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his couch. He's going, "Gotcha."

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» Oh, you're

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Is she here to read a proclamation?

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>> She shows up.

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» Call her if she

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is there. I mean, it's highly possible.

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>> No, I guess that's good. So, you just

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» We've already passed the resolution. We

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» Okay. Okay.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the

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September

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2026 Anderson County Board of

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Commissioners meeting. Um like to say

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welcome to all the newer commissioners

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and also welcome to all the reelected

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commissioners. Uh we've got a lot to do

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this year and three years after that. So

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happy to serve with you all.

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I'm going to call the public hearing to

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order where we are will discuss

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resolution number 26091276

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to amend zoning resolution of Anderson

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County, Tennessee by reszoning partial

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00 Anderson County Tax Map 032

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from I2 heavy industrial district to R1

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suburban residential district. Do we

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have anyone here to speak on that?

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Do you want to speak on it?

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>> I don't care.

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>> Uh we took this up in planning

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commission. And this is just reszoning a

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uh industrial to residential. Um on it's

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the property on the other side of

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mountain where the David Jones

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Industrial Park is. It's on the other

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side of North Freeway. Most of the stuff

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behind it's all residential. So um

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they're asking it be moved to

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residential. We've had a lot of new

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houses go in there. There was an old

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farm that has big lots and so it's just

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one house being built on that um

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currently. So that's and you haven't had

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any issue. We had nobody here at

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planning commission that was against it.

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So and we approved it unanimously.

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I guess I would just ask uh two

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commissioners from that district. Do you

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have any issues with this?

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» Okay. No, I don't have any issues with

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it at all. I've not received any comment

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from the community uh for or against

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this reszoning.

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>> Same with me. No comments from the

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community and I don't have any issues.

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Okay, with that then I will close the

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public hearing. Uh we'll move on to a

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proclamation

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recognizing the contribution of

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Community Mediation Services, Inc. to

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the residents of Anderson County. This

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was requested by Greta Owen.

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before.

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>> That's okay.

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It's a proclamation recognizing the

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contribution of Community Mediation

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Services, Inc. to the residents of

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Anderson County. Whereas Community

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Mediation Services, Inc. is a nonprofit

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organization serving Anderson County and

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is celebrating their 40th anniversary

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this year. Whereas Community Mediation

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Services, Inc. has served more than

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17,000 people during their 40 years of

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operation. And whereas Community

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Mediation Services, Inc. provides three

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different mediation programs for

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residents of Anderson County. Victim

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offender reconciliation program, teen

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and parent mediation program, and

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visitation mediation program. All of

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which are conducted by highly trained

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volunteers and are provided at no or

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minimal cost.

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And whereas the services conducted by

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Community Mediation Services, Inc.

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promote peaceful dispute resolution,

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creative conflict engagement by actively

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facilitating productive and constructive

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and effective dialogue through the

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intervention of trained neutral third

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party.

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And whereas through modeling the

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mediation process teaches participate

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participants skills in conflict conflict

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articulation, negotiation and settlement

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and authentic participation using words

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rather than force or violence. And

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whereas promoting the broader use of

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mediation will help create more

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cooperative and connected community and

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will assist in resolving conflict that

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diminishes the quality of life of its

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citizens. And now therefore, the

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Anderson County Board Commissioner does

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here commissioners does hereby pro

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proclaim October 2026 as Community

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Mediation Month in Anderson County to

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raise awareness of the special and vital

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services provided by Community Mediation

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Services, Inc. Is that all I read?

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And um so Mayor Frank and and members of

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the county commission, I my name is Amy

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Hoer. I am the program coordinator for

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community mediation services and uh we

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just want to really thank you for this

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meaningful recognition of uh the 40-year

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anniversary of CMS. We were the first

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mediation center in the state in 1986.

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So for 40 years uh so 40 years of

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service is an extraordinary

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uh milestone and we're deeply grateful

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to have the opportunity to celebrate

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this with the community. This

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recognition belongs not just to the

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organization but to the many volunteers,

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staff members, board members, and

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community partners who have contributed

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to this work over the past four decades.

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At its heart, mediation is about giving

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people an opportunity to be heard, to

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understand one another, and to find

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constructive ways to move forward. For

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40 years, Community Mediation Services

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has been privileged to provide no cost

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mediations to help individuals, teens,

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and families resolve conflict and

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strengthen relationships.

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With more than 6,000 referrals to our

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program, we have worked with separating

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parents to create parenting plans.

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program, we have established almost

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$100,000 in restitution for victims in

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the victim offender reconciliation

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program.

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And we also have the teen and parent

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program who help troubled teens

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communicate with their parents.

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county commission for recognizing the

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value of this work and for honoring the

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role that community- based mediations

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play in building a stronger and more

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effective community, a connected

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community. On behalf of everyone at

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Community Mediation Services, thank you

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for this proclamation and for your

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support. We're proud of our 40 years uh

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our 40-year history and we look forward

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to continuing to serve the community for

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many more years to come. Thank you.

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Thank you so much for that and

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congratulations on 40 years. That's that

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Next up, we have a resolution, a very

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special um presentation, a resolution

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honoring Annette Puit for her service to

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Anderson County. Uh requested by Jeff

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Cole and Commissioner Michael Foster

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will be reading that. And

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>> we all know Annette's loving standing up

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here in front of all of us while I read

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this. So, I'm gonna take my time, go

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real slow for you, and let you enjoy

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this spotlight. Uh resolution number

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2691277

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a resolution aring honoring Annette Puit

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for her service to Anderson County.

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Whereas Annette Puit has faithfully

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served Anderson County for over 30 years

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as an employee of the Anderson County

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Clerk's Office and has served as chief deputy, devoting her time and

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expertise to supporting the Anderson

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County Commission. And where whereas

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throughout her tenure with Anderson

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County, Miss Puit has provided dedicated

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and professional service and support of

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Anderson County Commission, its members,

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and the citizens of Anderson County. And

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whereas Miss Puit has been a valued

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resource to county commission, assisting

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that many administrative

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responsibilities of the commission and

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helping to ensure that the business of

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the county government is conducted

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efficiently and effectively. And whereas

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throughout her knowledge, experience,

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dependability, and commitment to public

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service, Miss Pru has made a significant

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contribution to the efficient operations

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of the Anderson County Commission.

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Anderson County government as a whole,

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and to the citizens of Anderson County.

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And whereas Miss Puit's years of service

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has earned her the respect and

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appreciation of the members of the

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Anderson County Commission, her

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co-workers, and the citizens she has

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served. And whereas after more than 30

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years of dedicated service, Miss Puit is

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retiring. And Anderson County Commission

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desires to recognize and express a

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sincere appreciation for her

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contributions, commitment to Anderson

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County. Now therefore, now therefore, be

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it resolved by the Anderson County Board

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of Commissioners meeting regular session

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on this the 21st day of September, 2026

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that Annette Puit is hereby honored and

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commended for her many years of faithful

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and dedicated service to Anderson County

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and Anderson County Commission and

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extends it sincere appreciation to Miss

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Puit for her professionalism,

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dedication, and service to the citizens

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of Anderson County and wish her a long,

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happy, and fulfillment retirement. Be it

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further resolved that a copy of this

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resolution be entered into the official

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minutes of the Anderson County

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Commission and the copy be presented to

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Net Puit as a token of county's

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gratitude and appreciation for our many

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years and dedicated service. Duly passed

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the chair Robert Mckame Terry Frank

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Mayor and Jeff Cole clerk.

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Okay, I'm not one to make a speech, but

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I do want to say that I have enjoyed

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working with all of you and I'm sorry

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that I'm not going to be able to work

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with the new people, but I just wish you

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all the luck and just keep county

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Anderson County moving forward.

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That's all.

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>> And thank you. [applause]

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come that way.

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» Right here

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get in there.

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» Bring it on. Here we go. Here we go.

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» And we're looking at me.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Congratulations. Well deserved.

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» Annette, thank you so much. You

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» She gone.

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>> Yeah, I think she's on her way out, but

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Thank you, Annette.

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We have one more resolution. Uh we have

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a resolution resolution honoring country

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music icon

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the philanthropist

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and uh an East Tennessee native Miss

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Dolly Parton requested by Commissioner

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Isville.

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>> Madam Chair, Commissioner, thank you for

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your time. Dollar Legacy serves as an

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inspiration to all the extremely rural

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communities. No matter how oppressed you

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think you are through positive attitude

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and determination,

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you can do anything with your life that

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you choose, that you set your mind to.

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And thank you, mayor, for putting this

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together.

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Anderson County, Tennessee Board of

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Commissioners resolution number

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26091278.

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A resolution honoring country music icon

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philanthropist and East Tennessee native

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Dolly Parton. Whereas Dolly Parton was

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born an hour and a half from Clinton,

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Tennessee in Seir County's Locust Ridge

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on January 19th, 1946.

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She passed away in Nashville, Tennessee

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on August 25, 2026. And whereas Dolly

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Parton attained wide ranging career

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success, becoming known as the queen of

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country music and winning 11 Grammys

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with 25 number one hits and numerous

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popular songs and appearing more than a

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dozen films. And whereas in 1986, she

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opened a Dollarwood theme park, which is

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Tennessee's most visited tourist

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attraction with 23,000 jobs,

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drawing 4 million visitors each year and

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added nearly two billion a year to the

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local economy. And whereas her business

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enterprises included the My Life of Many

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Colors Museum, the Dolly Parton Songt

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Hotel, a line of food products, dinner

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theaters, truck stop, and other

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ventures. And whereas 1995 she launched

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Dolly Parton's Imagination Library in

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Seir County, Tennessee, which has

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distributed more than 330 million free

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books to children from birth to age 5

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across the United States, including

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nearly 750,000 in Anderson County,

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Tennessee.

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Since its inception, the book gifting

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program has expanded internationally to

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Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia,

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and the Republic of Ireland. Whereas as

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a giver at heart, Dolly Parton raised $9

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million to help severe county families

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that were impacted by the 2016

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wildfires. And in 204 2024, she

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personally gave 1 million to help

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Tennessee flood victims affected by

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hurricane Helen. She created the buddy

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program within the Dollarwood

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Foundation, pledging $500 to se every

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seventh and eighth grader, Severe County

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who graduated high school. And whereas

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having first appeared on stage at the

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Grand Old Opry in July 1959, Dolly

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Parton was inducted as a Grand Opry

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member on January 4th, 1969, she went on

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to become a member of both the country

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music and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and

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Billboard named her as the greatest

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country artist of all time in 2024. Now

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therefore, it be resolved meeting in

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regular session on Monday, September

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21st, 2026, that we, the Anderson County

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Board of Commissioners and County Mayor

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Terry Frank, do do hereby professibly

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recognize and honor Dolly Parton, not

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only for her legacy of music and songs,

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but also for her passion for supporting

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children's literacy, her long-standing

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philanthropy commitments and the

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positive and lasting impacts her life

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has had on the people of Anderson

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County, East Tennessee, and around the

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world. resolved and approved this as

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21st day of September 2026. Robert Ky

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commission chairman Terry Frankers

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County Mayor and Jeff Coers County

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Clerk. Thank you. [applause]

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Thank you, Commissioner Isel. I know

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everybody's got a Dolly story. So, u my

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daughter actually worked at Dollywood

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one one season as a child performer. So

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whenever Miss Dolly was in the park,

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there was just electricity everywhere.

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and people were were looking

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to see her. And so again, that's my

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Dolly story. [laughter]

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I got to meet her a couple times uh

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through through Lily's performing.

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With that, I think we will stand in

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adjournment until 6:30.

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» Was a child

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Yes, sir.

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We should not have

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» two.

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Okay.

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Hello darling. Yes. Yes. Yes. That would

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be

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[laughter]

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» Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Thank you so

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much.

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We'll

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hang around.

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All right.

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What's going on here?

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Yes, sir.

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That wasn't good.

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I'll show you

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totally

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Amy said that

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he wants to make sure it's not a junior.

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There's a com.

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Okay.

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should be

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» correct.

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>> Okay.

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supposed to be

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your

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I don't think there's anything

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allows

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former member

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» I don't remember who all the

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commissioners were

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September 21st 26

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meeting of the Anderson County Board of

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Commissioners to order.

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We've got 14 members present.

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Uh first we'll take up the have prayer

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by Commissioner Val and then the pledge

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of allegiance by Commissioner Juan Dill.

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[clears throat]

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» Heavenly Father, we come to you tonight

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to honor you and praise you and thank

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you Lord for salvation. To thank you

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Lord for all the blessings that you give

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us so freely each and every day. We ask

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Lord that you forgive us of our sins

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times that we fall so short of your

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glory that we fail you each and every

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day. We ask Lord that you be with us

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tonight. We ask Father that you guide us

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in the decisions that you would have us

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to make to do what's right in your

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sight. All this we ask in Jesus holy

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name. Amen.

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>> Amen.

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Pledge

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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[clears throat]

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Next item is appearance of citizens for

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anything any item that is on or off the

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agenda. And I'd like to call on Miss

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Louise Macau

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first want to speak to the commission.

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I only have three minutes. Um I have

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written out

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my speech for you. Um and um

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the last two prayer requests are um

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really important. But um other than that

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um I I am Louis and I live at 34.

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I am the chair of the industa

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coordinator who is the best coordinator

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we ever had.

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Don't let him go. Um, I have been on it

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for almost

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three decades because Commissioner

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Jerry

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um asked me to be on it and

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made the comm the chair and um then four

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or five years later

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has made the B of the chair.

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Um

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mostly we surveyed

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and dealt with low and medium plus

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and I'm so nervous

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why this is important.

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One in three Tennesseeians have a

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disability

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and I'm one of them. Um,

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one day, um, a decade ago, the um,

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someone from the US highway

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administration

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knocked

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door

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[laughter] and she put me up, do I have

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do we have a plan? Um they

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lifted our courthouse parking lot. Um if

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we had co and toed drops over them and

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painted sidewalks and pestic

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entrance

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and they said if you don't face this

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at a certain time we may eventually like

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pull your highway buttons and that is

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really

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not

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really.

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Um, we have someone to do a survey for

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our county owned business for the

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library that the county funds and 28

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pulling locations.

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We are not the only county

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or city where this had been done. Um

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[clears throat] the USA

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highway administration is doing it in

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all counties and middle size cities in

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this nation.

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[sighs]

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We

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um

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we have to send um what we done and it's

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close every 3 years to the state

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department of transportation

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when May is a grant for the state of

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Tennessee for health health for the

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health department.

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So, um you can read or

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thank him. Thank you.

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Louise. Anybody else would

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like to address the commission?

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Yes, sir.

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State your name and address, please.

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My name is Christian Breeden. I reside

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at 5020 Laurel Woods Drive in Knoxville,

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Tennessee. I am the co-founder and

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president of a nonprofit voter education

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called Volunteer Patriots. We have for

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sort of been at the forefront of the uh

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flock and ALPR issue in Knox County. and

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we also spoke at the uh town hall a

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couple of weeks ago. I have a few other

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additional points that I didn't get to at the town hall that I'd like to

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get to today. In particular, a couple of

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things that the Flock representative

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stated about their cameras capabilities.

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The Flock representative stated that the

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cameras do not have facial recognition

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technology and they are not used to

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detect analyze humans. This is false.

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They do. US patent 10795933b1

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specifically states that these cameras

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are used and are supposed to detect

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vehicles and humans to detect and

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analyze them. Meaning that the AI that

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is powering these cameras are detecting

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you. They are cataloging you and they

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are taking account of everything you are

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doing and everything you are wearing. On

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top of that, they also stated that the

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cameras

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uh if you'll excuse

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this uh little confused, my sugar's a

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little high, so bear with me. Um the

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cameras do not have the capability of

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tracking specific bumper stickers that

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they simply track that a car has bumper

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stickers. Now, take this with a grain of

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salt, but there was a group recently who

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illegally obtained data from a camera

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that they took down from their local

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jurisdiction and discovered that not

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only can they detect the bumper

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stickers, they can detect what type of

562
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,359
bumper sticker? The one example they

563
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:40,240
gave was the American flag. If these

564
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,400
cameras can detect the American flag as

565
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,720
part of a bumper sticker, they are able

566
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,560
to detect other factors on bumper

567
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,160
stickers. Meaning that if you have a

568
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,160
particular candidate's information on a

569
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,240
sticker, if you have a particular party,

570
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,280
a or a particular political stance, it

571
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
can track that. More to the point, I

572
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,560
would like to read very quickly from our

573
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,079
state constitution, the Tennessee State

574
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:06,160
Constitution, Article 1, Section 7. It

575
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,760
is like the Fourth Amendment, but with a

576
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,920
very clear distinction. that the people

577
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,520
shall be secure in their persons,

578
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,280
houses, papers, and possessions from

579
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,760
unreasonable searches and seizures. And

580
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,880
that general warrants whereby an officer

581
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,400
may be commanded to search suspected

582
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,400
license or suspected places without

583
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440
evidence of the fact uh committed or to

584
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,280
seize any person or persons not named

585
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,880
whose off who offenses are not

586
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,400
particularly described and supported by

587
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,400
evidence. We could go into the history

588
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,920
of the Fourth Amendment and the court

589
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,079
case that spawned the Fourth Amendment,

590
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,000
but in my opinion, and the law director

591
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,079
may be able to speak to this, this means

592
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,640
that if there is not a specific warrant

593
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,960
being used with these cameras, these

594
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,640
cameras are in fact being operated

595
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,720
illegally by essentially being general

596
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,960
warrants on the public for surveillance.

597
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Thank you for your time. May God bless

598
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,310
each of you.

599
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:05,910
» Anybody else? Yes, sir.

600
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Hello, I'm James [clears throat] Arthur.

601
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,280
I live on 100 Delmare in Oakidge. I also

602
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,839
wanted to speak about the flock cameras.

603
00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:16,880
I watched the video of the uh operating

604
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,760
commit committee's meeting at Clinton

605
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,599
High School and it was I watched it

606
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,880
several times and

607
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,119
uh I heard the sheriff say that we have

608
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,839
no expectation of privacy on a public

609
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,480
road

610
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,240
and in a in an sense way. Of course we

611
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,400
expect people can see us and we might go

612
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,560
by a sheriff and that's fine. We want

613
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,160
the sheriffs to be out on the road. What

614
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,640
we never expected though would be that

615
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,640
they had some electronic apparatus and

616
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,680
were cataloging every single transaction

617
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,240
everywhere we went several times a day.

618
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:55,920
We never had an expectation of that.

619
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,720
We expected that we would say hi to the

620
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,319
sheriff and then if we were doing

621
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,000
something wrong, he might write us down

622
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,319
or chase us, right?

623
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:06,880
And once this information is collected,

624
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680
uh it never goes away. bad people can do

625
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,400
bad things with it in the future or it

626
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,280
can be hacked. It can wind up in China.

627
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,960
So [clears throat] I really feel like

628
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520
the they are a violation of the fourth

629
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,960
amendment because we are collecting data

630
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,400
on people to search uh that have done

631
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,079
nothing wrong and aren't suspected of

632
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:31,599
any crime without a warrant.

633
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,560
And I just feel that that's

634
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,280
people don't like being watched and they

635
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,560
don't like being spied upon.

636
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,440
Try looking at your dog. Just stare at your dog. Your dog won't

637
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,160
like it. Well, we don't like it either.

638
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,960
So uh I wanted to with some apologies

639
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,319
say uh two roads diverged in a yellow

640
00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:59,520
wood and sorry I could not travel both

641
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,440
and be one traveler long I stood and

642
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,680
looked down one to where it bent in the

643
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,079
undergrowth

644
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:09,760
and then I saw there were these flock

645
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,604
cameras and I took the other road.

646
00:42:11,604 --> 00:42:12,319
[laughter]

647
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:15,750
Thank you.

648
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,200
Anybody else?

649
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:30,069
Yes, sir.

650
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:31,839
My name is Nathan Mullins. I'm from

651
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:33,839
Oakidge.

652
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:37,760
This year, there will be 5,000 requests

653
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,359
expected nationally for ICE searches

654
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:45,040
using APLR devices. according to the

655
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,480
immigration policy tracking project.

656
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,359
That itself adds to the debate over the

657
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:53,599
purpose of this mandated mass

658
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,240
surveillance being pushed by government

659
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,000
DHS.

660
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,040
For example, they sent me a letter when

661
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,200
I was cited for rolling through a stop

662
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,839
sign stating that they could double the

663
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:09,119
points put on my license if I was

664
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:12,079
suspected of doing it again.

665
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,160
There's the problem.

666
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,680
DHS incentivizes making it legal to

667
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,319
gather suspected evidence with new tech,

668
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,640
all the while profiteering by using

669
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,119
taxpayer funds.

670
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,480
Are you innocent until proven guilty?

671
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,560
Your fourth amendment protections from

672
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,359
profiling are Pay

673
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:37,599
with the new directives from DHS and

674
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,200
Palanteer.

675
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,240
Ultimately, flock systems are selling

676
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,319
the whereabouts of any particular

677
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:47,839
individual to the government, good, bad,

678
00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:49,839
or indifferent.

679
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:53,119
The database, like cell phone data, is

680
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:55,839
what's for sale. The Supreme Court

681
00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:58,640
recently protected phone tracking, but

682
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,040
they are less likely to consider what

683
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,560
APLR systems are collecting because the

684
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,880
feds are going to prejudice the argument

685
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,280
based on increased pressure from the

686
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920
next generation of the Patriot Act,

687
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,839
which is Palunteers tracking

688
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:16,240
technologies from which there are

689
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,400
inadequate constitutional protections.

690
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Finally, there is plenty of evidence

691
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,240
that all this warrantless access is

692
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,640
stemming from excessive government

693
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,160
overreach.

694
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,240
This year's 200,000 goal of Palunteer's

695
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,480
new camera platform is not an accident.

696
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440
I'm proud that we're heard at recent

697
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,400
public forums by a real mayor that

698
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,839
represents our conservative voter base.

699
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:50,079
Can our established political classes

700
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,680
move forward and share the unonyimity

701
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160
the public has shown?

702
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,960
Also taking a stand on what the majority

703
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,480
of citizens of this county want. Thank

704
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,750
you.

705
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:12,390
» Thank you. Anybody else? Yes, sir.

706
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,280
» State your name and address, please.

707
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,319
Chairman McKenna, I'm uh Tommy Mariner.

708
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:20,480
I live at 11 Hawthorne Place in Norris,

709
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,040
Tennessee. Uh Mayor Frank,

710
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,400
commissioners, uh I was at a library

711
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,079
board meeting on uh last month and one

712
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,240
of the gentlemen stood up and talked

713
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:33,920
about the various things that have been

714
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,599
done in the library board for the past

715
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,480
year under the current leadership.

716
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,680
and he asked uh as a library employee uh

717
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,160
what could be done, what were the

718
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,599
accountability for the hostility that

719
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,240
was being uh shown toward the library

720
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:55,119
directors and the violations of state

721
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,240
law that were taking place. And uh

722
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,480
nobody answered it, but I do have an

723
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,560
answer. this body can hold accountable

724
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,040
the leadership of the Anderson County

725
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Library Board and you do it by replacing

726
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,200
the person that represents the board on

727
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,319
the library. Uh I listened to him say at

728
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,880
our your last meeting that when he was

729
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,800
put on the board, he told people he was

730
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,440
going to change things and he has. He's

731
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,880
taken our board from one of the most

732
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,319
efficient and respected in the state to

733
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:30,880
the least efficient. uh we don't answer

734
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,720
our mail on time and uh we're being

735
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,319
sued.

736
00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:40,000
Uh he also wants to substitute his

737
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
personal prejudices

738
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,280
uh toward that of our library directors

739
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,599
who are trained in the art of trying to

740
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,880
open up libraries and maintain a curated

741
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,480
uh collection uh that has some reading

742
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,599
materials for everybody.

743
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,920
uh y'all are the people that put him on

744
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,839
there. There's a new group of uh people

745
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:05,760
that are here and I'd like you to

746
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,760
consider changing the person that's on

747
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,160
the library uh board from this

748
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,440
commission to somebody that does care

749
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,119
about the library and understands that

750
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:20,720
the library is for everybody's opinions,

751
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,800
everybody's reading and there is a right

752
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,680
for people to read uh not just those

753
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,720
people who have a certain viewpoint.

754
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,599
Uh, I'm going to go to uh Bible study.

755
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,520
Uh, I won't be around. You guys are not

756
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,200
going to take any action tonight, but if

757
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960
anybody has any questions for me, I'll

758
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,599
be glad to answer them now or anytime.

759
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:42,160
I've been on the library board uh this

760
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,400
is my last year, and I'd like to see us

761
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,200
go back to the old standard of

762
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,359
>> uh following uh state law and the uh

763
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:53,839
right to read. Thank you.

764
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:56,160
>> Thank you. [applause]

765
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,589
Anybody

766
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,510
else?

767
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,359
If not, we'll close this portion and

768
00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:08,319
move on. Uh, next is the approval and

769
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:11,200
correction of the agendas. First off is

770
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,760
the consent agenda.

771
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,440
>> Yeah, I got I'll do a motion to approve,

772
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,440
but there is a correction on the

773
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,280
notaries. There was a double list of

774
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,559
name. It was just typo. So,

775
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:24,880
you remember the names?

776
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,520
>> Sorry. But they've got it correct.

777
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,040
They've got it corrected. But there is

778
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,280
twi two names on there listed twice. We

779
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,359
only need them listed once. If you'll

780
00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:35,040
give me a second, I pull the name up.

781
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,670
>> On number 11, I have a correction.

782
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:48,710
I'm the cap that was

783
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,880
the name Stan Russell hatmaker. It's

784
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,720
listed twice. So just correct that on

785
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:56,800
the consent agenda on the notaries.

786
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,839
She's talking about on the regular

787
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:01,349
agenda, right?

788
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:05,280
» On the consent agenda. Which one?

789
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,960
>> Oh, on the minutes.

790
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,559
>> Okay.

791
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:10,240
>> So, your motion is to approve with that

792
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:11,040
one change.

793
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,559
>> And

794
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,079
she got changed in the minutes. Is that

795
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:15,680
correct?

796
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,240
>> Did what?

797
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,839
>> Yes.

798
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:19,119
>> Okay.

799
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,800
Second by Commissioner Cap.

800
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Any discussion?

801
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,040
If not, I'll fail the motion. Leave it.

802
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,640
But no saying. Oh, go ahead.

803
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,800
>> Um, is this just to approve the consent

804
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,680
or the regular

805
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:37,750
>> consent? Consent. Thank you.

806
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,359
» Okay. I have a motion, second. Any

807
00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:41,119
discussion? If not, all in favor of the

808
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,200
motion, leave a number saying I.

809
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,480
>> Any opposed? Motion carried. Next is on

810
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,119
the regular agenda

811
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,920
and I've got three additions or two

812
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,440
additions. U

813
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,559
one is a letter from the

814
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,680
county law director uh reference to

815
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,680
flock camera.

816
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,880
Uh that I think should go maybe to

817
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,800
operations and put it under operations

818
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,960
>> budget

819
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,319
for discussion.

820
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:16,800
>> Yeah. monetary thing. I guess you could

821
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,680
put it either.

822
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,200
>> I think it needs to be brought up under

823
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,359
operations and it could be referred to

824
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:23,200
wherever if there's any action to be

825
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,680
taken by but we'll put it under

826
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680
operations to begin with.

827
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,400
>> But u law director's report.

828
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,160
>> Yeah, we could do that.

829
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,880
>> Let everybody get that.

830
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,319
>> I'll make a motion to approve the

831
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:37,040
agenda.

832
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,400
>> Uh one more. The mayor's asked that we

833
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,520
put the uh flood control map. It's some

834
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,480
wording. This is a This is one that we

835
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,240
approved several months back, the flood map, but

836
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,960
they wanted in

837
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
some language change here on the

838
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
numbers. Instead of just an exhibit, we

839
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,680
have to list all those. So,

840
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,000
you have a problem with that motion?

841
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,470
>> Okay.

842
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,640
Is this the same motion?

843
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,480
>> This is a new one.

844
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,160
>> Okay. Uh, Commissioner Wales. Um,

845
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,160
>> yes. I'd like to ask that we consider

846
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,400
adding to the agenda the consideration

847
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,000
of adding Phil Joerger to the ATL large

848
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,280
seat on the finance committee. I think

849
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,960
you all got the email from Amy last

850
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,040
week. Um, former Commissioner Joerger

851
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,040
actually sent the email request over a

852
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,280
month ago um to the office. It got lost

853
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680
in translation. So, he reiterated this

854
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,920
week to me. Um, so if we could I'd like

855
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,280
to make a motion that we consider adding

856
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,440
that to the regular agenda as well.

857
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:41,920
>> Okay.

858
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,720
>> Go to that.

859
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,480
>> And it was actually from the first we

860
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,960
ref we referred that to this meeting

861
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,240
today. It just didn't get put on the

862
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:52,240
agenda.

863
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,720
>> Commissioner Palmer.

864
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,559
>> Sorry. I made a motion that we add that.

865
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,240
Does that need to be taken up at this

866
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:58,960
point or

867
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,200
>> we just add it to the agenda?

868
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960
>> I mean, he's got a motion and a second

869
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,040
to approve the agenda. So, we'd have to

870
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,800
just add these. Commissioner Palmer.

871
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,119
>> Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I

872
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:14,559
think under um the operations I'll ask

873
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:16,880
the operations chair. I think there's a

874
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,720
couple of motions that were not picked

875
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,680
up on the agenda. Um motion to approve

876
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,240
the uh TNCP

877
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,400
>> that that's on there. I wrote in there.

878
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,440
>> Okay. And then the

879
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,960
>> passport for the full commission.

880
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,119
>> Okay. And then the motion to approve the

881
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:33,280
strategic planning workshop. I put it on

882
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,119
there as well. Motion passed forward

883
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:35,839
commission.

884
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:38,000
>> So you you've added it. It's not on our

885
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,720
agenda.

886
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,720
>> Well, it just says well how it was

887
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:41,680
stated.

888
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,119
>> I guess this is where we've changed

889
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:46,079
secretaries or so. But usually when it's

890
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:48,319
approved and it's an action item, it

891
00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:49,920
will say passed forward to full

892
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,119
commission for approval.

893
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:51,599
>> Okay.

894
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:53,920
>> So she just put that it was passed

895
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,480
unanimously. So I put on there that

896
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,680
motion [snorts] passed forward to full

897
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,280
commission for Okay. So, I was going to

898
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,079
read that that way in the report.

899
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,240
>> It's just a matter, you know, some new

900
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:04,640
people.

901
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,720
>> I just wanted to make sure that the

902
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:09,520
strategic planning workshop was um

903
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,000
>> Yes.

904
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,839
>> included [snorts] was pushed to this

905
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:13,920
body. Thank you.

906
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,200
>> Good. And the other one is the Clarkson

907
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,200
school. Amy sent that out, but it's not

908
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,319
on the agenda. So, that needs to be

909
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:23,040
taken up under appointments to

910
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,800
>> the task force. Commission Mr. Wando.

911
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,920
>> Uh,

912
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,000
>> do we need to add Mayor had a request

913
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,000
for us to add that letter or is that

914
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,599
already covered under the U motion to

915
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,920
have the law director look at it or

916
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,720
>> mayor

917
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:39,520
>> lost Sham?

918
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:39,839
>> Yeah.

919
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:40,559
>> Yes. Okay.

920
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:42,240
>> That's the same thing, right?

921
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:42,559
>> Okay.

922
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:44,960
>> That's what I was thinking. And then I I

923
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,119
thought and I'm open to the idea, but I

924
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,680
thought we have a nominating committee

925
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,839
was moved to the operations committee.

926
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:53,839
And I don't understand why we would be

927
00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:56,960
taking up um people from the floor

928
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:57,920
without it going to [snorts] the

929
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,599
operations committee. So the finance

930
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,280
committee, in my opinion, that motion

931
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,520
should go to the operations committee to

932
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,559
be taken up because that has been moved

933
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,359
to the uh nominating committee since we

934
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:11,760
did away with it several years ago. And

935
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,359
uh so if I'm gonna have to vote on it

936
00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:14,640
tonight, I'm gonna vote against it

937
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,359
because [clears throat]

938
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:16,960
I don't think we're giving the

939
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,000
opportunity to anybody uh to participate

940
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,480
in that. And I think we need to give

941
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,200
fair uh opportunity to all to to fill

942
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,790
that position.

943
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,520
» Uh we dissolve the nomination committee.

944
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,200
We didn't put in operation. It just come

945
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,599
all nominations come to full commission.

946
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,480
So we can defer it, but all nominations

947
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,839
are handled by a full commission. That's

948
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:45,520
we was and it got referred to us on the

949
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,040
September 1st meeting. We didn't take up

950
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,319
the finance committee because we did

951
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:50,079
have a citizen that applied. So we

952
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,160
referred it to this meeting to take up

953
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,200
the finance committee.

954
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,119
>> So all nominations come to full

955
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,040
commission to be acted upon.

956
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,760
>> Yep.

957
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,829
>> Wow. I didn't know that.

958
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:03,359
» Mr. Caps.

959
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:05,440
>> Okay. I'm on the right agenda. Um, on

960
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,920
the regular agenda on page 11, I just

961
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,720
wanted to correct that I'm I'm the capaw

962
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,720
that withdrew the request from rules

963
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:18,069
committee

964
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:41,030
as sapshaw. Just a correction.

965
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:56,630
That's it.

966
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,079
make that part of your motion.

967
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,839
>> Yeah, I'm good with that. I'm good with

968
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:05,030
all the changes that have been added.

969
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:10,480
» Okay. Is there any further discussion?

970
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
If not, all in favor of approval of this

971
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,079
agenda as amended by saying I.

972
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:16,559
>> I.

973
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:20,319
>> Any opposed? Motion carried. Next, we'll

974
00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:22,799
have the public hearing report of Vice

975
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:25,520
Chairman Mander.

976
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,079
>> Thank you, Chairman. Earlier this

977
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,839
evening, we did have a uh public hearing

978
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:36,640
to discuss the reszoning

979
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,440
uh or the sorry, a resolution to amend

980
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,440
the zoning regulations of Anderson

981
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,160
County, Tennessee by reszoning partial

982
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:50,000
081.00 00 Anderson County Tax Map 032

983
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,559
from I2 Heavy Industrial District to R1

984
00:56:54,559 --> 00:57:00,789
Suburban Residential District.

985
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:06,390
We'll need a motion to approve. Okay,

986
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,799
second.

987
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:10,640
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second to

988
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,040
approve reszoning. Any discussion?

989
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,119
If not, I'll favor the motion by saying

990
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:18,240
I. I.

991
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,280
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

992
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,880
>> Next [clears throat] item is a letter of

993
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,720
notice. Uh this was sent out by

994
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,160
our county clerk about the vacancy that

995
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,720
we as a county commission need to accept

996
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,960
vacancy

997
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,119
that exists on this county commission.

998
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:42,720
So you need a motion to accept.

999
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,069
>> Yes.

1000
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,599
» Have a motion to accept the resignation

1001
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:53,119
or the vacancy and seconded by

1002
00:57:53,119 --> 00:58:02,390
Commissioner Pack. Any discussion?

1003
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,839
Commissioner Palmer.

1004
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:05,839
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a

1005
00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:09,119
couple questions. Um, so do we have a

1006
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:12,319
vacancy at this moment or will we only

1007
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:16,400
have a vacancy when we approve this?

1008
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,040
>> We had a vacancy in my opinion. I'll let

1009
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,720
the law director give his opinion.

1010
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,079
You know, opinions are kind of like

1011
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:25,760
belly buttons. Everybody's got one. So,

1012
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,559
I'll let the mayor I mean the law

1013
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,720
director go ahead and give his opinion.

1014
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,200
>> Commissioner, you had a vacancy as of

1015
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,000
12:01 a.m. September 1. that vacancy uh

1016
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,760
has not been filled.

1017
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:40,319
>> Okay.

1018
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:42,000
>> And remains open.

1019
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,440
>> So this vote tonight is for

1020
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,760
>> it's I think it's something that the

1021
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,440
commission I think the statute says

1022
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,839
shell it's uh basically confirming the

1023
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:57,280
vacancy should commission wish to move

1024
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,680
ahead with an appointment.

1025
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,680
uh it had there has to be a declaration

1026
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,319
of the vacancy but the notice of vacancy

1027
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:07,680
would have gone out by uh Jeff Cole on

1028
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,839
the first.

1029
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:13,520
>> Okay. So if if this com this body wants

1030
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,200
to move ahead with an appointment I

1031
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,799
thought there was an election

1032
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:19,440
>> there is

1033
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,480
>> November 8th

1034
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,200
>> there is you would be you have the right

1035
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,599
to appoint it's going to be for a very

1036
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:27,280
limited time.

1037
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,880
>> Okay. Um, is this letter that we

1038
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,960
received is it a form letter?

1039
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,760
>> No, it's one it's not a form letter in

1040
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,359
the fact that uh I prepared it. You will

1041
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:41,280
see there are blanks in the letter

1042
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,400
because I didn't know who the

1043
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,160
commissioner was at the time I drafted

1044
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:44,640
it.

1045
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,599
>> Okay.

1046
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:46,079
>> Um,

1047
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:51,040
>> did Mrs. Henry request that form letter?

1048
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,920
>> It was requested. I did not speak

1049
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,000
directly with her until after the letter

1050
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,160
was signed. believe it was a chairman of

1051
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,960
the Democratic Party that contacted me.

1052
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,599
>> Oh, interesting. Who would that be?

1053
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:04,880
>> Oh gosh.

1054
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,319
>> Chase Lindsay.

1055
01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:07,280
>> Okay.

1056
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,280
>> All right. Um,

1057
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,760
so I was just a little confused about

1058
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,160
the vacancy and the election. So, who

1059
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,240
made the decision

1060
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960
to put this on the ballot for November

1061
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,520
the 8th?

1062
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,720
>> That would have been your election

1063
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,440
commission.

1064
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,839
>> The election commissioner did. Okay. and

1065
01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:29,920
he I'm sure he has TCA to back up his

1066
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,720
decision.

1067
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,040
>> I mean, they have a copy of that letter.

1068
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,000
Um, he's been he talked to me early on,

1069
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,839
but he's been in communication with

1070
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:40,480
attorneys for the election commission in

1071
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,480
Nashville, as I understand it.

1072
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,640
>> Okay. It's just a little confusing that

1073
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,599
we we are now kind of seems like we've

1074
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,359
got the cart before the horse here and

1075
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:53,280
it's feeling like a rubber stamp for

1076
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,760
tonight. So, I just wanted to kind of

1077
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,640
clear that [clears throat] up a little

1078
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,640
bit. I've had several questions.

1079
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,480
>> I I mean, whatever questions you have,

1080
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,000
Commissioner, I'll I'll do my best.

1081
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,520
>> Well, I mean, I've had several questions

1082
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,119
that I could not answer. That's why I'm

1083
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,040
asking some of these.

1084
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,520
>> Um, also, I was curious as to this

1085
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,160
letter was dated August 31st. Correct.

1086
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,799
>> I was wondering why it took two weeks to

1087
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:18,880
notify commission of her intent to not

1088
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,160
take the position.

1089
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,839
>> That is a question you would have to ask

1090
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:23,839
Miss Henry. I do not know the answer.

1091
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:27,040
>> Oh, okay. So, um I think it was the

1092
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,880
Anderson County clerk that sent out the

1093
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,720
letter to us. That's correct. It took

1094
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,760
two weeks to

1095
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,040
>> to uh inform commission. I know we heard

1096
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,559
through the grapevine and all of that,

1097
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:39,359
but

1098
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:41,200
>> just the process and procedures. I'm

1099
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,160
just trying to

1100
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,559
>> right the um when the letter was

1101
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,440
returned

1102
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,319
>> time.

1103
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:52,079
>> There's no time on questions. This is

1104
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:59,349
only for um it's my understanding.

1105
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:01,200
» Commissioner, when the letter arrived

1106
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,319
back at my office, it came from Ms.

1107
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:05,359
Henry

1108
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:08,079
>> from her email address.

1109
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:11,680
A copy was forwarded to

1110
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,240
you as chairman of the commission.

1111
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,040
>> A copy was sent to Jeff Cole and a copy

1112
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,000
was sent to Mark Stevens. Now, the

1113
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,520
letter came back addressed to uh the

1114
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,440
five election commissioners. That was a

1115
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,040
change that was made to the letter from

1116
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,640
what I sent out.

1117
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,160
>> Okay.

1118
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,680
All right. Thank you for clearing that

1119
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,510
up.

1120
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,480
» I just have one question. So, if Miss

1121
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,000
Henry walks in right now and says, "I

1122
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,680
want to take my seat and get sworn in."

1123
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,319
Could she do it?

1124
01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:43,359
>> She could do it

1125
01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:44,559
>> until we vote on this

1126
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:47,040
>> until you until you accept. I don't know

1127
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,359
if you call it a resignation. She didn't

1128
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:50,960
what's she resigning from? She never

1129
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,599
qualified to take the office. So, it's a

1130
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,079
refusal to serve or declination to

1131
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,480
serve.

1132
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,200
And you can call it a you can call it a

1133
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,000
resignation if you'd like, but I think

1134
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,079
it's important that commission take some

1135
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,880
action to shift the burden from

1136
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,640
commission to Miss Henry should she

1137
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:17,270
change her mind.

1138
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,039
most unusual circumstance,

1139
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,920
>> but it's not it's not unprecedented.

1140
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,799
>> Uh there what was very helpful to me was

1141
01:03:26,799 --> 01:03:29,280
a 1984 Supreme Court decision.

1142
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,119
>> Okay,

1143
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:33,119
Mr. Chairman, I will yield my time to

1144
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,880
Commissioner Palmer for any questions

1145
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,559
she has further.

1146
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,559
>> Um I I'm okay with the No,

1147
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,319
>> you Mr. Chairman, there's no yielding of

1148
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:41,680
time.

1149
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,400
>> This isn't Congress.

1150
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,920
We got three minutes. We got three

1151
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,359
minutes. It's the chairman's discretion

1152
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:50,319
to allow commissioners to talk. So, Mr.

1153
01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:52,240
Chairman, this this this item is Mr.

1154
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,200
Chairman,

1155
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,440
>> this item is not on the agenda. We need to get down to business. If we

1156
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,240
want to have a discussion about uh the

1157
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,839
chairmanship, we need to call a

1158
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:05,760
different meeting for that. That that ship has sailed and we need to move

1159
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,400
on and get down to business.

1160
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,920
>> Mr. Chairman, I would respectfully

1161
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,520
request that you allow me to yield my

1162
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,280
time. Yeah, go ahead.

1163
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:13,680
>> Go ahead.

1164
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,160
>> Thank you.

1165
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,029
>> I I don't have any further

1166
01:04:16,029 --> 01:04:17,680
[clears throat] questions, Mr. Chairman.

1167
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:18,880
This has nothing to do with the

1168
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,200
chairmanship. I'm trying to understand

1169
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,839
how where we're at

1170
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:28,079
>> um in this vacancy. This is not

1171
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:31,039
unprecedented, but it's unusual for us.

1172
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:32,799
And that's all I was trying to get to

1173
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:36,640
was how what happens what happens next.

1174
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,400
And commission's been kind of kept in

1175
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,319
the dark about this. We've not had any

1176
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:43,119
formal um

1177
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:46,079
any kind of formal communication from

1178
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,240
those in it. It's all been through

1179
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,359
social media and word of mouth. So

1180
01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:53,200
that's that's all that was about.

1181
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,520
>> Commissioner Palmer, I disagree. Uh we

1182
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,680
had a special call meeting on September

1183
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,559
the 1st and the law director informed us

1184
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:02,960
then that there was a vacancy and that

1185
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,640
the commission was a 15 member

1186
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,640
commission until

1187
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,119
you know we took action and that's what

1188
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:11,760
we're doing tonight because we didn't do

1189
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,839
it on September 1st. It was not on the

1190
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:16,880
agenda. Uh but this is the first meeting

1191
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,400
we've had. So we're taking that action

1192
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,280
tonight to clear this up and actually

1193
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,599
declare the vacancy. So,

1194
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:26,559
>> thank you, Mr. Chair.

1195
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:27,520
>> Accept the vacancy.

1196
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,400
>> I I do not all that could be discussed

1197
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,319
on September 1st was what was on that

1198
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:34,640
agenda. So, we did not discuss it.

1199
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,119
>> A couple of people did get a letter

1200
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:41,440
4:30, 5:00, August 31st. It was not

1201
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,559
discussed on September 1st, but I've not

1202
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:48,480
had any emails or anything, but I will I

1203
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,559
respect your opinion. That's fine. Thank

1204
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:51,200
you.

1205
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,720
>> Thank you.

1206
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,359
>> Anybody else?

1207
01:05:55,359 --> 01:05:56,799
If not, all in favor of the motion, let

1208
01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:58,079
me know by saying I.

1209
01:05:58,079 --> 01:05:58,559
>> I.

1210
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,079
>> Any opposed?

1211
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:03,599
>> Motion carried. Now,

1212
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:11,109
>> next item is appointments.

1213
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:12,640
Civil service board appointment

1214
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,200
reapport.

1215
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,000
Is that uh that's something you're going

1216
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,039
to handle, mayor? Um I think those first

1217
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:24,960
appointments there um

1218
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,359
those were sent to I mean those were not

1219
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:31,520
my appointments. So those are um I know

1220
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,160
the sheriff looked at those and I think

1221
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,240
he submitted those because their terms

1222
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:42,880
had all expired and so that's just for um he doesn't make those

1223
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,640
appointments either but that those folks

1224
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,319
that are currently serving are willing

1225
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:50,079
to continue serving. So,

1226
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:52,240
>> is there a motion to approve those two

1227
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,359
under service board?

1228
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:58,160
>> I have a motion on the second. Any

1229
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,390
discussion?

1230
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,680
» Who makes those appointments? You said

1231
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,680
it wasn't you or the the sheriff. Who

1232
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:06,559
makes those appointments?

1233
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:08,880
>> Commission makes those appointments.

1234
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,990
>> Okay.

1235
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,160
So, the

1236
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,000
Okay. So, my question is then where do

1237
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,920
these names come from? if they I I know

1238
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:18,960
they're reappoints.

1239
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,440
>> Yeah.

1240
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,559
>> But

1241
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:24,240
>> our process is is to post openings,

1242
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,319
>> you know,

1243
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:27,599
and I don't have an issue with any of

1244
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,160
these people. It's just that we don't

1245
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,280
have know anything about them or

1246
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,200
reappoints that, you know, and I know we

1247
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,400
usually reappoints go fine, but

1248
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,160
just have some questions. So,

1249
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,000
>> sure. It it's up to you all if you want

1250
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,599
to post it. Um, all the sheriff did. He

1251
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:45,839
he's not trying to I just reached out to

1252
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:47,520
him as I was going through my boards and

1253
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,359
said, "Hey, you know, these are expired

1254
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:53,280
and I think in the past you all have

1255
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,039
operated based on the sheriff's

1256
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:58,400
recommendations even though it's, you

1257
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,640
know, your appointment." So, if you want

1258
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,480
to post those as vacancies and then um

1259
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,240
take the applications again from these

1260
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,680
individuals, that's certainly your

1261
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,880
purview. Um if that makes commission

1262
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,440
more comfortable.

1263
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,359
We have a motion and a second to approve

1264
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:17,759
these two names.

1265
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:20,880
Any further discussion? Mr. P.

1266
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,640
>> Commissioner Foster asked most of my

1267
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,359
questions. The last thing I had was that

1268
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:28,159
um I tried to get the answers and I was

1269
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:31,199
told uh by the clerk that we needed to

1270
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:33,600
um I needed to ask the sheriff. So that

1271
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,400
was one of them. It looks like this term

1272
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,279
expiring on 929 might be an appointment

1273
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,359
instead of a reappoint. And that was my

1274
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:44,000
only clarification. Is that a new one?

1275
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,000
>> No. No. He's he's currently serving.

1276
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,839
>> Okay. So, it's a reappoint. That's all I

1277
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:49,199
needed to ask. Thank you.

1278
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:50,159
>> Okay.

1279
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:52,880
>> Any further discussion? If not, all in

1280
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,440
favor of the motion saying I.

1281
01:08:55,440 --> 01:09:03,510
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1282
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:08,229
» Next one is uh

1283
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:11,440
Claxton School Task Force.

1284
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,359
Motion to appoint a commissioner to the

1285
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:17,510
open seat.

1286
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,400
Have a motion by Mr. Foster. Is there a

1287
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,000
second?

1288
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:22,799
>> What is your motion?

1289
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:24,080
>> My motion is to appoint Commissioner

1290
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,759
Palmer. And I think technically we need

1291
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:28,159
to appoint you as chair. I don't think

1292
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:30,640
when we made the original motion it was

1293
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,359
as chair. I think we picked the chair,

1294
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:37,120
but I don't think that was actually

1295
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,239
the case.

1296
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,520
>> Okay. Right. I think it was just chair.

1297
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,759
>> Yeah. So, I'm not actually sure if

1298
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:47,440
Commissioner Palmer would technically

1299
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:48,880
still be on the committee because she

1300
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,719
was appointed because she was chair, but

1301
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:54,080
I don't think it was the way it was

1302
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,600
originally appointed. So, actually, I

1303
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,199
guess my motion is to appoint

1304
01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:59,600
Commissioner Mckame to the one seat as

1305
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,280
chair and then Commissioner Palmer would

1306
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,600
already be on there. I don't think it

1307
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,480
was tied to the chairmanship.

1308
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:07,840
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong on

1309
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,760
that, but is there a second to that

1310
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,000
motion?

1311
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,239
Could

1312
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:13,120
>> restate the motion.

1313
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,520
>> Yeah. So, as I was making the motion, it

1314
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,760
hit me that I don't think we So, my

1315
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,679
motion is to nominate Commissioner

1316
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:21,520
McCain as chair to be on that committee.

1317
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,120
I think the only open spot would be

1318
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,400
Commissioner Bo Champ because she's no

1319
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,640
longer on committee on commission.

1320
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:33,360
>> Okay, we have a second. Any discussion?

1321
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,440
If not all in favor of the motion lab

1322
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:36,719
saying I.

1323
01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:40,960
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1324
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,719
Uh

1325
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:45,040
next is county mayor report.

1326
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,800
>> Thank you Mr. Chairman. The first item

1327
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,640
on the agenda has already been

1328
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,040
corrected. I had requested that my

1329
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,360
parliamentary inquiry regarding whether

1330
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,040
a vacancy existed be added to the

1331
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,880
amendments and um those were included

1332
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,080
under the consent agenda. So there's no

1333
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,120
action required because what you what

1334
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,120
you all approved

1335
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,320
um I'm not sure if Miss Emmert did it or

1336
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,280
net but it was corrected.

1337
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,679
Um next I'm requesting a motion to

1338
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:18,159
confirm the reappoint of Ernie BS to the

1339
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,080
Anderson County Water Authority term

1340
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,040
expiring 92030.

1341
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,560
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

1342
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,719
discussion?

1343
01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:28,719
Not all in favor of that motion late

1344
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:32,320
saying I. Any opposed? Motion carried.

1345
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,000
>> Next is I'm requesting a motion to

1346
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,679
confirm the reappoints of the following

1347
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:37,440
to the board of health. Dr. Thomas

1348
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:40,159
Meyers for the dentist position. Jim

1349
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:42,560
McBride for the pharmacist position. Dr.

1350
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,360
Mark Garrett, veterinarian. Brenda Val,

1351
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,840
registered nurse. Dr. Thomas Clary,

1352
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,080
physician, and Dr. Curtis Ston,

1353
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,920
physician.

1354
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,400
>> Have a motion and a second to approve

1355
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,960
those for the board of health. Any

1356
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,640
discussion?

1357
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,640
If not, all in favor of the motion late

1358
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,760
saying I.

1359
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,320
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1360
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,920
>> Next, I'm requesting a motion to confirm

1361
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,679
the reappoint of Bryce Kidwell to the

1362
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:09,600
Emergency Communications District Board

1363
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,320
of Directors term expiring January 2030.

1364
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,360
>> Have a motion and a second to approve

1365
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,199
Mr. Kidwell.

1366
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,000
Any discussion? If not, all in favor of

1367
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,760
the motion saying I

1368
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,400
>> just had a question. Uh he he's not

1369
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,880
employed by Anderson County anymore. So

1370
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,360
it's as a citizen.

1371
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,640
>> Um yes, but you nobody has to be a

1372
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,120
member of Anderson County government.

1373
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:39,440
Yeah.

1374
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,199
>> I just wanted you know because people

1375
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:42,880
see the name and think that still in

1376
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:43,679
that position.

1377
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:44,159
>> Yes.

1378
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:44,560
>> Okay.

1379
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,120
>> Yep.

1380
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,199
>> Um

1381
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,040
next is I'm requesting a motion to

1382
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,360
confirm the appointments and reappoints

1383
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,080
to the solid waste advisory board. Steve

1384
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,120
Poppik, term expiring 9 2032. Harold

1385
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,320
Edwards, term expiring 9 2031.

1386
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,159
Commissioner Robert McCain, term

1387
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:07,360
experience expiring 9 2032. Commissioner

1388
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:13,600
Jeff PAC, term exper expiring 9 2032.

1389
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,679
>> Have a motion and a second. Is there any

1390
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:17,440
discussion?

1391
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:19,760
If not, I'll in favor the motion saying

1392
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,400
I.

1393
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:20,880
>> I.

1394
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,440
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1395
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,360
Next, I'm requesting a motion to confirm

1396
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,640
the [clears throat] reappoint of Ned

1397
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,560
Ferguson to the Anderson County Regional

1398
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,750
Planning Commission term expiring 92030.

1399
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,640
» Have a motion and second. Any

1400
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,239
discussion?

1401
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:39,600
>> If not, all in favor of the motion,

1402
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,960
leave the number saying I.

1403
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,600
>> I.

1404
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,480
>> Any opposed? Motion carries.

1405
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:46,400
Um, next I'm requesting a motion to

1406
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,679
appoint the following, these are

1407
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:50,320
one-year terms to the ethics committee,

1408
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,600
and that's uh by resolution. Uh, two of

1409
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,520
the positions are spelled out in the

1410
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,840
resolution. One is an other related

1411
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,560
governmental member. So, um, I'm

1412
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,040
requesting the reappoint of Dr. Tim

1413
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,840
Parrot and the reappointment of Regina

1414
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,000
Copelan for the constitutional officer

1415
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,960
position as well as Commissioner Shane

1416
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,040
Val, Commissioner Denise Palmer and

1417
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,679
Commissioner Michael Foster.

1418
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:17,760
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

1419
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,280
discussion?

1420
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,280
If not, all in favor of that motion

1421
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,560
saying I.

1422
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,520
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1423
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,480
Next is a request um I'm requesting a

1424
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:30,239
motion to appoint the following to the

1425
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:33,199
adultoriented establishment board. Uh in

1426
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:35,120
my time here, we've never had to meet

1427
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,280
and hopefully we won't ever have to

1428
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,840
meet, but I it is an important board

1429
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,800
should should we have to. So, uh I'm

1430
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,280
requesting to appoint Commissioner Chad

1431
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,679
McNab, Commissioner Denise Palmer,

1432
01:14:47,679 --> 01:14:50,239
Commissioner Shannon Gray, Commissioner

1433
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:52,960
Shane Val, and Commissioner Jeff PAC.

1434
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,840
These are four-year terms by statute.

1435
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,040
So, their terms would expire 92030.

1436
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,640
>> We have a motion and a second. Any

1437
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,960
discussion?

1438
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,719
>> If not, all in favor of the motion, let

1439
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:06,080
them say I.

1440
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,719
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1441
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:10,880
>> Uh, next, I'm requesting a motion to

1442
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,640
confirm the reappoints and appointments

1443
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,480
to the Anderson County Economic

1444
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:17,360
Development Association. Uh, John K.

1445
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,679
Alli Jr., Leonard Abatello, Ernie BS,

1446
01:15:21,679 --> 01:15:26,320
Steve Clap, Jason Deal, Tim Isbull,

1447
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,640
William Bear Stevenson, and Nikki

1448
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,719
Swisser.

1449
01:15:30,719 --> 01:15:33,360
>> Have a motion and a second one. Any

1450
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,920
discussion? If not, all in favor of that

1451
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,920
motion saying I.

1452
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,679
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1453
01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:45,120
And um the next is I'm requesting a

1454
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,440
motion to enter the budget review letter

1455
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:50,560
for fiscal year 2027 from the Tennessee

1456
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,640
CompTroller Division of Local Government

1457
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,280
Finance into the minutes. Presentation

1458
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,280
of this letter to commission is

1459
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,040
required.

1460
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,560
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

1461
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,560
discussion?

1462
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,560
If not, I'll in the motion late with no

1463
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,760
saying I.

1464
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,960
>> Any oppose? Motion carried.

1465
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,280
>> And then uh Mr. Mr. Chairman, I have no

1466
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,199
other action items. All the other

1467
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:15,360
information I put in there were status

1468
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,320
reports. Um I hope you're finding those

1469
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,400
reports useful and if there's other

1470
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,320
information you want from them, just

1471
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,400
please let me know. Um we'll start um

1472
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,600
EMS is going to add one next month. So

1473
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,120
we'll start getting them on that same

1474
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,000
monthly rotation as well. And then I

1475
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,920
included the annual financial reports

1476
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,679
for the volunteer fire departments and

1477
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:41,040
rescue squad. And at operations meeting,

1478
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,600
I mentioned a list of TOT investments

1479
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,199
for a 10-year period and um it was

1480
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:52,400
requested I offered to submit that as

1481
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,480
part of the mayor's report and that was

1482
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:56,400
uh requested. So that's in your packet

1483
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,440
as well. And that's all I have for this

1484
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:00,080
evening.

1485
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,760
>> Thank you.

1486
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,239
Next is uh department head director of

1487
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:07,520
finance request to speak not working.

1488
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,040
Somebody's cut me off.

1489
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,120
>> I didn't see it. I'm sorry.

1490
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,800
>> I just have a quick question about the

1491
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,719
volunteer fire departments. Is it

1492
01:17:14,719 --> 01:17:16,800
required that they report their

1493
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,040
financial reports to commission?

1494
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,600
>> Um it's required that they are reported

1495
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,199
to the state of Tennessee.

1496
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:27,120
>> Okay. And um each year

1497
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,600
um they have to fill those out. And part

1498
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,159
of Anderson County's

1499
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,560
um I don't know how long ago this was. I

1500
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,480
mean before I was ever here, part of

1501
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:40,080
their review was ensuring you are by

1502
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,000
statute required to if you're going to

1503
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,600
make a donation,

1504
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:48,480
>> you have to um you know, most if if

1505
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,000
they're over a certain level, a

1506
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,360
nonprofit agency has to have an audit on

1507
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:59,199
file with the finance office. And in the

1508
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,840
case of Anderson County's donation, it's

1509
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,719
just part of ensuring that they have met

1510
01:18:04,719 --> 01:18:08,400
the financial requirements and each year

1511
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,320
for the donation, they look at that to

1512
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,480
make sure that they have met the

1513
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,080
requirements of the state submitting

1514
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,920
that form to the state.

1515
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,280
>> I noticed that a couple had significant

1516
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,280
money in CDs or some money in CDs, not

1517
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,280
all of them, but a few of them. I

1518
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,719
wondered is that the norm? Is that a

1519
01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:31,199
normal practice?

1520
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:32,960
>> I don't know. I'd have to go back and

1521
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,080
look at um the prior reports. I mean, I

1522
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,800
normally look at them. Our EMA does

1523
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,159
because that's part of the finance

1524
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:41,920
office signing off to make sure they can

1525
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,679
get their contribution.

1526
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:45,440
>> Um they look at a couple of different

1527
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:46,640
things

1528
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,560
>> and I've looked at them, but I haven't

1529
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,400
made mental note of that. I just

1530
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,239
wondered because you know if it's in a

1531
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:55,440
CD it's tied up for a period of time so

1532
01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:57,679
I didn't know if that was a normal

1533
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:00,000
financial practice or not. So I was just

1534
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,920
curious. Like I said not all of them had

1535
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,000
that but I did notice it on a couple.

1536
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,120
>> Yeah.

1537
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:05,600
>> Thank you.

1538
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,239
>> I can find out

1539
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:10,480
>> the CD [clears throat] fire department

1540
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:10,880
has

1541
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,199
>> we can take it out at any time and we do

1542
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:14,880
it to raise more money. It's an effort

1543
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,679
to raise more money and you know the the

1544
01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:20,239
county and the the community is most

1545
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:22,560
gracious. So instead of it just sitting

1546
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,159
there not drawing any interest, we

1547
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:27,199
choose to do that because it helps out.

1548
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:28,400
>> Okay.

1549
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,159
>> But we can draw it out at any time.

1550
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:32,000
There's a penalty, but we can still draw

1551
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,880
it out.

1552
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,470
>> Okay.

1553
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:39,840
» We'll move on to the director of

1554
01:19:39,840 --> 01:20:00,709
finance.

1555
01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:11,675
Okay.

1556
01:20:11,685 --> 01:20:12,159
» [clears throat]

1557
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:14,080
>> Sorry. Cash and fund balance report

1558
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,760
ending August 31st um 2026.

1559
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,480
Restricted funds 1.1 million. Committed

1560
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:23,520
funds are 388,270.

1561
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,480
Assigned funds 301,876.

1562
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:31,280
Unassigned fund balance is 7,291687

1563
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,199
for a total fund balance of 9,152079.

1564
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:39,270
cash 14,49748

1565
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,159
which is 1.8 million less than last year

1566
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:44,560
at this time. I'd also want to point out

1567
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,640
that the unassigned fund balance is

1568
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,960
below the limit of 8 million requiring

1569
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,360
2/3 votes for budget amendments that

1570
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,239
affect the unassigned fund balance. And

1571
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:55,600
so I'm trying to point those out to

1572
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,920
y'all and we do have one tonight. Um

1573
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,120
when we get to that I'll let you know

1574
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,199
that for sure um which one it is. But um

1575
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:06,480
we are below the 8 million limit in our

1576
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:09,520
fund balance policy. Also schools um

1577
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:14,070
total fund balance 16,28,766.

1578
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:18,070
Cash $13,493928.

1579
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,159
Any questions on the fund balance or

1580
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:27,590
cash and fund balance report?

1581
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:28,960
» Sales tax. Uh

1582
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,640
>> Commissioner Wandelle. Oh, I'm sorry.

1583
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,880
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Robbie, I don't

1584
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,719
mean to I want to catch you before you

1585
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:37,280
get into everything else. What What was

1586
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,520
the rollover amount from last year?

1587
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,120
>> Well, I should have mentioned too, these

1588
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,719
are unudedited, so I don't have really

1589
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:45,520
have a rollover amount, but obviously I

1590
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,000
mean, we didn't have any rollover. We

1591
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,239
had a deficit rollover if if anything

1592
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:52,639
this year

1593
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:54,400
>> and this is the first year we've not had

1594
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,120
any ARPA funds that we spent an assigned

1595
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,840
fund balance. I

1596
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,480
we spent 1.5 million of the fund balance

1597
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:06,080
on different items in the budget um

1598
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,480
capital project items and we also had a

1599
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:12,709
budget deficit of a,83,247

1600
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:15,040
and I'd also like to add that with the

1601
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,960
7.2 million it's already taken into

1602
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,880
account this year's budget deficit of

1603
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,040
1,277,000.

1604
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,800
So that comes off automatically on the

1605
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,040
fund on the unassigned.

1606
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,920
So all those are factors in why it's

1607
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,440
lower.

1608
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:30,719
>> Mr. Chairman, just for point of

1609
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,960
clarification, how how many votes would

1610
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,000
it require to allow us to go below that

1611
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,679
threshold with that rule? Robbie, you

1612
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:38,000
mentioned

1613
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,080
>> 2/3. And that's a good question. And for

1614
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,840
15, it would have been 11, but we have

1615
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,920
14 tonight. So I'm not sure if

1616
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:48,629
Commissioner Barren is a no vote or

1617
01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:49,920
how that works.

1618
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,800
>> Typic 15 would be 10.

1619
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,440
>> Be 10 based on the number.

1620
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:56,800
The commission is 15.

1621
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:01,430
>> Yes. I'm sorry. 10.

1622
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,520
» So, we still need 10 votes even with one

1623
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,040
missing. Okay. Gotcha. Thank you.

1624
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,159
>> So, if I know we have some new folks on

1625
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:09,920
commission. Could you explain to them

1626
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,320
what that what that means when we go

1627
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,239
below that threshold?

1628
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:16,239
>> Why we It's a rule we have.

1629
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,880
>> Sure. the the county had developed a

1630
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,880
fund balance policy for the general fund

1631
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,679
and we said it it it has continued to

1632
01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:26,320
rise the last two or three years. Um the

1633
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,560
latest um

1634
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,639
from the finance committee actually is

1635
01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:32,400
where the fund balance policy comes

1636
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,400
from. The latest one was set at 8

1637
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,880
million which we've been above um we've

1638
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,639
never had we've not gone below that um

1639
01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:42,560
in two or three years but um this year

1640
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,239
um

1641
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:46,800
we are at 7.2 2 million like I said and

1642
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,719
um of course that's unudited that could

1643
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:51,040
change but we usually we won't get our

1644
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,239
audit numbers till um November December.

1645
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:59,189
So

1646
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:00,880
anyway if it goes below that it requires

1647
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,199
twothirds votes for budget amendments

1648
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:05,679
that affect the assigned fund balance.

1649
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:08,560
So

1650
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,239
only in county commission not in budget

1651
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:17,350
committee level.

1652
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,159
» Any other question?

1653
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:21,199
>> Go ahead.

1654
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:22,239
>> Commissioner Wandell, do you have

1655
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:22,719
anything?

1656
01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:23,440
>> Oh no.

1657
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:24,159
>> Okay.

1658
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:25,828
>> Thank you.

1659
01:24:25,828 --> 01:24:26,639
[clears throat]

1660
01:24:26,639 --> 01:24:28,560
>> Okay. Sales tax. Uh the county portion

1661
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,600
as a whole 4,986,898.

1662
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:35,600
That's up 10.5% from last July. Anderson

1663
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,960
Countyy's portion 599492

1664
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:46,123
18% increase from last July.

1665
01:24:46,133 --> 01:24:48,470
[snorts]

1666
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:51,520
ARP projects um we currently have four

1667
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,040
projects remaining. The uh largest with

1668
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,560
broadband Comcast $250,000. They haven't

1669
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,159
as the mayor explained in the last

1670
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:02,320
budget meeting were still haven't been

1671
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,040
build for that. Uh two of those projects

1672
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,199
the um block house valley recycling

1673
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:10,719
center are not tied to the uh December

1674
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:12,960
date because they are using of ARPA

1675
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,159
interest and the T deck ARP water in

1676
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:19,440
infrastructure investment 52,419 that's

1677
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:22,320
what's left should be taken care of by

1678
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,880
the end of October um according to John

1679
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,880
in finance.

1680
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,440
Any questions on the ARPA?

1681
01:25:29,440 --> 01:25:32,320
>> Yes. [clears throat] Wait.

1682
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,320
>> So, Robbie,

1683
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,520
do we have what is it? 48,000.

1684
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,159
>> Oh, I'm sorry. $160 in interest. Yes,

1685
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:40,639
sir.

1686
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:41,840
>> So, that's

1687
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,360
>> can be spent on anything. And it doesn't

1688
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:44,880
have a date time limit as far as

1689
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,560
spending either.

1690
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,400
>> And we can use it on anything that

1691
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,199
relates to the improvement of our

1692
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:52,239
citizens

1693
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:53,440
>> or anything.

1694
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:56,159
>> Okay. Thank you. all any any project in

1695
01:25:56,159 --> 01:25:59,199
the county would like to.

1696
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:01,040
And a grant list, we provide this list

1697
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,800
each year. This is the newest grant list

1698
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,679
for um fiscal year 2627. Um total grants

1699
01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:11,590
27,216,524.

1700
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,870
Um

1701
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,239
so far this year, we added two new

1702
01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:18,960
grants. CMS uh rural health

1703
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,639
transformation ambulance grant of

1704
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:22,320
305,461

1705
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,000
and the district attorney's office of

1706
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:30,390
special attorneys program of $953,55.

1707
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,480
Any questions on that? [snorts]

1708
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:34,880
>> Yeah, those two new grants, where do

1709
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,080
they come from?

1710
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,639
>> Where the grants come from?

1711
01:26:38,639 --> 01:26:42,310
>> Um

1712
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,239
well, General Clark might answer this

1713
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:46,000
question.

1714
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,440
I'm not sure about the and

1715
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:51,440
the state of Tennessee is is the EMS

1716
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,440
grant, right?

1717
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:54,880
>> The state of Tennessee with the EMS

1718
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:59,590
grant. The special attorneys

1719
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,199
» commissioner from the United States from

1720
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:02,719
the US Department of Justice.

1721
01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:05,600
>> Okay, I that's good information to know

1722
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,615
for the people at home to know that.

1723
01:27:07,615 --> 01:27:07,679
[clears throat]

1724
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:09,520
>> Thank you.

1725
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,040
>> Yes. And that's this is one year of that

1726
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,239
grant. And I think we have a it's a

1727
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:14,719
three-year grant of that special.

1728
01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:16,480
>> So we'll get that every year for three

1729
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:16,880
years.

1730
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,199
>> Yes. Thank you.

1731
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:22,159
>> The uh EMS one is from the state of

1732
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:23,840
Tennessee, one of their rural health

1733
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,719
grants and that will enable Anderson

1734
01:27:26,719 --> 01:27:29,440
County to buy an ambulance.

1735
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:31,600
So it's a really good one.

1736
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,719
>> Mr. Chair, may I continue with that? Now

1737
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:37,120
when it says rural health grant, is is

1738
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,440
that for the rural areas or they just

1739
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:42,560
Anderson County is a rural So, um, when

1740
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,320
they distribute the funds across the

1741
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:45,760
state of Tennessee, they have

1742
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,440
designations rural versus urban under

1743
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,840
their grant application or their how

1744
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,600
they're managing this grant for the

1745
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:58,080
state of Tennessee is um I have

1746
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,840
Commissioner Isabel, I've forgotten the

1747
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,080
number, but it's pretty much every

1748
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,000
county in the whole state of Tennessee

1749
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,239
except the metro areas. I see like

1750
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:08,960
MetroDavidson, Knox County, Nashville.

1751
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,320
So, um, it's been a real help for

1752
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,639
counties like Anderson that have a lot

1753
01:28:14,639 --> 01:28:17,040
of rural area, but under many

1754
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,960
designations, we're not considered a

1755
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,199
rural community because we have some of

1756
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:22,239
the urban centers,

1757
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,320
>> right? And I remember when we were just

1758
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,400
a rural county and then because of all

1759
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:27,360
the changes.

1760
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:27,760
>> Yeah.

1761
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,760
Okay. Thank you.

1762
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,679
>> And Commissioner Isel, just to correct

1763
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:33,120
the district attorney's office, the

1764
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,719
special attorneys program, that's

1765
01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:36,239
963,5005

1766
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:37,679
for three years. Okay.

1767
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:39,840
>> So, not each year that amount amount,

1768
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,159
but three years. So, that's dispersed

1769
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:43,360
over three years.

1770
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,760
>> All right. Thank you,

1771
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:46,719
>> Commissioner Palmer.

1772
01:28:46,719 --> 01:28:48,480
>> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted

1773
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:50,719
to say that's [clears throat] 27.2

1774
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:52,080
million.

1775
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,880
>> All those on the side, that is just

1776
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,800
amazing. And they're doing good work.

1777
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,560
All of the ones listed there on the side

1778
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:03,510
that's pursuing grants. It's amazing.

1779
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,040
One thing else to point out about the

1780
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,520
district attorney special award attorney

1781
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,159
program is the possibility of indirect

1782
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:12,320
cost $118,04

1783
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,159
that could come back to the county as

1784
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:16,080
far as revenue. So that's great.

1785
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,159
>> Yeah, that's

1786
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:20,159
>> we don't get that often ever.

1787
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:21,199
>> Mando,

1788
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:23,199
>> thank you, Mr. Chairman. Robbie, just

1789
01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:26,239
for clarification again for me, um these

1790
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:28,080
grants when they come in, I think you

1791
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,480
told me in the past they they just go

1792
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,600
right back into that fund for that

1793
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:34,960
department. Is that right?

1794
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,600
>> If we created by budget amendment. Yes,

1795
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:38,960
sir.

1796
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,360
>> And we don't adjust the budget at all.

1797
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,760
We just slide it right in.

1798
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,320
>> Well, the budget is adjusted with a

1799
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,760
budget amendment approved by budget

1800
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,679
committee. And like for example tonight,

1801
01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:51,120
the the one we were talking about the

1802
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,639
district attorney, it's a it's an

1803
01:29:52,639 --> 01:29:54,960
amendment tonight to put in this year's

1804
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,480
budget. So we do not put any grant in

1805
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:01,920
the budget unless it um is amended

1806
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:03,920
increasing revenue and expenditure

1807
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:04,320
codes.

1808
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:05,840
>> And so if a million comes into a

1809
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,320
department, you slide it into that

1810
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,880
department's code, but we don't make any

1811
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,880
adjustment to the overall budget on the

1812
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,199
front end of the year. The

1813
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:16,639
>> No, it would be an amendment to that

1814
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:18,639
budget. So it would just increase the

1815
01:30:18,639 --> 01:30:21,040
revenue for that department. But we

1816
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,639
don't make any adjustments to the

1817
01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:24,400
overall budget as a whole. Correct.

1818
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,239
>> We make adjustments to the if you're

1819
01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:27,760
increasing revenue, you have to have

1820
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,040
offsetting expenditure codes. So most of

1821
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:32,800
these grants are reimbursement grants.

1822
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,560
We're not getting the money up front. We

1823
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,239
are getting reimbursed once.

1824
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:36,719
>> Okay.

1825
01:30:36,719 --> 01:30:38,159
>> The department spends the money and then

1826
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:40,719
we recede it into that revenue code.

1827
01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:44,709
>> Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

1828
01:30:44,719 --> 01:30:44,880
Go

1829
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,560
>> ahead. Okay.

1830
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,880
Moving on to purchasing contracts. Um we

1831
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,199
have 10 contracts that all were approved

1832
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:54,480
by um with legal review and by the

1833
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:57,840
budget committee as well.

1834
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,080
Have a motion by Mr. Foster, second by

1835
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,840
McNab to take as a group.

1836
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,719
>> Yeah. [snorts] Any discussion on the

1837
01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:08,719
contracts?

1838
01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:12,320
>> Not all in favor of the motion saying I.

1839
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,920
>> Any oppose? Motion carried.

1840
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,560
Okay, thank you. And we have one surplus

1841
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:22,880
vehicle, a 2011 Crown Victoria. Um, that

1842
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,430
also needs approval.

1843
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:30,239
Have a motion and second.

1844
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:33,280
Any discussion?

1845
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,280
Not. All in favor of the motion saying

1846
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,239
I.

1847
01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:39,440
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

1848
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:40,560
Hey, Commissioner Isabel.

1849
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,120
>> Mr. Chairman, I I do have a question on

1850
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,480
one of the contracts. Spyglass IT

1851
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,679
contract number 27-0015.

1852
01:31:49,679 --> 01:31:51,920
One year device services auditing

1853
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,600
contract vendor will receive part of

1854
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:58,790
savings realized. What is that?

1855
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,159
» Am I reading that correctly?

1856
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:04,239
>> That yes. So that is one um

1857
01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:07,440
Robbie I think you and I were on that uh

1858
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:09,040
webinar. Were you not on that webinar

1859
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,520
with me? Okay. uh somebody from finance

1860
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,239
was and then uh Brian was as well. this

1861
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:17,600
company, what they do, they know all of

1862
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,520
your

1863
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,239
they know the process for telephone

1864
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:26,480
bills, any kind of communication

1865
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:30,880
um billing that you receive is very

1866
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,679
difficult to understand and actually

1867
01:32:33,679 --> 01:32:36,560
work with these with these firms because

1868
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,560
we're on we're in a position of really

1869
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,280
not understanding. And so what this

1870
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,600
company does is they audit. We will once

1871
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,960
authorized they get all of Brian will be

1872
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,800
sending them all of our bills or

1873
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,440
invoicing or contracts and then they

1874
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:56,719
will review it for savings. So, for

1875
01:32:56,719 --> 01:33:00,080
instance, a um

1876
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,080
let's say we've got a contract with a

1877
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,280
company where the technology change,

1878
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,400
pricing changes, and they're not going

1879
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,400
to be quick to volunteer that they've

1880
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,719
lowered prices or that something's more

1881
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:15,360
efficient. They're just, you know, happy

1882
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,679
that you're humming along writing the

1883
01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:19,920
checks. And so, that's what they're

1884
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,880
going to do is look at all of that. And

1885
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,320
then um it's based on a cost share. So

1886
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,199
we don't pay for anything unless we get

1887
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:31,440
savings and then it's a percentage but

1888
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:34,159
then obviously we realize the savings on

1889
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:35,280
our contracts.

1890
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:39,350
>> Okay. Thank you.

1891
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,760
» Have a motion second.

1892
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,920
Any discussion?

1893
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,800
>> Not all in favor. The motion say I.

1894
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,080
>> Any oppose? Motion carried.

1895
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,080
>> Thank you. So, group three, the consent

1896
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,560
agenda transfers. Um, it's no action

1897
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,120
from commission is necessary um after

1898
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,040
approved from budget committee. Group

1899
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,719
four, appropriations. There are six of

1900
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:02,239
those, three through eight from the

1901
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:10,149
school department,

1902
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:12,400
seeking approval as a group or

1903
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:16,950
individual. I can answer any questions.

1904
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,320
» Have a motion and a second. Do you say

1905
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,560
this is an appropriation? These are

1906
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:21,679
appropriations from the school

1907
01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:22,639
department.

1908
01:34:22,639 --> 01:34:23,760
>> From the school department.

1909
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:24,400
>> Yes.

1910
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:25,440
>> We need a board vote.

1911
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:26,639
>> We have to have a board vote. Yes.

1912
01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:33,750
>> Okay.

1913
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,040
» Commissioner Palmer,

1914
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:39,120
>> I just have a question. Um Robbie, that

1915
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,719
one no 220.

1916
01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:45,520
It's on uh number seven. That's from the

1917
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,920
school. That's going to be it says to

1918
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,400
other funds, but it's for the sheriff.

1919
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,040
Is that as of today, as it's written

1920
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,360
here, that's a one-time

1921
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,400
transfer, correct?

1922
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,880
>> For this year. Yes, sir. For this year,

1923
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,600
>> but it's if it's going towards salaries,

1924
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,239
the budget committee needs to be looking

1925
01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:08,080
at a reoccurring.

1926
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,159
>> Yes. And Dr. Perro said it would be and

1927
01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:14,709
>> he said it would be. Thank you.

1928
01:35:14,719 --> 01:35:15,840
Just the board vote.

1929
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:31,350
>> Yes.

1930
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:35,360
Okay. Motions pass. 14. Yes.

1931
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,120
>> Okay. Group five transfers from the

1932
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,239
school department. There are two of

1933
01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:41,920
those. Number one and nine.

1934
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:47,189
seeking approval as a group.

1935
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:49,199
» Have a motion and a second to approve as

1936
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:51,920
a group.

1937
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,320
>> This transfer you say

1938
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:55,760
>> it is transfers from the school

1939
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,159
department. Major line item transfer. So

1940
01:35:58,159 --> 01:36:00,400
they require full commission approval.

1941
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:01,679
>> Does it need a board vote?

1942
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:04,000
>> All all the budget amendments will need

1943
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:04,639
a board.

1944
01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:06,000
>> Okay.

1945
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,639
>> Need a board vote.

1946
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:09,520
>> Question.

1947
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,199
>> Oh, I'm sorry, Commissioner Palmer.

1948
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:13,040
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Same question for

1949
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,520
the 55,000. Yes, it's going to be a

1950
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,280
reoccurring.

1951
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:18,400
Okay.

1952
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:24,870
>> Up to two for 250,000 is 250. Yes. Okay.

1953
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,880
» He already had the 55,000 in a budget

1954
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,719
code. We're just moving it to a transfer

1955
01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:30,560
out code.

1956
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,639
>> Okay. So, it's going to be reoccurring.

1957
01:36:32,639 --> 01:36:35,120
That part is all right. Thank you. Okay.

1958
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:43,350
Board vote.

1959
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,520
14. Yes. [snorts] Motion carried.

1960
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,520
>> Thank you.

1961
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,639
Group six appropriations non-school.

1962
01:36:50,639 --> 01:36:52,159
Three are from the general fund and one

1963
01:36:52,159 --> 01:36:53,760
from the highway department. Also the

1964
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,280
district attorney grant that we spoke

1965
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,119
about earlier is um in this group of

1966
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:05,270
appropriations for $265,1343.

1967
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,199
Have a motion and a second to approve

1968
01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:10,550
the group.

1969
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,600
Any discussion?

1970
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:21,109
If not, board vote.

1971
01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:23,520
» Motion carries. 14. Yes.

1972
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,000
>> Thank you. And group eight, there is one

1973
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,320
transfer from the mayor senior center uh

1974
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,159
for $26,500

1975
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:35,750
that um affects payroll.

1976
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,239
Have a motion and a second. Any

1977
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:40,800
discussion?

1978
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,840
If not, board vote.

1979
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:58,550
>> Yes.

1980
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,719
» Motion carried. 14. Yes.

1981
01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:03,920
>> Thank you. Um section A in miscellaneous

1982
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,840
the grant application from EMS for

1983
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,520
$7,840

1984
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,239
with no match. It's a Tennessee risk

1985
01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:13,679
management grant um to purchase two

1986
01:38:13,679 --> 01:38:16,080
powered main oxygen cylinder loading

1987
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,790
equipment. This is for application only.

1988
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,280
Have a motion and a second. Any

1989
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,239
discussion?

1990
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:28,159
If not, I'll in favor of the motion

1991
01:38:28,159 --> 01:38:31,360
saying I. I. Any opposed? Motion

1992
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:32,400
carried.

1993
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,719
>> Okay. Section B, the UT extension

1994
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:36,960
office. This will require twothirds vote

1995
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,400
and it will need to be a board vote

1996
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,920
because it does affect unassigned fund

1997
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:44,070
balance. Um,

1998
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:45,920
Seth White House requests an increase of

1999
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,800
$11,613.75

2000
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,960
for the UT extension budget. The

2001
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,239
additional funding will be appropriated

2002
01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:53,679
for unassigned fund balance. Require

2003
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:55,360
two-thirds vote from commission.

2004
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,040
Commissioner Mckame made the motion

2005
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,360
second by Commissioner Mag McNab to

2006
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,760
increase the extension office budget

2007
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,239
11,61375.

2008
01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:06,639
Voting no. Commissioner Cook Wells and

2009
01:39:06,639 --> 01:39:09,600
Bow and the motion passed.

2010
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,119
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

2011
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:13,760
discussion?

2012
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,400
If not, board vote. Oh, Commissioner

2013
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,080
Wales, I'm sorry.

2014
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,840
I would say um I was a no vote in that

2015
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,159
budget meeting based on uh the previous

2016
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:23,600
commissioners that served in this last

2017
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,239
term just the month before voted this

2018
01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:28,960
down in their budget approval. So for

2019
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,639
them to come back just less than 30 days

2020
01:39:30,639 --> 01:39:32,080
later asking for this money I thought

2021
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,239
was a little inappropriate and also a

2022
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:35,679
little hasty when this should be planned

2023
01:39:35,679 --> 01:39:36,880
out in accordingly with next year's

2024
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,669
fiscal budget. Thank you.

2025
01:39:41,679 --> 01:39:52,390
» It's a board vote.

2026
01:39:52,400 --> 01:40:01,189
» That motion failed. Only eight votes.

2027
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:03,840
Okay. Section C, Claxton Elementary, the

2028
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,119
task force renewal. Um there was a

2029
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:10,000
referral from the um Glaxon Elementary

2030
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,560
task force to

2031
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:13,920
for the general fund to loan the

2032
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,320
school's $4 million until the sale of

2033
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:20,800
the um school then the old school and

2034
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:21,760
then [clears throat] repay the general

2035
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,920
fund back. Um that motion was discussed

2036
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:27,360
at at I mean that ideal was discussed at

2037
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:28,639
length in the budget committee meeting

2038
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:32,719
but no action was taken. Um

2039
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:33,920
of course with the fund balance of

2040
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,320
general fund being 7.2 2 million. It's

2041
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,400
doesn't look as good for us now to loan

2042
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,080
the money as it did in the schools with

2043
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,760
a $16 million fund balance. So, um

2044
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,119
Dr. Parrot seem to think they could

2045
01:40:45,119 --> 01:40:49,280
handle the um the cost within their own

2046
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,030
budget.

2047
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:54,960
» Any questions?

2048
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,880
Okay.

2049
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,560
Section D, pay structure from the

2050
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,840
sheriff's department. Um

2051
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,159
the sheriff came with a proposal for an

2052
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:09,199
additional two and 9% increase. Um the

2053
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:10,880
proposed increases will be supported by

2054
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,960
$250,000 in funding from the school

2055
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,400
department along with savings from

2056
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,960
leaving six sheriff department operation

2057
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,360
positions unfilled. Following

2058
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,040
discussion, the final agreement provided

2059
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:22,880
for an additional 2% increase for

2060
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,040
employees in grades 2 through five and

2061
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,440
an additional 7% increase for employees

2062
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:29,920
in grades 6 through 13. effective the

2063
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:31,600
October 8th payroll and will not be

2064
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,080
compound will not be compounded on the

2065
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,280
already approved 3%. Commissioner McNab

2066
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,760
made the motion commission seconded by

2067
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,280
Commissioner Vandergri to approve the

2068
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:45,760
additional 2% and 7% increases um to

2069
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,000
that budget. This won't require

2070
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,040
two-thirds vote because with the um

2071
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,639
added funding from the school department

2072
01:41:52,639 --> 01:41:55,440
of 250,000 in the um along with the

2073
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:58,080
savings, we counted the six positions at

2074
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:02,639
$75,000 each, which is or 500,000. Um

2075
01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:07,040
the cost for these um salaries increases

2076
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,600
with but with um

2077
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,880
benefits is um 700 right around

2078
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,480
$730,000.

2079
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:17,679
So, um, it doesn't affect fun unassigned

2080
01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:19,199
fund balance.

2081
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:23,109
>> Okay,

2082
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:24,960
» Commissioner Palmer.

2083
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,440
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, Robbie, I

2084
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:30,880
just, um, I'm all for this. Um, but I

2085
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,159
I'm not real sure what to do here. So,

2086
01:42:34,159 --> 01:42:35,920
um, we discussed this for months and

2087
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,080
months during the budget, uh, committee

2088
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,280
last time and, uh, we always talked

2089
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:46,000
about this as a public safety issue and

2090
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,040
we included EMS every time that we spoke

2091
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,159
of it. Um, so, and I and I was an

2092
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:55,040
advocate because this is a public safety

2093
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,520
issue. we've got um two positions in EMS

2094
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:06,159
that we are having trouble retaining and recruiting. And so uh that w that

2095
01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:13,119
request was brought to us and we said we don't have a reoccurring funding and

2096
01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:15,360
uh revenue source. So we'll give

2097
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,480
everyone a 3% and we will get this bad

2098
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:20,880
budget passed by the deadline but then

2099
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,920
we will take this up. So, uh, when this

2100
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,880
came before budget, um, EMS was not

2101
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,719
included and I did not catch it that

2102
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:32,239
night. And so, I would like to I I don't

2103
01:43:32,239 --> 01:43:36,000
know how this needs to go, but EMS needs

2104
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,320
to have

2105
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:42,000
the same consideration for the positions

2106
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,080
that they are having trouble filling as

2107
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,239
well. And it is my understanding, you

2108
01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:47,920
correct me on these numbers if I'm

2109
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:52,480
wrong, Robbie, um, but they need $78,000

2110
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:56,400
to for this year and it would start at

2111
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,679
the same time that the sheriff raises

2112
01:43:59,679 --> 01:44:03,040
start. And I would suggest that we take

2113
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,000
that from the past remediation um, fund

2114
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,199
of the opioid funds. That will it it

2115
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:10,800
would be the same thing as getting it

2116
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,600
from the schools. it'll be a one time

2117
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,400
and that'll get us through this year. Um

2118
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,679
and then budget would need to look at

2119
01:44:19,679 --> 01:44:23,840
trying to fund EMS as well um for for

2120
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,960
the you know reoccurring expense of the

2121
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,840
salaries but we do need to include EMS

2122
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:34,800
in that public safety um overall

2123
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,320
you know retention and recruiting. So,

2124
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,800
just to clarify what Commissioner

2125
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:45,360
Palmer, um a 3% a $78,000 would be a 3%

2126
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:50,080
additional 3% increase for um paramedics

2127
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,430
and

2128
01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:55,199
» advanced CMT, I believe.

2129
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:57,897
>> And advanced CMT, sorry. Um the opioid

2130
01:44:57,897 --> 01:44:58,960
[clears throat] fund balance, there's

2131
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,400
restricted funds, has a $256,296

2132
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,080
fund balance and we've already collected

2133
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,080
$89,181

2134
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,920
this fiscal year in revenue for the

2135
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,960
opioid funds. So um it is a usable

2136
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:16,159
expense for opioids and um

2137
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:17,760
it would require twothirds vote from

2138
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,000
this from commission to add to approve

2139
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:20,719
that.

2140
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:22,639
>> And just one more comment please Mr.

2141
01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:24,400
chair. Um, this is

2142
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,960
>> First off, did you amend the motion?

2143
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,960
>> I I can if Yes, I I make that amendment.

2144
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,560
>> Okay.

2145
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,199
>> And we have a second to the amendment.

2146
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:36,159
>> Go ahead.

2147
01:45:36,159 --> 01:45:37,520
>> EMS [clears throat]

2148
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:41,199
touches all 82,000 of our citizens. Yes.

2149
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:43,920
>> And um it is one of the things that our

2150
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,480
citizens expect when they pick up the

2151
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:49,360
phone for EMS and the police, the

2152
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,000
sheriff's office to respond. And so I

2153
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:53,679
would just I just think we need to look

2154
01:45:53,679 --> 01:45:55,360
at both of these. I think it's that

2155
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:56,320
important.

2156
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:57,679
>> Okay.

2157
01:45:57,679 --> 01:46:00,080
>> And and Nathan has come to budget

2158
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,920
several times and made that request

2159
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:02,560
known.

2160
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,119
>> I agree. Commissioner,

2161
01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:06,639
>> thank you. I'm in agreement with

2162
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:08,719
Commissioner Palmer on this and I just

2163
01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:13,600
want uh our finance director's opinion

2164
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,360
>> about this raises.

2165
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,080
>> Yes, I honestly support this as well.

2166
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,760
>> I think um that it would help honest all

2167
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,760
I mean the sheriff came to the budget

2168
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,000
committee several times with asking for

2169
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,480
raises because he's having issues

2170
01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:30,639
keeping

2171
01:46:30,639 --> 01:46:32,400
billing retention keeping positions

2172
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:37,360
filled I mean honestly EMS is too it's every department in the county is

2173
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,520
having trouble with I mean we lose

2174
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,920
employees a lot retention's a an issue

2175
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,880
in the county but I also think it's some

2176
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,719
of the the younger employees

2177
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:51,119
they job hunt look for more pay. They

2178
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:52,639
don't care. They're the lawyer, you

2179
01:46:52,639 --> 01:46:54,400
know, retirement and things like that

2180
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,639
don't mean as much to them as as pay

2181
01:46:56,639 --> 01:46:58,960
does. So, we're all having that issue.

2182
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,119
Um, but I definitely would recommend

2183
01:47:01,119 --> 01:47:03,199
this for EMS. I think it would help them

2184
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:04,480
tremendously with

2185
01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:06,480
>> private dentistry has that same issue.

2186
01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:07,280
>> Yeah,

2187
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,880
>> it's just around everywhere.

2188
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:11,600
Commissioner WH,

2189
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:12,800
>> I guess I could put Commissioner

2190
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,560
Capshaw's parliamentarian on the spot,

2191
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,320
but does this muddy the water know when

2192
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,639
the sheriff's vote does not need two/3s

2193
01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:20,400
>> and this this amendment to the motion

2194
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,239
will require two/3s? Would it not be

2195
01:47:22,239 --> 01:47:24,960
better to separate those?

2196
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,880
>> Um, Mr. Broke, anybody that's got an

2197
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:27,920
opinion, I just

2198
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,280
>> That's a good point.

2199
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:30,639
>> Yes, I think.

2200
01:47:30,639 --> 01:47:33,119
>> Yeah, it's a good point. Okay, I'll

2201
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:34,880
withdraw my amendment and I'll make a

2202
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,880
different amendment afterwards or a

2203
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,639
different motion afterwards.

2204
01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:41,280
>> Okay. Second. Let's go back then to the

2205
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,119
first motion

2206
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:45,199
and that's on the sheriff's department.

2207
01:47:45,199 --> 01:47:49,189
>> You got it.

2208
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:50,560
» Oh, Mr. V.

2209
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,239
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll be

2210
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:55,199
abstaining for calls on this vote and to

2211
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:56,400
be honest with you, I don't know what

2212
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,159
that mean.

2213
01:47:58,159 --> 01:47:59,199
>> It does.

2214
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:00,639
>> I'll let you all figure that out. Thank

2215
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:06,550
you, Mr. Chair.

2216
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,199
» Okay. All in favor the motion let by

2217
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:10,560
saying I

2218
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,159
>> board vote in board. That's right. Board

2219
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:14,639
vote. I'm sorry. Board vote.

2220
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:16,719
>> This is just majority.

2221
01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:23,830
>> Yes.

2222
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,600
» Okay. We [snorts] have 13. Yes. One

2223
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,920
extension. Motion passes.

2224
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:34,000
>> Commissioner Palmer. I'm make a motion

2225
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,920
that we um take $78,000 from the past

2226
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,080
remediation

2227
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:44,800
uh opioid fund and uh send that to that

2228
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,880
doesn't require because I I have a

2229
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,560
funding source back to AMS for the races

2230
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,159
uh for his advanced EMTs and paramedics.

2231
01:48:54,159 --> 01:48:55,840
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

2232
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:56,400
discussion?

2233
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:57,600
>> And the only reason I say it required

2234
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:58,800
two/3s is because it wasn't on the

2235
01:48:58,800 --> 01:48:59,040
budget.

2236
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,480
>> It didn't go through budget. Correct.

2237
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:05,760
Shouldn't we add it to the agenda?

2238
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,440
Clarification on the parliamentarian.

2239
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:08,719
Does it need to be added agenda since

2240
01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:10,480
this is a new item?

2241
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:11,040
>> Yes.

2242
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:15,189
>> Then take a motion up on it.

2243
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:15,679
» Yes.

2244
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:17,920
>> Okay. I make a motion that we add it to

2245
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,320
the agenda.

2246
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,960
>> You second that. Okay. All favor the

2247
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:23,600
motion.

2248
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,600
>> I'd like to make a motion to amend if I

2249
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:26,960
could, Mr. Chairman. It's not letting me

2250
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,560
hit the button. I apologize. Make a

2251
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,000
motion that we amend this to go to

2252
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,600
budget committee to discuss and then

2253
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:40,709
bring it back before full commission.

2254
01:49:40,719 --> 01:49:42,960
» Have a motion to amend it. Second,

2255
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,600
Commissioner Wando.

2256
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,159
>> That's to refer this to the budget

2257
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:48,800
committee.

2258
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,040
>> Yes.

2259
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:55,270
>> Okay.

2260
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:56,480
Commissioner Palmer,

2261
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:58,480
>> I'm going to vote no on that at this

2262
01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:01,199
time just because we've exhaustively

2263
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:03,840
discussed it in the previous [snorts]

2264
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,080
budget meetings, but I understand that

2265
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,719
we do have uh new commissioners with us

2266
01:50:08,719 --> 01:50:11,440
now. So, but I wanted to explain why I'm

2267
01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:12,800
voting no on this.

2268
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,280
>> Okay,

2269
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,000
>> back to this, but I think for

2270
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,920
transparency, it should go back to the

2271
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,199
budget like the sheriff did to be honest

2272
01:50:23,199 --> 01:50:31,030
with you.

2273
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:39,669
Okay,

2274
01:50:39,679 --> 01:50:42,960
we have a motion on the floor and a

2275
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,199
second.

2276
01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:47,920
You're amending the motion, but

2277
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,719
basically it should not be an an

2278
01:50:50,719 --> 01:50:53,840
amendment to her motion. It should be a

2279
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,159
motion to refer

2280
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:58,560
to the budget committee which would take

2281
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,679
precedent over her original motion

2282
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:04,320
and then the second. So

2283
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:04,960
>> are you?

2284
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:05,520
>> Yes, sir.

2285
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,199
>> Okay with that. You

2286
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:08,960
>> Okay. So, we need to vote on this

2287
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,719
whether or not to refer it back to the

2288
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:12,960
budget committee.

2289
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,800
All in favor of that motion.

2290
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:16,000
>> You're going to need to clear the board

2291
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,840
though because this says much to amend

2292
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:21,360
and really it is a referral motion.

2293
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,920
>> All right. Uh, it's it's a motion, not a

2294
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:39,669
motion to amend.

2295
01:51:39,679 --> 01:51:42,480
Okay, now we're on there. This is a

2296
01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:45,920
motion to refer to the budget committee.

2297
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,920
All in favor of that motion late saying

2298
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:48,960
I.

2299
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,000
>> Any oppose? No.

2300
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:59,270
Motion carried.

2301
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,280
» Okay. Under new business, we had one

2302
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,520
item um

2303
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,440
when when the county approved or

2304
01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:06,560
commissioner approved the retention

2305
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,119
payments. We had one employee that was

2306
01:52:09,119 --> 01:52:10,880
currently working for clerk and master

2307
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,320
and then he went to the sheriffs, he

2308
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,000
missed both retention payments. So, the

2309
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,679
motion was just to approve the retention

2310
01:52:15,679 --> 01:52:18,480
payment um for this employee. And that

2311
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:20,400
did pass in budget committee. And I just

2312
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,040
need a vote here to pass. I mean to

2313
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:26,400
approve that motion or not approve.

2314
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,000
>> I have a motion and a second to

2315
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:33,589
approve the motion.

2316
01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:34,480
» Yep. Sorry.

2317
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:35,360
>> Okay.

2318
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:40,322
>> Motion. I didn't catch it.

2319
01:52:40,332 --> 01:52:40,880
[clears throat]

2320
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,639
>> We had one employee that was when the

2321
01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:46,560
sheriff's retention payments. They had

2322
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,080
to be there so long. he had just

2323
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,520
transferred to the sheriff's department.

2324
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,520
And when we gave the um general fund

2325
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,199
employee or all the retention payments

2326
01:52:55,199 --> 01:52:57,599
for the rest of the employees, he missed

2327
01:52:57,599 --> 01:52:59,040
out on that because he was working for

2328
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:00,159
the sheriff's department then, which

2329
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:01,920
they weren't included. So, he was not

2330
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,840
included in the any either retention

2331
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,000
payment. And the motion was to give him

2332
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,360
the $2,000 from the general fund.

2333
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,773
Thank you.

2334
01:53:11,773 --> 01:53:12,239
[snorts]

2335
01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:15,119
>> Any further discussion?

2336
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:18,480
Is this a board vote?

2337
01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:20,560
Yes, since it involves.

2338
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:30,070
>> Yeah. Okay. Board vote.

2339
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:31,280
Motion carried.

2340
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:32,719
>> Thank you. It's all I have unless you

2341
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:34,000
have any questions for me.

2342
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,639
>> Okay.

2343
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:39,199
See if they need a break before we get

2344
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:41,760
into the rest of this agenda. Let's take

2345
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,880
about 10 15 minutes break. We'll come

2346
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:54,870
back.

2347
01:53:54,880 --> 01:54:14,229
I have it

2348
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:18,550
trying to be a little slowly.

2349
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:47,189
The issues. Just

2350
01:54:47,199 --> 01:54:53,990
» Yeah.

2351
01:54:54,000 --> 01:55:17,350
Oh yeah.

2352
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:23,350
» Yes. It's not

2353
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,390
» they

2354
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:44,470
didn't really

2355
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:53,109
ask but they didn't

2356
01:55:53,119 --> 01:56:17,910
Yeah, it was a long meeting.

2357
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,119
Yeah.

2358
01:56:19,119 --> 01:56:20,639
>> Yeah. At the end they said that they

2359
01:56:20,639 --> 01:56:23,840
partnered or they shared information

2360
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:29,830
with 1600.

2361
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,199
» So um also in that meeting they stated

2362
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:37,360
that um Anderson County as a whole only

2363
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:42,719
has four. Okay. And each

2364
01:56:42,719 --> 01:56:45,119
>> each city within Anderson County has

2365
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:50,000
their own campus. So, um

2366
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,719
you would probably

2367
01:56:52,719 --> 01:56:55,599
have to have forums in each different

2368
01:56:55,599 --> 01:56:59,440
city to get within Anderson County to

2369
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:03,040
get those cameras pulled also.

2370
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,199
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm just letting you know

2371
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:06,400
that

2372
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,520
county as a whole that those cameras

2373
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,360
that come before the commissions,

2374
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:16,950
there's only four.

2375
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:21,669
» Yeah. So, there's only three working.

2376
01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:24,400
» Still three.

2377
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:29,510
>> Yeah, I did.

2378
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:44,709
» Yeah.

2379
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:45,840
two weeks.

2380
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,239
>> Yeah. And it's just um

2381
01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:51,119
>> these cameras have been up like five

2382
01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:57,910
years.

2383
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,360
» Apparently, it didn't come before the

2384
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,760
commission for approval either when they

2385
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:06,870
put I just

2386
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:43,910
did that also.

2387
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:47,040
Yeah, there is a gray outside that uh

2388
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:51,520
that form. So, um

2389
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,440
it doesn't doesn't look good for the

2390
01:58:53,440 --> 01:59:02,870
cameras.

2391
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:24,470
Oh, wow.

2392
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:35,589
You're welcome.

2393
01:59:35,599 --> 01:59:48,310
» That's it.

2394
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:59,030
Well, thank you. I hope

2395
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:03,040
» I almost did one of my

2396
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:12,470
citizen comments.

2397
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:23,510
Good.

2398
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:39,990
» No, sir.

2399
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:55,109
» Yes, you can.

2400
02:00:55,119 --> 02:01:09,430
Hey James, how are you doing?

2401
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:11,440
» Yeah, my husband

2402
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:25,510
I'm gonna make them look dressed up.

2403
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,480
You do have very thoughtful

2404
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:43,109
representatives.

2405
02:01:43,119 --> 02:02:00,870
You need to come get those.

2406
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:02,239
» Yeah.

2407
02:02:02,239 --> 02:02:25,189
>> I got turned it a little this way.

2408
02:02:25,199 --> 02:03:05,589
Oh yeah.

2409
02:03:05,599 --> 02:03:18,070
by you. Take it out.

2410
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:56,310
My mouth gets so dry though.

2411
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,320
sharing your page.

2412
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:01,119
>> This is great. Great.

2413
02:04:01,119 --> 02:04:03,505
>> Thank you.

2414
02:04:03,505 --> 02:04:13,589
[laughter]

2415
02:04:13,599 --> 02:04:31,750
Okay.

2416
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:37,990
Aaron's back.

2417
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:58,229
Where's my

2418
02:04:58,239 --> 02:05:18,790
» Are you here for Tim?

2419
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:27,030
Aaron

2420
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:28,960
see well

2421
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:44,629
tell Michael Foster.

2422
02:05:44,639 --> 02:06:02,390
» There he comes.

2423
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,119
Okay, the next item on the agenda is the

2424
02:06:05,119 --> 02:06:08,560
uh director of schools has a written

2425
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:10,320
report.

2426
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,400
He's got a replacement here today. Dr.

2427
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:16,719
Parrot has to answer any questions.

2428
02:06:16,719 --> 02:06:19,360
>> 10 shooters. [laughter]

2429
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,119
>> Hey, thanks for having me. Dr. parents

2430
02:06:21,119 --> 02:06:23,199
at the state superintendence conference.

2431
02:06:23,199 --> 02:06:26,960
So, I'm here to fill in. I'm Ben DS. Um,

2432
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:29,040
he sent you the de director's report.

2433
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:30,400
I'm just here to answer any question you

2434
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,800
have any questions. I will say that he

2435
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,040
and I walked the new Claxton school on

2436
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,280
Friday. Uh, and it's super impressive.

2437
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,440
Uh, looks really, really good. Uh, we're

2438
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:41,920
excited about that. Um, also another

2439
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:43,760
update. If you drive by our baseball

2440
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:45,760
fields at Clinton High School at the

2441
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:47,840
fairgrounds or at County High School,

2442
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:49,840
you'll notice that there's no lights.

2443
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:51,440
Um, so if you get any questions about

2444
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:54,079
that, uh, no fear. They're going back up

2445
02:06:54,079 --> 02:06:55,840
really quick. Uh, but they're getting

2446
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:57,920
replaced. So, uh, new LED lights are

2447
02:06:57,920 --> 02:06:59,760
going up at both high school baseball

2448
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:01,119
fields. We're super excited about that,

2449
02:07:01,119 --> 02:07:02,719
too. But I'll answer any questions you

2450
02:07:02,719 --> 02:07:06,159
have. Thanks for having me. Okay,

2451
02:07:06,159 --> 02:07:07,280
>> Commissioner Wale.

2452
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:08,480
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair and Ben. Thank you

2453
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:11,360
for being here. Um, just it's probably

2454
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:13,199
in the report, and I'll be honest, I may

2455
02:07:13,199 --> 02:07:15,360
have looked over it, but for the flu

2456
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:17,520
shots, is that going to be in process

2457
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:18,400
again this year?

2458
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:20,239
>> Yes. Okay. actually starting up very

2459
02:07:20,239 --> 02:07:20,960
soon. Good.

2460
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,960
>> I think uh I think they're starting this

2461
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:24,000
week as a matter of fact.

2462
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:25,040
>> Thank you. Appreciate it.

2463
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:27,040
>> Yep. At all the schools and then central

2464
02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:28,639
office and everybody. Yep.

2465
02:07:28,639 --> 02:07:33,910
>> Awesome. Thank you,

2466
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:35,199
» Jeff.

2467
02:07:35,199 --> 02:07:38,159
>> No, I was just going to say I appreciate

2468
02:07:38,159 --> 02:07:39,360
you're doing a good job.

2469
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:39,840
>> Thank you.

2470
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,280
>> You know, it you're not one of these

2471
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:42,320
that go out and try to catch the

2472
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:43,840
limelight and everybody wants you to

2473
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,760
slap you on the back. You don't do that

2474
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:47,360
and I appreciate that. you just get the

2475
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:51,119
job done and I see that. Thank you.

2476
02:07:51,119 --> 02:07:51,840
>> Thank you, sir.

2477
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:53,679
>> Thank you.

2478
02:07:53,679 --> 02:07:55,520
>> Okay. The next item is law director's

2479
02:07:55,520 --> 02:08:04,069
report

2480
02:08:04,079 --> 02:08:07,760
items require no explanation. It

2481
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:12,480
contracts contracts contract zoning. Um

2482
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:14,960
there are five pending lawsuits that our

2483
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:16,639
office is handling.

2484
02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:19,679
Uh we're in the process of negotiating a

2485
02:08:19,679 --> 02:08:21,840
settlement hopefully with on the

2486
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:24,880
provision case. No activity with respect

2487
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:27,679
to Harbor versus Anderson County. The

2488
02:08:27,679 --> 02:08:30,639
Williams Manor is coming up in November

2489
02:08:30,639 --> 02:08:33,119
Library Association. I will tell tell

2490
02:08:33,119 --> 02:08:35,679
you guys of course that Anderson County

2491
02:08:35,679 --> 02:08:37,440
is out of that case that you've been

2492
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:39,840
dismissed. It's just the library board.

2493
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,440
And then the Smith versus Anderson

2494
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:46,159
County which was a mandamus claim by

2495
02:08:46,159 --> 02:08:48,800
Brian Smith and his wife was dismissed.

2496
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:51,920
They have appealed it but there is a

2497
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:53,599
companion

2498
02:08:53,599 --> 02:08:55,440
action going in front of the board of

2499
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,760
zoning appeals that may resolve it and

2500
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:59,920
I've talked briefly with their attorney

2501
02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:03,119
Dino Cole about it. Information items,

2502
02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:05,040
you know, there's a lot on there.

2503
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:06,880
Suppose the ones I would point to would

2504
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:10,159
be six indigent cremation. How many of

2505
02:09:10,159 --> 02:09:12,719
you knew that we've got 17 cremated

2506
02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:17,280
remains in our office? Uh we do. So

2507
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:21,119
we're working on some kind of uh

2508
02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:23,840
standard operating procedure for the

2509
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:25,440
next person that comes down the road.

2510
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:27,920
and as far as accounting for the bodies

2511
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:29,360
and how long to keep them and things

2512
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,639
like that. Um

2513
02:09:32,639 --> 02:09:37,599
uh the u general sessions 2ou there was

2514
02:09:37,599 --> 02:09:41,040
a copy of our proposedou attached to my

2515
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:44,639
report. Uh since that came in I have

2516
02:09:44,639 --> 02:09:49,920
received uh a redlined uh reply from uh

2517
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:53,440
Oakidge city attorney. Essentially uh

2518
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:56,719
they have rejected what we proposed to

2519
02:09:56,719 --> 02:10:01,280
them as far as uh reviewing a change in

2520
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,159
the month the yearly amount each year.

2521
02:10:04,159 --> 02:10:08,880
Um I think initially we said at 40,000

2522
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:12,480
um for four years with an option to

2523
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:16,480
renew. uh we wanted to revisit that each

2524
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:19,679
year that they have uh come back with

2525
02:10:19,679 --> 02:10:24,400
50,000 a year and then some minor issues

2526
02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:27,040
with the uh notices and things of that

2527
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,520
nature, but that's the big that's the

2528
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,000
big difference right now.

2529
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,920
Um

2530
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:39,520
the u we are working on items 13 and 14.

2531
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,880
We are working on um

2532
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,280
revising the private act for the legal

2533
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:48,000
services advisory committee. We've also

2534
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,400
been uh or our office has been

2535
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,040
conducting a salary survey to get some

2536
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,199
idea of the parameters of what county

2537
02:10:55,199 --> 02:10:56,960
attorneys or law directors are paid

2538
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:58,800
throughout the state to give the

2539
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,360
committee something to work off of. And

2540
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:03,599
let me let me take this opportunity

2541
02:11:03,599 --> 02:11:06,880
guys. We're open all day every day and

2542
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,599
uh I know a lot of you are new. You are

2543
02:11:09,599 --> 02:11:11,920
welcome to come by anytime. We do ask

2544
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:14,079
that you call first so that you'll know

2545
02:11:14,079 --> 02:11:16,239
we're there. We probably should only

2546
02:11:16,239 --> 02:11:18,000
have one commissioner at a time because

2547
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:20,880
of Toma, but uh we'd be happy to sit

2548
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:24,000
down and go with go over with you any

2549
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:27,040
report, anything in our office. Um

2550
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:31,360
that's why we're there. Um, and then

2551
02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:34,960
finally, um, I guess those were the

2552
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:37,599
three big things. And I don't, you guys

2553
02:11:37,599 --> 02:11:39,199
may have questions about any part of

2554
02:11:39,199 --> 02:11:41,599
this, and I'll be happy to to answer if

2555
02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:46,709
I can.

2556
02:11:46,719 --> 02:11:48,960
» Any questions? Commission.

2557
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,440
>> Yeah, Mr. Chairman, if if you would, I'd

2558
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,199
like to read part of the status of

2559
02:11:53,199 --> 02:11:55,119
cases, fending deadlines. It's real

2560
02:11:55,119 --> 02:11:56,800
important to the people on Old Lake City

2561
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:59,520
Highway in that community. And in one of

2562
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:02,000
these, we just had an a fire there

2563
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,960
that's being investigated by personal uh

2564
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:08,480
for arson. And this is 301 through 347

2565
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,960
Old Lake City Highway. Case was heard in

2566
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:14,719
Chantry Court on July 22nd, 2026 and by

2567
02:12:14,719 --> 02:12:16,560
parties agreement. An order has been

2568
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:19,760
submitted requiring the demolition and

2569
02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:22,639
removal of all mobile homes, salvage

2570
02:12:22,639 --> 02:12:24,800
material, cars, and tractor trailers

2571
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:27,119
located on the property. Pending entry

2572
02:12:27,119 --> 02:12:29,040
by chancellor.5

2573
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:31,760
stick built structures located on the

2574
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:33,040
properties are reserved for an

2575
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:34,800
additional hearing to be termed subject

2576
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,119
to the entry of the courts order and

2577
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:40,719
3708 Lake City Highway. case was heard

2578
02:12:40,719 --> 02:12:43,760
in central court on July 22nd, 2026 by

2579
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:45,840
agreement of parties agreed order

2580
02:12:45,840 --> 02:12:47,280
requiring the mobile home to be

2581
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:49,199
demolished and removed within 60 days of

2582
02:12:49,199 --> 02:12:50,719
the entry of the court's order has been

2583
02:12:50,719 --> 02:12:57,030
submitted. Thank you.

2584
02:12:57,040 --> 02:13:00,320
» Okay, Jamie, we added under your the uh

2585
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,360
addition of the language to

2586
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:05,520
satisfy the flood map thing.

2587
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:08,480
>> Correct. And and simply what that is the

2588
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:11,119
way we commission approved it and we

2589
02:13:11,119 --> 02:13:13,199
submitted it with an exhibit that had

2590
02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:16,400
what's called panel numbers on it. Well,

2591
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:18,960
they didn't like that and that's okay.

2592
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:20,560
They've just asked us to take those

2593
02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:22,960
panel numbers and incorporate them into

2594
02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:25,679
the document that the mayor filed with

2595
02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:27,679
you tonight instead and drop the

2596
02:13:27,679 --> 02:13:30,639
exhibit. It changes nothing. It adds

2597
02:13:30,639 --> 02:13:32,400
nothing. It doesn't take away anything.

2598
02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:34,719
It just transfers the location of those

2599
02:13:34,719 --> 02:13:35,920
panel numbers.

2600
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,800
>> Okay. You need a motion to approve that.

2601
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:41,280
Okay. Is there a motion to approve

2602
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:44,000
language changes? Have a motion and a

2603
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:46,079
second. Any discussion?

2604
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:48,880
>> What's the motion again? Now

2605
02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:52,239
>> to remove the exhibit from the previous

2606
02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:55,679
motion that commission approved

2607
02:13:55,679 --> 02:13:59,280
and insert it manually inside the

2608
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:02,880
agreement. We It was just an attachment.

2609
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:05,520
Uh I passed down.

2610
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:08,077
>> Yeah. Commissioner Wandelle, when the

2611
02:14:08,077 --> 02:14:08,560
[clears throat]

2612
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:09,199
>> I'm sorry.

2613
02:14:09,199 --> 02:14:09,760
>> When the

2614
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:10,400
>> I got you.

2615
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:11,920
>> When it was passed,

2616
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:14,159
>> we uh we did it one way. They didn't

2617
02:14:14,159 --> 02:14:15,760
like it and I understand why they would

2618
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:17,599
want it incorporated into the document

2619
02:14:17,599 --> 02:14:18,159
and we

2620
02:14:18,159 --> 02:14:18,800
>> I'm good.

2621
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:21,199
>> This is a FEMA thing. I swear I was

2622
02:14:21,199 --> 02:14:22,000
unclear. Thank you.

2623
02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:24,560
>> Okay. Any further discussion? If not,

2624
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,079
all in favor of the motion, let me

2625
02:14:26,079 --> 02:14:27,199
saying I. [clears throat]

2626
02:14:27,199 --> 02:14:29,679
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.

2627
02:14:29,679 --> 02:14:32,079
>> Was flock camera. Was that moved to my

2628
02:14:32,079 --> 02:14:32,960
report?

2629
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:33,199
>> Okay.

2630
02:14:33,199 --> 02:14:33,760
>> Yeah,

2631
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,520
>> it was mentioned in your report. I think

2632
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:38,079
we put it under operations. Uh but we

2633
02:14:38,079 --> 02:14:40,000
probably need some explanation from you

2634
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:40,320
on

2635
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:40,800
>> Sure.

2636
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:41,280
>> on that.

2637
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:43,520
>> Well, I don't want you to get hung up on

2638
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:47,119
the phrase flock camera. It's a contract

2639
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:49,920
and the contract did not meet the

2640
02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:51,599
requirements.

2641
02:14:51,599 --> 02:14:54,079
Uh and

2642
02:14:54,079 --> 02:14:57,280
at this point uh it's really

2643
02:14:57,280 --> 02:15:02,000
commission's call. You can take it up

2644
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,159
and ratify it. There there is a

2645
02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:07,440
provision in the law that permits the uh

2646
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:10,400
commission to ratify it. I would caution

2647
02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:12,960
against that without having a a public

2648
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,599
debate about it because of TOMA. You can

2649
02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:18,480
do nothing or you can refer and I think

2650
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:19,840
it would be back to the budget

2651
02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:22,560
committee. And the reason I say that is

2652
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:30,239
it is uh monetary spending and um or or

2653
02:15:30,239 --> 02:15:33,599
the sheriff can rebid it.

2654
02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:35,840
I think those are the four options. But

2655
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:38,320
it has nothing to do with it just has to

2656
02:15:38,320 --> 02:15:40,000
do with the parameters of the contract.

2657
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:42,960
It could be a contract for the uh

2658
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,360
service of widgets for you know it

2659
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:49,440
doesn't matter. It's just it's the um

2660
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:52,400
the way the contract was went forward

2661
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:54,400
and nothing to do with the contents of

2662
02:15:54,400 --> 02:15:56,000
it.

2663
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:58,639
>> Okay. Mr. Wells, you have a motion.

2664
02:15:58,639 --> 02:16:00,079
>> I would make a motion that we push this

2665
02:16:00,079 --> 02:16:02,000
item to the budget agenda for October.

2666
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:05,199
Mr. Chairman

2667
02:16:05,199 --> 02:16:07,679
have a motion and a second. Any

2668
02:16:07,679 --> 02:16:10,560
discussion?

2669
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:12,079
Commissioner Wandell.

2670
02:16:12,079 --> 02:16:14,000
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I I'm going to

2671
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:16,960
vote against this. I think we have a

2672
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:19,440
contract that's not valid. I think we

2673
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:21,040
should terminate the contract. I

2674
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:23,280
understand the need to send it back to

2675
02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:25,199
budget committee. I think we did the

2676
02:16:25,199 --> 02:16:26,960
right thing as operations committee. We

2677
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,599
allowed the public to come speak. Uh

2678
02:16:29,599 --> 02:16:32,160
every person that came spoke against it.

2679
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:35,359
I think as elected uh officials, our job

2680
02:16:35,359 --> 02:16:37,040
is to represent the people of this

2681
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:39,359
county. And I think uh trying to pass

2682
02:16:39,359 --> 02:16:42,160
this through again when it wasn't put

2683
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:44,080
through properly the first the second

2684
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,880
time. Let me rephrase that. And uh we

2685
02:16:46,880 --> 02:16:49,280
don't have a valid contract. That's what

2686
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:51,359
the law director says. So I don't know

2687
02:16:51,359 --> 02:16:53,280
why we'd push it back through the budget

2688
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:55,040
committee and try to make it right. I

2689
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,120
think we should move on. And but I'll

2690
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:58,880
just vote no on this motion. I just

2691
02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:03,830
wanted to give my opinion. Thank you.

2692
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:04,960
» Commission.

2693
02:17:04,960 --> 02:17:06,239
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. from

2694
02:17:06,239 --> 02:17:08,160
[clears throat] that uh special call

2695
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:10,399
meeting that we had. There was some

2696
02:17:10,399 --> 02:17:13,599
questions asked to the flock safety

2697
02:17:13,599 --> 02:17:15,920
representative and I haven't got those

2698
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:17,519
answers yet. So, I'll be voting no on

2699
02:17:17,519 --> 02:17:21,509
this as well.

2700
02:17:21,519 --> 02:17:25,830
» Okay.

2701
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:26,559
» Mayor,

2702
02:17:26,559 --> 02:17:29,200
>> just a question. Um,

2703
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:33,760
so if it's sent to budget committee and

2704
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:36,080
I mean we've been told it's not valid,

2705
02:17:36,080 --> 02:17:38,719
does the law director need to write a

2706
02:17:38,719 --> 02:17:43,040
letter? Is it paused? What's the effect

2707
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:47,120
of being void and we're now aware that

2708
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:50,960
it's void? Do we need to for 30 days

2709
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:53,040
write them that we're pausing the

2710
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:59,349
program or that we're not paying or

2711
02:17:59,359 --> 02:18:01,840
there would be a pause in the program.

2712
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:04,319
uh especially if it's

2713
02:18:04,319 --> 02:18:06,479
I mean I don't know I don't know what

2714
02:18:06,479 --> 02:18:10,479
commission's thinking is if if there's

2715
02:18:10,479 --> 02:18:13,040
some uh if it's going back to the budget

2716
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:16,559
committee to be perhaps reconsidered for

2717
02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:20,399
uh being ratified I think we we we

2718
02:18:20,399 --> 02:18:22,479
notify flock and let them know that but

2719
02:18:22,479 --> 02:18:27,359
if it's uh and you know we'll know after

2720
02:18:27,359 --> 02:18:28,800
we'll kind of know where you're at after

2721
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:31,679
the October budget meeting it's coming.

2722
02:18:31,679 --> 02:18:34,000
If it gets through there, it's coming

2723
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:35,840
ultimately to come back to commission to

2724
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:38,080
vote up or down on.

2725
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:41,910
>> I

2726
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:44,319
I've got a question.

2727
02:18:44,319 --> 02:18:47,760
Uh Robbie, is this a monthly thing? Do

2728
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:49,439
we pay monthly or?

2729
02:18:49,439 --> 02:18:51,359
>> It's annual.

2730
02:18:51,359 --> 02:18:54,639
>> Annual.

2731
02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:56,880
>> And have we paid?

2732
02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:59,280
Currently, we have paid um in April of

2733
02:18:59,280 --> 02:19:00,800
26

2734
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:03,280
and the contract runs from or the PO was

2735
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,479
from de December to December. So, um

2736
02:19:06,479 --> 02:19:15,830
we're paid through December of 26.

2737
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:16,240
» Okay.

2738
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:18,399
>> Is $11,000.

2739
02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:19,920
Commissioner Pack,

2740
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:21,760
>> my concern with this, I know under the

2741
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:23,519
contract they're limited to the license

2742
02:19:23,519 --> 02:19:25,200
plate reader only in the back of the

2743
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:28,639
car, but if that contract is out of

2744
02:19:28,639 --> 02:19:32,080
date, can they do more since they're not

2745
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:34,800
contractually held just to do that

2746
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:36,559
license plate reader? Does that make

2747
02:19:36,559 --> 02:19:39,200
sense? The contract

2748
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,160
is a two-sided thing. If that contract's

2749
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:44,479
out, if it said they just read the

2750
02:19:44,479 --> 02:19:46,800
license plate, but that contract is

2751
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:48,960
expired, do they have the capabilities

2752
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:50,720
of doing more? Because they're not

2753
02:19:50,720 --> 02:19:53,520
contractually held to do less, if that

2754
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:56,800
makes any sense.

2755
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:59,120
I don't even know capable of doing more,

2756
02:19:59,120 --> 02:19:59,760
but

2757
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:01,439
>> no, they're they're not going to do

2758
02:20:01,439 --> 02:20:04,080
that, guys. We don't do gunshot

2759
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:05,840
detection. We don't do we don't grab

2760
02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:09,120
Bluetooth signals. We don't do facial

2761
02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:12,399
recognition. We have LPRs. That's it.

2762
02:20:12,399 --> 02:20:15,040
That's what we do. Um, from from that

2763
02:20:15,040 --> 02:20:17,840
standpoint, I can promise you, for

2764
02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:19,280
example, you have a pest control

2765
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:22,240
business, right? If I pay you just to

2766
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:25,439
come spray for roaches and I and our

2767
02:20:25,439 --> 02:20:26,880
contracts up, are you just going to come

2768
02:20:26,880 --> 02:20:29,280
treat my house for termites, too? Right.

2769
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:31,520
Just because you can. No. So, they're

2770
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:34,319
not going to throw in anything extra.

2771
02:20:34,319 --> 02:20:37,359
Listen, the the original contract this

2772
02:20:37,359 --> 02:20:41,280
body approved with flying colors.

2773
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:43,680
The new mobile camera came out something

2774
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:46,640
that we could physically move ourselves

2775
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:50,560
to uh to move to high crime areas or is

2776
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:52,479
needed, right? Whether it be mounted on

2777
02:20:52,479 --> 02:20:54,800
our speed trailer or whatever the case

2778
02:20:54,800 --> 02:20:57,840
is. We did that

2779
02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:00,000
and the price they gave us we didn't

2780
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:01,520
agree with. We said, "We will pay what

2781
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:03,760
we pay for the first three cameras we

2782
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:05,600
have."

2783
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:07,600
They said, "You do that. We'll give you

2784
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:10,080
that price, but we want the extension."

2785
02:21:10,080 --> 02:21:12,880
We took it to Jay downstairs, the

2786
02:21:12,880 --> 02:21:14,800
contract they sent over. Jay Jagger

2787
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:17,120
looked at it. He blessed it. Said, "Sign

2788
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:18,960
it." Said, "It's just an amendment. You

2789
02:21:18,960 --> 02:21:20,880
don't have to go back commission." So,

2790
02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:22,399
in good faith, we did what the law

2791
02:21:22,399 --> 02:21:24,319
director told us to. I understand

2792
02:21:24,319 --> 02:21:26,960
standing here today, Jay got it wrong.

2793
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:29,600
Okay, I understand that. But Mr. Brooks

2794
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:32,800
is telling us that there is there's a

2795
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:35,359
remedy to this. It can be ratified uh

2796
02:21:35,359 --> 02:21:38,560
starting in budget. Now, I get that that

2797
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:40,880
it's controversial and it's polarizing,

2798
02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:43,359
but we're talking about LPRs, the same

2799
02:21:43,359 --> 02:21:46,080
thing that THP has on the tops of their

2800
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:47,359
cars when they cruise through your

2801
02:21:47,359 --> 02:21:50,240
jurisdictions, through your districts.

2802
02:21:50,240 --> 02:21:51,760
We're talking about four. And we

2803
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:53,280
actually only have two operational

2804
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:55,680
because two have been vandalized.

2805
02:21:55,680 --> 02:21:57,200
And for the commissioners that represent

2806
02:21:57,200 --> 02:21:59,520
these municipalities,

2807
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:01,439
only thing you're doing is handicapping

2808
02:22:01,439 --> 02:22:03,200
the sheriff's office. You're taking ours

2809
02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:05,040
away. Oakidge Police Department, the

2810
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:06,880
Clinton Police Department, Oliver

2811
02:22:06,880 --> 02:22:08,640
Springs, they're going to still have

2812
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:10,319
theirs.

2813
02:22:10,319 --> 02:22:13,120
So th this is not

2814
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:16,960
I I'm and and to to the point of 75

2815
02:22:16,960 --> 02:22:19,680
people and 31 speaking, that's not a big

2816
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,840
enough sample size of a county of 80,000

2817
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,160
people for me to make that decision on.

2818
02:22:24,160 --> 02:22:25,600
I'm telling you, this is an incredible

2819
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:28,800
tool for us and it's simply we're simply

2820
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:30,800
it it is just generates leads. We're not

2821
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:33,760
getting warrants. We cannot pull it up

2822
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:38,080
by race, gender. It is a picture, not a

2823
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:39,600
video. It is the picture of the back of

2824
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,640
a literally no different than what the

2825
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:44,000
deputy does when he's going down the

2826
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:48,230
road and he calls an attack.

2827
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:52,479
ABC123 display on a white Dodge Astro

2828
02:22:52,479 --> 02:22:54,479
van.

2829
02:22:54,479 --> 02:22:56,960
It's the same information, guys. There's

2830
02:22:56,960 --> 02:22:59,840
nothing cryptic to it.

2831
02:22:59,840 --> 02:23:01,840
I ask that you send this to budget and

2832
02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:03,840
let's see if we can get this ratified.

2833
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:06,479
Uh because I think I think that at the

2834
02:23:06,479 --> 02:23:10,080
end of the day, if if if we concede to

2835
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:11,920
the to the what I believe is going to be

2836
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:13,359
the minority, I think if you could get

2837
02:23:13,359 --> 02:23:15,040
this on a ballot, they'll let the voters

2838
02:23:15,040 --> 02:23:17,359
vote, I think I think you would see that

2839
02:23:17,359 --> 02:23:19,760
the bulk of Anderson County would be for

2840
02:23:19,760 --> 02:23:22,479
it. Um and and if we're going to really

2841
02:23:22,479 --> 02:23:25,359
take the position that we're going to

2842
02:23:25,359 --> 02:23:29,600
ban technology or items because the

2843
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:32,560
potential for abuse, like I said at the

2844
02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:34,720
town hall, then get ready just to give

2845
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:36,960
your guns up and while we're at it,

2846
02:23:36,960 --> 02:23:39,200
let's get rid of pain medicine because

2847
02:23:39,200 --> 02:23:41,760
my mom might be on hospice, but she may

2848
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:43,920
have a grandson that may misuse that and

2849
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:47,680
abuse that those opioids. So, I mean, we

2850
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:49,840
cannot live like that and operate like

2851
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:53,040
that. And and I think

2852
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:55,680
what we're all for in law enforcement at

2853
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:58,479
least is we're looking for for stronger

2854
02:23:58,479 --> 02:24:00,319
guidelines. And if if we have an

2855
02:24:00,319 --> 02:24:02,479
officer, particularly an Anderson County

2856
02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:04,240
deputy who's misusing this, they

2857
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:05,920
absolutely ought to be terminated. And I

2858
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:07,520
have zero qualms with them being charged

2859
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:10,640
criminally. They should be if they're

2860
02:24:10,640 --> 02:24:14,000
misusing it. But we got zero evidence of

2861
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:15,600
that. And you're talking about

2862
02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:17,520
approximately 40 cameras between

2863
02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:19,040
municipalities and the sheriff's office.

2864
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:21,439
We have four.

2865
02:24:21,439 --> 02:24:23,040
And at the end of the day, if there's a

2866
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:25,520
critical incident, a case we can't solve

2867
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:28,640
or we can't get to somebody in time,

2868
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:30,640
I will bring the victim and the family

2869
02:24:30,640 --> 02:24:32,560
here to this body and let you guys tell

2870
02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:34,960
them why we didn't have that tool. I

2871
02:24:34,960 --> 02:24:37,520
won't make that phone call because the

2872
02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:40,080
hysteria that's been drumed up over

2873
02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:42,160
flock.

2874
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:45,439
So much of it just simply isn't true. It

2875
02:24:45,439 --> 02:24:48,319
just isn't.

2876
02:24:48,319 --> 02:24:50,080
>> There's a remedy here. You send it back

2877
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:53,270
to budget.

2878
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:55,439
Commissioner Vil. [clears throat]

2879
02:24:55,439 --> 02:24:58,800
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh

2880
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:00,560
since the motion was made by

2881
02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:02,319
Commissioner Wells and thank you for

2882
02:25:02,319 --> 02:25:04,640
that, sir. And it was seconded.

2883
02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:06,399
The motion on the floor was send it back

2884
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:07,760
to budget.

2885
02:25:07,760 --> 02:25:09,040
>> The reason we were going to send it back

2886
02:25:09,040 --> 02:25:10,800
to budget was because the law director

2887
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:12,960
brought to us a concern that dealt with

2888
02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:14,720
the contract of the cameras.

2889
02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:15,359
>> Yes,

2890
02:25:15,359 --> 02:25:16,800
>> that's what the topic of the

2891
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,600
conversation was. We did exactly what

2892
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:22,560
the law director warned us not to do. We

2893
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,120
started talking about the actual cameras

2894
02:25:25,120 --> 02:25:28,479
themselves. Okay? And I get that hot

2895
02:25:28,479 --> 02:25:32,800
button issue. Okay. But please, can we

2896
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:35,280
send this issue to the budget committee?

2897
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:36,960
Let's talk about the issue with this

2898
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:39,600
contract. Let's decide whether or not

2899
02:25:39,600 --> 02:25:42,160
we're what we're going to do about this

2900
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:45,280
contract. There will be a time for this

2901
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:48,000
continuing conversation about are the

2902
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,160
cameras good or are the cameras bad. We

2903
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:51,600
can have that conversation at some

2904
02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:53,280
point.

2905
02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:54,720
That's not what this is about. I think

2906
02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:56,240
we're trying to marry two issues that

2907
02:25:56,240 --> 02:25:58,399
need to be divorced. give you a common

2908
02:25:58,399 --> 02:26:00,479
question.

2909
02:26:00,479 --> 02:26:01,600
>> No, I'm not going to do that.

2910
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,520
>> Commissioner Val, I agree 100% with you,

2911
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:05,439
but the the fact of the matter is they

2912
02:26:05,439 --> 02:26:11,359
can't be separated because if not for

2913
02:26:11,359 --> 02:26:14,000
the the media coverage and all the

2914
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,560
chatter on social media,

2915
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:19,200
you guys would send this back to fix it.

2916
02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:22,080
No questions asked.

2917
02:26:22,080 --> 02:26:24,000
If it were anything else other than

2918
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:26,880
LPRs, it would simply be sent down and

2919
02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:29,280
we'd already been gone tonight.

2920
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:31,359
So, I appreciate the law director. I

2921
02:26:31,359 --> 02:26:32,800
appreciate your words, but at the end of

2922
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:34,800
the day, they are married together.

2923
02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:36,080
They're more than married together.

2924
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:38,640
They're Siamese twins. You can't have

2925
02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:40,479
one without the other.

2926
02:26:40,479 --> 02:26:41,760
>> Commissioner is Bill.

2927
02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:44,160
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for actually

2928
02:26:44,160 --> 02:26:45,439
allowing me to speak on this twice,

2929
02:26:45,439 --> 02:26:47,840
maybe, and I'll do it quick. uh what

2930
02:26:47,840 --> 02:26:51,280
comes into play in what we took up was

2931
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:53,840
the constitutionality

2932
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:57,200
and I think there is an a opinion from

2933
02:26:57,200 --> 02:26:59,200
the state attorney general. Is that

2934
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:00,240
correct? Have you seen that?

2935
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:01,600
>> I've not seen that.

2936
02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:04,960
>> Okay. AG I know he did a interview and

2937
02:27:04,960 --> 02:27:07,520
gave his opinion there and I'm not quite

2938
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:09,359
sure you know I don't know if the mayor

2939
02:27:09,359 --> 02:27:11,840
has that opinion yet or not or but

2940
02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:14,960
anyway he gave his opinion and but he

2941
02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:16,240
thinks it should go to the state

2942
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:18,080
legislature

2943
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:20,800
you know for them to make a decision on

2944
02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:25,840
as well but the uh

2945
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:28,479
like I said and and the sheriff is right

2946
02:27:28,479 --> 02:27:30,319
and we got a great sheriff's department

2947
02:27:30,319 --> 02:27:31,439
we got some of the best inst

2948
02:27:31,439 --> 02:27:33,082
investigators in the country. I

2949
02:27:33,082 --> 02:27:33,920
[clears throat] can tell you because I

2950
02:27:33,920 --> 02:27:36,479
know firsthand. But we're sworn to

2951
02:27:36,479 --> 02:27:38,880
uphold the Constitution and and that's

2952
02:27:38,880 --> 02:27:41,600
where I'm coming from. Thank you.

2953
02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:43,600
>> Commissioner E Caps.

2954
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:46,560
>> My questions again about the policy that

2955
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:50,479
you have in place for how if an officer

2956
02:27:50,479 --> 02:27:54,319
does access the data, what are the what

2957
02:27:54,319 --> 02:27:56,080
are the punish what's the punishment?

2958
02:27:56,080 --> 02:27:58,560
>> So I if we were

2959
02:27:58,560 --> 02:27:59,840
>> Mr. Chairman, I have to call point of

2960
02:27:59,840 --> 02:28:01,439
order. motion on the floor is referred

2961
02:28:01,439 --> 02:28:03,439
to budget and I with all due respect

2962
02:28:03,439 --> 02:28:05,600
commissioner part of this referring it

2963
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:06,800
to budget is so we can deal with the

2964
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:09,200
actual contract at hand. If I'm out of

2965
02:28:09,200 --> 02:28:10,880
line for saying this I assume operations

2966
02:28:10,880 --> 02:28:12,479
can bring up the constitutionality at

2967
02:28:12,479 --> 02:28:14,080
your next operations meeting and we can

2968
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:15,680
discuss both at the full commission. I

2969
02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:16,880
just feel there's going to be redundancy

2970
02:28:16,880 --> 02:28:18,880
next month on the same the same thing.

2971
02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:20,720
So

2972
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:21,040
>> yeah,

2973
02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:22,640
>> I'll get with you.

2974
02:28:22,640 --> 02:28:24,240
>> Well, that that's going to influence how

2975
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:27,439
I vote

2976
02:28:27,439 --> 02:28:30,560
>> to to to your point. Um, I offered that

2977
02:28:30,560 --> 02:28:33,760
night at the town hall,

2978
02:28:33,760 --> 02:28:38,000
um, anyone who wanted it, our policy on

2979
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:41,840
flock, right? I had zero takers. I got

2980
02:28:41,840 --> 02:28:46,000
my first request for our policy

2981
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:47,920
two hours before this meeting started by

2982
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:51,359
someone who wasn't in attendance. They

2983
02:28:51,359 --> 02:28:54,880
just got curious on their own. So that's

2984
02:28:54,880 --> 02:28:57,280
why part of my part of me believes that

2985
02:28:57,280 --> 02:28:59,359
it's it's not the issue that everybody

2986
02:28:59,359 --> 02:29:01,200
says it is because nobody's really doing

2987
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:04,960
homework. They're they're just both

2988
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:09,760
sides are hitting talking points. So but I'll be more than happy to send it

2989
02:29:09,760 --> 02:29:11,040
to you. I'll send it tonight.

2990
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:12,319
>> Commissioner Palmer.

2991
02:29:12,319 --> 02:29:15,439
>> Um so will you take this as a second

2992
02:29:15,439 --> 02:29:17,359
request or do I need to send you an

2993
02:29:17,359 --> 02:29:19,200
email because I would like to have those

2994
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:19,600
policies.

2995
02:29:19,600 --> 02:29:20,960
>> No. Yeah, I'll take it a second request.

2996
02:29:20,960 --> 02:29:23,359
You'll have it. And um the what I wanted

2997
02:29:23,359 --> 02:29:25,680
to point out is when that first contract

2998
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:28,479
was voted upon 12 of us or I guess 11 of

2999
02:29:28,479 --> 02:29:31,439
us were not did not see the contract. So

3000
02:29:31,439 --> 02:29:33,680
I am for sending this to budget because

3001
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:36,560
I want to see the contract and see uh

3002
02:29:36,560 --> 02:29:39,840
what he is that everything that he is

3003
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:41,760
saying is true. Not that I don't believe

3004
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:44,319
you. It's just I want to see it in

3005
02:29:44,319 --> 02:29:45,394
writing and [cough] I will do

3006
02:29:45,394 --> 02:29:47,120
[clears throat] my homework. Thank you.

3007
02:29:47,120 --> 02:29:50,230
>> Okay.

3008
02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:52,000
Okay, I have a motion and a second

3009
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:55,920
to refer to the budget committee the

3010
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:58,080
flock camera

3011
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:01,750
contract.

3012
02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:04,560
Any further discussion? If not, all in

3013
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:05,680
favor of the motion

3014
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:06,479
>> vote, please.

3015
02:30:06,479 --> 02:30:10,283
>> Uh board vote requested.

3016
02:30:10,283 --> 02:30:28,710
[clears throat]

3017
02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:41,110
Motion pass. [clears throat]

3018
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:42,960
» Next items the operation committee.

3019
02:30:42,960 --> 02:30:45,840
Commissioner Iswell. Mr. Chair,

3020
02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:47,280
>> first under the mayor's report,

3021
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:48,800
Commissioner Barry made a motion to

3022
02:30:48,800 --> 02:30:50,960
support the TNCP

3023
02:30:50,960 --> 02:30:52,720
participation. Second by Commissioner

3024
02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:55,200
Pack. Motion passed uh to forward the

3025
02:30:55,200 --> 02:31:01,349
full commission for approval.

3026
02:31:01,359 --> 02:31:04,560
Is there a motion?

3027
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:06,080
Have a motion and a second. Any

3028
02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:08,880
discussion?

3029
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:10,880
If not, I'll in favor of the motion

3030
02:31:10,880 --> 02:31:11,680
saying I.

3031
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:12,160
>> I.

3032
02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:15,840
>> Any oppose? Motion carried.

3033
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:18,080
>> Under strategic planning, Commissioner

3034
02:31:18,080 --> 02:31:20,160
Mo Commissioner Palmer made a motion to

3035
02:31:20,160 --> 02:31:22,720
have a workshop on October 30th from

3036
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:24,960
8:30 to 4:00 at the Anders County

3037
02:31:24,960 --> 02:31:27,040
Chamber of Commerce. Motion passes

3038
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:31,280
forward full commission for approval.

3039
02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:33,760
>> Have a motion and second.

3040
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:35,920
Any discussion?

3041
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:37,520
If not, all in favor of the motion, let

3042
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:39,359
me know saying I.

3043
02:31:39,359 --> 02:31:42,720
>> Any opposed? Motion carried. Anders

3044
02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:44,880
County 2027 holiday schedule.

3045
02:31:44,880 --> 02:31:46,240
Commissioner Vin made a motion to

3046
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:48,560
approve the 2027 holiday schedule.

3047
02:31:48,560 --> 02:31:50,800
Seconded by Commissioner E. Capshaw.

3048
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:52,560
Motion passed forward to full commission

3049
02:31:52,560 --> 02:31:57,429
for approval.

3050
02:31:57,439 --> 02:31:59,280
» Have a motion and second. Any

3051
02:31:59,280 --> 02:32:01,359
discussion?

3052
02:32:01,359 --> 02:32:03,359
If not, all in favor of the motion

3053
02:32:03,359 --> 02:32:04,800
saying I. I.

3054
02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:08,000
>> Any opposed? Motion carry.

3055
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:09,840
>> That concludes all the action items of

3056
02:32:09,840 --> 02:32:14,150
the operations committee report.

3057
02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:16,399
Okay, next item is the road committee.

3058
02:32:16,399 --> 02:32:19,280
Commissioner Evony Capsaw.

3059
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:21,359
>> Ro committee was called to order. Um at

3060
02:32:21,359 --> 02:32:23,040
407.

3061
02:32:23,040 --> 02:32:25,439
Um we did have a I did want to highlight

3062
02:32:25,439 --> 02:32:28,240
we did have a citizen uh Miss Jordan who

3063
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:30,399
wanted to thank the road superintendent

3064
02:32:30,399 --> 02:32:32,240
and highway department for their good

3065
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:34,240
work performed on Bank and Spring Bacon

3066
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:37,520
Springs Road and Key Springs Road. Um

3067
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:39,280
Commissioner action items. Commissioner

3068
02:32:39,280 --> 02:32:40,800
Wandell made a motion to pass speed

3069
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:44,240
limits for Philips Frill Frills Road 20

3070
02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:47,040
mph, Strawberry Lane 25 miles per hour,

3071
02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:49,120
Mike Miller Lane 20 miles hour.

3072
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:52,399
Commissioner Ispel seconded motion. Um,

3073
02:32:52,399 --> 02:32:55,040
make a motion to approve. It's the only

3074
02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:57,520
action item.

3075
02:32:57,520 --> 02:32:59,600
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

3076
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:02,240
discussion? Commissioner Palmer. Um just

3077
02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:05,280
a clarification, do we approve the

3078
02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:07,920
minutes of committees

3079
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:10,080
or do we just approve the action items

3080
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:10,479
that are

3081
02:33:10,479 --> 02:33:11,680
>> just the action items?

3082
02:33:11,680 --> 02:33:13,840
>> Okay, so the motion would be just to

3083
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:16,720
approve the uh speed limits for

3084
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:19,200
Strawberry Lane, Mike Miller, and the

3085
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:20,800
other ones. Correct.

3086
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:21,359
>> Yes.

3087
02:33:21,359 --> 02:33:24,640
>> Okay. So, can is that the motion on the

3088
02:33:24,640 --> 02:33:25,840
floor?

3089
02:33:25,840 --> 02:33:28,479
>> Yes. Okay.

3090
02:33:28,479 --> 02:33:31,840
>> Thank you, Chad. That second. Okay. Any

3091
02:33:31,840 --> 02:33:34,160
discussion? If not, all in favor of the

3092
02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:35,760
motion by saying I.

3093
02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:36,240
>> I.

3094
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:41,110
>> Any oppose? Motion carry.

3095
02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:43,120
Next item. Fire commission. Commissioner

3096
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:44,240
Wandelle.

3097
02:33:44,240 --> 02:33:45,920
>> Mr. Chairman. Uh, we didn't meet last

3098
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:47,359
month, but I have the minutes here

3099
02:33:47,359 --> 02:33:50,160
before me for July. I believe it is, or

3100
02:33:50,160 --> 02:33:52,080
maybe it's August, it looks like. Uh,

3101
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:53,920
the only action item I guess that was on

3102
02:33:53,920 --> 02:33:55,760
there was a motion to make Josh Lane

3103
02:33:55,760 --> 02:33:58,160
primary representative and Tim Roach

3104
02:33:58,160 --> 02:34:00,640
secondary representative for E911

3105
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:03,120
Advisory Group. Made by Dusty Sharp,

3106
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:10,469
seconded by Tyler Kick.

3107
02:34:10,479 --> 02:34:13,200
» Is we need to take action on that?

3108
02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:13,920
>> I don't know.

3109
02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:14,640
>> I don't think so.

3110
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:17,040
It's just committee.

3111
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:18,319
>> It's just

3112
02:34:18,319 --> 02:34:19,760
>> But that's all I have. We will be

3113
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:22,560
meeting uh coming up this month. Uh I

3114
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:23,520
don't have the date in front of me.

3115
02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:27,520
Usually first Tuesday I believe it is.

3116
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:29,680
>> Okay. Was the fire fire commission was

3117
02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:32,479
there any vacancies on that committee?

3118
02:34:32,479 --> 02:34:35,520
>> Yeah. Tim took it.

3119
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:38,080
>> Okay. Okay.

3120
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:39,520
>> Okay. Next item.

3121
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:41,840
>> Served on it for years and then came

3122
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:43,280
away.

3123
02:34:43,280 --> 02:34:46,720
>> Next item is any unfinished business.

3124
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:50,080
>> Yep. Under new business. We have the

3125
02:34:50,080 --> 02:34:52,399
finance committee.

3126
02:34:52,399 --> 02:34:54,160
>> Yeah.

3127
02:34:54,160 --> 02:34:55,600
>> No unfinished business.

3128
02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:57,200
>> Yeah.

3129
02:34:57,200 --> 02:34:58,399
>> Oh, that's what I was.

3130
02:34:58,399 --> 02:35:01,760
>> Okay. Okay. Under new business, finance

3131
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:06,080
committee appointment of

3132
02:35:06,080 --> 02:35:07,840
>> in front of us, whoever who's on there

3133
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:10,800
now. And and my question would be, is

3134
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:12,240
there another sitting commissioner that

3135
02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:15,680
would like to have that spot?

3136
02:35:15,680 --> 02:35:17,600
>> Mr.

3137
02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:19,920
I know Denise and I had spoken earlier

3138
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:23,359
about um that would not be on this

3139
02:35:23,359 --> 02:35:25,439
agenda. There's a public notice going

3140
02:35:25,439 --> 02:35:27,920
out running the courier on the 30th

3141
02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:30,399
since Bill Jagger did put his name in.

3142
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:32,319
The deadline for applications is October

3143
02:35:32,319 --> 02:35:39,670
the 9th. So that'll be on next month.

3144
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:50,150
» We didn't lose anybody offer

3145
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:51,760
So will this be an addition?

3146
02:35:51,760 --> 02:35:53,200
>> It will be an addition. So I guess if

3147
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:54,800
you any other citizens

3148
02:35:54,800 --> 02:36:00,550
>> chairman

3149
02:36:00,560 --> 02:36:02,319
» there are four openings because all

3150
02:36:02,319 --> 02:36:03,760
commissioner seats are open.

3151
02:36:03,760 --> 02:36:04,240
>> Okay.

3152
02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:06,479
>> So the the only ones that are statute is

3153
02:36:06,479 --> 02:36:10,080
the mayor, the director of schools and

3154
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:13,439
the highway the other four positions. We

3155
02:36:13,439 --> 02:36:14,960
had it on the agenda for September 1st.

3156
02:36:14,960 --> 02:36:16,479
We didn't take action on them because we

3157
02:36:16,479 --> 02:36:18,880
were going to do it tonight and then so

3158
02:36:18,880 --> 02:36:21,280
all four positions are open. I don't

3159
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:23,120
remember who all applied but then we did

3160
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:24,880
not take action on it because we had a

3161
02:36:24,880 --> 02:36:26,160
member from the community that wanted to

3162
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:37,510
apply.

3163
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:38,960
Guess I've got the floor. I was going to

3164
02:36:38,960 --> 02:36:42,240
make a motion that we um nominate Phil

3165
02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:44,080
Jagger to the finance committee. I'm

3166
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:45,920
happy to take reference from Mr. Brooks

3167
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:48,240
or Mr. Chairman on if we should delay

3168
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:50,319
this a month, allow the the public input

3169
02:36:50,319 --> 02:36:52,800
or

3170
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:54,319
you were going to second. So, I'll defer

3171
02:36:54,319 --> 02:36:56,399
Mr. Commissioner Wandelle.

3172
02:36:56,399 --> 02:36:59,520
>> Well, well, I think based on if it's out

3173
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:01,280
been put out in the paper, we have to

3174
02:37:01,280 --> 02:37:03,520
wait till October. We can't just appoint

3175
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:04,240
him.

3176
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:05,680
>> So, I'll I'll remove my

3177
02:37:05,680 --> 02:37:06,080
>> Yeah.

3178
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:07,120
>> my motion from the floor.

3179
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:09,280
>> And I'll I didn't know that, but I I'll

3180
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:12,080
remove mine, too, Mr. Chairman.

3181
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:14,319
>> Chairman Mckame. Um, if I could add to

3182
02:37:14,319 --> 02:37:16,080
the the finance committee is made up of,

3183
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:18,080
like you, Commissioner Foster said, the

3184
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:19,600
mayor, the road superintendent, and the

3185
02:37:19,600 --> 02:37:20,880
school superintendent are three

3186
02:37:20,880 --> 02:37:23,120
permanent members. The other four

3187
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:24,960
members do not have to be from the

3188
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:26,479
commission body. They can be citizens.

3189
02:37:26,479 --> 02:37:30,240
We've never had one

3190
02:37:30,240 --> 02:37:33,520
want to serve, but since Commissioner J,

3191
02:37:33,520 --> 02:37:35,200
former Commissioner Joerger asked to

3192
02:37:35,200 --> 02:37:37,120
serve, then I feel like we they should

3193
02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:39,120
public notice and off, you know, so

3194
02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:42,240
other citizens can have the opportunity

3195
02:37:42,240 --> 02:37:44,560
as well. If um they would like

3196
02:37:44,560 --> 02:37:46,640
>> I'm on I'm on it, aren't I?

3197
02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:46,880
>> Yeah,

3198
02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:49,040
>> you are. Yes.

3199
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:51,200
>> Currently, it's Commissioner Wandelle,

3200
02:37:51,200 --> 02:37:52,479
Commissioner Isabel, Commissioner

3201
02:37:52,479 --> 02:37:54,640
Foster, and Commissioner Palmer, and the

3202
02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:57,760
three permanent members. So that's why I

3203
02:37:57,760 --> 02:37:59,200
none of the commissioners that were on

3204
02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:01,040
the finance committee lost the election.

3205
02:38:01,040 --> 02:38:02,399
So that's why I said there was no

3206
02:38:02,399 --> 02:38:04,560
openings. But I understand that each

3207
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:07,280
year, but we do have a citizen now that

3208
02:38:07,280 --> 02:38:08,960
wants to be on the committee and that is

3209
02:38:08,960 --> 02:38:11,439
an allowable under the 81 law

3210
02:38:11,439 --> 02:38:12,160
>> that is allowed.

3211
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:13,920
>> It is all four positions could be

3212
02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:16,319
citizens. Doesn't have to be commission.

3213
02:38:16,319 --> 02:38:18,479
>> So I just wanted to clarify that.

3214
02:38:18,479 --> 02:38:21,760
>> Okay. Were the previous members

3215
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:24,800
have a term or was their term up or

3216
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:26,240
>> Well, I think we took this up a year

3217
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:28,080
ago. So, we are we doing this each year,

3218
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:28,960
Mike?

3219
02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:31,040
>> Every position on committees are a

3220
02:38:31,040 --> 02:38:32,640
one-year term. There are no terms.

3221
02:38:32,640 --> 02:38:35,280
They're just every September 1st, we

3222
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:37,600
have to pick new committees.

3223
02:38:37,600 --> 02:38:41,910
That's what our rules say.

3224
02:38:41,920 --> 02:38:44,080
» And that's what we did on September 1st

3225
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:46,080
except for finance. And then I think

3226
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:47,280
there was one other one that we didn't

3227
02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:49,040
have enough but I think we end up

3228
02:38:49,040 --> 02:38:51,280
filling it.

3229
02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:53,359
>> Okay. So what you're saying now then is

3230
02:38:53,359 --> 02:38:57,359
that we have four opens on finance

3231
02:38:57,359 --> 02:38:58,640
committee.

3232
02:38:58,640 --> 02:39:01,920
>> There are four positions that are

3233
02:39:01,920 --> 02:39:04,000
available to be picked from.

3234
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:06,080
>> Okay. Three are statutory that cannot

3235
02:39:06,080 --> 02:39:07,600
they have to be a certain position. the

3236
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:09,200
other four. You know, traditionally,

3237
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:10,160
like I said, it's been four

3238
02:39:10,160 --> 02:39:12,399
commissioners since we, you know, since

3239
02:39:12,399 --> 02:39:13,600
the committee was put together, but it

3240
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:14,960
doesn't have to be. And we've never had

3241
02:39:14,960 --> 02:39:17,439
somebody from the public be interested.

3242
02:39:17,439 --> 02:39:21,280
>> So, it's being advertised

3243
02:39:21,280 --> 02:39:22,960
9:30.

3244
02:39:22,960 --> 02:39:25,120
Deadline for applications is October the

3245
02:39:25,120 --> 02:39:26,160
9th.

3246
02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:28,319
>> Okay.

3247
02:39:28,319 --> 02:39:30,560
So, there's no action to be taken.

3248
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:32,880
>> Mr. Mr. Chair, I just say that the

3249
02:39:32,880 --> 02:39:34,000
finance [clears throat] committee wasn't

3250
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:36,240
meeting until October anyway. So, there

3251
02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:40,000
was plenty of time to put them put this

3252
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:42,479
committee in place before

3253
02:39:42,479 --> 02:39:44,960
um before they met. [clears throat]

3254
02:39:44,960 --> 02:39:47,439
>> So, Commissioner Wells, I we've got it

3255
02:39:47,439 --> 02:39:48,960
on the agenda, so we need somebody you

3256
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:51,280
want to defer it October. I'll

3257
02:39:51,280 --> 02:39:58,950
>> make a move. I'll second

3258
02:39:58,960 --> 02:40:05,429
» have. Excuse me. Motion to defer.

3259
02:40:05,439 --> 02:40:08,790
Any discussion?

3260
02:40:08,800 --> 02:40:10,560
All in favor say I.

3261
02:40:10,560 --> 02:40:10,960
>> I.

3262
02:40:10,960 --> 02:40:12,891
>> Any opposed?

3263
02:40:12,891 --> 02:40:15,359
[clears throat] Motion carried.

3264
02:40:15,359 --> 02:40:17,760
Any announcements,

3265
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:18,000
Mr.

3266
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:21,670
>> Chairman.

3267
02:40:21,680 --> 02:40:24,560
I got two and I got a question

3268
02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:27,600
about the minutes and

3269
02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:30,800
like say fire commission minutes instead

3270
02:40:30,800 --> 02:40:34,800
of waiting till 30 days from then if we

3271
02:40:34,800 --> 02:40:36,319
took the minutes of the meeting,

3272
02:40:36,319 --> 02:40:37,600
somebody took the minutes of the

3273
02:40:37,600 --> 02:40:39,359
meeting, could those be voted on at the

3274
02:40:39,359 --> 02:40:41,200
end of the meeting so they could be go

3275
02:40:41,200 --> 02:40:43,840
ahead and submitted for our next full

3276
02:40:43,840 --> 02:40:45,840
county commission meeting or do we

3277
02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:48,240
always have to wait 30 days? Because to

3278
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:50,160
me, if you're doing the minutes and all

3279
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:52,720
those people are present, it's going to

3280
02:40:52,720 --> 02:40:54,240
be fresh on their mind and they can

3281
02:40:54,240 --> 02:40:57,920
either accept or decline. But I was just

3282
02:40:57,920 --> 02:41:03,030
wondering if we could do that.

3283
02:41:03,040 --> 02:41:06,399
» I just Sorry. I don't think and I I'll

3284
02:41:06,399 --> 02:41:08,160
lead to law director. I don't think

3285
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:09,520
they're not written meetings you're

3286
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:11,200
approving. like unless somebody's

3287
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:15,520
writing them then like I just don't know

3288
02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:17,280
that that [clears throat]

3289
02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:18,960
word for word checking them that kind of

3290
02:41:18,960 --> 02:41:21,439
thing no time to review then it's like

3291
02:41:21,439 --> 02:41:23,600
do that to be added to the agenda to be

3292
02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:25,520
approved that's would be my question I

3293
02:41:25,520 --> 02:41:25,920
just

3294
02:41:25,920 --> 02:41:27,840
>> yeah well where I'm coming from

3295
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:29,760
>> I was going to get one of those AI

3296
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:31,040
>> because everybody's doing it I'm going

3297
02:41:31,040 --> 02:41:32,880
to learn how to use it

3298
02:41:32,880 --> 02:41:35,359
>> uh anyway they do the minutes

3299
02:41:35,359 --> 02:41:37,520
>> for you and you could read them and you

3300
02:41:37,520 --> 02:41:39,920
could approve them because what happens

3301
02:41:39,920 --> 02:41:42,080
is sometimes if you wait 30 days those

3302
02:41:42,080 --> 02:41:44,000
same people are not at the meeting

3303
02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:46,080
>> and then some people was there and and

3304
02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:47,760
you know I feel like if I'm not at the

3305
02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:49,120
meeting I have to abstain because I

3306
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:51,040
don't know what was talked about but I

3307
02:41:51,040 --> 02:41:52,720
was just asking a question if we could

3308
02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:54,080
do that

3309
02:41:54,080 --> 02:41:56,560
>> law director you got an opinion on this

3310
02:41:56,560 --> 02:41:59,120
>> not tonight but I mean I don't I mean

3311
02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:01,040
just just the accuracy would be the

3312
02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:02,640
concern. Um

3313
02:42:02,640 --> 02:42:04,319
>> I I think it'd be more accurate if you

3314
02:42:04,319 --> 02:42:05,840
do it right then because everybody said,

3315
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:07,200
"Yeah, you're right. That's what we

3316
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:09,280
said." Then waiting 30 days. But that's

3317
02:42:09,280 --> 02:42:14,389
just my opinion.

3318
02:42:14,399 --> 02:42:16,720
» I I think Mr. Chairman like if you look

3319
02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:18,640
at operations committee for instance,

3320
02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:21,600
that is a subcommittee of commission

3321
02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:23,280
then

3322
02:42:23,280 --> 02:42:25,280
you know that's an action that's coming

3323
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:28,160
before you. But for instance,

3324
02:42:28,160 --> 02:42:30,800
let's take our animal advisory group

3325
02:42:30,800 --> 02:42:33,600
that has citizens on there, other

3326
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:37,040
members and that committee is required

3327
02:42:37,040 --> 02:42:40,319
to approve its own minutes and that's

3328
02:42:40,319 --> 02:42:43,280
why you have to wait why you wait till

3329
02:42:43,280 --> 02:42:49,040
they approve it and then it comes and appears. So I probably I mean there

3330
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:50,800
might be a way just to we'd have to

3331
02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:53,439
break it down by committee to to see

3332
02:42:53,439 --> 02:42:55,520
exactly which ones that we're talking

3333
02:42:55,520 --> 02:42:56,000
about.

3334
02:42:56,000 --> 02:42:58,080
>> Yeah. I I know sometimes that you know

3335
02:42:58,080 --> 02:43:00,160
it just delays things by having to wait

3336
02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:03,200
30 days or whatever. But it was just a

3337
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:05,120
thought and then I wanted to say that I

3338
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:07,920
support my fellow commissioner bow on

3339
02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:11,439
the library board. I mean he tries hard.

3340
02:43:11,439 --> 02:43:14,479
uh he he takes a lot of grief from

3341
02:43:14,479 --> 02:43:17,359
people but he's doing the best that he

3342
02:43:17,359 --> 02:43:20,389
can.

3343
02:43:20,399 --> 02:43:22,160
I I was just going to add that's what I

3344
02:43:22,160 --> 02:43:23,520
was going to say about the minutes as

3345
02:43:23,520 --> 02:43:27,120
well plus it also you know they have to

3346
02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:29,920
approve it at the beginning the minutes

3347
02:43:29,920 --> 02:43:32,160
from last time if there's action items

3348
02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:34,080
the action items would come to the

3349
02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:37,120
regular agenda immediately but the

3350
02:43:37,120 --> 02:43:41,520
minutes would be would would I mean we

3351
02:43:41,520 --> 02:43:43,600
would be approving it as a body before

3352
02:43:43,600 --> 02:43:45,359
the committee itself approved their

3353
02:43:45,359 --> 02:43:59,190
minutes if we did it that Okay.

3354
02:43:59,200 --> 02:44:00,160
» I have one. Okay.

3355
02:44:00,160 --> 02:44:02,160
>> We have the um [clears throat]

3356
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,960
the antique festival, Michael.

3357
02:44:04,960 --> 02:44:07,520
>> The first weekend in October, it's

3358
02:44:07,520 --> 02:44:09,439
downtown Clinton, the second and the

3359
02:44:09,439 --> 02:44:12,800
third, and it is a really big a big

3360
02:44:12,800 --> 02:44:14,479
deal. We've got lots of good

3361
02:44:14,479 --> 02:44:16,800
entertainment, lots of good shopping.

3362
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:18,880
So, come on down to Clinton on October

3363
02:44:18,880 --> 02:44:21,600
the 2nd and 3rd. And also wanted to let

3364
02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:24,560
you guys know that on that Saturday um

3365
02:44:24,560 --> 02:44:28,800
the 3 at 8:30 that morning before the

3366
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:30,720
festival, there will be we will be

3367
02:44:30,720 --> 02:44:33,200
having our fifth annual prayer walk for

3368
02:44:33,200 --> 02:44:36,240
Anderson County. Every year it grows and

3369
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:39,439
so um come on down even a little earlier

3370
02:44:39,439 --> 02:44:43,279
for the prayer walk. Thank you. Anything

3371
02:44:43,279 --> 02:44:46,309
else?

3372
02:44:46,319 --> 02:44:50,040
Clarice speak adjourned.