Okay, yep. There's two seats up front here, are available for those that are standing.
Okay, and we should, we should have a presentation for
CalTrans and there's various county staff that we'll be talking about what we're out here and concerned about, which is, of course, the road closure.
And the meeting will be led by Nicole Williams and our county administrative officer, and I'm turning it over to her.
and other staff. Thank you.
Good morning. Thank you for coming to our meeting.
I just want you to know that the information we're going to give to you.
We just got yesterday late afternoon.
And we didn't want to have a meeting and give you all any information.
Well, we didn't have any information to give you until yesterday.
So, you know, I have Sheriff Tom Minder and Fire Chief.
Here are a huge year with me.
So we're going to,
we're just going to give some information,
fire chief will give some information
and then Cal Trans is hopefully on Zoom
and they'll give an update also.
And then we'll take questions from you all after that.
Good morning, everybody.
Chef Tom Minder, what a way to start camping, right?
the new shares position.
So, so information on what's going on with the road. Right now,
CalPhan just trying to figure out how they're going to put the culvert in and start that process.
So, it looks like, unfortunately, we're going to be out anywhere from four to five weeks on the road.
So, I know he has not what you guys wanted to hear, but it's something that's going to take that long
for them to get that calvered in. Mostly for the concrete to dry is going to take over a week
just for the concrete to dry, once they get it in there. So what the plan is now, whether it happens
or not, they're going to try to do the old highway 88. It's just kind of uphill from there,
but it's mostly going to be just for emergency vehicles for us to get in and out,
right, ambulance if we need it. Traster, we're going to try to work on those issues where we can get
being in, we can get stuff that the town needs. But, unfortunately, for the rest of us, we're going to have to go around.
So, and if you need to get out, we're going to have to go over a monitor for a little while. So, we don't know what the road's going to look like.
We may be at a point that we're going to try to work it to work in least get foot traffic across there.
Maybe we can get if you have two vehicles and one on this side and one on the other side.
And then we're going to try to work that angle, but we don't know what that's going to be until the engineers get done with what they're doing.
So they're going to put a couple of culverts in the river or in the creek there and bury it and make a temporary road back onto the highway.
So if they do that then we're going to be able to we should be able to shuttle people back and forth across at least get to your car and we'll take you up.
not to total rock and then that's kind of the plan right now. But hopefully it works out that way,
but I can't guarantee anything until we get more online with count trends. So that's where we're
at right now. So all our medical setup, she's got his people on this side. So if we do have a medical,
we have the whole plan set in place. So if we do have a medical incident, we're able to get people out
if we need to. The firemen that are working, the deputies are working, they're they're here,
to ready to go. We're all set up. So don't worry about any of that. We'll get you quickly. We'll get
an ambulance here. We'll get you out and we'll get you on your way up that hopefully never happens,
but it's in place. So Chief, you got anything that?
So add into what Sheriff just said that road will be
hopefully available through us by Tuesday. From now, Tuesday, Wednesday, so from now until then,
We will have the Ammon's out of the fourth respond to the closure on the one side.
We will transport you over there and then we'll load you in the ambulance on that side.
We have contacted the helicopter.
Care flight will be available for us for any kind of major incident LZ.
We've been in contact with animal valley fire.
They'll be coming up the back side of the hill to cover some of the auto accidents.
So we do have personnel on both sides and the ability to get personal over here if we do break in kind of search fire or an image of accident or any kind of redeemed medical aid we have equipment ready to go.
Besides that we're back in service the way it was before all but the road.
We do have a public health nurse on this side who is available. If you don't know Becky Thornberg, she's raising her hand. If you would like to reach out to her, I think she's shared her herself a number widely or you can call us at public health department and schedule an appointment with her and she can either meet you somewhere here or at the fire station.
the medical need that could be taking care of that way. Also starting on Monday, we're going to offer
dialaride services to the grocery store at 10 a.m. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I have some
flyers I can pass out. You just need to be at the admin parking lot at 10 a.m. And if you can't get
to the admin parking lot, dialaride will come pick you up. You just need to call our driver, Ron,
and let him know, and I will pass out flyers,
which have his phone number on it.
We're also going to be working on Monday
to figure out how to get services
from the county over on the Woodford side,
clerk's office, library, probation, assessor,
finance, all have some sort of presence
in the Woodford's location, probably by Tuesday.
So.
Okay, is this working?
So my name's Buck McLeod,
And I'm your water operator for the Marklyville water system.
And I want to give you an update.
You guys have probably seen that we're under major water
restrictions right now at this time.
So the water comes from the Mr. Jarvis Preak.
And we treat it and we give it to you folks to drink.
We got a major sediment load in the creek.
It plugged a pipe that brings the water to the plant.
We acted quickly, Chris Hartnett, myself, and contractor Thomas Heen Company.
We got that pipe cleared already and we got water starting to flow to the planet again.
There's a lot of work that has to be done at the plant because of the sediment load that
the plant took initially.
So we're going to be working on that today and I'm hoping that by Monday we'll have everything back to normal. That's our plan.
And I want to thank the people involved in our contractor partners and stuff for being able to respond immediately to this situation and understand the importance of our town having good amount of water available.
We do store water pretty heavy for these moments so that we don't have a situation where we run out of water.
And we do have two wells that we run on. So when you guys see those mandatory restrictions,
because we're on wells, and the wells do not produce as much water as the surface water plant.
So in order for us to continue to provide you water to drink and flush toilets and stuff, we ask you,
and we thank you for doing those water restrictions first.
We saw an instant decline in our water production and that's a great community thing that everybody cares about everybody and you guys are doing a great job.
Okay, so if you have any questions feel free to ask me.
But we're hoping to be back to normal by Monday is our goal.
And if everything goes well, that's what will happen.
And we will continue to update you and keep you informed if that doesn't happen or when it does happen.
So that we can get back to normal life.
Okay, the sewer. I don't know. I don't deal with the sewer. So I don't know.
Any questions for me? Doc,
come on up. Doc, I'm going to go sit down and that's your talk.
So as the former MPUD chair, I'm still quite, you know, concerned about the condition of the plant and from what I understand.
the well which captures all the sewage water has been filled with debris and sand. This is
from Lloyd Vendor and who is the current plant manager. Is Lloyd here?
No, and so he immediately calls summit plumbing and is the contracted plumber that we use for the plant.
And I called Dennis Lampson, who's our Public Health Environmental Consultant, and he also called
Summit Plumbing in the Word was that they were going to try to come over monitor
past today to free that up, but in the meantime, as far as I know, everything is being
flushed or drained is going into this container, which has got five feet of mud and debris
and if anything else in it and it won't be long before it will back up and affect the lowest
houses on the system first. I don't know when that will happen. It's worrisome. So I wish
we need to summit plumbing needs to be, you know, here as soon as possible, where they will
put that, when they pump it out where they will put it, is a question because they can't just
jump it into the creek, that's a violation of Lehan's rules.
So there's gonna have to be some temporary storage area
created to put all that before it can be, we can,
We can operate. So other than just saying, don't put too much down any drain, we'll try and make it last as long as we can before we have an overflow. The other problem is that I'm going to ensure how they can get there because just looking just walking past the heritage park. It looks like it's really deep and mud.
how is the sewage truck, how is the the the summit planning going to get to the pump station?
They have to go along through the through that that roadway which runs right below us here.
I don't know the condition of that.
What's that?
Lloyd, clear to road is your pathway to it.
Well, that's that's heroic. Thank you. That's great. So, but that's that's all I know.
And we'll should know a lot more when they get here.
It was saying to minimize the gel, let it know low.
We will put out a, we will put out a notice and as embarrassing as this is, this is the first time we're hearing of this.
We had Kelli S. fly a drone over the plant yesterday and the settling pond was still intact and we have not heard anything.
from the about the sewage plant from anyone that's operating it. So we'll definitely be on that issue now.
And so now Rita will send out some messaging today about conserve water, so you can conserve the sewage
treatment plant. Okay.
We need people to come up to the microphone.
This is Bill Young from
marketplace village. Can you add to the list of people to contact is to get a hold of the post office
and get operations back because I've got drugs that are in the post office that they will not
come up and get because they think it's unsafe is what they said yesterday. We need to get the post office
open, we need to, or at least get all that stuff taken out of the post office and sent down the gardener bill.
Ron says it's already been done.
Not the boxes, we were on vacation.
We had a hole. All of our mail is sitting on a shelf.
They won't do anything about it.
From what I understand, it's already gone down to gardener bill.
When did that happen?
Well, whenever they did this, they already announced.
No. Okay. Well, why don't you go down to Gardenville and see if it's we already did. And that's what made you hold us. It was unsafe to come here. So that was yesterday afternoon when that happened. Okay.
One.
We will reach out to the post office.
Thank you.
We have been in communication with the post office. I think starting on Thursday.
but I will we will follow up. I don't know if I'll be able to get an answer on the weekend, but hopefully we can have one by Monday on whether they will come back up and open the post office and allow people to get any packages, anything that still happens to be sitting in the post office.
Can't promise but we'll ask.
We need everyone to come up to the, we'll pass it around.
I said I was going to let Caltrans talk before, but I'll take this question and then I'll see if Caltrans is on the in the Zoom meeting.
Just curious about FedEx and UPS deliveries for homes.
Has anybody been contact with them because we get the other things to them as well.
That's important.
We have not been in contact with them.
So
is someone from Caltrans on Zoom?
This is Bob Heifill. He is the Caltrans Public Information Officer and he's going to give us an update from Caltrans.
Good morning, everyone. My name is Bob Heifel. I'm a look information officer with
Taltrans District 10. My counties are Alpine, Amidour, Calvirus and Mariposa. I've been
asked to give an update on the situation with the road. So an emergency contract that we
initiated as a result of the tamaract fire, that's going to continue to find a work on a
permanent solution to install the box culvert that was washed out and we want to do that
as quickly as possible so we can open at least one lane to the traveling public. However,
the bad news is that this could take up to five weeks. Three weeks roughly to pour the culvert
and then another two weeks to fix the road and we should know more early next week on that
We obtained a verbal approval for an additional $1 million to supplement the existing director's order that I mentioned earlier.
So the financing, the funding is not an issue.
We're also starting a new director's order to repair the road from Obery Creek south to Marklyville.
So the project that we were working on when the weather turned bad on Wednesday was to replace the culvert installed debris rack,
and place additional rock slope protection along the fills of Highway 89.
And we just had this weather event.
And it's a very undermined the roadway.
There's about a 20-foot hole where the culvert is.
We were doing pot-holing work, looking for utilities,
and found some voids.
And then when the water came, it just opened up those voids.
And even though that lame looks really pristine and that people could drive on it, our engineers and geotech people have gone out there and determined that it is not safe for vehicles to cross and safety is our biggest priority as it is for everybody for all of us, so that's why, you know, we're not able to use that lame until we get it until we get it short up.
It was mentioned earlier that a temporary road or access road will be available, we just really want to stress 100% that this route is not meant for the traveling public.
It is far too steep, it is rocky, it is dangerous only four wheel drive vehicles can get through there.
There are no guardrails, it's just far too narrow and rocky and dangerous for the general
public to use.
So we can't stress that enough that we want to keep this open for emergency responders
so that they can do their job.
So we have also set up an emergency operation command center that Charlie material or a
manager too for the mountain region is going to lead. We'll be in daily contact with all of our partners,
trading, sharing communication and information that we will learn using turnway and also to push
out to the public to keep you all updated on what the latest of what is happening.
So that's about all I have if there are any questions or if anything else I could do in the
just let me know. If you'd like to ask Bob and questions, please come up to the microphone.
Bob, you said that you're going to be doing this as quickly as possible. I presume that means
you will be working 24-7. Our recommendation is going to be to work seven days a week. I'm not sure
if nighttime work would be safe to continue, but everything we can do we're going to do.
happened to the temporary bridge that you were going to be placing. I had heard that it was too small
but you were ordering another one that the public would be able to go in and out in the access.
Right. Thank you. We did bring that to a great question. We brought a bridge temporary bridge up
from our stockton yard. The opening, the compromised area, let's call it, it had grown. And as you
said the temporary bridge was too short. So that's not a viable option. Unfortunately, the temporary bridge needs to be at least 55 feet long and this bridge was just too short. So we'd have to find another bridge in our inventory and get it up here. Then we would need geotech to conduct a foundation investigation. And that.
then bridge design would need to get involved. So it would treat me, I don't know how long three to five weeks
to get a temporary bridge and that's if everything went smoothly. So rather than add another
three to five weeks to fix this problem, we're just going to get that box covered and install. That's
the temporary, I'm sorry, the permanent solution, get the road fixed. That seems to be the the
a prudent and expeditious way to give us all back to operating normally.
You indicated you're
going to be doing other roadwork. Work where you'd be doing from the washout now and into town.
Yeah, any repairs that need to be made to the roadway, there was quite a bit of debris and mud that
that flowed over the road. So we'll do patch repairs and then we'll assess and see if another
project needs to be done to resurface the roadway, but I don't think that is the case.
I was there yesterday. It looked like the road is in pretty good shape.
I was thinking more in terms of getting water off the road rather than down the road.
There's only one on the river side of the road. As far as the culvert goes here you
Well, hopefully this culvert will do the job.
We also have 30 inlet culverts along the road.
And actually our vector crews
were have been working really hard
to get those inlet culverts open.
They're about 30 of them.
And they go into them with looks like a long tube.
And it actually sucks the material out
while at the same time, blowing high pressure water
to get any debris rocks and mud out of those culverts
to open them up too.
I think the concern I've heard and I have is the actual diversions within town because once that water hit the town
I had no place to go but down the road.
We do have a pick frog but I think there's only one inlet on the creek side of the road there.
We do have a picture of the culvert and the clerk is going to bring it out so you can see it.
Um, I own, is anybody still there?
We're just, he's still there.
We're just showing a picture of the, the problem.
Yes.
So that's a good shot indicating how it looks, but beneath the ground and how, uh,
how
unstable it looks.
He's still on if you want to ask him a question.
I'm sorry.
I'm still here.
Um, I own the property, um, next to the gas station between gas station
post office. And as long as I've lived there, I've had problems with your agency. The water right now
on my house is pretty close, unlivable. My basement with my livelihood, my artwork, my supplies,
or laundry, mud, the water was almost up to the ceiling. The water is coming from the road. It's
not coming from a creek overflow, it's coming from the road and I would like to plead with
your agency to fix this problem.
Absolutely. The calls are where I can get my email address
to that to that person and let's see if we can help her out. Yes, we will give it to her right now.
Great, thank you.
Any other questions for CalTrans?
Hi, um, you said that it would take three to five weeks to get that other replacement bridge.
Culverts fail. Box culverts are known to fail and fill up with sediment. If we have another
major event, that box culvert will fill up. Bridges are a better fix. So I would think that
how trans should be doing both,
and you should still be bringing that other bridge in.
That is the long term fix for that place, not a culvert.
Chair?
Thank you.
But as soon as you get that bypass road for emergency services in, is there any reason that people, pedestrians can't use that as well?
Because there's a lot of kids in Markleville that need to get the school.
There's a lot of people in Markleville that need to get to work in the valley or up at Lake Tahoe,
and also there's people on that side that work in Markleville.
If we can have a place to park on the north side of the problem,
people can walk along that road, stay out of the construction site itself
and get home or get to work.
Is there any way that can be done?
We're looking into that supervisor Griffiths.
And thank you for following that suggestion.
We just have to be very mindful that it is.
As you said, an active construction so we need to make sure people can get through
safely before we've allowed them to do that, but we're definitely looking at every conceivable way
to mitigate the impact that this is going to have on the public. Do you have any kind of a timeline
for getting that bypass road in? You're usable for emergency vehicles. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday.
Okay, thank you. Welcome, sir. Thank you. My comment was to echo supervisor Griffith's comment
That a real high priority should be that pedestrian accessive possible and parking is close to the construction site as is safe from at the north end, because we can get cars and share rides and so on and really get something done, as opposed to five weeks and also I hope you realize that five weeks is really going to kill the town, you know, in terms of the restaurants and stores and all that.
So there's, there's a real emergency here in that sense already suffered so much and this is just another hit.
And finally, this sewer issue does need priority use.
We need to get on top of that because that also will cut us back in terms of our ability to stay here.
Thank you.
Any other questions for Calterans?
Hi, I'm Mary Young, I live in Markly Village, and I guess my question is that the point of replacing this culvert was you were concerned about debris flow and higher flows drainage flows off the hill.
So when you put into plan the construction of this culvert did don't want to think that that might happen during construction and shouldn't there have been some kind of plan for emergency
the rerouting of that kind of drainage.
And I'm just, I don't like the blame
when we're trying to solve the temporary problem.
But I think there was a real failure of planning there.
Do we know it?
Thank you.
From day one, we have been the sheriff's department,
fire department, and I have been talking about the economic impact
to the businesses.
We've explained to them that between COVID and the Tamarack Fire
and now this it's three straight years of businesses not being able to have as much business during
the summer or if any because of these emergencies. So that has been one of our main messages
since this incident happened on Wednesday.
So this probably isn't a calmer answer issue, but
Somebody might want to address it. Google Maps shows the road open. And that's a big problem.
Deferred to the Sheriff's Department on that, but I'm not sure how cooperative Google Maps is going to be if you
I'll let the Sheriff respond.
Yeah, I'm not sure if you will work with Californians and we've got them up on the reader boards and we've got our
are units out, seeing the roads closed, but we are having problems with the general public
community in the county. So hopefully we've solved that and we're looking to the Google
team and get that showing closed.
And there is another tool for motorists to use. It's the quick map. The CalTrans has it's you
can download it on your iPhone or your Android device. It's quick map one word.
or you can access it on your laptop, and I can put the address in the chat, but it's quickmap.dot.ca.gov.
And that is up to date information showing road closures, CMS messages, all kinds of information on there.
So it's a very useful tool. And again, it's the quickmap that CalTrans provides.
All right, Louis Sames, the Markly Dalman, the PUD board, before we go, I wonder if a couple
folks here could huddle up and before we depart, summarize how the county is going to
ordinate with call trans or whoever is needed to address the sewer problem and give us right now a sense of who's going to talk to who and when will we have an announcement of what the next steps are.
that we will hear at the latest before noon on Monday.
I don't think we should leave this room without that information.
Being discussed as to how you're going to huddle up, gather your resources,
and communicate with us by noon Monday what you are doing.
It can't be someone else's doing it, it can't be Bob Highfield, it has to be the folks in this room who have the ability to communicate with one another and get us a message.
Bob Highfield may be able to use the bridge construction on at Heritage Park equipment to help if that road has a problem with access, but it's absolutely impossible for anyone to say that there's no access to that problem.
we can get access to that will that needs to be pumped.
Summit has to have a clear road the moment they arrive.
Well, they said you can get it.
They didn't see you can drive it.
Second thing need to help with finding it.
Please use a microphone.
That access is one thing, but the other thing pointed out is the manpower and equipment
to build a temporary dump for the sewage that gets pumped out.
That seems to be the big challenge right now.
I have several questions.
I mean, it's Carly Nobrega.
And I'm a resident of Mark Louveau.
Number one, the Tamaraifier was mismanaged poorly.
We all know that from the Forest Service.
Is there any reports happening on a national level?
Excuse me.
Number two, if there's funding set aside for CalTrans,
where is the funding to reimburse us?
Because we are now in an inflationary gas period.
And we're having to drive I have a four hour commute. I'm a first responder. I cannot do that. I have another person in the room. First responder cannot do that. We have to have access to that road.
Hold on. Many of many of the people in the room may face unemployment streams. They may face financial streams. They may be on like limited budgets. What are the resources in town that they can go to to get food to get the lady that said that she needed all of her stuff was stored and it's flooded. What are we doing?
with that and how are we like the gentleman I'm going to echo that how are we going to get
communication on where we we are at the process if we open that road for our folks and we
are able to walk through it I think all of us are going to do that instead of driving for miles
or four hours. How are we going to get that information to us are you going to text us can we start
a texting a circle can we do something on the website for the county just so we can stay a
of what's happening. I'm very concerned about the school children. Some of them are very
reliance on lunches that they get at school and maybe at home they aren't going to be, you
know, given the same nutrition. So there's a lot of things to consider not just our frustration
in upset because of what happened in the last three years, but it's important to start looking
into the granular level and making sure that our health of our citizens are taking care of. Thank you
for your time.
Hi, I'm Brenda and I'm a Markly Go resident. I'm sure I'm only
one of many people with medical conditions in our area, I was very concerned about going to the post office
for prescriptions. I rely on social or pharmacy every week for my prescriptions and we can't
possibly drive every single time I or anybody in this in Marklyville has a need. I'm concerned about
the post office and response with prescriptions.
Hi, I'm Jeff, a Mark B. Bill resident.
I want to find out when the public can have access to that bridge.
If it's possible for us to have motorcycles
to ride across other than our lighter vehicles obviously,
I've got saddle bags on mine.
I could make runs for people or get essential items
and sets open with that be possible.
I don't believe so, no, we're going to close it to all vehicles, all means of transportation.
At least that's my understanding.
It's just not safe.
That lane is undermined to where if something terrible happened,
and we have another event, we can't, we can't, that's just not safe.
It's just not safe.
Bob, I think I think he was talking about the bypass road and I thought I'm so sorry.
Yeah, when they get the bridge in.
Yeah, I'm so sorry.
You might that.
Yeah, we'll.
We'll work on that.
Nothing.
And now it's the way for Bob and his crew to get that that covert in.
Get that road established and find out how stable it's going to be and we'll work from there.
So that's what we're hoping to do is be able to get people
across there and to get them to and for people that will make
a single trip and park a car on like on the turtler arc parking
side and hopefully with our bands we have we can start
shuttling people back from this side to that side is kind of what
I'm working on now with my guys in the sheriff's office and
part of parliament is we're going to try to shuttle people if
cow transfer will allow us to do that.
that's the biggest thing right now is is we need that open
and see how stable that road's going to be.
And if we can get through there, we will push those issues
with Cal Trends to ask them to get people back and forth.
Thank you.
Last question, too, but the fuel being so pricey, especially in town,
is there going to be fuel available?
Somebody have a plan for keeping our local station filled up?
Because we're going to need it to get wherever we're going to go.
Correct, and we are currently working on that now is trying to get the fuel truck to come over monitor. He travels back and forth anyways from Sacramento. He goes over Monitoring to Mono County to do those gas stations there, so
Bakers working on that now to try to make sure he is takes the cool, so we wish we have fuel on this, because we are actually using it to. The Sheriff's Office is using it to just to keep our vehicles running in the far department, so we need to get to make sure that it has fuel in it.
Would there be any relief plan that lower the price to help there in this emergency?
I doubt that, but at least I'll be feeling there.
I would like to respond quickly to the sewer concern.
As I said, this was the first we heard of it.
We did not know this yesterday or we would have come in here with a plan already.
Since we've been in this meeting, a deputy went out and looked and he does think that our road crew can cut a path
to get through there and Todd Ellis was just taken out with a deputy to come back and confirm that.
So that is a high priority. Hi, I'm Rachel. I am cut through speaking from the businesses
and not to kind of speak for us all, but you know what we've gone through in the past few years covered
in the fire. The extreme loss of revenue and employee retention, I think has been our biggest
battle. At this point, what kind of state of emergency has been declared? I know last year we went
with the FEMA Natural Disaster. They sent out the economic impact disaster loans and none of us
qualified for it because we were two new companies. Our insurance does not cover loss of revenue on
foot. There is literally no access to funding, nothing to to help sustain us. And I know that
Phil has been around a little longer in the in the store, but let us out west and as we
we're losing hope because there is no other program and then on I guess more positive note
back from the chamber is trying to kind of maybe source some being for the community kind of like
she did for Tameric fire gunmeers something even though this funds only stretched.
A couple days, but she's looking at like, meal programs for locals and other things. So we have that, but I just want to know what, what FEMA disaster, what, what can we get, basically, to declare that this is emergency. Again, a huge economic plan.
we did declare a disaster on Thursday and those same programs are available and I'm really sorry to hear
that you well didn't that new businesses didn't qualify during that time. I am going to bring
a recommendation to the Board of Supervisors. We're having an emergency meeting on Wednesday at 9 a.m.
to ratify the declaration and at that time I am going to bring a recommendation to the Board of
providers to allocate some funding for businesses and individuals. I think it would be really useful
for me to know the numbers before I bring a recommendation forward. If you somebody wants to get
with Becky and have Becky relate that information and my recommendation is going to be that
any money that we award go to the chamber and have the chamber distribute it like they did during
and tamaract fire.
And I think I would really, we would appreciate if we did have like a coordinator for this
that can communicate maybe with the businesses.
I know JT has been kind of really awesome with that kind of stuff, but just so that we have,
you know, so we're all in communication with each other.
Yep, JTM Becky will be your, your point in contact.
Bob, there's something that counter ants could do to help with that.
If some of your crews could stay in Mark Leeville, eat at the restaurants, that would really
help. We won't cure everything that already helps some of the businesses.
Thank you, Supervisor.
When I will say these with water rescue team that you saw in town was originally staying somewhere else.
And we asked them to come stay in Marklyville and eat at the cutthroat. So hopefully that helped a little bit.
Yes, any contractors please stay in town. Becky Dormberg, not Becky of the chamber,
which is Becky de Forest. I also would back up Rachel and the other business owners in the community
with regards to this funding shouldn't just come from Alpine County, the state and the federal
government and the Forest Service are responsible for this mess and whatever we can encourage
them to help us because we have not gotten the help from those levels. They're cutting trees. They're
doing minimal things but not financial aid, not any of the relief that we should have gotten
after. Not for me personally, but for the business that are lost money. And Mr. High Tower,
what I started to come up here for was, if you could please clarify, I'm not clear whether
we're doing just a box culvert or we're doing a box culvert in a temporary bridge and we're doing
another, another road around. I'd like to know what exactly is planned. Is it one of those things
to those things or all three of those things? And when can we get some relief to be able to go
back and forth get supplies in for a rest of it so they can stay in business. Thank you.
Thank you for the question. So we're installing the box cover. The temporary bridge was just that temporary bridge to allow emergency responders at least to access the road that bridge was too short. So we're continuing with the plan to build the box cover.
That would be the most expeditious way to get traffic at least one lane open and then both lanes and then the access road we brought up would be for emergency responders to get around the construction zone.
Since we keep talking about box culvert, is it going to be resized? Is it size to handle? Is it the same size as what was there?
It's larger than the one that is there. It's a 10 foot box 5% larger.
It is.
I've actually seen these times as large.
I've actually seen the existing one.
They should have never been put in. It is tiny.
The box color will be significantly larger.
Yeah, it'll be harder, at least an order of magnitude, right?
For foot to ten foot.
But headmaster Hartnut.
Thank you Mr. Chairman Chris Hartnut.
We've been addressing the issues about not being able to get out of
Marklyville to the north.
Has CalTrans put into effect road maintenance from highway 89 across
Monitor Pass for both districts to maintain the road better than it has been in the past.
beings, this is now the only thoroughfare to get across from Markleville to the other side,
and how much was the road compromised by the recent rains, and those compromised places,
are they being repaired to allow us to continue to use the road without road closure,
so that you can come back in and fix the road. The question really is, what's the maintenance
schedule, the cow trans is put in place to maintain both sides of the road that's more enhanced than you've used before
go ahead buck.
Buck McLeod and I'm actually resident of Woodford's, but I do work here in Mark Leeville and this is going to put a
burden on me and luckily I have an extra vehicle to park on the other side here so that I can continue to provide water for the community.
I've been around here a lot of years.
I've seen a lot of cow trans projects along Highway 50
that have done an awful lot more work
and an awful lot shorter time based on the need of South Lake Tahoe
for that tourism.
And I don't feel that we're being a priority here
because I think this can be done a lot more expeditiously
and a lot more less impact to us local residents.
I think that we're boxed into a corner, and we're taking what we can get, and we're trying to do the best with what we can, but I do not feel that
Cal Trend is really taking the impact to us personally, seriously. And I feel that you need Mr. Is it high-foil?
Yes, sir. You need to understand the burden put on the residents by this, and you need to look a little bit more into maybe a
larger contractor or multiple contractors here.
And you need to get a temporary road to go.
Now, for our emergency responders,
because our forest service fire station
is on that side of the road.
Our main Eastern Alpine stations are on the other side of the road.
We are still in fire season.
And to think that if we start a wild land fire
and it's got to come from analog valley to help us,
We're going to burn down Mark Leeville playing in simple.
So I think that you need to look at, you need to look a little deeper into what the
coffers of cow trans can do for this and what you can do for us for access
because I don't think the answers that I've heard today are acceptable.
Thank you, sir.
Hi, I'm Sarah Clements, another resident of the monthly village.
I'm going to switch gears a little bit as a parent and talk about the impacts
this has on starting school in less than two weeks.
I'm hopeful that this access road
will be able to provide the children on this side,
the ability to actually get to school
because obviously taking an hour and a half hour
40 minute commute one way just to get to campus isn't an option.
So I just want to make sure that that's kind of on everybody's agenda
to address and make sure it is communicated to us as parents
because my kids were enrolled in the summer program
and we literally got absolutely zero communication
about anything and what their options are.
I mean at this point, we just pulled the kids
from the program and we're all hanging out here,
hopeful that once school starts,
they will be able to go to school.
We expressed this to Cal Trans yesterday.
We met with Bob and Charlie, the person who's
and be managing this from the Cal Transide.
And we emphasized the need that school was starting in 12 days.
I did tell the new superintendent this yesterday.
I don't know if he's on, and he'd like to make up his on.
So he will bring him up to make a statement.
I made him a mistake of shooting in the front.
If I set my back, I wouldn't be up here with my camera.
Hold on a second.
The superintendent's going to speak.
He's on zoom.
Yeah.
Hello.
We can hear.
Oh, good.
I wasn't sure this was working.
I'm sitting in my car near my old house trying to get all packed up.
Yes, we are fully aware of the closures.
And, of course, I live out there, too, in the markedly village.
And the, so we are looking at options using suburbans to transport an hour and 15 minutes.
40 minutes will not be acceptable. We need those roads open. We need alternatives, but the school districts
as a school district will communicate with all the families as, as soon as we get it to
got a little more information about where we are. We're hoping that this Tuesday road,
temporary walking paths possibly would solve that problem and we are going to be prepared.
Even if I'm thriving, I'm suburban and it will happen. We will get the kids to school. It will be
This will also count for our high schoolers too.
We are not going to discount or forget about our high schoolers.
Okay.
I was just going to point out that the governor's emergency preparedness, whatever vehicle
is at the fire station.
I wonder if they're here.
Anyone from the governor's office?
The governor's office of emergency services did send a 16 team over a paramedics.
They are actually a swift water rescue team and they have, oh, I'm sorry.
They left this morning.
I thought they were here through this evening, but they were here.
That is probably the command vehicle that you saw.
There is no representative here today.
We do have our emergency operations center is in contact with
CaloES on a daily basis.
And if you all want to talk with someone from CaloES,
we can ask them to be here and open up ask them to be available
to respond to questions from residents.
It's just not to be really helpful if they were here to listen.
What will you?
It's the California Office of Emergency Services that is directly under the governor.
It by chance is Lindsay on the call.
They were given the Zoom information to.
We've posed a lot of questions.
Speaking of the microphone, please.
Yeah, thanks.
We've posed a lot of questions to you, but we're not getting a lot of response back.
We're giving you so much information, we're probably overwhelming.
But can we go back to like maybe doing a bullet point of whoever's taking notes today and then get a response and what we're going to do to handle that that'd be helpful.
Yes.
Just to follow in on that and what Bucks said it seems to me that building a bridge.
I might be wrong.
We're building a bridge.
We'll take less time than fixing the culvert and doing all the things that you want to do.
You know, why not a bridge?
Marie Bravo, Mark Leeville resident for the past 40 years, I am in a dire emergency, my house is full of mud, my property is full of mud, I can't even hire anybody to come in because the road is closed, I have no phone, I have no hot water, and I'm the emergency, you have an emergency crew, I'm an emergency.
emergency. I need help.
Thank you.
Yes, I do. And I would like to say something to Mr. David. Mr. Daley,
when I moved here, I was about your age. I would never have dreamed of treating the elder community.
You have treated me. You need to learn that this is the me this is a meeting about
I'm sorry, sit down, listen, the reason I wanted the reason that I wanted to say this publicly is so everybody hears it straight.
That's all a place to talk about that.
OK.
Dan.
Dan Chang, I own the Marklyville General Store.
And I just would like to go back to thinking about how
we ended up in this place.
Right now, as business owner, it's a death of a thousand cuts.
It started with our fish money
and losing that.
So...
We don't have fishermen coming to town. And then we have a fire. And we now have less camping. We have less people coming to town and staying here. And now we have this mud issue.
And so we are struggling.
Before we had the displayed, my business was down 50%.
Now, in the last couple of days, I have been open
and I am down, I can't even tell you how much at this point.
It's bad.
And we are going to lose our town if we don't do something.
And when I say do something, that's up to you guys too.
You have got to support the town and the businesses which you do not do and that's strong words for me
But I don't see Terry, you're about the only supervisor that comes in and patronizes the general store. Thank you so much
I hear that it's too expensive. Well, I charge $2.29 for a head of lettuce. It's a dollar 28 gun at Walmart now that you have to drive that 30 miles is it worth that dollar?
Ask yourselves that question and start supporting your businesses.
It's time. It's time to start looking at your downtown as an asset.
We produce income. We pay property taxes. We pay sales tax.
We put money into the coffers of this county. It's time that we got something back from that.
So I'm asking you to please, please think about what it is it's going on in this community
and how you can make it better for us and it's not just this mud slide that is a problem.
There's a lot more to it. Thank you.
Through it sir. I'm Dawn. I'm only here some weekends,
but I'm here this weekend and I want to help is there a way we can get a list of things that volunteers
can do that are saved for helpful. For instance, I could drive down to over monitor twice a day to
while Monday and get groceries or supplies, something.
So, please let me know.
If anybody who's willing to do some volunteer work wants
to share their information with read a level
or librarian public information officer,
we'll start a list.
And if you're okay with it, we can post it on the county website
and on our Facebook page so that people can reach out
to volunteers and ask for assistance.
Maybe tell Rita what you're available to do
and then we can start a list of who you can call.
Sort of quick question.
When is construction going to start?
Because no one's over there, Ray.
So if no one's over there, there's no construction zone.
Why can't we park our cars at the North End
and just walk down the road?
They're working above it, but that actual fight that's bad.
So they're cleaning culverts, pulling ditches,
things like that trying to make it safe again.
So my understanding, they were supposed to start today,
but it's delayed till next week.
So there's, that was the only,
that's correct.
They're getting the box culverts.
They're getting all our equipment together
to come down and start that repair there.
So they're cleaning all the other culverts above it.
So the crews that they have now,
that's what they're doing now.
So you write, there's nothing at this end.
was told that they were going to start today, but they're not. So as far as parking down there,
that's something that we are going to talk about, there's Ken, we get people to walk across
or if they have somebody on the other side that can come pick you up, then how do we get you over there
and so you can get out, get a ride, get to the store, get to wherever you need to be. So that's kind
of where we're working on now. I'm sure I want to be willing to walk even just to have my own
on the road, you know, you should park your car up north,
you walk up and down, we'll get it exercise, that's cool.
But if construction zones can have hundreds of cars
driving through every day, I can't, the 100 people in this room
walk once a day.
And that's the problem there.
There's really no word of park.
We have to park in the lane.
And so that's something that we have to look at.
There's the ditches right there.
There's actually nowhere to park there.
So if we do it, we'll have to, you know,
try to figure out some way to get you
way over to one side and block it up so nobody causes an action with any of the vehicle's movie.
Just to reinforce what Buck had said, this is why we don't feel that we are being
treated adequately by call trams. If there's nobody working down there, I understand the
over its situation. But if they had more teams, they could be preparing for the box
cold. There's a lot they could be done that could be done. That's not being done. And that's
why a perfect example of how we're not being served by Californians.
Bob, did you ask that question or can you answer it for them? I'm assuming that your cruise
preparing to come up and start construction next week.
But they're kind of asking why they're not here now.
Yeah, why they're not there today.
I don't know.
I'll try to find out.
But is my understanding that they're going to begin working on that access road Monday and Tuesday
and hopefully having that open on Wednesday as far as the box culver goes.
I'll check and see when I'm sketching to begin the apologize.
I don't have a concrete answer for you right now.
And Boba, is that for sure that they are going to come in and start that access
code?
Um, Tuesday, Wednesday, is it going to be open Wednesday or are they going to start
construction on Wednesday?
To my understanding, they're now, they started on that yesterday and the hope is that it will
be available for emergency responders again, we're not encouraging the public to use it
on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Yeah, I'm not sure that's going to happen now and it's quite a test that's going to be
there. So, I was out there looking at it as you were yesterday. So, but that's going to take
a quite a bit of, you know, engineering to get that COVID in there and a lot of dirt to
fill that ditch in. So, that's what we were wondering, are you going to start on Tuesday,
my understanding what we're getting at this end, rumors at this end that it was going to be done
by Wednesday, that we can start using that road. Yeah. That's the hope and we'll be in communication
with you on the process or the progress of that.
Go.
We do have representatives on Zoom from Assemblyman,
Bigelow, and Senator Dolly's office.
Sorry to put you on the spot, but you've heard a lot of comments from your constituents.
And I wondered, Dana, Bruce, if either one of you have any comments you'd like to make?
Very quickly, this word of hope.
Caltrans needs to have a better plan than hoping to have something done, it's some future date.
Hope is an unacceptable term and the response has been unacceptable.
Okay, I'd like to call on our state representatives because I think that they are fully aware of this.
We've been in contact with them. We've asked for assistance and there's a representative from both offices on Zoom.
and I'd like to give them a chance to speak.
Can you hear me?
This is Bruce Ross, Mr. Senator Dallis office.
My, okay, I think I'm not.
Yes, you know, obviously it's a hearing all the difficulty
to situation really painful with the schools and the post office
and on and on, taking detail notes
gonna follow up with OES immediately after this
so that they can really marshal the resources
to speed things up and yeah 100% finding
a way to allow more greater access through this emergency
road or pedestrian, you know, shuddling, got to make it happen. So we're going to be here with
and work with OES, and see what we can make
up.
Thank you, Bruce Dana.
Welcome, hear me.
Oh, my God, Dana.
Yeah, this is Dana Jorgensen with Assemblyman Bigelow.
I've been in contact with the Board of Supervisors
early yesterday morning.
And I did send an email out to Cal OES
and to Mr. Highfield.
And thank you, Bob, for representing Cal Trans today.
I will continue to take any requests from the county and get to the appropriate state agency for feedback, response, requests, more people, whatever it would be.
I did put a chat on there.
There is a state agency that you can file claims,
if you think of your business.
It's usually business,
but I might be able to be expanded from that.
If there are losses,
I will get that contact information to the county.
I am in Sutter Creek, my number is 209-267-0500. You have some particular concerns.
I am a one-man band, so if you get a message, leave a message, and I will respond to you.
I have had this job for a very long time, and I will be here for a while at least,
and if you have concerns, I have always tried to my best to respond to them.
On the stroke quickly, I have a minute here, with the pulseful service situation, that is kind of a quasi-federal agency.
You might want to loop in Congressman McClentock's office on that situation.
My father-in-law will grow a contract route in Mendocino County.
I'm not sure why that mail couldn't be put in the truck and brought to maybe woodbirds or something.
Or maybe even health and human services.
I don't know if that's appropriate.
I'm just throwing those out as ideas.
I know a lot of people depend on their, especially their prescriptions these days.
I think of that quick question that information about that you put in the chat, is that for a business to file a claim against the state?
Yes, so I haven't had to deal with that for quite some time. I'm going for memory, but I'll give you an example.
There was a bypass in the city of Lincoln, it went on for quite some time, businesses were
able to take their records, turn them in from the year before the incident happened and then
they could turn in their current records and the state will evaluate that and there's no guarantees
But, you know, if there's a pretty definitive need that yes, obviously you're off 30% or 50% and it is because people can't access you, now that's from that instance with the bypass.
Because that was a very extensive reconstruction.
They will take a look at that.
And I don't want to say that every claim, I don't, you know, it's my understanding that
pretty straightforward claim, there's a pretty decent chance of a payment. I'm certainly not
going to say that, hey, you're going to get 100% of what you're asking. I just, you can't do that.
And I wouldn't want to lead anybody astray on that. But I'll get that contact information to the
County, I don't have it off the top of my head.
Okay, thank you, Dana, you can send it to me,
and I will ask our economic development director,
J.T. Shabalye, to take a look at it,
and then to have a meeting with the businesses
and, you know, explain the process to you,
and see if we can assist you with that.
Okay, sounds good.
Thank you, Dana.
If you don't like to drive, you have no business having my job and I love coming to Mark Leeville and Alpine County and I do know I was up there for the Sheriff's Retirement last month and I do understand that you've had a lot of hits.
I understand that.
We'll see what we can do.
My name's Thomas Strattner. I kind of a local business on our service market bill and South Lake area.
One of the things that people have been talking about is the communication of all this stuff that we're talking about right now.
Is there a website? Is there an email that we could all sign up like a newsletter thing? Is there something that we could, you know, it could all be posted to an area, or we could all be on an email thread together as the town?
It could all just show up to us in our in our inbox or is there a mark-level web?
We can go and see all the answers to the questions that we've had.
So what we have in place besides Facebook is the county website.
We have emergency alerts that we post all this information to.
We have news flash where we're supposed to.
I like your idea of creating an email list.
We could do that as well.
I can post information on the website if you want to join that email list.
It could be like a link to add our email and then we could get, I mean, is that I don't know if it's possible.
Oh, yeah, you can subscribe to the alerts right now on the comments.
It's a Elpine County CA dot gov.
And then the other thing obviously I work in South Lake every day and I can't.
My work van gets 10 miles to the gallon and you know, going around for four hours a day isn't really feasible.
So we're looking at five weeks now.
You know, we're all talking about like a shuttle service or something.
And I see people have golf carts that could be shuttling across the bridge or something.
I don't know if there's something that sounds like one of the best ideas.
You know, four hour drive and my big van is not really feasible.
Not working for six weeks is not feasible.
Just whatever we can do to get across the bridge would be great.
Thank you.
One thing I wanted to know about the communication to you is that there was no reverse 911 cold during the flood.
And I just want to kind of point that out that that it was kind of like this
dire situation, especially for people like Marie that got trapped in her house
that there was kind of nothing done to alert people
that there was this huge flood coming.
At the same time, we're at fire.
No reverse line one.
Yeah, there have been problems with the reverse 911
and another system that was supposed to be put in.
They're not working as well as they should be.
I definitely urge people to go to the alert web page
on the county website.
There you can sign up for email alerts, RSS feeds, RSS feeds, and text message alerts.
Those are working well.
Can you use the microphone, please?
I just wanted to relay a message from Teddy at the post office.
Hi, Joey.
The reason I'm not there besides the main route is closed, even the monitor passes open, as
I have strict orders from my boss and headquarters, which are no employees may enter markedly
post office until it is cleared by safety. So just information.
My statement was, there was no reverse 911. Shouldn't we be prepared instead of chasing our tail?
Shouldn't we try this stuff once a month? Whatever it might be, case of emergency, so people know in advance.
You're absolutely right, I mean, trying to convince people to do that for some time.
Maybe this will help push people to get it done.
Hopefully, thank you.
Is there any way that we can start a community task force with stakeholders?
I'm a stakeholder in the community because of being in the medical field.
I know that we have business owners.
I feel like if we had a voice and a committee that could meet with you,
and we can get gathered and help and try to bring together something because the, I don't
feel like there's advocacy here right now and I also have a low confidence, no offense.
I'm sure you guys have a lot of your play this way. So it would be really great to be involved.
So if somebody could steer had that, I'd be happy to be one of those members. Thank you.
I'm sorry to have to come back up, but I'm going to ask my question rather than a statement.
What do I do or the people who have weekly prescriptions possibly like me in South Shore?
What do we do?
I'm sure I'm not the only one in this community with the serious medical condition.
So we can offer dialeride to come to Markleville and pick people up.
It will be have to be overmonitor to go to South Lake Tahoe once a week.
We have set up to go down to Gardnerville, but we can take one of those days and take people to South Lake Tahoe instead.
There must be some way to discuss.
Can you come up and use the microphone please?
So my last statement to that.
There must be a way for us to get together to discuss this and come up with something other than that.
long commute where there's some kind of pull, we can get together for not just myself but other people.
Nicole, I think we need to identify the people that have prescriptions weekly prescriptions.
If you can let us know that you need to get somewhere to your prescriptions.
We're at the Sheriff's Office, you know, is coming get you once a road's open and drive you across that portion.
But the problem is on the other side is how you're going to get to South Lake.
That's our problem. We can't take everybody to those locations and take a patrol car out of the county to take you to get you prescription.
that if it's a dire need or if you're last pills, we will do that. But we need to know in advance
if anybody that's got those dire needs that have weekly prescriptions coming in a mail or
have to see a pharmacist, then we can work on maybe getting you across and then getting you into
dialeride on the mark on the woodford side and then you can take that up if you have nobody to pick you up.
Yeah. And until we hear from Cal Trans that they're going to allow foot traffic across this road, you know, we're our plans are all about going over monitor pass, but as soon as we know that that foot traffic is going to be allowed.
We'll have dial a ride at the other side and I think our nurses.
Becky Doremberg, Mark Lill resident and public health nurse throughout my county. If you have medications that you need,
if you have medical needs, if you may need oxygen, you can call me and I will try to make arrangements to make a trip.
Up to the lake or down to Barnabelle or to the post office to get those things, if you can't get there on your own.
We'll try to work something out with support from HHS and get you guys taken care of on that.
My work cell phone number is five, three, zero, seven, two, one, five, seven, three, six and it'll be posted as well, five, three, zero, seven, two, one, five, seven, three, six.
I was
going to ask you if you want, let's take his question and then we'll do all the chat questions.
Jeff Hernandez is going to want to address three major utilities. We all depend on every day, which is our power. We're going to power spike today that seems to be stable.
One of the things I've been looked at is an impact on the storm.
Our internet connection was frontier seems to be stable, but we had some issues that haven't come out last week to fix it. It seems to be fixed and seems to be stable.
but were there any impacts for power internet
and then the rise in power up on the hill?
Is that also has anything been affected
or an assessed to know if we're going to be dependent on those things?
The power is still on for the cell site.
So it is up in running liberty.
I get talk of my undershare of Chris Hartunian.
And that would liberty get a day.
They came out, ran the lines, everything's fine.
Nothing popped.
So we did have a little small spike, same thing out on the Mesa, so it seemed to be kind
of in the whole system when the rain came, when the weather came in.
So I lost power temporarily on the Mesa.
So it seems to be everything to be stable, Chris, you got anything else to add to that?
As the sheriff said, the power system was speaking with Liberty, they came out on the side
and looked, especially at the side where the road is being washed out.
And everything seems to be intact, and I think the power spikes, which is not speaking on behalf of them, the power spikes you give experience was more to students of the severity of the thunderstorms we had throughout the scenarios.
Then it was the mud flow itself, mud flow didn't seem to affect any of the power, new power system that's in place.
I
have some questions on the chat.
Is it possible to get a permanent secondary road
to get out when 89 is closed?
So that's the issue we have in that canyon.
One side is steep. The other side is the ditch.
You know, so when the water comes down, so
we do have that road to go up to the cell site
and I was talking with the board today about
we have any property that we can maybe link to, but it's just too far away. So it's run along
a top of the ridge line and then back into Markleville, but that doesn't look like it's feasible.
So it'd be something that we'd have to work with the state with is cutting a road higher,
but I don't see that happening. I think it's hopefully as I'll put in a big enough
culvert that we won't have this problem again, but there's no way to get out of that canyon that way.
What about getting C.C. Myers to supplement cow trans and get this work done sooner?
Oh, the California conservation crew. Okay.
Terry.
That California conservation crew was made into a cow fire hand crew.
And they are now on the McKinney fire.
So they're not available. If they do come available, we can talk to them, but they're made into a hand crew.
The Alpine Economic Development Commission put out a statement on Facebook urging the public to come to Mark Leeville and spend money.
I really appreciate that.
But what people don't understand is right now we cannot get any supplies except for going around to monitor.
Now I've been coming over every day and I've put it out to people if you need anything. I'll stop and I'll get it for you and they can pick it up the store and I've been doing that.
So that can continue to happen, so if you guys need something and you don't want to drive for that head of lettuce and come in and I'll take care of you.
But not being able to get those supplies, I think that's something that maybe as business owners are going to have to get together and decide how we can deal with that.
It's been really trying in the last, well, this last year,
I'm like, my seven up, I have not been able to get them.
They were supposed to come yesterday and guess what?
Can't come, you know, so it's been pretty difficult
to get supplies to begin with.
And now it's just getting that much worse.
But we need the business, but we don't need the business all at the same time.
And I wish there was an easy answer to that that we could say,
gosh, we'll have an answer to getting people here in the next week or two.
But it's not now, you know, it's just, I mean, I don't want to speak for the restaurants,
but I know we went to dinner last night at Sandease and she was running out of things.
So that's going to happen and I don't know how to get past that at this point in time.
But again, I think that's the business that's just need to get together and say, how can we make this work? You know, I have a big truck will just take that over.
Yeah, I'm thinking about that. I know you get the big trucks that come down. I'll see when I can be able to get the big trucks across that thing. What about doing a smaller box truck? Would your suppliers do that? Or is that something that we can do?
I think so. Yeah, they won't. And most most suppliers anymore don't do will calls. So I've been working with some of my suppliers to see if I can do a will call and just go pick up my stuff.
I go to Sacramento to pick up things. I mean, that's just what I do. And so I can let, you know, people know when I'm going to do things like that that I can pick stuff up.
But yeah, it's having a business in Nalpine County is not an easy task.
It's very difficult, it's hard to get suppliers to come here.
You think we're at the end of the earth and we're only six miles off a highway 88.
You know, it's really not that big of a deal.
But to them, you would think that it's just, you know, no way.
Can we do that?
I go down to Sacramento to pick up from Tony's because they say they don't have any more room
their truck. So it's like we we have to do above and beyond what a normal business would do
and we pay a lot more than what a normal business would pay. So people want Walmart prices,
but I don't have Walmart's buying power. So it's a huge struggle to have a business in
line county. But we're all pretty dedicated to it. So, you know, we just ask that you guys support us as much as possible. Thanks. Well, I think, again, I think I get to get together with the business owners, I think we get this rode in and it's pretty much stable. We have a few vehicles that are lighter if maybe we can meet the truck.
We could probably get volunteers to do that instead of you driving all the way around. We'll try to get that done, at least resupply the town.
We'll sit down and discuss that with the business owners and see what we can come up with.
Do you have more?
The trucks loaded with timber have been running on our roads for a year.
The weight is adding to where to where of our roads. Who has benefiting from the sale of that
timber, or are they contributing to the expenses of road repairs?
On some help now, I'm pretty that's not on the agenda.
Okay.
Brianna from live violence free.
She has money to buy groceries for those in need and can go over monitor if needed.
Yeah, and we do intend to coordinate with live violence free to bring some food over here.
I just don't know when so I didn't want to announce it that we will coordinate with them.
If there's another fire evacuation, we'll be able to get out.
Depending on how they complete that road,
if we have to come down any day,
we'll get them out.
The way we're looking now,
though, is monitor and apply way for it.
It depends on how fast you think it's that road done,
and what kind of a curb you can get over it.
Install temporary culverts upstream
and cover with gravel. Standard temporary culverts.
We need a permanent bridge.
ATVs on the logging roads, those are both questions.
So as far as the logging roads, because of course we get our UTVs on there without a problem, but they only go up and back out. So there's no access back to 89.
So that was what I was talking about earlier, is trying to get a road back to 89, which is impossible to do as far as cost-wise.
Can we mandate that the state reinforced that temporary bypass road such that it can be used for residents and service providers to access markedly though?
It can be closed for temporary needs, if other weather blows in, but we could prefer that short term closure to the long term monitor solution being proposed.
I believe that it is just a temporary thing. I don't know if they will.
You know, sitting in a couple co-overs and there's going to add to the problem that we have debris come down through there.
It's going to back up there and it's going to come over to top of that and watch that out and end up in the same situation we are now as my guess.
So right now it's just strictly a temporary thing so we can get stuff into town.
And I don't think there's any way around it of making a permanent.
So unless they do not a big balls call over there, but we'll see what they have to say in the future. Well, yeah, well, it works for one.
That road that's in there is the old highway 88 or 89 in question and the pavement on the stop very good. So that's why they want to just make it a temporary temporary road. So I just want to add that the board a supervisor nor the sheriff have the authority to mandate the state to do anything. I think if they had it, they already would have.
that is all the questions on the chat. We do have a public comment from great.
Yes, you're public comment. Great.
Any other questions or comments from the public?
Okay.
Questions for a sheriff comment. Until something gets worked out, we're going over
Monter. My question is, is there going to be increased the trolling over Monter?
You know, people going back and forth that weren't typically going over, and no self-home coverage and 90% of it.
So, you know, just for information for everybody in peace of mind, if somebody heads over monitor, has a mechanical breakdown, they're not going to have to sit there for a long time.
Yes, until we get the road back up in our guys
of controlling that road, making sure.
I'm also working with Mono County,
sending one of their deputy son on that side of the hill,
to make sure that we're increasing traffic from our communities,
going into their community.
So I asked them to make sure they have a deputy on that side also patrol.
All right, great.
That was my part B. Thank you.
I have a comment, Louis James.
We have a number of concerns that we're going to ask for
to help us and we're going to see what happens if the state representative is listening and the
folks in this room got together with them, got together with our state center and our state
and some of the person in the next 72 hours and said, Bob, you're doing a great job. Markyville needs
a road, a bridge, an access point for shuttles in the next seven days, they need to have that
job done in about 10 days. Get back to me on how that's going to happen. That's probably possible
and we need to kind of guide ourselves through the difficulty of being
pushy in their emergency that asks the state legislators to have a nice conversation with Bob that this can happen Bob if you pull in resources and we are authorizing and supporting you to do that.
He will start talking to his network of how to make this happen.
Right now, he's in business as you do.
He's going to do the best he can,
but that is not really sounding like an emergency response.
And I would ask the folks in this room,
especially the people of the Dias,
to how to up make some calls to the state legislatures
and get the request on record
that you want them to talk to Bob about
moving this forward at about 50% of what he is now offering.
I just have a question. There's a lot of things that you're asking. I'm sure you're taking
notes that you'll rewatch the film. Are you going to reply back to some of these questions online
on your website? Yes. Thank you. Is there a tentative data?
Okay, great. Thank you. I appreciate that. We'll do the best. We can to answer the questions we can
today. And if we need extra time, the they'll will be answered. No, I would hope no later than
sometime on Monday if it's coordination, you know, within amongst ourselves, we can
quickly, if we're trying to coordinate with the state and agencies, we're kind of at their mercy.
Can we speak on the mic, please? Because there are people on Zoom.
Yeah, I'm up on it. I know that most sports supervisor meetings are our
to the same general place on the Alpine County website or this meeting also be archived there or in a special location.
Yes, I can post that to the website.
Okay, just that anybody who missed its fake and still watched the entire meeting there.
Absolutely.
Thank you very much to you.
We have a comment from Darma Farm.
Darma, can you hear me?
Could you hear me now?
We can hear you.
I comment concerns the mark the bill PUD and summit plumbing.
And my name is John Super, and I was a director for the PD for many years.
And Summit plumbing has the ability to evacuate both tanks.
There's two tanks down at the bottom of the hill.
One separates the flow flows into and it's got a great where I believe most without
seeing it, where most of the debris is settled, and then they have a pump state, a lift
that a line leads right to that.
If that lift station has been compromised by mud flow,
they can evacuate that.
They evacuate the system for fats,
grease, and oils, and they clean the system usually annually
or by annually.
They also have the ability to truck any affluent
that needs to be trucked up the hill and put it in our ponds.
So they don't have to leave the site necessarily
to do their job, whether or not any of the lines, but somebody made a comment that it would
back up into the bathrooms. Actually, what happens is there's some manholes in what is his
heritage park, and that's where the affluent comes out. It pops up right there and it flows
as Tennessee flowing to the creek. By the time it gets to the lowest person on the line, which is
Virginia York, why you've got several more manholes that will lift from sewage back up.
But I believe that some plumbing, if you can get them and tell them amount of hazard to
come over the hill, that they will mitigate the problem with Michaelville, PUD, quite quickly.
Hey, John, it's Tom and Sheriff's Office, so that's what people were concerned about as
we're going to get a sewage out. So they can actually, when they're truck, they can pump it out and
dump it into the pond correct. They don't have to truck it out of here. They don't have to
truck it out of there because they have the ability to to open the gates up there and put it in the pond
directly. They also might have the ability to pump it up the hill through the line that runs up
along the side of the road or runs up the left side of the road and into the pond.
Thanks, John, for sharing.
On that same subject, I learned that the clearing out heritage park is not something that
our road crews are going to be able to do.
We're going to need to hire a contractor and we will be reaching out to a contractor today.
And if we need to reach out to Calo, yes, to help us get a contractor.
If we can't get one on our own, we will do that today too.
I'd like to thank everybody here at the county, people, for putting this together and for
informing us of what's going on and it makes me, it gives me some comfort that knows that we have
a local effort that's working to try to help us along, but I am just so frustrated with
calterams to be blunt. As we've heard, we aren't getting any response to the calterams
questions of recent and, you know, we're dealing with a huge bureaucracy that doesn't really care,
as has been pointed out. And so if there's people out here who are more technically savvy than I am,
I'm wondering what we can do to shame them,
to publicize the lack of response and get that
out out there to other organizations. They aren't going to do anything unless they're
pressured to do it. And talking to our legislators, that's all fine and good. But it's
media. And I don't know what we can do if we can do anything. But it's not, um, what we're doing here, locally,
we're pulling together. And that's great. And we're doing a good job of it. But we've got to
break this lockdown, so to speak. We do have channel two news from Reno here. I'm sure she'd be happy
to interview anyone that wants to talk.
I have just a couple of more chats.
Brianna from Live Island's Bre, her phone number is by three zero.
0, 69, 4, 1, 8, 5, 3, if you want, they can coordinate your basic needs out from our KVIL. And
Trevor Coolidge with STPUD says, I have spoken with our general manager John Feel at South Tahoe,
community. And we want to know what we that we want to offer all available resources to assist
with vector trucks bypass pumping and crews to address the sewer issues.
That's all the chat.
Hi, I'm Michelle Matias. I'm living within the Delhi, if you all remember the Delhi.
So, as most of you were aware, the, there was a nice flow of mud across Stonefly
between the valley and the Stonefly.
So, one question I want is, we still will have to remove some mud and do some cleanup
in front of those two places specifically, where we put the mud, would be able to have
water truck soften the mud.
I'm thinking as we go along,
this silk is going to turn into something hard and nasty.
And I'm going to need to be able to remove it
on both sides of the building to
are counting in about,
but help with that, meaning, put some water on it
since we are in water restrictions.
I mean, it's not urgent.
I'm still sort of from Phil and Zan bags,
But it is, you know, in the back, I've probably got a good seven inches that I'm going to need to get rid of, you know, it's up against the shed.
So that's one thing I would like to use it about.
And then of course, would we have availability at some point to worst on this sidewalk to get that further layer gone.
And then my next pet peeve is people speeding through town.
It's ridiculous.
We are not an asphalt road.
We are currently a dirt road.
So as these people speed, they're flinging mud pieces.
If it's still wet, I got flung the other day.
And then it's creating just dust clouds.
We need to, I asked that we lowered this speeding town or vise these people.
I kind of witnessed what I thought was, my perception was when the light turned green
it's a bridge that was like a quarter mile run for people.
And even the counter-ins people, the people who are speeding are right up against the counter-ins
people.
It's not safe.
Just that yesterday, our question today, my deputy Green has been staying here in town, he hasn't gone home, he's been here the whole time.
So he's been trying to address that. And what happened, what I was told what happened is the CMS sign got turned off on 295 and 89 monitor packs.
So these people are coming over, they're coming over for no reason, and then they're upset and want to go back. So they're doing it. So we got this sign, put back on, it's up and running now. So hopefully we won't have that problem anymore other than the local contractors. So it's hopefully that won't happen again. So all of our CMS signs are open on Bear Valley side and on the Mono County side. So let people know that the town is closed or not the town is closed, but the road is closed, getting north on 89.
So they want to come visit and have a meal if they can then one welcome to do that, but we're trying to keep that piece to keep this beat down now, so.
So, he's been out by fire.
He's been out by fire and basically has three water tenders available to them.
We have one water tenant that's committed down in the McKinney fire right now, leaving two, we can make those available to the road department for that assistance of washing down through the town.
I want to ask Bob, Bob, a hyphal could you please now talk to Tom that Tom has the authority
to slow traffic through Marklyville, as far as not worrying about a calthrans share of conflict.
Here we got when people burst through there, the whole place turns into a dust and we have a
that somehow staggered into our location and wants to go to the cutthroat. It is another mark
against us. Could you give us right now an okay that Tom can take care of slowing traffic down
in the center ofarky bill? Tom and I can certainly discuss that in well. Thank you.
I have another question related to CalTrans. CalTrans did not address the many comments
regarding the building, building a permanent bridge to make transportation over the next few years
that this remain a risk. Make transportation possible.
And the reason is, I don't have the institutional knowledge and I'm not going to say anything.
If I don't, if I don't know what I'm talking about and I apologize if that's frustrating,
but I'm taking notes and we'll get that matter and the others that I have been able to answer back to
back to the team and, you know, I'm public information officer, I'm not a construction engineer.
So I'm just doing the best I can and we'll take your concerns back to those who can you can help. I hope that's, that's how, you know.
I feel bad, you know, I wish I had all the answers, but I just don't, and I'm just being honest.
We have another comment from John Super.
Question concerns Bob, I feel, and it concerns the bridge over Mark Leville Creek.
Is that construction going to continue from in the future?
That bridge has been delayed a number of years now and I was wondering if that one is going to stay on schedule or is it going to be is it going to drop off the map as well.
Bobby muted.
I'm so sorry apologize.
Yeah, certainly circumstances as they are now made that will, you know, likely delay continuation
of that Mountain County Bridge Rails project, which will be a full replacement of the
Martinville Creek Bridge, you know, so we have to, we have to loop back and just see what impacts
that we're currently working on, you know, when we can resume that project in a safe and effective manner,
So, I haven't had a chance to follow up right, you know, to find out of what the status is of that particular project.
We're kind of running up toward the end of summer and another winter suspension season.
So, that very much is up in the air.
So, we'll see.
Bob, this is David Griffin again.
There's another bridge project to an alpine county as well, the hot springs road bridge.
If those, if those, that contractor can't get to work, that's likely to delay that bridge project as well.
You both just answered the question I was going to ask.
Is there any possibility that those crews that are working on those bridges can be diverted to the where it's really needed right now?
But looking to that, the contracts are written with contractors, you know, assigned to those projects, perhaps we can get cruise from other projects to assist.
Anything else? Any more questions, comments? Okay.
Yeah, it's kind of a horrifying situation that we have here. We have a couple days that it could be fixed or five weeks before it is really fixed.
In the meantime, we're going to have some problems with transportation, everybody's talked about how hard it is, or the medication, or the mail or whatever else it is.
And I only have some simple suggestions as to, as many car pools as you possibly can, share the responsibility of going, maybe make a list of who's going to go on the dialeride and go to the do the shopping for several other people at the same time, so the dialeride car doesn't get overloaded.
but keep trying to figure another way to work together to do that so less people have to do the
more miles. We can all wish and hope that the this road will get fixed in three days and we can
come up there. I won't count on it. I would suggest that you could think about it. It might be longer.
So try to make other plans for that. And then another thing about the mud, be very careful about this
mud. It's actually a hazard. This hazard is waste. You need to be careful. Do not treat this lightly.
This is not something that you want to have around your flowers and plant your garden.
You need to make sure that.
About eight years ago, I made a proposal to have a second way out.
And this is Terry Hughes, remember this conversation.
There are grants to do a second way out.
And the idea was to go out a hot spring's road to Turalock Park,
which is also a trail I've been trying to get done.
That is one of the other ways.
It was an estimation of four million dollars to do a door, just a dirt road back and forth.
That might be something we look in the future clearly not going to solve this problem now.
The other thing is, and I'm sure Becky and other locals here have written horseback around that area already.
And there might be an option for us to actually we have a a service in this county that works out of milk creek road over by
Moral County for perhaps we can work some way of that to work to get people passed there because it is a
easy fix if we can get on either side. The North Parking Road problem, the danger for the
member of public on the route is going to be a consideration. We have to come up with other ideas and the other
It is as sharp as to hire people that are younger and stronger to walk at past you.
Well, I did it before for someone else in the county, and I'll do it again, that this is the way that some of that can happen.
But we're going to have to be very patient at what takes call trends to do this.
They're not prepared to fix this quickly, obviously.
And if they were, it was going to be a temporary fix.
And do we really want to go through a temporary fix and then fix it again?
This delay is going to take us a long time if it goes that way.
So paying in there folks, we're going to do the best we can.
And I think you're going to find out that we are trying to do it.
So thank you so much for coming.
Supervisor Woodrow.
Well, I want to thank everybody for coming today.
This is definitely very discouraging issue.
Not being able to get the fix as quickly as we want.
And I have faith that our county is going to be able to answer the questions that people have been asking today. And I think a lot of us have been working behind the scenes here during the meeting and contacting different representatives on addressing some of these issues.
Thank you.
I could read just really, really, sorry, reiterate with supervisor Woodrow said and do and certainly want to thank everybody for coming here and Bob, I think you've got the message.
We need that temporary road in as quickly as possible, and we need it to something that people can walk over, and hopefully emergency vehicles can go over and maybe some pickups with some supplies to be very businesses alive and running.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you again for coming.
The share of fire chief board members, I think we'll stick around and we can take individual comments or questions if you'd like to come talk to us.
Well, we'll be here and we'll get as much information out as we can as fast as we can.
Thank you all.
Thank you.