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unrelated or No, I made two. Okay.
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Hit record.
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» Okay. You didn't start broadcast. I hit
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» Okay. Okay. Sweet.
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» No.
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upload it later.
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go check?
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» You got to go out.
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Plug in my car. I'll be right back.

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You're a good teacher.

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» Okay.
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» Of course.
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plug in his car.

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That's what you're doing. Okay.
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» I did a wellness check on her yesterday.
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» Yeah. She's not looking great.
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» She's She came to the gate.

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Okay.
Well, we will start. Pat will probably

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come in as we're getting going. We're
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[clears throat] It is 6:03.
[snorts] Uh tonight we are going to be

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led in the flag salute by Seielson
Howry, a soon to be fourth grader.

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Please stand.

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» I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
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Okay, we'll do roll call and establish a
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» present.
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» absent. Susan has pneumonia and won't be
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>> and Staples. We have a quorum just

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barely. Nico's come back from vacation
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continue. So, thank you, Nico.
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and the reason we need a quorum besides
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appoint a seating to the open seat on
city council because Melanie Ang um

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resigned. She moved to Sutter Creek and
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could no longer serve on council.
Tonight, we have um two letters of

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interest. one from Steven Ta and one
from James Monday. I want to state

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before going any further that I wish we
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have two highly qualified, very capable
individuals who would be of tremendous

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benefit to city council. And before
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folks this is a six-month appointment.
It is through December 26. In August of

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26, there will be an election because in
January there will be three seats and

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there will be I hope James Monday and
Steven Ta who will both run for one of

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those three seats who in January
[snorts] can both be sworn in. Tonight

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it's one person. Um, I also owe an
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before James's letter of interest came
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change the introduction on the agenda
item. And James, I offer you the

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opportunity to say you would like to
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error.
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» Okay. Well, that's very generous of you.
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to read over and you're welcome to read
your own letters or they can be read

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from up here your letters of interest
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questions for you and then you know we
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the position that any comment on that.
Um, so would you like to read your own

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letters? I have copies if you would like
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» Great. Okay, Mr. Tessa as well.

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And we have a faux podium tonight
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times it takes on the flavor of a living
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one person will talk and someone else
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person at a time. and an opportunity for
questions. So, uh, either stand or if

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you'd like to stand at the faux podium
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so.
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» you don't mind, I'll just sit. It's a
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» Boom. Okay. So, the microphone captures
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» Very good. Those read the letter uh
verbatim. Uh presented herein is my

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letter of interest and being considered
for the current vacant position on the

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city council as a result of the recent
resignation of city council member Miss

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Melanie Unquest. I have been a restor
city for over a year and my professional

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background would be well suited in
fulfilling this particular vacancy. As a

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professional engineering and
environmental geologist, I have

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participated in hundreds of public
hearings on behalf of clients and in my

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role as the executive officer of the
California State Planning and Geology

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Board from 2005 to 2016. In such roles,
I am very acquainted with the state

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administrative procedure act, the Brown
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ethics and conflicts of interest. My
resume is attached. I believe my skill

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set would be complimentary and an asset
to that of existing council members. I

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appreciate your consideration of this
letter of interest. Thank you.

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» Thank you. I want to say that Steve
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um it is impressive and uh Mr. Monday, I
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equally long [laughter] in your
architectural career.

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» Mine's longer than that. It just lives
on my website. Great.

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» Or equally.
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James, what would you prefer?
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» Okay. Got it up on the screen.
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Um, so, dear city council members, I'm
ready to express my interest in filling

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the vacant seat on the city council.
I'm 75 years old, so I meet the age

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requirements

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and I've resided within the city limits
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and I'm a registered voter in city. I
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attend city council meetings and as a
practicing architect,

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I presented various projects to the
council over the past six years,

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including the tavern up on Main Street
and residents on last James.

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I've also served as a member of the
design committee for the past several

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years.
Through these experiences, I have gained

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familiarity with the municipal code and
city governments

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and I
assume and I welcome the opportunity

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to expand my engagement
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I'm confident that I am well qualified
to serve the residents of Angular City

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as a city council member.
For additional information about my

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qualifications
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That's where my resume and project.
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one thing. Um prior
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Earlier in my career, I was an associate
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and senior project manager where I
manage many million dollar projects. So,

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I'm not I should have put that in the
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and negotiations with um shareholders in
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I became very skillful at. Thank you for
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» Thank you.
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let's start with Mr. Ta. Do we have
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No, I think they're both qualified.
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» Highly qualified. It'd be lovely to have
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» at this time.
>> Um I only have one

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you registered to vote in amer city.
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week ago.
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questions?
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[clears throat] I don't think so. I
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interested in conceding? Just cuz
there's two of you guys and all the

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races coming up here and
no December you'll be take the seat. So,

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November you'll be elected. I don't
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» And did January be sworn in?
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» I know you guys probably both had your
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» Yeah.
>> being appointed, but um

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» We only have
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potential council member. Um there's
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that comes before us that is of approval
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acknowledge that that would put a
council member on who's got a spouse

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also serving within city government. And
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that is taken pretty seriously and um
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» Yeah. And I think that's u
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the council
uh council to address that

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appropriate time.
>> Pat, any comment on that?

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Can you give me the the specifics of the
potential conflict, please?

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» The city treasurer, our elected
appointed city treasurer serving the

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position through through December is
Lydia Ta,

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» Steve's wife.

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[snorts]
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I'd normally look do some legal research
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So, I'm not in a position to render an
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So much [laughter]

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» yeah it's my impression if there's any
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conflict of interest at this time.
>> Would you be comfortable if there's an

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issue from city treasurer that needs to
have approval from the board from the

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the council if you are appointed
recusing yourself from the issue.

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» I would take it's assurance on that.
Mhm.

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Okay. Any questions for James, Mr.
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This is really, really challenging
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wonderful and have a lot to contribute
on city council and city council would

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needs people like you up here. It's hard
to get volunteers and um

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[snorts]
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we have applications that came in at
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We have
maybe an issue where a council member

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might have to recuse if there's an item
of from the treasurer that needs

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approval. So you have minor factors that
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» Well, I mean
>> we're a small community.

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» Yeah, we're a small community. We're
usually fighting to get one.

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» Oh,
>> to come and now we have two.

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» I know.
>> Um like you said, I hope they just both

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are here in November so we can
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elections bureau puts out the ballots
or the, you know, the paperwork for

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potential candidates. And I hope you
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hope you both be interested
and serving

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many years, several years in January,
regardless of the appointment, because

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the appointments are six months and
then, you know, again, we'd have open

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seats. So
there'll be three openings in August and

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three deceit. Would
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other for 6 months?
>> Two highly qualified people. It's really

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an interesting conundrum for us, isn't
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» Yeah.
>> Flip a coin.

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» Do you have an opinion?
>> Uh, no. I mean, I like I said, I I

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encourage both of you guys to run and
and be elected and hopefully you can

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join us in January. And um
>> I mean, you're both extremely qualified.

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I I think like you know, Mr. Ta just has
a little bit more experience with public

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government governing bodies. So, that'd
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» thing is he maybe has a slight advantage
with experience, but like again, I think

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they can both join us in January
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» I know. I know. Fingers crossed on that.
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would you like to make a move for for
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forward flipping a coin?
>> You both have come up with a solution.

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» Is there a coin flip? Is that a thing?
>> You can do that. We can do that.

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» It's up to you.
>> No, it's up to us.

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» It's up [laughter] to us. That's
>> okay. Collectively. Okay. Can we put it

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up to a vote?
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» Popular.
>> Well, one or the other. One of you needs

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to make a motion for either for your
proposal or yours. So, one make a

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motion. I can't.

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uh at this point I think I'll I'll make
a motion for Mr. Tessa.

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[snorts]
>> Okay, I'll second it.

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» All in favor?
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>> motion's approved. 30

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James really want you to fill out those
election papers in August.

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Okay.
>> Well, I might

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» Oh, please do. Please do.
>> Uh, please do. Either way, we would have

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begged you and Mr. Ta hope you'll fill
them out in August

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» because this is for a six-month
appointment. [snorts]

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And before you can take the seat next to
Bruce with the empty name plate, we need

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Joyce to administer the oath to the
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Okay,
raise your Let me let me get so I can

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hang on to something. raise your right
hand and repeat after me.

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» Okay. Um,
>> I, Steven Ta,

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» I, Steven Ta,
>> do solemnly swear or affirm

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» do solemnly swear or affirm
>> that I will support and defend the

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Constitution of the United States
>> that I will support and defend the

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Constitution of the United States
>> and the Constitution of the State of

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California
>> the Constitution

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Constitution of the State of California
>> against all enemies, foreign and

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domestic.
>> against all enemies, foreign and

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domestic. that I will bear true faith
and allegiance

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» I will faith true faith and can you
repeat

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» allegiance
>> in allegiance

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» to the constitution of the United States
>> the constitution of the United States

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» and the constitution of the state of
California

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» constitution [snorts]
of the state of California

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» that I take this obligation freely
>> that I take this obligation freely

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» without any mental reservation
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» or purpose of evasion
>> or purpose reputation.

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» And I will well and faithfully discharge
>> I will well and faithfully discharge

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» the duties upon which [clears throat] I
am about to enter.

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» the duties upon which I'm about to
enter.

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» Thank you very much.
if you don't mind signing right here.

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Yes.

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And um I gave you one from Can you give
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that'll be your copy cuz I'm
This is a nice day.

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here.

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» I found

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you would just
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that be okay.
>> Congratulations.

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» Okay, James.
>> I'll have to excuse

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be talking to you about

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» Thanks, James. Nice. Thank you.

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» Okay. Thank you. [laughter]
>> Thank you.

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We're now on to public comment. Uh, let
me get back to the agenda here. Excuse

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scrolling. I'm sorry.

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Directed public comment within the
agenda under provisions of the

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California count of of excuse me of the
California government code. Citizens

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wishing to address the council for any
matter not on the agenda and within the

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jurisdiction of the city of Amador may
do so at this time. Please limit

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comments to five minutes or less. Is
there any public comment tonight?

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Elena, your hand went up first.
>> Um, actually, I'll stand up. I have uh

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three things.
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and I think we've some of us have have
spoken about some of this. Um, as you

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know, we have a a new building that's uh
accessed off of West School Street. Um,

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there is no street sign uh indicating
that West that's West School Street. and

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we're having um issues with commercial
deliveries. Uh we know it's, you know,

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on Google Maps, but there needs to be a
street sign on the city property. So,

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this is the poll. The poll's there, but
there's no sign.

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» No sign.
>> Got it.

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» I'll take that. No, it's not in the I'll
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» Yeah, it's a challenge for us right now.
Um, but I think our [snorts] coffee got

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delivered here.
>> Mhm. It did.

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» A couple weeks ago and uh
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» Yeah. I'm still trying to get the street
signs for our street addresses

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delivered. All right. Second thing is
again maybe Lydia and Steven are and and

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probably you guys too are very and you
are very familiar. Um uh you know the

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rain and the sun and the rain and the
sun and the rain and the sun are

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creating massive weeds still in the
cemetery and um I would like to see the

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city council uh take care of that as
soon as possible. I know Stephen and

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Lydia had a a rattlesnake situation. We
had a had babies like right around our

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kitchen. So we know they're there and
yeah. Well, and it's just scary because

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when the weeds are so high. So, that's
the second thing. And then the third

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thing, and you you guys might see this,
too. This is city hall at night at 10:00

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at night.
>> I don't know if maybe it's not on your

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side. The lights.
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» Oh, are you? Yeah, we're right across.
>> So, you're not still in town, but you

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guys might be able to see.
>> I do remember. Yeah, the lights. I mean,

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this is city hall at 10:00 at night. Um,
so it's a pretty pretty big nuisance.

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Um, it's not just the outside lights cuz
you'll also notice before the outside

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lights, we thought it was haunted
because there's the red exit signs are

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so bright that that's what you're seeing
is the exit signs. Um, so, uh, we would

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appreciate some attention to that matter
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» That one has been taken care of. We
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» Okay. Thank you.
>> Yep.

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» Thank you, Elena.

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» Any other public comment tonight?
>> Yes, I came again tonight. This is the

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fourth or so meeting on May the 5th.
Last city council on May 12th. I

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requested under government code 5946 if
I be and city council have a close

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session city council meeting. Um I
learned today from Mayor Staples that

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apparently supposedly a letter was sent
out um by supposed city attorney

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indicating that he didn't believe that
that was the right venue for

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whatever. Um, I'm a little confused
since during the last city council

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meeting I was kind of blocked off from
discussing some of the issues that I

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would have liked to. So, I'm kind of
curious as to how a conclusion was made

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in point about what I was going to talk
about um during that meeting

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specifically enough to say that it
wasn't the correct venue. I believe it

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is the correct venue.
>> I have the letter for you.

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» I can pick it up on the way. Um the
>> you're paraphrasing what I said and I'm

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not sure it's
>> I'm not paraphrasing. I'm just I'm

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drawing the conclusion that someone
concluded without the council meeting

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what it was that I was going to speak
about. Right. and that that might not

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have been it's it's curious to note that
since I wasn't able to speak how the

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assumption was made about exactly what
my approach was to let the city council

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know the reason I objected to the vote
which I I believe the vote is irrelevant

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anyways um to not abandon the street um
those are all opinions that I was going

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to share with city council and and
city's attorney um because the opposing

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ing argument is several and one of those
is that that move in itself would have

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made the entire transaction illegal
because I would have lost particular

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access to the property. So therefore, we
can't just split it down the middle

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which was part of the abandonment thing.
It's not going to work. Secondly, and

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most importantly, that's not what the
city council approved. They approved to

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quit claim. I've been told and I'm
paraphrasing

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slightly that the opinion of city
council is that it cannot be quit

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claimed. That is just factually wrong.
The city can

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quit claim public property to a private
owner under the conditions that it was

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voted on by city council. it was they
can avoid the public lands act or public

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I have written down if such a move
benefits the city including the city no

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longer having to maintain or repair such
property. All of those conditions have

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been met and the other condition would
literally render my lot unaccessible. So

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it would have been illegal anyways just
on the face. This is a problem. The city

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has agreed. [clears throat] I have
performed that's detrimental reliance

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and nothing's happening. So again on the
second part of this why this item was

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taken off of the agenda without
notification to me. These are two

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separate items. One is a special close
session with the city council. That was

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an attempt to from from me to approach
city council and city's attorney to

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avoid a lawsuit with the city at the at
the benefit of the city. That's the

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first thing. The item then being removed
from the agenda, which I don't think the

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two are test technically related, which
is why I kept it on the agenda, is kind

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of it's a little curious. I don't think
it was proper. I'm a little frustrated.

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I do not know if this is the intent of
the city council or city attorney or if

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it's just
unintentional negligence at this point.

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However, the law does not allow intent
or willful negligence to be separated.

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It's a problem. We need to resolve it
and that's why I'm here today. Also,

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because I thought it was on the agenda.
>> Thank you, Kevin.

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any recommendations on how we should
proceed?

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» I can read my letter into the record.
You've got a copy if you want that

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» and it contains a response.
I looked at this. [clears throat]

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» I need to give you the
>> I'll first explain the reason for the

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delay. I had email. The city has its own
letter head and I don't have that. I

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mean, normally I think something from
the city should be on city letterhead. I

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thought it had been emailed at some
point. I can't find it, Sandy. I don't

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know what to do at our mayor.
>> I emailed you to put it on your letter

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head.
>> Okay, got it. Anyway, so I did that and

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I I printed it out and redated a letter
today. Essentially, the letter said,

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"Dear Mr. James, the city council and
mayor had requested that I respond your

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public comments to the last council
meeting regarding the abandonment of the

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portion of O'Neal Alley which runs
across the property. The city has

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determined by communication with the
Amodore Water Agency that there are

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public utility easements in or under
O'Neal alley which would be affected by

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an abandonment of the alley by the city.
Streets and highways code section 8334.5

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provides as follows. Notwithstanding any
of the provision of this article, a

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street, highway, or public service
easement may not be so narrowly vacated

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if there are in place public utility
facilities that are in use and would be

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affected by the vacation. Because of
this, the city does not have and never

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had the authority to vacate O'Neal Alley
or that portion of it as a result of the

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above state law since those facilities
would clearly be affected by its

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vacation. And finally, the council
recently reconsidered the issue at a

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prior meeting and determined not to
vacate the street. Therefore, from the

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city standpoint, the matter is at an
end. And that that was my opinion in

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terms of that. I did not reference
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previously because it I don't know that
I had information whether there were or

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were not uh public utility facilities,
either water or sewer pipes underneath

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it. It turns out later on we now have or
I now have this information that there

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were and consequently that with that law
as I interpret it is pretty clear by its

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own language that the city can't
summarily vacate [snorts]

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um if there were public facilities that
would be affected by the vacation. I

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know it's frustrating. I get that. I'm
aware of that. But I'm I'm just I

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addressed in this simply the legal
issues that I thought were important.

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» If I could respond. Um
the problem I have with the vacation is

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one vacation does not necessarily convey
title. It conveys fee interest and

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there's a big difference there and that
is not what I approached the city

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council originally about. I'm not asking
you to vacate an easement. That was

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never the question. I never motioned for
it. Secondly, as far as the water

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utilities that are under there, the
problem with the vote you guys held is

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that the water agency, and I have the
chain of emails between the mayor and

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the water agency, and in general, they
were general emails. I don't think that

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it was pointed specifically at the water
agency or any other utility. But what

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that email says is that we are, and I'm
slightly paraphrasing, we are

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considering abandoning our easements on
this section of O'Neal Alley. What it

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fails, which is either
intent or accidental negligence, is it

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fails to notify the water agency that a
grant a a deed public utility easement

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was included in what I have stated to
the city. Of course, I spoke with the

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engineer at the water agency regarding
that very same thing and his impression

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of the email was clearly that the intent
of the city was to completely abandon

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the easements which may have according
to the email and the codes that you

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listed even required him to move those
facilities. Thus the reason for his

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objection. So I understand where he's
coming from. So then I asked him, well,

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did they happen to mention in any form
during the council meeting or in any

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other email that I had already offered a
deed easement for public utility access?

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He said, "Nope. No one indicated that to
me." So whether that misrepresentation

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was intentional, and I'm not saying that
it was, or whether it was just

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accidental, it's a misrepresentation.
And thus, according to government code,

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that [clears throat] vote that you guys
held

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can be invalidated because did not have
the proper information.

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» He told me, and we were more
[clears throat] than willing, you know,

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happy to email him back, he doesn't
really care who owns the land as long as

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he has an easement to access his
utilities. That was my intention. I've

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agreed to that with everyone there. That
that should not have been an issue.

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Although you did properly notify the
utilities that was proper. They're just

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missing a major piece of information.
and public comment can't have can't

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involve any action from council. So I
appre I just I appreciate you sharing

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» and at this point Pat we cannot take any
action. So what do you recommend is our

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next step an agenda item a close session
item or something else?

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» I can address the prior request for a
close session. You can't have a closed

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session that involves one member of the
public and no others. It could only

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involve the council members and staff
which can include the city attorney and

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the uh other staff. I sometimes that
would include city engineers that sort

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of [clears throat] thing. We have held
close sessions in that regard. But you

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can't have a member of the public
present and exclude everybody else. I

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didn't request it to exclude everybody
else.

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» No, I'm just saying that it's not a
closed session.

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It's it's like pregnant. You either is
closed you either are closed or you're

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not. There's no uh I mean the public has
to it has to be done in open session or

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closed session. So you're saying you
requested a close session with the city

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council that that was not possible under
the ground act.

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» So clo So
what's [clears throat] your

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recommendation now to have this be an
agenda item?

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» Council wants to
reconsider. I don't remember the month

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or several months ago where the council
took a vote and voted not to vacate the

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public utility easement on whatever
grounds that decision was made at that

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time. If the council wishes to
reconsider that decision, it can be

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agendaized and that is certainly within
your pleasure to do that. But it'll have

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to be done at a at an agendaized, you
know, a regular agenda item uh in at a

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future meeting. you have to get that as
a council question and you can't do that

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or not.
>> Um

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[clears throat]

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there's no point in making a decision on
whether to put it on an agenda item

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without
having the information

425
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,280
that Mr. Jennings wants to share with
council. That certainly shouldn't be

426
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,800
exploited.
>> That would be an agenda item

427
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,000
» from the water agency in terms of their
willing

428
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:18,160
» all that all of that documentation. It
cannot be hearsay and report. It has to

429
00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:21,760
be the actual documentation that council
can and the public can look at and make

430
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,079
decisions on
>> because that would change my opinion in

431
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:32,160
this letter. If the if the water agency
is not that is not the point we we we

432
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:35,839
would need all of that. How do we get
all of that information to have in an

433
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,240
agenda packet?
>> Yes.

434
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:41,240
» At the willingness of Mr. Jennings or

435
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:51,599
» Well, the the yourself, Madame Mayor,
sets the agenda or the council has

436
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:55,440
suggestions, but as to what goes on
future agendas, that is one of the

437
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:00,079
responsibilities of your office.
>> I know. And that's why close session was

438
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:05,200
not on this time. It was my decision. So
that based on my conversations with you,

439
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:09,359
we make that decision. But we cannot
have an agenda item based on well, let's

440
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:14,240
take another vote. We need the
documentation to say is another vote

441
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:18,720
warranted. Was this indeed an error?
>> Which will need to be researched

442
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:23,200
obviously with information that Mr.
Jennings may have, the council may have.

443
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,760
It may be in the record somewhere, maybe
in the water agency record. I don't

444
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:35,440
know. So
>> we the Okay. So again, and and

445
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:41,680
this is why I'm here. We're still
here. The only way that an abandonment

446
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:46,079
can work is if the city abandons and I
run in and quit claiming them or the

447
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,760
city then quit claims it. All that is
unnecessary.

448
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:55,680
And that is not again what the city
previously agreed to do. And [snorts] it

449
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:59,920
still does not convey title. And that
that is one of my objections. We're

450
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:08,720
still stuck on this abandonment thing
and that that is I'm trying to

451
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:12,160
» how do I say this?
>> The car has been steered by others in

452
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:16,079
this past year.
>> Let's not do that.

453
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,839
» And I'm trying to repoint the car in the
direction that it was supposed to be

454
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:24,800
going. Abandonment is not what I'm
asking for. It's not what the city

455
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:30,079
agreed to. and I have performed what the
city agreed to and the city is not.

456
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,599
» And I'm going to I'm going to stop us
because again, we're in public comment

457
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:38,960
and we're getting into a dialogue and
has gone much too far on that. So, at

458
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,640
this particular time, there's not going
to be a decision made about putting this

459
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:46,720
on as an agenda item. It will be noted
that you've made that request and that

460
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:52,240
will be taken under advisement.
we will do due diligence in terms of

461
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:57,440
it's on the agenda for what purpose
because at this point council has voted

462
00:38:54,240 --> 00:39:03,760
on a decision. So there has to be there
has to be a reason to put it back on. I

463
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:07,760
will confer with council on that and
then we will go forward but there will

464
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:11,280
not be a decision tonight about putting
it on.

465
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:15,599
» I I would only like and and for Joyce to
put this on the record that I was on the

466
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,640
agenda for tonight. No, you were not on
the agenda

467
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,800
» last meeting. I asked
>> you made the request to be put on the

468
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:28,560
agenda, but council makes a decision
about what goes on the agenda. You made

469
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:34,400
a request and it was a request for a
closed session and then we found out we

470
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:37,200
could not go to a closed session and so
it was not put on.

471
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:41,280
» I just want to clarify and I'm not
trying to go back and forth here. I

472
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,760
asked for a closed session regarding the
matters and that if those matters I

473
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:50,160
asked to be placed on the agenda so that
it remained on the agenda. These are two

474
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,839
separate things and if no resolution was
made during the the or conclusion was

475
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:59,520
any kind of forward movement was made
during the special counsel meeting or

476
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:04,079
nothing that would change what would be
on the agenda that could be put on the

477
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:09,040
agenda. So I I feel that those are two
separate things and I just want to note

478
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,960
that. Thank you.
>> It is two separate things.

479
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,520
» Thank you. Is there any other public
comment this evening? It's an item on

480
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,240
the agenda or not on the agenda?
>> On the agenda.

481
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,520
» You don't speak now.
>> But I don't speak now.

482
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,400
» This is only for items not on the
agenda.

483
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:30,480
» I think we might be timing out. So
>> I know I can't change that.

484
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:35,280
» Oh, no. No, I don't change it. But
>> anything's welcome.

485
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:40,320
Um,
so any other public comment this evening

486
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:45,920
on matters not on the agenda and within
the jurisdiction of city council? Public

487
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:50,400
comment is closed. We're going to go to
approval of city council regular meeting

488
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:57,520
agenda for this evening. There is one
change already. Item five, proposed

489
00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:02,319
draft budget for 2006 27. This is only
going to be the general fund. In

490
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:07,200
reviewing it today, I found errors and I
don't want to go into discussion on

491
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:13,440
those this evening. I want us to vote on
an accurate proposed budget agenda. So,

492
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:17,599
I'd like to have that removed. I'd like
any motion to approve the agenda to

493
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,599
include with the withdrawal of item
five.

494
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,880
» Thank you, Kevin.
>> Thank you, guys. Have a nice night.

495
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,358
So,
[snorts]

496
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:42,960
so that's for approval of the regular
meeting agenda for tonight.

497
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:48,480
» I move for approval.
>> Second.

498
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:52,319
» So, uh we um actually I was in error. We
are being video recorded and we have an

499
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:57,359
absence tonight. So, we do need to do
roll call. I am really sorry. So we'll

500
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:02,319
do start at your end. Steve, you made
the motion.

501
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:06,000
» I didn't hear Nico. Thank you.
>> Mr. Ta made the motion. Nico second.

502
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:12,400
Okay.
>> So Steve, roll call vote.

503
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,880
» Steve Ta.
>> Yeah. I Bruce

504
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,240
» I.
>> Nico

505
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:24,240
» I.
>> Motion is approved for uh one 401.

506
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:28,800
Thank you. Sorry about that. I missed
that earlier. Consent agenda items. All

507
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:33,200
matters listed under the consent
calendar are to be considered routine by

508
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:37,920
city council may be enacted in one
motion in the form listed. Any item may

509
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:42,319
be removed for separate discussion and
possible action and made part of the

510
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:48,319
regular agenda at the request of a
council member. The two items are the

511
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:52,800
regular meeting minutes of May uh 2026
and the financial reports.

512
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:58,720
There is a correction for the financial
report. In the binders was um a paper

513
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:03,520
with a corrected sewer budget and the
original did not include the revenue for

514
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:07,160
the month of May. [laughter] So that's
corrected in there.

515
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,119
» Oh, [clears throat] did I skip the
ordinance?

516
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:20,440
» No.
>> No. Okay. Next. Okay. Next.

517
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,440
So,

518
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:30,079
this would be um and I have the numbers
wrong there with our minutes and then

519
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:33,599
the financial statement.
Is there any take them together or is

520
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,839
there a motion to pull one of them out
for discussion?

521
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,720
» Make a motion to approve.
>> Nico made a motion to approve. Is there

522
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,760
a second?
>> Second it. There's a motion to consider

523
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:55,359
the consent agenda as one unit and to
approve it. And there's been a second.

524
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,640
We do roll call vote. Mr. Ta.
>> Bruce.

525
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,680
» I.
>> Nico.

526
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,760
» Hi.
>> Motion is approved. 401. Thank you very

527
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:05,599
much.
>> Mr.

528
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,119
» Is that correct?
>> 302.

529
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,839
» I didn't hear you.
>> Yeah.

530
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,839
» So 302.
>> 3011.

531
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:21,839
Okay. Steve, you're going to have to
project. Echo your room here.

532
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:26,560
Okay. Next item on the agenda is an
ordinance. Introduction and first

533
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,400
reading of ordinance number 190, an
ordinance of the city of Amodore,

534
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:35,440
California, amending the municipal code
to establish through truck to spellings

535
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:41,040
restrictions within city limits
consistent with California vehicle code

536
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:45,280
section 35701.
This will be a first reading and this is

537
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:51,200
a draft. Second reading and passage will
be at the regular city council meeting

538
00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:56,319
Tuesday 7 of July. If passed, ordinance
190 would take effect after 30 days or

539
00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:02,880
when appropriate signage is in fa in
place. And the uh attachment here is

540
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:09,599
ordinance 190. Let me pull down to part
of that. Anyway, we can wave the full

541
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:14,319
reading. I'm scrolling scrolling. Here
we go.

542
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:20,160
Um, the purpose of the ordinance is to
enhance traffic safety. Um, and it's

543
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,599
stated in there, reduce roadway
maintenance costs, preserve the

544
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:29,440
residential and historic character of
Main Street by prohibited prohibiting

545
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:35,359
the use of Main Street by trucks
exceeding 10,000

546
00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:40,880
pounds or five tons gross weight.
um consistent with the requirements of

547
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:46,720
California vehicle code and it does
state in there on the next section very

548
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:51,200
clearly that what the definitions are
commercial truck through traffic the

549
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:56,800
restricted street is main street city
limit to city limit so this is

550
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:00,079
minimizing through traffic that is not
doing delivery that is not

551
00:45:58,891 --> 00:46:06,400
[clears throat] doing business within
the city of Amador city so so delivery

552
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:11,599
trucks buses School buses, ambulances,
fire trucks, moving vans, etc. that are

553
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:18,000
doing business and deliveries within the
city limits and using Main Street are

554
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:23,760
not restricted. It is through truck
through truck traffic that is using Main

555
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:28,880
Street as sort of a shortcut up into the
county area and into Setter Creek. In

556
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:36,079
the mornings, there's a fair amount of
rumbling of them. And uh this was one of

557
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:41,680
the traffic calming recommendations.
An ordinance is available for public

558
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:49,359
comment for a cons you know uh for
postings and uh we will with approval

559
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:56,720
post it have public comment on it in
July and then uh vote on approving it.

560
00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:03,440
It will not take effect for 68 day for
65 days after that. I have one addition

561
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:08,800
or one wording I'd like to add to this
draft version

562
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:13,760
and it is under section three that is up
here just for clarification. Restricted

563
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:19,760
street is main street city limit to city
limit. Section three states as except as

564
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:24,560
otherwise I'll read here so it carries
provided in section four it is unlawful

565
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:30,960
for any person to operate drive any
commercial vehicle using Main Street to

566
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:37,040
enter I would like to insert an exit
city limits for a dur a duration outside

567
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,800
destination outside city limits. So that
does not preclude

568
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,640
the
trucks that need to go to the ranches

569
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,720
and use water street. They enter main
street and then use water street. They

570
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:54,640
come from the ranches, use water street
and then exit main street. It is

571
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:59,599
entering main street exiting main street
from city limit to city limit using Main

572
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:05,359
Street. Does that addition those two
words you know if the it's approved add

573
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:11,200
clarification? If so, we can add that in
the motion to approve posting and

574
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:15,680
gaining public input on this ordinance.
So, first questions go to city council.

575
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:21,200
Then we go to the public for the first
comment. We do need to wave reading the

576
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:26,400
entire ordinance though if you want to
or we can read the entire ordinance.

577
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:30,240
So, is there a motion to either read the
ordinance or to wave reading of the

578
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,680
ordinance?
>> Motion that we wave reading.

579
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,240
» Motion's made to wave reading of the
entire ordinance by Cheryl. Is there a

580
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:42,319
second?
>> I second.

581
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,680
» He second. So, uh, roll call. Steve.
>> Hi.

582
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:44,800
» Bruce.
>> Hi.

583
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:48,000
» Nico.
>> Hi.

584
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:56,079
» Okay. Motion is approved to wave reading
of the ordinance. Uh, 4 01.

585
00:48:53,040 --> 00:49:00,520
And, um, now discussion. Any comments
besides the addition of those two words?

586
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:14,240
» Yes. I I had a thought. I mean, on the
section six on the fine, it says

587
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:18,000
punishable by base fine $500 for first
violation, but it doesn't say anything

588
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,920
about what happens on subsequent
violations.

589
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,559
» Remove word first.
>> Okay.

590
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:30,400
» Okay. Another edit. Remove the word
first under fine.

591
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,240
I can scroll down to that right there.
So,

592
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,960
» that was my own.
>> Thank you.

593
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:42,720
So with that, any comment? Elena,
>> I just have a question if

594
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:46,640
law enforcement received this
>> to give their opinion about how they

595
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,000
would enforce it and what, you know,
what the unintended consequences might

596
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,400
be.
Um, I reviewed our potential law

597
00:49:52,160 --> 00:50:01,040
enforcement contracts and our past ones
for local policing and they all indicate

598
00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:07,359
that they will adhere to any ordinance
that is within our MUN code um and for

599
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:12,319
for local enforcement which would
include traffic falls under local

600
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:18,079
policing enforcement.
>> Right. My question was, have you reached

601
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:21,839
out to law enforcement to have them read
this to see if there's anything that

602
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,680
they would recommend
>> changing, putting it in, including, you

603
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,559
know, just based on their experience
elsewhere? No,

604
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,839
the process is the reverse

605
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:48,000
» Gary because of the um enforcement is
going to be pretty tough to do. Is was

606
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:53,599
there a way that um or anything
instrumental to be able to identify

607
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:57,599
those commercial vehicles and and maybe
send a letter to the owners to let them

608
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:03,119
know put them on notice that
>> they've been seen doing this and that it

609
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:07,680
is violation of city ordinance and we
should continue because it's going to be

610
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:11,680
it have a stance for just a sheriff's
deputy or CHP driving behind somebody

611
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:15,680
and following through and witness the
whole thing to

612
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:19,440
» be able to force I'm just trying to
think of a way to be able to to if

613
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,680
there's a company that's doing this all
the time, maybe it's

614
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:27,520
» the laundry mat that's coming through
here all the time in Southern Creek or

615
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:32,960
somebody some other trucking company and
then being able to identify them and and

616
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,920
» it would is a good point like G like
Gary, but um again the enforcement would

617
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:44,000
only be within our city limits and that
would be solely our with whom with

618
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:47,000
whomever we have a local policing
contract.

619
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:55,440
» A little bit
>> number one in section

620
00:51:52,480 --> 00:52:00,079
five, it says there have to be signs on
the beginning on both sides of town

621
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:04,400
indicating no through trucks. I would
suggest adding the words no through

622
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:08,640
trucks over 10,000 lb because other
trucks are and and the interpretation

623
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:13,280
that I read of the general what
constitutes a violation if there if any

624
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:18,079
truck is making a stop for you know a
commercial stop within town they are not

625
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,760
violating the ordinance the fact that
they leave town after doing what they

626
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:24,319
have to stop here that's categorically
okay

627
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:27,599
» the way it's written right now
>> yes

628
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:32,960
» and and the signage requirement is
required for enforcement until the signs

629
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:36,000
go up, you can't enforce the the
ordinance. That's one of those two

630
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:40,400
things.
>> And I have run this by our city engineer

631
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:44,160
and the city engineer that said they're
getting the approval for signage in the

632
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:48,079
county because there has to be adequate
warning before they enter city limits

633
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:54,000
because there's no turnaround.
>> So, uh getting it within the county from

634
00:52:51,040 --> 00:53:00,640
the approach from the south is not
really a problem. getting the approval

635
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:05,680
from CALR because of Highway 49 will
take time. So this is this is not

636
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:09,599
something that is going to be in place
um

637
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:16,079
» no it's going to take time. Working with
CALR is um a lengthier process

638
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:21,839
because again those signs have to be up
with good warning for trucks.

639
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:27,200
And again this is a first read. This is
not up for approval tonight. The only

640
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:32,960
approval is to
approve the the additions to the draft,

641
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:37,599
the crossing off of the word first for
violation, the addition of end exit

642
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:43,040
under section three, and to then post it
and have it printed in the paper for

643
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:48,400
within 15 days.
So that is the only approval for this

644
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,400
evening is to post it properly within 15
days.

645
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,200
Bless you.

646
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,880
Okay.

647
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:44,119
Is there any other deliberation over
this? Any other questions from council?

648
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:25,920
Okay. Do you have any questions?
>> No questions.

649
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:32,880
» Okay. Okay. Is there a motion to with
the with the edits to post have it

650
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:38,000
posted in the newspaper in 15 days?
>> I have a second reading in July.

651
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,440
» I can't make a motion like that.
>> So moved.

652
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:49,760
» Susan would
>> I know I know technically. Okay. So we

653
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:56,240
have a motion from Bruce to make the
edits to post it in the newspaper, have

654
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:59,599
it a posted in town and be available for
public comment in July and a second

655
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,400
reading.
>> I second.

656
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,040
» Second from Steve.
>> Okay, we have to do roll call vote

657
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,160
again. Steve
>> I

658
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:06,960
» Bruce
>> I.

659
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,760
» Nico.
>> Hi.

660
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:16,319
» Motion is approved
41.

661
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:25,079
Thank you. We're on to I res uh regular
agenda items. Resolution number 649. Let

662
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:25,079
me go down to that.

663
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:34,960
Okay. Oops. General fund. I'm going
down. I've got numbers wrong in mine. I

664
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:41,280
don't know about everybody else.
Resolution number 649.

665
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:45,839
um is a resolution of the city council
of Amador approving the raising of the

666
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:51,040
commemorative pride flag in recognition
of pride month. Discussion and possible

667
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:57,119
action regarding displaying the pride
flag in June to honor LGBTQ plus history

668
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:02,400
and affirm the city's ongoing commitment
to fostering an inclusive and welcoming

669
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:07,119
community. The attachment is the
resolution.

670
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:11,520
Um the process for doing a regular
agenda item and we'll go through that

671
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:17,119
process tonight is to first have
questions taken by council members

672
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:20,319
regarding this item. Then questions for
council members and comments will be

673
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:26,319
closed. So you'll go to the public for
general comment and questions and

674
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:29,359
discussion. Then that public comment on
this agenda item will be closed and

675
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:34,640
it'll come back to council for
deliberation.

676
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:39,520
So with this c with this this reading I
think it's important to point out that

677
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,520
one of the questions that often comes up
is about what constitutes a

678
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:48,400
commemorative flag and it's when it's
been designated a commemorative flag by

679
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:53,359
either our state or our federal
government. The pride flag was

680
00:57:51,119 --> 00:58:01,520
designated a commemorative flag by the
state of California June 17th in 2019.

681
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Pride uh has been designated uh June has
been designated as pride month

682
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:10,400
commemorating Stonewall protests and is
recognized as such by the federal

683
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:16,799
government beginning in 1999.
So the pride month of June was

684
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:22,880
designated 1999. The flag was recognized
as a commemorative flag in 2019.

685
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:29,520
Um and
within the wherefors and wise there is

686
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:35,599
clear designation that any commemorative
flag is flown below the US flag. The US

687
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:40,079
flag has to be larger than or at least
equal in size to any commemorative flag

688
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:44,799
that is flown such as the P
commemorative flag that's on the flag

689
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:48,720
pole outside of post office. And the US
flag must be the first raised and the

690
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:53,200
last lowered. So the respect and
etiquette of the US flag is always

691
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:58,400
protected with any commemorative flag.
And it does state the process for any

692
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:03,760
individual wanting another commemorative
flag to be recognized by the city. An

693
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:08,160
individual comes to city council member.
A council member may take up that bring

694
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:13,680
a resolution to council. Council would
vote on it. So in the future, that's the

695
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:19,920
process. That was the process for this
time with this resolution.

696
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:23,200
Um questions to council about this
resolution.

697
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,480
Steve,
>> I would just like to inquire if there's

698
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,559
been any comments from the business
community from Amador City.

699
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:35,440
» This is their opportunity and not yet.
>> There have been nothing in writing since

700
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:40,559
» No, there was no written public comment
from them and um we'll find out if

701
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:42,880
there's public comment tonight.
>> Thank you.

702
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:50,160
» Mhm.
Any questions from council about the

703
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:52,880
resolution or one to another?
>> Nico,

704
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:58,079
» um what are some other cities that have
adopted the

705
00:59:54,319 --> 01:00:02,880
» Oh, well in California
I I only know from family, friends, and

706
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:10,319
my personal experience. Pasadena, Walnut
Creek, Nevada City, uh San Francisco,

707
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:14,000
County of LA, uh Sacramento, County of
Sacramento,

708
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:19,680
um Honolulu,
um Lancing, Michigan,

709
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:23,119
uh Salt Lake City, Utah,
um Massachusetts, what?

710
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:29,040
» Stockton,
>> Stockton,

711
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:33,359
and uh New York City. Capital of New
York. Capital of W. Madison, Wisconsin.

712
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:36,880
Trying to think of where else I have
family.

713
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:44,799
Um
I I've run out of family. [laughter]

714
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:50,357
So th those are those are ones I I you
know I they know of. Oh, Providence,

715
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:56,640
Rhode Island. My cousin lives there.
[laughter]

716
01:00:51,680 --> 01:01:00,640
Kela Pre, right? Um, so
any other questions?

717
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:05,760
We close questions of council. We open
it up to public comment. You're on.

718
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:09,040
» Hey. All right.
Um, well, I'll stand.

719
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:13,599
» Okay.
Um, I don't have anything formally

720
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:20,079
prepared, but I just we came to um in
support of resolution 649.

721
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:25,280
Um, I can speak as a former um 11-year
elementary school teacher here in Amber

722
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:31,520
County. um of
sixth graders um having so many students

723
01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:36,000
and helping them along their path and
just um talking a lot about symbols and

724
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,760
talking a lot about the flag and just
like tonight I'm really proud that one

725
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:45,200
of our kids got up and was able to honor
our symbol and the symbol represents all

726
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:52,480
of us. Um, but the pride symbol also
does represent us and um, as two Texas

727
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:56,960
transplants here in Amador County, um,
sometimes it feels like we're not that

728
01:01:53,760 --> 01:02:01,280
far from Texas and it can be it can be
hard and it feels really good to be here

729
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:06,720
in Amodore County and feel like all
three of our kids can have two moms and

730
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:11,119
we're safe here. It it's really special.
So, um, we just purchased our first

731
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:15,520
house together in Amadar City, and
that's why we're here is because we

732
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:21,280
feel, um, that this is a community that
really honors, um, not just our gay

733
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:24,799
community, but really honors everybody.
And that's to me, I mean, we just read

734
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:29,359
the we have a little story book about
the Pride flag and Harvey Milk and how

735
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,520
he founded that, but it's not just for
gay people. It's for everybody. And that

736
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,880
everybody um should have the same
rights. And I wish more people saw the

737
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:41,680
flag like that. It's not just some
specific thing. It's like everybody

738
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:45,520
should be um embraced and given the
rights. So, I just I love the thought of

739
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:51,200
the pride flag flying next to the
American flag and that it's there's no

740
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:56,240
divisiveness there. We're on the same
team and um I just wanted to support it.

741
01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:01,760
And also, I'd just like to give a quick
round of applause for our children that

742
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:07,040
have been the most patient city council
>> I know audience ever

743
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:12,319
tonight. You guys are more well behaved
than many grownups. Thank you.

744
01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:16,799
» Thank you for staying by.
>> Okay. Well, I'm glad you're all I'm glad

745
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:22,440
everybody's here and children are always
welcome and will be of dogs, but you

746
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,440
know

747
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:30,160
» and thank you for doing the pledge.
>> So, thank you Amanda. Any other public

748
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:36,160
comment tonight?
>> I just have a question. Are there other

749
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:39,559
cooperative plans that LC raises?
>> Not a one.

750
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,799
» There's never been a request.

751
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,240
» This is the first.

752
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:54,799
» Any other public comment? Gary,
>> you were talking about the city

753
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,240
businesses and I think if you look at
the flags on the street, you see like

754
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,640
half of the city businesses approve it
and half of them don't. Um, you're

755
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:06,400
looking at the flags on private would
rather just if you want to represent a

756
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:10,480
flag that represents everybody is put
the American flag up like some of the

757
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,760
businesses have
>> Mhm.

758
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:18,799
» up there.
>> I think the flags are put up by property

759
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:21,680
owners, Gary. They're not city flags,
but thank you.

760
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,760
» I'm just pointing out if you drive up
Look, it's

761
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,720
» private property.
>> Businesses don't have it.

762
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:31,559
» That's private property. You
>> ask the question.

763
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:31,559
» Thanks. Any

764
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:40,264
other public comment tonight?
Public comments closed. We'll come back

765
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:43,839
for deliberation.
[snorts]

766
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:47,280
Any other deliberation tonight?
>> Any comments? [laughter]

767
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:51,440
» Is that any comments?
>> No, I'm fine with me.

768
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:57,760
» Yeah.
>> Well, no comment. Um I uh I don't

769
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:03,599
disagree with the intent and uh
certainly the city council has the

770
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:07,000
authority to approve this resolution if
so be it.

771
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:17,520
» Any other comment discussion tonight?
Well, we do we have a motion to uh

772
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:20,640
approve resolution number 649.
I'll make a motion that we approve

773
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:24,000
[laughter]
>> resolution

774
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:28,640
» resolution 649.
>> Do we have a second?

775
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:34,799
» A second.
>> Motion to approve resolution 649 made by

776
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:38,799
Bruce Cheryl, seconded by Nico. Uh we
will do roll call vote again. Steve

777
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:42,319
» abstain.
>> Bruce.

778
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:50,480
» I
um motion is approved. 301.

779
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:54,799
No. Which abstain next? Three is you got
it. [laughter]

780
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:59,680
One absent, one abstain. Thank you.
Thank you, Nico. We have item five, the

781
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,960
proposed draft budget. We're skipping. I
know you need to get to your family and

782
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,070
you came here from vacation.
>> I left him in the forest.

783
01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:07,520
» You left them in the forest without
[laughter]

784
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,760
protection.
>> Save them.

785
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:15,440
» Okay. I make motion that we excuse Mr.
Amberelli. Is there a second? I can't

786
01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:19,839
make it. Can somebody make a motion that
we excuse Mr. Amberelli.

787
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:21,839
» I'll make a motion we excuse Mr.
Amberelli.

788
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,000
» I'll second it.
>> Okay.

789
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:27,039
» Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Bye.

790
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:34,960
» Okay.
>> Thank you. Took one for the team.

791
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:38,760
» Okay. Thank you for being here.
>> Okay. Good job.

792
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:58,839
No, they didn't need a motion.
>> They're gun. Okay.

793
01:06:55,839 --> 01:06:58,839
Hi.

794
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,880
» Um, no.

795
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:19,440
» Okay. Right.
Maybe I won't be till July.

796
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:25,359
The next item on the agenda is SB1
projects in California Assembly Bill 413

797
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:29,119
intersection daylight law. And actually,
I'm going to go up to the agenda after

798
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:33,599
this item. So, excuse us.
>> I'm sorry. What about

799
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,640
» we take that off the agenda?
>> Yeah. Thank you.

800
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:40,400
» Thanks.
>> Yep. [laughter]

801
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:46,559
Shorten the meeting, right? Okay. Okay,
I'm going back up to the agenda

802
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:51,000
and
okay, here we go.

803
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:59,520
Okay, there we go. Um, there are two
parts to this. Part A and part B. Both

804
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:04,240
of these involve uh discussion and
possible action regarding the following

805
01:08:01,839 --> 01:08:09,200
projects and cost estimates for projects
focused on traffic calming and basic

806
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:13,599
safety for pedestrians, cyclists, and
vehicles.

807
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:18,880
The first is for Senate Bill 1 uh
projects that were submitted for 2526.

808
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:23,040
Now, of the six projects that were
submitted, three of them have been

809
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:26,960
completed already. The report is due at
the end of this month. So, we're

810
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:31,279
squeaking through with the last of the
projects, which require a certain type

811
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,960
of weather in order to be completed. You
had to wait for the rain and for the

812
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:40,159
temperature to be right. And so, this is
the right time for it. And these are

813
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:45,520
repainting crosswalk markings on O'Neal
Alley and Main Street. Uh that

814
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:50,319
intersection, the two crosswalks there
and at the intersection of Ion Valley

815
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:56,799
Road or God's Hill and Main Street.
People refer to that intersection with

816
01:08:52,000 --> 01:09:01,359
both road names. Um and I'm adding from
the city parking lot to the west side of

817
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,640
Main Street. That traditionally went to
the brewery, but you know, without it

818
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:10,000
being a business, I didn't know what to
call it. So that would be three city

819
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:15,199
crosswalks. We have estimates from the
um engineer on the cost for that. They

820
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:22,799
are paid by Senate Bill one monies that
the state gets every year from gas tax.

821
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:29,120
Um there used to be a lot more gas tax
available to cities and with the advent

822
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:33,679
of so many EV EV vehicles and uh
efficient cars, the gas tax that's been

823
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:38,560
available for road repair and
maintenance has been diminished greatly.

824
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:44,960
So our state government put in place
various Senate bills to get money to

825
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:50,719
municipalities and counties called SB1
for those projects. So this money is

826
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:56,400
state money that we get every year, a
small portion of which um and it goes

827
01:09:53,520 --> 01:10:01,440
largely towards things like um street
markings, stop sign markings last year

828
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:06,320
and crosswalk markings this year. So
that's one project and we just need to

829
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:12,320
approve the engineering costs really so
we can go forward the bidding for that.

830
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:17,600
The second part B is California Assembly
Bill 413 and it was a traffic calming

831
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:21,840
measure that came up. It prohibits
drivers from parking within 20 ft of

832
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:26,640
approach on the approaching side of any
marked or unmarked crosswalk, mitigating

833
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:31,520
blind spots near intersections and
improving visibility between pedestrian,

834
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:36,800
cyclists and drivers. This took effect
in January of 2025. It is a state law.

835
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:42,239
It is already in place. It is
implemented. The issue is that curbs are

836
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:47,280
not necessarily painted. No parking for
that 20 ft or if it's inappropriate to

837
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:52,400
paint the curbing, just sign no parking
between signs.

838
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:56,960
This is um those signs do not have to be
there. The red curb doesn't have to be

839
01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:02,800
there, but the law still exists that
there's no parking 20 ft from a

840
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:08,800
crosswalk. So, it's a question of do we
want to do that? We have cost estimates

841
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:13,920
for painting. We don't for signage, but
that's a small chart cost. And the two

842
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:18,560
spots would be the west side of Main
Street adjacent to the crosswalk at Ion

843
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:24,400
Valley Road. So that would be in front
of what was the Merkante, what is now

844
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:29,760
the the the golf um establishment, just
20 ft from that crosswalk.

845
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:35,440
And that would need to be painted or no
parking signs there. the other spot and

846
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:40,000
I put down the north side of Water
Street adjacent to the crosswalk at Main

847
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:46,000
Street, it could equally be the south
side because coming around that that

848
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:49,520
corner from a southern approach on Main
Street,

849
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:55,600
if someone parks very close to that
crosswalk, there's very poor visibility

850
01:11:53,120 --> 01:12:00,480
and the cars, it's a blind turn. and the
cars parked within that 20 ft um are in

851
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:05,040
danger of it are often in danger of
getting clipped or rear ended. It's a

852
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:12,239
narrow street and a blind turn. It could
be one side or the other we talk about.

853
01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:18,770
I want to go back to SB1 first.
Um now we've reviewed those. I'm going

854
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:23,520
to zip on to the engineering estimates
[snorts]

855
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:26,520
and ah I'm done it now. Right. Come
back.

856
01:12:26,719 --> 01:12:33,560
What have I done? I froze it. I got
text. Here we go.

857
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:41,679
I'm much better on the Mac. This is
Bruis's computer.

858
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,840
Which I'm not used to. Sorry. Oh, I did
it again.

859
01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:56,880
Almost there. resolution and the
engineering for what he made up. Here we

860
01:12:54,239 --> 01:13:01,360
go.
So, we have two Oh, I also have two

861
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:05,920
kinds of crosswalk. I asked him to
estimate. One is the simple line on

862
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:10,000
either side of the crosswalk. The other
is doing what's referred to as

863
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:14,320
continental crosswalk, zebra crossing or
the lading. There is more visibility

864
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:20,320
with the lading
there, but there is higher cost of the

865
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:25,520
lading. So, um there's the two cost
estimates. These include painting the

866
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:29,840
red curb
and all the intersections me mentioned

867
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:37,440
that needed it. Um and painting the
crosswalks mentioned that need it. Um

868
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:41,280
so, we first go to council for questions
on these items or questions on the

869
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:44,640
projects.
Do we have the money?

870
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,719
» Well, the SB money is all we get that
from the state. We have that money.

871
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:50,320
» We have that
>> and we do have additional street money

872
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,120
and I know we didn't review the budget,
but yes, our street money is pretty

873
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:56,320
healthy.
>> The reason the street money is pretty

874
01:13:54,719 --> 01:14:01,360
healthy is because they are restricted
funds that can only be spent on street

875
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:06,560
and road repair. They involve state
monies that are given to us, specific

876
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:11,600
line items, and that money can only be
spent on road repair and maintenance or

877
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:15,280
projects such as this.
>> Yes.

878
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:19,600
» What's mobilization?
>> Mobilization

879
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:25,440
involves the construction cost, hiring
somebody to do it.

880
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:30,560
We got to put it out to bid.
And yes,

881
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:38,080
» uh I tend to uh veer toward the higher
cost only because uh some of the traffic

882
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:42,400
is uh uh comes down the road pretty
quickly and so the more visible the

883
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:46,800
crosswalk is I think the better it is
for all.

884
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:52,159
» I didn't mention this also includes the
ped xing detail that would be on the

885
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:58,000
approach to that but your point's well
taken. It is much higher visibility.

886
01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:03,920
Yes. Um, any other question or comment
on the projects

887
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:10,960
before we we leave this questions or
comments on the water street which does

888
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:17,760
not have to be done by the SB by the
daylight um law that that assembly bill

889
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:24,280
but it provides
communication to the general public

890
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,280
about where to park, where not to park.

891
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:32,480
It seems advantageous to have it all
done at once.

892
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:35,679
» It does. One construction crew.
>> Cheaper.

893
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:40,159
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. We do all three of them.

894
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:43,120
» Do you have any any question? We We'll
come back for deliberation. We'll also

895
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:50,760
go to public. [clears throat] But do you
have any questions on whether Water

896
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:50,760
Street, Southside, North Side?

897
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:58,239
» Not at this time. Yeah.
>> Okay. We'll come back for deliberation

898
01:15:54,239 --> 01:16:00,880
on that. So, we open to to public
comment on this.

899
01:16:00,817 --> 01:16:05,520
[snorts]
>> Gary,

900
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:12,239
Water Street is a is a problem to park
there now. So, I mean, is it has there

901
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:17,280
been issues with pedestrians
crossing there and almost getting hit by

902
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:24,159
cars coming through there? I mean, is it
necessary to do it because of the issues

903
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:28,080
with the post office parking and and the
fire hydrant that's down there?

904
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:34,222
» Fire hydrant. Good point. The fire
hydrant is on that south side. That is

905
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:36,080
one restriction that's usually ignored.
[laughter]

906
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:39,120
» Yes, but [clears throat] you're right.
That is there.

907
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,840
» Is it absolutely necessary to do it
because of all the other issues that are

908
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:47,440
going on here?
If I could remind the council that we

909
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:52,880
had almost identical conversation about
fire hydrants and the new law that went

910
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:58,719
into effect in January about parking
restrictions around fire hydrants. and

911
01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:04,719
we talked at length and the issues that
um that I know I expressed I believe uh

912
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:10,400
another business owner expressed as well
was a um it's hard enough to have a

913
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:15,920
business in this town and taking away
more parking is really unfriendly to

914
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:21,199
business. Um the second biggest issue is
that there is no enforcement anyway. So

915
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:26,480
you could put a the law is the law with
with or without signs. And so

916
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:29,440
people are going to do what they're
going to do and there's nobody to tell

917
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:35,280
them not to do it.
>> All right? That's just the facts. And

918
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:38,640
so, you know, do I want every the entire
curb in front of my business to be no

919
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:42,640
parking?
>> It's 20 ft from the crosswalk only.

920
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:46,960
» It's 20 ft from the crosswalk, but we
also we also have two fire hydrants

921
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:51,440
there, too. So why would you do it then
for crosswalk and not fire hydrant? You

922
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:57,679
didn't do it for fire hydra for all the
the same reasons. And so you know again

923
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:01,760
I'm just saying there also I I'm
guessing if Susan was here she might

924
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:06,159
also bring up the longstanding concern
that people have had about the

925
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:12,400
aesthetics of having sign after sign
after sign after sign on our main

926
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:18,159
street. Um, that's been a a a subject
that's been brought up before

927
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:22,719
» and so I am fully in favor of restriping
crosswalks. I think that's a good thing.

928
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:26,080
But because we don't have the
enforcement,

929
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:29,640
painting all the curves you want isn't
going to change anything

930
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:40,480
» and it's just another business
unfriendly move that you know is is

931
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:46,400
challenging. Mhm. Um, I want to remind
you that we deferred to the

932
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:51,600
the only one who can really designate a
fire lane and who can design make things

933
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:57,280
around the fire hydrants and Dominic
declined to do so. And so with that, the

934
01:18:55,199 --> 01:19:00,320
city council had nowhere to go on the
concern of that one fire hydrant.

935
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,199
» So,
>> but there it was that one fire hydrant,

936
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:07,199
but if you did it for that one, you're
going to do it for the one in front of,

937
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:11,840
you know, at at Water Street. There's
one in front of Moon Rice Pizza. They're

938
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:16,719
they're kind of all over. And so then,
you know, there's it's just becomes a

939
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:22,000
» I mean, there's going to be no apartment
town and it's already difficult.

940
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:25,520
» Okay.
And to get back to SB1, which is already

941
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:30,719
a state law,
>> right? Doesn't change anything, right?

942
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,800
So, somebody's parked right at the
crosswalk and we happen to have law

943
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:39,040
enforcement in town, they can ticket it,
no problem. sign or no sign, curve or no

944
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:44,840
curve.
>> So that the signs and the curves don't

945
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,840
really give you anything.

946
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:54,320
» Any other public comment on this item?
>> That public comment is closed if it

947
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:59,520
comes back for deliberation.
>> So you're talking about a red red zone

948
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:04,239
on the south side of water.
>> We couldn't do red zone there because it

949
01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:11,199
is bridge brick. So, it would have to be
no parking between signs if we decided

950
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:14,199
southside warranted some control of that
nature.

951
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:22,480
» I say that let's do the crosswalk and
forget the red.

952
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:25,920
» Okay. At Water Street or at
>> God's Hill as well.

953
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:30,080
» All three of them. Well, well, no, we
need to do red

954
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:34,040
for the daylight.
>> That is daylight also.

955
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:48,280
Well, but it's the approach
coming down. So that it' be the red

956
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:48,280
would be on the bridge.

957
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:58,120
» That's why we can't paint red. It'd be
no parking between sign.

958
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:58,120
on the fence side.

959
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,520
» Okay.

960
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:17,280
But you know the question is
this is

961
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:21,440
these don't have to be approved as a
block.

962
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:25,840
You may decide it's warranted. Council
may decide there may be a motion that is

963
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:31,040
warranted on the west side of Main
Street

964
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:35,679
at the approach to the crosswalk.
It's not warranted on Water Street. It

965
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:40,239
doesn't have to be a block decision.
Does that make sense?

966
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,800
» Okay.
I think up there is really important.

967
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:47,760
» That one is
>> especi Well, and just getting the

968
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:52,400
crossroads painted be a big help.
>> Well, that's SP one. That's SB1. And

969
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:54,960
that's done. Those are our projects. We
have to get them done or lose the money.

970
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,960
» Let's do those.
>> Yeah. [laughter]

971
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:04,480
Well, so let's then let's look at the
two. We can decide to let's look at

972
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:08,480
them. SE SP1. We've already voted. I
mean, that was a we had a resolution to

973
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:13,520
approve these projects a year ago. So,
it's really now a matter of we're going

974
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:19,440
forward with the cost. We need to go out
for bid because it's over $5,000.

975
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:24,239
So, SB1 is not act. We don't need to act
on that one. The only one we need to act

976
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:27,440
on aside from approving going out for
bid. I'm sorry. We have to approve going

977
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:31,840
out for bid and then I'll get back to
the engineers on that. So, let's deal

978
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:36,400
with that one right now. Do we approve
going out for bid to do the crosswalk

979
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:40,159
markings and the pedestrian ex the
pedestrian? Let's make a motion in that

980
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:46,800
regard.
>> Yes. If I may, uh I move to uh uh

981
01:22:44,719 --> 01:22:55,040
approve SP1
um in regards to um uh the uh scope of

982
01:22:52,000 --> 01:23:00,800
work and cost
>> for option one or option two.

983
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:07,280
» I'm looking at option one, which seems
to be uh unanimously uh

984
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,400
Oh. Oh, I see what you're referring to.
Yes. Okay. Um uh it's irrelevant to me,

985
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:18,159
but I think more visibility is good. So
I would go option two in regards to

986
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,800
subsection 6A here. SP1.
>> SP1. Okay.

987
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:26,800
» Second.
>> Okay. We'll do roll call vote. Steve

988
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:32,480
» Bruce.
>> Okay. Motion is approved.

989
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:39,760
» Okay. What exactly was the motion?
Motion was to approve going out for bid

990
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:44,520
for the SB1 projects using option two
continental crosswalk.

991
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,520
» Okay.

992
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:53,840
» It was approved three.
You know the numbers.

993
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:58,239
301
302.

994
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:01,520
» So it was Mr. Ta who made the motion and
Mr. Cheryl. [clears throat]

995
01:24:00,639 --> 01:24:06,880
» Yes. Yes.
>> Yes.

996
01:24:03,679 --> 01:24:11,600
» Okay. Then with regard to California
Assembly Bill 413, this again was part

997
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:16,400
of traffic calming. We've had a couple
meetings about this that this is a

998
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:22,400
traffic calming measure. It enhances
pedestrian safety. Do we want to proceed

999
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:27,400
with marking in any way, shape, or form
a required 20 foot no parking zone

1000
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:37,000
at either or both or neither of the two
streets mentioned?

1001
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:46,880
» Maybe we could revisit this in the
future, but I uh I sense no need to move

1002
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:52,639
on it uh at this time. Then our cost
estimates will be this would be involve

1003
01:24:49,440 --> 01:25:00,159
a different cost estimate and again
another engineering contract

1004
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:04,080
» higher expense. Okay. So we are
tableabling this which means we won't

1005
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:08,639
revisit that.
Then Bruce

1006
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:12,880
» you have you
>> I I hate to spend money we don't need to

1007
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:17,199
spend. [laughter]
I really do. I mean either

1008
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:25,760
I mean, I think we should have the red
zone

1009
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:30,719
just prior to God's seal road
going south

1010
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:35,199
the other side. We can't do it. It's
dirt.

1011
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:39,120
» Think can we simply uh limit the motion
to that and go off the bid accordingly.

1012
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:44,000
Is
>> that one red stripe?

1013
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:48,000
» Is it not already included in your your
vote?

1014
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:50,239
Um, yes.
>> Yes.

1015
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:54,239
» Yeah. Red curb.
>> Yes.

1016
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:59,360
» Here it has 35
35 ft.

1017
01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:04,639
» Mhm. That would be if we did both. But
if we're not doing both, then it's we

1018
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:07,199
only go out to bid for reduced option
two. We

1019
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:12,480
» just do
the west side of God.

1020
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:20,960
» We need a motion to do that.
>> Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve

1021
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:24,400
5 ft of red line at Godzill
Road.

1022
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:26,560
» Okay. On the west side of Main Street.
>> And Main Street.

1023
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,920
» Okay.
>> Should call it Main Street.

1024
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:37,440
» Mhm.
>> Okay. There's a bit a motion to approve

1025
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:43,199
only doing red paint for the 20 ft uh
approaching the crosswalk at Ion Valley

1026
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:50,760
Road and on Main Street.
and revising auction two bid.

1027
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,760
We need a second.

1028
01:26:53,520 --> 01:27:02,120
» Guess not.
>> In the absence of of a second, this is

1029
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:02,120
tabled and will not be revisited.

1030
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:11,320
» Okay. Okay. So, we'll take off red
painted curb and we'll go forward on

1031
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:11,320
option two for items 1 through five.

1032
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:18,480
And
with that, we come to Amodore City's

1033
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:24,239
dump day. Discussion and possible action
regarding renting a dumpster for a

1034
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:29,440
weekend. Republic Services charges $689
for a 40yard dumpster with a Friday

1035
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:38,080
delivery. A Monday pickup. Excess weight
over one ton is built at $17125

1036
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:42,480
per ton. This is because um this is no
longer a free service that is provided

1037
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:46,320
to the city. So in the absence of that
and in response to questions about when

1038
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:53,440
is there a dump day, we looked into the
city pro procuring a dump dumpster.

1039
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:57,040
These are the costs and it will first
come to council then go to public

1040
01:27:55,120 --> 01:28:01,560
comment.
Aces used to give this to

1041
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,560
» Yes.

1042
01:28:02,635 --> 01:28:09,120
[snorts]
>> I have a question.

1043
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:14,159
» This is limited to residents within the
city limits. Correct.

1044
01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:19,040
» Or does it include the what I would call
the Amodore city community. In other

1045
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:26,080
words, people that have businesses here
but live right across the city line, so

1046
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:31,440
to speak. you raised a interesting point
that um I hoped we would have discussion

1047
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:38,320
over. This is using
uh public dollars, the public dollars

1048
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:44,239
that are within that are from property
taxes and other sources of revenue

1049
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:49,199
within city limits. Um it's not for
residences. This would be a situation

1050
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:55,360
where we would have to look at
appropriate use of public dollars and do

1051
01:28:51,440 --> 01:29:00,239
we make this open as the old one was for
wide community use or do do does the

1052
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:06,159
comm does the city need to put
restrictions over who can access it?

1053
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:12,320
That's a a question council will need to
discuss. Okay, one other followup

1054
01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:16,480
question that if uh if there's a
business owner uh they pay into the

1055
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:22,400
public fund for the city, correct? In
some form sales tax, but it's only 1% of

1056
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:24,000
sales tax revenue comes to the city.
>> Okay. So,

1057
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:26,639
» sales tax
>> small albeit but some.

1058
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:30,440
» Yes.
>> Thank you.

1059
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:30,440
» Mhm.

1060
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:37,040
» Any questions before we go to the
public? What

1061
01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:42,639
» do we want to do? That's that's another
question. So speak up.

1062
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:46,400
» It will come back to deliberation. So
you don't have to deliberate on it now.

1063
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:48,560
» Okay. Let's see what what's
>> okay.

1064
01:29:47,199 --> 01:29:53,280
» What you folks have to say.
>> Okay. So it goes to public comment.

1065
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:58,400
Amidor dump day.
>> I think it's great. My um question is

1066
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:05,920
how do we make sure we don't go too far
over if it's $160 per ton. How do we

1067
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:09,920
stop it from getting overloaded?
Does anybody know how many dumpsters

1068
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:14,800
we've used in the past? I mean, we did
close enough to know it's more than one.

1069
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:19,520
» Two. Some of them was three. I've seen
the three once.

1070
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:26,199
» Um, and so it's the same size.
>> 40 yards. I don't I don't know if they

1071
01:30:22,159 --> 01:30:26,199
they were 40 yard dumpsters.

1072
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,800
» Yeah,
>> they're pretty good size.

1073
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,840
» Yeah,
>> they're a good size. [snorts]

1074
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:37,000
» Yes.
>> You're going to need more than one. So

1075
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,000
budget

1076
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:47,600
» and um in the I want to re remind folks
that we aces delivered it in the morning

1077
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:52,400
came back if it was full delivered
another one and then at noon it was

1078
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:59,320
closed. So this will be delivered on a
Friday night with a Monday pickup.

1079
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,320
Who's going to monitor it?

1080
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:06,120
Who's going to check IDs?

1081
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:13,520
» Say one last thing.
>> In England, we we get to free as well.

1082
01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:16,960
Occasionally because if you don't give
people this ability, you'll start seeing

1083
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:20,880
fridges machines at the side of the
road.

1084
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:25,760
» Yes. Yes. That's the down that's the
main reason for having one. Yes.

1085
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:30,159
» I mean, I have a concern of it being
open all weekend.

1086
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:34,400
» As do I.
I have concern about Ian and me being up

1087
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:39,040
there saying, "Show me your electric
bill."

1088
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:43,600
» Does it have to be a weekend?
>> That that is there. Uh because ACES was

1089
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:47,040
local
>> and Republic Services is out of

1090
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:52,800
Stockton.
>> And so that is what restricts a weekend

1091
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:57,040
delivery and drop off.
>> Really?

1092
01:31:54,800 --> 01:32:00,800
» Like they couldn't do it on a Thursday
and pick it up Friday.

1093
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,880
We could ask.
>> I understand that they drop it off on

1094
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:11,679
Friday and don't want to come back until
Monday, but could it not be a weekday?

1095
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:14,880
» We can ask. That was that was what was
offered.

1096
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:17,280
» Okay.
Okay.

1097
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:22,960
» But, you know, they might say, "Well, we
can do that for this."

1098
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:27,600
» I had to shrink the window.
>> I really The window The window's

1099
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:32,960
problematic, vermin. [clears throat]
>> Yes.

1100
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:37,600
uh window's problematic. So, this would
probably be the issue with postponing

1101
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,800
until we know more is that we wouldn't
decide until July, which means it

1102
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:47,040
probably would be set up to the end of
July. But it that's that could be

1103
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:51,920
and I'm I'm deliberating and we haven't
closed. Is there any more public

1104
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:54,960
comment? I'm sorry. I forgot myself.
Okay, we'll come back to us for

1105
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:59,440
deliberation.
Now, I'll say what I was going to say.

1106
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:04,560
We could postpone decision on this with
and get the additional information and

1107
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:07,040
have it be on the agenda in July.
>> Okay.

1108
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:09,679
» And that would mean it just postpone
having establishing a date.

1109
01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:16,880
» Yeah.
>> Okay. And let's do that so we don't

1110
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:21,760
eliminate the possibility of having the
dumpster because I think the point's

1111
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:26,159
well taken. If we don't have that, then
things, you know, is accumulating in

1112
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:31,280
front yards and, you know, out in the
fields and so on. So,

1113
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:39,440
we're going to get additional
information and revisit it in July.

1114
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:46,679
» Okay. With that, we're on to reports and
um well, we are down to um Mr. Cheryl

1115
01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:46,679
first.

1116
01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:56,080
Well, at the museum board meeting today,
they had two, well, one request

1117
01:33:53,280 --> 01:34:01,600
assigned for the cemetery here on Main
Street.

1118
01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:08,480
And the other one is the museum is going
to donate $1,000

1119
01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:12,320
for the Powderhouse fundraiser.
>> Oo.

1120
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:18,880
Was the fundraiser successful?
>> Yes, very successful, I think. I mean,

1121
01:34:15,199 --> 01:34:22,880
we were the last count I had was 2,900.
>> So, with this 1,000

1122
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:28,000
» plus $1,000 from the museum,
>> you know,

1123
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,199
» I didn't hear that. The museum donated
$1,000

1124
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,440
» is
>> Yes.

1125
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:34,880
» to the counter house.
>> Yes.

1126
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:43,840
» Restoration.
>> And and at last count that I had, the

1127
01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:52,639
cash that we have taken in, it's $2,900.
So then the museum will make it 3,900

1128
01:34:48,320 --> 01:35:00,400
and there's still more to come. I mean
um Amador County Historical Society is

1129
01:34:57,679 --> 01:35:07,600
going to donate some money.
>> They haven't said how much. They're on a

1130
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:11,920
kind of a tight budget right now. Mhm.
>> With regard to the sign for the

1131
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:15,920
cemetery, I thought that was approved by
the historical society,

1132
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:21,040
» the committee.
>> It was a suggestion. Yeah, that's a

1133
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:26,639
follow. [cough] I don't know that any
action was ever taken on it.

1134
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:30,880
Okay, [snorts]
we'll follow up with that committee

1135
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:37,199
because they have not
used all of the money that was donated

1136
01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:41,679
or acknowledged it with Claudine yet.
>> I know.

1137
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:45,440
» Okay. So, anything else, Bruce?
>> Nothing.

1138
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:50,880
» Steve, anything you want to report?
>> Sure, I'd love to. on behalf of the

1139
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:56,639
Amberor County Veilological Society.
Again, thank you for the space. We had a

1140
01:35:53,040 --> 01:36:03,280
meeting. We maxed out this room. Um 40
is the max. We had standing room only

1141
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:09,520
and we had individuals come as far as
Mckelam Hill, Angel's Camp, I own

1142
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:17,920
Stockton, and Loi.
Uh it's remains my impression that we

1143
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:24,880
probably can do um 40 to 70 uh given the
right talk and the right presenter. Also

1144
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:29,920
there's a large interest in field trips.
Uh notably to learn more about the local

1145
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:35,920
mining history of Amador city and
community around it. Uh that being said,

1146
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:41,760
again, thank you on on the society's
behalf for the use of this space and

1147
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:48,719
maybe uh the renovated school will be
available down the road which would

1148
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:53,840
offer more square footage and uh let
them resume uh these meetings there.

1149
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:58,719
» You're going to have a conflict now
because you're going to have to vote on

1150
01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:05,360
the rental rates. [laughter]
>> You might have to recuse yourself.

1151
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:11,360
We have no officers, no membership list,
no blind laws.

1152
01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:15,760
» Oh, okay. Anything else?
>> Thank you very much.

1153
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:22,320
» Um, I heard from um I'll just do a short
report on here. I heard from Josh Mcuan,

1154
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:27,440
our property manager for the old grammar
school. We have tenants. One tenant will

1155
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:34,960
be signing a lease tomorrow, moving into
apartment B and moving in over the next

1156
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:39,679
two weeks. And the other tenants um are
um asking for a July 1st move in date

1157
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:45,440
and lease beginning because they have to
give 30 days notice. And um that's it's

1158
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:50,719
very reasonable, but they are very
qualified. It's a couple, so they'll be

1159
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:57,520
they are in apartment A and a gentleman
in apartment B. And uh so we have

1160
01:37:55,440 --> 01:38:02,000
revenue to look forward to in the next
year because we'll once again have

1161
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:05,840
tenants up there and we will be working
on the rest of the building going

1162
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:11,679
forward.
Um

1163
01:38:07,679 --> 01:38:17,280
nothing else to report at this
particular time. Um I'll reserve you

1164
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:21,440
know what I was going to say. Um and
we'll just move on.

1165
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:25,440
There are staff reports, any city
attorney report?

1166
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:29,840
» Not only to mention that I will be here
next month, but I will be out of the

1167
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:32,800
country for the meeting in August.
>> Got it.

1168
01:38:31,119 --> 01:38:36,320
» Yeah. And I don't know if you
>> Yeah.

1169
01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:40,080
» Okay.
Um and one I don't know if you got my

1170
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:44,239
email, Pat, but I want Can you stay a
few minutes to talk with me? Thanks. I

1171
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:46,480
appreciate that. And staff report.
Joyce,

1172
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:51,199
» I have nothing to report.
>> Nothing to report. Okay. Future agenda

1173
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:56,639
items. There are a couple things on the
list. The complete budget would need to

1174
01:38:53,360 --> 01:39:02,719
be approved in July. SB1 project list
for 2627 will be on the agenda for July.

1175
01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:08,480
We will also need to approve a
resolution to do micro trenching for the

1176
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:12,960
fiber optic cable that's coming from um
Volcano Communications. We're waiting

1177
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:16,639
first for before putting that on the
agenda until Sutter Creek votes whether

1178
01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:22,000
to approve it going through Sutter
Creek. If they do, it's logical for us

1179
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:27,119
to do so as well to just continue. If
they do not, it makes no sense for us to

1180
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:32,639
do it in isolation. So, they they vote
on it next week. We'll know more. Um,

1181
01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:40,400
I'm adding in
what was I adding in? Uh, the budget uh

1182
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:46,360
revisiting dump. So, let me add that.
Any other agenda items to add at this

1183
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,360
time?

1184
01:39:46,768 --> 01:39:52,560
» [clears throat]
>> There's plenty of time. Okay, with that,

1185
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:59,600
the meeting is adjourned. The next
regular meeting is July 7th at 6:00 p.m.

1186
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:03,600
here. Uh we're hoping to be possibly in
the community center, but I don't think

1187
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:06,760
we'll have Wi-Fi up there yet. So, thank
you all.

1188
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,280
Is it possible?

1189
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,480
I'm
>> sorry.

1190
01:40:22,239 --> 01:40:25,639
» There you go.

1191
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:41,199
» Thank you. Good night.
>> What the f originally looked like for

1192
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:41,199
the site. I missed by to see if it was

1193
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,840
You guys are both going to have to work
on projecting.

1194
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:47,199
» People can't hear you.
>> Yeah.

1195
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:51,880
» Okay.
>> Pretend you're giving a lecture.

1196
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,880
» I hear you.

1197
01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:57,560
» Say Cheryl's country. That's pretty
mean.

1198
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:04,960
» 15
post.

1199
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:10,679
» I think no after 59.
>> Okay. After 59. Okay. That's when there

1200
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:23,600
» in 2017 that was up in Oregon.
>> Yeah, that's what it looks like across

1201
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:27,280
» the whole Missouri 24. There was one
in my I was born in Illinois, so I went

1202
01:41:26,639 --> 01:41:30,159
to my cousin.
>> I was pretty excited when I saw that

1203
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:35,080
sign there.
>> Okay, go.

1204
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,080
» Go.

1205
01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:42,719
I left when I was seven years old.
>> Yeah. I left when I was 30 days old cuz

1206
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:45,920
my dad helped me call service.
>> I spent the rest of my

1207
01:41:44,639 --> 01:41:52,239
» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.

1208
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:54,560
If you need anything from me,
>> thank you.

1209
01:41:53,199 --> 01:41:59,600
» I don't know if this is off yet, but
let's make sure it is.

1210
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:07,440
» Oh, yes. I can do that.
Okay. I wait a little longer.

1211
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:11,119
Stop. Stop.
>> How much this little camera cost? Do you

1212
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:15,639
remember?
>> 100 bucks.

1213
01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:15,639
» Yeah.