1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,240 And then finally, Senate and Chris Bes is in his place. He came by. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:11,360 » I'm going to call the meeting. Uh, August 11th 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,759 EDA meeting to order. >> Looks like we have a quorum. Eric, could 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:20,240 you call the role, please? >> Yes, sir. Bob Smith, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:25,519 » yep. Here. >> Robert, 6 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:29,199 » here. Gorge here. Lawson Roberts here. >> Bond here. Tatum. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:36,200 St. Mary's >> here. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,200 Stand by for invitation and pledge. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Lord, we thank you for this day. We thank you for the opportunity to come 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:50,399 meet and betterment of the county. Ask blessings 11 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:56,480 on everyone here. Lord, we just uh give you praise and honor. Amen. 12 00:00:53,039 --> 00:01:01,520 » Amen. And we do the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United 13 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:07,680 States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:11,479 God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. For all 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:23,280 you make uh first of all, I want to welcome Dexter 16 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:27,439 to our meeting. Eric, did you you met David? 17 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:32,720 » Yes. >> Yep. 18 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:39,600 So, uh approve or amend the agenda. I have one item to to uh put in the agenda 19 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:45,520 be uh after new business. It'll be the EDA 101 that Dave is here to present. 20 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Want to make sure we get it on the tape so if anybody has to leave early, they 21 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:55,520 can uh watch it at their leisure. And without objection, we'll put that in 22 00:01:53,680 --> 00:02:01,759 there. Consent agenda. 23 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:05,560 The minutes. Anybody uh have any uh corrections to the minutes? 24 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:17,520 » Passed out the uh under the finance report. are passed out the 25 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:21,840 the LGIP statement for the uh Union County 26 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,720 EDA. We have $784,1556, 27 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:37,760 but uh that's back in July 31st. We haven't closed the the 28 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:41,120 year yet. That's my understanding. So, I think there's some bills that haven't 29 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:46,400 been that have been paid but haven't didn't show up on here. So, uh, I talked 30 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:52,160 to Stephanie about that the other day. She's working actually on that, 31 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:56,560 but the stuff we get from the county, uh, really doesn't have any meaning for 32 00:02:54,319 --> 00:03:01,440 us. We, uh, we operate out of this account. 33 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:09,239 And I bring that because later on we're going to be approving the, uh, 34 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,239 application for 35 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:18,159 the grant from the back of commission. and we have to put up some money for 36 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:22,440 that. So, uh, any questions about the the financial amendments? 37 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,920 » Not. I'll entertain a motion to approve 38 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:35,200 both. >> I approve. Accepted. Minute. 39 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:39,680 » Motion. Thank you. Second. Second. >> Second. Go ahead. Second. You weren't 40 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:45,120 here last. All >> in favor? I I 41 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:49,200 » oppose like sign. Thank you. Have any public comments? 42 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Dexter, you got anything? Any wisdom you want to give us? 43 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,319 » No. >> When it comes to wisdom, no. 44 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:05,599 » All right. Mia County Regional Commerce Park update. 45 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:08,959 Uh, I was going to have Neil do that, but since we can't hear him, I'll I'll 46 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:16,799 take that. >> Can you hear? move forward with uh 47 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:20,799 the road entrance road design. I still have problems with understanding 48 00:04:19,359 --> 00:04:28,080 why that's going to take eight months to do. You ride right up uh 360 and the new 49 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:32,160 uh entrance they just put off on the north side. That's exactly what they're 50 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:36,960 going to put on an hour. So, looks like to me you just flip it. Yeah. 51 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:41,600 » He wants to do that then it has to be approved. 52 00:04:38,479 --> 00:04:45,440 Be that. What is it? It's going to be a good year, I think, before we see any 53 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:51,360 any. You probably rode by there, noticed that 54 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:55,440 uh they're paving 360 and they're parking their vehicles over their 55 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,320 property. >> They were nice enough to open the gate, 56 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,600 go through the gate instead of going over. So, 57 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,680 » I don't have have any idea how much longer that's going to be. Like I told 58 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,440 the board of supervisors, when you see the the equipment out there, don't get 59 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:15,440 all excited. We're not we're not ready to go in there and put the interior 60 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:20,720 roads in yet. You know, the the back of commission grant for the 61 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:27,360 well update that's going to be uh we plan to do three wells and three 62 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:33,280 different locations in the property. It's uh we're going to apply for the 63 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:38,960 grant for uh tobacco commission. It's they're going to supply $192,000 and 64 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:45,039 we're going to supply $192,000. That's why I wanted you to see the LGIP 65 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:49,720 statement. We have the money. It's not a problem. And uh 66 00:05:54,080 --> 00:06:01,520 we have a draft resolution in here for the board of supervisors. We're not sure 67 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:09,120 whether we'll need it for the uh for the back of company grant back 68 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:14,400 the back of commission grant. Uh but uh 69 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:18,720 it's always good to have resolution from the board of supervisors 70 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:24,400 when you apply for a grant. So we have that ready for their August uh September 71 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:30,600 meeting, August meeting. And uh so if we need it, 72 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:30,600 we have it. 73 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,520 That's all I have for the 74 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Commerce Park. And we talked about the tobacco commission grant 75 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:53,360 and the draft resolution. GBC building update. That's still moving 76 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:58,639 along very slowly. I'm sure Sam would tell you very slowly. 77 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:03,880 uh still on our plate. Hopefully in the next month or so we'll 78 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,880 have something for you. 79 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:14,800 » Uh Gap Alliance, we had a meeting on the 28th of July. 80 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:21,440 » We've uh come a long way. David's here to uh he's part of the rural resilience 81 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:27,599 advisors. He and Liz put that together and here the 82 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:32,240 umbrella we've gone through to uh have our redo our regional economic 83 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:37,360 development organization we've decided on a name which is gap 84 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:42,639 allowance alliance if you look at the map for uh 85 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:46,880 state of Virginia Powan and Amelia we're in white 86 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:52,319 everybody else was affiliated so now we're affiliated they this already told 87 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:56,520 us they're good to redraw that map and put us in there. So that'd be 88 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:09,599 » we decided to get the the design firm to work on a logo for us. They proposed to 89 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:14,240 come up with six different logos for $150 90 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:19,039 and uh we can choose the one. I'm sure we're getting 91 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:25,680 pretty close to that now. So uh all these figures I'm giving you 92 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:33,440 are uh are max figure I mean the total divided by three. So cost is $50 for 93 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:40,479 that uh website design that uh price came down from our meeting. So now $650 94 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:45,200 with free hosting for the first year and $99 a year after that if we wanted to 95 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:53,080 keep hosting. So that uh 96 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,080 that's $650 for the medium. 97 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,480 Establish a URL www.gapallianceverirginia.com. 98 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:09,519 We thank David for that. Not been populated yet, I don't think 99 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:13,120 last time I was there, but it's there. Uh we're going to have an in-person 100 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:20,240 meeting on September the 2nd with the Virginia BEDP in Richmond. Uh each one 101 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,640 of the counties is going to have a little time to talk about what's going 102 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:29,519 on in their county. We Neil was nice enough to put together three slides for 103 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:33,600 us. And uh I looked at those last night. It looks pretty good. 104 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:39,519 And the only thing it's going to cost us down there is lunch. And uh I don't know 105 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:47,640 how much that's $25 to $35 a piece. And there' be two of us for a million. So 106 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:47,640 $70 maybe. Can't imag $70. 107 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:57,279 Um I got a thing down here on finances and 108 00:09:53,200 --> 00:10:02,240 $50 for the logo, 650 for the web, a total of $700. 109 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:08,959 when we uh agreed to join the U 110 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:13,279 redo, I took that as tested approval that we knew there was going to be some 111 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:19,839 startup cost and that's why I went ahead and and told her we we pay our fair 112 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:24,480 share for that and I don't know if you want to put a limit on what I can do on 113 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:29,200 my own or you just want to trust me that I'm not going to spend all your money 114 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:34,640 but uh you don't have to decide that today. I can't imagine anything coming 115 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:39,680 up that would be too expensive. 116 00:10:36,959 --> 00:10:43,240 Fact the startup is is the only cost we've talked about. 117 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:51,279 Really excited about what we've done so far. If we all 118 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:57,279 remember when we were talking about the heritage thing out of 119 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:00,959 Farmville, it was I don't think they've still done a whole 120 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:07,360 lot of stuff, but a whole lot cheaper. At least 30, but I 121 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:11,279 don't think we've ever gotten this done. We've got six people on the 122 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:16,079 board of directors and I don't think they have 21. 123 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,519 But that's a report. Anybody have any questions about that? 124 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:27,160 you do anytime, just uh give me a call, send me a text. 125 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,079 Any new business? 126 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:40,320 All right, we'll move on to EDA 101 with Mr. Denny. Where would you like to 127 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:43,920 stand? Are you going to put something up on the board? 128 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,240 » I think I've got a slideshow. >> Okay. 129 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:50,640 » I've been sitting in a car too long, so I'm going to stand up. location. 130 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:54,600 » Well, I'm going to move down there so I can see that. 131 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:06,480 » Okay, put that there. >> Um, well, first of all, thank you for 132 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:12,639 letting me do this. This is uh kind of fun as if I don't often get to uh to 133 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:17,440 educate anybody or work with anybody on new stuff. So, uh this is kind of fun. 134 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Uh, and I appreciate that and thanks for showing up uh, today. Uh, 135 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:27,760 just a little bit of my background, just so you know, I didn't fall off the truck 136 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:34,560 out of town. >> Um, I am a native of Danville, Virginia. 137 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:38,800 Born and raised in Danville. And um, my dad was a banker, local banker. My mom 138 00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:44,000 was a housekeeper until we went to college and she figured she better go to 139 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:48,000 work, keep us in Washington and Lee. So she did and she worked uh for Damble 140 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:52,079 Concrete Products which was Danny Marshall's uh operations mom and dad we 141 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:56,240 actually grew up together and so she worked with them in bookkeeping for a 142 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:00,720 number of years and I went off to college and got a degree in geology of 143 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:05,600 all things and then got a master's degree from Tennessee University of 144 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:09,040 Tennessee and ended up in business. I was actually working for a gold company, 145 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:12,160 an exploration company because a lot of people don't know that all the gold 146 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:17,040 before the strikes out in cattle, California in the 1800s came from this 147 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:21,120 belt from Delana, Georgia all the way up to Co Pepper, Virginia. It's called the 148 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:24,959 Carolina slate belt. So, we were going in looking at a lot of the old gold 149 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:29,200 claims. And my job was to go out in the field and do testing and take samples 150 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:32,160 and stuff and try to avoid snakes because there was a bunch of them where 151 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,399 I was working. you get out of the get out of the truck with your snake 152 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,440 leggings and you could hear pop pop. So, and I hate snakes, but you know, I had 153 00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:43,519 to live with them. So, I did that for a while. Ended up in business and worked 154 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:48,959 for engineering and architectural firms for about 20 years, 22 years in 155 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:52,160 different marketing roles, but also as a senior project manager. I worked on 156 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:55,839 infrastructure projects and site development projects and that kind of 157 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:00,000 thing. But I always had this love and fascination about economic development. 158 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,160 So I started we were living in Blackburg, Virginia. We lived there for 159 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:09,360 22 years. And I just got tired of of of being the 160 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:12,240 overhead in a in a firm that every time the economy turned down a little bit, 161 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:16,240 they'd say, "Well, you're overhead. Won't you get out of here?" So I decided 162 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:19,440 I wanted to a work in economic development and two work for myself. So 163 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,000 that way I could look in the mirror and yell at the boss all day and not get 164 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:28,399 fired. But maybe not. So uh that's what I did 24 years ago. started my own 165 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:33,839 economic development and small business practice, just consulting work, and had 166 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:38,160 the opportunity um for 12 years to work with a a regional actually a southeast 167 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:43,360 regional economic development organization called Sanford Holdouser 168 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Economic Development. And we did the whole gamut of of pretty large projects 169 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:51,199 uh in economic development, including site location work for companies, 170 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:57,279 especially foreign companies that were looking for a domestic uh location. Um 171 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:02,320 but again I got restless with that and I'd known Liz Povar and many of you know 172 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:07,199 Liz. I'd known Liz Povar for probably 30 some years and we had started working 173 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:11,519 together because she started her own she left VDP and we started working together 174 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:16,959 doing some c consulting work and we both had this feeling and this this desire 175 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:22,079 and that was we want to work with rural localities and economic development 176 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:25,279 because as you know rural areas and urban areas have the same desire when it 177 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:31,040 comes to economic development. You want to create jobs and opportunity 178 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:37,199 investment. The difference is capacity. And so what we try to do is to work uh 179 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:43,600 with our rural areas in particular, but adjust our uh our fees and adjust our um 180 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:48,320 fill in with uh with with your your staffing and that type of thing to add 181 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:52,880 capacity and add uh you know some ump to your program. So that's what we do. 182 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:58,079 We've been doing it now for two years. and uh we had this idea about a regional 183 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:03,199 economic development uh organization and uh great that we've got three great 184 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:07,759 members including Amelia County EDA and thank you for doing that. Uh and just as 185 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:11,040 an aside, Bob, after this meeting, I'm going to Richmond because Liz and I are 186 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,240 meeting with three vice presidents at BDP to talk about the GAP Alliance. 187 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,800 » Good. >> We did three last four last week. We're 188 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:22,399 doing three in person this week. So, I went up there for that meeting. So, 189 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:28,320 anyway, thank thank you again. That's a a long preamble. I don't mean to be uh 190 00:16:24,959 --> 00:16:33,440 too too too much with that, but um what you do is extremely important. First of 191 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:37,920 all, it it's a sacrifice. You take time from your from your work, from your 192 00:16:34,959 --> 00:16:43,120 life, from your family, and but it is a it is a noble thing that you're doing. 193 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:46,320 Um, in Virginia, we have these economic development authorities, which are by 194 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:51,680 statute established, and you've got a ton of different types of um of 195 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:59,839 abilities that you have both borrowing money, issuing bonds, uh, leasing land, 196 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:04,079 uh, leasing buildings to to tenants, all kinds of things that you can do. And the 197 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,919 way I look at it, it's kind of a simple analogy for me because sometimes I have 198 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:11,120 trouble get my head around things. If you think about it, the board of 199 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,919 supervisors is almost like an architect. They're coming up with a concept and a 200 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,799 design and they're putting some some specifications on this building they're 201 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,079 trying to build, but they it doesn't happen until they get a builder or a 202 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:25,280 developer and you're the building developer. You're where you're where the 203 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:30,000 rubber meets the road and trying to develop things. So, it's a it's a good 204 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:34,720 partnership. It needs to be a good partnership, but each has a role to play 205 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:38,880 and your role is extremely important. It's more like a public private 206 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:44,880 partnership for lack of a better word. So getting into this um oh got let me 207 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:50,520 make sure I can make this work. That's always the challenge whenever you do 208 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,520 these things. They're all different. 209 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:58,919 Oh, I probably hit it backwards. Okay. 210 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:07,240 » Trying to do something. Yeah, I'm trying to make it make it move, but it's not 211 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,240 moving. 212 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,679 » USB out here. 213 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,880 Try again. 214 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,960 I can move over. That's good. 215 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,600 is trying to get through. >> Ah, there we go. 216 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:49,160 » Yep. >> Are we going now? 217 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:55,039 » Oh, yeah. Beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. 218 00:18:52,960 --> 00:19:00,240 So anyway, what we'll uh what I'd like to talk about today with you is uh you 219 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:04,559 know the who, what, when and how of uh economic development and kind of the 220 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:08,559 context of it. Want to look at some of the trends that are today and for the 221 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:13,200 future because economic development is a process and economic development is 222 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:17,360 constantly changing. Uh but what are the fundamentals? If you don't know the 223 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:21,679 fundamentals, you can't go take the step up and and kind of go with the flow when 224 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:26,640 things change. And thi finally partnerships roles and responsibilities 225 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:30,440 are the next thing uh that we'll we'll talk about. Um 226 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:39,200 if it's if you're agreeable um we got well quite a few slides. We've got a 227 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:43,440 limited amount of time. So if you don't mind let me cover the slides and if you 228 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:47,679 got a question just jot jot it down and at the end let's let's have a talk about 229 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:52,640 and answer questions about those things. Uh but if you feel compelled to jump in, 230 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:57,600 just jump in. Okay. But why economic development? 231 00:19:54,559 --> 00:20:01,760 Well, really there's three major players in economic development. First, they're 232 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:06,320 companies. And companies are all about profit, sustainability. Where can I make 233 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:11,120 money and how can I keep that com that flow coming? But for the citizens, it's 234 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:15,200 all about quality of life and wealth creation. So, it's about having a good 235 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:18,880 job. It's also about having the revenue in your local government who can do 236 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:23,440 amenities uh to really make it a great place to live. And then of course for 237 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:27,760 the government, it's all about services for CIS citizens creating better and 238 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:33,039 stronger communities. So as you know, if you know company 239 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:37,520 moves in or a person moves in, it adds to your your burden on your services. So 240 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,880 you're going to have to increase your uh you know your water sewer service got to 241 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:45,120 provide these different things. So, it's all about trying to get those services 242 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:50,120 for the citizens, whether they're new or established, and create a better strong 243 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:50,120 community. 244 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,520 This is kind of the who, what, when, and where. Um, it's really important to know 245 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:05,280 that economic development is not a oneall thing. It's not an announcement, 246 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:11,120 even though, you know, it's great to have an announcement. It's not uh you 247 00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:17,039 know putting just water in somewhere. It is a process and it's uh it takes a lot 248 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:20,960 of background work, a lot of hard work especially when it comes to developing 249 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:24,320 sites and buildings as you're already already know about this. It's preaching 250 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:29,440 to the choir. It just takes a while to do this. And I came from Danville and 251 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:35,280 and and I've seen it firsthand. It's taken Barry Hill now is a successful 252 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:39,840 » piece of property site but it has taken them 10 at least 15 20 years to get that 253 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:44,799 to the point where they attract these types of big projects. So it does take a 254 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:48,559 while to do that. So who leads this? Well really it's as I said it's a 255 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:52,480 process but it's also a team thing. It's designated individuals. So it might be 256 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:57,280 an economic developer local economic developer. It might be the EDA but 257 00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:02,320 there'll be a designated uh individual or organizations for that and again it's 258 00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:06,559 a process uh and influences the growth and structuring of economies 259 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:12,159 and it's not something again that happens once. It is a marathon. It is 260 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:15,520 not a sprint. It's a marathon. You you put your plans together. You work 261 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:21,760 together. You work with your partners and you slowly surely you win the race. 262 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:27,200 Um and it's done actually internationally. It's done on a country 263 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:32,559 level, state level, regional level, and then local level. And each one of those 264 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:36,480 levels uh are kind of to going towards the same goal, but in different ways 265 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:41,760 with different responsibilities. And it's done through understanding of 266 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:46,480 businesses um act proactively creating healthy climates for business 267 00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:50,559 development. Having a vision and goals, that's extremely important. You can't 268 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:56,159 know where you're going to go until you have a vision where you want to go. Um, 269 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,679 and you've got to partner it. You can't just do it all on your own. It all there 270 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,919 are partners in anything you do in economic development. And then the best 271 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:08,960 thing to do is to measure results and adapt your strategy. So if you've got 272 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:12,799 that vision and strategy, monitor that, see how you're progressing on that. And 273 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:18,400 that can be something as simple as a spreadsheet or it can be something as 274 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:22,720 complex as a fiscal impact analysis. So those are all things very very important 275 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,320 to to understand. The economic development process has got many layer 276 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:33,360 layers of government including counties, cities and towns. Um so again hope you 277 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:37,679 can see it's not a it's not a simplistic thing but it's it's something that uh I 278 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:42,000 like to tell people this too. They're very I don't think there's only there 279 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:46,320 might be only one degree in the whole country that you can get in economic 280 00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:51,520 development. Most people in economic development like me, they come from a 281 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:56,159 very background either in business, planning, lots of different things, but 282 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:59,919 they get into economic development. So to be honest with you, in some ways it's 283 00:23:57,919 --> 00:24:04,720 pretty simplistic. The fundamentals are kind of the same, 284 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:08,480 but the the landscape changes and we'll talk about that some too. 285 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,279 Here's some of the changes and I'm not going to go through each one of these 286 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:21,279 but essentially on the left hand side these are the traditional economic 287 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:26,080 development uh components. Um so and and they're still they're 288 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,400 still fundamentals. They're still fundamental to what we do but things 289 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:35,200 have changed over the years and they continue to change. You know, it used to 290 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:39,039 be you just say, "Hey, we're open for business and we've got a bunch of 291 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:44,159 incentives and you know, it's all about jobs, jobs, jobs and that's it." But now 292 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:48,880 that has kind of morphed over. Yes, it's all those things. But it also, yeah, we 293 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:52,480 want don't want just jobs and then they go away in five years. You know, how 294 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:57,120 many how many times have you looked around the Commonwealth and seen a big 295 00:24:54,320 --> 00:25:02,400 company? I mean, Dan Dan River Mills, who thought Dan River Mills would ever 296 00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:05,600 go away? and it devastated my hometown. And so you don't want to put all your 297 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,799 eggs in one basket, but it used to be, hey, just bring us jobs. We'll take it, 298 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:11,919 you know, and then not look for the future. Now it's all about sustained 299 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,840 growth. Give us the jobs, but tell us that you're you're sustainable and this 300 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:21,039 and you can grow this thing. And it's very data driven. Everything these days 301 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:25,919 are it's data driven. Um, you know, in the back in the old days, you could win 302 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:28,880 things almost on a handshake or somebody a company rep says, "Oh, I like these 303 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,760 people. They're really nice. I think we'll just we'll go there. Well, that 304 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:37,120 doesn't happen anymore. It's very very datadriven. 305 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:42,240 Um, and it's about competitiveness and productivity on the project deal side. 306 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:48,960 You can read that. It's was really very very t tactical transactional. You want 307 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:52,559 to come here? Yes, we do. Okay. We got a building over here. We'll sell it to you 308 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,240 for this or hey, maybe we'll give it to you. That type of thing. Very 309 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:01,440 prescription, very bricks and mortar oriented. And as I said, oneoffs and 310 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:06,559 that's all changed. You yes, some of those factors are still there, but 311 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:12,720 they've morphed into again focus more on sustained economic growth for the long 312 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:15,760 term. And looking at human capital, you know, do you have do you have the right 313 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,600 human capital? Do you have the right workforce? Do you have the not just the 314 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:24,080 numbers, but you have the quality of the workforce? 315 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:27,840 And then finally, swing for the ble bleachers. 316 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:33,440 It used to be that everybody wanted that big deal. You got to have that big deal. 317 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:37,440 Uh and or what's the next big thing? You know, is it chip manufacturer? I know we 318 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:42,080 all went down the road in in uh Virginia about chip manufacturing. 319 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:46,000 Um and it never really panned out the way they thought it was going to be. 320 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:49,919 » And now it's all about, you know, entrepreneurial ecosystems. Yes, it's 321 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,440 all about trying to find a good big solid project, but it's also about 322 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:59,840 developing your own through economic through entrepreneurial development um 323 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:04,000 resiliency uh benchmark to focus resources and regional and global 324 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:08,000 growth. It's not just about my patch. It's also about what's good for the 325 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,480 region is good for us. We can all benefit from that. So those are the 326 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:18,080 things that that really have transitioned to make it a more dynamic 327 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:24,880 and and sometimes a more complicated process in economic development. 328 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:31,200 This is one that I I an issue that I especially uh like I guess because I did 329 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:35,679 come from from business and I learned from some people who taught me 330 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,840 that you got to have a business mindset for a lot of things in your life to 331 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:43,679 really be successful. So you know what is a business mindset? Well, what are 332 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,799 the costs of public services per household in your community? So that's 333 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,720 part of an equation, a business equation. What are the taxes that are 334 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:55,520 going to be paid in your community per household? Whether that's bringing in a 335 00:27:52,640 --> 00:28:00,799 company that will add to that tax base or and also adding, you know, 336 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:05,440 calculating up what your households will pay. And then what's the gap? And the 337 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:09,440 gap between the cost of public services and and the taxes collected is the 338 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:14,559 primary reason we do economic development is to keep that keep that 339 00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:22,240 balance or to keep that uh in the pro side and the upscale side. Um 340 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:26,720 so business taxpayers do fill that gap very well. Um and then you want to 341 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:30,720 figure out you know what types of businesses can you attract to help fill 342 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:36,960 that gap. you know, if you're only looking at a low wage uh low uh 343 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,240 investment type of project, you need a lot of those to fill that 344 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:46,320 gap. But maybe if you don't want the 500 345 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:51,679 employee, $100 million project because you don't think you can support it, 346 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:57,200 maybe the 50 million or 25 million with 50 employees or 100 employees is the way 347 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:02,000 to go because still the formula, the business formula still works. 348 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:08,240 the business case still worked. You want to fill that gap with some companies 349 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:13,120 and a place like Amelia or other rural areas need can probably help fill that 350 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:17,919 gap through some entrepreneurial work. Grow in place I call it. Uh there's some 351 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:24,240 great examples of companies that started out as you know three or four people and 352 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:29,840 uh had an idea got some good support from local folks and grew their business 353 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:35,440 and they stayed and now they employ 50 100 150 people have been very 354 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:39,600 successful. So, you know, in rural areas in particular, you got a lot of folks 355 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:43,520 with a lot of great ideas, and it's just a matter of creating that ecosystem to 356 00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:47,240 help them develop themselves and grow themselves in place. 357 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:59,520 And speaking of rural aspects of rural economic development, um 358 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:03,840 you know it's the factors are lower population 359 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:08,399 densities obviously longer distances between economic assets, stronger 360 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:13,440 reliance on natural resources, agriculture, manufacturing, tourism, 361 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:18,159 smaller budgets. We all know about those. The issue of brain drain and 362 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:22,240 that's not just rural areas. It's also some of the areas like again that I came 363 00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:27,919 from uh kids couldn't wait to get out of high school and go somewhere sexy, you 364 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:31,840 know, for lack of a better word. Um and then you sometimes you have that issue 365 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,919 of the come here's versus the from here's. You know, the people who've been 366 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:39,039 here, they don't want things to change necessarily, but you got a bunch of 367 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,200 people moving in. They don't think they can just shake it up. And there's that 368 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:48,960 tension sometime between those that that needs to be f uh fostered a solution to 369 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:54,320 try to make everybody feel like they're they're from here eventually. Um and you 370 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,520 got fewer institutional resources. So you don't have a four-year college 371 00:30:55,679 --> 00:31:03,039 anywhere. Uh what's the closest community college? Is it uh Southside 372 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,799 over in Blackstone? I know they got a facility over Blackstone, but 373 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:12,159 » Right Point. >> Yeah. So, yeah, that's close, but still 374 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:17,760 it's not a large force four-year college or or or training 375 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:23,039 facility. Um, and then of course you've got phil philanthropic organizations, 376 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:26,240 you know, foundations like the Cameron Foundation over in Petersburg or 377 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:30,320 » John Randolph. >> Yeah, exactly. You know, there's those 378 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:37,519 foundations which can help you drive from a financial standpoint, those are 379 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:41,600 often missing, too. Um, so rural areas have to devel have to rely on these 380 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:45,679 relationships. It's really more relationbased and that's why this 381 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:49,760 regional organization that you decided to join, I think is one of the reasons 382 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:55,039 that Liz and I thought, hey, this might be a good idea. U because right now 383 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:59,440 you're you're kind of the flagship or you're you're running it on your own and 384 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,360 now you've got two more partners in this and you're complimentary. you have 385 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:09,679 complimentary abilities and a regional organization has more uh influences when 386 00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:18,320 it comes to the state than you do individually. Um so all of these things 387 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:23,440 are challenges in many ways. Uh but it's reality and in business or in any in 388 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,679 economic development you have to deal with reality. How do you overcome or 389 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:33,600 work around or how do you turn some of the realities into assets for yourself 390 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:38,679 when you tell your stories? So challenges but plenty of opportunities 391 00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:38,679 too. 392 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:47,360 You know I talked about the business's core needs and us all need need to think 393 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:52,559 like a business. Uh very simple stuff. Uh they want a suitable location with 394 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:56,559 reliable infrastructure. That's where that's where groups like yourself and 395 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,200 your efforts really are so extremely important because you're trying to 396 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,799 provide that. That's why they call it product. You know, in economic 397 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:06,480 development, we say sites and buildings are product because at the end of the 398 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:11,440 day, we're kind of selling those things to a company. You got to have that 399 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:14,960 adequate supply of qualified workers. So, it's not just quantity, it's got to 400 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,279 be qualified. And that's where your training programs, what's where your K 401 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:25,440 through2 programs come into into play, the CTE programs, uh gok if you're in 402 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:30,320 goatee, uh it's another great way to uh and rise is another one of doing 403 00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:37,200 workforce training. And you got to have a businessfriendly environment. Uh 404 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:42,720 I won't name the county, but we recently we were trying to uh to do some 405 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:47,600 consulting work in uh in a in a county in Virginia 406 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:53,440 and the contract was I mean minuscule was like10 or $15,000 wasn't much but 407 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:57,840 but they had a rule that we had to get a business license to do and I got think 408 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,600 about say well what about if you're a contractor and you're coming in to you 409 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:05,440 know do something or road do they have to a business license, too. They said, 410 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:08,960 "Well, you don't have to pay us anything in taxes or anything, but you got to 411 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,399 have a license." So, we had to pay a fee to get a license. It was great. You 412 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,159 don't want to be that way. You want to make it as easy as possible, not give 413 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,440 away the the farm, but you want to be as easy as possible to get companies to 414 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:24,159 come in and see that you're businessfriendly 415 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:30,079 » and reasonable cost of doing business. you know that are your are your water 416 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:35,280 rates, you know, uh reliable or they the reasonable uh are are is a company 417 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,679 paying its fair share and not being targeted to pay more than its fair 418 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:44,079 share. So those types of things and then reliable and knowledgeable partners and 419 00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:48,639 that's where this uh we'll talk about business retention and expansion is a 420 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:53,200 service that we offer in economic development and that's where this 421 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,800 reliable knowledgeable partners really comes to four because if you're out 422 00:34:54,879 --> 00:35:00,800 visiting with companies and companies feel that you are truly a partner and 423 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:07,560 looking out for them it's going to be a successful uh 424 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,560 marriage. So doing those types of things 425 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,880 So again, think like the client, the client being businesses. 426 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,800 There's 16 key trends that are shaping the future. We talked about kind of 427 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:27,119 where economic development was and you know what are the things that are uh the 428 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,200 future of business of economic development. Um and there's a list. The 429 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,880 red ones are the ones that that are really the the newest. they've happened 430 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:40,000 in probably the last three years, two to three years and and into the future. You 431 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:44,880 know, again, I talked about I think CO really was a stimulant for a lot of this 432 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,960 entrepreneurial awakening. You had a lot of people who couldn't go into their 433 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:53,839 jobs or came out of CO and said, I'm just disgusted with what I'm doing, but 434 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,960 I got an idea. I really want like I want to work for myself. I want to work I 435 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,119 want to be my boss and and put the pressure on myself. And there's a lot of 436 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:05,359 that going on. a lot of entrepreneurial awakening, a lot of companies, a lot of 437 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,960 individuals uh that are that are developing. And the other thing is 438 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,560 workforce housing. And I think the important thing about workforce housing, 439 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:17,200 I mean, it used to be if you had a prospect come in, you never talked about 440 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,440 housing. They might ask, well, you know, where can we're going to move Bill down 441 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,119 from Miss Minnesota, can you get me in touch with a realtor for a house? You 442 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:30,160 know, they never thought about this. But if you don't have good housing and a 443 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:33,119 variety of houses, you're going to be challenged with the workforce because at 444 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,400 the end of the day, if you bring a company in and you don't have enough 445 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:41,680 local workforce, the workforce is going to come somewhere. Well, one of the 446 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,440 goals ought to be, well, let's get them to come down here and buy a house and 447 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,680 live here while they work in this new factory instead of commuting down an 448 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:55,839 hour or whatever it might be. And workforce housing should not be 449 00:36:51,599 --> 00:37:00,880 construed as a uh as subsidized housing. It it's it's about having houses that 450 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:06,400 are not the upper end of the market or the other end of the market but in the 451 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:09,760 the market the area of the market that workers who are working in a factor 452 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,320 whether in management whether line workers whatever they may they've got 453 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:19,680 opt they've got enough quantity of affordable houses that they can live in. 454 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:24,400 child care is is something that's that's relatively new in the in the mix when it 455 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:28,960 comes to talking to prospects. And I think back to uh time when we were 456 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,079 living in Blackburg, I was uh working doing some work or actually had an 457 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,839 office at the corporate research center there in Blackburg and they had a great 458 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,920 idea. They said, you know, we've got all these really smart people and we've got 459 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,599 these spouses who've moved down with their husbands. They're, you know, at 460 00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:47,359 tech and they have nothing to do. You know, they they want something to do. 461 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,440 maybe they they get a secretarial job, whatever it might be, but they can't 462 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:57,200 really do those things without child care. So, Virginia Tech Corporate 463 00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:03,280 Foundation, which runs the CRC, teamed up with a child care provider and they 464 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:07,599 built the CRC built the facility and the childcare operation 465 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:12,560 operated it. And so, that was something that they offered businesses that wanted 466 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:16,960 to move into the CRC. And it was great. And this was, you know, 10 years ago. So 467 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:22,079 with child care is a big deal because it it frees up workforce. If if if if 468 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:27,520 parents know they've got good child care in the area site develop ready 469 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:30,320 development, you know, it used to be got a green field piece of property. A 470 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,839 company would come, they say, "Oh, that's a great piece of property. Okay, 471 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:38,160 buy that property or you give it to me and I'll I'll set my place up here." 472 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,839 That doesn't work anymore. They're looking for site ready things. In 473 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:47,760 Virginia, we have this Virginia business ready site program and it has a tiered 474 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:51,599 system by readiness. So one is just a piece of land, a green piece of land 475 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:57,280 normally that's controlled by who? A public entity usually with number five. 476 00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:03,359 It's got all the infrastructure in it. It's got I mean you can have a company 477 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:07,680 up and running in 12 to 14 months essentially a construction you know 478 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:11,599 construction cycle. So it is ready to go. So there's a lot of emphasis on 479 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:18,640 trying to move these up and that that that chain that re that that uh tier 480 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:24,079 one, two, three, four, and five is a great strategy or a road map for you to 481 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:29,920 make each progress until you get to number five. Um health care, you know, 482 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:36,480 again, it's kind of like the uh child care side of things. You've got to have 483 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:40,960 good health care. Um and u you know, that could that can be many things. That 484 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:45,760 can be local clinics. That can be ready access to a major hospital. It can be a 485 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:50,800 lot of things. But Liz and I just started a project over in the coal 486 00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:54,720 fields of of West Virginia. And I never thought in a country that's, 487 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,960 you know, as rich as we are that you'd have counties that don't even have a 488 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:03,520 doctor's office. They don't have a dentist's office. They don't have eye 489 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,040 specialists. They don't have anybody. So if they want if they get sick and have 490 00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:10,480 anything or even routine stuff, they have to get in a car and drive an hour 491 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:16,800 and a half to Bluefield. So you having some type of access 492 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:22,240 is a minimum. Having good health care is really essential. And then federal and 493 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:26,320 state policies. So you know, I'm not going to get into federal and state 494 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:30,000 policies too much. You know, like now they're all around energy. They're 495 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:35,440 around tariffs. It's it's all the stuff that affects how we are able to develop 496 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:39,520 things and how we're able to attract businesses. So that's the importance of 497 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:43,200 it and that used to not really come in at all. And then I've mentioned energy 498 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:47,760 and there's just this whole issue about energy about supply but also about 499 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:52,160 turnaround times and getting substations in all that stuff. So energy and then 500 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:56,960 you know your mix of energy and is it reliable or not. So these are all things 501 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,599 that are are new that have to be considered. Um, and things that aren't 502 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:05,520 going to go away, they're going to continue. The the list here may change 503 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,760 over the next five years where other things are emphasized and some things 504 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:15,520 are less emphasized. But still, the bottom line is that 505 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:22,319 that it's ever changing and just to be aware of what the changes 506 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:26,960 are will help a lot, I think, uh, as you move forward. 507 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:34,800 Um, without a lot of commentary, there's still f four fundamentals of economic 508 00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:39,280 development. And, uh, at the top of this is the sexy one. 509 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:43,440 You know, everybody wants that big announcement to have the governor come 510 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,880 down and do all that stuff. So, it's business attraction. That's where you're 511 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:50,560 trying to bring new companies into the area. 512 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:55,040 Second was grow your own. That's more the entrepreneurial side of things. 513 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,760 Um, and we talked a little bit about that 514 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,680 business expansion. And this one is is extremely important. It goes back to 515 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:08,000 what I talked about earlier, being a good partner and understanding your 516 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,119 local companies that exist and having a good relationship with them and being 517 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:16,400 supportive. There was a stat statistic in economic 518 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:24,640 developers have used for decades that used to be that the the number was 80% 519 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:33,000 75% of your new new business your your jobs and investment 520 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:33,000 comes from u 20% of the businesses 521 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:41,599 and now it's 80 you know it's 8020 now we're 7525 so the majority of new 522 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:47,359 business new jobs and investment come from existing business, but it's not as 523 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:50,480 sexy. The good news is it's a low it's a lower cost. It's it's lower cost because 524 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,760 essentially at the end of the day, it's about time. It's having someone go out 525 00:42:53,440 --> 00:43:00,240 and sit down with companies and do things for companies and have events for 526 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:05,040 companies and all those things to build that relationship and to help them if 527 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:09,839 they're having issues, try to help them with those issues or to learn that, you 528 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,000 know, maybe they've got a supplier who is not in your in this area. Well, why 529 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,880 don't we talk about trying to attract your supplier here to supply you, get a 530 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:22,640 little closer, you both win with that. So that's extremely important part of 531 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:29,200 this and that's why it's bigger part of the pyramid. And then the last part is 532 00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:34,480 placemaking and tal for talent. And more and more um whether it's 533 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:39,920 entrepreneurial or whether it's a higher tech business whatever it might be the 534 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:44,880 new workers the generational workers having a great place lots of different 535 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:50,960 amenities and activities and fun whether it be outdoor stuff whether that be uh 536 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:56,560 you know events that they go to. That's it's 537 00:43:53,359 --> 00:44:00,160 important to have a place that your workers who want might want to come in 538 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:04,319 and work say, "Hey, this is a great place to live. So, I won't commute 60 539 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:08,000 miles or an hour or whatever to this. I I'll go ahead and move there." And oh, 540 00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:12,160 by the way, they they have affordable housing, so I can buy a house now. So, 541 00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:18,160 it's all interrelated. Uh and just in kind of put this in 542 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:23,920 perspective about cost and efforts. a business attraction has the most time 543 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:28,319 involved, the most cost involved, but you usually get the biggest bang for 544 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:32,880 your buck. You know, you you'll get more attention and that helps attract other 545 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:38,800 companies in. Also, grow your own. It takes a lot of of handholding and stuff 546 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,920 and sometimes uh unfortunately if if those companies can make it two years, 547 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,440 they're usually going to be okay and then they can grow from there. It's that 548 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,520 first two years which are are difficult and they need a lot of support. So you 549 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:55,280 may have support organizations like the small business development center uh 550 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:58,640 rise uh might be another one but and then expansion the business expansion 551 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:03,040 we've talked about that that's mainly a time issue but less cost but you get a 552 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:06,960 really big bang for your buck if you can keep your companies happy and keep them 553 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:10,480 growing and then placemaking for talent that really is a shared thing with your 554 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:17,040 chamber of commerce with your parks and reccks uh with all kinds of different 555 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:22,680 partners on that u and it just takes um and it takes a little bit of money to 556 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,680 get that moving forward. 557 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:34,240 You know, I talked about um a little bit about placemaking and talent attraction. 558 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:39,200 Uh it fuels the econ's health. Uh it's live here and work here, work there. It 559 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:42,880 it allows you to live here and work here. You can if you can attract and 560 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:48,240 make your place making your talent attractive. Um, 561 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:53,200 and then I got some there's some uh links on here and I'm just going to talk 562 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:57,599 about get to Rono, the one at the bottom, 563 00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:02,560 because I think Rono is an extremely good example of how this can work. You 564 00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:07,119 know, Ron, Virginia was a railroad town. That's why it was founded all actually 565 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:11,440 was big at one point, but then the railroad came in. So the railroad built 566 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:16,000 it and but then the railroad started 567 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:20,880 pulling out and things didn't look that great. Their manufacturing base was 568 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:25,440 okay, but it wasn't that great. They made a decision that they wanted to 569 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:30,160 really emphasize their outdoor amenities as a place. 570 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:34,480 And um so they've got the river there, they've got the mountains and they they 571 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,480 started consciously that was their vision. that consciously said, "Okay, 572 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:43,520 we're going to start pushing ourselves as a great place to come and live to 573 00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:47,760 attract the talent and also at the same time we're working to bring new 574 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:52,760 businesses in." So, this is a website that they've created and 575 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,800 essentially it, if you get a chance, write this down, write that down and try 576 00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:02,880 to go look at it because it it's a pretty amazing thing. They talk about I 577 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,800 mean it's they've got lots of different things on there, but they've got a site 578 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:12,720 and explains why somebody should want to live there. They've got tools for 579 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:17,359 housing to find housing. They've got job announcements from the area, you know, 580 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:22,480 who's hiring, what kind of jobs are on there. They show all the recreational 581 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:27,359 activities and amenities around the place, around the the the county and the 582 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:34,400 town. They show all the cultural and community events, etc., etc., et, etc. 583 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:40,000 They really lay out why Rono is such a great place for you to come in and work. 584 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:45,040 And it is it has really turned that place around. You go there now and it it 585 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:49,280 it has a whole different feel to it uh than when I used to visit my 586 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:54,400 grandfather. He was a machinist at uh Schaer's Crossing for 45 years on the 587 00:47:51,760 --> 00:48:00,480 North and Western and it has changed so much since those days. So it's just an 588 00:47:57,359 --> 00:48:05,839 idea of that you can take for the future is to really try to develop that place 589 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:10,160 uh because it is important as you're trying to attract the quality and the 590 00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:14,319 quantity of workforce as well as growing your own. Another thing on the 591 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:18,400 placemaking side and I'll just give you a little bit of side. These are some are 592 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:22,079 some localities rural localities have really taken this to heart and been 593 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:28,319 successful with it. And I'm familiar with the Crooked Road because I lived in 594 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:33,599 Southwest Virginia for 22 years and uh work worked with some folks on Crooked 595 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:39,280 Road stuff along with some uh tourism related to the wilderness road. 596 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:44,720 But what I don't how many people have ever heard of the Cricut Road or been on 597 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:50,400 the Cricut Road? Anybody? Okay. We had all of these little towns and rural 598 00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:56,319 areas starting in Rocky Mount, Virginia, and going up to Dickinson County to 599 00:48:53,040 --> 00:49:03,520 Chipwood, not Clintwood. Um, Clintwood is the home of um, oh 600 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:08,079 gosh, and it just lo just lost one of the big blueg grass stars. He been 601 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:12,400 around forever, but he's dead now. I'll remember it at the end and I'll I'll 602 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:17,599 tell you Ralph Stanley. Thank you. Thank you. it just went away. But Reverend 603 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:22,559 Reverend Stanley was uh was from that area. But along the way, you had Floyd, 604 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:27,200 you know, Floyd is known for its music and it's got venues there for uh like 605 00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:31,440 Floyd Country Store every Friday night. Go down downtown Floyd and it's it's 606 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,920 amazing. Rocky Mount, you got the Harvester, you know, the Harvester. I 607 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:38,960 was Rocky Mount was one of my clients when I was working for an engineering 608 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,280 firm and I was there when they developed the harvester. It's a phenomenal place 609 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:47,599 to go to hear music. And there's all kinds of bluegrass and country music and 610 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,200 everything going along around town. So, somebody had the idea, why don't we link 611 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:56,319 up all of these different little towns along this route and it goes up Route 8 612 00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:02,160 and then I think it goes up 58. But anyway, it goes from Rocky Mount to 613 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:07,680 Clintwood and they have uh all the music venues, they have events going on, they 614 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:11,680 have museums, they have just a lot of different arts and crafts and they built 615 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,640 everything, branded it around this Cricut Road concept and what it's done 616 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:21,119 for the lo localities that the that the Crooked Road passes through is 617 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:25,040 phenomenal. No, it's not, you know, millions of dollars of investment or 618 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,720 anything like that, but it gets tourists coming through the area spending their 619 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:33,760 money. Who knows? You might have somebody who 620 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,119 is a a bluegrass fan who owns a company in the Northeast and is tired of the 621 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:42,559 Northeast and they like what they see. That happened in Radford, Virginia, many 622 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:45,760 years ago. Um, you had somebody coming down the interstate and he liked Radford 623 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:49,680 when he stopped to have lunch, so he put his factory there. it. So these things 624 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:53,599 do work and you're familiar with Virginia Civil War trails because I 625 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:57,119 think the trails come through here. So I can't really speak about how successful 626 00:50:55,119 --> 00:51:01,359 that's been from an economic standpoint. Fields of Gold is another one though. 627 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:05,760 It's it's in the Shannro Valley thing and what they decided to do was they had 628 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:11,280 all these small farms and big farms and farm stands and ice cream dairies and 629 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:16,240 all this stuff. So they put together this this uh 630 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:21,280 this organization called Fields of Gold and it essentially is agurism 631 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:26,720 and it's been and they've got websites they got materials they things going on 632 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:30,640 they've got members who join who are farmers and and dairymen and that type 633 00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:35,200 of thing. And it's been extremely successful in attracting 634 00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:38,559 tourists to the area who do nothing but come just to go around to these 635 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:43,920 different places and get homemade ice cream and, you know, 636 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:48,800 buy stuff. And so it's it's that type of thing that really anybody can do as long 637 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:53,839 as you got an idea, but it takes some time to organize. But at the end of the 638 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:58,319 day, it's all about trying to attract. Number one is to help develop rural 639 00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:02,880 entrepreneurs who can be on these trails. uh and supply different things, 640 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:10,079 but it's also about trying to get tourism into your area to build your 641 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:13,839 local economies. Um talked about business retention and 642 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:17,359 expansion. This is the high percentage of new jobs 643 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:24,400 and capital investments come from existing business. Um this is really the 644 00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:29,520 responsibility of the local government. Uh the Commonwealth Virginia does 645 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:34,800 actually have a a essentially a VR program and they have regional folks who 646 00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:39,119 come down working with localities to go visit companies. So it is a partnership 647 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,880 between the state Virginia Economic Development Partnership and the local 648 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:48,800 but really the the owners is really on the local folks because you know your 649 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:54,079 businesses better than anybody else. And um 650 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:58,000 and as you can see it's there's some things the retention of capital base 651 00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:01,920 secures your tax revenue. The outreach is costefficient 652 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,400 essentially. You just go put on a schedule. You go out and sit down with 653 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:07,599 somebody or you take them to lunch and have a discussion about their business. 654 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:12,960 You do that on a quarterly basis or every six months whatever the frequency 655 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:16,960 is. And it's really the opportunity to identify problems before they come 656 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:20,640 unsolvable. The last thing you want is just to wake up one day and your local 657 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:24,160 local factory, your local business has said, "Well, we're shutting down 658 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,200 tomorrow." When they may have had a problem for a while and if you knew 659 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:32,880 about the problem, you might be able to reach out to some other partners and and 660 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:36,400 get some help for them. Um, gives you the opportunity to validate 661 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,160 the fact that you, hey, I believe our business climate is great. We're doing 662 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:44,240 great here. We're not really supportive. Well, they may tell you, well, yeah, in 663 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:48,640 most areas you are, but maybe you need to work on this particular area in 664 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:52,400 particular. So, that's very important. Uh, 665 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:57,520 and they create business champions. I think this is a is one of the premier 666 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:03,200 reasons that you should be out working with your businesses because businesses 667 00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:07,440 can not only support things that happen in your community if they're happy with 668 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:12,480 the community and become your champions, but also when a company comes and looks, 669 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:17,359 they're going to pay attention to what the local business owners have to say. 670 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:24,240 And if you got a good business champion for your locality, that is golden on a 671 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:28,079 uh on a prospect visit. And um you can create a professional 672 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:33,280 service team that is creative and customer focused. Uh and that could be, 673 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:37,280 you know, architects, engineers, whatever your needs may be. If they're 674 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:41,520 in the area, you can, you know, you need somebody to come out and and do survey 675 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,720 or to do design and they're you've got a good relationship with them. That's one 676 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,200 reason to go out and talk to those types of folks. Also, 677 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:55,040 and this is just an example. If you get a chance sometime, take a look at 678 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:59,839 Frederick Frederick County. That's up in the upper Shannidora Valley. I guess 679 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:04,640 that would be down the valley because it's north, but they call it down the 680 00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:08,400 valley. But they made a decision that they were not going to focus on business 681 00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:11,920 attraction because they had a really good 682 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:17,119 factoring base already. They were going to just focus on call teams to visit 683 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:21,920 local businesses and communicate training resources, expansion assistant 684 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:28,240 opportunities, problem solving, all those types of things. And it's really 685 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:31,280 been amazingly successful for them. Um, they've got a track record of 686 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:35,280 facilitating financial and workforce training assistance and expanding their 687 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,760 companies. And those are all the figures that they use, you know, the capex uh 688 00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:46,319 for expansion of businesses and that type of thing. 689 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:50,799 Um so it's been very successful. It's u you know again you have to kind of put 690 00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:55,920 that this is just an example but it is a I say a supercharged example it because 691 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:59,280 they do have such a broad manufacturing base. If you don't have that much 692 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,480 manufacturing base, you're not going to achieve those types. But you are going 693 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,880 to keep your companies and you keep expanding your companies in place, which 694 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:13,119 is really a goal. And it's something that can be done with not a lot of 695 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:16,880 money, but with some effort. Of course, we talked a little bit about 696 00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:22,880 the econ the entrepreneurial side of things. Um, and again, that's long-term, 697 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:26,640 but it can create businesses. Um, it's got to be systematic, have a systematic 698 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:32,319 approach to this. that uses not just your resources. Most 699 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:36,240 of the resources to help support these early uh early businesses and 700 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:41,359 entrepreneurs come from the region or from the state. They might come from a 701 00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:47,040 university. They may come college, small business development center, uh like I 702 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:52,880 say, rise, those types of of uh business support organizations or SCORE, who is a 703 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:58,319 organization of retired executives and that can always be a good resource to to 704 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:03,440 help with that. Um and you're part of the rise region uh rise region in 705 00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:08,160 southern Virginia, I believe. So do have that program available. It's a really 706 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:12,160 good ecosystem that's coordinated through Southern Virginia Innovation 707 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:16,559 Center and it's it's supported by Mid-Atlantic Broadband staff. So, they 708 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,839 have some staffing to help out too. And they use fund they've got funding from 709 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:26,720 Go Virginia and some other federal partners that keeps them clicking along. 710 00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:31,119 I think the important thing is to to get those resources to the entrepreneur and 711 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,319 don't ask the entrepreneur to drive 45 minutes or an hour to go because you 712 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:38,400 they're trying to build their business. That's that's the goal is to get them to 713 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:44,880 build and sustain their business. So if you can get those support to them, 714 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:47,200 that's that's golden. Uh do everything you can. It's kind of like with the 715 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:51,599 bigger business, do everything you can to help them grow, help them sustain. 716 00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:56,640 The challenges are, you know, they are going to be influenced by the quality of 717 00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,240 place. Uh you know, it's it's that's kind of it kind of makes me laugh. You 718 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,119 know, we went through this phase where every town wanted to have a coffee shop 719 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:09,599 because that's what all these millennials they want a coffee shop. So 720 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:14,799 there's that then in a micro brewery. >> You got those two, you got it made. Uh 721 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:18,720 entrepreneurials are typically require really expensive 722 00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:23,839 support networks and that's where those agencies and organizations I just 723 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:28,400 mentioned come in into play. Um, again, if you can get them past the first two 724 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,520 years, they be they're going to be golden. They they've got a good idea. 725 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,640 They've got a good business model. Things are working and they can grow 726 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,799 from there. But it's that first two years, which is really tough. And you 727 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:43,599 just have to have significant significant staff uh is necessary and 728 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:48,480 sometime with limited rewards. It takes some patience, too. But I do go back and 729 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:54,640 and here's some examples of some of the entrepreneurial stuff. 730 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:59,520 One of my gigs in projects was I was hired to be the executive director under 731 00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:05,119 contract with the Greater Williamsburg Partnership and that was uh James City 732 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:10,480 County, York County and City of Williamsburg and they had a facility and 733 00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:16,240 a program called Launchpad and Launchpad uh gave is and it's still 734 00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:18,880 in existence but they've expanded some they're now down they've got an 735 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,720 operation down in Hampton Road somewhere. 736 00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:28,240 But they give work fa workspace u guidance mentoring those types of 737 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:33,040 things. Um they have partners that they uh hook companies up who are in 738 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:36,559 launchpad that could be SCORE. Hampton Roads has a group and William and Mary 739 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:41,520 because they're located in next to William and Mary. They have guest 740 00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:46,240 speakers, memberships, seed funds. But what what really was encouraging for 741 00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:49,119 me when I worked there for I was with them for about two and a half three 742 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,799 years. There were two guys who came into 743 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:58,079 Launchpad and paid their their money to have a little office space there. They 744 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:02,559 were called SBT Robotics and they started out with two people and 745 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:07,520 they they now are worldwide and this has been only in eight years but they 746 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:11,359 started out there. They got support. They got what they needed. They got seed 747 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:15,040 money. They got connections. They got all of those things. And what they do is 748 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:19,440 they do robotic integration. So if you got a factory that's got 10 different 749 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:23,520 brands of robots in it and they all have to talk a different language, they've 750 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:27,760 created a way that all these robots can work as a unit. They they understand 751 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:32,799 each other through through these SD robotic systems. And it's phenomenal. 752 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:38,319 They just announced that they have a worldwide uh contract with DHL, which is 753 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,720 the big international freight carrier because they use, you know, robots 754 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:48,079 everywhere. And this shows you what can happen if you give people and 755 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:52,480 entrepreneurs with a good idea, the right kind of support, 756 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:56,000 this is what can happen. And so they employ, you know, hundreds of people 757 01:00:53,839 --> 01:01:00,319 now. And they're global. when they started out as a twoperson firm eight 758 01:00:57,839 --> 01:01:05,319 years ago in Launchpad. So, it's a great success story, I think, and a good 759 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:05,319 model. 760 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:11,920 Business attraction, this again is the one that gets the most 761 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:17,839 attention. The press and the governor and everybody else gets so excited about 762 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:21,359 it. Um, it does increase the size of the local economy. That's a benefit. It 763 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:27,520 diversifies the tax base and employment base. And there's another county uh 764 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:31,280 actually within in the new region u and I'm not going to mention names because I 765 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:40,400 probably shouldn't but it's Paul public. They their tax uh tax uh uh mix was 766 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:45,200 really offkilter. Uh they were 75% residential 767 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:49,280 and about 25% commercial. Well 20% commercial 5% industrial. 768 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:55,680 And they knew they couldn't keep doing that. And so this is where the board of 769 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:59,040 supervisors worked with the EDA and board of supervisors said, "We want the 770 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:03,920 mix to change." And no, we can't do it overnight, but we want to change it so 771 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:08,640 that we've got a higher amount of industrial and and commercial than we 772 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,839 have now, less in our tax revenue coming from residential. So they put everything 773 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:17,200 in motion around that concept for the next three to five years. This is our 774 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:21,599 goal. They've got percentages, but I don't even remember what the percentages 775 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:27,680 were. But that's what the diversification of the of the base does. 776 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:33,359 It it helps uh helps increase uh your tax revenues in certain areas and still 777 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:37,040 uh being so you're able to provide the services that need it. And it's the most 778 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:42,240 visible result of economic development. Like I said, it's when the governor gets 779 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:47,119 on the, you know, on comes down and everybody gets very excited and all the 780 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:52,559 local officials get excited and EDA gets excited and everybody gets excited. 781 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,960 The challenge is though it is the most competitive. I think there's something 782 01:02:53,839 --> 01:03:01,760 like trying to remember 11,000 economic development organization organizations 783 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:05,520 in the US alone. And when we're talking about attraction, 784 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:10,400 we're not talking about just the US. your competition is global. And you look 785 01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:15,280 at all of the countries around the world that have strong economic development uh 786 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:21,200 programs, they're trying to get that company to move here to England or 787 01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:25,920 wherever instead of coming to Amelia County. So it's extremely competitive 788 01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:31,520 and it's it you really have to think about how do you position yourself 789 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:36,720 not only with uh what you talk about in your assets but what are your goals 790 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:41,119 because you know back in the old day well when Amazon announced that they 791 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:47,920 were going to have this competition. I was in Richmond with the uh at a we were 792 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:50,960 in up in DC and I was on a mission with Virginia Economic Development 793 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:56,880 Partnership and the the manager I was with got 794 01:03:54,319 --> 01:04:02,160 called back to Richmond because I Amazon had just announced that 795 01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:06,480 they wanted to have an that HQ2 competition 796 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:10,799 » and all of a sudden every locality in Virginia 797 01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:15,920 » was sending fruit baskets was you doing this and I I told the president or the 798 01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:21,039 CEO of BDP said you really need to put the lid on this and expectations not 799 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:24,640 every local very few of these localities are going to get anywhere and they're 800 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,599 get so worked up and their boards are getting worked up and they're telling 801 01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:34,319 the economic developers you you got to go get this and it's not going to 802 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:39,119 happen. So it's it's it's about being intentional about who you go after and 803 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:43,760 making sure that it fits your community. Uh it is generally an expensive 804 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:47,839 strategy. Uh you know you you're already witnessing that with trying to develop 805 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:53,359 your product, your site, your your your your your 806 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:59,039 park. Um and you got to have a lot of elements in place to reduce the risk for 807 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:03,599 the business client. Um, and there's just a bunch of different criteria that 808 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:08,640 are are some of those things that need to be in place in order to get to be a 809 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:13,680 tier five ready for business type of company. So, it takes a lot of work. It 810 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:18,720 doesn't mean you can't have success somewhere along that path. But if you 811 01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:24,880 want to be top in class and you want to get the most attention, got a lot of 812 01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:30,720 things to put in place or to uh explain as an asset that you have or one that 813 01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:35,280 needs to be developed further. Really partnerships are key and I think 814 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:40,640 about anything that you do. It's hard to be the lone wolf and go your own. 815 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:44,480 uh and economic development is extremely important because business is the center 816 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:49,280 cog that makes the world go around in our in economic development but you've 817 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:53,520 got a state you've got regional you got locality you got nonprofits and you got 818 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:58,559 the fed all of those have a role to play and all those influence 819 01:05:55,839 --> 01:06:05,599 uh how things work no single entity can do it by itself and always remember the 820 01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:09,760 business is the center of everything I want to we're getting close to 821 01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:13,520 wrapping here. Um, but I think it is important to understand the Virginia way 822 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:20,319 because we are unique in how we do economic development in Virginia. Um, 823 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:27,440 we're very much based on a state to region to locality model. So, 824 01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:31,520 Commonwealth Virginia uh they u 825 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,839 they they go out and market for the world. They they market and say, 826 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:39,520 "Listen, Virginia is the top place to be. this is where you want to create 827 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,119 your your opportunities, your sustainabilities, and they they talk 828 01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:48,160 about all of our assets and they talk about talk about the the business 829 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:52,000 climate and all those types of things. But what happens if they get a prospect 830 01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:56,960 in they get a company says, you know, well, we're interested interested in 831 01:06:54,079 --> 01:07:00,960 Virginia and we need, you know, certain size site and we eventually want this 832 01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:04,960 size building and we need this kind of workforce and we need they have a whole 833 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:08,960 criter list of criteria. They reach out through the regional 834 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:12,960 groups and there I think now with the addition of the gap alliance I think 835 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:18,400 there are 19 economic development regions in Virginia and these are all 836 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:22,480 organizations that come together for a variety of different reasons. 837 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:27,119 Sometimes it's because they have a common culture sometimes it's because of 838 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:31,839 geography. Sometimes because of both. So there's lots of different reg reasons 839 01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:35,359 for doing that. But the but this the Commonwealth once they get that lead and 840 01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:39,280 they may vetted it a little bit and say, "Well, we think that the GAP Alliance is 841 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:42,960 a good regional bridge, they'll come to the GAP Alliance and say, "We've got 842 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:47,839 this prospect that this is what they're interested in." And then it's our job to 843 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:53,760 funnel that down to our local members and work with our local members in a 844 01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:58,559 support uh staff in a support situation. And if the local member has got 845 01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:02,079 everything that's needed, we work with them to get that back up to 846 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,520 the state and then presents that to the prospect. And eventually the goal is to 847 01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:09,680 try to get them interested enough to come the company interested enough to 848 01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:13,680 come and visit. And that's when the hard work starts. 849 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,600 The rest of the work with the the preliminary work on the regional basis 850 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,199 and on the local basis to make sure you got all your data in line that you got a 851 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:25,920 good team together. you kind of got a philosophy or a strategy of how you 852 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:29,520 would handle a prospect visit. Who needs to be at those visits? What do you want 853 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,880 to show them while you're here? How do you highlight and hit all the things 854 01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:38,960 that are really important to them like workforce, like housed, like sites and 855 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:42,560 buildings, all those things. So, it is really a team sport. if you 856 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:47,759 and I, you know, I live in North Carolina and North Carolina is not like 857 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:52,400 this and no other states are like this because North Carolina did used to have 858 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:57,040 regional groups and they were actually funded by the state, but they did away 859 01:08:54,799 --> 01:09:02,799 with those. Shoot, I came on board with Sanford. This was my first project with 860 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:07,679 Sanford Holtzhouser was uh advantage west which was a bunch of counties in 861 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:13,199 and the city of Asheville out the western part and they brought me on to 862 01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:15,759 help them understand how they could fund raise because they were going to lose 863 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:19,679 all their state funding. So the state does not fund regional groups anymore. 864 01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:22,480 They're coming back kind of like Virginia is because we're all 865 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,319 self-funded. The regional groups are all self-funded. They're not funded by the 866 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:30,239 state. But u you know they just have a 867 01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:33,679 different model. Georgia has a different model. They all do. But we've worked 868 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:38,400 this way and it's worked very well for us. But it's all about having strategic 869 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:42,880 vision and action plan attraction new business existing business retention 870 01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:48,319 expansion marketing and promotion the product development business formation 871 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:53,839 tourism workforce all the other things that we've talked about within that 872 01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:57,520 Virginia way. We cover all those bases in lots of different ways. 873 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:08,400 And this slide is generally the primary roles and responsibilities for each of 874 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:13,280 those uh those uh levels that I just mentioned in the Virginia waste system. 875 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:17,760 Um and it really a lot of it depends on 876 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:21,199 really solid communication settlement as you'll see 877 01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:25,280 you're let's start on the right hand side with the state. The state as I said 878 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:29,199 there's marketing responsible for business climate the state business 879 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:34,000 climate strategies to focus like workforce broadband transportation big 880 01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:38,320 one research supply chains making sure that we got a 881 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:42,960 good supply chain for a lot of different types of businesses and then helping to 882 01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:47,679 create funding sources like the go Virginia program or the tobacco 883 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:51,520 commission those types of things and then on the regional as we talked about 884 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:56,400 it's about trying to put together work force story. So it's not about an 885 01:10:53,679 --> 01:11:00,080 individual locality member telling a workforce story is trying to find the 886 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:04,880 consolidation of the three members in our new gap alliance. How does that work 887 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:08,560 story look? Because you know to be honest with you most companies don't 888 01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:11,760 start out looking at a locality. They start out looking at a state and then 889 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:15,600 they look at a region and region is where you can begin to make a good 890 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:22,080 regional pitch that gets their attention. Uh we the region focuses on 891 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:26,960 higher education infrastructure etc etc etc and on the local level it's all 892 01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:32,960 about real estate your infrastructure especially the broadband early education 893 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:37,120 K through 12 the local tax policy quality of life is a big one we talked a 894 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:42,400 lot about that the existing businesses you know you got a good business uh 895 01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:45,920 ecosystem where where in your locality and do you have good relationships with 896 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:50,640 them and then stakeholders and champions ions. That could be your your local 897 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:57,440 bank. That could be uh business champions who who tout doing business 898 01:11:53,040 --> 01:12:00,880 here. That could be the church uh religious structure. It could be a lot 899 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:05,159 of different folks or stakeholders and champions for your locality. 900 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:17,600 And you can only have success in economic development if you have a 901 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:22,560 shared vision at the local level. Um, and you you can read these, you know, it 902 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:28,320 really is about sharing, flexible long-term strategies, 903 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:33,600 being committed to confidentiality. That's a big deal with companies uh and 904 01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:38,400 actually with the state too. Company are you you get an opportunity. 905 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:41,440 It's it's always good to keep that to yourselves until something really 906 01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:46,159 happens because you don't want to have the egg on your face 907 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:50,000 uh if if things don't work out or the company finds out that something that 908 01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:54,239 should be confidential is widely known. They will turn around and run the other 909 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:58,800 way. Got to have good communication strategies in place between your 910 01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:03,120 partnership and partners. Uh stakeholders have to be engaged and you 911 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:08,320 have to commit resources which are staff and funding uh to make that happen. 912 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:13,199 I think that really the shared leadership and shared vision or 913 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:17,920 leadership and vision in a fundamental way comes down to two 914 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:22,800 entities. That's your elected officials and your EDNA. 915 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:28,000 You need to be on the same page. You need to have regular communication. 916 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:31,520 Share ideas. may not always agree 100% on everything, but have that dialogue 917 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:36,880 and be able to communicate with each other and come to a shared vision and 918 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:40,400 move forward together. Everywhere you look, they have that good line of 919 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:44,880 communication, that good partnership, that shared vision that's successful. 920 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:50,320 And believe me, I we see plenty of places that where that does not happen 921 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:54,560 and they are suffering. So sometimes we have to park we have to 922 01:13:52,480 --> 01:14:00,080 park ourselves at the curb, our egos at the curb and bite a little humble pie, 923 01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:05,040 but it's it it it helps it helps a lot to have that single vision and that 924 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:09,520 single effort together to move forward. Um things like having meetings on a 925 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:13,760 regular basis with your counterparts or joint planning. I don't know if you guys 926 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:17,600 do workshops, especially when the budget's coming up and stuff. if you 927 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:22,239 have workshops or planning sessions or anything like that, but that's also a 928 01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:28,960 really good way to try to come to the single vision and share the load. 929 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:33,440 I'm not going to read this. I mean, it's it's stating it's stating the obvious. I 930 01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:37,600 think that it's important that the board of supervisors has a role and as I said, 931 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:41,120 it's analogous to me to an architect. They're designing, they're putting 932 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:49,440 specifications. EDA has uh the hammer and the nails and 933 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:53,679 the power equipment to build it. And you can't have a great building if you 934 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:59,040 don't have both of those. And they've got to have a shared vision of what that 935 01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:03,199 building's going to look like. Um you know, again, you've got a lot of 936 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:08,480 powers with the statutes that you have for setting this up. 937 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:13,199 It's again ensure alignment with the county and communicate communicate 938 01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:16,880 communicate and serve as the integrator of stakeholder views and that's not only 939 01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:20,480 just government but it's also your business community you're the ones who 940 01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:25,760 can kind of bring all the conversations together into into a vision and 941 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:31,840 collaboration partnerships and I believe 942 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:37,840 that is it so I know that was a lot to cover 943 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:42,159 I think if I To sum it up, it's this. It there's some fundamental things that 944 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:46,960 will be here forever. There's some new things that are influencing how we do 945 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:51,440 economic development. It's all about having partners and and 946 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,719 having good relationship, having common visions. And it's also about just 947 01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:59,280 rolling your sleeves up. And it's it's also about asking for help. If if you 948 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:03,199 think you can't solve a problem on your own, reach out. You know, reach out. 949 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:08,960 There's plenty of partners around the Commonwealth. there's partners in in uh 950 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:13,120 in your region who are willing to help because we're all in the same same boat. 951 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:18,400 You know, we all want success. We all want to want to help our citizens. We al 952 01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:23,040 all want to have a long sustainable uh place for our kids to grow up and our 953 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:27,280 grandkids to grow up. So, I'll take any questions if you have any right now. And 954 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:33,920 I think I did okay on time. I don't know. 955 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:40,640 » That was a lot of information. the uh I'm aware of we're at a tier three now. 956 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:46,800 We get these uh wells in, maybe we can move up to a tier four. 957 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:49,679 We're going in the right direction. It's it's frustrating when it takes so 958 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,679 long. >> Yes. 959 01:16:52,800 --> 01:17:04,159 I was blown away when I found out how many people the the Commonwealth of 960 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:10,400 Virginia has that uh dedicated to international business. How many people 961 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:16,360 they have dedicated to to visiting and trying to draw international business is 962 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,360 really key. 963 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:26,800 Yeah, they have they have offices with both 964 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:30,840 represent agenda. >> I think they count those general 965 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:41,360 » but it actually goes two ways. They're they're there to help sell these brands 966 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:48,080 and also I've done this in Europe. I'll go over 967 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:54,880 people point that hold my hand all those types of things help on the outside for 968 01:17:50,320 --> 01:18:02,480 us to market ourselves. >> Well, I think the gap alliance is going 969 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:09,600 to help us. Uh, we've got uh Anthony Carver is a real estate developer 970 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:16,159 and uh when he went down to the meeting in Virginia State, he sat at your table 971 01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:20,400 and he got to meet Nora and and Roxan and 972 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:25,360 he's already politic with him and says, you know, if you get a a an inquiry that 973 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:31,600 you can't handle, let me know about it. Maybe maybe Amelia can do it, you know. 974 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:35,920 So, uh, Ameilia is of the three, we're we don't have anything going on like 975 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:42,960 they do. They've got a lot of stuff going on. So, but there all three of the 976 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:46,960 both the directors are uh aware of that and aware of our Commerce Park over 977 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:50,960 here. They've already we've already had some inquiries. 978 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:54,960 Well, that was one thing Liz and I we before we approached the subject about 979 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:59,600 the regional thing, we looked at a lot of detail about what are the common 980 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:05,360 things, what are the uncommon things, but also what are some some synergies 981 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:11,120 and I think from a product standpoint, site standpoint, the three are great 982 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:15,600 because Gland is probably more advanced when it comes to sites. 983 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:20,080 Palotan is trying to get there and you guys have got a nice piece of property 984 01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:24,960 but you can attract different >> different sectors and different types of 985 01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:28,000 companies that maybe don't want to be in a power tanner because there's no sites 986 01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:29,600 for >> that size. 987 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,679 » Yes. >> But maybe hey here you go. Plus we look 988 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:37,120 at it I thought about this the other day. I was talking to Liz about it. You 989 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,280 think about this for a minute. You're kind of a gateway to the Richmond 990 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:46,960 Petersburg metro area, but you're also gateway the middle part of Parksville, 991 01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:52,159 Lynchburg, those types of places. So, you've got opportunity to attract 992 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:57,199 » both ways more both ways. Yeah. Well, I keep having it in the back of my mind 993 01:19:53,520 --> 01:20:02,960 that when they uh do the 288 extension and business parks going to come out 994 01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:09,600 there and they're going to have um no telling what, but uh maybe we would fit 995 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:16,960 in for some uh ancillary business, you know, but we support them and it's what 996 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:21,120 10 minutes away. Yeah, it's a ways away, but 997 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:25,360 got to have a vision, I guess. Have you seen any uh these developments that that 998 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:29,520 kind of located or center around agriculture? I look at what Ameilia 999 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:34,560 brings. You know, we're an agricultural community. That's our basis. A lot of 1000 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:38,800 emphasis now, you know, on food, less processed, 1001 01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:43,440 um improving the quality of really food being less processed. And what we offer 1002 01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:48,480 is access here of food is from right here. So, for example, meat processor, 1003 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:54,239 you know, there's demand for locally processed meat. Um, and I didn't know if 1004 01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:57,840 you had any examples of Nelson with the 151's kind of in that way. They could 1005 01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:03,360 use local wheat, but that you're actually seeing a decrease in drinking 1006 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:06,400 and the the Z's and and millennials. So, that to me, that's kind of something 1007 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:10,560 like the beer train was good 15 years ago, but it's y'all food thing is hot 1008 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,640 now. I got a 27 year old, >> she doesn't she makes her own food, no 1009 01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:19,760 process, and she lives in on Monument Avenue. Friends are the same way. 1010 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:22,880 » Yeah. So I I kind of see like that's the attractiveness of millia like you said 1011 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:26,800 we're the more agricultural of the three. So we literally could be the 1012 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,679 place that starts to generate that. You see a lot of interest in power farm to 1013 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:35,440 tableland also higher income areas whether if you had any examples of where 1014 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:40,000 that could be leveraged. >> Yeah. Well a couple things 1015 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:45,199 and this is interesting. My last executive director position with 1016 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:51,280 the regional group was Virginia's growth alliance and in the last year before 1017 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:55,040 that closed down I left I think we had three or four processing plants. Now 1018 01:21:53,520 --> 01:22:00,159 these weren't big operations but they were big processing small processing 1019 01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:06,159 plants and a lot of those come down. Um but as far 1020 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:09,199 as food hubs is another thing. It's food hubs and I don't know if you're familiar 1021 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:14,080 with a food hub or not, but it's they've been around for a while, but they're 1022 01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:18,880 kind of go on steroids now where they'll have a facility and it's it can 1023 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:23,760 serve like four or five different purposes. Number one, you can have 1024 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:29,040 somebody who does nothing but packaging for you know for crops. So they package 1025 01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:32,800 it up, process that type of thing. It's a pleasure to farmers to bring it's 1026 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:37,360 almost like a co-op bring our stuff there. consolidate it will you know go 1027 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:42,880 off and sell it somewhere. It can also be for small food production. It can be 1028 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:47,600 for labeling and marketing. You have a market and a lot of that is going on 1029 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:53,280 right now city and you know you're right. A lot of it can be just organic 1030 01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:59,440 or minimally processed foods that type of the other thing that 1031 01:22:56,639 --> 01:23:03,600 I almost hate to mention it because it's a great idea. There's a lot of interest 1032 01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:07,600 in it. There have been some big companies set up but I think you can 1033 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:11,120 also do it on a smaller scale. That's indoor growing. 1034 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:14,880 that's control environmental agriculture. People think, you know, 1035 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:19,440 it's got to be this huge building, really tall, but you they're modular 1036 01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:25,360 units. They're people who are doing Cay within containers, shipping containers. 1037 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:29,280 They they just instrument, put lights in them, and do things they grow crops in. 1038 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:33,600 So, there's a lot of stuff like that. And there are programs for that like the 1039 01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:39,120 high tunnel operations through the extension service which is something if 1040 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:43,360 we can line those entities up EDA agriculture the programs that exist and 1041 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,719 then because people looked at the thing with Taylor Farms 1042 01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:51,040 » I mean my wife stopped buying vegetables our our grocery bill went down but we 1043 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:54,320 didn't buy any kind of stuff like you know berries all sorts of things because 1044 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:59,360 people were scared to buy anything. >> Yeah. You know, nobody wants to sell 1045 01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:04,239 explosive problems. So, but it does show people all of a 1046 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:07,760 sudden I watched the Pan farmers market which was they had moved it and the 1047 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:11,920 tenants was dropping off and then about a month ago exploded people going there 1048 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:16,080 and the farmers markets we've tried in this area. I don't think they're nearly 1049 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:21,280 a answer, but the process and being able to get into being able to encourage that 1050 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:24,639 and leverage what we do well already instead of like you mentioned 1051 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:28,159 necessarily depending on >> a method where we're trying to put 1052 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:31,280 different businesses in the site. What if we took advantage of what we had 1053 01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:34,480 locally and kind of funneled through that because I don't think the 1054 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:37,280 importance on food is going to go down. >> If anything in the US is going to go up 1055 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,719 because we're starting to outsource more of our agriculture now we're getting 1056 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:44,480 contamination water stuff is coming back. a screw worm. I mean, there's all 1057 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:49,360 sorts of people worrying about where their food's coming from. So, if you 1058 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:54,239 kind of get ahead of that and then that's what we do well already. 1059 01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:58,719 » Do do you have a cooperative where you you bulk your product and 1060 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:02,719 » I'm completely ignorant on that. That's what I was asking. I I still just do we 1061 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:07,360 just mostly production something you know I say guys that grow beef here 1062 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,880 mostly sell some sell direct but still the bulk sell it through the auction 1063 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:15,199 system. So, but if you had a system you sell here and you have, you know, Amelia 1064 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:18,960 brand beef and I think people would snatch snatch that up, you know, it it 1065 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,520 be something they know where it came from and when they see the stuff on the 1066 01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:24,320 news, they're not worried about it because their beef came from, you know, 1067 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,800 153. >> Okay. Rather than coming from some other 1068 01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:32,639 place and worried about what's in it and who did what. 1069 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:39,520 » Well, there reason I mentioned co I think it's great a great concept. You're 1070 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:44,639 great practice. I was uh in my youth in high school. I was trying to make some 1071 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:51,520 money for college and president I was working as a dishwasher and 1072 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:58,480 president inherited he was from Wisconsin. He inherited three cherry 1073 01:25:54,080 --> 01:26:03,360 farms in door town just here's Wisconsin here door county is up here lake 1074 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:08,400 Michigan bay it's all up there. So he hired a bunch of local kids to go out 1075 01:26:05,679 --> 01:26:13,600 pick cherries and I remember going out there summer it was great. First of all 1076 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:19,920 it was Swedish area tradition Swedish area. So they bring all these very young 1077 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:23,679 teenage waitresses over every year and work in the pancake house. But the 1078 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:29,199 bottom line was this. I just remember they didn't sell his he didn't sell his 1079 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:33,600 cherries direct. He he they had a co-op drive the truck down tank on the back 1080 01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:37,040 dump the load in there. All these farmers you remember consolidating and 1081 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:42,480 they were responsible marketing could sell it to do it. They split it and it 1082 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:48,320 was just it was just a good model and I know there are other places that have 1083 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:52,639 co-ops that specific jobs and co-ops that 1084 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:55,920 but having a facility like I mentioned where you bring all these spare ones 1085 01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:00,080 together process do some other things they can't 1086 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:06,000 just do on their own might be a good model for you that I'll try to send you 1087 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:11,760 some up in the valley. Yeah. 1088 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:18,120 » And see that that thing up in the valley I showed was more about I don't think 1089 01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:18,120 they have a 1090 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:26,719 fields of gold. That's not a co-op type thing. They're mainly marketing in terms 1091 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:32,679 of for both the locals the local crops individually local farm stands that 1092 01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:32,679 type. 1093 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,280 Dave, we want to thank you for coming in. I think 1094 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:44,800 » I hope this provided a lot of information here and I think it's good 1095 01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:49,199 that we captured on the on the video so we we want to find out go back and 1096 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:54,000 refresh our memory. We can do that. >> Well, if you got my card got any 1097 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:58,239 questions at all, reach out to me. Happy to answer reach out to Liz. She's the 1098 01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:04,719 much better looking part of our partnership. So, reach out to her and 1099 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:09,840 all have it done. And again, thank you for being a member of of GA. 1100 01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:14,000 Best days are ahead. >> Yeah. 1101 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:17,560 » What time do you have to be in Richmond? >> Our meeting thought 1102 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:28,000 » and we go to lunch. >> All right. How about uh entertain a 1103 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:31,239 motion to adjourn? So move. Second. >> Thank you.