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We have a full document tonight, so please try to be concise and to the point if you are speaking, and if you wish to speak on any of the cases please make sure to fill out speakers and give it to the staff.

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So, first order of the business, we have the consideration of the meeting minutes from July 3.

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And as any of the members of the board, we should suggest operations to the meeting.

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The big minutes.

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No, no, any members of the public have any comments on the meeting.

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No, I can't get a motion on the minutes.

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Some of you. Any opposed?

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Thank you.

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Any opposed?

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We'll...

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All right.

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Maybe we'll adopt them.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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All opposed?

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All right. We'll adopt the middle.

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Next item on the calendar is the consent calendar.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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The focus started at one point on a couple of things too.

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First off, we'll welcome you after our August recess.

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Nice to see you moving again.

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I hope everyone had nice and August.

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We'll see a couple of new things tonight.

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We're trying to stuff out and build and everybody's telling me

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we'll go together and try to always look in and move and try to improve things.

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So you'll see a couple of things.

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First, the staff reports have a new template.

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We're trying out the different template, try to push some of the more

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of one of the important information in the early

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and of the discsolid making so you're divine,

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kind of a little more graphic, you know,

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that's one of the things.

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So we'll do that for a couple of a couple of your customers.

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Give us a feedback, things you learn,

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things you don't get them.

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We can ask something as big as we go.

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Let's go.

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First of all, the second thing is where I'm going to try

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to try a bit more of something you do out

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where snap, we'll do it in brief.

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Very, very, very, very many of my private problems

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with brief read the introduction in each case.

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So we'll which is basically saying,

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so here's your upxailing points in case here

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things that are to look at and stand for recognizing just and the recommendation and and

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conditions that we found here. That's about it. We're trying to focus the conversation so

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we don't know what possibly the important point one series project. So that's our new stuff.

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Now we're going to move on to our document. I'm just saying instead we have a certain

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It never might have been like a cent pounder and it would be the men and it would be a little bit stupid for this one.

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First item at number three, the AR-2026-010244, hold the start of this register for quest for an operation that makes 0-6 for sound.

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Fairfax speed.

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Down in the solar energy world, represent our way to the end.

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Item at number four, the AR-2026-0254, for a quest for an operation for an operation for an operation for an operation.

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I have to give this very grasp well, appropriate it, represent a body question.

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The right one.

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I don't know if it's fine.

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It is BR-26 that there are two weeks, six full of historic district.

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The question of alterations at 174 South East Street,

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I have to give this Richard and Sean Kathbard.

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And number six is DR-26 that there are two nine lead.

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Full of historic district, the question of alterations of signs and eight to zero seven.

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of the district's applicant at the Portland, on the Xander,

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but I'm there by Guns U Permits.

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And finally out of the seven is the R226-0304.

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Hope for a district request for a raise in the seven one nine,

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put street the applicant will win.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Do any members of the board?

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We should remove any of these items from the gallery.

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Yes.

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I'd like to remove item number six for age 20 self-colonist rate.

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And I would like to read number five.

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Can I turn to what's out this?

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Do I remember as of the public mystery movie,

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any items from the Muslim family?

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So, Mr. Khmaki, for the remainder of the items,

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I don't know if I can answer that.

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Yes.

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I need a motion of a second.

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And then I'm supposed to go.

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I want you to make some motion for our plane to be reminded of the items on the concept character.

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We can't really hear.

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It's very mulled and hear.

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All right.

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It'll be tough.

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Is there a microphone?

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You can't have microphones.

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We'll do a little bit of a bit.

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Or.

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That.

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I'm going to start.

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We'll start.

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We'll try to speak a little louder.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, seven different.

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We will work our best to speak louder so everyone can hear us.

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Bye.

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All right. Yep. I have a motion. We have a second on the second.

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right. All right. All right. All right.

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Okay. So we'll move on to number five. It's been removed from the consent calendar.

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Yeah.

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On the 26th, that's a year or two, eight, six, all of the start of district.

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First of all, raise in the 72th or south. These crews.

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The sound is really bad. What just happened?

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So literally what's just happened?

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Okay. We moved down to the consent calendar, which is the event from the Friday and the five and the six.

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I'm sorry, this is as best we can do we do not have, so which item was still that?

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I'm going to 3, 4, 7, or if I have been approved. So even on item 3, 4, 7, you can leave the

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item, your items have been approved. 5 and 6 are being considered right.

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Okay, again, item 5 is next to the line, item 5, we're going to 7, 4,

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out of these previous applications, the reports.

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Yes, before you start the minutes,

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the statements are basically through this.

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All right.

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So the applicants are Richard and John Katkarte,

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I think you guys can understand this.

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The proposed scope of work is to replace

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three iron columns on the 18 foot wide front porch

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with three six-by-eight painted cedar and wood

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columns on page two of the report.

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You'll see the site context is that this is third and

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on a row of seven homes, all set back from the street to allow for curb cuts and larger

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front yards. Page three of the four shows, the look of the wooden columns,

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and Page three also draws attention to the design standards for purchase that include

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the four-chish-to-be a broom grids, the store-ful-style of the structures,

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and four-chish-to-be made materials which are sympathetic to the building materials

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of the generally found in the historic district.

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page four has the report has the Asian and staff right,

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patient.

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Thank you.

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Can you please display your name on address for the record?

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I'm Sean Kaskart and our address is 724 South V-Stream.

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Thank you.

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So my, I hope this, I'll just,

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I have a comment on the size of the column.

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Could this, it seems very large for the,

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the basically room that is for the porch and the room that is holding. So my recommendation is to

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kind of look at the site of me to begin to see similar to what your neighbors have that you actually

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have pointed out. Well if you're looking at a inventory, it is out of proportion. We are doing eight inch

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wooden columns. It's about the same size as what the thing that it's trying to do. It can see

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like it could go around, but we decided not to rock, but we decided just to remove the iron

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post and put new wooden posts in, and then we're doing detailed holes on the top and the bottom.

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Yeah, I appreciate it. It's maybe a group of why not just maybe I can say comment because I

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not there to see the rendering industry to be. So maybe I can just say comment to work with

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staff to make sure that besides, it's similar to what the neighboring houses are, you know,

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not really like it is. You know, you know, it gives you perspective and this is the

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eight inches. So it's just a little more convenient.

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18 to a wide range. So if I get from any sort of visual idea of the proportions of it,

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does I agree to the random, the AI rendering is a little bit too creepy.

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to stick where I'm looking at the picture that shows your facade with 726 sounds read in 728 sounds.

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So the size and measure of the size of those columns and yours is in keeping with that size.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You like me?

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I make a motion to approve that they work with staff to confirm that the colon

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size is appropriately sized for the height of the porch.

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There are seconds.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Those in favor say aye.

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Which staff member do we work with?

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Thank you so much. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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District Court Special Operations and the Senate at 820 South Florida Street in Catholicism, Portland, I think, and I've heard this subject to interview, but I'd like to thank the committee for the good news.

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All right. So the post-operative work is to install an individual letter, 10 Mountain, Halo, a woman in sign above the building, 10 friends, which is the West Elevation on page 2 of the report.

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You will see the site context in this project is a reference building that encompasses the entire block of 800 South Columbus.

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And on H-3 of the report shows displacement and physical parents as a proposed signage.

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Page 3 also draws attention to the design standards and the signage that includes that styling materials are sympathetic to the age and architectural style of building.

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They do not attract from the architectural character of the search structures and the included lettering is appropriately scaled to the size of the sign.

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Page 3 of the report as the staff recommendation.

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Thank you.

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Can you please speak your name on address for the record?

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One in John Martell, 1261-8, mashed things away in Bristol, Virginia, and I am representing

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Portland and amaging for that's in the contract.

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Thank you.

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Would you like to make a presentation or just answer it to question?

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Answer to questions.

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I thought I was only two-step calendar.

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So, do you have any speakers or do you have any speakers or do you have any speakers?

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First of is taught on.

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Oh, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Absolutely.

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And I just thought that it would be 15,

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something I'm a street.

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It's quite a cross street.

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It's really, really, really.

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So staff clearly noted that they recommended approval.

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The application that was consistent with recent

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A-lodominated signs through the board.

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However, they didn't like specific examples.

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And it was impossible to determine

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and then the approvals represented similar signs

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in similar residential neighborhoods.

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The absence of that clarity by staff,

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I took the time to review the B.A.

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I was published meeting in January of the B.A.

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at 12 months in order to answer the questions.

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So in reviewing that, I released 20 B.A.

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our hearing stuff, I was able to clearly view

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that there were four proposals that came

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before the B.A.R. are seeking approval

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for an internally new B.A. in signs.

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There were several dead lengths in the published genus,

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there are a couple that was unable to determine if they were a late sign or not. However, what

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was clear in reviewing that is that all four requests were related to properties on or around

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King Street, within the King Street program, retail zone, and none of the proposal requests

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came from proper recent residential home area. So to be specific, the four proposals came from

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400 King Street, which is where the Alexandria hotel is,

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one from Burdo, Burdo, Burdo Bank, and one from South Burdo,

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one from 100 more to pit on the corner of King and Pit.

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Interestingly, the approval recommendations

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out by staff, with regard to the application from the back

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of the sign of 100 North and Pit, staff bounds

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that the proposed back of the sign was perturing.

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As it was located, quote, on a non-street-facing elevation,

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and was not adjacent to any residential properties.

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Let's have a thinking for a minute.

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But by publishing this, staff's own recommendation

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and that 100 North Pitch Street proposal

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set forth both a clear and objective rigged criterion

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that should strongly be considered by the VAR

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in all future requests for internally eliminated signs

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since by its own words,

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staff is using consistency with previous proposals

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as the standard of you all future applications. In this specific case, they are recommended

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approval of the eight 20 self-filmist standing on your bench and the end of your system

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in your activity. As eight 20 self-columnist's street proposed sign would be located on both

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a street facing elevation and will be adjacent to residential properties. As a result, we believe

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the board should consider viewing this application as any consistent with previous board

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programs. And only after a minute, so I feel like thank you for your time and have

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answered your questions. Thank you.

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Our next speaker is Janice Krickett.

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Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, Chair. I share members of the board and staff.

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I'm sure there's some busy people. Thanks for the afternoon to speak this evening.

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My name is Janice Krickett. I'm an I-2. I'm going to be the Dean South Columbia Street

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directly in the process of the end of the way of age 20 South Columbia Street.

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I hope that I'll be waiting for you.

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Review the materials I said to staff last week, receiving a petition, objecting to the signage as proposed. I sent an updated

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version this morning with a quick turnaround I was able to get 37 signatures of which only two are

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residents versus property owners, and do include all of the owners of properties in the required

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notification zone. I respectfully request that the bar denied the signage request as proposed. The

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hailingly illuminated sign is not typical in the old and historic district, including a long history.

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one of our busys to commercial corridors in the city.

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The city's own sign ordinance discourages this time of signage

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and imposes limits on nighttime illumination in residential zones.

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The entryway is in fact in a residential zone in a cross-to-street

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of eight homes.

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All of which have been relocated in the front of the house,

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facing South Columbus Street.

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Four applications and dining areas in the face of Columbus Street

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and of the four two homes have direct view of the entryway

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from this portion of their homes.

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When the trees are there, which is not in this picture,

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you will have full view and will not be blocked by flowers or poor leaves.

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The interview I have in the middle of the meeting has included private materials scrubly, fully

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illuminated during fall over night power. The existing signage, when the building was

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known as the framework, was blocked by uncertainty and programming from a character in the streetscape.

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I have been in additional documentation that includes photos that have south, the south,

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Washington side of the block, photos that include a spark wear, a friend use, a staff side,

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and a babysitter's work, not at which to have illuminated signs. They have lights that face

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down over this signage, but they do not project outward. Even the sign, they're for Jones,

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which is on the self-belongous sign is not illuminated. Again, thanks to the opportunity to speak

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to you this evening, numerous residents of the neighborhood are opposed to the proposed signage

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as submitted to you. It appears that the concern here is not with reasonable identification

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of the property, but with the unnecessary introduction of additional nine-time lighting

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into a rhetorical, residential streetscape. The proposed table illuminated forward signage would

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recently, I decided to talk for the atmosphere, and they

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had a lot of self-fulermission, which is located in

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the boundaries of the boldness of our district.

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There are many sign options of error available for

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programming, which should not outweigh the preservation standards

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and residential character that you all have been

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in trust and text on our behalf, thank you.

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And I'm also going to share an assign that my name

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roommate made, she's gay, and she had the benefit of that

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face is the front of the building.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right, nice to see you.

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Next speaker and Nancy Allen McCarthy and the folks of our

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massive network and I'll be really quick.

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But thank you for the evening.

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The opportunity is to be actually moved to eight or three

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degrees to be in the spring.

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So I'm on the border of greens on this.

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So I can see the work on the properties.

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The ability to sell this stuff,

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mostly.

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I think the addition of this table that will give me the

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design.

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We'll actually just collection that only have a residential

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neighborhood.

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But all down at it to be as a whole.

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And I like to post, it was like a hypoved medical.

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They say it's the lawyers of mine,

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they say not to use hypoved medical stuff.

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But just to imagine, across the street from my house,

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the building is allowed to put a banquet halo that's signed.

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I was like, what is to stop the home owners and the town homes

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you put a halo away from the numbers on their phones?

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I'm just using that as a hypoved medical type of medical

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to show me how we can change this question of a refugee

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be perfect. I urge you to vote against this, um, this is the question. Thank you. Thank you.

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Any other questions? All right. We'll combine the questions and the deliberation for the members

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to any one approach. Does any member would like to go first? Thank you. I'm really appreciate the

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organized community versus knowledge of the solidarity that you have in your opposition. Thank you for

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coming out tonight and for all of your decisions and your letter, I will say a completely

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of rate. This is a residential street, unlike King Street. And I think it's a bad

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precedent for signage on more residential streets. So I support your sentiments. And I guess

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I would just ask, Portland, is there an alternative signage proposition that you would consider?

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That's not a halo of it.

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We're in just three dimensional letters, non-livenated.

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I mean, I don't understand the residents concerned,

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but we're talking about a halo of it letter,

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which in this face of solid,

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it's just a light that shines around the letter.

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It doesn't shine out.

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It will not shine on anybody's property.

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We have not anybody's room.

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Better find it.

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So, but that seems to be a big concern of all these people that have come up with spoke that somehow, this is going to affect, they won't even,

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from the building is at, I don't know, 40, 50 feet from the road.

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So,

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it's not just 10, 15 feet.

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So, I mean, that's fine.

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If Courtland would prefer to have a lighted sign, we will accept a non-alarminated

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three-dimensional letter sign, but somebody mentioned two-snack lighting, with any type of lighting

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being acceptable to people here and to the board, or as a sign, just have to be non-alarminated

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three dimensional letters.

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I would say for if you need to add lighting like a

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stance or if I saw that, you actually have some ground lighting already there, so

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you might not have enough lighting, but that would be fine. That's just

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when the name is signed. Yeah, so not an internally illuminated sign.

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That's internal illumination would be okay. Or are you going to have a problem with

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that too? I think you should. I'm glad that there's been a bit of my

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Because I've seen it both.

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Like this next time, is that fighting?

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It could be included in the straightaway.

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So that's something that's more to be aware of.

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As long as it, it aligns with the other,

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like that we have this.

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You actually think.

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Okay.

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But I also want to make sure that would you all be opposed to?

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I think we hear what she said.

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Other businesses in the neighborhood

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the place, rective, above.

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So here's what I wanted.

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You would be okay if we did that.

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And we don't see that report.

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I'd like to see the report.

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Because I want to cover right.

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We're going to make it.

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I don't know.

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It's a long street.

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It's very bright street lights.

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It's all.

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And they have a blog in your area that looks like a hospital.

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It's so bright.

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It's nice to talk to you for hours and day.

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So the way following my plan,

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if there's going to be something at it,

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of the building. I personally would like to see specifically what it is and I have a very

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constant building. I just want to make sure I'm not going back and forth with multiple.

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So what's the reason that you want to add? It seems there is enough lighting there. Is that something

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better? What's that? I feel there would be better visibility. I feel that the entrance is set back

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from the road. I'll be honest with you. I've only been there in the daytime, so I don't know the lighting

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evening, but they just feel that because of the trees and and so forth, which I never

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not bloom all year long, but then it would just be better visibility and then hail like

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hail of illuminator letters or a classic book on the building. So I want to note that you know

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the stats of the neighbors, the community to consider not coming to any lighting. If you really feel

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that you need to add to the behavior that it's best to do.

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All right, so you're on that, I think I'm fine too.

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I've been, the Board of Making conditions

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can also be distributed to the students.

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People who want to.

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Yeah, thank you, one of the state.

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I appreciate the neighbors.

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So my lot of them.

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I appreciate that neighbors, speaking,

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and I'm such a unified fashion.

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And I too think that what is there now

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is appropriate enough in terms of lighting.

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It's actually very canceled signage that you have up there right now.

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So I'm in agreement with no lighting.

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And could I just for being the same?

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With who is next?

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Possibly added.

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I apologize for no change.

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Absolutely.

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Well, I will not do so much of a change to less internet.

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Sorry.

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I think a resident wants to see.

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We have, they're done with the public speaking. I'm sorry, I'm supposed to, so, I think I ran that.

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I would just encourage you. I mean, this would clearly a hot button issue.

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I don't understand.

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So, I would just encourage you all.

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Snoopy, you guys want me to be happy to be. How about that?

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I would just say that.

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Do what you're going to do with the proposal.

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Let me speak to them. I say what they want to do.

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And then we'll come back.

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I'll do it to you guys.

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And hopefully you can be administrative.

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So, we can say some problems.

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Board of the Board, if you'd like to set up deferral, that means you wouldn't come back to the board.

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If you'd give a bit more of it, like to say, a condition of approval, is that it requires the people that have figured out lines,

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so we can work with the appropriate applicants to do so.

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We have an important as a solution to the problem, but the problem you can do is act on.

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It can be either approved or not, set up deferral, and again, you can accept with the conditions.

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The conditions could be that it complies with the difference for the guidance.

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Mr. Coffee, if we deny it tonight, could they come back with a non-lighted financial

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quest for an administrative level?

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Yeah, that was a little bit one minute.

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And another question.

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Can they speak now?

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What's each other?

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And come back to us within a few minutes, as we move along the way.

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Now, we have to come back to another bit of another hearing.

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We can, if we don't get much, we'd like to have a question to borrow.

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They may do so, and it's more than acceptable to do so.

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We can't be a business tonight, we can't be alone talking to them.

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Okay, with a deferral, I don't want you to deny, and we can't make a change for a year.

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But that's what I heard you correctly.

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If you defer, they don't look back.

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on the public basis.

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That's fine.

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I don't problem with that, but did I actually

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directly to the reason I might have a patient?

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I can't do anything for the earnings program.

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So I used to ask if I'd have the patient,

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but I'm getting my phone.

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Right, but question.

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Can they just work like also denying the table biting,

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so if I didn't need this that has anymore being something?

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No, that is the day that.

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All right.

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We, we'll get the

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motion to accept the deferral.

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All the papers.

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I haven't been a second.

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Sorry.

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All the papers.

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All the papers.

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What will the papers be?

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All the papers.

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Sorry.

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Thank you.

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Okay, let's have a bit of an agenda tonight.

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It's under a bunch of things.

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And this is the landing of the first.

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This is kind of a debate.

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And, uh, the R-20, we're convinced that zero zero two two three,

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all of this sort of difficult cooperation.

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This is a decision.

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At four one four two three two.

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And the rest can one two three.

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Yeah.

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I think that we've seen a bit of a John line.

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All right.

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The proposed civil court is too full.

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is to demolish approximately 480 square feet of the masonry wall area with the 24th of

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our feet, and maybe there's been railing it with the car from the south end of the existing

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porch, as well as the construction of the south of the eastern border of the property and

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we've placed the existing single door on the side porch in time, and that's side lights

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the transfer. On page 2 of the report, I'll link it to the actual report by apologies.

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On page 2 of the report, you'll see the site context is a pre-standing brincom private

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alley to the south to propose addition and alterations will be visible from the right way.

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Page 3 of the report shows the proposed new addition photos on page 8 through 15.

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18 through 26 show these existing conditions and page 3 also draws attention to the design standards that include that it should be compatible with the start building and surroundings clearly distinguishable from the existing structure and you realize

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building materials from towns around the historic district.

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A four of the report has the HP staff recommendation.

484
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,980
Thank you. Can you please state your name and answer to the request?

485
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:17,240
Yes, it's a challenge. I'm going to put about 20 Sunrise Valley

486
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,940
3-100 invested for China. Park's tech representing the others.

487
00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:25,360
Thank you. Would you like to make a presentation or answer to questions?

488
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:32,660
I don't feel that I need to present the body of the work further than what staff is recommending

489
00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:41,400
for approval. I appreciate that. We would like to try to address the issue of the door on the

490
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:49,700
workshop, the least important, the expansion of that opening. That's something that is important

491
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:59,680
to the opening of the view from the interior space to the court guard and the guard and the

492
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:09,440
pool. And it is also something that tucked into the porch is not so visible. We'll be

493
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:19,680
all from the right away. So we'd like to try and convince the board to accept that as a part of

494
00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:25,600
Thank you. Do any members of the board have questions for young to get?

495
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,660
We'll move on to opening it to public. Do any other members of the public have questions or would you

496
00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:38,080
anticipate?

497
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:47,460
I hope we need to get integration for the board members. I have a question I'd like to see.

498
00:29:47,740 --> 00:29:53,340
Can we show the difference door versus the one that's proposed? So this is the interesting door

499
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:58,380
here on the bottom right, or left, and the post.

500
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,740
Thank you very much.

501
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:05,420
Thank you very much.

502
00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:06,140
Have I gone wrong?

503
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:06,680
Thank you.

504
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,000
You're going to sit down, sorry.

505
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,440
So maybe one of the federal agencies to page 17.

506
00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:17,320
Although if you keep going, there'll be a 2D portal on the next page.

507
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:23,360
So here is the red door on the right is the door in question.

508
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,720
I should, I'm sorry, don't make it a little bit.

509
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,740
I should clarify.

510
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:34,640
that the door does have an existing transparency. So what's being proposed is an expansion

511
00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,760
for Zanoi, not in high.

512
00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:45,990
You can see that door actually has a high rate of 19.

513
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:55,950
Yeah, you can see in the upper left-hand corner the door is partially in both of those images

514
00:30:55,950 --> 00:31:01,830
and then the lower left-hand corner is the proposed, it's possible to zoom in.

515
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:08,950
you can see that it's the existing door that the size of the door is proposed to remain the same.

516
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:16,050
What we're going to do is to add a side by there again. That's add a side by to the door and extend the

517
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:24,800
transient cross of the wiring that that's helping to open the view up from the interior to the

518
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,400
core door.

519
00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:36,960
Do I agree with staff recommendation, but if you want to bring more light,

520
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,540
I would recommend to put a side load and transfer some to them at the same moment, the same

521
00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:44,900
much as the rest of the sector.

522
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:51,980
That's something that I should be adding volumes to the policy.

523
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,880
It's absolutely subject to the part of the condition for problems and issues.

524
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,860
I've been to the side and we're using the plan, I commend you on the plan, I think

525
00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:12,220
with a really engaging addition.

526
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,540
But as largely, particularly this door is,

527
00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:18,300
I don't think it's visible from the public right away.

528
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:21,060
So I don't have a problem with this door.

529
00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:24,640
I don't know, Mrs. Swingson.

530
00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:27,240
I have a little bit of an echo to say to Thomas,

531
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,180
it's my colleague.

532
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:30,200
I don't have this door, it's very visible.

533
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:32,080
So I don't really have an issue with this door.

534
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:36,780
I agree with my colleague.

535
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,300
And in the way that you've noticed that door elsewhere?

536
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,600
Well, again, the idea is that the door would remain.

537
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,480
We're not changing the size of the door.

538
00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:49,400
It's simply adding a side-by-to-the-door,

539
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,220
which means that the transum is enlarged to the door of that library.

540
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,620
But we certainly could add volumes to those openings to be

541
00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:03,000
in keeping with the proportions of existing conditions.

542
00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:04,020
Thank you.

543
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,220
So I'll make a motion in everyone I grace to

544
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:12,780
by such a set design with the condition of having

545
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,940
my ins and my feet similar to the floor and the rest

546
00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:18,680
of that, the other is for that way.

547
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,400
They have been facing challenges.

548
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:25,500
Not sure about that, first we go to

549
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,160
here's a bunch of different volume patterns

550
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,680
already on this building,

551
00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:30,600
which volumes are you minding enough to do?

552
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,240
With the door, there's the one that's right next to it.

553
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,940
It's a one ball assembly,

554
00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:40,200
and the time so I'm going to decide that.

555
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,940
So that's with all of my children.

556
00:33:44,820 --> 00:33:45,920
Sure, that's a deal.

557
00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:48,440
It's not a deal right over me.

558
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,640
That's what you guys want to go.

559
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,860
That's fine.

560
00:33:52,790 --> 00:33:54,010
I have that guy.

561
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:54,970
Thank you.

562
00:33:56,350 --> 00:33:56,510
All right.

563
00:33:56,770 --> 00:33:58,070
Thank you.

564
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:58,750
Thank you.

565
00:34:01,290 --> 00:34:01,510
All right.

566
00:34:01,510 --> 00:34:01,690
All right.

567
00:34:01,690 --> 00:34:01,770
All right.

568
00:34:02,550 --> 00:34:02,910
All right.

569
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:03,730
I'm sorry.

570
00:34:04,990 --> 00:34:05,470
I'm sorry.

571
00:34:05,470 --> 00:34:05,730
I'm sorry.

572
00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:06,890
I'm sorry.

573
00:34:07,330 --> 00:34:07,490
I'm sorry.

574
00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:10,300
Thank you.

575
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,760
My graduation.

576
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Next item.

577
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:18,720
Okay.

578
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,380
Now, let's do this.

579
00:34:21,340 --> 00:34:21,720
Number eight.

580
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:22,200
Going to do this.

581
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,360
I'm going to do this.

582
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,260
I'm going to do this.

583
00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:24,780
Number 10.

584
00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:30,120
And it's part of grade 2026 that's zero zero.

585
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:30,580
What's six.

586
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,640
What's the grade?

587
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120
The best for operations in addition at 1010 or no.

588
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,060
of state's travel to the system,

589
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,980
for example, in the end of the fall and the end of the fall.

590
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,220
And we are to be 26 in the fashion,

591
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:44,380
there is here one, six, seven, for the practice.

592
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,560
So that's for the process of processing your scat collection,

593
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,940
10, 10, 10, or no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

594
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:49,820
for even the application, 10, and since then,

595
00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:51,520
we're going to have a Peter van for all our time.

596
00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:55,350
All right, to those of you who work as to demolish

597
00:34:55,350 --> 00:34:58,410
the existing rear edition and portion of the South wall,

598
00:34:58,610 --> 00:34:59,930
as well as construction of each.

599
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:14,260
For each story, and page two of the report shows the site context, which states that the proposed edition will be located on the south side of the existing structure, and will be wider and taller than the existing structure.

600
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:23,340
The addition will be visible from the sidewalk on the north side of our no-go, however, much of the elevation will be shielded from view by the existing building.

601
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:28,920
The alley behind the property is public, many of the nearby buildings and the block also has modern

602
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,880
addition before other modifications.

603
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:44,320
85 of the court shows the placement of the new addition and there are warm plans on pages 15

604
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:50,260
for 18 with elevations on pages 19 to 20 and the rendering there on 24 to 25.

605
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:59,480
H3 draw attention to the design standards that include that additions should respect the heritage of the disorder buildings, which they are attached.

606
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,100
Additions should remain subordinate to the historic structures.

607
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:10,580
The additions should serve as a part of a background element or echo the design features on the primary structure.

608
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,840
And that new word should be part of all the stakeholders.

609
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,480
And the ancient Xother Board has the ancient East Africa Foundation.

610
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,680
Thank you.

611
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,740
Thank you.

612
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Please pay your name on access for the record.

613
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,840
Peter Vanderpool, 800 or State University of Washington, D.C.

614
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:36,880
Thank you.

615
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:39,340
Would you like to give a presentation or a question?

616
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,880
I would give a thank you.

617
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,780
I'd love to have a look at the next.

618
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Bye.

619
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,900
Thank you.

620
00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:50,980
Do any members of the public wish to speak on this application?

621
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:02,940
Do any members of we over and have any questions for the application?

622
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,440
It's not the moment that I've written.

623
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,380
It's minute.

624
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,920
I'm ready to present it.

625
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:20,960
Any other comments on the board members?

626
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:26,870
All right, we'll want to, would you like to listen to the motion?

627
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:27,750
Yes.

628
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:32,850
I'd like to make a motion through that presentation.

629
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:34,750
I'll second.

630
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:37,590
All right.

631
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:37,830
Thank you.

632
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:39,350
Thank you.

633
00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:39,930
Thank you.

634
00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:42,470
This is something I would like to talk about.

635
00:37:43,630 --> 00:37:44,290
Draw some.

636
00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:45,470
Hi.

637
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:46,390
Especially.

638
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:47,330
No.

639
00:37:49,780 --> 00:37:49,920
Thank you.

640
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,280
Thank you.

641
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Hi.

642
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:53,460
And I'm supporting.

643
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,120
Hi.

644
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:54,300
Cognito Coneci, please.

645
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,320
Question.

646
00:37:58,580 --> 00:37:58,600
Question, Question.

647
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:00,360
Question.

648
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Question.

649
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,340
Question?

650
00:38:07,580 --> 00:38:08,520
Okay next item.

651
00:38:08,660 --> 00:38:08,840
The next item.

652
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:14,780
The R26 1, that 0.22.

653
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,100
3K, full of structure, question all for it.

654
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:19,680
We've had 1, 2 1, failure, failure, failure.

655
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:19,780
Yeah.

656
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,940
We've had the attributes of Mark Horty, but it's never been a part of the research.

657
00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:23,720
But that it's part of the

658
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:27,240
research, which I see.

659
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:32,600
All right, I'll just, yes, I'm here as the puts are in here for a second.

660
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,500
So just, yes.

661
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:38,540
I have a time to make this video.

662
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,860
Oh, it is the one.

663
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,240
That's all we do.

664
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:41,980
We do the important for this.

665
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:42,960
We can play another evening.

666
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:45,260
We have five.

667
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Five.

668
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:50,400
All right.

669
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,360
A little bit back around here.

670
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:56,920
The proposed couple of workers for a place he existing, which single group with a standing

671
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,740
theme about a group on page two of the report. You'll see that despite context for the pages,

672
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,520
they have brief standing house. That sits then into the way back on the lot that spans to

673
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:17,300
North and the East Street. Page three shows the group and on this board of existing rooms with

674
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:23,160
a sort of photograph. Page four draws attention to the design standards that stay in the original

675
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,120
working material is missing, not being determined.

676
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,700
Grouping of programs in the architectural style

677
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,980
was period of the building should be used.

678
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,740
Change more of the support has the HB staff recommendation.

679
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,260
And with that, we have a presentation.

680
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,300
Yep, and then it was loaded.

681
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:46,620
Both of these, I'm sorry.

682
00:39:48,220 --> 00:39:49,860
And when it went road on me.

683
00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:52,580
Okay, but you're doing that. I'm just interested in these myself.

684
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:54,660
Okay, so, good evening.

685
00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:57,200
I'm chair members of the B.R. My name is Justin Wilson.

686
00:39:57,660 --> 00:39:59,660
I am the Executive Director of New York Arts.

687
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:26,120
For address purposes, in this case, 5,400, October 3rd, vaccination. I also have a couple of addresses and I was angry as well. So it is great to be here to provide a brief presentation on our proposal and we are excited about the opportunity to continue to invest in this historic property. We have a half of the people in this room work for the NOPEA part team and I just want the moment to say that.

688
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,940
So how do you have a number of people here who can answer questions for you, we need to

689
00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:35,860
be in charge of that, including our preservation architect, who's been launched by a dollar

690
00:40:35,860 --> 00:40:36,720
from our claimancy.

691
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:37,380
It's not out there.

692
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,400
Also, from our claimancy, the fact that you have started a historic site manager at the Parliament

693
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,420
House, the National Assemblyman House, or one of our parks superintendent in the end of

694
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:45,580
the time.

695
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:53,940
So, we this year marks a half a century that we have had this property opening the public

696
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:58,820
interpreting the history in this property and continuing to invest in it.

697
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,140
In the past couple of years, we have invested about a million and a half dollars,

698
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,920
and we are prepared to do a similar number of the next two years as originally,

699
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:12,120
they would continue to invest in this important historic property, both for Alex and Andrea and

700
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:21,500
our region. Very quickly, as staff mentioned, the proposal is to replace the existing

701
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:30,600
on this facility with a new roof that is designed to assemble the historic metal roof that

702
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,380
is on this property for a significant portion of its history.

703
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:42,500
We are excited to have the support of the staff and we appreciate their support in our collaboration

704
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:46,640
as we work through this project over the last several months.

705
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560
This is the condition of the existing roof.

706
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:54,520
Unfortunately, this was a roof that was installed 20 years ago, and one of the reasons

707
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:01,560
that we are proposing to now replace it with a metal roof is a desire

708
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,740
to not have to go into a significant work on this property.

709
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:10,900
It is a very historic building, and we would like to not have to do the level

710
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:15,760
of disruption that is required in order to replace a roof

711
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:23,040
and disrupt the building. And so we believe that by returning to the historic metal roof,

712
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,180
the same standing seat roof that we are proposing here, that we will be able to avoid disruption,

713
00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:34,580
frequent disruptions on this property. We're proposing to do use a freedom grave as detailed

714
00:42:34,580 --> 00:42:41,280
in your staff report. And here's some examples, not in the city here, but here's some examples

715
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,420
of that we've in action and how it would look.

716
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,460
We drew, as I said earlier, inspiration from the history of disability and the history

717
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:55,680
of other buildings in the old and historic district, in the case we have two pictures here

718
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:04,100
that kind of show you at various points over the part of the process history of the knowing

719
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,820
a possible metal roof on this property.

720
00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:11,720
That's a two examples of that.

721
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:18,620
We've also drew inspiration from the city's presentation of other properties that are in the city's inventory, including the Murray Dick,

722
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:29,360
a faucet house, a property where the city recently installed a replacement of a metal roof on this facility.

723
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:43,860
So we, and obviously we believe over time, this, this routine will age appropriately and consistent with, again, the previous existence of a matter of room for on this building.

724
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:58,860
Finally, in addition to the staff's support and which we greatly appreciate, we have also consulted with the Virginia Department of Historic Resources, which holds the preservation of easement on this property and they have has noted in your staff report provided support.

725
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,300
and affirmation that this is consistent with the Department of Interior Standards and the

726
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:09,540
intention. So with that, as I said, we have a significant number of people here to answer

727
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:15,020
any questions that you might have. And we hope that you will be supportive of the significant

728
00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:18,960
effectiveness application for our lives. Thank you. Thank you.

729
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,520
I'm willing to members of the board have questions. All of these may have congratulations.

730
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,130
Thank you.

731
00:44:27,130 --> 00:44:27,570
Thank you.

732
00:44:28,750 --> 00:44:28,930
I'm sorry.

733
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:32,870
Thank you.

734
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:35,430
This is

735
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,720
for my name.

736
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,240
I'm just going to say your address.

737
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,280
I'm 2111 camera.

738
00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:48,920
I speak as a neighbor and there's a

739
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,620
I'm president of the Storko exam.

740
00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:53,680
It might not loud enough.

741
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,440
I'm telling you.

742
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,860
Did ever since I got into my pulmetologist,

743
00:44:59,020 --> 00:44:59,920
he's a focus on breathing.

744
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,540
You know, we're talking.

745
00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:10,760
I think that what I would say here is, I'm opposed to the battle road to the HAAF. I don't think

746
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:20,120
that two wrongs make a right. And I'm hoping that I, today, preach into the Guiler. I think that the fact

747
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,760
that there was a metal roof on at some point in its lifetime is really irrelevant, which

748
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:33,020
supposed to do is have the property and the roof and everything about it. It's just like

749
00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:40,000
it should have existed in 1752 when it was established. And I have a report which I think you've

750
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,120
seen by Willie Graham, a curator in the architecture, retired from colonial waves bird. And he

751
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:52,500
made some point that he had used the correct way, which would see it. And it was the correct thickness

752
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:56,260
and applied properly to can last every bit as long as a battle of growth.

753
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:02,160
You can debate with him, but he's really an expert on his subject, and it would argue

754
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,600
that the proof originally had to be wood, the one thing we know is it wouldn't be

755
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:07,920
metal.

756
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,820
Metal was more of a Victorian era wood, and wood is what would have been toned, wood either

757
00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:17,420
wood, that's your slate, certainly wouldn't be that.

758
00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:21,900
It's not an Irish cottage, it's slate, we wouldn't know when it would have been preserved.

759
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:31,640
So obviously, I think it's wood, and like for the Graham said, in this read of Ford, the affirmative question is,

760
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:39,420
what roof covering best serves the nationally significant 18th century house interpreted to the 1750s

761
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:44,760
and standing within one of the country's most important historic districts.

762
00:46:45,740 --> 00:46:50,080
And I think that's what you all have to focus on.

763
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,680
This is a tremendous property.

764
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,700
It's a probably the most important property

765
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,840
in the old historic District of the city of Alexandria.

766
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,100
And it had a wood roof.

767
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,560
And if you look at it, it's a four-sided roof.

768
00:47:04,780 --> 00:47:05,100
It's stunning.

769
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,260
And it's an extra city hall.

770
00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:11,340
It's a building where a general threat

771
00:47:11,340 --> 00:47:14,360
on the French Union, Barber the other colonies,

772
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,420
disperse to the American Washington,

773
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,720
was immediately into the British Army

774
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,320
and across a street of market squares

775
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,980
from the Washington and Trilth of Troops

776
00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:25,640
to the French Union in the moment.

777
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:28,540
So I'm just saying that it's iconic,

778
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,200
it should stay as it is, it should be wooded.

779
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,440
And the fact of them,

780
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,040
they're gonna have to be buried again,

781
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,400
maybe, in 20 years, and maybe in 30 years,

782
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,980
they do a job where they may not.

783
00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:45,600
I don't think it's a factor that should be considered by the board.

784
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:49,160
Thank you.

785
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,160
Any questions?

786
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,360
Any questions?

787
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,280
Thank you.

788
00:47:55,340 --> 00:47:57,520
Our next speaker is Yale Rock Rock.

789
00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:08,670
Today, thank you all members.

790
00:48:09,550 --> 00:48:11,350
If you, my name is Caleb on the side.

791
00:48:11,570 --> 00:48:12,890
I can feel the bad news rate.

792
00:48:14,610 --> 00:48:19,050
About two weeks ago, I was walking along North Lee's street, and I noticed

793
00:48:19,050 --> 00:48:27,130
to BIR, hosting, or application of the Carlisle House, and being sometimes volunteer gardener

794
00:48:27,130 --> 00:48:27,650
there.

795
00:48:27,850 --> 00:48:31,110
I thought, oh, well, they're going to do something with bicycling kind.

796
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:34,930
And I've sure it would be for staff and then it's very important.

797
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:37,990
But by the only, I looked at this.

798
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:44,630
Docket, and it was sort of a change in character of the group.

799
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:53,030
So, this is not appropriate. It's our landmark, high Georgian museum with an opportunity.

800
00:48:54,550 --> 00:49:04,590
And I think no dissolution is to preserve our natural and cultural heritage of this really surprised their point for a metal roof.

801
00:49:04,590 --> 00:49:12,370
So, turning into the staff report, this certificate of reporting, this standards that should

802
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:19,230
have been found are the 205, A, 2, A, as a report of all architectural design, modern

803
00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:32,950
style, and structure, and really architecture, details, include including a visual material in the

804
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:41,250
talks that the original material for this blue was wood. And for the record, just to adhere

805
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:47,710
it in the city's preservation ordinance, the BAR is instructed to apply its standards for a

806
00:49:47,710 --> 00:49:58,370
certificate of appropriate snug consistency with it to zone guidelines, which was stated in the

807
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:59,950
Thanks for playing me in this.

808
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:10,720
In the documentation, Martha Raymond National Park Service, retiree with 42-year in preservation, pointed out that the

809
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:17,220
application should be the secretary's standards for restoration. Restoration is the treatment that should be

810
00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:22,580
followed where the expressible is for the building to appear in its most significant time in

811
00:50:22,580 --> 00:50:25,780
history that period is a child's tenure.

812
00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:29,740
And out of the box, former city, the State Organization,

813
00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:33,720
architect, NIA, and America's points out that metal groups

814
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,040
were not available until the 19th century,

815
00:50:36,460 --> 00:50:39,600
and were not common here even until after the Civil War.

816
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:46,660
And my name and this spoken about Louis Williams-Gram's point.

817
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,740
And I think we need to address that,

818
00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:55,580
because the good news was that Parker would and the materials well

819
00:50:55,580 --> 00:51:00,040
asked 15 years of peace, and that experience of the museum spirit.

820
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,480
Finally, being slightly at the sabotage, it wasn't

821
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:11,580
replacing the time, because now, of course, as the information and advice

822
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:16,960
to do this operating correctly, I'm putting on with the truth.

823
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:24,800
And it's my belief that none of it could apply for grants from H.A.M. on the San Andreas Association.

824
00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:29,060
And from moves like friends and crowd out, the Mike Toussaint fundraising,

825
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,760
get helpful and listen to being appropriate with the correct moves.

826
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,500
Thanks, you're here three times out.

827
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Thank you.

828
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:37,820
Next speaker.

829
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:40,080
Our next speaker is all those who build groups.

830
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,680
You can actually, if you guys can be on the blue more,

831
00:51:55,220 --> 00:52:03,200
Yeah, I'm going to echo a lot. My name's Alden Philbrooke, I live at 133 North Fairfax Street, which

832
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,520
I happen to be the only residential neighbor of the Kyla house I look at every day from the bank

833
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:17,660
of San Diego. And I love his work motivations and feel that everybody should be great stewards

834
00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:23,580
of the city and the oldest work district. Carl has had just to be probably the most prominent

835
00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:30,120
building in the city for ample reasons. The age, of course, the builder and the founder of Carl

836
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:37,000
off family put it there at the founding of the city. The history that occurred there that my colleagues

837
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:43,120
that through. But also it's open to the public in a location that's very accessible. So they

838
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,800
get to come through, see what Alex Andrew is all about. First hand, they go up into the rooms

839
00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:54,080
and the staff shows and where the pile of family lived. And it's interpreted to 1753.

840
00:52:54,580 --> 00:53:02,960
A lot of other things happened in the building, building was built in 1753. I'm very concerned with

841
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:09,860
the two things, and I hope that one other thing, the Willie Graham report, you read thoroughly

842
00:53:09,860 --> 00:53:16,220
because it's a very important of us to have access to Willie. He's done work at the Bank

843
00:53:16,220 --> 00:53:24,520
of Alexandria, but also throughout the mid Atlantic. Concerned that the ordinance says that

844
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:32,500
if you can't find evidence of what the roof was, then you have to go back and use material.

845
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:39,140
that's appropriate for the style and for the period and the examples that you saw on the slide

846
00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:47,220
are our styles and periods but they're not a carlow house. Metal roofs were not available

847
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:55,380
back in 1753 although there was one in 1880 which is true. That's the first standboard map that

848
00:53:55,380 --> 00:54:01,560
shows evidence but that was 130 years after the house was born so

849
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:08,160
are put together, so the houses are historic at that point. And a stone, Jordan, had either

850
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,940
slay or wood for the size in the house that wouldn't have been that because of the investment

851
00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:20,760
in the house and slay was not available this far south at 1700s. So it pretty much was wood.

852
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:27,660
The willing ram report put its hands on a bowl shingle that was found in the house with

853
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:36,260
18th century nail holes. So there's there's some circumstantial evidence of wood. But in

854
00:54:36,260 --> 00:54:42,280
buried in his report is the fact that if the if the wood material is correct, a white cedar,

855
00:54:42,540 --> 00:54:47,620
if it's the right thickness and it's installed correctly with with underlayers of breathing,

856
00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:58,900
It will last 30, 40, 50 years or more, so it's not a reason to put wood on metal on a roof.

857
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:16,340
In this case. So I want to appeal to everybody here that would roof as appropriate. That's some de-most important house in Alexandria, and it should be interpreted as it was when I was born.

858
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,020
Thank you.

859
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Thank you.

860
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:19,520
Thank you.

861
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,820
Yes, we have a two more.

862
00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:23,120
Will you have a second, sir?

863
00:55:30,350 --> 00:55:37,770
Hi, I'm Wilton Kingston. I live in here in Alexandria for almost 50 years. I live at

864
00:55:37,770 --> 00:55:45,110
20-month in Jameson Avenue. I looked served on the part of the board for about 12 years

865
00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:52,650
representing Alexandria. So obviously I have a great interest in her loss and so out of the years.

866
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:58,770
I'm agnostic on this issue but I thought I had some information that might be useful to you.

867
00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:10,750
All in this fight corrected, there was a report that could out very extensive report in 1980 that looked at the renovation of the house, which took about six years.

868
00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:18,390
It took a huge amount of money. It cost at that time two and a half million dollars for the renovation.

869
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:22,530
But that ended today's dollars. That's about 14 million dollars.

870
00:56:22,530 --> 00:56:30,550
of them. They went through extensive work, detailed work, no person had had the roof was

871
00:56:30,550 --> 00:56:36,170
the ceiling. But it interesting, I'm going to report, I was pointing very little mentioned

872
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:45,170
of the roof. But matter was the hall. It was where the Grand Converse December. It also

873
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:51,990
really put the emphasis and report that the restoration had two purposes. One is to tell

874
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:59,790
The history of the House, and curiously they never mentioned the history after the Grand Congress

875
00:56:59,790 --> 00:57:04,370
and never talked about the Civil War, but then he hadn't.

876
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:05,990
That's the way to buzz it.

877
00:57:06,350 --> 00:57:12,330
And the second thing is to show the best restoration methods possible.

878
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:16,070
And that's shown in one of the worlds, the interpretable room,

879
00:57:16,070 --> 00:57:24,150
chose the 18th century construction techniques along with the, with the restoration.

880
00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:25,890
Yes.

881
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:37,710
In 2006, the roof was falling apart. I was on board. It was a devil to get money to work.

882
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:46,170
We got a save of America's treasures, Brandon, from the National Professors, thank you to Jim Moran.

883
00:57:47,650 --> 00:57:48,530
And then we had an issue.

884
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:56,130
If we put on seated ribs, by our Marshall did not want the wooden booth in this city.

885
00:57:56,890 --> 00:57:58,050
For obvious reasons.

886
00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:07,510
But here we start with, we want authenticity, so we went with the idea of a shingle,

887
00:58:09,490 --> 00:58:14,410
a seder shingle that was treated with a fire retardant companion with.

888
00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:19,890
Now we were told it would probably last 23 years, but it didn't.

889
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:23,370
Or it made me pretty close, but you can see where it is.

890
00:58:23,810 --> 00:58:24,870
It's not even been changed.

891
00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:30,970
My concern is that that building be protected and preserved.

892
00:58:32,830 --> 00:58:37,410
And so you have a balancing issue that this is going to have to do with.

893
00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:44,410
As far as the secretaries of guidelines, I'm going to lay them and looking at them or the

894
00:58:44,410 --> 00:58:44,790
experts.

895
00:58:45,110 --> 00:58:52,510
So I think I did read them and they said, you know, if you want to put electric items in there

896
00:58:52,510 --> 00:58:54,070
up, plumber, things like that.

897
00:58:54,070 --> 00:59:01,610
That's okay. And also get a compliance with code. So there you go.

898
00:59:02,110 --> 00:59:02,570
Thank you so much.

899
00:59:02,830 --> 00:59:05,550
So it's up to you all.

900
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:06,790
I want to speak to you.

901
00:59:07,290 --> 00:59:08,390
Thank you.

902
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:14,410
This was.

903
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:18,290
Good evening. My name is Bond Wade Kellyanne.

904
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:20,210
I'm president of the Altal Civic Association.

905
00:59:20,910 --> 00:59:23,070
I appreciate you're standing off for five minutes.

906
00:59:23,210 --> 00:59:24,030
Which I will not take.

907
00:59:24,210 --> 00:59:25,110
I don't think.

908
00:59:25,110 --> 00:59:30,490
Let me start off with what was on the Mount Vernon website.

909
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:37,590
Wood was the overwhelming church choice for Virginia roofs in Washington days, Savescara.

910
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:42,470
Washington purchased hundreds of thousands of singles for Mount Vernon during his lifetime,

911
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:48,970
most of them split from Cyprus trees cut down in the decimal spot of southern Virginia.

912
00:59:48,970 --> 00:59:53,050
So we start with the premise that this wouldn't have been wood.

913
00:59:53,410 --> 00:59:57,130
There could have been slaying in those days, you can probably not.

914
00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:59,730
My understanding is that slaying sometimes.

915
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:16,880
Out over here is shipbelaced and then sold, but I'm not aware of original slate ear in an old town. But that might have been, I think, Mr. Carl L had slate ear to be used it, because he was a wealthy person. He probably undoubtedly used to it.

916
01:00:17,660 --> 01:00:24,780
So what you're being asked to do is kind of overlook the issue of the period of significance in this case.

917
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:29,000
There's one period, the time Scarland also was built.

918
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,520
That is not the case with a Meridic Fossil House.

919
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:39,960
It was a deliberate choice to show that that was a living, a reading occupied house for hundreds of years.

920
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:42,560
Now, it was also non-mentioned.

921
01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:44,520
Was that the front on Prince Street?

922
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:46,780
We know to be in wood.

923
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:54,020
So even the significant part of the Meridic Fossil House exemplifies what was put on there before.

924
01:00:54,020 --> 01:00:59,760
And we have a longer period of significance, because of its continued remarkable scene.

925
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,460
I would also suggest that my friend Joseph and I should probably take a little trip around

926
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:12,800
because if I understand it correctly, gas resources now being replacing its wooden shingles.

927
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:20,740
And the H.A.F. building on the Wolf Street also recently replaced its roof with shingles,

928
01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:27,980
presumably with consultation and approval of staff at Swayton, they wanted that to go down.

929
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:38,480
Now, I think that the fire issue is, there's a crime on that, there's a fire station, two blocks away from the car last.

930
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,100
Shingles can be made flame retardant.

931
01:01:43,660 --> 01:01:47,620
Shingles can also be covered with good

932
01:01:47,620 --> 01:01:50,120
after they put metal onto the roof to make it a little bit safer.

933
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:54,420
Shingles can also be treated so that they last.

934
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,480
In fact, I'm sorry you may have heard Christine Roberts's

935
01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:00,620
had a medical emergency in her family.

936
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:03,220
It's not able to be here, but she has located

937
01:02:03,980 --> 01:02:07,140
single companies where they have a 50 year warranty.

938
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:16,140
I would suggest that the notion that there was a movie film tier is, okay, what are we going to do?

939
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:21,540
Let's, we wouldn't agree that maybe Tara should be maintained because it was a movie, but that's about it.

940
01:02:21,820 --> 01:02:27,400
If we jumped into the 21st century saying, oh, we could have met it because there was a movie film here.

941
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,500
We have forgotten everything we were ever supposed to learn about the story preservation.

942
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:38,780
So, I would urge you to, let's just keep on working and see what we can do with what we're

943
01:02:38,780 --> 01:02:39,520
from seeing this.

944
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:41,900
The hidden elephant here is cost.

945
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:43,720
You're not to consider that.

946
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,280
Thank you very much.

947
01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:46,060
Thank you.

948
01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:47,080
Thank you.

949
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:47,300
Thank you.

950
01:02:48,220 --> 01:02:48,840
Thank you.

951
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,320
We'll move to the integration of the members.

952
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,640
Anyone would like to go first.

953
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:18,120
If I can, and first of all, I think I have comments from the speakers of many of you who are good partners in volunteers in Carlyow House and shared a lot of this facility.

954
01:03:18,980 --> 01:03:25,900
My friend Yaban and I, I would be happy to go on a tour with you, but I can save you some time.

955
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,500
And provide a little bit of a visual tour of a number of properties.

956
01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:40,080
The individual and historic district with similar roofs from a similar time, hopefully by the BAR.

957
01:03:41,300 --> 01:03:48,100
Furthermore, I think it's important to note that we interpret multiple periods of significant

958
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:56,460
I think the suggestion that there is only one period of historic significance that we can

959
01:03:56,460 --> 01:04:02,500
interpret a car law house is not accurate. And I would quote, and I think we talked a little

960
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:11,580
bit about the Murray-Germann Posit, House, and Al Cox, a commission to report for OHA back in 2023.

961
01:04:12,740 --> 01:04:16,680
And I quote from that report, for a practical and economic reasons,

962
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,020
metal roofing has been installed on a majority structure for approximately 100 years.

963
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,680
The same amount of time the wood shingles were used here.

964
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:28,920
So the appearance of a standing seam metal roof has also acquired historic importance in its own

965
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,640
right as a character defining feature of the dwelling should be reinstalled in master material

966
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:39,960
appearance of a original as closely as possible. And so I think it's important to note that again

967
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,040
for a significant portion of the history of Karla House,

968
01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:47,080
we have had a roof of much akin to what we are proposing

969
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,080
to install.

970
01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:51,840
And I'm happy to answer any additional questions for boarder.

971
01:04:53,610 --> 01:04:54,330
Thank you.

972
01:04:59,570 --> 01:04:59,930
Is there no?

973
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:16,320
Thank you. Thank you all and we've been parted. Thank you, Mr. Wilson and even staff for your recommendations.

974
01:05:18,660 --> 01:05:29,200
I have been, when I first read about this, I wondered why slate was being proposed and I understand that that would have been an option.

975
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,780
way back when I was involved in the transaction on the 100 block of

976
01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:42,480
French Street that had played as its root, but it was still in the 1780s.

977
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,260
So I do know it's an option, and then the story is that it came in as

978
01:05:47,260 --> 01:05:52,000
balanced as I believe one of you mentioned, in a ship and that ship owner

979
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,080
with the slate on the roof, and it's still there to believe it or not.

980
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,220
So I guess this thing's happened.

981
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,240
I take it at your word, Mr. Chep and Dan,

982
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:08,500
and that this was very likely it would be from the get-go.

983
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,580
I am of the most disposition that this is a wonderful opportunity for you all

984
01:06:16,540 --> 01:06:19,580
to restore it to its original brand.

985
01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:26,160
This is this house, this home is really in rarefire air in Virginia and that's throughout our country

986
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:33,700
with its history. So many people can have the whole town speak of the parliament houses. So I'm

987
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:39,920
saying, wow, you know, we made it a little cold for you all the soil. I think the appropriate thing

988
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:48,600
to do is put the wood roof on this house, and that is how I will vote. Thank you. Thank you.

989
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:55,580
Thank you so much for your stewardship of this property, and I appreciate everything you're saying.

990
01:06:55,580 --> 01:07:07,180
I do think that Mr. Graham presents a compelling case for the lynch involved, as well as techniques that can be considered and applying them that might make the race last longer.

991
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:17,460
And as you know, it's not our job to assess costs or maintenance and our deliberations, but rather what is appropriate to the age and the significance of the building.

992
01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:25,240
given this is a museum that's largely interpreted from the 1750s and given the fact that we are

993
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:32,160
in Virginia and potentially the school standard of historic homes, including Mount Vernon,

994
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:38,820
just to keep miles down the road. I think if we want to be taken seriously as a historic destination

995
01:07:38,820 --> 01:07:45,180
in Virginia, we need to take the route for the car while I have seriously and assume the right

996
01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:56,500
Thank you, Marie. I too would prefer to see which she most replaced and properly done and that's all of it. Thank you, Mrs. Vincent.

997
01:07:57,860 --> 01:08:07,360
Thank you everyone for your speaking on this item and I really appreciate the work that has been done and information has been delighted to us for this.

998
01:08:08,620 --> 01:08:15,340
Typically, I am not one for saying that something Alexandria should be a sealed box,

999
01:08:15,340 --> 01:08:17,840
sealed museum box and nothing should ever change.

1000
01:08:18,620 --> 01:08:26,040
But on this particular item, I tend to mean with my colleagues that it would be appropriate,

1001
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:35,040
but maybe there are more modern installation methods that could help it last longer, which

1002
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,660
maybe more expensive upfront today,

1003
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:40,240
but actually wouldn't save you money in the long run,

1004
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:42,380
that you should explore as far as instructions

1005
01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:44,280
that can instant actually make that work last long.

1006
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,580
Thank you.

1007
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,320
And I hope the opinions on the rest of the members

1008
01:08:51,780 --> 01:08:55,200
want to admit it, but it's very important building.

1009
01:08:55,900 --> 01:09:00,560
He's very unique and I believe it's worth it.

1010
01:09:01,260 --> 01:09:02,980
We don't have to ask to their cost,

1011
01:09:02,980 --> 01:09:07,540
I'm sorry, it's not spending a little bit more on keeping two to their history of the building.

1012
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:13,880
So I think in the place where it wouldn't, but it wouldn't quite be done.

1013
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,020
And done property and so it does.

1014
01:09:17,740 --> 01:09:20,100
And we want to would like to do something.

1015
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,360
In fact,

1016
01:09:26,260 --> 01:09:28,360
we have a lot of emotional debates in the process.

1017
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:33,380
The proven condition of the conflict is looking in very early work.

1018
01:09:33,700 --> 01:09:36,880
I think we have a lot of it, but we have a lot of it.

1019
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,160
We have a lot of it.

1020
01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:38,840
We have a lot of it.

1021
01:09:38,900 --> 01:09:39,700
What's that?

1022
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:41,580
Because there's a lot of it.

1023
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:42,380
Yeah.

1024
01:09:42,620 --> 01:09:44,180
I think here in our unanimous.

1025
01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:45,480
From the board.

1026
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,580
I don't think there's any merit in requesting a deferral.

1027
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,020
I think we'll make a decision about whether to see going to film.

1028
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:51,500
Can we start?

1029
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,080
All right.

1030
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:59,960
make a motion. Our motion to improve with the condition of using the appropriate for it to keep it down.

1031
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:15,000
I'm saying it's proper period of 1732, with all the line to read that there can be, to make sure that it's safe and as it can be.

1032
01:10:16,180 --> 01:10:16,300
Second.

1033
01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:20,700
Madam Chair, can I clarify into the motion?

1034
01:10:21,380 --> 01:10:28,700
So, our request is to replace the room with a metal scene, which was recommended by staff.

1035
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:35,060
I think what I'm hearing is not a denial. I'm hearing an approval of a request that we're not making.

1036
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:41,560
So I want to be clear on what the motion is that it's been asked to hear and so.

1037
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:45,580
Another denial of changing the rules to the material of it.

1038
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,800
Well, so the over quest to just replace the roof in life is an administrative request.

1039
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,000
It's not the request that we have to take before the board tonight.

1040
01:10:56,780 --> 01:11:00,220
That's the problem, but I'm making motion to deny this application.

1041
01:11:02,250 --> 01:11:02,750
Second.

1042
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:10,910
This is not worth it.

1043
01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:13,790
Thank you.

1044
01:11:13,870 --> 01:11:15,130
This is not worth it.

1045
01:11:15,370 --> 01:11:15,950
We can do it.

1046
01:11:16,210 --> 01:11:16,670
Excuse me.

1047
01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:18,990
I'm falling paper.

1048
01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:20,170
Hi.

1049
01:11:24,250 --> 01:11:26,730
Thank you.

1050
01:11:27,630 --> 01:11:29,470
We'll take a bite in this way.

1051
01:11:29,470 --> 01:11:32,030
and bad at very point.

1052
01:11:37,870 --> 01:11:39,890
Thank you very much.

1053
01:11:43,550 --> 01:11:44,890
Thank you very much, thank you very much.

1054
01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:45,370
How long has it been?

1055
01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:48,230
I've been here for a couple of days.

1056
01:11:49,290 --> 01:11:51,830
You've been away from me for a couple of days.

1057
01:11:52,450 --> 01:11:52,990
You've been away from me for a couple of days.

1058
01:11:52,990 --> 01:12:00,710
Didn't I think much about that?

1059
01:16:29,900 --> 01:16:29,960
All right.

1060
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,080
I'm sorry, sorry.

1061
01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:44,490
I'm sorry.

1062
01:20:45,650 --> 01:20:47,850
I've listened to my point of view.

1063
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:49,710
I have a kind of work to return.

1064
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:51,590
This is nine is B.R.

1065
01:20:51,710 --> 01:20:52,310
I'm 26.

1066
01:20:53,410 --> 01:20:54,410
There's here at 27.

1067
01:20:54,710 --> 01:20:55,670
I'm a short and a short and a short and short.

1068
01:20:56,190 --> 01:20:58,630
First of all, I'm a three and three five and then with

1069
01:20:58,630 --> 01:20:59,810
Royal students, applicants,

1070
01:21:00,210 --> 01:21:00,970
fall into the atmosphere.

1071
01:21:04,890 --> 01:21:06,330
Yes, she was all too.

1072
01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:08,510
Good privacy screen on the second floor.

1073
01:21:08,510 --> 01:21:11,290
or your northeast elevation deck.

1074
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:16,150
On page two of the report, you can see the site context

1075
01:21:16,150 --> 01:21:18,970
is in the corner unit with residentials,

1076
01:21:18,970 --> 01:21:22,110
a budding goes to the south and the east of the center side.

1077
01:21:22,450 --> 01:21:24,390
The proposed crime signals will be visible

1078
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:26,950
for Princess Street in Northern Royal Street.

1079
01:21:27,290 --> 01:21:29,970
Page three of the report shows the placement

1080
01:21:29,970 --> 01:21:32,830
of the proposed screens, and there's more photos on page

1081
01:21:32,830 --> 01:21:35,110
of 13 and 14, including photos

1082
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:36,550
around the boundary itself.

1083
01:21:36,550 --> 01:21:44,150
Page 3 also draws attention to the design standards that include that the design should not hide

1084
01:21:44,150 --> 01:21:50,590
secure obscure or cause removal of the historic architectural elements, it should be made of

1085
01:21:50,590 --> 01:21:55,230
materials which are synthetic to the building material generally found in the historic district,

1086
01:21:56,090 --> 01:22:00,230
and it should generally maintain a predominant color in the building or the color of the

1087
01:22:06,610 --> 01:22:09,710
Thank you. Thank you in the state. You're name and name.

1088
01:22:10,010 --> 01:22:14,730
All of us. I'm working on the public three, three, five, not four years.

1089
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:20,170
Thank you. Would you like to make your presentation or just add a question?

1090
01:22:20,170 --> 01:22:22,610
I just want to do one of the presentation.

1091
01:22:23,670 --> 01:22:27,430
I sent in the deal that they want to saw the staff recommendation

1092
01:22:28,210 --> 01:22:30,110
three additional photos.

1093
01:22:30,710 --> 01:22:31,250
Did you see them?

1094
01:22:31,790 --> 01:22:34,370
Do you want me to like a gallery group into the same place?

1095
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:36,210
I can't believe it.

1096
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:37,410
It's reverse until the end of the year.

1097
01:22:38,250 --> 01:22:39,170
Sorry, I don't mind.

1098
01:22:39,450 --> 01:22:41,530
Whatever you're going to think, I think it may not sound like so.

1099
01:22:41,630 --> 01:22:41,750
So, okay.

1100
01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:48,750
The first photo is the photo of the year of our house.

1101
01:22:50,170 --> 01:22:56,370
And I just wanted to indicate that the architecture between the two homes there are very, very

1102
01:22:56,370 --> 01:23:04,790
similar, well, most identical. The second photo is our neighborhood adjacent neighbor who also has

1103
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:16,530
a privacy screen already in on her report on her dad. And then the third photo is a picture of what

1104
01:23:16,530 --> 01:23:25,430
we view from our deck, which is property that's on Princess Street, the orientation that we see

1105
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:34,350
to side of the house all the way down to where they're, where they're there list. And the view from

1106
01:23:34,350 --> 01:23:43,210
those windows actually looked onto our deck invited to our master bedroom. And we have a four

1107
01:23:43,210 --> 01:23:50,230
last panel door on the deck itself. So that's pretty, pretty over. So that's the, that was

1108
01:23:50,230 --> 01:23:58,030
what the original request was. And so my response was really to the staff concerns. The first

1109
01:23:58,030 --> 01:24:03,670
one was that the proposal was incompatible with the impact of capital's character of the building.

1110
01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:10,970
And then the second one is that the building is located at a gateway to the historic district,

1111
01:24:10,970 --> 01:24:13,030
which I never knew was really a station.

1112
01:24:14,330 --> 01:24:16,870
And so I'm not really sure what exactly I've had.

1113
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:21,150
But we came up in this photograph,

1114
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:24,350
you can see that the townhouse immediately next door,

1115
01:24:24,810 --> 01:24:27,270
which has a saying not to textually design burglar,

1116
01:24:28,010 --> 01:24:29,510
has an existing privacy screening

1117
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:31,430
appropriated into it, into it,

1118
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:32,810
deaf and heard of the structure.

1119
01:24:33,610 --> 01:24:35,570
And I understand that that screening

1120
01:24:36,090 --> 01:24:37,670
was a through-pilot-forwarded

1121
01:24:37,670 --> 01:24:44,990
of the development. This is particularly relevant because the proposed screening on my

1122
01:24:44,990 --> 01:24:51,350
public would serve essentially the same architectural and privacy function, the existing neighbouring

1123
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:56,810
example of demonstrating that the privacy screening can be incorporated into the structure

1124
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:58,070
what we're meeting.

1125
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:59,270
Compatible.

1126
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,580
And the architecture of the overall development.

1127
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:12,020
And so, you know, we've been concerned about the fact that we want to implement

1128
01:25:12,020 --> 01:25:24,760
or integrate into the existing architecture of the building. And we definitely feel like we're there with a need there for privacy. So we request that there's a positive news for us.

1129
01:25:27,860 --> 01:25:31,620
Do any members of the board have a question for the audience?

1130
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,640
We need to do a couple of things.

1131
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:35,740
We need to have a couple of things.

1132
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:37,180
Sure.

1133
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,620
Can we have the public speaker?

1134
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,680
I mean, I believe it's a good idea.

1135
01:25:42,020 --> 01:25:42,420
I don't know if we can.

1136
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,640
I don't know if we can.

1137
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:44,980
Yes, please.

1138
01:25:45,060 --> 01:25:46,440
Excuse me.

1139
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:47,160
Members of the board.

1140
01:25:47,420 --> 01:25:48,700
Stephen Flintski.

1141
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,980
One or four north west stream.

1142
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:56,220
I haven't met Mr. Leslie before, but I did want to say this is a project

1143
01:25:56,220 --> 01:25:58,440
that my office did about 10 years ago.

1144
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:04,200
There is nothing historic visible from this mad dad.

1145
01:26:04,620 --> 01:26:06,620
I see what Mr. Leslie do to me.

1146
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:08,140
And I respect it.

1147
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,040
This is something that we would have done

1148
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,800
had the money been there earlier on in another minute.

1149
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,080
Perform a critical opportunity to develop this.

1150
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,620
There's nothing sacred about this.

1151
01:26:21,180 --> 01:26:23,280
I think you should allow this.

1152
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:28,020
no offense at all very proud of these buildings. I'd like that they're the gateway to the

1153
01:26:28,020 --> 01:26:31,480
historic district, because there's a little historic sign across the street saying this is

1154
01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:36,120
the historic district, and there's a lot of informational line where you see that picture and you see

1155
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:40,440
these four houses that were developed. They're kind of unclined in their historic, you know,

1156
01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:45,720
we're not, I think it was a successful project, but we expected it to adapt over time like this,

1157
01:26:48,380 --> 01:26:49,340
Thank you.

1158
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,780
Thank you.

1159
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,580
Any other member of the public?

1160
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,720
We will wish to speak on this.

1161
01:26:56,740 --> 01:26:56,760
No.

1162
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,020
We'll open to the deliberation of the board members.

1163
01:27:00,940 --> 01:27:01,580
Any more?

1164
01:27:01,780 --> 01:27:02,720
Would you like to go first?

1165
01:27:06,940 --> 01:27:08,220
I agree with Mr. Coolinski.

1166
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,020
I think that screening on this property.

1167
01:27:11,540 --> 01:27:13,960
I think the appropriate I don't have an issue with the screening.

1168
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:25,700
I do have some concerns about the design of the screen, and I wonder if the applicants might consider doing something that's more similar to the next door neighbors that's more of a lattice design as opposed to the heavy slats.

1169
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:37,960
I feel like the slats are, it feels chunky and create a lot of extra lines that don't agree with the other lines, whereas the lattice might be more compatible also with the rest of the experiment.

1170
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,700
I mean, we're just going to go further by machine to.

1171
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:43,700
Thank you.

1172
01:27:43,940 --> 01:27:45,040
I want to go.

1173
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,080
Well, as I said, if you're totally fine with that,

1174
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,200
I'm totally fine with improving that.

1175
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:51,980
Thank you.

1176
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,180
Is this the same thing?

1177
01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:53,480
Yes.

1178
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,140
Okay.

1179
01:27:54,620 --> 01:27:55,320
Say here.

1180
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:56,820
Do you want to make that?

1181
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,260
I'm in the mission that we approve the certificate

1182
01:28:02,380 --> 01:28:07,560
with the stipulation that the lattice is designed to appear

1183
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,380
the same as the next one.

1184
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:11,040
Last.

1185
01:28:13,580 --> 01:28:13,820
Second.

1186
01:28:16,990 --> 01:28:18,710
So this is not a local, right?

1187
01:28:19,090 --> 01:28:20,130
So it's not a local.

1188
01:28:20,130 --> 01:28:20,550
It's a global.

1189
01:28:21,230 --> 01:28:22,310
All in favor.

1190
01:28:22,810 --> 01:28:22,910
Hi.

1191
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:23,590
Hi.

1192
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:24,190
Any opposed?

1193
01:28:24,910 --> 01:28:25,110
No.

1194
01:28:25,930 --> 01:28:26,370
Thank you.

1195
01:28:27,170 --> 01:28:27,190
Right.

1196
01:28:30,410 --> 01:28:32,810
We need to talk to you.

1197
01:28:32,990 --> 01:28:33,090
Thanks.

1198
01:28:33,530 --> 01:28:34,230
I don't know.

1199
01:28:34,970 --> 01:28:35,770
What do you think?

1200
01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:36,590
Yes.

1201
01:28:37,630 --> 01:28:38,130
I'm going to.

1202
01:28:38,690 --> 01:28:43,450
It's been around 20 to 26, there's a particular, there's a particular,

1203
01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:45,790
a historic district, that's the course of demolition,

1204
01:28:45,890 --> 01:28:47,770
a capitalization in 213 South Africa,

1205
01:28:47,970 --> 01:28:48,190
actually.

1206
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:49,630
But I think it's a job.

1207
01:28:49,870 --> 01:28:51,050
It's going to be over.

1208
01:28:51,130 --> 01:28:52,610
We'll send it by John for the whole Colony.

1209
01:28:53,090 --> 01:28:53,850
It's going to be tight.

1210
01:28:54,230 --> 01:28:57,390
So there's going to be two hundred and twenty eights,

1211
01:28:57,470 --> 01:28:59,310
where being of the west or rear,

1212
01:28:59,370 --> 01:29:02,590
basically law and removal of the existing course,

1213
01:29:02,590 --> 01:29:05,230
screening and brain and guard around this project

1214
01:29:05,230 --> 01:29:06,730
in demolition only.

1215
01:29:06,730 --> 01:29:21,910
On page 2 of the report, you'll see the site context from this project as a standalone recall with a private alley to the south pages 11 and 16 of the reports shows the rear section to be encapsulated.

1216
01:29:22,490 --> 01:29:25,490
Page 3 of the report walks you through the demolition.

1217
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:30,830
right here, okay, for the report has the exact recommendation.

1218
01:29:32,210 --> 01:29:32,390
Yep.

1219
01:29:33,550 --> 01:29:36,630
Yes, I think in this, say your name, I'd like to answer this, whatever.

1220
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:41,450
John and the whole fact, this is totally over the last few days.

1221
01:29:43,470 --> 01:29:48,150
I haven't answered questions, but I think it's really straightforward.

1222
01:29:48,670 --> 01:29:51,250
You know, for yourself, I don't know what you're going to do.

1223
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:53,370
Any questions about the board members?

1224
01:29:53,370 --> 01:29:58,890
You know, it would be having any members of the public, but would like to speak on it.

1225
01:30:00,140 --> 01:30:04,760
Okay, you'll open to the integration, or are you even going to make a motion?

1226
01:30:05,220 --> 01:30:14,580
I don't think the motion for approval. I'm sorry, I'm not yet. I'd like the motion for approval, which there are recommendations.

1227
01:30:15,340 --> 01:30:16,680
Okay, you and do me this.

1228
01:30:17,180 --> 01:30:17,380
Roll.

1229
01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:19,580
Mr. Roll, go ahead and do me the second.

1230
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:20,020
Second.

1231
01:30:25,230 --> 01:30:25,570
Aye.

1232
01:30:26,530 --> 01:30:26,810
Special.

1233
01:30:27,490 --> 01:30:27,790
Aye.

1234
01:30:29,370 --> 01:30:29,630
Aye.

1235
01:30:31,670 --> 01:30:32,290
Thank you.

1236
01:30:32,290 --> 01:30:32,610
Thank you.

1237
01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:33,270
Thank you, congratulations.

1238
01:30:34,450 --> 01:30:34,730
Thank you.

1239
01:30:34,930 --> 01:30:35,330
Thank you.

1240
01:30:36,690 --> 01:30:38,070
President, I have about 15.

1241
01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:39,070
It's six seasons.

1242
01:30:40,050 --> 01:30:42,190
We are in 26th of the action.

1243
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:43,770
302.

1244
01:30:44,090 --> 01:30:44,110
18.

1245
01:30:44,490 --> 01:30:45,130
Through a district.

1246
01:30:45,470 --> 01:30:45,770
We're all.

1247
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:46,170
Pression.

1248
01:30:47,070 --> 01:30:48,610
At 8.117.

1249
01:30:48,710 --> 01:30:48,990
Columbus.

1250
01:30:49,370 --> 01:30:49,870
We have it.

1251
01:30:50,030 --> 01:30:50,310
It's a gentleman.

1252
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:51,530
We are.

1253
01:30:52,110 --> 01:30:52,350
We are.

1254
01:30:53,570 --> 01:30:54,010
We are.

1255
01:30:54,190 --> 01:30:54,730
We are.

1256
01:30:55,570 --> 01:30:56,070
We are.

1257
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:56,630
We are.

1258
01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:57,730
We are.

1259
01:30:59,990 --> 01:31:00,990
We are.

1260
01:31:00,990 --> 01:31:06,090
information and in one of the stuff that we have a series of down here is Jennifer Berger,

1261
01:31:06,230 --> 01:31:08,550
instead of like that we would like to.

1262
01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:08,710
Hi.

1263
01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:09,290
Good evening.

1264
01:31:09,710 --> 01:31:10,730
I'm Diane Greitha.

1265
01:31:10,930 --> 01:31:12,110
It's just one question.

1266
01:31:12,110 --> 01:31:12,590
Oh, one question.

1267
01:31:12,970 --> 01:31:13,250
Thank you.

1268
01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:14,710
Really fine.

1269
01:31:15,250 --> 01:31:19,390
The most local work is to demolish a hundred square feet of a group area on the front east

1270
01:31:19,390 --> 01:31:24,330
elevation and then to construct a normal windows on the front east elevation.

1271
01:31:24,590 --> 01:31:29,730
On page two of the report you'll see that the site context for this project is part of a

1272
01:31:29,730 --> 01:31:32,330
from 8 town homes, but a public alley

1273
01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:33,830
to the west and southern side.

1274
01:31:34,130 --> 01:31:36,170
The proposed normalers will be visible

1275
01:31:36,170 --> 01:31:38,110
from South Columbia Street and Jefferson.

1276
01:31:39,410 --> 01:31:44,770
I'm paid for, I'm paid for shows

1277
01:31:44,770 --> 01:31:47,090
to be late in the month of the dormers.

1278
01:31:48,130 --> 01:31:51,270
And then we draw attention to the design standards

1279
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:54,290
that say the style of scale of the dormers should be appropriate

1280
01:31:54,290 --> 01:31:57,310
to the art circle style, dormers should not be taller

1281
01:31:57,310 --> 01:32:02,290
than the existing red line of the route, dormant sachet should be compatible with the other

1282
01:32:02,290 --> 01:32:07,350
sachet than the train on the structure. New dormant should be censored on or between

1283
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:13,570
existing windows and then lastly dormant side walls, maybe covered, matched the existing

1284
01:32:13,570 --> 01:32:19,650
group material that is with slate profile. And then page 5 has the staff recommendation.

1285
01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:37,750
Hi, good evening, I'm Diane Breva, and I'm at 3303 on Day of Landing, and the client would greatly appreciate, she has a large space up there in the attic and wants to utilize it and have egress as well.

1286
01:32:38,270 --> 01:32:46,650
So this would be a perfect fit, sort of mirroring some of the architectural dormers on the street there.

1287
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:50,790
And we'll follow the staff recommendations.

1288
01:32:52,730 --> 01:32:53,890
Thank you.

1289
01:32:54,090 --> 01:32:56,850
Do any more members have questions from the applicant?

1290
01:32:58,410 --> 01:32:58,430
No.

1291
01:32:58,750 --> 01:33:02,530
Any public members who would like to speak?

1292
01:33:06,150 --> 01:33:07,250
We'll open for deliberation.

1293
01:33:07,650 --> 01:33:11,710
I think four members do you have any comments or want to make a decision?

1294
01:33:12,270 --> 01:33:14,370
Make a motion to approve for a staff recommendation.

1295
01:33:14,370 --> 01:33:15,370
Thank you.

1296
01:33:17,090 --> 01:33:17,210
Second.

1297
01:33:18,670 --> 01:33:18,770
Second.

1298
01:33:19,810 --> 01:33:21,270
These are the law棉.

1299
01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:23,670
This is a law棉.

1300
01:33:24,450 --> 01:33:24,570
It's a law棉.

1301
01:33:24,570 --> 01:33:24,850
That's impossible.

1302
01:33:25,870 --> 01:33:26,590
I'm a center.

1303
01:33:27,410 --> 01:33:29,830
I'm a volunteer.

1304
01:33:30,190 --> 01:33:30,910
I'm a volunteer.

1305
01:33:31,730 --> 01:33:31,750
I'm a volunteer.

1306
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:31,990
Thank you.

1307
01:33:37,130 --> 01:33:37,510
I'm a volunteer.

1308
01:33:37,610 --> 01:33:38,650
We're leaving very long.

1309
01:33:39,070 --> 01:33:44,630
I'm going to suggest to board that I am 17 in 18.

1310
01:33:44,630 --> 01:33:48,510
19 and 20, we discussed this together because they are, um,

1311
01:33:49,330 --> 01:33:50,570
obviously they're actually each other.

1312
01:33:50,990 --> 01:33:52,070
They work the same time.

1313
01:33:52,610 --> 01:33:54,010
All those things I'm just suggesting for them,

1314
01:33:54,050 --> 01:33:55,330
it's sort of a signal, uh,

1315
01:33:55,670 --> 01:33:57,250
grabbing them more, uh,

1316
01:33:58,230 --> 01:33:59,030
discussing them together,

1317
01:33:59,530 --> 01:34:01,870
and then we will need to do a separate boat for each one,

1318
01:34:02,110 --> 01:34:03,390
um, if the board was gave it up.

1319
01:34:04,610 --> 01:34:04,750
Yes.

1320
01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:05,030
Okay.

1321
01:34:05,370 --> 01:34:09,150
So maybe they're all in,

1322
01:34:10,530 --> 01:34:13,990
AST at 0,0, 2009, 3, Goldstone District.

1323
01:34:14,810 --> 01:34:15,570
Fish episode emba Анд animal transition

1324
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:17,410
of 500 red trunkcr fosse history,

1325
01:34:17,570 --> 01:34:18,110
like Republican itt,

1326
01:34:18,170 --> 01:34:20,070
means it can be worked as a concessiblebridge

1327
01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:23,250
circular to Animal Spear characteristics. Lieutenant,

1328
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:27,110
that's a pjar Abrokane26 to 0,0 to 900 to be

1329
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:28,350
postcribed, Virginia Bush

1330
01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:30,330
reported than Bush in Capz gym asgiri

1331
01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:32,110
section, interactive.

1332
01:34:32,110 --> 01:34:33,690
in St. Louis University of Denmark on CX PC.

1333
01:34:33,730 --> 01:34:35,350
What was that about, Steve and Skyrake said?

1334
01:34:35,950 --> 01:34:37,090
interactive.

1335
01:34:36,230 --> 01:34:39,670
In electron 19-20, the RX-2026 Stars, the Zerv here

1336
01:34:39,670 --> 01:34:40,390
was yelling at the board.

1337
01:34:40,750 --> 01:34:43,130
The question of operations in addition

1338
01:34:43,130 --> 01:34:44,230
is the investing in a contract on the Penguin橋

1339
01:34:44,230 --> 01:34:46,910
and screen applications found on the bottom of the sheet.

1340
01:35:01,110 --> 01:35:08,070
And I should have asked, is the amount that I don't able to sit right at least for all of our public together in a person.

1341
01:35:10,170 --> 01:35:19,150
So the proposed local work is to demolish the portions of the rear of the structure and the roof of the building for the construction of a new equipment.

1342
01:35:19,770 --> 01:35:25,370
It's also structured edition on the third floor to the existing building and the three, four,

1343
01:35:25,410 --> 01:35:30,970
addition to the rear of the existing building. On the H2 of the report, you'll see the site

1344
01:35:30,970 --> 01:35:37,350
context for this project is a former personal. Those are the dueplex originally in 1926.

1345
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:41,410
All three sides, the building is a full-grown public right away.

1346
01:35:41,410 --> 01:35:52,870
pages before and by show some sort of renderings, and then page two things, also draws attention

1347
01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:58,630
to the design standards, but both go ahead and wash Washington's strait. They're two separate

1348
01:35:58,630 --> 01:36:03,970
standards. Let's get together. I'll just read some of them that say addition should remain

1349
01:36:03,970 --> 01:36:09,270
some warning to them to the smart structure. New works should be compatible but distinguishable.

1350
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:15,990
material should be a should complement the primary building in general the group or should reflect

1351
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:22,090
the group forms expressed along with block space and lastly the design of the addition of the

1352
01:36:22,090 --> 01:36:27,310
and the two-day existing building shall and complementary to the sort of buildings bound on Washington

1353
01:36:27,310 --> 01:36:27,750
It's free.

1354
01:36:28,330 --> 01:36:30,630
They should have known that the forum has a sound presentation.

1355
01:36:33,170 --> 01:36:34,050
Thank you.

1356
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:35,910
Would you like to give me a second?

1357
01:36:36,110 --> 01:36:36,330
Sure.

1358
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:36,750
Quick.

1359
01:36:36,890 --> 01:36:37,550
Stephen Plinsky.

1360
01:36:39,230 --> 01:36:41,170
Four or four more of the West Street.

1361
01:36:41,310 --> 01:36:43,010
I just like hearing Bill say.

1362
01:36:43,330 --> 01:36:44,450
My name is David Taylor.

1363
01:36:45,170 --> 01:36:45,270
Yeah, I'm saying.

1364
01:36:46,050 --> 01:36:48,090
I think the whole reason why I'm going to be.

1365
01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:49,730
Just.

1366
01:36:50,250 --> 01:36:50,490
Just.

1367
01:36:50,490 --> 01:36:50,630
Group.

1368
01:36:51,110 --> 01:36:51,550
We're.

1369
01:36:51,550 --> 01:36:52,730
When clients are taking the building.

1370
01:36:53,090 --> 01:36:55,930
And it's currently used as commercial offices.

1371
01:36:55,930 --> 01:37:00,530
And we're going to try to convert back to the two original residences that it was.

1372
01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:06,170
And then too, we're keeping everything as carefully as possible, along Washington's street,

1373
01:37:06,170 --> 01:37:08,830
of the Rebecca Washington Street design guidelines.

1374
01:37:09,110 --> 01:37:12,970
And we did everything, we did everything for the differential to the original building and

1375
01:37:12,970 --> 01:37:14,830
the Washington Street and our design.

1376
01:37:15,610 --> 01:37:17,330
It's stepped out on the bag.

1377
01:37:18,210 --> 01:37:19,290
You can see it.

1378
01:37:19,290 --> 01:37:27,650
I think the report is that report very, very, very nicely presented all that and my

1379
01:37:27,650 --> 01:37:32,730
confidence that we're going to come up to new staff report format because it really is a big

1380
01:37:32,730 --> 01:37:33,330
big improvement.

1381
01:37:33,870 --> 01:37:38,650
All staff reports you find, but this is really helps you look at that six, so I'm here

1382
01:37:38,650 --> 01:37:40,190
to answer any questions.

1383
01:37:43,470 --> 01:37:47,970
You do any member or membering the questions for the answer again?

1384
01:37:51,050 --> 01:37:53,990
Any public members would like to speak on this application?

1385
01:37:56,900 --> 01:38:01,840
Okay. We'll close the public portion and open to the integration.

1386
01:38:04,220 --> 01:38:06,380
Ms. Brad, we'd like to.

1387
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:17,480
So, I think this is a nicely expressed building, I've been curious to know what you were going to do since we approved the demolition of the garage behind.

1388
01:38:18,020 --> 01:38:28,100
So I'd like to see this come to light and I think that's the terracing and the stepping down and the variation materials is very attractive.

1389
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,160
I have one concern and it's the Chinese.

1390
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:44,860
My first concern about the chimneys was that they're not in the same spot that I recognize after driving by that they're not in the same spot in the original building, which is a little weird, but it is an asymmetrical front.

1391
01:38:46,060 --> 01:38:59,820
But clearly, I assume this is because the chimneys had to be raised and they feel very prominent to me now as these sort of silos and previously they were connected to the building.

1392
01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:05,460
And now they're just sort of shooting up in the air without kind of any connection to the actual building.

1393
01:39:07,140 --> 01:39:11,440
And I don't have that being absorbed, but I would love to see a different solution.

1394
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:18,820
The difference solution is to remove the chimney, so it's the only way to do it and still have functioning in it.

1395
01:39:18,980 --> 01:39:21,860
And is that because you want them to be whipped burning?

1396
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,720
Does it have to be offensive that way if it's a gas?

1397
01:39:26,540 --> 01:39:36,080
It really comes down to, comes down to the manning factor, specifications, and if it's an open gas,

1398
01:39:36,660 --> 01:39:43,120
thing it needs for chili and for clearance to feed above anything within 10 feet.

1399
01:39:43,700 --> 01:39:51,720
But if it's, but if it's a seal, that, that, that, that, that, you can, you can, you can do different things like a bring a event.

1400
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:57,360
event, event, out to side, but I think that would be significantly worse than raising these

1401
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,960
chimneys up to 3 or 4 feet per third to go now.

1402
01:40:01,710 --> 01:40:08,210
I mean, I like the prominence of a chimney, so I'm not in odds with it,

1403
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:16,700
but there is no good, easy solution, just a little more.

1404
01:40:16,780 --> 01:40:18,320
Thank you.

1405
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:19,320
Thank you.

1406
01:40:20,020 --> 01:40:20,680
That's a fantastic.

1407
01:40:21,460 --> 01:40:21,820
Sure.

1408
01:40:23,740 --> 01:40:29,460
I agree with the Chinese solution, but I also understand concern, I guess.

1409
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:36,580
Typically, in Alexandria, we do have a mystery of having nicely designed shemies and maybe there's a little more

1410
01:40:37,420 --> 01:40:42,580
design aesthetic applied to the shemies, there's some nice brick work for some decorative brick,

1411
01:40:42,580 --> 01:40:49,800
allowing us to make it feel like it's a statement and not just the functional shemies back up on the sides.

1412
01:40:50,580 --> 01:40:51,820
As a possible option.

1413
01:40:52,420 --> 01:40:57,100
And we could embellish the top of the work, we weren't going to do anything below.

1414
01:40:57,480 --> 01:40:57,860
You could do it.

1415
01:40:57,860 --> 01:40:58,220
You could do it.

1416
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:03,720
I mean, typically when I think of the nice, rounded families, they were like, you know, the top

1417
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:05,660
or maybe a few people.

1418
01:41:06,140 --> 01:41:09,520
That they're actually, we'd be glad to consider, you know,

1419
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,880
with staff or approval and, you know, kind of a,

1420
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:16,000
a more articulated top of the children.

1421
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:16,500
Yeah.

1422
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:22,640
I hope that will help then become more of what we come to love about some of the

1423
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:23,460
Alexander Chimney.

1424
01:41:23,740 --> 01:41:26,020
They are actually statement pieces of the house.

1425
01:41:27,140 --> 01:41:28,900
Other than that, I think the design is good.

1426
01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:30,380
It was a great design.

1427
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:35,660
I really appreciate the way it steps back and it steps down as it goes further to the

1428
01:41:35,660 --> 01:41:38,380
rear and that doesn't really impose itself on Washington.

1429
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:40,800
Thank you.

1430
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:50,920
I'm looking at, okay, I think you've done a wonderful job and I'm very excited to see

1431
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:57,840
that this has been converted back to residences and I've been asking myself why we don't

1432
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:06,800
see more of this in the city of Alexandria because we have vacant commercial spaces and we have

1433
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:13,240
A national need for more housing, and so rather than building new housing, a lot of here on Zanderep.

1434
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:21,600
It would be great to see more of this happening, conversions from Ethiopia, or less than full office to be residential.

1435
01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:23,200
But like that.

1436
01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:24,920
All right, that's totally off the point.

1437
01:42:24,940 --> 01:42:28,520
But I've been pleased with the Nature Project.

1438
01:42:29,660 --> 01:42:35,760
From a picture of age 5 in your form to me, it looks like the chimneys of the same height.

1439
01:42:41,810 --> 01:42:43,010
It's not the height.

1440
01:42:44,610 --> 01:42:44,650
Yes.

1441
01:42:44,650 --> 01:42:47,370
I do imagine the location on the side of the patient.

1442
01:42:47,850 --> 01:42:48,410
But they're not.

1443
01:42:48,890 --> 01:42:50,250
We're still raising the light of the children.

1444
01:42:51,090 --> 01:42:51,890
But those are being raised.

1445
01:42:52,610 --> 01:42:53,790
They're currently the same height.

1446
01:42:53,930 --> 01:42:54,410
And they will be raised.

1447
01:42:54,590 --> 01:42:54,970
Same height.

1448
01:42:55,130 --> 01:42:55,510
They're just on.

1449
01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:56,970
Exactly.

1450
01:42:56,970 --> 01:42:58,570
Once the other back in the elevation.

1451
01:42:59,190 --> 01:43:01,170
I said, was that your friend's turn?

1452
01:43:01,210 --> 01:43:02,670
My concern was the height.

1453
01:43:03,670 --> 01:43:05,310
Is that the only change you're making for the Chinese?

1454
01:43:06,750 --> 01:43:09,010
Is that the only change you're making for the Chinese?

1455
01:43:09,010 --> 01:43:15,230
just behind. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's your concern for both children. Yeah, I guess. They're not

1456
01:43:15,230 --> 01:43:20,090
placed symmetrically on the side of the building, right. But that's just the fact of the

1457
01:43:20,090 --> 01:43:28,050
chimneys. Especially since they've been raised to clear the top red line, they're really standing

1458
01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:37,450
out to me. All right. This also reminds me of a building in the 200-blood of South Fairfax Street.

1459
01:43:37,450 --> 01:43:41,550
Yeah, I think that we just referred before you, the portfolios.

1460
01:43:42,250 --> 01:43:44,210
Well, this is right next door to them.

1461
01:43:44,350 --> 01:43:46,570
And it's two, a sister house,

1462
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:48,590
this may have been next door to them.

1463
01:43:48,910 --> 01:43:50,490
Sister minds may have very much of that.

1464
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:52,630
Pardon that for my ramble likes.

1465
01:43:52,990 --> 01:43:54,570
I would like to approve this.

1466
01:43:57,500 --> 01:43:58,040
Thank you.

1467
01:43:58,860 --> 01:43:59,940
I think it's a great design.

1468
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:03,940
And the second fact is I appreciate that.

1469
01:44:05,020 --> 01:44:06,500
And the change in material.

1470
01:44:07,460 --> 01:44:09,540
I really do appreciate that.

1471
01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:11,640
I keep the information on the chimneys,

1472
01:44:11,860 --> 01:44:14,340
it's really important to the series of the buildings

1473
01:44:14,340 --> 01:44:17,600
as wood burning, especially, I think it's right.

1474
01:44:19,460 --> 01:44:22,360
I agree that it would be a little bit more

1475
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,720
ornate, but it would be nice, but.

1476
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,360
That's our potential of work.

1477
01:44:27,700 --> 01:44:28,720
We'd love that opportunity.

1478
01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:29,820
Thank you.

1479
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:31,020
I convinced my clients.

1480
01:44:34,220 --> 01:44:37,240
So, do we make a nice end?

1481
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:42,500
I'll make a motion to make a motion to approve about this and I do vote for one time.

1482
01:44:42,860 --> 01:44:43,320
Let's talk here tonight.

1483
01:44:43,460 --> 01:44:45,780
So let's think about what I do need to separate votes.

1484
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,780
So let's call this one for 17.

1485
01:44:48,420 --> 01:44:48,880
Okay.

1486
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,560
Make a motion to approve 17 and 18 first.

1487
01:44:52,820 --> 01:44:53,300
Next recommendation.

1488
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,320
You want to include the.

1489
01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:58,240
You want to focus that on the.

1490
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,220
I'll see you in the next one.

1491
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,140
19, 2020.

1492
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:11,480
I think you want to move on to one of the more with the staff on the record of the post project.

1493
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:17,320
Okay. Oh, I was looking at it. One was for demolition of everything.

1494
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:17,940
Oh, okay.

1495
01:45:18,300 --> 01:45:19,380
What's in my opinion is 500?

1496
01:45:19,860 --> 01:45:23,760
Yes, I see. Well, now that I read, I'm not reading the words at all.

1497
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:29,980
Yes, I'm reading the words at all.

1498
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:35,820
would staff to enhance the chimney brickwork.

1499
01:45:37,140 --> 01:45:37,560
Second.

1500
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:41,080
So the problem.

1501
01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:41,880
Yes.

1502
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:46,300
And this is a roll.

1503
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:47,000
I'm a 12.

1504
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:48,300
I.

1505
01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:50,360
I'm a 12.

1506
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:51,440
I.

1507
01:45:52,660 --> 01:45:54,560
So that's 17 18 that's 500.

1508
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:03,900
So in 1920, I make a motion to approve first that recommendations and that the architect works with staff to enhance the.

1509
01:46:03,900 --> 01:46:05,980
a part of the Chimney brickwork.

1510
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:08,520
Same motion.

1511
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:10,080
Like that.

1512
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:10,980
I remember some business.

1513
01:46:11,180 --> 01:46:12,320
I used to say I've been the first one.

1514
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:12,720
No.

1515
01:46:12,980 --> 01:46:13,400
They call that.

1516
01:46:13,860 --> 01:46:14,500
They call that.

1517
01:46:14,940 --> 01:46:15,220
Like that.

1518
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:18,880
So, sorry.

1519
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:20,900
I'm trying to make sure I'm trying to make it.

1520
01:46:21,980 --> 01:46:22,180
Okay.

1521
01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:26,750
And this is the balance problem.

1522
01:46:27,410 --> 01:46:27,730
I.

1523
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:29,310
Specific.

1524
01:46:31,250 --> 01:46:31,770
I.

1525
01:46:33,010 --> 01:46:33,210
I.

1526
01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:37,090
Thank you. Thank you all.

1527
01:46:37,370 --> 01:46:37,990
Thank you.

1528
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:38,110
Thank you.

1529
01:46:38,570 --> 01:46:40,130
Thank you.

1530
01:46:40,130 --> 01:46:40,850
Thank you.

1531
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:49,600
All right.

1532
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,220
I don't know what's going to happen.

1533
01:46:54,570 --> 01:46:55,530
This is B&R.

1534
01:46:55,810 --> 01:46:56,390
0.0.

1535
01:46:56,570 --> 01:46:57,310
0.0.

1536
01:46:57,450 --> 01:46:57,550
0.0.

1537
01:46:58,210 --> 01:46:58,570
0.0.

1538
01:46:58,590 --> 01:46:59,170
0.0.

1539
01:47:00,210 --> 01:47:02,370
The professor of operations and excited to monitor

1540
01:47:02,370 --> 01:47:03,770
the online forum, and it must be busy.

1541
01:47:04,130 --> 01:47:05,430
That would be good, isn't it?

1542
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:07,990
They have been made up of this and it will change from the second.

1543
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,540
The professor of the work is to install the read,

1544
01:47:12,620 --> 01:47:15,360
be-low, elicinated wall signs on the west

1545
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,440
of northern and south elevations.

1546
01:47:18,060 --> 01:47:21,040
On page two of the report, you'll see the site context

1547
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,640
for this project is a seven-story office building

1548
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,120
surrounded by commercial and residential buildings.

1549
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,240
The professor signs will be visible from north-washing

1550
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:32,380
it's street, first street, Montgomery Street, and North St.

1551
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:39,120
Asaf Street, page three of the report shows placement of the proposed signs here.

1552
01:47:40,060 --> 01:47:45,500
Page three also draws attention to the sign standards, which include sign letter,

1553
01:47:45,620 --> 01:47:50,580
and should be appropriately scaled to the sign and optimized for pedestrian viewing.

1554
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:54,440
Sign should be attached to the manner that causes the least damage to the bill in material.

1555
01:47:54,440 --> 01:48:14,620
The board discourage you internally illuminated the little live back lit in the on the style sign and where signs of lighting the elimination should be adjustable with the final level determined in the field by staff and the color of the light should be warmer rather than a lighter slash bullet page 4 of the report has the HV staff recommendation.

1556
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,300
Thank you.

1557
01:48:21,300 --> 01:48:29,260
on television, Virginia, representing the governor, to tenon, and everybody else associated

1558
01:48:29,260 --> 01:48:30,080
with the sign.

1559
01:48:30,700 --> 01:48:33,160
Would you like to make a presentation or just add?

1560
01:48:33,780 --> 01:48:37,640
Well, I mean, again, so this is a little bit different than the last time I'm solving.

1561
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:42,140
This is a commercial, you know, this is on North Washington Street.

1562
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,580
This is a commercial building.

1563
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:51,180
Do you understand that there are some residences around, but this building towers, this is kind

1564
01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:57,480
big, the tallest building in the area. So when you come down, you know, from National Airport,

1565
01:48:57,980 --> 01:49:01,400
this is, you start to get into town. This is one of the first buildings that you see under

1566
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:21,160
left. So we agree with everything in the staff report except one thing. And probably going to

1567
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:22,440
this type of side.

1568
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:30,580
That's really, it's a yellow. It's not white. I understand that the LED

1569
01:49:30,580 --> 01:49:38,040
kelp is launched from 3,000 to 7,500. You get to 7,000 to 7,500. They're bright, stark white.

1570
01:49:38,980 --> 01:49:46,720
But I don't think it's appropriate that when they look up the information on LEDs and kelp is 3,000

1571
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:54,420
They talk about that being indoor, type of soft lighting for offices for smaller areas.

1572
01:49:55,340 --> 01:49:59,620
So I'm hoping that you guys will consider allowing.

1573
01:50:00,370 --> 01:50:10,090
Something a little bit more this white. I mean, my client has a, you know, their colors are red, white and blue. They don't want a sign that's red, yellow and blue.

1574
01:50:14,050 --> 01:50:29,010
And I mean, questions from this as I have board members. I have a question. I just want to clarify. This is currently an illuminated and interestingly, there are some, yes, there are current, we are replacing that's location.

1575
01:50:29,010 --> 01:50:30,930
are the exact same location.

1576
01:50:31,630 --> 01:50:31,770
Almost.

1577
01:50:32,430 --> 01:50:34,770
There are on the front where you see

1578
01:50:34,770 --> 01:50:36,410
AFTA and photo one.

1579
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:38,510
Above there, there's something

1580
01:50:38,510 --> 01:50:39,510
says five star.

1581
01:50:40,090 --> 01:50:41,650
They are like the owners of the building.

1582
01:50:42,070 --> 01:50:43,230
That goes away.

1583
01:50:44,030 --> 01:50:45,530
And the new AFTA sign goes

1584
01:50:45,530 --> 01:50:48,330
more adding a sign around.

1585
01:50:48,430 --> 01:50:50,070
I think it's photo three

1586
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:51,230
of the South elevation.

1587
01:50:51,690 --> 01:50:52,970
That's a brand new sign.

1588
01:50:53,150 --> 01:50:55,230
There's no sign there on that elevation right now.

1589
01:50:55,610 --> 01:50:58,170
But that elevation faces the river

1590
01:50:58,170 --> 01:51:11,150
And when planes come in, I think they want that kind of look if people are going to look over and they're going to see that the outside. Why I don't know, but I think that they want their name to that.

1591
01:51:11,550 --> 01:51:15,490
They put a number one, if you said that it's on a movement where it is too far.

1592
01:51:15,970 --> 01:51:20,630
There is already a sign right now, this is after, but there's two signs on that elevation right now.

1593
01:51:20,630 --> 01:51:24,970
a bug in that where the cursor is, says five star.

1594
01:51:25,210 --> 01:51:26,550
And that one is waiting.

1595
01:51:26,930 --> 01:51:29,750
They're all alone, they're all alone, they're all alone.

1596
01:51:29,810 --> 01:51:31,410
It's where they're working right now.

1597
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:34,870
I don't know, but they all, and that's not working.

1598
01:51:35,170 --> 01:51:43,290
Okay, so the new ones will, but yes, but they are all supposedly, I mean, if you go up there,

1599
01:51:43,410 --> 01:51:44,210
you can see the what?

1600
01:51:44,210 --> 01:51:52,310
This is one of them to be illuminated, and I hate them to be a low-liminated, which is appropriate,

1601
01:51:52,330 --> 01:51:53,450
and not front-leg.

1602
01:51:54,470 --> 01:52:00,130
And so it's still the soft, office type of look versus a retail, you know,

1603
01:52:00,230 --> 01:52:02,190
that start retail look that you get.

1604
01:52:02,810 --> 01:52:05,670
They are illuminated now, or they're supposed to be illuminated now.

1605
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:08,110
So at one point, they were approved to be illuminated.

1606
01:52:08,110 --> 01:52:15,990
it. So we'd like that, but we'd like you to consider instead of that 3,000 kelvin restriction

1607
01:52:16,670 --> 01:52:24,110
to let us do something that's 5,000 kelvin is considered white. Consider daylight white.

1608
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:30,970
And we would like something that's white. So when you look at it in the evening,

1609
01:52:31,890 --> 01:52:35,410
there's a white halo around it and not a yellow around as your doll.

1610
01:52:35,410 --> 01:52:43,370
Thank you. Thank you. This is not, I mean, I understand that it's technically old tunnel,

1611
01:52:43,730 --> 01:52:50,410
but I mean, again, this is a seven-story office building. And if you're going to put it all

1612
01:52:50,410 --> 01:52:56,450
of this building, a brick office building, I mean, you've got to allow, or you hope that you

1613
01:52:56,450 --> 01:52:59,650
consider allowing the tennis to have an appropriate sign.

1614
01:53:01,950 --> 01:53:06,330
Yeah, I guess the owner and the tenant is asked about talent.

1615
01:53:06,530 --> 01:53:07,470
Oh, is it?

1616
01:53:07,590 --> 01:53:08,970
So I have a question for Mr. Compton.

1617
01:53:13,780 --> 01:53:19,040
So when we just mean, this is just me talking off my head,

1618
01:53:19,220 --> 01:53:22,220
when we do our guidelines, I think most of the time,

1619
01:53:22,380 --> 01:53:23,460
when I think of our advice,

1620
01:53:24,500 --> 01:53:28,520
and typically not, not depending on your status,

1621
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:29,880
but that out front.

1622
01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:46,560
I typically think of walking down to the street and seeing small residential, not residential, but smaller buildings, kind of street-level, street-level, where you typically would want something that's kind of a soft work, right?

1623
01:53:46,740 --> 01:53:48,140
That's kind of how I think of our science.

1624
01:53:48,140 --> 01:53:52,540
Yeah, I mean, the vast majority of the science that we see, the practices and the statuses

1625
01:53:52,540 --> 01:53:57,960
of the mystery of the vast majority are a string of military systems, right, and the

1626
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:04,680
political temperature that we've felt as an organization has been based on that as the

1627
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:11,610
type of statuses, I guess, yes, that is the vast majority of the things

1628
01:54:13,790 --> 01:54:18,290
that I have, my concern

1629
01:54:18,290 --> 01:54:25,550
is that we go pull more with this light fiction. That it will be too strong, even though it's

1630
01:54:25,550 --> 01:54:33,270
seven stories of it. So I have another thing to really judge this off of. I might have me

1631
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:48,270
would do that that 3,000 calories might be too low, but I'm not sure if going far plus is the light

1632
01:54:48,270 --> 01:54:49,630
particular temperature.

1633
01:54:51,850 --> 01:54:57,370
It can be adjusted. It can be you can get them to read there

1634
01:54:57,370 --> 01:54:59,210
or they're adjusted. Adjustable.

1635
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:23,540
We can do that. But usually you determine how bright you want it, and that's what you get for your LEDs, because they make 3,000, 354,000, 5,000, 6,500, 7,000, 7,000. So when there's no restrictions, we're always going to put in 7,000 or 75,000, because people watch the cloud, you know, they look at it as my sign is bright and everything.

1636
01:55:23,540 --> 01:55:35,340
But trying to be sensitive to your guys or performance, we thought, I mean, 5,000, like I said, it's considered daylight.

1637
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:47,280
And I think that fair compromise between a really stark bright 7,000, you know, fade versus a very yellowy 3,000, 3500.

1638
01:55:47,280 --> 01:56:16,460
Okay, so we just want it to be white versus, you know, yellow and I looked up and was lighting LED light expert dot com and they talked about the different Kelvin's and, you know, 3,000 kit it produces a warm calm inviting light that is great for general indoor lighting, you know, 4,000, 4,66500 is crisp.

1639
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,800
pure white light, 5,000, which is really

1640
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,460
what we're asking is daylight, white,

1641
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:23,640
used for outdoor lighting.

1642
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:25,000
That's what it says in there.

1643
01:56:25,340 --> 01:56:27,100
Can you go and worry about it?

1644
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:27,660
What is that?

1645
01:56:27,660 --> 01:56:28,320
This white light.

1646
01:56:28,940 --> 01:56:33,060
I know that the thing is still much higher up on the buildings,

1647
01:56:33,220 --> 01:56:33,980
so it's not light.

1648
01:56:34,780 --> 01:56:39,040
And one of them on the north side is directly facing residential buildings.

1649
01:56:39,660 --> 01:56:43,700
But this is the north side, is that?

1650
01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:45,440
It's the first street.

1651
01:56:47,780 --> 01:56:55,360
The third life of the farm, the one that's like the apartment building or whatever, but it will be higher than the apartment building.

1652
01:56:55,800 --> 01:57:04,740
So, and it's halo illuminated. So, it's not that it's going to be shooting any time to clear into anybody's windows or anybody's, you know,

1653
01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:07,260
I had, I thought we were going to find this way.

1654
01:57:07,740 --> 01:57:08,240
I'm sorry.

1655
01:57:08,660 --> 01:57:10,360
But again, being Halo a little bit, I think.

1656
01:57:10,540 --> 01:57:10,840
Yeah.

1657
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:13,480
I understand what you're saying with Versus.

1658
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,980
You know, if it was front that sign, where it was a letter,

1659
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,640
that would be much more stormed.

1660
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:20,740
I'm going to ask the same question.

1661
01:57:20,860 --> 01:57:22,060
Can't you order it with the range?

1662
01:57:22,420 --> 01:57:27,900
I didn't read that 33,000 houses probably too low for this application.

1663
01:57:28,300 --> 01:57:30,880
I'm not going to say that that's not true.

1664
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:37,220
Maybe we've been learning about how to build a level of 1,000 or 1,000 or 1,000 to 6,000.

1665
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:38,160
I would even say 6.

1666
01:57:38,580 --> 01:57:40,020
But did you get it with the range?

1667
01:57:40,380 --> 01:57:40,500
I don't know.

1668
01:57:40,580 --> 01:57:40,680
I don't know.

1669
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:46,060
We're happy with 5,000 Kelvin LED modules.

1670
01:57:46,380 --> 01:57:47,040
We've put them in there.

1671
01:57:47,260 --> 01:57:52,240
And again, it's not being something that range between 4,000 and 5.

1672
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,940
I mean, she said there is just, it can be adjust between those two ranges.

1673
01:58:00,930 --> 01:58:01,150
That way.

1674
01:58:01,150 --> 01:58:04,930
I'm not sure if I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not an expert, I just had a stall.

1675
01:58:05,590 --> 01:58:11,250
So I do know that you can put them on like a dimmer and that's like a stuff.

1676
01:58:11,590 --> 01:58:14,090
So we could, I mean, we could look into what I said.

1677
01:58:14,610 --> 01:58:17,970
When I don't like it to be, I don't want to see anybody up with Jordan.

1678
01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:25,270
What I would like to see is that if we improve something, staff go out and look at it

1679
01:58:26,230 --> 01:58:28,830
and give the final approval and a lot of that.

1680
01:58:28,830 --> 01:58:34,970
But I have to do a need. Yes, so because you want us to do that because you want us to do it with the death and

1681
01:58:39,290 --> 01:58:45,590
So you wouldn't be willing to approve something so basically I got it to we were able to damn this

1682
01:58:47,050 --> 01:58:48,910
If it be something they would be then else

1683
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:57,690
I could probably I mean, I just need to figure out before I say oh, yeah, I want to read to something and they tell me

1684
01:58:57,690 --> 01:59:06,490
you can't do that. You want to defer. I really don't want to do it. I don't see a problem with that.

1685
01:59:07,110 --> 01:59:11,610
I just look at somehow I need to protect myself because we do if I'm going to give you a rake.

1686
01:59:12,990 --> 01:59:15,210
So, I'm just trying to find a solution to it. Sure.

1687
01:59:16,290 --> 01:59:16,470
Okay.

1688
01:59:17,250 --> 01:59:22,870
Um, I have some concerns about it. I first want to understand the box. Did you say the five star

1689
01:59:23,810 --> 01:59:26,430
like sign this coming off the building? Correct.

1690
01:59:26,430 --> 01:59:33,490
Okay. That's an improvement. Thank you. Okay. This is a gateway into all sounds.

1691
01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:39,050
For which we talked about gateway being free from five south roads from sorry I think it's

1692
01:59:39,050 --> 01:59:43,750
no referrals to you earlier this evening. I'm going to surprise right out in south of which

1693
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:50,170
a gateway. But anyway, this is a truly gateway into Alexandria coming from the airport down the far

1694
01:59:52,110 --> 01:59:56,450
and that past start has driven me crazy for four years.

1695
01:59:57,550 --> 01:59:59,970
So I'm really glad it's coming down, but I am.

1696
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,780
It's certain about the lining of it. When I go up and down to extreme,

1697
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:09,440
now this is outside of the

1698
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:15,700
historic district, but the motley pool and another business called five guys, they've got

1699
02:00:15,700 --> 02:00:29,980
able to eliminate its signs, and they've done it. I can't tell you if it's so tailor or what the

1700
02:00:29,980 --> 02:00:30,960
That's how much an old house.

1701
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:40,200
I'm hesitant here to go with what you're asking for because I think this is an opportunity

1702
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:46,180
to dive down, what has been less than attractive for a very long time.

1703
02:00:49,470 --> 02:00:56,770
But I believe that if you dial down the kelvin's and make it a yellow light, it's not going

1704
02:00:56,770 --> 02:01:01,090
to look as nice as it was a softer white light around the letters.

1705
02:01:01,090 --> 02:01:17,030
Well, then that's another comment that you made and I do want to talk with you about it, I'm not trying to say, you know, my world is a lot, but we have a CBS sign on King Street, that is as we talked about small and commercial and it's diminishing compared to this.

1706
02:01:17,030 --> 02:01:21,970
But that's the S sign is supposed to be below the FND's outcomes, right?

1707
02:01:22,310 --> 02:01:24,850
I don't even think I think that's available as well.

1708
02:01:25,510 --> 02:01:28,210
Well, I don't know, but it is supposed to be.

1709
02:01:28,590 --> 02:01:32,930
And we can be able to put around the ground on that and sitting here in the unit.

1710
02:01:33,210 --> 02:01:36,890
It's supposed to be, you know, you're supposed to grab a check.

1711
02:01:37,070 --> 02:01:41,870
If there's any questions about it and whether it's been installed or what will be approved.

1712
02:01:42,630 --> 02:01:43,530
But that's like,

1713
02:01:43,530 --> 02:01:45,970
It is a lot of excitement, but the love is the same.

1714
02:01:46,610 --> 02:01:47,550
It was the light.

1715
02:01:47,650 --> 02:01:49,970
It was the face light up to the letters light up ahead.

1716
02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:51,210
But they say, it is halo.

1717
02:01:51,710 --> 02:01:53,010
I don't know what it is.

1718
02:01:53,210 --> 02:01:53,950
It's white.

1719
02:01:55,450 --> 02:01:56,190
It's not yellow.

1720
02:01:57,850 --> 02:02:01,630
And not, I can't speak for them, but I want to say that they,

1721
02:02:01,630 --> 02:02:03,430
because I use starting point.

1722
02:02:04,210 --> 02:02:07,650
Yeah, I don't think you can't change.

1723
02:02:08,030 --> 02:02:08,810
It is what it is.

1724
02:02:08,810 --> 02:02:17,430
3,500, 3,000 kelvin. It's yellow. I mean, I wish you could have made you, you know, they have a chart,

1725
02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:22,050
it kind of shows you, you know, because you look like bulbs and tell us what it is. And you can see,

1726
02:02:22,110 --> 02:02:27,270
you know, it goes up from from yellow and then a little bit less yellow and then just a hint of yellow

1727
02:02:27,270 --> 02:02:32,490
and then yeah, that's so. So there you go. I mean, you see things stuff like that. So that's why

1728
02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:36,590
I can't tell you what they put in there, and they're something. Yeah, you know, I speak to a

1729
02:02:36,590 --> 02:02:42,470
we wanted to, but we wanted to turn it into the middle, which is not, which is the first, where it's

1730
02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:50,190
primarily white versus having a yellow key. I don't think that's, I mean, again, this is also,

1731
02:02:50,230 --> 02:02:58,130
you know, you're speaking of signs, which I agree with, huge aims that, um, King Street, pedestrian level,

1732
02:02:58,170 --> 02:03:03,650
that's a little bit different. But this is an office building, these signs as you can see are six, seven

1733
02:03:03,650 --> 02:03:08,630
stories up in the near. They're very eye catching coming down so hard but I will say that

1734
02:03:08,630 --> 02:03:14,530
are you planning to in this picture that I'm at which may not be added but the letters

1735
02:03:14,530 --> 02:03:19,890
look more of a darker blood of me are where is the light going to be? It's going to be

1736
02:03:19,890 --> 02:03:23,390
glowing behind the blood? Yes, yes, so I've been doing it.

1737
02:03:27,370 --> 02:03:28,910
Oh okay, well it looks.

1738
02:03:29,730 --> 02:03:31,830
It was just to remember for our presentation.

1739
02:03:32,210 --> 02:03:32,810
Yes, it was.

1740
02:03:34,410 --> 02:03:35,690
We focus here.

1741
02:03:36,010 --> 02:03:36,870
Yes, we focus here.

1742
02:03:37,290 --> 02:03:37,570
Yes, we focus here.

1743
02:03:37,570 --> 02:03:37,790
Sorry.

1744
02:03:38,930 --> 02:03:40,390
I don't think the whole job.

1745
02:03:42,190 --> 02:03:42,370
Okay.

1746
02:03:46,140 --> 02:03:46,440
Okay.

1747
02:03:46,980 --> 02:03:47,440
That's done.

1748
02:03:47,900 --> 02:03:48,980
Would you probably like that?

1749
02:03:49,340 --> 02:03:52,120
It was higher than 5,000.

1750
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:53,640
That's really great.

1751
02:03:54,060 --> 02:04:00,020
So what did they say to work with the staff to something between what?

1752
02:04:00,020 --> 02:04:02,320
like me, she's gonna love this.

1753
02:04:02,620 --> 02:04:03,740
Oh, no, she's gonna love this.

1754
02:04:03,740 --> 02:04:04,100
I'm sorry.

1755
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:05,020
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1756
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:05,680
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1757
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:13,340
Maybe something between 3,000 to 45,000.

1758
02:04:13,460 --> 02:04:16,120
Yeah, 3,000 to 4,000 might be good.

1759
02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:18,840
4,000 is still gonna be yellow.

1760
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:22,400
4,500 still has a hint of yellow.

1761
02:04:22,660 --> 02:04:29,740
I really wish you would let us try 5,000 with, you know, I guess the caveat, I mean,

1762
02:04:29,740 --> 02:04:32,240
I'm pretty sure you guys don't have a problem with it,

1763
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:34,840
but I'm certainly, if you could put in there,

1764
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:37,780
but you know, you have, I don't know how you work in.

1765
02:04:37,900 --> 02:04:40,220
I mean, say, you know, whatever you see,

1766
02:04:40,340 --> 02:04:42,540
yes, you know, the same type of wording

1767
02:04:42,540 --> 02:04:43,880
or something along those lines.

1768
02:04:44,060 --> 02:04:45,260
That ain't forgotten to work with.

1769
02:04:47,860 --> 02:04:49,560
Right, that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

1770
02:04:49,620 --> 02:04:49,880
That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

1771
02:04:50,940 --> 02:04:51,980
Yeah, I was in the morning,

1772
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:56,840
I think in addition, that I think that it be,

1773
02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:57,540
But don't move.

1774
02:04:58,200 --> 02:04:58,720
Yeah, don't.

1775
02:04:58,860 --> 02:04:59,620
The standard of fashion.

1776
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:21,080
Okay. And this is a long site. And from the left of the most correct. And if it is, the other thing is back to comes out that it cannot be justice, then an applicant could return to the board to modify approval. So if that wasn't basic. If you say you go back and get pointed out that a kid can't get them, you can go back to this board, it's not sponsored.

1777
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:22,820
that even I went back and looked at can't be

1778
02:05:22,820 --> 02:05:24,380
able to like to modify the removal.

1779
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:26,400
And then that's fun.

1780
02:05:26,660 --> 02:05:28,820
I'm pretty sure can be dimmed.

1781
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:30,760
I don't want to say 100% I'm positive.

1782
02:05:31,940 --> 02:05:33,380
But certainly we didn't really get that.

1783
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:34,680
It's what I'm going to do.

1784
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:35,780
Yeah, it's down.

1785
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:37,540
It could certainly do something like that.

1786
02:05:37,700 --> 02:05:40,920
And we would, yeah, I think that's the reason

1787
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:42,180
to come from us.

1788
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:45,840
What do you think?

1789
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:50,510
It's a good competition of it comes three thousand.

1790
02:05:51,470 --> 02:05:53,570
But on four thousand five thousand.

1791
02:05:53,570 --> 02:05:54,590
Right, right,

1792
02:05:57,850 --> 02:05:57,850
right.

1793
02:05:57,850 --> 02:05:58,110
Right, right.

1794
02:05:58,530 --> 02:06:00,710
Realizing that if you need to be with them,

1795
02:06:00,890 --> 02:06:02,110
forget it to put them one more.

1796
02:06:02,230 --> 02:06:02,570
Got it.

1797
02:06:02,570 --> 02:06:02,730
Well it's okay.

1798
02:06:02,970 --> 02:06:04,450
At any point.

1799
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:05,450
Right.

1800
02:06:06,070 --> 02:06:06,150
Right.

1801
02:06:09,090 --> 02:06:09,430
Right.

1802
02:06:11,470 --> 02:06:14,630
So yeah, that's fine.

1803
02:06:14,830 --> 02:06:15,930
We'll be happy to do that.

1804
02:06:16,330 --> 02:06:16,630
Right.

1805
02:06:16,630 --> 02:06:21,050
At the time we didn't install it, I probably didn't dare to win or sort of be dark, except something.

1806
02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:23,470
Oh, okay. Okay.

1807
02:06:24,010 --> 02:06:24,710
Oh, are you okay?

1808
02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:25,590
We need to check it out.

1809
02:06:26,030 --> 02:06:26,890
We need to check it out.

1810
02:06:30,570 --> 02:06:31,530
Thank you.

1811
02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:32,330
All right.

1812
02:06:33,190 --> 02:06:33,430
All right.

1813
02:06:33,430 --> 02:06:41,410
So I'll make your portion to for the applicant to work with the staff on a minimal payload sign.

1814
02:06:41,410 --> 02:06:51,970
It's been 3,000 to 5,000, okay, or a step to check the basis after installation to verify if it needs to be, or what level it needs to be.

1815
02:06:52,830 --> 02:06:54,330
Yes, we will do a little bit of a problem.

1816
02:06:56,270 --> 02:06:57,550
We have a second.

1817
02:06:59,230 --> 02:06:59,710
Second.

1818
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:03,900
Excuse me.

1819
02:07:05,220 --> 02:07:05,920
There's a second.

1820
02:07:06,460 --> 02:07:08,020
I have a question right here.

1821
02:07:08,020 --> 02:07:09,880
There was your question down there.

1822
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:11,100
Sorry, sorry.

1823
02:07:11,140 --> 02:07:13,260
For a second.

1824
02:07:15,020 --> 02:07:17,340
What if you did you just second yourself?

1825
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:18,920
No, you know, I didn't make the motion.

1826
02:07:19,260 --> 02:07:19,780
No, I didn't make the motion.

1827
02:07:21,380 --> 02:07:23,020
It was a long time ago.

1828
02:07:25,540 --> 02:07:28,140
So, all in favour?

1829
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:29,260
Hi.

1830
02:07:30,180 --> 02:07:30,200
Hi.

1831
02:07:32,260 --> 02:07:33,440
Anya, boys?

1832
02:07:34,060 --> 02:07:34,740
Anya.

1833
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:36,640
Oh.

1834
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,940
You're going to be very happy when it's dying.

1835
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:45,700
Well, thank you so much.

1836
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:48,640
This will be an improvement to have the hate low limit

1837
02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:50,100
with the internal immunization.

1838
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:50,780
Yes.

1839
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:51,300
Oh, yes.

1840
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:52,880
And also, thank you.

1841
02:07:53,060 --> 02:07:55,420
You were one of the first cases and one of the last.

1842
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:56,140
Yes.

1843
02:07:56,340 --> 02:07:56,720
Thank you.

1844
02:07:57,060 --> 02:07:57,680
Thank you.

1845
02:07:58,080 --> 02:07:58,600
Thank you.

1846
02:08:01,460 --> 02:08:01,900
Thanks.

1847
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:02,820
I appreciate it.

1848
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:03,540
Thank you.

1849
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:03,980
All right.

1850
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:05,780
So you're like this.

1851
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:08,120
So what do I do?

1852
02:08:08,380 --> 02:08:11,260
So I mean, it's very civil-wants for the skits and stars.

1853
02:08:11,620 --> 02:08:13,200
So we can contact you guys.

1854
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:14,680
Okay.

1855
02:08:16,020 --> 02:08:16,580
Thank you.

1856
02:08:19,020 --> 02:08:20,300
Thanks a ton of the CDS.

1857
02:08:20,460 --> 02:08:21,800
The generation or the,

1858
02:08:24,140 --> 02:08:28,460
Do you want to see the veterinary clinic around the corner?

1859
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:28,980
Right.

1860
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:29,920
So.

1861
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:33,280
I know we had the same approval methods.

1862
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,320
I guess my question is.

1863
02:08:36,300 --> 02:08:42,740
What's stopping them from which I think might have happened, you know, we look at it, it looks great through this boom.

1864
02:08:43,300 --> 02:08:44,060
It was a walk away.

1865
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:45,960
I think that's what you back up.

1866
02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:51,880
I mean, I think that, I mean, we'll go there, I mean, since you have supporters asked me to check on it,

1867
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:57,540
I will go back and check the approval of the climate for that and see if it was personally available and check to see what we're on.

1868
02:08:57,980 --> 02:08:58,960
I think that we will come check them.

1869
02:08:58,980 --> 02:08:59,680
I think that we will come check them.

1870
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:00,360
I think that we will come check them.

1871
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:05,280
I think that we will come check them.

1872
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,760
And that's for which we, where's the cost of pigeons?

1873
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:10,700
What?

1874
02:09:11,380 --> 02:09:13,280
It's getting to be a long night.

1875
02:09:14,140 --> 02:09:15,080
I'll read the next one.

1876
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:18,300
I'll read the next one.

1877
02:09:18,380 --> 02:09:18,600
Okay.

1878
02:09:18,860 --> 02:09:19,720
Sure, no, no, no.

1879
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:21,160
You're seeing me.

1880
02:09:21,460 --> 02:09:22,700
No, no, no, no.

1881
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:23,580
Okay.

1882
02:09:24,220 --> 02:09:27,000
We have two together to consider.

1883
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:28,280
It's also our last.

1884
02:09:28,940 --> 02:09:30,760
So BAR 2026.

1885
02:09:31,180 --> 02:09:32,980
There are three of those six,

1886
02:09:32,980 --> 02:09:43,960
which is the Facebook partial demolition and encapsulation at one of the VV3s as well as VAR 2026307,

1887
02:09:44,220 --> 02:09:47,100
which is the alterations at the same address.

1888
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:53,300
The applicant is Keith Lawson Moore represented by a current company of architect.

1889
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:59,960
The proposal before it was to demolish 76 square feet of existing slave roofing both on.

1890
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:09,340
As well as to add a group of terrorists, a new steering closure and a shed dormer to the south facing

1891
02:10:09,340 --> 02:10:29,460
man's apartment. On page 2 of the report, you'll see that the site context was project and part of

1892
02:10:29,460 --> 02:10:39,480
I'm sorry, page 4 and the report shows those were the dormer and her interest, page 5, get there and there we are.

1893
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:47,480
Draw those attention to design standards that include a style of scale of the dormers should be appropriate to your potential style.

1894
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:57,300
New dormers should be centered on or between the existing windows below new dormers should match existing dormers in style and proportion and

1895
02:10:57,300 --> 02:11:05,380
The opposite side is such a five or two men can be used on all sides and the flag of that is on the smooth finish and the end is musical.

1896
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:09,060
So I would like to ask the HV staff and recommendation.

1897
02:11:11,140 --> 02:11:11,400
Thank you.

1898
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,480
I'm so glad we were so glad we were fine.

1899
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:17,280
Hello.

1900
02:11:17,740 --> 02:11:19,120
My name is Karen Fauci.

1901
02:11:19,300 --> 02:11:20,820
I'm a four-centre South Lee street.

1902
02:11:21,020 --> 02:11:23,320
I'm here representing my client, Lawson Moore.

1903
02:11:24,340 --> 02:11:26,300
He gives his huge apologies.

1904
02:11:26,300 --> 02:11:30,380
see how the business meeting that came up or dinner that came up this evening so you could not

1905
02:11:30,380 --> 02:11:32,740
join us. So we had a response sitting by myself.

1906
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:39,680
Larson bought the phone earlier this screen. In the staff report, there was a picture of one of

1907
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:44,320
five Queen, which is a project I did, I guess, about three or four years ago. He fell in love with their

1908
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:51,040
group that said, hey, can you do me a roof deck just like that one? I said, let me see that. So

1909
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:56,640
proposing the cable railing around the perimeter and then a stair tower and then a stair

1910
02:11:56,640 --> 02:12:01,040
closure that's similar to what we did the next door at the neighbors so that's how we

1911
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:06,780
knew we can do it and a small outdoor kitchen. Even with that I answer any questions. I mean we

1912
02:12:06,780 --> 02:12:14,040
need to step forward and love them to step forward too. By the way, Peter, thank you. I need questions

1913
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:18,060
some of the board members. I think questions about the talk.

1914
02:12:21,580 --> 02:12:25,760
So we'll move through that. Any comment?

1915
02:12:29,580 --> 02:12:34,020
Yes, thank you. I do have a question. Is this a house where we're talking about?

1916
02:12:34,180 --> 02:12:39,120
It is. I did the game window in the shed door on the back. I guess 2016.

1917
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:44,480
Yeah, and we talked a lot about the window proportions to one another, right?

1918
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:44,900
I don't know.

1919
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:47,160
It's possible for different.

1920
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:48,680
I've worked on Austin's door.

1921
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:49,340
Okay.

1922
02:12:49,340 --> 02:12:51,540
But you can have some either side too, so.

1923
02:12:52,620 --> 02:12:52,760
Yeah, no.

1924
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:54,760
Okay.

1925
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:55,120
Absolutely.

1926
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:56,000
I'm going to talk to you.

1927
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:56,580
Yeah.

1928
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:57,760
We're all right.

1929
02:12:58,600 --> 02:12:59,400
All right.

1930
02:12:59,860 --> 02:13:01,520
So that's a funny question about.

1931
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:03,400
You are, I think, a donor.

1932
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:06,160
So the donor on the front.

1933
02:13:06,420 --> 02:13:07,900
Elevation is what we're adding.

1934
02:13:07,900 --> 02:13:13,760
So, currently, it's just a full man's service with no dormer, and so he's adding his

1935
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:19,040
three new menus up at the top. It's because if you go up in that third floor, it's like

1936
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:24,040
it's right, slowly, so he's trying to get that. He's got the sport footage, but you can't really

1937
02:13:24,040 --> 02:13:28,920
comment on it. I know I make sense if I just was wondering that on the roof of this,

1938
02:13:29,140 --> 02:13:33,920
are you using this vase that you're taking out to, or no, it's a mental,

1939
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,980
It's a very slow, slow, slow, slow, slow.

1940
02:13:38,780 --> 02:13:42,820
Yeah, a slightly require a speed for slow on the dormant.

1941
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:46,700
So, we're keeping the sleep around the dormant,

1942
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:49,920
but the actual roof of the dormant is metal.

1943
02:13:50,260 --> 02:13:51,000
It's good.

1944
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:53,400
Yeah, it's very good.

1945
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,820
And in the same slow, this is the dormant on the back side that we did in 2016.

1946
02:13:58,980 --> 02:14:04,240
Okay, I'm also like there are a few other questions more or what I can do.

1947
02:14:05,940 --> 02:14:06,540
Okay.

1948
02:14:06,540 --> 02:14:10,300
I'll make a motion to approve for staff accommodation.

1949
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:12,060
Second.

1950
02:14:13,340 --> 02:14:14,080
Thank you.

1951
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:16,640
Do we need to give this a roll call?

1952
02:14:16,740 --> 02:14:17,000
Yes.

1953
02:14:17,420 --> 02:14:18,780
We need to give this a roll call.

1954
02:14:19,180 --> 02:14:19,360
Yes.

1955
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:23,520
We need to make a motion and this is a roll call.

1956
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:25,280
Okay.

1957
02:14:26,590 --> 02:14:32,050
All right, and roll call is Mr. Messer.

1958
02:14:32,070 --> 02:14:32,450
Mr.

1959
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:35,680
Messer.

1960
02:14:41,550 --> 02:14:44,890
All right, thank you.

1961
02:14:44,910 --> 02:14:45,590
All right.

1962
02:14:45,930 --> 02:14:46,670
It's gorgeous.

1963
02:14:47,070 --> 02:14:47,810
Thank you very much.

1964
02:14:48,550 --> 02:14:50,090
Thank you.

1965
02:14:50,090 --> 02:14:51,070
Thank you.

1966
02:14:52,050 --> 02:14:52,890
Bye-bye.

1967
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:54,230
Bye-bye.

1968
02:14:56,770 --> 02:14:57,990
Bye-bye.

1969
02:14:58,370 --> 02:14:58,890
Bye-bye.

1970
02:14:58,890 --> 02:14:59,230
Thank you.

1971
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:09,040
All right. All right. All right. Thank you. The PMR.

1972
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:21,320
Please give us feedback on what you like and don't like about our staff forum table and all the great things that this question we're doing tonight.

1973
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,000
So we heard that.

1974
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:23,800
And that heard that.

1975
02:15:24,500 --> 02:15:24,760
They're not.

1976
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,620
I think I was going to be helping me help more 25 minutes a little bit.

1977
02:15:29,800 --> 02:15:30,640
I'm going to be a little bit.

1978
02:15:30,860 --> 02:15:31,480
Just a little bit.

1979
02:15:32,820 --> 02:15:33,460
Just a little bit.

1980
02:15:34,100 --> 02:15:34,540
Yeah.

1981
02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:35,180
It's good.

1982
02:15:35,540 --> 02:15:35,680
It's good.

1983
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:38,360
I think that.

1984
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:39,860
Well.

1985
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:43,320
In fact, I'm going to need to.

1986
02:15:43,620 --> 02:15:44,280
I'm going to need to.

1987
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:48,040
I think that to be able to go on by the end of a day.

1988
02:15:48,180 --> 02:15:48,940
We will go on.

1989
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:49,460
I'm going to.

1990
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:51,400
Yeah, it's fun.

1991
02:15:51,620 --> 02:15:54,660
Yeah, the goal is they are not going to be more than 90 seconds.

1992
02:15:55,840 --> 02:16:00,220
Which is also why I'm not giving you every single standard that you're putting in on staff.

1993
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:04,400
The staff report because the goal is, you guys are reading this, the staff report to report tonight.

1994
02:16:06,180 --> 02:16:11,100
So it's the intent is we are one of the few boards to not do this.

1995
02:16:11,700 --> 02:16:14,920
So it's going to try and better align with the other boards and commissions.

1996
02:16:14,920 --> 02:16:21,280
as well as just highlight the things from the stack of work.

1997
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:23,980
So if in any way the whole drive clip session,

1998
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:27,920
yeah, whatever the need may be.

1999
02:16:29,260 --> 02:16:30,280
Okay, thank you.

2000
02:16:33,780 --> 02:16:34,280
Thank you.