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Good evening everyone, lovely to see such a cat house tonight.

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Welcome to the June 20th Council meeting to start things off. Will you please join me for the pledge of allegiance?

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How would I get the date share?

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I've played two years, two and a half years.

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I'm a United States mayor of Europe,

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and I'm sure you're going to have a little bit of a good day

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and an organization that I've got in it as well,

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the liberty and thus this is all.

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You're toast.

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Present.

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Here.

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The sheet.

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The centers in here.

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The center of the college.

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Here.

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This course.

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Before we start tonight's regular program,

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a chief boardhouse.

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He has some present.

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But even the air, what are you doing?

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What's a recognized three of our hands

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of a girl crossing the river?

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Oh, no.

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No.

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Not easily, they stand out to condition, you know,

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they eat the cold, the rain sometimes, just no.

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And their job is very important for the safety

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of our children in the river.

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So it wasn't my idea.

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It was very well, very wet.

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It's for writing the script.

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I can hear the script.

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I can't take the credit.

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So Terry and often in the top, they're charged with recruiting

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and managing a overnight crock in the market.

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He's always revolving.

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We're constantly losing and we need to get into the one.

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It's sometimes to be challenged and she covered crock and golfing.

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And often, you know, you know.

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So what I'd like to present tonight,

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Starting with the Lord of the Shari.

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First, thank you.

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All that is correct.

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If you follow that, I don't know why.

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And we're also doing that.

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You can do that.

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You can do that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I'm not there.

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I'm just like, 10.

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I'm just like, 1-2.

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Yeah, 1-2, 3-2.

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Oh, really?

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I've been to 1-3.

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I know, I'm just like, that's right.

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And also, we have figuratively.

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It's a ball of horns.

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I'm just like,

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1-2.

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And once again,

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Thank

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you all for watching.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay,

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so then our first year of business is evening.

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The committee will consider the following recommendations.

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The May 2023 bills be paid in the amount of $2,036,830 and $030 and $030.

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Number two, attached for consideration is an ordinance for a residential inspection program for resell properties.

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The committee will consider advertising the ordinance for adoption.

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Number three, attached are the bids for the Edgewood Drive Storm Pipe Grant.

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Recommendation for contract award is requested.

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The grant funds do not cover the low-bid contract costs.

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A decision is needed to move forward using reserve funds to cover the shortage.

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And then, number four, the public hearing is being moved to a later date for the Amplero Lake View

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Development application.

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And the following business will be discussed.

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The Burrow Engineers Report was received.

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All right, so we'll start with number two, which is why I assume almost all of you are here.

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So, I want to try to run this in the most organized way that we can, and after watching

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last week, last two weeks ago meeting, it's a little disjointed hard to follow, so what

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I want to do is break down each section of the ordinance and go one piece at a time where we'll

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Committee discussion, Council discussion, and then public comment on just one thing at a time, so we'll go through the electrical

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Committee, Council Public, we'll go through sidewalks, Committee Council Public. I think it'll be easier

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for everybody to follow, get their thoughts out and

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Just keep it more clear. So

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One other reminder, there's a lot of people here try to keep just

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Just remember that only one person can speak at a time during comment, and we'll make sure we hear everyone, whatever one has to say.

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So, what I would like to start with is the section of the ordinance 11207 exterior maintenance. I know it's in the middle, but I think this one might be one of the easiest sections to deal with.

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My recollection of last meeting is that it seemed that the consensus was to get rid of this portion of the ordinance.

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So, that would be my preferences to get rid of the exterior maintenance inspection.

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But, and that was my recollection as that was kind of the consensus, but let's see how many comments from the committee first.

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I do think House numbers are important. Can we replace that with an affidavit saying that the House numbers are posted or will be posted within 30 days of purchase?

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That's a good idea.

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I agree with that.

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Okay.

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Any other thoughts from the committee on the exterior maintenance inspection?

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Rest the council?

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Yeah.

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I like just breaking it down to affidavit.

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Okay.

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That makes sense to me.

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Anything else from Council before I go into the public on this section alone?

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All right. Does anybody from the public want to make any comment on that specific section of the ordinance?

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Exterior maintenance inspection.

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If you want to.

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Yeah. Why?

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If you don't mind coming up to the microphone, state your name and address and.

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So Tim Deggan, 50 Church Street, who worked free, so I just understood that section I of that section is canceled,

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and then just that's already in the existence,

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that's nothing new from the process.

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I don't think so, yeah, and it would be an affidavit, not an inspection, so there won't be a requirement for somebody to come out to that.

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I believe so, yes.

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Yes, so help. Any other?

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I'm handling one of our applications.

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Yeah. I think you said it, but I don't know if everybody

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heard it when you were getting started. You were into the

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new order of all tonight.

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Right. Yeah.

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So there is a vote tonight.

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Right.

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So any of those changes that we suggest tonight will go

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back to we could vote to I guess to advertise it or

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descend it back to Joe depending on how much change we

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make, but we won't be making a final vote tonight.

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Okay.

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So.

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You have to.

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You have to.

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Bring it on.

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I'm going to send it.

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My question is.

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As you're going to remember viewing a piece.

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That won't be the same.

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I'm going to be close to.

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It would be voted on and that's right.

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Yes.

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So the next thing we'll do is I'm going to combine.

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Super lateral inspection requirements and backflow prevention requirements.

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requirements. I think that they go together well. They're both the plumbing issues.

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So, I

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guess what I'd like to do first if possible, Mary, if you could give the explanation

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for what specifically is the backflow protector and any DEP changes regarding the backflow.

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We currently have a requirement for it back to us,

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and then this is nothing else.

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This is already in our words.

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Where we do have a great time sometimes

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as we do not perceive these.

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But we do, attempting to go back to get into a part

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and do to look at it, we're very small.

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We're pumping it, you know, there's a lot of questions.

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We're very small.

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We get to a point where you can pretend you need

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or the top or the top.

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We end up setting front and shut off letters

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to get into a house because we are poor.

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I mean, I'm busy, no one opens a mail, no one opens the letters.

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So it's a little tough.

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If back to a preventive, is a requirement about six months ago,

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three five months ago, our account is actually a

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priority company to handle the outside.

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There's inspections, there's fees, this is not only outside.

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They did not do that for the internal customer.

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They didn't want to put that on and so that company on them chasing

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them down and all the fees.

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But it still needs to be done to protect the entire

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water supply, the only requirement, this is not a

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we're making up randomly to assign fees or anything to anyone else.

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Not getting information back is tough.

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The second part of this, the new requirement that we are

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roughing our heads around in the last couple of months is we need to identify

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through every house if there is a lead, whether it's in the street, whether it's in the

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brown, whether it's in the connection coming into the house.

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We've learned money and we've learned about everyone's platform.

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There's no other way to tell, rather than

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going inside looking at the place coming in the house

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and we can determine if it's galvanized in the place.

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This is not something the borough is deciding

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to do on the run where required to do this are intent

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to save money and to save going into everyone's house.

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The borough is to strategically, when we get closing,

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we can look at the address, look at the development.

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When we don't see, don't have seen crying during

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And it turned into a work in two, three of these houses, and there's no like, it's crazy.

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So those two items are not thorough, wishless items to put these or limitations of one humblers.

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They are requirements that are weak, hot to go.

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So that is the backflip for better and the led pipe.

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So that is why we need to get it.

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Joe will adjust the third part of this, which is the eye not.

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So laterals, of course, are the connect the home to the sewer main system in many systems.

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The laterals, when we add them all together, are as long as the main system, because there's so many of them.

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The connection where the lateral meets the main is often a point of the control, as is all laterals themselves.

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The mind can have inflow an infiltration from stormwater or ground-wine that find the way

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into those cracks.

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And then once they're into that system, they have to be treated at the plant.

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So the treatment plant is only made to treat sanitary sewer, but when you have cracks in the

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system, we can have an upset of millions of gallons in one grain of that that we have

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We've been under a consent order with people once a year,

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where we are all the people in the concentration.

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One of the most important ways that that's done,

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and it's wanted to be this power everywhere in the viral inspections.

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Because generally, it's expected as often as the means,

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for the means, the birth is higher to come in,

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and you have to turn around on one of the means they know what they've got.

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with the lateral pressure and all we need to do is show whether you can do that and that's what you can do.

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The matter was whether it's a privacy right, whether it's just, you know, it makes people angry, whatever the reason.

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The matter was don't get inspected as often, so that makes it more critical that they get inspected at this time of the transfer when people have money out at their transactional money.

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And there's an opportunity to get collateral fits.

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It is, again, not just something that is made up by the borough to impose the last one people.

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is an obligation to reduce inflowary infiltrations of the services.

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Yeah, I'm going to take that one step further.

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I call it our ways to retrieve a plan, which is a smaller plan, which

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you've for lower-minded with being white-marish, amber, and upper-double-end.

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The last one is to bring that we had, we had an additional 5 million gallons

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going into the plan.

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Over two inches of rain, in one day, 15 million.

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So, this is a critical problem, we are treating this, we are paying for it, and our plant

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can only take so much.

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If it overflows, it goes into the creek, it impacts everyone, it impacts drinking water,

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and we know what's being in the barrel, we've had floods here, we have oil times to flip

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over.

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All of these things go into the creek, if the plant can't handle that flow and can't treat

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it, we're in a very, very bad way.

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So these are very important things that we're doing and we're doing it to be able to provide

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Clean water keeps it, keeps the creeps clean, which we need to do, and to protect the

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homeless from us having fines and costly repairs, and, you know, the worst of it would be

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where they don't allow us to have any work done, and you can't put additional in your house,

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you can't increase your flow, you can put an in-law suite in, there's, it stops all of our

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development in the area for many challenges. So, it's also not, there's, there's some guy here

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tonight who's moving to get me fired because I'm an idiot.

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That's that guy.

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So to clarify, if you look to that, to clarify, the ordinance does not require any

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disclosure in anybody's agreement of sale.

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Nobody's telling you what you have to disclose in an agreement of sale.

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There is a state law that says that the town's local towns can't tell you what you

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have to disclose in an agreement of sale.

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And there is absolutely no attention you are to do that.

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No, no, no.

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They're all coming.

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We'll take public comment.

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We'll take public comment once we get to not yet.

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I'll tell you.

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We will take public comment when it is time for public comments.

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Our promise we will get to you.

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So I do want to back up to a little bit of the four of what Mary and Joe explains,

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just a brief primer on our water and wastewater systems.

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Any water that goes down a drain in a building, toilets,

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sinks, showers, washing machines, dishwashers.

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All of that water goes to our wastewater treatment plant

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down at the end of South Man Street,

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where those do an extensive system of purification,

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because then it is literally dumped right down there

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right into the creek, where down the stream it becomes filled

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off your drinking water.

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So we have very, very high mandated levels of what we need

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to treat that water for before we can release it out into the creek.

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Water from storms that goes down the storm drains

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in the sides of the streets.

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All of those drains go directly into the creek.

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That water is not treated at all.

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So that's why you're not allowed to dump it anything gross,

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let alone toxic, down those storm drains in the streets.

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When a your sewer lateral that goes into your house is old, like many of ours are, like many

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of ours, more of this all affects all of us too, and as Joe mentioned, when we have a huge

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drain event, if there are cracks in that pipe that is meant to take wastewater from the drains

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in your house out into our waste water treatment system, and water gets in there through all

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the cracks. That's how that's why when these big rain events overflow and just completely

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overwhelm our waste water treatment plant because they are meant to take the waste water for inside

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of our buildings. That plant does not design to treat storm water runoff. And if we start, we all know

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we're getting more rain than we ever used to.

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If we need to start expanding our plants

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to handle all of this additional water

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that is going into that plant that is not supposed

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to be going into that plant, we'll have to expand the plant.

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And that means everybody's sewer rates will go off.

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And it means that we won't be allowed to add

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any more customers to the plant, which means

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that new bathroom you want to put in your house, you're not going to be allowed to do it.

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So, again, the boroughs not making any money on any of this stuff.

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These are all for the good of the boroughs, for all the different reasons we're going to

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discuss tonight at all of these different levels.

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One other thing good is just to add to the other topic that I mean,

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there's the law that says that local towns can't tell you what to put in agreement with sale.

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That's the one I mentioned. There's a separate law that says that you can adopt these progress.

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It's just a specific law about that.

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Now, in a sense, what you can do, you can't require a escrow.

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You can't hold people up over settle the date, okay?

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But the law is based on the premise that you are allowed to have these programs as

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deafness and municipalities, which is half of the suggestion that it's illegal is just completely

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incorrect.

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Yeah.

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We're actually in a minority of municipalities that don't have any of these requirements.

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Thank you.

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Back to you, Lily.

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Okay.

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So we'll discuss with the committee first.

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I did have actually two questions.

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I guess for either Jell or Mary, I'm not sure.

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Where did we come up with the numbers in here, the 24 months,

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and then the five years?

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Is there just suggestions?

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There are all kinds of discussions.

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Can you change it?

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Okay.

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So do we, do you know what these average life span of a new lateral would be?

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Like, one that's put in now, like if we replace it today, not like no, we have one that has been in 50 years so they could be perfectly fine.

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We had ones that were put in a Madison state, the water lines that we already have weeks and they are two years old.

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We have ones in a bird that are harder to solve and still don't.

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So you really don't know, so two years, three years, you can make it five years.

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Glenn just put a number in there, you know, based on our, we're a scenario.

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Okay.

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You feel free to.

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So those numbers.

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Those were very common links at time.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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That was going to be my next question.

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I know some of the neighboring municipalities have this, a lot of neighboring municipalities

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have sewer lateral inspection.

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I know Norris Town does, North Wales does, half field does, those are just a couple examples.

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But I was wondering if what their time frames were if they were similar to this or shorter

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or longer.

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If you now intended to be roughly in average of what we were seeing, but we'd best, the actual time frames, nobody's lost, but they're not a legal advantage.

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All right.

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And I think we're wondering that too, because if a house gets, you know, a fine-save a problem, replace their lateral, and then two years later they sell, are they going to have to get inspected again?

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They shouldn't have to, that's when you can make it three years, you can make it five years, you know, I think anything in that window you're fine.

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Well, it's five years.

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It's five years now.

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Five years.

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Five years.

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But that's only for inspection.

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And presumably, the inspection would be solved,

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but if you wanted to extend the other years.

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The inspection was two years.

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And then if it's replaced, it's five years.

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I was just wondering if that five years could be,

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would make sense to extend, or...

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Sure.

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Would it make sense to me?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I just wasn't sure what the average life

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spent, we could expect out of a lot of all.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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All right.

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Any thoughts from the committee?

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I'm doing some research.

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I found that Montgomery Township sewer authority.

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They've added to their, what they haven't,

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they've partnered with service line warranties of America,

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and they have a voluntary option for lateral insurance,

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and based on their, do we have that?

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Do we have them for lateral?

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Thank you.

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That was the question.

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For water.

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Just for water.

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Right.

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County.

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I'm not sure if they still do.

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Fox County offered a program.

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Were they offered water and silver?

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And I believe they still offer that.

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So can get.

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And just on their sample letter, I'm a gunry township.

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It was like $6 a month for lateral insurance.

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And I know we only have water right now.

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So was that something that we would...

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I don't that's too much for us, exactly.

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It's not too much.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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It may help for people, you know, they did help for the right, okay, but you know, there's other companies out there they're doing for these.

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Any other comments, questions from the committee?

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I appreciate the context.

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Thank you.

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Anything else from the rest of Council?

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Yeah, I'm just that chicken town has a, they have the sewer lateral inspections done down there.

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And just piggyback off a Nancy, just easy about insurance for the laterals.

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And you know.

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Jake and Tom, some doubt if I'm Jake and Tom, they have 27% have come back that need it repairs.

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73% did not need repairs so far in their testing.

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Shelton Hems, that 21% of the laterals need repairs.

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So, and they were very, very cost with the PADP, you know, with their inspections, and this is the same research that Nancy and if I have the same.

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Yeah, and I think it's also worthwhile to mention, you know, the video may be $200, $200, $250 and you've got different prices.

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If you have to repair this design, you need $10,000 expense.

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I had replaced my waterline.

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I had replaced a portion of my silver, which was a portion of $4,000.

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That wasn't my old one.

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Although these expense upfront, I think it's very important.

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I know myself as a homeowner and as a resident,

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one I want to know that we're not going to overflow

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and impacts our system in two.

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I don't want to move into a house.

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the house is in the bar or values for substantially more each year, you don't want to move

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the interest in property and then get hit with a $6,700 dollar bill. So the information

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is very important for all of you to have. And we don't make any money off of it whatsoever.

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And also, as I think Joe mentioned earlier, then selling your home, you're negotiating,

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you're

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make one diamond, you know, little tiny things. So it is better for everyone to do these

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things when there's money on the table and there's negotiations and talks already happening

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then if we were to say, okay we're going to start a solar lateral inspection program where we

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could inspect your house or and find a problem and add to the blue you would have to do our

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slow down, but it's getting so empty.

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Yeah, true.

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So Mary, given the wastewater treatment, hitting capacity,

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or during storms and things like that,

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how many houses are going to settlement a year inambler?

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And with I and I, is that really aggressive enough

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environmentally just to do it at the point of a real state

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sale?

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We've investigated all her lateral speeds.

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I know that we've done it because we've done mine

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We're probably going to start it again, probably in the next year or two, because I think

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by the time we completed it, maybe four years ago, I don't know how to be more aggressive

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than like Joe said.

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There is litigation on whether you can go out and we can't video someone's lateral.

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It's innovation on their privacy, but I'm aware of it.

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It's a question.

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I'm just a question, because I mean, if we are facing storms, I don't know, you know, higher

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in inches and whatnot, you know we might be looking at a situation five years down the road

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where just waiting for a home inspection may not be enough for our own wastewater treatment.

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And additionally just the increased load both in the actual contaminants and the volume

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of water getting to the plant is adding additional costs to the chemicals we're purchasing

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every year and that's continuing and that's just going to keep building and building so it's

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to me it's not just you know it's a public safety thing but it's also impacting our

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public utilities and also our costs so if we have an increase in we're getting stormwater in

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the waste stream of plant we're paying for that residents we're then paying for that to be treated

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and that is coming through our sewer bill so we are paying for it no matter what correct

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But our global flow could be three, four million, when it key

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had 19 million gallons

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going to be so in the power of go-out, and we've gone on generator.

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I mean, okay.

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But in that show, that amount of water being released, if everything goes.

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Well, I mean, we could look at a catastrophic situation, and we know that's possible that

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we may be looking at something catastrophic if we don't take care of this.

447
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Now, that's, I don't want to be doom and gloom, but we certainly have seen this in other

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parts of the country.

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And when you hit up set, when you can no longer process when the number's too big, you're just putting flow into the work, you're just putting off flow into the process.

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Right, right. And then as then Philadelphia's not, you know, you know, the can drink the water.

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So to me, it's like any anyway, we can lessen the load on the, you know, are already aging facilities is it's a trickle down effect where you're not seeing as met, you know, we won't have to increase the sewer bill to keep up with the increase load.

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So it translates to the public utilities in the same way.

453
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And additionally, it's also just public safety.

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How many of our kids or dogs go in splash and burlapark

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or down in, if you know that that's what's leaking

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through the groundwater entering the creek that you're

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You know, families enjoy. It's not just about, you know, real state transaction here. It's to me, it's the public safety and cold, too.

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Yes, being caused by this.

459
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Right.

460
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So I, I also was wondering about the 24 months and the five years if that was just, that's just suggested by that with other ordinance or have things that are similar.

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Okay,

462
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and then the only other thing that I was in, this is just a question, but under the serial

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arrow, we have in here that first staff may answer this question, be present or set inspection.

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Can you give me an example of when that would be?

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One way to do that, it's something we've identified that it's making, and then do a

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repair, we will go out and we will investigate it.

467
00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:00,830
Obviously, it comes right up.

468
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Remember what would be a tune, and we would usually inspect before it's closed back up.

469
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So, we didn't want to say we would never be there, but with most permits, we do expect.

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Okay.

471
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But it wouldn't be a normal one.

472
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So, we're right.

473
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We're not going to go out with you.

474
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:13,570
We're not going to go out with you.

475
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:14,010
We're not going to go out with you.

476
00:31:14,290 --> 00:31:14,430
We're not going to go out with you.

477
00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:16,630
You know, contact the borough.

478
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I've got a plumber coming out for inspection and waiting on Glenn to be here, too.

479
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It would only be if a repair is needed, the borrower would never be there during the actual inspection by the farmer.

480
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That's human inspection.

481
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Right.

482
00:31:39,270 --> 00:31:42,350
I think that wording could be, I think that's,

483
00:31:42,770 --> 00:31:45,290
It wasn't kind of the far end of the off end.

484
00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:45,610
Okay.

485
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:46,970
That's really good.

486
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:48,010
Where's the situation?

487
00:31:48,890 --> 00:31:50,310
You know, you kind of worked with that.

488
00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:53,030
It's been from, like, really just like these folks down.

489
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:54,610
But, you know, we're...

490
00:31:54,610 --> 00:31:56,910
But it's not normal for me to make that.

491
00:31:57,150 --> 00:31:58,590
I mean, you know, I think that's easy.

492
00:31:59,330 --> 00:31:59,730
Yeah.

493
00:31:59,830 --> 00:32:02,490
And I guess if we had a situation like that,

494
00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:05,130
it wouldn't really fall under this ordinance,

495
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:06,890
which would be at the time of sale.

496
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:09,390
It would be under, like, hey, my neighbor's door.

497
00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:10,150
Yeah.

498
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:10,770
You know what I mean?

499
00:32:10,770 --> 00:32:12,950
And then this is, I mean, we get it.

500
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:15,570
As a wiser, people said, we get chemical hit.

501
00:32:15,650 --> 00:32:17,310
We have no idea where the coming from.

502
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:19,830
We're after looking around, what line to come into,

503
00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:20,370
we're testing.

504
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:23,810
This happens is, we have pharmaceuticals that

505
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:25,470
feed in from other units of nowadays.

506
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:28,610
So it's often, it's things happening.

507
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:30,990
We do, we've had to, anyway, we are about to do that.

508
00:32:31,130 --> 00:32:34,490
We think someone's probably something in there will be that anyway.

509
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:39,070
I just wasn't there, but I'm only not familiar with it.

510
00:32:39,490 --> 00:32:39,850
Yeah, OK.

511
00:32:39,850 --> 00:32:41,190
Let's clarify that line.

512
00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:43,210
Thank you.

513
00:32:43,270 --> 00:32:44,070
Thank you.

514
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:44,850
Thank you.

515
00:32:45,550 --> 00:32:48,190
I have a question for either Joe or Mary.

516
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:52,670
This state's editor, Wayne Fontana.

517
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:56,210
Several years ago, sponsored in the past.

518
00:32:57,070 --> 00:33:00,110
And it's now Act 44 in Harrisburg.

519
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:02,650
And it is where that allows local municipalities.

520
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:04,750
And it's basically about this issue.

521
00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:07,790
And the financial hardship it may cause for some people.

522
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:15,470
And it allows for local municipalities to make public funds available to repair or replace

523
00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:21,210
broken sewer laterals or contaminated water lines when they pose a threat to public health

524
00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:21,890
or safety.

525
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:27,870
And then the municipalities can decide on the guidelines and who would qualify for such

526
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:28,270
a thing.

527
00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:29,870
Are you familiar with that, Joe?

528
00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:36,130
Generally, yes, that one was created to address the fact that, as a general state, it's

529
00:33:36,130 --> 00:33:39,230
not allowed to come with funds to thrive in communities.

530
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:43,510
From later on, we're owned by each other, and you're sincere, you're not spoon at me.

531
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:45,590
Public money to help you in the digital moment.

532
00:33:46,410 --> 00:33:50,410
And so that law is one of those other things that we're doing, or actually not by saying,

533
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:53,670
to be a matter of emergency justice, you can be public money to help.

534
00:33:54,210 --> 00:33:59,570
And now do you know any municipalities that have set up any type of program?

535
00:33:59,570 --> 00:34:04,070
for funding in the case that there was an extreme hardship.

536
00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:05,610
I know there are.

537
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,660
Okay, that would be helpful, I think.

538
00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:11,200
I agree.

539
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:19,700
And just my final comment is that, you know, I first hand one of the lucky ones that did get to experience this exact issue.

540
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:26,420
So this to me is one of the most important ones with two months in our new home while I was in labor.

541
00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:32,760
we had brought sewage back up into our sink. And we had to deal with this obviously right away.

542
00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:36,940
We were expecting parents with, you know, obviously when you buy a new house,

543
00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:42,000
you buy a lot of new things, and you have a lot of extra expenses. And having $5 to $10,000

544
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:48,920
for that on hand, we didn't have that. We had to borrow it. We had to immediately, on a weekend,

545
00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:54,080
have someone come out. It was a nightmare. And if we had known that and been able to factor that

546
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,460
to the cross of the home it would have we wouldn't have even noticed it in our monthly payments.

547
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:07,460
So to me it's personally having experienced it I would not wish that upon anyone and if I was buying an

548
00:35:07,460 --> 00:35:12,240
anambler I would again I would be more likely to buy anambler knowing this was here.

549
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,540
Knowing this would protect me from that happening again.

550
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,560
So for I know a lot of people if I've been getting feedback that people would be less likely to buy anambler because of

551
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,540
ordinances, but to me having experience what I did, I would feel the exact opposite.

552
00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:26,560
So that's all.

553
00:35:26,580 --> 00:35:27,860
Aaron, I completely agree.

554
00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:31,060
And I've shared this with some of the people that reached out.

555
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,160
A lot of you reached out.

556
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:34,640
And I'm so glad to hear from the public.

557
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,380
I don't care what you're saying.

558
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,420
I'm so glad to hear from all of you.

559
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,080
And I'm thrilled that the room is packed.

560
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,700
But I like Aaron.

561
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160
So my very first council meeting, which Mary probably remembers,

562
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,320
was when I first moved to Amber and my house flooded.

563
00:35:49,900 --> 00:36:18,720
And it was the disaster, and I didn't know that, you know, on Southern Avenue, if you lived at the top of the, if you lived in the middle of the street, if your neighbors have at the top weren't clear, and there are drains every five minutes, but, I mean, tens of thousands of dollars, you know, were lost, and then, same as there, and you buy a house, and you put everything that you have into it, every single penny, or am I getting the money for a French drink? You know, I mean, I get it, we, I think most of us in the room have been there.

564
00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:26,280
So, I think we're looking at little ways to help from all about the public safety.

565
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:37,420
I'm not about any kind of overreach that's not going to work for me, which is why I wanted to clarify Barrow staff, being there, but we've got to meet these requirements.

566
00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:44,240
We've got to protect that water treatment plan. I've been there. I've seen that thing in action.

567
00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:53,900
that is that is just critical to amber. I would be in favor of maybe talking about

568
00:36:53,900 --> 00:37:01,720
extending the time. I don't think people are flipping houses that that much, you know,

569
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:08,960
I think people come here and they stay here. So I would be in favor of talking about maybe

570
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,960
increasing, maybe the 36 months, and I'm not sure I have much wiggle room on that one,

571
00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:20,380
but the five years, I'd be in favor of a conversation about extending that, maybe.

572
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,260
I agree with that, Amy. Extending those time periods.

573
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,900
Oh, make sense. These are my thoughts on that.

574
00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:32,750
Any other comments from Council before I get to the public?

575
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:42,790
Okay. Yes. So public comment right now just on, I just want to clarify on the two plumbing issues.

576
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:47,310
So back to where lateral. Just state your name and your address please.

577
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:09,730
Matt, you know that I read.

578
00:38:10,250 --> 00:38:11,210
I don't think it's a matter.

579
00:38:12,430 --> 00:38:14,610
I said matter.

580
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:16,230
Okay.

581
00:38:16,890 --> 00:38:17,310
Okay.

582
00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:17,910
We're not.

583
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:19,050
We're not.

584
00:38:19,350 --> 00:38:20,150
Asked you answered.

585
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:22,750
I've got a warehouse to answer that I think.

586
00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:25,490
All right, sir.

587
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:26,590
Sir, sir, you can make.

588
00:38:26,830 --> 00:38:28,310
We can one at a time, please.

589
00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:29,390
All right.

590
00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:39,380
I have not.

591
00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:47,110
I know where the.

592
00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:47,850
There.

593
00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:51,160
There.

594
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,020
It's an on.

595
00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:57,420
It's.

596
00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:57,480
It's.

597
00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:57,900
It's.

598
00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:58,900
It's.

599
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:00,180
It's.

600
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:00,480
It's.

601
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:00,540
Okay.

602
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:01,020
Even.

603
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:01,460
It's.

604
00:39:01,460 --> 00:39:05,120
My friend, everybody we need to, we, we, we quiet.

605
00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:07,020
Anybody is speaking please.

606
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:08,720
So thank you.

607
00:39:08,860 --> 00:39:11,600
As always, stating, I don't think any of you ever

608
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,540
dug up a sewer ladder.

609
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,620
I have, and very few of them, if ever,

610
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,460
seemed to be leaking other than if they had like a tree

611
00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:21,280
grown through it.

612
00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:23,760
And it was mentioned tonight about the rain.

613
00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:27,640
We just had the

614
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:37,440
drop.

615
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:38,360
The turn of all is

616
00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:41,760
from the manhole.

617
00:39:45,310 --> 00:39:45,890
From the rain.

618
00:39:45,890 --> 00:39:51,430
were one of the, like, man, man, man, no blurry part of the set of things. And I had a

619
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:56,310
manual that was cracked right outside of my house. I picked about it through one period of time.

620
00:39:56,410 --> 00:40:00,530
I never picked. So I'm sure we could walk around the barrel on my manual. There was

621
00:40:00,530 --> 00:40:05,750
a matter of fact, one of my walk-over here from my residence is just up the street. It's not

622
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:08,870
going to be crossing the main street. It's not going to be crossing the window. It's just a half

623
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:11,290
of it. So, let's check it loose.

624
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:15,400
So, I'm just going to put that out there and possibly

625
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,840
And let's look into some more data about where we're getting our information, about where

626
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,720
we're coming.

627
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:25,180
But we're making people do something that's not necessarily quiet.

628
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,300
So that's the sort of knowledge we're going to work to back over them.

629
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,380
That thing I want to go on with a simple burrow can do.

630
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,140
It's a demand hour at five.

631
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,060
You build periodically.

632
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,880
Same thing with the sale of a house.

633
00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:39,660
I'm going to have it every so often.

634
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,460
Say, hey, somebody to walk around and go.

635
00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:47,180
It's not going to be important to say what's going to manate for you or your chair.

636
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920
You want to look at the order of your guest, what you can see.

637
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:53,300
If there is, or it is not, the back of the bed.

638
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:55,480
Simple as that.

639
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,460
So that could be one solution to that.

640
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,700
Without having to go to the graphic measure, it has the importance to make everybody else.

641
00:41:04,340 --> 00:41:08,020
And those bars and the lateral bars, the sewer again, back and back,

642
00:41:11,820 --> 00:41:21,360
You can't go looking up somebody's sewer, because there are problems, you're going to have that a thorn without a horn.

643
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:24,020
You get a horn, don't look at my lateral.

644
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,660
I hope you haven't done that already.

645
00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:32,340
I hope, as far as the main line, scope, that wasn't done.

646
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,500
Thank you for your comment.

647
00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:42,540
Anyone?

648
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:43,940
Do you support?

649
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,740
Just say your name and address please?

650
00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:52,500
It's been a mention 11 more states, but we have learned the soundboard a lot of y'all say.

651
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,700
It's not at home, but we do want it.

652
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:03,120
We are facing historical crisis, raising in this race, and it has become fully upward.

653
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,100
Are you aware that how it's on, you have to have to feel what you're talking about?

654
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,460
You are putting that burden on us.

655
00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:18,940
I guess that your thing is mandated to be done, you're playing an on me, and my family and people who want to sell their homes,

656
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:20,800
they're all people running me out.

657
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,480
It doesn't feel fair that I should have the case on this.

658
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,960
You're a little closer to certain people, meaning that we have to do it.

659
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:32,160
But you need to be done, you got to find another way to get it out there.

660
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:35,610
Thank you.

661
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,500
It's not a question in the answer.

662
00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:49,480
Is that clarification?

663
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,060
For how long have I gone?

664
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:52,440
They only, they elect you.

665
00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:54,180
But this is generally from your comments.

666
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,540
It's not on the date.

667
00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:57,540
I'm not really looking for anything.

668
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,520
But that's what you're on on the date.

669
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,380
It's crazy.

670
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Some questions will comment then.

671
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:03,920
I'm going to hear you guys.

672
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:07,060
First of all, it's up to you.

673
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,120
You feel like there is a great burden in your face.

674
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:32,240
I guess perhaps if one can find the question in depth, it seems that there is not been a very thorough explanation about commercial properties.

675
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,300
question about their own companies.

676
00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:37,160
That's what we're talking about.

677
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:38,700
I think that's not the case.

678
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,700
We have to think, I agree with you,

679
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:43,180
it's just when we have to not miss method.

680
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,480
But I'm an evidence based down,

681
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,720
and I like to know,

682
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,460
when you look at new ways,

683
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,000
but this is kind of a way to say,

684
00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:53,540
and you're going to be doing this in place.

685
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:56,140
What are we going to do now,

686
00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:57,320
if we can call this one?

687
00:43:58,620 --> 00:44:00,440
And we're talking about a lot of these water here,

688
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,020
whether it be what's supposed to be coming out of our own or something else.

689
00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:09,120
It's supposed to be something else, but it's supposed to be something else.

690
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,720
One of the things you have is that we're seeing it now, how do you see it?

691
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,200
Do you think you can have it, especially if you throw a hole?

692
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,200
Are we seeing commercial things happening?

693
00:44:16,580 --> 00:44:17,540
How do you see this?

694
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:20,580
Thank you.

695
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:23,680
I think a manual property out of the answers.

696
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,320
I think we can address commercial properties, we're all being inspected by a third party right now under the

697
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,640
charge to them.

698
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:30,620
We did not do that.

699
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:31,960
That was done several months ago.

700
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:33,640
That was not done to the residents.

701
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:38,740
We are trying to handle that, where we can go out, verify the fact that those who

702
00:44:38,740 --> 00:44:43,240
then are seeing whether or not it's led, and it's checked and it's no cost to you.

703
00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:51,540
And anyone who's bought a house in the Fire Department is 30 years should have one already.

704
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:53,040
You're real estate agent.

705
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,080
That was her responsibility.

706
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,800
It's responsibility.

707
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,820
Make sure that this was done at the time that you bought your house.

708
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:04,260
You know, if you've been here, you know, less than 34 years, chances are you have it all right.

709
00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:07,400
Yes, all right, or if there's a patient that's a comment. Sure.

710
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Is there a time-brain that's required to this commercial property like you're required?

711
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,780
That's the pre-visitability of the residential property.

712
00:45:14,620 --> 00:45:18,200
There are sending letters that's all of them right now. Yes, we're going on in the same.

713
00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:23,240
I'm asking when we'll, that's not easy to visit a building. You have to see a question by a year or so now.

714
00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:25,340
I'm not sure what you're asking.

715
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:28,400
Well, you're asking that a homeowner, a lot of it's been replaced.

716
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,980
Your instructions are over the other year.

717
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:31,320
You're on belly.

718
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Not just at the time of self.

719
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:33,820
I understand.

720
00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:35,220
You know it.

721
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,800
I'm back here at the school.

722
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,500
I'm out of silence.

723
00:45:38,780 --> 00:45:39,820
I don't want her to get lost.

724
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,820
So, Marina was 21 months and happened.

725
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,820
I know a lot of you know that I send a lot of questions and concerns.

726
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,280
And I just want to make it general common as you go to get too far into this.

727
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:08,800
That I think all our questions and concerns need to be answered and addressed before you can think about advertising it.

728
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,760
A lot of the things overlap, so when we go sort of the same, so a lot of things go overlap,

729
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,240
so we'll probably need to be talking about that at the end.

730
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,460
But I think a lot of people took the time in energy to send you questions and concerns,

731
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:27,860
and I think they all need to be addressed in a transparent, concise and honest manner,

732
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,820
before you begin to think about moving forward with it.

733
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Thank you.

734
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:33,520
Sir?

735
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,240
Hi, Ben.

736
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:53,040
As a couple of the previous speakers mentioned, I think this is an undue bird on the

737
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:59,000
property owners that's asking them to pay for the burrow data collected, I think you

738
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,140
want to know where.

739
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Who's that?

740
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:01,820
Who's that?

741
00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:04,920
For the data collect that the burrow is trying to do?

742
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:11,270
No, we're going out and doing the inspection ourselves at no cost to you when you're

743
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:17,330
equivalent of the letter and the led by there is no cost. We are required to give the data.

744
00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:20,470
I can't change the GDP requirement. We must.

745
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:21,030
You're asking.

746
00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:28,690
So you're saying that that requirement is not the home order to pay for a plumber to inspect the letter.

747
00:47:29,350 --> 00:47:29,970
No, that's different.

748
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:32,070
David, I'm talking about the backslip of the letter.

749
00:47:33,070 --> 00:47:36,030
And whether or not the line coming in is led will be done by the barrel.

750
00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:39,190
And no, there is no charge for that.

751
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:43,630
If you need the plumbing work, if you do not have that in your house, it is a deep requirement,

752
00:47:43,890 --> 00:47:47,690
not just the borough environment, yes, that would be in a cost to the owner, if you don't have

753
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:49,130
what you wish you should have one now.

754
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:51,290
That's a sewer line, it's also a data plan.

755
00:47:52,030 --> 00:47:52,790
Yes, for deepening.

756
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:54,310
For the owner of the paying.

757
00:47:55,070 --> 00:47:58,050
For every customer in this town paying, they're so about to pay.

758
00:47:58,050 --> 00:47:59,690
Well that was not just a big plan.

759
00:48:00,310 --> 00:48:00,610
No, I don't.

760
00:48:00,710 --> 00:48:00,950
I don't know.

761
00:48:01,230 --> 00:48:02,190
I don't.

762
00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:04,210
And galvanized.

763
00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:06,910
I've been led, wasn't called out in that ordinance.

764
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:08,150
It is called evidence.

765
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:11,470
Yeah, I'm not in the copy of that.

766
00:48:11,970 --> 00:48:14,570
And Galvanized because it contains letter?

767
00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:17,210
Just determine whether it's Galvanized in lead.

768
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:21,810
But Galvanized said in the ordinance copied on our ed, and replaced.

769
00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:26,470
It's Galvanized requiring replacement is the way that it reads.

770
00:48:26,690 --> 00:48:28,790
But when it says, it's not the replace of it's Galvanized.

771
00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:29,850
It's whether it's lead.

772
00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:32,510
If it's lead, it will lead to be replaced.

773
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:36,370
So Galvanized doesn't need to be replaced because it's Galvanized.

774
00:48:36,370 --> 00:48:38,650
You're saying galvanized means if it's

775
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:43,570
problem galvanized and it's really worth it. Right. Thank you. Thank you.

776
00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:50,270
That's my note

777
00:48:51,870 --> 00:49:01,710
And I wonder I know or I believe that my sewer line is shared with other property and I wonder what's going to happen in those instances

778
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:12,750
Also, I know other homeowners that have purchased in the in the borough or anywhere that have had issues

779
00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:22,570
I believe requirement of the mortgage was to get homeowners insurance that may or may not cover damage to a month into your ownership.

780
00:49:22,930 --> 00:49:27,050
Again, it's not putting the full burden of costs on you replacing it.

781
00:49:27,330 --> 00:49:35,230
If it's deemed needs to be replaced, that's again a cost being put on the homeowner that might be covered by insurance.

782
00:49:38,090 --> 00:49:43,950
The other thing I did want to point out is, I know at least four people and my two blocker he is in Madison.

783
00:49:45,450 --> 00:49:51,090
who sold in the world, lived in the world, and then purchased a residence in the world.

784
00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:53,910
This is now putting a tax.

785
00:49:54,770 --> 00:50:00,090
First, it's a get out of amber tax for selling your house.

786
00:50:00,830 --> 00:50:08,090
And secondly, it could put on tax on your both ways, because normally that's not a requirement

787
00:50:08,090 --> 00:50:11,190
It's something that made you negotiate with the violence.

788
00:50:15,170 --> 00:50:17,650
So, in conclusion, I think it's an undue burden,

789
00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:20,070
but to tax on the sellers of property,

790
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:22,350
they could be handled with different fondant.

791
00:50:23,410 --> 00:50:24,430
Thank you for your comments.

792
00:50:25,310 --> 00:50:26,390
And enough for to speed this up,

793
00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:29,290
I'm going to just ask whoever has comments on the,

794
00:50:29,290 --> 00:50:30,830
the sewer ladder on backflow.

795
00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:32,350
If you want to just create a line at the microphone,

796
00:50:32,590 --> 00:50:34,110
so I don't have to call on you individually.

797
00:50:35,870 --> 00:50:35,910
So,

798
00:50:40,610 --> 00:50:43,390
of a V-9 that won't re-o-8 gross marry Avenue.

799
00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:45,210
And I just want to make a comment.

800
00:50:45,830 --> 00:50:48,250
And I think Nancy brought up was a good point.

801
00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:50,330
If it's that dire situation,

802
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:52,510
I don't know how many homes are in the envelope.

803
00:50:52,810 --> 00:50:54,110
Does anybody know?

804
00:50:54,490 --> 00:50:59,170
So, I'm 855, 555, 555, 555, 555, 555.

805
00:50:59,170 --> 00:51:03,130
And through our multiple listing service last 360 days,

806
00:51:03,150 --> 00:51:04,850
there might be more sales private.

807
00:51:05,010 --> 00:51:08,330
But we've had 74 sales in the last year.

808
00:51:08,330 --> 00:51:15,530
So, I think you were bringing on it, it's a dire situation that may not solid people.

809
00:51:15,730 --> 00:51:16,270
You've got seven.

810
00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:20,630
Some of them might have been people that bought it, improved it and sold it.

811
00:51:20,650 --> 00:51:23,110
So they might have been double properties.

812
00:51:23,310 --> 00:51:26,590
So there's not that many sales in the endway.

813
00:51:27,590 --> 00:51:29,390
Just, you know, we put it in perspective.

814
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:30,810
There's 5,000 sales.

815
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:36,010
And 74 sales, 5000 houses in 74 sales.

816
00:51:36,010 --> 00:51:43,130
I don't know that that solves the problem, that is one thing I want to say that from simply a key piece,

817
00:51:43,610 --> 00:51:46,630
you always have to show them that you're doing things to a group.

818
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:50,810
Even if it's just, even if it's going to turn out to be a small one,

819
00:51:51,110 --> 00:51:53,970
you always have to be showing that you're continually including I and I.

820
00:51:54,430 --> 00:51:55,450
Even if it's a little bit.

821
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:58,530
So that's the virus perspective to handle that.

822
00:51:59,290 --> 00:51:59,770
Yeah?

823
00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:06,690
The other one was, I'm not sure, I think the comment was made that it wouldn't hold up

824
00:52:06,690 --> 00:52:11,750
settlement, but I don't know how that would happen to be a realistic situation.

825
00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:17,930
So if you had a $10,000 problem and you have a buyer and a seller, the seller doesn't want

826
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:22,650
to pay for it, and a buyer doesn't want to pay for it, then what happens in that situation?

827
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:28,370
The obligation transfers to the cellar, but then the cellar is already in.

828
00:52:28,510 --> 00:52:29,530
But the cellar doesn't happen.

829
00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:30,790
And we can't require escrow.

830
00:52:31,050 --> 00:52:33,330
So the cellar might tell us to go stroke.

831
00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:36,710
And we have to deal with that in the side, whether we want to do something about it.

832
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:38,650
Yeah, because the real situation doesn't really,

833
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:42,670
or we present the facts to the cellar when we list it.

834
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:43,830
So that's going to come up.

835
00:52:44,010 --> 00:52:45,030
We bring that up.

836
00:52:45,250 --> 00:52:49,310
So it's already thought about in order to go to creations.

837
00:52:49,850 --> 00:52:56,310
But I could tell you, I don't know if a buyer or seller don't agree, you can't have a sale.

838
00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:59,810
So you can't, and we'll hold on to a sale.

839
00:53:00,370 --> 00:53:04,350
No, I mean, we can't, if that circumstance holds up a sale, I don't know about that.

840
00:53:04,410 --> 00:53:07,570
We cannot say, we cannot say, you may not go to a sale.

841
00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:08,990
That's what you fix these things.

842
00:53:09,310 --> 00:53:09,530
Right.

843
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:12,330
Somebody has to be fixed in order to convey it.

844
00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:13,810
We did the subsequent year.

845
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:15,730
That's the extra.

846
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:21,710
But if there's more, if not, if not, if we have a person, we're going to be able to work it up and we won't accept that.

847
00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:23,230
There's a problem with the sewer.

848
00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:27,590
The sewer, the sewer, which comes in a way to hear these, these are registered by the thousands,

849
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:28,670
and they work.

850
00:53:29,410 --> 00:53:32,110
Nobody is coming back saying this problem is this.

851
00:53:32,730 --> 00:53:35,530
We're not placing so many trail here.

852
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:38,360
What is the other one's?

853
00:53:38,910 --> 00:53:40,370
It's called the government.

854
00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:43,630
Okay, we're gonna take comment from the people that are up here.

855
00:53:44,110 --> 00:53:47,550
Now, I just wanted to bring that up because of the fire and salary.

856
00:53:47,950 --> 00:53:49,690
You know, we come up that they could blow up.

857
00:53:49,690 --> 00:53:54,810
If it happened, you know, the normal, I guess, one of the possibilities would be the bar

858
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:56,890
turn around and said, you're into trading.

859
00:53:57,290 --> 00:53:58,410
You have a serious problem here.

860
00:53:58,810 --> 00:54:00,630
We go out and we take up the front lawn.

861
00:54:00,970 --> 00:54:01,830
You know, that's the legal.

862
00:54:01,970 --> 00:54:03,430
We fix it and we lean on property.

863
00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:07,830
That's what happens with carbon sidewalk when we, you know, do any

864
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:09,130
street restorations.

865
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:10,610
People don't want to do it.

866
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:11,750
They don't have the money to do it.

867
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:12,790
and we end up leading properties.

868
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:16,070
We don't want to play back to 100 homes in town

869
00:54:16,070 --> 00:54:16,930
and we end up property.

870
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,660
We're having this, there's more clarity

871
00:54:28,660 --> 00:54:29,980
with the discussion, right?

872
00:54:30,260 --> 00:54:34,100
So I guess our request is a lot of these questions

873
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,160
that you guys are answering.

874
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:37,320
And of course, that information put in the order

875
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,160
and it's like, you know, cost for the inspection

876
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,040
of the backflow and the type of pipe.

877
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:45,480
I guess another request is, you know,

878
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:46,940
it says at the top of the ordinance

879
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:48,300
that this is about public safety.

880
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:52,980
So, you know, stories about folks that moved into their homes and had

881
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:56,420
unnie, unnie just to pay your cost.

882
00:54:57,180 --> 00:55:00,640
I mean, I feel for you as a person, but that's not a public seat in the issue.

883
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:04,680
Well, Rosso, you know, my kitchen sink was a little bit of a public safety issue.

884
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,260
Yeah, well, and also what was happening.

885
00:55:09,460 --> 00:55:14,260
Okay, we're taking comments from the people that are at the podium, please.

886
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:16,500
So,

887
00:55:18,730 --> 00:55:22,870
to back around to the public safety issue, right, so, understand the water over

888
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:24,290
your juice, right, when they're training.

889
00:55:26,270 --> 00:55:28,170
So, there's a stick in the carrot, right?

890
00:55:28,410 --> 00:55:29,470
So, that has,

891
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,400
I guess I want to appreciate if there were other methods, look at, like incentivizing

892
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,940
folks getting their lateral-inspected versus, you know, if being a weak-talking

893
00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:49,940
you do the resale, and it's really about, once an inspection is done, the fix is required

894
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:58,840
regardless, right? So it's really about crew and specs for what time. I mean, my personal preference

895
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,820
right is for the borough to handle the borough issues and not all play that responsibility

896
00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:08,880
We're going to be as much as possible, and that's all.

897
00:56:09,860 --> 00:56:10,500
Thank you.

898
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,960
Any resident you call the barrel, water company, and asked for us to go out, and verify

899
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,980
whether or not they have a back vote for better, and so we'll tell us whether or not we think

900
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:23,480
their line is led, and you're not even selling it, and we'll do that for you.

901
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,380
We need to get this data.

902
00:56:26,540 --> 00:56:28,140
So you don't need to wait till a point of sale.

903
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:30,620
We come out and help you find a week.

904
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,240
No other water company does that.

905
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:33,120
We are very

906
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,360
How's your friends?

907
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,360
I use that service.

908
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:35,860
We are.

909
00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:36,300
I got so.

910
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,240
I got my meal.

911
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,780
There's no money grabbing.

912
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,440
We are here to help you.

913
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,380
And to keep our lives.

914
00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:42,100
It's a lot.

915
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,080
It's a lot.

916
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,480
I don't understand.

917
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,820
I'm not a transfer of a part of a part of our lives.

918
00:56:47,540 --> 00:56:49,300
Can we keep the chatter down?

919
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:49,640
Everybody?

920
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:51,240
It was always another responsibility.

921
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,880
It's just a tiny issue.

922
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,500
And I guess the whole point of humbling with the sale, right?

923
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,300
It seemed like an opportune time.

924
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:06,720
Because there's so much money on the table that the obligation is the obligation and I guess, you know, this ordinance is long.

925
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:16,420
We're talking about out having a permit, I can bring up other topics, but the permit of occupancy, place over, right, which is just, again, additional requirements don't exist today.

926
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:26,900
And there's no data to show that it is our whole inspection at time of sale, we'll get us wherever we need to go, be for the, for the hospital over.

927
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:31,560
Thank you for your comments.

928
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Hello.

929
00:57:33,220 --> 00:57:33,360
Hi.

930
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,560
Thanks Rachel again.

931
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,720
I live here in the borough.

932
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,600
Can you state your address, please?

933
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:39,480
Thank you.

934
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,480
So I know we're not asking questions.

935
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,880
So I wonder a couple of things.

936
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:53,980
I wonder if we have a warning that's led that's in terms to be led.

937
00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:57,500
Does the insurance that we pay for if we chose

938
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:00,620
and chose to pay for it. Does that cover your replacement?

939
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:01,900
No, that's not.

940
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,660
In which case, that's a problem.

941
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,580
And then the other thing I wonder is, it says,

942
00:58:06,940 --> 00:58:09,080
under 11, that's two of three.

943
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:12,780
And that's a clean out, then is kept and not damaged.

944
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,340
That's the same thing that you'll have to play out,

945
00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:17,220
and some of the turn of the century homes

946
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:18,620
probably don't even have them.

947
00:58:19,180 --> 00:58:22,340
I do feel that, in my experience,

948
00:58:22,460 --> 00:58:25,160
since I got my real estate license in 1989,

949
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:32,020
and I've been selling in many municipalities for many years that this is overreaching.

950
00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:35,900
And I don't think it's purposeful.

951
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,500
I think there must be a real stormwater problem that I was unaware of.

952
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:43,740
So now I'll have to become more involved and try to help in that,

953
00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:45,640
because we need to address that.

954
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,300
But I don't think this is the method to address it.

955
00:58:48,620 --> 00:58:50,260
I think that if I compare,

956
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:57,310
Resale certificates and applications, and I'm sure other realtors here have a lot of experience and more than I do

957
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:05,560
In different ways of palies that this to me is a rarity and it seems like overreaching and I live in this town

958
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,630
Love this town because it's the opposite. It's a small little town

959
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:15,750
Nothing like most of those towns that require get a jump through hoost

960
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:23,990
It's a lot of poor people, blue-collar people, old people, people that don't have the kind of funds to do all this.

961
00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:29,870
So I'm not in favor of the whole ordinance means to give you work in my pocket.

962
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:43,490
My name is Frank Dunsmark. I live in four of them in South Main Street, and I have a person who knows me, called her many times.

963
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:47,430
I have the importance of distinction of being at the end of South Main Street.

964
00:59:48,690 --> 00:59:58,810
When we get quite a bit of water now, I think it's I agree with some of the provisions in this particular ordinance, but there's some definitely very much against it.

965
00:59:58,810 --> 00:59:59,010
So let's do this.

966
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:20,920
When we first moved in, I think there are a lot of these issues can be solved by having a home inspection, which is what I think 90% of us probably did before we moved in the house.

967
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,100
And the guys that probably can't much do this for the next 30 years.

968
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:31,740
But I too have excavated many, many sewer wells.

969
01:00:32,340 --> 01:00:36,000
I am a former archaeologist of the park archaeologist for 35 years.

970
01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:40,400
And I have actually still seen wooden drains and stuff like that.

971
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,140
They're wooden pipes.

972
01:00:43,420 --> 01:00:45,080
That's, that's, it took a moment.

973
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,580
But the marine is correct.

974
01:00:48,580 --> 01:00:56,340
It's very a common one lately, unless it's actually been some sort of jury right here or something along those lines.

975
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:07,940
I think there's two separate issues that's going on here. I think the one is, I know you want to deal with the issue of checking out laterals, which I'm a little iffy.

976
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:13,060
I have to think your bigger issue is dealing with the quality of water because I have

977
01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:17,960
been down the street when you've got so much stormwater coming out that it moves you

978
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,320
are.

979
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,500
Manhole waves off the drain.

980
01:01:23,220 --> 01:01:26,020
You're tailing the 800 square mile watershed.

981
01:01:26,660 --> 01:01:30,740
I'm a little less worried about Philadelphia because I've actually stood on that railroad

982
01:01:30,740 --> 01:01:33,860
bridge down there and seen water coming from Philadelphia.

983
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,820
That's because water Philadelphia has a combined stormwater.

984
01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:42,320
and it goes right underneath that bridge and that's one of the reasons why I don't

985
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,500
go so I want to show up about fighting about that two-foot range because I kind of

986
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:52,020
restrict some of the stuff that's come at that time. So it really is a truly

987
01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:55,960
street when it comes to what's happened down the wall of the street. I think ultimately

988
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:00,700
you're going to have to look at a more... I think they're going to have to look at

989
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:03,060
expansion of the water system,

990
01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:08,360
but yeah, I think that I think that the word or each, I think

991
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,560
it's kind of appropriate here in a lot of ways.

992
01:02:12,580 --> 01:02:14,600
So, as I think that there's some provision

993
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,580
in there are very, I don't have a problem putting out letters on the house. I think that's

994
01:02:19,580 --> 01:02:24,000
a very good thing whenever we get cops down in our area, the first thing that asks us to do

995
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,600
taxes. Because they don't know.

996
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,640
And let's not find it on. Exactly. And they think a lot of the things that it

997
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,280
stops at the was a kind of creek or whatever it was called down.

998
01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:39,120
That's right. And so they think.

999
01:02:39,860 --> 01:02:42,440
So yeah, it's always interesting when you get police down in the

1000
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,540
area, you have a call for the disturbance.

1001
01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:47,720
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you.

1002
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,100
Thank you. Thank you for your service.

1003
01:02:49,860 --> 01:02:50,680
Thank you. Thank you for your comments.

1004
01:02:51,820 --> 01:03:19,320
I'm my name is John Luskin. I'm the one of the three 40s father out of here, 42 year bird resident, 45 year master former in the barrel. I've seen some minutes from both ways. I think the district now, the situation with the backflow, the backflow has always been required on sale of property in the iron ore replacement of the water surface, which we do all the time, and galvanized replacement.

1005
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,620
And it's going to be rude out of that correct because we've galvanized it and actually

1006
01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:28,580
a IPC approved with dirt we use sewer inspection.

1007
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:34,600
That's the big fly in the oil mirror wherever you want to call it.

1008
01:03:34,660 --> 01:03:35,820
I've been doing this a long time.

1009
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,100
I've been cleaning it through since 1975 when we were cleaning the sewer.

1010
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,050
I think we did good job.

1011
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,660
And I look at some of these sewer analyses that my son has their generation.

1012
01:03:46,660 --> 01:03:53,820
Mr. Conrad, our family, can we clean a sewer nowadays in the sewer go down and all the

1013
01:03:53,820 --> 01:03:58,660
water goes down, you flush the quilts and the house and you may never go up the door.

1014
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,380
Put it down and that's right.

1015
01:04:01,580 --> 01:04:02,620
You see what looks like.

1016
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,140
And a hundred-year-old, you also imagine an afternoon or fell on after the war.

1017
01:04:07,820 --> 01:04:09,080
You would have to know.

1018
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,760
Not only do we have the sewer that don't have problems with infiltration or influence,

1019
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:31,200
But we just have so much to tell the front that at our own said that you said, you buy a house for $850,000, and you, you know, we've had house inspections for how many years for the things that you can see.

1020
01:04:31,780 --> 01:04:47,960
Soars you can't see until we've come up with this technology that we can expect, so we can't have the real owners in this room that we can't have them that object this, can't have them that we can expect, so we're able to work when they represent the fire.

1021
01:04:48,860 --> 01:04:56,100
I don't know. I think it should be done. We're going to have a real state that we,

1022
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:03,240
the value of the real state in this town, the things of most of the houses in this town.

1023
01:05:04,060 --> 01:05:09,100
And the conditions that I see in the last three, five years, because I'm still far away,

1024
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:17,540
that we would see how bad a sewer line can be before all of a sudden it breaks and then you're big in it up.

1025
01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:19,960
In 2015, $20,000.

1026
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:29,400
And some of you sewer, more of you companies, trust me, you're better off putting a riot on your homework

1027
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,140
that you want to policy the cover at.

1028
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:33,200
We just did a job.

1029
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,580
It's actually Cedar Road, upper double capture,

1030
01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:39,520
Fox County were somewhere this week near Rooster Band.

1031
01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:41,060
We'll see you find the pain out.

1032
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:42,220
We'll replace your whole store.

1033
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,300
They have more of a buck up one by.

1034
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,100
They still not be very profitable.

1035
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:51,500
So I see it from both sides.

1036
01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:53,300
And like I said, a lie is moving.

1037
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,080
I'm not trying to pull it to anybody.

1038
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,120
That's how it is.

1039
01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:58,980
Thank you.

1040
01:05:59,240 --> 01:05:59,700
Thank you.

1041
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,660
Thank you.

1042
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,280
I also just kind of business orders.

1043
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,800
So she invited, I think he's a business over,

1044
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,300
he thought a resident of the trains

1045
01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:12,820
for our plumbing heating cooling contractors,

1046
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:17,480
technicians, all in inspecting sewers in the course

1047
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,560
that we have, that we've been planning to be accepted

1048
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,440
to come and see through, so that he knows what to expect.

1049
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,280
And this little kind of slotted, getting back

1050
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,860
to the EPA thing, when we first started

1051
01:06:30,860 --> 01:06:35,960
this work we've done. Bell work counting stored in the biggest thing. The whole

1052
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:42,380
count you've got work counting requires inspections of their servers because they

1053
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:48,120
were getting fines so much from the EPA for the overflow. I don't know if we've reached

1054
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:53,340
the point. We did and we did the videoing of the means which kind of have to

1055
01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:54,920
they went more.

1056
01:06:55,460 --> 01:07:00,220
So besides all the money that the farmer has to spend

1057
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,880
treating one curve of the water.

1058
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,280
And it's not like, boss, the one where you're trying to

1059
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,700
down with great people, that's the function of your

1060
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:09,040
sewer.

1061
01:07:09,580 --> 01:07:11,640
There's all kinds of stuff to get involved.

1062
01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:14,900
And it's even worse because in Pennsylvania,

1063
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,520
you don't have to be a master of plumbers.

1064
01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:17,920
You're probably down with these.

1065
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:19,380
So that's the one of those words.

1066
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:26,900
So I will pass this to everybody who is good for everybody because you don't want to buy a house.

1067
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,520
We have to just have to trust them.

1068
01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:29,400
We see all of them.

1069
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:30,800
Thank you.

1070
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:31,220
Thank you.

1071
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:32,580
We don't want to say anything.

1072
01:07:33,220 --> 01:07:34,280
We're not going to hear anything.

1073
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:35,440
I think this is something.

1074
01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:35,800
I know that.

1075
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,340
This is something.

1076
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:37,580
I'm sorry.

1077
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:38,720
You're an ambulance.

1078
01:07:39,180 --> 01:07:39,320
I'm sorry.

1079
01:07:39,580 --> 01:07:39,980
You're an ambulance.

1080
01:07:39,980 --> 01:07:40,120
You're an ambulance.

1081
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,360
You're an ambulance.

1082
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:44,400
You're an ambulance.

1083
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,980
But again, the public security, we just worked with the usability to find out what they

1084
01:07:49,980 --> 01:07:56,180
want to train so that when the ordinance comes into effect, or what it's on the same

1085
01:07:56,180 --> 01:08:03,500
page, I will say I have sat with many municipalities and I really do grasp of the situation

1086
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:12,320
to ask you to really get it and knowing this appality at all as instituted this without the

1087
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:20,520
So at the end of the day, whatever you do, you have to go back to DEP and say, this is

1088
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,240
that we're taking.

1089
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,080
So you have to do something.

1090
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,860
And if you were DEP, you're just hitting something in Pennsylvania now.

1091
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:33,040
If you're in the Sustra hand of Worship, you've dealt with this 15 years ago.

1092
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,620
And you know, I appreciate it.

1093
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,200
Oh, I think it's 10 years ago.

1094
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:39,200
Delaware River doesn't have many credits.

1095
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,260
So now we're dealing with it now.

1096
01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:49,260
Thank you. I'm very pleased to know that when who is our coding force in an officer and as we will know him, he can be there tonight.

1097
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,840
He is in the taking that class.

1098
01:08:50,900 --> 01:08:54,720
Yes, he is a little lost room. I'm going to actually take him up there.

1099
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:56,320
Thank you. Thank you.

1100
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,160
Thank you.

1101
01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:02,410
Sorry, Avenue.

1102
01:09:03,070 --> 01:09:06,470
Just a couple of questions that I'll turn into a comment.

1103
01:09:07,710 --> 01:09:14,090
Regarding the statement B, where the talk is certified when doing the scope.

1104
01:09:14,090 --> 01:09:20,090
It states that the clean-out event is kept in not damaged, most of these older homes don't have a clean-out event,

1105
01:09:20,250 --> 01:09:25,050
so I'd like a little elaboration on if you do cast this in a current state.

1106
01:09:25,470 --> 01:09:26,110
Like, what does that mean?

1107
01:09:26,110 --> 01:09:26,890
What does that look like?

1108
01:09:26,890 --> 01:09:28,310
How will this be accomplished?

1109
01:09:29,410 --> 01:09:32,510
If one of the things is in order to install one, you know,

1110
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:37,570
the question I had, another point that John kind of touched on,

1111
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:42,090
I'm not an expert on the insurance industry by any state,

1112
01:09:42,090 --> 01:09:44,910
state, but my understanding is that if you do get these

1113
01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:49,690
sewer lateral insurance programs, that they do not assist you

1114
01:09:49,690 --> 01:09:53,370
if you find something that needs to be taken care of as a result of an inspection.

1115
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:55,430
It's only as a result of failure.

1116
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:58,510
So that's something that we should really look into that at the end of the show

1117
01:09:58,510 --> 01:10:00,790
if anyone understands that.

1118
01:10:01,490 --> 01:10:03,930
And lastly, I also want to thank Aaron for the context.

1119
01:10:04,190 --> 01:10:07,210
Like there were way more context about why this is being discussed

1120
01:10:07,210 --> 01:10:10,070
to note than I've heard thus far, so I appreciate that.

1121
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:15,550
And I do know that some of you have required the sewer spill as part of their unit help.

1122
01:10:16,690 --> 01:10:20,270
I learned recently that Bristol apparently had to change less out here because I had

1123
01:10:20,270 --> 01:10:24,910
been came from Bristol before coming to the end where Bristol had extremely own our

1124
01:10:24,910 --> 01:10:28,910
institution occupancy for quite a few years ago, really over the top.

1125
01:10:29,770 --> 01:10:33,750
So the point where I did impact the real estate market component, what I do business in town,

1126
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:37,130
And the end of being a verse, and the entire ordinance,

1127
01:10:37,130 --> 01:10:40,130
let's just do a little, so, was a verse.

1128
01:10:40,370 --> 01:10:42,730
And they had to keep that place behind the scenes.

1129
01:10:43,330 --> 01:10:45,410
So, I don't know what sounds like maybe, and what

1130
01:10:45,410 --> 01:10:47,730
we're going to get to that point, based on what we've done tonight.

1131
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:51,270
And then this point, is it going to be an opposite?

1132
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:53,130
That's not going to be a little, I don't know.

1133
01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:54,650
I'm just a little clarification.

1134
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:56,050
I'm not going to do this at this house.

1135
01:10:56,350 --> 01:10:57,630
I think many doctors didn't know it.

1136
01:10:57,730 --> 01:10:58,790
That makes sense.

1137
01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:59,410
Thank you, Hansen.

1138
01:10:59,410 --> 01:11:00,090
But

1139
01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:05,330
Jason is proud of me,

1140
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:11,660
people like me, and I see one of my real good friends in here.

1141
01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:13,460
I feel like it's kind of like what this all means.

1142
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:19,980
But listen, I first and foremost, I want to thank you all for the work.

1143
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,740
You feel it's not easy, obviously.

1144
01:11:21,940 --> 01:11:23,360
We have a lot of opinions in the firm.

1145
01:11:23,980 --> 01:11:27,960
I do want to understand the general and the more piece of infrastructure is all.

1146
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:29,500
It just is.

1147
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,120
And fights are doing the fail in some point.

1148
01:11:32,180 --> 01:11:34,400
I think a lot of me is counting to be dealing with that.

1149
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,920
I don't, with that being a manager in our check-in-town area, where

1150
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,620
cell panels kind of the first one to take that lead into the sewer

1151
01:11:42,620 --> 01:11:45,620
laddles mix, and we wrote the names about it.

1152
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:51,800
Like it, my main concern is, number one, what do we do with it?

1153
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:57,860
Okay, so it's been said, you have 75, roughly 75 sales, and I don't know if that gets

1154
01:11:57,860 --> 01:12:04,440
job, and yet may keep the EPA and the EPA and the EPA, but it's actually a solid condition.

1155
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:05,100
Right?

1156
01:12:05,220 --> 01:12:12,040
So I feel like you do need to think about how we address it for all in the EPA and the residents

1157
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,240
of the world some kind of option to address it, whether that's expanding.

1158
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,940
The service doing a point of sale, inspection, I think the residents should have that option

1159
01:12:21,940 --> 01:12:23,140
to do it.

1160
01:12:23,140 --> 01:12:30,360
My biggest concern is I was going to wait to speak until we got done tonight on all of the topics.

1161
01:12:30,940 --> 01:12:37,320
But my main concern being the professor that I am dealing with is every single day throughout the entire region,

1162
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:44,080
is that it can be incredibly punitive to a seller who are willing to transact and take place.

1163
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:51,120
If someone the seller is burdened with the cost of blincers, you know, not to shut

1164
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,580
bed late on Norris, Norris Campboro, but Elson has kind of worked in the civil crystal.

1165
01:12:56,300 --> 01:13:01,100
As a usual reason, we know that they're really, really talking to me as a child.

1166
01:13:02,180 --> 01:13:06,960
And doing transactions into some of those new disabilities, you're talking about a seller

1167
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,800
showing out $4,000 on top of a home inspection that they

1168
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,480
mean to show out money for.

1169
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,720
It makes me incredibly difficult to get back to the finish line.

1170
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:22,560
And if you talk to me about 75 sales in general, making it to the finish line,

1171
01:13:22,820 --> 01:13:27,600
think about how many of those 75 of the next, if we're talking about that kind of cost

1172
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,280
when comes the sidewalks, electrical panels, sewer levels.

1173
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:38,560
I think to take that on, for once, would be incredibly damaging to the bottom of your book.

1174
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,200
So, anyway, just, I just want to say that, I understand what needs to be done.

1175
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,000
I don't deny that. I understand that.

1176
01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:49,080
Everything you're saying here, I trust what you're saying.

1177
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,300
I just think how we go about it.

1178
01:13:51,540 --> 01:13:58,140
You may want to take a very conservative manner and not question much too far too soon.

1179
01:13:58,380 --> 01:14:00,840
And put that on.

1180
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:01,520
Thank you.

1181
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,840
Thank you.

1182
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:07,560
Mike, there's a question I'll give you more about the clean up, and she is correct about

1183
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,500
a lot of animals that does not have house like clean up.

1184
01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:16,620
Most of the houses in the bird, though you can cut a hole in the sewer plate, then the

1185
01:14:16,620 --> 01:14:18,840
basement enters a proper flavor of the plant.

1186
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,500
It would go over that to tell them the bare plant, but if you met just one clean up

1187
01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:27,060
in the sewer, you can also go through a function with one wood and one wood and put

1188
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:32,400
And they have to be there that requires some time and we'll make one work, which will cost for us.

1189
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,160
Thank you.

1190
01:14:36,340 --> 01:14:37,840
Yeah, thank you.

1191
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:38,660
I have a question.

1192
01:14:39,260 --> 01:14:40,040
Excuse me.

1193
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:41,260
Excuse me.

1194
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,460
I have a word here.

1195
01:14:43,700 --> 01:14:44,120
I'm not agree.

1196
01:14:44,420 --> 01:14:45,560
We're not having a conversation.

1197
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:47,060
I'm almost ourselves here.

1198
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,200
I mean, anything.

1199
01:14:48,940 --> 01:14:49,140
Yeah.

1200
01:14:49,340 --> 01:14:49,540
No.

1201
01:14:50,060 --> 01:14:51,980
What I think we'll need to do is,

1202
01:14:51,980 --> 01:14:55,820
since we are rewarding portions of this,

1203
01:14:55,820 --> 01:14:59,020
we will find out exactly how to rework that portion of it.

1204
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,700
And what other thing I think is a really have to clarify in this sewer section is, what I, if you go get a plumbing code box, the most plumbing code box, which you have, you have a main in the street, you have a lot of old that runs from the sitting that's in the main to the curb on, that's the lot of old, the house that will then is from the lot of old to the curb on.

1205
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:37,200
In thus far, if there's a problem in the street, it's a responsibility of the homeowner

1206
01:15:37,820 --> 01:15:42,320
to dig that up also, including digging the street up, repairing the street, black top

1207
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,480
and street and everything else.

1208
01:15:43,620 --> 01:15:48,240
So I think you need to make sure, for just put in that word in that because the first known,

1209
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,600
I had mentioned this marriage before, first draft,

1210
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:53,600
only said, from the building to the curb.

1211
01:15:54,740 --> 01:15:56,860
But we're responsible to give it to the manager.

1212
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,960
And a lot of our names are in the middle of the street.

1213
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:06,940
Correct. Yes, some of them are on summer or sidewalks or whatever, but you still leave it if it's on the sign on the opposite side of your street like tennis Avenue

1214
01:16:06,940 --> 01:16:12,960
You'd be responsible to dig all the way across tennis Avenue and restore that. Yes, which is

1215
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:18,420
That's when you last went up a 15,000 dollars to a 15,000 dollars

1216
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,820
It sounds like we'll want to clarify that too

1217
01:16:22,820 --> 01:16:26,740
So, you know, just make sure you go all the way to the sewer gate.

1218
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,480
I think our current order is to find your obligation to the main regardless where it is.

1219
01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:32,680
Even worse in the middle.

1220
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:33,960
But a lot of people don't realize that.

1221
01:16:34,180 --> 01:16:36,280
But in the first one, you went up to the current line.

1222
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:36,800
Oh, okay.

1223
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:38,960
I had to hold that decline last week.

1224
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:40,120
You just said so.

1225
01:16:40,700 --> 01:16:41,280
You said to me.

1226
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,200
You said to me.

1227
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:43,300
Go ahead.

1228
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:43,560
Go ahead.

1229
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:43,580
Go ahead.

1230
01:16:45,540 --> 01:16:45,940
Well,

1231
01:16:48,180 --> 01:16:49,300
thank you so much.

1232
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:49,780
Thank you.

1233
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:50,080
Thank you.

1234
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:55,460
I don't know if the users are selling.

1235
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,980
I have a quick question.

1236
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,220
So if say if a house doesn't have the cat, how much does that cost?

1237
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,100
Well, probably we would not be going far too much more.

1238
01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:07,040
It was just an easiest.

1239
01:17:07,260 --> 01:17:10,920
It's just a matter of throwing a hole in the pipe and then putting a clamp plate thing over.

1240
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,080
You get a little bit more involved if you do have to pull it through.

1241
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,700
And to your question, if our company

1242
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,800
if we cost a week for the first of all,

1243
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,160
if there was some kind of initiative

1244
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,600
where we thought through was going to be a week

1245
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,040
or a problem, we would tell you that before we started.

1246
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,020
If we cost a week, as we're doing a job,

1247
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,020
we're going to search for a week.

1248
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,860
And that's where it is, right before we're going to get it out.

1249
01:17:31,860 --> 01:17:34,460
So to put in, just to put in the easy version

1250
01:17:34,460 --> 01:17:36,900
of a clean out in a moment, how's the dozen pound one?

1251
01:17:37,220 --> 01:17:38,520
Are we talking a hundred bucks a thousand?

1252
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,640
The most, at the most.

1253
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:41,140
OK, OK, thank you.

1254
01:17:41,140 --> 01:17:41,400
Thank you.

1255
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:41,500
Thank you.

1256
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:42,440
Thank you.

1257
01:17:44,140 --> 01:17:48,360
For a hundred hours, doing what's there for sewer cleaners, I mean for sewer inspection.

1258
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,500
That's spending a little, you know, spending a little bit of time seeing it, we haven't only

1259
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:54,140
yet, and doing a thorough job.

1260
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,940
Sometimes, we'll just take a camera.

1261
01:17:56,660 --> 01:18:02,460
And that's the other thing about, you know, like some, like some of the municipalities actually

1262
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,940
have their people that are doing this, take these horses like.

1263
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:09,800
What's the other company?

1264
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:16,020
NASCO, and this is why the PACC did our own, there's a company called NASCO, and that's

1265
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:21,640
what's super kind of wood, whatever it is, and they had like a three-day course for this

1266
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:28,760
they cost $1,000 for it, so our PACC did a smaller one, or that surgeon, so that you guys know

1267
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,940
what they're looking at. Because you put that thing in a sewer, and some of the real orders of

1268
01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:35,720
and we looked at, you're like, how are we looking at it?

1269
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,560
We really did not do it.

1270
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,060
What do you mean?

1271
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:41,760
I think low-end infiltration, when somebody made a comment,

1272
01:18:42,540 --> 01:18:46,040
that if you're getting that, that's not really a defect in the sewer,

1273
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:48,200
it really is, that has to be repaired.

1274
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,420
Because you wouldn't be getting the infiltration

1275
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:52,720
if they're lovin' a crack there.

1276
01:18:53,860 --> 01:18:55,000
Or the end of what water will.

1277
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:56,140
Okay.

1278
01:18:56,620 --> 01:18:57,340
Thank you.

1279
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,060
All right, so...

1280
01:19:02,940 --> 01:19:03,960
What is Matthew Chandler?

1281
01:19:04,180 --> 01:19:05,560
What company is one of those services?

1282
01:19:06,740 --> 01:19:08,320
There are 2016 or Main Street and Amher.

1283
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,200
I just wanted to, it will make you sense in their favorite of Cameron's sections.

1284
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,380
Cameron's sessions for me are vital for homeowners.

1285
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:24,020
As someone who spent like the last 10 years as a service owner, I've been out all

1286
01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:28,200
hours of the night, especially with people, they rush through sales, they want to

1287
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,480
be competitive, they, you know, you know, you everything they can to be competitive and

1288
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:36,860
50 other bitters they get in and then a week or two later in the back of can't use anything

1289
01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:42,980
and then I had one time where they had a break under the beginning of the garage in the driveway

1290
01:19:42,980 --> 01:19:48,060
and then a break in the street and pretty separate single but three separate individual breaks.

1291
01:19:48,780 --> 01:19:55,660
That there were signs where me as a plumber I could see marks on the clean out like the previous owner had been

1292
01:19:55,660 --> 01:20:02,340
cabling that long term really camera inspection would have saved these people there and I understand

1293
01:20:02,340 --> 01:20:09,380
that when you are doing these, when you have to do these large things, when you find a break

1294
01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:12,480
or something with a sewer, it can be detrimental to a real estate transaction.

1295
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:18,440
And I get that that, you know, can be a hardship financially on the cellarverse to the

1296
01:20:18,440 --> 01:20:18,700
buyer.

1297
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,520
But there are certain things that you can do to kind of nurse that at home.

1298
01:20:23,940 --> 01:20:27,620
For example, we're talking about camera inspections and infiltration.

1299
01:20:27,620 --> 01:20:35,660
I just did a church in the Norris town, where they got a sinkhole in the street, somebody had done a new proper plumbing repair a year ago,

1300
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:39,880
stuck the PVC to right into the sewer lateral, no connections.

1301
01:20:40,620 --> 01:20:43,340
So the road literally washed away into the street.

1302
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,160
But the church was, it was for sale because they ended money.

1303
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:49,520
But they were selling it to a developer.

1304
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:54,660
So what we did was we actually made a deal with them,

1305
01:20:54,660 --> 01:21:03,180
We ruled the cost of the whole job into the transaction, and we don't need it by the title company, and with that, what we did was we dug down.

1306
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:10,780
We lined the six-inch place, who were all the way to the main, fixed the trap, and then we put the concrete back, and no one was out of pocket.

1307
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,300
So there are certain ways to make it so that it's not going to be entirely detrimental to yourselves.

1308
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:31,120
I also wanted to just add in that around here, I'm one who I saw orange out of last year or the year before but they had four feet of water and then year before that when they got four feet of water.

1309
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:39,300
What is a major problem for us here? What's also major problem is a lack of information on what you're policy learned.

1310
01:21:40,780 --> 01:21:45,860
I spring house all these million dollar houses had four and five feet of water and there

1311
01:21:45,860 --> 01:21:50,180
people were finding out that they only had five thousand dollars in storm coverage.

1312
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,080
Like it wasn't even going to come in carpets in these places.

1313
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:56,060
So I think looking at your insurance policy is going to be mandatory.

1314
01:21:56,460 --> 01:22:00,120
I mean, it's something that you should always know what your coverage is or are.

1315
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:06,600
So if there's a writer for your first storm, the discharge, if you want to bump that up.

1316
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,860
The other thing is service line coverage would not go to these

1317
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:16,440
awkward, does it kind of American wanted, have these in terms of policies

1318
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:21,920
where when you have a break forever, they will send so many out, but a bandaid on it and

1319
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:22,760
that's it.

1320
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:27,080
If you get service line utility coverage to your own owners in terms, I did it for

1321
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,900
some, then, 20 bucks a month and I mean, we just did a sewer for someone

1322
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:35,560
where it was eight foot deep, a hundred feet long and it was a $12,000 job.

1323
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:41,600
He got reimbursed entirely, so I mean, it has to come down to planning a little bit on

1324
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,720
Homer's part, too.

1325
01:22:42,900 --> 01:22:45,980
It's just knowing what you're going to create, too.

1326
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,700
Another thing that I just wanted to touch on is in favor of declarations.

1327
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,120
Sometimes it's going to save you from a very dangerous situation.

1328
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,000
Cross force is kind of a newer thing.

1329
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:03,820
A lot of utility companies are now using underground molds and things to drill under the ground

1330
01:23:03,820 --> 01:23:05,840
blindly so that they don't mess up your grasp.

1331
01:23:06,380 --> 01:23:07,460
But we're seeing it pretty frequently

1332
01:23:07,460 --> 01:23:10,540
where they will send a high pressure gas line

1333
01:23:10,540 --> 01:23:12,660
through your clay sewer pipe.

1334
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:14,320
It's a real thing.

1335
01:23:14,860 --> 01:23:17,440
And the worst thing you could possibly do with that situation

1336
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,240
would be the send a drain snake down there

1337
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:20,140
with a sharp blade.

1338
01:23:20,940 --> 01:23:23,520
We just had a house in, I think, York County,

1339
01:23:23,660 --> 01:23:25,980
explode from one of those.

1340
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,160
You know, I'm a sharp, but it's a thing.

1341
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:29,680
And it gets something that would have been called

1342
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,480
in the cabinet section.

1343
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:35,580
So, to add the last point there, when P and P, you do a P and it wasn't all nowadays.

1344
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:42,560
For utility locations, they ask you if it's for sewer cleaning, instead of an excavation,

1345
01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:43,820
just for that reason.

1346
01:23:44,260 --> 01:23:46,840
And they'll send somebody out much quicker.

1347
01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:47,840
Yeah.

1348
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:55,300
The clean that have a P and 1 call person, make sure that you don't have a crossboard.

1349
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:00,040
Yeah.

1350
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,060
Thank you.

1351
01:24:05,820 --> 01:24:07,020
Thank you.

1352
01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:07,420
Thank you.

1353
01:24:07,780 --> 01:24:08,060
Thank you.

1354
01:24:08,060 --> 01:24:08,180
Thank you, thank you.

1355
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:08,960
Thank you, my dear.

1356
01:24:09,140 --> 01:24:11,920
I wanted to comment about school work after generally.

1357
01:24:13,820 --> 01:24:17,280
There's a program that is a program that is actually called MS4.

1358
01:24:17,820 --> 01:24:22,200
Under that program, the government is requiring local municipalities to do more

1359
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,880
and more countries to support.

1360
01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:29,800
For the last decade, that program has really only been called.

1361
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:36,500
educating the public, early conversations about what you might do in the future, that kind of thing.

1362
01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:38,100
No real-heart spending of money.

1363
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:44,760
We're now rolling into the period of that program where you have to, each municipality in urbanized

1364
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:50,020
area has to prove to them what you're doing, each year you have to spend a certain percentage

1365
01:24:50,020 --> 01:24:55,140
based on a complicated formula, and you have to take these steps to capture the stormwater.

1366
01:24:55,140 --> 01:25:02,960
And anything that you can show that you're doing to capture it, gets you points towards a goal that you have to reach for each year.

1367
01:25:03,340 --> 01:25:05,740
So it's a more accelerated obligation than ever.

1368
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,660
And complicated matters.

1369
01:25:10,060 --> 01:25:14,740
If anybody happened to read about it, few months ago there was a ruling against Westchesterboro.

1370
01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:21,840
Westchesterboro was charging money for stormwater fees to raise fees to address the stormwater capture.

1371
01:25:22,460 --> 01:25:29,780
and the court rule that it was not fee, that it was a tax, and I won't go into all the boring details about the difference between the two.

1372
01:25:30,060 --> 01:25:31,840
But it was a huge setback from Barrow's.

1373
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:39,440
Second place tax is already been given a separate law to allow them to charge it, but through the way that the law is going to adopt it in negotiations.

1374
01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:44,460
Barrow's in first place tax has got to throw it out, but only second place tax has had that.

1375
01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:51,660
So, Barrow's right now, you know, don't have a remedy for those ability to directly charge it,

1376
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:53,880
because it was supposed to be a tax.

1377
01:25:54,060 --> 01:25:56,860
You would have to form even if you form

1378
01:25:56,860 --> 01:25:58,860
a separate authority to charge it.

1379
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:00,780
The court already said it was a tax non-fee.

1380
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:02,460
The authorities can't charge taxes.

1381
01:26:02,660 --> 01:26:03,420
They can only charge fees.

1382
01:26:03,700 --> 01:26:07,840
So right now, everybody's really jammed up at the very meeting point

1383
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,420
of having to meet the MS4 obligations

1384
01:26:09,420 --> 01:26:11,140
and having no funny mechanism,

1385
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:13,600
aside from their normal revenue stream.

1386
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,220
Thanks.

1387
01:26:15,980 --> 01:26:16,460
Thank you.

1388
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:17,000
So it's out.

1389
01:26:17,940 --> 01:26:18,340
I'm sorry.

1390
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:19,560
I want to take an example.

1391
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:26,580
What are we doing to have we exhausted all of the stormwater water management of things that we can do?

1392
01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:28,140
If you could state your name and address.

1393
01:26:28,580 --> 01:26:29,180
Sorry, it's okay.

1394
01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:30,420
You got three or three water.

1395
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,120
I'm still myself in the water already.

1396
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,160
And I think I'm going to jump in.

1397
01:26:34,780 --> 01:26:39,100
Stormwater management is a hundred other meetings.

1398
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,240
So I think we're going to take this one.

1399
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,160
All right.

1400
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,640
Well, did he said that the animals are probably trying to achieve stormwater captures?

1401
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,060
I can only tell you, no, no, everything's been done.

1402
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,580
It's an ongoing plan for you to spend money every year to reward more and more.

1403
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,940
So, no, no, no, everything is yet to be done.

1404
01:26:54,140 --> 01:26:57,080
But yes, we are doing things, maybe we are requiring it every year.

1405
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:58,960
What is the required?

1406
01:26:59,860 --> 01:27:05,680
Whether there is anything cleaning inlets, we put the forecast in front of CVS, which captures

1407
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,840
those in filters of water, we're planning the second parking lot to go in on a popular street,

1408
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,660
which will collect the water, faces.

1409
01:27:13,060 --> 01:27:15,400
So, we're always doing small projects to meet our basin.

1410
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:22,860
I don't have the acres to put in stormwater capture because I have the specialist mountains on the other side of the space.

1411
01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:27,560
As a borough, we are living in a hole we can do because the shore of knocking down houses.

1412
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,620
What do we've done that to?

1413
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:35,020
There's also the Wissick and Watershed Water Quality Improvement Plan actually.

1414
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:44,920
Yeah, so that's a multi-menace of palliative effort where upstream where they actually have acres and have space to control the volume and slow down the water

1415
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,040
and let it infiltrate.

1416
01:27:46,300 --> 01:27:49,740
They're putting more money shared money into stuff upstream

1417
01:27:49,740 --> 01:27:51,540
where they, you know, honestly,

1418
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,000
and we don't have much space to do stuff.

1419
01:27:54,460 --> 01:27:57,000
We are doing a lot and we can talk about that another time,

1420
01:27:57,860 --> 01:28:00,480
but basically, we're going at approaching it more

1421
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:03,860
from a watershed perspective versus each municipality

1422
01:28:03,860 --> 01:28:05,700
because we are, you know,

1423
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,660
watersheds don't care about political boundaries.

1424
01:28:08,420 --> 01:28:10,780
So we are trying to do everything we can,

1425
01:28:10,940 --> 01:28:12,920
but that's for another, it's a lot.

1426
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:27,920
So I have one more question, I'm sorry, all right so we all I think get and now I think it's better understood that a lot of these there some of these

1427
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:37,920
You know these issues that we're talking about now are you know, we've got the requirements we've got to meet them. We've got to continue to you know show progress. I'm in for all of that. I understand it.

1428
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:47,260
If we don't do it at the time of sale, what does that look like for us and for the borough?

1429
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:59,680
Are we now hiring additional borough staff, which is going to cost the borough money, to send people out or third party, to send people out knock on doors, deal with no unloading the men, right?

1430
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:06,180
As you know, you have to turn the water off to get in to get this, and we know that's going to be any enormous challenge.

1431
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:35,160
So, what kind of cost are we looking at to the borough if we were to go, forget this, forget about the time of South, forget the ordinance, but we still have to meet these requirements, and now we're going to have to hire staff, we're going to have to come up with some sort of, I like the idea of an incentive, maybe there are people out there that will volunteer, I think it's a small percentage, but I think some people would, if there was education with it, what do we look at out there?

1432
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:40,820
I mean I think that we're looking at a much higher cost to the entire burrow, every resident

1433
01:29:40,820 --> 01:29:50,800
in the burrow than here is my fear, right, and that's all going to have to be passed

1434
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:55,060
on to the taxpayers because we've all just seen, we've all just been through the budget,

1435
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,980
self-reflection is with the same.

1436
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:10,200
I think the number is higher than that, and are with other water customers that will have to show this number in this county. There's not just handbook.

1437
01:30:10,540 --> 01:30:12,440
So you're going to pick a hundred of this in a year.

1438
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:19,420
We're going to pick a hundred or five years for you to collect that data. When is the requirement going to be like this?

1439
01:30:19,700 --> 01:30:28,460
Well, if I go one, let's say I'm in Mayward Park. They were all built around the same time. If I get in three houses over there, I can very comfortably say,

1440
01:30:28,460 --> 01:30:30,400
Most likely, there's not led in there.

1441
01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:32,140
There are also two things going analysis.

1442
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,500
That's not a actual account for the state.

1443
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:35,900
The very same thing that right now.

1444
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,860
That's why we're trying to do what we're going to accept.

1445
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:39,760
Before we're going to do a requirement,

1446
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:41,060
and you get some more stringent,

1447
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,720
and then you go into your house.

1448
01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:44,320
All right.

1449
01:30:44,460 --> 01:30:46,180
So let's move on to electrical.

1450
01:30:48,220 --> 01:30:51,720
At this point, and I kind of want to kick this off

1451
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,260
with a proposal based on some conversations.

1452
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,880
We had it the last meeting and some conversations

1453
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,920
I've had there at the weeks with different...

1454
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,140
So, as it reads, it's a certified electrical underwriter.

1455
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,180
We'll inspect for compliance with electrical codes.

1456
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:08,900
Last meeting, we discussed...

1457
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,900
Last meeting, we discussed that that would be the panel inspection only.

1458
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,180
The reason being for public safety.

1459
01:31:17,540 --> 01:31:20,980
After some conversation, I think that this might not be...

1460
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,480
This might not result in what we wanted to in terms of public safety.

1461
01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:28,760
So inspecting a panel only is probably not going to prevent house fires.

1462
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:40,780
My suggested change to this since it is a public safety issue would be to get rid of it entirely as written this section and change it to an affidavit for smoke detectors.

1463
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,420
And carbon monoxide.

1464
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:45,940
I would agree with that.

1465
01:31:45,940 --> 01:31:49,460
I think that that is less onerous on the cellar.

1466
01:31:49,460 --> 01:31:53,780
and more likely to actually prevent fires and other issues.

1467
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,460
It's a cellar affidavit that your home has

1468
01:32:00,220 --> 01:32:02,980
up to date, smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors.

1469
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:07,100
There are some neighboring municipalities that have similar requirements.

1470
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:13,500
Ultimately much simpler for the cellar than an electrical panel inspection.

1471
01:32:13,500 --> 01:32:21,530
And let's keep the chatter down. You have no idea how the sound resonates in this room. We cannot hear up here. Thank you.

1472
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:37,140
Well, that will not be in effect. Let's hold off on public comment right now. That's just my proposal and we can we will have some discussion amongst.

1473
01:32:37,140 --> 01:32:41,040
Yeah, that my proposal is to remove the electrical inspection entirely.

1474
01:32:41,380 --> 01:32:46,200
I replace it with an affidavit for carbon monoxide and smoke detectors only, so.

1475
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,740
And now we're going to talk about it up here first.

1476
01:32:48,940 --> 01:32:51,840
Any comments, thoughts, questions from committee?

1477
01:32:52,460 --> 01:32:53,000
I think that.

1478
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:54,680
I think it's a good idea.

1479
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:56,320
Thank you.

1480
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,080
Yeah, I agree. That's what I've read as well.

1481
01:32:58,140 --> 01:32:58,860
Okay, council.

1482
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:05,140
I still think that it should stay in and I think that we should make sure that

1483
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:14,100
electrical equipment is grounded properly and that wires are not spliced or taped.

1484
01:33:14,740 --> 01:33:17,000
I think that electrical needs to be checked.

1485
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:18,960
I don't think that it should be removed.

1486
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,440
I mean, because smoke detectors and carbon monoxide, I mean,

1487
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:33,440
yeah, we don't check to see if there's a problem before then I just think it's important.

1488
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:50,020
My thing on this is that if the reason we're doing this is for public safety, in terms of a whole row of Romans not burning down because one of them has a bad box.

1489
01:33:50,680 --> 01:34:01,960
There are so many other things in every one of our houses could set our house ablaze and in the case of connected homes set the whole block of ablaze.

1490
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:11,020
that I think, I think, with this particular one, the benefit,

1491
01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:13,220
I'm going to say the benefit doesn't that way the less.

1492
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:18,120
But the cost to the homeowner of having this separate

1493
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,780
electrical infection when they may be choosing not to have a home

1494
01:34:21,780 --> 01:34:30,100
inspection is, it's not enough bang for the buck.

1495
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:32,680
There are so many other things that can catch a house on fire.

1496
01:34:33,100 --> 01:34:38,180
It would be more effective in terms of preventing a whole block of

1497
01:34:38,180 --> 01:34:42,080
hormones from burning down to know that they have smoke

1498
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:42,600
detectives.

1499
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,240
You know, and it's free, we're not going into inspect.

1500
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,140
All you have to do is sign an appetite and most municipalities

1501
01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:53,140
will fire this.

1502
01:34:53,700 --> 01:34:56,960
And to back this up a step further, I mean, one of the big

1503
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,200
You have people coming in here, you know, you've been raised in six percent, you're close to

1504
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:06,640
three to thirty thousand dollars, now you're interested in seven percent. People are buying

1505
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:11,760
these homes. So, I don't see them cash, no inspection. So, that was a lot of work to

1506
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:17,480
join us in people. We can both walk our own inspection. Maybe see if there's something

1507
01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:21,460
when we come up there because there are the ones, you know, your families have been in there

1508
01:35:21,460 --> 01:35:24,500
and you care a little more. If you're running it, you're coming in, you're doing

1509
01:35:24,500 --> 01:35:32,080
you're getting the rents, the numbers, getting right now because it's so desirable and they're not fixing anything and I'm happy to tell you.

1510
01:35:32,540 --> 01:35:36,160
We can look at the rental and see if we can look at something further there.

1511
01:35:36,540 --> 01:35:37,960
I think that's a fantastic idea.

1512
01:35:38,180 --> 01:35:40,140
I agree with that.

1513
01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:44,980
Yeah, I definitely agree with the affidavit for how is proposal Jen.

1514
01:35:45,340 --> 01:35:46,240
I do hear you.

1515
01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:53,500
I feel like though the electric that we were talking about in here is with such a,

1516
01:35:53,500 --> 01:36:04,260
It was kind of like a quick look at it if you will that I feel like anybody that is any sort of handy man would have kind of noticed those obvious things

1517
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:15,100
So to me that one did feel like a bit of an overreach that I like to use that word up here, but it didn't so I'm fully in favor of taking that out

1518
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:17,700
But I do like the sum of detectors in the carbon monoxide

1519
01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:18,320
That's right.

1520
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,940
Yeah, that seems like an over and over to me.

1521
01:36:19,940 --> 01:36:20,600
I agree.

1522
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,700
Okay, but those, but are these things already in your house to begin with?

1523
01:36:25,540 --> 01:36:26,800
Or are both exactors?

1524
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:27,560
Not necessarily.

1525
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,280
And Jen, you would think in anybody, you know, if somebody has a home inspection that they're

1526
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:38,560
going through all that anyway, I mean, I know where it's the ones that are waving it and that's sort

1527
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,340
of, you know, a challenge.

1528
01:36:41,420 --> 01:36:41,540
Right.

1529
01:36:41,540 --> 01:36:41,600
Right.

1530
01:36:41,780 --> 01:36:42,880
We have so many.

1531
01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:44,900
And also just lying.

1532
01:36:46,620 --> 01:36:56,220
It's a tough balance, too, between fire beware, and public safety, and it's not having your entire neighborhood.

1533
01:36:57,620 --> 01:37:03,300
It's one of the things I think this one is one that I'm willing to agree with.

1534
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,520
I don't think it's fair to call out.

1535
01:37:06,940 --> 01:37:09,920
You can't say, well, if you're in a row home, then you have to do it.

1536
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,620
If you're in a connected home, you don't, but if you're in,

1537
01:37:12,620 --> 01:37:16,580
Well, fire could jump just as easily, whether, I mean not just as easily, but I mean

1538
01:37:16,580 --> 01:37:17,480
a fire could jump.

1539
01:37:17,780 --> 01:37:21,300
It could jump, but it doesn't, I'm in favor of that coming out.

1540
01:37:21,620 --> 01:37:21,980
I'm good.

1541
01:37:23,420 --> 01:37:25,120
Anything else from Castle Island that one?

1542
01:37:26,940 --> 01:37:29,480
Anything from the public on the electrical?

1543
01:37:30,500 --> 01:37:32,700
Yeah, I just want to feel a quick comment.

1544
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,060
Yeah, could you just say your name please?

1545
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,200
Sorry.

1546
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,740
And I had an electrical instruction, it was fine.

1547
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,500
And then three months later, I went to put in

1548
01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:49,760
I had an electrician come out to put in another outlet,

1549
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,100
and the whole electrical system was not because.

1550
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,740
So that's what I'm just thinking at some time,

1551
01:37:58,220 --> 01:38:02,940
the inspectors are a little less good.

1552
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,080
You're right, and it's just right.

1553
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:15,940
It's a piece of paper.

1554
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,880
I have to read the house fire, so I'm really stupid.

1555
01:38:20,660 --> 01:38:22,380
Get into the electrical one.

1556
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:23,740
That's the only one I love.

1557
01:38:23,740 --> 01:38:24,360
You've got a story.

1558
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:25,620
You're going to be some detective.

1559
01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:26,440
You're going to be fine.

1560
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:29,140
I've spoken to that.

1561
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:29,500
I think you should.

1562
01:38:29,900 --> 01:38:30,460
And right on.

1563
01:38:30,460 --> 01:38:34,320
I think yeah, I accept my own comment.

1564
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,360
Thanks for saying, sir, is that it?

1565
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,140
I have a quick comment.

1566
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,840
Matthew, I hear again, 40th of a school street, and with her.

1567
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:45,380
Just a quick comment on, it pretty much encompasses

1568
01:38:45,380 --> 01:38:46,700
this movement, the fact that you're going to like

1569
01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:49,540
to come all of those, as well, and everything else.

1570
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:55,780
Is there, and we could be now putting the viral financial risk

1571
01:38:55,780 --> 01:38:59,680
scenario, like the liability on the barrel now, who you're requiring.

1572
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:05,360
But my concern, as a resident of the barrel, is now that you're going to require

1573
01:39:06,260 --> 01:39:09,320
all some or none of the stuff that you'll have.

1574
01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:14,120
You require some of these things, and something happened is now the barrel

1575
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:20,960
who have risks of litigation or loss, and also along with that, the title

1576
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:25,540
to take the past in 1998, which is for the disclosure, right?

1577
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:34,280
Will the barrel, or could the barrel possibly be at risk for financial liability, say,

1578
01:39:34,440 --> 01:39:37,040
three years down a road, somebody decides, you know what?

1579
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:38,520
I'm going to argue this in court.

1580
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:40,300
And they win.

1581
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:42,260
Like the situation in the other hand.

1582
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,400
It's not sure how to imagine.

1583
01:39:44,380 --> 01:39:45,640
Is it far in the mean now?

1584
01:39:46,260 --> 01:39:48,380
Could it be on the book for a possible class action?

1585
01:39:48,380 --> 01:39:50,940
for the three years of transactions that happen,

1586
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,200
and all those people that have to pay all that money,

1587
01:39:53,420 --> 01:39:55,940
from in-bowards of workments,

1588
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:57,600
so that's my major concern right there.

1589
01:39:58,740 --> 01:40:01,480
I don't, I'm a resident of this world,

1590
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,680
I've lived in this world in my whole entire life,

1591
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,340
I don't want to hear you.

1592
01:40:06,460 --> 01:40:08,600
This is a absolute, and I want you to say,

1593
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:10,640
so absolutely,

1594
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,800
all you're trying to do is trying to do things,

1595
01:40:13,940 --> 01:40:17,680
trying to gain power as a offset,

1596
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,720
that will help, you're just trying to do this though,

1597
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,080
and the premise of public safety,

1598
01:40:23,540 --> 01:40:25,380
clearly I think a lot of people here seem to,

1599
01:40:25,460 --> 01:40:28,060
it's not the public safety, because you are,

1600
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,100
you don't have to be the, you're a social worker.

1601
01:40:30,380 --> 01:40:32,900
So it's not, it's not, I just want to answer your question,

1602
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:35,080
honestly, what I'm not going anything from the D,

1603
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,240
we are meeting our D, we requirements,

1604
01:40:37,740 --> 01:40:38,940
we're drinking water requirements

1605
01:40:38,940 --> 01:40:42,740
that I need to meet, to deliver water to your home.

1606
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,640
These same requirements come because we own a water company,

1607
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,960
We're not like every other town in Montgomery County up or down the lower

1608
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,800
blended with it. They don't know what a company we do. So that's why we have to

1609
01:40:54,800 --> 01:41:00,680
need to agree with it. They can do the deep hey, but they can't do us. We are made to do this.

1610
01:41:00,740 --> 01:41:04,380
You're required, but if you fix it, yes, I'll post the requirements.

1611
01:41:05,180 --> 01:41:06,560
I'll set them to absolutely.

1612
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:09,560
Thank you.

1613
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,300
Thank you.

1614
01:41:19,300 --> 01:41:20,240
I want to make a comment.

1615
01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:26,620
We're talking about safety safety safety safety that we know how about 265 days in

1616
01:41:26,620 --> 01:41:26,960
Europe.

1617
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,940
We're used to safety there in everyday living room.

1618
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:36,540
So, a person who doesn't have time to fail and safety is 365 days in Europe.

1619
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:43,140
So, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish in that point of sale when you really feel

1620
01:41:43,140 --> 01:41:45,440
that there's been real time and real safety.

1621
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:47,480
Thank you for your comment.

1622
01:41:48,180 --> 01:41:49,460
Anything else from the electrical?

1623
01:41:49,980 --> 01:41:50,980
Or move on?

1624
01:41:51,260 --> 01:41:56,320
Very quickly, I think part of what some of the less are struggling with is trying to flesh out what the policy is doing.

1625
01:41:57,740 --> 01:42:01,420
I am certainly in favor of the solicitor of the thing that's better.

1626
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,140
Something that would be required to move, thus, who are putting off doors,

1627
01:42:05,460 --> 01:42:06,740
off the floor, and to our home.

1628
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:08,700
We may be able to talk about that right now.

1629
01:42:10,180 --> 01:42:12,360
I think something that we need to consider though,

1630
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,600
is probably trying to be a state or we're trying to talk about it.

1631
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:22,780
Certainly there are lots of things that we would see from the students in person who are following these folks that people would hear things.

1632
01:42:23,180 --> 01:42:26,820
But if you're not always amongst the way to protect individuals from the media,

1633
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:32,180
and I think we need to separate this to write this to one another and really do this about things.

1634
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:33,560
Do you want me your name again?

1635
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:34,740
Megan Greene?

1636
01:42:35,140 --> 01:42:35,960
Do you think you want to break that?

1637
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:36,700
Thank you.

1638
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,280
I'm going to make the last move.

1639
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:41,200
There's a little bit too much work, there's always public safety.

1640
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,400
You start up by saying it's about public safety.

1641
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:50,860
I will add that typical grades to go to ordinances, my day that I just put the whole

1642
01:42:50,860 --> 01:42:54,360
grades that I think I was going to get out of the fund is health safety and welfare.

1643
01:42:54,860 --> 01:42:59,740
Safety is one of the three works, the overall welfare of the borough, health safety welfare.

1644
01:43:00,260 --> 01:43:04,440
So that will be in the next draft, it's not just safety safety, that's just a part.

1645
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:05,480
Thank you.

1646
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:06,060
Thank you.

1647
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,320
Thank you.

1648
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:07,460
I don't

1649
01:43:10,110 --> 01:43:14,090
know if I can already tell, so it's not really favored to be this in, if that's the case.

1650
01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:16,090
I'll say nothing and say it one more time.

1651
01:43:16,450 --> 01:43:19,570
It's still right here on the table, and I'll also have a couple of minutes.

1652
01:43:20,330 --> 01:43:24,930
But I mean, nobody was here on that, so I mean, I guess if it does come to stay in the ordinance,

1653
01:43:25,110 --> 01:43:27,270
it'll be coming to the next meeting and it can be used thus then.

1654
01:43:27,490 --> 01:43:27,930
Black friends.

1655
01:43:28,830 --> 01:43:29,390
I'll hold them off.

1656
01:43:29,810 --> 01:43:30,530
Thanks, Elf.

1657
01:43:31,110 --> 01:43:31,570
All right.

1658
01:43:32,030 --> 01:43:36,570
So the last portion of the ordinance is the curbsidewalk alley requirements.

1659
01:43:38,990 --> 01:43:45,050
So any comments that's from the committee about the curb and sidewalk requirement?

1660
01:43:45,910 --> 01:43:52,270
Yeah, real quick we already have ordinances covering sidewalks and sidewalk repair?

1661
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:54,670
Yes, so that's already.

1662
01:43:56,110 --> 01:43:58,510
That's something we can enforce at any time.

1663
01:43:58,810 --> 01:44:00,050
Yes, okay, thank you.

1664
01:44:00,050 --> 01:44:01,390
This is

1665
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,200
up to the sure we have we get calls running on like all that and where we

1666
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:13,280
do streets in the eighth street people out and we mark her and I walk and say

1667
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:18,280
for maybe your street we need to make all of these repairs. That is extremely controversial.

1668
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,580
We bring it to get like this with usually one or two blocks and that's a straight for all

1669
01:44:22,580 --> 01:44:27,640
not year. You know people are very upset. They walk the house wide and we expect

1670
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:32,680
when they go at it, now I need to spend, yeah. I just got a block place for one block.

1671
01:44:32,780 --> 01:44:35,780
No curveable, I straight 1,000 dollars for one block.

1672
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,580
You need to spend it. Yeah.

1673
01:44:37,580 --> 01:44:40,080
We've six blocks in her, it is a lot of money.

1674
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,900
So when we get a complaint, we do often have to go out and tell them,

1675
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,580
whether this is required, you need to maintain this.

1676
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:51,140
And the person who's dormitory or setting this in, it's still not happening.

1677
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,020
I don't know if she wouldn't just buy a house and you didn't do this, right?

1678
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,780
The money is on the table. So I can't trust in my figure. Anyone in this room, so I know we're full of real estate agents. If you're not telling them and their inspection isn't pointing it out to them, they're really don't realize they're responsible because we hear from the council, and they don't know that they're responsible. They think we own it. This is a great time to inspect this, make sure it's done so that both parties know that this need to be taken care of.

1679
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:34,120
don't do it now, we'll be at your front door in a couple of years, and you're not going

1680
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:34,900
to have $10,000.

1681
01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:40,560
Especially my seniors and all these other people, so we have, you know, many seniors have lived

1682
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:46,060
here their whole lives, and our taxes are affordable, and we're desirable, and they make

1683
01:45:46,060 --> 01:45:50,180
25 times their money, or 10 times their money on what they've heard to them.

1684
01:45:50,420 --> 01:45:54,380
So, a lot easier doing it on the way out with someone moving in than it is to turn around

1685
01:45:54,380 --> 01:45:56,740
and have to put $50,000 out there.

1686
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,360
So, that's why it is required now.

1687
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:05,000
It's not a bad check to do with that time because, again, it's all ready to fly up those spots.

1688
01:46:05,780 --> 01:46:11,000
And again, this is done in many, many, many other municipalities.

1689
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,180
I have one more question.

1690
01:46:13,340 --> 01:46:16,480
Repairs must take place prior to the transfer of the property.

1691
01:46:17,020 --> 01:46:18,540
We've talked about winter.

1692
01:46:18,820 --> 01:46:20,680
We've talked about muddy conditions.

1693
01:46:21,020 --> 01:46:26,420
Is there a way to say it's got to take, you have four months, six months?

1694
01:46:26,420 --> 01:46:29,120
I really shouldn't be, that should, that should, that's just messed.

1695
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:33,760
There's another section that says that if you don't have to buy clothes, you can be able to be useful to the fire.

1696
01:46:34,740 --> 01:46:37,980
I think when I've changed some of the language in one section, I didn't take that for a hour.

1697
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:38,380
Okay.

1698
01:46:38,620 --> 01:46:40,360
That would just be natural for the other part.

1699
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:41,520
Thank you.

1700
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:47,460
I do like the language that that field has, where they look for tripping hazards, in particular,

1701
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:56,280
no serious cracking or heaving, because, in inspection, so what actually, what we

1702
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,740
I'm going to be trying to do what I have criteria.

1703
01:46:58,940 --> 01:47:00,180
And that's what we're seeing in the criteria.

1704
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:01,920
And I said it's easy to be improvement.

1705
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,400
And it can be more easy to respect every year.

1706
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,220
And Mark X is on the blocks that have to be repaired.

1707
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,600
It was always a trimming hazard at your height.

1708
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,340
You know, it's where it breaks.

1709
01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:14,520
You know, it's one part by a couple inches,

1710
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:16,540
or completely small in missing.

1711
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,200
But we can put on specific criteria in here.

1712
01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:20,340
Yeah, that's really hard.

1713
01:47:20,740 --> 01:47:22,920
But I mean, if it's a tiny airline ride,

1714
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:23,960
we're not marking it.

1715
01:47:24,020 --> 01:47:24,340
OK.

1716
01:47:24,340 --> 01:47:30,540
But it's really hard to write that in writing because then it's in opinion and I really don't want it's objective

1717
01:47:30,540 --> 01:47:35,500
Yeah, I would say it's all done. If it's any more clear in our existing

1718
01:47:35,500 --> 01:47:37,260
or importance

1719
01:47:37,860 --> 01:47:42,980
That we would add into this one. Yeah, a little more language maybe and also

1720
01:47:44,380 --> 01:47:47,180
You know a little bit a

1721
01:47:47,180 --> 01:47:53,480
little bit of a you know an edge that will be a tripping hazard doesn't necessarily mean you have to replace the entire block

1722
01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:57,540
You know, you might be able to, to, to going to ramp it, so.

1723
01:47:58,020 --> 01:47:58,140
Sure.

1724
01:47:58,340 --> 01:47:58,560
Yeah.

1725
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,180
These are, we've gone that.

1726
01:48:00,340 --> 01:48:00,560
Yeah.

1727
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:07,200
And we're not, you know, we're not looking to screw anybody up at their money, right?

1728
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:14,400
But you know, if we're going to market ourselves as a walkable town, which is a primary

1729
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:19,580
reason why people do want to buy here, we have to be able to walk around safely.

1730
01:48:19,580 --> 01:48:29,580
It's one of the top things I get emails about and calls about, since being on Council, is how terrible so many of our sidewalks are.

1731
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:34,800
I'm quite amazed.

1732
01:48:35,300 --> 01:48:40,320
Are there any other comments from Council on this sidewalk issue?

1733
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:49,460
So I do on the sidewalk one.

1734
01:48:49,460 --> 01:48:59,700
Again, I thought the same thing, but then I understand what changed the language on that take place prior to the sale of the property because that we can't do.

1735
01:49:00,580 --> 01:49:03,820
I think we do need more clear language.

1736
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,280
I know I get it. It's hard. It is a little bit subjective.

1737
01:49:09,420 --> 01:49:18,640
I think the curve in the sidewalk, we can do a little better. I think the alley is the one that could be really difficult.

1738
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:26,720
Um, you know, I've got an alien and some neighbors have a beautiful paved alley that matches

1739
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,640
the new asphalt that was just done.

1740
01:49:29,940 --> 01:49:31,920
We have others that are just dirt.

1741
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:33,460
We have others that are gravel.

1742
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:35,860
We have others that are a mix.

1743
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,200
We have others that are cracking and falling apart.

1744
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,860
They're, it's a variety up and down the entire alley.

1745
01:49:41,860 --> 01:49:48,600
So I have no idea what Ali means and I don't know how we define that.

1746
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,360
So that one's a little tough for me.

1747
01:49:54,860 --> 01:49:58,620
You know, I think we need a little bit of definition around that.

1748
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:04,520
Again, I'm a little, I'm torn on this one.

1749
01:50:04,620 --> 01:50:08,700
I understand this is when the money's on the table and the last thing I want to do,

1750
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:14,500
I imagine how I would feel if I, you know, bought a home and then all of a sudden I had to

1751
01:50:14,500 --> 01:50:19,860
do $5,000 worth of sidewalk repairs and I didn't know that I owned or that it was my

1752
01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:24,020
responsibility and where am I going to come up with that money and then I see the burrs

1753
01:50:24,020 --> 01:50:29,180
perspective now, okay, we've got to go fix it. Now we're going to put a lean on your house.

1754
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:35,780
Now we're acting as a bank and now what is that costing us all and not just costing the burrow

1755
01:50:35,780 --> 01:50:38,400
that's costing everybody in this room.

1756
01:50:39,740 --> 01:50:42,420
I'm worried about liability if we,

1757
01:50:42,460 --> 01:50:44,160
we have a lot of events

1758
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,980
and people are walking all over this town.

1759
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,040
What is that liability if someone,

1760
01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:53,140
I mean, there are people in wheelchairs this weekend.

1761
01:50:53,460 --> 01:50:56,260
I mean, I was even thinking as I was watching them,

1762
01:50:56,260 --> 01:50:58,600
oh God, don't get on the other side of this street

1763
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:01,340
because I know what that sidewalk looks like.

1764
01:51:01,340 --> 01:51:03,440
So I,

1765
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:16,680
I get it to do it here. I'm worried that it's not enough, but I, again, want to be cognizant of our financials.

1766
01:51:16,780 --> 01:51:21,800
And I don't want to go higher, somebody to go out and do inspections, Glenn's one man.

1767
01:51:22,540 --> 01:51:26,500
And you know, like you said, you don't, it does not result in happy people.

1768
01:52:01,540 --> 01:52:10,540
Yeah, I'm just worried that this isn't enough, but to your point, if we're addressing those things, as they're coming up, that's fine.

1769
01:52:10,740 --> 01:52:17,040
I just don't, again, want to be spending money to hire a person to go walk in the streets of Angler market people's houses.

1770
01:52:17,500 --> 01:52:21,480
The last place I want to go. Perfect. Thank you.

1771
01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:24,670
So something you can control about.

1772
01:52:27,410 --> 01:52:34,150
Some one is walking down the street in front of your house and trips on your bandside walk.

1773
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:35,610
Who gets sued?

1774
01:52:36,070 --> 01:52:38,070
Some of the bandside walk.

1775
01:52:38,150 --> 01:52:41,150
So the sidewalk is either public right away, which is

1776
01:52:45,690 --> 01:52:48,270
within your it's yours, but it also

1777
01:52:48,270 --> 01:52:49,590
has the right public passage.

1778
01:52:49,770 --> 01:52:53,570
But if you have to maintain, you have to do some, you have to fix it, but we're going to

1779
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:54,870
see.

1780
01:52:54,870 --> 01:53:01,570
The barrel knows about an incident for a bad area and we don't need to maintain it some good sort of be then liable.

1781
01:53:01,650 --> 01:53:08,370
Generally speaking, when the barrel is put on notice of a situation where liability can attach and does nothing,

1782
01:53:09,410 --> 01:53:15,110
they potentially face liability. The common scenario there is with low accidents and highway parking and signs,

1783
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:20,970
where they have been told to the town. This is a dangerous curve. They don't do anything they don't put a sign up in under the town.

1784
01:53:20,970 --> 01:53:23,590
And then you have scenario where they get sued.

1785
01:53:23,870 --> 01:53:27,390
I'm not aware of these values getting sued

1786
01:53:27,390 --> 01:53:28,830
unless it's their cycle.

1787
01:53:30,450 --> 01:53:31,210
Face that.

1788
01:53:31,230 --> 01:53:36,030
I have one other question, also about the alleys.

1789
01:53:37,330 --> 01:53:42,410
I wonder if alleys are such a different animal

1790
01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:44,750
than sidewalks.

1791
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:47,110
I wonder about taking that out of this,

1792
01:53:47,130 --> 01:53:48,590
because it's not walkable.

1793
01:53:48,590 --> 01:53:53,930
Yeah, it's not, the public isn't walking on it.

1794
01:53:54,110 --> 01:53:55,770
It's not there as fire trucks.

1795
01:53:56,050 --> 01:53:57,950
Yeah, I know fire trucks in the trash trucks,

1796
01:53:58,110 --> 01:54:00,510
and but I also know what a problem

1797
01:54:01,550 --> 01:54:05,710
have already and, you know, forever.

1798
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:10,870
That when some of these alleys need to be

1799
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:13,310
repaved that it's a nightmare because

1800
01:54:13,310 --> 01:54:15,550
it's pointless to repave just a little

1801
01:54:15,550 --> 01:54:22,690
to fill in behind your house. So we always work with all of the neighbors on a hole on a hole

1802
01:54:22,690 --> 01:54:30,270
block. But doesn't it? It doesn't matter. Like it aren't some of them owned by the barrel and some

1803
01:54:30,270 --> 01:54:38,010
owned by the residents. So yeah. You look at the banks from that group town. There's one of the alleys

1804
01:54:38,010 --> 01:54:44,350
are owned by the residents of that block. Yeah. And now people drive them down all the time.

1805
01:54:47,110 --> 01:54:52,950
And then some are public, some were personally out of streets and became out of somebody out of the alleys.

1806
01:54:53,250 --> 01:54:55,970
So it really, you know, they are two different completely different animals.

1807
01:54:56,470 --> 01:55:04,730
Okay, so that's that this reference to Alley in this section is referring to Alley's that are owned by the homeowners.

1808
01:55:06,450 --> 01:55:14,010
I think that is just such a different and separate situation that we should take this out of this particular work.

1809
01:55:14,010 --> 01:55:18,330
I would take it. I agree with taking Ellie's out.

1810
01:55:18,490 --> 01:55:23,370
Fire trucks can probably get down. Even if there's a couple of bottles, right?

1811
01:55:25,350 --> 01:55:27,450
My Ellie has a straight name.

1812
01:55:29,170 --> 01:55:30,530
So it's a whole separate thing.

1813
01:55:31,070 --> 01:55:32,610
It's separate as it is.

1814
01:55:32,970 --> 01:55:34,470
I don't think it should be part of this.

1815
01:55:37,590 --> 01:55:38,870
Anything else from Council?

1816
01:55:39,630 --> 01:55:39,910
No.

1817
01:55:40,570 --> 01:55:44,410
I will take public comment now on the sidewalk portion.

1818
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:51,040
If we want to keep going the way we're doing it, just create a line at the podium.

1819
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:52,880
Okay.

1820
01:55:57,900 --> 01:55:59,100
Who just gave us your name now?

1821
01:55:59,460 --> 01:55:59,640
Yes.

1822
01:55:59,980 --> 01:56:02,440
Bob that way and my wife and I moved the corner.

1823
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:13,510
We have a number probably 70 year old spruce trees that are on borders of our property.

1824
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:25,990
And I looked at the tree orchard in the afternoon, and there was, it seems to me the only comments on trees between the sidewalk and the curb line.

1825
01:56:26,930 --> 01:56:42,870
What I'm concerned about in this situation would be over the years, a tree that is 70 years old, obviously extend roots, and we have several sections of the sidewalk.

1826
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:46,290
that are more than the three inch vertical at this point.

1827
01:56:46,910 --> 01:56:51,630
I've talked to the code enforcement officer in a couple of occasions, but I don't have

1828
01:56:51,630 --> 01:56:52,350
to solve that.

1829
01:56:52,570 --> 01:56:53,050
It's your problem.

1830
01:56:56,170 --> 01:56:57,130
Thank you.

1831
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:03,480
Thank you.

1832
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:09,840
So my question regarding sidewalks, if there is something that needs repair, if there's something

1833
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:14,060
in the homeowner can use themselves, because I live forwarding upper-dublin and they just had

1834
01:57:14,060 --> 01:57:16,160
all of their sidewalks who hired to be repaired.

1835
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:22,460
And they had to do it with the township and the township charge, whatever.

1836
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:26,540
And also what defines, like, so a crap in the sidewalk,

1837
01:57:26,860 --> 01:57:28,620
like, where is that fine?

1838
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:31,720
Because, like, upper-down and required any damage to it,

1839
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:36,080
to be totally replaced by the township at a very expensive cost.

1840
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,360
So, is that something become a matter of parallel cells?

1841
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:41,220
Absolutely.

1842
01:57:41,460 --> 01:57:41,760
Yeah.

1843
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:43,300
I mean, we do the paving.

1844
01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:46,080
We won't let you say we were going to pay your street.

1845
01:57:46,340 --> 01:57:52,660
We would come out, hopefully we'd try and get after at least six months in advance and say we're putting vids out to do gaming.

1846
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:54,420
We would mark your house.

1847
01:57:54,660 --> 01:57:59,520
So if it's a slight crack and there's no trip hazard, chances are we would be below.

1848
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:04,080
If it looks like it's only a trip or it's starting to really separate, different story.

1849
01:58:05,300 --> 01:58:08,960
You have the option of getting your own contractor and doing it if you do nothing.

1850
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:14,640
That's when the borrowing, when we gave the hired contractor, people do any houses that were not done.

1851
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:17,240
And we will turn around and send the bill to you.

1852
01:58:17,380 --> 01:58:18,480
And that's where we run into.

1853
01:58:18,700 --> 01:58:21,220
When the person does not pay, we have to clean their property.

1854
01:58:21,580 --> 01:58:22,620
And we do not have to clean it.

1855
01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:23,820
We're a small town.

1856
01:58:24,020 --> 01:58:25,500
We don't like cleaning our neighbors.

1857
01:58:26,140 --> 01:58:26,840
And that's it.

1858
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:27,460
It's said, we don't.

1859
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:29,900
I thought it would be with sidewalks.

1860
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,660
You could, if they were minor, you could repair your own sidewalk.

1861
01:58:33,740 --> 01:58:36,280
And it curves, curves, none.

1862
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:37,340
I'm sure you can't.

1863
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:37,820
Yeah.

1864
01:58:37,820 --> 01:58:38,040
Yeah.

1865
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:39,100
You can.

1866
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:40,600
You can't.

1867
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:45,300
They just can't be replaced.

1868
01:58:46,380 --> 01:58:49,480
They curbs one of the totally replaced when the other cut.

1869
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:51,280
Yeah.

1870
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,820
And it sounds like we're going to add clarification to the next.

1871
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,420
To the next draft about tripping hazard versus just a crack that's.

1872
01:58:59,420 --> 01:59:01,040
I just want to have a question about the alley too.

1873
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:07,040
like, so where would you define like the borders of the alley to be that common under the

1874
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:07,860
bridge to it?

1875
01:59:07,860 --> 01:59:09,080
I think we're taking it out.

1876
01:59:11,180 --> 01:59:16,520
And Mary to clarify, I think what we've done before is when you're about doing street

1877
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:17,200
paving.

1878
01:59:17,940 --> 01:59:23,200
You've said, you know, fix your sidewalk on your own or I can get you a deal with a contractor

1879
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:31,020
who they're heading, I mean, nothing against unions, but when we do contractors, we're

1880
01:59:31,020 --> 01:59:33,600
that we need to meet because of the cost of the job.

1881
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,640
So, the laborer might get $75 an hour a unit wage.

1882
01:59:38,100 --> 01:59:42,540
Yep. You may find the guy who lives in Amber, who's a local contractor, support him too,

1883
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:46,780
and you're paying a lot less hours a day. So, okay. You have both options. Perfect. Thank you.

1884
01:59:48,540 --> 01:59:49,160
Welcome back.

1885
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:50,520
I'm just kidding.

1886
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:51,080
I'm just kidding.

1887
01:59:52,700 --> 01:59:54,580
So, I get...

1888
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,800
There's no need,

1889
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:35,240
if someone complains about my sidewalk and it's out of spec, if you mark it up, do I give the wait until I resell my house to fix it? Right? The answer's no. So this really does nothing. If you're worried about hiring people to inspect, you still have to inspect whenever someone's selling a house, right? So instead of having a systematic inspection, you're scarrot shopping based on grease, like home sales that doesn't seem like the climate in my opinion.

1890
02:00:35,500 --> 02:00:39,000
Thank you.

1891
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:40,180
Very deep think.

1892
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:45,600
I feel like maybe Glenn mentioned this at a previous meeting that this would probably be

1893
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:51,260
one of those times where if one house on a block, getting this inspection because it's

1894
02:00:51,260 --> 02:01:01,540
being sold, it's a great opportunity where other names would look at the, we would look at the whole

1895
02:01:01,540 --> 02:01:08,500
and then, you know, help them out with the need of that suit and be able to help them.

1896
02:01:09,660 --> 02:01:11,780
I don't know much about that.

1897
02:01:12,500 --> 02:01:13,780
I don't know much about that.

1898
02:01:13,780 --> 02:01:16,160
I don't know much about that.

1899
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,080
I don't know much about that.

1900
02:01:19,620 --> 02:01:24,880
And I don't want to go there.

1901
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,560
My goal really is to avoid going there, honestly.

1902
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:39,280
And that's exactly right if this is a way right so I'm look no, but I am I'm I'm torn on this one because on one hand

1903
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:45,460
I feel like okay, I can get it. I can get behind it's a public safety issue. I'm

1904
02:01:45,460 --> 02:01:49,580
Good with all that we already haven't ordinance the addresses this, but

1905
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:58,340
We're obviously not set up unless we all want to pay more in taxes to hire somebody to come out and look at our sidewalks and make

1906
02:01:58,340 --> 02:01:59,860
all of us are really upset.

1907
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:03,740
This is sort of a happy medium for me.

1908
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:09,000
Maybe I keep talking, clearly I'm still deciding.

1909
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:19,320
But I don't know, we absolutely can.

1910
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,960
And probably 50% of the barrel is going to get a notice

1911
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,600
of violation and have to spend thousands dollars.

1912
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:27,180
That's the other way we can go.

1913
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:28,240
I'm not saying this.

1914
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,220
I'm threatening, that's just how the order is written.

1915
02:02:30,620 --> 02:02:34,140
We just have to refrain from it because it is a very ugly conversation.

1916
02:02:34,140 --> 02:02:51,420
Yeah, I'd prefer not to go, honestly, honestly, I'd prefer to avoid going to that ordinance and enforcing it and hiring more staff to go out or have even part time because Glenn can't do it off.

1917
02:02:51,580 --> 02:02:57,600
He's going to have to go out. Somebody's got to walk the streets of Amblar. Mark all of these. See if they're getting done.

1918
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:02,080
you know they're there and then you're talking about word now becoming a small bank

1919
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:06,400
you know for the leans last thing I want to do is put a lean on somebody's property

1920
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:11,940
especially some elderly person who can't afford a side walk so if I can do this is a happy

1921
02:03:11,940 --> 02:03:17,980
medium and I'm sorry for the real others I am I know it's crappy for you I don't know

1922
02:03:17,980 --> 02:03:27,260
but I I think this is one of those common I agree it is and in every ordinance that I

1923
02:03:27,260 --> 02:03:32,400
and you talked about upper-devilined Tina did where they did it and everybody had a pay.

1924
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,820
I don't think that would be well received here either.

1925
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,840
I think we'd need a bigger room.

1926
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:29,520
Thank you.

1927
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:29,680
Thank you.

1928
02:04:33,430 --> 02:04:34,750
Come on with this stuff.

1929
02:04:35,130 --> 02:04:40,210
Again, as I said before, we're not looking to screw everybody over.

1930
02:04:44,420 --> 02:04:46,380
I'm going to reiterate what that gentleman said.

1931
02:04:46,740 --> 02:04:51,940
But add to it that if we happen existing ordinance and we're just duplicating it,

1932
02:04:51,940 --> 02:04:55,680
there's no problem to solve because there's a next existing work.

1933
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,320
So what you're saying is there's a problem with the existing ordinance

1934
02:05:01,420 --> 02:05:05,740
because it doesn't seem like this is doing anything different.

1935
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:11,400
It's just, as I mentioned earlier, adding a data collection blank

1936
02:05:11,940 --> 02:05:16,240
that might facilitate progress on sidewalks.

1937
02:05:16,260 --> 02:05:19,980
But that's not saying that this ordinance isn't redundant today.

1938
02:05:21,970 --> 02:05:24,730
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a redundant but it's a trigger.

1939
02:05:24,770 --> 02:05:27,110
Exactly. Thank you.

1940
02:05:27,110 --> 02:05:27,110
The

1941
02:05:44,450 --> 02:05:45,170
comments.

1942
02:05:46,670 --> 02:05:51,970
I know years ago, they, of course, the ordinance in Amber, like 20 years ago.

1943
02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:54,550
And I remember they did.

1944
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,800
And when we sold the property that, it fixed that they didn't have enough.

1945
02:06:00,500 --> 02:06:01,620
They didn't have enough.

1946
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:02,880
They leaned the property.

1947
02:06:03,340 --> 02:06:05,900
So, I'm a little confused, I guess.

1948
02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:07,040
The prison ordinance.

1949
02:06:07,500 --> 02:06:08,640
There was never a force.

1950
02:06:09,420 --> 02:06:25,390
So I'm not sure about that, but I am as a real favorite of when the sale is done that responsible for somebody that's brought up where it's negotiated in the neighborhood.

1951
02:06:26,090 --> 02:06:40,090
Because the ambulance is a walkable community and there's some sidewalks that are really trip hazards that are dangerous and it's for the homeowners benefit also because I've been

1952
02:06:40,090 --> 02:06:42,850
at a friends of mine and this is civilian.

1953
02:06:43,810 --> 02:06:47,930
It's quite common, lawsuits, or it's just the common thing.

1954
02:06:48,730 --> 02:06:53,130
And it's very easy to tell the states to laugh.

1955
02:06:53,770 --> 02:06:56,030
It's easy to make money tripping on a sideways.

1956
02:06:57,570 --> 02:06:58,570
Oh, I apologize.

1957
02:06:58,810 --> 02:06:59,290
It's so awful.

1958
02:06:59,690 --> 02:07:00,450
People are handy.

1959
02:07:00,570 --> 02:07:01,490
They're not good for homeowners.

1960
02:07:01,970 --> 02:07:03,130
They're not handy either.

1961
02:07:03,530 --> 02:07:06,290
It's ways to smooth that out, to raise it,

1962
02:07:06,290 --> 02:07:16,050
But, andlers definitely should do that, and most properties, you know, most properties are 50 foot rock, white, and there's like 7 or 8 blocks.

1963
02:07:16,770 --> 02:07:21,950
So, you know, because always we get clear on what's a trip hazard and crack, what needs to be replaced.

1964
02:07:22,230 --> 02:07:23,970
I think that's going to be doing pretty well.

1965
02:07:24,170 --> 02:07:26,270
Yes. So, I would be a favorite of that.

1966
02:07:26,570 --> 02:07:36,170
The other thing that I think, as a walking community, is that the trees or shrubs should be,

1967
02:07:36,170 --> 02:07:48,570
Take this here, also, because that's a safe issue, because as a woman, I walk myself from my grandmother where I actually have to go to the street, because I can't get past the bushes.

1968
02:07:49,510 --> 02:07:56,230
Sometimes the road's bushes are whatever, so they should be, you know, that should be something that's addressed.

1969
02:07:56,510 --> 02:07:58,290
That does happen when we get calls.

1970
02:07:58,290 --> 02:08:02,590
Yeah, all about that we will reach out to the homeowner and tell them some people just someone and one

1971
02:08:02,590 --> 02:08:08,570
The property and they let it go. Yeah, but we do we do we trust those and what's this the correct side walk

1972
02:08:08,570 --> 02:08:13,730
If we get a call, we do we trust it. That's good. We don't want to take it on our own and upset the entire

1973
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:22,170
No, some of them if it's brought up or whatever that was before that's good and the last thing is

1974
02:08:23,170 --> 02:08:24,630
It's grown by hand.

1975
02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:25,250
Good grant.

1976
02:08:25,550 --> 02:08:25,910
That's coming.

1977
02:08:26,090 --> 02:08:26,770
That's coming.

1978
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:29,510
It's taken six weeks or three to the end.

1979
02:08:29,570 --> 02:08:29,870
Highland.

1980
02:08:30,090 --> 02:08:30,350
I know.

1981
02:08:30,630 --> 02:08:34,950
We've had a grant for six, seven years.

1982
02:08:35,090 --> 02:08:38,390
We're putting sidewalks on all of Highland.

1983
02:08:39,470 --> 02:08:41,150
We're still working on the park on the side.

1984
02:08:41,410 --> 02:08:42,610
That's part of a bigger project.

1985
02:08:43,410 --> 02:08:46,250
Sidewalks will go on north.

1986
02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:47,430
North, north, straight.

1987
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:48,890
And Highland.

1988
02:08:49,610 --> 02:08:49,670
OK.

1989
02:08:49,670 --> 02:08:51,550
Actually, it's eight years we've had the grant.

1990
02:08:51,550 --> 02:08:56,170
We haven't set the money because we have the money. Jim, when is that going to bid?

1991
02:08:56,390 --> 02:08:59,170
I'm going to shut one star next to early next year.

1992
02:08:59,350 --> 02:09:01,690
Yeah, that's good. So the borough of profit.

1993
02:09:02,010 --> 02:09:02,970
I guess we've got a borough of the year.

1994
02:09:02,970 --> 02:09:04,590
We're guilty too. We have.

1995
02:09:06,090 --> 02:09:06,830
Thank you.

1996
02:09:09,390 --> 02:09:10,350
Thank you.

1997
02:09:12,010 --> 02:09:12,210
Hi.

1998
02:09:12,690 --> 02:09:12,710
I'm sorry.

1999
02:09:13,150 --> 02:09:13,890
Rachel again.

2000
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:14,870
Two thirty-one.

2001
02:09:14,990 --> 02:09:15,090
Two thirty-one.

2002
02:09:15,090 --> 02:09:15,610
Two thirty-one.

2003
02:09:16,030 --> 02:09:16,210
Three thirty.

2004
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:18,550
In regards to sidewalks,

2005
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:25,490
If we have to have a resale start, I want to be like up in Marion and all those places that don't have one.

2006
02:09:25,810 --> 02:09:32,970
But if we have to have a resale start, we could do three things that are typical, the sidewalks, trip hazards.

2007
02:09:33,890 --> 02:09:42,870
We have to David for smoke detectors, and then visible street numbers, house numbers, so the fireman can save us from the housing on fire.

2008
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:50,850
But I'm enlightened and I'm glad I came today by the thought that, you know, we do, I never really thought about it.

2009
02:09:50,990 --> 02:09:59,390
We do own our water company, and we do have stormwater problems that maybe are not typical since it's a milltail.

2010
02:10:00,190 --> 02:10:11,430
So I'm just a little bit worried that if it would be nice if we could have funding of these many sewer laterals that are going to be in need of replacement.

2011
02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:18,670
If we could have a more affordable way to fund that, like the insurance, I'm going to check my homework, but I think

2012
02:10:18,670 --> 02:10:23,050
Allison is correct that unless it fails, they're not going to pay for anything.

2013
02:10:23,330 --> 02:10:31,830
If we need an upgrade of our waterline, I'd rather instead of paying $100 for a waterline insurance that only pays

2014
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:38,810
my waterline race, I'm a rather paid 200 for a policy that will cover it up when it needs

2015
02:10:38,810 --> 02:10:44,130
to be updated, if it needs to be updated. And the same thing for the sewer lateral, I'm concerned

2016
02:10:44,130 --> 02:10:53,990
because it could be 10,000, 14,000, and so on. So if we have to do a resale search, why not have

2017
02:10:53,990 --> 02:11:00,970
a reasonable one that is typical like other places do, which would be the three items that everyone

2018
02:11:00,970 --> 02:11:12,030
And then maybe we should address these stormwater issues a little more aggressively in another way because it seems like the problem is bigger than I had your life.

2019
02:11:13,090 --> 02:11:14,330
I wish there was a answer for that.

2020
02:11:14,570 --> 02:11:16,290
But we addressed it anyway possible.

2021
02:11:16,510 --> 02:11:18,910
We've gotten great in speech applied for grants.

2022
02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:23,410
One of the, I don't want to get on the whole stormwater thing, but I'll tell you where we're at.

2023
02:11:23,770 --> 02:11:26,690
We are at the bottom at the creek.

2024
02:11:26,910 --> 02:11:27,790
That's where we live after.

2025
02:11:28,210 --> 02:11:32,450
And there was water coming, you know, all the way from the North Wales coming all the way down to the west exit.

2026
02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:34,450
Our entry point is here.

2027
02:11:35,270 --> 02:11:38,190
And we get those furious rains that we're getting now more often.

2028
02:11:38,810 --> 02:11:40,330
The creek is here.

2029
02:11:41,370 --> 02:11:44,850
So, when our water goes in, it doesn't know where to go, it backs up.

2030
02:11:45,130 --> 02:11:47,250
I can't lift this up to train station.

2031
02:11:47,590 --> 02:11:48,770
And that is what it entails.

2032
02:11:49,250 --> 02:11:49,350
Yeah.

2033
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:54,930
But I think the last time we looked $20 million to make the COVID-19 Main Street larger and the one in orange.

2034
02:11:55,090 --> 02:11:56,590
That's only two.

2035
02:11:56,590 --> 02:11:59,730
No one has that kind of money, and we applied for it.

2036
02:11:59,730 --> 02:12:02,490
We made it an 8 million dollars back then, 12 million.

2037
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:05,070
We keep looking for funding, we go through FEMA.

2038
02:12:05,290 --> 02:12:08,690
It doesn't exist, and that's just not in our budget.

2039
02:12:09,050 --> 02:12:13,990
We've offered to buy out these own stuff, to put basins and no one wants to sell.

2040
02:12:15,110 --> 02:12:18,590
So if it's a program, we've looked in it and we've tried.

2041
02:12:20,170 --> 02:12:24,610
Well, I mean, as a person who has limited funds on the United States,

2042
02:12:24,610 --> 02:12:26,210
and the commitment of the borough.

2043
02:12:26,710 --> 02:12:32,090
But I was really worried about honestly on a resale,

2044
02:12:32,930 --> 02:12:35,890
like then said, if it's a massive bill,

2045
02:12:37,210 --> 02:12:38,510
it could be not global.

2046
02:12:39,110 --> 02:12:40,450
But that's the thing with the roof.

2047
02:12:40,730 --> 02:12:42,430
If you look at the house and do an inspection,

2048
02:12:42,730 --> 02:12:45,590
it means a roof's more expensive than what we're proposing.

2049
02:12:45,890 --> 02:12:46,110
Right.

2050
02:12:46,370 --> 02:12:48,850
Well, if they're buying a house, they get inspects.

2051
02:12:49,170 --> 02:12:52,130
And if they inspect, and they want to put a camera in,

2052
02:12:52,130 --> 02:12:52,690
that's great.

2053
02:12:52,690 --> 02:13:04,890
I mean, but that's typical, but with our frustration and with the water company that we need to do these things, it's just not trying to hold up to say I want to hurt any of you agents.

2054
02:13:05,090 --> 02:13:10,370
But I think we should come up with a Navy and insurance policy that will actually fund us.

2055
02:13:10,570 --> 02:13:12,690
Got 10 people. I can't ensure that.

2056
02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:13,670
I'm sorry.

2057
02:13:14,090 --> 02:13:16,190
We do the water.

2058
02:13:16,210 --> 02:13:16,950
No, they're not there.

2059
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:17,330
All right.

2060
02:13:17,570 --> 02:13:17,830
Yeah.

2061
02:13:17,950 --> 02:13:20,910
Policy that we have to align policy.

2062
02:13:21,670 --> 02:13:23,330
That's basically, yeah.

2063
02:13:23,450 --> 02:13:26,950
But that policy is not going to cover us if it's, if it's led.

2064
02:13:27,490 --> 02:13:28,850
Then how are you looking to that?

2065
02:13:29,030 --> 02:13:29,270
They should.

2066
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:29,930
Yeah.

2067
02:13:29,930 --> 02:13:31,310
Get a rider on your homers.

2068
02:13:31,770 --> 02:13:32,110
John John.

2069
02:13:32,490 --> 02:13:33,890
That's the best way out there.

2070
02:13:34,230 --> 02:13:34,350
Okay.

2071
02:13:34,810 --> 02:13:35,270
All right.

2072
02:13:35,270 --> 02:13:35,950
That's the best way out there.

2073
02:13:36,170 --> 02:13:36,910
That's the best way out there.

2074
02:13:36,910 --> 02:13:37,230
That's the best way out there.

2075
02:13:37,230 --> 02:13:37,410
All right.

2076
02:13:37,410 --> 02:13:37,970
All right.

2077
02:13:58,670 --> 02:14:04,710
I think it should be a typical one, not an overreaching one.

2078
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:09,280
where we stand, curves, alleys, and funny ones.

2079
02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:16,460
And I just wanted to bring something up there is obviously

2080
02:14:16,460 --> 02:14:20,040
aesthetic ordinance on the books in the borough code really

2081
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:21,800
specifically due to the sidewalks.

2082
02:14:22,540 --> 02:14:25,000
So the fact that it's not being followed and being

2083
02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:28,700
refrain from is a little disconcerting, but I get it.

2084
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:29,160
It's challenging.

2085
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:31,360
What I don't understand is this is being

2086
02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:33,600
not perceived in an eye-grey and a ton of our sidewalks

2087
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:34,800
are an horrible condition.

2088
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:44,520
Like, you know, like, on my walk alone, I had one house sell in the past five years, so that fix is maybe three sidewalk blocks, and then 25 other sidewalk blocks are still in that.

2089
02:14:44,940 --> 02:14:52,760
So if you actually follow the ordinance that you have currently on the folks, I realize it's not a conversation you want to have, but then it's uniform.

2090
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:54,680
You know, the neighbors can get together and they can get...

2091
02:15:01,330 --> 02:15:09,830
I think doing a piece, I just don't know what's going to change the goal of that year. So then maybe we should do it, I see what's going to happen.

2092
02:15:09,890 --> 02:15:10,550
Thank you.

2093
02:15:15,550 --> 02:15:16,350
Thank you.

2094
02:15:27,130 --> 02:15:30,590
I'm afraid that's going to cause us all money.

2095
02:15:30,590 --> 02:15:32,110
more money.

2096
02:15:32,250 --> 02:15:33,490
More rentals that are out there.

2097
02:15:33,770 --> 02:15:35,190
They really ignore us.

2098
02:15:35,490 --> 02:15:36,910
So, we're going to hold only that block.

2099
02:15:37,050 --> 02:15:38,670
We're going to pass it off to the next person.

2100
02:15:39,550 --> 02:15:41,570
And we're going to be raising tax to the public.

2101
02:15:42,070 --> 02:15:43,590
And Creek pandemic.

2102
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:46,210
The entire town was inspecting a sidewalk.

2103
02:15:46,210 --> 02:15:47,870
I mean, a street by street.

2104
02:15:48,350 --> 02:15:51,090
And having come owners repair and replace or whatever.

2105
02:15:51,470 --> 02:15:52,430
Pandemic hit.

2106
02:15:52,570 --> 02:15:54,770
They stopped and they have not started it back.

2107
02:15:54,990 --> 02:15:59,190
And it's now in their ordinance for their, um, that the sale.

2108
02:16:00,210 --> 02:16:03,170
but they start a big audience like we do on the volcano.

2109
02:16:03,710 --> 02:16:08,130
I don't know why they didn't start, I don't know why they-

2110
02:16:08,130 --> 02:16:09,090
people of food.

2111
02:16:22,620 --> 02:16:24,180
Those types of charges roll up for the number.

2112
02:16:24,460 --> 02:16:25,940
They're burning down for all the sidewalks.

2113
02:16:32,340 --> 02:16:33,660
They don't have to hear about it.

2114
02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:40,690
Well, for adults, they also have parts that they may have a certified mix from a kind

2115
02:16:40,690 --> 02:16:41,230
of a product.

2116
02:16:41,850 --> 02:16:42,250
Oh yeah.

2117
02:16:42,710 --> 02:16:42,990
Yeah.

2118
02:16:43,490 --> 02:16:46,090
I mean, I know it won't be the worst services.

2119
02:16:46,570 --> 02:16:46,950
Yeah.

2120
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:50,670
You have to do a special base advantage.

2121
02:16:50,750 --> 02:16:51,370
Back to the route.

2122
02:16:51,550 --> 02:16:52,030
We'll inspect this.

2123
02:16:52,030 --> 02:16:53,210
This is one block.

2124
02:17:01,710 --> 02:17:04,730
So as we just said, we will allow that.

2125
02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:06,810
So, you know, we're not good villains.

2126
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:07,450
We're not good villains.

2127
02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:10,730
I'm quite surprised you get, you know, perceived you because it is so

2128
02:17:10,730 --> 02:17:11,490
walkable like that.

2129
02:17:11,630 --> 02:17:12,330
Just be like that.

2130
02:17:12,450 --> 02:17:15,670
We're really achieve the goal of so much more than taking a

2131
02:17:15,670 --> 02:17:15,950
shooting a shooting.

2132
02:17:15,950 --> 02:17:23,190
And what happens if there's a point of sale and the

2133
02:17:23,190 --> 02:17:30,230
And as it is in the buyer doesn't do it, then what does the buyer put in the new order's property, and that's the buyer.

2134
02:17:30,630 --> 02:17:35,010
So then the borough will only be on that property and fix it and that's that.

2135
02:17:35,210 --> 02:17:37,230
Because otherwise the borough will potentially be liable.

2136
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:41,310
We can't, we can only, we can only, we can only react to it.

2137
02:17:41,410 --> 02:17:42,810
We can't, we can only go what we like.

2138
02:17:43,090 --> 02:17:44,010
Right, right, right, right.

2139
02:17:46,930 --> 02:17:50,010
So that's the thing, that's the thing, that's the thing.

2140
02:17:50,010 --> 02:17:52,210
I'm trying to remember what it.

2141
02:17:59,690 --> 02:18:01,490
Probably two or five don't want to know.

2142
02:18:02,330 --> 02:18:04,230
I've been a resident for four years,

2143
02:18:04,430 --> 02:18:08,350
and I have about three to come to council meeting.

2144
02:18:09,050 --> 02:18:14,450
I think the contract is going to provide a list of it,

2145
02:18:14,490 --> 02:18:16,950
and we're going to talk about the step in the background.

2146
02:18:17,630 --> 02:18:20,670
There's been so many silly tools walking around the house to buy.

2147
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:23,570
And I want this track to encourage them to cover that.

2148
02:18:23,570 --> 02:18:27,970
They're shouldn't be put on this dollar at the time.

2149
02:18:28,170 --> 02:18:30,070
It's been a lot of other representations

2150
02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:35,090
that we maybe attend in spec things that have a sign

2151
02:18:35,090 --> 02:18:37,730
and not put it on the seller.

2152
02:18:38,190 --> 02:18:41,130
It's a very stressful time to begin with.

2153
02:18:41,390 --> 02:18:42,810
And then you're providing more stress.

2154
02:18:43,450 --> 02:18:45,750
If there is a ordinance, if there's a ordinance,

2155
02:18:46,450 --> 02:18:48,410
if there's a saying that you don't have enough people

2156
02:18:48,410 --> 02:18:50,570
to enforce the ordinance or we want,

2157
02:18:51,330 --> 02:18:57,610
You know, Amber, the first of the long two of them, you see a lot of people together to do different things.

2158
02:18:58,070 --> 02:19:00,510
And you know, you're saying, putting in the news letter.

2159
02:19:00,850 --> 02:19:03,570
You want everyone to report to the outside law for me.

2160
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:09,570
You know, I, by the neighborhood, want to report the federal, and I don't know the outside law from the streets.

2161
02:19:10,030 --> 02:19:12,150
But, you know, sometimes you get the way of it.

2162
02:19:12,630 --> 02:19:19,470
I think it's, you know, you know, you would just want to take other steps and take a piece by piece and find what,

2163
02:19:19,470 --> 02:19:22,410
not to go something on the seller.

2164
02:19:22,810 --> 02:19:25,330
At that point, I think the report is stressful.

2165
02:19:26,270 --> 02:19:30,150
And I'm a resident, not a real one, so I think that represents

2166
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:32,310
an opportunity with a traffic jam.

2167
02:19:32,350 --> 02:19:32,750
Thank you.

2168
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:36,710
I will, I will, I have to be happy to be.

2169
02:19:36,990 --> 02:19:40,550
I have no other, but I'm here with a tax paying

2170
02:19:40,550 --> 02:19:41,090
for real.

2171
02:19:41,090 --> 02:19:41,890
Yes, resident.

2172
02:19:42,350 --> 02:19:42,670
Yes.

2173
02:19:42,990 --> 02:19:43,810
Thank you.

2174
02:19:44,010 --> 02:19:44,770
Thank you.

2175
02:19:44,850 --> 02:19:45,370
Thank you.

2176
02:19:47,050 --> 02:19:48,110
I've got to get in line.

2177
02:19:50,330 --> 02:19:56,550
So I'm just kind of confused if you haven't wanted to let it stand enough time to

2178
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:58,930
have the time to again fight the grass, isn't it?

2179
02:19:58,990 --> 02:20:00,810
No, that wasn't my point at all.

2180
02:20:00,990 --> 02:20:07,070
My point was that I personally, and I'm not speaking for council, I personally was saying

2181
02:20:07,070 --> 02:20:17,110
that I have an issue having blend or hiring another borer resource to walk the streets and

2182
02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:24,110
tell all of these people that they need to go spend potentially $10,000 dollars depending

2183
02:20:24,110 --> 02:20:27,810
on their property imagine if you're on a corner I don't even know what that means for

2184
02:20:27,810 --> 02:20:34,930
you that you're going to have to do this. We know from experience that most people don't do

2185
02:20:34,930 --> 02:20:40,570
it. Now the borrow has to spend the money to do it. We have to put a lean on your property

2186
02:20:40,570 --> 02:20:43,690
now it's harder for you to sell your property because now you're going to sell it with a lean

2187
02:20:43,690 --> 02:20:50,330
it, right? So all of these things I'm just saying are compounding. Again, I'm torn out of it,

2188
02:20:50,330 --> 02:20:56,350
but my point was that I don't want to spend burry sources personally to go have somebody to go

2189
02:20:56,350 --> 02:21:02,830
walk and mark all of your properties and have people be put in that sort of financial hardship. I

2190
02:21:02,830 --> 02:21:12,270
think that's far. I think you got to start somewhere with my son does the same, yep.

2191
02:21:38,110 --> 02:21:38,570
But it's not

2192
02:22:09,550 --> 02:22:17,690
I think we've agreed that we're going to clarify the ordinance that is not just a crack, it's going to be a tripping hazard, which

2193
02:22:23,350 --> 02:22:36,890
I want to be clear that it's that we're not saying that the the seller has to take as you can work it out with the buyer like nobody this and and if somebody wants your house they're probably not going to walk away over a $5,000 side walk repair.

2194
02:22:36,890 --> 02:22:44,950
They may I don't know. I'm just saying that if I were buying a house in Amblar and I was stuck on five thousand dollar sidewalk, it wouldn't stop me.

2195
02:22:46,190 --> 02:22:54,810
I mean, it's you are you are absolutely assuming lots of things and it's very personal, but it could be half of that right you might split.

2196
02:22:55,010 --> 02:23:01,090
I'm just saying there's lots of creative ways that it could be worked out. I don't want it to feel like it's just seller.

2197
02:23:01,090 --> 02:23:03,450
for that one. Don't come out and expect it to

2198
02:23:17,470 --> 02:23:19,050
be clear about looking for

2199
02:23:33,130 --> 02:23:34,390
the sidewalks trying to

2200
02:23:34,390 --> 02:23:35,370
address this problem.

2201
02:23:36,210 --> 02:23:39,910
All right. I think we've already covered it.

2202
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:40,490
All right. Yeah.

2203
02:23:40,770 --> 02:23:47,510
It's a do it when you're selling your house or do it at some random other time.

2204
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:49,070
And I think it makes.

2205
02:23:49,690 --> 02:23:55,290
We have it in here because it makes more sense financially and otherwise to do it when you're selling

2206
02:23:55,290 --> 02:23:59,250
in their house, not whenever we feel like inspecting their street.

2207
02:24:06,310 --> 02:24:07,190
Doing that.

2208
02:24:07,230 --> 02:24:09,170
I can church out in north now.

2209
02:24:09,530 --> 02:24:10,350
They're congregate.

2210
02:24:10,790 --> 02:24:13,190
They're really easy to talk about what kind of music.

2211
02:24:13,730 --> 02:24:14,710
And they actually.

2212
02:24:15,410 --> 02:24:16,190
And the hard books.

2213
02:24:16,450 --> 02:24:17,210
Doing my insurance.

2214
02:24:17,590 --> 02:24:18,370
For a surety bond.

2215
02:24:18,690 --> 02:24:19,050
For a country.

2216
02:24:19,770 --> 02:24:20,530
Because I failed it on.

2217
02:24:20,730 --> 02:24:21,130
Like women.

2218
02:24:21,490 --> 02:24:21,870
For a country.

2219
02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:23,410
So it's just an idea.

2220
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:25,150
Maybe that's just a short one.

2221
02:24:25,450 --> 02:24:26,970
But you can have a violation.

2222
02:24:27,530 --> 02:24:37,010
and come to the agreement instead of leaning, you know, maybe you have them pick up on, and if you need to continue, you know, you need to turn on.

2223
02:24:37,330 --> 02:24:37,830
Thank you.

2224
02:24:38,130 --> 02:24:38,450
Thank you.

2225
02:24:39,190 --> 02:24:39,670
Thank you.

2226
02:24:39,870 --> 02:24:41,690
I'm going to be very grateful.

2227
02:24:43,960 --> 02:24:47,320
The opening goal is to meet sidewalks.

2228
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:48,120
We're accessible.

2229
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:49,480
We're walkable.

2230
02:24:50,220 --> 02:24:53,520
And I think the best way to do it is to enforce what's out there.

2231
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:56,600
You're going to do it at a point sale.

2232
02:24:57,220 --> 02:24:58,460
You're talking about it.

2233
02:24:58,500 --> 02:24:59,920
You're talking about it every so long.

2234
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:03,500
Is that really going to mean how long is it going?

2235
02:25:03,940 --> 02:25:06,640
You're taking to make the rest of it different.

2236
02:25:06,840 --> 02:25:08,480
What am I going to do now?

2237
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:09,340
What do you mean?

2238
02:25:09,580 --> 02:25:11,960
Do you see what's going to be three point six dollars?

2239
02:25:13,460 --> 02:25:16,140
I just feel like if the code is on folks already,

2240
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:17,260
please force the code.

2241
02:25:17,500 --> 02:25:19,220
I know it's been both.

2242
02:25:19,580 --> 02:25:23,120
I have seen all the reasons, but I think to do it at point sale.

2243
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:28,020
The number one, I don't think it's going to really serve the purpose that you wanted to serve.

2244
02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:32,620
Because this is not enough power to sell your family for people to come here.

2245
02:25:32,940 --> 02:25:35,320
On the same year, we don't want to use the minimum things.

2246
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:37,320
And there's just nothing to do.

2247
02:25:37,660 --> 02:25:38,840
I don't think it's going to be noticeable.

2248
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:42,260
There's a different law office, but you must not do that.

2249
02:25:42,480 --> 02:25:43,040
That's fine.

2250
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:44,400
Thank you.

2251
02:25:46,220 --> 02:25:46,900
All right.

2252
02:25:48,930 --> 02:25:49,490
All right.

2253
02:25:49,510 --> 02:25:50,470
Thank you very much.

2254
02:25:51,850 --> 02:25:56,750
When I was counting this, I was using this for the first time.

2255
02:25:56,750 --> 02:26:00,950
I had to write an experiment there, and I had to do that.

2256
02:26:01,310 --> 02:26:03,590
I really wanted to write that one.

2257
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:07,270
Safety is in every one in part time.

2258
02:26:07,530 --> 02:26:09,090
You're my question right.

2259
02:26:10,570 --> 02:26:11,170
I don't care.

2260
02:26:12,850 --> 02:26:15,110
I'm putting this action in part time.

2261
02:26:15,150 --> 02:26:18,430
First and foremost, that is one way.

2262
02:26:18,430 --> 02:26:23,950
There are two things to do there, there is no cover of what's going on.

2263
02:26:24,850 --> 02:26:32,470
So, everyone that comes to go down with it, but you don't need to go to the sidewall for people to walk.

2264
02:26:33,530 --> 02:26:38,430
I have put in real air into a workcraft, and you have to go to the side and say,

2265
02:26:38,430 --> 02:26:41,970
when you were ready to.

2266
02:26:45,250 --> 02:26:47,650
And we were, you know,

2267
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:57,450
There's no important.

2268
02:26:59,030 --> 02:27:06,330
Yeah, that's the plan that we've been successful in.

2269
02:27:09,210 --> 02:27:12,630
So that's the corner of Woodland and...

2270
02:27:12,630 --> 02:27:13,650
What was that like?

2271
02:27:14,190 --> 02:27:15,730
Yes, you know what I mean?

2272
02:27:15,990 --> 02:27:18,650
You know, when you're heading each corner,

2273
02:27:19,270 --> 02:27:21,990
you're trying to avoid this absolutely no point.

2274
02:27:22,410 --> 02:27:23,550
But it was public room.

2275
02:27:24,010 --> 02:27:25,410
You know, because it's not the part of the issue.

2276
02:27:25,830 --> 02:27:28,130
So you can't just want another point today.

2277
02:27:28,650 --> 02:27:30,030
You know, you have to be obsessed with that.

2278
02:27:31,670 --> 02:27:35,950
And this would become an issue if that property is sorry.

2279
02:27:35,950 --> 02:27:38,530
Yes, that's why that's why she's mentioning

2280
02:27:52,050 --> 02:27:54,650
Well, we keep the chatter down, please

2281
02:28:05,950 --> 02:28:09,150
And that's what I think you're not just talking about the current.

2282
02:28:09,650 --> 02:28:13,410
It's just something that leads me to think for anyway, especially from the time.

2283
02:28:13,410 --> 02:28:18,910
I don't talk to people, you say, you know, like, you know, if I don't ask you, you know,

2284
02:28:18,910 --> 02:28:19,850
what's going to happen?

2285
02:28:20,750 --> 02:28:23,670
I'm telling you, I'm not going to say, don't I just think for you?

2286
02:28:23,710 --> 02:28:24,910
Do you know what I'm going to know?

2287
02:28:25,510 --> 02:28:29,350
Because if I see you, I'll be, yeah, it's like that.

2288
02:28:30,290 --> 02:28:31,530
Thank you for your time.

2289
02:28:31,810 --> 02:28:32,130
Thank you.

2290
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:33,570
Thank you.

2291
02:28:33,650 --> 02:28:33,990
Thank you.

2292
02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:54,010
We want to be voting, which I attain, we're making changes to the ordinance, we have to vote to advertise it first.

2293
02:29:03,410 --> 02:29:03,910
All right.

2294
02:29:03,910 --> 02:29:06,930
or anything, whatever form it is in, then.

2295
02:29:07,310 --> 02:29:11,430
And it's very possible, the next meeting we may also make more changes.

2296
02:29:11,970 --> 02:29:13,170
So it could be a multi-meeting.

2297
02:29:13,710 --> 02:29:13,730
Yeah, all right.

2298
02:29:13,770 --> 02:29:16,950
Well, and we don't have our meeting at the beginning of July.

2299
02:29:17,910 --> 02:29:22,030
So our next meeting, yeah, why do you think we're next meeting at the beginning?

2300
02:29:22,030 --> 02:29:22,270
Yeah.

2301
02:29:23,690 --> 02:29:26,930
Matthew Edgar again, who we call school screen, I just have one of those questions.

2302
02:29:26,930 --> 02:29:34,530
the solicitor. Well, this occurring inside of what requirement is now open. If it's required,

2303
02:29:34,990 --> 02:29:40,030
we're going to inspect it by the referral. This transaction is going to be available for the

2304
02:29:40,030 --> 02:29:46,970
local sale property. It's not active on, but it's required by the referral. It's now the

2305
02:29:46,970 --> 02:29:53,170
the barrel on the hook, the auto litigation, because the barrel now requires the physical effort.

2306
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:54,750
Even though you can detect...

2307
02:30:11,620 --> 02:30:31,420
All right, I think that concludes the discussion. On the ordinance, it sounds like we will be sending it back to our solicitor to make changes that were discussed tonight. At the next meeting in July, the most we would be doing is either making additional changes or voting to advertise for hearing. We won't be voting on a final ordinance next meeting.

2308
02:30:31,700 --> 02:30:33,000
All right, are

2309
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:46,750
there any-

2310
02:30:50,780 --> 02:30:57,420
That said, it's all in there.

2311
02:31:16,990 --> 02:31:19,370
the plumber would go in and send something that will go well.

2312
02:31:19,570 --> 02:31:20,970
It will be clear in the Earth.

2313
02:31:21,210 --> 02:31:22,070
That's right.

2314
02:31:25,020 --> 02:31:26,500
And if someone has to back to the better,

2315
02:31:26,780 --> 02:31:27,740
yeah, the fire will get inspected.

2316
02:31:27,940 --> 02:31:29,440
We can't do the work, but it's right.

2317
02:31:29,500 --> 02:31:31,140
Or if something will go out, the bird will

2318
02:31:31,140 --> 02:31:33,280
come inside the house, lens, and specifically

2319
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:34,300
the nothing to do that.

2320
02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:35,560
No, that's not planned.

2321
02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:36,640
This is our water company.

2322
02:31:37,020 --> 02:31:39,380
Our water company will just like we go in and change your meter.

2323
02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:42,440
We will go in and verify that's what we should be doing.

2324
02:31:42,460 --> 02:31:44,920
We can create for free.

2325
02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:47,880
That's what the barrel has to write to go in there.

2326
02:31:48,020 --> 02:31:48,780
We need to go in there.

2327
02:31:48,780 --> 02:31:52,820
and change meters, and then they change the wiring, and so forth, yes they will.

2328
02:31:54,680 --> 02:32:00,320
All right, all right, are there any comments from Council on the rest of the finance and planning agenda?

2329
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:10,260
I just said a little bit.

2330
02:32:10,260 --> 02:32:14,980
I'm going to take a break.

2331
02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:20,040
Okay, we are continuing with the rest of the agenda now.

2332
02:32:21,620 --> 02:32:24,820
All right, are there any comments or questions on the rest of the finance and planning agenda?

2333
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:27,580
Do you need a vote?

2334
02:32:27,960 --> 02:32:29,720
I think we should take a little break.

2335
02:32:29,960 --> 02:32:35,200
We're going to recess for like two minutes because I don't want to stay in the rest of the meeting.

2336
02:32:35,540 --> 02:32:36,660
I know.

2337
02:32:36,660 --> 02:32:38,240
I don't know.

2338
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:39,440
We've got to put it up.

2339
02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:42,020
We are back in session.

2340
02:32:42,560 --> 02:32:44,840
I'm going to finish off the finance and planning committee.

2341
02:32:46,580 --> 02:32:46,840
All right.

2342
02:32:47,580 --> 02:32:51,460
So Mary, number three, the Edgewood Drive store and pipe grant.

2343
02:32:51,600 --> 02:32:53,980
Can you give us a little more information on that one?

2344
02:32:53,980 --> 02:33:01,440
Okay, so this, the majority of this work is reasonable of the form many of your time.

2345
02:33:01,620 --> 02:33:05,060
It's about the green line edgewood for some housing mobility.

2346
02:33:05,780 --> 02:33:08,160
There is a lot of, and that was very controversial.

2347
02:33:08,900 --> 02:33:12,500
There's nothing we could do when we had a very busy mind, just like this.

2348
02:33:12,980 --> 02:33:14,680
But again, the day is also as come worse.

2349
02:33:16,260 --> 02:33:18,780
So, in looking at this, a very little plant of grant,

2350
02:33:18,920 --> 02:33:22,220
or $360,000, $50,000, $50,000,

2351
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:25,340
I got a grant to be able to put in some inlets,

2352
02:33:25,420 --> 02:33:28,140
capture some disorder because it is deteriorating

2353
02:33:28,140 --> 02:33:31,100
the size of the crate, and the homes that were built there,

2354
02:33:31,420 --> 02:33:34,200
are losing some of the dry leaves, things like that.

2355
02:33:37,900 --> 02:33:41,320
At the end of the jet, it will collect stormwater.

2356
02:33:41,780 --> 02:33:43,700
This is part of the end of the sport we've been talking about

2357
02:33:43,700 --> 02:33:44,920
on my office, not much.

2358
02:33:45,440 --> 02:33:47,340
It's a meter on this story, fire me.

2359
02:33:47,660 --> 02:33:52,420
We'll be able to make some of this water and protect the property on it, but also

2360
02:33:52,420 --> 02:33:55,600
protect the great, which we have a lot of blood.

2361
02:33:55,600 --> 02:34:10,320
and we have it.

2362
02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:15,940
What percentage of our reserves is that amount?

2363
02:34:27,230 --> 02:34:35,510
ballpark so it's not like 30 percent okay okay but it's not a giant

2364
02:34:35,510 --> 02:34:40,370
child gives that yeah that was my question okay and Mary you are the

2365
02:34:41,390 --> 02:34:44,850
It's 60, 62 is our match all right.

2366
02:34:45,110 --> 02:34:45,710
Okay, I'm sorry.

2367
02:34:45,950 --> 02:34:46,550
So it's 46.

2368
02:34:46,810 --> 02:34:47,570
They were fully reserved.

2369
02:34:48,270 --> 02:34:49,530
We know that much.

2370
02:34:50,250 --> 02:34:51,010
So it's not advanced.

2371
02:34:51,310 --> 02:34:53,570
So like three percent.

2372
02:34:53,930 --> 02:34:54,530
Okay.

2373
02:34:55,030 --> 02:34:56,170
The B5 is fluctuating.

2374
02:34:56,990 --> 02:34:58,350
The B5 is fluctuating.

2375
02:34:58,550 --> 02:34:58,730
Yeah.

2376
02:35:00,650 --> 02:35:00,810
Yeah.

2377
02:35:00,810 --> 02:35:00,830
Yeah.

2378
02:35:00,830 --> 02:35:06,530
And to be clear, this is not only affecting the few houses that are right now.

2379
02:35:06,650 --> 02:35:07,070
No.

2380
02:35:07,630 --> 02:35:13,670
any storm water management projects we can do upstream makes it better for everybody downstream

2381
02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:18,710
but and since there's not much we can do downstream we have to do everything we can

2382
02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:25,190
up to. Well is this project though it's not it's it's not infiltrating the water it's going

2383
02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:31,610
into a pipe and just being conveyed into the creek so it's going to collect it earlier but it

2384
02:35:32,230 --> 02:35:34,610
That's, if anything, I'm speeding it up, isn't it?

2385
02:35:35,350 --> 02:35:37,290
Right now it's going across the street.

2386
02:35:37,490 --> 02:35:38,830
It's going to pick up whatever the street.

2387
02:35:39,210 --> 02:35:41,910
It goes in the end like it's captured in this boat.

2388
02:35:42,190 --> 02:35:42,730
Water quality.

2389
02:35:43,270 --> 02:35:43,630
It's been for it.

2390
02:35:43,810 --> 02:35:44,890
It's over to 10 minutes.

2391
02:35:45,010 --> 02:35:45,230
Yes.

2392
02:35:45,530 --> 02:35:46,990
So, yeah.

2393
02:35:47,590 --> 02:35:50,230
I mean, from flooding standpoint, like if anything,

2394
02:35:50,450 --> 02:35:51,630
I think it speeds up the water.

2395
02:35:52,090 --> 02:35:52,990
But the, yes, the contaminant.

2396
02:35:53,030 --> 02:35:54,730
The larger two, Jim, correct.

2397
02:35:56,090 --> 02:35:57,210
This is a bit like a little larger.

2398
02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:59,270
It's all the new foot there, so it's okay.

2399
02:36:01,770 --> 02:36:04,690
You're right now it just turns as you would into a creep.

2400
02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:57,440
Did the water go over the curb before the houses were built or was it the curb cut from the driveway that's causing the issue?

2401
02:36:57,600 --> 02:36:59,160
I think that's making the worst but we

2402
02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:13,120
did okay.

2403
02:37:13,720 --> 02:37:14,440
I did.

2404
02:37:14,480 --> 02:37:15,500
But it didn't go over.

2405
02:37:16,220 --> 02:37:16,580
It didn't.

2406
02:37:16,740 --> 02:37:18,160
It doesn't go over the curb.

2407
02:37:18,220 --> 02:37:19,440
It goes down the curb cut.

2408
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:19,980
This issue.

2409
02:37:19,980 --> 02:37:20,480
in a lot

2410
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:25,040
with this last.

2411
02:37:31,300 --> 02:37:37,780
Well, now like, this new pipe we're putting in to help with the flooding, how long will this

2412
02:37:37,780 --> 02:37:41,320
this last? I mean, how much was the maintenance? Yes.

2413
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:51,780
Do we have to replace this like after how many years will we have to replace this pipe?

2414
02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:18,130
So, so an additional 42,000 is not a problem.

2415
02:38:19,130 --> 02:38:24,350
I'm sorry. Mary, one more question for the like Dennis for. Does does this help us with that at all?

2416
02:38:24,470 --> 02:38:30,250
Like I know with with that not over, you know, bringing all the sediment from the street and contaminants.

2417
02:38:30,470 --> 02:38:32,650
That's probably will it give us any credits?

2418
02:38:32,650 --> 02:38:33,110
I think

2419
02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:39,900
we've done on the creek with putting in all the paintings

2420
02:38:39,900 --> 02:38:42,260
because that's where they're going to go out and maintain them.

2421
02:38:43,440 --> 02:38:44,580
You know, they're very popular.

2422
02:38:44,580 --> 02:38:46,900
It was playing there along there and it was on that as well.

2423
02:38:47,180 --> 02:38:47,860
And that does help.

2424
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:48,540
Right.

2425
02:38:48,760 --> 02:38:55,420
But there's this, like, can we use this as a water quality improvement thing?

2426
02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:57,520
Because it kind of does.

2427
02:38:57,940 --> 02:38:58,840
That's your speaker.

2428
02:38:59,800 --> 02:39:01,140
If you look at it.

2429
02:39:15,530 --> 02:39:18,050
Any other comments or questions from Council?

2430
02:39:19,900 --> 02:39:25,220
Are there any comments or comments from the public on the rest of the findings and planning agenda?

2431
02:40:17,270 --> 02:40:20,830
Are there any energy dissipators at the outfall?

2432
02:40:28,900 --> 02:40:30,120
Yeah, the plans here,

2433
02:40:32,230 --> 02:40:33,770
but it's been a while since I looked at it closely.

2434
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:42,270
Yeah, if part of this design is to avoid erosion at one part of the creek, we're not going to design it to cause more erosion at another pentacryte.

2435
02:40:44,020 --> 02:40:49,000
And there's standards for that, like if you'll calculate the velocity in the flow and you can't exceed a certain amount.

2436
02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:53,480
So, all right. Any other comments from the public? Allison?

2437
02:40:53,920 --> 02:40:54,020
I'm

2438
02:41:10,380 --> 02:41:16,520
not really wise to be adding a 92-year residential property that we are having

2439
02:41:16,520 --> 02:41:22,460
such serious issues that, you know, we need to now be asked to go to the sewer line.

2440
02:41:22,800 --> 02:41:29,080
You know, I mean, I'm no very doubt question, and we've talked about this all the time.

2441
02:41:29,220 --> 02:41:30,220
I'm glad it's come up.

2442
02:41:30,220 --> 02:41:34,540
Right now that had primarily concrete, there is no default.

2443
02:41:35,260 --> 02:41:37,880
What they're putting in will actually put control of it.

2444
02:41:38,060 --> 02:41:40,100
It's going to be basins, but I have to check the lines,

2445
02:41:40,280 --> 02:41:41,960
or going to have to put in different lines,

2446
02:41:42,260 --> 02:41:45,040
will be a collection system there will now work not there.

2447
02:41:45,420 --> 02:41:48,920
But the 90s, but the units are, is not quite the distance,

2448
02:41:49,880 --> 02:41:52,800
you know, obviously the usage is in the problem,

2449
02:41:53,220 --> 02:41:56,700
which are, you know, no problem meeting the demands for the order of the store.

2450
02:41:56,900 --> 02:41:59,160
So it's just like you read the letters, it's just a question.

2451
02:41:59,780 --> 02:42:09,920
And this, with as far as flooding goes, this will actually have a facility there that's going to hold some of this water once they have to collect it all right now, they're not blocking anything.

2452
02:42:10,860 --> 02:42:18,040
The state mares, I mean, that was a big discussion and it was a very much green, but when the ground's wet and saturated, it's not blocking anything.

2453
02:42:18,420 --> 02:42:21,980
Now each one of their tons has a structure that holds that water.

2454
02:42:22,900 --> 02:42:25,160
So in some ways it doesn't make it better.

2455
02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:29,840
I'm not a big fan of that unless you use the work, but it does help.

2456
02:42:32,510 --> 02:42:32,930
Great.

2457
02:42:33,810 --> 02:42:35,110
That is my report.

2458
02:42:36,530 --> 02:42:36,690
South.

2459
02:42:38,370 --> 02:42:38,370
I

2460
02:42:44,740 --> 02:42:46,260
don't know if I'm going to do it.

2461
02:42:46,760 --> 02:42:49,380
I'm going to do it.

2462
02:42:49,840 --> 02:42:51,620
I'm going to do it.

2463
02:42:51,860 --> 02:42:52,320
I'm going to do it.

2464
02:42:52,580 --> 02:42:52,580
That

2465
02:42:58,240 --> 02:42:59,900
is my report.

2466
02:43:00,140 --> 02:43:00,920
And then recommendations.

2467
02:43:01,460 --> 02:43:02,040
The committee moves.

2468
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:09,680
And I, like me, Ms. Nairakman, that we pay the May 2023 bills in the amount of $2,036,830

2469
02:43:09,680 --> 02:43:10,920
in 30 cents.

2470
02:43:12,080 --> 02:43:12,520
Second.

2471
02:43:13,240 --> 02:43:13,940
All of favor?

2472
02:43:14,280 --> 02:43:14,520
Hi.

2473
02:43:14,860 --> 02:43:16,840
Any book?

2474
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:21,420
So if number three, do we need a monetary amount in there?

2475
02:43:21,640 --> 02:43:23,360
Or can I just, for the recommendation?

2476
02:43:24,380 --> 02:43:25,100
Oh, sorry.

2477
02:43:25,140 --> 02:43:25,800
For the edgewood.

2478
02:43:25,800 --> 02:43:26,460
Do you have more to it?

2479
02:43:27,040 --> 02:43:27,340
Okay.

2480
02:43:28,360 --> 02:43:33,660
The committee, Ms. Nairakman, that we avoid the bid for the edgewood.

2481
02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:35,520
would drive storm pipe grant.

2482
02:43:35,820 --> 02:43:35,960
Second.

2483
02:43:36,560 --> 02:43:37,160
On paper.

2484
02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:38,180
All right.

2485
02:43:38,360 --> 02:43:38,620
I'm

2486
02:43:43,800 --> 02:43:45,560
going to go to the public safety.

2487
02:43:46,060 --> 02:43:46,160
Yeah.

2488
02:43:46,160 --> 02:43:48,480
The committee will make no recommendations.

2489
02:43:49,340 --> 02:43:51,300
The following business was discussed.

2490
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:53,960
The police department report is attached.

2491
02:43:54,480 --> 02:43:56,920
The community ambulance report is attached.

2492
02:43:57,780 --> 02:44:00,540
The fire department report will be provided.

2493
02:44:00,980 --> 02:44:04,760
The public works and the code enforcement reports were received.

2494
02:44:04,760 --> 02:44:11,980
The Amber Burrow Police Department has received a shipment of steering wheel locks for Hyundai and Kia vehicles

2495
02:44:11,980 --> 02:44:21,080
This is due to the increase of vehicle thefts. If you are a Burrow resident and have a Hyundai or Kia police come to the police station

2496
02:44:24,760 --> 02:44:26,680
We don't have a day

2497
02:44:26,680 --> 02:44:30,400
We don't have a day

2498
02:44:30,400 --> 02:44:35,760
Oh, wow, all right, I want to ask a question from committee.

2499
02:44:36,140 --> 02:44:43,200
Sorry, I do not to prolong it, but I saw, there was some, a couple of jumps.

2500
02:44:43,800 --> 02:44:49,360
She just didn't know what was, is it just summer, people are out.

2501
02:44:50,140 --> 02:44:54,800
We had some jumps in public safety calls, we had some jumps in suspicious seconds.

2502
02:45:00,740 --> 02:45:08,220
Is this related to the cars and the, is that all kind of part of this, sir?

2503
02:45:09,500 --> 02:45:15,940
Summers out, people are out. Yep. Is that a normal uptick that we, yeah.

2504
02:45:16,600 --> 02:45:20,220
Okay. So when make sure there wasn't some less crazy going on.

2505
02:45:20,220 --> 02:45:25,040
I'm not really gonna add no.

2506
02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:26,440
No problem.

2507
02:45:27,200 --> 02:45:28,860
Yeah, we're not there yet.

2508
02:45:28,940 --> 02:45:29,680
So close.

2509
02:45:30,580 --> 02:45:31,820
Um, council.

2510
02:45:33,080 --> 02:45:35,360
And then I see the other big,

2511
02:45:35,440 --> 02:45:39,340
what I guess just again, people out the same stuff.

2512
02:45:39,800 --> 02:45:43,260
Just seemed like the violation and some of the stuff was way up for me,

2513
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:44,920
but I guess we're out of hibernation.

2514
02:45:45,080 --> 02:45:46,580
Who do you do a lot of, who is

2515
02:45:55,480 --> 02:45:56,360
great?

2516
02:45:57,000 --> 02:45:57,280
Awesome.

2517
02:45:57,460 --> 02:45:58,280
Thank you.

2518
02:45:59,340 --> 02:45:59,800
Thank you.

2519
02:45:59,800 --> 02:46:08,070
All right, so I don't think that's okay, okay, so that's helping. Perfect, where will he be?

2520
02:46:09,140 --> 02:46:11,600
Like just all around? Yeah, where will he be

2521
02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:21,320
at? Okay, so speeding, not, not people that speed, but cars that speed, but problems will be a test, right?

2522
02:46:21,660 --> 02:46:32,180
You get my inside job. Yeah, so that is good to know. All right, so I just want to make sure there wasn't some uptick somewhere that was

2523
02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:35,360
I've all stuff, just nervous stuff, thank you.

2524
02:46:37,970 --> 02:46:38,130
Public?

2525
02:46:39,150 --> 02:46:40,070
Anybody have a comment?

2526
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:41,250
Excuse me.

2527
02:46:41,950 --> 02:46:42,210
Excuse me.

2528
02:46:42,270 --> 02:46:43,150
Excuse me.

2529
02:46:43,690 --> 02:46:44,550
Excuse me.

2530
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:44,870
Yeah.

2531
02:46:45,350 --> 02:46:48,270
Public of that period is just for items that are on to my agenda.

2532
02:46:48,450 --> 02:46:50,990
At the very end of the meeting, we'll take public comment on it.

2533
02:46:51,150 --> 02:46:51,670
Oh, it wasn't.

2534
02:46:52,050 --> 02:46:53,030
Thank you.

2535
02:46:56,170 --> 02:46:56,350
Thank you.

2536
02:46:56,350 --> 02:46:57,190
That's our report.

2537
02:46:57,570 --> 02:46:58,770
Thank you.

2538
02:46:58,890 --> 02:46:59,270
Okay.

2539
02:46:59,650 --> 02:47:00,010
Up next.

2540
02:47:00,370 --> 02:47:00,690
Public utilities.

2541
02:47:01,230 --> 02:47:02,350
Oh, Haley's back.

2542
02:47:03,330 --> 02:47:05,170
Committee will make no recommendations.

2543
02:47:05,950 --> 02:47:07,490
The following business was discussed.

2544
02:47:08,150 --> 02:47:11,010
Number one, the wastewater treatment plant engineer's report was provided.

2545
02:47:11,390 --> 02:47:15,690
Number two, the solicitor is working on the lease renewal for T-Mobile Houston Road.

2546
02:47:17,950 --> 02:47:18,650
Any questions?

2547
02:47:18,830 --> 02:47:19,670
Come as from the committee?

2548
02:47:20,390 --> 02:47:20,710
Council?

2549
02:47:21,650 --> 02:47:21,990
Public.

2550
02:47:23,110 --> 02:47:23,350
All right.

2551
02:47:23,450 --> 02:47:24,150
That's my report.

2552
02:47:26,010 --> 02:47:28,370
The committee will make no recommendations.

2553
02:47:29,190 --> 02:47:30,850
The following business was discussed.

2554
02:47:30,850 --> 02:47:36,230
Number one, a presentation from Bird Town PA was made by Tom Voter from Whistick and Trails

2555
02:47:36,230 --> 02:47:38,430
and Heidi Shiver from Bird Town PA.

2556
02:47:38,830 --> 02:47:43,990
The committee will research program options and I think we're just going to table this discussion

2557
02:47:43,990 --> 02:47:45,990
for next month.

2558
02:47:46,090 --> 02:47:47,490
That's all right with everyone.

2559
02:47:48,110 --> 02:47:53,690
I think it's a great idea and we can talk more in detail, but it's almost done.

2560
02:47:54,310 --> 02:47:56,330
Any questions from my committee?

2561
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:58,710
I have a question.

2562
02:47:59,450 --> 02:48:08,410
When can we put back on the agenda the concept of having dogs be leashed under control dogs be allowed in our burrow parks?

2563
02:48:08,410 --> 02:48:16,730
Yeah, okay, it's soon like August, like not the next being, but like August September timeframe.

2564
02:48:17,130 --> 02:48:24,050
I think maybe not in the maybe not August because people don't like, you know, hot topics in the summer.

2565
02:48:24,050 --> 02:48:29,450
Okay. But maybe September. Okay. I think that's a great time to bring it back.

2566
02:48:29,490 --> 02:48:34,010
All we chat to and I'm going to share the only reason I'm saying that if you have two developments

2567
02:48:34,010 --> 02:48:38,350
large coming in for a moment. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. No, it's fine.

2568
02:48:38,490 --> 02:48:43,250
So I just think space and think they also maybe were looking it up over.

2569
02:48:43,710 --> 02:48:45,990
Okay. Okay. And that will give you a time for the next summer.

2570
02:48:46,850 --> 02:48:49,690
I'm going to get it. I was like, moving in the otherwise.

2571
02:48:50,090 --> 02:48:52,470
All right. Thank you.

2572
02:48:54,680 --> 02:48:56,660
Maybe next meeting, no, I'm just kidding.

2573
02:48:57,500 --> 02:48:59,640
I like trying to push it off, I just don't want to do this.

2574
02:48:59,960 --> 02:49:04,800
And it's not time sensitive and I'm just going to ask people off their dogs and parks.

2575
02:49:05,160 --> 02:49:06,540
Whether they allow it or not.

2576
02:49:06,800 --> 02:49:11,180
Anyway, then the other public comment from council.

2577
02:49:12,060 --> 02:49:13,000
And from the public.

2578
02:49:14,360 --> 02:49:15,580
That is my report.

2579
02:49:18,690 --> 02:49:19,410
Celebration person.

2580
02:49:20,710 --> 02:49:22,030
All right, thank you.

2581
02:49:22,170 --> 02:49:22,430
Thank you.

2582
02:49:22,930 --> 02:49:23,250
Thank you.

2583
02:49:23,790 --> 02:49:24,030
Yes.

2584
02:49:25,130 --> 02:49:30,750
The committee will make no recommendations. The following business will be discussed. Number one,

2585
02:49:31,030 --> 02:49:37,350
below is a list of vacancies for the following appointed positions. Applications welcome,

2586
02:49:37,750 --> 02:49:45,210
come serve your borough. Appeals board, three-year term, one seat. Environmental Advisory Council,

2587
02:49:45,570 --> 02:49:51,090
three-year term, two seats. Human Relations Commission, three-year term, one seat.

2588
02:49:51,090 --> 02:49:58,510
Civil Service Commission alternate, one seat, and zoning hearing board alternates, two seats.

2589
02:49:59,590 --> 02:50:06,090
Number two, the vacant water department operator positions have been accepted by Michael Aristoclas,

2590
02:50:06,830 --> 02:50:09,690
Daniel Fantini, and Stephen Welsh.

2591
02:50:11,170 --> 02:50:18,310
Number three, the vacant, weight, water, mechanic position will be advertised, resumes are being accepted.

2592
02:50:19,270 --> 02:50:26,870
Are there any questions for my committee or from the rest of Council or from the public?

2593
02:50:27,830 --> 02:50:29,170
That is my report.

2594
02:50:35,380 --> 02:50:38,380
Yes, because I was so distracted by the clouds of the beginning of the meeting.

2595
02:50:39,020 --> 02:50:39,520
Arts and music.

2596
02:50:39,680 --> 02:50:40,620
Oh my god.

2597
02:50:40,780 --> 02:50:40,940
Oh my god.

2598
02:50:41,900 --> 02:50:42,380
Yay.

2599
02:50:42,780 --> 02:50:43,260
Yay.

2600
02:50:43,500 --> 02:50:44,320
Thank you.

2601
02:50:44,320 --> 02:50:45,480
So thank you.

2602
02:50:45,860 --> 02:50:46,220
Liz.

2603
02:50:46,580 --> 02:50:47,100
All the means.

2604
02:50:47,100 --> 02:50:55,300
of volunteers, Mary, Marco, Chief, all of the staff and our police departments and all of the

2605
02:50:55,300 --> 02:51:01,020
neighboring police departments and fire police who helped us out, oh my god, what about taking a village,

2606
02:51:01,520 --> 02:51:07,520
and it was an event like no other. You know it's always my most favorite event of the year,

2607
02:51:07,700 --> 02:51:13,740
but I'm telling you this year it was something completely different. You guys just. And I'm sorry I didn't

2608
02:51:13,740 --> 02:51:16,600
so at that tradition in the middle of our earlier so that more

2609
02:51:16,600 --> 02:51:17,660
people can hear it.

2610
02:51:17,840 --> 02:51:18,700
But thank you.

2611
02:51:19,100 --> 02:51:20,140
Thank you.

2612
02:51:20,760 --> 02:51:22,340
That'd be nice for you.

2613
02:51:22,540 --> 02:51:24,540
No, it would be nice.

2614
02:51:24,540 --> 02:51:25,930
No, you're just the cry.

2615
02:51:26,920 --> 02:51:28,660
The cries get in the face.

2616
02:51:29,320 --> 02:51:30,460
Yes, that might cost me crap.

2617
02:51:30,680 --> 02:51:31,920
You want getting that?

2618
02:51:32,260 --> 02:51:33,280
Yeah yeah, thank you.

2619
02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:34,940
Yeah thank you for coming up like this.

2620
02:51:36,260 --> 02:51:37,460
Yeah that was an apology to me as well.

2621
02:51:37,460 --> 02:51:38,620
Yeah, we were so excited about that.

2622
02:51:39,500 --> 02:51:43,400
All right, so then the last on our agenda tonight

2623
02:51:43,400 --> 02:51:47,220
We'll be public comment on anything that was not on tonight's agenda.

2624
02:51:47,580 --> 02:51:48,900
Any public comment tonight?

2625
02:51:49,140 --> 02:51:49,300
Yes.

2626
02:51:49,540 --> 02:51:50,600
There's one more thing.

2627
02:51:52,060 --> 02:51:56,120
All the horrendous parking messages that we have up at the floor to that.

2628
02:51:56,600 --> 02:51:56,800
Yeah.

2629
02:51:57,020 --> 02:51:58,000
Oh, yeah.

2630
02:51:58,640 --> 02:51:59,080
Yeah.

2631
02:51:59,080 --> 02:52:00,860
I'm just very, I didn't want to go on a follow-up.

2632
02:52:00,980 --> 02:52:01,800
And then it's my office.

2633
02:52:02,140 --> 02:52:02,960
You didn't follow-up, right?

2634
02:52:03,540 --> 02:52:04,700
When you should be my source.

2635
02:52:05,000 --> 02:52:06,920
So I've been working on that for a few days.

2636
02:52:08,220 --> 02:52:10,860
There was never parking a way out there for our office.

2637
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:11,440
Thank you.

2638
02:52:12,580 --> 02:52:18,700
The last couple of years, there's parking on both sides, you know, back to the chair of this,

2639
02:52:19,120 --> 02:52:22,040
all of this, you know, that's there.

2640
02:52:22,520 --> 02:52:23,940
Are you feeling the fire thing?

2641
02:52:24,340 --> 02:52:25,260
I'm talking about it.

2642
02:52:25,340 --> 02:52:26,260
I'm talking about it.

2643
02:52:26,260 --> 02:52:26,660
I'm talking about it.

2644
02:52:26,660 --> 02:52:26,860
Yeah.

2645
02:52:27,800 --> 02:52:30,040
They have, well, it's too late.

2646
02:52:30,700 --> 02:52:30,840
Yeah.

2647
02:52:31,580 --> 02:52:31,860
Yeah.

2648
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:34,140
Now, the lane focuses a little more than that.

2649
02:52:34,140 --> 02:52:35,340
That's come up for it.

2650
02:52:35,720 --> 02:52:36,060
Yes.

2651
02:52:37,060 --> 02:52:38,360
I mean, it's all day long.

2652
02:52:38,720 --> 02:52:38,960
Yeah.

2653
02:52:47,080 --> 02:52:51,960
Yeah, they do use it as parking spots as in as well.

2654
02:52:53,380 --> 02:52:55,620
We only have one more in the mind of town.

2655
02:52:55,920 --> 02:52:57,000
That's what the real issue is.

2656
02:52:57,240 --> 02:52:58,320
Super, super busy.

2657
02:52:58,960 --> 02:53:00,160
But that was never.

2658
02:53:00,320 --> 02:53:00,980
I was doing that.

2659
02:53:01,300 --> 02:53:01,960
It's like the.

2660
02:53:02,720 --> 02:53:04,900
And I've never been foreign as a main man.

2661
02:53:05,020 --> 02:53:05,180
Why?

2662
02:53:05,420 --> 02:53:14,280
on that side. Right. Yeah. Eight. Right. I mean, I believe it's. Right.

2663
02:53:14,380 --> 02:53:18,760
But along that strip there, I don't know what it's like.

2664
02:53:22,400 --> 02:53:23,680
It's the whole way for

2665
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:28,900
a sound. Like I want to be used in just a few ways. Right. Now it's more of this

2666
02:53:28,900 --> 02:53:32,100
really because you have one way of working, it's still

2667
02:53:32,100 --> 02:53:34,900
and you have to go out for a few minutes.

2668
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:38,320
Who's burned in the old way, not many aggers,

2669
02:53:38,580 --> 02:53:40,660
or someone will be trying to burn in the old apartment,

2670
02:53:41,020 --> 02:53:42,740
or we'll be to row a car parked there.

2671
02:53:43,040 --> 02:53:46,120
Somebody else is like, they're taking up more and one way

2672
02:53:46,120 --> 02:53:47,920
so now a person can't burn in.

2673
02:53:48,020 --> 02:53:50,280
Like I mean, we just, we're going to speak to the business.

2674
02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:52,500
I think that's the thing.

2675
02:53:53,100 --> 02:53:54,480
I think that's the thing.

2676
02:53:54,820 --> 02:53:57,140
It's the CBS's property.

2677
02:53:57,140 --> 02:53:59,140
I don't know, but I didn't have a kid at the time.

2678
02:53:59,420 --> 02:54:02,000
It's 4-year-understander, and we can't move.

2679
02:54:02,120 --> 02:54:03,060
There's a little bit of them.

2680
02:54:03,240 --> 02:54:04,940
I mean, father's 4-year-understander.

2681
02:54:04,940 --> 02:54:06,040
There's a lot of stuff from here.

2682
02:54:06,640 --> 02:54:07,480
You can fit with them.

2683
02:54:07,860 --> 02:54:10,080
Then you can have areas that don't have a map.

2684
02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:11,500
A 40-year-understander.

2685
02:54:12,840 --> 02:54:14,920
I don't know if you can fit with them.

2686
02:54:15,460 --> 02:54:16,540
They're going very limited.

2687
02:54:17,580 --> 02:54:20,740
Even though they're not legal parking spots.

2688
02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:22,160
It's private coverage.

2689
02:54:22,280 --> 02:54:22,700
Gotcha.

2690
02:54:22,880 --> 02:54:23,840
This is the 4-year-understander.

2691
02:54:24,020 --> 02:54:24,160
Okay.

2692
02:54:24,440 --> 02:54:25,640
So it's up to CBS.

2693
02:54:25,640 --> 02:54:27,580
It's definitely not good off.

2694
02:54:27,600 --> 02:54:30,920
Like a certain width of Edward D.

2695
02:54:31,080 --> 02:54:34,520
He works in Edward's former, and in fact,

2696
02:54:34,780 --> 02:54:37,400
if one lady of heart is taking up their reduced

2697
02:54:37,400 --> 02:54:41,460
that that will be too small, the same will that

2698
02:54:41,460 --> 02:54:44,140
they don't have to do it, but if he's doing it by himself.

2699
02:54:44,660 --> 02:54:45,200
I don't know if you make that.

2700
02:54:46,360 --> 02:54:47,780
I'm not sure if you know what's going to happen.

2701
02:54:47,940 --> 02:54:50,240
I've noticed every time you're on a foreign block there.

2702
02:54:50,700 --> 02:54:52,460
Yeah, I'll tell you what.

2703
02:54:52,640 --> 02:54:54,920
The other day, there was the other day.

2704
02:54:54,920 --> 02:55:00,660
There was a big suburban, I was in my F-150, and I will tell you what, it was a tight squeeze.

2705
02:55:01,700 --> 02:55:06,800
So I would say fire truck, I've seen that too. We're now double-parking.

2706
02:55:07,580 --> 02:55:10,320
Can we take a look at the crosswalk there?

2707
02:55:10,620 --> 02:55:13,100
Yeah, that intersection is already in and down the crosswalk.

2708
02:55:13,100 --> 02:55:18,820
There's a lot of people in the training and there's a crosswalk, maybe we could go to that in detail.

2709
02:55:19,260 --> 02:55:19,980
It's a real crosswalk.

2710
02:55:20,600 --> 02:55:22,000
I think it's crosswalk.

2711
02:55:22,880 --> 02:55:24,580
There's a lot of things for you.

2712
02:55:25,400 --> 02:55:25,760
No doubt.

2713
02:55:25,960 --> 02:55:29,320
But I guess if you guys can maybe, like I said, I think for a bit of a fact,

2714
02:55:29,540 --> 02:55:32,560
it's like, we've whatever we call people.

2715
02:55:34,020 --> 02:55:35,240
There's all ready, of course.

2716
02:55:35,400 --> 02:55:35,740
It's a wish.

2717
02:55:35,940 --> 02:55:36,720
It might be a crosswalk.

2718
02:55:37,180 --> 02:55:38,860
So if I let you know, I'll get a plan.

2719
02:55:39,540 --> 02:55:39,760
Perfect.

2720
02:55:40,180 --> 02:55:42,640
If you see the guys going to learn a little too long.

2721
02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:45,620
Like English remember three, I don't know, we'll see the answer.

2722
02:55:46,040 --> 02:55:46,860
Oh yeah.

2723
02:55:46,860 --> 02:55:47,860
You find their lock.

2724
02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:49,220
You could.

2725
02:55:49,520 --> 02:55:50,640
So would that school where?

2726
02:55:51,620 --> 02:55:52,380
It's a bunch of shit.

2727
02:55:52,740 --> 02:55:53,680
I'm not gonna do that.

2728
02:55:54,480 --> 02:55:54,780
I'm not gonna do that.

2729
02:55:54,780 --> 02:55:55,200
That's the following.

2730
02:55:55,940 --> 02:55:56,580
One thing.

2731
02:55:56,900 --> 02:55:57,240
Hang on.

2732
02:55:57,440 --> 02:55:58,700
Well, my shy appendix.

2733
02:55:58,900 --> 02:55:59,840
The last one.

2734
02:56:00,400 --> 02:56:01,200
You could go for it.

2735
02:56:01,640 --> 02:56:02,180
You can go for it.

2736
02:56:02,320 --> 02:56:05,980
I was going back 10 years ago when I found a program.

2737
02:56:06,220 --> 02:56:06,720
I bought one of that.

2738
02:56:06,900 --> 02:56:07,480
It's my own.

2739
02:56:07,760 --> 02:56:08,700
I got that sign.

2740
02:56:09,220 --> 02:56:11,600
I used to have a sock.

2741
02:56:11,600 --> 02:56:14,000
I saw it in my last block and no parking.

2742
02:56:16,300 --> 02:56:17,740
You know, parking all the time.

2743
02:56:17,780 --> 02:56:19,240
There's not even a hole there, no more.

2744
02:56:19,640 --> 02:56:21,840
Because I was wearing one of my feet that's safe.

2745
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:23,540
I had to wait five, I had to wait five, I had to wait five.

2746
02:56:23,700 --> 02:56:24,100
I had to wait five.

2747
02:56:24,100 --> 02:56:24,540
Yeah.

2748
02:56:25,180 --> 02:56:26,820
There's not even a hole there, no more.

2749
02:56:27,220 --> 02:56:28,080
When they're like, first walkers.

2750
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:29,020
Thank you for doing that.

2751
02:56:29,480 --> 02:56:29,540
Yes.

2752
02:56:30,280 --> 02:56:32,000
There's one, the right me across the street.

2753
02:56:32,240 --> 02:56:34,040
And like I was told, you can't walk.

2754
02:56:34,680 --> 02:56:35,200
It's always moved.

2755
02:56:35,480 --> 02:56:36,720
I was like, I think I'm like,

2756
02:56:36,720 --> 02:56:37,680
I want to see what I'm doing.

2757
02:56:38,500 --> 02:56:38,940
But yeah.

2758
02:56:39,360 --> 02:56:39,900
I'm also hungry.

2759
02:56:39,900 --> 02:56:43,180
But, I hear, you know, it's just, it's free of so good.

2760
02:56:44,040 --> 02:56:45,640
And people slide on that now.

2761
02:56:45,860 --> 02:56:47,480
The Baltimore has a full black face.

2762
02:56:47,980 --> 02:56:48,040
Yes.

2763
02:56:48,040 --> 02:56:50,600
My phone, my presentation is on the floor, right there.

2764
02:56:51,360 --> 02:56:54,340
So, you know, you will follow up for a moment about the interview.

2765
02:56:55,680 --> 02:56:56,100
No.

2766
02:56:56,560 --> 02:56:57,640
I'm not going to go to my house.

2767
02:56:57,840 --> 02:56:58,700
I'm cheating on my house.

2768
02:56:58,840 --> 02:56:59,540
I'm cheating on my house.

2769
02:57:00,220 --> 02:57:01,160
So, I'm cheating on my house.

2770
02:57:01,160 --> 02:57:02,140
I'm not going to go to my house.

2771
02:57:03,580 --> 02:57:05,000
I'm going to go to my house.

2772
02:57:05,220 --> 02:57:05,620
I'm going to go to my house.

2773
02:57:06,280 --> 02:57:09,520
I'm going to go to my house.

2774
02:57:09,900 --> 02:57:10,480
Hold on.

2775
02:57:42,410 --> 02:57:45,210
It starts on time, yes, it on mind's bone, right?

2776
02:57:45,210 --> 02:57:46,790
That is a very heavy bone.

2777
02:57:47,490 --> 02:57:52,190
But I've been really not going to that to that to do that.

2778
02:57:54,190 --> 02:57:55,070
It's totally...

2779
02:57:55,070 --> 02:57:57,210
But then it gets a little bit rude down the pot.

2780
02:57:57,570 --> 02:57:58,850
Yeah, so it's a...

2781
02:57:58,850 --> 02:58:01,690
The pause is thought I mean I've just heard for 15 years,

2782
02:58:02,350 --> 02:58:03,910
so it would be more of a gravity here.

2783
02:58:04,250 --> 02:58:05,810
And it will be no more than that.

2784
02:58:05,810 --> 02:58:11,730
No, used to be just when they were dropping off or picking up, and then they would move, and then they would go park.

2785
02:58:12,270 --> 02:58:16,230
It is within the last six to 12 months, it has gotten bad.

2786
02:58:16,470 --> 02:58:21,090
And now I've noticed that they are, they're parking on the other side, so when you pull into CVS,

2787
02:58:21,210 --> 02:58:25,550
there are bars on both sides for the laundromat and you're squeezing in between.

2788
02:58:26,230 --> 02:58:29,210
So we're going to have to address that.

2789
02:58:30,190 --> 02:58:33,830
And maybe we can add that intersection to a safety.

2790
02:59:06,910 --> 02:59:09,190
And once you're there and you're doing it,

2791
02:59:09,290 --> 02:59:12,530
you have to do it more commonly than you did before we get a press.

2792
02:59:12,770 --> 02:59:14,290
But we'll be focused on seeing it.

2793
02:59:14,410 --> 02:59:15,330
You can put your safety and partner.

2794
02:59:15,650 --> 02:59:15,890
Yeah.

2795
02:59:15,890 --> 02:59:17,090
And maybe if they were, you know,

2796
02:59:17,230 --> 02:59:18,330
why did your company do that?

2797
02:59:18,330 --> 02:59:18,530
Yeah.

2798
02:59:18,750 --> 02:59:21,370
And you know, working there with the DMZ and that.

2799
02:59:21,650 --> 02:59:22,310
And you can do that.

2800
02:59:23,050 --> 02:59:23,810
15 minutes.

2801
02:59:23,850 --> 02:59:25,770
Once you're like, we'll donate a sign.

2802
02:59:26,230 --> 02:59:27,410
Again, it's lifted in as well.

2803
02:59:28,050 --> 02:59:28,770
Just for this.

2804
02:59:28,770 --> 02:59:28,970
Yeah.

2805
02:59:28,970 --> 02:59:30,190
I don't mean if everyone can,

2806
02:59:30,590 --> 02:59:31,390
or you're, you know,

2807
02:59:31,390 --> 02:59:32,390
you're all back to that apartment.

2808
02:59:32,390 --> 02:59:41,170
and the very way you're over it is a drug show and you can get it to it all you have to try to mix it.

2809
02:59:41,170 --> 02:59:44,410
You can never think about it about it.

2810
02:59:44,490 --> 02:59:49,470
But when you'll come here and you'll tell a whole of others and people are sitting there and they'll allergic.

2811
02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:50,130
Yes.

2812
02:59:50,530 --> 02:59:51,850
Cause they want to turn into people.

2813
02:59:52,250 --> 02:59:54,770
I think I think I'll tell you if a drug...

2814
02:59:54,770 --> 02:59:57,110
But that's a limited edition and they rule out.

2815
02:59:57,310 --> 02:59:58,710
That's the best thing to have to do with it.

2816
03:00:11,900 --> 03:00:15,700
Is there any other public comment tonight?

2817
03:00:15,700 --> 03:00:21,900
I will be exceptionally grateful to your all-tire and thank you for being here to make it great to introduce you to your research.

2818
03:00:22,220 --> 03:00:27,300
So I would just say, to more you, to please focus on 200 walk-in walks per third.

2819
03:00:27,880 --> 03:00:29,600
We have exceptional rates to speak.

2820
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:33,140
I'm talking about semi-sailing down 65 miles per hour.

2821
03:00:34,100 --> 03:00:34,440
Good.

2822
03:00:34,720 --> 03:00:35,620
I'm not exaggerating.

2823
03:00:35,680 --> 03:00:39,500
I have video footage to show you exactly what I'm talking about.

2824
03:00:39,740 --> 03:00:44,180
But we have ended breaking, take it a turn with maniacs.

2825
03:00:44,180 --> 03:00:46,160
and there's a huge drug activity happening here.

2826
03:00:46,500 --> 03:00:48,560
It's really just becoming a rough spot to be

2827
03:00:48,560 --> 03:00:50,720
not the place we bought 12 years ago.

2828
03:00:51,280 --> 03:00:53,060
And there are a lot of young families living in

2829
03:00:53,060 --> 03:00:55,800
and it's really heartbreaking to think that's how to run.

2830
03:00:57,360 --> 03:00:58,320
Thank you.

2831
03:00:58,440 --> 03:00:59,540
Thank you for bringing that.

2832
03:00:59,720 --> 03:01:00,360
What I've heard from you.

2833
03:01:00,760 --> 03:01:01,400
Thank you.

2834
03:01:01,400 --> 03:01:02,380
How does it end?

2835
03:01:02,560 --> 03:01:04,140
Just one of the clarifies.

2836
03:01:04,640 --> 03:01:06,620
So it sounds like the recent ordinance is going to be

2837
03:01:06,620 --> 03:01:07,780
revised on someone.

2838
03:01:08,400 --> 03:01:09,860
Yeah, we're still working on it.

2839
03:01:10,000 --> 03:01:10,720
It should be weak.

2840
03:01:10,720 --> 03:01:12,440
Spectacles, this will be discussed at the next meeting.

2841
03:01:12,680 --> 03:01:14,020
And I'm only asking because as we

2842
03:01:14,020 --> 03:01:15,640
I'll send everyone from vacation, I mean,

2843
03:01:15,760 --> 03:01:17,460
I'll come home with a beach to be here for this.

2844
03:01:17,660 --> 03:01:19,780
So like when you expect like a draft ordinance

2845
03:01:19,780 --> 03:01:21,800
and the advance of next meeting or the public,

2846
03:01:21,800 --> 03:01:22,420
they go a while.

2847
03:01:22,540 --> 03:01:24,820
So the plan is that Joe's going to make the changes

2848
03:01:24,820 --> 03:01:29,040
that we've discussed tonight and at that next meeting

2849
03:01:29,040 --> 03:01:32,580
we'll have a revised ordinance to look at.

2850
03:01:32,740 --> 03:01:38,620
And it would be possible that we could vote to advertise it

2851
03:01:38,620 --> 03:01:39,720
at the next meeting.

2852
03:01:39,760 --> 03:01:40,720
That would be great.

2853
03:01:41,060 --> 03:01:44,000
Right, not to adopt it, but vote to advertise it.

2854
03:01:44,000 --> 03:01:50,180
It's also possible we might not vote, you know, I can't really say how to make this go.

2855
03:01:50,360 --> 03:01:54,260
That when the agenda is released, that the revised draft will be available, that's hard.

2856
03:01:54,880 --> 03:02:02,500
It'll be part of the, if not part of the agenda, the draft ordinances are always posted on.

2857
03:02:03,140 --> 03:02:06,320
Is it on the calendar announcement page or the news page?

2858
03:02:06,340 --> 03:02:07,080
It's just the latest.

2859
03:02:07,080 --> 03:02:12,980
Yes, the last time it will do it will be part of it somewhere and always have it in there

2860
03:02:12,980 --> 03:02:16,520
It's one of the south up little dog groups still working on it. So wasn't at least

2861
03:02:16,520 --> 03:02:22,880
We knew there wasn't a boat so right right in terms, but it will be posted but it was posted 24 hours before the meeting

2862
03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:24,760
We will always do that. Yeah

2863
03:02:53,400 --> 03:02:53,800
I'm sorry.

2864
03:02:53,800 --> 03:02:56,200
I'm so sorry.

2865
03:02:56,500 --> 03:02:56,680
I'm so sorry.

2866
03:02:56,680 --> 03:02:57,460
I, I thought we were finished.

2867
03:02:57,600 --> 03:02:58,600
I'm sorry, thank you, Stowe.

2868
03:02:59,080 --> 03:02:59,260
I was

2869
03:03:17,470 --> 03:03:17,970
so, I was so hard.

2870
03:03:27,730 --> 03:03:28,290
I think your.

2871
03:03:32,160 --> 03:03:32,320
You're here.

2872
03:03:32,320 --> 03:03:33,180
Can I have a fight with you?

2873
03:03:33,300 --> 03:03:34,020
I'm trying to run that.

2874
03:03:34,140 --> 03:03:35,060
We have a whole sake.

2875
03:03:35,660 --> 03:03:36,840
We have a whole plan.

2876
03:03:37,400 --> 03:03:38,980
We have work through the beach.

2877
03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:40,040
I like pictures.

2878
03:03:40,400 --> 03:03:41,500
I like the tree.

2879
03:03:41,780 --> 03:03:42,020
Straight on a shot.

2880
03:03:42,380 --> 03:03:43,020
There were a couple.

2881
03:03:43,040 --> 03:03:43,880
Did she have a couple?

2882
03:03:44,220 --> 03:03:45,180
She don't touch that.

2883
03:03:55,240 --> 03:04:01,960
Thank you for your comments and your concerns about safety. Is there any other public comment this evening?

2884
03:04:03,060 --> 03:04:07,200
All right. Well then, thank you all for coming. We'll see you July 18th meeting adjourned.