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r with the uh Department of Natural
Resources for land acquisition uh this

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is a view from the West End of the lot
uh the the car is not part of the site

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but but uh it's the two and a quarter
acre lot at 605 South Main Street just

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south of the Creekside Hearth and on the
south side of the North Branch of the

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Clinton
River and there are two buildings that

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are currently on the site and there
might be a closer picture that a better

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picture that shows what those look like

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um talking about this
one this is an aerial view of of the

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site

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there we go okay so there's a the
building that's closest to the river and

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then this slightly larger building
here uh both of the buildings have uh

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been vacant for many years at this point
uh and have not weathered the storms as

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well as one might have hoped uh I know
initially when this idea was broached

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with our friends at The Parks Board uh
there was the thought that maybe one or

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both of these buildings might be able to
be used for storage purposes because

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that's part of their uh um project plans
for the next year or two is to uh

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acquire a shed or have a building that
they can house a lot of their equipment

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in for storage purposes uh I don't know
that either one of those buildings will

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suffice without uh a lot of improvement
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aesthetically uh both buildings are
locked up where you can't gain access

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without removing the locks and so that's
obviously something we would have to

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work with the owners uh going forward to
be able to see firsthand what the uh the

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interior of the buildings look

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like so the front part of this parcel is
a vacant as you can see here uh part of

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our strategy for acquiring this property
is to be able to have access off of m53

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this is the old Ingress egress to the
site when it was used for uh Implement

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purposes many years ago and maybe some
uh small Machining as

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well um this area is not in the flood
plane the rest of the property on this

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half is in the flood plane and we would
anticipate that we would be able to do

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some uh uh parking area over here would
be

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gravel so that we're not dealing with
any type of runoff off of

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asphalt okay

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Kim this is just

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showing the uh the Park area as you go
further back on the

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property uh and you can see
uh the the these are the uh tennis

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courts I believe that's the Lions Club
there eyes are not deceiving me this is

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our DPW Yard
here this is Water

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Street and this is the Creekside
Hearth business

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establishment and so you can see the
river that's running along

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here uh when we had the big rain last
month this area flooded out because it's

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a natural flood
plane which is uh not uncommon for Park

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areas to be established in uh flood
plane areas that would have some natural

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flooding after heavy
rains but the the property that were

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interested in acquiring actually a butts
to the park further up here and the uh

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there's been some work that's been done
uh by assume Volunteers Of The Parks

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Board that have cleared out a lot of the
property uh on the Far West End of the

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property on the the uh south side of the
river and so the uh the the the goal

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would be over the course of time to
develop some sort of non non-motorized

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pathway or some sort of walking trail
along the river I had the chance to walk

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the property yesterday and uh there's a
lot of woods once you get back past the

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uh the buildings
and so um there's uh you know some

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natural forestry there and shrubs and uh
could be a very Scenic walkway along the

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river uh once it's
developed the fact that there is some

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River Frontage uh was in Lancing today
for the capcon conference and was able

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to talk with representatives from DNR as
well as Eagle the DNR folks said that we

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would gain extra points because we do
have a river uh and that the goal would

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be a walking trail and the fact that it
currently AB buts a community park would

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get us extra points as well for the
application um uh one of the concerns

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that was raised when I talked with the
representatives from Eagle uh was that

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uh they said there might be some
permitting that might be required uh

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because of the proximity of the proposed
walking trail to the river I'm assuming

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that's because of a soil disruption uh
and uh they they indicated one of our

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council members might have some
knowledge about

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that but uh uh one of the other uh
suggestions that came forward from our

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discussion last month was that we would
want to do a phase one uh environmental

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site plan of the property uh in Walking
the property uh uh an individual who had

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some knowledge of the history of the
property uh did point out to me some

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areas where there was uh the appearance
of some dump of soil some scrap metals

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there was actually a converter that was
laying out in the open uh behind the

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buildings in the tree line area uh I'd
say it's about a 10 by 20 foot area that

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might be suspect that uh would have to
be checked out but one of the pluses I

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learned from the friends from Eagle was
that uh you can apply and they will uh

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perform an environmental uh phase one or
a phase two environmental site plan uh

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at at no cost so that's a plus as well

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too the uh as I mentioned last month the
assessor has this property valued uh

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true cash value at $887,500
uh we would plan to apply for a grant at

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a maximum Award of 100,000 it's a
75% uh reimbursement from uh the state

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and we would only be liable for 25% of
the of the cost of acquiring the

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property and uh there's been a high
percentage of uh applications that have

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been approved by uh the DNR for land

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position our last picture Kim I believe
it might

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be there might be a yeah that's a

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just uh an area that's showing the uh
Creekside Hearth trying to give you a

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better view of where the park property
is going Eastward

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here it's the the river

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here so I just wanted to provide that as
some background information for Council

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as well as for the public of if there's
any questions or comments that we would

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receive and I'm at your disposal Mr
President to try to help answer any

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questions that do come up anybody have
points to raise with regard to the

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presentation just for the benefit of uh
public this issue uh as far as National

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resource trust funds is going to be
addressed as regular agenda item number

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seven
uh resolution 22-03

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h-02 so we will be discussing it this
evening okay uh any comments from the

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from the

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public looks like
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okay all right um let's call the regular
meeting into order please rise for the

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Pledge of
Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the

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flag of the United States of America to
the Republic for which it stands one

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under God indivisible

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andice additions deletions changes to
the proposed agenda for this evening are

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there
any

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not roll call President Schneider
president president proon Dyke council

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member Alec present council member CA
present council member man council

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member Glasser council member stuffler

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pres Communications um so first it's uh
with have communication from our good

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friends at uh Great Lakes water
authority uh water

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charges always happy to hear from them
um so I I looked at the breakdown and uh

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it's a little bit complex uh Miss
Keesler can you

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give us a little bit of detail I saw
3.4% increase 3.7% increase not sure

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what it all means I figure you're the
numbers person so maybe you um

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essentially it's the
3.4%

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increase across the board across across
the board um for our for our

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municipality right yeah right okay y
so is there um is it even possible to

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um put an
approximate uh what what it will cost

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the
average if homeowner water

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user that I do not know um off the top
of my head um for

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um if we use the same water usage in the
last 12 months um it would be at an

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approximate 2.7% increase in our cost
alone

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and I think as the uh communication from
glwa indicates um it's effective what

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July something and Billings that would
go out August one yep so it won't hit

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till then but there will be hit
correct um and also I just want you to

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um make note if I can find
where okay on page seven of your packet

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if you look on line number 16 and
17 um we do get charged part of um the

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Flint um Debt Service for Kwa that was
the agreement they had with Flint um

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when all of that took place um but
number 17 in particular it's um we're

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being charged for the Highland Park bad
debt adjustments and every single

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meeting that we attend it always gets
brought up that just because they don't

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pay their bill why do all the other
municipalities have to pay for

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it on a regular agenda items as well yep
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number number four agenda it I I look at
that that whole topic it's rather

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incredible but you know we don't mind
carrying H Park and BS

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right uh okay um also in communication
Elmont Lions Club annual Easter candy

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hunt Saturday April 16 2022 11 a.m.
sharp at the Elmont community park there

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will be candy hot dogs and picture
taking with the Easter

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Bunny who wants to dress up anybody no
pets allowed okay so that

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communication uh then we have let's
uh um invitation from the Emily Masonic

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Lodge
295 Master's wardens and members of

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honoring the Lodge's 150 birthday
Saturday May 11 2022 at 11:00 a.m. at

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the Elmont M Masonic Center
building uh on 7300 Dryden Road in

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Elmont irsvp April 9 so that that's
happening um other council members may

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or may not have seen this
but I saw I mention and I think it's

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fairly important so uh we had a
communication from row as we have

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frequent Communications from them but I
thought this was particularly

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important um row is indicating to
us note with costs increasing for nearly

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everything
it is important for local units of

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government to ensure that fees assessed
for

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permits address the cost for processing
them you hear that Jim uh if your

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community has not reviewed its fees
structure recently it is likely due for

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a significant update during this session
and they having

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a um seminar essentially Workshop um row
staff will provide examples of fees

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structures and discuss an approach to
performing an update and uh I don't know

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whether our manager or clerk treasur
intending uh intend to

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participate it's they call a Spring
Community Education series since April

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19th of 2022 from 7 to
9: um at least we should be paying

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attention to that than
raise fees but uh everything is all

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volatile and speaking of volatility
um have we taken any note so far um note

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hasn't been very long since

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um The Invasion happened in Europe um as
far as

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gasoline uh costs because we have a
police department and DPW etc etc and so

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have you noticed a significant uptake in
cost we haven't gotten this month's bill

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yet so I'm sure it's going to be quite
significant yeah U and I mean it's

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something I would imagine we're going to
have to pay attention to um it at this

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point in time it looks like
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um I can't call it an event situation is
going to go on for an extensive period

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of time but of course it's so volatile
that uh we just have no clue what's

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going to happen so the oil prices went
bananas and went went up to just a few

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days ago $140 a barrel which maybe the
highest ever and this morning it was

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down to $99 a Barr so but you know we
just don't know so I it's probably

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something we're going to have to pay
attention to I would thinking how it's

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going to affect our presid budget and
upcoming

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budget and of course we don't have any
big expense items coming up do we

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for oh well so s i' raise that uh any
members of council uh want to

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participate in that education series uh
got the information on it probably in

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your email and I've got it as well uh so
uh moving on to um Regular meeting

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minutes for the March one
meeting uh let's

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see in Communications where are we

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here uh the liquor license transfer
paragraph um it was the consens second

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line um sentence in the beginning in the
middle it was the consensus of

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council probably to put the words uh at
that yeah that it did not please thank

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you okay uh regular agenda item number

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three third line

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down oh yes okay so U beginning of line
uh line three um summer summer intern

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program be utilized to document it says
to infiltration probably should strike

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the word to doesn't make sense there
please thank you and then comment time

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um and Mr dyes
language what is second line

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down um so there's a sentence uh this is
um president pro dkes uh com commented

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in their uh Council comment time
beginning in the middle of line uh two

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he's
suggested um it says created I presume

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that word should be creating a
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okay okay so we typos anybody else with
uh regard to the minutes

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Corrections objections questions
anything just

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okay general

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fund major
streets local

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streets perkon Recreation
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fund Downtown Development Authority fund

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water tower

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debt Sur
fund water

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fund equipment
fund gets know by heard after a while uh

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payroll register

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report Water
Report tpw monthly report for February

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wastewater treatment uh monthly report
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February police
report our ordinance enforcement officer

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report building permit report AKA
construction code

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Authority and financial position rep

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report if there are no comments issues
to discuss entertain a

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motion support motion made by President
proam Dykes suppor by council member

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stepler to approve the consent agenda
any further discussion or discussion at

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all all those in favor say I I
objections uh unanimously approved now

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is the time audience for public comment
time for any issue that is on our

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regular agenda for this evening is there
any public comment this

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evening

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sir hello my name is Steven Powell and
I'm here to make a public comment

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regarding the topic of the water main
relocation in the Kalin

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subdivision I'm the new property owner
of lot 133 in the Kalin subdivision my

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wife Samantha poell and I closed on a
construction loan to build our first

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house here in Elmont a month ago on
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2022 we purchased lot 133 from Mr Jim
Novak of Novak construction who is the

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Builder for our house after seeing no
construction progress on our lot for a

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few weeks I called The Village manager
Mr David Trent Mr Trent was very helpful

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when explaining the situation how a
water main was mistakenly installed on

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lot 133 years ago when it should have
been installed on the adjacent parcel

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along with a future
Road I understand that mistakes happen

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and the Village Council is already
diligently working to remedy this issue

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I strongly encourage the Village Council
to take the necessary steps to resolve

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this as quickly as possible to avoid any
further delays to the construction of

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our home thank you very much for your
time and consideration on this matter my

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family and I are excited and looking
forward to moving into the Elmont

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community

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thank you for your presentation yeah we
um have previously been informed of the

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position that you've been put in which
obviously is not a favorable one but uh

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yeah is most unfortunate un uh stuff
happens unfortunately but yeah we will

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be addressing it this evening okay thank
you thank you for your presentation and

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yeah any further comments feel free to
come

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back any other public comment this
evening with regard to I items on our

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regular
agenda be nothing further regular agenda

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item number one Kingsbrook penalties
waiver

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request okay

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thank

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you thanks for having me
back uh I think last time I was here was

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back in
November uh and I presented to you the

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situation we were in with the water
bills uh and I presented a plan to to

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get them paid up and then get ahead um
I'm happy to say that we we've made all

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of our payments to date do you mind
terribly just giving us your name again

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oh sorry Randy mer controller for
residents first which oversees the

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communities uh Kingsbrook Estates um so
I'm happy to say that uh over the last

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four months we've made all the payments
uh and the first four payments that we

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made uh you could see them up here the
24,000 24,000

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25,000 and
22,000 uh those are the four big

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payments the large larger payments that
were supposed to help us get not only

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caught up but also get us ahead going
forward uh now at this point we plan on

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doing the $15,000 a month going forward
and that should be about a third of the

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quarterly water bill that we get uh that
would continue to keep us ahead so that

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when we finally get the water bill
quarter that we're we already have

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two-thirds of it paid and then the
payment uh for for that month is really

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just a scw up give or take you know
15,000 so give or take if that we'll be

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behind 1800 what's going to be different
though this has been an ongoing problem

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for years I understand it hasn't been
your personal problem you've just

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started working for it yeah but there is
nobody in this Village that I can say

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I've found or heard of that has ever
gotten a

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$116,000 break on their water bill
ever we're not looking for the break on

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the water bill we're looking for a break
on the penalty

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you Ur the penalties your company
occurred the penalties yeah I tell you

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the only way I would vote to wipe that
out is if you donated that

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$16,988 to The Village at Almont for Mrs
Keesler to go through and help the

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elderly or the unfortunate in this town
to pay their water bill since the last

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10 years or approximately those people
in this town have footed the bill for

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the trailer park
I mean if I may with all respect in the

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last meeting uh you had specifically
said if you know if you believed we

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would be making our payments on time
you'd be willing to forego the late fees

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on will to listen to it yes yeah yeah
but I'm listening I've LED this charge

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all the way through since I became a
council

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member you know I
just even with the 15,000 payment we're

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going to roll
in to the end of April when water bills

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are due and your still going to owe a
little bit of money which is going to

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start occurring penalties
again why do you feel that

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way we would we haven't given up the
16,000 yet okay assuming the 16,000 is

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is waved then we we're actually ahead by
the time the bill comes in we'll be

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ahead by 28,000 and we're only going to
owe the difference on it so at no point

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will we be late in fact we'll like I
said we'll have paid ahead 28,000

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on that
bill flip side of the

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coin um and all the points made by
council member aler

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valid is that there has been a dramatic
change with regard to the owners of the

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mobile home home park taking
responsibility because as you indicate

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for decades they didn't a and built up
huge um outstanding uh

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aages um build an excess of 100,000
which is you know totally

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unacceptable
and I suppose in part

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motivation uh we express the willingness
to consider waving on the penalties uh

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ha has um
pushed the uh Park to put in a uh

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responsible plan where they
will um looks pretty much uh stay

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current and so yeah the question becomes
I mean there's there certainly is no

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question is bad behavior I think in most
of our minds especially those that been

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on Council a long time on the uh as far
as the owner of the park uh

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responsibility but looks like they uh
well they have you have a new operations

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manager um um
above you and then you're you're new to

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this um they're actually taking this
seriously and so do we want to um give

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them a reward for finally stepping up to
plate and doing what they should have

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been doing all
along other council

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members I just have a question for Kim
um wondering if you can just confirm the

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figures that were presented um on the
penalty amounts yep that um what that

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16986 is if you look on your packet on
page

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44 it is from
21121 all the way to

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21422 that's where that
16986 comes from

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and it is correct that the two the
November and February invoices contain

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additional late fees because the prior
penalties had not been brought current

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the way the system pays it pays the old
water sewer water debt charges

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first um then goes and pays the
penalties so like you said you never get

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current on the current bill when you're
making a payment so that's why the

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interest keeps adding
on um not touching the subject of the

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$1,511 penalties um just dealing with
the pen the penalties that were accured

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in November and February um I agree on
at least those that they were making the

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payments in accordance with the
presented program and so

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um if we can talk about maybe waving
those first before we tackle the

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11,511 um that's at least um my opinion
on those two

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charges 54 74 92 total for those two
I'll take your word for

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that well I potential way to deal with
it and and this this is a tough one

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because C of Prior bad conduct and
looked like the beginnings of quote Good

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Conduct
um if we follow

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Mindy's um
suggestion

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proposal
is

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perhaps um
waving the November invoice and the

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February
invoice and

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and seeing how King kingsbook does the
next one two or three

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payments um and giving an opportunity to
come back again with regard to 11,000 I

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realize
it's problematic because it does

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continue to grow all by itself right if
we leave it sitting there the

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11,000 well right now their balance is
only

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39910 so if you gave them the credit of
54

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7492 they would actually have a credit
balance so when they do the April

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payment you know it they'll actually
have a credit on their

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account deal

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thiss wa the February to November
because that was a roll up and they were

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showing good faith um to our Point the
Villages incurred expenses dealing with

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those cred for years so it shouldn't be
scot-free I would say knock 50% off of

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the
11,000 charge them 50% of the 11,000 and

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call it a open day that way the village
gets covered for a lot of the expenses

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we've dealt with from a staff point of
view and you can respect that because

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you can see the hours that Mr Trent and
Miss keer put into this thing alone plus

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all the back year crap that we've been
dealing with you guys that way you're

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getting a break
we're we're getting a break we're

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showing good faith to you because you've
showing good faith to us and then you're

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not going back here in three months and
US discussing this again unless you guys

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start doing what to do p not that I mind
coming here and talking to you guys

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but
members um Tim's proposal makes a lot of

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sense to me it takes it it's a balancing
act and um

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uh benefits both the village and the
park so what do you think

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Wayne yeah well Tim goes a little bit
farther than Mindy and um and and I

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actually going into
this I had the same Balancing Act prop

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of giving giving him some sort of a
break but not the full thing I thoughts

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along those lines and want to see what
what's the council thought Jackie any so

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Tim you are saying split the
11,511 I'm saying

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nov
right

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after 50% of whatever the 11
5755

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okay yeah I think it's reasonable it
it's both sides Jim I your point respect

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it
um they have shown good faith

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and this way we're helping them they're
helping us and we

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move the obvious inherent message of
don't fall behind again if it goes back

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to the way it was there will never be
any lency

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again well absolutely yeah uh what would
be the timing on the payment what would

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be the expected timing on the TR on that
the stay current by the end of the next

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billing cycle like everybody else
does so the May invoice uh the April

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invoice that comes in I think it's due
May 10th or something like that so on

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that invoice pay making sure that's of
course paid in full but covering the

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that's fair we can cover that the 50
5755 plus what you owe and then that

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should take everything down to what a
zero balance a zero balance

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so was that a motion

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Tim okay I'll make the motion that um we
wave the penalty fees um what was

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theal
5,474

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92 okay I make a motion we
wave the November and February invoice

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amount of $

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54742 um since Kingsburg was showing
good faith within their payment schedule

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during that time period Al um and also
that we reduce the um

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additional um late fees that were due of
11,5 $511 by

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50% and and that PID the difference of
that PL Fe on the

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next I support
that made by President protm Dyk

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supported by council member

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conka any further

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discussion all those in favor say I I
objections I

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motion passes by a six to1
vote apprciate the time

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tonight 5 to

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one okay regular agenda item number two
uh Planning Commission

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reappointment

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so is Tom here this evening Tom's not
here

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I'm so I'm so embarrassed because I've
served with him all these years I think

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always mispronounced his last name tesi
teski so the J of Silent yes ah yeah

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somebody you mispronounced his name uh
uh he's he's terrific he he's been the

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chairman for a very long time and um the
uh Planning Commission did n did

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nominate him and um
I'm going to reappoint

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him uh to a where I last

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pages for um a term ending March 31
2025 and request council's

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ratification I'll before
wey

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rication two terms on on Planning
Commission and Bernie eal to this the

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time is very dedicated very
knowledgeable and it runs one of the

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best meetings around he's he very
thorough and his work on Planning

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Commission yeah and with that said I'll
make the motion I'll make the motion

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that we
ratify president's appointment of time J

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to to the commission
for March 31st 202 I'll support you

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motion made by President Pro D supported
by council member Alec uh to ratify um

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the um my appointment of U Mr T jeski to
uh the Planning Commission he serves as

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chairperson and yeah he does a terrific
job um any further discussion all those

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in favor say I I I
post ratification is unanimously

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approved regular agenda item number
three second reading and adoption of

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ordinance 193.684710

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we uh made some changes to the odor
standards added a revocation process for

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a special land use and um updated the
design standards um to add that primary

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caregiver

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requirement so um council is become well
before it was in front of the Planning

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Commission for a number of meetings um
and meeting with our village planner

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um and it's come before Council two
meetings ago um where there was a

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consensus to let it go forward and now
we actually have to vote on it this is

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second reading and if it's if we adopt
it it

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becomes our official ordinance regarding
medical marijuana zoning

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ordinance so um is there discussion con
concerns that Council

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wishes to raise at this point in

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time uh if not we what we know it was
very care carefully covered at Planning

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Commission and I think at our meeting uh
two meetings ago so um do I have a

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motion as to ordinance 193.684710

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six

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presented motion made by President protm
Dyk supported by council member Glasser

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uh to approve ordinance 193.684710

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if you read this thing is rather
incredible um

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so I this this is about as sad a tale as
you could possibly have um and so it's

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been around since
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2012 before then um well Highland
Park just wasn't paying its bill um

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and I don't have a lot of
information

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about it uh other than I think I'm aware
that Highland Park

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is has is a community with very little
in the way of Revenue

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so there was a um treatment plant for
that City's Water Treatment Plant um

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because it was creating a public health
risk to its

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residents
and which still has not been reped it's

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never been they've never done
it um and then it's then we're see I

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guess it's payment history it's paid
less than 1% of its water service

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charges since
2012

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and the the S the sad news is that
um they if we think that Kingsburg was

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behind there 11 million
$374,500

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um if no payment is made and by the end
of the fiscal year 2023 it'll be 12, 631

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th000 um and so it means that other
communities are picking up um for

441
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Highland Park's
non-payment and so what's being asked by

442
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:15,559
glwa which I'm sure
is probably even more unhappy with the

443
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:25,240
situation in each of the communities
carrying High Park um is a letter that

444
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:34,680
would go to Governor Whitmer essentially
asking the state to pick it up or do

445
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:41,680
something with it and I I have no idea
whether uh the federal money coming

446
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:46,880
coming in um to the state American
Rescue

447
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:52,680
act whether there's
anything there's availability from those

448
00:45:49,599 --> 00:46:01,079
funds to pick this up is obviously an
incredible bill um but so what what is

449
00:45:56,319 --> 00:46:07,920
being asked by glwa is will we authorize
um our village manager to essentially

450
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:12,760
sign the proposed letter and send it on
to the governor who I'm sure will

451
00:46:10,359 --> 00:46:12,760
respond

452
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:27,640
immediately so it it it's um it's a
gesture will there be a check coming

453
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:32,319
from the state right who knows
but OB obviously it's

454
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:37,400
a a terrible
problem

455
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:44,920
so what's council's pleasure do we want
Mr Trent to send on I mean do you have a

456
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:50,800
input on on this David uh over and above
the sending of the letter which I think

457
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:56,400
is a noble gesture for us to do uh as uh
I will be in attendance again tomorrow

458
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:58,760
at the uh last day of the MML capcon
conference

459
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:04,400
uh tomorrow morning we have the
privilege of having breakfast with many

460
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:10,800
legislators that will be uh joining us
and uh and as many legislators that

461
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:16,720
represent our region where glwa is
supplying water and with the multitude

462
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:20,880
of billions that the state now has at
its disposal that it still hasn't

463
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:27,079
figured out how to appropriate for
infrastructure projects Etc that uh I I

464
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:31,680
can't I can't Envision why they wouldn't
be able to come up with $1 million to

465
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:35,400
help pay off the Highland Park debt
because they certainly have made the

466
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:41,280
special effort to take care of lead and
service line Replacements not only in

467
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:45,440
Flint but also Bon Harbor so let's have
the state Step Up take care of this

468
00:47:43,319 --> 00:47:51,200
issue with uh our friends in Highland
Park and uh reduce that uh that debt so

469
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:57,400
that all the other communities that are
part of glwa don't have to have that

470
00:47:53,640 --> 00:48:02,800
encumbrance going further
I me you be approaching Senator Dy and

471
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:07,160
representative how for starters right
starters and any any other legislators

472
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:14,720
that I'm familiar with that are in
attendance tomorrow jness County

473
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:18,000
Etc y okay would we actually need a
motion for this Kim do you

474
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:26,559
think
consensus

475
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,760
so yeah I don't have an issue with it
yeah

476
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:41,400
so get out your
[Laughter]

477
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:49,440
pen yeah okay well thanks for presenting
that always headaches uh going uh on to

478
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:58,359
let me just down here regular agenda
item number five kin water main

479
00:48:53,799 --> 00:49:03,480
relocation um and so can you make a
presentation to us manager Trent with

480
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:08,760
regard to
kayin yes following up on what we

481
00:49:06,359 --> 00:49:17,280
provided you uh at our last meeting
where we uh shared with you the status

482
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:22,760
of the U water M being discovered in the
improper location as an extension of the

483
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:28,720
Drake Shire subd development back in
20057 Era that uh our friends at roal

484
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:34,119
Prof Professional Services came out last
week and uh surveyed the Lots as well as

485
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:40,400
the
proposed future right of way location

486
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:48,079
and one of the things that we discovered
going through that process is that one

487
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:53,160
of the pins on the back end of lot 133
was in the wrong location and so when

488
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:58,440
our crew went out there a couple weeks
ago to look at the stakes and where the

489
00:49:55,359 --> 00:50:02,000
water M was
constructed and also a little bit of

490
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:07,680
confusion about what some of those
Stakes meant for him as far as the house

491
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:12,839
being staked out 10- foot setbacks from
from the house and so on and so forth

492
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:16,280
that uh the appearance was that the
water man was actually going under the

493
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:24,640
proposed
garage once that back pin was relocated

494
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:29,079
and uh roow confirmed that the the
property lines were where they were

495
00:50:25,799 --> 00:50:35,000
supposed to be in re-evaluating the the
location of the water m to the house uh

496
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:40,119
we discovered that uh it's not going
under the garage but it's so close to

497
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:44,880
the house and garage that the water main
still needs to be re relocated uh you

498
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:50,119
know if something disastrous ever
happened to that pipe it would you know

499
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:55,440
flood out the the basement of that home
uh and there's just no room to do any

500
00:50:52,119 --> 00:51:02,200
work you know as close as that water m
is to uh the proposed house so uh I

501
00:50:59,799 --> 00:51:08,000
provided to you a sketch a preliminary
sketch that row has put together uh

502
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:13,760
disregard the typo that says where the
existing 8 inch water man is located

503
00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:20,160
that's an existing 12 inch water
M but they they have the location of its

504
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:30,079
current status in the right location and
so um we uh basically are um looking for

505
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:37,200
a a final sketch from row so that
whoever we decide to contract with for

506
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:45,000
relocating the the water main uh knows
exactly where the property line for the

507
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:50,599
RightWay is and uh establish a 15 foot
easement in that right away and the

508
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:56,079
water M would be located as close to the
center of that easement as possible uh

509
00:51:53,720 --> 00:52:02,200
so that there's plenty of space for uh
Mr pre going forward uh to U you know

510
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:07,280
develop that future right away for his
property that's to the east uh you know

511
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:14,520
at whatever point he decides to move
forward with that project uh regular

512
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:20,720
Road width is about 24 feet 12 feet for
each Direction so there's still plenty

513
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:27,160
of room in the right of way uh you know
to not impact the the easement where the

514
00:52:23,799 --> 00:52:33,319
water main would be located
assuming that Council were to

515
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:38,280
approve um the proposed
resolution I we had some discussion at

516
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:41,680
the last meeting I think as far as where
the funds would come from we have bottom

517
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:47,880
line here
42,500 and those funds would come

518
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:54,359
from my suggestion at this point would
be that we use some of our arpa Monies

519
00:52:50,920 --> 00:53:01,280
to cover that cost and have it be
designated into the waters fund to help

520
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:05,960
cover this cost and then uh going
forward if we're able to uh get any

521
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:10,119
confirmation from tital work that's
still being investigated to see was

522
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:15,720
there ever an easement
recorded uh on that uh property when it

523
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:21,240
was just vacant land so that's still a
work in progress we don't have an update

524
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:25,599
on that yet uh I have been in touch with
our insurance company to just let them

525
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:31,000
know that this is where we're at to see
if it's possible for us to file a claim

526
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:36,880
based on what we know today where we did
find uh documentation on the final site

527
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:43,880
plan that was approved by H former
Village manager Jerry Oaks that there

528
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:48,200
was a uh a designation for a future
RightWay that showed where the water

529
00:53:45,799 --> 00:53:54,480
main was supposed to be
located but whether or not an easement

530
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:57,520
was ever created and recorded is still
up in the air and that's something that

531
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:04,480
we're hoping to find out through our
title title search as well now in this

532
00:54:01,319 --> 00:54:10,400
regard Mr Novak Who currently owns that
future right away has graciously agreed

533
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:15,839
to help resolve this issue and uh will
give us an easement for putting the

534
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:24,520
water main in that right of way because
he's the owner of that property and uh

535
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:31,240
and row will uh create the the document
for us to review and

536
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:35,160
uh get it recorded at the county clerk's
office Jimmy have you seen this

537
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:59,440
preliminary just received this sketch uh
early Monday afternoon

538
00:54:57,319 --> 00:55:04,200
Mr Snider as of right now construction
has started on lot 133 the sewer and

539
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:08,160
water was tapped in and I believe the
basement was dug there should be no

540
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:12,640
reason moving forward that we would be
holding up anything other than at the

541
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:19,359
point when we actually moved the water
man or relocate it it' be a lot easier

542
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:23,359
to move a 12in water man before there
was a whole structure there too late

543
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:27,920
it's already done the the hole is
already dug so

544
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:31,640
sure you can swing over a basement

545
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:46,480
wall want me to speak now but you know I
thought that this water M was where is

546
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:52,240
proposed now that's why I always thought
it was in that you know that RightWay

547
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:57,319
Loot and you know even though there all
the research that we've done there's do

548
00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:03,359
T of work that shows that there's sure
and we've you know I've had my title

549
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:08,280
company look twice yeah I I don't my
opinion is I don't think we hold up

550
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:13,480
their project I think we make the
commitment to spend a $42,500 and get

551
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:18,359
this project done so it doesn't
interfere with Mr Novak's business the

552
00:56:15,799 --> 00:56:24,880
homeowner can get into town it's an
error that's happened 20 years ago

553
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:32,440
that you know there's many new faces
since then and not their fault it's not

554
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:32,440
our fault it's our problem to fix it not

555
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:49,839
his already received
146,000 plus or minus and then we'll get

556
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,839
another 146,000 next

557
00:56:54,079 --> 00:57:02,640
year infrastructure work
that was let's make sure when easement

558
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:07,160
comes in that it's going to be brought
to council

559
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:11,119
okay yeah that's one of the the the
things that we've learned going through

560
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:15,799
this process that that's a good uh
catchall to make sure that we have

561
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:20,039
Council approve all easements just so
that we have a record of it in in a

562
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:25,559
council meeting so that it's easy for us
to look up uh you know a lot of

563
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:29,920
municipalities do do that uh but you
know that's going to be our procedure

564
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,119
going forward I mean and Brian Brian's
been great with it I mean I've looked at

565
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:36,760
some of the maps with I mean you fight
that issue every day with little lines

566
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:41,359
the water m is not Ian it was never
documented in the past and I mean I'm

567
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:45,440
just and you keep updating as these
problems pop he updates and updates and

568
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:49,400
updates I mean and unfortunately we
didn't know that it it was going to be

569
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:53,559
in the way until the lot was stake sure
when we got the Miss Dig that's when

570
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:59,280
we're like that's not right right but
it's not where it's supposed to be and

571
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:06,000
at least we can't find anything it needs
to be moved or not moved but

572
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:11,520
relocated
ceased I

573
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:16,680
believe that um Jerry W Jerry Oaks was
not the manager at the time this

574
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:20,359
happened uh Sally McCrae was acting
manager and I thought it was her that

575
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:25,440
signed the site
plan actually uh well both of them had

576
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:30,079
their fingers in the pie you know she
signed off

577
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:36,240
as clerk at that time uh but Jerry
signed off on the actual site plan uh M

578
00:58:33,799 --> 00:58:43,760
McCrae signed off on the Miler Prince
that we have in our possession before he

579
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:47,920
became ill the the the in order to um
record an easement prepare an easement

580
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:53,680
and record it you have to have your
Meats in bounds in other words

581
00:58:50,839 --> 00:58:59,680
surveyed is the meets in bounds for the
easement is that already set forth in

582
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:04,119
site plan so you can off of the site
plan you can actually prepare a a

583
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:09,760
document to be recorded with the
register of deeds you have to have a

584
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:15,599
legal description exactly yeah and uh is
that in the safe plan uh no so that has

585
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:22,359
to be done also all the site plan shows
is that there's a future RightWay that's

586
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:28,440
directly across from dawn drive and
that's where it's sketched in where the

587
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:34,319
water should have been located obviously
we're approximately 20t off from where

588
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:38,760
it should have been so we have to retain
Services of

589
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:43,160
duffler it's the best survey around to
for him to do I mean he has to do a

590
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:47,680
survey right we have to have
that contract they they they have their

591
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:52,559
own surveying crew so they they've come
and done that they're GNA put together

592
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:59,240
that legal description for the easement
we'll review that with Mr Novak and uh

593
00:59:56,039 --> 01:00:03,640
incur on the accuracy of it and then uh
make arrangements to get it recorded uh

594
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:10,119
we're learning that uh whoever the
grantee is is ultimately responsible for

595
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:14,000
taking it to the county courthouse and
getting it recorded with the register a

596
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:24,839
Deeds well we would be the Mr Noak the
grant tour we're the grantee so we're

597
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:28,920
responsible for getting it recorded
that's easy enough to do times the

598
01:00:26,359 --> 01:00:31,960
Builder or the gror might do it you know
but in this case we're going to make

599
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:37,119
sure my office is usually at the
courthouse right across the street from

600
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:42,760
registered Deeds at least once a week so
we'd be happy to record

601
01:00:39,319 --> 01:00:47,920
it save somebody a
trip

602
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:53,160
okay all right well um any further
discussion from Council is a big

603
01:00:49,880 --> 01:01:00,000
decision to make um I think the
discussion that's been had so far

604
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:04,599
um Mak sense and it's substantive
and yeah mistake happened a long time

605
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:14,280
ago I'm guessing that Jerry was probably
ill at the time but must have still been

606
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:14,280
on

607
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:30,520
board your counil I paid a lot of money
to engineering Fe need to make sure this

608
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:37,520
happen and that's ultimately who was at
fault for this problem now yeah sounds

609
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:40,839
like yeah thank you for that explanation
but they don't make it whenever they

610
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:48,920
make mistake doesn't cost them make it
cost everybody else yeah you

611
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:53,279
noticed I think there's you know other
fingers in the pie you know as Mr Novak

612
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:58,279
indicated you know we had row
Professional Services out there during

613
01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:03,480
the Drake sh project so something
obviously went a miss that there wasn't

614
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:08,279
you know an oversight of where this
water man you know critical piece of

615
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,359
infrastructure got located but by the
same token uh whoever the contractor was

616
01:02:11,279 --> 01:02:18,160
that actually installed it you know
should have had a print that specified

617
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:21,640
where it supposed to go and now you know
there's something on the final site plan

618
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:28,039
print that shows it's supposed to be in
the right away and so something happened

619
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:31,640
there with lots of vac land where they
just cut

620
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:38,880
across
uh yeah and so instead of going directly

621
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:42,359
across from dawn Drive they took a stub
that was 20 feet to the south of dawn

622
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:50,960
drive and just went right across the
street and at a slight angle across what

623
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:57,839
is now lot 133 we end up with this uh
conflict the stoop brothers were the

624
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:57,839
developers at that time that is true

625
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:10,760
if we're going to do a motion on this
how should the motion be structured and

626
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:15,480
what would the wording be and I
apologize that I forgot to add that

627
01:03:13,279 --> 01:03:21,480
tidbit of information yeah uh we
acquired several quotes uh one of which

628
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:28,599
was uh significantly less than everybody
else we had three quotes that were in

629
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:32,480
the $20,000 range uh we uh two of those
uh well actually three of the vendors

630
01:03:30,279 --> 01:03:37,880
everybody that quoted in the 20s came
out and saw firsthand what we were up

631
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:41,599
against and what was involved uh We've
identified a company from Auburn Hills

632
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Superior
Excavating uh that were recommending as

633
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:51,400
of the information we had when the
council packet was put together last

634
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:56,000
Thursday to do the work uh they have a
substantial resume which is included in

635
01:03:53,520 --> 01:04:00,200
your packet too that shows uh many
municipalities that they've done work

636
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:05,520
for over the years uh it's a company
that's about 50 years old now uh started

637
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:09,400
by the current owner's father so he
followed in his dad's footsteps and has

638
01:04:07,279 --> 01:04:15,880
been running the firm for the last 15
years since his dad passed away they

639
01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:21,440
have several uh Crews so they're able to
address this project as early as next

640
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,880
week so that it would be completed by
the end of next week we have the

641
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:28,880
material on reserve so the material can
be ordered uh pending your folks

642
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:36,240
approval of the project
tonight uh just to advise you uh Mr

643
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:42,240
Novak uh gave me a verbal quote last
Thursday uh he has not had a chance to

644
01:04:39,319 --> 01:04:46,599
put anything in writing uh in our
conversation last week when he said he

645
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:50,680
was able to do the work uh it did not
include pressure testing which is one of

646
01:04:48,279 --> 01:04:56,279
our requirements he has indicated that
he'd be willing to do the pressure

647
01:04:53,079 --> 01:05:01,119
testing uh and uh you know he would do
do it for an overall price of

648
01:04:58,279 --> 01:05:06,680
$10,000 now while that sounds very
generous uh one of my concerns and not

649
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:10,680
anything against Mr Novak or the quality
of his work we we know Mr Novak's been

650
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:15,640
an integral part of our community for
many years with all the developments

651
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:19,799
that have taken place but I I'm I'm
concerned that in light of what's

652
01:05:17,799 --> 01:05:26,039
transpired and that he's the owner of
lot 133 and doing the work for Mr Powell

653
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:29,760
and his family that we might better
served by having a let's say third party

654
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:35,039
actually perform the work even though
it's going to cost us more but I just

655
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:41,760
think that it it takes that hus off of
Mr Novak to to do that work and that we

656
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:46,359
have H outside parties actually
performing so I think just the opposite

657
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:50,440
on that no no offense to you Jim I hope
you you'll take it the wrong way

658
01:05:54,359 --> 01:06:03,599
but uh I think just the opposite on that
Mr Novak knows the layout of the land he

659
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:07,640
knows the line he he he's already doing
the excavation and stuff around there he

660
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,599
doesn't have to move his Bill's
considerably cheaper because he doesn't

661
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:16,079
have to move his equipment from the city
to hear well hang on Jim because I got a

662
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:20,440
quote from somebody else and it wasn't
put in the packet because it wasn't put

663
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:25,799
in there on time so we got to be fair
here okay I got a $23,000 quote who I

664
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:30,119
would actually hire those people over
all these people and it didn't get put

665
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:38,839
in the packet I'm the guy that has to
deal with the people I'm not

666
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:42,559
that there's a health risk at at Cost
here when you're taking a water man out

667
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:48,039
of service reduced pressure is going to
be over in uh Drake Shire and kayin and

668
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:52,799
that's the exact same water man that was
out of service for over a month last

669
01:06:49,799 --> 01:06:58,319
summer so I don't want to repeat of the
water quality issue that I went through

670
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:02,079
last summer so we really I the DPW needs
to hire somebody with some sort of

671
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:08,119
professionalism that will come in and
maybe teach us something so we my

672
01:07:05,799 --> 01:07:12,200
recommendation is for
Superior and that way we can get it over

673
01:07:10,279 --> 01:07:16,079
and done with there's a supply shortage
there's an employee shortage if we keep

674
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:19,359
trying to get more quotes and bring more
stuff to the table it's going to the the

675
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:25,319
ship's going to
sail but my preferred person that I

676
01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:31,520
would hire did not get his quote in by
last last Thursday is that correct

677
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:38,000
correct so we can't go back we need to
make a decision with these three people

678
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,000
here I'm sorry but fair is

679
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:48,039
fair I will charge for that they then
I'm trying to be nice and if we don't

680
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:53,200
want to save money then that's fine I
might as well make some more money so

681
01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:53,200
not a

682
01:07:53,680 --> 01:08:01,599
problem it's a problem this water man
was out of service last year for over a

683
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:10,559
month and we had water quality issues
from Drake Shire and my crew my

684
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:17,319
St that's why it wasn't because you said
certain I'm not bmj you work for

685
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:22,880
bmj I don't work for bmj you bided the
job and you decided to not do what was

686
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:22,880
on that bit I'm not

687
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:32,000
good yeah
uh so my I'm the I'm the water operator

688
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:35,319
for the village everything that happens
they don't come after all of you guys or

689
01:08:33,719 --> 01:08:40,040
the contract they come after me if
something isn't right there this is I

690
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:45,799
think that we have been moving forward
very fast on this and we can we can get

691
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:50,560
it done within the next month but
there's a process to do this with

692
01:08:47,719 --> 01:08:57,319
without harming people's life and safety
it's their

693
01:08:52,960 --> 01:09:01,480
water I me 23 houses are in there for 24
houses that I installed I guess their

694
01:08:59,159 --> 01:09:05,000
water not installed right but took every
pressure test that was done right our

695
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:09,839
water quality problem last year was in
Drake

696
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:13,480
Shire off of the same Main and my
department had to work with Engineers to

697
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:21,440
fix
it and it was not our

698
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:27,319
job so I I I just feel we should hire I
feel we deserve to hire somebody

699
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:33,159
that's getting back to uh the original
homeowner requests as he'd like to move

700
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:40,080
forward we have three quotes in front of
us and we've never accepted as a council

701
01:09:36,719 --> 01:09:44,480
verbal quotes So if we want to move
forward with this we have to make a

702
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:50,440
decision tonight and select a contractor
with the quotes that we have in front of

703
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:55,840
us like I I
understand like I understand what Jim is

704
01:09:52,839 --> 01:10:01,600
saying you know but we we don't have a
quote to consider in front of us and I

705
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:07,400
mean I I would hope Jim that you would
want to achieve the same aim and help

706
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:15,320
the your homeowner
here de to go forward so it's not

707
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:15,320
anybody so we got time

708
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:28,360
so so um what what Mr no appears to be
presenting to us um is is Council

709
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:35,760
willing to pay him $10,000 for the
easement or it just doesn't go

710
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,760
forward it's what it sounds

711
01:10:36,679 --> 01:10:43,440
like you're going to have to hire roow
to oversee that then because my crew is

712
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:47,360
not going to oversee that and we're
saving a ton of money by not bringing

713
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:53,040
the engineers in because we're the ones
with the water license I have four water

714
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:58,239
operators that you know will oversee the
project how much would roow charge us I

715
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,120
don't know they they actually told us
not to you know there's a process here

716
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:06,719
we still have to go through and get a
permit from Eagle you can't just take a

717
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:14,040
waterm apart and move it I mean there's
a process that you know my concern is

718
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,040
the health and safety of my

719
01:11:17,700 --> 01:11:20,830
[Music]

720
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:30,640
residents make without and M we're not
going to negotiate an easement during

721
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:35,719
coun remember you'll see it in the next
item on the agenda there is an employee

722
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:38,719
shortage and a in a supply shortage out
there

723
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,159
so that's

724
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:55,360
true
true weeks and Mr if you can negotiate

725
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:59,639
an EIC with Mr no
go from

726
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:05,639
there how long is our equipment on hold
for or from uh so I I purchased the

727
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:09,719
equipment myself or the the the pipes
because we save 6% right there

728
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:13,199
contractors will Jack the price up but
whenever we do hire a contractor the

729
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:17,400
contractor still has to touch base with
the supplier to make sure that he's

730
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:20,440
getting the parts that he wants I just
went and put them on

731
01:12:20,639 --> 01:12:27,560
hold and I can't I can't buy the parts
until the contractor approves the list

732
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:32,040
because there may be something in there
that he

733
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:35,960
wants so that's why we're paying that's
why that's a separate item normally that

734
01:12:33,639 --> 01:12:41,639
would be together but because of the
situation I decided to try to save will

735
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,639
we save 6% on

736
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:50,000
taxes well the way things stand right
now

737
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:54,760
think Tim's correct we can't move
forward yeah I wish we were moving

738
01:12:52,400 --> 01:13:00,520
forward but what I would anticipate at
our next meeting there'll be three items

739
01:12:57,159 --> 01:13:05,440
for action one would be uh the approval
of the cost of the easement then the

740
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:12,960
purchase of the materials as Brian has
outlined and then the uh decision on

741
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,960
which contractor we would use to do the

742
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:20,360
project
okay sorry Mr

743
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:25,760
Paul okay we're
tbling that issue agenda regular agenda

744
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:28,320
item number six Leaf machine purchase
speaking of

745
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:37,000
money Okay who wants to make a

746
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:47,679
presentation so so we have the um
correspondence from Brian and then we

747
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:53,360
have the uh Memo from
our treasur as far as budgetary

748
01:13:51,040 --> 01:14:00,440
impact and then we
have memorandum

749
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:00,440
and suggested action from our

750
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:10,120
manager so who wants
to take this

751
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:15,239
um can we buy a couple of
these that's what I thought after Kim's

752
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:20,960
financial analysis I I thought let's buy
two and maybe we could buy three and

753
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:27,040
we'll do the whole County right yeah
that's what I was thinking so well

754
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:27,040
somebody take the ball and run with it

755
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:38,719
well uh if if I can just give a brief
summation uh you have the uh Brian's

756
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:43,280
analysis of the cost for repair we did
have a local Machine Shop come out and

757
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:48,040
actually look at the machine as well to
see if there was any possibility of

758
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:54,280
somebody locally being able to do a
miracle and actually make it uh

759
01:14:51,639 --> 01:15:00,880
repairable at a much lower cost and
after review of the uh issues with the

760
01:14:57,480 --> 01:15:04,880
machine and some of the bearings Etc it
would just be cost prohibited to have an

761
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:08,600
engineer go through and you know
basically tear it apart try to do a

762
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:14,719
design what needs to be fixed what needs
to be machined Etc we already have that

763
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:20,520
from uh the folks from Bell uh Bell
equipment and so uh uh our

764
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:24,719
recommendation is going to be that uh
when we come back in April that we're

765
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:30,000
going to have not only the the old leaf
that but some other uh items that we

766
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:35,679
would want to dispose of at the local
County Auction that's held up at the

767
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:40,800
fairgrounds here in the spring and so
that really so basically we're looking

768
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:45,440
to council for direction on do you
desire for us to be able to continue

769
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:51,840
this service for our citizens do we want
to pick up leaves every Autumn during

770
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:55,960
The Fall season if your decision is yes
we want to provide that service our DPW

771
01:15:53,920 --> 01:16:00,600
department is more than able to do that
we just need a new piece of equipment to

772
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:04,639
accomplish that and the best methodology
for us to do that is to acquire the

773
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:11,840
proposed piece of equipment that you
have in front of you tonight uh at A

774
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:17,920
93,000 Plus cost and uh but has outlined
you know one of the benefits is that uh

775
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:24,040
we can do more Leaf PE more leaf pickup
faster more efficiently with the less

776
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:27,840
Manpower and uh and coupled with that
one of the concerns that you folks

777
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:35,199
raised was well uh if we're going to do
leaf pickup where can we dispose of the

778
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:40,760
leaves and uh uh we lagon has agreed uh
to provide access to her field for us to

779
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:48,159
dump the leaves there and then she does
her manicuring of uh all the leaves that

780
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:53,719
are there and does her composting for U
fertilizer for her

781
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:57,199
field so last year the leaf machine the
last three years the leaf machine has

782
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:59,880
been giving us a lot of trouble Jim
actually witnessed three or four

783
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:04,920
different times he was down at the
garage and one time he encouraged us not

784
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:09,199
to even use it but because I have such a
dedicated staff we rolled with it anyway

785
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:14,080
and we were able to make it through the
season but again in November I called

786
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:18,719
for parts for this thing and if I would
have ordered them in November it would

787
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:25,400
have not been here till March so as of
right now even if we order parts which

788
01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:30,560
they paid $166,000 for the machine it's
not worth putting $23,000 into it but

789
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:36,480
tomorrow if I get to order machine it
still won't be here till September that

790
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:42,760
was before the war between Russia and
Ukraine okay so

791
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:47,000
um it's the only place in the state it's
the same place we buy our sweepers from

792
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:53,440
and they have Mobile Mechanics which is
a huge deal for us because we we don't

793
01:17:50,560 --> 01:18:00,080
employ a mechanic or anything like that
I know it's a it it's a it's a expensive

794
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:07,920
purchase but I feel it's what we need to
do if we're going to continue to the

795
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:15,199
service it it seems um that unless we're
making a de decision this

796
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:20,159
evening or in the very very near future
that if we're going to continue to do

797
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:23,880
leaf pickup we have to move on it at
this point so if we're ready to make a

798
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:28,199
decision we're not going to do it we
don't have to buy this piece of

799
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:32,400
equipment if we are going to continue
which we've done for many years and I

800
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:38,360
something we' discussed going back and
forth a little bit on um then seem we

801
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:43,520
need this um equipment and from a
financial standpoint um it would be an

802
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:50,960
installment purchase contract if you
carefully read our uh treasurers uh

803
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:55,480
memorandum um in some respects you save
money

804
01:18:52,120 --> 01:19:00,840
and uh here's let's see first year you
save approximately 9500 in years 2

805
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:06,199
through 11 additional cost be
approximately 1,500 annually um and we

806
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:11,040
do have room to do the installment
contract as far as our

807
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:13,199
financing so that's the decision we have
to

808
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:25,080
make
yeah yeah I mean our our citizens pay a

809
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:29,440
lot of money in property taxes
is to give him something yes it's an

810
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:33,840
expensive item but if you approach it
from this standpoint it's not going to

811
01:19:31,159 --> 01:19:40,360
be too big a financial
hit I also feel like we have a lot of um

812
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:45,520
large mature trees along our streets and
that um without proper equipment to pick

813
01:19:43,639 --> 01:19:49,239
that up I'm sure would you guys would
spend a lot of time just working to

814
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:54,840
clear the streets and the storm drains
and all of that so when I started you

815
01:19:51,840 --> 01:20:00,920
know 17 years ago or whatever I'm long
time ago like kayin and Macintosh they

816
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:05,159
didn't have leaves now they do you know
so I mean it's going to be like that in

817
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:09,400
10 years with Drake Sher and all that
the adding on so we I am thinking about

818
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:16,960
the future instead of right now with
this so um you know it it takes two guys

819
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:21,120
to operate instead of three and you know
it's got a a control center where we're

820
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:25,159
not walking behind the machine that's
twisted ankles you know because we're

821
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:30,040
always falling and tripping on the curb
you know it's it's just a safer more

822
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:35,679
productive machine and I think that that
is what this town needs with the amount

823
01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:41,520
of leaves that we collect so and it does
not affect the truck being ready to plow

824
01:20:39,239 --> 01:20:45,800
snow or any of that so it's a separate
unit that you pull and you can have your

825
01:20:43,719 --> 01:20:50,280
truck ready for snow to where now we
have to take everything apart and you

826
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:56,880
know put it back together if it gets we
get a nice you know day before our

827
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,880
ending date you

828
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:07,639
know it'll be if I order it tomorrow
they they're saying September so barely

829
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:11,560
enough time I mean I'm not going to lie
to you that there's there's there's a

830
01:21:09,719 --> 01:21:15,520
supply shortage I think you know that
with your line of work and there's

831
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:18,120
employees that nobody has employees for
some reason and even though they're

832
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:24,080
saying September like you said with the
war going on it could jump well I was

833
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:24,080
worried about

834
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:32,199
I was I was worried about the trucker
the you know March 1 with the US

835
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:35,760
truckers well then the war started so
now I'm worried about the war you know

836
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:41,679
and that does affect i' still worry
about the truckers with

837
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:46,239
the crazy yeah oh
yeah this this new one also is going to

838
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:50,199
be a lot cleaner as far as the dust
Factor too right yeah I mean you've had

839
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:54,040
issues with the the truck pulling it
that we spent money to repair because of

840
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:59,920
the the the dust and the particles of
the leaves got stuck down in the HX

841
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:05,080
system y y that's correct so with it
being a separate unit that just helps

842
01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:08,760
out better any storage issues with it uh
we don't obviously we don't have a place

843
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:12,480
to store it's going to sit
outside I mean I talked to David we

844
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:17,679
should probably look for someplace to
rent to store it or something or you

845
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:23,480
know I don't know where we're at with a
future Bill most of our stuff is outside

846
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:27,679
I we just don't have any room so that
that is a a

847
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:33,800
a problem that's the worst thing for our
stuff now is it sits outside for 10

848
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:39,040
months out of the year you know 11
months and on short notice and maybe

849
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:43,320
start squeezing some money for working
it into your budget to get some

850
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:52,400
building discussing that for years
unfortunately we did talk about it it's

851
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,400
pretty

852
01:22:52,800 --> 01:23:00,000
scary get better DNR Grant and we have
those buildings and look good maybe we

853
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:05,800
can rent you some
space when the addition going to be like

854
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,800
100 Grand something like that

855
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:14,719
uh if we could do it
[Laughter]

856
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:18,719
forp it's you know the the buildings
were built when everything was smaller

857
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:23,400
you know we've we've knocked out our
doors and made them taller because

858
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:28,120
everything new is Big you know so but
there is no we get all the important

859
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:31,639
stuff inside but usually you know
there's stuff outside we do need to

860
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:35,760
think about doing something even if it's
a cold storage or if we rent some some

861
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:40,560
place you
know yeah like a lean to or something we

862
01:23:38,679 --> 01:23:45,440
should probably look into something we
can maybe put that in the

863
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:51,320
price to take care of
it so do we have a motion on that and we

864
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:58,520
actually if if we're moving ahead on
this we need two motions one would be um

865
01:23:55,199 --> 01:24:03,560
for approval of purchasing the leaf
machine and then secondly the agreement

866
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:06,679
for land use need a motion on that as
well right Kim

867
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:12,120
correct
so do we have a

868
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:24,480
motion
I'll approve from Bell equipment company

869
01:24:20,719 --> 01:24:30,280
to purchase banel Spartan Leaf Pro in
Leaf Pro selfcontained leaf machine at

870
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,280
the cost of

871
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:42,000
93,94 made by council member of cona
supported by uh council member

872
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:48,560
Glasser um and stated on the record to
purchase the leaf machine at

873
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:56,080
93,94 further
discussion all those in favor say I I

874
01:24:53,199 --> 01:25:05,040
objections uh second would be agreement
for land use I I do want to mention um

875
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:09,920
that the agreement was acceptable in
terms of you contract language um except

876
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:14,760
there's a major
typo um on the second to last paragraph

877
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:21,639
adherence to local state and federal
laws second uh line down agreement shall

878
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:26,199
be invalidated by any court and it says
of administrative ruling I'm sure they

879
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:30,360
me to say or administrative ruling
because ruling by Accord is not

880
01:25:27,639 --> 01:25:36,080
administrative but um various agencies
like Eagle whatever they're that's

881
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:41,440
administrative so it's supposed to say
by any court or administrative ruling I

882
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:45,960
I'm willing I'm willing to sign it and
maybe

883
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:50,840
just um uh cross out of put or above
initial it I mean so we could move

884
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:55,920
forward right away but that does need to
be corrected I just wanted to mention

885
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:59,880
that so do we have a a motion on the
agreement for land use with make the

886
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:04,800
motion to approve the land use agreement
with Lagan Farms LLC for the leaf

887
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:10,199
disposal as outlined in the contract
with the changes that Mr Snyder had just

888
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:14,159
mentioned I'll support that motion made
by council member Alex Bo by council

889
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:20,280
member conka uh to approve the agreement
for land use as indicated with the

890
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:25,080
change that I uh suggested any further
discussion all those in favor say I I

891
01:26:23,480 --> 01:26:30,199
opposed
agreement for land use is approved I'll

892
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:37,639
write in the change and it should be
fine and if uh wh has any problem with

893
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:41,080
that we can always redraft it with uh
that

894
01:26:38,679 --> 01:26:46,520
correction okay that takes care of a
regular agenda item number six and a

895
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:51,920
regular agenda item number seven
resolution 22 hyphen 03

896
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:58,840
h02 support submission of Natural
Resources Grant application which which

897
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,840
we discussed in the public

898
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,080
hearing

899
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:10,480
discussion Mr President if I can just uh
add a comment that this is kind of a

900
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:15,040
redundancy of what you did last month uh
I kind of jumped the gun not realizing

901
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:20,239
that we actually had to have the public
hearing before you adopted the

902
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:24,880
resolution so essentially in one sense
resending what we did a month ago but

903
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:29,679
approving this resolution tonight
that helps capture the public hearing

904
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:33,239
that was held earlier today BS and
whistles right

905
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:45,719
yeah so we um approved it our last
meeting but any further discussion

906
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,719
comments from

907
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:55,960
Council if not I we need a motion to
approve the resolution

908
01:27:54,360 --> 01:28:01,800
I'll make the motion that we approve
resolution number 22-

909
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:06,360
03-02 supporting the submission of a
natural resources trust fund Grant

910
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:10,280
application
support motion by council member stefler

911
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:17,920
supported by council member
Glasser uh to approve resolution

912
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:29,280
22-03 02 any further
discussion roll call ster hi Alec hi Kaa

913
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:36,639
hi I Dyke Glasser I Schneider I
resolution 22 0302 is unanimously

914
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:44,800
approved that completes our regular
agenda for this evening now is for

915
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:51,280
public comment time for any um issue
that was not on a regular agenda evening

916
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:51,280
is any U public comment for non

917
01:28:52,199 --> 01:29:02,800
agenda this is um regarding the the road
commission we're um proposing to put on

918
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:07,960
a um millage for the roads and um it's
been a discussion on our board you know

919
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:14,920
what the municipalities would like to do
and um my personal opinion is been to

920
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:21,000
put it on the ballot it' be 1.8 Ms which
Elmont taxes are already too high but um

921
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:25,719
I think in my opinion that the voters
should vote on it to have better roads

922
01:29:23,639 --> 01:29:31,960
and then if if it was in the village The
Village would receive 100% of those

923
01:29:28,199 --> 01:29:37,119
fees and I was just wanting to get some
directions what you know your board

924
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:42,840
thought of putting that on the ballot
what your thoughts

925
01:29:39,159 --> 01:29:47,239
was itbe a County Wide millage
but it stays stays

926
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:56,960
here wasn't it like five six years ago
and shot down shot down

927
01:29:54,679 --> 01:30:01,000
and I thought at that time was good
because it's a self sufficient F to help

928
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:07,360
get our road back it's going to say we
don't have a road fund now yeah yeah

929
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:10,760
exactly but but there's um you know and
for the rest of municipalities that

930
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:15,320
didn't do it you know the townships what
they was afraid of is they wasn't going

931
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:20,440
to get enough sharing of it and our
proposal this time is to be a 7030 split

932
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:24,639
the townships would keep you know have
70% of the money that came in to keep in

933
01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:28,719
their Township and the R commission
going keep the other 30 to do you know

934
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:34,440
on the main
roads but you know I kind of wanted to

935
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:38,840
get a you know consensus you know for my
vote to see you know you know but that's

936
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:42,040
where I've stood on it but you know we
have one board member does not think

937
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:47,000
that that should be even brought to the
voters and I I think it should be

938
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:54,000
brought to the voters attention but you
know when we have faced um similar

939
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:59,400
situations um where but like we were we
were going to get that billing oh yeah

940
01:30:55,679 --> 01:31:04,080
that you have and we uh there was going
to have to be a substantial milage

941
01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:10,760
increase and had to put it on the ballot
and 1.8 is um big enough that I think

942
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:18,040
the people should have to vote on it but
I'm also um

943
01:31:13,719 --> 01:31:22,719
uh congratulating in terms of uh being
proactive I mean you know it's still up

944
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:27,239
to the the voters but that's the way
I've felt on it and you know I just you

945
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:31,239
know we have a not sure if we're going
to do it tomorrow if we're going to do

946
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:35,480
it next week but you know we're you know
just want to make sure that you know I'm

947
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:39,639
speaking for you know at least the
councils and you know the townships you

948
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:45,880
know what they're they're thinking of
you know on that vote so so it sounds

949
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:49,280
sounds like there's consensus apprec
appreciate you coming and keeping us in

950
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:56,400
the loop with it thank you yeah we're
supportive and you say hi to Mr JQ any

951
01:31:53,360 --> 01:32:00,040
any event um anybody else with public
comments for non-agenda

952
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:07,840
items thank you bring for bringing that
to us Jim um so uh manager Trent

953
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:12,080
anything you want to bring to council
just a quick update on the summer intern

954
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:17,480
program that you folks authorized us to
move forward with uh our mechanical

955
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:24,639
engineering student did confirm last
week that she's all on board with us and

956
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:31,400
uh the resume of Sam lvll that was
shared with you and the packet uh Sam

957
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:38,040
opted to uh enhance his resume regarding
elections and the county clerk scarfed

958
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:43,800
him up uh so we uh ended up having to
review some other resumés that Kathy

959
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:51,080
Dickens provided and we got confirmation
yesterday from Josh heluk who is a

960
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:56,280
Almont High graduate and uh going to
Northwood University uh majoring in

961
01:32:53,400 --> 01:33:01,440
business minor in finance and uh I think
he'll be a fine addition as as well to

962
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:08,639
to our team so he confirmed yesterday as
well so uh they'll be coming on board uh

963
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,639
late May to help us out for a 10-week

964
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:20,400
program anything to bring to
council yeah um the DDA board um DDA

965
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:24,760
director sha indicated that um when she
did a poll of the board members that

966
01:33:23,159 --> 01:33:31,040
April 5th
would work best for them for the rrc

967
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:36,719
joint um annual meeting so if there's no
objections from Council um I'll have

968
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:40,960
Caitlyn come and we can do the joint
meeting with the Planning Commission DDA

969
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,960
and

970
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:50,880
Council if everybody actually showed up
they usually don't but yeah know we can

971
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:56,920
accommodate we'll see standing room only
yeah okay so that'd be our next meeting

972
01:33:53,480 --> 01:34:00,520
correct okay thank you anything else no
sir

973
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:04,040
Wayne um just that we kind of look at a
plan to try to Maybe cover that new

974
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:08,080
piece of equipment obviously because
again supply of trying to get something

975
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:13,280
and bought and by September I think we
need to make sure we look into something

976
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:19,280
start planning ahead before it gets
here we're making an investment to store

977
01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:25,480
it we're making an investment and yeah
and protecting and make sense that may

978
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,480
take six or seven months to get to

979
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:34,080
yeah would the leaf machine fit in any
uh anybody's garage you think

980
01:34:35,719 --> 01:34:43,000
wheezys I don't know if you've seen her
new one or not she's got airport hanger

981
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:49,840
doors on there folded up like that wow
yeah there was nothing in it

982
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:55,679
either ball court or something what ask
her we pay monthly rents or something

983
01:34:53,719 --> 01:35:01,480
anything else Wayne
Tim Mindy no

984
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:07,639
Jim um since you're here BR where where
is the V truck back it will be any day

985
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:10,800
now I just got a update last week they
were putting it together or I guess two

986
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:17,480
weeks ago they were putting it together
last week uh it's been a long time again

987
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:21,440
that's the employee in the supply
shortage steel was really hard to get at

988
01:35:19,719 --> 01:35:24,800
first and I don't know if it's because
it sat there for so long but there was

989
01:35:23,119 --> 01:35:30,000
issues with the battery and a couple
hydraulic leaks so they fixed those too

990
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:33,920
and you know I've been in touch with
them at least once a month or once every

991
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:39,520
couple weeks because we've had to hire
it out that out a couple times two or

992
01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:44,480
like three times I think four times so
okay the only other thing I have is the

993
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:50,840
code enforcement we got stuff on here
going on a year old that just says

994
01:35:47,679 --> 01:35:56,159
ongoing I mean I don't know I think I've
met the code enforcement person once

995
01:35:53,800 --> 01:36:03,679
since I've been in office can we ask her
to be at the next meeting or

996
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:08,360
him her yeah I don't know how active she
is

997
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:12,280
um I'll have to double check uh some of
those items some of that she just keeps

998
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:16,280
on because it's a reference to her when
she first identified the issue but a lot

999
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:21,080
of those things that are you know like
tall grass or whatever those are

1000
01:36:18,719 --> 01:36:25,560
obsolete right now I asked about I'm
going with the parking ones and the

1001
01:36:22,639 --> 01:36:29,080
blight ones yeah she did clear a few off
when I asked about it before but yeah I

1002
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:34,320
did I've noticed that too there's a few
lingering ones she has reference ones

1003
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:40,920
that she's just holding for reference
maybe move it off the enforcement report

1004
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:43,960
and have a reference report below it
or me see if we can get that cleared up

1005
01:36:43,239 --> 01:36:48,679
and
re-evaluate and uh and since you know

1006
01:36:47,159 --> 01:36:55,000
you're having the joint meeting with the
DDA and PC as well as you know the

1007
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:59,360
followup action on the our M maybe we
can arrange for her to come for the

1008
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:03,800
second meeting in April if necessary
yeah very

1009
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:09,000
good and then can we just make a little
note for the May 17th meeting to since

1010
01:37:06,639 --> 01:37:12,400
it'll be right after water bills are due
to have an update on the Kingsbrook bill

1011
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:17,880
for that
meeting see not

1012
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:26,880
sure
good jaie I'm all set thank you uh we're

1013
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:26,880
Jed thank you everybody

1014
01:37:41,850 --> 01:37:44,889
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