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silence then the pledge of

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allegiance led by councilor

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davis.

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I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the united states

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of america,

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and to the republic

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for which it stands,

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one nation,

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under God,

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indivisible,

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with liberty

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and justice

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for all.

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>> Councilor Jones: thank you,

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and thanks for being here this

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evening.

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Let's start with a motion to

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approve the October 17, 2018

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minutes.

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All those in favor?

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Those opposed.

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Motion carries.

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We have no proclamations and

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awards.

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Let's start with public comment.

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How many do we have?

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Each speaker will have three

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Please come forward when your

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name is called.

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>> I'm staff attorney with the

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new mexico environmental law

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health center.

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I'm speaking on behalf of

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community organizations and

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individuals.

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I request that I be given more

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than three minutes to address

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the board on three different

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agenda items.

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It's the first preliminary

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matter.

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>> Councilor Jones: we can give

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you four minutes.

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>> thank you.

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On behalf of our clients, we

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have submitted extensive

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comments on the santolina

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serviceability letter.

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i would like to admit that into

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the record at this time.

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We have provided the board with

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four major broad issues that we

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have with the santolina serve

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ice

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serviceability letter.

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The first concern is the board's

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failure to satisfy it's

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statutory mandidate for

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regulations for water and

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wastewater service to

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developments outside out of

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water authority service area and

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the current legal existing

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commitments.

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We ask that the board satisfy

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that statutory mandate and give

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policy regulation to service

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letters, and availability and

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development agreement for

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proposed developments such as

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santolina and when it comes to

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the water authority expanding

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services beyond service area.

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Without policy and regulations

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and the executive decter and

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keef operation officers behave

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an an ad hoc way.

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The history that was omitted by

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water authority staff in that

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letter.

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The approach to santolina.

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The western albuquerque land

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holdings actually submitted a

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request for serviceability

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statement back in 2014.

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It was for three of the

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developments.

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Santolina, and del rio.

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Documents obtained indicate the

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chief operation officer said the

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water could not approach these

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three developments separately.

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The impack -- impact of the

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three are interrelated.

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We ask to not handle this in a

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piecemal approach and deal with

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the impacts together.

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the third concern we have

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regarding the serviceability

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letter is that it appears to be

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base d on an unlawful return

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flow credit.

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We ask the board to direct

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Mr. Stomp to explain how the

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water and wastewater scheme does

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not violate existing state

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engineer regulations regarding

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use and flow credits.

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We are also concerned that the

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serviceability letters proposed

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water and wastewater scheme

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relies on specklative bosqu

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water reclamation plant.

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Primarily when the water 2120

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plan and the 2020 study

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indicate provide nonpotable water

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to existing users and future

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committed growth for irrigation

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to large turf areas, and nowhere

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in 2

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can be used for santolina.

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We ask the board to direct

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Mr. Stomp to address that

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concern.

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>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

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>> thank you, very much.

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>> Councilor Jones: next

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speaker.

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>> I'm with the south valley

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regional association.

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Last month I spoke regarding the

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serviceability letter and I'm

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submitting written comments

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tonight regarding the

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serviceability letter.

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I'd like to provide a copy to

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your staff to provide to you and

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the other members of the board.

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My statement reads, water

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authority development agreement

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for the santolina development

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should still not be considered

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by the albuquerque bernalillo

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county water utility authority

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until stan tech consulting

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independent analysis of the

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water supply utility charge and

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proposed water resources charge

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is complete and adopted by the

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board.

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The board is charged with

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stewarding water supply and

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infrastructure and in specific

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water and wastewater expansion

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ordinance a19c requires that the

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board that any expansion of

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water infrastructure be at no

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expense to rate payers.

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The water serviceability of

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October 1, 2018 does not require

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to the santolina developers to

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pay the 137

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$137 million of the

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building of bosque recycling

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plant.

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In this case 2020 to serve the

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plan "b" phase one.

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If the water authority

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development is provided using

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only the current water service

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charge of $1,669 for phase one,

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4,900 households that totals 15

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$15

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million they contribute toward

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the re clu

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cluimation plant.

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That will leave the remaining

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cost for the recycling plant to

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be paid by existing rate payers,

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and other sources of funding

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both federal and state.

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Given that the water authority

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policy is to ensure existing

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rate payers does not pay for the

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cost of expanding the system to

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new users and given the burden

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of existing rate paysers we

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courage the watt authority to

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not consider the development for

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santolina.

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>> Councilor Jones: thank you,

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sir.

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>> thank you, Madam Chair.

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>> good afternoon.

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As usual, I don't have enough

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time to cover everything in

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detail.

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I'm going to skip to the punch

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line.

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I've said how many times how I

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think having markers to choose

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whether or not there's success

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in reaching goals is needed.

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Here's an example.

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Ground court pumping has to stop

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even more, double from what

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we've been stopping in order to

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reach the goal set out in

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chapter five.

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Santolina, the idea of allowing

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that to come in and start

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pumping more, which is what the

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letter of serviceability talks

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about will increase the pumping

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and that will upset the whole

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plan.

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So, before the serviceability

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letter is finalized, I think

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there needs to be ground water

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plan.

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There needs to be -- sorry, the

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determination has to be of what

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the water supply charge should

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include.

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And that is under review by a

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consultant of yours.

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I suggest that until that is

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done that -- how do you know

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whether or not there's going to

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be no next ex-spence.

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I recommend the utility adopt

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full cost recovery rather than

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occural accounting so that the

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cost of supplying water, the

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environmental cost, resource

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cost, and so son so on are met

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to adopt policy of water

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neutrality.

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It would be one May to ensure we

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didn't increase pumping and

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depletions which are hardly

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being covered without extra

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water.

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Remove the boskque project.

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I will submit my comments which

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are in more depth.

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Thank you.

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>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

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>> I live in the southival

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valley,

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I'm the vice-President Of the

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neighborhood association.

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I also agree that the

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serviceability letter has to be

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redone.

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It doesn't answer a lot of the

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issues.

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We're concerned with the no net

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expense

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expense.

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We don't know how they're do it

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without expense to the

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taxpayers.

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We're worried where the water is

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going to come from for

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santolina.

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I'm going to read a couple

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points from his letter that I

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will submit to this board.

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Concerning the water

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serviceability letter, the plant

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construction schedule has been

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accelerated.

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It was to be built after 2050,

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now it's for the water and sewer

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for santolina.

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The capital cost were included

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in 659

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$659 million and the total

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estimated cost for phase.

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That in -- October 2018 called

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water and sewer base of cost.

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The bosque do not appear in the

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serviceability of the master

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plan set fourth in table two.

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What is the basis for the 49

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$49

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million share of the cost which

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exceed 100

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$100 million?

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Why are bosque's costs

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eliminated from requirements?

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The water authority is not being

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transparent about it being used

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for santolina and the funding

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request for state and federal

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funding.

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This will be on agenda c-1845

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and 46.

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The 2018 technical memorandum

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concludes that the new water

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capacity is required, but no

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ground water facilities can

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collect lines to convey to the

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new storage tanks.

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It includes a water cost

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subtotal.

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Water utility authority

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officialvise told developers

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that ground water is in the

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property.

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No additional water capacity is

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available for the area.

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>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

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>> May I submit this for public

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record?

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Thank you, very much.

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>> Councilor Jones: that's all

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of the speakers for this

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evening, if he comes in later

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we'll give him an opportunity to

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speak also.

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Let's move to the next agenda

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meeting, the next scheduled

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meeting is January 30, 2019 at

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5:00 P.M. In the vincent griego

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cham

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chambers.

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We're going to move the next

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item, that's ob-18-15 sewer

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water and development

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infrastructure presentation by

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Mr. Stomp.

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.

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>> good evening, Madam Chair,

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members of the board.

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Thank you for the opportunity

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for being here tonight.

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I'm going to present to you the

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water and sewer infrastructure

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requirements I'm going to

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outline in the serviceability

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statement or letter depending on

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how you call it.

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We did this at the last board

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meeting, and we're asked to come

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do it again.

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I apologize for you that heard

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it once.

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You're going to hear it again.

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Hopefully I'll do a better job

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since this is the second time

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around.

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So the time line as you know,

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level a and b1 were approved by

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the county.

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The land use plans are reprec

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you

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without a land use plan we would

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never entertain a water sewer

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serviceability request.

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That explains the 2014 request

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that went before us the reason

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why we did not address that is

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because we did not have the land

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use plan.

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The serviceability plan was

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made,individually.

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We had to do them collectively.

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That's one response to Ms. Parks

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request.

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We did issue -- there was a

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developer serviceability issue

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January 11, 2018.

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There was information provided

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and this board adopted 2120

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which had goals to reduce from

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135 gallons to 110 per capita

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per day.

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The developer remitted

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submitted those to be consistent

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with the plan.

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The serviceability was issued on

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October 1, and the next step is

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to issue an availability

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statement and come up with a

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development agreement that would

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be conditions of service that

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have to approved by this board.

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No service commitments have been

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made until it's approved by this

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board.

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Just to go through where we're

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at, the santolina development as

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you know is a very large

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development on the west side of

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about 14,000 acres.

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Phase one was approved for about

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4300 acres.

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Population projections is about

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9 5

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95,000 people.

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It's about the size of rio

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rancho in terms of magnitude of

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people served.

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Level "b" was 22,000.

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The water supply requirements

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based on the supplemental

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information and based on 110 per

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capita per day are provided

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there.

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2700 feet for the level b1, and

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11,000 for the full build out.

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In terms of population

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projections, these predicted in

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the 2120, we graphed out the low

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growth strategy or scenario.

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We have three different

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scenario 2120.

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Low, medium, and high growth.

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When you project the existing

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population and cup pair that to

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the future growth projections we

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allocated a certain percentage

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of growt

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side consistent with today.

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We do our best to figure out

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what the basis of how this

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population would be broken up

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between existing east and west

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and future development east and

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west.

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To put in perspective in terms

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of the long term future strategy

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for the water authority and

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santolina compared to that,

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under the low growth santolina

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represents about 15% of the

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total population over the next

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hundred years.

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A very significant portion of

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that under the no growth

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scenario.

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If you look at the medium growth

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scenario, santolina represents

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about 11% of the total

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population by the year 2120.

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Even under the medium growth it

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still represents large

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percentage of the growth of

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service area in the future.

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So this is a graph of the future

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water demands, they're broken

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down to reuse, and potable

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demands and showing wastewater

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00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:54,300
flows frojected in the future as

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you go along from 2018 to 2065.

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We're showing the level b1 and

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a, these are projected

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population and demand

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projections for potable and

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nonpotable.

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Level b1 is 2700 acre feet.

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And11,700 including

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potable and nonpotable.

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In terms of the demand over

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time, we have the three

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different growth scenarios, low,

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medium and high growth.

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These are the demand projections

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for those different scenarios.

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Under the no growth snai

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cenario our

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future demand is going up to 21

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210,000 acre feet for the high

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growth.

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In terms of santolina projected

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overall demands, we projected in

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the 2065 what percent of the

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water demand would be served by

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santolina which is 9%.

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00:20:03,932 --> 00:20:06,332
We projected the difference

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between west side and the future

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demand totally and that portion

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00:20:11,873 --> 00:20:12,340
would be attributed to

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santolina.

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You have a box on the right side

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with the potable and non-potable

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as it relates to the future

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00:20:22,350 --> 00:20:24,850
demand in the 2120 plan.

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So as we talked about last

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month, we talked about what was

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the first step in determining

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what the requirements for

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santolina would be, the first

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00:20:34,361 --> 00:20:35,696
step was to determine what the

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legal commitments are.

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Who are we serve

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00:20:38,231 --> 00:20:39,320
ing in the

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service area?

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Who is not being served in the

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service area?

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We have a commitment that we're

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going to provide water and

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service to everyone in the area.

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We need to figure out the

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development agreements approved

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00:20:56,282 --> 00:20:57,817
by the board and the impact in

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the existing service area.

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00:21:00,252 --> 00:21:02,521
And the contracts we have with

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existing entities like intel and

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the village of kral

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corales.

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00:21:09,928 --> 00:21:12,928
We have existing contracts to

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00:21:13,165 --> 00:21:15,300
provide wastewater treatment and

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00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:17,700
a million for corrales.

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00:21:18,603 --> 00:21:20,772
When you look at that and

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00:21:20,772 --> 00:21:22,740
compare it to the system, we

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00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:24,776
have to analyze what the

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00:21:24,776 --> 00:21:25,643
capacity issues are in terms of

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00:21:25,643 --> 00:21:27,643
the commitment.

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00:21:27,779 --> 00:21:28,946
We looked at the water, sewer,

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and reuse system.

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00:21:31,215 --> 00:21:31,515
There's no reuse on the west

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00:21:31,515 --> 00:21:32,950
side.

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00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:34,351
There's nothing to talk about

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00:21:34,351 --> 00:21:37,870
other than the future potential

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00:21:37,870 --> 00:21:39,323
for reuse which is the bosque

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00:21:39,323 --> 00:21:39,690
plant and reuse proposed for

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00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:41,325
santolina.

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00:21:41,325 --> 00:21:45,525
On the water side we have ground

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00:21:45,695 --> 00:21:49,295
water wells on the west side.

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00:21:49,699 --> 00:21:51,734
And the transfer of surface

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00:21:51,734 --> 00:21:54,734
water from east to west.

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00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,974
We have two lift station, which

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00:21:57,974 --> 00:22:00,109
is called lift station 20 which

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00:22:00,109 --> 00:22:02,678
takes the flow from the west

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00:22:02,678 --> 00:22:03,646
side across the river to the

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00:22:03,646 --> 00:22:05,646
south side plant.

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00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:08,830
We evaluated the capacity to see

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00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:11,830
if there was deficiencies and

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00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,220
how we would be making up those

548
00:22:16,424 --> 00:22:18,426
deficiencies for those that

549
00:22:18,426 --> 00:22:20,829
would be exasperated by them.

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00:22:20,829 --> 00:22:23,829
We have the existing demand

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00:22:24,132 --> 00:22:26,300
shown there, we have ground

552
00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:27,201
court as one measure of ply on

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00:22:27,201 --> 00:22:28,870
the west side.

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00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:30,838
We have demand on the west side,

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00:22:30,838 --> 00:22:33,107
and the existing ground water

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00:22:33,107 --> 00:22:34,775
wells which are the dark blue,

557
00:22:34,775 --> 00:22:38,412
and we also have the light blue

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00:22:38,412 --> 00:22:42,612
or hatch blue on of that they

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00:22:43,183 --> 00:22:43,550
shows the ground water capacity

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00:22:43,550 --> 00:22:45,550
committed.

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00:22:45,619 --> 00:22:47,621
If you look that ground water

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00:22:47,621 --> 00:22:49,589
capacity line, the legal

563
00:22:49,589 --> 00:22:51,989
agreements is above that.

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00:22:52,358 --> 00:22:55,228
We're already obligated with the

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00:22:55,228 --> 00:22:55,528
ground water supply on the west

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00:22:55,528 --> 00:22:57,528
side.

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00:22:57,697 --> 00:23:00,970
Any additional ground water

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00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,701
pumping would require new

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00:23:01,701 --> 00:23:03,701
infrastructure or infrastructure

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00:23:03,703 --> 00:23:05,304
to be used on the east side to

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00:23:05,304 --> 00:23:07,306
move over to the west side.

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00:23:07,306 --> 00:23:09,241
On the wastewater side we looked

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00:23:09,241 --> 00:23:11,743
at the interceptor system and

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00:23:11,743 --> 00:23:14,880
the capacity of the outing side

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00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280
water reck lumakes plant.

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00:23:18,884 --> 00:23:19,150
Inplant is 76 million gallons a

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00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:21,150
day.

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00:23:21,186 --> 00:23:23,388
We will not expand that plan.

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00:23:23,388 --> 00:23:26,388
Any future wastewater is going

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00:23:26,557 --> 00:23:27,910
to be constructed flew satellite

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00:23:27,910 --> 00:23:28,826
systems.

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00:23:28,826 --> 00:23:30,661
There are two other systems that

583
00:23:30,661 --> 00:23:33,998
have been approved by this board

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00:23:33,998 --> 00:23:36,367
that are part of water 2120.

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00:23:36,367 --> 00:23:39,370
The idea is that as we grow, the

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00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:40,504
sewer plant at the south side of

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00:23:40,504 --> 00:23:43,504
albuquerque would stay the same

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00:23:44,508 --> 00:23:45,542
and we would build satellite

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00:23:45,542 --> 00:23:47,942
facilities to serve that.

590
00:23:48,912 --> 00:23:49,746
We would reuse that water as a

591
00:23:49,746 --> 00:23:51,746
drinking water supply.

592
00:23:52,150 --> 00:23:52,315
That's part of the water 2120

593
00:23:52,315 --> 00:23:54,117
plan.

594
00:23:54,117 --> 00:23:56,517
We have existing deficiencies

595
00:23:56,553 --> 00:23:58,721
for capacity of ground water on

596
00:23:58,721 --> 00:24:00,556
the west side, and we have

597
00:24:00,556 --> 00:24:02,956
interceptor and other capacity

598
00:24:03,926 --> 00:24:06,926
constraints on the west side

599
00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:11,533
also.

600
00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:14,300
In terms of the packet, there's

601
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:15,300
two additional is slides,

602
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:17,300
infrastructure requirements as

603
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,707
we talked about we're phasing

604
00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:21,707
the infrastructure in over time.

605
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:25,910
The first phase to construct the

606
00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:31,450
plant, the bosque plant has 4

607
00:24:33,254 --> 00:24:35,389
million gallons a day, so by

608
00:24:35,389 --> 00:24:37,792
constructing it we're freeing up

609
00:24:37,792 --> 00:24:40,192
4 million gallons a day.

610
00:24:41,662 --> 00:24:43,530
In addition, we're freeing up

611
00:24:43,530 --> 00:24:45,530
interceptor capacity.

612
00:24:48,902 --> 00:24:51,302
The bosque plant transitions

613
00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:55,408
existing use to free up

614
00:24:55,408 --> 00:24:57,808
interceptor capacity that allows

615
00:24:58,578 --> 00:25:00,546
santolina to construct and add

616
00:25:00,546 --> 00:25:01,214
new population in the first

617
00:25:01,214 --> 00:25:02,582
phase.

618
00:25:02,582 --> 00:25:04,984
In the second phase you're

619
00:25:04,984 --> 00:25:06,219
required to build a new

620
00:25:06,219 --> 00:25:08,421
wastewater treatment plant that

621
00:25:08,421 --> 00:25:10,256
is able to serve their reuse

622
00:25:10,256 --> 00:25:11,557
needs and the last phase of the

623
00:25:11,557 --> 00:25:14,557
development they will build a

624
00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:16,361
new wastewater plant or expand

625
00:25:16,361 --> 00:25:19,498
the plant and combine that with

626
00:25:19,498 --> 00:25:20,532
service water and use it as

627
00:25:20,532 --> 00:25:22,532
drinking water.

628
00:25:22,767 --> 00:25:24,236
Reuse becomes a big component.

629
00:25:24,236 --> 00:25:24,836
Using the existing supplies that

630
00:25:24,836 --> 00:25:26,836
we have.

631
00:25:26,873 --> 00:25:29,873
The is wastewater that is

632
00:25:29,874 --> 00:25:32,274
generated on-site at santolina

633
00:25:33,111 --> 00:25:34,946
will be future use for

634
00:25:34,946 --> 00:25:36,470
nonpotable but also drinking

635
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:38,470
water supply.

636
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:40,451
With that, Madam Chair I'm glad

637
00:25:40,451 --> 00:25:41,952
to answer any questions.

638
00:25:41,952 --> 00:25:42,620
>> Councilor Jones: thank you,

639
00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:43,921
Mr. Stomp.

640
00:25:43,921 --> 00:25:44,388
Any questions?

641
00:25:44,388 --> 00:25:45,322
Councilor davis.

642
00:25:45,322 --> 00:25:47,258
>> Councilor Davis: thank you,

643
00:25:47,258 --> 00:25:48,910
Madam Chair, thank you,

644
00:25:48,910 --> 00:25:50,910
Mr. Attempt.

645
00:25:50,227 --> 00:25:53,163
I wanted to follow up on a

646
00:25:53,163 --> 00:25:54,498
couple questions we had

647
00:25:54,498 --> 00:25:56,166
previously and address the

648
00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:58,566
questions we heard tonight.

649
00:26:00,303 --> 00:26:03,273
I tried to boil down your big

650
00:26:03,273 --> 00:26:03,807
picture stuff to something I can

651
00:26:03,807 --> 00:26:05,807
understand.

652
00:26:08,544 --> 00:26:11,247
Under our water 2120 plan, we've

653
00:26:11,247 --> 00:26:13,382
accommodated for the area's

654
00:26:13,382 --> 00:26:14,583
planned growth.

655
00:26:14,583 --> 00:26:15,618
In other words, with all of the

656
00:26:15,618 --> 00:26:17,186
infrastructure that this board

657
00:26:17,186 --> 00:26:19,288
and this authority has planned,

658
00:26:19,288 --> 00:26:21,230
we can accommodate our planned

659
00:26:21,230 --> 00:26:23,759
growth with all of the pieces.

660
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:27,359
But the question I see about

661
00:26:27,429 --> 00:26:30,165
santolina is, are we going to

662
00:26:30,165 --> 00:26:33,100
expand our service area so much

663
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,300
that 9% of the water and the

664
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,538
capacity we need for future

665
00:26:37,538 --> 00:26:41,108
growth is allocated to a new

666
00:26:41,108 --> 00:26:45,308
area, coo -- to me that sounds

667
00:26:47,348 --> 00:26:49,250
like we'll have a 9% deficiency,

668
00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:50,184
or that would limit growth in

669
00:26:50,184 --> 00:26:52,184
the current area.

670
00:26:56,256 --> 00:26:59,256
Is that the trade-off here?

671
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:01,594
>> so, in the water 2120 plan we

672
00:27:01,594 --> 00:27:03,163
did not make the distinction of

673
00:27:03,163 --> 00:27:05,163
where growth happen.

674
00:27:06,766 --> 00:27:08,735
Our service area as defined by

675
00:27:08,735 --> 00:27:09,269
state engineers is all of

676
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:11,269
bernalillo county.

677
00:27:12,271 --> 00:27:13,239
Santolina is not outside of

678
00:27:13,239 --> 00:27:14,840
service area.

679
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,809
The land use decisions are not

680
00:27:16,809 --> 00:27:18,711
made by us, and they dictate

681
00:27:18,711 --> 00:27:20,512
where that growth might occur.

682
00:27:20,512 --> 00:27:21,780
Our water supply would be

683
00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:23,649
available to serve that growth

684
00:27:23,649 --> 00:27:26,151
in santolina and because we

685
00:27:26,151 --> 00:27:27,919
allocate that supply to them,

686
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,454
that would stop future

687
00:27:29,454 --> 00:27:30,589
allocation of that same amount

688
00:27:30,589 --> 00:27:32,589
of supply.

689
00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:34,893
Just like if we approved in the

690
00:27:34,893 --> 00:27:36,728
development agreement tonight,

691
00:27:36,728 --> 00:27:37,829
that would be service area

692
00:27:37,829 --> 00:27:39,564
committed to somebody else.

693
00:27:39,564 --> 00:27:41,899
However it's not going to take

694
00:27:41,899 --> 00:27:42,500
water supplies from our existing

695
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,500
service area.

696
00:27:44,802 --> 00:27:46,237
We have enough supplies to serve

697
00:27:46,237 --> 00:27:48,239
within our existing boundary,

698
00:27:48,239 --> 00:27:48,539
that is the purple area on that

699
00:27:48,539 --> 00:27:50,539
graph.

700
00:27:51,975 --> 00:27:55,312
To the extent that we make a

701
00:27:55,312 --> 00:27:57,470
commitment today we're

702
00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:59,447
committing those resources into

703
00:28:00,183 --> 00:28:03,520
the future which could go to

704
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,388
land use or expansion in other

705
00:28:05,388 --> 00:28:06,189
areas.

706
00:28:06,189 --> 00:28:08,291
>> Councilor Davis: we talked

707
00:28:08,291 --> 00:28:10,493
about remaineders of available

708
00:28:10,493 --> 00:28:12,128
capacity

709
00:28:12,128 --> 00:28:13,950
capacity, east and west side

710
00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:15,950
being different.

711
00:28:15,231 --> 00:28:18,231
Santolina would take 9% of our

712
00:28:19,501 --> 00:28:21,501
future capacity, right?

713
00:28:22,638 --> 00:28:25,400
What percent of the west side

714
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,340
remainder would santolina take

715
00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:27,750
away?

716
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:28,177
What would it limit the

717
00:28:28,177 --> 00:28:30,177
remainder to be?

718
00:28:30,479 --> 00:28:33,682
>> as I tried to state, and

719
00:28:33,682 --> 00:28:36,784
maybe I wasn't very good at it,

720
00:28:36,784 --> 00:28:38,987
we have a deficiency.

721
00:28:38,987 --> 00:28:41,387
We've legally committed our

722
00:28:41,856 --> 00:28:43,958
existing capacity both on the

723
00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:44,258
interceptor and ground water

724
00:28:44,258 --> 00:28:46,258
side.

725
00:28:46,794 --> 00:28:49,794
To our development agreement,s

726
00:28:50,798 --> 00:28:52,333
contracts, and our service area

727
00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:54,733
on the west side.

728
00:28:57,471 --> 00:28:59,906
We're at the service limit.

729
00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:02,142
It's going to need additional

730
00:29:02,142 --> 00:29:04,542
infrastructure or exchanges with

731
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:10,214
the bosque plant.

732
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:12,952
>> thank you to Madam Chair and

733
00:29:12,952 --> 00:29:13,853
the staff for reschedule

734
00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:15,853
ing the

735
00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:17,690
November meeting and redoing

736
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:19,690
this conversation.

737
00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:23,280
Can you explain where we are

738
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,970
procedurally in terms of what

739
00:29:25,970 --> 00:29:28,697
this board is doing tonight and

740
00:29:30,635 --> 00:29:33,205
what will be asked to do in the

741
00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:35,205
future?

742
00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:36,107
>> we are in the first step of

743
00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:38,107
the process.

744
00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:41,277
We've issued serviceability of

745
00:29:42,130 --> 00:29:43,514
the letter, which outlines the

746
00:29:43,514 --> 00:29:45,514
infrastructure requirements.

747
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:47,151
We have to have an availability

748
00:29:47,151 --> 00:29:49,553
statement which is a commitment

749
00:29:49,553 --> 00:29:52,456
of service in some respects with

750
00:29:52,456 --> 00:29:55,456
the xepgds exception of the

751
00:29:55,793 --> 00:29:56,927
fact that it has to come before

752
00:29:56,927 --> 00:29:58,927
this board.

753
00:29:59,620 --> 00:30:01,932
There's been no commitment of

754
00:30:01,932 --> 00:30:03,300
service, we've outlined the

755
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,300
infrastructure agreements that

756
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:07,537
we need and that are proep

757
00:30:07,537 --> 00:30:07,837
posed

758
00:30:07,837 --> 00:30:09,837
there.

759
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,440
>> thank you.

760
00:30:13,576 --> 00:30:15,578
One of the speakers expressed

761
00:30:15,578 --> 00:30:17,978
concerns about return credits,

762
00:30:18,581 --> 00:30:21,550
can you speak to that issue?

763
00:30:21,550 --> 00:30:23,886
>> I don't believe that we have

764
00:30:23,886 --> 00:30:24,220
proposed unlawful return flow

765
00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:26,220
credit.

766
00:30:26,722 --> 00:30:29,525
I'm not sure what that means.

767
00:30:29,525 --> 00:30:31,925
In the bosque serviceability

768
00:30:31,927 --> 00:30:34,329
letter we proposed a new

769
00:30:34,329 --> 00:30:37,329
diversion on the river, that

770
00:30:37,532 --> 00:30:38,867
requires certain permitting to

771
00:30:38,867 --> 00:30:40,867
be done.

772
00:30:41,369 --> 00:30:45,540
If we request a return flow from

773
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:48,976
the bosque we have to go through

774
00:30:48,976 --> 00:30:49,343
the process with the state

775
00:30:49,343 --> 00:30:51,343
engineer.

776
00:30:51,645 --> 00:30:54,810
We've said that in the

777
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:56,810
serviceability statement.

778
00:30:57,551 --> 00:30:59,953
They're not permits that would

779
00:30:59,953 --> 00:31:01,521
never be required, but they

780
00:31:01,521 --> 00:31:03,521
could be required.

781
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,592
>> we also heard a lot of

782
00:31:05,592 --> 00:31:07,992
question about ground water.

783
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,597
Would you mind going back to the

784
00:31:10,597 --> 00:31:11,898
chart with the red graph and

785
00:31:11,898 --> 00:31:13,898
blue graph.

786
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,869
I don't know what number it was.

787
00:31:16,869 --> 00:31:19,269
>> this is it here?

788
00:31:19,639 --> 00:31:21,639
>> yes.

789
00:31:23,109 --> 00:31:25,111
Could you talk about what that

790
00:31:25,111 --> 00:31:27,111
difference between that

791
00:31:27,446 --> 00:31:30,446
available ground line and in

792
00:31:30,916 --> 00:31:34,516
insolid bar means in the chart?

793
00:31:34,553 --> 00:31:34,987
>> sure, I would be glad to do

794
00:31:34,987 --> 00:31:36,987
it.

795
00:31:37,889 --> 00:31:39,925
So, when we looked at the total

796
00:31:39,925 --> 00:31:41,960
demand on the west side and the

797
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360
existing ground water capacity

798
00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:47,699
we have, what we have available

799
00:31:47,699 --> 00:31:48,466
ground water is water that is

800
00:31:48,466 --> 00:31:50,466
available for today.

801
00:31:52,136 --> 00:31:54,538
we have more wells on the west

802
00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:57,538
side than we're using because

803
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,147
they have high arsenic arsenic

804
00:32:04,147 --> 00:32:05,282
concentrations.

805
00:32:05,282 --> 00:32:08,882
If you project what we're doing

806
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,188
today and our legal commitments

807
00:32:12,188 --> 00:32:14,591
in the future, even if we added

808
00:32:14,591 --> 00:32:16,426
the existing ground water that's

809
00:32:16,426 --> 00:32:18,127
unavailable, and it's

810
00:32:18,127 --> 00:32:19,295
unavailable because of arsenic

811
00:32:19,295 --> 00:32:21,464
treatment, we don't have enough

812
00:32:21,464 --> 00:32:22,532
to meet the obligations on the

813
00:32:22,532 --> 00:32:24,532
west side.

814
00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:29,235
We're in a deficit scenario.

815
00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:33,242
>> Mr. Stomp, can I ask the

816
00:32:33,242 --> 00:32:35,642
basic question of whether

817
00:32:36,511 --> 00:32:37,579
santolina increases pumping of

818
00:32:37,579 --> 00:32:38,847
ground water?

819
00:32:38,847 --> 00:32:41,247
>> the answer is no.

820
00:32:41,983 --> 00:32:44,185
The way this plan was formulated

821
00:32:44,185 --> 00:32:47,785
was to be consistent with the

822
00:32:48,189 --> 00:32:48,423
policy, which is 20

823
00:32:48,423 --> 00:32:50,423
120.

824
00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:55,963
It limits ground water use by

825
00:32:55,963 --> 00:32:58,363
transitioning to other supplies.

826
00:32:58,399 --> 00:32:58,699
That's what water 2120 is all

827
00:32:58,699 --> 00:33:00,699
about.

828
00:33:00,734 --> 00:33:03,134
No it will not.

829
00:33:04,571 --> 00:33:07,641
I will be glad to do a

830
00:33:07,641 --> 00:33:09,776
presentation to show how we

831
00:33:09,776 --> 00:33:12,776
think these resources will be

832
00:33:14,314 --> 00:33:15,115
allocated and how it meets water

833
00:33:15,115 --> 00:33:16,883
2120.

834
00:33:16,883 --> 00:33:17,250
>> Councilor Jones: commissioner

835
00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:17,984
o'malley.

836
00:33:17,984 --> 00:33:18,852
>> Commissioner o'Malley: thank

837
00:33:18,852 --> 00:33:20,420
you, Madam Chair.

838
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:23,420
There's been discussion back and

839
00:33:24,557 --> 00:33:28,157
forth about the source of water.

840
00:33:29,295 --> 00:33:32,895
You mentioned that it looks like

841
00:33:33,265 --> 00:33:36,101
like -- the well water for

842
00:33:36,101 --> 00:33:37,936
santolina is not ground water.

843
00:33:37,936 --> 00:33:40,936
It's since we're changing to

844
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:45,477
mostly ebriver -- river water.

845
00:33:45,477 --> 00:33:47,877
Because there's changing in

846
00:33:48,179 --> 00:33:49,581
needs of the community, but

847
00:33:49,581 --> 00:33:50,548
further down where the water

848
00:33:50,548 --> 00:33:52,548
ends up.

849
00:33:52,684 --> 00:33:55,219
I'm hearing it's not the same

850
00:33:55,219 --> 00:33:56,520
water or not the same source of

851
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,421
water, but it's the same source

852
00:33:57,421 --> 00:33:59,421
of water.

853
00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:02,259
You're changing it by cleaning

854
00:34:02,259 --> 00:34:03,360
it up, but it's really same

855
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,261
source of water.

856
00:34:04,261 --> 00:34:05,629
I think that's important for

857
00:34:05,629 --> 00:34:07,629
people to understand.

858
00:34:07,965 --> 00:34:09,990
We've got two sources of water.

859
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:12,990
Water coming down the river

860
00:34:13,203 --> 00:34:15,772
which is a portion of it is

861
00:34:15,772 --> 00:34:17,674
private water which we secured

862
00:34:17,674 --> 00:34:19,674
way back when.

863
00:34:19,743 --> 00:34:20,710
Which it effects the

864
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:22,710
agricultural use.

865
00:34:25,982 --> 00:34:27,717
We've been pretty generous in

866
00:34:27,717 --> 00:34:29,785
holding water and making

867
00:34:29,785 --> 00:34:32,185
available for agricultural use,

868
00:34:32,221 --> 00:34:34,890
and I hope we can continue that.

869
00:34:34,890 --> 00:34:36,558
Of course, we don't know what

870
00:34:36,558 --> 00:34:40,758
the situation will be in in the

871
00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:43,965
future in terms of runoff and

872
00:34:43,965 --> 00:34:45,965
water.

873
00:34:49,871 --> 00:34:52,271
Am I misunderstanding this?

874
00:34:52,707 --> 00:34:55,107
We're asking this large

875
00:34:55,443 --> 00:34:57,979
development to say, yes you're

876
00:34:57,979 --> 00:35:00,815
going to put in a system to

877
00:35:00,815 --> 00:35:02,983
reuse, you're going to clean it.

878
00:35:02,983 --> 00:35:04,218
You're going to put in

879
00:35:04,218 --> 00:35:06,218
wastewater statement, you're

880
00:35:09,790 --> 00:35:11,491
going to have pay it, and we're

881
00:35:11,491 --> 00:35:12,426
really talking about two sources

882
00:35:12,426 --> 00:35:14,426
of water.

883
00:35:17,697 --> 00:35:20,600
Am I wrong in that?

884
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,468
>> I don't think you're wrong.

885
00:35:22,468 --> 00:35:25,380
For example, if you're pumping

886
00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:28,380
ground water and you a

887
00:35:29,442 --> 00:35:31,811
wastewater return flow, is that

888
00:35:31,811 --> 00:35:34,211
wastewater or ground water?

889
00:35:34,346 --> 00:35:34,647
It's the use of that same ground

890
00:35:34,647 --> 00:35:36,647
water.

891
00:35:36,949 --> 00:35:38,817
If you're diverting service

892
00:35:38,817 --> 00:35:40,252
water, you're not consuming it,

893
00:35:40,252 --> 00:35:41,453
it's available through

894
00:35:41,453 --> 00:35:43,453
wastewater returns.

895
00:35:45,624 --> 00:35:47,192
It's still surface water.

896
00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:48,260
Nonetheless it's the same source

897
00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:49,494
of supply.

898
00:35:49,494 --> 00:35:50,195
People have different ways of

899
00:35:50,195 --> 00:35:52,195
saying it.

900
00:35:52,263 --> 00:35:55,300
But the answer is yes, we have

901
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,802
surface water and that surface

902
00:35:57,802 --> 00:36:00,138
water can be native water and we

903
00:36:00,138 --> 00:36:01,872
have ground water and we have

904
00:36:01,872 --> 00:36:04,272
return flows or wastewater

905
00:36:05,676 --> 00:36:06,877
associated with those supplies.

906
00:36:06,877 --> 00:36:08,877
>> Commissioner o'Malley: it's

907
00:36:09,346 --> 00:36:10,547
the same source of water?

908
00:36:10,547 --> 00:36:12,547
>> correct.

909
00:36:13,584 --> 00:36:14,151
>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

910
00:36:14,151 --> 00:36:14,885
Commissioner quezada.

911
00:36:14,885 --> 00:36:17,285
>> Commissioner Quezada: we know

912
00:36:17,354 --> 00:36:20,390
that the growth of the city has

913
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:21,825
always been in the last 20 years

914
00:36:21,825 --> 00:36:24,225
on the west side.

915
00:36:28,297 --> 00:36:30,990
All the way a far up a ventana

916
00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:32,168
ranch, the city of albuquerque

917
00:36:32,168 --> 00:36:34,236
has allowed developers to build

918
00:36:34,236 --> 00:36:34,537
homes all across the southwest

919
00:36:34,537 --> 00:36:36,537
mesa.

920
00:36:37,473 --> 00:36:39,642
My question is why haven't we

921
00:36:39,642 --> 00:36:41,410
had those developers look at how

922
00:36:41,410 --> 00:36:44,413
they use water and why weren't

923
00:36:44,413 --> 00:36:48,130
they part of this whole plan?

924
00:36:48,383 --> 00:36:50,152
Why didn't they pay for water

925
00:36:50,152 --> 00:36:53,152
treatment on the west side?

926
00:36:54,789 --> 00:36:56,858
We look at statistics on thou

927
00:36:56,858 --> 00:36:59,894
city is growing and maybe not

928
00:36:59,894 --> 00:37:02,290
growing, but my concern is is

929
00:37:02,290 --> 00:37:05,629
that the slow growth that is

930
00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:09,267
taking place is moving west.

931
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,406
Why did the city of albuquerque

932
00:37:12,406 --> 00:37:14,806
not require developers before

933
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:16,843
we're talking about this big

934
00:37:16,843 --> 00:37:20,800
development on the west side on

935
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,148
how we use water and the way

936
00:37:22,148 --> 00:37:25,185
water is being used and reused

937
00:37:25,185 --> 00:37:25,518
and all of these sorts of

938
00:37:25,518 --> 00:37:27,518
things?

939
00:37:27,654 --> 00:37:29,255
Can you answer that question?

940
00:37:29,255 --> 00:37:30,757
>> I don't know that I can

941
00:37:30,757 --> 00:37:31,657
answer why the city of

942
00:37:31,657 --> 00:37:33,559
albuquerque did that.

943
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:35,995
As the policies for the city

944
00:37:35,995 --> 00:37:38,995
prior to the water authority,

945
00:37:39,131 --> 00:37:41,400
and now water 2120, we serve

946
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,350
those developments that were

947
00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:45,537
approved land use whether it was

948
00:37:45,537 --> 00:37:47,973
city or county, we served those

949
00:37:47,973 --> 00:37:50,208
consistent with the policies.

950
00:37:50,208 --> 00:37:52,770
Our policies have changed as

951
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:53,411
we've learned and managed and

952
00:37:53,411 --> 00:37:55,460
continued to grow and our

953
00:37:55,460 --> 00:37:56,581
understanding of the various

954
00:37:56,581 --> 00:37:57,150
supplies our policies have

955
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:59,150
changed.

956
00:37:59,417 --> 00:38:00,285
In the past we're 100% ground

957
00:38:00,285 --> 00:38:02,285
water.

958
00:38:03,154 --> 00:38:04,555
When we understood that was not

959
00:38:04,555 --> 00:38:06,490
sustainable, we changed to

960
00:38:06,490 --> 00:38:08,890
surface, ground and reuse.

961
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,128
Now we're going to have to go

962
00:38:11,128 --> 00:38:12,796
further with reuse and conserve

963
00:38:12,796 --> 00:38:14,796
more and more.

964
00:38:15,399 --> 00:38:16,867
All of these things play into

965
00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:17,835
how growth has occurred in

966
00:38:17,835 --> 00:38:19,803
albuquerque over time.

967
00:38:19,803 --> 00:38:23,730
The growth that did occur did

968
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:25,842
pay their fair share, just like

969
00:38:25,842 --> 00:38:26,142
everybody else paid their fair

970
00:38:26,142 --> 00:38:27,744
share.

971
00:38:27,744 --> 00:38:28,745
The charge is going to be based

972
00:38:28,745 --> 00:38:30,745
on infrastructure requirements

973
00:38:32,248 --> 00:38:35,848
as part of water 2120, before it

974
00:38:42,491 --> 00:38:42,791
was based on purchasing water

975
00:38:42,791 --> 00:38:43,926
roirth

976
00:38:43,926 --> 00:38:44,660
rights, the basis for that

977
00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:47,660
calculation has changed and the

978
00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:48,263
infrastructure requirements has

979
00:38:48,263 --> 00:38:50,263
changed.

980
00:38:50,766 --> 00:38:53,350
We're not changing the way we do

981
00:38:53,350 --> 00:38:54,369
business, what's changed is the

982
00:38:54,369 --> 00:38:55,470
understanding and how we serve

983
00:38:55,470 --> 00:38:57,305
those communities.

984
00:38:57,305 --> 00:38:58,840
They've paid their fair share,

985
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,241
what our understanding of the

986
00:39:00,241 --> 00:39:02,443
fair share was at the time.

987
00:39:02,443 --> 00:39:04,443
Our policies change.

988
00:39:06,848 --> 00:39:07,415
Water 2120 is not the end of the

989
00:39:07,415 --> 00:39:09,415
story.

990
00:39:09,417 --> 00:39:11,585
We're going to come back and

991
00:39:11,585 --> 00:39:13,985
revisit this and evaluate

992
00:39:14,488 --> 00:39:15,689
climate change, and we've in

993
00:39:15,689 --> 00:39:17,224
incorporated for climate change

994
00:39:17,224 --> 00:39:17,958
with the best available

995
00:39:17,958 --> 00:39:19,393
information.

996
00:39:19,393 --> 00:39:21,628
It could get worse.

997
00:39:21,628 --> 00:39:24,464
We have that process in place.

998
00:39:24,464 --> 00:39:24,898
Those policies are going to

999
00:39:24,898 --> 00:39:26,898
change.

1000
00:39:29,903 --> 00:39:31,304
Our conservation plan is 110

1001
00:39:31,304 --> 00:39:32,472
gallons per day.

1002
00:39:32,472 --> 00:39:35,275
We're going to continue to grow

1003
00:39:35,275 --> 00:39:36,309
and serve our customers, and our

1004
00:39:36,309 --> 00:39:38,711
policies are going to continue

1005
00:39:38,711 --> 00:39:41,547
to evolve as that does too.

1006
00:39:41,547 --> 00:39:42,915
I hope that answer your question

1007
00:39:42,915 --> 00:39:44,915
commissioner quezada.

1008
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:45,651
>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

1009
00:39:45,651 --> 00:39:46,685
Councilor pe}a.

1010
00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:48,353
>> Councilor Pe}a: thank you,

1011
00:39:48,353 --> 00:39:50,353
Madam Chair.

1012
00:39:50,923 --> 00:39:53,580
Mr. Stomp, answer basic

1013
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:55,580
questions for me.

1014
00:39:56,194 --> 00:39:59,794
We're talking about the water of

1015
00:40:00,650 --> 00:40:03,650
santolina and any other proposed

1016
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,801
development whether small big.

1017
00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:10,639
When we look at the population

1018
00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:11,676
growth it ends at a million or

1019
00:40:11,676 --> 00:40:13,676
something like that.

1020
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,130
Does the amount of water we use

1021
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:18,130
change?

1022
00:40:18,649 --> 00:40:20,417
>> Madam Chair, councilor pe}a,

1023
00:40:20,417 --> 00:40:24,170
yes, it does change because we

1024
00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:27,190
have a conivation goal.

1025
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:29,659
That's probably not the end of

1026
00:40:29,659 --> 00:40:31,328
the story, we're going to reduce

1027
00:40:31,328 --> 00:40:33,328
our use.

1028
00:40:35,899 --> 00:40:37,667
We've reduced our use 1gpc even

1029
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:38,868
though it's a drought.

1030
00:40:38,868 --> 00:40:39,802
We're going to continue to

1031
00:40:39,802 --> 00:40:41,802
change that.

1032
00:40:42,138 --> 00:40:45,138
We're going to continue to

1033
00:40:45,341 --> 00:40:48,341
evolve it in that way.

1034
00:40:49,511 --> 00:40:49,778
Our demand has reduesed

1035
00:40:49,778 --> 00:40:50,790
ed

1036
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:50,346
ed

1037
00:40:50,346 --> 00:40:51,814
ed

1038
00:40:51,814 --> 00:40:52,147
ed --

1039
00:40:52,147 --> 00:40:54,830
reduced.

1040
00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:55,817
I would consider that those

1041
00:40:55,817 --> 00:40:57,786
things are -- are we always

1042
00:40:57,786 --> 00:40:58,860
going to continue to use less

1043
00:40:58,860 --> 00:40:59,921
water?

1044
00:40:59,921 --> 00:41:00,856
I would say no that's going to

1045
00:41:00,856 --> 00:41:02,856
be the case.

1046
00:41:04,459 --> 00:41:05,660
Demand is going to increase some

1047
00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:06,828
day, of course.

1048
00:41:06,828 --> 00:41:07,595
>> Councilor Pe}a: I should be

1049
00:41:07,595 --> 00:41:09,595
more clear.

1050
00:41:09,997 --> 00:41:13,301
My question is, whether we build

1051
00:41:13,301 --> 00:41:16,704
within the city now or whether

1052
00:41:16,704 --> 00:41:19,974
we add a development, is the

1053
00:41:19,974 --> 00:41:22,109
amount of water necessary

1054
00:41:22,109 --> 00:41:24,178
outside of all of the reuse

1055
00:41:24,178 --> 00:41:27,178
measure we're going to take,

1056
00:41:28,915 --> 00:41:32,219
will I I think I under the question.

1057
00:41:32,219 --> 00:41:33,920
In 20

1058
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
120 we assumed that

1059
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:39,589
population growth, it was inside

1060
00:41:40,126 --> 00:41:42,462
or outside the boundaries, the

1061
00:41:42,462 --> 00:41:43,496
water use associated with that

1062
00:41:43,496 --> 00:41:46,496
population growth will be the

1063
00:41:47,366 --> 00:41:48,267
same no matter where it occurs.

1064
00:41:48,267 --> 00:41:49,602
>> Councilor Pe}a: so, it

1065
00:41:49,602 --> 00:41:51,602
doesn't change?

1066
00:41:54,907 --> 00:41:58,430
So whether it's all of a sudden

1067
00:41:58,430 --> 00:42:00,679
we had the availability to buy

1068
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,781
and purchase property somewhere

1069
00:42:02,781 --> 00:42:03,748
else outside, it would remain

1070
00:42:03,748 --> 00:42:05,748
the same.

1071
00:42:07,619 --> 00:42:10,588
So my other question is that in

1072
00:42:10,588 --> 00:42:12,590
terms of the infrastructure, so

1073
00:42:12,590 --> 00:42:14,990
there's probably some concerns

1074
00:42:15,126 --> 00:42:18,126
in terms of infrastructure being

1075
00:42:18,763 --> 00:42:22,132
built as we grow the city, would

1076
00:42:22,132 --> 00:42:23,667
those needs be comparable if we

1077
00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:26,667
just grew within the city

1078
00:42:26,770 --> 00:42:28,805
because of old infrastructure?

1079
00:42:28,805 --> 00:42:30,941
>> that's a very difficult

1080
00:42:30,941 --> 00:42:32,342
question to ask, it really

1081
00:42:32,342 --> 00:42:34,742
depends on the demand.

1082
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:39,790
If the demand in the

1083
00:42:42,285 --> 00:42:42,585
redevelopment areas, like knob

1084
00:42:42,585 --> 00:42:44,585
hill.

1085
00:42:44,854 --> 00:42:47,854
The demand stays the same.

1086
00:42:48,157 --> 00:42:51,757
If we build high rise, we're

1087
00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:54,363
going to need more demand and

1088
00:42:54,363 --> 00:42:56,980
fire protection needs.

1089
00:42:56,980 --> 00:42:56,565
It will require additional

1090
00:42:56,565 --> 00:42:58,500
infrastructure.

1091
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:00,235
We have that going on right now.

1092
00:43:00,235 --> 00:43:02,235
There's development along

1093
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:06,710
central avenue where it's not

1094
00:43:06,207 --> 00:43:08,209
capable for water demands.

1095
00:43:08,209 --> 00:43:09,344
Developers are responsible for

1096
00:43:09,344 --> 00:43:10,145
building water infrastructure to

1097
00:43:10,145 --> 00:43:11,546
do that.

1098
00:43:11,546 --> 00:43:13,470
It's depending on what the

1099
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:14,983
development looks like.

1100
00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:17,418
Whether it's inside or out

1101
00:43:17,418 --> 00:43:17,785
infrastructure can still be

1102
00:43:17,785 --> 00:43:18,786
required.

1103
00:43:18,786 --> 00:43:19,153
>> Councilor Pe}a: one last

1104
00:43:19,153 --> 00:43:21,153
question.

1105
00:43:23,257 --> 00:43:25,759
So if we don't do this

1106
00:43:25,759 --> 00:43:28,159
development, you know, really

1107
00:43:28,662 --> 00:43:30,970
we're growing as a city and as

1108
00:43:30,970 --> 00:43:32,970
commissioner quezada stated,

1109
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:32,666
people are moving to the west

1110
00:43:32,666 --> 00:43:34,666
side.

1111
00:43:35,168 --> 00:43:38,905
One of my fears is that I'm born

1112
00:43:38,905 --> 00:43:42,142
and raised in the south valley

1113
00:43:42,142 --> 00:43:45,712
and all the agriculture and farm

1114
00:43:45,712 --> 00:43:48,447
lands and how unique it is to

1115
00:43:48,447 --> 00:43:51,447
the city of albuquerque, my

1116
00:43:53,185 --> 00:43:56,185
concern is that would densify

1117
00:43:57,890 --> 00:44:00,890
that area especially with what

1118
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:02,794
you have -- you have the abc

1119
00:44:02,794 --> 00:44:04,429
comprehensive plan that is in

1120
00:44:04,429 --> 00:44:06,298
hopes that the county is going

1121
00:44:06,298 --> 00:44:08,298
to adopt that.

1122
00:44:10,902 --> 00:44:12,704
I see that is densifying the

1123
00:44:12,704 --> 00:44:14,672
south valley and it would have

1124
00:44:14,672 --> 00:44:17,672
the same growth and need.

1125
00:44:19,811 --> 00:44:23,411
I'm afraid that it would egroed

1126
00:44:23,914 --> 00:44:24,348
egroed -- erode the south

1127
00:44:24,348 --> 00:44:26,348
valley.

1128
00:44:28,285 --> 00:44:30,685
>> it development did occurred

1129
00:44:31,355 --> 00:44:35,555
in this area or some place else,

1130
00:44:35,926 --> 00:44:37,761
it's going to effect what it

1131
00:44:37,761 --> 00:44:39,761
looks like.

1132
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:43,233
Where would people locate if

1133
00:44:43,233 --> 00:44:45,633
santolina wasn't developed, I

1134
00:44:46,102 --> 00:44:46,970
don't think I can answer that

1135
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:48,905
question.

1136
00:44:48,905 --> 00:44:50,905
>> Councilor Jones: commissioner

1137
00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:52,742
o'malley.

1138
00:44:52,742 --> 00:44:54,742
>> Commissioner o'Malley: I

1139
00:44:55,878 --> 00:44:58,614
think I just wanted to lay out

1140
00:44:58,614 --> 00:44:59,848
that when we're doing

1141
00:44:59,848 --> 00:45:00,949
redevelopment projects we have

1142
00:45:00,949 --> 00:45:02,949
existing infrastructure.

1143
00:45:03,385 --> 00:45:06,385
I'm glad we're putting resources

1144
00:45:06,722 --> 00:45:09,122
into existing infrastructure and

1145
00:45:11,326 --> 00:45:13,326
we have infrastructure.

1146
00:45:13,461 --> 00:45:15,763
Frankly that money didn't get

1147
00:45:15,763 --> 00:45:19,363
put in there when taxes were

1148
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,269
being paid for years and years,

1149
00:45:21,269 --> 00:45:23,738
so we have the infrastructure

1150
00:45:23,738 --> 00:45:25,973
that needed rehab and I'm glad

1151
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:27,973
we're do it.

1152
00:45:29,276 --> 00:45:30,544
We're having to rehab that no

1153
00:45:30,544 --> 00:45:32,944
matter where the infrastructure

1154
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:33,747
is, it's not totally new

1155
00:45:33,747 --> 00:45:35,747
infrastructure.

1156
00:45:35,949 --> 00:45:38,852
I think to be -- we've never

1157
00:45:38,852 --> 00:45:41,454
seen anything like this in terms

1158
00:45:41,454 --> 00:45:44,457
of how large the development is.

1159
00:45:44,457 --> 00:45:44,891
We're talking about thousands of

1160
00:45:44,891 --> 00:45:46,891
acres.

1161
00:45:47,327 --> 00:45:49,329
We've never seen request for a

1162
00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:50,897
zone change that large.

1163
00:45:50,897 --> 00:45:52,832
We've never dealt with the

1164
00:45:52,832 --> 00:45:53,199
development agreement of this

1165
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:54,834
nature.

1166
00:45:54,834 --> 00:45:57,670
It's all new to us.

1167
00:45:57,670 --> 00:46:01,270
I believe the water authority is

1168
00:46:03,842 --> 00:46:05,410
really -- I think we're doing

1169
00:46:05,410 --> 00:46:08,410
great work making sure existing

1170
00:46:09,247 --> 00:46:11,647
rate payers, and the

1171
00:46:11,917 --> 00:46:14,317
agricultural need, because it's

1172
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,188
important to balance those.

1173
00:46:17,188 --> 00:46:18,560
I just wanted to make that

1174
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,456
statement because I think

1175
00:46:20,725 --> 00:46:21,159
sometimes we get a lot of

1176
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,159
criticism.

1177
00:46:24,729 --> 00:46:26,430
I just want to make that in

1178
00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:28,830
terms of bond capacity.

1179
00:46:29,166 --> 00:46:30,401
We're putting a lot of resources

1180
00:46:30,401 --> 00:46:32,202
into capital.

1181
00:46:32,202 --> 00:46:33,971
Not only in the existing areas,

1182
00:46:33,971 --> 00:46:36,373
but places all over the west

1183
00:46:36,373 --> 00:46:36,740
side that have not been

1184
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:37,941
rehabbed.

1185
00:46:37,941 --> 00:46:39,743
I think it's important that the

1186
00:46:39,743 --> 00:46:42,743
resources go there as well.

1187
00:46:43,947 --> 00:46:45,817
It looks like the plan, when

1188
00:46:45,817 --> 00:46:47,150
you're looking at this picture,

1189
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:48,518
you're looking at reuse.

1190
00:46:48,518 --> 00:46:49,886
We're going to have to clean up

1191
00:46:49,886 --> 00:46:52,286
a lot of water.

1192
00:46:52,889 --> 00:46:54,724
This isn't the standard plan.

1193
00:46:54,724 --> 00:46:57,260
This isn't we're just going to

1194
00:46:57,260 --> 00:47:00,626
take water, we're looking at a

1195
00:47:00,830 --> 00:47:03,230
whole new approach delivery.

1196
00:47:05,567 --> 00:47:07,736
I think it's very thoughtful and

1197
00:47:07,736 --> 00:47:09,538
we'll see as we move forward.

1198
00:47:09,538 --> 00:47:11,139
I just think you have thought a

1199
00:47:11,139 --> 00:47:12,974
lot of things through, I

1200
00:47:12,974 --> 00:47:13,909
appreciate that.

1201
00:47:13,909 --> 00:47:14,376
>> Councilor Jones: commissioner

1202
00:47:14,376 --> 00:47:16,278
quezada.

1203
00:47:16,278 --> 00:47:18,678
>> Commissioner Quezada: we did

1204
00:47:21,149 --> 00:47:23,117
put new infrastructure in los

1205
00:47:23,117 --> 00:47:25,319
padillas, and we're able to do

1206
00:47:25,319 --> 00:47:26,454
that with the help of water

1207
00:47:26,454 --> 00:47:28,854
authority and bernalillo county.

1208
00:47:30,858 --> 00:47:32,993
There's still parts of the unin

1209
00:47:32,993 --> 00:47:33,327
unincorporated area that is

1210
00:47:33,327 --> 00:47:35,327
needed.

1211
00:47:37,265 --> 00:47:39,666
I wanted to address the comment

1212
00:47:39,666 --> 00:47:43,266
from councilor pe}a, I'm the

1213
00:47:45,505 --> 00:47:47,700
commissioner and I overlook the

1214
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:49,700
south valley.

1215
00:47:49,642 --> 00:47:53,842
I spent the first year and a

1216
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:56,980
half to protect anderson farms

1217
00:47:57,283 --> 00:48:00,720
and I lost a big chunk of it.

1218
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,880
Every week, there's people who

1219
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,658
own land in the south valley

1220
00:48:05,658 --> 00:48:07,860
that come from families that

1221
00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:08,660
were farmers and growing and

1222
00:48:08,660 --> 00:48:10,660
selling it.

1223
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,497
They're moving to the northeast

1224
00:48:12,497 --> 00:48:14,897
heights where they have

1225
00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:16,100
amenities and different types of

1226
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,100
ways of living.

1227
00:48:18,103 --> 00:48:19,571
We have developers looking at

1228
00:48:19,571 --> 00:48:22,571
that land all the time.

1229
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,275
It goes to the cpc, it doesn't

1230
00:48:24,275 --> 00:48:26,275
come to me.

1231
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:31,282
If the cpc approves on that

1232
00:48:31,282 --> 00:48:31,615
agricultural land, it's lost

1233
00:48:31,615 --> 00:48:33,615
forever.

1234
00:48:34,151 --> 00:48:36,420
As the city grows, I'd like to

1235
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:37,540
not see it grow on the

1236
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:39,540
agricultural land.

1237
00:48:39,423 --> 00:48:42,159
I'd like to keep that for the

1238
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:43,994
future of albuquerque and

1239
00:48:43,994 --> 00:48:46,363
bernalillo county because that's

1240
00:48:46,363 --> 00:48:46,696
makes us unique than any other

1241
00:48:46,696 --> 00:48:48,164
county.

1242
00:48:48,164 --> 00:48:50,333
I wanted to address that because

1243
00:48:50,333 --> 00:48:50,633
you don't see that much in the

1244
00:48:50,633 --> 00:48:52,633
city.

1245
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:55,338
I see it in a weeky basis in the

1246
00:48:55,338 --> 00:48:57,338
county.

1247
00:48:57,940 --> 00:48:59,442
People are going after that

1248
00:48:59,442 --> 00:49:01,778
agricultural land, they want to

1249
00:49:01,778 --> 00:49:03,778
build apartments.

1250
00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:05,781
And that's not what the

1251
00:49:05,781 --> 00:49:07,683
southivaly is for.

1252
00:49:07,683 --> 00:49:08,951
We have to figure out the

1253
00:49:08,951 --> 00:49:11,653
compromise, and how do we serve

1254
00:49:11,653 --> 00:49:12,187
the needs of how this city

1255
00:49:12,187 --> 00:49:14,890
grows.

1256
00:49:14,890 --> 00:49:16,158
I think we'll differ on how it's

1257
00:49:16,158 --> 00:49:16,525
growing, or the way it's

1258
00:49:16,525 --> 00:49:18,525
growing.

1259
00:49:19,527 --> 00:49:22,664
I don't rely on statistics, I

1260
00:49:22,664 --> 00:49:25,366
rely on what I see out my door

1261
00:49:25,366 --> 00:49:26,167
and window when I'm driving in

1262
00:49:26,167 --> 00:49:28,167
albuquerque every day.

1263
00:49:29,303 --> 00:49:30,138
Those are my concerns and

1264
00:49:30,138 --> 00:49:32,138
fights.

1265
00:49:32,273 --> 00:49:32,974
I have to agree with

1266
00:49:32,974 --> 00:49:35,374
commissioner o'malley that we

1267
00:49:36,110 --> 00:49:39,213
have to really look at how water

1268
00:49:39,213 --> 00:49:40,547
is used because that's precious

1269
00:49:40,547 --> 00:49:42,547
to everybody.

1270
00:49:44,384 --> 00:49:48,155
It should be just as precious to

1271
00:49:48,155 --> 00:49:50,555
any developers moving west.

1272
00:49:51,224 --> 00:49:53,326
Without water, why build

1273
00:49:53,326 --> 00:49:54,160
anything and try to provide that

1274
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
for the city.

1275
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:57,664
I wanted to address that.

1276
00:49:57,664 --> 00:49:59,532
Thank you.

1277
00:49:59,532 --> 00:50:01,932
>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

1278
00:50:03,736 --> 00:50:05,371
>> thank you, and I think we

1279
00:50:05,371 --> 00:50:05,938
have many months to discuss

1280
00:50:05,938 --> 00:50:07,938
this.

1281
00:50:08,107 --> 00:50:09,408
We didn't talk about dollars and

1282
00:50:09,408 --> 00:50:11,408
cents here.

1283
00:50:11,844 --> 00:50:15,470
And I know some of the public

1284
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:17,883
comment were about full cost

1285
00:50:17,883 --> 00:50:19,985
recovery, or premature given the

1286
00:50:19,985 --> 00:50:22,354
water supply charge analysis.

1287
00:50:22,354 --> 00:50:24,789
Could you speak to those points?

1288
00:50:24,789 --> 00:50:27,789
>> I think the water supply

1289
00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:30,161
charge will be coming, and the

1290
00:50:30,161 --> 00:50:30,862
discussion will be soon I

1291
00:50:30,862 --> 00:50:32,296
believe.

1292
00:50:32,296 --> 00:50:33,397
Whatever that change is going to

1293
00:50:33,397 --> 00:50:35,797
be it's before you.

1294
00:50:38,969 --> 00:50:39,503
In terms of the no net expense

1295
00:50:39,503 --> 00:50:41,503
policy.

1296
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:44,872
We're going to development in

1297
00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:46,476
that document that is going to

1298
00:50:46,476 --> 00:50:48,512
go with this document so you can

1299
00:50:48,512 --> 00:50:49,746
see in writing and those around

1300
00:50:49,746 --> 00:50:51,581
us that are concerned with the

1301
00:50:51,581 --> 00:50:52,783
development will have an

1302
00:50:52,783 --> 00:50:53,617
opportunity to look at the

1303
00:50:53,617 --> 00:50:56,170
analysis that was done.

1304
00:50:56,152 --> 00:50:58,540
We're committing to doing that.

1305
00:50:58,540 --> 00:50:59,322
When we get further in the

1306
00:50:59,322 --> 00:51:02,922
process we'll be doing that for

1307
00:51:02,992 --> 00:51:07,792
you to show you how we meet the

1308
00:51:11,367 --> 00:51:12,670
no net expense criteria.

1309
00:51:12,670 --> 00:51:12,368
>> Councilor Jones: councilor

1310
00:51:12,368 --> 00:51:13,369
davis.

1311
00:51:13,369 --> 00:51:16,380
>> Councilor Davis: I just want

1312
00:51:16,380 --> 00:51:18,438
to follow that quickly.

1313
00:51:20,108 --> 00:51:21,676
No net expense, we throw that

1314
00:51:21,676 --> 00:51:24,779
around, but I want to make sure

1315
00:51:24,779 --> 00:51:26,214
the folks know how that's

1316
00:51:26,214 --> 00:51:28,214
applied here.

1317
00:51:28,349 --> 00:51:31,949
Are we applying the same rules

1318
00:51:32,153 --> 00:51:34,555
to the santolina review that was

1319
00:51:34,555 --> 00:51:36,457
applied to other developments?

1320
00:51:36,457 --> 00:51:37,658
And I think the answer to that

1321
00:51:37,658 --> 00:51:39,658
is yes.

1322
00:51:42,863 --> 00:51:45,990
We apply a rule that says any

1323
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:48,990
new development whether it's ten

1324
00:51:50,938 --> 00:51:52,205
houses or how many this is, must

1325
00:51:52,205 --> 00:51:54,605
pay their own way.

1326
00:51:54,674 --> 00:51:57,510
This board and this authority

1327
00:51:57,510 --> 00:52:00,510
has ordinances that ensure our

1328
00:52:02,882 --> 00:52:05,882
water rates don't double to

1329
00:52:07,753 --> 00:52:08,154
subsdize someone else's private

1330
00:52:08,154 --> 00:52:09,855
development.

1331
00:52:09,855 --> 00:52:12,925
This is is a big number,

1332
00:52:12,925 --> 00:52:13,192
whatever that number is, rough

1333
00:52:13,192 --> 00:52:13,492
lae

1334
00:52:13,492 --> 00:52:15,492
ly

1335
00:52:16,662 --> 00:52:17,963
roughly -- once we get into the

1336
00:52:17,963 --> 00:52:19,963
numbers for santolina.

1337
00:52:20,766 --> 00:52:23,101
Instead of the 99,000 people to

1338
00:52:23,101 --> 00:52:24,836
be served by santolina, if they

1339
00:52:24,836 --> 00:52:26,605
were to break that into a

1340
00:52:26,605 --> 00:52:28,605
thousand developments for 99

1341
00:52:29,341 --> 00:52:30,775
people, we would go through that

1342
00:52:30,775 --> 00:52:32,210
same evaluation process of

1343
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:34,210
existing infrastructure and

1344
00:52:34,279 --> 00:52:35,913
existing capacity for each of

1345
00:52:35,913 --> 00:52:38,116
those thousand request to

1346
00:52:38,116 --> 00:52:40,840
accommodate the same thing?

1347
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,919
Each of those developers would

1348
00:52:41,919 --> 00:52:42,987
have to pay whatever the

1349
00:52:42,987 --> 00:52:45,987
requirement would be to add

1350
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:47,958
their people to the service.

1351
00:52:47,958 --> 00:52:49,958
>> that's absolutely true.

1352
00:52:51,128 --> 00:52:54,128
Whether it's big development or

1353
00:52:54,631 --> 00:52:55,932
small development, the no net

1354
00:52:55,932 --> 00:52:57,932
development clause applies.

1355
00:52:58,869 --> 00:52:59,269
This happens to be a very large

1356
00:52:59,269 --> 00:53:00,470
development.

1357
00:53:00,470 --> 00:53:03,390
>> Councilor Davis: just as a

1358
00:53:03,390 --> 00:53:05,390
term of reference.

1359
00:53:06,609 --> 00:53:09,312
When mesa del sol came to this

1360
00:53:09,312 --> 00:53:10,213
board the no net expense applied

1361
00:53:10,213 --> 00:53:12,613
to this as well.

1362
00:53:13,649 --> 00:53:16,510
They had to pay all of the

1363
00:53:16,510 --> 00:53:17,586
infrastructure to meet the

1364
00:53:17,586 --> 00:53:20,122
availability so that the payers

1365
00:53:20,122 --> 00:53:20,456
didn't have to pay, is that

1366
00:53:20,456 --> 00:53:21,423
correct?

1367
00:53:21,423 --> 00:53:23,423
>> yes.

1368
00:53:23,525 --> 00:53:23,892
>> Councilor Jones: any more

1369
00:53:23,892 --> 00:53:24,626
questions?

1370
00:53:24,626 --> 00:53:26,626
>> Commissioner Quezada: would

1371
00:53:26,962 --> 00:53:30,562
they have to build a water

1372
00:53:32,934 --> 00:53:35,334
treatment plant eventually we're

1373
00:53:42,443 --> 00:53:44,145
-- we've got 10,000 homes with

1374
00:53:44,145 --> 00:53:45,713
25 different developers, and

1375
00:53:45,713 --> 00:53:46,130
there's no water treatment

1376
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:48,130
plant.

1377
00:53:48,215 --> 00:53:48,983
There's no reuse plan they have

1378
00:53:48,983 --> 00:53:50,983
to pay for.

1379
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:53,887
We have to pay 100% of that

1380
00:53:53,887 --> 00:53:55,887
don't we?

1381
00:53:56,356 --> 00:53:58,925
>> mesa del sol is on the hook

1382
00:53:58,925 --> 00:53:59,459
for a wastewater treatment

1383
00:53:59,459 --> 00:54:00,827
plant.

1384
00:54:00,827 --> 00:54:02,827
That value is 80

1385
00:54:03,463 --> 00:54:05,463
$80 million back

1386
00:54:06,266 --> 00:54:07,900
in 2002.

1387
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:09,735
Don't quote me on that.

1388
00:54:09,735 --> 00:54:11,337
I apologize if that date is off.

1389
00:54:11,337 --> 00:54:13,439
They're on the hook for a water

1390
00:54:13,439 --> 00:54:15,875
system and a second phase water

1391
00:54:15,875 --> 00:54:16,275
system to serve that

1392
00:54:16,275 --> 00:54:18,275
development.

1393
00:54:18,444 --> 00:54:21,444
They're allowed a capacity up

1394
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:28,220
front because we had more at

1395
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:30,220
the time.

1396
00:54:33,325 --> 00:54:33,625
We call that the tijeras reuse

1397
00:54:33,625 --> 00:54:35,625
plant.

1398
00:54:36,494 --> 00:54:39,497
They are on the hook for the

1399
00:54:39,497 --> 00:54:40,265
same type of infrastructure.

1400
00:54:40,265 --> 00:54:42,665
>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

1401
00:54:43,668 --> 00:54:47,868
i would like to make a comment.

1402
00:54:52,242 --> 00:54:52,543
I'm going to let Mr. Waum speak

1403
00:54:52,543 --> 00:54:54,211
first.

1404
00:54:54,211 --> 00:54:54,978
>> good evening.

1405
00:54:54,978 --> 00:54:56,978
Thank you.

1406
00:54:57,848 --> 00:54:59,649
I think that actually subsidy is

1407
00:54:59,649 --> 00:55:01,649
the key issue.

1408
00:55:04,821 --> 00:55:06,122
To what extent will rate payers

1409
00:55:06,122 --> 00:55:07,924
subsidize the developers trying

1410
00:55:07,924 --> 00:55:10,324
to develop this property.

1411
00:55:10,493 --> 00:55:12,462
I heard one interesting thing

1412
00:55:12,462 --> 00:55:14,363
from Mr. Stomp that I support,

1413
00:55:14,363 --> 00:55:15,431
you were told that an

1414
00:55:15,431 --> 00:55:15,798
availability statement will be

1415
00:55:15,798 --> 00:55:17,533
required.

1416
00:55:17,533 --> 00:55:20,302
That's reversal of a position

1417
00:55:20,302 --> 00:55:21,737
that I heard Mr. Stomp

1418
00:55:21,737 --> 00:55:22,705
articulate only a very short

1419
00:55:22,705 --> 00:55:24,705
time ago.

1420
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,774
I was heard that the next step

1421
00:55:25,774 --> 00:55:27,643
would be the development

1422
00:55:27,643 --> 00:55:29,511
agreement and the availability

1423
00:55:29,511 --> 00:55:30,979
statement would be skipped.

1424
00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:33,979
I'm concerned that the estimates

1425
00:55:34,282 --> 00:55:34,549
in the serviceability letter are

1426
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:36,549
low.

1427
00:55:37,185 --> 00:55:38,186
The estimates only appear in the

1428
00:55:38,186 --> 00:55:39,921
albuquerque journal story.

1429
00:55:39,921 --> 00:55:42,321
The serviceability letter does

1430
00:55:42,724 --> 00:55:42,991
not contain the details of the

1431
00:55:42,991 --> 00:55:44,991
600

1432
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,361
$600 million figure that's been

1433
00:55:47,361 --> 00:55:48,129
quoted.

1434
00:55:48,129 --> 00:55:50,129
That 600

1435
00:55:51,310 --> 00:55:52,566
$600 million figure omits

1436
00:55:52,566 --> 00:55:55,135
components that are essential to

1437
00:55:55,135 --> 00:55:57,535
provide service to santolina.

1438
00:55:59,106 --> 00:56:00,674
It provides nothing for the

1439
00:56:00,674 --> 00:56:02,674
water reclamation plant.

1440
00:56:02,676 --> 00:56:04,911
It does not include facilities

1441
00:56:04,911 --> 00:56:05,245
required for indirect potable

1442
00:56:05,245 --> 00:56:07,245
reuse.

1443
00:56:08,810 --> 00:56:09,349
My understanding is that is the

1444
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:11,718
plan for santolina, and

1445
00:56:11,718 --> 00:56:13,718
background documents indicate

1446
00:56:16,689 --> 00:56:20,889
that it must be the plan because

1447
00:56:23,729 --> 00:56:26,699
assume -- there are no reclaim

1448
00:56:26,699 --> 00:56:29,990
in the serviceability letter.

1449
00:56:31,870 --> 00:56:34,270
Service also requires on

1450
00:56:35,941 --> 00:56:38,430
facilities will be incredibly

1451
00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:41,430
expensive to build and maintain.

1452
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,490
So the question for no net

1453
00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:47,618
expense is will cost be

1454
00:56:47,618 --> 00:56:50,180
recovered associated with these

1455
00:56:50,621 --> 00:56:53,621
high marginal cost of operating

1456
00:56:53,991 --> 00:56:56,930
these plants that would not be

1457
00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:58,295
required if not for santolina.

1458
00:56:58,295 --> 00:56:59,730
The serviceability letter says

1459
00:56:59,730 --> 00:57:01,165
that the developer should

1460
00:57:01,165 --> 00:57:01,598
reconsider it's feeze

1461
00:57:01,598 --> 00:57:02,599
asibility

1462
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:04,599
feasibility.

1463
00:57:04,701 --> 00:57:05,101
The feasibility of this

1464
00:57:05,101 --> 00:57:07,101
development.

1465
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,875
Shunt -- shouldn't the

1466
00:57:11,875 --> 00:57:13,643
feasibility statements be based

1467
00:57:13,643 --> 00:57:15,545
on all of the costs instead of

1468
00:57:15,545 --> 00:57:16,450
the partial costs listed to

1469
00:57:16,450 --> 00:57:18,450
date.

1470
00:57:21,884 --> 00:57:23,753
I would point out that the water

1471
00:57:23,753 --> 00:57:25,721
in the blue graph do not match

1472
00:57:25,721 --> 00:57:28,721
the figures in the text.

1473
00:57:30,959 --> 00:57:31,260
They say the total capacity is

1474
00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:33,260
54.

1475
00:57:33,495 --> 00:57:37,950
I'm concerned that the two I'ms

1476
00:57:37,399 --> 00:57:39,200
on our agenda would request

1477
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,200
federal and state funding for

1478
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:46,207
the bosque plant, yet the

1479
00:57:46,207 --> 00:57:47,643
serviceability letter does not

1480
00:57:47,643 --> 00:57:50,430
indicate any responsibility for

1481
00:57:51,245 --> 00:57:51,579
santolina to pay for the bosque

1482
00:57:51,579 --> 00:57:52,113
plant.

1483
00:57:52,113 --> 00:57:54,113
Thank you.

1484
00:57:55,983 --> 00:57:57,718
>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

1485
00:57:57,718 --> 00:57:59,553
Mr. Stomp do you want to respond

1486
00:57:59,553 --> 00:57:59,953
to any of that?

1487
00:57:59,953 --> 00:58:01,953
Thank you.

1488
00:58:02,356 --> 00:58:04,756
Just a short statement.

1489
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:06,893
I know this is overwhelming when

1490
00:58:06,893 --> 00:58:07,594
we look at the development of

1491
00:58:07,594 --> 00:58:09,594
this size.

1492
00:58:11,631 --> 00:58:12,320
When we look at it, it's the

1493
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:12,866
development.

1494
00:58:12,866 --> 00:58:14,866
The santolina development.

1495
00:58:15,502 --> 00:58:18,370
This is like any other piece of

1496
00:58:18,370 --> 00:58:20,273
the city that's developed.

1497
00:58:20,273 --> 00:58:23,273
I'm sure there's people here

1498
00:58:23,476 --> 00:58:26,476
that were living in homes

1499
00:58:27,746 --> 00:58:30,382
because they were built on

1500
00:58:30,382 --> 00:58:31,984
private landownership.

1501
00:58:31,984 --> 00:58:32,284
they developed a piece at a

1502
00:58:32,284 --> 00:58:34,284
time.

1503
00:58:35,854 --> 00:58:38,190
Even though it May have been 50

1504
00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:41,190
acres or a thousand acres.

1505
00:58:43,795 --> 00:58:46,431
I think we need to do is look at

1506
00:58:46,431 --> 00:58:48,431
this big picture.

1507
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,335
This is a big undertaking for

1508
00:58:50,335 --> 00:58:52,335
any place.

1509
00:58:53,337 --> 00:58:55,539
What I see is the advantage is

1510
00:58:55,539 --> 00:58:58,539
it gives the water authority,

1511
00:58:59,143 --> 00:59:00,444
and the governing agencies an

1512
00:59:00,444 --> 00:59:02,479
opportunity to set a standard

1513
00:59:02,479 --> 00:59:04,480
for the entire project.

1514
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,816
I think that's being done by the

1515
00:59:05,816 --> 00:59:09,386
water authority and I'm sure the

1516
00:59:09,386 --> 00:59:10,787
county is looking at it also.

1517
00:59:10,787 --> 00:59:12,789
This is one of those things that

1518
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:15,789
it's hard to see change.

1519
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:18,761
We love our city, but we also

1520
00:59:18,761 --> 00:59:20,196
need to know there is change.

1521
00:59:20,196 --> 00:59:23,796
I think the water authority is

1522
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:25,434
taking a really good stance on

1523
00:59:25,434 --> 00:59:28,170
this knowing that this agreement

1524
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:31,874
goes with the land even if the

1525
00:59:31,874 --> 00:59:34,810
current owners were to sell 200

1526
00:59:34,810 --> 00:59:36,712
acres or 1 acre at the time.

1527
00:59:36,712 --> 00:59:38,814
All of the costs go to each

1528
00:59:38,814 --> 00:59:39,681
owner as they develop or build

1529
00:59:39,681 --> 00:59:41,681
on the property.

1530
00:59:43,185 --> 00:59:45,186
We have to take a bite at a time

1531
00:59:45,186 --> 00:59:46,988
and see if it works.

1532
00:59:46,988 --> 00:59:47,455
Thank you for being so

1533
00:59:47,455 --> 00:59:49,455
interested.

1534
00:59:50,358 --> 00:59:52,126
Thank you for continuing to give

1535
00:59:52,126 --> 00:59:54,126
us your opinions.

1536
00:59:55,630 --> 00:59:57,431
We we've appreciated everything

1537
00:59:57,431 --> 00:59:59,831
you've contributed this evening.

1538
01:00:00,834 --> 01:00:05,340
Let's move to next item of first

1539
01:00:07,908 --> 01:00:09,908
reading of legislation.

1540
01:00:11,945 --> 01:00:12,746
That is being handled.

1541
01:00:12,746 --> 01:00:14,746
Good evening.

1542
01:00:16,916 --> 01:00:19,316
>> good evening, Madam Chair.

1543
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,520
Introduction for rez

1544
01:00:22,922 --> 01:00:24,922
solution to

1545
01:00:28,294 --> 01:00:31,894
add an appropriation for fy19 to

1546
01:00:33,265 --> 01:00:35,665
carry over expenditures from

1547
01:00:39,605 --> 01:00:42,500
1819, and we did miscellaneous

1548
01:00:43,408 --> 01:00:45,243
adjustments to sure up.

1549
01:00:45,243 --> 01:00:47,512
The state of new mexico and

1550
01:00:47,512 --> 01:00:50,480
local division in regard to

1551
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,116
proving the fy19 budget.

1552
01:00:52,116 --> 01:00:55,420
We're doing this clean up and

1553
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:55,720
moving the appropriations to

1554
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,555
fy19.

1555
01:00:57,555 --> 01:00:58,456
I stand for any questions.

1556
01:00:58,456 --> 01:00:58,823
>> Councilor Jones: any

1557
01:00:58,823 --> 01:01:00,823
questions?

1558
01:01:03,127 --> 01:01:05,290
Thank you, sir.

1559
01:01:05,290 --> 01:01:08,629
Next on the agenda is the

1560
01:01:11,235 --> 01:01:13,235
consent agenda.

1561
01:01:13,537 --> 01:01:17,737
There's a motion and a second to

1562
01:01:18,308 --> 01:01:20,176
approve the consent agenda.

1563
01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:21,678
All those in favor?

1564
01:01:21,678 --> 01:01:23,678
Those opposed?

1565
01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:28,820
Motion carries.

1566
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,722
This is r-18-27 authorizing the

1567
01:01:33,722 --> 01:01:36,122
removal of certain uncollectible

1568
01:01:36,458 --> 01:01:39,128
accounts from the water utility

1569
01:01:39,128 --> 01:01:40,496
authority accounts receive

1570
01:01:40,496 --> 01:01:40,929
able

1571
01:01:40,929 --> 01:01:42,664
accounts.

1572
01:01:42,664 --> 01:01:46,264
>> this is what we do every

1573
01:01:49,104 --> 01:01:51,720
quarter, we take and look at

1574
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,508
those sitting on the books that

1575
01:01:53,508 --> 01:01:56,508
are four years or older.

1576
01:01:59,460 --> 01:02:01,949
That's allowing us to write-off

1577
01:02:01,949 --> 01:02:02,283
approximately $74,000 off our

1578
01:02:02,283 --> 01:02:04,283
books.

1579
01:02:04,452 --> 01:02:06,452
They're primarily residential

1580
01:02:07,221 --> 01:02:09,990
properties that have not paid

1581
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:12,259
their bill in six or seven years

1582
01:02:12,259 --> 01:02:14,394
and have not paid their property

1583
01:02:14,394 --> 01:02:14,695
bills over the five or six

1584
01:02:14,695 --> 01:02:16,695
years.

1585
01:02:20,433 --> 01:02:22,469
We've deemed them uncollectible

1586
01:02:22,469 --> 01:02:23,436
and ask that we move those off

1587
01:02:23,436 --> 01:02:24,137
the books.

1588
01:02:24,137 --> 01:02:25,905
>> Councilor Jones: there's a

1589
01:02:25,905 --> 01:02:26,272
motion and a second for

1590
01:02:26,272 --> 01:02:28,272
approval.

1591
01:02:28,474 --> 01:02:29,976
All those in favor?

1592
01:02:29,976 --> 01:02:31,976
Those opposed?

1593
01:02:33,279 --> 01:02:35,279
Motion carries.

1594
01:02:37,983 --> 01:02:40,219
We're going to c-18-45 which is

1595
01:02:40,219 --> 01:02:42,219
2019 legislative priorities.

1596
01:02:42,821 --> 01:02:44,821
Mr. Sanchez.

1597
01:02:46,558 --> 01:02:47,859
>> Madam Chair, I believe you

1598
01:02:47,859 --> 01:02:49,859
skipped one item.

1599
01:02:50,362 --> 01:02:52,362
>> Councilor Jones: sorry.

1600
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:55,200
I skipped

1601
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200
skipped.

1602
01:02:58,690 --> 01:03:00,772
>> this is our first quarter

1603
01:03:00,772 --> 01:03:02,540
financial report, I'll make sure

1604
01:03:02,540 --> 01:03:05,420
I move the slides this time.

1605
01:03:05,420 --> 01:03:07,711
The first slide is your revenue

1606
01:03:07,711 --> 01:03:08,145
compared to the prior fiscal

1607
01:03:08,145 --> 01:03:10,145
years.

1608
01:03:11,315 --> 01:03:12,950
We've generated about a million

1609
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:15,452
dollars less in revenue than we

1610
01:03:15,452 --> 01:03:17,452
did last time.

1611
01:03:19,222 --> 01:03:21,622
Consumption was down too

1612
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:23,793
highjuly.

1613
01:03:23,793 --> 01:03:25,962
We're still projected to be at

1614
01:03:25,962 --> 01:03:28,464
budget or above budget by the

1615
01:03:28,464 --> 01:03:31,200
end of the fiscal year.

1616
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,436
This graphic, it shows the

1617
01:03:33,436 --> 01:03:35,836
expenditures for the year.

1618
01:03:36,472 --> 01:03:39,740
As you can see, the transfers

1619
01:03:39,740 --> 01:03:40,309
are increasing, that's due to

1620
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:41,844
the additional 3

1621
01:03:41,844 --> 01:03:43,278
$3 million we

1622
01:03:43,278 --> 01:03:45,278
transferred to capital.

1623
01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:47,983
All the other expenditures have

1624
01:03:47,983 --> 01:03:51,583
been in line and actually what

1625
01:03:52,854 --> 01:03:55,254
many of them decreasing.

1626
01:03:56,224 --> 01:03:57,926
The next slide is just a quick

1627
01:03:57,926 --> 01:04:00,610
depiction of our spending each

1628
01:04:00,610 --> 01:04:01,195
month compare to rolling average

1629
01:04:01,195 --> 01:04:02,830
for the year.

1630
01:04:02,830 --> 01:04:05,830
August was a high month.

1631
01:04:06,334 --> 01:04:09,700
We spent a lot of expenditures

1632
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:11,338
on power and chemtuals in that

1633
01:04:11,338 --> 01:04:12,840
month as we run the water

1634
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,840
treatment plant.

1635
01:04:16,577 --> 01:04:17,811
As we start ramping back down

1636
01:04:17,811 --> 01:04:20,247
expenditures come more back down

1637
01:04:20,247 --> 01:04:21,948
in line.

1638
01:04:21,948 --> 01:04:24,348
Days cash on hand.

1639
01:04:25,418 --> 01:04:29,180
At the end of fiscal year 2018

1640
01:04:29,656 --> 01:04:30,290
we have almost 445 days of cash

1641
01:04:30,290 --> 01:04:32,158
on hand.

1642
01:04:32,158 --> 01:04:36,358
At the end of the first quarter

1643
01:04:36,395 --> 01:04:36,729
we had about 325 days cash on

1644
01:04:36,729 --> 01:04:38,631
hand.

1645
01:04:38,631 --> 01:04:39,231
That's primarily because we

1646
01:04:39,231 --> 01:04:41,231
spent 44

1647
01:04:42,340 --> 01:04:44,434
$44 million on July 1 for

1648
01:04:44,436 --> 01:04:46,405
debt service payment.

1649
01:04:46,405 --> 01:04:49,405
That will go back up.

1650
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,347
The next slide is our capital

1651
01:04:55,347 --> 01:04:57,347
expenditures.

1652
01:05:01,352 --> 01:05:04,352
We caught up what we've

1653
01:05:05,189 --> 01:05:07,191
underspent in fy16 and 17.

1654
01:05:07,191 --> 01:05:10,428
It was a heavy first quarter

1655
01:05:10,428 --> 01:05:14,628
last year, but we're on pace to

1656
01:05:16,133 --> 01:05:20,333
spend on what we spend on fy19.

1657
01:05:21,538 --> 01:05:22,472
Our ratio is 1.33 for debt, and

1658
01:05:22,472 --> 01:05:24,472
1.20 for all debt.

1659
01:05:26,243 --> 01:05:29,212
As you can see, we almost hit

1660
01:05:29,212 --> 01:05:31,612
three for fiscal year 18.

1661
01:05:33,917 --> 01:05:37,517
We're at about 2.25 for fy19 so

1662
01:05:39,222 --> 01:05:43,422
far, and this helps to get our

1663
01:05:44,260 --> 01:05:44,393
triple a rating with the rating

1664
01:05:44,393 --> 01:05:46,393
agencies.

1665
01:05:48,130 --> 01:05:48,664
Next slide is water use

1666
01:05:48,664 --> 01:05:50,664
production.

1667
01:05:50,699 --> 01:05:54,202
The same slide after that is

1668
01:05:54,202 --> 01:05:55,203
with consumption.

1669
01:05:55,203 --> 01:05:57,500
Consumption production is down

1670
01:05:57,500 --> 01:05:59,500
this year.

1671
01:05:59,241 --> 01:06:01,641
It's at fy16 levels.

1672
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:11,752
It's below fy18 and fy17 levels.

1673
01:06:11,752 --> 01:06:14,622
Basically, we had a really heavy

1674
01:06:14,622 --> 01:06:17,220
July consumption, and people's

1675
01:06:17,324 --> 01:06:18,826
water usage really dropped off

1676
01:06:18,826 --> 01:06:20,826
after that.

1677
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,996
We're having a good year as far

1678
01:06:22,996 --> 01:06:24,665
as reducing the water usage

1679
01:06:24,665 --> 01:06:27,650
during the first quarter.

1680
01:06:27,768 --> 01:06:31,368
And the last slide is depiction

1681
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,675
of how much we produce compare

1682
01:06:35,675 --> 01:06:37,675
to consumption.

1683
01:06:40,460 --> 01:06:42,448
July was a heavy rain month.

1684
01:06:42,448 --> 01:06:46,648
As we start getting a lot of

1685
01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:49,521
rain, our consumption levels

1686
01:06:49,521 --> 01:06:50,222
drop off.

1687
01:06:50,222 --> 01:06:51,290
>> Councilor Jones: are there

1688
01:06:51,290 --> 01:06:53,290
any questions?

1689
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:55,559
I move approval.

1690
01:06:56,395 --> 01:06:59,995
There's a motion and a second

1691
01:07:02,834 --> 01:07:04,690
for fy-c-18-44.

1692
01:07:04,690 --> 01:07:06,690
Motion carries.

1693
01:07:06,137 --> 01:07:08,137
Now Mr. Sanchez.

1694
01:07:10,742 --> 01:07:12,430
>> before you is our federal

1695
01:07:12,430 --> 01:07:15,430
priorities, they're the same as

1696
01:07:17,381 --> 01:07:18,249
last year and previous years.

1697
01:07:18,249 --> 01:07:20,649
Under the water recycling

1698
01:07:20,851 --> 01:07:21,218
program there's two reuse

1699
01:07:21,218 --> 01:07:23,218
projects.

1700
01:07:28,191 --> 01:07:30,427
the tijeras and the bosque reuse

1701
01:07:30,427 --> 01:07:30,761
project which is along

1702
01:07:30,761 --> 01:07:32,662
aung

1703
01:07:32,662 --> 01:07:34,662
ong coors and

1704
01:07:37,901 --> 01:07:38,635
mon

1705
01:07:38,635 --> 01:07:40,336
montonao.

1706
01:07:40,336 --> 01:07:40,703
These have nothing to do with

1707
01:07:40,703 --> 01:07:42,271
santolina.

1708
01:07:42,271 --> 01:07:44,340
If santolina were to come about,

1709
01:07:44,340 --> 01:07:47,340
they would be required to

1710
01:07:48,744 --> 01:07:50,450
construct bosque to free up

1711
01:07:50,450 --> 01:07:51,714
drinking water supply as

1712
01:07:51,714 --> 01:07:53,714
Mr. Stomp mentioned.

1713
01:07:54,183 --> 01:07:56,251
The other projects would be to

1714
01:07:56,251 --> 01:07:58,651
continue the support for

1715
01:07:59,187 --> 01:07:59,621
kirtland air force base clean

1716
01:07:59,621 --> 01:08:01,621
up.

1717
01:08:03,325 --> 01:08:06,325
And the sandia national labs

1718
01:08:06,928 --> 01:08:08,730
land fill and continue land

1719
01:08:08,730 --> 01:08:10,730
water storage.

1720
01:08:13,768 --> 01:08:16,270
And the endangered species act.

1721
01:08:16,270 --> 01:08:17,471
I stand for any questions.

1722
01:08:17,471 --> 01:08:17,838
>> Councilor Jones: commissioner

1723
01:08:17,838 --> 01:08:18,572
o'malley.

1724
01:08:18,572 --> 01:08:20,572
>> Commissioner o'Malley: thank

1725
01:08:21,375 --> 01:08:23,375
you, Madam Chair.

1726
01:08:25,712 --> 01:08:27,581
At one time, this was a couple

1727
01:08:27,581 --> 01:08:29,549
years back, we had the

1728
01:08:29,549 --> 01:08:32,549
discussion about the west side

1729
01:08:32,819 --> 01:08:35,819
along central, there was group

1730
01:08:37,891 --> 01:08:39,292
shot come to us -- that come to

1731
01:08:39,292 --> 01:08:41,692
us asking for service.

1732
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,970
We actually amended the west

1733
01:08:45,970 --> 01:08:46,832
side's plan along the central

1734
01:08:46,832 --> 01:08:50,432
area which didn't have a plan.

1735
01:08:50,737 --> 01:08:51,170
We put a plan in place in the

1736
01:08:51,170 --> 01:08:52,505
county.

1737
01:08:52,505 --> 01:08:54,905
Where is that now?

1738
01:08:56,875 --> 01:08:59,275
>> my recollection is, you're

1739
01:08:59,378 --> 01:09:02,214
talking about the radar site?

1740
01:09:02,214 --> 01:09:03,715
We allowed for the connections,

1741
01:09:03,715 --> 01:09:05,650
and it's up to the individual

1742
01:09:05,650 --> 01:09:06,510
owners to make those

1743
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:08,510
connections.

1744
01:09:08,486 --> 01:09:09,187
I can get those details to you.

1745
01:09:09,187 --> 01:09:11,187
>> Commissioner o'Malley: we

1746
01:09:11,823 --> 01:09:13,658
were looking at about $50,000 or

1747
01:09:13,658 --> 01:09:15,860
more and you suggested that we

1748
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:19,897
look to the state for that money

1749
01:09:19,897 --> 01:09:21,999
or the association of the state

1750
01:09:21,999 --> 01:09:24,399
look for that money.

1751
01:09:25,350 --> 01:09:27,571
There's no -- because it seemed

1752
01:09:27,571 --> 01:09:29,873
like there needed improvement

1753
01:09:29,873 --> 01:09:30,674
and I think they were going to

1754
01:09:30,674 --> 01:09:32,674
tie into --

1755
01:09:33,710 --> 01:09:35,712
>> I think the issue was the

1756
01:09:35,712 --> 01:09:38,712
existing line which was a

1757
01:09:39,149 --> 01:09:42,510
private line, had severe leakage

1758
01:09:42,510 --> 01:09:44,654
and it needed to be replaced.

1759
01:09:44,654 --> 01:09:46,622
And I think we changed the

1760
01:09:46,622 --> 01:09:47,690
requirements because of

1761
01:09:47,690 --> 01:09:49,690
additional infrastructure.

1762
01:09:49,925 --> 01:09:53,525
Mr. Stomp might have a better

1763
01:09:55,531 --> 01:09:56,332
reck legs on -- recollection.

1764
01:09:56,332 --> 01:09:58,332
>> Commissioner o'Malley: I

1765
01:09:59,435 --> 01:10:01,837
guess those people are being

1766
01:10:01,837 --> 01:10:03,271
served as long as they pay.

1767
01:10:03,271 --> 01:10:04,506
>> correct.

1768
01:10:04,506 --> 01:10:07,242
I think we changed the need for

1769
01:10:07,242 --> 01:10:09,110
the line?

1770
01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:12,110
>> if you remember a couple

1771
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:15,480
years ago, we requested funding

1772
01:10:18,453 --> 01:10:19,754
that was granted to the losthair

1773
01:10:19,754 --> 01:10:21,754
horizons folks.

1774
01:10:21,956 --> 01:10:22,356
They've made several

1775
01:10:22,356 --> 01:10:24,356
connections.

1776
01:10:24,492 --> 01:10:25,759
They pay their bills to lost

1777
01:10:25,759 --> 01:10:26,827
horizons and they report their

1778
01:10:26,827 --> 01:10:28,827
usage to them.

1779
01:10:30,564 --> 01:10:32,633
We look at the pump station

1780
01:10:32,633 --> 01:10:34,633
numbers to see.

1781
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,370
And their usage has increased

1782
01:10:37,370 --> 01:10:38,805
slightly over the years.

1783
01:10:38,805 --> 01:10:40,805
>> Commissioner o'Malley: so

1784
01:10:43,576 --> 01:10:44,344
they have access through lost

1785
01:10:44,344 --> 01:10:46,344
horizon.

1786
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,180
>> yes.

1787
01:10:47,180 --> 01:10:48,348
Thank you.

1788
01:10:48,348 --> 01:10:50,348
>> Commissioner o'Malley: I

1789
01:10:50,483 --> 01:10:53,850
guess they're okay because they

1790
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:54,530
haven't complained about it.

1791
01:10:54,530 --> 01:10:56,453
>> Councilor Jones: thank you,

1792
01:10:56,656 --> 01:10:57,723
any other questions?

1793
01:10:57,723 --> 01:10:58,991
I move approval.

1794
01:10:58,991 --> 01:11:01,991
There's a motion and second.

1795
01:11:02,427 --> 01:11:02,761
All those in favor say yes,

1796
01:11:02,761 --> 01:11:03,462
opposed?

1797
01:11:03,462 --> 01:11:05,364
Motion carries.

1798
01:11:05,364 --> 01:11:06,465
Mr. Sanchez, the state

1799
01:11:06,465 --> 01:11:08,465
legislative priorities.

1800
01:11:10,268 --> 01:11:12,804
>> before you is the priority

1801
01:11:12,804 --> 01:11:15,804
for state legislative out lays.

1802
01:11:16,774 --> 01:11:17,775
The first is lopadillas water

1803
01:11:17,775 --> 01:11:19,775
system.

1804
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,680
The board approved that.

1805
01:11:25,282 --> 01:11:26,384
It should be 2.7

1806
01:11:26,384 --> 01:11:28,384
$2.7 million.

1807
01:11:30,754 --> 01:11:33,154
We received $750,000 from the

1808
01:11:34,792 --> 01:11:35,492
new mexico finance thoertd

1809
01:11:35,492 --> 01:11:37,492
authority.

1810
01:11:38,128 --> 01:11:40,128
The wastewater improvements

1811
01:11:40,130 --> 01:11:42,530
project planned and designed

1812
01:11:43,967 --> 01:11:45,340
will need an additional $12,500

1813
01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:47,340
for that.

1814
01:11:49,639 --> 01:11:49,939
The bosque reuse is there as

1815
01:11:49,939 --> 01:11:51,939
well.

1816
01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:55,440
We're supporting the environment

1817
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,440
a

1818
01:11:57,747 --> 01:11:58,800
adoption of petroleum tank

1819
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,800
storage.

1820
01:12:01,450 --> 01:12:03,318
And the review of the gross

1821
01:12:03,318 --> 01:12:04,420
receipts tax to the new mexico

1822
01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:06,420
finance authority.

1823
01:12:07,422 --> 01:12:09,224
Back in the day when it was

1824
01:12:09,224 --> 01:12:12,224
created a portion of the

1825
01:12:12,894 --> 01:12:14,950
receipts tax was ear marked to

1826
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:15,363
collateralize loans for the

1827
01:12:15,363 --> 01:12:17,363
entire state.

1828
01:12:18,466 --> 01:12:20,902
They have huge cash balances,

1829
01:12:20,902 --> 01:12:22,637
and we provide half the funding.

1830
01:12:22,637 --> 01:12:24,710
We generate over 10

1831
01:12:24,710 --> 01:12:26,710
$10 million a

1832
01:12:26,607 --> 01:12:28,709
year in governmental gross

1833
01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:30,211
receipts tax and we receive very

1834
01:12:30,211 --> 01:12:31,979
little benefit for projects we

1835
01:12:31,979 --> 01:12:34,379
have a need for.

1836
01:12:35,449 --> 01:12:36,583
We're not questioning the

1837
01:12:36,583 --> 01:12:38,583
finance authority, we're

1838
01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:40,320
suggesting the review of the

1839
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,623
intent of back then and where we

1840
01:12:43,623 --> 01:12:45,623
are today.

1841
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,661
Additionally, to im

1842
01:12:48,661 --> 01:12:50,661
oppose any

1843
01:12:51,931 --> 01:12:54,931
legislation that is contrary to

1844
01:12:55,234 --> 01:12:55,701
the water authority

1845
01:12:55,701 --> 01:12:57,701
sustainability.

1846
01:12:58,137 --> 01:12:59,572
>> I don't think we need to make

1847
01:12:59,572 --> 01:13:01,173
the change formally, but the

1848
01:13:01,173 --> 01:13:03,642
city and county have been

1849
01:13:03,642 --> 01:13:06,312
working closely on acquiring new

1850
01:13:06,312 --> 01:13:08,280
infrastructure and to address

1851
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,280
the land mobile radio system

1852
01:13:14,152 --> 01:13:15,554
that we use as well as aps, I

1853
01:13:15,554 --> 01:13:17,922
believe the water authority is

1854
01:13:17,922 --> 01:13:20,922
on that system as well.

1855
01:13:21,492 --> 01:13:22,627
And we urge that you have

1856
01:13:22,627 --> 01:13:24,495
advocacy for funding.

1857
01:13:24,495 --> 01:13:28,950
>> we can have that as an

1858
01:13:28,466 --> 01:13:28,733
amendment if the board wishes

1859
01:13:28,733 --> 01:13:30,733
to?

1860
01:13:30,901 --> 01:13:31,235
>> Councilor Jones: that's a

1861
01:13:31,235 --> 01:13:32,303
motion.

1862
01:13:32,303 --> 01:13:32,670
Commissioner o'malley has a

1863
01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:33,404
question.

1864
01:13:33,404 --> 01:13:35,439
>> Commissioner o'Malley: I have

1865
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:35,873
a question about the radio

1866
01:13:35,873 --> 01:13:37,873
system.

1867
01:13:41,278 --> 01:13:41,555
So aps and cnm are part of this?

1868
01:13:41,555 --> 01:13:43,555
>>

1869
01:13:46,983 --> 01:13:48,885
>> yes, there are about 17

1870
01:13:48,885 --> 01:13:51,285
agencies on that system.

1871
01:13:52,755 --> 01:13:54,570
The fire, police, and it's a

1872
01:13:54,570 --> 01:13:56,570
regional priority.

1873
01:13:56,125 --> 01:13:57,930
>> Commissioner o'Malley: thank

1874
01:13:57,930 --> 01:13:57,793
you.

1875
01:13:57,793 --> 01:14:00,290
>> Councilor Jones: I have a

1876
01:14:00,290 --> 01:14:00,363
motion and a second for that

1877
01:14:00,363 --> 01:14:02,363
change.

1878
01:14:02,832 --> 01:14:04,330
All those in favor say yes?

1879
01:14:04,330 --> 01:14:05,301
Motion carries.

1880
01:14:05,301 --> 01:14:05,668
Councilor davis, you had a

1881
01:14:05,668 --> 01:14:06,568
question.

1882
01:14:06,568 --> 01:14:08,704
>> Councilor Davis: I do.

1883
01:14:08,704 --> 01:14:11,306
Mr. Sanchez, I'm just reminded

1884
01:14:11,306 --> 01:14:12,708
that earlier this year as we're

1885
01:14:12,708 --> 01:14:15,708
working through one of the

1886
01:14:16,278 --> 01:14:17,279
updates around the kirtland jet

1887
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:19,279
fuel spill.

1888
01:14:20,582 --> 01:14:23,318
We had some questions about

1889
01:14:23,318 --> 01:14:25,718
their scientific over sight.

1890
01:14:26,621 --> 01:14:26,988
They moved to the secretary's

1891
01:14:26,988 --> 01:14:28,923
office.

1892
01:14:28,923 --> 01:14:31,923
Are we comfortable now that

1893
01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:32,326
process is in a good place

1894
01:14:32,326 --> 01:14:34,295
again?

1895
01:14:34,295 --> 01:14:37,895
Or does the water authority need

1896
01:14:38,899 --> 01:14:41,899
to exercise some influence to

1897
01:14:42,369 --> 01:14:44,369
protect that process?

1898
01:14:45,572 --> 01:14:47,707
>> I think our plan would be to

1899
01:14:47,707 --> 01:14:49,142
have that as an agenda item

1900
01:14:49,142 --> 01:14:50,510
presentation in January to see

1901
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:52,510
where we are.

1902
01:14:53,646 --> 01:14:55,982
I'm not sure we can ever be

1903
01:14:55,982 --> 01:14:57,617
comfortable given what's at

1904
01:14:57,617 --> 01:14:58,284
stake there.

1905
01:14:58,284 --> 01:14:59,619
>> Councilor Davis: I don't

1906
01:14:59,619 --> 01:14:59,986
think we need to do it as

1907
01:14:59,986 --> 01:15:01,986
amendment.

1908
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:04,190
It covers under resiliency for

1909
01:15:04,190 --> 01:15:06,190
our water supply.

1910
01:15:06,859 --> 01:15:09,328
We want to keep an eye on that.

1911
01:15:09,328 --> 01:15:11,263
And hope they can help us with

1912
01:15:11,263 --> 01:15:12,297
that moving forward.

1913
01:15:12,297 --> 01:15:14,566
>> Councilor Jones: thank you.

1914
01:15:14,566 --> 01:15:16,566
Any other questions?

1915
01:15:17,369 --> 01:15:19,471
>> I think you moved the

1916
01:15:19,471 --> 01:15:22,240
amendment but not the bill.

1917
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,608
>> Councilor Jones: I move

1918
01:15:23,608 --> 01:15:25,376
c-18-46 as amended.

1919
01:15:25,376 --> 01:15:28,313
There's a motion and a second.

1920
01:15:28,313 --> 01:15:29,747
All those in favor say yes.

1921
01:15:29,747 --> 01:15:31,747
Motion carries.