1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,080 good afternoon everyone Welcome to our 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,040 regular council meeting for Tuesday 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,000 October 3rd and I'll call this meeting 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,030 to order at 5 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,519 12:32 we'll start off with a territorial 6 00:00:15,519 --> 00:00:16,920 land 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,080 acknowledgement before our meeting gets 8 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:20,760 underway I would like to formally 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,920 recognize the traditional keepers of 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,400 this land and specifically our neighbors 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,679 of the alderville First Nation with a 12 00:00:27,679 --> 00:00:30,759 formal territorial acknowledgement 13 00:00:30,759 --> 00:00:32,719 we respectively acknowledge the township 14 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:37,239 of alen mccalman is located on the mogen 15 00:00:37,239 --> 00:00:39,960 Ashan territory and is the traditional 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,280 territory of the missan Anish 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Inc the township Val mccalman 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,120 respectively acknowledges that the 19 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,920 mississaga nation are the collective 20 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,800 stewards and caretakers of these lands 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,480 and Waters in perpetuity and they 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,960 continue to maintain this responsibility 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,840 to ensure their health and the Integrity 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,640 for generations to come move on to item three moment of 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:28,830 silence for our fallen soldiers and 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:35,550 citizens 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,350 thank you 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,560 everyone just so everybody's aware the 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,000 procedural bylaw identifies how and when 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,240 members of the public may take part in a 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,399 council meeting a regular Council 32 00:01:49,399 --> 00:01:51,119 meetings are open to the public and they 33 00:01:51,119 --> 00:01:53,880 are encouraged to attend to speak at a 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,360 regular meeting a request for delegation 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,280 form must be submitted to the clerk 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,719 these forms are available on our website 37 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:05,759 public meetings are open to the public 38 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:07,439 they allow members of the public to 39 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:09,599 address Council without the need to 40 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:12,800 pre-register their request an example of 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,280 a public meeting is a planning meeting 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,360 where land use planning applications are 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,400 reviewed and Council seeks input from 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,239 the 45 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:23,120 public closed sessions may occur during 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,680 a council meeting to discuss 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,160 confidential matters as identified in 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,560 the municipal act section 239 members of 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:40,390 the public are not permitted in these 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,680 meetings moving on to item four 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,480 disclosure of pecuniary Interest or 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,280 general nature 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,840 thereof Deputy Mayor um mayor logo I 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,800 have a declaration to uh put forward 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,680 today it has to do with both open and 56 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,720 closed meetings the uh closed meeting um 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,720 item would be 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,319 6.1 and the open meeting would be item 59 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:08,760 number 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,360 10.1 the 10.1 would pertain to the 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,599 library board portion of the auditor's 62 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:18,720 report and the reason for the litigation 63 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,400 is litigation with the or sorry the 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,599 reason for the pecuniary interest uh 65 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:28,680 declaration is uh litigation with the 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,319 library board 67 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:33,400 um mayor loal I will pass this to Madam 68 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,480 clerk thank Youk thank you Deputy 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,159 Mayor going to move on to item five 70 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,560 approval of the agenda for Tuesday 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,959 October 3rd 72 00:03:43,959 --> 00:03:47,040 2023 be resolve that the agenda for the 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,760 regular Council session of Tuesday 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,360 October 3rd 2023 be approved to 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,159 circulated can move a 76 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:57,480 seconder oh pardon me and the addendum 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,120 was that a moved by deputy mayor stobber 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,319 second by councelor Booth any questions 79 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:06,640 all in favor motion is 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,280 carried then we're going to move 81 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:17,349 on to item six which is a Clos 82 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:21,280 session and I'll read the read the 83 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:24,240 resolution usually Council meets in uh 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Council goes into a closed session 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,880 towards the end of the meeting at 86 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,800 today's meeting however Council will 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,840 hold its closed session now prior to the 88 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:34,600 items listed on the open agenda for 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,160 those of you here attending in person 90 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,479 and for those of you who may be 91 00:04:39,479 --> 00:04:43,039 attending via the zoom I estimate that 92 00:04:43,039 --> 00:04:44,919 the council will be in the Clos session 93 00:04:44,919 --> 00:04:47,440 for approximately one half hour but it 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,639 may be less I will now read the closed 95 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,960 motion to recess and go into a closed 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,800 session thank 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,160 you be resolved the Council of the 98 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,520 township of Al mccalman will recess to 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,080 go into a closed session under Section 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,919 2392 of the municipal act 2001 to 101 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:11,360 consider uh 2A personal matters about an 102 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,160 identifiable individual including M 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,520 municipal or local board employees and 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,759 2D litigation or potential litigation 105 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:22,560 affecting your municipality or local 106 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,759 board relative to the litigation matter 107 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:28,160 with the library board and further that 108 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,800 the acting Cao the clerk and the de 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Deputy clerk remain in attendance at 110 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,880 12:38 p.m. can I get rber a 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,199 seconder move by councelor answorth 112 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:43,120 seconded by councelor Booth all in favor 113 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:50,430 motions 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,240 carried okay we're back and thank you 115 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:59,639 everyone for um uh sitting through our Clos meeting or not being able to s 116 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:01,080 through our Clos meeting I guess 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,080 probably the right way to pronounce that 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,120 uh motion to rise from a closed session 119 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,960 report be resolve the Council of the 120 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,360 township of alen mullman reconvene to 121 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,280 the Open session of the council meeting 122 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:14,319 at 1:15 pm. and further that the 123 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,120 confidential resolution moved in the 124 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,240 closed session regarding personal 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,080 matters about an indivi identifiable 126 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,080 individual including Municipal Andor 127 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,400 local board employees and litigation or 128 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,039 potential litigation affecting the 129 00:06:28,039 --> 00:06:30,800 municipal or local board board rep 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,039 relative to the litigation matter with 131 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:35,240 the library board are hereby referred to 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,919 this Open session of council for 133 00:06:36,919 --> 00:06:39,120 adoption mover and the 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 seconder mov by councel O'Neal and 135 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,160 seconded by councelor Booth all in favor 136 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,390 motion's 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,599 carried next we 138 00:06:53,599 --> 00:06:56,720 have item 139 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,360 71 uh it's approval of the minutes be it 140 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,960 res olve the special Council session 141 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,560 minutes of May 2nd and June the 12th 142 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,960 2023 be approved ruber 143 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,280 seconder moved by Council O'Neal 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,759 seconded by Council rinworth any 145 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:28,309 discussion all in favor motion is 146 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,120 carried 147 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,280 yep um the next item is item eight 148 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 business arising from the previous 149 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,360 minutes and we have 8-1 capital projects 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,800 report supplemental report to the 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,479 September 19th 152 00:07:43,479 --> 00:07:47,440 2023 regarding capital projects report 153 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,120 and it's suggesting here that a report 154 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,479 from the acting CEO will be included for 155 00:07:51,479 --> 00:07:53,879 council's consideration on a future 156 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:58,309 meeting 157 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:04,670 agenda item 158 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,560 nine okay are there any were there any 159 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,360 other issues from those 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,240 minutes okay seeing done that'll be 161 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,400 recorded next we have a uh 162 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,080 delegation and we have a delegation from 163 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,319 Nancy and John corkran regarding the 164 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:25,639 bird's eye bu game 165 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,240 farm please come 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:43,990 forward 167 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,190 good 168 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:55,590 afternoon 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,560 perfect perfect thank you good afternoon 170 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,320 mayor logal Deputy Mayor Stover and 171 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,560 council members my name is Nancy corkran 172 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:07,880 and I stand before you today as a deeply 173 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,560 concerned member of this community my 174 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,480 husband John and our family have 175 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,399 invested countless years of hard work 176 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,000 and dedication into building owning and 177 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 operating Whispering Springs Wilderness 178 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 retreat in our Township Our Roots here 179 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,200 Run Deep we moved to this area over 40 180 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,160 years ago and we have been actively 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,160 involved in shap the growth and 182 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,240 prosperity of this region throughout our 183 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,000 journey we have contributed to the 184 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,120 fabric of this Township in meaningful 185 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,720 ways we played an integral role in 186 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,880 building and operating St an's country 187 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,680 in before its transformation into a spa 188 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,640 additionally we founded and managed the 189 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,560 CJC bottling plant providing employment 190 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:54,760 to 250 local residents for over 15 years 191 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,760 our commitment to this community is 192 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,880 unwavering and our pride in where we 193 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,800 live has always been 194 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Paramount we find ourselves at a 195 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,079 crossroad where we must turn to our 196 00:10:05,079 --> 00:10:08,240 local leadership for guidance and 197 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,839 advocacy the imminent opening of a game 198 00:10:10,839 --> 00:10:12,839 farm so close to Whispering Springs 199 00:10:12,839 --> 00:10:15,240 Wilderness Retreat is not only a threat 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,800 to our business but also to the 201 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,079 tranquility and safety of our community 202 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:25,350 as a 203 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,079 whole we have invested our hearts our 204 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:30,680 energy and our resources into creating a 205 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:33,200 peaceful Haven at Whispering Springs 206 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,200 it's a place where guests come to escape 207 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,120 the pressures of daily life to 208 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,480 experience Nature's Beauty and to find 209 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,560 soless in the arms of this natural 210 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:44,279 Wonderland the proposed game farm with 211 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:46,360 its Associated hunting activities 212 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,959 jeopardizes this harmony the very 213 00:10:48,959 --> 00:10:50,720 essence of what we have built and 214 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,839 nurtured is now under threat we have 215 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:55,839 constructed a list to illustrate the 216 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,200 total extent of the negative impact that 217 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,959 this will have on our our business and 218 00:10:59,959 --> 00:11:03,120 Community if the 1516 Telephone Road 219 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,480 game farm is granted permission to 220 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,200 operate Birds ey view has not followed 221 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,200 the proper protocol in informing 222 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,680 neighbors and discussing safety concerns 223 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:16,480 the zoning at 156 Telephone Road is 224 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,959 rural and does not permit a recreational 225 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:22,639 game farm the owners of 1516 Telephone 226 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:25,880 Road do not reside at this location and 227 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,200 therefore the detrimental effects of the 228 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,320 game farm do not impact them as it does 229 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,120 the surrounding neighborhood the fencing 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,240 around the property per perimeter is 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,720 either non-existent or severely decayed 232 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,680 this poses a serious threat to the 233 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,279 safety and noise conditions of 234 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,160 Whispering Springs many neighbors will 235 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,120 move out of this area due to the stress 236 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,639 and emotional damage property values 237 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,480 will plummet 75 jobs in the tourism 238 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,360 sector will disappear Camp Moonlight 239 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,160 which is dedicated to families with with 240 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,560 children with disabilities and supported 241 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,000 by Whispering Springs and their vendors 242 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,560 will be shut down Whispering Springs 243 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,720 raises funds for disabled Children's 244 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,399 Therapy benefiting many children These 245 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,959 funds will cease to exist many homes 246 00:12:13,959 --> 00:12:15,399 with small children will be too 247 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:17,000 frightened to let their children play 248 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,920 outside causing physical and emotional 249 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,480 damage two managed forests Bor bordering 250 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,480 1516 Telephone Road will force wildlife 251 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,600 and endangered species to relocate the 252 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,240 potential for dead pheasant carcasses 253 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,720 and Scattered lead shots to contaminate 254 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,079 the water system poses an environmental 255 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:40,560 concern especially given the presence of 256 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,440 an environmentally sensitive water 257 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,320 course on 1516 Telephone Road the 258 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,240 question of responsibility for the 259 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,000 environmental cleanup remains unanswered 260 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,160 the livelihood of many employees who may 261 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,600 lose their jobs is in Jeopardy 262 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,000 responsibility for any harm caused by 263 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,519 stay bullet remains unclear how will the 264 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:03,560 township address the steady stream of 265 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:06,440 calls related to the noise bylaw who 266 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,639 will be accountable for police checks of 267 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:12,600 Pals and the legal transport illegal 268 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,959 transport of firearms or the legal 269 00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:16,519 transport of 270 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,839 firearms what about the damage to the 271 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:21,560 wildlife in the area Birds ey view game 272 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,920 farms constant gunfire will affect 273 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,360 livestock families and businesses up to 274 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,680 4 kilometers away the more John and I 275 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:31,920 review the proximity of our property to 276 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,079 the proposed game farm the more extreme 277 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:36,639 safety hazards we are discovering we 278 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,079 have a large propane tank located a mere 279 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:41,600 16 ft from the proposed Game Farm 280 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,120 property line along with several other 281 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,160 tent accommodations that are equipped 282 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,399 with multiple propane tanks that the 283 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:51,560 potential for a stray bullet to hit one 284 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,880 of these tanks and cause 285 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,480 life-threatening explosion or fire is 286 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,959 very real in addition nearly all of our 287 00:13:59,959 --> 00:14:01,920 accommodation are tents and would not 288 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,920 prevent a stray bullet from piercing the 289 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,720 fabric and potentially injuring or 290 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,079 killing a guest or an employee of our 291 00:14:09,079 --> 00:14:10,839 establishment we are one of the 292 00:14:10,839 --> 00:14:13,360 Township's largest tourist destinations 293 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,759 and employers and are so utterly 294 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:17,600 Disturbed that this level of risk is 295 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,360 even being considered we are not willing 296 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,920 to Expo expose our employees our 297 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,800 children or guests to this level of risk 298 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,720 and will proceed with whatever means 299 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,560 necessary to prevent this from happening 300 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,480 we are here today not just as business 301 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,560 owners but as residents who love our 302 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Township who have raised our family here 303 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,560 and to believe the potential of this 304 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,800 place to flourish while maintaining its 305 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,560 Harmony we are not here to lay blame but 306 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,480 to seek your support to Rally the 307 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,079 strength of our community leadership to 308 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:52,560 stand as a formidable Shield against the 309 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,800 encroaching threat mayor local Deputy 310 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,320 Mayor Stover esteemed council members we 311 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,560 implore you to listen to our voices and 312 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,279 to Champion our cause we ask that you 313 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:04,800 Leverage The Power of our local 314 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,759 leadership to protect the interests of 315 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:09,720 the community you represent we feel that 316 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,800 protections need to be put in place for 317 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,519 the businesses that already exist in the 318 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:16,399 township we would not have built 319 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,560 Whispering Springs let alone invest 320 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,399 every dollar in our name to a business 321 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:23,440 that would be jeopardized so quickly and 322 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,279 without any notice we have invested 323 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:28,360 years of Our Lives following the rules 324 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,759 and slowly painstakingly moving through 325 00:15:30,759 --> 00:15:33,920 the comprehensive regulatory process to 326 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,360 establish a successful tourist 327 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,839 establishment we believe that it is you 328 00:15:38,839 --> 00:15:40,720 and you alone that ultimately have the 329 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 power to protect the hardworking local 330 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 businesses of this Township by modifying 331 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,040 the bylaws to put Protections in place 332 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,399 so that new businesses cannot just come 333 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:53,680 in and Destroy what has been such a 334 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,639 great benefit to our community the 335 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,920 looming opening of Bird's eyee View game 336 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,600 farm is a ticking Time Bomb to potential 337 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,440 disruption danger and distress for our 338 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,759 community we believe in the power of 339 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:10,000 unity and we believe in the strength of 340 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,360 community there is a Supreme Court 341 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,279 ruling in Canada that maintained an 342 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:17,160 injunction preventing a game farm 343 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,720 Hunting Preserve from from operating 344 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,440 close to Residence based on noise 345 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,440 nuisance it included hunting activities 346 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,040 I.E shotgun shots produced by visiting 347 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,639 Hunters that disturb neighbors ability 348 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:34,560 to enjoy their own land we stand here 349 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,680 before you today not just as Nancy and 350 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,519 John corkran but as the vo is echoing 351 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:41,639 the sentiments of countless individuals 352 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:44,240 who share our concerns we urge you to 353 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,199 join us in this fight to reclaim the 354 00:16:46,199 --> 00:16:48,680 sense of security Serenity and promise 355 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,519 that this Township has always offered 356 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:53,240 thank you for your time your attention 357 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,480 and your dedication to our community's 358 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,920 well-being together we can Safeguard the 359 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,920 future we all deserve um my husband John 360 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,680 just wants 361 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,679 to I just wanted to say make no mistake 362 00:17:06,679 --> 00:17:09,520 that this is a business all you have to 363 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,880 do is go to birds ey G for our website 364 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,000 and look at their 365 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,240 literature they talk about 5,000 Birds 366 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,720 that's over $100,000 in prevue we talk 367 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,679 about shling people to and from the hunt 368 00:17:24,679 --> 00:17:27,079 they talk about sales of 369 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:31,480 ammunition talk H guides and guide 370 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,440 BS they talk about the rental of 371 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,520 property through 372 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,600 acquisition I understand they're working 373 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:44,630 on over overnight accommodation for the 374 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,559 hunters as Nancy and I sat here waiting 375 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:50,600 for opportunity to speak out next door 376 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,600 just thinking you know if I wanted to 377 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,120 skirt all the aspects of opening up the 378 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,960 business properly I was the restaurant 379 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,799 what would I do I'd call my chef an 380 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:04,799 independent contractor whose 381 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:09,360 hobby was cooking I call my 382 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:13,320 waitresses staff that works for 383 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,679 donations um I sell my food at the curb 384 00:18:18,679 --> 00:18:21,880 raw try to 385 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,520 circumvent the laws that are in place 386 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,960 to run and establish business that's 387 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,400 exactly that's exactly what bird's eye 388 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,360 is trying to do and I just urge you not 389 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:37,400 to be 390 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Bamboozled by their fancy talk of how 391 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,880 they sell their birds at the 392 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,039 doorstep and the the so-called people 393 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:48,440 that by the birds can do whatever they 394 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,080 want with them I also understand that 395 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,400 during their hunt I have direct contact 396 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,440 with people who have gone there in the 397 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,320 birds cross the the boundary line the 398 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,640 farmers shoot across 399 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,520 the ACR the they say that there's never 400 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,679 been any problems out of the birds I 401 00:19:10,679 --> 00:19:18,000 view one of the guys had one of their dog shot hunting 402 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,480 dogs first 403 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,960 animals Happ want's to say the next time 404 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,159 it's like this going to be a person with 405 00:19:26,159 --> 00:19:31,830 shot please consider 406 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,200 thank you very much for your 407 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,590 presentation thank you I'll read the 408 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,789 resolution 409 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:46,400 yeah before you leave do you mind mind 410 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,549 coming back just in case there's any 411 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:52,640 questions before I do that I've got to 412 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,880 read the resolution whereas the Council 413 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,640 of the township Al McAn heard the 414 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,880 delegation from Nancy and John corkin 415 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,159 residents of Grafton regarding Birds ey 416 00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:05,480 view game farm therefore be resolved 417 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,080 that Council receed their delegation for 418 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,240 information can I get a move in a second 419 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,080 move by Deputy Mayor St seconded by 420 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,960 councelor answorth are there any 421 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,350 questions for Mr and Mrs 422 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:22,520 quarky seeing none thank you very much 423 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,149 for your presentation thank you 424 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:32,510 again 425 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,440 next we have a a 426 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,880 delegation from Terry 427 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,760 miles it's regarding lights on arid 428 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Street the condition of Charlotte and 429 00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:45,440 arid streets and pedest pedestrian 430 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,720 safety on County Road two Mr miles 431 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,679 welcome thank you it's my first time 432 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:53,960 here so this is all you might have if 433 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,120 you don't mind you might have to speak 434 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:57,799 into the mic because there's people is 435 00:20:57,799 --> 00:20:58,960 that 436 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,440 virtually yes it is um yeah I live on 437 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,320 184 a I've been here for five years love 438 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,200 the the town and the 439 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080 neighborhood um I had some concerns as 440 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,600 my neighbor to the north they had their 441 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760 car stolen from the driveway about three 442 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,720 years ago three and a half years ago and 443 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,200 I have we have dogs and we sometimes 444 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,480 have to come home late when I was 445 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,080 working I'm retired now um so I called 446 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,960 the township at that time and asked 447 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,919 about getting some street lights on air 448 00:21:28,919 --> 00:21:31,360 is there's now about 11 or 12 Homes 449 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,360 North of Harden so there's enough homes 450 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,880 I believe to uh make it 451 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,000 uh a concern um I was told to get a hold 452 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,760 of a Troy Gilmore who I believe doesn't 453 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,120 work for 454 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:48,200 the his response to me was not a problem 455 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,279 the the uh the poles are already 456 00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:52,240 pre-wired all we have to do is put them 457 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,880 up and it was kind of left at that I 458 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,679 just expected eventually they would come 459 00:21:56,679 --> 00:21:59,320 up and ha we up are five years later and 460 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,000 then nothing's happened um I did get a 461 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:11,159 hold of Councilman Greg booth at um uh uh Remembrance Day celebration and I 462 00:22:11,159 --> 00:22:14,440 ran it by him and he did call me uh a 463 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,799 few months later but nothing's happened 464 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:20,240 and my concern is I don't want to waste 465 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,080 your time I don't want to waste my time 466 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 if it if if it's something that is just 467 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,559 not feasible or not in the cards or you 468 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:28,559 don't want to do that that's the way it 469 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,360 is I'd just rather be told UPF front 470 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:32,600 that something we're not interested in 471 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,200 and leave it at that um but waiting five 472 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,200 years uh I think you know if you don't 473 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000 come and say something the current 474 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Council may not have known that but uh 475 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,000 and interrupt you just for a second 476 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,080 because I don't you mentioned you don't 477 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,200 want to waste your time and I don't want 478 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,120 to waste your time neither Brian do you 479 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,120 have a comment on this this is Brian 480 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:55,159 McMillan who's our uh our Public Works 481 00:22:55,159 --> 00:22:56,799 manager and I have talked to him and I 482 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:58,720 thank you for the wood that I got 483 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,640 have you got a comment Brian yes uh good 484 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,440 afternoon mayor logo and council members 485 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,360 and delegation for Mr miles um I can 486 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,840 touch on the street lights um the 487 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,240 process uh has begun on the street 488 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,919 lights and the actual uh construction of 489 00:23:14,919 --> 00:23:16,640 the lights going on is supposed to take 490 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,440 place um I believe it's this Friday it's 491 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,919 in my department update sorry um but it 492 00:23:21,919 --> 00:23:23,360 was a process we had to go through with 493 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,480 Hydra one to have the joint use of the 494 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159 polls for our street lights on them they 495 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:31,279 own the polls um long story short G 496 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,799 Metro miles there's three lights going 497 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:36,400 to go up uh from Harden Road right up to 498 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,440 the end of be Street uh every other pole 499 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,960 and the last street light will be on the 500 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,279 last pole so that you should see that 501 00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:45,520 hopefully lit up within the next two 502 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,080 weeks that's great news that's good I 503 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,640 appreciate that and because when you 504 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,360 also when you come in off of ly on aired 505 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:55,760 there that's about a 20 foot uh straight 506 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000 section then a 90° angle turning it 507 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,919 nighttime it's pitch black and it it is 508 00:24:00,919 --> 00:24:06,720 a bit of a concern um I appreciate that I know that that's happening and uh 509 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,200 I'm sure all the neighbors because I 510 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,240 talked to a lot of them will be very 511 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,440 pleased to hear 512 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,440 that it's been in works for a little 513 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,320 while Ryan but correct me if I'm wrong 514 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,279 but it does take a while with jerio fair 515 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:20,960 enough fair enough I understand that but 516 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,320 that's good to see that something is 517 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,520 actually happening okay we're going to 518 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,399 move on to your second concern yes again 519 00:24:26,399 --> 00:24:28,640 I have dogs I walk to dogs all every day 520 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,679 on the streets there um it just seems to 521 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:34,679 be getting worse and worse and in you in 522 00:24:34,679 --> 00:24:37,080 my uh deposition I gave you I I I call 523 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,799 it the town proper um as Aid and is 524 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:43,000 pretty much in the little town of of 525 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,159 Grafton and as a me a resident of the 526 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:49,000 town I feel you want to make sure I know 527 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,960 you guys do some stuff on Highway 2 and 528 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,440 you try and make it look nice but that 529 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,760 street is getting patch over patch over 530 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,840 patch and in some areas I notice at the 531 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,000 uh Grafton in Campbell house when we 532 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,960 have a strong rain half their driveways 533 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,840 down the street on air because just 534 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,440 because they're not paved it it just 535 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,559 flows all the way out there I know 536 00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,080 they've done some repair work in the 537 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 last month or two putting more patches 538 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,640 on um now a isn't as bad as Charlotte 539 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,360 and granted I don't live on Charlotte 540 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,320 but it's really bad like it's just 541 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,279 falling apart and I just think I now 542 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,679 again three years ago I inquired again 543 00:25:26,679 --> 00:25:28,640 uh through the town and I was told we're 544 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720 in the queue about five years so that 545 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 was three years ago I'm I'm hoping that 546 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,039 we're in the queue now maybe for a year 547 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:37,559 in the next year or two that something 548 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,279 will be done is and it will be at ashalt 549 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,360 I know they did some type of other 550 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,159 repairs where they just laid the gravel 551 00:25:45,159 --> 00:25:46,919 down and kind 552 00:25:46,919 --> 00:25:49,559 of put some oil down and let everybody 553 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,320 drive on it but when I moved here I 554 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,520 again I have an old 65 Mustang and uh 555 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,240 geez I I just don't want to drive it on 556 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,240 a 557 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,159 to be 558 00:25:59,159 --> 00:26:02,919 honest I think um to respond to that uh 559 00:26:02,919 --> 00:26:05,120 Brian has I know he's got a roads needs 560 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,799 analysis study being done right now 561 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,480 Brian am I correct and it's going to be 562 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,559 done before the end of the year and that 563 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,760 basically gives Brian uh recommendations 564 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,480 on where we should be spending our 565 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,360 Public Works meeting I know there's only 566 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,240 so much money I get yeah so I I can't 567 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,440 tell you or Brian maybe you can help me 568 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,880 but I don't think we can tell you right 569 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,520 now what what the plan is for the next 570 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,840 couple years yeah it's just too that 571 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,760 with the new subdivision going in north 572 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,080 of me off ly I know traffic is going to 573 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,120 get a lot busier once that moves along 574 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,880 so I'm was hoping that you know that 575 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,159 they get the street fixed before it's 576 00:26:43,159 --> 00:26:46,200 really bad shape I 577 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,720 um just just and again for the look of 578 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,360 the town that you want to make sure 579 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,360 people do come through here that it show 580 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:54,520 shows that we care about our town and we 581 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,799 try to maintain it as best we can agree 582 00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:59,000 Brian do you have a quick comment on 583 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,679 that or no uh just a quick one just I'll 584 00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:04,399 mention it is it is on our uh list you 585 00:27:04,399 --> 00:27:06,440 know currently in a Ros the next five 586 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,200 years and that's going back from our a 587 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,200 few years ago but uh the recommendation 588 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,600 moving forward when it does come it 589 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,399 would be pavement that you would be 590 00:27:15,399 --> 00:27:18,200 recommending it is a an urban street uh 591 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:24,120 similar to what we did over on um um 592 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,600 sorry yeah f r and stuff like that other 593 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,000 ones we're doing we did the North as 594 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,200 well and stuff like that so but again I 595 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,919 think I can't speak as far as timeline 596 00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:33,720 right now the the needs are great in the 597 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,080 township there is other areas in the 598 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,559 township that are in similar dire needs 599 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,640 of uh repaying or resurfacing but it'd 600 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000 be for a future uh Council budget to 601 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,559 talk about it 602 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,120 again fair enough fair enough go ahead 603 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,360 Terry with your third yeah the last 604 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,880 thing was again I walk my dogs every day 605 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,919 I go have to go get the mail and I 606 00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:55,880 noticed you guys had he actually had 607 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,120 somebody scraping lines off 608 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,240 the crosswalk there I know you put some 609 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,120 signs up which is a great idea because 610 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,679 some previously you I gotta tell you 611 00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:05,880 you're taking your life in your hand 612 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,279 sometime trying to cross that road not 613 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,240 most people don't go 50 clicks an hour 614 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,279 along there they just don't but uh and again I'm noticing now with those 615 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,000 signs at least a few people are stopping 616 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,600 but the other day there was myself and 617 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,559 another woman waiting to cross and a 618 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,320 school bus just whipped right through 619 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,640 like it it's uh it is a bit dangerous 620 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,399 there and you just hate have someone get 621 00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:30,320 you know either injured or killed and 622 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,720 then say gez we really got to do 623 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,159 something about this so because there's 624 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:36,640 really no other place to cross other 625 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,159 than if you just you know give a head 626 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:41,279 turn and make a quick dash for it so um 627 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:42,640 again again I appreciate you putting the 628 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,000 signs it would be nice maybe even if 629 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,480 they had to put a cop there I mean if 630 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,039 you give a dozen tickets for running 631 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,640 a a across a pedestrian Crossing it 632 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,360 might wake some people up or even a 633 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,159 flashing yellow light or something just 634 00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:57,840 because people just aren't looking at it 635 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,600 I I'd say right now 636 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,279 about 70% go right through maybe 30% are 637 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:04,880 stopping so and again a lot I know a lot 638 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,159 of the people aren't from around here 639 00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:08,960 they're just passing through but I just 640 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,480 you know I just don't want to see myself 641 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,519 or anybody else get uh picked off or 642 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,240 something you know because people are 643 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,120 start I don't look like I mean the signs 644 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880 are there but I obviously look and I 645 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480 wait until it's clear but yeah just so 646 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,480 you know that that that is a County Road 647 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640 ah and not owned by the municipality is 648 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,200 that Northumberland County's 649 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,200 responsibility however we are working 650 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,399 with North umberland County who have 651 00:29:33,399 --> 00:29:35,720 made some of those improvements but they 652 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,559 really are planning on doing a proper 653 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,360 study to count how many cars are going 654 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,679 by every hour and how many people walk 655 00:29:42,679 --> 00:29:45,799 across every hour because they have uh 656 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:47,519 they showed me the and I can't quote 657 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:48,720 them or nothing like that but they did 658 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,080 show me the the different uh diagrams 659 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,720 and everything else that show how many 660 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840 cars and Crow and if you can make the 661 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080 combination the calculations says that 662 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,919 you should have this type of uh Crossing 663 00:30:00,919 --> 00:30:03,320 versus you know a much different one 664 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,960 fair enough I had to do an assessment I 665 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,240 get yeah which is so so I can tell you 666 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,679 they are working on it and um Dave and I 667 00:30:10,679 --> 00:30:12,640 were over there yes over there yesterday 668 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,880 cross the road and we got lucky we were 669 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,600 one of the we one of the 70 no the 30% 670 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640 that stopped that St stopped for but I I 671 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,640 do agree it's it's an issue and uh we 672 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,720 need to uh you know put on better design 673 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,799 I think better um pathway or on the road 674 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:36,279 as well as um perhaps uh a few officers 675 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:38,799 in the area to remind people of that 676 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,600 yeah I also give you Kudos on building 677 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,919 that uh ashalt walkway around the arena 678 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:45,880 that's a everybody a lot of people use 679 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,399 that it's great for walking the dogs 680 00:30:47,399 --> 00:30:50,440 it's a safe area it's you can now access 681 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360 the walking trails without going through 682 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,720 four inches of water if it rains so yeah 683 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,399 that was a good thing I'm happy with 684 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:00,320 that that that works so well I miss you must go after I go first thing in 685 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760 the morning on that pathway yeah yeah 686 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760 I'm I I go at different times I'm up at 687 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,159 5:30 so oh well maybe we maybe we have 688 00:31:07,159 --> 00:31:09,720 bumped into one we might we might 689 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,440 anyways thank you very much that you've 690 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,200 addressed uh what I wanted to know I 691 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,919 hopefully by the winter time we'll see 692 00:31:14,919 --> 00:31:17,039 some lights up on air that would be nice 693 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,919 uh and the street will'll just I guess 694 00:31:18,919 --> 00:31:21,440 play that by year and see how it uh well 695 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,080 ask us you know come back and ask us six 696 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,720 months from now because we get the the 697 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080 report it may say that two years three 698 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,679 years and we'll have an answer for you 699 00:31:30,679 --> 00:31:32,600 perfect I appreciate that all right 700 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,639 thank you very much um I'll just read 701 00:31:34,639 --> 00:31:36,880 the resolution whereas the Council of 702 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,519 the township Val McMan heard the 703 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,159 delegation from Terry miles a resident 704 00:31:41,159 --> 00:31:42,960 of Grafton regarding the lack of street 705 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,480 lights on a street north of Harden drive 706 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,200 and the rad conditions on Charlotte 707 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,039 Street and Ara Street and The Pedestrian safety concerns related to 708 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,720 County Road 2 in front of the Grafton 709 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Inn therefore we resol the council 710 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,720 received this for 711 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,519 information moved by councelor Boo 712 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,039 seconded by Deputy Mayor stobber all in 713 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,600 favor motions carried Terry thank you 714 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,480 very much for expressing your thank you 715 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:26,070 very much for listening more than 716 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,720 welcome 717 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,720 next we're going to have our Auto report 718 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,679 and 719 00:32:30,679 --> 00:32:33,880 presentation and um I'm not sure if 720 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,559 Nicole wants to introduce Richard or not 721 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,000 but uh 722 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,799 Richard 723 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:45,310 Singa long time no 724 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:56,029 talking welcome to El 725 00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:02,950 m 726 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,639 yes so I'm uh I am not Dwayne Potter I'm 727 00:33:05,639 --> 00:33:08,840 Richard staga from Baker kly so I just 728 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:14,840 um and I I'll be here presenting um the audit results and the financial 729 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,039 results for uh the municipality for the 730 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:18,240 year end of 731 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,720 2022 um now I do not do know that uh 732 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,039 within your agenda there are a number of 733 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,760 documents associated with this but I was 734 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,720 just going to run through the PowerPoint 735 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,039 presentation um just so you're aware um 736 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:34,799 you are required on you met everybody 737 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:39,720 Richard over the over the years I've met before I would say 60% of the 738 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,919 council okay yes then you haven't met 739 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,399 probably Mary catherin would be my guest 740 00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:46,720 good afternoon yes and Council rinworth 741 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,230 good afternoon 742 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,159 meet so yes um under the municipal act 743 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,360 you have to follow the public sector 744 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,639 accounting guidel lines are more 745 00:33:57,639 --> 00:34:00,440 commonly known as PAB so they are um 746 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,360 fairly involved and um quite unique set 747 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,840 of financial statements even for 748 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,639 accountants sometimes so uh um please 749 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,440 feel free to ask any questions and of 750 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,079 course they are presented in a different 751 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,240 format than how you actually set your 752 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,000 tax rate budget so I'll try to highlight 753 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,159 those differences too as we go through 754 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,720 so so then uh first off um within the 755 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:27,240 draft audited financial statements um on 756 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:29,560 the following page you'll see the the uh 757 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,560 onepage excert of the um auditor report 758 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,720 so the auditor's report is our report on 759 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:36,879 the financial 760 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:40,720 statements and it is a two-page document 761 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,839 but the second paragraph uh on page one 762 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,919 is what we consider to be the important 763 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:48,000 paragraph that that in our opinion the 764 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,760 companying Consolidated financial 765 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,240 statements present fairly in all 766 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:53,879 material respects the financial position 767 00:34:53,879 --> 00:34:56,240 of the township of Al cman at December 768 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:58,480 31st 2022 and the results of its 769 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,560 operations and cash flows for the year 770 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,760 then ended in accordance with Canadian 771 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,359 public sector Accounting Standards or 772 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:08,359 more commonly known known as PAB as I 773 00:35:08,359 --> 00:35:10,000 mentioned earlier so that is your 774 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960 standard clean unqualified Auditors 775 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,359 report um as well too please note you'll 776 00:35:16,359 --> 00:35:18,640 see I think the the sixth or seventh 777 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880 word there is the word Consolidated so 778 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,960 the numbers we look at include both the 779 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,920 operations of the township itself as 780 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,150 well as the library board so 781 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,520 that's just a summary of the auditor uh 782 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,000 Auditor's report um next uh we come 783 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,240 along to uh just give you an idea of 784 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,880 some of the udit procedures that we do 785 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,920 complete um while we're here um looking 786 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,760 at your books and of course the main 787 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,240 thing is to gather the evidence to 788 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,839 provide our audit opinion on on your 789 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:52,119 financial results so that we do that by 790 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:54,319 looking at your Council minutes um and 791 00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:57,359 of course a lot of testing as well of um 792 00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:59,880 Source documentations and that in 793 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,200 involves um as I said looking at the 794 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,359 documents comparing um things uh for 795 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:07,560 analytical review either to budget or 796 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960 the prior year and and as well too um we 797 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,440 audit a lot of other municipalities so 798 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,480 um with our knowledge there that uh 799 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,920 knowing the trends and the type of 800 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,599 things that are going on in the 801 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:20,599 municipal environment U we do somewhat 802 00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:22,119 know what to expect in most 803 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,280 circumstances and as well to to looking 804 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,000 at the estimates that that are made by 805 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,359 management 806 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,319 and as well to most of your manage most 807 00:36:29,319 --> 00:36:31,720 of your estimates here would relate to 808 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,319 um the life of your tangible Capital 809 00:36:33,319 --> 00:36:34,920 assets and things such as that 810 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,440 determining your um amortization and we 811 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,319 do that by by looking at your various 812 00:36:40,319 --> 00:36:43,079 systems and related internal controls um 813 00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:45,000 for both the the inflows being your 814 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839 revenues your outflows being um your 815 00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:49,480 dispersements and your payroll and then 816 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,480 how you adjust things being your Journal 817 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,400 entrance we do that through a 818 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,359 combination of both um actual testing 819 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:59,520 and then using data analytics as well so 820 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,040 that um we run your data through um 821 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,119 various 822 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,359 um analytic procedure so that we we then 823 00:37:08,359 --> 00:37:10,319 focus our tests on things that might 824 00:37:10,319 --> 00:37:13,839 look unique or or odd or or or of course 825 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:16,319 significant dollar value as well so 826 00:37:16,319 --> 00:37:18,160 overall the audit is complete pending 827 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,720 Council approval of the financial 828 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,160 statements receed of sign representation 829 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,280 letter as well as receip of uh legal 830 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,200 letters um overall there were no 831 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,359 signific 832 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:29,000 get difficulties encountered during the 833 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680 course of our audit and no changes to 834 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,079 our plan or disagreements uh with 835 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:35,720 management and excellent cooperation 836 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,440 from your staff and management um 837 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,200 overall um there was one uncorrected 838 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,560 item so as Auditors we do keep a little 839 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,520 scorecard of of any differences we might 840 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,240 find that haven't been adjusted um and 841 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,240 then of course we compare that to 842 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,160 something that we calculate in the audit 843 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,359 industry being materiality based and 844 00:37:56,359 --> 00:38:00,040 that's purely based on um a percentage 845 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,440 of in for most municipalities of their 846 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,280 normal recurring Revenue so then when we 847 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680 calculate that number um and compare 848 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,119 that to the items that weren't adjusted 849 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,280 um we need then we determine whether 850 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,160 well we can't issue a clean auditor 851 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,880 report because the item's too large but 852 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,480 in your case the amount is is fairly 853 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,680 small but it's above our threshold to 854 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,240 report and it just relates to the 855 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,040 interest on your debentures that um you 856 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200 have two um debers now one for the fire 857 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480 hall and the new one for the public 858 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,440 works Edition and of course you only pay 859 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,640 them twice a year so the the interest 860 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,440 that was that was acre from the last 861 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,160 payment date to the end of December 862 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,079 hasn't been recorded so um and as well 863 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:47,359 when you look at the schedule I think 864 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,319 this year the number was around 23,000 865 00:38:49,319 --> 00:38:52,440 last year's number was around 18,000 so 866 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,880 the net numbers around 4,000 it's just 867 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,560 the fact you're not you're not missing 868 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,400 anything it's just the number should be 869 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,400 on this side of December 31st or that 870 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,280 side of December 31st but it it's being 871 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,440 presented the way you budget it so so as 872 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,640 a result then we we have no no issues 873 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,240 with it but we are just obligated to 874 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,910 make you aware of 875 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,520 that and then next coming along uh to 876 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,839 actual some some numbers um So within 877 00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:24,400 PAB you are um required to report your 878 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,440 assets being either Financial Financial 879 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,839 assets and non-financial assets so 880 00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:32,640 Financial assets are items that are cash 881 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,680 or can be turned into Cash ideally 882 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,240 um and then your non-financial assets 883 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,440 would be your tangible Capital assets 884 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000 like your your roads and your buildings 885 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,720 and and those type of things that that 886 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,079 you don't normally turn around and and 887 00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,000 convert to cash because you don't sell 888 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,400 them um ideally if you if you could 889 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,839 sell I'm I'm sure you wouldn't mind 890 00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:00,400 doing that yeah but yeah so I mean 891 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,319 that's that's the main difference there 892 00:40:02,319 --> 00:40:04,839 so um so overall your your cash remains 893 00:40:04,839 --> 00:40:07,640 fairly consistent with the prior year um 894 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,200 you did complete a lot during the year 895 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,200 but uh in the end it all remained fairly consistent and that's um the 896 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,880 components of that is that you have 897 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,280 about $5.5 million in reserves and about 898 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,880 $2.3 million in um deferred revenue 899 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,359 obligatory Reserve funds so that so that 900 00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:27,920 means you have all of your reserves in 901 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,520 cash as well as most of your um 902 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,280 obligatory Reserve funds so that's why 903 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,000 your your cash balance is where it's at 904 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,119 um you have the small investment um 905 00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,599 continuing to carry forward um your 906 00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:42,359 account's receivable um you can see 907 00:40:42,359 --> 00:40:44,160 there is up a fair bit from the prior 908 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,280 year and majority of that is all related 909 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,280 to the uh HST rebate rebate that you're 910 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,079 entitled to get and which of course um 911 00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:55,200 then they get filed after the year end 912 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,880 and of course with the large addition uh 913 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,520 put on the Public Works building you had 914 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200 a lot more expenditures that would 915 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,319 attract HST which means your rebate 916 00:41:03,319 --> 00:41:04,440 would be 917 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,440 higher that's the main change there um 918 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,440 your taxes receivable you can see there 919 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,880 that um in 2021 that they were they were 920 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,480 the um fairly low the lowest point in 921 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,319 the last five years whereas they did 922 00:41:19,319 --> 00:41:22,599 increase um in 2022 but still overall 923 00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,760 when you include penalty and 924 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,520 interest the 20 22 amount is 925 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,119 8.37% of the total Levy um so that's 926 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:34,880 still considered to be within the 927 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,800 lowrisk range set by the ministry so no 928 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,280 issues there so um the one thing to keep 929 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,760 in mind too though you pay the county 930 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000 and the school boards every quarter 931 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920 regardless of whether you've collected 932 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,960 the money from the rate payer so um you 933 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160 are the banker in this situation so um 934 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,359 it's it's always good to keep an eye on 935 00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:57,119 that so that the number is get not 936 00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:58,599 getting too high but as I said you're 937 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,680 still in the lowrisk range 938 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,760 there then the following slide just 939 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,880 gives you a a bar chart of where that is 940 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,520 at and then um next 941 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,079 uh slide just uh shows who you owe money 942 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:20,079 to um so under under PAB um There's no 943 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,079 distinction between current and longterm 944 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,559 it's just these are the amounts you owe 945 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,119 to others first off is your accounts 946 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,960 payable and acred liabilities um with 947 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,720 some construction going on 948 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:37,000 um at the and AC acrs for that um your 949 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,240 accounts payable did increase your trade 950 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,359 payables went up at the end of the year 951 00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:43,720 but also within their your deposits you 952 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,359 have from developers or in there um 953 00:42:46,359 --> 00:42:51,240 items uh such as regular acrs for both 954 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:56,440 um um salaries and uh related items as 955 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,660 well too um there's about 956 00:42:58,660 --> 00:42:59,839 [Music] 957 00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:02,680 $229,000 from R payers who have credit 958 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,720 balances on their accounts so for 959 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,319 financial statement purposes they get 960 00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:09,040 moved out of your reducing your taxes 961 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,720 receivable in into 962 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,079 payables um so therefore th those are 963 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:15,920 the uh major components 964 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,480 there um next we have uh something 965 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,480 unique for um most accounting is your 966 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,240 deferred revenue obligatory Reserve 967 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:26,520 funds which represents um about one .9 968 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,280 million in development charges um the 969 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,200 federal gas tax are Canada community 970 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,880 building fund as it's known now for 971 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440 about 300,000 and Parkland fees are 972 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,599 about $60,000 973 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,240 so this is different um in the fact that 974 00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:43,319 you've collected these monies and these 975 00:43:43,319 --> 00:43:45,000 monies are are sitting in your bank 976 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,240 account it's just that they don't become 977 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,599 Revenue until you use them in accordance 978 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:52,800 with the requirements that that are 979 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,760 placed on those monies so you so like 980 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,920 this year you collected in the and in 981 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,160 the past you collected development 982 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,640 charges but you Ed 300,000 of that for 983 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,520 the new Public Works facility and so 984 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,079 therefore the that that balance remained 985 00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:13,280 fairly consistent year toe um you didn't 986 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,160 use as much uh gas STX as you received 987 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,160 so the balance went up slightly so the 988 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,079 so these are items when you take a look 989 00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:25,160 at the reserves of about 5.5 million um 990 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,240 that that number there the 2.3 almost 991 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,079 gives you what you have in your bank 992 00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,839 accounts so that's why that's why you 993 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:33,400 get to that balance um your other 994 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520 deferred revenue majority of that is 995 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,880 related to uh some grants that you've 996 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,240 received but um haven't fully spent 997 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,559 yet and then the one big noticeable 998 00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:45,599 change here of course is your increasing 999 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,119 your long-term debt as you borrowed the 1000 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,920 $3 million for the public works addition 1001 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,960 but still then paying off your previous 1002 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,599 debenture I believe for the library and 1003 00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,720 another Public Works library was paid 1004 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:01,400 for I believe I think this is the fire 1005 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,280 sorry yes but there one there was one 1006 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,040 paid off the original one that was split 1007 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,720 yeah there was a roads one and the 1008 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,319 library was paid off about 2020 or 21 it 1009 00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:15,520 actually finished in 2022 yeah okay yeah so yeah so that's uh so those so 1010 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,000 right now all you have left is the $3 1011 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,720 million for the new Public Works 1012 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:23,760 facility and the balances for the fire 1013 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,480 hall and then of course uh you see there 1014 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,400 that um the fiveyear graph of that and 1015 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,800 you can see there with the additions for 1016 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,640 both the fire hall debt and and the 1017 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,200 Public Works debt um the yellow bar has 1018 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,760 been increasing but of course as your 1019 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,200 assets age um they are expensive to 1020 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,599 replace but you are uh you are required 1021 00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:49,440 to do that so um then the following page 1022 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,920 is just showing your breakdown of uh 1023 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,440 what your net Financial assets are 1024 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,599 um and you can see there that uh there's 1025 00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,200 a little less than about a $3 million 1026 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,559 change there and that's all entirely 1027 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:03,960 related to the uh $3 million in 1028 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,160 additional debt but then as well too 1029 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,520 when you look at your non-financial 1030 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,000 assets under your tangible Capital 1031 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,040 assets of course you got about a $3 1032 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,720 million increase there so basically it's 1033 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,079 flipped from um from above above the 1034 00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:18,839 line in net Financial assets down to 1035 00:46:18,839 --> 00:46:20,440 tangible Capital assets and then you 1036 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,800 still have some prepaid expenses and 1037 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440 some inventories of sand and salt that 1038 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400 uh you will utilize moving 1039 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,599 forward then the following slide gives 1040 00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:32,720 you a bit of 1041 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,640 a a walk through and Reconciliation as 1042 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,520 to the um revenues and expenses and the 1043 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,720 annual PAB Surplus and deficit um in 1044 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,319 comparison to uh and reconciles that 1045 00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:45,760 back to zero as that's how you're 1046 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,359 supposed to budget for your tax rate 1047 00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,280 budget so as you can see there in the 1048 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,119 First Column under budget um PAB was 1049 00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:53,640 showing that you were going to have a of 1050 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,319 a loss of 129,000 but then when you um 1051 00:46:57,319 --> 00:47:00,520 take account for the items that um are 1052 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,359 adjustments for PAB related things you 1053 00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:05,319 can see there that they 1054 00:47:05,319 --> 00:47:07,880 do that first column does come back to 1055 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,400 zero of course majority of that is uh 1056 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,040 the treatment of tangible Capital assets 1057 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,800 and the use of reserve and Reserve funds 1058 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,119 and long-term debt as 1059 00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:20,559 well then you can see there on the the 1060 00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:25,280 actual side for 2022 um you did have a a 1061 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,319 piece of 1062 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:30,319 Surplus and um a lot of that do um but 1063 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:32,920 then on the reconciliation part you can 1064 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,839 see there that it does come back to zero 1065 00:47:34,839 --> 00:47:38,160 as you did transfer um uh any surplus 1066 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,440 amounts you had remaining over into 1067 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,559 Reserves at the end of the year and you 1068 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:45,680 can see there the one spot you you will 1069 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,839 just see this uh on on this presentation 1070 00:47:48,839 --> 00:47:50,480 it's the purchase of tangible Capital 1071 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,800 assets you can see there this year was 1072 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:59,670 $5.2 Million about 900,000 below budget 1073 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,960 there um both your uh accumulated 1074 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,000 Surplus and your tangible Capital assets 1075 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000 and uh one thing I'd like to point out 1076 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,720 here is that um your goal here is to 1077 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,920 have your orange bar to be higher than 1078 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,000 your blue bar which means you do have 1079 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,640 more Equity than what you have tied up 1080 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,599 in your Capital so you can see there 1081 00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:21,520 with uh 1082 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,920 um got a little closer there because of 1083 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,079 course you added a large um 1084 00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:28,960 amount to your tangible Capital assets 1085 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,119 this 1086 00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,559 year next we come to your revenue and 1087 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,680 expenses and annual Surplus on a PAB 1088 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,079 basis for the last five years and uh 1089 00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:40,119 that gray bar being your annual Surplus 1090 00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:44,760 or deficit um you can see there um as 1091 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,119 your designed that doesn't vary that 1092 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,520 much but uh it it will depending on the 1093 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,520 capital addition so that don't be 1094 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,079 surprised some years the the bar will be 1095 00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,160 below the line being a deficit and then 1096 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,559 above above the line when you do have a 1097 00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,400 lot of uh Capital grants for tangible 1098 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,400 Capital additions so that 1099 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,920 um and that's that's just the way P of 1100 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,440 works because it um you recognize the 1101 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,960 revenue when you get it but you don't 1102 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,160 incur the expense until you depreciate 1103 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,319 that asset so it could be 40 years 40 1104 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:21,119 years later that uh it all comes back to 1105 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:22,799 be being equal again depending on how 1106 00:49:22,799 --> 00:49:24,559 long you're depreciating the asset for 1107 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:27,240 us 1108 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,079 um next we take a look at your revenues 1109 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,280 on a PAB basis and you can see there 1110 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,880 um being uh being over budget um and 1111 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,319 there were a few items to note there 1112 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:44,119 um your user charges uh just to point 1113 00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,119 out so that that includes things such as 1114 00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:52,440 your building your building permits your Arena fees your the the water fees 1115 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,079 that you charge to your residents as 1116 00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,400 well so all of those items are within 1117 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,160 there um and and as well too both fire 1118 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,680 calls um are in there as well so that 1119 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,079 number was a fair bit higher than budget 1120 00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:07,599 so that's causing um part of the 1121 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,839 variance from budget to actual so and as 1122 00:50:10,839 --> 00:50:13,040 well to building permits was another 1123 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,119 large component of that um under 1124 00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:17,839 government transfers uh within your 1125 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,799 provincial revenues um were about $1.3 1126 00:50:20,799 --> 00:50:24,680 million ompf is about 530,000 of that 1127 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,440 and 6 25,000 for uh ocif and that was 1128 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,960 for both roads reconstruction and Roads 1129 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,640 resurfacing so that's 1130 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,640 um the larger components there and you 1131 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,280 did uh um get an isit grant for uh 1132 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,400 funding um for uh for um Recreation and 1133 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,599 Trails um and that's included in there 1134 00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:53,920 as well um and I think the one thing uh 1135 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,400 there the Canada community building fund 1136 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,319 so that was also utilized as I said 1137 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:05,040 earlier your gas STX for um for roads work as well and then your other 1138 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,640 Revenue this year um you can see there 1139 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,480 it's a fair bit higher included within 1140 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,640 that is your uh interest in uh earned on 1141 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,480 your on your amounts um with the higher 1142 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,760 interest rates um you did better there 1143 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,559 as well too you recognized um some 1144 00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:19,760 monies that you received from Township 1145 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,799 Hamilton related to the animal shelter 1146 00:51:21,799 --> 00:51:24,359 and and the and the windup of that 1147 00:51:24,359 --> 00:51:26,760 organization so that those are some of 1148 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,640 the larger components within that line 1149 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,760 item then on the following slide you 1150 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,440 will see the uh the pie chart of that of 1151 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,119 course you like most most area 1152 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,640 municipalities uh um property taxation 1153 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,240 is your main source of funding the 1154 00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:45,720 following slide then just gives you uh 1155 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,240 an idea of your expenses um on a PAB 1156 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,359 basis and you can see there um your um 1157 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:54,400 overall your expenses were were higher 1158 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,079 um than budget um there were a number of 1159 00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,720 things uh within the protection services 1160 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,720 area related to fire both uh and as well 1161 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,280 too within Transportation related to the 1162 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,040 additional cost for fuel for vehicles so 1163 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,559 um let's had a major impact uh in a lot 1164 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,960 of municipalities um and as well too 1165 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,079 when you look at Protection Services it 1166 00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:19,960 does include fire policing conservation 1167 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,440 authorities um building and um 1168 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,119 protective inspection and control 1169 00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:29,760 um Environmental Services um that that 1170 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,000 relates entirely to the to the water 1171 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,000 system Health Services uh relates to the 1172 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,720 operations of the 1173 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,640 cemeteries um Recreation and culture um 1174 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,400 there was some variance there for both 1175 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,839 uh additional costs related um for both 1176 00:52:46,839 --> 00:52:49,079 parks and recreational facilities um 1177 00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:52,280 with um further opening of 1178 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,319 U of uh or the lessening of restrictions 1179 00:52:55,319 --> 00:52:57,359 as well there's more activity within at 1180 00:52:57,359 --> 00:52:59,760 the arena and as well to Planning and 1181 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,319 Development was under budget as most 1182 00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:05,880 items were just lower than budget then 1183 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,640 the following slide you can see there 1184 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,680 the um transportation services is the 1185 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,000 largest 1186 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,960 component for the 1187 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,920 municipality and then when you take a 1188 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,839 look at the following slide it just 1189 00:53:18,839 --> 00:53:21,119 provides the same numbers just in a 1190 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:22,520 different 1191 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,160 breakdown 1192 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,520 um and you'll see there too that 1193 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,880 um when you look at contracted Services 1194 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,400 um little over a million dollars of that 1195 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,760 is related to 1196 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,359 policing um and and within external 1197 00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:41,640 transfers majority of that is related to 1198 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,400 um monies you pay over to the 1199 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,680 conservation Authority and then as well 1200 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,480 too with amortization um there were a 1201 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,280 number of Roads um that were fully 1202 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,040 amortized um so therefore the 1203 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,839 amortization in the prior year so 1204 00:53:54,839 --> 00:53:57,920 therefore your amortization was down but 1205 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,119 I suspect in next year it will start to 1206 00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:01,799 increase with the amortization of the 1207 00:54:01,799 --> 00:54:03,520 new Public Works 1208 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,680 Edition then you can see there this 1209 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640 segmented um information provided in the 1210 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,880 pie chart um next we come along to uh 1211 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,920 your accumulated Surplus so this um 1212 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,040 gives you an idea as to um of your 1213 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,319 accumulated Surplus the $24 million what 1214 00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:21,839 the major components are there and you 1215 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:24,280 can see there that um when you take your 1216 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,359 Netbook value have your tangible Capital 1217 00:54:26,359 --> 00:54:28,799 assets take away the debt associated 1218 00:54:28,799 --> 00:54:30,960 with them you can see there that um at 1219 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,040 about $18.6 1220 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,599 million of that is uh entirely tied up 1221 00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:38,799 in your tangible Capital assets so that 1222 00:54:38,799 --> 00:54:41,720 leaves the balance to be being reserves 1223 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:44,160 as well a small Surplus for the library 1224 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,079 so it's nice to see there they mooved 1225 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,359 from small deficit in the prior year to 1226 00:54:48,359 --> 00:54:51,720 a small Surplus position again in 1227 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:53,960 2022 and then as well too you'll see 1228 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,520 there the um utilization of both the 1229 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,760 fire of the fire reserve so that that 1230 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,559 amount has went down for the acquisition 1231 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,000 of um vehicle and equipment and then um 1232 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,680 your other major components within there 1233 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,480 are about $1.4 million for roads and 1234 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,799 about uh $42,000 related to Recreation 1235 00:55:13,799 --> 00:55:14,960 so 1236 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,319 that's when I said earlier you had about 1237 00:55:17,319 --> 00:55:21,200 $7 million in cash the $5.5 million in 1238 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,720 reserve so there's the components there 1239 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:28,280 plus the 2.3 million in your um 1240 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,599 obligatory Reserve funds so that's um 1241 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:34,000 just explains as to where where most of 1242 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,359 your cash resides and where it came from 1243 00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:37,839 and then as well the following slide 1244 00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:40,119 just gives you an idea of your reserves 1245 00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:43,280 over the last five 1246 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,200 years and then the following following 1247 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,599 slide just gives you an idea as the uh 1248 00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:50,559 as to your tangible Capital assets and 1249 00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:52,760 with the public works addition that's 1250 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,640 the increase there in building the 1251 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,880 vehicles relate additions relate to fire 1252 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,640 majority of the machiner and Equipment 1253 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,760 relates to fire for the self uh Brea 1254 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,839 self-contained breathing apparatus and 1255 00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,799 then as well Parks and 1256 00:56:09,799 --> 00:56:13,079 Recreation um sorry roads and Roads and 1257 00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:16,200 Roads reconstruction are uh um what was 1258 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,200 done for the roads and bridges and then 1259 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,240 uh as well to land improvements relates 1260 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:26,079 to uh work done the at the Ballpark 1261 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:28,359 and then you can see your additions and 1262 00:56:28,359 --> 00:56:30,760 amortizations over the last five years 1263 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,520 and uh the large increases in 18 and 1264 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,319 2022 for the big 1265 00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:38,680 projects then you can see here with the 1266 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,000 average useful life and and as well with 1267 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,400 the addition of the uh both the fire 1268 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,640 hall and the uh addition to the public 1269 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,720 works you you have a fair bit of green 1270 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:50,880 within the building so um of course the 1271 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,200 newer costs will create um more net Book 1272 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,200 value so that's that's why they're like 1273 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,200 that and then you can see there your 1274 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,960 five-year trend on your net Financial 1275 00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,440 assets as I mentioned earlier that uh 1276 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,520 you move with the addition of the $3 1277 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,319 million in your debt for uh Public Works 1278 00:57:07,319 --> 00:57:09,000 addition then it it brought your net 1279 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,680 Financial assets down by almost that 1280 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,440 amount so but you're but you still 1281 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,079 remain in the black 1282 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,559 there this a summary where things ended 1283 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:21,000 up at the end of The 1284 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,520 Years thank you any questions for the 1285 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,559 previous 1286 00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,520 go ahead deputy mayor uh to your M loo 1287 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,640 um I I wanted to uh let you know it 1288 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,640 wasn't to do with this but 1289 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,240 um I found it quite interesting um the 1290 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,599 uncorrected Miss statements yeah and uh 1291 00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:47,920 thank you to Nicole she was able to 1292 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,200 explain it because it didn't make sense 1293 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,839 to me and I wanted to know where this 1294 00:57:52,839 --> 00:57:57,480 money was hanging out anyway uh all is 1295 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,720 well and uh one of the things is when uh 1296 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,200 if I may M logal as well uh when you are 1297 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,079 doing your 1298 00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:13,039 audit um you have a a level threshold 1299 00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:17,280 and a threshold yeah and if it's under 1300 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,640 the 1301 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,839 threshold um how would you explain that 1302 00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:23,720 better than what I 1303 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,039 would all right so when we set 1304 00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:32,920 materiality it gives us a guide and it provides us an idea as to how much um 1305 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,200 the extent of uh testing that we have to 1306 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,440 do when we work through um through it on 1307 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,240 a statistical sample 1308 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,720 basis um and then as well too it gives 1309 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,599 us a guide when when we compare 1310 00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:47,200 differences um at the end and that that 1311 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,039 one being one of them so um and 1312 00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:52,319 therefore as I said if it was larger 1313 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:53,839 than a certain amount then we would ask 1314 00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,440 you to make an adjust 1315 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,680 but it was below that so we did we don't 1316 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,319 need an adjustment to be made but um 1317 00:59:01,319 --> 00:59:02,760 keep it doesn't mean though that we 1318 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,680 don't look at anything below that value 1319 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,480 yes so therefore um and and really for 1320 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,039 us to bring put things on the schedule 1321 00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:14,920 it's uh normally about 5% of materiality 1322 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,200 that that would go on there so it's a 1323 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,319 pretty low threshold so therefore um 1324 00:59:19,319 --> 00:59:22,960 it's just a a way for us to to tabulate 1325 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,720 those things that we're just not making 1326 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,000 a lot of small adjustments that aren't 1327 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,829 always needed yes yeah thank 1328 00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:35,440 you go ahead Richard you got some more 1329 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,000 coming no I just wanted to I thought I seen there now for the future 1330 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,839 or 1331 00:59:40,839 --> 00:59:42,720 something I thought you were gonna tell 1332 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,960 us what's coming we're just financial 1333 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,480 statement Auditors we' like to work in 1334 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,750 the 1335 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,079 past um but no I would just thank your 1336 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,240 staff for all the work um they put into 1337 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,480 it and getting things to to where they 1338 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,480 are now so there's a lot of work to to 1339 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,559 get to be prepared and get done for the 1340 01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:04,119 financial statements so um wish to thank 1341 01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:06,640 him for that and then wish everyone good 1342 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,799 luck in in this year and the years to 1343 01:00:09,799 --> 01:00:12,440 come well I I'd just like to make go 1344 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,200 ahead Mike you com yeah I did have just 1345 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,079 uh so through May logo I where do we 1346 01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,680 capture back 1347 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,000 taxes in our finances report so that the 1348 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,000 on the um Financial assets there's a 1349 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,440 line called taxes receivable so that includes all the taxes that 1350 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,680 everyone owes 1351 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,720 you so I think if you go back about $1.2 1352 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,839 million wasn't it something like that on 1353 01:00:40,839 --> 01:00:44,599 slide page five of the 1354 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,160 slides 1355 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,799 um it's it's the single line and and as 1356 01:00:49,799 --> 01:00:51,440 I mentioned earlier that it's a one 1357 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,640 point almost $1.3 million at the end of 1358 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,119 the year and and that's everybody's 1359 01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:59,599 share so if somebody doesn't pay you you 1360 01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:01,280 still pay the county and school their's 1361 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,680 amount their amounts so it's about $1.3 1362 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,000 million at the end of 1363 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,000 2022 okay yes yeah and well I never 1364 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,039 thought of that before but of that $1.3 1365 01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:15,880 million we're only going to get about 1366 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:22,680 40% of it and and between the county and the uh and the education they're 1367 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,160 getting 60% but we're paying the 1368 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,760 interest done that 60% yeah you're forgoing that yeah for going okay 1369 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,039 yeah good point do you have another one 1370 01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:33,799 M yeah actually uh Deputy Mayor stobber 1371 01:01:33,799 --> 01:01:35,119 brought it up but she got an answer for 1372 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:42,319 it it was one of my questions is what if you could just explain that that um 1373 01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:46,000 uncorrected misstatement yeah so so that 1374 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,960 in in your case that's all related to 1375 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,440 the the interest that's that's uring on your two 1376 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,079 debentures so you pay them twice a year 1377 01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:59,279 depending on the date you took them out 1378 01:01:59,279 --> 01:02:01,319 so I think the last one I believe came 1379 01:02:01,319 --> 01:02:05,319 out December the 15 so um there would 1380 01:02:05,319 --> 01:02:08,400 have been 60 days of interest on the $3 1381 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,079 million to take it to the end of the 1382 01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:14,200 year so that amount wasn't recorded but 1383 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,559 under P rules you're supposed to record 1384 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,359 that so that's in the same applies to 1385 01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:21,720 the fire debenture so that's all it is 1386 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:27,480 so when you make your first payment in 2023 on the debentures that that 1387 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,680 number goes to zero then you make the 1388 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,880 payment again the following six months 1389 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,760 so that number will will be there um so 1390 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,599 unless you take on new debt that number 1391 01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:38,279 will be there every year but it'll just 1392 01:02:38,279 --> 01:02:41,880 keep going down yeah yeah thank 1393 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,359 you I just want to make a quick comment 1394 01:02:44,359 --> 01:02:46,520 Richard thank you very much for uh all 1395 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,920 the work that you and your staff have 1396 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,440 done and worked well with Nicole and her 1397 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,559 team I know you've had a it's always a 1398 01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,599 challenge you you know when you hear the 1399 01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:58,839 Auditors coming we kind of or I kind of 1400 01:02:58,839 --> 01:03:01,760 duck anyways but um but Nicole she's got 1401 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,720 lots of experiences doesn't bother her a 1402 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,480 bit so but I want to thank you very much 1403 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,039 for all your hard work in putting this 1404 01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:10,240 together and I'll read the 1405 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,279 resolution be resolved that the Council 1406 01:03:12,279 --> 01:03:15,279 of the township of Al mcal approved the 1407 01:03:15,279 --> 01:03:19,079 2022 draft financial statement audited 1408 01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:23,079 and presented by Baker Tilly kdn LLP to 1409 01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:25,160 be finalized and further that the 1410 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,359 council approved the proposed journal 1411 01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:31,039 entries prepared by Baker Tilly kdn LLP 1412 01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,839 to be posted by staff and further that 1413 01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:35,640 the council direct the mayor and the 1414 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,200 treasurer to sign the audit report 1415 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,240 letter enclosed in the 2022 draft 1416 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,640 financial statement package and further 1417 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,200 that the treasurers report dated October 1418 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,520 3rd 2023 regarding the 2022 fin 1419 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,279 financial statement be received and 1420 01:03:53,279 --> 01:03:55,240 filed in a 1421 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,319 second move by councelor Booth second by 1422 01:03:58,319 --> 01:04:00,520 Council rinworth any further 1423 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,079 discussion all in favor oh I have 1424 01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:06,240 question okay go ahead um these include 1425 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,039 the audited statements for the library 1426 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:12,480 correct so can Council approve theirs or 1427 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,599 do you present that then to the library 1428 01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:16,480 and they approve it how does that 1429 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,760 Dynamic work since they're an 1430 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,799 independent board um well technically on 1431 01:04:21,799 --> 01:04:23,920 but from a PAB perspective that they are 1432 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,640 viewed is a board of the township so 1433 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,400 therefore um our our um view of that is 1434 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,240 then Council does have the ultimate 1435 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,240 responsibility for the overall reporting 1436 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,279 package okay thank you all 1437 01:04:39,279 --> 01:04:41,240 favor motions 1438 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,640 carried thank you Richard have a safe 1439 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:50,390 trip home yes have a good meeting thanks 1440 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,640 Richard thank 1441 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,720 you item 10 and to 1442 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,119 20244 budget schedule whereas the 1443 01:04:58,119 --> 01:04:59,720 Council of the township Val mman 1444 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,680 received the 1445 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,680 2024 budget schedule report be resolve 1446 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,440 the council approved the 1447 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,200 2024 budget schedule Uber and 1448 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,359 seconder move by Deputy Mayor stobber 1449 01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:13,839 second by Council rainsworth any 1450 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:17,880 discussion all in favor motions carried 1451 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,680 you have a question I'm sorry sort of 1452 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,599 regarding through your worship maybe to 1453 01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:24,279 the treasurer is because it's still 1454 01:05:24,279 --> 01:05:26,960 budget and the schedule can you tell us 1455 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,359 and I don't know whether you know or 1456 01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:31,119 maybe the CAO knows I think you did a 1457 01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,559 presentation Nicole back in September 1458 01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:34,400 about 1459 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,760 overages and we were supposed to get a 1460 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,119 report back from I believe it was fire 1461 01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:40,480 and from 1462 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,279 roads are are we getting that report do 1463 01:05:43,279 --> 01:05:45,000 you know when we get that report about 1464 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,510 the 1465 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,039 overages 1466 01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:51,640 on 1467 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,799 um so I have not seen seen anything as 1468 01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:59,760 of yet and I might defer to uh CEO Dave 1469 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,640 Dawson he might be able to give me some 1470 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,839 on that yeah sure I can comment on that 1471 01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:07,440 um Nicole and I are having a meeting 1472 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,240 coming up that we'll be discussing this 1473 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:22,549 process okay thank 1474 01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:25,559 you moving right along uh the next we 1475 01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,920 have a presentation from the community 1476 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,680 risk assessment and fire master 1477 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,839 plan and uh the Lumix group is going to 1478 01:06:34,839 --> 01:06:37,279 do that and I wonder is Grace 1479 01:06:37,279 --> 01:06:40,079 here okay oh there's 1480 01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:43,039 Grace welcome 1481 01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:45,760 Grace Grace 1482 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:52,990 McDonald thank you please go 1483 01:06:53,000 --> 01:07:23,390 ahead 1484 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,670 to 1485 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,799 group um and I really want to just give 1486 01:07:29,799 --> 01:07:32,359 an overview today of the pro the two 1487 01:07:32,359 --> 01:07:35,520 processes that we have uh uh embarked 1488 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:41,309 upon because we've already we've already 1489 01:07:41,319 --> 01:07:43,799 begun so I'll just a little bit about 1490 01:07:43,799 --> 01:07:46,000 the lumex is is a large group of 1491 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,400 companies and 1492 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,039 um the company that I the part of the 1493 01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:52,640 group that I'm with is the government 1494 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,319 services group so we are involved in 1495 01:07:55,319 --> 01:07:57,359 municipalities doing community risk 1496 01:07:57,359 --> 01:08:00,000 assessments and fire Master plans they 1497 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,039 um they work for different clients 1498 01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,720 across Canada and the US they have an 1499 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,200 aeronautic side they have an Explorer 1500 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,480 solution side so they they do an awful 1501 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,240 lot of different work um but the goal is 1502 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,520 always to inspire uh positive uh work 1503 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,159 and change in communities and to make 1504 01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:22,839 communities organizations stronger and 1505 01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:26,120 safer so here's our team so our project 1506 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,719 advisor and the vice president of 1507 01:08:27,719 --> 01:08:31,120 government services is Terry jery and uh 1508 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,679 bill lurmer is the lumex team lead and 1509 01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,520 he will be actually taking the lead on 1510 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,839 uh on these projects uh here and he has 1511 01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:42,080 a great deal of experience bill is still 1512 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,199 active in the fire service and also has 1513 01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:47,120 a great deal of business experience and 1514 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,799 then the rest of the team as you can see 1515 01:08:49,799 --> 01:08:52,679 uh many of them coming from uh the fire 1516 01:08:52,679 --> 01:08:55,199 service some of of them being uh being 1517 01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,480 currently active and some of them being 1518 01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:00,799 uh retired members um I will be 1519 01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:02,880 assisting Bill a little bit on this 1520 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,199 project and I come from uh the private 1521 01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:08,359 sector having 24 years experience in 1522 01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:12,470 fire safety and emergency 1523 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:15,199 planning so the first uh document that 1524 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:16,640 I'd like to talk a little bit about 1525 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,430 today is the community risk 1526 01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:22,679 assessment so the community or the 1527 01:09:22,679 --> 01:09:24,759 Ontario regulation for the community 1528 01:09:24,759 --> 01:09:27,040 risk assessments came into effect July 1529 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,279 1st 1530 01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:31,319 2019 this is where the province uh 1531 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:33,640 declared that all uh municipalities and 1532 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,799 fire departments um conduct and uh and 1533 01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:41,679 uh develop a CRA the deadline for that 1534 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:45,199 uh is July 1st 2024 so it is fast 1535 01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:48,239 approaching CRA is basically identify 1536 01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:50,759 and uh and look at Community risks from 1537 01:09:50,759 --> 01:09:53,239 a fire Services perspective so it's a 1538 01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:55,080 little bit different than the HD that 1539 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,560 you may have all already worked on 1540 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,520 that's sort of more from an emergency 1541 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,520 management perspective so looking at a broader Spectrum whereas we're 1542 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,640 looking at the risks in your community 1543 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,320 um from a fire Services perspective and 1544 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,320 it really is a tool and it's going to 1545 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,920 help municipalities make decisions about 1546 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,719 fire protection levels of service what 1547 01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:19,080 your risks are and how to mitigate those 1548 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,120 risks um in your 1549 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,640 communities so 1550 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,239 there are uh nine mandatory profiles 1551 01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:29,280 that we look at within the community 1552 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,199 risk assessment so we look at the 1553 01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,960 geographic profile and I already can 1554 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,960 tell you that you have a most 1555 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,199 interesting Geographic profile here in 1556 01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:43,719 on caldan just simply by by the virtue 1557 01:10:43,719 --> 01:10:49,640 of how your the the geographic area of your municipality and how it's laid 1558 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,800 out we look at your building stock so we 1559 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,800 look at some residential uh building 1560 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,199 stock we look at commercial building 1561 01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:01,719 stock industrial building stock um any 1562 01:11:01,719 --> 01:11:03,920 vulnerable occupancies that exist in 1563 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,280 your community and the risks that might 1564 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,600 be implied uh from that one of the new 1565 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,760 things that has uh that has come out is 1566 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,080 the fire Marshall's office um is now uh 1567 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,640 requiring municipalities to track 1568 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,719 lightweight construction so this is this 1569 01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:22,920 is fairly new and it's certainly a 1570 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,360 challenge 1571 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,400 um we have not come across a 1572 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,880 municipality yet that is actively 1573 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,400 tracking lightweight construction so 1574 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,239 it's something that will have to be in 1575 01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:37,280 place uh going forward um that that is 1576 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,719 now tracked and Community risk 1577 01:11:39,719 --> 01:11:41,679 assessments are developed and then it is 1578 01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:43,760 required that they're redeveloped five 1579 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,000 years down the road we certainly 1580 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,400 recommend that they're reviewed annually 1581 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,800 um and as things change uh the document 1582 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,400 becomes gets updated but in five years I 1583 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,480 think the requirement will still be 1584 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,520 there for lightweight construction and 1585 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,199 hopefully um municipalities will will 1586 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:04,159 have been able to do to do some 1587 01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,040 tracking um we look at all your 1588 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,000 demographics so we look at your 1589 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,560 population we look at the age of your 1590 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,760 population we look at the education 1591 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,920 level of your population we look at uh 1592 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,719 your cultural 1593 01:12:17,719 --> 01:12:20,400 backgrounds um we look at any obvious 1594 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,520 hazards that exist within your community 1595 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,560 we look at your Public Safety response 1596 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,239 entity so who other than your your fire 1597 01:12:29,239 --> 01:12:32,719 department are are you relying on to 1598 01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:36,960 respond um to uh to events um within 1599 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,280 your community and I think probably an 1600 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,760 example would be CN rail CP Rail um 1601 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:47,560 Ministry of Transportation where you're also uh you know relying on other 1602 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,719 organizations um to respond what are the 1603 01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:53,199 community services within your community 1604 01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:55,840 so so who within your community um is 1605 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,679 able to respond and assist um in the 1606 01:12:58,679 --> 01:13:01,239 event of an emergency um they can be 1607 01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:03,960 Community groups you may have um service 1608 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,280 clubs um things like that so we'll look 1609 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,600 a little bit at that um economics again 1610 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,600 we'll look at at um the economic factors 1611 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,800 in your community and that will be you 1612 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,679 know who are the employers where are 1613 01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:20,639 people working uh what are what's the 1614 01:13:20,639 --> 01:13:23,440 income level of of people within the 1615 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:26,120 Community what are the economic factors 1616 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,600 the challenges um within the community 1617 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,960 so we try and look a little bit at all 1618 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,760 of that and then the past events and 1619 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,120 lost history so this is information that 1620 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,120 uh We Gather through working directly 1621 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,840 with the fire department with your fire 1622 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,920 chief and his staff so we're looking at 1623 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,840 what's happened generally in the last 1624 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,480 five years but sometimes there's a 1625 01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:50,199 significant event that might be just 1626 01:13:50,199 --> 01:13:52,639 outside that window so we certainly will 1627 01:13:52,639 --> 01:13:56,000 look at that too so uh past loss in 1628 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,560 terms of in terms of fire loss past 1629 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,320 history in terms of inspections um and 1630 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,320 any other risk so if it's a weather 1631 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,320 related risk and there was a major event 1632 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,000 you know six years ago or seven years 1633 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,320 ago we're going to look at all of those 1634 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,639 things so those are the nine profiles 1635 01:14:11,639 --> 01:14:14,440 that we'll be examining to put together 1636 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:17,159 the community risk assessment so it's 1637 01:14:17,159 --> 01:14:21,440 really about um evaluating the threat so 1638 01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:24,560 the likelihood and the con consquence so 1639 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,199 we look at the likelihood of Any Given 1640 01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:29,719 threat occurring in the community and 1641 01:14:29,719 --> 01:14:32,320 the way we do that is to look at that 1642 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,679 past event history and look at the 1643 01:14:34,679 --> 01:14:37,679 likelihood of that uh event occurring 1644 01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:40,480 again um the ofm states the fire 1645 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,600 department should use a professional 1646 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,719 judgment along with historical 1647 01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:47,080 information about past incidents and How 1648 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,880 likely it is for that event to occur or 1649 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,560 reoccur so then the consequence is 1650 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,280 always the PO potential loss losses or 1651 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,560 negative effect negative effects that 1652 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,560 result in the community after emergency 1653 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,760 so there is a Formula that is used 1654 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,080 within the community risk assessment so 1655 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,760 once we assess the likelihood and again 1656 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,520 looking at past events um and other 1657 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,440 information and then we look at the 1658 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,880 consequences there's a formula in place 1659 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,480 that gives us a number that sort of lets 1660 01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:21,679 us know whether the risk is a high risk 1661 01:15:21,679 --> 01:15:25,159 a moderate risk or a low 1662 01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:28,600 risk so it's important uh to identify 1663 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,000 these risks um and uh which ones are 1664 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,719 likely to occur um and and what the 1665 01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:37,639 serious consequences are there you know 1666 01:15:37,639 --> 01:15:40,639 may may be after we identify the risk 1667 01:15:40,639 --> 01:15:42,719 then we can determine how to address 1668 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:45,719 them so we start to look at uh risk 1669 01:15:45,719 --> 01:15:48,040 treatment plans for the various risks 1670 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,239 that we've identified in the community 1671 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,600 so if an emergency were occur and the 1672 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,239 community has hasn't established 1673 01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,520 adequate response protocols the 1674 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,320 consequences you know could be more 1675 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,639 severe than if we've weighed that risk 1676 01:16:00,639 --> 01:16:03,040 decided is this a risk that we need to 1677 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,280 accept can we mitigate this risk if so 1678 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,360 how do we mitigate this risk is it a 1679 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,040 risk we can share with other entities so 1680 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,400 all of that uh is part of the the 1681 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,830 community risk 1682 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,880 assessment so our approach and 1683 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,480 methodology methodology so we have a 1684 01:16:21,480 --> 01:16:24,600 team um so your team has uh has been 1685 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,280 selected and I'm very happy to be to be 1686 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,159 one of them we start to review the data 1687 01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:33,440 and uh as the chief can attest to we ask 1688 01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:36,520 for a great deal of data for for the 1689 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,760 community risk assessment so we look at 1690 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,159 the legislation we look at your you're 1691 01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:43,199 establishing regulating bylaws we look 1692 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:45,560 at fire prevention policies if they're 1693 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,960 in place we look at documents reports we 1694 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,600 look at maps and we conduct site visits 1695 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,120 and part of that process I think has 1696 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,840 already has already been gone begun so 1697 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,880 we engage with the fire chief the deputy 1698 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,400 chief and any other Municipal uh 1699 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,040 stakeholders and then we analyze the 1700 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,400 information consider what the best 1701 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,239 practices uh should be develop that 1702 01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:09,960 Community risk assessment and then 1703 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,760 develop the mitigation uh strategies for 1704 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,270 those identified 1705 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,960 risks so just to give you some some uh 1706 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,719 understanding of how we measure the risk 1707 01:17:23,719 --> 01:17:26,800 so the categories are rare unlikely 1708 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,520 possible likely and almost certain so 1709 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,320 once we have an idea of the past history 1710 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,239 and what has occurred then we can begin 1711 01:17:37,239 --> 01:17:41,400 to to rate the likelihood levels so rare 1712 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,800 may occur in exceptional circumstances 1713 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,600 no incidents in the last 15 years 1714 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,159 unlikely could occur at some time if 1715 01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:52,280 circumstances significantly change 5 to 1716 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,280 15 years since the last incident 1717 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,280 possible would be might occur under 1718 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,080 current circumstances one incident in 1719 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,360 the past five years likely will probably 1720 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,120 occur at sometime under current 1721 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,560 circumstances multiple or recurring 1722 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,400 incidents in the past five years and 1723 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,159 almost certain expected to occur in most 1724 01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:16,239 situations unless circumstances change 1725 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:18,679 multiple or reoccurring incidents in the 1726 01:18:18,679 --> 01:18:21,320 past year so the best example I could 1727 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,800 give you uh of this would maybe be a 1728 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,760 residential residential fires so 1729 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,199 residential fires almost always uh are 1730 01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:35,239 in the almost certain or likely 1731 01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:37,480 category despite all the work that's 1732 01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:41,120 being done to prevent them 1733 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,800 um and then we look at the consequence 1734 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,000 levels of those risks so is it 1735 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,880 insignificant no life safety limited 1736 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,159 value or no property loss no impact on 1737 01:18:52,159 --> 01:18:54,480 the local econom economy and no effect 1738 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:57,719 on General living conditions is it minor 1739 01:18:57,719 --> 01:18:59,920 potential risk to the life safety of 1740 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,600 residents minor property loss minimal 1741 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,199 disruption to business activity minimal 1742 01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:07,679 impact on General living conditions or 1743 01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:09,920 moderate threat to life safety of 1744 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,840 residents moderate property loss poses a 1745 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,239 threat to small or local businesses 1746 01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:16,880 could pose a threat to the quality of 1747 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,639 the environment major potential for 1748 01:19:19,639 --> 01:19:22,040 massive loss of life significant 1749 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,320 property damage significant threat to 1750 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,840 large businesses local economy and 1751 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,440 tourism environmental impact causing 1752 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:32,159 short-term partial evacuation of 1753 01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:35,159 residents and businesses or significant 1754 01:19:35,159 --> 01:19:37,280 loss of life property damage to a 1755 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,320 sizable portion of the community 1756 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,639 long-term disruption of businesses local 1757 01:19:41,639 --> 01:19:44,360 employment and tourism or environmental 1758 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,440 damage resulting in long-term evacuation 1759 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:51,400 of residents and businesses so those are 1760 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,520 the things that we will be me measuring 1761 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,880 against once we have identified the 1762 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,679 risks and this just shows you how it 1763 01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:02,480 comes across so when we're looking at 1764 01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:04,679 those two categories and again there's 1765 01:20:04,679 --> 01:20:07,000 also a number assigned once we run it 1766 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,360 through the Matrix but so if something 1767 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,000 is almost certain and it is going to be 1768 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,280 a major 1769 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,320 consequence then it's going to score 1770 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,880 high if it's almost certain but the uh 1771 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,400 in it has an insignificant consequence 1772 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,280 and again 1773 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,679 probably uh motor vehicle collisions 1774 01:20:26,679 --> 01:20:28,880 would be would be an example where 1775 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,159 something is almost certain to occur in 1776 01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:34,080 the in the next year is the consequence 1777 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,880 to the community in significant or minor 1778 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,440 yes so it's going to score in that in 1779 01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:42,790 that moderate 1780 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,520 risk so then we start to develop the 1781 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,000 risk treatment plan so for each risk 1782 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,040 that we have scored through the Matrix 1783 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,560 we will develop a risk treatment plan 1784 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,800 and and again it's an evidence-based 1785 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,560 approach most of this document is 1786 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,600 statistical driven so it's not really an 1787 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,120 opinion piece we're really looking at 1788 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,639 the statistics at the numbers both in 1789 01:21:05,639 --> 01:21:07,159 this community and we're doing some 1790 01:21:07,159 --> 01:21:09,080 comparisons with numbers across the 1791 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,600 province so again we're looking at the 1792 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,960 statistics then we will uh develop the 1793 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,440 risk treatment plans and they'll 1794 01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:18,159 consider the potential outcomes uh what 1795 01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:21,280 the proposed action should be um to to 1796 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,560 mitigate those risks um they may 1797 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,080 recommend training Service delivery 1798 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,159 agreements um we may be looking at 1799 01:21:29,159 --> 01:21:31,760 different resource allocation or service 1800 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,880 level changes and those recommendations 1801 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,280 will be in the risk treatment plan that 1802 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,189 comes to 1803 01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:43,480 councel so the next document that we are 1804 01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:46,880 working on is the fire master plan so 1805 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,560 the risk treatment plan sort of lays the 1806 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,600 groundwork so you've identified the 1807 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,600 risks in your community Community we've 1808 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,520 looked at some strategies you have some 1809 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,960 risk treatment plans in place and then 1810 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,920 that informs the fire master plan so the 1811 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,679 next piece is the fire master 1812 01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:06,239 plan so the purpose of the fire master 1813 01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:09,199 plan is really to ensure um that this 1814 01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:11,159 municipality's fire department is 1815 01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:13,199 compliant with the fire protection and 1816 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:15,280 prevention act and any other uh 1817 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,000 applicable legislation it will provide 1818 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,320 recommendations about appropriate levels 1819 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,639 of service in public education in Code 1820 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:27,040 Enforcement which is fire prevention and 1821 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,120 suppression it'll provide uh council 1822 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:30,840 with 1823 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,679 information um to help make decisions 1824 01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:35,239 that are going to protect the lives and 1825 01:22:35,239 --> 01:22:37,760 property um of the residents and ensure 1826 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,159 firefighter safety it will provide 1827 01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:42,239 Council and the fire chief with 1828 01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:45,120 budgeting and timeline recommendations 1829 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,080 it'll provide a guide for aligning uh 1830 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,239 available resources um as efficiently 1831 01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:56,550 and cost effectively as 1832 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,480 possible so the areas of focus for the 1833 01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:02,639 fire master plan are governance fire 1834 01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:04,920 suppression and emergency response so we 1835 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,840 look at the current level of service 1836 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,639 that you're delivering in these areas 1837 01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:10,840 we're looking at the training uh fire 1838 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,840 prevention and public education Staffing 1839 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,440 levels fire stations so the actual 1840 01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,719 functionality as well as location of the 1841 01:23:19,719 --> 01:23:23,280 fire stations fire apparatus and equip M 1842 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,719 we're looking at your maintenance 1843 01:23:24,719 --> 01:23:28,199 program your dispatch and Radio Systems 1844 01:23:28,199 --> 01:23:30,920 we're looking at your budgets uh your 1845 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,800 cooperation levels uh with other 1846 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,480 Emergency Services fire protection 1847 01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:37,440 agreements where you may have those in 1848 01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:39,760 place with uh with other fire 1849 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,320 departments um and population and 1850 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,600 employment growth so projected uh 1851 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,880 projected 1852 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,600 growth so the stakeholders uh of course 1853 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,360 our Council Municipal staff 1854 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,280 uh the firefighters uh Department staff 1855 01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:01,189 the residents businesses and Municipal 1856 01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:08,639 Partners so we have already begun our SWAT analysis and so we will meet uh 1857 01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:12,360 with uh the firefighters and with the uh 1858 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,679 officers uh SWAT standing um for 1859 01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:17,880 strengths weaknesses opportunities and 1860 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,840 threats so we have already conducted our 1861 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,239 first SWAT meeting at station three am I 1862 01:24:25,239 --> 01:24:27,280 correct thank you station three station 1863 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,840 two came to station three and we had 1864 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,199 both groups together and then tomorrow 1865 01:24:32,199 --> 01:24:35,000 evening we will repeat the process uh 1866 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,760 here at station one so we will have a 1867 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,480 session uh strictly for firefighters and 1868 01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:43,199 then a session uh for officers and I 1869 01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:45,800 believe that there's already uh surveys 1870 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,040 in the works that are that are being 1871 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,960 distributed and uh trying to get 1872 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,040 feedback uh from from the surveys as 1873 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,159 well and that's the end of my 1874 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:01,520 presentation uh does anyone have any 1875 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,480 questions thank you very much for your 1876 01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:05,719 presentation you're very wel any 1877 01:25:05,719 --> 01:25:07,840 questions from 1878 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,800 Council go 1879 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,920 ahead um and this is to uh SE 1880 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,800 Dawson I notice the swad analysis will 1881 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,639 be tomorrow night is this anything just 1882 01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:22,480 pertaining to the fire department with 1883 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,880 this be a good learning experience for 1884 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,000 Council or you don't want us 1885 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,719 there you might get the wrong answer I 1886 01:25:31,719 --> 01:25:36,189 that way I just put it out 1887 01:25:36,199 --> 01:25:39,119 there microphone uh through your 1888 01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:41,639 May Council St these uh first sessions 1889 01:25:41,639 --> 01:25:43,719 with the firefighters are designed to 1890 01:25:43,719 --> 01:25:46,360 not have Council present uh and in fact 1891 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,320 the fire chief is not welcome um so 1892 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,679 they're designed to get um honest and 1893 01:25:53,679 --> 01:25:55,520 open feedback from the firefighters 1894 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,119 about how they're feeling how they feel 1895 01:25:57,119 --> 01:25:58,679 about the fire department and their 1896 01:25:58,679 --> 01:26:01,600 service and then the second session is 1897 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,960 scheduled with the officers so that the 1898 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,280 firefighters uh supervisors are not with 1899 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,840 them either and then the supervisors get 1900 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,880 to speak openly with the firefighters 1901 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,560 present uh because the fire chief Works 1902 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,639 handin hand with lumex uh and the team 1903 01:26:16,639 --> 01:26:19,320 for Gathering the information that uh I 1904 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,400 get to voice my information as well uh 1905 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,119 and my understanding is that through 1906 01:26:25,119 --> 01:26:28,320 your grace that um Council will be given 1907 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,760 the same opportunity that was a question 1908 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,920 that Terry jery had uh with me in the 1909 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,480 very beginning um some uh municipalities 1910 01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:39,719 don't include Council While others do 1911 01:26:39,719 --> 01:26:44,239 want that to happen so I express that was a necessity 1912 01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:47,600 here you got it looked after then you 1913 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,199 will be contacted thank 1914 01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:53,320 you 1915 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,159 anybody 1916 01:26:55,159 --> 01:26:57,520 else Grace uh thank you very much for 1917 01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,719 your presentation I just have one um I 1918 01:26:59,719 --> 01:27:01,239 know you've started and we got to be 1919 01:27:01,239 --> 01:27:03,840 done in by the 1 of July we're going to 1920 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,440 meet that by a long 1921 01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:08,040 way 1922 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,239 yes yes I believe that our the timeline 1923 01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:12,960 is is going to be met I don't think 1924 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,560 there's any there's any issue with the 1925 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,880 timeline here information has already 1926 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:21,480 begun to to flow to us so that's that's very helpful and have you've done 1927 01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:22,840 an awful lot of these because there's 1928 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,719 444 municipalities of granal so I'm 1929 01:27:25,719 --> 01:27:28,000 assuming this is a big thing for your 1930 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,239 company we have happily been been very 1931 01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:34,159 busy in the last year and I expect that 1932 01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:35,920 um I'm very glad that you're you're 1933 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,119 getting uh yours done this year but I I 1934 01:27:39,119 --> 01:27:41,400 know that there will be uh some 1935 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,560 municipalities uh waiting to the last 1936 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,560 minute and I think it's going to be a 1937 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,800 little bit of a crunch trying to trying 1938 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,360 to get to everyone who hasn't uh hasn't 1939 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,480 completed theirs well I know our chief 1940 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:55,199 he likes to get moving on stuff quick so 1941 01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:58,910 give him a chance and he's out there 1942 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:04,430 biting that's a compliment yeah I 1943 01:28:04,440 --> 01:28:06,679 know be it resolved the Council of the 1944 01:28:06,679 --> 01:28:09,119 township Val molan receive and file the 1945 01:28:09,119 --> 01:28:12,400 community risk asset assessment for me 1946 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,119 and master fire plan presentation from 1947 01:28:15,119 --> 01:28:20,119 Lumix group Grace McDon for information 1948 01:28:20,119 --> 01:28:23,000 moved by Mary Katherine seconded by 1949 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,679 councelor answorth further discussion 1950 01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:28,639 all in favor motion's carried thank you 1951 01:28:28,639 --> 01:28:42,510 so much for your 1952 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,360 presentation 1953 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,719 uh next we have 121 the building permit 1954 01:28:47,719 --> 01:28:49,440 summary re resolve the Council of the 1955 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:51,159 township of Al cman receed for 1956 01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:52,719 information the build building permit 1957 01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:55,639 summer report dated October 3rd 1958 01:28:55,639 --> 01:28:59,239 2023 from Chief Building official Nick 1959 01:28:59,239 --> 01:29:03,390 horick is Nick 1960 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:10,310 here yes he is uh can I get uh Nick you 1961 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,639 there yeah I'm here my my video is not 1962 01:29:13,639 --> 01:29:16,040 working I just want I'm not sure if 1963 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,280 anybody's going to have any questions 1964 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,920 for you or not but I'm I'm going to read 1965 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,280 the resolution and then if we have 1966 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,960 questions we can asked you be resolved 1967 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,760 the Council of the township Val Mulin 1968 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,560 received for information the building 1969 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,960 permit summary report dated October 3rd 1970 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:35,109 20123 from Chief Building official nick 1971 01:29:35,119 --> 01:29:38,280 horg uh can I get a move and 1972 01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,000 seconder mov by Deputy Mayor stobber and 1973 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,760 seconded by Council O'Neal we got any 1974 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,880 questions for for 1975 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,360 Nick go ahead Deputy Mayor through here 1976 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,159 man loo um and and this is to Nick um 1977 01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:56,000 Nick are you I'm wondering uh if you uh 1978 01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,199 perceived to have any um changes in your 1979 01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:03,719 report then uh because I I realized the 1980 01:30:03,719 --> 01:30:05,480 uh this is something that you've 1981 01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:09,560 continued on and I'm just wondering if 1982 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,239 you would have um any changes you would 1983 01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:20,830 like to see in the reports that come to 1984 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:25,199 us um I I don't know yeah I I don't know 1985 01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:27,600 if there's anything that I would 1986 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,320 necessarily add unless there's more 1987 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,560 information that you would like to see 1988 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,109 um as 1989 01:30:36,119 --> 01:30:39,040 Council thank 1990 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,280 you any other further questions for 1991 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,040 Nick all in favor motions carried thank 1992 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:47,760 you 1993 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,840 Nick thank 1994 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:56,990 you 1995 01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,840 next we have uh the asset management 1996 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,320 report and is uh Brian are you doing 1997 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:09,870 this or is Susan with us 1998 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:13,040 today hello Susan how are you I'm good 1999 01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,840 how are you uh do you want to oh your 2000 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:16,880 both there do you want to lead us 2001 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,430 through your 2002 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:23,840 report um I think it's just um a summary 2003 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,040 basically of um where asset management 2004 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,679 is right now and where it's going so 2005 01:31:29,679 --> 01:31:33,600 right now basically um I am reviewing um 2006 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,239 the assets that we have um the actual 2007 01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,320 um report of the asset management plan 2008 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,480 was done in 2021 so some of the 2009 01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:47,280 information that we have goes back to 2010 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,520 2019 so some of it's there between 2019 2011 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:55,320 and 2022 to so basically now I am going 2012 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,400 through the assets trying to update them 2013 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,400 to the current time for the last couple 2014 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,360 years and any of the information that 2015 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,679 needs to be added I'm going to have to 2016 01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:06,960 meet the senior um managers uh to go 2017 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,639 through to make sure once I've got 2018 01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:11,080 things in can you either can you uh 2019 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,800 excuse me for a second can you either 2020 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,159 try speaking a little bit closer or 2021 01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:15,719 further away from this speaker because 2022 01:32:15,719 --> 01:32:17,440 we're having difficulty 2023 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:20,480 understanding can't hear me well we can 2024 01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:22,920 hear you but it's just 2025 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:27,870 monly okay let me see if there's 2026 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,280 that I'll try a headset and see if you 2027 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,910 can hear me 2028 01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:37,350 better 2029 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,119 okay hey can you hear me a bit better 2030 01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:49,189 now I think so you think 2031 01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:54,080 so hey I'm not sure if this headset is 2032 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,639 working 2033 01:32:55,639 --> 01:32:58,480 properly yeah it's much better it's much 2034 01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:02,239 better perfect okay so basically now um 2035 01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:05,639 I'm going through and um updating the 2036 01:33:05,639 --> 01:33:08,119 assets uh to the present time to the end 2037 01:33:08,119 --> 01:33:10,239 of this year I'm going to meet with the 2038 01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:13,239 senior management team um to make sure 2039 01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:15,480 that what we've got in there which with 2040 01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:17,679 all the senior managers is 2041 01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:20,360 correct um and then once we're done with 2042 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,159 that process we'll be start starting to 2043 01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:25,440 look at um we have to have our levels of 2044 01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:29,199 service in for uh 20 July 1st of 2045 01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:32,840 2024 so basically that process is um 2046 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,840 looking through some of our um Master 2047 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,400 plans um as you heard just they were 2048 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,320 talking about the fire master plan and 2049 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,440 having the levels of service in there I 2050 01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:45,280 do believe that most of um our Master 2051 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,679 plans do not like looking at parks and 2052 01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:49,520 wck there isn't levels of service in 2053 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,159 there so we'll be going through that um 2054 01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:53,880 working with Council and working with 2055 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,159 staff to get appropriate levels of 2056 01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:58,239 service I'm doing training at the 2057 01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:01,480 present time as well to uh go through 2058 01:34:01,480 --> 01:34:03,320 with smaller municipalities and getting 2059 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,360 the level of service um done for them 2060 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,239 and just working with other ones in the 2061 01:34:09,239 --> 01:34:11,440 area so we're all kind of in the same 2062 01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:15,239 boat at this present time and then once 2063 01:34:15,239 --> 01:34:18,040 that is complete um at the end of the 2064 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,119 year I'm hoping maybe to do another 2065 01:34:20,119 --> 01:34:23,600 presentation um looking at um the assets 2066 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,560 that we have and doing a presentation uh 2067 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,239 showing um you know for budgets and 2068 01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:32,600 Analysis and that how it can be helpful 2069 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,000 for everyone at that 2070 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,560 point okay thank you anything 2071 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,400 else if anybody has any questions with 2072 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:45,119 regards to it yeah I I've got one Susan 2073 01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:51,239 uh do that's a short term for what for 2074 01:34:51,239 --> 01:34:53,280 that's um the software that we have 2075 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,119 which is a decision optimization 2076 01:34:56,119 --> 01:35:00,239 technology okay okay um and I guess my 2077 01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:02,760 other question about how much time do 2078 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,960 will the managers need to spend on the 2079 01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,400 with you on something like this do you 2080 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:09,960 have a feel for that compared to what 2081 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,390 you were doing in 2082 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,239 2022 um I think it this point so we just 2083 01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:19,040 started doing this this year so um it's 2084 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,760 a new position as you know so um so 2085 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,080 nothing's been looked at since um you 2086 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,239 have gotten the software back in 2087 01:35:27,239 --> 01:35:30,639 2022 so um it's going to be a little bit 2088 01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:32,679 of time with with each of the managers 2089 01:35:32,679 --> 01:35:34,199 just to make sure that what we have in 2090 01:35:34,199 --> 01:35:36,199 the system is representative of what 2091 01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:38,600 they have um things assets that they've 2092 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,560 gotten rid of new assets that they've 2093 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,600 gotten just making sure that it's all 2094 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,320 correct so at this point I can't tell 2095 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,040 you for sure how long it's going to take 2096 01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,800 but it's going to be a bit of a process 2097 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,920 just getting everything updated is a bit 2098 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,679 of a process 2099 01:35:52,679 --> 01:35:54,719 okay um and I know you mentioned it but 2100 01:35:54,719 --> 01:35:56,719 you're I at least I think you mentioned 2101 01:35:56,719 --> 01:35:58,719 that you're going to give us an update 2102 01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:00,000 by the end of the year or something 2103 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,320 along that line yeah year probably into 2104 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,280 January once we've got all the assets up 2105 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,280 to date then we can give you a better 2106 01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,239 overview of everything at that time 2107 01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:11,719 perfect anybody else have any Mary 2108 01:36:11,719 --> 01:36:12,760 cathine go 2109 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,520 ahead um this is more so a comment than 2110 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,000 any question but thank you very much for 2111 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,639 an update and letting us know where we 2112 01:36:19,639 --> 01:36:23,280 are in the process and that I'm very 2113 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,199 excited to see that staff and Council 2114 01:36:25,199 --> 01:36:27,239 will be working together to set the 2115 01:36:27,239 --> 01:36:30,320 current levels of service and I I think 2116 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:34,800 that's a very positive step thank 2117 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,400 you any other questions or 2118 01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,440 comments thank you for your report Susan 2119 01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:43,320 I'll read the resolution be it resolved 2120 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,119 the Council of the township Val mman 2121 01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:47,440 receive and file the asset management 2122 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:49,840 update report from the public works 2123 01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,800 department for information mover in 2124 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,199 seconder move by Deputy Mayor stobber 2125 01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:57,480 seconded by councelor answorth all in 2126 01:36:57,480 --> 01:37:01,229 favor motions 2127 01:37:01,239 --> 01:37:03,320 carry go another 10 minutes and then 2128 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:07,070 we'll take a 2129 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,310 break thank 2130 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,440 you uh October uh request for parking 2131 01:37:14,440 --> 01:37:17,080 restrictions South End of Ontario 2132 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,440 Street uh Brian are you going to take us 2133 01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:21,960 through this real quickly 2134 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,239 uh yes I will mayor logo member of 2135 01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:26,920 council um there was a letter that uh 2136 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,000 come to council uh a couple Council 2137 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,960 meetings ago from the 2138 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,760 Cochrans um and again I did meet Mr 2139 01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,239 Cochran uh down there at in Lakeport um 2140 01:37:37,239 --> 01:37:39,599 but again there is um I would like to do 2141 01:37:39,599 --> 01:37:42,119 a little bit more further uh 2142 01:37:42,119 --> 01:37:44,320 investigation in this uh meet with the 2143 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,719 cochr again both them Brendan mouren and 2144 01:37:46,719 --> 01:37:48,440 then bring a recommendation back to 2145 01:37:48,440 --> 01:37:51,760 council um they were Mr uh carom was 2146 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,119 very good to meet with we walked the um 2147 01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:57,080 Road Louch down to Lake Ontario uh we 2148 01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,920 had a good 15 minute to 20 minute chat 2149 01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:02,560 um the flowing down now their many 2150 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,639 concerns are mainly during the the 2151 01:38:04,639 --> 01:38:06,400 summer so I didn't I didn't want to rush 2152 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,000 a report to councel on this before I uh 2153 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,639 you know really laid out different 2154 01:38:11,639 --> 01:38:14,440 options run it by them as well because 2155 01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:16,320 again their yard and the backyard is 2156 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,520 right there so it does I want to make 2157 01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,719 sure that the the road allowance for the 2158 01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:23,679 users using it isn't uh interrupted too 2159 01:38:23,679 --> 01:38:26,360 much as well being cognizant of the the 2160 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,480 coch live next door as well so I just 2161 01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:30,159 like a little bit further time to do 2162 01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:32,320 this and bring something back to council 2163 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,000 okay have you got a a date you're 2164 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,400 thinking to 2165 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,199 vote by the end of the year 2166 01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:40,960 um it be in this year so you know 2167 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,599 probably that could be November could be 2168 01:38:42,599 --> 01:38:44,400 the November meeting lat the December 2169 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,719 meeting the first meeting 2170 01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:49,639 December okay I think that's suitable 2171 01:38:49,639 --> 01:38:51,599 I'll read the resolution resolve that 2172 01:38:51,599 --> 01:38:53,599 the Council of the township of Al McMan 2173 01:38:53,599 --> 01:38:55,599 received the Lakeport Ontario Street 2174 01:38:55,599 --> 01:38:58,400 report from the manager of Public Works 2175 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,280 Parks and Recreation for information and 2176 01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:03,280 further be resolved the council approved 2177 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:04,760 the staff request to consider the 2178 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,560 manager's recommendation regarding this 2179 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,800 matter to a future 2180 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,119 meeting uh by the end of 2181 01:39:13,119 --> 01:39:17,280 December Council okay with that y got to 2182 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,560 move in a 2183 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,280 second move by Council rinworth second 2184 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,239 by Deputy Mayor stobber further 2185 01:39:23,239 --> 01:39:25,119 discussion all in 2186 01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:28,320 favor Mo motions car just motions car 2187 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,960 but go ahead Mike yeah I just 2188 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,239 um I I wonder what when Brian's putting 2189 01:39:35,239 --> 01:39:39,000 this report together if um I I don't 2190 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,199 know if he if he has anything he can 2191 01:39:40,199 --> 01:39:42,960 share with us today because I mean it's 2192 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,880 um with the little park there and the 2193 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,440 way Ontario Comes Around The Front 2194 01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:52,400 Street there um you know it's uh 2195 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,719 you know it's it's a good used area down 2196 01:39:54,719 --> 01:39:57,000 through there that's all and I just 2197 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,880 wouldn't want to create 2198 01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:03,040 more U issues than we're trying to 2199 01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,119 solve go ahead Brian yeah I guess I 2200 01:40:06,119 --> 01:40:07,840 should have maybe comment a bit more a 2201 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,320 bit more counselors there in mayor logal 2202 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,960 I did answer some of the questions that 2203 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:15,320 come from Council I think from uh Mary C 2204 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,400 there um you know on the monument uh the 2205 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:22,280 kaying kayak using the road a gate uh 2206 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,639 dust da is possible parking if access po 2207 01:40:25,639 --> 01:40:28,080 it would be an issue so I think that uh 2208 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,719 council rinworth is talking about that 2209 01:40:29,719 --> 01:40:33,040 it is a you know a well used area and 2210 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,520 again where it is on the curve on the 90 2211 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,280 degree Bend there and stuff if we did 2212 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,560 you know um restrict parking on the road 2213 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,440 louns it would cause an issue out on on 2214 01:40:42,440 --> 01:40:44,000 the streets and stuff like that so I 2215 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,280 there's a few moving Parts in this um in 2216 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,719 this report coming back so um that's why 2217 01:40:49,719 --> 01:40:51,520 I just want a little bit more time but 2218 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,679 uh I think the busy time of the year is 2219 01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:54,880 coming up like probably after 2220 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,480 Thanksgiving and you know late October 2221 01:40:57,480 --> 01:41:00,719 um the usage will slow down there so uh 2222 01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:02,320 it was my plan to bring a report back 2223 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,440 here by you know uh by December early 2224 01:41:04,440 --> 01:41:06,679 December that this would be in place or 2225 01:41:06,679 --> 01:41:08,400 for Council to entertain my 2226 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,679 recommendation so that in 2227 01:41:10,679 --> 01:41:14,159 2024 this is these issues uh that the 2228 01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:16,880 Cochrans have as well as taking 2229 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,560 consideration of people that use this uh 2230 01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,480 aren't impacted too much as 2231 01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:23,560 well thank you 2232 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,159 Brian yes go ahead through your mayor 2233 01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,679 logo Brian just a question if uh can you 2234 01:41:29,679 --> 01:41:31,880 tell the council what the financial 2235 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,599 impact would be if we had to install a 2236 01:41:33,599 --> 01:41:36,159 Dust Till Dawn 2237 01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:38,920 gate because it would have right open 2238 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:40,560 and closed every single day we'd have to 2239 01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,719 send staff down to do 2240 01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:45,199 that yeah and that probably wasn't uh 2241 01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:47,199 through you uh mayor logo that probably 2242 01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:48,800 wasn't going to be in my recommendation 2243 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,960 to have that but I would probably have a 2244 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,040 I don't know the cost now Dave but I I 2245 01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,239 would have that in my future report but 2246 01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:57,840 definitely would be the cost impacted by 2247 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,920 that for sure no that's great Brian 2248 01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:02,119 that's what I wanted you to mention 2249 01:42:02,119 --> 01:42:05,480 thank you thank you Mike you got another 2250 01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:08,719 comment yeah so when when this came to 2251 01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:11,320 council it was about the uh the 2252 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,360 headlights from the cars coming down and 2253 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,159 turning to the left and shining through 2254 01:42:15,159 --> 01:42:18,639 their house so is there more to it now 2255 01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:20,400 if because we're talking about putting 2256 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:25,639 gates up for the parking lot well Brian you've discussed this with him so 2257 01:42:25,639 --> 01:42:27,119 why don't we let Brian get his report 2258 01:42:27,119 --> 01:42:29,800 done first and then we'll see yeah and 2259 01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,159 if I could just add to it too mayor have 2260 01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:34,199 we thought about making from Front 2261 01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:35,760 Street and this is for Brian I guess 2262 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,320 just something to think about from uh 2263 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:39,719 making it from Front Street to the 2264 01:42:39,719 --> 01:42:42,360 laneway into the little park one 2265 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:44,880 way and that I'm sure I'm sure he'll be 2266 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,719 looking at all those different type 2267 01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:48,280 things it would sign of solve all the 2268 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,560 lights flashing into their house 2269 01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,480 I'm sure he's looking at it okay okay 2270 01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:59,669 we're gonna move 2271 01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:02,199 on all in 2272 01:43:02,199 --> 01:43:17,950 favor 2273 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,199 Carri next we have the public works 2274 01:43:20,199 --> 01:43:21,880 department update be resolved the 2275 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,440 council oh Brian go 2276 01:43:24,440 --> 01:43:27,040 ahead yes uh threeyear mayor logal and 2277 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,679 member of council this is my uh depart 2278 01:43:29,679 --> 01:43:32,080 update for the the past uh since last 2279 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,119 meeting as well as in future I've 2280 01:43:34,119 --> 01:43:36,599 highlighted some of the the the major 2281 01:43:36,599 --> 01:43:38,159 items that's happened in the department 2282 01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:41,239 as well as moving forward um one thing I 2283 01:43:41,239 --> 01:43:43,520 will comment on is we're currently our 2284 01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,239 last construction cap project is the 2285 01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:48,239 bevon ridge where staff is currently up 2286 01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:50,320 there right now uh doing the ditching 2287 01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,560 and rating to have that um last Road 2288 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,360 done as our Capital Roose project so I 2289 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,440 would comment on that um and I can 2290 01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:00,119 answer any questions uh the council has 2291 01:44:00,119 --> 01:44:02,360 many other things in my 2292 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,880 report okay I'll read the resolution be 2293 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,599 resolved the Council of the township AL 2294 01:44:06,599 --> 01:44:08,800 C received for information the public 2295 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,000 works department update report dated 2296 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,360 October 3rd 2297 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,760 2023 from the manager of Public Works 2298 01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,199 Parks and Recreation Brian McMillan and 2299 01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:19,880 I guess I'll take the first opportunity 2300 01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,080 Brian I know we' been working real hard 2301 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,719 with the uh contractors and getting a 2302 01:44:24,719 --> 01:44:28,000 lot of the trees taken out the uh dead 2303 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,880 trees I expect those are most Emerald 2304 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,560 Ash are we are we going to be faced with 2305 01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,199 the same uh issues and cost next year or 2306 01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:38,950 you think we're making some 2307 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,239 Headway yep sorry three uh yes we have 2308 01:44:43,239 --> 01:44:45,840 our budget actually I think top is 2309 01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,560 around $ 110 $120,000 in our 2310 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,239 2023 uh operational cost and I think 2311 01:44:51,239 --> 01:44:53,080 we're getting close to having that used 2312 01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,639 up here probably used up by the end of 2313 01:44:55,639 --> 01:44:59,159 October um do I see the same amount I 2314 01:44:59,159 --> 01:45:01,040 think we'll see a decrease a little bit 2315 01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,040 uh we did do quite a bit this year I 2316 01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,679 can't see an increase but uh again I'm 2317 01:45:05,679 --> 01:45:07,599 starting to work on the budget here now 2318 01:45:07,599 --> 01:45:10,040 um but there still is more we kind of 2319 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,320 went from a a liability perspective and 2320 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:13,719 kind of went to the high risk High 2321 01:45:13,719 --> 01:45:16,119 danger ones that we had calls from or 2322 01:45:16,119 --> 01:45:17,719 ones that were you know really close to 2323 01:45:17,719 --> 01:45:19,560 Road there's a danger of you know coming 2324 01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,280 across Road or fing onto the road so 2325 01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,119 we've got a lot of the a lot of those 2326 01:45:24,119 --> 01:45:26,560 down but there still is more and uh your 2327 01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,360 comment about the Emeral Ash that is 2328 01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:32,119 probably 80% to 85% of be the trees that 2329 01:45:32,119 --> 01:45:34,800 we put down was from the Amirage that 2330 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,239 you know hel the trees so you know I I 2331 01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:40,440 I've seen a big effort from your team to 2332 01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:42,679 do a lot of that type stuff and and I'm 2333 01:45:42,679 --> 01:45:44,719 not getting the complaints that I'm not 2334 01:45:44,719 --> 01:45:46,599 hearing the ones that I was getting six 2335 01:45:46,599 --> 01:45:49,199 or eight months ago so kudos to and your 2336 01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:51,599 team thank you any other questions or 2337 01:45:51,599 --> 01:45:54,199 comments go ahead deputy mayor uh 2338 01:45:54,199 --> 01:45:57,960 through you mayor logal to Brian 2339 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:02,360 um are you uh caught up on your ditching 2340 01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,800 uh the different properties that you 2341 01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,669 were going to be 2342 01:46:06,679 --> 01:46:09,040 ditching go ahead Brian yes yep three 2343 01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,719 your mayor logal yes Deputy Mayor um 2344 01:46:11,719 --> 01:46:13,880 we're again I just mentioned we're up on 2345 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,320 uh bav Ridge finished our last Capital 2346 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,920 project I've got a crew up there but I 2347 01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:20,760 also have another crew currently in the 2348 01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,040 north and they're working on uh what 2349 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,520 you're talking about some other ditching 2350 01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,639 maintenance that have been uh called in 2351 01:46:27,639 --> 01:46:29,119 before so we're currently working on 2352 01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:30,760 them and we plan on working on those 2353 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,679 projects now till uh you know the snow 2354 01:46:33,679 --> 01:46:35,480 flies and stays kind of thing so the 2355 01:46:35,480 --> 01:46:38,080 next couple months the majority of our 2356 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,840 little ditching uh will get done that we 2357 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,560 had our list but then that list is going 2358 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,800 to continue on for years and years but 2359 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,840 we're going to get the the ones that are 2360 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:46,960 causing us problems right now where 2361 01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,880 people have called in first Deputy Mayor 2362 01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,400 would you be able to put a list uh do 2363 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,119 you have a list that you could publish 2364 01:46:54,119 --> 01:46:57,639 so people would know that you are going 2365 01:46:57,639 --> 01:47:00,520 to be doing that this 2366 01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,560 year I can put the my next report here 2367 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,480 coming up I can uh put down the roads 2368 01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:07,599 we've did and the ones we're going to do 2369 01:47:07,599 --> 01:47:10,000 in the future yes I could for sure thank 2370 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,800 you thanks Brian go ahead Greg through 2371 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,679 you your worship to Brian Brian just two 2372 01:47:15,679 --> 01:47:18,040 quick questions you talk about the speed 2373 01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,520 data equipment and you're awaiting 2374 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,239 training so do you have a date yet of 2375 01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:24,599 when they're going to come and train the 2376 01:47:24,599 --> 01:47:27,599 staff I don't have a date I know I seen 2377 01:47:27,599 --> 01:47:30,080 an email earlier from uh from Susan was 2378 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,320 sending off to um company at Port Perry 2379 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,639 I can think of the name right now but uh 2380 01:47:35,639 --> 01:47:37,840 we have had a couple uhing sessions 2381 01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,719 booked uh we had to cancel maram once 2382 01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:43,000 they had to cancel um I would think it'd 2383 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,520 be the next two weeks uh you know Greg 2384 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,280 maybe as early as uh the end of next 2385 01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:48,960 week I would say and that's for the 2386 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,280 black hatat equipment that's that's the 2387 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,840 new one that were purchased uh this year 2388 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,800 as well as the older one we had with the 2389 01:47:55,800 --> 01:48:02,350 software upgrade um it's you know it's 2390 01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,199 hour the black before 2391 01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:07,679 and here with the the black cat that 2392 01:48:07,679 --> 01:48:11,520 municipality had um the op used them up 2393 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,119 so um again we do do this training and 2394 01:48:14,119 --> 01:48:15,440 again hopefully we can get a book right 2395 01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:17,239 next week and we can get using 2396 01:48:17,239 --> 01:48:19,880 it okay thank you and my second question 2397 01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,080 is I know coming into the meeting I saw 2398 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:26,280 your staff at bevon Ridge Road so has uh 2399 01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,719 the rest of that road been completed by 2400 01:48:28,719 --> 01:48:31,119 the contractor that was given permission 2401 01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:34,280 to do that I'm going to say past Council 2402 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,239 probably four years ago three years ago 2403 01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:37,800 did he finish 2404 01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,280 that uh threee mayor logo uh no 2405 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,400 counselor Booth that's not complete yet 2406 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,639 uh we're working on our part from the 2407 01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:47,080 current uh all year round Road allowance 2408 01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,719 we're doing that work and I'm still on 2409 01:48:49,719 --> 01:48:51,520 the contract contractor and the owner to 2410 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,440 get that completed uh hopefully by the 2411 01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:54,920 end of the year it's still it's not 2412 01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,800 complete no so that that could possibly 2413 01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,760 be an issue with us than Brian because I 2414 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,440 know you were holding off doing that 2415 01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:03,960 road because he's going to move heavy 2416 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:05,880 construction stuff on there to finish 2417 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,119 his so they're going to drive over our 2418 01:49:08,119 --> 01:49:09,719 road now that's all finished and 2419 01:49:09,719 --> 01:49:12,480 possibly damage what your crew is doing 2420 01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:15,239 now go ahead Brian um y three year M 2421 01:49:15,239 --> 01:49:17,400 logo um I was kind of concerned with 2422 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,840 this earlier on counselor Booth but um 2423 01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:21,760 where we stopping the construction up 2424 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,800 top uh there's room for them when the 2425 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,639 contractors are going to drive from um 2426 01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:28,560 thoughts line up straight and they won't 2427 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,360 be turning or moving around on the new 2428 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,920 road so they'll be they'll be turning 2429 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,599 equipment around beyond our construction 2430 01:49:33,599 --> 01:49:35,920 point so I have no concerns with a new 2431 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,360 road being wrecked okay thank 2432 01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,199 you Mike did you have a comment yeah to 2433 01:49:42,199 --> 01:49:43,639 you mayor lo I just wonder if we taken 2434 01:49:43,639 --> 01:49:46,000 over the Glen of a and subdivisions yet 2435 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,560 that road they're the street going 2436 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,080 through there go ahead Brian uh yes sure 2437 01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,320 you mayor logo yes Council rinworth our 2438 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,360 consultant uh that are doing the peer 2439 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:59,159 review of the work done by the developer 2440 01:49:59,159 --> 01:50:01,119 and the report from their consultant is 2441 01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:03,280 currently being reviewed I don't have a 2442 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,400 time frame I would hope think it would 2443 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,679 be before um December 1st I could didn't 2444 01:50:08,679 --> 01:50:11,199 throw that date out but our peer review 2445 01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:13,119 consultant is working with their 2446 01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:15,199 consultant to make sure that whatever 2447 01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:17,280 was in the original subject agreement 2448 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:18,760 there was an agreement with the 2449 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,040 developer and municipality that all the 2450 01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,040 stuff is met uh because once we do 2451 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,119 assume uh similar to we did up in the 2452 01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:26,599 north or not too long ago with the other 2453 01:50:26,599 --> 01:50:28,800 subdivision uh the township takes over 2454 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,000 responsible any for anything that wasn't 2455 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,400 completed correctly so we're trying to 2456 01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,920 tie up the Loose Ends uh right now uh to 2457 01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:39,400 get that done so hopefully soon later I 2458 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,000 can follow up so and and get something 2459 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:42,599 back to you maybe just a quick email let 2460 01:50:42,599 --> 01:50:44,199 you know when that's going to happen but 2461 01:50:44,199 --> 01:50:47,760 is in the process counsel worth okay 2462 01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,840 thanks any further further questions 2463 01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,800 comments all in 2464 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,960 favor motions 2465 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,199 carried oh no sorry I better read the 2466 01:50:59,199 --> 01:51:01,400 resolution then we resolve that the 2467 01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,360 Council of the township of Al mman 2468 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:04,760 received for information the public 2469 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,000 works department update report dated 2470 01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:08,239 October 3rd 2471 01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:11,280 2023 for the manage manager of Public 2472 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,239 Works Parks and Recreation Brian 2473 01:51:13,239 --> 01:51:15,440 McMillan ruber 2474 01:51:15,440 --> 01:51:17,760 seconder moved by Deputy Mayor ster 2475 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,079 second by Council anworth further 2476 01:51:20,079 --> 01:51:24,119 discussion all in favor motions carried 2477 01:51:24,119 --> 01:51:27,280 and if uh Council allow me I'd like to 2478 01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,320 do one more and that's the pars and 2479 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,280 Recreation and then then Brian and his 2480 01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,960 team will be probably done we can do 2481 01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:35,480 that 2482 01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:38,760 one and and uh Jennifer's I'm sure is 2483 01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:39,639 there 2484 01:51:39,639 --> 01:51:42,360 too good afternoon Jennifer you want to 2485 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,480 take us through your 2486 01:51:44,480 --> 01:51:48,599 report sure good afternoon mayor logal 2487 01:51:48,599 --> 01:51:51,159 um through you I'll just highlight a 2488 01:51:51,159 --> 01:51:53,079 couple things in my report and then I'm 2489 01:51:53,079 --> 01:51:55,719 happy to answer any questions um so 2490 01:51:55,719 --> 01:51:57,360 you'll see that there's a update on the 2491 01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:00,760 rink seal Pro being um installed at the 2492 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:02,960 arena and that has been 2493 01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,320 successful um so it has filled in the 2494 01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,400 leaks or any uh leak that we did have in 2495 01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,639 the system and the ice operations and 2496 01:52:10,639 --> 01:52:13,320 rentals can proceed as usual for the 2497 01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,760 2023 2024 season and those rentals begin 2498 01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:20,000 on October 10th um currently I 2499 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,199 approximately 32 hours of prime time 2500 01:52:22,199 --> 01:52:24,520 hours booked and I'm just finalizing 2501 01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,880 that schedule this week and then we'll 2502 01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,440 fill in with um programming hours as 2503 01:52:30,440 --> 01:52:32,079 well like public 2504 01:52:32,079 --> 01:52:36,079 skating also um there's two surveys out 2505 01:52:36,079 --> 01:52:39,040 now one is um our Township survey on 2506 01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,360 let's talk onwi halman just looking for 2507 01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:44,079 some feedback on our summer events and 2508 01:52:44,079 --> 01:52:47,440 programming so that's still um available 2509 01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,599 and I just encouraged you um to mention 2510 01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:52,920 it and get the word out there the other 2511 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,199 one is the north umberland 2512 01:52:54,199 --> 01:52:57,159 Communications survey and that is online 2513 01:52:57,159 --> 01:53:01,480 until October 10th so again um it'd be 2514 01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:03,119 great just to get that information get 2515 01:53:03,119 --> 01:53:04,480 that out there to the communities and 2516 01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:05,800 know they can take the survey and 2517 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,040 hopefully get a good response 2518 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,440 there so happy to answer any questions 2519 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:13,079 I'll read the resolution first be 2520 01:53:13,079 --> 01:53:15,040 resolve that the council received the 2521 01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,400 parks recreation and cultural update 2522 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,400 report from Parks Recreation and 2523 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,400 cultural coordinator Jennifer Steen 2524 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,400 dated October 3rd 2525 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,800 2023 moving to second moov by counselor 2526 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,840 Booth second by councelor inworth any 2527 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,440 discussion councelor boo through your 2528 01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:33,040 worship to Jennifer Jennifer you said 2529 01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,239 you have 32 hours of prime time booked 2530 01:53:36,239 --> 01:53:37,880 that's out of how many hours how many 2531 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,480 hours is prime time at the 2532 01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:44,360 arena a week right it's a week it and 2533 01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,199 the weekends are considered prime time 2534 01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:50,800 um so it's after 4 pm during the week 2535 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,800 days and all day Saturday all day 2536 01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,719 Sunday so I don't have it in front of me 2537 01:53:57,719 --> 01:54:01,440 but is it 4 to 11 or 4 to 12 on a week 4 2538 01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:07,000 to 11 so seven hours so that's 5times 7 2539 01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,159 and what do you count as Prime Time on a 2540 01:54:09,159 --> 01:54:12,079 Saturday and a Sunday all day all day so 2541 01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:16,119 it would be from you know 8:00 am to 2542 01:54:16,119 --> 01:54:18,669 11:00 2543 01:54:18,679 --> 01:54:23,510 P.M 2544 01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,239 well 2545 01:54:25,239 --> 01:54:27,719 1530 so that's that's not a very 2546 01:54:27,719 --> 01:54:31,280 impressive number than the majority yeah 2547 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,480 the major if we took out the Saturday 2548 01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,520 and Sunday um it it would be the 2549 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,440 majority of the prime time hours that 2550 01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,360 are booked are are are week nights and 2551 01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,320 that's what most um leagues and other 2552 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:48,440 users are looking for so I can say from 2553 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,360 Monday through Friday we we are are 2554 01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:53,079 booked from 5:00 p.m. till 10 p.m. or 2555 01:54:53,079 --> 01:54:57,639 11:00 p.m. Mo um almost every night uh 2556 01:54:57,639 --> 01:54:59,920 our Saturdays typically we've in the 2557 01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:02,480 past we've always left Saturdays open 2558 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:06,079 for tournaments and we currently have oh 2559 01:55:06,079 --> 01:55:08,119 I think six tournaments booked for the 2560 01:55:08,119 --> 01:55:13,920 2023 2024 season um this year we do have 2561 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,119 I have put rentals in there as well so 2562 01:55:16,119 --> 01:55:18,520 we do have from 10:00 a.m. to 1: p.m. 2563 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,639 booked every Saturday 2564 01:55:20,639 --> 01:55:22,639 um as well 2565 01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:27,199 as six hours currently booked every 2566 01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:30,360 Sunday well is that is that part of your 2567 01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:31,639 35 2568 01:55:31,639 --> 01:55:34,440 hours yes 2569 01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,679 okay so a question for you the rentals 2570 01:55:37,679 --> 01:55:39,760 that are that are renting Saturday then 2571 01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,079 from I think you said 10 to 1 or 11: 2572 01:55:42,079 --> 01:55:45,840 till 1 are they are they is it in their 2573 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,199 contract that they're cancelled if 2574 01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:49,880 there's a tournament on a Saturday or or 2575 01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,599 is that a lead or something through you 2576 01:55:52,599 --> 01:55:55,280 mayor logo so um these are extra ice 2577 01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:57,280 times that user groups are picking up 2578 01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:00,920 and they have been told that those um 2579 01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,079 that those Saturdays we do have 2580 01:56:03,079 --> 01:56:05,639 tournaments and I'll either bump them 2581 01:56:05,639 --> 01:56:07,639 off if we can um some of our tournaments 2582 01:56:07,639 --> 01:56:10,480 are only four to six hours and um one 2583 01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,560 tournament is is agreed to go later in 2584 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,960 the day so they'll start after 1 p.m. 2585 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,480 otherwise I'll bump the um the regular 2586 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:22,040 rentals up to earlier the day okay thank 2587 01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,920 you Deputy Mir through you mayor logo uh 2588 01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:30,599 Jennifer what plan do you have to uh 2589 01:56:30,599 --> 01:56:34,320 Market this and get the numbers up for 2590 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:37,069 the 2591 01:56:37,079 --> 01:56:39,679 skating through you mayor loo for the 2592 01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:42,119 public the public skating drop in 2593 01:56:42,119 --> 01:56:46,040 programs or for available rentals yeah 2594 01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,480 available rentals it would be um any 2595 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,079 Gambit I guess 2596 01:56:50,079 --> 01:56:52,040 uh because we really have to get those 2597 01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,669 numbers 2598 01:56:54,679 --> 01:56:57,719 up I uh through you mayor logal um I 2599 01:56:57,719 --> 01:56:58,920 think once we have the schedule 2600 01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:00,480 finalized so I'm still talking with a 2601 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,119 number of groups trying to fit them in 2602 01:57:02,119 --> 01:57:04,880 like I said most of our our requests 2603 01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,199 come for week night hours and we are 2604 01:57:07,199 --> 01:57:10,599 booked from 5:00 pm to 11 pm Monday 2605 01:57:10,599 --> 01:57:11,520 through 2606 01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,639 Friday um 2607 01:57:13,639 --> 01:57:17,000 so really our only available hours are 2608 01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:21,360 Saturdays and Sundays and I try to um 2609 01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,760 let everybody know that that calls um 2610 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,000 unfortunately a lot of groups are 2611 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,440 looking for those weeknight hours so 2612 01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,760 once the schedule's finalized we can it 2613 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,280 can be posted out there and um that 2614 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:35,440 through on our website as well as social 2615 01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,920 media and that way anybody can easily 2616 01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,280 look at and see if if there's hours that 2617 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,800 they're interested in 2618 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,239 um also any like birthday parties or 2619 01:57:45,239 --> 01:57:47,840 things like that um you know they come 2620 01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,920 in on a Saturday and Sunday as as well 2621 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,199 go ahead um three your M logo just a 2622 01:57:53,199 --> 01:57:55,040 couple things one more question with 2623 01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:57,719 this I know some uh young kids are 2624 01:57:57,719 --> 01:58:01,159 getting out of bed at five o'clock to 2625 01:58:01,159 --> 01:58:03,840 skate what is the earliest time that you 2626 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,440 would rent uh the ice 2627 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,360 for in the day would you would you look 2628 01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:13,760 at a six o'clock or 7 o'clock AM 2629 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,440 skate through you mayor loal so I i' 2630 01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,079 have I would have to see I guess if we 2631 01:58:18,079 --> 01:58:20,159 got a request I haven't received CE a a 2632 01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:22,320 request for that early um since I've 2633 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,800 been here typically our staff work start 2634 01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:28,400 work at 700 a.m. so we have had um 2635 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,159 rentals at 7 AM before um but nothing 2636 01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:34,719 earlier than that but we would certainly 2637 01:58:34,719 --> 01:58:36,520 see if we could accommodate those 2638 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,360 requests if they came 2639 01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:42,239 in and and just one more uh mayor logal 2640 01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:45,920 uh Jen uh what um are all the plans in 2641 01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:49,679 place for the finel concert I'm just not 2642 01:58:49,679 --> 01:58:54,069 sure what is expected of the 2643 01:58:54,079 --> 01:58:56,639 municipality through you mayor logal yes 2644 01:58:56,639 --> 01:58:59,119 I've been in constant contact with um 2645 01:58:59,119 --> 01:59:00,599 representatives from the Ontario 2646 01:59:00,599 --> 01:59:04,040 Festival of small halls and um councelor 2647 01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,000 O'Neal has agreed to be um kind of a 2648 01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,440 Township Ambassador um at that event as 2649 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,880 well and then our staff will make sure 2650 01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,920 that the tables and chairs are and they 2651 01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,000 have everything we need but I've been in 2652 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:18,679 contact with them and it's really just 2653 01:59:18,679 --> 01:59:20,440 they need access to the venue and 2654 01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:21,960 everything else that we'll have there 2655 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,599 ready for them and they take care of 2656 01:59:24,599 --> 01:59:28,760 everything else are the tickets uh going 2657 01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,880 well um yeah they handle the tickets um 2658 01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:33,679 the Ontario Festival small Halls so I'm 2659 01:59:33,679 --> 01:59:35,400 not sure exactly I know there're still 2660 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:37,800 tickets available it's not sold out 2661 01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:42,069 yet thank 2662 01:59:42,079 --> 01:59:45,520 you go ahead counselor Booth I guess one 2663 01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,000 more quick question for you maybe you 2664 01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:48,840 can explain it's on your report where it 2665 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,119 says that that there's a resolution from 2666 01:59:51,119 --> 01:59:53,639 the committee from the July 24th meeting 2667 01:59:53,639 --> 01:59:56,199 regarding recommending that an ad hoc 2668 01:59:56,199 --> 01:59:58,480 working group be established to discuss 2669 01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:02,189 the rosneath fairgrounds 2670 02:00:02,199 --> 02:00:04,800 agreement is that coming to council then 2671 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:07,880 for for us to discuss or 2672 02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:12,320 we we're just receiving this information 2673 02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,320 right that doesn't mean that we've 2674 02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:16,199 agreed to anything like that is it I 2675 02:00:16,199 --> 02:00:18,119 don't know well I I think if we're 2676 02:00:18,119 --> 02:00:19,880 approving the minutes 2677 02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:22,560 and that's a part of the agreement or 2678 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:23,920 Pardon Me part of the minutes that 2679 02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,719 they've made that motion then then we're 2680 02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:28,679 agreeing that we're going to do that 2681 02:00:28,679 --> 02:00:30,440 okay I guess I'm I guess I'm not 2682 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:32,400 comfortable with doing that well either 2683 02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,320 am I because I'm I'm going to mention 2684 02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:38,320 further along in our agenda under 152 we 2685 02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:41,880 have an update from the CAO regarding 2686 02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:43,920 putting a moratorium on all committee 2687 02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,280 meetings and subcommittees and stuff 2688 02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:49,159 like that and if we're talking about 2689 02:00:49,159 --> 02:00:51,599 ending all of that with from Dave Dawson 2690 02:00:51,599 --> 02:00:53,800 here we're looking at here saying that 2691 02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,280 we want to form a committee and I don't 2692 02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,159 think in all of my time we've ever had 2693 02:00:58,159 --> 02:01:00,920 an ad hoc committee working with staff 2694 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:03,199 on an agreement with a private rental 2695 02:01:03,199 --> 02:01:05,280 group or that which 2696 02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,599 is go ahead sorry Greg through through 2697 02:01:08,599 --> 02:01:10,960 your mayor log um that item was removed 2698 02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:13,550 from the 2699 02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:18,040 agenda the snack bar was not not 2700 02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:21,950 this 2701 02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:24,040 that was the no it's in this one here 2702 02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,520 yeah no the canteen report was and if I 2703 02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,960 may through you mayor um so this 2704 02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:34,880 resolution that uh that was um with Jen 2705 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,159 ste's report is to receive this report 2706 02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:40,239 for information there was that 2707 02:01:40,239 --> 02:01:41,800 recommendation in there from the 2708 02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:44,639 committee and with this 2709 02:01:44,639 --> 02:01:49,360 resolution that is not um approving the 2710 02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,639 recommendation from the committee it is 2711 02:01:51,639 --> 02:01:55,280 simply receiving for information okay 2712 02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,719 good okay thank you so either a member 2713 02:01:57,719 --> 02:01:59,239 of that committee can bring it up and we 2714 02:01:59,239 --> 02:02:01,880 can discuss it 2715 02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:05,159 then joh yes go ahead like through you 2716 02:02:05,159 --> 02:02:06,840 mayor so are we going to talk about the 2717 02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:09,159 canteen no it's been removed it's been 2718 02:02:09,159 --> 02:02:10,360 removed the 2719 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,920 canteen we we com we're going to finish 2720 02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:16,040 this one first yeah okay so did I can I 2721 02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:17,960 get aov 2722 02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:20,599 second 2723 02:02:20,599 --> 02:02:22,440 yeah 2724 02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:26,159 John one just one more on on the it's 2725 02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:28,159 not on the report but I wondered like in 2726 02:02:28,159 --> 02:02:29,520 our budget we're supposed to be looking 2727 02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,360 at bleachers getting replaced and 2728 02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:32,880 lawnmowers getting replaced is there 2729 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:34,880 anything coming down to shoot sometime 2730 02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:36,440 in that is it going to be this year next 2731 02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,280 year that's going to happen my 2732 02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,840 understanding is uh at least for more 2733 02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,760 that RFP was received the 2734 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:49,280 are for for a Lawn Lawn more the trct 2735 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,199 tracted pardon me but sorry you were 2736 02:02:51,199 --> 02:02:52,719 mentioning leers 2737 02:02:52,719 --> 02:02:56,760 c yeah he mentioned both both yeah yeah 2738 02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,320 the tractor we uh my understanding is we 2739 02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:03,800 received a uh the tender Clos to the 2740 02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,679 Tractor 2741 02:03:06,679 --> 02:03:09,840 okay okay yep and the bleaches will come 2742 02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,719 later on like I I 2743 02:03:12,719 --> 02:03:15,000 my understand is Brian still there Brian 2744 02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,360 go ahead why my guess I'll speak to 2745 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:20,320 again uh there mentioned that uh or 2746 02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:21,880 mayor did too as well that the tender 2747 02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:24,199 for the tractor did close on on Friday 2748 02:03:24,199 --> 02:03:26,679 for the tractor for the ball fields um 2749 02:03:26,679 --> 02:03:28,079 the bleachers is gonna be something come 2750 02:03:28,079 --> 02:03:30,960 back to council near meeting to uh put 2751 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,079 that money reserve and uh to get the 2752 02:03:33,079 --> 02:03:36,560 bleachers uh next year in 2024 um with 2753 02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,119 more detail of why we're doing that 2754 02:03:38,119 --> 02:03:39,800 it'll be in that report but the bleach 2755 02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:42,400 were going to be uh not purchased uh 2756 02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,480 this year I can uh describe that in the 2757 02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:47,870 next report to 2758 02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:51,149 you 2759 02:03:51,159 --> 02:03:51,960 thank you 2760 02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:55,280 Brian we got move 2761 02:03:55,280 --> 02:04:03,639 second just second 141 we've completed okay okay I would 2762 02:04:03,639 --> 02:04:08,079 take a motion that we re for 10 2763 02:04:08,079 --> 02:04:10,559 minutes we had a move in a second but we 2764 02:04:10,559 --> 02:04:12,520 didn't vote on it yet I spoke first on 2765 02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:15,360 it got off track all in 2766 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:18,639 favor Carri I would take a motion that 2767 02:04:18,639 --> 02:04:22,119 we can re uh recess for 10 2768 02:04:22,119 --> 02:04:24,599 minutes move by Deputy Mayor stobber 2769 02:04:24,599 --> 02:04:28,320 seconded by counselor Booth all in favor 2770 02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:31,920 then we'll be back at uh 2771 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:36,589 3:27 give me extra three 2772 02:04:36,599 --> 02:04:38,880 minutes okay Council has returned from 2773 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,679 break I need a move in a second or to go 2774 02:04:40,679 --> 02:04:43,880 back to uh to work approv by councel 2775 02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,040 answorth seconded by councelor Ruth all 2776 02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:49,400 in favor motion's carried and the next 2777 02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:52,559 one we have is U actually we're not 2778 02:04:52,559 --> 02:04:54,199 going to have it apparently but the 2779 02:04:54,199 --> 02:04:55,280 there was 2780 02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:59,000 142 uh the arena canteen update report 2781 02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:00,639 from Parks Recreation and culture 2782 02:05:00,639 --> 02:05:02,400 coordinator and I believe ncy you had a 2783 02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:07,709 quick comment on 2784 02:05:07,719 --> 02:05:10,280 that thank you through through you mayor 2785 02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:14,159 Lo logal um this report uh came forward 2786 02:05:14,159 --> 02:05:16,960 and it was uh published initially on the 2787 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,559 agenda as you probably are aware of um 2788 02:05:20,559 --> 02:05:24,000 it does uh speak to some operational 2789 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,840 matters that can probably be implemented 2790 02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:30,079 strictly through uh the the day-to-day 2791 02:05:30,079 --> 02:05:32,599 operations without affecting the budget 2792 02:05:32,599 --> 02:05:33,880 um 2793 02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:38,920 so the decision was made to pull it 2794 02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:42,320 okay and it come up again is it coming 2795 02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:44,400 up again 2796 02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,199 or go ahead Greg then I guess I have a 2797 02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:49,880 question is uh is Staff going through 2798 02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:51,159 and they're going to implement this 2799 02:05:51,159 --> 02:05:53,320 without it coming to council 2800 02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,400 or because that sounds like if you're 2801 02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:56,960 pulling it it means that you're going to 2802 02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,440 make it an operational thing and it's 2803 02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:00,239 and I'd like to discuss it if we're 2804 02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:01,840 talking about the snack bar because this 2805 02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,719 was a hot issue with the last Council 2806 02:06:03,719 --> 02:06:06,320 where we subsidize the canteen for 2807 02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:12,430 $6,500 a year 2808 02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:14,760 almost I would like the opportunity to 2809 02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:16,639 discuss it with staff I have a 2810 02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:18,199 conversation and a meeting set up with 2811 02:06:18,199 --> 02:06:19,199 Jennifer 2812 02:06:19,199 --> 02:06:21,280 tomorrow and we'll be discussing that 2813 02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:22,719 and we can come back to council with 2814 02:06:22,719 --> 02:06:25,199 some information um the plan that had 2815 02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:27,079 put forward was to have non-perishable 2816 02:06:27,079 --> 02:06:31,239 foods available um the request was to 2817 02:06:31,239 --> 02:06:34,079 operate at a zero budget impact so I 2818 02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:35,559 just want to have that conversation and 2819 02:06:35,559 --> 02:06:37,119 then we can come back to how that's 2820 02:06:37,119 --> 02:06:38,159 going to 2821 02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:41,760 work okay so does that mean you'll come 2822 02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,520 back to us before implementing it or if 2823 02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:46,639 discussions with her you'll implement it 2824 02:06:46,639 --> 02:06:50,679 and then come back and tell us that it's started no problem to come back 2825 02:06:50,679 --> 02:06:53,000 with Council if you'd like before you 2826 02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:56,159 implement it yeah because the the report 2827 02:06:56,159 --> 02:06:58,119 just to make a quick comment is a little 2828 02:06:58,119 --> 02:06:59,800 deceiving because it says there's no 2829 02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:02,159 Financial impact and there's not the 2830 02:07:02,159 --> 02:07:04,199 staff there is going to look after it 2831 02:07:04,199 --> 02:07:06,119 but that staff that is there to move 2832 02:07:06,119 --> 02:07:08,679 Nets clean dressing rooms go outside and 2833 02:07:08,679 --> 02:07:11,199 shovel snow will not be doing that if 2834 02:07:11,199 --> 02:07:12,800 they're sitting there selling a 2835 02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:16,239 chocolate bar or a cup of coffee so just 2836 02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:17,520 my 2837 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,520 point 2838 02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:24,480 M um I'm just going to respectfully 2839 02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:27,119 acknowledge what our clerk said to us I 2840 02:07:27,119 --> 02:07:30,119 believe this is a management issue and 2841 02:07:30,119 --> 02:07:32,880 that's it makes sense that when 2842 02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:34,639 management decisions are being made 2843 02:07:34,639 --> 02:07:38,549 they're made by 2844 02:07:38,559 --> 02:07:41,559 management 2845 02:07:41,559 --> 02:07:47,510 okay we'll move 2846 02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:50,950 on 2847 02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:52,440 thank 2848 02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:54,679 you item 2849 02:07:54,679 --> 02:07:57,280 151 for those of you who may have 2850 02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,840 reviewed the council agenda package when 2851 02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,239 it was published last week the 2852 02:08:02,239 --> 02:08:06,239 2023 draft meeting calendar attachment 2853 02:08:06,239 --> 02:08:08,520 was since replaced due to a typle the 2854 02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,159 new attachment shows the months of 2855 02:08:10,159 --> 02:08:12,480 October November and December and the 2856 02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:14,199 recommendations for meeting dates for 2857 02:08:14,199 --> 02:08:17,440 the remainder of the Year this 2858 02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,950 year 2859 02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:22,559 so I'll read the resolution whereas 2860 02:08:22,559 --> 02:08:25,159 Council reviewed the information 2861 02:08:25,159 --> 02:08:26,880 containing in the council meeting 2862 02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:29,280 schedule recommendations report dated 2863 02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:30,599 October 3rd 2864 02:08:30,599 --> 02:08:33,239 2023 it resolved that the council 2865 02:08:33,239 --> 02:08:35,320 approved the recommendations contained 2866 02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:37,360 within the report regarding changes to 2867 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:39,920 the council meeting schedule for October 2868 02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:41,639 November and December of 2869 02:08:41,639 --> 02:08:44,440 2023 and further be it resolved that the 2870 02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:46,360 council approved the recommendations 2871 02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:48,520 contained within the report regarding 2872 02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:50,760 ing changes to the council meeting 2873 02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:57,510 scheduled for January to December 2874 02:08:57,520 --> 02:09:02,589 2024 who GNA lead us through 2875 02:09:02,599 --> 02:09:05,920 this thank you through you mayor logal 2876 02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,159 um I think the report is fairly 2877 02:09:08,159 --> 02:09:11,320 self-explanatory but I certainly um 2878 02:09:11,320 --> 02:09:15,119 welcome any questions that Council may 2879 02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:17,639 have any questions or comments go ahead 2880 02:09:17,639 --> 02:09:20,840 m cman um mine is in fact just a comment 2881 02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:23,559 so I am very supportive of this in the 2882 02:09:23,559 --> 02:09:26,679 sense that its goal is to improve sta 2883 02:09:26,679 --> 02:09:28,440 productivity and I just want to 2884 02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:30,199 acknowledge to our fellow counselors 2885 02:09:30,199 --> 02:09:34,040 that um when we first came on we wanted 2886 02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:35,880 to make sure we were including the 2887 02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,280 public and that was part of the changes 2888 02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,559 that we made but I actually think 2889 02:09:40,559 --> 02:09:43,880 there's better ways to um include the 2890 02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:46,800 public and I think of the public meeting 2891 02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,880 we had about the new Dan for and how 2892 02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:50,800 those comments came forward that was a 2893 02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,920 very I felt a very constructive way to 2894 02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:55,960 be getting public comment coming forward 2895 02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:58,400 so there's different ways in our regular 2896 02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:03,559 meetings to get the public involved and we might want to be considering some 2897 02:10:03,559 --> 02:10:05,559 new things that I see in other 2898 02:10:05,559 --> 02:10:07,719 municipalities where there's you know 2899 02:10:07,719 --> 02:10:09,840 coffee with the mayor time those types 2900 02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:12,679 of things where we get a chance and you 2901 02:10:12,679 --> 02:10:16,960 know or counselor O'Neal time where you 2902 02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:19,840 know we are we make ourselves available 2903 02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:23,440 at a certain time and place to the 2904 02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:26,719 public any other questions or comments 2905 02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:29,440 Mike this mean when we have like a 2906 02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:30,679 regular meeting it's going to be like 2907 02:10:30,679 --> 02:10:34,229 400 2908 02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:38,079 Pages for you mayor um councilor anworth 2909 02:10:38,079 --> 02:10:40,760 it really just depends uh month-to month 2910 02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:42,840 on what items are coming forward a lot 2911 02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:45,599 of it is also dependent on the requests 2912 02:10:45,599 --> 02:10:47,559 that we get from members of council as 2913 02:10:47,559 --> 02:10:49,440 to what what reports they want to have 2914 02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,400 back so the length of an agenda is very 2915 02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:56,719 much um a moving Target okay 2916 02:10:56,719 --> 02:10:59,760 thanks what uh go ahead Greg through you 2917 02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:01,679 your worship but I guess that would be 2918 02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:05,400 my concern is um there's sometimes we're 2919 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:06,800 having two meetings a month now and 2920 02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:08,199 there's sometimes we're having four or 2921 02:11:08,199 --> 02:11:10,599 five hour meetings and if we go to one 2922 02:11:10,599 --> 02:11:12,199 meeting my concern would be that we're 2923 02:11:12,199 --> 02:11:14,360 going to be here for six or seven hours 2924 02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:16,760 and just speaking for myself after three 2925 02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:19,639 four hours your brain with a lot of this 2926 02:11:19,639 --> 02:11:22,880 stuff you know is is mush and you're not 2927 02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,079 might not be making the right decisions 2928 02:11:25,079 --> 02:11:27,440 uh I have no issue with it I I think to 2929 02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:29,800 try it but I'd really like to see you 2930 02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:31,360 know we come back maybe at the end of 2931 02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:33,000 the year if we find that we're having 2932 02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:35,960 seven eight hour meetings then you know 2933 02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:37,440 I I think we're better to split it into 2934 02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:40,079 two then that's just my 2935 02:11:40,079 --> 02:11:44,119 comment I I'll make a quick comment um 2936 02:11:44,119 --> 02:11:47,280 December pardon me October and November 2937 02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:49,599 we would normally have three meetings 2938 02:11:49,599 --> 02:11:52,520 December we would have two January we 2939 02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:54,639 would have two that's all in our 2940 02:11:54,639 --> 02:11:57,159 scheduled historically in in December 2941 02:11:57,159 --> 02:12:01,790 and 2942 02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:06,320 January sorry about that so so by doing 2943 02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:09,000 that you're really going to reduce the 2944 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:11,400 meetings for the rest of the Year by a 2945 02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,559 total of two meetings and I believe 2946 02:12:13,559 --> 02:12:16,199 personally I believe all departments and 2947 02:12:16,199 --> 02:12:18,719 particularly the clerk's department is 2948 02:12:18,719 --> 02:12:21,119 still trying to catch up from stuff from 2949 02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:23,199 last time so I don't have a problem with 2950 02:12:23,199 --> 02:12:25,599 in fact I think it's a good idea and I 2951 02:12:25,599 --> 02:12:28,159 know January we only have uh two 2952 02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:29,599 meetings in 2953 02:12:29,599 --> 02:12:31,679 January H but then we move into the 2954 02:12:31,679 --> 02:12:33,760 third one in February but my suggestion 2955 02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:35,880 would be to try it and and the other 2956 02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:37,960 part of it is I know budgets are coming 2957 02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:40,440 up in January February which does eat up 2958 02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:43,320 a enough a lot of time so my thought 2959 02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:45,480 would be to as as maybe Greg has 2960 02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:47,599 suggested give it a try for those five 2961 02:12:47,599 --> 02:12:51,960 months and then we play a premere after 2962 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:55,040 that if I may mayor will go through you 2963 02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,400 um I I don't want Council to have the 2964 02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:00,520 impression that it's going down to one 2965 02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:02,920 basic business meeting a month so with 2966 02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:04,719 the planning meeting that's 2967 02:13:04,719 --> 02:13:05,920 traditionally known as the planning 2968 02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,040 meeting at the end of the month in the 2969 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,520 past I know that there's been um a 2970 02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:13,280 concern to keep that strictly planning 2971 02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:16,920 matters but what we would do with this 2972 02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:19,159 uh proposed schedule the recommendation 2973 02:13:19,159 --> 02:13:22,159 is to have Council business after the 2974 02:13:22,159 --> 02:13:24,679 planning items at that meeting so there 2975 02:13:24,679 --> 02:13:27,280 would be half or depending on what the 2976 02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:31,480 agenda was of other Township business on 2977 02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:35,910 the quote unquote planning 2978 02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,119 agenda I'd like to make a comment on 2979 02:13:38,119 --> 02:13:41,639 that that's what we used to do up until 2980 02:13:41,639 --> 02:13:44,159 I don't know when it change but we did 2981 02:13:44,159 --> 02:13:45,800 have we but we did have three meetings 2982 02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:47,239 but some of them only lasted an hour and 2983 02:13:47,239 --> 02:13:51,520 a half but we did in fact have two 2984 02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:53,559 readings to regular and the third one 2985 02:13:53,559 --> 02:13:55,599 was a planning 2986 02:13:55,599 --> 02:14:01,470 slash uh regular 2987 02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:04,679 Council go ahead and maybe just a 2988 02:14:04,679 --> 02:14:06,119 recommendation I know I've mentioned 2989 02:14:06,119 --> 02:14:08,960 this to you before Mr CAO that if we're 2990 02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:11,280 going down to one meeting is it at all 2991 02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,000 possible that we make sure that that one 2992 02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:14,480 meeting which is going to be the second 2993 02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:17,239 Tuesday of the month right that staff be 2994 02:14:17,239 --> 02:14:18,679 here present 2995 02:14:18,679 --> 02:14:21,400 and another example was today with uh 2996 02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:23,040 some of the staff talking they're 2997 02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:25,679 garbled it's mumbled they're just up the 2998 02:14:25,679 --> 02:14:28,079 street I think if we plan it out I'm 2999 02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:29,920 sure we can that staff can come here 3000 02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:32,440 they can make their presentation we can 3001 02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:33,719 ask them anything and then they're free 3002 02:14:33,719 --> 02:14:36,159 to go instead of you know I can 3003 02:14:36,159 --> 02:14:38,440 understand if you're at home or 3004 02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:39,599 something like that or you're on a 3005 02:14:39,599 --> 02:14:41,040 conference and you do it but for you 3006 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:42,760 just to be up the street I think it's 3007 02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:44,040 only going to take a few minutes for 3008 02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:45,599 them to come here but that's just my 3009 02:14:45,599 --> 02:14:47,599 recommendation if we're streamlining 3010 02:14:47,599 --> 02:14:51,470 things 3011 02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:54,520 go ahead uh through you mayor logo uh I 3012 02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:56,880 agree with this at first I thought I was 3013 02:14:56,880 --> 02:15:00,079 a bit of a head scratcher but um I thank 3014 02:15:00,079 --> 02:15:03,400 you Nancy and uh Dave for bringing this 3015 02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:06,239 forward because I think we have to look 3016 02:15:06,239 --> 02:15:09,840 at different ways to do business and if 3017 02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:12,840 we can be more 3018 02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:16,159 efficient I think we need to put these 3019 02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:18,520 practices into place so 3020 02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:22,520 um I thank you and um 3021 02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:26,079 I I'm I'm uh in agreement with 3022 02:15:26,079 --> 02:15:30,119 this Mike uh through Mar logo so just 3023 02:15:30,119 --> 02:15:32,679 would it change the time that we would 3024 02:15:32,679 --> 02:15:37,149 get our agendas to 3025 02:15:37,159 --> 02:15:39,520 read through through you 3026 02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:42,960 mayor if that is something that Council 3027 02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:46,840 would like to discuss and direct staff I 3028 02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:48,480 I'm assuming by your your question that 3029 02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:50,119 you might want it a little earlier if 3030 02:15:50,119 --> 02:15:52,840 you think the agendas are going to be 3031 02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:55,199 heavier yeah thank that is something 3032 02:15:55,199 --> 02:15:58,119 that could definitely be accommodated 3033 02:15:58,119 --> 02:16:00,480 okay if if uh Council wishes to do that 3034 02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:03,159 for now it would still be just per the 3035 02:16:03,159 --> 02:16:05,239 procedural bya uh that would be 3036 02:16:05,239 --> 02:16:07,079 published on the Wednesday for the 3037 02:16:07,079 --> 02:16:09,040 following 3038 02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:14,559 Tuesday okay but we could change that 3039 02:16:14,559 --> 02:16:17,239 yes uh there was I'm not sure if it was 3040 02:16:17,239 --> 02:16:18,920 in this or something else but wasn't 3041 02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:24,480 there a 9:30 time T start in this report 3042 02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:27,119 so that would change the Tuesday 3043 02:16:27,119 --> 02:16:29,599 meetings till 9:30 a and the planning 3044 02:16:29,599 --> 02:16:33,040 meeting till 9:30 a.m through you mayor 3045 02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:34,960 that that's correct but anytime there is 3046 02:16:34,960 --> 02:16:37,920 a a need when staff understands that 3047 02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:39,639 there might be a particular interest or 3048 02:16:39,639 --> 02:16:41,840 an evening meeting would be beneficial 3049 02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:44,920 we can always accommodate 3050 02:16:44,920 --> 02:16:46,679 that 3051 02:16:46,679 --> 02:16:48,479 okay 3052 02:16:48,479 --> 02:16:50,120 and just to note because I thought it 3053 02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:51,679 was as simple as just going in and 3054 02:16:51,679 --> 02:16:53,359 cancelling the second meeting it's not 3055 02:16:53,359 --> 02:16:55,359 you actually have to be careful that you 3056 02:16:55,359 --> 02:16:57,160 have to go into November and that and 3057 02:16:57,160 --> 02:16:59,280 the date is now not the 7th it's the 3058 02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:02,000 14th so it's the second Tuesday of the 3059 02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:05,240 month not the first Tuesday of the month 3060 02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:06,800 or you'll have people showing up here on 3061 02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:09,160 the wrong date next month we we will 3062 02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:10,559 definitely post the schedule on the 3063 02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:12,519 website and counselors will definitely 3064 02:17:12,519 --> 02:17:13,800 have that 3065 02:17:13,800 --> 02:17:16,599 update thank 3066 02:17:16,599 --> 02:17:21,319 you no we can I read the resolution Mo 3067 02:17:21,319 --> 02:17:23,200 in a 3068 02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:27,160 second Council Ruth second by Council 3069 02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:31,750 answorth further 3070 02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:34,920 discussion Deputy Mayor you have no no 3071 02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:37,399 I'm fine okay all in favor I was ahead 3072 02:17:37,399 --> 02:17:43,509 of myself 3073 02:17:43,519 --> 02:17:46,000 car and one think other thing we didn't 3074 02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:47,719 talk about those need so I guess we're 3075 02:17:47,719 --> 02:17:50,359 not planning on going to Road 3076 02:17:50,359 --> 02:17:52,719 me that 3077 02:17:52,719 --> 02:17:55,080 would 3078 02:17:55,080 --> 02:18:01,399 uh which which I guess I'll we are virtual so hopefully 3079 02:18:01,399 --> 02:18:05,479 everybody can get them 3080 02:18:05,479 --> 02:18:08,240 vir go ahead I was going to say I think 3081 02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:10,000 you have to look at the procedural bylaw 3082 02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:11,519 I believe it's in the bylaw that we 3083 02:18:11,519 --> 02:18:13,200 actually have a meeting at rosneath 3084 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:14,479 every once in a while so that would have 3085 02:18:14,479 --> 02:18:16,519 to 3086 02:18:16,519 --> 02:18:19,160 change quite all have to change it's GNA 3087 02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:20,280 have to change for a lot of things 3088 02:18:20,280 --> 02:18:22,240 because we do say what time the meeting 3089 02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,040 start and everything it's a lot of 3090 02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:26,679 changes and and through you just on that 3091 02:18:26,679 --> 02:18:29,559 one point in terms of um having meetings 3092 02:18:29,559 --> 02:18:32,359 up at rosneath uh if there's going to be 3093 02:18:32,359 --> 02:18:34,840 a large number of people that we expect 3094 02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:36,519 who from the public who might want to 3095 02:18:36,519 --> 02:18:39,599 attend a meeting um it's difficult from 3096 02:18:39,599 --> 02:18:41,399 a couple of different perspectives to 3097 02:18:41,399 --> 02:18:45,359 have it up there um I'm quite happy to 3098 02:18:45,359 --> 02:18:47,679 um spread meetings around the township I 3099 02:18:47,679 --> 02:18:49,639 think that's that's a really good idea 3100 02:18:49,639 --> 02:18:53,840 but technology is very limited up there 3101 02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:56,479 as well as space 3102 02:18:56,479 --> 02:19:00,719 so here C I just want to reiterate that 3103 02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:03,120 I I fully agree and we need to have 3104 02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:04,599 meetings in different parts of the 3105 02:19:04,599 --> 02:19:06,639 municipality they just don't necessarily 3106 02:19:06,639 --> 02:19:09,000 need to be a regular Council meetings 3107 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:11,479 but that does need to be something it's 3108 02:19:11,479 --> 02:19:13,880 part of communication it's part of 3109 02:19:13,880 --> 02:19:15,880 responding to ours so I'm sure that's 3110 02:19:15,880 --> 02:19:20,509 going to come back in our strategic 3111 02:19:20,519 --> 02:19:22,920 plan we got the 3112 02:19:22,920 --> 02:19:28,190 V all in favor we you can 3113 02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:40,830 get all in favor yes motions 3114 02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:42,920 carried okay we have the committee 3115 02:19:42,920 --> 02:19:44,920 governance 3116 02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:48,080 structure maybe I should read this 3117 02:19:48,080 --> 02:19:49,840 first you want to you want to mention 3118 02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:51,520 anything I think I'll read it 3119 02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:54,720 first uh whereas the acting CEO and 3120 02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:57,399 clerk will bring forward a comprehensive 3121 02:19:57,399 --> 02:19:59,439 Report with recommendations to the 3122 02:19:59,439 --> 02:20:02,200 November 28 2023 council meeting 3123 02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:04,920 regarding the township B cman committee 3124 02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:07,319 structure and governance and whereas the 3125 02:20:07,319 --> 02:20:09,160 Strategic plan is coming forward for 3126 02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:11,399 council's consideration in the fourth 3127 02:20:11,399 --> 02:20:15,319 quarter of 2023 and whereas an effective 3128 02:20:15,319 --> 02:20:17,000 beneficial and workable committee 3129 02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:17,960 structure 3130 02:20:17,960 --> 02:20:19,560 must closely align with the 3131 02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:22,000 corporation's strategic plan and be 3132 02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:24,399 considered during the budget process and 3133 02:20:24,399 --> 02:20:26,720 whereas all committees should have 3134 02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:29,040 updated terms of reference that have 3135 02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:31,560 been approved by Council and whereas 3136 02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:34,160 terms of reference have not been drafted 3137 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:36,120 or approved by Council for the re 3138 02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:39,720 recently reinstated n Waton nature 3139 02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:41,760 Sanctuary committee nor the Ros Neath 3140 02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:44,680 revitalization committee and whereas all 3141 02:20:44,680 --> 02:20:47,160 existing new and reinstated committees 3142 02:20:47,160 --> 02:20:48,920 in and subcommittees should have 3143 02:20:48,920 --> 02:20:50,840 approved terms of reference prior to 3144 02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:53,200 public appointment of members therefore 3145 02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:55,280 be resolved the council plac a 3146 02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:58,399 moratorium on the recent reinstated the 3147 02:20:58,399 --> 02:21:00,760 Waton nature Sanctuary committee and the 3148 02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,520 rose Neath revitalization 3149 02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:06,800 committee until such time as Council has 3150 02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:08,920 reviewed the committee structure and 3151 02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:10,680 governance report expected at the 3152 02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:14,600 November 28 2023 council meeting and 3153 02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:17,040 further be resolved the council direct 3154 02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:20,439 St to contact the individuals who were 3155 02:21:20,439 --> 02:21:22,880 successful applicants for membership of 3156 02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:25,560 the Nan nature Sanctuary committee and 3157 02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:27,720 advise them of this resolution and 3158 02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:29,600 further be it resolved the council 3159 02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:31,760 direct staff to advise members of the 3160 02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:34,720 public who contacted the township that 3161 02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:37,520 Council will consider a comprehensive 3162 02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:39,640 report end of November 3163 02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:42,200 2023 regarding the committee government 3164 02:21:42,200 --> 02:21:43,920 and structure and until such time there 3165 02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:47,319 will be a moratorium in place pausing 3166 02:21:47,319 --> 02:21:49,640 the creation of or reinstatement of new 3167 02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:51,680 committees or subcommittees and further 3168 02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:53,200 be resolved the council will refrain 3169 02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:54,680 from creating new committees or 3170 02:21:54,680 --> 02:21:56,600 subcommittees and will refrain from 3171 02:21:56,600 --> 02:21:58,640 reinstating former committees until such 3172 02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:00,240 time as Council has considered the 3173 02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:04,000 comprehensive staff report for and its 3174 02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:07,040 recommendations Hoover and a second moov 3175 02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:08,680 by Deputy Mayor stobber second by 3176 02:22:08,680 --> 02:22:10,640 councelor O'Neal any 3177 02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:13,560 discussions Deputy Mayor three year man 3178 02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:19,200 logal to uh CAO Dawson and uh the clerk 3179 02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:22,000 Nancy um I'm going to read what I have 3180 02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:26,000 wrote uh written here um you both are be 3181 02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:27,920 uh to be 3182 02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,920 commended um for your Insight in 3183 02:22:30,920 --> 02:22:33,560 initiating a comprehensive report on our 3184 02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:36,399 committees and board 3185 02:22:36,399 --> 02:22:39,600 structure this is something that um we 3186 02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:43,560 have been asking for and uh I'd like to 3187 02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:45,439 congratulate you on knowing and 3188 02:22:45,439 --> 02:22:49,870 realizing the need 3189 02:22:49,880 --> 02:22:53,520 that um to make sure that we are 3190 02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:57,680 providing uh duty of care for our uh 3191 02:22:57,680 --> 02:23:01,880 volunteers and that um they receive I'm 3192 02:23:01,880 --> 02:23:04,920 sure your report will have in there the 3193 02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:08,840 orientation um the uh policies that need 3194 02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:12,280 to be in place and uh the appropriate 3195 02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:14,640 training and I look forward to reading 3196 02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:18,359 your report thank you 3197 02:23:18,359 --> 02:23:20,680 any other questions comments go ahead 3198 02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:21,640 councilor 3199 02:23:21,640 --> 02:23:26,080 dth oh you go ahead second 3200 02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:29,680 to No Worries um I concur with what 3201 02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:31,760 you've said Deputy Mayor Stover I'm 3202 02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,880 especially pleased to see the language 3203 02:23:33,880 --> 02:23:36,080 provided in the background I think that 3204 02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:38,720 is language that people needed to see 3205 02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:41,439 and hear in our community and it refle 3206 02:23:41,439 --> 02:23:43,279 what we would like to achieve as a 3207 02:23:43,279 --> 02:23:46,160 council so very very pleased to see that 3208 02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:48,120 and I just want to add 3209 02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:51,439 that um because we had referred back 3210 02:23:51,439 --> 02:23:54,040 about the revitalization committee to 3211 02:23:54,040 --> 02:23:55,160 the 3212 02:23:55,160 --> 02:23:58,080 recreation that now is going to be a 3213 02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:00,760 focus for discussion next time on how 3214 02:24:00,760 --> 02:24:03,800 these can work together so um they 3215 02:24:03,800 --> 02:24:06,640 definitely were feeling the same things 3216 02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:09,000 that you were identifying so there is 3217 02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:11,840 Real Alignment between the existing 3218 02:24:11,840 --> 02:24:13,479 Recreation culture and Community 3219 02:24:13,479 --> 02:24:15,800 Development Committee and what's being 3220 02:24:15,800 --> 02:24:18,399 outlined here so 3221 02:24:18,399 --> 02:24:21,600 CER booth just a clarification maybe the 3222 02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:24,000 CAO can so when you're talking about no 3223 02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:27,359 committees or that that includes ad hoc 3224 02:24:27,359 --> 02:24:30,080 committees that is my understanding yes 3225 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:31,359 okay thank 3226 02:24:31,359 --> 02:24:35,520 you may I mayor logo just for 3227 02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:37,960 clarity uh and I want the public to know 3228 02:24:37,960 --> 02:24:40,600 this for clarity this is not disbanding 3229 02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:42,640 committees this is not shutting down 3230 02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:45,279 committees the idea here is that we're 3231 02:24:45,279 --> 02:24:48,160 providing governance and guidance for 3232 02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:49,680 the Committees to 3233 02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:52,680 follow um there is an appropriate 3234 02:24:52,680 --> 02:24:55,359 process when committees are uh allowed 3235 02:24:55,359 --> 02:24:58,279 to operate mostly for providing comment 3236 02:24:58,279 --> 02:24:59,160 to 3237 02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:01,680 council and then the appropriate process 3238 02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:04,279 for the way things then go to staff and 3239 02:25:04,279 --> 02:25:06,479 then to be accomplished that is the 3240 02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:07,600 reason for 3241 02:25:07,600 --> 02:25:09,479 it 3242 02:25:09,479 --> 02:25:11,640 yeah and could I make a comment are you 3243 02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:13,520 going to be looking at um and I know 3244 02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:15,920 we've talked about this before is the 3245 02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:19,080 education for these committees or the uh 3246 02:25:19,080 --> 02:25:21,040 orientation orientation we've been 3247 02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:24,040 asking for almost a year now and we have 3248 02:25:24,040 --> 02:25:25,800 committees that have been form that I 3249 02:25:25,800 --> 02:25:27,240 don't even believe they've had their 3250 02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:29,160 police criminal reference checks handed 3251 02:25:29,160 --> 02:25:31,840 in and I think it makes the township 3252 02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:35,120 liable that we haven't given them any 3253 02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:36,600 we've talked about you know preventing 3254 02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:37,960 stuff in the future we haven't given 3255 02:25:37,960 --> 02:25:40,800 them any orientation or even checks from 3256 02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:42,640 them so hopefully that will be included 3257 02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:44,560 in your report about the structures in 3258 02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:46,840 that yeah through you mayor local Absol 3259 02:25:46,840 --> 02:25:49,439 absolutely um when we say comprehensive 3260 02:25:49,439 --> 02:25:51,399 it's going to look at all the things 3261 02:25:51,399 --> 02:25:53,720 that that really need to be before 3262 02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:56,080 Council for consideration and discussion 3263 02:25:56,080 --> 02:25:59,240 and make sure we have everything 3264 02:25:59,240 --> 02:26:02,000 um everything down in terms of how these 3265 02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:04,080 are going to operate in the future so 3266 02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:05,800 okay good thank you 3267 02:26:05,800 --> 02:26:09,880 excellent further comments all in favor 3268 02:26:09,880 --> 02:26:15,790 motions 3269 02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:19,710 carried 3270 02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:22,120 next we have 161 committee reports be 3271 02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:24,120 resolved of the Council of the township 3272 02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:25,960 of Al mman receive the following minutes 3273 02:26:25,960 --> 02:26:28,760 for information recreational culture and 3274 02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:31,040 Community Development advisory committee 3275 02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:35,520 meeting minutes of June 26 and July 24th 3276 02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:37,920 the public library meeting minutes of 3277 02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:40,920 July 10th and the Grafton communal water 3278 02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:45,790 committee meeting minutes of July 3279 02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:47,640 26th R to 3280 02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:50,880 Second Deputy Mayor ster second 3281 02:26:50,880 --> 02:26:54,439 councilor O'Neal any discussion go ahead 3282 02:26:54,439 --> 02:26:57,120 Deputy Mayor um through here M loal um I 3283 02:26:57,120 --> 02:27:00,000 guess when not I was reading um the 3284 02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:02,359 recreation culture and community of 3285 02:27:02,359 --> 02:27:06,040 development advisory committee meeting 3286 02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:07,840 minutes 3287 02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:12,040 um when you're discussing certain things 3288 02:27:12,040 --> 02:27:14,399 in 3289 02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:17,439 there what is the next step 3290 02:27:17,439 --> 02:27:21,240 um when I look at um your uh they were 3291 02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:25,190 looking at 3292 02:27:25,200 --> 02:27:28,920 um bathrooms at the wicko boat launch 3293 02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:34,000 and maybe and and uh uh hiring 3294 02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:35,200 additional 3295 02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:38,000 staff I'm just wondering does 3296 02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:41,760 that now come forward in a a 3297 02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:45,479 report I'm I'm not sure how how what the 3298 02:27:45,479 --> 02:27:49,399 process is for that I think Mary cath's 3299 02:27:49,399 --> 02:27:51,560 gonna answer 3300 02:27:51,560 --> 02:27:55,680 it well um I think there's a two-part 3301 02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:58,240 answer one is to clarify exactly your 3302 02:27:58,240 --> 02:27:59,920 question and I think the report that we 3303 02:27:59,920 --> 02:28:03,840 were just discussing will do that but 3304 02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:08,399 um that and we also I'm sure the report 3305 02:28:08,399 --> 02:28:10,760 will touch on minutes but we had one of 3306 02:28:10,760 --> 02:28:12,560 the committee members did the minutes 3307 02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:14,200 the one month so they've got sort of a 3308 02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:16,720 different setup than the other months 3309 02:28:16,720 --> 02:28:18,359 but those were just 3310 02:28:18,359 --> 02:28:20,600 suggestions and that's one of the things 3311 02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:22,120 I think needs to be looked at in terms 3312 02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:25,200 of minutes when are things 3313 02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:28,399 just brainstorming and when are the 3314 02:28:28,399 --> 02:28:31,240 actionable items and so I I think that's 3315 02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:32,319 one of the things that we'll be 3316 02:28:32,319 --> 02:28:34,840 clarified for us having said that 3317 02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:36,600 sometimes these suggestions get carried 3318 02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:39,319 forward like the QR codes which you know 3319 02:28:39,319 --> 02:28:42,000 was no cost to anyone but they've now 3320 02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:45,319 implemented that on um like posters and 3321 02:28:45,319 --> 02:28:47,840 stuff that are being created it and very 3322 02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,479 pleased with how that's progressing so 3323 02:28:50,479 --> 02:28:53,120 you know that's where a suggestion has 3324 02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:55,240 already turned into action but the other 3325 02:28:55,240 --> 02:28:57,600 ones with regard to budget they were 3326 02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:01,359 just here's some brainstorming ideas you 3327 02:29:01,359 --> 02:29:04,040 might think about but they weren't meant 3328 02:29:04,040 --> 02:29:05,800 to be actionable items yeah because 3329 02:29:05,800 --> 02:29:08,399 there was another one hiring additional 3330 02:29:08,399 --> 02:29:11,640 staff for Parks wrecking culture 3331 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:15,720 department so I I just kind of and 3332 02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:17,080 you've answered it if it is 3333 02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:19,399 brainstorming and and maybe the minutes 3334 02:29:19,399 --> 02:29:23,399 could reflect that thank you I think I 3335 02:29:23,399 --> 02:29:26,800 think n's plan on when she does a 3336 02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:29,560 comprehensive investigation and Report 3337 02:29:29,560 --> 02:29:31,760 that'll tell us a lot of 3338 02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:34,479 that and and come back to what Greg was 3339 02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:37,080 mentioned there 15 minutes ago about the 3340 02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:43,080 U Rose Neath um uh ACC and and and um 3341 02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:45,520 negotiating with that group I I think 3342 02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:49,040 that's probably all fits into the same 3343 02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:51,279 thing okay we got a move in a second her 3344 02:29:51,279 --> 02:30:01,790 all in favor that motion's 3345 02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:04,439 carried next we 3346 02:30:04,439 --> 02:30:08,960 have Grafton drinking water system 2023 3347 02:30:08,960 --> 02:30:10,479 operational 3348 02:30:10,479 --> 02:30:14,439 report um for May and June be resolve 3349 02:30:14,439 --> 02:30:18,080 the correspondence from Larry spur 3350 02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:21,359 spia manager of water capital projects 3351 02:30:21,359 --> 02:30:24,359 Lucy reging Grafton drinking water 3352 02:30:24,359 --> 02:30:28,359 system 2023 operational report reporting 3353 02:30:28,359 --> 02:30:32,680 period May till June 2023 we received 3354 02:30:32,680 --> 02:30:35,760 and filed R and the 3355 02:30:35,760 --> 02:30:38,279 seconder mov by Deputy Mayor stver 3356 02:30:38,279 --> 02:30:39,800 seconded 3357 02:30:39,800 --> 02:30:44,000 by councelor boo any 3358 02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:47,279 discussion is are we reporting this 3359 02:30:47,279 --> 02:30:50,080 is this going to the to your committee 3360 02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:53,080 first it already has it's 3361 02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:56,160 already are from May 3362 02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:58,479 okay historically they've been part of 3363 02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:00,279 your report but maybe you're trying to 3364 02:31:00,279 --> 02:31:04,520 keep them separate now oh maybe 3365 02:31:04,520 --> 02:31:08,359 see do historically Larry's report went 3366 02:31:08,359 --> 02:31:11,880 to the water committee and then they 3367 02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:15,120 copied uh it was part of that uh minutes 3368 02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:17,560 of their meeting but this is a different 3369 02:31:17,560 --> 02:31:18,920 way of doing it I don't know if it's 3370 02:31:18,920 --> 02:31:21,000 right and wrong we've been doing this 3371 02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:23,760 for quite some time oh have you yeah 3372 02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:26,560 okay well the advantage of that to uh 3373 02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:29,000 your worship is that you see these 3374 02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:31,920 reports uh quicker than because we only 3375 02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:34,760 meet every few months by the time it 3376 02:31:34,760 --> 02:31:36,680 happens and then the minutes be approved 3377 02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:38,120 and then it comes back with Larry's 3378 02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:39,880 thing you'll be getting reports from 3379 02:31:39,880 --> 02:31:42,439 January instead you're getting them okay 3380 02:31:42,439 --> 02:31:43,240 good 3381 02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:47,160 point confusion all in favor 3382 02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:48,359 motion's 3383 02:31:48,359 --> 02:31:52,120 carried and then we have some more 3384 02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:56,120 from 6172 Grafton drinking water 3385 02:31:56,120 --> 02:31:58,960 operational report dated July for July 3386 02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:00,439 and August we resolved that the 3387 02:32:00,439 --> 02:32:02,120 correspondence from Larry manager of 3388 02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:05,399 water Chap and uh projects Lucy 3389 02:32:05,399 --> 02:32:07,399 regarding the graft and drinking water 3390 02:32:07,399 --> 02:32:10,960 system 2023 operational report report 3391 02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:13,920 period July till August 2023 we received 3392 02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:16,319 and filed ruber the second mov by 3393 02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:18,160 councelor Booth seconded by Deputy Mayor 3394 02:32:18,160 --> 02:32:21,279 stver any discussion go ahead councelor 3395 02:32:21,279 --> 02:32:23,319 Booth I'm just wondering uh and you can 3396 02:32:23,319 --> 02:32:25,120 back me up on this Deputy Mayor at our 3397 02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:26,960 last meeting you'll see in these minutes 3398 02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:31,080 St Mary cemetery that Tom bahem of bem 3399 02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:34,359 construction has out of his own uh 3400 02:32:34,359 --> 02:32:37,520 goodness of heart has fixed the uh St 3401 02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:40,680 Mary C cemetery and the water committee 3402 02:32:40,680 --> 02:32:42,920 was suggesting to council that we could 3403 02:32:42,920 --> 02:32:44,920 send him a letter of thanks from Town 3404 02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:48,990 Council to thank you very much for his 3405 02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:52,590 donation you're 3406 02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:56,160 to to your I I'll I can make a separate 3407 02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:58,520 motion if you want is just it would be 3408 02:32:58,520 --> 02:33:01,560 proper to okay so could I amend that to 3409 02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:03,520 say we also send a thank you letter to 3410 02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:05,880 Tom bahem of bem construction thanking 3411 02:33:05,880 --> 02:33:09,359 him for his um service work at the St 3412 02:33:09,359 --> 02:33:11,399 Mary 3413 02:33:11,399 --> 02:33:14,080 cemetery and who seconded 3414 02:33:14,080 --> 02:33:18,040 that deputy mayor 3415 02:33:18,040 --> 02:33:19,800 or do you want to make it SE I can make 3416 02:33:19,800 --> 02:33:22,800 it separate if you want okay all in 3417 02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:24,279 favor as 3418 02:33:24,279 --> 02:33:41,429 amended that's 3419 02:33:41,439 --> 02:33:43,960 Carri be resolved the township of alen 3420 02:33:43,960 --> 02:33:46,520 meman received North umberland Count's 3421 02:33:46,520 --> 02:33:48,279 2023 to 3422 02:33:48,279 --> 02:33:52,000 2027 commun Community strategic plan for 3423 02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:54,080 information Uber in a 3424 02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:56,520 seconder moved by Council answorth 3425 02:33:56,520 --> 02:33:59,800 seconded by councilor O'Neal any 3426 02:33:59,800 --> 02:34:03,240 discussion go ahead Mike you mayor 3427 02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:07,640 loo I just wondered if the county um has 3428 02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:10,560 involved all the municipalities in this 3429 02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:13,399 report I mean are they looking out for 3430 02:34:13,399 --> 02:34:16,680 the whole County I would assume 3431 02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:19,040 and if so have they involved us like 3432 02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:20,840 they you know do they know what we feel 3433 02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:22,800 like what we should have in there to 3434 02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:26,000 promote us and you know 3435 02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:28,319 we're I would have to say that they're a 3436 02:34:28,319 --> 02:34:31,200 separate uh municipality and they based 3437 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:34,840 their strategic plan on on North 3438 02:34:34,840 --> 02:34:38,319 themselves so do they involve us this 3439 02:34:38,319 --> 02:34:42,960 Council or any other councils no they do 3440 02:34:42,960 --> 02:34:49,950 not okay I just think they should 3441 02:34:49,960 --> 02:34:53,680 okay to your mayor loo oh sorry um 3442 02:34:53,680 --> 02:34:56,800 councelor O'Neal I think inadvertently 3443 02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:57,840 your 3444 02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:04,920 thoughts are coming through because on this report there's a representative 3445 02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:07,040 from every 3446 02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:09,399 municipality yes so I'm sure you're 3447 02:35:09,399 --> 02:35:11,640 bringing your 3448 02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:15,160 Insight of what is here yes would that 3449 02:35:15,160 --> 02:35:16,960 be fair 3450 02:35:16,960 --> 02:35:19,439 yes at the same time 3451 02:35:19,439 --> 02:35:22,359 I when I go to Northland Council 3452 02:35:22,359 --> 02:35:25,160 Northland County Council I represent the 3453 02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:28,279 entire Council not just or Pard all of 3454 02:35:28,279 --> 02:35:32,389 the municipalities not just 3455 02:35:32,399 --> 02:35:36,840 A&H M cin um just on page 13 it does 3456 02:35:36,840 --> 02:35:40,760 outline how the they engaged the overall 3457 02:35:40,760 --> 02:35:44,560 community and it does show here that the 3458 02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:47,439 highest level of Engagement was at the 3459 02:35:47,439 --> 02:35:50,520 popups where they were iners Community 3460 02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:53,120 conversation so that actually is useful 3461 02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:54,960 I think for us to know that that's how 3462 02:35:54,960 --> 02:35:59,630 people did engage most extensively 3463 02:35:59,640 --> 02:36:04,880 so further discussion go ahead H my 3464 02:36:04,880 --> 02:36:09,040 three be logo my numbers are a little 3465 02:36:09,040 --> 02:36:11,680 skewed uh page 3466 02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:13,800 223 the old 3467 02:36:13,800 --> 02:36:19,439 223 they talk about a committee and 3468 02:36:19,439 --> 02:36:22,920 um appointments to the m committees was 3469 02:36:22,920 --> 02:36:25,160 that um the 3470 02:36:25,160 --> 02:36:32,240 homeless well that's the Brighton that's the next one 3471 02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:34,960 174 oh okay I'll wait till we get there 3472 02:36:34,960 --> 02:36:37,880 and then thank you okay all in 3473 02:36:37,880 --> 02:36:40,319 favor 3474 02:36:40,319 --> 02:36:44,279 Carri next we go on to the municipality 3475 02:36:44,279 --> 02:37:02,510 of Brion res 3476 02:37:02,520 --> 02:37:05,000 174a the municipality of Brighton 3477 02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:07,160 resolution regarding North umberland 3478 02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:09,600 intermunicipal ad hoc committee on 3479 02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:12,560 hosing and homelessness whereas the 3480 02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:14,200 Council of the municipality of Brighton 3481 02:37:14,200 --> 02:37:17,560 wish to initiate an intermunicipal ad 3482 02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:19,920 hoc committee to examine lower tier 3483 02:37:19,920 --> 02:37:22,200 expenditures and bylaws related to 3484 02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:24,680 homelessness to identify opportunities 3485 02:37:24,680 --> 02:37:26,240 for better alignment with North 3486 02:37:26,240 --> 02:37:28,479 umberland County hosing and homelessness 3487 02:37:28,479 --> 02:37:31,040 programs and whereas the Council of the 3488 02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:32,640 municipality of Brighton invite 3489 02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:35,479 participants participation in this group 3490 02:37:35,479 --> 02:37:37,600 by representatives from the County's 3491 02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:40,840 seven lower tier municipalities and from 3492 02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:42,800 the upper tier the county of North 3493 02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:45,200 umberland and whereas this group would 3494 02:37:45,200 --> 02:37:46,880 report back back to the respective 3495 02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:49,520 councils before the end of 3496 02:37:49,520 --> 02:37:52,279 2023 therefore be it resolved that the 3497 02:37:52,279 --> 02:37:54,359 alen hman council appoint one of its 3498 02:37:54,359 --> 02:37:56,600 members to sit on the intermunicipal ad 3499 02:37:56,600 --> 02:37:59,240 hoc committee and further be it resolved 3500 02:37:59,240 --> 02:38:01,439 that the council directs staff to advise 3501 02:38:01,439 --> 02:38:04,439 the municipality of the alen moldman 3502 02:38:04,439 --> 02:38:06,880 member 3503 02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:10,120 appointee and I have another one there 3504 02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:13,040 to read um maybe we'll try them together 3505 02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:15,800 and then come back to it whereas Council 3506 02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:16,960 reviewed the resolution for the 3507 02:38:16,960 --> 02:38:18,720 municipality of Brighton and whereas 3508 02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:20,840 Council reviewed the draft terms of 3509 02:38:20,840 --> 02:38:22,600 refer reference for the north umberland 3510 02:38:22,600 --> 02:38:25,439 intermunicipal ad hoc committee on home 3511 02:38:25,439 --> 02:38:27,560 housing and homeless we resolve that 3512 02:38:27,560 --> 02:38:30,600 council member blank have expressed 3513 02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:32,479 their interest in serving on this 3514 02:38:32,479 --> 02:38:34,399 intermunicipal at hoc committee is 3515 02:38:34,399 --> 02:38:37,640 hereby appointed the is hereby the app 3516 02:38:37,640 --> 02:38:40,000 Point E from the Council of towns Al 3517 02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:42,680 mman and further be resolved the council 3518 02:38:42,680 --> 02:38:46,080 appoint will update Al mman Council 3519 02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:50,590 regarding the work of this adoc 3520 02:38:50,600 --> 02:38:54,000 committee so I guess the first one uh 3521 02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:58,070 says do we want to get 3522 02:38:58,080 --> 02:39:00,200 involved can I get a over in a second 3523 02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:01,680 for 3524 02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:04,680 that by Council 3525 02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:07,279 O'Neal second by Council anorth 3526 02:39:07,279 --> 02:39:09,080 discussion any 3527 02:39:09,080 --> 02:39:11,439 discussion um I actually think this 3528 02:39:11,439 --> 02:39:14,600 follows up on councelor ainsworth's 3529 02:39:14,600 --> 02:39:16,880 question about how to make it work 3530 02:39:16,880 --> 02:39:18,960 between the county and the 3531 02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:21,880 municipalities and yes we absolutely do 3532 02:39:21,880 --> 02:39:25,720 have the mayor who's there representing 3533 02:39:25,720 --> 02:39:29,080 our area but as he's rightly points out 3534 02:39:29,080 --> 02:39:30,720 representing all of Northumberland 3535 02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:34,040 County but this allows those decisions 3536 02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:36,200 that have you know I think one like a 3537 02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:39,200 ven diagram where they overlap between 3538 02:39:39,200 --> 02:39:40,600 there's things that are the county 3539 02:39:40,600 --> 02:39:43,080 there's things that are tier one that's 3540 02:39:43,080 --> 02:39:45,800 us but there is some overlap and this is 3541 02:39:45,800 --> 02:39:48,800 just an opportunity for us to say well 3542 02:39:48,800 --> 02:39:51,200 what are you doing in Brighton or Port 3543 02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:53,800 Hope or wherever in the overlap and I 3544 02:39:53,800 --> 02:39:55,479 think I read somewhere that this was 3545 02:39:55,479 --> 02:39:57,600 aiming for four meetings a year so I 3546 02:39:57,600 --> 02:39:59,479 think it's to check in with one another 3547 02:39:59,479 --> 02:40:03,080 so I I'm interested in this mik you have 3548 02:40:03,080 --> 02:40:07,479 a comment yeah I I would excuse me I 3549 02:40:07,479 --> 02:40:09,760 don't know if we can get a a report and 3550 02:40:09,760 --> 02:40:11,160 know how all this 3551 02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:14,240 works you know if um you know if you're 3552 02:40:14,240 --> 02:40:17,000 getting homeless people's places to stay 3553 02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:19,399 and you know how they're how they're fed 3554 02:40:19,399 --> 02:40:22,040 how the if you get them housing who pays 3555 02:40:22,040 --> 02:40:24,960 for that housing and um it would be nice 3556 02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:27,279 to know that whole process before we 3557 02:40:27,279 --> 02:40:29,800 jump into something like this and uh 3558 02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:31,399 just kind of so we know what it's all 3559 02:40:31,399 --> 02:40:34,920 about and and how it's all funded and um 3560 02:40:34,920 --> 02:40:38,640 how they're approached you know the uh 3561 02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:41,640 the the painstaking thing of trying to 3562 02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:43,880 bring them bring them back to a to a 3563 02:40:43,880 --> 02:40:47,240 home kind of thing right so I would if 3564 02:40:47,240 --> 02:40:48,920 there's if there's any kind of a report 3565 02:40:48,920 --> 02:40:50,720 but maybe there is already I'd just like 3566 02:40:50,720 --> 02:40:52,600 to see that be able to read 3567 02:40:52,600 --> 02:40:56,200 it yeah there's there's a whole um 3568 02:40:56,200 --> 02:40:57,960 Department that handles all this well 3569 02:40:57,960 --> 02:40:59,319 that's what I'm saying so why why can't 3570 02:40:59,319 --> 02:41:00,880 we see that before we make this decision 3571 02:41:00,880 --> 02:41:02,319 that we're jumping into it' be nice to 3572 02:41:02,319 --> 02:41:04,800 know the process and in the funding of 3573 02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:06,359 it 3574 02:41:06,359 --> 02:41:08,920 all well we could ask I guess we could 3575 02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:12,359 ask the posing manager to or social 3576 02:41:12,359 --> 02:41:14,120 services person to come down and explain 3577 02:41:14,120 --> 02:41:16,840 it sure best they can it's 3578 02:41:16,840 --> 02:41:19,240 complicated 3579 02:41:19,240 --> 02:41:22,429 yeah 3580 02:41:22,439 --> 02:41:25,000 ahead thank you through you mayor logo 3581 02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:27,880 um so this ad hoc committee uh as the 3582 02:41:27,880 --> 02:41:30,600 name suggests is is a very finite 3583 02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:33,439 shortterm committee and it's it's being 3584 02:41:33,439 --> 02:41:36,200 initiated by one of the seven lower 3585 02:41:36,200 --> 02:41:40,160 tiers Brighton um as well as including 3586 02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:43,800 Northumberland so this is not a a county 3587 02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:45,920 Le initiative but as count councelor 3588 02:41:45,920 --> 02:41:48,000 O'Neal was saying it's very much a 3589 02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:51,439 situation where uh all seven member 3590 02:41:51,439 --> 02:41:53,680 municipalities in the county want to 3591 02:41:53,680 --> 02:41:57,000 work together presumably to see what can 3592 02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:00,479 be done in in terms of the increasing um 3593 02:42:00,479 --> 02:42:02,040 pressures and issues and different 3594 02:42:02,040 --> 02:42:04,120 things that uh communities have gone 3595 02:42:04,120 --> 02:42:08,760 through of late um one of the I I don't 3596 02:42:08,760 --> 02:42:11,800 really think that uh other than the 3597 02:42:11,800 --> 02:42:13,600 terms of reference which you which you 3598 02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:15,600 have before you for this committee I 3599 02:42:15,600 --> 02:42:17,880 don't think there's anything that 3600 02:42:17,880 --> 02:42:20,520 they've predetermined I think it's more 3601 02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:22,160 they they want to try to do a fact-f 3602 02:42:22,160 --> 02:42:24,279 finding session amongst themselves to 3603 02:42:24,279 --> 02:42:26,880 see you know what what ideas can we come 3604 02:42:26,880 --> 02:42:29,520 up with and and how can how can we 3605 02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:31,880 perhaps make a difference and rectify 3606 02:42:31,880 --> 02:42:34,520 some of the issues that that was how I 3607 02:42:34,520 --> 02:42:38,990 interpreted the Brighton 3608 02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:41,840 resolution um and and that person I 3609 02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:44,200 think whoever that represent is will be 3610 02:42:44,200 --> 02:42:48,920 able to provide some that information 3611 02:42:48,920 --> 02:42:54,830 you're as as anybody 3612 02:42:54,840 --> 02:42:58,960 make m c uh thank you mayor logel um a 3613 02:42:58,960 --> 02:43:01,560 two-part thing I actually was very 3614 02:43:01,560 --> 02:43:03,240 fortunate because I happened to be the 3615 02:43:03,240 --> 02:43:06,080 chair of uh halman Court departments 3616 02:43:06,080 --> 02:43:08,120 when the county Was preparing all of 3617 02:43:08,120 --> 02:43:10,080 this so I did actually get an 3618 02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:13,000 opportunity to work with and be part of 3619 02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:15,080 that process as it unrolled and so I 3620 02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:16,680 would be happy to share that with you 3621 02:43:16,680 --> 02:43:18,439 and I think that's actually a benefit to 3622 02:43:18,439 --> 02:43:20,520 say who's going to be bringing this 3623 02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:23,080 forward I do have a follow-up question 3624 02:43:23,080 --> 02:43:25,880 if I may through to our CAO and clerk 3625 02:43:25,880 --> 02:43:27,800 would you prefer this decision be 3626 02:43:27,800 --> 02:43:32,399 postponed until we've had our um 3627 02:43:32,399 --> 02:43:35,600 discussions for the Strategic plan or 3628 02:43:35,600 --> 02:43:38,520 they're ready to go and we can go with 3629 02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:42,080 them any thought thank you councelor 3630 02:43:42,080 --> 02:43:44,560 anneal through you mayor logal my 3631 02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:45,840 understanding is that 3632 02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:48,560 this committee um the intent is to meet 3633 02:43:48,560 --> 02:43:50,680 four times before the end of this 3634 02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:53,399 calendar year so I I don't know that 3635 02:43:53,399 --> 02:43:57,000 that's really an opportunity to wait yes 3636 02:43:57,000 --> 02:43:58,560 I needed to read that 3637 02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:00,560 close I think you're looking for help 3638 02:44:00,560 --> 02:44:03,479 any away but anyway go ahead for you 3639 02:44:03,479 --> 02:44:06,600 mayor logo um I I don't see this as 3640 02:44:06,600 --> 02:44:08,399 being part of the the governance 3641 02:44:08,399 --> 02:44:10,439 structure that okay that you're talking 3642 02:44:10,439 --> 02:44:12,160 about I think a representative from 3643 02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:14,960 Council if that's council's wishes um 3644 02:44:14,960 --> 02:44:17,080 that a representative from from this 3645 02:44:17,080 --> 02:44:21,670 table 3646 02:44:21,680 --> 02:44:29,560 here yes so all in favor of 3647 02:44:29,560 --> 02:44:32,479 U this group invol go ahead could we 3648 02:44:32,479 --> 02:44:34,279 pick a name too at the same time to see 3649 02:44:34,279 --> 02:44:35,880 who's interested so we can just do it 3650 02:44:35,880 --> 02:44:37,200 all at once 3651 02:44:37,200 --> 02:44:41,309 and G have to read two 3652 02:44:41,319 --> 02:44:44,439 motions yeah okay okay what do you who 3653 02:44:44,439 --> 02:44:46,960 are you suggesting well well pardon me I 3654 02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:48,520 would suggest since I had the floor I 3655 02:44:48,520 --> 02:44:49,840 would suggest Mary Katherine because 3656 02:44:49,840 --> 02:44:51,680 she's very interested in it right so for 3657 02:44:51,680 --> 02:44:52,960 something like this and come back and 3658 02:44:52,960 --> 02:44:54,960 keep us surprised of it unless there's 3659 02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:56,680 two other counselors that want to sit on 3660 02:44:56,680 --> 02:44:58,399 I'm 3661 02:44:58,399 --> 02:45:03,080 fine M no I'm fine with that so are you 3662 02:45:03,080 --> 02:45:05,399 willing to accept this responsibility I 3663 02:45:05,399 --> 02:45:13,670 would thank you all right make it all favor of Mary C's 3664 02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:17,080 appointment congrat ulations thank 3665 02:45:17,080 --> 02:45:29,830 you okay so 3666 02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:37,790 yeah sry that's 3667 02:45:37,800 --> 02:45:42,560 okay next we go into uh the Amo watch 3668 02:45:42,560 --> 02:45:44,800 file be it resolved the council receive 3669 02:45:44,800 --> 02:45:46,920 the watch file newsletter from the 3670 02:45:46,920 --> 02:45:48,880 association of municipalities of Ontario 3671 02:45:48,880 --> 02:45:53,200 dated September 14th and 21st 2023 for 3672 02:45:53,200 --> 02:45:55,319 information R 3673 02:45:55,319 --> 02:45:57,800 seconded by count Deputy Mayor stobber 3674 02:45:57,800 --> 02:46:00,720 second by Council answorth any 3675 02:46:00,720 --> 02:46:02,800 discussion all in 3676 02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:08,670 favor motions 3677 02:46:08,680 --> 02:46:11,640 carried next we have 3678 02:46:11,640 --> 02:46:14,000 1776 the 3679 02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:16,600 mmah responding to the hosing 3680 02:46:16,600 --> 02:46:18,920 affordability task force 3681 02:46:18,920 --> 02:46:21,319 recommendations whereas the acting CAO 3682 02:46:21,319 --> 02:46:23,720 fire chief directed planning staff to 3683 02:46:23,720 --> 02:46:25,160 review the correspondence from the 3684 02:46:25,160 --> 02:46:27,200 minister minister of Municipal Affairs 3685 02:46:27,200 --> 02:46:28,399 and hosing 3686 02:46:28,399 --> 02:46:31,920 mmah and repair a report and 3687 02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:34,120 recommendation to council regarding the 3688 02:46:34,120 --> 02:46:36,359 ministers responding to the hosing 3689 02:46:36,359 --> 02:46:39,279 affordability task force recommendations 3690 02:46:39,279 --> 02:46:41,640 and where a staff request that the 3691 02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:45,040 mmah provide the township of AL C and 3692 02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:47,720 extension on the ministry's deadline for 3693 02:46:47,720 --> 02:46:50,600 responses October 16th an extension 3694 02:46:50,600 --> 02:46:52,600 request was denied and whereas the 3695 02:46:52,600 --> 02:46:55,439 ministry requested that heads of council 3696 02:46:55,439 --> 02:46:56,840 provide the information that was 3697 02:46:56,840 --> 02:46:58,560 requested therefore be resolved the 3698 02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:01,399 council received this corresponding from 3699 02:47:01,399 --> 02:47:03,600 mmah and further 3700 02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:06,319 that be it resolved that Mayor John Lal 3701 02:47:06,319 --> 02:47:08,040 will provide council with a copy of his 3702 02:47:08,040 --> 02:47:12,279 letter to the mm ah at a future meeting 3703 02:47:12,279 --> 02:47:13,920 moving to 3704 02:47:13,920 --> 02:47:16,720 seconder move by Deputy Mayor St second 3705 02:47:16,720 --> 02:47:18,920 by Council eworth any 3706 02:47:18,920 --> 02:47:23,359 discussion all in favor motions 3707 02:47:23,359 --> 02:47:28,990 carried 3708 02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:31,359 74 mayor is this something that we're 3709 02:47:31,359 --> 02:47:34,680 going to fill out those five uh the 3710 02:47:34,680 --> 02:47:37,560 spots there the questionnaire or sorry 3711 02:47:37,560 --> 02:47:39,200 um putting number ideas in there is 3712 02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:40,439 there something as staff that we're 3713 02:47:40,439 --> 02:47:43,040 going to do staff preparing something 3714 02:47:43,040 --> 02:47:45,920 for me that I have to 3715 02:47:45,920 --> 02:47:48,880 okay planning planning planning is 3716 02:47:48,880 --> 02:47:50,800 helping me do that we're meeting next 3717 02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:53,640 week okay next Wednesday we're make sure 3718 02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:57,640 we've got it all done good next we have 3719 02:47:57,640 --> 02:48:01,640 177 L Trent conservation 2024 draft 3720 02:48:01,640 --> 02:48:04,279 budget the township of alen mccalman 3721 02:48:04,279 --> 02:48:07,000 received the L Trent conservations 2024 3722 02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:09,000 draft budget letter and attachment for 3723 02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:11,319 information and consideration during the 3724 02:48:11,319 --> 02:48:15,640 Township's 2024 budget process ru 3725 02:48:15,640 --> 02:48:19,960 second by councelor Booth seconded by 3726 02:48:19,960 --> 02:48:22,720 councelor eworth any discussions 3727 02:48:22,720 --> 02:48:26,240 councelor Booth I'll start on it first I 3728 02:48:26,240 --> 02:48:29,680 guess um I believe if I'm correct I 3729 02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:35,240 think the um Rona is her name Ronda comes here before Council and 3730 02:48:35,240 --> 02:48:37,840 talks about her budget but I got a big 3731 02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:39,600 problem with this reading this this is 3732 02:48:39,600 --> 02:48:42,920 asking for a 19% increase which means 3733 02:48:42,920 --> 02:48:45,479 we're going to be paying 23,000 3734 02:48:45,479 --> 02:48:47,120 $247 3735 02:48:47,120 --> 02:48:52,240 more and I'm sorry I just don't buy the 3736 02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:54,920 uh the arguments that they're saying 3737 02:48:54,920 --> 02:48:58,279 that uh several factors include uh the 3738 02:48:58,279 --> 02:49:01,800 4.9% consumers price index increase in 3739 02:49:01,800 --> 02:49:04,160 minimum wage you know decrease in 3740 02:49:04,160 --> 02:49:05,880 surplus funds but then they're looking 3741 02:49:05,880 --> 02:49:07,200 at taking 3742 02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:09,640 2.25 uh temporary employees and making 3743 02:49:09,640 --> 02:49:12,840 them full-time and I bring this up 3744 02:49:12,840 --> 02:49:14,399 because this happened with last year's 3745 02:49:14,399 --> 02:49:16,840 Council too is that I believe and don't 3746 02:49:16,840 --> 02:49:18,880 quote me on the numbers but I believe 3747 02:49:18,880 --> 02:49:21,640 Trent uh Conservation Area was very high 3748 02:49:21,640 --> 02:49:24,239 either eight or 9% and ganaraska was 3749 02:49:24,239 --> 02:49:26,800 like at two or three per. and I can't 3750 02:49:26,800 --> 02:49:29,239 see why every year it seems to be that 3751 02:49:29,239 --> 02:49:32,439 Trent is double triple what the other 3752 02:49:32,439 --> 02:49:35,960 Conservation Area is asking for so I'm 3753 02:49:35,960 --> 02:49:38,680 hoping that Council here would agree 3754 02:49:38,680 --> 02:49:41,239 that we could ask staff to bring us back 3755 02:49:41,239 --> 02:49:44,279 a report at the next meeting just for a 3756 02:49:44,279 --> 02:49:46,920 very quick comparison of for the last 3757 02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:48,359 five years and I'm sure it could be done 3758 02:49:48,359 --> 02:49:51,120 by the treasurer very quickly what 3759 02:49:51,120 --> 02:49:53,680 ganaraska is increase has been for the 3760 02:49:53,680 --> 02:49:55,640 last five years and what trents has been 3761 02:49:55,640 --> 02:49:57,319 for the last five years so we have some 3762 02:49:57,319 --> 02:49:59,319 numbers to look at so that when she 3763 02:49:59,319 --> 02:50:01,800 comes and makes a presentation that we 3764 02:50:01,800 --> 02:50:04,560 can you know ask some big questions I 3765 02:50:04,560 --> 02:50:06,760 know if we as Town's Council to hold the 3766 02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:08,800 public we were increasing the taxes by 3767 02:50:08,800 --> 02:50:13,630 19% none of us would be here the next 3768 02:50:13,640 --> 02:50:15,720 time 3769 02:50:15,720 --> 02:50:19,120 thank you Greg mik through you Mary logo 3770 02:50:19,120 --> 02:50:20,800 yeah and and councelor Booth is Right 3771 02:50:20,800 --> 02:50:23,319 mostly because I I um I talked to Ronda 3772 02:50:23,319 --> 02:50:27,600 before we came to the meeting and it's typically to cover those two uh 3773 02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:30,120 part-time people because they're just 3774 02:50:30,120 --> 02:50:32,359 they're overworked uh they've had their 3775 02:50:32,359 --> 02:50:36,800 own um provintial cuts and 3776 02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:40,200 um the uh you know and I agree with 3777 02:50:40,200 --> 02:50:42,120 councelor Booth it's it's something that 3778 02:50:42,120 --> 02:50:43,160 like any other thing should be 3779 02:50:43,160 --> 02:50:44,840 negotiated and I think that's suppos 3780 02:50:44,840 --> 02:50:48,349 that we should take with 3781 02:50:48,359 --> 02:50:51,080 it uh didn't I also see somewhere where 3782 02:50:51,080 --> 02:50:53,080 it said they were actually Al they did 3783 02:50:53,080 --> 02:50:54,800 want to add two and a half people some 3784 02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:56,160 of their work was going to be the 3785 02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:58,399 expected 3786 02:50:58,399 --> 02:51:03,560 in was expected to be what some of the jobs they were going to be 3787 02:51:03,560 --> 02:51:07,120 needing less to do well with legislation 3788 02:51:07,120 --> 02:51:08,640 from The Province there's a lot of 3789 02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:09,920 things that they're they're not 3790 02:51:09,920 --> 02:51:13,279 responsible for anymore I I guess my one 3791 02:51:13,279 --> 02:51:15,000 question through you your worship maybe 3792 02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:17,600 Nancy would be I don't know how this 3793 02:51:17,600 --> 02:51:20,359 actually works if we don't approve of 3794 02:51:20,359 --> 02:51:22,960 paying an extra 19% how does that work 3795 02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:25,640 do we even get a 3796 02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:28,279 choice because we're one of like six or 3797 02:51:28,279 --> 02:51:30,720 seven groups that are in there and 3798 02:51:30,720 --> 02:51:33,399 there's uh Municipality of Trent which 3799 02:51:33,399 --> 02:51:34,880 is going to be asked for almost a 3800 02:51:34,880 --> 02:51:37,880 $100,000 more increase I can't see them 3801 02:51:37,880 --> 02:51:39,600 being very happy with something like 3802 02:51:39,600 --> 02:51:42,040 that either so what happens if if we 3803 02:51:42,040 --> 02:51:43,880 vote as Council to say we don't agree to 3804 02:51:43,880 --> 02:51:46,840 a 19% % increase does 3805 02:51:46,840 --> 02:51:49,600 that maybe you can answer Nancy I don't 3806 02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:53,600 know for you mayor logo um excellent 3807 02:51:53,600 --> 02:51:56,000 question and I don't actually have an 3808 02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:58,800 answer to that so uh right now the res 3809 02:51:58,800 --> 02:52:00,680 the recommended resolution is to Simply 3810 02:52:00,680 --> 02:52:02,479 receive it for information but we can 3811 02:52:02,479 --> 02:52:05,800 certainly um if you'd just like to um 3812 02:52:05,800 --> 02:52:08,160 move a a motion and get a second or we 3813 02:52:08,160 --> 02:52:10,359 can get that information and bring it 3814 02:52:10,359 --> 02:52:13,359 back if Council so chooses prior to the 3815 02:52:13,359 --> 02:52:16,920 budget process like for 3816 02:52:16,920 --> 02:52:20,600 information through you mayor Nancy then 3817 02:52:20,600 --> 02:52:23,520 if this has a a budget impact uh and 3818 02:52:23,520 --> 02:52:25,720 we're required to pay do we have 3819 02:52:25,720 --> 02:52:28,120 representation on their on their board 3820 02:52:28,120 --> 02:52:30,520 by way of committee or otherwise that's 3821 02:52:30,520 --> 02:52:32,880 you so through your mayor to council 3822 02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:35,600 answorth were you consulted about this 3823 02:52:35,600 --> 02:52:38,760 budget and were you part of the 3824 02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:41,319 process uh through you mayor logo yeah 3825 02:52:41,319 --> 02:52:43,720 it came up at our last meeting but it 3826 02:52:43,720 --> 02:52:46,080 was already prepared 3827 02:52:46,080 --> 02:52:49,080 preped so there was a group of uh a 3828 02:52:49,080 --> 02:52:51,640 group of counselors that sat on a a 3829 02:52:51,640 --> 02:52:53,479 budget board 3830 02:52:53,479 --> 02:52:58,950 committee and this was put together my 3831 02:52:58,960 --> 02:53:01,080 understanding through your mayor would 3832 02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:03,560 you be able to give the information to 3833 02:53:03,560 --> 02:53:06,560 Nancy who was on that board what what 3834 02:53:06,560 --> 02:53:09,359 communities they represented and again 3835 02:53:09,359 --> 02:53:11,640 going back to my question were you 3836 02:53:11,640 --> 02:53:14,439 consulted about this budget process or 3837 02:53:14,439 --> 02:53:16,600 during this budget process or were you 3838 02:53:16,600 --> 02:53:19,080 presented to yeah no it was just 3839 02:53:19,080 --> 02:53:21,439 presented to us so yeah so the rest of 3840 02:53:21,439 --> 02:53:23,840 us so literally I think I believe there 3841 02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:25,479 was three on the committee three or four 3842 02:53:25,479 --> 02:53:28,120 I think and um so they just came back 3843 02:53:28,120 --> 02:53:29,560 and presented it to 3844 02:53:29,560 --> 02:53:32,520 us so and there was some push back at 3845 02:53:32,520 --> 02:53:36,960 the meeting already with it so um um I'm 3846 02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:40,469 sure they're expecting 3847 02:53:40,479 --> 02:53:44,680 it okay go ahead so could I add an amend 3848 02:53:44,680 --> 02:53:46,960 then what you said mayor was uh if we 3849 02:53:46,960 --> 02:53:49,399 could ask staff to come back at the next 3850 02:53:49,399 --> 02:53:51,200 meeting with a comparison of the last 3851 02:53:51,200 --> 02:53:53,319 five years between both conservation 3852 02:53:53,319 --> 02:53:55,399 things what their annual increas has 3853 02:53:55,399 --> 02:53:58,040 been and what was it that you said John 3854 02:53:58,040 --> 02:54:02,000 you wanted us to can't remember now just 3855 02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:03,680 I'd like to see you know they mentioned 3856 02:54:03,680 --> 02:54:05,840 a 19% increase and they mentioned the 3857 02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:08,880 four and a half specifically and then 3858 02:54:08,880 --> 02:54:12,439 the four 4.9 was it for well they said 3859 02:54:12,439 --> 02:54:15,520 4.9 for consumer pric index increase in 3860 02:54:15,520 --> 02:54:17,920 the minimum wage for part-time staff 3861 02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:19,200 which I can't I don't know how many 3862 02:54:19,200 --> 02:54:21,920 part-time staff they have Mike but you 3863 02:54:21,920 --> 02:54:23,640 know a dollar there's a 15 all I'm 3864 02:54:23,640 --> 02:54:26,880 saying there's a 15% increase with no 3865 02:54:26,880 --> 02:54:28,840 explanation they've got one of them 3866 02:54:28,840 --> 02:54:31,279 names which is four and a half of and 3867 02:54:31,279 --> 02:54:32,800 actually the amendment would be Nancy 3868 02:54:32,800 --> 02:54:34,479 what you said which was you could come 3869 02:54:34,479 --> 02:54:36,120 back to us answering the question is 3870 02:54:36,120 --> 02:54:39,800 what happens if we as a council say 3871 02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:42,680 no I don't I don't know who seconded it 3872 02:54:42,680 --> 02:54:47,229 if they'd be okay with that that was 3873 02:54:47,239 --> 02:54:49,319 councilth are you okay with that Mike 3874 02:54:49,319 --> 02:54:51,560 the two amendments they come back with 3875 02:54:51,560 --> 02:54:54,319 the comparison and the answer is what 3876 02:54:54,319 --> 02:54:57,550 happens if we don't want to 3877 02:54:57,560 --> 02:55:00,399 pay and they aren't they asking for this 3878 02:55:00,399 --> 02:55:02,160 to be done by the middle of November so 3879 02:55:02,160 --> 02:55:06,560 they can get their budget this is the 3880 02:55:06,560 --> 02:55:09,160 draft well the funny thing is the report 3881 02:55:09,160 --> 02:55:12,439 asks for information for us for our 3882 02:55:12,439 --> 02:55:14,359 budget considerations but we don't do 3883 02:55:14,359 --> 02:55:16,239 our budget until January but they want 3884 02:55:16,239 --> 02:55:18,880 to know they're doing their budget now 3885 02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:20,680 and that's what Catches Us all little 3886 02:55:20,680 --> 02:55:23,359 every year doesn't it 3887 02:55:23,359 --> 02:55:26,080 yeah so basically if you say yes you're 3888 02:55:26,080 --> 02:55:28,880 committed to that number come January 3889 02:55:28,880 --> 02:55:32,600 that that number is already in 3890 02:55:32,600 --> 02:55:35,399 there and I guess maybe another question 3891 02:55:35,399 --> 02:55:38,000 John you could answer Mr Mayor is do we 3892 02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:39,560 have to belong to the lower Trent 3893 02:55:39,560 --> 02:55:42,160 Conservation Area is that 3894 02:55:42,160 --> 02:55:45,040 mandatory or are people allowed to if 3895 02:55:45,040 --> 02:55:47,000 they don't agree with it 3896 02:55:47,000 --> 02:55:50,160 to I I I don't know but I expect that 3897 02:55:50,160 --> 02:55:51,760 there's something on the municipal act 3898 02:55:51,760 --> 02:55:53,760 that says and and I believe there's a 3899 02:55:53,760 --> 02:55:55,399 lot of implications through you mayor 3900 02:55:55,399 --> 02:56:00,319 logal uh for planning as well as um uh 3901 02:56:00,319 --> 02:56:03,279 some of the building issues as well and 3902 02:56:03,279 --> 02:56:05,200 potentially Transportation three that I 3903 02:56:05,200 --> 02:56:06,520 can think of off the top of my head 3904 02:56:06,520 --> 02:56:08,120 certainly 3905 02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:11,399 planning and it would be more more than 3906 02:56:11,399 --> 02:56:12,359 if I 3907 02:56:12,359 --> 02:56:15,359 may it would be more than what we are 3908 02:56:15,359 --> 02:56:17,560 paying here if we have to start going 3909 02:56:17,560 --> 02:56:22,479 and Hiring Our Own people to do these 3910 02:56:22,479 --> 02:56:25,840 things but we're paying for that no but 3911 02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:30,120 if we if we decided to leave okay lower 3912 02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:32,319 Trent but then you're saying you think 3913 02:56:32,319 --> 02:56:38,239 we're mandated to use a well I I know I think that if there's something 3914 02:56:38,239 --> 02:56:39,920 special that they're doing where we ask 3915 02:56:39,920 --> 02:56:43,160 them to to uh give an opinion on on a uh 3916 02:56:43,160 --> 02:56:44,600 build uh build 3917 02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:47,200 plan or something like that that they 3918 02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:50,600 actually send us a bill for that do they 3919 02:56:50,600 --> 02:56:52,560 that's on top of what we're paying now 3920 02:56:52,560 --> 02:56:54,479 on top of on 3921 02:56:54,479 --> 02:57:00,080 top or whatever it is every time that you give them uh you ask 3922 02:57:00,080 --> 02:57:02,080 them for their comments yes you're buil 3923 02:57:02,080 --> 02:57:05,439 to that a well if that's the case I 3924 02:57:05,439 --> 02:57:07,239 definitely want to look into it because 3925 02:57:07,239 --> 02:57:09,520 we're going from 3926 02:57:09,520 --> 02:57:21,950 122,000 to 145,000 increase that's huge 3927 02:57:21,960 --> 02:57:24,359 you want to get Nick and cruy involed 3928 02:57:24,359 --> 02:57:26,239 want to ask Nick and cruy any questions 3929 02:57:26,239 --> 02:57:29,920 or we let da do that we 3930 02:57:29,920 --> 02:57:32,439 can yeah if you just research it for us 3931 02:57:32,439 --> 02:57:34,720 next time you come back with it they 3932 02:57:34,720 --> 02:57:36,920 yeah and are they coming have they asked 3933 02:57:36,920 --> 02:57:40,359 her the delegation to council 3934 02:57:40,359 --> 02:57:44,279 yet no I don't I don't believe so don't 3935 02:57:44,279 --> 02:57:45,720 we normally do that right she usually 3936 02:57:45,720 --> 02:57:47,319 comes in the fall and does her 3937 02:57:47,319 --> 02:57:50,319 presentation and because I remember this 3938 02:57:50,319 --> 02:57:54,040 came up last year too yeah it's come up 3939 02:57:54,040 --> 02:57:56,600 many there's a big discrepancy in in 3940 02:57:56,600 --> 02:57:59,120 both of the conservation and I know we 3941 02:57:59,120 --> 02:58:02,319 have more more land with the lower Trent 3942 02:58:02,319 --> 02:58:04,319 one but it's the percentage that I'm 3943 02:58:04,319 --> 02:58:06,399 concerned of is if you're raising the 3944 02:58:06,399 --> 02:58:09,200 total budget by 19% and one of them is 3945 02:58:09,200 --> 02:58:11,359 Raising it by 5% there's a huge 3946 02:58:11,359 --> 02:58:14,560 difference of and I believe I know why 3947 02:58:14,560 --> 02:58:16,279 because when I served on ganaraska and 3948 02:58:16,279 --> 02:58:19,720 this is just what I noticed is when coid 3949 02:58:19,720 --> 02:58:21,520 hit with ganaraska they were very 3950 02:58:21,520 --> 02:58:23,680 efficient with any part-time staff or 3951 02:58:23,680 --> 02:58:25,960 temporary staff that they had in that 3952 02:58:25,960 --> 02:58:28,120 they cut them all they to try and save 3953 02:58:28,120 --> 02:58:31,200 money because the the uh Center wasn't 3954 02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:33,000 open anything that they didn't have to 3955 02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:35,479 have stuff they said I'm sorry we you 3956 02:58:35,479 --> 02:58:37,399 know you're temporary or whatever we I 3957 02:58:37,399 --> 02:58:39,200 don't think that's happening and Trenton 3958 02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:40,840 Mike maybe you can answer it seems like 3959 02:58:40,840 --> 02:58:43,040 they want to take these part-time people 3960 02:58:43,040 --> 02:58:44,880 and make them fulltime time when a time 3961 02:58:44,880 --> 02:58:47,160 when things should be less work for them 3962 02:58:47,160 --> 02:58:50,600 instead of more but that's just my 3963 02:58:50,600 --> 02:58:52,680 opinion is there anything is there any 3964 02:58:52,680 --> 02:58:54,760 sense in proceeding with what Dave was 3965 02:58:54,760 --> 02:58:57,080 saying about the committee and who's 3966 02:58:57,080 --> 02:58:59,800 involved in 3967 02:58:59,800 --> 02:59:03,279 whe mayor um Mike answorth I believe is 3968 02:59:03,279 --> 02:59:05,359 going to grab that information for us 3969 02:59:05,359 --> 02:59:06,720 yeah he's you're going to get that 3970 02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:08,680 information yeah and you'll give that to 3971 02:59:08,680 --> 02:59:10,479 staff and then they'll do what they 3972 02:59:10,479 --> 02:59:13,520 think is necessary that's good all in 3973 02:59:13,520 --> 02:59:15,239 favor 3974 02:59:15,239 --> 02:59:25,429 motion's 3975 02:59:25,439 --> 02:59:28,359 carried uh resolution regarding this is 3976 02:59:28,359 --> 02:59:30,680 178 resolution regarding amendments to 3977 02:59:30,680 --> 02:59:32,600 the highway traffic act whereas the 3978 02:59:32,600 --> 02:59:35,120 Council of the township valck hemman 3979 02:59:35,120 --> 02:59:36,680 previously dealt with a similar 3980 02:59:36,680 --> 02:59:38,279 resolution be resolved the council 3981 02:59:38,279 --> 02:59:39,479 received the correspondence from the 3982 02:59:39,479 --> 02:59:41,399 township of crammy and the region of 3983 02:59:41,399 --> 02:59:43,439 durm regarding amendments to the highway 3984 02:59:43,439 --> 02:59:47,080 traffic act for information R second 3985 02:59:47,080 --> 02:59:48,520 approved by Deputy Mayor stobber 3986 02:59:48,520 --> 02:59:50,800 seconded by councelor O'Neal further 3987 02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:59,190 discussion all in favor motion's 3988 02:59:59,200 --> 03:00:01,399 Carri no we've already we've already 3989 03:00:01,399 --> 03:00:05,590 done that 3990 03:00:05,600 --> 03:00:11,590 one we we' already did that six months 3991 03:00:11,600 --> 03:00:15,319 ago uh city of uh Cambridge declaring 3992 03:00:15,319 --> 03:00:20,080 intimate power partner violence I pbn 3993 03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:21,800 epidemic be resolve the Council of 3994 03:00:21,800 --> 03:00:24,640 Township B mman received the resolution 3995 03:00:24,640 --> 03:00:27,479 regarding declaring intimate partner 3996 03:00:27,479 --> 03:00:30,239 violence ipv an epidemic from the city 3997 03:00:30,239 --> 03:00:33,239 of Cambridge for information I moov a 3998 03:00:33,239 --> 03:00:35,600 second for 3999 03:00:35,600 --> 03:00:41,910 that Mo by councelor O'Neal seconded 4000 03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:44,439 by Deputy Mayor St 4001 03:00:44,439 --> 03:00:46,279 any 4002 03:00:46,279 --> 03:00:48,160 discussion all in 4003 03:00:48,160 --> 03:00:55,750 favor motions 4004 03:00:55,760 --> 03:00:59,000 carried 1710 request for financial 4005 03:00:59,000 --> 03:01:00,640 support from the west north umland 4006 03:01:00,640 --> 03:01:03,120 position Recruitment and Retention board 4007 03:01:03,120 --> 03:01:04,560 be it resolved the Council of the 4008 03:01:04,560 --> 03:01:06,720 township of Al McAn having reviewed the 4009 03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:09,000 correspondence for request for financial 4010 03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:10,479 support from the west north umland 4011 03:01:10,479 --> 03:01:14,800 position Recruitment and Retention board hereby I provide the following 4012 03:01:14,800 --> 03:01:16,720 direction to 4013 03:01:16,720 --> 03:01:20,720 sta moved by Council 4014 03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:23,160 O'Neal logal I'd like to make that a 4015 03:01:23,160 --> 03:01:26,040 motion to postpone please until and 4016 03:01:26,040 --> 03:01:28,160 bring that back get a second on the 4017 03:01:28,160 --> 03:01:30,920 table first second by councel 4018 03:01:30,920 --> 03:01:34,080 answorth go ahead councelor O'Neal sorry 4019 03:01:34,080 --> 03:01:37,160 it my motion is to motion a motion to 4020 03:01:37,160 --> 03:01:40,200 postpone this item and to bring it back 4021 03:01:40,200 --> 03:01:43,279 as part of our grant uh discussions 4022 03:01:43,279 --> 03:01:44,960 during 4023 03:01:44,960 --> 03:01:47,680 budget are you okay with that 4024 03:01:47,680 --> 03:01:50,800 motion uh through loo kind of but we've 4025 03:01:50,800 --> 03:01:53,000 had discussions on this this item 4026 03:01:53,000 --> 03:01:57,680 through budget time right so I 4027 03:01:57,680 --> 03:02:00,160 mean to me it has to be a budget item 4028 03:02:00,160 --> 03:02:01,600 even if we're going to continue with 4029 03:02:01,600 --> 03:02:04,319 that that was it has to be it has to be 4030 03:02:04,319 --> 03:02:08,590 budget I agree 4031 03:02:08,600 --> 03:02:12,160 yeah anybody else got a comment coun 4032 03:02:12,160 --> 03:02:14,080 Booth I'm not sure what 4033 03:02:14,080 --> 03:02:15,680 councelor O'Neal can explain it or 4034 03:02:15,680 --> 03:02:18,200 something but I believe in past councils 4035 03:02:18,200 --> 03:02:19,560 they used to come and have a three-year 4036 03:02:19,560 --> 03:02:21,160 deal with us or something where they 4037 03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:23,319 would say this is what it is for the 4038 03:02:23,319 --> 03:02:25,160 next three years and then we put it in 4039 03:02:25,160 --> 03:02:27,359 there this now is saying that we're 4040 03:02:27,359 --> 03:02:30,080 going up to $ 4041 03:02:30,080 --> 03:02:32,040 9,967 so it looks like they're 4042 03:02:32,040 --> 03:02:34,399 increasing from last year but I would 4043 03:02:34,399 --> 03:02:36,800 agree with you like to just postpone the 4044 03:02:36,800 --> 03:02:39,080 discussion okay if you've got questions 4045 03:02:39,080 --> 03:02:41,239 you can just call me and when it comes 4046 03:02:41,239 --> 03:02:45,319 back I'll be prepared okay 4047 03:02:45,319 --> 03:02:46,279 further 4048 03:02:46,279 --> 03:02:50,200 comments um through May so how long are 4049 03:02:50,200 --> 03:02:51,520 we going to postpone 4050 03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:54,880 it what sorry until they come back 4051 03:02:54,880 --> 03:02:56,880 during Grant discussions as part of 4052 03:02:56,880 --> 03:02:58,680 budget the same as they did last year 4053 03:02:58,680 --> 03:03:00,479 councelor in 4054 03:03:00,479 --> 03:03:02,520 okay all in 4055 03:03:02,520 --> 03:03:12,469 favor motions 4056 03:03:12,479 --> 03:03:16,469 carried 4057 03:03:16,479 --> 03:03:20,239 next one is 1711 birds eye view game 4058 03:03:20,239 --> 03:03:22,560 farm be resolve the Council of the 4059 03:03:22,560 --> 03:03:25,000 township Val received the correspondence 4060 03:03:25,000 --> 03:03:28,160 regarding birge I view game farm from 4061 03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:33,349 Bruce jeninga and Jane clawen 4062 03:03:33,359 --> 03:03:37,070 jeninga Ruben the 4063 03:03:37,080 --> 03:03:39,560 seconder moved by councelor Booth second 4064 03:03:39,560 --> 03:03:41,080 by councelor 4065 03:03:41,080 --> 03:03:45,080 O'Neal discussion 4066 03:03:45,080 --> 03:03:53,150 seeing none all in favor motions 4067 03:03:53,160 --> 03:03:56,960 Carri uh this was added uh 181 was added 4068 03:03:56,960 --> 03:04:00,680 to the agenda it's a by law to allow our 4069 03:04:00,680 --> 03:04:03,960 former acting CAO clerk Pat Kemp to 4070 03:04:03,960 --> 03:04:07,520 perform a Civic marriage Solomon isation 4071 03:04:07,520 --> 03:04:10,160 which she had arranged to do for two 4072 03:04:10,160 --> 03:04:13,000 Alam moldman Township residents prior to 4073 03:04:13,000 --> 03:04:15,120 leaving the 4074 03:04:15,120 --> 03:04:19,000 township and the resolution 4075 03:04:19,000 --> 03:04:23,800 reads it resolved that bylaw number 106 4076 03:04:23,800 --> 03:04:26,560 2023 being a bylaw to authorize ass 4077 03:04:26,560 --> 03:04:28,239 signing and execution of an agreement 4078 03:04:28,239 --> 03:04:30,479 between the corporation of the township 4079 03:04:30,479 --> 03:04:33,160 of Al moldman and Pat Camp to perform a 4080 03:04:33,160 --> 03:04:37,120 CI civil marriage solmization to be read 4081 03:04:37,120 --> 03:04:39,000 and deemed pass this third day of 4082 03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:41,279 October 4083 03:04:41,279 --> 03:04:44,399 2023 can I get a move in a second 4084 03:04:44,399 --> 03:04:46,800 mov by councelor Boo seconded by councel 4085 03:04:46,800 --> 03:04:48,640 inworth any 4086 03:04:48,640 --> 03:04:53,040 discussion go ahead well I just say um 4087 03:04:53,040 --> 03:04:56,279 that I noticed in Reading uh further it 4088 03:04:56,279 --> 03:04:59,840 is just for the period of one day yes 4089 03:04:59,840 --> 03:05:01,960 and I don't believe that reads like that 4090 03:05:01,960 --> 03:05:06,439 but it it's known so um that would be 4091 03:05:06,439 --> 03:05:08,239 I'm good with 4092 03:05:08,239 --> 03:05:11,960 it it's within the Bible it's on the B 4093 03:05:11,960 --> 03:05:15,600 yeah okay that's in bylaw you heard that 4094 03:05:15,600 --> 03:05:19,120 okay um any further discussion all in 4095 03:05:19,120 --> 03:05:32,630 favor motion's 4096 03:05:32,640 --> 03:05:35,040 carried number 4097 03:05:35,040 --> 03:05:37,640 20 oh announcements thank 4098 03:05:37,640 --> 03:05:40,720 you uh and today we start off with 4099 03:05:40,720 --> 03:05:45,640 counselor Mary CER all right um 4100 03:05:45,640 --> 03:05:51,030 I notice that's only for 4101 03:05:51,040 --> 03:05:54,720 information um just that the Ros need 4102 03:05:54,720 --> 03:05:57,200 fair was a huge success this year H 4103 03:05:57,200 --> 03:05:59,520 congratulations to the egg society that 4104 03:05:59,520 --> 03:06:01,359 is volunteers coming together and 4105 03:06:01,359 --> 03:06:04,000 pulling off a really large event I want 4106 03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:06,640 to commend them on continuing to make it 4107 03:06:06,640 --> 03:06:09,080 free admission for children and I'm 4108 03:06:09,080 --> 03:06:11,279 going to add to that I saw a lot of kids 4109 03:06:11,279 --> 03:06:14,239 walking around with bed eggs to take out 4110 03:06:14,239 --> 03:06:17,520 on Halloween full of information on fire 4111 03:06:17,520 --> 03:06:19,840 safety and it did look like they were 4112 03:06:19,840 --> 03:06:22,640 very thrilled with that and um there 4113 03:06:22,640 --> 03:06:26,120 were more Youth and Home and Garden 4114 03:06:26,120 --> 03:06:28,800 um submissions and there has been for a 4115 03:06:28,800 --> 03:06:30,960 number of years which was wonderful to 4116 03:06:30,960 --> 03:06:33,800 see and uh just a shout out to the 4117 03:06:33,800 --> 03:06:36,800 firefighters in general they were there 4118 03:06:36,800 --> 03:06:40,319 during the day with the safety trailer 4119 03:06:40,319 --> 03:06:41,920 and then they were there in the evening 4120 03:06:41,920 --> 03:06:44,560 as well to support the events and they 4121 03:06:44,560 --> 03:06:46,920 looked professional and and did a great 4122 03:06:46,920 --> 03:06:50,279 job and just I did notice as I was 4123 03:06:50,279 --> 03:06:52,000 driving down here that the Fire Halls 4124 03:06:52,000 --> 03:06:53,840 are looking beautiful with the planters 4125 03:06:53,840 --> 03:06:57,160 out front and uh everything 4126 03:06:57,160 --> 03:07:00,760 so thank you Mary C councelor Booth yeah 4127 03:07:00,760 --> 03:07:02,520 just a reminder that if anybody wishes 4128 03:07:02,520 --> 03:07:05,520 to have tickets for the musical shout 4129 03:07:05,520 --> 03:07:07,960 sisters which is being put on by the 4130 03:07:07,960 --> 03:07:12,040 library which is on October 21st at 7 4131 03:07:12,040 --> 03:07:14,840 p.m at St George Anglican Church it's 4132 03:07:14,840 --> 03:07:17,200 $20 a ticket and there's a show and then 4133 03:07:17,200 --> 03:07:18,840 desserts afterwards you can just come 4134 03:07:18,840 --> 03:07:22,830 and see me that's it thank 4135 03:07:22,840 --> 03:07:26,279 you um Deputy Mayor 4136 03:07:26,279 --> 03:07:29,880 stelber um i' just like again to uh 4137 03:07:29,880 --> 03:07:33,000 commend the Ros Fair on having such a 4138 03:07:33,000 --> 03:07:34,200 great 4139 03:07:34,200 --> 03:07:38,880 fair I know they had um a few hiccups 4140 03:07:38,880 --> 03:07:43,200 and uh I commended uh Miss Foreman on 4141 03:07:43,200 --> 03:07:46,399 her quick turnaround and responses to 4142 03:07:46,399 --> 03:07:49,840 get things done when there was an issue 4143 03:07:49,840 --> 03:07:53,000 and uh it it was really good to see such 4144 03:07:53,000 --> 03:07:54,200 Community 4145 03:07:54,200 --> 03:07:56,840 Spirit uh councelor Booth I have my 4146 03:07:56,840 --> 03:07:58,479 ticket I'm not sure if I'm going to be 4147 03:07:58,479 --> 03:08:01,920 able to attend that day I have a another 4148 03:08:01,920 --> 03:08:05,080 event but I I have got my ticket and I 4149 03:08:05,080 --> 03:08:08,760 just like to um wish everybody a Happy 4150 03:08:08,760 --> 03:08:11,960 Thanksgiving and uh it's going to be a 4151 03:08:11,960 --> 03:08:13,680 good weekend 4152 03:08:13,680 --> 03:08:16,680 thank you c 4153 03:08:16,680 --> 03:08:20,760 r through you Meritt I I'd like to make 4154 03:08:20,760 --> 03:08:23,840 a notice a motion another one here today 4155 03:08:23,840 --> 03:08:25,960 that staff put together a red flag 4156 03:08:25,960 --> 03:08:28,399 system on our budget because we've had 4157 03:08:28,399 --> 03:08:30,359 so many overages on our budget 4158 03:08:30,359 --> 03:08:35,080 already um the the 4159 03:08:35,080 --> 03:08:38,000 um the uh report that came to us today 4160 03:08:38,000 --> 03:08:40,920 there was between budgets and actuals 4161 03:08:40,920 --> 03:08:43,880 they were you know they were over there 4162 03:08:43,880 --> 03:08:46,520 and um so I would just like to see us 4163 03:08:46,520 --> 03:08:54,120 have some kind of a red flag system that uh managers are or U you know talk 4164 03:08:54,120 --> 03:08:55,680 to about their budget before they're 4165 03:08:55,680 --> 03:08:57,160 getting over because I mean some of it 4166 03:08:57,160 --> 03:09:00,560 when it's actual or it's um like a 4167 03:09:00,560 --> 03:09:02,800 budget number for the quarter you know 4168 03:09:02,800 --> 03:09:03,920 they might be over on the quarter but 4169 03:09:03,920 --> 03:09:05,560 they're under on on the on the yearly 4170 03:09:05,560 --> 03:09:07,439 one so we really don't count it until 4171 03:09:07,439 --> 03:09:10,200 they're over on all of it so can we 4172 03:09:10,200 --> 03:09:11,040 catch it 4173 03:09:11,040 --> 03:09:13,560 earlier so we don't get these to us all 4174 03:09:13,560 --> 03:09:16,110 the 4175 03:09:16,120 --> 03:09:17,920 time 4176 03:09:17,920 --> 03:09:20,600 ahead I can address that in Nicole's 4177 03:09:20,600 --> 03:09:22,960 absence Council answorth um and In 4178 03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:25,720 fairness to to Nicole her and I have not 4179 03:09:25,720 --> 03:09:27,600 been able to have our meeting and we do 4180 03:09:27,600 --> 03:09:29,160 have that planned for 4181 03:09:29,160 --> 03:09:30,880 Thursday 4182 03:09:30,880 --> 03:09:34,399 um uh when it comes to the quarter 4183 03:09:34,399 --> 03:09:37,040 reporting uh some things that are within 4184 03:09:37,040 --> 03:09:40,000 the budget 4185 03:09:40,000 --> 03:09:44,359 um take up the entire budget line um 4186 03:09:44,359 --> 03:09:45,960 they're not necessarily Broken Out In 4187 03:09:45,960 --> 03:09:47,960 quarters especially when it comes to 4188 03:09:47,960 --> 03:09:50,239 purchasing uh so that that makes it a 4189 03:09:50,239 --> 03:09:51,319 little bit 4190 03:09:51,319 --> 03:09:54,040 misleading um there's another aspect in 4191 03:09:54,040 --> 03:09:55,600 that is the computer system that we're 4192 03:09:55,600 --> 03:09:58,560 using called Keystone um I got to have a 4193 03:09:58,560 --> 03:10:01,960 look at it yesterday and In fairness to 4194 03:10:01,960 --> 03:10:03,840 Nicole I would like to meet with her 4195 03:10:03,840 --> 03:10:07,080 before I bring that back to council uh 4196 03:10:07,080 --> 03:10:08,800 the program that we implemented here is 4197 03:10:08,800 --> 03:10:11,800 not at the hands of Nicole um but the 4198 03:10:11,800 --> 03:10:17,510 program that we do have will say 4199 03:10:17,520 --> 03:10:21,120 is not very up todate so there's many 4200 03:10:21,120 --> 03:10:23,160 things in the accounting systems that we 4201 03:10:23,160 --> 03:10:24,880 do need to be able to do one of which 4202 03:10:24,880 --> 03:10:25,800 you've 4203 03:10:25,800 --> 03:10:29,479 identified um uh we do need to give our 4204 03:10:29,479 --> 03:10:32,800 senior staff access so that they can 4205 03:10:32,800 --> 03:10:35,279 track but we also need something that is 4206 03:10:35,279 --> 03:10:36,840 a lot more userfriendly 4207 03:10:36,840 --> 03:10:39,439 um I was sadden to see that QuickBooks 4208 03:10:39,439 --> 03:10:42,040 is a lot further ahead than a robust 4209 03:10:42,040 --> 03:10:44,760 Municipal program like Keystone so we 4210 03:10:44,760 --> 03:10:47,120 have we have we have some work to do and 4211 03:10:47,120 --> 03:10:49,479 it will get sorted 4212 03:10:49,479 --> 03:10:52,590 out 4213 03:10:52,600 --> 03:10:56,800 okay so do I so I guess then do I need 4214 03:10:56,800 --> 03:11:00,439 my motion if I can rely on that report 4215 03:11:00,439 --> 03:11:02,359 okay then I'll 4216 03:11:02,359 --> 03:11:06,670 withdraw 4217 03:11:06,680 --> 03:11:10,359 thanks um I to attended all pardon me 4218 03:11:10,359 --> 03:11:13,439 RNE and it was very very good it was so 4219 03:11:13,439 --> 03:11:16,840 stick and hot though that anybody was 4220 03:11:16,840 --> 03:11:18,840 there was suffering almost but it was it 4221 03:11:18,840 --> 03:11:20,600 was much better than the snow that I 4222 03:11:20,600 --> 03:11:23,000 seen flying around with that as well 4223 03:11:23,000 --> 03:11:25,600 they had a a fantastic Saturday 4224 03:11:25,600 --> 03:11:28,160 unbelievable Saturday and I believe 4225 03:11:28,160 --> 03:11:30,000 Sunday was went very 4226 03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:32,399 well2 didn't didn't hear the results for 4227 03:11:32,399 --> 03:11:34,800 somebody but I didn't hear that I also 4228 03:11:34,800 --> 03:11:38,720 attended the um alderville national day 4229 03:11:38,720 --> 03:11:39,840 of Truth and 4230 03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:43,800 Reconciliation very well attended by 4231 03:11:43,800 --> 03:11:46,279 uh lots of people that were dressed in 4232 03:11:46,279 --> 03:11:49,920 the orange shirt dat and really it was 4233 03:11:49,920 --> 03:11:52,040 really uh lasted for about an hour and 4234 03:11:52,040 --> 03:11:54,120 15 minutes there was lots of people 4235 03:11:54,120 --> 03:11:56,200 there that were busing them in from the 4236 03:11:56,200 --> 03:12:00,239 uh it was held at the medical center uh 4237 03:12:00,239 --> 03:12:02,000 because they they were afraid to used 4238 03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:04,239 the the road because of all the business 4239 03:12:04,239 --> 03:12:07,560 busy with the uh with the ACCC and or 4240 03:12:07,560 --> 03:12:10,359 pardon the bear going I also attended 4241 03:12:10,359 --> 03:12:15,359 the evening in Port hul for the change 4242 03:12:15,359 --> 03:12:16,520 aspiring 4243 03:12:16,520 --> 03:12:19,960 change and they showed about half an 4244 03:12:19,960 --> 03:12:24,279 hour 40 minutes of a um they went 4245 03:12:24,279 --> 03:12:26,920 directly to Winnipeg and showed the 4246 03:12:26,920 --> 03:12:30,309 Museum 4247 03:12:30,319 --> 03:12:35,760 of um Museum of can't think reg way 4248 03:12:35,760 --> 03:12:38,640 putting it now basically uh rights 4249 03:12:38,640 --> 03:12:41,279 freedom and rights and they had a museum 4250 03:12:41,279 --> 03:12:43,279 there was beautiful actually 4251 03:12:43,279 --> 03:12:45,160 but that so that lasted for about half 4252 03:12:45,160 --> 03:12:47,000 an hour and the other portion of it 4253 03:12:47,000 --> 03:12:49,279 which is much better as a panel 4254 03:12:49,279 --> 03:12:53,680 discussion of two um female First 4255 03:12:53,680 --> 03:12:54,920 Nations 4256 03:12:54,920 --> 03:12:57,560 ladies uh one was the mother and one was 4257 03:12:57,560 --> 03:13:00,160 the daughter and they talked about all 4258 03:13:00,160 --> 03:13:01,680 the things that they've been exposed to 4259 03:13:01,680 --> 03:13:04,399 in the last several years they didn't 4260 03:13:04,399 --> 03:13:06,840 talk too much about missing children but 4261 03:13:06,840 --> 03:13:09,120 it was we did talk about not other 4262 03:13:09,120 --> 03:13:11,000 things and what I found particularly 4263 03:13:11,000 --> 03:13:15,760 interesting was that when a First Nation 4264 03:13:15,760 --> 03:13:20,600 lady married her a white person husband 4265 03:13:20,600 --> 03:13:25,600 she lost all of her um rights 4266 03:13:25,600 --> 03:13:29,239 status and that was not the reverse so 4267 03:13:29,239 --> 03:13:33,239 it was very very surprising to me and 4268 03:13:33,239 --> 03:13:35,600 certainly not not the best way to be as 4269 03:13:35,600 --> 03:13:37,359 far as in my 4270 03:13:37,359 --> 03:13:41,560 opinion uh that's it except for the 4271 03:13:41,560 --> 03:13:45,030 proclamation 4272 03:13:45,040 --> 03:13:47,000 uh local government week whereas the 4273 03:13:47,000 --> 03:13:49,920 week of October 15 to 21st is local 4274 03:13:49,920 --> 03:13:51,319 government week in intario and 4275 03:13:51,319 --> 03:13:52,960 opportunities to reflect the vital 4276 03:13:52,960 --> 03:13:54,600 Services delivered by Municipal 4277 03:13:54,600 --> 03:13:56,160 governments and whereas Municipal 4278 03:13:56,160 --> 03:13:58,920 governments play a vital role in helping 4279 03:13:58,920 --> 03:14:02,279 the to define the character priorities 4280 03:14:02,279 --> 03:14:04,399 physical makeup and quality of life of 4281 03:14:04,399 --> 03:14:07,040 communities across inario there now 4282 03:14:07,040 --> 03:14:09,359 therefore be it resolved that I John L 4283 03:14:09,359 --> 03:14:10,920 on behalf of the Council of the township 4284 03:14:10,920 --> 03:14:14,200 Val mman do hereby join with Partners 4285 03:14:14,200 --> 03:14:16,040 such as the onaral Ministry of Municipal 4286 03:14:16,040 --> 03:14:18,319 Affairs and hosing and the association 4287 03:14:18,319 --> 03:14:20,760 of Municipal municipalities of Ontario 4288 03:14:20,760 --> 03:14:23,160 in acknowledging and celebrating the 4289 03:14:23,160 --> 03:14:25,600 work of local municipalities by 4290 03:14:25,600 --> 03:14:29,200 proclaiming October 15 to 21st 2023 as 4291 03:14:29,200 --> 03:14:32,720 local government week signed by yourself 4292 03:14:32,720 --> 03:14:35,279 dated October 3rd and thank you very 4293 03:14:35,279 --> 03:14:36,840 much for putting that together that was 4294 03:14:36,840 --> 03:14:39,750 very well 4295 03:14:39,760 --> 03:14:44,550 written well thank youand I love that 4296 03:14:44,560 --> 03:14:47,600 perfect and the next one is a 4297 03:14:47,600 --> 03:14:50,439 proclamation child care worker and early 4298 03:14:50,439 --> 03:14:54,279 childhood education appreciation day 4299 03:14:54,279 --> 03:14:58,880 this is on October 17 2023 and whereas 4300 03:14:58,880 --> 03:15:01,040 years of research confirms the benefits 4301 03:15:01,040 --> 03:15:04,920 of highquality child care for young CH 4302 03:15:04,920 --> 03:15:07,359 children's int intellectual emotional 4303 03:15:07,359 --> 03:15:09,720 social and physical development and 4304 03:15:09,720 --> 03:15:12,560 later life outcomes and whereas child 4305 03:15:12,560 --> 03:15:15,520 care promotion promotes the well-being 4306 03:15:15,520 --> 03:15:17,640 of children and responds to the needs of 4307 03:15:17,640 --> 03:15:19,840 parents and the broader Community by 4308 03:15:19,840 --> 03:15:22,120 supporting quality of life so that 4309 03:15:22,120 --> 03:15:25,239 citizens can fully participate in and 4310 03:15:25,239 --> 03:15:27,199 contribute to the economic and social 4311 03:15:27,199 --> 03:15:29,920 life of their community and whereas 4312 03:15:29,920 --> 03:15:32,080 training and knowledgeable Early 4313 03:15:32,080 --> 03:15:34,800 Childhood Educators and Child Care staff 4314 03:15:34,800 --> 03:15:38,120 are the key to Quality in early learning 4315 03:15:38,120 --> 03:15:40,439 and child care programs and Champions 4316 03:15:40,439 --> 03:15:42,960 for Children now therefore be resolved 4317 03:15:42,960 --> 03:15:45,040 that I John Lal on behalf of the Council 4318 03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:47,560 of Township Valen cman to hereby 4319 03:15:47,560 --> 03:15:50,520 Proclaim October 17th to be child care 4320 03:15:50,520 --> 03:15:53,800 worker and early childhood education 4321 03:15:53,800 --> 03:15:56,640 Appreciation Day in recognition of the 4322 03:15:56,640 --> 03:15:59,479 education dedication and commitment of 4323 03:15:59,479 --> 03:16:00,399 child 4324 03:16:00,399 --> 03:16:03,080 workers to Children their families and 4325 03:16:03,080 --> 03:16:05,359 quality of life in the 4326 03:16:05,359 --> 03:16:08,319 community dated October 3rd 4327 03:16:08,319 --> 03:16:16,189 2023 and is that is that the purple we approve from day 4328 03:16:16,199 --> 03:16:21,309 two that would be 4329 03:16:21,319 --> 03:16:24,399 M uh Council resolution 4330 03:16:24,399 --> 03:16:28,960 22-1 bylaw number 105 2023 be byw to 4331 03:16:28,960 --> 03:16:30,239 confer the proceedings of the regular 4332 03:16:30,239 --> 03:16:32,359 Council session and close session held 4333 03:16:32,359 --> 03:16:34,680 on Tuesday October 3rd 4334 03:16:34,680 --> 03:16:38,319 2023 be it resolved that bylaw 105 2023 4335 03:16:38,319 --> 03:16:39,960 being a bylaw to confirm the proceedings 4336 03:16:39,960 --> 03:16:41,800 of the regular session and closed 4337 03:16:41,800 --> 03:16:47,439 session of Council held on October 3rd 2023 we read and deem passed 4338 03:16:47,439 --> 03:16:50,960 this third day of October 2023 Pro 4339 03:16:50,960 --> 03:16:53,680 second moved by Council reignwood 4340 03:16:53,680 --> 03:16:56,279 seconded by Deputy Mayor sturn all in 4341 03:16:56,279 --> 03:16:58,640 favor motions 4342 03:16:58,640 --> 03:17:00,600 Carri and 4343 03:17:00,600 --> 03:17:05,080 finally finally motion to adjourn 4344 03:17:05,080 --> 03:17:07,800 and uh be it resolved that the regular 4345 03:17:07,800 --> 03:17:10,279 council meeting of Tuesday October 3rd 4346 03:17:10,279 --> 03:17:14,279 2023 be adjourned at 4 438 p.m. R 4347 03:17:14,279 --> 03:17:17,199 secondary mov by Council O'Neal seconded 4348 03:17:17,199 --> 03:17:20,640 by Council rinworth all in favor motion 4349 03:17:20,640 --> 03:17:22,319 carried thank you 4350 03:17:22,319 --> 03:17:26,479 everyone thank you people