[0:00] >> the time is six o'clock and 10 seconds,
[0:05] so we will go ahead and get this meeting of the angleton city council to order. We do have a quorum present.
[0:11] all are accounted for. Thank you all for being in attendance tonight. We have some great things to celebrate and a lot of things to deliberate.
[0:19] I guess we'll move right onto the pledge and the invocation.
[0:23] can you please stand and remain standing for the pledge and then the invocation after?
[0:41] >>
[0:46] >> [inaudible] father, again, we come to you to thank you always for your mercy and your goodness.
[0:51] father thank you for being there at all times when we can call on you.
[0:57] you hear us, we thank you for your love.
[1:01] thank you for our city, for those who lead us
[1:06] and work for us here in the city staff and throughout,
[1:11] bless them, keep them safe. We ask you tonight lord for your guidance,
[1:16] your wisdom as we make decisions, father may they be first favorable to you and favorable to people we serve.
[1:27] we love you. In christ name, we pray. Amen >> amen.
[1:38] >> we do know that there's a lot of people in the city that are dealing with the power outage this evening,
[1:43] so let's hopefully help our neighbors if they need to be cooled down or need water,
[1:48] or anything else till their power gets back. Citizens wishing to address council?
[1:53] I have two. I'll mention in the order I received them. First is bill burton, [inaudible] laura loop,
[2:00] would you like to talk about general comment?
[2:05] >> hello, everyone. My name is bill burton. I'm the president of the property owners association and the angleton heritage court.
[2:12] I know that the agenda tonight doesn't include concerts in the park,
[2:17] or I don't even think it's been presented to you all or the board parks either.
[2:23] but I wanted to bring some light on this to get some attention on it. I received an email from martha eighme on may 31st,
[2:33] the director of communications for the city to issue a survey to
[2:38] the residents in my area to see if they were interested in having those concerts moved to that venue.
[2:43] I immediately started getting emails and phone calls about upset people that don't want
[2:49] that kind of noise and crowd and all the things that go along with those larger concerts in our area.
[2:56] some of the homes in our subdivision are less than 300 feet from what would be the stage,
[3:02] that's less than a football field minus the end zones; it's really, really close.
[3:07] it's not far enough away to have 36-inch speakers,
[3:13] amplifiers, and mixing boards for three and four-piece bands that are just really loud.
[3:19] it's a heavily populated area for that kind of activity.
[3:23] the distance between veterans park and lakeside park is,
[3:28] according to google, is 1.27 miles. Occasionally, over the last couple of years,
[3:34] we've been able to hear noise from the concerts on friday nights from veterans park as it is now.
[3:39] I can only imagine how loud it would be that close to our homes.
[3:45] people who would be most affected would include infants,
[3:49] small children, and elderly, and it doesn't matter what time of day or what day of the week it is,
[3:54] those people will be assaulted by the sound because they're so close.
[3:59] extreme noise from live bands would also have an effect on family pets and livestock that's close in the area.
[4:07] I've started talking to some of the neighboring communities in our area,
[4:13] and we discovered that one of the homeowners that's near
[4:17] the veterans park just was included in an article in the fax, becky briant,
[4:23] and she talked with her neighbors in that area, and they collectively cited that there's trash all over the neighborhoods,
[4:29] driveways and yards are being blocked by cars, there's excessive noise, and the one thing that really stuck out to me was
[4:34] intoxicated concertgoers walking through their neighborhoods.
[4:39] I also received a letter when we collected petitions from breck koelemay,
[4:45] who's the head of the christian school, and he's quite concerned about it as well.
[4:49] they don't want parking on their grounds because of the damage that it could cause people parking
[4:54] in the grass and other areas from the concertgoers tearing up their activity areas.
[5:00] they're concerned about trash being left by the concertgoers,
[5:05] as well as the stress it would cause to the residents in the area. Another concern our communities harbor is even more concert
[5:12] and large crowd events being added to lakeside park at a later time. This will just further erode the erosion of peace and quiet
[5:19] the citizens of angleton have a right to in their own homes. Lakeside park is not suited for a large venue concert like free concerts in the park.
[5:27] on behalf of heritage court, heritage oaks, and the surrounding communities,
[5:31] I urge you to define or pursue another location for these large events
[5:36] because this heavily populated area that we live in is just too small. Thank you for your time.
[5:42] >> thank you. >> thank you.
[5:47] >> can I leave these petitions with you? >> you alluded to it, so I'll go ahead and caller her now. Becky briant. [laughter]
[5:55] >> thank you, council.
[6:00] I'd just like to reiterate my concerns from the last meeting that I spoke about the concerts at veterans park,
[6:07] the loud noise, vehicles parking in residential areas, blocking driveways, parking on grassy areas in front of homes,
[6:14] and our very important issues, and additionally, the loud people wandering through the neighborhoods,
[6:19] back to their cars that are parked in the residential areas that could possibly have been drinking alcohol,
[6:25] and then getting in the cars and driving off. Some residents near veterans park are
[6:29] about 400 feet from the stage and the stages facing their homes. There's also a resident next door to the bridge church on
[6:36] magnolia street that's about 158 feet from veterans park. The residents are tired of it.
[6:41] our neighborhood consists of a mixture of elderly people, middle-aged individuals, young families with newborns,
[6:48] and young children, and young adults. I had recently heard that the city was considering moving the concerts to lakeside park.
[6:55] it's important to note that we do not want to pit neighborhoods against each other.
[7:01] both the neighborhoods close to veterans park and those near lakeside park agree that we do not want the concerts in our backyards,
[7:08] we do not want them in our neighborhoods. We are united in this concern and are asking the city council for
[7:13] a solution that respects both of our neighborhoods needs. Thank you for your time.
[7:18] >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that's all I have. Michelle,
[7:23] did you receive any additional? >> no, I didn't. >> all right. Thank you all for speaking.
[7:30] of course, we can't take any action, but it has been noted. Moving on to ceremonial presentations.
[7:36] item number 1, presentation of the angleton exchange club officer of the year. Council, would you like to come forward,
[7:42] please, to the front?
[7:56] >> good evening, mayor and council. On behalf of the angleton exchange club,
[8:01] my name is breah knape, and I am president of the exchange club this year. We would like to recognize corporal cobos and
[8:07] officer kevin ramirez for their heroic actions on june 24th, 2023.
[8:13] both of these officers have been recognized by the exchange club texas,
[8:17] louisiana gulf coast district at our 59th annual crime prevention luncheon in april,
[8:22] and we just wanted to take the opportunity to recognize them here at home tonight, and we'll be presenting them with
[8:28] national exchange club officer of the year medals for them. If you guys want to join us up at the front,
[8:33] and I believe corporal cobos's family is here, if we could take a picture, let them take a picture too.
[8:39] [applause].
[9:00] >> thank you. >> thank you, council. >> congratulations. [background] [laughter]
[9:08] >> chief, would you like to say anything? [laughter]
[9:15] >> I'm proud of the guys. I can't go without them. I would love to talk when I talk about our team and the folks that protect the citizens,
[9:26] I can talk all day about them. These guys made me so proud.
[9:31] there's a young lady that's living today because of them,
[9:35] I told everybody at the exchange because it was like a hollywood movie. If you saw it, not on channel 11,
[9:42] but if you saw it, it was everything. The power lines were down, the car was burning,
[9:48] the grass was burning, and these guys went right in there. Proud to have you.
[9:54] >> thank you, chief. [applause]
[10:13] >> thank you. >> thank you. [background]
[10:21] >> item number 2, presentation of employee service awards. >> good evening, mayor and council.
[10:26] tonight, we recognize two employees, the assistant marketing and communications assistant,
[10:36] courtney landers for five years of service. [applause].
[10:57] >> I'm going to edit this later for [inaudible] [laughter]
[11:06] >> next, we recognize kyle reynolds, assistant director of development services for 10 years of service.
[11:13] [applause]
[11:19] >> thanks, tom. >> [background] >> thank you.
[11:23] >> yes. [inaudible], I think. Thanks.
[11:32] >> thank you. >> then the last young man couldn't be here tonight, but he is a luke ron,
[11:36] and he works at the recreation center. He's been here five years. [applause]
[12:04] >> we're flying through this agenda. Consent agenda. Item number 3, discussion of possible action on continuing
[12:10] the participation in the missouri county community development block grant, also known as cdbg and home program for
[12:17] federal fiscal year 2025 2027 by cooperative agreement.
[12:22] item number 4, discussion of possible action to approve resolution number 20240611-004,
[12:28] accepting a grant award and designating authorized signatories for contractual documents and documents for requesting
[12:36] funds pertaining to the journal land office community development block grant mitigation supplemental program
[12:43] and providing that this resolution shall become effective from and after its passage. Council?
[12:49] >> I make a motion to approve the consent agenda.
[12:54] >> second. >> I have a motion by mayor pro tem, townsend, second by councilman roberts for approval. Any further discussion?
[13:02] >> [inaudible], do we have any idea what projects these two are going to be for. [overlapping]
[13:09] >> the first one is we're going to use for sewer, so it has to be low to moderate income.
[13:15] >> okay. >> I think we're doing what station, abe?
[13:19] >> 27. >> 25. >> 27? >> 25 shanks road area. >> yes, sir. Then the second one is
[13:26] the glo grant that allows us to do the comprehensive master plan,
[13:32] so it's a fully funded piece and we've got on line.
[13:37] >> thank you. >> any further discussion? Call for the vote.
[13:42] all those in favor signify comply by saying aye. >> aye. >> all those opposed, same sign.
[13:46] motion carries. Now we're going move to public hearings and action items. Item number 5, conduct a public hearing discussion and possible action to
[13:53] approve ordinance number 20240611-005, a specific use permit for approximately 0.23 acres of land currently zoned cg,
[14:03] commercial general district, allowing for cosmetic tattoo studio use at 105 east wilkins street,
[14:10] legally described as a0380jee j valderos tract 99c,
[14:19] acres 0.23 angleton missouri county, texas.
[14:24] >> good evening, mayor and council. This is a public hearing as well as an action item
[14:29] based on an ordinance that would cause this property, which is currently zoned commercial general,
[14:35] to have an overlay of a sup, specific use permit.
[14:39] it's basically for a temporary cosmetic type tattoo used for the premises.
[14:45] they would be located at this particular address. As I stated, the zoning,
[14:51] went before the planning commission on june 6, in which they unanimously recommended approval of the use.
[14:57] we have notified everyone within 200 feet of the property and it was duly posted in terms of the agenda,
[15:04] posting legal advertisement requirements. There's no issues. It's been recommended positively by
[15:11] the planing commission and staff based on conditions that they satisfy the licensing requirements with the state
[15:18] and receive proper occupancy permit through the department. This is a public hearing. Thank you.
[15:24] >> council, do I have a motion to open the public hearing. >> [inaudible].
[15:29] >> motion by councilwoman daniel, second by councilman booth to open the public hearing.
[15:36] all those in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> all those opposed, same sign.
[15:41] motion carries. We are now in a public hearing. Anyone in the audience wishing to speak on or for against this item,
[15:46] please approach the podium and tell us if you're for or against it.
[16:01] >> hi. My name is meghan ward. I'm actually the cosmetic tattooer.
[16:07] I'm here to answer any questions if anyone's not sure about what services I offer and
[16:12] how it varies from a traditional body tattoo shop, which I am not.
[16:18] >> okay. You're for this?
[16:23] >> I am for this. [laughter] >> okay. >> sorry.
[16:28] >> well, what we'll do is we'll go out of public hearing.
[16:32] if we have any questions from the council, we can call you up to the podium. >> all right. >> we'll go ahead and get you on record as a for.
[16:38] >> perfect. [inaudible]
[16:43] >> you can direct it only to us. >> okay. >> approach the person podium, state your name. [laughter]
[16:49] >> sorry. >> thank you, brian. I just have a question.
[16:53] since it sounds wilkins, you said it's not like a traditional tattoo,
[17:00] I'm all about quiet, I don't want any music, any close to anything else close to
[17:05] me not going to have anything like that, just more cosmetic? >> right. >> okay. >> [inaudible].
[17:13] >> anyone else wishing to speak on or for against this item, please approach the podium. Once more. Council?
[17:23] >> make a motion to close the public hearing. >> second. >> motion by councilman roberts,
[17:28] second by mayor pro tem, townsend to close the public hearing. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[17:33] >> aye. >> all those opposed, same sign. We're now out of the public hearing.
[17:38] council. I just had a question for you-all.
[17:45] >> sure.
[17:50] >. Yes, sir. >> how long have you been doing this? >> almost three years.
[17:55] coming up on end of august would be about three years.
[18:00] >> do you currently have a studio anywhere? >> yes. I do currently have a studio that I work part-time at in webster.
[18:09] >> this will be your first time to have your own studio here in angleton? >> yes, sir.
[18:14] >> nice. >> if I remember correctly, we've approved something similar before.
[18:22] >> microbladings. >> microblading?
[18:26] >> how is this different? >> with microblading, the technician is using
[18:32] a hand-tool and a bunch of needles that are bound together in a blade,
[18:38] almost like a scalpel, and they're just using hand pressure to slit a hair stroke into the skin.
[18:46] what I use is with a machine and a very fine needle, almost like an acupuncture needle,
[18:51] and I'm slightly etching it into the skin at a height in the epidermis as a safe zone,
[18:59] whereas with microblading, you can get a little too deep in the skin,
[19:03] causes infections, causes unsavory long term results.
[19:08] what I do is more practical, safer,
[19:13] and can actually fade in a general time
[19:18] that we want brows to fade in because we don't want them to permanently be on our face forever.
[19:24] >> thanks. >> yes, sir.
[19:28] >> I make a motion to approve. >> second.
[19:32] >> can I make suggest on that? Do we follow what the stipulations were that
[19:38] the planning and zoning committee recommended? >> then mine to include the stipulations.
[19:45] >> second.
[19:57] >> [overlapping] I have a motion and amended motion. The amended motion by mayor pro-tem townsend.
[20:03] the second amended is by councilman sarton to approve
[20:08] the specific use permit subject to the conditions that were set forth by planning zoning commission.
[20:17] any further discussion? I'll call for vote.
[20:21] all those in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. Aye. >> all those opposed, same sign.
[20:25] motion carries. Good luck. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. Appreciate your business in angleton.
[20:33] >> at number six, conduct a public hearing, discussion of possible action to approve resolution number 20240611-006,
[20:40] designating certain officials as being responsible for acting for,
[20:46] and on behalf of the city and dealing with the texas parks and wildlife department for the purpose of
[20:50] participating in the local parks non urban outdoor recreation grant program.
[20:54] certifying that the city is eligible to receive program assistance, certifying that the matching share of this application is readily available at this time,
[21:02] and dedicated to proposed site for permanent public park and recreational uses.
[21:06] >> yes. Good evening, mayor and council, just to open up regarding the public hearing,
[21:13] the city of angleton would like to apply for the local parks mount urban outdoor recreation grant
[21:18] offered by the texas wildlife department to provide funding for the construction of abigail areas park.
[21:23] the public hearing and approved resolution is a requirement of the grant application.
[21:28] this grant, in particular, provides a 50% match on
[21:33] a reimbursement basis to eligible applicants for grant selling of $750,000.
[21:40] grant funding can be used for the acquisition while that's not needed.
[21:44] it can also be used for the development of public recreation areas and facilities throughout the state of texas and must be dedicated.
[21:53] the trigger here. We mentioned this before is that once you accept a grant from tpw,
[21:58] similar to this, this park land has to be dedicated in perpetuity as a public park area.
[22:04] in your agenda packet, you see that we do have beyond the 50% match.
[22:10] we will note that in the grant application. That would I hope,
[22:14] look favorable to us when we do so. Of the two million,
[22:20] of course, like I mentioned, that would be utilized 750,000 would be used as the 50% match.
[22:26] again, we'll have an overage. The awarded funds, if awarded,
[22:31] they would be used to assist with design services, park committee,
[22:35] construction, which would include whatever we designate as we get to that point.
[22:40] a design development can be utilized up to 12% of the grant funding provided.
[22:46] [inaudible].
[22:54] >> council to have a motion from oakland park. >> I make a motion. >> second. >> motion by mayor pro-tem townsend,
[22:59] second by councilman roberts. We signify call for the vote.
[23:05] all those in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> all those opposed, same signing out a public hearing.
[23:10] anyone wishing to speak on for against the signing, please approach the podium.
[23:16] once again, anyone wishing to speak on for against this item, please approach the podium.
[23:21] >> I'll make a motion to close the public hearing. >> second. >> motion by mayor pro-tem townsend.
[23:27] second by councilman roberts, to close the public hearing. Call for the vote. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
[23:33] >> aye. >> all those posed. Same sign. We are now out of public hearing.
[23:37] counsel, do we have any motion on this? >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 20240611-006.
[23:48] >> second. >> motion by councilman roberts, second by councilman boos for approval.
[23:54] >> I do like the expedited motion, but I do have a question. How long would we expect to find that?
[23:59] >> the timeline, that is a great question. Actually, the timeline is the grant application deadline is august 1st.
[24:07] we have to have all of our information in by august 1st.
[24:11] the commission will meet, I believe it's in november, make a selection on the grants that they want to want to approve.
[24:19] they will do a site visit for those that they're planning to award in january and
[24:24] hope to execute a contract with each of the municipalities in between march,
[24:30] april, may time period. Anything that we expend prior to that date we can't put in the grant application.
[24:40] this is going to be very similar for future ones that we will be bringing to not just tonight, but probably in subsequent city council meetings.
[24:48] that's very important to know, good question.
[24:56] >> in theory we could expend up to 1.25 million
[25:01] and I guess somehow leave a balance of 750 for matching purposes.
[25:08] >> right. You already have yes. We can move forward with design,
[25:14] which we would want to do anyway. We select a firm, which will likely be coming to city council.
[25:18] next council meeting on the 25th, we'll select a firm, move forward with design development with whatever firm we select.
[25:26] I'll take a couple of months, then they're going to move into the actual construction document development.
[25:32] again, several additional months, probably another four, that's probably going to take us.
[25:36] into the next year. We should be notified at that point.
[25:40] once we get ready for bidding construction, I'm hoping that we would be entering into
[25:47] an agreement with texas park like awarded this grant, and those funds could then be utilized in the construction of the park.
[25:55] when we submit the application, we're going to lean very heavily on our budget breakdown on construction
[26:02] since professional services really are going to be going on during this time.
[26:08] but that's not to say if we need additional professional services done,
[26:12] that that can't be accounted for in the later end. [inaudible].
[26:21] >> no. If I understand. >> right. We will request the 750 because we have
[26:28] a lot of points on their evaluation criteria that they meet,
[26:32] for instance meeting a need that is not otherwise served in angleton.
[26:40] on the south side of town, that is working in our favor. We have our master plan filed with texas parks and wildlife.
[26:45] this is building this park is a master plan initiative.
[26:50] we're hitting several different components that again, will really work in our favor for the criteria.
[26:56] >> I like it. >> the only thing I would like to caution us
[27:05] on is the fact that once we're awarded the grant,
[27:09] that's a park forever. >> that's correct. >> same thing with welch. >> right. Another thing that I should mention
[27:17] is when you're talking about components that you're installing,
[27:22] that matters as well. They like to see longevity about,
[27:26] I think it's 25 years for park components and 44 aquatic components.
[27:33] as you know, one of our amenities, top amenities desired at this park is a splash pack,
[27:39] so we just need to be very cartonizt of that and make sure that we're willing to maintain a splash pack for the next 40 years.
[27:45] >> okay. It's a legitimate concern.
[27:50] I get it, but I also feel like that location is going to otherwise be hard to develop.
[27:58] >> I just want to make sure we're all aware of that and go forward with it not against it.
[28:05] >> other than being a parking perturity, or handcuffs associated with the grant,
[28:12] grants always have hooks on the outcome.
[28:17] >> that is the biggest one. One that we've had recent conversations about,
[28:22] especially as it relates to ruben welch, the same rules apply, that it does have to remain open to the public.
[28:28] if we, for some reason, decided to lease the property,
[28:33] it still has to be a public serving facility.
[28:37] what texas parks and wildlife has told us before, that if we enter into a p3 if you decided,
[28:44] hey, we don't want to manage this anymore, we're going to hire a company to do that. They want to see a percentage going back to the park and recreation department.
[28:51] there are stipulations like that, and one that we're still seeking clarification on,
[28:59] not necessarily as it relates to this park, but ones that we have tpw grants tied two are can
[29:03] we close it at all for emergency purposes, what have you, or does it have to remain open all the time?
[29:09] we anticipate that the answer is going to be, if you're an emergency situation,
[29:13] we understand that it's circumstantial and temporal,
[29:18] but we don't have those answers yet.
[29:26] >> who made the motion? >> I did. >> then you seconded it.
[29:31] >> yes. >> okay. I can't remember here [inaudible]
[29:36] >> I got a motion and a second. Any further discussion at this time? Call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[29:44] >> [overlapping] aye. >> all those opposed, same sign. Motion carries. >> thank you.
[29:48] >> thank you. >> item number 7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action to approve resolution number 20240611-007,
[29:57] designating certain officials as being responsible for acting for and on behalf of the city in dealing with the texas parks & wildlife department for
[30:04] the purpose of participating in the local park small community recreation grant program
[30:08] certifying that the city is eligible to receive program assistance, certifying that the matching share for this application is readily available at this time
[30:15] and dedicating that the proposed site for permanent public park and recreational uses.
[30:21] >> yes. To give a brief overview before we open the public hearing, again,
[30:27] the city of angleton would like to apply for a local park small community recreation grant
[30:32] offered by texas parks & wildlife department to provide funding for the construction of freedom park active area improvements.
[30:38] again, a public hearing and approved resolution is a requirement of the grant application.
[30:43] this is also a 50% matching grant for eligible applicants with grant sealing of $150,000.
[30:51] we do have $900,000 allocated already for freedom park improvements,
[30:55] so we again, would have an over match in this scenario.
[31:00] what we would utilize this funding for is we will be taking to
[31:06] ablc design proposal for professional services for that active area.
[31:12] for those that are unfamiliar with what we're referring to. This is specifically regarding the construction of a 325 foot baseball field, dugouts,
[31:21] covered seating, landscaping, and irrigation, as well as an accessible route for access to these improvements.
[31:30] we know that that budget already is very limited in order to incorporate and construct those components,
[31:36] so we are trying to apply for and seek out as many funds as we can.
[31:42] we have another strategic opportunity that we'll bring to you in the near future for additional funding,
[31:49] but this is one that was a no brainer for us. Since we already have the funds readily available,
[31:55] we thought it was in our best interest to apply for this. The scope of work and proposal that we will present to ablc is right around 99,000.
[32:04] this can cover that cost so that again,
[32:10] most of the fees allocated for this project go towards the construction of a project.
[32:17] >> council do I have a motion open public hearing. >> open motion to open public hearing.
[32:21] >> second. >> motion by mayor pro tem townsend. Second by councilman daniel to open the public hearing.
[32:27] all those in favor, signify by saying aye. >> [overlapping] aye. >> all those opposed, same sign.
[32:31] we are now in public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak on for against this item, please approach the podium, statement.
[32:39] once again, anyone wishing to speak on for against this item, please approach the podium.
[32:45] >> make a motion. Close the public hearing. >> second. >> motion by mayor pro tem townsend.
[32:50] second by councilman roberts. He barely got you. Call for the vote.
[32:55] all those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. >> [overlapping] aye. >> all those opposed, same sign.
[33:00] we're now out of public hearing. Council.
[33:07] >> you said there's a $99,000, what are we talking about there?
[33:11] >> ablc was presented back in april with a proposal for
[33:16] the active area design for the active area.
[33:22] I can't even remember what that proposal was, but it included all the amenities.
[33:27] it was much more would have dipped in pretty heavily into the $900,000 that was allocated for the development of this project.
[33:35] the development of this project is already estimated at the low end just over $900,000, and that's the low end.
[33:42] we had a low, medium, and high range maybe that went to 1.2,
[33:47] don't quote me on that. >> 1.4. >> 1.4.
[33:51] >> was the high end. >> yes. We know that we're, you know, going to be in that area.
[33:58] a lot of that depends on how we design this field, what materials we're using, all of those things,
[34:04] which has not been determined at this point in time. But going out for this grant allows us a little more flexibility to pay for the design,
[34:13] don't include that in the construction costs. You can think of it however you want.
[34:18] we're going to pay for design upfront. Really the grant, what we would be applying for is
[34:26] partial construction because we're going to have to do the design before we can move forward with construction.
[34:32] again, it's the same timeline as the one that we just mentioned. >> I was about to ask you.
[34:37] >> we're going to have to start spending money on design before we can move forward to construction.
[34:45] the approach for the application of this grant will be regarding the construction of the amenity.
[34:52] again, that is assigned to our master plan, that was already noted in there,
[34:57] so we're hopeful that will be ranked high.
[35:02] >> is your purpose for the citizens, the kids that don't have a field to play on at this time?
[35:07] >> right. >> right. I make a motion to approve.
[35:12] >> second. >> motion by mayor pro tem townsend.
[35:16] I think councilman roberts got the second or he just right here on my ear. [laughter]
[35:22] >> he's in your good ear. >> call for the vote or any further discussion on the side.
[35:28] call for the vote. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. >> [overlapping] aye.
[35:33] >> all those opposed, same sign. Thank you, ma'am. On the regular agenda. Item number 8.
[35:39] discussion of possible action on a final plat for ashland utility reserve for 0.23 acres of
[35:43] land containing two reserves and one block for utility purposes out of the shubael?
[35:49] >> shubael marsh. >> shubael marsh survey,
[35:53] a-81 and a-82, missouri county, texas, as submitted by ashland ray development.
[35:59] >> thank you, mayor. Council, this is a final plat for a utility reserve as well as a lift station reserve.
[36:06] on the two reserves, one block, as noted, this is ashland development in retj.
[36:13] this final plat went before the planning commission, and the city engineer did review the plat.
[36:19] you see the markup. I think there. The applicants did come back with a response to
[36:25] the second submittal for clearing those comments in which the city engineer has done so and has
[36:32] issued a no objection for this particular final plat,
[36:36] which will be subject to any referral agency approvals,
[36:41] and finally signed off by the city engineer. There was one question on the future street naming,
[36:48] and we feel confident that it'll all be cleared up as well. We're recommending approval here.
[36:53] it was approved by the planning commission unanimously 7-0 on june 6.
[36:58] this plat is subject to a waiver letter, which was submitted in terms of the timeliness due to the development being
[37:08] halted for some other approvals through the state as well as on the drainage side.
[37:15] they are resubmitting those plats, so you'll be seeing a number of plats in your meetings to come.
[37:21] it's been recommended for approval for the final plat. Thank you.
[37:32] >> council.
[37:40] >> it's located about 1,200 feet or so from 521, as you know,
[37:46] there's a east west major arteria 120 foot right away, it's off of that and just directly east of the recreational center in that core.
[37:59] yeah, that's the location. I'm sorry. You have a copy of that in the packet.
[38:04] >> maybe I don't understand plats as well as some other members of council here.
[38:10] but my concern draws from the fact that when I look at what's in our packet,
[38:18] specifically, maybe I'm not looking at the right page here,
[38:24] but I can't see what page, is 78, I think. Anyway, there is still a fire station on that main east west corridor.
[38:35] [overlapping] relocated to 521,
[38:40] and I'm really starting to get concerned whether that's going to get done. That's a big deal to me.
[38:46] it needs to be a fire station accessible to the entire community, not just to that subdivision.
[38:51] the fact that I keep seeing it hasn't been adjusted, no changes made.
[38:57] >> yes, sir. We've been in touch with the developer. He has committed to bringing that location before council in the very near future,
[39:05] along with the conversations with txdot on the peter road connection as well.
[39:11] they're making some advancement there. We'll make a priority to speak with you soon about that with the developer.
[39:18] but they are committed to that, and we did stress the urgency of locating the fire station.
[39:24] they had no issues with that to be located in one of the commercial reserves along 521.
[39:31] >> this is lift stations because that's what we're talking about, right?
[39:36] >> yes, where the lift stations. >> the lift station is lifting the sewer down to the south, right?
[39:42] >> there's another utilities, I think it's for gas and viper.
[39:47] [inaudible] is represented here. However, I don't think we have any engineering
[39:54] to give you the connectivity there unless you, steve, want to comment there,
[39:59] but that would be on lift station. >> has the wastewater treatment plant been approved?
[40:06] >> the wastewater treatment plant is a separate reserve that has been subject to the referral agencies,
[40:14] but it has not been recorded, correct. >> are we doing this backwards again?
[40:24] we're approving [background] the system
[40:32] to a point that hasn't been approved.
[40:39] >> one of the things that we're looking at is they have to get approval of where they want from pcq,
[40:46] find the outfall, make sure everything comes on that. The plat is the plat,
[40:52] but they do have the opportunity to come back and re-plat again if they need to move it,
[40:56] but it would be on their [inaudible] to do that. They're trying to move forward.
[41:02] I know they've got some communications with tceq on that and with outfall because,
[41:09] of course, you're going to have to look at the stream, what's all on the stream, what all you have to do,
[41:14] what you can release, what you can't release. That takes a little bit of time to get to that point.
[41:25] >> they pretty much centrally located this lift station so everything will gravity flow to the lift station,
[41:32] the lift station will then pump to the sewer plan. That's what it appears to be.
[41:37] I haven't seen a master plan in place. >> the lift station and the treatment plant will be in the grant provided by the city.
[41:46] I believe [inaudible]. >> for now. >> service. It would be the mud.
[41:52] >> but doesn't it become our problem later? >> they'd have to approach the city [overlapping].
[41:59] >> what do you mean much later like 50 years, 40, I can't remember what it was. Thirty.
[42:04] >> thirty years. >> now the way we like to sit here and complain about councils about 30,
[42:10] 40 years ago, that would be us. [laughter]
[42:16] >> time changes, things evolve.
[42:29] council, do I have any action?
[42:50] >> I'll make a motion to approve the file of plant of ash and utility in the station reserves.
[43:00] >> do I have a second? >> second. >> I have a motion by councilman booth and seconded by counselman roberts for approval.
[43:08] >> subject to final sign off by [inaudible].
[43:12] >> do you amend your motion to include that wording?
[43:17] >> yes, I will. >> amend your second?
[43:21] >> yes, I'll amend the second. >> amending the motion and amending the second to make sure that the wording of
[43:31] the [inaudible] the engineer subject
[43:37] to the final signoff by the city engineer and all referral agencies is included.
[43:41] >> just out of curiosity, is that enough land to take care of this?
[43:46] seems like a very small land. >> that would be an engineering question but we would assume they would maximize it.
[43:56] >> oh, we know what happens when we assume a developer is going to do something.
[44:00] >> well, I'm not an engineer, is what I'm saying. But I didn't receive any grant.
[44:06] >> he has to go through construction and all of that.
[44:10] >> let's just say it says subject to city engineer. Let's say city engineer says,
[44:16] no, you need a bigger spot of land, what happens then? They come back to us? If they had to replat it or they're just [overlapping].
[44:22] >> construction would not be completed until that's corrected.
[44:31] >> I doubt that's going to be a case but I'm just curious.
[44:35] >> victor, have any of our list station is that big over a quarter of an acre?
[44:40] >> I don't believe so, no. Not that close.
[44:46] >> no, it's accessible on the west side by public street.
[44:54] site labeled b is going to contain the lift station.
[45:00] that's the sum that goes down to the ground, the pumps, electrical components that run the plant.
[45:07] a is just open ground where we're discussing things.
[45:20] I think it's only fair to counsel that if we're going to have to approve a final plat,
[45:27] that we get the final plat without any stipulations at all.
[45:33] I've mentioned this in the past. I don't know if it's not important or what.
[45:42] >> we do have a copy of the correct [overlapping]. >> I assume this is the final plat.
[45:48] I know you didn't pack it together.
[45:52] but it's become somewhat commonplace.
[45:59] we sit up here and prove stuff with stipulations.
[46:05] we just bring the final plat to us. If they don't bring the plat to us then they'll come back next month.
[46:12] >> that's my fault for not attaching it.
[46:17] >> you're not the one preparing a plat. >> I understand.
[46:22] >> the developer is preparing the plat. Their legal team is preparing all this stuff. I've done it before.
[46:31] I've been in this rodeo many times. But just to come something out there and say,
[46:39] here, and when it's good, we will bring you the good thing and you can sign it.
[46:46] I think that's treating counsel like we're second class citizens.
[46:51] we're trying to go hand in hand with the developer.
[46:58] maybe going forward, everything is cleared up.
[47:07] >> we agree with you 100%. This is a shot clock,
[47:11] getting it from the planning commission to you and getting it on the agenda posting.
[47:16] I just have a hard copy this evening, I'm willing to share it this evening.
[47:21] but moving forward, we'll make sure we try to get it within that 30-day shot clock period. Thank you.
[47:28] >> well, the shot clock is subject to the fact that they've submitted the right documents.
[47:33] if the final plat is not submitted and that's not a final plat and the shot clock does not apply to that.
[47:40] that's my impression of it. >> it depends. >> you got to have the right document.
[47:44] >> I think the real problem here, quite frankly, is that your p&z just met on thursday and you have 72 hours to post.
[47:52] I will add that we are not legally obligated to post anything in the packet. The only legal obligation we have is an agenda.
[47:59] if there is something that you want us to do different,
[48:04] one of the things I could suggest is that you just have the table here with the plats on them.
[48:09] but the p&z meeting on thursday and a 72-hour for us to post,
[48:14] everything has to be posted on friday. If p&z tells them to do something and they do it and we don't get it till monday,
[48:21] there is no way. I don't know how we would get it into the packet in time.
[48:27] >> we would submit the final plat. All the stuff taken care of to planning and zoning.
[48:35] [overlapping]. >> that's true.
[48:39] >> we approved the final plat that was presented to them without any stipulation.
[48:46] >> then I agree with you. I absolutely agree with you.
[48:52] >> counsel, we have a motion and the second on the floor so I'll go past any further discussion on this item.
[49:00] >> I can volunteer that I communicate to meta what city council has said.
[49:06] perhaps if it comes from me, they might actually listen. >> meta is not the developer.
[49:11] they are consultant to the developer. >> meta prepares the preliminaries,
[49:17] quiddity prepares the final plat. >> oh, quiddity. Then let me rephrase.
[49:21] I can send a letter to quiddity saying, please, alter your pattern of behavior.
[49:26] >> the plat didn't work until the engineer and the surveyor signed and sealed.
[49:32] it's just a piece of paper. [noise]
[49:41] >> any further discussion on this side? Go ahead and call for the vote.
[49:45] all those in favor signify by saying aye. All those opposed?
[49:52] >> aye.
[49:58] >> we'll take denial based on what's been presented.
[50:05] >> yes. >> thank you. >> good job. >> I think that's a valid point that they know when the b&z meeting is.
[50:13] if they have to drive down here and bring it personally, then that's what they should do.
[50:17] >> item number 9, discussion on possible action to approve hdr's proposal on the amount of
[50:22] $223,316.50 for the 288b utility improvements.
[50:31] >> good evening, council. We've been working with council and also working with textile
[50:38] on this issue in preparation for the 288b downtown improvements with the sidewalks, the ta grants.
[50:46] we've been talking and coming to council talking about how we can reroute to meet txdot standards.
[50:52] I have met with txdot, again since the last time we met.
[50:56] we looked at slip line. We wanted to try to slip line the existing line through
[51:02] the existing line with a smaller diameter.
[51:07] it's on the upstream in. We'll give you plenty capacity, but txdot will not allow that.
[51:12] they want it to be cased. If it's going through their easement,
[51:18] it has to be completely cased. With that being said,
[51:22] we've been given direction. The casing is going to have to be hdpe pipe for both sanitary and for water.
[51:29] water, we're able to move it underneath and move it around, because of the pressure.
[51:34] we don't have to have it online, but on the sanitary, we've got to keep it at the same.
[51:39] we've got starting and stopping points. We have to meet that. That'll have to be open-cut through the street,
[51:46] which is going to add some effort, as you can see,
[51:51] on it to go and get additional traffic control,
[51:55] additional permitting, things of that nature.
[52:00] we can't pipe burst it and get a bigger pipe to where you
[52:04] could pull the hdpe through it and blow it out.
[52:08] it's not going to be able to because of the casing, through the existing storm shuts put in in the late '90s.
[52:15] it will have to be open-cut. We'll have to chip that casing out.
[52:19] I'm assuming that casing wasn't sized for spacers because we [inaudible] the line, the line is clay.
[52:25] typically, you don't put spacers around in place. I think what happens they probably put a split per casing around [inaudible]
[52:32] they could to get through the box over and left it long after that.
[52:37] it will require that. With all that being said,
[52:44] we have completed the survey. We're ready to move forward into the design of it,
[52:50] and we're requesting council to approve hdr to move forward with the design,
[52:57] the bid phase, and the construction administration for the utility improvements that
[53:02] are attached to the proposal for the amount of $223,316.50.
[53:10] this includes amount of
[53:14] $14,200 for coordination with txdot to get all that stuff through, but it's hourly.
[53:22] if I can get it through quicker and faster, we won't charge it.
[53:26] it's only if we need it. I wanted to make sure I pointed that out to you-all that it's not a lump sum.
[53:32] we get it if we need it, we can do it. I provided a schedule as well as you can see on the signature page.
[53:45] due to a potential back and forth with txdot,
[53:50] when we did wire street, it went back and forth three or four times for just a simple connection.
[53:55] we think it'll take six months. I'm going to try my best to beat that as fast as I can,
[54:00] but that's the schedule that we have right now just because of the back and forth with txdot on the design.
[54:06] once the design is done, it'll take two months through the bid phase.
[54:12] we'll execute the contract. Then after that, it'll take four months to complete.
[54:17] with that, I'll open it up to any questions.
[54:38] again, just to be clear, we're going to auger underneath 288 with the water.
[54:46] it will be just the sanitary that we have to open-cut.
[54:50] >> in this, you have the road repair? >> yes.
[54:55] >> where's that on the line item? Is it under the 900,000 estimated construction costs?
[55:06] >> yes, sir. That's part of that.
[55:20] >> when you go out for bid, you're going to go out for bid to a contractor who's going to do the whole thing turnkey, correct?
[55:27] >> yes, sir. That's what we'll do. They'll sub out what they can't do themselves.
[55:33] yes, that is I didn't print out that cost estimate. Unfortunately, it didn't get printed,
[55:39] but yes, we do have, if you look in the exhibit, there is a point repair included in that as well.
[55:47] >> we talked it through a bit last time we talked about the project.
[55:52] >> I really thought we had a good solution for trying to slip line it, just leaving the existing line alone,
[55:59] but that was next during our conversations with txdot.
[56:10] >> when you do have to cut open, what's through it?
[56:15] how long would you expect that to leak to do that portion?
[56:21] >> well, it depends on, I'm hoping what they do is they'll work in a block to where,
[56:29] they're in different locations, but they'll do track control on a block where they'll do the sanitary and the water line at the same time.
[56:34] water line can be set back to where you don't have any effects into it,
[56:38] but will keep the construction close by. When they do the saw cut,
[56:43] the pavement removal, dig down, remove the clay pipe,
[56:49] they'll actually have to chip out the existing casing in
[56:54] the actual structure where it's a conflict structure to allow it to go across the stone sewer and lay it in.
[57:02] I think they could probably do it in a week's time to put it in, close it. They'll rock it probably at first.
[57:08] then once they get all of them in, they'll bring in an asphalt to top off all together.
[57:14] probably each individual crossing will probably take a week to get across,
[57:20] but the project will take a little bit more time to come back and asphalt, everything.
[57:26] >> remind me there are three of these crossings? >> I think there's four.
[57:30] >> three or four? >> yes, sir.
[57:35] >> let's just 30,000 foot view, what's the benefit of the city of doing this?
[57:43] >> as far as doing this, two; one, your infrastructure that you have in underneath the investment for that grant,
[57:55] I can never say that you won't have an issue, but the likelihood of a failure or something that could
[58:02] damage your improvements is significantly reduced when you start using materials such as pvc and
[58:09] hdpe versus your cast iron that you've already had multiple breaks on,
[58:14] your clay pipe, weak tv, it's moving. It's got racks everywhere.
[58:18] it's collapsing. You know you have issues on there, so that's one.
[58:23] two by doing some of the loving, we're going to get better water quality in there,
[58:29] a little bit better pressure by doing that. There is a secondary to it.
[58:33] >> that's the water side? >> the water side. >> let's talk about the sewer though specifically.
[58:38] fixing this, besides making our sidewalks pretty that we get downtown,
[58:44] is there any other benefit to the citizen?
[58:51] >> because your current system is still conveying it right now.
[58:56] the only thing that really it does is it protects you from having a catastrophic failure to where
[59:02] service is disrupted and you tear up your investment that you're fixing.
[59:07] >> you could be like piney place right now and have total blockage and affect all the downtown businesses.
[59:14] >> it was eye opening with that one when they finally got the tv camera through there,
[59:18] the top of the pipe for the whole entire run was missing.
[59:23] >> I know what you're talking about. >> for piney place? >> piney place.
[59:27] >> well, having tv, these lines [inaudible] from the inside, they can see.
[59:36] well, it's not going to fix it. It is only going to get worse.
[59:42] >> well, there was that along with the fact that even with these improvements, we couldn't even get a face lift for the port with the improvements,
[59:48] knowing that in a pretty short time we might have to come and dust all that up. That was all it boiled down to really.
[59:55] >> how do we pay for it? Because on the budget amount, there's a zero.
[1:00:04] >> depending on the timing and when john bills us right now is
[1:00:09] hector [inaudible] two months ago about sewer and water,
[1:00:14] roy's going to have to come out of fund balance. Depending on, again, the timing,
[1:00:20] we're three-and-a-half months away from the new fiscal year, we'll roll over that,
[1:00:25] but when you look at the total amount of the project, 1.2 million, that far exceeds our water sewer budget.
[1:00:34] if we have a drought like we had the last two years and we have to repair 300-400 water lines,
[1:00:42] we're going to be digging into fund balance on the utility side.
[1:00:50] >> with piney place, we're already digging into fund balance because we're over our budget.
[1:01:02] >> I'll say that from my position as city council,
[1:01:07] I'd like to see us doing projects like this.
[1:01:11] [overlapping] I understand,
[1:01:16] john, I mean, I'm not not in the business. I don't make it my position to have to actually go out and raise taxes.
[1:01:26] that's not what I'm looking to do. But on the other hand, if we can address real needs in the city
[1:01:30] that will have a long term beneficial value to the whole, what I think the rules and responsibility of government are,
[1:01:37] and I think should tackle some of those issues. >> one of the few times where you get to be proactive in something.
[1:01:46] >> true. >> I mean, you got phill. I'd like to hear from you on what's our fund balance?
[1:01:54] how are we looking? Where do we [noise] from? I need some guidance on this.
[1:02:01] >> honestly, if I were to try to tell you what our fund balance was right now, I'd be lying to you because I didn't look before I came in.
[1:02:08] I know that when I've looked at the fund balance,
[1:02:13] it is very healthy for the water and sewer fund.
[1:02:19] but giving you specifics, I can't do that right now.
[1:02:23] I apologize for not being better prepared. >> is there anything in
[1:02:28] capacity acquisition fees or any other other areas that would qualify for this?
[1:02:36] >> there is still some money in capacity acquisition fees that
[1:02:41] I'd have to make sure that we can use those funds for,
[1:02:45] but yes, there's some money still in there. >> I think we're going to have to get creative.
[1:02:54] okay. Thank you. Council, do I have any action on this or any further questions?
[1:03:02] >> I will make
[1:03:11] a motion to approve hdr's proposal in the amount of $223,316.50 for the 20e utility.
[1:03:23] >> I'll second. [noise] >> [inaudible]? >> yeah. Question. In your motion,
[1:03:29] do you want to put where you're going to pull the money from? >> no. I don't think I will. >> okay. Do you want to give guidance?
[1:03:39] or just say figure it out? >> we'll figure it out.
[1:03:43] >> all right. >> we got a flight power. We got no choice. We got to go with this. >> got it.
[1:03:47] >> we already allocated the other money. >> okay. I have a motion by councilman sartin,
[1:03:54] a second by councilman, was it [inaudible]? >> yeah. >> roberts and townsend for approval,
[1:04:00] hdr's proposal of $223,216.50. Any further discussion?
[1:04:06] >> all I'll say is,
[1:04:10] I feel like we've addressed funds last year,
[1:04:19] or was it two years ago when we increased our rates. >> we've done rates two times.
[1:04:24] >> I understand. >> that's two years. >> I understand. >> three years maybe. >> now let's actively take those funds and use them.
[1:04:35] >> we've also been handed some stipulations by txdot in order to take
[1:04:41] their grant money to do the mobility improvements downtown as far as sidewalks and [inaudible],
[1:04:50] which I saw a lot of comments about those in the public survey.
[1:04:58] again, there seems like there's always some hooks in the grant money that you take.
[1:05:05] >> it's true.
[1:05:09] >> I don't know what to do with the grant money, how much that is,
[1:05:14] and now we're going into it for $1.2 million or so.
[1:05:19] >> I'm not sure on the total of that grant, the ta grant. >> 1.5?
[1:05:24] >> 1.5 on our side. >> 1.5.
[1:05:28] >> all right. Go ahead and call for the vote.
[1:05:33] all those in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> all those oppose, same sign. Motion carries.
[1:05:39] item number 10, discussion of possible action to approve hdr's proposal in the amount of $215,140 to perform,
[1:05:46] design, bid, and construction phase services for the lift station number 8, sanitary sewer collection project.
[1:05:53] >> thank you, council. The city has recently been awarded a $1.7
[1:05:58] million grant from the dlo to do infrastructure improvements.
[1:06:03] worked with city staff. We went identified some areas that are some of the worst areas in the city.
[1:06:11] with station 8, just two years ago, we've previously done a section of sanitary sewer repair where
[1:06:19] the sidewalk was twisting and falling in near the pipe material,
[1:06:24] trust pipe, over there on downing. This project, what we've identified as continuing on,
[1:06:32] replacing that type of material that's there along the major collector down downing,
[1:06:38] and also, we're trying to identify locations where there's
[1:06:43] a high probability of massive ionide due to the amounts of ionide that comes into lift station 8.
[1:06:50] lift station 8 is unique. You have two systems on there.
[1:06:55] you have a system for abnormal day working,
[1:07:00] and then whenever you have a rain, you have what they call storm pumps,
[1:07:05] which is a second system that is much bigger, that pumps again back to the plant, that additional water.
[1:07:12] I've opened up the top personally myself and seen [inaudible] grass in that station.
[1:07:19] there has to be a hole somewhere near one of these ditches,
[1:07:24] is what we believe is what's happening where you're getting a massive amount of ionide,
[1:07:30] and the length that that station runs after a rain event.
[1:07:36] you can see on the attachment, the areas that we've identified again,
[1:07:42] they're the main corridors, the arteries to the station 8,
[1:07:47] down alders, down downing. The other locations are areas that we know have a potential of ionide,
[1:07:55] it's down henderson right next to the giant ditch. We're going to go ahead and make that repair.
[1:08:00] also in rancho, and some of those backyards,
[1:08:05] there's been sinkholes in the past.
[1:08:10] there's been repairs in the past due to the type of pipes, there was a [inaudible] that they call trust pipe.
[1:08:14] it was a predecessor of pvc.
[1:08:19] it was a good idea with what they had and it was the best option available,
[1:08:24] but it's hit its life lifespan. It's time to replace those.
[1:08:31] the other one, off by itself a little bit or next to ditches again,
[1:08:36] where we believe there's some high probability of ionide coming in
[1:08:40] there based off of the amount of water that's coming in those list stations.
[1:08:46] we're trying to hit the most logical, most prominent places where water is collected even after the rain event,
[1:08:53] it's in the ditches. You still get a lot of ionide in after the rain is over.
[1:09:01] the amount of 215,140 is a cap number that we have to meet for the glo.
[1:09:09] it's part of the grant application,
[1:09:14] so that's been set by them. We've got to work within that number,
[1:09:18] which we feel that we can. >> does lift station 8 have another lift station next to it?
[1:09:26] what's the one we rehabbed recently over there? >> it was lift station 8. It's not a second lift station.
[1:09:31] it's a dry well wet well configuration. >> okay. >> to where, at the time that it was built,
[1:09:36] they had the wet well where the influent would come into,
[1:09:40] and then you'd have another structure beside it, which where are all your pumps and everything.
[1:09:44] when we rehabbed it, which really worked out well,
[1:09:48] we were able to utilize suction pumps to get it out of the wet well.
[1:09:54] I mean, I had to get the pumps out of the dry well, not the hole in the dry well,
[1:09:58] and use that for additional capacity there. It really worked out, and we rebuilt the wet well structure with cementitious concrete that's been
[1:10:09] impregnated with materials that keep it from being eroded by hydro-sulfuric gases.
[1:10:17] >> but now we want to go back and do the dry side? >> no. This is for the collection system itself.
[1:10:25] this is [overlapping]. >> not the lift station itself. Now it's [overlapping]. >> the collection system,
[1:10:30] it's coming to the pump.
[1:10:35] >> how many people are, would you say, affected by the station number 8?
[1:10:40] >> it's one of your bigger lift station, it's a regional lift station.
[1:10:46] >> it brings flow away from the hospital. That's how far east it goes.
[1:11:04] >> okay. Council.
[1:11:19] >> just generally speaking, I'd like to know how the fund balance is going,
[1:11:24] but that goes back to the previous question. >> this is funded out of the grant?
[1:11:29] >> yeah. >> okay. >> governed by the grant. >> the one we approved in the consent.
[1:11:36] >> that's right.
[1:11:40] >> this is different. That one was cdb this is glo.
[1:11:44] is there a glo in the consent? >> yeah. No. You're right. Oh, yeah. There's a glo.
[1:11:50] >> this is an [inaudible]. I'll make a motion to approve the $215,140 in
[1:11:58] hdrs proposal for the design bid and construction based service [inaudible] sanitary and sewerage collection.
[1:12:05] >> I'll second. I second that motion. >> I got a motion by councilman sartin second by councilman booth for approval.
[1:12:11] any further discussion? [overlapping] >> I appreciate the city going forward and doing stuff like this.
[1:12:18] >> yeah. It's needed. It's going to help.
[1:12:24] the public works predecessors, maybe a couple of them were facing the same issue.
[1:12:33] not to beat of drum, but I was the design engineer on the wet pit dry
[1:12:39] pit stormwater and I don't even know what date that was.
[1:12:43] I had hair back in those days.
[1:12:48] [laughter] then, we were saying the city has to go forward and find where these holes are in the system.
[1:12:56] we're pumping all this water.
[1:13:00] I hope we find a good number of them.
[1:13:06] >> I'm really excited about the ones that go into brushy bayou. We're going to seal all the pipe up around brushy bayou.
[1:13:14] I really feel that's going to be a major improvement to your system and not allowing I and I in.
[1:13:23] also along henderson along that giant ditch. It's always got water.
[1:13:27] then along a couple of these other ditches [inaudible].
[1:13:34] >> okay. Any further discussion? Call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[1:13:42] >> aye. >> all those opposed, same sign. Motion carries. Thank you, john.
[1:13:47] >> thank you. >> item number 11. Discussion and guidance on the percentage of homestead exemption,
[1:13:53] the over 65 exemption, and disabled person exemption from ad valorem taxes
[1:14:02] >> good evening, mayor and council. This is an item that we discussed about a year ago.
[1:14:10] the state allows each local jurisdiction to designate a certain amount of homestead exemption for their citizens.
[1:14:20] last year, as part of the process, we went to a 3% exemption.
[1:14:27] if you'll look at the screen up there,
[1:14:34] I'm sorry, you have the wrong one. >> the one you're looking at has purple across, right?
[1:14:40] >> yes. >> yeah.
[1:14:55] >> while he's doing that, this part of the budget for the setting the tax rate process,
[1:15:03] so if we choose to increase exemptions, that decreases the amount of revenue we get and fix our tax rate,
[1:15:13] so it's just the process so that we get the certified rolls back on 25 july.
[1:15:27] apologize, the file that I brought in is the wrong one.
[1:15:33] you do have this in your packet for the benefit without the slide.
[1:15:42] if we go to 4% local exemption, we will lose about approximately $53,000 in tax revenue for the year,
[1:15:55] 47,000 of that will be general fund revenue.
[1:16:00] the $53,000 is about a half a cent on the tax rate.
[1:16:08] such to give you an idea of perspective.
[1:16:14] if we don't have to change it, we can go up.
[1:16:19] we can go up more than 1% or go up to 5%. We got options, but I need guidance
[1:16:28] because we have to bring an ordinance back to you at the next council meeting.
[1:16:36] I'm here seeking guidance. If you will look,
[1:16:41] the next item is the over 65 exemption.
[1:16:47] last year, we adopted a $55,000 exemption.
[1:16:54] if we were to move up to the $75,000 exemption,
[1:17:00] it would cost cost about 175,000 on the tax rate,
[1:17:05] 175,000 extra, and then finally,
[1:17:10] we have the disabled person exemption, if we were to go up to 75,000 on that,
[1:17:17] it would cost us an extra $11,000.
[1:17:21] I'll try to answer any questions that I can.
[1:17:29] >> can we go in half increments? >> yeah.
[1:17:34] >> go from three to 3.5%?
[1:17:39] >> yeah.
[1:17:43] >> I'd like us to keep going forward, but at the same time, I think my commitments to the no-new revenue rate,
[1:17:51] so I would rather see the no-new revenue with a 3.5% to give you the funds that you need to operate with on the new revenue.
[1:18:07] >> last year, I thought we raised it from 50-55?
[1:18:12] >> yes, sir. >> you're now proposing all the way to 75?
[1:18:16] >> that was just a number that was pulled up.
[1:18:20] [overlapping] >> we're not proposing, just saying. [overlapping]
[1:18:25] >> well, just this, the 55 last year was because went from 50-55, and that was 10%.
[1:18:32] that was a, I thought, substantial jump 10% for by a percentage as opposed to just a pick
[1:18:39] a number out of the sky so to speak.
[1:18:46] I was just trying to figure out how we got to 75.
[1:18:58] >> now, I'd like to see the numbers on 3.5% on the homestead exemption,
[1:19:03] then I like what member pro tem townsend suggested, he's going up another 5,000 on the other two and see if that would equate to in total.
[1:19:12] >> yeah. I'd rather see where we are with that because I do want to leave us plenty of room to operate our budget. [overlapping]
[1:19:18] >> right. >> at the same time, provide some relief for those who are on more fixed incomes.
[1:19:24] >> okay. >> I like that [inaudible]. >> I can get you those numbers.
[1:19:29] >> in light of stuff we're having to spend money on,
[1:19:34] I could paint ourself in the corner, I try to be gracious and then go back and have to increase taxes too. [overlapping]
[1:19:42] >> increase tax? >> I'm not supporting that. Zero. We've got projects coming out of every fund we have.
[1:19:54] I'm fine with just not increasing any further, but I can't get behind cutting it.
[1:20:00] >> I don't want. >> there's no way. >> we're not taking action tonight to make that.
[1:20:08] I'm asking for the numbers and what that would look like. That's all I'm asking for.
[1:20:12] >> yeah. I think it's worth looking for. I think it's worth looking at. [overlapping] >> I'm with both of you. I'm committing to the revenue first,
[1:20:19] and however we get there, that's where we go, and if that means we can't raise homestead exemptions or these others because we
[1:20:25] need the funds to operate on the budget, I'm with you on that. I'm just saying I'd like to see the numbers.
[1:20:31] >> okay. I can get them to you. [overlapping] >> I don't think it's going to work, but what it'll be.
[1:20:37] >> until we come to council in the future, we need a pretty good overview of ledger balances in the future. [overlapping]
[1:20:45] >> okay. Certainly. >> yeah.
[1:20:50] >> okay. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, bill. I think you've got guidance there, right?
[1:21:02] item number 12, discussion of possible action to approve ordinance number 20240611-012,
[1:21:08] amending the fiscal year 2023-2024 budget to include the general fund,
[1:21:13] street fund, water fund, and miscellaneous minor funds. Are we going to table this one?
[1:21:18] >> yes, mr. Mayor. [overlapping] >> I do ask that you table this one. >> I agree. >> okay. We will table this one for the next council meeting.
[1:21:27] >> do any of you think about that?
[1:21:34] >> that means that council will adjourn into executive session at 7:21 p.m.
[1:21:40] item number 13 discussion of possible action on the deliberation of real property which is in section 551.072 of the texas government code.
[1:21:48] [overlapping] >> I was so wrong? [overlapping]
[1:21:54] >> [inaudible]. [overlapping] >> [inaudible] for this. [overlapping] >> we are back from executive session at 7:49 and seven seconds.
[1:22:03] council, do we have any action coming out of executive session?
[1:22:08] hearing none. I'm going to go ahead and call us an adjournment at 7:49 and 20 seconds.