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All right, good afternoon. I call the Admiral County Board of Supervisors to order for our March 4th, 2026, one PM meeting here in Lane Auditorium. With us today, we have supervisor Sally Duncan of the Jack Duitt District, supervisor V. Lapisto, currently of the Ravana District, supervisor Fred Missle of the Samuel Miller District, supervisor Anne Malik of the White Hall District, supervisor Mike Pruitt of the Scottsville District and myself, supervisor Ned Galloway of the Riod District.

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Our county attorney is with us, Andy Hurick, our county executive, Mr. Jefferson, our board clerk.

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It's Claudette Borgerson, and our senior deputy clerk, Mr. Travis Morris, is manning cameras today.

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So he is with us as well.

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I want to thank the Almaro County Police Department officers who are present.

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We have Sergeant Jason Freystein with us, and Master Police Officer, Eric Ketchum.

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Thank you, gentlemen, for being with us here this afternoon.

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And with that, if everyone could please rise as you are able for the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic of which it stands on nation, under God, and in the business of liberty and justice.

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Thank you. And if everyone would please now join in a brief moment of silence.

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Thank you very much.

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Board, before we move to adopt the agenda, we do have two minor modifications here.

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At Supervisor Malix request, we are going to add to the agenda of item number 17, which is

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from the Board Committee reports and matters not listed on the agenda, a discussion regarding

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a letter from the Board requesting the Governor's veto of Senate Bill 443.

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And also for item number 10, which is the Smart Scale Transportation Project Funding Applications,

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There was an update to attachment A. In the smart scale transportation funding apps, the updated attachment was posted to the website on March 3rd, which was yesterday, but just calling that to everyone's attention as that was a change in information.

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So with that, are there any other changes to today's agenda?

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Is there a motion to adopt the final agenda as amended?

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question. Yes.

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We do have two items just FYI. We will have two items pulled from consent

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today. We'll deal with that when we get to the consent agenda motions.

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So, we have a motion made and seconded. Without objection, the clerk will please call

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the role. Missile P. Sto currently? Aye. Miss Malat? Yes. Mr. Missile? Yes. Mr.

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Pruitt? Aye. Miss Duncan? Yes. Mr. Gallaway? Yes. All right. Thank you, Board. And with that, we will move to

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brief announcements by board members. Supervisor Pruitt. I have nothing today. Thank you.

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Supervisor LePista, currently? Yes. I attended the Boston show to Boston.

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event that they had last Friday, I think some other supervisors were there, I know that

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supervisor Malik and Missile were both there and it was very interesting because and if

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you have a chance to look at their website and give your opinion on whether or not you

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would like a plane that goes from show to Boston, that's what they're looking for so there

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is a survey out there and maybe we could put that on our newsletter or something I'm not

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But there is a, they are asking for people who's interested, who would be interested in that flight of direct flight.

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So, and they're looking at enlarging the airport, enlarging the parking, having a double-bicker,

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and then larger facility, because right now when the planes back up, they actually back up onto the runway.

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we don't have one runway. So that's not good. But I mean, we get over 300 flights a day.

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I think 300 did something like that. So it's very important to support our airport. Now,

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this is going to take a long time. It's not going to be done overnight. It will take years and

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years and years because they'll have to get the funding and everything. But that's what's in the

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And the star is of a spake for the cell airport.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Supervisor Missle.

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Nothing to add.

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Thank you.

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Supervisor Duncan.

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Just one thing.

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I just wanted to point out that PC is hosting the active mobility summit tomorrow night.

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And Friday at the full factory.

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And this is kind of about the focus of the shares on the economic and social benefits

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that communities have when we have kind of active lifestyles and outdoor activities and sort

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of working towards how can we work on that more and promote that. So that looks like it'll

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be a really great event.

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Right. Thank you, Supervisor Malik.

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Thank you all very much. I do want to say I feel as if my equilibrium is returning after

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a month of total disaster during all the snow and ice and all the stress involved with that.

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And hopefully others who were similarly affected are going to be back to normal here now that

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we can see the earth and it's not six degrees anymore.

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That was bad.

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But I do have some starting opposite bad news and then good news later.

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The new March 2026 drought outlook from the NOAA drought.gov website shows that we are in a severe

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drought now and it is expected to continue for three to six months.

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So I went to a presentation at the NACO Conference from someone from NOAA talking about drought.gov and all the information that one can get there.

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I went and played on it and encouraged all of you to have a look because there's a whole lot of detail about your particular very granular detail about precipitation and a whole lot of other information which is helpful.

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But it made me feel as if I was back in 2002.

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In 2002, we were 36 inches below normal after three years of lower rainfall today.

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We are 26 inches below over the last three years, and these kinds of things can change

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very quickly, so I do want to bring people up to that.

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In the good news category, on Friday, April 17, that 11 AM is the 60-3 dedication of the

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And one will be able to drive in through the skate park and around to the hill just above the location to participate in that and I hope everybody will come.

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Secondly, it is time to sign up for your Virginia Tech sponsored and the tremendously reduced cost well water testing clinic.

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So you can contact the Cooperative Extension Office and I will also have the clerk will have this information here in case anybody would like to do it, but now's the time to sign up and get one of those spaces for $70 you get over $300 worth of water testing all sorts of different components in your well water really really important for those of us who have well water that we know what we're drinking and cooking with. And that is all I have, thank you very much.

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Great. Thank you. I do not have any announcements today. We do not have any proclamations or

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recognitions this afternoon. So that will take us to item number seven. Public comment on matters

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previously considered or currently pending before the board other than scheduled for public hearings and vice

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chair missile will read our rules for public comment.

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Thank you, Chair. During the time set aside for public comment on matters previously considered or currently

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depending before the board. Other than public schedule public hearing, as individuals may

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address the board of supervisors concerning matters previously considered by the board

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or matters that are pending before the board, other than items listed on the agenda for

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public hearing. Individuals are offered one opportunity for up to three minutes to speak at each

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board meeting. The sign-up sheet is managed by the Clark's office and up to ten persons may

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speak during each matters from the public session. Timekeeping is conducted through a timer and

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system at the podium, the green light will go on when you begin speaking which begins

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here a lot of time. The yellow light indicates you have one minute to finish speaking in

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the red light indicates your time has expired and you will be asked to end your comments.

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In order to give all speakers equal treatment and courtesy, the board requests that speakers

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adhere to the following guidelines. When addressing the board, stage a name and if you live in

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Almar al-Khani or a magistral district, address comments directly to the board as a whole, any

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written comments or other supporting material may be given to the clerk. If representing a group

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organization you may ask others present to raise their hands and recognition.

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Speakers may not share any unused time with another speaker.

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Back and forth debate is not permitted.

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Do not speak from your seat or out of turn.

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All comments are live streamed recorded and published

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on the Almar al-Khani website.

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And as a reminder, please be sure to introduce yourself

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and speak directly into the mics.

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It's a three of two up there.

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Let's look, we have five folks signed up, and we'll begin with Gary Grant.

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Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon.

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I don't always have to be first.

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I'm doing grant while I'm discreet.

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I don't think I've ever made a clear that I don't dislike any of you or your county executive

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or his staff.

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However, from time to time, I don't like some of the fears that the board does or your

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executive does, or your staff does, or don't do. So again today, I have another list.

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It's not personal, it's business. The county executive, to my knowledge, still has

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never apologize for the negative impact on people who have their personal information

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jeopardized by the county's lack of adequate online protections last year. How about this

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bullied, apologizing for him.

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Your county assessor incorrectly reassessed my property by over $33,000 for $12,26.

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That's been corrected now because I challenged my reassessment and won.

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However, I wouldn't be aware why I didn't challenge my reassessments every year for the

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40 years of owned my property in order.

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How much does the country owe property owners like me for real estate that has been assessed every market value for years?

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The millions of tax dollars, your current executive record may have been spent on the affordable housing expenditure fund, is not taxpayers responsibility.

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Don't be taking money from those of us who pay our own rents and mortgages, only to be

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first by the county executive and actions by this board to also pay for other people's

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rents and mortgages.

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A question about change in the county's snow car and expenditures for FY27 has been

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you are in an answer, whether it comes from a budget department, or comes finally from Supervisor

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Galloway himself.

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Lastly, page 20 of your county executive's F-27 record of the budget states, and I quote,

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we will provide every customer with an experience that is professional, empathetic, and responsive.

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with professional, yes, responsive at times, and pathetic, never.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, next speaker is Rob Probs.

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Good afternoon, Chair Gellaway, board members.

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I do live in Albuquerque County in the Revanna district.

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Mr. Probs, your voice is a little light, so I'm going to ask you to just lean in there and

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just go with that.

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How's that?

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Okay.

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Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity to share some comments with you this afternoon.

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I'm with a company called CEP solar, we're a Richmond-based solar development company.

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I live and work here in Album Royal County as well as a couple of my other colleagues.

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And I'm here to just provide a couple of comments as relates to the Turkey Nom solar project.

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that you guys will be taking up in the agenda later on under a couple of special exceptions.

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Firstly, I just want to commend the board for its vision and pragmatism to create a

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buy-right provision for small solar projects.

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That's, as you know, groundbreaking for the Commonwealth, and we hope to be among the first

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projects to take advantage of the buy rate provision in your solar

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ordinance.

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And it's our mission and goal to develop a project that

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not only on a work proud of, but the sport in this

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business, the community can be proud of.

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Even though it provides a streamlined process, I think

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it's even established something that certainly has a lot of

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elements to it to make sure that you have high quality projects and of course, that's what we intend to deliver a high quality project without cutting any kind of corners.

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And again, there's something that's protective of the environment and also help stabilize energy prices.

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Thank you so much. That's all. Thank you, sir.

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Thank you, next is Tom Loach.

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Good afternoon. Tom Loach with a high hold district. Several months ago, I appeared before the board.

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Bring to your attention, attention concerning deficiency found in the current land use subsidy program.

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The documentation I provided for four of you came from the 1991 report by then County Administrator Mr. Robert Tucker.

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In this report, Mr. Tucker stated that, in implementing the land use program, would entail

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additional taxis and, by necessity, this would mean shifting the cost to those who do

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not benefit from the program.

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At the time, I request a several changes to the current policy, which for years is hidden

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in the program's close from Alabama County tax payers.

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However, just like my request for a greater openness to the county government when I reviewed

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the current proposed budget for the county, I found no reference in the documentation

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to the course of land use to taxpayers. You have 40 pages of documentation describing programs

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you fund from all blessings flow to the women's initiative, but not one sentence dedicated

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to the land use program, which course taxpayers over 14 million dollars. While it is more

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responsibility as a resident of Al-Marm County, the pay tax that is responsibility to

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counter to give me a fair and accurate accounting of what taxes I'm paying. It is not

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But the right of every citizen of the county was required to pay an additional tax to

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clearly understand just how much that cost them and what it pays.

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And Mr. Secretary-Pforty states, the critics of land use are correct in their assertion

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that land use program costs the county millions of dollars per year.

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As a resident of Alabama, I have no problem in supporting rural preservation.

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However, I found myself once again reminding the board of the current situation, which we

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out that the imposition of additional taxes to only a select segment of a resident without

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disclosure, this should not continue.

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Therefore, I am once again calling for the inclusion of the county budget, the total

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cost-borne tax-pays to support the land use program.

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Two, that those who pay the additional tax must clearly see a line on on their tax, which

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to show the total cost of the tax pay and also the recent tax is levied and three, since

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The program clearly existed deserve a real character of the county, and since the county

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is second program ended the same cold, cold, that being the ACE program, then those who pay

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the additional tax to be given the choice to which program they want their tax money to

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go to.

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Did you any less would be a demonstrative violation of the county administration and board of

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their obligation to ensure a complete visibility of the system of taxation they administer?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Deal Williamson?

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Good afternoon.

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I'm Neil Williams and I serve as the President of the Free Enterprise Forum, a privately funded

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public policy organization focused on central Virginia's local governments.

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Later today, you'll be conducting a work session on the lengthy zoning modernization project.

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Designs the implementation of your recently adopted AC44 comprehensive plan.

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I'm told all the cool kids are calling this process Z-mod.

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This means folks working on this consequential three-plus year zoning rewrite might be best described as Adamars Z-Mod Squad.

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In the late 1960s, the Mod Squad series, which aired just a few years before the current development area lines were drawn,

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Squad mentor, Captain Adam Rhea, famously stated,

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the Times are a change in.

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The same is true for odd-mile county zoning ordinance.

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It's beyond time for the ordinance language and intent

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to catch up with reality.

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Many changes are needed.

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In addition to language changes,

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the Z-mod squad is seeking to implement

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up to 378 individual actions contained within the comprehensive plan.

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Well, the 300-byes form is particularly interested in the boat of supervisors finally taking

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action on a long advocated position of allowing residential and commercial and industrial

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properties.

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We also ask that you answer three questions.

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One evaluating the zoning changes suggested by the 378 proposed complex action items.

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One, does this make housing easier or harder in the development areas?

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put another way, does it make housing more or less affordable?

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Two, where the proposed change help or hinder economic development.

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And finally, number three, this is the proposed change matter.

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By focusing your energy on these four questions, you may have the community move forward or back.

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In the last 10 years, Album All County has taken huge, substantive changes to become

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more business friendly.

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Unfortunately at the same time, Album All has become less receptive to new housing within

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your occur era development areas.

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The Z-mod squad is not considering development area expansion, though they should, but the

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Next they can do is we can easier to develop properties as the AC44 company has to plan dictates

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to do anything less would be creating an ordinance as stated as the BOD Squad series is today.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next is Peter Krebs.

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Good afternoon.

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Supervisors and members of the public as well as county staff.

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I'm from my name is Peter Krebs, I'm from the Piedmont Environmental Council.

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We protect and preserve the lands and waters of the Virginia Piedmont while advocating

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for strong, healthy and resilient communities.

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I'm here to announce the Act of Mobility Summit, however, Supervisor Duncan beat me

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to it and actually probably said it better than I could.

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I'll just go out a few program notes about the summit just to give a little more detail

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color. So the mobility summit is Thursday night and Friday morning at the Wolf Actory. Thursday night

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will be a celebration of the many winds that the community has had in the last year and we're

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forward to more community winds next year. We'll have a keynote speaker named P-Deschelman,

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who's on the economic development team and Rona and also founder of an organization that

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that provides outdoor access.

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There will also be a great indication

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of my local poet, a vacation at Tolbergd.

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Then, Friday morning, we're going to have

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a special guest who I can announce,

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that's Adam Spenberger, first gentleman of Virginia.

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So he'll be there right at Monarch Log

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giving welcoming remarks.

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We're going to have two panels,

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one of the long-played local leaders

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will be moderated by our own Kevin McDermott, and also our own Enroll will be on the panel

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plus Jim Fries from the city, Jolio Monty from UBA and also one of my favorite local business owners

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at Crawbirds from Great Up, Doris Prevision Company. There will be lots of fellowship and inspiration

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throughout the both days, it's free, that'll be fit in drink, and also a bike bus to

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part of, and the downtown malls, so if you don't want to drive, you can ride your bike

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there.

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If you do choose to drive as, in all cases, with the wall factory, please arrive, I have

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Broadway Street, which I noticed was recently re-striped.

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I don't know if that'll be on our list of community wins, but there is that.

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So, yeah, we're forward to seeing you all.

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A couple of you are already signed up.

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There's still room, but we do expect to sell out.

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We're looking forward to seeing you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And last on our list is Sival Flynn.

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Good afternoon, Board.

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Sival Flynn, climate justice policy manager

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with the Community Climate Collaborative.

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Last Monday, February 23rd, Shads for City Council

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sent a letter to Fuban County Planning Commission

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and the Board of Supervisors in advance of Fulvana Planning Commission meeting.

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The meeting was to decide on some elements of the massive gas plant expansion that's being proposed for Fulvana County out by Scottsville, that I know you're all aware of.

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The Planning Commissioners ultimately decided to recommend that the Board reject the specialise permit.

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Monday, March 2nd, shall it's for the past resolution on the consent agenda ratifying the letter as an official city action.

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As you know, other residents will be impacted if this proposal goes ahead. There will be a significant increase of early death and the development and exacerbation of respiratory illnesses and cancers not to mention the environment and kind harms the real cause.

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Superviolet is aromatic, you warned us that we may need to expect up to six months more of severe drought.

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We know from the county's climate risk assessments that drought is one of the primary impacts from climate change we can expect to enjoy in the region for the foreseeable future.

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Climate change is caused by burning fossil fuels.

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Natural gas is a fossil fuel.

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Projects like these are directly responsible for outgrowth climate change impacts like drought.

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C3 had previously drafted a proposed joint resolution between the county and city, and later

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the action taken by the city, we are now asking for you to sign on to joint letter from

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local leaders in local governments across the jurisdictions that we impact by the proposal

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if it goes ahead.

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The sign on deadline is end of this month's Monday March 16th, the letter will be sent

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on March 17th, the day before the March 18th, July 9th, July 9th, July 9th, July 9th,

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Our more residents are increasingly aware of the proposal and its risks, and while we know

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it's not in the board's power to reject the proposal, supervisors, constituents will be

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happy to see a public stance from individual board members asking to vanilatorship to reject

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the proposal. As you'll see on the packet that I'll submit, supervisor privilege has already signed on.

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We hopefully anticipate adding five more names to reject this extremely damaging fund. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Who's all this?

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All right.

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Thank you to all those who came to participate in public comment today.

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Public comment is now closed and we will move to our next item on the agenda which is our consent agenda.

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Today we have two items that have been requested to be pulled from consent.

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Item 8.4, which are proposed projects for affordable housing investment fund support.

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That first request came from supervisor Duncan, and I know a few others have joined in that request.

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The second item is 8.8 SC-2025-39 Turkey-Nob Solar Farm.

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How we're going to handle these today?

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That was requested.

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That pool request was made by supervisor Malik, and I know others had some questions about that as well.

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We will address item 8.4, or I recommend we address that right after we vote on the remaining consent agenda.

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We will address item 8.8, the solar farm, at the end of the afternoon's work session in prior to our closed meeting so that we can keep our other scheduled items on schedule.

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And then if action is going to be taken, we'll take them at that time.

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Are there any other, let me look, I got another note here.

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I do not.

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Are there any other items that need to be pulled from consent that we're not previously requested?

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Is there a motion to adopt the consent agenda as amended?

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Is there a second?

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Second. All right. Without objection if a clerk would please call the roll.

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Missile P. Stoker, Lee. I. Ms. Mallick. Yes, Mr. Missile.

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All right. Mr. Prouit. I. Ms. Duncan. Yes. Mr. Galloway. Yes. Thank you, Board.

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So that will bring us to then item 8.4 proposed projects for affordable housing investment fund.

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As this is an item that all of us have had some interest in, I think it's just more

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So it's easier managed to just go through our normal speaking order.

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I'm going to, so that's supervisor Pro, it will start.

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So I'm just going to turn to supervisor Pro to get us going.

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And thank you Stacey for joining us.

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And I know Pat, he's here as well.

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If we have questions, et cetera.

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Thank you so much.

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Before I just jump in, I realized this has kind of been added

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to the docket.

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That's the thing we're going to discuss in the last 48 hours.

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Was there any component that you would want to present before?

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we just jump into questions.

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I'm gathering from the fact that there's not one on the screen that the answer is no, but I just want to confirm.

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What spacey path the director of housing and I did throw together a real quick presentation through four slides.

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If you would like me to do that real quick, which might answer some of your questions, I'm not sure.

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And spacey, you're going to definitely have to use the louder voice and into the microphone please.

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Maybe I need both microphones so that make it better.

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The mouse, sorry, the mouse is disappeared on me.

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Again, my name is Stacey Pefea.

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I am director of housing.

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And this is in response to the...

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The agenda item proposed projects for affordable housing investment fund support. And since there are some

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new members of the board, I thought I do a real quick history of the affordable housing fund. It was created in fiscal year 2019.

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Initially, to support the southward redevelopment in phase one, it has expanded over time. It's really designed to support affordable housing projects that are one time cost.

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So no ongoing support throughout this fund.

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And those projects should also support county strategic

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and housing goals.

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And historically, the funds have been distributed really

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on our first come-first serve basis.

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So at non-profit would come and say, I have a project.

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This is how much money we need to fill a gap board

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or to make the project work.

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And then through discussions, it would be decided whether or not

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staff would make recommendations to the board for funding.

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And some of you may remember, May of last year, staff came to the board with a change in

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how the Housing Fund was operated, and that came in response to discussions and comments

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with the Board and previous work sessions as well as with other community partners.

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And to look forward, particularly from the Board's perspective, on how they know the recommendations

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and staff brings forward all the best use of counting funds for those projects.

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And so what came out of the work session last year with the Board of Pre, which was a change in how the fund is administered.

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So it is now a competitive application process that will be opened once or twice a year, depending on balance of the fund.

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The affordable housing fund balance is now split in three ways.

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So 40% of the fund balance would be used for grants primarily for this person alone.

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Funds would be primarily for loans for which projects.

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And 20% of the balance would be set aside for staff identified emerging needs.

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The applications are reviewed by non-office of housing staff.

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we thought that was very important to bring some different perspective from outside of the

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housing world and applications that are submitted in my school at least 75% of the maximum

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possible school per each category in order to be considered for funding.

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And so as you saw in your gender packet four projects for applications rose to that minimum

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score of 75%. Those four projects were a rental housing project with Habitat for Humanity.

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They requested a grant in the amount of $1.35 million and a loan of $450,000.

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Support works housing. We requested an additional almost $378,000 and that is to replace a federal grant

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that was for energy efficiency work on the premier circle site at the Vista 29 that the government has discontinued

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continued at the beginning of last year or this year.

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Peedmont Housing Alliance requested 1.4 million dollars for capital improvement work

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on all of the evental properties that they have in the county.

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That work will be really instrumental in keeping those properties moving long for another

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15 to 30 years.

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And the local energy alliance partnership will lead requested $776,000 for energy efficiency

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updates with low and moderate income homeowners in the county.

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There is an additional request from staff to provide $110,000 of that 20%

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set aside for staff identify projects to support the Salvation Army's family shelters.

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There's a lack of family shelter beds for homeless families within the county so it's

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really important to get those up and running.

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Based on, I do have some numbers.

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Based on that, 80% of the fund that was available for loans or grants,

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the total available was just over $3.9 million.

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And there's four applications that scored,

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reached the scoring threshold,

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really came into $4.4 million total little over that.

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So three discussions with the review team,

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And the Chief of Human Services and Housing staff, the reviewed team really recommended providing funding or recommending to fund these four projects at a level based on the score that they scored.

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That was a bad sentence, sorry.

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So, as you can see, if habitat scored 76% of the maximum total scores, then the reviewed team recommended providing 76% of the total funding ask.

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If the board approves, funding for all of those projects, there would be, I did have that

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written down somewhere, about $485,000 left for loans and grants for future projects,

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that money could be rolled over into the next fiscal year and use for projects with the

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next funding round.

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The additional money that is set aside for staff projects would equal if approved for the

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Salvation Army shelter.

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There would be an additional $882,000 remaining to be used for staff identified projects

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and staff has a few on the radar that will be coming forward later this summer and into

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the fall.

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There is include a potential landlord risk mitigation fund, a potential family preservation

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in housing assistance pilot program, and assistance with the emergency shelter being considered

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by the city.

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That's all of my presentation at the moment.

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Any questions you have on HEPIDASK answer?

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Thank you, and thank you, Supervisor Prue, for requesting she do the presentation.

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Thank you.

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I think, as you probably anticipated, you bit one of the questions, but I just want to make

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sure I'm clarifying a question I came in with that I thank you answered, but...

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both eye looking at the spreadsheet that's contained in the consent agenda and members of the public, including applicants,

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express the concern of, oh, this does not add up to equal the total amount in the AFUnd,

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whereas the remaining 1.5 million, it's the 20% set aside for staff identified emergency.

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Some of which we've already identified, but it's not in this request in front of us.

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that. This does, I just, this is more of a conversation, kind of question. It is a 20%

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earmark per funding cycle. We're now actually at the end of a budget cycle and we're

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considering another budget and we have not already dispersed the emergency fund, as we get

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into a round where we might be re-infusing new money into the housing trust fund before we've

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down the emergency fund. Is this a context that y'all have already considered? Do you expect

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to fully spend down the emergency reserve? What's it going to be 20 percent of in the future

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if we don't, right? Because you're going to be carrying over a previous 20 percent of our

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guy, the new 20, you take my point. I understand. That's a great question. At the moment,

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we are looking at using a good majority that get $182,000 for the three projects that are sitting

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in front of you, we just wanted to wait until after the budget has been adopted so we don't

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get in the way of that discussion and then bring this forward to consideration.

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So basically, the amount that we're carrying over is going to remain here, Mark, for emergency

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staff considerations, there will be a new 20% of the currently 5 million, so 1 million that

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will be, I don't know, what easy map, 1 million that will be identified for future emergencies.

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Thanks. Thank you on that. Now, this is going to be the trickier part because it's going to

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start to become some normative policy considerations. And I want to apologize in advance because

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this is something I think we all could have hypothetically caught when we were talking about

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and approving the current formula that we use. But I hadn't occurred to me, and sometimes we need

435
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:26,970
to see the rubber hit the road for it to occur. And so I realize I'm in the position now of kind of

436
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:35,150
what staff was already directed to do, but a concern that has left out to me is that these

437
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:42,570
are actually two distinct concerns that the criteria for scoring grants and loans are

438
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:48,090
the same, and separately that grants and loans, as I understand that are considered in

439
00:38:48,090 --> 00:38:55,850
a single funding application, so a blended application is considered together. I see having

440
00:38:55,850 --> 00:39:02,230
to watch the process play out, both of those separately seem like problems, one that it would

441
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:06,470
make sense for the scoring criteria to be different because the kind of projects that

442
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:15,770
would benefit from them are different, right? A LI Tech project serving 70% AMI at 100% 70%

443
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:21,960
AMI would very strongly be benefited by alone because it fully counts the equity for their

444
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,760
running stack and it is a much more achievable gap for them to close whereas a deeply

445
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,560
affordable development targeting 30 to 50 would not as much benefit from alone and would

446
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,780
more benefit from grants and it seems like we would want to we would want to encourage the

447
00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:43,800
former to apply for loans and encourage the latter to apply for grants. And the other

448
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:51,720
problem is that they are coming in the same application which hypothetically if an applicant

449
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:59,940
is going to be behaving as a rational actor, that combined with the previous point means that no

450
00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:01,740
applicant should ever ask for loans.

451
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,980
And so I would reflect that to you. I would first kind

452
00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:13,940
of get your reaction to that and see if you think that's an accurate kind of evaluation of what

453
00:40:13,940 --> 00:40:19,720
we've seen play out here. Well I will say stuff to not really consider the potential

454
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:23,900
of an applicant asking for both a grant and alone in the same application.

455
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,200
That had not been something I have seen in the past.

456
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:30,540
So that's certainly slightly by surprise.

457
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:38,840
The way the requirements for both loans and grants is structured is that

458
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,400
for profit entities are not eligible for a grant.

459
00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:47,540
They are only eligible for the loans.

460
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:50,860
And so that's where it takes out that pool.

461
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:57,780
The point is that is that a disability on our authority, or is that a decision we have made?

462
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,520
That's a decision we have made.

463
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:05,400
I don't believe there's any restrictions on the county's authority to do that.

464
00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:11,460
Non-profits can request both.

465
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,960
Other jurisdictions throughout, particularly in Northern Virginia,

466
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,760
that staff will make the decision once those applications come in.

467
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,600
if those projects should be provided a grant to our loan.

468
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:27,120
At the moment, we have decided to allow the applicant to decide

469
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,100
which is more appropriate for the project.

470
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,600
Some of that is staff capacity, some of that is because this is a new

471
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,240
process for the county and we'd like to see how it works first.

472
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,760
But that's definitely something we can examine.

473
00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:43,720
It strikes me as a prudent that this be updated and moving forward.

474
00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:47,480
I might ask this as an open-ended question because I know it's challenging.

475
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:53,800
Do you see this is something that could be re-evaluated for this current funding cycle?

476
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,340
They're applicants who are frustrated because they feel like they end up on their own application.

477
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,980
I don't think we don't have enough time for that this time.

478
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:09,680
But there is a plan to open, do a second cycle of funding with FY27 funding after the budget has been adopted.

479
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,480
So we could certainly look at doing it that way then.

480
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,660
the twenty twenty seven money hit sooner than the twenty twenty six money did because we had

481
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:23,180
to adopt the policy to say differently um thank you i think that makes sense and that's kind

482
00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:28,380
of what i'd come in expecting right this is uh a policy problem rather than an application problem

483
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:34,220
that i'm talking about and so i don't think it makes sense to address a policy problem in the

484
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:40,180
instant case in front of us um but i do think there's an application problem here or rather sorry

485
00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:46,440
policy problem here, that we should and could address in the upcoming funding cycle, because

486
00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:53,860
I've concerned about it. I've concerns that, I mean, very regionalist, right? I have

487
00:42:53,860 --> 00:42:57,940
concerns that projects in my district have accidentally undermined their own ability

488
00:42:57,940 --> 00:42:59,340
to secure strong amount of funding.

489
00:43:01,460 --> 00:43:04,280
The other thing I wanted to ask,

490
00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:07,040
you talk a few times

491
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,760
about the review team that contains non-housing staff.

492
00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:13,800
Could you give us, without naming names,

493
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,000
I'm not gonna ask you to do that?

494
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:17,380
Could you give us all the sense of what that group looks like?

495
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,620
Yes.

496
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Ultimately, the plan will be to have in the community members

497
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,020
doing this wasn't a lot of time to get that set up.

498
00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:28,440
It takes some time to do that,

499
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,560
figure out qualifications.

500
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,220
During the work session last May,

501
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,360
the board indicated that they would like to be able to

502
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:47,580
So that's going to come probably next year, not next fiscal year, but next calendar year so we can get everything together and do it properly.

503
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,140
So it shows representatives from different county departments.

504
00:43:53,980 --> 00:44:03,020
So department of finance and budget, the office of grants and agreements as well as facilities and environmental services.

505
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,640
And this committee most of the reviews are that because there's a quantitative part that determines

506
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,040
the final output score, which is eligible and not eligible, and there's also a narrative

507
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,360
components that are introduced.

508
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,800
Can you help me understand how that quantitative part, the review committee, and the final

509
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,900
percent on the dollar, ask what that parsing out looks like, where does one influence the other?

510
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:32,920
Certainly, so there is a scoring matrix that goes along.

511
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,340
There was separate scoring criteria.

512
00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:38,620
There are much the same for both rental housing.

513
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,620
And for sale housing, a few differences,

514
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:49,240
like rental housing does require submission of a property management plan

515
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,940
that is not required for homeownership.

516
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,280
So each component has different scores associated with it.

517
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,980
all of the applications that we view to exactly what is

518
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,260
All of you received yesterday. So that is all three of you team sees. They see them online. They score sheet as they go along. That score sheet, howly is automatically in the system and determines what the number score is.

519
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:28,320
And then staff takes that and says, right, there's a total of 275 points that this application could score because it's rental housing. This is the score that they received and this is the percentage of points that they earned.

520
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,420
the final kind of thing and in my mind I would just say I'm mentally comparing this a lot

521
00:45:37,420 --> 00:45:43,500
to the process we have for our nonprofit partners for social services dispersal.

522
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:51,260
Where we have a very procedural process with a non-elected committee that reviews these or historically

523
00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:52,540
that was I was done.

524
00:45:52,540 --> 00:46:01,620
And frankly, we've gotten to a point where there is, not only is there not much second guessing from the board, but it's kind of almost politically verboten.

525
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:09,120
We've deliberately insulated it from elected decision-making because we would all do things like high-represent southwood and want to fight for more southwood dollars.

526
00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:20,700
I want to reflect that as the goal of where we get there, but I think in the short term there might be an expectation of a higher level of transparency to make sure it's working under the hood before we develop that trust in the process.

527
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,840
So I would begin by saying this.

528
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,620
So with that on the table, I don't mean this to sound unkind.

529
00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:32,540
The document that we received in here looks rushed.

530
00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:34,340
It is a single slide.

531
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:38,300
There looks to be some working calculations numbers at the bottom of the Excel spreadsheet

532
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,500
that I don't understand.

533
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:44,460
And I say this is someone who I would probably myself having a decent level of understanding

534
00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:46,040
with what we're talking about here.

535
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,860
And I would also reflect that there are members,

536
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,140
there are applicants who have questioned in kind of the 11th hour,

537
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,940
whether or not some math was done correctly.

538
00:46:57,740 --> 00:46:59,100
I'm not sure if this has been raised to you.

539
00:46:59,140 --> 00:47:00,480
I only just heard about it this morning.

540
00:47:00,980 --> 00:47:03,180
There was a concern that was reflected to me before that.

541
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,720
There was a concern more recently that actual math had been done wrong.

542
00:47:08,620 --> 00:47:12,680
I had not expected to say this 48 hours ago,

543
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,060
but I am now wondering if it might be prudent

544
00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:22,480
Because also these applications that you mentioned sending out to board has had less than 24 hours to sit with some of them might not even seen it

545
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Yeah, because it was at the end of the work day, which I recognize that means you're working through and pass the end of the work day

546
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:37,060
I'm wondering I think at this point it might be my desire to have a moment to review this to have staff to be able to investigate the

547
00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:44,280
the suggestion that there was improperly conducted math on studies before we review it possibly at the

548
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:54,660
either on consent or as a quick thing on next two weeks in soon I don't want it to delay the

549
00:47:54,660 --> 00:48:02,040
dispersion of funding I don't want to delay any of these nonprofits but I do think there might be an additional level of scrutiny

550
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:08,400
that members of board would like to take and I would just close by saying that and I'm curious

551
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,900
if you have any immediate reaction to that otherwise I will go along in the order.

552
00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:21,080
Now I did go back I will say it was I just missed that calculation so it's just setting

553
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:26,800
up spreadsheets it's yeah you put the calculate that what is that thing called the equation

554
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,380
of the top cell and then you just brought it down I had intended to go back and fix that

555
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:36,100
and I forgot to do so. So it is my fault. I did go back through and review the applications

556
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:41,080
and see what the change of score would be and it would not have had an impact on the scores

557
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,260
that were received. So the the four that stood out and reached that 75 percent threshold,

558
00:48:46,820 --> 00:48:49,560
we're still the four that reached that 75 percent threshold.

559
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:55,370
I don't doubt that. I might want to

560
00:48:55,370 --> 00:49:01,650
see the updated spreadsheet to review the scores myself before proving it. That's all I have to.

561
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:04,770
Thank you, Supervisor LePista, currently?

562
00:49:05,350 --> 00:49:12,670
Yes. Point of clarification. I want to make sure I heard you correctly that the people who are

563
00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:19,610
getting grants that is separate from the people who are, that doesn't score as high as

564
00:49:19,610 --> 00:49:26,310
or the people who are not prophets. The scores are based solely on the type of project, whether it

565
00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:29,090
rental housing or home ownership or rehabilitation.

566
00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:32,830
The percentage of the score at the max.

567
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:35,170
There's a maximum number of score you can get for rental housing

568
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:39,390
project, applications, home ownership applications, and

569
00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:46,350
therefore, excuse me, the scores are based on they are modified

570
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:51,450
for each application, so you're only going to read rental housing

571
00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:54,910
application against the rental housing score sheet.

572
00:49:54,910 --> 00:50:00,470
There are different maximum scores that you can get for the different types of projects based

573
00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:03,790
on what is required in the application.

574
00:50:05,530 --> 00:50:11,770
So, rental housing applications would require a 30-year performance to show that that project

575
00:50:11,770 --> 00:50:19,430
would be viable and financially healthy for 30 years, whereas you don't have that for

576
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:20,550
home ownership projects.

577
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:22,710
So the 10 points or 5 points,

578
00:50:22,910 --> 00:50:25,590
since you get for the profile of what the rental housing application,

579
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:27,890
you don't get that.

580
00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:31,350
And it's not included in the home ownership application.

581
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:33,710
So there would be a difference in maximum scores

582
00:50:33,710 --> 00:50:36,450
between the two types of projects of 10 points, say.

583
00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:40,310
So if you did a 110 points for rental housing,

584
00:50:40,450 --> 00:50:43,130
you would get a 100 points on the home ownership application.

585
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:47,650
You were addressing people or organizations

586
00:50:47,650 --> 00:50:51,650
that are eligible for loans or for grants now.

587
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:58,990
It's for both, for both, okay, because people applying for grants, if there are, for

588
00:50:58,990 --> 00:51:04,190
profit, you're not allowing that, you're just allowing grants for non-profit.

589
00:51:04,490 --> 00:51:06,290
Did I hear that correctly or what it's taken?

590
00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:11,810
So grants are primarily for non-profit organizations building housing or rehabilitating housing.

591
00:51:11,810 --> 00:51:21,670
If a four-profit organization is going to build a 100% affordable property, then they would be able to apply for a grant.

592
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:25,670
Now, profits are able to apply for loans or grants.

593
00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:27,210
Okay, that's what I was.

594
00:51:27,470 --> 00:51:28,830
Okay, that's what I was thinking back.

595
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:29,850
Thank you very much.

596
00:51:30,050 --> 00:51:30,350
Thank you.

597
00:51:30,350 --> 00:51:31,110
No other questions.

598
00:51:31,650 --> 00:51:31,950
Thank you.

599
00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:32,710
Supervisor Missle.

600
00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:34,110
Yes, thanks.

601
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:34,950
Hey, Dr. Bradley.

602
00:51:35,230 --> 00:51:37,750
Thanks for the information for the presentation.

603
00:51:37,790 --> 00:51:38,670
It was really helpful.

604
00:51:38,670 --> 00:51:42,670
clarify a lot of things, and I won't repeat questions that have already been raised.

605
00:51:43,090 --> 00:51:46,950
I did have similar questions, I have a few additional ones.

606
00:51:47,470 --> 00:51:53,850
One is maybe just, I don't fully understand why we do not have visibility into the

607
00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:57,670
specific applications that we're requesting these funds.

608
00:51:57,990 --> 00:52:00,110
There are a reason for that.

609
00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:02,010
I'm sorry.

610
00:52:02,350 --> 00:52:08,530
So when the applicant's applied for this funding, are we able to seize the public

611
00:52:08,530 --> 00:52:12,110
able to see the applications or is that kept confidential?

612
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:18,850
It was decided, because this is going on consent agenda to keep them out of the agenda packet,

613
00:52:19,050 --> 00:52:21,350
but they can certainly be provided in the future.

614
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:23,190
That would be helpful.

615
00:52:23,590 --> 00:52:30,530
We will have to look at how to present them in your packet because they do require a large number

616
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:37,890
of supporting documents, some of which can be handed to the pages long, so I don't want to overwhelm everything.

617
00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:40,090
So we'll just need to look into how to do that.

618
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:44,870
Right, and I didn't know if any of that was proprietary or if there were any confidentiality issues

619
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:50,130
that the applicants would wish to remain confidential, but just a thought.

620
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:54,730
So some of that would probably need to remain confidential and many of it doesn't.

621
00:52:55,310 --> 00:52:57,870
It's really a file size matter.

622
00:52:58,310 --> 00:53:00,110
I think it's summary of each of those would be helpful.

623
00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:04,390
The other thing I know I saw this in an email and you responded today, I haven't had a chance

624
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:07,870
to review it, but general comment it would be helpful to see

625
00:53:07,870 --> 00:53:13,630
comment, arts to see an accounting of sources and uses for housing investment funds in general,

626
00:53:13,810 --> 00:53:18,670
just to get a general sort of big picture, but that's sort of out of the realm of this discussion.

627
00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:24,410
We touched on some calculation discrepancies. I do think that's an issue that we'd like to

628
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:31,410
I'd like to look into further, and as I refer to my email, it just does that impact any of the awards.

629
00:53:31,410 --> 00:53:36,630
I know that you mentioned, let's see,

630
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,620
you mentioned that those that you confirmed that

631
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:48,800
the four that received the 75 or reached the 75 percent threshold were still the four

632
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,120
that reached that 75 percent threshold.

633
00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:56,640
I would be interested to know if, are there others, however, beyond those that would have otherwise

634
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,620
reached that threshold if there had been.

635
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,580
So you're saying no?

636
00:53:59,580 --> 00:54:06,820
Correct. That mistake. That mistake was strictly in housing world. That was not shared with the review team.

637
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,140
I see.

638
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,300
That was just for our purposes.

639
00:54:09,740 --> 00:54:14,640
And I made a last minute decision to include it in your agenda packet to provide more information.

640
00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:16,960
And I just forgot to double check my work.

641
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:20,560
So it would not have had.

642
00:54:20,860 --> 00:54:23,760
That did not influence their reviews.

643
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Got it.

644
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:25,540
Okay.

645
00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:34,940
It was very helpful to hear about that 20% and supervisor Purvitz clarification of that, so thank you.

646
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:41,260
I do have a question about how we plan to distribute that, so that 20% you mentioned that there were some uses right here.

647
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,900
These three uses, how do we identify what those uses are for those?

648
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,700
So that 20% comes out of staff identified needs.

649
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:57,340
So they can be emergency needs that we see coming up, such as the Salvation Army family shelter beds.

650
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:04,280
We know there's a lack in the county and the area in general, so this was a good way to support that project.

651
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:14,100
These projects that are listed here are related to issues that staff has identified over several years.

652
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:19,100
Um, a landlord risk reduction fund, risk mitigation fund, whatever we're going to end up calling it.

653
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:27,960
Um, really helps to move, um, helps lower income families that may not have a security deposit to move into housing.

654
00:55:28,780 --> 00:55:31,040
Um, it provides service security blanket for landlords.

655
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:38,540
Um, we're looking at our family preservation housing assistance pilot, um, that would provide, um,

656
00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:46,400
It would help families that are struggling to either keep the child at home due to lack of housing stability

657
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,080
or have their child return from care due to lack of housing stability.

658
00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:54,480
So this would be a pilot program to help overcome that.

659
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,920
We're still putting details together, but that's a huge issue.

660
00:55:59,620 --> 00:56:05,240
The county does provide her tell space for many families in that situation.

661
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:08,900
And so this is a way to potentially save money in that regard.

662
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:15,120
And then there's always the homeless shelter project that the city is working on in

663
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,780
holiday drive that the county will probably come back with a recommendation for that as

664
00:56:19,780 --> 00:56:20,300
well.

665
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:20,840
Got it.

666
00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:23,280
And I don't have any issues with any of those.

667
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:29,700
They're important for the community, et cetera.

668
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,400
I, my only question is, you mentioned that they're all over funds.

669
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,080
We're talking about the potential for that.

670
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,360
that just surprises me, this is kind of an editorial

671
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,100
I comment, I guess surprises me in this community,

672
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,320
where there is so much need that we have

673
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,660
any funds that are rolling over.

674
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,500
And I would, I think, encourage us to try to find

675
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:50,120
every resource we can to distribute those funds as needed.

676
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,740
And then the last thing I'll just say is to echo again

677
00:56:52,740 --> 00:56:54,880
what Supervisor Prood mentioned, which is,

678
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,840
I think it would be prudent to hold these materials

679
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,600
and do a little bit more of a deep dive.

680
00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:00,520
I also think it's helpful to potentially

681
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,900
to provide some airtime for applicants.

682
00:57:03,460 --> 00:57:08,520
if they want to touch base with staff to get any clarifications beyond today.

683
00:57:09,580 --> 00:57:09,900
That's all.

684
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:10,700
Thank you.

685
00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:10,980
Great.

686
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:11,540
Thank you.

687
00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:12,240
Supervisor Gunga.

688
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,720
Yeah, thanks for this presentation and the future recommendations.

689
00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:19,620
I also had concerns with the money left over because I think we need to be spending

690
00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:21,280
down to zero every year.

691
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,820
My one little comment on this and I know these are just potential.

692
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,280
But the landlord risk it sounds like it's actually helping tenants by providing them security

693
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,300
I would love to see tenant reflected in the title and not just landlord.

694
00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:48,220
I initially asked for this item to be pulled more because I think it's important for the public and for us to acknowledge when we're spending affordable housing money and to see what can happen when we invest in affordable housing.

695
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:53,460
And so I just wanted to highlight that some of these projects are providing housing for people

696
00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:59,360
making mostly less than 60% AMI. One of them is for almost 200 units for people making less

697
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:05,300
than 30% AMI. So these are housing projects for people who would not be able to about not

698
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:10,500
be able to afford housing otherwise. I think it's important to recognize, especially, I know

699
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:14,300
later tonight we're going to get public comment about funding for affordable housing initiatives

700
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:20,380
that when we fund affordable housing, we're having literal, tangible effects on people's lives.

701
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:29,240
And, you know, investing in housing is a public health initiative, it's a public safety, it's good climate policy, it's economic development.

702
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:36,440
And so investing in housing, we're able to basically invest in almost everything that we say our priorities as a county are.

703
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,480
So, you know, spending this 3.5 million on housing is a good decision that I think should be publicly recognized.

704
00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:46,760
And obviously we need to spend much, much, much more on it.

705
00:58:46,780 --> 00:58:49,380
But I also agree with Supervisor Mr. Linn,

706
00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:54,780
and I'm making sure that we're taking a second look at

707
00:58:54,780 --> 00:58:57,440
the funding and the scoring for this particular one.

708
00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:00,120
Thank you. Supervisor Malik.

709
00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:04,520
Thank you. And thank you to my three colleagues who have asked many of the questions.

710
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,100
I had written down and for raising this to begin with.

711
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,540
I'll go back up here, I had some things highlighted.

712
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:17,900
The, I guess my original confusion, which is not yet been clarified.

713
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:23,680
The original matrix that was sent showed a per unit cost.

714
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:32,060
And yet now we're being told that if the, and they were combined grants and loans,

715
00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:36,600
which I have personal concern about, it seems like you shouldn't be punished

716
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,080
for asking for a loan that the county is going to be paid back.

717
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,700
You should be considered the cost to public dollars that is granted.

718
00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:52,660
And that would probably, although I didn't do any of the math, change the per unit costs significantly.

719
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:59,980
Which then would change the 76% or the 84% which then would change the percentage.

720
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:29,980
So I don't think it's immaterial. And maybe I just don't understand, but I'm going along with all of the others. There is still so much that it's not clear and not explained well enough for me to explain it to a constituent who calls me. That's always been my bottom line. I have to be able to understand it well enough to turn around and say something to somebody else that sounds coherent. And doesn't just destroy the trust of the county in somebody else's eyes and ears.

721
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,840
So, that connection seems pretty clear to me, and I haven't heard anything yet that would change that.

722
01:00:37,140 --> 01:00:42,560
So, those are things that I need to learn more about before I'm willing to support this.

723
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:49,240
While the concept is very important, and I know that the connection of housing to school,

724
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,280
student success, and health, and all those other things is incredibly important.

725
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:59,920
And for someone who lives in a three generation household, I know how important it is to have

726
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:07,000
family around so I get all that but the details matter and we know that there are always

727
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,840
more needs than we have funds for and therefore we have to do it right and not just say

728
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,440
oh we gotta spend this down real quick and let's just do it.

729
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,840
That sends me running in the other direction really fast because we need to have the details

730
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,720
to make sure that we're making the very best investment that we can make in every one of

731
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:30,660
categories. So I am all for doing the homework. I could not do it. When I finally got

732
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:35,680
stuff late yesterday or at 11 o'clock this morning. So I have catching up to do and

733
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:41,340
I get it. I think the comments by others about the transparency is really important. There

734
01:01:41,340 --> 01:01:47,060
is I would disagree. There is significant pushback on the community grant process. Because I

735
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:54,640
think there are people who are not really informed about the topic, arts for example. Making decisions

736
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:00,200
that impact the board, and the board has more recently become reluctant to argue about it

737
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,900
on maybe the only one this year too, but it makes the difference when we're spending

738
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:09,920
tens of thousands for national things and we're giving nothing to our local people.

739
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:16,500
In the same way, I think it's really important that we analyze everything, well, I have

740
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:23,780
no criticism for the having county staff in vise, none of those people in the positions

741
01:02:23,780 --> 01:02:28,460
that were listed have particular expertise in housing, other than being people.

742
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,120
And maybe that was the basis on which you wanted advice was just as human beings, what

743
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:33,920
do you think about this?

744
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:39,440
I would find it very difficult with my limited expertise in housing to score anything.

745
01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:44,760
I mean, the zero to ten is a terrifying thing for me to have to do whether it's evaluations

746
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,860
for staff or anything else.

747
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,620
So these are my concerns.

748
01:02:49,060 --> 01:02:53,100
I may be the only one who has them, but I think that it's, I will benefit tremendously

749
01:02:53,100 --> 01:03:00,360
from postponement of decision and a lot more discussion when I did write somewhere, things

750
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,640
that will come back to the board. I guess when choices are made for each level of these,

751
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,240
they would come back to the board for processing. That is what I remember from the adoption

752
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:21,200
of the process last spring. It may be a consent agenda if the information is sufficient for the board

753
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,860
I, that's my understanding if it's different and staff is asking for the ability to spend

754
01:03:25,860 --> 01:03:28,960
a million dollars all by themselves, I'm not ready for that.

755
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,640
So that transparency is important for me.

756
01:03:34,540 --> 01:03:35,100
The,

757
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:42,520
I don't know how many county residents are having accessibility to any family shelter in

758
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:50,160
the city and taxpayers in Elamaroll pay a considerable amount to the city every year in revenue

759
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:56,700
sharing and therefore are already creating a very big pot of money for a lot of these services.

760
01:03:57,420 --> 01:04:03,200
So I'm wondering what other county benefits more directly can be provided to county residents

761
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:10,120
through some of the other categories on your list and why I would like to know more about all of those things as well.

762
01:04:10,860 --> 01:04:12,380
Thank you.

763
01:04:13,340 --> 01:04:18,220
As it relates to this specific item, what I'm hearing as we would all like you to show the math.

764
01:04:19,180 --> 01:04:23,940
So, I think the deferral for this to come back at the next board meeting, whether it's on.

765
01:04:24,860 --> 01:04:30,440
This has got enough every time that it will, we may have to work with the clerk to put it on the actual agenda.

766
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:36,260
Just to satisfy some of the concerns that I've heard the surface here that I also agree with.

767
01:04:37,460 --> 01:04:44,920
A couple of the questions that I have built on others, and I think if we do defer till then it'll give me a chance to ask those questions just in the interest of time.

768
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:51,780
I will put in one comment, they kind of climbs an elevation on this when we passed

769
01:04:51,780 --> 01:04:57,340
how housing album are and the specific nature of the trust fund that we were shooting

770
01:04:57,340 --> 01:04:58,440
for in that document.

771
01:04:59,060 --> 01:05:05,720
We also talked about coming with a standing housing advisory committee that if that committee

772
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:14,540
is set up properly does this work, which is why I want that committee and I kind of brought

773
01:05:14,540 --> 01:05:19,760
What that ups in several times in the past, because then it's a combination of the staff

774
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:27,020
work and the committee work, that stand-up of that committee is more on us, is on us

775
01:05:27,020 --> 01:05:34,260
to give that specific direction, which has been a little, as I've said before, foggy after

776
01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:39,640
the passing of the policy document versus what housing advisory committee means,

777
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:44,520
and then

778
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:51,620
Forgo probably four or five years of other comments that I've made to say this is something

779
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:56,740
that shows that maybe goes a little differently if we had that committee stand stood up

780
01:05:56,740 --> 01:06:00,100
in the way that I think folks would like to see happen.

781
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:07,700
And the parallel committee or advisory group would be our economic development authority,

782
01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:14,500
how they process applications, make judgments on them, make decisions on them,

783
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:18,380
and then bring that to the board for final consideration.

784
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,900
Could happen in a very parallel way.

785
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,300
And I think a lot of other places that do this sort of thing

786
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:26,080
on large scales do it that way.

787
01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:28,380
So that's my commentary for it.

788
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,860
But if there's no objection, what I would hope for,

789
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,980
and I could probably work with Mr. Richardson,

790
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,120
STEMA can use Dr. Pethia to figure out

791
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,160
what exactly should be in the coming packet for the next one.

792
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:43,720
But I think all of us want a hit pause

793
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,020
just so that we can understand it, see the math that's behind all the numbers, and then make

794
01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:54,180
a good solid decision at the next meeting, but I think it's appropriate to lay the, I

795
01:06:54,180 --> 01:06:58,780
noticed that lays the dollars going back out the door, but I don't think we can in good

796
01:06:58,780 --> 01:07:02,640
faith let those dollars go out the door without a better level of understanding.

797
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,200
And then we'll go from there.

798
01:07:05,420 --> 01:07:10,080
Are there any questions from staff about what we're asking for or what we're, what we're

799
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:10,460
directing?

800
01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:14,930
I'm sorry, what?

801
01:07:15,110 --> 01:07:16,550
I want to add to the list.

802
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:20,830
So in regards to the committee,

803
01:07:21,230 --> 01:07:23,630
someone is going to have to make a recommendation,

804
01:07:24,190 --> 01:07:26,710
or are we going to figure out the KQP,

805
01:07:26,850 --> 01:07:29,330
the qualifications of the various sectors,

806
01:07:29,610 --> 01:07:30,510
and stuff that's going to be on there.

807
01:07:30,670 --> 01:07:32,390
I was to thought that's what we were waiting for

808
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:33,750
and so I didn't do it.

809
01:07:33,830 --> 01:07:36,510
I think we'll have an opportunity to probably get into that

810
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:38,050
a little bit with the next agenda item.

811
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:39,370
I got it.

812
01:07:39,610 --> 01:07:40,070
Thank you.

813
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:48,050
because we're going to be talking about priorities and housing Albumaro as on the list of priorities for the AC-44 implementation.

814
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:49,150
Yes, please.

815
01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:53,010
I think staff has everything we need from you.

816
01:07:53,170 --> 01:07:59,450
I just want to say that if there is any additional information as you're reading through what was sent to me yesterday and early this morning,

817
01:08:00,170 --> 01:08:02,810
please let us know and we can send additional information.

818
01:08:03,210 --> 01:08:04,630
Awesome. Thank you so much.

819
01:08:05,490 --> 01:08:06,110
I'm sorry.

820
01:08:06,110 --> 01:08:12,410
Did I understand you to ask about the previous awards and the detail or somebody asked about?

821
01:08:12,730 --> 01:08:17,470
They sort of history of we've given this much familiar circle and that followed up to that.

822
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:21,550
Because that dollar amount has been reported, but where they are on the process,

823
01:08:21,710 --> 01:08:24,650
how many years it's been going on, what are the delays, what is the delivery,

824
01:08:24,790 --> 01:08:27,610
so that we have a performance report as well.

825
01:08:28,310 --> 01:08:32,650
Because there's been a lot of money that's gone at the door without any perceived thing happening.

826
01:08:32,650 --> 01:08:36,350
So that would be nice to have information to be able to share that with the

827
01:08:36,350 --> 01:08:37,050
constituents who call.

828
01:08:37,650 --> 01:08:41,530
We can certainly provide that the spreadsheet that was sent this morning

829
01:08:42,650 --> 01:08:46,430
does include all of the funding, through the housing fund that is gone to the

830
01:08:46,430 --> 01:08:47,830
project since 2019.

831
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:53,230
It does not have the details of status project but we can certainly get that for you.

832
01:08:53,350 --> 01:08:53,970
Thank you very much.

833
01:08:54,310 --> 01:08:58,250
And with the exception of the 300 and some thousand that you've that surfaced today,

834
01:08:58,370 --> 01:09:01,470
all those other dollars were voted on by this board to go to that project.

835
01:09:01,650 --> 01:09:01,850
Correct.

836
01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:11,870
Yeah, the board will always vote on recommendations for the staff never makes that there's not a pre-funding without staff board approval.

837
01:09:12,090 --> 01:09:13,870
We just bring the recommendations to you.

838
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:15,350
Thank you.

839
01:09:15,370 --> 01:09:15,830
Thank you.

840
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:23,770
Now if there are follow-up questions, I'm going to ask that you send those to Stacey and Kackie and then copy Mr. Richardson on them as well.

841
01:09:23,770 --> 01:09:31,750
And then I would recommend just because of all the folks interested in it to copy your fellow board members with those questions too from the get go.

842
01:09:32,210 --> 01:09:38,330
So we're all in the same page and this won't get delayed further when it comes before the board in two weeks.

843
01:09:38,770 --> 01:09:40,050
All right. Thank you very much.

844
01:09:40,590 --> 01:09:49,010
All right. We are behind. So I'm just going to just call that to everybody's attention so that as we move through the next item.

845
01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:52,890
We don't need to rush, but we also just need to not

846
01:09:52,890 --> 01:09:54,990
Think we have a lot of extra

847
01:09:54,990 --> 01:10:05,440
Cushion time either. So that will take us to item number nine zoning modernization AC44 implementation priorities. I know Leia is joining us

848
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:08,080
And we have others who are

849
01:10:08,730 --> 01:10:10,170
moving about that will be ready

850
01:10:11,950 --> 01:10:15,860
Come on Bart, you know, you're gonna to step up at some point see better get down here close

851
01:10:17,380 --> 01:10:18,420
Good afternoon.

852
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,740
Good afternoon.

853
01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:22,880
Good afternoon.

854
01:10:23,140 --> 01:10:23,600
Over to the board.

855
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:24,760
Chargalloway.

856
01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:28,690
You're not yet.

857
01:10:29,150 --> 01:10:32,110
I pulled the mic down towards you too, because you're very quiet.

858
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:33,290
Thank you.

859
01:10:33,650 --> 01:10:34,790
Is this my phone?

860
01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:41,210
I think I, along with everyone else, is getting over a cold.

861
01:10:46,670 --> 01:10:47,510
Yeah, the mouse was working.

862
01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:54,500
There we go.

863
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,460
Yes.

864
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,300
So with that in mind to keep this moving quickly.

865
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,840
Good afternoon, Chair Galloway, and members of the board.

866
01:11:05,060 --> 01:11:08,760
My name is Leia Brumfield, Senior Planner 2 in the Zoning Division of Community Development.

867
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:16,600
And today, I will be presenting the staff recommended list of prioritized AC44 implementation actions,

868
01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:24,140
essentially how we are combining the two projects, the way that I have combined the two logos here.

869
01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:31,820
These implementation priority actions are based on the goals and vision of the

870
01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:36,800
comp plan, particularly looking at the big moves, strategic plan, and also

871
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,140
stated board directives.

872
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:43,960
So the recommended list of prioritized actions will make up this regulatory

873
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:50,560
modernization stage of the project phase three, and will be a not insignificant

874
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,140
to get part of the implementation of the comp plan for the immediate couple of years.

875
01:11:57,580 --> 01:12:03,540
So quick rundown in this presentation we'll be touching on the project background, we'll

876
01:12:03,540 --> 01:12:05,820
do a quick review of phase two of the project.

877
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,100
We did discuss that at length at the last sorting modernization presentation in November

878
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:16,840
of last year and since this work session is on prioritization of phase three we won't be

879
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:22,200
going too deeply into it at that point but I will go into the work that has brought

880
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,060
us to this point today, how the implementation actions in the

881
01:12:26,060 --> 01:12:30,980
complaint relate to the staff recommended priorities of Phase 3, which

882
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:33,800
is shown in attachment C of the board's packet.

883
01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:38,180
And I will be summarizing the actions we've recommended to be

884
01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:42,840
prioritized, and then finally we'll go into next steps for Phase 3.

885
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,880
The end of the presentation will be asking for the boards to feedback

886
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,660
on a recommended priorities and our Phase 3 plan in general,

887
01:12:50,660 --> 01:12:54,240
but we don't have any specific approval requests at this time.

888
01:12:57,260 --> 01:13:01,160
So, for background, phase one, we established the tone,

889
01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:06,520
modern language, style, and ordinance format of the new project.

890
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,960
We worked with the birth of group, drafting four foundational articles of the new ordinance.

891
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,220
Article one was general provisions.

892
01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:18,340
Two, administration, three is permits and applications.

893
01:13:18,340 --> 01:13:27,350
and 10 was done on conformities and in August of 2024 we presented these four articles to the board at which point they were reviewed and

894
01:13:27,820 --> 01:13:28,940
given a general approval.

895
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:37,680
However, we did not adopt the articles at that time since the new form out of the ordinance will require a wholesale

896
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:45,540
reorganization of all the new articles and we're not able to piecemeal, she'll learn those into place at this time.

897
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,100
However, that work has already been very useful to this point.

898
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,800
We've been putting the new layout and language into, in, ready to work.

899
01:13:56,820 --> 01:14:01,620
Using it to rewrite our repair and buffer regulations and also our rewritten

900
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:03,700
form-based code overlay district regulations.

901
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:07,920
So this is actively working and we are moving forward with it already.

902
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:14,740
Phase two, which is currently underway, expands those foundational principles of the

903
01:14:14,740 --> 01:14:23,460
the language style, the format of the of those four forced articles and expands it to the rest of the ordinance.

904
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:30,840
We're currently rewriting the sections that will become article six, the use matrix, and article seven, the use standards.

905
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:36,040
And we're drafting those and other sections. It would be continuing that.

906
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:43,960
And then we'll bring any questions or any issues to the planning commission in the board in work sessions over the next year or so.

907
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:50,180
We'll also be doing reviews of those draft-drafted language with internal and external stakeholders.

908
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:59,820
But we're keeping in mind that the goal of this particular phase is to adopt the rewritten reorganized ordinance quickly without substantive regulatory changes.

909
01:15:00,110 --> 01:15:14,350
So we are trying to move that along quickly. That new layout will provide us a foundation that is easier to work with, and that will make the regulatory changes in phase 3 much faster and simpler.

910
01:15:15,690 --> 01:15:26,190
So phase 3 is also running concurrently. We are in that right now at this meeting, and it is encompassing the larger substantive work of enacting the comprehensive plan.

911
01:15:27,970 --> 01:15:33,690
This is just a couple of key dates, not every single thing that's going to happen over the next year.

912
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:41,690
But this kind of illustrates how we're looking at the concurrency of both phase two and phase three at the same time.

913
01:15:42,670 --> 01:15:48,910
And just keeping in mind as with every zoning text amendment as we are aware projected dates are approximate.

914
01:15:50,800 --> 01:16:00,620
So, how do we translate that, which was on October 15, 2025, we adopted our updated AC44

915
01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:07,780
COPLAN, and that provides us with the framework for the shape of regulatory modernization.

916
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:15,240
This document that we adopted in Visions Accounting that is green and resilient, welcoming

917
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:20,680
an equitable, connected and accessible and thriving in prosperous, and it has four documents,

918
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:27,220
the plan policy, growth management policy, implementation, and the appendix. So within

919
01:16:27,220 --> 01:16:32,280
that implementation document, different aspects of the county are addressed from the development

920
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:37,480
land use, developmentary land use, the rural area land use, environmental stewardship,

921
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:43,640
thriving economy, all those different things in their own chapters. And then at the end

922
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,880
of each of these topic area chapters is a list of actions, which address the chapters,

923
01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:55,400
stated objectives, in ways that staff the board and the community have recommended for

924
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:02,380
this next phase of the county's growth cycles. Here we have just on the left a very small

925
01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:07,400
snippet of the rural area land use actions that are recommended just to show you what that looks

926
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:15,260
on that page. All these actions are grouped by objective and they touch on things from grants

927
01:17:15,260 --> 01:17:22,580
the county should pursue to new public-private partnerships to zoning ordinance recommended

928
01:17:22,580 --> 01:17:28,580
actions recommended changes. There are almost 400 implementation actions of the comprehensive

929
01:17:28,580 --> 01:17:36,240
plan. Fortunately, not all of them directly relate to zoning ordinance changes, as noted some

930
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:41,640
them are about policies, some of them are about grant funding, some of them are about internal

931
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:47,300
policies or board initiatives that could be addressed at a later date or are currently

932
01:17:47,300 --> 01:17:49,040
underway as well.

933
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:55,420
Forty of them, however, are directly related to zoning ordinances, ordinance changes that

934
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:59,240
we're looking at near the short term, so it's around 40 actions.

935
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:11,020
So, in the addition to the implementation actions, in the end of each topic chapter, we also

936
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:17,300
look through staff at zoning staff and planning staff together, look through the comp plan

937
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:24,340
to find the embedded AC44 assumptions, goals, and visions for the county that are not explicitly

938
01:18:24,340 --> 01:18:25,440
listed as actions.

939
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:37,380
So, for example, looking at this particular page, we have the neighborhood residential complement map designation description.

940
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:44,360
This is the language that describes what a place that we are calling neighborhood residential should look like.

941
01:18:44,900 --> 01:18:53,840
And if in this description, we talk about primarily residential use with some neighborhood-scale commercial retail and institutional uses.

942
01:18:53,840 --> 01:19:11,420
However, the zoning ordinance currently has extremely limited lists of non-residential uses that are permitted either by right or by special use permit or at all achievable in residential districts that would correlate with this neighborhood residential designation in the compound.

943
01:19:12,340 --> 01:19:29,860
So in order to close that gap, in phase three of this project, we're looking at an amendment to the ordinance that would allow some kind of additional non-residential uses in a neighborhood of scale appropriate use.

944
01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:33,920
So that would be something that is possibly

945
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:38,460
my special use permit, most likely with a number

946
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:39,500
of self-mentor regulations.

947
01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:41,760
But these are the kinds of things that we're pulling

948
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,120
from the text that are not explicitly listed

949
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,680
as ordinance actions that are in the end of the implementation

950
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:48,340
chapter.

951
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:57,620
So where we've seen these gaps in that action list

952
01:19:57,620 --> 01:20:02,880
at the end of the implementation chapter, zoning and planning staff together, wrote, what would

953
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:10,720
we need to close that gap, and where those sections are something that is repeated multiple

954
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:17,560
times in the ordinance, something where it is a high priority for the county. We added those

955
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:24,000
to the actions list, which, again, is attachment C in the staff's packet in the boards packet.

956
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:31,140
Those ones are listed as UL or unlisted actions because they're not in that first list in the comprehensive plan.

957
01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:44,350
So in reviewing both the listed and also the unlisted or implied actions in the comprehensive plan,

958
01:20:45,330 --> 01:20:49,610
we worked very closely with our recently retired community development director Jodie Fullardos,

959
01:20:49,690 --> 01:20:56,710
special guest this afternoon, prioritizing the actions with this criteria.

960
01:20:57,890 --> 01:21:02,470
First, we're looking at aligning those actions with the highest AC44 priorities,

961
01:21:03,850 --> 01:21:09,370
described either in the topic chapter objectives, or describe as a big move at the end of that chapter.

962
01:21:11,130 --> 01:21:15,770
Additionally, the prioritized actions should have an impact on multiple community goals,

963
01:21:17,250 --> 01:21:21,550
something that could enrich activity centers, as well as availability of portable housing.

964
01:21:21,550 --> 01:21:27,230
For example, we prioritized actions that are ready for implementation, something that will

965
01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:32,030
not require a, you know, five, ten-year study,

966
01:21:34,090 --> 01:21:36,490
and also regulatory changes that address

967
01:21:36,490 --> 01:21:42,970
issues that we see a lot, things like step-back waivers on forced-story residential multi-family

968
01:21:42,970 --> 01:21:43,450
structures.

969
01:21:44,230 --> 01:21:48,950
We get that with almost every single application that comes in for those.

970
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:52,110
And then finally, staff prioritize actions that are

971
01:21:52,110 --> 01:21:54,970
duct-tailing with existing ongoing work, things that are

972
01:21:54,970 --> 01:21:59,190
already happening, and then any actions that would

973
01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:02,270
immediately address staff or board identified

974
01:22:02,850 --> 01:22:05,510
directives, which I'll go into a little bit a couple

975
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:06,510
of slides down.

976
01:22:08,210 --> 01:22:11,710
So this is what our attachment see looks like, and this

977
01:22:11,710 --> 01:22:16,690
shows how all of these actions are coming from maybe

978
01:22:16,690 --> 01:22:21,710
different chapters within the implementation chapter of the Comprehensive Plan.

979
01:22:21,770 --> 01:22:26,670
This is Development Area Land Use and also Housing chapters, but they are all moving

980
01:22:26,670 --> 01:22:28,490
towards affordable housing initiatives.

981
01:22:32,150 --> 01:22:37,790
And the recommended prioritization ended up with three tiers of actions.

982
01:22:38,230 --> 01:22:42,930
Tier one is the actions that are crucial for immediate pressing of the implementation.

983
01:22:42,930 --> 01:22:47,510
They will be addressed in phase three of the Zoning Modernization Project.

984
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:54,970
We'll be trying to bring all of those to life and there are 30 such actions both the listed in the

985
01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:59,030
complaint and unlisted in attachment C.

986
01:22:59,690 --> 01:23:05,370
Tier 2 is actions that require additional technical research beyond the immediate capacity of this project.

987
01:23:06,130 --> 01:23:12,790
These actions could be rolled into phase 3 if time and staff resources allow, but they also may be

988
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:16,570
address through individuals owning text amendments at a later date due to their nature

989
01:23:16,570 --> 01:23:22,990
of being something that is not as widespread or something as embedded in different sections

990
01:23:22,990 --> 01:23:23,770
of the text.

991
01:23:25,150 --> 01:23:30,870
And then finally, tier three contains actions that require a larger scale, additional planning

992
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:31,270
effort.

993
01:23:31,810 --> 01:23:39,070
For example, the biggest one is things that will require more intensive engagement and community

994
01:23:39,070 --> 01:23:45,930
research to create our rural area land uses plan, which is a little bit ways out, but it's

995
01:23:45,930 --> 01:23:50,190
something that would touch almost all the aspects of rural area life and rural area land

996
01:23:50,190 --> 01:23:55,610
use planning. So these can, these things cannot be taken under zoning modernization because

997
01:23:55,610 --> 01:23:59,730
we just don't have the data, we don't have the information yet, and we don't have the prioritization

998
01:24:00,610 --> 01:24:03,590
and guardrails for these topics at this time.

999
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,300
So these tier 1 recommended priorities, we've organized

1000
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:13,460
into seven often overlapping topics.

1001
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,160
They loosely correlate with topics covered in the comprehensive plan,

1002
01:24:18,860 --> 01:24:22,220
but there are some that are just pulled out a little bit,

1003
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,980
and are not necessarily mentioned in the big moves.

1004
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,380
The seven topics are not necessarily organized in any particular order,

1005
01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:33,380
but they are affordable housing initiatives,

1006
01:24:34,220 --> 01:24:37,300
activity center initiatives, economic development initiatives,

1007
01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:43,740
Modernizing and streamlining development review processes, increasing density across the development areas,

1008
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:49,580
increasing mixed use accessibility across the development areas, and the real area special topics.

1009
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:57,440
We won't go over all 30 of the recommended actions, but I will review two of the priority topics,

1010
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,020
and there are associated actions to walk the board through our prioritization process.

1011
01:25:02,020 --> 01:25:05,340
So starting with the Affordable Housing Initiatives,

1012
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,840
the actions related to affordable housing,

1013
01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:13,480
we found in two chapters of the implementation document

1014
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:14,700
of the Comprehensive Plan.

1015
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,060
The first was the Development Area Land use chapter.

1016
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,340
And that one had action 1.2,

1017
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,040
which allowed, sorry,

1018
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,080
recommends allowing residential uses in commercial districts

1019
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,180
and just as a brief note,

1020
01:25:30,180 --> 01:25:36,400
the actions that I have on the screen are very truncated and they're summarized, this is not the entire action.

1021
01:25:38,900 --> 01:25:45,900
But that allowance of residential uses in commercial districts would have an increase in availability,

1022
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:54,780
and availability of units, increasing hopefully the affordability of residential units throughout the county and in different places.

1023
01:25:55,940 --> 01:26:01,240
When we're looking at the housing chapter of the Comprehensive Plan, the actions are committed

1024
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:07,020
for prioritization, range from incorporating the housing out moral affordable dwelling

1025
01:26:07,020 --> 01:26:11,580
unit program into the zoning ordinance to reducing minimum lot sizes and parking requirements.

1026
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,960
So there's a whole laundry list there.

1027
01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:20,320
Overall these actions are large and impactful, and they will require pretty intensive review

1028
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,580
drafting and a lot of work with community and development partners, but they are listed

1029
01:26:24,580 --> 01:26:29,300
recommended priorities because of their outsized impacts on affordable housing, which is one

1030
01:26:29,300 --> 01:26:33,880
of the highest priorities in the Comprehensive Plan, and one that both the board and the public

1031
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:39,380
have repeatedly strongly supported. With the drafting of the Comprehensive Plan, the community

1032
01:26:39,380 --> 01:26:44,920
endorsed this recommended priority as affordable housing, which is a fundamental community

1033
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:50,460
value that we are aiming for. So bringing these actions from the if from that approved

1034
01:26:50,460 --> 01:26:53,900
community recommended comprehensive plan into the zoning

1035
01:26:53,900 --> 01:26:57,280
ordinance is a direct and powerful step of bringing that value

1036
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,380
to life in the actual community that we live in.

1037
01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:06,780
So skipping around a bit, we're looking at another topic

1038
01:27:06,780 --> 01:27:09,360
area, which is the real area of special topics.

1039
01:27:10,500 --> 01:27:15,660
And these ones are majority of, sorry, the majority of the

1040
01:27:15,660 --> 01:27:19,080
real area of recommended actions are intended to be addressed

1041
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:26,000
a later stage, but these particular actions are something that can be addressed sooner because

1042
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,980
they are a single identified high priority issue, or there's something that doesn't

1043
01:27:30,980 --> 01:27:36,820
necessarily require a large-scale land use research plan associated with it.

1044
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:42,980
So looking at the really rare land use actions, action 4.5 on page 4 of the attachments

1045
01:27:42,980 --> 01:27:47,700
agency in the staff report, recommends revising the regulations for special events.

1046
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:53,420
The ordinance language that we currently have is very out of sync with the way we approve

1047
01:27:53,420 --> 01:27:56,840
and administer special use permits in the Royal area.

1048
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:02,560
Sorry, special events, special use permits, and since there is a perennially high amount

1049
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:07,080
of interest in special events, special use permits, this is something that is prioritized.

1050
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:14,940
Looking at the narrative of the Royal Air Land uses chapter, one of the, again, unlisted

1051
01:28:14,940 --> 01:28:22,020
actions is a repeated mention of protecting historic resources. On page 8 of the Royal

1052
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:27,020
Area chapter and of the implementation document, they mention adaptive reuse of existing

1053
01:28:27,020 --> 01:28:34,040
historic structures. But again, there's currently a very limited opportunity for adaptive

1054
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:40,380
reuse of those structures unless the structure was historically a restaurant taverner in.

1055
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:45,960
So under this special topic, prioritization, we are looking at investigating feasibility

1056
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:51,400
for additional permitted uses for registered historic properties, hopefully encouraging

1057
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,540
property owners to be able to protect that historic resource.

1058
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,820
And then that would also meet the chapter objective of protecting natural systems, water supplies,

1059
01:29:01,820 --> 01:29:07,580
and historic and cultural resources, then looking at the thriving economy chapter actions,

1060
01:29:08,980 --> 01:29:15,720
the two that are listed here, 7.2 and 7.3, enabling agriculture-related agricultural

1061
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:21,040
support services, and then also allowing additional revenue streams for agribusinesses,

1062
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,420
like restaurants, lodging, or other kinds of recreation.

1063
01:29:25,340 --> 01:29:28,260
So these two actions impact both the

1064
01:29:28,260 --> 01:29:30,400
really are at goals of preservation of

1065
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,680
unfragmented parcels and supporting

1066
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,100
local agriculture and also support

1067
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:36,540
the throttling economy chapters

1068
01:29:36,540 --> 01:29:39,480
objective of encouraging a thriving

1069
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:41,360
and modern agricultural economy,

1070
01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:43,460
which is why these particular ones

1071
01:29:43,460 --> 01:29:44,720
are prioritized here.

1072
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,720
So with that in mind, staff

1073
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,180
strongly recommends the prioritized

1074
01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:52,860
list of actions in attachment

1075
01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:54,270
to see the staff report for

1076
01:29:56,430 --> 01:29:59,810
and as we are moving forward with Phase 3,

1077
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,860
Next steps will be to receive the board's feedback on our prioritization.

1078
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:12,920
Begin our general broad engagement for the topic for the project on all of these kinds of topics.

1079
01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:19,900
And the project in general building community awareness and also building community learning about the zoning

1080
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:22,480
text amendment process and zoning in general.

1081
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:29,320
We will be building our focus topic groups with people with relevant experience in the topics.

1082
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:41,480
We'll be addressing in phase 3 and working with those groups to get input on details of how we'll be enacting these recommended actions from the comp plan into the zoning modernization project.

1083
01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:45,940
And then we'll be drafting that new ordinance with the feedback in mind.

1084
01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:50,260
And finally, reviewing it both internally and externally.

1085
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,340
So with that, thank you for your time today.

1086
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,480
And at this point, I would request the board

1087
01:30:59,480 --> 01:31:02,700
provide any feedback they have on our recommended

1088
01:31:02,700 --> 01:31:06,740
priorities, topics lists, and our general phase 3 plans.

1089
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:10,560
Thank you very much.

1090
01:31:10,820 --> 01:31:15,360
Supervisor Prue, it's just the first little AI me I've ever seen.

1091
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,420
I think that's supposed to be me in the bottom left

1092
01:31:18,420 --> 01:31:20,640
Suncanny, slightly unsettling,

1093
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:24,460
briefly stunned.

1094
01:31:26,260 --> 01:31:29,300
I want to begin by just asking a quick question.

1095
01:31:30,420 --> 01:31:36,440
We reviewed today the tier one with, I don't want to borrow the language that I know

1096
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:40,060
we had in the implementation plan of the comp plan, and I'm blanking on it, but something

1097
01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:43,920
like the big blocks or something, these are kind of comparable.

1098
01:31:44,620 --> 01:31:52,540
big moves, thank you, big moves. Is there a meta-prioritization within these tier 1 elements

1099
01:31:52,540 --> 01:31:58,760
or is this kind of representing peak staff capacity for things that can be handled simultaneously?

1100
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:08,360
When you say prioritization, you mean within the tier 1, we don't really have a prioritization

1101
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:15,280
that we're looking at those. The goal for all of those is to be within this project.

1102
01:32:16,860 --> 01:32:23,680
So when you do public community feedback sessions, they would be providing feedback on all the

1103
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:28,300
different things that have been identified in the tier one section. We would be handling each

1104
01:32:28,300 --> 01:32:33,680
topic separately. Okay. Okay. But they would still be roughly a pace with one another. Is

1105
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:47,140
I don't think we're going to be having seven top of meetings within a week. I think we will probably be handling them sequentially, but we don't have any particular sequence in mind at this point.

1106
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:58,860
Understood. Not to poke words in your mouth. It sounds like there will be a meta prioritization, but it is not clear what that prioritization schedule is going to look like.

1107
01:32:58,860 --> 01:33:01,240
I think I wouldn't really say prioritization.

1108
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:06,420
It's really more what comes up first, that'll really be a,

1109
01:33:08,540 --> 01:33:10,000
which groups can we build,

1110
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:17,880
which topics do we have time for at, you know, as we're handling phase two topics, that

1111
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:18,720
kind of thing.

1112
01:33:20,060 --> 01:33:22,800
That's actually all I have in the interest of getting us back at a schedule.

1113
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:25,840
Supervisor Lippie so currently.

1114
01:33:26,500 --> 01:33:27,760
Thank you very much.

1115
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:35,760
For the presentation, I really like what you're doing and it sounds to me and correct me

1116
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:42,760
if I'm wrong, but it sounds to me like you're taking things that can be easily or more

1117
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:50,280
easily, completed in a short-term amount of time because some of the other areas are going

1118
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:55,880
to take a lot longer, and so this way it shows that we're getting things done because we

1119
01:33:55,880 --> 01:34:01,780
are getting, you know, we're moving a little faster on the simpler things, I think he used

1120
01:34:01,780 --> 01:34:08,520
that word, the simpler things. Yes. So that is definitely what we're doing with Phase 2. Phase

1121
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:15,160
2 is bringing those changes that we can do as staff because they're really more administrative.

1122
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:22,240
Those things are moving quickly and we're trying to bring those two fruition at the end

1123
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,500
phase two at a much more rapid phase.

1124
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,920
The phase three things, those ones,

1125
01:34:29,060 --> 01:34:31,520
there are some larger topics, which is why we have a longer

1126
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,500
time span, a lot of it for them.

1127
01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,300
Things like increasing mixed use in residential districts,

1128
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:38,780
I know, is not a small topic.

1129
01:34:39,460 --> 01:34:41,300
So that's the kind of thing that we'll be addressing

1130
01:34:41,300 --> 01:34:44,840
on a larger time span.

1131
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:50,500
But then some of the things that we have not,

1132
01:34:50,500 --> 01:35:05,080
We have not allocated staff in time resources for finishing within that definite period, like the earlier at land uses plan, those are things that we're not encompassing within phase three.

1133
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,580
Okay, where are you encompassing that?

1134
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:17,940
That is a long range planning topic that is on the work program, which I will not speak about that work program.

1135
01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:21,460
But I do know that it is on the docket.

1136
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:27,040
It's just not on the necessarily like this next couple of years.

1137
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:28,280
OK, thank you.

1138
01:35:28,420 --> 01:35:29,920
Those are all the questions I have.

1139
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:31,580
Supervisor Missle.

1140
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:32,400
Thanks.

1141
01:35:33,260 --> 01:35:34,860
Thanks for the presentation, too.

1142
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,580
And I just have a few kind of broad questions

1143
01:35:37,580 --> 01:35:39,940
that I'll keep the specifics until later.

1144
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:44,140
One is, I really appreciate you walking us through the process

1145
01:35:44,140 --> 01:35:46,980
every time and building, showing us the building blocks

1146
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:51,760
That I've gotten us to this point because it's a good reminder. I think it's really important

1147
01:35:52,620 --> 01:35:58,820
When you should one of the slides I didn't catch the number, but it was early when you had the little timeline that zigzagged back and forth

1148
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:07,120
Can you remind us where there are opportunities so between now and I think it was July is the next meeting if I remember correctly

1149
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:12,440
Where the opportunities are for public input throughout this time March and July

1150
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:18,900
So, the public input was primarily in the comprehensive plan.

1151
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,260
We do not intend to have town hall meetings for this.

1152
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:27,140
We will be hearing from the public on things that they need clarification on, I know

1153
01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:34,620
that we are working closely with the CAPE team to get more information from the public on

1154
01:36:34,620 --> 01:36:41,340
what information they need, but it's really more of an enactment of the comprehensive plan

1155
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:43,220
that we have already approved.

1156
01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:47,260
So individual details on things that are very technical,

1157
01:36:47,480 --> 01:36:52,360
things like soil volumes for tree health,

1158
01:36:53,300 --> 01:36:57,680
or the heights of buildings for safety,

1159
01:36:58,300 --> 01:37:01,180
those kinds of things are not necessarily things

1160
01:37:01,180 --> 01:37:03,380
that we really need the public to weigh in on.

1161
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,880
Things that should we have more affordable housing,

1162
01:37:08,420 --> 01:37:10,040
we have already weighed in on as a community

1163
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,980
and that answer is yes so I don't want to we don't want to go and ask the same question

1164
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:18,780
over and over again yeah I understand that I guess I'll I'll go I'll riff a little bit off

1165
01:37:18,780 --> 01:37:24,760
of that a little bit further just seems that maybe maybe just a bit about it's going to answer

1166
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:29,620
this seems like as you to your point yes there are definitely things that were in the AC44

1167
01:37:29,620 --> 01:37:36,080
process that were well voiced by the community I think there are certain things in a zoning

1168
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,740
And it's though that there could be some input on, for example,

1169
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:44,920
how well are we doing in terms of efficiency, right?

1170
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,840
Or turning projects around more quickly, or sustainability being

1171
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:54,880
interact and involved and intertwined in the in the zoning

1172
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,920
ordinance, like you used affordable housing as an example, where

1173
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,580
affordable housing, you know, adding residue to commercial is one way

1174
01:38:02,580 --> 01:38:04,200
to help with those types of things.

1175
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:16,580
So I think there are ways to support other initiatives, right, like sustainability or rural areas or whatever those are that will need to be baked into this zoning ordinance and could benefit from public feedback.

1176
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:19,160
Just something to think about.

1177
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:31,100
parts about a deputy director community development. I'd just like to add that and give you a little preview of the AC-44 will be

1178
01:38:31,700 --> 01:38:39,760
Another update from that team will be coming in April, so that'll help tie some of this together and as far as feedback goes, we'll be

1179
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:45,500
He focusing a lot with the stakeholders. So on specific things like lighting or

1180
01:38:45,500 --> 01:38:54,420
or signage or housing will have specific groups to do that rather than a mass public

1181
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:57,080
work

1182
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:01,440
session or public input session on the individual things because we feel like those took

1183
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:04,900
place during the comprehensive plan and that's reflected in the goals.

1184
01:39:05,900 --> 01:39:06,160
Hope that helps.

1185
01:39:06,180 --> 01:39:10,840
So you will be getting information you'll get in but you'll have reviews of some of the

1186
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:11,560
initiatives that you're from.

1187
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:12,280
Yes sir.

1188
01:39:13,580 --> 01:39:14,240
That's great.

1189
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:18,480
Let's see.

1190
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:31,200
I think in terms of the priorities, just a couple of questions, one is, has the planning commission

1191
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:32,940
await in on the priorities?

1192
01:39:34,500 --> 01:39:39,460
No, we came to the board to ask about the board's priorities for this project.

1193
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,400
So no information from the planning commission on it.

1194
01:39:42,780 --> 01:39:47,120
Okay, and I think I heard this, maybe I didn't.

1195
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:47,880
Maybe I heard this incorrectly.

1196
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,320
You mentioned the tiers.

1197
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:50,980
You went through tier one, two, three.

1198
01:39:51,020 --> 01:39:51,740
That was really helpful.

1199
01:39:51,740 --> 01:39:55,920
So, to your three, do you mention that an example of that is the rural areas plan?

1200
01:39:57,180 --> 01:40:08,800
So, some of the actions in the Comprehensive Plan talk about things like allowing non-residential

1201
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:20,420
non-regional uses to be allowed in existing structures in what could theoretically be a crossroads community,

1202
01:40:20,420 --> 01:40:24,640
although we don't really have a designation for that at this point, looking into things like

1203
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:31,260
the Crossroads communities and how that land use would be impacted, whether we have a designation

1204
01:40:31,260 --> 01:40:35,820
for those, whether we're looking at village residential properties, a lot of different questions

1205
01:40:35,820 --> 01:40:40,500
like that. That's the kind of thing that we would look at in the rural areas land use plan.

1206
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:45,840
Yeah, and that's a tier 3 initiative. Yes. So when you're talking about the near-term

1207
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:52,340
special topics like revising regs for special events, additional historic property, all good

1208
01:40:52,340 --> 01:40:58,000
things, I think at some point I guess there'll be a part of a larger plan and I would just

1209
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:03,580
want to make sure that we ensure that we have an action plan associated with the rural areas

1210
01:41:03,580 --> 01:41:09,400
plan, so that these tier three items don't just get sort of swept under the rug and kind of

1211
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:14,140
forgotten about for a couple of years and then you know meanwhile we're making a lot of smaller

1212
01:41:14,140 --> 01:41:18,560
initiatives that are really part of a broader potential plan?

1213
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:25,600
Yeah, I do, as Mr. Svota brought up, I do think that you will be hearing a lot more about

1214
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:32,080
the really-is-plan and the intentions for the timing of that project, and those particular

1215
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:38,420
initiatives that they're bringing forward when the long-range team brings their presentation

1216
01:41:38,420 --> 01:41:39,520
to you.

1217
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:40,360
Excellent.

1218
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,500
And then the last thing I'll say and I think hopefully this is in the scope of your question is just to, you know,

1219
01:41:45,620 --> 01:41:49,880
I remind you, I know you'll do this. Just keep your eyes on affordable housing, keep your eyes on sustainability.

1220
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:57,580
How those are all interwoven since the intent was that AC44 would focus on climate action, resilience, et cetera.

1221
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:06,220
As we're going through this, those landings are really important as we think about priorities and we think about more specific zoning categories.

1222
01:42:06,220 --> 01:42:10,020
categories. That's all. Thank you. Supervisor Duncan.

1223
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:19,540
Um, yeah, this is great. Um, I really love everything that you guys have in

1224
01:42:19,540 --> 01:42:24,280
a touch and see the priorities. If all of these were in the zoning

1225
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:30,360
ordinance and match the compound, I would be absolutely overjoyed. So, um, yeah,

1226
01:42:30,380 --> 01:42:35,460
I like what you guys have picked out. I also really like, um, the kind of community

1227
01:42:35,460 --> 01:42:44,620
outreach in sort of the creativity with, you know, the online resource, the podcast, all that kind of stuff, this looks really, really great.

1228
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:50,880
So, I know this is, was a lot of work and will be a lot of work, but this is just looks really fantastic.

1229
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:52,880
Thank you.

1230
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:54,300
Supervisor Malik.

1231
01:42:55,220 --> 01:42:55,860
Thank you.

1232
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:02,000
And in concurrence with what others have said as well, but I do have a couple things I want to clarify.

1233
01:43:05,340 --> 01:43:10,340
So if I heard correctly from Bart, focusing on the stakeholders, is what you think?

1234
01:43:10,340 --> 01:43:11,900
And we're getting a sign, if you could.

1235
01:43:11,940 --> 01:43:16,320
Oh, not, okay. There we go. I guess I'm ready here.

1236
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:21,800
So the stakeholder groups will be your primary source of input on this next element.

1237
01:43:22,740 --> 01:43:29,360
Stateholder groups and internal and external partners like things like VDOT,

1238
01:43:29,500 --> 01:43:31,980
Parks and Rec, all of our departments that we work with.

1239
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:38,560
So these are considered customers, you know, but we always need to remember that our citizens

1240
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:39,880
are customers.

1241
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:44,880
So I'm glad to know from the second page about the podcasts and the other ways for people to

1242
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:44,980
say.

1243
01:43:45,460 --> 01:43:50,140
It was very difficult with the earlier stakeholder groups for the AC44 for anybody not in the

1244
01:43:50,140 --> 01:43:54,560
group to even find out what was going on, or what was, I mean, there were no minutes, there

1245
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:59,340
was nothing available. I wasn't allowed to listen in, I mean, it was very bizarre. So

1246
01:43:59,340 --> 01:44:04,500
anyway, I think there was some negativity from that from the public. So I'm glad to know

1247
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:11,880
that you're going to have more information available as you go along, because as I would

1248
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,500
say to my new late teenage children, I will find out. And when I find out from somebody else

1249
01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:19,260
Center for you, I will be even more angry than I am right now.

1250
01:44:19,820 --> 01:44:24,160
So I think it's always important to share that information appropriately at the beginning.

1251
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:31,300
You mentioned four categories of growth management, policy implementation, blah, blah, blah.

1252
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:36,220
Environmental protection, sustainability was not there on that list that you mentioned.

1253
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,360
Where is it?

1254
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:43,260
I mean, it's in the framework, but it wasn't mentioned today, so I just want to make sure

1255
01:44:43,260 --> 01:44:53,400
it is in this next. So the categories of the topics that are prioritized are based

1256
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,480
on the primary actions that are from the Comprehensive Plan.

1257
01:44:57,480 --> 01:44:59,980
So the...

1258
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,220
Accountability topics that we have in the Comprehensive Plan right now are much more policy-based and less regulation-based.

1259
01:45:09,100 --> 01:45:20,360
A lot of the actions in the Comprehensive Plan, as I read them, are things like expanding credits or reaching out to create partnerships or having initiatives.

1260
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:30,420
Those are things that are not regulatory, those are policies, or they are board-level initiatives that are not necessarily written into the zoning ordinance.

1261
01:45:31,300 --> 01:45:35,560
But things like water protection buffers, those are regulatory, absolutely.

1262
01:45:35,900 --> 01:45:40,780
And so that's what I'm looking for is to make sure that those environmental sides,

1263
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:47,960
where we've sort of fallen down in the last 20 years or since 2014 for sure in our enforcement of because of the way the laws were changed.

1264
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,680
I mean, this is clean water, which is why the Whitehall District was down zone, basically

1265
01:45:55,680 --> 01:46:01,060
in 1980, and so we want to make sure not to lose that advantage that we have now for

1266
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:01,640
water protection.

1267
01:46:02,260 --> 01:46:06,860
And yes, it's a policy, but it also has to be regulated otherwise, it will fail.

1268
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,300
I'm sorry, are you referring to the Reparian Buffer ordinance?

1269
01:46:11,180 --> 01:46:15,520
Well, that's just one example of the many ways that this has to be done in the largest

1270
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,400
Notting is so time to be reassured that everything's under control.

1271
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,200
Yeah, because that one is coming.

1272
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:21,540
Okay, very good.

1273
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:22,400
Secondly,

1274
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:32,560
I've glad to hear you used the example of a neighborhood residential in the rural area and a list of other uses,

1275
01:46:32,660 --> 01:46:41,000
which will certainly help some of my constituents who have been sitting in the residential property on a,

1276
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:46,740
on a crossroads that have not been able to basically do anything even have a garden center for the last 20 years.

1277
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:53,900
So I assume that the sort of expansive approach may help people in that circumstance to be able to move forward,

1278
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,040
which is wonderful under your surface.

1279
01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:02,320
It's been a lot of time with one of my constituents for that very thing, so hopefully this is coming from that.

1280
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:10,460
Also very glad to hear about the A to use for zoning smaller lot sizes, incredibly important,

1281
01:47:11,860 --> 01:47:15,640
because having smaller houses requires a smaller lot otherwise it's not financial.

1282
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:22,260
No bank is going to loan money if the land is costing more than 15 or 20% of the whole thing.

1283
01:47:22,740 --> 01:47:24,060
So that's important.

1284
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:26,400
Modular homes.

1285
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:33,020
I'm really glad to see that because they actually allow people to build equity.

1286
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,200
Whereas manufacturers do not.

1287
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:41,260
So any place where in my opinion we could foster modular home use instead of

1288
01:47:41,260 --> 01:47:45,660
manufactured that would be a benefit for the people who live there and buy them.

1289
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:51,280
And someone mentioned a while ago that modular homes are forbidden in our county zoning and

1290
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,840
barters shaking his head and I keep trying to say, no, I have them all around me. Why in the

1291
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:59,100
world, but you think that? But they've been told that maybe 20 years ago, but anyway, I'm glad to

1292
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:07,140
know I will put a big no by that so I have the rest of the information and I'll be interested to

1293
01:48:07,140 --> 01:48:11,340
see how the changes are proposed for the special events in real area.

1294
01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:15,780
I think we haven't seen many of those because so many of the people doing them are doing

1295
01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:19,520
a run around through a, you know, I'm going to plant a hot plant and a raspberry bush

1296
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,640
and call myself a brewery in the States as fine.

1297
01:48:22,260 --> 01:48:25,280
And so that's how they're getting all of these special events.

1298
01:48:26,420 --> 01:48:30,560
But there have been plenty historically over the years who have done the proper process, very

1299
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:31,080
successfully.

1300
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,740
And so hopefully we'll still have that available.

1301
01:48:34,820 --> 01:48:42,350
And I think, and the public input, I will just say that last night in my report to the

1302
01:48:42,350 --> 01:48:45,170
Crosse Community Association, which is 46 years old this year.

1303
01:48:45,970 --> 01:48:49,430
I said, remember the zoning modernization is starting, and please share your ideas.

1304
01:48:50,270 --> 01:48:52,050
So people will be watching, I think.

1305
01:48:52,170 --> 01:48:53,090
Thank you.

1306
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:01,560
I like the approach of track and react, given the public fat ability versus having to do a whole

1307
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,980
and we just did years of engagement on this.

1308
01:49:05,540 --> 01:49:06,460
And it's going time.

1309
01:49:06,940 --> 01:49:12,220
And this board is the one that has to determine what the actions are and prioritize those actions and go.

1310
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,720
And anything else, frankly, process wise,

1311
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:19,100
it's not about bouncing or blocking or boxing anybody out.

1312
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,580
It's about saving the time.

1313
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,600
I mean, we get enough criticism about how long things take.

1314
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:32,320
Well, you know, we just, at the MPO, had to reconsider a citizen advisory committee that's

1315
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:36,840
been long-standing and that was created 30 years ago because citizen engagement was very

1316
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,760
different 30 years ago than how we all do things now.

1317
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:44,060
And a track and react kind of method is pretty good.

1318
01:49:44,580 --> 01:49:45,800
Here's where I can find it.

1319
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,040
I can see what's going on.

1320
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,300
If I have an opinion, I can weigh it in.

1321
01:49:49,300 --> 01:49:54,140
But, and it moves with the speed of the actions that are happening.

1322
01:49:55,620 --> 01:49:57,340
So I appreciate that.

1323
01:49:57,940 --> 01:50:03,940
And when the board feels we need advisory reaction from regardless of which committees

1324
01:50:03,940 --> 01:50:08,340
kind of live under our umbrella, then we can specifically ask for that.

1325
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,340
Let's send that out to X, Y, or Z.

1326
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,900
But it doesn't slow us down in the meantime.

1327
01:50:13,900 --> 01:50:20,540
because I mean look, I think all of this, I've heard at different points, I know in my

1328
01:50:20,540 --> 01:50:27,940
CAC meeting, in trying to get to the final vote on the comp plan, where our citizen advisory

1329
01:50:27,940 --> 01:50:32,560
committee members are a little more engaged because they're paying what I mean, just because

1330
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,040
it'd be a nature of that committee member, and they're kind of looking back at you with eyes

1331
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,460
with like, get on with it already.

1332
01:50:39,380 --> 01:50:43,060
So they're happy to track and react, but I don't know that they would say, oh, you got to

1333
01:50:43,060 --> 01:50:46,540
bring that back here on everything that you do and let me take a look at.

1334
01:50:47,980 --> 01:50:48,720
Move along.

1335
01:50:50,620 --> 01:50:55,420
I think I misspoke earlier made a confusing statement myself, so I appreciate,

1336
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,720
alright, we're just looking at the zoning modernization.

1337
01:50:58,900 --> 01:51:02,720
We're not looking at all the policy pieces related to that,

1338
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:07,620
but that is coming in April then, because my comment earlier was about housing

1339
01:51:07,620 --> 01:51:13,580
albumer and we committed during the comp plan that that would be in the immediate supposed

1340
01:51:13,580 --> 01:51:17,400
to get a regular five year review but it would need to be immediate upon the closure

1341
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:22,400
of this last comp plan. So I'm assuming in April we're going to learn about those prioritizations

1342
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:37,600
is that what I was catching on. Yeah the April. Other work lists. The April meeting is the

1343
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,300
and the long range planning team work.

1344
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:46,700
But the overall housing overall is outside of the team.

1345
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:48,060
As well as other policy.

1346
01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:50,440
Yes, it's the other policy.

1347
01:51:50,620 --> 01:51:54,480
Just have to get my head on that says, all right,

1348
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,380
you know, put the zoning stuff in one silo and then the policies

1349
01:51:58,380 --> 01:51:59,140
and another.

1350
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:03,740
Because when I see AC44, I'm still like it all, it's all there.

1351
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,440
But the action plan you have to coordinate out.

1352
01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:07,780
So I appreciate that.

1353
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,480
In terms of getting this little down to these 40 items,

1354
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:12,040
I think it's well done.

1355
01:52:12,260 --> 01:52:14,820
Like, I don't go through this and look at the other list

1356
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:18,120
and go, I mean, to march through it and go,

1357
01:52:18,260 --> 01:52:19,140
well, you didn't include this one.

1358
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,040
We need to add a 41 or we need to do,

1359
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:22,940
because it's not as if we're saying we're not going

1360
01:52:22,940 --> 01:52:25,260
to do any past the top ones.

1361
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,440
It's just the prioritization of their here.

1362
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,020
The meta prioritization conversation was interesting.

1363
01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:33,480
And I don't know that that has to be developed yet

1364
01:52:33,480 --> 01:52:35,760
because you can see how you go in what's working.

1365
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,840
Sometimes that change is right in front of you like oh man, we could knock this one out right now

1366
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:44,280
First and you might I know that you know in May or you know what I mean

1367
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:50,240
So I appreciate that as a approach, but for the for the most part happy with all of the

1368
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:55,980
Action items that are we're wittled down in the 40 are there any additional questions or comments for staff?

1369
01:52:56,380 --> 01:53:01,340
Is there anything that we haven't reacted to that you wish we had I?

1370
01:53:01,340 --> 01:53:05,040
think you've pretty much covered it.

1371
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,200
I do hear that we have some support and

1372
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:17,280
some trepidation about our alternative digital selves, but other than that.

1373
01:53:18,580 --> 01:53:21,740
Yeah, we're going to weigh in on that by the next time too.

1374
01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:26,880
I like it. I'm just glad there's no bald spots visible.

1375
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,580
Where are all these graves come from?

1376
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:32,240
All right, well, thank you very much for the presentation.

1377
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,200
Board, we would have had a recess.

1378
01:53:35,440 --> 01:53:37,060
So I think we should take a quick.

1379
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,440
I would call it a five minute recess if we can,

1380
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:44,000
just a biobric, and we'll come back and return as soon as possible

1381
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:45,100
to move to the next item.

1382
01:53:59,670 --> 01:54:02,450
All right, Board, we are coming back from recess,

1383
01:54:02,710 --> 01:54:06,730
and we will move now to item number 10, smart scale,

1384
01:54:07,410 --> 01:54:09,650
transportation, project funding applications,

1385
01:54:09,650 --> 01:54:14,030
And we welcome Jessica to the, is this your first time here?

1386
01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:15,050
This is.

1387
01:54:15,170 --> 01:54:16,950
All right, I'll let you do your introductions

1388
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:19,510
because we got Anna and I got a little sneak peek

1389
01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:20,890
at the MPO meeting, I know.

1390
01:54:21,330 --> 01:54:21,410
Great.

1391
01:54:22,090 --> 01:54:25,310
Thank you, Chair Galloway, and good afternoon members of the board.

1392
01:54:26,050 --> 01:54:26,850
I'm Jessica Dimmick.

1393
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:29,630
I'm the new principal transportation planner

1394
01:54:29,630 --> 01:54:31,550
in the community development department.

1395
01:54:32,110 --> 01:54:34,410
If you remember Jessica Hirsch Ballering,

1396
01:54:34,610 --> 01:54:39,630
I am filling the position that she,

1397
01:54:39,630 --> 01:54:42,150
as Schwarzenegger and Mr. Kevin McDermott.

1398
01:54:42,850 --> 01:54:46,850
Today, I'm sharing information on eight transportation projects

1399
01:54:46,850 --> 01:54:49,190
in Albumeral County that are being considered

1400
01:54:49,190 --> 01:54:51,310
for smart scale funding applications.

1401
01:54:52,570 --> 01:54:54,210
We're sharing this information today

1402
01:54:54,210 --> 01:54:56,590
because the April 1st deadline for submitting

1403
01:54:56,590 --> 01:54:59,310
pre-applications is coming up.

1404
01:54:59,830 --> 01:55:01,650
Today, I'll share a brief overview

1405
01:55:01,650 --> 01:55:03,830
of the smart scale funding program

1406
01:55:05,830 --> 01:55:08,510
and review the eight projects that are being considered

1407
01:55:08,510 --> 01:55:09,530
for this round.

1408
01:55:10,590 --> 01:55:15,850
These projects were previously shared with the board in November of last year as part of

1409
01:55:15,850 --> 01:55:17,570
the Transportation Quarterly Report.

1410
01:55:19,730 --> 01:55:25,810
SmartScale is the primary method for funding large-scale transportation projects here in Virginia.

1411
01:55:26,890 --> 01:55:32,110
It is administered by the State Office of Intermodal Planning and Investment under direction

1412
01:55:32,110 --> 01:55:34,090
of the Commonwealth Transportation Board.

1413
01:55:34,090 --> 01:55:41,010
And it can fund up to 100% of transportation project costs, including engineering, design,

1414
01:55:41,170 --> 01:55:42,290
right-of-way, and construction.

1415
01:55:42,990 --> 01:55:44,810
No local match is required.

1416
01:55:46,270 --> 01:55:53,150
Localities and MPOs can each apply for up to four applications every two years.

1417
01:55:53,950 --> 01:56:01,090
Pre-applications are required, and they are due on April 1st, full applications are due on August 1st.

1418
01:56:01,090 --> 01:56:10,370
And we will be coming back to you all in June to request a formal resolution of support to accompany those full applications.

1419
01:56:11,970 --> 01:56:25,990
The Commonwealth Transportation Board selects projects through a competitive scoring process that reflects their transportation priorities and projects that have been identified in state funding studies are generally most competitive.

1420
01:56:27,970 --> 01:56:32,010
These are the eight projects that we'll talk about today.

1421
01:56:32,630 --> 01:56:36,230
I'll walk through each one of these in a more in a little bit.

1422
01:56:36,810 --> 01:56:40,950
Note that as staff, we are continuing to work with FeedOut to refine

1423
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:43,230
these project descriptions and sketches.

1424
01:56:43,810 --> 01:56:47,970
And so what you see today will change will be tweaked in some form

1425
01:56:48,630 --> 01:56:51,150
between now and the full application deadline.

1426
01:56:51,790 --> 01:56:54,370
In fact, because these are moving so quickly,

1427
01:56:54,370 --> 01:56:59,550
the project descriptions that we submitted at the time of the meeting packet deadlines have changed,

1428
01:57:00,090 --> 01:57:06,030
and so I believe you have a special handout in your packet that shows the updated project descriptions.

1429
01:57:08,170 --> 01:57:13,290
So let's look first at Barrick's Road and the 29250 bypass.

1430
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:20,730
There are two projects that are being considered for applications here, one from the county and one from the MPO.

1431
01:57:20,730 --> 01:57:26,370
Both of these projects were identified in the barracks road project pipeline study to address

1432
01:57:26,370 --> 01:57:29,970
safety and pedestrian and bicycle access needs.

1433
01:57:31,860 --> 01:57:37,220
On the west side of the interchange, this is a project that Alamro County would submit

1434
01:57:37,220 --> 01:57:38,120
for.

1435
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:45,500
This project will add a right turn lane on eastbound barracks road going on to the southbound

1436
01:57:45,500 --> 01:57:46,100
bypass.

1437
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:50,960
It would close the median opening at Ricky Road.

1438
01:57:50,960 --> 01:58:00,160
relocate the bus stop that is currently at Ciri Road over to the southeast corner of Barracks and Bennington Road

1439
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:09,780
and it would construct a pedestrian connection from that relocated bus stop across Barracks Road to tie into the existing sidewalk

1440
01:58:09,780 --> 01:58:18,340
that would include a crosswalk across the ramp across the crosswalk across Barracks Road and new sidewalk on the south side of Barracks Road

1441
01:58:21,700 --> 01:58:50,840
Immediately to the east of that is a project that the MPO would submit for this project would make modifications to the Northbound Off-Ramp, including extending the length of the deceleration lane, widening and re-aligning the Northbound Off-Ramp to provide two left-turn lanes and one right-turn lane, adding sidewalk on both sides of barracks road from the existing sidewalk in the city.

1442
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:56,820
to the intersection with the southbound ramps and adding a crosswalk across

1443
01:58:56,820 --> 01:59:00,660
barracks road. That crosswalk is the same crosswalk that's in the previous

1444
01:59:00,660 --> 01:59:05,700
project such that if only one of these projects is funded that crosswalk would

1445
01:59:05,700 --> 01:59:06,440
get constructed.

1446
01:59:09,810 --> 01:59:14,630
Moving west to Croze, this project was identified in the

1447
01:59:14,630 --> 01:59:22,650
Croze master plan and it has been submitted in the past two rounds of smart

1448
01:59:22,650 --> 01:59:38,610
It is a project to convert the signalized intersection at U.S. 250 an old trail road from a signalized intersection to around about as well as add crosswalks and pedestrian connections.

1449
01:59:42,540 --> 01:59:49,540
Moving on to Ivy Road near the 29-250 bypass, there are four projects being considered here.

1450
01:59:49,540 --> 01:59:59,400
All of them have been identified in the Ivy Road project pipeline study, and these are to address safety, congestion, mitigation, and bicycle access needs.

1451
02:00:00,690 --> 02:00:08,030
The first two are projects the MPO would submit for, and these make modifications to the mainline bypass.

1452
02:00:08,830 --> 02:00:23,850
The first is to extend the length of the deceleration lane on southbound 250 to the off ramp to give motorists a longer distance to change lanes and slow down in advance of the off ramp.

1453
02:00:23,850 --> 02:00:30,930
And then the other project is to extend the length of the acceleration length to give a longer

1454
02:00:30,930 --> 02:00:34,970
distance to merge onto U.S. 29 and the northbound direction.

1455
02:00:36,790 --> 02:00:42,150
Both of these projects are intended to reduce congestion and reduce congestion-related crashes.

1456
02:00:44,730 --> 02:00:50,510
This project projects C and the next project project D are related to each other.

1457
02:00:51,230 --> 02:01:20,210
This project, Project C, we're calling full recommendations, it has a variety of recommendations from the Ivy Road Project Pipeline study, including around about Ivy Road and Canobary Road Old Garth Road, around about at Ivy Road and Bores Head Drive, Cold Ridge Drive, a median in between the two for access management and to reduce conflict points and a shared use path along Ivy Road.

1458
02:01:20,510 --> 02:01:27,470
between the two. This project has a lot of benefits. It's also expected to be very high cost.

1459
02:01:28,510 --> 02:01:37,350
And so the next project is a variation of the former project that focuses on the round about

1460
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:44,170
at Canobary Road and the Shared Use Path along IV Road. While this project has lesser benefits,

1461
02:01:44,170 --> 02:01:46,170
It will also have a lower cost.

1462
02:01:47,430 --> 02:01:54,250
We are planning to apply for both projects separately to increase the chances that at least

1463
02:01:54,250 --> 02:01:57,470
one of these projects would be funded at this location.

1464
02:01:59,950 --> 02:02:05,310
And finally, the last project is at 5th Street and I-64, I-1120.

1465
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:09,130
This is a project that has been many years in the making.

1466
02:02:10,110 --> 02:02:14,130
It was, it has been identified over 12 or more years.

1467
02:02:15,710 --> 02:02:22,370
This project was identified to be a diverging diamond interchange with a shared use path.

1468
02:02:22,850 --> 02:02:27,510
That was identified as a preferred alternative and was submitted in the prior round of smart scale.

1469
02:02:28,590 --> 02:02:34,670
We ought to determine that the existing bridge over I-64 could not accommodate the width of the shared use path.

1470
02:02:34,670 --> 02:02:41,770
In order to accommodate a shared use path they would need a bridge replacement, which would make the project cost almost $80 million.

1471
02:02:42,750 --> 02:02:47,770
Because that project was so high cost, it did not score very well and was not selected for funding.

1472
02:02:48,970 --> 02:02:54,890
So Vidaot has conducted this most recent study to value engineer the concept to be more competitive for funding.

1473
02:02:56,210 --> 02:03:01,130
This is the current concept, which we are continuing to work with Vidaot to refine.

1474
02:03:01,130 --> 02:03:04,590
You can see it includes the diverging diamond interchange.

1475
02:03:05,210 --> 02:03:10,210
It retains the existing bridge over I-64 and the existing sidewalk.

1476
02:03:11,410 --> 02:03:23,050
It would add a new shared use path from the northern part of the bridge deck to connect to the future fifth street trails hub project at the Starbucks.

1477
02:03:23,050 --> 02:03:30,890
And it would also add a set new sidewalk connecting from the south point of the bridge deck

1478
02:03:30,890 --> 02:03:36,210
further south along fifth street to connect and tie into the existing sidewalk.

1479
02:03:38,980 --> 02:03:44,740
So that's an overview of the eight projects that are being considered for submission.

1480
02:03:45,500 --> 02:03:47,160
Pre-applications are required.

1481
02:03:48,300 --> 02:03:53,340
They're due April 1st after which point we cannot submit any new projects.

1482
02:03:53,340 --> 02:03:56,720
And I would be happy to answer any questions.

1483
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:58,700
Thank you.

1484
02:03:59,660 --> 02:04:00,660
Supervisor Perut.

1485
02:04:02,780 --> 02:04:03,160
Thank you.

1486
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:06,520
Can we go back one slide to slide 15?

1487
02:04:07,660 --> 02:04:08,900
Can you help me understand?

1488
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:12,340
There's only one thing I'm a little unclear what I'm looking at.

1489
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:26,520
In the ramp on to 64 going west or sorry going east.

1490
02:04:27,140 --> 02:04:30,600
Is that the shared use path going under the ramp?

1491
02:04:33,630 --> 02:04:36,870
So, open to the right of you.

1492
02:04:39,830 --> 02:04:41,190
Further, further, keep going.

1493
02:04:41,970 --> 02:04:45,110
Is that the shared use path going underneath the traffic ramp?

1494
02:04:45,410 --> 02:04:46,470
I'm unclear what I'm looking at there.

1495
02:04:46,490 --> 02:04:48,130
I see what you, I see your question.

1496
02:04:48,690 --> 02:04:54,350
This is a shared use path tying into the existing sidewalk on the bridge.

1497
02:04:54,350 --> 02:05:11,710
So, the path with narrow and tie into the existing sidewalk, it's not going under, and it's using the fact that there's, I'm just, I also want to clarify because I'm seeing crosswalk striping and other locations, but not there.

1498
02:05:13,070 --> 02:05:16,150
Here, it's missing the crosswalk striping.

1499
02:05:16,670 --> 02:05:20,030
That is a comment that we've identified to submit to Vida.

1500
02:05:20,030 --> 02:05:30,070
Okay, and I want to make sure I'm correctly understanding also this the revaluation survey has been fully conducted this is the product of that and so there's no more additional

1501
02:05:30,070 --> 02:05:37,830
There's not additional stuff that we're still conducting between now and submission of a of a product for actual

1502
02:05:39,590 --> 02:05:40,570
Deployment funding

1503
02:05:42,590 --> 02:05:48,170
or am I misunderstanding that I think you're correct. They're supposed to prove it

1504
02:05:48,170 --> 02:05:55,810
they are still doing some minor refinements to this such as we're asking them to reevaluate

1505
02:05:55,810 --> 02:06:01,570
the full extent of the shared use path and see if we can maybe bring it all the way to the actual

1506
02:06:01,570 --> 02:06:07,790
bridge. At the bridge as we said they can't they can't add a shared use path on and retain the bridge.

1507
02:06:08,270 --> 02:06:13,390
So I think what we're probably going to end up having is a sign that says Biker's must dismount

1508
02:06:13,390 --> 02:06:23,110
to cross the bridge, but other than that, you know, it's going to be minor tweaks in cost estimating that they're making between now and the final submission.

1509
02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:24,650
I don't think there's going to be any major changes.

1510
02:06:25,270 --> 02:06:25,450
Thank you.

1511
02:06:25,930 --> 02:06:29,390
And can this is Kevin just for the record if you would?

1512
02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:30,330
Yeah.

1513
02:06:30,570 --> 02:06:33,390
Of course Kevin McDermott on the Deputy Director of Planning.

1514
02:06:34,470 --> 02:06:37,150
Can you for both my own reminder?

1515
02:06:37,810 --> 02:06:39,570
I'm almost asked this question before.

1516
02:06:39,570 --> 02:06:47,350
but also for the board and the public from under, is there an anticipated gap in a continual

1517
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:56,110
shared use path between the project outside Cobb Vist Street and if both of these projects

1518
02:06:56,110 --> 02:07:05,300
proceed forward? There is still a gap that we are working to address. So if there is the

1519
02:07:05,300 --> 02:07:08,040
around about that's going in in front of Cobb fifth

1520
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:10,800
that that should be under construction within this year.

1521
02:07:11,140 --> 02:07:15,260
So likely this summer, and that will add a shared use path

1522
02:07:15,260 --> 02:07:19,160
along with the ABC development down to heading north

1523
02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:20,340
to the next intersection.

1524
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:25,820
And then we are working with developers on the attain project

1525
02:07:25,820 --> 02:07:29,440
to possibly extend that shared use path across their property.

1526
02:07:29,820 --> 02:07:32,540
And then you end up with a section of sidewalk

1527
02:07:32,540 --> 02:07:35,780
that we currently don't have funding for,

1528
02:07:36,460 --> 02:07:40,260
that we'd have to continue to look for a way to complete

1529
02:07:40,260 --> 02:07:42,480
and that brings you to this project.

1530
02:07:43,260 --> 02:07:47,520
So there's a gap of what we would call a shared use path,

1531
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:48,580
but it is still sidewalk.

1532
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:52,520
It's just a less robust path with current.

1533
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:54,700
Great.

1534
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:58,340
I think that will be all.

1535
02:07:58,980 --> 02:08:00,360
I will leave my question there for now.

1536
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:06,520
Supervisor Luffy Stoker. Yes, I don't I didn't pay attention to the slide number

1537
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:12,540
but if you go back the very think it's slide two or three where Barrett's road was and you

1538
02:08:12,540 --> 02:08:27,600
talked about the yes, okay. So there will or will not be a left turn lane going east from Barrett's road.

1539
02:08:30,060 --> 02:08:40,240
This left-turn lane eastbound to go southbound on the bypass, no, no, no, what am I getting my dirt westbound?

1540
02:08:40,500 --> 02:08:44,860
It's under the left-turn is down and pass the bridge.

1541
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:46,600
Here?

1542
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:47,900
I don't know, this one.

1543
02:08:50,220 --> 02:08:57,120
Are you asking about the eastbound left-turn to go north on the bypass?

1544
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:58,900
So that would be going under the bridge.

1545
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:03,100
You couldn't, okay, that movement will be retained.

1546
02:09:03,580 --> 02:09:05,400
There is a left turn name, all right, yes.

1547
02:09:05,740 --> 02:09:07,500
Thank you, because you mentioned the median

1548
02:09:08,020 --> 02:09:10,620
and as a little confused, sorry, thank you.

1549
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:11,800
Good presentation.

1550
02:09:14,340 --> 02:09:15,280
Supervisor Missile.

1551
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:17,060
Great, thanks, nice to meet you.

1552
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:18,260
Welcome to the team.

1553
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:20,740
And just a couple of quick questions on this slide

1554
02:09:20,740 --> 02:09:22,000
while you've got it up.

1555
02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:24,640
And the next slide, I think,

1556
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:34,380
If you look to the left and this slide, so further I guess that's south, there's an additional turn lane.

1557
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:43,780
Sorry, good to put next slide, slide seven and then go to slide eight and nine.

1558
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:50,260
Gosh, well, there was a slide. I thought there was some improvements. It's the one at Ivy.

1559
02:09:50,260 --> 02:09:59,060
So, does that lane connect to right sort of to the right there? Does that lane actually

1560
02:09:59,060 --> 02:10:04,740
is there an additional lane that goes all the way down to barracks right on the north

1561
02:10:04,740 --> 02:10:12,380
south, north-bound side? On the north-bound side. So, this is extending the acceleration

1562
02:10:12,380 --> 02:10:16,840
lane, but it does. Right. That's the acceleration tie into a deceleration lane.

1563
02:10:17,500 --> 02:10:24,860
Yeah, it's not shown on here, or you can't see it clearly, but the intent of that acceleration

1564
02:10:24,860 --> 02:10:31,320
lane is actually going to allow people to get off at the other side of the lander

1565
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:32,200
Sandrich exit.

1566
02:10:32,500 --> 02:10:38,100
Yeah, so you would be able to, because we see so many vehicles that are actually just trying

1567
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:44,320
to get from IV or old IV up to Leonard Sandrich, this would be a continuous lane to connect

1568
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:44,820
to that.

1569
02:10:44,820 --> 02:10:48,340
It does not connect to the barracks road, though.

1570
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:49,720
Doesn't go all the way down that floor.

1571
02:10:50,020 --> 02:10:51,420
No, just to Leonard's sandwich.

1572
02:10:51,940 --> 02:10:53,180
There's no additional right term.

1573
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:54,080
I got it.

1574
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:55,440
Off of Leonard's sandwich, right?

1575
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:57,040
Got it.

1576
02:10:57,140 --> 02:10:57,680
Thank you.

1577
02:10:58,420 --> 02:10:59,280
Now, I can't help it.

1578
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,400
But I know you had in here you addressed exit 118.

1579
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:05,420
Can you give us a little bit of an update there?

1580
02:11:05,580 --> 02:11:06,980
Is it just where still study?

1581
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:09,620
He got his still studying it.

1582
02:11:10,500 --> 02:11:14,220
They presented three, they identified three potential

1583
02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:21,900
solutions and they were negatively received, all three were negatively received and they need

1584
02:11:21,900 --> 02:11:30,060
more time to figure out a solution that works. So it's going to continue to be studied but we

1585
02:11:30,060 --> 02:11:35,800
will not have a solution ready in time for the smart scale funding headlines. Thank you. And is that

1586
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:44,200
if I remember correctly, that does not include the improvements of Fontaine, or does that

1587
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:48,300
That's it. Okay, that's all I had. Thank you. Supervisor Duncan.

1588
02:11:50,900 --> 02:11:57,820
I'm happy to see the barracks road stuff on here. I'm the roundabout of Cannerbury.

1589
02:11:58,180 --> 02:12:04,900
I hate that intersection. The smart skill funding comes through six years after it's approved.

1590
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:05,880
Correct?

1591
02:12:09,690 --> 02:12:15,310
It's programmed four years out. So we're filling the last two years of the six year program.

1592
02:12:15,310 --> 02:12:20,610
So unless there's some sort of change by the administration

1593
02:12:20,610 --> 02:12:22,350
to move a project forward, typically,

1594
02:12:22,830 --> 02:12:26,510
those projects are four years after the decision

1595
02:12:26,510 --> 02:12:27,810
has made to award the funding.

1596
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:32,350
And that's then you get the money that you start designing

1597
02:12:32,350 --> 02:12:33,010
and constructing.

1598
02:12:33,950 --> 02:12:38,910
And so from application to if a project was picked,

1599
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:40,890
how long is it before you can start?

1600
02:12:41,190 --> 02:12:41,990
But people are finished.

1601
02:12:43,010 --> 02:12:51,630
Well, that depends on the project, obviously, in timelines, but we typically see up to eight

1602
02:12:51,630 --> 02:12:57,310
years between when a project's picked and when it actually gets completed for construction.

1603
02:12:58,130 --> 02:13:04,130
So is there any way, like say the bear's road with the crosswalks in the sidewalk got picked?

1604
02:13:04,510 --> 02:13:10,030
Would there be any way to like speed up the crosswalks so that we're not waiting eight years

1605
02:13:10,030 --> 02:13:11,110
for a crosswalk.

1606
02:13:12,570 --> 02:13:18,390
We can try and work with our Vietnam partners and partners at the state to see if there's

1607
02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:19,030
a possibility.

1608
02:13:19,930 --> 02:13:25,430
It's difficult, they would have to probably move project money from another project to put

1609
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:26,010
it on there.

1610
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:31,310
So, it's something we can always try, but we have not done that really frequently.

1611
02:13:32,270 --> 02:13:38,930
And historically, how many projects are selected out of the applications is it like one?

1612
02:13:40,690 --> 02:13:43,730
We have, in our Mark County, we've been up and down.

1613
02:13:44,170 --> 02:13:49,450
I think some of the other board members saw a presentation on this a few months back, but

1614
02:13:49,450 --> 02:13:56,330
the past couple rounds, our Mark County has received a single project in the past few prior to that.

1615
02:13:56,350 --> 02:14:01,510
I mean, we've had up to nine projects actually funded through SmartScale in a single year.

1616
02:14:02,190 --> 02:14:04,830
So we've had a lot of success in the past.

1617
02:14:04,910 --> 02:14:08,850
These past couple rounds not so much, but still getting at least one

1618
02:14:08,850 --> 02:14:14,010
every year yeah and then just one other comment it's also my understanding that not all

1619
02:14:14,010 --> 02:14:19,130
we dot districts work with municipalities in kind of the pre-application and so I just

1620
02:14:19,130 --> 02:14:23,850
think that's we're fortunate to be in a district that does work with us so that we have

1621
02:14:23,850 --> 02:14:29,430
a good idea of what projects are feasible and have a chance of being more successful so

1622
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:38,130
I do really appreciate that so Supervisor Malik Thank you yes this is actually really

1623
02:14:38,130 --> 02:14:44,150
news that I'm hearing. I see lots of dramatic improvements to what was talked about a couple

1624
02:14:44,150 --> 02:14:49,330
years ago in almost all of the projects, which is great and hopefully the powers that be in

1625
02:14:49,330 --> 02:14:59,970
Richmond will agree on the Shetty's path from Com5 North, the one on the county side.

1626
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,940
We'll go to stage coach, basically. And then there's a gap on the east side. Do I have that right

1627
02:15:05,940 --> 02:15:09,800
that, from the roundabout on the county property, it's easy to put one.

1628
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:19,220
We do not have a shared use path on the east side of the east side. There is, is part of that roundabout project. They

1629
02:15:19,220 --> 02:15:24,960
are making a sidewalk connection that goes to the bus stop in front of Cobb 5th, but that's where it ends,

1630
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:29,980
and then we don't have any other facilities. So people who wanted to go, the distance would hop over

1631
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:36,220
over to the other side and go along on the ABC project and on the west side.

1632
02:15:36,420 --> 02:15:38,980
And that right away is already set because of the approval

1633
02:15:38,980 --> 02:15:40,860
so both of those projects.

1634
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:42,600
So there's no gap there.

1635
02:15:42,940 --> 02:15:46,360
There is a gap apparently way at the end on the south north end

1636
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:48,600
to the yards or something by the houses there.

1637
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:54,060
So as I was maybe not clear enough to explain there,

1638
02:15:54,080 --> 02:15:59,660
there is no gap in the network but it does go from a shared use path.

1639
02:15:59,660 --> 02:16:05,620
to a side walk, and that side walk would connect all the way to our project.

1640
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:11,180
So that wasn't the area where there was a gap in funding, we were just scrounging around.

1641
02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:16,880
Yes, so there is, you can see right here in front of that single family home, it's out there.

1642
02:16:16,980 --> 02:16:23,660
There is a sidewalk that goes from here down to the entrance to the apartments, the first set of apartments there.

1643
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:30,160
And then from that point on we would have the shared use path all the way to the round about.

1644
02:16:30,740 --> 02:16:31,100
Okay.

1645
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:32,120
Makes very good sense.

1646
02:16:32,700 --> 02:16:37,840
I know over many years other communities have talked about mostly with railroad bridges.

1647
02:16:38,540 --> 02:16:42,660
Hanging the pedestrian side off the side of the bridge and it's been very successful.

1648
02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:45,720
I mean that has said oh hell no double hell no on things like that.

1649
02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:51,640
But it's a really good idea and expands the use without having to put all those expensive peers in.

1650
02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:54,060
So I'm sorry we are able to make progress here

1651
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:55,240
when they do another districts.

1652
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:05,120
And you mentioned the high cost of C for the IV.

1653
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:07,180
Is that from the right of way?

1654
02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:10,600
Two roundabouts, it's just the right way

1655
02:17:10,600 --> 02:17:12,720
at Bergwood basically is all your need.

1656
02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:15,560
It's the magnitude of the improvements.

1657
02:17:16,260 --> 02:17:18,200
So two roundabout projects,

1658
02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:23,820
plus the shared use path, plus median, is going to be a high cost.

1659
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:29,220
We don't yet have cost estimates from the feet out there working on those, but we know that

1660
02:17:29,220 --> 02:17:35,800
anything in the 30 to 40 million dollars range is kind of the upper range for being actually

1661
02:17:35,800 --> 02:17:36,440
competitive.

1662
02:17:37,540 --> 02:17:44,280
So we don't have cost figures yet, but we're trying to hedge our bets, so to speak, and

1663
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:46,040
get at least something funded there.

1664
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:53,340
Well, the one at the threshold on 242-55680 is $5 million, so hopefully the roundabouts you're

1665
02:17:53,340 --> 02:17:58,680
proposing, which are incredibly helpful, will not be triple that. That would be sad. Very good.

1666
02:17:58,680 --> 02:17:59,520
Thank you very much.

1667
02:18:02,260 --> 02:18:07,100
Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to have these move forward. I think for some of the newer folks,

1668
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:15,860
it's like this 115X, this is a value engineered down project on recent mission. What you're

1669
02:18:15,860 --> 02:18:22,860
with 1-18 is really that they were going down and they hit the ground and now they know

1670
02:18:22,860 --> 02:18:27,860
that the bounce to hell back up because none of those, I mean that's what Sean was saying,

1671
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:36,960
they're all half-ficked, at best, that's a direct quote from Mr. Nelson. So the idea is just making

1672
02:18:36,960 --> 02:18:42,580
costs less and money doesn't necessarily, well I guess they might score better, which isn't

1673
02:18:42,580 --> 02:18:45,440
of Oregon conclusion, does it mean it's the best project

1674
02:18:45,440 --> 02:18:47,280
for the improvement for the area?

1675
02:18:47,880 --> 02:18:49,400
So sometimes you have to stick to it,

1676
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:52,560
I think, and keep pushing on the project that you want.

1677
02:18:52,820 --> 02:18:56,500
Because I think that impacts your multi-modal usage here.

1678
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:59,120
But then the state change, who knows what happens now,

1679
02:18:59,220 --> 02:19:01,620
if we've got new members of the CTV, a new governor,

1680
02:19:02,620 --> 02:19:05,360
if the scoring, I mean, it's set for this round,

1681
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:06,700
but in two years, who knows?

1682
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:08,580
The scoring could get re-weighted and change

1683
02:19:08,580 --> 02:19:14,360
around again. And just don't know where you're going to go with that. Kevin, I'm going to pick

1684
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:19,420
on you. I did not give you a heads up about this, but you love feeling on questions like

1685
02:19:19,420 --> 02:19:26,960
that. Back in the fall, I'd inquired about our transportation priorities list. And I know that

1686
02:19:26,960 --> 02:19:32,940
at that time, you had mentioned about the last time that report of the whole list of priorities

1687
02:19:32,940 --> 02:19:38,960
was done, but it could be about three, two, three years ago, and that we were kind of on old

1688
02:19:38,960 --> 02:19:44,620
with some AC-44 work and things like that. Happy 8 doesn't impact what I think about these

1689
02:19:44,620 --> 02:19:50,940
smart-scale applications, but thinking ahead to not just two years from now, anytime we put

1690
02:19:50,940 --> 02:19:56,940
a list of smart-scale applications together, it means other projects weren't selected, and I'm

1691
02:19:56,940 --> 02:20:08,340
starting to lose sight because I'm working on an old transportation priorities list of what we need to be thinking about that's two four six years ahead of us.

1692
02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:17,620
So all I'm asking for is update on when whether it's a new process, new considered process, what have you might be coming back before the board.

1693
02:20:18,500 --> 02:20:21,360
We have picked that effort back up.

1694
02:20:21,360 --> 02:20:27,620
to make is actually going to leave that what we're doing right now is we are taking the

1695
02:20:27,620 --> 02:20:33,800
similar process to what we've used before priorization and we're going to update that

1696
02:20:34,620 --> 02:20:42,480
and do minor refinements and bring that back to the board. We expect in late spring of this year

1697
02:20:42,960 --> 02:20:50,800
so that we have a list to work off of and then we'll move from that point on we're going to look at

1698
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:57,920
potential multimodal transportation plan that could make broader updates to that process

1699
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:03,820
that would come back in the future. And this will all be part of the discussion when our

1700
02:21:03,820 --> 02:21:07,460
long range team comes back in about a month from now on.

1701
02:21:07,460 --> 02:21:11,040
I hope it is the next month. So you'll hear a little bit more about that, but it is on its way.

1702
02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:15,420
But the actual transportation list would be at a different point. It won't be next month.

1703
02:21:15,420 --> 02:21:23,280
Yeah, that's correct. And that next month is just letting you know what these different projects that we're working on on

1704
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:31,560
R and then one of those is the initial prioritization and that will become in back a few months after

1705
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:39,600
That because that really drives beyond smart scale then they could drive sidewalk projects that could drive I would just

1706
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:45,000
And because I have the opportunity to, as you're thinking about the new prioritization process,

1707
02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:52,320
thinking too about framing it in ways in terms of where they fall on a priority list

1708
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:58,480
of is this a project that really impacts where affordable housing is going up, where it could

1709
02:21:58,480 --> 02:22:03,440
further economic development, not just initiatives, but benefits.

1710
02:22:03,440 --> 02:22:10,800
So I think of how, when we did the incentive for Home Depot, we were able to acquire almost

1711
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:17,840
all the right away needed for the Hillsdale realignment, and that changes the likelihood

1712
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:22,640
because we just significantly reduced the project or the cost of that project.

1713
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:28,140
So that should, I think, alter where and sometimes it falls in a priority list versus just

1714
02:22:28,140 --> 02:22:31,860
going 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 because the weighting might even be different.

1715
02:22:31,860 --> 02:22:36,260
And I don't know that we missed, maybe we did that in the past, I never thought, thought about that.

1716
02:22:36,540 --> 02:22:43,980
But I'm just saying, when that time comes and that comes forward, have that in mind because I know that's been something that I've been thinking about.

1717
02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:46,420
Thank you. We'll do it. We'll appreciate the feedback.

1718
02:22:46,680 --> 02:22:50,620
Awesome. Thank you. Well done, Jessica. Thank you. Are there any other questions here?

1719
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:56,180
That's it. All right. We will then move to, where we at?

1720
02:22:56,180 --> 02:22:59,540
We're at number 8-8, which we pulled from the consent agenda.

1721
02:22:59,900 --> 02:23:05,000
So this is now SE-2025-39, the turkey knob, solar farm.

1722
02:23:05,860 --> 02:23:10,680
This was pulled from by supervisor Malik.

1723
02:23:14,020 --> 02:23:15,780
And it's going to look to step.

1724
02:23:15,880 --> 02:23:18,240
Do we want to start with the presentation on this one?

1725
02:23:18,440 --> 02:23:22,260
Or should I let supervisor Malik tee up or con concerns?

1726
02:23:22,880 --> 02:23:32,160
parts of our deputy director, I'm here with the correct mail, our manager of our review unit in planning.

1727
02:23:32,440 --> 02:23:38,300
Part just point those up. Sorry, you're pretty good. And the podium does adjust too.

1728
02:23:38,500 --> 02:23:41,500
So you can hit the little arrows and raise the podium up. How can I need it?

1729
02:23:41,500 --> 02:23:46,780
I guess the board's pleasure on whether we have a few slides that we have that we can do.

1730
02:23:46,780 --> 02:23:52,940
I know we were running a little bit behind we can address questions.

1731
02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:59,620
Do the presentation I'm going to go to Supervisor Malik because she pulled the item for

1732
02:23:59,620 --> 02:24:01,940
some framing and then we'll go from there.

1733
02:24:06,590 --> 02:24:06,990
Thank you.

1734
02:24:07,290 --> 02:24:09,310
Good afternoon Rebecca Ragsdale.

1735
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:16,370
Mr. Subovoto mentioned planning manager for the current development review team and representing

1736
02:24:16,370 --> 02:24:23,170
the review staff that have provided input for this item that included Mr. Low Packer, Mr.

1737
02:24:23,330 --> 02:24:32,950
Fritz, Mr. Clark. So I will try and be brief, give you a quick refresher on the solar

1738
02:24:32,950 --> 02:24:39,770
regulations that were adopted in July of 2025 and then narrow in and highlight some things

1739
02:24:39,770 --> 02:24:44,950
that we included in the staff report packet and wanted to clarify for you as you consider

1740
02:24:44,950 --> 02:24:55,690
this item. So this is a buy-right, this request is related to a buy-right solar facility, and

1741
02:24:55,690 --> 02:25:02,930
what we allow now buy-right in the real areas is a facility with a fenced area of 21 acres or less.

1742
02:25:03,350 --> 02:25:08,930
That fenced area must include the solar panels and any stormwater facilities.

1743
02:25:10,070 --> 02:25:18,710
The even by right projects that disturb more than 10 acres would need a special exception

1744
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:25,550
if they are in an area that has been identified as a forest block or has been identified

1745
02:25:25,550 --> 02:25:28,970
as a prime act soil area.

1746
02:25:30,810 --> 02:25:37,770
No solar energy facilities are allowed in forest blocks of a conservation value of 4.1 or greater

1747
02:25:37,770 --> 02:25:40,270
and we'll pull up that map in a second.

1748
02:25:40,590 --> 02:25:43,530
So this request is for two modifications,

1749
02:25:44,770 --> 02:25:47,650
for a facility that would be up to 21 acres,

1750
02:25:49,070 --> 02:25:51,330
but more than 10 acres,

1751
02:25:52,210 --> 02:25:53,290
unless the 21 acres,

1752
02:25:53,610 --> 02:25:56,510
and that is within an area that has been identified

1753
02:25:56,510 --> 02:25:58,090
as a forest block generally,

1754
02:25:58,590 --> 02:26:03,150
and then also by the USDA soil smaps,

1755
02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:11,270
Even with updated information and a very detailed field analysis and change in existing

1756
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:13,830
conditions, there's no administrative provision.

1757
02:26:15,210 --> 02:26:20,590
So these are through the special exception process and again it allows us to look at existing

1758
02:26:20,590 --> 02:26:25,630
site conditions and additional information like soils testing, for example.

1759
02:26:27,710 --> 02:26:32,830
So orienting you to the site, as we mentioned in the packet, is a 200 acre site that

1760
02:26:32,830 --> 02:26:39,790
in blue on the screen, and it is also Buck Island Road, which is about a mile south of its intersection

1761
02:26:39,790 --> 02:26:48,110
with Thomas Jefferson Parkway. This application was received in December of 2025 after the regulations

1762
02:26:48,110 --> 02:26:54,730
were adopted in July. The total partial acreage is 200 acres, and that's what's shown in blue.

1763
02:26:58,330 --> 02:27:04,310
Some features of the site will go over in a little bit more detail, but it is south of Buck Island Creek.

1764
02:27:06,350 --> 02:27:12,710
This is the concept plan for the request that was in your packet, and I know it has a lot of information on it.

1765
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:18,150
So I will walk you through that. Let me get my laser pointer here.

1766
02:27:18,910 --> 02:27:23,390
So, the focus of the 21 acres is the Fensteria.

1767
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:30,350
So, that is limited to 21 acres and is shown in the black outline that I'm sneaking around.

1768
02:27:30,810 --> 02:27:37,730
So, you can see just a illustrative representative representation of panels and stormwater areas.

1769
02:27:38,730 --> 02:27:45,530
This is a concept plan, so the solar facility would require a site plan level of detailed plan review which would follow.

1770
02:27:45,530 --> 02:27:58,730
So it is illustrating around outside of the Fensteria where required buffers would be located and then the rest of the 200-acre site remaining.

1771
02:27:59,750 --> 02:28:12,650
So it's a 21-acre request and then the project area is about 50 acres, so about 155 acres of the site, not impacted by solar facilities at all.

1772
02:28:13,710 --> 02:28:20,270
There are a number of regulations we codified in Section 5166 that were standard conditions

1773
02:28:20,270 --> 02:28:23,390
you were seeing, especially use permits related to these facilities.

1774
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:28,910
So, those other standards are what we included those regulations in your packet, but they include

1775
02:28:28,910 --> 02:28:35,510
things like height limitations, the buffer requirements that I mentioned, pollinator certification,

1776
02:28:36,390 --> 02:28:43,410
Fencing that is wildlife corridor friendly and it prohibits these facilities and streambuffers

1777
02:28:43,410 --> 02:28:46,510
for example and the forest blocks.

1778
02:28:46,890 --> 02:28:53,350
So we set, unfortunately, just this morning, calling your attention to some of the information

1779
02:28:53,350 --> 02:28:55,110
I'm going to show you on the slides.

1780
02:28:55,230 --> 02:29:01,650
The regulation is the standard in the regulation, as I mentioned, is referencing maps in

1781
02:29:01,650 --> 02:29:02,750
our comprehensive plan.

1782
02:29:02,750 --> 02:29:06,150
This particular site is highlighted in red on the map.

1783
02:29:06,570 --> 02:29:13,730
The one on the left is the ranks of the conservation value of forests in the compliance plan.

1784
02:29:13,890 --> 02:29:17,750
So this is one that did not score even two points of greater.

1785
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:21,330
I don't believe it had a score in terms of forest blocks.

1786
02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:25,000
But it was identified more generally as a forest block.

1787
02:29:26,250 --> 02:29:30,130
A small forest block in our mapping that's applicable based on the regulation.

1788
02:29:30,990 --> 02:29:46,750
There's information in the packet that the applicant provided that we can go into where the site had been cleared and trees removed for a by-right agricultural uses and they've identified what is remaining on the property.

1789
02:29:47,850 --> 02:29:53,730
So the special exception process is to consider allowing a portion of the facility.

1790
02:29:54,030 --> 02:29:59,970
Excuse me, a portion of the site adjacent to the power line, which runs through about the middle of the property for soil.

1791
02:30:02,360 --> 02:30:20,580
The laws analysis, again, we have what was, I think, characterized in the applicant's analysis packet as a desktop, sort of, look at the soils and potential for prime eggs, soils, and they have done the fieldwork and the testing of the soils.

1792
02:30:20,580 --> 02:30:28,620
And that information was included and did not find that all of the soils within that project

1793
02:30:28,620 --> 02:30:33,520
area met the definition of prime agricultural soils.

1794
02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:40,680
So we looked at the criteria and the factors per consideration and looked at the analysis

1795
02:30:40,680 --> 02:30:45,880
that the applicant did which we didn't have any concerns with as far as their methodology.

1796
02:30:46,460 --> 02:30:50,060
and we had recommended approval of this item.

1797
02:30:51,040 --> 02:30:53,680
So I will pause now for any questions.

1798
02:30:55,580 --> 02:30:56,300
Thank you.

1799
02:30:56,440 --> 02:30:57,320
And before we do questions,

1800
02:30:57,780 --> 02:30:59,440
Supervisor Malik, this was pulled at your request

1801
02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:01,480
if you want to set up any framing or piece.

1802
02:31:01,540 --> 02:31:02,940
I'll give you first go and then we'll leave you.

1803
02:31:02,940 --> 02:31:04,000
Thank you very much.

1804
02:31:05,540 --> 02:31:08,400
The yesterday was the first time that I received a packet

1805
02:31:08,400 --> 02:31:10,700
that I could open because the one that came originally

1806
02:31:10,700 --> 02:31:13,260
was 14 megabytes into the country that's not possible.

1807
02:31:13,260 --> 02:31:19,580
So last night at this morning, I've been trying to catch up on some of this information that was in the giant packet.

1808
02:31:20,260 --> 02:31:29,020
But what I did not see in anything that was provided by staff was an analysis of what the ordinance says were supposed to consider.

1809
02:31:29,560 --> 02:31:32,600
Just here's the information from the applicant, do what you're going to do.

1810
02:31:32,900 --> 02:31:35,720
That was my first takeaway over the weekend when I was trying to do my homework.

1811
02:31:36,220 --> 02:31:42,380
Secondly, there were no maps that showed topos and anything like that until late last night when I was able to get the big packet.

1812
02:31:42,380 --> 02:31:46,840
called that was able to re-squish it so that I was able to open it later, but it took

1813
02:31:46,840 --> 02:31:52,440
some time to get it squished enough for country broadband. So that was my original concern

1814
02:31:52,440 --> 02:32:00,540
was without enough information provided to be able to give a waiver. I was rebelling against that

1815
02:32:00,540 --> 02:32:06,920
and wanted to have some more information provided. So one of them is the, well, several things,

1816
02:32:07,640 --> 02:32:15,600
The prime soils, I went through diligently all the packet and there are two, but they were

1817
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:19,900
something or 51 and 91 or 95 and 55 or whatever the numbers are, there are two that

1818
02:32:19,900 --> 02:32:24,840
are not prime, that are down in the edges generally down in the soils, but a lot of the

1819
02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:33,460
area where the panels are planned is prime soil, according to the individually or the private

1820
02:32:33,460 --> 02:32:37,780
So I'll test it was done by NRCS, I'll 25 pages of it.

1821
02:32:38,440 --> 02:32:42,420
So it's not seems like something that we should just be

1822
02:32:42,420 --> 02:32:45,340
casting aside because there may be a little bit that

1823
02:32:45,340 --> 02:32:48,500
doesn't qualify, but that wasn't under the panels anyway.

1824
02:32:49,240 --> 02:32:52,140
So there seems to be some non-connection going on there.

1825
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:57,660
Secondly, the forest element is of concern.

1826
02:32:58,100 --> 02:33:01,660
Because what are the concerns when we talked about the ordinance

1827
02:33:01,660 --> 02:33:08,000
originally was that people would be cutting down forest and creating a moon scape and therefore

1828
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:12,900
making it easier to get something by right. Because it was very clear from public discussion

1829
02:33:12,900 --> 02:33:17,680
and board discussion during the adoption of the ordinance that we were not going to be interested

1830
02:33:17,680 --> 02:33:27,180
in harvesting and for purposes of a short term 20 years solar project for us that could be providing

1831
02:33:27,180 --> 02:33:31,440
all sorts of carbon and ecological benefits.

1832
02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:36,860
So thus, I am wondering since no information was provided

1833
02:33:36,860 --> 02:33:43,660
about the whole sequence of the 2021 harvest,

1834
02:33:44,660 --> 02:33:46,940
it was unclear whether it was hardwood or pine.

1835
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:53,260
And so that's another interesting gap in the information.

1836
02:33:53,820 --> 02:33:57,040
And so that is what I'd like to have more information about.

1837
02:33:59,720 --> 02:34:01,200
Do you have that information?

1838
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:08,420
I mean, either a forest is a forest, in which case, even if it's cut, it's still a forest.

1839
02:34:08,860 --> 02:34:12,980
So that doesn't, it shouldn't mean that it gets a waiver right away just because somebody cut it.

1840
02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:21,360
So, the fact that it was already cut is not the primary reason for the recommendation of approval.

1841
02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:27,760
it was the context, it's heavily mentioned in the materials and leads to the fact that the

1842
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:32,900
forest cover is no longer there, but it was also the overall context and the conservation

1843
02:34:32,900 --> 02:34:41,560
value of the forest blocks that was identified to begin with was part of it and part may

1844
02:34:41,560 --> 02:34:48,220
want to chime in, but in terms of the timeline of the property, I think that the packet does

1845
02:34:48,220 --> 02:34:54,220
mentioned that the trees were removed in most recently in 2021, beginning in 2021.

1846
02:34:55,420 --> 02:34:58,000
And then, you know, forestry is a bi-right activity.

1847
02:34:59,100 --> 02:35:02,160
These regulations weren't adopted until July of 2025.

1848
02:35:02,460 --> 02:35:10,280
This special exception process is to review these types of requests on a case-by-case basis.

1849
02:35:11,600 --> 02:35:17,100
Other properties with different characteristics, or a set of circumstances with higher conservation value.

1850
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:23,460
we may not lead to the same conclusions that we did with this one that we would find it at an acceptable

1851
02:35:23,460 --> 02:35:28,460
location for that limited solar facility.

1852
02:35:30,580 --> 02:35:37,320
But 914,000 square feet is in my mind not limited, but anyway that's just a different interpretation

1853
02:35:37,860 --> 02:35:41,780
of the size of things when you're talking about 21 acres of panel area.

1854
02:35:43,660 --> 02:35:48,300
Okay, we're the steps removed from the land when it was timbered.

1855
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:50,360
So I think included some photos in the packet.

1856
02:35:50,760 --> 02:35:53,700
I was not clear about, I didn't see any steps, but that doesn't.

1857
02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:57,420
I studied the pictures, but that's another reason that it's not enforced to any more

1858
02:35:57,420 --> 02:35:58,760
and I'd just like to get that information.

1859
02:36:03,750 --> 02:36:08,370
So I guess I will stop there and see what information is provided.

1860
02:36:10,090 --> 02:36:10,950
Why do I have one more?

1861
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:16,370
actually, sorry, it's Hatboro, 95, and Buggly, 51, where the only ones who were not prime

1862
02:36:16,370 --> 02:36:22,510
soils, everything else on the map was. So I just wanted to clarify that. I had done that

1863
02:36:22,510 --> 02:36:27,670
amount of homework. And so this is why it matters that when we write down that we're not

1864
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:33,470
putting stuff on prime soils, then we should be living up to the ordinances as we adopted.

1865
02:36:33,470 --> 02:36:34,590
And secondly,

1866
02:36:37,530 --> 02:36:45,010
the infiltration studies that were done, the site where compaction is tested,

1867
02:36:45,810 --> 02:36:50,850
really depends on where you're doing it, and some of the sites were on there were actually

1868
02:36:50,850 --> 02:36:57,370
where the landings were, and where the 80,000 pound lumber trucks are driving back and forth

1869
02:36:57,370 --> 02:36:57,910
every day.

1870
02:36:57,910 --> 02:37:02,210
So it seems very logical that that land would be totally

1871
02:37:03,050 --> 02:37:04,610
compacted and therefore not infiltrate,

1872
02:37:04,810 --> 02:37:08,110
but it also doesn't mean that the other 100 acres

1873
02:37:08,590 --> 02:37:09,690
are impacted similarly.

1874
02:37:10,390 --> 02:37:11,410
So these are my concerns.

1875
02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:14,450
And as I said, half in the dark because I didn't have

1876
02:37:14,450 --> 02:37:16,630
all the packet, but that's the way it goes.

1877
02:37:16,790 --> 02:37:17,490
Thank you very much.

1878
02:37:17,950 --> 02:37:18,850
Supervisor Prude.

1879
02:37:19,430 --> 02:37:21,230
Can we go back to this slide?

1880
02:37:21,330 --> 02:37:23,690
You had one up there that had in red,

1881
02:37:24,030 --> 02:37:25,750
the areas that were identified as prime.

1882
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:34,970
And I correct that this analysis of the prime soils is pre or post the applicants analysis

1883
02:37:34,970 --> 02:37:36,370
with the boreholes.

1884
02:37:36,390 --> 02:37:37,330
This is pre.

1885
02:37:37,690 --> 02:37:38,090
This is pre.

1886
02:37:38,870 --> 02:37:44,950
And the applicant suggests that their borehole analysis would indicate that the soils identified

1887
02:37:44,950 --> 02:37:51,990
here is prime, are not in fact prime and they're only being listed prime due to alluvial

1888
02:37:51,990 --> 02:37:55,230
estimations of the soil quality in and topo.

1889
02:37:55,570 --> 02:38:01,210
They provided that analysis of the, there is some remaining prime soils, but not the extent

1890
02:38:01,210 --> 02:38:01,990
that's shown on you.

1891
02:38:02,290 --> 02:38:08,590
And the, the applicants total footprint is less than 21 acres, and it would only trigger

1892
02:38:09,390 --> 02:38:14,730
if this exceptional and becomes relevant if there's more than 10 acres that are overlapping

1893
02:38:14,730 --> 02:38:15,810
as prone.

1894
02:38:15,970 --> 02:38:21,730
This is already an incomplete overlap, right, because they're, well, there's no map to

1895
02:38:21,730 --> 02:38:23,770
So where the overlaps are, yes.

1896
02:38:23,930 --> 02:38:26,930
There's no map showing them both on the same thing at once.

1897
02:38:26,930 --> 02:38:29,890
We do have a map of the notional footprint of it.

1898
02:38:29,970 --> 02:38:37,850
And we have a map of the challenged agricultural soil.

1899
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:42,110
The one other thing, I guess I would raise,

1900
02:38:42,590 --> 02:38:45,250
is that applicants kind of argument, we are in a special exception,

1901
02:38:45,530 --> 02:38:47,070
posture with this.

1902
02:38:47,470 --> 02:38:51,490
The applicants argument seems to be that neither

1903
02:38:51,490 --> 02:38:57,810
criteria for special exception, actually applies to them, that the soil is not a

1904
02:38:57,810 --> 02:39:04,290
vagracultural quality, despite what our estimates show, but they're like we have more

1905
02:39:04,290 --> 02:39:09,830
up-to-date information on soil quality, and additionally we have more up-to-date information

1906
02:39:10,810 --> 02:39:12,910
on non-disturb forest block.

1907
02:39:15,630 --> 02:39:19,470
This is almost going to be more of a comment, and I'm also looking

1908
02:39:19,470 --> 02:39:21,270
over to County Attorney on this.

1909
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:22,830
This is almost what a comment that a question.

1910
02:39:23,470 --> 02:39:29,410
But it seems like they are presenting to us this actually does not apply to us, but the

1911
02:39:29,410 --> 02:39:33,770
only way to adjudicate this is through a special exception because that's going to be cheaper

1912
02:39:33,770 --> 02:39:36,310
for everyone that's adjudicating it in the circuit court.

1913
02:39:37,170 --> 02:39:39,130
This is a supervisor for that's a great question.

1914
02:39:39,150 --> 02:39:42,990
This is a discussion that we had at the staff levels to what the applicable standard was.

1915
02:39:43,290 --> 02:39:48,890
And the ordinance does refer to the county's maps rather than to any additional information

1916
02:39:48,890 --> 02:39:51,270
that is provided by the applicant.

1917
02:39:51,810 --> 02:39:56,190
I know there's been some concerns expressed about the ability of an applicant to clear

1918
02:39:56,190 --> 02:40:00,670
cut a forest and then sort of move the goal post so that the standard no longer applies.

1919
02:40:01,250 --> 02:40:05,410
The standard in this case is the county's maps, which date to 2016.

1920
02:40:05,770 --> 02:40:10,670
So that does provide sort of a standard and fixes the goal post so that subsequent clear

1921
02:40:10,670 --> 02:40:15,290
cutting doesn't affect the county's analysis of what constitutes a forest block and what

1922
02:40:15,290 --> 02:40:17,270
constitutes prime form like farmland.

1923
02:40:17,270 --> 02:40:20,850
understood, and it also makes it pretty clear that we are definitely in a

1924
02:40:20,850 --> 02:40:27,990
abnormal special exception posture and the applicants arguments are just at there, I would say.

1925
02:40:28,470 --> 02:40:33,390
Persuasive arguments in favor of approval, but they're not saying that it does not apply to them.

1926
02:40:33,630 --> 02:40:37,490
That's correct, and the only way for those standards to change would be if the board by

1927
02:40:37,490 --> 02:40:41,250
an ordinance amendment wanted to identify a different standard as to what constitutes a

1928
02:40:41,250 --> 02:40:42,970
worst block or probably in foreign land.

1929
02:40:44,290 --> 02:40:45,070
I appreciate that point.

1930
02:40:45,150 --> 02:40:48,450
I think our previous policy-based discussions on why

1931
02:40:48,450 --> 02:40:51,090
to kind of fix a line in the sand are prudent,

1932
02:40:51,830 --> 02:40:54,470
but similarly, I actually do find the argument

1933
02:40:54,470 --> 02:40:56,870
that is presented by the haplicum through their engineering

1934
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:59,330
from also quite persuasive.

1935
02:40:59,370 --> 02:41:02,890
And I think there's a principle of equity at play.

1936
02:41:02,930 --> 02:41:05,670
Again, there was clear cutting before we actually adopted

1937
02:41:05,670 --> 02:41:06,330
the policy.

1938
02:41:06,750 --> 02:41:09,430
We adopted that policy with that clear goal line

1939
02:41:09,430 --> 02:41:13,990
to avoid, well, I think the board would consider bad faith applications of their buy right

1940
02:41:13,990 --> 02:41:18,430
use of forestry. I don't think that's what we see with this applicant. Unless we're saying

1941
02:41:18,430 --> 02:41:23,350
they were prognosticating on our likelihood of passing this ordinance and preemptive,

1942
02:41:23,590 --> 02:41:28,670
that gets into a meta-analysis of what the applicant is thinking that I don't think is helpful.

1943
02:41:30,230 --> 02:41:37,070
So, I hear the concerns. I think it is an interesting kind of test case of our

1944
02:41:37,070 --> 02:41:42,910
our new ordinance, but I also find that applicants or arguments for why this should be approved,

1945
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:46,950
to be, to be about as persuasive as they could be, get them the context.

1946
02:41:48,690 --> 02:41:51,430
Thank you. Supervisor LePista, currently?

1947
02:41:52,850 --> 02:41:55,210
Thank you. I don't have any questions at this time.

1948
02:41:55,750 --> 02:41:59,070
Supervisor Missle. Thanks just a couple of quick questions. One is

1949
02:42:00,010 --> 02:42:04,310
the sort of echo I think moving forward as we see more of these applications having an overlay

1950
02:42:04,310 --> 02:42:08,110
would be helpful to see because it gives you that connection.

1951
02:42:09,630 --> 02:42:12,670
Second thing, and I hope I didn't miss this in this conversation,

1952
02:42:13,390 --> 02:42:15,170
and it's tied to my third question.

1953
02:42:15,350 --> 02:42:16,590
So I'll just combine this.

1954
02:42:17,050 --> 02:42:19,910
You've made a modification or a recommendation to the

1955
02:42:20,490 --> 02:42:21,050
resolution.

1956
02:42:21,470 --> 02:42:26,230
It's struck language that relates to the additional property

1957
02:42:26,230 --> 02:42:29,930
beyond this current application, the larger piece.

1958
02:42:30,370 --> 02:42:32,870
Can you explain why you made that change?

1959
02:42:32,870 --> 02:42:43,790
And if there are any regulations or plans for that larger property outside of the fence or outside of this project.

1960
02:42:46,170 --> 02:42:54,990
Well, that was that change was in part based on some concerns from the applicant and also when we discussed it.

1961
02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:58,630
We focused on the general accord condition.

1962
02:42:58,630 --> 02:43:05,610
we felt like that covered the concerns about limiting the facility to the project

1963
02:43:05,610 --> 02:43:09,810
area. So we refined it so that the condition was more closely aligned with the

1964
02:43:09,810 --> 02:43:14,870
project area instead of the entire 200 acre parcel. There is a great deal of

1965
02:43:14,870 --> 02:43:22,790
stream buffer and existing vegetation in that eastern part of the property, which

1966
02:43:22,790 --> 02:43:27,230
is to the right there. So we didn't feel like it was necessary the way it was written

1967
02:43:27,230 --> 02:43:31,790
And it just said it would be allowed to go back to Forestry, which is the ordinance allows

1968
02:43:31,790 --> 02:43:32,450
that already.

1969
02:43:34,130 --> 02:43:35,730
So, that's the reason for that change.

1970
02:43:36,250 --> 02:43:36,690
That's helpful.

1971
02:43:36,990 --> 02:43:37,110
Thanks.

1972
02:43:37,470 --> 02:43:40,350
So, essentially, you just can revert back to Forestry.

1973
02:43:41,050 --> 02:43:41,310
Okay.

1974
02:43:41,650 --> 02:43:42,130
That's all.

1975
02:43:42,250 --> 02:43:42,690
Thank you.

1976
02:43:42,910 --> 02:43:43,630
Supervisor Duncan?

1977
02:43:44,470 --> 02:43:45,070
I have no questions.

1978
02:43:46,830 --> 02:43:47,830
That comes to me.

1979
02:43:47,830 --> 02:43:48,910
I don't have any questions.

1980
02:43:48,990 --> 02:43:49,770
Supervisor Malik.

1981
02:43:49,910 --> 02:43:50,730
I'll hit you on the order.

1982
02:43:51,330 --> 02:43:51,690
Thank you.

1983
02:43:51,750 --> 02:43:52,970
I do have one follow up.

1984
02:43:53,730 --> 02:43:58,850
There is some harvested buffer area within the fence line.

1985
02:43:59,530 --> 02:44:03,850
That's what I was understanding was just going to be left ignored.

1986
02:44:04,790 --> 02:44:09,630
And if that is, it's bear dirt now, and if it's not remediated, it's just going to grow up

1987
02:44:09,630 --> 02:44:11,010
in Atlantis and other invasives.

1988
02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:19,190
So is the staff intention to have the area within the fence that's already been clearcut,

1989
02:44:19,890 --> 02:44:23,210
mediated in some way, mediated in some way so that it just

1990
02:44:23,210 --> 02:44:26,950
not created a disaster. Yes. What will be required?

1991
02:44:27,450 --> 02:44:33,090
So it will be required. There are several sections of the ordinance that are applicable

1992
02:44:33,090 --> 02:44:35,750
WPO and the site plan section of the ordinance.

1993
02:44:38,310 --> 02:44:41,470
And we have, it won't be, it will

1994
02:44:41,470 --> 02:44:45,570
have to be replanted and restored and stabilized. It can't be left

1995
02:44:45,570 --> 02:44:52,650
the start. There's different planting standards. I'm not sure the exact era you're pointing to, but the applicable planting

1996
02:44:52,650 --> 02:44:59,910
standard would apply. So then the visible buffer is one thing, but the...

1997
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,060
The basic takeover protection is another thing. Bart has something to do.

1998
02:45:06,460 --> 02:45:13,880
Bart's were about a deputy director of committee development. Within that 21 acres, there will be,

1999
02:45:15,200 --> 02:45:21,340
and there are supplemental rights to apply. So we have things in the regulation already done

2000
02:45:21,340 --> 02:45:26,780
at the site plans days that will stabilize that, that, that, that, those poor, that portion

2001
02:45:26,780 --> 02:45:32,960
and that's disturbed and also part of the planting plan for what happens within the boundaries

2002
02:45:32,960 --> 02:45:40,380
of the solar facility. Along with that, there's another 22 acres of buffer around the Fensteria

2003
02:45:41,340 --> 02:45:48,480
that basically is forestry, but it's buffer. So that is also a protection. So the 21 acre solar

2004
02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:56,980
So, 22 acres of buffer, and then 155 acres of, we'll call it, regular agricultural property

2005
02:45:56,980 --> 02:46:00,380
beyond that, which equals about the 200.

2006
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:06,560
Well, all of that is very helpful, and as, I may be the only one who would find it helpful,

2007
02:46:06,740 --> 02:46:11,320
but when these come up next time, if there were a link that could say, these will take you

2008
02:46:11,320 --> 02:46:15,960
to the regulations that staff will be using, that would be a wonderful thing to put people's

2009
02:46:15,960 --> 02:46:20,780
minds it is when the public is finding out something and none of us can find anything on the

2010
02:46:20,780 --> 02:46:20,820
way.

2011
02:46:21,320 --> 02:46:23,140
Having that link would be really, really helpful.

2012
02:46:23,300 --> 02:46:23,780
Yes, ma'am.

2013
02:46:23,940 --> 02:46:27,600
There's some lessons learned for us here and we'll just appropriate.

2014
02:46:28,020 --> 02:46:28,300
Super.

2015
02:46:28,840 --> 02:46:29,080
Appreciate you.

2016
02:46:29,360 --> 02:46:30,820
I'm seeing additional questions.

2017
02:46:31,040 --> 02:46:31,480
Supervisor.

2018
02:46:31,780 --> 02:46:32,160
Proved.

2019
02:46:32,320 --> 02:46:33,660
Then, Missalol, I'll just follow the order.

2020
02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:36,460
Just one quick, saved round.

2021
02:46:37,700 --> 02:46:39,320
Am I, this is actually a two point.

2022
02:46:39,920 --> 02:46:41,160
So two quick, saved rounds.

2023
02:46:41,780 --> 02:46:45,880
Am I correct to remember that we have clustering provisions in our, um,

2024
02:46:45,880 --> 02:46:47,700
in our solar ordinance.

2025
02:46:48,480 --> 02:46:51,000
I'm a fairly remember discussion about this, right?

2026
02:46:51,180 --> 02:46:55,440
Like if you have within one mile multiple different,

2027
02:46:56,060 --> 02:46:58,260
but I don't remember how that exactly works.

2028
02:46:58,920 --> 02:46:58,940
Sure.

2029
02:46:59,360 --> 02:46:59,980
We do.

2030
02:47:00,300 --> 02:47:03,090
There's a table based on size of Fensteria

2031
02:47:04,660 --> 02:47:07,800
and then a corresponding separation.

2032
02:47:08,340 --> 02:47:11,920
So this is beyond any of those separation requirements.

2033
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:22,000
And kind of where you might guess on leading into this, I know that Buck Island Road has a recently approved larger community scale.

2034
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:28,060
I think it was community scale, not utility scale. It was near the cost of solar project.

2035
02:47:28,320 --> 02:47:33,760
And before that, one of our first solar projects in the county is right across the street from that.

2036
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:37,220
Can you help locate us in proximity to those?

2037
02:47:38,280 --> 02:47:47,160
I don't have Ravanna Solar on the map and this is the measurement is from Fensteria to Fensteria.

2038
02:47:48,220 --> 02:47:52,380
So going from Emily, Buck Island Solar is over here.

2039
02:47:52,680 --> 02:48:00,460
This was approved by Special Use Permit and then Ravanna Solar is off the map but there's a little bit of it.

2040
02:48:00,480 --> 02:48:01,040
I don't understand.

2041
02:48:02,400 --> 02:48:03,100
On the other side.

2042
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:06,340
on the same side as this side, the same side of the road as this side.

2043
02:48:06,700 --> 02:48:07,060
Thank you.

2044
02:48:07,400 --> 02:48:10,800
And those are past the Fensteria markers that would trigger any of our...

2045
02:48:10,800 --> 02:48:12,520
Yes, there's 2000 feet.

2046
02:48:12,880 --> 02:48:14,020
Okay. They're web, y'all not.

2047
02:48:14,440 --> 02:48:15,600
Supervisor Missle.

2048
02:48:16,080 --> 02:48:18,600
Thanks. Just briefly, could you go back to the site plan?

2049
02:48:24,380 --> 02:48:26,340
I think my question is answered.

2050
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:27,980
I'm good. All right.

2051
02:48:28,620 --> 02:48:30,440
No further questions or discussion?

2052
02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:34,120
This is in Scottsville. There would need to be a motion to...

2053
02:48:34,120 --> 02:48:39,580
And if I might suggest, I would point out to the supervisors that we provided the revised

2054
02:48:39,580 --> 02:48:44,120
resolution in the yellow, so to the extent that there's a consensus to adopt this,

2055
02:48:44,120 --> 02:48:49,320
the motion will be a motion to adopt the resolution to approve Turkey and Obsteller as

2056
02:48:49,320 --> 02:48:50,500
revised March 2.

2057
02:48:51,860 --> 02:48:53,520
Would it still be attachment F?

2058
02:48:53,820 --> 02:48:56,240
It would not be attachment F, this supersedes attachment F.

2059
02:48:56,740 --> 02:49:03,940
I moved to adopt the resolution to approve SC2025, tack 0039 as amended

2060
02:49:03,940 --> 02:49:07,240
in the staff report on the L.A. sheet.

2061
02:49:07,640 --> 02:49:08,460
Does there a second?

2062
02:49:08,540 --> 02:49:08,960
Second.

2063
02:49:09,580 --> 02:49:11,100
All right, the motion has been made in second

2064
02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:12,340
at any further discussion.

2065
02:49:13,760 --> 02:49:15,700
All right, if you would please call the roll.

2066
02:49:15,960 --> 02:49:17,060
Missile piece to occur at least.

2067
02:49:17,660 --> 02:49:18,340
Does mallet?

2068
02:49:19,320 --> 02:49:19,800
Mr. Missile?

2069
02:49:20,080 --> 02:49:20,280
Aye.

2070
02:49:21,020 --> 02:49:21,720
Mr. Prouit?

2071
02:49:22,100 --> 02:49:22,200
Aye.

2072
02:49:22,640 --> 02:49:23,200
Ms. Duncan?

2073
02:49:23,920 --> 02:49:24,220
Yes.

2074
02:49:24,780 --> 02:49:25,220
Mr. Galway.

2075
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:25,760
Yes.

2076
02:49:26,360 --> 02:49:27,860
All right, motion carries five to one.

2077
02:49:27,940 --> 02:49:28,940
Thank you.

2078
02:49:29,380 --> 02:49:31,980
And that we're at four o'clock.

2079
02:49:31,980 --> 02:49:36,960
Mr. County Executive, did you have reports from the county executive this evening?

2080
02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:37,800
No, sir.

2081
02:49:37,840 --> 02:49:41,620
I do not because of the fact that we'll be presenting the budget at six.

2082
02:49:42,020 --> 02:49:42,500
All right.

2083
02:49:42,560 --> 02:49:44,400
I just was going to pull that ahead if you did.

2084
02:49:44,980 --> 02:49:47,840
All right, Board, we're ready for our closed meeting motion.

2085
02:49:51,630 --> 02:49:59,150
I move that the Board of Supervisors can be in a closed meeting pursuant to section 2.2-3711A of the Code of Virginia.

2086
02:49:59,790 --> 02:50:03,950
Under Subsection 1 to discuss and consider appointments to various boards and commissions,

2087
02:50:03,950 --> 02:50:08,630
including without limitation, the Fifth and Aivan Community Advisory Committee, the Community

2088
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:13,230
Policy and Management Team, the Crozay Community Advisory Committee, the Equalization Board,

2089
02:50:13,430 --> 02:50:17,250
the Fire Prevention Code Appeals Board, the Local Board of Building Code Appeals, the Peemot

2090
02:50:17,250 --> 02:50:20,390
Virginia Community College Board, the Police Department, the Citizens Advisory Committee,

2091
02:50:20,590 --> 02:50:23,770
and the Village of Ravanna Community Advisory Committee. Second.

2092
02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:28,210
All right, motion has been made and seconded out of the Jackson of the Clerk,

2093
02:50:28,210 --> 02:50:34,130
please call the law. Missile piece, do I currently? Aye. Miss Malik? Yes. Mr. Missile? Aye. Mr.

2094
02:50:34,210 --> 02:50:40,430
Groot? Aye. Mr. Duncan? Yes. Mr. Galik? Yes. All right, board. We will meet in room.

2095
02:50:57,520 --> 02:50:57,820
All right, could

2096
02:50:57,820 --> 02:51:03,720
evening. I'm going to call the board back to order. We are coming out of closed meeting. Is there a motion

2097
02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:08,940
to certify the closed meeting? I move that the Board of Supervisors certified by a recorded vote

2098
02:51:08,940 --> 02:51:13,800
that to the best of each supervisor's knowledge. Only public business matters lawfully exempted

2099
02:51:13,800 --> 02:51:19,420
the open meeting requirements of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act and identified in the motion

2100
02:51:19,420 --> 02:51:24,140
authorizing the closed meeting, we're heard discussed or considered in the closed meeting.

2101
02:51:25,160 --> 02:51:25,400
All right.

2102
02:51:25,500 --> 02:51:29,480
The motion has been made and seconded if without objection at the clerk will please call the

2103
02:51:29,480 --> 02:51:29,920
roll.

2104
02:51:30,140 --> 02:51:30,840
Missile T. Sirker.

2105
02:51:31,180 --> 02:51:31,540
Aye.

2106
02:51:31,840 --> 02:51:32,440
Ms. Malick?

2107
02:51:32,680 --> 02:51:32,780
Yes.

2108
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:33,680
Mr. Missile?

2109
02:51:33,900 --> 02:51:34,360
Aye.

2110
02:51:35,940 --> 02:51:36,360
Mr. Duncan?

2111
02:51:36,640 --> 02:51:36,960
Yes.

2112
02:51:37,220 --> 02:51:37,740
Mr. Galway.

2113
02:51:37,900 --> 02:51:38,280
Yes.

2114
02:51:39,500 --> 02:51:42,180
And thank you board and motions coming out of closed meeting.

2115
02:51:42,860 --> 02:51:43,100
Yes, sir.

2116
02:51:43,100 --> 02:51:47,240
I am pleased to make a motion to appoint the following to various boards and commissions.

2117
02:51:48,120 --> 02:51:55,400
5th in Avon Street, Erin Leebac, Crozais CAC, Nathan Alderman, Ewa Har, and Erin

2118
02:51:55,400 --> 02:52:02,240
Hullahan, Equalization Board, David Mitchell, and James Notton, PBCC Board, Diantha McKeel,

2119
02:52:02,820 --> 02:52:07,100
Police Department Citizen's Advisory Committee, Bonnie Brewer, Denny King, and Donna

2120
02:52:07,100 --> 02:52:13,160
Vice, Village of RIVANI Community Advisory Committee, Edward Doug Earl.

2121
02:52:13,420 --> 02:52:13,900
Second.

2122
02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:14,560
All right.

2123
02:52:14,680 --> 02:52:18,280
The motion has been made and seconded without objection if the clerk will please

2124
02:52:18,280 --> 02:52:19,120
call the roll.

2125
02:52:19,400 --> 02:52:20,280
Miss, look, he's so currently.

2126
02:52:21,000 --> 02:52:21,640
Miss Mallett?

2127
02:52:22,260 --> 02:52:22,760
Mr. Missle?

2128
02:52:23,600 --> 02:52:23,900
Aye.

2129
02:52:23,960 --> 02:52:26,480
I do have one edition, one correction to that.

2130
02:52:26,560 --> 02:52:27,800
I left off three names.

2131
02:52:28,600 --> 02:52:29,500
Go ahead with the boat.

2132
02:52:29,860 --> 02:52:31,180
And then we'll do a new motion.

2133
02:52:32,300 --> 02:52:32,720
Mr. Proy?

2134
02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:34,540
Miss Duncan?

2135
02:52:35,080 --> 02:52:35,240
Yes.

2136
02:52:35,540 --> 02:52:35,960
Mr. Galway.

2137
02:52:36,120 --> 02:52:36,500
Yes.

2138
02:52:36,500 --> 02:52:37,820
and go ahead with the other three.

2139
02:52:38,060 --> 02:52:39,280
Thank you. I'd like to amend my motion

2140
02:52:39,280 --> 02:52:41,660
at the Village of Ravana Community Advisory Committee

2141
02:52:41,660 --> 02:52:43,180
in addition to Edward Doug Earl.

2142
02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:46,000
I'd like to add Howard Hottinger, Renee King,

2143
02:52:46,160 --> 02:52:47,620
and Richard Randolph.

2144
02:52:48,540 --> 02:52:49,280
All right, there is second.

2145
02:52:49,580 --> 02:52:49,960
Second?

2146
02:52:50,400 --> 02:52:52,440
All right, if that objection of the clerk will please

2147
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:53,260
call the roll.

2148
02:52:53,480 --> 02:52:55,680
Ms. Lupy, so currently, I, Ms. Mallick?

2149
02:52:56,060 --> 02:52:56,760
Yes, Mr. Missile?

2150
02:52:57,140 --> 02:52:58,400
I, Mr. Pruitt?

2151
02:52:58,780 --> 02:52:59,700
I, Mr. Duncan?

2152
02:52:59,900 --> 02:53:00,980
Yes, Mr. Gallaway.

2153
02:53:01,180 --> 02:53:01,560
Yes.

2154
02:53:02,500 --> 02:53:03,420
All right, thank you, board.

2155
02:53:03,420 --> 02:53:16,480
And earlier today, we moved item number 14 from the county executive, which did not include a report earlier to the agenda, but that will take us right to item 15.

2156
02:53:17,060 --> 02:53:22,040
This is public comment on matters previously considered or currently pending before the board.

2157
02:53:22,700 --> 02:53:27,960
And we do have signups this evening. The Vice Chair will go through our rules.

2158
02:53:28,700 --> 02:53:29,660
Thank you, Chair.

2159
02:53:30,300 --> 02:53:34,100
During the time set aside for public comment on matters previously considered or currently

2160
02:53:34,100 --> 02:53:38,380
pending before the board, other than scheduled public hearings, individuals may address

2161
02:53:38,380 --> 02:53:42,180
the board of supervisors concerning matters previously considered by the board or matters

2162
02:53:42,180 --> 02:53:47,160
that are pending before the board, other than items on the listed on the agenda for public

2163
02:53:47,160 --> 02:53:47,520
hearing.

2164
02:53:47,780 --> 02:53:51,920
Individuals are allowed one opportunity of up to three minutes to speak at each board meeting.

2165
02:53:52,560 --> 02:53:56,240
The sign-up sheet is managed by the clerk's office up to ten persons may speak during

2166
02:53:56,240 --> 02:54:00,940
matters in the public session. Timekeeping is conducted through a timer and light system at the podium.

2167
02:54:01,200 --> 02:54:04,640
The green light will go on when you're speaking. When you begin speaking, it begins

2168
02:54:04,640 --> 02:54:09,160
your a lot of time. The yellow light indicates you have one minute to finish speaking. The red light

2169
02:54:09,160 --> 02:54:13,820
indicates your time is expired and you will be asked to end your comments. In order to give all

2170
02:54:13,820 --> 02:54:17,640
speakers equal treatment and courtesy the board requests that speakers adhere to the following

2171
02:54:17,640 --> 02:54:21,980
guidelines. When addressing the boards, state your name and if you live in Albuquerque County or

2172
02:54:21,980 --> 02:54:25,720
I just serial district, address comments directly to the board as a whole.

2173
02:54:25,940 --> 02:54:28,980
Any written statements or other supporting material may be given to the clerk.

2174
02:54:29,420 --> 02:54:33,660
If representing a group or organization, you may ask others, present, to raise their

2175
02:54:33,660 --> 02:54:34,460
hands and recognition.

2176
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:37,940
Speakers may not share any unused time with another speaker.

2177
02:54:38,300 --> 02:54:39,840
Back and forth debate is not permitted.

2178
02:54:40,280 --> 02:54:42,380
Do not speak from your seat or out of turn.

2179
02:54:42,780 --> 02:54:47,240
All comments are live streamed, recorded and published on the Outmobile County website and

2180
02:54:47,240 --> 02:54:51,660
just as a reminder, please introduce yourself and please speak into the microphone.

2181
02:54:51,660 --> 02:54:53,740
Thank you very much.

2182
02:54:54,000 --> 02:54:55,560
So, I'll begin with Susan McColley.

2183
02:55:06,950 --> 02:55:10,770
I'm Susan McColley, and I'm a resident of the Samuel Miller District.

2184
02:55:12,210 --> 02:55:18,310
When I was a kid, and our family went anywhere crowded or unfamiliar, we always made a plan.

2185
02:55:19,270 --> 02:55:20,730
This was before cell phones.

2186
02:55:21,070 --> 02:55:24,970
The only tool we had was that my dad was tall and easy to spot in the crowd.

2187
02:55:25,810 --> 02:55:31,270
So, whenever we approached a concert or a subway station or a country fair,

2188
02:55:31,270 --> 02:55:43,850
We decided, if anyone gets lost or we get separated, we need back here at the venue entrance or the next subway station or at the fried dough stand, you get the idea.

2189
02:55:45,150 --> 02:55:49,330
I don't think we ever had to use the plan, but it helped us to have one.

2190
02:55:49,990 --> 02:55:58,030
We knew we'd be okay if something frightening happened. The plan let us relax and trust each other and we knew what we would do.

2191
02:55:59,210 --> 02:56:04,350
Now, if my parents had had a plan but they didn't share it with all of us, it wouldn't have

2192
02:56:04,350 --> 02:56:05,490
helped us at all.

2193
02:56:06,030 --> 02:56:10,190
The only way this works is when the plan is made and then clearly communicated.

2194
02:56:11,570 --> 02:56:13,270
You see, where I'm going, don't you?

2195
02:56:14,370 --> 02:56:21,010
I'm here again to urge you to make a clear statement and establish policies regarding how

2196
02:56:21,010 --> 02:56:26,330
the county will respond when federal immigration agents arrive in this community.

2197
02:56:26,330 --> 02:56:33,930
Just like preparing for last month's snowstorm or making plans for the lid-combs concert in April,

2198
02:56:34,670 --> 02:56:42,580
getting clear on how the county will handle what could happen in an ice action simply makes sense.

2199
02:56:43,290 --> 02:56:45,570
It's not hypothetical, it's practical.

2200
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And communicating about those plans allows the community to understand what the county can and cannot do for them.

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The resolution that the city passed regarding immigration enforcement actions and their

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letter to the Virginia Congressional delegation and statewide leaders is a good model.

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Like them, we ask you to make commitments to civil rights, do process and community trust

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and to make clear how you will respond in the case of a frightening incident with federal agents.

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What we ask isn't radical.

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What we ask is common sense.

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What we ask is for you to make your position clear and to communicate that position to reassure our community facing rampant fear.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Alicia, may I have?

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Good evening.

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My name is Alicia Lennahan.

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I live in the Scottsville district.

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I've been read all the remarks we've delivered over the last 10 months.

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If we talk about Kamar, a breakout Garcia, and the other egregious mistakes made by ICE early on,

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now we watch them abducting detained infants and toddlers and little boys in blue bunny hats.

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We've learned that the cruelty is the point.

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We've talked about how ICE, bolstered by the National Guard, escalated their tactics in LA, Chicago, and Portland.

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And Minneapolis taught us that this administration is willing to kill people.

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All along, we've asked you to take a principal stand, one that reflects our commitment

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to the constitution, to the rule of law, and common decency, you remain silent.

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We submitted a thoughtful, measured resolution articulating our values as a community and

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intended to restrain the lawless actions routinely used by ICE, you remain silent.

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02:58:47,080 --> 02:58:53,360
The City Pastor Resolution articulating community values that also reflects legislation

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working its way through the general assembly that will restrain nice, you remain silent.

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When asked by Ceeber Weekly how or if the county government is preparing to protect us from

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ice, you remain the silent, except for this tertus statement that county cannot disclose

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public safety tactics to which I call rubbish.

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We have a 10-day meetings for 10 months.

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We know that the county executive works tirelessly to ensure every department has the resources

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it needs to provide an effective community response.

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The winter storm was a case in point.

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You received a report about preparations before the storm and after action report when it was

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02:59:39,180 --> 02:59:45,200
over the Rose Retreated Schools and other activities were canceled, we knew who to call in an

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02:59:45,200 --> 02:59:51,540
emergency. All the relevant information was available to the public. The threat posed

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by this administration continues to be a moving target. Actual responses will depend

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02:59:56,960 --> 02:59:59,960
non-facts on the ground. Nothing prevents

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Thank you from passing a resolution. Nothing prevents you from reassuring the public with formal statement, as well as direct messages to those who are most likely to be affected by a federal action, whether it's immigration, protests, or election interference.

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You must be. We must all be prepared. Thank you. Thank you.

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Bruce Eads?

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Good evening. My name is Jim Carpenter. I'm

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didn't a Jack Jewel District and I'm here with the dog with the Vietnam Memorial and

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I have three minutes and Bruce will follow up with his three minutes if that's

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okay. The dog with the Vietnam Memorial will hold a 60th

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pre-dedication ceremony on Friday, April 17th, 11 a.m. on the 56th ball on

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We appreciate many of y'all will be saving the date wars and show them up.

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The past year, a foundation completed a $250,000 more brick plaza in the UVA Wall face

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to addition to the memorial.

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Now, our focus is to turn the ADA access to their beloved field that heals in the spring

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In the 2019 Airfare City Council approved setting up a working group of veterans, organizations

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along with city staff to meet six times.

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That spring and summer determined the best solution to where the gaining ADA access to

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the memorial and the park.

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For our citizens, we all agree that best solution was to construct a pedestrian bridge or

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also John Warner Parkway with a Jason, a sensible parking lot on the low on the east side.

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We presented a finance to a 2.5 million dollar budget and the city managers in November

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of that year, there was well received by the, what the idea is, and it looked like

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on 2020, it was going to be a group session, and they would have go ahead and prove that

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I have a COVID hit.

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Fast forward to December 2022, the City Council revisited our proposal and passed a resolution

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in Dorsan Disult Solution that we could receive.

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The Virginia DHR grant for $600,000 to be used on the project only.

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we received this one, the May 2023, and immediately engaged race in engineering, the little

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way Virginia to design the project, one year later, race in engineering, complete the

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required testing and design for changing two bids on the project, and that means it even

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up was at $2.5 million.

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I do see some from the White House district, I'm living in Venezuela, so I grew up on

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chair cabinet, but anyway, I still have Charleston, obviously.

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03:03:22,720 --> 03:03:28,840
Last, we went to work, and then in November of 2025, submitted to City Engineer Glennon

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Duncan, for Sight Review, where they are at this time.

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Of course, we not must approve the peer-based design since it is of all bridges in the area registered, and there is a sign to apply of the other privileges in the area, so we don't think that's going to be a problem.

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We need to make sure that we need to make sure the city said that you're telling that you're right away so far

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and we get to extend the bridge 10 feet to address that problem.

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So it's now 110 feet long to give us all that right away.

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Then maybe other questions from city staff but we let Tau Austin replace the engineering on it.

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03:04:12,740 --> 03:04:20,360
our design contractor. Of course, the good news is the Council has approved the resolution

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that they will accept the ADA access project into their parks and trail system. If it is

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constructed according to the city engineers plant pool, and they already had the project

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in their CDIP at $100,000, $144, actually. We want to thank the Admiral County for putting it

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there at 127, a county budget, with an inclusive donation of 250,000. Our first charge

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here, of course, was Jam Blossom Jr. from Murliesville, and he was first of many, but

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that we lost in Vietnam.

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To a final long road since the City Council, first passed the

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James D. Schursh, where you may remember, he worked for the city for many years, and I,

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where I'm the Bible fastwood gather, and we began working with the city on the post-mediclicalkway

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interchange, and how would it affect the historic bulk within our memorial, young and sister that not

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being moved as it is the oldest and first public civic, Vietnam memorial in the nation.

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So, for the last access through the McIntyre Golf Course parking lot, due to the

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young change construction, we acquired that a new ADA access be found.

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We all know we found a solution, the city of Green Street Found a solution, and we just need

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to, and it was a full-baceted council on January, the resolution of this year.

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We now, now we've got, for instance, need to find it and build it.

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Thank you.

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We have one more name on this list, although there were several who signed up for an item related

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03:06:16,680 --> 03:06:20,280
to a later public hearing, so they've been moved to the public hearing.

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So if you don't hear your name called, it has been moved to the public hearing list.

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Our next speaker is Tom Alivea.

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I'm trying to live here from the Samuel Millidistrict.

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Today, many of the earth's natural systems are unraveling

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these disruptions stem from fast, recent,

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increase in human numbers in the rise of industrial societies.

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Now, climate change, biodiversity, diversity losses,

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and other crises are worsening and reinforcing each other.

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If we do not begin commensurate, corrective actions quickly,

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Today's young people and our future generations will live on a damaged and far less supportive planet.

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Given its environmentalist history, you might think albumol County may be a leader in containing environmental crises.

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Not now, albumol County has dropped its former cautious approach to growth and is busy playing developer,

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amount of futures in the 29 North innovation corridor with seemingly skewed

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03:07:40,530 --> 03:07:46,810
examination of sure the extensive environmental costs. The planning division in community

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03:07:46,810 --> 03:07:52,030
development appears to have lost much of its previous commitment to environmental protection.

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For example, Plano staff proposed cutting the rural areas chopped off from the recent

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comprehensive plan. They also proposed capping open space easements outside of comprehensive

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The plan of staff proposed a data-central ordinance, without evaluating likely large effects

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on local greenhouse gas emissions.

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I recently sent you a proposal for significant restructuring of county planning processes.

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The restructuring is designed to enable the more complete response to worsening environmental

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crises.

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A key provision calls for the reestablishment of the new department focused on rural areas

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planning.

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natural resource conservation and climate action, it would exist outside of community development,

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this new department would offer expert policy recommendations directly to the plan commission

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Board of Supervisors and work on a path for our community toward a more sustainable state.

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He called us, Milton Friedman, once wrote,

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only a crisis actually received produces real change.

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When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken

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depend on the ideas that are lying around.

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With more and bigger ecological crises hit it our way,

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you might feel that useful to keep this proposal somewhere lying around.

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Thanks for your consideration.

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Thank you.

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That concludes our list.

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All right.

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We will close matters from the public.

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Thank you for all those who came out to speak this evening.

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And we will move to the next item on the evening's agenda.

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Number 15, which is our public hearing on the county executives fiscal year 2027 recommended budget.

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Mr. Richardson, good evening.

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Good evening Mr. Chair. Members of the Board. Thank you so much for the opportunity to

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be here this evening. And I will point out to the members of the public and the community

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that may be listening tonight. This will be the second presentation that we have done

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to the Board of Supervisors on the fiscal year 27 recommended budget. The full presentation

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from last Wednesday afternoon is posted on the county's website and can be found if someone

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listening this evening would like to go back and look at the full presentation.

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This evening's focus is on, of course, the FY27 investments in our five year CIP, and I

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will start with some comments that lead in to that, but this will be a bit of an abbreviated

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version from what we went through last evening, and this chair, I do have members of the executive

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team from the Finance Department, our budget team, many of those members are here tonight,

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And our goal, of course, is that after we turn over to you, you conduct a public hearing

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if there are any questions to not, from board members or anything that you would like to

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03:10:52,990 --> 03:10:54,750
clarify before we move into the budget.

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Work sessions next week, we certainly want to do that this evening for the board.

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So, board again.

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Thank you for the opportunity to be here this evening.

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My name is Jeff Richardson.

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I'm the county executive and I would always start by thanking our staff for helping to get

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to this point in the process. We have a lot of work left ahead of us, but this evening I'm

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going to go through and hit the framework of what's included in the fiscal year 27 budget.

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I'm going to talk with just a couple of slides starting out before we get into the details,

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and I want to talk about the board commitment, the staff commitment to maintaining a set of financial

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policies, and that we adhere to these policies every year as we work through the budget process,

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which really starts in earnest in the fall, takes us through December, and then we get into the nuts

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and bolts of the budget when we present it, followed by a number of work sessions, adhering

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to the policies allows us to maintain a triple triple-layed bond rating, and that allows us

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to be good stewards of taxpayer funds. Ultimately, this means that we save money and that we can

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do more with the money that we have over time. Being a county that has a triple triple-layed

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We're one of 54 counties out of 3,000 counties in the United States and that that is of October 25.

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13 of the 54 counties are in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

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So Virginia is known from a fiscal standpoint as a good government state and we're proud to be a part of that group.

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In our community, the University of Virginia is also triple triple way.

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one of four public universities in the United States, as well as our partner city, the city of Charlotte'sville, they also carry this rate.

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So, board, I've just started by talking about that framework, and this is something that's been alive and willing

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out more county for decades, and I'm certainly proud to be a part of an organization that is built on sound financial policies.

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So, we would also our commitment to performance improvement and cost savings is we talk a little bit about what our

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organizational values include another principle of our county as a culture of continuous improvement and placing

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structure in change with our project management work that we do to advance programs within the county to ensure

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return on investment of our people, process and systems. Process and systems modernization, this

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has been very supportive over the last few years in our county's investing in technology

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to enhance government efficiency, to enhance customer service, modernizing many of our processes,

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our systems. This would include, let me give you a couple of examples, our human resources information

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system, which now we are much more apt as streamlining integrating HR processes for our employees

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into technology and software while removing the use of outdated technology.

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It also includes our financial systems, which is known as the PNL.

2383
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I'm sorry, which is known as FMS, financial management systems,

2384
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which is improved in improving financial systems integration.

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And this helps us with our vendors on procurement, accounting, and budgeting.

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And finally, EPNL, our enterprise performance and learning,

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which is in our community development department.

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This is another example of significant technology investment.

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We're reading the process of working through

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screen-learning processes and modernizing platforms

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not just for our staff but for our customers.

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We're just also involved staffing and efficiency studies.

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We continue to conduct staffing studies to review current operations

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and administration, the interrelationship between departments,

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internal and external.

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In our county, as well, as providing insights, as to how it compares to industry standards, similar

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localities, and thus practices. So born you might ask when we do this work. What's the

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result of the work? The result is in the fall right box, where we are able to reduce positions

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year over year for the last two years. We've reduced positions, and this is outside of public

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safety, we have less positions than we had two years ago, and that's with a mounting increase

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for calls for service across county government, and so this investment and efficiency,

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this investment and performance improvement, us measuring what we do, and then reporting

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back to the board in our annual report. This all is meant to be able really to do more with

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All right, so let's talk a little bit more about the recommended budget.

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One of those common questions that we get from the community and the board gets this and certainly the staff does.

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Where does the money go?

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This is a graph that was put together by our community relations staff trying to show on a dollar,

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brought into the county where does the money go and this doesn't trace every single penny but we're looking for

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Where that the big the big box go over half the money 52% of all the money that comes into album mark county for public services is

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Your mark for education this includes the local transfer for for the school's operating budget as well as the plan projects and our

2411
03:16:38,720 --> 03:16:42,200
IP and also the service on our existing debt.

2412
03:16:42,620 --> 03:16:44,920
The next largest category is Public Safety.

2413
03:16:45,000 --> 03:16:47,940
Public Safety receives 14 cents of every dollar.

2414
03:16:48,400 --> 03:16:53,180
This includes funding for our police department, our fire, and the EMS services as well as

2415
03:16:53,180 --> 03:16:55,280
the support for our volunteer fire departments.

2416
03:16:55,880 --> 03:17:07,580
In fiscal year 27, community development will include CIP investments from the build-out of

2417
03:17:07,580 --> 03:17:14,380
11 cents. With in-county operations we're holding at 10 cents and you find you will find

2418
03:17:14,380 --> 03:17:19,580
counting operations that are covered but it also includes investments such as the climate

2419
03:17:19,580 --> 03:17:26,380
action fund and finally health and welfare and the growth of affordable housing fund is at 8 cents

2420
03:17:27,220 --> 03:17:27,740
respectfully.

2421
03:17:30,300 --> 03:17:32,460
So board, uh, to cut,

2422
03:17:34,640 --> 03:17:35,200
excuse me,

2423
03:17:43,290 --> 03:17:44,430
I got choked, I'm sorry,

2424
03:17:57,970 --> 03:17:58,390
but then low

2425
03:17:58,390 --> 03:18:03,290
appropriate for me to get choked last year when I was recommending a first-hand

2426
03:18:03,290 --> 03:18:04,390
tax rate increase.

2427
03:18:20,250 --> 03:18:24,810
Board, I apologize. This budget is balanced on the real estate tax rate

2428
03:18:24,810 --> 03:18:32,790
of $89, but it forced it to pull $100 in the sense value. That is our current tax rate for

2429
03:18:32,790 --> 03:18:38,470
more county. And if you look at the slide, there are no recommended changes to the tax rates

2430
03:18:38,470 --> 03:18:42,330
for what was adopted in fiscal year 26.

2431
03:18:53,370 --> 03:18:56,890
I will take a minute and I will look at fiscal year 27

2432
03:18:56,890 --> 03:19:03,090
obligations. You're going to hear us talk a lot about obligations in this budget.

2433
03:19:03,610 --> 03:19:10,270
Obligations really mean what we look at over year over year that the commitment we make to do

2434
03:19:10,270 --> 03:19:16,130
certain things in our budget and for our community and it has a multi-year effect on us paying

2435
03:19:16,130 --> 03:19:18,730
for what these obligations are.

2436
03:19:18,910 --> 03:19:25,250
Examples of what I'm talking about are operating costs and next year's budget for

2437
03:19:25,250 --> 03:19:27,070
ten-and-schools.

2438
03:19:27,710 --> 03:19:34,030
We also have a commitment as we have pulled down federal dollars from FEMA to pay four or five

2439
03:19:34,030 --> 03:19:47,510
with in our firing rescue department, those federal dollars have three year life cycles, and after three years it's expected that federal funding as it goes away, that local government must pick that up.

2440
03:19:48,970 --> 03:19:53,950
We also have key partner agency agreements and those agreements are growing.

2441
03:19:59,810 --> 03:20:02,590
We have a commitment to market base compensation.

2442
03:20:03,430 --> 03:20:11,550
We also have a changing federal funding landscape revenue sharing your brain with the city and increasing that service all of that

2443
03:20:11,550 --> 03:20:12,970
Our examples of obligations

2444
03:20:17,030 --> 03:20:23,480
Excuse me one more second. Jeff, do you want to take a few minutes so we can we can re-configure?

2445
03:20:23,960 --> 03:20:30,090
I don't want you to struggle through this we can stop for a few minutes. Yeah, I just apologize to the board until the year will pull it

2446
03:20:30,680 --> 03:20:32,320
I've not been coughing today

2447
03:20:32,820 --> 03:20:35,960
And I just got, I just started coughing, I apologize.

2448
03:20:37,680 --> 03:20:41,840
I say what, why don't we take five minutes and we'll just pick right back up and it'll

2449
03:20:41,840 --> 03:20:45,320
give you a second because the under stress, I don't know how anybody regains there.

2450
03:20:46,680 --> 03:20:49,820
So we'll take, if it's, I don't think anybody on board would object.

2451
03:21:00,850 --> 03:21:03,330
All right, board, I'm going to call us back to Order, Mr. Richardson.

2452
03:21:03,530 --> 03:21:07,070
You are welcome to continue when you are ready to do so.

2453
03:21:07,370 --> 03:21:11,010
Mr. Chair, thank you very much and members of the board up, I'm very sorry.

2454
03:21:11,010 --> 03:21:12,770
did not mean to get choked up.

2455
03:21:12,930 --> 03:21:17,270
I'm sorry, I kind of stumbled through those last three slides, getting to where we are from

2456
03:21:17,270 --> 03:21:20,450
the rumors of the public that are going to be receiving our apologize for the delay and

2457
03:21:20,450 --> 03:21:22,250
for folks at home as well.

2458
03:21:22,950 --> 03:21:26,370
So, let's talk just a minute about multi-year tactics, the funding bridge,

2459
03:21:28,430 --> 03:21:29,330
the county executive

2460
03:21:29,330 --> 03:21:35,850
proposed budget for fiscal year 27, it includes revenue from the county's budget stabilization

2461
03:21:35,850 --> 03:21:36,470
reserve.

2462
03:21:36,470 --> 03:21:52,530
We have a 2% budget stabilization reserve that we have had in effect now for about 4 years and the budget this year's budget recommends using one quarter of the 2% reserve half of a percent both in fiscal year 27 and again in fiscal year 28.

2463
03:21:53,170 --> 03:22:03,930
This will leave us with an additional 1% that will remain in the reserve to provide flexibility should we encounter unexpected financial needs over the next 12 to 24 months.

2464
03:22:03,930 --> 03:22:16,090
In addition, in this budget, I am recommending that we transfer to the CIP, 6.4 million dollars that would be in the CIP for a determined project in the future.

2465
03:22:16,290 --> 03:22:22,230
I would recommend to this board that we put this out in your five, and that over the course of the next couple of years,

2466
03:22:22,410 --> 03:22:24,450
let's continue to keep an eye on our economy.

2467
03:22:24,950 --> 03:22:31,190
As Dr. Bailey pointed out last fall, that we've got a partly cloudy, partly sunny economy,

2468
03:22:31,190 --> 03:22:39,590
And at a regional and state level, we're continuing to watch things with watchful eye on anything that could affect county funding.

2469
03:22:39,890 --> 03:22:48,810
In addition to that, this also includes a school transfer, a school operating transfer that we'll talk about in just a minute.

2470
03:22:49,030 --> 03:22:54,190
But over the next couple of years, we've noticed a couple of things within the schools both at the state level that is volatile.

2471
03:22:54,190 --> 03:23:04,070
And that 6.4 million held in the CIP, it could go to a future school project that's yet to be determined or if we hit volatility in the next 12 to 24 months,

2472
03:23:04,350 --> 03:23:11,770
this board may need to consider a recommendation that would reprioritize that CIP placeholder to replace lost revenue.

2473
03:23:11,970 --> 03:23:16,630
So that's something that is embedded in this year's manager's recommended budget.

2474
03:23:17,790 --> 03:23:24,990
So, we tend to focus on the general fund during budget season because that's where the tax revenue is received.

2475
03:23:25,650 --> 03:23:33,390
There's a primary funding source for schools, capital, and debt, and it's where this board has the maximum amount of policy discretion.

2476
03:23:36,050 --> 03:23:43,290
The general fund expenditures, as you can see, is balanced at $512 million dollars, and I'd

2477
03:23:43,290 --> 03:23:51,070
like to point out to the maroon area in the bottom left corner of the donate that, let's say,

2478
03:23:51,210 --> 03:23:57,450
43% transfer to schools that is from the general fund, and as we get into the school's budget

2479
03:23:57,450 --> 03:24:04,730
work session, our budget finance team will be able to talk the board through the funding that

2480
03:24:04,730 --> 03:24:11,270
recommended for schools. The guideline with the funding split and answer any of the board's

2481
03:24:11,270 --> 03:24:12,850
questions that you may have.

2482
03:24:15,410 --> 03:24:18,010
Okay, as our promise we're going to move into some of the key

2483
03:24:18,010 --> 03:24:22,890
investments recommended in this year's budget. The services and initiatives prioritize our

2484
03:24:22,890 --> 03:24:29,330
community safety and well-being and education and of course always ensuring a high level of quality

2485
03:24:29,330 --> 03:24:32,930
service and maintaining a strong quality of life.

2486
03:24:35,260 --> 03:24:40,080
In police, we're providing funding for three new police officer positions, starting

2487
03:24:40,080 --> 03:24:42,940
mid-year next year to support public safety.

2488
03:24:43,340 --> 03:24:46,660
We've added 19 police officer positions since 2021.

2489
03:24:47,160 --> 03:24:50,120
These officers, along with previous additions and investments,

2490
03:24:52,180 --> 03:24:54,280
will help ensure coverage

2491
03:24:54,280 --> 03:24:56,380
meets demand across our community.

2492
03:24:56,380 --> 03:25:01,220
I would point out that over the last three years our calls for service and police have done

2493
03:25:01,220 --> 03:25:02,540
at 19 percent.

2494
03:25:03,720 --> 03:25:08,100
We have recently undertook a comprehensive public safety staffing study that assessed our

2495
03:25:08,100 --> 03:25:12,840
police and file rescue departments to help ensure that we are most effectively providing

2496
03:25:12,840 --> 03:25:17,140
those public safety resources and response to our community.

2497
03:25:17,940 --> 03:25:23,820
This study reviewed industry standard and best practices and it made multi-year recommendations

2498
03:25:23,820 --> 03:25:27,120
that will serve us well over the next five to seven years.

2499
03:25:27,640 --> 03:25:31,480
It studied infrastructure, deployment, staffing, staffing strategy.

2500
03:25:32,100 --> 03:25:34,960
It addressed our changing risk profile as a county.

2501
03:25:35,420 --> 03:25:37,980
And as we continue to grow and change year after year,

2502
03:25:38,360 --> 03:25:41,600
the budget continues to multi-year implementation of those recommendations.

2503
03:25:42,300 --> 03:25:46,820
In addition, this budget contains $2.3 million to keep salaries

2504
03:25:46,820 --> 03:25:52,020
and our police department competitive for purposes of recruitment and retention.

2505
03:25:52,020 --> 03:25:59,320
turnover in public safety is extremely expensive and based on this assessment, the pay

2506
03:25:59,320 --> 03:26:03,920
scale for the police department will be revised to maintain competitive positioning

2507
03:26:03,920 --> 03:26:07,020
within our respective labor market.

2508
03:26:11,390 --> 03:26:16,130
Albumark County's committed to ensuring fire rescue has the resources needed to serve our

2509
03:26:16,130 --> 03:26:23,670
community effectively. Just as our benchmarked police calls for service going up 19% in the

2510
03:26:23,670 --> 03:26:31,750
last three years, fire rescue and EMS related call request have done up 13% in the last three years.

2511
03:26:32,150 --> 03:26:38,090
In recent years, this board knows that the county has successfully leveraged federal grant funding

2512
03:26:38,090 --> 03:26:44,910
for FEMA's safer grants to help us to be able to bring on paid professional firefighters

2513
03:26:44,910 --> 03:26:46,610
with federal money.

2514
03:26:46,610 --> 03:26:53,550
we've been successful in obtaining four grants today, and we have hired positions in fire

2515
03:26:53,550 --> 03:26:59,590
rescue, and that's to offset shortages without our professional volunteer firefighter programs

2516
03:26:59,590 --> 03:27:05,290
that stations that are all across the county. As I said, we've successfully competed

2517
03:27:05,290 --> 03:27:13,930
for four grants since fiscal year 21, terming $12.7 million, and we have hired 57 firefighters

2518
03:27:13,930 --> 03:27:20,830
with that money. In this coming budget, we have local funding for 30 positions in FI-27.

2519
03:27:21,410 --> 03:27:26,910
That federal funding is going away and as you can see on the slide that amounts to $1.7 million.

2520
03:27:27,590 --> 03:27:32,990
This is not a strategy board that is paid off very well for us because when you pull down three years of federal funding,

2521
03:27:32,990 --> 03:27:37,730
it gives you three years to begin to stay the ring the cost locally for these firefighters.

2522
03:27:38,030 --> 03:27:43,230
Otherwise, we had to pick up the cost right out of the gate or deal with the gap in service delivery.

2523
03:27:43,230 --> 03:27:50,390
This budget also contains $900,000 for fire rescue to continue to keep salaries competitive

2524
03:27:50,390 --> 03:27:55,890
for recruitment and retention, as I've said, turnover is expensive, and we've also

2525
03:27:55,890 --> 03:28:01,150
positioned ourselves to pursue a fifth FEMA grant to implement staffing study recommendations.

2526
03:28:02,010 --> 03:28:06,090
And as I said earlier, when we were talking about police, this deferred apartment also

2527
03:28:09,430 --> 03:28:14,050
underwent the study for the public safety staffing study within the department.

2528
03:28:14,590 --> 03:28:19,050
There are recommendations that we will begin to put into play over the next several

2529
03:28:19,050 --> 03:28:19,550
budgets.

2530
03:28:22,050 --> 03:28:26,630
Also included in next year's budget is a recommendation for three additional sheriff

2531
03:28:26,630 --> 03:28:27,730
deputy positions.

2532
03:28:28,790 --> 03:28:31,190
With the opening of new courts over the past year,

2533
03:28:31,310 --> 03:28:36,130
more facilities coming online in future years, these positions are being added to assist

2534
03:28:36,130 --> 03:28:39,390
with the day-to-day operations of the office, including

2535
03:28:39,390 --> 03:28:41,150
courthouse and courtroom security,

2536
03:28:41,790 --> 03:28:44,730
inmate transportation, and civil processing.

2537
03:28:46,830 --> 03:28:50,150
Emergency management, this is an important area for

2538
03:28:50,150 --> 03:28:53,050
Almer County Government, and we're recommending that,

2539
03:28:53,050 --> 03:28:56,430
and this is a budget neutral reorganization.

2540
03:28:56,470 --> 03:28:59,410
We're pulling the office of emergency management

2541
03:28:59,410 --> 03:29:02,950
from the Fire Rescue Department to a stand-alone office

2542
03:29:02,950 --> 03:29:05,350
within the public safety function of Almer County.

2543
03:29:05,350 --> 03:29:19,710
This function will report directly into the county executive's office, the Office of Emergency Management is responsible for strategic planning, coordinating and execution of emergency management activities across all phases of emergency management.

2544
03:29:20,550 --> 03:29:23,910
This includes preparedness, response, recovery and mitigation.

2545
03:29:24,690 --> 03:29:47,030
OEM, so it's at the center as the central point of contact for emergency management activities, including coordination with state and federal agencies as necessary, as well as state and federal regulations, and maintaining alignment with the national incident management system, NEMs, and the incident command system, ICS standards.

2546
03:29:47,030 --> 03:29:51,710
So, a mercy management has been a key priority for outmark County for several years.

2547
03:29:52,190 --> 03:29:56,610
Most often times, it's going to be weather-related events, multi-day weather-related

2548
03:29:56,610 --> 03:29:59,910
events, and it takes a lot of coordination with City, with the University.

2549
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,100
The state and our regional partners. We think this next step is a printed next step as we continue to strengthen this function.

2550
03:30:11,950 --> 03:30:23,190
Also included in this budget is $2.7 million of new funding for the Amark County School Division.

2551
03:30:23,190 --> 03:30:30,990
This is a 7.3% increase year over year from this year to next year.

2552
03:30:31,690 --> 03:30:38,470
It also embedded in that $2.7 million dollars is $9 million of additional local funding that

2553
03:30:38,470 --> 03:30:42,090
I'm recommending go to schools at this funding level.

2554
03:30:43,390 --> 03:30:49,870
We believe that there's funding operations included in this for two new schools that will

2555
03:30:49,870 --> 03:30:56,550
next year and we believe that have full funding necessary to open and operate those

2556
03:30:56,550 --> 03:31:01,910
two new schools. This also, we believe, fully meets the obligations of public

2557
03:31:01,910 --> 03:31:05,870
schools with their collective bargaining agreement, including salary increases

2558
03:31:05,870 --> 03:31:09,990
for staff, teachers, additional positions that are included in their recommended

2559
03:31:09,990 --> 03:31:15,590
budget for that's necessary to do the planning time, lunch breaks and so forth. They

2560
03:31:15,590 --> 03:31:22,910
also have a commitment to market base pay and keeping the positions that they survey every

2561
03:31:22,910 --> 03:31:28,790
year, market competitive and then finally I would point out for the schools that they continue

2562
03:31:28,790 --> 03:31:34,890
to rank very high across the state for poor people funding and low class sizes.

2563
03:31:35,330 --> 03:31:38,050
So we're excited to continue to partner with schools.

2564
03:31:40,600 --> 03:31:46,000
This slide shows increased revenue for public schools operating budget over the last 10 years

2565
03:31:46,000 --> 03:31:49,480
and this includes the FYR-27 recommended budget.

2566
03:31:50,040 --> 03:31:52,180
On average, the total public schools fund

2567
03:31:52,180 --> 03:31:56,700
on willing operating revenues have grown 5.8% every year.

2568
03:31:56,900 --> 03:32:00,160
This period incorporates a wide range of changing circumstances

2569
03:32:00,160 --> 03:32:04,660
as you can see by this graph, such as text rate increases,

2570
03:32:04,860 --> 03:32:06,700
that have been your mark for public education,

2571
03:32:07,320 --> 03:32:10,900
the opening of school editions, changes in state funding,

2572
03:32:11,500 --> 03:32:13,600
and the pandemic's initial revenue decline,

2573
03:32:13,600 --> 03:32:18,200
followed by the historically strong women who growth that followed it.

2574
03:32:18,260 --> 03:32:22,860
Board of Clean Out, this chart shows ongoing sources, for example.

2575
03:32:23,720 --> 03:32:31,040
This chart does not include that in the FY26 budget, that the Board approved a 7.7 million

2576
03:32:31,040 --> 03:32:37,820
dollar one-time allocation that went from local government to schools to take that money

2577
03:32:37,820 --> 03:32:43,000
and put into the joint local government schools health care fund, a 7.7 million dollars

2578
03:32:43,000 --> 03:32:45,280
is not anywhere on the screen.

2579
03:32:45,880 --> 03:32:47,420
Based on how their budget is designed,

2580
03:32:47,580 --> 03:32:50,980
they're not allowed to keep reserves above 2%.

2581
03:32:50,980 --> 03:32:53,980
That's why we've got to keep an eye on our reserves.

2582
03:32:54,640 --> 03:32:58,400
To be able to help the schools, if they have a drop in state funding,

2583
03:32:58,880 --> 03:33:00,920
or they have something unexpected happen,

2584
03:33:01,040 --> 03:33:03,720
and we're trying to help them to stabilize operations.

2585
03:33:08,000 --> 03:33:10,580
For fiscal year 27, for the second year in red,

2586
03:33:10,880 --> 03:33:15,220
we have a total of $5 million for the affordable housing investment fund

2587
03:33:15,220 --> 03:33:21,140
that we recommended. Investment in our warehousing, the county continues to invest in

2588
03:33:21,140 --> 03:33:25,500
developer incentives and other initiatives to expand affordable housing options.

2589
03:33:25,780 --> 03:33:29,700
The efforts focus on increasing the supply of affordable homes and rental units,

2590
03:33:30,180 --> 03:33:33,940
supporting workforce housing and assisting residents in securing stable housing.

2591
03:33:34,580 --> 03:33:38,840
Since the affordable housing investment fund was created in fiscal year 19,

2592
03:33:38,840 --> 03:33:46,340
Our more has invested over $22 million into affordable housing projects and programs, funding

2593
03:33:46,340 --> 03:33:52,180
for these sources and for these projects and programs came from a variety of sources, including

2594
03:33:52,720 --> 03:33:59,000
the affordable housing investment fund, American Rescue Plan Act, ARPA and human services

2595
03:33:59,000 --> 03:34:00,420
funding programs.

2596
03:34:01,180 --> 03:34:07,420
These funds have supported the construction or preservation of over 1,700 units of the

2597
03:34:07,420 --> 03:34:10,000
affordable housing, both rental and owner occupied.

2598
03:34:10,420 --> 03:34:16,100
It's also served to support shelter and supportive services for over 280 victims of domestic

2599
03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:23,160
violence, and 539 individuals experiencing homelessness, and then also housing counseling

2600
03:34:23,160 --> 03:34:28,280
and navigation support for over 788 individuals and families.

2601
03:34:29,240 --> 03:34:34,660
I also wrote to talk at the bottom of this slide, a 20% increase to the elderly and disabled

2602
03:34:34,660 --> 03:34:35,940
tax relief program.

2603
03:34:35,940 --> 03:34:42,720
The FY27 budget includes a 20% increase, this provides real estate and mobile home tax exemption

2604
03:34:42,720 --> 03:34:48,500
for taxpayers who qualify under age, finance, financial or medical guidelines, total funding

2605
03:34:48,500 --> 03:34:53,240
available for the program for the coming year will be $2.8 million dollars.

2606
03:34:53,320 --> 03:34:55,380
That's almost one cent on the tax rate.

2607
03:34:55,800 --> 03:35:00,720
The increase is due to expenditure trends of the program and changes in income thresholds

2608
03:35:00,720 --> 03:35:04,860
financial, worth criteria all approved by the Board of Supervisors in January.

2609
03:35:04,860 --> 03:35:13,820
Next year's budget has a recommended continuation of dedicated water resources funding to cover

2610
03:35:13,820 --> 03:35:19,400
water resources operating and debt service payment, cost and reserve for CIP projects.

2611
03:35:19,920 --> 03:35:26,140
Climate action funding is also included with $300,000 of one-time funding that would go in fiscal

2612
03:35:26,140 --> 03:35:32,040
year 27 and it will match the one-time funding that was put into the program in fiscal 26.

2613
03:35:32,040 --> 03:35:40,620
There is a carryover projected going into next year of reappropriated money from this year for programs yet to be completed.

2614
03:35:41,100 --> 03:35:46,600
Those would include raise additional energy improvements, county building energy efficiency programs.

2615
03:35:47,200 --> 03:35:52,920
The energy resource hub, the Climate Action Collaborative Initiative, the Climate Residence Cohort Support.

2616
03:35:52,920 --> 03:35:59,400
Also, board, I'll point real quick to $140,000 that is earmarked from the plastic bag

2617
03:35:59,400 --> 03:36:05,860
tax for a continuation of our roadside litter program.

2618
03:36:05,980 --> 03:36:11,300
As you know, we have a vibrant volunteer program in the county that does quite a good job,

2619
03:36:11,600 --> 03:36:18,140
but we've collected $440,000 since the implementation of the disposable plastic bag tax

2620
03:36:18,140 --> 03:36:20,100
was created in fiscal year 23.

2621
03:36:20,100 --> 03:36:27,300
from December of 24 to December of 25, the plastic bag funded roadside little cleanup program

2622
03:36:27,300 --> 03:36:34,480
has cleaned and out more county over 1,000 miles of road and has collected over 3,900 bags

2623
03:36:34,480 --> 03:36:40,400
of trash from out roads and out more county. So this is an example of the board diversifying

2624
03:36:40,400 --> 03:36:47,560
the tax revenue, creating a consumer tax and that is five cents on plastic bags is devoted to

2625
03:36:47,560 --> 03:36:53,800
clean up programs in the county and we've got good data to show how that's working for our community.

2626
03:36:54,140 --> 03:36:56,640
We'll take a minute and talk about economic development.

2627
03:36:57,860 --> 03:37:05,500
The fiscal year 27 recommended budget includes $4.15 million of additional one-time funding for economic development.

2628
03:37:06,080 --> 03:37:11,440
This fund was designed to provide ready, flexible funding to support economic development opportunities.

2629
03:37:11,440 --> 03:37:26,180
I'll give you an example that we learned during the AstraZeneca attraction effort over the last year that our ability to quickly respond to the needs of the state, the questions they have on infrastructure improvements and commitment to being site ready.

2630
03:37:26,560 --> 03:37:34,880
It was critical in landing the company here in Almar County, economic development opportunities don't come on a predictable schedule, this board knows that.

2631
03:37:34,880 --> 03:37:41,600
So we always need balance cash on hand against unknown future opportunities, having a sufficient

2632
03:37:41,600 --> 03:37:47,620
fund available allows us to have stronger comfort, approving funding for good opportunities,

2633
03:37:48,880 --> 03:37:53,780
aligned with our strategic plan, our economic developments for strategic plan, knowing

2634
03:37:53,780 --> 03:37:59,040
that we have got a focus of really razor focus on the type of industry that fits best

2635
03:37:59,040 --> 03:38:00,200
and out more county.

2636
03:38:00,200 --> 03:38:00,840
More

2637
03:38:11,910 --> 03:38:19,230
the county recently undertook a study on how to understand the different classes of property that drive the services that we deliver

2638
03:38:19,230 --> 03:38:29,650
You've got that assembly of that in this slide in front of you, but I want to point your attention to is the orange yellow color at the bottom

2639
03:38:29,650 --> 03:38:35,890
That's commercial in the industry and I'll point your attention to in 2015 and 2015 ten years ago

2640
03:38:35,890 --> 03:38:39,610
We had a 15% tax base that covered commercial in the industry

2641
03:38:41,270 --> 03:38:47,610
10 years later, we have slipped to 11.3% in the fall right bottom box.

2642
03:38:47,790 --> 03:38:52,210
You can see that the cost for service on business and industry, commercial investment.

2643
03:38:52,770 --> 03:38:57,890
For every dollar we receive, we pay 32 cents in service delivery.

2644
03:38:58,430 --> 03:39:04,570
So there is a ribbon and margin of 68 cents that we plow back into our budget for services,

2645
03:39:04,970 --> 03:39:10,690
operations, and investment all aimed at quality of life in service delivery.

2646
03:39:10,690 --> 03:39:11,690
an album, Mark County.

2647
03:39:14,030 --> 03:39:17,070
I want you to look at the residential and multi-family over the

2648
03:39:17,070 --> 03:39:24,390
same period of time. It's gone from just over 65% to almost 74%. And that really is not

2649
03:39:24,390 --> 03:39:31,070
so much new homes. It's a combination of new homes and assess value growth. And we've not

2650
03:39:31,070 --> 03:39:36,550
significantly lost commercial in the industry. It's just that residential has significantly

2651
03:39:36,550 --> 03:39:41,870
outpaced it. And when you look at the top right hand box for service delivery and the cost

2652
03:39:41,870 --> 03:39:47,430
for every dollar received on residential and multifamily, it cost $1.31 to serve.

2653
03:39:47,890 --> 03:39:52,310
These are statistics that match up nationally. This is not just album Mark County. This

2654
03:39:52,310 --> 03:39:58,150
matches up across the United States. And so when we talk about revenue diversification strategy

2655
03:39:58,150 --> 03:40:03,090
to keep album Mark County affordable, we've got to pay attention to the amount of commercial

2656
03:40:03,090 --> 03:40:11,650
and industry investment in our county because it is a affordability strategy and it is a tax

2657
03:40:11,650 --> 03:40:13,890
based diversification strategy.

2658
03:40:14,590 --> 03:40:16,970
It's in my work plan over the next five years

2659
03:40:16,970 --> 03:40:22,670
to get that 15 at 11.3% number back to 15%.

2660
03:40:22,670 --> 03:40:25,370
With the investment that we've seen over the last couple of years,

2661
03:40:25,550 --> 03:40:27,230
we predict that in five years,

2662
03:40:27,370 --> 03:40:30,150
we will be back hovering around 15%.

2663
03:40:30,150 --> 03:40:33,050
And I believe that in order for us to begin to see the relief

2664
03:40:33,050 --> 03:40:36,930
that we need, we need to be into the 17 to 18% range

2665
03:40:36,930 --> 03:40:37,770
out of minimum.

2666
03:40:37,770 --> 03:40:38,530
I'll

2667
03:40:43,580 --> 03:40:45,880
switch and talk in for a few minutes about our workforce.

2668
03:40:46,640 --> 03:40:54,680
It's one of our six strategic goals, as you can see it supports go number six, which is a strong workforce and good customer service within our county.

2669
03:40:55,240 --> 03:40:59,660
Consistent with county budgets, our county's compensation philosophy.

2670
03:41:00,280 --> 03:41:05,120
The 27 budget includes a review of classified scale positions on it to your cycle

2671
03:41:05,120 --> 03:41:09,820
and to make appropriate market adjustments so that we maintain market competitiveness

2672
03:41:09,820 --> 03:41:15,160
in this and keep our turnover rates low. It also includes a 2%

2673
03:41:15,160 --> 03:41:22,900
core and a one-time bonus for classified staff. It also includes $1.4 million in our budget

2674
03:41:22,900 --> 03:41:27,780
devoted to staff training and development, as well as recognizing that our health

2675
03:41:27,780 --> 03:41:33,300
care fund was stabilized, is still dealing with health care inflation, and we're

2676
03:41:33,300 --> 03:41:37,500
going to need to invest an additional 8% in that over the next year.

2677
03:41:38,880 --> 03:41:40,280
We're

2678
03:41:42,460 --> 03:41:47,020
just a busy slide, and we talked about it last week, it's intentionally busy because

2679
03:41:47,020 --> 03:41:56,960
this slide represents 68 partner agencies in which we devote $40.7 million of funding on a yearly

2680
03:41:56,960 --> 03:41:57,660
basis.

2681
03:41:58,140 --> 03:42:03,940
We recognize that our local government cannot meet every need on one, by funding non-profit

2682
03:42:03,940 --> 03:42:10,620
and community organizations, we strengthen the regional safety net and improve residents access

2683
03:42:10,620 --> 03:42:15,460
about our services. Let's look just for a minute at what some of this looks like.

2684
03:42:17,650 --> 03:42:24,410
Public safety, 14.5 million dollars next year. That's a 20% increase in F-27 from

2685
03:42:24,410 --> 03:42:29,630
26 and it's really across five partner agencies, including the Album Mart Charlottesville

2686
03:42:29,630 --> 03:42:35,270
Regional Jail, the Emergency Communications Center, the 911 Center, which is a partnership

2687
03:42:35,270 --> 03:42:37,750
between the city, the county and UVA.

2688
03:42:38,430 --> 03:42:41,730
And then also, Charlottesville, Albuquerque, SPCA.

2689
03:42:42,190 --> 03:42:46,550
This is funding increases to support operating costs

2690
03:42:46,550 --> 03:42:49,430
and service demands in our animal sheltering

2691
03:42:49,430 --> 03:42:51,770
through our third-party contract.

2692
03:42:52,470 --> 03:42:57,650
It also includes transit agencies at $8.2 million

2693
03:42:58,180 --> 03:43:02,550
that includes Charlottesville area transit, cat, micro-cat,

2694
03:43:02,750 --> 03:43:05,090
which is the on-demand public rideshare service

2695
03:43:05,090 --> 03:43:11,410
that operates in the Charlotte spill area transit and pay for by the county, as well as

2696
03:43:11,410 --> 03:43:11,810
jumped.

2697
03:43:11,930 --> 03:43:17,510
John is a regional public transportation system, providing paratransit services and outmars

2698
03:43:17,510 --> 03:43:20,410
rural demand, response, and commuter services.

2699
03:43:21,110 --> 03:43:27,270
It also includes libraries and tourism, and includes our Jefferson Madison Regional Library,

2700
03:43:27,570 --> 03:43:31,870
which is a partnership, and we're investing no money there, as well as the Charlottesville,

2701
03:43:31,870 --> 03:43:37,190
more conditions in Bizarre's Bureau, and it's trying to, for us, to continue to strengthen

2702
03:43:37,190 --> 03:43:43,770
our regional tourism and economic impact. It also includes health and welfare, non-human

2703
03:43:43,770 --> 03:43:50,910
service priority funding. For region 10, the Blue Ridge Health Department, A-Hip and the Jefferson

2704
03:43:50,910 --> 03:43:55,410
Board on Aging, and then finally public quarks at three and a half million dollars. That's

2705
03:43:55,410 --> 03:44:00,010
where Banta Solid Waste Authority, taking almost all of that, which provides for our county

2706
03:44:00,010 --> 03:44:05,990
recycling, solid waste, household hazardous waste disposal services across the county.

2707
03:44:10,980 --> 03:44:18,580
Human Services funding, 29 programs, $1.6 million, this prioritizes programs that serve

2708
03:44:18,580 --> 03:44:23,160
the most vulnerable members of our community, including elderly residents, households with

2709
03:44:23,160 --> 03:44:28,620
kids under the age of six, medically vulnerable individuals, enhanced compliance to ensure that

2710
03:44:28,620 --> 03:44:32,520
funded programs are both effective and accountable.

2711
03:44:36,300 --> 03:44:37,900
Take a second and look at our CIP.

2712
03:44:40,710 --> 03:44:42,390
Well, this has gotten a lot of attention

2713
03:44:42,390 --> 03:44:44,770
and it will continue to and our budget talking

2714
03:44:44,770 --> 03:44:48,110
about our CIP and our five year CIP

2715
03:44:48,110 --> 03:44:50,150
and what we're able to afford to do.

2716
03:44:50,990 --> 03:44:52,670
So I'll talk just for a minute

2717
03:44:53,390 --> 03:44:55,610
that the counties in the process of executing

2718
03:44:55,610 --> 03:44:58,250
the five largest CIP projects

2719
03:44:58,250 --> 03:44:59,970
in the history of the county.

2720
03:45:00,140 --> 03:45:06,660
That's the court's complex, the Ravanna Futures property purchase, and the construction of three new schools.

2721
03:45:07,000 --> 03:45:12,220
These five projects have budgets that total together, $296 million.

2722
03:45:13,780 --> 03:45:21,460
And as they are complete, they create a funding obligation over the next 20 years following issuing the bonds to pay for them.

2723
03:45:21,920 --> 03:45:27,740
And board, I'll remind you with respect that the county's debt services are mortgage payment, and it continues to grow.

2724
03:45:27,740 --> 03:45:33,920
because you and the staff through our strategic plan were trying to address the strategic needs,

2725
03:45:34,360 --> 03:45:40,180
not just the operational but the capital investment in order for us to address problems and opportunities

2726
03:45:40,180 --> 03:45:44,920
and maintain the strong quality of life here and album more accounting.

2727
03:45:46,380 --> 03:45:55,480
This is a snapshot of the schools that the CIP plan that is right now earmarked for school projects over the next five years,

2728
03:45:55,480 --> 03:46:04,440
and that total's $196.8 million and you have an upcoming budget work session where we will dig into the details of what that means.

2729
03:46:06,760 --> 03:46:16,280
Also, in the CIP, you've got about $160.3 million that's dedicated to a variety of local government projects.

2730
03:46:16,280 --> 03:46:22,260
in your most board that in years three, three, five, and that's year 29, 30, and 31, that we

2731
03:46:22,260 --> 03:46:29,220
look like in new projects because we're having to focus on maintaining ongoing programs, paying

2732
03:46:29,220 --> 03:46:32,680
our debt service and keeping an eye on out your obligations.

2733
03:46:37,880 --> 03:46:42,120
So board, that wraps me up. The staff

2734
03:46:42,120 --> 03:46:47,170
was supposed to time me to see how long it took. I respectfully asked at the time that I was

2735
03:46:47,170 --> 03:46:50,770
that we had to take a break, that that'd be taken away from the time, please.

2736
03:46:51,570 --> 03:46:54,170
And that not that not the undue of counted against me.

2737
03:46:54,430 --> 03:46:57,850
But the key takeaways from the FY27 recommended budget,

2738
03:46:58,030 --> 03:47:02,270
no proposed changes to the tax rates, obligations continue to rise

2739
03:47:02,270 --> 03:47:06,270
and we are planning with a multi-year eye on paying for those obligations.

2740
03:47:06,870 --> 03:47:10,430
Service demands are evolving and we need to continue to evolve

2741
03:47:10,430 --> 03:47:12,430
to meet the changing community needs.

2742
03:47:12,990 --> 03:47:16,430
We have an evolving tax base, we need to plan ahead for significant investment

2743
03:47:16,430 --> 03:47:19,650
and folks, what you're seeing is just doing print up

2744
03:47:19,650 --> 03:47:22,150
multi-year planning that will continue to shape the future.

2745
03:47:23,530 --> 03:47:26,410
This budget prioritizes education, public safety

2746
03:47:26,410 --> 03:47:29,770
and a strong workforce. It includes funding the schools,

2747
03:47:30,170 --> 03:47:33,610
transitioning our FEMA funding to local government funding

2748
03:47:33,610 --> 03:47:37,430
for our firefighters, adding new police, adding new sheriff positions,

2749
03:47:37,730 --> 03:47:40,890
keeping our pay competitive, and we need to continue to recruit

2750
03:47:40,890 --> 03:47:43,590
and retain high quality public servants.

2751
03:47:43,590 --> 03:47:49,450
Most of our investment is tied directly to the Board's multi-year strategic plan, and I'm

2752
03:47:49,450 --> 03:47:50,590
excited about that.

2753
03:47:50,790 --> 03:47:56,510
This plan that we hear about from our community, includes affordable housing, environmental

2754
03:47:56,510 --> 03:48:01,930
stewardship, economic development, by following our own financial policies and preparing

2755
03:48:01,930 --> 03:48:05,290
for significant future capital needs.

2756
03:48:05,810 --> 03:48:10,470
Finally, this budget is a two-year bridge budget that maintains stability now and positions

2757
03:48:10,470 --> 03:48:15,230
out more county for long term success as we strengthen in diverse fire tax base.

2758
03:48:15,670 --> 03:48:19,970
Mr. Chair, thank you for the time this evening. I'll turn it over to you for the public

2759
03:48:19,970 --> 03:48:25,770
caring and again the staff will be available to take questions as they come up.

2760
03:48:25,910 --> 03:48:26,750
Thank you very much.

2761
03:48:27,530 --> 03:48:31,090
Great. I'll do it just a quick pass to see if there are any questions before we hear

2762
03:48:31,090 --> 03:48:34,130
from those who signed up to speak. Supervisor Pervett.

2763
03:48:35,450 --> 03:48:40,050
Yes. So I will just note that this is a summary of what I said during previous

2764
03:48:40,050 --> 03:48:45,170
previous budget hearing, having thought about it a little bit more and also just for the

2765
03:48:45,170 --> 03:48:51,550
public's benefit. I had a constituent talk to me recently in the grocery store and asked

2766
03:48:51,550 --> 03:48:57,610
me very tithily like, so that's in the budget. What are we looking at? And for my own kind

2767
03:48:57,610 --> 03:49:04,430
of thinking through it, I've started to think every year having done this no twice. There's

2768
03:49:04,430 --> 03:49:08,430
kind of the key budget stories and from our legislative perspective, there's the things that

2769
03:49:08,430 --> 03:49:14,310
recognize that we can change between now and then in a really compressed time one, and so

2770
03:49:14,310 --> 03:49:18,750
I've started trying to think of the budget in terms of what are the asks and what are the places

2771
03:49:18,750 --> 03:49:24,510
that might have give to get there. From my reckoning, and this is also going to be speaking

2772
03:49:24,510 --> 03:49:29,990
a little subjectively, I'm thinking it looks like the big asks that I'm expecting us to be talking

2773
03:49:29,990 --> 03:49:34,990
about, a lot this year, and other supervisors might have differing things. The thing, the three that

2774
03:49:34,990 --> 03:49:41,130
I'm tracking on as big asks, I'm expecting possible movement on school capital to huge

2775
03:49:41,130 --> 03:49:41,650
story.

2776
03:49:41,710 --> 03:49:42,710
It's all over the news.

2777
03:49:43,730 --> 03:49:47,630
The housing trust fund, we're halfway to the target, but we're not there.

2778
03:49:48,810 --> 03:49:50,450
And school operating funds.

2779
03:49:51,050 --> 03:49:52,770
That's always going to be a attention point.

2780
03:49:53,010 --> 03:49:58,090
And here is the first time in a long time that we've changed our percent-wise contribution

2781
03:49:58,090 --> 03:49:58,810
to schools.

2782
03:49:58,810 --> 03:50:04,710
the places that might have a give to help get toward any of those things.

2783
03:50:05,910 --> 03:50:12,210
There is $6.2 million that we're putting into capital reserves on behalf of the schools.

2784
03:50:13,150 --> 03:50:17,810
There is an economic development fund that is refunded up to 4 million,

2785
03:50:17,830 --> 03:50:23,930
sorry, not up to, that is refunded at 4 million, 4 million new and fused when 4 million is previously

2786
03:50:23,930 --> 03:50:27,370
what took several years to fill the economic development fund up.

2787
03:50:27,930 --> 03:50:31,170
And there is always the possibility of a tax rate being considered.

2788
03:50:32,230 --> 03:50:34,650
Those are the things I see as possibly having given.

2789
03:50:34,930 --> 03:50:39,390
And those are the things that I know from public comment from the emails that I get

2790
03:50:39,390 --> 03:50:43,110
and the angry phone calls I get are our places of community concern.

2791
03:50:43,250 --> 03:50:48,430
And those are, I'm not saying I'm specifically going to use any of those tools.

2792
03:50:48,690 --> 03:50:51,350
And I'm not committing to getting toward those three goals.

2793
03:50:51,490 --> 03:50:54,390
But those are the things I'm hearing as the goals from the community.

2794
03:50:54,390 --> 03:50:58,530
And those are the places at this point in time, very, very early in the budget cycle.

2795
03:50:58,530 --> 03:51:02,050
I see it's potentially being targets of where to find that money.

2796
03:51:03,230 --> 03:51:04,950
And with that, I will turn over.

2797
03:51:06,050 --> 03:51:07,530
All right, Supervisor Lappista, currently?

2798
03:51:09,550 --> 03:51:11,190
I like your proposed budget.

2799
03:51:11,430 --> 03:51:12,390
I think it's fair.

2800
03:51:12,590 --> 03:51:13,610
I think it's balanced.

2801
03:51:14,210 --> 03:51:16,830
I think it meets a lot of our needs.

2802
03:51:17,590 --> 03:51:22,190
We don't have unlimited amounts of money to do everything that we want.

2803
03:51:22,490 --> 03:51:23,890
Otherwise we would do it.

2804
03:51:23,890 --> 03:51:26,510
It just doesn't work that way.

2805
03:51:27,430 --> 03:51:32,430
People do want us to be very cognizant of the tax rate,

2806
03:51:32,770 --> 03:51:35,930
the real estate property, the real estate tax rate,

2807
03:51:36,530 --> 03:51:39,750
because it's costing them a lot of money also

2808
03:51:39,750 --> 03:51:41,830
to fund a lot of these other programs.

2809
03:51:41,950 --> 03:51:44,970
So we have to be cognizant of that.

2810
03:51:45,490 --> 03:51:50,670
I like which been proposed any time you change something,

2811
03:51:50,870 --> 03:51:53,670
then you're going to have to take from someplace

2812
03:51:53,670 --> 03:51:59,650
else and I think you're going to have a lot of pushback because I do believe we've I think you've

2813
03:51:59,650 --> 03:52:07,590
done a great job as far as narrowing it down what the community wants what we can do and how we

2814
03:52:07,590 --> 03:52:16,470
can pay for it. Thank you. Supervisor Missle. Thank you, Chair. I want to commend staff for the

2815
03:52:16,470 --> 03:52:23,210
great work to get us to this balance budget to this point. Also echo something that you've said

2816
03:52:23,210 --> 03:52:26,590
in the past, which is we have more problems and opportunities when we have money.

2817
03:52:27,430 --> 03:52:32,450
And so keeping that in mind as we move into the budget season is going to be so boring,

2818
03:52:32,750 --> 03:52:33,110
I think.

2819
03:52:33,470 --> 03:52:38,590
But also in some cases, hopefully rewarding as we look to some of those trade-offs that

2820
03:52:38,590 --> 03:52:43,570
supervisor Prue had mentioned, which I agree with, and I'll just say that I look forward

2821
03:52:43,570 --> 03:52:49,230
to working on with schools, on the two on Tuesdays and with all of us, on the work sessions

2822
03:52:49,230 --> 03:52:51,730
coming up in the next few weeks to better understand.

2823
03:52:51,730 --> 03:53:00,590
Some of the details that you've gone through, I do have specific questions, but I know they'll likely be answered next week and through the work session, so I will pause there.

2824
03:53:01,110 --> 03:53:02,070
Great, Supervisor Duncan.

2825
03:53:03,990 --> 03:53:06,790
Yeah, I'm sure during the work sessions will get into a lot.

2826
03:53:06,890 --> 03:53:13,050
I would just say kind of off the top of my main concerns are funding for housing.

2827
03:53:13,810 --> 03:53:25,130
I'm also pretty uncomfortable with the 6.4 to CIP instead of to the schools and then I also would like to see more funding for climate initiatives.

2828
03:53:26,610 --> 03:53:30,890
But again, recognizing that there are always lots more requests than there's 24.

2829
03:53:33,350 --> 03:53:34,310
Supervisor Malik.

2830
03:53:35,350 --> 03:53:36,730
Thank you and thank you for the homework.

2831
03:53:36,950 --> 03:53:41,610
We all have a lot to study and come up with good questions to ask in the upcoming meetings.

2832
03:53:41,610 --> 03:53:46,770
I see this as the beginning of the process, not the end, so we all have a lot to learn.

2833
03:53:47,510 --> 03:53:52,050
We also have to figure out what we can control and what we can't, and the local government

2834
03:53:52,050 --> 03:53:58,030
being the bottom of the governmental hierarchy has to pick up the pieces when other levels

2835
03:53:58,030 --> 03:54:00,470
of government fail to do their job.

2836
03:54:00,910 --> 03:54:03,050
So we know they're increasing state of federal mandates.

2837
03:54:03,290 --> 03:54:07,850
We all have to decide how to manage to protect our citizenry.

2838
03:54:08,570 --> 03:54:14,450
And also in our minds, I think, is the large number of Al-Wau County residents who are

2839
03:54:14,450 --> 03:54:19,730
strapped to the end to meet their tax obligations, and so we have to be keeping them

2840
03:54:19,730 --> 03:54:23,750
in mind as we go forward with all of this work, but I appreciate you all being here.

2841
03:54:24,030 --> 03:54:25,290
I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

2842
03:54:27,330 --> 03:54:28,250
Thank you, supervisors.

2843
03:54:28,530 --> 03:54:33,470
This will be the first of a couple of public hearings, and then obviously we'll be doing

2844
03:54:33,470 --> 03:54:38,570
work sessions in public for folks that give your comments today, but we hope that you'll

2845
03:54:38,570 --> 03:54:41,850
come back and give us additional comments as we work through the process.

2846
03:54:42,330 --> 03:54:47,370
But with that, we will move to those who have signed up to speak this evening on the recommended

2847
03:54:47,370 --> 03:54:48,050
budget.

2848
03:54:48,990 --> 03:54:52,390
And Vice Chair Missile will take us through our speaking rules.

2849
03:54:53,150 --> 03:54:53,350
Great.

2850
03:54:53,350 --> 03:54:53,970
Thank you, Chair.

2851
03:54:55,310 --> 03:54:58,730
During public hearings, the Board will acknowledge speakers addressing the item listed

2852
03:54:58,730 --> 03:54:59,650
for public hearing.

2853
03:54:59,650 --> 03:55:03,410
speakers are limited to one appearance, three minutes per public hearing item.

2854
03:55:04,290 --> 03:55:07,210
Timekeeping is conducted through a timer and light system at the podium.

2855
03:55:07,790 --> 03:55:10,870
The green light will go on when you begin speaking, which begins your lot of time.

2856
03:55:11,050 --> 03:55:13,550
The yellow light indicates you have one minute to finish speaking.

2857
03:55:14,110 --> 03:55:17,490
The red light indicates your time is expired and you will be asked to end your comments.

2858
03:55:18,090 --> 03:55:23,330
In order to give all speakers equal treatment and courtesy, the board requests that speakers adhere to the following guidelines.

2859
03:55:23,910 --> 03:55:26,670
When addressing the boards, date your name, and if you live in Al-Marl County,

2860
03:55:26,670 --> 03:55:31,770
or of Magisterial District address comments directly to the board as a whole, any written

2861
03:55:31,770 --> 03:55:34,590
statements or other supporting material may be given to the clerk.

2862
03:55:35,130 --> 03:55:38,810
If representing a group or organization you may ask others present to raise their hands

2863
03:55:38,810 --> 03:55:43,730
in recognition, speakers may not share any unused time with another speaker back and forth

2864
03:55:43,730 --> 03:55:47,190
debate is not permitted, do not speak from your seat or out of term.

2865
03:55:47,770 --> 03:55:52,210
All comments are live streamed recorded and published on the Al-Marl County website and again

2866
03:55:52,210 --> 03:55:58,190
this reminder to please introduce yourself and to speak directly into the microphone so we can hear you.

2867
03:55:58,630 --> 03:56:02,510
All right, with that, I will start with Denise Zito.

2868
03:56:16,630 --> 03:56:22,690
Miss Zito, you're left. You're going to see little arrows. You can move that podium down if you look to your.

2869
03:56:23,270 --> 03:56:24,290
So we can see you.

2870
03:56:24,290 --> 03:56:25,290
Because we can't see you.

2871
03:56:25,290 --> 03:56:25,970
Oh, there you are.

2872
03:56:27,710 --> 03:56:32,930
And I would just as a general note to everyone, you can adjust that podium up or down if you are.

2873
03:56:33,430 --> 03:56:36,830
If you're too tall or too tall, if you're tall.

2874
03:56:38,030 --> 03:56:39,410
I think I'm supposed to speak into both.

2875
03:56:39,410 --> 03:56:39,950
Please do.

2876
03:56:41,590 --> 03:56:42,350
All right.

2877
03:56:42,490 --> 03:56:42,910
Impact.

2878
03:56:42,910 --> 03:56:43,510
Great for hand.

2879
03:56:43,630 --> 03:56:43,970
Good evening.

2880
03:56:44,110 --> 03:56:45,370
My name is Denise Zito.

2881
03:56:45,470 --> 03:56:46,730
I live in the U.S.

2882
03:56:47,110 --> 03:56:48,890
No White Hall, Match Stereo District.

2883
03:56:50,310 --> 03:56:51,990
But in addition to being here with impact,

2884
03:56:52,250 --> 03:56:54,850
I'm a member of the Society of St. Vincent DePaul.

2885
03:56:55,670 --> 03:56:59,290
This is a 200-year-old worldwide Catholic organization

2886
03:56:59,290 --> 03:57:01,910
that gives direct assistance to those in need.

2887
03:57:01,910 --> 03:57:05,470
Our group in Charlottesville was founded six years ago.

2888
03:57:06,070 --> 03:57:09,750
Those in need call us, we send two volunteers to visit within.

2889
03:57:10,370 --> 03:57:14,590
We hear their situation and then we pay up to $1,000 of their rent

2890
03:57:14,590 --> 03:57:16,330
to keep them from being evicted.

2891
03:57:17,130 --> 03:57:21,030
We only have a family or individual once every 12 months.

2892
03:57:22,130 --> 03:57:27,810
Last year alone, we collected and distributed over $200,000 in direct aid.

2893
03:57:28,550 --> 03:57:35,650
We receive over 100 calls a week, and of course we can't help everyone who calls, but the stories are heartbreaking.

2894
03:57:36,810 --> 03:57:40,010
People are who are disabled and they can't pay their rent.

2895
03:57:40,470 --> 03:57:44,730
We heard about a trailer with a hole in it, no lighting, no heat.

2896
03:57:45,390 --> 03:57:51,390
Mothers with their children sleeping in their cars because they can't afford to deposit in a first month's rent.

2897
03:57:52,430 --> 03:57:56,350
But others are working two or three jobs to try to afford their rent.

2898
03:57:56,350 --> 03:58:01,210
They're corner breaks down, they're injured, they lose a week of work.

2899
03:58:01,930 --> 03:58:04,510
The university lays them off when school's not in session.

2900
03:58:05,850 --> 03:58:07,630
We are not talking irresponsibility.

2901
03:58:07,990 --> 03:58:12,310
We are talking about people living on the edge through no fault of their own.

2902
03:58:13,530 --> 03:58:18,670
The local department complexes make it difficult for the renters and us to pay.

2903
03:58:19,390 --> 03:58:22,870
There's the rent and then their separate fees for trash and for utilities.

2904
03:58:23,890 --> 03:58:36,630
Some of the local apartment complexes of a winter is late require that winter to take cash from the bank account and pay at the Walmart or 711 where the payment is then wired to the apartment owner.

2905
03:58:37,330 --> 03:58:49,070
I myself have paid a thousand dollars in cash to the 711 to pay someone's rent and of course there is a $3.99 privilege fee for the privilege of doing so.

2906
03:58:49,070 --> 03:58:52,130
In fact, I've been talking to this board for nine years.

2907
03:58:52,670 --> 03:58:55,690
The problem is overwhelming for the churches trying to help these people.

2908
03:58:56,730 --> 03:59:01,930
We've provided a viable solution in the form of $10 million, not $5 million,

2909
03:59:01,930 --> 03:59:05,090
$10 million, commitment to affordable housing.

2910
03:59:05,870 --> 03:59:10,970
While you wait, these people are drowning, and the churches alone cannot help everyone.

2911
03:59:12,250 --> 03:59:16,230
All the impact conversations poor money into this community

2912
03:59:16,230 --> 03:59:23,090
and direct aid to those in need. And we will always do so. But this is clearly a public policy

2913
03:59:23,090 --> 03:59:30,370
issue. We'll rest skyrocket and wages don't keep up. It's a supply problem. The Society of

2914
03:59:30,370 --> 03:59:36,510
Safe and Zipoll joins the impact in urging you to finally fully fund the Affordable Trust Fund,

2915
03:59:36,550 --> 03:59:41,850
Affordable Housing Trust Fund, with a recurring $10 million annually. Thank you.

2916
03:59:41,850 --> 03:59:45,990
Thank you. Thank you, Vicki Bravo.

2917
03:59:52,500 --> 03:59:56,880
I'd invite folks if you're in support of the speaker that you can raise your hand, but show that support.

2918
03:59:57,260 --> 03:59:59,960
It's actually visually easier to see how many are supported.

2919
04:00:03,260 --> 04:00:21,760
Good evening. My name is Vicky Bravo and I'm a member of the impact. We are so pleased that the Affordable Housing Investment Fund is up and running. It represents years of work and thoughtful consideration by Dr. Petthia and the Board of Supervisors.

2920
04:00:22,680 --> 04:00:30,680
It won't help reduce the affordable housing crisis unless it has a meaningful amount of funding.

2921
04:00:31,580 --> 04:00:36,120
We know that every year the county receives more proposals than you can fund.

2922
04:00:36,700 --> 04:00:41,660
The proposed budget calls for 5 million in the fund and we need at least 10 million.

2923
04:00:42,640 --> 04:00:50,600
When we first recommended 10 million a year, it was estimated that it would fund about 330 units per year,

2924
04:00:50,600 --> 04:00:59,160
So, 3300 units in 10 years, they all won't find that much, but it will be able to make a dent in the need.

2925
04:01:00,200 --> 04:01:06,380
UVA has a goal of 1,000 to 1,500 affordable units in 10 years.

2926
04:01:07,080 --> 04:01:11,640
The city also plans to build several thousand over the next 10 years.

2927
04:01:12,360 --> 04:01:16,120
If all this happens, we won't solve the problem,

2928
04:01:16,120 --> 04:01:22,080
But we also won't continue to fall behind in the way we have in recent years.

2929
04:01:22,740 --> 04:01:27,540
We commend Dr. Peffia and the Board of Supervisors for the many hours of work that have

2930
04:01:27,540 --> 04:01:28,740
gone into this.

2931
04:01:29,120 --> 04:01:31,520
We need the funds to make it worthwhile.

2932
04:01:32,500 --> 04:01:40,320
As Al-Bamal County grows business, we must have the housing to support it for all the necessary

2933
04:01:40,320 --> 04:01:42,040
levels of workforce.

2934
04:01:42,800 --> 04:01:44,080
We're already behind.

2935
04:01:44,960 --> 04:01:45,560
Thank you.

2936
04:01:45,560 --> 04:01:47,840
Thank you.

2937
04:01:48,040 --> 04:01:49,300
Heidi Gilman Bennett.

2938
04:01:58,140 --> 04:01:58,440
Hi there.

2939
04:01:58,840 --> 04:01:59,800
Heidi Gilman Bennett.

2940
04:02:00,340 --> 04:02:03,900
I'm a volunteer leader of Family Council.

2941
04:02:04,420 --> 04:02:07,920
With members representing all public schools in Alabama County.

2942
04:02:08,440 --> 04:02:11,380
And here's tonight's speaking personally on funding for schools.

2943
04:02:12,020 --> 04:02:13,300
First, operating budget.

2944
04:02:13,760 --> 04:02:17,660
High-quality public schools are expensive to run, as you know.

2945
04:02:17,660 --> 04:02:25,840
Sending about $20,000 per student is not actually unreasonable, especially given the high cost of living in Albuquerque County.

2946
04:02:26,420 --> 04:02:35,540
And the critical need to keep competitive with child-free city schools and others, for teacher salaries, compensation, working conditions,

2947
04:02:36,360 --> 04:02:43,600
like getting teachers short lunch and bathroom breaks that are negotiated in collective bargaining.

2948
04:02:43,600 --> 04:02:49,560
This is the shirt that I will recently enrichment to advocate for state funding.

2949
04:02:49,780 --> 04:02:51,760
It says, fund our schools.

2950
04:02:52,340 --> 04:02:57,600
Many of us elects the involuntary as well as students have worked really hard to ensure that

2951
04:02:57,600 --> 04:03:02,140
Album Oil County receives its fair share from the state.

2952
04:03:03,220 --> 04:03:08,480
But although the state CIP formula shifted for the daughter, you are proposing to withhold

2953
04:03:08,480 --> 04:03:11,700
6.4 million dollars and not a fan.

2954
04:03:11,700 --> 04:03:18,000
The county executives, the payables, to place that money, both this year and next in your hands,

2955
04:03:18,160 --> 04:03:24,580
the board of supervisors to stand as you see fit, which could be on schools, or maybe not.

2956
04:03:25,360 --> 04:03:29,480
Seems to me you're playing the game to four school leaders to reduce budgets, I got it.

2957
04:03:29,660 --> 04:03:34,160
But what you need to understand is that under the direction of the new chair and vice chair of the school board,

2958
04:03:34,660 --> 04:03:41,320
elected school leaders and members of the public, including myself, already asking an insane number of questions and getting answers.

2959
04:03:41,320 --> 04:03:46,660
it's different than past years. I urge you to let them do their jobs to come to you with a

2960
04:03:46,660 --> 04:03:51,660
need-based budget for so many kids and educators and to not withhold money that belongs to

2961
04:03:51,660 --> 04:03:57,740
the schools. Second, capital budget, I'm a mom, with an MBA, I see the financial situation

2962
04:03:57,740 --> 04:04:03,300
in the county of facing, I see many other vests behind me asking for important things, and here

2963
04:04:03,300 --> 04:04:08,320
my own, and I'm personally grateful to everyone of you for visiting schools in person this winter

2964
04:04:08,320 --> 04:04:13,600
with family counsel. What you saw are schools that have not been renovated in too many decades,

2965
04:04:13,780 --> 04:04:18,520
kids in temporary trailers, and schools that are bursting at the seams. The physical buildings

2966
04:04:18,520 --> 04:04:24,720
are homing, or kids ability to learn. These are not school buildings, but convince the future

2967
04:04:24,720 --> 04:04:31,220
us to re-locate here. I am worried. I ask all these school buildings that reflects the

2968
04:04:31,220 --> 04:04:37,440
community's commitment to children and families and teachers. I think not. So yes, I will

2969
04:04:37,440 --> 04:04:42,480
continue to advocate to the school board for efforts of use of operating budgets and a well-planned

2970
04:04:42,480 --> 04:04:48,660
capital imprisonment. But I also urge you as you go to your constituents in town halls to stop

2971
04:04:48,660 --> 04:04:55,180
the auspurses them of the two boards of adults and focus on the kids. We need you to build confidence

2972
04:04:55,180 --> 04:05:00,600
in our public school system, please, especially as we look towards a potential ballot in our

2973
04:05:00,600 --> 04:05:02,580
Thank you.

2974
04:05:04,490 --> 04:05:05,230
Carama Clark.

2975
04:05:13,660 --> 04:05:17,140
My name is Carama Clark, and I'm the Executive Director of the Women's Fellows.

2976
04:05:17,900 --> 04:05:21,360
We're building a multi-generational, although it is place-based at Penn Park.

2977
04:05:22,100 --> 04:05:25,700
The Women's Fellows is one of the community's third places,

2978
04:05:26,220 --> 04:05:31,780
public and welcome spaces that serve as essential, accessible community gathering spots for social

2979
04:05:31,780 --> 04:05:35,060
interaction, belonging, and physical and mental wellbeing.

2980
04:05:35,060 --> 04:05:46,920
I stand up for you tonight as though Bennett's mom and as the executive director to advocate for the recommended money in the CIP budget to help us build the next phase of Bennett's village, the central place space.

2981
04:05:47,720 --> 04:05:52,520
I grew up in a Mark County and my parents still living the same house that I grew up in.

2982
04:05:52,520 --> 04:05:56,980
Over the years we've had four or five generations of our family gathered together in

2983
04:05:56,980 --> 04:06:01,260
county and city parks for playday for the celebrate birthdays and anniversaries and holidays.

2984
04:06:02,040 --> 04:06:07,120
For five years, my son Bennett joined those celebrations as well as to describe parenting

2985
04:06:07,120 --> 04:06:11,780
great great parents who used walkers and other mobility devices. But he remembers final

2986
04:06:11,780 --> 04:06:16,320
muscular atrophy and used a parallel wheelchair to navigate the world. Unfortunately,

2987
04:06:16,660 --> 04:06:21,240
our community parks are not designed for kids or adults in real-chairs. They're not designed

2988
04:06:21,240 --> 04:06:22,600
For many community members,

2989
04:06:22,880 --> 04:06:24,040
there's with cochlear implants,

2990
04:06:24,500 --> 04:06:27,220
then three bigger changing tables require calm spaces.

2991
04:06:27,880 --> 04:06:29,480
They're not designed for those feedbacks

2992
04:06:29,480 --> 04:06:30,620
that's to electrical outlets

2993
04:06:30,620 --> 04:06:32,640
for medical communication purposes.

2994
04:06:33,100 --> 04:06:35,980
Those who are difficulty regulating body temperatures

2995
04:06:35,980 --> 04:06:37,620
can need additional bunches

2996
04:06:37,620 --> 04:06:39,080
in order to take free-grade breaks.

2997
04:06:39,660 --> 04:06:40,940
Many playgrounds use a butcher,

2998
04:06:41,260 --> 04:06:43,820
scrabbler, stand, making it difficult for a wheelchair,

2999
04:06:44,060 --> 04:06:45,580
strollers, and those who balance issues

3000
04:06:45,580 --> 04:06:46,440
to safely navigate.

3001
04:06:47,260 --> 04:06:49,180
We used to take that as part of a way to enrich

3002
04:06:49,180 --> 04:06:54,460
to an all-bodied playground where you can play independently with a Sponsor family, but the

3003
04:06:54,460 --> 04:06:59,320
amount for a place within his own community where the barriers for play could be lowered for

3004
04:06:59,320 --> 04:07:06,300
him and many others. But it died unexpectedly in 2018, but his dream of a place to play in our

3005
04:07:06,300 --> 04:07:12,540
community was all in the independent village. Many of you tonight have probably already experienced

3006
04:07:12,540 --> 04:07:17,160
the first phase of that dream, the treehouse of the independent village. I wonder how many

3007
04:07:17,160 --> 04:07:21,840
the audience have visited since we opened that project in January of last year, or have already

3008
04:07:21,840 --> 04:07:24,900
been part of Bennett's Village Programme, feel free to raise your hand.

3009
04:07:26,140 --> 04:07:30,120
The treehouse we are working on, now that the treehouse is complete, we're working on the central

3010
04:07:30,120 --> 04:07:33,220
place-based, which will feature the rest of the sense of design elements.

3011
04:07:33,760 --> 04:07:39,080
A ground level miracle bound slows up all abilities, choreo equipment for parents and caregivers

3012
04:07:39,080 --> 04:07:43,720
to get exercises well, a track that we could say to see for those of the rest

3013
04:07:43,720 --> 04:07:48,540
employing mobility or other medical needs, a free-style track to support safe-thrail seeking

3014
04:07:48,540 --> 04:07:54,280
movement, a climbing play tower with a concrete slide, concrete does not interfere with

3015
04:07:54,280 --> 04:07:59,080
popular elements, and an open area for a wet, wax station or group play.

3016
04:07:59,800 --> 04:08:04,300
Successful models of inclusive place spaces have significant financial investment from local

3017
04:08:04,300 --> 04:08:07,320
government resources in global private partnership.

3018
04:08:07,960 --> 04:08:12,760
Many of our potential funders, individuals, foundations and other government agencies, want

3019
04:08:12,760 --> 04:08:16,280
member about local support, please support us.

3020
04:08:18,020 --> 04:08:20,200
Reverend Susan Carlson.

3021
04:08:25,820 --> 04:08:27,260
My name is Susan Carlson.

3022
04:08:27,860 --> 04:08:30,660
I'm a member of the Unitarian Universal's Convigation

3023
04:08:30,660 --> 04:08:32,020
of Charlottesville.

3024
04:08:32,120 --> 04:08:34,360
I live in the White Hall District in Croze,

3025
04:08:35,200 --> 04:08:38,240
and I am one of the co-presidents of impact.

3026
04:08:39,640 --> 04:08:46,100
This year, impact will hold its namelay action on March 24th.

3027
04:08:46,100 --> 04:08:59,480
We're 1,400 people together together because we have all heard the need for $10 million a year for affordable housing in Album Marl County.

3028
04:09:00,620 --> 04:09:14,440
We're glad to have the majority of supervisors committed to attending the Nehemiah Action on March 24th and we're grateful that the current budget proposal allocates five

3029
04:09:14,440 --> 04:09:20,620
excuse me, 5 million this year to go towards the affordable housing investment fund.

3030
04:09:22,320 --> 04:09:29,580
Unfortunately, the housing crisis in our community is a huge problem that you well know

3031
04:09:29,580 --> 04:09:36,060
because you've heard about it every single year. It's a huge problem that's getting worse

3032
04:09:36,060 --> 04:09:44,220
every year. And how do we know that? We know that because we hold meetings in our congregations,

3033
04:09:44,220 --> 04:09:50,480
in our community, we hear the stories from people, as you've heard some today,

3034
04:09:52,800 --> 04:09:53,800
and so we

3035
04:09:53,800 --> 04:10:00,380
know that this is a huge problem that people cannot afford to live in Albuquerque, they

3036
04:10:00,380 --> 04:10:07,860
have to live far away from their jobs, from their healthcare, from their children's schools,

3037
04:10:07,860 --> 04:10:18,040
From there places where they have to take cars that may be can afford either that cost so much in gas these days.

3038
04:10:20,270 --> 04:10:24,430
We cannot abide by this moral travesty.

3039
04:10:25,450 --> 04:10:34,330
For we believe that a budget is a moral document, and this is getting worse and worse every single year.

3040
04:10:34,330 --> 04:10:41,550
It's hurting our people and we've heard it for the last eight years during testimonies at the Nehemiah action.

3041
04:10:42,190 --> 04:10:43,470
You've heard it too.

3042
04:10:43,870 --> 04:10:53,930
I cannot urge you strongly enough to fully support the investment fund so that the housing crisis doesn't blossom and blame me even more.

3043
04:10:55,630 --> 04:11:01,450
This crisis requires bold leadership, commitment, and action.

3044
04:11:01,450 --> 04:11:09,690
And we believe that you, our supervisors have the moral authority and the will to change

3045
04:11:09,690 --> 04:11:15,230
this through the budget, and we'll support you as you do it.

3046
04:11:15,830 --> 04:11:16,670
Thank you.

3047
04:11:16,730 --> 04:11:17,710
Thank you.

3048
04:11:18,490 --> 04:11:19,760
Jane Colony Mills.

3049
04:11:27,680 --> 04:11:28,240
Good evening.

3050
04:11:29,480 --> 04:11:33,990
I'm Jane Colony Mills, I'm a resident of the Whitehall District and Executive Director of

3051
04:11:33,990 --> 04:11:39,130
officials in the Jack Jout district, here to say thank you but also to help raise awareness

3052
04:11:39,130 --> 04:11:45,170
of the affordability crisis in our community. With Admiral Kennedy's first ever funding

3053
04:11:45,170 --> 04:11:51,190
for loaves and fishes in the FY26 budget, we've provided a week's worth of free, healthy

3054
04:11:51,190 --> 04:11:56,610
groceries, customized for dietary restrictions, cooking and storage capacity and cultural

3055
04:11:56,610 --> 04:12:02,430
preferences to nearly 97,000 people since July 1, 2025.

3056
04:12:03,690 --> 04:12:10,130
50% of those people are Al-Mau County children, adults, and seniors, more than 6,000

3057
04:12:10,130 --> 04:12:12,170
at Mau County residents each month.

3058
04:12:14,390 --> 04:12:17,570
The meeting is growing 13% over the previous year.

3059
04:12:18,530 --> 04:12:25,590
Al-Mau County's F-Li-26, $40,000 CIP grant allowed loads and fishes to replace a 13-year-old

3060
04:12:25,590 --> 04:12:28,570
walk in freezer with a safer, more efficient unit,

3061
04:12:28,990 --> 04:12:31,830
expanding our capacity to store healthy frozen foods

3062
04:12:31,830 --> 04:12:33,270
and feed more people.

3063
04:12:34,370 --> 04:12:36,350
The freezer replacement project is actually

3064
04:12:36,350 --> 04:12:38,670
a testament to the power of community partnerships

3065
04:12:39,170 --> 04:12:41,250
with funding from Al-Molk County,

3066
04:12:41,950 --> 04:12:43,990
the Bill of J.A. Friedbank, the Paris Foundation

3067
04:12:43,990 --> 04:12:45,930
and four individual family donors

3068
04:12:46,350 --> 04:12:49,610
and the construction management by the building goodness foundation.

3069
04:12:50,770 --> 04:12:52,430
Those businesses was able to demolish

3070
04:12:52,430 --> 04:12:53,870
and remove the original freezer,

3071
04:12:53,870 --> 04:12:59,170
excavate the concrete floor, insulate the footprint beneath the new freezer, pour and cure

3072
04:12:59,170 --> 04:13:04,770
a new concrete pad, install a new freezer and cooling equipment, upgrade electricity and drainage

3073
04:13:04,770 --> 04:13:11,030
systems to eliminate condensation issues and bring the new freezer fully online while only

3074
04:13:11,030 --> 04:13:17,370
missing six-fig distributions. But we were quickly back to providing the critical safety-made

3075
04:13:17,370 --> 04:13:20,650
that fetuses because insecure food,

3076
04:13:20,650 --> 04:13:22,550
a thinned, secure, out-of-mouth county residents

3077
04:13:22,550 --> 04:13:25,090
rely on us for their monthly food.

3078
04:13:26,870 --> 04:13:28,950
And very grateful for our mock- County support

3079
04:13:28,950 --> 04:13:31,490
for what we do, and that Mr. Richardson

3080
04:13:31,490 --> 04:13:33,810
in the County Finance budget have proposed

3081
04:13:33,810 --> 04:13:37,090
a 7.3% increase in funding for words and dishes.

3082
04:13:37,850 --> 04:13:40,290
The largest direct to the public free food

3083
04:13:40,290 --> 04:13:42,050
distributor in our community.

3084
04:13:42,870 --> 04:13:44,750
I hope the Board of Superfoges will improve,

3085
04:13:44,750 --> 04:13:45,970
improve this increase.

3086
04:13:46,710 --> 04:13:53,070
And I want to thank you for partnering with us to increase access to healthy culturally appropriate food for our neighbors.

3087
04:13:55,490 --> 04:13:56,990
Thank you.

3088
04:13:57,790 --> 04:13:58,090
Michael Monaco.

3089
04:14:10,450 --> 04:14:11,590
My name is Michael Monaco.

3090
04:14:11,850 --> 04:14:13,990
I live in the White Hole District in Croze.

3091
04:14:14,910 --> 04:14:17,450
And personally I want to pay a little more in taxes.

3092
04:14:19,750 --> 04:14:22,830
Like many of my neighbors, I'm here to speak about the affordable housing investment fund.

3093
04:14:23,950 --> 04:14:28,090
I think what to fund is, bit by bit, struggling to live or staggering to life.

3094
04:14:28,090 --> 04:14:39,990
Notwithstanding today's decision to bounce a approval of 3.6 million in grants and loans to the next board of supervisors meeting we are finally seeing the fruits of having an actual fund with an actual governing policy.

3095
04:14:40,750 --> 04:14:46,150
But the investment fund will always be weaker without strong dedicated funding.

3096
04:14:46,930 --> 04:14:54,590
I have several supervisors earlier today expressed a desire to see the fund spend down entirely every year to make a list of our budgeted dollars.

3097
04:14:54,590 --> 04:14:59,970
I will support that choice and need an Oriolea in the evidence and it's just a matter of connecting that

3098
04:15:00,080 --> 04:15:21,840
We need two dollars with a coherent application process. But I only see one point three million dollars in dedicated funding for the foreseeable future. Without reliable year after year funding, I worry that we won't discourage the long range and long range and large-scale investments in affordable housing that we really desperately need.

3099
04:15:21,840 --> 04:15:25,440
I recognize, too, that our obligations do continue to grow.

3100
04:15:25,820 --> 04:15:28,160
I do not envy the set of choices ahead of you.

3101
04:15:28,360 --> 04:15:32,220
I know, too, the pressure that you receive to keep assessments in real estate taxes

3102
04:15:32,220 --> 04:15:32,620
low.

3103
04:15:33,500 --> 04:15:38,380
But I see what my neighbors in the City of Charlottesville pay as their tax rate, it's more

3104
04:15:38,380 --> 04:15:38,900
than me.

3105
04:15:39,740 --> 04:15:44,260
I see what my city neighbors pay into affordable housing, more than me.

3106
04:15:45,000 --> 04:15:49,440
And I think about how few people I know who can accurately tell you exactly where the

3107
04:15:49,440 --> 04:15:52,040
and the county begins around our boundaries.

3108
04:15:53,460 --> 04:15:55,060
I think about how the tents,

3109
04:15:55,660 --> 04:15:57,260
at the free and branch encampment,

3110
04:15:57,760 --> 04:15:58,880
might sit in the city,

3111
04:15:59,380 --> 04:16:01,560
but look right over 200 feet to the county.

3112
04:16:02,500 --> 04:16:04,420
We are one community.

3113
04:16:05,240 --> 04:16:07,160
This is why I'm asking you to consider

3114
04:16:07,160 --> 04:16:09,820
a one-cent real estate tax,

3115
04:16:10,840 --> 04:16:13,200
dedicated entirely to affordable housing.

3116
04:16:14,340 --> 04:16:16,460
I believe that a one set increase this year

3117
04:16:16,460 --> 04:16:18,740
would come out to a little over 3.3 million

3118
04:16:18,740 --> 04:16:24,060
revenue, which will bring the overall total when you include the projected cable over from FY26

3119
04:16:24,060 --> 04:16:32,080
to about 9.78 and FY27. That one set increase for the median homeowner in Al-Mala County

3120
04:16:32,080 --> 04:16:39,400
would cost them four dollars a month. Personally speaking for myself, I would rather pay an extra

3121
04:16:39,400 --> 04:16:44,400
four dollars a month to contribute to a $10 million affordable housing investment fund.

3122
04:16:44,940 --> 04:16:51,760
I believe that this budget, a moral document, should reflect the needs and priorities of the people of service.

3123
04:16:52,640 --> 04:16:57,540
I know there are thousands of families who are living on the thin line, burdened by the cost of rent,

3124
04:16:58,060 --> 04:17:02,680
thousands of my neighbors who are not sure where they will lay their head next month or even tomorrow.

3125
04:17:03,300 --> 04:17:10,840
I know what I am asking for tonight. I am asking for permission to pay about $4 more in taxes or a month

3126
04:17:10,840 --> 04:17:15,120
in order that my government might serve, my neighbors. Thank you.

3127
04:17:15,340 --> 04:17:17,580
Thank you. Francis, leave and delve.

3128
04:17:36,960 --> 04:17:40,400
Also, live in Whitehall. I'm Francis, leave and delve.

3129
04:17:41,100 --> 04:17:46,500
And I often speak for more low income housing in Alabama,

3130
04:17:47,000 --> 04:17:49,640
probably since the Maddie's.

3131
04:17:50,000 --> 04:17:55,900
Charlottesville carries the bulk of the housing that we have,

3132
04:17:55,900 --> 04:18:01,900
And they're doing well with it. I visit these

3133
04:18:04,440 --> 04:18:08,980
the crossings, the cross, the crossings.

3134
04:18:09,960 --> 04:18:21,680
And the people are very grateful for being able to live there and they take good care of their facilities.

3135
04:18:21,680 --> 04:18:37,220
I'd also like to say that Apple Mall puts 10% of its development of its land into development.

3136
04:18:40,350 --> 04:18:53,090
50% of that is in the private market and the people who own the 50% do not want to develop it.

3137
04:18:53,090 --> 04:19:07,170
So we're left with 5% off and there's a need possibly, I think, you should consider it

3138
04:19:07,170 --> 04:19:17,090
of broadening the development area, because I don't know how we're going to find housing.

3139
04:19:20,080 --> 04:19:21,240
Thank you.

3140
04:19:22,340 --> 04:19:22,960
Thank you.

3141
04:19:26,260 --> 04:19:27,460
Theresa Willis.

3142
04:19:39,330 --> 04:19:40,390
Good evening.

3143
04:19:41,930 --> 04:19:45,850
My name is Teresa Willis and I'm from the Rio District.

3144
04:19:47,710 --> 04:19:54,470
I serve as a Board of Directors Member of Footheels Children's Advocacy Center.

3145
04:19:55,630 --> 04:20:08,730
I'm here to express both appreciation and concern regarding the proposed FY27 allocation of 97,000

3146
04:20:08,730 --> 04:20:11,530
$527 for foothills.

3147
04:20:12,570 --> 04:20:20,550
It's a 5% increase over last year, which we appreciate, but it does not adequately reflect

3148
04:20:20,550 --> 04:20:28,330
the scope of the work of foothills staff in a essential role of Alvin Mall's child abuse

3149
04:20:28,330 --> 04:20:29,790
response system.

3150
04:20:31,610 --> 04:20:39,330
The children's advocacy centers in Virginia are codified in the code of Virginia as part

3151
04:20:39,330 --> 04:20:44,370
the commonwealth's response to child abuse and neglect.

3152
04:20:45,590 --> 04:20:50,750
We are embedded in the crimes against children in investigative process.

3153
04:20:51,730 --> 04:20:59,570
Foothills serves as a neutral child-focused location where forensic interviews are conducted

3154
04:20:59,570 --> 04:21:08,050
on-site medical examinations for conducted, family advocacy takes place and multi-disciplinary

3155
04:21:08,050 --> 04:21:19,500
18 case reviews occur when a child discloses abuse, law enforcement, the Department of Social

3156
04:21:19,500 --> 04:21:27,160
Services, and the Commonwealth's attorney rely on Alfred Hill's team to coordinate the

3157
04:21:27,160 --> 04:21:28,780
investigative process.

3158
04:21:30,160 --> 04:21:38,180
Yet, for hills is the only investigative partner in that system that is not fully publicly funded.

3159
04:21:38,180 --> 04:21:47,960
law enforcement is funded, DSS is funded, the Commonwealth Attorney's Office is funded, but

3160
04:21:47,960 --> 04:21:50,160
although we're embedded, we're not.

3161
04:21:50,560 --> 04:21:58,240
For FY27, the Projected Costs to serve album-owned children and facilitate this work for

3162
04:21:58,240 --> 04:22:03,080
is $35,137.

3163
04:22:04,120 --> 04:22:07,820
We are requesting just a portion of that,

3164
04:22:08,020 --> 04:22:11,280
which is $130,000.

3165
04:22:12,240 --> 04:22:16,740
And this will help to ensure children continue to receive timely,

3166
04:22:17,680 --> 04:22:21,600
forensic interviews, coordinated medical care,

3167
04:22:22,000 --> 04:22:27,960
strong family advocacy, and effective multi-disciplinarian team reviews.

3168
04:22:30,280 --> 04:22:34,320
We thank you for your continued commitment to protecting

3169
04:22:34,320 --> 04:22:39,920
children in Albumo County, and we welcome to meet with you

3170
04:22:39,920 --> 04:22:48,880
individually to provide, to provide additional data to answer questions about this.

3171
04:22:49,200 --> 04:22:49,440
Thank you.

3172
04:22:49,680 --> 04:22:51,260
Thank you.

3173
04:22:51,420 --> 04:22:52,480
Richard Fox,

3174
04:22:59,360 --> 04:23:01,060
Richard Fox, Jack, you a district.

3175
04:23:01,780 --> 04:23:05,140
This may come as a surprise to some of you all, but we actually have a long

3176
04:23:05,140 --> 04:23:07,300
common and we can agree on a lot.

3177
04:23:07,540 --> 04:23:11,980
That I commend you for your approach to community development and your business sense.

3178
04:23:12,320 --> 04:23:16,140
We first met, but I was working a table for Dave Moore's election day.

3179
04:23:16,480 --> 04:23:18,600
That also may surprise some of you guys up there.

3180
04:23:18,720 --> 04:23:19,760
There's a good friend.

3181
04:23:20,260 --> 04:23:22,820
But what you've done and I've listened to that approach for community,

3182
04:23:23,460 --> 04:23:25,820
really doesn't mean a lot to them and it's gone a long way

3183
04:23:25,820 --> 04:23:30,420
and going some trust there between local farmers and the board.

3184
04:23:30,760 --> 04:23:34,000
Sally, I look forward to working with you as my representative in June.

3185
04:23:34,000 --> 04:23:37,900
I really think we can work together and I'm excited for our first start in that district.

3186
04:23:38,400 --> 04:23:43,680
Be, we can other way of having a thing to work on until now, but I look forward to working with you.

3187
04:23:44,300 --> 04:23:51,960
Mr. Missile, let us speak highly of you. I like your background and I like what you've had to say about working on some community development projects,

3188
04:23:52,320 --> 04:23:56,120
moving some possible way of tape, if it means getting the white projects put forward.

3189
04:23:56,600 --> 04:24:01,980
I think that's going to open up a lot of great projects, even from some people who find the nature they can't afford to bring stuff

3190
04:24:01,980 --> 04:24:05,240
through the general process of getting those involved in the sub-cut.

3191
04:24:05,820 --> 04:24:11,900
And, you know, I land a campaign against you, but I commend you and I respect the daylights

3192
04:24:11,900 --> 04:24:17,060
and I would appreciate everything you brought to this book, a really last 12, 16-plus years.

3193
04:24:18,040 --> 04:24:20,680
And you've been a staple on here, and I commend you for that.

3194
04:24:21,260 --> 04:24:23,280
And I think we can work together on other things too.

3195
04:24:23,540 --> 04:24:28,320
I think one thing I want to start working on and have an open mind and open conversation

3196
04:24:28,320 --> 04:24:32,700
about. There's a writing issue in the agreement and how we can bring some of those funds back

3197
04:24:32,700 --> 04:24:38,260
into the county and how we can help specific county clauses. We could help the housing budget.

3198
04:24:38,640 --> 04:24:43,800
We could help the health of the wife, one fair budget. We could avoid tax increases in the

3199
04:24:43,800 --> 04:24:48,900
future. I'm not saying a new thing. I mean, I would love it if we did personally, but I understand

3200
04:24:48,900 --> 04:24:52,540
we made a commitment. We have an agreement. We have to follow up with a certain extent,

3201
04:24:52,700 --> 04:24:57,300
but we should at least be willing to have a conversation and an open mind about what we could

3202
04:24:57,300 --> 04:25:04,300
to renegotiate, get out of it, whatever, but something on board and just collectively have

3203
04:25:04,300 --> 04:25:05,100
positive thought.

3204
04:25:05,220 --> 04:25:06,500
And I think we can achieve that.

3205
04:25:06,540 --> 04:25:10,160
I look forward to working with you all on that in the coming weeks and meeting with

3206
04:25:10,160 --> 04:25:10,460
y'all.

3207
04:25:10,600 --> 04:25:11,780
And emailing all about that topic.

3208
04:25:12,140 --> 04:25:13,120
Thank you.

3209
04:25:13,360 --> 04:25:13,940
Thank you.

3210
04:25:14,240 --> 04:25:14,840
Thank you.

3211
04:25:15,180 --> 04:25:16,200
Karen, man.

3212
04:25:21,630 --> 04:25:21,770
Hi.

3213
04:25:21,790 --> 04:25:22,750
My name is Kim, man.

3214
04:25:23,230 --> 04:25:26,630
I am a new resident of Admiral County in the Scottsville District.

3215
04:25:27,130 --> 04:25:29,830
I'm also the pastor of Surgeoner's United Church of Christ.

3216
04:25:29,830 --> 04:25:34,090
My congregation is one of the many congregations that participate in impact.

3217
04:25:34,730 --> 04:25:43,350
We've also been active in touching for many years and had the privilege of hosting the men for two weeks at the beginning of this winter shelter season in November.

3218
04:25:44,050 --> 04:25:50,670
We're honored to make this commitment every year because we believe that caring for our poor and on how his neighbors is central to our faith.

3219
04:25:51,590 --> 04:25:55,990
But as much as we are honored to host our neighbors, experiencing homelessness every year,

3220
04:25:55,990 --> 04:26:01,290
We also believe that everyone should have access to affordable housing, not simply temporary shelter.

3221
04:26:01,950 --> 04:26:09,870
We believe that justice requires not only to meet our neighbors and meet it needs, but to change the systems that perpetuate those needs in the first place.

3222
04:26:10,410 --> 04:26:17,090
So I'm here with other folks from impact this evening to ask you to commit to that $10 million for the county's housing fund.

3223
04:26:17,090 --> 04:26:23,210
I mentioned that I am a new resident of Amol, we just moved, we bought a new house in January.

3224
04:26:23,870 --> 04:26:30,010
It took a lot of fancy financial footwork to make that happen and we are definitely feeling the pinch now.

3225
04:26:30,550 --> 04:26:39,010
But I recognize that we carry an immense amount of privilege to make that move happen even with the high cost of housing here.

3226
04:26:39,370 --> 04:26:40,630
But not all of my neighbors.

3227
04:26:40,630 --> 04:26:44,530
Not even all of my parishioners are able to afford to live here.

3228
04:26:44,870 --> 04:26:48,290
Just this evening, I met with a couple that I am marrying next month.

3229
04:26:48,730 --> 04:26:52,490
They would love to stay in this area to be close to their jobs and their community.

3230
04:26:52,970 --> 04:26:56,690
But even after they combine their two incomes, they are having to look further

3231
04:26:56,690 --> 04:26:59,870
and further out to find something they can even remotely afford.

3232
04:27:00,710 --> 04:27:02,710
We need affordable housing, you know this.

3233
04:27:02,710 --> 04:27:08,830
And not affordable a name only, we need deeply affordable housing that is safe and accessible

3234
04:27:08,830 --> 04:27:14,030
for all residents of our community, with the living cuts to basic social safety nets,

3235
04:27:14,270 --> 04:27:19,070
more and more of our neighbors will be at risk of losing their homes, or we'll be unable

3236
04:27:19,070 --> 04:27:24,330
to continue to live in this area, and many of our wealthy neighbors will not be able to find

3237
04:27:24,330 --> 04:27:29,250
affordable housing in our community, our well-being is found up with the well-being of all

3238
04:27:29,250 --> 04:27:35,330
our neighbors regardless of their economic status. We cannot enjoy the beauty and peace of our

3239
04:27:35,330 --> 04:27:41,370
community. I cannot enjoy the beauty and peace of mind you home. Until all of our residents and neighbors

3240
04:27:41,370 --> 04:27:46,910
are able to live in beauty and peace in a home that they can afford. And we have to do it in a way

3241
04:27:46,910 --> 04:27:53,050
that centers the voices, needs and dignity of those who are most directly impacted by the lack of affordable

3242
04:27:53,050 --> 04:27:57,410
Thank you. Thank you. Tom Eckman.

3243
04:28:10,020 --> 04:28:14,800
I'm Tom Eckman. I'm from New York. I've been working

3244
04:28:14,800 --> 04:28:22,600
on affordable housing for a long time, and I really believe that the real need for housing

3245
04:28:22,600 --> 04:28:27,060
is for people at lower income. That's where the biggest shortage is,

3246
04:28:31,680 --> 04:28:33,000
and that's where the biggest

3247
04:28:33,000 --> 04:28:36,800
time to be working. I'm a little glad that we're finally getting it started.

3248
04:28:38,960 --> 04:28:39,460
But during

3249
04:28:39,460 --> 04:28:46,160
our 80 years, I'd last about six numbers in my church that needed affordable housing,

3250
04:28:46,560 --> 04:28:53,960
but they couldn't get it. We've got too many luxury apartments. We are my lower rent incomes.

3251
04:28:54,540 --> 04:29:00,940
And the best way to do is with a housing trust fund, because if you can take it 10 million dollars

3252
04:29:00,940 --> 04:29:09,660
and leverage it up to eight times, and what is a good investment for you all because now

3253
04:29:09,660 --> 04:29:15,120
all of it is all of a sudden we put 10 million dollars in the level to do it by eight times,

3254
04:29:15,640 --> 04:29:19,760
and what gives you a return on investment because now you're going to do it from taxation,

3255
04:29:20,140 --> 04:29:26,480
from that, in addition, and it's going to create homes for the people who need it the most.

3256
04:29:27,860 --> 04:29:40,400
I think our budget is like 5.1 million dollars or whatever it is, but 10 million dollars is 2% of that budget.

3257
04:29:40,960 --> 04:29:43,680
You got 15% grant for the schools.

3258
04:29:44,240 --> 04:29:48,340
Most of the income coming into our budget is coming from real estate.

3259
04:29:48,920 --> 04:29:54,540
And we can't afford to million dollars to help the people that need it the most.

3260
04:29:54,540 --> 04:29:59,980
I think we need to find that $10,000 and we're currently using some people at the end of the company.

3261
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:14,700
I think we've got a great place here and we've got a lot of reals in our community, so I encourage you to put 10 million dollars in the housing trust fund. Thank you.

3262
04:30:15,940 --> 04:30:17,980
Thank you. Thank you. Tannis for?

3263
04:30:30,590 --> 04:30:33,830
We'll look at this fancy. Nothing down, this is your ace.

3264
04:30:36,570 --> 04:30:37,890
Good evening, Members of the Board.

3265
04:30:38,050 --> 04:30:39,030
My name is Tana Sveller.

3266
04:30:39,250 --> 04:30:43,710
I live in the Scott Stold District, and I'm here as a resident and the Director of Administration

3267
04:30:43,710 --> 04:30:45,690
for Phil's Children's Advocacy Center.

3268
04:30:46,730 --> 04:30:50,970
I'd like to thank you for the support that you have given to the CAC over the years, and as

3269
04:30:50,970 --> 04:30:55,730
the Board begins the budget review process now, I asked that you reconsider the proposed grant

3270
04:30:55,730 --> 04:31:01,890
award to Phil's, and I look at it in the FY27 budget and increase it to our requested

3271
04:31:01,890 --> 04:31:02,330
amount.

3272
04:31:03,130 --> 04:31:11,350
One young person, a child or a teen, has or is suspected to have been a victim or survivor of a crime, physical or sexual abuse,

3273
04:31:12,010 --> 04:31:14,390
there are four key players in the investigative process.

3274
04:31:15,330 --> 04:31:20,870
Law enforcement, the Department of Social Services, the Commonwealth's Attorney and Children's Advocacy Centers.

3275
04:31:22,110 --> 04:31:29,590
For two decades, law enforcement, DSS and the CA have relied on foothills to provide a neutral child-focused location

3276
04:31:29,590 --> 04:31:35,470
or children and teens receive an age-appropriate trauma-informed forensic interview conducted

3277
04:31:35,470 --> 04:31:37,950
by specialized trained interviewers.

3278
04:31:38,610 --> 04:31:43,790
We also provide forensic medical exams, perform medical experts, and conjunction with UVA.

3279
04:31:44,830 --> 04:31:49,410
Care Day was benefit from family advocacy and referrals to community resources that happened

3280
04:31:49,410 --> 04:31:54,410
concurrently with the forensic interview in the medical exam, and I worked directly

3281
04:31:54,410 --> 04:31:59,330
strengthens criminal investigations, protects evidence integrity, and supports successful

3282
04:32:00,350 --> 04:32:01,790
prosecutions outcomes.

3283
04:32:02,890 --> 04:32:07,290
I'll be a little bit of what my colleague Theresa noted, Virginia Code requires that each

3284
04:32:07,290 --> 04:32:12,110
jurisdiction in the Commonwealth establish a multi-disciplinary team to conduct regular

3285
04:32:12,110 --> 04:32:18,410
reviews of new and ongoing reports of sexual assault involving a child, including child

3286
04:32:18,410 --> 04:32:19,410
abuse or neglect.

3287
04:32:19,410 --> 04:32:26,490
The code additionally requires that participation of four agencies, that have also attorney,

3288
04:32:26,750 --> 04:32:30,770
law enforcement, Department of Social Services, and Children's Advocacy Centers.

3289
04:32:31,950 --> 04:32:35,310
Unfortunately, only three of those agencies are fully publicly funded.

3290
04:32:35,950 --> 04:32:38,250
Photos Children's Advocacy Center is not.

3291
04:32:41,130 --> 04:32:47,550
Physically or 27, the projected cost to serve the approximately 85 children we anticipate seeing

3292
04:32:47,550 --> 04:32:50,890
From Albumal County is an excess of $350,000.

3293
04:32:51,570 --> 04:32:54,450
We have requested $130,000 from the county,

3294
04:32:54,990 --> 04:32:57,750
and hope that the Board of Supervisors understand the critical role

3295
04:32:57,750 --> 04:33:01,410
that we play in ensuring that young people continue to receive the support

3296
04:33:01,410 --> 04:33:02,910
and the services that we offer.

3297
04:33:03,490 --> 04:33:04,410
Thank you for your time.

3298
04:33:05,170 --> 04:33:05,550
Thank you.

3299
04:33:08,420 --> 04:33:09,660
Hey, be a Peggy.

3300
04:33:10,240 --> 04:33:11,300
Gilgis. Gilgis.

3301
04:33:18,680 --> 04:33:20,220
You got that right, Fred.

3302
04:33:21,060 --> 04:33:21,500
You got that right.

3303
04:33:22,100 --> 04:33:24,860
You got that right, Fred.

3304
04:33:24,860 --> 04:33:32,080
at district. I'm here the city to ask that you give more attention and more support to sustainability

3305
04:33:32,080 --> 04:33:39,020
in your planning and budgeting. Sustainability is defined as meeting the needs of the present

3306
04:33:39,020 --> 04:33:46,860
without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their needs. I agree with Tom Olivier

3307
04:33:46,860 --> 04:33:53,500
that sustainability deserves a higher profile within county government operations and should be

3308
04:33:53,500 --> 04:33:59,480
own department, similar to the Office of Sustainability in the City of Charlottesville.

3309
04:34:00,820 --> 04:34:06,480
Listening to the initial budget meeting from February, I heard much more emphasis on economic

3310
04:34:06,480 --> 04:34:13,320
development than on conservation or climate action. I don't think I'm alone in bullying

3311
04:34:13,320 --> 04:34:20,020
that the population grows that economic development brings affects our sustainability.

3312
04:34:20,960 --> 04:34:28,640
environmental impacts and big infrastructure expenditures come with growth and you know as

3313
04:34:28,640 --> 04:34:35,760
example there's some eye-popping expenditures in the fiscal year 27 budget including I think

3314
04:34:35,760 --> 04:34:44,360
10 million of the 42 million that's required to build boaters road extension and in next few years

3315
04:34:44,360 --> 04:34:48,600
$250 million investment in a new high school.

3316
04:34:49,560 --> 04:34:53,860
The budget also proposes more regular investment.

3317
04:34:54,620 --> 04:34:57,400
I'm not making judgments about these investments.

3318
04:34:57,600 --> 04:35:02,300
I'm just saying $5 million toward affordable housing

3319
04:35:02,300 --> 04:35:04,760
and 4 million toward economic development.

3320
04:35:05,640 --> 04:35:09,040
By contrast, the climate protection department

3321
04:35:09,040 --> 04:35:21,280
is budgeted to receive a relatively puny $300,000 and the ACE conservation program has not been funded for several years now.

3322
04:35:21,560 --> 04:35:31,740
Meanwhile, humanity has crossed seven of nine crucial planetary boundaries, causing dramatic changes to our climate,

3323
04:35:31,740 --> 04:35:41,480
putting to our biodiversity levels of pollution, land use, fresh water and oceans, putting the

3324
04:35:41,480 --> 04:35:44,760
ecosystems that support us at risk globally.

3325
04:35:46,180 --> 04:35:50,980
So, at the end of that year in Album Oil, we really need to do our part to prevent compromising

3326
04:35:50,980 --> 04:35:56,880
the ability of future generations to have a good quality of life and a habitable planet.

3327
04:35:56,880 --> 04:36:07,960
We have a climate action plan, a biodiversity action plan, a street health initiative, a plan to create a real area plan.

3328
04:36:08,720 --> 04:36:16,020
And I just think that a standalone sustainability department could advance these interrelated plans together.

3329
04:36:17,360 --> 04:36:22,540
So please consider this as you discussed the county's future planning and budgeting.

3330
04:36:23,580 --> 04:36:24,500
Thank you.

3331
04:36:24,540 --> 04:36:25,660
Thank you.

3332
04:36:25,800 --> 04:36:26,640
Phil Rees?

3333
04:36:37,690 --> 04:36:38,310
Who was with the world?

3334
04:36:38,590 --> 04:36:41,570
My name is Phil Rees, and I live in the right handed district.

3335
04:36:42,810 --> 04:36:48,050
My chief concern about this budget is that it is 13.5% more than last year's budget.

3336
04:36:48,970 --> 04:36:56,750
I've now heard this presentation twice, and I still have not heard that this budget is an increase of 13.5% year than year.

3337
04:36:56,750 --> 04:37:03,810
With inflation at 2.7%, do you think it is reasonable to have a budget that is rising

3338
04:37:03,810 --> 04:37:07,230
five times faster than the rate of inflation?

3339
04:37:07,810 --> 04:37:12,610
I appreciate the current executives I have not too increased the real property tax rate.

3340
04:37:13,190 --> 04:37:16,050
There's a lot to talk about this budget being balanced.

3341
04:37:16,850 --> 04:37:22,310
But in order to do that, it requires adding 49 million in debt and taking 7 million

3342
04:37:22,310 --> 04:37:23,710
from the use of fund balance.

3343
04:37:25,030 --> 04:37:30,090
We can detect spares, take on this much debt, it puts out stress on future budgets.

3344
04:37:30,810 --> 04:37:35,950
For next year's budget loan, we've debt service will cost $40 million for both school

3345
04:37:35,950 --> 04:37:40,330
and county government debt service, and the county executives sort of are here tonight that

3346
04:37:40,330 --> 04:37:42,990
this figure of mine is going to continue to increase.

3347
04:37:43,810 --> 04:37:48,970
If I recall correctly from the last week's presentation, debt service will double in five

3348
04:37:48,970 --> 04:37:49,410
years.

3349
04:37:50,330 --> 04:37:57,570
Every dollar spent on debt service is a dollar that can't go to new classrooms, public safety, or tax relief.

3350
04:37:58,410 --> 04:38:05,350
We need a clear plan to slow borrowing. You have building financial obligations that will long outlast this board.

3351
04:38:06,050 --> 04:38:14,310
Rising debt service is diminishing future flexibility and increasing the productivity that future boards will face a choice between cutting core services

3352
04:38:14,310 --> 04:38:18,470
we're raising real estate taxes, and this is not a sustainable path.

3353
04:38:20,360 --> 04:38:22,540
I wanted to give you awesome credit where I think it is due.

3354
04:38:22,700 --> 04:38:26,020
Your financial policies and the other outlets who continue holding

3355
04:38:26,020 --> 04:38:27,960
is triple triple A bond rating.

3356
04:38:28,780 --> 04:38:30,780
Thank you for having that part of your financial policy.

3357
04:38:31,040 --> 04:38:33,300
That indeed doesn't surely get low interest rates.

3358
04:38:34,340 --> 04:38:38,460
But at the same time, you have not been seeking to get the lowest interest rates possible.

3359
04:38:39,660 --> 04:38:42,240
And you really need to do what is through general obligation loans.

3360
04:38:42,240 --> 04:38:48,660
I'd ask the agency to consider using general organization loans going for it so that our county can get the lowest interest rates possible.

3361
04:38:49,380 --> 04:38:51,700
Why would the board not want to save money in this way?

3362
04:38:52,620 --> 04:38:58,640
Lastly, I think the county needs to seriously consider options to change the revenue sharing agreement with the city of Schroesville.

3363
04:38:59,680 --> 04:39:06,400
I understand that both parties need to grade to a change, but this is causing outlaw to expose to $20 million a year in rising.

3364
04:39:06,400 --> 04:39:13,380
I consider putting the money in an escrow account, let the city take us to court, force the city to come to the negotiating table.

3365
04:39:13,540 --> 04:39:22,520
To me, I doubt that any law for sponsor legislation, that will not only revolution the agreements, we know that the annexing of land is under a more internal.

3366
04:39:23,340 --> 04:39:26,380
These are just a few ideas I keep up with in the last couple hours.

3367
04:39:27,060 --> 04:39:30,400
By creating,

3368
04:39:33,250 --> 04:39:37,130
I should hope, but accounting is not under the sea,

3369
04:39:37,130 --> 04:39:39,330
Well, we're showing agreement 40 years from now.

3370
04:39:39,570 --> 04:39:40,250
Thank you.

3371
04:39:42,520 --> 04:39:44,520
And last on our list is Rebecca Brown.

3372
04:39:50,990 --> 04:39:53,230
Doesn't that appear as Rebecca Brown here?

3373
04:39:55,480 --> 04:39:55,680
All right.

3374
04:39:56,140 --> 04:39:56,560
Thank you.

3375
04:39:56,700 --> 04:39:57,620
That concludes our list.

3376
04:39:58,080 --> 04:39:59,280
And there was no online, correct?

3377
04:39:59,620 --> 04:40:00,180
No, no.

3378
04:40:00,180 --> 04:40:00,480
Awesome.

3379
04:40:01,260 --> 04:40:01,440
All right.

3380
04:40:01,560 --> 04:40:04,420
Thank you for everyone who came out to give the speaking.

3381
04:40:04,660 --> 04:40:10,060
We will close the public hearing, but we're going to come back to the board for comments, questions.

3382
04:40:11,800 --> 04:40:16,240
So you're welcome to stay and listen to us chat if you'd like, but you also, not that we

3383
04:40:16,240 --> 04:40:21,840
can see the yellow getting up to, to, to, to, to, to, to. I'm just going to go through our order.

3384
04:40:22,420 --> 04:40:28,360
Uh, for additional, this would be everything, guys. This is, uh, comments, questions, reactions,

3385
04:40:28,400 --> 04:40:31,460
anything you heard tonight to kind of set up our work sessions. Supervisor Pro.

3386
04:40:32,420 --> 04:40:40,600
Um, I'm not sure I have much, substantively to add. Although I will just mention, we had more than one person mentioned revenue sharing.

3387
04:40:40,600 --> 04:40:47,900
I think it goes without saying that as someone who represents the county about moral, I would love it if we were not

3388
04:40:47,900 --> 04:40:51,960
beholden to a revenue sharing agreement. That would significantly expand our taxing authority.

3389
04:40:54,000 --> 04:40:59,180
As an amateur lawyer, not the county attorney, but as a lawyer, I can't think a way to

3390
04:40:59,180 --> 04:41:07,120
riggle out of it unilaterally. And that includes legislation. Any legislation would almost certainly not be able to

3391
04:41:07,120 --> 04:41:10,500
for sure actively effect a contract that's already been agreed to.

3392
04:41:10,880 --> 04:41:13,220
The only way to get out of it is going to be political.

3393
04:41:13,860 --> 04:41:17,660
It's going to be by playing nice and it will be challenging.

3394
04:41:18,920 --> 04:41:21,940
Folks, if you could take your conversations out into the hallway, please.

3395
04:41:22,120 --> 04:41:23,280
We are still conducting our meeting.

3396
04:41:23,720 --> 04:41:25,760
Thank you.

3397
04:41:26,140 --> 04:41:27,060
Is that-

3398
04:41:27,060 --> 04:41:27,860
That's always-

3399
04:41:27,860 --> 04:41:29,180
Supervisor Lopee Soaker.

3400
04:41:29,800 --> 04:41:30,720
Yeah, I'm satisfied.

3401
04:41:31,060 --> 04:41:31,840
Thank you very much.

3402
04:41:32,040 --> 04:41:32,340
No question.

3403
04:41:33,120 --> 04:41:34,080
Supervisor Missile.

3404
04:41:34,080 --> 04:41:40,420
I'll just briefly thank the public who's come to speak tonight and a lot of the comments that were raised,

3405
04:41:40,420 --> 04:41:51,080
Resonate with me and I'm looking forward to being able to work through these challenging budget decisions and being advocate for you all, and that's all related to that.

3406
04:41:52,300 --> 04:41:53,020
Supervisor Duncan.

3407
04:41:54,080 --> 04:42:00,160
On the revenue sharing, that was one of the first things I asked the county executive when we had one of our first meetings.

3408
04:42:00,980 --> 04:42:22,720
So yes, I also, you know, obviously would be in favor of changing, and I think it is fair to recognize too that our counterparts in the city are reasonable people, some of us are friends with them that I don't think it necessarily has to be a contentious discussion, but I do think it maybe eventually is worth raising.

3409
04:42:24,180 --> 04:42:38,080
The other thing that I'll just say for the purpose of preparing our budget work sessions is that I also would be in favor of a one-cent taxories for housing, and that's kind of all heavy now.

3410
04:42:38,880 --> 04:42:39,980
Thank you, Supervisor Malik.

3411
04:42:41,100 --> 04:42:41,860
Thank you very much.

3412
04:42:42,060 --> 04:42:52,700
No questions right now, but I'm very grateful for all the people who came and spoke and shared their concerns because we always learned a lot from our residents and need to.

3413
04:42:52,700 --> 04:42:54,760
keep struggling along here. Thank you.

3414
04:42:54,940 --> 04:42:58,740
Supervisor proof. One quick note and I apologize. I'm

3415
04:42:58,740 --> 04:43:01,480
meant to catch this before everyone left. So if the other folks

3416
04:43:01,480 --> 04:43:04,680
from impact could share it, I'd like to mention this every year.

3417
04:43:04,860 --> 04:43:08,880
The practical deadline for a lot of your advocacy is sooner than you

3418
04:43:08,880 --> 04:43:14,300
think it is. So either if you're Mr. Reese and want us to reduce our

3419
04:43:14,300 --> 04:43:17,600
tax rate or if you're Mr. Monaco and want us to raise it by a

3420
04:43:17,600 --> 04:43:26,680
That decision needs to be made by this Board are willingness to make that decision needs to be made in two weeks from now.

3421
04:43:27,040 --> 04:43:32,000
At the next regular full board meetings when we advertise the maximum tax rate,

3422
04:43:32,280 --> 04:43:36,280
that caps and hymns and a lot of the future possibility for a budget discussion.

3423
04:43:36,440 --> 04:43:42,120
It doesn't mean budget can't change, but that is kind of, I would say, an important advocacy deadline.

3424
04:43:42,120 --> 04:43:43,330
Can't go up.

3425
04:43:43,660 --> 04:43:45,520
Can't go up.

3426
04:43:45,880 --> 04:43:46,060
Great.

3427
04:43:47,960 --> 04:43:48,260
All right.

3428
04:43:48,360 --> 04:43:56,040
So I would just put out there that we haven't heard the revenue sharing come up in

3429
04:43:56,040 --> 04:43:57,060
the last couple of years.

3430
04:43:57,260 --> 04:43:58,700
It's come up before in the past.

3431
04:43:59,240 --> 04:44:03,280
But we do have to remember that the future county or the past county residents did

3432
04:44:03,280 --> 04:44:11,520
both for it, which sometimes when you have your own referendums that they vote for makes

3433
04:44:11,520 --> 04:44:17,820
interesting when you go try to advocate to go to the other direction, at least that's what

3434
04:44:17,820 --> 04:44:21,820
because there are creative ways that you can, which we have lobbied the state for,

3435
04:44:21,980 --> 04:44:26,820
or it's not necessarily been to get rid of the revenue sharing agreement, but it's ways to

3436
04:44:27,740 --> 04:44:33,080
tweak where that funding counts when they do things like local composite index. So we all have to

3437
04:44:33,080 --> 04:44:38,920
remember that at $22, $20 million in revenue sharing when they calculate that out, the state

3438
04:44:38,920 --> 04:44:40,420
it's in our coffers.

3439
04:44:42,500 --> 04:44:47,080
And if we could get them to adjust it and say that 20 million is not in

3440
04:44:47,080 --> 04:44:52,820
our coffers, that would be helpful to us. In our past advocacy of that effort at the state,

3441
04:44:53,060 --> 04:44:59,960
the state said, your voters passed this, go fix it through your voters. So there wasn't a lot of

3442
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:07,860
Now, we haven't attempted that in 10 or 12 years, that sort of effort. But even those type of things

3443
04:45:07,860 --> 04:45:14,620
have ran into what you have to basically accept your past if you would, and what voters have

3444
04:45:14,620 --> 04:45:21,200
agreed to do. I don't think there'd be a supervisor here that would, like to have that 22 million

3445
04:45:21,200 --> 04:45:26,680
on our side of the fence. I mean, 6.4 for the schools, we're getting asked for 5 million more

3446
04:45:26,680 --> 04:45:30,860
affordable housing, we've had people in the past, whether it was tonight or in things

3447
04:45:30,860 --> 04:45:36,260
asked us to equalize the tax rate, which would be at least probably $678 million dollars

3448
04:45:36,260 --> 04:45:42,240
to get down. And I haven't even done that, Matthew, as we get into the work session. I don't

3449
04:45:42,240 --> 04:45:47,380
know the exact dollar that the Bennett's Village request was. Another $40,000 dollars for the

3450
04:45:47,380 --> 04:45:52,280
Foothills Act, because he's center that was being asked for tonight. But right away, we're already

3451
04:45:52,280 --> 04:46:00,580
up to $12, $13,14 million in requests, just in the last 90 minutes, and we could cover that

3452
04:46:00,580 --> 04:46:07,220
with $22 million, but every, you know, that bit of, what did we, what did we, it was $22 million?

3453
04:46:07,400 --> 04:46:07,720
That's probably what?

3454
04:46:08,020 --> 04:46:14,500
Seven cents on the tax rate, so that, so we are paying for city services, this is the reality

3455
04:46:14,500 --> 04:46:22,260
of the situation, but I bring all this up as a long way to say board, of course if there's

3456
04:46:22,260 --> 04:46:27,620
talk or discussion about increasing revenue, which would be a tax rate increase, then that

3457
04:46:27,620 --> 04:46:33,480
will equate to about $3.3 million per penny, just to play around with some of the requests

3458
04:46:33,480 --> 04:46:34,240
that we're receiving.

3459
04:46:35,120 --> 04:46:38,820
If you want to stay within the recommended budget, but you want to see things go to

3460
04:46:38,820 --> 04:46:44,360
different obligations, then you have to be ready to say where it's going to come from in order

3461
04:46:44,360 --> 04:46:47,600
to do that, which is what Supervisor Crout was also alluding to.

3462
04:46:47,600 --> 04:46:57,180
So as we're working through the work sessions, that's going to be an important part of the work that we'll have to do since this is in our lives now to work through.

3463
04:46:57,500 --> 04:47:04,160
But do appreciate all the input tonight from the members of the public and we'll be working through the work sessions.

3464
04:47:05,000 --> 04:47:11,960
So please I hope I hope all the folks paying attention tonight just don't pay attention to tonight but pay attention to all those work sessions as well.

3465
04:47:11,960 --> 04:47:19,300
and we'll come back out and give us feedback at our town halls and in the additional public hearings that we have, so thank you all very much.

3466
04:47:21,120 --> 04:47:28,620
Tonight we still do have a number 17 from the board committee reports and matters not listed on the agenda.

3467
04:47:30,260 --> 04:47:38,420
And there is a specific item about Senate Bill 443. We'll handle that with Ms. Malibu when we get to her in the order,

3468
04:47:38,420 --> 04:47:44,660
But I'll just go through the general comments of where you're at with committee reports or other matters.

3469
04:47:44,780 --> 04:47:46,600
Supervisor Prue and any items here this evening?

3470
04:47:47,020 --> 04:47:50,780
Mr. Chair, I've had no committee meeting since last time. Last board meeting.

3471
04:47:51,540 --> 04:47:53,300
All right. Supervisor Lapinto currently?

3472
04:47:54,300 --> 04:47:55,420
No, we important thank you.

3473
04:47:56,860 --> 04:47:57,860
Supervisor Missle?

3474
04:47:58,060 --> 04:47:58,840
No sir, no reports.

3475
04:48:00,040 --> 04:48:00,740
Supervisor Duncan?

3476
04:48:01,200 --> 04:48:08,400
I don't have any committee reports but I did sit in on the town hall on Sunday afternoon that Amy Waffer and

3477
04:48:08,400 --> 04:48:13,740
Katrina and Credits had, and that was super helpful to hear kind of an update on where things

3478
04:48:13,740 --> 04:48:19,300
are, but the one thing that I found really interesting is that Amy said that they have put

3479
04:48:19,300 --> 04:48:25,940
money in the budget to study sort of the school funding and the LCI in general. She said

3480
04:48:25,940 --> 04:48:30,320
it's been, like they wanted to do it before, but there's never been funding in this time

3481
04:48:30,320 --> 04:48:36,040
there is funding. So hopefully, you know, the outcome of that will be interesting to see

3482
04:48:36,040 --> 04:48:37,640
at least I'm gonna study it.

3483
04:48:37,800 --> 04:48:39,500
Like a jail arch study, or what kind of study?

3484
04:48:39,940 --> 04:48:43,200
Like to study whether or not they should fund schools

3485
04:48:43,200 --> 04:48:46,900
based on need, instead of just general, per people,

3486
04:48:47,760 --> 04:48:51,480
and just sort of look at making school funding more fair,

3487
04:48:52,260 --> 04:48:53,280
or I'm not sure about that.

3488
04:48:55,700 --> 04:48:56,180
Great.

3489
04:48:57,640 --> 04:48:57,920
Is that all?

3490
04:48:58,000 --> 04:48:58,300
I'm sorry.

3491
04:48:58,500 --> 04:48:59,220
Yes, that's it.

3492
04:48:59,560 --> 04:49:00,300
Supervisor Malik.

3493
04:49:00,900 --> 04:49:01,920
Thank you very much.

3494
04:49:02,560 --> 04:49:04,480
The meeting caused a community association.

3495
04:49:04,480 --> 04:49:08,900
I mentioned earlier that large collection of people from many different neighborhoods talking

3496
04:49:08,900 --> 04:49:13,940
about reporting into each other about what they were learning about what was going on in the

3497
04:49:13,940 --> 04:49:19,900
Crocic community. It's a wonderful other opportunity in addition to the Crocic community advisory

3498
04:49:19,900 --> 04:49:27,300
council, which is chartered to work on the master plan areas, but this is community-wide and very

3499
04:49:27,300 --> 04:49:33,220
similar to what many neighborhood associations across the jurisdictions across the county do.

3500
04:49:33,940 --> 04:49:41,860
The thing I will bring up now is, I sent you all an email about the passage of Senate Bill

3501
04:49:41,860 --> 04:49:46,420
443 and I will just shoot across.

3502
04:49:46,600 --> 04:49:50,600
This is a draft that you can consider rather than digging around in your emails, this is one

3503
04:49:50,600 --> 04:49:51,420
of those for everybody.

3504
04:49:52,060 --> 04:49:56,120
And while you're looking at this as part of what came in the email as well, I just took it

3505
04:49:56,120 --> 04:49:59,140
from the template that was sent for discussion purposes.

3506
04:50:01,260 --> 04:50:06,920
In addition to taking away local decision-making, the legislation which has passed exempts

3507
04:50:07,620 --> 04:50:12,800
installations from requirements that applicants have already given to localities.

3508
04:50:13,980 --> 04:50:21,320
So we have, I think in the letter I said, 1,666 acres, already approved for utility scale

3509
04:50:21,320 --> 04:50:24,840
in this scale, mid-scale solar development.

3510
04:50:25,920 --> 04:50:48,000
Where the impact will be from this bill, is that every one of those applications will be able to buy writing with no regulation, no site, payment, no agreement with the county to offset costs, they'll be able to plunk down these battery locations, anywhere even adjacent to where their approved parcel is, and there's there.

3511
04:50:49,220 --> 04:50:56,780
So I think this is an incredible overreach and another unfundant mandate in addition to taking away the local decision making.

3512
04:50:57,260 --> 04:51:00,340
Other communities have talked about the impact of their foreign rescue.

3513
04:51:01,100 --> 04:51:04,600
There's no provision for communication as we have for our ordinance.

3514
04:51:04,920 --> 04:51:09,020
You basically undermine the ordinance of which we work years to adopt.

3515
04:51:11,600 --> 04:51:17,920
To require the county to basically minimize what work we have already done.

3516
04:51:17,920 --> 04:51:21,100
So it punishes the localities who have done work already,

3517
04:51:21,620 --> 04:51:24,580
and there's no impact at all for committees who have not

3518
04:51:24,580 --> 04:51:27,040
approved any solar installations.

3519
04:51:27,720 --> 04:51:29,660
I refuse to use the word solar farms

3520
04:51:29,660 --> 04:51:33,140
because there's no production of food or anything going on there.

3521
04:51:33,820 --> 04:51:35,780
So anyway, I will lead this for your consideration

3522
04:51:35,780 --> 04:51:41,200
and hopes that you might agree to send with the chair

3523
04:51:41,200 --> 04:51:46,700
a version of something from these facts in the draft

3524
04:51:46,700 --> 04:51:53,200
to the governor, and also I have the contact information for the Commerce and Labor Secretary

3525
04:51:53,200 --> 04:51:56,680
as well as the local government liaison in the cabinet.

3526
04:51:57,680 --> 04:52:01,640
So I will try to answer any questions you have or get any feedback in half.

3527
04:52:02,000 --> 04:52:05,360
Any questions now for Supervisor Malik, Mr. Prude?

3528
04:52:05,520 --> 04:52:13,840
I actually have a question stemming from this for Council for already approved projects.

3529
04:52:13,840 --> 04:52:17,640
I could kind of see two different arguments for how this would affect them.

3530
04:52:18,100 --> 04:52:21,040
One argument would be, oh, the state supersedes us.

3531
04:52:21,240 --> 04:52:24,460
The state therefore says this shall be allowed as an accessory use.

3532
04:52:24,520 --> 04:52:33,120
The other argument is we have an understanding at contract with the party and therefore

3533
04:52:33,120 --> 04:52:35,620
can't be interfered retroactively with the state.

3534
04:52:36,000 --> 04:52:37,060
I don't know which one it is.

3535
04:52:37,780 --> 04:52:39,000
And that's a good question.

3536
04:52:39,300 --> 04:52:43,640
And the implication is an entirely clear there is an enactment clause with this particular

3537
04:52:43,640 --> 04:52:51,140
bill that stipulates that any connection request that's been filed prior to July 1, 2030 will

3538
04:52:51,140 --> 04:52:55,920
be subject to the local ordinance as it existed on July 1, 2026.

3539
04:52:56,920 --> 04:53:01,700
So there is a bit of grandfathering through an enactment clause, but again, the question

3540
04:53:01,700 --> 04:53:06,740
you raise is a valid one in terms of, this just creates one of the downsides of this bill

3541
04:53:06,740 --> 04:53:09,760
as it creates uncertainty for previously approved projects.

3542
04:53:11,020 --> 04:53:11,100
Okay.

3543
04:53:11,100 --> 04:53:17,520
In addition to that, I will use the machinery and tools tax as an example in previous solar

3544
04:53:17,520 --> 04:53:18,320
installations.

3545
04:53:19,180 --> 04:53:23,260
There have been contracts part of our approval for this special permit.

3546
04:53:24,420 --> 04:53:29,680
The legislature has wiped those out by changing the rules and the percentages up to 500

3547
04:53:29,680 --> 04:53:30,280
megawatts.

3548
04:53:30,440 --> 04:53:31,340
You don't have to pay anything.

3549
04:53:31,880 --> 04:53:37,520
It is basically taken away revenue that the county was counting on to offset the expenses

3550
04:53:37,520 --> 04:53:38,160
of these things.

3551
04:53:38,160 --> 04:53:41,240
So that has been the legislatures behavior already,

3552
04:53:41,580 --> 04:53:42,960
and I do not expect this change.

3553
04:53:45,730 --> 04:53:47,710
Supervisualities, for currently any questions here,

3554
04:53:48,010 --> 04:53:49,870
for Supervisor Malik, Supervisor Missle.

3555
04:53:50,590 --> 04:53:51,050
No questions.

3556
04:53:51,330 --> 04:53:52,110
Supervisor Duncan?

3557
04:53:52,350 --> 04:53:52,730
No.

3558
04:53:54,030 --> 04:53:56,270
I guess my thing would be you're asking us to take this

3559
04:53:56,270 --> 04:53:58,810
consider it, and then if we would like to do it as a board,

3560
04:53:59,030 --> 04:54:02,130
we can get back together and figure that out.

3561
04:54:02,610 --> 04:54:04,090
Do we have an idea of timing?

3562
04:54:04,290 --> 04:54:05,290
Is this on the shot clock?

3563
04:54:05,290 --> 04:54:08,470
It is gone to the governor, so it's seven days.

3564
04:54:08,470 --> 04:54:09,690
It's my understanding.

3565
04:54:10,350 --> 04:54:12,190
I don't just, I'm sorry, I didn't figure this out before

3566
04:54:12,190 --> 04:54:13,390
five o'clock I'm on day.

3567
04:54:13,750 --> 04:54:14,270
I would.

3568
04:54:15,390 --> 04:54:15,990
Six thirty.

3569
04:54:16,830 --> 04:54:18,470
I think if the, if the, if the, if the, if the super,

3570
04:54:18,470 --> 04:54:20,830
or the supervisors prepared to say that they would,

3571
04:54:20,970 --> 04:54:24,030
where they stand on this or do they need some time to consider it,

3572
04:54:24,030 --> 04:54:26,750
if they support or disagree or agree with.

3573
04:54:27,210 --> 04:54:28,410
I just have one quick question.

3574
04:54:28,450 --> 04:54:31,470
I mean, I generally am discriminated and reading the other

3575
04:54:31,990 --> 04:54:33,530
counties and the other communities,

3576
04:54:34,210 --> 04:54:36,590
motions or, or, or,

3577
04:54:36,590 --> 04:54:43,950
I guess I wondered, something like this, do we usually or have we in the past run this past staff just to get a quick

3578
04:54:43,950 --> 04:54:46,170
Over some thoughts and

3579
04:54:46,170 --> 04:54:50,930
Our little staff is the only one who would be. Okay, in the past anyway, you know

3580
04:54:52,150 --> 04:54:56,230
Okay, I mean, I don't see any issues with it personally, but I would like some time

3581
04:54:56,230 --> 04:55:01,550
Well, and there's two layers because we can individually we can write and send any letter to wish

3582
04:55:02,510 --> 04:55:09,670
So the reason it's being discussed here is if we want to agree as a board to send it with a stance on it.

3583
04:55:10,190 --> 04:55:13,690
So you all can leave here and you agree a Sunday letter.

3584
04:55:14,430 --> 04:55:15,770
So that's not really the question.

3585
04:55:15,950 --> 04:55:19,430
The question is, do we want to do this as a board to send to the governor?

3586
04:55:19,730 --> 04:55:20,930
I don't think so.

3587
04:55:21,210 --> 04:55:21,350
I don't think so.

3588
04:55:22,050 --> 04:55:23,010
On behalf of the board.

3589
04:55:23,190 --> 04:55:23,630
Type of thanks.

3590
04:55:23,710 --> 04:55:24,430
Supervisor Prude.

3591
04:55:25,250 --> 04:55:31,530
I would say I hear and I understand the argument that supervisor Malik is

3592
04:55:31,530 --> 04:55:36,510
is raising. I find it sympathetic. I don't know that I find it sympathetic to overcome what

3593
04:55:36,510 --> 04:55:42,330
I think the delegation in the general assembly is trying to accomplish. I find their

3594
04:55:42,330 --> 04:55:51,350
cause similarly sympathetic because not every locality that houses solar in this commonwealth

3595
04:55:51,350 --> 04:55:58,130
is as thoughtful. On the issue is as this locality is and I understand there are real

3596
04:55:58,130 --> 04:56:01,850
and use concerns that the general assembly is trying to overcome.

3597
04:56:03,030 --> 04:56:06,450
I would raise just right next to our dust in Fluevanna, right?

3598
04:56:06,450 --> 04:56:12,110
You can only house solar in light and industrial and industrial zoning.

3599
04:56:13,090 --> 04:56:16,070
And there are therefore a lot of land use hurdles that need to be overcome

3600
04:56:16,610 --> 04:56:18,630
to make solar even remotely viable.

3601
04:56:19,330 --> 04:56:22,030
So, I hear the concern you're raising.

3602
04:56:22,030 --> 04:56:32,470
And I also hear like the muddiness that this creates because our friends in the general assembly aren't the best drafts but all the time.

3603
04:56:32,990 --> 04:56:39,850
I hear the muddiness it creates. I don't know that I personally would support this if it goes to a vote for the board.

3604
04:56:40,210 --> 04:56:41,590
All right, Supervisor LePies took her.

3605
04:56:42,930 --> 04:56:45,170
I just don't know enough about it.

3606
04:56:45,170 --> 04:56:47,170
Haven't had time to study it or anything.

3607
04:56:47,170 --> 04:56:51,450
So if everyone wants to do it on their own,

3608
04:56:51,450 --> 04:56:53,510
I think that's great, but I just,

3609
04:56:54,030 --> 04:56:56,010
I don't have no enough to really commit.

3610
04:56:56,470 --> 04:56:57,990
So I don't feel good about that.

3611
04:56:58,430 --> 04:57:00,270
Supervisor, Ms. Up, sorry.

3612
04:57:00,450 --> 04:57:00,690
Where you done?

3613
04:57:01,270 --> 04:57:03,390
Supervisor, Ms. Yeah, no, I appreciate this.

3614
04:57:03,650 --> 04:57:05,650
Generally sympathetic, just like a little bit more time

3615
04:57:05,650 --> 04:57:09,370
to look at it and support individuals sending it.

3616
04:57:09,370 --> 04:57:11,930
As a board, I guess that's a determination

3617
04:57:11,930 --> 04:57:13,370
we have to make as a board.

3618
04:57:14,070 --> 04:57:14,750
Supervisor Duncan?

3619
04:57:15,430 --> 04:57:36,630
I still, to be quite honest, don't know, a lot about the solar stuff, so I don't have an opinion on this, I would just say, as a principle, if we're going to start sending letters from the board about bills, I could come up, I'm sure, with a whole list of things that I would love the board to sign on, that I just don't know if in practice, it's a good idea.

3620
04:57:39,090 --> 04:57:43,970
So, with what I'm hearing, we do not have the support to send a letter on behalf of the board.

3621
04:57:44,510 --> 04:57:49,530
I would say for those of you who are still saying I would like a little time to consider it,

3622
04:57:49,530 --> 04:57:57,890
that you can send an individual letter directly to and you have the template here that we can consider.

3623
04:57:58,510 --> 04:58:03,710
And if you have your own bills that you track, you remember, you don't always have to

3624
04:58:03,710 --> 04:58:09,730
you can slip away and sense stuff to delegate senators in the governor as well.

3625
04:58:10,270 --> 04:58:13,470
Just be mindful that you can't say you're speaking on behalf of the board.

3626
04:58:13,470 --> 04:58:19,110
You're just speaking on your behalf as a one person in Virginia.

3627
04:58:20,270 --> 04:58:23,190
All right, did you have other committee reports or items?

3628
04:58:23,190 --> 04:58:24,250
Okay,

3629
04:58:26,650 --> 04:58:28,370
and that's up to me.

3630
04:58:29,030 --> 04:58:38,230
So, Naco, we did go to Naco, and did, I think I saw Anson out like a summary from one of the committees

3631
04:58:38,230 --> 04:58:39,070
that come out.

3632
04:58:39,450 --> 04:58:44,790
So as the Naco folks, some things, it's kind of easy to forward things over there, we got

3633
04:58:44,790 --> 04:58:51,710
a lot of information on federal legislation, if you're tracking that, there is movement

3634
04:58:51,710 --> 04:58:57,530
on things that could be helpful to us relative to housing coming from the federal level.

3635
04:58:58,730 --> 04:59:03,290
It does seem to be one thing that has been getting some bipartisan support because it seems

3636
04:59:03,290 --> 04:59:08,290
like very little is moving through, but housing is one spot where there's some legislation

3637
04:59:08,290 --> 04:59:15,170
that is moving and we'll see what else can potentially come from it.

3638
04:59:15,470 --> 04:59:16,250
It was interesting.

3639
04:59:16,250 --> 04:59:21,990
And I had the opportunity to hear the Japanese ambassador to the United States talk.

3640
04:59:22,330 --> 04:59:25,750
And it was in the economic development type of conversation.

3641
04:59:27,070 --> 04:59:32,210
And now I think with the type of thing that he was representing Japanese investors and the

3642
04:59:32,210 --> 04:59:37,350
type of places they're investing in, communities like a Charlottesville albumaro isn't necessarily

3643
04:59:37,350 --> 04:59:38,110
their target.

3644
04:59:38,210 --> 04:59:40,550
I mean I'm talking big metro areas where they're going.

3645
04:59:41,070 --> 04:59:45,910
But it was interesting when he was asked what did investors tend to look for regardless of

3646
04:59:45,910 --> 04:59:53,810
size and the two things he mentioned was regulation and infrastructure. So, it's regulation

3647
04:59:54,970 --> 04:59:59,970
is easy to get projects up and running as fast as possible. And then,

3648
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:04,620
Is the infrastructure in place to allow us to operate effectively and efficiently?

3649
05:00:04,900 --> 05:00:07,100
So it was interesting to hear that as the response.

3650
05:00:07,880 --> 05:00:12,380
But as other things come up, I'm sure you and I will be sharing that.

3651
05:00:12,940 --> 05:00:17,080
At the Metropolitan Planning Organization, we did finalize what would be going through

3652
05:00:17,080 --> 05:00:19,960
MPO, which is earlier today through the Smart Scale applications.

3653
05:00:21,380 --> 05:00:28,500
We did put a pause on our citizen transportation advisory committee, which whose purpose

3654
05:00:28,500 --> 05:00:37,200
had become I guess unfounded or unclear over the years. It was originally doing a lot of work

3655
05:00:37,200 --> 05:00:42,040
with a long-range transportation plan but we had a lot of good people in that committee

3656
05:00:42,040 --> 05:00:48,580
and it just seemed like in terms of advisory and what its point was was not being met and the

3657
05:00:48,580 --> 05:00:53,460
committee decided to take a pause on it since the purpose is not clear. It will give us about a

3658
05:00:53,460 --> 05:00:56,420
before the work on the next long-range transportation plan,

3659
05:00:56,680 --> 05:00:58,880
us begins, that we're going to look

3660
05:00:58,880 --> 05:01:03,680
bin at more of a ad hoc activity type style of how we could stand up a citizen

3661
05:01:03,680 --> 05:01:09,160
transportation advisory committee to be useful to the MPO on projects that they

3662
05:01:09,160 --> 05:01:13,340
also then be of interest to folks there. So if you hear any thing about that

3663
05:01:13,340 --> 05:01:23,220
for many of our own appointees, that's what's going on there. A lot of them live in

3664
05:01:25,000 --> 05:01:30,100
So, out of the December meeting, you've all heard Ann and I talk about the funding, health,

3665
05:01:30,800 --> 05:01:32,480
transportation, funding works in the Commonwealth.

3666
05:01:33,000 --> 05:01:36,880
If you haven't had a chance to watch that meeting, you can still go back to December 17th

3667
05:01:36,880 --> 05:01:37,940
and watch the presentation.

3668
05:01:38,640 --> 05:01:45,560
From that meeting, Sean Nelson, who's the Chief Judge of the Call of Effort District, had

3669
05:01:45,560 --> 05:01:49,660
made a recommendation that it would be a good idea for the City and the County via

3670
05:01:49,660 --> 05:01:51,680
the MPO, the representatives on there.

3671
05:01:51,680 --> 05:01:55,580
to come together and start to strategize more on how to get projects done.

3672
05:01:56,040 --> 05:01:58,540
Not even necessarily just smart scale.

3673
05:01:59,260 --> 05:02:04,020
So we will be having a special meeting that's going to start having that kind of conversation.

3674
05:02:04,600 --> 05:02:10,440
And it built out of the funding conversation discussion with staff from both the city and the county.

3675
05:02:11,120 --> 05:02:16,060
It's the first time that that type of suggestion has come from V dot or from anyone, frankly.

3676
05:02:16,060 --> 05:02:22,020
So I'm looking forward to that kind of conversation because, you know, the folks at V dot are saying,

3677
05:02:22,260 --> 05:02:29,420
yeah, well, let's see what else we can try to get done and get creative and be more strategic in making and getting some of these projects through.

3678
05:02:30,060 --> 05:02:32,400
So looking forward to that conversation in April.

3679
05:02:34,180 --> 05:02:42,020
I will add on to that that it's really important as the, as agreements are made covering improvements.

3680
05:02:42,020 --> 05:02:46,840
I'm thinking of Fontaine Research Park and the for the rezoning for extra buildings there

3681
05:02:46,840 --> 05:02:52,800
in the University of the Foundation, whichever it was back then, made the commitment to cover

3682
05:02:52,800 --> 05:03:00,020
the Fontaine improvements and yet all of a sudden it landed on the county's dime when I reached

3683
05:03:00,020 --> 05:03:06,020
out to staff about clarifying that they said well it's been transferred to the Foundation or academics

3684
05:03:06,020 --> 05:03:10,120
which other way it was and so we can't hold them to it anymore. And that's just one of the reasons

3685
05:03:10,120 --> 05:03:15,960
is why it's so important when something is granted agreed upon, get it close up right away.

3686
05:03:16,300 --> 05:03:20,040
Whether it's a donation of an easement, get it close up right away. Don't let it linger

3687
05:03:20,040 --> 05:03:23,420
for 20 years because all of us on new owners will say, oh, I don't want you to do that.

3688
05:03:23,640 --> 05:03:25,600
And then you're going through round around in circles.

3689
05:03:26,240 --> 05:03:34,340
I remember that 20 years it took to open the road between, what, I mean, honeymeat.

3690
05:03:34,340 --> 05:03:38,700
That's how it's worth life. Because it sets along that the neighbor said, oh, I don't want that there.

3691
05:03:38,700 --> 05:03:42,280
And it literally took 10 years of constant work to get it done.

3692
05:03:42,480 --> 05:03:47,700
And now of course everybody counts on it, but it was one of those difficulties to carry forward.

3693
05:03:48,940 --> 05:03:54,400
But Sean Nelson is a great blessing in the Culpever v. So I'm looking forward to that.

3694
05:03:54,700 --> 05:03:58,720
And I just remembered too that he had mentioned that during the last snow event,

3695
05:03:58,940 --> 05:04:02,860
how we had some roads that had been put into the public system that they hadn't updated on the plowing.

3696
05:04:03,260 --> 05:04:05,880
So I know v. working on that to get that rectified.

3697
05:04:06,220 --> 05:04:08,040
So I was pleased to hear that report as well.

3698
05:04:08,040 --> 05:04:10,700
So I'll just share that with the other supervisors.

3699
05:04:11,860 --> 05:04:12,500
All right, great.

3700
05:04:12,800 --> 05:04:15,940
Thank you all for those reports.

3701
05:04:17,500 --> 05:04:19,300
All right, well then without objection, we're there.

3702
05:04:19,480 --> 05:04:23,660
We will adjourn to March 9th, 2026 at 5 p.m.

3703
05:04:23,660 --> 05:04:26,900
and room 241 for our budget work session.

3704
05:04:27,120 --> 05:04:29,500
And just as reminder, you can send questions to Andy

3705
05:04:29,500 --> 05:04:33,080
Bowman and team ahead of time.

3706
05:04:33,200 --> 05:04:35,160
And those will be tracked and sent to us,

3707
05:04:35,220 --> 05:04:37,060
but also listed on the website for our review.

3708
05:04:37,880 --> 05:04:39,200
Thank you everyone. Have a good evening.