1 00:00:00,710 --> 00:00:00,710 >> you got me now? Thank you. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,080 pursuant to texas open meetings after closed session, the amarillo city council was announced on january 27, 2026, 3 00:00:10,775 --> 00:00:10,775 at 12:02 pm under the following authorities: section 551.071, 4 00:00:15,665 --> 00:00:18,960 consultant attorney on a matter in which the attorney's duty to the governmental body. Under the texas disciplinary rules of professional conduct, 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,500 conflicts with the chapter, and 074, discuss the appointment, employment evaluation, 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,350 duties of a public officer or employee. Thank you. >> thank you, sir. I appreciate you all. 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,100 >> well, good afternoon. Thank you for attending your regular council meeting here today. 8 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:43,460 we are off to a fast start today, ready to get some more business done here. 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,520 I appreciate everyone for attending. We'll officially call ourselves back into 10 00:00:51,460 --> 00:00:51,460 session and move into our working part of the agenda. 11 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:59,640 mr. City manager, I know you and I had talked over the weekend about maybe what had taken place with some of our local heroes. 12 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:04,340 do we have everything set up and ready for that acknowledgment here today? 13 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:09,845 >> don, do you have anything? >> well, what we would rather do is do that at the next meeting if we could, 14 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,520 and here's why we still have people that are out working water leaks, 15 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:18,880 and we would rather have an opportunity for some of them to come and be recognized. 16 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,280 but I will tell you this, we were so proud. I know you were, too, in our conversation we had 17 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,395 of the work that was done during the winter storm. We had over 90 employees from water department, 18 00:01:35,460 --> 00:01:37,530 whether that's water distribution, water treatment plants, fixing leaks. 19 00:01:39,980 --> 00:01:42,680 I think they're up to 38 of those now. We have 80 employees that were addressing street issues that were out there. 20 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:48,420 I think they just all did a fantastic job. What we'd rather do, if you don't mind, 21 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,500 mayors, compile some statistics, get some true numbers when we're finished with everything, 22 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,400 bring them back to the next meeting when they actually can be here, so we can recognize them. >> we definitely don't mind, 23 00:01:59,940 --> 00:02:02,910 and we look forward to being able to acknowledge that work. I'd like to say, it's not just us that are up here, it's the citizens, 24 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:09,320 and I appreciate everyone for taking your time to email me, message me, 25 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,300 and show it's two o'clock in the morning, and it's in your alley that there's a city truck. 26 00:02:19,410 --> 00:02:22,100 it's negative -10 degree wind chill, and they are fixing a live water main leak. 27 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:25,620 sometimes they can't even find the valve to turn it off. 28 00:02:29,630 --> 00:02:31,940 the amount of, I'd say, local hero that goes into that. 29 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,300 I know we brag on our blue, we back the blue. We love our law enforcement, 30 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,840 our first responders, our firemen, and we love those city servants that constantly are putting in those late hours, 31 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:52,440 and contractors as well. As a fellow contractor, I know how hard it is to get out there and go to work when you don't want to. 32 00:02:56,265 --> 00:02:59,400 we sincerely appreciate that community that we get to live around and that you get to lead, 33 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:04,200 and we look forward to that acknowledgment. Thank you, mr. Hooper. >> thank you, mayor. I'll add one more thing to that. 34 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,680 one of the things I thought was very impressive about this event is that we have call out people that we call and say, 35 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,320 hey, we need you to come in, we need you to respond. The number of people that did not respond was very minimal. 36 00:03:18,385 --> 00:03:20,510 that's maybe one of the first times we've seen that. Then on a handshake tour, 37 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,380 going around and going to the different sites to visit with different people while they were out there. The thing that I encountered the most was that I would get there and they were gone. 38 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,450 I would say, where did they go? I'd call william, and I'd say, where are they at? Well, they've already moved on to this other one. 39 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:36,990 it was hard to catch them because they were working so fast and the cooperative nature between the different departments. 40 00:03:40,450 --> 00:03:42,570 we had other departments coming to backfield for them so they could move on and go to another area, 41 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,870 and just watching the way the directors work and the way they manage this event was just really pleasure to watch. 42 00:03:51,090 --> 00:03:54,250 I can't wait to present that information in detail to you guys and get to brag about our people cause they did do a fantastic job. 43 00:03:58,425 --> 00:04:00,030 >> thank you for saying that. We have some furry friends that weren't left 44 00:04:03,750 --> 00:04:07,620 outside because we have a community that cares for animals as well. That was spun up over the weekend with the extreme cold temperatures. 45 00:04:12,190 --> 00:04:12,190 then we also have some unhoused members of our community. 46 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:16,710 that was taking place very well as well in getting people shelter. 47 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,200 sincere gratitude and a thank you to everyone who pulled together over the weekend. 48 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:31,940 we'll get into our ceremonial items at this point in time. Would you guys welcome pastor margie gonzales as she leads the invocation? 49 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:36,600 please stand, and then we'll do the pledges. 50 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:42,920 >> lord, today, we're so thankful for the great city of amarillo. 51 00:04:46,970 --> 00:04:50,730 we're thankful for your hand upon us. Lord god, we're thankful for your blessings, lord. We're thankful, lord, for a team of employees and servants, 52 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:58,070 lord god, that just came together to take care of our city during this winter storm. Lord, we thank you today for our leadership, god. 53 00:05:00,770 --> 00:05:04,630 we're asking lord that you would just bless the proceedings here, god. We're asking lord that you would cause every item on the agenda, 54 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,960 lord, to be executed in a way that glorifies you, lord, that it would be executed in a way that brings honor and glory to your name, lord, 55 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,340 that every word would be spoken with grace and with decorum and with honor and with respect. 56 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:26,720 lord, we pray today, as I always pray when I'm here, lord, that it would be your agenda that would prevail, lord god. 57 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:33,540 not any man's agenda, but the agenda of heaven, lord, that it would be your kingdom come, 58 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:38,860 and your will be done here on earth as it is in heaven. Lord, today, we pray for our leadership. 59 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:42,680 we ask you to clothe them, lord, in wisdom, to clothe them in strength, 60 00:05:45,340 --> 00:05:48,880 to clothe them in humility, and in integrity, god, and in grace, lord, 61 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:53,330 to do the thing that you have called them poor lord. In the book of deuteronomy, you say, lord, 62 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,760 that as your days are so shall your strength be, lord. There's not one here that isn't here by divine assignment, lord. 63 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:06,500 all authority comes from you, god, and so lord, today, would you help us to honor that authority, 64 00:06:08,540 --> 00:06:10,200 support that authority, lord, and would you also help our leadership to remember that we serve first, 65 00:06:14,580 --> 00:06:17,300 and we lead second, lord god. We just pray your blessings over each one, lord. 66 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:21,720 as they take care of the city's business, lord, would you take care of their business at home? 67 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,000 their families, their businesses, their children, their marriages, lord. 68 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,120 lord, we love you, and we thank you again for a city that allows us to pray to start every meeting, lord. 69 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:36,440 we commit these proceedings to come, lord, we commit them to you and ask you to be glorified in jesus mighty name. Amen. 70 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:43,390 >> amen. Thank you, pastor. >> you will join me in the pledge. 71 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:56,640 >> and the texas flag. 72 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,320 ladies and gentlemen. Please be seated. It's an official call to order as we have a quorum, 73 00:07:16,780 --> 00:07:20,640 and we will continue with any announcements. Do we have any further announcements here today? 74 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:26,520 moving on to item 4 is our public comment period, ms. City secretary, if you'll call us into that. Thank you. 75 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,180 >> thank you, mayor stanley. Thank you for participating in today's city council meeting. 76 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:37,920 your input and your opinions are important to us, and we're glad that you're here to share them today. 77 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,600 at each posted meeting, we invite our fellow community members to address city council 78 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:44,880 regarding posted agenda items or topics related to city policy. 79 00:07:48,980 --> 00:07:52,100 during public comment and any public hearings today, each speaker will have three minutes to address the council. 80 00:07:55,420 --> 00:07:57,305 at the end of two and a half minutes, a warning people will sound to alert you that you 81 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,225 have 30 seconds left to wrap up your thoughts. We do have multiple public hearings today. 82 00:08:04,670 --> 00:08:07,630 if you're here to speak on an item with a public hearing, we would ask you to make comments on that item either 83 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:13,150 during the public hearing or during public comment, but not both, in order to help us keep accurate minutes. 84 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:19,070 it is your decision at which point you would like to speak. When you come to the microphone today, 85 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:20,950 please state your name and whether or not you live within amarillo city limits. 86 00:08:25,310 --> 00:08:28,410 if you are speaking to an item not on today's agenda, the texas open meetings act limits how our elected officials may respond. 87 00:08:32,510 --> 00:08:35,100 counsel may respond with a statement of fact, they may be asked that your topic be added to a future agenda, 88 00:08:38,350 --> 00:08:40,930 or they may refer the matter to the city manager, who can have staff step out and visit with you. 89 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:45,230 again, thank you for being here today. We will utilize both podiums during public comment. 90 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:51,970 we are going to start today with kristin stroud, and while ms. Stroud gives comments, 91 00:08:54,290 --> 00:08:54,290 on deck will be craig gualtiere. You can go ahead and come on up. 92 00:08:58,470 --> 00:09:00,670 counsel, before ms. Stroud begins, you will have a handout that looks blue like this 93 00:09:02,770 --> 00:09:05,170 right here at your place that she provided for her public comments. You can begin. 94 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:14,670 >> good afternoon, mayor stanley and council members. My name is kristin stroud, 95 00:09:16,450 --> 00:09:18,630 and I serve as regional vice president of business development for sports facilities companies. 96 00:09:21,550 --> 00:09:24,910 I'm a resident of amarillo, I live inside the city limits, and I'm here today to request your support for rezoning the amarillo netplex. 97 00:09:29,450 --> 00:09:29,450 the netplex is a 62,000 square foot sports and events center, 98 00:09:33,975 --> 00:09:35,485 a hub of energy, enthusiasm, and excitement for our community. 99 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:38,260 our multi-purpose space includes adaptable courts for volleyball, 100 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:45,090 basketball, pickleball, futsal, private party space, food and beverage sales, 101 00:09:48,290 --> 00:09:48,290 and a pickleball pro shop powered by pickleball central. 102 00:09:52,335 --> 00:09:54,550 designed to serve competitive athletes, recreational players, and our community of senior citizens, 103 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,250 the netplex also hosts corporate meetings, conferences, pop-up winter markets, and social gatherings. 104 00:10:07,290 --> 00:10:09,320 beyond providing premier facilities, we're focused on building community through recreational sports. 105 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,020 across the country, we've seen how the post-game experience transforms recreational venues into gathering places where friendships are forged. 106 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,140 when adults finish playing a game, having the option to stay, grab a beer, 107 00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:27,820 and connect with fellow players creates the social bonds that make communities thrive. 108 00:10:33,790 --> 00:10:36,920 I want to address the elephant in the room. Concerns about alcohol service in the youth sports environment. 109 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,180 we hear you, and we share your concerns. This is why responsible moderation is at the core of our plan. 110 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:48,440 this isn't about creating a bar that happens to have sports courts. 111 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,520 it's about offering a responsible adult amenity that enhances a social experience while maintaining 112 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,620 the family-friendly atmosphere that makes the netplex special. Importantly, the amarillo netplex will have the ability to 113 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,640 choose when and how we serve alcohol. We hold the key to the tap. 114 00:11:11,005 --> 00:11:11,005 we have complete flexibility not to serve at all, 115 00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:15,220 depending on the event, situation, or youth programming. 116 00:11:19,325 --> 00:11:22,900 this means uil events, youth tournaments, family events, church gatherings, 117 00:11:25,545 --> 00:11:29,225 or any other event where alcohol service would be inappropriate. It can proceed without any alcohol presence whatsoever. 118 00:11:33,445 --> 00:11:35,605 the discretion allows us to tailor our service to each event's specific needs and audience. 119 00:11:40,645 --> 00:11:42,320 alcohol sales or not, amarillo netplex maintains a zero-tolerance policy for 120 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:45,330 individuals whose behavior is not in line with community standards, 121 00:11:51,130 --> 00:11:54,030 including any abuse directed at officials, parents, players, or netplex team members. 122 00:11:56,910 --> 00:11:56,910 we are committed to maintaining a respectful and safe environment for all members. 123 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:03,890 it's worth noting that tabc has already granted a license to serve alcohol at this location. 124 00:12:06,690 --> 00:12:10,670 however, due to current zoning limitations and the addition of our new tenant, san jose mexican restaurant, 125 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:12,470 amarillo netplex opted to abandon that license in favor of san jose. 126 00:12:16,650 --> 00:12:19,070 we're now seeking the proper zoning to allow both businesses to serve responsibly within that footprint. 127 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:24,910 appreciate your consideration and welcome any questions. >> thank you, ms. Stroud. 128 00:12:26,850 --> 00:12:26,850 >> our next speaker that may come up to the empty podium is tim benson, 129 00:12:31,770 --> 00:12:33,750 and mr. Gualtiere, you may begin. >> thank you. Let me also echo 130 00:12:36,430 --> 00:12:36,430 what an excellent job all the city employees did on the storm. 131 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:43,510 I did notice that your snow plows looked like they were out doing some practice runs beforehand, 132 00:12:48,930 --> 00:12:51,750 and I commend the leadership of the city staff of what they've been able to accomplish over the storm. 133 00:12:55,010 --> 00:12:55,010 thank you. What I'm here to speak about is obviously the swimming pools. 134 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:00,860 I think a lot of people's perception is that maybe since there's a video made, 135 00:13:07,250 --> 00:13:10,040 that maybe mr. Simpson's mind's already been made up, listening to some of the comments that mr. Prescott made in regards to safety, 136 00:13:13,830 --> 00:13:17,580 his mind is already made up. I would have just asked, especially you two gentlemen, 137 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:18,940 that we shouldn't lop off 50 years of having a pool just so quickly. 138 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,400 I don't think both of you guys are very accomplished businessmen, as all of you all are. 139 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I don't think any of all would ever make those decisions so quickly on your assets, 140 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:37,620 and I expect you not to make the same quick judgments on our assets. 141 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:45,100 I know you're going to say, well, this has been studied, and this has been studied over and over and talked about, but it really hasn't. 142 00:13:48,845 --> 00:13:50,770 what I'm speaking to is, if you're going to study the southeast pool, 143 00:13:53,050 --> 00:13:55,330 the contractors go out there and look at it and maybe see out what the real costs are going to be, 144 00:13:59,070 --> 00:13:59,070 then why can't we have that same evaluation at the southwest pool? 145 00:14:04,975 --> 00:14:08,050 they had just under 10,000 visits. So did the southeast pool. 146 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:10,470 that's with three premier pools in that exact same area. 147 00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:17,625 that tells you there's a need out there. Regardless of what you think it is, 148 00:14:19,650 --> 00:14:22,770 I just think it would be fair and balanced, if you will, is that if you're going to study the southeast pool, 149 00:14:25,830 --> 00:14:29,180 why can't we do the same thing with the southwest pool? Let's call on the city talent of contractors to go out there and look at that. 150 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:37,880 mr. Stanley's in that business, a lot of those things you had to notice, 151 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:41,845 there's no way it would cost that much. Your common sense tells you that. 152 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,420 let's go, please, allow it to be, instead of just closing it today, 153 00:14:49,495 --> 00:14:52,060 you're going to evaluate a full year. You've already closed southeast pool, 154 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:56,210 you said, for the rest of the year. Why not take that same evaluation time that you're going to evaluate southeast pool, 155 00:15:01,890 --> 00:15:03,640 be the same thing for southwest? You may actually find out it's going 156 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,600 to say exactly the same thing that the city staff has been saying. It will cost you $2 million to fix it. 157 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:12,520 well, that gives you backup that when a citizens comes to you and says, 158 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,460 why did you close southwest pool? Well, these are the reasons. You don't have those reasons now. 159 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:27,805 all I do is ask you to please use common sense. This is our tax money, as it is yours. 160 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:30,880 we have the right to let it be evaluated properly before we just lop this off. 161 00:15:36,820 --> 00:15:40,310 thank you for your time. >> thank you, sir. >> tim, you may be good. 162 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,600 >> hey, guys, thanks for putting the check registry on the agenda today. 163 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:49,700 first thing that I'd like to talk about this that I looked at it and I don't see it on there. 164 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,320 I don't see the financial agency-related transactions/aedc. 165 00:15:57,045 --> 00:16:00,140 I don't see the transactions that they have on there. I don't see the deposits. 166 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,880 I don't see the wire transfers. I don't see the deposits and credits of grant money. 167 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,540 that stuff needs to be on there. It's public money, it should be on there. 168 00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:13,010 you write that down and give me an answer on that sometime. 169 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,355 back to the netplex thing. My comment to that is when you have a daycare, 170 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:25,320 a church, and volleyball, 171 00:16:30,450 --> 00:16:33,830 they don't mix with alcohol. That's what you guys need to really consider. 172 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:36,530 those three things don't mix with alcohol. Thanks for your time. 173 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:46,190 >> mayor, that concludes everybody that's signed up today. >> thank you, ms. City secretary. 174 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:50,550 do we have anyone else here who would like to speak? You can go ahead and speak, 175 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:57,580 mr. Fisher, and then afterwards, will you fill that out? >> sure. >> then, mr. Adair, 176 00:16:59,370 --> 00:16:59,370 do you mind signing in that way we can keep a record of it? You'll go next. 177 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:08,090 >> my name is mike fisher. I live in the city limits of amarillo. 178 00:17:10,830 --> 00:17:10,830 I think I've found the money for you guys to keep those polls open. 179 00:17:15,490 --> 00:17:19,490 it's that 500,000 you're spending on emma. Emma is the bot that's on our website for those of you that don't know. 180 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:28,250 she's pretty useless. Just go ask her anything. 181 00:17:30,810 --> 00:17:30,810 I asked her, when is the next city council meeting? Let's hear her answer. 182 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:38,160 >> you can find the schedule for upcoming amarillo city council meetings, 183 00:17:42,685 --> 00:17:45,295 including dates, agendas, and minutes, by visiting the city council meetings page on this website. 184 00:17:48,460 --> 00:17:52,090 regular meetings are held on the second and fourth tuesdays of each month in the council chamber on the third floor of city hall at 6:23 south johnson street. 185 00:17:57,865 --> 00:17:57,865 >> now let's look at chatgpt, which is free. 186 00:18:02,785 --> 00:18:05,590 if you guys choose to use chatgpt, I've already asked it what would it cost for a city our size, 187 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,215 and it said approximately 50,000. Let's hear what chatgpt says when I ask the same exact question. 188 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:19,000 >> tuesday, january 27, 2026, at 12:00 pm cst, 189 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:24,460 amarillo city council regular meeting, location, amarillo city hall, council chamber 623s johnson's third floor, 190 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,610 amarillo, tx 79109. >> if you notice, she gave the exact [noise] date and time; 191 00:18:35,485 --> 00:18:38,170 emma gave us a generalization. What good does that do? 192 00:18:39,670 --> 00:18:41,335 that does nothing for anyone. She didn't even give a link. Click on this link. 193 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,675 I did the math: 450,000, if you decided to go with chatgpt, 194 00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:51,505 you can integrate chatgpt into the website for that 50k. 195 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,210 if you decided not to, just let everybody use chatgpt on their own. 196 00:19:01,405 --> 00:19:04,240 but if you save that 450k, you can service somewhere between $5 and $8 million in debt. 197 00:19:09,805 --> 00:19:13,705 that would easily cover keeping both of those pools open. There's your simple fix. 198 00:19:16,030 --> 00:19:18,775 somebody said 2 million to fix one. Well, there you go. Thanks for your time. 199 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:21,910 >> appreciate you, mr. Fisher. Mr. Adair. 200 00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:32,320 >> I was going to talk about the pools also, because as of recently, 201 00:19:35,755 --> 00:19:35,755 we have seen a lot of stuff. 202 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:41,140 bukies got millions in tax abatements. 203 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,625 ada berry land, south of town, got tax abatements. Just recently, we did the harrington hotel for what, 204 00:19:55,210 --> 00:19:58,045 900,000 in tax abatements. Now we're sitting here talking about closing pools 205 00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:01,825 and wondering why we don't have the money to keep them open. 206 00:20:07,150 --> 00:20:07,150 I think a lot of it's because of all these tax abatements. 207 00:20:11,425 --> 00:20:11,425 in a lot of ways, we're cutting our throats on those and not 208 00:20:16,330 --> 00:20:19,390 having the taxes come in so that we'll have the money to take care of everything that we need to take care of down the road. 209 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,185 I wanted to say that, and that's add on the polls. Thank you. 210 00:20:29,215 --> 00:20:31,720 >> thank you, mr. Adair. Do I have anyone else here who would like to give public comment before we move 211 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:33,760 forward with the rest of the business meeting? Who did you see? 212 00:20:38,425 --> 00:20:42,420 oh, yes. If you'll come forward. If you don't mind, if you'll state your name for the record, 213 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,520 and then after speaking, if you'll go fill it out over there, we'll make sure we keep a good public record. 214 00:20:50,605 --> 00:20:54,205 >> okay. >> lower that microphone down to you, if you would, ma'am. >> my name is katie alexander, 215 00:20:56,785 --> 00:21:00,040 and I am an amarillo city resident. I wanted to speak on the netplex and on the pools. 216 00:21:04,795 --> 00:21:04,795 I think that they coincide. 217 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:09,090 she had spoke about building community, 218 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,405 about having a drink after a game, which is great. I think that sounds nice. 219 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:19,540 but as a parent that has kids that play in kids inc, 220 00:21:25,390 --> 00:21:25,390 and just seeing what issues we've had with kids inc., 221 00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:33,100 adults not behaving the way that they should. This is without alcohol involved, 222 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:35,350 and we're now having to pay extra money for security at these games, 223 00:21:40,885 --> 00:21:40,885 and it's made the cost of something that used to be affordable sport option for 224 00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:51,040 amarillo into something that's costing us over $100 for each kid every time we want to play a sport. 225 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:56,560 I don't think that adding alcohol into the mix is going to do anything positive. 226 00:22:03,910 --> 00:22:03,910 I think it's only going to add more emotions, 227 00:22:08,305 --> 00:22:08,305 and they're not always happy emotions. 228 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:14,860 victory beer is nice, but when you lose, 229 00:22:17,215 --> 00:22:17,215 sometimes there's a different side that comes out. 230 00:22:21,565 --> 00:22:23,770 with that being said, the pools, that does create a sense of community. 231 00:22:28,075 --> 00:22:28,075 that is a place for these families to go and to spend time without having to spend, 232 00:22:36,285 --> 00:22:40,050 even maybe $10 to get inside the pool, and to be able to spend hours with friends, 233 00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:46,150 meeting people, and I think that that's the more direction that we need to be going towards when we're trying to build community. 234 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:51,360 I don't think that adding alcohol is going to be a beneficial thing to anything, 235 00:22:59,070 --> 00:23:01,850 especially with the daycare there. Again, as a parent, 236 00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:06,400 I would feel very uneasy knowing that even though there is control of when the alcohol is can be served. 237 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:15,700 it's just using that discretion and making sure that that's going to be used with the best intent. 238 00:23:20,485 --> 00:23:22,675 that's all I wanted to say. >> thank you, ma'am. If I don't mind, 239 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:28,375 if you'll step right over here with miss stephanie, she'll get you filled out. >> thank you. >> thank you. I saw another hand, 240 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,710 who did we have that was next to you? Did we have one other person that wanted to speak? 241 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,340 okay. At this time, we'll close public comment. We'll move forward with the rest of the working session. 242 00:23:43,495 --> 00:23:45,985 we have our consent agenda, and I believe I have a few items that may need to come off of that. 243 00:23:49,660 --> 00:23:53,065 council, is there anything you'd like to pull on the consent agenda? >> council mayor, I'd like to pull 5.4 off the consent. 244 00:23:57,265 --> 00:23:57,265 >> 5.4 is the pool item that's before us. We will pull that. 245 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:08,370 do I have anything else that needs to come off, council? Would entertain a motion on the remaining consent agenda. 246 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:14,710 >> moved. >> second. >> I have a motion and a second from place 2. 247 00:24:17,380 --> 00:24:20,260 all in favor, please say aye. [overlapping] >> any opposed? Motion passes. 248 00:24:22,915 --> 00:24:22,915 let's take up item 5.4, potential resolution. 249 00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,010 this is our second and final reading, so we have already voted on this once. 250 00:24:32,395 --> 00:24:35,095 doesn't mean that we cannot redirect it. I would go ahead and ask councilman reid if you wanted to lead us into this conversation, 251 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:43,440 and then we'll draw staff in. >> after our last council meeting in a couple of weeks, 252 00:24:49,375 --> 00:24:50,965 leading up to this, and rethinking what we've done to 253 00:24:55,645 --> 00:24:55,645 permanently close southwest pool and do a study on southeast pool, 254 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,385 really doesn't make sense. The numbers, and I don't like to use 255 00:25:06,220 --> 00:25:08,710 those numbers because they really don't tell us much, given some things that are going on because of the pools, the conditions, 256 00:25:13,375 --> 00:25:13,375 but I think we should take some time to actually do an evaluation of both pools. 257 00:25:19,495 --> 00:25:19,495 but also, if the plan is to close any of them, 258 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,680 one or both of them is, what is the plan of replacement? 259 00:25:29,335 --> 00:25:29,335 are we looking at one complex because it's 260 00:25:33,415 --> 00:25:33,415 a quality-of-life issue that I think is important to our community? 261 00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:41,920 I think the community needs to weigh in on that. We need to listen to what they want, 262 00:25:45,130 --> 00:25:45,130 as opposed to maybe what we want or what the staff is seeing. 263 00:25:49,390 --> 00:25:52,435 I appreciate the work that staff has done. But I think it's time to bring somebody in that understands what we're up against, 264 00:26:01,195 --> 00:26:03,430 and whether or not they're fixable, replaceable, or where we go with it. 265 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:09,820 >> thank you, sir. Councilman tips. >> donny, can I add to that? 266 00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:15,130 can we get a number on demo on those? What's it going to take to demo, 267 00:26:16,435 --> 00:26:18,880 fill those things full of dirt or remove that. What's it going to take to level those things out to make it usable? 268 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,900 >> sure. We could do that. I think to address what councilman reid was talking about, 269 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:30,250 it wouldn't be any different for us to build that as a full package to not only do an evaluation of both pools, 270 00:26:34,150 --> 00:26:37,465 but also even look at our feasibility study that we originally had brought, previously engaged a as well where you have a plan, 271 00:26:40,945 --> 00:26:43,960 see what the feasibility is, what the desires and needs are of the community as well. 272 00:26:46,825 --> 00:26:46,825 I think we could entertain that if that's what the council would have us do. Thank you. 273 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,545 >> councilman? >> I make a motion that we look at 274 00:26:56,770 --> 00:26:58,720 both southwest and southeast pools and do a feasibility study on both of those properties. 275 00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:07,975 >> [noise] councilman, do you have anything? >> mr. City attorney, let me ask you, 276 00:27:10,165 --> 00:27:11,890 a little uncharted territory. We've got a resolution that's up for its second and final reading. 277 00:27:15,775 --> 00:27:15,775 is it cleaner to table that resolution and present 278 00:27:20,095 --> 00:27:20,095 an alternate direction or to amend since we now have the second reading? 279 00:27:25,855 --> 00:27:28,930 >> substantially. I would say that you can do it either way if you want to; it's up to you. 280 00:27:32,755 --> 00:27:35,065 >> I appreciate the advice. >> I feel this is not a substantial change. 281 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:39,760 this is just some additional work we can add on to the direction that council has already directed us towards. 282 00:27:42,730 --> 00:27:44,680 I think we can work with the resolution, just amend it as councilor prescott has requested, 283 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:51,370 and we just have a little bit more work to sign to the park advisory board. [noise] 284 00:27:57,580 --> 00:27:57,580 >> I'm just going to read the language here and make sure we're good. 285 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,240 this item is a second and final reading to consider a resolution authorizing the closure of southwest pool. 286 00:28:07,435 --> 00:28:07,435 that is being amended to the temporary closure of southwest and 287 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:11,820 southeast pool for the 2026 season due to safety and structural concerns, 288 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:16,740 directing staff to perform an engineering study. 289 00:28:21,375 --> 00:28:24,145 moved. With that, for clarification, the feasibility study. 290 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,260 there's a slight difference in that as well. Structural study, but also a feasibility study. 291 00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:35,860 >> correct. >> for both southeast and southwest. >> correct. >> I think we have the motion before you, council? 292 00:28:38,485 --> 00:28:40,645 >> second. >> motion in a second. Any further discussion on 5.4? 293 00:28:43,495 --> 00:28:46,720 all in favor, please say aye. [overlapping] >> any opposed? Motion passes. 294 00:28:49,285 --> 00:28:53,095 >> mr. Bayer. >> yes, sir. >> I'd like to just a point of reference. I think michael kashuba and his group ask for that 295 00:28:56,605 --> 00:28:56,605 originally to do the study on both southwest and southeast, correct? 296 00:29:01,345 --> 00:29:01,345 back in august, and we tasked them to do it internally. 297 00:29:06,205 --> 00:29:09,670 this ask was originally proposed in august. I just don't want to lose light of that. 298 00:29:11,725 --> 00:29:15,115 maybe we should have just done it in august instead of waiting until now. But I think we should recognize that that 299 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:21,535 was the initial course of action that was requested. >> do you have anything else there, council? 300 00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:26,110 >> he was the one that didn't let us take no I was [overlapping] 301 00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:34,195 >> [laughter] were the one. Can't we just do it ourselves, and then here we are three months later? We're going to get somebody else. 302 00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:37,830 >> that was me. >> mr. Hooper, you got anything to add? 303 00:29:40,825 --> 00:29:43,600 >> no, sir. I think we have a clear direction on that, and we can certainly make that work. 304 00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:48,370 we'll bring you back the findings of the study, for the way I understand it, 305 00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:51,895 the study for both the facilities, what it would take if we had to close them, 306 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,435 what it would cost to fix them, etc. To do the full study structurally, everything else. 307 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,760 then also a feasibility study to make sure that we know what the needs are versus what we have now for the future. 308 00:30:08,275 --> 00:30:09,880 >> yes, sir. >> part of that, can we get without doing an rfp and rfq, 309 00:30:14,575 --> 00:30:14,575 can we get legitimate bids from contractors that just give us an idea? 310 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,670 is that doable? It is doable. [laughter] but you don't want to do it. What is that a problem? 311 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,490 >> no, I don't think so. I think we can work through it. >> seriously, is it something? 312 00:30:33,070 --> 00:30:36,520 >> you're talking about just getting an estimate, just a pie in the sky estimate. >> not a pie in the sky estimate, 313 00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:40,000 but I think we've been presented with all these numbers, but we haven't been presented with hard. 314 00:30:42,595 --> 00:30:42,595 this was a bid that we got from x pool company, 315 00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:50,500 and they could do it for this. >> sure. >> to replace the equipment. 316 00:30:53,365 --> 00:30:56,290 >> that will come as part of the structural analysis. >> well, that's what I'm saying, but yes. 317 00:30:57,595 --> 00:30:57,595 we've been presented with a repair estimate that, 318 00:31:01,975 --> 00:31:04,885 obviously, a lot of the community is questioning. You're saying $1.2 million. Where did that come from? 319 00:31:07,765 --> 00:31:11,215 well, we're saying, well, it's $400,000 to re plaster it. Well, did we get a hard bid for that, 320 00:31:14,245 --> 00:31:17,500 or someone told us that's about what it's going to be? I'm saying if we have hard bids, 321 00:31:19,075 --> 00:31:22,075 I think it brings a lot of comfort to the citizens to go, listen, here it is, just like mr. Gualtiere brought up. 322 00:31:25,315 --> 00:31:27,895 if we have those, and they say, well, why are you closing it? Well, we've got these eight bids to do the mechanical, the plaster, 323 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:34,660 the whatever, and the engineering, the big void that's underneath. It's not doable. Then that's like, 324 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,410 oh, okay. Makes sense. >> sure. Councilman, for any project like this, 325 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:44,560 generally, what we'll do is get budgetary estimates. We don't know if we're looking at a $200,000 fix or a $5 million fix. 326 00:31:48,550 --> 00:31:48,550 we work with vendors to try to come up with a budgetary number that's not a formal bid, 327 00:31:54,190 --> 00:31:56,320 so that we know what the starting point is. From there, then we can go do a true bid once we know what that budget would be. 328 00:32:00,790 --> 00:32:03,730 [overlapping] those numbers were from a pool company that gave us those estimates to do the pools. 329 00:32:07,765 --> 00:32:11,575 we actually have used the sunbelt pool for a lot of different projects. They were the ones that gave us the number to 330 00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:15,175 reflect for the pool and also for the equipment. Those are budgetary estimates that came straight from a vendor. 331 00:32:17,890 --> 00:32:19,675 >> in order to get the hard bid, we've got to design the procurement scope document, 332 00:32:22,945 --> 00:32:24,400 the scope itself, exactly. That's the next step that we've asked the council to move towards. 333 00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:32,950 again the board has been looking at a couple of options. They're going to be looking, okay, do we recommend to the city council to fix what is? 334 00:32:37,930 --> 00:32:40,015 here's the scope, and here's the bids? Or do we recommend to the feasibility, 335 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,520 this isn't the right place. Maybe 1, 2, 3, I don't know. Maybe a splash pad. We don't know. 336 00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:50,965 that's why, before we spend money, part of the idea is a feasibility study, 337 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:55,300 decide what the best use of these funds? >> I think the biggest thing is that we see the cost in above, 338 00:32:57,970 --> 00:33:00,505 which I think you'll done a pretty good job of presenting. But I think what's lacking is just those hard bids of. 339 00:33:05,695 --> 00:33:05,695 >> that's exactly right. I think we really need to take 340 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,620 a more investigative approach to get you some real numbers rather than just the estimates. Thank you. 341 00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:16,450 >> council anything further on that item. 342 00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:20,820 gentlemen, we'll move into section 6, our discussion. 343 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:26,340 we will go to 6.1. I know we have miss owens back here. 344 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,250 katrina, if you want to come in and maybe speak to what is currently on the website as far as check register. 345 00:33:40,975 --> 00:33:44,440 then we'll try to give better direction on what we're looking for. >> good afternoon, mayor and council. 346 00:33:46,390 --> 00:33:50,140 today, I want to present an overview of the city's current practices related to the postings of the check register and the account register. 347 00:33:54,610 --> 00:33:54,610 I am katrina owens, interim cfo. I'm falling apart. 348 00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:03,775 so council gave direction back on june 24, meaning to produce two reports, 349 00:34:06,355 --> 00:34:09,280 the check register, and then the account register. Now, the check register is a canned report from the system. 350 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:14,380 there's no programming. It was bought with the system when we bought it. 351 00:34:17,275 --> 00:34:21,175 it's easy to produce. It has raw transactional data. Quick turnaround and timely posting. 352 00:34:24,565 --> 00:34:26,275 now, some of the drawbacks, it does not include the wire transfers or deposits, 353 00:34:29,635 --> 00:34:32,695 and that is specifically stated on the website. We built the account register for that. 354 00:34:36,325 --> 00:34:36,325 it is a customized report written by our erp accountant or consultant. 355 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,245 it has all the forms of payment, including the checks, ach's, 356 00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,290 wire transfers and deposits. It provides more of a complete picture of 357 00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:51,750 the city financial activity for the general fund pull account. 358 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,460 however, it is slower to produce. It is produced on a quarterly basis after the full bank recon has been performed. 359 00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:09,250 it does require more information to be redacted. Now, direction was given to us to use 360 00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:11,770 the starting point of the new erp system as of january 2025. 361 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:19,560 the data looked consistent. There was no questions of with 362 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,545 prior years looking different than the current year system. >> I want to take a moment and talk about the state comptroller's office. 363 00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:35,400 they do have a transparency stars program, which recognizes local governments that go above and beyond basic transparency by 364 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:40,460 making meaningful financial and operational information easily accessible to the public. 365 00:35:46,465 --> 00:35:46,465 now, this program aligns the city to follow best practices with the comptroller's office. 366 00:35:51,885 --> 00:35:54,840 now, with all awards that we work towards, there's always going to be built in a best practice, 367 00:35:57,435 --> 00:36:01,200 either at the state level or the federal level that we can follow. The city is working towards the eligibility of this program. 368 00:36:05,595 --> 00:36:08,865 the check registers must be posted, including all the transfers, wires, and deposits. 369 00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:15,450 we will achieve that with the account ledger. We must have three years of data posted online. 370 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,240 we currently are in our first year, so it'll take a couple more years before we have all of that accomplished. 371 00:36:25,005 --> 00:36:25,005 then the information must be within three clicks of the home page, 372 00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:32,210 and we have accomplished that. This is a snippet of the city's website. 373 00:36:37,445 --> 00:36:39,530 it's home, finance, and then financial transparency. 374 00:36:41,675 --> 00:36:45,050 down at the bottom, you can see, we start listing the check register, so it's in within three clicks. 375 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,040 right above those dots towards the top, 376 00:36:53,505 --> 00:36:57,270 it does have the disclaimer that excludes the wire transfers, the deposits, and the transactions related to the component units. 377 00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:01,260 now, there is a link for public information request act for that information. 378 00:37:07,755 --> 00:37:07,755 I'd also like to point out that we are the fiscal agents for the component units, 379 00:37:12,510 --> 00:37:12,510 and so we currently are only posting city information that council has oversight of. 380 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,925 going into an example of the check register. It lists the payee, 381 00:37:25,275 --> 00:37:27,105 the amount, the date. This really is just a list of checks from the system. 382 00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,890 then we start with the account register. This is right under the checks register area, 383 00:37:38,115 --> 00:37:41,575 so we can see we have the three quarters there. It does down towards the bottom of this list all the other accounts you can ask for. 384 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,490 you can ask for the hot tax debt and any other accounts, and you can do that through a public information request act. 385 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,200 going into the account ledger, 386 00:37:59,750 --> 00:38:02,520 you can see that it has date, supplier, employee, customer, the fund, 387 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,575 which is going to be important, and then either the payment amount or the deposit. 388 00:38:11,535 --> 00:38:11,535 currently, we have not received any public information requests on additional data. 389 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:18,230 what else would you like to see or what questions can I answer for you? 390 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,770 >> thank you, ma'am. Let's start over here with councilman prescott. >> on the wires, is there any way if the wires are not available, 391 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:37,530 can we maybe get a gl audit analysis report? Can we make some subsequent reports out of 392 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:43,335 the erp that are just going to show the wires without having to? >> the wires will be in your account ledger in 393 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,935 the deposit or in the payments until they will be listed. >> I had heard earlier that they were not? 394 00:38:52,125 --> 00:38:55,470 >> not in the check register. They're in the account ledger. >> all things that we've been asked for by the public are going to be in the report? 395 00:39:00,945 --> 00:39:03,945 >> yes. >> that's quarterly, correct? >> yes, it is. >> that's quarterly monthly. 396 00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:10,370 >> thank you. >> yes. Absolutely. >> councilman? 397 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,825 >> I'm going to go back because mr. Benson, when he came up to speak on this, 398 00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:20,420 is it a legal reason that we don't post certain things or things have to be redacted? 399 00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:28,170 >> redacted. We wouldn't post like the home housing checks. 400 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,040 you don't want to see what the names are. You don't want to see any wire information that has wire account information. 401 00:39:39,090 --> 00:39:39,090 you need to redact things that would protect privacy of that third party. 402 00:39:44,775 --> 00:39:48,315 >> he asked specifically about the aedc, their deposits, grant funds, and those type of things. 403 00:39:51,225 --> 00:39:55,020 >> that's up to your discretion. If you would like to start seeing aedc, then we can provide that. 404 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:56,280 it would take about half a day extra work to produce that specific and post it. 405 00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:01,410 currently, it's just been about city oversight. 406 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:09,090 >> when we looked at city oversight, we were just talking about our particular checking account? 407 00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:15,410 >> right. >> now, katrina, I know we have oversight over the aedc. 408 00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:20,340 could that be a request made to them or did they not have access? 409 00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:25,170 if you're telling us your crew is going to take a half day to get that data, 410 00:40:31,275 --> 00:40:33,175 put it in a format that can be presented. Is that something that aedc could do? 411 00:40:36,365 --> 00:40:38,120 >> we could post it on their side. Now, we do the reconciliation of their bank account 412 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:44,420 because we're in charge of moving the money as a fiscal agent. We would do the redacting. 413 00:40:46,505 --> 00:40:49,670 now, if it's better on the aedc website, then by all means, then we can do that. 414 00:40:51,425 --> 00:40:54,095 >> I was just thinking just resource wise. If you guys, I know you are strapped. 415 00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:58,320 a half day is a half day. You're saying a half day a month is what it would take to do aedc. 416 00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:05,265 >> a quarter. >> a quarter? >> it would still be a quarter perspective on that one. Because it has to be reconciled regardless and so the redaction and making 417 00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:13,200 sure that privacy is upheld and then we get it to whatever website we would like to point. 418 00:41:16,575 --> 00:41:20,190 >> thank you. >> katrina's not saying that we can't do it. We won't do it. It's just we focused from from our direction. 419 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:25,995 we thought we had from counsel, look at the city manager, the ones that actually your accounts. 420 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:31,500 we didn't look at the component units, but the council like for us to post component units, we can add that to our list. 421 00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:37,230 >> that would be probably half a day per each and there's about six, so a couple of days worth of work. 422 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:39,860 >> do the grant deposits and payments that go out? 423 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:48,170 >> it's in there. >> they're in the regular lager? >> yes. 424 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,485 >> councilman? >> grayson, can we have the aedc come 425 00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:55,620 in and discuss getting that data to us so we can get that presented? 426 00:41:59,820 --> 00:41:59,820 >> certainly. You want them to come and ask that it be done? 427 00:42:06,315 --> 00:42:10,275 >> I just want to make sure there's no conflict with any deal flow or anything. >> I say anything aedc related for confidentiality. 428 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:18,855 we can consult with mr. Nelson about that. If there's any issues we can come back to. 429 00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:22,770 but otherwise, if the council wants to direct us to proceed in that direction, we can work towards that. 430 00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:25,110 if I have issues, we'll bring the issues back to you. 431 00:42:29,655 --> 00:42:32,205 >> we got a little ahead on a future agenda item. >> well, I believe we already have that data. Correct? 432 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:36,090 >> we have the data. Already have it. >> now, if it's a matter you would like aedc to approve that they post it, absolutely. 433 00:42:42,090 --> 00:42:44,475 >> we are the owners. We've already got it. >> I don't think you need their approval. 434 00:42:47,415 --> 00:42:47,415 are you just concerned about there being confidentiality information or? 435 00:42:51,435 --> 00:42:54,495 >> I didn't know how the deal flow at the start. Now, once it's approved by counsel and things like that, 436 00:42:56,910 --> 00:42:56,910 I just want to make sure that we're doing things right on both sides. 437 00:43:00,975 --> 00:43:04,620 >> we consult mr. Nelson. If there is any issues that we're not aware of if we can bring him to, but otherwise, I'm not aware of anything that prevent us from doing that. 438 00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:10,230 >> thank you. >> I think it's good form, and it lends to a good working relationship. 439 00:43:12,465 --> 00:43:14,205 we obviously have the data. We could put it up and continue to give 440 00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:17,370 more additional information and let those that want to look at those registers see them. 441 00:43:23,505 --> 00:43:27,225 I don't think we're under any urgency per se. I think if that's something you could reach out and do and 442 00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:31,830 bring back a statement if mr. Nelson doesn't need to come and present anything in line with that. Yes, sir. 443 00:43:36,675 --> 00:43:38,670 >> just one final question. Rich, is there anything that we can do with any agents or ai to 444 00:43:44,565 --> 00:43:46,230 accelerate and not have a half a day and then also maybe even get this faster than quarterly? 445 00:43:50,415 --> 00:43:52,980 because it's very concerning to the citizens of amarillo that we can't see this in a more rapid fashion. 446 00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:58,665 can we not get this faster? >> yes. We can take a look at it. We can actually use our mimica software to 447 00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:04,920 record the entire process and figure out if we can help automate. >> I think that would be a wise use of funds. 448 00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:11,400 >> I actually just took that as a note, so we're already thinking that way. Just to explain that, so we have a software mimica takes some time 449 00:44:15,285 --> 00:44:15,285 because it monitors the actions of employees so that we can see, 450 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,265 they're spending half a day doing this, can we automate that? That'll take some time to complete because you have to study 451 00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:28,695 the employees over time to get data on that. But we can work on that. >> we'll have to actually do one in that way, 452 00:44:30,855 --> 00:44:34,470 we have the entire process captured, and then we'll figure out, can we actually automate that and use agentic to make it faster. 453 00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:40,770 >> thank you. >> no worries. >> just for my clarification, do you want all component units or just aedc? 454 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,040 >> let's identify that because if you're looking at the pids. 455 00:44:48,735 --> 00:44:51,360 >> that's inside of general fund. >> they're already being displayed. 456 00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:56,940 other component units would be [overlapping] >> venue district, hospital district. 457 00:44:59,670 --> 00:45:01,830 let me get to that page. Chamber, lgc, and the health facilities corporation, 458 00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:11,000 which doesn't have anything to it. >> yes, sir. 459 00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:12,690 >> my thought on that is we have it. 460 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,450 why wouldn't we just give that information out to the public? >> we can if that's what you'd like to do. 461 00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:25,670 >> I think gauging the citizenry, 462 00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:32,835 that they're going to say, why not? Then if we do withhold, then you're withholding something that we don't have any problem with releasing, 463 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,070 and it causes the question to arise like, why not or what do you holding? 464 00:45:43,605 --> 00:45:47,070 >> mary, it's not a question of trying to hide anything. It's just there's so many documents 465 00:45:49,140 --> 00:45:52,020 we not just here in finance, but sill across the board. Until you direct us otherwise, 466 00:45:53,835 --> 00:45:57,810 we don't spend resources trying to put every document on the website. We're not trying to hide anything. 467 00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:01,080 it's just we're also trying to be wise stewards of the taxpayer dollars of where do we put our resources on doing the work. 468 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:04,680 this is a good direction. Now we know that the council like to see all the components. 469 00:46:09,285 --> 00:46:10,770 we can work towards that. >> counsel, is there anybody that is moving a different direction, 470 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,670 or are we in unison that we want to go ahead and put up all the component units along with the internal departments of the coa? 471 00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:29,760 I don't hear anyone. We will move forward with directing you guys to do that, miss katrina. 472 00:46:32,955 --> 00:46:35,970 then can I get confirmation that all deposits are being displayed? They're just quarterly. 473 00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:43,545 >> they are. >> there's no wire transfers. There's no deposits. I shouldn't say missing. 474 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:45,270 I should say there's no revenues that are coming into the city [overlapping] 475 00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:52,560 >> that are not reported. >> they are not reported. >> they're all there. >> all expenditures are being shown, 476 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,550 all revenues are being shown, all component units will be shown. 477 00:46:58,980 --> 00:46:58,980 then how many years back do we have the ability to do this? 478 00:47:03,795 --> 00:47:05,415 >> well, we can go back as far as you want, but there will be a different look to the data in the old system. 479 00:47:09,255 --> 00:47:13,230 we started with january to make it look consistent. >> it's current year that we're in right now. 480 00:47:16,245 --> 00:47:16,245 then if individuals needed to get to a zero on a reconciliation for themselves, 481 00:47:23,055 --> 00:47:25,725 and they wanted to go back three years, how would they get that? >> there's a public information link on the website on those areas, 482 00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:33,000 and they just have to fill out a request, and we'd be happy to provide. >> then that public information link, 483 00:47:36,465 --> 00:47:38,430 that's just going to look different, but all of that information's already being held, 484 00:47:40,830 --> 00:47:42,225 it's already been accounted for. It's in your [inaudible] it's in your audit reports. 485 00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:49,185 it's not like we were creating work for staff at that. All you need to do is just click a button and share that 486 00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:55,755 data to whoever the foia requester is. >> probably will be a little bit more than just to click a button, 487 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,590 we'll have to make sure that if there's any redaction that needs to happen, that we do that, but it's not going to be extensive amount of time. 488 00:48:05,145 --> 00:48:08,280 >> would it be normal for a citizen who's wanting to watch accounting this closely moving forward 489 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:14,220 to request say three years previous just to compare that with whatever we already have filed of record. 490 00:48:17,625 --> 00:48:19,640 >> we can do that. >> counsel, I think that that's probably going to be 491 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,710 the other thing that we're going to continue to hear. This for me, is don't ever go halfway, 492 00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:31,545 if you're going to go at all, go all the way. For us to put all of this up and to start placing all the component units and then 493 00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:36,210 have an inability to show three years prior accounting, 494 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:44,550 which we have, has all been audited financials. Then I just think that's asking for trouble. 495 00:48:47,295 --> 00:48:50,850 I would love to just go ahead and get that. Now, is there any direction from counsel to put that on the website? 496 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,080 does that help us with our transparency, and maybe some of the stuff we're submitting because there 497 00:49:00,690 --> 00:49:03,210 was something in there you have to be able to show three years? >> the three years for the transparency star, 498 00:49:06,045 --> 00:49:07,725 it would be for the account. We would be able to qualify for it at that point in time if we posted three years. 499 00:49:12,345 --> 00:49:12,345 >> these individuals that are asking for this information tend 500 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:17,280 to be very tech savvy and not to mind the different looking reports. 501 00:49:22,290 --> 00:49:22,725 >> that's fine. >> they just want bulk data from the ones that I'm communicating with. 502 00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:30,090 I don't see the difficulty in it not looking the same because I'm a fan of not creating additional work for the staff. 503 00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:35,700 my request, counsel, will be to go ahead and put three years back, 504 00:49:40,290 --> 00:49:42,600 just the bulk data on the website, as well as all of the other additional direction. 505 00:49:45,525 --> 00:49:48,720 do I have anybody here that wants to go a different direction? >> but that can be done with very little resources, just putting it on there. 506 00:49:55,980 --> 00:49:57,465 >> I hope so. >> well, because I thought the discussion before was that was not the case, 507 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,125 and that's why we went from the new software forward is because it was going to be a little cumbersome putting the old ones. 508 00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:09,450 >> I don't remember that part of the aspect, but my recollection was it was because of the different look. 509 00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:14,660 >> I do remember some discussion about other things we needed to spend time on, 510 00:50:20,670 --> 00:50:20,670 but knowing that it is there and it's all already reconciled, 511 00:50:25,425 --> 00:50:27,450 it would just be a redaction. I think it's well worth the time to redact it once and versus answering multiple foias. 512 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,670 let's just put it on the website. >> we can do so. >> greatly appreciated that. 513 00:50:36,885 --> 00:50:37,590 >> thank you, sir. >> thank you, miss katrina. Gentlemen, it's only 3:50. 514 00:50:45,015 --> 00:50:47,160 I know you guys aren't used to this. We'll keep pushing. Do I have any requests for future agenda items, item number 6.2? 515 00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:58,830 >> just for clarification. Yes, sir. I think we need to have doug nelson. 516 00:51:00,930 --> 00:51:04,650 I don't want to have that on the agenda. I think we can handle that internally. >> I think so. We just reach out, 517 00:51:06,930 --> 00:51:06,930 double check on some of the deal flow, 518 00:51:11,055 --> 00:51:13,230 I guess, probably is the one concern. Good clarification. Thank you. 519 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:17,130 anything further, gentlemen. I'll move us forward into non consent agenda. 520 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:21,600 item 7.1 is our first of four public hearings. 521 00:51:26,670 --> 00:51:26,670 mr. Kendrick, our favorite presenter, you're up. 522 00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:36,360 >> good afternoon, mayor and counsel. This first item is a public hearing and consideration of audits 8231. 523 00:51:41,055 --> 00:51:41,055 this is the consider the rezoning of 253.61 acres of land located in potter county, 524 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:48,240 texas, in the vicinity of northwestern street and west hastings avenue. 525 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:54,600 the applicant is ojd engineering llc for northwestern development company, llc, 526 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:01,740 and they're requesting the rezone from agricultural district to moderate density district 1 527 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:07,500 with specific use permit 207 to allow for 35 foot wide lots for single family detached homes. 528 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:11,280 they are proposing a total of 1,138 lots within this proposed subdivision. 529 00:52:17,835 --> 00:52:17,835 that will include a mix of attached and detached single family, 530 00:52:22,485 --> 00:52:22,485 197 of those will be the attached single family town homes. 531 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:28,470 this property was located outside the city limits at the time that city plan was adopted, 532 00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:36,660 so there is not a city plan place type for this property yet. It will conform with many of the goals and objectives of city plan 2045, 533 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:43,545 that I'll go over here in a few moments. On your screen now is the way that this property is going to essentially be divvied up 534 00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:47,610 between different plan areas that will feature different housing types within the area. 535 00:52:52,035 --> 00:52:53,835 planning area 1, which is that area in red will be the area that will have 536 00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:58,665 some of those 35 foot wide lots. Planning areas 2 and 4 will be the town home areas. 537 00:53:01,155 --> 00:53:04,320 planning area 3 will be an area in which the lot widths are required to be a minimum of 50 feet wide at the setback. 538 00:53:09,615 --> 00:53:09,615 those will be a larger baseline lot that has more traditional than the 35 foot wide lots. 539 00:53:16,690 --> 00:53:16,690 >> the unit density for this area will be approximately 4.5 units per acre, 540 00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:24,920 which is very on par with other no alley subdivisions in town, such as tradewood square and heritage hills, for example. 541 00:53:28,865 --> 00:53:28,865 then on your screen right now is the phasing of the area. 542 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:36,110 I'll also note that the areas in green are proposed green space, and there is going to be approximately 58 acres 543 00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,990 of improved green space provided within this subdivision, that will also feature amenities for the residents. 544 00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:46,100 regarding the goals and objectives of city plan 2045. 545 00:53:50,135 --> 00:53:52,460 it really puts an emphasis on providing a variety of housing products within new subdivisions, 546 00:53:54,650 --> 00:53:58,265 which this does in the planning and zoning commission's opinion. Additionally, given that diversity in 547 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,200 addition to meeting the two primary housing goals for the city within city plan 2045, 548 00:54:09,020 --> 00:54:12,020 the commission felt like this does do a good job of providing future workforce housing and affordable housing options, 549 00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:18,080 which is a key component of city plan. By right, moderate density district 1 allows for 40 foot wide lots 550 00:54:22,115 --> 00:54:22,115 and allows for less as requested by the specific use permit. 551 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:30,050 city departments and utility companies did review the proposal for those narrower lots and did not see any concerns with what was proposed. 552 00:54:34,685 --> 00:54:38,525 on your screen now is the breakdown of the lots throughout the subdivision. The ones highlighted in green are those 35 foot lots. 553 00:54:41,705 --> 00:54:44,345 the blue is 40 foot approximately, and then the yellows are those 50-60 foot wide lots that the subdivision will feature. 554 00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:54,035 while in some portions of the city, an entire neighborhood, zone and developed to moderate density one district standards may not be appropriate. 555 00:54:57,725 --> 00:55:00,920 the commission was of the opinion that there are a couple of key points to consider as to why it is appropriate for this area. 556 00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:08,150 this development from west to east across the property features significant changes in elevation as demonstrated by this cross section. 557 00:55:12,365 --> 00:55:12,365 it actually falls approximately 134 feet from one side to the other. 558 00:55:17,345 --> 00:55:17,345 with that falled elevation and the unique street layout, 559 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,115 that would mitigate negative impacts of what could be considered a cookie cutter subdivision and 560 00:55:27,050 --> 00:55:30,155 other parts of town that don't feature these unique features. Additionally, the applicant is proposing a variety of 561 00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:36,290 lotts throughout the subdivision and three distinct plan areas, some of which would are dictated per the standards of this request. 562 00:55:41,405 --> 00:55:41,405 by utilizing these different standards and incorporating that green space, 563 00:55:45,530 --> 00:55:45,530 the planning and zoning commission was of the opinion that the developer is 564 00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:50,030 proposing a unique neighborhood with good amenities for the residents, 565 00:55:55,010 --> 00:55:57,545 which are all core components of what the citizens stated that they are looking for play 2045. 566 00:56:02,450 --> 00:56:04,670 now given these buf factors, the plan and zoning commission believes this request is appropriate. 567 00:56:07,955 --> 00:56:07,955 it did recommend approval that the six vote with one member abstaining. 568 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,575 we did receive a number of comments on this item. There were 11 comments that were received with one being in support, 569 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,265 nine just being general questions. On a resident outside the city limits that 570 00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:27,290 did see one of the rezoning notice signs did express opposition as they did not want to see develop the property developed next to them. 571 00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:35,060 with that, I'll take any questions. >> questions for mr. Kendrick. 572 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:37,640 mr. Kendrick, who do you have here on behalf of this development? To answerany questions? 573 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:42,800 >> no, we are lao group is the primary developer behind this group. 574 00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:50,225 I know that's josh langham and elliot mckinney. Are the primary developers for this. 575 00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:54,010 >> well, it's 1,150 houses, is that right? 576 00:56:58,775 --> 00:57:01,220 >> one thousand one hundred and thirty eight. >> then do you know how many of those are 577 00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:09,500 going to hit that target market that's the hardest one to hit? Did they give you any price comps or goals as far as, 578 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,800 like, 250-350, 350-500? >> they didn't provide staff with those exact numbers, 579 00:57:18,620 --> 00:57:21,740 but I will say the areas on your screen there and the blue and the green, that'd be that more foldable product. 580 00:57:23,885 --> 00:57:26,300 in the area and oranges of those town home. Those will be your more affordable products. 581 00:57:28,745 --> 00:57:28,745 good portion of the subdivision would be dedicated to those price points. 582 00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:37,805 >> are they ready to develop? This is their last leg? We'll see this coming online soon, is that right? 583 00:57:39,935 --> 00:57:43,475 >> yes, so they have a primary plan that is also near an approval, and they also have their first sets of infrastructure plans, 584 00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:48,830 I believe, turned to the city for review. I believe they attend the start moving dirt later this year. 585 00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:51,980 >> really good. Nothing further on my end. 586 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,120 at this time, we'll open a public hearing. Do I have anyone who'd like to speak for or against item 7.1? 587 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:04,960 seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing and entertain a motion. 588 00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:09,740 >> I move to adopt ordinance number 8231 as presented. Second? 589 00:58:14,945 --> 00:58:17,195 >> motion and a second from the right side. All in favor. Please say aye. 590 00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:22,205 >> aye [overlapping] >> any opposed? Motion passes. Mr. Kendrick, back over to you. Item 7.2. 591 00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:25,790 >> yes. This is a public hearing and consideration of ordinance 8232. 592 00:58:30,765 --> 00:58:34,570 this is also a public hearing the first reading to consider the rezoning of 1.86 acres of land being block 1 one block 2. 593 00:58:38,595 --> 00:58:40,640 berk subdivision of block 2 of barnes highlands addition and a portion of tract two of barnes highlands addition. 594 00:58:44,435 --> 00:58:45,860 this is located at porter county, texas in the vicinity of southwest ninth and buena vista. 595 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,155 the applicant is chris collinger for frieda bethist church, and they are requesting the rezone from 596 00:58:57,365 --> 00:58:57,365 residential district 1 and multiple family district 1 to office district 2. 597 00:59:02,645 --> 00:59:06,590 they are proposing this change in zoning as they want to utilize development standards that are the applicant believes will be 598 00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:12,110 more appropriate for their site given the non residential nature of the use of 599 00:59:14,690 --> 00:59:17,915 their property and its location along southwest ninth. The applicant who is a church. 600 00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:22,550 they have some upgrades that they the bake to the property in the forthcoming months, including signage. 601 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,850 currently, the property with that zoning, they're essentially following residential type zoning 602 00:59:31,550 --> 00:59:35,330 and designations for development standards, even though there are a church. That makes some of their potential plans a little 603 00:59:37,460 --> 00:59:40,490 challenging and is the reason for the request. The church is the remaining operation and they're not planning to close or sell. 604 00:59:45,260 --> 00:59:47,810 just one of mentioned that. Upon reviewing the request and analyzing 605 00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:53,960 the existing conditions for both zoning and development patterns in the area. The planning commission noted that they are of 606 00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:59,150 the opinion that the request is appropriate for the area. You'll notice that this area property is in a transition zone between general retail to 607 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,850 the west and residential areas to the east and typically best planning practices and also city plan, 608 01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:11,750 like to incorporate good transitions and zoning between these differing uses. 609 01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:17,030 by incorporating office district 2 has zoning for this property, 610 01:00:21,305 --> 01:00:24,005 you would have a transition from gr-o2 the residential instead of going straight from gr to residential. 611 01:00:27,755 --> 01:00:31,190 on paper, that's a more desirable zoning and development pattern that you typically like to see in these type of areas. 612 01:00:34,310 --> 01:00:36,755 given all that a look, the planning commission was of the opinion that this 613 01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:43,475 does create that ideal zoning pattern for the area. The commission did forward this to you all for approval with 614 01:00:46,955 --> 01:00:50,840 a seven vote regarding public notices. We had received three comments as of today on this item that were general inquiries. 615 01:00:56,765 --> 01:00:56,765 one commodor did express opposition about potential for 616 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,380 increased sign signage along southwest ninth and potential issues that might cause for traffic visibility on ninth. 617 01:01:08,555 --> 01:01:11,450 with that, I'll take any questions. >> questions for mr. Kendrick on this item. 618 01:01:15,970 --> 01:01:18,485 only thing I would say, mr. Kendrick, your department and probably you had a pretty good hand in this 619 01:01:21,620 --> 01:01:21,620 and mr. Kloninger, reaching out. 620 01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:29,420 it's a great example of you guys looking for solutions, not just finding a reason to say no, 621 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,545 and then let them go on. I really appreciate the abilities that you give 622 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,270 this counsel to direct somebody to your staff. Say, reach out to brady or reach out to drew or cody. 623 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,990 ask them, tell them what all you're needing to accomplish. Then they'll navigate you through all the codes and standards. 624 01:01:51,335 --> 01:01:55,220 it was an excellent job of you guys walking it the long way around, but showing them the easiest way to get home. Thank you for that. 625 01:01:58,970 --> 01:02:01,250 >> yeah, no problem? >> yeah. At this time, we'll open a public hearing on item 7.2. 626 01:02:04,175 --> 01:02:04,175 I have anyone here who would like to speak for against this item. 627 01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:08,500 seeing no one will close a public hearing, ask for a motion. 628 01:02:12,605 --> 01:02:12,605 >> move to adopt ordinance 8232 as presented. 629 01:02:16,715 --> 01:02:19,685 >> second. >> motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor. Please say aye. 630 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,450 >> aye [overlapping] >> any opposed? Motion passes. Mr. Kendrick, on to 7.3? 631 01:02:28,445 --> 01:02:28,445 >> yes. This is a public period and consideration of ordinance 8233. 632 01:02:32,495 --> 01:02:36,050 this item is a first reading and consideration of the rezoning of a 23.83 acre tract of unplotted land. 633 01:02:39,875 --> 01:02:42,140 this is located at randall county, texas, in the vicinity of southeast 40th avenue, and mere street, 634 01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:49,415 the applicant is firm and land surveyors inc for pega development, llc. They are requesting the rezone from 635 01:02:51,470 --> 01:02:53,960 agricultural district to moderate density district 1, and this is on the east side of the trade win airport. 636 01:02:57,185 --> 01:02:59,630 they are proposing to develop this property with 115 additional single family homes that will be 637 01:03:02,330 --> 01:03:02,330 a continuation of the trade win airpark subdivision. 638 01:03:06,365 --> 01:03:09,740 much of this property was recently located outside city limits, so it does not have a assigned place type at this point given that. 639 01:03:14,405 --> 01:03:16,430 it is a continuation of the existing zoning and development patterns found within that subdivision. 640 01:03:19,685 --> 01:03:21,770 the planning commission felt that it was a logical continuation of the development that has already occurred out there today. 641 01:03:26,780 --> 01:03:30,230 on your screen is the proposed plat for the subdivision, just to give you an idea of what they have in mind. 642 01:03:33,290 --> 01:03:36,290 it's primarily single family detached homes, although they do have one little row of 643 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,590 town homes that are proposed along mere street there. With that, the planning and zoning commission 644 01:03:44,930 --> 01:03:47,840 did recommend approval of this with a seven vote. Go over the public comments for this one. 645 01:03:50,735 --> 01:03:54,005 we did receive nine calls on this one. Three of those are general inquiries, 646 01:03:56,345 --> 01:03:58,940 and six did express opposition. While those that did express opposition, 647 01:04:01,835 --> 01:04:05,120 for not necessarily oppose the additional single family homes. They primarily had concerns related to drainage and flooding concerns. 648 01:04:09,290 --> 01:04:11,870 I know there was a rain event there last summer that was pretty extreme that generated some street flooding in that area. 649 01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:14,780 I think that was the primary driver behind those comments and 650 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,680 a couple of other those callers that expressed concerns about traffic patterns it proposed. 651 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:24,680 on your screen now is just the show for the public that may be interested. 652 01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:31,655 the area shaded and green of the proposed development. That's the area that will drain to the existing drainage infrastructure and 653 01:04:35,780 --> 01:04:35,780 streets back to the east and the rest and white will drain to a new retention pond. 654 01:04:40,565 --> 01:04:43,205 that's being improved by the developer. Majority of the drainage for this new area, 655 01:04:45,500 --> 01:04:48,125 will go to a pond that is being improved. With that, I'll take any questions. 656 01:04:50,270 --> 01:04:50,270 >> thank you, sir. Any questions for mr. Kendrick on 73? 657 01:04:55,330 --> 01:04:58,145 no. Thank you. At this time, we'll open a public hearing on item 7.3. 658 01:05:02,450 --> 01:05:02,450 do I have anyone here who'd like to speak for or against this item? 659 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:06,640 seeing no one, will close a public hearing and would entertain a motion. 660 01:05:11,195 --> 01:05:11,195 >> move to adopt ordinance 8233 as presented. 661 01:05:16,025 --> 01:05:17,435 >> second. >> motion in a second. All in favor. Please say aye. 662 01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:24,335 >> aye [overlapping] >> any oppose? Motion passes. Let's carry on to item 7.4, sir? 663 01:05:27,005 --> 01:05:27,005 >> yeah. 7.4 is a public hearing and consideration of ordinance 8234. 664 01:05:31,685 --> 01:05:35,225 this is a public hearing and first reading of an ordinance considering the rezoning of a 6.73 acre portion of lot 48. 665 01:05:40,325 --> 01:05:43,355 block 1, south side acres unit number 25. In addition to the city of amarillo, 666 01:05:44,780 --> 01:05:46,715 this is in randall county, texas, in the vicinity of southwest 58th avenue in southwestern street. 667 01:05:50,975 --> 01:05:54,815 the applicant is thomas rhodes for netplex lp, and they are requesting the rezone from 668 01:05:56,510 --> 01:06:00,230 general retail district to general retail district with specific use permit 208 for on premise primary 669 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:03,800 use alcohol sales and service by indoor sports facility only. 670 01:06:07,925 --> 01:06:11,450 the applicant is requesting the specific use permit to be able to serve alcohol out the concession stands to patrons of the netplex facility. 671 01:06:15,410 --> 01:06:15,410 general retail zoning only allows for on premise consumption by 672 01:06:19,550 --> 01:06:19,550 restaurants and is the reason for the request of this specific use permit. 673 01:06:24,530 --> 01:06:27,320 the applicant's tract with city plan was identified as being in the reserve place type category. 674 01:06:30,170 --> 01:06:33,155 that's typically a placeholder to hold identified undeveloped areas for potential future development. 675 01:06:36,605 --> 01:06:38,750 however, in this instance is noted that the lot has already developed at the netplex facility. 676 01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:44,150 in analyzing the applicant's purpose for the request and the neighboring zoning and development patterns, 677 01:06:47,225 --> 01:06:49,340 is noted by the planning and zoning commission that light commercial district borders the property to the west, 678 01:06:52,445 --> 01:06:55,400 and that the property is located on the periphery of a commercial corridor that is focused along western street, 679 01:06:58,730 --> 01:07:02,150 and also at the intersection of 58th avenue with western street. It is noted that like within light commercial district, 680 01:07:06,260 --> 01:07:08,780 all alcohol related sales uses per the city's ordinance are allowed while in general retail district, 681 01:07:12,425 --> 01:07:12,425 of premise incidental sales and service by restaurants. 682 01:07:16,670 --> 01:07:18,650 of premise alcohol sales and temporary sales on or off premise are the only ones allowed by right. 683 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,815 regarding the location of the property, the site is located on the south side of southwest 58th avenue, 684 01:07:28,445 --> 01:07:30,980 with southwest 58th avenue classified as an arterial roadway and featuring high volumes of traffic. 685 01:07:34,415 --> 01:07:37,475 in this area, 58th functions as a dividing line, which is with more residential oriented development being located north of 58th, 686 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,780 while commercial and retail type development uses and zoning are generally located south of 58th. 687 01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:50,300 this functionally creates a dividing line and buffer in this area between these two distinctly different land use areas. 688 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:56,750 it's noted that a restaurant that's currently located in the same building holds a license to serve alcohol. 689 01:07:59,870 --> 01:08:03,155 in addition to the city of zoning regulations. Any alcohol related land use is also required to conform 690 01:08:06,530 --> 01:08:09,560 if applicable tabc license requirements with the state prior to an alcohol license being granted. 691 01:08:13,220 --> 01:08:13,220 I'll just mention that the reason this request is before you all today is that 692 01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:17,390 they did try to submit through that process and were denied because of the zoning. 693 01:08:21,650 --> 01:08:24,845 that's the reason that this request is before you all today. Given that the existing zoning patterns found in this area, 694 01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:30,890 the planning and zoning commission is of the opinion that they approved the specific use permit would 695 01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:33,380 not introduce land uses that are out of character with the allowed land uses in the area, 696 01:08:38,405 --> 01:08:38,405 given the presence of the commercial district immediately to the west of the property, 697 01:08:42,515 --> 01:08:45,635 and also the fact that this property has been able to serve alcohol, although noted to be associated with the restaurant. 698 01:08:48,515 --> 01:08:50,480 in the interest of limiting the range of potential alcohol related land uses that are able to operate at this location, 699 01:08:55,190 --> 01:08:57,710 the planning and zoning commission did make the recommendation that the specific use permit, 700 01:09:00,245 --> 01:09:03,995 as requested, only applies to an indoor sports facility. In the event that the building never changes uses, 701 01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:11,330 future consideration of the specific use permit would be required. If a different land user wanted to serve alcohol that was not 702 01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:18,290 an indoor sports facility or an alcohol related land use that is not allowed by right in general retail district. 703 01:09:22,850 --> 01:09:25,700 the base zoning uses that are allowed with gr of alcohol would still be allowed in addition to allowing 704 01:09:28,460 --> 01:09:31,670 the use with an indoor sports facility is essentially what planning and zoning commission forwarded to you all as a recommendation today. 705 01:09:36,650 --> 01:09:40,370 with that, public comment wise, we received four comments in opposition to this request. 706 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,385 I'll just summarize the comments that we've received. Concerns about the establishment hosting youth sporting events. 707 01:09:50,570 --> 01:09:50,570 daycare and church are located in close proximity to the location. 708 01:09:55,070 --> 01:09:58,850 the request may not conform with tabc regulations, recent altercations at sporting events in the city in recent months. 709 01:10:02,690 --> 01:10:05,945 if the use ever changes a bark co potentially open. Traffic on southwest 58th avenue is hazardous and introducing 710 01:10:09,215 --> 01:10:13,070 more alcohol related land uses in this area. Could lead to more dwis and accidents. 711 01:10:15,935 --> 01:10:19,235 amarillo has a dwi problem and adding more alcohol uses the commenter felt like would not be wise. 712 01:10:23,015 --> 01:10:26,915 that's a summary of the comments that the planning department received on this. The staff recommendation from p and z was 713 01:10:29,435 --> 01:10:32,630 a recommendation of approval with the seven vote to recommend this specific use permit with 714 01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:38,795 that caveat that's for an indoor sports facility only. With that, I'll take any questions. 715 01:10:41,465 --> 01:10:45,430 >> questions for mr. Kendrick. >> the address for the restaurant and the netplex is identical. 716 01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:52,390 >> yeah. It's 3723 southwest 58th, 717 01:10:57,455 --> 01:10:59,255 both the same address. There's already a license issued for that address. 718 01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:06,395 even if we rezone, can an establishment have two liquor license at the same address? 719 01:11:14,350 --> 01:11:17,645 >> I can help answer that one, councilmember reid. Other than a hotel, they cannot, 720 01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:23,360 unless they've got separate suites within an address. For example, I'll use c market, 721 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,140 which is a variance we did not too long ago. That's at 34th in georgia. That's a shopping center. 722 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:30,160 there's different suites, and so each of those suites can have a permit. 723 01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:38,410 otherwise, one address is one permit. >> part of my concern, 724 01:11:41,135 --> 01:11:41,135 the way the statute reads, section 25.13, 725 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,430 the physical address on a permit includes all areas at the address where the permit holder may sell for immediate consumption. 726 01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:59,285 I'm looking at that, the way the law is written, there's already a permit to sell alcohol, 727 01:12:02,690 --> 01:12:06,680 as long as the holder of that permit is the one selling it. I'm thinking that there's probably an easier way to do this than 728 01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:13,265 rezoning is you let the restaurant expand that outside perimeter that they 729 01:12:17,780 --> 01:12:17,780 have that would allow the consumption of alcohol that they sold. 730 01:12:24,970 --> 01:12:28,370 >> I believe with this property, and the applicant may be able to speak more to this, 731 01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:31,100 but I believe it's already divided in the suites and they have different address points, 732 01:12:35,930 --> 01:12:38,870 because I believe the restaurant is physically separated inside from the rest of the space. 733 01:12:42,050 --> 01:12:42,050 but then when it comes to the zoning aspect of it, though, 734 01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:46,430 the reason before you all today is that general retail by 735 01:12:50,510 --> 01:12:50,510 right only allows that on premise consumption associated with a restaurant. 736 01:12:54,980 --> 01:12:54,980 if you try to blend those two uses together, 737 01:12:59,030 --> 01:13:02,420 that gets tricky when it comes to the calculations of food sales with the sales associated with netplex and the alcohol sales. 738 01:13:06,140 --> 01:13:06,140 I think that's the reason why this has all been separated from the start, 739 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,730 if I'm correct in that. >> if I can add, the current permit for san jose mexican restaurant is for suite 100, 740 01:13:20,150 --> 01:13:23,645 so it is limited to a footprint within the netplex. If they were to reapply and to get a permit for all of that facility, 741 01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:28,220 then they could work with the restaurant and sell alcohol at any part of that property. 742 01:13:38,130 --> 01:13:38,130 >> the only other issue that was raised by your comments, 743 01:13:43,525 --> 01:13:46,045 and I went out there. I took a nice tour. I took measurements from the church to the front of the property, 744 01:13:51,170 --> 01:13:51,170 and then around to the daycare and it fits within the state statutes, 745 01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:56,870 tabc statutes for those things. 746 01:14:00,905 --> 01:14:03,740 just trying to do a little bit more due diligence, you'd be surprised how many liquor stores and restaurants that serve alcohol 747 01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:09,350 are within that distance here in amarillo to churches and hospitals and other daycares. 748 01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:23,315 the problem I'm having is there's already that license, even though it's been divided into suites, 749 01:14:26,735 --> 01:14:30,215 it comes back to that same address. I don't know if that's an issue that the city should be concerned with, 750 01:14:33,665 --> 01:14:36,980 or that's the issue that that's tabc and all we have to be is deciding whether or not this thing's rezoned. 751 01:14:41,585 --> 01:14:44,480 >> well, it's a separate entity as well. So you think of a strip center. 752 01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:49,640 if they have separate suites, you have a liquor store on one end. May have a, whatever, boutique on the other. 753 01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:54,485 if they want to sell liquor, they can't, even though it's the same building, 754 01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:59,510 but it's just different suites. I would think that this would be the same thing because you're looking at two different entities. 755 01:15:01,175 --> 01:15:02,915 would be my guess. I don't know that. But that'd be my guess. 756 01:15:07,420 --> 01:15:10,160 >> mr. Kendrick, tell us about the denial. I'm unclear on who denied. 757 01:15:11,870 --> 01:15:14,825 was it tabc that denied the application? >> as part of the process, 758 01:15:17,810 --> 01:15:21,500 the city goes through whenever requests are submitted through stephanie. We screen all the requests, 759 01:15:23,735 --> 01:15:23,735 and this one failed because of the zoning of the property because you had an entity, 760 01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:31,130 because the way to look at it, it's the same parent address, but because each of them are separated with their own suite addresses, 761 01:15:34,220 --> 01:15:37,010 essentially, they each have their own independent address. We received a request that was a non restaurant that wanted to 762 01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:40,870 serve for on premise consumption and because gr only 763 01:15:45,670 --> 01:15:48,225 allows for on premise consumption by a restaurant or associated with a temporary event planning 764 01:15:51,545 --> 01:15:51,545 to make that recommendation or sign off on denying it because of the zoning issue. 765 01:15:59,150 --> 01:16:01,490 >> netplex as an entity for sporting event center was denied based on the fact that they're not a restaurant, 766 01:16:06,590 --> 01:16:08,960 it's a gr, general retail. >> that's correct. >> so you could rezone the whole thing, what? Like commercial? 767 01:16:12,980 --> 01:16:15,005 >> that's a potential as well. There were some concerns about that just because, 768 01:16:17,450 --> 01:16:20,705 like commercial, the further north and east we get, we're starting to get closer to some of those single family areas. 769 01:16:23,540 --> 01:16:27,110 the reason we recommended going the sup route was to not also introduce all those additional uses that are allowed in lc, 770 01:16:31,490 --> 01:16:31,490 that may not be appropriate for such close proximity to a single family area. 771 01:16:36,875 --> 01:16:39,680 >> mr. Balzon, I know you can probably add to this? >> yes, sir. Sorry about my voice. 772 01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:43,490 it's kind of gone a little bit. But yes, in terms of units, 773 01:16:46,415 --> 01:16:46,415 it's the same that we usually see for building safety cos and stuff as well. 774 01:16:51,515 --> 01:16:55,190 each individual unit in a building has its own co, so they operate on their own. 775 01:16:57,125 --> 01:16:59,945 this one did come in and got denied, as brady is saying, 776 01:17:01,310 --> 01:17:04,790 because it was submitted as a netplex facility, a sports facility, and not a restaurant as an incidental use to that. 777 01:17:09,725 --> 01:17:12,845 this was then brought back to us. P&z was the one that put the limit 778 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:15,200 on the recommendation for it to be only for an indoor sports facility. 779 01:17:22,205 --> 01:17:25,580 the way our ordinance is broken down is whether this is incidental or primary use for sales of alcohol. 780 01:17:30,965 --> 01:17:30,965 we do note, and we did note the use of the sale of alcohol by the restaurant and 781 01:17:38,450 --> 01:17:38,450 the ability for them to potentially even allow the sales to basically transfer out, 782 01:17:45,485 --> 01:17:45,485 somebody take a can from one unit to the next unit, 783 01:17:49,610 --> 01:17:51,845 if that's how they operate, allowing to bring those alcohol in. 784 01:17:54,575 --> 01:17:58,130 however, we wouldn't allow them at that time to sell the alcohol out of the actual netplex facility. 785 01:18:03,665 --> 01:18:03,665 whenever we bring you the recommendation and something that p&z considers as well, 786 01:18:09,245 --> 01:18:11,705 is that actual fact that you're talking about, why didn't they just open it up 787 01:18:14,210 --> 01:18:16,865 and have the restaurant sell the alcohol and they take it over there? Well, exactly. 788 01:18:18,590 --> 01:18:18,590 that's one of our points as well is we're talking about incidental use from a restaurant, 789 01:18:23,630 --> 01:18:26,075 incidental use from another use as well. How much do we want to separate those kind of incidental uses, 790 01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:33,245 and their ability, again, just to be able to take that drink across to another unit of the same building? 791 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,995 >> what you're saying is that's a possibility? >> it's a possibility, 792 01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:47,300 how they structure their units and their tenants and the sales of alcohol that they want on there, yes. 793 01:18:54,910 --> 01:18:57,860 >> the operator is here, right? Yeah. Can you come up? 794 01:19:03,190 --> 01:19:03,190 >> I will make note. All of our comments are being based 795 01:19:07,550 --> 01:19:11,030 on city's regulations and not tabc's regulations, they do have to meet all tabc [overlapping] well. 796 01:19:13,055 --> 01:19:15,200 >> because ultimately they still have to go through the application process to tabc to get that license. 797 01:19:18,815 --> 01:19:21,155 >> ye, sir. >> you could be rejected for that? >> yes, sir. >> okay. In your comments, 798 01:19:28,460 --> 01:19:32,120 you said that you wouldn't be selling it during sporting events, uil, any youth activity events that are going on there. 799 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,310 the intent is for what? >> adult pickle ball. >> okay. 800 01:19:40,820 --> 01:19:43,910 >> yeah. We have a huge adult 18-35, and then really over 50 demographic, 801 01:19:46,940 --> 01:19:49,715 who uses the netplex for pickle ball, and they've requested to be able to just have a beer after they play. 802 01:19:56,830 --> 01:19:56,830 >> the pickle ball is all day long? 803 01:20:01,145 --> 01:20:04,760 what are the hours? >> the netplex opens at 8:00 am, closes at 9:00 pm. 804 01:20:07,330 --> 01:20:07,330 I doubt anybody's going to be drinking a beer at 9:00 in the morning. 805 01:20:13,630 --> 01:20:16,730 >> closes at 10:00? >> 9:00 pm. >> 9:00? Okay. The daycare center, 806 01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:24,495 they're open from 7:00-5:00, right? >> the daycare center closes for, 807 01:20:27,535 --> 01:20:30,910 I think, extended pickup at 6:00. It's not connected. There's no access to the daycare center through the netplex, 808 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,090 so it's its own entity with its own access. I think they close at 6:00. 809 01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:39,865 I talked to billy about that. I think they generally close about 5:00 and late pick up is at 6:00. 810 01:20:42,940 --> 01:20:44,380 >> if I remember correctly, their entrance is all the way around the corner in the back. 811 01:20:47,665 --> 01:20:49,570 >> yes, sir. Yeah. We can't even get through it like through a backdoor, anything through the netplex. 812 01:20:52,775 --> 01:20:56,360 >> but there's no connection between the two buildings. It's basically a separate [overlapping]? >> yes. They're a separate tenant. 813 01:20:58,055 --> 01:21:01,520 yes. As is san jose mexican restaurant, a separate tenant. >> but san jose has a doorway, 814 01:21:03,470 --> 01:21:05,375 they have a connection to the netplex. >> well, no, that is now has a panic bar that has an alarm on it. 815 01:21:09,935 --> 01:21:13,580 fire safety has said it has to be accessible for egress, but they can't go out it. 816 01:21:16,925 --> 01:21:19,625 there's no flow of alcohol through, or flow of anything through their traffic [overlapping]. 817 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,660 >> the only way is going through that front door? >> yes, sir. 818 01:21:26,350 --> 01:21:26,350 >> I'll bring up a couple of issues that fisher and I talked for about 45 minutes sunday. 819 01:21:32,195 --> 01:21:35,060 but I do like the specific use. I think there's some concerns from the citizens, 820 01:21:37,595 --> 01:21:41,570 what if netplex goes out of business that a bar comes in, because they're going to leverage that. 821 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,125 I love that it's specific use. It can only be a sports facility. 822 01:21:47,385 --> 01:21:49,285 you look at chicken and pickle, you look at top golf. 823 01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:54,155 similar situations. Kids can go to them. It's constant alcohol. 824 01:21:56,405 --> 01:21:58,820 we've got vader, it's a pool, and there's alcohol there with kids. 825 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,470 am I correct in saying that the alcohol has to be consumed in a restricted area? Is that correct? 826 01:22:09,410 --> 01:22:12,485 >> yes. That'll be the lounge area, not on courts. It can't move. We've got double doors that lead to each set of courts, 827 01:22:15,170 --> 01:22:15,170 so the volleyball, basketball courts to the right and pickle ball to the left. 828 01:22:19,850 --> 01:22:23,480 yeah, they have to stay in the center lounge area. >> so it can't be taken out? >> it can't be moved to a court. No. 829 01:22:25,535 --> 01:22:25,535 >> another issue that people brought up was what about the parents getting mad at games, 830 01:22:30,995 --> 01:22:32,240 which we've obviously seen. We've all been in tents at our kids games and that kind of thing. 831 01:22:35,315 --> 01:22:38,285 my thinking on that is, we've got a restaurant right there. If they want to go take shots and then go watch their games, 832 01:22:40,850 --> 01:22:44,630 they're going to go do that; lot more detrimental than drinking beer, I think is what's going to be served. 833 01:22:46,775 --> 01:22:50,645 also, if you're dealing with that top parent, they've got their vehicle. If that's their issue, and they want to drink, 834 01:22:53,390 --> 01:22:56,690 then they can go to their vehicle, drink whatever they want to drink and go watch their kids game. I don't think serving beer in a restricted area is going to lead to additional violence. 835 01:23:02,675 --> 01:23:06,340 I could be wrong, but I just don't think that that's the case. Then security. 836 01:23:09,515 --> 01:23:11,240 do you guys provide security at all? >> we do. We contract with our tournament directors. 837 01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:16,370 they underwrite the cost or they pay for the cost, the expense of apd. 838 01:23:18,245 --> 01:23:18,245 we have two officers whenever is needed, 839 01:23:22,700 --> 01:23:22,700 not just one, and it's the apd officers. Yes, sir. 840 01:23:27,215 --> 01:23:29,900 >> so we have officers on site during uil. >> yes, sir. If we have large tournaments, 841 01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:34,925 boxing, jutsu, volleyball, basketball, if they're needed, we have them. Yes. 842 01:23:36,185 --> 01:23:39,710 >> so they would help restrict someone. Okay. >> yes. >> okay. 843 01:23:40,270 --> 01:23:42,920 >> we don't allow outside food and beverages in. So it's well restricted. 844 01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:49,055 >> thank you. >> councilman. >> just to confirm, 845 01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:55,100 the request meets the distance requirements from daycare, church, and any other facilities as dictated by law, correct? 846 01:23:59,105 --> 01:23:59,105 >> I would not be able to answer that because planning wouldn't do that review. 847 01:24:04,775 --> 01:24:07,400 >> I can answer that. >> but they will have to, yes. >> okay. >> we were awarded last january, january 3. 848 01:24:10,745 --> 01:24:12,860 we were awarded a tabc license. We provided all of the data, all of the maps. 849 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,295 tabc came out and walked the facility. We were awarded that license. 850 01:24:21,845 --> 01:24:24,440 then two days later, san jose mexican restaurant came in and requested a lease, 851 01:24:30,095 --> 01:24:30,095 and so we opted to forego that to abandon it, 852 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,190 to allow san jose mexican restaurant, which is an independent entity to be successful because we want that in our community. 853 01:24:41,570 --> 01:24:44,210 they're successful restaurant operators from another state who have relocated their business here, 854 01:24:47,165 --> 01:24:50,510 and they needed alcohol sales to be successful, and we felt like we had come up against 855 01:24:53,660 --> 01:24:53,660 a roadblock with the city and the way that we needed to rezone. 856 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:00,040 spent a considerable amount of money and worked with stephanie to be in line, 857 01:25:05,675 --> 01:25:09,140 spend a considerable amount of money to get that license, and then quickly abandon it in favor of san jose, 858 01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:15,890 just to do what was right. >> councilmember simpson, if I can add. The city secretary's office certifies these applications when they come through the city, 859 01:25:20,735 --> 01:25:20,735 and we are certifying that the proposed alcohol sells align with the city code. 860 01:25:26,420 --> 01:25:26,420 we measure the distance to churches and to schools and to any public hospitals, 861 01:25:32,150 --> 01:25:34,790 which we don't have anymore, and that's with our code. We do not have daycares in our code, 862 01:25:36,230 --> 01:25:40,210 so we do not look at any sort of distance to a daycare. >> now, on the restaurant, 863 01:25:42,380 --> 01:25:45,695 is it a full service restaurant, beer, wine, and liquor? >> yes, sir. 864 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,250 >> can you take something out of a restaurant somewhere else? Right now no one can take it elsewhere. 865 01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:58,505 >> no, you can't walk about in the state of texas, would be my understanding. I think I'm correct on that. 866 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:00,080 like they can't walk out and walk around and we don't allow outside food and beverage in. 867 01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:09,020 you can't come in with anything other than a water bottle. >> but I guess I don't know whether councilmember reid was saying 868 01:26:12,170 --> 01:26:12,170 whether that individual license could serve both facilities? 869 01:26:16,725 --> 01:26:16,725 >> but then the other facility where you're just requesting beer and wine, 870 01:26:21,025 --> 01:26:23,845 then that would allow the sale of hard liquor, and we opened it up to that. 871 01:26:26,305 --> 01:26:26,305 but I thought so anybody that consumes it is supposed to stay in that area, 872 01:26:30,430 --> 01:26:30,430 and then you said, you're going to have a area, not that it's required, 873 01:26:34,570 --> 01:26:36,880 but when someone purchases alcohol, they have to stay in the area and they can't go back out to 874 01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,895 the courts or to watch more pickleball or volleyball, the thing is to stay in that one part area. 875 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:47,040 when it looks at the number of youth events that you think you have in a year, 876 01:26:52,645 --> 01:26:54,850 how many youth events do you have? >> I'm on average about 12-15 a year. 877 01:26:57,580 --> 01:27:00,565 sometimes we have one a month. Sometimes we have more than one a month. We host a lot of corporate functions, 878 01:27:04,030 --> 01:27:04,030 pickleball matches and outings with churches. 879 01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:13,660 pickleball powerplay is a large event. We have about 250 people, that's this weekend, who have registered. 880 01:27:16,405 --> 01:27:16,405 the economic impact of that is we've got people coming in for three and four nights. 881 01:27:20,590 --> 01:27:22,330 it's not a youth event. Really not a ton, 12-15 a year. 882 01:27:27,535 --> 01:27:29,680 >> but when you had those events, there's security there or other things that are available there. 883 01:27:33,685 --> 01:27:36,205 then I wasn't aware of this. While netplex may be owned by individuals, 884 01:27:39,010 --> 01:27:42,025 it's managed by the sports facilities companies. >> yes, sir. My company, 885 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,285 rci sports management here in amarillo. We've been operating and managing facilities across the us, 886 01:27:50,095 --> 01:27:50,095 and then we were recently acquired last week by the industry leader, 887 01:27:54,685 --> 01:27:57,400 sports facilities companies based out of clearwater, florida. They have 135 facilities around the country. 888 01:28:00,775 --> 01:28:00,775 goodness, $960 million in economic impact through their sf network facilities. 889 01:28:06,670 --> 01:28:06,670 trusted leader since 2003 so they've been around the block. 890 01:28:12,820 --> 01:28:12,820 they've had alcohol in their facilities for a considerable amount of time. 891 01:28:18,030 --> 01:28:20,395 in our facilities as well, we've not had any issues related to alcohol use. 892 01:28:23,395 --> 01:28:24,940 in our kansas facility, we had a ksa event last week, 893 01:28:28,315 --> 01:28:30,310 and we elected not to serve alcohol. Ksa is like kansas uil. 894 01:28:34,050 --> 01:28:37,360 we can make the call, which is great. If we have 250 people coming 895 01:28:40,090 --> 01:28:42,910 in for a pickleball event and they want to have a beer, we'd love to have that. If we have 2,000 coming in for a volleyball event, 896 01:28:45,445 --> 01:28:48,010 that is sun country regional volleyball, so all the way from albuquerque to down to lubbock. 897 01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:54,600 it may not be the best time to serve alcohol. I'm a mother of four. 898 01:28:56,665 --> 01:29:00,145 my kids have played kids inc, everything through here. I have four sons. Every sporting event we've played in amarillo, 899 01:29:03,865 --> 01:29:03,865 and we hear communities concerns on that, 900 01:29:09,115 --> 01:29:09,115 and I think it's reasonable moderation is what we're seeking. 901 01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:14,020 >> is that the philosophy, I guess that you have across all the facilities, 902 01:29:18,265 --> 01:29:21,970 making judgment calls on alcohol? >> yes, sir. >> thank you. Mrs. Stroud, 903 01:29:26,995 --> 01:29:26,995 sup is for seven acres or just the common area. 904 01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:35,635 or mr. Kendrick, how do you have this written? >> the request applies to the essentially the building and the parking lot, 905 01:29:40,540 --> 01:29:44,170 which is the entirety of the 6.73 acres. >> we're doing the sup for the entirety of the property not just the common area? 906 01:29:50,065 --> 01:29:52,270 >> it applies to a whole building. >> then lease modification is an option. 907 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,410 I guess if you had a willing tenant, you could modify the lease to grow out into the common area. 908 01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,240 no issue on our side with the city secretary approval for there to be alcohol on premise in a common area, 909 01:30:08,050 --> 01:30:10,570 per se, it's just restricted right now because of the lease agreement for the size of the restaurant. 910 01:30:14,335 --> 01:30:16,930 >> no issue on the city secretary's side. If the zoning were to change in the land use allowed for it, 911 01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:22,750 we could certify on that. It would then be up to tabc to go through their process and approve. 912 01:30:27,220 --> 01:30:30,115 >> it seems like the longest way to go on a very specialized variance for 913 01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:33,430 an sup to service customers that are already being serviced. 914 01:30:38,890 --> 01:30:38,890 if you have a tenant that has a competitive edge per their lease, 915 01:30:43,345 --> 01:30:46,240 those are their customers that are wanting to come in and sit down and have that beer in between pickleball games, 916 01:30:49,060 --> 01:30:52,930 I think is the way they're viewing that and so is there no way to just modify the lease and get it out from in front of this council? 917 01:30:56,815 --> 01:30:56,815 it doesn't seem like a zoning issue for us. 918 01:31:01,180 --> 01:31:02,930 it's definitely not typical. It seems much more like a tenant issue between a landlord. 919 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,845 >> can I step in right there for [overlapping] >> yes, ma'am. >> I think the issue is that the restaurant's footprint is limited to suite 920 01:31:16,645 --> 01:31:16,645 100 and right now land use says you cannot serve alcohol without a restaurant. 921 01:31:22,990 --> 01:31:25,630 you can't take that alcohol outside of that footprint of that suite to the rest of the netplex facility. 922 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:29,680 >> but then in monetizing those potential alcohol sales. 923 01:31:33,930 --> 01:31:37,080 if the footprint grows into the indoor patio of the restaurant and the restaurant sells the alcohol through the concession stand, 924 01:31:41,735 --> 01:31:43,780 your permits already in place. >> but that revenue doesn't go back to the netplex. 925 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,510 that goes back to the restaurant tour? >> correct, which has the license. They're the license holder. 926 01:31:51,190 --> 01:31:51,190 I can't help but feel like that's their issues like the lessee is the one who has 927 01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:56,920 the tabc license for this particular issue. 928 01:32:03,145 --> 01:32:04,795 >> nobody has an issue. >> I'm not saying the issue of that lessee issue. 929 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,690 I should not use the word issue. I should say the lessee has the advantage of having the tabc license per the zoning. 930 01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:18,610 we're going to rezone it with a special use permit just to allow alcohol cells in the common area, correct? 931 01:32:25,135 --> 01:32:28,650 >> special case. >> mrs. Stroud, thank you for being here. I appreciate that. 932 01:32:32,650 --> 01:32:35,290 we haven't gotten to our public hearing yet. We definitely got to our questions. 933 01:32:37,630 --> 01:32:39,250 before mr. Kendrick sits down, do we have anything further from counsel? 934 01:32:41,740 --> 01:32:45,100 I'm sure we're going to be able to hear from a few people in our public. At this time, I'd like to open up a public hearing. 935 01:32:47,860 --> 01:32:49,750 let anyone speak that would like to. Please raise your hand if you'd like to give comment here on this item. 936 01:32:55,230 --> 01:32:55,230 mr. Fisher, you look to be up first. 937 01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:02,940 >> I have more than three minutes. 938 01:33:07,225 --> 01:33:10,870 I hope that you'll give that I'll spread around to give equal [overlapping] >> mr. Fisher, I know you're not used to this, 939 01:33:13,150 --> 01:33:13,150 but we don't necessarily limit conversation here, 940 01:33:17,740 --> 01:33:21,175 but you work as quickly as you can and try to work from there. >> I've got a handout. 941 01:33:22,795 --> 01:33:22,795 I'm going to try to be nice because you guys gave me a couple of wins. 942 01:33:28,495 --> 01:33:31,435 I'm going to do my best to be nice. >> hand them to mr. Freeman, 943 01:33:32,860 --> 01:33:32,860 if you will. Thank you. 944 01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:42,310 >> I was just watching the body language of people around here, like the people that work here, 945 01:33:44,530 --> 01:33:47,890 like the city secretary and andrew freeman. I saw when they were saying certain things, 946 01:33:51,235 --> 01:33:53,970 andrew freeman was nodding his head. Why does our city pitch for somebody? 947 01:33:58,555 --> 01:34:02,380 why is our city sales pitching for this? It really seems like they're really going out of their way to make sure this 948 01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:07,300 happens and the zoning board did the same thing. 949 01:34:12,205 --> 01:34:16,180 what I've given you is a conflict list. Really mr. Simpson, I think you should abstain. 950 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:20,680 you've had a history of carrying water for the underwood law firm. 951 01:34:25,810 --> 01:34:25,810 if you want to smile, do you have something to say? Do you want to say something? 952 01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,880 remember when we were going to hire that outside law firm, I wrote it down, you went to bat. 953 01:34:36,940 --> 01:34:39,415 you said we already have counsel. We know who you're talking about underwood law firm. 954 01:34:42,145 --> 01:34:44,920 that's who you're talking about. That's who you were going to bat for. That's who you're carrying water for. 955 01:34:46,930 --> 01:34:50,080 who owned the house that you live in right now? Alan rhodes of the underwood law firm, 956 01:34:52,405 --> 01:34:54,490 the guy that's applying for this. Who owned one of the houses you lived in, mr. Freeman? 957 01:34:58,435 --> 01:35:01,405 alan rhodes of the underwood law firm. That may explain the head nodding and they're going to back for these guys. 958 01:35:06,820 --> 01:35:09,845 there's something else going on. Who's carrying the water. The city secretary, if you look at one of those pages, 959 01:35:12,690 --> 01:35:14,370 I didn't keep a copy of myself. But one of those pages where the city secretary wrote the words grandfathered. 960 01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:21,150 the word grandfathered is not in tabc code. 961 01:35:27,035 --> 01:35:30,375 again, we're carrying water and we're doing things for people. There's other businesses in this town that have gone years. 962 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,980 remember, when you stopped the tabc license from being applied to the business on sixth street, 963 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,280 I don't have any connection with those guys. I remember just sitting here watching. 964 01:35:44,970 --> 01:35:48,070 you guys talked for 30 minutes. I think one of you guys said, 965 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,710 let's just get this over with. It just kept going on and on. 966 01:35:55,915 --> 01:35:58,000 why didn't you talk about this today? You didn't talk much about it against it or or doing the right thing. 967 01:36:02,350 --> 01:36:04,645 in regards to the daycare, everything that I see says that a daycare 968 01:36:08,710 --> 01:36:08,710 applies here and a daycare starts at the property line. 969 01:36:13,975 --> 01:36:13,975 that daycare is within the property line of the whole business. 970 01:36:18,505 --> 01:36:21,910 I ask for transparency. You guys might have seen my page. I don't know if I put it in there. 971 01:36:24,250 --> 01:36:24,250 to the board members for the planning and zoning, 972 01:36:31,075 --> 01:36:33,940 they said this board doesn't decide who drinks alcohol. This board shouldn't even decide what land use is. 973 01:36:37,630 --> 01:36:39,640 they said that. There wasn't any discussion about alcohol, 974 01:36:43,015 --> 01:36:47,005 and the whole permit was only about alcohol. This needs to be sent back. 975 01:36:48,385 --> 01:36:51,865 I'm asking for transparency. Let's say everything works. Let's say you guys are okay with this. 976 01:36:54,990 --> 01:36:54,990 let's go through the process that it's supposed. Let's educate. 977 01:37:01,660 --> 01:37:01,660 >> mr. Fisher, we'll stop the beep here. 978 01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:11,080 >> mr. Fisher, let's give everybody their time. We may not have anybody else here that wants to speak. 979 01:37:13,975 --> 01:37:16,870 then I'll call on you. I'll let you make one final statement. 980 01:37:19,795 --> 01:37:22,615 would you like to make it now or after everybody else speak? >> if you decide, I can be on the record. 981 01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:27,910 >> mr. Henry in the back please. Mr. Fisher. 982 01:37:33,130 --> 01:37:36,355 >> put him on the list. >> one comment, and then we'll move forward, sir. >> if you do pass this, 983 01:37:38,290 --> 01:37:41,725 I think you should tie it to the naics code, and that will make it definite that it has to apply to 984 01:37:45,490 --> 01:37:45,490 whatever that type of businesses because if we just say sports complex, 985 01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:53,230 that could be anything. Thank you. >> point taken. Thank you, sir. 986 01:37:55,210 --> 01:37:55,210 next hand that I saw go up is mrs. Benson in the back. 987 01:37:59,290 --> 01:37:59,290 if you'll come forward, kim. 988 01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:11,650 >> good afternoon. Is this mic on now? Kim benson, amarillo, texas. 989 01:38:13,810 --> 01:38:13,810 I did attend that board meeting because I was in the kid business for 31 years. 990 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:19,240 it bothers me if we're going to put alcohol where kids are. 991 01:38:24,265 --> 01:38:26,830 world has changed. We know that. We're seeing the fights at sporting events. 992 01:38:29,875 --> 01:38:33,265 luckily, as raising my child, I didn't have to experience that. But you add alcohol to the mix. 993 01:38:36,085 --> 01:38:39,445 that's not a good combination, guys. I'm sitting here listening to you guys and 994 01:38:41,740 --> 01:38:44,020 it sounds like you've already got your mind made up. Mr. Fisher did make a good point. 995 01:38:46,450 --> 01:38:46,450 I open records request everything to do with this property. 996 01:38:51,730 --> 01:38:55,435 it was a struggle this time to get this open records. Back and forth with phone calls, 997 01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,225 didn't understand the address that I put. I put the address, I put what was in that planning and zoning agenda. 998 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:05,680 I put vicinity, use the city's words. 999 01:39:09,685 --> 01:39:13,075 stephanie and I went back and forth. We did get there. But when the request came through, 1000 01:39:15,325 --> 01:39:15,325 I got an email that stated that they were not going to give me what I was asking 1001 01:39:20,350 --> 01:39:20,350 for and that they did not have to appeal to the attorney general's office. 1002 01:39:25,885 --> 01:39:28,945 I'm like, what? What's going on here? I re read and finally I did come 1003 01:39:32,050 --> 01:39:35,215 to the conclusion that they were going to exclude email addresses. But then I could not get open on my portal what she was giving me. 1004 01:39:41,350 --> 01:39:44,875 I had to go back and say, I can't open this up, where is it? I finally did get a few of the things that I was asking for. 1005 01:39:48,685 --> 01:39:50,725 one of the things I did not get, which is a bothersome to me, 1006 01:39:52,990 --> 01:39:56,245 and this relates to what mr. Fisher is talking about. I said, please include any documentation, 1007 01:39:59,230 --> 01:40:01,690 legal memos, ethic disclosures, recusal statements or records of 1008 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:03,640 internal discussion involving potential conflicts of interest, 1009 01:40:08,170 --> 01:40:08,170 particularly regarding outside legal counsel alan rhodes, 1010 01:40:12,220 --> 01:40:13,600 which is the applicant of this rezoning who is identified as the applicant for netplex lp, 1011 01:40:20,425 --> 01:40:23,890 and has served in legal capacity for the city of amarillo. If mr. Rhodes or any affiliated parties 1012 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:27,160 participated in city business related to this permit or location, 1013 01:40:31,780 --> 01:40:35,725 please provide that documentation. I didn't get that. I did not call back because I was done at this point. 1014 01:40:40,255 --> 01:40:43,360 it just seems like what mr. Fisher said. Sometimes we do special favors for certain people in this town. We all know it. 1015 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,815 it's not hidden. Guys, really do what's right in your heart for our kids of our community. 1016 01:40:54,940 --> 01:40:57,625 protect our kids. Thank you. >> thank you, mrs. Benson. Have anyone else here who'd like to speak? 1017 01:41:01,375 --> 01:41:04,435 yes, ma'am in the white shirt if you come forward. Can we get your name again, please? 1018 01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:12,415 >> my name is katie alexander. Just recapping what she just said. 1019 01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:17,990 >> I don't think that and what I had said earlier, I guess, 1020 01:41:25,190 --> 01:41:25,190 it seems like we're going through a lot of trouble just to be able to sell alcohol 1021 01:41:30,270 --> 01:41:30,270 and to be able to make this extra money selling alcohol. 1022 01:41:35,775 --> 01:41:35,775 like she had spoke with the san jose restaurant opening, 1023 01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:44,895 it was like right after they had put the application in, and they chose not to go through with that application 1024 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:49,800 because the restaurant had put a lease application in, 1025 01:41:55,020 --> 01:41:58,065 and they wanted them to succeed. I don't know why now, 1026 01:42:01,815 --> 01:42:04,605 they've been open a little while, why that has changed as to why that would still take away from their alcohol sales, 1027 01:42:12,150 --> 01:42:15,945 which if that was their intention, then I don't understand why it's changing other than to make money off of pickleball, 1028 01:42:22,965 --> 01:42:25,695 which also is like, cornhole was real popular. 1029 01:42:28,695 --> 01:42:28,695 now it's pickleball so it's one of these things that it's like is it worth going through 1030 01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:38,100 all of this and all of the bad things that could happen when 1031 01:42:42,510 --> 01:42:42,510 you add alcohol to sports or whatever. 1032 01:42:47,340 --> 01:42:47,340 is it going to be worth it whenever the fad ends or somebody else buys. 1033 01:42:54,735 --> 01:42:58,245 it's no longer a sports plex. I just think that if we're going on intentions and setting a good example for our youth, 1034 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,630 we need encouraging alcohol? That is, I would assume our apd would think that is not cool, 1035 01:43:17,745 --> 01:43:21,270 or that's not what we advocate for, as we tell our kids, drinking is bad, even until you're 25 when your brain is fully mature. 1036 01:43:28,670 --> 01:43:28,670 we've all seen the things that can happen with alcohol use, 1037 01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,360 and I just don't understand why we're pushing for alcohol use in something that should be I would say innocent, 1038 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,975 and I don't think that using a fad, a pickle ball is the excuse that we should be using. 1039 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,735 let's keep in mind, yes, even if the daycare zoning doesn't matter, again, 1040 01:43:55,985 --> 01:43:59,195 those are people's parents or kids, and I don't think that if they're open until 6:00, 1041 01:44:03,110 --> 01:44:03,110 I'll be damned, there's going to be somebody drinking a beer before 6 o'clock. 1042 01:44:07,630 --> 01:44:07,630 I just think that we need to think about the kids and keeping the kids safe, 1043 01:44:11,925 --> 01:44:15,120 and this is something that we have control over. Let's keep our kids safe. 1044 01:44:16,845 --> 01:44:18,270 >> thank you, ma'am. >> you're welcome. >> do I have anyone else who wants to speak on this item? 1045 01:44:20,955 --> 01:44:20,955 yes, ma'am. If you'll come forward and give your name, please. 1046 01:44:27,140 --> 01:44:30,210 >> hi. My name is molly gormley. I am a resident of amarillo. 1047 01:44:32,235 --> 01:44:34,850 I'm in the city limits. I just want to reiterate what the past three people have said 1048 01:44:39,870 --> 01:44:39,870 on bringing alcohol around sports. 1049 01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:46,170 when feel emotions are already high. 1050 01:44:51,465 --> 01:44:51,465 you get hormones raging. 1051 01:44:57,735 --> 01:44:59,355 you put alcohol into that. It is a stupid idea, end of story. 1052 01:45:03,345 --> 01:45:03,345 I don't think it's safe by any means. 1053 01:45:07,785 --> 01:45:07,785 if it's going to be to a confined area, 1054 01:45:12,105 --> 01:45:15,105 as stated, that's the goal. Why can that confined area not already just stay as the restaurant, 1055 01:45:21,660 --> 01:45:24,240 allow that restaurant to succeed, have the sales that they need. 1056 01:45:26,700 --> 01:45:26,700 why does it have to go from I don't understand the rezoning for 1057 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:32,400 a independent tenant to succeed to a whole. 1058 01:45:39,885 --> 01:45:41,445 now, as the landlord, I want a part of this. 1059 01:45:44,570 --> 01:45:46,650 correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how it feels as well, 1060 01:45:48,630 --> 01:45:51,075 I see the restaurant succeeding. I guess I should have really honed in on that. 1061 01:45:54,975 --> 01:45:57,210 now I want my building rezoned. But 15 years ago, it was the ymca. 1062 01:46:03,300 --> 01:46:03,300 what will happen if we rezone this netplex fails because pickleball is a fad. 1063 01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:09,960 did it not use to be basketball courts in the past ten years as well? 1064 01:46:14,625 --> 01:46:17,775 we've seen basketball courts. We've seen volleyball courts, now we're seeing pickleball. 1065 01:46:19,690 --> 01:46:22,685 what is going to happen when this fails? It's rezoned, and it's an even more outlandish idea to mix alcohol with that. 1066 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,100 my biggest thing is how many times, how many businesses have rotated in and out of this specific building, 1067 01:46:41,190 --> 01:46:43,515 and if we rezone this area, how is that going to bring alcohol and introduce alcohol into future tenants? 1068 01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:51,440 we're claiming now that it won't be served during youth events. 1069 01:46:55,875 --> 01:46:59,325 well, youth events in five years could be a lot more popular. It wasn't even a question five years ago. 1070 01:47:02,130 --> 01:47:03,900 it's a question now. What's going to happen when these youth events get huge? 1071 01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:10,365 we have alcohol being served now because it's a money maker. That's what this is. 1072 01:47:12,285 --> 01:47:13,725 this is a moneymaker. San jose is doing great with their restaurant, 1073 01:47:17,025 --> 01:47:20,085 and now it needs to be brought into other areas. How will that work when this building is no longer netplex? 1074 01:47:26,700 --> 01:47:26,700 it's inevitable in 20 years and maybe even five. 1075 01:47:30,750 --> 01:47:34,740 what's that plan? Thank you so much. >> thank you, ma'am. Anyone else that would like 1076 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,095 to offer comment here during the public hearing? Yes, sir. If you come forward, 1077 01:47:41,775 --> 01:47:41,775 if you don't mind giving your name, please, sir. 1078 01:47:46,790 --> 01:47:49,710 >> good afternoon. My name is harry dewitt, and I am a resident of amaro. 1079 01:47:52,820 --> 01:47:55,110 most people don't know me. I am part owner of netplex as well. 1080 01:47:57,420 --> 01:47:59,880 I'm a partner from allen, known allen for a long time. I'm just sitting back. 1081 01:48:04,815 --> 01:48:06,690 I hear his name being smeared around, but I drink a beer in a glass of wine on occasion. 1082 01:48:12,075 --> 01:48:14,535 we do it in a restaurant, to do it at home. I'm not a pickleball player. 1083 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:16,680 we had a alcohol license. 1084 01:48:21,945 --> 01:48:23,670 my name was on the alcohol license. I guess we should have been smarter and put my name back on it. 1085 01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:27,420 like kristen said, we did have the license, 1086 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:33,360 san jose came in they requested it in their restaurant zone. 1087 01:48:38,415 --> 01:48:38,415 I think zone 100 they wanted exclusively the alcohol license, 1088 01:48:43,110 --> 01:48:44,775 which we granted to. I think they're pretty successful, 1089 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:47,160 but we would like to keep them there as well. 1090 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:54,080 in pickleball events or different events in sports. 1091 01:49:00,435 --> 01:49:04,170 look around the country, alcohol is served. This is typically beer. Does it get out of hand that is up to management to keep control. 1092 01:49:10,455 --> 01:49:10,455 we do have officers around when needed. 1093 01:49:16,670 --> 01:49:19,485 of course, I'm for it. Also, moderation is key. 1094 01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:26,460 we tried to run netplex ourselves. We had hired a couple of managers. 1095 01:49:28,620 --> 01:49:28,620 we tried to run the time out restaurant prior to that. 1096 01:49:33,345 --> 01:49:35,340 we were not successful. We're also not restaurant people. 1097 01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:37,440 we'll leave that up to somebody else that's good at it. 1098 01:49:41,570 --> 01:49:44,145 through a couple of iterations, at the end, you get payments to make. 1099 01:49:46,785 --> 01:49:48,105 it's a business. Does adding alcohol sales to certain events? 1100 01:49:53,565 --> 01:49:57,060 does that make you rich? It doesn't. But we still have to make payments. 1101 01:49:59,415 --> 01:50:01,830 it's still a business. That's why you look through an annual budget, 1102 01:50:05,265 --> 01:50:08,745 and you come up on the short end, and we continue to fund it, 1103 01:50:12,210 --> 01:50:15,090 because that's when you run a business, here, don't just let it go. 1104 01:50:17,610 --> 01:50:17,610 alcohol sales is one key that will help us continue. 1105 01:50:23,820 --> 01:50:27,270 we did run into rci, we hired kristen and rci, 1106 01:50:30,495 --> 01:50:32,355 but two years ago, it's been a total change from what we used to do ourselves. 1107 01:50:36,075 --> 01:50:37,920 it is very professional. She is very good at what she's doing. 1108 01:50:40,140 --> 01:50:41,400 she's got a really good team, and hope to get an alcohol permit eventually granted to us, 1109 01:50:47,370 --> 01:50:50,385 and go from there. >> thank you, mr. Dewitt. Do you have anyone else here who'd like to speak? 1110 01:50:54,810 --> 01:50:54,810 mr. Gualtiere in the back, please come forward. 1111 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,645 >> craig lira. I was really struggling of was I really going to come and speak on this particular issue or not. 1112 01:51:12,735 --> 01:51:15,855 I guess really the reason why it just struck me. I spoke at the hearing with planning and zoning. 1113 01:51:19,395 --> 01:51:19,395 the reason why speaking about this really is because it's really hits close to home. 1114 01:51:24,315 --> 01:51:28,020 this was my hood, my mom still is one block straight down to that runs straight into the netplex. 1115 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,700 right there where netplex is where I used to ride my three wheeler. There's probably no one in this room who knows that area more than I do. 1116 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,360 I'll tell you this my point, some of those comments that mr. Brady said with the public were a lot of those were mine. 1117 01:51:50,250 --> 01:51:53,430 it's purely on a safety issue. We used to as teenagers, 1118 01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:58,360 and as young men called that dead man's curve. You could actually go out there and witness it right now. 1119 01:52:01,175 --> 01:52:03,575 people, it's a 45 mile an hour speed limit, and they're going 85 and it's a super highway, 1120 01:52:07,580 --> 01:52:11,200 they're 58th now is. I remember when there was crickets, nothing out there. Now it's a super highway. 1121 01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:13,200 my concern is, as a citizen is not only that 1122 01:52:18,030 --> 01:52:18,030 we do we have to make every alcohol so accessible for everything we do? 1123 01:52:23,655 --> 01:52:27,630 do we not have enough places to go to get alcohol? Do we have to enter this into this area? 1124 01:52:31,815 --> 01:52:34,305 it's a matter of common sense. All of you speak up there about public safety, 1125 01:52:38,235 --> 01:52:40,695 and you back the blue. Well, as if any of you know right now, 1126 01:52:44,490 --> 01:52:47,490 your apd is setting records right now in the state of texas on amount of dwis that they're catching. One after the other. 1127 01:52:51,465 --> 01:52:54,975 they have a four man task force that are out there kicking butt, saving people's lives because people are driving drunk. 1128 01:52:59,415 --> 01:52:59,415 you can get drunk after having two beers or two wines after playing pickle ball. 1129 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:05,880 you can and if my point is it's dark, you're on 58, 1130 01:53:11,295 --> 01:53:14,790 people are hauling ass down 58, and someone impaired or semi impaired pulling out there. 1131 01:53:19,575 --> 01:53:19,575 there's already been serious accidents long there with people who aren't even drunk. 1132 01:53:24,630 --> 01:53:26,940 or even slightly impaired? It's a safety issue with me. 1133 01:53:29,610 --> 01:53:31,380 it just hits close to home. There's a school just not even a mile away. 1134 01:53:34,365 --> 01:53:36,240 there's a daycare right there. I do appreciate the tenants or the leases that are willing to put restrictions on this. 1135 01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:43,830 but it's not just about the restrictions about volleyball games and so forth. 1136 01:53:48,570 --> 01:53:48,570 it's about the safety of we all talk about the safety of our kids. 1137 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,845 how about the safety of all citizens of amaro? If we don't have to do it, then why are we doing it? 1138 01:53:59,175 --> 01:53:59,175 why are we working so hard to make things so easy? 1139 01:54:03,690 --> 01:54:06,195 when if they want a beer, go next door. Thank you. 1140 01:54:09,765 --> 01:54:13,545 >> thank you, sir. Anyone else here today? At this time, we'll close the public hearing. 1141 01:54:16,515 --> 01:54:16,515 counsel, any further discussion on item 7.4? We entertain a motion? 1142 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:29,360 >> I move to adopt ordinance number 8234. 1143 01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:38,025 >> second. >> second. >> have a motion and a second. 1144 01:54:39,570 --> 01:54:39,570 any further discussion? All in favor, please say aye. 1145 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,455 >> aye [overlapping] >> any opposed? Nay. >> nay [overlapping] 1146 01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:48,150 >> motion passes with a 3, 2 vote. 1147 01:54:55,370 --> 01:54:58,410 we're going to recess here for about 10 minutes. We'll come back in here and finish up the next five items on our non consent. Thank you. 1148 01:55:06,980 --> 01:55:06,980 everybody's here. We're making good time, believe it or not. 1149 01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,085 make sure we're at 7, 6. Item, 7.5. 1150 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:25,395 mr. City manager, is this one you? >> yes mayor, I can cover this about a week or so ago, 1151 01:55:28,695 --> 01:55:28,695 the ports to plains approached the mayor and myself, requesting some support. 1152 01:55:32,775 --> 01:55:34,290 as you are aware, the ports to plains is leading the effort of trying trying to improve interstate traffic, 1153 01:55:41,715 --> 01:55:45,420 which happens to go through amro. They're looking at obviously a bigger area than just us. But we are in the path of that trying to expand I-27 basically from the gulf to canada. 1154 01:55:50,115 --> 01:55:53,925 with this, you have a resolution before you today today. They're requesting our support to request of the federal government to add 1155 01:55:59,745 --> 01:56:03,330 a future interstate highway formula funding program to the next federal surface transportation authorization bill. 1156 01:56:07,875 --> 01:56:07,875 as the us government has slowed down on interstate development. 1157 01:56:13,665 --> 01:56:13,665 they would like to ask our support to encourage them to put more funding into 1158 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:18,600 that section of the bill to push for more interstate development in our country. 1159 01:56:23,805 --> 01:56:23,805 with this, the goal would be to see pors to plains I-27 growth through amarillo. 1160 01:56:30,900 --> 01:56:33,210 there's no strings attached to us. This is just our support behind the bigger effort. 1161 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,950 >> counsel, y'all have any questions on that, and then should we speak to that in hearing it quickly for the public to understand. 1162 01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:48,015 we're not raising anything. We're not funding anything. 1163 01:56:49,395 --> 01:56:52,380 >> correct. >> just a letter of support for the [overlapping] >> federal government to put funding toward this effort. 1164 01:56:55,260 --> 01:56:57,270 >> think about your text dot dollars, and we want texas dot to continue to get those projects shovel ready. 1165 01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:01,350 that requires years of planning in advance and a lot of coordination. 1166 01:57:05,610 --> 01:57:09,360 those dollars do go out into the larger system, and we are wanting to attract as many of those here as possible 1167 01:57:12,810 --> 01:57:16,740 to improve traffic growth and infrastructure. >> yes. You'll see that there's a lot of 1168 01:57:19,710 --> 01:57:19,710 interstate east of the mississippi and not a whole lot in the midwest. 1169 01:57:24,195 --> 01:57:26,760 you go west mississippi so they're trying to encourage more of that activity as we're developing in our part of the country. 1170 01:57:29,895 --> 01:57:31,425 >> real good, councilman? >> I move to adopt resolution number 1-20 7-20 6-1. 1171 01:57:36,450 --> 01:57:39,960 >> second. >> motion in a second on item 7.5. All in favor, please say aye. 1172 01:57:41,490 --> 01:57:44,805 >> aye [overlapping] >> any opposed. Motion passes. Item 7.6 is that mr. Brassfield. 1173 01:57:51,470 --> 01:57:53,505 >> good afternoon, council. Drew brassfield, assistant director of planning. 1174 01:57:55,740 --> 01:57:55,740 this item is a first reading to consider resolution of support for mirror street loft, 1175 01:58:01,545 --> 01:58:05,070 lp's application to the texas department of housing and community affairs for 2026 competitive 9% housing tax credits. 1176 01:58:08,970 --> 01:58:08,970 so just a quick recap on the housing tax credit program. 1177 01:58:13,170 --> 01:58:16,080 it's administered by the texas department of housing and community affairs. It directs private capital toward the development and 1178 01:58:18,450 --> 01:58:22,290 preservation of affordable rental housing for low income households. Tax credits are awarded to eligible participants to offset a portion of 1179 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:26,880 federal tax liability and there's two types of it: competitive and noncompetitive. 1180 01:58:32,205 --> 01:58:35,805 the program was designed to provide a source of equity financing, maximize the number of affordable units in the state's housing supply, 1181 01:58:39,165 --> 01:58:42,255 and it ensures that that supply is well maintained and operated. It also prevents losses to the state supply of affordable housing, 1182 01:58:46,035 --> 01:58:48,195 and by receiving a resolution, applicants are able to score more points with their application. 1183 01:58:52,305 --> 01:58:52,305 so the mirror street loft's project is located in the vicinity of north mirror 1184 01:58:57,210 --> 01:58:57,210 and dale street near the martin road park and the ball fields that are up there. 1185 01:59:01,845 --> 01:59:01,845 the investment is going to be around 21 million for no less than 85 workforce units. 1186 01:59:07,845 --> 01:59:10,950 rent will range somewhere around 1,000-1,300. The majority of these will be at 60% area median income. 1187 01:59:15,795 --> 01:59:17,940 the complex would include a fitness center, community kitchen, and an activity room. 1188 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,020 project is proposed to stay on the tax rolls and the applicant is seeking the 9% competitive tax credits. 1189 01:59:29,205 --> 01:59:33,045 so the request is simply for a resolution of support. The only city financials that 1190 01:59:36,990 --> 01:59:40,920 are tied to this is a request for $500 waiver of development fees. Again, the project would remain on the tax rolls and if awarded, 1191 01:59:44,010 --> 01:59:47,385 the tax credits and funds would be coming through the state. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on the program, 1192 01:59:50,580 --> 01:59:53,520 and if there's a project specific question, we have mr. Beard here from the development group. 1193 01:59:55,275 --> 01:59:59,175 >> the only reason I bring it back up is just because it is good to hear it again. So once again, competitive 9% housing tax credit comes from a federal housing tax credit. 1194 02:00:05,925 --> 02:00:06,480 >> correct. >> does not come from any incentives, local, 1195 02:00:10,005 --> 02:00:12,540 no sales tax, property tax, anything like that, staying on the tax rolls. 1196 02:00:15,135 --> 02:00:17,325 >> that is correct. >> really good. Thank you, sir. >> a move to adopt resolution 01-27-26-2 as presented. 1197 02:00:25,515 --> 02:00:28,095 >> second. >> motion and a second. All in favor, please say aye. 1198 02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:33,090 >> aye. >> any oppose? Motion passes. Item 7.7, mr. Kashuba. 1199 02:00:40,070 --> 02:00:43,605 >> mayor and council, michael kashuba, director parks and rec. The item before you today is the first reading and 1200 02:00:45,990 --> 02:00:49,860 consideration of a resolution authorizing participation in the 2026 national fitness campaign and authorizing acceptance of 1201 02:00:55,020 --> 02:00:55,020 the blue cross blue shield grant for 60,000 and a city match of 175,000. 1202 02:01:01,470 --> 02:01:03,555 we do have a little video just to show you, and then just a quick couple of slides just to walk through it. 1203 02:01:07,260 --> 02:01:10,605 but this video should explain what the national fitness campaign is, it's something that's done, obviously, nationwide. 1204 02:01:13,425 --> 02:01:17,160 there is a process to be awarded a grant, we went through that process, 1205 02:01:18,615 --> 02:01:18,615 and we were selected as one of the communities in texas to get that $60,000 grant. 1206 02:01:23,490 --> 02:01:23,490 so with that I'll let, stephanie, show it. 1207 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,750 >> [music] we're changing the way america thinks about fitness. From municipal parks and trails, 1208 02:01:38,730 --> 02:01:41,625 to college campuses to high schools nationwide, we're bringing free fitness everywhere, 1209 02:01:43,530 --> 02:01:46,875 and we're just getting started. Hi, I'm mitch menaged, founder of the national fitness campaign. 1210 02:01:49,185 --> 02:01:52,575 national fitness campaign was founded in 1979, when we opened the first fitness court. 1211 02:01:54,630 --> 02:01:56,985 redesigned for the 21st century, the fitness court is the world's best outdoor gym. 1212 02:01:59,565 --> 02:02:00,870 our seven movement, seven minutes system allows you to use your own body weight to get the perfect workout. 1213 02:02:05,460 --> 02:02:07,830 easy or hard, it will work for you. Our goal is to build healthy communities by making outdoor fitness 1214 02:02:11,925 --> 02:02:11,925 an essential part of people's lives so that each day is better than the last. 1215 02:02:16,380 --> 02:02:18,300 now, more than ever before, it is vital that we move fitness outdoors to remain safe, healthy, and strong. 1216 02:02:24,405 --> 02:02:28,050 >> michiganders, as soon as we can, we go outside. Which is one of the reasons why the fitness court was such an attraction. 1217 02:02:31,260 --> 02:02:31,260 what impressed us most was their basic philosophy 1218 02:02:35,325 --> 02:02:35,325 that they want to provide world class fitness for free. 1219 02:02:40,095 --> 02:02:43,650 truly, anyone can use it no matter what your age is, no matter what your physical fitness level is, 1220 02:02:46,140 --> 02:02:48,060 no matter what your skills are, it is very adaptable. 1221 02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:50,160 >> this fitness court is one of the best things that san jacinto has ever done. 1222 02:02:55,260 --> 02:02:55,260 >> thousands of certified ambassadors will be trained to deliver classes, 1223 02:02:59,580 --> 02:03:03,405 challenges, and clinics as part of our national fitness campaign. New programs are bringing students outdoors across america. 1224 02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:09,945 the fitness court mobile app is your gateway. To enroll in these programs, 1225 02:03:11,635 --> 02:03:11,635 simply scan the new digital wall with your phone to access a library of free workouts, 1226 02:03:17,090 --> 02:03:21,030 designed to optimize your experience on the fitness court. Learn the moves and take challenges as we dig 1227 02:03:23,595 --> 02:03:27,435 deep to create impact for our partners across america. This year, we are thrilled to introduce the fitness court studio, 1228 02:03:31,365 --> 02:03:33,720 the ultimate community wellness hope, uniting the power of yoga, 1229 02:03:35,655 --> 02:03:38,265 zumba, body weight fitness, and the arts. Fitness court public art continues to grow and inspire 1230 02:03:41,580 --> 02:03:45,195 across the country as local artists collaborate to bring beautiful, one of a kind murals to life on fitness courts and fitness court studios. 1231 02:03:49,770 --> 02:03:53,205 we're proud to have helped cities of all sizes raise millions of dollars from respected sponsors to support free fitness. 1232 02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:01,545 wherever fitness is a priority, you can find a fitness court. We're partnering with large cities, 1233 02:04:03,855 --> 02:04:03,855 using urban movement data to map the best locations for healthy infrastructure. 1234 02:04:09,045 --> 02:04:09,045 we're bringing fitness courts to within 10 minutes of population centers everywhere. 1235 02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:14,100 >> they provide these wraparound services that from a city's perspective, 1236 02:04:18,780 --> 02:04:20,835 that's what you want in a partner like this. You want it to come presented to you on a silver platter with a bow tied around. 1237 02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,015 they're one of the best partners, I think that I personally have ever worked with. 1238 02:04:29,460 --> 02:04:32,700 >> we serve almost 1.2 million members across michigan and this partnership really is an opportunity for us to bring scalable, 1239 02:04:38,685 --> 02:04:42,045 free health and wellness opportunities for our community. So I would actually invite cities and organizations big and 1240 02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,195 small to explore the opportunity to invest in fitness courts. To be very honest with you, the feedback from 1241 02:04:50,010 --> 02:04:53,670 different municipalities and different communities has been very positive. >> we are committed to raise over $1 billion to 1242 02:04:57,570 --> 02:05:00,960 bring the campaign to 5,000 cities and schools, building the largest outdoor fitness movement in the world. 1243 02:05:04,815 --> 02:05:08,790 join us, let's make world class fitness free. [applause] 1244 02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:17,940 >> so one of the things that we've been working with the national fitness campaign on, 1245 02:05:22,860 --> 02:05:24,675 and I'll show you here in just a second, is how we analyzed and determined what location was most suitable. 1246 02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:33,000 [noise] they actually did a site feasibility for us and so these are some of the things that they look at: the typology, 1247 02:05:37,530 --> 02:05:41,100 the amenities, trail access. One of the things they don't want to do is put this in a park that has low access, low activity. 1248 02:05:43,695 --> 02:05:43,695 they really want to put it in a place that already has a lot of activity happening. 1249 02:05:47,805 --> 02:05:51,390 so when they do that, they look at the equity map, population density, walkability, pedestrian activity, cyclist activity, 1250 02:05:55,350 --> 02:05:57,465 and park open space. This is the top three parks based off of their evaluation criteria. 1251 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,340 so john ward park ranked the highest at 88%, and you can see the reasoning behind. 1252 02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:09,135 your regional trail, you obviously have 9th street trails right there. 1253 02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:12,780 it's a highly active park. This is probably the most utilized park for walking. 1254 02:06:15,765 --> 02:06:18,360 being in the hospital district, we see a lot of walkers, we see a lot of use in the park, 1255 02:06:20,670 --> 02:06:23,430 and then they also evaluate based off that scenic water. So they think that's a nice amenity for people to work out around. 1256 02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:29,205 you can see john stiff, sam houston. Then here are some other parks that they had also evaluated and scored but obviously, 1257 02:06:34,110 --> 02:06:37,080 the recommendation would be looking at john ward park. There is a location where there's currently an old tennis court that's under utilized, 1258 02:06:41,355 --> 02:06:44,670 and that's the location we would be proposing. Again, this is a breakdown. 1259 02:06:47,670 --> 02:06:49,440 we had presented this to the park board. There's two different options; there's the fitness court and their fitness court studio. 1260 02:06:53,025 --> 02:06:53,025 the real difference is one has more of a space that you could do programmable classes, 1261 02:06:57,620 --> 02:07:00,890 so yoga, [noise] other activities in the park. The park board recommended it unanimously, 1262 02:07:03,710 --> 02:07:06,145 and that was in the november meeting. So today, this is just the first reading of the resolution. 1263 02:07:10,365 --> 02:07:12,990 we would bring back probably at the next meeting, obviously, if council approves the second reading, 1264 02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:17,955 but then also the agreement to move forward with funding. So be happy to answer any questions. 1265 02:07:20,370 --> 02:07:20,370 >> questions, gentlemen. 1266 02:07:24,380 --> 02:07:24,380 >> now, what's the expected cost on it? 1267 02:07:30,090 --> 02:07:33,120 >> so we're looking at about 235,000. There's a little bit more that would come back for installation. 1268 02:07:35,340 --> 02:07:38,180 installation is done by one of their network installers. It wouldn't be a part of the initial piece, it's about 37,000. 1269 02:07:41,345 --> 02:07:44,980 so you're about 270 plus or minus all in. >> okay. Life expectancy? 1270 02:07:47,295 --> 02:07:49,590 >> they've got some from the 1970s. >> still sitting out there looking good? 1271 02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:55,050 you don't have a lot of maintenance as well. >> well, no, that's from the national fitness campaign, they still have that are out there. 1272 02:07:56,550 --> 02:08:00,170 we have some standalone systems at elwood and john stiff park where people can actually walk 1273 02:08:02,180 --> 02:08:04,730 around the park and use those separate circuits. I think this is better because obviously, 1274 02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:06,800 it concentrates that activity and allows you to do more group fitness, things like that. 1275 02:08:11,660 --> 02:08:15,470 >> did you say you already identified funding within your budget, is that correct? >> correct. We've got it put into a project, 1276 02:08:17,285 --> 02:08:19,625 and we're ready to fund it. >> okay. >> is that for all three sites? 1277 02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:24,935 >> no. We would just be doing the first one, which is john ward. >> okay. 1278 02:08:27,740 --> 02:08:31,310 >> okay. Thank you, mr. Kashuba. Item is before you, gentlemen. 1279 02:08:33,450 --> 02:08:33,450 >> a move to adopt resolution number 01-27-26-3 as presented. 1280 02:08:40,020 --> 02:08:42,425 >> second. [overlapping] >> motion and a second. All in favor, please say, aye. 1281 02:08:44,090 --> 02:08:47,390 >> aye. >> any oppose? Motion passes. Item 7.8, miss coggins. 1282 02:09:02,210 --> 02:09:04,725 >> thank you, mayor and council. We were notified by the potter-randall appraisal district that 1283 02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:08,550 darryl furman has resigned from the randall county appraisal board. 1284 02:09:13,215 --> 02:09:17,160 so we are bringing a resolution today to see if you would like to nominate an individual to be considered to replace mr. Furman. 1285 02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:22,400 so he has a position that will end december 31st, 1286 02:09:26,565 --> 02:09:26,565 2027, so they will appoint a member to replace that remaining term. 1287 02:09:31,305 --> 02:09:34,215 each taxing unit that was entitled to vote in the ballot that we cast in december of last year, 1288 02:09:38,205 --> 02:09:40,980 is entitled to nominate by resolution, a candidate to fill that vacancy. 1289 02:09:43,425 --> 02:09:46,860 vacancies are a little different under state law in the changes that have come about so if we nominate someone, 1290 02:09:50,580 --> 02:09:53,745 that person will be forwarded to the board of directors, along with any other nominations from any other taxing agencies, 1291 02:09:57,765 --> 02:10:00,720 and the board of directors, the randall county appraisal board, will elect by a majority vote of its members, 1292 02:10:03,870 --> 02:10:07,110 someone from that list to replace mr. Furman. So on your screen now is the list 1293 02:10:10,635 --> 02:10:14,220 of the members of the board of directors and you'll see in yellow there, the two vacant boxes are the remainder of mr. Furman's term. 1294 02:10:19,530 --> 02:10:19,530 I was asked by a couple of elected officials to provide the results and the list of 1295 02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:25,440 individuals from when we went through the election in december and so just as a reminder, 1296 02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:32,595 there were four individuals; haley holt and jinger white were appointed to 1297 02:10:36,330 --> 02:10:36,330 the board as a result of that election in december and so they are currently serving. 1298 02:10:40,935 --> 02:10:40,935 the other two members that were on that ballot were jack klaus and tom sherlen. 1299 02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:49,545 the other two candidates, excuse me. With that, if there are any questions, 1300 02:10:51,705 --> 02:10:54,830 I can answer for you. >> questions, gentlemen. So just a nomination from this body, 1301 02:11:00,990 --> 02:11:02,565 and then you have the other, how many bodies are there that will [background] make the decision? Another four more? 1302 02:11:08,190 --> 02:11:11,205 >> it looks like up to about 10. >> ten, more? >> they're all listed on that screen right there. 1303 02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:14,390 >> I would move to nominate jack klaus to replace the vacancy. 1304 02:11:20,750 --> 02:11:23,085 >> I'll second. >> I have a motion and a second, any discussion? 1305 02:11:26,475 --> 02:11:30,390 all in favor for the nomination, please say, aye. >> aye. >> aye. 1306 02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:34,230 >> any oppose? Motion passes. >> okay. Thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. Okay. Item 7.9, 1307 02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:40,800 potential change order on our automated metering. Mr. Hartman. 1308 02:11:46,095 --> 02:11:48,585 >> thank you, mayor and council. Appreciate the opportunity to present this item. 1309 02:11:51,525 --> 02:11:51,525 so what's before you is a potential change order for consideration, 1310 02:11:56,100 --> 02:11:59,715 change order 4 to the ami, automatic metering infrastructure project. 1311 02:12:02,115 --> 02:12:04,920 so a little background, if you'll recall, that project is texas water development board funded with a $28.5 million loan. 1312 02:12:10,335 --> 02:12:13,800 the existing contract total, that's committed between sl-serco and thirkettle, 1313 02:12:17,220 --> 02:12:17,220 is $25,657,758.44, that 1314 02:12:22,740 --> 02:12:22,740 leaves approximately a little over $2.8 million available on the twdb loan to fund. 1315 02:12:29,145 --> 02:12:31,650 if you'll look at what you have here, the change order 4 being proposed is 1.9 million, a little bit over that, 1316 02:12:35,820 --> 02:12:38,460 so there's funding available under the existing original project estimate to fund this change order. 1317 02:12:44,100 --> 02:12:47,130 what does this change order propose to do? There's two primary components, 1318 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:51,930 the two big items of it, approximately 450 large meter pits have substantial paving and concrete around them. 1319 02:12:58,965 --> 02:13:01,170 early on, in 2022, when we defined the scope, that was minimized. 1320 02:13:05,450 --> 02:13:08,700 >> that needs to be added just to have the paving around those to be back to the appropriate level. 1321 02:13:14,420 --> 02:13:17,745 this was not designed by an engineer. We have an engineer of record that helps us through sl-serco, 1322 02:13:21,945 --> 02:13:24,840 but there's not a set of design plans on this. This was identified as they went through the meter process. 1323 02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:32,595 where they're at today? There's 7,411 meters of 79,639 left, 1324 02:13:38,715 --> 02:13:38,715 so it's 91% complete. 1325 02:13:42,950 --> 02:13:42,950 through that process of putting in over 90% of the meters, 1326 02:13:47,625 --> 02:13:51,090 we've identified this need to enhance this and move forward with those costs to have that paving done. 1327 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:54,960 the second most costly thing of this is changing 960 of the 1 " meters to brass meter. 1328 02:14:02,820 --> 02:14:04,905 over the last two years, there were concerns brought by citizens about 1329 02:14:08,430 --> 02:14:08,430 the composite meters, specifically about freezing. 1330 02:14:14,355 --> 02:14:16,455 we haven't seen that manifest, but we have moved forward such that we have both types in this, 1331 02:14:20,100 --> 02:14:23,160 and that's the second most costly part of the change order. It also comes with the contractors responsibilities 1332 02:14:26,355 --> 02:14:26,355 for the extension through may of this year. 1333 02:14:33,630 --> 02:14:37,500 through change orders 1,2 and 3, we had extended the time to december, 1334 02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:43,140 so we need that time moved to may. The contract in change order 1 was primarily with 1335 02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:47,280 requirements for the texas water development board loan, 1336 02:14:51,945 --> 02:14:51,945 and the contractor, including davis bacon and other requirements like that. 1337 02:14:55,950 --> 02:14:59,805 change order 2 and 3 were related to expanded scope of meters and other costs related to expansion of the scope. 1338 02:15:05,730 --> 02:15:05,730 what we would wind up with would be commitment, 1339 02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:09,900 leaving just at $900,000 of the original loan not committed. 1340 02:15:15,210 --> 02:15:18,210 now, remember, this is twd loan funded, so our engineer record sends it to the texas water development board review engineer. 1341 02:15:25,785 --> 02:15:25,785 it's been through that process such that it has been 1342 02:15:29,940 --> 02:15:29,940 deemed to qualify for funding and meet the original scope of the project. 1343 02:15:34,725 --> 02:15:34,725 once you approve, if you find it acceptable to approve this change order, 1344 02:15:39,585 --> 02:15:39,585 then that will go back to the twd engineer to submit 1345 02:15:43,710 --> 02:15:43,710 for final processing such that the funding is made available to the city. 1346 02:15:48,660 --> 02:15:52,550 I'd be happy to answer any questions. >> any questions for mr. Hartman? 1347 02:15:57,110 --> 02:15:59,655 >> is this your last presentation? >> yes, sir. Out of 32 years, this is the end. 1348 02:16:04,530 --> 02:16:07,020 >> do we need to ask a lot of questions and drag this on?? [laughter] >> sure. 1349 02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:13,440 you have what the two minute, the two hour or the two months? 1350 02:16:15,090 --> 02:16:18,075 >> yeah. There's a four minute, a four day and a four month version of every answer that I have. 1351 02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:26,400 >> we are aware. [laughter] >> I think what mr. Tipps is saying is, could you please tell us about 1352 02:16:28,230 --> 02:16:28,230 water saturated thickness [laughter] and our well field surfaces there. 1353 02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:34,575 >> it started back. >> take us back to like in the '80s, where you really got [inaudible]. 1354 02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:39,690 >> well, I was going to go back to the formation of the rocky mountains. [laughter] 1355 02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:44,415 >> dave, henry, do you have control over his mic? We might be here all night. >> I'm not sure that we can turn that one off. 1356 02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:47,280 >> well, the change order seems large. 1357 02:16:52,035 --> 02:16:52,035 mr. Hartman, is there a lot of paving at multiple locations? 1358 02:16:56,115 --> 02:16:56,115 >> yes. You can imagine a meter vaults for the larger meters, 1359 02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:02,595 especially being in, what you would consider, a manhole. 1360 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:07,620 when they're in paving, that's going to take significant excavation to take all of that out and put that in. 1361 02:17:12,855 --> 02:17:15,330 those quantity adjustments of meters in change order number 2 typically included these larger meters. 1362 02:17:20,550 --> 02:17:20,550 we had originally thought that we would be able to get city staff to do some of this. 1363 02:17:25,755 --> 02:17:25,755 but it just has never manifested such that that's occurred. 1364 02:17:32,385 --> 02:17:32,385 also, you are limited in what 1365 02:17:36,860 --> 02:17:36,860 qualifies for the funding to what the original loan requirements were. 1366 02:17:42,170 --> 02:17:42,170 this was a clean water revolving fund loan, 1367 02:17:46,890 --> 02:17:50,070 so it's in wastewater. We were able to get that, remember, at 0% interest. 1368 02:17:53,055 --> 02:17:55,695 it would have to be a qualifying event. Even if you don't award this, 1369 02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:58,785 and we took another approach, it would take longer and probably would 1370 02:18:02,280 --> 02:18:02,280 require actually adding a crew in the next budget to do it and complete it. 1371 02:18:07,140 --> 02:18:07,140 but this way you get your ability for all your customers, save a few. 1372 02:18:12,435 --> 02:18:12,435 this does not include meters out in the well field and outside the city that are remote. 1373 02:18:18,570 --> 02:18:21,600 those are still going to be dealt with the city crew plan. Does that answer your question? 1374 02:18:22,935 --> 02:18:25,670 >> yes, sir. >> gentlemen, any further questions, considerations before you. 1375 02:18:32,010 --> 02:18:35,610 >> I move that we consider the change order number 4 to automated metering infrastructure implementation. 1376 02:18:39,135 --> 02:18:40,500 >> second. >> I have moved to approve and a second about playa 4. 1377 02:18:44,325 --> 02:18:46,800 all in favor, please say, aye. >> aye. >> any opposed? Motion passes. 1378 02:18:49,155 --> 02:18:51,270 >> mayor, real quick, if I may, unfortunately, like last time, we have lost the video at this meeting here. 1379 02:18:54,510 --> 02:18:57,210 we have audio, people can see the screens, but they can't see individual people talking. 1380 02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:03,465 we can proceed as that if you'd like. We have a pretty heavy slide presentation is the next one here, or if you'd like to, 1381 02:19:07,710 --> 02:19:10,905 we could pause, reset the system again, and then see that works. 1382 02:19:14,030 --> 02:19:17,295 >> we are down to our last item. We have a contractor here. 1383 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:22,065 it's a construction manager at risk item. This will require one reading or multiple readings. Just the one? 1384 02:19:26,940 --> 02:19:30,300 >> just the one, yes. Right now, the staff are recommending that we keep rolling just in case. 1385 02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:37,010 if we shut it down, we may lose more. >> we'll move forward with the audio and then as 1386 02:19:41,070 --> 02:19:44,925 much on the detailed slides as you can give us back there, kristen, would be great. Thank you. I got the thumbs up. 1387 02:19:47,550 --> 02:19:50,355 who is bringing this item forward? >> I can introduce it first, 1388 02:19:51,930 --> 02:19:54,000 and then it will be jerry after that. I think it's very fitting too that the cameras quit 1389 02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:58,620 working during floyd's last presentation, [laughter] and I think that was probably part of it. 1390 02:20:01,035 --> 02:20:04,460 you broke the cameras, floyd. Before jerry speaks, I want to brag a little bit. 1391 02:20:07,935 --> 02:20:10,200 first of all, on council and then what we've been able to do over the past couple of years. 1392 02:20:12,210 --> 02:20:13,890 this project, right here, these two projects relate back to the 2023 40 plus million dollar 1393 02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:21,555 that council gave us to work on drainage projects that were of significant issue across the community. 1394 02:20:25,530 --> 02:20:26,970 the past couple of years, we spent a lot of time planning for and getting 1395 02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:33,180 ready for this moment here for two of the largest projects, I think that will make the most significant impact to amarillo's drainage issues, 1396 02:20:37,080 --> 02:20:39,780 and that is the lawrence lake project and the playa 7 [laughter] project. So jerry and his team have been working really hard on this. 1397 02:20:42,360 --> 02:20:45,840 I want to take that moment just to say thank you to council for one for supporting these projects because they are truly going to make a difference. 1398 02:20:49,410 --> 02:20:51,135 with that, I'll turn it over to mr. Danforth, director of capital projects and development engineering. 1399 02:20:54,380 --> 02:20:54,380 >> mayor, council, I agree with mr. Hooper. 1400 02:20:58,455 --> 02:21:00,870 this is a big project, and it is going to make a huge impact in our community going forward. 1401 02:21:06,150 --> 02:21:08,820 we currently have engineering contracts in place with two different firms, freese and nichols, 1402 02:21:11,550 --> 02:21:14,580 and halff engineering, one on playa 6 and one on playa 7. 1403 02:21:18,135 --> 02:21:20,910 as we go through this, I'll give you some highlights, but you will see the impact to the community as we go through it. 1404 02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:29,250 we're actually addressing the two playas as representative, playa 6 and playa 7. 1405 02:21:30,900 --> 02:21:33,510 playa 6 being lawrence lake. Everybody remembers the impacts that we had that you guys took 1406 02:21:37,485 --> 02:21:37,485 appropriate action to move forward on quickly. What we have. 1407 02:21:43,065 --> 02:21:46,305 as a construction manager at risk, we utilize this platform basically to control pricing, 1408 02:21:50,955 --> 02:21:52,755 to get value engineering, and to move the project forward in a quicker manner. 1409 02:21:56,130 --> 02:21:59,955 using a cmar in this scenario allows us to also accelerate different scopes of the project. 1410 02:22:04,050 --> 02:22:04,050 we'll go through the scopes and take a look at it. 1411 02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:10,920 we did the rfp process. We received multiple bidders through the rfp, 1412 02:22:14,325 --> 02:22:17,295 reviewed and opened those on december 3rd. Two were received that were qualified. 1413 02:22:20,010 --> 02:22:20,010 the recommendation before you today is to award it to western builders of amarillo. 1414 02:22:25,110 --> 02:22:28,655 the benefits of using a cmar are obviously early contractor involvement to assist with the design and cost estimating to 1415 02:22:34,400 --> 02:22:38,040 establish a gmp so that we can come back to you with that contract for approval for 1416 02:22:40,290 --> 02:22:44,280 the guaranteed maximum price on these two projects combined, allows us to do early release on bid packages, 1417 02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:50,775 and as we go through the design, you'll see where we can talk about potential fast tracking to take place through the construction project. 1418 02:22:56,390 --> 02:22:59,070 design engineering, as I stated, was with freese and nichols. 1419 02:23:00,405 --> 02:23:03,810 their scope was 8,500 linear feet of 30' force main from the new pump station to bell street. 1420 02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:08,700 new 15 million gallon daily pump stations to be enclosed in a metal building, 1421 02:23:16,725 --> 02:23:20,325 wet well, intakes, and self cleaning screens. Electrical equipment, instrumentation, and 1422 02:23:23,640 --> 02:23:23,640 reporting capacity tied into the existing network that drainage currently has. 1423 02:23:30,140 --> 02:23:30,140 this comes back to the shovel ready stuff that we'd referenced in the past. 1424 02:23:35,370 --> 02:23:39,330 we're doing the pumping of lawrence at this point in time, but we are also moving ahead with the designs for the western plaza drive, 1425 02:23:45,485 --> 02:23:48,605 bank stabilization, outfall repairs, and even there at western and olson. 1426 02:23:51,790 --> 02:23:51,790 what you're looking at here is what the pump station layout will look like there at 1427 02:23:57,000 --> 02:23:57,000 the property that you approved us to purchase two months ago. 1428 02:24:01,845 --> 02:24:01,845 this basically sits right there on the frontage of i40. 1429 02:24:06,900 --> 02:24:09,270 as you can see, represented in here, three large pumps to pump that lake moving forward. 1430 02:24:15,075 --> 02:24:15,075 we also took into account in working with our engineers. 1431 02:24:19,290 --> 02:24:22,170 you see the new 30" inch force main to parallel the existing 15" main that is currently there. 1432 02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:27,540 we are not abandoning that, nor are we abandoning the turbine pump that is currently there. 1433 02:24:31,380 --> 02:24:31,380 however, that is not included in the calculations that I represented earlier. 1434 02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:39,255 that's the representations from the new pump station. We have existing capacity in there still to pump through that 15 going forward. 1435 02:24:46,370 --> 02:24:49,470 reconstruct and stabilize the bank. We've noticed, as you can see, 1436 02:24:50,985 --> 02:24:52,455 highlighted there in blue, some problems with that bank stabilization there along that road. 1437 02:24:55,755 --> 02:24:55,755 we're getting that design done with freese and nichols currently, 1438 02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:00,120 the design to repair the nine stormwater outfalls, 1439 02:25:04,515 --> 02:25:04,515 to mitigate the erosion that we're seeing around the lake in those outfall areas. 1440 02:25:10,665 --> 02:25:12,510 as we go through this, the value of the cmar for us and for the city of amarillo is, 1441 02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:20,520 for us to get that gmp. If we can realize enough savings, this allows us to come in and pick off 1442 02:25:22,830 --> 02:25:22,830 those additional projects that will already be shovel ready and ready to go to work. 1443 02:25:28,170 --> 02:25:28,170 what we have is the preliminary outline on the timelines and we look to escalate this. 1444 02:25:33,150 --> 02:25:34,470 this is a conservative view, but you can see where we're at.this meets 1445 02:25:37,470 --> 02:25:40,470 the profile and the requirements of the bond for us to have the bond completely funded and utilized before 1446 02:25:43,410 --> 02:25:43,410 the end of the time frames before it has a chance to affect us. 1447 02:25:48,500 --> 02:25:50,910 where we are currently? The survey and subservice utility engineering is complete with freese and nichols. 1448 02:25:57,330 --> 02:25:59,715 the geotech bores are complete. Preliminary design is complete. 1449 02:26:02,475 --> 02:26:02,475 the 60% completion of the force main design. We're at 90%. 1450 02:26:09,030 --> 02:26:11,940 force main design is in progress currently. This is where the cmar coming in and doing 1451 02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:14,160 the value engineering brings additional value to us in the city. 1452 02:26:18,360 --> 02:26:20,310 sixty percent of the pump station, bank stabilization and designs are in progress. 1453 02:26:23,175 --> 02:26:25,350 as you can see, once we get those complete, we anticipate in having those complete 1454 02:26:28,155 --> 02:26:28,155 concurrently while we're doing construction and bringing before you the gmp. 1455 02:26:34,410 --> 02:26:34,410 playa 7, what we're looking at with halff engineering 1456 02:26:39,270 --> 02:26:39,270 on that is 14,000 linear foot of 20 inch force main. 1457 02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:46,950 new pump station, including intake piping, wet well, all of the same stuff that we have on lawrence. 1458 02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:52,950 with the cmar, this allows us to coordinate with two different engineering firms to get 1459 02:26:56,820 --> 02:26:56,820 a uniform design that we can see through value engineering, 1460 02:27:01,410 --> 02:27:05,295 taking a look to see if we're buying a larger volume, maybe we get better pricing, and we will take that approach going forward. 1461 02:27:07,515 --> 02:27:09,240 >> mayor, if I may, real quick. Brian's had a chance to look at some more information on the legal side. 1462 02:27:12,765 --> 02:27:16,095 we may need to pause this conversation to reset the system. We need to try to fix it real quick. 1463 02:27:18,015 --> 02:27:20,610 as he was doing some quick looking real quick, and it's a matter of ands and ors in the language 1464 02:27:25,110 --> 02:27:27,150 there and so I think we need to try to fix this and we think we need to restart the presentation. 1465 02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:31,740 we can get this fixed. I apologize. But I recommend that we pause this and see if we can't fix the issue real quick. 1466 02:27:36,120 --> 02:27:40,110 >> okay. Council, we're going to take a 10 minute recess. Come back in 10 minutes. We'll see if we got it fixed. Thank you. 1467 02:28:20,060 --> 02:28:20,060 >> [background] 1468 02:33:31,610 --> 02:33:33,725 >> ladies and gentlemen, we are back live. If I can get everybody called back into session here. 1469 02:33:37,220 --> 02:33:37,220 we're going to jump back in with a brief review from mr. Danforth, 1470 02:33:42,590 --> 02:33:42,590 get us caught back up to where we were. 1471 02:33:48,500 --> 02:33:51,705 >> okay. Mr. Hooper. >> go ahead unless you want me to replay what I said earlier. 1472 02:33:54,555 --> 02:33:54,555 I would, but I would have to deal with floyd breaking the camera, 1473 02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:01,680 and we don't want to repeat that. Go ahead, jerry. >> well, as we stated before, 1474 02:34:04,110 --> 02:34:07,995 and I think it's still important that everybody hears this, major success from the council pushing this forward, 1475 02:34:10,995 --> 02:34:13,485 two critical projects going forward. Playa 7 and playa 6. 1476 02:34:15,525 --> 02:34:19,470 cmar contract approval is what we're looking at today. But to give you an update on where we're at in the process and 1477 02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:22,800 understand the impact that you're fixing to make on the city itself. 1478 02:34:27,480 --> 02:34:30,390 the locations we're looking at, playa 6, which is lawrence lake, 1479 02:34:31,605 --> 02:34:35,180 and playa 7 south on soncy. We released the rfp on november 4th, 1480 02:34:38,880 --> 02:34:42,240 open bids for the rfp on december 3rd. There were two received bids. 1481 02:34:44,340 --> 02:34:48,330 the recommended award was to western builders of amarillo. It's important to understand the benefits of using 1482 02:34:51,660 --> 02:34:55,005 a construction manager at risk in this scenario, because we are working with two engineering firms on two different construction projects, 1483 02:34:59,610 --> 02:34:59,610 having one contractor to work with us to do value engineering on both projects, 1484 02:35:05,085 --> 02:35:08,640 and also to control the designs going forward that would be beneficial to both projects as well. 1485 02:35:14,385 --> 02:35:14,385 this allows us to do early bid packages with the contractors and with 1486 02:35:20,490 --> 02:35:23,550 the engineers moving forward so that we can start on different phases at different times on both projects simultaneously. 1487 02:35:28,740 --> 02:35:31,875 the design engineer on lawrence lake, playa 6 is freese and nichols. 1488 02:35:34,065 --> 02:35:37,680 their scope is 8,500 linear foot of 30 inch force main from the new pump station on bell street. 1489 02:35:41,745 --> 02:35:41,745 the new 15 million gallons a day pump station is enclosed in a metal building, 1490 02:35:48,855 --> 02:35:48,855 including the wet well and all of the components that are critical for that operation. 1491 02:35:54,735 --> 02:35:54,735 the electrical equipment instrumentation that ties back into drainage utilities, 1492 02:36:00,750 --> 02:36:03,945 all of that reporting is in place and enhanced. We are also working with freese and nichols to do shovel ready projects on this. 1493 02:36:08,925 --> 02:36:08,925 those projects include the bank stabilization along western plaza drive, 1494 02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:14,640 outfall repairs, and and western and olsen, 1495 02:36:18,720 --> 02:36:20,520 taking a look at those. Playa 6, lawrence lake. 1496 02:36:22,860 --> 02:36:24,705 this would be the pump station layout. You can see that we have three large pumps in there to 1497 02:36:27,330 --> 02:36:31,110 achieve that kind of an outflow going forward. You'll see reflected here, 1498 02:36:32,970 --> 02:36:32,970 the new 30 inch force man that will run up to bell street. 1499 02:36:37,065 --> 02:36:39,540 the majority of that will be bored in, not open trench going forward, 1500 02:36:41,610 --> 02:36:43,980 so we'll be boring that in. We will keep the existing 15 inch pipe, 1501 02:36:47,400 --> 02:36:49,515 which is on the turbine pump, which currently sits inside of lawrence lake. 1502 02:36:52,170 --> 02:36:55,800 the reflected mgds only reflect what we're talking about with regards to the new pump station. 1503 02:37:01,340 --> 02:37:04,320 the other projects, like I said, we're trying to get shovel ready, 1504 02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:06,630 the reconstruct and bank stabilizations. 1505 02:37:10,815 --> 02:37:10,815 we need to repair nine outflows into that lake. 1506 02:37:16,800 --> 02:37:20,775 they're eroding and need to be replaced and reconditioned, as well as some other components of that project. 1507 02:37:24,825 --> 02:37:27,615 what you're looking at here is the timeline. This timeline is a conservative timeline. 1508 02:37:29,970 --> 02:37:31,755 it's a very realistic timeline. We feel though in working with the cmar and with our engineers, 1509 02:37:35,895 --> 02:37:37,845 we can accelerate this. As a matter of fact, we'll be working with them starting tomorrow as a group. 1510 02:37:44,090 --> 02:37:46,515 the survey is complete, subsurface engineering is complete. 1511 02:37:49,215 --> 02:37:52,170 the geotechnical bores are complete. The preliminary design is complete, 1512 02:37:54,495 --> 02:37:58,210 60% of the design for the force main is complete. We expect 90% design to happen within the next 30-40 days, 1513 02:38:03,755 --> 02:38:03,755 60% complete on the pump station design, 1514 02:38:08,420 --> 02:38:11,140 and bank stabilization as well. Playa 7, which is down on the south side of soncy, 1515 02:38:15,510 --> 02:38:18,090 that design engineer is half engineering. Their scope is 14,000 linear foot of 20-inch force main, 1516 02:38:23,455 --> 02:38:27,050 new pump station, which will be very similar to what we're putting in at lawrence lake as well. 1517 02:38:31,130 --> 02:38:31,130 some additional dredging that will take place at playa 7 1518 02:38:35,375 --> 02:38:35,375 to divert the water to the pump station to allow us to have a cleaner installation. 1519 02:38:42,280 --> 02:38:42,280 what you're looking at here is that this was the first design. 1520 02:38:46,595 --> 02:38:50,450 I do not have the completed secondary or alternate design. The alternate design actually comes away from the park that you see 1521 02:38:54,290 --> 02:38:54,290 represented there and continues down soncy to the south side of the lake. 1522 02:38:58,855 --> 02:39:01,950 that's where you're looking at the additional dredging to bring that water level over to the new pump station. 1523 02:39:05,775 --> 02:39:05,775 we feel like that could clean the project up quite a bit and 1524 02:39:10,395 --> 02:39:10,395 also stop our impact coming back to the east from soncy. 1525 02:39:15,615 --> 02:39:15,615 we anticipate having a clear direction on that within the next 30 days for 1526 02:39:21,300 --> 02:39:21,300 that alternate path and see what the cost savings would be for us utilizing it that way. 1527 02:39:26,910 --> 02:39:29,580 as you can see, we're constantly working on value engineering throughout the process on this, 1528 02:39:32,340 --> 02:39:36,270 with our engineering groups and with our cmars. With that, I'd be happy to entertain any questions that you have. 1529 02:39:40,530 --> 02:39:43,190 >> questions, gentlemen. >> on the lawrence lake, 1530 02:39:45,825 --> 02:39:49,785 with our current pumping equipment, what is our capacity for pumping, and what will the new equipment allow us to do? 1531 02:39:52,725 --> 02:39:55,320 >> right now, with lawrence lake, and I'm going to get mr. Harder up here with drainage, 1532 02:39:59,235 --> 02:40:02,430 he has more accurate numbers for what they're currently doing, but we are anticipating diverting to 1533 02:40:05,400 --> 02:40:08,700 where all of our drainage not only splits at lawrence lake, but we're trying to get to where everything moves back to the west bell street. 1534 02:40:13,275 --> 02:40:16,650 >> yes, sir. Our existing pump station does about 3,000. We measure different gallons per minute. 1535 02:40:19,500 --> 02:40:22,425 I don't have my calculator on me, but it's about a third, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. 1536 02:40:23,550 --> 02:40:25,860 we just got about a third of what the new pump station will be. This new pump station will be a significant improvement 1537 02:40:28,350 --> 02:40:30,750 in the amount of water that we can remove from lawrence lake. >> so three times as much water per minute. 1538 02:40:32,835 --> 02:40:36,390 >> approximately. >> which would help avoid the situations that we've had before. But then also the larger force mains are required because we're pumping more out. 1539 02:40:42,585 --> 02:40:46,410 instead of pumping it out on 15, we have to pump it out 30. >> yes, sir. The existing force main wouldn't be able to 1540 02:40:48,510 --> 02:40:51,465 handle the kind of flow that the new pump station would put to it. >> then what will life be like on 1541 02:40:56,115 --> 02:40:56,115 eric during this construction for the residents on there? 1542 02:41:00,630 --> 02:41:04,470 will they have access to the street? Is it a major hindrance, or what will it look like so we can forewarn them what's coming? 1543 02:41:07,665 --> 02:41:11,130 >> we definitely will be putting out press releases going forward, but the fact that we're boring will lessen that impact. 1544 02:41:14,835 --> 02:41:18,780 we're not going to be doing open cut trenching down through there. That was ultimately the goal that we could really control that as best we could. 1545 02:41:23,970 --> 02:41:26,670 now, you can only bore so many linear feet before you have to open a pit and move your boring machine, 1546 02:41:29,640 --> 02:41:33,315 especially with a 30-inch line. We will have some impact, but not to the degree that we would have been looking at had we done an open trench. 1547 02:41:37,605 --> 02:41:40,665 >> thank you. >> any other questions, gentlemen? >> is the pump station going on the land we acquired? 1548 02:41:43,440 --> 02:41:45,840 is that where we're going to build that thing? >> the land you acquired two months ago is where we'll be setting that pump station. 1549 02:41:50,700 --> 02:41:50,700 it's basically right in between discount tire and that little strip mall to the west. 1550 02:41:57,510 --> 02:42:01,470 >> what about that corner that we acquired last year? >> I think it's over on lakeview. 1551 02:42:03,300 --> 02:42:07,200 >> yeah. It's over on lakeview that we talked about excavating, but it didn't really. It would[overlapping]. 1552 02:42:09,300 --> 02:42:11,445 >> you're talking about the one that's across the lake over there? >> yeah. >> yeah. We still own that property. 1553 02:42:13,515 --> 02:42:15,390 basically what it does, it helps with the flood mitigation because no one can build on there because we own it. 1554 02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:21,795 the second piece of that is that when we looked at excavating that, that was the original idea, 1555 02:42:23,775 --> 02:42:26,880 excavate that out, maybe put a pump station on that side. The cost was prohibitive for us to use that, 1556 02:42:29,160 --> 02:42:31,875 and we can get more water out the other way. Really what you gained in excavation of that, 1557 02:42:35,745 --> 02:42:38,550 I think if you looked in the floodplain, and allen, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it lowered that water depth in 1558 02:42:41,370 --> 02:42:44,940 the actual flood zone by about a quarter of an inch. It was no impact. >> that's right. It was a very small amount, 1559 02:42:46,440 --> 02:42:48,780 less than a tenth of an inch. [overlapping] >> it makes sense to put it where it is now for the new force main, 1560 02:42:52,020 --> 02:42:55,605 so we're not having to travel through there and do that. It just makes sense where. >> correct. >> okay. >> it's also much easier access off the i40 frontage road. 1561 02:42:58,320 --> 02:43:00,510 if you remember when we did have the flooding, large parts of olsen were underwater, 1562 02:43:03,270 --> 02:43:05,550 and we would have had to go through that to get to this pump station, whereas the site there on i40 wouldn't be. 1563 02:43:09,045 --> 02:43:11,205 >> that piece of property that we purchased, I think it's lakeview over on that other area. 1564 02:43:13,530 --> 02:43:13,530 once we mitigate the flooding risk over there with the additional pumps, 1565 02:43:17,640 --> 02:43:20,460 do we want to look at the potential of putting that back up for sale and just revenue that back in, 1566 02:43:23,310 --> 02:43:25,230 or do you have a future use for it? >> I wouldn't think so because of where it sets within the floodplain. 1567 02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:32,130 that's one of the first areas that's going to flood. What it does for us is it helps us keep from having some business in there that's going to flood, 1568 02:43:34,425 --> 02:43:36,090 eventually, if you have something like that, but, yeah, I don't think that we would want to put that back on the market [overlapping]. 1569 02:43:39,780 --> 02:43:42,915 >> lake front property. >> yeah. >> I don't know. >> I know. >> mitigating flood issues. 1570 02:43:45,105 --> 02:43:47,250 >> we can put you in office over there. >> perfect. >> yes, sir. Name it after somebody. Really good. 1571 02:43:52,770 --> 02:43:55,170 well, I don't know that I have any questions. Anybody else have any questions for mr. Danforth. 1572 02:43:58,290 --> 02:43:58,290 item 7.10 is before you, gentlemen. 1573 02:44:04,010 --> 02:44:04,010 >> I move to award the construction manager at risk services 1574 02:44:08,310 --> 02:44:08,310 for new lift stations force mains at playa 6 and playa 7. 1575 02:44:12,510 --> 02:44:15,645 >> second. >> motion and a second from place 1. Any further discussion? 1576 02:44:17,235 --> 02:44:19,905 all in favor, please say aye. >> aye. >> any opposed? Motion passes with a 5-0. 1577 02:44:23,250 --> 02:44:25,740 can I get a motion to adjourn? >> move to adjourn. >> move to adjourn. A second? 1578 02:44:27,420 --> 02:44:29,550 >> second. >> second. >> you're adjourned. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen.