1 00:00:13,010 --> 00:00:19,950 Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Alameda Kelly Fairgrounds and the Alameda Kelly Fair ad hoc committee meeting. 2 00:00:20,570 --> 00:00:23,990 I'd like to start this morning with a question of allegiance, so I've other than advice. 3 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:28,390 Rose, would you read this? 4 00:00:28,610 --> 00:00:29,130 My pleasure. 5 00:00:29,650 --> 00:00:29,690 Congratulations. 6 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:31,250 Congratulations. 7 00:00:33,370 --> 00:00:33,890 Congratulations. 8 00:00:35,290 --> 00:00:35,570 Congratulations. 9 00:00:41,990 --> 00:00:42,510 So 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,680 we will be taking public comments, I guess at the first of the meeting, if there are 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,880 our hearing, there are lots, it's like you broke off. 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,940 You don't do the broke off. 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,100 You don't do the broke off. 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,260 You don't do the broke off. 15 00:00:57,940 --> 00:00:58,840 Supervisor Miley. 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Supervisor Halbert. 17 00:01:02,220 --> 00:01:05,560 Susan and AC excuse, Drunk Holden. 18 00:01:06,380 --> 00:01:07,780 Rose Johnson here. 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,580 Chuck Moore, excuse, John Smith. 20 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:11,240 Here. 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,340 Gordon Galvin. 22 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:17,100 Excuse, Bill Harrison. 23 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:20,500 We have more. 24 00:01:20,780 --> 00:01:21,280 We have more. 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,960 We have more than the word. 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,860 Thank you very much. 27 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:28,420 So if there is anyone that likes would like to make comments before we get started into 28 00:01:28,420 --> 00:01:30,880 the agenda, please let us know. 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:39,250 three minutes for anyone. Anyone on the one with comments? I have no one long speakers. 30 00:01:40,010 --> 00:01:41,450 Okay. Oh, yes, I do. I'm sorry. 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:43,980 Any? 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Oh, hello. Can you hear me? Yes. 33 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:51,860 Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. 34 00:01:51,860 --> 00:01:58,820 Hi. Yes. I am with the creamers that I already counted as 4-8. 35 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:08,260 And I am going to ask, I'm here to speak to the exhibitors this year, you can see the 36 00:02:08,260 --> 00:02:18,080 letter or email from us, the staff of the fair, so animals and child animals are there. 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:27,360 They've put following the chief of the fire department, as the president said, we were not allowed to be 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:34,960 do for our children whether, well they're exhibiting us a fair. We have a lot of families who are, 39 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,500 they don't have a lot of money and all their money goes and you can see their projects animals 40 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:47,180 up until the days that we off to them off. They'll be trying to facilitate feeding of the children 41 00:02:49,260 --> 00:03:05,380 We are a little too stern that the fair use the people in the livestock offshines as the ones to say we couldn't have fair and they use bodies mean the pieces of the fire department scheme. 42 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:12,640 We have a lot of families who can really afford to eat every meal at the fair. 43 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:19,680 We can do the service, we can afford to spend our money as a fair every day for every meal. 44 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:30,820 We would appreciate that we had a couple of people who are on the board to help us 45 00:03:30,820 --> 00:03:32,700 to be able to facilitate being our children, 46 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 brain, meal film, and so that's a hobby for instruments, 47 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:39,960 instrumentals, and coming up with another hand 48 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,380 from it, we could still be feeding it because, um, 49 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:51,840 notice that on a season, the activity of staff is a little bit rude, 50 00:03:53,180 --> 00:03:57,100 with people when we went to try to ask them what we're going on, 51 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:00,240 We can now, if you do, I think, feeding the children. 52 00:04:02,540 --> 00:04:04,920 Maybe we wouldn't really appreciate it. 53 00:04:05,060 --> 00:04:09,100 There was some kind of an investigation on, 54 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:11,280 you guys could like look into the matter. 55 00:04:18,660 --> 00:04:20,240 That's not what it has to say. 56 00:04:20,340 --> 00:04:21,240 There's a little bit of comments. 57 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,900 Yep, ma'am. 58 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,040 Thank you. 59 00:04:27,870 --> 00:04:31,570 That's the district hers and it's participating as a member of the committee in this meeting. 60 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:36,590 So we had some conversation about that before we got started. 61 00:04:38,190 --> 00:04:41,570 What is the understanding that he has to be? 62 00:04:42,590 --> 00:04:43,390 It's on the agenda. 63 00:04:43,630 --> 00:04:45,310 It's number item one on the agenda. 64 00:04:45,770 --> 00:04:46,810 He's going on this question. 65 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:48,350 Is this remote participation? 66 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:50,890 Is that acceptable? 67 00:04:51,490 --> 00:04:51,770 We're not. 68 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:56,190 He can listen in if he's not participating. 69 00:04:57,010 --> 00:04:58,890 Alternatively, he could. 70 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:15,040 Well, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let me get to that. Okay, I can't, I will deal with it in number one if that's all right, everybody. 71 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:25,040 I do want to acknowledge he's in the room. We have Jerome as the CEO of the Kelly Fair. 72 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,480 We have Rose Johnson, the Vice Chair of the Association, myself as a President. 73 00:05:30,660 --> 00:05:35,120 We do have board members in the room, Allen Aldrich, who is chair of horse racing, 74 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,980 who have John S. Hoffman and Ryan Milson, also here. 75 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:46,440 We have Steve Sir, our counsel, and then Angel Moore, the C-O-O, I think we was going to 76 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,200 be participating as well, as well as Vivian with our chief financial officer. 77 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:57,020 So I think that's everybody that's here from the Alameda Kelly agriculture fair association. 78 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,820 From our side, you have the Supervisor Miley myself. 79 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:03,400 Members of the Board. 80 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:08,420 You have, while Susan Mernichy isn't here. 81 00:06:10,060 --> 00:06:13,000 We have Lori Cox. 82 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,840 I know not participating and we have a clerk. 83 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:18,080 And we have a legal counsel. 84 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:21,380 Thank you. 85 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:21,680 All right. 86 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:26,320 So, with that, let's move to the first item on the agenda of the change in the committee members. 87 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:33,940 We have Frank M. Hof, who was no longer on the award. 88 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,920 And so, we replaced him with Bill Harrison, who is the chair at the Finance Committee. 89 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:44,000 So, what do we need Bill to do to participate in the meeting? 90 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,100 So two issues, one is that I get asked to put this item on the agenda, just so we haven't 91 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:55,240 covered record when the changes in the cooperation with the committee, because we haven't 92 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,040 been doing that. 93 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,920 I notice that this printed agenda doesn't have the island agenda list, the members, it's been 94 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,380 changing over time, and it's just, you know, okay, and we haven't been doing that yet, 95 00:07:07,380 --> 00:07:10,620 I think that's been the right image, I think. 96 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,960 Separately, to participate, we're about to, 97 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:21,360 remotely, requires to qualify for just cause 98 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,340 into the Brown Act, if he doesn't, he can listen into the 99 00:07:24,340 --> 00:07:25,880 meeting, that's fine, he's just couldn't participate. 100 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:29,060 Do you explain just cause and would you explain the Andrew? 101 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:36,440 The typical solution for a member to participate remotely, 102 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,440 It's dissipated in advance and understood to be done. 103 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:42,640 So would you explain that separately? 104 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Would you explain the exception to that, which you call just 105 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,940 cause that's kind of inside all code for things that we 106 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:56,220 understand, but maybe not everybody does. 107 00:07:56,580 --> 00:08:00,700 What that is, which is an alternative to the established 108 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:02,720 procedures for participating remotely. 109 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:12,300 Yes, so members of the committee can participate remotely if that is listed on the agenda 110 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:19,120 and the location from which they are participating and be identified on the agenda 111 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:27,220 and that location is open to the public as well so that the public can participate from that info location as well. 112 00:08:27,220 --> 00:08:28,120 Alternatively, 113 00:08:30,340 --> 00:08:33,400 if they, if the member qualifies for just 114 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,260 causing the Brown Act, they can appear telephonically 115 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:42,720 or a Zoom without having that location identified 116 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,280 or open to the public, their limited number of times 117 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,760 that can be done. 118 00:08:49,740 --> 00:08:52,620 And it also has to be substantive requirements. 119 00:08:52,620 --> 00:08:59,320 either it's at Childcare or caregiving for child parent, grandparents, grandchildren, or 120 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:59,480 children. 121 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:07,320 If they have contagious illness, it's a need for ways to physical or bad condition, that 122 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,460 isn't qualifying for the USDA accommodation. 123 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:19,020 The traveling on official business of the Legislative Body or another state or local agency, 124 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:25,300 They have a immunocompromised, child-parent-parent-parent-parent-parent-parent-parent-child-sit-ling-spousin-musty-partner. 125 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:31,060 There's a physical or family of medical emergency, a more military service. 126 00:09:31,820 --> 00:09:39,280 So I don't know if this person has any of those issues that prevent him from appearing in the day. 127 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:45,880 If so, the state of generality does not need to disclose any medical circumstances for himself or anyone else. 128 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,740 just to say generally that if that is the issue, that that is the issue and if he doesn't 129 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:55,640 qualify any of those he's probably the least in the number disabled. 130 00:09:56,780 --> 00:09:57,300 Thank you. 131 00:09:57,380 --> 00:09:58,560 So Bill, can you hear us? 132 00:09:58,900 --> 00:09:59,660 Yeah, I can. 133 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,260 I don't have a doctor's note, I'm recently home from over a week's day in the hospital, and I'm on IVN of 134 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:08,820 Iodic for the next month. 135 00:10:09,340 --> 00:10:12,940 I don't know if that qualifies or not, but that's no fix. 136 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,160 If that prevents your dissipation physically today, then it will. 137 00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:19,440 Okay. 138 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,220 Then yeah. 139 00:10:22,020 --> 00:10:23,080 Welcome to the meeting. 140 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Thank you. 141 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:24,020 Thank you. 142 00:10:25,420 --> 00:10:31,300 What? Good. I've got that one. Thank you, Sarah. What's we want to? Why don't you, the fair repap, 143 00:10:31,540 --> 00:10:34,980 which is intellectual, and you feel like we're going to take this to this? 144 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:37,340 Yes, we have. 145 00:10:38,780 --> 00:10:40,960 Yes, please. 146 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,340 Thank you. 147 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:54,660 So we put together every year, post fair, a video of the highlights of fair, and then we will run the 148 00:10:54,660 --> 00:11:01,140 some of the fair numbers and some of the community events that we put together so the 149 00:11:01,140 --> 00:11:05,420 link you go to the next one. 150 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,170 Okay. I'm not really good. Of course, cup to right by there. 151 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,780 I'm not going to take us to our fair video. 152 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:13,780 I'd like to bring it in the next month or two. Okay. And then have the board approve that. And we can then refine the projection and know more clearly what we need to reserve. 153 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:25,360 And then I know that there was a surprise across and had a question. I'm not sure if this is this question but about the income level. 154 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,940 So 80% is about 75,000 for a family of four, right, 155 00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:31,500 from the chart. 156 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,560 You gave us before. 157 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,540 Yeah, that sounds right. 158 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:35,420 Yeah, and for one, it's 52. 159 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,320 How do you think this program is really going to go? 160 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:44,580 Because if you're below that level, would you 161 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,860 would a bank allow someone to buy a property? 162 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,080 I'm just wondering how you think it's really going to go 163 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:51,640 in real life? 164 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:54,920 Well, in this program, it will depend 165 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:00,900 on the projects that get selected and what kinds of financing the developers bring. 166 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,980 If, for example, Habitat for Humanity is selected as one of the developers, they often 167 00:16:07,980 --> 00:16:16,760 usually bring their own financing and can target even lower than 80 percent. Other low-income 168 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:23,220 homeowner development developers may not have that kind of financing in which case you would need 169 00:16:23,220 --> 00:16:30,280 bring, we would need to either, we would need to either more deeply subsidize and leave A1 funds 170 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:41,380 a larger amount in or go closer to the 80% cap. So it will depend on each one but in this program, 171 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,060 given that it's development and we have A1 funds that can stay in to make the unit affordable 172 00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:55,800 at that level. We believe 80% is feasible. But you believe people under 80, depending on who the 173 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,400 developer is, could qualify for this program. I don't think this is a program for people at 174 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:07,400 20% of a area meeting income. Have a chat historically and we're not saying that they would be 175 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:13,040 selected, they'll be a competitive process. But as an example, they have sometimes reached 50% 176 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:24,360 below. So we do think that 80% is reasonable target below 80% in below. And typically, and 177 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:30,420 I think we describe this, we're not, we're looking for the people that kind of forward 178 00:17:30,420 --> 00:17:36,700 the unit if there needs to be a regular first mortgage that they can qualify for some amount 179 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:42,640 there. So it's usually not right at the 80% which we would target the prices to 180 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,300 below 80%, so that there's some cushion in there. 181 00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:52,440 So you foresee these as being mainly like condo type things. 182 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:56,280 Not necessarily, it could be, 183 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,540 but they could also be new construction 184 00:17:59,540 --> 00:18:01,100 that brings other financing. 185 00:18:01,780 --> 00:18:04,400 And there are examples in several cities of the county 186 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,060 where they've done home ownership development 187 00:18:07,060 --> 00:18:12,620 that are usually either single or duplex type development 188 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Okay. All right. 189 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:26,620 I think those were those questions. So you can continue. Okay. So we had some speakers. I guess people wanted to do it by a number of years. So I meant. 190 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:40,940 Okay. So on this first thing, we had no well, 191 00:18:40,940 --> 00:18:45,600 Kyle, Council Member, Chris Ecclesias, and Gloria Bruce. 192 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:49,360 Thank you, Supervisor, President Chan. 193 00:18:49,660 --> 00:18:52,420 I thank you for the opportunity and to the staff and to the public. 194 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,860 Let me first express my gratification to the voters in Oakland and the county. 195 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:01,760 And throughout the state in terms of supporting bonds like this one to take care of our 196 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,800 our needy that currently being challenged when it comes to housing. 197 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,040 you understand very clearly that housing and every governmental body where you're at a school 198 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,840 district, you're in city government or at the county or at the state level, housing is a 199 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,420 priority and certainly recognizing the seniors that are currently on the streets of Oakland, 200 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,400 homelessness, and certainly those youngsters that have all their degrees are working, but yet 201 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,700 are being challenged to find a place to live. And that includes my three daughters and son. 202 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:37,580 So, I am here today to support the Unity Council and their efforts. 203 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,200 The fruitville Transit Village has been a development project for many years. 204 00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:47,460 So, we've been looking to develop those public lands that are owned by the city in Bart 205 00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:54,420 to make sure that their public lands and I strongly believe public lands should be used 206 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:57,360 to support the public good when it comes to housing. 207 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,000 So, we're in the process now, the Bart... 208 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:07,580 And the city of Oakland have approved, as well as is very clear that we need to create affordable housing. 209 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:18,720 And certainly we have on on the application over 300 units, there will be developed with your support at the county level, city support and certainly the state. 210 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:28,120 So we ask for your support for the project that the approval of transit village be interacted by the energy council. Thank you very much. Thank 211 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:37,900 you. 212 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:52,860 Good morning, President Chan, as you've advised of Carson, my name is Christy Gillesius, I'm the CEO of the Unity Council, and on behalf of our development team at the Unity Council and Ebalcy, I just want to really, first of all, thank the county for your support. 213 00:20:52,980 --> 00:21:03,460 I want to thank Council member Gio for being here and supporting this project and kind of where we're at in the project because we're at a really, really crucial point of the project. 214 00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:13,400 I want to thank Linda and Michelle from your team and all their efforts, especially early this year, when they helped us fill our financing gap for the project. 215 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:28,960 That was very exciting. It put us in a position to really kind of get all the financing together for the project, but I think right now as you know, we're at a very, very crucial time to close this deal, hopefully by the end of next week. 216 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:36,540 And so we can start a construction in November but it's going to require a lot of people to kind of get out of the comfort zone. 217 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,980 I know we've been out of our comfort zone for a while and we just want to share that. 218 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:40,580 You guys. 219 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:50,220 So, you know, I think as a last ditch effort, we were hoping that maybe you would consider a calendaring something next week on the 10th. 220 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:56,340 That would, you know, we could work out the details as far as what that's going to look like as 221 00:21:56,340 --> 00:22:01,580 getting us the proper information that we need to kind of satisfy all of our banks on the project 222 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:08,300 to close the deal, but if we could get something on the agenda and as the whole, I think 223 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:13,480 the October 10th agenda, what we could maybe finalize some of the details that would be something 224 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,060 that we would request. So thank you for your support and hopefully we'll get this wrap that 225 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:30,820 So, Linda from, from your point of view and the, um, the auditors, what's the status of that particular project? You said you're working on the remaining four. 226 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:40,060 So, um, I know that the treasurer met with a policy in the Unity Council last week. I was not able to attend that. 227 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:42,760 Andrea, can you remind me where you're there? 228 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:51,080 And they came up with some ideas that the treasurer and I are scheduled to talk this week 229 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,540 as soon as possible, but not scheduled yet. 230 00:22:54,540 --> 00:23:01,340 And I know that the letter that was developed for other projects from the county administrator 231 00:23:01,340 --> 00:23:04,060 and the auditor controller that went to... 232 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:07,060 I can't remember who signed it. 233 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,700 There was a draft of that letter that that 234 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:15,440 Ebalcy was presenting to the lenders to see if it would help. 235 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,320 I have not heard anything back from Ebalcy on whether or not that 236 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,620 satisfied the lenders. 237 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,840 So we are working as fast as we can on that, 238 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,980 but I don't know that we will make the 10th. 239 00:23:29,460 --> 00:23:32,940 So we have not solved it, although unless 240 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:44,940 The letter that was comfortable for the county administrator to issue previously is sufficient for their lenders, and I've not heard back from a ballsy on that. 241 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,440 Okay, so Chris, what is the deadline for this? 242 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,240 We're trying to have everything kind of wrapped up by the 13th, October 13th. 243 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:05,440 So I think, you know, we are attending, I would say somewhat positive response from the banks 244 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,540 on some of the options that we're discussing with the county that have been presented. 245 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:15,400 And I also want to thank the Treasurer, Hank Levy, and his team and Susan's team 246 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,280 for meeting with us last Thursday. I think we made a lot of progress at that meeting. 247 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,860 So we definitely feel the commitment and the ideas that are flowing back and forth right now. 248 00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:32,060 But I think if we did need to come back to the board, I think it would be best to at least hold 249 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:37,880 an item for the tenth. So in case there is some kind of resolution by then. 250 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:44,960 Okay, well they're going to, we'll keep working on it. We discussed it at the retreat last Tuesday. 251 00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:47,420 So we're aware that there's an issue here. 252 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:53,360 Sorry, did you want to speak now or later? 253 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:55,300 You're later. 254 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,560 All right. 255 00:24:57,940 --> 00:24:59,600 Pastor Jennings, did you want to speak on this? 256 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:17,300 Good morning, thank you so much supervisor and to the staff. I want to revisit the question that you raised supervisor relative to the 75% relative to the AMI. 257 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:29,820 I think that all those staff has indicated that they believe that 80% of AMI will suffice. I'm just trying to draw some numbers together real quickly. I come from a mortgage background. 258 00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:39,820 And so relative to this to $75,000 that will typically buy an individual if they have no other bills. 259 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:46,000 No other bills that will buy them about $500,000 worth of house. 260 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,920 I'm sorry, $350,000 worth of house. 261 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:57,880 And so if the average construction cost per unit right now is between 450 and 500,000, 262 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,000 therein lies the gap in how much of a subsidy would have to be taken. 263 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:09,540 So I believe that the amount should be about 120% of AMI, 264 00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:13,380 which would then not really deplete all of those funds 265 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:17,000 and so that they're continuing to be some funds available for future buyers. 266 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:27,860 Didn't we have language in either in the resolution or in the bond itself in terms of what the upper 267 00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:38,300 that in June 2016, the income limit for this program was 80% of AMI, and the income limit for the down payment assistance loan program, 268 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:52,220 which is intended to be used primarily in the market, was 150% with an initial target of 120% but an allowance to go up to 150% of area meeting again. 269 00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:56,040 Okay, in terms of the comment that was just made, 270 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:05,800 in terms of the affordability of a certain kind of unit, you were saying it depends on the developer and the amount of subsidy, right? 271 00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:15,900 And then it will also depend on what the household that will be buying it bring, but the simple framework of it is we'll pay for the development costs. 272 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:27,900 And then leave the amount of measure A1 that's needed to make the unit affordable in on the property as a silent second long. 273 00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:31,140 All right. 274 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Do you want to repeat the thing about the 10% because I know supervisor Carlson had questions. 275 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:44,720 So the 10% that proposed 10% for bond issuance and program delivery is intended as an initial cap for planning purposes. 276 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:52,820 And then the goal will be to bring back to your board the detail on what we actually are projecting, 277 00:27:53,380 --> 00:28:01,400 which as I said, CDA, I've been saying all along that my estimates for HDD and CDA are around 7%. 278 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:10,720 And so that 10% is a safe harbor for an initial, because they're also our bond issuance costs and other county departments. 279 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,120 the example I gave was County Council, where we are still working on the projections for that 280 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:23,320 with our other team members. So the intention is to bring back the detail on that to your board 281 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:30,100 as we've been talking about doing with the addition of the issuance and the other county costs. 282 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:37,200 I believe that will be less than 10%. And at that time, as the draft proposed policies say, 283 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:44,040 We would then release any amount that was not projected to be needed back into the program pool. 284 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:51,390 So I apologize because I try to catch up with today's meeting at the moment. 285 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:58,910 So the 10% administrative costs is not 10% over the entire amount of the bot. 286 00:28:59,090 --> 00:28:59,990 It's per project. 287 00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:06,050 This policy would take the amount that was set aside for this program. 288 00:29:06,050 --> 00:29:08,210 And set. When you say this program. 289 00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:09,390 The housing development. 290 00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:12,450 Okay, so let's put a dollar amount to that. 291 00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,230 That's roughly how much. 292 00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:15,310 How much is a month? 293 00:29:15,610 --> 00:29:18,030 So for the home ownership development program 294 00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:21,850 that would be 25 million and 10% of that would be 25 million. 295 00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:22,790 $2,500,000. 296 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:26,250 And then that's, and it's only restricted to that amount 297 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:28,710 or what about the other $580 million. 298 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:29,950 Each program. 299 00:29:30,390 --> 00:29:34,330 We have the same proposed policy for the rental pools. 300 00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:44,330 We've not come back with any policies on the other programs yet, so we would be looking at that for those when we'd come back. 301 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:53,130 Because I mean, just like the simple math on the 25 million is 2,500,000, the simple math would be 58 million dollars. 302 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:59,950 And so what's the accounting for each of those, since you're talking about projects? 303 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,960 By the project, or segment, what's the oversight in the accounting for that, so that we get an accounting. 304 00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:15,980 And does that include what would be all of the other, I don't want to say,cillary costs because they're costs of doing business. 305 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:24,140 But in terms of does that include project labor agreement costs and all of the other things that's factored in? 306 00:30:24,540 --> 00:30:26,100 I mean, I'm trying to... 307 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,260 It would not include costs of the developers. 308 00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:33,640 It would include costs of the county and the bond issuance. 309 00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:39,180 And the 10% is, I believe, higher than the actual numbers will be. 310 00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:48,200 So it's really as a cap that we will come back and give the board additional detail and more refined estimates. 311 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,700 So if it turns out that it's 8% for example, 312 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:57,760 we would return to percent to the pool to subsidize the housing. 313 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,620 Okay, so I would again go back because it's just complicated and you understand it. 314 00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:05,680 I don't. 315 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:07,980 Bonnie, she went says it's going to probably be a total of what? 316 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:13,760 As we exhaust the body, she went 580 million dollars in total. 317 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,460 The total bond is going on. 318 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:15,760 Correct. 319 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,700 That's definitely our target. 320 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:30,920 Right, and so you're saying that the simple math, which would have been 58 million, is probably not going to be a part of the administrative outcome. 321 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:45,680 I'm saying that I think 10% for the home ownership development program, and we've proposed a similar initial 10% for the rental, is most likely higher than what the actual costs will be. 322 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,040 and we want, we need to bring to your board more detail on the estimate. 323 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,100 We need additional information from other county partners and from the bond team on the issuance 324 00:31:56,100 --> 00:32:02,700 costs. But because we're bringing this to you today and we are hoping to move forward, 325 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:09,680 I wanted to put a safe harbor number in there so that we could, for planning purposes and so 326 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,300 that as we move forward in the next couple months, we can come back to the board with the 327 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:19,080 and come up with a final number. 328 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,640 So, and I don't want to take a lot of time on this because, again, since it's still complicated, 329 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,560 and I know that we're getting, well, anyway. 330 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:39,600 So, what was included in the discussion when the bond was initially discussed and approved 331 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,580 in terms of administrative costs? Was it 10% or what? 332 00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:49,340 There was not a percentage in the program that you're board adopted in conversation. 333 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,980 We were talking about 7% or less for the Community Development Agency. 334 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,840 And I believe that is still what we will come under. 335 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,240 So that was that's what was originally initially discussed was a 7% and approved. 336 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,260 No, it wasn't approved. 337 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,200 No, those were estimates that I presented as we were moving forward. 338 00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:22,840 But it did not include any other county costs or cost of issuance, which is why I'm proposing this initial cap lead 10%. 339 00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:34,980 Okay, so do you see this being kind of like administrative costs by year or by program or type of staffing or? 340 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:41,800 So we have for CDA we have some detailed projections of year by year. 341 00:33:42,580 --> 00:33:51,220 And I am working on the way to present those to the board for discussion, but I have not been able to finalize those to bring those to you. 342 00:33:52,400 --> 00:34:01,620 The cost of program delivery would be reported annually as part of the cost of the program and to the oversight committee and to the board. 343 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:09,960 So the actual cost you're by year will be tracked by program area, the Outed or Controlors already set up 344 00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:22,480 Program by program accounts and they would and we have time sheet codes by program area in CDA and then we would report on those annually 345 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,380 Against the more detailed projections that will be bringing to your board. Okay 346 00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:30,440 How much has already been allocated 347 00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:40,540 There's an amount that was the actual amount from last fiscal year, which was about 165, 348 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,660 something like that for CDA. 349 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,880 And then that's all that's been sort of... 350 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,020 So 165 million of the 580 million already? 351 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,440 Oh, you mean of the projects? 352 00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:53,300 Yes. 353 00:34:53,340 --> 00:34:59,280 25 million or less in this base city rental has been already committed by the board. 354 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,000 and next one. 355 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,780 Some of the notes we saved to them, we had almost a thousand notes left. It was just a beautiful display. 356 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:19,520 And then finally, our economic impact and fiscal impact to the community. They are a part of everyone's package, but it's also up on display. 357 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:30,080 So year-round, so fair and year-round, sales tax revenues generated by the venue $14.3 million. 358 00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:41,000 On hotel tax revenue, 186 million, our fiscal impact is 14.5, ongoing jobs in the community is nearly 2,000. 359 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:49,540 hotel overnight generated is near 17,000 and total visits to the property is about 360 00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:56,900 111.44 million. This is not include off track bedding or the golf course. 361 00:35:59,810 --> 00:35:59,810 So, 362 00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:04,470 just wanted to share the economic impact with the Alameda County Fair and the events 363 00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:08,970 are annually housed to the region. Any questions? 364 00:36:10,770 --> 00:36:11,610 Yeah. Right. 365 00:36:12,010 --> 00:36:20,310 Yeah. Very comprehensive and excellent overview of presentation, very, very thorough. 366 00:36:21,870 --> 00:36:26,610 As well as the seniors, I can help you get those numbers up with the seniors. 367 00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:27,050 Great. 368 00:36:27,050 --> 00:36:45,170 So folks, you're welcoming, you know, next the latest month will be holding the 23rd annual healthy living festival, and we have about over 3,000 seniors that come in from all over the county, to the open zoo, you know, all of the county costs us $50,000 of bus seniors in. 369 00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:53,030 So I think that would be a good opportunity for the fair to promote, because I didn't even know about your free tickets for seniors, and I think that would be great. 370 00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:58,110 So we're sorry to my wife, but we should talk about that. 371 00:36:58,130 --> 00:37:01,170 And if you are interested in getting this issue, 372 00:37:01,810 --> 00:37:05,130 we're up to about 90, 90, 90, 90, but I'm going to try 373 00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:05,930 to squeeze it there. 374 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:14,550 And then the rating is the rating on a scale of 1 to 10? 375 00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:15,650 Yeah. 376 00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:17,090 I think it's 1 to 9. 377 00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:18,470 I think it's 1 to 9. 378 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:18,630 I think it's 1 to 9. 379 00:37:19,090 --> 00:37:21,230 So you're about 8.1? 380 00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:26,250 It was eight points that all confirmed that night that I believe it's a one to nine scale in the event 381 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:33,890 There's not much more than the go in terms of getting that 382 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:38,450 What would that be because that's what I mean? 383 00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:40,710 To get to the nine 384 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:45,690 What do you need to do to get to because you guys are doing an excellent job a phenomenal job 385 00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:50,170 And you know, I take my head off you and what would it take to deny? 386 00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:58,150 So there's several categories, let me take a look at those categories, and I'll get back to you. 387 00:37:58,450 --> 00:38:01,090 When I get back to you about the seniors, I'll get back to you about the categories. 388 00:38:02,890 --> 00:38:12,150 And the only other two things, and these are just such things for me, I'd like the association to consider something for Scott. 389 00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:16,250 The commemoration for Scott out here comes, you know, the fair bit of life you did. 390 00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:19,750 And so I think there's something in the works on that. 391 00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:19,990 Okay. 392 00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:21,210 Go here at the fair bit. 393 00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:21,930 Supervisor. 394 00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:22,890 Yeah. 395 00:38:23,490 --> 00:38:26,630 The auction of Villian. 396 00:38:26,850 --> 00:38:27,150 Okay. 397 00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:28,590 We'll be renamed for Scott. 398 00:38:28,830 --> 00:38:29,570 And the Amagor. 399 00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:29,870 Yeah. 400 00:38:30,330 --> 00:38:32,290 The Scott had the Amagor for that. 401 00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:32,770 Great. 402 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:37,090 And then the only other thing is, I just noticed you had to flex. 403 00:38:37,330 --> 00:38:37,970 You're going to get a kettle. 404 00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:39,690 That would be a good one. 405 00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:40,590 Back up in your tooth. 406 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:41,590 I mean okay. 407 00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:44,570 I mean that I've never noticed that. 408 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:48,170 Now, if you can do that for a sec, how do we do that? 409 00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:49,830 So thank you. 410 00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:58,330 My curious, prior to the fair, March April, marketing sends out to all of the supervisors 411 00:38:58,330 --> 00:39:03,350 and a lot of different organizations kind of what's coming up with the fair. 412 00:39:03,350 --> 00:39:11,290 hopefully you can incorporate that. I know Supervisor Halbert has in the newsletter. I don't know if you do that or not. 413 00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:20,170 Yeah, so I think that's an excellent opportunity to mine some of those other groups when there may be seniors or you do some of the other things. 414 00:39:20,770 --> 00:39:22,410 Okay. Thank you for the information. 415 00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:24,110 How are you doing, sir? 416 00:39:25,090 --> 00:39:25,470 Hi. 417 00:39:27,870 --> 00:39:29,270 Is that everything for me? 418 00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:39,870 So, I usually would ask questions after, is there a public comment on each item? 419 00:39:40,450 --> 00:39:40,550 Sure. 420 00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:45,030 I like that there's any presentation, though. 421 00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:47,310 Oh, this is still the fair recap. 422 00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:48,350 Okay. 423 00:39:50,970 --> 00:39:52,450 Then I may have questions after that. 424 00:39:52,510 --> 00:39:52,770 It's finished. 425 00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:57,150 Good morning, everybody. 426 00:39:57,150 --> 00:39:59,690 on this morning. 427 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,920 We'll look at fair financials, we'll look at fair revenue by category fair net income, but before that let's 428 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,920 look at the Pharisees and all hires and modern care hours. 429 00:40:15,610 --> 00:40:16,610 I think I do. 430 00:40:17,170 --> 00:40:17,670 I don't see. 431 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,400 Sorry. 432 00:40:21,780 --> 00:40:22,560 Close eyes. 433 00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:34,460 They're being let her. 434 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,740 She's working on it. 435 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,680 Oh, okay. 436 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,140 You guys are fighting. 437 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:38,080 Okay. 438 00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:42,430 If you can push your buttons. 439 00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:48,690 I think we can do that. 440 00:40:48,830 --> 00:40:49,330 I think we can do that. 441 00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:13,210 Fortunately, I only had four slides. 442 00:41:13,810 --> 00:41:15,230 Not hearing us. 443 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:17,110 No. 444 00:41:17,570 --> 00:41:17,770 Not good. 445 00:41:18,190 --> 00:41:18,550 Yeah. 446 00:41:19,770 --> 00:41:20,530 We're almost there. 447 00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:23,330 Now your, you need to go backwards. 448 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600 I don't know if there's a line for that. 449 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,080 Thanks so much. 450 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:30,960 Okay. 451 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,900 So these are the seasonal recruiting and volunteer hours. 452 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,020 Fair applicants this year, 2026, we see 1,300, 509. 453 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,220 This is 226 applicants more than last year. 454 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,180 And out of that one, 359. 455 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:55,660 Fairtime seasonal hires is 321 that's about 26-27% and 456 00:41:55,660 --> 00:42:04,240 Rehires people like the so much rehires is 43% of the total seasonal hires, which is a 138 457 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:07,920 Rehires volunteer hours volunteer 458 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,200 We have 459 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,460 735 volunteers this year last year 460 00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:18,900 So we actually had 137 less volunteers this year than last year. 461 00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:26,900 It's one of our 666,612 volunteer hours that's 1094 less over here. 462 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:36,620 Then last year, charitable donations about 39,000 versus 42,000 last year. 463 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:45,080 So you can see because of the economic trend and pressure, it pushes the workforce from unpaid volunteer to pay. 464 00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:46,840 Any questions on this slide? 465 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,600 The Chief Secretary of the Communications, the Secretary of the Commission, to the fair. 466 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,380 To the nonprofit who send their volunteers. 467 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:02,440 Yeah, there's about 45 nonprofits that we pay, total about 39,000. 468 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,220 So there are a lot of people. 469 00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:07,240 We paid with a lot of credit. 470 00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:10,420 They'd buy some people in the booths. 471 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,120 I don't know. 472 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,820 Compense like that, based on it. 473 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,280 It's almost 40 million. 474 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,880 But there's nine thousand. 475 00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:18,240 Yeah, the last year was 42 million. 476 00:43:18,380 --> 00:43:20,700 So they're not volunteers, but we paid that. 477 00:43:21,220 --> 00:43:21,260 They'd volunteer. 478 00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:22,360 They paid their organization. 479 00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:23,360 They paid your organization. 480 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,560 Some of the volunteers open heart kitchen, 481 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,260 Rice and Shine Youth Leadership and Boys Team Cherry. 482 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,620 There's about 45 of them. 483 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:36,160 To make a donation look up. 484 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,500 Okay, next slide. 485 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,480 So these are pair revenue by category. 486 00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:45,280 We're looking at three year time, 487 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,580 bring 20, 20, 6, 25, and 24. 488 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,950 May I remind you that 24 was the year that we had 489 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,900 their forced racing. 490 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,800 And we started with the 500, 491 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,760 and then every bar, it goes up that by $500,000, 492 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,500 all the way to $1.5 million. 493 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:09,780 This year is in blue, last year, red, 2024, white. 494 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,300 This is admission, revenue, parking, revenue, 495 00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:20,720 concert, blue, and beverage, carnival, 496 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,660 sponsorship, and commercial vendors, and others. 497 00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:25,940 As you can see, most of these bars, 498 00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:30,060 We generate a higher revenue in each category, 499 00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:31,940 parking is about the same. 500 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,900 This year, last year, for a little bit higher, 501 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,780 but every other bars, 502 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,400 we generate a higher revenue than prior years. 503 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:43,180 With the exception of sponsorship 504 00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:44,780 and commercial vendors, 505 00:44:45,140 --> 00:44:48,380 I think, combined we mystify about 200,000. 506 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,860 And that's because of the direct direction 507 00:44:50,860 --> 00:44:52,940 of the retail trend from 508 00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:59,680 I'm going to, I'm all shopping mall, Fairbans versus Al-O-O-O. 509 00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:13,390 Every day, average people that I run into have an opportunity to benefit from this and I guess I'm missing that and I'm not being critical. I'm just missing that. 510 00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:26,090 Well, this particular home ownership program will allow people who live or work in our county who could otherwise absolutely not afford to buy a home in our county, buy a home. 511 00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:37,330 It will not solve the home ownership desires of very many households because 25 million is not a lot of money. 512 00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:44,190 But it will target people who live and work in our county already and assist them in buying homes. 513 00:45:44,650 --> 00:45:52,070 The down payment assistance loan program, which has some additional money, also will do that. 514 00:45:52,070 --> 00:45:55,550 but in the market and for a more moderate income level group. 515 00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:58,190 The rental housing, as we've said all along, 516 00:45:58,430 --> 00:46:01,770 this is big and bold and more money than we've had locally 517 00:46:01,770 --> 00:46:05,730 in a while, but it will not solve the affordable housing 518 00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:06,210 crisis. 519 00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:13,010 It will make inroads in local housing for an income level 520 00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:17,050 that otherwise is beginning to be unable 521 00:46:17,050 --> 00:46:18,950 to afford housing in our county. 522 00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:20,490 It rental or owner. 523 00:46:20,490 --> 00:46:39,830 But, and housing in the market is not built for the income levels we're talking about, so the bond will assist people to stay in our county who otherwise are very likely to be displaced, but it won't do that for every single household. It's not big enough. 524 00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:49,730 I wish that we could do it for more with the state money, maybe coming in in the next 525 00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:50,470 if it passed. 526 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:51,690 I'm sure it's going to pass. 527 00:46:52,650 --> 00:46:56,410 But I was kind of excited about the home ownership thing because you said it might go 528 00:46:56,410 --> 00:46:58,230 down to 50%. 529 00:46:58,230 --> 00:47:05,650 So if you have a family of four that is making $48,000, $49,000, they would never be able 530 00:47:05,650 --> 00:47:07,590 to buy a house in this area. 531 00:47:07,590 --> 00:47:16,710 But under this program with the loans, they would be able to do it, so I guess that's the value of it. 532 00:47:16,830 --> 00:47:19,590 I mean, unfortunately, it's not as many as we feel but they could. 533 00:47:20,210 --> 00:47:26,770 And we know people like that, like say you're a child care worker and a waiter or something, right? I don't know. 534 00:47:26,770 --> 00:47:49,870 And I think looking forward, if we can, as we implement this program, show the success, show the households being served and leveraging these monies locally with state and federal and continuing to encourage and advocate for more money at the state and federal level. Hopefully we can do more locally and continue to increase the supply. 535 00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:50,030 Okay, 536 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:58,760 so on this, on this issue of the particular project, should we hear the rental thing? 537 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,840 First, is that okay with, you guys? 538 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,040 Okay, go ahead. 539 00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:03,080 Okay, 540 00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:14,540 so this is 425 million, it's that 225 million is in the base city allocations and 200 million 541 00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:16,760 is in the four regional pools. 542 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:25,800 The framework is that your board adopted in June of 2016 has the income levels at most. 543 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,340 We think we'll be between 30 and 60% of area medium. 544 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:37,020 There is a minimum amount of the 20% of the units being affordable to 20% of area medium income 545 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:37,700 or below. 546 00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:42,720 And then the framework allows a portion of the units and in the proposed policies 547 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:50,780 we're proposing a definition of portion for up to 80% of area meeting income to promote mixing 548 00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:56,060 incomes and developments. There's a focus on leveraging so that this money goes as far 549 00:48:56,060 --> 00:49:02,280 as possible requires a city financial contribution which is also defined in the proposed policies 550 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:08,800 and minimum affordability term of 55 years and then I mentioned the distribution. Also the 551 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,520 framework has taught the name to target populations of homeless people, seniors, veterans, 552 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,360 people with disabilities of all types, the criminal justice, reentry population, transition 553 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:26,300 age youth, and lower income workforce, definite priority for people who live and work in 554 00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:32,620 our county, flexible uses of funds, both in terms of the stage of development and also how 555 00:49:32,620 --> 00:49:37,220 the funds could be used within the framework of what's eligible for general obligation bond 556 00:49:37,220 --> 00:49:45,100 and a reminder that that cannot be operating subsidies or services needs to be capital expenses. 557 00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:50,100 The goal of maximizing the leverage producing the largest number of units, 558 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,320 funding the minimum amounts needed in order to make the units feasible. 559 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,000 And your board adopted that wages would be set that are equivalent. 560 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,520 The state prevailing wage. 561 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:11,760 We've had an iterative broad process. I think you're aware of that process, so I won't spend a lot of time on that. 562 00:50:13,340 --> 00:50:21,940 The income levels, so now looking at the proposed implementation policies, which include the policies of the framework and then additional detail. 563 00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:40,280 The 20% is there as a minimum, the 30 to 60 and then we are proposing that up to 5% of each allocation which would mean each base city allocation and each regional pool could be used to support units up to 80% of area median income. 564 00:50:41,260 --> 00:50:48,360 The target populations are still in there and that we would track them review annually who's being served who's not being served. 565 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:55,220 and potentially bring recommendations for particular emphasis and different RFP processes. 566 00:50:55,900 --> 00:51:02,080 We've made it explicit in the proposed policies that measure A1 funds cannot permanently 567 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,160 displace households. 568 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:11,360 For example, if developers are proposing to acquire an existing apartment building, and 569 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,340 there are over-income people over-income in the sense that they don't qualify under one of 570 00:51:16,340 --> 00:51:24,100 measure A1 income targets that they would those households would be allowed to stay and the units 571 00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:30,280 would need to be dedicated to the income levels at turnover and then it also makes explicit 572 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:36,120 that if someone is temporarily displaced to in order to rehabilitate the unit or something 573 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,180 like that that they would get financial assistance that covers the cost of their temporary 574 00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:46,140 displacement and they have rights to first refusal to come back to the units. 575 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:54,380 The eligible uses remain flexible within the geobond. 576 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,820 We've increased in response to comment. 577 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:09,060 The proposed maximum A1 contributions per project per unit by 5% and put in language that would 578 00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:15,580 allow the board to approve a higher amount if needed for feasibility of a desirable project. 579 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:22,980 The city match policies proposed remain essentially the same as what was presented in July. 580 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:30,940 Having a minimum value that was equal to city imposed fees on development and a flexible, 581 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:37,120 having a flexible approach about what could count as match as long as it has a financially 582 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:45,380 determinable value and allows an initial administrative commitment at the time of 583 00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:50,220 application as long as there's a formal city commitment before the measure A1 584 00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:56,880 fund loaned close. And then we would incentivize additional leverage in 585 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:03,520 competitive processes. Additional changes or clarification since the July 586 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:12,240 version. This is a summary of them and I'll discuss them more on the coming slides, so I'll 587 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:18,320 just jump into the additional slides. In terms of fair housing and equal and open access 588 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:28,500 and priorities, the board, as I mentioned, we're working with County Council. We're proposing 589 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:35,220 that when the policies come to the board, we also bring a resolution that just solidifies the 590 00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:41,220 findings and the public purpose behind the name to target populations. It's just 591 00:53:41,220 --> 00:53:47,480 helps strengthen when we presented the program, the program parameters and framework 592 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:54,720 back in July of 2016 that contained a lot of that data. It's just cleaner to have a resolution 593 00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:01,220 that really spells out the needs, the priorities, and the public purpose served by those priority 594 00:54:01,220 --> 00:54:06,360 target populations. So we've included in your packet a draft resolution to do that. 595 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,020 Looking at the tools available to target the units to the priority populations, 596 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:20,300 we've listed a number of them, points in competitive selection processes, having regulatory 597 00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:28,300 agreements that name specific target populations that would be in the units looking at the marketing 598 00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:35,140 plans, which is a heavy emphasis. So we have a section that outlines at minimum some very 599 00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:42,580 extensive local marketing around the development, all the board offices, the 211, all of 600 00:54:42,580 --> 00:54:48,840 mailing list, like really emphasizing the live live and work local people in 601 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:54,120 Elameda County as well as reaching out to groups of faith-based and community-based 602 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:59,140 organizations that target the same or serve the same target populations to market 603 00:54:59,140 --> 00:54:59,740 those units. 604 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,340 This is the last slide I have any questions? 605 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:12,240 So, before getting a system, I just want to point out the employment situation that's affected by the fear. 606 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,340 We're approximately going to be around 28 million to 30 million dollars this year. 607 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,840 That's a pretty consistent number over the last four or five years. 608 00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:30,600 We have about 120 full-time employees during a four-week period of time. 609 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,220 That is increased by 321. 610 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:39,000 So we have 450 employees during that period with 750 volunteers. 611 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,320 Are we generate 14? 612 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,080 14? 613 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,900 A little less than half of our revenue during that four-week period of time. 614 00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:59,380 It's pretty amazing when you think of the number of people that are on here, during that period and the number of people that it takes to make that happen. 615 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:08,220 So it's a testament to our staff, it's a durability to continue to generate the kind of readiness that we did. 616 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,200 Thank you, John. 617 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,260 When did we start selling online? Was it 25 or this year, 26? 618 00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:16,020 No, November, right? 619 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,080 No, but which year? Was it this year the first year? 620 00:56:26,260 --> 00:56:34,340 I guess electronic tickets people will come in and use their phone and you would have electronic tickets that. 621 00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:39,200 I don't think we used our phone at that time but you could buy online and come to the game. 622 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:46,000 That's when we were with E-Tix and the first year I was with the fair in 2013 that was a capability. 623 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,420 Did we make some change then, maybe? Was it with the phone? 624 00:56:50,020 --> 00:56:51,540 It would not have been. 625 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,600 It seems to me that we had tickets that we would text back and forth in a year. 626 00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:00,820 Yeah, but how long have we been able to do that? 627 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,280 That's been any time you were with. 628 00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:04,840 Is that by our 2022? 629 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,440 That's when we were coming out of here. 630 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,020 We changed ticketing. 631 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,560 Is there any parking in you to buy it? 632 00:57:10,820 --> 00:57:12,180 I had a time. Yeah, touchless. 633 00:57:12,980 --> 00:57:14,660 When you went to cashless, it went to the hook. 634 00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:16,540 Thank you. 635 00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:16,820 Thank you. 636 00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:17,280 Thank you very much. 637 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:17,840 Thank you very much. 638 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,420 Thank you very much. 639 00:57:18,580 --> 00:57:19,000 Thank you very much. 640 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,600 Next we have to roll for the vision sign of thing. 641 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,140 Do we have any questions on this area? 642 00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:26,040 Public comment. 643 00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:27,480 Public comment. 644 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,120 I have a public comment. 645 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:28,640 If I might. 646 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,020 On the ticketing. 647 00:57:31,180 --> 00:57:34,660 I know John had discussed it in the firm previous meetings about ticketing. 648 00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:38,880 I just want to tell the supervisors about a little bit of research that I've done. 649 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,340 We are in the most expensive care in the state of California to attend. 650 00:57:43,340 --> 00:57:45,220 to take it right. 651 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,640 I like to go to other fairs and tendons and see what they're doing, so that just makes 652 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:58,340 the available applicants to raise our pricing with their economy and so they're on people who 653 00:57:58,340 --> 00:58:02,580 can figure out something new. I don't want to put this into another fair season. If our friend 654 00:58:02,580 --> 00:58:07,300 is still out to be my honest still hold for our prices are at just because they're just 655 00:58:10,540 --> 00:58:18,240 The parking, I think, is relative to most fairgrounds that take your pricing, we're the most expensive fairgrounds. 656 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,120 Would you send that to me offline? 657 00:58:21,020 --> 00:58:26,840 So I'd be interested what the cost of living is in those locations that you're comparing it to. 658 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,060 But I think, as we do have a cost of living in the trust city area that we don't take care of. 659 00:58:32,060 --> 00:58:36,200 But we have it to high-rise market, half out of the world. 660 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,220 We also have the best work. 661 00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:38,020 They're right in there. 662 00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:39,860 I don't want to remind the rest of those. 663 00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:44,040 I'm sure their cost of living is relatively about the same. 664 00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:46,300 Let's take off the living property. 665 00:58:47,260 --> 00:58:48,300 All that in the consideration. 666 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,280 How much cattle and gas are there? 667 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,400 Any on one comments? 668 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:54,780 Okay. 669 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,220 So we... 670 00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:56,700 Oh, I'm sorry. 671 00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:57,760 Yeah, it's a product report. 672 00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,860 One quick thing. 673 00:58:59,860 --> 00:59:19,440 I just want to point out, I'm sure to commend the fear too, with the FIFA, and watch parties because I don't think I really enjoyed power to the 30th of the Coliseum, and our staff could achieve that if you achieve that, so I didn't even know that I was taking place here. 674 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:20,720 So, yeah. 675 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:21,900 Very popular. 676 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,180 Here's like a break, watch the game. 677 00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:27,620 The other way back to the fair, didn't even know that. 678 00:59:27,620 --> 00:59:34,200 So that's why I think, I don't know what you're going to do with the consultation or whatever. 679 00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:38,540 But I mean, just let everybody see that as a market. 680 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,760 It was really great. 681 00:59:39,980 --> 00:59:43,040 Because there's a lot of information there. I just didn't know myself. 682 00:59:44,540 --> 00:59:45,040 Thank you. 683 00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:49,800 We can move on then to the item three vision plan progress on update. 684 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,080 I'll speak to some of our projects real fast. 685 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:59,900 Um, I think last time we met with right around the time we did the ribbon cutting for the foot saw. 686 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:12,020 Complex sets out by the All-Trac activity facility. It's getting good use now. Best time to see it is in the evenings around anywhere from 4 to 9 o'clock is when it gets pretty active with children. 687 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,860 So I think they're doing well. 688 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,460 Is that a rendering or a live photo? One on the left is a rendering. These are live photos. 689 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:32,230 this year in I think of April we get a ribbon cutting on our new West Plaza. We just 690 01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:38,070 called Plaza Now. This is what it looks like. This is the concrete patterning in the 691 01:00:38,070 --> 01:00:45,790 Plaza area. It was very well received by fair time by the fair yes. This is underneath the 692 01:00:45,790 --> 01:00:46,110 canopy. 693 01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:56,440 This is not that exciting but for staff it is. This is our new Power Terminal from 694 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,180 PG&E, this took about two and a half years to accomplish and replacing the one on the left. 695 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:07,180 This had to get done because we were underpowered at the farmhouse and so now this project 696 01:01:07,180 --> 01:01:12,060 is done or excited about it because it will allow further growth in other areas. 697 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:19,420 We're embarking right now on the OTV Facility Remodel, trying to utilize this building more 698 01:01:19,420 --> 01:01:25,180 effectively. It's still a very good money maker for us, the off-track vetting business. 699 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:32,540 But this building was built in the 80s. It's finally called the big pink building. 700 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:39,240 So we're embarking on a remodel trying to make it get more utility out of it. 701 01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:43,900 So we can still maintain our off-track vetting business in it. 702 01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:50,340 currently we still have Bingo two or three nights a week corporate events we do do some 703 01:01:50,340 --> 01:01:55,120 corporate events in there but really not enough to justify so we we believe once we've 704 01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:02,300 got it cleaned up in a better modernization of the look that we'll do more it'll be capable 705 01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:08,540 of doing more musical performances maybe comedians and other community meetings so we're excited 706 01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:15,180 about this. We're also embarking on more of a rebrand, Iron Horse 1858. This is kind of 707 01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:20,100 meaningful to us because 1858 is the first year the track was built by Bernal himself. 708 01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:26,040 And then Iron Horse is a nod to our Iron Horse trail in the railroad that came through this 709 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:31,740 area, the spur line that came down through Pleasanton. So we're going to kind of rebrand the building 710 01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:36,660 for, so that it's more attractive for more activity out there. 711 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,560 This is kind of the inside renderings that we're working through, 712 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,140 so you can see it's very loungy, and it's a nod to railroad and horse racing. 713 01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:56,950 This is the Grandstand Plaza, the roadway, and the wine garden project that we're working on right now. 714 01:02:57,150 --> 01:03:00,250 This giant white area is the Grandstand. 715 01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:04,410 This is where our existing Plaza with the fountain is. 716 01:03:04,410 --> 01:03:15,030 And so we have a project that's with the county now through permitting, it's in three phases, it's 1, 2, and 3, so this is the wine courtyard. 717 01:03:17,050 --> 01:03:23,290 Each year, for as fast as we can afford to do it, we will be tackling one of these phases. 718 01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:31,090 It's going to take care of ADA compliance, it's going to give a more pedestrian feel rather than feeling like you're out on an asphalt parking lot. 719 01:03:32,090 --> 01:03:34,290 This is the phase one right here. 720 01:03:34,510 --> 01:03:36,970 This is the fountain plaza down here, 721 01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:40,850 and this is out in front of the grandstand where 722 01:03:40,850 --> 01:03:42,970 sometimes during fair we put a stage right here. 723 01:03:43,450 --> 01:03:46,830 So we're tackling this shortly this year 724 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:48,790 in the 2026 budget. 725 01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:53,920 Again, this is a rendering. 726 01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:56,560 This is the area we're going to be working on 727 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,660 as well as this very large shape canopy 728 01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:02,340 that's going to run the length of the road. 729 01:04:02,340 --> 01:04:05,900 So that there's a lot more shade out there for the customer. 730 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:13,560 So when Nate enters through gate 12 and wants to drive through there. 731 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,140 Well, we'll be able to do it. 732 01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:18,980 I mean, there's still be the 20-foot road. 733 01:04:20,620 --> 01:04:22,100 And let me show you over you. 734 01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:25,140 But this still has to maintain all the fire access. 735 01:04:30,670 --> 01:04:32,970 Same photo just a different angle. 736 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:38,980 There's your roadway for name. 737 01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:41,240 All right. 738 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:49,400 We're also in discussions with a few different partners that are potential for pickleball complex. 739 01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:57,580 This has not gone anywhere with the board, but it is a discussion of utilizing this zone more effectively for the community. 740 01:04:58,620 --> 01:04:59,920 This little bit of a proposal. 741 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:09,040 Well, it's talking about 34 courts with the addition of a competitive court also for something like tournament 742 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:17,080 play and professional. So we think this has got some excitement around it because there is a commercial 743 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:25,000 kitchen in this building that can also help be utilized for this kind of activity. So I'm hoping in the next 744 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:30,880 year, so you'll be hearing more about this as we figure out how to move this through a process, 745 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:37,100 whatever GSA says is appropriate for the development and whether it makes sense economically. 746 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,000 And then this is our farm project that we've been working on diligently. 747 01:05:43,660 --> 01:05:45,180 Phase one is already complete. 748 01:05:45,580 --> 01:05:47,720 Is this safe way barn right here? 749 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,420 And now we are working on all of this garden space. 750 01:05:52,560 --> 01:06:00,400 The architecture and engineering is currently being done right now and is being funded by the fundraising of the foundation. 751 01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:06,360 The big part of this is locating all the utilities for future phases. 752 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,700 So for example, these three buildings right here and five buildings. 753 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:18,320 We've got to make sure before we build all this garden space and everything we do, that all the pipes are underground for the future phases. 754 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:34,180 The mess taken us a bit of time, it's also doing all the analysis for C3 storm water treatment in one phase, so we know what's going to happen in the future, and making sure everything that we do out there is ADA compliant. 755 01:06:36,890 --> 01:06:42,090 And then lastly, I said C3 storm water compliance, the property. 756 01:06:42,090 --> 01:06:47,490 As we do these projects, you have to now, the new rules for the waterboard are that you 757 01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:51,050 have to treat the water from each zone of your projects. 758 01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:56,710 Well, because some of our areas are for pedestrians and we can't have bios wells in the 759 01:06:56,710 --> 01:07:02,350 middle of it, we're working with the county right now to actually create to the south end 760 01:07:02,350 --> 01:07:07,510 of our RV campgram, a bio-retention planter down here 761 01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:13,070 that's going to accommodate 88,000 square feet 762 01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:14,510 of treatment for us. 763 01:07:14,830 --> 01:07:17,150 And by doing so, it's actually going to give us 764 01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:20,590 about 40,000 square foot credit for future projects. 765 01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:23,970 So we think this is a really economical way 766 01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:28,130 to build in the properties C3 requirements for the future. 767 01:07:29,590 --> 01:07:30,730 And that'll probably be on the budget. 768 01:07:30,730 --> 01:07:35,310 this project will be on the budget for 2027 as we move forward. 769 01:07:38,580 --> 01:07:43,400 Those are all the vision-playing projects I can add, answer any questions if you have some. 770 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,220 So our vision right now, too. 771 01:07:45,580 --> 01:07:51,980 Yeah, if you could go back to the OTV facility model, 772 01:07:56,220 --> 01:07:58,020 you want me to do it or I don't want to mess you up. 773 01:07:59,240 --> 01:07:59,700 Which one? 774 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:00,800 Back. 775 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:01,880 It was back. 776 01:08:08,910 --> 01:08:12,870 So that's a rendering, this is a rendering, how would it be? 777 01:08:12,890 --> 01:08:15,830 It's still pink, it's not beige, correct. 778 01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:17,910 The next line. 779 01:08:18,970 --> 01:08:20,090 It's going to be beige. 780 01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:21,050 Yeah, yeah. 781 01:08:21,450 --> 01:08:23,630 These renderings are these live. 782 01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:26,430 These are rendering, nothing has been started yet. 783 01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:28,650 Okay, so no work has been done. 784 01:08:29,230 --> 01:08:31,010 We've done some stuck-up patch on the exterior, 785 01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:33,990 but that no real work, it's in permitting right now. 786 01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:34,890 It's in permitting. 787 01:08:35,090 --> 01:08:36,530 What's the total cost? 788 01:08:37,450 --> 01:08:40,670 We think estimated about 1.2 million, 1.2. 789 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,580 And we're doing this in partnership with two different organizations. 790 01:08:50,030 --> 01:08:51,430 Say our first hand. 791 01:08:52,430 --> 01:08:53,030 Prime time. 792 01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:53,510 Time. 793 01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:57,050 And then the grandstand, the next one. 794 01:08:59,590 --> 01:09:03,350 The total, what's the total project for that? 795 01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:04,530 Right now. 796 01:09:04,530 --> 01:09:09,330 And most recently, all three phases, about $1.9 million. 797 01:09:09,890 --> 01:09:15,610 And so none of it's been done, just drawings and planings and the 798 01:09:15,610 --> 01:09:18,750 like how much has been expended for each. 799 01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:23,050 I think for engineering, probably about $100,000. 800 01:09:23,870 --> 01:09:25,610 And then it's in Germany. 801 01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:27,670 It's in Germany. 802 01:09:28,150 --> 01:09:29,410 You're in a permitting process. 803 01:09:29,550 --> 01:09:29,890 Correct. 804 01:09:29,890 --> 01:09:31,050 The tail end of it. 805 01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:33,330 And you're working with our GSA team. 806 01:09:34,510 --> 01:09:41,930 This is past GSA, it's with county building building too, building department, okay. 807 01:09:42,030 --> 01:09:42,390 Nice to meet you. 808 01:09:43,010 --> 01:09:44,190 I sure come over quickly. 809 01:09:44,890 --> 01:09:47,610 So you think there's a big market for pickleball, huh? 810 01:09:47,830 --> 01:09:47,950 Yeah. 811 01:09:50,230 --> 01:09:56,710 So that rendering is done by someone that is very much encouraged by pickleball. 812 01:09:58,630 --> 01:09:59,430 It's not ours. 813 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,440 We're done with that. We've done a bit of revenue announcement. That's big for the fair. 814 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,640 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. We're good. 815 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:14,160 Because that's not easy. Look at Futsal. Futsal is about 450 thousand. 816 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,820 Think it's about the 380 as a size that we landed on. 817 01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:24,460 And that's pure rent. This project really has we haven't gone very deep with these proposals 818 01:10:24,460 --> 01:10:26,860 because we don't want to get ahead of the potential 819 01:10:26,860 --> 01:10:31,580 monster plus act or whether this needs a more formal RSP. 820 01:10:32,860 --> 01:10:35,320 That's why we're working right now with GSA to say, 821 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,620 you help us tell us what he want done. 822 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,160 And we don't want him to step before we even get started. 823 01:10:41,340 --> 01:10:43,080 And so, my only other question is, 824 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,900 with all the projects, 825 01:10:45,140 --> 01:10:47,120 there's a fairly solar level here 826 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,420 that becomes really the solar. 827 01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:52,160 Yeah, the fair has over two megawatts of solar. 828 01:10:52,160 --> 01:11:03,000 All of the partners are covered in solar, the Safeway barn is brand new, solar that actually just got finally activated in June with PG&E. 829 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,160 We have the new solar cannabis that are out in the VIP and Horsesman's lots. 830 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:17,680 The Amodore Pavilion is covered in solar and then in our building, building A was part of that project as well. 831 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:25,900 And, in fact, a portion of this, the county was a supervisor of Haggerty, we put the loan together with him. 832 01:11:26,340 --> 01:11:30,280 So, we have about, I don't know, maybe four or five years left on the loan. 833 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,440 This is the safely barn, also. 834 01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:41,540 The safely barn is actually an educational piece because it's bifacial, solar, and it's tiled, so it's water shedding. 835 01:11:41,740 --> 01:11:45,960 Water doesn't drip through it because of the new technology that we used on that. 836 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:53,820 I'm not a part of that water segmentist, eventually, show that people, the kids have come 837 01:11:53,820 --> 01:11:55,800 there, how are we recapture water? 838 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:05,920 And I believe I'm correct, Jerome, the three phases of the honines and the plaza rework, 839 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,080 we're undertaking the first phase of that this year in 2006. 840 01:12:11,780 --> 01:12:15,320 Correct, the first phase, I'm hoping that's to start in the budget. 841 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,420 in the next month, they're permitting runs through properly. 842 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:23,320 The other portion is part of the 2027 and beyond budgets. 843 01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:24,200 Okay. 844 01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:26,020 What's the cost of pickleball? 845 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:26,800 Estimated. 846 01:12:27,220 --> 01:12:27,540 Cost? 847 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,240 No idea. 848 01:12:28,780 --> 01:12:29,640 We have not. 849 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,520 Do you mean to apply the game? 850 01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:32,360 No. 851 01:12:33,180 --> 01:12:36,940 To train and install 32 pickleball courts. 852 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,340 For us? 853 01:12:38,900 --> 01:12:39,040 Yeah. 854 01:12:39,260 --> 01:12:39,600 We would. 855 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:42,360 Oh. 856 01:12:42,980 --> 01:12:46,560 So you would enter into a long-term waste with a pickleball association. 857 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:53,500 I don't think there isn't steel has been determined that it could be a lane lease if we go through lane surplus 858 01:12:53,500 --> 01:12:55,520 It could be a partnership with the fairgrounds 859 01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:02,660 It could be a licensing agreement that the fair, you know, we may participate in an own portion of it 860 01:13:02,660 --> 01:13:06,540 But none of that is you know, there's still a commission visions part of the position 861 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:14,100 Possibilities and then on on the off-track bed and facility 862 01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:20,040 I rock-track betting all the dollar-wise is because of Golden Gate deals closing. 863 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,580 We've been able to capture that. 864 01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:24,960 It's able to drive here from there. 865 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:25,660 Yeah, sure. 866 01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:27,560 Any other questions? 867 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,060 Any questions online? 868 01:13:31,740 --> 01:13:31,840 Yeah. 869 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:32,360 Yeah. 870 01:13:33,060 --> 01:13:33,240 Oh. 871 01:13:34,220 --> 01:13:35,540 Probably trees will be removed. 872 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,020 We'll need to do the grandparent area. 873 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,200 I think that I counted eleven and six will go in its place. 874 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,140 Those are the big island trees that are tearing up the asphalt. 875 01:13:48,140 --> 01:13:58,080 There's a second one, so in the race or a place that was a six minute, what would you say you cut out 12, 12, can you replace it with six? 876 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:03,140 Well, we replace more than that in other areas, but in that zone, yes. 877 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,280 Chair, I do have an on-line. 878 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:08,400 Public comment. 879 01:14:09,180 --> 01:14:09,340 Okay. 880 01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:10,140 Online. 881 01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:11,060 Go ahead. 882 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,080 Katie? 883 01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:14,220 You're on the line. 884 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:14,940 Reporting. 885 01:14:17,780 --> 01:14:18,180 Hi, guys. 886 01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:24,240 I'm not aware of the agenda so unfortunately, I've been through the whole meeting and I have to go. 887 01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:29,420 So I just want to interject at this point when you are planning these facilities. 888 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,300 I didn't see anything that had to do with the Amodore Pavilion besides naming it after Scott. 889 01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:45,160 And I'm hoping that kind of things I understand we got these panels a couple years back and we got the wash racks which were nice. 890 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:50,240 But unfortunately our take for injured honours on the boss racks has no 891 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,740 to put any breath through. 892 01:14:52,060 --> 01:14:56,160 So the take clip and a few of our take we're injured and we're not able to show. 893 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,960 So this is also just to remind you that 894 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:26,680 When this property was donated to the Gallaudet Accounting Fair, it was with the intention of the 4-HDSM A kids actually being able to show there and becoming recalls adults, and while the safe way is beautiful, I really believe that it is the responsibility of the 4-HDSM A kids to be teaching the public about their projects. 895 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:33,980 So, it was nice to have something for them, showing for them on these plans. 896 01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:41,140 I think it was all kind of screaming, said, we have received a letter, we had received a letter. 897 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:46,280 All of the parents who came to the letter, saying that we could no longer support for our kids. 898 01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:47,900 That close to the barn. 899 01:15:48,740 --> 01:15:50,720 And fortunately, the letter came from Renee. 900 01:15:50,720 --> 01:16:02,600 But as I talked to Jim, the supervisor afterwards, he's the one that says he will donate right the letter, however, he said it was the key that holds him and it was not. 901 01:16:02,740 --> 01:16:09,720 It was the fact that he's worked for other fairs and he knows that the states who are in laws are regarding that. 902 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,740 And so he interjected and had renace them the letter. 903 01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:17,680 And fortunately, he did not put his name on the letter and said that it was from our fair. 904 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:24,840 So, I think just coming from the parental part, I've cooked breakfast for all of the FFA kids a couple 905 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,340 of times during the week. 906 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,780 We just don't know what's happening, and so that's that that's that it was kind of like 907 01:16:30,780 --> 01:16:32,000 the start to the wildfire. 908 01:16:32,340 --> 01:16:39,480 So, there's a little bit of a fear of obviously being picked out of the fair, the whole process 909 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,900 of how accounting fair was started is being pushed to the side. 910 01:16:45,660 --> 01:16:54,560 So, if you still can thank you guys, I'll take consideration in that and just are a little bit more aware of the reason why we actually have a fair. 911 01:16:56,650 --> 01:16:58,630 That's it. Thank you. 912 01:16:58,930 --> 01:17:02,070 Thank you. Anything else online? 913 01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:04,930 Yes, I have an excuse. 914 01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:12,260 I don't know, that's it. 915 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,800 Do you have something? 916 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:21,080 Yeah, I just want to thank the speaker for the comments and make sure everybody is aware 917 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:28,860 that the staff, the board of the fair, are very aware of any different items and concerns 918 01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:29,940 in the livestock area. 919 01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:35,600 For example, the new wash rack that was implemented is to slick and so we got a wealth 920 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,680 of the concrete. 921 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:43,860 We dealt with a barbecue issue this year that is going to be discussed at the next three 922 01:17:43,860 --> 01:17:45,740 clock meeting related to agriculture. 923 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:52,480 So it's going through the proper committee process now, and all of those comments have 924 01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,940 been heard and will be addressed through the committee process. 925 01:17:55,460 --> 01:17:56,360 So thank you. 926 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,880 I'll also weigh in and say that I appreciate the comments, indeed. 927 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:11,300 I recognize that Alameda County Fair is an urban fair. 928 01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:17,080 In the middle of a, it's not really urban, it's more suburban, 929 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:24,220 but we've transitioned to more of an urban fair 930 01:18:24,220 --> 01:18:26,740 and we're continuing that progression. 931 01:18:26,740 --> 01:18:35,660 And whereas, indeed, we still have an obligation to honor a heritage in our culture. 932 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:42,400 And so, while we treat it as an urban fair or a suburban fair or more of a commercial 933 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:55,140 economic development fair, it wasn't that when it originated and I think we can talk about 934 01:18:55,140 --> 01:19:13,260 How we got there but I'm going to talk about maybe towards the end of the meeting, how our board's vision, I think, needs to be taken into account with regard to maintaining the agricultural aspects of this fair. 935 01:19:13,260 --> 01:19:25,140 And to recognize that we express that in forms of our contract, which we'll talk about later. 936 01:19:26,260 --> 01:19:41,040 And our views of what this fair is and will become and will be our views expressed in our contract to be implemented by our agent. 937 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:52,800 And I think that this one commenter is one commenter, but it's comments that I've heard 938 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:59,140 time and time and time again from a not so small part of our community. 939 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:09,820 We'll work on this together. I have no doubt. We will continue to be what I said this summer. The best 940 01:20:09,820 --> 01:20:13,720 county fair in the state may be the country. 941 01:20:15,950 --> 01:20:18,710 But we're going to do it together. We're going 942 01:20:18,710 --> 01:20:25,550 to set direction and follow direction. So that's enough of that for now. I don't need 943 01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:28,530 go into more details at this point. 944 01:20:28,530 --> 01:20:29,770 Thank you for the presentation. 945 01:20:30,650 --> 01:20:34,070 Not only the vision, which I understand is vision, 946 01:20:35,170 --> 01:20:40,210 visionary, not set and stone, although, I mean, 947 01:20:40,450 --> 01:20:43,090 if it's in progress of being implemented in the 948 01:20:43,090 --> 01:20:45,710 performance stage, it's not really vision. 949 01:20:47,550 --> 01:20:51,510 And I guess our next informational item will be also 950 01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:52,490 very visionary. 951 01:20:53,810 --> 01:20:55,390 Let's go to the next time. 952 01:20:56,650 --> 01:20:58,850 Anything else on item three? 953 01:20:59,490 --> 01:20:59,730 Good. 954 01:21:00,410 --> 01:21:03,330 Go alongside and forward the hotel development project. 955 01:21:08,230 --> 01:21:10,070 We look to see how many of this. 956 01:21:10,150 --> 01:21:13,830 Yeah, I was going to say actually was put on by you. 957 01:21:14,130 --> 01:21:15,610 This is standing item. 958 01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:18,950 The hotel is a piece of vision plane. 959 01:21:20,250 --> 01:21:22,610 Right now there is not a developer to be worked with. 960 01:21:22,610 --> 01:21:28,010 of our last meeting that what's important is that we work through the Lancet Plus Act 961 01:21:28,010 --> 01:21:33,630 or not, whether the county's process would be, so that when financing finally becomes 962 01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:37,210 available, of course, a project like this that we're ready to go and we're not going 963 01:21:37,210 --> 01:21:43,210 to be unable. So, it should remain a standing item since there's an action to be taken, 964 01:21:43,550 --> 01:21:49,410 I believe, the committee, and the county's already committed to working through that process. 965 01:21:50,350 --> 01:21:56,170 I'm not pretty too exactly what the process is, but we're two years in the making on it. 966 01:21:56,630 --> 01:21:59,490 So I don't know if there's any other comments I know Kimberly couldn't make it today. 967 01:22:00,290 --> 01:22:02,390 Andrew, this is more of a legal question. 968 01:22:03,490 --> 01:22:09,880 Have we had any recent discussions in either at the staff level, 969 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,920 or I can't remember, forgive me, if I'm missing something, 970 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:25,520 have we had any discussions as a board saying a close session around surf-lossing land? 971 01:22:26,460 --> 01:22:28,260 I wouldn't stop for a board. 972 01:22:28,580 --> 01:22:32,020 I wouldn't talk about what a board discussed in the close session, but 973 01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:33,400 just whether we had had a discussion. 974 01:22:34,260 --> 01:22:38,240 There was a discussion that this community, I want to say a couple of years ago, 975 01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:42,190 we talked through what the surface laying back process is, 976 01:22:42,190 --> 01:22:47,210 And that was following ruby genes to the guidelines, 977 01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:51,150 which functioned my gradulations, but out by the state, 978 01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:53,890 causing it to be relevant, agency. 979 01:22:55,810 --> 01:22:58,290 Since that time, there's really been no change in the line. 980 01:22:58,550 --> 01:23:03,550 So it's really whenever folks want to go through that process, 981 01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:07,490 which could happen, how or it could happen, 982 01:23:07,490 --> 01:23:12,590 The closer in time to when there is a project in the world, 983 01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:16,550 simply declaring that the properties are less than going 984 01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:22,230 through the notice and the opportunity to primarily 985 01:23:22,230 --> 01:23:26,870 afford housing developers, but also school districts 986 01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:30,570 in the open space providers to negotiate 987 01:23:30,570 --> 01:23:34,930 your faith or regarding this position or property 988 01:23:34,930 --> 01:23:36,370 and you know, turning into one of them, 989 01:23:36,610 --> 01:23:38,170 and it's a project that they developed, 990 01:23:39,690 --> 01:23:42,070 and they're doing that or one of it 991 01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:43,970 that those two things in which you should 992 01:23:43,970 --> 01:23:46,250 don't produce one of those projects 993 01:23:46,810 --> 01:23:49,490 presenting the phone or the remote idea of the project. 994 01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:53,250 So it's really a timing question of when, 995 01:23:55,770 --> 01:24:00,310 the county and the association want to move forward. 996 01:24:01,130 --> 01:24:02,410 And to say, if you have a network, 997 01:24:05,410 --> 01:24:12,050 What's the process, so it's sort of chicken and egg, which comes first, do they, does 998 01:24:14,350 --> 01:24:21,690 the fairboard request the county to surplus the land in which case balls in our court? 999 01:24:21,710 --> 01:24:24,230 We decide whether we want to do that or not. 1000 01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:31,190 And we can then say we would consider surplusing it after you have a project, because what 1001 01:24:31,190 --> 01:24:35,750 heard was they want to get ahead of that so that they can move forward with the project 1002 01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:41,070 and finance and become available. So it feels like just trying to clarify. 1003 01:24:43,530 --> 01:24:44,470 The request has 1004 01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:55,250 been made, yes or no, to surplus the land that where the hotel is contemplated. Is that correct? 1005 01:24:55,250 --> 01:24:56,790 Now it's my death request. 1006 01:24:57,190 --> 01:24:59,970 Yeah, I'm multiple of them. 1007 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:09,680 You want to build more units, but you don't necessarily have to make sure that those meet the affordability numbers. 1008 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:19,380 No, to get the density bonus, you do have to commit to a certain number of units at specified income levels, a developer with no subsidy. 1009 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:28,240 With no subsidy, you're just required. So if you have a hundred unit building and you're required to have 10% of them at 80%. 1010 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,780 in order to get to that 100, you have to have it. 1011 01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:36,240 So the intent of the policy is that we don't want to subsidize 1012 01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:40,900 met with measure A1 funds, something they're already required to do. 1013 01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:45,360 We want to use the measure A1 funds to either add more affordable units 1014 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,640 or make them more deeply affordable, so that there's an A1 benefit. 1015 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:54,460 That's different in addition to what they're already required to do. 1016 01:25:56,190 --> 01:26:09,850 So, I guess, at some point, maybe you've already done it, you kind of have a number already known in each of these buckets of how many units will actually be constructed. 1017 01:26:10,910 --> 01:26:19,130 Or how are we overseeing or following the count of actual units that are built that are affordable? 1018 01:26:19,130 --> 01:26:21,530 So, we are tracking that. 1019 01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:29,110 We have looked at various ways of projecting, but it really depends on what other subsidies 1020 01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:30,170 are available. 1021 01:26:31,170 --> 01:26:36,250 And so we don't have a final number other than to maximize the number of units. 1022 01:26:36,550 --> 01:26:43,490 And with the addition of new money coming at the state, for example, if the federal home program 1023 01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:48,290 is totally defunded, which is threatened every fiscal year lately, the last few years. 1024 01:26:48,290 --> 01:27:02,770 You know, that'll be make it harder to create more units with the new state money coming that will make it easier to create more units, so it's really dependent on not just the measure A1 funds, but everything else that's happening in terms of other financing. 1025 01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:17,290 Okay, so again, I guess since the community passed this, it just seems as though there's deep concern that we we're using our. 1026 01:27:17,290 --> 01:27:23,890 a bond opportunities here to develop affordable housing. But at the end of the day, people want 1027 01:27:23,890 --> 01:27:31,530 to make sure that the outcome or affordable units. And I guess we need to figure out a better 1028 01:27:31,530 --> 01:27:37,810 way to tighten that up. That seems to be another issue that's consistently raised from people 1029 01:27:37,810 --> 01:27:43,910 in the industry out of the industry or just commoners. And I'm not sure whether and I guess on some 1030 01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:56,270 Do we have any kind of the oversight that's going to be engaged in this because I think that we need to do that as well? 1031 01:27:56,770 --> 01:28:02,110 I'm not clear on the first part of your comment in terms of the concern about affordable units. 1032 01:28:02,110 --> 01:28:13,010 So, the thing that I've heard from the experts, and again, with all the respects, these are not individuals who are coming to the meetings and just wanting to get, 1033 01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:17,190 these are people who've been doing housing development and doing housing administration. 1034 01:28:18,110 --> 01:28:28,870 I say, what are you guys doing to be able to know how many units is supposed to be affordable that they were billed affordable and that the end of the day you met that exact number? 1035 01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:38,210 So, we do not have an absolute projection of units at each affordability level. 1036 01:28:38,890 --> 01:28:44,630 We do monitor that so that whatever we're looking for the most affordability, the most 1037 01:28:44,630 --> 01:28:51,690 affordable units, when we do project selections, and then we monitor against the requirements 1038 01:28:51,690 --> 01:28:54,710 that we accepted the project under. 1039 01:28:54,710 --> 01:29:01,450 So I don't think that totally answers your question, but that is a routine thing that we do in my 1040 01:29:01,450 --> 01:29:08,250 department. So we would continue to do that. And there is a oversight committee called for in the 1041 01:29:08,250 --> 01:29:16,650 program that was adopted in June and our implementation plan that your committee approved in January 1042 01:29:16,650 --> 01:29:23,350 has us coming with recommendations on the formation and composition of the oversight committee in January. 1043 01:29:24,850 --> 01:29:31,850 So as we're making some of these decisions now, we wouldn't have that oversight committee in 1044 01:29:31,850 --> 01:29:35,590 place because I mean at some point they're just looking in the review mirror. 1045 01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:41,950 That is the intention of the oversight committee is an annual review to make sure that the 1046 01:29:41,950 --> 01:29:46,950 funds were spent in accordance to what the bond the voters voted for. 1047 01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:59,950 It is not intended as a proactive review or but more of an annual retroactive annual review to make sure that we comply with what the voters approve. 1048 01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:28,980 As a part of kind of again looking in the review mirror, I can't see how the policy that is written now ensures that for the rental part tenants are screened out in terms of not being able to access housing. 1049 01:30:28,980 --> 01:30:37,760 They have maybe immigrants and maybe people re-entering from prison, and I just still 1050 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:43,520 missing that component that ensures or really protects them from being screened out, 1051 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:49,760 especially the re-entry community that under HUD guidelines can't get into housing, under 1052 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,360 a bunch of other things, and then we're trying to figure out how to then not become a part 1053 01:30:53,360 --> 01:31:00,300 and contaminants, but access housing, so I'm missing there. 1054 01:31:00,940 --> 01:31:08,760 So what we have to look at is what are the other financing sources in each proposed 1055 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:20,740 development, and then minimizing the negative impact of any federal requirements that would 1056 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:29,860 like, you know, looking at how many units are subsidized by project-based Section 8 that 1057 01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:36,760 would exclude undocumented immigrants and people with certain kinds of criminal convictions. 1058 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:45,900 And what other operating subsidies we can find such as MHSA, for example, that wouldn't 1059 01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:53,480 have those same restrictions so that we're maximizing the use of other leveraged funds, 1060 01:31:54,220 --> 01:32:00,960 but also making sure that our target populations are served. And where no federal restriction 1061 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:09,040 exists, we would be looking at all the possible ways to not only target specific units for our 1062 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:15,040 target populations, but also screen in tools that screen in rather than screen out. 1063 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,240 You said we're going to come back on the 19th. 1064 01:32:21,980 --> 01:32:22,300 Okay. 1065 01:32:26,620 --> 01:32:29,280 So is that back to the health committee on October 19th? 1066 01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:29,780 No. 1067 01:32:29,900 --> 01:32:31,080 This is a full board of retreat. 1068 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:32,220 Okay. 1069 01:32:33,420 --> 01:32:34,780 On the 17th, I believe. 1070 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,040 Oh, it's us Tuesday, whatever that is. 1071 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:37,840 Whatever that is. 1072 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:38,400 Yeah, whatever that is. 1073 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:38,920 You're seven. 1074 01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,200 Your feathers. 1075 01:32:46,060 --> 01:32:46,260 These speakers. 1076 01:32:46,980 --> 01:32:48,780 Um, I'll hold off because there's some people. 1077 01:32:48,940 --> 01:32:51,680 I want to be respectful of the time and I know we're going to come back. 1078 01:32:51,820 --> 01:32:54,920 I know the board has a lot of questions. 1079 01:32:58,820 --> 01:32:59,100 Okay. 1080 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:18,970 Good morning, Supervisor Chan, Supervisor Carson, my name is Ever Cleveland, Senior Project Manager with a ballcasey supporting the Food Vale Transit Village to a project. 1081 01:33:19,470 --> 01:33:25,630 And I'd like to take a moment to just share some clarifying detail with respect to the project closing conditions. 1082 01:33:26,350 --> 01:33:35,370 Our debt and equity providers will not commit their funds to this project unless all projects sources are guaranteed to the project. 1083 01:33:35,370 --> 01:33:42,210 Our providers are committed to the project, but they need to communicate a feasible timeline for closing. 1084 01:33:42,810 --> 01:33:51,190 And at this time, they're not comfortable with our target at Sid LaClosing Deadline, which is stated for November 13, 2017. 1085 01:33:52,430 --> 01:34:01,610 To commit their funds, we need a final proposal solution for guaranteeing county funds, no later than October 13, 2017. 1086 01:34:01,610 --> 01:34:06,750 So they have an opportunity to vet the final proposal internally. 1087 01:34:07,610 --> 01:34:15,470 The simple solution as my colleague stated just a short while ago is to remove contingent language from the contract. 1088 01:34:16,170 --> 01:34:21,450 This creates assurance the county money will be available when it's time to fund. 1089 01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:31,530 And so perhaps you can schedule this item on your October 10th Board of Supervisor meeting to direct staff to act on this. 1090 01:34:31,530 --> 01:34:38,590 We are not relying upon county cash during construction, but instead for permanent financing in 2019. 1091 01:34:39,830 --> 01:34:48,490 So even if the A1 bonds are not sold in the spring of 2018, the county will not be called upon to put in substitute cash at that point. 1092 01:34:49,710 --> 01:34:56,670 But if the county doesn't agree to obligate its funds on or before October 13, 2017, 1093 01:34:56,670 --> 01:34:59,990 Our project will lose its sit-lack. 1094 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:07,200 100,000 performance deposit. And we will be subject to a 4 to 8 percent construction cost escalation, 1095 01:35:08,060 --> 01:35:15,480 if we have to wait another six months to close. The project has already taken so long to get to this point 1096 01:35:15,480 --> 01:35:21,600 because we had to secure numerous sources of funds and we clearly cannot absorb these additional costs. 1097 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:29,560 We would stand to lose the entire affordable housing development. So we urge you to place this item on 1098 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:35,980 our October 10th board agenda, and to have a plan in place no later than October 13th 1099 01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:39,240 to keep our project on schedule for a 2017 closing. 1100 01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:41,100 Thank you. 1101 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,920 I think on this thing, you're still working on it, right? 1102 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:51,620 I mean, the point of putting it on the agenda, we don't know what we're going to do. 1103 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,800 You'd have to have a solution on the agenda. 1104 01:35:54,320 --> 01:36:00,240 But what the developer I believe is asking for is essentially a county guarantee that should 1105 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:09,640 measure A1 bonds not be issued and funds from the bond not be available by their permanent financing 1106 01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:19,200 close that the county would use other sources of funds to meet that obligation. I might have 1107 01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:25,820 a different opinion about that than the county administrator and so I am not able to bring that 1108 01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:28,300 type of recommendation to you. 1109 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,520 OK, I would just suggest that County Council and whoever 1110 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,300 is talking with them continue to talk. 1111 01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:37,580 I can see why that letter might not do it, 1112 01:36:37,580 --> 01:36:41,700 because it's so if there may be some way 1113 01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:45,680 to write something that's more assuring. 1114 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,820 I don't know if that'll do it. 1115 01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,680 But I certainly suggest you look at that language. 1116 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,000 I mean, I know legally we're trying to protect the county, 1117 01:36:54,000 --> 01:37:00,580 and that's the obligation of the board, but on the other hand, it's so the way that's written, 1118 01:37:01,940 --> 01:37:06,440 it's very contingent. Yeah, it's so contingent, and we know it's not in real life, not going 1119 01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:12,900 to be that contingent. If it is, then we really, you know, I mean it would only be that contingent 1120 01:37:12,900 --> 01:37:19,020 if we have a depression next year and then everyone's going to be. Some sort of, some extent the 1121 01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:24,220 conditions are derivative of the resolution that was adopted to support the funding from the 1122 01:37:24,220 --> 01:37:30,000 Measure A1 funds. And so to reverse that, we may have to come to you with a resolution 1123 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,380 that would change that. And it would then look to you to say that you the full board to say, 1124 01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:42,360 are you prepared to put other county money into the program? It should the Measure A1's funds 1125 01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:48,200 not be available or not be available in a timely manner. And so those are our discretionary policy 1126 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:53,800 decisions of your board, and we can draft whatever you would like us to do so on that matter, 1127 01:37:54,900 --> 01:37:59,960 but the funds would have to be identified in the budget and place an account so that they would 1128 01:37:59,960 --> 01:38:05,400 be available for this project so that we could make the loan when an NHS required to be made. 1129 01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:14,720 That said, I will be meeting with the Treasurer to discuss with him ideas that came up in that meeting 1130 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:21,020 and see if there's, and then continue to work with the County Administrator and County Council to see what we can bring. 1131 01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:24,760 I mean, the goal is to get this project done obviously, so. 1132 01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,000 Gloria Bruce. 1133 01:38:32,230 --> 01:38:32,910 Morning supervisors. 1134 01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:33,950 Good morning staff. 1135 01:38:34,110 --> 01:38:35,110 Thank you for the presentation. 1136 01:38:35,450 --> 01:38:36,290 All the great questions. 1137 01:38:37,090 --> 01:38:42,930 I just wanted to address a supervisor, Carson, a few really good points that you've raised around partnerships around innovations. 1138 01:38:43,570 --> 01:38:52,270 And just really echo and agree with your point that we are in an age where we need to be pushing the envelope because of the extent of the housing crisis. 1139 01:38:53,710 --> 01:39:12,710 And as Linda stated, having more money allows us to do that by, for example, freeing up other pots of funds, such as the boomerang funds that are allowing us to 1140 01:39:12,710 --> 01:39:17,410 we're in a place where we have to both be pushing the envelope and holding the line and I think 1141 01:39:17,410 --> 01:39:23,530 continuing to encourage the type of affordable housing that we know changes lives and we know 1142 01:39:23,530 --> 01:39:28,570 changes communities as really important to keep encouraging and completely agree with you that this 1143 01:39:28,570 --> 01:39:33,370 crisis is not going to be solved just by supply of market rate housing and that we have to do and that 1144 01:39:33,370 --> 01:39:42,250 many people in this room are doing work around protection of tenants preservation of homes on the 1145 01:39:42,250 --> 01:39:47,810 construction and accuracy have, but we're doing that work and I just need to emphasize that promoting 1146 01:39:47,810 --> 01:39:53,910 affordable tax credit rental housing does help with those goals of anti-displacement as well because, 1147 01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:57,790 you know, for one thing, it allows for stability and saving, hopefully people can move to home ownership. 1148 01:39:58,410 --> 01:39:59,950 For other things, and while we are in a- 1149 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,500 State environment where we have not yet managed to remove constraints such as cost to Hawkins. We need all the new affordable 1150 01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:12,480 subsidized homes we can get so that people have some place to go when every time they move out of a 1151 01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:17,080 rent control department, that apartment is essentially gone and no longer affordable because we have 1152 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:21,460 vacancy decontroll. So we need all of those. We need to be firing on all cylinders. 1153 01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:24,880 Because of that, 1154 01:40:25,180 --> 01:40:29,280 I think we are, as you've heard me say before, extremely supportive of those partnerships who want 1155 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:35,100 see how we can have those positive partnerships happen and unfortunately we have state financing 1156 01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:40,560 sources and federal financing sources that are not sympathetic to our efforts to make sure 1157 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:45,120 that we broaden the pool of people who have property who are motivated who want to do this. 1158 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:50,040 They need to see certain things done by certain loan deadlines and because of that we're saying, 1159 01:40:50,060 --> 01:40:54,560 okay, let's have people partner for the first project of the second project and then hopefully 1160 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:59,540 those folks then later when we have, when we pass this state bond, that the governor just allowed 1161 01:40:59,540 --> 01:41:04,520 to go on the ballot next year, that we have other people who can move into that group of 1162 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:09,120 a tier 1 developers in the future. For now, we have to get those homes, those homes really 1163 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:14,180 done. And I just really want to close with, you know, supporting my colleagues and members from 1164 01:41:14,180 --> 01:41:18,540 Abaltsi and the Unity Council, you've heard it, you've heard the urgency, and I want to also 1165 01:41:18,540 --> 01:41:22,680 put it about that this isn't, this is absolutely about getting the right number and the most 1166 01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,080 number of units, but at the end of the day, we are talking about homes. 1167 01:41:26,500 --> 01:41:29,540 And so if this project doesn't close, a lot of times people will be like, well, a project 1168 01:41:29,540 --> 01:41:30,040 doesn't close. 1169 01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:30,880 Well, then what happens? 1170 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,300 Well, it gets delayed. 1171 01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:34,280 But it's not just about a project that doesn't delay. 1172 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:39,720 Those are homes that are not going to be built and open or available for six months, 1173 01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:40,640 a year or two years. 1174 01:41:40,740 --> 01:41:45,680 And those are people who will be continuing to make tough choices, be continuing to have to 1175 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:50,180 leave the county, the city, in some cases, before it's going to the street or other unacceptable 1176 01:41:50,180 --> 01:41:50,640 choices. 1177 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:55,520 So I just really want to put that urgency in the frame of homes and people as well as a project. 1178 01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:56,640 Thank you. 1179 01:41:58,020 --> 01:41:58,780 Next we have. 1180 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,700 Nididi followed by Robert Rayburn followed by Jamie. 1181 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:03,820 Hit to. 1182 01:42:10,970 --> 01:42:11,890 Good morning, everyone. 1183 01:42:12,150 --> 01:42:17,950 My name is Nididi Okolagu and I'm here speaking on behalf of the dellance Institute for Social Justice 1184 01:42:17,950 --> 01:42:20,530 as well as the our beloved communities action that work. 1185 01:42:20,850 --> 01:42:24,270 And I'd like to thank the board and staff for their commitment to solving the displacement crisis. 1186 01:42:25,650 --> 01:42:39,930 There's just a few things that I wanted to flag this morning and I wanted to make sure that as we continue to build out the, you know, these implementation policies that we ensure that there's access for community-based organizations and faith community developers and 1187 01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:45,390 a way to ensure that access is to be sure that we level the playing field in these partnerships 1188 01:42:45,390 --> 01:42:53,050 and ensure that these partnerships are positive and that's something that Supervisor Chan echoed today as well. 1189 01:42:54,050 --> 01:43:06,890 And maybe we can look at something like ensuring that there are preference points for positive partnerships between developers and community-based organizations or faith-based projects and teams. 1190 01:43:06,890 --> 01:43:19,070 Something else I do want to flag today is that what is our process for continuing to promote the county's principles around racial and community equity. 1191 01:43:20,290 --> 01:43:27,150 And I understand that HCD will bring bringing the oversight community committee proposals in January 2018. 1192 01:43:27,150 --> 01:43:43,450 But I just want to ensure that we have a way to make decisions in a timely fashion and that the board has adequate time to redirect if necessary and troubleshoot some of these issues along with the community and staff. 1193 01:43:44,130 --> 01:43:53,210 And this is a way that we can kind of weave in community equity and racial equity into some of the decisions we're making around solving this housing crisis. 1194 01:43:53,210 --> 01:43:56,070 And those are my main two points today. 1195 01:43:56,290 --> 01:43:56,910 Thank you, everyone. 1196 01:43:57,790 --> 01:43:59,330 And have a wonderful day. 1197 01:44:00,050 --> 01:44:03,370 Kind of as an aside, over two years ago, 1198 01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:05,670 convened a meeting of the CEOs of the hospitals 1199 01:44:05,670 --> 01:44:11,910 in this area prior to that, even the advent of Measure 1A. 1200 01:44:12,350 --> 01:44:14,950 And at the conclusion of our annual meeting, 1201 01:44:15,250 --> 01:44:18,350 they were raised the issue of workforce housing. 1202 01:44:19,850 --> 01:44:26,070 And wanting to say, we have this great need to make sure we can ensure housing for our workers. 1203 01:44:26,210 --> 01:44:28,870 These are CEOs of the hospitals in our area including Kaiser. 1204 01:44:29,670 --> 01:44:34,210 And they own properties. They already own properties. They could be used in that. 1205 01:44:34,290 --> 01:44:38,970 Same thing for schools. So I mean, there's a lot of opportunities here. 1206 01:44:40,750 --> 01:44:42,990 And I agree that there has to be a diverse person. 1207 01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:44,150 Good 1208 01:44:48,340 --> 01:44:51,120 morning, Supervisor Chan, Supervisor Carson. 1209 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,900 My name is Robert Rayburn, I'm the Vice President 1210 01:44:53,900 --> 01:44:55,720 of the Bart Board of Directors. 1211 01:44:56,060 --> 01:44:59,960 I'm honored to represent seven Bart Stations in the... 1212 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,460 City of Oakland, including the Fruitvale Station. And like Chris Eglacius and Councilmember Nolgayo, I wish to urge 1213 01:45:09,460 --> 01:45:19,960 the commitment be made to the face to of the Fruitvale Transit Village Project. In 2016, the 1214 01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:27,480 Bart Board adopted a transit oriented development policy. That policy encompasses goals to, of course, 1215 01:45:27,480 --> 01:45:33,800 create mixed use development throughout the Bart system. Specifically, we urge to develop 1216 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:42,760 20,000 housing units in the coming years, including 6,000 affordable units. In 2010, the 1217 01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:51,420 Bart Board engaged in a long-term lease agreement with the Unity Council for the property where 1218 01:45:51,420 --> 01:45:59,940 the Phase 2 development will be built today at some parking lot. We recognize the Unity Council's 1219 01:45:59,940 --> 01:46:09,380 urgent need to secure the funds from the state by starting this project in November. We're 1220 01:46:09,380 --> 01:46:17,720 scheduling our meetings so that we will be able to give our final approval for that project this month 1221 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:29,240 And I urge that again, a commitment be made in the implementation of Major A1 to promote this urgently needed project. 1222 01:46:29,620 --> 01:46:30,700 Thank you. 1223 01:46:40,460 --> 01:46:42,160 Morning, Supervisor Chan, Supervisor Carson. 1224 01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:47,220 Thank you so much for taking the time to have this conversation about the policies for the A1 program. 1225 01:46:47,700 --> 01:46:51,740 As we continue to have these very important conversations about the policies for these dollars, 1226 01:46:51,740 --> 01:46:57,920 I just want to kind of echo the comments you've heard so far about timing, and we know 1227 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,400 that the bond working group is working towards having the bonds issued in February. 1228 01:47:01,860 --> 01:47:05,640 Burage was very fortunate to do what we parted on the San Leandro Project. 1229 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:11,980 We were able to close with some A1 dollars, but not without provisions in those documents, 1230 01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,440 that require that those bonds be issued in timely manner. 1231 01:47:15,940 --> 01:47:19,740 So just keeping the progress as we work on the policies towards those bonds being issued in 1232 01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:23,840 worries and incredibly projects, excuse me, incredibly important to our project and I'll 1233 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,600 speak to the other projects you've heard about today. So thank you very much. 1234 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,420 Adam Cooperman, Dr. AG and Lawrence Benhoch. 1235 01:47:43,250 --> 01:47:47,670 Good morning, Supervisor Chan, Supervisor Carson. Thank you. Thank you very much. 1236 01:47:47,690 --> 01:47:50,790 Staff for the great hard work in the presentation this morning. 1237 01:47:51,790 --> 01:47:55,870 My name is Adam Cooperman. I'm a project manager with satellite affordable housing associates 1238 01:47:55,870 --> 01:48:04,050 and currently working on Camino 23 a project in East Oakland that has been supported by these early A1 fund distributions. 1239 01:48:05,150 --> 01:48:13,670 What was made evidently clear November by the voting public and since the passing of A1 bonds by 1240 01:48:13,670 --> 01:48:23,370 local developers, displaced residents, city staff, local policy leaders, the general public housing now. 1241 01:48:23,370 --> 01:48:39,550 And I want to echo the comments made about how important it is for the funds that were unanimously heavily voted upon to be distributed into hit the streets as quickly as possible. 1242 01:48:39,550 --> 01:48:46,890 You're hearing today about one specific project that's very vitally awaiting a commitment of these funds. 1243 01:48:47,650 --> 01:48:53,830 What you're not hearing about are dozens of other projects that are also heavily reliant upon these funds, 1244 01:48:54,850 --> 01:49:02,150 and have teed up most likely hundreds of homes that can be starting construction very, very soon. 1245 01:49:02,150 --> 01:49:13,210 The timing of the decisions surrounding these funds are very important and very timely and will allow developers to bring homes to the community. 1246 01:49:15,390 --> 01:49:23,010 In everyday's important construction costs are increasingly rising every single day. 1247 01:49:23,010 --> 01:49:33,670 we are in a environment that is hit with these, the way in which these projects are financed, 1248 01:49:33,870 --> 01:49:35,090 time is of the essence. 1249 01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:42,430 The last thing that I want to say, two more things actually, 1250 01:49:42,650 --> 01:49:49,690 the positive local partnerships as a 50-year plus affordable housing developer in the East Bay, 1251 01:49:49,690 --> 01:49:55,930 is incredibly open to actively working on multiple projects with partner organizations. 1252 01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:59,350 It is a very important way in which we can help. 1253 01:50:00,340 --> 01:50:11,740 Spread the wealth of knowledge that's necessary in order to build affordable housing. And I think that good solid decisions should be made, but they should also not be limiting decisions. 1254 01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:21,000 And the affordable housing community, I believe, is ready willing and able to help mentor smaller organizations into the field. 1255 01:50:22,020 --> 01:50:27,220 The last thing that I will say is it's also become evidently clear that other counties 1256 01:50:27,220 --> 01:50:30,080 are watching what Alameda County is doing. 1257 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:39,800 There was a very positive feeling from surrounding Bay Area counties and it is really great 1258 01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:43,420 to see that other areas are watching Alameda County. 1259 01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:46,280 So thank you very much for everything you do. 1260 01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:03,980 Good morning, Supervisor Chan, and Supervisor Cores and staff. 1261 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:11,580 My name is Gerald A. Jam, the pastor of Friendship Christian Center, and I'm a part of 1262 01:51:11,580 --> 01:51:15,240 the Bay Area Community Benefit Organization. 1263 01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:22,020 I don't want to thank you, Supervisor Cores, and for the comments that you have made. 1264 01:51:22,020 --> 01:51:35,240 And just the the hard work that I'm discovering it takes to put on such a to address these issues of housing. 1265 01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:43,760 We have a cooperation that is endeavoring to develop affordable housing for seniors. 1266 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:53,460 And it has been an extremely learning curve for me, all of the intricacies of developing 1267 01:51:53,460 --> 01:51:54,560 housing. 1268 01:51:55,240 --> 01:52:01,380 But I want to just talk about what you had mentioned, supervised across the regarding the 1269 01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:12,260 oversight committee, and if I can just recommend that there be community involvement that 1270 01:52:12,260 --> 01:52:24,340 community people that are sitting on that oversight committee and that the board would be the ones that are choosing those people. 1271 01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:40,840 And I would like to suggest that the oversight committee not only be a committee that can offer reports regarding looking in the review mirror 1272 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:49,140 of what has happened, but can also help to bring to your attention what has happened 1273 01:52:49,140 --> 01:52:55,700 in with the projects as they are being produced. 1274 01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:04,760 And so that's just a thought that would be, it's a very important piece that we don't want 1275 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:13,700 to just get, you know, pushed aside that oversight committee piece is extremely important. 1276 01:53:14,140 --> 01:53:15,080 Thank you. 1277 01:53:24,510 --> 01:53:29,870 Good morning to President, to supervisor Carson as well, and to staff. 1278 01:53:32,210 --> 01:53:36,890 I come this morning, could dress a little bit better, but as Monday. 1279 01:53:38,570 --> 01:53:49,890 We have literally been inundated with those that are displaced underneath the bridge by 34th 1280 01:53:50,430 --> 01:53:55,010 and Proudta, it is a major catastrophe. 1281 01:53:56,990 --> 01:54:04,330 Hepatitis A is a big deal now, and I'm afraid that those of us who have compassion and 1282 01:54:04,330 --> 01:54:10,210 concerned about those people on the need to bridge where now children are in the encampments. 1283 01:54:11,070 --> 01:54:13,310 And so this housing crisis is major. 1284 01:54:14,230 --> 01:54:19,530 Lawrence Vanhook is my name, the community church, I'm also a part of the organization 1285 01:54:19,530 --> 01:54:21,970 that Dr. AG just spoke about. 1286 01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:28,190 And it is now at epidemic proportion that we do something with housing. 1287 01:54:28,190 --> 01:54:39,130 The faith community has ramped up so much to be prepared for the housing crises, but there's 1288 01:54:39,130 --> 01:54:43,810 no way we can get it done with limited to no resources. 1289 01:54:44,650 --> 01:54:51,830 I'm asking is there a way we can get a set aside before time is too late for carve out 1290 01:54:51,830 --> 01:54:59,950 for us not only to build capacity, but then begin to implement some of the housing, some of the members, some of the... 1291 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:08,260 Properly that we already have, that we can begin to help some of the displaced workers under the A1 bond. 1292 01:55:08,380 --> 01:55:27,140 I know the 750,000 has been set aside for CBOs, net BOs. But we have credible, capable people that can meet the needs of some of the emergency, some of the displaced, some of those who are formally incarcerated, some of those who are low income. 1293 01:55:27,140 --> 01:55:33,140 and we have put the capacity and the team together to make a difference in the areas where we live 1294 01:55:33,140 --> 01:55:39,900 working worship. Time is moving to focus ticking and we keep getting pushed around about 1295 01:55:39,900 --> 01:55:46,640 actually receiving some of the funds and so I'm requesting we've met all the requirements we have 1296 01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:53,260 the incredible people in place who actually understand and know housing and now we're at the space 1297 01:55:53,260 --> 01:55:56,740 where we need the resources that we can continue 1298 01:55:56,740 --> 01:55:59,620 to help meet the needs of our people. 1299 01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,580 We want to thank you for the work that you have done, staff. 1300 01:56:02,580 --> 01:56:04,320 Thank you for the work you have done. 1301 01:56:04,540 --> 01:56:05,880 But we can't continue to wait. 1302 01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:08,060 Now I have children on a need to bridge 1303 01:56:08,060 --> 01:56:12,460 intense running around with feces all over the place. 1304 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,100 I even get sick. 1305 01:56:14,460 --> 01:56:16,720 I pass through to every single day. 1306 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,440 I can't continue to feed them 1307 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,780 and then provide the necessary resources 1308 01:56:21,780 --> 01:56:28,840 that we need, my church members are now moving underneath that bridge, and it's become 1309 01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:32,240 in major, and we need your help immediately. 1310 01:56:32,820 --> 01:56:38,860 Please figure out a way how we can get some more resources so that at least 10% set aside 1311 01:56:38,860 --> 01:56:43,820 for the faith communities so that we can begin to build capacity and then meet some of the 1312 01:56:43,820 --> 01:56:44,260 needs. 1313 01:56:45,180 --> 01:56:45,980 Thank you. 1314 01:56:47,550 --> 01:56:50,510 Hester Jennings and to Wanda Sherry? 1315 01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:06,420 Thank you, but once again the opportunity to be recognized here and for the work that is so many of you are doing and have done. 1316 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,200 I want to echo a couple of different things. 1317 01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,380 One is what Pastor AG talked about the oversight committee. 1318 01:57:12,260 --> 01:57:18,760 I think it's very prudent and for us to not to look in the rear view mirror in terms of what was done, 1319 01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:23,160 but how do we make sure what gets done is appropriate 1320 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,160 as it has this board has approved. 1321 01:57:26,660 --> 01:57:29,840 Secondarily, I want to echo what Pastor Van Hook said 1322 01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,800 in response to capacity building. 1323 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,760 We know that there's a $750,000 set aside 1324 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,560 that's been set for the building of the faith-based, 1325 01:57:38,580 --> 01:57:40,660 small community faith-based organizations, 1326 01:57:41,260 --> 01:57:42,120 building their capacity. 1327 01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:46,540 Now, let's fast forward 21, 22 months from now 1328 01:57:46,540 --> 01:57:49,740 when they have built their capacity, then what? 1329 01:57:51,060 --> 01:57:53,160 There's still nothing there for them. 1330 01:57:53,700 --> 01:57:56,840 After we've spent $750,000 to build their capacity. 1331 01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,140 So we need to address that piece. 1332 01:57:59,820 --> 01:58:03,240 And so what Dr. Van Hook indicated is a set aside. 1333 01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,840 I think it's prudent that we set aside some funds 1334 01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:11,240 post the 21, 22 months so that we can then begin to now, 1335 01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,780 let's take these small faith-based organizations 1336 01:58:13,780 --> 01:58:15,080 to the next level. 1337 01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:16,580 You've supervised the Carlson. 1338 01:58:17,140 --> 01:58:24,580 You, you earlier indicated that there is a number of faith-based organizations and 1339 01:58:24,580 --> 01:58:32,480 churches in the community that already owned land there already have the stumbling block 1340 01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:36,960 taken care of what we need to do is be able to bring those land to the marketplace. 1341 01:58:37,620 --> 01:58:41,380 And so that's what the Bayer Community Benefit organization is really all about. 1342 01:58:41,380 --> 01:59:01,660 And then lastly, I will say that the acquisition and opportunity fund that was spoken about earlier relative to the proposed policy that it's going to be pre-qualified pre-selected developers, a pool of pre-qualified pre-selected developers. 1343 01:59:01,660 --> 01:59:06,180 I think that it should not be pre-qualified pre-selected. 1344 01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:10,740 I think that they all need to be qualified, but I think that it should be open to anyone 1345 01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:15,940 and everyone that meets the qualifications and not just to a pool that's already pre-selected 1346 01:59:15,940 --> 01:59:23,280 because then again, we're closing out so many others that have the ability to take advantage 1347 01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:23,740 of that. 1348 01:59:23,780 --> 01:59:24,600 Thank you very much. 1349 01:59:29,020 --> 01:59:32,880 Elaine Brown and Ali Khashani. 1350 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,520 Good morning, Supervisor Chan and Supervisor Carps. 1351 01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:37,780 Carson and staff. 1352 01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:39,660 My name is Tawanda Sherry. 1353 01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:41,160 I'm an East Oakland resident. 1354 01:59:41,660 --> 01:59:43,540 I'm a member of several housing organizations. 1355 01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:47,680 But I'm coming here because I'm concerned about this proposal. 1356 01:59:48,660 --> 01:59:51,620 And especially the Homeowner Housing Development Program. 1357 01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:57,520 That says that there's an increment of 80% area medium. 1358 01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,960 Right now, I live in East Oph. 1359 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,540 And the average income is about $32,000 a year. Many people will not qualify for this housing development 1360 02:00:09,540 --> 02:00:17,920 that takes place. So I would really like for you to consider at least lowering that to 50 percent. Some 1361 02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:28,320 level, so that people like my son, that's his dream. He said, Mom, I want a house in Oakland. But he 1362 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:34,900 day I'm going to school. So he has this dream and that's our youth want to have a future here. 1363 02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:41,240 So we don't want it to be displaced and out on the street. We want it to be in housing. They 1364 02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:46,400 should have a right and people should have a right to housing. The other portion I want to address 1365 02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:54,480 is the Tier 1 developers. Right now, it looks like to me that the Tier 1 developers, you have to have 1366 02:00:54,480 --> 02:01:00,900 three already developed developments already in place and right now it's to me 1367 02:01:00,900 --> 02:01:05,920 that same seems like the glass ceiling. Now as an African-American we've seen 1368 02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:11,280 this glass ceiling a lot of times. That glass ceiling has not allowed us to to go 1369 02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:16,980 beyond and to attain things we need in the community. Churches and community 1370 02:01:16,980 --> 02:01:24,460 based organizations need to be able to qualify and be able to build the kind of 1371 02:01:24,460 --> 02:01:30,900 especially in Oakland. Oakland is a crisis level. You see it. You smell it sometimes. 1372 02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:36,540 People have a right to housing. We have a surplus land at the state of California 1373 02:01:36,540 --> 02:01:43,560 that states that surplus land should be offered up for affordable housing first. 1374 02:01:44,020 --> 02:01:49,320 We should make sure we implement that. So if you have to, we can get creative 1375 02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:55,220 about how we do that, even if you might want to also require or ask people who want this 1376 02:01:55,220 --> 02:01:58,680 housing, do you want to help build it, especially the form of incarcerated? 1377 02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:03,680 We have housing here, but we also have things that can be developed. 1378 02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:05,840 So I hope that you look at this. 1379 02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:07,220 Thank you very much. 1380 02:02:09,900 --> 02:02:10,100 Okay. 1381 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:11,200 Lane Brown and Ollie. 1382 02:02:18,660 --> 02:02:19,200 I don't know. 1383 02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:21,420 I don't know if it's permissible to yield time. 1384 02:02:21,620 --> 02:02:22,380 So I want to ask that. 1385 02:02:22,460 --> 02:02:24,080 I'd like to yield my time. 1386 02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:25,860 Yeah, we normally don't do that. 1387 02:02:26,260 --> 02:02:26,420 Okay. 1388 02:02:26,660 --> 02:02:28,060 Well, if you'd like to speak, you can. 1389 02:02:28,060 --> 02:02:32,760 I'll just say one quick thing, I represent Oakland in the World Enterprise, and we are trying to build housing, 1390 02:02:33,820 --> 02:02:40,060 which does not deny formerly incarcerated people or people with limited credit and 100% affordable. 1391 02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:49,760 And so we certainly advocate for there to be kinds of suggestions in terms of oversight and in terms of consideration of certain populations getting their housing. 1392 02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:55,780 So I don't want to say much more than that. I was hoping to yield my time to our project manager, but thank you very much. 1393 02:02:55,780 --> 02:02:57,280 supervisor, Chan, and Carson. 1394 02:03:02,340 --> 02:03:03,120 Thank you. 1395 02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:08,140 Good morning. 1396 02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:09,560 My name is Ali Khashani. 1397 02:03:10,660 --> 02:03:13,920 I haven't appeared before you before, my first time. 1398 02:03:14,780 --> 02:03:18,020 I have been in the housing, non-profit housing, 1399 02:03:18,500 --> 02:03:20,260 development industry for 20 years, 1400 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,580 and in the private market for about 10 years. 1401 02:03:23,340 --> 02:03:25,080 I have a degree in civil engineering 1402 02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:27,160 and a master's in non-profit administration. 1403 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,680 Most of my work has been in the East Bay. 1404 02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:38,800 And I'd like to acknowledge the pressure you're under as decision makers for this enormous 1405 02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:39,980 American housing emergency. 1406 02:03:40,340 --> 02:03:45,560 We have, on the one hand, you have people under the bridges, on the other you have existing 1407 02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:50,100 non-profits with their projects that need money, and on the other you have to really think 1408 02:03:51,380 --> 02:03:57,940 about developing an oversight and a process that's fair and equitable as you disperse 1409 02:03:57,940 --> 02:03:59,420 the $580 million. 1410 02:04:01,060 --> 02:04:05,840 My letter addresses four areas that I would like to bring to your attention. 1411 02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:08,300 The staff work has been comprehensive. 1412 02:04:09,300 --> 02:04:13,660 I have, today, I've heard a lot of good comments from Linda about changes that have been made, 1413 02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:17,500 but I don't think we're ready to adopt the policy implementations. 1414 02:04:19,340 --> 02:04:24,200 I want to talk about the community oversight committee. 1415 02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:30,460 citizens over site committee first. Back in 1990, when Lonnie Hancock was mayor of Berkeley, 1416 02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:39,740 I helped her write the housing trust fund guidelines for Berkeley. In that, we created two levels 1417 02:04:39,740 --> 02:04:46,120 of oversight. An application goes to city staff, then it's referred to housing advisory commission, 1418 02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:53,860 which is appointed by the council. The council also created a technical advisory committee, 1419 02:04:53,860 --> 02:05:00,000 because the commission did not really understand the complexity of the housing issues and the housing fine. 1420 02:05:03,100 --> 02:05:14,880 I think we've been trying to get moving through something for May as we have always worked through. We've been starting with our normal documents. So I think we've beat this. 1421 02:05:25,380 --> 02:05:32,300 Let's reflect that we've been joined by, remember, Chuck's War and Galvin. 1422 02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:37,240 Thank you for your late, late, but here. 1423 02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:38,980 Are we starting a couple of horses now? 1424 02:05:38,980 --> 02:05:42,360 No, our next item is fair. 1425 02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:45,980 So before we go, do we have any other comments on one? 1426 02:05:47,220 --> 02:05:48,200 I have no online. 1427 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,040 And no comments on one. 1428 02:05:50,300 --> 02:05:50,560 Okay. 1429 02:05:50,740 --> 02:05:51,720 Thank you very much. 1430 02:05:51,980 --> 02:05:54,040 So now we can move on to item six. 1431 02:05:54,780 --> 02:05:57,280 The fair penalty proposed contract on the list. 1432 02:05:58,660 --> 02:05:59,960 So I will kick us out. 1433 02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:02,720 We cost staff for the county administrators office. 1434 02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,480 We have been in discussions. 1435 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:14,360 And when I say we just a couple of us with Jerome regarding the 2017 contract that we have 1436 02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:16,900 between the county and the association. 1437 02:06:18,020 --> 02:06:26,260 The county put together some recommended changes based on a number of areas permitting code 1438 02:06:26,260 --> 02:06:30,300 compliance, meeting transparency, communication protocols. 1439 02:06:30,300 --> 02:06:36,420 And we had a number of edits that we wanted to make to the current contract. 1440 02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:44,700 We presented that to Jerome and Council, had a fairly productive meeting we walked through 1441 02:06:44,700 --> 02:06:54,240 all of the proposed changes, cumulsed line by line, Jerome and went through and provided 1442 02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:56,060 some comments back. 1443 02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:01,740 And right now, we are kind of far apart in where we are landing. 1444 02:07:02,340 --> 02:07:08,620 And so today, we know that the contract needs to be renewed by the end of September. 1445 02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:13,360 It's an automatic renewal because we would like to make these amendments. 1446 02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:17,920 We're making a proposal that we extend our turn. 1447 02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:20,400 I'll let Council kind of talk through that. 1448 02:07:20,540 --> 02:07:26,040 But at this point, we need more time to negotiate and discuss the changes that both the fairs 1449 02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:29,860 Association is requesting and that the community is requesting. 1450 02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:32,600 Can we refer us out? 1451 02:07:32,660 --> 02:07:33,800 Turn it over you. 1452 02:07:34,180 --> 02:07:36,220 And so the current spectrum of the contract, 1453 02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:40,720 which is entering into a September of 17, 1454 02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:42,140 for a five-year turn, 1455 02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:43,040 a test automatic, 1456 02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:45,500 and really five-year turn. 1457 02:07:45,780 --> 02:07:47,500 There's a one-year, 1458 02:07:47,500 --> 02:07:49,300 non-realistic, 1459 02:07:49,300 --> 02:07:51,400 that starts to know a little period 1460 02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:53,780 for that last year. 1461 02:07:53,780 --> 02:08:05,900 And the current turn is in September of 27, and so we're going to do all of this at the end of this month. 1462 02:08:07,260 --> 02:08:08,480 It's 10 to 30 years. 1463 02:08:09,260 --> 02:08:16,500 And so that's not a lot of time for us to work through the many proposed changes. 1464 02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:21,420 And some of our quite complicated, we have a very productive discussion. 1465 02:08:21,420 --> 02:08:28,740 And the proposal that the county's before it is to get us out from under this September 1466 02:08:28,740 --> 02:08:37,060 30th of November, we won't notice and give the county a right to terminate between now 1467 02:08:37,060 --> 02:08:40,960 and the end of the 2020-2020-2070. 1468 02:08:43,180 --> 02:08:51,220 And the termination was that those were out, and it started one year, one now here. 1469 02:08:52,320 --> 02:09:00,680 And the idea is that it gives us another year to negotiate without having to pull the trigger on. 1470 02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:09,960 I understand that as Lord is explaining there's a lot of some accounting side in having more. 1471 02:09:15,020 --> 02:09:17,320 So why are we so far apart? 1472 02:09:17,940 --> 02:09:23,640 What police describe the conversations that staff to staff have had? 1473 02:09:24,180 --> 02:09:27,940 And one concern I have is if we just continue to have discussions and 1474 02:09:27,940 --> 02:09:29,580 discuss and can't get to anywhere. 1475 02:09:29,980 --> 02:09:33,840 But by the way, I don't characterize them as so much in negotiations. 1476 02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:38,820 We are up against a timeframe for giving the determination of this. 1477 02:09:38,820 --> 02:09:50,820 So, why are we here and how far are we apart and what are we apart on terms and why are we apart on that? 1478 02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:57,680 Based on the discussions that we've had and I'm guessing this is with Jerome any board members? 1479 02:09:59,180 --> 02:09:59,960 Just staff to... 1480 02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:26,000 So county staff provided input on some of the proposed changes, but they have not been involved in the conversation directly with Jerome and Steve. So it's been council on both sides and then Jerome and I have a conversation for people for people. 1481 02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:28,480 purposefully working people. 1482 02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:49,020 I would say that the discussions have centered around, really, I would say more clarity around roles responsibilities who's doing what, both on the county side but also on the fair side, being very transparent about meetings. 1483 02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:58,780 I am low to go into all of the specific details because it's pretty exhaustive, but we wanted 1484 02:10:58,780 --> 02:11:02,700 to make sure that we were very clear in writing what our communication protocols were 1485 02:11:02,700 --> 02:11:09,120 going to be if there are plans on the fair side to make any changes on the property who 1486 02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:19,000 they are supposed to contact when they are supposed to contact the county and how they should 1487 02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:24,860 bit in our proposal around the budgeting process and trying to be more transparent, you know, 1488 02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:29,740 we're always kind of at this, I would say last minute, I've only been doing this a little 1489 02:11:29,740 --> 02:11:37,060 less than a year, but in that time it's kind of a rush to get the budget approved by our board 1490 02:11:37,060 --> 02:11:42,240 after it's been approved by the Fair Board, so we wanted to set up some very specific timelines 1491 02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:46,740 by which we would do that. We looked at the structure of the committee. 1492 02:11:46,740 --> 02:12:02,100 We looked at how the committee is, I mean, we call it an ad hoc committee, but is it really an ad hoc committee, it's pretty, by definition, it's not ad hoc because we need on a fairly regular basis. 1493 02:12:02,580 --> 02:12:07,460 So the idea was to create a bit more clarity from the county's perspective. 1494 02:12:07,460 --> 02:12:15,580 I can let Jerome speak to some of the issues that the fair and I would say Jerome representing 1495 02:12:15,580 --> 02:12:22,000 the fair with they included in their proposal of recommended changes. 1496 02:12:24,060 --> 02:12:35,180 Before you do that, I just wanted to clarify staff and Andrew, without getting into who said 1497 02:12:35,180 --> 02:12:41,440 in our closed sessions, you receive direction from our board. When you make requests 1498 02:12:42,460 --> 02:12:49,340 to be changes to the contract, that didn't come from you making it up. It didn't come from any 1499 02:12:49,340 --> 02:12:55,000 board member making it up. It came from our board. Well, first of all, I thought the board wanted 1500 02:12:55,000 --> 02:13:01,420 to know what's specifically we wanted to have changed. I don't know that. I mean, I thought we were 1501 02:13:01,420 --> 02:13:08,160 We're taking a look at stuff, and I'm sure I'm clear on the provisions what we're actually talking about. 1502 02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:09,760 I've never been disclosed. 1503 02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:12,840 I think there are two kind of broad themes here. 1504 02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:17,620 One is this contract's been in place for nine years. 1505 02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:19,540 And so it is staff level. 1506 02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:23,600 There's a lot of experience with the agreement. 1507 02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:27,600 A lot of things in 2017. 1508 02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:34,640 And anything that you made better in their things that haven't worked as intended, and so 1509 02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:39,760 make it to changes to make the agreement work better, so the party's function better 1510 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:40,780 together. 1511 02:13:42,300 --> 02:13:50,180 The other things we received, direction from your board, board supervisors, specifically to 1512 02:13:50,180 --> 02:13:57,580 seek changes regarding code deployance and permit, considering that, and so that has 1513 02:13:57,580 --> 02:14:03,320 been a big part of the proposed changes that were made and we started that discussion. 1514 02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:11,640 You know, I'd say the coke clients, communication, that was too great. 1515 02:14:12,700 --> 02:14:19,840 I think those are pretty broad and dull as there are a lot of changes and transparency, governance, 1516 02:14:20,620 --> 02:14:25,420 and coordinating all the things that Hory mentioned came to us in a meeting. 1517 02:14:25,420 --> 02:14:36,540 Yeah, and so I'd say that in any negotiation there's an information gathering process and so we have grown a lot of things at 1518 02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:49,820 growing and safe to to take in and consider and our meeting lasted over two hours and all we did was walk through a lot of questions 1519 02:14:49,820 --> 02:14:56,560 we're asked a lot of information gathering. I think we're in a pretty good stage. We'll talk 1520 02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:59,540 you in a stir. I certainly learned a lot. Thank you. 1521 02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:07,380 We're speaking with COVID-19 and we've just got a feedback on some of the things that we had to come up with. 1522 02:15:07,820 --> 02:15:15,140 Even if there are initiatives the Board of Supervisors once in the contract, how that is done, how that is structured, how it's written. 1523 02:15:16,420 --> 02:15:23,560 We need feedback from the Association, they operate, facilitate, they have their own internal operation of their organization 1524 02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:29,840 and we need information for them to make sure that we are going to contract the original way 1525 02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:33,960 that makes sense and we are not dictating the day. 1526 02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:36,260 And we are going to allow it so far apart, Andrew. 1527 02:15:37,460 --> 02:15:39,860 Because we are going to do that one meeting. 1528 02:15:40,620 --> 02:15:42,940 I think that's why we are so far apart and we are meeting. 1529 02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:53,540 And I agree with whether the meeting will be a closer than that is on the... 1530 02:15:53,540 --> 02:16:02,000 30 have done newly, so we can have space for further conversations and I view this in 1531 02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:14,240 lieu of issuing a termination notice. The proposal is to agree to in good faith, continue 1532 02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:24,860 our discussions. I would put a time-bound deadline of a month or two, not another year of discussions, 1533 02:16:26,460 --> 02:16:36,760 my thoughts. Keep meeting, get it done, that we can feel good. I can feel good about not outright 1534 02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:55,950 to determine it. Accepting a proposal to negotiate a good faith, that's post quickly and get to the end and if we're still off on terms and I would say that I'm guessing you're going to be briefing our board.