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Thank all for the fact that we live on a very country where we can meet like this to discuss the opportunities we have to make this a better community and wish to live.

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We would ask you to be with us in any deliberations and decisions.

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We also ask that, and you would help us to recognize the citizens who are going through it and it's true.

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And we actually saved no money on that.

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Please, flag please.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation, under God, in the visible, in every day in Jesus for all.

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That's time to approve the minutes from Nobel Prize meeting.

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and the guy I have a chance to look at.

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I see past the one correction or maybe a couple of corrections.

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Who is home for the last pay to a reference with Lynch Road?

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I think that should be Lynch Road.

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I see reference to three towns as Lynch Road.

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I think that should be Lynch Mill Road.

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Yeah, I think that's right.

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So in our case, we've been one of the most important things.

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All right, and then that on page three of them, that was also one of the little very small.

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And I didn't even know about that.

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About that entire graph now.

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I said, Ms. Williams, I wanted to commission the house on, now I'll just read one of

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that same person who is in the willing to fix or sell a property.

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She, I think I'd say it, it doesn't make me, but she reminded the commission, it doesn't.

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She said, and remembered, and remembered, just scratch it out, and that's connected to the

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very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very much.

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It's got me a thing, I don't know how to say all of that.

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All right, we have a motion that's meant to be a proof, I would say.

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All right, both?

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Yes.

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Don't say we have any public expression, folks here talk about a 99, and there are no public

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hearings.

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So I guess it's time for the same way that I saw it now, so it's better.

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Thank you.

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Sir.

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I didn't plan it.

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Thank you for that.

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Happy to be back.

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Thank you.

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See if I can do this this time, because last time I had a bit of a...

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That's it.

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I'm just going to move this to the middle.

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Okay so back again with more sore analysis this will be our last one so that's great

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we're making progress as we go along so the categories that we have left are

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amenities and town services that's what we'll go over tonight and I have a few refresher

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notes to talk about what we have come up with last time.

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So some of the strengths in housing that we identified were that out of this is a lot more

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affordable than nearby lunchbird and that there are many lots available that could be utilized

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for housing growth in the future.

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Some opportunities are rehabilitation of lighted properties and consideration of how we can

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of our age partnerships with existing community agencies that focus on housing.

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And some aspirations were of course to increase the overall number of housing units, especially

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those that are affordable, develop new subdivision ordinances that will help support new

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development, talk about incentives and a new property maintenance code.

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Then for transportation, out-of-istic community transit was pretty much a strength across the

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low cost of service, deviated broad service within one mile.

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but I think it needs to go in opportunities

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to coordinate with the schools to improve pedestrian safety.

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we talked about having the bus go into English park,

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better informed citizens about the Virginia breeze bus service,

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and expand the way-finding signage.

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activists to respire or hurt

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and opportunities to extend that in the future

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as well as sidewalk extension along Bedford Avenue.

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So for the next meeting,

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I plan to come back with a review of all of the categories

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that we've done and some potential

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result opportunities that we can look at as part of the SOAR part of the analysis because

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obviously we've left that out as we have gone on. So that would be the January meeting.

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I don't have my nifty timeline available, but in January we'll come back with an updated

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timeline and then talk about February and March. I will very likely be the one to percentage

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January but I would be having baby February. So I'm not sure if I'll be the person here

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in February or not. But if I'm not then Kelly Hitchcock from our planning district

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mission will come. And she's been following the law and that's a project all the time.

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So she's up to date and ready to go. But I plan to be here at least next month. Maybe February

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maybe not. So that's that's our plan for now. March 1st. So we'll see if he waits that

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long, but you and everyone else. So yeah, I mean anything to say any corrections here

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except the one that I pointed out about coordinating with the schools.

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Again, you'll have an opportunity to review this at the end, but.

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Well, what else will catch, and then maybe this isn't the time, is that I'm not sure.

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I think we've gotten something misunderstood under the housing that there are many lots that could be utilized.

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I don't think we have many lots. We may have some parcels of land that could be considered, but I would say lots.

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We don't have that.

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I would be a, um, a then I'm at it. Right.

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That I'm a, yes, me.

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You. So maybe I meant to be that we have some parcels that to be considered, right?

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Yeah, actual lots that people could build on. There's light none. Right.

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Okay, just a second.

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And that brings me into you brought the last time that you had it been contacted by the developer, which I don't know, I have to explore that a little further, but I mean, one of his comments was that the $100,000 was so cheap here, that it would have that in itself sort of chased his company out, or whatever, because it didn't feel like they could maximize their potential here, I guess.

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That's an interesting problem to have.

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Yeah, he was an interesting.

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The cost to develop raw land and then build on top of it.

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But, you know, map it out.

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But it is in the loss.

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When one gets in my build, but just to take that raw piece of 20

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makeers of whatever and subdivide it and get the infrastructure and they went on

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instead doing that.

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So, what I could do to get anybody interested in that kind of thing, we've got to have

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somebody who's got enough capital, so to speak, you go in and actually develop, get the

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face properly ready to build on it.

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Or you can provide incentives for that.

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I think that curious about where that county, I mean, that's going to take a lot of incentive

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Right. I mean, I mean, we can't know in the final document that, you know, affordability is both a strength and a weakness in that sense because obviously it's difficult to attract developers when you can't charge exactly what you couldn't lunchberg.

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Any other thoughts on it?

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Okay. So moving on to amenities.

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These are just a couple that I thought of, but of course, you know, you're never limited

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to whatever I put on the slides, it's just what I could come up with.

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So going straight into some meaningful and feasible uses for the Booker Building, I know we talked

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about this quite a bit, but just any ideas that we could get on paper would be nice direction.

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One of the things that has been talked about was a multi-use field, and that would be like

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for music venues, wedding venues, concerts,

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trade shows, in a way, it would give you the

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ability to use it for many different things.

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you say that that is what it is now?

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To a certain extent, but it needs improvement.

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Yeah, it needs a lot more improvement to me, a higher standard.

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So I'm just following up with questions here, because obviously this is your place and I,

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I'm somewhat familiar, but not super certain.

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Do you mean physical improvement?

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Like, air conditioning or air conditioning.

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The floor was just redone in it, but that was kind of a basic.

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Well, that's got to have a good nice floor, so that was re-finished.

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But I think part of the reason Council hasn't gone forth and spent more money on it is they don't.

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Not everybody has the same vision.

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And, you know, if you want to make a brewery out of it, well, that's a different thing than having

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them all to use feeling on a restaurant, it's different than having them all to use feeling.

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So, why would you spend a lot of money on air conditioning heating if it might not suit

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the needs of what your vision is, so that's why it hasn't known as far as it is.

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And so, to get to that point, what do you think would need to be done?

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You have to have a vision. That's what we've got to have a vision. We have a

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agreement on that vision. There was a survey and I can remember who done a

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survey and put it out. But amongst the public, I believe the number one asked

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for back was multi-use. So, right. And that would be my choice as

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multi-use, how she can do the variety of things with it. But I guess other people

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to bring that to you.

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We could also look at a senior activities center being reined on a heated basis, even as part

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of the use of the Boca building or as a number for sort of.

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Well, not just as part of the use of the Boca building, it's one thing that we don't have

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is that we get that, um, what is it, uh, pace or something similar? Yeah, but we don't have

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to say more seniors can get together and maybe playing checkers and shut the board and just,

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you know, something recreational to where people can get together, at least once a week

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or twice a month, however, often, and to have a place to go to, you know, there's a lot

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of people that have said, well, let the wire in the morning, you know, seniors that use

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the community room there, but then, of course, that requires a lot of membership, so this

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could be a free immunity for the town that's safe to have something there.

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I think that's a good thing.

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As we don't have anything, and whatever the library offers or the argument for the law, then you have those activities, but.

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You know what anybody is ever actually estimated or put in some, put some rough figures on what it would cost to do to the book and build it.

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Yes, they did. I think Robert Lee did. I think Jay had Robert Lee went down there and look at it.

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We also had a sound guy out of Lynchburg coming down because one thing was looking at a

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possible music venue like the Hollister or something of that nature and we had a person

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coming down and gave us a testimonial doing sound within the building and it never, like

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I said, it never could hurt all the cats and one cage to get there by to bring on that

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But no lobbyist done support in there.

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I know we had point source out of Lynchburg who was only

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a fulfilling business, but they came down and estimated

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no sales system and they said some of the things,

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one thing was a stage and there needs to be revamped.

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But the whole idea was to make it a use for multiple events,

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different things, whether it be senior center,

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music, you know, garden shows, then just a normal function we use it for such as a barbecue

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beer and blues festival, they are, you know, job, give them job, you know, the race, it's

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an all-est kind of stuff, so that seemed to be the best use for me, because you could get

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a lot of things done with it.

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There's an information about the best of which you talk about available anywhere, you would

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have to talk to Robert or Jay. I know they got some prices. But again, just like the bathrooms,

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you know, you can pour those bathrooms a situated at right now. You could go in and redo those,

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but if you wanted to have more of a music venue then you might have to put those bathrooms in a

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location in the building. So what that being said is, you can get a basic idea. If you

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just want to enter, so here's two bathrooms, let's remove them, and here's a stage, and

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let's put a new stage. But if you decide, well, I want to build some different, you know,

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we want to have a more music friendly or sing your citizen friendly, or this at the

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may be some kind of shows, I don't know, you might have to.

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That bathroom price might be different if you decide to do it somewhere else in the building.

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I think earlier on when we talked about this, we talked about the limitations on staff's ability to coordinate these things.

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So that would have to also be considered, I don't know if anyone has any thoughts on that,

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but who would be in charge of coordinating events or...

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That's not something, and I don't know, but we haven't really had this conversation yet,

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but you need someone, and I don't know if it's a correct word as a producer or what

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the word is.

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You want to use it.

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If you want to have events like that, you really need someone to run it because it's a lot, as

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we know that people have done it, but we've got a lot of work going there, and the whole

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And if that's what the panel wants to do, just to go down that road, then it might be a position to look.

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Maybe not necessarily there'd be a town employee, but there could be a outside independent producer that we say,

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we have a nice building facility here, you can use and bring some entertainment to town,

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and we'll talk about revenue sharing or something to that nature.

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All right.

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Well, I think first off, it just needs to be a building that is just clean or a dinosaur

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to use.

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Those things may come later, you know, maybe as a town, as they evolve, there might be

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a, um,

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uh, one of the college area of promotions, uh, that's coordinator for the town,

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but in the meantime, you do have the chain for that.

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You could use our scalability standard, or this I didn't pass.

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You've got Clare Parker, use it this weekend for their race, had the AOT use it for their

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race, and the Barbecue, but if you just had a building where more people would be comfortable

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using it, but the bathrooms are horrible.

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And then if you want to have a meal of any sorts, there's not even a prep kitchen, which

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is really all that's needed, but there's nowhere for someone to cater to.

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anything down there. They'd have to work out of a tent or a truck or something. But what

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they put in up that VTI as exactly what's needed, it's called a prep kitchen. A big refrigerator,

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but in a warming up right warmer, but in the rest of it comes in, a caterer can bring the rest

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on it to have a place to do. Is that a possible capital expenditure that the town, I mean,

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And they don't talk about anything like that.

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I'm not sure if the Forest had a mayor.

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The Capitol has been interested.

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So if that's not what you've been saying there,

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apparently there are some of your own counsel

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that one is in the direction we're talking about,

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and others do not.

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That's a peasant.

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And so the compromise was, like,

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Marie and Poetett,

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in these some basic physical improvement,

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and the first step was to do the floor.

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And the forest, now, they talked about their bathrooms, they talked about painting, they talked

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about, you know, just getting it in a general, as he is a general better appearance.

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And that, that's where he is right now, you know, as far as what's the next step, we've

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got to floor that I do, we want to do the bathrooms now, you need to paint it, do you need

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to get the cobwebs out to sailing, you know, what do you need to do to get it, more people

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you know, heat and air conditioning,

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so, but I think that one of the

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hold-ups was, is, you know, the one that's been 25, 30,000 miles on

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heat and air conditioning didn't have to pull it out and put something else in

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if you decide to do something else in there. I guess what it really needs to do is

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It's have somewhat come in there and say, is there a general recondition of the building

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that we can, can we do this heat in there, unit that will satisfy a multi-use building

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in the future or can we do it, redo the bathrooms, set us by multi-use building and if

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And yes, it's the way they work out, you know, but...

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Do you think the question that now that the town has the theater, which could be more

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for performance research, that maybe it needs to be revisited, that this becomes more of a multi-use

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building, and if somebody wants to have a concert, it's something to them to go ahead and

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sound equipment to do that.

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because it's not really up that conducive to performances unlike theater.

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And I think that's one of the things that was talked about is if the theater takes off

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and it becomes a center of performances, if you need to grow and get bigger,

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then that would be your next place to go to down there right now.

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The outside is the state outside that you use primarily for the concerts and all like that.

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Inside, I don't know if it's ever been used if it has, it's been very limited.

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But yeah, that would work, like you say, if it was Google Home to use,

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and then zero-animal mediator for performances.

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I think one of the other questions was, you know,

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somehow the idea of leasing the building or selling the building

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to a business to make a brewery or a restaurant out of.

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I think the book of building is a town asset and it ought to be controlled by the town.

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You turn it over to something like that. You lose all control of it.

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And they can turn it into a brewery and that brewery lasts for two years.

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And then they go, you know what happens to it.

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And then you got this brewery.

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And in the middle of our, of our prize possession, which was the park.

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And I can't, I just don't see turning that over to somebody else.

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I think the town thinks to keep that.

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I agree with that, because we're 100%.

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I'd love to see a book, just not there.

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Is that something we want to note that it should stay

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in town possession?

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I think it's worth, I mean, are you afraid of that?

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I do.

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Since it is, to me, it's always been part of the park.

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Yes.

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And you know, the park has to have its rules and I think that those things we should apply

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to the local field.

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But unless there is a special permit that someone could get to have different activities there.

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Well, I think the location we have here down here with the park and the river and the trails

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and all the stuff that goes on down there already.

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the combination of the book and the building and the speeder could make downtown out of this

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destination point for a whole lot of people if anything was properly done.

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One thing that I've always advocated for for the book of building is follow-in-winter

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exposition or follow-in-summer spring exposition where in its spring town you might have

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garden expo there and we got to river and you could tie things into the river such as fish

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in or kayaking or canoeing and then in a fall you could do you know the harvester things how a

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thing. There's so many things like that. You can use it.

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You can use it a lot. Lots of parking, lots of good parking.

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It just, it really, it can be some so many different things.

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I don't think it should be pigeonholed.

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And to just performances or something.

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I'm just, so it could.

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Some would be like an activist, a civic center, so to speak,

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It's a way you can have a whole range of different activities of uses.

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And I think as kind of it, that's another good term for a civic center, multi-use center,

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because if you think of a civic center, that's what it is.

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They do multiple things and it might be anything from a circus to a concert to a car show,

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to rest on the right.

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You know, our rest on the big trucks.

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You know, depends on the size of building, right?

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Say, to me, that would be the best use for this to be in the new different things like that.

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So happy.

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I'm curious, because I don't really know anything about it,

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but what I've heard of them to be in radio, what happened?

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It's a harvest or something compared to that.

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It's not a great big place, is it used to be a tractor?

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Yeah, it used to be a big much bigger than the book is probably not as big.

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It book or build and I think a C-400 people.

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And the farmer's dirt has two stages.

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They have a main stage of stairs.

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And they have a smaller stage.

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Dale's stairs work.

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One time I was up for the head concerts on both levels.

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But I couldn't, I don't know, the number of people, you know, the seats, or anything like that.

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But I think they do, they have a producer or events coordinator that gets all of those acts to come in.

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I don't know if Rocky Mount has a whole lot to do with who they say comes in, but they have somebody that does it.

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But the building lives by the town of Rocky Mount, is that writer is really, really not in that.

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I don't know.

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I'm pretty sure it is.

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And then it's run by volunteers.

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Most of the people who come pick, pick, pick, pick tickets and pop the pop and pour it and all

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I get they have like I think they haven't been host to volunteers that do it.

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But the original guy that was doing all the commercial bookings, I slept on here and they got

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of my new company, but I already brought it to my day.

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But he doesn't work for the town as far as you're home.

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Yeah, that works.

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I don't think.

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I don't think.

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I don't think the original idea works for the day.

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We can look into that, too.

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And, you know, I can come back with some more information about how works, over there.

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That's interesting.

329
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That's just kind of the thought.

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The old rebel-valid resources, they turned that into a venue I can't think of the name.

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It's a great hurry.

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It's a great hurry.

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It's a great hurry.

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It's a phenomenal, the way that they win inside and revamped that from basically a warehouse space.

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And I think that it's something like that.

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They sort of wanted up with their architecture.

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And that doesn't look like, you know, out of this war on expense that they went through to get that like it is.

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And the book and Bill thing could be turned into something similar.

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I think that, you know, you build it in the outcome of one of those types of situations.

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And so, you know, that maybe a little bit of food to go up is to revamp that a side so that

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people would want to come to my channel.

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I don't know who was in charge of this, but several of you might know Marie.

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Several years ago, there was someone at Canes through town that done some renditions of what

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some of the buildings could be.

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They done a sonic lodge and then the Jimi's restaurant, they done, you know, they

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put it like a B-stroke in a B-H-B-D.

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Would that be a possibility, maybe taken too far ahead, but to have someone like that come in and give you some drawings of what the building could be, could be.

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Why don't I seem to think that that was once done on the book of building?

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It probably was.

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If I didn't have a building, I had.

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I just want to make the study, your experience was great.

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There's sometimes study and the only reason I know that is because I had right R&P based on that study

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of what everyone said they wanted to use.

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We can try to find that study and send it back to us.

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Yeah, that's all.

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What about if we make it for next month's meeting as well at Sharon Hall, I know you've got other things to do,

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besides some of the stuff we say in this place here right now, but I was saying to me like,

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if a person gathering about what's really out there about the book of build and right now might be a good idea if I have what it has been done.

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Because I thought I had seen something either in some minutes of sometimes I see the town council meeting minutes,

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and I thought I saw something about some estimates for something to go for a bit.

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And I think I've got to experience something to talk about.

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But I mean, I guess the question I have right now with the state of Virginia running this

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multi-billion dollar surplus, you all got a big surplus here in the town.

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I also was y'all majority of the similar facts that can get funny.

365
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Well, we've been treating your money fairly.

366
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We do a lot. We don't charge a lot. I think we end up with about 1.5 million left.

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We can do a lot of the book and build it with just a little piece of that.

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I can do the acting for that was far for the theater.

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1.5 million is you can spread it out and don't go far.

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And I would think, based on what we've been talking about,

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because a couple hundred thousand dollars

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would probably go a long way to solve them,

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and hold out to the issues now, to hook it up.

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But anyway.

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Well, the hot money took it right now,

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being the VISTA theater.

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So I mean, I have up here meaningful and feasible

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uses for the VISTA theater.

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So I see that more as a form of music, and we used to have a little theater and community theater and just some great performances somewhere for that.

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Even the little dance schools having their dance performances there.

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You talked about the interdition to actually use being a nice spirit.

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You know, just because I have to stage.

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It wouldn't have a stage, so, you know, yeah, that would be fun, you know, once a month,

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all for some kind of the actual movie, such as, you know, we've been doing the outdoor ones,

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maybe, in the months where outdoors is a very conducive to being bringing indoors.

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But I see it more out, personally, as a movie theater, only. It's got to be, you know, performances, musical,

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I think there's going to be a public input on that somewhere in the other room, but I'm not mistaken, to find out what everybody in general wants.

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You know, somebody said maybe, well, Wavley, when he was here, he said he was at a Harrisonburg, I think, and was in a redown theater up there.

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It was a restaurant theater brewery, all in the same building.

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It had taken one wall and put root tanks down it, and then it had tables, and then it

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had the stage and the screen, so they were capturing everything, you know, so there's

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a lot of different things that can be done, and it just, again, doesn't matter what you

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want to do with it.

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I think with the restaurant coming in across, you even have like a, you know, maybe not a

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restaurant brewery in theater but have once a month a group as a fundraiser does a

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dinner theater and you work with the restaurant across the street to bring

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food or something. I think it lends itself with it's kind of a slut floor and it's kind

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heart to have standing in the city of Sarah life.

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Right.

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I wish my Lord.

401
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Lord, I wish my Lord.

402
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To so do you think the public outreach portion of that will be done before we finish this?

403
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The words.

404
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I probably not will all be complete the plan, but as you think, it will, I think, as the

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the vice mayor, probably with Mitchell now,

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we're currently in there with our architect engineers,

407
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looking at just structurally what's going to have to be done

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and how it will find the different things.

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So I think once we've buttoned the building up,

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early this spring, then we'll start to have

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leave mayor council with our county.

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Was that part of the suicide put on the plan?

413
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Yes, it was.

414
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So they, yes, there are some comments, all right.

415
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And there are a lot of comments.

416
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But I wanted to get your input before I tell you it was common, sorry.

417
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I'll try to remember what they are, but I know they're there.

418
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So what you're not going to appropriate is to do structural repairs to that fear.

419
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We appropriated a million dollars for the fear.

420
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Now, based on the discussion that I've had with the engineers in the art text,

421
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that's probably not a lot of money, but that at least gets us started.

422
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More than likely it's going to cost 3 to 5 million to

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we will restore it. But we will see grants, we will see historic tax credits, so the

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town staff will do whatever they can to that council would need an information to lower the cost of the renovation.

425
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And for now we can put into the plan that the town will pursue those things and we'll be doing public outreach and that.

426
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So, I mean, other than the performance kind of aspect, we can leave it somewhat open ended to say,

427
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you know, obviously the public comment won't have all come in by then.

428
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So, if you're comfortable with that, that might be a good way to go.

429
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And we can revisit it as we, you know, draft the actual plan.

430
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Okay.

431
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Okay.

432
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There's a lot of changes, I've probably all noticed, but what has happened in about the

433
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roast for a better right now?

434
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Well, we share.

435
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Find those more and not do, but I mean, their plan is by spring.

436
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Yeah, they're just, I don't know how to exactly share a lot of this slow start play.

437
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But I'll repair as it is all.

438
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I'll say, but who is who?

439
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Here on the cobblestone, the cobblestone media, I think also when the cobblestone has several businesses that she runs.

440
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So there's a sign company, there's a property management company, so in addition to the restaurant, there are other businesses and I think she's going to close here.

441
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So they're all ready to meet that little guy.

442
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:50,380
Yeah, she's ready to go.

443
00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:51,980
Yeah, she's ready to go.

444
00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:52,080
Yeah, she's ready to go.

445
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:52,820
There's that there.

446
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,760
There's that little guy on the side.

447
00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:54,660
We'll call one of you.

448
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,120
She's renting that too.

449
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,360
Yeah.

450
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,840
So they're all is to do renovations and open up.

451
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:05,780
This is bringing the last time these folks with them.

452
00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:08,960
One side of the restaurant will be a little more on the scale.

453
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,900
So one to have date nights.

454
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,500
And the other side will be a little more family friendly.

455
00:38:14,140 --> 00:38:16,580
But they also have a lot of outdoor areas.

456
00:38:16,580 --> 00:38:19,980
So their desire is to actually increase the amount of alcohol

457
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:21,600
they're not in as well.

458
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,400
Good.

459
00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:25,520
They've got past, press wrong.

460
00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:27,680
I mean, significant past, press wrong.

461
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,280
Oh, good.

462
00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:30,320
My good.

463
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,100
Takes off a little bit the only, then there's more.

464
00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:35,420
I don't know.

465
00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:39,660
She did say she wanted her restaurant thing to mention

466
00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:40,920
the theater thing.

467
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:44,780
She wanted to kind of go hand in hand with whatever

468
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:51,920
I don't know how that's going to happen, but I think they're already at the wheel on.

469
00:38:53,260 --> 00:38:54,560
Oh, no, it's a little positive.

470
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:57,680
Funny how that works.

471
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:05,860
Okay, so just for the sake of time, is there anything else that needs to go in those categories?

472
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:08,680
The book or building or the vissah theater?

473
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,780
Okay, great.

474
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,140
So town services.

475
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,120
I have somehow missed this up.

476
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Okay, so this is the list of counterverses based on what we have in the survey.

477
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,320
There may be others, this is not a comprehensive list, but just a brief reminder of what

478
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,380
they are as we go through the questions.

479
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,680
This is a little bit more open-ended, but I thought it would be good to start out with

480
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,060
which town services are the greatest assets?

481
00:39:49,850 --> 00:39:51,230
I've heard great things about your traffic.

482
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:54,230
I will, I will persuade you.

483
00:39:54,590 --> 00:39:56,190
I won't persuade anyone of that direction.

484
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:58,550
I love everything

485
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,000
on that list, it's a right answer.

486
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,740
We can go in the other direction, which

487
00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:17,000
are there any that need improvement?

488
00:40:18,740 --> 00:40:20,560
I would like to make the suggestion

489
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,660
for improvement at Greenfield's cemetery.

490
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:33,180
More and more people are looking at cremation as a way of their bowel desire versus burials.

491
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:35,420
And

492
00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:43,630
if you wanted to be put up there, you wouldn't have to buy a plot and you could put

493
00:40:43,630 --> 00:40:53,550
your cremated remains in there or either into the muslim, there aren't smaller things called

494
00:40:53,550 --> 00:41:02,130
all variants, please, is correct, which is small areas for ashes in your lessons.

495
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:11,150
I don't know how much desire there would be for that, but I know, as I think more of

496
00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:23,530
that, my situation, you know, cremation might be my way to go and we're not decide to, you

497
00:41:23,530 --> 00:41:29,130
And you don't need to hold a big piece of property to pull a little base.

498
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:36,710
You know, just use a post so that you don't make it, you don't make it, but that might be,

499
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:41,370
not to say, to spend a elaborate amount of money on it, but just to have a team of those there.

500
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:47,530
And I'll tell you another thing about brain health cemetery, people might know it.

501
00:41:48,250 --> 00:41:51,870
Most of the lots of bears are sold in pairs of two.

502
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:55,190
You know, there are a few singles, not many.

503
00:41:56,530 --> 00:41:58,930
And, you know, this would give opportunity, maybe.

504
00:42:00,850 --> 00:42:03,010
I don't know what our population is on very

505
00:42:03,010 --> 00:42:07,570
versus single people's profit, 50-50 in town to be honest with me.

506
00:42:08,010 --> 00:42:11,970
But it might give opportunity for people to,

507
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:13,650
and now, don't need two plots.

508
00:42:14,350 --> 00:42:16,470
I just need a little place for a month.

509
00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:18,810
That's what we put in.

510
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:23,610
Anyway, that's always to mean, to be a little improvement,

511
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:25,190
to do it, bring you a cemetery.

512
00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:27,990
There's not much space left to bring.

513
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:29,290
That's what I always do.

514
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:34,470
I mean, you know, some of those things are probably just a little...

515
00:42:34,990 --> 00:42:35,450
Just a little...

516
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:37,470
Oh, yeah, I don't know if you wanted...

517
00:42:37,470 --> 00:42:38,350
If you actually wanted...

518
00:42:38,350 --> 00:42:38,890
Oh, yeah.

519
00:42:39,350 --> 00:42:40,470
I think they're almost...

520
00:42:40,990 --> 00:42:41,790
They might be.

521
00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:42,390
I don't know.

522
00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:43,690
I don't know.

523
00:42:43,690 --> 00:42:50,410
But that whole area, where the most element is, I think is actually not very attractive at all.

524
00:42:51,650 --> 00:42:53,790
It could be improved on you.

525
00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:58,470
And that's where I think you add to that whole area.

526
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:03,850
If you made it look real nice, it might attract people to me.

527
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:08,790
Well, it's very good to take a look.

528
00:43:10,290 --> 00:43:18,590
Well, one thing a grain hill has scored for is, again, a fortability, I'm not exactly sure what is in eight or nine hundred and a quarter.

529
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:20,690
I think that's right.

530
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:24,370
I mean, it's like eight or nine or hundred dollars for cemetery and a plan.

531
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:27,190
And if you go anywhere else, you will touch it.

532
00:43:27,710 --> 00:43:28,050
You'll touch it.

533
00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:28,470
You'll touch it.

534
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:28,610
You'll touch it.

535
00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:29,370
You'll touch it.

536
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,160
You'll touch it.

537
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:38,940
You'll touch it.

538
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:40,560
will be traffic.

539
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,360
Thank you.

540
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,340
Have you ever seen a town with a town on some?

541
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Sorry, so I was very intrigued by this.

542
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:50,360
It's very cool.

543
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:52,660
Okay.

544
00:43:52,860 --> 00:43:54,580
Are there town services that need improvement?

545
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,260
Is our broadband that good?

546
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:04,180
Coming in.

547
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,080
I think so.

548
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,080
We're looking to improve with that.

549
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:08,160
We are.

550
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:17,980
The town council has heard from DHCD about potential broadband study for the town to update

551
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:19,580
our study in 2016.

552
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,680
I had a follow-up meeting with the last week.

553
00:44:24,740 --> 00:44:29,160
And there are really two things that they are recommending we consider as a town which would be

554
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,640
hot spot in downtown, so that ultimately there will be some ways to get broadband in the park.

555
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,840
If we truly consider that, economic resource, there must be a way to connect people.

556
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:47,280
So they're recommending two different things that we will get at that, and then the last

557
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,700
mile.

558
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,340
How do you connect the existing fiber to the existing residences?

559
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,580
And to be honest, we don't know if there's a problem.

560
00:44:57,580 --> 00:44:59,980
Um, so you're going to have a

561
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,840
We have to do some tests, but the perception is that there is a problem.

562
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:23,720
And I would say I don't read when you park as much as I should. But it is difficult in some areas of the park to get a signal. So connectivity is a problem, at least at the park. So the question is how do you get that signal to park?

563
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,560
How about options?

564
00:45:27,660 --> 00:45:29,060
Does that fall under that too?

565
00:45:29,340 --> 00:45:30,780
I mean, they only fall back back back back back.

566
00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:31,120
Okay.

567
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,720
That's it.

568
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:34,880
And we don't have an option.

569
00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:39,180
There's about a monopoly on that.

570
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:44,860
And the ten is contracted for years with the conquests

571
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:48,180
that the only broadband key in the country.

572
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,860
I wouldn't think that there's not an exclusive franchise.

573
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,340
Anybody else who come in and get a franchise

574
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:59,340
to tell if they would spend money to, which they would not.

575
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:04,380
I think that's the whole, they just like everything we've talked about, how much return

576
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:05,660
is it for these businesses?

577
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,940
And they're not looking to make a little bit of money.

578
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,700
Most of them are looking to make a lot of money.

579
00:46:11,980 --> 00:46:12,100
So.

580
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,300
It's not the same as Mayor.

581
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,380
In the conversation that we had with DHCD last week,

582
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,720
they're actually making the option for that because there is so much money

583
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:28,420
right now through the federal government that it's possible if we already have a fire

584
00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:33,220
which has been at planning that there could be some ways to convince one of the

585
00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:37,700
other carriers to partner with minute planning since it's already there and

586
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:42,620
be able to offer an alternative source but I only had that information for a couple of

587
00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:49,100
days so I'm sure we should tell you right across the highway that we haven't tried

588
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:57,360
at least at the time, we've had discussions with them as mental, I would need to go back and

589
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:03,560
look at what they're able to do. And again, I think that might have been just when COVID was hitting.

590
00:47:06,070 --> 00:47:11,210
It's a great asset for the town to not be contracted in though. So, I mean, lots of communities

591
00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:16,250
have the same problem but they're contracted into just one provider. So, excellent.

592
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:25,290
There are a lot of lines with a trash pick up and we're having to go into one of my favorite

593
00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:28,590
subjects that is electronic gadget.

594
00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:32,930
Disposable.

595
00:47:33,610 --> 00:47:35,970
I'm waiting to say what I'm disposed of those.

596
00:47:36,430 --> 00:47:39,070
Is that hazardous, this considered hazardous?

597
00:47:39,210 --> 00:47:41,690
I mean, you can't just go for a little bit.

598
00:47:41,970 --> 00:47:42,710
Not supposed to.

599
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:43,310
No.

600
00:47:43,310 --> 00:47:45,030
I don't really believe that.

601
00:47:46,210 --> 00:47:46,790
I don't know.

602
00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:48,410
What are you doing with the whole team?

603
00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:49,490
I don't know.

604
00:47:49,490 --> 00:47:51,910
I got two of them in the basement right now.

605
00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:52,970
I'm two.

606
00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:53,710
Me too.

607
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:54,710
I have an old vacuum.

608
00:47:55,150 --> 00:47:56,730
I have no idea what's to with it.

609
00:47:57,110 --> 00:47:58,010
I don't know.

610
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:59,710
That's, I like it.

611
00:47:59,790 --> 00:48:01,510
You know, right, the service.

612
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:02,770
Dang it.

613
00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:07,830
But it is, if you could contract some might bring a re-cycle truck,

614
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:09,310
I guess that's the best way to put it.

615
00:48:10,250 --> 00:48:16,610
somebody that does that and say on the first Saturday I'm just pulling it out of the air.

616
00:48:17,050 --> 00:48:21,010
First Saturday the month they'll be at a town hall to take your recycling.

617
00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:24,210
Between the hours of this and this.

618
00:48:25,090 --> 00:48:27,990
That might be an option if somebody offers that service.

619
00:48:28,170 --> 00:48:29,850
I don't know if anybody does or not.

620
00:48:30,050 --> 00:48:33,330
I know that Lynchburg was offering their own three times a year.

621
00:48:33,590 --> 00:48:35,610
So they weren't actually even doing it every month.

622
00:48:35,610 --> 00:48:40,110
and then once COVID hit they cut that down.

623
00:48:40,750 --> 00:48:40,810
So.

624
00:48:40,890 --> 00:48:42,450
Three times a year would be fine.

625
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:43,410
Right.

626
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,450
Two times a year would be fine.

627
00:48:45,730 --> 00:48:48,250
And that might be a law when we could look at it and see how they

628
00:48:48,250 --> 00:48:50,190
done it and see if we came up like that.

629
00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:50,530
Yeah.

630
00:48:50,530 --> 00:48:51,510
We're pursuing that.

631
00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:54,470
We're going to have to make it right now.

632
00:48:54,910 --> 00:48:59,030
I want you to put an addition to the trans-transfer station

633
00:48:59,570 --> 00:49:01,630
like Cup on Plan 8.

634
00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:11,070
It would be possible that we could partner with Campbell County to get something like that

635
00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:12,410
consider it anyway.

636
00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:19,790
To say have a hazardous transfer site for being or whatever.

637
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:22,030
I don't understand that.

638
00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:22,930
Right.

639
00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:23,530
Absolutely.

640
00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:27,270
Because you know, when you go to the Bayfield itself, all last.

641
00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:38,870
They've got the separate containers for stuff like paints and tires, TVs and tires and raretees like that.

642
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:42,990
Now, when you take a TV over to the place, I mean, I probably don't know what that is.

643
00:49:43,210 --> 00:49:44,410
I'm sure we're being right.

644
00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:48,970
Totally here, but if you take a TV over to the camel county side,

645
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:51,190
do they charge you to dump it in?

646
00:49:51,770 --> 00:49:52,130
No.

647
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:52,330
No.

648
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:59,250
They do collect your information because you are limited for certain things, there's a

649
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:06,430
limit on the, what do you do? Yes, sir. So that's the problem that we've run into. When we've

650
00:50:06,430 --> 00:50:12,950
requested the pick-up, can you, people just drop it off that, you know, town hall for some reason,

651
00:50:13,330 --> 00:50:20,690
they still want to be able to capture that address. But it's something we'll continue to explore,

652
00:50:21,590 --> 00:50:25,770
probably the closest thing that I found so far as the Mitchell was a company that's willing

653
00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:31,690
to send you the box or the, you know, the game didn't even still have to do something with it.

654
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:41,150
Yeah, I'm not an organization, the PDC operates the 32,000 landfill of chemical county, so maybe we can figure something out.

655
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:45,230
I'm a little embarrassed that I don't know more about it, but...

656
00:50:45,230 --> 00:51:01,050
I don't think I've picked up TV's on their book, they said that art, they're John, I think you put it out there on the street, you'll find it disappears, because I had one, I just took it out there and it came down.

657
00:51:01,470 --> 00:51:03,330
Yeah, I had a big 36-inch for me.

658
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:06,670
Yeah, I can't find it anymore.

659
00:51:13,450 --> 00:51:17,470
Just throw all the stuff out on the straight line, and I'll just put it in, and I'll get it.

660
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:18,570
I'll get it.

661
00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:18,810
I'll get it.

662
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:19,790
I'll get it.

663
00:51:20,290 --> 00:51:21,630
I'll get it.

664
00:51:22,130 --> 00:51:25,250
The town shop might appreciate having a dedicated day.

665
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,360
We'll definitely get some more information about this and figure out what the

666
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,840
limitations are and how feasible it is.

667
00:51:41,370 --> 00:51:45,430
Are there any other services that you think the town should provide in the future?

668
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:55,570
One of the things that somebody brought up in one of the council meeting through the other day was a site, so that was,

669
00:51:56,450 --> 00:52:01,790
would have a camera, for example, it might be somewhere in the town hall here,

670
00:52:01,830 --> 00:52:09,310
and that would be for people that have to exchange children or if you will sell something online

671
00:52:09,310 --> 00:52:16,690
and you wanted to have a safe meeting placed and you could come to the safe zone and do your exchange.

672
00:52:17,950 --> 00:52:19,170
You're a part of that.

673
00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:24,010
If I'm not a fake ambassador, the chief of that is part of the CRC.

674
00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:38,250
I know a few PAS, you said something about it, but this is just a real course at, we could have that in writing that we want to have that safe zone because everybody,

675
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:45,750
There's so many interactions now with strangers, for one thing or another, it's nice to have a site in place to do.

676
00:52:46,010 --> 00:52:47,210
Farmer, Facebook, marketplace.

677
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:52,070
I don't know how I've relived credits list as any more of the Facebook Marketplace.

678
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:52,870
That's definitely.

679
00:52:54,570 --> 00:52:56,810
That was at the Tamar city of Malaskies.

680
00:52:57,230 --> 00:53:01,430
Started the Christmas gift to the place department.

681
00:53:01,650 --> 00:53:02,510
They're holding them.

682
00:53:02,890 --> 00:53:05,350
So that Portch, where they come.

683
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:05,970
Portch power.

684
00:53:05,970 --> 00:53:06,330
Oh.

685
00:53:07,150 --> 00:53:08,490
It's really interesting.

686
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:10,290
Yeah, there's elective packages.

687
00:53:10,550 --> 00:53:14,710
I think they're probably going to all think regret that this is good.

688
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:18,990
I'm going to guess the town doesn't have the capacity to do that.

689
00:53:18,990 --> 00:53:20,810
That was a great service though.

690
00:53:21,310 --> 00:53:21,450
Yeah.

691
00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:24,950
And then you come and pick it up from the police department.

692
00:53:25,390 --> 00:53:26,890
So it's not like you're from fortune.

693
00:53:27,790 --> 00:53:28,210
Get stolen.

694
00:53:30,590 --> 00:53:31,770
Yeah, I got to look into them.

695
00:53:31,950 --> 00:53:33,030
I'm curious from him.

696
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:35,170
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.

697
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:39,390
So this site's done at the Chief of Police apparently

698
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:42,530
has a request of the money going, where would it be?

699
00:53:42,910 --> 00:53:43,630
Thank you very much.

700
00:53:44,130 --> 00:53:46,270
It would be somewhere around town all building.

701
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:50,230
It would be designated as a safe zone with camera.

702
00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:51,450
Okay.

703
00:53:51,490 --> 00:53:52,190
Well, 27.

704
00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:53,470
Interesting concept.

705
00:53:55,150 --> 00:53:55,210
Yeah.

706
00:53:55,210 --> 00:53:56,830
It's a good problem, that's true.

707
00:53:57,950 --> 00:53:58,190
Yeah.

708
00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:59,810
Yeah, this is a little nerve-wracking when something

709
00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:02,070
and I don't know what work it plays to you.

710
00:54:02,170 --> 00:54:03,910
Just that everybody, but you just don't know.

711
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:06,890
So you, you know, guess somewhere that is populated

712
00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:08,350
like Walmart, are you talking about?

713
00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:10,910
Because it's a piece of the thing that I don't know.

714
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:14,990
Yeah, I wonder if there are liability issues with that.

715
00:54:16,310 --> 00:54:19,530
They actually had it up the street for me when I lived

716
00:54:19,530 --> 00:54:21,270
and touched the building.

717
00:54:21,350 --> 00:54:23,630
The thinning weather is right outside of the police department.

718
00:54:23,710 --> 00:54:25,850
No one necessarily wanted to monitor it in first day.

719
00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:29,030
But most people aren't going to come in and run

720
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:33,470
right in front of the police department, and it wasn't in the face to face this, and everybody

721
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:38,210
doesn't need it out of the face, and they were leaving the face in between, and so you weren't

722
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:42,510
wanting to anyone else's car, they weren't coming into yours, it was a kind of exchange in

723
00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:45,370
the middle of that face, and it seemed to work well.

724
00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:52,570
So you're just saying that everybody is called a sex patient, but you consider it to be like a guaranteed sex.

725
00:54:53,210 --> 00:54:56,830
So we're probably like called a crazy sex patient.

726
00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:00,290
You're the lawyer.

727
00:55:00,470 --> 00:55:01,450
Don't you like those things?

728
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:05,130
You like the ones that you like the ones that you like the ones that you like.

729
00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:10,210
But I'm sure if other places are doing it then maybe it's okay to do.

730
00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:15,670
I'm sure if other places are doing it then maybe it's okay to do.

731
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:20,770
because of the mental state, but I'm where she's thinking it twice a year,

732
00:55:21,550 --> 00:55:23,330
shredding. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

733
00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:25,290
I want that.

734
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:31,030
I think it's still what, at least in terms of keep America beautiful,

735
00:55:31,570 --> 00:55:35,750
and of the free still limited because of COVID coverage.

736
00:55:36,070 --> 00:55:39,290
Even if again, that was just once a year, you know,

737
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:40,430
playing now.

738
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:44,210
I let it up to boxes and took them to lunch for about two months ago.

739
00:55:44,210 --> 00:55:50,950
And we are still exploring that this is the Mitchell because the initial role that was supposed to be Earth Day.

740
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:56,450
So with Earth Day, not too far away, we're still trying to get them to come around that.

741
00:55:58,660 --> 00:55:59,300
Do you have a company?

742
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,820
Is that the fun?

743
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,000
It is.

744
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:03,560
There you are.

745
00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:04,240
Yes.

746
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,180
That's the fun.

747
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:05,720
That's the fun.

748
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Yeah.

749
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,880
Yeah, and then, but every time we have four of eight of them,

750
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,420
COVID, we're not.

751
00:56:13,620 --> 00:56:14,340
We're still not ready.

752
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,340
Because that was, you know, if you had training,

753
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,440
you had the electronics recycling,

754
00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:21,900
and even have the drum shake, take back all in one weekend,

755
00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:24,460
you know, set it up, say them,

756
00:56:25,220 --> 00:56:26,340
try a lot parking lot.

757
00:56:26,420 --> 00:56:28,400
So it's pretty much in the center of tango.

758
00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:30,560
Is there currently a drum take back?

759
00:56:31,540 --> 00:56:31,780
Yes.

760
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,000
And as you know,

761
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,060
I don't know if it's been installed yet or not.

762
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:44,500
It'll be a box going in from the little cut of your brother's police department when you can drop off.

763
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:44,820
I don't know.

764
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:47,740
What is it?

765
00:56:48,020 --> 00:56:48,200
It's CBS.

766
00:56:48,740 --> 00:56:48,980
What do you want to do?

767
00:56:48,980 --> 00:56:50,000
I do.

768
00:56:50,020 --> 00:56:51,040
Of course I have to stay here.

769
00:56:52,420 --> 00:56:52,540
Yeah.

770
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,280
I have to go for it.

771
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,880
No, it's run into it recently, right?

772
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,180
What's that?

773
00:56:58,180 --> 00:56:59,900
No, it's run into it recently, right?

774
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:00,460
So.

775
00:57:00,460 --> 00:57:05,780
that were paired that way? Yeah, that happens. Staff shortages, I can't see them to stay open.

776
00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:13,890
Yeah. Okay. Any other less pull for other counterplaces?

777
00:57:16,580 --> 00:57:17,280
This is not a final

778
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,080
last call. We're going to head at this stop. We're going to head at this stop.

779
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:22,760
We're going to head at this stop. We're going to head at this stop.

780
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,980
We're going to head at this stop.

781
00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:30,360
Another one, sir, I said was a customer happened and it was supposed to be in coordination

782
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:39,000
with the county, through the library, and that was a place to stop or towards the information.

783
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:47,500
I don't want to press up a material last or not, but that needs to be a talent service

784
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:55,360
is that marketing or tourism, we don't have that right now, but it needs to be something

785
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,120
done from other town in the future.

786
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:01,840
And the way it was supposed to be was the library.

787
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,140
The county libraries, I'm not sure if it all came out of it,

788
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,000
but this one would have been a place if you weren't to find out.

789
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,060
You know, different things to do in the area

790
00:58:11,060 --> 00:58:13,580
or things about out of this day, you would have been a library

791
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:15,240
and picked up the pamphlet or what.

792
00:58:15,700 --> 00:58:17,320
And that was supposed to have been run through,

793
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:21,020
I believe, the county, but I can't, I don't know where it's at.

794
00:58:21,020 --> 00:58:26,240
And we have to put Virginia the state in order to have all this brochures.

795
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,180
You have to be open seven days a week.

796
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,200
Which they would be.

797
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:29,860
Which they would be.

798
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,940
Which you would want to change.

799
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,460
Chamber of Adol and that.

800
00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:33,400
They weren't open.

801
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,440
So they couldn't be in a position or somewhere.

802
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,420
You just do have to have access to it seven days a week.

803
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,340
I think it was slow.

804
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,060
I'm going to say it with Paul Fembrelli due to COVID.

805
00:58:45,340 --> 00:58:48,680
The last conversation I had to do was a couple of weeks ago.

806
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,800
is that they're ready to start ramping up and getting that run.

807
00:58:51,980 --> 00:58:56,260
They've started to clean out of it, where it's going to be, and now there's the point

808
00:58:56,260 --> 00:59:00,500
we're looking at, getting ready to be able to go and put in the shelves and

809
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:01,420
shelving different things.

810
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:05,460
Like that's only, I'll check the door, and I think that's the first to be needed.

811
00:59:10,790 --> 00:59:13,090
Well, that is all I have for tonight.

812
00:59:14,810 --> 00:59:20,610
Like I said, we will be back in January with a listing of everything that we've done.

813
00:59:20,610 --> 00:59:26,250
you know, it'll be a full one-pager, it might be a two-pager, and some recommendations for

814
00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:31,590
the results portion, and we'll come back with a revised timeline, and figure out where

815
00:59:31,590 --> 00:59:32,150
we're at.

816
00:59:33,350 --> 00:59:34,490
Anything else about that?

817
00:59:34,750 --> 00:59:34,830
Yes.

818
00:59:35,070 --> 00:59:35,270
Mr. Chair.

819
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:36,410
Mr. Chair.

820
00:59:36,450 --> 00:59:36,550
Good.

821
00:59:37,950 --> 00:59:41,470
Just for anybody that might be watching, Chair Williams, Director of Community Development.

822
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:45,870
Just so that you know, some of the things that Ada and I have even been doing behind the

823
00:59:45,870 --> 00:59:52,990
It's kind of interesting to be brought up the book of building study and you all have said in previous meetings to me about other studies

824
00:59:52,990 --> 00:59:59,970
And I think the vice mayor said, well, who's responsible for this and I thought I'd bring you a vision

825
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
Just because I'm not sure that we all understand what goes into the comprehensive planned document, but this is multiple documents. They all say different things, they all have different years. I can tell you, I'm in every single one of them as an executioner of the document, but I think the comment that the Vice Mayor May was extremely appropriate. I think we're looking at hazard mitigation plan, a source border protection plan, economic development plan, a bicycle plan.

826
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:39,340
the comprehensive plan. We're getting ready to have the AOT strategic downtown plan.

827
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,160
We have the Parks and Rec master plan. There may be a few others I didn't cover.

828
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:51,240
So just one of the things that we're doing is staff that you may not see going on

829
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:59,980
behind the scenes is actually going through those plans because if it says one thing

830
01:00:59,980 --> 01:01:08,280
plant, something different in the park, and we're at Master Plan, which one do we go with?

831
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:14,140
Is the one that's most recently been adopted by Council or is it the plan that actually

832
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:19,700
required under state law, which is the comprehensive plan? So I think sometimes staff

833
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:25,740
feels like they're pulled in a lot of different directions, but that's because depending on

834
01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:32,180
what leader we may be talking to, they may be talking about one plan, and our focus could be on another

835
01:01:32,180 --> 01:01:38,040
plan that we're talking about because we're in the conference of plan update. So what a lot of

836
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:44,780
localities do is if they fail to properly plan. And by that I mean you develop a plan, you put it to the

837
01:01:44,780 --> 01:01:50,480
side, and the new idea comes up, you develop another plan, you put it to the side. In my opinion,

838
01:01:50,480 --> 01:02:19,460
One of the things that we need to do is part of that process is make sure that every plan that we say we want, that we're going to follow, that there's some cohesiveness into this, so that staff knows what direction, planning commission knows what direction, as well as councils ultimately approving on a shared goal and direction when we update the comprehensive plan and list all of these various documents in that plan.

839
01:02:19,460 --> 01:02:23,720
So we don't want you to think that there aren't other things that are going on behind the scenes.

840
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,340
I know Aida and I are doing a lot of fat gathering.

841
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:36,320
But we also want to let you know that our goal this time is to make sure that we don't have competing goals and competing dates.

842
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,720
Because it makes it very hard for staff to follow.

843
01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:49,020
It makes it difficult for you all to make recommendations to council and ultimately it makes it difficult for council to speak with one voice.

844
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:57,980
So I just wanted to share that with you all, and then we'll add bookbuilding plan to this group tonight.

845
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:03,560
First of all, I'd like to share it, thank you for trying to keep up with all that.

846
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,500
But what I hear here is we have many different stakeholders.

847
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:18,520
And the problem is we don't have a place to gather all that information to one spot and it gets grown out.

848
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,160
Yes, sir.

849
01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:29,340
So I don't know the answer to that is unless you've designated one certain place as

850
01:03:29,340 --> 01:03:33,680
to where any capture, all these ideas they might be, recreation committee, okay, here

851
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,240
you're at the Escapola Building, but it's captured here.

852
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,620
Council, here you are.

853
01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:40,200
I guess we're both in the building, but it's captured here.

854
01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:45,580
Instead of on their documents or air documents or planning commission documents, there

855
01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:48,060
needs to be a place to capture that.

856
01:03:48,060 --> 01:03:53,540
And that way, you wouldn't have to help to go through 25 different reports.

857
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,360
But I don't know how to do that.

858
01:03:56,660 --> 01:04:01,820
It might be something somewhere in the future that somebody that has a great mind,

859
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,420
and figure out how to capture all of these little tidbits,

860
01:04:05,420 --> 01:04:08,120
and put them into one place, and then they can go back and say,

861
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,660
well, here it is, here's everything.

862
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,800
You've got every body's on the other side.

863
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,820
Thank you for doing it.

864
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:13,320
That's a lot.

865
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:17,320
One of the things that we typically do is planners just prevent it.

866
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:25,420
Again, I wasn't your planner when any of these documents were adopted, but normally what you would do as a planner is that they all go in one place.

867
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,740
So just town or community plans would go one place.

868
01:04:30,020 --> 01:04:37,260
But typically you have any plans that are going to adopt usually the person in my position is going to comment on them.

869
01:04:37,580 --> 01:04:47,300
And then at some point someone does actually just sit down and they do a matrix because all the partners are listed in the majority of those plans.

870
01:04:47,860 --> 01:04:52,860
Some partners don't know that they're listed, and then some of the dates are changed,

871
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:58,340
like you may have assigned one date to it, but the economic development may have the same

872
01:04:58,340 --> 01:05:00,600
goal, just with a different timeline.

873
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:08,120
So I think once we can never get it done once, just by pulling out the goals part of that

874
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,320
and creating a matrix, I think it'll make it easier for the next person coming along.

875
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,720
But at least putting them all on one page,

876
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,400
it's definitely a great suggestion for a start.

877
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:21,500
Thank you.

878
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,120
So since the conference,

879
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,880
the plan has the word comprehensive.

880
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,280
How does the comprehensive plan play

881
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,520
into a cumulative and all that information you're talking about

882
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,640
into the conference?

883
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,140
Well, I think it's critical.

884
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,740
And that's just my opinion.

885
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,140
I think you've referenced all of the other plans.

886
01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:47,400
You don't necessarily put them all in one plan document.

887
01:05:47,980 --> 01:05:53,120
But I think staff knows what we're hearing from the various groups.

888
01:05:53,660 --> 01:05:58,920
And it may be that eventually we need to take the plan back to the groups to see if the

889
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,280
goals and objectives have changed.

890
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:03,560
I think the problem comes in when you assign dates.

891
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:11,640
So let's say the EDA had a date of, this is going to be done by October of 2021 and the Planning Commission said,

892
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:18,900
no, it's October of 2023. There should be some discussions when plans are created,

893
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:23,640
and hopefully I'll be that catalyst to run information group.

894
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,020
But I think before the planning commission adopts its goals and objectives,

895
01:06:29,140 --> 01:06:34,380
that at some point during this process, you look at the matrix that staff will present to you.

896
01:06:34,740 --> 01:06:40,020
And I'm going to be honest, we made this some stuff because it's just me, but we want you to...

897
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:49,300
We don't want you to, on this update, make a goal that conflits with another plan that has already been approved by Council.

898
01:06:52,810 --> 01:06:58,930
So just something I wanted to, sometimes I'm a visual person as a planner, so I thought it might help you to know

899
01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:09,770
We always have moving targets, but if we could just be aware that there are moving goals and objectives and other groups and committees.

900
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:25,230
For grant purposes, we'll probably make sure that any plan that the town has adopted where it's possible to secure a grant funding that we've referenced in the comprehensive plan and then stay where the other document can be found.

901
01:07:26,610 --> 01:07:33,270
You've got all these wonderful plans and all these kind of stuff, and I don't know how to rest of them have been treated.

902
01:07:34,130 --> 01:07:39,630
But I actually refer back to the conference and to plan to see what we did and what they've been planning down.

903
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:47,110
I've had a very many people have looked at this conference and planned very much at all since it was done.

904
01:07:47,810 --> 01:07:52,110
And nobody is keeping up in my opinion with what we said we move on to.

905
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:58,070
And the town council, if you ask, I mean, I'm not ready to say things to be quite

906
01:07:58,070 --> 01:08:00,930
honest with him on top of his name when he comes in here.

907
01:08:02,570 --> 01:08:05,050
But I wouldn't put him on the spot, but I doubt very seriously,

908
01:08:05,110 --> 01:08:06,610
I've read you knows a lot about him.

909
01:08:07,630 --> 01:08:09,190
He just shook his teeth.

910
01:08:09,350 --> 01:08:10,910
Right, I don't know everything about him.

911
01:08:11,030 --> 01:08:15,150
No, but obviously what I'm saying, I'm the need to be a document somewhere

912
01:08:15,150 --> 01:08:16,590
or series of them.

913
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:20,490
There's somebody actually takes and does something meaningful.

914
01:08:21,070 --> 01:08:23,050
Did you even get that one first?

915
01:08:23,410 --> 01:08:25,190
You're first being a police.

916
01:08:25,730 --> 01:08:26,410
That was the point.

917
01:08:26,490 --> 01:08:27,330
I did not.

918
01:08:27,970 --> 01:08:30,050
I think I was.

919
01:08:30,050 --> 01:08:30,790
I think I don't know.

920
01:08:30,790 --> 01:08:31,970
I think I told you, wait, about the conference plan.

921
01:08:32,970 --> 01:08:33,750
Yeah, yeah.

922
01:08:34,530 --> 01:08:34,770
Yeah, what's that?

923
01:08:36,170 --> 01:08:38,930
But I think that's what the problem is.

924
01:08:39,390 --> 01:08:40,430
We've experienced this.

925
01:08:40,530 --> 01:08:43,650
We come up with a good plan, but we never get it executed.

926
01:08:44,110 --> 01:08:54,470
And that's where we need to be holding our cell accountable for the plane because, once you get through that copper, has it play a lot of times,

927
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:56,610
start a non-accompancy here at the end of the plane.

928
01:08:57,070 --> 01:09:04,990
And it's kind of like, I'll take any surveys at different world places and they'll say,

929
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:07,190
okay, let's take a survey and make our place better.

930
01:09:07,190 --> 01:09:12,770
And you take the survey, but the place never gets no better because nobody really looked at whatever

931
01:09:12,770 --> 01:09:14,030
by put down.

932
01:09:14,410 --> 01:09:18,390
And basically, you know, that's not how we want to treat the comprehensive plan.

933
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:26,530
We want to treat this as a executable document that we can improve our tail with, but we

934
01:09:26,530 --> 01:09:29,010
have to act on it and go through with it.

935
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:36,300
You're exactly right, Mike Mayer, and I would say, you know, normally I would say that would

936
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:45,040
fall upon staff, so that's what I'm going to, at least try to do, so whether it's me or

937
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:53,820
someone behind me can be able yearly to take that matrix, and really tell all the various

938
01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:57,280
boards and committees and council where we are.

939
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:03,180
And I'll tell you something, I would appreciate being able to cancel if you hold me accountable

940
01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:09,840
because here's the thing is if there's something in the document that council needs to be doing

941
01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:18,620
and we're not doing it and we're not reminded, well maybe that's a little bit airbised fall

942
01:10:18,620 --> 01:10:24,520
but if we're told this is something you need to do and we don't do it, then that's our fall

943
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:35,260
And I would, I'd rather take it on myself that I want to act because what's written in

944
01:10:35,260 --> 01:10:39,260
a document is for the best interest of all the citizens of the out-of-the-stone.

945
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,420
And we can't let it slide.

946
01:10:45,550 --> 01:10:45,930
Thank you.

947
01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:53,930
Moving on from the comprehensive plan, Mr. Chair, really just sort of wanted to have just

948
01:10:53,930 --> 01:10:58,370
been there and there and brief discussion with you all about some of the discussions that

949
01:10:58,370 --> 01:11:08,770
having with various developers, we're still hearing from the, I should remember the name of

950
01:11:08,770 --> 01:11:14,430
the people, the solar people, clean energy, clean footprint, clean footprint, I'm out of

951
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:20,350
care, collateral, they have, I believe, transferred their interest to another solar company.

952
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:28,350
So I expect to hear from them soon. Right along in that same area, we've been talking about

953
01:11:28,370 --> 01:11:37,610
I recently spoke with a company out of Ebbington that is interested in maybe doing resource

954
01:11:37,610 --> 01:11:46,010
extraction on those parcels, just so that you know that it's something because again,

955
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:52,910
if I'm not mistaken, out of this at that time, so it's actually the code that I had in

956
01:11:52,910 --> 01:11:55,110
Prince George and adopted it.

957
01:11:55,110 --> 01:12:03,030
your zone coordinates exactly like my zone coordinates. So it was borrowed without permission

958
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:10,610
and not changed. Therefore, in my role locality which would permit resource extractions,

959
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:16,130
yours also does. So if you don't know what resource extraction is, it's pretty much creating a

960
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:23,350
So, you're going in and you're getting soul and minerals, things of that nature.

961
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:29,670
Don't know if the people will go forward yet, if they do, it's something that would require

962
01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:36,050
a special youth permit, so that is something that would come before a planning commission

963
01:12:36,050 --> 01:12:39,850
for a public hearing and then ultimately have to be decided by a town council.

964
01:12:39,850 --> 01:12:48,950
So, much like the solar farmer, any development along Route 29 business, we have some concerns.

965
01:12:49,630 --> 01:12:52,990
We do have some environmentally sensitive areas there.

966
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:58,750
And I'm not saying at this time whether I think it's in appropriate or not appropriate use.

967
01:12:59,070 --> 01:13:06,630
What I am saying is that I would like to say I appreciate what the developer did, which was actually coming in and have a conversation with staff.

968
01:13:07,290 --> 01:13:20,190
It's actually asked staff what our needs might be in terms, is there anything else that they could do on that site to make improvements that might be amenable to the town?

969
01:13:20,770 --> 01:13:24,790
So we expect those discussions to continue, should they decide to go forward?

970
01:13:25,390 --> 01:13:31,950
But I would at least want it to make you aware that you could have a potential special use in front of you.

971
01:13:32,830 --> 01:13:39,710
Recently spoke with some developers who are interested in perhaps doing solar over at the Fraser farm.

972
01:13:40,030 --> 01:13:42,970
They met with Hank and then came and met with me.

973
01:13:43,390 --> 01:13:52,350
I will say the one thing that I appreciated about that this request was a willingness to not develop the entire property for solar.

974
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:59,950
And so again, to come to the town and see if there's anything that we can provide that might make this more agreeable

975
01:13:59,950 --> 01:14:09,210
in terms of a mixed-used housing, is there anything that you mean that perhaps we could respond to those means?

976
01:14:09,410 --> 01:14:16,250
So, just wanted to make you aware of those conversations because it's always possible that I'll be bringing something to you.

977
01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:24,690
Obviously, in more detail, I want you to receive it, but just wanted to make sure that you heard it for me and not from somewhere else.

978
01:14:24,690 --> 01:14:30,850
And I'm available to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability.

979
01:14:32,730 --> 01:14:35,010
So in the case of this

980
01:14:37,980 --> 01:14:39,100
burp head?

981
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:40,500
No, resource attraction.

982
01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:41,300
Burp head.

983
01:14:42,020 --> 01:14:42,440
Termology.

984
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:43,300
Yes.

985
01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:49,420
The order which is here to be.

986
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,860
What the special use for manufacturing by counts.

987
01:14:51,860 --> 01:14:52,520
I understand.

988
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,180
So there's not enough to keep somebody from requesting that that be done.

989
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,960
Crap, there's nothing to...

990
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,880
To prevent them from requesting it in order to, at least, proceed with any type of recommendation from staff.

991
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,800
They need to give us the information that we would need to analyze the request,

992
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:23,370
which is going to include information on the site, such as the floodplain, the wetlands, things of that nature, how it will be developed.

993
01:15:24,050 --> 01:15:36,290
I will say that a lot of people don't realize that this can be that this type of material can be a source of economic development.

994
01:15:36,670 --> 01:15:39,770
It's not actually thought about how valuable it is.

995
01:15:40,150 --> 01:15:46,790
But if it's not done correctly, it can cause erosion and sediment control issues.

996
01:15:47,330 --> 01:15:49,050
It can tear up your roads.

997
01:15:49,050 --> 01:15:54,810
it can cause congestion with the number of trucks that go through there there's a potential

998
01:15:54,810 --> 01:16:01,470
for accidents. So it's definitely not something that we would just bring to court to you

999
01:16:01,470 --> 01:16:06,550
without some additional studies and information. It's really just to make you aware.

1000
01:16:07,850 --> 01:16:11,510
Do you have any idea what those resources may or may not be?

1001
01:16:12,410 --> 01:16:16,650
I do not know what the materials are and the soul typically they're going to take

1002
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:26,430
what's considered clean dirt and use it as your fill for other development. So as they

1003
01:16:26,430 --> 01:16:34,310
need to go in and create paths or do any kind of pre-construction work, it's usually what

1004
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:45,530
it's used for. So they're not going to have a quarry, any of these other uses, they're just

1005
01:16:45,530 --> 01:16:52,170
words in their mouth because I don't have anything written in front of me, but my understanding is that it will be similar to

1006
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:58,850
a site that's in Campbell County off of Langdon Road right before you get to Leesville Road.

1007
01:17:01,620 --> 01:17:11,000
Everyone's looking at me. Okay, there was a site somewhere in Campbell County where they had a

1008
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,160
So they come in, they dig up, and then they leave.

1009
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:27,620
Since I don't have an application, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, who, I'm not going to come

1010
01:17:27,620 --> 01:17:34,660
in yet, but again, just, I don't want this to, I guess my concern is I don't want this to hit

1011
01:17:34,660 --> 01:17:39,520
you the way the soul of art did. We're all of a sudden we were having to react based on someone

1012
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,440
trying to push something down, step in the towns,

1013
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,960
throw it or put it on our plate before we were ready.

1014
01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:49,540
So I wanted you to at least have this in the back of your mind,

1015
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,720
so you could be mindful that I may be coming back

1016
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,240
to present something to you.

1017
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,740
So where are we going to do this?

1018
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,460
There are several parcels on 29.

1019
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,100
I think some of the same parcels

1020
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:02,520
that may have been considered for the solar farm.

1021
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:04,860
There are no contracts.

1022
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:07,460
They're really just doing their due diligence,

1023
01:18:07,460 --> 01:18:14,860
which we're grateful for. And if there was some way that it could be done in such a way that

1024
01:18:14,860 --> 01:18:20,760
it could benefit the town, you know, then certainly will report that back to you.

1025
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:27,880
Yeah. Now, if it's true that it's been used as a borough pitch, you might have somebody comes in,

1026
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:33,320
and that opens up the land, clears and does whatever they gotta do it, but it's in their

1027
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:39,460
of control and comes in and removes a thousand cubic yards of dirt this year and they go away

1028
01:18:39,460 --> 01:18:44,980
and they'll come back to ten years. And I mean because that's the kind of thing you're talking

1029
01:18:44,980 --> 01:18:49,220
about with a bar up there with just no one bar because they come and use it when they want to use it

1030
01:18:49,220 --> 01:18:54,840
and they don't use it when they don't. And that is the possibility, Chairman, what I wanted to do was

1031
01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:00,640
I don't, I would prefer if we didn't come in on it before we had an actual request because I think

1032
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,800
That sort of would happen with the solar farm.

1033
01:19:03,220 --> 01:19:06,140
We got into the weeds before we gave them a chance to speak.

1034
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,860
So more so I just want to make sure that you're aware.

1035
01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:15,280
And this also be in my monthly report to Council, so they'll see it as well.

1036
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,360
But because you all would be the first stop before you got to Council, I want to at least

1037
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,140
make you aware.

1038
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,000
We do, in fact, receive an application, I'll make sure that you have it.

1039
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:32,820
It says people who are developers, who were interested in developing a piece of land here

1040
01:19:32,820 --> 01:19:38,900
to put a house, you know, that we might be more interested in talking to them.

1041
01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:44,140
That is a discussion that I've had, and something that they might be willing to consider.

1042
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:51,420
But again, because we don't actually have a formal request in front of us, I'm hesitant to

1043
01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:57,400
be going that, but I did share if there was some way to, well, let me just give you part of

1044
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:57,800
the concept.

1045
01:19:58,020 --> 01:20:02,900
If there was some way to do that and then find someone else who might be willing to come in

1046
01:20:02,900 --> 01:20:07,600
and maybe fill it back in with soil that has been treated, would it be possible to build

1047
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,260
any type of pad-ready sites?

1048
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:17,920
Again, you also, because you have wetlands and the floodplain there, yes, you can dig in it,

1049
01:20:18,060 --> 01:20:19,740
it's not that easy.

1050
01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:24,940
So, you're looking at the, there'd be a two year permitting process.

1051
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:28,840
We would also, as the town, we want to see a reclamation plan.

1052
01:20:29,060 --> 01:20:33,260
And so, that just shows us what you plan on doing with the land when you walk away.

1053
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:45,060
There has been some talk of, are there parts of the different parts of that they're looking at that might be able to be used to create an additional trail system.

1054
01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:54,560
They may be required to purchase credits from a wet land bank or a wet land bank may need to be established for this project, so there are a lot of unknowns.

1055
01:20:55,460 --> 01:21:04,100
So, but I think if the, in my opinion, if the town wants to support something like this, then it probably, the town would probably want to see something more,

1056
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:07,660
just a pit being dug on Route 29.

1057
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,300
So we will, if they go forward, hopefully,

1058
01:21:12,620 --> 01:21:14,700
be able to come up with some conditions that

1059
01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:18,360
might benefit the town and not as the chairman said,

1060
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,600
go in there and dig a hole and walk away at the 10 years.

1061
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:26,900
So I'll bring you more of that if more comes forward.

1062
01:21:27,900 --> 01:21:29,920
Then the last thing that I have for you is just

1063
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,520
to remind you that January, on your next meeting,

1064
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:39,980
will be your organizational meeting so it will be the election of our officers. We'll need to

1065
01:21:39,980 --> 01:21:47,240
look at goals. I would say I would ask you all so we think about that maybe only three goals

1066
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:53,340
and I would hope time for hints of plan would be one. Housing would be another because that's

1067
01:21:53,340 --> 01:22:03,500
something both of you all and specifically town council have spoken about and staff would like

1068
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:10,980
things that we have to execute in other plans. And then I will bring you your draft of the 2021

1069
01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:17,240
Annual Report. As you all know, the Code of Virginia does require that the Planning Commission

1070
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:24,060
nearly submit a report to the governing bodies for their activities during the previous year.

1071
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:32,200
And then of course, the information that Ada and I will have for you. We are working to

1072
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:38,020
and how all of the information you've given us over the past three meetings, including tonight's meeting.

1073
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:45,820
And then we will start looking at having meetings with the EDA, the Chamber,

1074
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:48,880
and ALT.

1075
01:22:49,620 --> 01:22:51,040
And other groups as necessary.

1076
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:59,660
But those seem to be the main core of the groups that the town lives upon, so we'll be soliciting their input

1077
01:22:59,660 --> 01:23:02,440
as well as continuing to see public input.

1078
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:04,940
Any questions for me?

1079
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,700
That's all I have for you all.

1080
01:23:10,210 --> 01:23:11,810
Thank you very much.

1081
01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:14,810
Any time you go, commissioners?

1082
01:23:18,570 --> 01:23:23,950
Then I'm sorry we will adjourn the meeting at 6.23.

1083
01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:28,490
If I don't see you all again, I hope you have a great purpose.

1084
01:23:29,370 --> 01:23:30,430
Happy New Year.