[0:08] Great.
>> Is there something underneath it that's
[0:10] unrelated or No, I made two. Okay.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[0:15] [clears throat]
[0:23] Hit record.
>> What
[0:25] » did you hit record?
>> I did.
[0:26] » Okay. You didn't start broadcast. I hit
that a while ago.
[0:30] » Okay. Okay. Sweet.
>> Do you want to go check?
[0:34] » No.
>> If you're recording, you can always just
[0:37] upload it later.
>> Oh, I know. But you want to you want to
[0:41] go check?
>> Yeah, sure.
[0:44] » You got to go out.
>> Okay.
[0:50] Plug in my car. I'll be right back.
[1:00] You're a good teacher.
[1:09] » Okay.
>> Thank you very much.
[1:13] » Of course.
>> We're going to wait a moment for Pat
[1:20] plug in his car.
[1:26] That's what you're doing. Okay.
>> First thing,
[1:28] » I did a wellness check on her yesterday.
>> Yeah. Go.
[1:31] » Yeah. She's not looking great.
>> Oh, no.
[1:35] » She's She came to the gate.
[1:41] [clears throat]
[1:44] Okay.
Well, we will start. Pat will probably
[1:49] come in as we're getting going. We're
going to call this meeting to order.
[1:52] [clears throat] It is 6:03.
[snorts] Uh tonight we are going to be
[1:56] led in the flag salute by Seielson
Howry, a soon to be fourth grader.
[2:06] Please stand.
[2:15] » I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
[2:23] for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:30] justice for all.
>> Thank you, Filson.
[2:36] Okay, we'll do roll call and establish a
quorum. Council member Amberelli,
[2:41] » present.
>> Council member Braggstead,
[2:45] » absent. Susan has pneumonia and won't be
with us tonight. Council member Cheryl
[2:51] » here
>> and Staples. We have a quorum just
[2:55] barely. Nico's come back from vacation
in Pi Valley just so this meeting could
[3:00] continue. So, thank you, Nico.
Tonight, the first order of business,
[3:06] and the reason we need a quorum besides
shutting the door, thank you. Is to
[3:12] appoint a seating to the open seat on
city council because Melanie Ang um
[3:18] resigned. She moved to Sutter Creek and
because of change of uh jurisdiction,
[3:23] could no longer serve on council.
Tonight, we have um two letters of
[3:28] interest. one from Steven Ta and one
from James Monday. I want to state
[3:33] before going any further that I wish we
had two open seats on council because we
[3:37] have two highly qualified, very capable
individuals who would be of tremendous
[3:42] benefit to city council. And before
going further again, I want to remind
[3:48] folks this is a six-month appointment.
It is through December 26. In August of
[3:54] 26, there will be an election because in
January there will be three seats and
[4:00] there will be I hope James Monday and
Steven Ta who will both run for one of
[4:07] those three seats who in January
[snorts] can both be sworn in. Tonight
[4:12] it's one person. Um, I also owe an
apology because I had the agenda ready
[4:19] before James's letter of interest came
in and while I attached it, I did not
[4:25] change the introduction on the agenda
item. And James, I offer you the
[4:31] opportunity to say you would like to
postpone this until July because of my
[4:36] error.
>> I don't have any need for that.
[4:39] » Okay. Well, that's very generous of you.
Um, the process to fill the open seat is
[4:47] to read over and you're welcome to read
your own letters or they can be read
[4:51] from up here your letters of interest
and then council one at a time may have
[4:56] questions for you and then you know we
will deliberate and appoint someone to
[5:02] the position that any comment on that.
Um, so would you like to read your own
[5:09] letters? I have copies if you would like
to.
[5:14] » Great. Okay, Mr. Tessa as well.
[5:20] And we have a faux podium tonight
because this is a small room and often
[5:26] times it takes on the flavor of a living
room and sometimes during agenda items,
[5:32] one person will talk and someone else
will talk instead of the protocol of one
[5:38] person at a time. and an opportunity for
questions. So, uh, either stand or if
[5:45] you'd like to stand at the faux podium
and be on camera, you're welcome to do
[5:49] so.
>> So, Mr. Ta, if
[5:53] » you don't mind, I'll just sit. It's a
small room.
[5:55] » Boom. Okay. So, the microphone captures
everything in this echoey room.
[6:01] » Very good. Those read the letter uh
verbatim. Uh presented herein is my
[6:06] letter of interest and being considered
for the current vacant position on the
[6:10] city council as a result of the recent
resignation of city council member Miss
[6:15] Melanie Unquest. I have been a restor
city for over a year and my professional
[6:21] background would be well suited in
fulfilling this particular vacancy. As a
[6:27] professional engineering and
environmental geologist, I have
[6:31] participated in hundreds of public
hearings on behalf of clients and in my
[6:35] role as the executive officer of the
California State Planning and Geology
[6:39] Board from 2005 to 2016. In such roles,
I am very acquainted with the state
[6:47] administrative procedure act, the Brown
Act, and various codes pertaining to
[6:51] ethics and conflicts of interest. My
resume is attached. I believe my skill
[6:56] set would be complimentary and an asset
to that of existing council members. I
[7:01] appreciate your consideration of this
letter of interest. Thank you.
[7:05] » Thank you. I want to say that Steve
attached his 27page resume as well and
[7:11] um it is impressive and uh Mr. Monday, I
have no doubt that yours would be
[7:17] equally long [laughter] in your
architectural career.
[7:21] » Mine's longer than that. It just lives
on my website. Great.
[7:25] » Or equally.
>> There we go. No doubt about that. So,
[7:29] James, what would you prefer?
>> Uh, I'll read I'll read.
[7:34] » Okay. Got it up on the screen.
>> I may I may add a line or two. [snorts]
[7:38] Um, so, dear city council members, I'm
ready to express my interest in filling
[7:46] the vacant seat on the city council.
I'm 75 years old, so I meet the age
[7:53] requirements
[7:56] and I've resided within the city limits
uh of Amber City since in 2019
[8:04] and I'm a registered voter in city. I
regularly
[8:12] attend city council meetings and as a
practicing architect,
[8:17] I presented various projects to the
council over the past six years,
[8:23] including the tavern up on Main Street
and residents on last James.
[8:32] I've also served as a member of the
design committee for the past several
[8:37] years.
Through these experiences, I have gained
[8:41] familiarity with the municipal code and
city governments
[8:49] and I
assume and I welcome the opportunity
[8:55] to expand my engagement
through service on the city council.
[9:02] I'm confident that I am well qualified
to serve the residents of Angular City
[9:08] as a city council member.
For additional information about my
[9:13] qualifications
and background, please visit my website.
[9:18] That's where my resume and project.
I would only I just would like to add
[9:24] one thing. Um prior
[clears throat]
[9:31] Earlier in my career, I was an associate
architect with UC Davis
[9:39] and senior project manager where I
manage many million dollar projects. So,
[9:46] I'm not I should have put that in the
letter, but you know, budgets [snorts]
[9:50] and negotiations with um shareholders in
any given project is some something that
[10:00] I became very skillful at. Thank you for
your attention.
[10:05] » Thank you.
So,
[10:10] let's start with Mr. Ta. Do we have
questions for Steve?
[10:16] No, I think they're both qualified.
>> I know.
[10:23] » Highly qualified. It'd be lovely to have
two open seats
[10:27] » at this time.
>> Um I only have one
[10:33] you registered to vote in amer city.
>> I am now. I filled out the form about a
[10:37] week ago.
>> Okay.
[10:41] Any
[10:52] questions?
>> Um,
[10:55] [clears throat] I don't think so. I
guess uh do are you are either of you
[10:59] interested in conceding? Just cuz
there's two of you guys and all the
[11:04] races coming up here and
no December you'll be take the seat. So,
[11:10] November you'll be elected. I don't
know.
[11:12] » And did January be sworn in?
>> Sworn in. Yeah. January be sworn in. So,
[11:16] uh
>> Mhm.
[11:19] » I know you guys probably both had your
heart set on [clears throat]
[11:21] » Yeah.
>> being appointed, but um
[11:23] » yeah.
>> Okay.
[11:26] » Um
>> just thought I'd ask.
[11:30] » We only have
I'd like some uh as council member,
[11:36] potential council member. Um there's
very little
[11:43] that comes before us that is of approval
from the treasurer, but want to
[11:50] acknowledge that that would put a
council member on who's got a spouse
[11:55] also serving within city government. And
um there is a conflict of interest code
[12:01] that is taken pretty seriously and um
want to throw that out there.
[12:08] » Yeah. And I think that's u
that's understood and I will leave it to
[12:14] the council
uh council to address that
[12:20] appropriate time.
>> Pat, any comment on that?
[12:26] Can you give me the the specifics of the
potential conflict, please?
[12:30] » The city treasurer, our elected
appointed city treasurer serving the
[12:34] position through through December is
Lydia Ta,
[12:37] » Steve's wife.
[12:41] [snorts]
>> I am not I mean in terms of researching,
[12:44] I'd normally look do some legal research
online. I don't have time to do that.
[12:49] So, I'm not in a position to render an
opinion here. Um,
[12:55] So much [laughter]
[12:58] » yeah it's my impression if there's any
doubt then I would perceive it as a
[13:04] conflict of interest at this time.
>> Would you be comfortable if there's an
[13:08] issue from city treasurer that needs to
have approval from the board from the
[13:12] the council if you are appointed
recusing yourself from the issue.
[13:19] » I would take it's assurance on that.
Mhm.
[13:24] Okay. Any questions for James, Mr.
Monday?
[13:40] This is really, really challenging
because you both would be
[13:45] wonderful and have a lot to contribute
on city council and city council would
[13:49] needs people like you up here. It's hard
to get volunteers and um
[13:57] [snorts]
um [clears throat]
[14:02] we have applications that came in at
different times.
[14:07] We have
maybe an issue where a council member
[14:11] might have to recuse if there's an item
of from the treasurer that needs
[14:15] approval. So you have minor factors that
may weigh in. Any feelings about that?
[14:26] » Well, I mean
>> we're a small community.
[14:30] » Yeah, we're a small community. We're
usually fighting to get one.
[14:35] » Oh,
>> to come and now we have two.
[14:38] » I know.
>> Um like you said, I hope they just both
[14:42] are here in November so we can
Well, in August, end of August, the uh
[14:49] elections bureau puts out the ballots
or the, you know, the paperwork for
[14:55] potential candidates. And I hope you
both, regardless of who's appointed, I
[15:00] hope you both be interested
and serving
[15:04] many years, several years in January,
regardless of the appointment, because
[15:08] the appointments are six months and
then, you know, again, we'd have open
[15:13] seats. So
there'll be three openings in August and
[15:18] three deceit. Would
>> there be any advantage over one over the
[15:22] other for 6 months?
>> Two highly qualified people. It's really
[15:27] an interesting conundrum for us, isn't
it?
[15:30] » Yeah.
>> Flip a coin.
[15:32] » Do you have an opinion?
>> Uh, no. I mean, I like I said, I I
[15:37] encourage both of you guys to run and
and be elected and hopefully you can
[15:42] join us in January. And um
>> I mean, you're both extremely qualified.
[15:47] I I think like you know, Mr. Ta just has
a little bit more experience with public
[15:52] government governing bodies. So, that'd
be my one
[15:55] » thing is he maybe has a slight advantage
with experience, but like again, I think
[15:59] they can both join us in January
hopefully.
[16:01] » I know. I know. Fingers crossed on that.
Um,
[16:08] would you like to make a move for for
that or a move toward Bruce a move
[16:12] forward flipping a coin?
>> You both have come up with a solution.
[16:16] » Is there a coin flip? Is that a thing?
>> You can do that. We can do that.
[16:24] » It's up to you.
>> No, it's up to us.
[16:27] » It's up [laughter] to us. That's
>> okay. Collectively. Okay. Can we put it
[16:32] up to a vote?
Okay.
[16:34] » Popular.
>> Well, one or the other. One of you needs
[16:38] to make a motion for either for your
proposal or yours. So, one make a
[16:42] motion. I can't.
[16:47] Whatever you
[16:51] um
[17:01] uh at this point I think I'll I'll make
a motion for Mr. Tessa.
[17:05] [snorts]
>> Okay, I'll second it.
[17:08] » All in favor?
>> I
[17:12] I
>> motion's approved. 30
[17:16] James really want you to fill out those
election papers in August.
[17:22] Okay.
>> Well, I might
[17:26] » Oh, please do. Please do.
>> Uh, please do. Either way, we would have
[17:34] begged you and Mr. Ta hope you'll fill
them out in August
[17:38] » because this is for a six-month
appointment. [snorts]
[17:42] And before you can take the seat next to
Bruce with the empty name plate, we need
[17:47] Joyce to administer the oath to the
office.
[18:04] Okay,
raise your Let me let me get so I can
[18:08] hang on to something. raise your right
hand and repeat after me.
[18:13] » Okay. Um,
>> I, Steven Ta,
[18:17] » I, Steven Ta,
>> do solemnly swear or affirm
[18:21] » do solemnly swear or affirm
>> that I will support and defend the
[18:25] Constitution of the United States
>> that I will support and defend the
[18:28] Constitution of the United States
>> and the Constitution of the State of
[18:32] California
>> the Constitution
[18:34] Constitution of the State of California
>> against all enemies, foreign and
[18:39] domestic.
>> against all enemies, foreign and
[18:41] domestic. that I will bear true faith
and allegiance
[18:44] » I will faith true faith and can you
repeat
[18:50] » allegiance
>> in allegiance
[18:51] » to the constitution of the United States
>> the constitution of the United States
[18:56] » and the constitution of the state of
California
[18:59] » constitution [snorts]
of the state of California
[19:01] » that I take this obligation freely
>> that I take this obligation freely
[19:06] » without any mental reservation
>> without any mental reservations
[19:09] » or purpose of evasion
>> or purpose reputation.
[19:12] » And I will well and faithfully discharge
>> I will well and faithfully discharge
[19:17] » the duties upon which [clears throat] I
am about to enter.
[19:21] » the duties upon which I'm about to
enter.
[19:23] » Thank you very much.
if you don't mind signing right here.
[19:30] Yes.
[19:37] And um I gave you one from Can you give
that to me and I'll sign that and then
[19:44] that'll be your copy cuz I'm
This is a nice day.
[20:04] here.
[20:08] » I found
[20:20] you would just
And then
[20:23] that be okay.
>> Congratulations.
[20:28] » Okay, James.
>> I'll have to excuse
[20:35] be talking to you about
[20:38] » Thanks, James. Nice. Thank you.
[20:45] » Okay. Thank you. [laughter]
>> Thank you.
[20:50] We're now on to public comment. Uh, let
me get back to the agenda here. Excuse
[20:55] scrolling. I'm sorry.
[21:03] Directed public comment within the
agenda under provisions of the
[21:07] California count of of excuse me of the
California government code. Citizens
[21:12] wishing to address the council for any
matter not on the agenda and within the
[21:17] jurisdiction of the city of Amador may
do so at this time. Please limit
[21:22] comments to five minutes or less. Is
there any public comment tonight?
[21:28] Elena, your hand went up first.
>> Um, actually, I'll stand up. I have uh
[21:34] three things.
First is,
[21:41] and I think we've some of us have have
spoken about some of this. Um, as you
[21:46] know, we have a a new building that's uh
accessed off of West School Street. Um,
[21:52] there is no street sign uh indicating
that West that's West School Street. and
[21:58] we're having um issues with commercial
deliveries. Uh we know it's, you know,
[22:04] on Google Maps, but there needs to be a
street sign on the city property. So,
[22:11] this is the poll. The poll's there, but
there's no sign.
[22:14] » No sign.
>> Got it.
[22:17] » I'll take that. No, it's not in the I'll
take that to the engineer.
[22:21] » Yeah, it's a challenge for us right now.
Um, but I think our [snorts] coffee got
[22:27] delivered here.
>> Mhm. It did.
[22:28] » A couple weeks ago and uh
>> it was really smelled really good.
[22:32] » Yeah. I'm still trying to get the street
signs for our street addresses
[22:38] delivered. All right. Second thing is
again maybe Lydia and Steven are and and
[22:43] probably you guys too are very and you
are very familiar. Um uh you know the
[22:49] rain and the sun and the rain and the
sun and the rain and the sun are
[22:52] creating massive weeds still in the
cemetery and um I would like to see the
[22:58] city council uh take care of that as
soon as possible. I know Stephen and
[23:02] Lydia had a a rattlesnake situation. We
had a had babies like right around our
[23:09] kitchen. So we know they're there and
yeah. Well, and it's just scary because
[23:14] when the weeds are so high. So, that's
the second thing. And then the third
[23:19] thing, and you you guys might see this,
too. This is city hall at night at 10:00
[23:26] at night.
>> I don't know if maybe it's not on your
[23:30] side. The lights.
>> We're actually on Ember Creek Road now.
[23:33] » Oh, are you? Yeah, we're right across.
>> So, you're not still in town, but you
[23:37] guys might be able to see.
>> I do remember. Yeah, the lights. I mean,
[23:40] this is city hall at 10:00 at night. Um,
so it's a pretty pretty big nuisance.
[23:48] Um, it's not just the outside lights cuz
you'll also notice before the outside
[23:52] lights, we thought it was haunted
because there's the red exit signs are
[23:57] so bright that that's what you're seeing
is the exit signs. Um, so, uh, we would
[24:03] appreciate some attention to that matter
as well.
[24:07] » That one has been taken care of. We
don't have the answer yet.
[24:10] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Yep.
[24:15] » Thank you, Elena.
[24:21] » Any other public comment tonight?
>> Yes, I came again tonight. This is the
[24:27] fourth or so meeting on May the 5th.
Last city council on May 12th. I
[24:34] requested under government code 5946 if
I be and city council have a close
[24:41] session city council meeting. Um I
learned today from Mayor Staples that
[24:47] apparently supposedly a letter was sent
out um by supposed city attorney
[24:54] indicating that he didn't believe that
that was the right venue for
[24:59] whatever. Um, I'm a little confused
since during the last city council
[25:04] meeting I was kind of blocked off from
discussing some of the issues that I
[25:08] would have liked to. So, I'm kind of
curious as to how a conclusion was made
[25:15] in point about what I was going to talk
about um during that meeting
[25:19] specifically enough to say that it
wasn't the correct venue. I believe it
[25:22] is the correct venue.
>> I have the letter for you.
[25:25] » I can pick it up on the way. Um the
>> you're paraphrasing what I said and I'm
[25:30] not sure it's
>> I'm not paraphrasing. I'm just I'm
[25:34] drawing the conclusion that someone
concluded without the council meeting
[25:38] what it was that I was going to speak
about. Right. and that that might not
[25:43] have been it's it's curious to note that
since I wasn't able to speak how the
[25:49] assumption was made about exactly what
my approach was to let the city council
[25:53] know the reason I objected to the vote
which I I believe the vote is irrelevant
[26:00] anyways um to not abandon the street um
those are all opinions that I was going
[26:05] to share with city council and and
city's attorney um because the opposing
[26:12] ing argument is several and one of those
is that that move in itself would have
[26:18] made the entire transaction illegal
because I would have lost particular
[26:22] access to the property. So therefore, we
can't just split it down the middle
[26:28] which was part of the abandonment thing.
It's not going to work. Secondly, and
[26:32] most importantly, that's not what the
city council approved. They approved to
[26:36] quit claim. I've been told and I'm
paraphrasing
[26:41] slightly that the opinion of city
council is that it cannot be quit
[26:47] claimed. That is just factually wrong.
The city can
[26:53] quit claim public property to a private
owner under the conditions that it was
[26:57] voted on by city council. it was they
can avoid the public lands act or public
[27:04] I have written down if such a move
benefits the city including the city no
[27:10] longer having to maintain or repair such
property. All of those conditions have
[27:15] been met and the other condition would
literally render my lot unaccessible. So
[27:22] it would have been illegal anyways just
on the face. This is a problem. The city
[27:28] has agreed. [clears throat] I have
performed that's detrimental reliance
[27:34] and nothing's happening. So again on the
second part of this why this item was
[27:41] taken off of the agenda without
notification to me. These are two
[27:44] separate items. One is a special close
session with the city council. That was
[27:49] an attempt to from from me to approach
city council and city's attorney to
[27:55] avoid a lawsuit with the city at the at
the benefit of the city. That's the
[28:01] first thing. The item then being removed
from the agenda, which I don't think the
[28:05] two are test technically related, which
is why I kept it on the agenda, is kind
[28:10] of it's a little curious. I don't think
it was proper. I'm a little frustrated.
[28:17] I do not know if this is the intent of
the city council or city attorney or if
[28:22] it's just
unintentional negligence at this point.
[28:27] However, the law does not allow intent
or willful negligence to be separated.
[28:34] It's a problem. We need to resolve it
and that's why I'm here today. Also,
[28:39] because I thought it was on the agenda.
>> Thank you, Kevin.
[28:45] any recommendations on how we should
proceed?
[28:48] » I can read my letter into the record.
You've got a copy if you want that
[28:52] » and it contains a response.
I looked at this. [clears throat]
[29:05] » I need to give you the
>> I'll first explain the reason for the
[29:07] delay. I had email. The city has its own
letter head and I don't have that. I
[29:15] mean, normally I think something from
the city should be on city letterhead. I
[29:19] thought it had been emailed at some
point. I can't find it, Sandy. I don't
[29:22] know what to do at our mayor.
>> I emailed you to put it on your letter
[29:25] head.
>> Okay, got it. Anyway, so I did that and
[29:28] I I printed it out and redated a letter
today. Essentially, the letter said,
[29:35] "Dear Mr. James, the city council and
mayor had requested that I respond your
[29:39] public comments to the last council
meeting regarding the abandonment of the
[29:42] portion of O'Neal Alley which runs
across the property. The city has
[29:46] determined by communication with the
Amodore Water Agency that there are
[29:50] public utility easements in or under
O'Neal alley which would be affected by
[29:54] an abandonment of the alley by the city.
Streets and highways code section 8334.5
[30:01] provides as follows. Notwithstanding any
of the provision of this article, a
[30:05] street, highway, or public service
easement may not be so narrowly vacated
[30:09] if there are in place public utility
facilities that are in use and would be
[30:13] affected by the vacation. Because of
this, the city does not have and never
[30:18] had the authority to vacate O'Neal Alley
or that portion of it as a result of the
[30:23] above state law since those facilities
would clearly be affected by its
[30:27] vacation. And finally, the council
recently reconsidered the issue at a
[30:32] prior meeting and determined not to
vacate the street. Therefore, from the
[30:36] city standpoint, the matter is at an
end. And that that was my opinion in
[30:40] terms of that. I did not reference
8334.5
[30:44] previously because it I don't know that
I had information whether there were or
[30:50] were not uh public utility facilities,
either water or sewer pipes underneath
[30:57] it. It turns out later on we now have or
I now have this information that there
[31:02] were and consequently that with that law
as I interpret it is pretty clear by its
[31:08] own language that the city can't
summarily vacate [snorts]
[31:13] um if there were public facilities that
would be affected by the vacation. I
[31:19] know it's frustrating. I get that. I'm
aware of that. But I'm I'm just I
[31:24] addressed in this simply the legal
issues that I thought were important.
[31:27] » If I could respond. Um
the problem I have with the vacation is
[31:33] one vacation does not necessarily convey
title. It conveys fee interest and
[31:38] there's a big difference there and that
is not what I approached the city
[31:41] council originally about. I'm not asking
you to vacate an easement. That was
[31:45] never the question. I never motioned for
it. Secondly, as far as the water
[31:49] utilities that are under there, the
problem with the vote you guys held is
[31:53] that the water agency, and I have the
chain of emails between the mayor and
[31:57] the water agency, and in general, they
were general emails. I don't think that
[32:01] it was pointed specifically at the water
agency or any other utility. But what
[32:06] that email says is that we are, and I'm
slightly paraphrasing, we are
[32:11] considering abandoning our easements on
this section of O'Neal Alley. What it
[32:15] fails, which is either
intent or accidental negligence, is it
[32:23] fails to notify the water agency that a
grant a a deed public utility easement
[32:30] was included in what I have stated to
the city. Of course, I spoke with the
[32:35] engineer at the water agency regarding
that very same thing and his impression
[32:39] of the email was clearly that the intent
of the city was to completely abandon
[32:44] the easements which may have according
to the email and the codes that you
[32:49] listed even required him to move those
facilities. Thus the reason for his
[32:54] objection. So I understand where he's
coming from. So then I asked him, well,
[32:59] did they happen to mention in any form
during the council meeting or in any
[33:02] other email that I had already offered a
deed easement for public utility access?
[33:08] He said, "Nope. No one indicated that to
me." So whether that misrepresentation
[33:14] was intentional, and I'm not saying that
it was, or whether it was just
[33:17] accidental, it's a misrepresentation.
And thus, according to government code,
[33:22] that [clears throat] vote that you guys
held
[33:25] can be invalidated because did not have
the proper information.
[33:29] » He told me, and we were more
[clears throat] than willing, you know,
[33:32] happy to email him back, he doesn't
really care who owns the land as long as
[33:37] he has an easement to access his
utilities. That was my intention. I've
[33:42] agreed to that with everyone there. That
that should not have been an issue.
[33:46] Although you did properly notify the
utilities that was proper. They're just
[33:50] missing a major piece of information.
and public comment can't have can't
[33:56] involve any action from council. So I
appre I just I appreciate you sharing
[34:02] » and at this point Pat we cannot take any
action. So what do you recommend is our
[34:06] next step an agenda item a close session
item or something else?
[34:11] » I can address the prior request for a
close session. You can't have a closed
[34:15] session that involves one member of the
public and no others. It could only
[34:18] involve the council members and staff
which can include the city attorney and
[34:23] the uh other staff. I sometimes that
would include city engineers that sort
[34:28] of [clears throat] thing. We have held
close sessions in that regard. But you
[34:31] can't have a member of the public
present and exclude everybody else. I
[34:36] didn't request it to exclude everybody
else.
[34:38] » No, I'm just saying that it's not a
closed session.
[34:41] It's it's like pregnant. You either is
closed you either are closed or you're
[34:45] not. There's no uh I mean the public has
to it has to be done in open session or
[34:50] closed session. So you're saying you
requested a close session with the city
[34:53] council that that was not possible under
the ground act.
[34:57] » So clo So
what's [clears throat] your
[35:01] recommendation now to have this be an
agenda item?
[35:04] » Council wants to
reconsider. I don't remember the month
[35:10] or several months ago where the council
took a vote and voted not to vacate the
[35:17] public utility easement on whatever
grounds that decision was made at that
[35:21] time. If the council wishes to
reconsider that decision, it can be
[35:25] agendaized and that is certainly within
your pleasure to do that. But it'll have
[35:29] to be done at a at an agendaized, you
know, a regular agenda item uh in at a
[35:35] future meeting. you have to get that as
a council question and you can't do that
[35:40] or not.
>> Um
[35:47] [clears throat]
[35:49] there's no point in making a decision on
whether to put it on an agenda item
[35:55] without
having the information
[36:01] that Mr. Jennings wants to share with
council. That certainly shouldn't be
[36:05] exploited.
>> That would be an agenda item
[36:08] » from the water agency in terms of their
willing
[36:11] » all that all of that documentation. It
cannot be hearsay and report. It has to
[36:15] be the actual documentation that council
can and the public can look at and make
[36:20] decisions on
>> because that would change my opinion in
[36:23] this letter. If the if the water agency
is not that is not the point we we we
[36:30] would need all of that. How do we get
all of that information to have in an
[36:34] agenda packet?
>> Yes.
[36:36] » At the willingness of Mr. Jennings or
[36:42] » Well, the the yourself, Madame Mayor,
sets the agenda or the council has
[36:48] suggestions, but as to what goes on
future agendas, that is one of the
[36:53] responsibilities of your office.
>> I know. And that's why close session was
[36:57] not on this time. It was my decision. So
that based on my conversations with you,
[37:02] we make that decision. But we cannot
have an agenda item based on well, let's
[37:07] take another vote. We need the
documentation to say is another vote
[37:11] warranted. Was this indeed an error?
>> Which will need to be researched
[37:16] obviously with information that Mr.
Jennings may have, the council may have.
[37:21] It may be in the record somewhere, maybe
in the water agency record. I don't
[37:24] know. So
>> we the Okay. So again, and and
[37:31] this is why I'm here. We're still
here. The only way that an abandonment
[37:38] can work is if the city abandons and I
run in and quit claiming them or the
[37:44] city then quit claims it. All that is
unnecessary.
[37:47] And that is not again what the city
previously agreed to do. And [snorts] it
[37:52] still does not convey title. And that
that is one of my objections. We're
[37:57] still stuck on this abandonment thing
and that that is I'm trying to
[38:06] » how do I say this?
>> The car has been steered by others in
[38:11] this past year.
>> Let's not do that.
[38:13] » And I'm trying to repoint the car in the
direction that it was supposed to be
[38:17] going. Abandonment is not what I'm
asking for. It's not what the city
[38:21] agreed to. and I have performed what the
city agreed to and the city is not.
[38:28] » And I'm going to I'm going to stop us
because again, we're in public comment
[38:31] and we're getting into a dialogue and
has gone much too far on that. So, at
[38:36] this particular time, there's not going
to be a decision made about putting this
[38:40] on as an agenda item. It will be noted
that you've made that request and that
[38:44] will be taken under advisement.
we will do due diligence in terms of
[38:50] it's on the agenda for what purpose
because at this point council has voted
[38:54] on a decision. So there has to be there
has to be a reason to put it back on. I
[39:00] will confer with council on that and
then we will go forward but there will
[39:05] not be a decision tonight about putting
it on.
[39:08] » I I would only like and and for Joyce to
put this on the record that I was on the
[39:13] agenda for tonight. No, you were not on
the agenda
[39:16] » last meeting. I asked
>> you made the request to be put on the
[39:20] agenda, but council makes a decision
about what goes on the agenda. You made
[39:25] a request and it was a request for a
closed session and then we found out we
[39:31] could not go to a closed session and so
it was not put on.
[39:35] » I just want to clarify and I'm not
trying to go back and forth here. I
[39:39] asked for a closed session regarding the
matters and that if those matters I
[39:44] asked to be placed on the agenda so that
it remained on the agenda. These are two
[39:47] separate things and if no resolution was
made during the the or conclusion was
[39:53] any kind of forward movement was made
during the special counsel meeting or
[39:58] nothing that would change what would be
on the agenda that could be put on the
[40:01] agenda. So I I feel that those are two
separate things and I just want to note
[40:07] that. Thank you.
>> It is two separate things.
[40:10] » Thank you. Is there any other public
comment this evening? It's an item on
[40:15] the agenda or not on the agenda?
>> On the agenda.
[40:18] » You don't speak now.
>> But I don't speak now.
[40:21] » This is only for items not on the
agenda.
[40:24] » I think we might be timing out. So
>> I know I can't change that.
[40:28] » Oh, no. No, I don't change it. But
>> anything's welcome.
[40:32] Um,
so any other public comment this evening
[40:38] on matters not on the agenda and within
the jurisdiction of city council? Public
[40:43] comment is closed. We're going to go to
approval of city council regular meeting
[40:48] agenda for this evening. There is one
change already. Item five, proposed
[40:53] draft budget for 2006 27. This is only
going to be the general fund. In
[40:59] reviewing it today, I found errors and I
don't want to go into discussion on
[41:04] those this evening. I want us to vote on
an accurate proposed budget agenda. So,
[41:10] I'd like to have that removed. I'd like
any motion to approve the agenda to
[41:15] include with the withdrawal of item
five.
[41:20] » Thank you, Kevin.
>> Thank you, guys. Have a nice night.
[41:28] So,
[snorts]
[41:34] so that's for approval of the regular
meeting agenda for tonight.
[41:40] » I move for approval.
>> Second.
[41:44] » So, uh we um actually I was in error. We
are being video recorded and we have an
[41:50] absence tonight. So, we do need to do
roll call. I am really sorry. So we'll
[41:54] do start at your end. Steve, you made
the motion.
[41:58] » I didn't hear Nico. Thank you.
>> Mr. Ta made the motion. Nico second.
[42:04] Okay.
>> So Steve, roll call vote.
[42:11] » Steve Ta.
>> Yeah. I Bruce
[42:14] » I.
>> Nico
[42:15] » I.
>> Motion is approved for uh one 401.
[42:22] Thank you. Sorry about that. I missed
that earlier. Consent agenda items. All
[42:27] matters listed under the consent
calendar are to be considered routine by
[42:30] city council may be enacted in one
motion in the form listed. Any item may
[42:36] be removed for separate discussion and
possible action and made part of the
[42:40] regular agenda at the request of a
council member. The two items are the
[42:44] regular meeting minutes of May uh 2026
and the financial reports.
[42:50] There is a correction for the financial
report. In the binders was um a paper
[42:56] with a corrected sewer budget and the
original did not include the revenue for
[43:00] the month of May. [laughter] So that's
corrected in there.
[43:07] » Oh, [clears throat] did I skip the
ordinance?
[43:12] » No.
>> No. Okay. Next. Okay. Next.
[43:17] So,
[43:23] this would be um and I have the numbers
wrong there with our minutes and then
[43:27] the financial statement.
Is there any take them together or is
[43:32] there a motion to pull one of them out
for discussion?
[43:39] » Make a motion to approve.
>> Nico made a motion to approve. Is there
[43:43] a second?
>> Second it. There's a motion to consider
[43:47] the consent agenda as one unit and to
approve it. And there's been a second.
[43:51] We do roll call vote. Mr. Ta.
>> Bruce.
[43:56] » I.
>> Nico.
[43:57] » Hi.
>> Motion is approved. 401. Thank you very
[44:00] much.
>> Mr.
[44:04] » Is that correct?
>> 302.
[44:06] » I didn't hear you.
>> Yeah.
[44:07] » So 302.
>> 3011.
[44:14] Okay. Steve, you're going to have to
project. Echo your room here.
[44:19] Okay. Next item on the agenda is an
ordinance. Introduction and first
[44:23] reading of ordinance number 190, an
ordinance of the city of Amodore,
[44:28] California, amending the municipal code
to establish through truck to spellings
[44:33] restrictions within city limits
consistent with California vehicle code
[44:37] section 35701.
This will be a first reading and this is
[44:42] a draft. Second reading and passage will
be at the regular city council meeting
[44:47] Tuesday 7 of July. If passed, ordinance
190 would take effect after 30 days or
[44:53] when appropriate signage is in fa in
place. And the uh attachment here is
[44:59] ordinance 190. Let me pull down to part
of that. Anyway, we can wave the full
[45:06] reading. I'm scrolling scrolling. Here
we go.
[45:11] Um, the purpose of the ordinance is to
enhance traffic safety. Um, and it's
[45:18] stated in there, reduce roadway
maintenance costs, preserve the
[45:21] residential and historic character of
Main Street by prohibited prohibiting
[45:26] the use of Main Street by trucks
exceeding 10,000
[45:31] pounds or five tons gross weight.
um consistent with the requirements of
[45:37] California vehicle code and it does
state in there on the next section very
[45:43] clearly that what the definitions are
commercial truck through traffic the
[45:48] restricted street is main street city
limit to city limit so this is
[45:54] minimizing through traffic that is not
doing delivery that is not
[45:58] [clears throat] doing business within
the city of Amador city so so delivery
[46:03] trucks buses School buses, ambulances,
fire trucks, moving vans, etc. that are
[46:09] doing business and deliveries within the
city limits and using Main Street are
[46:14] not restricted. It is through truck
through truck traffic that is using Main
[46:21] Street as sort of a shortcut up into the
county area and into Setter Creek. In
[46:26] the mornings, there's a fair amount of
rumbling of them. And uh this was one of
[46:32] the traffic calming recommendations.
An ordinance is available for public
[46:38] comment for a cons you know uh for
postings and uh we will with approval
[46:46] post it have public comment on it in
July and then uh vote on approving it.
[46:54] It will not take effect for 68 day for
65 days after that. I have one addition
[47:00] or one wording I'd like to add to this
draft version
[47:06] and it is under section three that is up
here just for clarification. Restricted
[47:11] street is main street city limit to city
limit. Section three states as except as
[47:17] otherwise I'll read here so it carries
provided in section four it is unlawful
[47:22] for any person to operate drive any
commercial vehicle using Main Street to
[47:26] enter I would like to insert an exit
city limits for a dur a duration outside
[47:34] destination outside city limits. So that
does not preclude
[47:39] the
trucks that need to go to the ranches
[47:42] and use water street. They enter main
street and then use water street. They
[47:46] come from the ranches, use water street
and then exit main street. It is
[47:50] entering main street exiting main street
from city limit to city limit using Main
[47:56] Street. Does that addition those two
words you know if the it's approved add
[48:02] clarification? If so, we can add that in
the motion to approve posting and
[48:07] gaining public input on this ordinance.
So, first questions go to city council.
[48:14] Then we go to the public for the first
comment. We do need to wave reading the
[48:18] entire ordinance though if you want to
or we can read the entire ordinance.
[48:24] So, is there a motion to either read the
ordinance or to wave reading of the
[48:28] ordinance?
>> Motion that we wave reading.
[48:32] » Motion's made to wave reading of the
entire ordinance by Cheryl. Is there a
[48:35] second?
>> I second.
[48:37] » He second. So, uh, roll call. Steve.
>> Hi.
[48:43] » Bruce.
>> Hi.
[48:44] » Nico.
>> Hi.
[48:45] » Okay. Motion is approved to wave reading
of the ordinance. Uh, 4 01.
[48:53] And, um, now discussion. Any comments
besides the addition of those two words?
[49:07] » Yes. I I had a thought. I mean, on the
section six on the fine, it says
[49:11] punishable by base fine $500 for first
violation, but it doesn't say anything
[49:16] about what happens on subsequent
violations.
[49:19] » Remove word first.
>> Okay.
[49:22] » Okay. Another edit. Remove the word
first under fine.
[49:27] I can scroll down to that right there.
So,
[49:31] » that was my own.
>> Thank you.
[49:34] So with that, any comment? Elena,
>> I just have a question if
[49:40] law enforcement received this
>> to give their opinion about how they
[49:44] would enforce it and what, you know,
what the unintended consequences might
[49:48] be.
Um, I reviewed our potential law
[49:52] enforcement contracts and our past ones
for local policing and they all indicate
[49:57] that they will adhere to any ordinance
that is within our MUN code um and for
[50:05] for local enforcement which would
include traffic falls under local
[50:09] policing enforcement.
>> Right. My question was, have you reached
[50:15] out to law enforcement to have them read
this to see if there's anything that
[50:19] they would recommend
>> changing, putting it in, including, you
[50:24] know, just based on their experience
elsewhere? No,
[50:32] the process is the reverse
[50:39] » Gary because of the um enforcement is
going to be pretty tough to do. Is was
[50:45] there a way that um or anything
instrumental to be able to identify
[50:50] those commercial vehicles and and maybe
send a letter to the owners to let them
[50:55] know put them on notice that
>> they've been seen doing this and that it
[51:00] is violation of city ordinance and we
should continue because it's going to be
[51:04] it have a stance for just a sheriff's
deputy or CHP driving behind somebody
[51:09] and following through and witness the
whole thing to
[51:13] » be able to force I'm just trying to
think of a way to be able to to if
[51:17] there's a company that's doing this all
the time, maybe it's
[51:21] » the laundry mat that's coming through
here all the time in Southern Creek or
[51:25] somebody some other trucking company and
then being able to identify them and and
[51:30] » it would is a good point like G like
Gary, but um again the enforcement would
[51:36] only be within our city limits and that
would be solely our with whom with
[51:41] whomever we have a local policing
contract.
[51:47] » A little bit
>> number one in section
[51:52] five, it says there have to be signs on
the beginning on both sides of town
[51:58] indicating no through trucks. I would
suggest adding the words no through
[52:01] trucks over 10,000 lb because other
trucks are and and the interpretation
[52:06] that I read of the general what
constitutes a violation if there if any
[52:11] truck is making a stop for you know a
commercial stop within town they are not
[52:16] violating the ordinance the fact that
they leave town after doing what they
[52:19] have to stop here that's categorically
okay
[52:22] » the way it's written right now
>> yes
[52:24] » and and the signage requirement is
required for enforcement until the signs
[52:30] go up, you can't enforce the the
ordinance. That's one of those two
[52:34] things.
>> And I have run this by our city engineer
[52:38] and the city engineer that said they're
getting the approval for signage in the
[52:42] county because there has to be adequate
warning before they enter city limits
[52:46] because there's no turnaround.
>> So, uh getting it within the county from
[52:51] the approach from the south is not
really a problem. getting the approval
[52:56] from CALR because of Highway 49 will
take time. So this is this is not
[53:03] something that is going to be in place
um
[53:07] » no it's going to take time. Working with
CALR is um a lengthier process
[53:14] because again those signs have to be up
with good warning for trucks.
[53:19] And again this is a first read. This is
not up for approval tonight. The only
[53:24] approval is to
approve the the additions to the draft,
[53:31] the crossing off of the word first for
violation, the addition of end exit
[53:34] under section three, and to then post it
and have it printed in the paper for
[53:40] within 15 days.
So that is the only approval for this
[53:44] evening is to post it properly within 15
days.
[53:58] Bless you.
[54:02] Okay.
[54:37] Is there any other deliberation over
this? Any other questions from council?
[55:18] Okay. Do you have any questions?
>> No questions.
[55:23] » Okay. Okay. Is there a motion to with
the with the edits to post have it
[55:30] posted in the newspaper in 15 days?
>> I have a second reading in July.
[55:36] » I can't make a motion like that.
>> So moved.
[55:40] » Susan would
>> I know I know technically. Okay. So we
[55:46] have a motion from Bruce to make the
edits to post it in the newspaper, have
[55:53] it a posted in town and be available for
public comment in July and a second
[55:59] reading.
>> I second.
[56:00] » Second from Steve.
>> Okay, we have to do roll call vote
[56:03] again. Steve
>> I
[56:05] » Bruce
>> I.
[56:06] » Nico.
>> Hi.
[56:07] » Motion is approved
41.
[56:11] Thank you. We're on to I res uh regular
agenda items. Resolution number 649. Let
[56:20] me go down to that.
[56:27] Okay. Oops. General fund. I'm going
down. I've got numbers wrong in mine. I
[56:33] don't know about everybody else.
Resolution number 649.
[56:38] um is a resolution of the city council
of Amador approving the raising of the
[56:43] commemorative pride flag in recognition
of pride month. Discussion and possible
[56:48] action regarding displaying the pride
flag in June to honor LGBTQ plus history
[56:54] and affirm the city's ongoing commitment
to fostering an inclusive and welcoming
[57:00] community. The attachment is the
resolution.
[57:04] Um the process for doing a regular
agenda item and we'll go through that
[57:09] process tonight is to first have
questions taken by council members
[57:14] regarding this item. Then questions for
council members and comments will be
[57:18] closed. So you'll go to the public for
general comment and questions and
[57:23] discussion. Then that public comment on
this agenda item will be closed and
[57:27] it'll come back to council for
deliberation.
[57:31] So with this c with this this reading I
think it's important to point out that
[57:37] one of the questions that often comes up
is about what constitutes a
[57:41] commemorative flag and it's when it's
been designated a commemorative flag by
[57:46] either our state or our federal
government. The pride flag was
[57:51] designated a commemorative flag by the
state of California June 17th in 2019.
[57:58] Pride uh has been designated uh June has
been designated as pride month
[58:03] commemorating Stonewall protests and is
recognized as such by the federal
[58:07] government beginning in 1999.
So the pride month of June was
[58:13] designated 1999. The flag was recognized
as a commemorative flag in 2019.
[58:20] Um and
within the wherefors and wise there is
[58:26] clear designation that any commemorative
flag is flown below the US flag. The US
[58:32] flag has to be larger than or at least
equal in size to any commemorative flag
[58:37] that is flown such as the P
commemorative flag that's on the flag
[58:41] pole outside of post office. And the US
flag must be the first raised and the
[58:46] last lowered. So the respect and
etiquette of the US flag is always
[58:50] protected with any commemorative flag.
And it does state the process for any
[58:56] individual wanting another commemorative
flag to be recognized by the city. An
[59:01] individual comes to city council member.
A council member may take up that bring
[59:06] a resolution to council. Council would
vote on it. So in the future, that's the
[59:11] process. That was the process for this
time with this resolution.
[59:16] Um questions to council about this
resolution.
[59:21] Steve,
>> I would just like to inquire if there's
[59:24] been any comments from the business
community from Amador City.
[59:28] » This is their opportunity and not yet.
>> There have been nothing in writing since
[59:32] » No, there was no written public comment
from them and um we'll find out if
[59:37] there's public comment tonight.
>> Thank you.
[59:41] » Mhm.
Any questions from council about the
[59:47] resolution or one to another?
>> Nico,
[59:51] » um what are some other cities that have
adopted the
[59:54] » Oh, well in California
I I only know from family, friends, and
[1:00:00] my personal experience. Pasadena, Walnut
Creek, Nevada City, uh San Francisco,
[1:00:06] County of LA, uh Sacramento, County of
Sacramento,
[1:00:11] um Honolulu,
um Lancing, Michigan,
[1:00:16] uh Salt Lake City, Utah,
um Massachusetts, what?
[1:00:22] » Stockton,
>> Stockton,
[1:00:25] and uh New York City. Capital of New
York. Capital of W. Madison, Wisconsin.
[1:00:32] Trying to think of where else I have
family.
[1:00:35] Um
I I've run out of family. [laughter]
[1:00:40] So th those are those are ones I I you
know I they know of. Oh, Providence,
[1:00:47] Rhode Island. My cousin lives there.
[laughter]
[1:00:51] Kela Pre, right? Um, so
any other questions?
[1:00:58] We close questions of council. We open
it up to public comment. You're on.
[1:01:03] » Hey. All right.
Um, well, I'll stand.
[1:01:07] » Okay.
Um, I don't have anything formally
[1:01:10] prepared, but I just we came to um in
support of resolution 649.
[1:01:17] Um, I can speak as a former um 11-year
elementary school teacher here in Amber
[1:01:21] County. um of
sixth graders um having so many students
[1:01:28] and helping them along their path and
just um talking a lot about symbols and
[1:01:34] talking a lot about the flag and just
like tonight I'm really proud that one
[1:01:37] of our kids got up and was able to honor
our symbol and the symbol represents all
[1:01:41] of us. Um, but the pride symbol also
does represent us and um, as two Texas
[1:01:49] transplants here in Amador County, um,
sometimes it feels like we're not that
[1:01:53] far from Texas and it can be it can be
hard and it feels really good to be here
[1:01:59] in Amodore County and feel like all
three of our kids can have two moms and
[1:02:04] we're safe here. It it's really special.
So, um, we just purchased our first
[1:02:09] house together in Amadar City, and
that's why we're here is because we
[1:02:12] feel, um, that this is a community that
really honors, um, not just our gay
[1:02:19] community, but really honors everybody.
And that's to me, I mean, we just read
[1:02:23] the we have a little story book about
the Pride flag and Harvey Milk and how
[1:02:27] he founded that, but it's not just for
gay people. It's for everybody. And that
[1:02:31] everybody um should have the same
rights. And I wish more people saw the
[1:02:35] flag like that. It's not just some
specific thing. It's like everybody
[1:02:39] should be um embraced and given the
rights. So, I just I love the thought of
[1:02:44] the pride flag flying next to the
American flag and that it's there's no
[1:02:48] divisiveness there. We're on the same
team and um I just wanted to support it.
[1:02:54] And also, I'd just like to give a quick
round of applause for our children that
[1:02:58] have been the most patient city council
>> I know audience ever
[1:03:04] tonight. You guys are more well behaved
than many grownups. Thank you.
[1:03:10] » Thank you for staying by.
>> Okay. Well, I'm glad you're all I'm glad
[1:03:14] everybody's here and children are always
welcome and will be of dogs, but you
[1:03:19] know
[1:03:24] » and thank you for doing the pledge.
>> So, thank you Amanda. Any other public
[1:03:28] comment tonight?
>> I just have a question. Are there other
[1:03:33] cooperative plans that LC raises?
>> Not a one.
[1:03:39] » There's never been a request.
[1:03:45] » This is the first.
[1:03:50] » Any other public comment? Gary,
>> you were talking about the city
[1:03:53] businesses and I think if you look at
the flags on the street, you see like
[1:03:56] half of the city businesses approve it
and half of them don't. Um, you're
[1:04:00] looking at the flags on private would
rather just if you want to represent a
[1:04:04] flag that represents everybody is put
the American flag up like some of the
[1:04:09] businesses have
>> Mhm.
[1:04:10] » up there.
>> I think the flags are put up by property
[1:04:15] owners, Gary. They're not city flags,
but thank you.
[1:04:19] » I'm just pointing out if you drive up
Look, it's
[1:04:22] » private property.
>> Businesses don't have it.
[1:04:25] » That's private property. You
>> ask the question.
[1:04:27] » Thanks. Any
[1:04:33] other public comment tonight?
Public comments closed. We'll come back
[1:04:38] for deliberation.
[snorts]
[1:04:41] Any other deliberation tonight?
>> Any comments? [laughter]
[1:04:46] » Is that any comments?
>> No, I'm fine with me.
[1:04:49] » Yeah.
>> Well, no comment. Um I uh I don't
[1:04:54] disagree with the intent and uh
certainly the city council has the
[1:05:01] authority to approve this resolution if
so be it.
[1:05:07] » Any other comment discussion tonight?
Well, we do we have a motion to uh
[1:05:13] approve resolution number 649.
I'll make a motion that we approve
[1:05:20] [laughter]
>> resolution
[1:05:21] » resolution 649.
>> Do we have a second?
[1:05:27] » A second.
>> Motion to approve resolution 649 made by
[1:05:31] Bruce Cheryl, seconded by Nico. Uh we
will do roll call vote again. Steve
[1:05:37] » abstain.
>> Bruce.
[1:05:39] » I
um motion is approved. 301.
[1:05:46] No. Which abstain next? Three is you got
it. [laughter]
[1:05:51] One absent, one abstain. Thank you.
Thank you, Nico. We have item five, the
[1:05:57] proposed draft budget. We're skipping. I
know you need to get to your family and
[1:06:01] you came here from vacation.
>> I left him in the forest.
[1:06:04] » You left them in the forest without
[laughter]
[1:06:06] protection.
>> Save them.
[1:06:08] » Okay. I make motion that we excuse Mr.
Amberelli. Is there a second? I can't
[1:06:13] make it. Can somebody make a motion that
we excuse Mr. Amberelli.
[1:06:17] » I'll make a motion we excuse Mr.
Amberelli.
[1:06:20] » I'll second it.
>> Okay.
[1:06:22] » Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Bye.
[1:06:25] » Okay.
>> Thank you. Took one for the team.
[1:06:31] » Okay. Thank you for being here.
>> Okay. Good job.
[1:06:49] No, they didn't need a motion.
>> They're gun. Okay.
[1:06:55] Hi.
[1:07:06] » Um, no.
[1:07:10] » Okay. Right.
Maybe I won't be till July.
[1:07:15] The next item on the agenda is SB1
projects in California Assembly Bill 413
[1:07:23] intersection daylight law. And actually,
I'm going to go up to the agenda after
[1:07:27] this item. So, excuse us.
>> I'm sorry. What about
[1:07:31] » we take that off the agenda?
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[1:07:34] » Thanks.
>> Yep. [laughter]
[1:07:38] Shorten the meeting, right? Okay. Okay,
I'm going back up to the agenda
[1:07:44] and
okay, here we go.
[1:07:51] Okay, there we go. Um, there are two
parts to this. Part A and part B. Both
[1:07:56] of these involve uh discussion and
possible action regarding the following
[1:08:01] projects and cost estimates for projects
focused on traffic calming and basic
[1:08:07] safety for pedestrians, cyclists, and
vehicles.
[1:08:10] The first is for Senate Bill 1 uh
projects that were submitted for 2526.
[1:08:17] Now, of the six projects that were
submitted, three of them have been
[1:08:20] completed already. The report is due at
the end of this month. So, we're
[1:08:24] squeaking through with the last of the
projects, which require a certain type
[1:08:29] of weather in order to be completed. You
had to wait for the rain and for the
[1:08:33] temperature to be right. And so, this is
the right time for it. And these are
[1:08:37] repainting crosswalk markings on O'Neal
Alley and Main Street. Uh that
[1:08:42] intersection, the two crosswalks there
and at the intersection of Ion Valley
[1:08:47] Road or God's Hill and Main Street.
People refer to that intersection with
[1:08:52] both road names. Um and I'm adding from
the city parking lot to the west side of
[1:08:59] Main Street. That traditionally went to
the brewery, but you know, without it
[1:09:03] being a business, I didn't know what to
call it. So that would be three city
[1:09:07] crosswalks. We have estimates from the
um engineer on the cost for that. They
[1:09:12] are paid by Senate Bill one monies that
the state gets every year from gas tax.
[1:09:19] Um there used to be a lot more gas tax
available to cities and with the advent
[1:09:25] of so many EV EV vehicles and uh
efficient cars, the gas tax that's been
[1:09:32] available for road repair and
maintenance has been diminished greatly.
[1:09:35] So our state government put in place
various Senate bills to get money to
[1:09:41] municipalities and counties called SB1
for those projects. So this money is
[1:09:47] state money that we get every year, a
small portion of which um and it goes
[1:09:53] largely towards things like um street
markings, stop sign markings last year
[1:09:58] and crosswalk markings this year. So
that's one project and we just need to
[1:10:03] approve the engineering costs really so
we can go forward the bidding for that.
[1:10:09] The second part B is California Assembly
Bill 413 and it was a traffic calming
[1:10:15] measure that came up. It prohibits
drivers from parking within 20 ft of
[1:10:19] approach on the approaching side of any
marked or unmarked crosswalk, mitigating
[1:10:24] blind spots near intersections and
improving visibility between pedestrian,
[1:10:29] cyclists and drivers. This took effect
in January of 2025. It is a state law.
[1:10:35] It is already in place. It is
implemented. The issue is that curbs are
[1:10:39] not necessarily painted. No parking for
that 20 ft or if it's inappropriate to
[1:10:45] paint the curbing, just sign no parking
between signs.
[1:10:49] This is um those signs do not have to be
there. The red curb doesn't have to be
[1:10:54] there, but the law still exists that
there's no parking 20 ft from a
[1:10:58] crosswalk. So, it's a question of do we
want to do that? We have cost estimates
[1:11:06] for painting. We don't for signage, but
that's a small chart cost. And the two
[1:11:11] spots would be the west side of Main
Street adjacent to the crosswalk at Ion
[1:11:16] Valley Road. So that would be in front
of what was the Merkante, what is now
[1:11:20] the the the golf um establishment, just
20 ft from that crosswalk.
[1:11:27] And that would need to be painted or no
parking signs there. the other spot and
[1:11:33] I put down the north side of Water
Street adjacent to the crosswalk at Main
[1:11:37] Street, it could equally be the south
side because coming around that that
[1:11:43] corner from a southern approach on Main
Street,
[1:11:47] if someone parks very close to that
crosswalk, there's very poor visibility
[1:11:53] and the cars, it's a blind turn. and the
cars parked within that 20 ft um are in
[1:11:58] danger of it are often in danger of
getting clipped or rear ended. It's a
[1:12:02] narrow street and a blind turn. It could
be one side or the other we talk about.
[1:12:08] I want to go back to SB1 first.
Um now we've reviewed those. I'm going
[1:12:14] to zip on to the engineering estimates
[snorts]
[1:12:19] and ah I'm done it now. Right. Come
back.
[1:12:26] What have I done? I froze it. I got
text. Here we go.
[1:12:33] I'm much better on the Mac. This is
Bruis's computer.
[1:12:39] Which I'm not used to. Sorry. Oh, I did
it again.
[1:12:46] Almost there. resolution and the
engineering for what he made up. Here we
[1:12:54] go.
So, we have two Oh, I also have two
[1:12:59] kinds of crosswalk. I asked him to
estimate. One is the simple line on
[1:13:03] either side of the crosswalk. The other
is doing what's referred to as
[1:13:07] continental crosswalk, zebra crossing or
the lading. There is more visibility
[1:13:12] with the lading
there, but there is higher cost of the
[1:13:16] lading. So, um there's the two cost
estimates. These include painting the
[1:13:23] red curb
and all the intersections me mentioned
[1:13:27] that needed it. Um and painting the
crosswalks mentioned that need it. Um
[1:13:33] so, we first go to council for questions
on these items or questions on the
[1:13:39] projects.
Do we have the money?
[1:13:42] » Well, the SB money is all we get that
from the state. We have that money.
[1:13:46] » We have that
>> and we do have additional street money
[1:13:48] and I know we didn't review the budget,
but yes, our street money is pretty
[1:13:52] healthy.
>> The reason the street money is pretty
[1:13:54] healthy is because they are restricted
funds that can only be spent on street
[1:13:59] and road repair. They involve state
monies that are given to us, specific
[1:14:03] line items, and that money can only be
spent on road repair and maintenance or
[1:14:09] projects such as this.
>> Yes.
[1:14:12] » What's mobilization?
>> Mobilization
[1:14:17] involves the construction cost, hiring
somebody to do it.
[1:14:21] We got to put it out to bid.
And yes,
[1:14:27] » uh I tend to uh veer toward the higher
cost only because uh some of the traffic
[1:14:34] is uh uh comes down the road pretty
quickly and so the more visible the
[1:14:40] crosswalk is I think the better it is
for all.
[1:14:44] » I didn't mention this also includes the
ped xing detail that would be on the
[1:14:50] approach to that but your point's well
taken. It is much higher visibility.
[1:14:54] Yes. Um, any other question or comment
on the projects
[1:15:01] before we we leave this questions or
comments on the water street which does
[1:15:07] not have to be done by the SB by the
daylight um law that that assembly bill
[1:15:15] but it provides
communication to the general public
[1:15:19] about where to park, where not to park.
[1:15:26] It seems advantageous to have it all
done at once.
[1:15:30] » It does. One construction crew.
>> Cheaper.
[1:15:33] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. We do all three of them.
[1:15:37] » Do you have any any question? We We'll
come back for deliberation. We'll also
[1:15:41] go to public. [clears throat] But do you
have any questions on whether Water
[1:15:45] Street, Southside, North Side?
[1:15:51] » Not at this time. Yeah.
>> Okay. We'll come back for deliberation
[1:15:54] on that. So, we open to to public
comment on this.
[1:16:00] [snorts]
>> Gary,
[1:16:02] Water Street is a is a problem to park
there now. So, I mean, is it has there
[1:16:09] been issues with pedestrians
crossing there and almost getting hit by
[1:16:14] cars coming through there? I mean, is it
necessary to do it because of the issues
[1:16:20] with the post office parking and and the
fire hydrant that's down there?
[1:16:26] » Fire hydrant. Good point. The fire
hydrant is on that south side. That is
[1:16:31] one restriction that's usually ignored.
[laughter]
[1:16:35] » Yes, but [clears throat] you're right.
That is there.
[1:16:37] » Is it absolutely necessary to do it
because of all the other issues that are
[1:16:40] going on here?
If I could remind the council that we
[1:16:44] had almost identical conversation about
fire hydrants and the new law that went
[1:16:50] into effect in January about parking
restrictions around fire hydrants. and
[1:16:55] we talked at length and the issues that
um that I know I expressed I believe uh
[1:17:02] another business owner expressed as well
was a um it's hard enough to have a
[1:17:08] business in this town and taking away
more parking is really unfriendly to
[1:17:12] business. Um the second biggest issue is
that there is no enforcement anyway. So
[1:17:18] you could put a the law is the law with
with or without signs. And so
[1:17:25] people are going to do what they're
going to do and there's nobody to tell
[1:17:28] them not to do it.
>> All right? That's just the facts. And
[1:17:31] so, you know, do I want every the entire
curb in front of my business to be no
[1:17:37] parking?
>> It's 20 ft from the crosswalk only.
[1:17:40] » It's 20 ft from the crosswalk, but we
also we also have two fire hydrants
[1:17:44] there, too. So why would you do it then
for crosswalk and not fire hydrant? You
[1:17:49] didn't do it for fire hydra for all the
the same reasons. And so you know again
[1:17:54] I'm just saying there also I I'm
guessing if Susan was here she might
[1:17:59] also bring up the longstanding concern
that people have had about the
[1:18:03] aesthetics of having sign after sign
after sign after sign on our main
[1:18:08] street. Um, that's been a a a subject
that's been brought up before
[1:18:14] » and so I am fully in favor of restriping
crosswalks. I think that's a good thing.
[1:18:20] But because we don't have the
enforcement,
[1:18:24] painting all the curves you want isn't
going to change anything
[1:18:30] » and it's just another business
unfriendly move that you know is is
[1:18:37] challenging. Mhm. Um, I want to remind
you that we deferred to the
[1:18:44] the only one who can really designate a
fire lane and who can design make things
[1:18:48] around the fire hydrants and Dominic
declined to do so. And so with that, the
[1:18:55] city council had nowhere to go on the
concern of that one fire hydrant.
[1:18:59] » So,
>> but there it was that one fire hydrant,
[1:19:02] but if you did it for that one, you're
going to do it for the one in front of,
[1:19:05] you know, at at Water Street. There's
one in front of Moon Rice Pizza. They're
[1:19:09] they're kind of all over. And so then,
you know, there's it's just becomes a
[1:19:15] » I mean, there's going to be no apartment
town and it's already difficult.
[1:19:19] » Okay.
And to get back to SB1, which is already
[1:19:24] a state law,
>> right? Doesn't change anything, right?
[1:19:28] So, somebody's parked right at the
crosswalk and we happen to have law
[1:19:32] enforcement in town, they can ticket it,
no problem. sign or no sign, curve or no
[1:19:37] curve.
>> So that the signs and the curves don't
[1:19:40] really give you anything.
[1:19:44] » Any other public comment on this item?
>> That public comment is closed if it
[1:19:51] comes back for deliberation.
>> So you're talking about a red red zone
[1:19:56] on the south side of water.
>> We couldn't do red zone there because it
[1:20:01] is bridge brick. So, it would have to be
no parking between signs if we decided
[1:20:07] southside warranted some control of that
nature.
[1:20:14] » I say that let's do the crosswalk and
forget the red.
[1:20:19] » Okay. At Water Street or at
>> God's Hill as well.
[1:20:23] » All three of them. Well, well, no, we
need to do red
[1:20:28] for the daylight.
>> That is daylight also.
[1:20:39] Well, but it's the approach
coming down. So that it' be the red
[1:20:44] would be on the bridge.
[1:20:48] » That's why we can't paint red. It'd be
no parking between sign.
[1:20:54] on the fence side.
[1:21:03] » Okay.
[1:21:09] But you know the question is
this is
[1:21:15] these don't have to be approved as a
block.
[1:21:18] You may decide it's warranted. Council
may decide there may be a motion that is
[1:21:23] warranted on the west side of Main
Street
[1:21:28] at the approach to the crosswalk.
It's not warranted on Water Street. It
[1:21:33] doesn't have to be a block decision.
Does that make sense?
[1:21:37] » Okay.
I think up there is really important.
[1:21:42] » That one is
>> especi Well, and just getting the
[1:21:44] crossroads painted be a big help.
>> Well, that's SP one. That's SB1. And
[1:21:50] that's done. Those are our projects. We
have to get them done or lose the money.
[1:21:53] » Let's do those.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
[1:21:56] Well, so let's then let's look at the
two. We can decide to let's look at
[1:22:02] them. SE SP1. We've already voted. I
mean, that was a we had a resolution to
[1:22:06] approve these projects a year ago. So,
it's really now a matter of we're going
[1:22:11] forward with the cost. We need to go out
for bid because it's over $5,000.
[1:22:16] So, SB1 is not act. We don't need to act
on that one. The only one we need to act
[1:22:22] on aside from approving going out for
bid. I'm sorry. We have to approve going
[1:22:25] out for bid and then I'll get back to
the engineers on that. So, let's deal
[1:22:29] with that one right now. Do we approve
going out for bid to do the crosswalk
[1:22:34] markings and the pedestrian ex the
pedestrian? Let's make a motion in that
[1:22:38] regard.
>> Yes. If I may, uh I move to uh uh
[1:22:44] approve SP1
um in regards to um uh the uh scope of
[1:22:52] work and cost
>> for option one or option two.
[1:22:58] » I'm looking at option one, which seems
to be uh unanimously uh
[1:23:05] Oh. Oh, I see what you're referring to.
Yes. Okay. Um uh it's irrelevant to me,
[1:23:10] but I think more visibility is good. So
I would go option two in regards to
[1:23:14] subsection 6A here. SP1.
>> SP1. Okay.
[1:23:20] » Second.
>> Okay. We'll do roll call vote. Steve
[1:23:25] » Bruce.
>> Okay. Motion is approved.
[1:23:29] » Okay. What exactly was the motion?
Motion was to approve going out for bid
[1:23:35] for the SB1 projects using option two
continental crosswalk.
[1:23:41] » Okay.
[1:23:46] » It was approved three.
You know the numbers.
[1:23:51] 301
302.
[1:23:55] » So it was Mr. Ta who made the motion and
Mr. Cheryl. [clears throat]
[1:24:00] » Yes. Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:24:03] » Okay. Then with regard to California
Assembly Bill 413, this again was part
[1:24:09] of traffic calming. We've had a couple
meetings about this that this is a
[1:24:14] traffic calming measure. It enhances
pedestrian safety. Do we want to proceed
[1:24:19] with marking in any way, shape, or form
a required 20 foot no parking zone
[1:24:30] at either or both or neither of the two
streets mentioned?
[1:24:37] » Maybe we could revisit this in the
future, but I uh I sense no need to move
[1:24:43] on it uh at this time. Then our cost
estimates will be this would be involve
[1:24:49] a different cost estimate and again
another engineering contract
[1:24:55] » higher expense. Okay. So we are
tableabling this which means we won't
[1:25:02] revisit that.
Then Bruce
[1:25:05] » you have you
>> I I hate to spend money we don't need to
[1:25:11] spend. [laughter]
I really do. I mean either
[1:25:18] I mean, I think we should have the red
zone
[1:25:22] just prior to God's seal road
going south
[1:25:28] the other side. We can't do it. It's
dirt.
[1:25:32] » Think can we simply uh limit the motion
to that and go off the bid accordingly.
[1:25:39] Is
>> that one red stripe?
[1:25:41] » Is it not already included in your your
vote?
[1:25:45] Um, yes.
>> Yes.
[1:25:48] » Yeah. Red curb.
>> Yes.
[1:25:51] » Here it has 35
35 ft.
[1:25:55] » Mhm. That would be if we did both. But
if we're not doing both, then it's we
[1:26:01] only go out to bid for reduced option
two. We
[1:26:05] » just do
the west side of God.
[1:26:08] » We need a motion to do that.
>> Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve
[1:26:16] 5 ft of red line at Godzill
Road.
[1:26:22] » Okay. On the west side of Main Street.
>> And Main Street.
[1:26:25] » Okay.
>> Should call it Main Street.
[1:26:28] » Mhm.
>> Okay. There's a bit a motion to approve
[1:26:33] only doing red paint for the 20 ft uh
approaching the crosswalk at Ion Valley
[1:26:40] Road and on Main Street.
and revising auction two bid.
[1:26:47] We need a second.
[1:26:53] » Guess not.
>> In the absence of of a second, this is
[1:26:58] tabled and will not be revisited.
[1:27:02] » Okay. Okay. So, we'll take off red
painted curb and we'll go forward on
[1:27:06] option two for items 1 through five.
[1:27:11] And
with that, we come to Amodore City's
[1:27:15] dump day. Discussion and possible action
regarding renting a dumpster for a
[1:27:20] weekend. Republic Services charges $689
for a 40yard dumpster with a Friday
[1:27:26] delivery. A Monday pickup. Excess weight
over one ton is built at $17125
[1:27:33] per ton. This is because um this is no
longer a free service that is provided
[1:27:40] to the city. So in the absence of that
and in response to questions about when
[1:27:44] is there a dump day, we looked into the
city pro procuring a dump dumpster.
[1:27:50] These are the costs and it will first
come to council then go to public
[1:27:55] comment.
Aces used to give this to
[1:27:58] » Yes.
[1:28:02] [snorts]
>> I have a question.
[1:28:06] » This is limited to residents within the
city limits. Correct.
[1:28:11] » Or does it include the what I would call
the Amodore city community. In other
[1:28:16] words, people that have businesses here
but live right across the city line, so
[1:28:22] to speak. you raised a interesting point
that um I hoped we would have discussion
[1:28:28] over. This is using
uh public dollars, the public dollars
[1:28:34] that are within that are from property
taxes and other sources of revenue
[1:28:41] within city limits. Um it's not for
residences. This would be a situation
[1:28:46] where we would have to look at
appropriate use of public dollars and do
[1:28:51] we make this open as the old one was for
wide community use or do do does the
[1:28:58] comm does the city need to put
restrictions over who can access it?
[1:29:02] That's a a question council will need to
discuss. Okay, one other followup
[1:29:08] question that if uh if there's a
business owner uh they pay into the
[1:29:14] public fund for the city, correct? In
some form sales tax, but it's only 1% of
[1:29:20] sales tax revenue comes to the city.
>> Okay. So,
[1:29:23] » sales tax
>> small albeit but some.
[1:29:26] » Yes.
>> Thank you.
[1:29:27] » Mhm.
[1:29:31] » Any questions before we go to the
public? What
[1:29:34] » do we want to do? That's that's another
question. So speak up.
[1:29:40] » It will come back to deliberation. So
you don't have to deliberate on it now.
[1:29:44] » Okay. Let's see what what's
>> okay.
[1:29:47] » What you folks have to say.
>> Okay. So it goes to public comment.
[1:29:50] Amidor dump day.
>> I think it's great. My um question is
[1:29:56] how do we make sure we don't go too far
over if it's $160 per ton. How do we
[1:30:02] stop it from getting overloaded?
Does anybody know how many dumpsters
[1:30:08] we've used in the past? I mean, we did
close enough to know it's more than one.
[1:30:13] » Two. Some of them was three. I've seen
the three once.
[1:30:16] » Um, and so it's the same size.
>> 40 yards. I don't I don't know if they
[1:30:22] they were 40 yard dumpsters.
[1:30:26] » Yeah,
>> they're pretty good size.
[1:30:28] » Yeah,
>> they're a good size. [snorts]
[1:30:31] » Yes.
>> You're going to need more than one. So
[1:30:34] budget
[1:30:37] » and um in the I want to re remind folks
that we aces delivered it in the morning
[1:30:45] came back if it was full delivered
another one and then at noon it was
[1:30:49] closed. So this will be delivered on a
Friday night with a Monday pickup.
[1:30:55] Who's going to monitor it?
[1:31:02] Who's going to check IDs?
[1:31:08] » Say one last thing.
>> In England, we we get to free as well.
[1:31:11] Occasionally because if you don't give
people this ability, you'll start seeing
[1:31:15] fridges machines at the side of the
road.
[1:31:17] » Yes. Yes. That's the down that's the
main reason for having one. Yes.
[1:31:24] » I mean, I have a concern of it being
open all weekend.
[1:31:27] » As do I.
I have concern about Ian and me being up
[1:31:32] there saying, "Show me your electric
bill."
[1:31:35] » Does it have to be a weekend?
>> That that is there. Uh because ACES was
[1:31:42] local
>> and Republic Services is out of
[1:31:45] Stockton.
>> And so that is what restricts a weekend
[1:31:51] delivery and drop off.
>> Really?
[1:31:54] » Like they couldn't do it on a Thursday
and pick it up Friday.
[1:32:00] We could ask.
>> I understand that they drop it off on
[1:32:02] Friday and don't want to come back until
Monday, but could it not be a weekday?
[1:32:09] » We can ask. That was that was what was
offered.
[1:32:12] » Okay.
Okay.
[1:32:15] » But, you know, they might say, "Well, we
can do that for this."
[1:32:19] » I had to shrink the window.
>> I really The window The window's
[1:32:25] problematic, vermin. [clears throat]
>> Yes.
[1:32:29] uh window's problematic. So, this would
probably be the issue with postponing
[1:32:35] until we know more is that we wouldn't
decide until July, which means it
[1:32:39] probably would be set up to the end of
July. But it that's that could be
[1:32:44] and I'm I'm deliberating and we haven't
closed. Is there any more public
[1:32:48] comment? I'm sorry. I forgot myself.
Okay, we'll come back to us for
[1:32:53] deliberation.
Now, I'll say what I was going to say.
[1:32:56] We could postpone decision on this with
and get the additional information and
[1:33:01] have it be on the agenda in July.
>> Okay.
[1:33:05] » And that would mean it just postpone
having establishing a date.
[1:33:09] » Yeah.
>> Okay. And let's do that so we don't
[1:33:14] eliminate the possibility of having the
dumpster because I think the point's
[1:33:19] well taken. If we don't have that, then
things, you know, is accumulating in
[1:33:23] front yards and, you know, out in the
fields and so on. So,
[1:33:30] we're going to get additional
information and revisit it in July.
[1:33:34] » Okay. With that, we're on to reports and
um well, we are down to um Mr. Cheryl
[1:33:43] first.
[1:33:46] Well, at the museum board meeting today,
they had two, well, one request
[1:33:53] assigned for the cemetery here on Main
Street.
[1:33:58] And the other one is the museum is going
to donate $1,000
[1:34:04] for the Powderhouse fundraiser.
>> Oo.
[1:34:10] Was the fundraiser successful?
>> Yes, very successful, I think. I mean,
[1:34:15] we were the last count I had was 2,900.
>> So, with this 1,000
[1:34:20] » plus $1,000 from the museum,
>> you know,
[1:34:25] » I didn't hear that. The museum donated
$1,000
[1:34:28] » is
>> Yes.
[1:34:29] » to the counter house.
>> Yes.
[1:34:34] » Restoration.
>> And and at last count that I had, the
[1:34:38] cash that we have taken in, it's $2,900.
So then the museum will make it 3,900
[1:34:48] and there's still more to come. I mean
um Amador County Historical Society is
[1:34:57] going to donate some money.
>> They haven't said how much. They're on a
[1:35:02] kind of a tight budget right now. Mhm.
>> With regard to the sign for the
[1:35:09] cemetery, I thought that was approved by
the historical society,
[1:35:14] » the committee.
>> It was a suggestion. Yeah, that's a
[1:35:18] follow. [cough] I don't know that any
action was ever taken on it.
[1:35:23] Okay, [snorts]
we'll follow up with that committee
[1:35:28] because they have not
used all of the money that was donated
[1:35:32] or acknowledged it with Claudine yet.
>> I know.
[1:35:38] » Okay. So, anything else, Bruce?
>> Nothing.
[1:35:43] » Steve, anything you want to report?
>> Sure, I'd love to. on behalf of the
[1:35:48] Amberor County Veilological Society.
Again, thank you for the space. We had a
[1:35:53] meeting. We maxed out this room. Um 40
is the max. We had standing room only
[1:35:59] and we had individuals come as far as
Mckelam Hill, Angel's Camp, I own
[1:36:06] Stockton, and Loi.
Uh it's remains my impression that we
[1:36:13] probably can do um 40 to 70 uh given the
right talk and the right presenter. Also
[1:36:21] there's a large interest in field trips.
Uh notably to learn more about the local
[1:36:27] mining history of Amador city and
community around it. Uh that being said,
[1:36:33] again, thank you on on the society's
behalf for the use of this space and
[1:36:38] maybe uh the renovated school will be
available down the road which would
[1:36:44] offer more square footage and uh let
them resume uh these meetings there.
[1:36:52] » You're going to have a conflict now
because you're going to have to vote on
[1:36:55] the rental rates. [laughter]
>> You might have to recuse yourself.
[1:37:02] We have no officers, no membership list,
no blind laws.
[1:37:08] » Oh, okay. Anything else?
>> Thank you very much.
[1:37:12] » Um, I heard from um I'll just do a short
report on here. I heard from Josh Mcuan,
[1:37:18] our property manager for the old grammar
school. We have tenants. One tenant will
[1:37:25] be signing a lease tomorrow, moving into
apartment B and moving in over the next
[1:37:29] two weeks. And the other tenants um are
um asking for a July 1st move in date
[1:37:37] and lease beginning because they have to
give 30 days notice. And um that's it's
[1:37:43] very reasonable, but they are very
qualified. It's a couple, so they'll be
[1:37:48] they are in apartment A and a gentleman
in apartment B. And uh so we have
[1:37:55] revenue to look forward to in the next
year because we'll once again have
[1:37:59] tenants up there and we will be working
on the rest of the building going
[1:38:03] forward.
Um
[1:38:07] nothing else to report at this
particular time. Um I'll reserve you
[1:38:14] know what I was going to say. Um and
we'll just move on.
[1:38:19] There are staff reports, any city
attorney report?
[1:38:22] » Not only to mention that I will be here
next month, but I will be out of the
[1:38:27] country for the meeting in August.
>> Got it.
[1:38:31] » Yeah. And I don't know if you
>> Yeah.
[1:38:33] » Okay.
Um and one I don't know if you got my
[1:38:38] email, Pat, but I want Can you stay a
few minutes to talk with me? Thanks. I
[1:38:42] appreciate that. And staff report.
Joyce,
[1:38:45] » I have nothing to report.
>> Nothing to report. Okay. Future agenda
[1:38:49] items. There are a couple things on the
list. The complete budget would need to
[1:38:53] be approved in July. SB1 project list
for 2627 will be on the agenda for July.
[1:39:00] We will also need to approve a
resolution to do micro trenching for the
[1:39:05] fiber optic cable that's coming from um
Volcano Communications. We're waiting
[1:39:11] first for before putting that on the
agenda until Sutter Creek votes whether
[1:39:15] to approve it going through Sutter
Creek. If they do, it's logical for us
[1:39:19] to do so as well to just continue. If
they do not, it makes no sense for us to
[1:39:24] do it in isolation. So, they they vote
on it next week. We'll know more. Um,
[1:39:30] I'm adding in
what was I adding in? Uh, the budget uh
[1:39:36] revisiting dump. So, let me add that.
Any other agenda items to add at this
[1:39:43] time?
[1:39:46] » [clears throat]
>> There's plenty of time. Okay, with that,
[1:39:50] the meeting is adjourned. The next
regular meeting is July 7th at 6:00 p.m.
[1:39:56] here. Uh we're hoping to be possibly in
the community center, but I don't think
[1:40:01] we'll have Wi-Fi up there yet. So, thank
you all.
[1:40:14] Is it possible?
[1:40:18] I'm
>> sorry.
[1:40:22] » There you go.
[1:40:32] » Thank you. Good night.
>> What the f originally looked like for
[1:40:36] the site. I missed by to see if it was
[1:40:41] You guys are both going to have to work
on projecting.
[1:40:44] » People can't hear you.
>> Yeah.
[1:40:46] » Okay.
>> Pretend you're giving a lecture.
[1:40:48] » I hear you.
[1:40:52] » Say Cheryl's country. That's pretty
mean.
[1:40:57] » 15
post.
[1:41:01] » I think no after 59.
>> Okay. After 59. Okay. That's when there
[1:41:15] » in 2017 that was up in Oregon.
>> Yeah, that's what it looks like across
[1:41:18] » the whole Missouri 24. There was one
in my I was born in Illinois, so I went
[1:41:26] to my cousin.
>> I was pretty excited when I saw that
[1:41:28] sign there.
>> Okay, go.
[1:41:32] » Go.
[1:41:35] I left when I was seven years old.
>> Yeah. I left when I was 30 days old cuz
[1:41:40] my dad helped me call service.
>> I spent the rest of my
[1:41:44] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
[1:41:48] If you need anything from me,
>> thank you.
[1:41:53] » I don't know if this is off yet, but
let's make sure it is.
[1:41:56] » Oh, yes. I can do that.
Okay. I wait a little longer.
[1:42:04] Stop. Stop.
>> How much this little camera cost? Do you
[1:42:09] remember?
>> 100 bucks.
[1:42:12] » Yeah.