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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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I know what it's here, but it's not my thing, it's not my thing, it's not my now, I don't use all of it, I'm right.

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I don't need to know, I know what it is, but I know what it is.

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You pull it out, of course, and all of a sudden, you can't wait to do that.

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Oh, so that's exactly what you need to do.

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You need to read the other room.

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No, can't wait for the room to come back out, and all of those things take a few minutes.

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On the left, on the right, on the right, on the right, on the left, on

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the left.

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Thank you.

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Meeting will come to order, please.

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Please rise for the pledge to the flag led by Mr. Anthony

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for Lardi.

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Resent arms, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, to the visible, with liberty,

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and justice for all. Please remember standing for a moment of silence. Thank you, sir.

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Mr. Bunk. Mr. Bunk. Mr.

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Mr. Denco. Mr. DeFazio. Mr. Joe. Mr. Ellen Bowen. Mr. Fennardy. Mr. Fetholis.

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Mr. Green Hawkins. Mr. Harris.

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Mr. Hyrule Ball. Mr. Macy.

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Mr. Paul Mary. Mr. Ray. Mr. Robinson.

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Mr. Mark Tony President.

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Here, 13 members currently present.

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Proclamation certificates 7-7-1-13

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Proclamation thanking the Audubon Society of Western Pennsylvania for working with the Pennsylvania Game Commission to protect the three bald eagles nest in Allegheny County.

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sponsored by Council members, throws,

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danko, fatulus, and rate.

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We're not here at the moment.

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We'll go to 7772-13.

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Proclamation-arranged.

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The Federation of War Veterans Society

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Incorporated for providing a veterans day

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parade to Pittsburgh and Allegheny County

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and naming November 11, 2013

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as the Federation of War Veterans Society

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Incorporated day in Allegheny County.

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Thank you Mr.

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President. I am joined here by...

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Iowani, Alardi and Dick Silt, whose adunior vice commander. It's always a great pleasure for myself and

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Council and the Chief Executive to want to our veterans. He's done so much for us, and you can

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continue to do so much for us. And this proclamation is intended for the veterans of

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Federation of War Veterans Society who put on the parade every year.

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So without further ado, I'll read the proclamation in Antony and Dick can say a few words.

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Whereas the Federation of War Veterans Society Inc was formed in 1990, its purpose was

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partner annually, without any Connie, to provide a veteran-state parade in downtown Pittsburgh.

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And whereas the veterans of war, the Federation of War of Veterans' Societies has organized

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and presented the Veterans' Day parade in Allegheny County for 94 years.

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And whereas the organization educates

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elegant county residents to the proper recognition

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and care for our veterans through the parade,

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the group raises awareness of all veterans in our state.

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And whereas more than 1.2 million Pennsylvania's

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are veterans comprising 14% of the state population,

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a great percentage of those veterans reside in Allegheny County, and attend the commemorative

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parade, and therefore be it resolved that Allegheny County Council and our chief executive

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Rich Fitzgerald on behalf of the citizens of Allegheny County, hereby commends the Federation

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of War Veterans' Societies Inc. for consistently conducting and organizing the Veterans' Day

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Parade and Parasing Awareness of our Veterans. For the organization's efforts we hereby declare

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Monday, November 11, 2013, as the Federation of War Veterans' Societies Inc. Day in Allegheny

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this is sponsored by all members of Allegheny County Council and our Chief Executive

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Rich Fitzgerald.

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My

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name is Tony Follardy. I'm the President of the Federation of the War

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Veterans of the Society. I've been doing this for since 1990. I think I'm a

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regular guitar.

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But anyway, first of all, I would like to thank Mike

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Federalry for sponsoring this problem, make it along with all the council members.

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I appreciate it, and Federation appreciation, along with the chief executive for your support for the veterans of

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Allegheny County.

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The parade is going to be on November 11th.

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It will stay on Grand Street on Liberty and Grant, like it did last year.

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And it will follow Liberty Avenue all the way down to Stanwich Street.

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It will make a left turn on Stanwich Street and make a right turn on a boulevard of the

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allies where the Shomobile is there, which is the reviewing stand, and it will be ending

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by a cross in the Commonwealth place.

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Our apprayed an answer is done, but Getsky, he is now the National Junior Vice Commander

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in Chief of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

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So this Pennsylvania hasn't had one since 1972 to be a Commander in Chief of the Veterans

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of Foreign Wars.

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So that's a big plus for Pennsylvania and now again, Connie.

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And he's a Mickey's rocks resident, by the way, well, right now, he doesn't rob in some.

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So anyway, we invite everybody to come to the parade.

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If you can't march, you can always view the parade.

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Bring your families down to view the parade.

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You know, we'd like to see a quick cry out of there.

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So out there.

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So, thank you very much again for allowing us to come into your meeting.

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And that's me at

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all.

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Mr. President, Mr. President, my point of personal privilege, please.

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Tony, I just wanted to make mention that you may want to say a word or two about, I know your

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friend, and I, who was just passed, who I'm used to seeing here in Nick Viglion, who was,

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yeah, who was a World War II hero and veteran, and I wanted to acknowledge him and his knowledge

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is passing.

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Yeah, he's been a big asset to the Federation.

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Yeah, it's, I'm so used to seeing him there with you.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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Thank you, Mike.

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Thank you, Mike.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The remaining.

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Mr. President, if I may, I'll let the record show the Councilman draws and Councilman

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Green Hawkins or President.

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7171-13, right?

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Is that the one right?

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Yeah.

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First.

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What's your automobile here?

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I think so.

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Is he here?

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Is he here, man?

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Oh, there he is.

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Oh, man, man.

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I'm sorry about that idea.

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OK, ready?

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Yeah.

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This is what I had to do.

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And I, and the reason being, this, you know,

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I wanted to get the ball legal here, but, you know,

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they're out there soaring above the ball,

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forging for food, but it's important, and I'll tell you why it's important.

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Baldi equals a very distinct bird in many ways, and it only chooses selectively

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where it nests and where it rests, and two of them, you know, chose to rest right

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over here.

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All you have to do is go along that trail between here and homestead area, and you look

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up on the side, and you'll see two of the most magnificent birds you've ever seen.

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In fact, the fellow sent me the picture of them taking off, soaring through, and whatever it may be.

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And I think we have to recognize this, recognize these kind of things.

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We talk about so many areas about pollution, this, that, whatever.

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But this is a testimony not only to them, but to us.

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In the essence that they chose to make their nest here in the most livable city, one of the most livable cities,

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and they show that that is one of the most livable cities in the country.

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If you get a chance, go take a bite, take your kids, and you look up on that hill, and you'll

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see two of the most beautiful birds you've ever seen in your life, through the bald

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eagles.

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We're as, whether silhouette against the sky on a rock, pinnacle, or soaring majestically

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overhead, the bald eagle is a mile as one of nature's most spectacular creatures.

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And the recovery of the bald eagle has been one of the great wildlife conservation stories

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in the history of Allegheny County, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and the nation.

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And whereas, lower productivity resulting from the pesticides, DDT, and other contaminants,

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shooting, disturbance, and habitat destruction contributed to decline in the bald eagle population in Pennsylvania.

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After the 1972 Environmental Protection Agency banned a DDT, the bald eagle population began to recover,

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and it was removed from the federal list of threatened and endangered species in 2007.

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In Pennsylvania, the bald eagle is considered a threatened species,

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and protected under the game and wildlife code.

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And we're asked today, thanks to recovery efforts bald eagles are nesting across the state

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and in places where they have not nested in decades right here.

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Bald Eagles, non-habited 56 of 67 counties in a state wide, and continues to expand their

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range, including this year's establishment of the City of Pittsburgh's hay site located

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on the Mnonga-Hella River.

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The second year, a successful nesting on private property along to a higher river, in

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crescent tonship, and in a nest with in view of the Allegheny River in harm or tonship.

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The Bald Eagles in Allegheny County joined what are now more than, and this is only 250

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be nesting pairs in the state. We got about six of them I would estimate here. We're

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as a president.

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President, this med, majestic raptor in Allegheny County represents the health of a whole echo system, particularly

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the improvement of water quality and the habitat bordering our three rivers. Now, therefore,

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be it resolved that Allegheny County does hereby thank the Audubon Society of Western Pennsylvania.

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And by the way, don't forget the Avery across the way here. Go see it. We've got one of the best in

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the country. Believe me, we do. And a lot of people don't realize it. In fact, if you get a chance,

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go underneath where the veterinarian takes care of those birds in very, very tender,

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labor-care.

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With a Pennsylvania gang condition to protect these national symbols, and their natural habitat,

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thereby ensuring that their presence of generations of elegant economy residents to

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come.

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I come from the Civil Valley, man.

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I've never seen this.

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I want us to go.

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I've seen a lot of smoke stacks when I was a kid.

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I've seen a lot of smoke going through there.

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This is the first time I've seen two bald eagles, and I had to say something.

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I think we all need to say something.

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This is a testimony to our region.

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our state, our city, and especially our people of Allegheny County.

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Thank you very much.

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Well, on behalf of the more than 5,000 autobond members of South Western Pennsylvania,

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and the dozens of volunteers who spent hours countless hours out,

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photographing and watching these birds, and the eight birds that now call Allegheny County

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their home, we thank you for this proclamation.

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As Constantine Droz mentioned, the bald eagle was still listed as a threatened species in Pennsylvania, but not for long.

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Right now, the game commission is considering downlisting that and removing it from the threatened status, which is a fantastic story.

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It's a combination of decades of work and something we should all be proud of.

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The other thing to be proud of is how many people turned out and got excited over these eagles.

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Every time we went down, we would announce we'd go down with spotty scopes or binoculars.

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200 people would show up.

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And these aren't your hardcore burders.

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This was just about everybody else in the community got excited.

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Took ownership over it.

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And the website we set up for them on Facebook had 1.7 million hits.

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So they're exciting.

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People are excited to see them here and look forward to them again.

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They're still down there.

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I know you're going to ask, you can still get out and see them down.

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Thank you.

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The remaining proclamations will be read into the record.

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777313 proclamation recognizing the month of October 2013 is domestic violence awareness

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month in elegant county sponsored by council members.

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Ellen Boge and Byron.

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Thank you.

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The phasioed rose.

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Finity for Tullis.

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Green Hawkins.

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Harris.

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Hyde Obalm.

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Macy.

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Martoni.

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Pomerry.

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Ray.

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And Robinson.

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777413.

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Proclamation.

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of graduating, graduating of the Braddock Community Mail Corps,

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upon the occasion of the 63rd anniversary,

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sponsored by Councilman Martoni.

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7775, 13th Proclamation, welcoming Reverend Dr. Vincent K. Campbell,

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as a new pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church

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in the Hill District, sponsored by Councilman Robinson.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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This time it gives me great pleasure to introduce the county executive

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Rich Fitzgerald for the 2014 budget.

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Thank you Mr. President and members of Council, glad to be here tonight.

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It seems like I was just here. I guess I was, just last meeting. It's good to be back.

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Spensive many nights here and it's always good to be here.

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So here I am to present the comprehensive fiscal plan for 2014 and would ask it after I'm done to place the item on the agenda.

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for your consideration.

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This is my second budget address since becoming county executive and want to recap just a

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few things.

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And while we've had many, a number of challenges, we've also had a number of successes.

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And I think those should be pointed out and you can take a lot of pride in those.

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First of all, with an $800 million budget, just a 2% to 3% increase in inflation, whether

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it be wages, whether it be supplies that we buy, means we start the year every year with

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about $16 to $24 million more that we've got to make up from the previous year.

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And that makes, obviously, makes it very challenging, particularly a light of the fact

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that the only funding source counties are given by Harrisburg is property tax.

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And, you know, with them.

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I want to pretty good good good line on that and I'll talk about that in just a minute. One of the things we can be proud of is that the bond rating by standard importers was upgraded just this last summer, and that's a testament testimony to the work we've done together, your work as well as the administration.

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Part of that was due to the fact that we grew the fund balance.

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From last year at 5.7 million to 12.2 million dollars this year.

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And hopefully, if we can hold the line, again this year,

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we'd like to get that up in the area of maybe 18 to 20 million dollars at the end of the year.

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Part of that was because Council appropriated 2 million dollars more.

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Into the fund balance, our quote unquote, Rainy Day of Con.

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If you will, and that's one of the things we're going to be asking again this year

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the CFP is an additional $2 million to put towards a fund balance. As you know, in an $800

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million budget, we should have 5% in the rainy day fund, the fund balance, that would

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be $40 million. So we're heading in the right direction, but as you can see, we still

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have a ways to go. The bond issuance, glad the report, that in addition to the savings to

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the county, we're also able to issue less debt than we're retiring this year. That's

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The first time that we've been able to do that in a decade, and while there's a smaller

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amount of capital, we're being very prudent in our spending and these steps reflect

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a commitment to manage our debt and be fiscally responsible.

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I just before I move on, I want to give a special thanks to the County Manager County Manager

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McCain, budget director Feng when the budget department who really worked diligently over

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the year to hold the line with the budget and also in preparing the budget that we're

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presenting here tonight.

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You know, we've been taking some very, very proactive steps to try to try to find savings

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and efficiency to not have to increase property tax.

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We did it dependent health care audit that the county manager brought to us and it saved

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over a million dollars in taking people off of our health care that should not have been

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on it.

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With Council's assistance, we started updating some fees, some fees that hadn't been adjusted

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in decades for permits, with public works, the medical examiner's office, and other areas.

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We continue, we're going to continue to try to identify new revenue streams to reduce the

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reliance on property tax. Some of those who involve fee, some of those who involve naming

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rights, some of those who involve opportunities that we see in some of our venues will continue

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to do that. And then the ongoing monitoring of the nonprofit organizations that we began

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earlier this year, 86% of the parcels have already submitted their documents and the law

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department is going through those and the home state exemptions. I know this was something

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we've been concerned about over the past few years people double dipping. 3,500 parcels have

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been removed from the double dipping of home state exemption and resulting in nearly $300,000 in

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additional tax revenue to the county. Let me talk about the operating budget. We'll move into

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why we're here. We do it a realistic achievable budget that has been balanced. The operating

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budget is going to be 817.3 million dollars that we are proposing. That's a little over 2%

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increase and I am going to be proposing that there is no millaging increase. So for the 12th time

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in 13 years, if this budget passes without a millaging increase and I don't have a agreement with

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everybody, I think, or might be one member of our council that disagrees, but if we have no

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millaging increase, it'll be the 12th time in 13 years that we haven't had a millaging

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increase.

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We are also going to be putting forth a budget that has no one-time revenue sources for the

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second consecutive year.

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We talked about that being one of the core values that we wanted to do, and really the

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2.2% is just inflationary dealing with wage increase, collective bargaining, and supply

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inflation that basically is happening with 2%. Let me put this in perspective a little bit.

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Back in 2002, the typical $100,000 house in Allegheny County, $100,000 property paid

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$422 in county property tax. Next year, in 2014, the 13th year since that happened if this

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budget passes without a millaging increase, that same homeowner will be paying $483 in

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property taxes. That's a 14.4% increase over 13 years, 1.1% per year, well below inflation.

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Something we can be very proud of as far as holding the line. I don't know of any other

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government at the federal, state, or local level that can match that record. And we're going

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to continue, at least that's my philosophy, and I know it's here.

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By many members of council, to try to hold the line on property tax, because we've seen the results of that over the last 13 years.

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This county, Allegheny County, is the only county in the country that has had an increase in property values every year for the last five years.

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And I think stabilizing property taxes is a big reason why we've been able to achieve that.

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So again, it's a plan.

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We want to work with you on, but we're hopeful that we can hold a line another year on property

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tax and continue to find efficiencies and other revenues to fund the operation.

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I want to highlight just a few of the things that we've been able to do and some of the things

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that are in the CFP that we're presenting tonight.

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Some of the things you've already seen with LED lights and some of the efficiencies on energy

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savings around their facilities around the county that continue to continue to bring us

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operating savings and we're going to continue to do that. I also want to talk a little

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bit about human services and what we're doing permits our CYF and our human service department

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to maximize the state funding that's approved by the annual needs-based budget allocation in

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September, a very proud to note that CYF commemorated a significant anniversary, 50 years of providing

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public child welfare services for the residents of this county, along with a very strong network,

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a strong network of partners of nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and other organizations

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that are helping our children to most deserve. DHS, our Department of Human Services serves over

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200,000 residents per year, and again, it's a huge commitment that we make to try to make

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folks better in this region.

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You will note in the budget, when you take a look at it, there were three departments

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that show a little bit of an increase over what would be normal.

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Those are human resources, law, and budget.

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And the reason for that is some of what we've been able to do is shift some people,

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some of the grant writing people who've been in other departments over into the budget

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department to try to maximize the amount of grants we're able to get with the state.

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When somebody's doing it just in a specific department, they're not necessarily looking

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at grants.

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For example, if they're in public safety, they're not looking for grants that might be in public

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works or human services.

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So moving the grant writer over into the budget department will help.

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The law department is going up and that's part and parcel of what we're doing when we're

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doing the non-profits reviews that we talked about, the tax exam properties, is an immense amount

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of data to go through, to go through all those properties.

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So we thought that adding some increased investment there would help pay some dividends with

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more revenues in the coming years.

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And then on the human services, or excuse me, human resources department, one of the things

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we've had over the years has been inconsistencies with respect to FMLA, with respect to wages,

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with respect to promotions, firings, all the different type of things that we do, benefits,

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moving that into the HR department, we'll allow us to have more consistency and, again,

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find savings and efficiencies across departments, even though that department might go off.

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So when you see that, that's the reason for that.

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One of the things the HR department has been able to do, and I think I mentioned this a couple

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weeks ago when I was here, they're doing online applications now, and they've already

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received over a thousand through the website in the first couple of weeks that they've had

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this, and our number of paper applications has shrunk to just a handful.

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So again, we're looking for efficiencies and improving those operations.

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They have a worker's compensation function now under the HR and again, that's also to help monitor some of the things that we talked about.

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A couple of other items you'll see in the budget that skew the numbers a little bit.

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The CFP will show a 911 increase of about 73%.

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That doesn't mean they're spending 73% more money.

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What it means is we don't have the offsetting revenue that we've had before with landlines and cell phone lines.

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So we've got to take more money from the general operating budget to fund the 911 center.

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We've talked about that in the past, it's something we've got to deal with at the state.

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We're saving a lot of money for municipalities out there, but if the municipalities, if we can't figure out a way to do this, we might have to come up with another funding formula.

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So this is something we're going to continue to monitor and continue to work with you on.

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The capital budget, we're going to be introducing a capital budget of a slightly over $50 million.

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A lot of this will be for our infrastructure and capital improvement projects.

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We've got a bridge program of about 6.19 million.

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Oh, that's $50 million.

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Not 30 million will be bonds that we take out in the county, the rest will be matching money that

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we get from the state and federal government and other sources. That also includes in

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our bridge project, as I mentioned, about 6.19 in the bridges, and that will include about

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a 1.7 million dollar amount in Act 13, Highway Bridge Funding from the States, more cell-ish

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yellow legacy fund regarding deteriorating bridges in the county. It includes some of the bridges

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in all of your districts, the ten-street bridge, the Thompson Run, Dukers Hollow Bridge, and

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our three sister bridges here in the county, which have been very prominently displayed.

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I might add over the last few days as our baseball team has been getting a lot of national attention,

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and that backdrop of those beautiful bridges is something that we want to be very proud of.

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And we are. Rose program, we're talking about $18 million in our roads and facilities improvement,

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including some major paving projects along Power Hill Road, Greensburg Pike, and Campbell's

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Rod Road.

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We're also going to be funding in the capital budget around $9 million, $9.8 million for

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the port authority that will be improvements and upgrades to fix facilities and fleets.

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It will also include a $1 million investment for planning, design, and construction of a

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bus rapid transit link between downtown Pittsburgh and Oakland as we begin that project.

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And I think that will be a very, very successful project for this region to continue.

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And then we'll have a $4 million in equipment purchases.

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Let me just talk about moving forward in the next couple of years, some of the new programs.

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We want to do, we want to do a pilot program with online reservations for shelters and

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grows in our county parks that should be launched by the end of the year.

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Our intent is to try to move as cashless and as easy for people to pay as possible, so that they can pay online,

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they can pay with credit card, previously in departments where they'd have to show up with cash or a cashier's check,

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and we want to make it easy for people.

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One other initiative I want to talk about is the ski slopes at Boyce Park.

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We've continued to lose money on that operation because we don't get the snow making in time for the

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peak season, which is in December, and we've been running a deficit there, probably close to

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a half a million dollars a year. We're going to be entering into a contract in a public

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private partnership. County manager is going to be doing that within the next few days for

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specialized service of snowmaking with the intent of keeping that open and keeping that operating

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throughout the year. It's something where we'll be able to free up employees who have been

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basically standing around or working on that project,

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but they were taken from other parts of the parks.

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Now they'll be redeployed into the parks

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to be able to do some of the deferred maintenance

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that we have been looking to do.

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And we're hoping that that will result in a savings

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of close to $300,000 in being able to keep that operation running.

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And again, it's a specialized function.

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It's not an everyday function like paving roads

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or maintaining our buildings.

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You know, there's probably only a handful in its whole state and it's just not something that, you know, we focus on it's a very specialized, specialized operation.

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So that is the budget plan that I'm going to be presenting to you.

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Look forward to working with you and Chairman Robinson over the next few months as we scrub the budget go through the items.

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You know, answer questions, take some input that you might have on various departments and agencies that we, that we fund and want to take a look at funding and look forward to working with you on it.

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Mr. President, if you'd like to take any questions, anybody might have on the budget.

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Any questions for the executive?

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Yes.

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I just have one comment and I know, Congressman Finner is here that I've been sitting up here for six years.

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talking about what you're doing in Floyd's Park and before me, Mike, carried it towards

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so we're glad we live to see it, so thank you.

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We're going to find out if I'll successful we can be, and it's interesting because we've

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got two major ski operations that are going to be combined in the ones.

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You wonder what kind of competition that's going to have for people of Western Pennsylvania?

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This is an option.

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And I know we're not being our aspirin or certainly seven springs, but it's a nice key

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operation for people, particularly beginners to go out and learn and have a nice day

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and be able to do it in a very affordable cost.

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It's just I had to bring it to your attention because we love when we're right.

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You do not.

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It's kind of an Irish thing.

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It was your idea, Jimmy.

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I'll tell you.

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No, actually it was Mike, but he said it was better than I thought.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You know, I've always been one and I know you do too, I don't like Christ.

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I want to be more proactive instead of reactive. And I've always asked the controller, prior years, to give me a five-year projection, and ten-year projection, where we are, where that cash flow line's going, where it line meets. And maybe you could elaborate a little bit because it was, you know, a little bit of inference to consman Robinson's comments on that 50 million that he keeps pointing to. And I'd like to have your input on that, where that may be, and where those lines,

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cross. You know, we're in what year given no more revenues and our expenses are stable with

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that 2% increase. Where does that line cross and what how much is that line when it crosses?

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I mean, is it what Councilman Robinson is projecting at the 50 million mark? Is it something

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less or maybe you can give it a little more insight on that? Let me just say, one mill, if we

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would increase one-millimeter every one-mill that we love on property in Allegheny County, brings

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in approximately $60 million.

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So if we are in the hole, if you will, or behind with that percentage, $20 million a year,

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you would see that like every three years we would be $60 million short, and that would be

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a one-mill increase.

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So it's our job, all of us, to try to make that go as long as we can.

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It's not going to go indefinitely.

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I think the fact that we did it only one time in the last 13 years is pretty significant.

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So if we can find other revenues and there's areas of examples that we've talked about,

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and the county manager brings them to you all the time.

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And other efficiencies, other savings that we can make, and other areas where we can tap into.

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And let me give you two other examples.

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The other challenge with this is we've seen with the state and federal government have done over the last few years.

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So that exacerbates that whole that we talk about because they have made cutbacks on things like human services, CDBG, public safety grants.

443
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,840
Other things that we've received, public works over the years.

444
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:16,460
So that adds to the local burden on the property tax people in Allegheny County.

445
00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:22,000
And let me say, we're not immune to this, but they're county last year, increased their

446
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,100
taxes one million.

447
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:28,280
Indiana County raised those five mills last year, and our strong county raised those two

448
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,520
mills.

449
00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:30,160
These are counties right around us.

450
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,700
Again, and this is an criticism of them that they have no other option, but property

451
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:35,060
tax.

452
00:52:35,060 --> 00:52:39,100
So we don't raise property tax with inflation,

453
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:42,540
the way other taxes and other fees are raised, sales tax,

454
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:45,420
income tax, wage tax, all those other taxes

455
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:47,220
that the state and the federal government get,

456
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,920
they automatically go up every year with inflation.

457
00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:51,700
Property tax does not.

458
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,620
We did an inflationary increase a couple of years ago,

459
00:52:54,940 --> 00:52:57,460
and I would like to forestall doing another one

460
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,780
as long as we can.

461
00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:02,740
I think that's true.

462
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:07,100
There are a couple times in this country including the deaths that's facing the youth

463
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:11,100
of tomorrow and it's scary, very, very scary.

464
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:11,860
Thank you.

465
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,320
Thank you.

466
00:53:12,620 --> 00:53:12,940
Thank you.

467
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:13,500
Thank you, Madam Heather.

468
00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:14,880
Thanks, Richard.

469
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,900
I want to go out of Dallon, Bogion, because I want to piggyback on the parks at Voicepark.

470
00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:25,100
We, I don't know if you mentioned about it, but we're talking about actually doubling the

471
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:25,980
size of the season.

472
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:36,820
I'm as much from 30 days to possibly 70 in the parks, and I actually learned a ski at Boys Park when I was a youngster.

473
00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:41,160
And I remember skiing there on Thanksgiving Day.

474
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:51,860
I've never seen our park open Thanksgiving Day since then, but I believe that we're going to have a shot in the local economy, all of these ski rental places,

475
00:53:51,860 --> 00:53:56,640
the store selling skis. It's not just going to benefit us with the county, but the surrounding

476
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:02,780
area as well and giving young kids the opportunity to ski more than they possibly have been

477
00:54:02,780 --> 00:54:06,760
in the past few years. I think it's just a great idea and hopefully this works out very well

478
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,440
for all of us. Thank you. Thank you. Heather and then Mr. Burns.

479
00:54:12,610 --> 00:54:13,710
Thank you for coming before

480
00:54:13,710 --> 00:54:19,750
us Mr. Fitzgerald. I'm glad to hear that your plan is not to raise taxes this year. As you had

481
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:23,570
promised us over the last year, so I'm very happy to hear that.

482
00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:24,890
I don't recall making that promise,

483
00:54:24,970 --> 00:54:27,810
it's a cost of one, but if we're glad to be able to do it.

484
00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:33,750
The one question I have in a little bit of surprise is a $1 million

485
00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:41,870
plant expenditure for the Port Authority to study, and I don't want to

486
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:46,010
paraphrase you incorrectly, but an expansion from downtown to Oakland.

487
00:54:46,450 --> 00:54:48,130
Can you please expand on this?

488
00:54:48,130 --> 00:54:58,170
I think that many of us here in Allegheny County were exhausted by the process of the T-going

489
00:54:58,170 --> 00:54:59,970
underneath Stan Wood Street.

490
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,260
We agreed underneath the river. We were all made various promises by the state and federal government.

491
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:15,540
We, the county, were required to provide more income, more revenue than we originally were led to believe.

492
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:24,760
So where are we going with this? I mean, if we're going to spend a million dollars, there's obviously some foresight here that we're going to commit.

493
00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:28,460
Are we going to commit ourselves to building something between downtown and Oakland?

494
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:33,700
Well, let me back up for, you know, I think you're talking about the subway expansion under the

495
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:39,080
river, and actually we committed $12 little over $12 million, and that's all we ever spent.

496
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,120
While the cost kept going up, the federal government came in and picked up the lion's share.

497
00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:49,520
It became about a $500 million project, and I would argue that it's been extremely successful.

498
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,180
The amount of growth and the amount of development that continues over under the North Shore.

499
00:55:55,180 --> 00:56:03,420
I think you can directly attribute a lot of that to linking rail, linking mass transit in the rail system over there.

500
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:08,700
I think there's no question as we become a younger and younger community, a younger county.

501
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,340
The young people that are moving in here really want transit. That's a huge issue.

502
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:19,300
One of the problems has always been the lack of connectivity between downtown and Oakland.

503
00:56:19,820 --> 00:56:24,020
We have a couple different options. One is to do light rail owners, a lot of people that would like to do light rail.

504
00:56:24,020 --> 00:56:31,720
Light rail would probably cost about two to two and a half billion dollars and it would be a lot of disruption in building the rail line from from downtown Pittsburgh

505
00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:40,240
To Oakland and probably would take 15 to 20 years, which is pretty much what it took to do the subway expansion over into the North Shore

506
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:43,700
With Cleveland has been able to do and we took a trip in June

507
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:48,300
with about 30 or 40 stake holders from the business community,

508
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,780
from the elegant conference to the Pittsburgh downtown partnership,

509
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,460
the Oakland Business District,

510
00:56:54,980 --> 00:56:59,120
which lay them was able to do in their connectivity between downtown

511
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,420
and their as-in-med facility,

512
00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:03,520
which is very similar to our Oakland and downtown Pittsburgh.

513
00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:07,660
They've built theirs for about $200 million and did it in,

514
00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:08,700
I think, three or four years.

515
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,200
And the amount of development, private sector development,

516
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:17,900
that occurred along a lighted area, which is very similar to our upton area, through

517
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:21,520
Fifth Avenue and Forbes Avenue, was over $5 billion.

518
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:29,080
And I think if we can build something similar for that kind of money, I think it would enhance

519
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
our economy in a great measure.

520
00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:38,040
It would add to the property values all along that area, including the values in downtown and

521
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:38,820
the values in Oakland.

522
00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:41,760
and it would add to jobs, it would add to development.

523
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:47,940
So we're going to be making or asking to make a million dollar investment into the planning

524
00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:53,840
into getting it started so that we can access other monies from the state federal in the

525
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,680
foundation community.

526
00:57:54,980 --> 00:57:56,040
I have one follow up question.

527
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,080
Have you spoken with our federal representatives in regard to funding a federal the federal

528
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:01,440
pieces?

529
00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:02,360
Absolutely.

530
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,860
We've been meeting with them all the time.

531
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:06,280
So they're very familiar with what we're doing here.

532
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,760
So you've been meeting with who?

533
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,160
We've been meeting with a whole lot of stakeholders,

534
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,860
Councilwoman, we've been meeting with federal officials,

535
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,540
state officials, business owners, labor unions,

536
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:21,180
nonprofit organizations, the big health care facilities,

537
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,700
the big downtown business owners, a myriad of stakeholders.

538
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Including members of Council, we took members of Council,

539
00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:30,820
invited members of Council to the trip

540
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:34,860
when we went to Cleveland, and the folks in Cleveland

541
00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:40,940
Who have had this now for the last couple years reviewed this as well with our folks.

542
00:58:41,180 --> 00:58:47,000
I don't want to take any more time here today, but I'll send you a letter and perhaps I can request some of the information.

543
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:48,120
You've already gathered.

544
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,860
We'll be glad to set up a meeting and get you all the information on the plans.

545
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,080
Thank you, Mr. Bern.

546
00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:01,720
My question is about the open-down kind of connection.

547
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:08,220
I just want to direct up what you said in the time I've got this question.

548
00:59:10,180 --> 00:59:17,100
It's good to see this happening when I was on the 44th and your predecessor had put a group

549
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:18,760
to get a call to train as an action team.

550
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:25,360
The group of us led by Dave Hicken made some recommendations to the count.

551
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:30,780
And one of them was to improve the connectivity between the ads and the ads over and over.

552
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:36,060
down on Pittsburgh and across the one aware of that study. One of the

553
00:59:37,340 --> 00:59:41,500
busiest corridors in the state of Pennsylvania, the zero-aware, is the

554
00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:44,700
Oakland Pittsburgh connection. One of the most bottleneck and most difficult

555
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:49,040
things is to travel. I think your point to Heather is absolutely

556
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,960
spawn for every dollar and I don't talk for her to be in a man that

557
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,500
can attest this to me. I heard it is 44 report members and I seem to take this here.

558
00:59:57,500 --> 00:59:58,680
It's very dull.

559
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,960
Public monies used for transportation recognized in a minimum three dollars a part of the sector investment. I think it's spot on them and we'll wait ahead of the curve on the North Shore Connector project. All the money to the governments that you've seen on the North side is in no small part of triggerable to the business owners and their understanding that there's going to be accessibility seen there through the connector and anybody you've seen. But we've seen in the last month and particular notes that there haven't been any complaints from the folks that have been over

560
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,240
are making use of those amenities and doing those great bulkills.

561
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,360
This is another one of those conversations.

562
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,220
The economic ripple effect that you are going to bring to this region, and this kind of

563
01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:44,660
ring to this region, like developing this, at the price that you're saying that it's going

564
01:00:44,660 --> 01:00:46,300
to be done is remarkable.

565
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,100
We're going to see the economic ripple effect of every dollar of public money.

566
01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:51,940
I would say it's going to be more than three weeks.

567
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,800
It might be higher than five in my content, but this is one of the components of that point,

568
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,580
And we get down on the road and we presented it to them six or seven years ago.

569
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,460
I've been waiting to see come to fruition, and I just wanted to say that it's an area you

570
01:01:06,460 --> 01:01:10,940
see it as part of your plan for the future, and we have one of them going to see if we can

571
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:16,880
make an economic revenue generation, if that adds much to anything else that you need to

572
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:17,420
share in it.

573
01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:19,000
Thank you, Councilman.

574
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:24,280
Let me also point out that the Rockefeller Foundation, a foundation of New York City identified

575
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,140
Pittsburgh is one of only four cities in a country that was, you know, perfectly situated

576
01:01:29,140 --> 01:01:31,920
for BRT and are helping us along those lines.

577
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:37,700
And you're right, we've got downtown Pittsburgh and Oakland, our two biggest job employment

578
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:42,600
centers in the region and the second and third biggest in the state and there's no question

579
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:49,540
at downtown, the vibrancy of downtown continues to grow, the new skyscraper that's adding

580
01:01:49,540 --> 01:01:56,660
jobs for PNC and other skyscrapers, the market at gardens at fifth market. All these are

581
01:01:56,660 --> 01:02:00,620
going to add continued add buildings. We just can't continue to park cars. It's just

582
01:02:00,620 --> 01:02:05,920
not enough room and we need to get a way to move people very efficiently as we become

583
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:12,220
an absolutely major employment center here and a BRT would really add to that.

584
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:14,260
Anyone else?

585
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,760
Yeah, I think I have a mic.

586
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,140
Everybody else.

587
01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:21,020
Thank you for being here today.

588
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:23,300
Rich appreciate that.

589
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,200
I'd just like to say that when we go to the Oakland downtown

590
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,860
Loops that hopefully will come to be.

591
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,480
From the vision team, which I was part of, that was one of our big

592
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,220
recommendations coming out of that vision team that you

593
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,820
We've got together there and I think it's extremely important for the well-being of our

594
01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:53,680
area that we have, and in some type of truance that's going to be able to get people from

595
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:59,820
Oakland to downtown with under 10 minutes time, I mean it would be a great thing.

596
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:07,380
We've seen what the T has done for the South Hills area and for the downtown area.

597
01:03:07,380 --> 01:03:13,380
I mean, it's tremendous. More people than ever come downtown from my area now.

598
01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:22,980
I also, at a different point, would like to make is that, you know, every year, the budget gets more difficult and more difficult to balance.

599
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:30,820
As we get cut by the state, by the federal government.

600
01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:37,320
Just the human services, and I was chairman of human services, what, seven years ago now, I guess.

601
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:45,740
That budget, when I was chairman of it, was 1.6 billion dollars at that time.

602
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:52,720
Right now, I don't know what it is today, but I know what it was in 2012 and 2013.

603
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,680
It was about 860 million.

604
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:04,780
That's tremendous cut. Human services, people that need help, in every year it seems that

605
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:12,500
we get a 16% kind of board. Community development, the same way, 16% and 20% every

606
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:19,640
year. Community development helps communities that don't have the money to do something.

607
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:27,900
either put sidewalks in or handicapped accessible or fixed playgrounds, something on that order.

608
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:34,040
The community develops and important, very important for the communities that I represent,

609
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,680
especially in the case of Rockson's stove.

610
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:43,880
So these are some of the things that we have every year put up with.

611
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:53,900
and we try to make sure that we can still provide services to our people on the same level.

612
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:59,760
It's not easy, but it's something that I compliment the budget people for.

613
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,560
tremendous job, and chief executive for doing that. At the same time, as the chief executive

614
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:15,460
has stated that we've only raised taxes, one meal, one time, in 13 years, be able to maintain

615
01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:24,180
this. Sometimes we were taking money from this and putting it over there and fudging everything

616
01:05:24,180 --> 01:05:31,860
run but we managed to do it. We're not doing that anymore. We're not one timing anymore. This is

617
01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:37,960
our budget and I also would like to change the subject for a second and say, I believe that in

618
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:44,220
your budget, you will have a projection for five years. My name is Staking. I think I've seen

619
01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:52,780
that every year. I've looked in there and it's five. Yeah. Okay. I thought so. Okay. Thank you very much.

620
01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:54,800
I appreciate your work.

621
01:05:55,740 --> 01:05:57,820
Yeah, just as maybe as a last note.

622
01:05:58,660 --> 01:06:03,880
Overall, the employees of this county all got approximately a 2% or more phrase plus the health care.

623
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,860
There are 16 people in this county that did not get a raise.

624
01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:12,260
I was 15 in the man standing at the podium.

625
01:06:13,180 --> 01:06:16,020
I just want to make that public record that we did not get a raise.

626
01:06:16,580 --> 01:06:17,960
Thank you.

627
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:18,680
Barbara?

628
01:06:20,540 --> 01:06:20,980
Yeah,

629
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,600
I'm...

630
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,840
know, there's two sides of budget. You have the revenue side and the expenditure side.

631
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,580
And I applaud the efforts to build the fund balance. I was trying to take notes.

632
01:06:34,980 --> 01:06:39,680
When you started, it was 5.7, 2012, 12.2.

633
01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:44,060
We hope them to get the 18 to 20 this year.

634
01:06:44,540 --> 01:06:46,660
I'm going to let the end of this year or the beginning of next year.

635
01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:55,240
by the end, one more audit it. Okay, and then you talked about the two to three percent inflation just

636
01:06:55,240 --> 01:07:01,280
because we have health care costs and everything else that goes into it so that that

637
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:06,180
cost 16 to 18 million more on the $800 million dollar budget.

638
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,760
Well, 2% of $800 million is 16 million, 3% is 24 million. So yeah somewhere in that range

639
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,240
because that's pretty much what inflation has been over the last 10 to 12 years.

640
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,860
So that's what we've got a project for.

641
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:18,740
No, I agree.

642
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:28,100
My concern is how confident are you of the revenue numbers?

643
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:35,200
I mean, you sort of mentioned new revenue streams and then going back to last year when

644
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,060
everybody was concerned about whether we were going to have a win fall.

645
01:07:38,820 --> 01:07:40,100
Is there a win fall?

646
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,960
Is there not a win fall?

647
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:47,520
a little bit more revenue streams going to look like, you know, because that's if we're

648
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:54,100
going to continue to build the fund balance, and we have, you know, 16 to 18 million more

649
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:58,400
and expenses, I'm not sure I understand how that works.

650
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:04,380
Well, we think this year, and we've identified in the budget, some of the savings we've been

651
01:08:04,380 --> 01:08:11,180
able to make the million dollars and in all of it's the employee health care audit, the

652
01:08:11,180 --> 01:08:16,400
million dollars in the jail, we've done funds in the revenues, you guys increase some revenues

653
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,640
in different departments that have added a couple hundred thousand here, five hundred

654
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,300
thousand here, it adds up to certain amount.

655
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,380
As you know, budgeting is estimates.

656
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,120
There's no, I mean, it's not like you can take that number and it's going to be exactly.

657
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:35,900
You make your best guess with the reassessment and appeals still coming in that makes it

658
01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:40,000
difficult because you're trying to project based on history based on what you anticipate

659
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:46,680
will happen. The budget department warned in his group, and Connie Major McCain, made some

660
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,220
estimates last year to set the middle of the G4.73. They were very close. I mean, there

661
01:08:51,220 --> 01:08:55,480
were some criticisms from people in the media and others who thought it was out of line

662
01:08:55,480 --> 01:09:02,480
that the numbers are following the projections that we saw back in 201 and 202. And those

663
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:07,020
of us who lived through that, remember those days and watched the total valuation go down

664
01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:12,180
as the appeals came in. It seems to be following that similar track. It probably won't be

665
01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:19,340
done until late next year or maybe early in 15. So we think the revenue projections are on.

666
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,820
There is no windfall. Hopefully there's not going to be a deficit on the other side,

667
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:30,260
but it should come in pretty close. And even some of the other estimates that you make on recording fees

668
01:09:30,260 --> 01:09:34,020
and other fees, you never know how that's going to go. And I'll give you one example. When you look

669
01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:37,720
In your budget, you'll see that the sheriff budget is on a significant amount.

670
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,860
It's misleading because what's happening is, he used to collect a lot of fees for mortgage

671
01:09:42,860 --> 01:09:43,660
for closures.

672
01:09:44,420 --> 01:09:48,900
Well, the good news is, mortgage for closures are very low in Allegheny kind.

673
01:09:49,340 --> 01:09:53,340
Well, the offset is we're not collecting the kind of revenues we used to collect on mortgage

674
01:09:53,340 --> 01:09:58,700
for closures, those kind of bankruptcy, so that revenue stream has dwindled to lower than

675
01:09:58,700 --> 01:09:59,380
we would have seen.

676
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,540
All those kind of things happen, and that's something that the county manager and the budget department

677
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:11,960
through many years of experience. I mean, I don't want to count up all the years of war, and if you tell us all the folks in your department, how many years,

678
01:10:12,260 --> 01:10:17,360
but they've been doing this for a long time, and they're usually pretty good and pretty close to what they need to be.

679
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:26,840
I know last year there was some talk from at least one elected official about reopening the budget after the first of the year.

680
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:32,740
You wouldn't see any kind of reason to do that with, you feel very confident about these

681
01:10:32,740 --> 01:10:33,560
revenue estimates.

682
01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:33,960
We do.

683
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,900
We feel very good.

684
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:41,060
I think the last couple of years have been a little more contentious because of the reassessment

685
01:10:41,060 --> 01:10:46,520
but now that that is somewhat settled on, I think we're on a more predictable path.

686
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,380
And I do want to applaud you for not using the one-time revenues.

687
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,700
Good work.

688
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,680
I just want to be a little light and more for the

689
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:02,100
previous audience from constituents that one million dollar study from

690
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:07,160
here to Oakland is that's our portion what's the total study cost

691
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:12,380
the total what study cost well it's not it's it's it's the beginning of

692
01:11:12,380 --> 01:11:16,380
the of the process is basically I guess is the way to do it there is already

693
01:11:16,380 --> 01:11:19,240
been some money that the state has allocated I don't remember the amount

694
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:24,480
And I want to say it's $700,000,000, the federal government has allocated some money as well,

695
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:25,180
some of that.

696
01:11:25,180 --> 01:11:29,240
And I'd have to check with the poor authority, but there has been some money that's already

697
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:29,860
been allocated.

698
01:11:30,020 --> 01:11:35,820
So this is part of our investment in a connection between downtown and Oklahoma.

699
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:41,720
The reason why I bring it up is our investment was done initially when that tunnel was built

700
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,900
way, my understanding was part of that study was to go to Oakland.

701
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:48,700
Surely there must be a study out there somewhere

702
01:11:49,260 --> 01:11:53,800
Why do we have to reinvent the wheel? Let me finish my thoughts. I mean, I finished my thoughts

703
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,460
Why do we have to reinvent the wheel? What can someone do is pick up shelf material and just

704
01:11:58,460 --> 01:12:05,100
Regurgitate it back to us and we're the citizens gonna pay a million dollars plus whatever that's all I'm saying and secondly

705
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:06,200
You know what?

706
01:12:06,460 --> 01:12:15,300
Forget the tunnel we should have went to Oakland and we probably could have went to Airport and paid far less than we paid for that tunnel and maybe even got the North Hills of the same time

707
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:23,140
So now I don't buy that tunnel. What I buy is we should have went to Oakland. We should have went to the airport and then maybe we should have picked up a little bit of northeal

708
01:12:23,140 --> 01:12:29,540
That's my feeling. Well, those decisions got short changed on that one. Those decisions were made and long before any of us were in office

709
01:12:29,540 --> 01:12:34,040
So it's that that ship is sealed, but I I appreciate your your concern

710
01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:40,060
You know, you brought up something that I'm like real familiar with you talking about this time time

711
01:12:40,060 --> 01:12:45,040
Oakland thing and it makes me think about the term back to the future. I was born in Oakland

712
01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:48,880
And when this city had 700 plus 1,000 people in it,

713
01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:51,900
that's how people got to, from downtown to open every day,

714
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,060
hundreds of thousands of people using trolleys.

715
01:12:54,820 --> 01:12:57,880
I mean, you have community issues up there.

716
01:12:58,260 --> 01:12:59,980
There's neighborhoods that live up there.

717
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:06,260
You saw it happen when they wiped out North Shore to the E Street Valley.

718
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,140
So one of the things, I mean, that I asked myself,

719
01:13:10,220 --> 01:13:12,840
because I mean, even in my own photo,

720
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,940
problems for my family, you see the trolleys in them, are we overthinking this? Does this have

721
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:23,420
to be some kind of a massive construction type of thing, or can we just put the tracks

722
01:13:23,420 --> 01:13:27,980
back down and get those fancy trolleys and just run them back and forth up or like they did

723
01:13:27,980 --> 01:13:29,620
for a freaking 100 years in the city?

724
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:34,760
Well, those are some of the details that the engineers and the traffic consumers know.

725
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:40,760
Certainly know it better than I do, but it's a pretty collaborative process.

726
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:49,780
You might say, the tracks are right here, just take up the answer box, I'll pass that along to the folks at the port of the port.

727
01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:52,840
Let me just, I'm sorry.

728
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:56,160
I just want to say one more thing.

729
01:13:56,260 --> 01:13:59,280
I know there was some talk over the last couple of days.

730
01:13:59,620 --> 01:14:05,260
I guess one member of your body indicated that they wanted to raise taxes one mill.

731
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,360
So the questions came to me was, I'm going to raise taxes tonight.

732
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,780
I wouldn't answer the question.

733
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:16,660
I wouldn't reveal that to the media because I wanted this console in this body to hear it first.

734
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,260
I don't want you to hear it through the media.

735
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,140
I didn't want you to hear it through a press release.

736
01:14:22,340 --> 01:14:23,980
So it wasn't that I was being evasive.

737
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,400
It wasn't that I wasn't afraid to answer the question.

738
01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:32,160
It was that this body deserves to hear the comprehensive fiscal plan before others.

739
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:37,140
So that's kind of why I was not, I'm not answering that question in a certain way.

740
01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:39,000
that I wanted to be able to present it to you.

741
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,260
I wanted to present it to the President and the Budget Chair and the members of the Council

742
01:14:43,260 --> 01:14:48,320
so that you here, you know, from us, from me and the County Manager and my administration

743
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,220
is to what we are putting forth in the comprehensive fiscal plan.

744
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:53,100
Thank you.

745
01:14:53,180 --> 01:14:54,380
Thank you for the presentation.

746
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,580
At this time, I'd like to turn the budget you're presenting over to a Budget and Finance

747
01:14:59,580 --> 01:14:59,860
Committee.

748
01:15:00,050 --> 01:15:03,910
Sure, if I missed the Robinson, okay? Okay, Bill?

749
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:07,810
And we'll pass out the documents.

750
01:15:08,710 --> 01:15:09,670
So, thank you.

751
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:12,850
Thank you. Thank you, members of the council. We look forward to working with you over the next couple of minutes.

752
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,820
That's all I do.

753
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:43,420
How you doing?

754
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,060
You don't have your boots tomorrow.

755
01:15:46,420 --> 01:15:47,120
You're like, okay.

756
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:47,880
Yes, man.

757
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:49,080
You might not do anything.

758
01:15:49,180 --> 01:15:49,920
Yeah, you don't want to leave.

759
01:15:50,180 --> 01:15:50,640
You stay here.

760
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,660
You stay black.

761
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,400
You don't want to leave.

762
01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:53,400
I work.

763
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:53,560
I work.

764
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:54,480
I work.

765
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:54,860
Yeah.

766
01:16:02,860 --> 01:16:03,260
That's.

767
01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:04,560
You told me that before.

768
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,260
As soon as it clears up.

769
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:07,140
Yeah.

770
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:08,700
Yes, man.

771
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,380
Yes, man.

772
01:16:16,820 --> 01:16:20,660
You think that's the case you're always fracking up?

773
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,320
I did.

774
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,220
I said to someone that,

775
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,440
if someone could have benefited from me and budget finance chair,

776
01:16:36,440 --> 01:16:43,340
five hundred million dollars from frackets and jewelry. The county could accrue a

777
01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:51,200
way to your parents at the more implied to consider really. But the more I

778
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,420
learn, the more I hear, the more I'm educated.

779
01:16:56,020 --> 01:17:04,000
The more I wonder about is there

780
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:13,280
they'll give it to this county if we allow them to go back to work, I don't want it.

781
01:17:15,180 --> 01:17:26,860
What I need now, we're back to work now guys, we need a motion to send the budget to the budget and finance committee.

782
01:17:26,860 --> 01:17:29,640
I'll make that move in a second question.

783
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,260
All in favor?

784
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:32,060
Aye.

785
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,300
Opposed, so ordered.

786
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,560
The budget goes to finance committee.

787
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,940
Public comment on agenda items.

788
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,160
We have not, right?

789
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:43,220
Okay.

790
01:17:44,140 --> 01:17:49,860
Approval of minutes, 777-777-638.

791
01:17:50,140 --> 01:17:53,240
Mr. President, when did these bills do

792
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:56,400
the bill?

793
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:56,840
Okay.

794
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:57,080
Go ahead.

795
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:57,800
Sorry about that.

796
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,960
I'm trying to make up for last time.

797
01:18:05,740 --> 01:18:09,220
First of all, this is an ordinance of the County of Allegheny, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

798
01:18:09,220 --> 01:18:13,320
establishing the tax delivery upon all real property, subject to taxation within the limits

799
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,720
of Allegheny County.

800
01:18:17,870 --> 01:18:18,150
That's it.

801
01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:22,810
Why didn't you find Ask committee?

802
01:18:25,970 --> 01:18:29,850
The second one is a resolution of the County of Allegheny, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

803
01:18:29,850 --> 01:18:34,430
adopting an operating budget pursuant to Article 4, Section 2, and Article 7, Section 4

804
01:18:34,430 --> 01:18:39,190
the home more charter by setting forth appropriations to pay expenses of conducting the public

805
01:18:39,190 --> 01:18:43,150
business of Allegheny County and for meeting debt charges for the final year beginning

806
01:18:43,150 --> 01:18:47,770
January 1st 2014 and ending December 31st 2014.

807
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:52,070
Okay.

808
01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:52,550
What's it?

809
01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:55,770
Okay.

810
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,940
Did you get a motion for that current?

811
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:01,560
No.

812
01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:02,620
Put it in the committee.

813
01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:04,040
If I didn't find an ask committee.

814
01:19:07,060 --> 01:19:07,960
I'm getting so much fake.

815
01:19:08,260 --> 01:19:08,680
I don't know.

816
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,160
You know.

817
01:19:10,540 --> 01:19:10,820
Okay.

818
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,940
The third is the resolution of the County Valley Guinea Commonwealth of Pennsylvania adopted a capital

819
01:19:16,940 --> 01:19:20,980
budget for soon to article four section two and article seven section four of the home

820
01:19:20,980 --> 01:19:25,160
more chartered by saying for what the appropriate is to pay the expenses for capital expenditures

821
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:31,960
during the fiscal year beginning January 1, 2014 and descending December 31, 2014.

822
01:19:33,180 --> 01:19:33,780
The

823
01:19:37,170 --> 01:19:41,250
fourth and final one is the resolution of the County Valley Guinea Commonwealth of

824
01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:45,770
Pennsylvania, adopting the grants budget, special counsel budget, and agency fund budget.

825
01:19:46,210 --> 01:19:51,470
By setting forth appropriations to pay set expenses during the fiscal year beginning January

826
01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:55,650
1st, 2014, and ending December 31st, 2014.

827
01:19:55,950 --> 01:19:57,050
Budget and finance committee.

828
01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:02,650
Is that

829
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:05,670
it?

830
01:20:05,770 --> 01:20:06,350
That's it.

831
01:20:07,730 --> 01:20:11,230
Okay, approval of the minutes, 777-613.

832
01:20:12,630 --> 01:20:14,490
Motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting,

833
01:20:14,570 --> 01:20:17,670
regarding any county council, head on September 10, 2013.

834
01:20:18,430 --> 01:20:19,050
So moved.

835
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:20,270
Move to the second.

836
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:22,010
All in favor.

837
01:20:23,050 --> 01:20:23,430
Opposed.

838
01:20:23,970 --> 01:20:24,610
So ordered.

839
01:20:25,150 --> 01:20:26,230
Presentation of appointments.

840
01:20:27,630 --> 01:20:29,710
777-618-13.

841
01:20:29,710 --> 01:20:33,630
Approving the reappointment of James Hammond to serve as a member of the Council

842
01:20:33,630 --> 01:20:39,850
Friends Organization, South Park, Hortongers Park, so if you're 28, 2015 sponsored by Council

843
01:20:39,850 --> 01:20:40,630
Woman Harris.

844
01:20:42,650 --> 01:20:44,270
Thank you, Mr. President.

845
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:51,090
I would ask Council to consider a appointing Mr. Hammond to serve as the Council

846
01:20:51,090 --> 01:20:55,410
Friends on South Park, the Council of Friends Organization.

847
01:20:59,530 --> 01:21:08,450
Second question, all in favor, of course, so ordered, 77769-13.

848
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:11,210
Approving the re-appointment of Dr. Charles T.

849
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:15,330
Bloch's to serve as a member of the Allegheny County property assessment appeals and

850
01:21:15,330 --> 01:21:20,490
review board for a timely supply in December 31st, 2016 sponsored by Councilman Martin.

851
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:27,770
We'll take it to appointment reviews.

852
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,120
777-0-13.

853
01:21:34,820 --> 01:21:38,180
Approving the re-employment of Walter Stimuthke, the service of the member of the retirement

854
01:21:38,180 --> 01:21:43,440
Board of Allegheny County, for turn to expand December 31st, 2017, sponsored by Councilman

855
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:43,880
Robinson.

856
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,480
2nd.

857
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:49,480
Sure, we discuss this since as well.

858
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:54,500
It's the present of my sort of no one's embarrassed.

859
01:21:55,660 --> 01:22:00,540
The budget director of the council is authorized to serve by law.

860
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,720
Mr. Samantha is our budget director.

861
01:22:03,220 --> 01:22:07,520
Just wanted to make that clear so that no one's embarrassed.

862
01:22:07,900 --> 01:22:08,540
Thank you.

863
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:08,960
Thank you.

864
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:10,640
That is true.

865
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:11,400
It is true.

866
01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:13,140
It's good choice, I might say.

867
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:13,820
It is true.

868
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:15,040
Question.

869
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,940
I want to say that Mr. Smansky, I'm very proud that he's going to represent the side.

870
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:28,300
I've served with him and he doesn't, outstanding job, and I know he's going to do an outstanding job wherever we appoint him.

871
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,980
As long as just like many of our staff members, he's asking me.

872
01:22:32,340 --> 01:22:34,000
Okay, roll call.

873
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,700
Do if I roar, you're going to do it by voice, though.

874
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,180
I think I won't call him.

875
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:39,180
Okay, I think I won't call him.

876
01:22:39,180 --> 01:22:39,620
I think I don't call him.

877
01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:39,860
Roll call.

878
01:22:41,260 --> 01:22:42,240
That was my choice.

879
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,260
Mr. Bun.

880
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:44,540
Yes.

881
01:22:44,540 --> 01:22:46,660
Thank you Mr. Fezio.

882
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:47,820
Yes, Mr. Joe's.

883
01:22:48,620 --> 01:22:49,240
Mr. Allen-Bogen.

884
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:50,720
Mr. Finnery.

885
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:52,440
Mr. Paulus. Yes.

886
01:22:52,660 --> 01:22:53,420
Mr. Green Hawkins.

887
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:54,880
Mr. Harris.

888
01:22:55,580 --> 01:22:55,600
Yes.

889
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:56,300
Mr. Heidelball.

890
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:57,600
Mr. Macy.

891
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:58,200
All right.

892
01:22:58,700 --> 01:22:59,460
Mr. Paul Mary.

893
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:00,900
Mr. Ray.

894
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:02,540
Mr. Robinson.

895
01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:03,040
Hi.

896
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:04,920
Mr. Martin in front of me.

897
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:05,240
Yes.

898
01:23:05,380 --> 01:23:07,840
Ice-14. No. Zero Bill Passes.

899
01:23:08,340 --> 01:23:09,420
Unfinished Business.

900
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,340
Unfinished Business Committee on Budget and Finance Second Reading.

901
01:23:13,340 --> 01:23:15,900
7,761-13.

902
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,160
In order to carry value any color of the Pennsylvania establishing new schedules of fees,

903
01:23:20,460 --> 01:23:25,400
charged for services and items rendered and provided by the Allegheny County Department

904
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,800
of Public Works and the Office of the Medical Family's boss is by the Chief Executive.

905
01:23:29,060 --> 01:23:29,580
Mr. Robinson.

906
01:23:30,340 --> 01:23:31,100
Move for approval.

907
01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:31,820
Second.

908
01:23:32,300 --> 01:23:33,060
I have a question.

909
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:34,140
Question.

910
01:23:34,540 --> 01:23:34,660
Yes.

911
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:35,740
Mr. McCain.

912
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,420
Can you, can you, can you know why they're changing, they're increasing the cost of the math,

913
01:23:40,420 --> 01:23:52,180
six hundred percent to six hundred dollars or something like that yeah that's the only one that

914
01:23:52,180 --> 01:23:54,260
seems a bit shocking to me

915
01:23:56,340 --> 01:23:59,720
I really don't care about that I have it I'm not sure if it needs it

916
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,800
you know if a business needs it and the six hundred dollars that's a lot I just don't understand

917
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:12,140
they had said that it was the allocation resources with the with the color printer and

918
01:24:12,140 --> 01:24:17,600
because that's what they wanted in color and even though it has been increased since 2007

919
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,540
it's an enormous amount of time to get that together and to do and they thought that was appropriate.

920
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:30,420
I know this percentage is high but the dollar amount is a significant increase but they thought it was relative.

921
01:24:30,460 --> 01:24:34,620
They did all survey around time and they thought that that was in the ballpark.

922
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:41,760
So my only comment is I'll vote yes on this. I won't hold it up for that but if it's labor intensive

923
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,920
and if it costs that much, why don't we just subcontract that out? Why don't we send it to

924
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:51,420
clicks or something? We have a print shop that does this is just that when they do that,

925
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:56,080
then that takes up time from other jobs. I mean, that is an option, but we think that this

926
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,120
more than covers our expenses and helps to fund balance a little.

927
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,660
This is these maps. A lot of times it'll be commercial people, architects, my call, engineering firms, things like that.

928
01:25:07,940 --> 01:25:16,400
All right. Well, I'm just going to ask if you can figure out if we have been this is that need these maps to conduct economic, you know, things here in the county.

929
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:23,080
And this is going to be a cost that is really going to hurt them. There's any way we can reduce that. Just think about it.

930
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:23,460
Okay.

931
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,120
Thank you.

932
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:25,500
Thank you.

933
01:25:27,140 --> 01:25:27,700
Mr. Barn.

934
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:28,160
Yes.

935
01:25:28,660 --> 01:25:29,520
Mr. Thanko.

936
01:25:29,860 --> 01:25:30,540
Mr. Faisio.

937
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:31,840
Mr. Drows.

938
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:32,240
Nay.

939
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:34,800
Mr. Allen Bogan.

940
01:25:34,940 --> 01:25:35,240
Aye.

941
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:36,400
Mr. Finer.

942
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:36,920
Yes.

943
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,820
Mr. Paulus. Yes.

944
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:39,800
Mr. Green Hawkins.

945
01:25:39,940 --> 01:25:40,200
Aye.

946
01:25:40,340 --> 01:25:41,060
Mr. Harris.

947
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:41,420
Yes.

948
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,060
Mr. Hydebock. Yes.

949
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:44,100
Mr. Macy.

950
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:45,780
Mr. Paul Murray.

951
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:47,080
Yes. Mr. Ray.

952
01:25:47,620 --> 01:25:48,140
Mr. Robinson.

953
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,140
Mr. Marchoni President.

954
01:25:50,900 --> 01:25:51,120
Yes.

955
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,180
I, 13, nose, nose, one, go passes.

956
01:25:54,580 --> 01:25:59,740
Committee on Economic Development in Housing, 2nd Reading, 74742-13.

957
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,720
Residents of the County Valley getting authorized

958
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,940
to remove over parcel from the south side

959
01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:05,860
works tax increment financing plans,

960
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,000
sponsored by the Chief Executive.

961
01:26:09,380 --> 01:26:11,120
Thank you, Mr. President.

962
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:12,060
Move for approval.

963
01:26:12,460 --> 01:26:16,040
Second, move to second, question, roll call.

964
01:26:16,340 --> 01:26:20,700
Mr. Bound, Mr. Stanko, Mr. Fazio, yes, Mr. Drows.

965
01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:24,000
Hi. Mr. Allen Bowdoin. Mr. Finnery. Yes.

966
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,200
Mr. Fittola. Yes.

967
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,420
Mr. Green Hawkins. Hi.

968
01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:27,800
Mr. Harris. Yes.

969
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:28,680
The side of law. Yes.

970
01:26:28,820 --> 01:26:30,020
Mr. Macy. Yes.

971
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:31,060
Mr. Paul Murray. Yes.

972
01:26:31,340 --> 01:26:32,900
Mr. Ray. Mr. Robinson.

973
01:26:33,060 --> 01:26:34,680
Hi. Mr. Martinie President.

974
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:35,360
Yes.

975
01:26:35,420 --> 01:26:36,140
I. 14.

976
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:36,760
No. 0.

977
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:37,700
Bill Passes.

978
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:38,340
Ladies and gentlemen.

979
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:39,880
Mr. President.

980
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:41,740
Yes.

981
01:26:41,740 --> 01:26:42,620
Somebody call it.

982
01:26:42,820 --> 01:26:43,260
I'm sorry.

983
01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:45,400
Yes.

984
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:46,400
Thank you.

985
01:26:46,580 --> 01:26:47,020
Let's matter.

986
01:26:47,260 --> 01:26:47,960
A little party in the end.

987
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:49,200
Not.

988
01:26:50,020 --> 01:27:09,580
No, I just wanted to alert the council that tomorrow in Millville there's going to be a dedication between five and seven on Hawthorne Road of what's called a bioswap and it's a way through some funding and grant monies to create and join these seas of joining us on Hawthorne every day.

989
01:27:09,580 --> 01:27:39,460
a natural water detention or retention of facility or opportunity, upstream development has caused a lot of problems on our river towns, and these bioswales are a way to mitigate the water and the

990
01:27:39,460 --> 01:27:45,660
extreme water detention and the possibilities of doing it from where you have development

991
01:27:45,660 --> 01:27:51,640
of mechanists or way up north along the way, along these streams and tributaries, works

992
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:56,400
as a break and as a deterrent on the water as it accumulates moving towards the river

993
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:56,860
towns.

994
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:02,140
It acts like a break by the time it gets to the river towns, it's not as destructive, it's

995
01:28:02,140 --> 01:28:02,780
not as violent.

996
01:28:02,780 --> 01:28:13,500
And this spot, which is on Hawthorne, is property owned by the sisters of St. Francis who worked with those responsible for developing this,

997
01:28:13,820 --> 01:28:19,840
they started on it in May of this summer they worked all summer on it, and tomorrow is its official dedication.

998
01:28:21,180 --> 01:28:32,760
It's really a natural-looking way to deal with the issue that this county faces as it relates to downstream flooding in a creative and innovative way to look at how we deal with the need

999
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,000
for water retention facilities.

1000
01:28:35,740 --> 01:28:38,260
It is from what I'm told the largest bios well

1001
01:28:38,260 --> 01:28:39,680
in the United States of America.

1002
01:28:40,420 --> 01:28:43,460
And it's on Johnny and I street in a spot

1003
01:28:43,460 --> 01:28:45,220
that's had problems.

1004
01:28:45,980 --> 01:28:48,080
So I look forward to being there between five

1005
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,120
and seven tomorrow night.

1006
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,340
Thank you.

1007
01:28:50,380 --> 01:28:51,320
Thank you, Heather.

1008
01:28:53,500 --> 01:28:57,140
Yes, I liaison reports are a little more familiar,

1009
01:28:57,420 --> 01:28:59,400
so I have a question.

1010
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:07,720
Barbara Daily Danko has submitted a bill for a moratorium on drilling at the parks.

1011
01:29:08,260 --> 01:29:12,380
And I believe that has been forwarded to the government reform committee, which I believe

1012
01:29:12,380 --> 01:29:15,480
is headed by our President, Mr. Marchoni.

1013
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:21,820
And we've also received an RFP that we are to look at from the Chief Executive.

1014
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:28,700
My question is, I would really like to have the bill, Barbara's bill, heard in committee,

1015
01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:36,180
Before we start digging through all the work, so when will the government reform committee be hearing Barbara's bill?

1016
01:29:36,940 --> 01:29:39,420
I'll try to have to meet and make sure we can take what set up a day.

1017
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,480
What we'll have to hear, we'll have a hearing, I mean we'll have her bill.

1018
01:29:42,540 --> 01:29:49,760
I mean we'll have her bill, I mean we'll have her bill hurting the government reform committee. Next week.

1019
01:29:51,900 --> 01:29:52,540
We're out of meeting.

1020
01:29:53,620 --> 01:29:57,580
Okay, I think Mike was next. Thank you.

1021
01:29:57,580 --> 01:29:58,700
and then Jim and John.

1022
01:29:59,240 --> 01:29:59,340
Okay.

1023
01:29:59,820 --> 01:29:59,980
I just.

1024
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,260
I would like to mention that the Carter Timeship had a ribbon cutting for a part they called, Kelley Park, which is out by the Nike side, if you know where that is, going out the parkway, which, and Emily Dockerty, it is a mural on the side of the building, it's really beautiful, but more important than anything else, Kelley Park is named after Corporal Kelley.

1025
01:30:30,060 --> 01:30:37,660
There's a metal on or winner for the United States Army, and that's why it's named Kelley Park.

1026
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:50,180
So I think that's important that you know that, and if you get a chance to go out and do a beautiful job, it's on 55 steam, hollow road, and it's Oak Bell P.A.

1027
01:30:50,180 --> 01:30:51,020
Thank you.

1028
01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:51,920
Thank you.

1029
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:53,920
Jim, I believe you were next.

1030
01:30:54,260 --> 01:30:55,040
Hi, I'm sorry.

1031
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:55,720
Okay.

1032
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:56,260
John?

1033
01:31:04,940 --> 01:31:06,500
Okay, hey, I got something.

1034
01:31:07,420 --> 01:31:09,140
Don't forget it's bucked over.

1035
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:12,820
It's a big spread of violence reporting tomorrow.

1036
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,300
We wish you the best of luck and I hope we'll continue with our series.

1037
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,580
I did forget the message.

1038
01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:20,560
I'm sorry.

1039
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,680
I did forget the mention about Corporal Kelly.

1040
01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:32,740
Corporal Kelly is also in the Hall of Valor at soldiers and sellers and if you get a chance you might want to go there.

1041
01:31:32,900 --> 01:31:42,200
There's over 400 gentlemen that have served in the service that are in the Hall of Valor out at soldiers and sellers.

1042
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:43,980
So if you get a chance, stop there sometime.

1043
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:44,830
Thank you.

1044
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:50,810
I wasn't in the same thing, but being that Mike brought Corporal Kelley up.

1045
01:31:51,010 --> 01:31:57,310
I remember Corporal Kelley when I was a young man very well, and he attended many of various

1046
01:31:57,310 --> 01:31:57,790
events.

1047
01:31:58,230 --> 01:32:07,230
And as a young man, I remember how the war had affected him in a very negative way, which

1048
01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:11,250
makes it all the more important, and because Mike, I know, is very involved in a lot of

1049
01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:20,010
and issues. And this makes seeing someone who's actually on a wall of valor, congressional

1050
01:32:20,010 --> 01:32:24,650
metal of honor winner like that, and seeing the effect that had on him in his life, as

1051
01:32:24,650 --> 01:32:30,210
a young man is something that has always stayed with me. And I think it only emphasizes the need

1052
01:32:30,830 --> 01:32:36,610
to give these services and things to veterans, because it's not all to them just flags

1053
01:32:36,610 --> 01:32:40,470
and praise and stuff. There's a lot of horrible things to go with that. To these guys

1054
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:45,490
have in Gauss have to live with, so like I said, I commend Mike for being as evolved as he

1055
01:32:45,490 --> 01:32:47,550
is with it and I just want to make mention of that.

1056
01:32:47,810 --> 01:32:48,470
So thank you.

1057
01:32:49,150 --> 01:32:49,670
Thank you.

1058
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:50,410
Matt, were you next?

1059
01:32:50,630 --> 01:32:51,070
Yeah.

1060
01:32:51,290 --> 01:32:52,510
Pointed privilege more suddenly.

1061
01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:56,190
Azeon is a follow-up to Councilman Furnge, which I'm glad he brought that up.

1062
01:32:56,390 --> 01:33:00,050
As he did, and I did, we stood on those catch faces in those areas through Millville

1063
01:33:00,050 --> 01:33:02,370
and Marass and other tonships throughout the Connie.

1064
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:09,430
I still remember standing on a lady's porch, late at night, where she, her entire house,

1065
01:33:09,430 --> 01:33:12,430
First floor was wiped out and lost everything.

1066
01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:15,290
And a lot of people done through the Millville in those areas.

1067
01:33:15,890 --> 01:33:18,650
As a matter of follow up, we need to do this.

1068
01:33:18,730 --> 01:33:21,570
We need to be more proactive than reacted to this happens again.

1069
01:33:21,930 --> 01:33:25,270
And I think we need to ask a former inquiry from this console

1070
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:30,190
to through Mr. our Connie Manager to public works

1071
01:33:30,190 --> 01:33:32,930
to revisit those areas to see what corrective action

1072
01:33:32,930 --> 01:33:36,650
if any has been done to prevent this from happening in the future.

1073
01:33:37,090 --> 01:33:38,090
We still don't know.

1074
01:33:38,090 --> 01:33:45,050
We really don't I don't think and we need to really get a full report on that to find out where there are problems that still exist

1075
01:33:45,050 --> 01:33:53,090
They wouldn't resolve they weren't addressed or they were and how were they and where would it alleviate the problem to prevent this from happening in the future

1076
01:33:53,090 --> 01:33:57,010
We really need to do this due diligence. Thank you. Thank you my fellow council. Anyone else?

1077
01:33:59,050 --> 01:34:00,790
Thank you, Mr. President. I

1078
01:34:01,530 --> 01:34:04,610
a couple weeks ago, Sunday, I had a privilege

1079
01:34:04,610 --> 01:34:08,190
to run in a 36th running of the Greg Race Pittsburgh

1080
01:34:08,870 --> 01:34:10,530
and those are a beautiful day.

1081
01:34:11,010 --> 01:34:14,090
And we had about 15,500 runners there,

1082
01:34:14,670 --> 01:34:16,530
and I didn't finish last.

1083
01:34:17,850 --> 01:34:19,530
I just wanted that to be said.

1084
01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:22,190
I did finish but not last.

1085
01:34:22,310 --> 01:34:24,690
But anyhow, I just want to congratulate everyone

1086
01:34:24,690 --> 01:34:26,750
and had anything to do with that.

1087
01:34:26,770 --> 01:34:29,590
We drove into town and we took the bus,

1088
01:34:29,590 --> 01:34:42,170
They bust us back out to the park out there in Oakland, and it was a frick park that is, and I can't, I can't compliment enough, a whole while they conducted that.

1089
01:34:42,330 --> 01:34:48,990
They moved all the runners and got everyone out there, and had a wonderful reception back at the Point State Park when we finished.

1090
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:54,430
It was just a glorious day for Pittsburgh, and I was really pleased and honored to be a part of it. Thank you, Mr. President.

1091
01:34:56,990 --> 01:34:59,670
Okay, that's what we want to do.

1092
01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:06,840
New business ordinances, and resolutions. 777-13.

1093
01:35:07,220 --> 01:35:15,000
The ordinance authorizing the extension of the term of ordinance number 02-12-0 or an active February 21, 2012,

1094
01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:24,060
allowing the Department of Public Works to take certain action on behalf of County Council, with respect to the issuance of highway occupancy permits, the grant of certain licenses,

1095
01:35:24,060 --> 01:35:31,080
is right of entry and easements and the applicable acquisition of certain real estate affecting

1096
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:36,600
county public works projects and other matters for calendar year 2014 and 2015.

1097
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,540
177-178-13.

1098
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,700
Authorities of the County Valley Guinea to adopt Thorne Hill Road, also known as Thorne Hill

1099
01:35:45,700 --> 01:35:53,400
Industrial Park Drive as a county road and to acquire its right of way being a 1,498.69 foot

1100
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:58,560
long road including brush creek bridge number three between its intersection with

1101
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,820
brush creek road slash Commonwealth Drive and its intersection with Perry Highway

1102
01:36:03,820 --> 01:36:09,900
state root 0 0 1 9 formerly legislative route 2 4 6 and Marshall conscious

1103
01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:16,440
sponsored by the chief executive committee on public works 7779-13 resolution

1104
01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:20,780
the county valley in Yemeni the grants and special cost budget for 2013 submission

1105
01:36:20,780 --> 01:36:23,380
8-13 sponsored by the Chief Executive.

1106
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,600
Committee on Budget and Finance,

1107
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,260
notification of contracts.

1108
01:36:29,380 --> 01:36:31,680
7-7-80-13.

1109
01:36:32,020 --> 01:36:34,080
Some of your executive actions for all departments

1110
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,040
from 9-13 through 9-30-13.

1111
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:38,460
Receive and file.

1112
01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:39,720
We need a motion on that.

1113
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:40,940
Make a motion as receiving.

1114
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:42,980
Move in second question.

1115
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:43,640
All in favor.

1116
01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:45,580
The Post-So Order.

1117
01:36:45,940 --> 01:36:47,620
Public comment on agenda item.

1118
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:48,300
We have nine.

1119
01:36:48,300 --> 01:36:49,400
We have nine speakers.

1120
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:54,220
The first speaker, Ronald Lynn Miller, Ronald Lynn Miller.

1121
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,120
He's not here.

1122
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:56,440
He's not here.

1123
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:57,740
He's here.

1124
01:36:58,520 --> 01:36:59,400
The Griget Shields.

1125
01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:00,540
Griget.

1126
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:23,860
Griget.

1127
01:37:23,860 --> 01:37:24,600
Hi, everybody.

1128
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:25,640
Griget Shields.

1129
01:37:26,060 --> 01:37:27,180
2, 3, 2, 9.

1130
01:37:27,700 --> 01:37:29,480
Tillberry Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA.

1131
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:35,740
I'm here tonight again on the moratorium for drilling and deer like park.

1132
01:37:35,740 --> 01:37:46,120
I just made copies for each of you of the October 4th Post Gazette article about the

1133
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:50,540
Friends of South Park agreeing with Mr. Fitzgerald on coal mining.

1134
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:51,820
They did not.

1135
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:58,760
He lied about that and there is testimony in the Post Gazette that he'll pass out to you.

1136
01:37:59,180 --> 01:38:04,660
And also, I don't know of all of you have seen the latest report on high levels of radiation

1137
01:38:04,660 --> 01:38:11,840
from fracking waste found in the Pennsylvania rivers and a creek that flows into the

1138
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:19,120
Allegheny river. It's not on our national news. It hasn't bid broadcast it anywhere. I

1139
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:26,300
don't know why, but we have a major problem in Pennsylvania and it's radio activity at 200

1140
01:38:26,300 --> 01:38:33,640
times the allotted amount in the Allegheny river. Now, I don't know about you, but it's

1141
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:41,260
getting better, it's getting worse. So I also, in your packet, I put a list of the upcoming

1142
01:38:41,260 --> 01:38:46,940
events that are happening for you to maybe attend and find out more about what this

1143
01:38:46,940 --> 01:38:54,540
industry is doing. And the one that I think you should all really note is November 12th, Tony

1144
01:38:54,540 --> 01:39:01,100
and Grafia from Cornell University. He's the engineer that helped in designing the fracturing

1145
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:08,920
process, hydraulic fracturing. He's now one of the most outspoken people against this industry

1146
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:14,660
and he's going to be here at the Heinz History Center on November 12th and I would highly

1147
01:39:14,660 --> 01:39:20,980
recommend you to attend and ask him any questions that you might have concerning this industry.

1148
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:30,860
Also tomorrow night, in Lawrenceville, there's a meeting with some gas drillers, workers from the

1149
01:39:30,860 --> 01:39:38,200
industry. And they're having a little presentation and a question and answer period and I would ask

1150
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:44,520
that some of you please attend and if not have somebody attend in your presence and ask questions. Thank you very much.

1151
01:39:44,940 --> 01:39:46,960
Thank you very much. Peter Ray.

1152
01:39:53,190 --> 01:39:56,470
Peter, I'm not sure if you pronounce the W here correctly when you get up there.

1153
01:40:26,980 --> 01:40:30,060
Bydd noon yn y mnyhw el ho

1154
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,620
Ond y reireuri, ddwi'n r Songa'n Rylandsolwch o'n Chydwch yn ymlyddwch Ydaethleo yn ngifodd.

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Mae'n ddwi'n cyhnydd cyn zylfeu ywchodd a'r, a'r gwneud, yddau yddoud relio rhoi'nol.

1156
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1157
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Ydraeth 1949 ywchodd a'r adys molawn.

1158
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dyn ni el curfdan y alfonso dweith yn y curfdan y fyn ni llaww'r Fynr Fwyr fel fazthu, yn

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yür i'r gyfdraagwl ar y fynr Fwyr y Febhorio.

1160
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:10,960
Dyn ni'r Fwyr i fyrdraagwl ar ei gwshwn gwas yddo, a un o'r Fwyr.

1161
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Dyn ni'r Fwyr yn ôl eisiawnyd fwyr.

1162
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:15,960
Dyn ni'r Fwyr i fwyr i'r Fwyr yn un o'r Fwyr.

1163
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Dyn ni fwyr yn y Fwysterhyd y Fwyr iFFI, y fwyr.

1164
01:41:18,140 --> 01:41:18,600
Dyn ni'n fwyr.

1165
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:24,900
Dyn ni'n fwyr i dyn ni'n fwyr.

1166
01:41:24,900 --> 01:41:26,820
must an o'r gwneaf y di Market.

1167
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:30,360
O'r ddiafio rwfer ylwfarffd yn'r fel am am ei ddege.

1168
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:31,420
Diafol, ar fy ymth yn ynaodol fel yn yng blaen o'nloghellen.

1169
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Dynl �fffysau bod o'r gwneaf a ac negi dynddodd pa'r yn y cynneaf fel

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sy'r gallwchyd yn yr arer gallwchodd.

1173
01:41:44,220 --> 01:41:48,240
A o'r gallwchodd i'r gallwchodd i'r gallwchyd.

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01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:53,380
Un y wanna'n iawn? A y called Work From Success Fife from Success Fife.

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Un�ed from Success Fife. Funfrey Fife.

1176
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,370
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1177
01:41:58,940 --> 01:42:06,320
Anach look, â ydi ddddim yddddddim, y dddd mum ygda deol fy gyfrwy,

1178
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:14,400
ddddim ydddddim yda ddi nhw'nt groeddad yn ddddim ydddddim ydddim ydddim

1179
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,760
Yhan y Banhand Pysfyn y Pysfyngu yn y Pysfyngu y Pysfyngu yn ta'n ffyngu.

1180
01:42:19,340 --> 01:42:25,820
Mynd y Pysfyngu yn y Pysfyngu, y Pysfyngu yn yn ddim y Pysfyngu yn trifod yn y Pysfyngu yn

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01:42:25,820 --> 01:42:25,840
ffyngu yn fel cyn綜 Spenceron, y Pysfyn siècle.

1182
01:42:27,660 --> 01:42:32,700
Mae gael y B granol i'n Pysfyn, y Pysfyngu, y Pysfyngu yn y Pysfyngu...

1183
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:43,720
Dynafysdwl yn ffyngu, y Pysfyngu y Pysfyngu yn Fledis y Pysfyngu yn ffyngu yn Pysfyngu yn

1184
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:48,660
yn yn yma i'n ddefeg rwhel yw hynny ffesu'r o'r hynny'n gweld ympr yn ffesu'r hynny'n akademio fyennufl

1185
01:42:50,980 --> 01:42:57,640
Yn yn ymda ymydeg, oedd ydfeg, yn suwynny, eu ffesu'r hynny aundio fel yddio caen yng ar llenodio

1186
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,800
Dtynu, yngol, ddim y yw, ddim yw.

1187
01:43:02,060 --> 01:43:03,060
No, ddim yw.

1188
01:43:03,060 --> 01:43:03,580
Dddim yw.

1189
01:43:03,580 --> 01:43:03,780
Dddim.

1190
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:11,950
Dddim yw.

1191
01:43:12,450 --> 01:43:12,950
Dddim yw.

1192
01:43:13,450 --> 01:43:14,370
Dddim yw.

1193
01:43:15,250 --> 01:43:16,250
Dddim yw.

1194
01:43:17,110 --> 01:43:24,250
I'm John Ewer Benowitz. I live at 7721, Ederton Avenue, Pitzburg 105221.

1195
01:43:27,050 --> 01:43:36,310
I want to second the proposal that council, that the committee, the Government Reform Committee, holds a meeting

1196
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:43,310
very soon on the moratorium proposal that was made by Barbara Dellie Denko.

1197
01:43:43,310 --> 01:44:13,290
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1201
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1203
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:44,450
neu yn ymerdol i'n g Saturday.

1204
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:50,810
Ydylryw'w'n zwrlw'r gwneud dwe unisiaw'r eu dderig Shu nethdiantóich,

1205
01:44:50,810 --> 01:44:52,790
gracia si'r defrihen.

1206
01:44:54,170 --> 01:44:59,110
Ydylryw'r ydyd uncleu chi'n ydyw'n i'n gwrw'r i'n gwrws i'n gwrs i'n gwrw i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrw i'n gwrs.

1207
01:44:59,110 --> 01:44:59,970
I'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs i'n gwrs.

1208
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:17,640
We have been at some of those meetings to take the time to go back and look at the videos. There has been excellent testimony over the last three or four meetings here that's gone on from many, many people with very, very knowledgeable people on the subject.

1209
01:45:18,220 --> 01:45:24,620
And I hope that all of you will be able to take advantage of the testimony that's been given before.

1210
01:45:24,620 --> 01:45:35,060
And finally, I just want to remind you that every day there's new places all over the world that are passing bands on fracking.

1211
01:45:35,580 --> 01:45:41,120
You can find this online Belgium, I think, I'm not going to say because I don't remember, I'm a very bad memory.

1212
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:47,900
But I know that there are cities, there are places in New York State that are passing bands every single month, there's new ones that pass bands.

1213
01:45:47,900 --> 01:46:02,140
So, to me, we need a band here, and we need to begin with a moratorium for three years so we can study the possibilities of what could happen as a result of cracking.

1214
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:11,600
Oh, and finally, yes. Young people are moving here. Everybody talks about this, which talked about how we have more and more young people moving here.

1215
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:17,360
If I had children who wanted to move here, I wouldn't expect that they would want to come

1216
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:25,200
to a place where their county parks are being decimated by drilling and by coal mining.

1217
01:46:25,220 --> 01:46:27,580
It seems like a backwards move to me.

1218
01:46:27,820 --> 01:46:30,500
So I hope that you will consider that as well.

1219
01:46:30,940 --> 01:46:31,940
Thank you.

1220
01:46:31,940 --> 01:46:33,160
Thank you, Mel Packer.

1221
01:46:40,940 --> 01:46:41,580
Just in case.

1222
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,080
I'm not going to bother handing this one out.

1223
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:49,220
I think you already know about this.

1224
01:46:49,220 --> 01:46:53,040
just tomorrow night, all the people who are doing Mel Packer, 623, Kurt Lundstree,

1225
01:46:53,260 --> 01:46:55,040
played for his section two and three meetings ago.

1226
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:58,980
I think it was Councilman Heilboss suggested that when we speak about fracking,

1227
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:03,860
we should lay off on the emotional stuff and try to present some scientific evidence

1228
01:47:03,860 --> 01:47:04,820
in more studies.

1229
01:47:04,980 --> 01:47:06,240
I believe it was you to set that.

1230
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:07,740
That was a good advice I think.

1231
01:47:08,060 --> 01:47:10,360
It's okay to do that, but also to present more evidence.

1232
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,820
So what I'm handing out to you is two different articles about a study that's been done

1233
01:47:14,820 --> 01:47:15,840
by Duke University.

1234
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,720
You may have heard about it from Bridges Shields as well,

1235
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:23,260
that was just released on, I think, October 1st, October 2nd, specifically talking about radiation

1236
01:47:23,260 --> 01:47:26,860
in our rivers and in our streams, and we're going to read you from one of the articles

1237
01:47:26,860 --> 01:47:31,180
from Bloomberg magazine, hardly a fraction of this publication, and the other one from

1238
01:47:31,180 --> 01:47:33,660
the Smithsonian, again, hardly a fraction of this publication.

1239
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:39,300
Settlement in Black Lake Creek, which dumps into the alleging a river contained radio and

1240
01:47:39,300 --> 01:47:46,960
concentration 200 times above normal, 200 times above the allowable limits in a study published

1241
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,980
in the Journal of Environmental Science and Technology.

1242
01:47:49,700 --> 01:47:51,640
It came from the Josephine-Brient Treatment Facility

1243
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,280
45th Mouse East of Pittsburgh,

1244
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,320
which treats wastewater from oil and gas.

1245
01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:58,040
The absolute levels we found are much higher

1246
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,020
than what we allow in the U.S. for any place

1247
01:48:00,020 --> 01:48:01,540
to dump radioactive material,

1248
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:03,500
said Abner and Vanguard should have professed

1249
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:04,700
for the Nicholas School of Environment

1250
01:48:04,700 --> 01:48:06,540
and a co-author of the study.

1251
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:09,220
The radio will be a biocubilating

1252
01:48:09,220 --> 01:48:10,580
and we'll get into the fish.

1253
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:12,800
For decades, we have dispose of wastewater

1254
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,080
from oil and gas drilling at commercial treatment plants,

1255
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:16,800
It's just charging into rivers and streams.

1256
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:22,720
We have had a 570% increase in the volume of drilling wastewater since 2004 according to

1257
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:23,520
Brian Lutz.

1258
01:48:24,140 --> 01:48:28,700
As much as 80% of that fluid returns according to Lutz, and as he says, water treatment has been

1259
01:48:28,700 --> 01:48:30,520
Pennsylvania's go-to method for decades.

1260
01:48:31,620 --> 01:48:34,020
With fracking, we are seeing the systems being overwhelmed.

1261
01:48:34,420 --> 01:48:37,840
We are taking too much waste leading to water quality problems.

1262
01:48:38,180 --> 01:48:41,300
He goes on to say, we are getting better reduced the amount of wastewater produced by

1263
01:48:41,300 --> 01:48:46,280
well, but the total waste of order of volume continues to grow rapidly, there simply is not

1264
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,780
disposable infrastructure in place.

1265
01:48:49,300 --> 01:48:53,300
Aquatech, which acquired just the implant, is this that they're not doing this anymore,

1266
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:58,380
but in fact the study shows they are still dumping waste water, they still process again,

1267
01:48:58,540 --> 01:49:00,860
it's still showing up.

1268
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:06,400
Finally, I just want to think, I want you to think about Gill Lake's park and think of the

1269
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:10,420
water spray park, think of those three tiny lakes where kids learn to fish, it's kind of a

1270
01:49:10,420 --> 01:49:15,140
Rockwell scene out there frankly and think of what happens if that kind of radiation gets into that water

1271
01:49:15,140 --> 01:49:20,940
It gets into the drinking fountain gets into that water spray park imagine Fukushima on a smaller scale folks

1272
01:49:20,940 --> 01:49:26,220
That's what we're talking about try to imagine what can happen to children playing in this exposed to chemicals

1273
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:34,660
Radiation trying to I know this is a hard thing to think about what happens to the developing eggs in a female womb when you're exposed to this

1274
01:49:34,660 --> 01:49:38,860
We could drink water like that when you get the chemicals into your body and what you can say

1275
01:49:38,860 --> 01:49:45,960
for the family on down the road who've got a malformed child who's born perhaps because of toxic accumulation in the body,

1276
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:47,780
toxic mutations that happen in those genes.

1277
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,500
What do we say to those people?

1278
01:49:49,940 --> 01:49:53,540
If the best answer we can give is what we've got new picnic tables,

1279
01:49:54,420 --> 01:49:58,220
that we deserve every bit of wrapping condemnation that falls upon our heads.

1280
01:49:58,560 --> 01:49:58,820
Thank you.

1281
01:49:58,940 --> 01:49:59,600
Mr. Peckus.

1282
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:18,500
I don't have a question for you, but thank you. I have a question for Mr. Canvas. I had asked our solicitor to provide me at NCAL, so with an opinion. Now, I received from Mr. Seffy, a CD with all of the deeds from dear.

1283
01:50:18,500 --> 01:50:22,660
I asked him to prepare that for you and he was to get that to me and you also.

1284
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:27,280
Okay, do you have a copy of this? I don't. I may have it in the office, but I haven't seen it.

1285
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:39,220
Okay, so what I still am seeking though is an opinion from your office, please, in regard to looking at all of the deeds, putting the land into the park.

1286
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:45,780
I don't know if this is all or not. I'll look at it as well as a lawyer, but I'd like your office to do this as well.

1287
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:57,260
And to also look at all the state laws, county laws, regulations, and to give us an opinion, as our council, as to whether there's any existing legal prohibition.

1288
01:50:58,660 --> 01:51:01,120
on drilling underneath the parks.

1289
01:51:01,500 --> 01:51:02,840
Yeah, you and I did discuss those issues.

1290
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:04,820
You can see if there's any reservation or right

1291
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:06,760
for those sorts of issues.

1292
01:51:07,460 --> 01:51:08,300
Thank you.

1293
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:12,040
So, could we perhaps, I don't want to push you too hard.

1294
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:12,940
Obviously, I know you're really-

1295
01:51:12,940 --> 01:51:14,420
We have a next week for your meeting.

1296
01:51:14,540 --> 01:51:15,300
Probably not.

1297
01:51:15,660 --> 01:51:16,820
But I'll try to get it.

1298
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:17,800
Okay.

1299
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,180
If we could get it within the next couple of weeks,

1300
01:51:20,580 --> 01:51:21,640
I'd really appreciate that.

1301
01:51:22,180 --> 01:51:22,500
Thank you.

1302
01:51:22,740 --> 01:51:23,140
Thank you.

1303
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,260
Thank you.

1304
01:51:26,260 --> 01:51:28,760
Mary, for you here, you're right here.

1305
01:51:37,970 --> 01:51:39,890
Hi, I'm Terry Suppelitz.

1306
01:51:40,210 --> 01:51:43,890
I live breathing garden at 310 Hay Street in Wilkinsburg.

1307
01:51:44,990 --> 01:51:50,110
I keep writing these every week and I go, okay, what do you need to hear?

1308
01:51:50,890 --> 01:51:57,970
What will convince you that fracking in the parks is a bad idea?

1309
01:51:58,570 --> 01:52:03,150
We've told you about water pollution, we've told you about air pollution, we've told you

1310
01:52:03,150 --> 01:52:04,930
about what it does to the soil.

1311
01:52:05,550 --> 01:52:09,550
There is nothing good about fracking except some corporations

1312
01:52:09,550 --> 01:52:11,150
make some money.

1313
01:52:12,050 --> 01:52:14,210
And maybe the parks will get some money,

1314
01:52:14,270 --> 01:52:17,610
but that money will have to be used to clean up the nest

1315
01:52:17,610 --> 01:52:19,370
that the fracking is going to create.

1316
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:24,130
I don't have an answer, but I do have a question for you.

1317
01:52:24,370 --> 01:52:27,630
If there are questions that you all have,

1318
01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:29,590
write them down, ask us.

1319
01:52:29,610 --> 01:52:31,670
You have all of our phone numbers.

1320
01:52:31,670 --> 01:52:37,310
You know where we live, you probably have most of our email addresses.

1321
01:52:38,090 --> 01:52:39,870
What do you want to know?

1322
01:52:40,210 --> 01:52:41,690
What are your questions?

1323
01:52:42,710 --> 01:52:44,510
And then we can try to answer them.

1324
01:52:44,750 --> 01:52:48,750
Not that all of us have all of the answers, but we can certainly try.

1325
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:53,630
You heard about Rich Fitzgerald and South Park.

1326
01:52:53,930 --> 01:52:54,810
He lied.

1327
01:52:55,570 --> 01:52:56,590
That's a lie.

1328
01:52:57,450 --> 01:52:59,650
What else is he lying about?

1329
01:53:00,610 --> 01:53:09,630
And now, and the radiation in blacklit creek that's going into the rivers where we use that water, that's what we drink,

1330
01:53:10,150 --> 01:53:14,790
that's what you drink, your kids drink, your grandchildren drink, like grandchildren drink.

1331
01:53:16,130 --> 01:53:21,890
We want that. That's just the beginning of this. It's not the end. It's just the beginning.

1332
01:53:21,890 --> 01:53:30,370
And I want to refer to what Mel Packard said about young children and their eggs and women

1333
01:53:30,370 --> 01:53:35,590
having babies, it's not going to happen the day after if you do frack in the park, it's

1334
01:53:35,590 --> 01:53:42,450
not going to happen then and may not even happen until 10 years later, but there is a connection

1335
01:53:43,190 --> 01:53:49,450
and it will happen if these kids get exposed to radiation.

1336
01:53:51,090 --> 01:54:07,990
So my conclusion, oh, a few places that have banned fracking France, Bulgaria, Romania, South Africa, Germany, the Czech Republic, Ireland, North Ireland, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, British Columbia, Quebec.

1337
01:54:08,930 --> 01:54:15,610
There are huge places on the map that are banning it and saying that this is not the right thing to do.

1338
01:54:15,610 --> 01:54:22,850
So, it's not a done deal in my head, you can say no, and that's what I'm asking you to do to say no to

1339
01:54:22,850 --> 01:54:30,690
fracking for at least three years, and to please support Barbara Daily Danko's moratorium and drilling, thank you.

1340
01:54:31,010 --> 01:54:40,030
Thank you. Jacob Weinberg, Jacob Weinberg, one more time, Jacob Weinberg, Timothy Ludwig.

1341
01:54:50,530 --> 01:54:53,810
Hello, I'm Tim Ludwig, 18-Grestman Street, Edna.

1342
01:54:55,190 --> 01:54:59,970
Edna's on the corner of, it's right where 28 and Rude A. Me. I mentioned that because...

1343
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:09,640
Of the increased truck traffic that might happen if there is drilling in deer lakes. I don't know where this water is going to come from, but it very well could pass through that corridor.

1344
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:24,300
It's estimated about 1,000 trucks per well drilled. The executive said there at least be three wells. It says 3,000 more trucks surrounding properties could be more wells.

1345
01:55:24,300 --> 01:55:26,740
You know, it could be up to like 10,000 trucks.

1346
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,500
You guys mentioned your hot dormitory area, very close to that area.

1347
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:34,260
Just think about 10,000 more trucks come by.

1348
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:39,420
Again, Mr. Fashara would always stress is following D.P. regulations.

1349
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,740
Let's talk a little bit about what D.P. regulations are.

1350
01:55:44,580 --> 01:55:47,480
The industry is aggressively pushing local and state officials to change

1351
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,720
the regulations that are being implemented.

1352
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:56,240
an act 13 as you guys hopefully know as was passed is still being litigated and that's what the

1353
01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:02,360
moratorium is asking to let stop for three years see what's happening with act 13. If you don't know

1354
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:07,340
act 13 is the new law that got local governments for rights of zoning and long-term planning

1355
01:56:07,340 --> 01:56:12,300
doesn't allow for local health and environmental regulations for bids, municipalities, to appeal

1356
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:18,700
state decisions about well permits. Just a little bit ago a couple of meetings go ahead health inspector

1357
01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:24,820
saying, you guys have an inspector inside the clearing coal works every day.

1358
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:29,500
You know how many regulators are across state, 78 regulators across the state.

1359
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:34,520
You guys can't supplement that at all if you want any clean air regulations in your

1360
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:36,220
county, it's forbidden by state law.

1361
01:56:37,020 --> 01:56:40,740
One way you can stop that, ban it, don't do it, don't sell it.

1362
01:56:41,700 --> 01:56:49,140
This law also requires companies to provide fresh water to areas that are contaminated with

1363
01:56:49,140 --> 01:56:53,000
the wind that contaminates the water supply, but it does not require the companies to clean

1364
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,980
up the pollution afterwards.

1365
01:56:55,460 --> 01:57:01,500
It also doesn't require companies to track transportation or deposit of contaminated wastewater.

1366
01:57:02,140 --> 01:57:07,660
That is why our rivers now are becoming radioactive, our streams, soon our rivers.

1367
01:57:07,660 --> 01:57:14,220
They mentioned the health effects, imagine everyone went down to the point and saw a radioactive

1368
01:57:14,220 --> 01:57:16,380
dock instead of this little blown up dock here.

1369
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:17,680
That would be kind of scary.

1370
01:57:18,740 --> 01:57:23,740
The Ack 13 also allows companies to place well 300 feet from houses, streams and

1371
01:57:23,740 --> 01:57:24,400
white lands.

1372
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:31,940
It allows compressor stations to be placed 750 feet from houses and it gives gas companies authority

1373
01:57:31,940 --> 01:57:36,880
operate these stations continuously up to 60 decibels, which is equivalent of continuous

1374
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:43,480
conversation in restaurants. That's just a little brief thing about act 13. We need to hear what's

1375
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:50,460
going to be finalized with that. State laws are pushing your guys with laws out of here. We need

1376
01:57:50,460 --> 01:57:56,720
to hear what the state is going to do before you guys make a decision on drilling. Thank you Tim.

1377
01:58:10,370 --> 01:58:10,890
Lucas

1378
01:58:12,410 --> 01:58:19,070
Lucas Lyons 1902, Meatville Street, Northside, I lost my voice, I went to the last two

1379
01:58:19,070 --> 01:58:26,790
pirate games, so excuse me, first of all real quick on the Northside connector that was mentioned

1380
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:37,650
real quick, it's a national disgrace, that's mentioned is one of the prime examples of pork

1381
01:58:37,650 --> 01:58:42,510
the subject of nationally, we are under the microscope nationally.

1382
01:58:42,770 --> 01:58:46,090
These reports are coming out in the Washington Times, they're coming out in the Los Angeles

1383
01:58:46,090 --> 01:58:46,670
Times.

1384
01:58:47,110 --> 01:58:50,190
Other cities are reporting what's happening in Western Pennsylvania.

1385
01:58:50,730 --> 01:58:55,490
So if you don't know what's going on in the rest of the world does, we need to educate ourselves.

1386
01:58:56,150 --> 01:58:57,610
So that's all I'll say about that.

1387
01:59:00,650 --> 01:59:05,430
So it's looking like this is just going to keep moving along swimmingly.

1388
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:10,330
And Rich Fitzgerald is going to get, you know, fracking where he wants it.

1389
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:15,670
I don't know if anyone's going to stand up and fight for, you know, our county parks that we own.

1390
01:59:15,690 --> 01:59:19,270
You don't own, you don't get to sell to anyone you want to, okay?

1391
01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:24,710
But I'm going to seriously, I'm going to beg Council.

1392
01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:26,930
First of all, thank you for eight of you staying.

1393
01:59:27,390 --> 01:59:28,630
I really appreciate that.

1394
01:59:29,110 --> 01:59:32,590
I've been, it's very frustrated.

1395
01:59:33,490 --> 01:59:34,870
I'm not talking to you.

1396
01:59:35,010 --> 01:59:36,950
Obviously, I appreciate it.

1397
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:43,290
But, I mean, empty chairs, every time we take the time out of our schedules to come down and talk to you.

1398
01:59:44,430 --> 01:59:47,870
Things I'm going to beg for you from you.

1399
01:59:48,370 --> 01:59:55,490
Reinstate the safe drinking water act if you're going to allow fracking in around under and over our county parks.

1400
01:59:56,270 --> 01:59:59,970
For those of you that don't know, why is that radio?

1401
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,640
A few active ways allowed to be on our rivers. Why are we finding like, I did a little thing last week about the overall, I mean, hundreds of thousands of gallons of waste material, radioactive material, heavy metals, hydrofluorocarbons, presynogens, like you name it. I think I added up the four of the 13 contaminants that they said they're going to use in the impact report over at the airport.

1402
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,780
And that's only what they're telling us.

1403
02:00:31,780 --> 02:00:33,640
They're not, obviously, telling us about this

1404
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:34,560
radioactive material.

1405
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,540
But before you allow fracking,

1406
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,080
reinstate the Safe Drinking Water Act,

1407
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:43,760
the Dick Cheney carved out of our national law.

1408
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:45,560
That's very important.

1409
02:00:46,620 --> 02:00:49,900
Second, I would like this council

1410
02:00:50,660 --> 02:00:52,460
with a three-year moratorium.

1411
02:00:52,980 --> 02:00:54,300
We need an impact study.

1412
02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:56,580
I read the impact study out at the airport.

1413
02:00:57,020 --> 02:00:59,000
It's written for like a middle schooler.

1414
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:06,200
It's, honestly, it's, it's, it's almost offensive how how much they brush over what they're doing over there.

1415
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:06,940
Okay.

1416
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:09,380
We need to gain university.

1417
02:01:09,580 --> 02:01:10,300
We need pit.

1418
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:11,200
We need CMU.

1419
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:13,500
We need our environmental engineers.

1420
02:01:14,020 --> 02:01:18,200
We need people to independently study the economic impact.

1421
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:20,040
The environmental impact.

1422
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,940
And we don't need a report from console energy on what's going to happen over there.

1423
02:01:24,060 --> 02:01:26,460
Okay. And we don't.

1424
02:01:26,460 --> 02:01:31,100
we don't need a report from range resources either because they're even worse they're based out of

1425
02:01:31,100 --> 02:01:38,340
taxes and they could care less about what they do here. Thank you. Mr. President. Yes.

1426
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:45,040
I'd like to point a privilege, please. Sure. Sure. I'd like to thank everyone for coming in.

1427
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:52,600
You've been fairly diligent, but I don't, Terry, you made a comment, the fact that we're not listening,

1428
02:01:52,600 --> 02:02:00,980
we haven't even had a committee meeting yet. We're listening. Well, you feel like you know

1429
02:02:00,980 --> 02:02:06,340
how everybody is going to vote, but you really don't because, quite frankly, we don't. I'm

1430
02:02:06,340 --> 02:02:08,560
read this in my email.

1431
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:16,700
And what they vote with, it says, Council of Friends voted yes that

1432
02:02:16,700 --> 02:02:23,180
the county should put out an RFP. All we did was say, get the request for a proposal and

1433
02:02:23,180 --> 02:02:29,640
find out what's there. How much is there and what are the risks and the rewards? Then

1434
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:36,160
he says, please make it clear that I only voted for an RFP. What the heck do you think an RFP is?

1435
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:40,660
They should have said, we're not interested no matter what's under here. That's what they should

1436
02:02:40,660 --> 02:02:44,900
have said. Don't put an RFP out. We're not interested in your coal, mine no matter how much

1437
02:02:45,380 --> 02:02:49,900
This is a commission saying they're in favor of looking at it.

1438
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:52,900
So maybe I'm wrong.

1439
02:02:56,020 --> 02:02:58,420
I'm not looking for you to respond quite frankly.

1440
02:02:58,440 --> 02:02:59,260
I'm making a statement.

1441
02:02:59,260 --> 02:03:01,560
I have my time up here just like you folks did.

1442
02:03:01,900 --> 02:03:04,600
But as far as I'm concerned, they're given permission.

1443
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,100
I'm not in favor of coal mining at the South Park.

1444
02:03:08,620 --> 02:03:11,280
I'm on record and the paper to say I was against it, okay?

1445
02:03:11,580 --> 02:03:14,180
But you guys are telling me something that's different here.

1446
02:03:15,020 --> 02:03:16,440
Thank you, Mr. President.

1447
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:22,440
Yes, I just have a question for either Jared or Mr. Canvas on the litigation on Act 13.

1448
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:27,540
Mind your standing is it's been briefed and argued before the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court.

1449
02:03:28,020 --> 02:03:29,640
How long ago were the or arguments?

1450
02:03:30,700 --> 02:03:32,620
I'm not sure of that here.

1451
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:33,140
Yeah.

1452
02:03:33,260 --> 02:03:34,140
My only part.

1453
02:03:34,820 --> 02:03:35,260
A year?

1454
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:36,600
Okay.

1455
02:03:37,660 --> 02:03:38,000
Thanks.

1456
02:03:40,750 --> 02:03:41,830
Any other question?

1457
02:03:42,730 --> 02:03:43,350
It's adjourned.

1458
02:03:43,670 --> 02:03:46,070
I think it's time for a motion to adjourn the meeting.

1459
02:03:46,070 --> 02:03:49,030
we will second question all of favor?

1460
02:03:49,670 --> 02:03:50,990
It is meeting Spencer.

1461
02:03:52,510 --> 02:03:54,370
Enough people left we already turned.

1462
02:03:56,930 --> 02:03:57,570
Yeah.

1463
02:03:58,670 --> 02:04:01,090
I know I took his license.

1464
02:04:02,030 --> 02:04:04,410
Taking a statement like I took six before I got done.

1465
02:04:05,670 --> 02:04:09,890
What do you want to go to?

1466
02:04:17,190 --> 02:04:19,670
I don't want you to make it state, but it's like war.