[0:00] Okay, we'll start recording. So, the stream's not working, but we're [0:04] recording and we'll have to post it later. [0:07] Okay. Right now, we'll call the meeting to [0:09] order for the common council Monday, July 7th. Can I have a roll call, [0:14] please? Council member Coffee, [0:16] present. Council member Olsen, here. Council [0:18] member Shy here. [0:21] Council member Dao, here. [0:23] Council member McDerman, here. Uh, [0:25] request approval of the June 16th minutes. [0:28] Move to approve. Second. Motion to second. Any discussion? [0:33] You want everything a roll call or do you want to just do it by voice? [0:37] Yes. Roll call, please. Okay, we're going to call for a roll [0:40] call vote. Member Coffee, [0:42] yes. Member Olsson, [0:44] yes. Member Sharky, [0:46] I. Member D. [0:47] Yes. Member Mcder. [0:49] I. Unfinished B is ordinance number 1780 [0:52] 2025 and amending the Angola Municipal Code Chapter 8.05 solid ways. Taking our [0:59] collection service to 1835 per month. [1:04] Move to approve. Second. [1:07] Motion to second. Discussion. [1:11] Roll call vote, please. Member Coffee. [1:13] Hi. Member Olson. [1:15] Hi. Member Starky. [1:17] Hi. Council member D. [1:19] Yes. McN. [1:21] I. Any other unfinished business? [1:25] New business. Ordinance number 1781 2025. An ordinance fixing the [1:30] compensation appointed officers, deputies, and other employees of the [1:35] police and firefighters of the city of Angola, Indiana for the year 2026. This [1:40] would be a first reading. We'll entertain a motion, then I'll explain uh [1:45] what my proposal is. Move to approve. [1:50] Second. Have a motion, a second. [1:53] This is my recommendation for the following year, which means [1:56] we're coming into budgeting season because this is always a first order of [1:59] business when we do budgeting. We have lost our competitive advantage on our [2:07] payroll, particularly with our first responders, fire and police. So, I'm [2:12] proposing although the uh CPI for this year is [2:17] 2.6, down from 3.2 last year, 2.6 6. This year I'm proposing a 4% across the [2:24] board increase. Uh mayor, are you behind? Are we behind? Is [2:30] that what you're telling? We we we are not where we should be. We [2:34] we we always like to be a little bit above surrounding areas uh as [2:39] particularly in public safety. We are not there. Uh that's why it's we started [2:44] at a 4%. There are some exceptions to that 4%. uh and most of those are in the [2:53] fire department. I am proposing the first class firefighter we increase that [2:59] 6% firefighter increase that 6% part-time firefighters an increase of [3:06] 14%. And the other exception to that 4% across the board is with our part-time [3:11] employees. Uh they're currently at $21 an hour. I moved it up to $22 [3:18] an hour. This is my recommendation for the year 20 26. [3:24] So, I'm just kind of curious, does that uh does that make you equitable or us [3:28] equitable then across the area? Yes. [3:31] Or are we going to be the leader of those? [3:33] Um right now, particularly in the police department, we're on par with our uh Stu [3:38] Ben County. Uh we offer longevity pay. They do not. We offer shift [3:44] differential. They do not. Uh but other than that, we're pretty well matched [3:48] with Stu Ben County. Uh this will put us above what Stuen County is is currently [3:54] paying. Particularly if you look at the longevity pay and the uh shift [3:58] differential pay. Uh we'll be a little bit better off. Uh [4:03] there are some issues on sustainability given the Senate enrolled act one that [4:08] went through. Brian and I are both concerned about that. We are somewhat [4:13] taking a leap of faith that we will be able to make this work uh going forward, [4:18] but we do want to reward our employees. We do want to pay them well. The [4:22] firefighters were a little bit low. If you look at the if you annualize their [4:26] income, Brian did a very in-depth study uh on wage and benefits for police and [4:33] fire comparing first class to first class. The fire department were we're a [4:38] little bit low. Uh we do want to increase that by going to 6%. It'll [4:43] actually move them up a little bit over the fire, but one of the problems we [4:47] have with the fire department is the uh pension. Uh there is an issue making the [4:52] pension equal because of the way they we pay our firemen [4:57] in the mandatory overtime that they have to work, but their pension is based on [5:00] that first class firefighter pension. So by giving the 6% to the first class, you [5:06] also will reward more on the pension for the [5:10] higher pay. So he actually spreads it across the entire [5:13] So you're looking at comp on a bigger picture. [5:15] We're trying to Yeah, we're trying. It does not totally fix the pension issue. [5:19] It does not do that, but it it does move in in the right direction. Uh and and it [5:26] is a fair and equitable paid adjustment. Do the city employees [5:31] understand what you're trying to do? I hope they do. [5:34] I mean, it's it's a good thing. It it it is a very generous pay raise. [5:37] It is well above what the CPI was. Last year was 3.2. We gave a three and a [5:42] half. So, we were slightly above the CPI. [5:45] Even though the CPI has gone down, it doesn't feel that way when you go to the [5:50] grocery store, you go out to eat or you you you go shopping with your family or [5:55] you take them to the or whatever you do. it doesn't feel like inflation's down. [5:59] So, that's why I wanted to go over and above the CPI and be as generous as we [6:04] possibly could uh and still be able to maintain sustainability of our budgets. [6:10] I learned in business that money is a short-term positive motivator, but if [6:16] it's not if equity is not there, it's a long-term bad demotivator. [6:22] I agree. So, it's it's probably a good step. The [6:25] other the only other question I have and then they'll let the other members get [6:28] in was really for Ryan, you know, based and and you touched on it. Based on [6:33] today's situation, it sounds like we're it's feasible to cover it without having [6:38] to worry about sustainability and you're you're wondering about the [6:42] future. We are concerned and I think I'm there too, but I look at [6:46] it from today and and I and I hear it's okay because [6:51] the question that I don't want to do is think today we're going to put something [6:55] in, we automatically already know we're going to have to put a burden on the [6:59] taxpayers and that's not what you're saying. Only if things kind of fall [7:04] apart on other revenue streams. We we we've got and and we'll get into [7:08] the details of our future finance as we go through the budget process. So, we [7:12] don't need to dwell on that. This evening, uh, the county has given their, [7:17] uh, supervisors and their department has guidance that there will be no pay [7:21] adjustments this year at the county level. Uh, the mayors that I have spoke [7:25] to, and I've spoke to a lot of them, they are looking at 0% increase for [7:29] their employees to a maximum of what I was projecting or what I was offering [7:34] was 4%. But that was a pretty small group of people that that thought that [7:38] they would get% increase for their employees this year. This is by far uh [7:43] on the high side of what other communities are doing. Most of them were [7:48] in the two two and a half% range. I know. Go ahead. [7:52] I'm sorry. No, no. All I was going to say was I was my biggest thing as a [7:56] manager was equity was one of the most important things uh to keep the morale [8:01] up and PE people focused. Yeah. [8:04] And uh so I applaud it. I'm I like it. I know that we have Go ahead, Jed. [8:12] Oh, I was just curious on if there were any additional positions included. Did [8:16] we add any staff members to this? Fire department. The fire department, [8:21] the chief asked uh requested that we add a training officer and that has been [8:26] added into this ordinance. Uh and we we will we can discuss that going forward. [8:33] That's the only additional uh position that's been added. We actually [8:36] eliminated the classification of lieutenant in the fire uh department [8:42] because we didn't have anybody at that level. We've been going right from first [8:46] class fire to captain. We haven't been using that lieutenant rank. So, we did [8:52] eliminate that from the this this ordinance, but it does add one position [8:57] which is a training officer. He'll be responsible for internal training within [9:02] our department and he'll also be responsible for our high school training [9:05] program. Both of those uh operations will fall underneath that new rule is [9:10] what we are putting out there. Mr. [9:14] Thank you, Mr. Council. Sharkies, I want one more [9:18] step on yours. Would it potentially preclude down the road adding more [9:23] staff? And am I agree with you on that, Mr. [9:28] I'm concerned down the road we're going to have to have more people because I [9:31] think we're under staff. We are under staff. I I think so too. [9:35] And will that preclude our ability I I support this. I'm not I'm not trying to [9:39] judge that one. Down the road, we're going to have to resolve the problem of [9:44] increased staff. What What's your comments on that? [9:47] That's my opinion. Well, the comment that I would give you [9:50] right now, no, it doesn't preclude us from adding more headcount down the [9:52] road. It's just a matter of adding more people in the in the to payroll and we [9:56] can certainly have those conversations. Right now, Ryan and I try to keep our [10:02] growth to around 3 or 4% on year-over-year budget. This will grow, [10:07] this pay scheme will grow. And adding that person between those two, we're [10:12] estimating or I'm estimating uh I think around eight or 9% to the uh maintenance [10:17] and operation of the budget of the fire department just with what we're [10:21] proposing here. But no, it does not preclude us from adding more headcount. [10:25] That's good because I know there's um a lot of folks that have left our service [10:30] for better opportunities elsewhere and and maybe in the process of doing so. [10:36] So, um you know, the pension is something that we really got to look at [10:42] and I know you you got some good steps here. [10:46] Chief, are you pretty much on board with this [10:50] with the proposed salary ordinance? So the conversations that the mayor and I [10:54] have had quite a few this last week and a half and my topic that I've brought to [11:00] him is what can we do to close the gap? I understand we may not get dollar for [11:05] dollar and pension parody but what can we do to close that gap to help with my [11:10] retention because of what you had just mentioned. [11:13] Okay. Thank you. It's a good step forward. [11:23] question. Uh, [11:25] is everybody ready? Roll call vote, please. And we do have a motion in the [11:29] second. Council member Coffee, [11:31] yes. Council member Olsson, [11:32] yes. Member Sharky, [11:35] yes. Member Dao, [11:37] yes. Member McDermott, [11:38] yes. Ordinance number 1782, 2025, an amending [11:42] the city of Angola code of ordinances, title 9, public peace, morale, and [11:46] welfare, chapter 9.05, 05 general offenses open burning. Uh Chief, you [11:52] want to I think you kind of drafted this. [11:55] I will. I don't know what you have in your packets. If you've got a copy, our [11:58] original burn ordinance was established 1993 under Mayor Selman, Peg Bledsoe, [12:04] and Chief Meek. um what had happened to bring this up in conversation as we get [12:10] into the spring of 2025. We noticed that the burn permit section [12:17] of which is part of our ordinance and part of the requirement for city [12:20] residents when people go on put in for a burn permit the system wouldn't [12:25] functioning as intended. So we started digging into it. Mark was working on [12:30] that started conversation with uh attorney Kim and [12:36] between the two of us I give him information from IDM I give him [12:40] information the municipalities our size basically what this ordinance is doing [12:45] it's taking the burn permit requirement out of the burn ordinance and kind of [12:50] putting it on the self-governance of our residents best example I can give you to [12:55] to make this short is the night of high school graduation. I'm driving home. I [13:01] see eight different households with campfires in their backyard with no burn [13:05] permits that have been submitted. So, were they doing anything wrong? No. They [13:10] were having fun, family, friends, celebrating the achievements of their [13:15] high school graduate, right? And so, after conversation with the mayor and [13:21] Ryan and Kim, it's like, I think we can revise this and I think we'll be okay. I [13:27] don't have people to go out and police it. If we was to leave it as it is, and [13:31] 1993, it's time we take another look at it. So, [13:35] and to your point, just having a burn permit doesn't mean they're going to [13:38] follow this by the letter at all. Oh, I copy that. [13:42] Yeah. I I I got you. I like it. I like it. [13:46] I'm concerned, Bill. We've got a state statute [13:51] open burning of certain vegetation and wood items. No permit required. and it [13:55] doesn't allow an exception in that that I can find. It says subject to [13:58] subsection three of the chapter. And in subsection 3, there's no condition that [14:03] there's an alteration by a municipal pallet. I don't I I don't disagree with [14:08] what's here, but I don't know if we have authority to do that. I guess I'm [14:11] turning to Mr. Sha on that by eliminating the section C. I'm not [14:17] sure our section C was valid under this uh state statute because it required a [14:22] permit and and the the title 13 didn't require permit for those types of open [14:28] burning. So 1993 I couldn't tell you what the [14:33] statute was and what the requirement was. I know authority having [14:36] jurisdiction I looked at something new at one point because it's at the end of [14:40] the statute chief but I I don't remember and I didn't copy it here in what I [14:44] copied. Kim, do you got anything to say or you [14:48] want me to finish saying what I'm saying? Um, so authority having [14:52] jurisdiction as long as we meet or exceed uh state statutes, we can enact [14:59] for hometown jurisdiction, meaning the city of Angola. That's the way I'm in my [15:05] position now. So you understand though, Chief, this [15:08] statute specifically says says one thing. subject to section three [15:13] of this chapter a person may and the only exception by the statute so that [15:19] that is a preclusion statute I think that says that even though we have home [15:24] rule it's a preclusion statute subject to section three and section 3 doesn't [15:29] give us any power to do that [15:33] that's what I'm concerned about I'd like to see us table it till we can get a [15:37] better legal advice on this one because this is [15:39] a little above me [15:43] The proposed statute prohibits burning of refu debris, [15:49] construction materials, excuse me, things of that nature with the exception [15:55] of campfire type burns. [16:00] I I I don't believe the state statute that you're referring to in any way is [16:08] in conflict with that. [16:14] Your recommendation is passed. Yes. [16:19] A motion move to approve. [16:22] Second motion to second. Any discussion? Was that second? Is it me? [16:31] Hearing none. Roll call vote, please. Council member Coffee, [16:35] no. Council member Olsen, [16:37] yes. Council member Shy, yes. [16:42] Council member Dao, yes. Council member Mcder, [16:45] yes. Okay. Public hearing regarding the [16:49] proposed award of a public private agreement resolution number 2025891, [16:54] a resolution of the city of Angola approving the award of build operate [16:59] transfer contract with Kakosing Industries, Inc. Did I say that name [17:04] right? Uh, okay. Uh we will open the public hearing for this. If you'd like [17:09] to address the council, please make your way to the podium. [17:20] Seeing no one moving to the podium, we will close the public hearing and we [17:24] will move on with the consideration of resolution 2025891. [17:30] Resolution City of Angola approving award of the build operate transfer [17:34] contract with Kakosi Industries Incorporated. [17:39] Move that we approve the resolution. [17:44] Second motion, a second. Any discussion? [17:48] Can you explain this resolution? [17:51] Yes, sir. It just really allows us to do this type [17:53] of work. It's probably the easiest way to [17:56] for to enter into this type of the b style [18:01] contract as as opposed to doing a bid. [18:04] Okay. Again, correct. [18:05] Okay. So, it's so it's only for proagen. [18:08] It's only for well this resolution allows us to do that the city to do that [18:13] period. We are doing it for this pokeagen project [18:18] and both be water and sewer. Correct. [18:20] Okay. So yes I just got around after pagan [18:28] activity is done contract. Okay it's preclusion. [18:36] Thanks sir Amanda I I'm trying to find where it was in here. It's in the [18:41] project operating agreement as I read through this. They talk about part of [18:46] our guarantee is that we own the land but we don't own the land and we don't [18:49] own the easement. that's going out there. Isn't that the Stacy's one? That [18:53] was the only concerned me in what I read in all of it. [18:56] So, that's the next one. So, I can either answer that now or wait till [19:01] I thought that this one incorporated that next one. I didn't. [19:04] What we're on now is solely the rest of the Okay. [19:06] The next one is the actual agreement that that you [19:11] Any further discussion? Roll call vote, please. [19:15] Council member Coffee? Yes. [19:17] Council member Olsen? Yes. [19:18] Council member Shy? Yes. Council member Dao. Yes. Council member [19:22] Mcderman. Yes. [19:24] I request approval of the build, operate, transfer agreement for Pokeagen [19:28] Utility Project Division into construction with Kakosing Industry [19:33] Incorporated for a guaranteed maximum amount of 17,274,800. [19:42] I move that we approve. Motion and second. Any discussion? So [19:48] my question please. Your question. So the city will own the [19:52] easements. There will be an agreement between the city and the DNR on the [19:58] splitting of ownership post construction. [20:00] Okay. That's that's built in that we're going to get the ownership at least own [20:04] the easement. That's what I was concerned with. We [20:07] were making a promise maybe we couldn't keep. And they're are they going to do [20:10] that before they start building or is that something? Okay. So that will be a [20:14] separate agreement between the city and DNR because we're the applicant. The [20:19] city can only be the only entity to go into an agreement with Kakosi. So that's [20:25] why it's set up that way because of the funding mechanism. [20:28] We we will have our easement will be granted part of the ement [20:32] because the state owns they own that 100 feet or whatever it is, don't they? They [20:36] own that. It isn't just an easement. They own the property, don't they? that [20:41] like in the park or No, I mean going from from who's your [20:44] hill out. They don't along the road. Those are easements the [20:47] city wall that will be outside of the writing. [20:50] Okay. But yes, [20:52] the DOJ I'm sorry. [20:54] Are the DOJ or extra [20:59] ETJ? Yes. [21:01] ETJ. Yeah. So, the easements along the road [21:05] are all to the favor of the city of Angola. And then once it gets to park [21:10] property, that's where that agreement between the city and the DNR will come [21:14] into play. Okay? [21:15] Because the DNR will own Gotcha. infrastructure. [21:18] Got it. Now that makes sense to me. Thank you. [21:22] When do we think optimistically that we're going to see dirt fly? [21:28] I can speak a little bit. Yep. Uh I'm Nathan Brun with Wesler Engineering. Um [21:33] we received an update from Kakosian today that they expect September 1st [21:38] which I think is technically Labor Day. So, let's say September 2nd for them to [21:41] start actual construction operations. So, [21:45] start September 7 is where they start. [21:50] We have we've seen some preliminary schedules from them. I know there's a [21:52] lot of ground to cover there. I we'll have to talk with them a bit more on [21:56] specifics, but that's a great question. [21:57] Yeah, that's a great question. Where started? [22:01] My best guess it would be that they would start at the south end and work [22:05] north. just just start where they can tie on and progress north [22:09] towards the park. Yeah. Give or take September 1st. [22:12] They're going to redo a lift start at Woodh Hall like redo that and then head [22:17] north. Say on the sewer side. I know that I [22:20] would if I were them I would start at the Woodh Hall lift station just because [22:23] that's what needs upsides first for everything north to come south. So [22:26] yeah. Yeah. [22:27] And it may be different crews because the crew that would work on the lift [22:30] station is probably different than the pipe crew. So they they may be in [22:34] parallel. Yeah, I can see that. [22:37] Yeah, could be doing both. [22:40] Are they likely to build the lift station first before they start the uh [22:44] bike aerial? Is that what you're saying? Where they so they're going to do all at [22:48] the same time? Like Lori stated, I think based on the [22:50] different crews, they might be working in parallel on those activities at the [22:53] same time. I mean, they're going to have tons of people on site through the [22:57] course of almost two years. So um a question that I have just what does [23:02] it mean when it says guaranteed maximum amount does that mean that change orders [23:08] won't change that amount or do change orders agreed upon change orders [23:14] will up it could be upped if it's a change in scope but what has been [23:20] submitted in the scoping letter that's the maximum so if scope doesn't change [23:25] price doesn't change and that 17 million did have the half a [23:28] million contingency built in. Is that in that number too? Can't remember. [23:32] Yes, that includes uh $550,000 of built-in contingency. [23:38] Yes. And I saw somewhere in there there's a [23:41] um and maybe it was in the engineering piece there was like a rate schedule. I [23:46] know there's a bunch of rate schedules, but there was one of them that said it [23:50] was a rate schedule that's set up between 24 2024 and 2025 adjusted in [23:56] April, which would mean that the rate schedule is not correct. [24:01] So, I I'm just wondering if we're basing what we're basing numbers off of that [24:05] rate schedule is not correct. That's in our packet. It's towards the end and it [24:09] has like an F and B or an F and E at the bottom. [24:12] So, those are Yeah. later on. But that is for um [24:18] construction admin and construction inspection. I guess you can speak on if [24:22] you those are accurate. Yeah. So it's fleece and bandon break [24:25] the FNV and that's for the drinking and water project and um our um [24:32] everything's hourly rate not to exceed is is the basis. So, um, we'll we'll [24:39] build on an hourly rate through that, but we we have a not to exceed without [24:44] scope change in our contract as well. So, that rate that's that's in our [24:49] packet, that's this what it's being worked off of. [24:52] Yes. As far as rates, [24:53] yes, that was all it caught me in that note [24:56] at the bottom. Yeah. [24:58] Okay, I'm cool. Thank you. Any further discussion? [25:03] Roll call bill, please. Council member coffee. [25:06] Yes. Council member Olsson, yes. [25:07] Council member Shy, yes. [25:09] Council member Dao, yes. [25:11] Council member McNervis, yes. [25:17] request approval of agreement for focusing utility project divisions one [25:22] and two resident project representation services and and division 2 construction [25:28] administration services with west engineering in the amount of 924,700 [25:35] to approve second [25:40] discussion [25:43] hearing none Call vote, please. Member Coffee, [25:46] yes. Member Bolson, [25:48] yes. Member Sari, [25:49] yes. Da, [25:51] yes. Member McDermott, [25:52] yes. [25:55] Okay. Request approval of the Pokeagan uh utility project Division 1 [26:01] construction administration services agreement with Fleece and Vanderbrink in [26:06] the amount of $225,000. [26:10] Move to approve. Second. Motion to second. Any [26:13] discussion? Roll call vote, please. [26:17] Member Coffee, yes. [26:19] Member Olsen, yes. [26:20] Member Sharky, yes. [26:22] Member Dao, yes. [26:23] Member Mcderman, yes. [26:25] Request approval of the McCagen Utility Project Division 3 construction [26:29] administration service agreement with West Engineering in the amount of 225. [26:34] Did I? Yeah. $225,000. Move to approve. [26:39] Second. I do have one question now. Go ahead, [26:42] please. Um, division three. Is there a division [26:46] three and four? I couldn't remember. Where's four at in all this? [26:50] Um, division four is the water tower repainting and um we are handling that. [26:58] Okay. Okay. Got it. [27:01] I'm good. I don't Mayor I don't believe the [27:04] 225,000 is correct. That didn't sound right for some reason. [27:07] I was kind of hesitated copied from the other one. Yeah, it [27:11] looks like a copy paste. Uh, [27:14] that was kind of what I was thinking. That's why I had [27:17] Yeah, it was more it was significantly less than that amount. I don't know if [27:20] the exact number in my head, but um more it may maybe more in the 40 or 50. [27:27] It was 40,000. Yeah, [27:29] total maybe 40 even just for CA. [27:31] You're complaining about the higher number. Is that what you think? [27:35] Got to print out the whole thing. Uh let's let's nail the number down [27:38] though. Let's make sure it is [27:40] 40,000. Okay. Request approval uh in the amount of 40,000. [27:46] Yes. [27:52] So seconded. All right. Uh any other discussion? [27:58] Roll call vote, please. Yes. [28:00] Rollen. Yes. [28:01] Member Shy. Yes. [28:04] Member Dao. Yes. Member Mcder. [28:06] Yes. reports. Brian, what do you got? [28:10] Um, we had pre-closing last week for all of [28:14] the bonds and and grants and uh bond anticipation notes associated with all [28:21] these projects that we just approved contracts for. The closing is set for [28:25] tomorrow. So, funds will be transferred tomorrow [28:30] and we should be all set to go after that. So, [28:33] that's all I've got. Jim, no report, Mr. Mass. Mr. River. [28:38] Nothing, sir. What's going on in the water department? [28:40] Nothing, mayor. Not a thing, huh? [28:43] Not a thing. Going well. [28:46] Everything's flowing well. He He He's always smiling even though a [28:50] semitr dropped through the valves for one of your water tower as a guy was [28:55] trying to get around the detour for the parade. Uh, fortunately, he did not [29:00] break the pipes. It would have been a interesting experience if he [29:05] It have been a wet one. It would have been it was right next to the Jackson [29:09] Street water tower and it's the main feed for the water tower and it would [29:13] have made one heck of a water park. [29:18] Well, it would have been it would have been a splash pad on steroid. It [29:20] probably would have lifted the truck right out of the [29:24] uh chief. You got anything for us? No report. [29:27] So, no, sir. [29:28] No report. And uh Chief Council, h happy to report that uh [29:35] the camera system that we have installed in our police vehicles, they installed [29:40] 20 of them uh have all been installed and they are all currently working [29:48] and people are happy and people are happy because it's [29:51] actually functioning the way it should. So, so far it has been a good decision [29:55] and a good move on our part. The techn I was over and watched the technology [30:00] is is absolutely amazing. You can see where the cars are. You can actually see [30:04] a feed in the dispatch of what the car is saying. [30:08] It's it's Yeah, it's a it's a neat neat system and appears to be working 100%. [30:13] Correct. Very pleased with that. Anything else, [30:15] Chief? No, sir. Request approval of allowance [30:17] accounts payable voucher 74,932 through 74,243 [30:23] totaling 1,8,455 [30:26] and one lonely penny. I move that the bills be paid. [30:32] Second. Motion to second. Roll call, please. [30:35] Member Coffee, yes. [30:36] Member Olson, yes. [30:38] Member Shy, yes. [30:40] Member Dao, yes. Member McDner, [30:43] yes. Anybody have any other visits for this evening? [30:48] Yes, I do. I was on here when you were able to paint the crosswalks over at Car [30:54] Park and so forth and I I think my doctor imposed walk every morning and I [31:02] I was I was walking here the other day and there was a girl on a bike wanted to [31:07] cross there and cars are just sitting right past [31:11] because there's no crossing car. And then I go home and over by our house [31:15] subdivision there's we got the lights and night and I'm thinking I'm hearing [31:20] how dangerous it is for the crossing guards. [31:23] Is there any way we can look into putting lights right there and down on [31:31] Wayne Street to make it even safer? We have looked at those and I will let [31:36] uh Chief Whitm actually that was something that uh Chad [31:40] and I just spoke of and we're actually going to be making contact with our [31:45] electrical provider that has the big big lights, not just the street light that [31:50] everyone has, but maybe flood lights or something that will actually illuminate [31:55] the entire area a lot better than what it currently is doing. The nice part [31:59] about Carlin, it looks like there is a location that we could mount two over [32:04] that area. Uh, South Wayne, it looks like there may be only one option, but [32:10] uh, we are definitely looking into those with the additional painting and [32:14] everything else. South Wayne is by far one of our most dangerous intersections [32:18] that we have, especially for crossing guards. So, uh, that is something we are [32:22] looking at. Exactly. I I was watching this poor [32:24] girl. She was waiting, cars are just zipping past. They're like nothing. than [32:27] I might. Well, mind you, I've been at the bicycle [32:30] crossing at Menard's and and Meyer and it's flashing like crazy and they and [32:35] the top of the hill or there's a red light and they still pay no attention. [32:39] That's that's just human nature. But then but you're but you're at [32:42] hospital you pop the thing and and you go come through. There's nothing for [32:47] those kids to do that. They're just they're hoping I guess hope that the [32:51] cross does seem to work down west with the knowledge by [32:56] the old church. We haven't looked into those yet. This [32:59] is this is just additional. I would like I I I guess I'd like to [33:04] have that looked into because if we're putting one there for the crossing for [33:07] the the water park area, which I surely the kids would go to school [33:13] or playground, do we know what that cost? you talked about for the lights [33:20] there at the Yeah, we had looked into doing that um [33:23] at the library maybe one to two years ago and it was around the 15 to $20,000 [33:29] range. Now, is that should be similar to the [33:32] one that is near the new location of the water park? [33:35] Yes. Okay. [33:36] Yes. Similar similar. [33:38] That's not the one by mine. That's the one you try to go across hardcourt. [33:41] We're talking one by me. One by you. [33:44] Okay. That's I'm thinking we're looking at because it's got to be something. [33:47] Pricing is not that anymore. Well, at our church, we [33:50] I'm just concerned about the safety issue. [33:52] We've been looking at that at our church and having the signal so it can be read [33:55] depending on either way the traffic is coming. It's a 35 to $40,000 bill. [34:01] Just to give you an idea, I'm also concerned about some little [34:04] kids. What's the value that that child? Yep. [34:07] Just as we're talking about, we have an idea what [34:10] might cost in a budget to do it. Well, look at [34:13] schools aren't going to have money to contribute. I can tell you that. [34:17] It's not something they've contributed to in the past. [34:19] They definitely won't now with with the budget. It affects them the most. [34:24] They're in worse shape than we're working. [34:27] Uh any other new business? Hearing none. The next council meeting [34:31] will be Monday, July 21st, 2025. We are ajourned. Thank you. [34:42] See you in September. You know it. Thanks for nonetheless. So they're not [34:46] me.