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[0:40] r with the uh Department of Natural
Resources for land acquisition uh this
[0:46] is a view from the West End of the lot
uh the the car is not part of the site
[0:54] but but uh it's the two and a quarter
acre lot at 605 South Main Street just
[1:00] south of the Creekside Hearth and on the
south side of the North Branch of the
[1:05] Clinton
River and there are two buildings that
[1:10] are currently on the site and there
might be a closer picture that a better
[1:15] picture that shows what those look like
[1:21] um talking about this
one this is an aerial view of of the
[1:28] site
[1:37] there we go okay so there's a the
building that's closest to the river and
[1:43] then this slightly larger building
here uh both of the buildings have uh
[1:50] been vacant for many years at this point
uh and have not weathered the storms as
[1:56] well as one might have hoped uh I know
initially when this idea was broached
[2:00] with our friends at The Parks Board uh
there was the thought that maybe one or
[2:05] both of these buildings might be able to
be used for storage purposes because
[2:09] that's part of their uh um project plans
for the next year or two is to uh
[2:16] acquire a shed or have a building that
they can house a lot of their equipment
[2:21] in for storage purposes uh I don't know
that either one of those buildings will
[2:26] suffice without uh a lot of improvement
uh
[2:30] aesthetically uh both buildings are
locked up where you can't gain access
[2:35] without removing the locks and so that's
obviously something we would have to
[2:39] work with the owners uh going forward to
be able to see firsthand what the uh the
[2:45] interior of the buildings look
[2:50] like so the front part of this parcel is
a vacant as you can see here uh part of
[2:57] our strategy for acquiring this property
is to be able to have access off of m53
[3:04] this is the old Ingress egress to the
site when it was used for uh Implement
[3:09] purposes many years ago and maybe some
uh small Machining as
[3:15] well um this area is not in the flood
plane the rest of the property on this
[3:21] half is in the flood plane and we would
anticipate that we would be able to do
[3:27] some uh uh parking area over here would
be
[3:32] gravel so that we're not dealing with
any type of runoff off of
[3:39] asphalt okay
[3:48] Kim this is just
[3:52] showing the uh the Park area as you go
further back on the
[3:57] property uh and you can see
uh the the these are the uh tennis
[4:03] courts I believe that's the Lions Club
there eyes are not deceiving me this is
[4:09] our DPW Yard
here this is Water
[4:14] Street and this is the Creekside
Hearth business
[4:20] establishment and so you can see the
river that's running along
[4:24] here uh when we had the big rain last
month this area flooded out because it's
[4:30] a natural flood
plane which is uh not uncommon for Park
[4:36] areas to be established in uh flood
plane areas that would have some natural
[4:41] flooding after heavy
rains but the the property that were
[4:45] interested in acquiring actually a butts
to the park further up here and the uh
[4:54] there's been some work that's been done
uh by assume Volunteers Of The Parks
[4:59] Board that have cleared out a lot of the
property uh on the Far West End of the
[5:06] property on the the uh south side of the
river and so the uh the the the goal
[5:14] would be over the course of time to
develop some sort of non non-motorized
[5:18] pathway or some sort of walking trail
along the river I had the chance to walk
[5:22] the property yesterday and uh there's a
lot of woods once you get back past the
[5:28] uh the buildings
and so um there's uh you know some
[5:33] natural forestry there and shrubs and uh
could be a very Scenic walkway along the
[5:39] river uh once it's
developed the fact that there is some
[5:43] River Frontage uh was in Lancing today
for the capcon conference and was able
[5:48] to talk with representatives from DNR as
well as Eagle the DNR folks said that we
[5:53] would gain extra points because we do
have a river uh and that the goal would
[5:58] be a walking trail and the fact that it
currently AB buts a community park would
[6:02] get us extra points as well for the
application um uh one of the concerns
[6:09] that was raised when I talked with the
representatives from Eagle uh was that
[6:14] uh they said there might be some
permitting that might be required uh
[6:18] because of the proximity of the proposed
walking trail to the river I'm assuming
[6:25] that's because of a soil disruption uh
and uh they they indicated one of our
[6:31] council members might have some
knowledge about
[6:34] that but uh uh one of the other uh
suggestions that came forward from our
[6:41] discussion last month was that we would
want to do a phase one uh environmental
[6:46] site plan of the property uh in Walking
the property uh uh an individual who had
[6:53] some knowledge of the history of the
property uh did point out to me some
[6:56] areas where there was uh the appearance
of some dump of soil some scrap metals
[7:02] there was actually a converter that was
laying out in the open uh behind the
[7:07] buildings in the tree line area uh I'd
say it's about a 10 by 20 foot area that
[7:13] might be suspect that uh would have to
be checked out but one of the pluses I
[7:18] learned from the friends from Eagle was
that uh you can apply and they will uh
[7:23] perform an environmental uh phase one or
a phase two environmental site plan uh
[7:29] at at no cost so that's a plus as well
[7:37] too the uh as I mentioned last month the
assessor has this property valued uh
[7:45] true cash value at $887,500
uh we would plan to apply for a grant at
[7:51] a maximum Award of 100,000 it's a
75% uh reimbursement from uh the state
[8:02] and we would only be liable for 25% of
the of the cost of acquiring the
[8:07] property and uh there's been a high
percentage of uh applications that have
[8:12] been approved by uh the DNR for land
[8:21] position our last picture Kim I believe
it might
[8:26] be there might be a yeah that's a
[8:34] just uh an area that's showing the uh
Creekside Hearth trying to give you a
[8:41] better view of where the park property
is going Eastward
[8:50] here it's the the river
[8:56] here so I just wanted to provide that as
some background information for Council
[9:01] as well as for the public of if there's
any questions or comments that we would
[9:05] receive and I'm at your disposal Mr
President to try to help answer any
[9:09] questions that do come up anybody have
points to raise with regard to the
[9:15] presentation just for the benefit of uh
public this issue uh as far as National
[9:22] resource trust funds is going to be
addressed as regular agenda item number
[9:28] seven
uh resolution 22-03
[9:32] h-02 so we will be discussing it this
evening okay uh any comments from the
[9:40] from the
[9:44] public looks like
not
[9:48] okay all right um let's call the regular
meeting into order please rise for the
[9:52] Pledge of
Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the
[9:56] flag of the United States of America to
the Republic for which it stands one
[10:02] under God indivisible
[10:07] andice additions deletions changes to
the proposed agenda for this evening are
[10:14] there
any
[10:18] not roll call President Schneider
president president proon Dyke council
[10:25] member Alec present council member CA
present council member man council
[10:30] member Glasser council member stuffler
[10:35] pres Communications um so first it's uh
with have communication from our good
[10:43] friends at uh Great Lakes water
authority uh water
[10:47] charges always happy to hear from them
um so I I looked at the breakdown and uh
[10:55] it's a little bit complex uh Miss
Keesler can you
[11:00] give us a little bit of detail I saw
3.4% increase 3.7% increase not sure
[11:06] what it all means I figure you're the
numbers person so maybe you um
[11:10] essentially it's the
3.4%
[11:14] increase across the board across across
the board um for our for our
[11:19] municipality right yeah right okay y
so is there um is it even possible to
[11:30] um put an
approximate uh what what it will cost
[11:36] the
average if homeowner water
[11:40] user that I do not know um off the top
of my head um for
[11:47] um if we use the same water usage in the
last 12 months um it would be at an
[11:53] approximate 2.7% increase in our cost
alone
[12:02] and I think as the uh communication from
glwa indicates um it's effective what
[12:08] July something and Billings that would
go out August one yep so it won't hit
[12:14] till then but there will be hit
correct um and also I just want you to
[12:21] um make note if I can find
where okay on page seven of your packet
[12:30] if you look on line number 16 and
17 um we do get charged part of um the
[12:39] Flint um Debt Service for Kwa that was
the agreement they had with Flint um
[12:48] when all of that took place um but
number 17 in particular it's um we're
[12:54] being charged for the Highland Park bad
debt adjustments and every single
[12:59] meeting that we attend it always gets
brought up that just because they don't
[13:05] pay their bill why do all the other
municipalities have to pay for
[13:12] it on a regular agenda items as well yep
um
[13:18] number number four agenda it I I look at
that that whole topic it's rather
[13:25] incredible but you know we don't mind
carrying H Park and BS
[13:30] right uh okay um also in communication
Elmont Lions Club annual Easter candy
[13:37] hunt Saturday April 16 2022 11 a.m.
sharp at the Elmont community park there
[13:45] will be candy hot dogs and picture
taking with the Easter
[13:49] Bunny who wants to dress up anybody no
pets allowed okay so that
[13:56] communication uh then we have let's
uh um invitation from the Emily Masonic
[14:04] Lodge
295 Master's wardens and members of
[14:09] honoring the Lodge's 150 birthday
Saturday May 11 2022 at 11:00 a.m. at
[14:17] the Elmont M Masonic Center
building uh on 7300 Dryden Road in
[14:26] Elmont irsvp April 9 so that that's
happening um other council members may
[14:33] or may not have seen this
but I saw I mention and I think it's
[14:39] fairly important so uh we had a
communication from row as we have
[14:44] frequent Communications from them but I
thought this was particularly
[14:48] important um row is indicating to
us note with costs increasing for nearly
[14:57] everything
it is important for local units of
[15:01] government to ensure that fees assessed
for
[15:05] permits address the cost for processing
them you hear that Jim uh if your
[15:12] community has not reviewed its fees
structure recently it is likely due for
[15:18] a significant update during this session
and they having
[15:23] a um seminar essentially Workshop um row
staff will provide examples of fees
[15:32] structures and discuss an approach to
performing an update and uh I don't know
[15:38] whether our manager or clerk treasur
intending uh intend to
[15:43] participate it's they call a Spring
Community Education series since April
[15:49] 19th of 2022 from 7 to
9: um at least we should be paying
[15:55] attention to that than
raise fees but uh everything is all
[16:03] volatile and speaking of volatility
um have we taken any note so far um note
[16:12] hasn't been very long since
[16:18] um The Invasion happened in Europe um as
far as
[16:25] gasoline uh costs because we have a
police department and DPW etc etc and so
[16:32] have you noticed a significant uptake in
cost we haven't gotten this month's bill
[16:40] yet so I'm sure it's going to be quite
significant yeah U and I mean it's
[16:46] something I would imagine we're going to
have to pay attention to um it at this
[16:50] point in time it looks like
this
[16:55] um I can't call it an event situation is
going to go on for an extensive period
[17:00] of time but of course it's so volatile
that uh we just have no clue what's
[17:05] going to happen so the oil prices went
bananas and went went up to just a few
[17:10] days ago $140 a barrel which maybe the
highest ever and this morning it was
[17:17] down to $99 a Barr so but you know we
just don't know so I it's probably
[17:25] something we're going to have to pay
attention to I would thinking how it's
[17:28] going to affect our presid budget and
upcoming
[17:30] budget and of course we don't have any
big expense items coming up do we
[17:37] for oh well so s i' raise that uh any
members of council uh want to
[17:45] participate in that education series uh
got the information on it probably in
[17:51] your email and I've got it as well uh so
uh moving on to um Regular meeting
[17:57] minutes for the March one
meeting uh let's
[18:02] see in Communications where are we
[18:14] here uh the liquor license transfer
paragraph um it was the consens second
[18:22] line um sentence in the beginning in the
middle it was the consensus of
[18:27] council probably to put the words uh at
that yeah that it did not please thank
[18:34] you okay uh regular agenda item number
[18:39] three third line
[18:49] down oh yes okay so U beginning of line
uh line three um summer summer intern
[18:56] program be utilized to document it says
to infiltration probably should strike
[19:02] the word to doesn't make sense there
please thank you and then comment time
[19:14] um and Mr dyes
language what is second line
[19:20] down um so there's a sentence uh this is
um president pro dkes uh com commented
[19:29] in their uh Council comment time
beginning in the middle of line uh two
[19:35] he's
suggested um it says created I presume
[19:39] that word should be creating a
rating
[19:45] okay okay so we typos anybody else with
uh regard to the minutes
[19:52] Corrections objections questions
anything just
[19:59] okay general
[20:06] fund major
streets local
[20:15] streets perkon Recreation
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[20:24] fund Downtown Development Authority fund
[20:30] water tower
[20:34] debt Sur
fund water
[20:38] fund equipment
fund gets know by heard after a while uh
[20:44] payroll register
[20:52] report Water
Report tpw monthly report for February
[21:06] wastewater treatment uh monthly report
for
[21:11] February police
report our ordinance enforcement officer
[21:20] report building permit report AKA
construction code
[21:25] Authority and financial position rep
[21:31] report if there are no comments issues
to discuss entertain a
[21:37] motion support motion made by President
proam Dykes suppor by council member
[21:42] stepler to approve the consent agenda
any further discussion or discussion at
[21:48] all all those in favor say I I
objections uh unanimously approved now
[21:55] is the time audience for public comment
time for any issue that is on our
[22:02] regular agenda for this evening is there
any public comment this
[22:07] evening
[22:12] sir hello my name is Steven Powell and
I'm here to make a public comment
[22:17] regarding the topic of the water main
relocation in the Kalin
[22:22] subdivision I'm the new property owner
of lot 133 in the Kalin subdivision my
[22:29] wife Samantha poell and I closed on a
construction loan to build our first
[22:32] house here in Elmont a month ago on
February 16
[22:37] 2022 we purchased lot 133 from Mr Jim
Novak of Novak construction who is the
[22:42] Builder for our house after seeing no
construction progress on our lot for a
[22:46] few weeks I called The Village manager
Mr David Trent Mr Trent was very helpful
[22:51] when explaining the situation how a
water main was mistakenly installed on
[22:56] lot 133 years ago when it should have
been installed on the adjacent parcel
[23:01] along with a future
Road I understand that mistakes happen
[23:05] and the Village Council is already
diligently working to remedy this issue
[23:10] I strongly encourage the Village Council
to take the necessary steps to resolve
[23:14] this as quickly as possible to avoid any
further delays to the construction of
[23:18] our home thank you very much for your
time and consideration on this matter my
[23:23] family and I are excited and looking
forward to moving into the Elmont
[23:26] community
[23:30] thank you for your presentation yeah we
um have previously been informed of the
[23:35] position that you've been put in which
obviously is not a favorable one but uh
[23:41] yeah is most unfortunate un uh stuff
happens unfortunately but yeah we will
[23:46] be addressing it this evening okay thank
you thank you for your presentation and
[23:50] yeah any further comments feel free to
come
[23:53] back any other public comment this
evening with regard to I items on our
[23:59] regular
agenda be nothing further regular agenda
[24:04] item number one Kingsbrook penalties
waiver
[24:23] request okay
[24:31] thank
[24:38] you thanks for having me
back uh I think last time I was here was
[24:43] back in
November uh and I presented to you the
[24:48] situation we were in with the water
bills uh and I presented a plan to to
[24:53] get them paid up and then get ahead um
I'm happy to say that we we've made all
[24:59] of our payments to date do you mind
terribly just giving us your name again
[25:02] oh sorry Randy mer controller for
residents first which oversees the
[25:07] communities uh Kingsbrook Estates um so
I'm happy to say that uh over the last
[25:13] four months we've made all the payments
uh and the first four payments that we
[25:18] made uh you could see them up here the
24,000 24,000
[25:22] 25,000 and
22,000 uh those are the four big
[25:27] payments the large larger payments that
were supposed to help us get not only
[25:31] caught up but also get us ahead going
forward uh now at this point we plan on
[25:37] doing the $15,000 a month going forward
and that should be about a third of the
[25:43] quarterly water bill that we get uh that
would continue to keep us ahead so that
[25:49] when we finally get the water bill
quarter that we're we already have
[25:52] two-thirds of it paid and then the
payment uh for for that month is really
[25:57] just a scw up give or take you know
15,000 so give or take if that we'll be
[26:03] behind 1800 what's going to be different
though this has been an ongoing problem
[26:07] for years I understand it hasn't been
your personal problem you've just
[26:10] started working for it yeah but there is
nobody in this Village that I can say
[26:15] I've found or heard of that has ever
gotten a
[26:20] $116,000 break on their water bill
ever we're not looking for the break on
[26:25] the water bill we're looking for a break
on the penalty
[26:28] you Ur the penalties your company
occurred the penalties yeah I tell you
[26:33] the only way I would vote to wipe that
out is if you donated that
[26:38] $16,988 to The Village at Almont for Mrs
Keesler to go through and help the
[26:43] elderly or the unfortunate in this town
to pay their water bill since the last
[26:50] 10 years or approximately those people
in this town have footed the bill for
[26:56] the trailer park
I mean if I may with all respect in the
[27:00] last meeting uh you had specifically
said if you know if you believed we
[27:05] would be making our payments on time
you'd be willing to forego the late fees
[27:08] on will to listen to it yes yeah yeah
but I'm listening I've LED this charge
[27:13] all the way through since I became a
council
[27:16] member you know I
just even with the 15,000 payment we're
[27:22] going to roll
in to the end of April when water bills
[27:27] are due and your still going to owe a
little bit of money which is going to
[27:30] start occurring penalties
again why do you feel that
[27:35] way we would we haven't given up the
16,000 yet okay assuming the 16,000 is
[27:43] is waved then we we're actually ahead by
the time the bill comes in we'll be
[27:48] ahead by 28,000 and we're only going to
owe the difference on it so at no point
[27:53] will we be late in fact we'll like I
said we'll have paid ahead 28,000
[27:58] on that
bill flip side of the
[28:03] coin um and all the points made by
council member aler
[28:10] valid is that there has been a dramatic
change with regard to the owners of the
[28:19] mobile home home park taking
responsibility because as you indicate
[28:24] for decades they didn't a and built up
huge um outstanding uh
[28:31] aages um build an excess of 100,000
which is you know totally
[28:36] unacceptable
and I suppose in part
[28:42] motivation uh we express the willingness
to consider waving on the penalties uh
[28:49] ha has um
pushed the uh Park to put in a uh
[28:56] responsible plan where they
will um looks pretty much uh stay
[29:02] current and so yeah the question becomes
I mean there's there certainly is no
[29:09] question is bad behavior I think in most
of our minds especially those that been
[29:13] on Council a long time on the uh as far
as the owner of the park uh
[29:19] responsibility but looks like they uh
well they have you have a new operations
[29:24] manager um um
above you and then you're you're new to
[29:31] this um they're actually taking this
seriously and so do we want to um give
[29:41] them a reward for finally stepping up to
plate and doing what they should have
[29:46] been doing all
along other council
[29:53] members I just have a question for Kim
um wondering if you can just confirm the
[29:58] figures that were presented um on the
penalty amounts yep that um what that
[30:05] 16986 is if you look on your packet on
page
[30:10] 44 it is from
21121 all the way to
[30:16] 21422 that's where that
16986 comes from
[30:30] and it is correct that the two the
November and February invoices contain
[30:35] additional late fees because the prior
penalties had not been brought current
[30:42] the way the system pays it pays the old
water sewer water debt charges
[30:48] first um then goes and pays the
penalties so like you said you never get
[30:55] current on the current bill when you're
making a payment so that's why the
[31:02] interest keeps adding
on um not touching the subject of the
[31:11] $1,511 penalties um just dealing with
the pen the penalties that were accured
[31:16] in November and February um I agree on
at least those that they were making the
[31:24] payments in accordance with the
presented program and so
[31:29] um if we can talk about maybe waving
those first before we tackle the
[31:35] 11,511 um that's at least um my opinion
on those two
[31:40] charges 54 74 92 total for those two
I'll take your word for
[31:49] that well I potential way to deal with
it and and this this is a tough one
[31:57] because C of Prior bad conduct and
looked like the beginnings of quote Good
[32:05] Conduct
um if we follow
[32:11] Mindy's um
suggestion
[32:15] proposal
is
[32:18] perhaps um
waving the November invoice and the
[32:25] February
invoice and
[32:28] and seeing how King kingsbook does the
next one two or three
[32:36] payments um and giving an opportunity to
come back again with regard to 11,000 I
[32:41] realize
it's problematic because it does
[32:45] continue to grow all by itself right if
we leave it sitting there the
[32:50] 11,000 well right now their balance is
only
[32:54] 39910 so if you gave them the credit of
54
[32:59] 7492 they would actually have a credit
balance so when they do the April
[33:07] payment you know it they'll actually
have a credit on their
[33:13] account deal
[33:16] thiss wa the February to November
because that was a roll up and they were
[33:20] showing good faith um to our Point the
Villages incurred expenses dealing with
[33:27] those cred for years so it shouldn't be
scot-free I would say knock 50% off of
[33:34] the
11,000 charge them 50% of the 11,000 and
[33:39] call it a open day that way the village
gets covered for a lot of the expenses
[33:43] we've dealt with from a staff point of
view and you can respect that because
[33:48] you can see the hours that Mr Trent and
Miss keer put into this thing alone plus
[33:53] all the back year crap that we've been
dealing with you guys that way you're
[33:57] getting a break
we're we're getting a break we're
[34:00] showing good faith to you because you've
showing good faith to us and then you're
[34:04] not going back here in three months and
US discussing this again unless you guys
[34:10] start doing what to do p not that I mind
coming here and talking to you guys
[34:17] but
members um Tim's proposal makes a lot of
[34:22] sense to me it takes it it's a balancing
act and um
[34:28] uh benefits both the village and the
park so what do you think
[34:36] Wayne yeah well Tim goes a little bit
farther than Mindy and um and and I
[34:42] actually going into
this I had the same Balancing Act prop
[34:47] of giving giving him some sort of a
break but not the full thing I thoughts
[34:51] along those lines and want to see what
what's the council thought Jackie any so
[34:56] Tim you are saying split the
11,511 I'm saying
[35:05] nov
right
[35:09] after 50% of whatever the 11
5755
[35:19] okay yeah I think it's reasonable it
it's both sides Jim I your point respect
[35:26] it
um they have shown good faith
[35:30] and this way we're helping them they're
helping us and we
[35:37] move the obvious inherent message of
don't fall behind again if it goes back
[35:43] to the way it was there will never be
any lency
[35:47] again well absolutely yeah uh what would
be the timing on the payment what would
[35:52] be the expected timing on the TR on that
the stay current by the end of the next
[35:58] billing cycle like everybody else
does so the May invoice uh the April
[36:05] invoice that comes in I think it's due
May 10th or something like that so on
[36:09] that invoice pay making sure that's of
course paid in full but covering the
[36:15] that's fair we can cover that the 50
5755 plus what you owe and then that
[36:21] should take everything down to what a
zero balance a zero balance
[36:31] so was that a motion
[36:35] Tim okay I'll make the motion that um we
wave the penalty fees um what was
[36:44] theal
5,474
[36:55] 92 okay I make a motion we
wave the November and February invoice
[37:02] amount of $
[37:05] 54742 um since Kingsburg was showing
good faith within their payment schedule
[37:10] during that time period Al um and also
that we reduce the um
[37:17] additional um late fees that were due of
11,5 $511 by
[37:24] 50% and and that PID the difference of
that PL Fe on the
[37:31] next I support
that made by President protm Dyk
[37:37] supported by council member
[37:41] conka any further
[37:45] discussion all those in favor say I I
objections I
[37:58] motion passes by a six to1
vote apprciate the time
[38:03] tonight 5 to
[38:10] one okay regular agenda item number two
uh Planning Commission
[38:21] reappointment
[38:24] so is Tom here this evening Tom's not
here
[38:29] I'm so I'm so embarrassed because I've
served with him all these years I think
[38:32] always mispronounced his last name tesi
teski so the J of Silent yes ah yeah
[38:40] somebody you mispronounced his name uh
uh he's he's terrific he he's been the
[38:45] chairman for a very long time and um the
uh Planning Commission did n did
[38:54] nominate him and um
I'm going to reappoint
[39:00] him uh to a where I last
[39:07] pages for um a term ending March 31
2025 and request council's
[39:17] ratification I'll before
wey
[39:22] rication two terms on on Planning
Commission and Bernie eal to this the
[39:28] time is very dedicated very
knowledgeable and it runs one of the
[39:32] best meetings around he's he very
thorough and his work on Planning
[39:37] Commission yeah and with that said I'll
make the motion I'll make the motion
[39:41] that we
ratify president's appointment of time J
[39:48] to to the commission
for March 31st 202 I'll support you
[39:55] motion made by President Pro D supported
by council member Alec uh to ratify um
[40:02] the um my appointment of U Mr T jeski to
uh the Planning Commission he serves as
[40:09] chairperson and yeah he does a terrific
job um any further discussion all those
[40:15] in favor say I I I
post ratification is unanimously
[40:22] approved regular agenda item number
three second reading and adoption of
[40:27] ordinance 193.684710
[40:42] [Music]
[40:57] we uh made some changes to the odor
standards added a revocation process for
[41:04] a special land use and um updated the
design standards um to add that primary
[41:10] caregiver
[41:16] requirement so um council is become well
before it was in front of the Planning
[41:22] Commission for a number of meetings um
and meeting with our village planner
[41:28] um and it's come before Council two
meetings ago um where there was a
[41:36] consensus to let it go forward and now
we actually have to vote on it this is
[41:41] second reading and if it's if we adopt
it it
[41:46] becomes our official ordinance regarding
medical marijuana zoning
[41:52] ordinance so um is there discussion con
concerns that Council
[41:59] wishes to raise at this point in
[42:05] time uh if not we what we know it was
very care carefully covered at Planning
[42:10] Commission and I think at our meeting uh
two meetings ago so um do I have a
[42:17] motion as to ordinance 193.684710
[42:27] six
[42:30] presented motion made by President protm
Dyk supported by council member Glasser
[42:36] uh to approve ordinance 193.684710
[43:03] if you read this thing is rather
incredible um
[43:15] so I this this is about as sad a tale as
you could possibly have um and so it's
[43:22] been around since
[Music]
[43:30] 2012 before then um well Highland
Park just wasn't paying its bill um
[43:39] and I don't have a lot of
information
[43:45] about it uh other than I think I'm aware
that Highland Park
[43:51] is has is a community with very little
in the way of Revenue
[43:58] so there was a um treatment plant for
that City's Water Treatment Plant um
[44:04] because it was creating a public health
risk to its
[44:08] residents
and which still has not been reped it's
[44:13] never been they've never done
it um and then it's then we're see I
[44:20] guess it's payment history it's paid
less than 1% of its water service
[44:26] charges since
2012
[44:32] and the the S the sad news is that
um they if we think that Kingsburg was
[44:41] behind there 11 million
$374,500
[44:46] um if no payment is made and by the end
of the fiscal year 2023 it'll be 12, 631
[44:53] th000 um and so it means that other
communities are picking up um for
[45:01] Highland Park's
non-payment and so what's being asked by
[45:07] glwa which I'm sure
is probably even more unhappy with the
[45:13] situation in each of the communities
carrying High Park um is a letter that
[45:20] would go to Governor Whitmer essentially
asking the state to pick it up or do
[45:28] something with it and I I have no idea
whether uh the federal money coming
[45:37] coming in um to the state American
Rescue
[45:44] act whether there's
anything there's availability from those
[45:49] funds to pick this up is obviously an
incredible bill um but so what what is
[45:56] being asked by glwa is will we authorize
um our village manager to essentially
[46:04] sign the proposed letter and send it on
to the governor who I'm sure will
[46:10] respond
[46:14] immediately so it it it's um it's a
gesture will there be a check coming
[46:22] from the state right who knows
but OB obviously it's
[46:29] a a terrible
problem
[46:34] so what's council's pleasure do we want
Mr Trent to send on I mean do you have a
[46:40] input on on this David uh over and above
the sending of the letter which I think
[46:46] is a noble gesture for us to do uh as uh
I will be in attendance again tomorrow
[46:52] at the uh last day of the MML capcon
conference
[46:57] uh tomorrow morning we have the
privilege of having breakfast with many
[47:01] legislators that will be uh joining us
and uh and as many legislators that
[47:07] represent our region where glwa is
supplying water and with the multitude
[47:13] of billions that the state now has at
its disposal that it still hasn't
[47:18] figured out how to appropriate for
infrastructure projects Etc that uh I I
[47:25] can't I can't Envision why they wouldn't
be able to come up with $1 million to
[47:29] help pay off the Highland Park debt
because they certainly have made the
[47:33] special effort to take care of lead and
service line Replacements not only in
[47:37] Flint but also Bon Harbor so let's have
the state Step Up take care of this
[47:43] issue with uh our friends in Highland
Park and uh reduce that uh that debt so
[47:49] that all the other communities that are
part of glwa don't have to have that
[47:53] encumbrance going further
I me you be approaching Senator Dy and
[48:00] representative how for starters right
starters and any any other legislators
[48:05] that I'm familiar with that are in
attendance tomorrow jness County
[48:11] Etc y okay would we actually need a
motion for this Kim do you
[48:18] think
consensus
[48:23] so yeah I don't have an issue with it
yeah
[48:31] so get out your
[Laughter]
[48:36] pen yeah okay well thanks for presenting
that always headaches uh going uh on to
[48:46] let me just down here regular agenda
item number five kin water main
[48:53] relocation um and so can you make a
presentation to us manager Trent with
[49:01] regard to
kayin yes following up on what we
[49:06] provided you uh at our last meeting
where we uh shared with you the status
[49:12] of the U water M being discovered in the
improper location as an extension of the
[49:19] Drake Shire subd development back in
20057 Era that uh our friends at roal
[49:26] Prof Professional Services came out last
week and uh surveyed the Lots as well as
[49:32] the
proposed future right of way location
[49:37] and one of the things that we discovered
going through that process is that one
[49:43] of the pins on the back end of lot 133
was in the wrong location and so when
[49:51] our crew went out there a couple weeks
ago to look at the stakes and where the
[49:55] water M was
constructed and also a little bit of
[50:00] confusion about what some of those
Stakes meant for him as far as the house
[50:03] being staked out 10- foot setbacks from
from the house and so on and so forth
[50:10] that uh the appearance was that the
water man was actually going under the
[50:14] proposed
garage once that back pin was relocated
[50:19] and uh roow confirmed that the the
property lines were where they were
[50:25] supposed to be in re-evaluating the the
location of the water m to the house uh
[50:32] we discovered that uh it's not going
under the garage but it's so close to
[50:37] the house and garage that the water main
still needs to be re relocated uh you
[50:42] know if something disastrous ever
happened to that pipe it would you know
[50:47] flood out the the basement of that home
uh and there's just no room to do any
[50:52] work you know as close as that water m
is to uh the proposed house so uh I
[50:59] provided to you a sketch a preliminary
sketch that row has put together uh
[51:04] disregard the typo that says where the
existing 8 inch water man is located
[51:10] that's an existing 12 inch water
M but they they have the location of its
[51:17] current status in the right location and
so um we uh basically are um looking for
[51:26] a a final sketch from row so that
whoever we decide to contract with for
[51:33] relocating the the water main uh knows
exactly where the property line for the
[51:40] RightWay is and uh establish a 15 foot
easement in that right away and the
[51:48] water M would be located as close to the
center of that easement as possible uh
[51:53] so that there's plenty of space for uh
Mr pre going forward uh to U you know
[52:00] develop that future right away for his
property that's to the east uh you know
[52:05] at whatever point he decides to move
forward with that project uh regular
[52:10] Road width is about 24 feet 12 feet for
each Direction so there's still plenty
[52:17] of room in the right of way uh you know
to not impact the the easement where the
[52:23] water main would be located
assuming that Council were to
[52:29] approve um the proposed
resolution I we had some discussion at
[52:35] the last meeting I think as far as where
the funds would come from we have bottom
[52:40] line here
42,500 and those funds would come
[52:45] from my suggestion at this point would
be that we use some of our arpa Monies
[52:50] to cover that cost and have it be
designated into the waters fund to help
[52:57] cover this cost and then uh going
forward if we're able to uh get any
[53:04] confirmation from tital work that's
still being investigated to see was
[53:08] there ever an easement
recorded uh on that uh property when it
[53:13] was just vacant land so that's still a
work in progress we don't have an update
[53:17] on that yet uh I have been in touch with
our insurance company to just let them
[53:23] know that this is where we're at to see
if it's possible for us to file a claim
[53:28] based on what we know today where we did
find uh documentation on the final site
[53:34] plan that was approved by H former
Village manager Jerry Oaks that there
[53:40] was a uh a designation for a future
RightWay that showed where the water
[53:45] main was supposed to be
located but whether or not an easement
[53:51] was ever created and recorded is still
up in the air and that's something that
[53:56] we're hoping to find out through our
title title search as well now in this
[54:01] regard Mr Novak Who currently owns that
future right away has graciously agreed
[54:07] to help resolve this issue and uh will
give us an easement for putting the
[54:13] water main in that right of way because
he's the owner of that property and uh
[54:19] and row will uh create the the document
for us to review and
[54:27] uh get it recorded at the county clerk's
office Jimmy have you seen this
[54:51] preliminary just received this sketch uh
early Monday afternoon
[54:57] Mr Snider as of right now construction
has started on lot 133 the sewer and
[55:02] water was tapped in and I believe the
basement was dug there should be no
[55:06] reason moving forward that we would be
holding up anything other than at the
[55:11] point when we actually moved the water
man or relocate it it' be a lot easier
[55:16] to move a 12in water man before there
was a whole structure there too late
[55:20] it's already done the the hole is
already dug so
[55:28] sure you can swing over a basement
[55:37] wall want me to speak now but you know I
thought that this water M was where is
[55:44] proposed now that's why I always thought
it was in that you know that RightWay
[55:48] Loot and you know even though there all
the research that we've done there's do
[55:54] T of work that shows that there's sure
and we've you know I've had my title
[55:59] company look twice yeah I I don't my
opinion is I don't think we hold up
[56:05] their project I think we make the
commitment to spend a $42,500 and get
[56:11] this project done so it doesn't
interfere with Mr Novak's business the
[56:15] homeowner can get into town it's an
error that's happened 20 years ago
[56:22] that you know there's many new faces
since then and not their fault it's not
[56:27] our fault it's our problem to fix it not
[56:40] his already received
146,000 plus or minus and then we'll get
[56:45] another 146,000 next
[56:54] year infrastructure work
that was let's make sure when easement
[56:59] comes in that it's going to be brought
to council
[57:04] okay yeah that's one of the the the
things that we've learned going through
[57:08] this process that that's a good uh
catchall to make sure that we have
[57:13] Council approve all easements just so
that we have a record of it in in a
[57:18] council meeting so that it's easy for us
to look up uh you know a lot of
[57:22] municipalities do do that uh but you
know that's going to be our procedure
[57:27] going forward I mean and Brian Brian's
been great with it I mean I've looked at
[57:31] some of the maps with I mean you fight
that issue every day with little lines
[57:34] the water m is not Ian it was never
documented in the past and I mean I'm
[57:39] just and you keep updating as these
problems pop he updates and updates and
[57:43] updates I mean and unfortunately we
didn't know that it it was going to be
[57:47] in the way until the lot was stake sure
when we got the Miss Dig that's when
[57:50] we're like that's not right right but
it's not where it's supposed to be and
[57:56] at least we can't find anything it needs
to be moved or not moved but
[58:04] relocated
ceased I
[58:07] believe that um Jerry W Jerry Oaks was
not the manager at the time this
[58:13] happened uh Sally McCrae was acting
manager and I thought it was her that
[58:18] signed the site
plan actually uh well both of them had
[58:23] their fingers in the pie you know she
signed off
[58:26] as clerk at that time uh but Jerry
signed off on the actual site plan uh M
[58:33] McCrae signed off on the Miler Prince
that we have in our possession before he
[58:38] became ill the the the in order to um
record an easement prepare an easement
[58:46] and record it you have to have your
Meats in bounds in other words
[58:50] surveyed is the meets in bounds for the
easement is that already set forth in
[58:56] site plan so you can off of the site
plan you can actually prepare a a
[59:02] document to be recorded with the
register of deeds you have to have a
[59:06] legal description exactly yeah and uh is
that in the safe plan uh no so that has
[59:13] to be done also all the site plan shows
is that there's a future RightWay that's
[59:18] directly across from dawn drive and
that's where it's sketched in where the
[59:25] water should have been located obviously
we're approximately 20t off from where
[59:31] it should have been so we have to retain
Services of
[59:35] duffler it's the best survey around to
for him to do I mean he has to do a
[59:41] survey right we have to have
that contract they they they have their
[59:45] own surveying crew so they they've come
and done that they're GNA put together
[59:49] that legal description for the easement
we'll review that with Mr Novak and uh
[59:56] incur on the accuracy of it and then uh
make arrangements to get it recorded uh
[1:00:01] we're learning that uh whoever the
grantee is is ultimately responsible for
[1:00:07] taking it to the county courthouse and
getting it recorded with the register a
[1:00:15] Deeds well we would be the Mr Noak the
grant tour we're the grantee so we're
[1:00:22] responsible for getting it recorded
that's easy enough to do times the
[1:00:26] Builder or the gror might do it you know
but in this case we're going to make
[1:00:30] sure my office is usually at the
courthouse right across the street from
[1:00:34] registered Deeds at least once a week so
we'd be happy to record
[1:00:39] it save somebody a
trip
[1:00:44] okay all right well um any further
discussion from Council is a big
[1:00:49] decision to make um I think the
discussion that's been had so far
[1:00:56] um Mak sense and it's substantive
and yeah mistake happened a long time
[1:01:06] ago I'm guessing that Jerry was probably
ill at the time but must have still been
[1:01:12] on
[1:01:19] board your counil I paid a lot of money
to engineering Fe need to make sure this
[1:01:27] happen and that's ultimately who was at
fault for this problem now yeah sounds
[1:01:35] like yeah thank you for that explanation
but they don't make it whenever they
[1:01:39] make mistake doesn't cost them make it
cost everybody else yeah you
[1:01:45] noticed I think there's you know other
fingers in the pie you know as Mr Novak
[1:01:51] indicated you know we had row
Professional Services out there during
[1:01:55] the Drake sh project so something
obviously went a miss that there wasn't
[1:02:01] you know an oversight of where this
water man you know critical piece of
[1:02:06] infrastructure got located but by the
same token uh whoever the contractor was
[1:02:11] that actually installed it you know
should have had a print that specified
[1:02:16] where it supposed to go and now you know
there's something on the final site plan
[1:02:19] print that shows it's supposed to be in
the right away and so something happened
[1:02:24] there with lots of vac land where they
just cut
[1:02:29] across
uh yeah and so instead of going directly
[1:02:35] across from dawn Drive they took a stub
that was 20 feet to the south of dawn
[1:02:40] drive and just went right across the
street and at a slight angle across what
[1:02:45] is now lot 133 we end up with this uh
conflict the stoop brothers were the
[1:02:53] developers at that time that is true
[1:03:03] if we're going to do a motion on this
how should the motion be structured and
[1:03:08] what would the wording be and I
apologize that I forgot to add that
[1:03:13] tidbit of information yeah uh we
acquired several quotes uh one of which
[1:03:18] was uh significantly less than everybody
else we had three quotes that were in
[1:03:23] the $20,000 range uh we uh two of those
uh well actually three of the vendors
[1:03:30] everybody that quoted in the 20s came
out and saw firsthand what we were up
[1:03:35] against and what was involved uh We've
identified a company from Auburn Hills
[1:03:40] Superior
Excavating uh that were recommending as
[1:03:44] of the information we had when the
council packet was put together last
[1:03:47] Thursday to do the work uh they have a
substantial resume which is included in
[1:03:53] your packet too that shows uh many
municipalities that they've done work
[1:03:57] for over the years uh it's a company
that's about 50 years old now uh started
[1:04:02] by the current owner's father so he
followed in his dad's footsteps and has
[1:04:07] been running the firm for the last 15
years since his dad passed away they
[1:04:11] have several uh Crews so they're able to
address this project as early as next
[1:04:18] week so that it would be completed by
the end of next week we have the
[1:04:22] material on reserve so the material can
be ordered uh pending your folks
[1:04:26] approval of the project
tonight uh just to advise you uh Mr
[1:04:32] Novak uh gave me a verbal quote last
Thursday uh he has not had a chance to
[1:04:39] put anything in writing uh in our
conversation last week when he said he
[1:04:44] was able to do the work uh it did not
include pressure testing which is one of
[1:04:48] our requirements he has indicated that
he'd be willing to do the pressure
[1:04:53] testing uh and uh you know he would do
do it for an overall price of
[1:04:58] $10,000 now while that sounds very
generous uh one of my concerns and not
[1:05:04] anything against Mr Novak or the quality
of his work we we know Mr Novak's been
[1:05:08] an integral part of our community for
many years with all the developments
[1:05:12] that have taken place but I I'm I'm
concerned that in light of what's
[1:05:17] transpired and that he's the owner of
lot 133 and doing the work for Mr Powell
[1:05:23] and his family that we might better
served by having a let's say third party
[1:05:28] actually perform the work even though
it's going to cost us more but I just
[1:05:32] think that it it takes that hus off of
Mr Novak to to do that work and that we
[1:05:38] have H outside parties actually
performing so I think just the opposite
[1:05:44] on that no no offense to you Jim I hope
you you'll take it the wrong way
[1:05:54] but uh I think just the opposite on that
Mr Novak knows the layout of the land he
[1:05:59] knows the line he he he's already doing
the excavation and stuff around there he
[1:06:06] doesn't have to move his Bill's
considerably cheaper because he doesn't
[1:06:09] have to move his equipment from the city
to hear well hang on Jim because I got a
[1:06:14] quote from somebody else and it wasn't
put in the packet because it wasn't put
[1:06:17] in there on time so we got to be fair
here okay I got a $23,000 quote who I
[1:06:24] would actually hire those people over
all these people and it didn't get put
[1:06:27] in the packet I'm the guy that has to
deal with the people I'm not
[1:06:34] that there's a health risk at at Cost
here when you're taking a water man out
[1:06:40] of service reduced pressure is going to
be over in uh Drake Shire and kayin and
[1:06:46] that's the exact same water man that was
out of service for over a month last
[1:06:49] summer so I don't want to repeat of the
water quality issue that I went through
[1:06:54] last summer so we really I the DPW needs
to hire somebody with some sort of
[1:07:00] professionalism that will come in and
maybe teach us something so we my
[1:07:05] recommendation is for
Superior and that way we can get it over
[1:07:10] and done with there's a supply shortage
there's an employee shortage if we keep
[1:07:14] trying to get more quotes and bring more
stuff to the table it's going to the the
[1:07:17] ship's going to
sail but my preferred person that I
[1:07:22] would hire did not get his quote in by
last last Thursday is that correct
[1:07:27] correct so we can't go back we need to
make a decision with these three people
[1:07:33] here I'm sorry but fair is
[1:07:40] fair I will charge for that they then
I'm trying to be nice and if we don't
[1:07:45] want to save money then that's fine I
might as well make some more money so
[1:07:50] not a
[1:07:53] problem it's a problem this water man
was out of service last year for over a
[1:07:59] month and we had water quality issues
from Drake Shire and my crew my
[1:08:06] St that's why it wasn't because you said
certain I'm not bmj you work for
[1:08:13] bmj I don't work for bmj you bided the
job and you decided to not do what was
[1:08:19] on that bit I'm not
[1:08:24] good yeah
uh so my I'm the I'm the water operator
[1:08:30] for the village everything that happens
they don't come after all of you guys or
[1:08:33] the contract they come after me if
something isn't right there this is I
[1:08:38] think that we have been moving forward
very fast on this and we can we can get
[1:08:43] it done within the next month but
there's a process to do this with
[1:08:47] without harming people's life and safety
it's their
[1:08:52] water I me 23 houses are in there for 24
houses that I installed I guess their
[1:08:59] water not installed right but took every
pressure test that was done right our
[1:09:03] water quality problem last year was in
Drake
[1:09:05] Shire off of the same Main and my
department had to work with Engineers to
[1:09:12] fix
it and it was not our
[1:09:17] job so I I I just feel we should hire I
feel we deserve to hire somebody
[1:09:24] that's getting back to uh the original
homeowner requests as he'd like to move
[1:09:29] forward we have three quotes in front of
us and we've never accepted as a council
[1:09:36] verbal quotes So if we want to move
forward with this we have to make a
[1:09:42] decision tonight and select a contractor
with the quotes that we have in front of
[1:09:46] us like I I
understand like I understand what Jim is
[1:09:52] saying you know but we we don't have a
quote to consider in front of us and I
[1:09:58] mean I I would hope Jim that you would
want to achieve the same aim and help
[1:10:05] the your homeowner
here de to go forward so it's not
[1:10:10] anybody so we got time
[1:10:18] so so um what what Mr no appears to be
presenting to us um is is Council
[1:10:26] willing to pay him $10,000 for the
easement or it just doesn't go
[1:10:32] forward it's what it sounds
[1:10:36] like you're going to have to hire roow
to oversee that then because my crew is
[1:10:40] not going to oversee that and we're
saving a ton of money by not bringing
[1:10:45] the engineers in because we're the ones
with the water license I have four water
[1:10:49] operators that you know will oversee the
project how much would roow charge us I
[1:10:55] don't know they they actually told us
not to you know there's a process here
[1:10:59] we still have to go through and get a
permit from Eagle you can't just take a
[1:11:03] waterm apart and move it I mean there's
a process that you know my concern is
[1:11:10] the health and safety of my
[1:11:17] [Music]
[1:11:22] residents make without and M we're not
going to negotiate an easement during
[1:11:27] coun remember you'll see it in the next
item on the agenda there is an employee
[1:11:32] shortage and a in a supply shortage out
there
[1:11:40] so that's
[1:11:46] true
true weeks and Mr if you can negotiate
[1:11:52] an EIC with Mr no
go from
[1:11:57] there how long is our equipment on hold
for or from uh so I I purchased the
[1:12:03] equipment myself or the the the pipes
because we save 6% right there
[1:12:07] contractors will Jack the price up but
whenever we do hire a contractor the
[1:12:11] contractor still has to touch base with
the supplier to make sure that he's
[1:12:14] getting the parts that he wants I just
went and put them on
[1:12:20] hold and I can't I can't buy the parts
until the contractor approves the list
[1:12:26] because there may be something in there
that he
[1:12:29] wants so that's why we're paying that's
why that's a separate item normally that
[1:12:33] would be together but because of the
situation I decided to try to save will
[1:12:38] we save 6% on
[1:12:42] taxes well the way things stand right
now
[1:12:46] think Tim's correct we can't move
forward yeah I wish we were moving
[1:12:52] forward but what I would anticipate at
our next meeting there'll be three items
[1:12:57] for action one would be uh the approval
of the cost of the easement then the
[1:13:03] purchase of the materials as Brian has
outlined and then the uh decision on
[1:13:08] which contractor we would use to do the
[1:13:14] project
okay sorry Mr
[1:13:18] Paul okay we're
tbling that issue agenda regular agenda
[1:13:23] item number six Leaf machine purchase
speaking of
[1:13:31] money Okay who wants to make a
[1:13:37] presentation so so we have the um
correspondence from Brian and then we
[1:13:43] have the uh Memo from
our treasur as far as budgetary
[1:13:51] impact and then we
have memorandum
[1:13:55] and suggested action from our
[1:14:00] manager so who wants
to take this
[1:14:06] um can we buy a couple of
these that's what I thought after Kim's
[1:14:12] financial analysis I I thought let's buy
two and maybe we could buy three and
[1:14:17] we'll do the whole County right yeah
that's what I was thinking so well
[1:14:23] somebody take the ball and run with it
[1:14:28] well uh if if I can just give a brief
summation uh you have the uh Brian's
[1:14:35] analysis of the cost for repair we did
have a local Machine Shop come out and
[1:14:41] actually look at the machine as well to
see if there was any possibility of
[1:14:45] somebody locally being able to do a
miracle and actually make it uh
[1:14:51] repairable at a much lower cost and
after review of the uh issues with the
[1:14:57] machine and some of the bearings Etc it
would just be cost prohibited to have an
[1:15:02] engineer go through and you know
basically tear it apart try to do a
[1:15:06] design what needs to be fixed what needs
to be machined Etc we already have that
[1:15:11] from uh the folks from Bell uh Bell
equipment and so uh uh our
[1:15:18] recommendation is going to be that uh
when we come back in April that we're
[1:15:22] going to have not only the the old leaf
that but some other uh items that we
[1:15:27] would want to dispose of at the local
County Auction that's held up at the
[1:15:31] fairgrounds here in the spring and so
that really so basically we're looking
[1:15:38] to council for direction on do you
desire for us to be able to continue
[1:15:43] this service for our citizens do we want
to pick up leaves every Autumn during
[1:15:48] The Fall season if your decision is yes
we want to provide that service our DPW
[1:15:53] department is more than able to do that
we just need a new piece of equipment to
[1:15:57] accomplish that and the best methodology
for us to do that is to acquire the
[1:16:03] proposed piece of equipment that you
have in front of you tonight uh at A
[1:16:06] 93,000 Plus cost and uh but has outlined
you know one of the benefits is that uh
[1:16:14] we can do more Leaf PE more leaf pickup
faster more efficiently with the less
[1:16:20] Manpower and uh and coupled with that
one of the concerns that you folks
[1:16:25] raised was well uh if we're going to do
leaf pickup where can we dispose of the
[1:16:29] leaves and uh uh we lagon has agreed uh
to provide access to her field for us to
[1:16:38] dump the leaves there and then she does
her manicuring of uh all the leaves that
[1:16:44] are there and does her composting for U
fertilizer for her
[1:16:50] field so last year the leaf machine the
last three years the leaf machine has
[1:16:55] been giving us a lot of trouble Jim
actually witnessed three or four
[1:16:58] different times he was down at the
garage and one time he encouraged us not
[1:17:02] to even use it but because I have such a
dedicated staff we rolled with it anyway
[1:17:07] and we were able to make it through the
season but again in November I called
[1:17:12] for parts for this thing and if I would
have ordered them in November it would
[1:17:15] have not been here till March so as of
right now even if we order parts which
[1:17:22] they paid $166,000 for the machine it's
not worth putting $23,000 into it but
[1:17:28] tomorrow if I get to order machine it
still won't be here till September that
[1:17:32] was before the war between Russia and
Ukraine okay so
[1:17:40] um it's the only place in the state it's
the same place we buy our sweepers from
[1:17:45] and they have Mobile Mechanics which is
a huge deal for us because we we don't
[1:17:50] employ a mechanic or anything like that
I know it's a it it's a it's a expensive
[1:17:57] purchase but I feel it's what we need to
do if we're going to continue to the
[1:18:02] service it it seems um that unless we're
making a de decision this
[1:18:11] evening or in the very very near future
that if we're going to continue to do
[1:18:17] leaf pickup we have to move on it at
this point so if we're ready to make a
[1:18:22] decision we're not going to do it we
don't have to buy this piece of
[1:18:25] equipment if we are going to continue
which we've done for many years and I
[1:18:30] something we' discussed going back and
forth a little bit on um then seem we
[1:18:36] need this um equipment and from a
financial standpoint um it would be an
[1:18:41] installment purchase contract if you
carefully read our uh treasurers uh
[1:18:47] memorandum um in some respects you save
money
[1:18:52] and uh here's let's see first year you
save approximately 9500 in years 2
[1:18:58] through 11 additional cost be
approximately 1,500 annually um and we
[1:19:03] do have room to do the installment
contract as far as our
[1:19:08] financing so that's the decision we have
to
[1:19:14] make
yeah yeah I mean our our citizens pay a
[1:19:21] lot of money in property taxes
is to give him something yes it's an
[1:19:27] expensive item but if you approach it
from this standpoint it's not going to
[1:19:31] be too big a financial
hit I also feel like we have a lot of um
[1:19:37] large mature trees along our streets and
that um without proper equipment to pick
[1:19:43] that up I'm sure would you guys would
spend a lot of time just working to
[1:19:47] clear the streets and the storm drains
and all of that so when I started you
[1:19:51] know 17 years ago or whatever I'm long
time ago like kayin and Macintosh they
[1:19:58] didn't have leaves now they do you know
so I mean it's going to be like that in
[1:20:02] 10 years with Drake Sher and all that
the adding on so we I am thinking about
[1:20:07] the future instead of right now with
this so um you know it it takes two guys
[1:20:13] to operate instead of three and you know
it's got a a control center where we're
[1:20:19] not walking behind the machine that's
twisted ankles you know because we're
[1:20:23] always falling and tripping on the curb
you know it's it's just a safer more
[1:20:27] productive machine and I think that that
is what this town needs with the amount
[1:20:32] of leaves that we collect so and it does
not affect the truck being ready to plow
[1:20:39] snow or any of that so it's a separate
unit that you pull and you can have your
[1:20:43] truck ready for snow to where now we
have to take everything apart and you
[1:20:48] know put it back together if it gets we
get a nice you know day before our
[1:20:53] ending date you
[1:20:59] know it'll be if I order it tomorrow
they they're saying September so barely
[1:21:05] enough time I mean I'm not going to lie
to you that there's there's there's a
[1:21:09] supply shortage I think you know that
with your line of work and there's
[1:21:13] employees that nobody has employees for
some reason and even though they're
[1:21:16] saying September like you said with the
war going on it could jump well I was
[1:21:20] worried about
[1:21:25] I was I was worried about the trucker
the you know March 1 with the US
[1:21:30] truckers well then the war started so
now I'm worried about the war you know
[1:21:34] and that does affect i' still worry
about the truckers with
[1:21:38] the crazy yeah oh
yeah this this new one also is going to
[1:21:44] be a lot cleaner as far as the dust
Factor too right yeah I mean you've had
[1:21:47] issues with the the truck pulling it
that we spent money to repair because of
[1:21:51] the the the dust and the particles of
the leaves got stuck down in the HX
[1:21:56] system y y that's correct so with it
being a separate unit that just helps
[1:22:02] out better any storage issues with it uh
we don't obviously we don't have a place
[1:22:07] to store it's going to sit
outside I mean I talked to David we
[1:22:11] should probably look for someplace to
rent to store it or something or you
[1:22:15] know I don't know where we're at with a
future Bill most of our stuff is outside
[1:22:20] I we just don't have any room so that
that is a a
[1:22:25] a problem that's the worst thing for our
stuff now is it sits outside for 10
[1:22:30] months out of the year you know 11
months and on short notice and maybe
[1:22:37] start squeezing some money for working
it into your budget to get some
[1:22:44] building discussing that for years
unfortunately we did talk about it it's
[1:22:50] pretty
[1:22:52] scary get better DNR Grant and we have
those buildings and look good maybe we
[1:22:58] can rent you some
space when the addition going to be like
[1:23:02] 100 Grand something like that
[1:23:06] uh if we could do it
[Laughter]
[1:23:12] forp it's you know the the buildings
were built when everything was smaller
[1:23:17] you know we've we've knocked out our
doors and made them taller because
[1:23:20] everything new is Big you know so but
there is no we get all the important
[1:23:25] stuff inside but usually you know
there's stuff outside we do need to
[1:23:29] think about doing something even if it's
a cold storage or if we rent some some
[1:23:34] place you
know yeah like a lean to or something we
[1:23:38] should probably look into something we
can maybe put that in the
[1:23:42] price to take care of
it so do we have a motion on that and we
[1:23:48] actually if if we're moving ahead on
this we need two motions one would be um
[1:23:55] for approval of purchasing the leaf
machine and then secondly the agreement
[1:24:01] for land use need a motion on that as
well right Kim
[1:24:06] correct
so do we have a
[1:24:15] motion
I'll approve from Bell equipment company
[1:24:20] to purchase banel Spartan Leaf Pro in
Leaf Pro selfcontained leaf machine at
[1:24:27] the cost of
[1:24:34] 93,94 made by council member of cona
supported by uh council member
[1:24:38] Glasser um and stated on the record to
purchase the leaf machine at
[1:24:46] 93,94 further
discussion all those in favor say I I
[1:24:53] objections uh second would be agreement
for land use I I do want to mention um
[1:25:01] that the agreement was acceptable in
terms of you contract language um except
[1:25:08] there's a major
typo um on the second to last paragraph
[1:25:13] adherence to local state and federal
laws second uh line down agreement shall
[1:25:18] be invalidated by any court and it says
of administrative ruling I'm sure they
[1:25:24] me to say or administrative ruling
because ruling by Accord is not
[1:25:27] administrative but um various agencies
like Eagle whatever they're that's
[1:25:33] administrative so it's supposed to say
by any court or administrative ruling I
[1:25:39] I'm willing I'm willing to sign it and
maybe
[1:25:42] just um uh cross out of put or above
initial it I mean so we could move
[1:25:48] forward right away but that does need to
be corrected I just wanted to mention
[1:25:52] that so do we have a a motion on the
agreement for land use with make the
[1:25:58] motion to approve the land use agreement
with Lagan Farms LLC for the leaf
[1:26:02] disposal as outlined in the contract
with the changes that Mr Snyder had just
[1:26:07] mentioned I'll support that motion made
by council member Alex Bo by council
[1:26:11] member conka uh to approve the agreement
for land use as indicated with the
[1:26:15] change that I uh suggested any further
discussion all those in favor say I I
[1:26:23] opposed
agreement for land use is approved I'll
[1:26:27] write in the change and it should be
fine and if uh wh has any problem with
[1:26:34] that we can always redraft it with uh
that
[1:26:38] correction okay that takes care of a
regular agenda item number six and a
[1:26:44] regular agenda item number seven
resolution 22 hyphen 03
[1:26:49] h02 support submission of Natural
Resources Grant application which which
[1:26:54] we discussed in the public
[1:26:59] hearing
[1:27:02] discussion Mr President if I can just uh
add a comment that this is kind of a
[1:27:07] redundancy of what you did last month uh
I kind of jumped the gun not realizing
[1:27:12] that we actually had to have the public
hearing before you adopted the
[1:27:16] resolution so essentially in one sense
resending what we did a month ago but
[1:27:22] approving this resolution tonight
that helps capture the public hearing
[1:27:26] that was held earlier today BS and
whistles right
[1:27:34] yeah so we um approved it our last
meeting but any further discussion
[1:27:42] comments from
[1:27:48] Council if not I we need a motion to
approve the resolution
[1:27:54] I'll make the motion that we approve
resolution number 22-
[1:27:59] 03-02 supporting the submission of a
natural resources trust fund Grant
[1:28:04] application
support motion by council member stefler
[1:28:08] supported by council member
Glasser uh to approve resolution
[1:28:13] 22-03 02 any further
discussion roll call ster hi Alec hi Kaa
[1:28:23] hi I Dyke Glasser I Schneider I
resolution 22 0302 is unanimously
[1:28:34] approved that completes our regular
agenda for this evening now is for
[1:28:40] public comment time for any um issue
that was not on a regular agenda evening
[1:28:47] is any U public comment for non
[1:28:52] agenda this is um regarding the the road
commission we're um proposing to put on
[1:28:58] a um millage for the roads and um it's
been a discussion on our board you know
[1:29:04] what the municipalities would like to do
and um my personal opinion is been to
[1:29:11] put it on the ballot it' be 1.8 Ms which
Elmont taxes are already too high but um
[1:29:18] I think in my opinion that the voters
should vote on it to have better roads
[1:29:23] and then if if it was in the village The
Village would receive 100% of those
[1:29:28] fees and I was just wanting to get some
directions what you know your board
[1:29:34] thought of putting that on the ballot
what your thoughts
[1:29:39] was itbe a County Wide millage
but it stays stays
[1:29:48] here wasn't it like five six years ago
and shot down shot down
[1:29:54] and I thought at that time was good
because it's a self sufficient F to help
[1:29:59] get our road back it's going to say we
don't have a road fund now yeah yeah
[1:30:04] exactly but but there's um you know and
for the rest of municipalities that
[1:30:08] didn't do it you know the townships what
they was afraid of is they wasn't going
[1:30:12] to get enough sharing of it and our
proposal this time is to be a 7030 split
[1:30:18] the townships would keep you know have
70% of the money that came in to keep in
[1:30:22] their Township and the R commission
going keep the other 30 to do you know
[1:30:27] on the main
roads but you know I kind of wanted to
[1:30:30] get a you know consensus you know for my
vote to see you know you know but that's
[1:30:36] where I've stood on it but you know we
have one board member does not think
[1:30:40] that that should be even brought to the
voters and I I think it should be
[1:30:44] brought to the voters attention but you
know when we have faced um similar
[1:30:49] situations um where but like we were we
were going to get that billing oh yeah
[1:30:55] that you have and we uh there was going
to have to be a substantial milage
[1:31:01] increase and had to put it on the ballot
and 1.8 is um big enough that I think
[1:31:08] the people should have to vote on it but
I'm also um
[1:31:13] uh congratulating in terms of uh being
proactive I mean you know it's still up
[1:31:20] to the the voters but that's the way
I've felt on it and you know I just you
[1:31:25] know we have a not sure if we're going
to do it tomorrow if we're going to do
[1:31:28] it next week but you know we're you know
just want to make sure that you know I'm
[1:31:33] speaking for you know at least the
councils and you know the townships you
[1:31:38] know what they're they're thinking of
you know on that vote so so it sounds
[1:31:43] sounds like there's consensus apprec
appreciate you coming and keeping us in
[1:31:47] the loop with it thank you yeah we're
supportive and you say hi to Mr JQ any
[1:31:53] any event um anybody else with public
comments for non-agenda
[1:31:58] items thank you bring for bringing that
to us Jim um so uh manager Trent
[1:32:05] anything you want to bring to council
just a quick update on the summer intern
[1:32:10] program that you folks authorized us to
move forward with uh our mechanical
[1:32:14] engineering student did confirm last
week that she's all on board with us and
[1:32:21] uh the resume of Sam lvll that was
shared with you and the packet uh Sam
[1:32:27] opted to uh enhance his resume regarding
elections and the county clerk scarfed
[1:32:34] him up uh so we uh ended up having to
review some other resumés that Kathy
[1:32:40] Dickens provided and we got confirmation
yesterday from Josh heluk who is a
[1:32:47] Almont High graduate and uh going to
Northwood University uh majoring in
[1:32:53] business minor in finance and uh I think
he'll be a fine addition as as well to
[1:32:58] to our team so he confirmed yesterday as
well so uh they'll be coming on board uh
[1:33:04] late May to help us out for a 10-week
[1:33:08] program anything to bring to
council yeah um the DDA board um DDA
[1:33:17] director sha indicated that um when she
did a poll of the board members that
[1:33:23] April 5th
would work best for them for the rrc
[1:33:28] joint um annual meeting so if there's no
objections from Council um I'll have
[1:33:34] Caitlyn come and we can do the joint
meeting with the Planning Commission DDA
[1:33:38] and
[1:33:42] Council if everybody actually showed up
they usually don't but yeah know we can
[1:33:48] accommodate we'll see standing room only
yeah okay so that'd be our next meeting
[1:33:53] correct okay thank you anything else no
sir
[1:33:57] Wayne um just that we kind of look at a
plan to try to Maybe cover that new
[1:34:02] piece of equipment obviously because
again supply of trying to get something
[1:34:05] and bought and by September I think we
need to make sure we look into something
[1:34:10] start planning ahead before it gets
here we're making an investment to store
[1:34:16] it we're making an investment and yeah
and protecting and make sense that may
[1:34:21] take six or seven months to get to
[1:34:26] yeah would the leaf machine fit in any
uh anybody's garage you think
[1:34:35] wheezys I don't know if you've seen her
new one or not she's got airport hanger
[1:34:39] doors on there folded up like that wow
yeah there was nothing in it
[1:34:45] either ball court or something what ask
her we pay monthly rents or something
[1:34:53] anything else Wayne
Tim Mindy no
[1:34:58] Jim um since you're here BR where where
is the V truck back it will be any day
[1:35:04] now I just got a update last week they
were putting it together or I guess two
[1:35:09] weeks ago they were putting it together
last week uh it's been a long time again
[1:35:14] that's the employee in the supply
shortage steel was really hard to get at
[1:35:19] first and I don't know if it's because
it sat there for so long but there was
[1:35:23] issues with the battery and a couple
hydraulic leaks so they fixed those too
[1:35:28] and you know I've been in touch with
them at least once a month or once every
[1:35:32] couple weeks because we've had to hire
it out that out a couple times two or
[1:35:36] like three times I think four times so
okay the only other thing I have is the
[1:35:42] code enforcement we got stuff on here
going on a year old that just says
[1:35:47] ongoing I mean I don't know I think I've
met the code enforcement person once
[1:35:53] since I've been in office can we ask her
to be at the next meeting or
[1:35:58] him her yeah I don't know how active she
is
[1:36:05] um I'll have to double check uh some of
those items some of that she just keeps
[1:36:10] on because it's a reference to her when
she first identified the issue but a lot
[1:36:15] of those things that are you know like
tall grass or whatever those are
[1:36:18] obsolete right now I asked about I'm
going with the parking ones and the
[1:36:22] blight ones yeah she did clear a few off
when I asked about it before but yeah I
[1:36:27] did I've noticed that too there's a few
lingering ones she has reference ones
[1:36:32] that she's just holding for reference
maybe move it off the enforcement report
[1:36:37] and have a reference report below it
or me see if we can get that cleared up
[1:36:43] and
re-evaluate and uh and since you know
[1:36:47] you're having the joint meeting with the
DDA and PC as well as you know the
[1:36:51] followup action on the our M maybe we
can arrange for her to come for the
[1:36:56] second meeting in April if necessary
yeah very
[1:37:01] good and then can we just make a little
note for the May 17th meeting to since
[1:37:06] it'll be right after water bills are due
to have an update on the Kingsbrook bill
[1:37:11] for that
meeting see not
[1:37:16] sure
good jaie I'm all set thank you uh we're
[1:37:22] Jed thank you everybody
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