[0:20] Thank you very much.
[0:22] And board.
[0:22] We have a final agenda in front of us.
[0:26] I do want to point out that attachments E and F for item
[0:29] number 16, which is EMEA 25 four and Z is EMEA 25 518
[0:35] on Fifth Street, Phase two were replaced on line on August 13.
[0:41] Copies of the changes are both over
[0:43] where our sign ups are and I believe
[0:47] you have the attached attachments here
[0:49] at are with us up here as well.
[0:52] This is not an amendment to the final agenda,
[0:54] just noting that the information was swapped out.
[0:57] Are there any changes to the final agenda?
[1:01] Is there a motion to adopt the final agenda?
[1:03] Some of.
[1:04] Second, the motion has been made and seconded.
[1:07] Without objection.
[1:08] If the clerk will please call the roll.
[1:10] Mr. Galloway?
[1:11] Yes, sir.
[1:12] Currently, I. Hi, Miss Mallett.
[1:13] Yes, Mr. Missal.
[1:15] All right, Mr. Pruitt.
[1:16] All right Miss Duncan?
[1:17] Yes.
[1:19] Very good.
[1:19] We have an agenda approved, and we will now
[1:23] move to item number five.
[1:24] Briefing announcements by board members and Supervisor Pistole
[1:27] curtly.
[1:28] You're leaving us off?
[1:30] Yes.
[1:30] I am happy to announce that there will be a pant hobbs
[1:35] community celebration on Sunday, October 4th,
[1:39] from 3 to 6 at 1525.
[1:42] Stony point Road.
[1:44] You are invited.
[1:45] There will be food and a bunch of other stuff.
[1:49] So please, if you can attend attend.
[1:51] Thank you.
[1:53] Supervisor Malik.
[1:55] Thank you very much.
[1:56] Just a quick update from the invasive species bills,
[2:00] which were passed with our local delegates
[2:02] help at the General Assembly and signed by the governor.
[2:06] House Bill 88 allows roadside management
[2:09] of invasive species in be the rights of way
[2:12] big, big, big step forward.
[2:14] So when we see takeovers of alliances and the scars
[2:18] from that, they've been planting willfully,
[2:20] that is now taking over of we need
[2:22] to send things to Greg Cooley and he will work on that.
[2:25] House Bill 109 closes the invasive plant
[2:28] commercial viability loophole.
[2:30] That was Holly Siebold from Loudon
[2:32] to try to restrict the sales of things
[2:34] which we know are invasive and should not be here.
[2:37] This was ten years in the making and the Nursery Mens Association
[2:41] in Virginia was behind this work.
[2:43] All considered and part of it.
[2:44] And behind it all the way h sb 89,
[2:48] HB 8388 expands powers of public service districts
[2:51] to include invasive plant control.
[2:54] So Katrina Coulson and Senator Sulayem carried that one.
[2:57] And lastly senate Bill 163 allows
[3:00] volunteers to assist with invasive plant
[3:01] control on state owned lands.
[3:03] Senator McDougal had to get that passed
[3:05] because we trip over our own rules all the time.
[3:09] But anyway, I just wanted to bring that to attention
[3:11] because I, like many other people miss
[3:15] the early signs of a whole lot of things on our property
[3:17] that now I'm killing myself trying to pull out because I
[3:20] didn't catch them in year one.
[3:21] And we all need to try to catch them in year one.
[3:24] Thank you.
[3:26] All right, Supervisor Duncan, I am
[3:29] looking for an advisory member to serve
[3:32] on the advisory board for the Department of Social Services.
[3:35] As you have to live in the Directorate District.
[3:38] It is a great way to sort of serve
[3:40] as a communication bridge between what
[3:43] the US is doing in the community, between the board
[3:46] and the community.
[3:48] This is a great way to participate
[3:49] kind of in the humans services.
[3:51] Part of what the county is offering.
[3:53] The only requirement is that you live in the district.
[3:55] And so if there are people that are interested, please email me.
[4:00] Thank you.
[4:01] Supervisor Pruitt.
[4:03] Yes, as I do so many times a year,
[4:07] I'd like to remind folks that election laws are always
[4:10] coming up.
[4:12] Our next election is going to be on the 3rd of November.
[4:15] There are a lot of things on the ballot.
[4:18] We have two federal offices, both our congressional
[4:21] representative and Senator as well as for referenda,
[4:25] that's three constitutional referendum referenda and one
[4:30] local spending referendum that we recently authorized
[4:36] registration to vote and update your registration is going to be
[4:39] up until October 23rd.
[4:41] So that is coming up fast.
[4:43] You can still vote on a provisional after that,
[4:45] but that is your deadline to change and update
[4:48] your registration Early in-person voting
[4:50] starts very soon.
[4:52] It starts in September 18 and runs in
[4:56] through the end of October.
[4:59] And additionally, I mentioned this previous meeting,
[5:02] but I'll say it again Fridays on the Canal final Friday
[5:07] of every summer, Friday month in Scottsville.
[5:12] I really butchered that.
[5:13] But the thing that matters is coming up on the 28th will be
[5:17] the Drew pace band down by the canal in Scottsville at five.
[5:24] That's all I got.
[5:25] All right.
[5:26] Supervisor Missal.
[5:27] Great.
[5:27] Thank you, Chair.
[5:28] A couple of comments.
[5:29] One is Java is sponsoring a wills for seniors.
[5:33] It's a free life planning from a local estate planning attorney.
[5:37] And it is coming up this way.
[5:39] Advance notice in October, but October will be here before we
[5:42] know it, October 13th.
[5:44] And I'd just encourage the community
[5:47] to go to their website, the Java website, to confirm eligibility
[5:51] and to sign up in advance for that.
[5:53] It is one day only and by appointment only.
[5:58] Second announcement is there is plans.
[6:01] There are plans for two historical markers
[6:05] to be located in the L.A. area there.
[6:09] They've they've been planning this for quite a while.
[6:11] And the event will be occurring I should
[6:15] know that it's not on here.
[6:17] It is coming up in September or middle of September
[6:21] so I don't have a date that the event will be at 2 p.m.
[6:24] at Yancy Community Center and it'll be a dual marker
[6:27] historical installation for both the Esmond High School,
[6:31] which was from 1915 to 1959, and Benjamin Franklin Elementary
[6:36] School from 1960 to 2017.
[6:38] Sorry, it's on Sunday afternoon, September 27th.
[6:41] There it is.
[6:42] Benjamin Franklin.
[6:43] Yancey Yes.
[6:44] Don't forget the answer.
[6:45] OK.
[6:46] Thank you That's all.
[6:47] Thanks.
[6:49] Very good.
[6:50] I do not have any announcements.
[6:52] Oh, I actually do.
[6:53] Over the by.
[6:55] I'm pretty sure this weekend coming up
[6:57] is moving weekend for UVA starting tomorrow.
[7:00] I like to always just remind folks
[7:02] that that's going to be a lot of new people on the roads
[7:06] and that every all of us can execute some patience as people
[7:09] maneuver around and get jammed down, especially in the barracks
[7:12] road, Yuba area grounds area.
[7:15] But just everyone below extra careful, little extra
[7:18] considerate and we'll make it through that weekend All right.
[7:23] With that, we will move to number six proclamations
[7:27] and recognitions.
[7:28] And we do have three different items today.
[7:30] The first is a proclamation recognizing Kosovo,
[7:33] African-American history Day 2026
[7:36] and we have is a Dayvon Dayvon Williams with us.
[7:40] Did I say the name right now I'm representing
[7:43] Lucille Smith got here.
[7:44] Lucille Smith will be with us.
[7:45] How this will work as supervisor missile
[7:48] or read the proclamation today as a motion
[7:50] the board will take a vote and then
[7:53] we would welcome you in anyone else
[7:55] to come down and make some remarks.
[7:56] And then we will probably make some comments
[7:58] and ask some questions as well.
[8:00] So a supervisor missile.
[8:01] Great.
[8:01] Thank you.
[8:02] You.
[8:03] It's my pleasure and honor to make this as a motion.
[8:07] Whereas the historic community of Coatesville, Virginia,
[8:10] listed on the National Registry of Historic places
[8:12] represents an important chapter in the history of Albemarle
[8:15] County and stands as a testament to the generation of families
[8:18] whose perseverance Labor faith and commitment
[8:21] helped shape the county's agricultural, industrial, and
[8:24] cultural heritage.
[8:25] And.
[8:26] Whereas, for generations the African-American community
[8:29] of Coatesville played an essential role
[8:31] in Albemarle County's growth by cultivating and supporting
[8:34] the region's internationally recognized, award winning apple
[8:36] orchards construct in countless miles of railroad
[8:39] working in local mines, harvesting timber
[8:42] and contributing to the industries that
[8:44] fueled the county's economy and development And.
[8:46] Whereas, the community's enduring spirit is reflected
[8:50] in institutions such as the First Baptist Church,
[8:52] Coatesville, which this year celebrates its 142nd anniversary
[8:57] as a pillar of the Fellowship leadership and service
[9:00] for generations of Coatesville families and the broader
[9:03] Albemarle County Community.
[9:05] And.
[9:05] Whereas, Coatesville has produced individuals whose lives
[9:09] and achievements have strengthened Albemarle county,
[9:11] including Cornelia Johnson, a proud daughter of Kerrville,
[9:15] who became the first African-American woman to serve
[9:17] as a police officer in Charlottesville and later,
[9:20] the first elected female sheriff in the city of Charlottesville.
[9:24] Breaking barriers and paving the way for future generations
[9:26] of public servants And.
[9:29] Whereas, Coatesville History Day,
[9:31] hosted by the William H. And Virginia, a Williams family
[9:34] foundation and the country house Project
[9:37] in partnership with First Baptist Church,
[9:40] Coatesville brings together descendants, residents,
[9:43] historians, preservationists and visitors
[9:45] to celebrate the community's rich heritage through genealogy,
[9:48] oral histories, historic preservation
[9:51] and educational programming cultural activities,
[9:55] while ensuring that the stories and contributions of Coatesville
[9:59] continue to inspire future generations.
[10:02] therefore be it proclaimed that we, the Albemarle County
[10:05] Board of Supervisors, do hereby proclaim
[10:07] the fourth Saturday of August as Coatesville
[10:10] all African-American History Day in Albemarle County, Virginia,
[10:13] and recognize the remarkable history enduring legacy
[10:17] and continuing contributions of the Coatesville community while
[10:20] honoring the generations whose stories have enriched
[10:23] the character of Albemarle County this 19th century.
[10:27] 2026.
[10:29] Second, Thank you.
[10:30] Very good.
[10:30] The motion has been made and seconded.
[10:32] Without objection, if the clerk will please call the roll.
[10:34] Mr. Galloway.
[10:35] Yes, Mr. Peace to Kirtley.
[10:37] I miss Malik.
[10:38] Yes, Mr. Missal.
[10:39] Hi, Mr. Pruitt.
[10:41] I miss Duncan.
[10:42] Yes.
[10:43] Thank you.
[10:43] Board and please come forward.
[10:45] If you'd like to make some remarks, and we'll do likewise.
[10:48] And then we'll bring the proclamation down
[10:58] Good afternoon.
[10:59] I have to acknowledge and chair Mr. Galloway
[11:03] and the members of the are Board of Supervisors.
[11:08] Thank you.
[11:09] And i so graciously accept this proclamation
[11:13] and I would like to say that I am a transplant here from Little
[11:18] Rock, Arkansas.
[11:20] But I'm a member of the First Baptist Church of Coatesville,
[11:24] and I'm the historian there.
[11:25] And I have written their history.
[11:28] And I'd also like to say that my husband, who grew up
[11:30] in the coastal area, once upon a time
[11:33] was chair of this city school board,
[11:36] and he served on that board for nine years.
[11:39] And also as the chair of the Albemarle Charlottesville public
[11:44] Defender's Office.
[11:46] So that's a lot of history there.
[11:49] And I so graciously accept this proclamation
[11:53] from Albemarle County.
[11:54] Thank you so much.
[11:55] We're going to invite the supervisors to make
[11:57] any remarks they wish to do so supervise, just let this go.
[11:59] Currently on a personal note, where in Arkansas are you from?
[12:03] I grew up in Little Rock.
[12:05] Little Rock.
[12:06] OK.
[12:06] Is miles from the Capitol to My late husband
[12:09] was from Arkansas, born and raised.
[12:13] So this is really an honor for you all.
[12:17] And it's an honor for us to be able to present
[12:20] a proclamation to you for you, because I think
[12:23] without everybody's effort I don't
[12:26] think we'd have much of a county, frankly,
[12:29] sounded like you all.
[12:30] You were.
[12:31] So the African American community was so involved.
[12:34] I think not only Coatesville, but frankly,
[12:37] throughout the entire county.
[12:39] I mean, what you did for especially for agriculture,
[12:42] which I'm not like, but everything you built
[12:47] and faith based, I think it's extremely important You kind of
[12:53] set the stage for everything.
[12:56] And you do you just all have contributed the the community
[13:01] has contributed so much.
[13:02] And continues to do so.
[13:04] So I don't want anyone to think that something was done.
[13:10] And then that's it.
[13:11] No, it's a continuation of everything
[13:14] that has been done before You past generations,
[13:17] and it's truly an honor that you're
[13:20] part of what we're all part of the same county
[13:23] because you really without those efforts,
[13:27] I'm not sure how well, we would have done, frankly.
[13:31] Thank you.
[13:32] You.
[13:33] Thank you.
[13:34] Supervisor Malik.
[13:36] Thank you very much for coming.
[13:37] And I so appreciate the work of our local
[13:41] parishes our residents and descendants to call recognition
[13:45] to our history, not just a house or a president, but all of us.
[13:50] As a native, I grew up here living in the history every day.
[13:53] But I was in my 60s before I learned a much more complete
[13:57] story, and it was my constituents who helped me to do
[14:00] that.
[14:01] Every district and rural area has about all of it,
[14:04] or First Baptist Coatesville or Little Church in Browns Cove
[14:08] or Piedmont Baptist and Yancey Mills
[14:09] that all hold the communities together.
[14:12] And so we all need to work together
[14:14] to continue to strengthen each other
[14:16] and to make that story even more known.
[14:18] Thank you very much, Supervisor Duncan.
[14:22] I. I teach a u.S. history class for high schoolers,
[14:26] but it's also a U.S. and local history class.
[14:28] And so as part of the research for it.
[14:31] When I was first doing it, as I was looking
[14:33] at kind of black history in America County,
[14:36] and there are so many communities like this,
[14:40] like everywhere in the county And when you start looking,
[14:43] when you start seeing road names and churches,
[14:46] you just realize like how rich the fabric was and still is.
[14:51] And so this is a really sometimes it's
[14:53] hard to like find that information
[14:55] or have it kind of told cohesively
[14:57] And so this is really fantastic to do a day like this.
[15:01] I was just kind of skimming the article from last year's History
[15:04] Day and the pictures and all of the stuff that's happening.
[15:07] So this is really exciting that we're doing this.
[15:09] I hope this spreads to a lot of the other communities
[15:13] are here because this is a really really rich, deep history
[15:16] that's really important.
[15:17] So thank you.
[15:20] Supervisor Pruitt.
[15:21] Thank you so much for joining us here today.
[15:24] You know, you were mentioning teaching us history.
[15:27] And I remember when I took U.S. history.
[15:29] And I think about U.S. history, what
[15:31] do we think we think of like all these famous people, this litany
[15:36] of famous people and famous places
[15:39] that we categorize and orient our knowledge around.
[15:43] And when you live in a country with a history, like ours,
[15:47] there is a long period of who was
[15:51] excluded from being able to be a famous person in this country.
[15:55] And if that's the only way we think
[15:57] about history and this litany of fame and power,
[16:00] are we completely erased?
[16:02] Like so much of what we are as a country
[16:06] or what we are as a people or what we are as Albemarle County?
[16:11] And it's so easy for these places
[16:13] where we there isn't a government of Coatesville,
[16:16] there isn't something to hold that memory and that story.
[16:20] And if we only think about the people of power,
[16:23] then we forget all these people we get from power.
[16:26] And we forget all the history that
[16:28] makes us a full and complete community.
[16:30] So I want to just thank you all so much for helping us capture
[16:36] and enshrine and tell this story of a full and complete history
[16:40] of this community and what we are together as a country.
[16:44] Thank you.
[16:46] Thank you.
[16:46] Supervisor Missal.
[16:47] Thank you.
[16:47] I'd just like to say ditto to what everybody said,
[16:50] but I also have some things to say.
[16:52] Thank you for this.
[16:54] And Coatesville is a really special place.
[16:56] I didn't really didn't realize how amazing it
[16:59] is it was until I started to learn some of the history.
[17:03] And I'm really envious of history.
[17:05] And so the work that you're doing
[17:07] in building the database of the past
[17:09] and thinking forward to the future is essential.
[17:12] I've had an opportunity to do some of that in my other job
[17:15] and I'm happy to partner with you
[17:16] and see if there are ways that we can continue
[17:18] to build that database, because I know
[17:20] that's where the power and the information
[17:23] is really leveraged amongst the that the community.
[17:27] So thank you for this opportunity.
[17:30] And very much look forward to handing you this in a second.
[17:34] OK.
[17:35] I join with my colleagues on their remarks.
[17:37] And I have a question.
[17:38] I know that a handful of years ago
[17:40] and the effort that was made to gather oral remarks
[17:45] or to hear folks passed down through that storytelling
[17:48] in that way, and they were actually
[17:50] having their stories recorded for the record
[17:52] and the particular event.
[17:53] I remembering was at the Antique Community Center.
[17:56] Does that still go on?
[17:58] Are we still collecting specifically
[18:01] from that oral history way, the actual vocal record of hearing
[18:04] folks tell the history that oral history is still
[18:09] being collected.
[18:09] And I would also like to say that it took me about ten years,
[18:14] but I have a complete video of the history of Coatesville
[18:19] just completed, and I would like to give provide
[18:21] a copy to the Historical Society because great, it's
[18:25] a lot of information in that video and whatever is doing
[18:29] and the foundation is taking it to another level
[18:33] But it would be wonderful if you could actually see what's really
[18:36] going on with this project.
[18:38] Yeah, I would love to see that.
[18:40] And all my life all the time that I've been here,
[18:42] everybody always said the community of Coatesville.
[18:45] But Coatesville is a village, historic village
[18:50] And you had some others that joined everyone.
[18:53] I introduced and everybody.
[19:00] Hello, everyone.
[19:01] Good afternoon.
[19:02] My name is Devin Williams and I'm
[19:04] the founder of the Country House project First,
[19:07] please forgive me for my tardiness.
[19:09] We've got to kind of schedule order.
[19:11] I have to go pick up the illustrious Cornelia somewhere.
[19:14] That's not why we're late.
[19:15] I'm just like.
[19:17] I just did target person sometimes.
[19:19] But I want to echo everything.
[19:21] And first, the hope.
[19:22] Thank you so much You're welcome.
[19:24] Thank you so much.
[19:26] So, Coatesville is the home place of my grandfather, Francis
[19:31] Williams, senior He raised a family in Washington, DC,
[19:36] but he was very, very proud of his album.
[19:38] Our county community village of Collinsville Oh,
[19:43] it left an indelible mark on the memories of soul.
[19:46] Many people don't even live here in Albemarle County All up
[19:51] and across the eastern seacoast is
[19:54] for people who descend from Collinsville
[19:58] who have this very vivid and palpable image and memory
[20:05] of Collinsville.
[20:06] And so what we celebrate with collinsville History Day
[20:09] is that memory.
[20:10] When a place no longer exists, how does memory celebration.
[20:15] Take the place of.
[20:17] And so that's what we're doing this coming Saturday.
[20:21] And every Saturday before fourth Sunday for here until eternity.
[20:26] And so we want to teach the young people
[20:28] to keep this tradition going.
[20:30] We want to make sure that this community knows
[20:32] that we are in vested and making sure that people can always
[20:38] have access to the story of Coatesville
[20:40] and not just the story that is covered only in the textbooks.
[20:44] But one that tells a fuller, broader picture.
[20:48] As Mr. Pruitt said about how not everyone with a famous last name
[20:54] can get some credit for the work that they've put
[20:57] into a community or a village.
[20:59] And so many members of Collinsville
[21:03] and those who disintegrate are Albemarle County.
[21:06] Many of the African Americans you find in Charlottesville
[21:09] later in the centuries are from Coatesville
[21:13] and they all make incredible contribution to this community,
[21:17] but they don't tell the story of coal.
[21:20] So they don't forget.
[21:21] They hold it in their hearts, but they move forward
[21:24] and they forge to other cities like New York.
[21:27] There are hundreds of Coatesville descendants
[21:30] in New York, Baltimore, D.C., all over Virginia, Richmond,
[21:34] in particular.
[21:35] And they hold that story.
[21:37] And so when we hosted calls for History Day last year,
[21:41] it was very evident that this community.
[21:44] Finally got an opportunity to have a platform
[21:47] to speak their truth, to tell stories
[21:50] to remember collectively, and the human and the human mind
[21:56] has no understanding of how important it
[21:58] is to share a collective past with someone else
[22:02] and see yourself in stories and in memories.
[22:06] And so this is what we do, and we have fun doing it too.
[22:10] So history.
[22:11] An amateur historian, but I like to have a good time.
[22:14] And so I know young people like to have a good time
[22:17] in this next generation.
[22:19] They want to see a digital future.
[22:21] And so that's what we're doing, trying to bring Kosovo
[22:23] into this next era with the history, with the genealogy,
[22:27] with the oral storytelling, the whole bit.
[22:29] So thank you so much for this honor today
[22:32] as well And we'll have supervisor missile bring
[22:34] the proclamation down while he's working.
[22:38] May I make one additional comment?
[22:39] And that is this reminds me of the Giving Word project
[22:43] that was inaugurated, first of all, on cello.
[22:46] But I was at the opening there.
[22:48] And the family members who went to the kiosk
[22:51] and learned things they had never known before.
[22:54] And then when it was moved to the on the Smithsonian Memorial
[22:58] Day you see when that museum opened,
[23:00] we had several bus loads of people who
[23:02] went up to participate in that.
[23:05] I just was so impacted by the feelings of the family
[23:09] members and the descendants and how important it was to them.
[23:12] And I'm really glad that you're doing this locally.
[23:14] That's terrific.
[23:15] Thank you.
[23:15] Thank you.
[23:16] Thank you very much.
[23:17] And these two things will be receiving.
[23:19] Thank you both.
[23:21] And just evidenced also, here's my call I think.
[23:24] And it's nice to be here.
[23:26] Good to meet you.
[23:28] So I know there's something they can
[23:30] do to help connect, communicate with to say one thing.
[23:36] Just make good afternoon, everybody
[23:42] I want you all to know I'm the chronicler of Albemarle County.
[23:46] I was office in Charlottesville and then became a city chair.
[23:50] But I remember the days when I was walking to downtown mall.
[23:54] Some of you might remember and others don't, that
[23:57] was an insurance company then that man name died in power.
[24:01] Every morning he'd come and he said, You all
[24:03] get back this cold milk is coming through.
[24:06] So come is really a special place.
[24:08] And that's where I got my start.
[24:10] Matter of fact, I was even a school bus driver
[24:13] for Albemarle County one time.
[24:14] So I kind of delivered the rail.
[24:16] So Albemarle can is really wonderful to see.
[24:21] Think.
[24:22] Thank you, Cheryl, You all right?
[24:27] We will move to item B under six.
[24:29] We have the Virginia Association of Counties achievement award
[24:32] we have with us Jeremy Bennett, the Vaiko
[24:35] director of Intergovernmental Affairs and we'll
[24:38] have some staff joining Mr. Bennett after his remarks.
[24:43] Yes, Well, thank you, Mr. Chair.
[24:45] Members of the board.
[24:46] Good afternoon.
[24:46] My name is Jeremy Bennett.
[24:47] I said Director of Governmental Affairs
[24:50] with the Virginia Association of Counties.
[24:52] It's my pleasure to be back in my former home
[24:55] county of Albemarle.
[24:56] And before I begin the presentation,
[24:58] just allow me to say what a privileges to follow
[25:00] the proclamation for Kosovo.
[25:02] I mean, recognizing that local history just
[25:05] shows how great Virginia is and, you know,
[25:07] great the local government can do that.
[25:09] But it is my distinct privilege today
[25:11] to present the Bako Achievement Awards
[25:13] all county and for the benefit of your constituents
[25:16] may not be familiar with the Virginia
[25:17] Association of Counties.
[25:19] Baker was it existed since 1934 to serve and support
[25:22] your efforts as county officials.
[25:24] We support counties in many ways versus through our advocacy
[25:28] efforts in the state legislature and the federal level.
[25:30] And we also serve counties through
[25:31] our educational programs, member services and communications
[25:34] efforts.
[25:35] And I'd be remiss of not recognizing
[25:37] Supervisor Malik, who is on the Baker Board of directors
[25:39] and a former Baker president But in 2003, we
[25:43] established our achievement award program
[25:45] to recognize counties that have adopted innovative approaches,
[25:48] providing public services and identifying programs
[25:50] that could serve as models for other counties to emulate.
[25:53] And today, I'm very proud to present Albemarle County one
[25:55] Achievement Award for the 44 program,
[25:58] and I know there will be folks who could speak more to it
[26:00] But just it's amazing to see the strategic vision of the county,
[26:04] that community engagement as you plan
[26:07] for smart growth in a very dynamic and growing community
[26:10] So this is very close.
[26:11] 24th Annual Achievement Awards program.
[26:15] And this year we received 103 entries,
[26:18] of which only 40 winners were selected from 26 counties.
[26:22] So as you can tell, is a truly competitive program
[26:24] is less than 40% of the entries were selected as winners.
[26:27] I was kind of a rock star of this program.
[26:31] You won the achievement awards 11 times already,
[26:34] and you're tied for 12th all time awards across
[26:37] the Commonwealth of Virginia.
[26:39] You won a achievement award four years in a row,
[26:42] five of the past Six years.
[26:44] And you want to achieve in one thing or another year of 2003
[26:48] and one awards since 2005 and 2000
[26:50] Eight, 16, 18, 21, 23, 24 and 25.
[26:54] So keep, keep, keep on rolling with the applications.
[26:56] You guys are really knocking it out of the park
[27:00] And when our judges were evaluating criteria,
[27:03] several the guidelines that they looked into,
[27:05] you know, winning and winning programs.
[27:07] What does a program offer?
[27:08] An innovative solution to a problem situation
[27:10] or deliver your services?
[27:11] Is does the program promote intergovernmental cooperation
[27:14] and is it a model that other local governments can look to
[27:17] and the ACA 44 definitely hits all those criteria.
[27:22] I believe that Tonya Swartz and Trooper James Wilkinson and then
[27:27] all might be here.
[27:28] And I would turn the I turn it over
[27:30] to them to talk a little bit more
[27:32] about the program, the subject matter experts
[27:34] and then present the award.
[27:35] And maybe get a picture that we could
[27:37] share with the rest of the membership
[27:39] at our annual conference this year right So unfortunately,
[27:49] Ben can be with us today.
[27:51] But I know you all have seen quite a bit of all three of us
[27:54] in the past year or two.
[27:56] I'm joined by James Wilkinson as well.
[27:59] So thank you to Vaiko for this honor on behalf of the County.
[28:04] I'm pleased to accept this achievement award for C 44.
[28:08] Our update to the county's comprehensive plan
[28:10] adopted just this past October.
[28:13] Albemarle expects to welcome 31,000 new resit events over
[28:18] the next 20 years.
[28:20] We set out to build a plan that was technically sound and shaped
[28:24] by the people who call our county
[28:26] home More than 2700 residents participated through 87
[28:31] public meetings, 39 questionnaires and tools
[28:36] like our TAC kits, which enabled neighbors
[28:39] to lead their own conversations and share their input with us.
[28:43] Today, our growth management policy continues to channel new
[28:47] development into just 5% of our growth area out
[28:51] of the county's land, while protecting 689mi² of rural area.
[28:58] For agricultural forestry and conservation Paired
[29:02] with our seven big moves that turn this 20 year vision
[29:06] into a near into near term priorities.
[29:09] 8044 gives us practical bridge between long range planning
[29:14] and everyday decision making.
[29:16] I'd like to thank our Board of Supervisors ERs and Planning
[29:18] Commission, our leadership Yep, our internal and external
[29:22] partners and above all, our residents
[29:25] whose voices are reflected on every page of AC 44.
[29:29] Looking forward.
[29:30] AC 44 Implementation is now in full swing
[29:34] across efforts that include zoning modernization
[29:37] and multi-modal transportation planning and activity center
[29:40] planning.
[29:41] Thank you again.
[29:42] To echo for this award Great.
[29:46] And I see people jumping in.
[29:48] We're going to have the chief Congratulations.
[29:57] Thank you.
[29:58] I appreciate and supervise there's
[30:00] any remarks supervisor of Mr. currently.
[30:02] Thank you for bringing this award to us,
[30:06] and thank you for all the work the staff has done frankly,
[30:12] to earn this at.
[30:14] I commend our staff for making our county truly one
[30:18] of excellence.
[30:19] In my opinion So thank you.
[30:22] And thank you, Jeremy, for coming.
[30:25] Supervisor Malik Thank you.
[30:27] Being old I can say that I first participated in the review
[30:31] in 1985, and the reason that I've
[30:33] been so strident about having community action on this
[30:39] is because of all the thousands of our predecessors
[30:41] who weighed in at every five year interval and all
[30:44] those different chapters all these years, who
[30:47] have built where we are today.
[30:48] And so sweeping it out and putting in something brand
[30:51] new was not honoring their effort as well.
[30:55] So I'm really pleased with where it turned out.
[30:57] I know it was a struggle and that's
[30:59] okay because things good things are hard to achieve.
[31:02] And I appreciate all of everybody's work.
[31:04] Thank you.
[31:05] Supervisor Duncan.
[31:07] Well, since I didn't participate in
[31:09] that, oh, I'm like super excited that, you know, I could.
[31:13] But no, it's a really great project.
[31:17] I was looking at the list of all the nominations and awards
[31:21] and there's a lot of things that the counties are doing,
[31:24] and I imagine deciding which ones are worth the awards is
[31:28] a lot of effort.
[31:30] So thank you to Vaiko for doing this.
[31:32] And also, I just stands out that, you
[31:34] know that it was an achievement and you know a lot of people
[31:37] participate voted and so it's nice kind of county award
[31:40] that you put in the work, and you
[31:43] can get a really good product supervisor prewitt,
[31:47] congratulations your at this was a really Herculean task
[31:53] that staff engaged with.
[31:54] I got to participate both as a member of the public
[31:59] and then as a supervisor for over a year in the same process,
[32:02] which is a fun experience.
[32:05] And I know i sometimes grouse that we are less politically
[32:11] engaged, popular, us and y'all.
[32:15] You all put in the work to make sure we got some engagement
[32:18] on this process.
[32:19] And I know that's not always easy.
[32:20] And required a lot of work from staff.
[32:23] So congratulate and very well deserved.
[32:25] I will also just add Mr. Bennett really
[32:28] is lauded on all these plaudits for Albemarle County
[32:32] But the thing I caught is that there's at least 11
[32:35] locality is that have won more awards than us.
[32:38] There.
[32:39] I don't really know how we change that,
[32:42] but I'm going to fight with the boards.
[32:45] I'm going to task, Mr. Richardson
[32:47] to make sure that we catch up.
[32:48] I want to be at least top five.
[32:50] I don't even know who's in the top five,
[32:52] but I want to be in the top five,
[32:56] make a motion We have to make a motion
[33:00] to up our game as we should be applying
[33:03] to every single category supervisor missile.
[33:06] Thank you.
[33:07] I congratulate lations.
[33:08] You said 87 public meetings.
[33:10] I mean, it's a Herculean effort, right?
[33:13] And so it's great to take time to celebrate
[33:16] and it's also great to start thinking ahead.
[33:18] Right.
[33:19] Looking forward to what this really means for the county.
[33:23] Also, super tricky trying to balance,
[33:25] you know economic development.
[33:27] Let's go.
[33:27] Let's get this moving and preserve our rural areas
[33:30] at the same time I mean, you were walking a line
[33:32] the whole time.
[33:33] You were doing it.
[33:34] So thank you.
[33:36] And thank Ben for me when you see him.
[33:38] Yeah, we appreciate you coming down to acknowledge our staff.
[33:41] I mean, you know, as I work through these kind of things
[33:44] you just expect that the process is the norm because that's
[33:47] how we're doing it, right?
[33:48] It's like.
[33:49] And I would imagine other places do a similar have
[33:51] a similar kind of reaction.
[33:53] But it's nice when somebody outside looking in.
[33:55] I identifies or acknowledges that know that process
[33:59] is a pretty good one.
[34:01] And it's one that others can look to.
[34:03] So you all should be very proud of the work that you
[34:05] that you did with that.
[34:06] And thankful to Vaiko for pointing that out And then
[34:09] like fashion those others that were winning awards
[34:12] as well, that we look there and go, okay, can we
[34:14] you know, the sign of award winners
[34:15] is that they're constantly looking around
[34:17] to figure out how to get better, which
[34:19] is probably part and parcel to winning
[34:21] some acknowledgment award.
[34:23] So look forward to continue you that kind of learning.
[34:26] So thank you very much for being with us today.
[34:29] And did you get your pictures for the little satisfy
[34:33] everything OK.
[34:34] Very good.
[34:34] Thank you very much.
[34:36] Thank you so much.
[34:37] You all have a good day.
[34:38] I'm going to join Stefan Carter Mountain before his actor Rich
[34:40] self.
[34:41] Thank you, Jerry Congratulations again.
[34:44] Thank you.
[34:45] OK.
[34:46] All right.
[34:47] Board our next item.
[34:48] See what I'm on this reluctant to have
[34:51] to do but it is a resolution of appreciation for Police Chief
[34:55] Shaun Reeves.
[34:57] And I'm going to take my prerogative as chair
[34:59] to read this proclamation in the form of a motion
[35:03] resolution of appreciation for Shawn Reeves.
[35:05] Whereas Colonel Shawn Reeves has completed more than 30 years
[35:09] of public service beginning as a military police
[35:12] officer in the United States Army from 1996 to 2000, one.
[35:16] And as a sworn lay in law enforcement officer
[35:19] in the Commonwealth of Virginia and.
[35:21] Whereas, Colonel Reeves has faithfully
[35:23] served the County of Albemarle for 25 years First joining
[35:27] the Albemarle County Police Department as a patrol
[35:30] officer in 2000, one, steadily advancing through several roles
[35:33] before being appointed chief of police in 2022.
[35:37] And.
[35:38] Whereas, during his time with CPD,
[35:41] Colonel Reeves played a pivotal role
[35:42] in several priority projects, including
[35:45] creating the Cyber Crimes Unit, developing a community coalition
[35:48] around mental health crisis response,
[35:51] advancing the body worn camera program,
[35:53] and serving as the lead AC PD representative on the county's
[35:57] incident management teams for Covid 19.
[36:00] The at ready statue removal and the events of August 12th.
[36:03] And.
[36:04] Whereas, Colonel Reeves provided leadership in key initiatives
[36:07] to ensure an effective response to mental health
[36:09] emergencies including launching the Human Services Alternative
[36:13] Response Team or Heart, which established the county's Cobra
[36:16] sponsor model for behavioral health crises Crises
[36:20] through collaboration among law enforcement.
[36:22] Fire Rescue. fire and social service professionals
[36:25] and opening into crises.
[36:27] Innovate prevention Team Assessment Center
[36:30] and partnership with Region ten.
[36:32] And.
[36:32] Whereas, Colonel Reeves championed
[36:34] the safety of our community through initiatives
[36:36] such as Rescue Task Force Training,
[36:38] building relationship ups with local and statewide public
[36:41] safety partners, participating in the Project Safe Neighborhood
[36:45] Partnership and Training Officers,
[36:47] and the use of Narcan in the field, which resulted
[36:49] in dozens of lives saved.
[36:51] And.
[36:52] Whereas, During his tenure as Chief of police,
[36:54] Colonel Reeves modernized law enforcement practices
[36:57] to meet the needs of a growing community,
[36:59] he championed initiatives to attract and retain high quality
[37:03] police officers His updated departmental policies
[37:06] and procedures to improve service delivery
[37:09] and establishment employee mental and physical
[37:11] wellness program to ensure ACP officers have access
[37:15] to the resource they need to effectively respond
[37:18] to calls for service and sustain long term
[37:21] careers in law enforcement.
[37:22] Now, therefore be it.
[37:24] Resolved by the Albemarle County Board of Supervisors
[37:26] that Colonel Shawn reeves is hereby honored
[37:29] and commended for his many years of exceptional service
[37:32] to the County of Albemarle.
[37:33] The Albemarle County Police Department,
[37:35] Albemarle County residents, the broader community in which we
[37:39] live, and the entire Commonwealth of Virginia with
[37:42] knowledge that Albemarle County is strengthened
[37:44] and distinguished by Colonel Reeves dedication commitment,
[37:48] professionalism and compassion in meeting community needs
[37:52] and be it further resolved that a copy of this resolution be
[37:55] spread upon the minutes of this meeting of the Alabama County
[37:57] Board of Supervisors as a lasting,
[38:00] visible testament to the esteem in which Colonel Reeves is held
[38:03] by this board and previous for its for his lasting legacy
[38:06] of community service and the tangible results from his work
[38:10] to make Albemarle County better for future generations Signed
[38:13] this 19th day of August 2026, second rate.
[38:17] The motion has been made and seconded without objection
[38:20] if the clerk will please call the roll.
[38:21] Mr. Galloway.
[38:22] Yes, Mr. Curtly.
[38:24] I miss Malik.
[38:26] Yes.
[38:27] Mr. Missal.
[38:27] Hi, Mr. Pruitt Hi, Ms..
[38:30] Duncan.
[38:31] Yes.
[38:32] And Chief would love to have you join us for some remarks.
[38:37] Mr. Richardson, do you want to make any remarks as the chief is
[38:40] coming forward?
[38:42] Mr. Chair, thank you.
[38:43] This organization yesterday enjoyed a wonderful opportunity
[38:47] to spend some time with Sean and his family,
[38:50] as well as the Moore County Police
[38:52] Department, some retired special guest who were here yesterday
[38:57] celebrating Shawn.
[38:59] And so we tell folks that were there yesterday
[39:02] that today would be another opportunity at the board.
[39:05] A superb officers level in a public meeting
[39:09] to thank our six police chief since the inception
[39:14] of our police department in 1984 for his service
[39:17] to not just this county, but to our nation
[39:20] and to celebrate a wonderful full service
[39:24] retirement and 30 years of service to our United States.
[39:28] The state of Virginia and Albemarle County.
[39:31] So with that, Mr. Chair, I'll turn it back over to you.
[39:34] And thank you to the board members
[39:35] who were able to come yesterday and thank you for the board's
[39:38] attention to this today.
[39:39] And Chief, we would love it If you made some remarks
[39:42] and then we're going to talk about you to you have here done.
[39:46] Thank you, Chair Galloway and members
[39:47] of the board for the kind remarks
[39:49] on both humbled and honored today,
[39:52] I am joined by my beautiful wife, Christina Reeves, and also
[39:57] the acting chief of police.
[39:59] Now Major range Jamison, as well as people from our team.
[40:03] Everything that you've listed those accomplishments
[40:06] and achievement of the would not have
[40:10] been possible, quite frankly, without the support
[40:13] from across the organization without the work of the men
[40:17] and women, the Elmore County Police Department,
[40:19] my job was easy as providing vision and direction.
[40:21] It is people like Major Jamerson Officer Carson
[40:25] members, my command staff that really pushed those initiatives
[40:29] forward, even though I realize that i joke with Mr. Henry
[40:34] that Deputy County Executive, the cops hit two things.
[40:38] They hate change.
[40:39] They hate the way things are so knowing that and still managing
[40:45] to execute change leadership.
[40:48] And the past four and a half years, it
[40:51] truly has been my honor and privilege
[40:53] to serve this county as the chief of police.
[40:55] And then looking back, as Richard Richardson says
[40:58] for 25 years and serving and our police department
[41:01] served this community.
[41:03] For more than half of the police department's entire existence,
[41:06] it really hits home with me.
[41:09] And I have full faith and confidence
[41:11] that our police department is in great hands.
[41:14] We're we're headed in the right direction.
[41:16] Absolutely.
[41:17] With the help of Christy Shiflett and her team.
[41:21] But more importantly, the deputy county executive,
[41:23] Mr. Trevor Henry.
[41:25] And for Jeff Richardson's leadership,
[41:28] Jeff, really in Trevor both push me
[41:33] and challenged me to get out of my comfort zone
[41:36] and be a better leader and a better person that ultimately
[41:39] made me a better chief of police.
[41:41] And for that I'll always be grateful.
[41:43] So thank you, gentlemen, and thank you
[41:45] to this board for your unwavering support through some
[41:48] of the most difficult times in law enforcement
[41:50] that we've had in the past decade.
[41:53] In my senior leadership, through a global pandemic,
[41:56] through the Unite the Right rally, through the KKK rallies,
[41:59] even though the that does happen in the city of Charlottesville,
[42:02] our jurisdiction, as you know, it
[42:04] was sucked directly into those of the statue removal
[42:07] being the first jurisdiction to legally remove
[42:09] a statue during that time in our in our state's history.
[42:14] And being part of that plus other significant major criminal
[42:18] investigations.
[42:19] It's really been my honor and privilege
[42:22] to serve this community.
[42:23] And I thank you all for your support and continued support
[42:28] and take care.
[42:30] And you will be missed.
[42:32] Yes.
[42:33] Supervisor of pistol, currently, you know,
[42:37] this is going to be hard for me.
[42:39] I will get through it.
[42:42] You have been a steady and committed dude.
[42:46] You have person in the police department
[42:50] that has shown progress Star community
[42:52] and you've continued to go forward.
[42:54] I'm just going to mention a few things
[42:57] that I think will resonate with our resident.
[43:00] Your collaborator should with the fire department
[43:03] has been extraordinary because it shows everybody.
[43:07] We're all on one team and we support you.
[43:11] And they look up to us, by the way.
[43:13] And they look up to the police department.
[43:15] So that helps.
[43:16] Of course, we look up to the police.
[43:18] They look up to the police department.
[43:20] Yeah, I'm going to catch heck for that.
[43:22] You know the body worn cameras shows that our community is
[43:29] you're showing transparency is showing what we can do.
[43:33] So that people, our community will trust us.
[43:38] That's extremely important.
[43:39] The hearts team shows innovation.
[43:42] And it shows you care because we're looking at helping people
[43:46] in a little bit different way.
[43:49] Cyber crimes, I think we're going
[43:51] to see that very, very busy every single year that that's
[43:56] really going to be right up there.
[44:00] But on a personal level, you can't live on a personal level,
[44:06] you have shown to be a remarkable leader
[44:10] and to command everybody and to move move progress in such a way
[44:17] that it wasn't a knee jerk reaction.
[44:19] It was well thought out.
[44:21] It was well presented, and it was well received.
[44:24] You've you've helped us, the police department,
[44:27] in so many areas to become a better community And for that.
[44:32] I'll always be thankful and grateful.
[44:34] Thank you.
[44:34] Thank you.
[44:35] And if I may, sir, I'd be remiss if I
[44:38] didn't recognize Mr. Academic.
[44:40] When we talk about the heart team prior to her arrival,
[44:44] all I did was get vision, direction and start
[44:46] planting those seeds.
[44:47] It was it was all khaki that really took the leadership role
[44:51] and got it across the goal line.
[44:53] So I didn't want to stand here and take all the credit
[44:57] for that.
[44:57] When it was kalki back here that did a lot of the work.
[45:01] So I know that.
[45:02] But I was waiting for Cathy retires
[45:03] to mention supervisor Malik Thank you,
[45:09] Sean and to all your department.
[45:11] And I'm talking a lot about my childhood today, which
[45:15] is surprising considering.
[45:16] But way back in the 50s, we had about 20,000 residents and one
[45:21] chair and he sat at the corner of Birch Road,
[45:24] and Tina Lane and waited for a call because where else would
[45:27] you go to be able to go in all those different directions
[45:29] and while previously ship prevented connections
[45:34] of officers on patrol with their constituents,
[45:38] community policing has brought this whole new world to us here
[45:42] and returned us basically to the old the old version,
[45:46] but brought our department to be a true anchor in our community.
[45:51] I am so proud of the way the department has evolved
[45:54] over the last 19 years, and I recognize
[45:56] that that was a dramatic change that you all managed.
[45:59] I know you mentioned officers don't generally like change of,
[46:03] but there were staff who walked away
[46:06] But to the tremendous credit to all who stayed,
[46:10] we are so proud of what you have achieved.
[46:12] Leaders such of you as you have guided all those successes.
[46:16] Congratulations and thank you.
[46:19] Thank them.
[46:20] Supervisor Duncan in the short time
[46:25] that I have gone to kind of interact with you,
[46:27] I've been very impressed.
[46:28] And so, you know, everything that everyone
[46:31] is saying rings true So thank you for your service.
[46:34] And I did also just want to highlight you know,
[46:36] the one thing that I'm really happy that we have is the heart
[46:40] team and sort of having the vision for it,
[46:44] but also being willing to work with Cathy
[46:47] and willing to work with another department to do this
[46:51] Not not everyone would do that.
[46:54] Not every police chief is willing to do that.
[46:56] And so I really appreciate your effort in doing that.
[46:59] And the collaboration, because I think it's
[47:01] really important that we have that.
[47:03] And again, if I may, that's a testament
[47:05] to Mr. Richardson in the culture that he
[47:08] set in this county in his expectation
[47:10] is that as leaders that we work together, collaborate to problem
[47:13] solve.
[47:14] So I appreciate the acknowledgment
[47:17] but that that speaks volumes.
[47:19] It's not just me.
[47:20] You could any department head could be up here
[47:22] and they would do the same thing.
[47:23] And collaborate cooperate with one another.
[47:26] So thank you.
[47:28] Supervisor Pruitt, thank you so much for your years of service
[47:33] to this to this county.
[47:36] We have been through a period of a lot of change
[47:38] as a county over the last several decades.
[47:41] We've grown significantly.
[47:42] And what we look like has changed a lot.
[47:45] There's been a lot of changes as a country during that same time.
[47:49] And unsurprisingly, like the Air Force and what
[47:53] we expect out of police and the role
[47:55] of police in our jurisdiction has changed a lot.
[47:58] And so much of that has been under your leadership really,
[48:02] really dramatic changes in how we respond to and engage
[48:07] with issues of mental health that you've led,
[48:10] how we respond and engage with public unrest, how
[48:15] we work with and don't work with,
[48:18] sometimes challenging relationships
[48:20] with state and federal partners.
[48:24] You have led a really steady shift through that period
[48:28] and this is also a period.
[48:31] It's not lost on me right where police and elected officials
[48:35] are often at loggerheads in a lot of jurisdictions.
[48:39] And that's especially true to put the Tiger
[48:41] on the table of jurisdictions that
[48:43] are led by Democrats during the last several years.
[48:47] And that, at least during my service on the board,
[48:49] has not been the case.
[48:51] And I think some of that is this board being
[48:54] on the same level as you on in lockstep with your best self.
[48:58] That's a two way street.
[48:59] And I'm so grateful to have had the partnership of a police
[49:03] department where I feel like we all
[49:05] have a shared vision of how to protect and serve
[49:09] this community.
[49:10] And I'm very grateful for that.
[49:12] And I'm also going to share a dumb, embarrassing story, which
[49:17] I think is appropriate on the moment of your retirement
[49:21] The first time we, you and I met embarrassingly late,
[49:25] I had already been elected.
[49:26] And my apologies and I had not met you or actually
[49:30] seen you before.
[49:31] And when I met you, I this is a very inappropriate response.
[49:37] And I regret it.
[49:37] But I said, wow, you're the chief of police here.
[49:41] You're very young to be the chief of police is what I said.
[49:44] Could control myself the First thing out of my mouth.
[49:47] And, like, sir, I've been in law enforcement for over 25 years.
[49:51] I've years old.
[49:53] To which I said that hot damn double congratulations.
[49:56] I wouldn't have guessed that this
[50:00] is all just to say you're now going to go to him and say,
[50:03] I'm a retired Third career law enforcement officer,
[50:06] and so many other people are going to say, How dare you?
[50:09] So young Thank you, sir.
[50:13] Thank you for that.
[50:14] And I really appreciate, again, the support and the recognition
[50:18] for the trials, tribulations that our police officers have
[50:23] gone through and recognizing the political, political climate
[50:28] and just understanding with respect
[50:30] to our elected officials, it is imperative.
[50:33] And that is one thing that, again,
[50:35] that I believe in as chief of police, as a chief of police
[50:39] unlike elected officials, we have to be apolitical.
[50:42] We serve our community.
[50:43] We're public service just like every other part of it,
[50:45] but especially so it that we don't take political sides.
[50:50] We force the laws as they are, not as they should be.
[50:54] And we're tasked with uphold the Constitution
[50:56] And I think that that is impaired live as a chief
[51:00] and as officers that we remember that.
[51:04] Supervisor Menzel thank you I have a couple of observations.
[51:08] And I think one, regret I'll start with the regret
[51:11] and that is that I haven't had an opportunity to really work
[51:14] with you for very long, and I would
[51:16] have liked that a great deal.
[51:19] Second observation is 30 years of service.
[51:22] I didn't realize you could start in this business
[51:24] when you were ten, she recalls her first comment.
[51:29] The other is that as I've been listening to you,
[51:31] you spent almost your entire time
[51:33] deflecting praise and sharing it and pointing to others
[51:38] and away from yourself and to me that
[51:42] rises to the top of the most the strongest characteristic
[51:46] of a true great leader.
[51:49] So congratulations and looking forward to next steps for you.
[51:52] Thank you, sir.
[51:54] Yeah, I echo both your too young and to the the the
[51:58] marks and the signs of good leadership.
[52:00] You know I have a gratitude for you and the service you've done.
[52:04] I think the thing that is unusual for anybody
[52:07] in any organization these days is the fact that you went
[52:10] from patrol officer to chief in one organization,
[52:13] and that's remarkable, especially in this time.
[52:15] And but I think the unique thing, in addition
[52:20] to the remarks that have been made, is that I think now is
[52:25] and I've held chiefs, you and those who come
[52:28] before you in very high regard.
[52:30] But now moving forward, you have kind of
[52:33] helped us shape the mold of what we want our chief to be.
[52:35] And out Mercer County, because of the things that
[52:38] have been mentioned, we share an idea
[52:40] and a sense of how policing should happen in our county.
[52:43] We've been on the same page.
[52:44] We have found different things to put in place
[52:46] that kind of back up what that philosophy or that approach is.
[52:50] But you know, the person that solidify it and truly
[52:55] molded it together has been you and the leadership
[52:57] that you've had.
[52:57] So I think that's something that you
[52:59] should be incredibly proud of and know that every chief that
[53:03] comes after you is going to be judged
[53:05] against what you have molded for this position here in Albemarle.
[53:08] And I think that's something you should be very proud of.
[53:10] So with that, in joining with all the remarks
[53:13] that have been said, I just again,
[53:14] on behalf of the Board of Supervisors in the county,
[53:17] we all appreciate what you have done
[53:18] for all the residents of the county,
[53:20] knowing that we're a better place.
[53:22] And a better community because of all of your service.
[53:24] So thank you much, Shawn, and enjoy your retirement.
[53:27] Well, our remarks thank you for Well, I
[53:52] can think about a number of safe travels All right.
[54:15] Thank you.
[54:16] Board.
[54:18] See if we can get caught up on some time in.
[54:22] But we have public.
[54:23] Our next item is item seven public comment
[54:27] matters previously considered are currently
[54:29] pending before the board other than scheduled
[54:31] for public hearing.
[54:32] We have no one signed up, so we will move to item number
[54:35] eight, which is our consent agenda And I did.
[54:39] I'm not aware of anything that needs to be
[54:41] pulled from that from consent.
[54:43] Are there any items, is there a motion
[54:46] to adopt the consent agenda?
[54:48] Some of the second.
[54:49] All right.
[54:50] The motion has been made and seconded.
[54:52] Without objection, the clerk will please call the roll
[54:55] Mr. Galloway?
[54:56] Yes.
[54:56] You.
[54:57] So currently I miss Malik.
[54:58] Yes, Mr. Missal.
[54:59] All right, Mr. Pruitt.
[55:01] I miss Duncan.
[55:02] Yes.
[55:03] All right The consent agenda is approved.
[55:05] Thank you.
[55:06] And that will take us to item, not
[55:08] look at our four minutes ahead of schedule on item number nine,
[55:11] Affordable rental housing incentive program
[55:13] requested on Fifth.
[55:15] And our director of housing, Stacey
[55:18] Peth the MIC Jacob joining as well.
[55:20] It kalki move into the front row Good afternoon Good afternoon.
[55:42] I think i have this close enough to my mouth today.
[55:45] I'm Stacey, the director of housing and i'm
[55:48] here with Jacob Sumner, the Chief financial chief
[55:52] finance Officer.
[55:54] And we are here to please rent the affordable rental housing
[55:58] Incentive program incentive request for the attain
[56:00] on Fifth project.
[56:02] I would like to note that you will
[56:05] see that tenant fifth will be coming back to you
[56:09] later this evening.
[56:10] So this agenda item right now is solely
[56:12] focused on the incentive program I think it is not the Affordable
[56:25] rental housing incentive program,
[56:27] otherwise known as our hip, because that's easier
[56:30] to say was approved by the board in February of Two, 2024.
[56:35] And it really implements Appendix 8.2 of the County
[56:39] Code of Ordinances and Appendix 8.2
[56:43] is the ordinance that allows the county
[56:46] to provide grants or loans to developers
[56:48] for the construction of affordable housing projects
[56:53] that are eligible for a grant through the incentive program.
[56:57] The amount of the incentive would
[56:59] be equal to 15% of the total taxes paid
[57:02] on the property each year for a total of 30 years
[57:08] to be eligible for.
[57:10] And I hope incentive construction
[57:12] of new affordable rental units must
[57:14] be included in the project The project must contain at least
[57:18] 11 residential units to make it really
[57:21] financial feasible for developers to take advantage
[57:24] of this project.
[57:25] Must be located in Albemarle County.
[57:27] Specific Lee Within the development areas with options
[57:31] to move outside of that, if appropriate.
[57:34] The applicant must own or control the project site
[57:38] and have an approved rezoning of the project site.
[57:40] If that is applicable to that project And at least
[57:43] 20% of the total rental units on the property
[57:46] should be affordable at or below 60% of area.
[57:49] Median income There is an opportunity
[57:53] for projects that fall outside of those program parameters
[57:58] to become eligible for incentive,
[58:00] and those are early looked at on a case by case basis.
[58:05] And this would be one of those cases the RFP application
[58:10] process is non-competitive and applications
[58:13] are accepted on a rolling basis throughout the year.
[58:16] Those applications once received and reviewed
[58:19] by the Department of Finance and Budget and Housing Office
[58:22] staff for program compliance.
[58:24] The project budget provide it with the application
[58:28] must demonstrate that the affordable Unitech
[58:30] Construction would not be feasible without the incentive
[58:33] grant and as always, the incentive is approved
[58:37] by the board specifically for the Maintain on Fifth project.
[58:41] This would apply to phase Two of A on Fifth project
[58:46] and attain on Fifth is what it was formerly known as Capsular
[58:50] Crossing this specific Phase two project proposes
[58:53] to construct an additional 165 rental units
[58:57] throughout the property for a total of 309 units
[59:01] a total of 62 or 20% of those 309 units
[59:05] would be provided as affordable housing
[59:07] and broken into two to affordability levels.
[59:11] 10% or 31% of 31 units would be provided at 60% of AMI.
[59:16] With the addition of the other half of those 31 units provided
[59:20] at 80% AMI all affordability periods would last for 30 years.
[59:25] The units therefore opposed include a 22 bedroom
[59:29] two bath units and 42 three bedroom, three bathroom units.
[59:33] It's important to note that through this larger
[59:35] three bedroom sized units are just not a lot of that.
[59:40] Their size units in the county.
[59:41] It's difficult for families of any income level to find them,
[59:45] particularly those with below median income.
[59:54] The unhip incentive if approved, would
[59:57] be approximately $5 million over the 30 year compliance period.
[1:00:02] And if the board approves the incentive then
[1:00:06] a performance agreement would be drafted
[1:00:09] that would include the terms of the grant, the annual grants
[1:00:12] amount that is estimated to be paid out timeline
[1:00:15] for those payments, the total affordability period, as well as
[1:00:19] reporting and compliance requirements
[1:00:23] So we want to open it up to the board for any questions.
[1:00:26] Again, Mr. Sumner is here to answer
[1:00:28] any of the financial side.
[1:00:30] It's like here mr. Sutton is here to answer those.
[1:00:33] Supervisor.
[1:00:34] Mr. Curtly Yes.
[1:00:35] Could you please go back to page five?
[1:00:39] I think that's it.
[1:00:40] No wrong.
[1:00:42] OK out of the 309 units, I know they're
[1:00:46] constructing an additional 165 new rental units.
[1:00:49] Correct?
[1:00:50] That's correct.
[1:00:51] But the entire 309 units, they're all rentals, Correct.
[1:00:55] Will all be rentals.
[1:00:57] The what we're offering the incentive program?
[1:00:59] Well, they cover the Affordable units of the $165.
[1:01:07] Or will they be dispersed throughout the entire 309?
[1:01:11] Or would they be able to land?
[1:01:13] The 309?
[1:01:14] Are there all section?
[1:01:16] I believe at the moment, they would most of them would
[1:01:19] be in the old section.
[1:01:21] So the existing units are there.
[1:01:23] So we're paying in an incentive to refer basically.
[1:01:26] Yes.
[1:01:27] So most of them will be in the existing units.
[1:01:31] There will be some in the new units,
[1:01:34] but due to the income that will be lost,
[1:01:37] providing those lower rents even in the existing units, that's
[1:01:40] what this incentive allows.
[1:01:41] OK.
[1:01:42] Thank you.
[1:01:42] No other questions.
[1:01:43] Supervised are Malik.
[1:01:45] Thank you.
[1:01:46] So when I was reading the packet the first time there
[1:01:50] seemed to be a discrepancy about the new units
[1:01:53] versus the affordable units versus the entire property.
[1:01:56] But I understand the rebate is based
[1:01:58] upon the value of the entire property.
[1:02:01] Yes, ma'am.
[1:02:02] And yet we're immediately giving up half of the below the 60% AMI
[1:02:08] and below right off the bat So I'm concerned about that.
[1:02:14] So that's I don't really have a question.
[1:02:16] I just think that we're giving up
[1:02:19] on the first day of making an achievement of what
[1:02:23] we should be getting.
[1:02:25] Thank you.
[1:02:27] Supervisor Duncan is this only the second application we've
[1:02:33] had that's using the R correct Do
[1:02:40] you know if we have more applications using
[1:02:42] this in the pipeline?
[1:02:44] I believe I just received an email about one,
[1:02:47] but I haven't had a chance.
[1:02:49] Literally.
[1:02:49] Right before we got up here.
[1:02:51] So just potentially one.
[1:02:53] Yes.
[1:02:53] So far i have some sort of curious if kind of big picture,
[1:03:00] if this is working or if we should make adjustments
[1:03:05] at some point to how this is working or not
[1:03:09] getting applications.
[1:03:10] But that's all I have.
[1:03:11] I'm Supervisor Pruitt I'd begin by echoing kind of actually
[1:03:19] both the two previous comments because they,
[1:03:21] you know they have different normative flavors,
[1:03:24] but they got at the same issue, which is up.
[1:03:27] I would continue to share whether or not
[1:03:29] this is a program that has been appropriately calibrated
[1:03:33] to the current economic moment.
[1:03:35] If the first for profit that we've had
[1:03:39] come before us trying very hard and with a property that they
[1:03:46] got at a bargain, still is not able to fully come
[1:03:51] into accordance with our expectation.
[1:03:55] That indicates, I think, a flaw in our design
[1:03:58] of the program that it is this challenging and they've made.
[1:04:03] I would say, very good try at trying
[1:04:05] to comply with our standards Also, we're, I
[1:04:12] think in real time kind of figuring out
[1:04:14] the speed bumps of how we're going to implement this.
[1:04:17] This is almost more of an internal thing here.
[1:04:20] But I think there's a sequencing problem here with the agenda
[1:04:24] as I'm looking at it and experiencing this as a board
[1:04:28] member, because there is an exchange of things of value
[1:04:33] that is happening with our hip and also
[1:04:36] with the final approval itself related to proffers
[1:04:39] of those things of value.
[1:04:43] All speak to one another, right?
[1:04:45] Money is fungible, units are convertible into money, which
[1:04:48] is fungible, but we're making a decision on one part
[1:04:52] before the rest of it even comes to us.
[1:04:55] And frankly, a lot of the I think,
[1:04:57] more substantive discussion we're going to have on finance
[1:05:00] is related to the project And that scope
[1:05:04] of benefits to the community and benefits to the company
[1:05:08] is going to happen in the latter half.
[1:05:10] But we're kind of backing ourselves
[1:05:11] into a potential decision in the first half
[1:05:15] with the decision on our hip.
[1:05:17] So I will just observe that i know
[1:05:22] how I feel about this project.
[1:05:23] But if I didn't, this would be very frustrating for me,
[1:05:26] for it to come before me in this broken
[1:05:28] out part and with a kind of dispositive element.
[1:05:32] Earlier in the meeting, before we had an opportunity
[1:05:34] to substantively engage with the rest of it,
[1:05:37] it feels like those need to walk a little closer together
[1:05:40] in the same way we might have like necessary variances come
[1:05:45] immediately after a zoning decision right?
[1:05:48] Steep slope requirements, which we have for this.
[1:05:51] Come immediately after zoning decision.
[1:05:52] Those feel married in a way to the zoning decision
[1:05:56] that this also feels like it needs to be married up
[1:06:00] and it's not currently, which again,
[1:06:03] I'm very familiar with this project.
[1:06:05] So in this instant moment it is not a crisis for me.
[1:06:09] But if this was a more controversial project
[1:06:11] that I didn't know anything about,
[1:06:12] I this would be a very hard thing to come before me first.
[1:06:16] Sorry, belabored that point a little I think there is also
[1:06:25] this is maybe a bit of a I was recently
[1:06:29] trying to remind myself that I was correctly
[1:06:32] remembering the exact criteria of this program.
[1:06:36] This board probably.
[1:06:37] Secondly, saying this.
[1:06:38] I found it hard to find our own policies on it
[1:06:40] and i know when I first sat down with the applicant,
[1:06:44] they had had a hard time finding the exact policies of it,
[1:06:47] and I had to, from memory, having voted on it, lay it out,
[1:06:53] which is not a great position.
[1:06:56] And particularly the thing that two previous supervisors
[1:06:59] mentioned is a thing that I don't think we are advertising.
[1:07:05] Well, which is that the affordability requirement
[1:07:13] applies to newly created units.
[1:07:16] So that is the unit of analysis is newly created
[1:07:19] for how 20% of that being newly being affordable while the tax
[1:07:26] credit applies to total project value.
[1:07:30] So there are two separate scopes of analysis.
[1:07:33] The creation of affordability requirement
[1:07:36] is only analyzing new units in a read of,
[1:07:39] whereas the tax benefit is analyzing
[1:07:42] the entirety of the project that is, that is not intuitive
[1:07:47] that that would be how that would work.
[1:07:49] And I'm not sure.
[1:07:51] I'm not sure that's a part But especially
[1:07:54] if you're not someone who very steeped in our local zoning
[1:07:58] culture.
[1:07:59] And this kind of goes into the general thing
[1:08:02] I've expressed worry about is that you shouldn't need
[1:08:05] to be steeped in local zoning culture
[1:08:08] to be able to successfully apply like it is.
[1:08:12] It is great for Williams and Mullen,
[1:08:14] and they get the business of being
[1:08:15] the experts who you have to come to, to, to get things through.
[1:08:19] And I hate that I'm trying to maybe harm their bottom line
[1:08:23] on this, but it should be relatively easy to figure out
[1:08:26] what the rules are.
[1:08:27] Are And I worry that it's not an you
[1:08:30] need to partner with these experts or be one of the people
[1:08:32] already in the developer pool.
[1:08:36] That being said I think if the applicant had the opportunity
[1:08:39] to present at this another just procedural thing,
[1:08:42] I don't think we have an opportunity for the applicant
[1:08:44] to present on this for no.
[1:08:47] And again, we're deciding it first.
[1:08:49] If the applicant had the opportunity to present on this,
[1:08:53] I'm sure they would make a good explanation of the challenges
[1:09:01] in fully complying with our with our requirement on this.
[1:09:05] And they have come quite close.
[1:09:07] They got to the spirit of doing 20%.
[1:09:11] And so I am comfortable knowing that they
[1:09:15] did their homework trying to deliver what we've
[1:09:18] identified as being of value.
[1:09:20] I'm comfortable looking aside that requirement
[1:09:24] that we've implemented in approving this.
[1:09:27] Thank you.
[1:09:27] And I appreciate having the opportunity to kind of lay out
[1:09:32] these concerns.
[1:09:33] I have.
[1:09:34] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[1:09:36] If you could just clarify something for the board.
[1:09:38] I just want to clarify that the affordability application that's
[1:09:41] before the board right now.
[1:09:42] And then the rezoning applications for this evening
[1:09:44] are independent, that a decision today does not
[1:09:47] obligate the board in terms of its zoning decisions.
[1:09:49] This evening, nor does the zoning decision
[1:09:51] to see this evening obligate the board on anything
[1:09:53] regarding the affordability incentives before the board.
[1:09:56] At the moment that is well taken.
[1:09:58] I realize I said that they.
[1:10:00] But they are in play each other.
[1:10:02] I i in practice feel like they heavily speak to one another,
[1:10:07] but of course formally they don't.
[1:10:09] Supervisor Missal.
[1:10:11] Yeah.
[1:10:12] Thanks very much.
[1:10:14] So I've had the opportunity probably like Supervisor
[1:10:17] or other supervisors to have seen
[1:10:18] this and other areas and other venues
[1:10:20] and appreciate the vision and the design
[1:10:24] and the goals for the development You know,
[1:10:29] the more we do these things as our second one, the better we're
[1:10:32] going to get at it.
[1:10:34] And maybe the next time the sequencing changes a little bit.
[1:10:37] Or there's a different approach to how we learn about it, I also
[1:10:43] have been thinking about that sequencing
[1:10:45] a fair amount because I want to ask the applicant questions
[1:10:48] and, and it feels like that might inform that.
[1:10:51] But on the flip side is if we don't agree to this, if we
[1:10:55] don't move forward with this, they don't have a project.
[1:10:57] And so they're going to have to go back to the drawing board
[1:11:00] and they're going to have to figure this
[1:11:01] out and do a whole different pro forma and capital stack.
[1:11:05] So it's a chicken and egg thing kind of.
[1:11:09] And I think that, you know, if we do support this,
[1:11:13] they'll be able to move forward as planned
[1:11:15] and as they will likely present to us later today.
[1:11:18] I also know that.
[1:11:20] And having worked on this and learned so much
[1:11:23] about this over the last few years.
[1:11:26] We need every possible source of funds
[1:11:29] to make affordable housing reality
[1:11:32] a reality in this community.
[1:11:33] We all know that.
[1:11:35] I think maybe Chair Galway mentioned that the other day.
[1:11:37] In one of our other meetings we were
[1:11:39] talking about how we need to do everything we
[1:11:42] can to leverage every avenue.
[1:11:44] And this is one of those avenues that we
[1:11:47] can leverage It also just ticks the box in other ways.
[1:11:53] So I know this is independent of the zoning, but it's hard for me
[1:11:56] to separate a project from its funding source
[1:12:00] because without one, it's the other was not a reality.
[1:12:03] But I just the way this has been designed
[1:12:05] and the infill that we're going to be seeing and seeing later
[1:12:08] in the use of this and the reuse of this and the approval
[1:12:10] in in terms of quality of life I think that this development will
[1:12:16] bring and the reasonable approach to parking, etc., etc.,
[1:12:20] are things that we can learn from that will help affordable
[1:12:23] housing come to the community as well.
[1:12:25] So it's multilayered to me.
[1:12:26] So that's all I guess I was supposed to ask questions,
[1:12:28] none of that was a question Sorry,
[1:12:32] anybody asked the question.
[1:12:33] So I don't you know what?
[1:12:35] I'm so well ask them.
[1:12:36] You supposed to ask.
[1:12:37] No, no.
[1:12:38] I've written down since it was my turn.
[1:12:39] I'll come back later You go ahead of me.
[1:12:44] Well, I'll.
[1:12:45] A few comments based on some of the comments that
[1:12:47] have been made as my involvement with the creation
[1:12:51] of this incentive program was pretty on at the point.
[1:12:54] And so I feel like I have a good memory of why things are
[1:12:59] in place that they are given.
[1:13:02] When we passed it first, the sequencing.
[1:13:05] OK.
[1:13:06] Today, you know when it was discussed,
[1:13:08] when we put this into place, I don't
[1:13:10] know that we ever foresaw that we
[1:13:11] would be making a decision on the incentive
[1:13:13] and then having a zoning question on the same day.
[1:13:16] But we did very clearly because of what
[1:13:19] we heard from developed the developer and community
[1:13:21] and applicants was that if we don't know,
[1:13:24] we're going to get the incentive to keep your point about
[1:13:27] or changes the pro forma, they need
[1:13:29] to know that before they go through the whole rezoning
[1:13:31] process.
[1:13:32] And that was an I agree.
[1:13:34] That's reasonable.
[1:13:35] If I'm not getting it, then that may change the whole way
[1:13:39] or even putting the application in.
[1:13:41] I'd rather know that before I put the application.
[1:13:45] And then proceeding through everything.
[1:13:47] So the board was the one that when
[1:13:50] we passed the incentive back in February, what, four years ago
[1:13:55] that said, we have to come up with the process of how
[1:13:58] to get the incentive question in front of us
[1:13:59] and say, oh, we can decide that.
[1:14:02] And this is only the second the second one.
[1:14:04] So there can be commentary on the process.
[1:14:07] Yes, because that's how we're going to learn and get better
[1:14:09] if we continue to do the program But I don't want
[1:14:12] I don't want to make it.
[1:14:14] Because at one point, we felt like the incentive would
[1:14:17] be made after the rezoning.
[1:14:18] Well, that that's kind of backwards.
[1:14:20] And how this stuff works because you're also
[1:14:22] going and finding all the other things that you
[1:14:24] need to find out to see if you can make a project work.
[1:14:27] And the board agreed to that with our vote,
[1:14:29] we also agreed to some flexibility
[1:14:31] and part of the conversation of giving it
[1:14:33] to the whole project, the whole property versus just
[1:14:36] the affordable property is math.
[1:14:39] If we changed this to just to give the tax rebate on just
[1:14:45] the units that were affordable that $5 million
[1:14:48] would be significantly less over the 30 years.
[1:14:51] And so therefore, the incentive to help
[1:14:53] make the project would be significantly less.
[1:14:55] One of the critiques that we've received since we put it
[1:14:59] in place was that.
[1:15:00] And why we're seeing this mix some at 60 and some at 80
[1:15:03] is the reality of what we've been hearing
[1:15:05] for the last 3 or 4 years, even with the 15%
[1:15:09] of the whole project for 30 years,
[1:15:11] it's still difficult to get them all to that lower at my point.
[1:15:15] And that has been borne out.
[1:15:16] And all other project projects for profits.
[1:15:18] Nonprofits are all having the same kind of issue with that.
[1:15:21] So I say all of that to say is that we
[1:15:23] had these discussions at the time when we voted on it.
[1:15:26] We said, this will be the process moving forward.
[1:15:29] And we made the decision on that.
[1:15:31] That doesn't mean you have to be thrilled with it
[1:15:33] or happy with it or can't critique it.
[1:15:35] But it is what we put in place for people
[1:15:37] to be able to count on.
[1:15:38] And so now we have one that's here.
[1:15:40] I have no problem voting on the incentive
[1:15:43] and then looking at the applicants and the anger.
[1:15:45] And this means nothing for your decisions for tonight.
[1:15:48] They're completely disconnect it.
[1:15:50] But this one has to be known first because if this money goes
[1:15:53] away, if this incentive goes away,
[1:15:55] then they may not even want to proceed with the piece tonight.
[1:15:58] Now, I would hope that in future times
[1:16:00] it might be a different than the same day.
[1:16:02] I mean, that's kind of interesting
[1:16:04] that they've come to that point.
[1:16:06] But I still think the sequencing is fine
[1:16:10] and we baked in flexibility.
[1:16:11] So if you know and again, I'm not counterpoint and stuff.
[1:16:15] But if we wanted the extra third 10% to be at 60,
[1:16:19] well, then we'd have to kick up the 15% to something else,
[1:16:23] right?
[1:16:23] I mean, that's just that's how this is working And at the time,
[1:16:29] I remember baking in flexibility because we
[1:16:31] could say if we buy into a project,
[1:16:33] we believe in that project.
[1:16:35] And everyone knowing that everything
[1:16:36] is going to be the same, it's not
[1:16:38] going to be a cookie cutter every single time.
[1:16:40] The board should have its prerogative
[1:16:42] to be able to say, All right, well,
[1:16:44] there it is now you can trust it or not, or believe it or not,
[1:16:47] that's up to each of you to do that.
[1:16:49] But the fact is, is if we wanted all 20% to be at 60%, am I ?
[1:16:54] We could move the incentive.
[1:16:56] We would have to go further than the 15%.
[1:16:59] This is bringing it forward.
[1:17:01] The 60%, I don't know At at the higher bedrooms,
[1:17:06] if they would have issues filling
[1:17:08] filling the units at 60% for the for the three bedrooms.
[1:17:12] I mean, this gets into with the homeownership
[1:17:14] where you get so far in the subsidy
[1:17:16] but then there are other barriers that pop up
[1:17:18] from allowing people to go through even though you've
[1:17:20] given strong subsidy.
[1:17:21] But that's a different tangent.
[1:17:22] Jacob is one of the ways to think about this.
[1:17:25] I looked at 5 million over 30 years.
[1:17:27] And I just did some basic math.
[1:17:29] It came out to about $225 a month per unit.
[1:17:33] If I just focus on the Affordable units,
[1:17:36] is that kind of a way to go into that?
[1:17:38] So I took i took 5 million divided by 30.
[1:17:41] I divided that by 12, and then I divided that by 62,
[1:17:44] and I got a monthly amount.
[1:17:46] And that was about what the subsidy is.
[1:17:48] And I don't know if it translates to the rent that way.
[1:17:51] I don't know if I state that in my math is correct to then
[1:17:54] go, Yes, each of those 62 units, the county is
[1:17:58] subsidies subsidizing just over about $220 per unit.
[1:18:01] Is that a is that a way to think about it.
[1:18:04] Or is that just not that's too simplistic That
[1:18:08] is a way to think about it.
[1:18:09] Your math is right.
[1:18:11] You are accurate on that.
[1:18:12] I would say that translation into how it impacts those rents,
[1:18:15] I would look to Stacy to comment on that.
[1:18:18] But you are correct.
[1:18:19] When we looked at the five, what the impact
[1:18:22] of that property and its assessed value over the face.
[1:18:26] AI and what the rebate would look like from the change
[1:18:30] in that assessed value.
[1:18:32] That equates about that $5 million over those 30 years.
[1:18:35] So I think moving as we get these projects in place,
[1:18:37] we need to track it.
[1:18:39] And that way because that I mean,
[1:18:41] it doesn't sound like a lot $225 a month.
[1:18:43] You know, when we did this to 29.
[1:18:47] And I backed into the water fees,
[1:18:49] that was about another and 35 $145 a month on it.
[1:18:53] So there.
[1:18:54] It's interesting how things are baked in,
[1:18:56] but that's basically what this means.
[1:18:57] So if we want to do an extra 10% at 60,
[1:19:01] there's probably some number It's probably
[1:19:03] maybe somewhere between 25% and a third more than what we're
[1:19:06] offering that would be able to be
[1:19:08] able to provide that same level of per unit subsidy at the 80%.
[1:19:12] But it would just go higher.
[1:19:15] I'm you know, I'm supportive of the
[1:19:19] and so I'd be supportive of even having a conversation.
[1:19:22] If we wanted to go further.
[1:19:24] And while it's lost revenue is the cost.
[1:19:27] But it's but this isn't cash coming out
[1:19:29] of our pocket from a standpoint of we put it into a fund.
[1:19:32] And now we're taking that fund out and providing a grant.
[1:19:35] So this is a way that gives us a different option
[1:19:38] besides the cash burden of being able to help
[1:19:40] some affordable units, I'll go back around just to see
[1:19:42] if there's any other commentary or questions that have popped up
[1:19:45] because as we build on top for another supervisor, a pistol
[1:19:49] curtly, no questions.
[1:19:50] Thank you.
[1:19:51] Supervisor Malik.
[1:19:53] Thank you so there's this.
[1:20:00] All right about this.
[1:20:03] The spirit of the 20%.
[1:20:06] I know, Mike made that comment.
[1:20:09] And I don't know how to interpret whether this has it
[1:20:13] or not.
[1:20:14] Does not seem is it.
[1:20:16] Are we really expected to believe that the applicant has
[1:20:19] no 20% alternative in their briefcase when they have already
[1:20:22] gone through all of the application for the tonight
[1:20:28] for Mr. Sumner?
[1:20:29] And I met with them several times
[1:20:31] and went through several different scenarios.
[1:20:32] And this was the one that all parties came to.
[1:20:36] Yes.
[1:20:37] That that Jacob and I felt was fair for the county as well as
[1:20:41] fair for the applicant.
[1:20:47] And the $200 per month subsidy that was just mentioned.
[1:20:52] Is that linked to a parallel rent reduction
[1:20:55] or is that rent reduction built in because it's
[1:20:58] in a federal funding program?
[1:21:00] I mean, how do we see a track bill.
[1:21:03] So we add that that there's track IT mechanisms will be laid
[1:21:06] out within the performance.
[1:21:08] So there will be a performance agreement
[1:21:10] to track these payments over that 30 year period.
[1:21:13] There will be reporting requirements
[1:21:15] in bedded in that performance agreement.
[1:21:18] So we can track that and it'll be
[1:21:21] based on the 60% because that doesn't necessarily mean,
[1:21:25] it took $225 to meet the percentage.
[1:21:28] So they're going to be obligated to meet the percentage of am I
[1:21:32] not that they're giving us a set amount per unit.
[1:21:35] It's just one way of looking at what you're cost ones.
[1:21:39] That's why I brought that up.
[1:21:42] Correct.
[1:21:42] And basically the per unit is also
[1:21:44] attributed to the 10% and 80.
[1:21:46] Am I, which is not going to have the same deficit.
[1:21:50] So there's no, that's not clear either as far as how it's really
[1:21:54] impacted here.
[1:21:55] OK.
[1:21:56] Thank you.
[1:21:57] I don't have any other questions.
[1:21:59] I guess Supervisor Duncan, this is the point that I'll mostly
[1:22:03] save and bring up later tonight, but just sort
[1:22:06] of what we're talking about, thinking
[1:22:08] about how things cost if you look
[1:22:11] at the timeline of this project there's been a really long time.
[1:22:16] And I have questions on that later tonight.
[1:22:18] But just kind of how long it's taken to get before us
[1:22:21] is also money that they're spending
[1:22:23] on this in as effectively affordability supervisor
[1:22:29] prewitt, any further.
[1:22:32] I'm mainly just wanted to clarify
[1:22:34] that when I mentioned the difference in analysis
[1:22:38] between how which units are being analyzed
[1:22:42] for the affordability set aside versus which units are
[1:22:45] beholden for the the tax abatement,
[1:22:50] that was not a critique of our policy for that.
[1:22:52] I think our policy is probably necessary on that.
[1:22:55] It's more of a concern about the public availability
[1:22:59] of that knowledge.
[1:23:00] So I was not sure if that was, you responding
[1:23:04] to my statement on that I also do take the I'm remembering now
[1:23:09] this converse we had about sequencing.
[1:23:12] I think maybe some of my concerns on this coming
[1:23:16] to a separate and first is maybe specifically informed
[1:23:20] by we mentioned the brief case of alternative performance.
[1:23:25] I was aware of the existence of some
[1:23:27] of those alternative performance, which would also
[1:23:31] speak to what comes before us in the Second half.
[1:23:35] I appreciate now what I'm thinking about
[1:23:37] is that we are down to one alternative and that analysis
[1:23:42] of alternatives at this point in time.
[1:23:44] So that might be my concern, might be a little obviated on
[1:23:47] that, although I do still think I mean,
[1:23:50] we're sitting here kind of wanting
[1:23:52] to ask the applicant questions It does feel
[1:23:53] like this may be my fourth.
[1:23:56] It could walk in a different way.
[1:23:57] Like they could have come to us six months earlier
[1:24:00] with this part and then done the rest of it later.
[1:24:03] But if they're going to come in the same day,
[1:24:05] it does feel like it might make sense for them
[1:24:07] to walk together kind of.
[1:24:09] Again, we're feeling it out in real time.
[1:24:12] Yeah.
[1:24:12] Supervisor Russell, any thanks.
[1:24:14] Just a couple quick comments.
[1:24:16] One is it's really simple math, right?
[1:24:18] It's inputs and outputs basically.
[1:24:20] And when you think about this idea of the sequencing
[1:24:23] and the 20% and the etc., a lot of work has been done by staff.
[1:24:29] And thank you for saying that in advance of this.
[1:24:31] It might be interesting to have two options that
[1:24:35] come before you.
[1:24:35] So I don't know how that would look,
[1:24:37] but one is if you wanted if you wanted, you know, 20% at 60%,
[1:24:42] this is what it would take.
[1:24:45] And we can do it as a developer, but it's
[1:24:47] going to take the county to do this to make that happen.
[1:24:50] So just understanding where those parameters are
[1:24:53] and probably a lot of that work is kind of done
[1:24:55] behind the scenes with you all just
[1:24:58] be interesting to hear that maybe
[1:24:59] the applicant can share some of that tonight.
[1:25:02] That's great I was going to say something in addition,
[1:25:08] though, I've forgotten.
[1:25:10] Oh, the amount the also just the breakout of the 30.
[1:25:13] If you take 30, the 5 million divided by 30, what is that?
[1:25:18] It was like 120 some or 220 some.
[1:25:20] I'm forgetting what it was 166, 166 a year.
[1:25:26] And the reason I did that last evening was thinking, all right,
[1:25:29] well, if we took money as out of a half and put cash towards it
[1:25:33] it would cost us about $167,000 a year for over a 30 year
[1:25:38] commitment.
[1:25:39] So that's another way to kind of look
[1:25:40] at how where these funds are coming forward to equate it
[1:25:44] to something, to judge it.
[1:25:45] But all right.
[1:25:47] If there are no further comments,
[1:25:49] then looking for a motion to we're
[1:25:53] I do have a motion included.
[1:25:57] OK.
[1:25:57] There we go.
[1:25:59] So I I would suggest that the board adopt
[1:26:02] the resolution that's attached to the staff report is be is.
[1:26:07] And boy Yeah.
[1:26:09] Yes, sir.
[1:26:11] That's correct.
[1:26:12] All right.
[1:26:13] I move, that the board approve our hip incentive
[1:26:16] for the attain on Fifth project and authorize the county
[1:26:19] executive as attachment B be as a
[1:26:26] to execute the related performing agreement.
[1:26:28] I sign that correctly.
[1:26:30] Second.
[1:26:31] All right.
[1:26:31] The motion has been made and seconded.
[1:26:33] Is there any further discussion?
[1:26:35] All right.
[1:26:35] If the clerk will please call the roll, Mr. Galloway.
[1:26:38] Yes.
[1:26:38] Okay.
[1:26:39] So currently I miss Malik.
[1:26:41] So, Mr. Missal, I. Mr. Pruitt, I can.
[1:26:46] Yes, I didn't get the last word.
[1:26:47] I thought you voted already.
[1:26:49] Sorry about that, Claudette.
[1:26:50] All right.
[1:26:51] Motion carries 5 to 1.
[1:26:53] And that moves us to item number ten.
[1:26:57] Thank you, Mr. Richardson.
[1:26:59] Yes.
[1:26:59] Yes, sir.
[1:27:00] Just one before the board moves on to zoning.
[1:27:03] Zoning, modernized I did want to recognize
[1:27:06] as Miss Cathy Dimmick, who supervises Dr.
[1:27:09] Pathy and our housing program.
[1:27:11] And we recently were very sad to learn, very happy for Dr. Pathy,
[1:27:16] but very sad to learn that she will be leaving us very soon
[1:27:19] to take a position with ceded.
[1:27:22] Gastonia, North Carolina And I'll turn it over to Ms..
[1:27:25] Dimmock because board.
[1:27:26] I did.
[1:27:26] I do believe this be the last time we see her
[1:27:29] in lane on a Torreon because of the the scheduling
[1:27:32] of our meetings and her departure.
[1:27:35] So turnover can you just say a few words about stacy
[1:27:40] and then invite the board to wish her well?
[1:27:43] Thank you very much.
[1:27:44] Yes.
[1:27:44] I believe Stacy has 48 hours left with us.
[1:27:48] And so unless she appears at future meetings, which she'll
[1:27:51] be most welcome to, I suspect she'll
[1:27:53] be dedicated to the doings in Gastonia
[1:27:57] from now on I just wanted to acknowledge
[1:28:00] that Stacy has been here just over seven years or so.
[1:28:04] And has maximized that time in our community
[1:28:08] and moved the Office of Housing from a direct service
[1:28:11] sort of HUD based program only to one that includes
[1:28:15] a robust policy arm and staff that are dedicated to making
[1:28:20] sure that we're in compliance and maximizing other people's
[1:28:23] money from the state and from the federal government which
[1:28:27] I know you will appreciate and has
[1:28:31] created a document on which we stand in terms of housing.
[1:28:37] Albemarle, how we move forward, what policy
[1:28:40] levers we continue to pull, or new ones we decide
[1:28:43] we want to pool in order to meet this community's
[1:28:45] affordable housing needs.
[1:28:46] Her impact will be felt for many years.
[1:28:49] So we're deeply appreciative of her efforts
[1:28:51] and her wicked smart ways.
[1:28:54] Thank you, Stacy.
[1:28:56] And I'm going to invite Supervisor Waters to make
[1:28:58] any remarks.
[1:28:58] Supervisor Lopez Stoker.
[1:29:02] Hi, Stacy.
[1:29:03] I'm going to be sad that you're leaving, but I will tell you,
[1:29:08] I remember a few years ago when you presented
[1:29:11] to the board the incentives package
[1:29:15] and our heads were spinning, but you came up with something
[1:29:18] that I think will contain new to move forward, maybe
[1:29:24] change a little bit.
[1:29:25] I don't know.
[1:29:26] But you came up with something, You know,
[1:29:29] you're office developed something for us
[1:29:31] to work on because we didn't have an incentive
[1:29:34] package that I remember.
[1:29:36] And I appreciate that.
[1:29:37] And I appreciate all the hard work you've put into it
[1:29:41] and all the of the phone calls that were you've
[1:29:46] answered my questions.
[1:29:48] And I have always been forthright.
[1:29:50] And I really do appreciate that.
[1:29:52] We will miss you.
[1:29:53] Thank you.
[1:29:54] And a shout out to Kaki because of the hearts team.
[1:29:58] Thank you for that.
[1:29:59] And I know you're not retiring any time soon or not.
[1:30:02] Thank you.
[1:30:04] Supervisor Malik, thank you.
[1:30:06] And thank you for shepherding what
[1:30:09] has been a very challenging, ongoing problem, because what
[1:30:12] you walked into was no list, no people,
[1:30:16] no management of vouchers.
[1:30:18] I mean, it was awful.
[1:30:19] And I'll make a place for ten years, never get anywhere.
[1:30:22] So I appreciate all of the order, which
[1:30:24] you have brought to the operation along with all
[1:30:28] the order that our county executive has maintained
[1:30:31] as well.
[1:30:33] And I will always remember the many things
[1:30:36] I learned during our drive to Culpeper
[1:30:38] and back on the Four for Progress
[1:30:40] because I had all to myself, I could
[1:30:41] ask lots of great questions and she always had good answers.
[1:30:44] So thank you, Supervisor Duncan.
[1:30:47] One of the things that always kind of comes up
[1:30:51] in teaching history is considering
[1:30:53] the context in which things were formed and kind of the context
[1:30:56] that we're learning.
[1:30:57] And it's is easy for me to like get frustrated of like, why
[1:31:02] don't we do X, Y, Z?
[1:31:03] Why isn't this this way or whatever?
[1:31:04] But like it's helpful to remember that we are currently
[1:31:08] like a growing, like we're in the middle of becoming a growing
[1:31:12] county and kind of modernizing policies
[1:31:16] and changing kind of a lot of things.
[1:31:19] And so thinking about housing like the fact that like,
[1:31:23] you know, we didn't have a housing plan, you know,
[1:31:26] a few years ago.
[1:31:26] And so we're kind of recognizing the work that
[1:31:30] goes into creating the future county that we want to have
[1:31:35] and who we want to have living here
[1:31:37] and how we make that possible is it's hard work
[1:31:41] It's a lot of work, and it's easy to forget that,
[1:31:43] like it's a process and it takes time.
[1:31:45] And so I'm really grateful for the work
[1:31:48] that you've done in kind of helping
[1:31:50] to shepherd that and move it along and it's, you know,
[1:31:55] we are we have made a lot of progress in that area with you.
[1:31:59] And so thank you for that.
[1:32:01] Supervisor Pruitt Yeah.
[1:32:03] Talk about like ways in which departments have changed really
[1:32:06] dramatically during people's tenure Right Like your tenure
[1:32:10] has been shorter than Chief Reeves, But I mean,
[1:32:14] we barely I out.
[1:32:16] It was administered these federal grants
[1:32:19] or these vouchers.
[1:32:21] And sometimes we'll give you a proffer
[1:32:23] and it's your job to figure out where it goes
[1:32:25] that that used to be the job.
[1:32:27] And now it is a department with multiple direct reports,
[1:32:30] a policy arm administering a fund that you create and develop
[1:32:32] policy around developing a massive plan.
[1:32:36] And that's implementing that's cross-functional.
[1:32:38] It is a radical shift in this organization.
[1:32:42] I remember you were the first person I talked to
[1:32:46] in county government and one of the first people
[1:32:50] I talked to in the county who was not affiliated with UVA.
[1:32:53] Right.
[1:32:54] Like five years ago, not long after I moved out,
[1:32:56] was I want to get involved in housing policy.
[1:32:58] I'm going to call this lady.
[1:33:00] She seems relevant.
[1:33:01] And you just made like half an hour
[1:33:04] or two, maybe even an hour of your day saying, yeah, you know,
[1:33:08] I just broke this department out.
[1:33:10] And it's now here's all the plans I have
[1:33:12] and in that way, Stacey, you were very much like my entryway
[1:33:17] into county government and all the things
[1:33:20] that we were planning and could do.
[1:33:23] And you had you had a whole vision
[1:33:25] of what you were going to accomplish in the next five
[1:33:27] years.
[1:33:28] And it's really exciting to have come alongside in that process
[1:33:32] and also seem all those things have.
[1:33:36] Thank you.
[1:33:38] Supervisor Missal Thank you.
[1:33:40] You.
[1:33:41] Yes, I echo all of these.
[1:33:42] Thank Stasia.
[1:33:43] I had a chance to catch up with you before the meeting
[1:33:46] and it's really exciting.
[1:33:47] What you're about to do.
[1:33:48] And I wish you all the best in that initiative
[1:33:51] and that endeavor.
[1:33:51] You know, I think, I mean, you spearheaded
[1:33:54] to the launch of what is probably
[1:33:55] one of the most critical issues facing this community.
[1:33:58] And laid the groundwork for moving forward
[1:34:01] with that initiative.
[1:34:02] So thank you for your insight.
[1:34:05] Thank you for your community partnership
[1:34:08] It's partnerships with me with the university on projects.
[1:34:11] And I'm just grateful for all of that.
[1:34:13] So best of luck.
[1:34:15] Thank you.
[1:34:16] Best wishes.
[1:34:18] Well, I will say that just over the past year,
[1:34:22] part of the an event happened that has
[1:34:24] made me suffer a lot of separation anxiety
[1:34:27] the past 12 or 13 months.
[1:34:29] And haven't Mr. Richardson today just hasn't been great
[1:34:32] for that front.
[1:34:33] When you bring it to make sure departures to us today.
[1:34:37] So I'm holding you to account for that of Stacy.
[1:34:40] I mean, you came on shortly after I came on the board
[1:34:45] because I know that not just working together in Albemarle,
[1:34:47] but the work that we did together
[1:34:49] through Central Regional Housing Partnership
[1:34:50] and the one thing I've always appreciated
[1:34:53] is your candor and willingness to speak on things and topics
[1:34:58] and speak freely about it and echo all the comments
[1:35:02] that housing Albemarle would not be in place
[1:35:04] or what it would be if but for your efforts
[1:35:07] are very appreciative of that.
[1:35:09] I will say and I guess it's always a sign when somebody
[1:35:12] leaves the organization.
[1:35:13] And we always talk about, oh, we're going to stay in touch.
[1:35:15] And we're going to, you know, let's do that.
[1:35:17] I'll do that.
[1:35:18] And we'll see if you, you know, tell me to buzz off or not.
[1:35:21] When i reach out to you and your new position.
[1:35:24] But I think one thing that's critical.
[1:35:26] And that we've learned or I've learned
[1:35:28] and working on these housing issues
[1:35:30] is that it's because we know it's not just
[1:35:33] in your jurisdiction and everybody's
[1:35:34] trying to figure these things out.
[1:35:36] So as you move to your new opportunity
[1:35:39] and wish you the best of luck in that,
[1:35:40] I hope that you will continue to be like, You know what?
[1:35:43] This is an idea.
[1:35:45] This is a process that would work really well in Albemarle.
[1:35:47] That we can still have that idea exchange and that relationship
[1:35:51] because without it's just like we learned
[1:35:54] when we go to Vaiko or the Naco or we go to housing conferences
[1:35:56] or talk to folks who are doing housing around the country
[1:35:59] without that collaborative effort, none of us
[1:36:01] are going to make any progress.
[1:36:03] So again, thank you for all of your time
[1:36:05] and efforts in Albemarle.
[1:36:06] Sincerely appreciate it.
[1:36:08] And we wish you the best of luck in your new role.
[1:36:11] Thank you.
[1:36:11] I don't really have a lot to say because I didn't
[1:36:14] know you were going to do this.
[1:36:16] You're welcome to say anything that you
[1:36:18] would like if you would like.
[1:36:20] I just.
[1:36:20] I, I have really, truly enjoyed and appreciated the time
[1:36:24] I've spent here in the county Take
[1:36:28] in Ron's why it's place the former chief of housing.
[1:36:32] He was in that role for two decades a little bit more
[1:36:36] than that was a bit intimidating right.
[1:36:38] So this guy has been there forever.
[1:36:40] So thank you initially for taking a chance on me
[1:36:42] to say that.
[1:36:44] And I truly appreciate I'm not I'm not leaving
[1:36:46] because I don't like my job.
[1:36:48] And I don't like our more county government.
[1:36:50] It's just new roles that I'm looking for.
[1:36:52] And I have appreciated.
[1:36:53] Everybody in the county that has worked with me because I know I
[1:36:56] can be a pain in the neck to get what I want.
[1:36:59] And I see it is probably going to take
[1:37:02] it's a relief that I'm not going to constantly poke them
[1:37:05] for can we do this?
[1:37:07] Can we do this?
[1:37:08] Can we do this housing wise?
[1:37:10] So thank you for everything all of you have given me
[1:37:13] since I've been here.
[1:37:14] And it's nice to hear that I've given back to the county.
[1:37:18] Thank you.
[1:37:18] Thank you All right.
[1:37:22] Bored.
[1:37:22] We will move to item number ten work sessions.
[1:37:28] Zoning, modernization, Phase two articles
[1:37:30] five The overlay zoning districts and six use tables.
[1:37:35] Sounds exciting.
[1:37:36] And it is And we have Leo with us today.
[1:37:41] Good afternoon.
[1:37:43] Good afternoon.
[1:37:44] Was the board and company you state.
[1:37:51] And I'm so glad you're so excited about this out Be
[1:37:56] careful what you ask for so so as we have mentioned,
[1:38:18] we are here to talk about articles Five over the zoning
[1:38:26] districts and Article six use tables
[1:38:28] are drafted into the phase two of the zoning modernization
[1:38:31] project.
[1:38:32] My name is Leah Brumfield, Senior planner to the Zoning
[1:38:35] Division of Human Development.
[1:38:36] And here we go.
[1:38:39] The focus of this presentation is going to be to share updates
[1:38:43] and keep the board informed on our progress on this project
[1:38:47] with a couple of questions.
[1:38:48] At the end.
[1:38:51] Just start when new project background recap a brief look
[1:38:55] at Article five.
[1:38:57] Looking at the regulations for our overlay zoning districts
[1:39:01] and then we'll look at Article six, which
[1:39:03] has a lot of broad language and formatting updates on the use
[1:39:07] tables.
[1:39:08] Then go into work session questions for the board
[1:39:11] and look at next steps and timeline of the project.
[1:39:17] So the focus questions that we're
[1:39:19] going to be looking at the end are
[1:39:22] whether the use and formatting changes recommended
[1:39:25] in the executive summary are acceptable to the board.
[1:39:27] And then also whether the types of changes
[1:39:31] recommended in the executive summary align
[1:39:33] with the expectations of the board for phase two,
[1:39:36] which is intended to be non substantive
[1:39:38] without public engagement for the zoning modernization
[1:39:41] project.
[1:39:43] I will ask the board to generally hold their questions
[1:39:46] until the end of the presentation
[1:39:47] to avoid repetition or answering a question that's going
[1:39:51] to be on the very next slide.
[1:39:52] After you ask that question.
[1:39:57] So for anyone just tuning in to the zoning modernization
[1:39:59] project, we have a quick recap in phase one,
[1:40:04] we established the tone, language, style and ordinance
[1:40:07] format of the new drafts, working with Berkeley Group
[1:40:10] to draft articles, new articles.
[1:40:12] One, two, three and ten, which were focusing on administration
[1:40:17] processes and the nonconformity of the ordinance with very
[1:40:21] few changes requiring either staff or public input.
[1:40:24] Really just copy editing.
[1:40:27] This phase laid the framework for the rest of the project
[1:40:30] with the language and the tone and the style
[1:40:33] of the entire articles These four articles
[1:40:36] were brought before the PC and the board,
[1:40:39] and they were given general approval.
[1:40:41] They were not adopted at that time because of the reformatting
[1:40:44] and re organization of the ordinance
[1:40:46] will require a wholesale adoption all at once.
[1:40:50] Phase two, which is the topic of this work session,
[1:40:54] includes rewriting the rest of the ordinance with staff topic
[1:40:58] expert input to make sure that when we are rewriting
[1:41:02] the ordinance, we're not changing how we actually
[1:41:05] administer any of our regulations.
[1:41:09] Where possible.
[1:41:10] Some of the regulations are being clarified or slimmed down.
[1:41:13] These are things that are administrative practices already
[1:41:16] or that don't really change how we do anything Again,
[1:41:22] no substantive changes are intended
[1:41:23] to be included in this phase except for the minor things
[1:41:28] that I have highlighted at the end of the presentation
[1:41:31] So today we're doing.
[1:41:33] We're addressing articles five and six,
[1:41:35] but after we have drafted the rest of the articles
[1:41:39] for Phase two, we anticipate the ordinance being adopted
[1:41:42] this winter and a new style, a new format replacing
[1:41:46] the current ordinance wholesale We're currently
[1:41:49] scheduled for a December public hearing for adoption,
[1:41:52] but with Roger and informed base code coming up
[1:41:55] for the board in November and the timeline for making things
[1:42:01] match up to get into the board packets,
[1:42:04] we are recommending moving that public hearing to January
[1:42:07] and then enactment of that ordinance would follow shortly.
[1:42:10] We would need a little bit of leeway
[1:42:13] to get an Unicode specific access and cross-references
[1:42:17] in other sections of the ordinance to line up
[1:42:19] with the new zoning ordinance.
[1:42:21] So that would be a short delay for enactment phase three
[1:42:28] is rewriting the regulations to bring them
[1:42:31] into alignment with the comprehensive plan, which
[1:42:33] is all of the bigger changes, which is the substantive things.
[1:42:38] We anticipate that after a cleaning
[1:42:40] up our audience in Phase two, this work
[1:42:42] will be much more straightforward than if we
[1:42:43] had just tried to do it.
[1:42:45] Now, as we work on Phase two, we are discovering
[1:42:48] things in our ordinance that we haven't really been enacting,
[1:42:52] but which we need to clean up.
[1:42:54] And so this is one of the really great outcomes
[1:42:58] of phase two because of this more substantial work.
[1:43:03] Phase three will involve both staff and public input
[1:43:06] and we are going to be looking for topic level expert
[1:43:10] discussion groups for that public input.
[1:43:12] So as we do have the goals and the alignment
[1:43:15] of the comprehensive plan to work with.
[1:43:18] And they were so recently adopted,
[1:43:21] we are going to be translating that document into the zoning
[1:43:24] ordinance as was prioritized for the board earlier this year.
[1:43:28] And we met through all the actions
[1:43:30] and looked at those ones.
[1:43:32] So the staff and public input that we're looking at
[1:43:34] will focus on more the details of how we're
[1:43:37] going to act in that direction.
[1:43:39] So we have our direction and then
[1:43:41] we're looking at which ways we are going to be enacting it
[1:43:44] with very specific acts.
[1:43:46] But as noted our priorities are emerging goals.
[1:43:49] They are set from the comp plan and there they
[1:43:52] are prioritized by the board's direction.
[1:43:54] Earlier this year.
[1:43:56] So then at the end of phase three,
[1:43:58] we and hopefully will adopt all those alignment changes
[1:44:01] and then have a zoning ordinance that matches our plan
[1:44:07] So as we are looking at phase 2 today,
[1:44:09] we do want to keep in mind the goals specified
[1:44:12] for this phase of the project We are rewriting the ordinance
[1:44:16] and phase two to just do better formatting plain language,
[1:44:20] make it easier to understand.
[1:44:22] We are consolidating and clarifying
[1:44:24] uses to have a more streamlined ordinance.
[1:44:26] We are removing duplicative language,
[1:44:29] so something that is self enacting
[1:44:31] in the Code of Virginia.
[1:44:33] We're not putting into our new into our ordinance
[1:44:37] And then we are simplifying our review process where possible.
[1:44:40] So again, these changes are not really substantive policy.
[1:44:43] It's just whether it's on the page in a certain way or not,
[1:44:49] where we do have any drafts on phase two
[1:44:52] that do appear to contain policy changes,
[1:44:55] these are either required by state law.
[1:44:57] So we had some new some new laws that were passed in July.
[1:45:03] And so some of those would be reflected.
[1:45:06] We have either a clarification, so something that looks new,
[1:45:11] but actually, it's just explaining
[1:45:13] what we have been interpreting this as for a long time, where
[1:45:17] we have a minor change which is being brought to the board's
[1:45:22] attention.
[1:45:22] So first, we're looking at Article five of our overlay
[1:45:27] zoning districts.
[1:45:28] These regulations are currently located
[1:45:30] in our ordinance in Article three,
[1:45:32] Section three of the zoning ordinance.
[1:45:34] So that's where all of the overlay district regulations
[1:45:36] are right now And since the overlay zoning district
[1:45:42] regulations are pretty specific.
[1:45:44] They're very self-contained.
[1:45:46] Rewriting them was fairly straightforward Each overlay
[1:45:49] zoning district is separated into its own subsection.
[1:45:53] They don't really cross-pollinate much.
[1:45:55] And so rewriting it, we established
[1:45:58] the intent and purpose of each in a more consistent way.
[1:46:04] We wrote the application of the overlay zoning
[1:46:07] district in a very clear way so that if someone
[1:46:10] reads the applicant ability section,
[1:46:12] they understand if that applies to them
[1:46:14] or not But again, the substance, the regulation
[1:46:18] has not really changed.
[1:46:19] Two things I did want to bring to the board's attention,
[1:46:23] Article five.
[1:46:24] First, we did move the language about
[1:46:26] the floodplain administrator power and responsibilities
[1:46:29] into Article two, which was a article brought to the board.
[1:46:33] Previously, the administration section,
[1:46:36] because the establishment of the floodplain administrator
[1:46:38] is not actually how we administer the floodplain.
[1:46:41] It is establishing the person who does it.
[1:46:44] So that's different process.
[1:46:46] That's not in the regulations.
[1:46:49] I did also want to note we reserved
[1:46:51] some sections in the entrance water regulations
[1:46:53] for future language because we do have a zoning text
[1:46:56] amendment in process right now that our RB staff is actively
[1:47:02] working on for outdoor storage sales and display of vehicles.
[1:47:06] So that is reserved in the draft that you saw in your packet
[1:47:13] So Article six was the really the bigger
[1:47:15] left on this particular section of work
[1:47:20] It consolidates all the uses across all of our district
[1:47:23] sections into a consistent use permission tables, format
[1:47:29] So in the current ordinance, anyone who's unfamiliar
[1:47:33] or permitted uses are listed under each district.
[1:47:36] We have the R.A. for marginal Historic district
[1:47:40] or one or 2 or 4, etc. and there's just
[1:47:45] a long list of every single use that you
[1:47:47] can do either permitted by a administrative approval by right
[1:47:52] or permitted by a special use permit approved by the board.
[1:47:56] So some of these are also spread in section 4, which
[1:48:01] is our basic regulations section if something applies everywhere.
[1:48:04] So our accessory solar facilities
[1:48:07] that is in section four.
[1:48:09] But you can do it in all districts
[1:48:12] if you don't know to look for it in section 4,
[1:48:16] you might think you can't do it in any district.
[1:48:19] And then again, we have some things
[1:48:21] that are only in Section five, which is
[1:48:23] our supplemental regulations.
[1:48:24] So that makes looking for use permissions a bit tricky.
[1:48:28] And our new format is widely accepted
[1:48:30] to be a more modern, user friendly approach.
[1:48:33] And so the other big change of other than formatting
[1:48:37] is updating the names of our users
[1:48:40] for consistency across districts and for consistency
[1:48:43] with current usage in modern planning and also consolidating
[1:48:47] uses where uses are similar and the use
[1:48:50] permit plans that exist right now
[1:48:52] are the same today, so no changes for the use permissions.
[1:48:56] Just what they're named.
[1:48:59] This is kind of a visualization of what we just
[1:49:00] said we had the old list just going down
[1:49:06] the line, very long, very descriptive
[1:49:09] and then a cleaner, neater table.
[1:49:16] We did have another specification here,
[1:49:19] which is a clearly a here.
[1:49:23] It's alphabetized looking at the use permissions,
[1:49:27] clarifying whether something is only permitted as an accessory.
[1:49:30] Use which we have a number of those
[1:49:33] uses where you can only do it if you
[1:49:35] have the use that you can have the secondary use
[1:49:39] as an accessory too.
[1:49:40] So you cannot have an accessory apartment unless you have
[1:49:44] a primary residence.
[1:49:46] There so much more, much easier to read,
[1:49:49] much more streamlined and consistent across all
[1:49:51] the districts.
[1:49:52] So the naming conventions.
[1:49:55] So other than the formatting the big changes in Article six
[1:49:58] were the language updates here are just called pulled out
[1:50:01] a couple of the examples to show you
[1:50:04] general trends and a few of the specific
[1:50:06] uses to bring to your attention.
[1:50:09] One consistent change across a multiple uses
[1:50:13] was to give uses that are primarily the same,
[1:50:17] but differ in their intensity.
[1:50:20] A major minor naming distinction.
[1:50:22] So things like a religious assembly
[1:50:25] use over 200 or under 200.
[1:50:28] That comes major and minor.
[1:50:30] A home occupation in which we actually
[1:50:33] have that naming convention.
[1:50:35] Major and minor, but we also have class AA in class B,
[1:50:38] again, consolidating those as they are essentially the same,
[1:50:43] but just in different districts Now
[1:50:45] it's the same name across all districts.
[1:50:49] Similarly, farmworker housing, motor vehicle repair,
[1:50:52] renewable energy systems, country stores data centers.
[1:50:55] These are all currently differentiated
[1:50:58] in two different categories.
[1:51:00] And so we just renamed them under that naming convention.
[1:51:07] One thing that I did want to bring to the board
[1:51:12] attention that is kind of a example of how we are pulling
[1:51:17] things out of the ordinance and cleaning up and seeing more
[1:51:21] easily what we are actually allowed to do
[1:51:23] is update in language for clubs and lodges, clubs and lodges as
[1:51:28] listed in multiple multiple zoning districts.
[1:51:32] Almost all the residential and commercial as well.
[1:51:37] But clubs and lodges within the supplemental regulations
[1:51:41] and sections contains the use of gun clubs
[1:51:45] and shooting ranges as a secondary use
[1:51:49] and this table pulls into two separate uses.
[1:51:52] We have social clubs and lodges and then
[1:51:55] we have gun gun clubs and shooting
[1:51:57] ranges This isn't a change because in the summary
[1:52:00] regulations.
[1:52:00] We specify that anywhere you can have a club or a lodge,
[1:52:04] you can have a gun club and shooting range
[1:52:07] by special use permit.
[1:52:08] That's what's currently in the ordinance.
[1:52:10] This was a little bit surprising to staff
[1:52:13] when they were reading some of this,
[1:52:15] where we were a little bit surprised at that was actually
[1:52:18] in there because we don't get a lot of permits or applications
[1:52:21] for that.
[1:52:23] But this is something that is an excellent illustration of how
[1:52:27] this process combing through the ordinance,
[1:52:30] looking at what we actually have without making changes.
[1:52:33] First, is really giving us a clear
[1:52:36] the scope of what we have to do in future phases.
[1:52:43] So also as you may have noticed on the prior slide,
[1:52:46] a few of the language updates included consolidations.
[1:52:50] So where the uses were essentially the same.
[1:52:53] We did consolidate them to focus more
[1:52:56] on regulating the impact and the nature of the use as opposed
[1:52:59] to the individual uses.
[1:53:01] There's a lot of examples here where
[1:53:05] all the uses that are essentially
[1:53:07] offices there have the same impact, the same traffic
[1:53:12] and they're allowed the same in all different districts.
[1:53:15] They're just listed individually in different districts.
[1:53:17] Now.
[1:53:18] They're all just office business,
[1:53:19] professional admin Same thing with light industrial,
[1:53:24] heavy manufacturing.
[1:53:25] And then also in the next slide, our
[1:53:27] retail where a use could have been fit into this easily,
[1:53:33] but it doesn't actually match up with the exact permissions.
[1:53:36] We separated out that use.
[1:53:38] So for example, all the wholesale distribution
[1:53:42] and warehousing use is a light industrial use.
[1:53:46] It is by its nature a light industrial use
[1:53:49] We did not consolidated into that category,
[1:53:51] because in two different districts.
[1:53:54] It has a slightly different use permission.
[1:53:56] So in phase Three, we may be looking
[1:53:59] at whether those uses can actually all
[1:54:02] be consolidated into a more simplified use category
[1:54:05] and whether we had made unnecessary distinctions
[1:54:08] in the past and it was just maybe
[1:54:10] a holdover from previous expectations
[1:54:13] or an old way of zoning So as I mentioned,
[1:54:19] we have a lot of retail uses in our current ordinance.
[1:54:23] We have 25 different named uses which are
[1:54:25] all retail sales and service.
[1:54:27] And so we have consolidated these
[1:54:30] into 4, 3 retail uses that are listed here.
[1:54:35] Retail sales and service, general neighborhood
[1:54:37] retail sales and services and site and transit commercial.
[1:54:41] So the current zoning ordinance describes a type of retail use
[1:54:45] that is supportive of surrounding residents or office
[1:54:48] or the surrounding industrial uses.
[1:54:52] But it doesn't actually name that separately
[1:54:54] as an individual use in consolidation.
[1:54:57] I'm sorry, in consultation with the long range planning
[1:55:00] team who just completed our lauded 8044 plan,
[1:55:06] we have named that neighborhood retail and services
[1:55:09] highlighting that these uses are intended to serve
[1:55:12] the surrounding neighborhood.
[1:55:13] They're not something that people are necessarily
[1:55:16] going to drive 50 miles in order to come to.
[1:55:20] They're not the big box stores and it's not a big department
[1:55:24] store.
[1:55:26] It's not a business to business that kind of thing.
[1:55:29] We will be writing the limitations
[1:55:32] on this on these types of stores kind of put those boundaries
[1:55:35] on it in the use performances stage,
[1:55:38] which is going to be article seven of this current phase.
[1:55:43] And that's just again, what do we actually do right now
[1:55:45] If someone came in for an application today and wanted
[1:55:49] to have a use that is listed in the ordinance as retail stores
[1:55:53] and shops on a single floor are compatible with the residential
[1:55:55] characteristics of a district with a gross for not exceeding
[1:55:58] 4000ft².
[1:56:00] That becomes our supplementary regulations
[1:56:02] or argues performance standards.
[1:56:04] So we also created the category for site intensive commercial.
[1:56:10] These are uses that can't be contained within a building.
[1:56:13] Usually they're more intensive.
[1:56:15] They use a large, larger number of acres, as most of the time,
[1:56:20] these would be uses that are permitted
[1:56:22] in highway, commercial and industrial districts.
[1:56:25] And again, this is just a consolidation
[1:56:28] of these types of uses that already exist.
[1:56:34] So the use changes that I mentioned that were actually
[1:56:37] changes are still very minor changes that we do not believe
[1:56:42] will impact any applications due to their infrequency of receipt
[1:56:46] of application Are the removing crematoriums and outdoor drama
[1:56:52] theaters from the rural areas.
[1:56:53] Zoning district combine agricultural museums
[1:56:56] and historical centers into a single use
[1:56:59] and removing livestock sales from our commercial districts.
[1:57:04] This is a little bit of an attempt
[1:57:07] to get ahead of phase three and see fill out
[1:57:11] how we're doing here because we don't believe that these will
[1:57:16] have any application be forthcoming
[1:57:19] over the next few years.
[1:57:20] We haven't had any previously I think that the last application
[1:57:26] for an outdoor drama theater was over 25 years ago or something
[1:57:32] like that 70s.
[1:57:33] I bet you if you wanted.
[1:57:36] It was it was a time.
[1:57:39] So that I think will be something that will not really
[1:57:43] have an impact.
[1:57:45] Climate atriums are currently permitted
[1:57:46] under funeral homes in the commercial district
[1:57:48] county, which is more logical given truck
[1:57:51] traffic, truck, traffic, necessity,
[1:57:54] proximity to our urban centers.
[1:57:56] And then agricultural and historical centers
[1:58:00] are largely permitted the same across most districts.
[1:58:04] So combining them doesn't really make a lot of change.
[1:58:07] It creates a small amount of change.
[1:58:09] In permission But the primary goals of both of those uses
[1:58:15] is focusing on the agricultural history of the county.
[1:58:18] So both of those would be essentially the same.
[1:58:22] They're just named slightly different.
[1:58:23] And I think that a use that could
[1:58:27] be applied for under either term could
[1:58:30] be argued to be applied for under the other term.
[1:58:34] So as such, we recommend these changes
[1:58:38] as for review by the board here listed on are screened for easy
[1:58:48] for easy reference.
[1:58:50] But the other thing that we had, which
[1:58:53] was poor recommendation from the Planning Commission, which
[1:58:56] has a little bit more formatting is changing the permissions
[1:58:59] for farmers markets.
[1:59:01] Industrial districts to align to mirror
[1:59:03] the ones in all other districts, which
[1:59:05] has to be a square footage and a permanency distinction
[1:59:12] between major and minor farmer's markets as opposed
[1:59:15] to a square footage in an existing building which
[1:59:19] is the current distinction.
[1:59:22] So with that in mind I would ask the Board these two questions.
[1:59:29] Are the just mentioned use and formatting changes
[1:59:32] acceptable to the board and do overall
[1:59:36] all the types of changes that we're recommending
[1:59:38] that you saw in your executive summary packets
[1:59:42] for these two articles aligning with your expectations
[1:59:46] for this phase.
[1:59:50] All right.
[1:59:51] Supervisor.
[1:59:51] Look, Mr. Kirkland the I like your simplified review process.
[1:59:57] All I wanted you know, can you well,
[2:00:00] can you tell me the simplified review process?
[2:00:03] Well, that saved time for developers.
[2:00:09] We do believe it.
[2:00:10] Well, the big simplified review process change
[2:00:15] was regarding initial site plans, which we currently
[2:00:21] have a requirement for an initial a preliminary
[2:00:25] and a final site plan for all applications,
[2:00:28] even if there is no change between those two site plans
[2:00:33] and then with guidance from the current development
[2:00:39] planning team who reviews those applications
[2:00:42] and also with encouragement from our local development community,
[2:00:46] we made the preliminary site plans and maybe
[2:00:48] calling them wrong.
[2:00:50] Appreciate it.
[2:00:51] Sure.
[2:00:52] It's preliminary initial, but the first site plan
[2:00:54] is going to be optional, unless there is grading
[2:00:57] or architectural review board requirements So that will remove
[2:01:01] an entire step of the process.
[2:01:03] OK.
[2:01:04] So that will save time both for commercial and residential.
[2:01:08] Yes that is.
[2:01:09] Thank you.
[2:01:10] And you mentioned about Major and minor
[2:01:14] and you mentioned data centers.
[2:01:16] Do do we have can we get a lot of questions regarding data
[2:01:20] centers ?
[2:01:20] But we do have numbers on that regarding
[2:01:23] because you had mentioned for churches,
[2:01:26] as you know, under 200 over 200 major minor,
[2:01:30] Do you have the same thing?
[2:01:32] Numbers for data centers?
[2:01:34] Yes, it's a square footage distinction that's
[2:01:37] currently in the ordinance.
[2:01:40] I believe that's the most that page.
[2:01:43] Yeah.
[2:01:43] Let me pull that.
[2:01:45] Where 30,000ft²?
[2:01:47] Yeah.
[2:01:48] 40,000ft².
[2:01:49] Pardon?
[2:01:50] 40,000ft².
[2:01:51] Okay.
[2:01:51] So that's the considered.
[2:01:53] I know.
[2:01:54] I'm familiar with the 40,000ft² that we currently allow.
[2:01:57] That's considered a minor.
[2:01:59] No, that's a major.
[2:02:01] That's a major.
[2:02:02] OK.
[2:02:03] And I do not believe there is actually
[2:02:06] any difference in treatment between them right now.
[2:02:10] Only go to that experiment as p.
[2:02:13] Yes, they are both especially use permits,
[2:02:17] which I believe was the previous distinction when the board most
[2:02:21] recently talked about that.
[2:02:23] So they are different but they're just
[2:02:26] a different distinction.
[2:02:28] And based on the supplemental regulations,
[2:02:31] the uses are the same.
[2:02:33] They're both special use permits and it's not it
[2:02:37] has nothing to do with square footage sensors, just one set.
[2:02:40] You just had the 40,000, correct?
[2:02:42] I mean, I'm sorry.
[2:02:44] Could you repeat that?
[2:02:45] OK.
[2:02:45] So you have the 40,000ft².
[2:02:47] But what you're saying is you have no distinction between
[2:02:50] the major and minor regarding the 40,000ft².
[2:02:54] There are other things that you may
[2:02:56] consider it to be a major minor, but not the square footage.
[2:03:00] Is that correct?
[2:03:01] For commercial districts it's the same
[2:03:04] for industrial districts.
[2:03:05] The minor are permitted to buy.
[2:03:08] Right.
[2:03:09] Okay.
[2:03:10] Okay.
[2:03:11] And again that's what we have now.
[2:03:13] So.
[2:03:13] Yeah.
[2:03:14] And could you explain a little bit more
[2:03:16] regarding the farmer's markets?
[2:03:19] Sure So the farmer's markets distinction
[2:03:26] in the commercial districts and in the residential districts
[2:03:31] is a distinction between whether the farmer's markets are
[2:03:34] permanent and how many days a week.
[2:03:37] They can be held.
[2:03:39] So we would call it a farmer's market.
[2:03:43] Still.
[2:03:44] But if we think about something like Eastern Market
[2:03:46] in in Washington, D.C., or a French Albemarle market where
[2:03:50] there are stalls that are permanent
[2:03:52] and the farmers come out, you know, three, four days a week
[2:03:57] and sell their wares, that would be a major farmer's market,
[2:04:02] the main farmer's market is the one where they come out.
[2:04:04] They put a pop up tent up, they put their table out,
[2:04:06] and then they go away.
[2:04:07] And it's only, you know 1 to 2 days a week.
[2:04:11] So that is the distinction currently in the ordinance
[2:04:15] and the difference between industrial districts
[2:04:17] is that we have a distinction for a total square footage
[2:04:22] of whether it's a major or a major
[2:04:25] or a minor farmer's market.
[2:04:28] And then we're just saying, you know
[2:04:30] what, let's just make it the same as all the other districts.
[2:04:33] Yeah.
[2:04:33] And thank you very much.
[2:04:35] Those are all my questions.
[2:04:37] Supervisor Malik Thank you.
[2:04:39] Yes.
[2:04:40] And yes to your questions.
[2:04:42] But I do a your questions.
[2:04:44] But I would love some clarifications and/or put them
[2:04:46] on a list to clarify later and bring back because I just
[2:04:50] want to make sure that, you know, well,
[2:04:54] in advance of things that may or may not have made sense to me.
[2:04:59] And maybe others as well.
[2:05:01] So going through my page.
[2:05:03] Here we are in on blood hazard districts,
[2:05:10] it's clear that page 11 of my homework care
[2:05:13] amendment of district boundaries There
[2:05:14] are three categories of when the district the decider agent
[2:05:20] could make a decision and natural manmade changes more
[2:05:25] detailed studies have been conducted by record engineers
[2:05:28] or in individual documents.
[2:05:30] The need what I mean, do they decide ?
[2:05:34] See the last individual request take the place of A and B?
[2:05:38] It was not clear if you have to have all three of those things
[2:05:42] or just what.
[2:05:43] So the flood hazard overlay district, we actually
[2:05:46] didn't make hardly any changes to even
[2:05:48] in the language that is what's currently in our ordinance
[2:05:51] right now.
[2:05:54] The the language there is interpreted by the floodplain
[2:06:02] administrator and the need that is required
[2:06:07] would be something that would be meeting a much higher bar
[2:06:10] than just i want this.
[2:06:12] Yeah, yeah.
[2:06:13] OK.
[2:06:13] Very good.
[2:06:14] I just wanted to make sure that was not clear when I read it.
[2:06:17] And I thought, Huh, somebody else may say the same thing
[2:06:19] and get equally worried that when
[2:06:23] they don't need to do the okay, now
[2:06:27] I'm on to the use table in Section five of a still article
[2:06:33] five.
[2:06:34] OK.
[2:06:35] Oh no, skip that one.
[2:06:39] Nevermind the public utilities I don't think this
[2:06:42] came up in the later channels.
[2:06:44] So this is on page 22 of 36 of the packet on article five
[2:06:50] Electric gas Oil of communications facilities
[2:06:52] as permitted in all districts.
[2:06:56] There's no mention of transmission lines.
[2:06:59] And I think there in your future work
[2:07:02] there should be because we can't look away
[2:07:04] from an issue that is making everybody
[2:07:07] crazy for the next many, many years.
[2:07:09] And so I think since it's not in here,
[2:07:12] if there's a different place for it,
[2:07:13] then you can explain that in the future.
[2:07:15] But to me, that's a very big gap right now
[2:07:18] as you see fighting with itself about how to do this.
[2:07:20] We need to be prepared and have our things done
[2:07:23] before they change something.
[2:07:25] In my opinion this is article five.
[2:07:30] Still natural resource extraction Division five point
[2:07:33] 5AA552A.
[2:07:34] A use permitted in the district is unlikely to create an effect.
[2:07:41] Adverse public health, safety, and welfare.
[2:07:45] I'm extremely troubled by unlikely to create.
[2:07:48] This is a 40 year old approach that I remember
[2:07:52] as causing all sorts of trouble for many other generations
[2:07:55] of work And I would ask you to be a lot more specific.
[2:08:01] And get some other criteria there
[2:08:03] because that does not give citizenry a lot of confidence
[2:08:07] that somebody is watching.
[2:08:08] They want to assume that government
[2:08:10] is doing its protection job.
[2:08:12] And if we're not going to, we need to very explicitly tell
[2:08:16] them that they're on their own.
[2:08:17] Okay.
[2:08:19] Article six agricultural districts use table.
[2:08:22] I assume that used to be a rural area
[2:08:24] and now it's just called because we don't officially have
[2:08:27] egg districts in our zones.
[2:08:29] So that's a question.
[2:08:30] You all will have to figure out how
[2:08:32] to explain But my concern burn is artisan manufacture
[2:08:37] drink while it's listed in the industrial page
[2:08:40] is not showing up in the a and we've spent like five
[2:08:45] years talking about this.
[2:08:46] And it was proposed and agreed.
[2:08:48] When applicants are told many, many years ago.
[2:08:51] This is going to be done in the zoning agreement
[2:08:53] and it's not in here, I would just
[2:08:56] ask you to make sure that it gets in there.
[2:08:58] So we don't have to have a repeat.
[2:09:01] I can list off a dozen preexisting artisan cabinet
[2:09:03] makers all throughout the Whitehall
[2:09:05] district and the Ravenna district for sure, and probably
[2:09:08] others as well.
[2:09:09] That so I just think some fairness
[2:09:11] there is important Thank you.
[2:09:14] Passionate.
[2:09:16] Oh, you're so welcome.
[2:09:18] And a slow reader, which is why it
[2:09:20] makes it easy for me to do these things
[2:09:22] and makes everybody crazy.
[2:09:23] Like, oh God, here she goes again.
[2:09:26] Farmer's markets, major and minor.
[2:09:27] You did talk about that a little bit when
[2:09:30] the farmers market, farm sales off farm sales on farm sales
[2:09:33] was done in 2012, It was very specifically done
[2:09:37] for no permanent structures allowed
[2:09:41] And then all of a sudden one popped up in the Jewett district
[2:09:44] a couple of years ago with no process whatsoever coming
[2:09:47] to the Board of Supervisors.
[2:09:49] Many, many constituents raised concerns to him.
[2:09:52] As Duncan's predecessor, and nothing was done about that.
[2:09:58] This is a grocery store in the rural area.
[2:10:02] It is not selling local stuff.
[2:10:04] Most of the time they're out of season vegetables
[2:10:06] and they're selling meats and things like that.
[2:10:08] So i just ask you to very carefully define
[2:10:13] going forward what we're talking about here,
[2:10:15] because it's a big, big leap from a cluster of tents
[2:10:20] at any number of different places
[2:10:23] early to churches, cozy churches,
[2:10:26] other places where they do have true farmer's markets
[2:10:28] and are using existing approved.
[2:10:31] You got entrances.
[2:10:32] And that was the whole point of that
[2:10:37] So that is something for the future
[2:10:39] of 6.4 commercial districts commercial districts,
[2:10:48] inner waste.
[2:10:49] Fill is that considered as a standalone in commercial
[2:10:54] that you would have our commercial zone used to make
[2:10:59] a dump for asphalt. It's permitted right now, yes.
[2:11:03] OK.
[2:11:04] Work to do.
[2:11:05] I will not worry about that right now.
[2:11:08] Industrial.
[2:11:09] OK.
[2:11:10] We talked about an artisan.
[2:11:11] I think I am one more folded over what is that Oh, okay.
[2:11:17] Yeah, that's just referring back in to the transmission line gap
[2:11:23] under public use services and utilities I will stop there.
[2:11:26] Thank you very much for all your.
[2:11:27] I love the read of this.
[2:11:29] Having struggled with small print from the old one
[2:11:31] and always having to go back and forth from chapter to chapter.
[2:11:34] You've made huge progress.
[2:11:36] So thank you, Supervisor Sir Duncan Thank you
[2:11:41] for the presentation and how well organized was it?
[2:11:44] Was in reading through the packet.
[2:11:46] It was kind of hard for me to wrap my mind around what exactly
[2:11:50] the changes were, and now it makes a whole lot
[2:11:52] more sense I really like the change and having the tables,
[2:11:59] you know, when you are trying to figure out what you can do
[2:12:02] and reading through the code like it's a good exercise.
[2:12:04] So like when the code and clicking
[2:12:05] through and like reading the text, but it's very confusing
[2:12:09] and kind of time and town sort of So having the tables
[2:12:12] is great.
[2:12:13] And I am very much looking forward to phase three.
[2:12:18] Yes, me to supervisor proof.
[2:12:21] I'm I agree the tables are great.
[2:12:24] These tables are really standard practice.
[2:12:26] And I'm happy to see us using them at a few questions.
[2:12:30] Can we actually go to the previous slide
[2:12:33] that had the recommended changes these all
[2:12:38] feel pretty innocuous I will say I just
[2:12:42] don't know that I understand why we're doing the first one.
[2:12:46] Like you said, we're not currently getting them
[2:12:51] but we already have the policy.
[2:12:54] And we could get them.
[2:12:55] So I'm like, do we not want to have it?
[2:13:00] It almost feels like it's a sneak policy decision,
[2:13:03] like we're taking this opportunity
[2:13:05] to remove crematoriums and amphitheaters as things
[2:13:09] in the rural area.
[2:13:11] And I'm not sure that feels like one
[2:13:13] that doesn't feel like an intuitive thing for me
[2:13:15] to make a decision on today.
[2:13:17] And I'm not sure it feels like a thing i necessarily
[2:13:19] even agree with right.
[2:13:21] Because crematoriums are like funeral homes, but they're also,
[2:13:25] unlike funeral homes, they're much more in my experience,
[2:13:30] having burned up to family members, they are lighter touch.
[2:13:35] They're smaller facilities because they're not
[2:13:37] doing the same degree of wraparound services.
[2:13:41] So can I understand why this is in front of us
[2:13:45] in this exact moment?
[2:13:47] Absolutely.
[2:13:48] So i will address the two questions separately
[2:13:51] because they're on the same line,
[2:13:53] but they are actually two different reasons.
[2:13:55] The crematoriums is a public like service kind of thing
[2:14:01] that we would normally put in our commercial districts
[2:14:06] or industrial districts per our comprehensive plan.
[2:14:09] So businesses that people come to from all around the county
[2:14:14] are intended to be located in our development areas
[2:14:18] not in our rural areas.
[2:14:20] So that's the reasoning for the crematoriums.
[2:14:23] And then also the services that they would need.
[2:14:27] As far as utilities.
[2:14:28] So that's just kind of bringing it into line
[2:14:30] with what we have now.
[2:14:31] We have different crematoriums than we did in 1980
[2:14:34] when this was first adopted.
[2:14:36] The outer drama districts sorry, the elder drama theaters
[2:14:40] are something that we acknowledge.
[2:14:43] Hey, this seems like it should be something
[2:14:45] that we actually really like.
[2:14:47] It's something that's really interesting.
[2:14:49] How does it play into all the other outdoor
[2:14:52] recreational things that we want in the rural area?
[2:14:55] And so when we're looking at that,
[2:14:58] we're trying to consolidate uses.
[2:14:59] Well, what's the difference between outdoor drama theater
[2:15:02] and an outdoor acoustic amphitheater?
[2:15:05] How do we treat these two different uses
[2:15:08] that are basically the same?
[2:15:09] Well, right now, you can do one in the rural area,
[2:15:13] but you can't do the other one.
[2:15:15] And we need to investigate that more more in depth.
[2:15:19] And that is on the current work plan
[2:15:22] for the rural area plan really are
[2:15:24] uses plan that I believe will be forthcoming from the
[2:15:29] from the planning division.
[2:15:32] OK Let's kind of engage in a little bit more
[2:15:37] discussion on this.
[2:15:39] Like to just having not thought deeply about either of these two
[2:15:42] issues prior to this moment My instinct is I
[2:15:46] like both of these in the rural area,
[2:15:53] the disposition of human remains is
[2:15:55] a right of cultural significance and community significance.
[2:15:59] It's a community based thing.
[2:16:01] We just heard from people talking
[2:16:03] about the history and the place based nature of coal spill.
[2:16:08] A think to slurp black rural communities have
[2:16:10] is their own funeral parlor.
[2:16:12] It's like a very anchoring thing in a culture.
[2:16:17] And while I appreciate the point you're making,
[2:16:21] I think you need the ability to have
[2:16:23] a funeral parlor in the rural area
[2:16:25] because it's a place anchoring service.
[2:16:27] And so that kind of almost stepped in that way.
[2:16:31] I'm agreeing with your point.
[2:16:32] Right.
[2:16:33] Crematorium is should be treated like other kinds
[2:16:35] of funeral parlors.
[2:16:36] But I maybe in this moment in realizing
[2:16:39] that we don't allow funeral parlors period in the rural area
[2:16:42] And so maybe that's the thing I'm concerned with.
[2:16:45] And I think I might be having similar for different reasons.
[2:16:50] Concern on outdoor drama theaters because both of these I
[2:16:54] heard of like I can see concerns in the rural area, right?
[2:16:58] Like I don't want to put Wolf Trap on Langhorne Road
[2:17:02] because I don't know that we can support it right now.
[2:17:05] But I want Wolf Trap to be in Albemarle County
[2:17:10] and I would think it would belong in the rural area.
[2:17:14] So like both of these feel like uses.
[2:17:17] I hope if I say yes to this first bullet,
[2:17:22] we aren't leaving it alone.
[2:17:25] We are going to come back and actually
[2:17:27] talk about how we want to locate and place those uses,
[2:17:31] because both of those, I think have tremendous value
[2:17:33] in our rural area.
[2:17:35] And I think it sounds like that's kind of the plan
[2:17:39] that we will have a more fulsome discussion of this later.
[2:17:42] And right now, we're just tidying them up and cleaning
[2:17:44] them together with like uses.
[2:17:46] But I want to just clarify, am I going
[2:17:48] to get another crack at this to talk about where it does belong?
[2:17:52] Yeah, absolutely.
[2:17:53] If specially with your note about the funeral
[2:17:55] homes being something that maybe we do need in the rural area
[2:17:59] that that would be something that I think
[2:18:02] should be investigated thoroughly
[2:18:03] and should be part of a community discussion.
[2:18:08] Also, just kind of the clarification
[2:18:09] on the outdoor drama theater that is currently
[2:18:12] allowed in the rural area is only
[2:18:14] for a historical production.
[2:18:17] How about an event that happened in Albemarle County's history
[2:18:21] that such a funny use to have?
[2:18:24] What a funny thing.
[2:18:25] What a funny county.
[2:18:27] OK For that.
[2:18:30] For the 200th anniversary.
[2:18:32] We had a pageant and a cast of thousands pageant
[2:18:35] for where we been.
[2:18:36] I was little history, man.
[2:18:39] Oh, okay.
[2:18:41] Oh, I'm stepping aside.
[2:18:43] That the rest of this?
[2:18:45] Yeah, sure.
[2:18:47] The the major minor change you know some of the comparable uses
[2:18:52] previously were broken into class A
[2:18:55] and I immediately think i might not
[2:18:58] want I might want enumerated classes subdivide into use
[2:19:04] rather than major minor subdividing a use
[2:19:07] because I have more than two subdivisions
[2:19:10] is major minor got to be granular enough for all uses.
[2:19:15] It's it possible.
[2:19:17] We outgrow the level of granularity
[2:19:19] that offers it's possible.
[2:19:21] We don't have any uses currently that I
[2:19:24] believe are really divided into three categories like that.
[2:19:27] We only have things that are divide that are similar,
[2:19:30] that are divided into something that falls under this that
[2:19:34] may not have been obvious is I don't feel repair shops and body
[2:19:39] shops.
[2:19:40] So those are basically the same thing.
[2:19:42] They look very similar.
[2:19:44] One has a much higher impact.
[2:19:46] So that becomes the automobile repair shop major.
[2:19:51] And then everything else falls under minor
[2:19:54] is currently the subdivision of uses always going
[2:19:57] to mean the same thing.
[2:19:59] Like, is it always going to mean ministerial versus legislative?
[2:20:04] No, not always.
[2:20:06] Is the goal for it to always mean the same thing.
[2:20:08] Ministerial versus legislative.
[2:20:10] Some of them are actually differentiations on the use
[2:20:13] performance standards.
[2:20:15] So how many buildings you can have the home
[2:20:20] occupations is a good example of this.
[2:20:23] We have men are home occupation and are just, you know,
[2:20:27] administrative, maybe administratively approved
[2:20:31] with basically a formality.
[2:20:33] It's just a home office for most people.
[2:20:36] But a major home occupation.
[2:20:38] You have an exterior building and we require a site visit.
[2:20:41] So it's really a process as opposed
[2:20:44] to a ministerial versus us.
[2:20:46] But administrative understood.
[2:20:48] I guess I'm just thinking, if we're
[2:20:51] going to have a uniform subdivision type,
[2:20:56] I might intuitively assume like going through
[2:21:00] as a lawyer preparing to outline for something.
[2:21:03] That's the context in which I normally
[2:21:04] read other counties codes.
[2:21:06] Oh, I might assume that those breakdowns are always
[2:21:10] going to mean the same thing I can see why.
[2:21:14] Maybe that's not possible, but oh, that's just a hiccup.
[2:21:17] I see that presenting major here means you bump up
[2:21:21] to legislative review.
[2:21:22] Major here means it's you're still
[2:21:25] saying it administrate of review,
[2:21:27] but you have to have an extra toilet.
[2:21:29] You know I. I don't know that I have
[2:21:33] anything I would change on my not in my head today on that.
[2:21:37] But that's just a consideration that would pop in my head
[2:21:40] There's the change in language on manufactured home
[2:21:42] communities.
[2:21:43] I'm assuming based on our previous conversation
[2:21:45] about the rural area, this is also something
[2:21:47] that we might have a more fulsome discussion
[2:21:50] because currently, we have no subdivision and one use type
[2:21:55] right?
[2:21:56] That is not the case in all localities.
[2:22:00] Plenty of Virginia localities have multiple subdivisions ends
[2:22:02] of types of use in the same way we have our 1 or 2.
[2:22:07] Appreciate it.
[2:22:08] Well, our one, our two are for etc.
[2:22:12] You might have one and two and three that
[2:22:16] are different kinds of mobile homes of varying
[2:22:19] types of density and the level of infrastructure here,
[2:22:22] we don't have that as far as I know.
[2:22:26] Last I checked home.
[2:22:28] And this doesn't contemplate that change.
[2:22:30] Does that mean that change is not being contemplated
[2:22:32] or does that mean.
[2:22:34] It's not in front of us today So one of the things
[2:22:38] that the General Assembly did adopt
[2:22:41] in July, which I'm sure you're familiar with, essentially just
[2:22:45] treats manufactured homes as a stick built homes everywhere.
[2:22:49] So we aren't changing for the rural area, at least
[2:22:53] how we do the subdivisions the new term in the in the use
[2:23:01] tables is a manufactured home community that does
[2:23:05] have a different essentially a different density than a stick
[2:23:11] built. And that's for rentals.
[2:23:13] So where you're only renting, you know,
[2:23:16] a pad and then you put your own manufactured home on the pad
[2:23:20] and the land is not subdivided.
[2:23:22] So that's really the two different ways
[2:23:24] that either you subdivided it like a normal neighborhood
[2:23:28] or you have the communities where everything is
[2:23:32] a little bit closer together.
[2:23:33] It's intended to be more affordable
[2:23:36] and the land is not actually subdivided.
[2:23:38] Right.
[2:23:39] I, absolutely.
[2:23:40] I want to make sure we that I'm correctly understanding
[2:23:44] the impact of the General Assembly's legislation
[2:23:46] on this having not thought about it deeply.
[2:23:50] But I, I understood it to be an anti subordinate action rather
[2:23:55] than an anti classification kind of rule, something that
[2:23:59] says that we can't non preferentially treat,
[2:24:05] we can't require for more onerous land use restrictions
[2:24:10] that we would not apply to a comparable position
[2:24:12] state built house.
[2:24:14] But I didn't think it prevent us from having permissions
[2:24:18] for it hired entity than we might otherwise
[2:24:21] provide a state built house.
[2:24:24] And I'm just making sure I understand that correctly,
[2:24:27] that as far as I understand it, is correct.
[2:24:30] OK.
[2:24:31] We don't currently allow a higher density of manufactured
[2:24:34] home in the rural area.
[2:24:36] So this does not this does not bring that up.
[2:24:38] I don't know whether that I don't believe
[2:24:41] that would be something that would fall
[2:24:43] under the recommendations from housing Albemarle,
[2:24:45] although that may just be an interpretation question.
[2:24:49] I, absolutely.
[2:24:50] I think you're right.
[2:24:52] I also think this board has wrung
[2:24:55] its hands on this issue a bit and not to speak for the board,
[2:24:58] but I have expressed an interest in revisiting that question
[2:25:04] because currently from a dollars and cents perspective,
[2:25:09] in part thanks to our friends on the Service Authority,
[2:25:14] it does not seem economically feasible to build them elsewhere
[2:25:19] and and I think if we're not having that conversation,
[2:25:22] then we're not really having a conversation about mobile homes.
[2:25:27] And I realize that was not really what this draft that's
[2:25:31] in front of us is doing.
[2:25:32] But it was there.
[2:25:33] And so I'm asking the questions.
[2:25:34] I apologize.
[2:25:35] I this is my last thing.
[2:25:38] So i apologize.
[2:25:39] Chair Can you explain to me one more time that the gun club.
[2:25:44] It sounds like it.
[2:25:46] Gun clubs were previously an accessory use that was always
[2:25:50] approvable with all other clubs and you're making them separate
[2:25:54] club Is that a fair categorization
[2:25:57] And so the current ordinance does not mention gun clubs
[2:26:03] anywhere except for 5.1.02, which is the supplemental
[2:26:08] regulations and the regulation reads there,
[2:26:12] regardless of any zoning district regulation,
[2:26:14] gun clubs and shooting ranges shall be permitted by special
[2:26:18] use permit only and that is underneath the clubs and lodges,
[2:26:21] supplemental regulations.
[2:26:22] So it's a type of club in Lodge, it's
[2:26:26] not necessarily accessory to a club and larger to type.
[2:26:28] And it's saying that if the type of club that you are trying
[2:26:31] to open is a gun club or a shooting range,
[2:26:35] regardless of what the Use commission says elsewhere,
[2:26:39] it has to be by special use permit.
[2:26:40] I understand which one makes it confusing, what
[2:26:44] one needs to do to create a shooting range
[2:26:46] and to makes it so that all shooting ranges
[2:26:48] have to be social clubs.
[2:26:50] If I'm reading that correctly, that's a consequence.
[2:26:53] I think that the assumption is that they
[2:26:56] are okay so that's helpful.
[2:26:57] I'm also just thinking there are gun clubs that
[2:26:59] don't have physical locations.
[2:27:01] I have a friend who created a gun club that
[2:27:02] doesn't have its own range.
[2:27:04] They go to other ranges.
[2:27:05] What does it mean to be a gun club?
[2:27:07] I think this makes sense.
[2:27:08] Thank you for explaining all I got.
[2:27:11] Supervisor Mitchell.
[2:27:12] Great.
[2:27:13] Thanks.
[2:27:13] Thanks.
[2:27:13] I have Appreciate it.
[2:27:15] I've been waiting for the image of all of us.
[2:27:18] I didn't see it.
[2:27:19] So if you're still to come.
[2:27:21] But to answer your questions briefly.
[2:27:23] Yes.
[2:27:24] And yes.
[2:27:25] And i'm encouraged also to hear that this is intended
[2:27:28] to simplify the process.
[2:27:30] One thing to consider, I know you're
[2:27:32] I think you mentioned that yourself there yourself
[2:27:36] extracting where items that are self extracting therefore
[2:27:41] already in Virginia code are being removed Yeah.
[2:27:46] So the self executing sections of the code of Virginia area
[2:27:51] is things like this ordinance This
[2:27:54] is intended to make places better and protects the water
[2:28:01] and provide light and air and all of those lists of things.
[2:28:06] There are many, many lists that are like that in the ordinance.
[2:28:10] We are not copying them into this new ordinance
[2:28:13] unless it's something that we really
[2:28:15] feel like makes a good impact.
[2:28:16] Got it.
[2:28:17] So it's not necessarily process related things.
[2:28:20] It's more sort of background information.
[2:28:21] Yeah we have a lot of the background information.
[2:28:24] If there is a process that the Code of Virginia has,
[2:28:28] then we're not copy into our ordinance.
[2:28:30] So could the the state.
[2:28:32] They might change those regulations.
[2:28:34] And in fact, they did recently.
[2:28:36] Yeah, they changed a review timeline.
[2:28:38] And so now if we weren't doing zoning modernization,
[2:28:41] we would need to go through and change our entire ordinance
[2:28:43] where we have those review timelines written down.
[2:28:46] And so now we just need to do what the state says.
[2:28:49] Yeah, my only $0.02 is if there are areas that you notice,
[2:28:53] when you're looking at it that could potentially
[2:28:55] be helpful for applicants to reference.
[2:28:57] Maybe there's a link to the state code or something
[2:29:00] that to back up because that's an evergreen document.
[2:29:03] You can kind of, you know the link is there,
[2:29:05] maybe the link will expire, but it might also
[2:29:07] track to an update I also had the same similar question
[2:29:13] that Supervisor Pruitt had, which
[2:29:15] was those four recommended use changes felt to me like why not
[2:29:20] put those in into phase three?
[2:29:23] They are they.
[2:29:25] Is it beneficial to get public input for those?
[2:29:27] Is the one thing that felt to me like it
[2:29:30] was a bit of a subjective change that might
[2:29:32] benefit from public input.
[2:29:33] So that's, again, my $0.02.
[2:29:36] Is it helpful to leave those the way they are and pull them out?
[2:29:39] We addressed them in phase three because I think a lot
[2:29:42] of our discussion was sort of around similar conversations
[2:29:44] that we'll be having in phase three or is it is it better
[2:29:48] to put them here ?
[2:29:51] Yeah, I think these were really highlighted and selected
[2:29:55] because we don't get applications for these.
[2:29:57] So I got arguably the public doesn't care about them.
[2:30:01] That's obviously not true.
[2:30:02] The public cares about everything,
[2:30:03] but we have not received any applications for these
[2:30:08] and they are things that are very, very in line
[2:30:15] with the comprehend to plan and also we
[2:30:18] are trying to shorten the lists of all the uses.
[2:30:21] So these are things that just, you know, unnecessarily
[2:30:24] pad the list.
[2:30:24] They're only in 1 or 2 districts.
[2:30:26] So it's not really something that is contributing anything
[2:30:32] to the new ordinance.
[2:30:35] I totally get it.
[2:30:37] I think for me, just that the fact
[2:30:40] that they had there hasn't been an application for 25 years
[2:30:44] to me doesn't remove it from consideration Who knows, Right?
[2:30:48] Somebody might come along tomorrow with an application.
[2:30:51] Just a thought.
[2:30:52] And then a clarification and I'm done.
[2:30:55] No, I think I'm saying this you can correct me
[2:30:59] if I'm not saying the right thing,
[2:31:02] that none of what we were looking at today is and does
[2:31:06] doesn't expand or restrict existing permissions
[2:31:08] within the ordinance.
[2:31:10] Correct.
[2:31:10] Except for these four things on the screen.
[2:31:14] Right now.
[2:31:14] Yeah.
[2:31:15] OK.
[2:31:16] Thank you.
[2:31:16] That was also why I called out those four.
[2:31:19] Thank you.
[2:31:20] All right.
[2:31:21] I'm a yes on your initial questions.
[2:31:24] We're a little past time for this item.
[2:31:26] I just I can offer my comments at a different point.
[2:31:29] Do you have what you need from the board.
[2:31:31] And what you've heard?
[2:31:33] Any clarifications needed I think
[2:31:35] before we come to public hearing,
[2:31:40] I think we would just want kind of like a general round
[2:31:45] Robin feeling on.
[2:31:47] Should we put these uses back?
[2:31:49] Because we've had two members of the board say,
[2:31:52] yes, they should be put back until we talk about
[2:31:55] them more in more engagement.
[2:31:57] So this was kind of getting to the second question, which
[2:32:02] was the types of changes expected for this phase.
[2:32:07] So is, is this in expectations for this phase or do we need
[2:32:11] to pull back on this ?
[2:32:14] All right.
[2:32:16] Did you have additional comment?
[2:32:17] I'm not sure I was in the pull back
[2:32:19] until public discussion on certainly the of the theater one
[2:32:25] because I would love it if four county players could have things
[2:32:33] here rather than just up in Orange County at the ruins.
[2:32:36] So the I would agree that while the original one out on
[2:32:41] and beaver Dam out there on 250 was people
[2:32:44] were concerned about traffic.
[2:32:45] But it was a totally different time
[2:32:47] and the roads and everything were very different.
[2:32:50] And i would expect.
[2:32:51] I mean, I would dearly love to be able to have a workshop type
[2:32:55] place here.
[2:32:55] Maybe not with 10,000 people at a time, but a couple thousand.
[2:32:59] We could certainly handle.
[2:33:00] So I hope that there'll be more discussion about that
[2:33:03] going forward.
[2:33:04] And so I'm my yes is a yes with that caveat in there
[2:33:11] So it sounds like a I don't hear strong feelings to keep them
[2:33:14] out, but sounds like put the back is the okay.
[2:33:18] Yeah, I would also agree.
[2:33:20] And I thought supervisor Pruitt made a lot of good points
[2:33:24] earlier.
[2:33:25] I think that as we save for later.
[2:33:29] So does that clear it offers a less clear
[2:33:33] and I will I will note for country players, unfortunately
[2:33:39] would not be able to operate under outdoor drama theater
[2:33:42] unless they're re-enacting a battle that
[2:33:46] happened in our county.
[2:33:47] So what I neglected to say was we need
[2:33:49] to change that description.
[2:33:50] Yes, in the public process so that it can do things better.
[2:33:54] Yeah.
[2:33:55] Yeah.
[2:33:56] Unless you interpret Shakespeare in the realm of an album
[2:33:59] or county battle, absolutely.
[2:34:01] I think what staff has suggested to remove on the four things
[2:34:06] on the previous slide actually do all makes sense.
[2:34:09] If we understand we're revisiting
[2:34:11] in a more substantive way.
[2:34:12] Yeah.
[2:34:13] The yes it is particularly the first two,
[2:34:17] which I feel pretty strongly.
[2:34:18] It sounds like other people feel strongly about the first two,
[2:34:21] but I think as an intermediary non substantive step type,
[2:34:26] I don't want to make you keep dust on your work table
[2:34:31] while you're going into stage three, right?
[2:34:34] I don't know.
[2:34:35] That's it sounds like I would imagine that no matter
[2:34:38] what we do, if a theater wanted to set up shop,
[2:34:40] it would figure out a way to get to us to be able to approve it
[2:34:43] wherever they were.
[2:34:44] But that is a i'd I'd love to have to see how
[2:34:49] that conversation plays out.
[2:34:50] No, knowing a little bit about it,
[2:34:52] what it would mean in the rural area.
[2:34:55] But it is a clear what we've I don't
[2:34:58] know that I'm clear on what we are saying to do,
[2:35:00] but the it sounds like the for the theater
[2:35:03] use and the crematoriums, we're going to leave that.
[2:35:06] And it can address it later.
[2:35:08] We can maybe discuss it.
[2:35:09] But that's the piece that we're saying.
[2:35:11] Keep it.
[2:35:12] So when you say leave it, leave it in the ordinance
[2:35:15] and then we will take it out in phase three
[2:35:18] or change it or expand it or do additional research, which
[2:35:23] is to have a further discussion and some
[2:35:27] there currently, two small legacy uses that are narrow,
[2:35:32] that are permissible.
[2:35:33] I think we want to keep the permissible narrow underutilized
[2:35:36] things in place and potentially have a discussion on expanding
[2:35:41] them rather than remove them in the interim
[2:35:44] to have a later discussion on expanding them.
[2:35:46] Well, that's okay.
[2:35:48] Great.
[2:35:49] Sorry to step on your brother.
[2:35:50] No.
[2:35:51] Know.
[2:35:51] That was good.
[2:35:52] Glad you stay with it.
[2:35:53] Any other things?
[2:35:55] All right.
[2:35:56] We were slated to go to recess at 3:30,
[2:35:59] so let's we're running a little behind,
[2:36:02] but let's just do a ten minute and we'll come back at 350.
[2:36:05] Did you have everything you needed before we moved to do?
[2:36:08] We need to take make sure that we
[2:36:15] know where our next steps are.
[2:36:17] We really just quickly run through that.
[2:36:21] We are drafting currently article
[2:36:23] seven and eight, which is used performance standards
[2:36:26] and community design standards.
[2:36:29] And then we will be working with the building, the topic based
[2:36:35] discussion groups for phase three.
[2:36:37] So that's kind of like happening in the background
[2:36:39] right now And then we are going to be coming back
[2:36:44] for our public hearings in December and in January.
[2:36:48] So just letting everybody know where that is Thank you.
[2:36:53] All right.
[2:36:55] We are recess.
[2:36:57] Well, something here And to be able to host it.
[2:47:51] All right, everyone, we are back from our recess
[2:47:55] and we are ready to move to item number
[2:47:58] 11 strategic plan execution analysis and reporting
[2:48:02] or the spirit Report for fiscal year 26.
[2:48:06] And Mr. Flint's with us in the lead us through this item.
[2:48:11] And afternoon.
[2:48:12] OK.
[2:48:13] So you received our Speer report and today we're
[2:48:16] just going to walk through that information
[2:48:18] and just highlight, obviously, there's a lot of metrics
[2:48:22] and a lot of great work in it today.
[2:48:25] This is going to be a highlight of those things.
[2:48:29] And it is also provided online for our community as well.
[2:48:33] And so this is going to be a two part presentation in a I'm
[2:48:36] also going to introduce one of my staff, Gabe, Jacqueline.
[2:48:40] He is going to go through the report as well.
[2:48:43] He plays a key role on our team and managing all of the metrics
[2:48:48] and data work with our departments
[2:48:50] and want to also acknowledge all of the department leadership
[2:48:53] that's here today.
[2:48:55] There are my backup plan in case you ask a really hard question
[2:48:58] that we don't have the answer to.
[2:49:00] But now that all joking aside when I acknowledge them,
[2:49:03] this has been a journey that Albemarle
[2:49:05] has been on for several years, we
[2:49:08] keep getting better and better and refining it as we go,
[2:49:11] but we could not do it without their dedication and their staff
[2:49:16] managing the work.
[2:49:17] And measuring that work.
[2:49:19] So as I said you know, this is a program,
[2:49:22] it is more than just data.
[2:49:25] We're going to walk through the report
[2:49:27] and then we're going to also talk
[2:49:28] about what's next So the program,
[2:49:33] you know, you've seen this slide before,
[2:49:35] but it's important for the public
[2:49:36] to understand why we do this work and why we in Albemarle
[2:49:41] believe that the measurement is so important.
[2:49:44] And so we talk about where are we succeeding,
[2:49:48] where should we pause or stop or where are we not making headway?
[2:49:53] Is it about our staff, our structure, our systems, lack
[2:49:58] of resources and where we in trouble?
[2:50:01] What what areas do we need to refocus or redeploy
[2:50:05] something or re-imagine here?
[2:50:07] And so that data is really something
[2:50:09] that helps our decision making.
[2:50:11] So we want to continue you to have accountability
[2:50:14] with our staff, our processes, our partnerships We also want
[2:50:19] to have that decision making.
[2:50:21] But we want to be transparent to our community about the work
[2:50:24] that we're doing, how hard we're working.
[2:50:27] And in some areas where we may not be meeting expectations.
[2:50:32] And then again, there's community outcomes.
[2:50:34] This information is not to be stagnant,
[2:50:37] but to be used to make change and to continue to improve.
[2:50:43] So as you'll see, this spear, our strategic plan
[2:50:47] and officer sphere is just one component
[2:50:49] of a much larger picture.
[2:50:51] You are just discuss 8044 this morning or this afternoon.
[2:50:56] There is an amazing award that the team received
[2:50:59] and great work from Community Development and others,
[2:51:02] but that is that 20 year long range view
[2:51:06] But when you look at your strategies,
[2:51:09] you need to break that down.
[2:51:11] And so we're looking at those strategic plans.
[2:51:14] And then with that how are we performing?
[2:51:17] How we're performing on that progress,
[2:51:19] then informs our annual budget.
[2:51:21] And so we work together to make sure
[2:51:24] that these things stay connected and consistent.
[2:51:28] So with that, I'm going to bring Gabe
[2:51:31] and he can introduce himself and his role
[2:51:35] and I'm going to help him guide through this report.
[2:51:40] Good afternoon.
[2:51:41] Board Gabriel Giacalone Performance measurement Program
[2:51:44] Manager I'll be walking us through part two
[2:51:47] of this presentation where we will cover
[2:51:50] each strategic plan, goal sharing, key metrics
[2:51:52] and several stories of success from our fly
[2:51:55] 26 Starting off with Goal one Safety and Wellbeing.
[2:52:00] We have a number of metrics on this
[2:52:02] and the next slide keeps an app's metrics are both
[2:52:08] looking very good.
[2:52:10] Fire Rescue is looking great for rural areas
[2:52:13] and wildfire rescue's Development Area response
[2:52:15] isn't quite where we want it yet.
[2:52:18] This 81% is a significant increase from last year 72%.
[2:52:22] And this is a direct result from investments made in the F2 y 25
[2:52:26] budget.
[2:52:27] And it's a great success story to get to share today.
[2:52:30] And I'll speak a little bit more about it in a few slides.
[2:52:37] Police response time metrics are similar to what
[2:52:39] we saw last fiscal year as investments
[2:52:42] that we made with the f y 26 budget
[2:52:44] have not yet come into play.
[2:52:46] And it should also be noted that we continue
[2:52:49] to see an increase in the number of calls for service over time.
[2:52:53] And year over year.
[2:52:55] So that is always at play here.
[2:52:57] With that said, as of very recently,
[2:53:00] we have seen early signs of a positive shift in these success
[2:53:04] rates due to f y 26 investments and some amazing data
[2:53:09] center strategic deployment by police
[2:53:11] If we continue to see these trends,
[2:53:14] those improvements may be reflected in next year's fire
[2:53:16] report.
[2:53:18] But we are keeping a close eye here
[2:53:20] as we continue to prioritize this and carry out
[2:53:22] the recommendations of the recent public safety staffing
[2:53:26] studies and now some great stories of success.
[2:53:33] F f y 26 With safety and well-being.
[2:53:37] First year we have a story about our morals Heart
[2:53:39] team at the forefront of research and facilitation,
[2:53:42] where they presented at an international conference
[2:53:44] and were recognized as leaders in their field.
[2:53:47] And gave two presentations on their work
[2:53:50] Our next story in December 2025 County leadership gathered
[2:53:55] for a continue City planning event where
[2:53:58] we ran through several crisis scenarios and a tabletop
[2:54:00] exercise.
[2:54:02] And these activities allowed our executive team and department
[2:54:05] leadership teams to role play how their departments would
[2:54:08] collaborate in the event of a crisis
[2:54:11] And then lastly, as I mentioned before, in f y 26,
[2:54:15] we saw the real impact of county investments
[2:54:17] with the additional response resources that
[2:54:20] were allocated to Seminole Trail and North Garden districts back
[2:54:22] then.
[2:54:23] F y 25 These resources were first
[2:54:26] deployed in January 2026 and immediately improved response
[2:54:30] time and reliability in those districts.
[2:54:37] All right.
[2:54:37] Go to metrics and go to Brazilian equitable
[2:54:41] and engaged community.
[2:54:43] We have three key metrics for f y 26.
[2:54:46] The first is our expected reduction in GHG emissions
[2:54:50] from f, y 26 climate projects.
[2:54:53] We did a great job here in reaching 95% of our goal
[2:54:56] and our climate team is very proud of their work
[2:54:58] here on a number of projects that made this happen.
[2:55:02] Our second metric here is what we
[2:55:05] wanted to meet 100% of the pollution reduction
[2:55:08] requirements mandated by the Chesapeake Bay team D L
[2:55:12] standards.
[2:55:13] And these standards are generally concerned
[2:55:15] with the amount of pollution that localities
[2:55:18] are sending to the Chesapeake Bay through their waterways
[2:55:21] and thanks to many efforts largely including the biscuit
[2:55:24] run stream restoration, we reached
[2:55:26] 100% of these requirements.
[2:55:27] And that's why Texans are fantastic story
[2:55:30] to bring to you today.
[2:55:32] And lastly, on the engagement front,
[2:55:34] we held 18 get engaged in local government
[2:55:37] pop up events and exceeded our target for unique interactions,
[2:55:40] reaching over 3800 people at those events
[2:55:47] and some stories out of goal to starting with the climate
[2:55:51] summit.
[2:55:52] The climate summit in October 2025
[2:55:55] brought Albemarle County High School students
[2:55:57] together with county staff and community organizations
[2:56:00] to explore local climate challenges.
[2:56:02] Equity and solutions while building climate literacy
[2:56:05] and civic engagement are the biscuit
[2:56:09] run stream restoration, which I mentioned earlier,
[2:56:11] was a huge success.
[2:56:13] Albemarle County and the city of Charlottesville
[2:56:15] completed substantial construction on a project
[2:56:18] to restore approximately one mile of the biscuit run stream.
[2:56:22] They addressed erosion, sedimentation and habitat loss
[2:56:25] while supporting those Chesapeake Bay TMD standards
[2:56:28] that I referenced before the project included planting
[2:56:32] approximately 9800 native plants and installing 47 structures
[2:56:36] structures designed to mimic beaver dams
[2:56:38] and improve stream health.
[2:56:41] And then lastly, we have the invasive Species Management
[2:56:44] Program where we expanded our efforts to protect natural areas
[2:56:48] from invasive species, improving habitat, health
[2:56:51] and biodiversity, and long term ecosystem resilience
[2:56:55] with additional staffing and f y.
[2:56:56] 26 Active management on county parkland for invasive invasive
[2:57:00] species grew from 95 acres to 128 acres.
[2:57:08] Now for a goal, three infrastructure and placemaking.
[2:57:12] Our first metric is focused on our digital infrastructure
[2:57:15] and our efforts to improve accessibility
[2:57:16] through ADA compliance on our public website
[2:57:19] and I'm proud to say that we reached 84% compliance
[2:57:22] by the end of f y 26, and we continue to improve on that.
[2:57:27] The second and third metrics are focused
[2:57:29] on our physical infrastructure and connection
[2:57:31] through sidewalks and rides on microcap
[2:57:34] and we exceeded each of our goals
[2:57:35] here, which is another great success
[2:57:37] story to report our stories and goal three We start
[2:57:44] with some really great transportation projects, stories
[2:57:49] through the revenue sharing and smart scale programs,
[2:57:52] Albemarle County completed several major transportation
[2:57:55] improvements and f y 26 and we have upgrades and crochet.
[2:57:59] We have a new bicycle and pedestrian bridge over us.
[2:58:02] The 29 and we have new roundabouts at Route two for us
[2:58:06] to 50 and Hillsdale driving Greenbrier drive together
[2:58:10] these projects improve safety connectivity traffic flow
[2:58:12] and access for residents across the county.
[2:58:14] And I use those roundabouts a lot.
[2:58:16] And I can testify to the fact that they speed things up
[2:58:20] a second.
[2:58:22] We have the Monarch and Nation Tribute Park.
[2:58:25] This park was created through a partnership among Aramark
[2:58:28] county, Habitat for Humanity, the monarch and Indian nation
[2:58:32] and community partners to honor the Munchkins enduring
[2:58:34] connection to the land dedicated in September 2025,
[2:58:39] the Park features native plantings
[2:58:41] interpretive elements and spaces for reflection
[2:58:43] that celebrate monarch and history of resilience and living
[2:58:47] presence.
[2:58:47] And then lastly, here we have our partnership with John
[2:58:51] to improve multimodal connectivity in f y 26
[2:58:55] John's Connect Services is for 29
[2:58:57] North and crews areas saw ridership increases
[2:59:01] of 4.8% and 22.6% respectively.
[2:59:05] Collectively represent over 50,000 riders.
[2:59:08] Joint demand response saw a modest 2.1% increase over 28,500
[2:59:14] riders and local funding of 3.5 million was leveraged,
[2:59:18] with 4.9 million federal and state dollars to provide these
[2:59:22] services.
[2:59:25] All right, Go forward.
[2:59:26] Quality of life.
[2:59:27] We start with two brilliant, tactful metrics
[2:59:31] Our first metric here is the present percent
[2:59:34] of assessed real estate value from commercial sources.
[2:59:38] A longer term goal here to achieve is 15%.
[2:59:41] And I know that's been said here a lot in for y 26.
[2:59:45] We were trying to stay as close to 11.3 as possible.
[2:59:48] All the percent did drop here a bit.
[2:59:51] But given the incredible work of Ido and many big wins
[2:59:54] they supported in the past year, which
[2:59:56] we will talk about in the next slide we are still
[2:59:58] optimistic that this value will meet our longer term.
[3:00:01] 15% goal, especially when Astra's undergoes operational.
[3:00:06] The next metric we have here is supporting
[3:00:08] the creation of affordable housing units
[3:00:11] and we have reached 2576 units as of the end of f
[3:00:16] y 26 with an additional 2863 potential units
[3:00:21] currently in the pipeline.
[3:00:22] I'm given these units in the pipeline
[3:00:24] and the recent investments in affordable housing.
[3:00:26] We're optimistic that we will remain on a productive path
[3:00:29] in reaching our goal of 10,070 units created between 2019
[3:00:33] and 2040 And we have some amazing stories and milestones
[3:00:40] in our goal for this year, starting with AstraZeneca is
[3:00:44] a record breaking investment that in a futures AstraZeneca is
[3:00:48] 4.5 billion investment at remain a futures is a landmark
[3:00:51] accomplishment in economic development for this county
[3:00:54] and it reinforces the region's growing reputation as a life
[3:00:57] sciences and advanced manufac turing hub.
[3:01:00] The project is expected to create roughly 600 high quality
[3:01:03] jobs and strengthen the local biotech supply chain
[3:01:07] and next we have the expansion of pickleball courts
[3:01:10] at Darden Cow Park.
[3:01:12] Darden Cow Park now has 12 dedicated public
[3:01:15] pickleball courts following a successful community engagement
[3:01:18] partnership effort led by Albemarle County
[3:01:21] Parks and Recreation in the Albemarle County Parks
[3:01:24] Foundation, Central Virginia Pickleball and local supporters
[3:01:28] and the Court's officially opened on June 20, 2026.
[3:01:33] We have lastly here the agro spheres ribbon cutting.
[3:01:37] Agassi visits a University of Virginia
[3:01:39] startup celebrated the opening of its first commercial
[3:01:42] Biomanufacturing facility in Monroe county in April 2026,
[3:01:46] marking a major milestone for the region's
[3:01:48] agricultural biotechnology sector.
[3:01:51] And the company's success highlights
[3:01:53] the power of local research entrepreneurs
[3:01:55] and the public private collaboration
[3:01:57] to drive sustainable innovation and economic growth.
[3:02:03] Go five Education and Learning on the Education and Learning
[3:02:07] Front.
[3:02:07] We start with Albemarle Career Exploration Academy Construction
[3:02:12] on the 60,000 square foot Albemarle Career Exploration
[3:02:15] Academy or Ace Lands Land Campus advanced to near completion
[3:02:20] by the end of F y 26 and the new facility will house eight
[3:02:24] Scholars Studios and serve up to 400 students daily from
[3:02:27] Albemarle Monticello.
[3:02:29] And western Albemarle High schools with specialized career
[3:02:32] focused learning opportunities Next, we have Mountain View,
[3:02:35] upper elementary construction construction
[3:02:38] on the upper elementary reached substantial completion
[3:02:41] by the end of that, by 26, expanding the mountain View
[3:02:44] Campus alongside Mountain View Primary School,
[3:02:48] the new school will serve students in grades 3 to 5
[3:02:52] and then lastly, we have our PBC partners ships in F y 26,
[3:02:56] Albemarle County, Part partnered with PBC
[3:02:59] to provide professional development for county staff,
[3:03:02] including training in conflict resolution, planning, and time
[3:03:06] management and meeting facilitation
[3:03:08] for more than 110 employees participated across 14 sessions,
[3:03:12] strengthening workforce skills and supporting continued
[3:03:14] improvement and service delivery.
[3:03:19] And now our last goal here got six.
[3:03:21] Workforce and customer service in f.
[3:03:24] Y 26.
[3:03:25] Both of our workforce health metrics
[3:03:27] are looking very strong enough by 26
[3:03:29] and represent clear improvement and success since f y 24
[3:03:33] when this strategic plan was written and three really
[3:03:40] great stories out of goal six here
[3:03:42] we start with our supervisor conference,
[3:03:45] the supervisor conference and February 2026
[3:03:47] had more than 120 counties supervisors participate
[3:03:51] in a conference focused on employee development.
[3:03:53] Emerging technology and including Microsoft Copilot.
[3:03:57] The training equips supervisors with practical strategies
[3:04:00] and modern tools to strengthen organizational performance
[3:04:03] and streamline their work.
[3:04:06] Next, we have a really cool story
[3:04:08] about optimizing temporary employee records.
[3:04:11] Thanks to our new financial management system, the county
[3:04:14] identified an opportunity to reduce costs and improve payroll
[3:04:17] records by removing approximately I did
[3:04:20] 250 inactive temporary employee records from its system.
[3:04:24] Streamline.
[3:04:25] Streamline this process is expected to save approximately
[3:04:29] $45,000 annually in software licensing costs,
[3:04:32] while improving data accuracy.
[3:04:36] And then lastly, we have the enhanced modernization
[3:04:38] of mapping and geographic information systems.
[3:04:40] G is the county modernized its GIs services
[3:04:44] with improved search and partial tools.
[3:04:46] New sketch and measurement features and expanded
[3:04:49] data export capabilities.
[3:04:51] These upgrades make accurate spatial information
[3:04:54] more accessible, supporting greater operation and efficiency
[3:04:57] data driven decision making and a better experience
[3:05:00] for staff, partners and the public.
[3:05:02] Thank you Board for your time.
[3:05:04] And I will now hand the presentation back over
[3:05:06] to Christy for questions and close up.
[3:05:08] Thank you Sorry, there was a Q&A in there.
[3:05:17] So let me go backwards.
[3:05:20] Are there any questions about the data that you saw
[3:05:23] or the report in general?
[3:05:25] Our comments, I'd love to hear from the board.
[3:05:28] And then and then after that time,
[3:05:31] also, I'll go through a little bit of what's next.
[3:05:34] OK.
[3:05:35] Supervisor on at this took early.
[3:05:37] Yes, absolutely.
[3:05:38] I noted that when we talked about job that was a modest two
[3:05:42] point something increase.
[3:05:44] And I was wondering, since they use the word modest,
[3:05:48] I was wondering whether or not that is in competition
[3:05:51] with our micro-cap service.
[3:05:55] In other words, it's a decrease in John
[3:05:56] because there's an increase in microcap.
[3:05:59] I'm just wondering if that I'd be true or not.
[3:06:03] Mr. Sumner can come up.
[3:06:06] And because he's the one that worked with us on this metric
[3:06:11] to ask and answer that point for you.
[3:06:13] Thanks.
[3:06:14] Good afternoon.
[3:06:14] Jacob Sumner Chief Financial Officer Great question.
[3:06:17] It is not in competition as this a different level of service.
[3:06:21] We use the word modest because the other statistics that
[3:06:24] were preceding that part of the story
[3:06:26] was substantial short increases in substantial ridership
[3:06:29] and services related to the connector routes
[3:06:32] so as to point something more of a norm and normal.
[3:06:36] It is more of a status quo for that level of service
[3:06:40] as opposed to the connect service,
[3:06:42] which is seeing expansive growth.
[3:06:44] OK.
[3:06:45] Thank you And I have that.
[3:06:48] I just wanted to give a shout out.
[3:06:50] I know we did that the pickleball courts, brand
[3:06:52] new pickleball courts at Darden, how I wanted to give a shout out
[3:06:56] to the Parks and Recreation Foundation for doing.
[3:06:59] And when they me here.
[3:07:00] But I mean, for doing that because I
[3:07:03] did that was at no cost to the county that
[3:07:06] was paid for by the parks and Rec Foundation right Supervisor
[3:07:13] Malik So thank you.
[3:07:16] I'm really enjoyed seeing this evolve and learn something
[3:07:19] new every time.
[3:07:20] And I, I have some questions, but I
[3:07:23] think I'll just send them to you because it's not really as much
[3:07:27] helpful.
[3:07:27] But one suggestion I guess, that I
[3:07:29] can't resist under a goal to we talk about implementing
[3:07:34] the Climate Action Plan and biodiversity the action plan,
[3:07:36] making those part of the development review
[3:07:40] seems to be the biggest gap because we're always finding out
[3:07:44] afterwards about impacts when if we found out forehand,
[3:07:47] it would be very helpful.
[3:07:49] So I would just leave that with you to think about and others.
[3:07:53] I'll send in.
[3:07:54] Thank you.
[3:07:54] Supervisor Duncan This is all really great and helpful.
[3:07:58] I don't have any questions.
[3:08:00] Super buzzer Pruitt, I think to add.
[3:08:02] Thank you all so much Supervisor missile i
[3:08:06] don't know whether to ask this question now
[3:08:07] or to wait for the next steps, but I'll just ask it.
[3:08:11] And then you can tell me it's clear.
[3:08:13] So when we reach a goal like we've
[3:08:15] hit our 100% target, for example, whatever
[3:08:17] that goal is, what next?
[3:08:19] Do we just shelve that.
[3:08:21] And then take it off the list, or do we actually increase
[3:08:25] the target and is it.
[3:08:27] How do we do that as a, you know, an evergreen document?
[3:08:31] I will say that this board gets the drive that answer.
[3:08:36] This is the first time, you know, like I said,
[3:08:39] we've been doing this three years.
[3:08:40] Yeah.
[3:08:41] So I think we can determine together
[3:08:43] how we want that to work My profession will answer
[3:08:47] would be that you would measure and maintain
[3:08:51] that for a little while to make sure that that doesn't change.
[3:08:54] Got it.
[3:08:55] Yeah.
[3:08:55] And then it would probably become operational.
[3:08:58] Our maintain, right, Right.
[3:09:00] The again.
[3:09:01] What we'll talk about next is like the definition of strategy.
[3:09:05] OK.
[3:09:06] And when something is achieved or is
[3:09:09] starting to become so routine.
[3:09:11] Yeah.
[3:09:12] You move on to different strategies.
[3:09:15] Got great.
[3:09:16] Thank you.
[3:09:17] You're welcome.
[3:09:22] Do we have the information development area or urban area,
[3:09:28] depending on which one.
[3:09:31] If you're talking fire or police.
[3:09:36] I mean, every time I see that the number
[3:09:38] is lower than what the target is,
[3:09:40] it just reminds me of the situation
[3:09:42] that they're in with the volume of calls,
[3:09:45] you might not be able to meet that time
[3:09:48] frame because if they're on the backup call and you need.
[3:09:51] The third backup team to get to the call.
[3:09:54] So traffic could be an indication to
[3:10:00] beyond just the volume of service
[3:10:02] And I would imagine it's the same for the police response.
[3:10:05] Simon The urban area, so do we have that level of detail
[3:10:10] beyond just volume of calls, but also going look,
[3:10:15] these particular areas in the urban area
[3:10:18] because of the traffic situation also is a problem.
[3:10:21] And adds X amount of time, I think
[3:10:24] that is what is so wonderful about our Sphere report is
[3:10:28] that you are able to get a glimpse of all of the services
[3:10:32] or at least most of the services in the areas.
[3:10:36] When you want a deep dive into.
[3:10:38] So something rises to the occasion, catches your eye,
[3:10:41] you want to know more about it then
[3:10:43] that allows us to go directly to the department
[3:10:45] like you're asking and ask for those specifics
[3:10:47] and those details.
[3:10:49] And I would say absolutely Ali.
[3:10:51] Both fire rescue and the police department
[3:10:53] have a lot of information about their calls
[3:10:56] for service, what's happening in the field, why
[3:10:59] things are occurring.
[3:11:00] And so we have that information that
[3:11:02] actually is something that Gabe tracks as well
[3:11:05] and that we can dig into.
[3:11:07] I think it would behoove us to have just because of well, I
[3:11:13] mean, I rant often about transportation
[3:11:16] funding in the state.
[3:11:19] But I don't recall really diving in beyond calls for service
[3:11:24] the volume of calls and service and what that puts on the team.
[3:11:28] But discussing transportation system and how it works
[3:11:34] and what it could be adding to the delay
[3:11:36] and trying to make this because that is something
[3:11:39] that the state needs to understand,
[3:11:42] that if you're not getting your transportation on your road
[3:11:45] projects done either maintenance or better projects that need
[3:11:48] to be put into place that that's impacting
[3:11:51] public safety in a way that is beyond just saying,
[3:11:54] I don't want to sit in traffic or, you know,
[3:11:57] whatever So I'd be interested in some of that
[3:12:02] as we continue, especially with our legislative agenda
[3:12:04] and some focus that transportation,
[3:12:06] I hope we'll get throughout the fall and a couple
[3:12:09] of different venues.
[3:12:11] OK.
[3:12:11] And then the rural area, just from hearing
[3:12:14] from other counties about it, same thing
[3:12:17] for paving versus on paving for some of them.
[3:12:21] So it's more than just an urban area issue.
[3:12:23] There could be transportation projects out there
[3:12:26] that slow down the time.
[3:12:28] So even if you are well staffed and even
[3:12:30] if you had the proper ratio that you
[3:12:32] wanted for the level of service that you're receiving,
[3:12:35] do you miss the target because of infrastructure constraints?
[3:12:38] And I don't I don't know the answer.
[3:12:40] I'm assuming.
[3:12:41] So, but I don't know.
[3:12:43] I don't have any hard and fast data on that,
[3:12:47] both for our chief acting chief and chief were here The step,
[3:12:51] you know, and you see both at the same time.
[3:12:53] It makes you nervous about finances.
[3:12:55] The they're probably doing something really important.
[3:12:57] But Absolutely.
[3:12:59] And so I was like, well, Scooter,
[3:13:03] so we'll absolutely connect with them about that transportation
[3:13:06] question And I'd also like to offer for us to talk about,
[3:13:10] in the future are those targets that the department set.
[3:13:14] I think we have high expectations of ourselves
[3:13:18] and especially when it comes to public safety,
[3:13:20] they want it to always be 100%.
[3:13:24] And so there's also that of, you know, what is fair,
[3:13:28] What's a fair expectation versus that high performing one.
[3:13:32] Any other comments or questions?
[3:13:34] Yes, sir.
[3:13:36] If I may, that discussion on kind of the I've
[3:13:40] previously expressed that I find I said this particular response
[3:13:45] to our fire for a response times in that I,
[3:13:49] I don't think it's realistically possible to have 100%.
[3:13:55] And when you have a standard rate,
[3:13:58] a standard can only serve as purpose.
[3:14:01] If it's able to incentivize.
[3:14:03] And gesture toward something that's feasible.
[3:14:06] And when there's too much of a disconnect between a law
[3:14:09] and expectation and what is feasible,
[3:14:11] then it becomes a dead letter and it actually
[3:14:13] can disincentivize it's like leaning in toward that goal.
[3:14:16] So that's kind of a I thought I have along that axis.
[3:14:20] And that I think the same could probably be said of our police
[3:14:23] rural response times.
[3:14:24] But as I was sitting here thinking about this
[3:14:27] or and chair gallery where speaking it, it also it.
[3:14:31] I don't know that I need a response to this.
[3:14:35] But I am wondering if we are using spear as a storytelling
[3:14:42] tool or as a program evaluation tool I feel like it's
[3:14:48] been conceived of and talked about as a program evaluation
[3:14:51] tool, but in practice, not being the person who's feeding
[3:14:56] the inputs, it feels more like to me as a supervisor,
[3:14:59] it's being used as a storytelling
[3:15:01] tool, which isn't a problem.
[3:15:04] We need both of these things.
[3:15:06] But I think it, it will be better
[3:15:10] at whatever it is when it is very firmly one of those things.
[3:15:16] If that makes sense.
[3:15:17] A storytelling tool that says, I am a storytelling tool.
[3:15:21] And that's what I'm doing is going
[3:15:23] to be a more effective storytelling
[3:15:24] tool and a program evaluation tool that
[3:15:26] says That's what I'm doing.
[3:15:29] I'm about informing the loop.
[3:15:31] I'm not going explain that.
[3:15:34] I am about like helping inform and orient and make
[3:15:37] second decisions and follow on decisions
[3:15:39] and informing and orienting and making second on the decision
[3:15:42] is better equipped to do that.
[3:15:45] It feels right now that maybe spear spears somewhere
[3:15:47] in between.
[3:15:49] So that is a reflection I wanted to share.
[3:15:54] Supervisor Malik, did you have an just.
[3:15:56] I was just going to echo that.
[3:15:59] I think I would love to learn more at some point
[3:16:03] about the drop to ten minutes for PD response
[3:16:07] in the rural area because I mean,
[3:16:10] it's been a long time since they had
[3:16:11] to come 2014 when we were broken into,
[3:16:13] but it took them 25 minutes.
[3:16:15] And that was completely understandable
[3:16:16] because of the distance of the car accidents
[3:16:19] and other things along the way.
[3:16:21] So I just always I know that there's a great desire
[3:16:24] to improve and have, but I agree that reality
[3:16:30] is really important, especially for people considering
[3:16:32] moving to a certain place.
[3:16:34] We can't have people moving half an hour beyond where I am,
[3:16:38] and you are.
[3:16:39] And then say, I want ten minutes something or other
[3:16:42] because it's going to happen.
[3:16:44] And so it's not fair to anybody to set people up
[3:16:49] to make those kinds of issues.
[3:16:52] And the other side of the story.
[3:16:57] I would tell for the transportation issues is a
[3:17:01] and it came to mind because of the storm last Friday
[3:17:06] and four roads of four roads in and out of silver all
[3:17:10] blocked by huge trees and wires down and everything.
[3:17:14] A 36 hour power outage, but we need to also.
[3:17:18] And it's not even addressed in here.
[3:17:20] So I'm probably saying it out of turn.
[3:17:22] But figuring out improvements to our communication strategies
[3:17:25] and things like that happen is really important
[3:17:29] to keep people from going to these same places
[3:17:31] where they're going to have to turn around or stop and get
[3:17:35] stuck in large traffic jams, etc.
[3:17:37] So people were basically just parking their car
[3:17:41] in Rogers parking lot and walking home
[3:17:42] because they weren't going to get anywhere.
[3:17:45] Any other way.
[3:17:47] So that was crazy.
[3:17:48] But it's just one of these emergency resiliency planning
[3:17:52] things that as I said, doesn't really fit here.
[3:17:55] But I'll leave it on your doorstep anyway.
[3:17:57] Thank you.
[3:17:58] I and the others.
[3:17:59] All right.
[3:18:00] I think we're ready for next step.
[3:18:02] OK.
[3:18:02] Oops All right.
[3:18:06] And I'm going to respond to Supervisor Pruitt's
[3:18:10] comment I think you are right.
[3:18:14] It is both right now.
[3:18:16] And it is to try to meet our constituents where they are,
[3:18:20] which is some people do not love data like we love data.
[3:18:24] And some people just want to hear about impact.
[3:18:27] And so we have done both.
[3:18:29] But I will tell you that behind the scenes,
[3:18:30] it's a lot of program evaluation,
[3:18:32] we just don't publish that in this report,
[3:18:36] but it is published online every data point
[3:18:39] that we collect is on our website
[3:18:42] But I also would say that the more feedback we get
[3:18:45] about making it more and more program specific like
[3:18:50] and evaluation, we can make that shift and we can do that.
[3:18:54] So for this, I think I just want to go back to a few key.
[3:18:59] This.
[3:19:00] Like we've said to the point of it's
[3:19:04] a program which is Spear's one component of where
[3:19:07] we have started to measure performance and have data.
[3:19:11] And so you're very familiar with that one.
[3:19:14] We've mentioned.
[3:19:15] And there's the budgetary analysis and reporting.
[3:19:17] So that was new last year and went into the adopted budget
[3:19:22] that was really for us to speak to your decisions
[3:19:25] about putting key investment in our.
[3:19:27] I remember very vividly Joe Galloway saying okay,
[3:19:31] we invested money in this thing last year.
[3:19:34] How can we tell if that investment is working?
[3:19:37] And so we have taken that effort and built
[3:19:40] this budgetary analysis and reporting.
[3:19:42] So you'll see that more and more each year.
[3:19:45] We can track because sometimes it
[3:19:47] takes multiple years to see that impact.
[3:19:49] And then lastly, we have the delivering the services.
[3:19:52] And so you're very familiar with the annual Community Report
[3:19:56] that our communications and public engagement team
[3:19:58] has been doing for some time and our team
[3:20:01] and their team are working together
[3:20:03] to connect that more of the core services
[3:20:07] and have that data connected as well.
[3:20:09] So you'll be seeing some updates to that in the future.
[3:20:14] So this is for our public to understand kind of what's next.
[3:20:19] And that is that we're in year four of the strategic plan
[3:20:24] and we're going to begin to determine how we fund
[3:20:27] that last year of this plan.
[3:20:29] As you move through the fall and spring and then
[3:20:32] we're going to look for insight and perspective
[3:20:36] early in the process as we move through the next strategic plan
[3:20:41] effort.
[3:20:43] Sorry, I hit the wrong one.
[3:20:45] Let me go forward.
[3:20:47] And so, as you know we have this process
[3:20:50] that we're going to that you're going to be going through,
[3:20:52] where we're going to look at long range planning.
[3:20:54] You're going to take the last year of the strategic plan,
[3:20:57] try to invest and move and progress things forward.
[3:21:01] As you see fit.
[3:21:03] And then we're going to have a discussion
[3:21:06] about the next strategic plan.
[3:21:08] And that is coming up And so we'll be doing that again.
[3:21:11] And I'd also like to offer to you all that the next Speer
[3:21:14] Report is going to have multi years.
[3:21:17] And so instead of having the One year snapshot,
[3:21:20] we have enough data to show the progress over time.
[3:21:23] And so that's the next iteration.
[3:21:25] And refinement that will be providing So with that,
[3:21:30] I am done for my presentation and initial questions
[3:21:34] for your time.
[3:21:34] Go ahead.
[3:21:35] Not if you have additional session.
[3:21:38] No, of Did you want to make a comment?
[3:21:42] You leaned in like I like the I thank you.
[3:21:46] I like the idea of having a multi year snapshot
[3:21:50] that we can see and look at our progress like any others.
[3:21:54] Great.
[3:21:55] You have what you needed from us.
[3:21:58] Yes.
[3:21:58] Thank you.
[3:21:59] Thank you very much, Chris.
[3:22:01] Thank you, Chris.
[3:22:02] Thanks.
[3:22:02] All right.
[3:22:03] The next item, number 12, we're ready for our closed meeting.
[3:22:06] And we do.
[3:22:07] We have a motion to go in.
[3:22:08] I remember that the board of Supervisors convened a closed
[3:22:11] meeting pursuant to Section 2.2-37118 of the Code
[3:22:15] of Virginia under subsection eight to consult with legal
[3:22:19] counsel regarding specific legal matters,
[3:22:21] including possible agreements with AstraZeneca LP require
[3:22:25] the provision of legal advice by such counsel Second, all right,
[3:22:30] the motion has been made and seconded.
[3:22:32] Without objection that the clerk will please call the roll.
[3:22:34] Mr. Galloway.
[3:22:35] Yes, Mr. Peace Secretary.
[3:22:37] Ms..
[3:22:37] Malik Yes Mr. Mitchell.
[3:22:39] All right.
[3:22:40] Mr. Pruitt.
[3:22:40] I miss Duncan.
[3:22:42] Yes.
[3:22:43] All right.
[3:22:43] We are All right.