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good evening thank you for attended the
city of Al Board of commissioner special

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meeting for the month of November Monday
November the 6 2023 6 p.m. at the alma

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City Hall I'll call a meeting to order
please stand for the pledge of alleans

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and the

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invocation I pledge deligance to the
flag flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic for which it
stands one nation under God indivisible

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with liberty and justice for
all would you Len pray uh yes please bow

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your heads dear heaven hely father we
ask that you be with our mayor and City

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commission as they deliberate on City
business we ask that you please continue

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to protect our city employees our First
Responders and their families in your

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mighty name we pray amen

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amen item C presentations and
announcements yes mayor this evening um

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I just have two announcements we have
election day tomorrow just so everyone

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knows it's from 7:00 a.m. to 7: p.m. and
on Friday the the 10th I'm sorry we will

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be closed in observance of Veterans
Day okay um mayor Commissioners uh city

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manager I would like to recognize uh one
of our our student athletes here at PJ

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Memorial uh he participated in our
summer program uh Taff this summer and

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uh and uh he was uh uh n uh nominated uh
for a u local athlete of the year he he

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also when once he got uh that nomination
he qualified for regional athlete of the

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year and with that saying uh uh Mr J
Pettis senior here at P psj mamor he won

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the State athlete of the Year award from
Taff the Taff

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games

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congratulations congratulations coach
you want to come coach J

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just kind of little little bio for Mr
Jay

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ptis oh there you go Mr Miss Bettis
welcome to the city city council meeting

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uh uh so this is coach sepa and and
Coach uh Salazar is the uh we're just

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going a little little bio about uh Mr J
Pettis here J Pettis has been playing

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tennis since it was in sixth grade and
is and is now now uh becoming a senior

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at PJ Memorial High School Jay is one of
those honest players and most respectful

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players in all of South Texas all of the
players admire and look up to him he has

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an amazing professional attitude and his
fighting efforts are great to see out in

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the court he's he is a great student
captain of the High School tennis team

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and is like a third coach on our on the
tennis team he's always stries to help

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to improve uh his teammates he has
participated in TS the last years Co was

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his ninth grade year last year at Tav he
won the boys 18 singles gold and 18 boy

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18 boys silver and doubles as a
16-year-old this year at tff he won Gold

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in both 18 doubles and singles Jay has
been n named MVP three years in a row uh

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in in 5A for the school he plays for phj
memor High School ladies and gentlemen

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Mr Jay Pettis oh
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conations awesome
job

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coach

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uh would like to invite the parents up
front Mr mpes and also would like to

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recognize our one of our assistant
principles Miss Gonzalez from the P

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Moore that's here to represent the
school district thank you Miss gonalez

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for coming out here and Mr M ptis
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congratulations

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two

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Mr Miss Pettis congratulations again you
have a great boy there

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congratulations congratulations
congratulations good job great job thank

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you for coming thank

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you that's it okay item D consideration
action to approve the minutes for a

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regular meeting on October 17 2023
motion to approve second second we

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approve oppose motion carries item me
consider action to approve the renewal

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of Lamar billboard contract yes mayor
the current billboard contract with

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Lamar is set to expire November 13th the
renewal contract will run from November

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14 2023 to November 11 2024 the contract
will keep the same flat rate of

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5885 for the year and includes an
additional $2,000

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two
$26 for the new artwork uh that will be

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produced to feature the new city logo
the Billboards are located Facing East

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at the north side of the
expressway uh on 493 and Donna and then

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west
facing uh the

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East uh on Cesar Chavez the um they
receive an average of

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81884 weekly Impressions the Billboards
are used to advertise a hotel motel HS

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in the area staff recommends approval on
this item so Bobby do we uh does a hotel

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motel tax pay for this or yes sir that's
where we come from yes sir I think I

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asked about it last year to find out is
there a way to

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like as far as number-wise return on the
investment is there is there something

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other than the
88,000 weekly Impressions right the only

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the only thing we have is like how many
people get to see

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the the 818 as far as having an Roi on
it a specific number on that um I'm sure

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Lamar can can do that they can come back
and and let us know but I think last

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time they did do the same thing and we
ended up approving the uh can we

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um can we take a look if this does get
approved can we take a look to um

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revamping that because it just there's
not a lot of color to it there's not a

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lot of if you see the one it will
include that yeah it's really OB

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yes it's I think I mentioned that last
year too and it it that's uh what this

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uh contract will include it's another
$2,000 that will put in the new logo and

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it'll be it'll be new basically new face
do you have like something as how it

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would look or do we have anything um I
don't think anything was included in the

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packet can we can we table that till can
can Lamar provide something to us before

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we approve
this um type of money yeah

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vot can I make a motion to table second
second that we table person FCI I motion

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carries item F consider action to
approve new job description for media

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specialist uh yes attach you'll see a
job description for a media specialist

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this is a person that would uh help the
public information uh director uh and

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his job responsibilities which would
include photography uh social media

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producing film editing video uh creating
graphics fix

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Etc this would be for the new position
that was approved in our budget are

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there some numbers that you're
recommending Bobby say it again sir are

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there some numbers that you were
recommending as far as a a salary I

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believe we were saying $13 an hour which
comes out to 44,000 most

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um I don't think there's no way that $13
an hour will be $44,000 yeah not at all

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27 27 motion to approve second the
second we have represent FCI hi motion

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carries just one one more thing I know
that uh uh he's going to help uh him or

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her that uh uh with the public relations
um off office right in other words um if

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he's going to help him like a time off
whatever yes the whole reason behind it

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was in order to allow for the director
to be able to be in in one area or a

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take time off and then this person would
handle a lot of things on the site I

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think that will cover a lot of the City
area cuz I know it it might Al seem

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small but actually it's pretty big so
but great thought that we're we're

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coming up with this position yes sir
okay item G consideration action to

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approve a contract renewal between the
city of Alamo and Valley Initiative for

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development investment Inc vaita uh yes
mayor the city of Alamo has been in

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partnership with vaita for several years
the city annually approves a contract

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with vaita that authorizes a sum of
$12,500 that'll be used to promoting

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encouraging training and development for
of animal residents to help create a a

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competent Workforce which will benefit
new or expanded business enterprises

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this contract will allow the city of
animal and VA to continue the

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partnership staff recommends approval
Bobby is there a way that we can um I

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guess publicize more of this to to our
residents on our City website I know

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this is a very good program to to uh
help uh people get educated and get a

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better job uh but I like I like to see
this more on our social media page and

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promoting it um is there somebody here
from representative from there I don't

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believe a rep from Vias here but we
could have our uh public information

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director get something out in regards to
that and also get with VA and just to

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explain how this program works because I
know it it's helped out uh some friends

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of mine and also some family members uh
go back to school and get a better job

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um so if if we can maybe somehow get
this information out to the public

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okay motion to approve second second
have

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appros motion carries item H consider
action a resolution for street closure

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Business 83 and FM 907 for the annual
city of Christmas parade Friday December

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the 8th 20123 and use of downtown
Central Park stage yes mayor and

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commission this is our annual resolution
for street closure as well as the use of

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downtown stage uh we take place at the
same location starting at HB going south

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on Alamo road then then heading uh East
on Business

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83 do we have a theme yet our theme
is I guess an oldfashioned Christmas

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more of the Vintage retro kind of
Christmas what's the what's the time on

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it we're starting at 6:30 that'll give
kids and staff and parents time to get

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to HB so that way we can start at a
decent time right motion to approve

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second second we approve post motion
carries I I consider action on

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purchasing additional time clocks for
Fire Station 1 aedc wastewater treatment

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plant and City
Hall uh yes mayor Commissioners uh this

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is for the purchase of five additional
time clocks the reason it's before you

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is because the amount is over the
$155,000 Mark I believe it's a total of6

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16,128 89 for these five uh time
clocks okay are these comparable for all

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of them all the like at parks and
everywhere else it's for yeah the fire

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station ADC Waste Water treatment plan
in City okay all right motion to approve

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second second we approve percent ofci by
post motion carries item J consider an

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action and approval of an ordinance
amending the code of ordinance title one

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chapter 6 City officer and employees
section 1- 6-4 Personnel policy

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guidelines uh yes mayor Commissioners in
your packet you will see a revised

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version of our old Personnel policy um I
went ahead and did a couple updates

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regarding
attendance appearance updated holidays

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manual leave uh evaluation city property
and vehicle use equipment uh I'm sorry

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City equipment social media in addition
I had placed an updated highlighted

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regarding um our alcohol and drug policy
um that is again that is updated I went

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ahead and investigate it through
different cities um so I just kind of

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pick kind of what was needed on our end
also there is something that we wanted

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to discuss which is on page
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not a policy but we have a practice of
we do manual leave um if if certain

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employees don't use their vacation time
they tend to roll over however I have

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checked other cities none of the other
cities have it um and speaking with our

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HR and finance director they do prefer
that we do eliminate this

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practice who who uh who who was part of
of adding to this policies and who was

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part
of um was it just you or you the city

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manager did you get the directors
involved was there input from the

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directors as far as maybe what
some concerns they might have uh what

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they see day in and day out that we did
speak to HR and Finance in several

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occasions depending on the topic uh
there was different things in regards to

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uh the drug policy the um I think there
was something about mental awareness yes

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uh there was uh items in regards to like
the our vacation leave where they see

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like well this is this is problematic
for us uh this is how we can see a fix

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for it and so that's what Alex is is
talking about where um right now we have

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it where we actually carry over we allow
a carryover of time and it's either we

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allow this and give them 90 days and now
it's in writing give them 90 days to use

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it or we simply remove that manual leave
aspect to it and just you know either

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use it or lose it you know like a lot of
other cities do it and so that's one

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thing that we wanted to bring before you
and see what you what you thought do we

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have I would just like to make sure that
we CU there's a lot of changes I went

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through the different changes and and
there's just a lot of things that's

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being added on just a quick notice from
you know we got the agenda three days

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ago
um and now we're adding a lot of lot of

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new stuff I would like to possibly sit
down maybe all of us together um

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together with the city commission and
the city staff as directors maybe or who

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you choose to be and and uh really make
sure that we're so you want to have a

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workshop well I would think that maybe
that might be something because like I

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said going through it there's a lot of
red there's a lot of and we just want to

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make sure that every that everything is
going to be you know we're putting the

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employees in a position or the city in a
position where at the end of the day

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we're going to well you put it on paper
sure and we didn't have a lot of time to

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really review review it and ask
questions I think I mean obviously

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you've sent it to Legal um but you know
there's I I don't know if there's still

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a few we could uh table it and and the
next meeting we'll have a workshop

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before the meeting and then we can have
as an action item after the workshop

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Chris I mean is that something as far as
your office I mean I know you you got

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this part of it and and we just really
want to make sure that legals also I

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mean uh I it'll give us I mean I got to
look at it because we we get the packet

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just like you guys but and I so I had to
go through all of it but again um you

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know it's if you want to do the workshop
I think that's a good idea can do it

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before that way at least the entire
commission gets to kind of review the

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because I like I like it I was like I
said I was reading through it I like it

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but there's just a few things that that
I think

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all of us taking part in sit down before
we make this this vote on it uh I think

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we might be a good idea Bobby so
entitlements start when when do they

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start in like the calendar year or how
does it work I'm sorry like your

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carryover entitlements that you have um
so it depends on the I believe it goes

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by anniversary date and so from then on
it you get a certain number of hours per

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year and then once it hits your
anniversary date if you don't use your

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vacation by then you'll lose it so you
mean the anniversary when you first

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started working when you first started
working correct oh so it's not like at

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the begin calendar year no it's not how
many hours do they get per uh per year

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it depends it depends on the the amount
of time that they're with a city um if

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they're with the city I believe it's one
to five

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years they get 80 hours one to five
years and then from 5 to is it

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10 and it it increases more gradually
until so if they don't just to say for

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example uh year one they use no vacation
time year two it's going to roll over

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all
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setan
accumulation system say

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have 8 hours

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it'ss oh
that's got

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it that's that was one that's just one
one one just one example one part of

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this that I would like to see I mean I
would think at 15 years and over um

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there's no incentive for the people who
have the employees who have been here

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over 20 years 25 years May maybe that
maybe we could add something to that

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part too and not just max it they if
it's over I think they get four weeks

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it's four weeks 20 days but if you got
an employee who's given the city 25

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years maybe we can give a little bit
just that's just an example of what I

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was reading through that I think if we
sit down and talk about some of this

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stuff okay um well uh we could table it
and then we'll have a workshop in our

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next meeting and then we'll have an
action item uh after that okay I'll make

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a motion to table second second the we
tables presentent FCI why motion

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carries okay now we go to public hearing
public hearing a conditional use permit

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to have a mobile food vending structure
and commercially zoned property South

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7324 North 439 98 West 594 lot 9 block
40 Alamo Land insur Company subdivision

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B 934 North s Chavez c commercial zoning
District applicant AA Del Rosario inia

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de
Leon yes good afternoon uh with regard

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to this public hearing item um let's see
if we can get some exhibits on the there

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you go the subject site is really about
located 300 feet south of 495 along the

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east side of uh Cesar Chavez the Alamo
site if you will it does have a mechanic

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shop if you will you may recall we had a
similar cup an identical cup for Mr

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Hernandez which was a property owner
that went well but you know he's busy so

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uh we have a new applicant uh for the
um with pretty much the same conditions

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if you will days and hours of operation
are noted in the write up there's one

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hydrant just outside the the gate that
will service the the property we did

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hold a public hearing with the with the
planning zoning Commission on the 18th

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of October no was no opposition at all
the applicant did appear at that time

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because we didn't have any problems when
Mr erandis was was there we don't

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foresee anything as well uh you know it
should run smoothly a lot of the

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clientele we suspect are the workers and
the the clientele that're having their

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vehicles fixes so we kind of a
recommendations for staff goes is for a

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life of use secure business license
course comply with the county health

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codes as far as securing the food
handler certificate or what called

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Health cards and of course meet all
other requirements with regard to the

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food vending codes um pnz and staff are
the same at court and we recommend in

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his favor this is a public hearing this
is a public hearing hearing is the

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applicant

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here

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okay no okay this is a public he Bobby
does does I'm just curious does Code

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Enforcement ever go out and and I guess
go make sure these like like those areas

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are these food vendors are being up to
standards or anything like that or no um

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at a minimum they they do it in the
beginning stages of of when they start

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and then of course the health department
verifies that they're compliance with

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minimum Health requirements County
Health Department the Fire Marshall does

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that as well the the county health
officers go at least once a year not

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more and the Fire Marshall has to go at
least once a

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year thanks this is a public hear and
any other

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comments okay we go to the item item K
consideration action on a conditional

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use perm we have mobile food vending
structure and Commercial e owned

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property South 7334 North
4399 West 594 lot 9 block 40 Alamo Land

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insur Company subdivision being 934
North Cesar Chavez c commercial District

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applicant Ida Rosario Inon make a motion
to approve second second we

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approve motion carries item L
consideration action to discussion and

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possible action ordinance to amend title
10 zoning regulations chapter 2 rules

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and definitions to include definition
definitions for Town housee condomin

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townhouse condomin simply the name of
chapter six from duplex multif family

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townhouse and apartment District to
multif family and townhouse district and

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established regulations for townhouse
uses uh yes just a little bit of

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foundation couple of months ago my
office was a approach about townhouse

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development looking at the zoning code
there we don't have any townhouse RS

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although the district if you will the R2
does indicate duplex multif family

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townhouse and apartment District so one
of the attempts that we the we did here

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is go ahead and and draft it in
ordinance format and provide uh

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townhouse requirements if somebody wants
to build develop a townhouse subdivision

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then these are the rules that staff will
use and impose and enforce during the

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subdivision process one of the things is
May indicated a few moments ago is

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actually just simplifying the name to be
multif family and town housee zoning

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District so that's one of the things
that it does some definitions there as

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well I was surprised to see under the
current Archer zoning District a

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permitted use is hospitals or animal
hospitals in the residential zoning

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District we're going to scratch that out
and actually the next item move it to

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the commercial zoning District whereas I
we believe that would be more

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appropriate of course the meat and
potatoes of the ordinance are the coats

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the setbacks the area requirements and
things of that sort which is listed in

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here we did hold a meeting with the
planning zoning Commission on the 18th

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of October where they viewed uh the uh
the ordinance in detail and uh they

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recommended approval with no changes
actually actually so staff at pnz are on

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the same uht as well in recommending
favor of this

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ordinance second the second we appr c i
motion carries item M consider

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consideration and action to and to
discussion and possible action on an

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ordinance to amend title 10 zoning
regulations chapter 9 commercial

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District to add amend certain permitted
permitted and conditional uses and

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enhancing is building setback Provisions
uh yes noted a few moments ago one of

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the things that we are doing is
extracting the hospitals animal

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hospitals from the R2 inserting it here
pursu to this ordinance it's approved uh

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the other thing we're kind of uh also
trying

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to uh have commercial uses be commercial
not have the risk of having a single

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family home if you will along the
expressway those that are there are

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grandfathered they're honored great we
will support them building permit will

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be issued as well but there was a a new
lot that's commercially zoned

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it should be a little bit more more
challenging to to do um and uh as far as

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the um there's some other minor
adjustments uh as well on the setbacks

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it just kind of does the these front
setback zero the side setback zero uh

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the rear setback 15 however in the
setbacks uh one of the things that staff

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needs to be alerted future staff if you
will is also don't forget to look for

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the easements and don't forget to look
at the plat notes because the specific

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plat note on the recorded subdivision
signed by everybody's a legal instrument

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so that setback prevails over the
general zoning code we just kind of

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enhanced that the the verbiage on
setbacks to alert everybody to just be

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sure to look at that and not make any
inadvertent mistakes if you will uh we

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did take this ordinance to the pnz on
October 18th and they supported it uh

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unanimously and staff is of course
recommending for it as well motion to

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approve second second second Pro pres
motion carries item n consideration

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action to discussion possible action
ordinance amending Title 9 building

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regulations chapter 1 building codes to
add a new regulation for mandatory

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debris containment during construction
new provision being in the building code

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section
9-1-1 A1 residential code section

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9-1-1 D2 A1 and the property maintenance
code section

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9-1-1 D9 A1 uh yes uh really what this
amounts to is that during construction

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they's say some apartments are next to a
vacant field uh they need to have a

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containment area for their debris
liftover Lumber paper shingles whatever

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they're incidentally disposing of you
need to contain it you need to contain

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it and uh some verbiage is in here as
well for Mr V of course to do the the

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the building inspector to do the the the
professional thing and courteous thing

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is you know it's a little messy here
it's is is flying over to the ad joiners

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I'll give you 24 hours of getting it
done and uh if not I'm going to need to

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put a stop work quarter but usually
contractors are are very receptive in

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doing it that way that's the last thing
they want to do is stop uh so that

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verbage is in here also they do seek
professional bins uh dumpster a rolloff

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they must go with the city's uh Solid
Waste provider uh whoever that may be by

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contract uh so this is what this
ordinance does and uh we recommend in

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his favor was there was there not
anything in there before did you just no

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no yeah so it was kind of hard I know
I've called Bobby a couple times about

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it so if if it does pass I just hope
that we we

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enfor if it does occur there's a a
protocol in there as well so that we can

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go ahead and and work with them you know
we don't want to stop the work either

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but you know they do need to be
responsible for the area yeah I think we

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had a perfect example over here south of
the city hall and that's uh something

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that hopefully we can stop from moving
forward correct make a motion to approve

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second second we approve fav say I I
motion carries Mo consider an action to

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to discussion a possible action orders
to amend Title 9 building regulations

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chapter 1 building codes section
9-1-1 d8 electrical quote outlining

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regulations for electrical vehicle
Supply equipment in section 91-1 3F is

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to establish a fee for Ev Port
inspection uh yes this actually came in

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internally to to my attention from staff
apparently there has been some

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electrical vehicle charging stations
built uh in the city and they wanted to

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know about the codes and I said well
what does the code say so they look and

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there isn't any uh it's it's fairly near
if you will and then we discovered in

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the researching process actually there's
a Senate Bill

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10001 that's effective SE September 2023
indicating you know some uh registration

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requirements and safety requirements and
what uh the state uh departments that

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are overseeing if you will and that's
that's great but one of the things that

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this does do is provide the parameters
uh some regulations as to if you're

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going to have an electrical vehicle
charging station use these rules they're

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reasonable uh and uh so uh we believe
that they are I presented these actually

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to C enforcement and the building
inspector building inspector have some

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remarks I went ahead and injected that
in there as well as far as maximizing

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the safety uh for the charging units of
course he he needs to do inspections for

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each charging port uh we kind of thought
25 bucks per Port would be appropriate

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and fair as well so these are um based
on the the statute cities are going to

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need to adopt them I don't think any
other city has them so far um be that as

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it may uh we generated the code here in
Alamo we believe it's fair and we

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recommend in in its favor Mr zala can we
make sure uh also if this one passes

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that uh our employees are properly
trained on on how to uh inspect um these

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charging stations when they're going to
get built and cuz it's like you did say

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it's something new to it's something new
uh I don't know what what training might

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be out there till we can make sure that
um these chain these charging stations

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are being built to exact that's correct
and and what what we do with with Mr

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vaka inspector certainly he um each year
at least want even more he he goes and

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takes some of the training that's
required this I'm sure is going to be

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one of the the topics because this is
fairly new but it does have to be under

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control really the whole purpose is just
to make make sure it's safe and for us

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to to be trained to to doing it
correctly so I'll be sure when the train

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is available to to send them off make a
motion to approve second second we

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approve of FCI I motion carries item P
consideration action uh consideration

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and action to discussion and possible
action to men Title 11 subdivision

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regulations chapter 3 design standards
and required land Improvement section

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11- 3-15 parks and other public use by
adding a new provision to require Park

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frees during the permit process for non-
residentially Zone planted properties

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where Park fees were not received or
when residential unit increments occur

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through sundry zoning
regulations uh yes what uh the city of

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Alamo imposes Park fees during the
subdivision process if it's 100 lot

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single family we we impose 100 times the
park fee value if it does have a

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frontage uh of commercial component if
you will along a major Street we don't

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impose Park fees for that or any
commercially Zone lot the reason for

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that is because there's a reasonable
expectation the commercially Zone lot

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will be used for commercial purposes
however there is a risk of commercially

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owned properties uh being used for
residential purposes either through a

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rezoning or through a conditional use
permit or some other process if you will

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when that happens we're out Park fees
because we should have gotten those Park

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fees during the subdivision process what
this legislation does is when that

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happens the city will be made whole we
didn't secure it two years ago when the

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subdivision was was recorded but since
you reone the property uh to multif

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family residential and you're going to
put 25 Apartments I need those Park fees

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if you will now uh we're going to put
one of the things that this does have is

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a plat note that indicates that for any
reason uh any commercially non

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commercially Zone lot be rezoned or used
for residential purposes the city you

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know will St to impose those Park fees
so that we can be made whole the whole

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purpose of the park fee is that
developer is generating inviting

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families to to live and reside in Alma
which is great but these uh families

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also have to recreate someplace and it's
logical that the developer should go

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ahead or owner should go ahead and and
be part of the process in giving the

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city some money to um improve our
amenities the you know the parking

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amenities and things of that sort more
swings or whatever the case is so this

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ordinance actually safeguards us to be
sure that we're not missing

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out how
much how soon are those Park fees

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uh uh received they are received before
the plat is recorded before the in a in

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a normal setting uh if you want your sub
and and they know already up front we

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give them a list this is what you need
to to record the your subdivision you

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know tax shts and things of that sort an
approved drainage report from the County

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Drainage District don't forget the park
fees as well uh it's 20 L time $500

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which is the the prevailing rate so make
the check out to the city of Alamo all

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right so before they record the plat
mayor signs it and everybody else signs

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it but I can't take it to get recorded
unless they get those Park fees and to

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be perfectly Frank with you the park fee
check is usually the first thing they

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they give us anyway so what uh does that
just go into the general fund is that

416
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:23,559
that goes into no sir so how how how
much do we have in there I think Sandra

417
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:32,720
or
so when can we put that to work yeah

418
00:45:29,319 --> 00:45:39,680
yeah yes throughout the year um Sandra's
been using that fund okay to you know

419
00:45:36,839 --> 00:45:44,040
fix roofs uh add amenities add add
certain things to the existing parks

420
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:47,599
that we have okay so U that's what she's
been

421
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:51,920
doing to to answer your your question
that it does not go into the general

422
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:55,559
fund those Park fees go into a park fund
and can only be used for Park purposes

423
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,359
and just because isn't a park fund
doesn't that you can use it for just

424
00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:04,640
flat out maintenance if you will they
need to be used to improve uh the

425
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:08,760
amenities adding more or if something's
falling down replacing it things of that

426
00:46:07,319 --> 00:46:13,000
sort
so things like And in regards to

427
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,880
commercial you say there's no fees if
it's commercially zone right right up

428
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,599
front I don't collect Park fees again
because we we expect and we want it to

429
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:25,280
use it for commercial purposes but just
in case it does get rezoned or used in

430
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,240
some sort of fashion for residential
purposes

431
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:33,240
then the plot note and will hit and we
will need to get that as a part of the

432
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:38,520
building permit
process right make a motion to approve

433
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:43,079
second Mo to second we approv present c
i motion carries item Q consider an

434
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:47,680
action to discussion and possible action
to amend title 8 Public Utilities

435
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:52,960
chapter 1 water use and service section
8-1-3 water use regulations to have

436
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:56,359
owner agent pay incidental service and
material cost for additional water

437
00:46:54,359 --> 00:47:00,079
meters in the building process and to
include that that the owner agent be

438
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:04,599
responsible to repair damage utility
infrastructure reimburse the city for

439
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:11,839
the reparation
work uh yes um last week my office was

440
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:18,280
approached by uh by Public Works uh in
regard to a subdivision That was

441
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,800
supposed to have just one 2in meter for
let's say fourplex and then during the

442
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:26,680
process of
construction the contractor owner of the

443
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:31,280
apartment blot the construction indicate
you know what I'd rather have four

444
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,720
meters so it seems that there's no
regulation I think this when the city

445
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:41,240
was doing that they were actually eating
the cost for the for meters uh I said

446
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:46,319
okay the other thing that was that was
brought to my attention when I talked to

447
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:51,760
Julio and Mel from water billing was the
issue of uh sometimes they inadvertently

448
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:56,160
bust our water lines or water systems
and they need to be fixed up as soon as

449
00:47:53,599 --> 00:48:00,800
possible is there anything in the Cod
when you fix it to get reimbursed with

450
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:07,079
or whatever so what this ordinance does
is it shuts those windows down um

451
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:12,119
whatever the city has to be made whole
it is unjust for the city to be the

452
00:48:09,319 --> 00:48:17,400
taxpayers to being the incurring a cost
that is not reimbursable by by uh the

453
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:20,880
landlords or the owners of Apartments
whoever wants an additional water met it

454
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:25,240
should pay for it that happens in every
other City this is what this does what

455
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:29,480
you want that's fine you need to pay up
front then we'll see it and then we'll

456
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,680
get it installed also the other
component is if if you bust our lines we

457
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:37,319
got to fix it if not I'll fix it because
it's an emergency it's a water leak but

458
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:42,200
there's going to be a cost involved then
a detailed uh invoice will be presented

459
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:46,800
by public work to the owner uh to go
ahead and getting it reimbursed if not

460
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:50,960
it may impede a final occupancy final
approval and of course the city always

461
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:57,000
has the arm if needed to use Municipal
Court we don't use that as said like a

462
00:48:54,240 --> 00:49:00,799
last resort but but that's there anyway
so this is what that ordinance does I

463
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:05,280
did present this to Public Works who a
director who is here to Mel as well as

464
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:10,920
far as the verbage got a little bit
changed a bit I think was improved and

465
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:16,240
we recommend in its favor Bobby uh like
these lines that we have like an LA

466
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:20,079
palasio subdivision I know it's water
from North Alama water right but we're

467
00:49:17,799 --> 00:49:24,680
still responsible any any busted lines
in that area

468
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:29,760
right no if the lines are busted the
north Al they will take care of it what

469
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:33,680
okay what about the ones on 495 the NOA
divisions are same thing it's on the

470
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:38,000
south side of 495 it would be us if it's
on the north side of 495 it would be

471
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:43,799
them
okay make motion to approve second

472
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:48,880
second all in favor say I I motion
carries item R consider an accent to

473
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,079
request by Dollar Tree stored through
colore LLC to have the Board of

474
00:49:50,839 --> 00:49:56,160
Commissioners authorize the city
manager's office to issue a building

475
00:49:54,319 --> 00:50:01,920
permit prior to full subdivision
compliance on property on 1.29 acre

476
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:07,119
tract out of lot 6 block 32 Al Land
insur Company subdivision uh yes if you

477
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:11,240
can look at the vicinity map or the uh
over here in the are over here it's

478
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:16,520
about 1100 ft I believe north of Ridge
Road and on the North side you know

479
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:22,000
where Mr hess's properties is at that's
it uh one of the things that uh you know

480
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:26,880
we want to work with with with
commercial uh prospects we do that all

481
00:50:24,799 --> 00:50:30,880
the time that's as much as possible we
work with you but we do have ordinances

482
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:36,240
we do have laws that we need to comply
with so at the end of the day just meet

483
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:39,480
our CS so and that's so the the request
has been made that we have issued I

484
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:45,400
think the last one that we issued was
Dutch brothers that went very well uh

485
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:50,680
they activated their business very
attractive as well now one of the things

486
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:56,280
they did file a subdivision the ISS not
the issue the um observation by staff

487
00:50:53,960 --> 00:51:00,160
was that the engineers are for from
Mississippi uh tomorrow morning I just

488
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:05,400
got with Ronnie before the meeting
started we're going to have a a phone

489
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:10,480
call with the representative of the of
the Dollar Tree his name is Adam Brer a

490
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:15,559
nice fell talked with him a few times so
but we need to talk with each other uh

491
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:21,000
they only filed the plat no utilities
nothing of that sort uh they have filed

492
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:24,880
the plans to build a store but before we
go there we need to look at the

493
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:29,000
foundation of the subdivision because in
the sub division they haven't even

494
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:32,280
extracted the required ride of way off
of Alamo Road they just this is our

495
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,720
property and this is what we're going to
subdivide so well so the first thing

496
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:41,960
cities do is extract the rideway
especially on state roads to the m

497
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,839
Thorofare map and we need an additional
10 ft so their footprint needs to be

498
00:51:44,359 --> 00:51:50,480
adjusted back or forth U that's for
their call so we need to uh one of the

499
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:57,960
other observations if you look at the
map here is that this is the parent

500
00:51:53,720 --> 00:52:03,359
tract do the overall tract Mr H is here
and he's conveyed the let's say the East

501
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:08,760
component having access to the public
Street to Dollar he is landlocked they

502
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:14,119
have provided what's marked in red as a
driveway access easement code is either

503
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:18,400
take the street to the lot or the lot to
the street kind of like Oklahoma shap

504
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:21,599
this is what they chose to do I don't
know they needs to follow that process

505
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:25,640
because there's a viance request there
has to be one uh so that has to be

506
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,440
presented to the plan is on the
commission the city council and that'll

507
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:35,240
be uh part of the recommendation here as
well we want to help them but we need to

508
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,880
uh our recommendation is favorable to
the request we don't object to it but

509
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:44,119
first these are the the five conditions
some of them are similar to the ones

510
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:49,319
we've seen in other other um applicants
the city commission to vote on the

511
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:55,200
driveway versus the street variant we
need to know that as well so that needs

512
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:58,720
to follow protocol uh and the will issue
to the building permit after the noise

513
00:52:56,839 --> 00:53:03,480
to proceed the reason that's important
is because the construction plans would

514
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:07,400
have been seen revised corrected and now
public works and Engineering are fine

515
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:11,280
with the with the infrastructure so here
should we meet with a contractor be sure

516
00:53:09,319 --> 00:53:14,880
that they know what they're doing and
you know our codes our inspection

517
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:20,160
requirements now here's your notice to
proceed that's one and here's your

518
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:24,880
building permit as well the other uh
condition would be no occupancy until

519
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:29,119
the subdivision is recorded um unless
way meet all requirements of the code

520
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:33,599
subdivision code and of course get a
business license to activate that's

521
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:36,520
that's uh basic code this is our
recommendation that's the best we can do

522
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,359
at this point but we do have a
conference call with him tomorrow but

523
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:46,240
mid morning or so is there a a limit on
dollar stores Dollar Tree stores this is

524
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:51,640
just a personal question um that I have
do other cities put a limit on these

525
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:55,880
types of stores do know uh cities don't
typically put a limit on it unless your

526
00:53:53,400 --> 00:54:00,440
ordinance says that usually Dollar Trees
have a certain radius that you know

527
00:53:58,359 --> 00:54:05,280
let's let's not overbuild if you will if
once on uh on one location a quarter

528
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:09,760
mile away let's put another one they
certainly have a a marketing uh gurus

529
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:16,400
that would give them that information
but to answer your question no cities

530
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:22,079
don't typically impose it Mr zot um does
uh did they not buy the whole property

531
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:27,640
or what no they just bought the Eastern
component how many heart yellow that's

532
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:32,319
what they bought oh okay I thought I
thought they had bought the whole

533
00:54:29,319 --> 00:54:37,720
property Mr H owns The Remnant there's
an alley here and I believe an alley on

534
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:41,920
theu which is recently developed
subdivision it does not have public

535
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:46,240
Street Frontage so they only purchased
1.13 Acres they only purchased that

536
00:54:44,839 --> 00:54:52,599
property
correct so they purchased it with the

537
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:56,079
understanding about the road or is that
I mean that's kind of that's what we're

538
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:01,040
going to talk about tomorrow what my
basic

539
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:06,640
concern is uh is the access I understand
about I've seen the deed i' I've read

540
00:55:03,799 --> 00:55:12,520
that the deed Mr H signed to to Dollar
Tree reps and it does indicate the

541
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:18,880
driveway access and the cross AIS iny
reement fine uh but that doesn't meet

542
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:23,760
our city codes city codes basic
especially when life safety is concerned

543
00:55:20,799 --> 00:55:26,599
with these fire and is you need public
streets typically

544
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:33,559
yeah because we're not going to send
anybody out to those neighborhoods the

545
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:36,440
back to the North or anywhere correct
have to go to Al Road okay I was in the

546
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,839
understanding that they had bought the
whole property it's okay it just seems a

547
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:46,920
little small one acre to put in a store
that size yes

548
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:53,240
sir so so how I guess my question is how
do we uh regulate I guess the back part

549
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:59,240
where when it starts overgrowing with
you know with grass and weed and stuff I

550
00:55:56,559 --> 00:56:03,160
know that behind
um Dollar General there used to be an

551
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,839
issue with the residents were
complaining that that there's a lot of

552
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,240
mosquitoes and stuff because nobody was
cutting the backyard I mean the back

553
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:16,720
area of Dollar
General um as the so in that situation

554
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:23,920
you do have people that live on Orga
Circle right so how do we make sure that

555
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:29,200
that they do cut that yard so it doesn't
overgrow there's a a couple of ways to

556
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:34,839
to answer that uh actually all all the
layers apply one is that the the manager

557
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:39,880
needs is pretty much uh responsible for
their property uh if they're not then

558
00:56:37,319 --> 00:56:42,799
we'll get a call either our billing
inspectors up and down or Code

559
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:47,920
Enforcement Officers is a very visible
area there as well Alamo road we use it

560
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:53,799
every day well it take us look you know
looking over there uh the residents will

561
00:56:50,839 --> 00:56:58,680
help us as well uh sometimes we can't
cover everything but we appreciate those

562
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:02,200
calls I like that uh like this city as
well as other ones you have an annual

563
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:06,160
wedy lot notice I just have to send the
property owners as one time certified

564
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:11,079
letter from that point on I get the call
here's the work order go go get it cut

565
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:16,079
Alex uh that's the way it works so would
be um it wouldn't be Dollar General it

566
00:57:13,319 --> 00:57:19,559
would be the the actual owner can you
say the the property to the back the

567
00:57:17,799 --> 00:57:25,200
back oh you talking about the H property
yes oh is responsible for his own

568
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:29,000
property now I don't know recall and the
the Wy lot code if there's a difference

569
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:34,559
between property no it's commercial
owned uh he needs to cut it okay that's

570
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:40,599
it's no toys about it would we be able
to table this item um just so that

571
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:45,920
there's just so many um you know issues
to talk about and we can come back and

572
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:50,799
well if there's issues that you want to
other ones that you want to let me know

573
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:55,920
that's fine I can ask the applicant to
show up uh I think tabling it will not

574
00:57:54,240 --> 00:58:00,400
hurt at all because we're not they're
not ready to build uh anyway so

575
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,319
hopefully you'll get a lot of your
questions answered tomorrow possibly

576
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:10,760
some of the things that you need well
that's true that's true uh we we tried

577
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:14,240
calling him last week and we couldn't uh
connect if you will so of course the

578
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:19,359
agenda need should be
posted yeah and the other the other

579
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:25,720
thing is are they going to put um a c
fence I guess uh on both sides of the

580
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:29,160
actual business cuz I know in Dollar
General it was same thing again you know

581
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:33,480
you have residents complaining about
trash and stuff going on to the

582
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:37,640
properties and and apparently didn't get
put up the way it was supposed to put up

583
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:44,119
you know
uh by by code they required just code

584
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:49,160
the subdivision process we can really
add another Hammer there I'll explain

585
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:53,599
how do if there's a commercial piece of
property that is building next to the

586
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:58,880
residence component they must go ahead
and build a buffer now J's property is

587
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:03,760
vague and Commercial however we have
control of the subdivision and in that

588
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:08,000
subdivision we can certainly put uh a
plat note in the cting side plan

589
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:13,559
approval required and I don't mind doing
this I've done it before going before

590
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:18,079
pnz first and then going to city council
as uh City commission as well so that

591
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:23,240
you can see what they're building and
the buffering requirement that can be

592
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:29,760
added pretty easily in the plat note uh
that we will require a perim one if you

593
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:36,240
will for you know uh debris containment
Etc purposes as well I want I want this

594
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:41,240
to show also that we're not uh pushing
away business or against moving forward

595
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:47,640
with business but uh there's just a lot
of concerns being that that property in

596
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:51,200
the back um is is is going to have a lot
of questions that we need answered

597
00:59:48,839 --> 00:59:55,720
before we can move forward with it being
a landlocked property that we're not

598
00:59:52,799 --> 01:00:02,200
going to send traffic to to anywhere
else but they got to come out you're

599
00:59:57,799 --> 01:00:06,960
you're exactly right so that's why U the
suggestion to having it tabled is is

600
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:11,160
probably a wise move here because in
order for condition number one the city

601
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:15,240
commission to act on the variance on the
driveways the street you can't do that

602
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:20,039
this evening anyway they have to move
forward and percolate that subdivision a

603
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:24,720
little bit better uh so that we can take
it to pnz and I don't mind having a

604
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:29,720
special pnz meeting either if needed so
that that will reflect our attitude to

605
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:33,440
getting them in here but uh we we need
those answers so would have thought

606
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,400
maybe maybe before they bought the
property they would ask some of those

607
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:43,240
questions but I'll make a motion to
table second second table pres motion

608
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:47,119
carries item s consideration action to
discussion possible action to appoint or

609
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:53,119
reappoint members to the Zoning Board of
adjustments yes

610
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:57,280
um of course zba is a board that
considers variances to our code setbacks

611
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,920
or square footage issues or height
requirements if you will uh someone has

612
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:06,599
appli for a variant it's been a long
time which is a good thing because all

613
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:11,359
of that means is that the our codes and
requirement are being complied with

614
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:15,119
period however you know this this
individual applicant did have the right

615
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,680
to apply for the variant so he did so
one of the things that we're looking at

616
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:23,280
is is who's on zba and were they still
okay on membership this is when I was a

617
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:29,640
little bit shocked and I'll I'll I'll
take that hit and so far that all of our

618
01:01:25,799 --> 01:01:33,880
zba members are terms have expired um
and you can see below as far as the as

619
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,640
far as the zba there are supposed to be
five regular members you have the option

620
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:43,799
of two alternates you have the names of
the people that are the current uh five

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regular members and the two alternates
uh their term of offices for two years

622
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instead of my suggesting this instead of
appointing today and then erasing pretty

623
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much one year is on November 6 if you to
appoint them that the two years start

624
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from this point forward so that way we
can conserve that extra extra time on of

625
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service this is really a discussion for
the city commission would like

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to