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work session.
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of interested um individuals uh
volunteering on our advisory boards or

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sometimes I think you've accidentally
even interviewed some individuals that

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would have been a great addition to an
advisory board only to find out that

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they don't live in Alamosa County. Um,
and what we've run into a few times is

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individuals that might work full-time or
own a business, but they don't live in

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Alamosa County, which means they're not
eligible. Or we may have individuals

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that live in Alamosa County um, but
they're working um, at center or

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somewhere else and and they don't have
that other nexus and therefore couldn't

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qualify to be on our advisory board. And
let me back up a little bit. Our

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advisory boards used to be that you had
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council at one point in time felt like
you know there's a lot of great minds

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out there that care about the community
want to volunteer why don't we take the

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step of opening that up a little bit and
what we did is we took it to the voters

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because it is in the charter and it
allows someone who's living within

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Alamosa County so that's the first
standard is they have to live within

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Alamosa County that either owns a
business, property, or works full-time

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within city limits. So, someone has to
meet both of those criteria right now to

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serve on um a board. I think when you
guys came across some of these

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individuals um that would have been neat
to have on the board, you said in

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passing maybe we should relook at this
and maybe we should open it up to where

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if you live in the valley um type of
situation that you would be open to

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having them on a board. You would still
have your own checks and balances. You'd

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still do the interviews. It's still your
decision who you appoint to a board um

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type of situation. staff doesn't really
have much of an opinion on this, but if

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it is something that council's
interested in wanting to change and make

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it to where it is more open and you want
to do it this year for the election, we

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kind of need to know that so we can
start preparing and making sure the same

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time we're doing education on the street
sales tax that we also um do similar

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education for for this so people
understand why it's coming before them.

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So, with that, I'll I'll put it back to
council, but just as a reminder, there's

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there's the two different criterias,
Alamosa County, and then they have to

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either own property, work full-time, or
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criteria. So, Mary, I'll turn it over.
>> Time. The expanded criteria is the St.

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Louis Valley, right?
>> So, you need to talk, you would want to

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talk through if you want to change both
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whole San Louis Valley, which is okay,
but that means um I think you

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interviewed a gentleman who lived in Rio
Grand but worked full-time at ASU. He

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would then qualify type of situation.
But the other example we had, we had

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someone who lives right in East Alamosa,
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Since they don't do any of those other
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So, you would want to talk through if
you want to change both of those

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criteria or not.
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» So, just to be clear, it's not
>> Can you talking to the mic?

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» Just to be clear, it's not that you want
to change it. You can't do that change,

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but it's what issue do you want to
propose to the voters because it's a

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charter change. So, you're not doing
anything other than proposing if you

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want to a question to the voters.
>> Okay. All right. So, I'll open it up to

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council. You could just turn your mics
on and we'll we'll talk a little bit

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about it. Anybody has any first
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Carson and then Krebs,
you want to go first?

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» Um, mine's a quick 30 second. Um I'm
just thinking just for matter of time if

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we want to talk about one of the
components first like the valley type

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thing and then once we figure that out
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that way we're not confusing each other
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» That would be my only
suggestion but whatever.

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» But other than that I'll turn it.
>> Let me see what he had to say.

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Okay.
I'm just kind of looking for

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clarification and and forgive me if I'm
not getting it, but so so we're wanting

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to come up with language for the ballot
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voters if we're going to change it. And
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don't want to make a change, then we we
don't do anything. But if you do want to

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make a change, we do have to take it to
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» So it would be us wanting to make Hold
on. If we want to make a change, we have

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to come up with a language, put it on
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yes or no, whether they want to change
the charter. That's a municipal vote. Or

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do county resip
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» Yeah.
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Okay. All right.
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So, we'll kind of take into
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said so we don't get too confused. But I
just want to ask one question of

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clarification.
So let's use this example. It's a recent

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example. Um as far as a youth advisory
member being on the board, um a parent

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reached out to me that's lives in Rio
Grand County and their kid goes to

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school in Monav Vista, but they're
really active. They really want to be

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active in um politics and learning from
other political leaders and being on

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boards. Would that youth be able to be
on a Alamosa advisory board? If we do

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the St. Louis Valley, allow St. Louis
Valley participants to be on our

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advisory committee.
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have to change the part that says they
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essentially, and then you have to change
the part that they don't have to be here

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full time type of thing.
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would be discussing about being on a
ballot if we were to do both. if you

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want to do both. Yes. Or you can choose
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» or none.
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example. Every year, um, councelor Yan
Vehill has his group of students from

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center come in and and they're real
active and they follow up and reach out

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wanting to be more involved too. So
that's once again would be something

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changing both. If a student from uh
center wanted to participate on some of

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our our advisory committees down the
road as a youth,

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» you would need to change both of those.
>> Okay. I just want to give that

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classification. Okay. Council cars. Um
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and this is purely for clarification. Um
for example, I'm going to use a real

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world person like Ruthie right now.
Ruthie Brown. Ruthie Brown does not

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qualify right now.
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» Does qualify to be on the board. Okay.
So, that's kind of the criteria I'm

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trying to
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» basically, we're just we're just going
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change at all. We're going to expand
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» I think that's board applicable. You
know what I mean? I think that's that's

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kind of I mean I get it's got to be one
big broad stroke but um like what if

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there's a board that is you know you
need input on living in the municipality

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or
>> then don't appoint somebody that's not

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going to match up.
>> So just wait them out in the criteria in

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the in the
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It's just saying who's eligible to apply
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Okay. And and I'm just thinking through
legalities right here. So if I'm a

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constituent and and we're looking for
something municipality rep, I mean, you

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know, city Alamosa proper rep and that's
what part of the criteria is, then this

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non-Alamosa proper rep would that's
interviewing would not fit that

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criteria. So that would legally cover us
from any um like discriminatory

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» accusation. So, so what they're saying,
councelor Carson, is that ultimately

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it's us who decide who are on these
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reach to get a bigger pool of people.
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» Yeah, I'm just I'm just thinking about
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» I don't think it's that interesting.
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» I
to you guys can't discriminate against

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people on protected classes, right? But
if you interview individuals and you

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don't feel any of them would be a good
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not related to protected classes, you
don't have to appoint anybody regardless

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where they live, regardless where they
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only thing from a legal perspective for
discrimination is protected classes. But

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if you feel like someone who lives in
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be a better fit than the person
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your prerogative.
>> Yeah, but that doesn't keep them from

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pulling any sort of card at all. You
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lawyer the opinion ma'am. I'm sorry.
>> No, Heather's right. People can sue for

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whatever they want. And if someone's
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appointed, they would have to point to
age, sex, race, uh, gender, orientation,

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you know, one of those protected
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» But the reason I said it's an
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sued right now, uh, because they kicked
someone off of their board for

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essentially working with someone suing
the city. and that person is suing

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Boulder on First Amendment free speech
grounds. I think they're going to lose

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both free speech grounds and
uh due process that that they were

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deprived of a property interest without
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lose. I think they should lose, but
that's an issue that gets raised

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sometimes.
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there's still the reckoning with it. You
understand what I'm saying? Well, so

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explain to me what
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you've just expanded the potential
number of people, but you haven't

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changed those kinds of grounds for a
lawsuit at all. You haven't increased

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our liability at all by doing that.
>> Okay. And and I mean All right. I I get

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what you're saying.
>> All right. Thank you.

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» Thank you, Councelor Carson, Councelor
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So,
having been on CML and seeing a lot of

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things that happen in other cities and
towns, one of the things that there's a

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couple things that concern me on this
and the first one is I don't see it

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happening here, this whole political
type of thing, but there are in the

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larger cities where they bring in
certain people from a political

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standpoint and they campaign and or um
try to get on certain boards or get

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voted in because they have a specific
motive. So, it concerns me a little just

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that you could have a different city or
something that has a alter ulterior

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method or reasoning to getting onto one
of our boards that may not have to do

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with our city. So, what that leads me to
really believe I kind of like the way

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it's set up now. I potentially could be
open to the idea of going outside of

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Elamosa, but I feel like they need to
have a reason. And I know this kind of

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dis this um doesn't allow for the
students maybe as much, which does bum

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me out a little, but the bottom line is
I think they need to have some real

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teeth in the game of having a business
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something, not just be a St. Louis
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Alamos. I just feel like that can open
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we may may not be aware of. So I guess
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» Hey, thank you uh councelor Hansy for
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councelor Carson.
>> Thank you mayor.

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» I guess um for
my comment um as it relates to um what

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if we choose this person over that
person? The application questions that

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we ask don't address those at all. We
don't mention anything like that. So, we

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would actually have no idea unless they
offer that information in the interview

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about where they're from type thing.
While I agree with um councelor Hensley

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to a little bit that there is some risk
involved, I think that we might benefit

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by opening up the and making it bigger
even if it's slightly bigger. And I

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don't want to exclude any counties and I
don't not sure if I really wanted to do

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it by counties but I think we are
missing a a good potential especially

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when it does come to the youth
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I we could even say that youth of a
certain age if they want to serve on a

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board are excluded from the full-time
obviously or maybe be a full-time

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student or something of that nature. Um,
but other than that, I'm

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I'm I'm listening, but I'm really not
seeing too much of the downside of

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opening it up to the entire county
>> or valley. Sorry.

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» Thank you, Council Kribs. And um, Miss
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can you clarify, if I'm not mistaken,
when they fill out application, isn't

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that information on there that you put
in the packet with us?

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» Yes.
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sure.
>> Yeah.

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Yep.
>> All right.

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» Ask them because usually it's an address
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city or county. So, we have to ask them.
>> Okay. Thank you. And councelor Carson

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and councelor Martinez.
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is there I guess what I would ask
Heather is um

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what uh what are the real positives that
you see with this? like what are the

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what I mean not not to put you on the
spot but I you know when I was asking

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the other question it would seem like
you know what I'm saying like what are

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me just enlighten me a little bit as to
what opening this pool up does because

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again I I I do we saw it in real time
with Douglas County and the way they

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built their waterboard and the way
people were just drawn in from different

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towns and and and they were greasing
people in real time. it was like right

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happening right in front of our eyes.
And so that is a really valid point that

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Liz brings up. People are, you know,
this is a political world and it doesn't

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always have to be red or blue. It can be
money or or water or, you know, whatever

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it is. And so, um, it is it is a risk
that we take when we open that up. So,

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I'm just curious what what are the
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And so I I if and again I I
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this is more coming from I think you
interviewed a really um energetic

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individual um that lived in Rio Grand
but worked full-time at ASU and would

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have I think some of the comments I
heard would have been a great addition

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to whatever board they were applying
for. Um, so it it it could be that there

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are some neat individuals out there that
have passions that align with some of

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our boards um and they're willing to do
it. I know this isn't your question, but

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conversely, I don't
there are I was going to say I'm not

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sure we're we're not getting enough
volunteers, but there might be a few

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boards that we do struggle a little bit
more than other boards.

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» Okay. Okay. So then I asked this, is it
possible, Eric, for you to come up with

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language that changes the charter enough
to where we have the freedom to make

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those choices on a more dynamic basis
than we do now? You know what I mean?

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Like I don't know if that helps or not.
>> Oh, I'm confused by So right now you

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guys do the interview and you appoint
who you think it needs to be. There's

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nothing forcing you to appoint certain
people or who to appoint not to appoint.

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So that wouldn't change. All this does
is give you a bigger pool of applicants.

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» I get that. When I was talking about the
legal risks, I wasn't necessarily

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talking about protected classes. I was
talking about the the the agenda driven

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people that could say we didn't put them
on this board for reason A, B, or C. So,

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if you don't think there's risk of that,
I mean, that was more my concern was

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protecting us from something like Liz
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with agendas that could want to they may
want to change the library. They may

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want to change, you know what I mean,
the trails, you know, they may want to

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change ATV rules. You know what I'm
saying? And you might have somebody that

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gets on the board. You understand what
I'm saying? As as Don pointed out, if

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you do, if the voters approve this
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you may want to revisit the kinds of
questions that you ask, especially of

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people who don't have an obvious
>> tie to Allar to try to get at why the

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heck do you want to
>> volunteer your time to serve, you know,

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spend five hours a month driving 50
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boards, which doesn't even get to do
anything. But if someone interviews for

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the library board and they think they
say, "I'm running because I think that

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the library is a mess and it needs a new
direction and all of that and and you

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guys don't agree with that." Then you
probably don't think it's going to be a

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good fit to put them on the library
board. That's not a legally protected

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class.
>> I got you. So, I guess my my question

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are over. I I would leave it to you guys
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that. If you think it's not broken, like
Heather said, if it's not broken, then

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why are we trying to fix it? But I mean,
you know, I'm not whatever you guys

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think. I'm I guess I'm game with just
support whatever you guys think because

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everybody have valid points. But again,
this brings up good point.

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» All right. Thank you, Council Gar. Let's
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thinking about some of the points you
brought up, which isn't legal like Eric

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said, but it's optics and and um I know
we're taking it to the voters and

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they'll approve it or they won't. But
then if people that apply from the city

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of Alamos are like, "We applied, but you
chose this person from Monav Vista." The

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city council is going against they're
not even taking people from Alamos in

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consideration. And it's not a legal
issue because we can choose whoever we

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we want. But then it becomes optics and
that the city is not representing the

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city and it becomes kind of a political
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we are we're not appointed we're
elected. So that's one thing. And then

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as far as Liz's comment goes, I think
people can interview really well and

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then turn out to be something completely
different. So we can say, "Hey, this

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person loves the library board. They
think our library is great." and then

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they come in and we hear well Monavista
does theirs this way or we do it this

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way here and then we have to deal with
that kind of crap. So, I think maybe

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opening it up to the county, people who
live within the county, cuz they do, I

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mean, people in East Talamosa have to
shop in the city. You know, people in

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Monavista don't have to shop in the
city. They do a lot of times because

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most a lot of times they work here, but
they don't have to shop here. People in

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East Amos, they kind of do. There's not
a whole lot out there that they can get

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elsewhere. So that's just my thoughts.
>> And good thoughts. Good thought. Good

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thoughts. Uh council cribs,
>> let me throw this out here. At the

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beginning you said that there there are
two requirements. One is the location

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and the other one is um work full-time,
own a business. What if it was one or

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the other?
they would still have a tie to Alamosa

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in some way, either financially owning a
business or working here or they live

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here and they might work in center at
the school, you know, that kind of

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thing. So that way we can capture people
that have a vested interest in

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» Say it one more time. Say it one more
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» So if I'm understanding correctly, we
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County. So if they meet that criteria,
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And instead of it being an and it would
be an or. So if they live in Alamosa

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County but work at a different school
district because they live in Alamosa

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County, they would still qualify. And
since it's an or if they own a business,

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own property, or work full-time, there's
three. Thank you. It doesn't matter

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where they live within the valley as
long as they're meeting one of those

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three criteria. So it changes the and to
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that's municipal state.
>> Okay. One more time with the R. So I

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understand Alamosa County if they live
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time.
>> Okay. So right now it's an and which

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means you have to live in Alamosa County
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business or work full-time
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» well or or live in the city. If you live
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» Yeah, that's all you need to live in the
city. Okay.

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» So anyways, so that's the and scenario
right now. Don is talking about changing

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it to an or. So, if you live in Alamosa
County, we don't care if you own

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property within the city. We don't care
if you work in the city. We don't care

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if you own a business in the city. If
you live in Alamosa County, that's a

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close enough nexus that we feel you
should qualify to be able to apply to a

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board. Or if you own you can live in any
of the counties within the valley, but

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and but you have to own a business,
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Okay, I get it now.
>> Well, that that's that's sounds pretty

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decent, but I'm gonna go to councelor
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» So, personally, I feel like it's not
broken. So, I'm not really gung-ho about

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changing it. That would be my first
choice. If we went this route, I

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actually feel like even Alamosa County,
any of them, if it's not in the city,

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they need to have they need to work have
a place or something here, even if

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they're in the county. I just again, I
just think there has to be something

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tied to the city. We are city
um boards, things like that. So, there

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has to be a true tie to the city would
be my second choice. So for me

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personally, even if it's just county
residents, I still feel like they have

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to have the link to the city.
>> So the only interest you really have

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from a second option is instead of it
being limited to Alamosa County, you're

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open to it being for the valley, but you
want to keep that nexus. You want to

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keep the three criteria.
>> And I'm going to be honest, my first

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vote is probably going to be more just
to keep it the way it is.

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» Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Well, we're
having some healthy debate today. Good

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deal. Councelor Vio,
>> I'm with Liz. Keep it the way it is.

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Don't mess with it. Leave it alone. Um,
for the reasons Mr. Martinez brought up

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a really good point that I didn't even
think about is if we put on someone from

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Swatch who wants to be on our library
board when we had some folks from

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Alamosa who want to do it.
Um, [clears throat]

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and then what Liz and Mike were saying
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someone wanting to be on a board and
trying to put their own agenda on there

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and that screwing everything up and keep
it the way it is. Keep it the way.

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» Okay. Councelor Krebs and then councelor
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» can we take this opportunity then? Um,
so I'm getting the gist of the board and

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I'm perfectly okay with that. Can we
take a moment and discuss um the

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definition of full-time work? Because I
think for for one of my boards, for

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example, a person who qualifies or or
technically didn't qualify because they

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didn't have a full-time job. They're an
artist. So, technically their their job

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is being a full-time artist, but
everywhere.

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» Can can we pin that maybe for a
different time kind of discussion

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» because I just wanted to make sure that
that was touched on. Um, at least as if

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we say they work full-time. They do work
full-time, but but and you could say

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that for plumbers, you could say that
for house cleaners.

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» We disqualified someone for that.
>> No, no,

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» no. But it it's it's it's a debate. It's
a thing. And and it can we put something

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in there for for youth about being a
full-time student so we don't

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accidentally exclude a youth under the
current

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standards?
Right now, a youth that lives in Alamosa

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County and goes to school within the
Alamosa school district is eligible.

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» Okay.
>> So, Okay. All right. Thank you.

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» We're going to go to Council Carson.
Councelor Hensley, then I'll have a

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comment as well. Council Carson,
>> I just want to let everyone up here know

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that I agree with all of you. [laughter]
>> You guys are all

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» all the time.
>> Thank you.

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» All right. Council say thank you
councelor Carson.

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» I think I think you'd start muddying the
water too if we start really getting

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into definition. I I think if I was have
if you were going to pin me to a

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definition I would say that their their
business address has to be in the city.

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You know like plumbers I'm married to an
electrician. He definitely doesn't

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always work in Alamosa but his address
or his business is Alamosa. I would just

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say we don't want to take we do are not
recommending to take anything to the

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voters to try to do definition
>> like that is way too that's beyond

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» I agree.
>> Okay.

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» So so I'm I'm just going to say
something. Um

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I know that there are a lot of people in
Alamosa County. Let's say we didn't open

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it up to the valley and I can understand
that. But if you I think there is a good

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reason to consider opening up to Alamosa
County uh people whether they work here

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or not because there are people who live
out in the county that might bring some

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value uh with some of their ideas and
suggestions uh to our boards and

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advisory boards. They may not work here
now, but maybe at one time they did work

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in the city or work at a university or
uh just a thought, but it's going to

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boil down to um what what you all decide
as a team. Um but I I don't see too much

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harm if we open it up to Alamos, the
county residents um myself.

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So based on the com conversation, if I
was going to summarize, I feel like I

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heard one, two, three, four, five people
say, "It's not broken. Let's not fix it

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type of thing." And I'm hearing one
person say, "I think we should talk

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about being more open, but it it seems
the numbers are the other way." Am I am

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I misunderstanding anything?
>> Okay.

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» I think I think you're absolutely right,
Councelor Carson. Agree with you.

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We're going [laughter] with this. We're
on a roll. Mayor, I don't know if we um

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want to close your discussion and do a
little bit of time for any potential

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public comment um type of thing.
>> Yes, we we can go ahead and and close it

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um for public comment. And I I want to
thank council for the good healthy

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conversation and healthy uh debate. Um
really appreciate that. Okay, so it

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looks like um
we're going to leave things like they

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So, if we're opening it up to public
comment, did you want to do that?

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» Yes. So, what I'm going to do right now
only only if your comments are related

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to what we just talked about. If your
comments are not related to what we just

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talked about, we will have a meeting
that's starting at 7:00 and you'll be

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able to make your comments at our open
city council meeting under the citizen

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comment section. Okay? And the comment
cards are not don't I would not use the

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comment cards for this. I would just
open it up like you normally do.

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» Okay. So, if anyone wants to make a
comment about what we were just talking

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about, go over to the mic right there
and you can start making your comments.

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And we do ask that you keep your
comments to within 3 minutes. We do time

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those comments. If you're still talking
at the 3minut mark, we will politely ask

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you to uh stop making your comments.
Also, here on city council, uh we

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practice civility, meaning that we are
mindful and respectful, not

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interrupting, cheering, or clapping when
someone's making comments because we

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don't want them to lose the thoughts
that they uh want to speak on. Okay? So,

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if you have any comments, just please go
up to the mic and you can start making

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your comments.

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Go ahead. You go right there.

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Um, my name is Rebecca. I currently
moved to Alamosa about two years ago.

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Um, if I start crying or anything, don't
mind that. That's my anxiety. People

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people really bother me. Um, the
conversation I just came into, it sounds

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like a really great idea. Um, a lot of
people that I've actually met come from

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the San Louise area and stuff and they
come here for the help. So, that really

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says something if it says anything.
Um, it sounds like you guys are trying

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to do a great job and really appreciate
you guys. Thanks for letting me speak

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the first time.
>> Thank you. Thank you.

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» Okay. Anyone else any comments regarding
uh what we just talked about? If not, I

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don't see any. Uh, let's go to Zoom and
we'll go to the Zoom participant.

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We'll go to Zoom. If you're on Zoom and
you have any comments you would like to

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make, use the raise your hand feature at
the bottom of the screen and raise your

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hand and we'll recognize you.
I don't see any hands raised. I don't

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see anybody on Zoom. All right. So,
we're going to go ahead and close this

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segment and uh give council a little bit
of time back and we'll come back at 7

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o'clock. We're good.