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Mhm.

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» Hey.
21st along with our public hearing. We

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will begin our public hearing
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first and then go directly into our
regular council meeting.

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In our public hearing, now I will read
this statement for you.

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Notice is hereby given that the county
council

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of Alachua County will conduct a public
hearing

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relating to an ordinance
to provide for the control and

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prevention
of litter and illegal dumping within

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Alachua County.
To provide procedures for for for

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enforcement.
To provide penal penalties for

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violation of this ordinance and other
matters related thereto.

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So,
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» ladies and gentlemen, we
certainly would like to hear your

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concerns
on our litter control, something that

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we've been doing for a long time.
Mr. Bankhead, you seem to have some

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problems. Could could you let us know?
Yes, sir.

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I thought we already had a ordinance for
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Well, you will see why
we did not.

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We did not cuz you blocked it.
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» You will see that what we had was not
strong enough.

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» Okay, what's the problem with the code?
There you go.

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And I won't blame anybody for that.
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» But anyway,
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» [snorts]
>> if you got concerns

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» Does that Does this not include people
using their property for a junkyard?

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Using what, sir? Their property for a
junkyard.

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You know, that's one
piece of legislation

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that our legislators
have dealt with over the years.

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And they've yet to make a decision on
it. Well, cuz I deal with that on a

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daily basis.
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we're not the only county.
Uh larger counties certainly have

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indicated
a desire to have an enforcement on

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county-wide literacy,
uh abandoned property, etc.

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Our legislators kind of
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but have not done anything.
Walter, that's your take on it? Yeah.

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Okay.
I don't want to say anything bad about

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[clears throat] Walter,
but when it comes to legislative that

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But it does
account for abandoned cars in yards,

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doesn't it?
Excuse me? It does account for abandoned

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cars in yards.
>> unsightly property in the definitions in

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there, so that that would fit in that
definition, I think.

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What the chair was talking about is

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I do work professionally with
a a recognized salvage yard. That's what

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we're talking about.
Yes, sir.

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Yes.

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But I'm a Who's going to enforce this?
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sheriff's department.
I'm confused.

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The
The counties have never had the same

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ability that cities have had to clean up
unsightly property.

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Okay, good.
They got no job on my way. Cuz they

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The legislature has never given them
that This is what we're talking about.

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» Yeah. has never given counties the same
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to clean up the piece of property and
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levy a fine or a fee to pick it up or to
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Uh we've been asking for it because a
lot of cities people in Illinois used to

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do that and they just didn't want to tax
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because they can't we can't do that in
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I think
what I've actually been told is that,

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you know, out in the rural parts of the
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it may be 2 3 4 miles to the next
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Four or five cars sitting there on
sitting on the block may not disturb a

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guy 4 miles away as opposed to sitting
next door in in the

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city
in the city of ours. Yeah. So they don't

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One person's treasure is another
person's trash and that's that's kind of

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the way they treat it out in the county.
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And down in Wayne County, my in-laws
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nobody around.
So we have all kind of

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property,
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cars, tractors.

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Nobody bothers us.
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And hunting stands.

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Well, I think it's very important for us
to have this because then this allows us

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to keep the larger percentage of the
money that we've been collecting for

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this type thing for the last couple of
years. So this is

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really good. Really wonderful that you
consider it and I certainly hope it

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passes.
Well, Councilman Carl Evan researching

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this thing for as long as he's been on
council. So I think we got something we

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can sink our our teeth in.
I commend it.

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Get it done.

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Matt, do you want to say something or
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I thought um

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Hello everyone. first were talking about
it, we weren't sure on the fines and

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Is it too late to change the fines at
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Unless you give an amendment or you give
it a third reading. I mean, if I'm

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reading right, the fine for a deposit of
collection of litter or garbage in a

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mount not more than 15 lb in a area
facility not intended for public deposit

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of litter or garbage
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it's $50 and not more than $150. Okay.
And this is going to have to do with the

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state. Most of this has to do with the
state. Most of this fine structure out

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of the state law. Yeah, but the people
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to the state law can be We can't go
higher? Okay. But if the sheriff writes

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a citation under this ordinance or if I
state ordinance, the people of the

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county govern. Okay.
No, I just okay, that makes sense.

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I was just hoping I have a question
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Um I know that he's been charged a lot
more than that for the subject of

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junking.
It's over 15 lb, so it's

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If it gets like 500 lb, it's
It gets up there. Like $500.

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I think right.
But they've been going by the state law

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on that, so I mean we might need to put
in that in that part of the state law

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ordinance.
I think I think you I think the big

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littering

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This should be in the It's not less than
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considered. Right. It's not less than
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I think the dumping is
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All litter is important, but the dumping
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the kind of like the major problem.
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But that's all I have. I'd like to see
it finally come to fruition.

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Yes, sir.
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If that fee schedule is a part of the
ordinance? Mhm. Yeah. Yes. Yes, sir.

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You got to put your glasses on, James.

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You got any shoes?
Thank you, sir.

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I didn't pick I didn't pick it up. Okay.

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» Any other comments?

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Council?
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Nope.

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Mr. Braden, is that your phone?

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Mr. Gillian?
No. Okay.

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Mr. Sanders?
Anything you'd like to

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leave us with?

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You say no?
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» Okay.
All right.

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If I'm in order, I will call this public
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And thanks again for being here.
At this time, we will call uh regular

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council meeting of May 21st.
And I will ask uh councilman

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Mr. White to do the invocation.

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Let's pray.
Our Father, our God, our creator and our

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sustainer, we just thank you for
allowing us to be here at this moment.

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We ask that uh you enter this session,
that you would guide us through this

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session, that you would give us
knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, uh

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that we take care of all of the matters
for the citizens of Down East Al County.

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These and continued blessings we ask in
your precious son, Jesus Christ's name,

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for his sake. Amen. Amen. Thank you.
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uh three. We do have a quorum, so the
declaration has been made.

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Item four,
approval of the agenda. Can I get a

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motion?
Second. Moved by

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Councilwoman Jenkins, second by
Councilman Cheney. Any questions?

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All in favor, let it be known by saying
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We're down to approval
item five. Approval of the minutes.

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And this is on our
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council meeting and budget workshop.
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April 23rd, 2026 [clears throat]
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county council meeting. I shall make a
motion that we approve the regular

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minutes for 4 23 26 and a special called
meeting on May 12th. Second.

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Moved properly second. Any questions?
All in favor, let it be known by saying

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I.
I second.

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Again, welcome to our regular council
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And we do have
down to item seven, public

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comments. And
like to say that this council welcome

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input from
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community. And uh
I had a conversation today

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about a library.
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I frequent USC library all the time.
It's once or twice a month.

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» [snorts]
>> I do place there.

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Go in
do research and

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have some quiet time to do other things.
So, you know, libraries are very useful.

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For small community, we we're certainly
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happy that the regional library has
always kind of been here and and

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» [clears throat]
>> I will report to council later on about

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our support for our regional library.
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our legislators has increased their
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for the upcoming year, which is good.
And I'm sure at some point

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we will do the same, but
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Lady Reed
and Lady is our branch branch manager uh

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here at the
county library and Lady

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welcome. Good to see you again. Thank
you. Thank you. Glad to be here.

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I just let you give you a little packet
Yes, ma'am.

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» talking about our summer reading program
and it's got all of our upcoming events.

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And it's the theme this year's called
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it's dinosaurs and everything dealing
with dinosaurs. We've got a um

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a fossil dig. A lady comes in and the
children actually get to dig through the

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dirt and find fossils. Great. We've got
a gentleman coming from the state park

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doing um "Sew Like a Soldier". He tells
them how to sew. We've got the South

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Carolina Aquarium coming and we have
lots of other activities. We've got

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"Dino Dollars" that the kids can get
when they read a book, they get so many

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points dollars [clears throat] and they
buy prizes. So we just left you a little

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packet. We just want to invite everybody
to come by. We have stuff for adults. We

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have weekly crafts and activities and
story time. So we just want to invite

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y'all in and tell them about a nice
quiet place to go. You can sit, read a

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book, read a story, read the newspaper,
look at a magazine.

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» Absolutely.
>> Anything you want. But anyway, we

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welcome y'all to the library.
Thanks. Any questions from

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» [laughter]
>> any of the ladies?

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I just got one. You know the
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the numbers of participants coming in
and that number is holding pretty

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steady.
>> It is. It really is. We have a good many

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people using our computers and then we
have story times. We have a lot of

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little children coming in doing story
times and SC Works mobile van comes to

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the front of the library and parks and
we had he had a good many participants

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today with the SC Works.
>> It seemed like it traveled speaking up.

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It is. It does. It really does. Yeah, we
are one of the best kept secrets in

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Allen Dale but we don't want to be stay
a secret.

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Absolutely. All right. Thank you all.
Thank you too.

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And just for council and to Clay and
Judy and Walter uh

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I have invited

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our regional library
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Mrs. Lord, Cena Lord.
She will be with us at our next budget

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meeting
on next Tuesday which will be the 26th.

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I don't think most [clears throat] of us
have not had a chance to meet her but

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she's going to come and and give us an
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you know, what's going on in
and I will

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have some additional information for
council [clears throat] when we go into

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executive session.
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Great.

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And now we're down to Mr. Pinkney.
Library HVAC

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restroom at the Pinkney Park
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equipment at public works. Very good.
So, you're going to bring us good news.

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I hope so. Yes, sir. Good. Okay, you got
some more.

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Good afternoon
to uh

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Chairman Robinson and to the councilmen
and councilwoman and to all the county

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staff.
Good afternoon again.

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Uh
most of my questioning was going to be

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yes or no.
Uh HVAC

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for the library and the learning center.
Does we have we put that

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those H vac units in the budget with a
line item that we will be doing?

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Yes and no.
There is some capital outlay. I don't

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know if it's enough, but there's some
capital outlay in the budget right now.

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For the
that

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» For the capital outlay.
That's a broad That's a broad That's a

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broad statement after the budget is
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non-department part of the budget. Okay.
After the budget passed, then you say,

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"Well, we don't We hadn't budgeted, so
we don't have no money." Okay. All

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right. Same thing with the
restroom at Martin Park.

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You know, we've been tangling with this
thing now for about 3 years. We've done

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had DHEC out there twice.
You surveyed to put in a septic tank

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and letting have them done. So, has we
actually sent out a little something for

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a design of the restroom and then
so that we can give it to PRT

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so PRT can give us, once it's finished,
80% of reimbursement back or 90% of

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reimbursement back. Did we do that? It's
not on my radar right now.

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Mr. Chair, Mr. Yes, I let the recreation
Okay. Oh, thank you.

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Um, that was really going to be a part
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» Okay. Okay. All right. Well, I bypass
that. Mhm. I bypass that. About the

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What did you say? Restroom. The restroom
is you got on your agenda. I don't need

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to belabor that.
Okay, I'm going to talk about it. Okay.

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Now, the equipment for public work. Yes,
sir. Is that in

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the budget?
Other than what the fee

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» for contractual services. What we're
doing right now is trying to determine

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if, since y'all won't pay the lease
directly, we're trying to determine on

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pieces of equipment we can operate
enough to generate enough hourly for

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that for that piece of equipment to pay
the lease if we go through the lease

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process. Okay.
>> some lease numbers. We're just trying to

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figure out whether or not we can run
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equipment operators
to get enough money back from you guys

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to pay the lease.
But could we

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maybe if you don't get enough hours on
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that we get per year and pay for it?
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What's What fee you talking about? The
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fee you're talking about the
the road user road user fee.

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Yeah. That That's used as part of I
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in and helps offset the road
maintenance.

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» Or you're going to end up going to
court. But you know,

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but that's that's your problem. No, the
road maintenance fee the road

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maintenance fee does not generate enough
money to cover the public works budget.

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Right. Right. So there is there
it's not it's not being used for

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something else. It's just part of the
revenue stream. Yes, but the thing it is

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is I can ask this question.
Where What those people are doing now

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while we don't have no equipment?
We're still trying to fix that.

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Yeah. Well, I can tell you one thing I
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our director last week we actually went
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some investigation.
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our director Mr. Terry
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» who knew the problem, I did not know the
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uh once the citizen called we did get
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did some investigation.
I hadn't had a chance to tell you.

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Mr. Kelly knew about it, but I thought
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exactly what was going on.
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prior to that I ran into another citizen
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pretty much been dealing with with some
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And she said, "I was so happy Mr. Terry
rode with me at home

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followed me home and saw the condition
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And
he indicated that yes, we can do

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something until we
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to do
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So, and the same thing would would be
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» would be
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week.
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» And of course we
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And I did correspond with the lady here
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her roadway.
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on a personal note
it was not too too bad, but it's if

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you're traveling every day it's it can
be bad bad bad. So, I think to answer

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your question, we're doing what we can
with what what what we have in terms of

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some equipment.
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I'm a little perplexed because
I think that your initial

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introduction to us was "Hey guys, we can
help." And I'm just waiting to see that

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happen. We still can help, but we have a
hard time getting the numbers.

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We know what it's going to cost at
least, we just don't know whether we can

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run it enough to pay for it.
I need to reimburse him from there. So,

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that's out of my court. That's back in
your court.

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» [laughter]
>> Well, Thank you, sir. Thank you.

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» [clears throat]
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We're down to Ms. Tony Majors.

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» [clears throat]

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» Thank you for allowing me to this
evening. I would appreciate equal time

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to respond to the statement made at the
County Council meeting on April 23rd of

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2026.
I will be as brief as possible.

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For several months, the Office on Aging
Committee was made aware that the

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organization was in severe financial
position. On April 6th, William Robinson

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Jr. presented the committee with a
report showing a total balance of

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$212,544.98

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on bills that were owed. Three had a
deadline payment of May 1st.

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Those were the majority of the ones that
are owed. The two County Council members

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assigned to the committee weren't in
attendance at that meeting. However, the

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debt owed had been a topic of discussion
for several meetings.

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Since I hadn't heard that any progress
had been made to resolve this, I called

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William Jr. on April 17th to follow up
on whether arrangements had been made

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for payment. He told me that there
weren't any arrangements.

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Since some payments were due on May 1st
and another had to have a concrete

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payment arrangement by the same day, it
was decided to have a meeting.

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Furthermore, the 27 2027 budget was
about to be finalized.

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I then called Chairman Robinson to
discuss the impending situation. We

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agreed that a meeting should be held to
figure out what our options were. That

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meeting was scheduled for April 21st at
10:00 a.m.

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It included Chairman Robinson, William
Robinson Jr., the administrator, and

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myself. That meeting took about an hour.
Um the reason that we picked that day is

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the fund budget was finished on the
22nd.

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During the meeting, we discussed how we
could pay State Fleet for the vans that

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we leased from them.
We had to make a viable plan have a

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viable plan in place by May 1st in order
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That total was over $100,000.
We agreed the company would release the

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$40,000 that had already been approved
immediately.

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The contribution of $40,000 was given
the last two

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budgets. [snorts]
Then we figured out approximately what

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would need
need to be put into the budget to help

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sustain the Office on Aging.
In the past, the Office on Aging was not

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considered part of the county and was
supposed to be self-sustaining.

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Since that wasn't possible, it was
agreed to fund the Office on Aging in

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the budget for approximately $200,000.
The meeting then ended.

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Afterwards, William Jr. called the
director of the Office on Aging and

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asked for the reports from July 1
through 2025 through current showing the

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income from Lower Savannah Council of
Governments. I went to the leisure

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center and picked them up and brought
them back to the administrator.

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The administrator, William Jr., and I
figured out the total from those

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reports. That was put into the computer
by the administrator.

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Then William Jr. added some other
revenue sources that I was not aware of.

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The administrator added those in. He
then worked to balance the accounts so

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it could be added to the budget. I never
saw what that final figure was that day.

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At the April 23rd County Council
meeting, the citizens were told that

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this was inappropriate.
And now I do not believe that is

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accurate. A citizen has every right to
express their opinion regarding the

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budget. It's taxpayer money.
However, County Council is the one that

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has the final approval of the budget.
Council received their copy of the

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budget during that meeting last month. I
received my copy after the meeting. I

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never saw the budget before that point.
Budget workshops are public meetings. I

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have attended the majority of them since
Mr. Pinckney was the administrator,

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which is many years ago.
You can observe but not speak unless

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you're asked a direct question.
I would ask that the council seriously

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consider accepting the funding in the
budget for Office on Aging. If not, the

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county is still responsible for that
debt as it falls under the county.

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The nonprofit was dissolved many years
ago.

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We'll have to hope this works, otherwise
we'll be like Barnwell since Generations

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Unlimited closed.
They have We will have no

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transportations for our seniors the same
as those.

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William Jr. just advised me that we did
pay off a couple of those bills since

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this meeting, so that's a good thing.
And we'll just hope that we're

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we're able to pull this off. And I thank
you for letting me clear this up. Okay.

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Thank you so very much.
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I'd like the only
not necessarily correction, but I think

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I was invited to the meeting.
>> Yeah, I called you. You wanted to Yeah.

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Okay.
Thank you so much.

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Okay.

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Now we're down to visitors. I have a
tendency to lose my paperwork here.

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Thanks to Matt and Jared, they kind of
keep me straight here.

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Our first visitor is Dr. Lawrence Ford.
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» And he's going to talk to us about
Forging Father and Family proclamation

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for the month of June.
>> [snorts]

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» Thank you so much. I appreciate I'm
Lawrence Ford, I'm one of the directors

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at the South Carolina Center for Fathers
and Families in Columbia. We are the

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umbrella organization for the entire
state. We were founded in 2002.

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Our mission is to provide the resources
for fathers to become great dads. We

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were founded uh,
by the Sisters of Charity Foundation

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in Columbia in order to help alleviate
family poverty in the state. And they

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realized very quickly in the late '90s
and and after the sale of Providence

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Hospital, what do we do with this money?
How do we help families across the

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state? They realized they needed fathers
in the equation.

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Because um, when a family is whole or at
least operating to where both parents

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are contributing to the the thriving of
that child or children,

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that the families are stronger, the the
fathers are stable providing for their

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children and families, and a community
is stronger. We have strong families, we

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have stronger communities. Every year we
create a theme for what we do, um, here

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going on 25 years. The theme this year
is Forging Strong Fathers and Families.

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And so we have
asked uh, the counties each year to

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declare or proclaim uh, the month of
June as that month. So

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the month of June this year, Forging
Strong Fathers and Families Month. Uh,

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we uh, involve the the governor, we
involve the major cities and small towns

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around the the state of South Carolina.
I I myself have been to six county

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council meetings in the last uh, seven
days.

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It seems like. So um,
and I have to say, I know this is a busy

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time because of budgets and and a lot of
ordinances before the fiscal year end.

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So
uh, I'm I'm always [snorts] trying to be

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mindful of how much work that you do,
uh, especially here toward the end of a

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fiscal year. Our our programs and
services, we're the only statewide

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network that provides fatherhood
programs and services in the United

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States.
We work closely with the Department of

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Social Services,
uh, work with each of their county

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offices. They refer fathers to us in
each county.

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And then we have 17 offices around the
state

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in in major cities.
The we've got some in Beaufort and

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Charleston and
Dorchester County and so forth. And they

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those are 5 days a week full-time
offices where dads can come in either

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voluntarily or they can be mandated to
come in by a family court judge. Maybe

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they're having struggles with child
support payments. And the judge can say

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in family court, you can either spend 30
days in detention or you can go see the

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fatherhood men in the corner there and
they will enroll you in their parenting

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program
and they will help you to [snorts] find

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a job. So that's what we do. We provide
free education. We do not hand out money

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to dads. We provide free education for
parenting, healthy relationships so they

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can get along in the family dynamics as
well as economic mobility. How do you

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how do you get your life economically
stable and mobile to where you can be

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a contributor to your child and to your
family. And then we help we help dads

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with jobs. I was encouraged to hear
about SC Works. We have a partnership

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with SC Works around the state where
they help us to locate fathers and we

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bring fathers to them
in order to do get resume help in order

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to find connections with employers in
their area.

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And then
hopefully we get them the jobs that they

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need. We often say an economic problem
requires an economic solution. And for a

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lot of dads, their struggle with in a
lot of areas,

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a good bit of that can be solved when
you take that financial stress off

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through them getting employment.
We also have physical and mental health

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screening that we do around the state.
We have a nurse practitioner and we work

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with grants from Blue Cross and Colonial
Life to help us fund that nurse

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practitioner to go and have that
education with dads about their their

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screenings and refer them if necessary
to

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regular health or mental health
providers to get the the the help that

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they need. I provided you our 2025
impact report. You can see what we've

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done around the state. Last year we
served 300 3,409

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fathers and over 3,800 children.
We We We come in contact with more.

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And but that's the ones who've actually
gone through our program. We provide

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dads education and in counties where we
don't actually have an office, such as

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Allendale office, our our partner
affiliate that we work through is a

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Father's Place and it has 11 counties
down the coast including Allendale. So

438
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:40,320
we have men that's they're going out to
family court in each county in order to

439
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:45,080
meet fathers and provide them the
opportunity to get the services they

440
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:49,720
need or programs they need. And so your
your uh

441
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:53,880
uh proclaiming June as forging fathers
and families month that it's a real

442
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:59,038
encouragement to us. And
a number of counties in the state are

443
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:02,400
doing this. It is June. It's It's for
[clears throat] dads. It's for fathers

444
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:06,480
because of Father's Day. We want to make
sure dads are remembered.

445
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Dads are recognized. I'm a father and
grandfather and um it's it's always a a

446
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:18,560
joy to know that um
whoever a dad or dad figure in the life

447
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,840
of a child that they are encouraged
because of how they've invested in those

448
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:27,320
children. So thank you very much for
your participation in this. Great.

449
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,760
Council, any questions?
Thank you. Well, Allen, the office is

450
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,600
open and will be located in Beaufort,
you said?

451
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,600
We have uh we have an office in Beaufort
that has our our educational programs

452
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:42,600
and services.
I think the next one over is North

453
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Charleston or Moncks Corner, yeah. So,
yeah, we are still expand We actually We

454
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:50,080
actually opened the Beaufort office just
late last year. Okay. So, we're

455
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,960
expanding that. It's a matter of
capacity. Yeah.

456
00:34:51,879 --> 00:34:58,480
I think the system charity that I've
dealt with was from the Beaufort area,

457
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,600
so therefore me with Allen Dale the
same.

458
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,920
» So,
>> Yes, sir. it's good to know and

459
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:10,360
reading your stats here,
do you have any

460
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:15,080
exact number of the number of fathers
that you serve here in the county?

461
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:21,640
» So, in Allendale, I I apologize. I've
given you for the the coastal areas the

462
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:27,680
the these numbers here for
uh the area and for Allendale in

463
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:31,960
particular, uh the number of fathers our
uh our new data person is brand new and

464
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,840
he's out this week, so
>> Okay. otherwise, I would have asked him,

465
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:40,800
"Tell me about Allendale." Because I
stand before a lot of councils and I

466
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:45,400
want to be as accurate as possible. And
the way that it really works, I was

467
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:51,040
asked uh the other night in um in
McCormick, it is dads do come to us

468
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:55,600
voluntarily. They We have an 800 number
they can call us from anywhere in the

469
00:35:52,800 --> 00:36:00,560
state. Uh we have a contact form they
can tell us who they are, where they are

470
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:05,400
at, and and then what they need. And we
have attorney referrals and so forth for

471
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:11,480
them if it's a legal issue. Uh but then
also we we do recruit fathers. Um I was

472
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,520
thinking about the library system. Uh
sometimes we use libraries in different

473
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,880
counties
and and ask dads to meet a particular

474
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:24,720
time of the month and use the meeting
space available in county in county

475
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,720
libraries so the dads have a place to
meet. We can provide them a seminar and

476
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,680
provide for them the services that we
need. So, I can get [snorts] back to you

477
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,560
on the the exact numbers
here in Allendale. And our library would

478
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:42,360
be
an excellent place for location cuz we

479
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:46,080
we do have the space. Yes, sir. So, uh
And it's it is a matter of uh how how do

480
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:51,680
we serve more? We're [clears throat]
shooting for 5,000 fathers by the end of

481
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:57,520
this year. That's that's up 1,500 dads.
And to do that, we have determined the

482
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:03,520
strategy is we need to more capacity,
more more of our people in two counties

483
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:10,400
that are away from our offices.
And in order to have more time in each

484
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:15,280
county. So, we're we're actually hiring
uh uh on contract some men who will go

485
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:19,120
out part-time, but they'll have they'll
only focus on these outreach counties of

486
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,800
ours. So,
yeah, thank you. Very good. Can I ask

487
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:27,920
you a question? Yes, sir. Sure. Um how
do you how do people know about your

488
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:32,080
services like in Allendale County? Do do
y'all have someone who regularly attends

489
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:38,000
family court here?
That that that is what we do. We have a

490
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:42,200
uh arrangement with DSS that we go at
least they they say only once a quarter.

491
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,280
But, oftentimes [snorts] we go once a
month to family court.

492
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Yeah, and we we work typically through
the clerk of court. Uh

493
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,720
we have a
uh we had a meeting with Jim Swig, who's

494
00:37:53,600 --> 00:38:00,880
the one of the directors of Child
Support Services in Columbia. He

495
00:37:58,116 --> 00:38:06,960
[snorts] asked us to to create a child
support uh information card rather

496
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,520
because there are so many variations on
the AP hearings, for instance. So, that

497
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,120
um
we he he I printed 15,000 of them and he

498
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:22,280
spread them out through all of the DSS
offices in the state. So, and our our uh

499
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:27,480
employees, our staff in each of the
offices, when they go out to each county

500
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:32,560
they connect with the DSS offices. So
whether it's in a court for a hearing or

501
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:37,320
the DSS offices, last year we created a
portal for referrals that DSS

502
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:42,640
caseworkers use. You go online to our
father365.com

503
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:46,520
website, they log in as a DSS
caseworker and they give all the

504
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:51,880
information for a father in that county.
It goes to our office automatically. It

505
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:56,080
serves that county and then they contact
the father. So we have a variety of

506
00:38:53,600 --> 00:39:02,360
ways. We have recruitment and social
media and as well as websites that we

507
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:07,520
get the word out to make sure that we
we can meet as many dads as possible.

508
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,640
We never [snorts] never meet enough, but
we want to meet as many as we can.

509
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,320
Thank you for the question.
>> Thank you so very much and for what you

510
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,080
do.
That [snorts] sounded like a

511
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,320
very fulfilling
job to have really. Seeing a dad get

512
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,640
visitation back with his kids for the
first time in years, I mean there's

513
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:29,440
they're so excited sure and the child is
excited so that it's worth it.

514
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,080
Thank you so much.
>> Thank you very much.

515
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Okay.

516
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:41,760
All right, we're down to
a council report

517
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,600
and
a vice chair Mr. Cheney.

518
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,400
Good evening.
Mr. Chairman before we move forward

519
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:53,240
there is a proclamation that Yes. Yeah,
I was going to get that in new business

520
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,240
but we can

521
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:59,600
But but since Dr. Ford is here well why
don't I get a motion on that please?

522
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:09,320
Uh yeah. Mr. Chairman I move that
uh council proclaim June as Forging

523
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,800
Fathers and Families Month in Alachua
County. Second.

524
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,320
Moved and properly second. Any
questions?

525
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:22,640
I I think we need have to read the
entire proclamation, but we'll make

526
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:27,480
certain that we'll we'll put it in our
records and put it on some

527
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,560
some good paper and have it available
for

528
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,080
» think Judy's going to get that to you.
Okay. All right.

529
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,400
No question. All in favor of it being
known by saying I. I.

530
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,320
Nays.
I said.

531
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,720
Thank you very much.
Thank you.

532
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:52,320
Okay, we're down to council reports and
our vice chair, Mr. Jamie. Good evening

533
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:56,440
again. [clears throat]
The sheriff didn't give me a report, but

534
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,960
I'm quite sure they're still out there
doing what they normally do for the

535
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,920
county.
Especially the litter part.

536
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:09,880
Um as I was riding around the county, I
did notice one of the deputies

537
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:13,960
had a litter traffic stop. Good. And um
I'm glad of that. Like I said, most of

538
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:18,240
the funds from the litter, since it's a
county ordinance, we should get that for

539
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,440
um those funds. And that would be a
tremendous help to the county.

540
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,760
Um
I'm on the officer aging committee, but

541
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:28,360
I'm just going to do that report.
I don't know Mr. Conaway, him is on the

542
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,880
fire department. He might have a report
on that.

543
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,880
Um

544
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:40,160
As I was riding around Sunday, and I
noticed at the old welcome center, um

545
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,000
they there was a
tractor trailer

546
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,560
that got caught on fire and burned up,
but it's still parked in the parking lot

547
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,040
down there.
Um could you check on that with the

548
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,953
sheriff and find out you know, how long
it's been there and what they're going

549
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,720
to do about it? Sure.
>> [clears throat]

550
00:41:52,400 --> 00:42:00,640
» That's it. I'll bring you up to date.
Good. That's a great idea and

551
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,640
that at the uh

552
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:07,720
the old welcome center,
which used to be uh

553
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:13,040
and we used to call it our little closer
Savannah River Alliance.

554
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:17,480
And they used that facility quite a
Had several good events out there.

555
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:22,640
And I've been disappointed that we
removed the entrance

556
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:26,960
corner to keep traffic out.
So, we don't know exactly who's using

557
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:31,200
that facility.
And the barricade's been removed.

558
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:38,360
And it's been some time, so
Mr. Keeling, as you looked at it, you

559
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,560
might want to talk with our public
works. Maybe we can put those barriers

560
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:47,280
back up.
I'm glad the trailer didn't burn up on

561
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:51,200
the highway, but caused an accident, but
we get a lot of traffic that shouldn't

562
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:56,880
be there. Cuz they think
it's an old weapons site.

563
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,440
And they're going to pull up in there.
Thank you, John.

564
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:05,880
Mr. Cannon. Yeah, I'll be brief. Um, I
got some reports from the public safety

565
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:11,440
uh EMS. Mr. Les Sampson in the for last
2 months, they had 242 calls with 159 of

566
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,840
those patients being transported to
Allendale County Hospital.

567
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,069
There's also a rural health
transformation fund grant of $200

568
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,600
million that's going to be available
[clears throat]

569
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:28,320
to various EMS entities in South
Carolina, and they're going to be um

570
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:31,760
talking with council about some ways to
try to go after some of that money.

571
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:35,800
And from Chief Stanley with the fire
department, they didn't get an actual

572
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,480
report of number of calls, but he said
most of all the calls have been brush

573
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,760
fires. I know we've had several out in
Allendale,

574
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:48,160
we're thankful for the firemen and
ladies out there doing a great job for

575
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:52,840
us. Also, on the St. Mark fire station,
uh construction's been slightly delayed

576
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:55,080
due to issues with um
the plats, [snorts]

577
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,680
property plats.
That issue has now been corrected, and

578
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,440
uh permits for the well and septic tank
has been applied for, and he expects

579
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,800
groundbreaking to begin
fairly soon.

580
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,800
Uh
and that's all I have right now. Okay.

581
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Does he still project or
Okay. He said the time. He didn't He

582
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,960
didn't say. He didn't say. He just said
the construction soon. Okay.

583
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,360
All right. Mr. White. Well, thank you,
Mr. Chairman.

584
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:27,720
Uh, Mr. Chairman and Council, um,
I wanted to start with a kind of a

585
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:32,480
feel-good story. On the Saturday, May
16th, I had the

586
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,080
privilege of serving as a judge for
Southern,

587
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,920
um,
Southern Palmetto Regional Chamber of

588
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:45,280
Commerce Civic Speed.
Um, where eighth graders uh, competed

589
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,960
um, for some scholarship funds that'll
be in provided. Um,

590
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:54,840
and it was eighth graders in Barnwell
and Allendale County. And I just, um, I

591
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:58,760
was pleased that uh, three Allendale
County eighth graders, um, excuse me,

592
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,360
seventh and eighth graders,
um, were finalists. And there was

593
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:09,800
actually, uh, one eighth grader, uh,
whose name was Layla Robinson, uh, who

594
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:14,200
was a top five finalist out of, uh, 19
who were selected from essays and

595
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,440
academic achievement, um, during this
academic year. So, it was definitely,

596
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,320
uh, a pleasure for me doing that. And I
would say that, um, I I I wanted to have

597
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Ms. Robinson,
um, as a guest here tonight.

598
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,520
Um,
we couldn't get that in on the the

599
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:34,280
agenda, but in June I would like to like
to invite her to make her presentation,

600
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:38,480
to present her essay, uh, to Council.
And I will I will tell everybody and all

601
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,720
the citizens, it is remarkable. You
know, a lot of times we don't think

602
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,360
about young people
um, paying attention to to what we do in

603
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:49,120
government,
uh, the things that go on, um,

604
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:54,080
the resources that we have in our
community, but but they're aware, um,

605
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:58,280
they're aware of the things that we say,
they're aware of the things that we do.

606
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:02,760
So, um, so that was definitely
enlightening and and, um,

607
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,880
it was very encouraging about our future
in Oconee County.

608
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,640
Um,
I also wanted to uh bring to the

609
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,600
attention, I know that there's been some
interest um that we've all been made

610
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:18,040
aware of
um about development

611
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,280
um in the county and and possibly in the
town. And um I brought this up last

612
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,320
meeting um
the interest in what we're going to do

613
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:31,440
with the dilapidated buildings.
Um and I think that we definitely should

614
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:35,600
explore um HUD CDBG and and I know that
that's come up a little bit.

615
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:42,400
And um
so you know, those CB- CDBG funds uh

616
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:46,280
address demolition of buildings, not
only that, removal of environmental

617
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,560
contaminants,
uh

618
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,640
movement of structures to other sites
and all of those things. So when we have

619
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:55,200
those opportunities, I think we should
look for those notices of funding

620
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:01,800
availability.
Um not only HUD, but uh USDA.

621
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:05,640
So those possibilities are there.
Uh

622
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:09,640
one other thing I wanted to um
look at. I was talking to uh Mr. Killian

623
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:14,800
and um
and Mr. Robinson Jr.

624
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:19,360
regarding um RCI and I got a good report
that things are moving along smoothly

625
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:22,760
with RCI as far as inspections and and
permitting.

626
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Um one thing I I would ask that we do
and we talked about this before is to um

627
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:35,040
work to update our website uh
however we can so that um

628
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:38,440
RCI's permitting process is is updated
on the website cuz we don't have we

629
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:42,080
don't want to have a situation where
uh businesses are are thinking that

630
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:46,240
they're applying on the website because
we don't use that particular form uh

631
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,520
anymore.
Um also I think we need to include our

632
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,640
ordinances
um on our website. I was looking at our

633
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:58,240
website. I know that the the agendas are
updated

634
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:02,360
you know, but um
you know, the minutes from from meetings

635
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,120
and all those things, we need to update
those. And also

636
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,720
council members who have served years
ago

637
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,240
are still
on the website. You know, the group

638
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:15,133
picture.
So So those things need

639
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,320
the group picture.
>> [laughter]

640
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:21,040
» Well, we need to update group pictures.
I mean, you know, we we need to we need

641
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:25,040
to think about how the county is being
presented to

642
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,200
to the world, you know. I agree. Um so
anyway, that's just something we need to

643
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:33,080
work on. Lastly, uh
public works, uh we were supposed to

644
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:36,880
have interviewed uh employees for one
position for public works. It was

645
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:40,200
discussed at our last special meeting.
We didn't have the opportunity to do

646
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,640
that because of the um posting [snorts]
of the job. It needed to be posted 2

647
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:47,240
weeks. So, we should be coming to a
close uh to that and we'll get that

648
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:52,360
interview done.
And absolute last thing, July 6th, um

649
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:56,160
Allendale County Planning and Zoning
Commission

650
00:48:53,480 --> 00:49:01,080
uh will meet again July 6th. So, I'm
encouraging all the citizens to be

651
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,960
present for that.
Mr. Chairman, may I address the website

652
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,960
thing you just mentioned? I know Mr.
Holloway has requested some funding in

653
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,640
the budget this year for us to get
somebody to update it.

654
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:14,360
Great. Great. Great. Yeah. Yeah, I
looked at it yesterday, matter of fact.

655
00:49:12,774 --> 00:49:18,600
» [laughter]
>> Yeah, sure. Yeah.

656
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:21,240
You have a vote, Jamie. That's That
website is the key to the introduction

657
00:49:20,634 --> 00:49:25,040
[clears throat]
to

658
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:30,240
our county.
I visit a lot of the other counties'

659
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:34,240
website and I said, "Oh, wow."
Aiken County has a

660
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:38,000
has a very good one. Even McCormick
County,

661
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:42,080
uh small like us, has an excellent
website. So, we need to do that.

662
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:48,120
And uh
getting folks to update it and

663
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:52,760
and put the things that we need. And And
most of the counties do have past

664
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,680
minutes. Goes back
for years, you know? So,

665
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,280
and I think the public should know what
we're doing. And like you said, the

666
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:04,120
young kid,
Mr. Robinson, he's apparently he's

667
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,240
he's keen on what's happening in local
government. And uh

668
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,120
that's good.
Mr. Chairman, I can comment real quickly

669
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:16,000
on the Aiken website.
They They get awards very often for

670
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:19,200
transparency and and the quality of the
website.

671
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,600
And I've jokingly said there is so much
on that website the reason they get

672
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,134
these awards is there's all that stuff
on the website, there's so much on there

673
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,200
you can't find anything.
>> [laughter]

674
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,080
» It takes you forever to go to the right
spot to find

675
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:36,800
All that stuff's there. They got check
registers, ordinances, minutes, all that

676
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:39,640
kind of stuff. It's not hard to find.
Well, it's not I take that back, it's

677
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,880
It'll take you a while to find, but it's
all there if you take the time to look

678
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,680
for
I remember a couple years ago we went on

679
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:53,400
there just to see how many uh
What were we looking for? To see exactly

680
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:58,280
the tax levy. I think y'all guys have uh
drainage leverage

681
00:50:55,240 --> 00:51:03,080
Stormwater Stormwater fee. Yeah.
And you had plus probably 10 or 12 more.

682
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,400
I would
You know.

683
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,320
Okay.
Thank you, Mr. White.

684
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,200
And
Councilwoman Jenkins. Thank you. Mr.

685
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:17,360
Chairman.
Um first of all, you know, um

686
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:22,040
first um
on behalf of Allendale County Council,

687
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:28,160
um we would like to extend our
condolences to

688
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:30,560
the family of Ms. Sally Branch um
um

689
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,120
on on her passing.
And um just to show that the county will

690
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,960
be doing something Yes.
>> doing something.

691
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,960
» Yes. Ms. Council.

692
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,080
Yes, she might have to do that. Huh?
Yes, she has.

693
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:47,680
She has direction on that. Thank you.
Okay, thank you.

694
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,520
And also um
Attorney Sanders and I have been working

695
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,800
on
uh the Max Sweeney building uh

696
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:58,000
to see if we can get it on the national
historical register.

697
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:01,320
Um,
it's an old building. It used to be a

698
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:07,560
hotel
in in Allendale in South um we've uh

699
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:11,480
gathering information
so that we could present it to

700
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:16,040
um
our guest of state first. State Historic

701
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:20,320
Preservation is the first place to ship
it off.

702
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:23,880
So, uh the State Historic Preservation
Office is generally where that process

703
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,200
starts. Yes, um
so there's a lot of information that

704
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:32,600
we've already gathered
on on that building and um in fact uh

705
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,520
Attorney Sanders' granddaddy is in the
in the deed.

706
00:52:33,861 --> 00:52:37,200
» [laughter]
>> Uh

707
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:42,080
the paperwork that we had that you know
he had something to do with the the Max

708
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,280
Sweeney building. I didn't realize that
that building is not in the best

709
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:50,720
condition.
It's kind of falling apart, but um

710
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,201
I don't know if we can save it or what
we can do.

711
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,920
Um
>> [snorts]

712
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,800
» but anyway, we're checking into it and I
guess we got to do it quickly as

713
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:05,080
possible so it won't fall down but
before we get it done.

714
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:10,960
But anyway, and also on this past Friday
I attended the graduation um Miss

715
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:16,760
Chairman Robinson was there, too
of the at the um

716
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:22,680
Advanced Manufacturing Innovation
Center. Um there were 14 graduates that

717
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:26,560
graduated.
Um I don't know how many were from

718
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:31,840
Allendale, but there were some from
Allendale. There was one from my church.

719
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:36,760
And um it was a nice graduation and the
students were really excited, you know,

720
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:41,800
about getting the certification. And so
we're looking forward to more students

721
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,400
participating in the programs. And in
fact, um,

722
00:53:43,292 --> 00:53:47,600
» [clears throat]
>> I took some flyers with me, you know, to

723
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:51,480
give to students in the community
because many of do not know about the

724
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:56,480
program.
And so, but I gave out of flyers, um,

725
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:00,280
so I guess I have to get some more.
We can get some more for you.

726
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,440
We can get some more for you. Yeah, I
need some because

727
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,720
um, there are many uh, students that
would could benefit, um, many

728
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:11,840
individuals that could benefit from the
program.

729
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,077
But it was a very nice graduation.
And also,

730
00:54:13,422 --> 00:54:16,520
» [clears throat]
[snorts]

731
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,520
» um,

732
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:24,360
uh, the bid submission for deadline for
the walking trail

733
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:28,640
is, uh,
Tuesday, June the 2nd.

734
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,760
Um,
we've been working on this now for a

735
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:36,240
couple of years, so
we're And so, we're finally getting to

736
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:39,400
the point where we can
look at somebody, you know, getting it

737
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,520
done.
But anyway, um,

738
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,840
we'll be, uh,
the office of aging, you know, we have

739
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:53,320
several plans,
uh, once the walking trail is completed.

740
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:58,040
And so, we'll be involved with the
community, the churches, and

741
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:03,360
organizations, whatever,
uh, to promote some other programs

742
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:06,840
centered around the walking trail. And
we may do, uh,

743
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:10,200
um,
a community event.

744
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:15,000
You know,
a big, uh, community event. And you

745
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:21,520
know, the walking trail is not just
about the cement.

746
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Cement is is about the the health of our
senior citizens. And so, by us building

747
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,440
this walking trail,
they, uh,

748
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,400
uh,
the county

749
00:55:30,058 --> 00:55:35,400
» [clears throat]
>> is showing interest in [snorts] the

750
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:39,760
welfare of our senior citizens. And so,
we're looking forward, you know, to the

751
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,280
walking trail because it really, you
know, once I asked my doctor,

752
00:55:41,848 --> 00:55:46,840
» [clears throat]
>> "What's the best thing I could do to

753
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:50,760
remain healthy?" And he said, "Walk." He
said, "Let's walk. Walk." He said,

754
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:55,080
"That's the best thing you could do."
And so I think that's the best thing for

755
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:59,240
our seniors, you know.
It can reduce high blood pressure,

756
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:03,440
diabetes.
Um instead of arthritis, and I probably

757
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,240
need to walk. It's
But anyway,

758
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,640
um
we are I'm really excited about the

759
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:14,040
walking trail because we're we've been
waiting on it for a while now for it to

760
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,080
get done.
Mr. Chairman, also

761
00:56:15,908 --> 00:56:22,600
» [clears throat]
>> uh Mr. Payton mentioned uh

762
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:26,200
the park at Martin James uh
Payton Park.

763
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:31,120
Now, we've been
Mr. Roosevelt is here and and he could

764
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:36,040
tell you we have
uh been working on getting restrooms at

765
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,920
the James Payton and Park for some time
now.

766
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:46,520
And
Lori said that uh

767
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:51,920
we could not use inner park money until
county the county do something about the

768
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:57,080
situation with the 14th Street Park in
Fairfax.

769
00:56:54,040 --> 00:57:03,480
So we've been talking about the park in
Fairfax and moving the playground

770
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:06,160
equipment to another location.
But that's all they're doing, talking

771
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,640
about.
You know, um

772
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Lori said that
the company uh A company will move the

773
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,080
playground equipment for $16,000.

774
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:24,600
And also
if the county did not want to pay the

775
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:29,080
16,000
the

776
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:34,640
the company will work with public works
and move it for $2,500 a day, and it

777
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:39,160
would take about 3 days to move the
equipment uh playground equipment to

778
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,880
another location.
So, I'm asking council

779
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:47,920
uh because we've been talking about it
for a while now, because we can't do

780
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:52,000
anything with the park money.
We can't get any park money until we

781
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:57,520
take care [music] of
that situation.

782
00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:02,360
Now, in Martin, at the park in Martin,
the community have a huge event every

783
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,960
August.
I think this will be the third one,

784
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:11,480
Mr. Payne? The fourth? Fourth one, yes.
Um it's almost a

785
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:14,840
it's almost a mini spring festival
because

786
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:19,520
it's it's a very huge event at that
park.

787
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:24,040
And they do not have a restroom.
And this is for years now, you know,

788
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:29,720
they've not had a restroom.
And so, I think that uh we need to do

789
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:36,080
something about the
14th Street Park in Fair Park, so we'll

790
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:40,880
be able to use the park money to help
out with the restrooms.

791
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Just one question, Council. Woman
Jennings.

792
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:50,490
The issue of the 14th
Street Park

793
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,960
equipment,
>> [clears throat]

794
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:58,560
» is that being mandated by PRT?
Or is that something that in other

795
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:03,440
words, is the mandate
coming from PRT saying that you're going

796
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:09,520
to have to move
those equipment to a different location

797
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:12,880
before we we can disburse PRT money
for another [clears throat] project?

798
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:17,360
» what Laura said. Okay.
I mean, that's what she said. I mean,

799
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,760
she sent me um some information on that.
Okay.

800
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:24,360
» And so, And the reason I ask because
we're looking at doing some things on

801
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,200
the on the uh
on our trail,

802
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:35,720
our trail one trail,
and Where? 301 Trail. Yeah.

803
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:42,000
And the PRT money is is
portion of that money is

804
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:46,920
is included in the redevelopment of that
trail and I just wanted to know if that

805
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:52,920
would jeopardize what we're planning
to do for the walking trail.

806
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:56,640
So, maybe that's a good question we can
we can uh

807
00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:00,960
put the PRT
or they can put to us in writing no

808
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,880
disbursement of additional funds until
we

809
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:09,091
uh move the 14th Street
park equipment.

810
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,111
I think we need to know. Yeah.
>> [clears throat]

811
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:16,320
» Mr. Jolly. Yes, sir. If we're going to
pay somebody, don't we need to

812
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,320
put it out for bid?
You know that

813
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,280
» That's our policy. Well, that's our
policy and I I think before any decision

814
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,000
» you say? What did you say, Mr. Jolly? I
said if we're going to pay somebody to

815
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:29,440
move that equipment, we need to put it
out for bid for our policy.

816
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:34,640
Oh, okay. Well, I'm just letting you
know what Yeah, I mean I know I agree.

817
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:40,800
So, is that what we want to do?
I think we can get verification that PRT

818
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:44,840
will not allow us to use any additional
funds until

819
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:50,160
the equipment has been moved to a
different location,

820
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:55,000
then I say let's move quickly on
establishing that park and getting

821
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:58,960
uh We need that verification on Laurie
from PRT. I mean, who do you I think if

822
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:02,802
PRT going to say that to Laurie, I think
they will put it in writing also. Yeah,

823
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,080
that would make sense to do this.
>> [clears throat]

824
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:10,080
» And do we know where we would relocate
the Fairfax equipment to? Well, that's

825
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:13,440
one of the things that I think
and I would have to

826
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:19,720
refer back to the recreation committee
if they find a location. Okay. But I

827
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:24,560
think that's probably uh
would be the easiest fix. Either we can

828
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:27,720
go back down here on the winter
park

829
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:32,560
and uh
or maybe

830
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:37,480
Almer's Almer's Yeah. Yeah, Almer's. or
Sycamore Sycamore

831
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:40,280
I think Sycamore has kind of taken their
their park back.

832
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,440
And
but I think Almer's certainly would be a

833
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:47,160
good location for it.
And of course we have a little small

834
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:53,840
park at the welcome center
that we do have and have and we have

835
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:57,880
» do some PRT money there. Put up uh
a few uh

836
01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:04,000
recreational
wood equipment

837
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,000
which is holding up pretty well. So.

838
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:11,920
So, I think I'm asking that we do some
verification on that PRT money so we can

839
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,920
move.

840
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:19,000
Okay. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Okay. And
also um

841
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,000
I have a

842
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:26,280
a grant award from Congressman Clyburn
for district six

843
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:30,080
and I might be your last one, you know,
but Well, we hope not. We hope not,

844
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:34,840
though. But it's a grant award for the
amount of

845
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:40,120
and I have copies I made for everyone.
Well, we're very hopeful that you will

846
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,120
deal with uh

847
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:48,600
any congressman that
works with us because

848
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:51,160
for a long time we had uh
Congressman Wilson

849
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,360
and
he does have

850
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,840
Well, the first I can I can finish my
sentence. Well, let me say. Congressman

851
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:02,240
Congressman Wilson does have a
connection to Allen Allen and I'm sure

852
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:07,200
he will do what he can.
Well, the total amount of this award is

853
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,200
$1,572,924.

854
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,480
Um the first um award is um

855
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:20,720
$738,017
and that's for

856
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:25,480
All of this for the airport.
All of it is for the airport.

857
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,480
And um

858
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:35,520
this one is for the uh existing taxiway
aid lighting.

859
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:39,440
Um and this is to replace the lighting
for the taxiway

860
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:45,160
for repairs or whatever the case and
that's for the $738,000.

861
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:48,160
And the the other one is for
$748,101.

862
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:54,960
That is for
the airfield signage and markings.

863
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:59,880
They have reached the end of their
useful lives.

864
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:04,480
And the last one is for
$86,006

865
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,480
and that's for

866
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,600
construction.
Uh

867
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:18,840
this is for
existing runway 7 and 35 runway.

868
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:24,200
And so it's a total of
And and this year

869
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:27,200
uh Carson Carbon has given Elmore County
$3,051,924.

870
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:35,880
For this For the three awards that was
given to Elmore County.

871
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:38,160
The first one was for
uh

872
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:43,280
the
replacing the courthouse roof.

873
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:48,560
Uh the voter registration
uh roof and support

874
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:51,880
needed to be done at the administration
office. I'm not sure

875
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,120
you know, what that was.
>> Okay.

876
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,080
And we received [snorts] that money?
Yeah.

877
01:04:55,160 --> 01:05:01,400
No, most of the time it's the county,
you know, once you awarded the money,

878
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:07,120
you don't get it until, you know, my
September or something like that. I

879
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:10,880
don't know, Mr. Killian.
Yeah, I I'm not exactly sure how this

880
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,360
grant works and we talked a little bit
about it.

881
01:05:12,359 --> 01:05:17,840
» [clears throat]
>> You know, I suppose it was a session. I

882
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:22,800
told you I got a notification
from Grant's office. You couldn't decide

883
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:25,240
whether it was the same Grant or not.
It is the same.

884
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:29,520
» [clears throat]
>> I did not get the the notification

885
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:35,440
from Congressman Clyde's office. William
did. I did not and I was not aware of

886
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,560
this. So,
for which one? That's on the buildings

887
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:41,640
or the one
It's the same Grant that just Jenny

888
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:46,680
talked about the same three Grants that
Jenny talked about. Oh, this one? Yeah,

889
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:49,960
the notification I got from
I did not get a notification from

890
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:54,920
Congressman Clyde's office. William did.
I got a notification for the same Grant

891
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:59,680
from Senator Grant's office.
So, it's We cleared up it's not more

892
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:03,880
money. It's the same
same Grant. Everybody But the FAA will

893
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:07,480
get that money, not Alabama County.
So, I was just No, no, this is It's

894
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:11,840
coming to us. We got this from from
matching here. I I think we're talking

895
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,960
about the best interest of the citizens.
Okay.

896
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Yeah, our consultant airport consultant
Holt Construction,

897
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,200
I'm sure they're on top of it, too.

898
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:32,160
But, I mean any information
any information that you need about any

899
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:37,760
of these Grants,
you can get in contact with Dalton

900
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:41,840
because he's the one that called me in
several weeks ago about these Grants.

901
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:45,280
Yeah.
I do. He will provide you with that

902
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:49,280
information you need.
Councilwoman [snorts]

903
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:53,800
Jennings on the other 1.3 that for the
renovation of of the facility,

904
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:58,320
do you have a similar
paperwork?

905
01:06:55,600 --> 01:07:02,880
I gave it to you. Okay.
I I don't remember the breakdown, so we

906
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,880
can

907
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:10,160
I have it. Do you have the one, Mr.
Killian, for the first one?

908
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:14,560
Uh, William does not.
You have a Miss Cannon?

909
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:18,600
I gave everybody a copy of it.
>> Okay. Well, if you don't mind we uh let

910
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,960
Yeah. That was several months The first
one was several months ago.

911
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:27,760
Let Miss Judy give it to Miss Judy and
let her just first it to us.

912
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,760
Make sure Walter get a copy also.

913
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,806
Make who got? Make sure Walter get a
copy also.

914
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,481
All y'all lost your papers?
>> [laughter]

915
01:07:36,461 --> 01:07:38,481
[snorts]

916
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:46,960
» Miss Cannon? Miss Judy, she will
actually

917
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:51,600
you will scan it and send it to us. Yes.
Okay, I'll find it.

918
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:55,120
Thank you.
That's it for me. That's it. Okay. All

919
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,640
right, thank you.
Very good report. Thanks Miss Jennings.

920
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:03,560
We'll all see you guys.
Thanks.

921
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:06,600
$3 million in 1 year. That's That's
That's really help help the county.

922
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:10,680
» Yeah.
And

923
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:15,240
we're appreciative and
hopefully next year we we do the same

924
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,880
thing, you know.
I'm going to be brief, but I just want

925
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:22,200
to piggyback on this
Councilwoman Jennings uh

926
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:30,680
She talked about SCA and the graduation
program that we had last Friday.

927
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:34,759
Very well attended by the locals and out
of towners.

928
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,480
Uh
I've been

929
01:08:35,412 --> 01:08:40,600
» [snorts]
>> worked at facility over the years

930
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:44,839
and it's seeing the number of graduates.
And by the way, to give you a little

931
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:48,279
history, this is not the first time SCA
has done this kind of work. It's kind of

932
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:54,960
broadened out a little bit.
We offer a lot more, but doing

933
01:08:51,520 --> 01:09:00,960
the time frame with 2010 to 20
15, we did over 145

934
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:03,839
welders that graduated from there. So,
and a lot of those

935
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:10,680
folks are still in our community and
work in Plant Vogal, etc. So,

936
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:14,880
and the inclusion of the drivers,
James, I know you're looking for drivers

937
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:19,040
all the time and there's always
a need for drivers

938
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:22,572
and to be able to grow our own,
I think that's a great. So, my hat's off

939
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,200
to uh
>> [snorts]

940
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:30,319
» to uh
SCA and the Innovation Center. And to

941
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:30,319
the board members,

942
01:09:30,433 --> 01:09:37,080
» [snorts]
>> that served from the county on SCA.

943
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:42,000
Had a conversation with uh
our library folks today and as I

944
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:45,640
indicated uh
Mrs. Lawton will visit us on next

945
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:51,279
Tuesday.
When we meet on the 26th, which I think

946
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:55,760
will be our fourth workshop,
and I think

947
01:09:53,720 --> 01:10:01,480
we ought to be able to wrap it up with
maybe one other,

948
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:07,320
knowing two. So, we'll make it headway.
I look back a couple weeks ago about

949
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:11,400
our budget process.
It was September, October, November

950
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,973
before you actually, you know, got
through that. So, we made a made a lot

951
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,720
of progress.
>> [snorts]

952
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:21,000
» Also, I met with town officials and
folks from Genesis

953
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,400
uh
this

954
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:28,600
this week, couple days ago actually, and
as you know, that's the health entity

955
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:32,880
that's looking to come here. They
purchased land and they're going to be

956
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:37,320
hopefully using
uh the town of Allendale facility for

957
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:40,760
mobile unit.
We've seen a lot of stats on the

958
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:45,360
population uh
Allendale county over the last

959
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:50,240
three to five years.
Most of them

960
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:54,240
says that we're declining in population,
but it what it what it doesn't say is

961
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:58,880
that we
maybe declining and I saw something two

962
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:03,000
weeks ago that said, "Hey,
you know,

963
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:06,719
the state the rural communities will see
an influx of people and that may be the

964
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:11,200
case, but
>> [snorts]

965
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:15,360
» when you talk to folks away from here,
they say your population is declining,

966
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:19,320
but your health care or your healthy
community is getting worse,

967
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,120
you know?
So,

968
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:26,440
and I imagine
groups like Genesis have done their

969
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:30,200
homework and feel like we do need
additional

970
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:33,520
additional uh
access to

971
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,680
medical
facilities. So, we we'll see where it

972
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:42,840
goes.
Also, we had a TAC committee uh 2 weeks

973
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:47,600
ago and uh as you know, couple weeks
ago, maybe a couple months now, we heard

974
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:52,160
from Mayor Allen from
Sycamore

975
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:56,800
talking about the 301 641
intersection and a four-way stop.

976
01:11:55,000 --> 01:12:02,560
But, we
uh last week or week before we did

977
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,669
have a conversation with SCDOT
concerning that

978
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,840
intersection.
>> [snorts]

979
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:13,200
» And they will get back with us and I
think they will study that and see

980
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:18,320
exactly if it if it's feasible. And I
certainly hope it will be feasible.

981
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:23,440
We also had a COG executive committee
meeting last week uh

982
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:27,560
and of course uh
we looked at the budget.

983
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:33,920
And one of the things that was pointed
out that we have not had an increase

984
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:39,360
county portion increase
almost 5 to 10 years. So,

985
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:42,960
we didn't talk about increasing, but I
think within the next year or so, it

986
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:46,560
will be increased.
What do we pay the COG? We pay the COG

987
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:49,400
about $12,500
a year.

988
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:53,160
And that's based on
uh population.

989
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:57,360
And I think for us that's probably adds
up to be uh

990
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,280
a dollar and a half per person looking
at 8,000 people there about.

991
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,640
That's the way it
That's the way it works and you look at

992
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:11,120
Aiken County
170 times a dollar and a half, that's

993
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:16,080
over 200,000. Yeah.
Yes. So, but [snorts and clears throat]

994
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:20,440
even small as we are, we we we do have a
seat at the table and I think Allendale

995
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:24,200
certainly has benefit from uh
being part

996
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:30,240
of the talk.
Our regular meeting for the crew is next

997
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:34,240
Thursday, the 28th and we did have a
Zoom meeting talking about ATP program.

998
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:38,026
That's the uh
asset transfer

999
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,600
transfer program.
>> [clears throat and cough]

1000
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:43,640
» And uh
there's been some downsizing. I said

1001
01:13:41,480 --> 01:13:47,600
downsizing, been some uh
delay in getting equipment off the site,

1002
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:51,240
but
and that's because of the change in the

1003
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:56,600
law and all
mainly. So, we expect the numbers to go

1004
01:13:54,600 --> 01:14:02,080
up and that's where
uh the crew actually get majority of

1005
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:06,880
their money from the sale of those uh
excess equipment. So,

1006
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:11,600
that looks
uh

1007
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:16,320
pretty good moving on and
we had mentioned two things in our

1008
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:22,080
workshop.
I think the Brantley family has asked

1009
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:28,560
council to kind of sit down with them
to talk about the CBD

1010
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:33,920
CDBG CDBG CDBG grant for some things
they want to do. So, I asked them

1011
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:37,320
Ms. Killian and and William to kind of
schedule something. Could be a Zoom

1012
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,000
meeting or face-to-face meeting with
that family.

1013
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:45,320
They own two of the hotels uh
on 301 and apparently they want to

1014
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,400
they want to do something
uh

1015
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:55,440
I don't know what it is, apparently
there's some money on the CDBG program

1016
01:14:52,280 --> 01:15:01,080
that they can have access to.
Also, did attend a Relay for Life last

1017
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:06,160
Friday at the high school.
Probably one of the biggest and best

1018
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:11,280
event that I've seen. They
had good participation from Mobile

1019
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:16,800
County and uh
I think everybody certainly enjoyed it.

1020
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:21,480
And as you know,
Relay for Life is all about cancer

1021
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:26,560
prevention and awareness, and I think
they're doing good job. So, I was happy

1022
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:32,760
to see that the county was sponsor, and
I hope we continue to uh

1023
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:38,200
sponsor such a very eventful
and very important event in this county.

1024
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:43,280
So,
a lot of laughter during that

1025
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:48,120
that time period, but also [snorts] a
lot of genuine concern about

1026
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,960
our health factors here in the county.
So, I will ask, you know, I will

1027
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:56,440
recommend to council if you get a
chance, uh

1028
01:15:53,440 --> 01:16:00,440
I think our own Elaine Savage here from
the clerk I called she kind of has that

1029
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:04,840
up for us. So,
uh

1030
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,840
just let them know job well done.

1031
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:13,000
Also, I did ask Mr. Ude to reach out to
superintendent

1032
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:18,400
uh Cave
about the MOU.

1033
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,400
I did receive a uh
receive

1034
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:26,160
comments
that they were concerned about two

1035
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:30,040
things, and I think they're easy fix.
One of them we won't fix,

1036
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:34,160
but it was something about a signature,
who's to sign.

1037
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,240
And I think we will stay
the way

1038
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:42,360
the way that is, but I think we can fix
the other. And Walter, I don't know you

1039
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:45,880
may not be aware of it. I'm not aware of
it. Okay, and

1040
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,880
I [clears throat] don't know if the
studio were you able to get anything

1041
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,640
back? She told me she was going to call
me again.

1042
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:55,680
She never called.
Okay. When when I talked to her, I asked

1043
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,680
her
about it. Yes. And

1044
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:04,520
she said she would call you back.
Okay. And I maybe more concerned cuz

1045
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:08,760
what I got was kind of
do or die great ride, so you never know.

1046
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,880
But anyway, I know
I hand delivered it to her and I know

1047
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:15,480
you sent
email on that, right?

1048
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:22,000
We'll see and I look for her
get in touch with me and we'll go from

1049
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,800
there.
Okay?

1050
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:30,160
And lastly, I think we I think I sent
counsel out

1051
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:35,840
sent to counsel by email what we
received from Mrs. Fitz, town of Allen

1052
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:39,840
Dale about the winter ball.
And I asked that you take a look at it

1053
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:43,040
and maybe we can talk in depth about it
but

1054
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:47,720
and our budget meeting.
Okay?

1055
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:53,320
Also, elected officials basically I
think it's been a general rule here at

1056
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:56,920
for council since I've been here that
we don't tie the hands of elected

1057
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:01,480
officials. They kind of
have a way of hiring their own folks

1058
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:06,080
etc. So uh
and I know personnel committee has kind

1059
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:11,440
of followed that protocol, so
and I hope we can continue to do that.

1060
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:15,800
Department heads and etc. I think they
have any choice. Excuse me?

1061
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:19,760
I said I don't think you have any choice
cuz the elected officials are over their

1062
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:22,960
offices and
Thank you, Walter. And that's what I was

1063
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:26,800
saying from the county.
That the county's probably coming from

1064
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:30,760
Sheriff Cleveland calling me today. He
called me today to ask me if it was okay

1065
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:33,720
to hire somebody.
And I told him, well, I thought it

1066
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:37,280
didn't matter but he wanted [snorts] to
prove to some you know, if he wanted

1067
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:42,080
approval if he needed approval or
whatever. Sure.

1068
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:45,680
And but agree with Walter. May I ask you
a question?

1069
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,800
And one of the things too, I think that
you know, the kicker on this thing is

1070
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:56,280
the fact that
you know, we gave him

1071
01:18:51,120 --> 01:19:00,240
the ownership or oversee of E911, which
prior to that, it was pretty much open.

1072
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:05,880
You know, the personnel committee did
just like in that. So,

1073
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:09,640
now it's a kind of a new day and it it's
his baby, so to speak, and

1074
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:13,320
we expect him to go ahead and handle and
I think he's doing a good job. So, I

1075
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:18,000
agree. Can I add one thing? We just we
just need to be sure that they're

1076
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:21,200
following our hiring or
the county's policies on drug testing

1077
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,800
and and you know, they still need to
follow the same policies, but they can

1078
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:30,080
» Well, what happens and and Mr. Bridges
asked me about that today, what will

1079
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:33,480
happen is if a person now has
that is hired will have to still submit

1080
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:37,000
to the
pre-employment stuff. If they've already

1081
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:42,400
started and they fail, they [snorts]
will be unemployed.

1082
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:45,640
That's immediate? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Okay. That's all I have.

1083
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:50,640
» I've got one question if you don't mind.
Sure. On the Genesis Healthcare, Mhm.

1084
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,960
are they looking at building in the side
of the town of Valley View or the

1085
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:56,720
county?
Or in the town of Valley View.

1086
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:01,480
I know the property that they that that
they purchased is within the town

1087
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:05,760
limits. So, the town will be handling
all that. Whatever what incentives We

1088
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,000
won't have any
say in that.

1089
01:20:07,755 --> 01:20:12,280
» [snorts]
>> I think if they ask for anything in

1090
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:17,960
terms of incentives,
it may, but I don't know of a healthcare

1091
01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:21,400
facility that's that generally they
don't they don't need that. You know, if

1092
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:25,520
they're going to come, they're going to
come as is.

1093
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:29,240
Now, the town providing water, sewer,
they may may get get a break on that,

1094
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:33,440
but
I don't see the county having to

1095
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:37,880
participate in in in any way, but Well,
we do believe

1096
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:42,470
um very important all of us to be aware
Oh, yeah. Yeah. for those concerns. I

1097
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,640
agree. requested.
>> [snorts]

1098
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:50,680
» As we look at their investment numbers
at some point and SEA may need to get

1099
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:53,280
involved. I'm not really sure on that.
Okay.

1100
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,800
Mr. Kelly.
Mr. Chairman, very quickly I have a

1101
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:59,600
couple of items. Um
Mr. Payne mentioned the leisure center

1102
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:04,520
and
walking trails specifically, but

1103
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:08,520
um the CTC, Mr. Payne, you thank you,
has programmed money for the leisure

1104
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:14,000
center driveway paving
uh or entranceway paving and also for

1105
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:18,480
the old Orangeburg road work repair.
So, those funds will be available to us

1106
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:23,600
and we should be
uh waiting to talk about

1107
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:27,520
all of business
13A in just a minute.

1108
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:31,720
Uh but that money's been made available
to us for those two projects.

1109
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:35,320
Uh I think I mentioned last month that
the Rural Infrastructure Authority has

1110
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,080
given us a notice to proceed with the
Hampton Manor water and wastewater

1111
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:44,440
improvements.
Um we now have signed contracts with um

1112
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:48,120
the contractor we had a
previous meeting is Lake Murray

1113
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:52,320
Construction. They were I think I
awarded that actually last meeting. We

1114
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:56,560
had the pre-construction
pre-construction meeting and all the

1115
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,080
contracts are signed. So, that work if
it hasn't already started out there in

1116
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:02,480
the county, I don't know if they started
dropping pipe but when I go out there,

1117
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:05,120
you'll see a lot of work
going on

1118
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:09,400
out there very shortly if it hasn't
started already because they've got a

1119
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:11,720
deadline of September, I think, to get
everything in the ground and working.

1120
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,720
So,
that should be up and going and and then

1121
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:19,840
the last thing I have
McAfee attended a webinar this morning

1122
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:25,240
on opportunity zones.
Uh the new program has been changed and

1123
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:30,560
it has put some limitations on it, but
the deadline for submitting nominations

1124
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:34,880
for census tracts that
qualify for opportunity zones is June

1125
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:38,560
15th and I can't believe that I'm going
to meet next week

1126
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:41,040
to try to look at the interactive map
and everything that the Commerce

1127
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:44,520
Department has out there for us and
we're going to be submitting something

1128
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:48,080
for an opportunity zone
for our community. I think it's a

1129
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:52,280
a real opportunity,
no pun intended, opportunity to

1130
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:56,440
attract some capital investment and
things like that. So, we just The first

1131
01:22:54,320 --> 01:23:00,720
thing we need to do is get those
census tracts nominated and then the

1132
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:05,880
governor's going to be He He has to
choose. It can't be more than 25%. It's

1133
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:10,520
25%. Yeah, and so of the tracts
submitted, so

1134
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:16,640
I think he's got to I think it's 90 60
days till September, I think, to uh

1135
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:19,840
to approve those or recommend them to uh
the feds for approval, so

1136
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:23,160
um
we'll keep you informed along the way on

1137
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:27,640
on how that is going to work, but I
think there's a a good chance for us to

1138
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:30,920
get some maybe some in in tract attract
some capital investment, too.

1139
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:36,000
Yeah.
That's my report, Mr. Chairman. Okay.

1140
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:40,160
Mr. Sands.
I just have one thing. Um

1141
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:47,320
as y'all remember the concurrent
resolution concerning the um

1142
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:54,400
Sgt. Arianna Tejada J. Smith Memorial
Road has been approved by both the

1143
01:23:50,440 --> 01:24:03,080
House and the Senate on the May the 7th
and I was notified today that the actual

1144
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:08,720
road signs will be at at the local uh
Department of Transportation tomorrow.

1145
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:12,073
Great. So, um
what the county's got to do

1146
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:14,840
» never moved that fast.
>> [laughter]

1147
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:18,160
» I was surprised
you know that they're already here, but

1148
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:23,520
um
the late tomorrow I talked with um

1149
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:27,760
Angela
who is the uh of the DOT down there and

1150
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:32,960
um
she says it'll come they'll come in

1151
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:38,240
tomorrow. She she'll want time. So, they
wouldn't be able to install them until

1152
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:44,000
sometime late next week.
Or whenever the county wanted it done

1153
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:47,960
because I told her that it would um
that the county would probably want to

1154
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:51,200
do a ceremony. And what they would do
would, you know, erect the signs and

1155
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,840
then they
and then they would you know, they would

1156
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:59,760
cover them and at the ceremony they
would be unveiled.

1157
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:05,480
So, what y'all and I had talked with
Roosevelt about it since he was sort of

1158
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:10,000
heading up the group out there and um
I made made sure he was coming tonight

1159
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:15,080
because y'all really need to decide when
you want to do something and what you

1160
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,080
want to do.

1161
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:22,000
And I agree and I think council will
hopefully address that. Maybe we'll talk

1162
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:24,720
a little bit of about it in executive
session.

1163
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:30,240
Or
maybe at our next budget workshop. But I

1164
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:35,160
kind of envision you know, getting some
input from the family what's available

1165
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:37,760
for I I spoke I spoke with the brother
today

1166
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:41,680
and um
she uh had a date talk with me in a

1167
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:45,560
couple couple three weeks from now and
she gathered us some information and put

1168
01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:48,920
it out at the Smoke Panel Village
to be part of the ceremony and and

1169
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:53,040
celebration.
So, we're going to get feedback from her

1170
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:57,920
as what would be convenient for the
family? Yes. They will give us a date?

1171
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:03,400
They will give you a date. And a time?
Yes. And hopefully that

1172
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:06,920
hopefully I can put the sign up a day
prior to the event because you don't

1173
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,800
want it out there prior to that. No. So,
we want to snatch

1174
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:14,840
back off you know, like a weekend
advance. Sure. So, um

1175
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:17,080
yeah, we will be getting back with you
in the The

1176
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,920
day or so or uh
I would say, you know,

1177
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:24,640
let Mr. Killian know we know it. I will
do it. As you know.

1178
01:26:23,729 --> 01:26:28,080
» [snorts]
>> Very good, Walter. That's very speedy.

1179
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,800
Go ahead, sir.
Well, I will um

1180
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:34,440
I will let her know
you know, what what's going on with the

1181
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,680
county.
And um

1182
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:41,520
cuz I'm sure they'll wait for the you
know, the county let her know when they

1183
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:47,120
want to put them up. Cuz they'll they'll
put signs on each end of Moody Road. And

1184
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:51,680
then they've also got two um
family signs that they give to the

1185
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:54,160
family. Okay. Very good.
Very good.

1186
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:59,920
Well, this is
we wait

1187
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:03,800
Wait, you know, to get more information,
you know, time-wise, date-wise. [snorts]

1188
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:07,480
And I imagine from the council's
standpoint of view and the Clayton,

1189
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,800
William, and Judy can help us out, you
know,

1190
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:18,680
should be a small ceremony. Sure. And
I don't see any

1191
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,680
you know, any uh

1192
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:25,040
refresh my head like that. Just kind of
I'm ready to sign and let's go home. And

1193
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:28,680
you probably want to invite the sons to
the hotel and

1194
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,760
and let them Sure. Cuz they're the ones
that

1195
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,200
the ones that actually, you know, pushed
it through.

1196
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:39,000
And also
notify the paper so they'll put

1197
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:42,160
something Absolutely. And hopefully have
a tent out there, too. So, it's probably

1198
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,440
going to be hot.
Oh, yeah.

1199
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,680
Okay.
Walter, anything else? Okay.

1200
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:54,720
Thank you.
We're down to

1201
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:57,960
old business and item A, third reading
of an ordinance to provide for the

1202
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:02,200
control
and prevention of litter and illegal

1203
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:08,640
dumping within Iredell County, to
provide procedures for the enforcement,

1204
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:13,320
to provide penalties for violation of
this ordinance and and matters related

1205
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:17,080
thereto.
I'll a motion that we accept third

1206
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:19,666
reading of ordinance delivered control
ordinance. Second.

1207
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,840
Moved and properly seconded.
[cough and clears throat]

1208
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:26,720
Any question?
All in favor, let it be known by saying

1209
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:31,280
aye. Aye. Okay. Item B, second reading
of an ordinance to establish operating

1210
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:36,960
and capital budgets for the County of
Allendale, South Carolina for the fiscal

1211
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:41,240
year commencing July 1, 2026
to provide for the levy of taxes for

1212
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:47,080
Allendale County for the fiscal year
commencing July 1st, 2026

1213
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:52,520
to establish fees and service charges
for Allendale County for the fiscal year

1214
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:57,440
commencing July 1, 2026
to provide for the expenditures of tax

1215
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:02,160
revenues and other county funds to
provide for other county purposes to

1216
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:08,560
provide for certain fiscal and other
matters relating to county government

1217
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:12,640
and other matters related thereto.
Can I get a motion?

1218
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:16,080
This is second reading. So moved.
Second. Moved and properly seconded.

1219
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:21,237
Second reading
of our ordinance establishing our budget

1220
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:24,120
for 2026.
>> [clears throat]

1221
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,531
» 27.
Any question? [snorts]

1222
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:33,520
All in favor, let it be known by saying
aye. James, I saw your hand lastly.

1223
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:37,840
No, we're good. Okay. Well, you can
always have a sidebar conversation with

1224
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:46,280
us.
Okay. New business.

1225
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:53,640
Approval of bid from Steve Steeds Paving
in the amount of $47,700

1226
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:56,607
for the CTC Leisure Center
resurfacing project.

1227
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,400
Mr. Chairman,
>> [clears throat]

1228
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:03,520
» I mentioned this in my report that uh
might have been set aside for that.

1229
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:05,760
Williams been the point person on
getting the quotes for that. I'm going

1230
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,360
to let him
state process and what not.

1231
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,440
Okay.
And now we got you.

1232
01:30:09,707 --> 01:30:15,480
» [clears throat]
>> Yes, Mr. Hurd, Cooper gave me a list of

1233
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:20,160
contractors. They don't have been in on
paving projects in the

1234
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:26,120
area before. And I sent them invitations
to bid on the project. There were three

1235
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:31,400
that submitted bids. One was a no bid.
The second bid was for 80,000 400 and 40

1236
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:37,000
dollars.
Uh and the lowest bid was from Steve

1237
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:39,720
Paving for 47,000 700 dollars.
Okay.

1238
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,720
You feel that we followed the right
procedure and

1239
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:48,560
Mr. Cooper told me that this would
satisfy the CTC's purchasing department.

1240
01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:53,640
Okay. Very good. Can I get a motion?
Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve

1241
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:58,120
Steve Paving's bid. Second.
Second. Moved and properly seconded. Any

1242
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:01,880
question? All in favor let it be known
by saying aye. Aye.

1243
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:07,800
Eyes have it.
Item B, selection of a firm to conduct

1244
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:12,588
energy saving audit. That's something
that we've been talking about for a long

1245
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:14,440
time. Mr. Killian. Mr. Chairman, we did
>> [clears throat]

1246
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:18,560
» we did put out a
an RFP for

1247
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:21,320
the these companies that do this kind of
work, energy savings performance

1248
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:26,560
contracts.
We received two bids, two proposals.

1249
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:30,080
I wouldn't read every word of this one.
He stole it.

1250
01:31:28,308 --> 01:31:34,760
» [laughter]
>> One was from Schneider Electric and one

1251
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:37,520
was from Ameresco.
Uh the folks that do the tires and

1252
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,600
things.
Uh we we really haven't been through

1253
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:44,400
these proposals. We didn't read every
word, but we've been through all of the

1254
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:48,920
heavy stuff and and I can I can tell you
that both pro- both

1255
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:52,680
companies have the capability of doing
what we're trying to do.

1256
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:57,000
Um and they both have the financial
wherewithal to guarantee the savings and

1257
01:31:55,240 --> 01:32:00,360
and that kind of thing. So, we would be
very comfortable with either one. The

1258
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:03,760
tipping point I think probably for us
and we're going to recommend to that you

1259
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:08,240
go with Schneider Electric. Their
proposal included all of our

1260
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:11,760
telecommunications, phones, and all of
all of that stuff to make sure that

1261
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:15,480
we're
getting what we're supposed to get when

1262
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:19,160
we're when we're paying for it. Okay. Uh
so, there's really

1263
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:23,040
not much of a catch, but there is a
possibility of a catch. What we What

1264
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:27,480
we're going to ask you to do
is approve approve

1265
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,560
and Mr. Sanders has not seen this
agreement, so I would make it if you do

1266
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:33,640
make a motion to do this, I'd make it
contingent upon

1267
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:36,280
Walter being comfortable with this
agreement. I did not see anything

1268
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,320
egregious in this. It's a very short
agreement.

1269
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:42,960
This is what they call an
investment-grade audit agreement.

1270
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:46,200
They come in and look at all the
buildings

1271
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:49,600
and come back to us with recommendations
on which buildings to do what to.

1272
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:56,760
Um
the only catch is if they um

1273
01:32:54,560 --> 01:33:01,440
if we decide not to go forward,
then there's a $40,000 fee for them to

1274
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:05,000
do that to a done that audit and provide
those recommendations

1275
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:08,640
We decide not to move forward with it,
there's a different agreement uh what do

1276
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,680
you call what they call that agreement?
Um

1277
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:16,280
There's a different agreement to move
forward. I I'll find that name.

1278
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:20,880
Uh if y'all choose not to do it, then
you'll owe them the $40,000 for the

1279
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:24,880
audit that they did. Mhm. If you do move
forward, that's rolled into the cost and

1280
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:28,160
they'll pay for that with the savings
that's generated from that.

1281
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:32,640
Um
the um

1282
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:37,760
The other catch is if they cannot
find the savings, always a

1283
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:42,000
chance. If they cannot find the savings
and guarantee the savings, you'll be uh

1284
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,560
on the hook for that $40,000, too. I
don't think that's going to be a I don't

1285
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,440
think that's going to be a problem.
Okay. Uh

1286
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:51,000
so, what when you get into that other
agreement with them if you if you go

1287
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:54,520
that route, they will guarantee the
savings that they say they'll get, they

1288
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:58,320
will pay
uh they will help you get financing. We

1289
01:33:56,120 --> 01:34:03,160
have to finance it up front, and then
the savings you get will pay back

1290
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:05,880
the loan or the financing that they get
in place for you.

1291
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:09,480
Um so,
if you go forward and they can and if

1292
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:13,320
they if the savings doesn't come back
like they say it will,

1293
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,960
they'll pay the difference.
Um it won't be something that you'll be

1294
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,680
on the hook for.
Um

1295
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:22,600
these are pretty um
common practices out there.

1296
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,040
I've done several of them throughout my
career.

1297
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:29,280
And they've always worked out in my
favor of the company. Mhm. Uh and that

1298
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,440
we get Now, we've done some set things
here, but

1299
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:35,000
» Yeah.
uh if we do what they recommend we do,

1300
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:38,280
and we get the financing help with their
help to get it,

1301
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:42,280
then they'll they'll pay for it either
through the savings or their own pocket

1302
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:46,440
to get the um
the um

1303
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:48,880
program in place. And Schneider
has already done some work for us here

1304
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:52,880
at the facility.
>> They did They did an initial

1305
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:56,680
walk-through.
Uh in fact, we have um

1306
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,800
I don't know if they made you
recommendations, but I don't think they

1307
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:04,400
got recommendations on which buildings
they think probably will get us those

1308
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:07,560
savings. Okay.
Um but yeah, they have.

1309
01:35:06,440 --> 01:35:11,440
What do you have anything else to add to
that? Um yeah, they did an initial

1310
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:16,440
walk-through. There was some things with
the buildings they recommended, you

1311
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:21,560
know, and a lot of doors with gaps where
it was causing energy loss. There could

1312
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:25,280
be some savings there. But um
yeah, they they definitely have a lot of

1313
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,760
recommendations which they think could
improve our energy

1314
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:32,040
efficiency.
For 40,000,

1315
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:37,040
if they can guarantee that moving
forward, that's two mills better that we

1316
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:40,760
can in in Well, that's I think they'll
be able to to bring in a whole lot more

1317
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:44,600
savings than that. Just to be honest. I
mean, that's my guess. Now, we may That

1318
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:48,320
may prove me wrong. So, they come up
with they come in and do the audit, give

1319
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:51,960
us a proposal. If we don't accept it,
they owe us 40 grand. Right.

1320
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:55,000
If we do,
we'll go into that other agreement with

1321
01:35:53,440 --> 01:35:58,080
them and they'll start doing the things
to save the money enough to pay off the

1322
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:02,280
money.
But they will have a rate.

1323
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:06,880
Any idea what that's going to be the
cost to do all the things? No. I think

1324
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:10,200
it's kind of wait and see. Right.
They're going to get 40 anyway.

1325
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:17,320
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Guys, what's your pleasure?

1326
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:23,280
You need to choose a company name. I
mean to me, I mean I don't know I don't

1327
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:26,960
know if I'm going to try it or not, but
I mean I'm

1328
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:32,000
No, I I mean at first at first at first
sight I don't like it, but

1329
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,720
It's not an act. I mean $40,000 to make
it a sound on it, you know, I don't

1330
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:37,280
know.
Well, But I mean you have an experience

1331
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:41,240
with these type of products and these
type of companies. There's I mean there

1332
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:45,880
are there is that possibility you have
to pay $40,000 if you if they don't come

1333
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:49,640
up with enough savings. I don't have
enough experience to to make that

1334
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:52,480
decision. I would be I would yield to
you to to

1335
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:56,880
to give us some clarity and some
recommendations. Yeah, I think these

1336
01:36:54,280 --> 01:37:01,720
things um
I have not seen one yet.

1337
01:36:59,960 --> 01:37:06,840
I'm sure there is one somewhere, but I
have not seen one yet that did not

1338
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:11,280
produce savings enough to cover
the cost of what you have to do to bring

1339
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:14,880
to bring the cost of your energy down.
In your energy And and and if they if

1340
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:18,720
they if the savings doesn't, they're on
the hook for what's the difference. I

1341
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:22,080
mean if you have the payment is
$40,000 a year and they only save

1342
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:25,960
$30,000 a year, then they got to pay the
other 10.

1343
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:31,440
So. That's a
That's a catch all for us, you know, but

1344
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,440
I'm

1345
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:38,440
I can tell you it's we got to do
something versus nothing.

1346
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:42,320
I don't see the cost of energy going
down,

1347
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:47,840
you know, so if we can
spend 40 with the hopes of saving And

1348
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:52,120
you may not even spend the 40. it.
In your experience Clay, I mean how many

1349
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:56,560
years would it take to recoup recoup
those savings to pay for I mean I know

1350
01:37:54,320 --> 01:38:01,040
that's probably a loaded question but I
think it depends on the amount of money

1351
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:05,880
we have to finance up front
versus the savings that they think it

1352
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:11,400
will generate. The two will marry itself
up. If they think they can save

1353
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:15,360
$50,000 a year in
um

1354
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:20,000
doing all this stuff and $50,000 will
retire X amount of debt.

1355
01:38:17,480 --> 01:38:22,440
So they may even phase it at some point.
And they're going to find financing for

1356
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,760
this project.
>> They'll help us locate financing. And if

1357
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:29,200
they don't, what's
I mean if we can't get financed, I mean

1358
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:32,280
Well, that that would be a that would be
a problem obviously. If we can't get

1359
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:35,520
financing,
then we'd be on the hook for that 40,

1360
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:38,680
but I I think in these kind of
situations with a company the size of

1361
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,920
Snyder
or even in Marasco

1362
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:45,760
backing
the payment cuz that would be involved

1363
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:49,120
in paying paying that payment if the
savings isn't there.

1364
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:52,680
I don't think financing will ultimately
be a problem.

1365
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:57,960
I think the financing piece is actually
back up what they say can be done. So

1366
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:03,840
their name is certainly out there and
their reputation. Oh sure.

1367
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:07,000
So I mean it's not without some risk.
God I understand that

1368
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:12,840
My experience is the risk is worth
taking. And I recommend that we take

1369
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:16,240
that risk council.
So uh Would you send it to me about the

1370
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:21,240
10th of the month or look at all of it
or something? He has not seen this

1371
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:26,440
agreement yet. Right. It's always been
my practice to have the county attorney

1372
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,440
look at any agreement that

1373
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:31,560
We can make a motion I have no intention
of practicing law without a license. I

1374
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:34,800
don't want to be accused of that
anymore.

1375
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,520
I've [snorts] been around lawyers all my
career.

1376
01:39:36,288 --> 01:39:41,880
» [laughter]
>> But it doesn't have the two things that

1377
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:45,600
everybody says. It's laws of this state
and does not have any implications

1378
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:50,880
Can
I would recommend that we

1379
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,880
uh

1380
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:59,400
pass a motion with
the uh

1381
01:39:55,800 --> 01:40:04,800
claim that if our attorney
have any doubts about it or concerns

1382
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:09,320
it would be base
considered be null and void if they find

1383
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:13,360
something that that
that we need to be aware of. And we

1384
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:16,480
going with Snyder? Yes.
Snyder.

1385
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,240
Second.
Well, I can't I can't make the motion.

1386
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:22,640
» I make the motion
I make the motion that we go with Snyder

1387
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:26,200
Electric
contingent to our county attorney

1388
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:29,520
approving it.
Second.

1389
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:33,160
Move it properly second we go with the
bid from Snyder

1390
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:36,320
uh
with the understanding that

1391
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:41,400
uh
it will take the approval of the county

1392
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,400
attorney to move forward.

1393
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,520
Any question?

1394
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:50,680
All in favor let it be known by saying
aye. Aye.

1395
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:54,360
Opposes? I say
Okay, we're down to

1396
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:59,720
executive session we'll take a five
minute break and

1397
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:04,600
So we all agree we get out of here
by 8:00. It's 7:38.

1398
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,240
Yeah. Hold on.
You running the show?

1399
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,920
» Mhm.

1400
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,920
» Mhm.

1401
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:26,920
» Mhm.

1402
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,920
» Mhm.

1403
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,920
» Mhm.

1404
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,920
» Mhm.

1405
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:06,920
» Mhm.

1406
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,880
» Mhm.

1407
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:56,920
» Mhm.

1408
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:51,920
» Mhm.

1409
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,920
» Mhm.

1410
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:41,920
» Mhm.

1411
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:36,920
» Mhm.

1412
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:31,920
» Mhm.

1413
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,920
» Mhm.

1414
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:27,920
» And
I'm asking if there any action need to

1415
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:31,680
be taken at this point.
I'm sure I'll make a motion we adjourn.

1416
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:37,880
Second. Moved and properly second. Any
questions? Any concerns? All in favor?

1417
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:40,120
Aye. Let it be known by saying aye. Aye.
Have a good