1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:01,740 It's 4:45. 2 00:00:03,060 --> 00:00:03,720 Please call the roll. 3 00:00:04,051 --> 00:00:04,620 Ms. Felter? 4 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:04,890 Here. 5 00:00:05,130 --> 00:00:05,730 Mr. Fowler? 6 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:06,089 Here. 7 00:00:06,270 --> 00:00:06,930 Ms. Longane? 8 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,451 Here. All right, we have a quorum. There is one item on the agenda to consider 9 00:00:12,570 --> 00:00:17,820 final action of an ordinance to authorize an economic impact study for Reignite 10 00:00:17,910 --> 00:00:18,390 Plan. 11 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:22,230 I put this item on the agenda because 12 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:29,131 I'm in favor of investing in Alexandria, improving Alexandria, 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,481 but we're looking at borrowing $82 million to make this happen, and we will 14 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:37,380 have some money 15 00:00:38,850 --> 00:00:44,760 to spend. I just want to know is it wise to do this amount for Reignite? 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,350 So I would like to hear from my fellow colleagues to get your input. Ms. 17 00:00:49,890 --> 00:00:55,740 Felter, I think this impacts your area, and I would just like to know, 18 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:58,770 is it worth the bang for the buck? 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,930 So 20 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:09,630 this afternoon I reviewed the documents that were given from the administration- 21 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:09,780 Mm-hmm 22 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:14,190 ... and the mayor did give a report summary to the council to kind of 23 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:20,640 shorten and summarize things. Most of the 24 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:26,730 items that they gave us I've seen already from different briefings and things 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,600 that have been put out 26 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:34,020 on the website. So I'm looking for a specific page. 27 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:37,950 Now, what I've seen has been a marketing study. 28 00:01:38,641 --> 00:01:40,891 So I saw the marketing study, and 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,930 looking at the current market analysis of the area. 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,740 So that's what- 31 00:01:48,271 --> 00:01:50,461 Which is different from an economic impact study. 32 00:01:50,641 --> 00:01:52,290 Right, CSRS study. 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:52,560 Yeah. 34 00:01:53,250 --> 00:01:54,510 So they kind of looked at 35 00:01:57,090 --> 00:01:58,080 those items. 36 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:01,170 Oh, here we go. 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,991 So I think the 82 million comes from, okay, 45 million city 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,000 money using existing sales tax and debt service model, so that's in the Reignite 39 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:16,290 FAQ. 40 00:02:16,740 --> 00:02:17,010 Okay. 41 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,340 And then it says 30 million leveraged, so 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,370 private, federal state matches because there's... I really like this FAQ. 43 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:32,130 I think it actually helped me. Quite a few questions I had personally, when I 44 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:35,760 looked through this, I was like, "Okay, this actually answered my question." So 45 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:39,990 this kind of lines out some of the ways that we can leverage 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:48,540 state and federal money. For example, with the drainage canal, different 47 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:51,300 dollars and grants that can match 48 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:53,280 with that- 49 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:57,180 Now, you're using terminology that a lot of people may not understand when you're 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,671 saying match and leverage. 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,310 Yeah. So I think one of the biggest things that I want to make sure we do, and I 52 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:09,120 think that it's smart to do, is getting the most bang for your buck. 53 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:13,650 So when you can have a match, meaning the city puts up an amount of money, and then 54 00:03:13,709 --> 00:03:19,291 you have another outside source matching money, then you're able to get 55 00:03:19,351 --> 00:03:19,710 more- 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,851 Which is usually a federal- 57 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:21,360 Right 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,710 ... state or federal agency. 59 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:26,340 And so I think that's important, and 60 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:31,410 so I think that explains kind of what a match is. 61 00:03:31,650 --> 00:03:37,351 But my question is: how is this going to be paid back? 62 00:03:38,370 --> 00:03:40,230 Right. What do we get out of it? 63 00:03:40,590 --> 00:03:46,291 And ideally, will the area where that's receiving this investment generate 64 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:50,160 sufficient sales tax revenue to help pay for it? 65 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,041 Can anyone answer that question for me? Mr. Smith, thank you. 66 00:03:58,770 --> 00:04:00,630 Daniel Smith, Director of Planning. 67 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,430 Yeah, I just want to make sure that we're clear that the $45 million figure will be 68 00:04:05,460 --> 00:04:06,510 the proposed bond amount. 69 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:07,110 Right. 70 00:04:07,171 --> 00:04:08,190 You had mentioned $82 million- 71 00:04:08,340 --> 00:04:12,300 When I say bond amount, that's money that the city is to borrow. 72 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:16,110 That's correct. So a bond, a municipal bond, again, I know a lot of folks don't- 73 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:16,680 Okay 74 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:19,201 ... know the basics on this. I know that you do. 75 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:24,120 But yeah, the future sales tax and projected revenue, you can borrow it upfront, 76 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:26,040 and that gets paid back over time. 77 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:26,400 Mm-hmm. 78 00:04:26,490 --> 00:04:28,680 Typically, it would be a conservative amount that you would borrow. 79 00:04:28,770 --> 00:04:32,190 So this amount, I believe, is based on existing revenue. 80 00:04:32,281 --> 00:04:37,050 So you wouldn't necessarily need to have a massive increase in revenue to pay this 81 00:04:37,170 --> 00:04:39,781 off. It would be, the mayor liked to talk about a car note. 82 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:43,770 We currently had an existing bond that is going off the books. 83 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:45,420 We're finishing up and paying it back. 84 00:04:45,870 --> 00:04:48,510 And so we'll continue to have that revenue, just like you continue to work at your 85 00:04:48,570 --> 00:04:52,050 job, and then we can now borrow against that future revenue to do a new bond. 86 00:04:52,531 --> 00:04:52,650 Okay. 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,990 And these bonds, the call would say what it's for, and typically they're for 88 00:04:58,050 --> 00:05:01,020 infrastructure projects. More generally- 89 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:03,270 Which will be capital money 90 00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:05,640 ... well, so yeah, and there's also $7 million in capital outlay. 91 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:07,890 That's what you guys appropriate every year. 92 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:10,860 The bond is what gets borrowed against future revenue. 93 00:05:10,890 --> 00:05:12,300 But I guess my question is, 94 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:19,110 there's discussion to spend $82 million along Masonic Drive. 95 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:24,990 After that type of money is spent, will income be generated 96 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,341 from that particular area, or will other areas be required 97 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:33,091 to pay for it? 98 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:34,020 Well, 99 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:39,300 the $30 million bond would be paid for under projections from existing revenue. 100 00:05:39,390 --> 00:05:42,630 So $30 million of that is what Councilman Felter was talking about, the leveraging 101 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:42,960 part. 102 00:05:43,410 --> 00:05:43,410 Mm-hmm. 103 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,781 But I do want to push back a little bit. 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,560 We typically, when we propose an infrastructure project, when council asks for an 105 00:05:49,591 --> 00:05:53,610 infrastructure project, we don't look at that particular project having to itself 106 00:05:53,701 --> 00:05:55,380 generate enough revenue to pay for itself. 107 00:05:55,410 --> 00:05:55,440 Okay. 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,250 We are getting revenue from sales tax and property taxes, and we're reinvesting 109 00:05:59,310 --> 00:06:00,330 that money into the community- 110 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:00,781 Okay 111 00:06:00,841 --> 00:06:04,560 ... hopefully to improve the business environment, to improve the quality of life 112 00:06:04,591 --> 00:06:05,250 of our residents. 113 00:06:05,281 --> 00:06:05,701 And that's good. 114 00:06:06,270 --> 00:06:09,060 We don't have to have everything pay for itself, so to speak. 115 00:06:09,750 --> 00:06:14,160 The goal, of course, is to increase economic activity, which would, as you know and 116 00:06:14,310 --> 00:06:16,951 as you say, increase sales tax, increase property values. 117 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:22,560 But that's not the primary goal. The primary goal is to create a better quality of 118 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:25,710 life and a better sense of place in an area that the city has identified and done 119 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:29,460 quite a bit of work identifying as where the administration wants to steer the next 120 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,360 set of investments. 121 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,160 Okay. Now my question is: 122 00:06:34,831 --> 00:06:39,151 will money be made if this type of money is spent on Masonic Drive? 123 00:06:39,331 --> 00:06:43,260 If it's successful, you would hope to see greater sales tax. 124 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:45,120 Okay. 125 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:48,780 Now, also, so we have the infrastructure part that we've already been talking 126 00:06:48,841 --> 00:06:52,260 about. That's with the city. The city, because of Article 7 in the constitution, 127 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:57,091 finance rules, we can spend all day in capital outlay on improving our own assets. 128 00:06:57,151 --> 00:07:01,081 But the whole other component of Reignite would be partnering with the private 129 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:04,290 sector, particularly Alexandria Mall, and maybe some healthcare assets along that 130 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:09,451 corridor. And those particular partnering projects have to show that they would 131 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:13,770 have a return on the investment or at least a commensurate value to the public in 132 00:07:13,831 --> 00:07:16,561 order for the city to justify those cooperative endeavor agreements. 133 00:07:17,550 --> 00:07:17,550 Okay. 134 00:07:17,610 --> 00:07:23,250 So in those particular cases, let's say we did a deal with the mall, and I 135 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,280 included in the packet earlier today the due diligence questionnaire that was 136 00:07:26,311 --> 00:07:31,290 developed last summer, where there's some proposed terms in the MOU with the mall 137 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:32,910 management, excuse me, the mall ownership group. 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,380 In those situations, we would absolutely have to do these types of studies that 139 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:42,061 you're talking about to ensure that there's a reportable benefit to the city, that 140 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,470 it's not just a giveaway, that there is pro forma to make sure whatever business 141 00:07:46,561 --> 00:07:50,160 activity that they are doing in order to justify an incentive from the city 142 00:07:51,390 --> 00:07:54,690 will pencil out and make sense. And then, of course, also there'd be call backs if 143 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,390 they don't meet those incentives, excuse me, they don't meet those requirements to 144 00:07:57,420 --> 00:08:00,780 get whatever that incentive would be, then the city could call back and sunset it. 145 00:08:01,140 --> 00:08:06,151 I want to point to the hotel development downtown as an example of a successful 146 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,160 effort that this administration did years ago. 147 00:08:08,820 --> 00:08:11,040 So it's not like they're reinventing the wheel. 148 00:08:12,420 --> 00:08:16,050 But this is a typical way that you would partner with the public sector to do a 149 00:08:16,081 --> 00:08:20,490 public-private partnership in order to spend money on things we can spend money on, 150 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:25,530 but also to leverage and push and spur the private sector to do more as well. 151 00:08:25,890 --> 00:08:27,390 Who would do the actual study? 152 00:08:35,250 --> 00:08:37,140 There's not going to be an actual study, so to speak. 153 00:08:37,201 --> 00:08:40,920 So let's say we're going through the analysis with the CA of the city, also the 154 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:44,401 financial team for whatever private group, such as the Alexandria Mall. 155 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:51,690 It would need to be accountants and auditors, I presume, but I think your concern 156 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,570 is making sure that it's someone independent and someone unbiased that would 157 00:08:54,630 --> 00:08:55,651 perform that analysis. 158 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:55,890 Yes. 159 00:08:55,950 --> 00:08:56,401 Yeah. 160 00:08:56,460 --> 00:08:57,420 That much is a lot. 161 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,502 Sure. And I mean, the city, it's all over these documents about- You know, making 162 00:09:02,562 --> 00:09:06,192 sure that the assumptions are correct, and that market analysis justifies whatever 163 00:09:06,252 --> 00:09:09,582 kind of incentives the city would be putting in, that there'd be financial 164 00:09:09,642 --> 00:09:13,572 evaluation on the front end to make certain that the investment makes sense. 165 00:09:14,113 --> 00:09:18,162 Um, but I don't think the idea is that there would be this one giant economic 166 00:09:18,222 --> 00:09:20,682 impact study for the entire infrastructure program. 167 00:09:21,192 --> 00:09:24,642 You know, of course, we want to make sure that the infrastructure that we do spend 168 00:09:24,702 --> 00:09:27,702 money on has benefit cost analyses that make sense. 169 00:09:27,942 --> 00:09:31,152 We have our own way of prioritizing when we do roads, and when we do ditch closures 170 00:09:31,182 --> 00:09:34,182 and sidewalks. You know, there's never enough money for everything, so we have to 171 00:09:34,212 --> 00:09:37,602 pick and choose. And that's based on need, and then also based a lot of times on 172 00:09:37,633 --> 00:09:39,702 the emergency situations that will come up. 173 00:09:40,032 --> 00:09:40,122 Okay. 174 00:09:40,242 --> 00:09:45,672 Um, but if as far as the ordinance is contemplating some large, huge scale 175 00:09:46,152 --> 00:09:50,052 economic impact study that makes a bunch of assumptions about what may or may not 176 00:09:50,081 --> 00:09:52,962 happen later on with Reignite with the private sector partnering, that isn't 177 00:09:52,992 --> 00:09:55,722 something that typically would come early on like this. 178 00:09:56,383 --> 00:09:56,532 Uh, we- 179 00:09:56,562 --> 00:09:59,022 We wouldn't be able to necessarily predict what the private sector- 180 00:09:59,772 --> 00:10:00,192 Mr. Powers 181 00:10:00,192 --> 00:10:01,182 ... entities will come in. 182 00:10:01,722 --> 00:10:02,502 Go ahead. 183 00:10:02,562 --> 00:10:03,972 I was just going to say, I think 184 00:10:05,232 --> 00:10:09,613 we know what we can do on our end, and hopefully that spurs the private sector to 185 00:10:09,642 --> 00:10:14,863 buy into this project and invest in the area, but I think it's hard to predict the 186 00:10:15,102 --> 00:10:16,633 economic impact on that side- 187 00:10:17,082 --> 00:10:17,383 No, the- 188 00:10:17,383 --> 00:10:17,832 ... at this point. 189 00:10:18,312 --> 00:10:20,442 Right. So, like later on you could come back and see- 190 00:10:20,892 --> 00:10:20,892 Yeah 191 00:10:20,922 --> 00:10:22,092 ... and try to measure those things. 192 00:10:22,272 --> 00:10:22,932 Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Mayor. 193 00:10:22,992 --> 00:10:23,472 Mr. Powers. 194 00:10:23,532 --> 00:10:28,452 Anyway, I just think that the mayor's presented so much of this stuff already. 195 00:10:28,512 --> 00:10:34,302 We've looked at, uh, one of the things we have to do to really 196 00:10:34,602 --> 00:10:38,802 get an impact statement would be to define the projects we're going to do, and 197 00:10:38,802 --> 00:10:40,512 we're not even close to doing that. 198 00:10:41,292 --> 00:10:45,883 And I know that we're working on several different things, but in each of the 199 00:10:45,942 --> 00:10:49,602 things I've read, each contract, and each thing he's done over the time- 200 00:10:49,872 --> 00:10:49,872 Mm-hmm 201 00:10:49,872 --> 00:10:55,032 ... that he's been mayor, he's backed up all of this stuff every time with economic 202 00:10:56,022 --> 00:10:58,752 studies and so forth and so that it'll be... 203 00:10:59,412 --> 00:11:03,912 Uh, a lot of times the city borrows money to do things that are just in general for 204 00:11:03,972 --> 00:11:04,332 the people. 205 00:11:04,392 --> 00:11:04,392 Correct. 206 00:11:04,422 --> 00:11:08,922 Some of this will be that way. Some of it might be a business venture type thing- 207 00:11:08,982 --> 00:11:09,372 Mm-hmm 208 00:11:09,372 --> 00:11:13,122 ... that's going to produce revenue that'll, you know, get to both the business 209 00:11:13,152 --> 00:11:16,572 community and the city, but each one will stand on its own. 210 00:11:17,172 --> 00:11:22,962 And, uh, I don't think there's a way that we can do an economic impact on 211 00:11:23,442 --> 00:11:28,002 this Reignite project. You might be able to do it on different portions of it, but 212 00:11:28,032 --> 00:11:33,162 I don't see how you could possibly do it, who would be qualified to do it on the 213 00:11:33,162 --> 00:11:36,582 full-scale thing, because we don't even know what's all going to involve yet. 214 00:11:36,762 --> 00:11:39,942 I think that's really the key, the last thing you said about not knowing exactly, 215 00:11:40,212 --> 00:11:43,302 because we're going through the public input and scoping process still, the sort of 216 00:11:43,332 --> 00:11:45,192 due diligence phase. Um- 217 00:11:45,342 --> 00:11:46,062 But we can still- 218 00:11:46,572 --> 00:11:46,722 Sure 219 00:11:46,902 --> 00:11:50,772 ... pass an ordinance that mandates that an economic impact study be done on what 220 00:11:50,802 --> 00:11:51,672 we're proposing. 221 00:11:52,032 --> 00:11:52,782 Along the way? 222 00:11:53,322 --> 00:11:54,852 Yeah. Along the way. 223 00:11:54,883 --> 00:11:56,562 Well, everything has to come to us. 224 00:11:56,652 --> 00:11:57,252 Yeah. 225 00:11:57,342 --> 00:11:59,442 I mean, it has to come to us, I believe. 226 00:11:59,502 --> 00:12:02,202 Well, and then the bond certainly would have to come as well. 227 00:12:02,712 --> 00:12:06,883 Um, you know, some of these projects are funded in, some of the capital, and the 228 00:12:07,302 --> 00:12:08,592 playground project would be a good example. 229 00:12:08,622 --> 00:12:10,002 Those are the things the city's already doing. 230 00:12:10,452 --> 00:12:14,922 It is true, I mean, you can get someone to do an economic analysis of a road or of 231 00:12:14,952 --> 00:12:19,062 a park or a playground. I don't think that's really, um, the kind of thing that 232 00:12:19,062 --> 00:12:20,592 we're talking about or are being asked of. 233 00:12:21,102 --> 00:12:21,312 Um- 234 00:12:22,572 --> 00:12:22,662 I know 235 00:12:22,662 --> 00:12:24,432 ... I'm not going to weigh in about the ordinance itself. 236 00:12:24,492 --> 00:12:26,322 I think that's maybe better for legal. 237 00:12:26,952 --> 00:12:28,152 You, Ms. Powers. 238 00:12:28,272 --> 00:12:32,202 So right now, all of this is proposed with the bond and everything. 239 00:12:33,042 --> 00:12:38,772 It's not like we're just saying if we approve anything for Reignite, it's a 240 00:12:38,863 --> 00:12:41,832 blank check, whatever. Everything would still have to, every project would still 241 00:12:41,892 --> 00:12:43,992 come before us for approval. 242 00:12:44,772 --> 00:12:45,432 Mm-hmm. 243 00:12:45,462 --> 00:12:46,452 Um, my question- 244 00:12:46,692 --> 00:12:46,692 Any- 245 00:12:46,722 --> 00:12:47,142 Correct. 246 00:12:47,232 --> 00:12:50,233 Well, yeah, any partnering agreements, so any new CEAs have to be approved by the 247 00:12:50,262 --> 00:12:50,562 council. 248 00:12:50,592 --> 00:12:50,623 Right. 249 00:12:50,623 --> 00:12:53,592 The bond itself, of course, any budgetary expenditures. 250 00:12:53,623 --> 00:12:57,522 And I just want to note, um, you know, I think the proof is in the success of 251 00:12:57,583 --> 00:13:00,402 Spark. You know, we have a double A rating. 252 00:13:00,972 --> 00:13:04,182 You know, we have a really good borrowing capacity for the city, um, and the 253 00:13:04,242 --> 00:13:05,292 finances are healthy. 254 00:13:06,252 --> 00:13:06,762 I have a question. 255 00:13:06,792 --> 00:13:07,812 We got it back . 256 00:13:08,233 --> 00:13:10,002 Exactly. Yeah, we did get it back, right? 257 00:13:10,062 --> 00:13:10,452 So when- 258 00:13:10,542 --> 00:13:10,902 Paid the car 259 00:13:10,902 --> 00:13:16,422 ... if we would, um, require an economic study beyond what is 260 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:21,132 already done, like with the market analysis and everything like that, what kind of 261 00:13:21,222 --> 00:13:24,192 cost is that? Like for that type of study- 262 00:13:24,613 --> 00:13:24,702 I don't know 263 00:13:24,702 --> 00:13:25,483 ... as you're thinking? 264 00:13:25,692 --> 00:13:28,632 I don't know. That's why I put this in a committee to discuss it. 265 00:13:29,053 --> 00:13:31,333 Does it, do we have any idea how much that would cost? 266 00:13:32,053 --> 00:13:33,492 Uh, no, sir, I do not. I mean- 267 00:13:34,363 --> 00:13:35,022 Because that would be- 268 00:13:35,083 --> 00:13:35,202 Was- 269 00:13:35,352 --> 00:13:38,682 ... my concern of, we can have a study of a study of a study. 270 00:13:39,012 --> 00:13:41,322 Is that the wisest use of money as well? 271 00:13:41,502 --> 00:13:42,282 Like, I think- 272 00:13:43,512 --> 00:13:46,363 The other concern would be delaying things, and we want this to have a big impact 273 00:13:46,602 --> 00:13:50,022 and move forward relatively quickly. Um, that's the whole idea. 274 00:13:50,053 --> 00:13:53,053 You know, the same idea with Spark is, and Fast Track as well, is getting a lot of 275 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:57,192 projects moving at the same time to generate that, and I hate this word, but the 276 00:13:57,282 --> 00:14:00,522 synergy that you want to see, uh, you know, in that area. 277 00:14:00,613 --> 00:14:04,002 And I think the city's done quite a bit of work just to justify the case for that 278 00:14:04,092 --> 00:14:07,182 area between the recreational assets, healthcare assets, and now the center of the 279 00:14:07,212 --> 00:14:08,202 mall, which does need some- 280 00:14:08,833 --> 00:14:09,282 I, I'm sorry. 281 00:14:09,342 --> 00:14:09,942 No, no, no. 282 00:14:10,032 --> 00:14:15,613 I was going to say, I do want to speak on that, um, because at Masonic, 283 00:14:16,812 --> 00:14:20,382 that is kind of a connecting point of a lot of districts in the city. 284 00:14:20,442 --> 00:14:22,842 A lot of that area is actually District 2. 285 00:14:23,083 --> 00:14:23,382 That's right. 286 00:14:23,472 --> 00:14:29,412 Um, and we have the zoo, we have those sidewalks and benches. 287 00:14:29,502 --> 00:14:35,472 Uh, GATA did a lot of, um, impact in that area as well, um, throughout the years. 288 00:14:36,192 --> 00:14:40,363 And you've got all of the assets along there. 289 00:14:41,472 --> 00:14:46,483 Our zoo is world-class. I mean, I take my kids, anytime we go to a city, I go to 290 00:14:46,512 --> 00:14:49,962 the zoo to check it out. And I'm always leaving, I'm thinking, "The Alexandria Zoo 291 00:14:49,992 --> 00:14:55,572 is so much better than this." Um, but I think maximizing on that potential 292 00:14:55,873 --> 00:15:01,602 is smart to do. Um, and we have the children's 293 00:15:01,662 --> 00:15:05,952 museum, the Treehouse Downtown, which I personally feel like there have been a lot 294 00:15:05,983 --> 00:15:07,873 of improvements recently with the new director. 295 00:15:08,472 --> 00:15:08,892 I think, 296 00:15:10,333 --> 00:15:15,942 um, putting more money toward that to make it at the same level as the zoo, 297 00:15:16,272 --> 00:15:20,742 as far as a destination for school field trips, families to go there. 298 00:15:21,522 --> 00:15:21,942 I think 299 00:15:23,472 --> 00:15:28,842 that in this whole plan really kind of makes that area an appealing 300 00:15:29,351 --> 00:15:34,812 area because as a parent, you think, "Okay, if I'm going out to do something with 301 00:15:34,842 --> 00:15:38,053 my kids," you know, you want, they look for things. 302 00:15:38,262 --> 00:15:38,592 Understand. 303 00:15:38,592 --> 00:15:39,312 Depending on their age- 304 00:15:39,462 --> 00:15:39,672 Understand 305 00:15:39,733 --> 00:15:41,892 ... and, um, look for things like that. 306 00:15:41,952 --> 00:15:42,012 Understand. 307 00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:45,792 So I do, I am a fan of that part of it for sure. 308 00:15:46,422 --> 00:15:49,123 I think investing in that part, you don't want to see it go further down. 309 00:15:49,272 --> 00:15:50,682 I mean, I agree with you. I, I- 310 00:15:50,742 --> 00:15:50,803 Yeah 311 00:15:50,803 --> 00:15:54,132 ... don't doubt that we need investment. We also have brown water too. 312 00:15:55,062 --> 00:15:55,303 Right. 313 00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:56,532 But there's certain- 314 00:15:57,162 --> 00:15:57,492 You know? 315 00:15:57,762 --> 00:15:58,002 You know- 316 00:15:58,062 --> 00:16:01,422 It's like apples and oranges, but still, you know, we, that's a concern that we 317 00:16:01,452 --> 00:16:03,222 need to address. So- 318 00:16:03,882 --> 00:16:07,123 Well, utility fund is, enterprise fund is separate. 319 00:16:07,242 --> 00:16:07,452 Um- 320 00:16:07,692 --> 00:16:10,962 Understand. I mean, I know it's separate, but they go to the tax, to the citizen. 321 00:16:10,992 --> 00:16:14,532 They're like, "You're spending money here," but we have these other concerns and, 322 00:16:15,342 --> 00:16:17,233 you know, that, that's just my concern there. 323 00:16:17,772 --> 00:16:18,252 Okay. And- 324 00:16:18,462 --> 00:16:19,092 And- 325 00:16:19,152 --> 00:16:20,053 No, please go ahead. 326 00:16:20,292 --> 00:16:23,053 It should be noted that the administration is in support of this particular 327 00:16:23,142 --> 00:16:27,972 ordinance. We would have come and asked the council, uh, for this particular item 328 00:16:28,363 --> 00:16:32,652 later on in the process, as we note in the report that we provided, um, as a part 329 00:16:32,682 --> 00:16:34,692 of the confirmatory analysis that we would be doing. 330 00:16:35,113 --> 00:16:35,142 Okay. 331 00:16:35,233 --> 00:16:39,613 So, uh, we would be willing to go forward with the council as we go into this 332 00:16:39,642 --> 00:16:44,113 process to discuss how that outcome looks in regards to doing this analysis. 333 00:16:44,233 --> 00:16:45,373 All right. All right. 334 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:48,102 I just think it's specific. It needs to be developed. 335 00:16:48,312 --> 00:16:48,882 Yes, that's right. 336 00:16:48,972 --> 00:16:50,532 Some kind of development. 337 00:16:50,623 --> 00:16:51,162 Yes, the city- 338 00:16:51,252 --> 00:16:52,572 Somebody could write it better too. 339 00:16:52,632 --> 00:16:55,692 Well, the city has a lot of ideas. We have some projects that are moving forward, 340 00:16:55,782 --> 00:16:58,392 like MPO-funded improvements on Masonic Drive. 341 00:16:58,662 --> 00:17:02,442 And then we have projects like Greenhurst Park, which is in some ways a blank 342 00:17:02,502 --> 00:17:06,462 canvas. And so we've gone through the effort of doing the mark-market analysis, um, 343 00:17:06,672 --> 00:17:09,462 engaging with the community of course is a big part of it, to see what people 344 00:17:09,492 --> 00:17:11,623 themselves think is needed in that area. 345 00:17:12,432 --> 00:17:15,553 Um, so yeah, we are at the proc- yeah, what's been said before. 346 00:17:15,613 --> 00:17:18,162 It's, we want to get the cart behind the horse. Yeah. 347 00:17:18,402 --> 00:17:20,652 I mean, it's like we're trying to get buy-in from them. 348 00:17:20,682 --> 00:17:21,312 Yep, that's right. 349 00:17:21,553 --> 00:17:25,303 So maybe it's a different way to look at it, but it is something the city funded. 350 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,902 Yeah. And K.L., we had a great report about optimism among, you know, business 351 00:17:28,962 --> 00:17:31,002 owners along that corridor. So that's exactly what we're trying to- 352 00:17:31,152 --> 00:17:31,812 That's two different people 353 00:17:31,812 --> 00:17:32,352 ... generate. 354 00:17:34,752 --> 00:17:36,402 Talking to me about Greenhurst, and they had some ideas- 355 00:17:36,402 --> 00:17:36,402 Okay 356 00:17:36,402 --> 00:17:36,432 ... they wanted to present on Saturday. 357 00:17:36,432 --> 00:17:38,082 Yeah, and the infrastructure on the mall. Yeah. 358 00:17:38,292 --> 00:17:39,042 Councillor Mark. 359 00:17:39,102 --> 00:17:42,792 Yes, sir. I requested this to be on the agenda. 360 00:17:43,002 --> 00:17:47,982 I received this, uh, report from the mayor's office at 2:45, although we did apply, 361 00:17:48,162 --> 00:17:51,312 ask for this two weeks ago. Uh, question to you, Mr. 362 00:17:51,612 --> 00:17:54,702 Smith, uh, to maybe have answers from the administration. 363 00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:59,502 Before Alexandria concentrates this level of public investment in the Masonic Drive 364 00:17:59,592 --> 00:18:04,542 corridor, why shouldn't the city first conduct a comprehensive economic and 365 00:18:04,662 --> 00:18:10,332 infrastructure study of the entire city to determine which neighborhoods and 366 00:18:10,452 --> 00:18:16,308 corridors have the greatest needs, and where public dollars could Produce 367 00:18:16,368 --> 00:18:21,978 the greatest benefit. A follow-up on that is, can the administration provide 368 00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:27,649 data or analysis showing why Masonic Drive was selected ahead of 369 00:18:29,178 --> 00:18:31,848 the areas of Alexandria that residents- 370 00:18:31,848 --> 00:18:33,258 I can't replace how much of my data gets backed up 371 00:18:33,258 --> 00:18:35,089 Oh, goodness gracious. My bad. 372 00:18:35,149 --> 00:18:36,768 Excuse me. 373 00:18:37,068 --> 00:18:42,138 That residents, that many residents say that they experience disinvestment, 374 00:18:43,308 --> 00:18:49,008 deteriorating infrastructure, and limited economic development for 20 375 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:55,068 years or more. I know the area is being done over in District 4, which is 376 00:18:55,128 --> 00:18:59,778 in this Felker's area, but I talk with people down through the area. 377 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:04,339 Just want to make a comment, sir. Stanford, Bush, Dartmouth- 378 00:19:04,399 --> 00:19:04,608 Mm-hmm 379 00:19:04,608 --> 00:19:06,378 ... Princeton, Harvard, Yale, 380 00:19:08,089 --> 00:19:13,578 Rensselaer, and North City Park Boulevard adjacent to this and all are disrepair. 381 00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:17,688 So we're going to pretty up Masonic Drive and while those neighbors are driving 382 00:19:17,748 --> 00:19:18,888 across potholes. 383 00:19:19,698 --> 00:19:19,878 Right. 384 00:19:20,268 --> 00:19:25,668 Potholes that you want to beautify one part of the city. So following what Ms. 385 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:31,608 Lombard has asked, I want to know how we chose Masonic Drive to invest in all this 386 00:19:31,668 --> 00:19:35,568 funding. And then if also that you did say we're getting ready to pay off a bond, 387 00:19:35,839 --> 00:19:40,159 would that be the utility bond for that DG Hunter power plant before we go into 388 00:19:40,308 --> 00:19:44,778 other investments and putting the citizens in another bond issue to break the city? 389 00:19:45,858 --> 00:19:48,468 No, sir. Utility bonds are paid for with utility rates. 390 00:19:49,428 --> 00:19:53,598 This would be a bond that's paid for the city in property taxes, are totally 391 00:19:53,659 --> 00:19:54,649 separate accounts in your budget. 392 00:19:54,678 --> 00:19:56,238 So no sales taxes, property taxes. 393 00:19:56,718 --> 00:19:58,098 I believe there's sales tax involved, too. 394 00:19:58,128 --> 00:20:01,278 That's a better question for finance, but it's absolutely not utility money. 395 00:20:01,518 --> 00:20:01,728 Okay. 396 00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:03,768 And to answer your question, why Masonic Drive? 397 00:20:04,038 --> 00:20:06,378 This is a report from May of 2026 from the spring. 398 00:20:06,438 --> 00:20:09,918 It literally says, "Why this corridor?" It was something we provided to you guys. 399 00:20:10,458 --> 00:20:14,568 I think the case is well justified about doing it on Masonic Drive from the retail, 400 00:20:14,628 --> 00:20:16,218 healthcare, and recreational assets. 401 00:20:16,488 --> 00:20:19,788 It touches on multiple districts, but that doesn't mean the city can't do multiple 402 00:20:19,848 --> 00:20:22,818 things at once. We are trying to improve roads. 403 00:20:23,268 --> 00:20:27,948 I live over a block off of Bush Avenue, and that's where I recreate is in the Ivy 404 00:20:27,978 --> 00:20:31,788 League neighborhood. So of course, I'm aware of the situation in that neighborhood 405 00:20:31,818 --> 00:20:35,388 as well, and then also other parts of the city that we are steering investment to. 406 00:20:35,748 --> 00:20:41,328 Frankly, District 3 gets quite a bit of the share of the city's 407 00:20:41,388 --> 00:20:46,128 investment to catch up and to make up for a long period of time, and things that 408 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:49,278 were developed not at the same standard originally when they weren't even in the 409 00:20:49,368 --> 00:20:49,728 city. 410 00:20:50,538 --> 00:20:50,928 Neglect. 411 00:20:50,988 --> 00:20:55,038 So I think it's a fa-- Well, not necessarily neglect. It is a false choice. 412 00:20:55,038 --> 00:20:59,089 There is a comprehensive plan in place relative to the city's capital budget that 413 00:20:59,118 --> 00:20:59,598 the council- 414 00:20:59,598 --> 00:20:59,598 Right. Thank you 415 00:20:59,628 --> 00:21:04,159 ... does approve. And so there are a number of projects that are already outlined 416 00:21:04,248 --> 00:21:10,038 in the capital budget, that are on task to be completed or in progress to be 417 00:21:10,098 --> 00:21:14,899 completed. So there is a comprehensive look at where the needs are citywide, and 418 00:21:14,928 --> 00:21:16,668 this council has approved that budget. 419 00:21:17,328 --> 00:21:18,948 Okay. Well, with that being said, Mr. 420 00:21:19,218 --> 00:21:24,468 Caffrey, what objective criteria was used to select the Masonic Corridor for this 421 00:21:24,768 --> 00:21:28,188 level of investment? Because as you said, Mr. 422 00:21:28,457 --> 00:21:33,228 Smith, there are six District 3s, which is Ms. Perry's area. 423 00:21:33,558 --> 00:21:37,578 District 4 is, I just stated off the streets that I travel all over the city. 424 00:21:37,968 --> 00:21:43,698 And people ask me, why do we even suggested to spend this type of money on the 425 00:21:43,758 --> 00:21:47,748 Masonic Corridor when you have so many other things that are needed within the 426 00:21:47,778 --> 00:21:52,068 city? As he mentioned, Brown Road. That to me comes to this. 427 00:21:52,098 --> 00:21:56,328 Let me say this, and then you can see I answered your question as you said last 428 00:21:56,388 --> 00:21:56,628 night. 429 00:21:57,978 --> 00:22:00,108 That the citizens are concerned, so- 430 00:22:05,598 --> 00:22:06,948 Oh, is he scared to come and talk? 431 00:22:07,938 --> 00:22:09,108 Well, it's never too scary. 432 00:22:09,318 --> 00:22:09,678 But anyway, 433 00:22:11,118 --> 00:22:15,978 that is the point of, again, I received this report at 2:45. 434 00:22:16,038 --> 00:22:19,728 I done sat in front of my computer all day long when this was emailed to me. 435 00:22:20,778 --> 00:22:23,988 And it was sent to you all two weeks ago, the agenda went out. 436 00:22:24,348 --> 00:22:28,518 So last week, the agenda went out, we should have had this much more in time to go 437 00:22:28,638 --> 00:22:33,048 across and digest it. And Mr. Caffrey, I do understand and appreciate you're just 438 00:22:33,108 --> 00:22:37,638 the mayor's spokesperson, but as someone who's told me stuff, asking you questions 439 00:22:37,938 --> 00:22:40,248 because you're not a department head person per se. 440 00:22:40,548 --> 00:22:45,228 But anyway, citizens are concerned about the Masonic Drive corridor, the whole 441 00:22:45,348 --> 00:22:50,149 area, for doing this, why it was selected, why are we investing so much money. 442 00:22:50,688 --> 00:22:56,149 And then two, saying this, people are telling me this came from the GATA board that 443 00:22:56,178 --> 00:22:59,988 was revamped in the city's program. 444 00:23:00,078 --> 00:23:00,198 So you- 445 00:23:00,438 --> 00:23:02,718 But in saying that, Mr. Caffrey, please. 446 00:23:03,558 --> 00:23:03,618 Oh. 447 00:23:03,738 --> 00:23:04,368 I'm going to 448 00:23:06,888 --> 00:23:12,798 ask that whatever ruling be made, if it goes out of this committee to, I 449 00:23:12,828 --> 00:23:16,668 think it's item four, to seriously consider what's going on. As Mr. 450 00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:20,178 Smith said, maybe we should bring this ordinance back down the road. 451 00:23:20,598 --> 00:23:25,399 I'm just saying as one person talking to many people across the city of Alexandria, 452 00:23:25,788 --> 00:23:31,038 not just one district, but the entire city, there's different people not happy with 453 00:23:31,068 --> 00:23:35,718 this idea. So how it goes from this point on, I'm going to vote, we'll see how it 454 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:36,738 goes. Thank you all. 455 00:23:36,768 --> 00:23:36,978 So- 456 00:23:37,339 --> 00:23:38,089 I got a question. 457 00:23:38,268 --> 00:23:40,128 So may I speak to that? 458 00:23:40,188 --> 00:23:41,478 So Councilman Green- 459 00:23:41,778 --> 00:23:41,778 Yes 460 00:23:41,778 --> 00:23:46,818 ... you're correct in regards to this having to do with GATA. 461 00:23:47,089 --> 00:23:50,748 As you know, I served two terms on GATA as your appointee when you were district 462 00:23:50,778 --> 00:23:51,858 councilman for District 3. 463 00:23:52,068 --> 00:23:52,278 Indeed. 464 00:23:52,548 --> 00:23:57,318 This is a part of the continuation of the SPARK plan that the city of Alexandria 465 00:23:57,378 --> 00:24:00,018 successfully undertook some number of years ago. 466 00:24:00,468 --> 00:24:05,778 There was concentration and focus on the other areas of the city, and so this 467 00:24:05,958 --> 00:24:10,368 CRA was one that kind of got neglected in that process, and so it's just to pick 468 00:24:10,428 --> 00:24:14,988 up. That's why it's called Reignite, because it is going to reignite a part of what 469 00:24:15,018 --> 00:24:19,428 was part of the SPARK plan and do this particular corridor that we are in right now 470 00:24:19,818 --> 00:24:24,078 along Masonic Drive. Part of, again, the explanation as to why this corridor was 471 00:24:24,108 --> 00:24:28,878 selected, if you look at the FAQs that have been placed on the transparency tab of 472 00:24:28,909 --> 00:24:31,159 the city's website, that information is there. 473 00:24:31,218 --> 00:24:34,339 It is the coming together of multiple council districts. 474 00:24:34,728 --> 00:24:34,968 That's right. 475 00:24:35,028 --> 00:24:39,409 It is at the heart of the city. The city has significant infrastructure in place 476 00:24:39,498 --> 00:24:44,988 along that corridor, from the zoo to recreational assets, to public safety assets, 477 00:24:45,258 --> 00:24:50,118 as well as it meets the medical needs of the city concentrated in that particular 478 00:24:50,208 --> 00:24:53,118 area. And it was the shopping hub for the city at one time. 479 00:24:53,388 --> 00:24:58,608 And so, as a part of the work that we have done in our due diligence internally and 480 00:24:58,668 --> 00:25:04,608 also with our external partners, ideally, this location impacts the vast majority 481 00:25:04,668 --> 00:25:06,918 of the citizenry of the city of Alexandria. 482 00:25:07,188 --> 00:25:11,149 It will have a ripple effect for those neighborhoods that are adjacent to this 483 00:25:11,208 --> 00:25:16,068 location and will also provide the, again, impetus for us to be able to go in and 484 00:25:16,128 --> 00:25:20,328 do some of the revitalization work or further revitalization work that we have been 485 00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:21,558 doing as an administration. 486 00:25:21,649 --> 00:25:24,048 I have a question. Good explanation. 487 00:25:24,468 --> 00:25:24,558 Yeah. 488 00:25:24,589 --> 00:25:27,078 Were other areas considered besides Masonic Drive? 489 00:25:28,878 --> 00:25:32,598 I think in regards to when we looked at this, yes, there were other hubs in other 490 00:25:32,659 --> 00:25:36,258 areas across the city that we looked at, and some of those have work that's already 491 00:25:36,318 --> 00:25:40,758 being done in them. But ideally with the components that this particular corridor 492 00:25:40,818 --> 00:25:45,529 provides, it was primarily the number one choice in regards to it. 493 00:25:45,589 --> 00:25:46,188 Number one choice. 494 00:25:46,248 --> 00:25:47,779 But it's not limited to just- 495 00:25:47,779 --> 00:25:48,108 Yes, it is not limited 496 00:25:48,108 --> 00:25:48,708 ... Masonic Drive. 497 00:25:49,728 --> 00:25:52,518 If you look at the recreational piece, that's part of Reignite. 498 00:25:52,548 --> 00:25:52,669 Right. 499 00:25:52,728 --> 00:25:57,288 We are doing work in parks all around the city, so that's one aspect of it, as well 500 00:25:57,348 --> 00:25:59,538 as some additional other work that will be done. 501 00:25:59,598 --> 00:26:02,029 All right. Are there any plans for downtown? 502 00:26:02,899 --> 00:26:04,518 Of course. Absolutely. Yeah. 503 00:26:04,728 --> 00:26:05,328 I'm just saying. 504 00:26:05,419 --> 00:26:07,188 So there are lots of plans for downtown. 505 00:26:07,188 --> 00:26:10,728 I'm just saying that given the fact that we got three projects going on downtown 506 00:26:10,818 --> 00:26:12,438 with the Allied Health building- 507 00:26:13,308 --> 00:26:15,139 Mm-hmm. Still to see in the pipeline 508 00:26:15,169 --> 00:26:17,149 ... and Global Impact, what they're doing. 509 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:17,389 Right. 510 00:26:17,508 --> 00:26:23,328 So the city came to the table with $3 million for the LSUA Allied Health campus in 511 00:26:23,389 --> 00:26:25,788 downtown Alexandria, and the mayor awarded- 512 00:26:25,968 --> 00:26:27,169 And the state put in 40. 513 00:26:27,589 --> 00:26:30,978 Yes. But in order for us to get to the $40 million and get a number one ranking- 514 00:26:31,038 --> 00:26:31,158 Right 515 00:26:31,158 --> 00:26:34,548 ... the $3 million that the city put on the table in the very beginning of this 516 00:26:34,578 --> 00:26:37,698 process helped move that along. And of course, the work of Dr. 517 00:26:37,878 --> 00:26:39,529 Burrell at the time and his team at LSUA. 518 00:26:40,248 --> 00:26:44,538 Yeah, we just finished the comprehensive riverfront project. It looks great. 519 00:26:45,558 --> 00:26:48,589 On the books coming up in the next few years from the MPO, we're gonna see Jackson 520 00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:51,919 Street be overlaid. We're gonna see Sixth and Poesy finally get reconstructed. 521 00:26:52,788 --> 00:26:56,839 And we also got $2 million from the state, as you guys know, to start doing, we 522 00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:59,358 won't do everything, but to start redoing the downtown sidewalks. 523 00:26:59,779 --> 00:26:59,839 Okay. 524 00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:00,978 And that's just the infrastructure part. 525 00:27:01,038 --> 00:27:04,848 But absolutely, behind the scenes, the city is helping in as much as it's 526 00:27:04,908 --> 00:27:09,288 appropriate for its role in the public sector to coordinate, to midwife these 527 00:27:09,318 --> 00:27:14,058 deals. I think that some of what you just mentioned that happened, likely would've 528 00:27:14,089 --> 00:27:15,858 happened with some efforts behind the scenes. 529 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:18,858 And as mentioned before, City Tower is coming online. 530 00:27:18,889 --> 00:27:22,068 There's work being done at the commercial building across the park, so there's a 531 00:27:22,128 --> 00:27:26,688 lot of other impetus from private investment in downtown as well, due to the work 532 00:27:26,718 --> 00:27:27,828 that the city's been putting in. 533 00:27:28,098 --> 00:27:29,419 Yeah. Not to mention the fence, of course. 534 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:29,688 All right 535 00:27:30,942 --> 00:27:31,602 So hopefully 536 00:27:33,132 --> 00:27:37,692 if we do some work on Sonic Drive, it'll inspire more private investment to want 537 00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:37,783 to- 538 00:27:38,382 --> 00:27:38,922 Possibly 539 00:27:39,013 --> 00:27:41,172 ... do this area right here as well. 540 00:27:42,822 --> 00:27:44,652 Okay. Any additional questions? 541 00:27:45,912 --> 00:27:46,962 All right, this meeting is adjourned. 542 00:27:47,022 --> 00:27:49,992 Thank you. We're happy to continue to answer questions as they come up- 543 00:27:50,232 --> 00:27:50,442 All right 544 00:27:50,442 --> 00:27:51,942 ... and we move forward with the process. Thank you. 545 00:27:51,972 --> 00:27:55,572 All right. Now, Madam Clerk, before I bang the gavel, do we need to refer this 546 00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:55,992 matter? 547 00:27:57,342 --> 00:28:00,703 If you want to refer it, yes, but it's still going to go on the agenda. 548 00:28:00,822 --> 00:28:02,112 It can go without referral. 549 00:28:02,172 --> 00:28:03,162 Okay. All right. 550 00:28:11,862 --> 00:28:12,612 Thank you, guys. 551 00:28:22,332 --> 00:28:23,502 He's amazing. 552 00:28:33,132 --> 00:28:34,092 I'll read it tonight. 553 00:28:35,143 --> 00:28:35,472 You sure? 554 00:28:37,033 --> 00:28:42,972 No, I'll get it done tonight. Lizzie, turn your microphone on. Is it on? 555 00:28:43,542 --> 00:28:43,962 Oh. 556 00:28:50,982 --> 00:28:52,122 Here. I just turned it on. 557 00:28:55,212 --> 00:28:55,513 Sorry. 558 00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:00,013 I think he's- 559 00:29:04,182 --> 00:29:04,272 No. 560 00:29:04,722 --> 00:29:05,143 Let's see if 561 00:29:20,232 --> 00:29:20,533 that one works. 562 00:29:21,252 --> 00:29:21,643 How you been? 563 00:29:24,822 --> 00:29:25,033 I'm good. 564 00:29:25,662 --> 00:29:26,772 No, this one here. You good? 565 00:29:28,572 --> 00:29:29,322 Five to 21 566 00:29:29,382 --> 00:29:38,082 days. 567 00:29:38,112 --> 00:29:43,453 I'm good. Yeah. 568 00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:45,252 What have you been doing? 569 00:29:45,703 --> 00:29:46,752 Pretty good. How are you? 570 00:29:47,382 --> 00:29:48,013 Making it work. 571 00:29:51,342 --> 00:29:52,033 Looking all right. 572 00:29:55,152 --> 00:29:55,302 Yeah. 573 00:29:58,632 --> 00:30:00,552 Didn't do much of the week. Went to church and 574 00:30:03,703 --> 00:30:05,232 I went to... What do you call it? 575 00:30:05,472 --> 00:30:06,102 I, um- 576 00:30:06,192 --> 00:30:07,722 Well, I'll deal with that, so I guess- 577 00:30:08,382 --> 00:30:10,212 Thank you. Thank you. 578 00:30:10,272 --> 00:30:12,192 Here you go, Claire. Start 579 00:30:12,283 --> 00:30:21,013 that 580 00:30:21,102 --> 00:30:21,703 over. That 581 00:30:23,232 --> 00:30:23,772 was it. 582 00:30:24,283 --> 00:30:24,852 Uh-oh. Okay. 583 00:30:24,912 --> 00:30:25,092 All right. 584 00:30:25,182 --> 00:30:27,132 Shoot, you're right. You're on. 585 00:30:27,222 --> 00:30:28,002 I know you'll do it. 586 00:30:28,362 --> 00:30:30,372 If I send something to your email- 587 00:30:30,582 --> 00:30:32,203 Okay. Bye 588 00:30:32,203 --> 00:30:32,982 ... can you print it? 589 00:30:33,732 --> 00:30:35,322 Never mind. Huh? 590 00:30:35,412 --> 00:30:39,882 I was asking him, if I send something to your email, can you print it for Jules 591 00:30:39,942 --> 00:30:40,393 tonight? 592 00:30:40,813 --> 00:30:42,283 I have to print it on the printer. 593 00:30:42,372 --> 00:30:43,272 It's the... Okay. 594 00:30:52,632 --> 00:30:53,263 Good God. 595 00:30:58,212 --> 00:30:59,622 Stay a minute. 596 00:30:59,742 --> 00:31:00,402 Yeah, I know. 597 00:31:00,432 --> 00:31:01,033 Hey, Ash. 598 00:31:07,842 --> 00:31:12,342 All right. 599 00:31:12,432 --> 00:31:13,092 We're ready. 600 00:31:13,393 --> 00:31:14,052 Oh, we're good. 601 00:31:22,122 --> 00:31:26,893 The City of Alexandria City Council meeting is called to order at 5:00 PM, 602 00:31:27,912 --> 00:31:32,502 5:15 exact. The Alexandria City Council meeting and council meetings are broadcast 603 00:31:32,563 --> 00:31:37,602 live and may be viewed live by the public on Optimum Cable Channel 4, and 604 00:31:37,662 --> 00:31:42,432 rebroadcast may be viewed on Optimum Cable Channel 4 and the City of Alexandria 605 00:31:42,492 --> 00:31:45,462 website. We have the invocation by 606 00:31:46,752 --> 00:31:49,302 Mr. Caffrey and the pledge by 607 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:51,643 Councilman Johnson. 608 00:31:57,612 --> 00:31:58,453 Let us pray. 609 00:32:00,013 --> 00:32:04,092 Gracious God, our Father, we thank you for this opportunity to assemble in this 610 00:32:04,152 --> 00:32:08,022 great place. We ask that you be God in the midst of our time here together. 611 00:32:08,622 --> 00:32:13,602 Bless each one of these leaders and each citizen who has come to this place tonight 612 00:32:13,692 --> 00:32:19,063 to be heard. We ask that clear hearts and clear minds prevail, and bless this great 613 00:32:19,122 --> 00:32:22,692 city of Alexandria. In Christ Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. 614 00:32:22,813 --> 00:32:23,472 Amen. 615 00:32:24,102 --> 00:32:24,882 Face the flag. 616 00:32:25,992 --> 00:32:30,792 I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the 617 00:32:30,792 --> 00:32:36,643 Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 618 00:32:36,732 --> 00:32:37,783 justice for all. 619 00:32:40,783 --> 00:32:42,582 We have roll call. Mr. Johnson? 620 00:32:43,033 --> 00:32:43,212 Here. 621 00:32:43,422 --> 00:32:44,502 Ms. Felder? 622 00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:44,533 Here. 623 00:32:44,592 --> 00:32:45,162 Ms. Green? 624 00:32:45,882 --> 00:32:46,242 Present. 625 00:32:46,513 --> 00:32:47,112 Mr. Fowler? 626 00:32:47,292 --> 00:32:47,712 I'm here. 627 00:32:47,953 --> 00:32:48,582 Mr. Belard? 628 00:32:48,643 --> 00:32:48,852 Here. 629 00:32:48,882 --> 00:32:49,033 Mr. Largo? 630 00:32:49,152 --> 00:32:49,272 Here. 631 00:32:49,272 --> 00:32:49,962 Ms. Harris? 632 00:32:50,022 --> 00:32:50,232 Here. 633 00:32:50,712 --> 00:32:52,572 Director, you have the floor. 634 00:32:52,632 --> 00:32:56,082 We have the approval of minutes taken from a regular meeting held on September 635 00:32:56,412 --> 00:32:58,542 22nd. I need a motion and a second. 636 00:32:59,232 --> 00:33:00,042 Moved. 637 00:33:00,313 --> 00:33:03,492 Public comments. What section of this written minutes you would like to make a 638 00:33:03,552 --> 00:33:07,482 comment on? If it's not in the written minutes, there will not be any comment or 639 00:33:07,872 --> 00:33:13,002 discussion. If you have any questions pertaining to any item on the agenda, please 640 00:33:13,063 --> 00:33:16,393 contact the administration before or after the meeting. 641 00:33:17,802 --> 00:33:18,552 All in favor? 642 00:33:18,942 --> 00:33:19,182 Aye. 643 00:33:19,212 --> 00:33:23,232 Any opposed? Motion carried. We have the same calendar. 644 00:33:25,002 --> 00:33:28,393 Number one, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the low 645 00:33:28,453 --> 00:33:32,953 bid submitted for brass fitting. Number two, introduction of an ordinance 646 00:33:33,072 --> 00:33:38,442 authorizing the mayor to accept the low bid submitted for a 47-foot Shae height 647 00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:43,453 hydraulic digger decker truck, derrick truck. 648 00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:47,502 Number three, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the low 649 00:33:47,563 --> 00:33:52,662 bid submitted for a 40-inch hydraulic drive submersible pump. 650 00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:56,563 Number four, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the 651 00:33:56,621 --> 00:34:01,932 lowest proposal received for fresh impression cleaning crew for janitorial services 652 00:34:01,992 --> 00:34:04,092 for the Alexandria Zoological Park. 653 00:34:04,482 --> 00:34:05,832 I need a motion and a second. 654 00:34:05,893 --> 00:34:06,643 Moved. 655 00:34:06,732 --> 00:34:11,203 Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman Belard. Any items to committee? 656 00:34:14,172 --> 00:34:15,132 Any resolutions? 657 00:34:15,703 --> 00:34:21,643 G, resolution. Number five, resolution to co-sponsor Believe the Musical production 658 00:34:21,703 --> 00:34:23,472 in January 2027. 659 00:34:23,623 --> 00:34:24,402 Motion, please? 660 00:34:24,942 --> 00:34:25,422 Moved. 661 00:34:25,513 --> 00:34:25,873 Second? 662 00:34:26,112 --> 00:34:26,533 Second. 663 00:34:27,042 --> 00:34:27,432 Second. 664 00:34:27,522 --> 00:34:30,582 Second. Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilwoman Felder. 665 00:34:30,643 --> 00:34:32,953 Public comments, discussion? All in favor? 666 00:34:33,132 --> 00:34:33,252 Aye. 667 00:34:33,312 --> 00:34:34,662 Any opposed? Motion carried. 668 00:34:35,082 --> 00:34:39,102 Number six, resolution authorizing advertisement for bids for this project and 669 00:34:39,192 --> 00:34:44,592 signage for public streets and other public properties 2026 through 670 00:34:44,802 --> 00:34:45,732 2028. 671 00:34:45,852 --> 00:34:46,542 Motion, please? 672 00:34:46,752 --> 00:34:47,232 Moved. 673 00:34:47,322 --> 00:34:51,102 Second. Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman Belard. 674 00:34:51,373 --> 00:34:52,902 Public comments, discussion? 675 00:34:53,172 --> 00:34:53,922 Yes. 676 00:34:53,953 --> 00:34:55,632 Discussion, Councilman Green? 677 00:34:55,842 --> 00:35:00,942 I know we're going to spend $259,531.45. 678 00:35:01,512 --> 00:35:04,002 When will they determine the streets will be done? 679 00:35:04,062 --> 00:35:09,072 I'm saying citywide, but are there any particular areas, administration, that 680 00:35:09,102 --> 00:35:09,972 they're going to use? 681 00:35:11,172 --> 00:35:14,172 So this matter is just in reference to the advertisement for the bids. 682 00:35:15,102 --> 00:35:18,612 I know you have advertisement for the bids, but what areas will the advertised bids 683 00:35:18,702 --> 00:35:19,212 for, sir? 684 00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:23,052 So that information will be determined once we get the bid back. 685 00:35:28,393 --> 00:35:29,952 Okay. Thank you. 686 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:32,382 Any opposed? Motion carried. 687 00:35:33,042 --> 00:35:35,772 H, ordinances for final adoption subject to public hearing. 688 00:35:35,802 --> 00:35:39,822 Number seven, to consider final adoption of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 689 00:35:39,852 --> 00:35:42,312 accept the low bid submitted for turnout gear. 690 00:35:42,643 --> 00:35:43,722 A motion and a second? 691 00:35:43,782 --> 00:35:44,172 Moved. 692 00:35:44,502 --> 00:35:45,072 Second. 693 00:35:45,192 --> 00:35:47,982 Motion by Councilman Belard, second by Councilman Fowler. 694 00:35:48,102 --> 00:35:51,042 Public comments, discussion? All in favor? 695 00:35:51,222 --> 00:35:51,552 Aye. 696 00:35:51,612 --> 00:35:52,962 Any opposed? Motion carried. 697 00:35:53,052 --> 00:35:56,232 Number eight, to consider final adoption of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 698 00:35:56,262 --> 00:36:00,702 accept the low bid for high mast lighting for the electric distribution department. 699 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:01,842 A motion and a second. 700 00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:02,502 Moved. 701 00:36:03,222 --> 00:36:06,702 Motion by Councilman Johnson, second by Councilman Belard. 702 00:36:06,852 --> 00:36:09,612 Public comments, discussion? All in favor? 703 00:36:09,882 --> 00:36:10,062 Aye. 704 00:36:10,123 --> 00:36:11,472 Any opposed? Motion carried. 705 00:36:11,682 --> 00:36:14,893 Number nine, to consider final adoption of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 706 00:36:14,952 --> 00:36:20,082 accept the low bid submitted for annual requirement contract, water, wastewater, 707 00:36:20,232 --> 00:36:23,682 natural gas, and general site-related systems. 708 00:36:25,062 --> 00:36:25,123 Moved. 709 00:36:25,182 --> 00:36:26,082 Motion, please? 710 00:36:26,172 --> 00:36:26,562 Second. 711 00:36:27,012 --> 00:36:29,712 Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman Belard. 712 00:36:29,802 --> 00:36:32,502 Public comments, discussion? All in favor? 713 00:36:32,562 --> 00:36:32,922 Aye. 714 00:36:32,982 --> 00:36:34,542 Any opposed? Motion carried. 715 00:36:34,932 --> 00:36:40,332 Number 10, to consider final adoption of an ordinance to authorize an 716 00:36:40,422 --> 00:36:43,302 economic impact study for Reignite Planning. 717 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,870 Motion. Move. Moved by Councilman Malloy. Second? 718 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,460 Second by Councilman Johnson. 719 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:50,910 Move by- 720 00:36:52,260 --> 00:36:52,741 I'm better with that. 721 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,290 Because I say your name so much. You're doing it. I'm just- Okay. 722 00:36:58,710 --> 00:37:02,250 Motion by Councilman Malloy, second by Councilman Johnson. 723 00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:02,730 By Sec- 724 00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:03,721 Lava Dame. 725 00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:04,020 Lava Dame. 726 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:04,680 Lava Dame. 727 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,480 Second by Councilman Johnson. 728 00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:08,790 Do you have him, Ms. Emily? 729 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,030 Yes. 730 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:09,540 Thank you. 731 00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:10,380 No worries. 732 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,030 We have comments by 733 00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:14,221 Mr. Davis. 734 00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:24,840 Randolph Davis, Sr., 735 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,320 citizen of Alexandria. I've got some questions regarding the Reignite, and 736 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:37,471 people are asking me around the city that really doesn't understand how the 737 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,601 taxpayers' dollars are being funded. 738 00:37:40,741 --> 00:37:45,780 As it was mentioned by Councilman Green, when you walk those areas 739 00:37:47,010 --> 00:37:47,790 along Halbert 740 00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:56,340 and those crests and areas along that area, and Van Street, when the corridors and 741 00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:58,680 the roads are bad, the houses are blighted. 742 00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:01,380 There's even some houses over there that are- 743 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,491 Oh, yeah 744 00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:05,640 ... the electricity's being generated by 745 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:12,300 generators. Some people have serious concerns about the brown water, 746 00:38:13,260 --> 00:38:18,960 and some people are carrying buckets of water because their water lines are broken, 747 00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:24,960 and it's a disaster on that side. And my concern is that 748 00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:29,971 how much was the council involved in deciding that 749 00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:35,971 the Reignite program, the continuation of Spark, should be put on 750 00:38:36,601 --> 00:38:41,820 Masonic, because I heard the mentioning of the potential of revenue from the 751 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,830 hospital and the mall. And I understand the mall needs a lot of help, because I 752 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:52,380 know the manager pretty well, but that's a process in itself. 753 00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:58,830 But the real question is, as Malcolm said, is why didn't we do the 754 00:38:58,890 --> 00:39:02,010 research before we started the project? 755 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,020 I think we're doing the research. 756 00:39:04,110 --> 00:39:05,400 We're doing the research. 757 00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:08,580 No, before. The project is already started, Malcolm. 758 00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:09,120 Mm-hmm. 759 00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:11,190 We've already started working on parks. 760 00:39:11,971 --> 00:39:16,650 We've already put pickleball courts in, right? It's already started. 761 00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:20,790 No, people have not voted, people have not 762 00:39:21,991 --> 00:39:27,180 saw an amendment, people have not said anything about, "I want Reignite." 763 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,840 People I'm talking to on every district said, "We did not see anything on 764 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:39,330 an agenda or talk about our approving it, because that's not what I wanted." See, 765 00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:44,221 the thing I'm concerned about is that right now, with the crime rate and the things 766 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:49,170 that are needed throughout our city, we needed to put the money in the places where 767 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:55,110 we knew it would have an impact to affect our population decline and 768 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,160 crime in our city. 769 00:39:56,249 --> 00:39:56,520 So Mr. 770 00:39:57,749 --> 00:39:58,230 Davis- 771 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,530 Go ahead 772 00:39:58,950 --> 00:40:01,770 ... this is for the impact of the study. 773 00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:05,910 Right. And my question is related to that- 774 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:06,480 Yes, sir 775 00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:06,900 ... is that 776 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:14,580 I understand it's for the impact of the study, but I'm asking that before it even 777 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,101 got to this point, President- 778 00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:17,820 Yes, sir 779 00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:20,491 ... how much information did the council have? 780 00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:25,920 How much voting power did y'all have before we moved forward on this process? 781 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,400 Thank you, Mr. Davis. 782 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,770 And we have Ms. Shamara? 783 00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:35,340 Shamira. 784 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,170 Shamira. Did anyone ask their question? 785 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:38,760 I don't see 786 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,230 anyone. 787 00:40:43,351 --> 00:40:45,750 Oh, good afternoon. I'm Shamira, trying not to cough. 788 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,710 So this is what Reignite means to me. This is what it stands for to me. 789 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,980 Restoring every inadequate gentrified neighborhood impacting the economy. 790 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,280 That's what Reignite stands for, it means to me. 791 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,930 We need an ROI, 792 00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:11,190 return on investments. The projected 80 to 100 million is projected to be 793 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,260 more than 80 to 100 million 794 00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:20,880 because projects like these have been put as priority one or P1 projects, versus 795 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,491 our brown water issues, utility bills, and our roads and flooding issues. 796 00:41:27,241 --> 00:41:29,851 Let's not even talk about our homeless population. 797 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,480 How can we build this type of project around a homeless population? 798 00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:35,730 That wouldn't be a good look for our economy. 799 00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:42,900 Reignite, along with Johnny Downs, along with Links on the Bayou, along with the 800 00:41:42,991 --> 00:41:48,900 Alexandria Zoo, excusing the ATRANS due to the low pay and high poverty rate, which 801 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,400 is 27% here. 802 00:41:51,721 --> 00:41:55,710 You've already approved millions of money. 803 00:41:55,770 --> 00:42:00,450 Let's not approve any more because no major project should have been approved with 804 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,020 the mayor, 805 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:06,300 this being his last year, it shouldn't have been approved, period. Thank you. 806 00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:07,080 Thank you. Thank you. 807 00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:15,480 Mr. Roland, we have next. I don't know who we 808 00:42:20,491 --> 00:42:21,030 have. You can go. 809 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,550 Jack Powell, Power to the People. Well, my first question would be, if Reignite has 810 00:42:26,610 --> 00:42:30,210 an $82 million investment, what measure per share is going into historical Black 811 00:42:30,270 --> 00:42:33,750 neighborhoods that require critical debt, drainage, street, and infrastructure 812 00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:38,730 fixes? And why is the primary visible investment that 813 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,750 is currently a playground? My question is that if it's an $82 million project, 814 00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:49,290 say, investment, why the only investment that we see, and it's just not me asking, 815 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:53,160 the whole community wants to know, why the only thing that we see given in our 816 00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:59,040 community is a slide? Is a slide that we feel like was used for granddaddy 817 00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:02,580 tokenism because our children was brought to it, and our children was- 818 00:43:02,910 --> 00:43:03,000 Mister 819 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:06,750 ... was photo opticed out of it, so I'm wondering why- 820 00:43:06,810 --> 00:43:07,650 Mr. Lucious. Mister. 821 00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:09,690 Okay, okay. 822 00:43:09,721 --> 00:43:12,479 You stay on the study of the Reignite. 823 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:13,440 Okay. 824 00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:20,491 And you make all your comments, as long as you make it about the study of the 825 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:20,851 Reignite. 826 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,120 But wouldn't it be with Reignite? Doesn't Reignite have everything to do with the 827 00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:26,400 why the playground got- 828 00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:28,620 But you were talking about the photo ops and different things like that. 829 00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:32,700 Well, if it's an optice, if it's not really the money being used for what the $82 830 00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:33,840 million for, okay, I got you. 831 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:40,770 How will the study determine whether Reignite benefits Alexandria as a whole, 832 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:43,980 including historical Black and low-income neighborhoods outside the Masonic 833 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,700 Corridor? Given the local media, KALB, also reported mixed experience among 834 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,900 corridor businesses, including some that are reporting declines, will the study 835 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,830 explicitly capture the real-world experience of existing local shops, or will it 836 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:01,230 only focus on projected future developments? 837 00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:05,250 What specific measurable results will cause the city to conclude that Reignite is 838 00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:10,590 not working? And will the full study be released publicly 839 00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:14,971 before additional taxpayer money is committed? 840 00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:16,410 Yeah. 841 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:18,690 Yes. 842 00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:19,530 It's the purpose of it. 843 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,390 So it's the purpose of the study is- 844 00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:21,960 The study, yes 845 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,450 ... study. Okay. 846 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,020 Thank you. 847 00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:25,741 That's all I got. 848 00:44:26,221 --> 00:44:26,851 Thank you. 849 00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:30,270 Discussion. Discussion? All in favor? 850 00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:32,010 Hold on, hold on. The reason why- 851 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,550 I'm sorry 852 00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:36,570 ... the reason why I did this is to address those concerns there, is so that people 853 00:44:36,601 --> 00:44:37,020 will know 854 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,560 what's happening with their money before it's spent and give them an idea to see 855 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,530 what the return will be. So once the study's done, we'll see what's what, and 856 00:44:49,590 --> 00:44:49,860 we'll- 857 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,420 Make the public know 858 00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:55,320 ... let the public know, then we'll address it, but we do have some pressing needs, 859 00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:59,940 and I get why folk are concerned because we do have pressing needs in the city of 860 00:44:59,971 --> 00:45:00,660 Alexandria. 861 00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:03,900 Opportunity, Shamira. I'm sorry. 862 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:08,310 So that's why we're doing this, so I'm finished with that. 863 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:09,810 Any more comments? 864 00:45:10,351 --> 00:45:14,820 Yeah. After talking in committee, I think it was good to kind of lay a few things 865 00:45:14,910 --> 00:45:19,680 out and discuss, and I think making sure that we do study things along the way, 866 00:45:20,310 --> 00:45:24,570 which is a requirement in their plan as well, I think that's a good thing. 867 00:45:24,721 --> 00:45:30,270 Yeah, because building a pickleball court, those are relatively inexpensive- 868 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:30,390 Right 869 00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:35,280 ... as opposed to spending another over 80 plus million along the way, so. 870 00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:37,170 And people enjoy the courts. 871 00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:38,400 Do you want to- 872 00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:38,880 Yeah, but we still- 873 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,540 ... respond now? 874 00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:43,020 Please, but one thing is before we do anything, it has to go in front of the 875 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:43,440 people. 876 00:45:44,101 --> 00:45:45,150 Thank you. 877 00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:45,540 Well- 878 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:47,790 If we do it, it has to go in front of the people. 879 00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:48,991 Well, this is why Malcolm- 880 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:49,140 Yeah 881 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,510 ... I'm sorry, Councilman Lava Dame- 882 00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:52,140 That's fine. I'm sorry 883 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,810 ... suggests this study. Am I correct? 884 00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:57,601 Yeah. It's great. So this can't go before the people, and the people can know where 885 00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:58,200 the money's going. 886 00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:58,471 Right 887 00:45:59,235 --> 00:46:05,085 And I think it will in our process, as the projects are planned, 888 00:46:05,385 --> 00:46:10,635 things will come before us, and we'll be able to review them because it can't 889 00:46:10,695 --> 00:46:12,616 proceed unless this body approves it. 890 00:46:12,675 --> 00:46:13,096 Approves it. 891 00:46:14,355 --> 00:46:14,985 That's correct. 892 00:46:16,995 --> 00:46:17,265 All right. 893 00:46:17,655 --> 00:46:17,985 You good? 894 00:46:18,346 --> 00:46:18,765 Yeah. 895 00:46:18,915 --> 00:46:21,735 Okay. Any opposed? Motion carried. 896 00:46:22,455 --> 00:46:22,815 All right. 897 00:46:23,805 --> 00:46:28,695 Number 11, to consider finding an option of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 898 00:46:28,726 --> 00:46:33,735 renew the existing contract with Yankee Holding, doing business as Yankee Clipper 899 00:46:33,795 --> 00:46:37,305 for landscape maintenance services for Jackson at MacArthur. 900 00:46:37,425 --> 00:46:38,175 Motion, please. 901 00:46:38,445 --> 00:46:38,596 Moved. 902 00:46:38,685 --> 00:46:41,055 Motion by Councilwoman Feltes. 903 00:46:41,055 --> 00:46:41,175 Second. 904 00:46:41,265 --> 00:46:45,105 Second by Councilman Vallort. Public comments? Discussion? 905 00:46:45,165 --> 00:46:45,285 Yes. 906 00:46:45,945 --> 00:46:46,994 I'm sorry, Mr. Green. 907 00:46:48,105 --> 00:46:48,976 Madam President, 908 00:46:51,015 --> 00:46:54,405 and the administration, and this is simple. 909 00:46:55,155 --> 00:46:58,695 Who do we have that goes behind these people to make sure they're doing what 910 00:46:58,726 --> 00:47:01,846 they're supposed to do with these contracts? 911 00:47:01,905 --> 00:47:03,976 And I'm going to get to where I'm going with this in just a second. 912 00:47:04,215 --> 00:47:08,325 Can anyone tell me the name of what department goes behind each one of these down 913 00:47:08,355 --> 00:47:09,495 the line that we're going to do? 914 00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:11,385 Okay. 915 00:47:12,915 --> 00:47:16,065 July the 28th, I'm just going to tell you why I'm going where I'm going. 916 00:47:16,635 --> 00:47:18,765 There was a renewed contract 917 00:47:19,995 --> 00:47:22,785 by us on the recommendation of the mayor. 918 00:47:26,355 --> 00:47:27,825 Complaints from KLV 919 00:47:29,415 --> 00:47:33,045 about a bedbug situation on the bus. 920 00:47:33,585 --> 00:47:39,465 And this is following on us to see who follows through on the contracts that we 921 00:47:39,616 --> 00:47:42,645 approve that they are being conducted properly. 922 00:47:42,915 --> 00:47:46,785 That's why I stopped on number 11, so we'll know the rest of the ones that are 923 00:47:46,815 --> 00:47:48,645 being approved, and they are being 924 00:47:48,705 --> 00:47:54,015 approved because of the mayor's 925 00:47:54,045 --> 00:47:57,465 administration. Because that was an urgent situation. 926 00:47:57,495 --> 00:47:59,955 The lady got on the bus at 9:00, said it was filthy. 927 00:48:00,555 --> 00:48:02,775 We voted to give these people this contract. 928 00:48:03,405 --> 00:48:07,395 Who follows up on the contracts that they are doing what they're supposed to do? 929 00:48:08,175 --> 00:48:09,255 And that's all I just wanted to say. 930 00:48:10,905 --> 00:48:11,985 I got a question. 931 00:48:14,445 --> 00:48:19,185 Okay, so I understand your question about who followed up on every contract, not 932 00:48:19,545 --> 00:48:20,715 that specifically. 933 00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:25,065 Yeah. That's why I stopped on number 11 to see on all the one, two, three, four, 934 00:48:25,155 --> 00:48:29,895 five, six that we have, just who follows up to make sure it's being done properly. 935 00:48:30,226 --> 00:48:33,315 Now, I don't want to get in the weeds on this, but 936 00:48:34,785 --> 00:48:38,866 that's kind of tricky when you say bedbugs because you cannot... 937 00:48:41,895 --> 00:48:43,425 We're not going to bring you up on this. 938 00:48:43,485 --> 00:48:45,705 I won't help you on that because that's your job. 939 00:48:45,795 --> 00:48:46,635 Just the professionals. 940 00:48:46,695 --> 00:48:48,585 Yeah. I'll let you get to that. 941 00:48:48,675 --> 00:48:50,116 Oh. No, I'm going to reference him. 942 00:48:50,895 --> 00:48:51,015 Yeah. 943 00:48:51,075 --> 00:48:55,395 I'm sorry, not to him, but to you, sir. But it was on KLV, it was the seventh. 944 00:48:55,455 --> 00:48:59,565 The city released a notification about it, that the bus was removed. 945 00:48:59,625 --> 00:49:01,545 And that's all I'm asking, ladies and gentlemen. 946 00:49:02,265 --> 00:49:06,855 If we approve this, who follows up to make sure each one of these contracts are 947 00:49:06,945 --> 00:49:08,866 properly vetted? Thank you. 948 00:49:08,895 --> 00:49:14,265 Madam President, if I may. So first to address the fact 949 00:49:14,325 --> 00:49:18,525 that the discussion about Atrans or any incident that happened on the bus is not 950 00:49:18,585 --> 00:49:19,035 germane- 951 00:49:19,575 --> 00:49:19,995 Correct 952 00:49:19,995 --> 00:49:25,275 ... to the agenda item. But as it relates to contracts and contract monitoring, 953 00:49:25,665 --> 00:49:30,165 contracts are monitored within the divisions or the departments whereby which those 954 00:49:30,226 --> 00:49:35,145 contracts are let. So it could be anyone from the division director to a 955 00:49:35,205 --> 00:49:39,255 superintendent of a various department, or to some designee within the finance 956 00:49:39,315 --> 00:49:43,245 division in order to do that. So for a specific contract, we would need to know 957 00:49:43,275 --> 00:49:46,185 what contract that is to determine who monitors that contract. 958 00:49:46,545 --> 00:49:52,096 To speak to Councilman Green's concern relative to the bus, again, with a 959 00:49:52,125 --> 00:49:55,395 situation such as that, there are a number of 960 00:49:57,075 --> 00:50:00,525 matters that you have to take into account with regard to that. 961 00:50:00,585 --> 00:50:02,955 Particularly, it is public transportation. 962 00:50:03,255 --> 00:50:07,005 Multiple individuals through the course of the day get on and off of that bus. 963 00:50:07,815 --> 00:50:13,425 And so once we were notified, unfortunately through KLV, we did pull that bus from 964 00:50:13,515 --> 00:50:18,226 service. We had it serviced and fumigated. We also had the entire fleet done so. 965 00:50:18,645 --> 00:50:24,285 We do maintain daily cleaning of all the buses, so that process would have 966 00:50:24,346 --> 00:50:28,275 not caught that had it been done during the course of the bus' 967 00:50:29,355 --> 00:50:31,575 running its route. 968 00:50:32,055 --> 00:50:32,325 Okay. 969 00:50:33,735 --> 00:50:36,525 I have a procedural question. 970 00:50:38,476 --> 00:50:43,275 If we want, even as the council, to address something that is not germane to the 971 00:50:43,335 --> 00:50:47,295 meeting, we're supposed to make a motion to add- 972 00:50:47,325 --> 00:50:47,476 Correct 973 00:50:47,476 --> 00:50:49,305 ... to the agenda by unanimous consent. 974 00:50:49,635 --> 00:50:49,965 Correct. 975 00:50:50,055 --> 00:50:55,035 So you bringing up the Atrans, while I am glad to hear this explanation, 976 00:50:55,875 --> 00:51:01,366 wasn't germane to our agenda. So if we expect the public to follow our 977 00:51:01,425 --> 00:51:04,125 procedures, we should also follow our procedures. 978 00:51:04,305 --> 00:51:05,295 Well, Ms. Felter. 979 00:51:06,045 --> 00:51:06,255 Feltes. 980 00:51:07,155 --> 00:51:07,425 What is- 981 00:51:07,935 --> 00:51:08,235 Feltes. 982 00:51:08,415 --> 00:51:09,825 Feltes. Excuse my pronunciation. 983 00:51:09,915 --> 00:51:10,096 That's 984 00:51:11,895 --> 00:51:12,045 okay. 985 00:51:12,045 --> 00:51:14,596 I brought it up because we're going to vote on the 11th. 986 00:51:15,255 --> 00:51:17,505 I have more votes, I have more items. 987 00:51:17,565 --> 00:51:23,145 And all I wanted to know was, and I did announce the Atrans situation, but all I 988 00:51:23,175 --> 00:51:26,295 wanted to know was who is responsible- 989 00:51:27,285 --> 00:51:27,375 Yeah 990 00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:29,295 ... for maintaining, following through on the contracts. 991 00:51:29,385 --> 00:51:33,465 When we vote for this stuff, people look at us saying we voted on it, but we are 992 00:51:33,525 --> 00:51:35,565 voting on the recommendation of the administration. 993 00:51:35,596 --> 00:51:37,935 Well, technically, we're voting on the lowest bidder. 994 00:51:38,805 --> 00:51:42,106 The administration recommends it, but because we legally have to go with the lowest 995 00:51:42,165 --> 00:51:42,405 bidder. 996 00:51:42,645 --> 00:51:46,665 We did. We do. But my question again, how everyone looked at it- 997 00:51:46,695 --> 00:51:47,775 The lowest responsive bidder. 998 00:51:47,775 --> 00:51:49,726 Lowest responsive bidder. So I understand that that was your question. 999 00:51:49,815 --> 00:51:54,615 I was just pointing out procedurally, you could have asked about the contract 1000 00:51:54,675 --> 00:51:57,465 without bringing in something that wasn't germane to the topic. 1001 00:51:57,495 --> 00:51:57,705 Well- 1002 00:51:57,705 --> 00:51:57,705 Yes 1003 00:51:57,735 --> 00:52:02,865 ... it's a contract that's done by the city, that was done by the city, approved by 1004 00:52:02,895 --> 00:52:08,025 the city. KLV responded. That the citizens that the administration responded to, 1005 00:52:08,266 --> 00:52:09,826 we're not going to get into all the affairs about this. 1006 00:52:09,885 --> 00:52:10,215 Am I- 1007 00:52:10,275 --> 00:52:11,356 I'm going to move right along. 1008 00:52:11,476 --> 00:52:11,715 Thank you. 1009 00:52:11,805 --> 00:52:16,305 I just asked the question, Ms. Lizzie, about why, when, and who does that. 1010 00:52:16,516 --> 00:52:17,175 Thank you all. 1011 00:52:17,205 --> 00:52:17,535 Thank you. 1012 00:52:17,955 --> 00:52:18,315 Questions? 1013 00:52:19,875 --> 00:52:20,175 Okay. 1014 00:52:20,476 --> 00:52:21,495 Questions may come. 1015 00:52:22,275 --> 00:52:23,324 One comment please. 1016 00:52:24,226 --> 00:52:26,955 The questions may come. The questions may come. 1017 00:52:28,155 --> 00:52:29,025 All in favor? 1018 00:52:29,115 --> 00:52:29,504 Aye. 1019 00:52:29,565 --> 00:52:31,245 Any opposed? Motion carried. 1020 00:52:32,175 --> 00:52:35,775 Number 12, to consider finding an option of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 1021 00:52:35,835 --> 00:52:41,535 renew the existing contract with Yankee Holding, doing business as Yankee Clipper 1022 00:52:41,596 --> 00:52:46,635 for landscape maintenance services for I-49 Greenbelt. 1023 00:52:47,145 --> 00:52:48,106 Motion, please. 1024 00:52:48,195 --> 00:52:48,585 Moved. 1025 00:52:48,645 --> 00:52:49,125 Second? 1026 00:52:49,185 --> 00:52:49,545 Second. 1027 00:52:50,115 --> 00:52:53,266 Motion by Councilman Vallort, second by Councilwoman Feltes. 1028 00:52:53,295 --> 00:52:55,425 To public comments, discussion? 1029 00:52:55,485 --> 00:52:56,205 Can I have a comment? 1030 00:52:56,356 --> 00:52:56,835 Okay. 1031 00:52:57,285 --> 00:53:01,516 On these items, I think it's 5 of them, 5 or 6 of them, whatever it is, all of 1032 00:53:01,606 --> 00:53:06,106 these are renewals of existing contracts by the year. 1033 00:53:06,645 --> 00:53:09,555 So these folks have already done a year's worth of work. 1034 00:53:09,945 --> 00:53:15,255 They're being renewed at a set price, which saves the city money, and I would think 1035 00:53:15,315 --> 00:53:19,245 that over a year's time, if they weren't doing a proper job, we'd know about it. 1036 00:53:19,875 --> 00:53:20,115 Mm-hmm. 1037 00:53:20,565 --> 00:53:25,606 So I would think the superintendent and the folks in the bus department, or 1038 00:53:25,635 --> 00:53:30,135 wherever, not bus department, wherever heads up that department, they would be the 1039 00:53:30,195 --> 00:53:31,125 ones that monitor. 1040 00:53:31,545 --> 00:53:32,115 I would hope so. 1041 00:53:32,266 --> 00:53:37,545 I know that we've had problems with some of these people before, on some parks, and 1042 00:53:37,995 --> 00:53:40,875 people complained, and we had to change- 1043 00:53:41,085 --> 00:53:42,165 Change the services 1044 00:53:42,195 --> 00:53:44,655 ... change this thing because they weren't keeping up their duty. 1045 00:53:45,465 --> 00:53:45,675 Mm-hmm. 1046 00:53:46,305 --> 00:53:46,305 Okay. 1047 00:53:46,365 --> 00:53:47,235 All in favor? 1048 00:53:47,326 --> 00:53:47,445 Aye. 1049 00:53:47,835 --> 00:53:49,545 Any opposed? Motion carried. 1050 00:53:49,785 --> 00:53:53,266 Number 13, to consider finding an option of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 1051 00:53:53,295 --> 00:53:58,755 renew the existing contract with Ted Fin, LLC for landscape maintenance services 1052 00:53:58,785 --> 00:53:59,715 for Martin Park. 1053 00:53:59,985 --> 00:54:00,735 Motion, please. 1054 00:54:00,795 --> 00:54:01,305 Moved. 1055 00:54:01,395 --> 00:54:05,505 Motion by Councilman Vallort, second by Councilman Fowler. Public comments? 1056 00:54:05,835 --> 00:54:07,665 Discussion? All in favor? 1057 00:54:07,905 --> 00:54:08,055 Aye. 1058 00:54:08,145 --> 00:54:09,735 Any opposed? Motion carried. 1059 00:54:10,245 --> 00:54:13,665 Number 14, to consider finding an option of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 1060 00:54:13,726 --> 00:54:18,465 renew the existing contract with Taylor Escape for landscape maintenance services 1061 00:54:18,525 --> 00:54:19,965 for the community centers. 1062 00:54:20,145 --> 00:54:20,895 Motion, please. 1063 00:54:20,955 --> 00:54:21,525 Moved. 1064 00:54:21,615 --> 00:54:25,935 Motion by Councilman Vallort, second by Councilman Fowler. Public comments? 1065 00:54:26,025 --> 00:54:27,945 Discussion? All in favor? 1066 00:54:28,125 --> 00:54:28,395 Aye. 1067 00:54:28,455 --> 00:54:30,045 Any opposed? Motion carried. 1068 00:54:30,555 --> 00:54:33,826 Number 15, to consider finding an option of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to 1069 00:54:33,885 --> 00:54:38,085 accept a low bid submitted for chlorine handling truck with knuckle boom crane. 1070 00:54:38,145 --> 00:54:42,226 The administration is requesting that this item be delayed by two weeks. 1071 00:54:42,375 --> 00:54:42,856 So moved. 1072 00:54:43,516 --> 00:54:44,895 Second to delay. 1073 00:54:45,735 --> 00:54:47,775 Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by... 1074 00:54:48,405 --> 00:54:51,856 Motion by Councilman Vallort, second by Councilman Fowler. 1075 00:54:53,805 --> 00:54:57,645 All right. Public hearing, community development item number 16, a resolution- 1076 00:54:57,645 --> 00:54:59,805 She can't speak on it because we haven't discussed it 1077 00:54:59,805 --> 00:55:03,016 ... a resolution to hold a public hearing and taking action on the cost of 1078 00:55:03,045 --> 00:55:06,016 demolition of 21 structures and other costs 1079 00:55:09,891 --> 00:55:11,182 A motion to close out. 1080 00:55:12,081 --> 00:55:12,922 A motion to open up. 1081 00:55:12,981 --> 00:55:14,361 A motion to open up the- 1082 00:55:15,621 --> 00:55:15,922 Second 1083 00:55:15,922 --> 00:55:20,391 ... motion by Councilman Belloit, second by Councilman Johnson. 1084 00:55:21,682 --> 00:55:26,302 Do we have anyone here that will be speaking on any of these structures that we 1085 00:55:26,331 --> 00:55:27,111 have tonight? 1086 00:55:31,281 --> 00:55:33,381 We did discuss this, Ms. Aaron. 1087 00:55:35,212 --> 00:55:35,361 Look- 1088 00:55:35,422 --> 00:55:36,201 We delayed it 1089 00:55:36,231 --> 00:55:37,161 ... at the properties. I couldn't find 1090 00:55:39,682 --> 00:55:39,802 them. 1091 00:55:39,861 --> 00:55:40,881 Do we have anyone? 1092 00:55:41,932 --> 00:55:42,141 Yes. 1093 00:55:42,291 --> 00:55:44,212 Do we have anyone that's here that's going to- 1094 00:55:44,962 --> 00:55:47,481 Someone called me and asked me whether the property 1095 00:55:49,462 --> 00:55:49,971 was going to be on there, and I- 1096 00:55:49,971 --> 00:55:51,172 Was the property on there? 1097 00:55:51,621 --> 00:55:54,441 Said nothing, because I couldn't- 1098 00:55:54,591 --> 00:55:54,591 It wasn't 1099 00:55:54,591 --> 00:55:55,251 ... find the publication, 1100 00:55:57,830 --> 00:56:00,321 so I had my team look for it, we couldn't find it. 1101 00:56:00,381 --> 00:56:01,011 So wherever I was- 1102 00:56:01,011 --> 00:56:06,291 We need to speak, so- Okay ... speaking out Okay, Mr. Lorenzo. Ms. 1103 00:56:06,441 --> 00:56:09,172 Davis ... sign up to speak, even if it's not just for them. 1104 00:56:09,771 --> 00:56:11,932 We would like, if it's okay with you, Mr. 1105 00:56:12,201 --> 00:56:17,781 Jordana, to do all of them since we have no one here to speak on them, 1106 00:56:18,531 --> 00:56:21,471 and since we have anyone to speak on them, just do- 1107 00:56:22,581 --> 00:56:22,971 All of them 1108 00:56:23,001 --> 00:56:23,691 ... all of them at once. 1109 00:56:24,351 --> 00:56:27,172 And vote on them. 1110 00:56:27,231 --> 00:56:29,481 If any other members don't object. 1111 00:56:29,541 --> 00:56:33,771 Because what we're doing is basically just, these structures have already been torn 1112 00:56:33,831 --> 00:56:35,661 down. We're just levying- 1113 00:56:35,721 --> 00:56:36,231 Look at the cost 1114 00:56:36,291 --> 00:56:37,371 ... the cost onto them. 1115 00:56:37,911 --> 00:56:39,351 Assessing the cost of the property. 1116 00:56:39,712 --> 00:56:40,041 Yes. 1117 00:56:40,821 --> 00:56:41,001 Yeah. 1118 00:56:43,851 --> 00:56:45,141 Basically- 1119 00:56:45,231 --> 00:56:47,420 Committee. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 1120 00:56:48,861 --> 00:56:49,041 You? 1121 00:56:55,041 --> 00:56:56,031 He's going to call them out. 1122 00:56:56,631 --> 00:56:56,932 Okay. 1123 00:56:57,321 --> 00:57:00,021 Right. Mr. Jordana, who was served, and who wasn't served? 1124 00:57:00,081 --> 00:57:01,041 You need to sound it out. 1125 00:57:01,432 --> 00:57:03,501 Yeah, he was going to call all the properties. 1126 00:57:03,501 --> 00:57:04,041 Okay. Go right ahead. 1127 00:57:05,511 --> 00:57:10,641 205 14th Street, for the authority to file a lien in the amount of 1128 00:57:10,672 --> 00:57:13,611 $16,854.41. 1129 00:57:16,881 --> 00:57:22,851 2213 Third Street, $10,802.22. 1130 00:57:24,261 --> 00:57:26,902 2626 Ninth Street, 1131 00:57:27,561 --> 00:57:30,501 $9,500.23. 1132 00:57:32,001 --> 00:57:37,552 613 Broadway Avenue, $8,173.71. 1133 00:57:38,871 --> 00:57:40,402 1013 Chaney Street, 1134 00:57:41,061 --> 00:57:46,701 $9,102.19. 2939 1135 00:57:46,761 --> 00:57:51,261 Cypress Street, $9,602.71. 1136 00:57:52,101 --> 00:57:57,652 1028 Dallas Avenue, $5,662.71. 1137 00:57:58,851 --> 00:58:03,321 5006 Eddie Williams Avenue, $33,441.23. 1138 00:58:05,422 --> 00:58:10,941 1316 Holly Street, $8,064.71. 1139 00:58:11,962 --> 00:58:13,341 2030 Houston Street, 1140 00:58:13,672 --> 00:58:19,161 $6,300.24. 1141 00:58:20,721 --> 00:58:26,212 2715 Jeannette Street, $11,204.24. 1142 00:58:27,111 --> 00:58:32,451 1527 11th Street, $10,074.04. 1143 00:58:33,531 --> 00:58:38,001 2809 Main Street, $19,085.34. 1144 00:58:40,552 --> 00:58:44,152 1947 Mason Street, $5,900.24. 1145 00:58:46,371 --> 00:58:52,131 3219 Monroe Street, $13,582.68. 1146 00:58:53,001 --> 00:58:57,471 2318 Orange Street, $26,882.11. 1147 00:58:59,271 --> 00:59:03,652 1817 Overton Street, $5,108.24. 1148 00:59:05,601 --> 00:59:10,221 1801 Princeton, $11,184.42. 1149 00:59:12,922 --> 00:59:18,891 1009 South Street, $9,779.74. 1150 00:59:19,971 --> 00:59:25,011 504 University Street, $9,256.24. 1151 00:59:26,061 --> 00:59:30,682 And 412 Woodard Street, $5,275.24. 1152 00:59:31,311 --> 00:59:32,001 Need a motion. 1153 00:59:32,451 --> 00:59:33,052 A motion. 1154 00:59:33,951 --> 00:59:34,281 Second. 1155 00:59:34,731 --> 00:59:35,631 Moved by Councilman Fowler. 1156 00:59:35,661 --> 00:59:36,291 Mr. Jordana? 1157 00:59:36,351 --> 00:59:42,201 Yeah. All these parties have been properly notified, served and notified, 1158 00:59:42,771 --> 00:59:47,601 with the exceptions of one that wasn't required for me to do any work on. 1159 00:59:48,141 --> 00:59:50,271 I think it was one, two, three. 1160 00:59:51,682 --> 00:59:52,071 Right? 1161 00:59:52,131 --> 00:59:52,402 Yeah. 1162 00:59:52,941 --> 00:59:53,932 It'd be number one- 1163 00:59:54,321 --> 00:59:56,991 Number one, number four, 1164 00:59:59,871 --> 01:00:02,902 number 15, number 16, 1165 01:00:04,191 --> 01:00:05,302 and number 21. 1166 01:00:05,571 --> 01:00:06,172 That's correct. 1167 01:00:06,411 --> 01:00:06,712 18. 1168 01:00:06,771 --> 01:00:08,152 And what's those for? 1169 01:00:08,721 --> 01:00:13,101 And number 18. Those did not require an absentee attorney. 1170 01:00:13,881 --> 01:00:16,641 Okay. Are those required absentee attorney? 1171 01:00:16,701 --> 01:00:18,802 Council, you want to turn down the bills? 1172 01:00:19,851 --> 01:00:21,141 With motion by Councilman 1173 01:00:23,511 --> 01:00:27,652 Fowler, and second by Councilman Belloit, a motion to 1174 01:00:29,481 --> 01:00:32,302 go back into closing. 1175 01:00:32,661 --> 01:00:33,741 Don't we vote on it? 1176 01:00:33,771 --> 01:00:35,481 He had to take a vote. Oh, I'm sorry. 1177 01:00:35,511 --> 01:00:36,291 We've got to vote. 1178 01:00:36,351 --> 01:00:37,191 Any discussion? 1179 01:00:38,962 --> 01:00:40,552 Public comments? All in favor? 1180 01:00:40,701 --> 01:00:41,781 Aye. 1181 01:00:41,871 --> 01:00:44,422 Any opposed? Motion carried. 1182 01:00:45,201 --> 01:00:46,041 Move to close. 1183 01:00:48,021 --> 01:00:53,391 Motion to close, and second. Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman 1184 01:00:53,451 --> 01:00:54,741 Belloit. Motion to close. 1185 01:00:55,311 --> 01:00:55,761 Move. 1186 01:00:55,851 --> 01:00:59,182 Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? 1187 01:00:59,331 --> 01:00:59,571 Aye. 1188 01:00:59,631 --> 01:01:02,121 Any opposed? Motion carried.