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Good evening, everyone.

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Thank you all for joining us this evening for the city council meeting and public hearings. Alfredo City Council for September 22, 2025.

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Before we get started, I will note for the record that a couple of items have been deferred. One was withdrawn, actually. The following items, if you came for these were Z-25-07 slash CU-25-11.

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5-v-25-20, alpha-redder district places, MP-25-05, CU-25-07, North Wind Summit, View,

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Vertiport. So those two items have been deferred until October 27. So you just bought

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yourself some extra time, if those items were what you were interested in this evening.

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the other item is Z-25-04-V-25-07 made well. The Milton Avenue trace has been withdrawn

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by the applicant and will not be considered this evening. So, I'll go ahead and call

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this meeting to order, note for the record, that all members of Council of President of

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for except for Council and Mitchell who will not be able to join us this evening.

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And as always, we begin our meetings with Pledge of Allegiance.

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So if you're willing and able, please stand and join us.

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So the first items we'll take up will be work session items for those of you that aren't

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familiar with how we operate.

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Work session items are not items that City Council will be voting and deciding this evening.

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they're just an opportunity for our City Council to have a public discussion to get

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information to inform and helpfully give our staff direction in the future.

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So we're not going to be voting on anything. It's just we're not allowed to

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meet in private and talk about what shouldn't shouldn't happen and stuff like

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that. So we're doing it in public. So all of you can participate in that

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discussion. So the first work session item this evening will be the

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World's Will's Park update prior to construction and Director Rogers will

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be giving the presentation.

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The City Council is just going to be reviewing in

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discussion of the construction improvement plans for Will's Park. Director you

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have.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening, Council. As always, it's a pleasure to be

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with you here tonight. Since it's been a minute since we last talked about what's getting

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ready to happen at Will's Park and the Equestrian Center, both Will's Park and the Equestrian

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Center, we thought it would be good to workshop these two projects tonight so that we're all

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on the same page because within the next couple of months it's going to be major construction

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happening throughout Will's Park. And so I think we're all going to get a lot of questions

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about things, then we're just going to try to bring you up the speed on some things.

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I'm going to move over to the overhead as we run through these packet information that

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you might have.

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It doesn't seem to be working.

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It was working earlier today.

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What is it?

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It's going to be a light film.

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It is working.

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Thank you.

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So, one of the biggest things that's getting ready to happen over at Will's Park is the

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So, one of the big things that has happened in that Will's park, as we all know, is

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to replace the middle of Wacky World.

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Wacky World is a 27, almost 28-year-old wooden playground that has seen its better days,

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if you will.

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And so, we're going to be replacing Wacky World as we know with Wacky World next generation.

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And this is a layout of the Wacky World.

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It's a little bit bigger than a current wacky world, it's going to have a better sight line,

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the fences are not going to be wooden pickets, it's going to be the metal fences that you

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can see through because one of the concerns that parents have is they wanted a line of sight

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to be able to see what their children are doing when they're playing in the playground.

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So it will be one way in and one way out that there will be a different type of fence

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and it'll also be a different type of surface. We're going to have a poured-in-place rubber

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surface, which is going to make a huge difference for folks that have mobility problems being

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able to get in and out of whack-a-word and play on whack-a-word.

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So this is what it looks like.

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There's a, where we are planning on adding one more shade component over this piece right

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here.

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And, but other than that, this is what it's going to look like.

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A couple of cool ideas is there's a zip line right here.

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This is for the older kids to play in, and this is for the smaller kids to play on, and there's swings for both age groups.

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So, we'll move on to the next photograph that I have.

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This is obviously a bird's eye view of what the playground is going to look like when it's finished, along with what the restrooms are going to look like.

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It's at the end of the day, it's just a bigger building, but we're increasing the restroom size by 150%.

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So, be 100% more bathrooms would be able to be used in Wacky World, including a family restroom will be there as well.

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You can see this area right here is going to be a stormwater feature when Wacky World was first built.

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There was no thought of, not thought, I should say that.

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There wasn't enough stormwater done, so we're going to have, and we're having to do that.

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That leads me to a major portion of my presentation tonight is how many trees we're going to have to take out.

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So always you can, if you're thinking about, if you were looking today at this same picture,

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you wouldn't be able to see wacky water in the restroom because it's covered with trees.

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There are a total of 50 trees coming out of that area, so I want everybody to understand

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that. We don't want there to be any surprises, and you know, in the next two or three weeks,

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when the chain cells arrive and those trees start following that, they're coming out.

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Now, there are, within those 50 trees, only three trees that are specimen trees, only three.

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And those will be, you know, we're going to replace those trees, but all of the trees

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are coming out. We're going to replace at least every one of those trees. So we're going to plant more

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than 50 trees back as we're doing this. But most of the trees are coming out because there's a

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stormwater knee, but also because they're within the footprint of wacky world. One of the things as

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we're moving forward we wouldn't want to build playgrounds that have trees in the middle of them

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because there are things that fall out of trees, limbs that fall,

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as other as always a safety concern.

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So between the storm water, safety to concern,

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and many of the trees are in decline,

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are in decline, so that's why we're removing the trees.

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If you want to go out there and see for yourself,

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every tree that is coming out is marked with a big red X,

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so you can see for yourself which trees are coming out.

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And I also do have, I can show it if I need to

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We have a tree study, so every tree out there was study.

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It was reviewed by our in-house arborist, as well as an outside firm that came in evaluated to trees and we came to that conclusion that the ones that needed to come out.

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A couple of other things that you'll notice here, this trail here is a spine that we'll talk about in just a minute, end up in the upper left hand corner.

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you can see where we're going to put in an additional parking lot for another 72 spaces for parking

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within Wacky World. It's currently a grass area and we're going to be making that parking lot

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because one of the different needs we have, if you've been out the Wacky World on the spring

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Saturday or fall Saturday, you'll know that parking is an issue. They usually park on that, but about half

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the number of people get the park there because whoever pulls up first decides where everybody

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part. So we'll be putting in a parking lot on that. A couple other, couple of other

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pictures that have shown, kind of give you a view of what we're going to be doing there.

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This one is, if feels one and four, ones on your left, fours on your right, we're looking

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back at it. There's going to be, we call them little nodules and throughout the park.

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those nodules will be there for people to gather and to just gather and wait and do those.

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So, these are the pictures though that I'll just want to make sure everybody understands is

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this is looking at Wacky World to the left. You can see the restroom almost to your right.

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You can see the trees are coming out. So, just want everybody to understand that. This is standing

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within Wacky World and if you look at that tree objectively you realize that tree is leaning really

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back to the left and it's inside the playground. So those are the ones that are kind of coming out

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and again another example of what's coming out that are within the playground.

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And I don't want to keep beating a dead horse but these are the crate murals that are coming out

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Again, because wacky words are getting bigger and you really don't want great murals next to your playground.

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Anyway, it's kind of like sweet guns. You don't want them anywhere close to your playground.

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If you have one in the yard, you know why you don't want it close to the playground.

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And then this is a better view of the trail and what that was coming out.

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So, I just want everybody to understand that I'm a parts guy at heart, everybody knows that.

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And I love trees as much as anybody.

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and I feel like that. I'm losing some really good old neighbors, but I hate to see them go, but they're leaving no matter what.

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And so I just want everybody to know that we didn't decide on these trees arbitrarily.

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They just have to cut my out for us to really meet the level of service that people are expecting us to meet.

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There's also part of Will's Park is we're going to have gay way entrances on both to each

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and the west side along with that spine that's going to connect the east and west side.

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We're going to let people know that we're proud of Will's Park, our downtown flagship

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park, and give them, give them an interest status as herb.

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And then in addition to that, we're going to be waggy world, not waggy world, but waggy

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world is going to get a facelift, improved drainage, a different, a new fence, there's just

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going to be two areas, a small dog area, and a large dog area, the footprints are going

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to be the same, but the drainage is going to be greatly improved as well as the amenities,

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dog friendly, spickets, and pinches, and those kind of things, so that's part of the project

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as well.

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So I think that kind of encompasses what we're doing at Wacky World, what we call proper,

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be glad to answer any questions. You may have that. Have about that before we move on to the

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questions there.

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Councilmember Brady. Thank you, Mr. Raju. I understand. I'm there all the time at Will's Park and an understand completely what you're saying. There's a lot of pine trees and there's a lot of those trees that are kind of their end of the life. Like, I mean, they kind of exhaust themselves on another. There's a few that we love to say, but we can't. So, I understand what you're talking about. Would you want to kind of take us a little bit through timelines, maybe don't find for what you're looking at now for construction? What are we looking at?

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one of the next 12 months or 18 months to start it completed when it would be finished.

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The last day to play on Wacky World will be Sunday, December the 28th, next Sunday.

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So we're going to close it at 9 o'clock on Monday morning and start dismantling Wacky World.

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The construction fence will go up around August the 1st around the whole project.

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That means Wacky World, the stormwater, and the restrooms will all be construction now.

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with the anticipation completion date of this whole project somewhere around the first of May in 2026.

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So they're ready.

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I can as the company that is doing the work they are gearing up and making sure that they will be able to hit those deadline.

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So close down somewhere around the end of September and open May somewhere around the first of May in 2026.

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I think I got some of those dates mistaken.

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I think so.

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Did I?

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I heard December and that really is September and then the other date is October 1st.

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I heard August.

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So I did I kind of got I kind of got off because I was saying September and in October

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I might have thrown December in there because I was listening to Christmas Carol the day

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for some reason.

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But so I'll be clear is that September the 28th, everything's that's when the clock starts and they said they're going to be done by May 2026.

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Okay, I just wanted to make sure I was a little confused myself.

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Councilman Gerrida.

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Thank you, Mayor and Merry Christmas, Director Rodgers.

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Just a question, on the dates that you're outlined in the construction of here, what's going to happen?

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Is there a communication plan to the community as far as everything you're outlining tonight that we can put out there?

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Yes, we're aware.

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Yeah, we've been working close with Deanna in the communications division and we're going to put all that out and we're going to map it all out.

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Well, there's still a couple of, they're still trying to decide, make sure that they have all the materials before they start in that.

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But they're pretty confident in that schedule, and we're going to communicate that, and keep it updated, make sure that we keep the information updated as we go along.

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I just want to compliment you and your staff, and you see the design and what you've accomplished, and there's a lot of work that went into getting to this point, and I know that.

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So I just want to publicly acknowledge that and thank you and your staff for doing such a great job on behalf of the citizens of Alfredo.

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Thank you. Well, Alfredo has built a good team and that allows us to get to places like this because it's just not the recreation and parts department.

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We wouldn't be here without our friends over at public works because they have just done a lion's share of the work that I'm showing here.

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so it's been a great team and we're all excited about where this is going to take us.

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Councilman Hyves?

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Director Rodgers, a couple of things with respect to the trees being removed, such as the

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Crate Murdles.

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I'm going to venture a guess based off my Crate Murdles that 30 years ago, those weren't

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very big.

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They were not.

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So when those were planted one person could have taken probably grabbed the pot and took it and showed where it needed to be planted.

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So the original designed wacky world had trees planted that have since grown. We're going to plant trees that will later on grow if I understand correctly.

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Right. And one of the interesting features of this that I'm curious about is it looks

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like there's going to be additional shade added by these canopies. Now I'm looking at

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that photo there if you're able to put it up on the screen, people in the audience can

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see that, is that up? Or can you put that up? I can, I've got it. And if not, it's not

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a big deal. Oh no I've got it.

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So it looks like, and I'm thinking this is a great design

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by whoever the design team is that these canopies are going to provide some relief for our

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youngsters when they're out on the playground and in the heat of the days. That's not correct.

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That's correct. Now what do we know about the canopies or the coverings in terms of maintenance?

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It's just going to be a canvas material.

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It's just going to be something that's more plastic, or what do we have?

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It'll be heavy-duty canvas material, which is very similar to any of the shades that

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we have, particularly if you look at Waters Road Park, or Mid

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-Brogwell, thank you, Mid-Brogwell

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Park, where we put the shades up as heavy-duty canvas.

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It'll have to be replaced anywhere from 8 to 10 years, just kind of dependent on wear

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and tear.

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I think if we get 10 years, that'd be a good lifespan.

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Second thing I wanted to bring up during this work session

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are the extended parking pads.

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I pulled up Google Maps, which I don't suppose that we would have,

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but I see the parking pad between the swimming pool and the existing parking lot.

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I understand that's going to be one of the areas that's going to be expanded

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and turned into additional parking.

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The area that's going to be turned into additional parking is on Old Milton, it's the grass area on Old Milton.

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We're going to make that.

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So here's the pool and here's a grass area, absolutely.

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When you said pool, I was looking south instead of west, so you're right.

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And the other thing I noticed is as for the existing parking lot,

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there's a fairly deep grass area between the edge of the parking lot and Old

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Milton. Is there any plans to provide additional parking into that area? Are

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we going to keep that as just a really deep buffer? Just a deep buffer. They

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did look at the possibility of trying to push that out closer to the side wall, but

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you didn't really pick up. You can't get a whole another row because of the need

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for, you know, two cars being able to pass. So we looked at that but there was not enough

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significant parking to cover the cost, if you will, because if we're going to mobilize

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and have paving contractors, et cetera out there, if there was an opportunity to do more

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if parking was needed, I wanted to see if that had been looked at.

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We would have loved to squeeze it out another 20 or 25, but it just wouldn't, just wasn't possible.

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There's a lot of people in town excited about wacky world, so great job, look forward to it.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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Councilman Dredo?

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One more question, Director Rogers, could you explain about the bathroom facility and how the facility will close,

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I will have like monetization on the doors tech from technology

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Yeah, well will what our plans are right now is for for both of those to have the automated locks systems on us

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So they'll they'll lock out a particular time as far as I'm going in you can if you're ever you can't get locked in because you can

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Always get out, but we're also going to have on both of these restrooms is a small glass window up high made of that

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that real thick glass so that if you ride by late in the evening midnight and that lights

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on, that means something's moving in there because the lights will be, if nothing there's

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no movement, the lights will go off.

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So it'll alert, particularly our public safety folks that there's somebody in the restroom

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and can check that out.

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So yeah, that's our plan for the safety aspect.

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I think it's important. I just wanted to make sure you mention that.

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Thank you.

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Does anyone else on council have any feedback to give?

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Do you want to have any other questions?

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Director Rogers, do you have enough clarity?

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I'm sorry.

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Do you have enough clarity from the work session?

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I do.

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I do. We're going to move forward with the project as we have.

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And we're excited about it.

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I'm excited to eventually get this thing going.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Now there's a lot of people that have been waiting and it has been a very deliberate process

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to make sure we have good patrons of the tax dollars we've been spending on it.

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The other work session item is the Will's Park Equestrian Center update.

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So, director Rogers, if you don't mind updating us on that project.

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Yeah.

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I'm bad too.

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Thank you very much.

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The other major project in Will's Park is the renovation of the Equestrian Center to bring

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you have to speed, we have renovated two of the competition arenas already in Wills Park,

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but we call number one in number three, and the next phase will in large and renovate

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number arena number two, as well as school in arena number four, we're also going to add

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a new entrance off of Will's Road to the Barnes R, upgrade the RV hookups there as well.

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I also have, I can show you this,

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so this is what, if you're over at the Village Park

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and you were on one of their nice balconies looking over the street, this is the view you

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would have. This arena too, that's closest to us. Right now, that is a smaller arena, and

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it also has that building there that we call the show office is on that. So that's coming

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out. It's going to be enlarged to the same size as number one and number three. So we'll

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have three competition arenas. And then here is number four. It's the smaller arena between

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between number three and the cover arena that you see there.

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The other photo I have shows what that when you come in what that area is going to look

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like, there's going to be the welcome area, this is going to be, if you will, the front

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door of the equestrian center, what that's going to look like, and then

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same thing applies

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over at the question center, quite a few trees are going to come out. All of those trees are going to come out

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because we're going to have to have that whole area there for storm water. Two of our disc golf holes

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will have to move because we're going to have to drastically improve storm water over there.

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So those trees are coming out. This is looking back. That row of trees is also coming out.

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And that's on the, that would be the south side of the, of the park.

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And then one everybody, this is the one that I think is probably the most important is

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that this row of memorial trees will have to come out.

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But our plan is, we got, we got two, kind of a two phase plan.

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One of them we're going to try to see if we can, these trees are not that big, we're going

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to try to stay these trees and move them.

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If we don't, then we're going to plant back the same kind of tree that we take out.

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But we have to we need that space

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To make so that the arena can get enlarged and we can keep that trail

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Between the parking lot and the arena

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All of that all of those trees will be moved up to the

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far end

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of the of Will's park

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So the trees will be planted along

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the nor the highway north end if you will of that green area

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That's where the memorial trees have been moved

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That's, that's just an update on that because I didn't answer any questions.

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You may have about this project as well.

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Councilman Brady?

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Yeah, I guess the sensitive you really is the memorial tree.

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So I just kind of want to ask you, I know there's plaques out there for families of stuff like that.

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And they understand, kind of, yeah, but what's going to be your process of, like,

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notifying them or do we kind of, what do we do to help?

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Yeah, well, we're trying to find records for those memorials were, were installed.

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We haven't been able to find all that.

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And but the ones that we have we've reached out to and to make sure they know what we're doing

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Now let them know that we are going to attempt to like I said spade the tree and if we can't then we will plant that same tree in the

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Location so we understand that that's significant to those individuals and I think you can see there's probably about 10 along there

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Also just want to applaud you a little bit on your your use of impervious kind of the stones in this area in the question

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First of all, it goes with the question, it goes very well, but we don't have to pave

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everything.

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I think you can drop off areas and all that.

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I think it works really, really well with the stones and more you can encourage that

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around this area.

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I think aesthetically, it looks better, and it's also much better for our storm water impact

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in that area also.

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So thank you so much for your time.

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Thank you.

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Councilman Duret.

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Yeah, just, I just started to acknowledge that the current work that's been done over the

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question center is just absolutely top shelf and beautiful. It really has put

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Alfredo in the limelight as far as your question and competition and things

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which is really part of the history of Alfredo. I also want to recognize

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Shell Sims who's the president of the foundation board and the board and

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themselves for the partnership that they've created with the city and thank

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the voters for supporting the bonds that we're contributing here to make this happen this is going to be

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We are going to be an unbelievable, beautiful facility at completion and we are going to be pretty proud of this when this is all done. So thank you to you and your staff once again for all your hard work behind us.

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Councilman Hypes, is there anything you'd like to ask?

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There are four, Tim.

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So Morgan, I spent a lot of time over there.

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My kids were younger at the Equestrian Center with my daughter, actually.

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But the main question I have is trying to understand

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what these pictures are to what exists there now.

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Like this circle where you've got the drop-off.

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off. Um, uh, where is that? It's

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there now is this following the

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design. I meant yesterday back up,

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I can explain it better by looking

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at the picture. Um, so to, to, uh,

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so that's the that's the

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concession stand that is straight

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ahead. Okay. So round one or the

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metal one. What's this one is a

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concession stand that's there right

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now. The lock one. So it's going

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to be graded. Oh, yeah, it'll be graded. We're going to grade that down. And then the we're going to cut

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off we're going to cut off traffic going up there. So you're not going to be able right now you can

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drive straight up here and go there. So we're going to cut traffic off here. And with the new

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entrance, it's just going to be able to come around and go to the back. So the entrance is coming in

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down at that end of the parking. Yes. Between the between the community garden and where that

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That where that small Dirt Arena is, that's going to come in right there.

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So what will happen during a horse show is that this entrance, the new entrance will

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be the only way in and out as we're going to, when the competition's closed, we're going

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to close this off because this is where all the horses and the people are walking.

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Right.

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So it gives us that ability to keep the traffic, keep cars separated from horses and people.

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Because if there is an issue, if there is one big issue, it's that sometimes they're

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in competition with each other over at Will's Park.

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So this gives us that ability before for people to drop off, but then after it's going

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to be closed out, and this will treat this as a promenade area, if you will, and people

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will be able to walk freely.

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Thank you.

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It would be a huge, huge upgrade for the question, sir.

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Thank you for explaining that, because the TOPO is much different now.

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Yes, it is.

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That much.

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The fact that it was level threw me off because there's usually about a 12-foot drop from

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the concession stand.

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Yeah, it might not be part of that.

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That's why this level is a picture showing it, but it's going to be close.

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But there's a good bit of area between there and the concession stand, so I think one of

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the things that staff is most excited about is the new flow that the Equestrian Center

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is going to have is that we're not going to, we're not going to, certainly, need to compete

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with with cars and and the big horse trailers that are now you know 35 and 40 foot long so we're we've

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got a plan for them to go in the back and stay stay back there okay thank you that helped me get

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my bearings I just absolutely could not figure out where that was on the site there but the site

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doesn't look like that eventually okay thank you no one else has any feedback for questions

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Director Rogers, thank you very much.

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On your direction.

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Thank you.

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You and your team.

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That will wrap up the work session items for this evening.

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Move on to the consent agenda.

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The first item on the consent agenda is the city council meeting minutes from the meeting of September 8th, 2025.

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The ratification of a new national opioid settlement.

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The Financial Management Report for the month ending July 31, 2025, the Consent Order and Final Judgment for coming street, parcel 9, and the Public Accesses Management Agreement with Doug Wood Square.

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Is there anyone from council that would like to remove anything from the Consent Agenda?

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Mischiefior, do we have any public comment cards on this item?

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We do not, Mr. Mayor.

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However, any more in the light to come forward and speak on the consent agenda, now's your chance.

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I see no one coming forward, so we'll close public comment.

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Do I have a motion?

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So move.

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We have a motion by Mayor Pro. Tim Merkel, second by Councilman Brady.

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Any discussion?

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All those in favor of the motion to approve the consent agenda, please vote yes.

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And it does pass unanimously.

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Now, we'll move on to the public hearing portion of tonight's meeting.

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Is S1 before I begin, would you mind announcing the public hearing procedures?

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An individual requesting to be heard on a matter related to the purpose of the hearing

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must be recognized by the mayor before addressing the city council.

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Upon rising to speak, the speaker must identify himself or herself and furnish a home or business

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address before proceeding with any comments or remarks.

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The council will allow the proponents a total of 10 minutes to speak in support of an application.

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Opponents will be allowed 10 minutes to speak in opposition.

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Comments are accepted first from the applicant followed by person speaking in favor and then from those in opposition.

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Upon conclusion of any opposing comments or presentations, the mayor will allow the applicant to offer a buttole.

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If any time is remaining in the originally allotted 10 minutes.

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Thank you very much.

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So the first item on our public hearing agenda this evening is CU-25-14, image studios,

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windward master plan, pod 4.

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To write a cook, I believe you have this item.

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Good evening, Marin Council.

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The next item, the applicant, is requesting a conditional use to allow spa service business

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to operate in image studios, which will occupy 8,304 square-foot suite at the

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terraces at Winward Shopping Center. They lease suites there with just a

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variety of different beauty health and wellness personal service providers.

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The applicant requests the fall-outie contouring, lymphatic drainage,

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acupuncture, facials, hydrotherapy, school sculpting, and cellulite removal.

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Properties located at 30, 70, whenward plaza, suite T and U. At the property is zoned CUP.

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It's subject to the whenward master plan, pod 4, which is designated as commercial

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spa services was previously added to pod 4 with the approval of a master plan amendment

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conditionally used for a spa called Hanna Day Spa in 2013, and that business has closed.

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And I'll show you, within the one-word terraces,

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it's located within this building, in particular,

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in the middle of that building.

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So the previous spa services has closed,

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and the Comprehensive Land Use Plan

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Dexas Nation of the Property is Commercial,

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which supports the applicants request.

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And Image Studios leases suites to cosmetologists,

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hairstyles, estheticians, and other similar personal service providers.

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So they have 40 suites, so there will only be a limited area that will be used for spa services.

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Hours of operation for the business are Monday through Sunday, 8 to 9 p.m.

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And I'll show you where we have other spas that have been permitted conditional uses within

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the city.

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And you can see looking at this area here, it's actually when we're plaza here, so there's

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not a spa that's located, meets the distance requirements

427
00:38:22,510 --> 00:38:25,990
from the closest other approved spa.

428
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:29,730
So the blue and the orange are the spa services.

429
00:38:30,590 --> 00:38:33,090
And the area we're looking at this evening

430
00:38:33,090 --> 00:38:35,530
is here within the Windward Master Plan.

431
00:38:36,670 --> 00:38:38,130
We reviewed the applicant's proposal

432
00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:41,090
against the review criteria for our conditional use.

433
00:38:41,690 --> 00:38:43,290
And the proposed use to would complement

434
00:38:43,290 --> 00:38:46,310
the beauty service offered at the applicant's business.

435
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:51,470
If approved, we do have conditions that we're recommending that would regulate and limit

436
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:55,110
an expansion of services as well as signage.

437
00:38:56,130 --> 00:39:00,530
They also, of course, had to participate in the citizen participation plan.

438
00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:01,690
They did mail letters.

439
00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:05,270
The report states that no comments were received.

440
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:10,750
The applicant provided several letters of support from other tenants within the terraces

441
00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:12,070
at Winward Shopping Center.

442
00:39:12,070 --> 00:39:16,850
And this item was considered at the September 4th planning commission meeting.

443
00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:23,010
There were no public comments and after discussion, the commission did recommend approval unanimously

444
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:25,610
7-0 vote.

445
00:39:26,330 --> 00:39:29,830
And of course, we're recommending, the planning commission is recommending approval and

446
00:39:29,830 --> 00:39:32,870
there's five conditions that are recommended.

447
00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:36,270
And I'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

448
00:39:38,130 --> 00:39:40,370
Do we have any questions for Dr. Coat?

449
00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:45,290
Thank you, ma'am.

450
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:46,250
Would

451
00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:54,810
the applicant like to come forward at this time?

452
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,700
Put them in the mirror and council members.

453
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
My name is Oya Delay, all I did you.

454
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:20,580
Business address 3070, Windward Plaza, sweet T and U.

455
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,020
And I also reside in Alpharetta, 6-100,

456
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:24,960
Walla-Lily Drive.

457
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,960
I have resided in Alpharetta for about 17 or 18 years now.

458
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,620
You have 10 minutes.

459
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:33,220
I do.

460
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:36,100
Oh, I have to advocate for your project.

461
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:43,240
And really, I'm happy to take any questions, but this is an investment opportunity.

462
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:52,680
Image studio is a national brand, it's a franchise operation, offering salon suite, modern

463
00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:01,540
off-skill salon suite, providing space for entrepreneurs in the beauty, health and wellness spaces.

464
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,620
construction has been underway now for the better part of the last four months. I'm expecting

465
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:15,920
a certificate of occupancy by the end of the week, hopefully. And as I have the market

466
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:22,300
in these two prospects, there are a number of them that offer services that require the

467
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:29,860
spa conditional use, hence the application. And so I think it complements the range of

468
00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:36,880
services that we're looking to provide across beauty, health and wellness, and I am suddenly

469
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,280
craving your indulgence, your permission, and your approval of my request.

470
00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:44,300
I would take any questions.

471
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,180
Do we have any questions for the applicant?

472
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:50,290
Councilman Hypes.

473
00:41:53,090 --> 00:41:54,110
Mr. Aulataji.

474
00:41:54,110 --> 00:41:54,890
Yes.

475
00:41:57,330 --> 00:42:06,850
I was interested in your operation. What types of services do you provide other than

476
00:42:06,850 --> 00:42:13,090
the massage services? By far, a majority of the services, well, it varies from location to

477
00:42:13,090 --> 00:42:17,830
location. I happen to also have an existing location in John's Creek, the city of John's Creek,

478
00:42:18,070 --> 00:42:23,290
and another in the city of Roswell. And the service is very from location to location,

479
00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:30,950
but the biggest will be hairstylist is the population most represented, but he also have nail

480
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:39,210
tags which is, you know, pedicure, manicure, head spa, foot spa, eye covering services.

481
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:44,550
In one of my locations in Janskrik, actually, other dentists who also, you know, was read

482
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:53,190
in the space and doing teeth whitening and straightening in that location, I am not enough

483
00:42:55,050 --> 00:43:01,930
there's also tattooed copies, there's waxing, there's met smell,

484
00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:05,790
botox injections, there's a variety of services provided.

485
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:17,750
In the facility does it do hair salon and haircuts for guys and gals, but children and adults,

486
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:18,150
correct.

487
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,220
And if I understand that it wasn't part of your presentation about

488
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:32,820
reading about image, and I don't know if it was in the packet or not, this is your

489
00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:34,960
third franchise location? Yes, correct.

490
00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:41,020
Who does the on-site, who provides

491
00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:48,080
oversight that in each of your three locations? When you say oversight, they do not

492
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,220
necessarily require a permanent person on-site because I have managed access

493
00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:56,360
that is provided to all of the professionals.

494
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,540
They work independently.

495
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,200
They are not my employees.

496
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:00,620
They rent space for me.

497
00:44:01,340 --> 00:44:03,340
And so through the card access that they have,

498
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,620
they enter the space and they conduct business.

499
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,400
I am in those premises multiple times a week

500
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:13,500
just to make sure things are running well,

501
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,240
take care of any needs or requests that they may have,

502
00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:20,280
and certainly observe and make sure

503
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,280
again everything is going well.

504
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:31,240
I also have security cameras, primarily for just deterrence or any kind of, you know,

505
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:36,320
just providing the level of safety, right, because by far the majority of the population

506
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,380
that rent from me and that also comforts services is heavily female, right,

507
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,120
so I want to make sure I'm providing a really secure environment for that.

508
00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:49,240
So, do you yourself hold a massage therapy license?

509
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:50,680
No, I do not.

510
00:45:00,050 --> 00:45:30,030
The people that will be working at this location, they're going to be tenants of yours. Is that correct? Yes, they will be and they are required to have not only an operator business license, but also the appropriate licenses from the state of Georgia, whether it's Cosmetology or Massage or whatever the appropriate licenses are. I require that before they can execute the leads. So looking at the packet here, I see that the overall premises is 8,344.

511
00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:37,810
square feet. And in there, in that amount, you can have up to 4,000 square feet of rented

512
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:42,310
stalls, booths, whatever the case may be, to massage therapists.

513
00:45:46,330 --> 00:45:47,790
How many different

514
00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:51,230
independent contractors do you think you will be employing?

515
00:45:51,410 --> 00:46:01,170
There are 40 suites. I mean, it is not inconceivable that some take more than one suite. The maximum

516
00:46:01,170 --> 00:46:08,150
one would be 40. So there could be 40 independent operators that are massage therapists.

517
00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:16,630
It could be 40 independent operators under no circumstances. Would I promote or even

518
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:23,070
allow that all of them will be massage therapies because it is completely contradictory to my

519
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:29,610
selling point, which is a collective of beauty, health and wellness professionals. The blend

520
00:46:29,610 --> 00:46:36,270
of services I think it's a key appeal and selling point for the growth so if it's just massage I

521
00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:43,790
think it's completely the purpose of what I'm trying to do. Thank you. Do we have any other

522
00:46:43,790 --> 00:46:45,030
questions for the applicant?

523
00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:52,690
Thank you very much. Thank you. Mishapiro do we have any public comment

524
00:46:52,690 --> 00:46:59,630
cards on this item? We have none in favor or in opposition of this item. However if there is anyone

525
00:46:59,630 --> 00:47:03,510
one that is in opposition as your opportunity to come forward.

526
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:09,850
I do not see anyone coming forward, so we'll close public comment for the opposition.

527
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:13,130
Is there anyone who would like to come forward and speak in favor of this item?

528
00:47:15,110 --> 00:47:18,310
I also see no one coming forward, so we'll close public comment.

529
00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:19,910
Do I have a motion from council?

530
00:47:20,890 --> 00:47:27,550
Yes, Mr. Mayor, it offers a motion this evening to approve CU-25-14 image studios.

531
00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:30,590
those Windward MP pod floor as presented to us this evening.

532
00:47:30,990 --> 00:47:31,310
Second.

533
00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:35,730
We have the motion to approve by Mayor Pro Tem Markle,

534
00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:37,490
second by Councilman Dorida.

535
00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:38,970
Any discussion?

536
00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:41,230
Councilman Hypes.

537
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:48,320
Yeah, I'm always appreciate folks who want to bring

538
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,780
their business to Alphoretta.

539
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,920
I'm troubled by this particular application

540
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:11,060
with the condition number two that this use is limited to image studios because it's a limited use to a landlord whereas the tenants are providing the thing that we're actually providing the use for.

541
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:17,280
I mean, this is going to be an environment with kids and adults.

542
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,400
it's going to be an environment with a lot of different folks who are tenants and independent

543
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:29,580
contractors providing the massage therapy and it's going to be an environment where the

544
00:48:29,580 --> 00:48:37,700
landlord owner of the business does not have a massage therapist's license and so when

545
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:44,920
things are going appropriately or inappropriately as the case may be, I would have preferred that

546
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:51,800
somebody have an understanding of what's required of a massage therapist and what isn't per

547
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:58,440
license and so I'm going to be voting according to I'm going to be voting according to how

548
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,380
treble I am by the application so I just want you to know.

549
00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:04,980
Any other discussion?

550
00:49:07,390 --> 00:49:13,750
Well I'll just note for the record that I certainly understand your concerns however I know my

551
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:21,290
My wife uses a facility similar to that here in Alphoretta, and if I recall, we actually

552
00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:28,750
had to allow that facility to provide massage over the last couple of years.

553
00:49:28,930 --> 00:49:33,590
I think we had that decision that they were having, bringing in one of the vendors that

554
00:49:33,590 --> 00:49:34,150
would do that.

555
00:49:34,370 --> 00:49:34,450
So,

556
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:42,270
I trust our code enforcement to make things, make sure things are done well in our public

557
00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:43,210
safety department.

558
00:49:43,210 --> 00:49:50,130
And I have a tremendous amount of confidence that a business that's been successful in John's

559
00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:54,590
Creek is it seems to have been or continue to be successful now for rather.

560
00:49:55,870 --> 00:50:02,050
Now being said, all of those in favor of approving the motion, please vote yes, otherwise

561
00:50:02,050 --> 00:50:02,830
but accordingly,

562
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,320
and the motion does pass for one.

563
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,560
Congratulations, sir.

564
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,480
So

565
00:50:17,890 --> 00:50:25,550
the next item up is PH-25-14, Spirit of God Church, Change of Condition.

566
00:50:26,130 --> 00:50:28,410
Director Cook, once again you have the floor.

567
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,980
We are in council. The next item is shown to you hatched on the screen.

568
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:55,640
And the applicant is requesting changes to conditions of zoning related to a conditional use approved to allow a church.

569
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:03,240
For Spirit of God, Christian Church on 2.92 acres, the applicant requests changes to conditions

570
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:08,220
related to the site layout, building design, retaining walls, and tree removal.

571
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,940
Property is located at 1200 Upper Embry Road at the northeast corner of Upper Embry Road

572
00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:16,180
and Harris Road.

573
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:23,480
The property is owned, oh and I, to the north, is R10, to the west, is R15.

574
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,800
I think this was just a couple of years ago, this was split into three different lots.

575
00:51:28,540 --> 00:51:37,700
To the south was the old farm harries market, which was rezoned from PSC to the R8AD, and

576
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:39,840
then to the East as OP.

577
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,920
The applicant is requesting changes to conditions of zoning, which was related to their previous

578
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,240
approval for a conditional use that was approved in 2020.

579
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:55,440
20. Back in 2020, and I'll show you the site plan in just a minute, but they were approved

580
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,480
for as a conditional use for the church, but they had a site plan that didn't fit all

581
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,640
of the parking on their property. So what they're coming forward with is to change the conditions

582
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:14,280
which tied it to a site plan that didn't meet all of the parking. So it was the council had approved

583
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:20,040
it but said they would be required to meet all the parking on-site. So they're

584
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,980
looking to change a couple of conditions in order to meet that approval.

585
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:30,580
Previous condition 2, which was property shall be developed substantially

586
00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:35,960
similar to plans and they're just changing the date, updating it to the new

587
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,060
site plan, which meets the parking.

588
00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:46,420
Building shall be primarily brick or stone on

589
00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:50,100
three sides with a gable roof and compatible with the residential

590
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:55,220
character of the area as approved by DRB. So staff had recommended that there

591
00:52:55,220 --> 00:53:03,360
be a gable roof for the new architecture because right now it's this is what

592
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,480
it looks like. So it's still residential house they haven't made the

593
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,740
improvement since 2020. And so we had a condition that said new construction

594
00:53:12,740 --> 00:53:17,540
should be residential and nature, have a gable roof, they are requesting that condition

595
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:23,520
to change in order to approve this elevation, which should be within your packet and

596
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,960
I'll show you the side of that also.

597
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:35,510
So it's brick and stone, but it has the flat roof, which we consider a contemporary architecture.

598
00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:40,970
They're also looking to change condition 10, which said retaining walls visible from the

599
00:53:40,970 --> 00:53:47,190
Street shall be decorative as approved by DRB and then the part they're looking to

600
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:53,390
change is the last retaining walls visible from off site shall not exceed 11 feet in height.

601
00:53:54,110 --> 00:54:00,350
So I'll go over the site plan and you'll see where they're showing the retaining walls.

602
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:08,510
So this is Harris Road, this is Upper Embry, the new building, less than the allowed square

603
00:54:08,510 --> 00:54:13,230
footage that they're requesting a little over 14,000 square feet in the middle.

604
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:19,450
And then they still have the required 50 foot undisturbed buffer, the undisturbed buffer

605
00:54:19,450 --> 00:54:25,030
of course is required here adjacent to the existing residential property.

606
00:54:25,790 --> 00:54:30,470
They do meet the parking requirement, in fact they exceed the parking requirement.

607
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:38,430
For the size of the church and 170 personers that they plan, they would be required to

608
00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:46,110
have 85 parking spaces. They actually have 16 extra 101 parking spaces on site. So they

609
00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:53,530
do they meet and exceed the required parking. They do have tree save along Harris Road which

610
00:54:53,530 --> 00:55:00,590
was an important to staff as well as the surrounding residents when we were went through the

611
00:55:00,590 --> 00:55:05,950
conditional use in 2020. Because when you're going into Harris Road of course you're entering

612
00:55:05,950 --> 00:55:11,670
into the residential street, so they have the tree save here as well as the 50-foot buffer.

613
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:19,110
They did have a previous condition of zoning that requested that they attempt to tie in

614
00:55:19,110 --> 00:55:25,950
the stormwater runoff into the residential area that's located to the north.

615
00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:35,930
If the residents accepted and wanted that tie in, they did go and talk to-

616
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:43,130
a few of the neighbors who were not interested because if you extend that stormwater pipe it's just

617
00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:48,630
going to remove too many trees through that 50 foot undisturbed buffer and I'll show you also I

618
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:57,810
think it helps to look at the old plan from 2020 so here's the old plan from 2020 they did not meet

619
00:55:57,810 --> 00:56:04,470
the required parking on site they had requested a variance in order to be able to share parking

620
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:10,850
with the property owners to the east, and so they had trees that were saved, more trees

621
00:56:10,850 --> 00:56:15,470
on the east side, but in order to meet the required parking,

622
00:56:18,490 --> 00:56:21,210
that tree-saveria is removed.

623
00:56:21,770 --> 00:56:26,270
So they keep the tree-saveria along Harris as well as the 50-foot buffer.

624
00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:32,410
So that's the reason for the other condition that they're looking to change, which is 15.

625
00:56:32,410 --> 00:56:35,590
It's because they need to meet the required parking.

626
00:56:37,970 --> 00:56:43,770
They do meet the required landscape strips and staff reviewed the applicant's proposal

627
00:56:43,770 --> 00:56:46,650
for the changes in order to meet the parking.

628
00:56:47,710 --> 00:56:51,070
The changes are necessary to provide the parking on site.

629
00:56:51,870 --> 00:56:52,870
So they're supported.

630
00:56:53,130 --> 00:56:58,310
However, we do not support the request to change condition number five regarding the more

631
00:56:58,310 --> 00:56:59,590
contemporary architecture.

632
00:57:00,190 --> 00:57:06,430
and development along Upper Henry Road in the past has required buildings that are residential

633
00:57:06,430 --> 00:57:11,130
and character. And I did get a picture of the building beside of it. This is of course

634
00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:16,170
to the east. It's hard to see, but I think you can see it has the gabled roofs. Of course,

635
00:57:16,330 --> 00:57:22,350
this has been built many years ago with the parking along the front.

636
00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:26,710
The applicant did

637
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:30,050
notifies surrounding property owners within 500 feet.

638
00:57:30,790 --> 00:57:35,190
The report states that a public comment was received regarding the size of the church

639
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:41,210
being larger than originally intended, and we did receive an email regarding the traffic

640
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:44,310
as well as the current maintenance of the property.

641
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:50,890
Some of the surrounding residents were upset about that it wasn't currently being maintained,

642
00:57:50,890 --> 00:58:00,350
And then we also again have the statement about the original request in 2020 was for a smaller church.

643
00:58:00,830 --> 00:58:08,410
We went back through those notes, went back through the minutes, and that original application was for a request for 250 attendees.

644
00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:15,290
So this is actually with the recommended conditions we have, we're recommending that they're capped at 170.

645
00:58:15,290 --> 00:58:20,630
70, so this would actually be a reduction from the original request.

646
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:29,090
We're recommending approval of pH 25-14, Spirit of God Church, change of condition, subject

647
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:35,630
to several conditions, and if you look in the staff report, the conditions that were changed,

648
00:58:35,630 --> 00:58:45,170
they're shown to you in red, and just looking at that number one, we added a cap of

649
00:58:45,170 --> 00:58:47,390
no more than 170 seats.

650
00:58:49,690 --> 00:58:53,770
Number two, we just changed it to meet their current site plan.

651
00:58:56,460 --> 00:59:01,660
And then 10, regarding the retaining walls,

652
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,180
if they're visible, they have to be decorative, approved by DRB

653
00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:09,860
and maximum height.

654
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,240
And then 15, tree-save areas shall be as depicted on the plan

655
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,720
and prepared that my foresight group revised 81325,

656
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,040
which is what is shown here

657
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,460
and that's in order to meet the parking.

658
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,020
But if you have any questions, I'll be glad.

659
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,300
Try to answer those.

660
00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:30,850
Do we have any questions?

661
00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:31,770
Councilman Brady?

662
00:59:35,570 --> 00:59:37,170
I think there's not a first time.

663
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:39,850
I think we've seen a situation like this in Alfredo

664
00:59:39,850 --> 00:59:43,250
and I'll be sensitive because I know there's a faith base

665
00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:44,750
and there's a congregation behind this,

666
00:59:44,830 --> 00:59:46,090
but this is more of a land,

667
00:59:46,090 --> 00:59:47,850
kind of use the discussion.

668
00:59:49,530 --> 00:59:59,530
We have an entry of an application that always comes in and says we're living to a certain size, we're going to limit to a certain scope, a certain amount of time goes by and it's like well, no, we're going to build something significant.

669
01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:29,980
So, what's the height of that? Is there height max to go up to level 4 level? No, it's 40 foot. It's a 40 foot max. And the elevation, if you look, they go up.

670
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:33,600
We do have a height shown, which is 42 feet.

671
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:37,360
So if you approve this elevation, they would have to meet the 40.

672
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,920
So it's shown 42, but the maximum height in ONI is 40 feet.

673
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,660
And with staff government, that design and that design aesthetics and quality.

674
01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:52,740
The design will go to DRB.

675
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,380
It is under DRB.

676
01:00:55,820 --> 01:00:55,940
Yes.

677
01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:56,360
Okay.

678
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:57,760
All right.

679
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:58,120
Thank you.

680
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,280
I'm just cautioned about, it just keeps coming back, keeps getting bigger and bigger and

681
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,400
then we have this conversation and we can't live in size, we can't do this, this won't

682
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:11,640
be really sensitive and more aggressive or make sure agreements were made upon the initial

683
01:01:12,310 --> 01:01:17,000
purchase of the land and the purchase kind of piece will make sure we maintain the agreements

684
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,040
that we had to begin with.

685
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,480
And the difference is when you measure height, when it's a modern flat roof, you can go 40 feet

686
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,240
to the top.

687
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:34,580
If you have a gable roof it would be a little taller because you measure from the the middle basically of that gable so

688
01:01:35,740 --> 01:01:40,120
Our recommendation though to begin with was more of a residential and character

689
01:01:42,260 --> 01:01:45,780
Church but the request is for the flat roof on

690
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,900
They just and just just questions out of curiosity inside as their commercial kitchens or anything like that

691
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:55,260
as you're just mostly natural congregation with offices or with the use inside the building.

692
01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:59,040
Would that just be a congregation that was going to be school activities or extra kind

693
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,180
of after school, all those expansion of services?

694
01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:05,120
So they're not approved for a school.

695
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:11,680
It's limited to Sunday worship service, weekday Bible study, administrative office,

696
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:16,680
and occasional church-related services such as wedding, baptisms, funerals, or similar.

697
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:23,440
I and then residential use is prohibited so to have it to have an actual school

698
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:30,400
You would they would have to have additional approvals. They probably will have a small kitchen as part of

699
01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:33,680
The plan okay great. Thank you so much

700
01:02:37,010 --> 01:02:38,510
Any other questions for Dr.

701
01:02:39,650 --> 01:02:40,530
Pro Temp

702
01:02:40,530 --> 01:02:45,890
All right, well, you got this picture up here. Just so we're all on the same page. This is not going to be built this way

703
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:54,870
This is what they're requesting to build this architecture based on the conditions and your recommendations in those conditions say this does not fit.

704
01:02:55,330 --> 01:02:57,910
Correct. Just want to know that right.

705
01:02:58,730 --> 01:03:02,370
We were in agreement with the other requests except for the architecture.

706
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:06,800
Councilman Dorita.

707
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,740
Yes. I was going to ask the same question.

708
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:09,860
So who's asked already.

709
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,760
Thank you.

710
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:14,790
Any other questions.

711
01:03:16,580 --> 01:03:25,980
I do recall this zoning, and I remember that there was a lot of discussion about this

712
01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:32,800
project because even then it was surrounded by a lot of residents that were not happy

713
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,140
about making that a commercial.

714
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:41,620
So it was originally a residential when they came for the first zoning, correct?

715
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:48,180
No, it was a conditional use. It was already zoned, oh and I, so it was just

716
01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:53,680
it was it actively a business? No, so it was it was zoned, oh and I but it was

717
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,360
still just a being used residential, it was a previous and then go back

718
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,980
before the 2020, but I do have that file. I can see how it was zoned, oh and I

719
01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:10,100
previously, but in 2020 it was just the request for the conditional use. So at some

720
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:14,620
At some point it was a residence, it was still being lived in, and somebody re-zoned it

721
01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:18,280
to Owen I because I wanted to do a commercial project there.

722
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:25,100
Yeah, and a lot of these areas were annexed, and so they were annexed, different pocket areas,

723
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,420
and we had to accept the zoning that was placed on it by Fulton County, but I'd have to do

724
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:33,940
a little more research to see when it became Owen I.

725
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:38,880
I was just trying to sort through it, it's been several years.

726
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:45,860
I just remember that we struggled with it because it was so out of tune with the residential

727
01:04:45,860 --> 01:04:46,580
around it.

728
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:50,440
I know we've added a great deal of a residential across the street.

729
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,540
It used to be as the harries, and now we've got a subdivision going in across the street

730
01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:56,040
as well.

731
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:57,720
Okay.

732
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,500
Thank you.

733
01:04:59,720 --> 01:04:59,940
Yes.

734
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:07,160
If there are no other questions, thank you very much, Director Cook, with the app you might

735
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:07,800
come forward.

736
01:05:36,580 --> 01:05:41,580
Okay, there we go. All right. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. My name is

737
01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:48,300
Pastor Randall Knighton. My address is 71-97 Bill Chris Drive. John Screet, Georgia 300-097.

738
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,680
I'm the pastor of Spirit of God, Christian Church. Also with me is Jack Johnson, who is with

739
01:05:53,680 --> 01:06:00,840
four-site crews who designed the site plan that was shown as well, and then the architects

740
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:07,220
for the modern architecture, William Murphy, and he's going to kill me.

741
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,140
Jim is here tonight, as well.

742
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:16,340
I do want to present, in regards to that, I think the staff, I first do want to thank the

743
01:06:16,340 --> 01:06:20,040
staff for working with us from our last appearance in 2020.

744
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:26,580
We are a church. We've been in Alfa Reda for 21, going on 22 years in February. We've

745
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:31,480
been a good neighbor. We've been a great civil organization, I believe. On this property,

746
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:37,380
we were, zone, it was conditionally used permit to put a church there. We had a larger

747
01:06:37,380 --> 01:06:42,520
design when we came in 2020. But things have changed, and so our design has been reduced,

748
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:50,120
which also allowed us to meet the conditions for onsite parking in regards to the modern

749
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:56,460
architecture which I think is the only thing that the staff has issued with or it's not

750
01:06:56,460 --> 01:07:04,400
because it gave a roof and more residential is just just just fits who we are. I know Tesla's

751
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:11,360
down the street from us and I know we're surrounded by houses but it's more of if I may say I went to

752
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:17,880
prom in 1983. I wore a big tuxedo, you know, with the big ties and a big fluffy ruffles.

753
01:07:18,220 --> 01:07:23,860
Some of the guys wore powder blue, but that was 1983. When I looked at my nephews, Milton

754
01:07:23,860 --> 01:07:29,320
High School, they go to prom now, sleek suits, very modern. They look very good because it's

755
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:36,780
2025. Our simple request on this is that the design that we're requesting fits who we are

756
01:07:36,780 --> 01:07:44,000
as a church in 2025 and it is a building that still is not horrible or anything like that

757
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,480
and I don't think it's an eye sore any way you shape or form but it will still be functional

758
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,080
for us.

759
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,640
Are there any other questions or?

760
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,240
We have any questions for the applicant, Councilman Drurydo.

761
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,640
Welcome, Pastor.

762
01:07:59,980 --> 01:08:00,100
Yes.

763
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,420
Appreciate what you do in the faith community.

764
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:03,760
It's very important.

765
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:11,300
And do you have a picture of the rendering because the only picture I have in my packet

766
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:14,400
is the flat roof deals.

767
01:08:15,380 --> 01:08:21,880
And I know there's references to two revised plans and four-side group, one from August

768
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,860
1325 and I guess,

769
01:08:27,090 --> 01:08:31,330
two and 20 of the 25, unless it's the same rendering to stop data.

770
01:08:32,170 --> 01:08:38,510
with the original approval. Do you have a rendition of what I do believe yeah

771
01:08:38,510 --> 01:08:41,470
church was going to I don't know if you have I have one on my

772
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:47,920
just yeah just one

773
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:57,420
that was approved back in 2020 we didn't approve one back in 2020 they they

774
01:08:57,420 --> 01:09:03,280
actually submitted something similar sorry back in 2022 that was contemporary

775
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,060
and that's why we put the condition.

776
01:09:05,780 --> 01:09:09,780
So we haven't seen one that's more residential

777
01:09:09,780 --> 01:09:13,080
and nature that we're requesting.

778
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,840
Okay, and Pastor, could you confirm

779
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:22,460
that the 170 is what you are actually looking for

780
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,420
in the next of 170 or?

781
01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:28,200
Yeah, well, why go from 220 to 170 I guess is my question?

782
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,400
Well, we've changed, we reduced the size of the building.

783
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:37,740
So the building was much larger, and so it had the 220 or whatever that original number was.

784
01:09:38,180 --> 01:09:42,960
One of the things we wanted to make sure we did was to meet the parking to seat requirements.

785
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:48,320
So that's one of the reasons why we even wanted to exceed because in the event that there was growth

786
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,420
that even if we went to 200, we would still meet within that.

787
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:57,580
So the 170 is what is comfortable and what settles for us at this point.

788
01:09:57,580 --> 01:10:00,720
and we made sure that we did exceed the parking ratios.

789
01:10:01,540 --> 01:10:06,340
What's your number of kind of congregants now at the church?

790
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,300
Probably on Sundays when we meet,

791
01:10:08,420 --> 01:10:11,740
it's probably about 125 people, maybe.

792
01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:13,520
Thank you, Pastor.

793
01:10:16,060 --> 01:10:17,840
Any other questions for the applicant?

794
01:10:21,610 --> 01:10:24,050
So, if you could refresh my memory,

795
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,580
where is your current location?

796
01:10:27,580 --> 01:10:32,420
The current location is we are meeting at the double tree hotel in Roswell.

797
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:45,480
So and I'm just asking, I think several of us have concerns about the design without

798
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,560
knowing what that design looks like.

799
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:53,700
It's going to make it a challenge, I think, for me personally, I'm curious would you be willing

800
01:10:53,700 --> 01:11:02,760
to accept some kind of condition that it had to be approved other than the

801
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:10,780
DRB? Oh yeah, sure, and that would now would that condition be that we had to

802
01:11:10,780 --> 01:11:14,640
have the gay will roof or that whatever we presented had to be approved by

803
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:21,040
let's say to council and DRB. I'm just speaking on behalf of me because I so I can't

804
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:29,020
really answer that for you? I just know that what we're looking at right now doesn't

805
01:11:29,020 --> 01:11:35,160
really look attractive. Even as far as the roof is concerned, because I think that's

806
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:41,840
more kind of from the heart of the architecture period. Right, okay. As in, I'm not trying

807
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:48,840
to make a decision on what your building should look like. I just know that with the concerns

808
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:55,360
we have, and we struggled over the original zoning to begin with, that if we felt comfortable

809
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:01,000
with what it's going to look like, okay, gable or not, but I think most of us would like

810
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:07,140
to have something a little more traditional for that area that doesn't stick out like a

811
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:07,720
sore thumb.

812
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:08,500
All right.

813
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:15,500
And I think what might be appearing is the color from the printer versus the just the

814
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:22,520
earth tones that look like the structure there, is it just a roof and just the fact that

815
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:23,320
it's a modern building?

816
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:27,900
I just don't think it's very consistent with what's around it.

817
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:28,180
Okay.

818
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:31,780
What is currently there?

819
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,360
I was just asking.

820
01:12:34,060 --> 01:12:34,420
Yes.

821
01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:42,380
I mean, obviously, we would adhere to whatever conditions and approval that would be required

822
01:12:42,380 --> 01:12:47,220
in regards to that. Again, you know, if we're going to come back to the council, I was always told

823
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:54,000
just ask for what you want, right? Oh, I know. I appreciate you coming forward with what you're

824
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:59,520
looking for. Right. No problem with that. I just like I said, I always try to find some way that

825
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,440
it's a win-win. Yes. And I was just curious about that particular item. Yeah, yeah. So my answer

826
01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:09,980
today is yes. Yes, we would certainly be okay with conditions put up on it on approval.

827
01:13:15,660 --> 01:13:19,280
I do not have any in favor at this time.

828
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,980
However, if there's anyone that would like to come and speak in favor of the item and has your chance to do so.

829
01:13:27,970 --> 01:13:30,010
I see no one so we'll close public comment.

830
01:13:30,490 --> 01:13:31,690
We do have someone.

831
01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:40,390
So if you don't mind just please state.

832
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:43,950
Please state your name and address for the record.

833
01:13:45,050 --> 01:13:47,050
My name is Jim Mock.

834
01:13:47,670 --> 01:13:54,630
I live at 215 West Cherokee Road in Carter'sville, Georgia.

835
01:13:55,190 --> 01:13:58,790
I'm the architect that did that flat roof.

836
01:14:00,070 --> 01:14:06,870
And my question is, I think the program, I mean, the building because of the materials

837
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:17,370
lands itself to residential, their soft bricks, it's it's earthy. My question would be,

838
01:14:18,090 --> 01:14:30,170
can we mix a gable in the center and have a flat with a decorative freeze on the sides?

839
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:38,090
Would that be something that is, would fit in in your opinion?

840
01:14:39,690 --> 01:14:46,590
In my opinion, I'm not going to sit here and try to design the building that I'm not

841
01:14:46,590 --> 01:14:46,810
going to do.

842
01:14:46,810 --> 01:14:53,330
So I'm trying to find out where our boundaries are, is it a total?

843
01:14:53,690 --> 01:14:54,430
There are boundaries at this point.

844
01:14:55,130 --> 01:14:55,470
Okay.

845
01:14:56,930 --> 01:14:59,450
Like I said, you're just asking for something.

846
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,980
That is an automatically legal, so we have to be thoughtful about what we're doing in the

847
01:15:06,980 --> 01:15:11,340
right. It's going to have to the property values and the neighborhoods around there as well.

848
01:15:12,540 --> 01:15:25,160
And you said the word traditional design as opposed to something more contemporary. That's my understanding. I just want to make sure I understand right.

849
01:15:26,660 --> 01:15:32,600
I'm not here to tell you how to design your building, I'm not comfortable with what

850
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,280
I'm seeing.

851
01:15:33,660 --> 01:15:37,120
I don't feel like I know what's going to end up being there.

852
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,000
I see.

853
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:39,800
I see.

854
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:47,120
And I'm saying, yes, basically the condition says it will be decided by our design and review

855
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:47,520
board.

856
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:52,440
And I'm not always comfortable with the outcome of the design and review board.

857
01:15:52,540 --> 01:15:52,900
Okay.

858
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:53,260
I expect.

859
01:15:53,260 --> 01:16:04,220
Thank you. I understand. Great. Well, I think it will be an asset to the neighborhood.

860
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:11,580
It's mixed. It's not all residential and that's all I have to say.

861
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,200
Thank you for speaking up. Is there anyone else that would like to come forward?

862
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:18,880
The

863
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:33,710
lights are on? Yes.

864
01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:36,930
I'm being mayor and council members.

865
01:16:37,850 --> 01:16:42,530
First I'd like to thank the pastor for reaching out to the adjacent properties and neighbors.

866
01:16:43,710 --> 01:16:46,610
I live in 40. My name is Dennis Wrights. I'm sorry, excuse me. Thank you.

867
01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:52,450
Dennis Wrights, RIC, I live in 40204 Harris Ridge Court, which is an adjacent property.

868
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:59,890
The original design called for a 20-foot retaining wall behind my property and theirs,

869
01:16:59,890 --> 01:17:06,730
which I am to understand I'm asking this just for clarity now that they're reducing that down to 11 feet. Is that correct?

870
01:17:08,350 --> 01:17:19,830
Okay, 11 feet. And also there was a drainage issue with respect to the property that they were going to or they had proposed to take through some of the neighborhood properties mine specifically.

871
01:17:20,210 --> 01:17:28,090
And I'm wondering if that had changed. I'm just asking this for clarity. There's no longer going to be a drainage issue going through any of the properties.

872
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:35,050
I'm in my subdivision, I wear a creek side in Henry, which is the back adjacent property

873
01:17:35,050 --> 01:17:35,550
to that.

874
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:39,910
I just wanted to find out for clarity because it wasn't really addressed in terms of how

875
01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:44,330
they changed your drainage, which was originally going to go through my property, and also the

876
01:17:44,330 --> 01:17:46,730
number of trees that were going to be removed.

877
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:51,010
So I guess that's the less trees, and that buffer is going to still be right here.

878
01:17:51,010 --> 01:17:54,010
So, sir, if you can direct your comments to the City Council, and-

879
01:17:54,010 --> 01:17:54,470
Excuse me, sir.

880
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:55,210
Yeah.

881
01:17:55,650 --> 01:18:00,230
So, this was a comment in favor of the project.

882
01:18:00,410 --> 01:18:01,650
This wasn't a discovery.

883
01:18:02,250 --> 01:18:03,750
This, I understand.

884
01:18:04,130 --> 01:18:05,150
It was clarification.

885
01:18:05,970 --> 01:18:07,390
I am in favor of the project.

886
01:18:08,150 --> 01:18:09,070
If you-

887
01:18:09,070 --> 01:18:10,250
Well, I'm sorry.

888
01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:16,290
If you just want to continue with your comments in favor, now is the time for providing comments.

889
01:18:16,510 --> 01:18:18,370
It's not a time for I love or disliked.

890
01:18:18,370 --> 01:18:20,550
All right, most of that was just for clarification.

891
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:21,570
Thank you very much.

892
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:22,830
Thank you, sir.

893
01:18:24,250 --> 01:18:26,390
Is there anyone else that would like to come forward?

894
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:32,170
Seeing none, do you have anyone

895
01:18:32,170 --> 01:18:33,590
that wants to speak in opposition?

896
01:18:36,890 --> 01:18:38,310
I see no one else come forward,

897
01:18:38,450 --> 01:18:39,790
so we'll close public comment.

898
01:18:41,530 --> 01:18:43,010
Do I have a motion from council?

899
01:18:43,850 --> 01:18:46,370
Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor, I'd offer a motion this evening

900
01:18:46,370 --> 01:18:50,750
to approve PH-25-14,

901
01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:53,590
for Spirit of God Church, that's change of condition.

902
01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:57,470
And I would add on number five,

903
01:18:58,150 --> 01:19:01,490
the verbiage with final approval by City Council

904
01:19:02,290 --> 01:19:03,410
for architecture.

905
01:19:04,590 --> 01:19:06,470
Then it can come back after DRB.

906
01:19:07,330 --> 01:19:07,510
Second.

907
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:11,560
On my mic.

908
01:19:12,540 --> 01:19:13,980
Have a motion by Mayor Pro Tem,

909
01:19:14,060 --> 01:19:15,980
second by Councilman Dorito, I believe.

910
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:19,490
Any discussion?

911
01:19:22,820 --> 01:19:23,400
Councilman Brady.

912
01:19:23,980 --> 01:19:26,400
Yeah, I just want to make a couple comments here,

913
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:31,380
just because have a lot of history, you know, lived in this area for 20 years right here.

914
01:19:31,660 --> 01:19:36,440
Know this neighborhood very well as residents. There was a situation kind of before.

915
01:19:36,620 --> 01:19:39,380
I was kind of wanted to kind of say the why the sensitivities there.

916
01:19:39,620 --> 01:19:44,160
And we had, right, it's a residential kind of house, kind of had an overlay into O and I because

917
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,000
that was kind of a, you know, with the hospital there, there was a lot of health and kind of growing

918
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:53,640
into that. It was kind of be a corridor that would be used for a soft residential balance and impact

919
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,260
right there. And we've seen it before where some of these homes were purchased and then kind of

920
01:19:58,260 --> 01:20:03,520
converted into the faith-based or a small kind of congregation. And then the congregation grows and

921
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:08,040
grows and grows. And in addition when they bought it it was well we'll keep it small, promised all

922
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:12,180
the neighbors that we wanted to keep that residential aesthetic impact because that's really what the

923
01:20:12,180 --> 01:20:16,520
core is aesthetically. They wanted to still feel like a neighborhood. They didn't want to have all the

924
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:21,140
impacts of traffic going in and out, big lighting, you know, parking lots and things like that.

925
01:20:21,140 --> 01:20:25,800
And nothing to do with the use of it was it was just the aesthetic kind of impact to the neighborhood

926
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,480
I'd rather have it more of a softer

927
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,940
residential field right up against their

928
01:20:29,940 --> 01:20:37,900
Their current homes and things like that the choice of the person behind that property is they could go down the street

929
01:20:37,900 --> 01:20:43,580
Right, it was a choice. There was a mention here of Tesla Tesla's all the way down in highway 9 the hospitals on highway 9

930
01:20:43,580 --> 01:20:45,540
BMW dealerships on highway 9

931
01:20:45,540 --> 01:20:50,820
That's where a flat roof building would be absolutely accepted probably without much

932
01:20:50,820 --> 01:20:53,660
comments or concerns about aesthetic appearance.

933
01:20:54,220 --> 01:20:56,540
But when you're right up against a residential area,

934
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,420
and that becomes the issue, those were when

935
01:20:59,420 --> 01:21:00,600
it was first kind of purchased

936
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,160
and those were a lot of the residential comments

937
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,120
that were in place.

938
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:07,060
So for me, I kind of feel like a lot of our discussion tonight

939
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:09,580
was to make sure that integrity of aesthetics

940
01:21:09,580 --> 01:21:13,660
that residential, in fact, is there, scale is right,

941
01:21:14,260 --> 01:21:16,080
you know, and it fits kind of one thing.

942
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,520
We want everyone to embrace it and to have it,

943
01:21:18,860 --> 01:21:20,400
but that's the importance of it.

944
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,600
And if it's about choice, choice was in the beginning.

945
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,780
Choice was a commercial site down the street.

946
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,260
They kind of have a flat roof had done that.

947
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:29,180
This was a choice to be right here on the residential.

948
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:30,680
So we wanted to feel residential.

949
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,420
So I just wanted to have those comments

950
01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:34,260
of why some of the statements are made.

951
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:37,380
But because there's history that happened before,

952
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,000
and it just, and it's in the community

953
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,940
and they just wanted to make sure we embrace

954
01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:45,600
all of our folks in faith, but at the same time,

955
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,580
we want to make sure that the aesthetic quality

956
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:48,580
of the neighborhood has protected.

957
01:21:48,580 --> 01:21:50,260
So, thank you.

958
01:21:50,620 --> 01:21:51,900
Any other discussion?

959
01:21:54,420 --> 01:21:55,040
Councilman Druta?

960
01:21:55,860 --> 01:21:57,600
Yes, just a...

961
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,920
Councilman Brady's comments, which are all in line with my thoughts as well.

962
01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:09,200
You know, I think it's important to recognize that both our city staff and the city council

963
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:17,020
is a very sensitive application because of its for a base community and I think we want

964
01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:19,700
I want to support that, particularly in today's world.

965
01:22:20,940 --> 01:22:28,020
The more faith we can instill in our community from older people and down to our young folks

966
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:30,020
is extremely important to me.

967
01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:38,540
And so I view this as hopefully coming down to designing the right facility that is conducive

968
01:22:38,540 --> 01:22:42,300
to the area because we also have to be, as the mayor already pointed out, very sensitive

969
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:45,840
to the neighbors and the property and the impact on their home values and that sort of thing.

970
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:57,720
So we would like a facility that fits into the neighborhood character there at the same time enhances the value of that community in that area at the same time supporting your faith-based community.

971
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:09,060
So, Pastor, I hope you walk away here from tonight trying to figure out the best solution that reacts to the comments from us all here on the council tonight.

972
01:23:12,610 --> 01:23:13,820
There's no other discussion.

973
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,340
All those in favor of the motion to approve is outlined by Mayor Pro Temp.

974
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,820
Please vote yes, otherwise vote according,

975
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:27,120
and it does pass unanimously.

976
01:23:28,020 --> 01:23:28,580
Congratulations.

977
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:44,100
So, the next item up will be item V-25-19, Tesla EV charging stations at Kroger Shopping

978
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:44,540
Center.

979
01:23:51,650 --> 01:23:53,810
Director Cook, once again, you have the floor.

980
01:23:53,810 --> 01:23:54,830
Mayor

981
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:13,180
and Council, the next item is shown to you on the screen, the location, and the

982
01:24:13,180 --> 01:24:18,620
applicant do-barry engineers is requesting consideration of an exception to allow 16

983
01:24:18,620 --> 01:24:24,740
Tesla EV chargers and associated equipment and a commercial parking lot. An exception

984
01:24:24,740 --> 01:24:31,800
is requested to allow the EV chargers associated equipment in the 50-foot front setback along

985
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:38,280
one-word parkway. Properties located at 1-2-870, Highway 9 at the northeast corner,

986
01:24:38,440 --> 01:24:42,920
one-word parkway, and Highway 9 in the Windward Commons Croger Shopping Center.

987
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:51,900
The UDC states that the front setback you cannot have any structures within the front setback.

988
01:24:52,540 --> 01:24:59,920
So that setback, although it's C2, which means it's conditional, it was set at the time of LDP

989
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:07,480
for the land disturbance permit that this would be 50 feet, which means that that's similar to surrounding setbacks.

990
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:15,380
So the request is to retrofit 23 existing parking spaces along when we're parkway within that

991
01:25:15,380 --> 01:25:22,160
Kroger shopping center in order to have the Tesla charging stations.

992
01:25:25,690 --> 01:25:31,710
And they did provide an aerial, which I think is really good to go to show the location a little bit better.

993
01:25:31,710 --> 01:25:38,830
course this is the Wells Fargo and the equipment would be within right now is the 23 parking spaces.

994
01:25:38,930 --> 01:25:45,190
They would reconfigure some of the tree islands, but there's a net gain of trees that they'll be

995
01:25:45,190 --> 01:25:48,130
putting back. Show you what that looks like now.

996
01:25:50,540 --> 01:25:53,780
This is what those parking spaces look like now from

997
01:25:53,780 --> 01:26:00,460
one more parkway looking into the shopping center. After the installation of the 16 chargers,

998
01:26:00,460 --> 01:26:06,620
they would be adding additional shrubs along when we're parkway as well as drift

999
01:26:06,620 --> 01:26:11,560
roses in front of that so there would be some screening. So you will be able

1000
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:17,680
to still see a portion of these posts there's six and a half feet in height but

1001
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,400
the majority of that will be covered with the evergreens. So most of the

1002
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,760
equipment will be screened.

1003
01:26:27,290 --> 01:26:31,870
The city's code now we currently require that all

1004
01:26:31,870 --> 01:26:38,490
All new non-residential developments, we require, if they have 100 or more vehicle parking

1005
01:26:38,490 --> 01:26:42,790
spaces, we do require that they have the electric chargers.

1006
01:26:43,530 --> 01:26:48,430
So if this was, if one word of comments was built constructed today, we would require

1007
01:26:48,430 --> 01:26:52,710
them to have five level three EVCSs.

1008
01:26:53,170 --> 01:26:58,690
The applicant's proposal is for 16 of the Tesla supercharging stations, which exceeds

1009
01:26:59,330 --> 01:27:03,890
the city's minimum requirement. However, within their application they do show

1010
01:27:03,890 --> 01:27:08,290
that they're not going to put signs on these spaces that designate. It's

1011
01:27:08,290 --> 01:27:12,350
only for cars that are charging, so it still meets the parking that's

1012
01:27:12,350 --> 01:27:17,490
required for crowbar. And also it's not just for Tesla, so there is a list of

1013
01:27:17,490 --> 01:27:24,310
other cars that can use electric cars that can use the superchargers. It's my

1014
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:28,290
understanding that it will take anywhere from 10 minutes with these superchargers to

1015
01:27:28,290 --> 01:27:32,050
30 minutes to get the to be fully charged.

1016
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:38,070
As part of the site plan they

1017
01:27:40,210 --> 01:27:45,880
also have one of the

1018
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:54,700
stations that's ADA accessible that has the hatching in order to have accessibility.

1019
01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,680
And again

1020
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:05,260
and then they will replace any of the trees that are removed so they'll meet all of those requirements.

1021
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,080
We reviewed the applicant's proposal.

1022
01:28:09,340 --> 01:28:13,900
We find that the exception does not conflict with the established review criteria.

1023
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:20,040
The proposal represents retrofitting and existing commercial parking lot with EV charging equipment.

1024
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:26,200
And if a proven landscape screening material should be required and we do recommend that as part of the conditions.

1025
01:28:26,780 --> 01:28:30,520
The applicant did notify everyone surrounding with him 500 feet.

1026
01:28:31,020 --> 01:28:36,140
The report states that they did receive questions regarding what type of vehicles will be able

1027
01:28:36,140 --> 01:28:40,900
to use the chargers, how long will it take, and can they leave their car there, do they

1028
01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:43,560
have to stay there while it's being charged.

1029
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:54,460
We are recommending approval of E25-08, Tesla EV chargers at Kroger, Setback Exception,

1030
01:28:54,460 --> 01:29:00,520
Subject to three conditions, and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.

1031
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:05,120
May I vote, Tim?

1032
01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:12,830
Kathy, I just want to make sure that there's a definition for associated equipment that

1033
01:29:12,830 --> 01:29:15,450
does not include awnings that may pop up in the future.

1034
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:16,990
Correct.

1035
01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:19,810
So they are not approved for awnings.

1036
01:29:20,090 --> 01:29:22,010
That would have to come back to council.

1037
01:29:22,730 --> 01:29:25,890
They are only approved for the stations without the awnings.

1038
01:29:26,250 --> 01:29:27,070
So that's a good question.

1039
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:27,630
Thank you.

1040
01:29:29,290 --> 01:29:30,790
Councilman Hypes.

1041
01:29:31,130 --> 01:29:31,490
Thank you, Mayor.

1042
01:29:33,410 --> 01:29:39,070
Director Cook, this may be the start of things to come in our city and other cities

1043
01:29:39,070 --> 01:29:43,110
with private enterprise providing charging stations.

1044
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:50,910
And my question is, is there anything about this variance that creates a precedent for

1045
01:29:50,910 --> 01:29:52,730
future applications?

1046
01:29:52,970 --> 01:29:58,530
I'm anticipating over the next several years we may get more applications coming forward

1047
01:29:58,530 --> 01:29:59,890
for available parkings.

1048
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:30,000
I welcome the investment in this sort of technology in Alpharetta, but from our side of the ledger I want to make sure we're getting it right, we're ahead of the curve and ahead of any anticipated issues. I think we are. I think that the retrofit, the location which is out of the main traffic area, it's an area that they

1049
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,820
selected you know that wasn't closer to the door so I think that that was you

1050
01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:40,040
know a good location plus I like the addition of landscaping and these are

1051
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,980
only six and a half feet in height the the other equipment the cabinet seven

1052
01:30:44,980 --> 01:30:51,240
and a half so I don't think that it is an intrusive you know to see along the

1053
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:55,660
right away so I think it's I think it's a good precedent. What would be the

1054
01:30:55,660 --> 01:30:58,760
the alternative to a variance for the setback request.

1055
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,100
They could put it towards the, more towards this center,

1056
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:04,460
so they didn't have to have,

1057
01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:06,420
it wouldn't be within the setback.

1058
01:31:06,900 --> 01:31:09,980
So if we haven't, we're doing this application,

1059
01:31:10,460 --> 01:31:13,220
but I want to be consistent in the future,

1060
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:15,740
so I'm just trying to understand,

1061
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:17,860
that's what this request is,

1062
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,660
these will be closer to a sidewalk,

1063
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,140
maybe closer to a road that we anticipate widening

1064
01:31:23,140 --> 01:31:31,000
some day or doing a T's plus three in some part of town and this one is staff is recommending

1065
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:37,760
because but maybe in another situation we would we would say no you don't you don't need that.

1066
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:43,540
Right. We'd have to look at each location and request on its own merit. So there's some

1067
01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:49,940
that may even be similar location to a public road but may not be recommended for approval for other

1068
01:31:49,940 --> 01:31:52,020
reasons as you suggest it.

1069
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:52,800
Okay.

1070
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:53,800
Thank you.

1071
01:31:58,420 --> 01:31:59,840
Do you have any other questions?

1072
01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:00,800
Council Member A.

1073
01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:04,240
I think it's really interesting when we see the grocery

1074
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:05,640
anger essentially use space.

1075
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,020
I think there's a lot of changes that are coming.

1076
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:11,480
Just because I think the traffic, I think we're seeing parking

1077
01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:14,540
reduce or the amount of cars coming reduce, right?

1078
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,380
We have more people delivering food today than we ever have before.

1079
01:32:17,500 --> 01:32:20,220
And I think a lot of these reads are trying to understand how

1080
01:32:20,220 --> 01:32:23,120
to get people in efficiently in and out and kind of do that in a

1081
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:28,540
way. So I see the green use of the EV really being something that's coming forward. I'm

1082
01:32:28,540 --> 01:32:32,380
planning on where it is on the parking lot because I think it is really important. We don't

1083
01:32:32,380 --> 01:32:37,240
need to steal them right up front because then we have like ADA and we have other uses of those

1084
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:43,340
and it's tough to put a car there who might leave it for four hours. I guess my end with a question

1085
01:32:43,340 --> 01:32:50,700
are these free? Anybody else kind of use them? How do you go up to and utilize these charging stations?

1086
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,960
It's my understanding that you have to pay, but they're also not putting a sign that

1087
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,320
says, if you're parking there, you must be charging.

1088
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:04,740
But I'll let the applicant answer that if that's okay, but it's my understanding you would

1089
01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:05,780
have to pay for the charge.

1090
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:06,520
Thank you.

1091
01:33:09,130 --> 01:33:10,610
Any other questions from the director?

1092
01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:11,250
Boop.

1093
01:33:12,470 --> 01:33:13,270
Thank you, ma'am.

1094
01:33:13,410 --> 01:33:13,670
Thank you.

1095
01:33:14,590 --> 01:33:16,730
Would the applicant like to come forward at this time?

1096
01:33:27,420 --> 01:33:27,820
Is this on?

1097
01:33:28,180 --> 01:33:28,340
Okay.

1098
01:33:28,580 --> 01:33:28,700
Yes.

1099
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:29,640
Hi.

1100
01:33:29,900 --> 01:33:30,500
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1101
01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:36,620
Thank you, Council. My name is Olivier Kokio and I'm with Tesla. I've been with Tesla for

1102
01:33:37,300 --> 01:33:42,940
more than five years, so five years in August, so five years. Now, as a deployment manager for the

1103
01:33:42,940 --> 01:33:49,820
supercharging group, and we've been installing supercharging stations in nine states in the Southeast,

1104
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:57,540
so Georgia and North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida. But yeah, but I live here in Sandy Springs

1105
01:33:57,540 --> 01:34:03,740
on Razzle Road, and I have two many friends asking me when I'm going to install

1106
01:34:03,740 --> 01:34:07,600
Nutrienting Station in the Alphoretta, so I'm hoping that you guys help me today.

1107
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:16,920
So thank you staff for doing this amazing presentation. I just wanted to add a

1108
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:22,880
few comments and maybe answer some questions that anyone may have if that's

1109
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:31,000
Okay. So, sorry. Oh, I heard something. So, the, oh, it's my voice. Um, so, um,

1110
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:38,060
wanted to say that, um, in alpha right now, we have, um, our existing station with 10

1111
01:34:38,060 --> 01:34:44,380
charge posts, um, in Avalon. Um, and those are the old equipment. So what we call urban

1112
01:34:44,380 --> 01:34:51,220
charging and it's V2 version two. Um, right now we're using version four. So as we can imagine,

1113
01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:57,420
We had a version three and then now we using version four the picture that you saw I sound on screening more

1114
01:34:57,420 --> 01:35:04,760
But the white church was those are version four that charge way faster and again also that uses Nax

1115
01:35:05,300 --> 01:35:11,440
North America charging standards that allows non Tesla vehicles to charge at those charging stations as well, right?

1116
01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:16,480
So at the beginning a little bit of history charging station. We used to use

1117
01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:18,680
CCS adapters

1118
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:33,580
Tesla now using the NACS North America trading standards with a lot of OEMs like maybe all of them getting on board using the NACS having vehicles manufactured with NACS integrated starting in 2025.

1119
01:35:33,660 --> 01:35:39,880
So all of these people will start charging at our test stations as well.

1120
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:48,620
The avalanche charging station sees thousands of charging sessions per month and right now

1121
01:35:48,620 --> 01:35:54,520
an average every month we see 75 to 100 waiting waiters.

1122
01:35:54,680 --> 01:36:01,720
What do we call waiters are whenever a customer comes in and has to wait for more than 10 minutes

1123
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:02,300
to charge.

1124
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:08,380
So that's really one of our key indicators that we need to install more charging stations

1125
01:36:08,380 --> 01:36:11,580
in this area because we hate to see people waiting.

1126
01:36:12,260 --> 01:36:14,620
Customer experience is very big for us.

1127
01:36:15,740 --> 01:36:18,220
So therefore we, this is the reason why,

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01:36:18,380 --> 01:36:20,700
many reason why we want to install a new charging station

1129
01:36:20,700 --> 01:36:22,560
and also with new equipment.

1130
01:36:23,740 --> 01:36:27,720
And we've been opening stations for the past,

1131
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,800
well, like since I joined Tesla,

1132
01:36:30,380 --> 01:36:32,920
when I joined Tesla it was only three states in Georgia.

1133
01:36:33,260 --> 01:36:34,300
Now we have over 20.

1134
01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:42,060
And every time we open a charging station, a charging station, more people buy Tesla in

1135
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:44,760
the area, more people come to charge to that station.

1136
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,860
It's like the chicken and the egg, right?

1137
01:36:47,180 --> 01:36:50,180
So you place them there, people are coming.

1138
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:56,120
So I'll stop there and answer questions because I'm sure some of you have some.

1139
01:36:56,700 --> 01:37:01,740
And I wanted to introduce David with the very, because I know we mentioned the bear here,

1140
01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:04,340
our engineering firm that we've contracted for this site.

1141
01:37:06,140 --> 01:37:10,620
Excellent. Thank you. Council member, I'm going to ask all the,

1142
01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:15,100
other say, the unknown questions for those that don't use EVs all the time.

1143
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,000
So just that we don't mind. This is an educational quick question.

1144
01:37:18,860 --> 01:37:20,700
We have those out here. Is there any issues?

1145
01:37:21,380 --> 01:37:25,480
You know, it rains, you're charging. Could it go on fire? Do we need fire suppression?

1146
01:37:26,140 --> 01:37:28,660
Is there any damages, any risk or anything like this?

1147
01:37:28,660 --> 01:37:34,080
to anybody using this under any weather conditions that you might have out there or heat or sun

1148
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:39,060
or any of those things that will create any environmental issues, any hazards to the

1149
01:37:39,060 --> 01:37:41,880
users, and then how long do these things last?

1150
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:46,320
How often it need to be replaced, and what kind of condition, just for an education, I'd

1151
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,980
love to hear that.

1152
01:37:48,820 --> 01:37:52,700
Is that part of my 10 minutes, or can I have time to answer the question?

1153
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,340
Responding to questions does not count against you.

1154
01:37:58,340 --> 01:38:06,240
Okay, all right. Okay. So there's a lot of things that were said here. Apologies if I miss any so you can ask and let me know if I miss any.

1155
01:38:06,820 --> 01:38:13,500
I wanted to say I think one of you asked about canopies. There's no canopy for that charging station. Absolutely not.

1156
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:24,300
But you know in terms of an environment like Tesla every charging station that we install is really related to Tesla's core mission to accelerate.

1157
01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:28,360
accelerate the transition to sustainable energy.

1158
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:38,700
In terms of hazard, there is none in terms of direct hazard with vehicles, electric vehicles.

1159
01:38:39,140 --> 01:38:46,000
When you're charging, you can charge under any weather conditions, if it's raining,

1160
01:38:47,220 --> 01:38:53,620
if there's a lot of heat, and a lot of people choose to stay in the vehicle with the AC on while

1161
01:38:53,620 --> 01:38:58,200
you charging. I sound the same thing as gas station where it's recommended to turn off the engine.

1162
01:38:58,900 --> 01:39:04,680
So you can stay in the car as you're charging and as a matter of fact you have entertainment

1163
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:10,960
while you're charging. You can watch Netflix. You can do all kinds of stuff when you are charging.

1164
01:39:12,140 --> 01:39:16,220
But however, like as you can see, we love installing charging stations,

1165
01:39:16,220 --> 01:39:19,360
and turning stations where people have amenities,

1166
01:39:20,060 --> 01:39:22,880
whether they need to use the restrooms

1167
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,520
or they need to do some shopping

1168
01:39:24,980 --> 01:39:28,320
because as the lady indicated before,

1169
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:33,060
the trading session can take 30 to 45 minutes, right?

1170
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,260
Depending on how low the battery is

1171
01:39:35,260 --> 01:39:37,060
and how long you need to charge, right?

1172
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,260
So fire, it's actually not recommended

1173
01:39:41,260 --> 01:39:42,720
for someone driving a vehicle

1174
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:49,720
So, if it catches fire to be the one to attend to it, but we've never had, well, not to

1175
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:55,040
my knowledge, at least in the southeast, any incident where, as we're charging, a station

1176
01:39:55,040 --> 01:40:03,240
charging, a car, a vehicle catches fire, we also have made significant improvement in terms

1177
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:08,420
of the material that we use when it's escaping because sometimes when it gets heated, you know,

1178
01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:13,300
there are some materials that we use that are not recommended for additional

1179
01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:17,360
lightscabings, so we have made significant improvement in that. In terms of

1180
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:26,540
services, how long the stations last? For us, we look at 15 years, right? So, and we

1181
01:40:26,540 --> 01:40:34,300
are very, very dedicated to providing a significant, a highly uptime, so more

1182
01:40:34,300 --> 01:40:40,540
99%. So if a station is a charge post is not working, we have service personnel attending

1183
01:40:40,540 --> 01:40:47,200
to those charge rolls. And generally speaking, the where and there is not a big deal because

1184
01:40:48,140 --> 01:40:55,120
the passage drivers usually are very responsible. And whenever there's an issue, it gets

1185
01:40:55,120 --> 01:41:00,400
reported very quickly and it gets attended to very quickly. So did I miss something?

1186
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,540
Okay, no problem. Any other questions?

1187
01:41:06,660 --> 01:41:10,040
I've got one for you. I'm just curious. Are you working

1188
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:19,240
on installing the charging stations for our public safety and police? I would love to. I was just

1189
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:25,440
curious. We actually have begun a test of Teslas and the police department and we are installing

1190
01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:28,580
two of them. I just wasn't sure if it was the same technology.

1191
01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:34,920
No, there's four charges that are going in in our public safety headquarters that we've

1192
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:39,040
done in an arrangement with Georgia Power with Tesla, and our police chief could speak

1193
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,200
to it further if you have specific questions, but I don't think the projects are related.

1194
01:41:44,540 --> 01:41:44,780
Okay.

1195
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:46,200
Councilman Hypes?

1196
01:41:48,260 --> 01:41:55,180
For starters, did you say Tesla has a company has done 20 in Georgia?

1197
01:41:56,940 --> 01:42:00,100
I don't remember the exact number, but we have about 20 in Georgia, yes.

1198
01:42:00,220 --> 01:42:04,740
In Canada, this one, this would be out of the 22 would be in Al-Foretta.

1199
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:08,240
Wait, is it out again?

1200
01:42:08,580 --> 01:42:10,960
So I was just struck by the number.

1201
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:17,200
You said there's like 20 Tesla EV stations in Georgia, and two of these will end up being

1202
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:18,660
in Al-Foretta, two of those 20.

1203
01:42:19,060 --> 01:42:23,320
Oh, well, it would be more than 20, yes, we'll be in Al-Foretta, that's correct.

1204
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:24,100
Yes.

1205
01:42:25,060 --> 01:42:27,160
My other questions were,

1206
01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:35,740
so this one is 16 stations, is there any considerations that

1207
01:42:35,740 --> 01:42:40,480
we as a city and you as a company would need to address on infrastructure primarily?

1208
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:49,660
What's providing the current, when you're out in a parking lot, where are you getting

1209
01:42:49,660 --> 01:42:55,200
and how are you providing the electricity for these stations?

1210
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:57,720
Is that something that you all put in?

1211
01:42:58,180 --> 01:42:59,060
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

1212
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:06,180
So before we, so the steps in determining, you know,

1213
01:43:06,420 --> 01:43:10,540
from conception to installation of those charging stations,

1214
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:14,900
first, the demand comes from the data that I shared before

1215
01:43:14,900 --> 01:43:17,820
looking at existing charging stations,

1216
01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:19,700
and looking at how many sessions they get per month

1217
01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:22,080
and looking at how many waiter events,

1218
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,020
they have people waiting for when in 10 minutes.

1219
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,420
Then we decide to install a train station.

1220
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:28,820
We go out there, our business development team,

1221
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,320
they go out there and try to make a deal

1222
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,480
with the property owners in an area

1223
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:37,040
that makes sense like when we're part way, you know,

1224
01:43:37,260 --> 01:43:37,640
makes sense.

1225
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:43,000
Now once that happens, this is where I get involved

1226
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:44,920
from the business development team,

1227
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,740
they get in touch with someone like me

1228
01:43:46,740 --> 01:43:49,840
to say, hey, we want to install a chain station within this property.

1229
01:43:50,440 --> 01:43:54,780
My job, one of my first job is to first reach out to the jurisdiction to understand what

1230
01:43:54,780 --> 01:44:00,740
would be the requirements to install this conception, a conceptual charging station.

1231
01:44:01,340 --> 01:44:03,900
And then, but the second part is also to reach out to the utility.

1232
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,440
In this case, this is Georgia Power, and we have an excellent relationship with Georgia Power.

1233
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:13,480
So that has already been taken place where we reach out to Georgia Power and tell them, hey,

1234
01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:19,080
we have a plan to install 16 charging stations based on 16 charging stations we tell them what the

1235
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:24,560
demand for power will be for the 16 charging stations and they tell us what size transformer they

1236
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:31,380
need to install and that is a 2500 KVA transformer and then once that happens there's a second part

1237
01:44:31,380 --> 01:44:36,360
which is the easement that they need to work with with the property which is something that is

1238
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:42,840
facilitated by Tesla as well but in this particular case Tesla and Georgia power already have been

1239
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,440
and in communication with utility coordination

1240
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:47,620
to make sure that they can provide power

1241
01:44:47,620 --> 01:44:49,900
and they actually told us where to install the transformer.

1242
01:44:50,140 --> 01:44:52,420
So the transformer location that you see on the plan

1243
01:44:52,420 --> 01:44:56,000
has been approved and blessed by Georgia Power.

1244
01:44:56,860 --> 01:44:58,600
All right, and that's why I was trying to get to,

1245
01:44:58,800 --> 01:44:59,920
the who puts in the end.

1246
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:29,900
You pay for electricity and then this, you pay for your, what, I don't want to sound dumb about this. Is it, you pay for killer watch? What's the killer hour? Yeah, yes. Use your credit card, you're tapped to pay. Oh, two things. You're asking for Tesla or the customer. So Tesla has no, oh, the customer. Okay, the customer pays for killer hour and they have an account like the, the car technically has an account with, with Tesla, right? And every time you charge, after the trading session is done,

1247
01:45:32,580 --> 01:45:39,820
And last and related points here in terms of safety these these operate can operate 24 hours

1248
01:45:39,820 --> 01:45:47,800
a day 24-7 and who's responsible for any lighting considerations is if you decide to charge

1249
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:52,440
at two o'clock in the morning and you're sitting in your car at two o'clock in the morning in a

1250
01:45:52,440 --> 01:46:03,140
Kroger parking lot. Who takes on the responsibility for safety and lighting? Is that the Kroger owner or is that Tesla because they're the ones profiting from those who take care of that?

1251
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:09,800
No, so that's a very good question because we care so much and I believe there was one applicant who mentioned the same thing.

1252
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:17,360
We hear a lot about people safety, and we have found that a lot of times when we install

1253
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:28,600
the test at charging stations in an area where the lights come on at dawn, like sometimes

1254
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:34,060
we don't control when the lights stay on or get off, right?

1255
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:42,220
So what we've decided moving forward on all test attunionsations is to install our own lighting that is fed from the

1256
01:46:42,940 --> 01:46:47,620
The transformer that is installed by Georgia power. So is that part of this project? Yes

1257
01:46:47,620 --> 01:46:51,920
And where is where is the lighting in this project is it?

1258
01:46:52,800 --> 01:47:00,740
Ballard lighting is it overhead lighting? Is it it's a pole? It's a light is a lighting fixture mounted on a pole

1259
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:54,590
And those are between the stations and the sidewalk.

1260
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:07,240
And is that you have the floor, but I'm going to kind of look over toward director cook.

1261
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:11,940
are these going to be standard city lighting fixtures like we have for

1262
01:48:11,940 --> 01:48:14,760
other locations are they going to install their own are they going to go

1263
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:20,300
through some process are we going to be happy with what they put in just

1264
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,420
tell me I'll be happy. We're going to be happy. They're going to they're going to

1265
01:48:30,420 --> 01:48:34,920
submit the application and we'll we'll approve the fixture and a 15 foot height

1266
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:39,820
that's not very tall usually we see 30 foot they're definitely putting in a man

1267
01:48:39,820 --> 01:48:43,060
at a pedestrian level to get that light.

1268
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:49,140
Okay. Well, in conclusion with my questions, I'm interested in knowing what you're going

1269
01:48:49,140 --> 01:48:53,200
to be doing for safety, for people who are sitting in a parking lot, who may be alone,

1270
01:48:53,480 --> 01:48:58,600
may be vulnerable. And I'm also interested in the upkeep of the area. It may be a Kroger

1271
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:03,900
shopping center. But, you know, if people get bored and there's no place to put their trash

1272
01:49:03,900 --> 01:49:09,700
or something, I want to know that if you're going to have people congregate there so that

1273
01:49:09,700 --> 01:49:13,800
we keep the area nice and clean and safe for our residents.

1274
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,260
Is that all being addressed?

1275
01:49:15,580 --> 01:49:16,700
Right, that is being addressed.

1276
01:49:17,060 --> 01:49:20,140
So generally speaking and including for this station,

1277
01:49:20,700 --> 01:49:24,280
we look at providing lighting, dedicated lighting

1278
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,160
because we want to control that in a way, right?

1279
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:29,040
As long as our station is working,

1280
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:30,040
we want to provide lighting.

1281
01:49:30,580 --> 01:49:32,560
And the second thing providing trash cans

1282
01:49:33,190 --> 01:49:35,460
so that people don't have to walk so far away

1283
01:49:35,460 --> 01:49:36,920
to dispose of their trash.

1284
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:42,980
But the agreement is between Tesla and the property owner to service these trash cans.

1285
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:49,560
And we have systems in place for the customers to report any kind of issues.

1286
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,280
Like immediately, for example, if the trash cans are not being serviced,

1287
01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:57,340
where then we go and address that concern with the property owner.

1288
01:49:57,980 --> 01:50:03,200
But just a person to note, like whenever I open a new station, like for the next three months,

1289
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:14,720
I visit the station often because it's like my baby, so there's also that where they're getting dedicated attention from a Tesla employee who knows the project very well.

1290
01:50:15,140 --> 01:50:22,660
I appreciate you answering my questions and I don't know how this is going to go but I'm excited about the investment if it goes well.

1291
01:50:22,860 --> 01:50:23,660
We're excited as well.

1292
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,560
Any other questions about the Tesla Chargers?

1293
01:50:29,940 --> 01:50:30,640
Seeing none.

1294
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,240
Thank you very much.

1295
01:50:32,540 --> 01:50:33,140
Thank you.

1296
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:38,160
We have no public comment cards in favor of this item.

1297
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,060
Do we have any in opposition?

1298
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:43,920
I have none in opposition, either.

1299
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:50,140
If there's anyone who would like to come and speak in favor, now is your chance.

1300
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,140
I see no one coming forward.

1301
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,740
Is there anyone who would like to speak in opposition?

1302
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,200
Once again, I see no one come forward.

1303
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,260
So we'll close public comment, go ahead and motion from council.

1304
01:51:03,260 --> 01:51:10,100
Yes, Mr. Mayor, I'd offer a motion this evening to approve V-25-19 Tesla EV charging

1305
01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:17,260
stake at the Kroger Shopping Center with an addition to number two that light fixtures

1306
01:51:17,260 --> 01:51:22,160
shall complement existing lighting and require staff approval.

1307
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:29,980
We have a motion to approve by Mayor Pro Tem Markham, the second by Councilman Hikes.

1308
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:32,140
Any discussion?

1309
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:41,600
All those in favor of the motion to approve, please vote, yes, otherwise vote accordingly.

1310
01:51:51,390 --> 01:51:52,810
Just keeping you in suspense.

1311
01:51:53,470 --> 01:51:54,730
It does pass unanimously.

1312
01:51:59,060 --> 01:52:00,520
You can, but there's no need to.

1313
01:52:01,300 --> 01:52:03,940
It can only go bad for you from this point.

1314
01:52:05,860 --> 01:52:07,280
But thank you very much.

1315
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:09,360
We appreciate your investment in our community.

1316
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:11,080
So,

1317
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:20,560
printed agenda, as I mentioned earlier, that item will be deferred to October.

1318
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:22,680
So, the next item up,

1319
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,500
do we also have the vertiport deferred?

1320
01:52:28,780 --> 01:52:33,880
Yes, sir. That's correct. We are now in the new business, item A.

1321
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:39,180
Okay. I just didn't have that in quite a few deferrals.

1322
01:52:39,180 --> 01:52:41,500
Let's move

1323
01:52:44,220 --> 01:52:55,160
on to the new business portion of tonight's meeting and the first item up is the resolution for the City of Alfredo Arts and Culture Master Plan.

1324
01:52:58,230 --> 01:53:00,890
Mr. Mayor, I'm going to go ahead and read the resolution if that's okay.

1325
01:53:01,410 --> 01:53:01,930
Please.

1326
01:53:02,510 --> 01:53:05,490
The presenter becomes ward.

1327
01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:11,430
A resolution by the Mayor and Council of the City of Alfredo Georgia to adopt the City of Alfredo Arts and Culture Master Plan.

1328
01:53:11,430 --> 01:53:14,710
Thank you very much, director Rogers.

1329
01:53:15,250 --> 01:53:16,070
Great to be back.

1330
01:53:16,610 --> 01:53:21,550
We were seeking adoption for the resolution approving the arts and cultural master plan.

1331
01:53:22,250 --> 01:53:26,830
We worked shopped this item several months ago with Mayor and Council.

1332
01:53:27,010 --> 01:53:30,210
There were a few questions and comments at the time.

1333
01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:37,550
Staff and the T.S.W. our consultant addressed those questions and concerns

1334
01:53:37,550 --> 01:53:45,150
and made several changes that I'd like to note from the workshop item from the

1335
01:53:45,150 --> 01:53:50,550
workshop plan you had to the one that we were presenting tonight. First is that

1336
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:56,530
we moved economic development to number four in the priorities and strategies.

1337
01:53:57,270 --> 01:54:01,730
We added the word roadmap to better explain that this is a directional

1338
01:54:01,730 --> 01:54:11,310
or document, not necessarily to do list, we clarified the funding element updated that

1339
01:54:11,310 --> 01:54:15,950
the city would need to help to develop a Friends of the Nonprofit Group to develop a

1340
01:54:15,950 --> 01:54:19,470
compelling statement and to put together a fundraising campaign.

1341
01:54:20,150 --> 01:54:27,170
And we also changed art software to a generic, arch nonprofit to clarify that the city needs

1342
01:54:27,170 --> 01:54:32,350
He's a friend of the nonprofit to do the fundraising because that was a big issue of fundraising.

1343
01:54:32,730 --> 01:54:37,350
So we have addressed all of those questions that were asked or comments that were held

1344
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:38,350
at that night.

1345
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:43,330
And so we submit this master plan for approval and I'd be glad to answer any questions

1346
01:54:43,330 --> 01:54:43,930
that you may have.

1347
01:54:44,610 --> 01:54:46,930
Do we have any questions for Director Rogers?

1348
01:54:49,780 --> 01:54:54,600
Thank you very much for going back in and taking the feedback that you got from our council

1349
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,260
and bringing us a finished product.

1350
01:54:56,580 --> 01:54:56,660
Right.

1351
01:54:56,660 --> 01:55:04,780
And I would like to personally thank Alison Stewart Harris with TSW who did a lot of

1352
01:55:04,780 --> 01:55:11,560
above and beyond on this project as a consultant, as well as Kim Zane, who is the manager for

1353
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,640
us for the arts and culture, did a lot of above and beyond.

1354
01:55:15,140 --> 01:55:20,540
And they took a document that could be very dry and made it exciting and fun, so I appreciate

1355
01:55:20,540 --> 01:55:21,080
their efforts.

1356
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:28,580
Thank you, sir. We appreciate your whole team's effort. Any questions for Director Rogers

1357
01:55:28,580 --> 01:55:29,240
on this item?

1358
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,800
Is there a period we have any public comment cards?

1359
01:55:35,060 --> 01:55:39,460
We do not, Mr. Mayor. However, there's anyone that would like to come forward and speak on

1360
01:55:39,460 --> 01:55:46,160
this item now as your chance. Seeing no one come forward, we'll close public comment. Do

1361
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:51,720
I have a motion from Council? Yes, Mayor. I make a motion that Council adopt the resolution

1362
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,200
of approving the City Arts Cultural Master Plan.

1363
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:55,200
Second.

1364
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,240
A motion by Councilman Hikes to approve.

1365
01:55:58,540 --> 01:55:59,860
Second by Councilman Brady.

1366
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:01,160
Any discussion?

1367
01:56:03,780 --> 01:56:06,940
All those in favor of the motion to approve, please vote yes.

1368
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:11,660
And it does pass unanimously.

1369
01:56:12,420 --> 01:56:12,980
Congratulations.

1370
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,180
So next item is the Intergovernmental Agreement,

1371
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,280
Fulton County Schools for Participation

1372
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,340
and Community Agricultural Programming.

1373
01:56:23,220 --> 01:56:25,180
Mr. Rogers, once again you had the floor.

1374
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:26,280
Thank you very much.

1375
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:30,880
We are, again, asking for approval of an intergovernment agreement between the city of

1376
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:36,300
Alfredo and Fulton County representing Cambridge High School, Alfredo High School, Milton

1377
01:56:36,300 --> 01:56:38,160
High School, and Innovation Academy.

1378
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:46,180
This is just to formalize what, oh, well, this is the same contract that we've had with these,

1379
01:56:46,580 --> 01:56:50,660
but we had them individually in Fulton County ask us to put them all together and want and

1380
01:56:50,660 --> 01:56:51,960
have various parts of that.

1381
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:57,480
So we're just continuing that tradition of working closely with the schools that have

1382
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:03,120
alpha-red residents that go to them, all of these schools have residents that attend

1383
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:03,500
those.

1384
01:57:03,500 --> 01:57:04,920
We work closely with them.

1385
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:12,060
We also have an agreement with 10 schools as far as our garden support program where we're

1386
01:57:12,060 --> 01:57:19,020
supporting the schools to have community gardens on site and learn what it's like to

1387
01:57:19,020 --> 01:57:19,780
grow your own food.

1388
01:57:19,780 --> 01:57:25,740
So we're real proud of this particular project, particularly with the with Cambridge Innovation

1389
01:57:27,260 --> 01:57:31,840
Milton and Alfred High School. Each of them play a different role and is outlined and they're

1390
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:36,420
be glad to go over those details if y'all would like for me too.

1391
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:39,380
Anyone want him to?

1392
01:57:42,950 --> 01:57:43,730
We'll defer.

1393
01:57:45,830 --> 01:57:50,530
Thank you sir. You sure do we have any public comment cards?

1394
01:57:50,530 --> 01:57:51,530
We do not, Mr. Mayor.

1395
01:57:52,090 --> 01:57:55,110
However, there's a chance to come speak up on this item.

1396
01:57:56,110 --> 01:57:58,090
I'm not seeing anyone come forward,

1397
01:57:58,330 --> 01:57:59,750
so we'll close public comment.

1398
01:58:00,490 --> 01:58:01,790
I have a motion from the council.

1399
01:58:02,490 --> 01:58:04,330
Mr. Mayor, make a motion to council approve

1400
01:58:04,330 --> 01:58:06,070
an intergovernmental agreement

1401
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:08,410
between City of Alfred and Fulton County Schools

1402
01:58:08,410 --> 01:58:10,170
on behalf of Cambridge High School,

1403
01:58:10,330 --> 01:58:12,010
Alfred of High School, Milton High School,

1404
01:58:12,430 --> 01:58:17,270
and Innovation Academy for Community Agricultural Programming

1405
01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:21,310
and authorize mayor to execute all necessary documents.

1406
01:58:21,730 --> 01:58:22,310
Second.

1407
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:24,610
I have a motion by Councilman Hypes,

1408
01:58:24,690 --> 01:58:26,310
a second by Councilman Dorito.

1409
01:58:27,410 --> 01:58:27,850
Any discussion?

1410
01:58:29,650 --> 01:58:30,450
Councilman Dorito?

1411
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:33,490
Yes, Director Rogers.

1412
01:58:33,850 --> 01:58:35,890
Reason why I don't think we need to hear the details

1413
01:58:35,890 --> 01:58:38,110
was we've had tremendous presentations

1414
01:58:38,110 --> 01:58:41,090
from high school students who go through this kind of

1415
01:58:41,790 --> 01:58:43,530
relationship with former county schools.

1416
01:58:44,190 --> 01:58:46,910
I'm always impressed at the students

1417
01:58:46,910 --> 01:58:53,870
knowledge and what they gain from just business acumen and operating the farm and the things

1418
01:58:53,870 --> 01:58:59,930
that they provide to North Fulton Charities, Food Bank, and stuff, and it's just a tremendous

1419
01:58:59,930 --> 01:59:04,350
program and a great partnership with Fulton County Schools, so thank you very much.

1420
01:59:04,650 --> 01:59:11,830
Thank you. Obviously, I agree with the Councilman Dorito that it is a tremendous program. It encompasses

1421
01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:18,370
is hundreds and hundreds of volunteers throughout the year as well as what is happening with

1422
01:59:18,370 --> 01:59:18,990
the schools.

1423
01:59:19,310 --> 01:59:24,770
But then you have the the bees that are out there that the folks at innovation are tracking

1424
01:59:24,770 --> 01:59:30,250
the bees and it's just a tremendous program and it's being well received by the communities

1425
01:59:30,250 --> 01:59:30,950
that thank you.

1426
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:40,300
So seeing no other discussion, all those in favor of the motion to approve please vote yes.

1427
01:59:40,300 --> 01:59:48,260
It does pass unanimously, congratulations on all that hard work coming to fruition.

1428
01:59:49,780 --> 01:59:56,840
Next item up, very exciting invitation to bid, 26-003 pine shavings.

1429
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,840
So we're running.

1430
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,120
So this particular item is a consideration for approval of an award for the invitation of

1431
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:14,800
bid to Queen Wood products for pine shavings for the Equestrian Center. That's the pine

1432
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:19,860
shavings basically keep the horses in a neat environment when they're in their stalls.

1433
02:00:21,460 --> 02:00:27,620
Those conditions are covered under by the Georgia Department of Agriculture that tells us how

1434
02:00:27,620 --> 02:00:34,380
much each horse needs and in our case we they have to have two bales of pine

1435
02:00:34,380 --> 02:00:40,660
shavings per horse. This particular contract we will purchase those bales for

1436
02:00:40,660 --> 02:00:45,880
$4.80 and we turn around and sell them for $8. That includes the labor and

1437
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:52,000
the transportation all of that so it's it's just a continuation of what we've

1438
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,900
been doing for a long time that few questions there. Thanks sir. Councilman

1439
02:00:59,500 --> 02:01:05,840
in the packet that says total cost is $123,000, is that an annual or is that a cover of

1440
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:09,240
the five years? That's an annual cost. Okay, thank you.

1441
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:19,980
Any other questions for Dr. Rodgers? Seeing none, thank you, sir. Mr. Perot.

1442
02:01:20,260 --> 02:01:24,080
We have no public comment cards. However, if you'd like to come speak about

1443
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:30,760
time savings now is your chance. I don't see a rush so I'll go ahead and close public comment.

1444
02:01:33,290 --> 02:01:40,710
Do I have a motion from council? Yes, ma'am. It's my privilege to ask council to approve the award

1445
02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:50,370
invitation to bid 26-003 to Queenwood's products for a five-year contract for Will's Park Equestrian

1446
02:01:50,370 --> 02:01:57,210
and center pine shavings in an amount not to exceed $123,000 per year and authorize the

1447
02:01:57,210 --> 02:01:58,350
mayor to execute all necessary.

1448
02:01:59,230 --> 02:02:05,290
I'd be happy to second that motion by Councilman Hives and the second by Councilman Brady.

1449
02:02:06,030 --> 02:02:06,970
Any discussion?

1450
02:02:11,380 --> 02:02:17,540
All those in favor please vote yes before I have to hear another time and

1451
02:02:19,970 --> 02:02:21,190
it does pass unanimously.

1452
02:02:21,190 --> 02:02:21,530
So

1453
02:02:26,590 --> 02:02:32,970
the next item is the resolution for the development impact fee advisory committee appointments.

1454
02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:35,910
Ms. S. Wein, do you mind reading this resolution?

1455
02:02:36,830 --> 02:02:43,490
A resolution by the Mayor and Council of the City of Offereda, Georgia appointing seven members of the city's development impact fee advisory committee.

1456
02:02:45,660 --> 02:02:51,720
Thank you very much, Mr. Doyle, you finally get to speak, you have the floor.

1457
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:55,130
Thank you, Mayor and Council.

1458
02:02:56,150 --> 02:03:01,170
We are seeking your authorization to approve staff's recommended appointments for the development

1459
02:03:01,170 --> 02:03:06,430
impact fee advisory committee as part of the city's impact fee program update.

1460
02:03:07,170 --> 02:03:13,330
Committee appointments are a necessary preliminary step that we need to do in establishing any

1461
02:03:13,330 --> 02:03:19,430
future updates to Alfredo's existing fee program because the Georgia Planning Act requires

1462
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:27,970
local governments utilizing an impact fee system to establish such a committee prior to the adoption of any ordinance updates or amendments.

1463
02:03:29,710 --> 02:03:36,810
Recommended appointees are determined in accordance with the state's minimum planning standards, procedures and impact fee compliance requirements.

1464
02:03:37,550 --> 02:03:40,270
At this time, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer those.

1465
02:03:41,230 --> 02:03:41,690
Thank you.

1466
02:03:42,010 --> 02:03:43,870
Do we have any questions from Mr. Doer?

1467
02:03:43,870 --> 02:03:50,470
So, Councilman Dreda, one's the last time we did this, we've reviewed our impact fee structure.

1468
02:03:51,150 --> 02:03:56,990
So last time we updated our impact fee, our capital improvement element was actually

1469
02:03:56,990 --> 02:04:03,730
back in 2015, annually, we update our short-term work program, which is the five-year component

1470
02:04:03,730 --> 02:04:04,690
of that CIE.

1471
02:04:05,150 --> 02:04:05,390
Okay.

1472
02:04:05,710 --> 02:04:05,950
Thank you.

1473
02:04:06,310 --> 02:04:06,450
Yes.

1474
02:04:08,150 --> 02:04:09,870
Any other questions from Mr. Dreda?

1475
02:04:11,590 --> 02:04:12,850
Thank you very much, sir.

1476
02:04:12,850 --> 02:04:16,980
You're welcome. Do I have a motion from Council?

1477
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,240
In Mr. Mayor, I have no public comment cards on this item.

1478
02:04:20,700 --> 02:04:22,540
Thank you. I was getting ahead of myself.

1479
02:04:23,740 --> 02:04:26,980
But just in case anybody wants to come forward and speak on this process.

1480
02:04:26,980 --> 02:04:28,180
Now is your opportunity.

1481
02:04:30,580 --> 02:04:31,860
And we'll close public comment.

1482
02:04:32,780 --> 02:04:34,740
Do I have a motion from Council now?

1483
02:04:34,780 --> 02:04:39,120
Yes, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. I would offer a resolution to approve

1484
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:43,080
development impact fee advisory committee appointments as presented by the

1485
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:44,100
Community Development Department.

1486
02:04:45,140 --> 02:04:46,880
We have a motion, do we have a second?

1487
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:47,420
Second.

1488
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:50,160
I have a motion by Mayor Pro Tems.

1489
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:50,800
Mayor Colton.

1490
02:04:51,020 --> 02:04:52,460
Second by Councilman Dorito.

1491
02:04:53,740 --> 02:04:54,200
In discussion?

1492
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,820
Seeing none, all those in favor, please vote yes.

1493
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:00,240
Otherwise, we're recording.

1494
02:05:02,500 --> 02:05:04,440
And it does pass unanimously.

1495
02:05:05,020 --> 02:05:06,780
We may want to recapture that.

1496
02:05:06,940 --> 02:05:08,620
It didn't capture Councilman Doritos vote.

1497
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:22,120
It's still unanimous.

1498
02:05:24,810 --> 02:05:30,410
So the motion passes we'll move on to public comment. There's any public here

1499
02:05:30,410 --> 02:05:35,490
They would like to come comment and house your chance. I don't see anyone coming forward

1500
02:05:35,490 --> 02:05:38,010
So we'll close public comment reports

1501
02:05:38,690 --> 02:05:39,910
You have any reports?

1502
02:05:41,230 --> 02:05:43,550
I'd like to have two reports then

1503
02:05:44,090 --> 02:05:52,550
So one we have one heck of a mayor 5k on Thursday and I'm very grateful to all the volunteers from the roadway

1504
02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:57,330
club of Alphabeta, all our sponsors, all our major employers that participated, it was

1505
02:05:57,330 --> 02:06:04,830
a great event, great weather, and I survived. So that's a good thing. We definitely

1506
02:06:04,830 --> 02:06:09,030
raised a lot of money for good nonprofits and charities in our community, and that's

1507
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:14,890
a big thing. So it's always good to have fun, get a little exercise, and also raise money

1508
02:06:14,890 --> 02:06:21,950
for those who need. I also want to mention for anyone who hasn't paid attention, if you're

1509
02:06:21,950 --> 02:06:28,650
We're in the 21st Senate District for the State of Georgia, which is Brandon Beach's

1510
02:06:28,650 --> 02:06:32,190
former seat.

1511
02:06:33,970 --> 02:06:36,470
The last day to vote is tomorrow.

1512
02:06:37,870 --> 02:06:43,250
So please, if you haven't already voted, exercise your right to vote.

1513
02:06:43,810 --> 02:06:49,390
It's going to be very important to have someone representing Al Fareda down at the State House.

1514
02:06:49,870 --> 02:06:54,530
That being said, it's all the reports I have, and I believe we have no executive session,

1515
02:06:54,690 --> 02:06:55,770
but I'll check to confirm.

1516
02:06:57,130 --> 02:06:57,510
Yay.

1517
02:06:58,830 --> 02:06:59,370
All right.

1518
02:06:59,770 --> 02:07:01,850
So, do we have a motion to adjourn?

1519
02:07:01,950 --> 02:07:02,830
Motion to adjourn.

1520
02:07:03,150 --> 02:07:03,290
Second.

1521
02:07:03,610 --> 02:07:07,430
We have a motion by Councilman Hyves, a second by Mayor Pro Tem, Markle.

1522
02:07:07,790 --> 02:07:10,650
All those in favor, please vote yes.

1523
02:07:13,980 --> 02:07:15,120
And it passes unanimously.

1524
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:17,060
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

1525
02:07:17,060 --> 02:07:18,480
and look forward to seeing you next time.