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Good evening. Welcome to the inter-court of city council meeting of September 3rd, 2024.

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I'd like to call the meeting to order. Mr. Franciac, would you take the roll please?

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Mr. Fantini. Here. Mr. Young. Here. Mr. Walters. Here. Ms. Klee Lemongrat. Here. Ms. Moulton. Here.

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Mr. McDougal.

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Ms. Hubek. Here. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, I saw Mr. McDougal on there.

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Maybe we just didn't get as verbal. Here. Yeah, I missed the mute button. All right.

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All right, there we go. Thank you, Mr. McDougal.

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All right, would you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

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Okay, announcements and committee reports, just a couple of announcements for me.

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Just a reminder, back to school time.

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So the Anacorda School District is back tomorrow, September 4th.

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So there will be lots of kids crossing the streets and lots of parents and drop-off lines.

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So please be mindful and cautious and especially in school zones.

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And because sometimes the kids might not be and the parents also as they're getting back into the routine.

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So please everybody pay attention and have a great school year.

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The city and the Samish Indian nation met last Thursday.

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It's a quarterly meeting that we do with a good number of both our staffs.

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Of course, Chairman Wooten and myself and then again staff representing multiple departments.

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The highlights, Fadago Bay Road, Fadago Bay Lift Station, Early Learning Center, 16th Street,

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some dark fiber work, and the state grant that the nation received for looking at their Summit Park property and sewer.

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So that's timely with our sewer master plan that the city is working on.

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So we'll be working closely with them.

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Additionally, we're continuing the cooperation on the Trestle replacement study.

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And we continue to work with the Samish Nation on that project as well.

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But probably the big thing I wanted to highlight, especially for council,

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is in the coming weeks council will see what is known as the MSA,

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municipal service agreement.

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So the city had signed one of these previously and since expired.

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But essentially it is a fee in lieu of property taxes as the land goes into trust.

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So again, the staff has been working with the Samish Nation as we look to continue to provide those municipal services.

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but as those lands go into trust, they get removed from the property tax rolls.

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So, again, we're always happy that we have a cooperative relationship as we work through

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some of those municipal services.

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Next up, the public is invited to Naval Air Station Woodby Island Open House.

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This Saturday, September 7th, 9 to 3, the open house will include a 5K run around

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the flight line.

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With gates open at 7 a.m. for registration for the 5K, the flight line opens at

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at 9 a.m. for static displays of the airplanes that make a lot of noise, growlers, and P-8s,

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search and rescue, and K-9 demonstrations as well.

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I highlight this one, of course, some of you know I may have worked there for a couple

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years, but also it is a top five, and the Navy is a top five employer in the state of

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Washington, so it's a good opportunity to see where your tax dollars are going.

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And then finally, just a reminder, open for public comment.

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The City of Antiquitous has prepared an Americans with Disabilities Act transition plan for the public right of way to guide the city in removing accessibility barriers at curb ramps and pedestrian crossings.

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Public comment on the draft plan is open through September 15 and the plan is available for review on the city's website.

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So that's all from me and committee reports.

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I don't think the Housing Affordability Community Service Committee met.

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They did not.

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But there might be another report because it was an ad hoc meeting earlier.

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Mayor Miller.

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Mr. Walters.

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The Public Works Committee met right before this meeting.

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We discussed proposed ordinance that would build on our 2014 and 2018 pavement management resolutions.

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This ordinance would create a pavement maintenance fund in our accounting system with the objective

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of making it easier to save the amount of money annually that we need to spend to maintain

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our pavement condition and to make it easier for council to see how much we're spending

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on pavement maintenance, socking away for a project maybe that is larger than the

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annual allocation.

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It would reset our annual budget for pavement maintenance based on the new pavement condition

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index report that we saw at this meeting on August 12th, and it would set the allowed

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uses for that money.

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For instance, would we allow design work and sidewalks, staff time, but not we expect

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new street construction because the intent of the ordinance and the intent of our

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payment management work is preservation of the assets that we already have.

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Preservation and repair of the assets that we already have rather than construction

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of new.

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Any questions? Any other announcements or committee reports I may have missed?

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Okay, next up is agenda item 3B. This is Housing Authority Board

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appointment and this is an announcement. So I'm pleased to announce that I had

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three applicants for this position, but I have pointed Jim English to replace Amanda

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Hubek and this term will be effective through December 31st, 2025, so completing Ms. Hubek's

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time on the board and I appreciate her service to that board as well.

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All right, next up is item four, public comment.

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And I do have somebody signed up, but I think that's MJB or is it MJB?

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Okay, and I'll wait until we get to the public hearing for MJB.

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But any other member of the public wish to address the council on anything that's not on our agenda tonight?

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Okay, I will move on to our consent agenda items five, A and B. Council.

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I move to approve consent agenda items 5A and B.

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Second.

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Motion by Ms. Moulton, second by Mr. Young to approve consent agenda items A and B.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries.

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All right.

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We're on to item six, which is public hearings.

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We have two public hearings tonight.

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The first one, 6A.

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This is resolution 3163.

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increasing solid waste rates, and this is a discussion item with possible action.

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And Ms. Peck, I know you're, I can't drag it out that long,

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but I appreciate you being here and stepping up for Mr. Hogan.

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So, I know we saw all this last week and I think we have kind of some better news.

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We did. We've seen this for a couple of weeks now.

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I'm going to do just a quick review just for any new folks who might be joining us tonight.

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This resolution is to increase rates for solid waste based on the fact that the county is

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raising their rates accordingly.

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This table shows the rate changes outlined from September of this year through 2028.

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So the rates go from 131 up to 149 at the end of the rate increase period.

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Now into what I consider to be a little bit of new things.

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Upon further review of the rates, it turned out that the tipping portion of our rate fee structure

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was only encompassed for approximately 20% of the rate.

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So what we did is we went back and we looked at our rates and applying the increase that

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we needed to do in order to meet the increase from the county, we're going to propose an

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8% increase across the board for folks.

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What this does for us is it holds in place the current, I guess I'll call it a discount

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count for folks who have that smaller garbage tote, so the 21 gallon, this keeps that discount

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of roughly 18% if you think of a proportion pricing in place for them. And it essentially

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just, it makes for a much lower increase for folks at this point in time.

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So that's what we have. Again, it came down to, we just, we had a little bit of

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a miss on looking at what was in our rates and we think that this is a great item to go

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ahead and take forward for signature at this point. We're 100% confident we're right now.

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All right. Before I turn over to Council, any member that this is a public hearing and

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any member of the public wish to address the Council on this one? It wasn't intentional

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to show that we were going to really raise it high and then dial it back just to

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Make us look good, but it is a lot less painful to look at how I will admit

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All right counsel

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Mellor mr. Walters

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Maybe a quick question on the table here the first item is labeled

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service with discount you also have

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or service items with discount down below.

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I'm assuming the ones down below are low income discount.

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Yeah, Mr. Walters, that is correct.

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Those are the low income.

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The top one is just representing

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that we did hold in that proportion

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charge discount in there.

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Okay, and that, so they appear to be the same

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on this chart, but they're not the same

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in the resolution, right?

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I'm assuming you have to show them

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as the discount in the accounting system

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them because that's how Eden works to actually build people.

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We do.

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There's billing codes that are behind these.

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These are simply just labels.

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But there's actual codes that are behind the magic so that

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folks who are actually eligible for the discount rate get

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the actual discounted rate.

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For example, for the 21 gallon, that's the

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adjusted rate of 864.

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Whereas folks who are not part of the official discount

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program, they will be billed for the 21 gallon tote at the 1234 percent.

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Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I think I think I understand how you're represented

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in here. And I think it's, in some ways, clear in the resolution. So it makes sense to me.

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Thank you.

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Of course.

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Any other questions,

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comments?

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Mr. Young.

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Thank you. You know, I'm in agreement. I really am. I just thought,

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that given the number of phone calls I've got about trying to push back on any

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rate increase I would acknowledge that but I do believe that this is just a

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necessary part of who we are what we've got to do as a city. So yes thank you

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just wanted to acknowledge that. Thank you Mr. Young.

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All right this is a

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possible action if council wants to take action you're welcome to do so.

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I move to close the public hearing and approve resolution 3163, updating the unified fee schedule with increased solid waste rates.

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Motion by Mr. Young and a second by Mr. Walters.

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I will close the public hearing at this time and any additional discussion council.

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Fantastic. Thank you all.

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All right, so no additional discussion, so a motion by Mr. Young, second by Mr. Walters to approve resolution 3163.

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Mr. Franciac, vote please.

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Mr. Young, yes.

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Mr. Walters.

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Yes.

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Ms. Cleveland McGrath.

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Yes.

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Ms. Moulton.

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Yes.

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Mr. McDougal.

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Yes.

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Ms. Hubek.

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Yes.

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Mr. Pantini.

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Yes.

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Motion carries.

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Okay, thank you. We're on to item 6b. This is also a public hearing and I do have somebody

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City signed up, so I will not forget. Ordinance 4087, MJB properties, vacation application for

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streets, rights of way. This is a discussion item with possible action and again it is a

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public hearing. And Ms. Sweatnam will introduce.

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Thank you, Mayor Miller, members of council, members of the audience. So tonight I am

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I'm introducing a petition submitted by MJB Properties LLC to vacate some portions of our

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Avenue and 20th Street.

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So to provide the standards for vacation, AMC section 125050 requires a public hearing

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before a petition for vacation can be granted.

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And following the hearing, Council then makes a decision about whether to vacate

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the street or alley or not.

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And in evaluating that application, Council must consider the factors that are outlined

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in the Code Act section 1250-060.

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So those factors are whether a change of use or vacation of the street will provide a significant

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benefit to the public, whether the street is neither currently required for public

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public use or access nor anticipated to be needed in the future, whether the substitution

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of a new and different public way would be more useful to the public, whether possible

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future public uses may require the right-of-way, and whether there were objections to the

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proposed vacation.

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Also required in the code is compensation, which is laid out at section 1250-100.

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That requires full fair market value of the area to be vacated, to be paid to the city,

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for those public streets that have been in existence for 25 years or more,

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which is almost all of them, I think, in Anacordis.

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There is a provision in the code that allows for alternative compensation.

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That's not on the table in this particular petition.

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So MJB has submitted a proposal,

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and the overview of that proposal is they have requested the vacation

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of three portions of our Avenue and 20th Street,

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and this would require relocation of a city-owned restroom

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that's located in that area.

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So the three areas that are contiguous are colored here.

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Area A, which is in yellow, consists of 8,000 square feet.

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Area B, which is this portion in green, consists of 49,114 square feet.

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This is the section of right-of-way that the bathroom that's funded by an RCO grant is currently located on.

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And then Area C is 9,246 square feet.

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In exchange for the vacation of these areas of right-of-way,

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MJB has proposed to pay the city the sum of one million dollars and that would compensate

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the city for the value of the area to be vacated and also cover the costs of relocating the

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existing restroom to a new location.

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So I know we like maps.

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Here's an aerial map of the area to be vacated.

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you can see this area here within our Avenue is the parking area that serves

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the bathroom that's located right here and the as I mentioned and put in the

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ordinance and in the white paper in your packet this bathroom was constructed

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with funds from the RCO office the Recreation Conservation Office of the

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State of Washington and so because it was grant funded the city will need to

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move it to a different location and by move I don't mean actually move the

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building but demolish and build a new one and the new location that staff have

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proposed is along the Tommy Thompson trail between the Ben Rootscape Park and

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the trail itself.

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So the compensation piece, so as I mentioned the area to be

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vacated is 66,360 square feet in the CM zone and the applicant

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provided an appraisal that meets all the criteria in the code that sets that value at $730,000.

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In addition to that amount that they're proposing to pay, the $1 million,

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MJB has also offered to grant to the city a temporary easement for up to two years.

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So either two years or as soon as the new restroom gets constructed

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to allow the public to continue to have that public restroom available.

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They've also offered to cover the costs and take whatever actions are necessary

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to demolish the old restroom once the easement is expired.

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And I want to just mention I had a conversation shortly before this meeting

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with Mr. Blaise, who represents MJB,

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And he pointed out a discrepancy in the ordinance as proposed.

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So I just want to mention Section 4 is the section of the ordinance.

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And I apologize I didn't put the language in the slide.

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It's happened right before the council meeting.

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But Section 4 talks about that old restroom demolition.

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And as it is drafted in the ordinance,

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it says that MJB will demolish the existing city restroom

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and adjacent parking lot. Once the city has completed construction of the new restroom

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and parking lot, that restroom and parking lot are open and the temporary easement granted

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to the city pursuant to the temporary easement paragraph is extinguished. And Mr. Blaise

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made a good point that that easement is only good for up to two years. So theoretically

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if the city did not move forward in that two-year period with the demolition of

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I'm sorry, with the construction of the new restroom,

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the public would no longer have access to the old restroom.

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So that makes sense, and I appreciated him

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bringing that up as a clarification.

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So what I'm proposing is that in the draft

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that's presented, we strike the reference

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to the city having completed construction

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of the new city restroom and parking lot,

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the new restroom and parking lot are opened

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and so that that section would read,

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MJB will demolish the existing city restroom

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and adjacent parking lot once the temporary easement

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granted to the city pursuant to paragraph 3.2 above

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is extinguished.

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And that makes a lot more sense to me

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and seems to align with what they've offered

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in their proposal.

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So staff recommendations.

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Staff have reviewed the application

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and recommend approval.

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The public will benefit through the development of a public esplanade on the MJB property,

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which can proceed once this vacation is granted.

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The area to be vacated is not needed now nor anticipated to be needed in the future.

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A new and improved street alignment will serve the public's needs and the proposed compensation

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by MJB meets the requirements in the code.

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I wanted to point out that while we're vacating those areas, there's also a plan that I'm

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not going to talk about in the long-plat application to rededicate public streets in that area

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in a different alignment.

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But that will be coming with the upcoming long-plat application.

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Mayor Miller.

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Mr. Walters.

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Back up one slide there, your second bullet about the public esplanade, is it correct to

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say that that is really linked to this vacation?

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I don't think it's correct to say that that's linked to this vacation.

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It's a logical thing.

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It's a factor that staff evaluated in communication with the applicant based on proposed future

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plans for the project, but not a requirement of this vacation ordinance as drafted.

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And do you have text you can put on the screen for a replacement section for, maybe later

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even, or do we even need section for?

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Because if we proceed with the vacation and we build new bathrooms with the money they

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give us, do we care what they do with the old bathrooms?

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It's a fair point. I think it is a benefit to the city because if the city, I mean, I guess that's true once it's vacated.

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It would resolve the question about whether the city needed to remove the improvements from that area.

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And so I think for the point of clarity, we just make it clear that that is additional value added to the city to not have to cover the cost of demolition.

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So my recommendation would be to leave it in and I apologize that I don't have language to put up.

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I can try to find the ordinance in the packet while you're discussing.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So this is a public hearing and I'll give the applicant an opportunity if the applicant wants to come up

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and say anything or have the public go first.

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It's up to you.

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All right, so I do have somebody signed up, so if you sign up, you always get to go first.

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Theresa Baker, come on up,

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and you can say your name again in city.

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Theresa Baker, Anna Cordes.

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Thank you.

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I have one question.

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My first point was answered already in that I was thinking that this is a good idea.

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I would like the bathroom move to the skate park, which sounds like that's where it's going to go,

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But I'm a little confused by the language in terms of you're going to be compensated a million dollars.

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Does that include building the new bathroom?

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Or are they paying for the new bathroom on top of that million dollars?

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That was not clear to me.

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The second thing I wanted to mention was that this million dollars is a kind of a windfall for the city,

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and it will get spent a million times over, I'm sure, before it gets spent actually,

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and I would like to just put in a plug for putting it in the road repair fund,

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especially for old town roads which could get top, you know,

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at the top of the list, K and M and 6 are beginning to look third world.

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And I guess that's all I have to ask. Thanks.

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Thank you.

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It is the position of the expert staff is that that money would be enough

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to compensate for the value of the property as well as moving the bathrooms

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and rebuilding the bathrooms.

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That's why the staff has recommended approval.

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All right, anybody else wish to comment?

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Yeah, come on up.

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I know you know the drill.

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Brian Wetscher, Anacortis.

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In the end of last year, I had the opportunity to review some of the permit requests

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and Complan changes that ostensibly MJB was requesting on this property,

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including, and I mostly spent my time reviewing the JARPA permit,

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permit, which I'm not sure whether the JARPA permit has been issued.

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At that time, when

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I reviewed the JARPA permit, some of the paperwork indicated that in their calculation of the

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site for JARPA numbers, basically, they had incorporated this, the request of vacation

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as a part of the property in whole.

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Several other places in the Jarpa permit request,

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they did not include those numbers.

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Their conclusive numbers on the end, though,

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did include that as part of the whole permit plan.

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I wondered about that

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and whether that had been approved through Jarpa,

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because when they speak of the Esplanade,

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If they're speaking of the Esplanade that is on the eastern shoreline of this property,

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that is a very questionable part of the Jarpa permit.

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In reviewing the maps of the Jarpa permit, this was up to 30 feet wide, up to paved,

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and in numerous places, it ran on their own map over the ordinary high watermark,

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which is almost impossible.

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So when we're looking at this vacation as a part of this whole package,

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I would like to at least reflect on whether or not their JARPA is completed

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and whether or not they're going to get that JARPA permit

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because it seems that this vacation is an integral part of the JARPA permit request.

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And I believe a number of other of the permit requests.

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So it seems, I don't want to say bait and switch, but, you know, were the numbers calculated

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before the vacation, assuming that the vacation would happen, and do we have an alternative

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plan for instance, if you turn down this vacation tonight, would that invalidate the

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existing JARPA permit application?

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So I have a lot of questions about it, and I would in the future like to review

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quite extensively the JARPA permit with the Council for some of what I found is glaring

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details and I had, I did register those comments at the end of last year so I would have, like

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to have a further conversation about that to begin with but also just to reflect on when

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we're approving or disapproving this vacation.

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How is this going to fit in?

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Okay.

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I think I can probably help a little bit on that. And Ms. Swetnam can correct me if

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I'm wrong, but it does have two other permits in work with the city. One is a long plaid application

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in the other is a substantial shoreline permit.

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I think I got those.

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Shrille and substantial development permit.

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Yeah, and I don't know the status of MJB's JARPA process,

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but I do know that when an applicant is doing environmental analysis,

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whether it's under CIPA or JARPA as they're moving forward with a project like this,

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it is they should put in that any potential environmental impact

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that could come up from the development.

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So it would be appropriate to put in the vacation area, even though there's some uncertainty

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at that point about whether it actually will be granted by the city.

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But that's what allows the full evaluation of potential impacts under that evaluation.

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Can I try to finish up with the public, or did you have something to explain?

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I think it's relevant because I don't remember what Jarpa stands for.

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and I'm not sure everyone else is there.

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Joint aquatic resources permit application.

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I would have guessed poorly.

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Another one of those acronyms.

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Okay, thank you.

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Sorry to interrupt.

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No, that's good.

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I just want to make sure I want to get the public hearing and any other members of the

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public.

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Okay.

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Does the applicant want to come on up?

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Hi, council members.

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My name is Jimmy Blaze, Kirkland, Washington.

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I represent MJB properties and want to first of all thank staff and the Mayor for the couple changes and tweaks to the language here of the ordinance.

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As Ms. Swetnam mentioned, did discuss that section four with her before and we agree with the suggested language of stopping after once done and then again picking up at temporary easement and striking the language in between.

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We believe that this is a fair proposal for the city.

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As Ms. Whitman also mentioned, the alternative compensation on top of just the million dollars of the temporary construction easement for two years of using that property.

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We didn't actually put a value on that, but certainly there is an intrinsic value to that.

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And then obviously our own cost for demolishing and getting rid of the existing bathroom and pavement and everything else.

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We believe this also leads to a better bathroom location for the city's future use

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for the skateboard park and any facilities that may be built around there in the future.

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And I look forward to this moving forward and this being the first of many steps in the actual permit process

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for our overall project is we have to kind of get through this vacation request to move on to the long plat,

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which will then lead into the in-water SIPA JARPA applications

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and there'll be much more discussion on that in the future here.

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So, appreciate consideration of this and the approval.

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And just for the public's knowledge, you know, the staff has been working with MJB for a long time to try to figure out what is the most logical process when it comes to permitting and when to bring it to council.

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So, we're trying to be as transparent as possible as we move forward.

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All right. Anybody else want to comment on this?

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All right, council. All right, now it's your time. Council.

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Mayor Miller.

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Ms. Moulton.

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So, in the original agreement, there was a restroom access easement that's, well, first

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of all, I do want to say that I think that this does have great public benefit of moving

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the restroom and pretty much what Mr. Blaze said about it, I agree.

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My question is about a restroom access easement that was in the original agreement that

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has since been taken out, and it was about a permanent easement

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to allow access to the relocated restroom and parking lot

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for construction, ongoing maintenance,

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and public access to the restroom and parking area.

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It's since been taken out, but I'm confused about that.

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And so I'd love some clarity.

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Great, yeah, thanks for asking that.

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As the mayor said, there's been a lot of discussions

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both internal and with MJB representatives

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about this vacation and what should happen with the restroom.

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And so there really wasn't a meeting of the minds with NJB and the city on that permanent easement.

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I think there's still some uncertainty about how they're parking lot locations for city access to the skate park.

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And the kind of the takeaway from staff was, you know, if NJB didn't intend to offer that easement as part of their application,

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And they're still fairly compensating the city with the other with the other things that they're offering. And you know, it'll be a curb cut for the city to put a new access in there to get to the new location, which is which is something that that can be

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accomplished reasonably.

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Okay, thank you. So the restrooms a new location. There's MJB property surrounding that is that we're there's MJB property immediately to the south.

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of the skate park property.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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And I think to follow up on that, the original request was kind of as a convenience, but it's

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not necessary that we'll be able to curb cut and access our property without that.

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Mr. Wolters.

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I'm supportive of moving this forward.

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I think we have a pretty simple request here.

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Bizarre bit of right-of-way that by historical accident we end up with here.

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Assuming Mr. Wetcher is right about the other permits applications that are out there, yes,

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maybe MJB might have to amend other permit applications if they didn't get the vacation,

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or maybe even if they did get the vacation.

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But I don't think that affects whether the vacation should go forward.

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The vacation is happening first, the other is coming second.

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We'll have to conform to whatever the facts are on the ground.

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I agree with Ms. Moulton that very clearly we will benefit from this change.

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We benefit not at all from this weird piece of right-of-way

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We will benefit from a better set of bathrooms

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There has been some talk of constructing new bathrooms. I would like us to look at purchasing

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New bathrooms specifically Portland Lou style bathrooms

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They've got those at Windjammer Park in Oak Harbor

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They've got those down on the Vancouver waterfront the Vancouver waterfront potentially being a pretty good model for what we could

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accomplished on our waterfront here. I was in Vancouver a couple months ago for a conference

461
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and I saw they were adding more of these. They're single stalls. They're $120,000 apiece.

462
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:30,110
They're gender-neutral obviously because they're single occupancy. So if we have four stalls

463
00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:36,390
here, if we replaced them with single occupancy stalls, maybe we could do fewer stalls and

464
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:44,050
have the same amount of capacity. Most importantly, they recognize the new reality that we are

465
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:52,770
in, especially with fentanyl and homelessness, and they are designed to prevent people from

466
00:37:53,670 --> 00:38:00,870
camping in a restroom and from hiding in a restroom because they are sort of open at

467
00:38:00,870 --> 00:38:06,470
at the bottom, and you can tell if somebody's passed out on the floor, and that's simply

468
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:11,750
the reality we're living in. And so I just want to be an advocate for that right now

469
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:18,750
at this stage while it's on our radar. I think it also potentially could be cheaper than

470
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:24,990
building a standalone structure. I am very hopeful that we will set aside any additional

471
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:28,450
money we have left over after moving the bathrooms, because there's going to be

472
00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:32,610
a lot of additional work that we're going to need to accomplish as the new development

473
00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:38,150
goes in there. And for other beautification efforts, you know, there's that. I think maybe

474
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:45,170
you had a slide of the kind of sad art at the north end, north of the skate park. There's

475
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:46,230
more that we can do there.

476
00:38:48,850 --> 00:38:50,790
Section, yeah, that's the one.

477
00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:54,310
At a minimum, you know,

478
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:56,510
Being able to mow around that would be great.

479
00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:03,600
But I definitely think that moving this forward

480
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,920
and getting going with this development is something that's in the best interest of the city.

481
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:16,700
I would ask if I have the Section 4 language right.

482
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:21,820
I've said it a couple of times, but you wanted...

483
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:25,820
you wanted to strike after the word once?

484
00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:27,620
Correct.

485
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,620
Until we get to the temporary easement?

486
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,440
Correct.

487
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,660
And leave the rest?

488
00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:33,300
Yes.

489
00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:33,720
Yeah.

490
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,640
And it's 3.2.

491
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:36,860
Right.

492
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,620
Also remove that reference to sub point A, which I did in the draft that will get

493
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:42,480
executed if it's adopted.

494
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,480
Okay.

495
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:43,800
Perfect.

496
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:44,520
All right.

497
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,620
Well, then I think I'm clear on what the language is that you want, and I'd

498
00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:49,100
be supportive of moving this forward now.

499
00:39:52,400 --> 00:40:05,720
You know, overall I'm very much in support. I think we've hashed out a lot of stuff and clarity comes as we've continued to communicate and work around the things that needed to be done.

500
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,500
So I'm pretty much interested in moving this forward. But, you know, I've got a question.

501
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,900
The property, there was some discussion of a pizza property by the skate park.

502
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,240
Is that discussion very separate from this?

503
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:29,780
I think it was owned by MJB and there was some discussion of maybe some type of center,

504
00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:32,500
Boys and Girls Club or something like that.

505
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,060
And that's a separate discussion from this.

506
00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:37,980
Is that still on the table?

507
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,740
I guess what I'm just trying to get to is see where we are on that and still move that forward.

508
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,740
I think that is a separate discussion.

509
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,740
Okay. All right. I'm happy. Thank you.

510
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:49,360
All

511
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:59,170
right, anybody else can I add one thing? Yeah, because this is an ordinance if council wants to take action on it tonight

512
00:40:59,170 --> 00:41:05,930
I'd recommend waiving the to read rule. Otherwise, we can bring it back next week, and I also have to close the public hearing

513
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:10,250
It gets head nods from the people who know how to run here Miller

514
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:17,090
Mr. Fantini, so I'm also very much in favor of this and excited that it's a step towards

515
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:21,630
more happening down there, hopefully, which is a great thing,

516
00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:25,110
as I think that a lot of us in the community have kind of watched

517
00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:29,550
and waited anxiously, so this is a good step forward.

518
00:41:30,190 --> 00:41:33,650
I would just, and maybe I'll be the lone voice on that,

519
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:37,730
and this is fine, but I would caution against waiting the to read rule

520
00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:41,490
tonight, unless there's an urgency to execute this tonight,

521
00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:45,570
only because I feel like when anything comes along that is

522
00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:51,770
is MJB. Everybody gets very excited about it. And I just think holding to that to read

523
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:57,110
rule, if it's not going to hurt anything. And again, I'm in support of doing this, but

524
00:41:57,110 --> 00:42:03,810
I'm also in support of the public having time to come forward and comment as well. So that's

525
00:42:03,810 --> 00:42:05,710
just my two cents on that.

526
00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:13,110
I think that means you'd like me to keep the public hearing open. And, well, that's

527
00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:16,330
step one. It's up to council to waive the to read rule, but I will have to close

528
00:42:16,330 --> 00:42:19,290
the public hearing if council wants to waive the two-year rule?

529
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:24,550
Mr. Walters?

530
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:31,430
I appreciate Mr. Fantini's desire to keep the public hearing open, although I tend to think

531
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:32,590
this is just really straightforward.

532
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:40,790
So I would also be supportive of moving it forward tonight without waiting for another

533
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:41,010
meeting.

534
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:45,170
And one of the reasons is because, yeah, it is only a week.

535
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:47,210
I don't think that the week is significant.

536
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:56,450
The problem is the weak compounds with the multiple years MJB's permit processes are laying around.

537
00:42:56,990 --> 00:43:02,330
So I think we actually owe it to them to move these things forward in a timely manner.

538
00:43:02,690 --> 00:43:07,790
If there were any controversy about it, I would think differently, but I think it's just quite straightforward.

539
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:08,090
forward.

540
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:16,520
Mayor Miller.

541
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:17,100
Ms. Malton.

542
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:24,840
I also, the sense I'm getting is that we all see the public benefit and we all feel comfortable

543
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,400
in moving it forward.

544
00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:33,040
So I would be in support of waving a two-read rule in this instance.

545
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,420
And I do agree that if there were any controversy or we had any outstanding questions among

546
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:43,820
us that that would be a that would be a keep the two read for sure but I'm fine

547
00:43:43,820 --> 00:43:49,020
with waving it and and I will remind the public there will be more times where

548
00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:54,560
mgb will be here and talking to council about this project so this is not far

549
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,330
from the last time all right so it seems like I'm looking for a motion then

550
00:44:00,330 --> 00:44:03,050
from council there

551
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:10,620
Miller mr. Walters I move that we close the public

552
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:16,400
public hearing you want to take it separately close the public hearing wave

553
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,620
the two re-rule and approve the ordinance as presented with the amendment

554
00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:22,140
that Ms. Swetnam articulated.

555
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:29,580
Second. All right motion by Mr. Walters and a second

556
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:38,320
by Ms. Cleveland McGrath to waive the two re-rule and approve ordinance 4087

557
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,880
seven

558
00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:42,700
with the amendments as uh...

559
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:43,120
discussed

560
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,620
any additional discussion

561
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
miller mister young thank you

562
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,400
no just uh... you know i'm ready to move it forward but i wanted to acknowledge

563
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,960
mister fentini's issue of

564
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,960
waving the two-read rule and we don't want

565
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:13,260
I want to sort of for it to happen frequently as necessary and I hear that caution, but I do agree that now we should move it forward.

566
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:25,240
Okay, close the public hearing at this point before the take it to a vote. I guess I need to take it to a vote first since there was a motion to close the public hearing.

567
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,300
So, any additional discussion?

568
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:29,220
Okay.

569
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Mr. Franciac, take the vote, please.

570
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:35,850
Mr. Walters?

571
00:45:37,090 --> 00:45:37,290
Yes.

572
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:38,750
Ms. Cleveland McGrath?

573
00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:39,190
Yes.

574
00:45:39,730 --> 00:45:40,350
Ms. Moulton?

575
00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:40,810
Yes.

576
00:45:41,410 --> 00:45:42,270
Mr. McDougal?

577
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:43,450
Yes.

578
00:45:44,130 --> 00:45:44,930
Ms. Hubek?

579
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:45,750
Yes.

580
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:47,290
Mr. Vantini?

581
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:48,390
Yes.

582
00:45:49,070 --> 00:45:49,650
Mr. Young?

583
00:45:49,930 --> 00:45:50,130
Yes.

584
00:45:50,650 --> 00:45:51,190
Motion carries.

585
00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:52,410
Thank you.

586
00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:52,470
All right.

587
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:55,170
Just for the record, the public hearing is closed, and thank you for that.

588
00:45:55,810 --> 00:46:06,890
All right, next is Other Business, Item 7A, and this is Partnering with the Port of Anacortis to Rebuild Second Street and O Avenue Intersection.

589
00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:10,210
This is an action item. Mr. Rahm.

590
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,260
Good evening, Mayor and Council. Before you tonight, this is kind of an odd one.

591
00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:25,640
It's not asking for your confirmation of the amount, really.

592
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,340
it's more of a blessing for us to move forward with the interlocal agreement with the port

593
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:37,280
of Anacortis. We signed this interlocal agreement in 2023 that allows reciprocal property access

594
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:43,640
to conduct public works activities on each other's property. The L.A. contemplates

595
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:50,180
financially partnering on projects if mutually beneficial. The interlocal is not exactly

596
00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:54,720
clear about the authority to approve compensating the other party for requested work.

597
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:05,200
When the port design went to bid for the, it was their Curtis Worf project, which ends

598
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,860
at O in second. We agreed that it would be great to do the intersection there at O

599
00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:17,180
in second at the same time. So they included that in their design. They came back with

600
00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:21,540
a separate bid tab so when you get a bid from a contractor, you'll get a full bid.

601
00:47:22,380 --> 00:47:28,980
And their lowest bidder for that piece of work for a second I know is $116,780.48.

602
00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:37,100
By going this route and replacing this intersection, the city saves on design, mobilization,

603
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:41,020
demobilization, project management, just to name a few.

604
00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:46,220
The intersection is in poor shape and it needs to be reconstructed.

605
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:48,520
Let's see, what else?

606
00:47:49,460 --> 00:47:54,260
Just for a last statement, it's been nice working with the port.

607
00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:59,020
It's been super helpful and it's nice to work together on mutually beneficial projects.

608
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,440
So Brenda Tribble, she's the other person that's in there local.

609
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:07,120
It says, I have the authority just to approve these things, which I don't think.

610
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,940
and I'm not very comfortable doing that without you,

611
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:13,620
so, but Brenna's the other side of the coin on that,

612
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:14,420
and so she's here.

613
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,760
If you guys have any questions for the Port.

614
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:18,320
Yeah, and I think Council probably remembers

615
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,520
when we did this ILA, it realized that,

616
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,680
well, the Mayor doesn't have the authority at that number,

617
00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:26,280
so that's why it's in front of Council, so.

618
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:29,280
But before I turn it over, Councilor,

619
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,560
questions, any member of the public

620
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,380
wish to address this item?

621
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,820
All right, Council, questions.

622
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:45,740
this came up at our meeting earlier and I was just curious. First of all, it sounds really good and very reasonably priced.

623
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:54,160
Especially the cement concrete curb ramps at only $5,000 each. I don't want to get too much into the weeds,

624
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:58,300
but I feel like I've seen other contracts where they've been like $16,000 each. Is that right?

625
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:06,300
It depends on the location. So you can have an ADA curb ramp for $15,000 alone. But these are pretty basic.

626
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,880
Will they be ADA compliant then?

627
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:09,460
Oh, yeah.

628
00:49:10,180 --> 00:49:19,000
Okay. So this is just the way they are. And, I mean, if we can get – it seems like this would be nice if we could do it for this price other places.

629
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:27,680
It would be. Yeah, we did – we recently did a study for the ADA compliance project, which we'll bring into council later.

630
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:34,340
We had to average at $7,500 for an ADA ramp in Anacortis and down south it's $15,000.

631
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:37,180
Good to know.

632
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Mayor Miller.

633
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,240
Mr. Walters.

634
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:46,840
To delve a little further into that, is that because in this scope of work I think there's

635
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:53,400
four ADA ramps, but in some intersections maybe there might be more than that because

636
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,120
has assumedly how the stormwater is handled around the curb.

637
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,760
So you end up with two ramps and a weird little curb

638
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,860
that connecting them.

639
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,980
Is that some of the detail that goes into different pricing?

640
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,220
I think the big thing is you're doing four or not just,

641
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,900
so those price quotes I was throwing around,

642
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,860
those are just for one.

643
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:12,760
Okay.

644
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,560
Like if you just were gonna,

645
00:50:13,580 --> 00:50:16,400
like I'm gonna replace that 180 ramp alone,

646
00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:20,260
it's $7,500 here and down south it's 15 grand.

647
00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:21,420
Okay.

648
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:26,420
Mr. Young.

649
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,660
Unless there's any further discussion and given that these price points can rise.

650
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:34,980
Look, Tonya, Jake.

651
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:50,380
I moved that city council author as the mayor to sign contract 24-215-TRN-001 with Lakeside Industries Inc. in the amount of 508,200.

652
00:50:51,180 --> 00:50:52,080
Mr. Young.

653
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:58,920
I'm moving pretty fast, okay, gotcha, all right.

654
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,460
I'm sure Mr. Ray and we'll take it.

655
00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:01,800
Yeah, that's fine, we can do both of them.

656
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,020
Then you're ready for that one.

657
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,700
Sorry, I apologize for that.

658
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Doing it is quickly.

659
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:17,320
Mr. Fantini.

660
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:28,640
I moved to authorize the mayor to utilize ILA-23-184-IDS-001 to partner with the Port of Antiquitous to rebuild the intersection of O Avenue.

661
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:35,300
and second street. Second. Motion by Mr. Fantini and second by Mr. Young to

662
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:44,120
authorize the ILA in the amount of 116-780-48. Any additional discussion?

663
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:57,820
Mr. Frantziatic Bo please. Ms. Cleo McGrath. Yes. Ms. Moulton. Yes. Mr. McDougall. Yes. Ms. Hubek. Yes. Mr. Fantini.

664
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,000
Yes.

665
00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,980
Mr. Young.

666
00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:00,600
Yes.

667
00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:01,980
Mr. Walters.

668
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:02,740
Yes.

669
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:03,740
Motion carries.

670
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:04,940
All right.

671
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:05,400
Thank you.

672
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:09,280
And we continue to look forward to working with the port on various projects.

673
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,220
Okay.

674
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,360
Next up is 7B.

675
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:13,500
This is a contract award.

676
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,200
2024, a non-arterial roadway project.

677
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:21,820
And probably should be an S on that, but it's a discussion item with possible action

678
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:22,640
and Mr. Rayham.

679
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:24,960
All right.

680
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:34,700
is a contract with Lakeside Industries Incorporated in the amount of $508,208 to overlay K-Way,

681
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:43,660
San Juan Avenue, Guamus View, and O Avenue. And the maps are right here. These are abutting

682
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:50,020
or nice and convenient to do. You guys just passed a contract with Lakeside Industries to

683
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:53,940
do a bunch of other paving. So between this project, that project, and a couple other

684
00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:57,300
our little ones were over the $1.8 million target for the year.

685
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,940
So there's that part of it.

686
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,120
But these roads were all in pretty poor condition there

687
00:53:02,580 --> 00:53:06,400
on our PCI index to be replaced in prior years or this year.

688
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,400
So we tagged them on there and added them to,

689
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,520
this was not an add-on contract.

690
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,300
This was that we went back out to bid

691
00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:17,360
and we had two bids and Lakeside was the lowest bidder.

692
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:21,080
That's all I got.

693
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,180
All right.

694
00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:23,240
I can't help myself.

695
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,120
I got to read the history because I'm so excited

696
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,980
as being the broken record on council where did we already replace everything underneath

697
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:33,240
the ground? I was so happy to read access fiber system has been completed in this area

698
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:37,460
and the water mains in this area have also been updated. So we're not going to dig them

699
00:53:37,460 --> 00:53:40,880
up again is the idea. Anyway, all right, council, sorry for that.

700
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:42,080
Over to you.

701
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,340
Hey, Mr. Walters.

702
00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:47,780
So we also talked about this a little bit in the context of our proposed ordinance

703
00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:52,860
at our Public Works Committee meeting earlier. And one of the questions that came up

704
00:53:52,860 --> 00:54:01,420
is, are you going to be bringing to us a program for what streets we'll be going after

705
00:54:01,420 --> 00:54:05,280
for pavement management in future years?

706
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,080
Yeah.

707
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:11,740
So one thing that I believe you saw when I was on vacation, the consultant that actually

708
00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:15,760
does the pavement management plan, they created that.

709
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,480
That's one tool.

710
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,600
But then we have the transportation master plan is also another tool that we're developing

711
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:20,940
now.

712
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,240
Those combined will have a better on-layup for the next 10 plus years of where we think we're going to go year by year.

713
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,100
And of course these things change kind of around the edges, but for the kind of the meat of it.

714
00:54:31,580 --> 00:54:34,740
My goal is to make sure you can see 10 years out like what's going to get done.

715
00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:39,200
Instead of being the way we've done it since I've been here so far,

716
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,880
when we are picking roads that do need to be, that asphalt needs to be replaced, there's no doubt about it.

717
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:47,040
But like how those ones get selected is a bit of a mystery even to me at this point.

718
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,800
So that's why it's like that's why we need a longer term plan

719
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:58,340
So we all can see eyes wide open. This is kind of the progression of the roads and why we're doing them in that order and these roads are very

720
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,940
Disconnected, you know, they're not near each other

721
00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:09,200
I assume that we could obtain some economies of scale by doing more roads that are closer together

722
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:14,680
Well, the first lakeside industries contract that these are adjacent to those projects

723
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,480
I think one of them is kind of an odd ball of myself.

724
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,100
Yeah, Kingsway.

725
00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:18,820
Yeah, it's right by Kingsway.

726
00:55:19,660 --> 00:55:26,060
This is an example of where it didn't have a plan, but it's a good plan to piggyback on top of Lakeside's mobilization.

727
00:55:26,380 --> 00:55:28,040
So Kingsway is being done as well.

728
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,680
I think that's why their bid came on.

729
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:30,520
Exactly why their bid came on.

730
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,640
Yeah, $500,000 less than the other person because they're already here.

731
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,380
They're mobilized.

732
00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:35,100
Is that?

733
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,800
It is very supportive of my point then.

734
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,940
And I imagine that the transportation master plan

735
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:46,160
is going to be more focused on capacity projects.

736
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,860
Is it also going to integrate

737
00:55:47,860 --> 00:55:50,220
the pavement management preservation projects?

738
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:51,500
Yes, it will help.

739
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,580
It's more kind of like where are the routes?

740
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,460
Like where do we envision people to take freight

741
00:55:56,460 --> 00:55:57,660
or ride their bikes

742
00:55:57,660 --> 00:55:59,340
or what are the good pedestrian pathways

743
00:55:59,340 --> 00:56:01,620
and stuff like that where then we can start planning out

744
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:03,620
how many years is it gonna take us to fix

745
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,060
those things into the corridors that we envision?

746
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:11,020
And are we currently thinking that we're going to get that draft plan in 2025?

747
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,940
Early 2025, early 2024.

748
00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:15,920
Yeah, they're almost, they're getting close.

749
00:56:16,220 --> 00:56:16,440
Okay.

750
00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:20,160
And it informs the comprehensive plan, so I'm trying to get it done ahead of that schedule.

751
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:31,060
Will you bring us a list of proposed road preservation, street pavement preservation projects for the 2025 budget or just the amount?

752
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:34,880
In the past, we've just gotten the amount and we don't see the project.

753
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,880
For this year, unfortunately, I can't inform the CFP like I want to with the Transportation

754
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,600
Master Plan.

755
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:47,460
We are using the PCI, you know, the plan from the consultant that just kind of looks at the

756
00:56:47,460 --> 00:56:50,740
numbers and tells you these are the treatments that you need for each type of road.

757
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:51,900
Okay.

758
00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:55,700
And they give you a schedule too, but that's not always, you usually don't just follow

759
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:55,960
that.

760
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:57,740
There's other factors you take into consideration.

761
00:56:57,740 --> 00:56:57,820
Sure.

762
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,680
But yeah, my goal is to make sure you guys aren't going just every year you look

763
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,300
six years out.

764
00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:06,060
you need to look further with these planning efforts so you kind of get a

765
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:12,940
bigger picture of what you're after. Okay, thank you, yeah. Mayor Miller. Mr.

766
00:57:12,980 --> 00:57:18,040
Pantini. Yes, it'd be great I agree to have like a plan of how we do it but I

767
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,460
would point out that a lot of these roads they're in the war in my ward and

768
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:27,300
they are what I would call patchwork roads where a lot of the roads around

769
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:30,600
them have already been done and resurfaced in the last couple years

770
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:36,160
Whereas these are kind of some outlayers and some very obvious outlayers if you go through that.

771
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:42,340
So I do appreciate that there seems to be a plan to kind of, for lack of a better term, finish the neighborhood

772
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:45,960
rather than have a road here that's blank and a road here that's blank.

773
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,120
So I do appreciate that.

774
00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:49,300
Mr. Miller.

775
00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:50,080
Mr. Young.

776
00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:50,980
Thank you.

777
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:55,120
You know, I'm looking forward to moving this forward.

778
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:01,040
And, you know, I know you've done a tremendous amount of work in order to make this happen.

779
00:58:01,580 --> 00:58:08,020
When the consultant was here last time, I asked him about, we were looking at the PTI of roads

780
00:58:08,020 --> 00:58:13,380
and in his diagrams he had all of the roads in overlaid.

781
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:19,780
I requested a, you know, a map of the roads that are poor or less

782
00:58:19,780 --> 00:58:22,620
and he was indicating he was going to get that to us.

783
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:27,800
I'm not sure if we've got it, maybe I've missed it, but I just wanted to bring that

784
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,860
up to you so make possible you can remind him or her at some point to send that to us

785
00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:34,500
so we can see it.

786
00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:40,680
The benefit of that is also we begin to have discussions about where we want to go,

787
00:58:40,860 --> 00:58:43,180
how we're sort of approaching some of these things.

788
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:49,060
It also make it clear to us some of those roads that are just simply not up to par

789
00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:55,160
and what can we do, whether it's, you know, part of, you know, having machinery we do in

790
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,920
house, but just trying to figure out how we get there and it would be very helpful.

791
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:00,720
Thank you.

792
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:06,930
All right. Any other questions about this contract?

793
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:11,040
Mayor Miller?

794
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:11,920
Ms. Moulton.

795
00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:19,660
I move that the City Council authorize you to sign contract 24215 TRN001 with Lakeside

796
00:59:19,660 --> 00:59:28,060
industries and the amount of $508,280 to perform the 2024 non-arterial roadway project.

797
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,460
Second.

798
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,320
Motion by Ms. Moulton and a second by Ms. Hubek to approve the contract as presented.

799
00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:36,960
Any additional discussion?

800
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,660
Mr. Franciag, vote, please.

801
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:42,980
Ms. Moulton.

802
00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:43,940
Yes.

803
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,720
Mr. McDougal.

804
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:46,840
Yes.

805
00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:48,220
Ms. Hubek.

806
00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:49,040
Yes.

807
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,480
Mr. Fantini.

808
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Yes.

809
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:52,700
Mr. Young?

810
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,280
Yes.

811
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,580
Mr. Walters?

812
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:55,040
Yes.

813
00:59:55,660 --> 00:59:56,500
Ms. Clare McGrath?

814
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:56,800
Yes.

815
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:57,860
Motion carries.

816
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:58,740
Okay.

817
00:59:58,980 --> 00:59:59,320
Thank you.

818
00:59:59,540 --> 00:59:59,960
Next up.

819
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,720
Next up is 7 Charlie, 7C, interlocal agreement with Skagit County for Public Safety Technology

820
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:12,320
Services, better known as Spillman, discussion item, possible action, Chief Floyd presenting.

821
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Good evening, Mayor Miller, members of council. I'm here before you tonight requesting approval

822
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:28,540
of an interlocal agreement between City of Antiquartus and Skagit County for the Spillman

823
01:00:28,540 --> 01:00:35,160
system. The Spillman system is the primary system used by public safety entities in the

824
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,140
city of Antiquitous. And speaking on behalf of the police department, it is our records

825
01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:46,960
management system that we rely on. It is also the basic platform used by our 911 center

826
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:55,360
to input and dispatch calls. The system is owned by Skagit County and maintained

827
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,320
by Skagit County and we have been using that system

828
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,600
as other law enforcement agencies have

829
01:01:03,220 --> 01:01:07,240
since the mid-1990s. This interlocal agreement

830
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,020
would continue our use of that system through the end of 2027.

831
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:15,200
And I believe you have a copy of that

832
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,260
that's been provided to you in the packet. This system is

833
01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:23,100
based on the number of users and is built with the agency quarterly.

834
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:35,880
I've reviewed that, it's been through Ms. Sweatnam and also the input of our IT management staff

835
01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:44,960
to make sure that the city's IT firewalls are maintained as far as their integrity with

836
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,760
the use of the system.

837
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:52,100
So there's no further risk to the city as far as any potential hazards from using

838
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:52,920
the Spelman system.

839
01:01:57,980 --> 01:02:02,520
Can you talk about the cost over time of using the system?

840
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:13,340
So the Spilman system, as I mentioned, is the fees are outstructured with a few matrix,

841
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,740
one of the main ones being the number of users.

842
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:23,800
They tally the number of users county-wide and then divide that by the number of users

843
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:24,560
for the agency.

844
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:30,560
So, our use would be based upon how many Spilman users we have.

845
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:37,960
They also have the cost of maintaining that system and enhanced security features like

846
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:44,920
double factor authentication now requires us to use not only usernames and passwords

847
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,940
but a dongle basically to boot the program up.

848
01:02:49,940 --> 01:02:54,840
So the cost of maintaining that is burdened by the county.

849
01:02:55,660 --> 01:03:04,100
Our contributions to that are fairly small as far as what that cost is.

850
01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:09,780
I know that the 9-1-1 Center recently upgraded their portion

851
01:03:10,340 --> 01:03:12,380
to make the call taking more efficient.

852
01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:16,920
But all those costs have gone back to the county

853
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:23,010
and it's divided up amongst the user agencies.

854
01:03:23,230 --> 01:03:25,170
I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for, Mr. Walters.

855
01:03:25,450 --> 01:03:29,910
Yeah, I was wondering, has it increased significantly over time?

856
01:03:31,610 --> 01:03:34,490
But then also, and I think that's not necessarily a bad way

857
01:03:34,490 --> 01:03:35,910
to do it as you've described, how

858
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:37,490
to allocate the cost among the restrictions.

859
01:03:38,090 --> 01:03:42,590
I wonder if you get any insight into the components

860
01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:44,170
of that cost.

861
01:03:44,170 --> 01:03:52,790
There are some modules that we can add to enhance the efficiency or operability of the

862
01:03:52,790 --> 01:03:56,870
system, and those modules naturally have a cost to them.

863
01:03:58,270 --> 01:04:10,030
The system has a user group that meets monthly to determine the needs of additional modules

864
01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:17,350
in weighing the cost versus benefits of those and brings that forward to the individuals

865
01:04:17,350 --> 01:04:22,770
that have that decision-making power as a recommendation to proceed forward or not based

866
01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:25,570
upon the needs of the user agencies.

867
01:04:26,290 --> 01:04:35,910
So we do have a representative on that, would be our records manager, and so the cost

868
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:44,310
would be dependent on what modules we choose to use. Currently, there hasn't been any major

869
01:04:44,310 --> 01:04:47,470
changes that would increase the cost of that.

870
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:57,420
We are looking at the possibility of integrating

871
01:04:57,420 --> 01:05:04,280
that with mobile phone devices if the security features align with the city's IT security

872
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:15,460
needs. That would be a benefit to our detective and command staff that don't have a full-size

873
01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:23,500
laptop in their patrol vehicle and have the need for accessing that system out in the field

874
01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:25,960
at an incident command post, for example.

875
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:27,940
Mayor Miller.

876
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,080
Mr. Fantina.

877
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:35,980
I'm not sure if this is what Mr. Walters is asking, but I would I'm curious to know so we've had agreements with them dating back to

878
01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:41,600
2008 what for example was our cost last year or I?

879
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:47,860
Believe it was eighty eight thousand eighty eight thousand, and so we're anticipating eighty one ish this year

880
01:05:50,090 --> 01:05:53,310
Is what it said I think that's the number, okay?

881
01:05:53,330 --> 01:05:58,570
That was more my question is just like are we seeing like it gradually go up and up and up or it?

882
01:05:58,570 --> 01:06:01,550
It appears to be relatively stable.

883
01:06:02,090 --> 01:06:02,330
Okay.

884
01:06:02,690 --> 01:06:03,090
Thank you.

885
01:06:04,270 --> 01:06:04,910
Mayor Miller.

886
01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:05,610
Ms. Malton.

887
01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:06,270
Thank you.

888
01:06:06,450 --> 01:06:06,970
Thank you, Chief.

889
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:14,230
It's nice to see a system that's long-term and consistent and is working for the agencies,

890
01:06:14,610 --> 01:06:18,650
and we don't need some kind of new, fancy, expensive thing that everyone needs to have

891
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:20,370
to learn how to use and ends up hating it.

892
01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:25,110
Not that that ever happens.

893
01:06:27,170 --> 01:06:32,270
So, in the absence of any other comments, I move that the City Council authorize the

894
01:06:32,270 --> 01:06:38,850
Mayor to execute interlocal agreement 24234 APD001 between the city and Skagit County.

895
01:06:39,830 --> 01:06:40,350
Second.

896
01:06:41,210 --> 01:06:41,430
Okay.

897
01:06:41,570 --> 01:06:46,010
A motion by Ms. Moulton, a second by Mr. Young to approve the interlocal agreement

898
01:06:46,010 --> 01:06:46,970
as presented.

899
01:06:47,230 --> 01:06:48,230
Any additional discussion?

900
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,060
Mr. Franciotic vote, please.

901
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,220
Mr. McDougal.

902
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:55,400
Yes.

903
01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:56,660
Ms. Hibik.

904
01:06:56,660 --> 01:06:57,460
Yes.

905
01:06:58,020 --> 01:06:58,960
Mr. Fantini?

906
01:06:59,560 --> 01:06:59,860
Yes.

907
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:00,800
Mr. Young?

908
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:01,340
Yes.

909
01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:02,440
Mr. Walters?

910
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:03,340
Yes.

911
01:07:03,740 --> 01:07:04,480
Ms. Cleo McGrath?

912
01:07:04,660 --> 01:07:04,900
Yes.

913
01:07:05,380 --> 01:07:05,960
Ms. Moulton?

914
01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:06,500
Yes.

915
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,000
Motion carries.

916
01:07:08,740 --> 01:07:09,240
Okay.

917
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:09,520
Thanks.

918
01:07:09,860 --> 01:07:11,820
Next up is Item 7D.

919
01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:17,380
This is Resolution 3164, use of lodging tag funds for Schedule Valley Tool of Festival.

920
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,360
Discussion item, possible action.

921
01:07:20,500 --> 01:07:25,160
And Mr. Coleman is at a planning conference and our other staff is not available.

922
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,660
Well, Mr. Walters, the LTCH chair will get to take this one.

923
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:29,240
Mr. Walters.

924
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:30,960
Thank you, Mayor Miller.

925
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,760
We did have an out-of-cycle request

926
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:41,120
from the Tulip Festival for some additional LTCH dollars

927
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,840
for support of their operation.

928
01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:49,800
Their request was for $10,000, which

929
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,180
is consistent with some of the requests

930
01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:54,600
that they have made of the other jurisdictions that

931
01:07:54,600 --> 01:08:01,140
benefit from the Tulip Festival. Our recommendation from the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee was

932
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:09,700
to fund the Tulip Festival in this out-of-cycle request at $7,500. That motion passed unanimously.

933
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:16,520
And the director of the Tulip Festival, Nicole Ruzin, is here at the podium, and

934
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:22,140
she can provide some additional background. Council has in their packet the resolution

935
01:08:22,140 --> 01:08:26,700
authorizing the request but not the other materials that you had provided to the

936
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:33,100
lodging tax advisor committee. Well nice to see you again and you're welcome to

937
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:37,060
say a few words and make sure the microphone is on and you can pull it

938
01:08:37,060 --> 01:08:43,290
towards you and you can state your name for the record also and I don't think

939
01:08:43,290 --> 01:08:48,810
the microphone's on. Hello. There you go. Hi I'm Nicole Ruzin I'm the

940
01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:52,090
the Executive Director of the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival.

941
01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:56,010
And as Mr. Walters pointed out,

942
01:08:56,710 --> 01:08:59,970
I have already presented this to the LTCH committee.

943
01:09:00,530 --> 01:09:03,150
It is a special request for the $10,000

944
01:09:03,850 --> 01:09:05,510
specifically for a project

945
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:08,810
to basically enhance our sponsorship opportunities.

946
01:09:09,950 --> 01:09:12,550
So if I can just kind of give a little bit

947
01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:13,710
of additional background.

948
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:17,370
The Tulip Festival is something

949
01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:25,410
that I think most people know about it is we are in our 41st year as a festival

950
01:09:25,410 --> 01:09:32,330
so it's been around for a long time but I think it's important to note that I

951
01:09:32,330 --> 01:09:36,570
actually started in my role last September so I've been in this role for

952
01:09:36,570 --> 01:09:45,050
about a year and the budget that was set for this current year was already

953
01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:51,630
determined and all of the LTCH requests had been submitted prior to me

954
01:09:51,630 --> 01:09:58,170
starting in this role. As we've kind of dug into some of our financials we have

955
01:09:58,170 --> 01:10:04,910
kind of uncovered the fact that we had a budget deficit for this year. It's also

956
01:10:04,910 --> 01:10:08,790
important to note that our fiscal runs from October 1st so we're approaching

957
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:18,530
our year end. And when we dug in to some of our financials, there's kind of a myriad of reasons

958
01:10:18,530 --> 01:10:26,770
as to why we are at this deficit. I think as many business owners and nonprofits know, and

959
01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:35,930
we were able to survive COVID through the relief of Triple P and one-time grants. And I think

960
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:40,870
those funds actually masks some of the deficits that we are seeing today.

961
01:10:43,250 --> 01:10:44,310
And I think it's

962
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:48,530
also just important to note that the Tulip Festival, we were able to partner with the

963
01:10:48,530 --> 01:10:54,250
Skagit Tourism Bureau this year to get our hands on some really compelling data. So

964
01:10:54,250 --> 01:11:04,630
we know that the Tulip Festival brings in approximately 450 to 600,000 people in the

965
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:13,030
The data also showed that we have data that illustrates credit card spend, and that credit

966
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:19,050
card spend is approximately $186 per person.

967
01:11:19,690 --> 01:11:28,210
So if you take that by the 450,000 people that we know come here, that's $83 million

968
01:11:28,750 --> 01:11:31,910
of revenue that's spent throughout Skagit County.

969
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:38,750
me. I think it's also important to note that the Tulip Festival, in my time here, I think

970
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:44,050
two main things have kind of bubbled up to the surface. One, that the Tulip Festival

971
01:11:44,050 --> 01:11:52,330
just magically happens, which it doesn't. And two, that there's just confusion around

972
01:11:52,330 --> 01:11:59,730
what the Tulip Festival as a non-profit organization actually does. And so the three

973
01:11:59,730 --> 01:12:04,970
kind of buckets of what we do can be centered around promotion, advocacy,

974
01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:13,090
coordination, and community. Another big part of this past year was investing

975
01:12:13,090 --> 01:12:18,730
pretty heavily in a media campaign. It was the first time we'd ever put about

976
01:12:18,730 --> 01:12:25,250
$50,000 of paid media towards basically showcasing all there is to do

977
01:12:25,250 --> 01:12:26,930
across Skagit County.

978
01:12:27,950 --> 01:12:30,950
Of course the tulips are kind of the hero

979
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:32,590
of why people come here,

980
01:12:32,770 --> 01:12:37,050
but our job is really to talk about all of the various places

981
01:12:37,050 --> 01:12:43,550
that you can stay at, eat at, shop at, et cetera.

982
01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:47,150
So I really think of us as being that kind of promotional

983
01:12:47,150 --> 01:12:50,810
arm, that marketing arm of Skagit County.

984
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:54,990
The other big thing that we do is we really serve

985
01:12:54,990 --> 01:13:00,850
is the trusted voice and authority of the Tulip Festival. We actively engage with all

986
01:13:00,850 --> 01:13:10,330
of the media and we support visitors. I have calls pretty regularly, even this week, asking,

987
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:15,230
well, when can I come and see the Tulips? People don't understand necessarily that

988
01:13:15,230 --> 01:13:20,910
they're a seasonal blooming of flower and they're only available to see in the spring

989
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:26,950
time. So just the amount of work that we do in fielding questions and providing guidance

990
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:34,410
on where to go is pretty remarkable. And we help mitigate the confusion around the Tulip

991
01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:41,210
Festival. Again, it's not a very clear entity. When you think of a festival, you think,

992
01:13:41,290 --> 01:13:46,230
oh, I get one single ticket and it gets me admission into the thing, which is not

993
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:51,270
the case here, we have multiple different tulip gardens that participate in the tulip festival.

994
01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:57,770
We do not ourselves sell the tickets, each of those gardens do, so explaining that is

995
01:13:57,770 --> 01:13:59,510
essential part of what we do.

996
01:14:01,090 --> 01:14:08,050
And the tulip fields actually rotate every year, so explaining that to people is also a big

997
01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:09,030
part of what we do.

998
01:14:10,890 --> 01:14:14,890
And as I said, a big part of what we do is also just the coordination.

999
01:14:14,890 --> 01:14:21,710
We're working with all of the appropriate folks across public works, the Sheriff's Department,

1000
01:14:22,370 --> 01:14:28,070
Washington State Department of Transportation to ensure that we're all locked and loaded

1001
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:34,550
for traffic control. We pay for the overtime of sheriffs to support flagging and traffic control.

1002
01:14:35,450 --> 01:14:42,050
We also have multiple community events sprinkled throughout the year, so one of those events

1003
01:14:42,050 --> 01:14:44,710
is the Ambassador Program, which I'm really proud of.

1004
01:14:44,850 --> 01:14:46,590
It's the way that we engage with our youth.

1005
01:14:46,810 --> 01:14:48,030
It's for fifth and sixth graders,

1006
01:14:48,410 --> 01:14:49,690
fourth and fifth graders actually,

1007
01:14:50,810 --> 01:14:54,950
to basically audition to become a Tulip Ambassador

1008
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:57,470
and represent the Tulip Festival across different.

1009
01:14:59,450 --> 01:14:59,970
I think it's a good idea to do that.

1010
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:07,180
So just getting back to the request, it was for that $10,000.

1011
01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:12,560
It's to supplement the fact

1012
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:19,960
that some of these critical needs were not factored into our original budgeting. And it's

1013
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:29,300
to basically develop a sponsorship or revamp. So LTCH dollars make up a substantial part

1014
01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:34,560
of our budget, about half of our budget actually comes from sponsorship dollars.

1015
01:15:35,740 --> 01:15:43,160
It's critical to our financial success, but unfortunately those offerings have also remained

1016
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:52,420
pretty stagnant over the years, and so this particular project is meant to focus on revamping

1017
01:15:52,420 --> 01:15:58,560
sponsorship, diving into understanding what sponsors are looking for, ensuring that

1018
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:04,860
we're providing value. We invested heavily this year into revamping our website. It's

1019
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:13,100
now mobile friendly and really beautiful personally I think. And so there are a lot more opportunities

1020
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:25,080
for sponsors to gain visibility through our website. And this project is basically really

1021
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:30,920
diving into what those various placements can be, what the offerings can be for sponsors,

1022
01:16:31,700 --> 01:16:40,960
developing a go-to-market strategy, how we reach out to those sponsors, also incorporating

1023
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:49,220
systems. Frankly, we are lacking in that area of technology to help us track our sponsorships,

1024
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,460
communication with our sponsors,

1025
01:16:54,820 --> 01:17:02,660
incorporating QuickBooks and using that for invoicing that type of stuff.

1026
01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:09,120
So thank you for the opportunity to talk about the project.

1027
01:17:09,340 --> 01:17:10,900
I surely appreciate it.

1028
01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:14,060
And with that, I'll leave it to any questions.

1029
01:17:14,060 --> 01:17:19,500
Well, thank you for that. And I know I was fortunate to see some of the numbers, pretty

1030
01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:23,180
impressive numbers that people don't think about that the tool of festival brings in

1031
01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:27,220
that critical shoulder season, at least for us who are very focused on the summertime,

1032
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:34,380
but very critical shoulder season. So I know LTCH also got to see those numbers. So again,

1033
01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:38,660
appreciate the work you're doing there. Mr. Walters?

1034
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:45,460
So, to summarize the position of the committee, I think we would like to discourage out-of-cycle

1035
01:17:45,460 --> 01:17:50,300
requests but also allow them when it makes sense and there's a compelling need.

1036
01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:55,560
The Tulip Festival's ask this year is indicative of what their ask will be going forward.

1037
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,160
In the past, it's been about $2,400.

1038
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:11,000
their award for 2024 was $2,500. In the past years, it's been $2,400, which doesn't really account for inflation.

1039
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:19,400
But it also doesn't account for the apparent impact that the Tulip Festival has on tourism generation in

1040
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:26,340
Anacortis. And so there are numbers of like 44,000 people that apparently, according to

1041
01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:31,280
this cell phone location data, go to the festival and then their next stop is Anacortis. And

1042
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,500
that's the ferry landing, some of it's deception pass, some of it's downtown. But those are

1043
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:41,080
pretty compelling numbers. One of the things that the Login Tax Advisory Committee is

1044
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:47,980
supposed to do under our code is provide you some metrics. And so, number one,

1045
01:18:47,980 --> 01:18:53,140
and analysis of the extent to which the proposal will provide activities for tourists or increase

1046
01:18:53,140 --> 01:19:01,980
tourism in Anacortes, those are the compelling 44,000 visitors to Anacortes who seem to arrive

1047
01:19:01,980 --> 01:19:06,980
as a result of the Tulip Festival. Number two, the extent to which the recommended

1048
01:19:06,980 --> 01:19:11,860
funding will affect the long-term stability of the lodging tax fund. This amount of

1049
01:19:11,860 --> 01:19:16,820
money is not going to affect the long-term stability of the lodging tax fund now considered

1050
01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:21,960
as a complete cycle, that would have more import.

1051
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,560
So I leave that to council.

1052
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,920
But certainly, Mr. Hoagland had no qualms with an award

1053
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,920
or not based on that criteria.

1054
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:35,600
Number three, we're supposed to calculate the ratio

1055
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,200
of the recommended funding amount to the number of tourists

1056
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,080
that are estimated.

1057
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,460
And if you take this $7,500 figure,

1058
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,920
that's $0.17 of tourists.

1059
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:49,480
if you take the full 10,000 that we would have allocated for 2025, it's 22 cents.

1060
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:56,740
Again, that would make more sense if you look at it in comparison with an entire funding cycle,

1061
01:19:56,860 --> 01:20:02,220
but it seems to me and to the committee to be a relatively good deal for Anacortis.

1062
01:20:03,060 --> 01:20:06,000
Number four, we're supposed to evaluate the consistency of the application

1063
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,680
with the statutory requirements. The festival itself is clearly a compliant activity,

1064
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,240
and basically all of their activity is promotion of the festival.

1065
01:20:15,940 --> 01:20:21,400
And then number five, a history of their compliance with requirements to report on the actual tourism

1066
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:21,860
generated.

1067
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,940
I understand from staff that the Tulip Festival has always been compliant.

1068
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:33,680
This request has also generated some interesting conversations around what else we could

1069
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,100
be doing with the Tulip Festival.

1070
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,920
The Tulip Festival has indicated that they would potentially be very interested in

1071
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,660
having their kickoff dinner here at our new event facility

1072
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:44,660
that we have been talking about.

1073
01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:47,340
Their gala could be part of the opening ceremonies

1074
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:50,400
and those could be held around the county

1075
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,480
but it could help draw Anacortis into the festival.

1076
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,480
We have talked about other ways to better integrate

1077
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,880
Anacortis into the tool of festival.

1078
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,660
Try to do some more strategic thinking

1079
01:21:01,660 --> 01:21:03,080
about how we can accomplish that

1080
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,880
rather than just responding to groups

1081
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,240
that show up with their hands out for money.

1082
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:17,760
So, I think we're interested in all of that and interested in support of the festival and having a better integration of anti-courtists with it. Thank you.

1083
01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:20,320
Mayor Miller?

1084
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:20,820
Ms. Malton.

1085
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:30,100
Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Ruzin, for taking the time to come here. And I feel like I got a great primer on the Tulip Festival. I learned a lot that I had no idea about.

1086
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:37,680
So thank you for that and also for your candor and why you're back and kind of the back story of that that context

1087
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:43,180
I think is really important for us to know and I'm definitely in favor of this

1088
01:21:43,180 --> 01:21:48,340
And I appreciate the context that mr. Walters provided about LTCH in general and this

1089
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,600
Specifically and it's exciting to think about what we can do going forward and more partnership

1090
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,000
And the last thing I want to say is the how I'm impressed with the coordination

1091
01:21:58,580 --> 01:22:04,880
It's almost like the Tulip Festival acts as a de facto chamber of commerce for the entire

1092
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,780
county when you're working with all the different agencies and that level of coordination I think

1093
01:22:10,300 --> 01:22:15,900
at the granular level would be astounding really to make it all come off so well so I applaud

1094
01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:16,540
you for that.

1095
01:22:17,180 --> 01:22:18,400
Thank you very much.

1096
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:19,040
Mr. Yell.

1097
01:22:19,580 --> 01:22:19,980
Thank you.

1098
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:22,420
Well first of all, it's a pleasure to meet you.

1099
01:22:22,420 --> 01:22:29,240
of, you know, your predecessors I've known as well, and your last name is Ruzin.

1100
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:34,120
I have married into the family, so I have to preference that.

1101
01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:39,220
Yeah, I think, you know, your father-in-law pretty well, I was on a board with him, so

1102
01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:42,500
anyway, this is a wonderful thing.

1103
01:22:42,780 --> 01:22:50,560
What I'm really appreciative of as past chair of the LTAC and, you know, what I really

1104
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:57,500
appreciate is the expansion of possibilities for all of the cities. You know, even though

1105
01:22:57,500 --> 01:23:03,200
just a few miles is not far from where I come from, we used to drive about, you know, 45

1106
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:08,680
minutes to an hour to go to the movies. Here 15 minutes is sometimes too much for some.

1107
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:15,760
But I love the idea of sort of spreading out the festivities of that. I think that's

1108
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:23,620
a wonderful thing. And also, you know, I think I'm hoping that under your leadership and your

1109
01:23:23,620 --> 01:23:32,200
board and everything else that it continues to sort of expand beyond the entities where

1110
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:37,020
you have to come in. There's a lot of people that drive on the side of the road and, you

1111
01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:41,680
know, about to roll over into the cow pasture, but they try to get the tulip picture.

1112
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:47,420
It would be great if we could sort of expand the way for them to just sort of scoot through and out.

1113
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,100
I'm sure that's long term, but I'm very much in support.

1114
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,320
I think this is a wonderful thing for our county.

1115
01:23:54,740 --> 01:23:59,580
It's a wonderful thing that we do and lots of people hear about it, you know.

1116
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:06,800
So I love the idea of figuring out now how do we use that to further the advantage of the whole county.

1117
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,140
And so I'm looking forward to it.

1118
01:24:09,140 --> 01:24:10,240
So I'm very much in support.

1119
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,520
Thank you very much.

1120
01:24:11,540 --> 01:24:12,200
Mayor Miller.

1121
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,580
Mr. Fantini.

1122
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:15,160
Thank you.

1123
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,120
I'm also in support of taking the recommendation of the LTAC.

1124
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,340
And thank you for coming and talking about this today.

1125
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,780
I've done a lot of work with nonprofits before in the past.

1126
01:24:25,020 --> 01:24:27,440
And I know what a time we are in for change.

1127
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:39,440
And I just, I wanted to wish you luck and applaud you because I'm sure it is not easy to kind of blaze a new trail and kind of go in a slightly different direction.

1128
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:43,700
looking for new opportunities. So I just wanted to wish you luck and thanks for

1129
01:24:43,700 --> 01:24:46,420
coming and sharing with us. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

1130
01:24:47,620 --> 01:24:56,320
Mayor Miller. Miss Hubick. Hi, thank you. I wanted to also extend my appreciation for this as someone that's done tourism in the past.

1131
01:24:56,460 --> 01:25:01,360
I understand how difficult it is to actually get festival participants to self-report.

1132
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:06,320
And so being able to get cell phone data from people is absolutely fantastic.

1133
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:07,860
It helps you target people.

1134
01:25:08,180 --> 01:25:14,240
It helps us understand where people end up, how long they stay there, and 90% of the population

1135
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,100
has a smartphone.

1136
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:17,660
So congratulations on that.

1137
01:25:17,780 --> 01:25:21,180
Thank you for actually giving us good solid data back.

1138
01:25:21,580 --> 01:25:26,980
And so if there are no further questions or comments, I would be thrilled to move

1139
01:25:26,980 --> 01:25:31,680
to approve the use of lodging tax grants funds for the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival

1140
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:36,340
is recommended by the lodging tax advisory committee in the amount of $7,500.

1141
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:37,680
Second.

1142
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:38,540
Second.

1143
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:48,240
Okay, a motion by Ms. Hubek and a second by Mr. Young to approve a resolution 3164 use

1144
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,620
of lodging tax funds for Skagit Valley Tool of Festival.

1145
01:25:50,900 --> 01:25:51,760
Any additional discussion?

1146
01:25:53,260 --> 01:25:54,820
Mr. Franciatic, vote please.

1147
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:56,920
Ms. Hubek.

1148
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:57,980
Yes.

1149
01:25:58,700 --> 01:25:59,540
Ms. Kefantini.

1150
01:26:00,020 --> 01:26:00,400
Yes.

1151
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,520
Mr. Young.

1152
01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:02,260
Yes.

1153
01:26:02,820 --> 01:26:03,440
Mr. Walters.

1154
01:26:03,820 --> 01:26:03,920
Yes.

1155
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,420
Ms. Cleveland McGrath.

1156
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:05,820
Yes.

1157
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:06,860
Ms. Moulton.

1158
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:07,340
Yes.

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Mr. McDougall.

1160
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:09,780
Yes.

1161
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Motion carries.

1162
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Okay.

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Our last item on the agenda is Item 7E.

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This is Resolution 3166, authorizing a noise variance for the wastewater treatment

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plant outfall relocation project.

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This is a discussion item with possible action.

1167
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Mr. Rayo.

1168
01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:28,540
Thank you, Mayor.

1169
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:36,700
Before he is a resolution of the City Council to authorize After Hours Noise for the wastewater

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treatment plant outfall project, we were just here, I don't know, maybe a month ago to talk

1171
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about this for the marine side of the project. That is now done and complete. Now we're

1172
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on the shore. And so the tide is still playing a role in our situation, so we need to...

1173
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We don't think we are going to need to work at night. They almost had me pull

1174
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this thing back off the agenda because we think we can do it without working after hours

1175
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,220
but just in case. So we're not holding up the contractor. We are asking the council

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to allow us to work in the evenings. There's specific dates. That's part of the WAC that

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we have adopted locally by Municipal Code 1969-020. So we're looking for the dates

1178
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of September 9th through September 13th to allow them to work outside the noise

1179
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hours of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Mayor Miller, Mr. Frantini appreciate the fact that we're

1180
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:36,680
planning for possible having to go over but also glad to hear that we might not

1181
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:42,360
have to is there a plan to like note is there an email that goes out to folks

1182
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,060
that are involved and they'll all be notified of this change just in case

1183
01:27:46,060 --> 01:27:50,260
you would happen to utilize it we certainly do we just discovered to

1184
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some people don't use email in the neighborhood. So we are actually doing text messages now

1185
01:27:55,240 --> 01:28:00,080
and I'm actually planning to go door to door. I think you guys all know I've been doorbelling

1186
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quite a bit in my history. So I'm going to go meet all the neighbors too just to make

1187
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sure we've got good contact information. We did have one of the residents that's literally

1188
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,860
next door that doesn't do email. And so she called us and was like, why aren't you

1189
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talking to us? So yes, we will be notifying anybody if we are going to plan to work

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After hours that day immediately great. Thank you for that extra effort. I know it is super appreciated. Any

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other questions?

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Notions,

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Mr. Walters approval of resolution 3166 as presented

1194
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:50,340
Motion by Mr. Walters second by Miss you big to approve resolution 3166 any additional discussion

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01:28:51,180 --> 01:28:52,760
Mr.. Francia I go please

1196
01:28:55,480 --> 01:28:56,280
Mr.. Vantini

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01:28:57,820 --> 01:28:59,920
Yes, mr. Young. Yes

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Mr. Walters. Yes. Ms. Cleveland McGrath. Yes. Ms. Moulton. Yes. Mr. McDougal. Yes. Ms. Hubek. Yes. Motion carries.

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Okay. Thank you. No further business for the council. I'll adjourn tonight's meeting. Have a good night.

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