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Thank you very much.

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And board.

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We have a final agenda in front of us.

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I do want to point out that attachments E and F for item

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number 16, which is EMEA 25 four and Z is EMEA 25 518

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on Fifth Street, Phase two were replaced on line on August 13.

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Copies of the changes are both over

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where our sign ups are and I believe

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you have the attached attachments here

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at are with us up here as well.

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This is not an amendment to the final agenda,

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just noting that the information was swapped out.

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Are there any changes to the final agenda?

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Is there a motion to adopt the final agenda?

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Some of.

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Second, the motion has been made and seconded.

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Without objection.

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If the clerk will please call the roll.

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Mr. Galloway?

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Yes, sir.

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Currently, I. Hi, Miss Mallett.

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Yes, Mr. Missal.

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All right, Mr. Pruitt.

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All right Miss Duncan?

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Yes.

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Very good.

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We have an agenda approved, and we will now

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move to item number five.

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Briefing announcements by board members and Supervisor Pistole

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curtly.

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You're leaving us off?

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Yes.

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I am happy to announce that there will be a pant hobbs

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community celebration on Sunday, October 4th,

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from 3 to 6 at 1525.

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Stony point Road.

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You are invited.

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There will be food and a bunch of other stuff.

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So please, if you can attend attend.

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Thank you.

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Supervisor Malik.

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Thank you very much.

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Just a quick update from the invasive species bills,

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which were passed with our local delegates

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help at the General Assembly and signed by the governor.

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House Bill 88 allows roadside management

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of invasive species in be the rights of way

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big, big, big step forward.

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So when we see takeovers of alliances and the scars

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from that, they've been planting willfully,

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that is now taking over of we need

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to send things to Greg Cooley and he will work on that.

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House Bill 109 closes the invasive plant

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commercial viability loophole.

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That was Holly Siebold from Loudon

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to try to restrict the sales of things

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which we know are invasive and should not be here.

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This was ten years in the making and the Nursery Mens Association

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in Virginia was behind this work.

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All considered and part of it.

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And behind it all the way h sb 89,

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HB 8388 expands powers of public service districts

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to include invasive plant control.

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So Katrina Coulson and Senator Sulayem carried that one.

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And lastly senate Bill 163 allows

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volunteers to assist with invasive plant

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control on state owned lands.

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Senator McDougal had to get that passed

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because we trip over our own rules all the time.

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But anyway, I just wanted to bring that to attention

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because I, like many other people miss

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the early signs of a whole lot of things on our property

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that now I'm killing myself trying to pull out because I

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didn't catch them in year one.

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And we all need to try to catch them in year one.

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Thank you.

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All right, Supervisor Duncan, I am

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looking for an advisory member to serve

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on the advisory board for the Department of Social Services.

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As you have to live in the Directorate District.

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It is a great way to sort of serve

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as a communication bridge between what

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the US is doing in the community, between the board

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and the community.

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This is a great way to participate

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kind of in the humans services.

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Part of what the county is offering.

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The only requirement is that you live in the district.

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And so if there are people that are interested, please email me.

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Thank you.

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Supervisor Pruitt.

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Yes, as I do so many times a year,

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I'd like to remind folks that election laws are always

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coming up.

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Our next election is going to be on the 3rd of November.

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There are a lot of things on the ballot.

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We have two federal offices, both our congressional

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representative and Senator as well as for referenda,

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that's three constitutional referendum referenda and one

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local spending referendum that we recently authorized

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registration to vote and update your registration is going to be

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up until October 23rd.

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So that is coming up fast.

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You can still vote on a provisional after that,

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but that is your deadline to change and update

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your registration Early in-person voting

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starts very soon.

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It starts in September 18 and runs in

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through the end of October.

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And additionally, I mentioned this previous meeting,

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but I'll say it again Fridays on the Canal final Friday

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of every summer, Friday month in Scottsville.

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I really butchered that.

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But the thing that matters is coming up on the 28th will be

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the Drew pace band down by the canal in Scottsville at five.

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That's all I got.

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All right.

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Supervisor Missal.

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Great.

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Thank you, Chair.

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A couple of comments.

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One is Java is sponsoring a wills for seniors.

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It's a free life planning from a local estate planning attorney.

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And it is coming up this way.

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Advance notice in October, but October will be here before we

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know it, October 13th.

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And I'd just encourage the community

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to go to their website, the Java website, to confirm eligibility

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and to sign up in advance for that.

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It is one day only and by appointment only.

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Second announcement is there is plans.

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There are plans for two historical markers

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to be located in the L.A. area there.

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They've they've been planning this for quite a while.

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And the event will be occurring I should

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know that it's not on here.

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It is coming up in September or middle of September

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so I don't have a date that the event will be at 2 p.m.

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at Yancy Community Center and it'll be a dual marker

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historical installation for both the Esmond High School,

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which was from 1915 to 1959, and Benjamin Franklin Elementary

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School from 1960 to 2017.

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Sorry, it's on Sunday afternoon, September 27th.

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There it is.

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Benjamin Franklin.

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Yancey Yes.

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Don't forget the answer.

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Thank you That's all.

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Thanks.

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Very good.

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I do not have any announcements.

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Oh, I actually do.

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Over the by.

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I'm pretty sure this weekend coming up

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is moving weekend for UVA starting tomorrow.

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I like to always just remind folks

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that that's going to be a lot of new people on the roads

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and that every all of us can execute some patience as people

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maneuver around and get jammed down, especially in the barracks

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road, Yuba area grounds area.

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But just everyone below extra careful, little extra

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considerate and we'll make it through that weekend All right.

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With that, we will move to number six proclamations

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and recognitions.

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And we do have three different items today.

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The first is a proclamation recognizing Kosovo,

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African-American history Day 2026

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and we have is a Dayvon Dayvon Williams with us.

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Did I say the name right now I'm representing

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Lucille Smith got here.

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Lucille Smith will be with us.

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How this will work as supervisor missile

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or read the proclamation today as a motion

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the board will take a vote and then

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we would welcome you in anyone else

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to come down and make some remarks.

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And then we will probably make some comments

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and ask some questions as well.

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So a supervisor missile.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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It's my pleasure and honor to make this as a motion.

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Whereas the historic community of Coatesville, Virginia,

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listed on the National Registry of Historic places

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represents an important chapter in the history of Albemarle

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County and stands as a testament to the generation of families

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whose perseverance Labor faith and commitment

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helped shape the county's agricultural, industrial, and

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cultural heritage.

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And.

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Whereas, for generations the African-American community

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of Coatesville played an essential role

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in Albemarle County's growth by cultivating and supporting

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the region's internationally recognized, award winning apple

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orchards construct in countless miles of railroad

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working in local mines, harvesting timber

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and contributing to the industries that

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fueled the county's economy and development And.

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Whereas, the community's enduring spirit is reflected

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in institutions such as the First Baptist Church,

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Coatesville, which this year celebrates its 142nd anniversary

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as a pillar of the Fellowship leadership and service

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for generations of Coatesville families and the broader

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Albemarle County Community.

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And.

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Whereas, Coatesville has produced individuals whose lives

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and achievements have strengthened Albemarle county,

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including Cornelia Johnson, a proud daughter of Kerrville,

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who became the first African-American woman to serve

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as a police officer in Charlottesville and later,

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the first elected female sheriff in the city of Charlottesville.

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Breaking barriers and paving the way for future generations

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of public servants And.

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Whereas, Coatesville History Day,

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hosted by the William H. And Virginia, a Williams family

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foundation and the country house Project

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in partnership with First Baptist Church,

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Coatesville brings together descendants, residents,

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historians, preservationists and visitors

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to celebrate the community's rich heritage through genealogy,

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oral histories, historic preservation

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and educational programming cultural activities,

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while ensuring that the stories and contributions of Coatesville

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continue to inspire future generations.

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therefore be it proclaimed that we, the Albemarle County

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Board of Supervisors, do hereby proclaim

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the fourth Saturday of August as Coatesville

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all African-American History Day in Albemarle County, Virginia,

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and recognize the remarkable history enduring legacy

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and continuing contributions of the Coatesville community while

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honoring the generations whose stories have enriched

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the character of Albemarle County this 19th century.

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2026.

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Second, Thank you.

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Very good.

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The motion has been made and seconded.

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Without objection, if the clerk will please call the roll.

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Mr. Galloway.

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Yes, Mr. Peace to Kirtley.

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I miss Malik.

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Yes, Mr. Missal.

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Hi, Mr. Pruitt.

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I miss Duncan.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Board and please come forward.

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If you'd like to make some remarks, and we'll do likewise.

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And then we'll bring the proclamation down

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Good afternoon.

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I have to acknowledge and chair Mr. Galloway

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and the members of the are Board of Supervisors.

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Thank you.

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And i so graciously accept this proclamation

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and I would like to say that I am a transplant here from Little

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Rock, Arkansas.

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But I'm a member of the First Baptist Church of Coatesville,

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and I'm the historian there.

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And I have written their history.

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And I'd also like to say that my husband, who grew up

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in the coastal area, once upon a time

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was chair of this city school board,

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and he served on that board for nine years.

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And also as the chair of the Albemarle Charlottesville public

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Defender's Office.

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So that's a lot of history there.

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And I so graciously accept this proclamation

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from Albemarle County.

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Thank you so much.

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We're going to invite the supervisors to make

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any remarks they wish to do so supervise, just let this go.

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Currently on a personal note, where in Arkansas are you from?

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I grew up in Little Rock.

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Little Rock.

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OK.

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Is miles from the Capitol to My late husband

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was from Arkansas, born and raised.

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So this is really an honor for you all.

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And it's an honor for us to be able to present

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a proclamation to you for you, because I think

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without everybody's effort I don't

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think we'd have much of a county, frankly,

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sounded like you all.

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You were.

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So the African American community was so involved.

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I think not only Coatesville, but frankly,

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throughout the entire county.

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I mean, what you did for especially for agriculture,

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which I'm not like, but everything you built

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and faith based, I think it's extremely important You kind of

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set the stage for everything.

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And you do you just all have contributed the the community

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has contributed so much.

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And continues to do so.

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So I don't want anyone to think that something was done.

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And then that's it.

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No, it's a continuation of everything

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that has been done before You past generations,

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and it's truly an honor that you're

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part of what we're all part of the same county

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because you really without those efforts,

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I'm not sure how well, we would have done, frankly.

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Thank you.

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You.

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Thank you.

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Supervisor Malik.

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Thank you very much for coming.

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And I so appreciate the work of our local

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parishes our residents and descendants to call recognition

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to our history, not just a house or a president, but all of us.

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As a native, I grew up here living in the history every day.

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But I was in my 60s before I learned a much more complete

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story, and it was my constituents who helped me to do

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that.

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Every district and rural area has about all of it,

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or First Baptist Coatesville or Little Church in Browns Cove

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or Piedmont Baptist and Yancey Mills

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that all hold the communities together.

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And so we all need to work together

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to continue to strengthen each other

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and to make that story even more known.

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Thank you very much, Supervisor Duncan.

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I. I teach a u.S. history class for high schoolers,

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but it's also a U.S. and local history class.

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And so as part of the research for it.

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When I was first doing it, as I was looking

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at kind of black history in America County,

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and there are so many communities like this,

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like everywhere in the county And when you start looking,

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when you start seeing road names and churches,

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you just realize like how rich the fabric was and still is.

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And so this is a really sometimes it's

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hard to like find that information

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or have it kind of told cohesively

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And so this is really fantastic to do a day like this.

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I was just kind of skimming the article from last year's History

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Day and the pictures and all of the stuff that's happening.

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So this is really exciting that we're doing this.

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I hope this spreads to a lot of the other communities

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are here because this is a really really rich, deep history

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that's really important.

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So thank you.

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Supervisor Pruitt.

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Thank you so much for joining us here today.

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You know, you were mentioning teaching us history.

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And I remember when I took U.S. history.

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And I think about U.S. history, what

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do we think we think of like all these famous people, this litany

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of famous people and famous places

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that we categorize and orient our knowledge around.

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And when you live in a country with a history, like ours,

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there is a long period of who was

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excluded from being able to be a famous person in this country.

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And if that's the only way we think

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about history and this litany of fame and power,

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are we completely erased?

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Like so much of what we are as a country

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or what we are as a people or what we are as Albemarle County?

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And it's so easy for these places

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where we there isn't a government of Coatesville,

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there isn't something to hold that memory and that story.

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And if we only think about the people of power,

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then we forget all these people we get from power.

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And we forget all the history that

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makes us a full and complete community.

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So I want to just thank you all so much for helping us capture

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and enshrine and tell this story of a full and complete history

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of this community and what we are together as a country.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Supervisor Missal.

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Thank you.

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I'd just like to say ditto to what everybody said,

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but I also have some things to say.

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Thank you for this.

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And Coatesville is a really special place.

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I didn't really didn't realize how amazing it

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is it was until I started to learn some of the history.

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And I'm really envious of history.

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And so the work that you're doing

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in building the database of the past

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and thinking forward to the future is essential.

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I've had an opportunity to do some of that in my other job

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and I'm happy to partner with you

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and see if there are ways that we can continue

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to build that database, because I know

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that's where the power and the information

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is really leveraged amongst the that the community.

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So thank you for this opportunity.

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And very much look forward to handing you this in a second.

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OK.

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I join with my colleagues on their remarks.

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And I have a question.

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I know that a handful of years ago

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and the effort that was made to gather oral remarks

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or to hear folks passed down through that storytelling

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in that way, and they were actually

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having their stories recorded for the record

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and the particular event.

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I remembering was at the Antique Community Center.

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Does that still go on?

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Are we still collecting specifically

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from that oral history way, the actual vocal record of hearing

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folks tell the history that oral history is still

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being collected.

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And I would also like to say that it took me about ten years,

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but I have a complete video of the history of Coatesville

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just completed, and I would like to give provide

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a copy to the Historical Society because great, it's

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a lot of information in that video and whatever is doing

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and the foundation is taking it to another level

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But it would be wonderful if you could actually see what's really

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going on with this project.

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Yeah, I would love to see that.

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And all my life all the time that I've been here,

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everybody always said the community of Coatesville.

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But Coatesville is a village, historic village

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And you had some others that joined everyone.

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I introduced and everybody.

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Hello, everyone.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Devin Williams and I'm

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the founder of the Country House project First,

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please forgive me for my tardiness.

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We've got to kind of schedule order.

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I have to go pick up the illustrious Cornelia somewhere.

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That's not why we're late.

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I'm just like.

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I just did target person sometimes.

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But I want to echo everything.

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And first, the hope.

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Thank you so much You're welcome.

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Thank you so much.

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So, Coatesville is the home place of my grandfather, Francis

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Williams, senior He raised a family in Washington, DC,

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but he was very, very proud of his album.

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Our county community village of Collinsville Oh,

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it left an indelible mark on the memories of soul.

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Many people don't even live here in Albemarle County All up

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and across the eastern seacoast is

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for people who descend from Collinsville

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who have this very vivid and palpable image and memory

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of Collinsville.

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And so what we celebrate with collinsville History Day

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is that memory.

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When a place no longer exists, how does memory celebration.

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Take the place of.

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And so that's what we're doing this coming Saturday.

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And every Saturday before fourth Sunday for here until eternity.

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And so we want to teach the young people

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to keep this tradition going.

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We want to make sure that this community knows

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that we are in vested and making sure that people can always

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have access to the story of Coatesville

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and not just the story that is covered only in the textbooks.

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But one that tells a fuller, broader picture.

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As Mr. Pruitt said about how not everyone with a famous last name

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can get some credit for the work that they've put

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into a community or a village.

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And so many members of Collinsville

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and those who disintegrate are Albemarle County.

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Many of the African Americans you find in Charlottesville

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later in the centuries are from Coatesville

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and they all make incredible contribution to this community,

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but they don't tell the story of coal.

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So they don't forget.

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They hold it in their hearts, but they move forward

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and they forge to other cities like New York.

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There are hundreds of Coatesville descendants

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in New York, Baltimore, D.C., all over Virginia, Richmond,

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in particular.

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And they hold that story.

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And so when we hosted calls for History Day last year,

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it was very evident that this community.

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Finally got an opportunity to have a platform

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to speak their truth, to tell stories

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to remember collectively, and the human and the human mind

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has no understanding of how important it

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is to share a collective past with someone else

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and see yourself in stories and in memories.

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And so this is what we do, and we have fun doing it too.

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So history.

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An amateur historian, but I like to have a good time.

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And so I know young people like to have a good time

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in this next generation.

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They want to see a digital future.

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And so that's what we're doing, trying to bring Kosovo

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into this next era with the history, with the genealogy,

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with the oral storytelling, the whole bit.

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So thank you so much for this honor today

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as well And we'll have supervisor missile bring

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the proclamation down while he's working.

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May I make one additional comment?

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And that is this reminds me of the Giving Word project

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that was inaugurated, first of all, on cello.

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But I was at the opening there.

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And the family members who went to the kiosk

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and learned things they had never known before.

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And then when it was moved to the on the Smithsonian Memorial

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Day you see when that museum opened,

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we had several bus loads of people who

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went up to participate in that.

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I just was so impacted by the feelings of the family

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members and the descendants and how important it was to them.

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And I'm really glad that you're doing this locally.

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That's terrific.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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And these two things will be receiving.

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Thank you both.

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And just evidenced also, here's my call I think.

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And it's nice to be here.

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Good to meet you.

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So I know there's something they can

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do to help connect, communicate with to say one thing.

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Just make good afternoon, everybody

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I want you all to know I'm the chronicler of Albemarle County.

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I was office in Charlottesville and then became a city chair.

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But I remember the days when I was walking to downtown mall.

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Some of you might remember and others don't, that

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was an insurance company then that man name died in power.

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Every morning he'd come and he said, You all

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get back this cold milk is coming through.

526
00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:08,429
So come is really a special place.

527
00:24:08,429 --> 00:24:10,393
And that's where I got my start.

528
00:24:10,393 --> 00:24:13,940
Matter of fact, I was even a school bus driver

529
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:14,568
for Albemarle County one time.

530
00:24:14,568 --> 00:24:16,431
So I kind of delivered the rail.

531
00:24:16,431 --> 00:24:21,231
So Albemarle can is really wonderful to see.

532
00:24:21,931 --> 00:24:22,431
Think.

533
00:24:22,431 --> 00:24:26,310
Thank you, Cheryl, You all right?

534
00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:29,594
We will move to item B under six.

535
00:24:29,594 --> 00:24:32,177
We have the Virginia Association of Counties achievement award

536
00:24:32,177 --> 00:24:35,483
we have with us Jeremy Bennett, the Vaiko

537
00:24:35,483 --> 00:24:38,320
director of Intergovernmental Affairs and we'll

538
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,720
have some staff joining Mr. Bennett after his remarks.

539
00:24:43,911 --> 00:24:45,351
Yes, Well, thank you, Mr. Chair.

540
00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:46,251
Members of the board.

541
00:24:46,251 --> 00:24:46,881
Good afternoon.

542
00:24:46,881 --> 00:24:47,964
My name is Jeremy Bennett.

543
00:24:47,964 --> 00:24:50,564
I said Director of Governmental Affairs

544
00:24:50,564 --> 00:24:52,314
with the Virginia Association of Counties.

545
00:24:52,314 --> 00:24:55,710
It's my pleasure to be back in my former home

546
00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:56,610
county of Albemarle.

547
00:24:56,610 --> 00:24:58,110
And before I begin the presentation,

548
00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:00,891
just allow me to say what a privileges to follow

549
00:25:00,891 --> 00:25:02,661
the proclamation for Kosovo.

550
00:25:02,661 --> 00:25:05,181
I mean, recognizing that local history just

551
00:25:05,181 --> 00:25:07,101
shows how great Virginia is and, you know,

552
00:25:07,101 --> 00:25:09,687
great the local government can do that.

553
00:25:09,687 --> 00:25:11,745
But it is my distinct privilege today

554
00:25:11,745 --> 00:25:13,509
to present the Bako Achievement Awards

555
00:25:13,509 --> 00:25:16,359
all county and for the benefit of your constituents

556
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,901
may not be familiar with the Virginia

557
00:25:17,901 --> 00:25:19,491
Association of Counties.

558
00:25:19,491 --> 00:25:22,851
Baker was it existed since 1934 to serve and support

559
00:25:22,851 --> 00:25:24,681
your efforts as county officials.

560
00:25:24,681 --> 00:25:28,179
We support counties in many ways versus through our advocacy

561
00:25:28,179 --> 00:25:30,471
efforts in the state legislature and the federal level.

562
00:25:30,471 --> 00:25:31,911
And we also serve counties through

563
00:25:31,911 --> 00:25:34,821
our educational programs, member services and communications

564
00:25:34,821 --> 00:25:35,601
efforts.

565
00:25:35,601 --> 00:25:37,371
And I'd be remiss of not recognizing

566
00:25:37,371 --> 00:25:39,891
Supervisor Malik, who is on the Baker Board of directors

567
00:25:39,891 --> 00:25:43,521
and a former Baker president But in 2003, we

568
00:25:43,521 --> 00:25:45,528
established our achievement award program

569
00:25:45,528 --> 00:25:48,111
to recognize counties that have adopted innovative approaches,

570
00:25:48,111 --> 00:25:50,691
providing public services and identifying programs

571
00:25:50,691 --> 00:25:53,116
that could serve as models for other counties to emulate.

572
00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:55,491
And today, I'm very proud to present Albemarle County one

573
00:25:55,491 --> 00:25:58,311
Achievement Award for the 44 program,

574
00:25:58,311 --> 00:26:00,861
and I know there will be folks who could speak more to it

575
00:26:00,861 --> 00:26:04,431
But just it's amazing to see the strategic vision of the county,

576
00:26:04,431 --> 00:26:07,106
that community engagement as you plan

577
00:26:07,106 --> 00:26:10,611
for smart growth in a very dynamic and growing community

578
00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:11,991
So this is very close.

579
00:26:11,991 --> 00:26:14,991
24th Annual Achievement Awards program.

580
00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:18,471
And this year we received 103 entries,

581
00:26:18,471 --> 00:26:22,328
of which only 40 winners were selected from 26 counties.

582
00:26:22,328 --> 00:26:24,411
So as you can tell, is a truly competitive program

583
00:26:24,411 --> 00:26:27,722
is less than 40% of the entries were selected as winners.

584
00:26:27,722 --> 00:26:31,292
I was kind of a rock star of this program.

585
00:26:31,292 --> 00:26:34,213
You won the achievement awards 11 times already,

586
00:26:34,213 --> 00:26:37,851
and you're tied for 12th all time awards across

587
00:26:37,851 --> 00:26:39,681
the Commonwealth of Virginia.

588
00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:42,201
You won a achievement award four years in a row,

589
00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:44,220
five of the past Six years.

590
00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:48,532
And you want to achieve in one thing or another year of 2003

591
00:26:48,532 --> 00:26:50,961
and one awards since 2005 and 2000

592
00:26:50,961 --> 00:26:52,961
Eight, 16, 18, 21, 23, 24 and 25.

593
00:26:54,204 --> 00:26:56,984
So keep, keep, keep on rolling with the applications.

594
00:26:56,984 --> 00:27:00,411
You guys are really knocking it out of the park

595
00:27:00,411 --> 00:27:03,201
And when our judges were evaluating criteria,

596
00:27:03,201 --> 00:27:05,243
several the guidelines that they looked into,

597
00:27:05,243 --> 00:27:07,410
you know, winning and winning programs.

598
00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:08,124
What does a program offer?

599
00:27:08,124 --> 00:27:10,161
An innovative solution to a problem situation

600
00:27:10,161 --> 00:27:11,203
or deliver your services?

601
00:27:11,203 --> 00:27:14,361
Is does the program promote intergovernmental cooperation

602
00:27:14,361 --> 00:27:17,310
and is it a model that other local governments can look to

603
00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:21,831
and the ACA 44 definitely hits all those criteria.

604
00:27:22,824 --> 00:27:27,201
I believe that Tonya Swartz and Trooper James Wilkinson and then

605
00:27:27,201 --> 00:27:28,376
all might be here.

606
00:27:28,376 --> 00:27:30,491
And I would turn the I turn it over

607
00:27:30,491 --> 00:27:32,371
to them to talk a little bit more

608
00:27:32,371 --> 00:27:34,754
about the program, the subject matter experts

609
00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:35,970
and then present the award.

610
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:37,592
And maybe get a picture that we could

611
00:27:37,592 --> 00:27:39,134
share with the rest of the membership

612
00:27:39,134 --> 00:27:44,534
at our annual conference this year right So unfortunately,

613
00:27:49,551 --> 00:27:51,621
Ben can be with us today.

614
00:27:51,621 --> 00:27:54,261
But I know you all have seen quite a bit of all three of us

615
00:27:54,261 --> 00:27:56,481
in the past year or two.

616
00:27:56,481 --> 00:27:59,601
I'm joined by James Wilkinson as well.

617
00:27:59,601 --> 00:28:04,701
So thank you to Vaiko for this honor on behalf of the County.

618
00:28:04,701 --> 00:28:08,361
I'm pleased to accept this achievement award for C 44.

619
00:28:08,361 --> 00:28:10,641
Our update to the county's comprehensive plan

620
00:28:10,641 --> 00:28:13,641
adopted just this past October.

621
00:28:13,701 --> 00:28:18,501
Albemarle expects to welcome 31,000 new resit events over

622
00:28:18,711 --> 00:28:20,331
the next 20 years.

623
00:28:20,331 --> 00:28:24,291
We set out to build a plan that was technically sound and shaped

624
00:28:24,291 --> 00:28:26,391
by the people who call our county

625
00:28:26,391 --> 00:28:29,991
home More than 2700 residents participated through 87

626
00:28:31,851 --> 00:28:34,851
public meetings, 39 questionnaires and tools

627
00:28:36,981 --> 00:28:39,591
like our TAC kits, which enabled neighbors

628
00:28:39,591 --> 00:28:43,401
to lead their own conversations and share their input with us.

629
00:28:43,401 --> 00:28:47,470
Today, our growth management policy continues to channel new

630
00:28:47,470 --> 00:28:51,256
development into just 5% of our growth area out

631
00:28:51,256 --> 00:28:57,256
of the county's land, while protecting 689mi² of rural area.

632
00:28:58,101 --> 00:29:01,701
For agricultural forestry and conservation Paired

633
00:29:02,691 --> 00:29:06,291
with our seven big moves that turn this 20 year vision

634
00:29:06,291 --> 00:29:09,231
into a near into near term priorities.

635
00:29:09,231 --> 00:29:14,310
8044 gives us practical bridge between long range planning

636
00:29:14,241 --> 00:29:16,463
and everyday decision making.

637
00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:18,921
I'd like to thank our Board of Supervisors ERs and Planning

638
00:29:18,921 --> 00:29:22,671
Commission, our leadership Yep, our internal and external

639
00:29:22,671 --> 00:29:25,161
partners and above all, our residents

640
00:29:25,161 --> 00:29:29,811
whose voices are reflected on every page of AC 44.

641
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:30,681
Looking forward.

642
00:29:30,681 --> 00:29:34,221
AC 44 Implementation is now in full swing

643
00:29:34,221 --> 00:29:37,191
across efforts that include zoning modernization

644
00:29:37,191 --> 00:29:40,611
and multi-modal transportation planning and activity center

645
00:29:40,611 --> 00:29:41,721
planning.

646
00:29:41,721 --> 00:29:42,441
Thank you again.

647
00:29:42,441 --> 00:29:46,410
To echo for this award Great.

648
00:29:46,281 --> 00:29:48,891
And I see people jumping in.

649
00:29:48,891 --> 00:29:53,910
We're going to have the chief Congratulations.

650
00:29:57,813 --> 00:29:58,313
Thank you.

651
00:29:58,313 --> 00:30:00,510
I appreciate and supervise there's

652
00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:02,781
any remarks supervisor of Mr. currently.

653
00:30:02,781 --> 00:30:06,236
Thank you for bringing this award to us,

654
00:30:06,236 --> 00:30:12,613
and thank you for all the work the staff has done frankly,

655
00:30:12,613 --> 00:30:14,551
to earn this at.

656
00:30:14,551 --> 00:30:18,426
I commend our staff for making our county truly one

657
00:30:18,426 --> 00:30:19,588
of excellence.

658
00:30:19,588 --> 00:30:22,778
In my opinion So thank you.

659
00:30:22,778 --> 00:30:25,671
And thank you, Jeremy, for coming.

660
00:30:25,671 --> 00:30:27,278
Supervisor Malik Thank you.

661
00:30:27,278 --> 00:30:31,311
Being old I can say that I first participated in the review

662
00:30:31,311 --> 00:30:33,771
in 1985, and the reason that I've

663
00:30:33,771 --> 00:30:39,171
been so strident about having community action on this

664
00:30:39,651 --> 00:30:41,991
is because of all the thousands of our predecessors

665
00:30:41,991 --> 00:30:44,518
who weighed in at every five year interval and all

666
00:30:44,518 --> 00:30:47,211
those different chapters all these years, who

667
00:30:47,211 --> 00:30:48,981
have built where we are today.

668
00:30:48,981 --> 00:30:51,561
And so sweeping it out and putting in something brand

669
00:30:51,561 --> 00:30:55,140
new was not honoring their effort as well.

670
00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:57,781
So I'm really pleased with where it turned out.

671
00:30:57,781 --> 00:30:59,994
I know it was a struggle and that's

672
00:30:59,994 --> 00:31:02,761
okay because things good things are hard to achieve.

673
00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:04,821
And I appreciate all of everybody's work.

674
00:31:04,821 --> 00:31:05,631
Thank you.

675
00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:07,631
Supervisor Duncan.

676
00:31:07,923 --> 00:31:09,381
Well, since I didn't participate in

677
00:31:09,381 --> 00:31:13,521
that, oh, I'm like super excited that, you know, I could.

678
00:31:13,521 --> 00:31:17,301
But no, it's a really great project.

679
00:31:17,301 --> 00:31:21,351
I was looking at the list of all the nominations and awards

680
00:31:21,351 --> 00:31:24,951
and there's a lot of things that the counties are doing,

681
00:31:24,951 --> 00:31:28,943
and I imagine deciding which ones are worth the awards is

682
00:31:28,943 --> 00:31:30,155
a lot of effort.

683
00:31:30,155 --> 00:31:32,335
So thank you to Vaiko for doing this.

684
00:31:32,335 --> 00:31:34,759
And also, I just stands out that, you

685
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,909
know that it was an achievement and you know a lot of people

686
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:40,991
participate voted and so it's nice kind of county award

687
00:31:40,991 --> 00:31:43,831
that you put in the work, and you

688
00:31:43,831 --> 00:31:47,301
can get a really good product supervisor prewitt,

689
00:31:47,301 --> 00:31:52,701
congratulations your at this was a really Herculean task

690
00:31:53,661 --> 00:31:54,879
that staff engaged with.

691
00:31:54,879 --> 00:31:59,310
I got to participate both as a member of the public

692
00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:02,751
and then as a supervisor for over a year in the same process,

693
00:32:02,751 --> 00:32:05,541
which is a fun experience.

694
00:32:05,541 --> 00:32:11,661
And I know i sometimes grouse that we are less politically

695
00:32:11,661 --> 00:32:14,661
engaged, popular, us and y'all.

696
00:32:15,204 --> 00:32:18,134
You all put in the work to make sure we got some engagement

697
00:32:18,134 --> 00:32:19,350
on this process.

698
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:20,839
And I know that's not always easy.

699
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,481
And required a lot of work from staff.

700
00:32:23,481 --> 00:32:25,223
So congratulate and very well deserved.

701
00:32:25,223 --> 00:32:28,131
I will also just add Mr. Bennett really

702
00:32:28,131 --> 00:32:32,154
is lauded on all these plaudits for Albemarle County

703
00:32:32,154 --> 00:32:35,491
But the thing I caught is that there's at least 11

704
00:32:35,491 --> 00:32:38,524
locality is that have won more awards than us.

705
00:32:38,524 --> 00:32:39,131
There.

706
00:32:39,131 --> 00:32:42,201
I don't really know how we change that,

707
00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:45,291
but I'm going to fight with the boards.

708
00:32:45,291 --> 00:32:47,151
I'm going to task, Mr. Richardson

709
00:32:47,151 --> 00:32:48,621
to make sure that we catch up.

710
00:32:48,621 --> 00:32:50,644
I want to be at least top five.

711
00:32:50,644 --> 00:32:52,311
I don't even know who's in the top five,

712
00:32:52,311 --> 00:32:56,751
but I want to be in the top five,

713
00:32:56,751 --> 00:33:00,624
make a motion We have to make a motion

714
00:33:00,624 --> 00:33:03,291
to up our game as we should be applying

715
00:33:03,291 --> 00:33:06,487
to every single category supervisor missile.

716
00:33:06,487 --> 00:33:07,373
Thank you.

717
00:33:07,373 --> 00:33:08,554
I congratulate lations.

718
00:33:08,554 --> 00:33:10,326
You said 87 public meetings.

719
00:33:10,326 --> 00:33:13,279
I mean, it's a Herculean effort, right?

720
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,210
And so it's great to take time to celebrate

721
00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:18,931
and it's also great to start thinking ahead.

722
00:33:18,931 --> 00:33:19,578
Right.

723
00:33:19,578 --> 00:33:23,134
Looking forward to what this really means for the county.

724
00:33:23,134 --> 00:33:25,721
Also, super tricky trying to balance,

725
00:33:25,721 --> 00:33:27,173
you know economic development.

726
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:27,896
Let's go.

727
00:33:27,896 --> 00:33:30,640
Let's get this moving and preserve our rural areas

728
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,955
at the same time I mean, you were walking a line

729
00:33:32,955 --> 00:33:33,919
the whole time.

730
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:34,821
You were doing it.

731
00:33:34,821 --> 00:33:36,411
So thank you.

732
00:33:36,411 --> 00:33:38,939
And thank Ben for me when you see him.

733
00:33:38,939 --> 00:33:41,481
Yeah, we appreciate you coming down to acknowledge our staff.

734
00:33:41,481 --> 00:33:44,734
I mean, you know, as I work through these kind of things

735
00:33:44,734 --> 00:33:47,271
you just expect that the process is the norm because that's

736
00:33:47,271 --> 00:33:48,885
how we're doing it, right?

737
00:33:48,885 --> 00:33:49,577
It's like.

738
00:33:49,577 --> 00:33:51,951
And I would imagine other places do a similar have

739
00:33:51,951 --> 00:33:53,661
a similar kind of reaction.

740
00:33:53,661 --> 00:33:55,983
But it's nice when somebody outside looking in.

741
00:33:55,983 --> 00:33:59,986
I identifies or acknowledges that know that process

742
00:33:59,986 --> 00:34:01,238
is a pretty good one.

743
00:34:01,238 --> 00:34:03,116
And it's one that others can look to.

744
00:34:03,116 --> 00:34:05,620
So you all should be very proud of the work that you

745
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:06,872
that you did with that.

746
00:34:06,872 --> 00:34:09,171
And thankful to Vaiko for pointing that out And then

747
00:34:09,171 --> 00:34:12,210
like fashion those others that were winning awards

748
00:34:12,210 --> 00:34:14,211
as well, that we look there and go, okay, can we

749
00:34:14,211 --> 00:34:15,953
you know, the sign of award winners

750
00:34:15,953 --> 00:34:17,661
is that they're constantly looking around

751
00:34:17,661 --> 00:34:19,973
to figure out how to get better, which

752
00:34:19,973 --> 00:34:21,924
is probably part and parcel to winning

753
00:34:21,924 --> 00:34:23,400
some acknowledgment award.

754
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,107
So look forward to continue you that kind of learning.

755
00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:29,817
So thank you very much for being with us today.

756
00:34:29,817 --> 00:34:33,177
And did you get your pictures for the little satisfy

757
00:34:33,177 --> 00:34:34,185
everything OK.

758
00:34:34,185 --> 00:34:34,944
Very good.

759
00:34:34,944 --> 00:34:36,300
Thank you very much.

760
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:37,610
Thank you so much.

761
00:34:37,610 --> 00:34:38,288
You all have a good day.

762
00:34:38,288 --> 00:34:40,871
I'm going to join Stefan Carter Mountain before his actor Rich

763
00:34:40,871 --> 00:34:41,371
self.

764
00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:44,371
Thank you, Jerry Congratulations again.

765
00:34:44,792 --> 00:34:45,745
Thank you.

766
00:34:45,745 --> 00:34:46,381
OK.

767
00:34:46,381 --> 00:34:47,334
All right.

768
00:34:47,334 --> 00:34:48,923
Board our next item.

769
00:34:48,923 --> 00:34:51,465
See what I'm on this reluctant to have

770
00:34:51,465 --> 00:34:55,791
to do but it is a resolution of appreciation for Police Chief

771
00:34:55,791 --> 00:34:57,810
Shaun Reeves.

772
00:34:57,810 --> 00:34:59,541
And I'm going to take my prerogative as chair

773
00:34:59,541 --> 00:35:03,111
to read this proclamation in the form of a motion

774
00:35:03,111 --> 00:35:05,661
resolution of appreciation for Shawn Reeves.

775
00:35:05,661 --> 00:35:09,351
Whereas Colonel Shawn Reeves has completed more than 30 years

776
00:35:09,351 --> 00:35:12,530
of public service beginning as a military police

777
00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:16,298
officer in the United States Army from 1996 to 2000, one.

778
00:35:16,298 --> 00:35:19,115
And as a sworn lay in law enforcement officer

779
00:35:19,115 --> 00:35:21,450
in the Commonwealth of Virginia and.

780
00:35:21,450 --> 00:35:23,452
Whereas, Colonel Reeves has faithfully

781
00:35:23,452 --> 00:35:27,330
served the County of Albemarle for 25 years First joining

782
00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:30,127
the Albemarle County Police Department as a patrol

783
00:35:30,127 --> 00:35:33,973
officer in 2000, one, steadily advancing through several roles

784
00:35:33,973 --> 00:35:37,801
before being appointed chief of police in 2022.

785
00:35:37,801 --> 00:35:38,301
And.

786
00:35:38,301 --> 00:35:41,310
Whereas, during his time with CPD,

787
00:35:41,310 --> 00:35:42,741
Colonel Reeves played a pivotal role

788
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in several priority projects, including

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00:35:45,201 --> 00:35:48,711
creating the Cyber Crimes Unit, developing a community coalition

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00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:51,210
around mental health crisis response,

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00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:53,601
advancing the body worn camera program,

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00:35:53,601 --> 00:35:57,291
and serving as the lead AC PD representative on the county's

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00:35:57,291 --> 00:36:00,510
incident management teams for Covid 19.

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00:36:00,510 --> 00:36:03,961
The at ready statue removal and the events of August 12th.

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00:36:03,961 --> 00:36:04,461
And.

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00:36:04,461 --> 00:36:07,671
Whereas, Colonel Reeves provided leadership in key initiatives

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00:36:07,671 --> 00:36:09,981
to ensure an effective response to mental health

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00:36:09,981 --> 00:36:13,581
emergencies including launching the Human Services Alternative

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00:36:13,581 --> 00:36:16,971
Response Team or Heart, which established the county's Cobra

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00:36:16,971 --> 00:36:20,214
sponsor model for behavioral health crises Crises

801
00:36:20,214 --> 00:36:22,655
through collaboration among law enforcement.

802
00:36:22,655 --> 00:36:25,502
Fire Rescue. fire and social service professionals

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00:36:25,502 --> 00:36:27,535
and opening into crises.

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00:36:27,535 --> 00:36:30,141
Innovate prevention Team Assessment Center

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00:36:30,141 --> 00:36:32,341
and partnership with Region ten.

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00:36:32,341 --> 00:36:32,841
And.

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00:36:32,841 --> 00:36:34,611
Whereas, Colonel Reeves championed

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00:36:34,611 --> 00:36:36,651
the safety of our community through initiatives

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00:36:36,651 --> 00:36:38,871
such as Rescue Task Force Training,

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00:36:38,871 --> 00:36:41,691
building relationship ups with local and statewide public

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00:36:41,691 --> 00:36:45,171
safety partners, participating in the Project Safe Neighborhood

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00:36:45,171 --> 00:36:47,211
Partnership and Training Officers,

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00:36:47,211 --> 00:36:49,851
and the use of Narcan in the field, which resulted

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00:36:49,851 --> 00:36:51,721
in dozens of lives saved.

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00:36:51,721 --> 00:36:52,221
And.

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00:36:52,221 --> 00:36:54,531
Whereas, During his tenure as Chief of police,

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00:36:54,531 --> 00:36:57,711
Colonel Reeves modernized law enforcement practices

818
00:36:57,711 --> 00:36:59,631
to meet the needs of a growing community,

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00:36:59,631 --> 00:37:03,141
he championed initiatives to attract and retain high quality

820
00:37:03,141 --> 00:37:06,321
police officers His updated departmental policies

821
00:37:06,321 --> 00:37:09,111
and procedures to improve service delivery

822
00:37:09,111 --> 00:37:11,691
and establishment employee mental and physical

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00:37:11,691 --> 00:37:15,801
wellness program to ensure ACP officers have access

824
00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:18,351
to the resource they need to effectively respond

825
00:37:18,351 --> 00:37:21,231
to calls for service and sustain long term

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00:37:21,231 --> 00:37:22,660
careers in law enforcement.

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00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:24,517
Now, therefore be it.

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Resolved by the Albemarle County Board of Supervisors

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00:37:26,992 --> 00:37:29,391
that Colonel Shawn reeves is hereby honored

830
00:37:29,391 --> 00:37:32,391
and commended for his many years of exceptional service

831
00:37:32,391 --> 00:37:33,921
to the County of Albemarle.

832
00:37:33,921 --> 00:37:35,811
The Albemarle County Police Department,

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00:37:35,811 --> 00:37:39,210
Albemarle County residents, the broader community in which we

834
00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:42,171
live, and the entire Commonwealth of Virginia with

835
00:37:42,171 --> 00:37:44,751
knowledge that Albemarle County is strengthened

836
00:37:44,751 --> 00:37:48,741
and distinguished by Colonel Reeves dedication commitment,

837
00:37:48,741 --> 00:37:52,401
professionalism and compassion in meeting community needs

838
00:37:52,401 --> 00:37:55,139
and be it further resolved that a copy of this resolution be

839
00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:57,681
spread upon the minutes of this meeting of the Alabama County

840
00:37:57,681 --> 00:38:00,210
Board of Supervisors as a lasting,

841
00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:03,531
visible testament to the esteem in which Colonel Reeves is held

842
00:38:03,531 --> 00:38:06,531
by this board and previous for its for his lasting legacy

843
00:38:06,531 --> 00:38:10,251
of community service and the tangible results from his work

844
00:38:10,251 --> 00:38:13,581
to make Albemarle County better for future generations Signed

845
00:38:13,581 --> 00:38:17,781
this 19th day of August 2026, second rate.

846
00:38:17,799 --> 00:38:20,910
The motion has been made and seconded without objection

847
00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:21,891
if the clerk will please call the roll.

848
00:38:21,891 --> 00:38:22,941
Mr. Galloway.

849
00:38:22,941 --> 00:38:24,681
Yes, Mr. Curtly.

850
00:38:24,681 --> 00:38:26,121
I miss Malik.

851
00:38:26,121 --> 00:38:27,171
Yes.

852
00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:27,981
Mr. Missal.

853
00:38:27,981 --> 00:38:30,532
Hi, Mr. Pruitt Hi, Ms..

854
00:38:30,532 --> 00:38:31,710
Duncan.

855
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:32,391
Yes.

856
00:38:32,391 --> 00:38:37,521
And Chief would love to have you join us for some remarks.

857
00:38:37,521 --> 00:38:40,791
Mr. Richardson, do you want to make any remarks as the chief is

858
00:38:40,791 --> 00:38:42,172
coming forward?

859
00:38:42,172 --> 00:38:43,710
Mr. Chair, thank you.

860
00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:47,271
This organization yesterday enjoyed a wonderful opportunity

861
00:38:47,361 --> 00:38:50,552
to spend some time with Sean and his family,

862
00:38:50,552 --> 00:38:52,910
as well as the Moore County Police

863
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:57,801
Department, some retired special guest who were here yesterday

864
00:38:57,801 --> 00:38:59,331
celebrating Shawn.

865
00:38:59,331 --> 00:39:02,421
And so we tell folks that were there yesterday

866
00:39:02,421 --> 00:39:05,871
that today would be another opportunity at the board.

867
00:39:05,871 --> 00:39:09,501
A superb officers level in a public meeting

868
00:39:09,501 --> 00:39:14,511
to thank our six police chief since the inception

869
00:39:14,511 --> 00:39:17,301
of our police department in 1984 for his service

870
00:39:17,301 --> 00:39:20,661
to not just this county, but to our nation

871
00:39:20,661 --> 00:39:24,510
and to celebrate a wonderful full service

872
00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:28,911
retirement and 30 years of service to our United States.

873
00:39:28,911 --> 00:39:31,341
The state of Virginia and Albemarle County.

874
00:39:31,341 --> 00:39:34,281
So with that, Mr. Chair, I'll turn it back over to you.

875
00:39:34,281 --> 00:39:35,856
And thank you to the board members

876
00:39:35,856 --> 00:39:38,556
who were able to come yesterday and thank you for the board's

877
00:39:38,556 --> 00:39:39,681
attention to this today.

878
00:39:39,681 --> 00:39:42,544
And Chief, we would love it If you made some remarks

879
00:39:42,544 --> 00:39:46,740
and then we're going to talk about you to you have here done.

880
00:39:46,740 --> 00:39:47,839
Thank you, Chair Galloway and members

881
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:49,604
of the board for the kind remarks

882
00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,133
on both humbled and honored today,

883
00:39:52,133 --> 00:39:57,891
I am joined by my beautiful wife, Christina Reeves, and also

884
00:39:57,891 --> 00:39:59,301
the acting chief of police.

885
00:39:59,301 --> 00:40:03,891
Now Major range Jamison, as well as people from our team.

886
00:40:03,891 --> 00:40:06,921
Everything that you've listed those accomplishments

887
00:40:06,921 --> 00:40:10,341
and achievement of the would not have

888
00:40:10,341 --> 00:40:13,911
been possible, quite frankly, without the support

889
00:40:13,911 --> 00:40:17,263
from across the organization without the work of the men

890
00:40:17,263 --> 00:40:19,221
and women, the Elmore County Police Department,

891
00:40:19,221 --> 00:40:21,621
my job was easy as providing vision and direction.

892
00:40:21,621 --> 00:40:25,371
It is people like Major Jamerson Officer Carson

893
00:40:25,371 --> 00:40:29,211
members, my command staff that really pushed those initiatives

894
00:40:29,211 --> 00:40:34,764
forward, even though I realize that i joke with Mr. Henry

895
00:40:34,764 --> 00:40:38,375
that Deputy County Executive, the cops hit two things.

896
00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:39,270
They hate change.

897
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:45,383
They hate the way things are so knowing that and still managing

898
00:40:45,383 --> 00:40:47,783
to execute change leadership.

899
00:40:48,146 --> 00:40:51,397
And the past four and a half years, it

900
00:40:51,397 --> 00:40:53,274
truly has been my honor and privilege

901
00:40:53,274 --> 00:40:55,957
to serve this county as the chief of police.

902
00:40:55,957 --> 00:40:58,371
And then looking back, as Richard Richardson says

903
00:40:58,371 --> 00:41:01,580
for 25 years and serving and our police department

904
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:03,600
served this community.

905
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,928
For more than half of the police department's entire existence,

906
00:41:06,928 --> 00:41:09,223
it really hits home with me.

907
00:41:09,223 --> 00:41:11,438
And I have full faith and confidence

908
00:41:11,438 --> 00:41:14,286
that our police department is in great hands.

909
00:41:14,286 --> 00:41:16,818
We're we're headed in the right direction.

910
00:41:16,818 --> 00:41:17,961
Absolutely.

911
00:41:17,961 --> 00:41:21,531
With the help of Christy Shiflett and her team.

912
00:41:21,531 --> 00:41:23,961
But more importantly, the deputy county executive,

913
00:41:23,961 --> 00:41:25,191
Mr. Trevor Henry.

914
00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:28,191
And for Jeff Richardson's leadership,

915
00:41:28,761 --> 00:41:32,961
Jeff, really in Trevor both push me

916
00:41:33,951 --> 00:41:36,591
and challenged me to get out of my comfort zone

917
00:41:36,591 --> 00:41:39,681
and be a better leader and a better person that ultimately

918
00:41:39,681 --> 00:41:41,361
made me a better chief of police.

919
00:41:41,361 --> 00:41:43,410
And for that I'll always be grateful.

920
00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:45,141
So thank you, gentlemen, and thank you

921
00:41:45,141 --> 00:41:48,561
to this board for your unwavering support through some

922
00:41:48,561 --> 00:41:50,751
of the most difficult times in law enforcement

923
00:41:50,751 --> 00:41:53,511
that we've had in the past decade.

924
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:56,421
In my senior leadership, through a global pandemic,

925
00:41:56,421 --> 00:41:59,610
through the Unite the Right rally, through the KKK rallies,

926
00:41:59,610 --> 00:42:02,504
even though the that does happen in the city of Charlottesville,

927
00:42:02,504 --> 00:42:04,851
our jurisdiction, as you know, it

928
00:42:04,851 --> 00:42:07,492
was sucked directly into those of the statue removal

929
00:42:07,492 --> 00:42:09,809
being the first jurisdiction to legally remove

930
00:42:09,809 --> 00:42:14,898
a statue during that time in our in our state's history.

931
00:42:14,898 --> 00:42:18,976
And being part of that plus other significant major criminal

932
00:42:18,976 --> 00:42:19,661
investigations.

933
00:42:19,661 --> 00:42:22,580
It's really been my honor and privilege

934
00:42:22,580 --> 00:42:23,771
to serve this community.

935
00:42:23,771 --> 00:42:28,131
And I thank you all for your support and continued support

936
00:42:28,131 --> 00:42:30,131
and take care.

937
00:42:30,201 --> 00:42:32,242
And you will be missed.

938
00:42:32,242 --> 00:42:33,291
Yes.

939
00:42:33,291 --> 00:42:36,891
Supervisor of pistol, currently, you know,

940
00:42:37,311 --> 00:42:39,591
this is going to be hard for me.

941
00:42:39,591 --> 00:42:42,171
I will get through it.

942
00:42:42,171 --> 00:42:46,110
You have been a steady and committed dude.

943
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:50,211
You have person in the police department

944
00:42:50,211 --> 00:42:52,611
that has shown progress Star community

945
00:42:52,611 --> 00:42:54,888
and you've continued to go forward.

946
00:42:54,888 --> 00:42:57,643
I'm just going to mention a few things

947
00:42:57,643 --> 00:43:00,742
that I think will resonate with our resident.

948
00:43:00,742 --> 00:43:03,806
Your collaborator should with the fire department

949
00:43:03,806 --> 00:43:07,592
has been extraordinary because it shows everybody.

950
00:43:07,592 --> 00:43:11,315
We're all on one team and we support you.

951
00:43:11,315 --> 00:43:13,746
And they look up to us, by the way.

952
00:43:13,746 --> 00:43:15,734
And they look up to the police department.

953
00:43:15,734 --> 00:43:16,618
So that helps.

954
00:43:16,618 --> 00:43:18,828
Of course, we look up to the police.

955
00:43:18,828 --> 00:43:20,897
They look up to the police department.

956
00:43:20,897 --> 00:43:22,522
Yeah, I'm going to catch heck for that.

957
00:43:22,522 --> 00:43:29,122
You know the body worn cameras shows that our community is

958
00:43:29,391 --> 00:43:33,966
you're showing transparency is showing what we can do.

959
00:43:33,966 --> 00:43:38,314
So that people, our community will trust us.

960
00:43:38,314 --> 00:43:39,917
That's extremely important.

961
00:43:39,917 --> 00:43:42,322
The hearts team shows innovation.

962
00:43:42,322 --> 00:43:46,971
And it shows you care because we're looking at helping people

963
00:43:46,971 --> 00:43:49,553
in a little bit different way.

964
00:43:49,553 --> 00:43:51,441
Cyber crimes, I think we're going

965
00:43:51,441 --> 00:43:56,181
to see that very, very busy every single year that that's

966
00:43:56,181 --> 00:44:00,381
really going to be right up there.

967
00:44:00,831 --> 00:44:06,471
But on a personal level, you can't live on a personal level,

968
00:44:06,471 --> 00:44:10,710
you have shown to be a remarkable leader

969
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:17,910
and to command everybody and to move move progress in such a way

970
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:19,761
that it wasn't a knee jerk reaction.

971
00:44:19,761 --> 00:44:21,171
It was well thought out.

972
00:44:21,171 --> 00:44:24,261
It was well presented, and it was well received.

973
00:44:24,261 --> 00:44:27,231
You've you've helped us, the police department,

974
00:44:27,231 --> 00:44:32,446
in so many areas to become a better community And for that.

975
00:44:32,446 --> 00:44:34,770
I'll always be thankful and grateful.

976
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:34,776
Thank you.

977
00:44:34,776 --> 00:44:35,475
Thank you.

978
00:44:35,475 --> 00:44:38,271
And if I may, sir, I'd be remiss if I

979
00:44:38,271 --> 00:44:40,431
didn't recognize Mr. Academic.

980
00:44:40,431 --> 00:44:44,241
When we talk about the heart team prior to her arrival,

981
00:44:44,241 --> 00:44:46,781
all I did was get vision, direction and start

982
00:44:46,781 --> 00:44:47,963
planting those seeds.

983
00:44:47,963 --> 00:44:51,506
It was it was all khaki that really took the leadership role

984
00:44:51,506 --> 00:44:53,869
and got it across the goal line.

985
00:44:53,869 --> 00:44:57,570
So I didn't want to stand here and take all the credit

986
00:44:57,570 --> 00:44:57,764
for that.

987
00:44:57,764 --> 00:45:01,680
When it was kalki back here that did a lot of the work.

988
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,247
So I know that.

989
00:45:02,247 --> 00:45:03,899
But I was waiting for Cathy retires

990
00:45:03,899 --> 00:45:07,499
to mention supervisor Malik Thank you,

991
00:45:09,486 --> 00:45:11,775
Sean and to all your department.

992
00:45:11,775 --> 00:45:15,451
And I'm talking a lot about my childhood today, which

993
00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:16,865
is surprising considering.

994
00:45:16,865 --> 00:45:21,814
But way back in the 50s, we had about 20,000 residents and one

995
00:45:21,814 --> 00:45:24,141
chair and he sat at the corner of Birch Road,

996
00:45:24,141 --> 00:45:27,346
and Tina Lane and waited for a call because where else would

997
00:45:27,346 --> 00:45:29,721
you go to be able to go in all those different directions

998
00:45:29,721 --> 00:45:33,321
and while previously ship prevented connections

999
00:45:34,371 --> 00:45:38,361
of officers on patrol with their constituents,

1000
00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:42,895
community policing has brought this whole new world to us here

1001
00:45:42,895 --> 00:45:46,720
and returned us basically to the old the old version,

1002
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:51,201
but brought our department to be a true anchor in our community.

1003
00:45:51,201 --> 00:45:54,531
I am so proud of the way the department has evolved

1004
00:45:54,531 --> 00:45:56,841
over the last 19 years, and I recognize

1005
00:45:56,841 --> 00:45:59,661
that that was a dramatic change that you all managed.

1006
00:45:59,661 --> 00:46:03,891
I know you mentioned officers don't generally like change of,

1007
00:46:03,891 --> 00:46:06,231
but there were staff who walked away

1008
00:46:06,231 --> 00:46:10,311
But to the tremendous credit to all who stayed,

1009
00:46:10,311 --> 00:46:12,921
we are so proud of what you have achieved.

1010
00:46:12,921 --> 00:46:16,671
Leaders such of you as you have guided all those successes.

1011
00:46:16,671 --> 00:46:19,110
Congratulations and thank you.

1012
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:20,910
Thank them.

1013
00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:23,691
Supervisor Duncan in the short time

1014
00:46:25,674 --> 00:46:27,591
that I have gone to kind of interact with you,

1015
00:46:27,591 --> 00:46:28,881
I've been very impressed.

1016
00:46:28,881 --> 00:46:31,710
And so, you know, everything that everyone

1017
00:46:31,710 --> 00:46:34,401
is saying rings true So thank you for your service.

1018
00:46:34,401 --> 00:46:36,591
And I did also just want to highlight you know,

1019
00:46:36,591 --> 00:46:40,101
the one thing that I'm really happy that we have is the heart

1020
00:46:40,101 --> 00:46:44,601
team and sort of having the vision for it,

1021
00:46:44,601 --> 00:46:47,151
but also being willing to work with Cathy

1022
00:46:47,151 --> 00:46:51,921
and willing to work with another department to do this

1023
00:46:51,921 --> 00:46:54,231
Not not everyone would do that.

1024
00:46:54,231 --> 00:46:56,601
Not every police chief is willing to do that.

1025
00:46:56,601 --> 00:46:59,571
And so I really appreciate your effort in doing that.

1026
00:46:59,571 --> 00:47:01,791
And the collaboration, because I think it's

1027
00:47:01,791 --> 00:47:03,801
really important that we have that.

1028
00:47:03,801 --> 00:47:05,691
And again, if I may, that's a testament

1029
00:47:05,691 --> 00:47:08,121
to Mr. Richardson in the culture that he

1030
00:47:08,121 --> 00:47:10,191
set in this county in his expectation

1031
00:47:10,191 --> 00:47:13,681
is that as leaders that we work together, collaborate to problem

1032
00:47:13,681 --> 00:47:14,181
solve.

1033
00:47:14,181 --> 00:47:17,181
So I appreciate the acknowledgment

1034
00:47:17,672 --> 00:47:19,200
but that that speaks volumes.

1035
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,110
It's not just me.

1036
00:47:20,110 --> 00:47:22,105
You could any department head could be up here

1037
00:47:22,105 --> 00:47:23,878
and they would do the same thing.

1038
00:47:23,878 --> 00:47:26,721
And collaborate cooperate with one another.

1039
00:47:26,721 --> 00:47:28,701
So thank you.

1040
00:47:28,701 --> 00:47:33,891
Supervisor Pruitt, thank you so much for your years of service

1041
00:47:33,891 --> 00:47:36,860
to this to this county.

1042
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:38,988
We have been through a period of a lot of change

1043
00:47:38,988 --> 00:47:41,335
as a county over the last several decades.

1044
00:47:41,335 --> 00:47:42,418
We've grown significantly.

1045
00:47:42,418 --> 00:47:45,801
And what we look like has changed a lot.

1046
00:47:45,801 --> 00:47:49,731
There's been a lot of changes as a country during that same time.

1047
00:47:49,731 --> 00:47:53,721
And unsurprisingly, like the Air Force and what

1048
00:47:53,721 --> 00:47:55,581
we expect out of police and the role

1049
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:58,821
of police in our jurisdiction has changed a lot.

1050
00:47:58,821 --> 00:48:02,931
And so much of that has been under your leadership really,

1051
00:48:02,931 --> 00:48:07,281
really dramatic changes in how we respond to and engage

1052
00:48:07,281 --> 00:48:10,677
with issues of mental health that you've led,

1053
00:48:10,677 --> 00:48:15,493
how we respond and engage with public unrest, how

1054
00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:18,561
we work with and don't work with,

1055
00:48:18,561 --> 00:48:20,561
sometimes challenging relationships

1056
00:48:20,661 --> 00:48:23,661
with state and federal partners.

1057
00:48:24,321 --> 00:48:28,731
You have led a really steady shift through that period

1058
00:48:28,731 --> 00:48:31,461
and this is also a period.

1059
00:48:31,461 --> 00:48:35,751
It's not lost on me right where police and elected officials

1060
00:48:35,751 --> 00:48:39,291
are often at loggerheads in a lot of jurisdictions.

1061
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:41,301
And that's especially true to put the Tiger

1062
00:48:41,301 --> 00:48:43,431
on the table of jurisdictions that

1063
00:48:43,431 --> 00:48:47,100
are led by Democrats during the last several years.

1064
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,581
And that, at least during my service on the board,

1065
00:48:49,581 --> 00:48:51,351
has not been the case.

1066
00:48:51,351 --> 00:48:54,201
And I think some of that is this board being

1067
00:48:54,201 --> 00:48:58,281
on the same level as you on in lockstep with your best self.

1068
00:48:58,281 --> 00:48:59,601
That's a two way street.

1069
00:48:59,601 --> 00:49:03,436
And I'm so grateful to have had the partnership of a police

1070
00:49:03,436 --> 00:49:05,946
department where I feel like we all

1071
00:49:05,946 --> 00:49:09,801
have a shared vision of how to protect and serve

1072
00:49:09,801 --> 00:49:10,701
this community.

1073
00:49:10,701 --> 00:49:12,651
And I'm very grateful for that.

1074
00:49:12,651 --> 00:49:17,100
And I'm also going to share a dumb, embarrassing story, which

1075
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:21,210
I think is appropriate on the moment of your retirement

1076
00:49:21,210 --> 00:49:25,296
The first time we, you and I met embarrassingly late,

1077
00:49:25,296 --> 00:49:26,421
I had already been elected.

1078
00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:30,891
And my apologies and I had not met you or actually

1079
00:49:30,891 --> 00:49:31,881
seen you before.

1080
00:49:31,881 --> 00:49:37,131
And when I met you, I this is a very inappropriate response.

1081
00:49:37,131 --> 00:49:37,971
And I regret it.

1082
00:49:37,971 --> 00:49:41,601
But I said, wow, you're the chief of police here.

1083
00:49:41,601 --> 00:49:44,421
You're very young to be the chief of police is what I said.

1084
00:49:44,421 --> 00:49:47,513
Could control myself the First thing out of my mouth.

1085
00:49:47,513 --> 00:49:51,974
And, like, sir, I've been in law enforcement for over 25 years.

1086
00:49:51,974 --> 00:49:53,890
I've years old.

1087
00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:56,931
To which I said that hot damn double congratulations.

1088
00:49:56,931 --> 00:50:00,510
I wouldn't have guessed that this

1089
00:50:00,510 --> 00:50:03,411
is all just to say you're now going to go to him and say,

1090
00:50:03,411 --> 00:50:06,350
I'm a retired Third career law enforcement officer,

1091
00:50:06,350 --> 00:50:09,776
and so many other people are going to say, How dare you?

1092
00:50:09,776 --> 00:50:12,776
So young Thank you, sir.

1093
00:50:13,701 --> 00:50:14,841
Thank you for that.

1094
00:50:14,841 --> 00:50:18,651
And I really appreciate, again, the support and the recognition

1095
00:50:18,651 --> 00:50:23,444
for the trials, tribulations that our police officers have

1096
00:50:23,444 --> 00:50:28,190
gone through and recognizing the political, political climate

1097
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:30,561
and just understanding with respect

1098
00:50:30,561 --> 00:50:33,132
to our elected officials, it is imperative.

1099
00:50:33,132 --> 00:50:35,704
And that is one thing that, again,

1100
00:50:35,704 --> 00:50:39,711
that I believe in as chief of police, as a chief of police

1101
00:50:39,711 --> 00:50:42,381
unlike elected officials, we have to be apolitical.

1102
00:50:42,381 --> 00:50:43,341
We serve our community.

1103
00:50:43,341 --> 00:50:45,951
We're public service just like every other part of it,

1104
00:50:45,951 --> 00:50:50,357
but especially so it that we don't take political sides.

1105
00:50:50,357 --> 00:50:54,759
We force the laws as they are, not as they should be.

1106
00:50:54,759 --> 00:50:56,961
And we're tasked with uphold the Constitution

1107
00:50:56,961 --> 00:51:00,831
And I think that that is impaired live as a chief

1108
00:51:00,831 --> 00:51:04,641
and as officers that we remember that.

1109
00:51:04,641 --> 00:51:08,983
Supervisor Menzel thank you I have a couple of observations.

1110
00:51:08,983 --> 00:51:11,612
And I think one, regret I'll start with the regret

1111
00:51:11,612 --> 00:51:14,481
and that is that I haven't had an opportunity to really work

1112
00:51:14,481 --> 00:51:16,851
with you for very long, and I would

1113
00:51:16,851 --> 00:51:19,491
have liked that a great deal.

1114
00:51:19,491 --> 00:51:22,369
Second observation is 30 years of service.

1115
00:51:22,369 --> 00:51:24,411
I didn't realize you could start in this business

1116
00:51:24,411 --> 00:51:29,301
when you were ten, she recalls her first comment.

1117
00:51:29,301 --> 00:51:31,491
The other is that as I've been listening to you,

1118
00:51:31,491 --> 00:51:33,801
you spent almost your entire time

1119
00:51:33,801 --> 00:51:38,691
deflecting praise and sharing it and pointing to others

1120
00:51:38,691 --> 00:51:42,171
and away from yourself and to me that

1121
00:51:42,171 --> 00:51:46,671
rises to the top of the most the strongest characteristic

1122
00:51:46,671 --> 00:51:49,370
of a true great leader.

1123
00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:52,928
So congratulations and looking forward to next steps for you.

1124
00:51:52,928 --> 00:51:54,404
Thank you, sir.

1125
00:51:54,404 --> 00:51:58,662
Yeah, I echo both your too young and to the the the

1126
00:51:58,662 --> 00:52:00,905
marks and the signs of good leadership.

1127
00:52:00,905 --> 00:52:04,832
You know I have a gratitude for you and the service you've done.

1128
00:52:04,832 --> 00:52:07,356
I think the thing that is unusual for anybody

1129
00:52:07,356 --> 00:52:10,557
in any organization these days is the fact that you went

1130
00:52:10,557 --> 00:52:13,196
from patrol officer to chief in one organization,

1131
00:52:13,196 --> 00:52:15,835
and that's remarkable, especially in this time.

1132
00:52:15,835 --> 00:52:20,292
And but I think the unique thing, in addition

1133
00:52:20,292 --> 00:52:25,131
to the remarks that have been made, is that I think now is

1134
00:52:25,131 --> 00:52:28,371
and I've held chiefs, you and those who come

1135
00:52:28,371 --> 00:52:30,441
before you in very high regard.

1136
00:52:30,441 --> 00:52:33,291
But now moving forward, you have kind of

1137
00:52:33,291 --> 00:52:35,871
helped us shape the mold of what we want our chief to be.

1138
00:52:35,871 --> 00:52:38,121
And out Mercer County, because of the things that

1139
00:52:38,121 --> 00:52:40,311
have been mentioned, we share an idea

1140
00:52:40,311 --> 00:52:43,581
and a sense of how policing should happen in our county.

1141
00:52:43,581 --> 00:52:44,841
We've been on the same page.

1142
00:52:44,841 --> 00:52:46,941
We have found different things to put in place

1143
00:52:46,941 --> 00:52:50,781
that kind of back up what that philosophy or that approach is.

1144
00:52:50,781 --> 00:52:55,110
But you know, the person that solidify it and truly

1145
00:52:55,110 --> 00:52:57,254
molded it together has been you and the leadership

1146
00:52:57,254 --> 00:52:57,921
that you've had.

1147
00:52:57,921 --> 00:52:59,871
So I think that's something that you

1148
00:52:59,871 --> 00:53:03,561
should be incredibly proud of and know that every chief that

1149
00:53:03,561 --> 00:53:05,151
comes after you is going to be judged

1150
00:53:05,151 --> 00:53:08,151
against what you have molded for this position here in Albemarle.

1151
00:53:08,151 --> 00:53:10,581
And I think that's something you should be very proud of.

1152
00:53:10,581 --> 00:53:13,191
So with that, in joining with all the remarks

1153
00:53:13,191 --> 00:53:14,631
that have been said, I just again,

1154
00:53:14,631 --> 00:53:17,200
on behalf of the Board of Supervisors in the county,

1155
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,851
we all appreciate what you have done

1156
00:53:18,851 --> 00:53:20,584
for all the residents of the county,

1157
00:53:20,584 --> 00:53:22,101
knowing that we're a better place.

1158
00:53:22,101 --> 00:53:24,484
And a better community because of all of your service.

1159
00:53:24,484 --> 00:53:27,840
So thank you much, Shawn, and enjoy your retirement.

1160
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,884
Well, our remarks thank you for Well, I

1161
00:53:52,672 --> 00:53:58,672
can think about a number of safe travels All right.

1162
00:54:15,991 --> 00:54:16,491
Thank you.

1163
00:54:16,491 --> 00:54:18,491
Board.

1164
00:54:18,741 --> 00:54:22,971
See if we can get caught up on some time in.

1165
00:54:22,971 --> 00:54:23,961
But we have public.

1166
00:54:23,961 --> 00:54:27,591
Our next item is item seven public comment

1167
00:54:27,591 --> 00:54:29,421
matters previously considered are currently

1168
00:54:29,421 --> 00:54:31,296
pending before the board other than scheduled

1169
00:54:31,296 --> 00:54:32,601
for public hearing.

1170
00:54:32,601 --> 00:54:35,781
We have no one signed up, so we will move to item number

1171
00:54:35,781 --> 00:54:39,671
eight, which is our consent agenda And I did.

1172
00:54:39,671 --> 00:54:41,421
I'm not aware of anything that needs to be

1173
00:54:41,421 --> 00:54:43,431
pulled from that from consent.

1174
00:54:43,431 --> 00:54:46,581
Are there any items, is there a motion

1175
00:54:46,581 --> 00:54:48,411
to adopt the consent agenda?

1176
00:54:48,411 --> 00:54:49,771
Some of the second.

1177
00:54:49,771 --> 00:54:50,271
All right.

1178
00:54:50,271 --> 00:54:52,101
The motion has been made and seconded.

1179
00:54:52,101 --> 00:54:55,101
Without objection, the clerk will please call the roll

1180
00:54:55,101 --> 00:54:56,100
Mr. Galloway?

1181
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:56,811
Yes.

1182
00:54:56,811 --> 00:54:57,311
You.

1183
00:54:57,311 --> 00:54:58,641
So currently I miss Malik.

1184
00:54:58,641 --> 00:54:59,901
Yes, Mr. Missal.

1185
00:54:59,901 --> 00:55:01,101
All right, Mr. Pruitt.

1186
00:55:01,101 --> 00:55:02,211
I miss Duncan.

1187
00:55:02,211 --> 00:55:03,741
Yes.

1188
00:55:03,741 --> 00:55:05,872
All right The consent agenda is approved.

1189
00:55:05,872 --> 00:55:06,591
Thank you.

1190
00:55:06,591 --> 00:55:08,610
And that will take us to item, not

1191
00:55:08,610 --> 00:55:11,151
look at our four minutes ahead of schedule on item number nine,

1192
00:55:11,151 --> 00:55:13,971
Affordable rental housing incentive program

1193
00:55:13,971 --> 00:55:15,971
requested on Fifth.

1194
00:55:15,982 --> 00:55:18,225
And our director of housing, Stacey

1195
00:55:18,225 --> 00:55:20,788
Peth the MIC Jacob joining as well.

1196
00:55:20,788 --> 00:55:27,388
It kalki move into the front row Good afternoon Good afternoon.

1197
00:55:42,411 --> 00:55:45,171
I think i have this close enough to my mouth today.

1198
00:55:45,171 --> 00:55:48,861
I'm Stacey, the director of housing and i'm

1199
00:55:48,861 --> 00:55:52,401
here with Jacob Sumner, the Chief financial chief

1200
00:55:52,401 --> 00:55:54,401
finance Officer.

1201
00:55:54,681 --> 00:55:58,361
And we are here to please rent the affordable rental housing

1202
00:55:58,361 --> 00:56:00,994
Incentive program incentive request for the attain

1203
00:56:00,994 --> 00:56:02,498
on Fifth project.

1204
00:56:02,498 --> 00:56:05,507
I would like to note that you will

1205
00:56:05,507 --> 00:56:09,510
see that tenant fifth will be coming back to you

1206
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:10,410
later this evening.

1207
00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:12,141
So this agenda item right now is solely

1208
00:56:12,141 --> 00:56:19,341
focused on the incentive program I think it is not the Affordable

1209
00:56:25,791 --> 00:56:27,681
rental housing incentive program,

1210
00:56:27,681 --> 00:56:30,441
otherwise known as our hip, because that's easier

1211
00:56:30,441 --> 00:56:35,558
to say was approved by the board in February of Two, 2024.

1212
00:56:35,558 --> 00:56:39,782
And it really implements Appendix 8.2 of the County

1213
00:56:39,782 --> 00:56:42,782
Code of Ordinances and Appendix 8.2

1214
00:56:43,701 --> 00:56:46,710
is the ordinance that allows the county

1215
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:48,474
to provide grants or loans to developers

1216
00:56:48,474 --> 00:56:52,674
for the construction of affordable housing projects

1217
00:56:53,271 --> 00:56:57,231
that are eligible for a grant through the incentive program.

1218
00:56:57,231 --> 00:56:59,601
The amount of the incentive would

1219
00:56:59,601 --> 00:57:02,691
be equal to 15% of the total taxes paid

1220
00:57:02,691 --> 00:57:08,631
on the property each year for a total of 30 years

1221
00:57:08,631 --> 00:57:10,402
to be eligible for.

1222
00:57:10,402 --> 00:57:12,174
And I hope incentive construction

1223
00:57:12,174 --> 00:57:14,299
of new affordable rental units must

1224
00:57:14,299 --> 00:57:18,321
be included in the project The project must contain at least

1225
00:57:18,321 --> 00:57:21,681
11 residential units to make it really

1226
00:57:21,681 --> 00:57:24,141
financial feasible for developers to take advantage

1227
00:57:24,141 --> 00:57:25,491
of this project.

1228
00:57:25,491 --> 00:57:27,833
Must be located in Albemarle County.

1229
00:57:27,833 --> 00:57:31,530
Specific Lee Within the development areas with options

1230
00:57:31,530 --> 00:57:34,676
to move outside of that, if appropriate.

1231
00:57:34,676 --> 00:57:38,310
The applicant must own or control the project site

1232
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:40,641
and have an approved rezoning of the project site.

1233
00:57:40,641 --> 00:57:43,581
If that is applicable to that project And at least

1234
00:57:43,581 --> 00:57:46,701
20% of the total rental units on the property

1235
00:57:46,701 --> 00:57:49,641
should be affordable at or below 60% of area.

1236
00:57:49,641 --> 00:57:53,241
Median income There is an opportunity

1237
00:57:53,886 --> 00:57:58,611
for projects that fall outside of those program parameters

1238
00:57:58,611 --> 00:58:00,891
to become eligible for incentive,

1239
00:58:00,891 --> 00:58:05,751
and those are early looked at on a case by case basis.

1240
00:58:05,751 --> 00:58:10,581
And this would be one of those cases the RFP application

1241
00:58:10,581 --> 00:58:13,341
process is non-competitive and applications

1242
00:58:13,341 --> 00:58:16,318
are accepted on a rolling basis throughout the year.

1243
00:58:16,318 --> 00:58:19,110
Those applications once received and reviewed

1244
00:58:19,110 --> 00:58:22,461
by the Department of Finance and Budget and Housing Office

1245
00:58:22,461 --> 00:58:24,831
staff for program compliance.

1246
00:58:24,831 --> 00:58:28,110
The project budget provide it with the application

1247
00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:30,285
must demonstrate that the affordable Unitech

1248
00:58:30,285 --> 00:58:33,184
Construction would not be feasible without the incentive

1249
00:58:33,184 --> 00:58:37,194
grant and as always, the incentive is approved

1250
00:58:37,194 --> 00:58:41,998
by the board specifically for the Maintain on Fifth project.

1251
00:58:41,998 --> 00:58:46,434
This would apply to phase Two of A on Fifth project

1252
00:58:46,434 --> 00:58:50,940
and attain on Fifth is what it was formerly known as Capsular

1253
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:53,569
Crossing this specific Phase two project proposes

1254
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:57,169
to construct an additional 165 rental units

1255
00:58:57,201 --> 00:59:01,131
throughout the property for a total of 309 units

1256
00:59:01,131 --> 00:59:05,271
a total of 62 or 20% of those 309 units

1257
00:59:05,271 --> 00:59:07,881
would be provided as affordable housing

1258
00:59:07,881 --> 00:59:11,601
and broken into two to affordability levels.

1259
00:59:11,601 --> 00:59:16,501
10% or 31% of 31 units would be provided at 60% of AMI.

1260
00:59:16,501 --> 00:59:20,843
With the addition of the other half of those 31 units provided

1261
00:59:20,843 --> 00:59:25,899
at 80% AMI all affordability periods would last for 30 years.

1262
00:59:25,899 --> 00:59:29,271
The units therefore opposed include a 22 bedroom

1263
00:59:29,271 --> 00:59:33,891
two bath units and 42 three bedroom, three bathroom units.

1264
00:59:33,891 --> 00:59:35,991
It's important to note that through this larger

1265
00:59:35,991 --> 00:59:40,491
three bedroom sized units are just not a lot of that.

1266
00:59:40,491 --> 00:59:41,846
Their size units in the county.

1267
00:59:41,846 --> 00:59:45,981
It's difficult for families of any income level to find them,

1268
00:59:45,981 --> 00:59:49,581
particularly those with below median income.

1269
00:59:54,771 --> 00:59:57,951
The unhip incentive if approved, would

1270
00:59:57,951 --> 01:00:02,751
be approximately $5 million over the 30 year compliance period.

1271
01:00:02,751 --> 01:00:06,711
And if the board approves the incentive then

1272
01:00:06,711 --> 01:00:09,111
a performance agreement would be drafted

1273
01:00:09,111 --> 01:00:12,231
that would include the terms of the grant, the annual grants

1274
01:00:12,231 --> 01:00:15,321
amount that is estimated to be paid out timeline

1275
01:00:15,321 --> 01:00:19,131
for those payments, the total affordability period, as well as

1276
01:00:19,131 --> 01:00:21,531
reporting and compliance requirements

1277
01:00:23,301 --> 01:00:26,301
So we want to open it up to the board for any questions.

1278
01:00:26,301 --> 01:00:28,371
Again, Mr. Sumner is here to answer

1279
01:00:28,371 --> 01:00:30,711
any of the financial side.

1280
01:00:30,711 --> 01:00:33,591
It's like here mr. Sutton is here to answer those.

1281
01:00:33,591 --> 01:00:34,311
Supervisor.

1282
01:00:34,311 --> 01:00:35,391
Mr. Curtly Yes.

1283
01:00:35,391 --> 01:00:39,561
Could you please go back to page five?

1284
01:00:39,561 --> 01:00:40,611
I think that's it.

1285
01:00:40,611 --> 01:00:42,527
No wrong.

1286
01:00:42,527 --> 01:00:46,615
OK out of the 309 units, I know they're

1287
01:00:46,615 --> 01:00:49,559
constructing an additional 165 new rental units.

1288
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:50,246
Correct?

1289
01:00:50,246 --> 01:00:51,276
That's correct.

1290
01:00:51,276 --> 01:00:55,399
But the entire 309 units, they're all rentals, Correct.

1291
01:00:55,399 --> 01:00:57,117
Will all be rentals.

1292
01:00:57,117 --> 01:00:59,991
The what we're offering the incentive program?

1293
01:00:59,991 --> 01:01:04,791
Well, they cover the Affordable units of the $165.

1294
01:01:07,734 --> 01:01:11,430
Or will they be dispersed throughout the entire 309?

1295
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:13,691
Or would they be able to land?

1296
01:01:13,691 --> 01:01:14,684
The 309?

1297
01:01:14,684 --> 01:01:16,339
Are there all section?

1298
01:01:16,339 --> 01:01:19,642
I believe at the moment, they would most of them would

1299
01:01:19,642 --> 01:01:21,227
be in the old section.

1300
01:01:21,227 --> 01:01:23,760
So the existing units are there.

1301
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,876
So we're paying in an incentive to refer basically.

1302
01:01:26,876 --> 01:01:27,540
Yes.

1303
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:31,197
So most of them will be in the existing units.

1304
01:01:31,197 --> 01:01:34,188
There will be some in the new units,

1305
01:01:34,188 --> 01:01:37,280
but due to the income that will be lost,

1306
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,920
providing those lower rents even in the existing units, that's

1307
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,485
what this incentive allows.

1308
01:01:41,485 --> 01:01:42,420
OK.

1309
01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:42,878
Thank you.

1310
01:01:42,878 --> 01:01:43,992
No other questions.

1311
01:01:43,992 --> 01:01:45,891
Supervised are Malik.

1312
01:01:45,891 --> 01:01:46,791
Thank you.

1313
01:01:46,791 --> 01:01:50,901
So when I was reading the packet the first time there

1314
01:01:50,901 --> 01:01:53,571
seemed to be a discrepancy about the new units

1315
01:01:53,571 --> 01:01:56,211
versus the affordable units versus the entire property.

1316
01:01:56,211 --> 01:01:58,191
But I understand the rebate is based

1317
01:01:58,191 --> 01:02:01,161
upon the value of the entire property.

1318
01:02:01,161 --> 01:02:02,661
Yes, ma'am.

1319
01:02:02,661 --> 01:02:08,723
And yet we're immediately giving up half of the below the 60% AMI

1320
01:02:08,723 --> 01:02:14,121
and below right off the bat So I'm concerned about that.

1321
01:02:14,121 --> 01:02:16,311
So that's I don't really have a question.

1322
01:02:16,311 --> 01:02:19,431
I just think that we're giving up

1323
01:02:19,431 --> 01:02:23,181
on the first day of making an achievement of what

1324
01:02:23,181 --> 01:02:25,581
we should be getting.

1325
01:02:25,701 --> 01:02:27,441
Thank you.

1326
01:02:27,441 --> 01:02:32,841
Supervisor Duncan is this only the second application we've

1327
01:02:33,381 --> 01:02:37,581
had that's using the R correct Do

1328
01:02:40,311 --> 01:02:42,801
you know if we have more applications using

1329
01:02:42,801 --> 01:02:44,571
this in the pipeline?

1330
01:02:44,571 --> 01:02:47,991
I believe I just received an email about one,

1331
01:02:47,991 --> 01:02:49,371
but I haven't had a chance.

1332
01:02:49,371 --> 01:02:49,941
Literally.

1333
01:02:49,941 --> 01:02:51,127
Right before we got up here.

1334
01:02:51,127 --> 01:02:53,191
So just potentially one.

1335
01:02:53,191 --> 01:02:53,691
Yes.

1336
01:02:53,691 --> 01:03:00,291
So far i have some sort of curious if kind of big picture,

1337
01:03:00,291 --> 01:03:05,811
if this is working or if we should make adjustments

1338
01:03:05,811 --> 01:03:09,324
at some point to how this is working or not

1339
01:03:09,324 --> 01:03:10,551
getting applications.

1340
01:03:10,551 --> 01:03:11,541
But that's all I have.

1341
01:03:11,541 --> 01:03:17,541
I'm Supervisor Pruitt I'd begin by echoing kind of actually

1342
01:03:19,161 --> 01:03:21,981
both the two previous comments because they,

1343
01:03:21,981 --> 01:03:24,531
you know they have different normative flavors,

1344
01:03:24,531 --> 01:03:27,321
but they got at the same issue, which is up.

1345
01:03:27,321 --> 01:03:29,871
I would continue to share whether or not

1346
01:03:29,871 --> 01:03:33,891
this is a program that has been appropriately calibrated

1347
01:03:33,891 --> 01:03:35,841
to the current economic moment.

1348
01:03:35,841 --> 01:03:39,951
If the first for profit that we've had

1349
01:03:39,951 --> 01:03:46,911
come before us trying very hard and with a property that they

1350
01:03:46,911 --> 01:03:51,621
got at a bargain, still is not able to fully come

1351
01:03:51,621 --> 01:03:54,621
into accordance with our expectation.

1352
01:03:55,371 --> 01:03:58,491
That indicates, I think, a flaw in our design

1353
01:03:58,491 --> 01:04:03,210
of the program that it is this challenging and they've made.

1354
01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:05,331
I would say, very good try at trying

1355
01:04:05,331 --> 01:04:10,131
to comply with our standards Also, we're, I

1356
01:04:12,411 --> 01:04:14,910
think in real time kind of figuring out

1357
01:04:14,910 --> 01:04:17,361
the speed bumps of how we're going to implement this.

1358
01:04:17,361 --> 01:04:20,841
This is almost more of an internal thing here.

1359
01:04:20,841 --> 01:04:24,321
But I think there's a sequencing problem here with the agenda

1360
01:04:24,321 --> 01:04:28,137
as I'm looking at it and experiencing this as a board

1361
01:04:28,137 --> 01:04:33,165
member, because there is an exchange of things of value

1362
01:04:33,165 --> 01:04:36,321
that is happening with our hip and also

1363
01:04:36,321 --> 01:04:39,981
with the final approval itself related to proffers

1364
01:04:39,981 --> 01:04:42,981
of those things of value.

1365
01:04:43,431 --> 01:04:45,141
All speak to one another, right?

1366
01:04:45,141 --> 01:04:48,210
Money is fungible, units are convertible into money, which

1367
01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:52,410
is fungible, but we're making a decision on one part

1368
01:04:52,410 --> 01:04:55,191
before the rest of it even comes to us.

1369
01:04:55,191 --> 01:04:57,991
And frankly, a lot of the I think,

1370
01:04:57,991 --> 01:05:00,511
more substantive discussion we're going to have on finance

1371
01:05:00,511 --> 01:05:04,311
is related to the project And that scope

1372
01:05:04,311 --> 01:05:08,451
of benefits to the community and benefits to the company

1373
01:05:08,451 --> 01:05:10,431
is going to happen in the latter half.

1374
01:05:10,431 --> 01:05:11,931
But we're kind of backing ourselves

1375
01:05:11,931 --> 01:05:15,510
into a potential decision in the first half

1376
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:17,361
with the decision on our hip.

1377
01:05:17,361 --> 01:05:22,161
So I will just observe that i know

1378
01:05:22,221 --> 01:05:23,781
how I feel about this project.

1379
01:05:23,781 --> 01:05:26,211
But if I didn't, this would be very frustrating for me,

1380
01:05:26,211 --> 01:05:28,941
for it to come before me in this broken

1381
01:05:28,941 --> 01:05:32,744
out part and with a kind of dispositive element.

1382
01:05:32,744 --> 01:05:34,911
Earlier in the meeting, before we had an opportunity

1383
01:05:34,911 --> 01:05:37,461
to substantively engage with the rest of it,

1384
01:05:37,461 --> 01:05:40,341
it feels like those need to walk a little closer together

1385
01:05:40,341 --> 01:05:45,801
in the same way we might have like necessary variances come

1386
01:05:45,801 --> 01:05:48,568
immediately after a zoning decision right?

1387
01:05:48,568 --> 01:05:51,292
Steep slope requirements, which we have for this.

1388
01:05:51,292 --> 01:05:52,926
Come immediately after zoning decision.

1389
01:05:52,926 --> 01:05:56,391
Those feel married in a way to the zoning decision

1390
01:05:56,391 --> 01:06:00,681
that this also feels like it needs to be married up

1391
01:06:00,681 --> 01:06:03,801
and it's not currently, which again,

1392
01:06:03,801 --> 01:06:05,391
I'm very familiar with this project.

1393
01:06:05,391 --> 01:06:09,201
So in this instant moment it is not a crisis for me.

1394
01:06:09,201 --> 01:06:11,151
But if this was a more controversial project

1395
01:06:11,151 --> 01:06:12,568
that I didn't know anything about,

1396
01:06:12,568 --> 01:06:16,581
I this would be a very hard thing to come before me first.

1397
01:06:16,581 --> 01:06:23,181
Sorry, belabored that point a little I think there is also

1398
01:06:25,251 --> 01:06:29,181
this is maybe a bit of a I was recently

1399
01:06:29,181 --> 01:06:32,610
trying to remind myself that I was correctly

1400
01:06:32,610 --> 01:06:36,261
remembering the exact criteria of this program.

1401
01:06:36,454 --> 01:06:37,287
This board probably.

1402
01:06:37,287 --> 01:06:38,204
Secondly, saying this.

1403
01:06:38,204 --> 01:06:40,791
I found it hard to find our own policies on it

1404
01:06:40,791 --> 01:06:44,841
and i know when I first sat down with the applicant,

1405
01:06:44,841 --> 01:06:47,751
they had had a hard time finding the exact policies of it,

1406
01:06:47,751 --> 01:06:53,601
and I had to, from memory, having voted on it, lay it out,

1407
01:06:53,601 --> 01:06:56,331
which is not a great position.

1408
01:06:56,331 --> 01:06:59,836
And particularly the thing that two previous supervisors

1409
01:06:59,836 --> 01:07:05,936
mentioned is a thing that I don't think we are advertising.

1410
01:07:05,936 --> 01:07:10,136
Well, which is that the affordability requirement

1411
01:07:13,191 --> 01:07:16,101
applies to newly created units.

1412
01:07:16,101 --> 01:07:19,431
So that is the unit of analysis is newly created

1413
01:07:19,431 --> 01:07:26,310
for how 20% of that being newly being affordable while the tax

1414
01:07:26,361 --> 01:07:29,961
credit applies to total project value.

1415
01:07:30,111 --> 01:07:33,741
So there are two separate scopes of analysis.

1416
01:07:33,741 --> 01:07:36,741
The creation of affordability requirement

1417
01:07:36,891 --> 01:07:39,951
is only analyzing new units in a read of,

1418
01:07:39,951 --> 01:07:42,471
whereas the tax benefit is analyzing

1419
01:07:42,471 --> 01:07:47,331
the entirety of the project that is, that is not intuitive

1420
01:07:47,331 --> 01:07:49,191
that that would be how that would work.

1421
01:07:49,191 --> 01:07:51,471
And I'm not sure.

1422
01:07:51,471 --> 01:07:54,848
I'm not sure that's a part But especially

1423
01:07:54,848 --> 01:07:58,982
if you're not someone who very steeped in our local zoning

1424
01:07:58,982 --> 01:07:59,733
culture.

1425
01:07:59,733 --> 01:08:02,271
And this kind of goes into the general thing

1426
01:08:02,271 --> 01:08:05,910
I've expressed worry about is that you shouldn't need

1427
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:08,331
to be steeped in local zoning culture

1428
01:08:08,331 --> 01:08:12,741
to be able to successfully apply like it is.

1429
01:08:12,741 --> 01:08:14,241
It is great for Williams and Mullen,

1430
01:08:14,241 --> 01:08:15,658
and they get the business of being

1431
01:08:15,658 --> 01:08:19,311
the experts who you have to come to, to, to get things through.

1432
01:08:19,311 --> 01:08:23,451
And I hate that I'm trying to maybe harm their bottom line

1433
01:08:23,451 --> 01:08:26,451
on this, but it should be relatively easy to figure out

1434
01:08:26,451 --> 01:08:27,501
what the rules are.

1435
01:08:27,501 --> 01:08:30,210
Are And I worry that it's not an you

1436
01:08:30,210 --> 01:08:32,871
need to partner with these experts or be one of the people

1437
01:08:32,871 --> 01:08:35,871
already in the developer pool.

1438
01:08:36,621 --> 01:08:39,711
That being said I think if the applicant had the opportunity

1439
01:08:39,711 --> 01:08:42,592
to present at this another just procedural thing,

1440
01:08:42,592 --> 01:08:44,842
I don't think we have an opportunity for the applicant

1441
01:08:44,842 --> 01:08:47,175
to present on this for no.

1442
01:08:47,175 --> 01:08:49,880
And again, we're deciding it first.

1443
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,599
If the applicant had the opportunity to present on this,

1444
01:08:53,599 --> 01:09:00,199
I'm sure they would make a good explanation of the challenges

1445
01:09:01,110 --> 01:09:05,631
in fully complying with our with our requirement on this.

1446
01:09:05,631 --> 01:09:07,221
And they have come quite close.

1447
01:09:07,221 --> 01:09:11,241
They got to the spirit of doing 20%.

1448
01:09:11,241 --> 01:09:15,441
And so I am comfortable knowing that they

1449
01:09:15,441 --> 01:09:18,501
did their homework trying to deliver what we've

1450
01:09:18,501 --> 01:09:20,211
identified as being of value.

1451
01:09:20,211 --> 01:09:23,811
I'm comfortable looking aside that requirement

1452
01:09:24,651 --> 01:09:27,381
that we've implemented in approving this.

1453
01:09:27,381 --> 01:09:27,891
Thank you.

1454
01:09:27,891 --> 01:09:32,811
And I appreciate having the opportunity to kind of lay out

1455
01:09:32,811 --> 01:09:33,561
these concerns.

1456
01:09:33,561 --> 01:09:34,581
I have.

1457
01:09:34,581 --> 01:09:36,308
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1458
01:09:36,308 --> 01:09:38,391
If you could just clarify something for the board.

1459
01:09:38,391 --> 01:09:41,940
I just want to clarify that the affordability application that's

1460
01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:42,624
before the board right now.

1461
01:09:42,624 --> 01:09:44,749
And then the rezoning applications for this evening

1462
01:09:44,749 --> 01:09:47,990
are independent, that a decision today does not

1463
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:49,710
obligate the board in terms of its zoning decisions.

1464
01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:51,848
This evening, nor does the zoning decision

1465
01:09:51,848 --> 01:09:53,931
to see this evening obligate the board on anything

1466
01:09:53,931 --> 01:09:56,264
regarding the affordability incentives before the board.

1467
01:09:56,264 --> 01:09:58,641
At the moment that is well taken.

1468
01:09:58,641 --> 01:10:00,687
I realize I said that they.

1469
01:10:00,687 --> 01:10:02,151
But they are in play each other.

1470
01:10:02,151 --> 01:10:07,410
I i in practice feel like they heavily speak to one another,

1471
01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:09,801
but of course formally they don't.

1472
01:10:09,801 --> 01:10:11,701
Supervisor Missal.

1473
01:10:11,701 --> 01:10:12,201
Yeah.

1474
01:10:12,201 --> 01:10:14,201
Thanks very much.

1475
01:10:14,481 --> 01:10:17,660
So I've had the opportunity probably like Supervisor

1476
01:10:17,660 --> 01:10:18,441
or other supervisors to have seen

1477
01:10:18,441 --> 01:10:20,511
this and other areas and other venues

1478
01:10:20,511 --> 01:10:24,711
and appreciate the vision and the design

1479
01:10:24,891 --> 01:10:29,336
and the goals for the development You know,

1480
01:10:29,336 --> 01:10:32,818
the more we do these things as our second one, the better we're

1481
01:10:32,818 --> 01:10:34,310
going to get at it.

1482
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:37,910
And maybe the next time the sequencing changes a little bit.

1483
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:43,117
Or there's a different approach to how we learn about it, I also

1484
01:10:43,117 --> 01:10:45,420
have been thinking about that sequencing

1485
01:10:45,420 --> 01:10:48,653
a fair amount because I want to ask the applicant questions

1486
01:10:48,653 --> 01:10:51,886
and, and it feels like that might inform that.

1487
01:10:51,886 --> 01:10:55,348
But on the flip side is if we don't agree to this, if we

1488
01:10:55,348 --> 01:10:57,681
don't move forward with this, they don't have a project.

1489
01:10:57,681 --> 01:11:00,210
And so they're going to have to go back to the drawing board

1490
01:11:00,210 --> 01:11:01,688
and they're going to have to figure this

1491
01:11:01,688 --> 01:11:05,601
out and do a whole different pro forma and capital stack.

1492
01:11:05,601 --> 01:11:09,531
So it's a chicken and egg thing kind of.

1493
01:11:09,531 --> 01:11:13,557
And I think that, you know, if we do support this,

1494
01:11:13,557 --> 01:11:15,823
they'll be able to move forward as planned

1495
01:11:15,823 --> 01:11:18,939
and as they will likely present to us later today.

1496
01:11:18,939 --> 01:11:20,355
I also know that.

1497
01:11:20,355 --> 01:11:23,388
And having worked on this and learned so much

1498
01:11:23,388 --> 01:11:26,621
about this over the last few years.

1499
01:11:26,621 --> 01:11:29,601
We need every possible source of funds

1500
01:11:29,601 --> 01:11:32,610
to make affordable housing reality

1501
01:11:32,610 --> 01:11:33,681
a reality in this community.

1502
01:11:33,681 --> 01:11:35,301
We all know that.

1503
01:11:35,301 --> 01:11:37,791
I think maybe Chair Galway mentioned that the other day.

1504
01:11:37,791 --> 01:11:39,291
In one of our other meetings we were

1505
01:11:39,291 --> 01:11:42,393
talking about how we need to do everything we

1506
01:11:42,393 --> 01:11:44,538
can to leverage every avenue.

1507
01:11:44,538 --> 01:11:47,756
And this is one of those avenues that we

1508
01:11:47,756 --> 01:11:53,512
can leverage It also just ticks the box in other ways.

1509
01:11:53,512 --> 01:11:56,511
So I know this is independent of the zoning, but it's hard for me

1510
01:11:56,511 --> 01:12:00,201
to separate a project from its funding source

1511
01:12:00,201 --> 01:12:03,591
because without one, it's the other was not a reality.

1512
01:12:03,591 --> 01:12:05,489
But I just the way this has been designed

1513
01:12:05,489 --> 01:12:08,310
and the infill that we're going to be seeing and seeing later

1514
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:10,671
in the use of this and the reuse of this and the approval

1515
01:12:10,671 --> 01:12:16,641
in in terms of quality of life I think that this development will

1516
01:12:16,641 --> 01:12:20,181
bring and the reasonable approach to parking, etc., etc.,

1517
01:12:20,181 --> 01:12:23,211
are things that we can learn from that will help affordable

1518
01:12:23,211 --> 01:12:25,380
housing come to the community as well.

1519
01:12:25,380 --> 01:12:26,351
So it's multilayered to me.

1520
01:12:26,351 --> 01:12:28,978
So that's all I guess I was supposed to ask questions,

1521
01:12:28,978 --> 01:12:32,151
none of that was a question Sorry,

1522
01:12:32,151 --> 01:12:33,321
anybody asked the question.

1523
01:12:33,321 --> 01:12:35,391
So I don't you know what?

1524
01:12:35,391 --> 01:12:36,946
I'm so well ask them.

1525
01:12:36,946 --> 01:12:37,779
You supposed to ask.

1526
01:12:37,779 --> 01:12:38,181
No, no.

1527
01:12:38,181 --> 01:12:39,861
I've written down since it was my turn.

1528
01:12:39,861 --> 01:12:44,271
I'll come back later You go ahead of me.

1529
01:12:44,271 --> 01:12:45,259
Well, I'll.

1530
01:12:45,259 --> 01:12:47,301
A few comments based on some of the comments that

1531
01:12:47,301 --> 01:12:51,285
have been made as my involvement with the creation

1532
01:12:51,285 --> 01:12:54,981
of this incentive program was pretty on at the point.

1533
01:12:54,981 --> 01:12:59,685
And so I feel like I have a good memory of why things are

1534
01:12:59,685 --> 01:13:02,138
in place that they are given.

1535
01:13:02,138 --> 01:13:05,314
When we passed it first, the sequencing.

1536
01:13:05,314 --> 01:13:06,190
OK.

1537
01:13:06,190 --> 01:13:08,691
Today, you know when it was discussed,

1538
01:13:08,691 --> 01:13:10,191
when we put this into place, I don't

1539
01:13:10,191 --> 01:13:11,571
know that we ever foresaw that we

1540
01:13:11,571 --> 01:13:13,461
would be making a decision on the incentive

1541
01:13:13,461 --> 01:13:16,851
and then having a zoning question on the same day.

1542
01:13:16,851 --> 01:13:19,435
But we did very clearly because of what

1543
01:13:19,435 --> 01:13:21,612
we heard from developed the developer and community

1544
01:13:21,612 --> 01:13:24,600
and applicants was that if we don't know,

1545
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,510
we're going to get the incentive to keep your point about

1546
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:29,211
or changes the pro forma, they need

1547
01:13:29,211 --> 01:13:31,911
to know that before they go through the whole rezoning

1548
01:13:31,911 --> 01:13:32,451
process.

1549
01:13:32,451 --> 01:13:34,341
And that was an I agree.

1550
01:13:34,341 --> 01:13:35,151
That's reasonable.

1551
01:13:35,151 --> 01:13:39,317
If I'm not getting it, then that may change the whole way

1552
01:13:39,317 --> 01:13:41,717
or even putting the application in.

1553
01:13:41,717 --> 01:13:45,145
I'd rather know that before I put the application.

1554
01:13:45,145 --> 01:13:47,691
And then proceeding through everything.

1555
01:13:47,691 --> 01:13:50,211
So the board was the one that when

1556
01:13:50,211 --> 01:13:55,370
we passed the incentive back in February, what, four years ago

1557
01:13:55,370 --> 01:13:58,900
that said, we have to come up with the process of how

1558
01:13:58,900 --> 01:13:59,973
to get the incentive question in front of us

1559
01:13:59,973 --> 01:14:02,650
and say, oh, we can decide that.

1560
01:14:02,650 --> 01:14:04,371
And this is only the second the second one.

1561
01:14:04,371 --> 01:14:07,430
So there can be commentary on the process.

1562
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:09,501
Yes, because that's how we're going to learn and get better

1563
01:14:09,501 --> 01:14:12,903
if we continue to do the program But I don't want

1564
01:14:12,903 --> 01:14:14,642
I don't want to make it.

1565
01:14:14,642 --> 01:14:17,375
Because at one point, we felt like the incentive would

1566
01:14:17,375 --> 01:14:18,866
be made after the rezoning.

1567
01:14:18,866 --> 01:14:20,799
Well, that that's kind of backwards.

1568
01:14:20,799 --> 01:14:22,632
And how this stuff works because you're also

1569
01:14:22,632 --> 01:14:24,590
going and finding all the other things that you

1570
01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:27,544
need to find out to see if you can make a project work.

1571
01:14:27,544 --> 01:14:29,680
And the board agreed to that with our vote,

1572
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,521
we also agreed to some flexibility

1573
01:14:31,521 --> 01:14:33,381
and part of the conversation of giving it

1574
01:14:33,381 --> 01:14:36,951
to the whole project, the whole property versus just

1575
01:14:36,951 --> 01:14:39,291
the affordable property is math.

1576
01:14:39,291 --> 01:14:45,801
If we changed this to just to give the tax rebate on just

1577
01:14:45,801 --> 01:14:48,593
the units that were affordable that $5 million

1578
01:14:48,593 --> 01:14:51,232
would be significantly less over the 30 years.

1579
01:14:51,232 --> 01:14:53,577
And so therefore, the incentive to help

1580
01:14:53,577 --> 01:14:55,922
make the project would be significantly less.

1581
01:14:55,922 --> 01:14:59,400
One of the critiques that we've received since we put it

1582
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:00,328
in place was that.

1583
01:15:00,328 --> 01:15:03,769
And why we're seeing this mix some at 60 and some at 80

1584
01:15:03,769 --> 01:15:05,871
is the reality of what we've been hearing

1585
01:15:05,871 --> 01:15:09,381
for the last 3 or 4 years, even with the 15%

1586
01:15:09,381 --> 01:15:11,121
of the whole project for 30 years,

1587
01:15:11,121 --> 01:15:15,174
it's still difficult to get them all to that lower at my point.

1588
01:15:15,174 --> 01:15:16,341
And that has been borne out.

1589
01:15:16,341 --> 01:15:18,471
And all other project projects for profits.

1590
01:15:18,471 --> 01:15:21,441
Nonprofits are all having the same kind of issue with that.

1591
01:15:21,441 --> 01:15:23,793
So I say all of that to say is that we

1592
01:15:23,793 --> 01:15:26,745
had these discussions at the time when we voted on it.

1593
01:15:26,745 --> 01:15:29,451
We said, this will be the process moving forward.

1594
01:15:29,451 --> 01:15:31,419
And we made the decision on that.

1595
01:15:31,419 --> 01:15:33,741
That doesn't mean you have to be thrilled with it

1596
01:15:33,741 --> 01:15:35,511
or happy with it or can't critique it.

1597
01:15:35,511 --> 01:15:37,371
But it is what we put in place for people

1598
01:15:37,371 --> 01:15:38,751
to be able to count on.

1599
01:15:38,751 --> 01:15:40,611
And so now we have one that's here.

1600
01:15:40,611 --> 01:15:43,371
I have no problem voting on the incentive

1601
01:15:43,371 --> 01:15:45,471
and then looking at the applicants and the anger.

1602
01:15:45,471 --> 01:15:48,291
And this means nothing for your decisions for tonight.

1603
01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:50,301
They're completely disconnect it.

1604
01:15:50,301 --> 01:15:53,248
But this one has to be known first because if this money goes

1605
01:15:53,248 --> 01:15:55,610
away, if this incentive goes away,

1606
01:15:55,610 --> 01:15:58,800
then they may not even want to proceed with the piece tonight.

1607
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,480
Now, I would hope that in future times

1608
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:02,741
it might be a different than the same day.

1609
01:16:02,741 --> 01:16:04,701
I mean, that's kind of interesting

1610
01:16:04,701 --> 01:16:06,661
that they've come to that point.

1611
01:16:06,661 --> 01:16:10,131
But I still think the sequencing is fine

1612
01:16:10,131 --> 01:16:11,882
and we baked in flexibility.

1613
01:16:11,882 --> 01:16:15,677
So if you know and again, I'm not counterpoint and stuff.

1614
01:16:15,677 --> 01:16:19,425
But if we wanted the extra third 10% to be at 60,

1615
01:16:19,425 --> 01:16:23,402
well, then we'd have to kick up the 15% to something else,

1616
01:16:23,402 --> 01:16:23,970
right?

1617
01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:29,850
I mean, that's just that's how this is working And at the time,

1618
01:16:29,850 --> 01:16:31,390
I remember baking in flexibility because we

1619
01:16:31,390 --> 01:16:33,551
could say if we buy into a project,

1620
01:16:33,551 --> 01:16:35,121
we believe in that project.

1621
01:16:35,121 --> 01:16:36,621
And everyone knowing that everything

1622
01:16:36,621 --> 01:16:38,666
is going to be the same, it's not

1623
01:16:38,666 --> 01:16:40,760
going to be a cookie cutter every single time.

1624
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,302
The board should have its prerogative

1625
01:16:42,302 --> 01:16:44,802
to be able to say, All right, well,

1626
01:16:44,802 --> 01:16:47,601
there it is now you can trust it or not, or believe it or not,

1627
01:16:47,601 --> 01:16:49,101
that's up to each of you to do that.

1628
01:16:49,101 --> 01:16:54,685
But the fact is, is if we wanted all 20% to be at 60%, am I ?

1629
01:16:54,685 --> 01:16:56,510
We could move the incentive.

1630
01:16:56,510 --> 01:16:59,551
We would have to go further than the 15%.

1631
01:16:59,551 --> 01:17:01,376
This is bringing it forward.

1632
01:17:01,376 --> 01:17:06,439
The 60%, I don't know At at the higher bedrooms,

1633
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,752
if they would have issues filling

1634
01:17:08,752 --> 01:17:12,602
filling the units at 60% for the for the three bedrooms.

1635
01:17:12,602 --> 01:17:14,667
I mean, this gets into with the homeownership

1636
01:17:14,667 --> 01:17:16,502
where you get so far in the subsidy

1637
01:17:16,502 --> 01:17:18,423
but then there are other barriers that pop up

1638
01:17:18,423 --> 01:17:20,631
from allowing people to go through even though you've

1639
01:17:20,631 --> 01:17:21,571
given strong subsidy.

1640
01:17:21,571 --> 01:17:22,981
But that's a different tangent.

1641
01:17:22,981 --> 01:17:25,566
Jacob is one of the ways to think about this.

1642
01:17:25,566 --> 01:17:27,681
I looked at 5 million over 30 years.

1643
01:17:27,681 --> 01:17:29,751
And I just did some basic math.

1644
01:17:29,751 --> 01:17:33,471
It came out to about $225 a month per unit.

1645
01:17:33,471 --> 01:17:36,411
If I just focus on the Affordable units,

1646
01:17:36,411 --> 01:17:38,331
is that kind of a way to go into that?

1647
01:17:38,331 --> 01:17:41,541
So I took i took 5 million divided by 30.

1648
01:17:41,541 --> 01:17:44,691
I divided that by 12, and then I divided that by 62,

1649
01:17:44,691 --> 01:17:46,431
and I got a monthly amount.

1650
01:17:46,431 --> 01:17:48,334
And that was about what the subsidy is.

1651
01:17:48,334 --> 01:17:51,511
And I don't know if it translates to the rent that way.

1652
01:17:51,511 --> 01:17:54,932
I don't know if I state that in my math is correct to then

1653
01:17:54,932 --> 01:17:58,371
go, Yes, each of those 62 units, the county is

1654
01:17:58,371 --> 01:18:01,710
subsidies subsidizing just over about $220 per unit.

1655
01:18:01,710 --> 01:18:04,671
Is that a is that a way to think about it.

1656
01:18:04,671 --> 01:18:08,204
Or is that just not that's too simplistic That

1657
01:18:08,204 --> 01:18:09,954
is a way to think about it.

1658
01:18:09,954 --> 01:18:11,470
Your math is right.

1659
01:18:11,470 --> 01:18:12,359
You are accurate on that.

1660
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:15,907
I would say that translation into how it impacts those rents,

1661
01:18:15,907 --> 01:18:18,585
I would look to Stacy to comment on that.

1662
01:18:18,585 --> 01:18:19,924
But you are correct.

1663
01:18:19,924 --> 01:18:22,601
When we looked at the five, what the impact

1664
01:18:22,601 --> 01:18:26,829
of that property and its assessed value over the face.

1665
01:18:26,829 --> 01:18:30,392
AI and what the rebate would look like from the change

1666
01:18:30,392 --> 01:18:32,120
in that assessed value.

1667
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,162
That equates about that $5 million over those 30 years.

1668
01:18:35,162 --> 01:18:37,876
So I think moving as we get these projects in place,

1669
01:18:37,876 --> 01:18:39,233
we need to track it.

1670
01:18:39,233 --> 01:18:41,420
And that way because that I mean,

1671
01:18:41,420 --> 01:18:43,983
it doesn't sound like a lot $225 a month.

1672
01:18:43,983 --> 01:18:47,216
You know, when we did this to 29.

1673
01:18:47,216 --> 01:18:49,802
And I backed into the water fees,

1674
01:18:49,802 --> 01:18:53,298
that was about another and 35 $145 a month on it.

1675
01:18:53,298 --> 01:18:54,760
So there.

1676
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,152
It's interesting how things are baked in,

1677
01:18:56,152 --> 01:18:57,969
but that's basically what this means.

1678
01:18:57,969 --> 01:19:01,830
So if we want to do an extra 10% at 60,

1679
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:03,654
there's probably some number It's probably

1680
01:19:03,654 --> 01:19:06,635
maybe somewhere between 25% and a third more than what we're

1681
01:19:06,635 --> 01:19:08,532
offering that would be able to be

1682
01:19:08,532 --> 01:19:12,999
able to provide that same level of per unit subsidy at the 80%.

1683
01:19:12,999 --> 01:19:15,839
But it would just go higher.

1684
01:19:15,839 --> 01:19:19,850
I'm you know, I'm supportive of the

1685
01:19:19,850 --> 01:19:22,594
and so I'd be supportive of even having a conversation.

1686
01:19:22,594 --> 01:19:24,766
If we wanted to go further.

1687
01:19:24,766 --> 01:19:27,559
And while it's lost revenue is the cost.

1688
01:19:27,559 --> 01:19:29,662
But it's but this isn't cash coming out

1689
01:19:29,662 --> 01:19:32,858
of our pocket from a standpoint of we put it into a fund.

1690
01:19:32,858 --> 01:19:35,598
And now we're taking that fund out and providing a grant.

1691
01:19:35,598 --> 01:19:38,211
So this is a way that gives us a different option

1692
01:19:38,211 --> 01:19:40,461
besides the cash burden of being able to help

1693
01:19:40,461 --> 01:19:42,984
some affordable units, I'll go back around just to see

1694
01:19:42,984 --> 01:19:45,651
if there's any other commentary or questions that have popped up

1695
01:19:45,651 --> 01:19:49,488
because as we build on top for another supervisor, a pistol

1696
01:19:49,488 --> 01:19:50,511
curtly, no questions.

1697
01:19:50,511 --> 01:19:51,210
Thank you.

1698
01:19:51,210 --> 01:19:53,210
Supervisor Malik.

1699
01:19:53,361 --> 01:19:56,361
Thank you so there's this.

1700
01:20:00,252 --> 01:20:02,652
All right about this.

1701
01:20:03,634 --> 01:20:06,340
The spirit of the 20%.

1702
01:20:06,175 --> 01:20:09,156
I know, Mike made that comment.

1703
01:20:09,156 --> 01:20:13,256
And I don't know how to interpret whether this has it

1704
01:20:13,256 --> 01:20:14,375
or not.

1705
01:20:14,375 --> 01:20:16,256
Does not seem is it.

1706
01:20:16,256 --> 01:20:19,268
Are we really expected to believe that the applicant has

1707
01:20:19,268 --> 01:20:22,279
no 20% alternative in their briefcase when they have already

1708
01:20:22,279 --> 01:20:27,679
gone through all of the application for the tonight

1709
01:20:28,410 --> 01:20:29,301
for Mr. Sumner?

1710
01:20:29,301 --> 01:20:31,920
And I met with them several times

1711
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,967
and went through several different scenarios.

1712
01:20:32,967 --> 01:20:36,620
And this was the one that all parties came to.

1713
01:20:36,620 --> 01:20:37,284
Yes.

1714
01:20:37,284 --> 01:20:41,751
That that Jacob and I felt was fair for the county as well as

1715
01:20:41,751 --> 01:20:44,151
fair for the applicant.

1716
01:20:47,211 --> 01:20:52,311
And the $200 per month subsidy that was just mentioned.

1717
01:20:52,311 --> 01:20:55,731
Is that linked to a parallel rent reduction

1718
01:20:55,731 --> 01:20:58,276
or is that rent reduction built in because it's

1719
01:20:58,276 --> 01:21:00,480
in a federal funding program?

1720
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:03,296
I mean, how do we see a track bill.

1721
01:21:03,296 --> 01:21:06,840
So we add that that there's track IT mechanisms will be laid

1722
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,610
out within the performance.

1723
01:21:08,610 --> 01:21:10,641
So there will be a performance agreement

1724
01:21:10,641 --> 01:21:13,221
to track these payments over that 30 year period.

1725
01:21:13,221 --> 01:21:15,771
There will be reporting requirements

1726
01:21:15,771 --> 01:21:18,700
in bedded in that performance agreement.

1727
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:21,885
So we can track that and it'll be

1728
01:21:21,885 --> 01:21:25,730
based on the 60% because that doesn't necessarily mean,

1729
01:21:25,730 --> 01:21:28,249
it took $225 to meet the percentage.

1730
01:21:28,249 --> 01:21:32,341
So they're going to be obligated to meet the percentage of am I

1731
01:21:32,341 --> 01:21:35,875
not that they're giving us a set amount per unit.

1732
01:21:35,875 --> 01:21:39,784
It's just one way of looking at what you're cost ones.

1733
01:21:39,784 --> 01:21:42,640
That's why I brought that up.

1734
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:42,715
Correct.

1735
01:21:42,715 --> 01:21:44,995
And basically the per unit is also

1736
01:21:44,995 --> 01:21:46,957
attributed to the 10% and 80.

1737
01:21:46,957 --> 01:21:50,501
Am I, which is not going to have the same deficit.

1738
01:21:50,501 --> 01:21:54,318
So there's no, that's not clear either as far as how it's really

1739
01:21:54,318 --> 01:21:55,313
impacted here.

1740
01:21:55,313 --> 01:21:56,350
OK.

1741
01:21:56,350 --> 01:21:57,119
Thank you.

1742
01:21:57,119 --> 01:21:59,647
I don't have any other questions.

1743
01:21:59,647 --> 01:22:03,981
I guess Supervisor Duncan, this is the point that I'll mostly

1744
01:22:03,981 --> 01:22:06,441
save and bring up later tonight, but just sort

1745
01:22:06,441 --> 01:22:08,421
of what we're talking about, thinking

1746
01:22:08,421 --> 01:22:11,361
about how things cost if you look

1747
01:22:11,361 --> 01:22:16,457
at the timeline of this project there's been a really long time.

1748
01:22:16,457 --> 01:22:18,747
And I have questions on that later tonight.

1749
01:22:18,747 --> 01:22:21,801
But just kind of how long it's taken to get before us

1750
01:22:21,801 --> 01:22:23,931
is also money that they're spending

1751
01:22:23,931 --> 01:22:28,131
on this in as effectively affordability supervisor

1752
01:22:29,631 --> 01:22:31,631
prewitt, any further.

1753
01:22:32,620 --> 01:22:34,980
I'm mainly just wanted to clarify

1754
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:38,871
that when I mentioned the difference in analysis

1755
01:22:38,871 --> 01:22:42,621
between how which units are being analyzed

1756
01:22:42,621 --> 01:22:45,621
for the affordability set aside versus which units are

1757
01:22:45,621 --> 01:22:49,221
beholden for the the tax abatement,

1758
01:22:50,151 --> 01:22:52,251
that was not a critique of our policy for that.

1759
01:22:52,251 --> 01:22:55,641
I think our policy is probably necessary on that.

1760
01:22:55,641 --> 01:22:59,751
It's more of a concern about the public availability

1761
01:22:59,751 --> 01:23:00,621
of that knowledge.

1762
01:23:00,621 --> 01:23:04,371
So I was not sure if that was, you responding

1763
01:23:04,371 --> 01:23:09,575
to my statement on that I also do take the I'm remembering now

1764
01:23:09,575 --> 01:23:12,363
this converse we had about sequencing.

1765
01:23:12,363 --> 01:23:16,346
I think maybe some of my concerns on this coming

1766
01:23:16,346 --> 01:23:20,391
to a separate and first is maybe specifically informed

1767
01:23:20,391 --> 01:23:25,701
by we mentioned the brief case of alternative performance.

1768
01:23:25,701 --> 01:23:27,201
I was aware of the existence of some

1769
01:23:27,201 --> 01:23:31,401
of those alternative performance, which would also

1770
01:23:31,701 --> 01:23:35,150
speak to what comes before us in the Second half.

1771
01:23:35,150 --> 01:23:37,919
I appreciate now what I'm thinking about

1772
01:23:37,919 --> 01:23:42,481
is that we are down to one alternative and that analysis

1773
01:23:42,481 --> 01:23:44,271
of alternatives at this point in time.

1774
01:23:44,271 --> 01:23:47,481
So that might be my concern, might be a little obviated on

1775
01:23:47,481 --> 01:23:50,744
that, although I do still think I mean,

1776
01:23:50,744 --> 01:23:52,161
we're sitting here kind of wanting

1777
01:23:52,161 --> 01:23:53,991
to ask the applicant questions It does feel

1778
01:23:53,991 --> 01:23:56,121
like this may be my fourth.

1779
01:23:56,121 --> 01:23:57,831
It could walk in a different way.

1780
01:23:57,831 --> 01:24:00,381
Like they could have come to us six months earlier

1781
01:24:00,381 --> 01:24:03,546
with this part and then done the rest of it later.

1782
01:24:03,546 --> 01:24:05,421
But if they're going to come in the same day,

1783
01:24:05,421 --> 01:24:07,521
it does feel like it might make sense for them

1784
01:24:07,521 --> 01:24:09,951
to walk together kind of.

1785
01:24:09,951 --> 01:24:12,310
Again, we're feeling it out in real time.

1786
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:12,864
Yeah.

1787
01:24:12,864 --> 01:24:14,527
Supervisor Russell, any thanks.

1788
01:24:14,527 --> 01:24:16,189
Just a couple quick comments.

1789
01:24:16,189 --> 01:24:18,683
One is it's really simple math, right?

1790
01:24:18,683 --> 01:24:20,721
It's inputs and outputs basically.

1791
01:24:20,721 --> 01:24:23,991
And when you think about this idea of the sequencing

1792
01:24:23,991 --> 01:24:29,910
and the 20% and the etc., a lot of work has been done by staff.

1793
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:31,202
And thank you for saying that in advance of this.

1794
01:24:31,202 --> 01:24:35,175
It might be interesting to have two options that

1795
01:24:35,175 --> 01:24:35,842
come before you.

1796
01:24:35,842 --> 01:24:37,342
So I don't know how that would look,

1797
01:24:37,342 --> 01:24:42,681
but one is if you wanted if you wanted, you know, 20% at 60%,

1798
01:24:42,681 --> 01:24:45,231
this is what it would take.

1799
01:24:45,231 --> 01:24:47,721
And we can do it as a developer, but it's

1800
01:24:47,721 --> 01:24:50,541
going to take the county to do this to make that happen.

1801
01:24:50,541 --> 01:24:53,310
So just understanding where those parameters are

1802
01:24:53,310 --> 01:24:55,191
and probably a lot of that work is kind of done

1803
01:24:55,191 --> 01:24:58,221
behind the scenes with you all just

1804
01:24:58,221 --> 01:24:59,601
be interesting to hear that maybe

1805
01:24:59,601 --> 01:25:02,910
the applicant can share some of that tonight.

1806
01:25:02,910 --> 01:25:08,910
That's great I was going to say something in addition,

1807
01:25:08,873 --> 01:25:10,290
though, I've forgotten.

1808
01:25:10,290 --> 01:25:13,340
Oh, the amount the also just the breakout of the 30.

1809
01:25:13,340 --> 01:25:18,261
If you take 30, the 5 million divided by 30, what is that?

1810
01:25:18,261 --> 01:25:20,901
It was like 120 some or 220 some.

1811
01:25:20,901 --> 01:25:25,101
I'm forgetting what it was 166, 166 a year.

1812
01:25:26,961 --> 01:25:29,781
And the reason I did that last evening was thinking, all right,

1813
01:25:29,781 --> 01:25:33,471
well, if we took money as out of a half and put cash towards it

1814
01:25:33,471 --> 01:25:38,841
it would cost us about $167,000 a year for over a 30 year

1815
01:25:38,841 --> 01:25:39,351
commitment.

1816
01:25:39,351 --> 01:25:40,971
So that's another way to kind of look

1817
01:25:40,971 --> 01:25:44,151
at how where these funds are coming forward to equate it

1818
01:25:44,151 --> 01:25:45,261
to something, to judge it.

1819
01:25:45,261 --> 01:25:47,261
But all right.

1820
01:25:47,991 --> 01:25:49,371
If there are no further comments,

1821
01:25:49,371 --> 01:25:53,571
then looking for a motion to we're

1822
01:25:53,948 --> 01:25:57,600
I do have a motion included.

1823
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:57,880
OK.

1824
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,627
There we go.

1825
01:25:59,627 --> 01:26:02,275
So I I would suggest that the board adopt

1826
01:26:02,275 --> 01:26:07,461
the resolution that's attached to the staff report is be is.

1827
01:26:07,461 --> 01:26:09,461
And boy Yeah.

1828
01:26:09,841 --> 01:26:11,133
Yes, sir.

1829
01:26:11,133 --> 01:26:12,103
That's correct.

1830
01:26:12,103 --> 01:26:13,730
All right.

1831
01:26:13,730 --> 01:26:16,305
I move, that the board approve our hip incentive

1832
01:26:16,305 --> 01:26:19,251
for the attain on Fifth project and authorize the county

1833
01:26:19,251 --> 01:26:23,451
executive as attachment B be as a

1834
01:26:26,610 --> 01:26:28,883
to execute the related performing agreement.

1835
01:26:28,883 --> 01:26:30,231
I sign that correctly.

1836
01:26:30,231 --> 01:26:31,810
Second.

1837
01:26:31,810 --> 01:26:31,581
All right.

1838
01:26:31,581 --> 01:26:33,164
The motion has been made and seconded.

1839
01:26:33,164 --> 01:26:35,311
Is there any further discussion?

1840
01:26:35,311 --> 01:26:35,811
All right.

1841
01:26:35,811 --> 01:26:38,211
If the clerk will please call the roll, Mr. Galloway.

1842
01:26:38,211 --> 01:26:38,931
Yes.

1843
01:26:38,931 --> 01:26:39,431
Okay.

1844
01:26:39,431 --> 01:26:41,910
So currently I miss Malik.

1845
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:45,891
So, Mr. Missal, I. Mr. Pruitt, I can.

1846
01:26:46,641 --> 01:26:47,974
Yes, I didn't get the last word.

1847
01:26:47,974 --> 01:26:49,141
I thought you voted already.

1848
01:26:49,141 --> 01:26:50,511
Sorry about that, Claudette.

1849
01:26:50,511 --> 01:26:51,110
All right.

1850
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:53,110
Motion carries 5 to 1.

1851
01:26:53,361 --> 01:26:57,741
And that moves us to item number ten.

1852
01:26:57,741 --> 01:26:59,191
Thank you, Mr. Richardson.

1853
01:26:59,191 --> 01:26:59,691
Yes.

1854
01:26:59,691 --> 01:27:00,191
Yes, sir.

1855
01:27:00,191 --> 01:27:03,411
Just one before the board moves on to zoning.

1856
01:27:03,411 --> 01:27:06,532
Zoning, modernized I did want to recognize

1857
01:27:06,532 --> 01:27:09,639
as Miss Cathy Dimmick, who supervises Dr.

1858
01:27:09,639 --> 01:27:11,969
Pathy and our housing program.

1859
01:27:11,969 --> 01:27:16,799
And we recently were very sad to learn, very happy for Dr. Pathy,

1860
01:27:16,799 --> 01:27:19,821
but very sad to learn that she will be leaving us very soon

1861
01:27:19,821 --> 01:27:22,251
to take a position with ceded.

1862
01:27:22,251 --> 01:27:25,404
Gastonia, North Carolina And I'll turn it over to Ms..

1863
01:27:25,404 --> 01:27:26,321
Dimmock because board.

1864
01:27:26,321 --> 01:27:26,927
I did.

1865
01:27:26,927 --> 01:27:29,153
I do believe this be the last time we see her

1866
01:27:29,153 --> 01:27:32,661
in lane on a Torreon because of the the scheduling

1867
01:27:32,661 --> 01:27:35,871
of our meetings and her departure.

1868
01:27:35,871 --> 01:27:40,941
So turnover can you just say a few words about stacy

1869
01:27:40,941 --> 01:27:43,131
and then invite the board to wish her well?

1870
01:27:43,131 --> 01:27:44,101
Thank you very much.

1871
01:27:44,101 --> 01:27:44,601
Yes.

1872
01:27:44,601 --> 01:27:48,111
I believe Stacy has 48 hours left with us.

1873
01:27:48,111 --> 01:27:51,651
And so unless she appears at future meetings, which she'll

1874
01:27:51,651 --> 01:27:53,691
be most welcome to, I suspect she'll

1875
01:27:53,691 --> 01:27:57,561
be dedicated to the doings in Gastonia

1876
01:27:57,561 --> 01:28:00,840
from now on I just wanted to acknowledge

1877
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,939
that Stacy has been here just over seven years or so.

1878
01:28:04,939 --> 01:28:08,391
And has maximized that time in our community

1879
01:28:08,391 --> 01:28:11,936
and moved the Office of Housing from a direct service

1880
01:28:11,936 --> 01:28:15,482
sort of HUD based program only to one that includes

1881
01:28:15,482 --> 01:28:20,281
a robust policy arm and staff that are dedicated to making

1882
01:28:20,281 --> 01:28:23,921
sure that we're in compliance and maximizing other people's

1883
01:28:23,921 --> 01:28:27,831
money from the state and from the federal government which

1884
01:28:27,831 --> 01:28:31,881
I know you will appreciate and has

1885
01:28:31,881 --> 01:28:37,371
created a document on which we stand in terms of housing.

1886
01:28:37,371 --> 01:28:40,161
Albemarle, how we move forward, what policy

1887
01:28:40,161 --> 01:28:43,161
levers we continue to pull, or new ones we decide

1888
01:28:43,161 --> 01:28:45,621
we want to pool in order to meet this community's

1889
01:28:45,621 --> 01:28:46,761
affordable housing needs.

1890
01:28:46,761 --> 01:28:49,481
Her impact will be felt for many years.

1891
01:28:49,481 --> 01:28:51,651
So we're deeply appreciative of her efforts

1892
01:28:51,651 --> 01:28:54,291
and her wicked smart ways.

1893
01:28:54,291 --> 01:28:56,269
Thank you, Stacy.

1894
01:28:56,269 --> 01:28:58,311
And I'm going to invite Supervisor Waters to make

1895
01:28:58,311 --> 01:28:58,881
any remarks.

1896
01:28:58,881 --> 01:29:00,881
Supervisor Lopez Stoker.

1897
01:29:02,151 --> 01:29:03,861
Hi, Stacy.

1898
01:29:03,861 --> 01:29:08,698
I'm going to be sad that you're leaving, but I will tell you,

1899
01:29:08,698 --> 01:29:11,837
I remember a few years ago when you presented

1900
01:29:11,837 --> 01:29:15,437
to the board the incentives package

1901
01:29:15,471 --> 01:29:18,951
and our heads were spinning, but you came up with something

1902
01:29:18,951 --> 01:29:24,472
that I think will contain new to move forward, maybe

1903
01:29:24,472 --> 01:29:25,867
change a little bit.

1904
01:29:25,867 --> 01:29:26,984
I don't know.

1905
01:29:26,984 --> 01:29:29,775
But you came up with something, You know,

1906
01:29:29,775 --> 01:29:31,544
you're office developed something for us

1907
01:29:31,544 --> 01:29:34,486
to work on because we didn't have an incentive

1908
01:29:34,486 --> 01:29:36,119
package that I remember.

1909
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:37,753
And I appreciate that.

1910
01:29:37,753 --> 01:29:41,874
And I appreciate all the hard work you've put into it

1911
01:29:41,874 --> 01:29:46,455
and all the of the phone calls that were you've

1912
01:29:46,455 --> 01:29:48,288
answered my questions.

1913
01:29:48,288 --> 01:29:50,931
And I have always been forthright.

1914
01:29:50,931 --> 01:29:52,971
And I really do appreciate that.

1915
01:29:52,971 --> 01:29:53,751
We will miss you.

1916
01:29:53,751 --> 01:29:54,681
Thank you.

1917
01:29:54,681 --> 01:29:58,731
And a shout out to Kaki because of the hearts team.

1918
01:29:58,731 --> 01:29:59,901
Thank you for that.

1919
01:29:59,901 --> 01:30:02,931
And I know you're not retiring any time soon or not.

1920
01:30:02,931 --> 01:30:04,560
Thank you.

1921
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,861
Supervisor Malik, thank you.

1922
01:30:06,861 --> 01:30:09,291
And thank you for shepherding what

1923
01:30:09,291 --> 01:30:12,501
has been a very challenging, ongoing problem, because what

1924
01:30:12,501 --> 01:30:16,641
you walked into was no list, no people,

1925
01:30:16,641 --> 01:30:18,105
no management of vouchers.

1926
01:30:18,105 --> 01:30:19,701
I mean, it was awful.

1927
01:30:19,701 --> 01:30:22,665
And I'll make a place for ten years, never get anywhere.

1928
01:30:22,665 --> 01:30:24,717
So I appreciate all of the order, which

1929
01:30:24,717 --> 01:30:28,311
you have brought to the operation along with all

1930
01:30:28,311 --> 01:30:31,941
the order that our county executive has maintained

1931
01:30:31,941 --> 01:30:33,711
as well.

1932
01:30:33,711 --> 01:30:36,171
And I will always remember the many things

1933
01:30:36,171 --> 01:30:38,601
I learned during our drive to Culpeper

1934
01:30:38,601 --> 01:30:40,461
and back on the Four for Progress

1935
01:30:40,461 --> 01:30:41,961
because I had all to myself, I could

1936
01:30:41,961 --> 01:30:44,812
ask lots of great questions and she always had good answers.

1937
01:30:44,812 --> 01:30:47,398
So thank you, Supervisor Duncan.

1938
01:30:47,398 --> 01:30:51,159
One of the things that always kind of comes up

1939
01:30:51,159 --> 01:30:53,400
in teaching history is considering

1940
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,308
the context in which things were formed and kind of the context

1941
01:30:56,308 --> 01:30:57,141
that we're learning.

1942
01:30:57,141 --> 01:31:02,391
And it's is easy for me to like get frustrated of like, why

1943
01:31:02,391 --> 01:31:03,291
don't we do X, Y, Z?

1944
01:31:03,291 --> 01:31:04,941
Why isn't this this way or whatever?

1945
01:31:04,941 --> 01:31:08,844
But like it's helpful to remember that we are currently

1946
01:31:08,844 --> 01:31:12,981
like a growing, like we're in the middle of becoming a growing

1947
01:31:12,981 --> 01:31:16,251
county and kind of modernizing policies

1948
01:31:16,251 --> 01:31:19,941
and changing kind of a lot of things.

1949
01:31:19,941 --> 01:31:23,271
And so thinking about housing like the fact that like,

1950
01:31:23,271 --> 01:31:26,910
you know, we didn't have a housing plan, you know,

1951
01:31:26,910 --> 01:31:26,901
a few years ago.

1952
01:31:26,901 --> 01:31:30,210
And so we're kind of recognizing the work that

1953
01:31:30,210 --> 01:31:35,631
goes into creating the future county that we want to have

1954
01:31:35,631 --> 01:31:37,611
and who we want to have living here

1955
01:31:37,611 --> 01:31:41,361
and how we make that possible is it's hard work

1956
01:31:41,361 --> 01:31:43,461
It's a lot of work, and it's easy to forget that,

1957
01:31:43,461 --> 01:31:45,752
like it's a process and it takes time.

1958
01:31:45,752 --> 01:31:48,771
And so I'm really grateful for the work

1959
01:31:48,771 --> 01:31:50,601
that you've done in kind of helping

1960
01:31:50,601 --> 01:31:55,245
to shepherd that and move it along and it's, you know,

1961
01:31:55,245 --> 01:31:59,331
we are we have made a lot of progress in that area with you.

1962
01:31:59,331 --> 01:32:01,491
And so thank you for that.

1963
01:32:01,491 --> 01:32:03,441
Supervisor Pruitt Yeah.

1964
01:32:03,441 --> 01:32:06,591
Talk about like ways in which departments have changed really

1965
01:32:06,591 --> 01:32:10,354
dramatically during people's tenure Right Like your tenure

1966
01:32:10,354 --> 01:32:14,673
has been shorter than Chief Reeves, But I mean,

1967
01:32:14,673 --> 01:32:16,636
we barely I out.

1968
01:32:16,636 --> 01:32:19,581
It was administered these federal grants

1969
01:32:19,581 --> 01:32:21,291
or these vouchers.

1970
01:32:21,291 --> 01:32:23,766
And sometimes we'll give you a proffer

1971
01:32:23,766 --> 01:32:25,641
and it's your job to figure out where it goes

1972
01:32:25,641 --> 01:32:27,141
that that used to be the job.

1973
01:32:27,141 --> 01:32:30,210
And now it is a department with multiple direct reports,

1974
01:32:30,210 --> 01:32:32,871
a policy arm administering a fund that you create and develop

1975
01:32:32,871 --> 01:32:36,471
policy around developing a massive plan.

1976
01:32:36,781 --> 01:32:38,781
And that's implementing that's cross-functional.

1977
01:32:38,781 --> 01:32:42,711
It is a radical shift in this organization.

1978
01:32:42,711 --> 01:32:46,641
I remember you were the first person I talked to

1979
01:32:46,641 --> 01:32:50,361
in county government and one of the first people

1980
01:32:50,361 --> 01:32:53,971
I talked to in the county who was not affiliated with UVA.

1981
01:32:53,971 --> 01:32:54,471
Right.

1982
01:32:54,471 --> 01:32:56,947
Like five years ago, not long after I moved out,

1983
01:32:56,947 --> 01:32:58,914
was I want to get involved in housing policy.

1984
01:32:58,914 --> 01:33:00,810
I'm going to call this lady.

1985
01:33:00,810 --> 01:33:01,401
She seems relevant.

1986
01:33:01,401 --> 01:33:04,850
And you just made like half an hour

1987
01:33:04,850 --> 01:33:08,413
or two, maybe even an hour of your day saying, yeah, you know,

1988
01:33:08,413 --> 01:33:10,195
I just broke this department out.

1989
01:33:10,195 --> 01:33:12,486
And it's now here's all the plans I have

1990
01:33:12,486 --> 01:33:17,901
and in that way, Stacey, you were very much like my entryway

1991
01:33:17,901 --> 01:33:20,511
into county government and all the things

1992
01:33:20,511 --> 01:33:23,271
that we were planning and could do.

1993
01:33:23,271 --> 01:33:25,563
And you had you had a whole vision

1994
01:33:25,563 --> 01:33:27,771
of what you were going to accomplish in the next five

1995
01:33:27,771 --> 01:33:28,271
years.

1996
01:33:28,271 --> 01:33:32,896
And it's really exciting to have come alongside in that process

1997
01:33:32,896 --> 01:33:36,798
and also seem all those things have.

1998
01:33:36,798 --> 01:33:38,262
Thank you.

1999
01:33:38,262 --> 01:33:40,640
Supervisor Missal Thank you.

2000
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:41,140
You.

2001
01:33:41,140 --> 01:33:42,899
Yes, I echo all of these.

2002
01:33:42,899 --> 01:33:43,558
Thank Stasia.

2003
01:33:43,558 --> 01:33:46,195
I had a chance to catch up with you before the meeting

2004
01:33:46,195 --> 01:33:47,294
and it's really exciting.

2005
01:33:47,294 --> 01:33:48,612
What you're about to do.

2006
01:33:48,612 --> 01:33:51,510
And I wish you all the best in that initiative

2007
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:51,893
and that endeavor.

2008
01:33:51,893 --> 01:33:54,231
You know, I think, I mean, you spearheaded

2009
01:33:54,231 --> 01:33:55,851
to the launch of what is probably

2010
01:33:55,851 --> 01:33:58,606
one of the most critical issues facing this community.

2011
01:33:58,606 --> 01:34:01,320
And laid the groundwork for moving forward

2012
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:02,871
with that initiative.

2013
01:34:02,871 --> 01:34:05,585
So thank you for your insight.

2014
01:34:05,585 --> 01:34:08,201
Thank you for your community partnership

2015
01:34:08,201 --> 01:34:11,930
It's partnerships with me with the university on projects.

2016
01:34:11,930 --> 01:34:13,696
And I'm just grateful for all of that.

2017
01:34:13,696 --> 01:34:15,142
So best of luck.

2018
01:34:15,142 --> 01:34:16,251
Thank you.

2019
01:34:16,251 --> 01:34:18,251
Best wishes.

2020
01:34:18,261 --> 01:34:22,611
Well, I will say that just over the past year,

2021
01:34:22,611 --> 01:34:24,891
part of the an event happened that has

2022
01:34:24,891 --> 01:34:27,149
made me suffer a lot of separation anxiety

2023
01:34:27,149 --> 01:34:29,360
the past 12 or 13 months.

2024
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,202
And haven't Mr. Richardson today just hasn't been great

2025
01:34:32,202 --> 01:34:33,465
for that front.

2026
01:34:33,465 --> 01:34:37,285
When you bring it to make sure departures to us today.

2027
01:34:37,285 --> 01:34:40,844
So I'm holding you to account for that of Stacy.

2028
01:34:40,844 --> 01:34:45,173
I mean, you came on shortly after I came on the board

2029
01:34:45,173 --> 01:34:47,631
because I know that not just working together in Albemarle,

2030
01:34:47,631 --> 01:34:49,600
but the work that we did together

2031
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:50,931
through Central Regional Housing Partnership

2032
01:34:50,931 --> 01:34:53,601
and the one thing I've always appreciated

2033
01:34:53,601 --> 01:34:58,941
is your candor and willingness to speak on things and topics

2034
01:34:58,941 --> 01:35:02,631
and speak freely about it and echo all the comments

2035
01:35:02,631 --> 01:35:04,791
that housing Albemarle would not be in place

2036
01:35:04,791 --> 01:35:07,710
or what it would be if but for your efforts

2037
01:35:07,710 --> 01:35:09,741
are very appreciative of that.

2038
01:35:09,741 --> 01:35:12,287
I will say and I guess it's always a sign when somebody

2039
01:35:12,287 --> 01:35:13,287
leaves the organization.

2040
01:35:13,287 --> 01:35:15,774
And we always talk about, oh, we're going to stay in touch.

2041
01:35:15,774 --> 01:35:17,763
And we're going to, you know, let's do that.

2042
01:35:17,763 --> 01:35:18,427
I'll do that.

2043
01:35:18,427 --> 01:35:21,245
And we'll see if you, you know, tell me to buzz off or not.

2044
01:35:21,245 --> 01:35:24,305
When i reach out to you and your new position.

2045
01:35:24,305 --> 01:35:26,621
But I think one thing that's critical.

2046
01:35:26,621 --> 01:35:28,647
And that we've learned or I've learned

2047
01:35:28,647 --> 01:35:30,384
and working on these housing issues

2048
01:35:30,384 --> 01:35:33,141
is that it's because we know it's not just

2049
01:35:33,141 --> 01:35:34,971
in your jurisdiction and everybody's

2050
01:35:34,971 --> 01:35:36,921
trying to figure these things out.

2051
01:35:36,921 --> 01:35:39,111
So as you move to your new opportunity

2052
01:35:39,111 --> 01:35:40,883
and wish you the best of luck in that,

2053
01:35:40,883 --> 01:35:43,973
I hope that you will continue to be like, You know what?

2054
01:35:43,973 --> 01:35:45,770
This is an idea.

2055
01:35:45,770 --> 01:35:47,725
This is a process that would work really well in Albemarle.

2056
01:35:47,725 --> 01:35:51,810
That we can still have that idea exchange and that relationship

2057
01:35:51,810 --> 01:35:54,141
because without it's just like we learned

2058
01:35:54,141 --> 01:35:56,866
when we go to Vaiko or the Naco or we go to housing conferences

2059
01:35:56,866 --> 01:35:59,241
or talk to folks who are doing housing around the country

2060
01:35:59,241 --> 01:36:01,116
without that collaborative effort, none of us

2061
01:36:01,116 --> 01:36:03,471
are going to make any progress.

2062
01:36:03,471 --> 01:36:05,211
So again, thank you for all of your time

2063
01:36:05,211 --> 01:36:06,471
and efforts in Albemarle.

2064
01:36:06,471 --> 01:36:08,610
Sincerely appreciate it.

2065
01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:11,241
And we wish you the best of luck in your new role.

2066
01:36:11,241 --> 01:36:11,991
Thank you.

2067
01:36:11,991 --> 01:36:14,741
I don't really have a lot to say because I didn't

2068
01:36:14,741 --> 01:36:16,606
know you were going to do this.

2069
01:36:16,606 --> 01:36:18,231
You're welcome to say anything that you

2070
01:36:18,231 --> 01:36:20,161
would like if you would like.

2071
01:36:20,161 --> 01:36:20,661
I just.

2072
01:36:20,661 --> 01:36:24,510
I, I have really, truly enjoyed and appreciated the time

2073
01:36:24,510 --> 01:36:28,251
I've spent here in the county Take

2074
01:36:28,804 --> 01:36:32,506
in Ron's why it's place the former chief of housing.

2075
01:36:32,506 --> 01:36:36,171
He was in that role for two decades a little bit more

2076
01:36:36,171 --> 01:36:38,282
than that was a bit intimidating right.

2077
01:36:38,282 --> 01:36:40,191
So this guy has been there forever.

2078
01:36:40,191 --> 01:36:42,501
So thank you initially for taking a chance on me

2079
01:36:42,501 --> 01:36:44,501
to say that.

2080
01:36:44,571 --> 01:36:46,924
And I truly appreciate I'm not I'm not leaving

2081
01:36:46,924 --> 01:36:48,556
because I don't like my job.

2082
01:36:48,556 --> 01:36:50,656
And I don't like our more county government.

2083
01:36:50,656 --> 01:36:52,755
It's just new roles that I'm looking for.

2084
01:36:52,755 --> 01:36:53,921
And I have appreciated.

2085
01:36:53,921 --> 01:36:56,957
Everybody in the county that has worked with me because I know I

2086
01:36:56,957 --> 01:36:59,995
can be a pain in the neck to get what I want.

2087
01:36:59,995 --> 01:37:02,980
And I see it is probably going to take

2088
01:37:02,980 --> 01:37:05,632
it's a relief that I'm not going to constantly poke them

2089
01:37:05,632 --> 01:37:07,414
for can we do this?

2090
01:37:07,414 --> 01:37:08,900
Can we do this?

2091
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:10,980
Can we do this housing wise?

2092
01:37:10,980 --> 01:37:13,426
So thank you for everything all of you have given me

2093
01:37:13,426 --> 01:37:14,301
since I've been here.

2094
01:37:14,301 --> 01:37:18,210
And it's nice to hear that I've given back to the county.

2095
01:37:18,210 --> 01:37:18,741
Thank you.

2096
01:37:18,741 --> 01:37:21,141
Thank you All right.

2097
01:37:22,411 --> 01:37:22,911
Bored.

2098
01:37:22,911 --> 01:37:28,710
We will move to item number ten work sessions.

2099
01:37:28,710 --> 01:37:30,621
Zoning, modernization, Phase two articles

2100
01:37:30,621 --> 01:37:35,691
five The overlay zoning districts and six use tables.

2101
01:37:35,691 --> 01:37:36,651
Sounds exciting.

2102
01:37:36,651 --> 01:37:41,421
And it is And we have Leo with us today.

2103
01:37:41,421 --> 01:37:43,421
Good afternoon.

2104
01:37:43,521 --> 01:37:44,275
Good afternoon.

2105
01:37:44,275 --> 01:37:48,475
Was the board and company you state.

2106
01:37:51,211 --> 01:37:56,900
And I'm so glad you're so excited about this out Be

2107
01:37:56,900 --> 01:38:02,690
careful what you ask for so so as we have mentioned,

2108
01:38:18,801 --> 01:38:25,401
we are here to talk about articles Five over the zoning

2109
01:38:26,134 --> 01:38:28,890
districts and Article six use tables

2110
01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:31,348
are drafted into the phase two of the zoning modernization

2111
01:38:31,348 --> 01:38:32,000
project.

2112
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,211
My name is Leah Brumfield, Senior planner to the Zoning

2113
01:38:35,211 --> 01:38:36,474
Division of Human Development.

2114
01:38:36,474 --> 01:38:38,874
And here we go.

2115
01:38:39,231 --> 01:38:43,311
The focus of this presentation is going to be to share updates

2116
01:38:43,311 --> 01:38:47,601
and keep the board informed on our progress on this project

2117
01:38:47,601 --> 01:38:48,801
with a couple of questions.

2118
01:38:48,801 --> 01:38:50,801
At the end.

2119
01:38:51,411 --> 01:38:55,463
Just start when new project background recap a brief look

2120
01:38:55,463 --> 01:38:57,960
at Article five.

2121
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,281
Looking at the regulations for our overlay zoning districts

2122
01:39:01,281 --> 01:39:03,891
and then we'll look at Article six, which

2123
01:39:03,891 --> 01:39:07,311
has a lot of broad language and formatting updates on the use

2124
01:39:07,311 --> 01:39:08,391
tables.

2125
01:39:08,391 --> 01:39:11,991
Then go into work session questions for the board

2126
01:39:11,991 --> 01:39:17,151
and look at next steps and timeline of the project.

2127
01:39:17,151 --> 01:39:19,431
So the focus questions that we're

2128
01:39:19,431 --> 01:39:22,581
going to be looking at the end are

2129
01:39:22,581 --> 01:39:25,251
whether the use and formatting changes recommended

2130
01:39:25,251 --> 01:39:27,861
in the executive summary are acceptable to the board.

2131
01:39:27,861 --> 01:39:31,710
And then also whether the types of changes

2132
01:39:31,710 --> 01:39:33,561
recommended in the executive summary align

2133
01:39:33,561 --> 01:39:36,351
with the expectations of the board for phase two,

2134
01:39:36,351 --> 01:39:38,541
which is intended to be non substantive

2135
01:39:38,541 --> 01:39:41,610
without public engagement for the zoning modernization

2136
01:39:41,610 --> 01:39:43,610
project.

2137
01:39:43,491 --> 01:39:46,196
I will ask the board to generally hold their questions

2138
01:39:46,196 --> 01:39:47,571
until the end of the presentation

2139
01:39:47,571 --> 01:39:51,510
to avoid repetition or answering a question that's going

2140
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:52,881
to be on the very next slide.

2141
01:39:52,881 --> 01:39:55,881
After you ask that question.

2142
01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:59,541
So for anyone just tuning in to the zoning modernization

2143
01:39:59,541 --> 01:40:04,281
project, we have a quick recap in phase one,

2144
01:40:04,281 --> 01:40:07,474
we established the tone, language, style and ordinance

2145
01:40:07,474 --> 01:40:10,492
format of the new drafts, working with Berkeley Group

2146
01:40:10,492 --> 01:40:12,605
to draft articles, new articles.

2147
01:40:12,605 --> 01:40:17,631
One, two, three and ten, which were focusing on administration

2148
01:40:17,631 --> 01:40:21,741
processes and the nonconformity of the ordinance with very

2149
01:40:21,741 --> 01:40:24,381
few changes requiring either staff or public input.

2150
01:40:24,381 --> 01:40:26,781
Really just copy editing.

2151
01:40:27,261 --> 01:40:30,201
This phase laid the framework for the rest of the project

2152
01:40:30,201 --> 01:40:33,210
with the language and the tone and the style

2153
01:40:33,210 --> 01:40:36,737
of the entire articles These four articles

2154
01:40:36,737 --> 01:40:39,292
were brought before the PC and the board,

2155
01:40:39,292 --> 01:40:41,279
and they were given general approval.

2156
01:40:41,279 --> 01:40:44,627
They were not adopted at that time because of the reformatting

2157
01:40:44,627 --> 01:40:46,780
and re organization of the ordinance

2158
01:40:46,780 --> 01:40:50,100
will require a wholesale adoption all at once.

2159
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:54,951
Phase two, which is the topic of this work session,

2160
01:40:54,951 --> 01:40:58,821
includes rewriting the rest of the ordinance with staff topic

2161
01:40:58,821 --> 01:41:02,271
expert input to make sure that when we are rewriting

2162
01:41:02,271 --> 01:41:05,181
the ordinance, we're not changing how we actually

2163
01:41:05,181 --> 01:41:08,181
administer any of our regulations.

2164
01:41:09,831 --> 01:41:10,671
Where possible.

2165
01:41:10,671 --> 01:41:13,581
Some of the regulations are being clarified or slimmed down.

2166
01:41:13,581 --> 01:41:16,281
These are things that are administrative practices already

2167
01:41:16,281 --> 01:41:22,281
or that don't really change how we do anything Again,

2168
01:41:22,311 --> 01:41:23,841
no substantive changes are intended

2169
01:41:23,841 --> 01:41:28,110
to be included in this phase except for the minor things

2170
01:41:28,110 --> 01:41:31,985
that I have highlighted at the end of the presentation

2171
01:41:31,985 --> 01:41:33,557
So today we're doing.

2172
01:41:33,557 --> 01:41:35,757
We're addressing articles five and six,

2173
01:41:35,757 --> 01:41:39,110
but after we have drafted the rest of the articles

2174
01:41:39,110 --> 01:41:42,711
for Phase two, we anticipate the ordinance being adopted

2175
01:41:42,711 --> 01:41:46,781
this winter and a new style, a new format replacing

2176
01:41:46,781 --> 01:41:49,701
the current ordinance wholesale We're currently

2177
01:41:49,701 --> 01:41:52,941
scheduled for a December public hearing for adoption,

2178
01:41:52,941 --> 01:41:55,281
but with Roger and informed base code coming up

2179
01:41:55,281 --> 01:42:01,161
for the board in November and the timeline for making things

2180
01:42:01,161 --> 01:42:04,191
match up to get into the board packets,

2181
01:42:04,191 --> 01:42:07,191
we are recommending moving that public hearing to January

2182
01:42:07,191 --> 01:42:10,791
and then enactment of that ordinance would follow shortly.

2183
01:42:10,791 --> 01:42:13,671
We would need a little bit of leeway

2184
01:42:13,671 --> 01:42:17,661
to get an Unicode specific access and cross-references

2185
01:42:17,661 --> 01:42:19,821
in other sections of the ordinance to line up

2186
01:42:19,821 --> 01:42:21,861
with the new zoning ordinance.

2187
01:42:21,861 --> 01:42:28,461
So that would be a short delay for enactment phase three

2188
01:42:28,881 --> 01:42:31,491
is rewriting the regulations to bring them

2189
01:42:31,491 --> 01:42:33,891
into alignment with the comprehensive plan, which

2190
01:42:33,891 --> 01:42:38,631
is all of the bigger changes, which is the substantive things.

2191
01:42:38,631 --> 01:42:40,371
We anticipate that after a cleaning

2192
01:42:40,371 --> 01:42:42,510
up our audience in Phase two, this work

2193
01:42:42,510 --> 01:42:43,884
will be much more straightforward than if we

2194
01:42:43,884 --> 01:42:45,210
had just tried to do it.

2195
01:42:45,210 --> 01:42:48,831
Now, as we work on Phase two, we are discovering

2196
01:42:48,831 --> 01:42:52,221
things in our ordinance that we haven't really been enacting,

2197
01:42:52,221 --> 01:42:54,780
but which we need to clean up.

2198
01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:58,563
And so this is one of the really great outcomes

2199
01:42:58,563 --> 01:43:03,500
of phase two because of this more substantial work.

2200
01:43:03,500 --> 01:43:06,175
Phase three will involve both staff and public input

2201
01:43:06,175 --> 01:43:10,490
and we are going to be looking for topic level expert

2202
01:43:10,490 --> 01:43:12,421
discussion groups for that public input.

2203
01:43:12,421 --> 01:43:15,788
So as we do have the goals and the alignment

2204
01:43:15,788 --> 01:43:18,481
of the comprehensive plan to work with.

2205
01:43:18,481 --> 01:43:21,510
And they were so recently adopted,

2206
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:24,501
we are going to be translating that document into the zoning

2207
01:43:24,501 --> 01:43:28,821
ordinance as was prioritized for the board earlier this year.

2208
01:43:28,821 --> 01:43:30,532
And we met through all the actions

2209
01:43:30,532 --> 01:43:32,189
and looked at those ones.

2210
01:43:32,189 --> 01:43:34,950
So the staff and public input that we're looking at

2211
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:37,435
will focus on more the details of how we're

2212
01:43:37,435 --> 01:43:39,369
going to act in that direction.

2213
01:43:39,369 --> 01:43:41,481
So we have our direction and then

2214
01:43:41,481 --> 01:43:44,571
we're looking at which ways we are going to be enacting it

2215
01:43:44,571 --> 01:43:46,761
with very specific acts.

2216
01:43:46,761 --> 01:43:49,611
But as noted our priorities are emerging goals.

2217
01:43:49,611 --> 01:43:52,410
They are set from the comp plan and there they

2218
01:43:52,410 --> 01:43:54,471
are prioritized by the board's direction.

2219
01:43:54,471 --> 01:43:56,310
Earlier this year.

2220
01:43:56,310 --> 01:43:58,522
So then at the end of phase three,

2221
01:43:58,522 --> 01:44:01,378
we and hopefully will adopt all those alignment changes

2222
01:44:01,378 --> 01:44:07,690
and then have a zoning ordinance that matches our plan

2223
01:44:07,690 --> 01:44:09,746
So as we are looking at phase 2 today,

2224
01:44:09,746 --> 01:44:12,424
we do want to keep in mind the goals specified

2225
01:44:12,424 --> 01:44:16,371
for this phase of the project We are rewriting the ordinance

2226
01:44:16,371 --> 01:44:20,121
and phase two to just do better formatting plain language,

2227
01:44:20,121 --> 01:44:22,401
make it easier to understand.

2228
01:44:22,401 --> 01:44:24,210
We are consolidating and clarifying

2229
01:44:24,210 --> 01:44:26,811
uses to have a more streamlined ordinance.

2230
01:44:26,811 --> 01:44:29,151
We are removing duplicative language,

2231
01:44:29,151 --> 01:44:31,341
so something that is self enacting

2232
01:44:31,341 --> 01:44:33,220
in the Code of Virginia.

2233
01:44:33,220 --> 01:44:37,251
We're not putting into our new into our ordinance

2234
01:44:37,251 --> 01:44:40,641
And then we are simplifying our review process where possible.

2235
01:44:40,641 --> 01:44:43,708
So again, these changes are not really substantive policy.

2236
01:44:43,708 --> 01:44:49,110
It's just whether it's on the page in a certain way or not,

2237
01:44:49,110 --> 01:44:52,461
where we do have any drafts on phase two

2238
01:44:52,461 --> 01:44:55,371
that do appear to contain policy changes,

2239
01:44:55,371 --> 01:44:57,441
these are either required by state law.

2240
01:44:57,441 --> 01:45:03,831
So we had some new some new laws that were passed in July.

2241
01:45:03,831 --> 01:45:06,891
And so some of those would be reflected.

2242
01:45:06,891 --> 01:45:11,100
We have either a clarification, so something that looks new,

2243
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:13,108
but actually, it's just explaining

2244
01:45:13,108 --> 01:45:17,653
what we have been interpreting this as for a long time, where

2245
01:45:17,653 --> 01:45:22,730
we have a minor change which is being brought to the board's

2246
01:45:22,730 --> 01:45:22,836
attention.

2247
01:45:22,836 --> 01:45:27,350
So first, we're looking at Article five of our overlay

2248
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:28,181
zoning districts.

2249
01:45:28,181 --> 01:45:30,890
These regulations are currently located

2250
01:45:30,890 --> 01:45:32,391
in our ordinance in Article three,

2251
01:45:32,391 --> 01:45:34,612
Section three of the zoning ordinance.

2252
01:45:34,612 --> 01:45:36,981
So that's where all of the overlay district regulations

2253
01:45:36,981 --> 01:45:42,381
are right now And since the overlay zoning district

2254
01:45:42,591 --> 01:45:44,301
regulations are pretty specific.

2255
01:45:44,301 --> 01:45:46,301
They're very self-contained.

2256
01:45:46,521 --> 01:45:49,631
Rewriting them was fairly straightforward Each overlay

2257
01:45:49,631 --> 01:45:53,220
zoning district is separated into its own subsection.

2258
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:55,283
They don't really cross-pollinate much.

2259
01:45:55,283 --> 01:45:58,281
And so rewriting it, we established

2260
01:45:58,281 --> 01:46:04,881
the intent and purpose of each in a more consistent way.

2261
01:46:04,971 --> 01:46:07,477
We wrote the application of the overlay zoning

2262
01:46:07,477 --> 01:46:10,555
district in a very clear way so that if someone

2263
01:46:10,555 --> 01:46:12,401
reads the applicant ability section,

2264
01:46:12,401 --> 01:46:14,555
they understand if that applies to them

2265
01:46:14,555 --> 01:46:18,582
or not But again, the substance, the regulation

2266
01:46:18,582 --> 01:46:19,926
has not really changed.

2267
01:46:19,926 --> 01:46:23,154
Two things I did want to bring to the board's attention,

2268
01:46:23,154 --> 01:46:24,441
Article five.

2269
01:46:24,441 --> 01:46:26,511
First, we did move the language about

2270
01:46:26,511 --> 01:46:29,451
the floodplain administrator power and responsibilities

2271
01:46:29,451 --> 01:46:33,771
into Article two, which was a article brought to the board.

2272
01:46:33,771 --> 01:46:36,171
Previously, the administration section,

2273
01:46:36,556 --> 01:46:38,931
because the establishment of the floodplain administrator

2274
01:46:38,931 --> 01:46:41,961
is not actually how we administer the floodplain.

2275
01:46:41,961 --> 01:46:44,781
It is establishing the person who does it.

2276
01:46:44,781 --> 01:46:46,641
So that's different process.

2277
01:46:46,641 --> 01:46:49,161
That's not in the regulations.

2278
01:46:49,161 --> 01:46:51,111
I did also want to note we reserved

2279
01:46:51,111 --> 01:46:53,331
some sections in the entrance water regulations

2280
01:46:53,331 --> 01:46:56,961
for future language because we do have a zoning text

2281
01:46:56,961 --> 01:47:02,121
amendment in process right now that our RB staff is actively

2282
01:47:02,121 --> 01:47:06,921
working on for outdoor storage sales and display of vehicles.

2283
01:47:06,921 --> 01:47:13,611
So that is reserved in the draft that you saw in your packet

2284
01:47:13,611 --> 01:47:15,981
So Article six was the really the bigger

2285
01:47:15,981 --> 01:47:20,181
left on this particular section of work

2286
01:47:20,331 --> 01:47:23,931
It consolidates all the uses across all of our district

2287
01:47:23,931 --> 01:47:28,731
sections into a consistent use permission tables, format

2288
01:47:29,691 --> 01:47:33,591
So in the current ordinance, anyone who's unfamiliar

2289
01:47:33,591 --> 01:47:36,111
or permitted uses are listed under each district.

2290
01:47:36,111 --> 01:47:40,911
We have the R.A. for marginal Historic district

2291
01:47:40,911 --> 01:47:45,291
or one or 2 or 4, etc. and there's just

2292
01:47:45,291 --> 01:47:47,151
a long list of every single use that you

2293
01:47:47,151 --> 01:47:52,281
can do either permitted by a administrative approval by right

2294
01:47:52,281 --> 01:47:56,211
or permitted by a special use permit approved by the board.

2295
01:47:56,211 --> 01:48:01,566
So some of these are also spread in section 4, which

2296
01:48:01,566 --> 01:48:04,880
is our basic regulations section if something applies everywhere.

2297
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,730
So our accessory solar facilities

2298
01:48:07,730 --> 01:48:09,327
that is in section four.

2299
01:48:09,327 --> 01:48:12,332
But you can do it in all districts

2300
01:48:12,332 --> 01:48:16,291
if you don't know to look for it in section 4,

2301
01:48:16,291 --> 01:48:19,218
you might think you can't do it in any district.

2302
01:48:19,218 --> 01:48:21,346
And then again, we have some things

2303
01:48:21,346 --> 01:48:23,597
that are only in Section five, which is

2304
01:48:23,597 --> 01:48:24,805
our supplemental regulations.

2305
01:48:24,805 --> 01:48:28,581
So that makes looking for use permissions a bit tricky.

2306
01:48:28,581 --> 01:48:30,771
And our new format is widely accepted

2307
01:48:30,771 --> 01:48:33,861
to be a more modern, user friendly approach.

2308
01:48:33,861 --> 01:48:37,521
And so the other big change of other than formatting

2309
01:48:37,521 --> 01:48:40,131
is updating the names of our users

2310
01:48:40,131 --> 01:48:43,431
for consistency across districts and for consistency

2311
01:48:43,431 --> 01:48:47,691
with current usage in modern planning and also consolidating

2312
01:48:47,691 --> 01:48:50,181
uses where uses are similar and the use

2313
01:48:50,181 --> 01:48:52,371
permit plans that exist right now

2314
01:48:52,371 --> 01:48:56,631
are the same today, so no changes for the use permissions.

2315
01:48:56,631 --> 01:48:59,230
Just what they're named.

2316
01:48:59,230 --> 01:49:00,981
This is kind of a visualization of what we just

2317
01:49:00,981 --> 01:49:06,381
said we had the old list just going down

2318
01:49:06,471 --> 01:49:09,681
the line, very long, very descriptive

2319
01:49:09,681 --> 01:49:13,281
and then a cleaner, neater table.

2320
01:49:16,221 --> 01:49:19,821
We did have another specification here,

2321
01:49:19,851 --> 01:49:23,451
which is a clearly a here.

2322
01:49:23,871 --> 01:49:27,861
It's alphabetized looking at the use permissions,

2323
01:49:27,861 --> 01:49:30,711
clarifying whether something is only permitted as an accessory.

2324
01:49:30,711 --> 01:49:33,531
Use which we have a number of those

2325
01:49:33,531 --> 01:49:35,841
uses where you can only do it if you

2326
01:49:35,841 --> 01:49:39,810
have the use that you can have the secondary use

2327
01:49:39,810 --> 01:49:40,761
as an accessory too.

2328
01:49:40,761 --> 01:49:44,961
So you cannot have an accessory apartment unless you have

2329
01:49:44,961 --> 01:49:46,641
a primary residence.

2330
01:49:46,641 --> 01:49:49,641
There so much more, much easier to read,

2331
01:49:49,641 --> 01:49:51,658
much more streamlined and consistent across all

2332
01:49:51,658 --> 01:49:52,241
the districts.

2333
01:49:52,241 --> 01:49:54,641
So the naming conventions.

2334
01:49:55,371 --> 01:49:58,731
So other than the formatting the big changes in Article six

2335
01:49:58,731 --> 01:50:01,641
were the language updates here are just called pulled out

2336
01:50:01,641 --> 01:50:04,821
a couple of the examples to show you

2337
01:50:04,821 --> 01:50:06,891
general trends and a few of the specific

2338
01:50:06,891 --> 01:50:09,561
uses to bring to your attention.

2339
01:50:09,561 --> 01:50:13,281
One consistent change across a multiple uses

2340
01:50:13,281 --> 01:50:17,915
was to give uses that are primarily the same,

2341
01:50:17,915 --> 01:50:20,402
but differ in their intensity.

2342
01:50:20,402 --> 01:50:22,889
A major minor naming distinction.

2343
01:50:22,889 --> 01:50:25,376
So things like a religious assembly

2344
01:50:25,376 --> 01:50:27,776
use over 200 or under 200.

2345
01:50:28,431 --> 01:50:30,771
That comes major and minor.

2346
01:50:30,771 --> 01:50:33,831
A home occupation in which we actually

2347
01:50:33,831 --> 01:50:35,511
have that naming convention.

2348
01:50:35,511 --> 01:50:38,301
Major and minor, but we also have class AA in class B,

2349
01:50:38,301 --> 01:50:43,521
again, consolidating those as they are essentially the same,

2350
01:50:43,521 --> 01:50:45,210
but just in different districts Now

2351
01:50:45,210 --> 01:50:49,410
it's the same name across all districts.

2352
01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:52,131
Similarly, farmworker housing, motor vehicle repair,

2353
01:50:52,131 --> 01:50:55,671
renewable energy systems, country stores data centers.

2354
01:50:55,671 --> 01:50:58,671
These are all currently differentiated

2355
01:50:58,671 --> 01:51:00,510
in two different categories.

2356
01:51:00,510 --> 01:51:06,510
And so we just renamed them under that naming convention.

2357
01:51:07,710 --> 01:51:12,981
One thing that I did want to bring to the board

2358
01:51:12,981 --> 01:51:17,241
attention that is kind of a example of how we are pulling

2359
01:51:17,241 --> 01:51:21,231
things out of the ordinance and cleaning up and seeing more

2360
01:51:21,231 --> 01:51:23,901
easily what we are actually allowed to do

2361
01:51:23,901 --> 01:51:28,671
is update in language for clubs and lodges, clubs and lodges as

2362
01:51:28,671 --> 01:51:32,271
listed in multiple multiple zoning districts.

2363
01:51:32,571 --> 01:51:37,371
Almost all the residential and commercial as well.

2364
01:51:37,881 --> 01:51:41,991
But clubs and lodges within the supplemental regulations

2365
01:51:41,991 --> 01:51:45,531
and sections contains the use of gun clubs

2366
01:51:45,531 --> 01:51:49,431
and shooting ranges as a secondary use

2367
01:51:49,431 --> 01:51:52,401
and this table pulls into two separate uses.

2368
01:51:52,401 --> 01:51:55,410
We have social clubs and lodges and then

2369
01:51:55,410 --> 01:51:57,351
we have gun gun clubs and shooting

2370
01:51:57,351 --> 01:52:00,358
ranges This isn't a change because in the summary

2371
01:52:00,358 --> 01:52:00,953
regulations.

2372
01:52:00,953 --> 01:52:04,819
We specify that anywhere you can have a club or a lodge,

2373
01:52:04,819 --> 01:52:07,496
you can have a gun club and shooting range

2374
01:52:07,496 --> 01:52:08,957
by special use permit.

2375
01:52:08,957 --> 01:52:10,979
That's what's currently in the ordinance.

2376
01:52:10,979 --> 01:52:13,290
This was a little bit surprising to staff

2377
01:52:13,290 --> 01:52:15,601
when they were reading some of this,

2378
01:52:15,601 --> 01:52:18,591
where we were a little bit surprised at that was actually

2379
01:52:18,591 --> 01:52:21,381
in there because we don't get a lot of permits or applications

2380
01:52:21,381 --> 01:52:23,381
for that.

2381
01:52:23,841 --> 01:52:27,430
But this is something that is an excellent illustration of how

2382
01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:30,280
this process combing through the ordinance,

2383
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,741
looking at what we actually have without making changes.

2384
01:52:33,741 --> 01:52:36,711
First, is really giving us a clear

2385
01:52:36,711 --> 01:52:43,131
the scope of what we have to do in future phases.

2386
01:52:43,131 --> 01:52:46,431
So also as you may have noticed on the prior slide,

2387
01:52:46,431 --> 01:52:50,661
a few of the language updates included consolidations.

2388
01:52:50,661 --> 01:52:53,421
So where the uses were essentially the same.

2389
01:52:53,421 --> 01:52:56,241
We did consolidate them to focus more

2390
01:52:56,241 --> 01:52:59,121
on regulating the impact and the nature of the use as opposed

2391
01:52:59,121 --> 01:53:01,521
to the individual uses.

2392
01:53:01,851 --> 01:53:05,481
There's a lot of examples here where

2393
01:53:05,481 --> 01:53:07,581
all the uses that are essentially

2394
01:53:07,581 --> 01:53:12,321
offices there have the same impact, the same traffic

2395
01:53:12,321 --> 01:53:15,171
and they're allowed the same in all different districts.

2396
01:53:15,171 --> 01:53:17,881
They're just listed individually in different districts.

2397
01:53:17,881 --> 01:53:18,381
Now.

2398
01:53:18,381 --> 01:53:19,756
They're all just office business,

2399
01:53:19,756 --> 01:53:23,956
professional admin Same thing with light industrial,

2400
01:53:24,321 --> 01:53:25,911
heavy manufacturing.

2401
01:53:25,911 --> 01:53:27,411
And then also in the next slide, our

2402
01:53:27,411 --> 01:53:33,411
retail where a use could have been fit into this easily,

2403
01:53:33,411 --> 01:53:36,501
but it doesn't actually match up with the exact permissions.

2404
01:53:36,501 --> 01:53:38,310
We separated out that use.

2405
01:53:38,310 --> 01:53:42,201
So for example, all the wholesale distribution

2406
01:53:42,201 --> 01:53:46,221
and warehousing use is a light industrial use.

2407
01:53:46,221 --> 01:53:49,289
It is by its nature a light industrial use

2408
01:53:49,289 --> 01:53:51,994
We did not consolidated into that category,

2409
01:53:51,994 --> 01:53:54,220
because in two different districts.

2410
01:53:54,220 --> 01:53:56,727
It has a slightly different use permission.

2411
01:53:56,727 --> 01:53:59,980
So in phase Three, we may be looking

2412
01:53:59,980 --> 01:54:02,591
at whether those uses can actually all

2413
01:54:02,591 --> 01:54:05,576
be consolidated into a more simplified use category

2414
01:54:05,576 --> 01:54:08,631
and whether we had made unnecessary distinctions

2415
01:54:08,631 --> 01:54:10,851
in the past and it was just maybe

2416
01:54:10,851 --> 01:54:13,491
a holdover from previous expectations

2417
01:54:13,491 --> 01:54:19,161
or an old way of zoning So as I mentioned,

2418
01:54:19,161 --> 01:54:23,271
we have a lot of retail uses in our current ordinance.

2419
01:54:23,271 --> 01:54:25,881
We have 25 different named uses which are

2420
01:54:25,881 --> 01:54:27,761
all retail sales and service.

2421
01:54:27,761 --> 01:54:30,341
And so we have consolidated these

2422
01:54:30,341 --> 01:54:34,541
into 4, 3 retail uses that are listed here.

2423
01:54:35,710 --> 01:54:37,401
Retail sales and service, general neighborhood

2424
01:54:37,401 --> 01:54:41,331
retail sales and services and site and transit commercial.

2425
01:54:41,331 --> 01:54:45,831
So the current zoning ordinance describes a type of retail use

2426
01:54:45,831 --> 01:54:48,921
that is supportive of surrounding residents or office

2427
01:54:48,921 --> 01:54:51,921
or the surrounding industrial uses.

2428
01:54:52,131 --> 01:54:54,471
But it doesn't actually name that separately

2429
01:54:54,471 --> 01:54:57,413
as an individual use in consolidation.

2430
01:54:57,413 --> 01:55:00,801
I'm sorry, in consultation with the long range planning

2431
01:55:00,801 --> 01:55:05,100
team who just completed our lauded 8044 plan,

2432
01:55:06,321 --> 01:55:09,981
we have named that neighborhood retail and services

2433
01:55:09,981 --> 01:55:12,643
highlighting that these uses are intended to serve

2434
01:55:12,643 --> 01:55:13,851
the surrounding neighborhood.

2435
01:55:13,851 --> 01:55:16,491
They're not something that people are necessarily

2436
01:55:16,491 --> 01:55:20,301
going to drive 50 miles in order to come to.

2437
01:55:20,301 --> 01:55:24,381
They're not the big box stores and it's not a big department

2438
01:55:24,381 --> 01:55:26,381
store.

2439
01:55:26,421 --> 01:55:29,901
It's not a business to business that kind of thing.

2440
01:55:29,901 --> 01:55:32,310
We will be writing the limitations

2441
01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:35,746
on this on these types of stores kind of put those boundaries

2442
01:55:35,746 --> 01:55:38,223
on it in the use performances stage,

2443
01:55:38,223 --> 01:55:43,161
which is going to be article seven of this current phase.

2444
01:55:43,161 --> 01:55:45,891
And that's just again, what do we actually do right now

2445
01:55:45,891 --> 01:55:49,410
If someone came in for an application today and wanted

2446
01:55:49,410 --> 01:55:53,160
to have a use that is listed in the ordinance as retail stores

2447
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,641
and shops on a single floor are compatible with the residential

2448
01:55:55,641 --> 01:55:58,141
characteristics of a district with a gross for not exceeding

2449
01:55:58,141 --> 01:56:00,210
4000ft².

2450
01:56:00,210 --> 01:56:02,391
That becomes our supplementary regulations

2451
01:56:02,391 --> 01:56:04,791
or argues performance standards.

2452
01:56:04,881 --> 01:56:10,521
So we also created the category for site intensive commercial.

2453
01:56:10,521 --> 01:56:13,431
These are uses that can't be contained within a building.

2454
01:56:13,431 --> 01:56:15,831
Usually they're more intensive.

2455
01:56:15,921 --> 01:56:20,555
They use a large, larger number of acres, as most of the time,

2456
01:56:20,555 --> 01:56:22,852
these would be uses that are permitted

2457
01:56:22,852 --> 01:56:25,476
in highway, commercial and industrial districts.

2458
01:56:25,476 --> 01:56:28,101
And again, this is just a consolidation

2459
01:56:28,101 --> 01:56:32,901
of these types of uses that already exist.

2460
01:56:34,710 --> 01:56:37,911
So the use changes that I mentioned that were actually

2461
01:56:37,911 --> 01:56:42,741
changes are still very minor changes that we do not believe

2462
01:56:42,741 --> 01:56:46,671
will impact any applications due to their infrequency of receipt

2463
01:56:46,671 --> 01:56:52,710
of application Are the removing crematoriums and outdoor drama

2464
01:56:52,291 --> 01:56:53,541
theaters from the rural areas.

2465
01:56:53,541 --> 01:56:56,541
Zoning district combine agricultural museums

2466
01:56:56,871 --> 01:56:59,631
and historical centers into a single use

2467
01:56:59,631 --> 01:57:04,431
and removing livestock sales from our commercial districts.

2468
01:57:04,941 --> 01:57:07,930
This is a little bit of an attempt

2469
01:57:07,930 --> 01:57:11,413
to get ahead of phase three and see fill out

2470
01:57:11,413 --> 01:57:16,521
how we're doing here because we don't believe that these will

2471
01:57:16,521 --> 01:57:19,521
have any application be forthcoming

2472
01:57:19,601 --> 01:57:20,601
over the next few years.

2473
01:57:20,601 --> 01:57:26,631
We haven't had any previously I think that the last application

2474
01:57:26,631 --> 01:57:32,610
for an outdoor drama theater was over 25 years ago or something

2475
01:57:32,610 --> 01:57:33,899
like that 70s.

2476
01:57:33,899 --> 01:57:36,929
I bet you if you wanted.

2477
01:57:36,929 --> 01:57:39,959
It was it was a time.

2478
01:57:39,959 --> 01:57:43,641
So that I think will be something that will not really

2479
01:57:43,641 --> 01:57:45,124
have an impact.

2480
01:57:45,124 --> 01:57:46,791
Climate atriums are currently permitted

2481
01:57:46,791 --> 01:57:48,801
under funeral homes in the commercial district

2482
01:57:48,801 --> 01:57:51,471
county, which is more logical given truck

2483
01:57:51,471 --> 01:57:53,871
traffic, truck, traffic, necessity,

2484
01:57:54,210 --> 01:57:56,661
proximity to our urban centers.

2485
01:57:56,661 --> 01:58:00,810
And then agricultural and historical centers

2486
01:58:00,810 --> 01:58:04,551
are largely permitted the same across most districts.

2487
01:58:04,551 --> 01:58:07,410
So combining them doesn't really make a lot of change.

2488
01:58:07,410 --> 01:58:09,471
It creates a small amount of change.

2489
01:58:09,471 --> 01:58:15,111
In permission But the primary goals of both of those uses

2490
01:58:15,111 --> 01:58:18,381
is focusing on the agricultural history of the county.

2491
01:58:18,381 --> 01:58:22,198
So both of those would be essentially the same.

2492
01:58:22,198 --> 01:58:23,781
They're just named slightly different.

2493
01:58:23,781 --> 01:58:27,291
And I think that a use that could

2494
01:58:27,291 --> 01:58:30,411
be applied for under either term could

2495
01:58:30,411 --> 01:58:34,978
be argued to be applied for under the other term.

2496
01:58:34,978 --> 01:58:38,596
So as such, we recommend these changes

2497
01:58:38,596 --> 01:58:46,396
as for review by the board here listed on are screened for easy

2498
01:58:48,231 --> 01:58:50,231
for easy reference.

2499
01:58:50,391 --> 01:58:53,573
But the other thing that we had, which

2500
01:58:53,573 --> 01:58:56,310
was poor recommendation from the Planning Commission, which

2501
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:59,926
has a little bit more formatting is changing the permissions

2502
01:58:59,926 --> 01:59:01,241
for farmers markets.

2503
01:59:01,241 --> 01:59:03,215
Industrial districts to align to mirror

2504
01:59:03,215 --> 01:59:05,846
the ones in all other districts, which

2505
01:59:05,846 --> 01:59:11,846
has to be a square footage and a permanency distinction

2506
01:59:12,501 --> 01:59:15,231
between major and minor farmer's markets as opposed

2507
01:59:15,231 --> 01:59:19,921
to a square footage in an existing building which

2508
01:59:19,921 --> 01:59:22,321
is the current distinction.

2509
01:59:22,796 --> 01:59:29,301
So with that in mind I would ask the Board these two questions.

2510
01:59:29,301 --> 01:59:32,841
Are the just mentioned use and formatting changes

2511
01:59:32,841 --> 01:59:36,111
acceptable to the board and do overall

2512
01:59:36,111 --> 01:59:38,511
all the types of changes that we're recommending

2513
01:59:38,511 --> 01:59:42,291
that you saw in your executive summary packets

2514
01:59:42,291 --> 01:59:46,551
for these two articles aligning with your expectations

2515
01:59:46,551 --> 01:59:48,551
for this phase.

2516
01:59:50,181 --> 01:59:51,210
All right.

2517
01:59:51,210 --> 01:59:51,600
Supervisor.

2518
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:57,561
Look, Mr. Kirkland the I like your simplified review process.

2519
01:59:57,561 --> 02:00:00,801
All I wanted you know, can you well,

2520
02:00:00,801 --> 02:00:03,561
can you tell me the simplified review process?

2521
02:00:03,561 --> 02:00:07,161
Well, that saved time for developers.

2522
02:00:09,951 --> 02:00:10,671
We do believe it.

2523
02:00:10,671 --> 02:00:14,871
Well, the big simplified review process change

2524
02:00:15,831 --> 02:00:20,631
was regarding initial site plans, which we currently

2525
02:00:21,711 --> 02:00:25,761
have a requirement for an initial a preliminary

2526
02:00:25,761 --> 02:00:28,971
and a final site plan for all applications,

2527
02:00:28,971 --> 02:00:33,216
even if there is no change between those two site plans

2528
02:00:33,216 --> 02:00:38,160
and then with guidance from the current development

2529
02:00:39,816 --> 02:00:42,439
planning team who reviews those applications

2530
02:00:42,439 --> 02:00:46,360
and also with encouragement from our local development community,

2531
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:48,913
we made the preliminary site plans and maybe

2532
02:00:48,913 --> 02:00:50,352
calling them wrong.

2533
02:00:50,352 --> 02:00:51,681
Appreciate it.

2534
02:00:51,681 --> 02:00:52,272
Sure.

2535
02:00:52,272 --> 02:00:54,930
It's preliminary initial, but the first site plan

2536
02:00:54,930 --> 02:00:57,884
is going to be optional, unless there is grading

2537
02:00:57,884 --> 02:01:01,423
or architectural review board requirements So that will remove

2538
02:01:01,423 --> 02:01:03,807
an entire step of the process.

2539
02:01:03,807 --> 02:01:04,488
OK.

2540
02:01:04,488 --> 02:01:08,233
So that will save time both for commercial and residential.

2541
02:01:08,233 --> 02:01:09,751
Yes that is.

2542
02:01:09,751 --> 02:01:10,251
Thank you.

2543
02:01:10,251 --> 02:01:14,610
And you mentioned about Major and minor

2544
02:01:14,610 --> 02:01:16,131
and you mentioned data centers.

2545
02:01:16,131 --> 02:01:20,100
Do do we have can we get a lot of questions regarding data

2546
02:01:20,100 --> 02:01:20,762
centers ?

2547
02:01:20,762 --> 02:01:23,729
But we do have numbers on that regarding

2548
02:01:23,729 --> 02:01:26,325
because you had mentioned for churches,

2549
02:01:26,325 --> 02:01:30,525
as you know, under 200 over 200 major minor,

2550
02:01:30,921 --> 02:01:32,271
Do you have the same thing?

2551
02:01:32,271 --> 02:01:34,110
Numbers for data centers?

2552
02:01:34,110 --> 02:01:37,671
Yes, it's a square footage distinction that's

2553
02:01:37,671 --> 02:01:40,710
currently in the ordinance.

2554
02:01:40,611 --> 02:01:43,384
I believe that's the most that page.

2555
02:01:43,384 --> 02:01:43,884
Yeah.

2556
02:01:43,884 --> 02:01:45,550
Let me pull that.

2557
02:01:45,550 --> 02:01:47,521
Where 30,000ft²?

2558
02:01:47,521 --> 02:01:48,210
Yeah.

2559
02:01:48,210 --> 02:01:49,401
40,000ft².

2560
02:01:49,401 --> 02:01:50,271
Pardon?

2561
02:01:50,271 --> 02:01:51,331
40,000ft².

2562
02:01:51,331 --> 02:01:51,831
Okay.

2563
02:01:51,831 --> 02:01:53,421
So that's the considered.

2564
02:01:53,421 --> 02:01:54,771
I know.

2565
02:01:54,771 --> 02:01:57,578
I'm familiar with the 40,000ft² that we currently allow.

2566
02:01:57,578 --> 02:01:59,243
That's considered a minor.

2567
02:01:59,243 --> 02:02:01,240
No, that's a major.

2568
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:02,572
That's a major.

2569
02:02:02,572 --> 02:02:03,238
OK.

2570
02:02:03,238 --> 02:02:06,651
And I do not believe there is actually

2571
02:02:06,651 --> 02:02:10,251
any difference in treatment between them right now.

2572
02:02:10,251 --> 02:02:13,791
Only go to that experiment as p.

2573
02:02:13,791 --> 02:02:17,271
Yes, they are both especially use permits,

2574
02:02:17,271 --> 02:02:21,726
which I believe was the previous distinction when the board most

2575
02:02:21,726 --> 02:02:23,751
recently talked about that.

2576
02:02:23,751 --> 02:02:26,966
So they are different but they're just

2577
02:02:26,966 --> 02:02:28,561
a different distinction.

2578
02:02:28,561 --> 02:02:31,352
And based on the supplemental regulations,

2579
02:02:31,352 --> 02:02:33,745
the uses are the same.

2580
02:02:33,745 --> 02:02:37,311
They're both special use permits and it's not it

2581
02:02:37,311 --> 02:02:40,551
has nothing to do with square footage sensors, just one set.

2582
02:02:40,551 --> 02:02:42,681
You just had the 40,000, correct?

2583
02:02:42,681 --> 02:02:44,310
I mean, I'm sorry.

2584
02:02:44,310 --> 02:02:45,830
Could you repeat that?

2585
02:02:45,830 --> 02:02:45,716
OK.

2586
02:02:45,716 --> 02:02:47,613
So you have the 40,000ft².

2587
02:02:47,613 --> 02:02:50,776
But what you're saying is you have no distinction between

2588
02:02:50,776 --> 02:02:54,561
the major and minor regarding the 40,000ft².

2589
02:02:54,561 --> 02:02:56,871
There are other things that you may

2590
02:02:56,871 --> 02:03:00,141
consider it to be a major minor, but not the square footage.

2591
02:03:00,141 --> 02:03:01,281
Is that correct?

2592
02:03:01,281 --> 02:03:04,373
For commercial districts it's the same

2593
02:03:04,373 --> 02:03:05,996
for industrial districts.

2594
02:03:05,996 --> 02:03:08,836
The minor are permitted to buy.

2595
02:03:08,836 --> 02:03:09,647
Right.

2596
02:03:09,647 --> 02:03:10,458
Okay.

2597
02:03:10,458 --> 02:03:11,270
Okay.

2598
02:03:11,270 --> 02:03:13,281
And again that's what we have now.

2599
02:03:13,281 --> 02:03:13,921
So.

2600
02:03:13,921 --> 02:03:14,421
Yeah.

2601
02:03:14,421 --> 02:03:16,671
And could you explain a little bit more

2602
02:03:16,671 --> 02:03:19,710
regarding the farmer's markets?

2603
02:03:19,874 --> 02:03:23,474
Sure So the farmer's markets distinction

2604
02:03:26,391 --> 02:03:31,371
in the commercial districts and in the residential districts

2605
02:03:31,371 --> 02:03:34,980
is a distinction between whether the farmer's markets are

2606
02:03:34,980 --> 02:03:37,992
permanent and how many days a week.

2607
02:03:37,992 --> 02:03:39,874
They can be held.

2608
02:03:39,874 --> 02:03:43,621
So we would call it a farmer's market.

2609
02:03:43,621 --> 02:03:44,121
Still.

2610
02:03:44,121 --> 02:03:46,246
But if we think about something like Eastern Market

2611
02:03:46,246 --> 02:03:50,849
in in Washington, D.C., or a French Albemarle market where

2612
02:03:50,849 --> 02:03:52,672
there are stalls that are permanent

2613
02:03:52,672 --> 02:03:57,230
and the farmers come out, you know, three, four days a week

2614
02:03:57,230 --> 02:04:02,128
and sell their wares, that would be a major farmer's market,

2615
02:04:02,128 --> 02:04:04,461
the main farmer's market is the one where they come out.

2616
02:04:04,461 --> 02:04:06,904
They put a pop up tent up, they put their table out,

2617
02:04:06,904 --> 02:04:07,821
and then they go away.

2618
02:04:07,821 --> 02:04:11,917
And it's only, you know 1 to 2 days a week.

2619
02:04:11,917 --> 02:04:15,390
So that is the distinction currently in the ordinance

2620
02:04:15,390 --> 02:04:17,121
and the difference between industrial districts

2621
02:04:17,121 --> 02:04:22,821
is that we have a distinction for a total square footage

2622
02:04:22,821 --> 02:04:25,941
of whether it's a major or a major

2623
02:04:25,941 --> 02:04:28,581
or a minor farmer's market.

2624
02:04:28,581 --> 02:04:30,358
And then we're just saying, you know

2625
02:04:30,358 --> 02:04:33,298
what, let's just make it the same as all the other districts.

2626
02:04:33,298 --> 02:04:33,801
Yeah.

2627
02:04:33,801 --> 02:04:35,670
And thank you very much.

2628
02:04:35,670 --> 02:04:37,710
Those are all my questions.

2629
02:04:37,710 --> 02:04:39,471
Supervisor Malik Thank you.

2630
02:04:39,903 --> 02:04:40,465
Yes.

2631
02:04:40,465 --> 02:04:42,149
And yes to your questions.

2632
02:04:42,149 --> 02:04:44,113
But I do a your questions.

2633
02:04:44,113 --> 02:04:46,639
But I would love some clarifications and/or put them

2634
02:04:46,639 --> 02:04:50,547
on a list to clarify later and bring back because I just

2635
02:04:50,547 --> 02:04:54,149
want to make sure that, you know, well,

2636
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:59,399
in advance of things that may or may not have made sense to me.

2637
02:04:59,399 --> 02:05:01,534
And maybe others as well.

2638
02:05:01,534 --> 02:05:03,668
So going through my page.

2639
02:05:03,668 --> 02:05:08,468
Here we are in on blood hazard districts,

2640
02:05:10,341 --> 02:05:13,311
it's clear that page 11 of my homework care

2641
02:05:13,311 --> 02:05:14,961
amendment of district boundaries There

2642
02:05:14,961 --> 02:05:20,631
are three categories of when the district the decider agent

2643
02:05:20,631 --> 02:05:25,752
could make a decision and natural manmade changes more

2644
02:05:25,752 --> 02:05:28,733
detailed studies have been conducted by record engineers

2645
02:05:28,733 --> 02:05:30,597
or in individual documents.

2646
02:05:30,597 --> 02:05:34,261
The need what I mean, do they decide ?

2647
02:05:34,261 --> 02:05:38,287
See the last individual request take the place of A and B?

2648
02:05:38,287 --> 02:05:42,623
It was not clear if you have to have all three of those things

2649
02:05:42,623 --> 02:05:43,861
or just what.

2650
02:05:43,861 --> 02:05:46,251
So the flood hazard overlay district, we actually

2651
02:05:46,251 --> 02:05:48,351
didn't make hardly any changes to even

2652
02:05:48,351 --> 02:05:51,951
in the language that is what's currently in our ordinance

2653
02:05:51,951 --> 02:05:53,951
right now.

2654
02:05:54,568 --> 02:05:59,968
The the language there is interpreted by the floodplain

2655
02:06:02,419 --> 02:06:06,619
administrator and the need that is required

2656
02:06:07,251 --> 02:06:10,881
would be something that would be meeting a much higher bar

2657
02:06:10,881 --> 02:06:12,632
than just i want this.

2658
02:06:12,632 --> 02:06:13,228
Yeah, yeah.

2659
02:06:13,228 --> 02:06:13,728
OK.

2660
02:06:13,728 --> 02:06:14,276
Very good.

2661
02:06:14,276 --> 02:06:17,160
I just wanted to make sure that was not clear when I read it.

2662
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,390
And I thought, Huh, somebody else may say the same thing

2663
02:06:19,390 --> 02:06:22,990
and get equally worried that when

2664
02:06:23,931 --> 02:06:27,981
they don't need to do the okay, now

2665
02:06:27,981 --> 02:06:33,626
I'm on to the use table in Section five of a still article

2666
02:06:33,626 --> 02:06:34,674
five.

2667
02:06:34,674 --> 02:06:35,721
OK.

2668
02:06:35,721 --> 02:06:38,721
Oh no, skip that one.

2669
02:06:39,386 --> 02:06:42,921
Nevermind the public utilities I don't think this

2670
02:06:42,921 --> 02:06:44,240
came up in the later channels.

2671
02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:50,610
So this is on page 22 of 36 of the packet on article five

2672
02:06:50,610 --> 02:06:52,671
Electric gas Oil of communications facilities

2673
02:06:52,671 --> 02:06:55,671
as permitted in all districts.

2674
02:06:56,991 --> 02:06:59,540
There's no mention of transmission lines.

2675
02:06:59,540 --> 02:07:02,250
And I think there in your future work

2676
02:07:02,250 --> 02:07:04,996
there should be because we can't look away

2677
02:07:04,996 --> 02:07:07,595
from an issue that is making everybody

2678
02:07:07,595 --> 02:07:09,951
crazy for the next many, many years.

2679
02:07:09,951 --> 02:07:12,510
And so I think since it's not in here,

2680
02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:13,774
if there's a different place for it,

2681
02:07:13,774 --> 02:07:15,441
then you can explain that in the future.

2682
02:07:15,441 --> 02:07:18,840
But to me, that's a very big gap right now

2683
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:20,961
as you see fighting with itself about how to do this.

2684
02:07:20,961 --> 02:07:23,781
We need to be prepared and have our things done

2685
02:07:23,781 --> 02:07:25,611
before they change something.

2686
02:07:25,611 --> 02:07:29,811
In my opinion this is article five.

2687
02:07:30,471 --> 02:07:33,751
Still natural resource extraction Division five point

2688
02:07:33,751 --> 02:07:34,731
5AA552A.

2689
02:07:34,731 --> 02:07:41,101
A use permitted in the district is unlikely to create an effect.

2690
02:07:41,101 --> 02:07:44,701
Adverse public health, safety, and welfare.

2691
02:07:45,512 --> 02:07:48,411
I'm extremely troubled by unlikely to create.

2692
02:07:48,411 --> 02:07:52,431
This is a 40 year old approach that I remember

2693
02:07:52,431 --> 02:07:55,671
as causing all sorts of trouble for many other generations

2694
02:07:55,671 --> 02:08:01,229
of work And I would ask you to be a lot more specific.

2695
02:08:01,229 --> 02:08:03,545
And get some other criteria there

2696
02:08:03,545 --> 02:08:07,660
because that does not give citizenry a lot of confidence

2697
02:08:07,660 --> 02:08:08,521
that somebody is watching.

2698
02:08:08,521 --> 02:08:10,268
They want to assume that government

2699
02:08:10,268 --> 02:08:12,150
is doing its protection job.

2700
02:08:12,150 --> 02:08:16,410
And if we're not going to, we need to very explicitly tell

2701
02:08:16,410 --> 02:08:17,871
them that they're on their own.

2702
02:08:17,871 --> 02:08:19,191
Okay.

2703
02:08:19,191 --> 02:08:22,791
Article six agricultural districts use table.

2704
02:08:22,791 --> 02:08:24,741
I assume that used to be a rural area

2705
02:08:24,741 --> 02:08:27,557
and now it's just called because we don't officially have

2706
02:08:27,557 --> 02:08:29,247
egg districts in our zones.

2707
02:08:29,247 --> 02:08:30,655
So that's a question.

2708
02:08:30,655 --> 02:08:32,908
You all will have to figure out how

2709
02:08:32,908 --> 02:08:37,911
to explain But my concern burn is artisan manufacture

2710
02:08:37,911 --> 02:08:40,710
drink while it's listed in the industrial page

2711
02:08:40,710 --> 02:08:45,310
is not showing up in the a and we've spent like five

2712
02:08:45,310 --> 02:08:46,421
years talking about this.

2713
02:08:46,421 --> 02:08:48,367
And it was proposed and agreed.

2714
02:08:48,367 --> 02:08:51,147
When applicants are told many, many years ago.

2715
02:08:51,147 --> 02:08:53,752
This is going to be done in the zoning agreement

2716
02:08:53,752 --> 02:08:56,280
and it's not in here, I would just

2717
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:58,811
ask you to make sure that it gets in there.

2718
02:08:58,811 --> 02:09:01,870
So we don't have to have a repeat.

2719
02:09:01,870 --> 02:09:03,591
I can list off a dozen preexisting artisan cabinet

2720
02:09:03,591 --> 02:09:05,211
makers all throughout the Whitehall

2721
02:09:05,211 --> 02:09:08,211
district and the Ravenna district for sure, and probably

2722
02:09:08,211 --> 02:09:09,291
others as well.

2723
02:09:09,291 --> 02:09:11,721
That so I just think some fairness

2724
02:09:11,721 --> 02:09:14,721
there is important Thank you.

2725
02:09:14,980 --> 02:09:16,731
Passionate.

2726
02:09:16,731 --> 02:09:18,764
Oh, you're so welcome.

2727
02:09:18,764 --> 02:09:20,181
And a slow reader, which is why it

2728
02:09:20,181 --> 02:09:22,241
makes it easy for me to do these things

2729
02:09:22,241 --> 02:09:23,524
and makes everybody crazy.

2730
02:09:23,524 --> 02:09:26,910
Like, oh God, here she goes again.

2731
02:09:26,910 --> 02:09:27,888
Farmer's markets, major and minor.

2732
02:09:27,888 --> 02:09:30,198
You did talk about that a little bit when

2733
02:09:30,198 --> 02:09:33,381
the farmers market, farm sales off farm sales on farm sales

2734
02:09:33,381 --> 02:09:37,551
was done in 2012, It was very specifically done

2735
02:09:37,551 --> 02:09:40,551
for no permanent structures allowed

2736
02:09:41,421 --> 02:09:44,910
And then all of a sudden one popped up in the Jewett district

2737
02:09:44,910 --> 02:09:47,934
a couple of years ago with no process whatsoever coming

2738
02:09:47,934 --> 02:09:49,101
to the Board of Supervisors.

2739
02:09:49,101 --> 02:09:52,341
Many, many constituents raised concerns to him.

2740
02:09:52,341 --> 02:09:57,741
As Duncan's predecessor, and nothing was done about that.

2741
02:09:58,371 --> 02:10:02,421
This is a grocery store in the rural area.

2742
02:10:02,421 --> 02:10:04,641
It is not selling local stuff.

2743
02:10:04,641 --> 02:10:06,943
Most of the time they're out of season vegetables

2744
02:10:06,943 --> 02:10:08,901
and they're selling meats and things like that.

2745
02:10:08,901 --> 02:10:13,281
So i just ask you to very carefully define

2746
02:10:13,281 --> 02:10:15,471
going forward what we're talking about here,

2747
02:10:15,471 --> 02:10:20,151
because it's a big, big leap from a cluster of tents

2748
02:10:20,151 --> 02:10:23,511
at any number of different places

2749
02:10:23,511 --> 02:10:26,910
early to churches, cozy churches,

2750
02:10:26,910 --> 02:10:28,821
other places where they do have true farmer's markets

2751
02:10:28,821 --> 02:10:31,821
and are using existing approved.

2752
02:10:31,821 --> 02:10:32,781
You got entrances.

2753
02:10:32,781 --> 02:10:37,581
And that was the whole point of that

2754
02:10:37,851 --> 02:10:39,591
So that is something for the future

2755
02:10:39,591 --> 02:10:42,591
of 6.4 commercial districts commercial districts,

2756
02:10:48,455 --> 02:10:49,972
inner waste.

2757
02:10:49,972 --> 02:10:54,525
Fill is that considered as a standalone in commercial

2758
02:10:54,525 --> 02:10:59,920
that you would have our commercial zone used to make

2759
02:10:59,920 --> 02:11:03,686
a dump for asphalt. It's permitted right now, yes.

2760
02:11:03,686 --> 02:11:04,451
OK.

2761
02:11:04,451 --> 02:11:05,982
Work to do.

2762
02:11:05,982 --> 02:11:08,878
I will not worry about that right now.

2763
02:11:08,878 --> 02:11:09,460
Industrial.

2764
02:11:09,460 --> 02:11:10,420
OK.

2765
02:11:10,420 --> 02:11:11,789
We talked about an artisan.

2766
02:11:11,789 --> 02:11:17,721
I think I am one more folded over what is that Oh, okay.

2767
02:11:17,721 --> 02:11:23,211
Yeah, that's just referring back in to the transmission line gap

2768
02:11:23,211 --> 02:11:26,246
under public use services and utilities I will stop there.

2769
02:11:26,246 --> 02:11:27,621
Thank you very much for all your.

2770
02:11:27,621 --> 02:11:29,154
I love the read of this.

2771
02:11:29,154 --> 02:11:31,596
Having struggled with small print from the old one

2772
02:11:31,596 --> 02:11:34,221
and always having to go back and forth from chapter to chapter.

2773
02:11:34,221 --> 02:11:36,210
You've made huge progress.

2774
02:11:36,210 --> 02:11:40,821
So thank you, Supervisor Sir Duncan Thank you

2775
02:11:41,241 --> 02:11:44,271
for the presentation and how well organized was it?

2776
02:11:44,271 --> 02:11:46,761
Was in reading through the packet.

2777
02:11:46,761 --> 02:11:50,100
It was kind of hard for me to wrap my mind around what exactly

2778
02:11:50,100 --> 02:11:52,161
the changes were, and now it makes a whole lot

2779
02:11:52,161 --> 02:11:58,761
more sense I really like the change and having the tables,

2780
02:11:59,241 --> 02:12:02,310
you know, when you are trying to figure out what you can do

2781
02:12:02,310 --> 02:12:04,424
and reading through the code like it's a good exercise.

2782
02:12:04,424 --> 02:12:05,841
So like when the code and clicking

2783
02:12:05,841 --> 02:12:09,741
through and like reading the text, but it's very confusing

2784
02:12:09,741 --> 02:12:12,291
and kind of time and town sort of So having the tables

2785
02:12:12,291 --> 02:12:13,710
is great.

2786
02:12:13,710 --> 02:12:18,510
And I am very much looking forward to phase three.

2787
02:12:18,510 --> 02:12:21,510
Yes, me to supervisor proof.

2788
02:12:21,141 --> 02:12:24,355
I'm I agree the tables are great.

2789
02:12:24,355 --> 02:12:26,533
These tables are really standard practice.

2790
02:12:26,533 --> 02:12:30,580
And I'm happy to see us using them at a few questions.

2791
02:12:30,580 --> 02:12:33,210
Can we actually go to the previous slide

2792
02:12:33,210 --> 02:12:37,221
that had the recommended changes these all

2793
02:12:38,871 --> 02:12:42,594
feel pretty innocuous I will say I just

2794
02:12:42,594 --> 02:12:46,621
don't know that I understand why we're doing the first one.

2795
02:12:46,621 --> 02:12:51,421
Like you said, we're not currently getting them

2796
02:12:51,876 --> 02:12:54,810
but we already have the policy.

2797
02:12:54,810 --> 02:12:55,971
And we could get them.

2798
02:12:55,971 --> 02:13:00,879
So I'm like, do we not want to have it?

2799
02:13:00,879 --> 02:13:03,921
It almost feels like it's a sneak policy decision,

2800
02:13:03,921 --> 02:13:05,451
like we're taking this opportunity

2801
02:13:05,451 --> 02:13:09,651
to remove crematoriums and amphitheaters as things

2802
02:13:09,899 --> 02:13:11,137
in the rural area.

2803
02:13:11,137 --> 02:13:13,119
And I'm not sure that feels like one

2804
02:13:13,119 --> 02:13:15,348
that doesn't feel like an intuitive thing for me

2805
02:13:15,348 --> 02:13:17,820
to make a decision on today.

2806
02:13:17,820 --> 02:13:19,941
And I'm not sure it feels like a thing i necessarily

2807
02:13:19,941 --> 02:13:21,201
even agree with right.

2808
02:13:21,201 --> 02:13:25,581
Because crematoriums are like funeral homes, but they're also,

2809
02:13:25,581 --> 02:13:30,660
unlike funeral homes, they're much more in my experience,

2810
02:13:30,660 --> 02:13:35,286
having burned up to family members, they are lighter touch.

2811
02:13:35,286 --> 02:13:37,896
They're smaller facilities because they're not

2812
02:13:37,896 --> 02:13:41,150
doing the same degree of wraparound services.

2813
02:13:41,150 --> 02:13:45,579
So can I understand why this is in front of us

2814
02:13:45,579 --> 02:13:47,593
in this exact moment?

2815
02:13:47,593 --> 02:13:48,398
Absolutely.

2816
02:13:48,398 --> 02:13:51,471
So i will address the two questions separately

2817
02:13:51,471 --> 02:13:53,121
because they're on the same line,

2818
02:13:53,121 --> 02:13:55,371
but they are actually two different reasons.

2819
02:13:55,371 --> 02:14:01,371
The crematoriums is a public like service kind of thing

2820
02:14:01,611 --> 02:14:06,111
that we would normally put in our commercial districts

2821
02:14:06,111 --> 02:14:09,351
or industrial districts per our comprehensive plan.

2822
02:14:09,351 --> 02:14:14,661
So businesses that people come to from all around the county

2823
02:14:14,661 --> 02:14:18,651
are intended to be located in our development areas

2824
02:14:18,651 --> 02:14:20,421
not in our rural areas.

2825
02:14:20,421 --> 02:14:23,481
So that's the reasoning for the crematoriums.

2826
02:14:23,481 --> 02:14:27,441
And then also the services that they would need.

2827
02:14:27,441 --> 02:14:28,881
As far as utilities.

2828
02:14:28,881 --> 02:14:30,814
So that's just kind of bringing it into line

2829
02:14:30,814 --> 02:14:31,731
with what we have now.

2830
02:14:31,731 --> 02:14:34,731
We have different crematoriums than we did in 1980

2831
02:14:34,731 --> 02:14:36,771
when this was first adopted.

2832
02:14:36,771 --> 02:14:40,221
The outer drama districts sorry, the elder drama theaters

2833
02:14:40,221 --> 02:14:43,110
are something that we acknowledge.

2834
02:14:43,110 --> 02:14:45,210
Hey, this seems like it should be something

2835
02:14:45,210 --> 02:14:47,361
that we actually really like.

2836
02:14:47,361 --> 02:14:49,491
It's something that's really interesting.

2837
02:14:49,491 --> 02:14:52,710
How does it play into all the other outdoor

2838
02:14:52,710 --> 02:14:55,971
recreational things that we want in the rural area?

2839
02:14:55,971 --> 02:14:58,341
And so when we're looking at that,

2840
02:14:58,341 --> 02:14:59,751
we're trying to consolidate uses.

2841
02:14:59,751 --> 02:15:02,126
Well, what's the difference between outdoor drama theater

2842
02:15:02,126 --> 02:15:05,126
and an outdoor acoustic amphitheater?

2843
02:15:05,871 --> 02:15:08,510
How do we treat these two different uses

2844
02:15:08,510 --> 02:15:09,632
that are basically the same?

2845
02:15:09,632 --> 02:15:13,320
Well, right now, you can do one in the rural area,

2846
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:15,427
but you can't do the other one.

2847
02:15:15,427 --> 02:15:19,287
And we need to investigate that more more in depth.

2848
02:15:19,287 --> 02:15:22,128
And that is on the current work plan

2849
02:15:22,128 --> 02:15:24,615
for the rural area plan really are

2850
02:15:24,615 --> 02:15:29,424
uses plan that I believe will be forthcoming from the

2851
02:15:29,424 --> 02:15:31,824
from the planning division.

2852
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:37,874
OK Let's kind of engage in a little bit more

2853
02:15:37,874 --> 02:15:39,350
discussion on this.

2854
02:15:39,350 --> 02:15:42,519
Like to just having not thought deeply about either of these two

2855
02:15:42,519 --> 02:15:46,131
issues prior to this moment My instinct is I

2856
02:15:46,131 --> 02:15:50,931
like both of these in the rural area,

2857
02:15:53,721 --> 02:15:55,754
the disposition of human remains is

2858
02:15:55,754 --> 02:15:59,980
a right of cultural significance and community significance.

2859
02:15:59,980 --> 02:16:01,327
It's a community based thing.

2860
02:16:01,327 --> 02:16:03,556
We just heard from people talking

2861
02:16:03,556 --> 02:16:08,530
about the history and the place based nature of coal spill.

2862
02:16:08,530 --> 02:16:10,873
A think to slurp black rural communities have

2863
02:16:10,873 --> 02:16:12,988
is their own funeral parlor.

2864
02:16:12,988 --> 02:16:17,910
It's like a very anchoring thing in a culture.

2865
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:21,171
And while I appreciate the point you're making,

2866
02:16:21,171 --> 02:16:23,497
I think you need the ability to have

2867
02:16:23,497 --> 02:16:25,624
a funeral parlor in the rural area

2868
02:16:25,624 --> 02:16:27,752
because it's a place anchoring service.

2869
02:16:27,752 --> 02:16:31,950
And so that kind of almost stepped in that way.

2870
02:16:31,950 --> 02:16:32,919
I'm agreeing with your point.

2871
02:16:32,919 --> 02:16:33,527
Right.

2872
02:16:33,527 --> 02:16:35,569
Crematorium is should be treated like other kinds

2873
02:16:35,569 --> 02:16:36,441
of funeral parlors.

2874
02:16:36,441 --> 02:16:39,171
But I maybe in this moment in realizing

2875
02:16:39,171 --> 02:16:42,810
that we don't allow funeral parlors period in the rural area

2876
02:16:42,810 --> 02:16:45,291
And so maybe that's the thing I'm concerned with.

2877
02:16:45,291 --> 02:16:50,481
And I think I might be having similar for different reasons.

2878
02:16:50,481 --> 02:16:54,136
Concern on outdoor drama theaters because both of these I

2879
02:16:54,136 --> 02:16:58,625
heard of like I can see concerns in the rural area, right?

2880
02:16:58,625 --> 02:17:02,691
Like I don't want to put Wolf Trap on Langhorne Road

2881
02:17:02,691 --> 02:17:05,301
because I don't know that we can support it right now.

2882
02:17:05,301 --> 02:17:10,281
But I want Wolf Trap to be in Albemarle County

2883
02:17:10,281 --> 02:17:14,361
and I would think it would belong in the rural area.

2884
02:17:14,361 --> 02:17:17,413
So like both of these feel like uses.

2885
02:17:17,413 --> 02:17:22,971
I hope if I say yes to this first bullet,

2886
02:17:22,971 --> 02:17:25,828
we aren't leaving it alone.

2887
02:17:25,828 --> 02:17:27,411
We are going to come back and actually

2888
02:17:27,411 --> 02:17:31,214
talk about how we want to locate and place those uses,

2889
02:17:31,214 --> 02:17:33,381
because both of those, I think have tremendous value

2890
02:17:33,381 --> 02:17:35,391
in our rural area.

2891
02:17:35,391 --> 02:17:39,501
And I think it sounds like that's kind of the plan

2892
02:17:39,501 --> 02:17:42,369
that we will have a more fulsome discussion of this later.

2893
02:17:42,369 --> 02:17:44,896
And right now, we're just tidying them up and cleaning

2894
02:17:44,896 --> 02:17:46,275
them together with like uses.

2895
02:17:46,275 --> 02:17:48,573
But I want to just clarify, am I going

2896
02:17:48,573 --> 02:17:52,821
to get another crack at this to talk about where it does belong?

2897
02:17:52,821 --> 02:17:53,601
Yeah, absolutely.

2898
02:17:53,601 --> 02:17:55,851
If specially with your note about the funeral

2899
02:17:55,851 --> 02:17:59,331
homes being something that maybe we do need in the rural area

2900
02:17:59,331 --> 02:18:02,151
that that would be something that I think

2901
02:18:02,151 --> 02:18:03,831
should be investigated thoroughly

2902
02:18:03,831 --> 02:18:08,910
and should be part of a community discussion.

2903
02:18:08,910 --> 02:18:09,591
Also, just kind of the clarification

2904
02:18:09,591 --> 02:18:12,321
on the outdoor drama theater that is currently

2905
02:18:12,321 --> 02:18:14,301
allowed in the rural area is only

2906
02:18:14,301 --> 02:18:16,701
for a historical production.

2907
02:18:17,151 --> 02:18:21,560
How about an event that happened in Albemarle County's history

2908
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:24,490
that such a funny use to have?

2909
02:18:24,490 --> 02:18:25,604
What a funny thing.

2910
02:18:25,604 --> 02:18:27,160
What a funny county.

2911
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:29,160
OK For that.

2912
02:18:30,554 --> 02:18:32,121
For the 200th anniversary.

2913
02:18:32,121 --> 02:18:35,254
We had a pageant and a cast of thousands pageant

2914
02:18:35,254 --> 02:18:36,821
for where we been.

2915
02:18:36,821 --> 02:18:39,821
I was little history, man.

2916
02:18:39,939 --> 02:18:41,427
Oh, okay.

2917
02:18:41,427 --> 02:18:43,659
Oh, I'm stepping aside.

2918
02:18:43,659 --> 02:18:45,891
That the rest of this?

2919
02:18:45,891 --> 02:18:47,379
Yeah, sure.

2920
02:18:47,379 --> 02:18:52,851
The the major minor change you know some of the comparable uses

2921
02:18:52,851 --> 02:18:55,431
previously were broken into class A

2922
02:18:55,431 --> 02:18:58,410
and I immediately think i might not

2923
02:18:58,410 --> 02:19:03,441
want I might want enumerated classes subdivide into use

2924
02:19:04,341 --> 02:19:07,143
rather than major minor subdividing a use

2925
02:19:07,143 --> 02:19:10,314
because I have more than two subdivisions

2926
02:19:10,314 --> 02:19:15,543
is major minor got to be granular enough for all uses.

2927
02:19:15,543 --> 02:19:17,790
It's it possible.

2928
02:19:17,790 --> 02:19:19,383
We outgrow the level of granularity

2929
02:19:19,383 --> 02:19:21,303
that offers it's possible.

2930
02:19:21,303 --> 02:19:24,375
We don't have any uses currently that I

2931
02:19:24,375 --> 02:19:27,711
believe are really divided into three categories like that.

2932
02:19:27,711 --> 02:19:30,171
We only have things that are divide that are similar,

2933
02:19:30,171 --> 02:19:34,101
that are divided into something that falls under this that

2934
02:19:34,101 --> 02:19:39,951
may not have been obvious is I don't feel repair shops and body

2935
02:19:39,951 --> 02:19:40,461
shops.

2936
02:19:40,461 --> 02:19:42,501
So those are basically the same thing.

2937
02:19:42,501 --> 02:19:44,361
They look very similar.

2938
02:19:44,361 --> 02:19:46,191
One has a much higher impact.

2939
02:19:46,191 --> 02:19:50,991
So that becomes the automobile repair shop major.

2940
02:19:51,411 --> 02:19:54,334
And then everything else falls under minor

2941
02:19:54,334 --> 02:19:57,428
is currently the subdivision of uses always going

2942
02:19:57,428 --> 02:19:59,749
to mean the same thing.

2943
02:19:59,749 --> 02:20:04,671
Like, is it always going to mean ministerial versus legislative?

2944
02:20:04,671 --> 02:20:06,510
No, not always.

2945
02:20:06,510 --> 02:20:08,241
Is the goal for it to always mean the same thing.

2946
02:20:08,241 --> 02:20:10,161
Ministerial versus legislative.

2947
02:20:10,161 --> 02:20:13,851
Some of them are actually differentiations on the use

2948
02:20:13,851 --> 02:20:15,467
performance standards.

2949
02:20:15,467 --> 02:20:20,442
So how many buildings you can have the home

2950
02:20:20,442 --> 02:20:23,421
occupations is a good example of this.

2951
02:20:23,421 --> 02:20:27,891
We have men are home occupation and are just, you know,

2952
02:20:27,891 --> 02:20:30,291
administrative, maybe administratively approved

2953
02:20:31,101 --> 02:20:33,501
with basically a formality.

2954
02:20:33,609 --> 02:20:36,274
It's just a home office for most people.

2955
02:20:36,274 --> 02:20:38,510
But a major home occupation.

2956
02:20:38,510 --> 02:20:41,605
You have an exterior building and we require a site visit.

2957
02:20:41,605 --> 02:20:44,338
So it's really a process as opposed

2958
02:20:44,338 --> 02:20:46,776
to a ministerial versus us.

2959
02:20:46,776 --> 02:20:48,401
But administrative understood.

2960
02:20:48,401 --> 02:20:51,651
I guess I'm just thinking, if we're

2961
02:20:51,651 --> 02:20:55,851
going to have a uniform subdivision type,

2962
02:20:56,198 --> 02:21:00,177
I might intuitively assume like going through

2963
02:21:00,177 --> 02:21:03,328
as a lawyer preparing to outline for something.

2964
02:21:03,328 --> 02:21:04,911
That's the context in which I normally

2965
02:21:04,911 --> 02:21:06,321
read other counties codes.

2966
02:21:06,321 --> 02:21:10,110
Oh, I might assume that those breakdowns are always

2967
02:21:10,110 --> 02:21:14,121
going to mean the same thing I can see why.

2968
02:21:14,121 --> 02:21:17,301
Maybe that's not possible, but oh, that's just a hiccup.

2969
02:21:17,301 --> 02:21:21,291
I see that presenting major here means you bump up

2970
02:21:21,291 --> 02:21:22,521
to legislative review.

2971
02:21:22,521 --> 02:21:25,646
Major here means it's you're still

2972
02:21:25,646 --> 02:21:27,210
saying it administrate of review,

2973
02:21:27,210 --> 02:21:29,100
but you have to have an extra toilet.

2974
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:33,996
You know I. I don't know that I have

2975
02:21:33,996 --> 02:21:37,110
anything I would change on my not in my head today on that.

2976
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:40,731
But that's just a consideration that would pop in my head

2977
02:21:40,731 --> 02:21:42,991
There's the change in language on manufactured home

2978
02:21:42,991 --> 02:21:43,491
communities.

2979
02:21:43,491 --> 02:21:45,449
I'm assuming based on our previous conversation

2980
02:21:45,449 --> 02:21:47,615
about the rural area, this is also something

2981
02:21:47,615 --> 02:21:50,420
that we might have a more fulsome discussion

2982
02:21:50,420 --> 02:21:55,443
because currently, we have no subdivision and one use type

2983
02:21:55,443 --> 02:21:56,426
right?

2984
02:21:56,426 --> 02:22:00,131
That is not the case in all localities.

2985
02:22:00,131 --> 02:22:02,673
Plenty of Virginia localities have multiple subdivisions ends

2986
02:22:02,673 --> 02:22:07,413
of types of use in the same way we have our 1 or 2.

2987
02:22:07,413 --> 02:22:08,631
Appreciate it.

2988
02:22:08,631 --> 02:22:12,621
Well, our one, our two are for etc.

2989
02:22:12,621 --> 02:22:16,851
You might have one and two and three that

2990
02:22:16,851 --> 02:22:19,710
are different kinds of mobile homes of varying

2991
02:22:19,710 --> 02:22:22,671
types of density and the level of infrastructure here,

2992
02:22:22,671 --> 02:22:26,151
we don't have that as far as I know.

2993
02:22:26,151 --> 02:22:28,362
Last I checked home.

2994
02:22:28,362 --> 02:22:30,367
And this doesn't contemplate that change.

2995
02:22:30,367 --> 02:22:32,944
Does that mean that change is not being contemplated

2996
02:22:32,944 --> 02:22:34,376
or does that mean.

2997
02:22:34,376 --> 02:22:38,571
It's not in front of us today So one of the things

2998
02:22:38,571 --> 02:22:41,241
that the General Assembly did adopt

2999
02:22:41,241 --> 02:22:45,141
in July, which I'm sure you're familiar with, essentially just

3000
02:22:45,141 --> 02:22:49,431
treats manufactured homes as a stick built homes everywhere.

3001
02:22:49,431 --> 02:22:53,691
So we aren't changing for the rural area, at least

3002
02:22:53,691 --> 02:23:01,151
how we do the subdivisions the new term in the in the use

3003
02:23:01,151 --> 02:23:05,623
tables is a manufactured home community that does

3004
02:23:05,623 --> 02:23:11,306
have a different essentially a different density than a stick

3005
02:23:11,306 --> 02:23:13,971
built. And that's for rentals.

3006
02:23:13,971 --> 02:23:16,608
So where you're only renting, you know,

3007
02:23:16,608 --> 02:23:20,558
a pad and then you put your own manufactured home on the pad

3008
02:23:20,558 --> 02:23:22,684
and the land is not subdivided.

3009
02:23:22,684 --> 02:23:24,811
So that's really the two different ways

3010
02:23:24,811 --> 02:23:28,710
that either you subdivided it like a normal neighborhood

3011
02:23:28,710 --> 02:23:32,301
or you have the communities where everything is

3012
02:23:32,301 --> 02:23:33,591
a little bit closer together.

3013
02:23:33,591 --> 02:23:36,387
It's intended to be more affordable

3014
02:23:36,387 --> 02:23:38,965
and the land is not actually subdivided.

3015
02:23:38,965 --> 02:23:39,609
Right.

3016
02:23:39,609 --> 02:23:40,898
I, absolutely.

3017
02:23:40,898 --> 02:23:44,761
I want to make sure we that I'm correctly understanding

3018
02:23:44,761 --> 02:23:46,761
the impact of the General Assembly's legislation

3019
02:23:46,761 --> 02:23:50,331
on this having not thought about it deeply.

3020
02:23:50,331 --> 02:23:55,761
But I, I understood it to be an anti subordinate action rather

3021
02:23:55,761 --> 02:23:59,691
than an anti classification kind of rule, something that

3022
02:23:59,691 --> 02:24:03,891
says that we can't non preferentially treat,

3023
02:24:05,993 --> 02:24:10,551
we can't require for more onerous land use restrictions

3024
02:24:10,551 --> 02:24:12,981
that we would not apply to a comparable position

3025
02:24:12,981 --> 02:24:14,619
state built house.

3026
02:24:14,619 --> 02:24:18,715
But I didn't think it prevent us from having permissions

3027
02:24:18,715 --> 02:24:21,991
for it hired entity than we might otherwise

3028
02:24:21,991 --> 02:24:24,440
provide a state built house.

3029
02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:27,910
And I'm just making sure I understand that correctly,

3030
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:30,443
that as far as I understand it, is correct.

3031
02:24:30,443 --> 02:24:31,520
OK.

3032
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:34,911
We don't currently allow a higher density of manufactured

3033
02:24:34,911 --> 02:24:36,111
home in the rural area.

3034
02:24:36,111 --> 02:24:38,871
So this does not this does not bring that up.

3035
02:24:38,871 --> 02:24:41,121
I don't know whether that I don't believe

3036
02:24:41,121 --> 02:24:43,419
that would be something that would fall

3037
02:24:43,419 --> 02:24:45,981
under the recommendations from housing Albemarle,

3038
02:24:45,981 --> 02:24:49,275
although that may just be an interpretation question.

3039
02:24:49,275 --> 02:24:50,739
I, absolutely.

3040
02:24:50,739 --> 02:24:52,410
I think you're right.

3041
02:24:52,410 --> 02:24:55,161
I also think this board has wrung

3042
02:24:55,161 --> 02:24:58,641
its hands on this issue a bit and not to speak for the board,

3043
02:24:58,641 --> 02:25:04,341
but I have expressed an interest in revisiting that question

3044
02:25:04,341 --> 02:25:09,141
because currently from a dollars and cents perspective,

3045
02:25:09,591 --> 02:25:14,310
in part thanks to our friends on the Service Authority,

3046
02:25:14,310 --> 02:25:19,371
it does not seem economically feasible to build them elsewhere

3047
02:25:19,371 --> 02:25:22,761
and and I think if we're not having that conversation,

3048
02:25:22,761 --> 02:25:27,621
then we're not really having a conversation about mobile homes.

3049
02:25:27,621 --> 02:25:31,271
And I realize that was not really what this draft that's

3050
02:25:31,271 --> 02:25:32,271
in front of us is doing.

3051
02:25:32,271 --> 02:25:33,308
But it was there.

3052
02:25:33,308 --> 02:25:34,641
And so I'm asking the questions.

3053
02:25:34,641 --> 02:25:35,271
I apologize.

3054
02:25:35,271 --> 02:25:38,661
I this is my last thing.

3055
02:25:38,661 --> 02:25:39,897
So i apologize.

3056
02:25:39,897 --> 02:25:44,688
Chair Can you explain to me one more time that the gun club.

3057
02:25:44,688 --> 02:25:46,399
It sounds like it.

3058
02:25:46,399 --> 02:25:50,421
Gun clubs were previously an accessory use that was always

3059
02:25:50,421 --> 02:25:54,441
approvable with all other clubs and you're making them separate

3060
02:25:54,441 --> 02:25:57,951
club Is that a fair categorization

3061
02:25:57,951 --> 02:26:03,291
And so the current ordinance does not mention gun clubs

3062
02:26:03,291 --> 02:26:07,491
anywhere except for 5.1.02, which is the supplemental

3063
02:26:08,901 --> 02:26:12,171
regulations and the regulation reads there,

3064
02:26:12,171 --> 02:26:14,901
regardless of any zoning district regulation,

3065
02:26:14,901 --> 02:26:18,141
gun clubs and shooting ranges shall be permitted by special

3066
02:26:18,141 --> 02:26:21,111
use permit only and that is underneath the clubs and lodges,

3067
02:26:21,111 --> 02:26:22,761
supplemental regulations.

3068
02:26:22,761 --> 02:26:26,121
So it's a type of club in Lodge, it's

3069
02:26:26,121 --> 02:26:28,701
not necessarily accessory to a club and larger to type.

3070
02:26:28,701 --> 02:26:31,911
And it's saying that if the type of club that you are trying

3071
02:26:31,911 --> 02:26:35,451
to open is a gun club or a shooting range,

3072
02:26:35,451 --> 02:26:39,441
regardless of what the Use commission says elsewhere,

3073
02:26:39,441 --> 02:26:40,911
it has to be by special use permit.

3074
02:26:40,911 --> 02:26:44,274
I understand which one makes it confusing, what

3075
02:26:44,274 --> 02:26:46,194
one needs to do to create a shooting range

3076
02:26:46,194 --> 02:26:48,924
and to makes it so that all shooting ranges

3077
02:26:48,924 --> 02:26:50,744
have to be social clubs.

3078
02:26:50,744 --> 02:26:53,778
If I'm reading that correctly, that's a consequence.

3079
02:26:53,778 --> 02:26:56,204
I think that the assumption is that they

3080
02:26:56,204 --> 02:26:57,883
are okay so that's helpful.

3081
02:26:57,883 --> 02:26:59,841
I'm also just thinking there are gun clubs that

3082
02:26:59,841 --> 02:27:01,910
don't have physical locations.

3083
02:27:01,910 --> 02:27:02,886
I have a friend who created a gun club that

3084
02:27:02,886 --> 02:27:04,110
doesn't have its own range.

3085
02:27:04,110 --> 02:27:05,703
They go to other ranges.

3086
02:27:05,703 --> 02:27:07,161
What does it mean to be a gun club?

3087
02:27:07,161 --> 02:27:08,301
I think this makes sense.

3088
02:27:08,301 --> 02:27:11,451
Thank you for explaining all I got.

3089
02:27:11,451 --> 02:27:12,511
Supervisor Mitchell.

3090
02:27:12,511 --> 02:27:13,110
Great.

3091
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:13,461
Thanks.

3092
02:27:13,461 --> 02:27:13,961
Thanks.

3093
02:27:13,961 --> 02:27:15,258
I have Appreciate it.

3094
02:27:15,258 --> 02:27:18,385
I've been waiting for the image of all of us.

3095
02:27:18,385 --> 02:27:19,806
I didn't see it.

3096
02:27:19,806 --> 02:27:21,796
So if you're still to come.

3097
02:27:21,796 --> 02:27:23,785
But to answer your questions briefly.

3098
02:27:23,785 --> 02:27:24,354
Yes.

3099
02:27:24,354 --> 02:27:25,207
And yes.

3100
02:27:25,207 --> 02:27:28,401
And i'm encouraged also to hear that this is intended

3101
02:27:28,401 --> 02:27:30,291
to simplify the process.

3102
02:27:30,291 --> 02:27:32,811
One thing to consider, I know you're

3103
02:27:32,811 --> 02:27:36,501
I think you mentioned that yourself there yourself

3104
02:27:36,501 --> 02:27:41,310
extracting where items that are self extracting therefore

3105
02:27:41,310 --> 02:27:45,831
already in Virginia code are being removed Yeah.

3106
02:27:46,494 --> 02:27:51,566
So the self executing sections of the code of Virginia area

3107
02:27:51,566 --> 02:27:54,681
is things like this ordinance This

3108
02:27:54,681 --> 02:28:00,681
is intended to make places better and protects the water

3109
02:28:01,341 --> 02:28:06,711
and provide light and air and all of those lists of things.

3110
02:28:06,711 --> 02:28:10,971
There are many, many lists that are like that in the ordinance.

3111
02:28:10,971 --> 02:28:13,821
We are not copying them into this new ordinance

3112
02:28:13,821 --> 02:28:15,381
unless it's something that we really

3113
02:28:15,381 --> 02:28:16,921
feel like makes a good impact.

3114
02:28:16,921 --> 02:28:17,421
Got it.

3115
02:28:17,421 --> 02:28:20,100
So it's not necessarily process related things.

3116
02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:21,891
It's more sort of background information.

3117
02:28:21,891 --> 02:28:24,471
Yeah we have a lot of the background information.

3118
02:28:24,471 --> 02:28:28,551
If there is a process that the Code of Virginia has,

3119
02:28:28,551 --> 02:28:30,651
then we're not copy into our ordinance.

3120
02:28:30,651 --> 02:28:32,841
So could the the state.

3121
02:28:32,841 --> 02:28:34,521
They might change those regulations.

3122
02:28:34,521 --> 02:28:36,171
And in fact, they did recently.

3123
02:28:36,171 --> 02:28:38,310
Yeah, they changed a review timeline.

3124
02:28:38,310 --> 02:28:41,151
And so now if we weren't doing zoning modernization,

3125
02:28:41,151 --> 02:28:43,791
we would need to go through and change our entire ordinance

3126
02:28:43,791 --> 02:28:46,461
where we have those review timelines written down.

3127
02:28:46,461 --> 02:28:49,551
And so now we just need to do what the state says.

3128
02:28:49,551 --> 02:28:53,236
Yeah, my only $0.02 is if there are areas that you notice,

3129
02:28:53,236 --> 02:28:55,746
when you're looking at it that could potentially

3130
02:28:55,746 --> 02:28:57,942
be helpful for applicants to reference.

3131
02:28:57,942 --> 02:29:00,621
Maybe there's a link to the state code or something

3132
02:29:00,621 --> 02:29:03,510
that to back up because that's an evergreen document.

3133
02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:05,481
You can kind of, you know the link is there,

3134
02:29:05,481 --> 02:29:07,821
maybe the link will expire, but it might also

3135
02:29:07,821 --> 02:29:13,521
track to an update I also had the same similar question

3136
02:29:13,521 --> 02:29:15,441
that Supervisor Pruitt had, which

3137
02:29:15,441 --> 02:29:20,481
was those four recommended use changes felt to me like why not

3138
02:29:20,481 --> 02:29:23,751
put those in into phase three?

3139
02:29:23,751 --> 02:29:25,101
They are they.

3140
02:29:25,101 --> 02:29:27,891
Is it beneficial to get public input for those?

3141
02:29:27,891 --> 02:29:30,356
Is the one thing that felt to me like it

3142
02:29:30,356 --> 02:29:32,675
was a bit of a subjective change that might

3143
02:29:32,675 --> 02:29:33,963
benefit from public input.

3144
02:29:33,963 --> 02:29:36,240
So that's, again, my $0.02.

3145
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:39,854
Is it helpful to leave those the way they are and pull them out?

3146
02:29:39,854 --> 02:29:42,452
We addressed them in phase three because I think a lot

3147
02:29:42,452 --> 02:29:44,869
of our discussion was sort of around similar conversations

3148
02:29:44,869 --> 02:29:48,128
that we'll be having in phase three or is it is it better

3149
02:29:48,128 --> 02:29:50,528
to put them here ?

3150
02:29:51,909 --> 02:29:55,920
Yeah, I think these were really highlighted and selected

3151
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:57,638
because we don't get applications for these.

3152
02:29:57,638 --> 02:30:01,110
So I got arguably the public doesn't care about them.

3153
02:30:01,110 --> 02:30:02,324
That's obviously not true.

3154
02:30:02,324 --> 02:30:03,741
The public cares about everything,

3155
02:30:03,741 --> 02:30:08,211
but we have not received any applications for these

3156
02:30:08,211 --> 02:30:14,211
and they are things that are very, very in line

3157
02:30:15,210 --> 02:30:18,801
with the comprehend to plan and also we

3158
02:30:18,801 --> 02:30:21,891
are trying to shorten the lists of all the uses.

3159
02:30:21,891 --> 02:30:24,141
So these are things that just, you know, unnecessarily

3160
02:30:24,141 --> 02:30:24,861
pad the list.

3161
02:30:24,861 --> 02:30:26,871
They're only in 1 or 2 districts.

3162
02:30:26,871 --> 02:30:32,230
So it's not really something that is contributing anything

3163
02:30:32,230 --> 02:30:34,630
to the new ordinance.

3164
02:30:35,170 --> 02:30:37,417
I totally get it.

3165
02:30:37,803 --> 02:30:40,742
I think for me, just that the fact

3166
02:30:40,742 --> 02:30:44,170
that they had there hasn't been an application for 25 years

3167
02:30:44,170 --> 02:30:48,559
to me doesn't remove it from consideration Who knows, Right?

3168
02:30:48,559 --> 02:30:51,481
Somebody might come along tomorrow with an application.

3169
02:30:51,481 --> 02:30:52,780
Just a thought.

3170
02:30:52,780 --> 02:30:55,378
And then a clarification and I'm done.

3171
02:30:55,378 --> 02:30:59,490
No, I think I'm saying this you can correct me

3172
02:30:59,490 --> 02:31:02,433
if I'm not saying the right thing,

3173
02:31:02,433 --> 02:31:06,853
that none of what we were looking at today is and does

3174
02:31:06,853 --> 02:31:08,901
doesn't expand or restrict existing permissions

3175
02:31:08,901 --> 02:31:10,266
within the ordinance.

3176
02:31:10,266 --> 02:31:10,948
Correct.

3177
02:31:10,948 --> 02:31:14,200
Except for these four things on the screen.

3178
02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:14,945
Right now.

3179
02:31:14,945 --> 02:31:15,529
Yeah.

3180
02:31:15,529 --> 02:31:16,113
OK.

3181
02:31:16,113 --> 02:31:16,990
Thank you.

3182
02:31:16,990 --> 02:31:19,911
That was also why I called out those four.

3183
02:31:19,911 --> 02:31:20,787
Thank you.

3184
02:31:20,787 --> 02:31:21,663
All right.

3185
02:31:21,663 --> 02:31:24,000
I'm a yes on your initial questions.

3186
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:26,463
We're a little past time for this item.

3187
02:31:26,463 --> 02:31:29,470
I just I can offer my comments at a different point.

3188
02:31:29,470 --> 02:31:31,976
Do you have what you need from the board.

3189
02:31:31,976 --> 02:31:33,229
And what you've heard?

3190
02:31:33,229 --> 02:31:35,661
Any clarifications needed I think

3191
02:31:35,661 --> 02:31:39,261
before we come to public hearing,

3192
02:31:40,821 --> 02:31:45,831
I think we would just want kind of like a general round

3193
02:31:45,831 --> 02:31:47,400
Robin feeling on.

3194
02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:49,155
Should we put these uses back?

3195
02:31:49,155 --> 02:31:52,178
Because we've had two members of the board say,

3196
02:31:52,178 --> 02:31:55,785
yes, they should be put back until we talk about

3197
02:31:55,785 --> 02:31:57,938
them more in more engagement.

3198
02:31:57,938 --> 02:32:02,243
So this was kind of getting to the second question, which

3199
02:32:02,243 --> 02:32:07,371
was the types of changes expected for this phase.

3200
02:32:07,371 --> 02:32:11,511
So is, is this in expectations for this phase or do we need

3201
02:32:11,511 --> 02:32:14,511
to pull back on this ?

3202
02:32:14,721 --> 02:32:16,341
All right.

3203
02:32:16,341 --> 02:32:17,901
Did you have additional comment?

3204
02:32:17,901 --> 02:32:19,581
I'm not sure I was in the pull back

3205
02:32:19,581 --> 02:32:25,581
until public discussion on certainly the of the theater one

3206
02:32:25,738 --> 02:32:32,938
because I would love it if four county players could have things

3207
02:32:33,810 --> 02:32:36,171
here rather than just up in Orange County at the ruins.

3208
02:32:36,171 --> 02:32:41,910
So the I would agree that while the original one out on

3209
02:32:41,910 --> 02:32:44,231
and beaver Dam out there on 250 was people

3210
02:32:44,231 --> 02:32:45,631
were concerned about traffic.

3211
02:32:45,631 --> 02:32:47,591
But it was a totally different time

3212
02:32:47,591 --> 02:32:50,111
and the roads and everything were very different.

3213
02:32:50,111 --> 02:32:51,377
And i would expect.

3214
02:32:51,377 --> 02:32:55,750
I mean, I would dearly love to be able to have a workshop type

3215
02:32:55,750 --> 02:32:55,814
place here.

3216
02:32:55,814 --> 02:32:59,266
Maybe not with 10,000 people at a time, but a couple thousand.

3217
02:32:59,266 --> 02:33:00,498
We could certainly handle.

3218
02:33:00,498 --> 02:33:03,645
So I hope that there'll be more discussion about that

3219
02:33:03,645 --> 02:33:04,794
going forward.

3220
02:33:04,794 --> 02:33:11,308
And so I'm my yes is a yes with that caveat in there

3221
02:33:11,308 --> 02:33:14,904
So it sounds like a I don't hear strong feelings to keep them

3222
02:33:14,904 --> 02:33:18,224
out, but sounds like put the back is the okay.

3223
02:33:18,224 --> 02:33:20,161
Yeah, I would also agree.

3224
02:33:20,161 --> 02:33:24,943
And I thought supervisor Pruitt made a lot of good points

3225
02:33:24,943 --> 02:33:25,728
earlier.

3226
02:33:25,728 --> 02:33:29,263
I think that as we save for later.

3227
02:33:29,263 --> 02:33:33,638
So does that clear it offers a less clear

3228
02:33:33,638 --> 02:33:39,501
and I will I will note for country players, unfortunately

3229
02:33:39,501 --> 02:33:42,981
would not be able to operate under outdoor drama theater

3230
02:33:42,981 --> 02:33:46,410
unless they're re-enacting a battle that

3231
02:33:46,410 --> 02:33:47,481
happened in our county.

3232
02:33:47,481 --> 02:33:49,161
So what I neglected to say was we need

3233
02:33:49,161 --> 02:33:50,661
to change that description.

3234
02:33:50,661 --> 02:33:54,861
Yes, in the public process so that it can do things better.

3235
02:33:54,861 --> 02:33:55,461
Yeah.

3236
02:33:55,461 --> 02:33:56,610
Yeah.

3237
02:33:56,610 --> 02:33:59,286
Unless you interpret Shakespeare in the realm of an album

3238
02:33:59,286 --> 02:34:01,536
or county battle, absolutely.

3239
02:34:01,536 --> 02:34:06,360
I think what staff has suggested to remove on the four things

3240
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:09,321
on the previous slide actually do all makes sense.

3241
02:34:09,321 --> 02:34:11,301
If we understand we're revisiting

3242
02:34:11,301 --> 02:34:12,801
in a more substantive way.

3243
02:34:12,801 --> 02:34:13,731
Yeah.

3244
02:34:13,731 --> 02:34:17,571
The yes it is particularly the first two,

3245
02:34:17,571 --> 02:34:18,891
which I feel pretty strongly.

3246
02:34:18,891 --> 02:34:21,621
It sounds like other people feel strongly about the first two,

3247
02:34:21,621 --> 02:34:26,331
but I think as an intermediary non substantive step type,

3248
02:34:26,331 --> 02:34:31,251
I don't want to make you keep dust on your work table

3249
02:34:31,251 --> 02:34:34,221
while you're going into stage three, right?

3250
02:34:34,221 --> 02:34:35,984
I don't know.

3251
02:34:35,984 --> 02:34:38,151
That's it sounds like I would imagine that no matter

3252
02:34:38,151 --> 02:34:40,716
what we do, if a theater wanted to set up shop,

3253
02:34:40,716 --> 02:34:43,341
it would figure out a way to get to us to be able to approve it

3254
02:34:43,341 --> 02:34:44,631
wherever they were.

3255
02:34:44,631 --> 02:34:49,521
But that is a i'd I'd love to have to see how

3256
02:34:49,521 --> 02:34:50,841
that conversation plays out.

3257
02:34:50,841 --> 02:34:52,888
No, knowing a little bit about it,

3258
02:34:52,888 --> 02:34:55,551
what it would mean in the rural area.

3259
02:34:55,551 --> 02:34:58,221
But it is a clear what we've I don't

3260
02:34:58,221 --> 02:35:00,531
know that I'm clear on what we are saying to do,

3261
02:35:00,531 --> 02:35:03,201
but the it sounds like the for the theater

3262
02:35:03,201 --> 02:35:06,725
use and the crematoriums, we're going to leave that.

3263
02:35:06,725 --> 02:35:08,455
And it can address it later.

3264
02:35:08,455 --> 02:35:09,937
We can maybe discuss it.

3265
02:35:09,937 --> 02:35:11,914
But that's the piece that we're saying.

3266
02:35:11,914 --> 02:35:12,656
Keep it.

3267
02:35:12,656 --> 02:35:15,801
So when you say leave it, leave it in the ordinance

3268
02:35:15,801 --> 02:35:18,531
and then we will take it out in phase three

3269
02:35:18,531 --> 02:35:23,310
or change it or expand it or do additional research, which

3270
02:35:23,310 --> 02:35:27,681
is to have a further discussion and some

3271
02:35:27,681 --> 02:35:32,391
there currently, two small legacy uses that are narrow,

3272
02:35:32,391 --> 02:35:33,323
that are permissible.

3273
02:35:33,323 --> 02:35:36,801
I think we want to keep the permissible narrow underutilized

3274
02:35:36,801 --> 02:35:41,181
things in place and potentially have a discussion on expanding

3275
02:35:41,181 --> 02:35:44,301
them rather than remove them in the interim

3276
02:35:44,301 --> 02:35:46,431
to have a later discussion on expanding them.

3277
02:35:46,431 --> 02:35:48,431
Well, that's okay.

3278
02:35:48,631 --> 02:35:49,131
Great.

3279
02:35:49,131 --> 02:35:50,761
Sorry to step on your brother.

3280
02:35:50,761 --> 02:35:51,261
No.

3281
02:35:51,261 --> 02:35:51,561
Know.

3282
02:35:51,561 --> 02:35:52,251
That was good.

3283
02:35:52,251 --> 02:35:53,781
Glad you stay with it.

3284
02:35:53,781 --> 02:35:55,715
Any other things?

3285
02:35:55,715 --> 02:35:56,637
All right.

3286
02:35:56,637 --> 02:35:59,709
We were slated to go to recess at 3:30,

3287
02:35:59,709 --> 02:36:02,166
so let's we're running a little behind,

3288
02:36:02,166 --> 02:36:05,956
but let's just do a ten minute and we'll come back at 350.

3289
02:36:05,956 --> 02:36:08,331
Did you have everything you needed before we moved to do?

3290
02:36:08,331 --> 02:36:13,131
We need to take make sure that we

3291
02:36:15,510 --> 02:36:17,399
know where our next steps are.

3292
02:36:17,399 --> 02:36:21,810
We really just quickly run through that.

3293
02:36:21,810 --> 02:36:23,631
We are drafting currently article

3294
02:36:23,631 --> 02:36:26,991
seven and eight, which is used performance standards

3295
02:36:26,991 --> 02:36:29,331
and community design standards.

3296
02:36:29,331 --> 02:36:35,931
And then we will be working with the building, the topic based

3297
02:36:35,931 --> 02:36:37,761
discussion groups for phase three.

3298
02:36:37,761 --> 02:36:39,891
So that's kind of like happening in the background

3299
02:36:39,891 --> 02:36:44,751
right now And then we are going to be coming back

3300
02:36:44,751 --> 02:36:48,981
for our public hearings in December and in January.

3301
02:36:48,981 --> 02:36:53,931
So just letting everybody know where that is Thank you.

3302
02:36:53,931 --> 02:36:55,641
All right.

3303
02:36:55,641 --> 02:36:57,381
We are recess.

3304
02:36:57,381 --> 02:37:03,381
Well, something here And to be able to host it.

3305
02:47:51,651 --> 02:47:55,341
All right, everyone, we are back from our recess

3306
02:47:55,341 --> 02:47:58,881
and we are ready to move to item number

3307
02:47:58,881 --> 02:48:02,301
11 strategic plan execution analysis and reporting

3308
02:48:02,301 --> 02:48:06,990
or the spirit Report for fiscal year 26.

3309
02:48:06,990 --> 02:48:11,372
And Mr. Flint's with us in the lead us through this item.

3310
02:48:11,372 --> 02:48:12,588
And afternoon.

3311
02:48:12,588 --> 02:48:13,400
OK.

3312
02:48:13,400 --> 02:48:16,730
So you received our Speer report and today we're

3313
02:48:16,730 --> 02:48:18,859
just going to walk through that information

3314
02:48:18,859 --> 02:48:22,204
and just highlight, obviously, there's a lot of metrics

3315
02:48:22,204 --> 02:48:25,679
and a lot of great work in it today.

3316
02:48:25,679 --> 02:48:29,213
This is going to be a highlight of those things.

3317
02:48:29,213 --> 02:48:33,680
And it is also provided online for our community as well.

3318
02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:36,741
And so this is going to be a two part presentation in a I'm

3319
02:48:36,741 --> 02:48:40,524
also going to introduce one of my staff, Gabe, Jacqueline.

3320
02:48:40,524 --> 02:48:43,731
He is going to go through the report as well.

3321
02:48:43,731 --> 02:48:48,621
He plays a key role on our team and managing all of the metrics

3322
02:48:48,621 --> 02:48:50,781
and data work with our departments

3323
02:48:50,781 --> 02:48:53,721
and want to also acknowledge all of the department leadership

3324
02:48:53,721 --> 02:48:55,281
that's here today.

3325
02:48:55,281 --> 02:48:58,431
There are my backup plan in case you ask a really hard question

3326
02:48:58,431 --> 02:49:00,411
that we don't have the answer to.

3327
02:49:00,411 --> 02:49:03,801
But now that all joking aside when I acknowledge them,

3328
02:49:03,801 --> 02:49:05,761
this has been a journey that Albemarle

3329
02:49:05,761 --> 02:49:08,100
has been on for several years, we

3330
02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:11,864
keep getting better and better and refining it as we go,

3331
02:49:11,864 --> 02:49:16,231
but we could not do it without their dedication and their staff

3332
02:49:16,231 --> 02:49:17,686
managing the work.

3333
02:49:17,686 --> 02:49:19,505
And measuring that work.

3334
02:49:19,505 --> 02:49:22,461
So as I said you know, this is a program,

3335
02:49:22,461 --> 02:49:25,558
it is more than just data.

3336
02:49:25,558 --> 02:49:27,141
We're going to walk through the report

3337
02:49:27,141 --> 02:49:28,516
and then we're going to also talk

3338
02:49:28,516 --> 02:49:32,116
about what's next So the program,

3339
02:49:33,471 --> 02:49:35,181
you know, you've seen this slide before,

3340
02:49:35,181 --> 02:49:36,621
but it's important for the public

3341
02:49:36,621 --> 02:49:41,612
to understand why we do this work and why we in Albemarle

3342
02:49:41,612 --> 02:49:44,654
believe that the measurement is so important.

3343
02:49:44,654 --> 02:49:48,457
And so we talk about where are we succeeding,

3344
02:49:48,457 --> 02:49:53,721
where should we pause or stop or where are we not making headway?

3345
02:49:53,721 --> 02:49:58,221
Is it about our staff, our structure, our systems, lack

3346
02:49:58,221 --> 02:50:01,761
of resources and where we in trouble?

3347
02:50:01,761 --> 02:50:05,421
What what areas do we need to refocus or redeploy

3348
02:50:05,421 --> 02:50:07,731
something or re-imagine here?

3349
02:50:07,731 --> 02:50:09,621
And so that data is really something

3350
02:50:09,621 --> 02:50:11,511
that helps our decision making.

3351
02:50:11,511 --> 02:50:14,721
So we want to continue you to have accountability

3352
02:50:14,721 --> 02:50:19,817
with our staff, our processes, our partnerships We also want

3353
02:50:19,817 --> 02:50:21,522
to have that decision making.

3354
02:50:21,522 --> 02:50:24,931
But we want to be transparent to our community about the work

3355
02:50:24,931 --> 02:50:27,489
that we're doing, how hard we're working.

3356
02:50:27,489 --> 02:50:32,181
And in some areas where we may not be meeting expectations.

3357
02:50:32,181 --> 02:50:34,821
And then again, there's community outcomes.

3358
02:50:34,821 --> 02:50:37,551
This information is not to be stagnant,

3359
02:50:37,551 --> 02:50:43,161
but to be used to make change and to continue to improve.

3360
02:50:43,161 --> 02:50:47,181
So as you'll see, this spear, our strategic plan

3361
02:50:47,181 --> 02:50:49,761
and officer sphere is just one component

3362
02:50:49,761 --> 02:50:51,801
of a much larger picture.

3363
02:50:51,801 --> 02:50:56,961
You are just discuss 8044 this morning or this afternoon.

3364
02:50:56,961 --> 02:50:59,571
There is an amazing award that the team received

3365
02:50:59,571 --> 02:51:02,841
and great work from Community Development and others,

3366
02:51:02,841 --> 02:51:06,709
but that is that 20 year long range view

3367
02:51:06,709 --> 02:51:09,332
But when you look at your strategies,

3368
02:51:09,332 --> 02:51:11,628
you need to break that down.

3369
02:51:11,628 --> 02:51:14,579
And so we're looking at those strategic plans.

3370
02:51:14,579 --> 02:51:17,730
And then with that how are we performing?

3371
02:51:17,730 --> 02:51:19,876
How we're performing on that progress,

3372
02:51:19,876 --> 02:51:21,716
then informs our annual budget.

3373
02:51:21,716 --> 02:51:24,168
And so we work together to make sure

3374
02:51:24,168 --> 02:51:28,368
that these things stay connected and consistent.

3375
02:51:28,971 --> 02:51:31,491
So with that, I'm going to bring Gabe

3376
02:51:31,491 --> 02:51:35,421
and he can introduce himself and his role

3377
02:51:35,421 --> 02:51:40,497
and I'm going to help him guide through this report.

3378
02:51:40,497 --> 02:51:41,881
Good afternoon.

3379
02:51:41,881 --> 02:51:44,649
Board Gabriel Giacalone Performance measurement Program

3380
02:51:44,649 --> 02:51:47,871
Manager I'll be walking us through part two

3381
02:51:47,871 --> 02:51:50,241
of this presentation where we will cover

3382
02:51:50,241 --> 02:51:52,941
each strategic plan, goal sharing, key metrics

3383
02:51:52,941 --> 02:51:55,101
and several stories of success from our fly

3384
02:51:55,101 --> 02:51:59,901
26 Starting off with Goal one Safety and Wellbeing.

3385
02:52:00,771 --> 02:52:02,781
We have a number of metrics on this

3386
02:52:02,781 --> 02:52:08,100
and the next slide keeps an app's metrics are both

3387
02:52:08,100 --> 02:52:10,100
looking very good.

3388
02:52:10,281 --> 02:52:13,191
Fire Rescue is looking great for rural areas

3389
02:52:13,191 --> 02:52:15,499
and wildfire rescue's Development Area response

3390
02:52:15,499 --> 02:52:18,434
isn't quite where we want it yet.

3391
02:52:18,434 --> 02:52:22,346
This 81% is a significant increase from last year 72%.

3392
02:52:22,346 --> 02:52:26,579
And this is a direct result from investments made in the F2 y 25

3393
02:52:26,579 --> 02:52:27,183
budget.

3394
02:52:27,183 --> 02:52:30,812
And it's a great success story to get to share today.

3395
02:52:30,812 --> 02:52:37,551
And I'll speak a little bit more about it in a few slides.

3396
02:52:37,551 --> 02:52:39,801
Police response time metrics are similar to what

3397
02:52:39,801 --> 02:52:42,411
we saw last fiscal year as investments

3398
02:52:42,411 --> 02:52:44,907
that we made with the f y 26 budget

3399
02:52:44,907 --> 02:52:46,959
have not yet come into play.

3400
02:52:46,959 --> 02:52:49,598
And it should also be noted that we continue

3401
02:52:49,598 --> 02:52:53,819
to see an increase in the number of calls for service over time.

3402
02:52:53,819 --> 02:52:55,367
And year over year.

3403
02:52:55,367 --> 02:52:57,844
So that is always at play here.

3404
02:52:57,844 --> 02:53:00,632
With that said, as of very recently,

3405
02:53:00,632 --> 02:53:04,955
we have seen early signs of a positive shift in these success

3406
02:53:04,955 --> 02:53:09,290
rates due to f y 26 investments and some amazing data

3407
02:53:09,290 --> 02:53:11,811
center strategic deployment by police

3408
02:53:11,811 --> 02:53:14,151
If we continue to see these trends,

3409
02:53:14,151 --> 02:53:16,521
those improvements may be reflected in next year's fire

3410
02:53:16,521 --> 02:53:18,201
report.

3411
02:53:18,201 --> 02:53:20,121
But we are keeping a close eye here

3412
02:53:20,121 --> 02:53:22,491
as we continue to prioritize this and carry out

3413
02:53:22,491 --> 02:53:26,910
the recommendations of the recent public safety staffing

3414
02:53:26,910 --> 02:53:30,891
studies and now some great stories of success.

3415
02:53:33,149 --> 02:53:37,410
F f y 26 With safety and well-being.

3416
02:53:37,410 --> 02:53:39,351
First year we have a story about our morals Heart

3417
02:53:39,351 --> 02:53:42,514
team at the forefront of research and facilitation,

3418
02:53:42,514 --> 02:53:44,674
where they presented at an international conference

3419
02:53:44,674 --> 02:53:47,451
and were recognized as leaders in their field.

3420
02:53:47,451 --> 02:53:50,751
And gave two presentations on their work

3421
02:53:50,751 --> 02:53:55,521
Our next story in December 2025 County leadership gathered

3422
02:53:55,521 --> 02:53:58,191
for a continue City planning event where

3423
02:53:58,191 --> 02:54:00,921
we ran through several crisis scenarios and a tabletop

3424
02:54:00,921 --> 02:54:02,271
exercise.

3425
02:54:02,271 --> 02:54:05,151
And these activities allowed our executive team and department

3426
02:54:05,151 --> 02:54:08,910
leadership teams to role play how their departments would

3427
02:54:08,910 --> 02:54:11,181
collaborate in the event of a crisis

3428
02:54:11,181 --> 02:54:15,141
And then lastly, as I mentioned before, in f y 26,

3429
02:54:15,141 --> 02:54:17,481
we saw the real impact of county investments

3430
02:54:17,481 --> 02:54:20,181
with the additional response resources that

3431
02:54:20,181 --> 02:54:22,951
were allocated to Seminole Trail and North Garden districts back

3432
02:54:22,951 --> 02:54:23,451
then.

3433
02:54:23,451 --> 02:54:26,721
F y 25 These resources were first

3434
02:54:26,721 --> 02:54:30,921
deployed in January 2026 and immediately improved response

3435
02:54:30,981 --> 02:54:34,581
time and reliability in those districts.

3436
02:54:37,411 --> 02:54:37,911
All right.

3437
02:54:37,911 --> 02:54:41,871
Go to metrics and go to Brazilian equitable

3438
02:54:41,871 --> 02:54:43,420
and engaged community.

3439
02:54:43,420 --> 02:54:46,941
We have three key metrics for f y 26.

3440
02:54:46,941 --> 02:54:50,721
The first is our expected reduction in GHG emissions

3441
02:54:50,721 --> 02:54:53,421
from f, y 26 climate projects.

3442
02:54:53,421 --> 02:54:56,821
We did a great job here in reaching 95% of our goal

3443
02:54:56,821 --> 02:54:58,821
and our climate team is very proud of their work

3444
02:54:58,821 --> 02:55:02,961
here on a number of projects that made this happen.

3445
02:55:02,961 --> 02:55:05,901
Our second metric here is what we

3446
02:55:05,901 --> 02:55:08,866
wanted to meet 100% of the pollution reduction

3447
02:55:08,866 --> 02:55:12,366
requirements mandated by the Chesapeake Bay team D L

3448
02:55:12,366 --> 02:55:13,144
standards.

3449
02:55:13,144 --> 02:55:15,478
And these standards are generally concerned

3450
02:55:15,478 --> 02:55:18,201
with the amount of pollution that localities

3451
02:55:18,201 --> 02:55:21,771
are sending to the Chesapeake Bay through their waterways

3452
02:55:21,771 --> 02:55:24,531
and thanks to many efforts largely including the biscuit

3453
02:55:24,531 --> 02:55:26,511
run stream restoration, we reached

3454
02:55:26,511 --> 02:55:27,951
100% of these requirements.

3455
02:55:27,951 --> 02:55:30,201
And that's why Texans are fantastic story

3456
02:55:30,201 --> 02:55:32,661
to bring to you today.

3457
02:55:32,661 --> 02:55:34,941
And lastly, on the engagement front,

3458
02:55:34,941 --> 02:55:37,341
we held 18 get engaged in local government

3459
02:55:37,341 --> 02:55:40,791
pop up events and exceeded our target for unique interactions,

3460
02:55:40,791 --> 02:55:44,391
reaching over 3800 people at those events

3461
02:55:47,691 --> 02:55:51,261
and some stories out of goal to starting with the climate

3462
02:55:51,261 --> 02:55:52,351
summit.

3463
02:55:52,351 --> 02:55:55,281
The climate summit in October 2025

3464
02:55:55,281 --> 02:55:57,550
brought Albemarle County High School students

3465
02:55:57,550 --> 02:56:00,466
together with county staff and community organizations

3466
02:56:00,466 --> 02:56:02,965
to explore local climate challenges.

3467
02:56:02,965 --> 02:56:05,881
Equity and solutions while building climate literacy

3468
02:56:05,881 --> 02:56:09,481
and civic engagement are the biscuit

3469
02:56:09,501 --> 02:56:11,601
run stream restoration, which I mentioned earlier,

3470
02:56:11,601 --> 02:56:13,471
was a huge success.

3471
02:56:13,471 --> 02:56:15,471
Albemarle County and the city of Charlottesville

3472
02:56:15,471 --> 02:56:18,471
completed substantial construction on a project

3473
02:56:18,471 --> 02:56:22,491
to restore approximately one mile of the biscuit run stream.

3474
02:56:22,491 --> 02:56:25,971
They addressed erosion, sedimentation and habitat loss

3475
02:56:25,971 --> 02:56:28,731
while supporting those Chesapeake Bay TMD standards

3476
02:56:28,731 --> 02:56:32,181
that I referenced before the project included planting

3477
02:56:32,181 --> 02:56:35,781
approximately 9800 native plants and installing 47 structures

3478
02:56:36,561 --> 02:56:38,991
structures designed to mimic beaver dams

3479
02:56:38,991 --> 02:56:41,391
and improve stream health.

3480
02:56:41,721 --> 02:56:44,361
And then lastly, we have the invasive Species Management

3481
02:56:44,361 --> 02:56:48,591
Program where we expanded our efforts to protect natural areas

3482
02:56:48,591 --> 02:56:51,261
from invasive species, improving habitat, health

3483
02:56:51,261 --> 02:56:55,371
and biodiversity, and long term ecosystem resilience

3484
02:56:55,371 --> 02:56:56,901
with additional staffing and f y.

3485
02:56:56,901 --> 02:57:00,741
26 Active management on county parkland for invasive invasive

3486
02:57:00,741 --> 02:57:04,341
species grew from 95 acres to 128 acres.

3487
02:57:08,631 --> 02:57:12,171
Now for a goal, three infrastructure and placemaking.

3488
02:57:12,171 --> 02:57:15,210
Our first metric is focused on our digital infrastructure

3489
02:57:15,210 --> 02:57:16,881
and our efforts to improve accessibility

3490
02:57:16,881 --> 02:57:19,761
through ADA compliance on our public website

3491
02:57:19,761 --> 02:57:22,581
and I'm proud to say that we reached 84% compliance

3492
02:57:22,581 --> 02:57:27,441
by the end of f y 26, and we continue to improve on that.

3493
02:57:27,441 --> 02:57:29,151
The second and third metrics are focused

3494
02:57:29,151 --> 02:57:31,491
on our physical infrastructure and connection

3495
02:57:31,491 --> 02:57:34,710
through sidewalks and rides on microcap

3496
02:57:34,710 --> 02:57:35,751
and we exceeded each of our goals

3497
02:57:35,751 --> 02:57:37,551
here, which is another great success

3498
02:57:37,551 --> 02:57:43,551
story to report our stories and goal three We start

3499
02:57:44,601 --> 02:57:48,801
with some really great transportation projects, stories

3500
02:57:49,191 --> 02:57:52,551
through the revenue sharing and smart scale programs,

3501
02:57:52,551 --> 02:57:55,281
Albemarle County completed several major transportation

3502
02:57:55,281 --> 02:57:59,421
improvements and f y 26 and we have upgrades and crochet.

3503
02:57:59,421 --> 02:58:02,121
We have a new bicycle and pedestrian bridge over us.

3504
02:58:02,121 --> 02:58:06,858
The 29 and we have new roundabouts at Route two for us

3505
02:58:06,858 --> 02:58:10,170
to 50 and Hillsdale driving Greenbrier drive together

3506
02:58:10,170 --> 02:58:12,926
these projects improve safety connectivity traffic flow

3507
02:58:12,926 --> 02:58:14,718
and access for residents across the county.

3508
02:58:14,718 --> 02:58:16,483
And I use those roundabouts a lot.

3509
02:58:16,483 --> 02:58:20,961
And I can testify to the fact that they speed things up

3510
02:58:20,961 --> 02:58:22,650
a second.

3511
02:58:22,650 --> 02:58:25,551
We have the Monarch and Nation Tribute Park.

3512
02:58:25,551 --> 02:58:28,341
This park was created through a partnership among Aramark

3513
02:58:28,341 --> 02:58:32,100
county, Habitat for Humanity, the monarch and Indian nation

3514
02:58:32,100 --> 02:58:34,941
and community partners to honor the Munchkins enduring

3515
02:58:34,941 --> 02:58:39,141
connection to the land dedicated in September 2025,

3516
02:58:39,351 --> 02:58:41,745
the Park features native plantings

3517
02:58:41,745 --> 02:58:43,872
interpretive elements and spaces for reflection

3518
02:58:43,872 --> 02:58:47,620
that celebrate monarch and history of resilience and living

3519
02:58:47,620 --> 02:58:47,771
presence.

3520
02:58:47,771 --> 02:58:51,411
And then lastly, here we have our partnership with John

3521
02:58:51,411 --> 02:58:55,311
to improve multimodal connectivity in f y 26

3522
02:58:55,311 --> 02:58:57,921
John's Connect Services is for 29

3523
02:58:57,921 --> 02:59:01,410
North and crews areas saw ridership increases

3524
02:59:01,410 --> 02:59:03,410
of 4.8% and 22.6% respectively.

3525
02:59:05,571 --> 02:59:07,971
Collectively represent over 50,000 riders.

3526
02:59:08,961 --> 02:59:13,761
Joint demand response saw a modest 2.1% increase over 28,500

3527
02:59:14,151 --> 02:59:18,231
riders and local funding of 3.5 million was leveraged,

3528
02:59:18,231 --> 02:59:22,410
with 4.9 million federal and state dollars to provide these

3529
02:59:22,410 --> 02:59:24,410
services.

3530
02:59:25,371 --> 02:59:26,301
All right, Go forward.

3531
02:59:26,301 --> 02:59:27,291
Quality of life.

3532
02:59:27,291 --> 02:59:31,491
We start with two brilliant, tactful metrics

3533
02:59:31,671 --> 02:59:34,131
Our first metric here is the present percent

3534
02:59:34,131 --> 02:59:38,331
of assessed real estate value from commercial sources.

3535
02:59:38,331 --> 02:59:41,631
A longer term goal here to achieve is 15%.

3536
02:59:41,631 --> 02:59:45,201
And I know that's been said here a lot in for y 26.

3537
02:59:45,201 --> 02:59:48,351
We were trying to stay as close to 11.3 as possible.

3538
02:59:48,351 --> 02:59:51,591
All the percent did drop here a bit.

3539
02:59:51,591 --> 02:59:54,621
But given the incredible work of Ido and many big wins

3540
02:59:54,621 --> 02:59:56,421
they supported in the past year, which

3541
02:59:56,421 --> 02:59:58,611
we will talk about in the next slide we are still

3542
02:59:58,611 --> 03:00:01,581
optimistic that this value will meet our longer term.

3543
03:00:01,581 --> 03:00:05,181
15% goal, especially when Astra's undergoes operational.

3544
03:00:06,801 --> 03:00:08,751
The next metric we have here is supporting

3545
03:00:08,751 --> 03:00:11,384
the creation of affordable housing units

3546
03:00:11,384 --> 03:00:16,251
and we have reached 2576 units as of the end of f

3547
03:00:16,251 --> 03:00:19,851
y 26 with an additional 2863 potential units

3548
03:00:21,108 --> 03:00:22,191
currently in the pipeline.

3549
03:00:22,191 --> 03:00:24,621
I'm given these units in the pipeline

3550
03:00:24,621 --> 03:00:26,721
and the recent investments in affordable housing.

3551
03:00:26,721 --> 03:00:29,271
We're optimistic that we will remain on a productive path

3552
03:00:29,271 --> 03:00:33,951
in reaching our goal of 10,070 units created between 2019

3553
03:00:33,951 --> 03:00:39,351
and 2040 And we have some amazing stories and milestones

3554
03:00:40,371 --> 03:00:44,610
in our goal for this year, starting with AstraZeneca is

3555
03:00:44,610 --> 03:00:48,210
a record breaking investment that in a futures AstraZeneca is

3556
03:00:48,210 --> 03:00:51,381
4.5 billion investment at remain a futures is a landmark

3557
03:00:51,381 --> 03:00:54,441
accomplishment in economic development for this county

3558
03:00:54,441 --> 03:00:57,351
and it reinforces the region's growing reputation as a life

3559
03:00:57,351 --> 03:01:00,157
sciences and advanced manufac turing hub.

3560
03:01:00,157 --> 03:01:03,681
The project is expected to create roughly 600 high quality

3561
03:01:03,681 --> 03:01:07,828
jobs and strengthen the local biotech supply chain

3562
03:01:07,828 --> 03:01:10,371
and next we have the expansion of pickleball courts

3563
03:01:10,371 --> 03:01:12,231
at Darden Cow Park.

3564
03:01:12,231 --> 03:01:15,111
Darden Cow Park now has 12 dedicated public

3565
03:01:15,111 --> 03:01:18,441
pickleball courts following a successful community engagement

3566
03:01:18,441 --> 03:01:21,111
partnership effort led by Albemarle County

3567
03:01:21,111 --> 03:01:24,501
Parks and Recreation in the Albemarle County Parks

3568
03:01:24,501 --> 03:01:28,658
Foundation, Central Virginia Pickleball and local supporters

3569
03:01:28,658 --> 03:01:32,858
and the Court's officially opened on June 20, 2026.

3570
03:01:33,699 --> 03:01:37,711
We have lastly here the agro spheres ribbon cutting.

3571
03:01:37,711 --> 03:01:39,921
Agassi visits a University of Virginia

3572
03:01:39,921 --> 03:01:42,621
startup celebrated the opening of its first commercial

3573
03:01:42,621 --> 03:01:46,821
Biomanufacturing facility in Monroe county in April 2026,

3574
03:01:46,911 --> 03:01:48,831
marking a major milestone for the region's

3575
03:01:48,831 --> 03:01:50,831
agricultural biotechnology sector.

3576
03:01:51,681 --> 03:01:53,241
And the company's success highlights

3577
03:01:53,241 --> 03:01:55,821
the power of local research entrepreneurs

3578
03:01:55,821 --> 03:01:57,711
and the public private collaboration

3579
03:01:57,711 --> 03:02:01,911
to drive sustainable innovation and economic growth.

3580
03:02:03,831 --> 03:02:07,261
Go five Education and Learning on the Education and Learning

3581
03:02:07,261 --> 03:02:07,761
Front.

3582
03:02:07,761 --> 03:02:12,231
We start with Albemarle Career Exploration Academy Construction

3583
03:02:12,231 --> 03:02:15,441
on the 60,000 square foot Albemarle Career Exploration

3584
03:02:15,441 --> 03:02:20,249
Academy or Ace Lands Land Campus advanced to near completion

3585
03:02:20,249 --> 03:02:24,107
by the end of F y 26 and the new facility will house eight

3586
03:02:24,107 --> 03:02:27,971
Scholars Studios and serve up to 400 students daily from

3587
03:02:27,971 --> 03:02:29,130
Albemarle Monticello.

3588
03:02:29,130 --> 03:02:32,222
And western Albemarle High schools with specialized career

3589
03:02:32,222 --> 03:02:35,751
focused learning opportunities Next, we have Mountain View,

3590
03:02:35,751 --> 03:02:38,151
upper elementary construction construction

3591
03:02:38,842 --> 03:02:41,511
on the upper elementary reached substantial completion

3592
03:02:41,511 --> 03:02:44,481
by the end of that, by 26, expanding the mountain View

3593
03:02:44,481 --> 03:02:48,810
Campus alongside Mountain View Primary School,

3594
03:02:48,171 --> 03:02:52,341
the new school will serve students in grades 3 to 5

3595
03:02:52,341 --> 03:02:56,991
and then lastly, we have our PBC partners ships in F y 26,

3596
03:02:56,991 --> 03:02:59,511
Albemarle County, Part partnered with PBC

3597
03:02:59,511 --> 03:03:02,421
to provide professional development for county staff,

3598
03:03:02,421 --> 03:03:06,518
including training in conflict resolution, planning, and time

3599
03:03:06,518 --> 03:03:08,249
management and meeting facilitation

3600
03:03:08,249 --> 03:03:12,449
for more than 110 employees participated across 14 sessions,

3601
03:03:12,578 --> 03:03:14,901
strengthening workforce skills and supporting continued

3602
03:03:14,901 --> 03:03:17,301
improvement and service delivery.

3603
03:03:19,251 --> 03:03:21,573
And now our last goal here got six.

3604
03:03:21,573 --> 03:03:24,531
Workforce and customer service in f.

3605
03:03:24,531 --> 03:03:25,851
Y 26.

3606
03:03:25,851 --> 03:03:27,921
Both of our workforce health metrics

3607
03:03:27,921 --> 03:03:29,961
are looking very strong enough by 26

3608
03:03:29,961 --> 03:03:33,771
and represent clear improvement and success since f y 24

3609
03:03:33,771 --> 03:03:39,171
when this strategic plan was written and three really

3610
03:03:40,401 --> 03:03:42,501
great stories out of goal six here

3611
03:03:42,501 --> 03:03:45,800
we start with our supervisor conference,

3612
03:03:45,800 --> 03:03:47,841
the supervisor conference and February 2026

3613
03:03:47,841 --> 03:03:51,141
had more than 120 counties supervisors participate

3614
03:03:51,141 --> 03:03:53,721
in a conference focused on employee development.

3615
03:03:53,721 --> 03:03:57,321
Emerging technology and including Microsoft Copilot.

3616
03:03:57,741 --> 03:04:00,321
The training equips supervisors with practical strategies

3617
03:04:00,321 --> 03:04:03,951
and modern tools to strengthen organizational performance

3618
03:04:03,951 --> 03:04:06,351
and streamline their work.

3619
03:04:06,561 --> 03:04:08,601
Next, we have a really cool story

3620
03:04:08,601 --> 03:04:11,601
about optimizing temporary employee records.

3621
03:04:11,601 --> 03:04:14,571
Thanks to our new financial management system, the county

3622
03:04:14,571 --> 03:04:17,931
identified an opportunity to reduce costs and improve payroll

3623
03:04:17,931 --> 03:04:20,648
records by removing approximately I did

3624
03:04:20,648 --> 03:04:24,505
250 inactive temporary employee records from its system.

3625
03:04:24,505 --> 03:04:25,362
Streamline.

3626
03:04:25,362 --> 03:04:29,121
Streamline this process is expected to save approximately

3627
03:04:29,121 --> 03:04:32,121
$45,000 annually in software licensing costs,

3628
03:04:32,931 --> 03:04:35,331
while improving data accuracy.

3629
03:04:36,171 --> 03:04:38,601
And then lastly, we have the enhanced modernization

3630
03:04:38,601 --> 03:04:40,971
of mapping and geographic information systems.

3631
03:04:40,971 --> 03:04:44,781
G is the county modernized its GIs services

3632
03:04:44,781 --> 03:04:46,941
with improved search and partial tools.

3633
03:04:46,941 --> 03:04:49,311
New sketch and measurement features and expanded

3634
03:04:49,311 --> 03:04:51,311
data export capabilities.

3635
03:04:51,651 --> 03:04:54,591
These upgrades make accurate spatial information

3636
03:04:54,591 --> 03:04:57,651
more accessible, supporting greater operation and efficiency

3637
03:04:57,651 --> 03:05:00,501
data driven decision making and a better experience

3638
03:05:00,501 --> 03:05:02,590
for staff, partners and the public.

3639
03:05:02,590 --> 03:05:04,419
Thank you Board for your time.

3640
03:05:04,419 --> 03:05:06,769
And I will now hand the presentation back over

3641
03:05:06,769 --> 03:05:08,859
to Christy for questions and close up.

3642
03:05:08,859 --> 03:05:14,859
Thank you Sorry, there was a Q&A in there.

3643
03:05:17,961 --> 03:05:20,523
So let me go backwards.

3644
03:05:20,523 --> 03:05:23,546
Are there any questions about the data that you saw

3645
03:05:23,546 --> 03:05:25,361
or the report in general?

3646
03:05:25,361 --> 03:05:28,687
Our comments, I'd love to hear from the board.

3647
03:05:28,687 --> 03:05:31,950
And then and then after that time,

3648
03:05:31,950 --> 03:05:34,660
also, I'll go through a little bit of what's next.

3649
03:05:34,660 --> 03:05:35,254
OK.

3650
03:05:35,254 --> 03:05:37,334
Supervisor on at this took early.

3651
03:05:37,334 --> 03:05:38,522
Yes, absolutely.

3652
03:05:38,522 --> 03:05:42,833
I noted that when we talked about job that was a modest two

3653
03:05:42,833 --> 03:05:44,221
point something increase.

3654
03:05:44,221 --> 03:05:48,591
And I was wondering, since they use the word modest,

3655
03:05:48,591 --> 03:05:51,981
I was wondering whether or not that is in competition

3656
03:05:51,981 --> 03:05:54,381
with our micro-cap service.

3657
03:05:55,101 --> 03:05:56,961
In other words, it's a decrease in John

3658
03:05:56,961 --> 03:05:59,260
because there's an increase in microcap.

3659
03:05:59,260 --> 03:06:03,622
I'm just wondering if that I'd be true or not.

3660
03:06:03,622 --> 03:06:06,100
Mr. Sumner can come up.

3661
03:06:06,100 --> 03:06:11,310
And because he's the one that worked with us on this metric

3662
03:06:11,310 --> 03:06:13,980
to ask and answer that point for you.

3663
03:06:13,980 --> 03:06:14,481
Thanks.

3664
03:06:14,481 --> 03:06:14,961
Good afternoon.

3665
03:06:14,961 --> 03:06:17,241
Jacob Sumner Chief Financial Officer Great question.

3666
03:06:17,241 --> 03:06:21,411
It is not in competition as this a different level of service.

3667
03:06:21,411 --> 03:06:24,326
We use the word modest because the other statistics that

3668
03:06:24,326 --> 03:06:26,931
were preceding that part of the story

3669
03:06:26,931 --> 03:06:29,998
was substantial short increases in substantial ridership

3670
03:06:29,998 --> 03:06:32,361
and services related to the connector routes

3671
03:06:32,361 --> 03:06:36,411
so as to point something more of a norm and normal.

3672
03:06:36,411 --> 03:06:40,439
It is more of a status quo for that level of service

3673
03:06:40,439 --> 03:06:42,783
as opposed to the connect service,

3674
03:06:42,783 --> 03:06:44,792
which is seeing expansive growth.

3675
03:06:44,792 --> 03:06:45,461
OK.

3676
03:06:45,461 --> 03:06:48,141
Thank you And I have that.

3677
03:06:48,141 --> 03:06:50,271
I just wanted to give a shout out.

3678
03:06:50,271 --> 03:06:52,881
I know we did that the pickleball courts, brand

3679
03:06:52,881 --> 03:06:56,451
new pickleball courts at Darden, how I wanted to give a shout out

3680
03:06:56,451 --> 03:06:59,123
to the Parks and Recreation Foundation for doing.

3681
03:06:59,123 --> 03:07:00,905
And when they me here.

3682
03:07:00,905 --> 03:07:03,577
But I mean, for doing that because I

3683
03:07:03,577 --> 03:07:06,546
did that was at no cost to the county that

3684
03:07:06,546 --> 03:07:13,146
was paid for by the parks and Rec Foundation right Supervisor

3685
03:07:13,761 --> 03:07:16,161
Malik So thank you.

3686
03:07:16,911 --> 03:07:19,619
I'm really enjoyed seeing this evolve and learn something

3687
03:07:19,619 --> 03:07:20,756
new every time.

3688
03:07:20,756 --> 03:07:23,596
And I, I have some questions, but I

3689
03:07:23,596 --> 03:07:27,271
think I'll just send them to you because it's not really as much

3690
03:07:27,271 --> 03:07:27,771
helpful.

3691
03:07:27,771 --> 03:07:29,571
But one suggestion I guess, that I

3692
03:07:29,571 --> 03:07:34,410
can't resist under a goal to we talk about implementing

3693
03:07:34,410 --> 03:07:36,831
the Climate Action Plan and biodiversity the action plan,

3694
03:07:36,831 --> 03:07:40,821
making those part of the development review

3695
03:07:40,821 --> 03:07:44,310
seems to be the biggest gap because we're always finding out

3696
03:07:44,310 --> 03:07:47,872
afterwards about impacts when if we found out forehand,

3697
03:07:47,872 --> 03:07:49,448
it would be very helpful.

3698
03:07:49,448 --> 03:07:53,126
So I would just leave that with you to think about and others.

3699
03:07:53,126 --> 03:07:54,177
I'll send in.

3700
03:07:54,177 --> 03:07:54,965
Thank you.

3701
03:07:54,965 --> 03:07:58,666
Supervisor Duncan This is all really great and helpful.

3702
03:07:58,666 --> 03:08:00,263
I don't have any questions.

3703
03:08:00,263 --> 03:08:02,658
Super buzzer Pruitt, I think to add.

3704
03:08:02,658 --> 03:08:06,740
Thank you all so much Supervisor missile i

3705
03:08:06,740 --> 03:08:07,939
don't know whether to ask this question now

3706
03:08:07,939 --> 03:08:11,202
or to wait for the next steps, but I'll just ask it.

3707
03:08:11,202 --> 03:08:13,299
And then you can tell me it's clear.

3708
03:08:13,299 --> 03:08:15,214
So when we reach a goal like we've

3709
03:08:15,214 --> 03:08:17,762
hit our 100% target, for example, whatever

3710
03:08:17,762 --> 03:08:19,743
that goal is, what next?

3711
03:08:19,743 --> 03:08:21,442
Do we just shelve that.

3712
03:08:21,442 --> 03:08:25,122
And then take it off the list, or do we actually increase

3713
03:08:25,122 --> 03:08:27,850
the target and is it.

3714
03:08:27,850 --> 03:08:31,907
How do we do that as a, you know, an evergreen document?

3715
03:08:31,907 --> 03:08:36,951
I will say that this board gets the drive that answer.

3716
03:08:36,951 --> 03:08:39,148
This is the first time, you know, like I said,

3717
03:08:39,148 --> 03:08:40,641
we've been doing this three years.

3718
03:08:40,641 --> 03:08:41,141
Yeah.

3719
03:08:41,141 --> 03:08:43,641
So I think we can determine together

3720
03:08:43,641 --> 03:08:47,751
how we want that to work My profession will answer

3721
03:08:47,751 --> 03:08:51,591
would be that you would measure and maintain

3722
03:08:51,591 --> 03:08:54,561
that for a little while to make sure that that doesn't change.

3723
03:08:54,561 --> 03:08:55,161
Got it.

3724
03:08:55,161 --> 03:08:55,661
Yeah.

3725
03:08:55,661 --> 03:08:58,671
And then it would probably become operational.

3726
03:08:58,671 --> 03:09:00,561
Our maintain, right, Right.

3727
03:09:00,561 --> 03:09:01,911
The again.

3728
03:09:01,911 --> 03:09:05,713
What we'll talk about next is like the definition of strategy.

3729
03:09:05,713 --> 03:09:06,459
OK.

3730
03:09:06,459 --> 03:09:09,710
And when something is achieved or is

3731
03:09:09,710 --> 03:09:11,309
starting to become so routine.

3732
03:09:11,309 --> 03:09:12,550
Yeah.

3733
03:09:12,550 --> 03:09:15,655
You move on to different strategies.

3734
03:09:15,711 --> 03:09:16,461
Got great.

3735
03:09:16,461 --> 03:09:17,181
Thank you.

3736
03:09:17,181 --> 03:09:19,181
You're welcome.

3737
03:09:22,710 --> 03:09:28,530
Do we have the information development area or urban area,

3738
03:09:28,530 --> 03:09:30,453
depending on which one.

3739
03:09:31,396 --> 03:09:34,996
If you're talking fire or police.

3740
03:09:36,801 --> 03:09:38,781
I mean, every time I see that the number

3741
03:09:38,781 --> 03:09:40,641
is lower than what the target is,

3742
03:09:40,641 --> 03:09:42,981
it just reminds me of the situation

3743
03:09:42,981 --> 03:09:45,431
that they're in with the volume of calls,

3744
03:09:45,431 --> 03:09:48,180
you might not be able to meet that time

3745
03:09:48,180 --> 03:09:51,468
frame because if they're on the backup call and you need.

3746
03:09:51,468 --> 03:09:54,201
The third backup team to get to the call.

3747
03:09:54,201 --> 03:09:58,401
So traffic could be an indication to

3748
03:10:00,800 --> 03:10:02,614
beyond just the volume of service

3749
03:10:02,614 --> 03:10:05,310
And I would imagine it's the same for the police response.

3750
03:10:05,310 --> 03:10:10,410
Simon The urban area, so do we have that level of detail

3751
03:10:10,410 --> 03:10:15,810
beyond just volume of calls, but also going look,

3752
03:10:15,810 --> 03:10:18,411
these particular areas in the urban area

3753
03:10:18,411 --> 03:10:21,861
because of the traffic situation also is a problem.

3754
03:10:21,861 --> 03:10:24,648
And adds X amount of time, I think

3755
03:10:24,648 --> 03:10:28,314
that is what is so wonderful about our Sphere report is

3756
03:10:28,314 --> 03:10:32,648
that you are able to get a glimpse of all of the services

3757
03:10:32,648 --> 03:10:36,510
or at least most of the services in the areas.

3758
03:10:36,510 --> 03:10:38,241
When you want a deep dive into.

3759
03:10:38,241 --> 03:10:41,100
So something rises to the occasion, catches your eye,

3760
03:10:41,100 --> 03:10:43,110
you want to know more about it then

3761
03:10:43,110 --> 03:10:45,261
that allows us to go directly to the department

3762
03:10:45,261 --> 03:10:47,931
like you're asking and ask for those specifics

3763
03:10:47,931 --> 03:10:49,641
and those details.

3764
03:10:49,641 --> 03:10:51,531
And I would say absolutely Ali.

3765
03:10:51,531 --> 03:10:53,451
Both fire rescue and the police department

3766
03:10:53,451 --> 03:10:56,910
have a lot of information about their calls

3767
03:10:56,910 --> 03:10:59,271
for service, what's happening in the field, why

3768
03:10:59,271 --> 03:11:00,561
things are occurring.

3769
03:11:00,561 --> 03:11:02,271
And so we have that information that

3770
03:11:02,271 --> 03:11:05,900
actually is something that Gabe tracks as well

3771
03:11:05,900 --> 03:11:07,405
and that we can dig into.

3772
03:11:07,405 --> 03:11:13,205
I think it would behoove us to have just because of well, I

3773
03:11:13,205 --> 03:11:16,608
mean, I rant often about transportation

3774
03:11:16,608 --> 03:11:19,800
funding in the state.

3775
03:11:19,400 --> 03:11:24,921
But I don't recall really diving in beyond calls for service

3776
03:11:24,921 --> 03:11:28,791
the volume of calls and service and what that puts on the team.

3777
03:11:28,791 --> 03:11:33,591
But discussing transportation system and how it works

3778
03:11:34,221 --> 03:11:36,171
and what it could be adding to the delay

3779
03:11:36,171 --> 03:11:39,321
and trying to make this because that is something

3780
03:11:39,321 --> 03:11:42,128
that the state needs to understand,

3781
03:11:42,128 --> 03:11:45,471
that if you're not getting your transportation on your road

3782
03:11:45,471 --> 03:11:48,479
projects done either maintenance or better projects that need

3783
03:11:48,479 --> 03:11:51,651
to be put into place that that's impacting

3784
03:11:51,651 --> 03:11:54,621
public safety in a way that is beyond just saying,

3785
03:11:54,621 --> 03:11:57,861
I don't want to sit in traffic or, you know,

3786
03:11:57,861 --> 03:12:02,402
whatever So I'd be interested in some of that

3787
03:12:02,402 --> 03:12:04,963
as we continue, especially with our legislative agenda

3788
03:12:04,963 --> 03:12:06,670
and some focus that transportation,

3789
03:12:06,670 --> 03:12:09,585
I hope we'll get throughout the fall and a couple

3790
03:12:09,585 --> 03:12:11,300
of different venues.

3791
03:12:11,300 --> 03:12:11,712
OK.

3792
03:12:11,712 --> 03:12:14,902
And then the rural area, just from hearing

3793
03:12:14,902 --> 03:12:17,738
from other counties about it, same thing

3794
03:12:17,738 --> 03:12:21,141
for paving versus on paving for some of them.

3795
03:12:21,141 --> 03:12:23,904
So it's more than just an urban area issue.

3796
03:12:23,904 --> 03:12:26,610
There could be transportation projects out there

3797
03:12:26,610 --> 03:12:28,161
that slow down the time.

3798
03:12:28,161 --> 03:12:30,201
So even if you are well staffed and even

3799
03:12:30,201 --> 03:12:32,610
if you had the proper ratio that you

3800
03:12:32,610 --> 03:12:35,310
wanted for the level of service that you're receiving,

3801
03:12:35,310 --> 03:12:38,211
do you miss the target because of infrastructure constraints?

3802
03:12:38,211 --> 03:12:40,624
And I don't I don't know the answer.

3803
03:12:40,624 --> 03:12:41,556
I'm assuming.

3804
03:12:41,556 --> 03:12:43,732
So, but I don't know.

3805
03:12:43,732 --> 03:12:47,150
I don't have any hard and fast data on that,

3806
03:12:47,150 --> 03:12:51,196
both for our chief acting chief and chief were here The step,

3807
03:12:51,196 --> 03:12:53,451
you know, and you see both at the same time.

3808
03:12:53,451 --> 03:12:55,401
It makes you nervous about finances.

3809
03:12:55,401 --> 03:12:57,651
The they're probably doing something really important.

3810
03:12:57,651 --> 03:12:59,651
But Absolutely.

3811
03:12:59,835 --> 03:13:03,114
And so I was like, well, Scooter,

3812
03:13:03,114 --> 03:13:06,650
so we'll absolutely connect with them about that transportation

3813
03:13:06,650 --> 03:13:10,713
question And I'd also like to offer for us to talk about,

3814
03:13:10,713 --> 03:13:14,475
in the future are those targets that the department set.

3815
03:13:14,475 --> 03:13:18,351
I think we have high expectations of ourselves

3816
03:13:18,351 --> 03:13:20,931
and especially when it comes to public safety,

3817
03:13:20,931 --> 03:13:24,111
they want it to always be 100%.

3818
03:13:24,111 --> 03:13:28,371
And so there's also that of, you know, what is fair,

3819
03:13:28,371 --> 03:13:32,156
What's a fair expectation versus that high performing one.

3820
03:13:32,156 --> 03:13:34,539
Any other comments or questions?

3821
03:13:34,539 --> 03:13:36,128
Yes, sir.

3822
03:13:36,128 --> 03:13:40,710
If I may, that discussion on kind of the I've

3823
03:13:40,710 --> 03:13:45,201
previously expressed that I find I said this particular response

3824
03:13:45,201 --> 03:13:49,281
to our fire for a response times in that I,

3825
03:13:49,281 --> 03:13:54,810
I don't think it's realistically possible to have 100%.

3826
03:13:55,521 --> 03:13:58,784
And when you have a standard rate,

3827
03:13:58,784 --> 03:14:01,710
a standard can only serve as purpose.

3828
03:14:01,710 --> 03:14:03,905
If it's able to incentivize.

3829
03:14:03,905 --> 03:14:06,465
And gesture toward something that's feasible.

3830
03:14:06,465 --> 03:14:09,321
And when there's too much of a disconnect between a law

3831
03:14:09,321 --> 03:14:11,331
and expectation and what is feasible,

3832
03:14:11,331 --> 03:14:13,251
then it becomes a dead letter and it actually

3833
03:14:13,251 --> 03:14:16,611
can disincentivize it's like leaning in toward that goal.

3834
03:14:16,611 --> 03:14:20,250
So that's kind of a I thought I have along that axis.

3835
03:14:20,250 --> 03:14:23,524
And that I think the same could probably be said of our police

3836
03:14:23,524 --> 03:14:24,600
rural response times.

3837
03:14:24,600 --> 03:14:27,230
But as I was sitting here thinking about this

3838
03:14:27,230 --> 03:14:31,809
or and chair gallery where speaking it, it also it.

3839
03:14:31,809 --> 03:14:35,756
I don't know that I need a response to this.

3840
03:14:35,756 --> 03:14:42,951
But I am wondering if we are using spear as a storytelling

3841
03:14:42,951 --> 03:14:48,201
tool or as a program evaluation tool I feel like it's

3842
03:14:48,201 --> 03:14:51,561
been conceived of and talked about as a program evaluation

3843
03:14:51,561 --> 03:14:56,841
tool, but in practice, not being the person who's feeding

3844
03:14:56,841 --> 03:14:59,841
the inputs, it feels more like to me as a supervisor,

3845
03:14:59,841 --> 03:15:01,221
it's being used as a storytelling

3846
03:15:01,221 --> 03:15:04,221
tool, which isn't a problem.

3847
03:15:04,611 --> 03:15:06,575
We need both of these things.

3848
03:15:06,575 --> 03:15:10,417
But I think it, it will be better

3849
03:15:10,417 --> 03:15:16,394
at whatever it is when it is very firmly one of those things.

3850
03:15:16,394 --> 03:15:17,924
If that makes sense.

3851
03:15:17,924 --> 03:15:21,145
A storytelling tool that says, I am a storytelling tool.

3852
03:15:21,145 --> 03:15:23,240
And that's what I'm doing is going

3853
03:15:23,240 --> 03:15:24,634
to be a more effective storytelling

3854
03:15:24,634 --> 03:15:26,512
tool and a program evaluation tool that

3855
03:15:26,512 --> 03:15:29,464
says That's what I'm doing.

3856
03:15:29,464 --> 03:15:31,757
I'm about informing the loop.

3857
03:15:31,757 --> 03:15:34,500
I'm not going explain that.

3858
03:15:34,500 --> 03:15:37,911
I am about like helping inform and orient and make

3859
03:15:37,911 --> 03:15:39,651
second decisions and follow on decisions

3860
03:15:39,651 --> 03:15:42,471
and informing and orienting and making second on the decision

3861
03:15:42,471 --> 03:15:45,510
is better equipped to do that.

3862
03:15:45,510 --> 03:15:47,841
It feels right now that maybe spear spears somewhere

3863
03:15:47,841 --> 03:15:49,431
in between.

3864
03:15:49,431 --> 03:15:54,411
So that is a reflection I wanted to share.

3865
03:15:54,411 --> 03:15:56,871
Supervisor Malik, did you have an just.

3866
03:15:56,871 --> 03:15:59,910
I was just going to echo that.

3867
03:15:59,910 --> 03:16:03,771
I think I would love to learn more at some point

3868
03:16:03,771 --> 03:16:07,581
about the drop to ten minutes for PD response

3869
03:16:07,581 --> 03:16:10,191
in the rural area because I mean,

3870
03:16:10,191 --> 03:16:11,691
it's been a long time since they had

3871
03:16:11,691 --> 03:16:13,704
to come 2014 when we were broken into,

3872
03:16:13,704 --> 03:16:15,198
but it took them 25 minutes.

3873
03:16:15,198 --> 03:16:16,781
And that was completely understandable

3874
03:16:16,781 --> 03:16:19,261
because of the distance of the car accidents

3875
03:16:19,261 --> 03:16:21,431
and other things along the way.

3876
03:16:21,431 --> 03:16:24,841
So I just always I know that there's a great desire

3877
03:16:24,841 --> 03:16:30,171
to improve and have, but I agree that reality

3878
03:16:30,171 --> 03:16:32,661
is really important, especially for people considering

3879
03:16:32,661 --> 03:16:34,641
moving to a certain place.

3880
03:16:34,641 --> 03:16:38,221
We can't have people moving half an hour beyond where I am,

3881
03:16:38,221 --> 03:16:39,348
and you are.

3882
03:16:39,348 --> 03:16:42,448
And then say, I want ten minutes something or other

3883
03:16:42,448 --> 03:16:44,139
because it's going to happen.

3884
03:16:44,139 --> 03:16:49,400
And so it's not fair to anybody to set people up

3885
03:16:49,400 --> 03:16:52,213
to make those kinds of issues.

3886
03:16:52,213 --> 03:16:56,413
And the other side of the story.

3887
03:16:57,322 --> 03:17:01,875
I would tell for the transportation issues is a

3888
03:17:01,875 --> 03:17:06,831
and it came to mind because of the storm last Friday

3889
03:17:06,831 --> 03:17:10,221
and four roads of four roads in and out of silver all

3890
03:17:10,221 --> 03:17:14,898
blocked by huge trees and wires down and everything.

3891
03:17:14,898 --> 03:17:18,221
A 36 hour power outage, but we need to also.

3892
03:17:18,221 --> 03:17:20,435
And it's not even addressed in here.

3893
03:17:20,435 --> 03:17:22,927
So I'm probably saying it out of turn.

3894
03:17:22,927 --> 03:17:25,731
But figuring out improvements to our communication strategies

3895
03:17:25,731 --> 03:17:29,691
and things like that happen is really important

3896
03:17:29,691 --> 03:17:31,971
to keep people from going to these same places

3897
03:17:31,971 --> 03:17:35,211
where they're going to have to turn around or stop and get

3898
03:17:35,211 --> 03:17:37,191
stuck in large traffic jams, etc.

3899
03:17:37,191 --> 03:17:41,188
So people were basically just parking their car

3900
03:17:41,188 --> 03:17:42,771
in Rogers parking lot and walking home

3901
03:17:42,771 --> 03:17:45,642
because they weren't going to get anywhere.

3902
03:17:45,642 --> 03:17:47,780
Any other way.

3903
03:17:47,780 --> 03:17:48,873
So that was crazy.

3904
03:17:48,873 --> 03:17:52,103
But it's just one of these emergency resiliency planning

3905
03:17:52,103 --> 03:17:55,490
things that as I said, doesn't really fit here.

3906
03:17:55,490 --> 03:17:57,676
But I'll leave it on your doorstep anyway.

3907
03:17:57,676 --> 03:17:58,405
Thank you.

3908
03:17:58,405 --> 03:17:59,620
I and the others.

3909
03:17:59,620 --> 03:18:00,349
All right.

3910
03:18:00,349 --> 03:18:02,278
I think we're ready for next step.

3911
03:18:02,278 --> 03:18:02,778
OK.

3912
03:18:02,778 --> 03:18:04,778
Oops All right.

3913
03:18:06,741 --> 03:18:10,551
And I'm going to respond to Supervisor Pruitt's

3914
03:18:10,551 --> 03:18:14,380
comment I think you are right.

3915
03:18:14,380 --> 03:18:16,230
It is both right now.

3916
03:18:16,230 --> 03:18:20,324
And it is to try to meet our constituents where they are,

3917
03:18:20,324 --> 03:18:24,771
which is some people do not love data like we love data.

3918
03:18:24,771 --> 03:18:27,861
And some people just want to hear about impact.

3919
03:18:27,861 --> 03:18:29,129
And so we have done both.

3920
03:18:29,129 --> 03:18:30,921
But I will tell you that behind the scenes,

3921
03:18:30,921 --> 03:18:32,795
it's a lot of program evaluation,

3922
03:18:32,795 --> 03:18:36,232
we just don't publish that in this report,

3923
03:18:36,232 --> 03:18:39,287
but it is published online every data point

3924
03:18:39,287 --> 03:18:42,501
that we collect is on our website

3925
03:18:42,501 --> 03:18:45,921
But I also would say that the more feedback we get

3926
03:18:45,921 --> 03:18:50,121
about making it more and more program specific like

3927
03:18:50,121 --> 03:18:54,700
and evaluation, we can make that shift and we can do that.

3928
03:18:54,700 --> 03:18:59,990
So for this, I think I just want to go back to a few key.

3929
03:18:59,990 --> 03:19:00,686
This.

3930
03:19:00,686 --> 03:19:04,279
Like we've said to the point of it's

3931
03:19:04,279 --> 03:19:07,731
a program which is Spear's one component of where

3932
03:19:07,731 --> 03:19:11,567
we have started to measure performance and have data.

3933
03:19:11,567 --> 03:19:14,421
And so you're very familiar with that one.

3934
03:19:14,421 --> 03:19:15,152
We've mentioned.

3935
03:19:15,152 --> 03:19:17,991
And there's the budgetary analysis and reporting.

3936
03:19:17,991 --> 03:19:22,251
So that was new last year and went into the adopted budget

3937
03:19:22,251 --> 03:19:25,551
that was really for us to speak to your decisions

3938
03:19:25,551 --> 03:19:27,801
about putting key investment in our.

3939
03:19:27,801 --> 03:19:31,521
I remember very vividly Joe Galloway saying okay,

3940
03:19:31,521 --> 03:19:34,491
we invested money in this thing last year.

3941
03:19:34,491 --> 03:19:37,731
How can we tell if that investment is working?

3942
03:19:37,731 --> 03:19:40,641
And so we have taken that effort and built

3943
03:19:40,641 --> 03:19:42,441
this budgetary analysis and reporting.

3944
03:19:42,441 --> 03:19:45,441
So you'll see that more and more each year.

3945
03:19:45,441 --> 03:19:47,241
We can track because sometimes it

3946
03:19:47,241 --> 03:19:49,641
takes multiple years to see that impact.

3947
03:19:49,641 --> 03:19:52,701
And then lastly, we have the delivering the services.

3948
03:19:52,701 --> 03:19:56,151
And so you're very familiar with the annual Community Report

3949
03:19:56,151 --> 03:19:58,581
that our communications and public engagement team

3950
03:19:58,581 --> 03:20:01,761
has been doing for some time and our team

3951
03:20:01,761 --> 03:20:03,741
and their team are working together

3952
03:20:03,741 --> 03:20:07,401
to connect that more of the core services

3953
03:20:07,401 --> 03:20:09,651
and have that data connected as well.

3954
03:20:09,651 --> 03:20:14,158
So you'll be seeing some updates to that in the future.

3955
03:20:14,158 --> 03:20:19,911
So this is for our public to understand kind of what's next.

3956
03:20:19,911 --> 03:20:24,201
And that is that we're in year four of the strategic plan

3957
03:20:24,201 --> 03:20:27,651
and we're going to begin to determine how we fund

3958
03:20:27,651 --> 03:20:29,151
that last year of this plan.

3959
03:20:29,151 --> 03:20:32,391
As you move through the fall and spring and then

3960
03:20:32,391 --> 03:20:36,621
we're going to look for insight and perspective

3961
03:20:36,621 --> 03:20:41,691
early in the process as we move through the next strategic plan

3962
03:20:41,691 --> 03:20:43,641
effort.

3963
03:20:43,641 --> 03:20:45,510
Sorry, I hit the wrong one.

3964
03:20:45,510 --> 03:20:47,241
Let me go forward.

3965
03:20:47,241 --> 03:20:50,224
And so, as you know we have this process

3966
03:20:50,224 --> 03:20:52,641
that we're going to that you're going to be going through,

3967
03:20:52,641 --> 03:20:54,981
where we're going to look at long range planning.

3968
03:20:54,981 --> 03:20:57,956
You're going to take the last year of the strategic plan,

3969
03:20:57,956 --> 03:21:01,821
try to invest and move and progress things forward.

3970
03:21:01,821 --> 03:21:03,531
As you see fit.

3971
03:21:03,531 --> 03:21:06,111
And then we're going to have a discussion

3972
03:21:06,111 --> 03:21:08,451
about the next strategic plan.

3973
03:21:08,451 --> 03:21:11,601
And that is coming up And so we'll be doing that again.

3974
03:21:11,601 --> 03:21:14,961
And I'd also like to offer to you all that the next Speer

3975
03:21:14,961 --> 03:21:17,601
Report is going to have multi years.

3976
03:21:17,601 --> 03:21:20,219
And so instead of having the One year snapshot,

3977
03:21:20,219 --> 03:21:23,626
we have enough data to show the progress over time.

3978
03:21:23,626 --> 03:21:25,793
And so that's the next iteration.

3979
03:21:25,793 --> 03:21:30,921
And refinement that will be providing So with that,

3980
03:21:30,921 --> 03:21:34,211
I am done for my presentation and initial questions

3981
03:21:34,211 --> 03:21:34,794
for your time.

3982
03:21:34,794 --> 03:21:35,931
Go ahead.

3983
03:21:35,931 --> 03:21:38,610
Not if you have additional session.

3984
03:21:38,610 --> 03:21:42,531
No, of Did you want to make a comment?

3985
03:21:42,531 --> 03:21:46,161
You leaned in like I like the I thank you.

3986
03:21:46,161 --> 03:21:50,961
I like the idea of having a multi year snapshot

3987
03:21:50,961 --> 03:21:54,942
that we can see and look at our progress like any others.

3988
03:21:54,942 --> 03:21:55,555
Great.

3989
03:21:55,555 --> 03:21:58,500
You have what you needed from us.

3990
03:21:58,500 --> 03:21:58,617
Yes.

3991
03:21:58,617 --> 03:21:59,541
Thank you.

3992
03:21:59,541 --> 03:22:01,430
Thank you very much, Chris.

3993
03:22:01,430 --> 03:22:02,450
Thank you, Chris.

3994
03:22:02,450 --> 03:22:02,545
Thanks.

3995
03:22:02,545 --> 03:22:03,188
All right.

3996
03:22:03,188 --> 03:22:06,192
The next item, number 12, we're ready for our closed meeting.

3997
03:22:06,192 --> 03:22:07,510
And we do.

3998
03:22:07,510 --> 03:22:08,767
We have a motion to go in.

3999
03:22:08,767 --> 03:22:11,241
I remember that the board of Supervisors convened a closed

4000
03:22:11,241 --> 03:22:15,141
meeting pursuant to Section 2.2-37118 of the Code

4001
03:22:15,141 --> 03:22:19,221
of Virginia under subsection eight to consult with legal

4002
03:22:19,221 --> 03:22:21,771
counsel regarding specific legal matters,

4003
03:22:21,771 --> 03:22:25,701
including possible agreements with AstraZeneca LP require

4004
03:22:25,701 --> 03:22:30,598
the provision of legal advice by such counsel Second, all right,

4005
03:22:30,598 --> 03:22:32,181
the motion has been made and seconded.

4006
03:22:32,181 --> 03:22:34,761
Without objection that the clerk will please call the roll.

4007
03:22:34,761 --> 03:22:35,751
Mr. Galloway.

4008
03:22:35,751 --> 03:22:37,441
Yes, Mr. Peace Secretary.

4009
03:22:37,441 --> 03:22:37,941
Ms..

4010
03:22:37,941 --> 03:22:39,691
Malik Yes Mr. Mitchell.

4011
03:22:39,691 --> 03:22:40,191
All right.

4012
03:22:40,191 --> 03:22:40,881
Mr. Pruitt.

4013
03:22:40,881 --> 03:22:42,231
I miss Duncan.

4014
03:22:42,231 --> 03:22:43,351
Yes.

4015
03:22:43,351 --> 03:22:43,851
All right.

4016
03:22:43,851 --> 03:22:46,251
We are All right.