1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,800 Okay, good evening everyone. Welcome to 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,560 the regular council meeting for Tuesday, 3 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:08,440 July 21st. It's currently 7:00. Before 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,800 we get started, 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,200 the Village of Anmore would like to open 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,680 our meeting by recognizing the many 7 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,560 indigenous peoples of our area, 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,120 including the following First Nations 9 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,600 with communities that are now located in 10 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,720 the region that we know as Metro 11 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,120 Vancouver. 12 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,520 It'll be the Musqueam, Squamish, 13 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,280 Tsleil-Waututh, and Kwikwetlem. 14 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,240 Further, we'd like to honor the 15 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:26,800 important place in history occupied by 16 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,400 the many tutorial keepers of these lands 17 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,640 and waters around us since time 18 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,640 immemorial. 19 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,680 I'll call the meeting to order. Could I 20 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,240 get someone to move the agenda as 21 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,520 circulated? 22 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,880 >> Second. 23 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,360 >> Call the question. All those in favor? 24 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Carried unanimously. Uh 25 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,440 we have public input. Uh 26 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,320 public is to uh come forward and ask any 27 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,160 questions regarding to business that's 28 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:50,920 on the agenda. Uh 29 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,680 Agenda items only. 2-minute time limit 30 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,680 applies to speakers. Anybody wishing to 31 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,280 come forward and discuss anything on 32 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,190 tonight's agenda? 33 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Nope. 34 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,000 Okay. 35 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,760 Move on to uh delegations. We have a 36 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,320 delegation from Lina Aziz to present 37 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,400 regarding Lower Fraser Valley Flood 38 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:18,470 Plains Coalition, a regional request. 39 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,840 I'm going to 40 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,120 I I'm just going to ask Did Did you want 41 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,960 to come to public input comment on 42 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:25,800 anything at public input? 43 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,240 Okay, I'm just going to if we can just 44 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,000 put you on hold, sir. 45 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,600 Please come up and state your name and 46 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:38,270 address. 47 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,880 » Zane Erickson, 2000 Rich Mountain Drive. 48 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,720 I'm just um 49 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,400 just wanted to bring up something about 50 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,040 the proposed changes to the 51 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,720 >> Could you pull the mic up a little? 52 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Yeah. 53 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,600 There you go. Perfect. 54 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,000 >> Just the changes to the zoning bylaw, 55 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,280 and I'm just looking for more 56 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,840 specificity 57 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,760 in what's written. 58 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Specifically regarding 59 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,920 basements 60 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,160 and 61 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,760 I found a little bit 62 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,880 vague where it was described that 63 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,080 um they're wanting to limit it to a 64 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,160 partially exposed. 65 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,040 I didn't see a definition 66 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,160 of what partially exposed means. 67 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,120 And I think by reading it that I find 68 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,840 the intention that limiting the height 69 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,680 to 2.75 m from the basement floor to the 70 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,200 main floor 71 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,640 is what would be the guiding definition 72 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:32,880 of partially exposed. 73 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,680 And I'm just concerned that in Ann Arbor 74 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,120 uh if we reduce 75 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 basement ceiling heights to 8 ft 76 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,440 uh with large spans, with the way that 77 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,640 houses are designed in Ann Arbor 78 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:47,200 we're going to have people with 79 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,920 you know, 7-ft ceiling heights in 80 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,280 basements if you need to do large spans 81 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,640 with floor trusses like we do so we can 82 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,520 run all their ducts and what not through 83 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,959 there. And so I 84 00:02:56,959 --> 00:02:59,200 I'm just concerned that 85 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,870 these changes that are being made are 86 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,239 maybe academic more than um real-world 87 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:10,560 examples happening in the village. And 88 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,920 so I think some of that just needs to be 89 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:14,880 looked at a little bit more. 90 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,080 >> Good. Thank you very much. 91 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,400 >> Yeah. 92 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,880 >> Any other public comments before I vote? 93 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,920 Sorry. We'll get back to our delegation 94 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,200 now, Ms. Lena Aziz. Thank you. And thank 95 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,239 you for your patience. 96 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:26,720 >> I just think we're just 97 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,519 putting out 98 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:28,560 like that 99 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,360 you know, our website and a little bit 100 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:36,190 of teaching a little bit about it. 101 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:42,670 Sure. 102 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,959 » And please feel Yeah, feel free to 103 00:03:43,959 --> 00:03:52,990 change that. Move that. Yeah. 104 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 » Uh good evening, Mayor Kumpel. My name 105 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,320 is Lina Lee. I'm the Watershed Programs 106 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,080 Director at Watershed Watch Society, a 107 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,200 conservation charity based in Fort 108 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Langley, 109 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,120 BC. Our work goes where salmon goes and 110 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,160 where problems lie. 111 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,840 >> Today 112 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,550 >> Sorry. 113 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,200 » Okay. Is this all right? 114 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,000 >> Yes, it's fine. 115 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,880 >> All right. Today, I'm speaking as a 116 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,560 member of the Lower Fraser Floodplain 117 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,799 Coalition. The coalition is a group of 118 00:04:19,799 --> 00:04:22,160 organizations, experts, and advocates 119 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,160 working toward integrated, 120 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,320 fish-friendly, and climate-resilient 121 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,160 floodplain management across the Lower 122 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Mainland. 123 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,080 Our vision is simple. 124 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,800 That the people and the non-human 125 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,400 relatives of the Lower Mainland are 126 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,120 healthy, safe, and resilient to 127 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,470 flooding. 128 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,840 I'm here with a request that the Village 129 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:42,760 of Anmore join other communities in 130 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,840 becoming a signatory to the Regional 131 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:46,720 Joint Statement on Action for Floodplain 132 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Resilience in the Lower Mainland. 133 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Since uh 2022, we've been convening 134 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,120 local governments and First Nation 135 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,760 leaders and experts from across the 136 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,960 region to build the relationships, the 137 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,760 knowledge foundation, and momentum 138 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,440 needed to ready our region for flood 139 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,800 resilience. 140 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,040 Over the seven dialogues we've hosted, 141 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,000 themes around coordinated action, 142 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,040 regional action, sustained funding 143 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,800 sources, and advocacy to the feds and 144 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,400 the province keep coming to the surface. 145 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,720 Those seven uh meetings are represented 146 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,200 by the seven reports we have on the 147 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,150 slide there. 148 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Uh something else that's emerged from 149 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,440 the regional discussion is that it's 150 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,560 time for multi-benefit flood management 151 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,680 in the Lower Mainland. We are stuck with 152 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,919 the approach to flood control 153 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:31,400 infrastructure that was developed rather 154 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,440 hastily in 1948-49, 155 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,680 and that combined with provincial 156 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,440 downloading of flood management to local 157 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,160 governments leaves us confined to 158 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,880 piecemeal approaches, 159 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,720 but it doesn't have to be that way. 160 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,480 Across the border in Washington state, 161 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,000 there's a program called Floodplains by 162 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Design. The state the the state of 163 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,960 Washington has invested five $359 164 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,280 million 165 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:54,320 in large-scale multi-benefit projects 166 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 that have reduced flood risk for 88 167 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,040 communities, restored over 275 km of 168 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,640 salmon habitat, 169 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,240 supported local farms and boosted 170 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,840 regional economies since 2013. 171 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,280 These investments have already saved 172 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:09,560 nearly $2 million in avoided flood 173 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,000 damages. Beyond safety and habitat 174 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,440 gains, the program is a powerful 175 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,640 economic driver. Every million dollars 176 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,800 um 177 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,560 invested generates 2.2 to 2.5 million in 178 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,880 economic local economic activity, with 179 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,880 about 80% of that money staying in the 180 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,120 community. The program has leveraged has 181 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,000 leveraged funding for local from local 182 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,560 and federal partners at a 3:2:1 ratio, 183 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,040 creating thousands of jobs statewide. 184 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,240 We have been um learning from and being 185 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,919 mentored through that program over the 186 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:40,120 past few years, and we want to create an 187 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,480 investment of that kind for British for 188 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,790 the the Lower Mainland. 189 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,760 But despite all the goodwill 190 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,520 demonstrated in the region and the good 191 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,200 ideas that are out there, we have to 192 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,760 acknowledge that we are in a crisis 193 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,240 situation. 194 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Flood risks are escalating. In the Lower 195 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Mainland alone, we have lived through 196 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,400 major flooding in '21, 197 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,200 '24, '25, and a bit also this year in 198 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,440 the spring of 2026. 199 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Aging infrastructure, development on 200 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,640 flood plains, and a changing climate are 201 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,269 all converging. 202 00:07:14,269 --> 00:07:15,440 >> [snorts] 203 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,000 >> Uh I should note, of course, the BC 204 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,400 flood strategy does exist. It's been 205 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,880 around since 2024, [snorts] but there's 206 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,640 zero funding to actually implement that 207 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,000 strategy. 208 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Flood resilience is not discretionary 209 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,400 spending. It is prudent financial 210 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 management. Every time we kick the can 211 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,200 down the road, we are gambling with the 212 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,640 lives, the homes, food security, 213 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,280 infrastructure, and ecosystems in the 214 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Lower Mainland. 215 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,000 In fact, a single major flood in the in 216 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,080 the region could wipe out over $350 217 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,720 billion in economic value. 218 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,400 The Close to Home report by the Canadian 219 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Climate Institute makes clear that BC 220 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,480 will be the province hit hardest by 221 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 escalating flood and wildfire-related 222 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,720 disaster costs. And yet we continue to 223 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,520 build in high-risk zones, locking in 224 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,400 future losses. 225 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Of note, I just want to say there has 226 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,360 been no significant federal or 227 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,480 provincial investments in flood safety 228 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 in our region since the Fraser River 229 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Flood Control Program ended in 1995. 230 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,600 But opportunities do exist. 231 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,919 The federal government has a clear 232 00:08:12,919 --> 00:08:15,360 interest in a resilient Lower Fraser, as 233 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,560 mentioned in recent announcements. It's 234 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,200 an opportunity to channel investments 235 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,600 that deliver regional solutions that 236 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,320 work with nature and the economy. 237 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 It's worth noting, also, that the $150 238 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,080 to $164 million awarded through DMAF to 239 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,280 the region 240 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,000 has been scattered amongst individual 241 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,080 projects, not a coordinated regional 242 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,640 program, 243 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,320 which has made which unfortunately has 244 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,440 not made our region flood resilient. 245 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,800 A real investment program means 246 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,760 sequencing the right tools in the right 247 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,320 order, building local capacity, 248 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,160 funding applied funding applied 249 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,839 research, creating jobs, and 250 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:51,080 prioritizing the most vulnerable 251 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,910 communities first. 252 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Which all of that brings me to the joint 253 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,920 statement that I'm here about today. The 254 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,640 aim is to express a unified regional 255 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,560 voice across local governments and First 256 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,240 Nations and support advocacy to federal 257 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,320 and provincial governments for stable, 258 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 long-term investment in flood resilience 259 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,200 that protects people, communities, and 260 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,680 ecosystems from 261 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,120 flood risk. And this is not just 262 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,760 riverine, we're also talking about 263 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,560 overland flooding and things like 264 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,160 atmospheric rivers. 265 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,240 It is an opportunity for the city as as 266 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,480 for the village 267 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520 as leaders to send a clear message to 268 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Ottawa and Victoria, letting them know 269 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,640 that we are ready to work together as a 270 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,480 region to build flood resilience for our 271 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,160 communities. We know what we need, and 272 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,480 federal and provincial governments must 273 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,040 step up to protect this region of 274 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,200 national significance with a program 275 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,280 that reflects the magnitude of the task 276 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,080 at hand. 277 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,440 To that end, we are calling 278 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,680 the joint statement calls for a 279 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,400 dedicated long-term flood resilience 280 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,760 program for the region, stable committed 281 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,680 funding, not project by project funding, 282 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,040 regional coordination, investment in 283 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,080 critical infrastructure, and the full 284 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 flood risk reduction toolbox, including 285 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,240 nature-based solutions, and capacity 286 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,160 support for First Nations and local 287 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,800 government leadership 288 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,160 to move this work forward. 289 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,280 So, on May 29th, the Metro Vancouver 290 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Regional District's board endorsed this 291 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,400 joint statement, and since then we have 292 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,440 been doing delegations to two 293 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,680 municipalities across the region. So 294 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:22,000 far, we have got endorsement from Metro 295 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Vancouver and the SLRD, the 296 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Squamish-Lillooet Regional District. We 297 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,120 are 298 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,600 seeking endorsement from the FVRD later 299 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,040 this month. City-wise, Port Coquitlam, 300 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,560 the City of Coquitlam, City of Delta, 301 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:36,680 Township of Langley, and the City of 302 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,600 Langley have all signed on. We're in 303 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,560 process with the City of Vancouver, 304 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,800 Maple Ridge, and City of Surrey as we 305 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,960 speak. And we have um 306 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,520 more coming up 307 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,430 after the after the August break. 308 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,920 So, 309 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,400 to summarize then, 310 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,680 I should turn my sheet over. 311 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:00,000 Essentially, this the statement is 312 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,240 calling on the provincial and federal 313 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,440 governments to recognize that 314 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,240 collaboration, not competition for 315 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,560 piecemeal funding, is the foundation of 316 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:08,680 for resilience in the Lower Fraser, and 317 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:10,360 that enabling First Nations and local 318 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,960 governments to work together to meet 319 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,200 responsibilities to their communities 320 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160 that flow from rights, titles, and 321 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,480 jurisdiction is part of that foundation. 322 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,280 And we're calling on the federal and 323 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,560 provincial governments to develop a 324 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:25,200 sustained long-term investment program 325 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,360 for the Lower Fraser adequate to support 326 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,680 collaborative work across for federal, 327 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,000 provincial, and local governments, First 328 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Nations, and the private sector to 329 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,280 achieve regional flood plain resilience 330 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,880 that works with nature, not against it. 331 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,840 This work is bigger than one community, 332 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,200 and we're hence we're um trying to bring 333 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,920 everyone together so we can work 334 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,040 together. 335 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,470 Thank you. 336 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,400 » Good. Thank you. Um 337 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,240 with my role on Metro Vancouver, we we 338 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,920 did endorse this, and we've really had a 339 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,960 challenge because there is 340 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,920 the provincial government and federal 341 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,280 governments are not putting any funding 342 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,000 towards this very significant issue that 343 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,320 is facing uh a lot of our 344 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,360 municipalities. I especially feel for 345 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,000 like a municipality like Pitt Meadows of 346 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,240 very small size just doesn't have the 347 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,440 funding to be able to do this, and no 348 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,720 money coming from the province or the 349 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,640 federal governments to be able to to do 350 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,320 a lot of these things. And I know it at 351 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,200 Metro Vancouver, we also had the the 352 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Fraser Valley 353 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,320 uh flood plains task force that we have 354 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,680 there, and we we are have a real 355 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:24,560 challenge with it as well to maintain 356 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,520 funding for that. So, anyway, I really 357 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,080 support uh 358 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,440 your what you're what you're doing and 359 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,800 getting and us all advocating for the 360 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,040 same thing and and helping out. We but 361 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,839 it also I think includes dredging as 362 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:37,880 well because a lot of the uh areas of 363 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,240 the lower Fraser need to be dredged 364 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,120 because they're now the siltation that's 365 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,640 come down over the years, and and the 366 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,160 federal government, which is their 367 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,839 responsibility, is not participating in 368 00:12:45,839 --> 00:12:47,760 that at all. So, I'll just open up if 369 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,480 anybody has any other further questions, 370 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,040 but just wanted to thank you again for 371 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 coming and for your presentation and the 372 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,360 work that you're doing. 373 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Any other comments? 374 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Councilor Richardson. 375 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,920 >> So, I I went to your website to try and 376 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,560 understand. Like, I understand it's a 377 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,120 group of people coming together to try 378 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,040 and raise awareness, 379 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,480 but I didn't read any 380 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,760 examples. This is what we'd like to do. 381 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,120 And in your presentation, you even said, 382 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,520 "We're building on flood plains and 383 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,760 putting people at risk." 384 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Where? How many? Which municipalities? 385 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,839 Cuz it seems to me 386 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:25,680 it would be the responsibility of the 387 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,160 municipalities not to do that, not the 388 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,720 provincial government or the federal 389 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,920 government 390 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,680 to restrict municipalities from where 391 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:34,440 they want to build. So, I was a bit 392 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,440 confused 393 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,600 sort of how it would work, where the 394 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,680 money would go, and what it would do. 395 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,040 >> Yeah. Um actually right now, I think 396 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,360 it's bill 44, provincial bill 44, where 397 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,200 um the province is kind of directing 398 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,360 local governments in one way to build in 399 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,920 order to densify communities, which um 400 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,520 in some communities are they're 401 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,200 considering more development and more 402 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,160 denser development in the flood plains. 403 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,720 Burnaby is one. 404 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,080 PoCo is another. 405 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Um 406 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,320 so, that's kind of 407 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,920 what I mean by we're building more in 408 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,680 the flood plain, and perhaps not to 409 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:14,560 certain flood standards that um 410 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,360 have to be updated still, especially for 411 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,000 the local communities having to update 412 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,120 their flood standards. The The second 413 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,640 part of What was the What was the second 414 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,160 part of the question? 415 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,840 >> I was kind of looking for a specific 416 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,520 examples of where the money would go, 417 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,160 what it would do. Like 418 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,760 are they looking to have the federal 419 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,480 government come in, and your numbers 420 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,080 were huge, raise all dikes on the Fraser 421 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Valley, 422 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,160 you know, 5 ft? 423 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,200 Like I I was a bit 424 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,800 confused like even work with nature. 425 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Like if you work with nature, the river 426 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,560 just flows. 427 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,200 So, our point actually is in some ways 428 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,160 is to not work with nature. 429 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,120 We want to control it and force it into 430 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,160 particular channels and paths. 431 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,839 >> So, that's what's happened before, Ian. 432 00:14:56,839 --> 00:14:58,120 >> So, 433 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,760 I I didn't quite understand what the 434 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,200 overall goal is. 435 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,600 >> Yeah, well, 436 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,120 there are many different steps before we 437 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,520 actually start breaking ground and, you 438 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,880 know, doing any of the flood resilience 439 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,920 projects we'd like to see happen. Um 440 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,200 right now, we have funding from NRCan, 441 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Natural Resources Canada, to do research 442 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,640 on critical infrastructure. So, we're 443 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 starting to identify where are the 444 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,840 critical infra- 445 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,000 infrastructure at the moment? So, 446 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,120 railways, roads, focusing on those, 447 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,080 their their their flood risk weaknesses. 448 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,880 So, that work current studies currently 449 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,720 being conducted through UBC School of 450 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Engineering. 451 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,520 And we would love to have more 452 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,800 communities on board and participating 453 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,200 in that study so that their critical 454 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,520 infrastructure in the communities are 455 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,000 getting 456 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,880 studied and addressed. 457 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,240 So, that's one thing that's happening. 458 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,840 More There is more 459 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,310 need 460 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,080 There is further need for actually doing 461 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,360 more applied research cuz we actually 462 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,200 don't know 463 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,840 where all of the high-risk flood areas 464 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,960 are in the Lower Mainland. 465 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,560 It shifts. Right now, everyone's 466 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,920 focusing on the Sumas Prairie for 467 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800 obviously good reasons. But, this past 468 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,880 March, we had a slide at the top end of 469 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,720 the Coquitlam River. Well, that's an 470 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,840 area perhaps of high risk as well. So, 471 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,400 there are so many different areas of 472 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,880 high risk within our communities that we 473 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,360 haven't fully identified yet. So, that 474 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,800 has to be done. 475 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,880 We talk about using the flood risk toolkit, and that is 476 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,480 everything from gray infrastructure like 477 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,760 dikes, pump stations, 478 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,160 you know, channeling things, all the way 479 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,400 to green gray solutions like greener 480 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,640 dikes, 481 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,160 using berms for example, or creating 482 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,640 constructed wetlands. So, those are more 483 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,200 nature-based solutions, constructed 484 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 wetlands to hold more water and allow it 485 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,920 to flow more slowly because as we are 486 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,280 developing and have developed in our 487 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 floodplains and our slopes, we have 488 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,640 taken away the capacity of forests and 489 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,600 wetlands to do what they need to do. We 490 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,480 have lost 80 491 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,040 82% 492 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,720 or so of the wetlands in the Lower 493 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,600 Mainland. So, therefore, we've lost the 494 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,560 to capacity of to hold water in the 495 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,920 region. 496 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,520 >> So. 497 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:15,959 >> yes. 498 00:17:15,959 --> 00:17:17,920 >> Yeah, I just wanted to kind of wrap this 499 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,959 up. Basically, in essence, you're an 500 00:17:19,959 --> 00:17:21,240 advocacy group for all the 501 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,560 municipalities and different um 502 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,959 uh bands up along the the Fraser River, 503 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:28,840 which which is something that you're 504 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,360 looking to coordinate a 505 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:33,080 kind of a central 506 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,640 um request to both levels of government 507 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,080 and work as a as a as a as a unit rather 508 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,040 than what happens right now, which is a 509 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,320 lot of municipalities, i.e. the 510 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,880 Richmonds and that have their own flood 511 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,480 plans, but they're not in conjunction 512 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,160 with other neighboring municipalities 513 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,200 like Delta and such like that. So, 514 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 really, I think the the essence of of 515 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,360 the ask is just to uh sign on with the 516 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,520 other municipalities as to this regional 517 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,680 body 518 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,080 kind of speaking for all of us and 519 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,560 getting the required funding that we 520 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,240 need to get from the senior levels of 521 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,000 government. Is that 522 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,280 >> Yeah. Yeah, we do advocacy. We also do 523 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,440 convening. We bring local governments 524 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,200 and First Nation leadership together. We 525 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,240 do this at the regional scale, so Hope 526 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,840 to the Salish Sea up to, you know, the 527 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,040 Squamish Lil'wat Regional District. Um 528 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,600 but we also do this subregionally at 529 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,320 smaller groups, so we can we can talk 530 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,880 about things at different levels based 531 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,040 on what's needed. So, we do we do the 532 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,280 advocacy. We do the convening, bringing 533 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,760 together people, and we're creating a 534 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,760 knowledge hub. We're creating the shared 535 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,480 knowledge uh space for communities to 536 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,800 access. So, we are not we are not the 537 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,160 ones who would 538 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,280 In essence, we should not be the ones as 539 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,920 uh we're not leadership, right? We're 540 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,240 kind of behind the scenes, but we want 541 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,040 to support and encourage leadership to 542 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,280 have have um 543 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 uh the words and the knowledge to then 544 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,400 go forward and speak to the province and 545 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,000 the feds and bring this investment to 546 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,080 the region. 547 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,040 >> Thank you. 548 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Is this something you have a resolution 549 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,800 for us or something we can 550 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,720 move to endorse? 551 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,000 >> Perhaps if council desires um 552 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,280 uh a resolution can be um that the uh 553 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,280 council uh supports the request uh of 554 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,360 the delegation. Something as simple as 555 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:12,120 that, perhaps. 556 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,480 >> Would that be Would the Village of 557 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,800 Anmore Council support the 558 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,200 movement of the I forget what exactly 559 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,800 the name is. 560 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,600 >> statement. 561 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,360 >> The the Lower Mainland Lower Fraser 562 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,320 Flood Land Coalition. 563 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,120 >> Um yeah, yeah. The exact name of the 564 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,240 statement is I believe you have it as 565 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,000 well. Yeah, and if you wanted to see the 566 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,040 wording, it is on my slide deck as well. 567 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,880 >> We can We'll word smith. So, I'll call 568 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,280 the question and 569 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Do I have someone to move that 570 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,000 resolution? 571 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,840 To endorse the flood lands. Okay, 572 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,200 Counselor Krygier. 573 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,840 >> So, are we requesting to send a letter 574 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600 of support or 575 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,320 >> I did 576 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,040 >> I Is it a 577 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,200 >> What is the actual action? That's what 578 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,240 I'm a little confused about. 579 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,920 >> we've been what we've been receiving 580 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,400 from other local governments is a very 581 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,000 brief letter showing reflecting support 582 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,800 for the joint statement, as well as a 583 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,240 logo that we can then put up on our 584 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,320 presentation and on our website. 585 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,920 So, that's that's the basic ask. 586 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,360 >> Okay. 587 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,400 >> And then, of course, as we're moving 588 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,640 forward, if there's interest in being 589 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,560 part of our convenings and being part of 590 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,920 any advocacy that does happen at the at 591 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,560 the high upper levels of government, 592 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,520 being invited to participate in that as 593 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,800 well. 594 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,480 >> Okay. 595 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,040 So, could I get someone Does somebody 596 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,840 want to move that motion to submit a 597 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,520 letter? Moved. 598 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Anybody want to second? I see Paul's 599 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,840 going to second it. 600 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Okay, any further discussion? 601 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,160 Councilor Richardson. 602 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,320 >> Yes, I kind of mentioned earlier, like I couldn't really understand who you 603 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,240 were, how you were funded. You said you 604 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,920 were a non-profit. 605 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,160 And I I 606 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720 didn't quite understand your role. 607 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,000 And in order to send a letter saying I 608 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520 support you, I kind of have to know 609 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,400 more. 610 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:53,960 >> Okay. 611 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,200 >> So, I I can try and find out offline, 612 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,600 but I couldn't find it before. So, maybe 613 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,480 we can have a conversation or something. 614 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,640 >> I'm happy to chat. But, very quickly, we 615 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,480 are really just like a a of different 616 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,760 organizations who are who think the 617 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,000 region needs to be organized in a in a 618 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,360 better way. We don't have a regional 619 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:12,560 flood plan. 620 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Um and we're at risk because of that on 621 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,680 many different levels. Environmentally, 622 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,280 but also economically, our community is 623 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,280 at risk. So, for all of those reasons, a 624 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,880 number of organizations came together. 625 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,840 If you go to our website, you will see 626 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600 who we are on there. We're uh like 627 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,440 researchers, engineers, uh environmental 628 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,200 organizations, um 629 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,800 a legal like West Coast Environmental 630 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Law Society, they provide legal legal 631 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,360 advice. Um 632 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,360 uh Farm We also have uh Farmland 633 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:39,840 Advantage, so we have like a 634 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,800 agricultural um 635 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,360 part 636 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:45,320 members part of our coalition. 637 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,720 So, we 638 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,040 >> question from Councillor Craig. Are you 639 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,680 a registered Well, you're not a charity, 640 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,760 but are you a an organization, a 641 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,880 society? 642 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,040 >> coalition. So, a coalition of different 643 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 organizations who are like Watershed 644 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Watch, who I work for, is a registered 645 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,720 charity. 646 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Um the the First Nations led emergency 647 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,120 planning uh secretariat is um is a What 648 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,480 are they? They're a nonprofit, they're 649 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,760 not a registered charity, but they're 650 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080 First Nations led and our work is very 651 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,400 much based in and supported by what they 652 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,360 do. So, all of the different um 653 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,120 organizations that are part that are in 654 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,560 the coalition, um we we are like we have 655 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560 our own charters and mandates and all of 656 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,560 that, but we come together for this 657 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,640 cause 658 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,600 and try 659 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,880 to bring the region together. 660 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,160 >> Okay. 661 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,160 >> I think that's the coalition. 662 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,920 >> So, you don't have a 663 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Do you have a budget? Do you have Is 664 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,680 everyone paid by their organization that 665 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720 represents? Sorry for these questions, 666 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,040 but 667 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,120 >> no, totally, it's fine. Um 668 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:49,120 So, yeah, so we I can speak for myself. 669 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,480 I do have a budget that pays for my time 670 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,800 that I apply for grants. Um like to 671 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,120 foundations, and that's at Watershed 672 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,320 Watch Salmon Society, but the coalition 673 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,920 to help with some of our studies I 674 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,480 mentioned ENR We have $1.8 million from 675 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 NRCan. We recently were awarded some 676 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,000 money through the through the Ministry 677 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,120 of Water, Land and Resource Stewardship 678 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,280 as well as the Ministry of Agriculture 679 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,280 because they want us to continue our 680 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,040 engagement with between farmers and 681 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,640 First Nations in the Valley. So, that's 682 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,840 some other work that we're doing. Um so, 683 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,800 you know, 684 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,240 little pots of money here and there to 685 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,040 help 686 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,920 us do our work. 687 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,240 >> Thank you. 688 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,160 Okay, I'll call the question. All those 689 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,200 it's been moved and seconded. All those 690 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,880 in favor? 691 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Opposed? I don't even see Oh, 692 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,280 uh motion's carried. Thank you. Thank 693 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,520 you very much for coming out and 694 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,630 presenting. 695 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,800 Okay, uh we have the minutes of the 696 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,240 regular council meeting held on July 697 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,240 7th, 2026. Recommendation that those uh 698 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,000 minutes be adopted as circulated. Could 699 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,960 I get someone to move that? Move, 700 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,240 second. Any discussion on those minutes? 701 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,520 See none. All those in favor? 702 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Opposed? 703 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,120 Carried. Any business arising from the 704 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,520 minutes? 705 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,560 No? Okay. We have a consent agenda. Um 706 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,800 we only have one item on the consent 707 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,840 agenda, the Orphan Dyke advocacy letter 708 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,150 to the province. 709 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Uh 710 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,440 Who uh who should I go to about 711 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,200 explaining this? 712 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Ms. Elder? 713 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,760 >> I It is just for a receipt. 714 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,880 >> Oh, it's just for a receipt. Okay. 715 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,710 Someone to to move receipt. 716 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,760 Move, second. Any discussion? 717 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,160 See none. All those in favor? 718 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Opposed? Carried. I didn't ask you. 719 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,600 Okay. We're on to uh 720 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,840 legislative reports 9A OCP bylaw 721 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,560 amendment 722-2025 722 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,280 infield development first and second 723 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,840 reading report dated July 17th, 2026 724 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,160 from Manager of Development Services 725 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,480 attached. 726 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,960 Mr. Joseph. 727 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,120 >> Uh excuse me before we begin, I will 728 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,000 recuse myself. 729 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,960 >> Okay. 730 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,920 >> We'll be We'll be doing infill, 731 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,000 hopefully, in the future. 732 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:22,830 >> Okay. Mr. Joseph. 733 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,480 » Okay, thank you, Mayor and Council. If 734 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,720 you can put the mic a little closer. 735 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,080 So, this report is to present updated 736 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,520 draft of the official community plan 737 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,200 amendment bylaw number 722-2025, 738 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,680 which proposes updates to OCP policy RLU 739 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,880 16, along with corresponding amendments 740 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,760 to the infill policy number 61 for 741 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,080 Council's consideration of first and 742 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,920 second reading, and to seek direction on 743 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,080 referring this amendment to external 744 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,360 agencies as required under section 475 745 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,920 and 476 of the Local Government Act. 746 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,920 So, back at the May 20th, uh, 2025 747 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,200 meeting, Council directed staff to 748 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,200 propose amendments to OCP policy RLU 16. 749 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,280 Staff returned in September 2026 with 750 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,720 proposed amendments, and Council passed 751 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920 a resolution directing staff to prepare 752 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,040 changes to both the infill policy, as 753 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,240 well, uh, RLU 16 and the infill policy. 754 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,600 At the May 19th meeting, Council 755 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,400 directed that the amendments be deferred 756 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,920 as it was identified that the proposed 757 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,880 new minimum lot size provision for 758 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,360 double fronting parcels would permit a 759 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,760 density greater than that what was 760 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,600 allowed under the most recent OCP 761 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,920 updates. 762 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,360 So, staff have further revised the draft 763 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,120 amendment bylaw and infill policy number 764 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,440 61 for Council consideration based on 765 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,720 this feedback, and have since removed 766 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,160 the density specific provision for 767 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,280 double fronting parcels altogether. 768 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,440 The previous inclusion for parcels 769 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,800 between 2800 and 3924 square meters to 770 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,000 be eligible for infill, where the parcel 771 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,680 double fronts onto two separate public 772 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,080 highways, would have equated to a 773 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,000 density of a of around 8.67 units per 774 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000 acre, which exceeds the OCP, uh, policy 775 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,920 RLU 17 associated with recent OCP 776 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760 amendments that have been established 777 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,360 that has established a maximum density 778 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,560 of six units per acre for infill lots. 779 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,200 Uh so, the standard minimum lot size 780 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,000 range of roughly 1 to 2 acres uh 781 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880 and the current maximum density of 2.04 782 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,280 parcels per acre per acre will continue 783 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,400 to be to apply to all infill parcels, 784 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,400 including those for double frontage. So, 785 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,880 staff recommend that any further review 786 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 of infill density uh be considered as 787 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,680 part of a future OCP update. 788 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,920 The amendment also proposes to remove 789 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,440 number three of RLU 16 for the 790 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,200 requirement that the entire parcel have 791 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600 an average slope of 20% or less. While 792 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240 keeping a number four of the policy for 793 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,480 the requirement that the building site 794 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,080 have an average grade of 20% or less. 795 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,400 This gives more flexibility for lots 796 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,200 with varied topography while maintaining 797 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960 control of the siting that keeps 798 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,400 development uh off steep slopes. It's 799 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,760 also worth noting that the steep slopes 800 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720 development permit area adopted through 801 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,400 the recent OCP amendments still applies 802 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080 to lots with an overall average grade of 803 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,120 20% and will require a development 804 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,680 permit and geotechnical assessments 805 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,280 where needed. 806 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,520 The amendment also provides additional 807 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,000 flexibility on frontage requirements 808 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,400 described in RLU 16 number six. So, 809 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,200 panhandle lots and lots using an access 810 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,680 easement are treated as comparable 811 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,760 scenarios, both requiring similar 812 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000 standards for emergency access. 813 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,920 The previous draft amendment had a 50-m 814 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,120 frontage requirement for panhandle lots 815 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,640 and this has since been revised down to 816 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,640 25 m matching what's proposed for the 817 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,520 lots utilizing an access easement 818 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,750 alternative. 819 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,440 In regards to updates to infill policy 820 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,600 number 61 section two requires that the access 821 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,480 strip of a panhandle not be included in 822 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080 the calculation of the minimum lot size. 823 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,560 Section four of the policy exempts 824 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 panhandle lots and lots utilizing access 825 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,840 easements uh from a 25-m frontage 826 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,360 requirement, but but requires that the 827 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,600 parcel width and depth be at least 25 m 828 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,960 in length to maintain green space 829 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000 between homes as illustrated in figure 830 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,040 three and four of the policy as attached 831 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,800 to the report, matching the intent of 832 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,920 the 25-m uh road frontage requirement. 833 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,000 Staff have also consulted with the 834 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,560 assessment Volunteer Fire Department on 835 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,160 emergency access requirements for these 836 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,080 lot configurations, which have informed 837 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,640 section 5 of the info policy number 61, 838 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,520 which requires panhandle lots and lots 839 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,120 using an access easement to meet a set 840 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,320 of criteria that will be enforced uh 841 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200 through covenants on title. 842 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680 These include a minimum of seven 7.5 m 843 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,800 access strip for panhandle lots, a 844 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,640 minimum 6 m wide paved access for 845 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,520 panhandle lots and access alternatives, use existing 846 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160 driveways where feasible, maximum of 12% 847 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 driveway grades or access grades, 848 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,120 uh adequate overhead clearance for fire 849 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,920 apparatus where an arborist report and 850 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,360 tree management plan may be required at 851 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,520 rezoning, 852 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,800 clear and visible address signage from 853 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,320 the highway, safe and accessible 854 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,480 emergency entry at all times, and only 855 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,560 one parcel that may be created uh 856 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,440 utilizing an access by easement. 857 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,920 So, a council approval of a waiver 858 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,200 permitting subdivision where the 859 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,840 frontage is less than 10% of the parcel 860 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,040 perimeter uh will be required uh when 861 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320 warranted for these lots. And also 862 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,000 referral to the fire chief may occur at 863 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240 any stage in the info process. 864 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,560 Finally, amendments to section 8 of the 865 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,080 policy proposes to update the list of 866 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,000 desirable community amenities since the 867 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,320 community hub is now complete and 868 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,440 upgrades to the Spirit Park are 869 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,120 underway, staff have replaced the 870 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,000 municipal hall with park enhancements 871 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320 and park acquisition as an active CAC 872 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,680 priority. 873 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,240 Staff has not proposed a change to the 874 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360 actual CAC target value at this time, 875 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,640 though council may direct staff to 876 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,520 commission a new land lift study or 877 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,960 adjust in the current figure based on 878 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,120 CPI indexing as recommended by the 879 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,840 previous report, uh which would bring it 880 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,030 to approximately $189,633. 881 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640 So, if council wants to pursue this uh 882 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,800 either um 883 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,360 two options, uh direction can be given 884 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,760 tonight along with uh the other 885 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,550 recommendations. 886 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,560 Local Government Act requires a 887 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,160 consultation with potentially affected 888 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,160 agencies before public hearing, so staff 889 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,520 recommend referral to the Miss Palaces 890 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Belcarra, Port Moody, School District 891 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,280 number 43, and the Musqueam, Squamish, 892 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,680 Tsleil-Waututh, and Kwikwetlem First 893 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Nations with all responses brought back 894 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,400 to council as part of a public hearing 895 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880 package. 896 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,080 Would you like me to read the 897 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,280 recommendation? 898 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,040 >> Sure. 899 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,440 >> So the recommendation is that Village of 900 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Bel Air Official Community Plan Bylaw 901 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Amendment number 722-2025 902 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,160 be given first and second reading and 903 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,320 that Bel Air Official Community Plan 904 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Amendment Bylaw number 722-2025 905 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,640 be referred to the following committees 906 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,920 as it relates to the mandate of each 907 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,000 committee. 908 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,240 And that in relation to Village of Bel 909 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,440 Air Official Community Plan Amendment 910 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Bylaw number 722-2025 911 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,640 amendments associated with the proposed 912 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,800 updates to policy RLU 16 and full 913 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,480 development council will provide the 914 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,720 following additional opportunities it 915 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,200 considers appropriate for consultation 916 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800 with persons, organizations, or 917 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,520 authorities it considers 918 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,200 will be affected including the 919 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,360 municipalities of Village of Bel Air and 920 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,320 the City of Port Moody, School District 921 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,400 number 43, and the Musqueam, Squamish, 922 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,760 Tsleil-Waututh, and Kwikwetlem First 923 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,560 Nations. And that all information 924 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840 resulting from the Section 475 and 476 925 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,040 referral 926 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,360 and received by the Village will be 927 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,760 brought forward to a council as part of 928 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,520 a public hearing package and that a 929 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,800 public hearing be scheduled following 930 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,040 the referral process. Thank you. 931 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,160 >> Good. Can I get someone to move that? 932 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Move seconded. Seconded. I'll open up 933 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120 for discussion. 934 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,310 Councilor Richardson. 935 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Okay. So, 936 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,160 when I 937 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,400 read through this, 938 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200 we just did an OCP amendment. We're now 939 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,360 doing another one and I'm 940 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480 worried we're bumping into an election 941 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,480 and maybe it's not the right thing to 942 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,400 do. So, if you just kind of 943 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,040 qualify times. If this is passed, when 944 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,750 would the public hearing be? 945 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,320 » I think the next council meeting is in 946 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,680 September. 947 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,400 I think in the 20-something, 22nd. 948 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,000 Should be a sufficient time for a 949 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,120 referral process to take place as well 950 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,320 as to schedule a public hearing. So, 951 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,960 that would be probably when the public 952 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,040 hearing would take place. 953 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,800 >> Okay. And then after that, it would be 954 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,840 third reading. 955 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,640 >> At the same meeting, potentially the 956 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,680 >> But then you have to do a fourth 957 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,200 reading. 958 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,440 >> Correct. October. 959 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,360 >> Which would 960 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,830 >> Or 961 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,720 Oh, third and adopt because of it's OCP. 962 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,840 So, you could potentially do the 963 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,400 adoption at 964 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,040 third reading as well. So, September 965 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,240 meeting. 966 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,320 >> Third and fourth. 967 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,840 Okay, cuz it's banging into the election 968 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200 and I'm 969 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,000 for some reason it it's I'm a bit leery 970 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,840 on it. With that said, 971 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,880 um 972 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,960 I'm good with like the pan handles. I'm 973 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,840 good on the 20%, you know, for the 974 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,680 building area only. 975 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Um 976 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240 good on the size of the double roaded 977 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,600 lots. 978 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:17,640 I'm I'm struggling with the manifestations and maneuvering to 979 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,480 allow the you know, 0.89 or the 8.9 980 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880 versus the six in the OCP. 981 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,520 And I was wondering if that cannot be 982 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,760 done or held done better in zoning. 983 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640 So, like right now we say all lots 1/3 984 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,360 of an acre can have a carriage house a 985 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,240 suite and a building. 986 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080 But we could change that if you're a 987 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,840 double side infill, you don't get that. 988 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080 And then it cleans it up a little bit 989 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240 and this becomes more about enabling and 990 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040 less about massaging the OCP. And I 991 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,040 don't know if that's possible or not, 992 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,240 but my I'm leaning more that direction. 993 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,760 >> Yeah, so to the chair, I think that 994 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,040 you're running up against one other 995 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,320 issue and that's the 2.0 996 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,840 uh for uh 997 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,400 lots per acre. Um so, that I guess for 998 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,720 the double frontage purposes, you could 999 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,000 have two lots uh sort of uh there, but 1000 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,159 we've since removed that um 1001 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:16,120 sort of uh section for the RLU 16 policy 1002 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,720 under previous direction um 1003 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:20,399 because it it just exceeds the dense the 1004 00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:23,320 current density of the OCP. So, you 1005 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,879 could potentially include it an 1006 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:28,560 additional zoning bylaw or a zone for 1007 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,120 the specific lots 1008 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,360 where you wouldn't allow for um let's 1009 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,120 say all all three of the units per lot. 1010 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,679 So then maybe if it's two, then you 1011 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,480 would still be in line with the OCP that 1012 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,679 was currently passed. 1013 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,760 >> Cuz that's my concern. How much of this 1014 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080 is to enable 1015 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,720 uh more flexible infill 1016 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:50,000 and how much of this is to change the 1017 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,480 current OCP to allow the potential exit 1018 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,159 extra density on like a 0.8 acre lot 1019 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,720 that's divided into with three units on 1020 00:34:58,720 --> 00:34:59,480 each side? 1021 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,640 >> Yeah, so through the chair, for tonight, 1022 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,000 the current bylaw that's in front of you 1023 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,800 for consideration does not consider 1024 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000 additional density at all. That's since 1025 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,200 been striked out since the last meeting. 1026 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,000 So the double frontage lot is not under 1027 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,920 consideration at this time. 1028 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,200 >> Okay. 1029 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,640 So then I'm 1030 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,000 confused. 1031 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,480 Cuz I read a whole bunch of this stuff 1032 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,720 is about 1033 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:25,640 adjusting the 0.6 the six units per acre 1034 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360 density in the OCP to allow something 1035 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,360 more. Am I Did I misread that? 1036 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,640 >> Yeah, no, through the chair, this was it 1037 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,640 was just a clarification segment. Yeah. 1038 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,000 >> Okay, and then my last question is it an issue at all? Like say we boot 1039 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000 it down the path to the next council, 1040 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,120 are there like 10 people lined up that 1041 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,720 say, "I want this today?" Do we have 1042 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,120 anybody or can it be left until like 1043 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,160 we're going to redo the OCP in the next 1044 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080 term is my understanding. So can it be 1045 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,560 wait till then? 1046 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,560 >> Yeah, I mean, we have had active 1047 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,880 interest numerous active interest in in 1048 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,680 sort of these type of configurations. 1049 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,720 Uh we do have one active application in 1050 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,400 regards to 20% average slope. However, 1051 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,520 you know, those considerations uh 1052 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,840 they also have to conform to the active 1053 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360 policy and of course the option to defer 1054 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,360 it to it all OCP update is is always a 1055 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,480 possibility. 1056 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,030 >> Okay. 1057 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Couple of uh questions I have for you. 1058 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,790 Um 1059 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,760 you know, uh 1060 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,600 again, when I struck the task force back 1061 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,880 in 2018, I've done infill. That's why 1062 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960 I've no longer recused myself. I'm 1063 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,720 beyond that. Um 1064 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,680 you know, infill was to provide gentle 1065 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,320 densification, 1066 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,640 no new infrastructure, 1067 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,760 not on a steep slope, and it was to 1068 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,160 retain the semi 1069 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,160 semi-rural feel of the village. Very, specific. And I think um 1070 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,240 the uh 1071 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,960 councillors uh 1072 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,360 Webber and uh 1073 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,440 and Trolbridge actually did a really 1074 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,320 good job was they set up a group and and 1075 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,920 met several times and and discussed 1076 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,000 this. I've had a couple people who 1077 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000 couldn't be here tonight, but are pretty 1078 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,400 concerned about these new changes, and 1079 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,360 the one being the panhandle. 1080 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,320 They said, "Are you aware that most of 1081 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,880 the panhandles are strata roads? And so, 1082 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,040 what you're doing is you're literally 1083 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,400 putting a neighbor against other 1084 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,960 neighbors on the strata road to allow 1085 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,560 them access to that to that panhandle." 1086 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,520 Number two is will this also allow lots 1087 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,920 that are very deep allow them to put a 1088 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,360 panhandle in to be able to to develop 1089 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,800 the rear of the property, which again is 1090 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,480 going to take away from the semi-rural 1091 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,320 feel that the initial infill was was 1092 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,600 proposed to do. So, I am not in favor of 1093 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,680 this at all because I think it opens up 1094 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,880 Pandora's Box and to creativity that 1095 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,120 could be had with people putting 1096 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,320 panhandles. And then I know I think it 1097 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,600 was in the mid mid-2015, 2016, um we 1098 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,400 actually had a moratorium about adding 1099 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,840 panhandles, and I think this will 1100 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,600 actually add panhandles. So, I do have 1101 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,480 some concern people are not pleased 1102 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,840 about this about the about the ability 1103 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,320 of using panhandles to facilitate their 1104 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,400 frontage, um 1105 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,720 because they're using a panhandle to 1106 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,280 access their property right now, and 1107 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,040 they're strata, and so there's a big 1108 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,880 legal concern about that that I don't 1109 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960 know has been taken into consideration 1110 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,840 in this aspect. And then 1111 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,480 >> Oh, sorry. Go on. 1112 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,760 >> Yeah, and then furthermore, you know, 1113 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,080 they when we when we did the initial, we 1114 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,800 I think there was a lot of parameters 1115 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,000 that were established out of IE the 1116 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600 Ravenswood neighborhood with the 25 m 1117 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,360 and that and again this get we're 1118 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,560 starting to get away from that. The the 1119 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,800 slope aspect I think is 1120 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,960 you know, I've certainly I have no issue 1121 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,000 from going a little bit higher to a 1122 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,040 higher percentage on the on the on the 1123 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,960 grade if it if it's not going to add any 1124 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,800 extra and it meets the driveway 1125 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920 requirements regarding regarding grade 1126 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,480 and stuff like that but the the 1127 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,520 panhandle I I I don't think should be 1128 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,710 an option used in infill at all. So. 1129 00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:58,360 Go ahead. 1130 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,720 >> Yeah, so I just want to address a couple 1131 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,760 of things. So the panhandle I was for 1132 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,480 the panhandles would would essentially 1133 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080 just be that property's driveway. So 1134 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,680 there's no strata cuz there's no sharing 1135 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600 on a it's just for that specific real 1136 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,160 estate entity 1137 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,080 using that panhandle as part of one 1138 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,520 singular parcel just like any other 1139 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,160 parcel would use a their their driveway. 1140 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,480 >> The concern when I read this and the 1141 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,960 concern that people brought up to my 1142 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,600 attention is where there's a panhandle 1143 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,560 that is shared by two or three homes 1144 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960 those that is a strata road and it's 1145 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160 owned by each one of the owners. 1146 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,920 And therefore that you're putting owner 1147 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000 against owner to be able to allow him to 1148 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,920 add another title to that another access 1149 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,080 point to that where it's only to 1150 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,800 facilitate currently the three homes or 1151 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,440 two homes or whatever it is right now. 1152 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,400 So there was some big concerns about 1153 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,320 that. 1154 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,920 >> Yeah, so I know there is an option to 1155 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,880 have sort of a shared interest and and 1156 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,720 sometimes an access easement that's a 1157 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,400 specific sort of 1158 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,640 I would say access alternative that 1159 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,760 could be sought through a subdivision. 1160 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,160 However, as it's proposed it's just for 1161 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,680 the singular access for the current 1162 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,560 parcel under the application. 1163 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,040 >> So people could then create their own 1164 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080 panhandle if they had their own property 1165 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,400 to be able to access the rear of the 1166 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,160 property. 1167 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,040 >> Yeah, I mean like I guess easements 1168 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960 between property owners can can be 1169 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,280 established at any rate. 1170 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,160 >> Yeah, okay. I saw a Webberink had his 1171 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,440 hand up. 1172 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,600 Go ahead. 1173 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,440 >> Thank you, Mayor McKeown. 1174 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840 I have to agree with Mayor McKeown and 1175 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,720 Councillor Richardson. I think this is 1176 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,240 all a little too close to the election. 1177 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,960 This could all get turned around after 1178 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,520 the election. 1179 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,680 So, 1180 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,520 I would I would not be in favor of 1181 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,160 moving forward with this at the time. 1182 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,920 >> Okay. Did I see Councillor Trobridge Did 1183 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,960 you have your hand up or you just 1184 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,360 adjusting your 1185 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,160 Go ahead. 1186 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,040 >> No, sorry. 1187 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,640 It was my hand up. I I'm of the same 1188 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,000 mind. I mean, 1189 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,720 I like everything uh 1190 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,080 I'm comfortable with everything, I 1191 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,200 should say, in terms of the slope 1192 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,560 applying to just the building envelope, 1193 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,040 things like that make a lot of sense. 1194 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,400 But, if it's all packaged together with 1195 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,480 panhandles, etc., I prefer to defer it. 1196 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,440 >> Good. 1197 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Okay, so we have a motion on the table 1198 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,680 that's moved and seconded. So, to defer it would then simply be to 1199 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,640 wait to be voted against it. So, all 1200 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,440 those in favor of 1201 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,760 Oh, sorry, Councillor Richardson, do you 1202 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,080 have one more comment? 1203 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,080 >> Yes, one comment and one suggestion. 1204 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,200 So, 1205 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,080 my read of this is existing panhandle 1206 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,800 lots are not considered in this. Is that 1207 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,200 true? 1208 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Like, if you have a lot that's narrower 1209 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000 than 20 50 m, 1210 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040 you could potentially 1211 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,040 put something behind your thing and 1212 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,760 create an access that would look like a 1213 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,000 panhandle, but current panhandle lots, 1214 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,520 like the rear part of a 1215 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,360 any lot that has a panhandle currently, 1216 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,360 this does not apply to. Correct? 1217 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,800 >> Yeah, so as the bylaw is currently 1218 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000 worded, 50-m frontage is a requirement 1219 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,920 to be eligible for infill. Okay. So, 1220 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,440 that unless the panhandle is 50 m wide, 1221 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,320 which I doubt. 1222 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,560 >> Okay, fair enough. So, then 1223 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200 you know, I would make the amendment 1224 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,320 that 1225 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,640 uh be given first second reading and 1226 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,440 then Ambleside be referred to the 1227 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,680 following No, not committees. 1228 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,040 That it be amended so that the only 1229 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,360 thing considered is that 20% on building 1230 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,600 area. 1231 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,280 And then all the other stuff gets passed 1232 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,560 down the pipe. 1233 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,800 Because the my understanding in talking 1234 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,400 with one person that has the 20% issue, 1235 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,480 like 20.05 or something. That the lot's 1236 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,080 a bit of a V 1237 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,440 and they're not planning to build on the 1238 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,120 V, which is a creek. But that, if you 1239 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,960 add up the slope, the absolute value, 1240 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,640 makes a very steep lot, even though the 1241 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560 lot's not that steep. So, you know, 1242 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,240 mathematically how it goes. So, I don't 1243 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:57,760 know if we can 1244 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,520 do that and just limit it to the one 1245 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,200 thing. 1246 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,680 >> So, so right now we have a motion on the 1247 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,640 table that encompasses all everything. 1248 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,000 We could do an amendment which would 1249 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 take it down to But we'd have to vote 1250 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,840 those other ones down. 1251 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,600 >> Okay, fair enough. 1252 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,880 >> So, I think it's best that we just 1253 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,320 simply vote it down currently. Or if 1254 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,240 that's the if that's what the appetite 1255 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,920 of council is, and then we could come 1256 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,560 back with another one which is just and 1257 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,280 describe a little bit more cuz I'd like 1258 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,280 to get a little bit more details on the 1259 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,760 grade and why it was actually even 1260 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,840 initially set up as well at 20% or where 1261 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,640 that number kind of came from. I think 1262 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,920 it was kind of arbitrarily kind of taken 1263 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,040 out of there in our in our one of our 1264 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,040 GSL maps. And that's so, I'm going to 1265 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040 call the question. All those in favor of 1266 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160 what's on voting this in favor right 1267 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,160 now. 1268 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,470 Opposed? 1269 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,360 Motion is defeated. Okay. So, we'll come 1270 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,160 back with something then. 1271 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,160 Okay. 1272 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,840 Move on to We're now on to 9B, zoning 1273 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,600 amendment bylaw classification of 1274 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,480 basement exemption. 1275 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,200 >> of order here. So, if we defeated option 1276 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,400 one 1277 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,840 how do we get option two onto the table? 1278 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,200 >> We we debated all of that and I said to 1279 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,640 Mr. Joseph to bring back the the height 1280 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560 requirement if possible and then we can 1281 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,000 talk about that. 1282 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,320 Go ahead, Ms. Helwig. 1283 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,720 >> Thank you. Through the chair, I think 1284 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,360 that that would be challenging to also 1285 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,480 be bringing back additional information 1286 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,960 um given that there's only two meetings 1287 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200 uh until the end of the council term. 1288 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,680 There's a meeting on September 22nd and 1289 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,640 then another one in October. We could 1290 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,880 certainly report back uh in 1291 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,840 the September meeting, but then to 1292 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,400 schedule a public hearing and bring it 1293 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,400 forward to adoption would be very 1294 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,240 challenging um in that time frame. 1295 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,160 >> To change that 1296 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,440 threshold, the percentage of the grade 1297 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,840 percentage, 1298 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,440 is that a full OCP review? 1299 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,320 >> To the chair, no. This I mean, it's been 1300 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,680 considered and reviewed, which is part 1301 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,800 of this package. However, um as it 1302 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,440 essentially it would just be to strike 1303 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,440 out number three of RLU RLU 16 from the bylaw. That's where the bylaw would 1304 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,440 read. 1305 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,840 >> But as I said, I would like to 1306 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,560 understand where that came from and and 1307 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,120 the ramifications of that as well. 1308 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,440 >> Yeah, I'm 1309 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,920 so 1310 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,680 20% is is the sort of the number that 1311 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,040 was chosen for steep slopes generally. 1312 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,280 Um I don't have the exact history, but I 1313 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,200 imagine that sort of uh through 1314 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,880 discussions probably you know, with the 1315 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,320 village that they decided that infill 1316 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,720 shouldn't be on steep slopes and if 1317 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,800 steep slopes equals 20%, then the 1318 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,480 average grade percentage applies to all. 1319 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,120 >> So, Ms. Ms. Helwig or Esson, 1320 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,160 that minor adjustment to go from 20 to 1321 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,480 say 25%, 1322 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,320 is that could that be done over two 1323 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,560 meetings? 1324 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,680 >> Is it public hearing? 1325 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,400 >> It's a 1326 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480 imma- it's a fairly small change in that 1327 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,840 regard. So, we're not changing the 1328 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,640 intent of the bylaw. We're not changing 1329 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,400 very much of it. 1330 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,800 >> still would be through the chair. It 1331 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,760 still would be a bylaw amendment. 1332 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,360 >> Right. 1333 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,440 >> So that could be done in two meetings. 1334 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,000 >> Yeah. 1335 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,960 >> Um being the first meeting would be 1336 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,840 September 22nd. Your second meeting in 1337 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,600 October 1338 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,440 I want to say 1339 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,640 seven-ish. Um however, that would also 1340 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,200 be the public hearing night and there 1341 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,360 would not be um time for referrals to uh 1342 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,120 any other municipalities, school 1343 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,040 district, First Nations, or any 1344 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,680 committees. If that's council's desire 1345 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,160 to just do that bylaw amendment, that 1346 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,200 could be 1347 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,760 >> So would 1348 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,680 >> technically achievable in two meetings. 1349 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160 >> I just wanted to you know, um 1350 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:40,840 it 1351 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,800 by it increasing the threshold doesn't 1352 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,320 necessarily sort of address what we're doing, the intent of it. The 1353 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,160 intent is where there is a building site 1354 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,600 that is less than 20% that we're not up 1355 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,560 holding it up because 1356 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,000 10% is drastically steep and now has 1357 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,440 contributed to the overall average 1358 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,720 density. That could be 25 or that could 1359 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,520 be 30 or 40. But it would what's on the 1360 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,360 ground is the intent is to just allow 1361 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,440 for the areas that are completely not in 1362 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,280 steep slope areas to be developed under 1363 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,710 development permit guidelines. 1364 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,960 » So I think it's best My personal view is 1365 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,040 that we would just leave leave this as 1366 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,920 be because again, we have a discussion 1367 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,360 that's been an ongoing discussion about 1368 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,720 basement heights, which are all about 1369 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,560 slope as well, which is coming up with 1370 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,120 the next item at this point in time. So 1371 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,120 >> You both through the chair. I don't know 1372 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,040 if they're completely related because 1373 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600 you know, development on 30%, 40% is 1374 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680 >> Yeah, it's it's dealing with slope uh 1375 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,840 slope development. So 1376 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,480 >> Yeah, I understand. It's just not a OCP 1377 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:39,960 issue. 1378 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,120 >> Yeah. Yeah. 1379 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,640 >> Hello. 1380 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,280 >> Councilor Trowbridge. 1381 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,600 >> Yeah, so 1382 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,520 um 1383 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,120 I don't quite maybe don't understand, 1384 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,400 but I don't see the relationship to a 1385 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,360 slope discussion. My understanding 1386 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,640 is that removal of 16 RUL or RLU 1387 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:08,760 was to allow if if a if a property had a steep slope on it, 1388 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,560 but it was not in the building envelope, 1389 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,600 then we would allow the building in the 1390 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,000 building envelope. It It It's really 1391 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520 more about where the slope is, isn't it, 1392 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,240 George? 1393 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,600 >> Mr. Chair, that's correct, yeah. So 1394 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,360 >> Yeah, so I would be fine 1395 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,080 uh with with an amended motion going 1396 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,120 forward with that component without the 1397 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,280 rest, which is, I think, what Councillor 1398 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,400 Richardson suggested. 1399 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,880 >> So, we voted 1400 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,920 Procedurally, we voted down the motion 1401 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,360 that was on the table, which included 1402 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,240 everything which Mr. Joseph put on the 1403 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:43,360 thing. So, it would have to be a new 1404 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,080 motion forward that if somebody wants to 1405 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,560 put it forward that we would we would 1406 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,880 entertain. 1407 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,080 >> I'll put that motion forward that we 1408 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,750 entertain the one segment. 1409 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,400 » I'd second that. 1410 00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,800 >> What What do we put What is the motion 1411 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,880 that you're seconding? 1412 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,200 >> The My understanding the motion is, 1413 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,120 which we're going to get from our 1414 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,600 corporate officer in a very exacting and 1415 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,120 precise way very shortly, 1416 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,080 is that 1417 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,920 on lots where the or the average 1418 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,080 gradient may be more than 20% if there 1419 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:24,480 is a building area less than 20% that would be allowed in infill. And And 1420 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,520 the reason I would support that is like 1421 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,320 here's two examples. You have a lot, 1422 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,800 it's an acre, 1423 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,800 half of it's dead flat, 1424 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,040 half of it's at 40%. 1425 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,000 Okay? That would not be allowed. 1426 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,560 Half of it's dead flat, the other half 1427 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,280 is at 30%, that would be allowed. And I 1428 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,280 really don't see the difference between 1429 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,800 those two lots other than the steepness 1430 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,600 of the embankment down to the creek or 1431 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,800 whatever it happens to be. So, I I'm all 1432 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,480 in favor of if you have a building area 1433 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,840 that's suitable, you get to build. 1434 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,400 >> Okay, so do we have a motion on 1435 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,520 >> Mr. Chair, I can read out a motion. Um 1436 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:11,710 so, I suppose where's the original? 1437 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:12,800 So, the recommendation is that the 1438 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,920 Village of Anmore Official Community 1439 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,400 Plan Amendment Bylaw number 722-2025 1440 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,480 as amended. 1441 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,240 >> No, it's not amended. We didn't amend 1442 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,760 that motion was voted down. 1443 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,400 So, there's a new motion. 1444 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,760 >> No, but if we're going to amend what's 1445 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,320 on currently. 1446 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:40,350 Well, we could. 1447 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,910 I don't either. 1448 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:54,110 » Can we just take the one section and put it as a motion? 1449 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,680 » Um 1450 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,160 I need um Counselor Richardson, through 1451 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,120 the chair, if you could please give me a 1452 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,120 complete sentence, 1453 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,430 that would be very helpful. 1454 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,430 Okay. 1455 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,120 Yep. 1456 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,630 >> Your mic's not on. 1457 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,960 » Back to the beginning. I don't know the 1458 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,760 exact wording, but that the 1459 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,880 existing bylaw or the policy 61 be 1460 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,720 amended so that on 1461 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,520 that you're allowed to do infill on lots 1462 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,120 where a building area is available less 1463 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:40,950 than 20%. 1464 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,735 Is Is that sentence enough? 1465 00:51:44,735 --> 00:51:46,120 >> [laughter] 1466 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,010 >> I I know. 1467 00:51:48,010 --> 00:51:48,840 >> [snorts] 1468 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,720 >> Cuz cuz this will drive to the public 1469 00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,200 hearing, right? 1470 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,680 If we give it first and second, public 1471 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,320 hearing is next, so it should be pretty 1472 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,320 clear what we're saying. 1473 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,080 >> Absolutely. 1474 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,360 >> Okay, can I 1475 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,790 Do you want me to try something? 1476 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,880 here 1477 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,920 that hopefully we captures it? So, the 1478 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,840 motion would read that 1479 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,400 um where a building site is equal or 1480 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,120 less than the 20% slope, infill 1481 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,360 properties would be accepted under our 1482 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:22,790 current policy. 1483 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,830 » Perfect. 1484 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,560 » So, through the chair and just um 1485 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,840 chatting with Mr. Joseph here, 1486 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,800 we could potentially 1487 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,280 amend 1488 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,000 um 1489 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,310 722-2025 1490 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120 that is included in the agenda package 1491 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,000 in a way that we could give it two 1492 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,640 readings this evening if Mr. Squizzero 1493 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,440 Cara 1494 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,440 is 1495 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,080 uh all right with that. Uh Mr. Joseph 1496 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,120 has the sections of that bylaw, which is 1497 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,960 on 20 page 25 and 26 of your agenda that 1498 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,440 could be amended, um given two readings, 1499 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,600 and then we could move forward 1500 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,840 that way this evening and go to public 1501 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,000 hearing in September. 1502 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:13,120 >> Um so, just to clarify, um updating the sentence on the 1503 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,080 um 1504 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,840 item three 1505 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,520 on page 25, is that what I'm looking at? 1506 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,440 Mr. Joseph. 1507 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,720 >> Yeah, that's correct, yeah. 1508 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:24,160 >> Okay. 1509 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,600 Um 1510 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,760 we can we can potentially say that the 1511 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,840 um 1512 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,400 the bylaw section 1513 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,960 two uh item three be amended, and then 1514 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,000 whatever the amendment needs to be, that 1515 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,960 we can add 1516 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,760 the amendment and uh go forward with 1517 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,910 that. 1518 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,400 So, 1519 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,040 >> Councilor Richardson, 1520 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,510 if I read 722-2025, 1521 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,200 it actually be able to identify building 1522 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,560 site sites that are equal to less than 1523 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,560 20% slope. It's actually already in 1524 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,320 there. It doesn't have to be amended. 1525 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,320 >> We would need to amend to delete the 1526 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,360 parts of the bylaw that you do not wish 1527 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,760 to include. So, um if you will indulge 1528 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,080 for a moment, Mr. Joseph can read that 1529 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,160 out for council. 1530 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:24,150 >> Okay. 1531 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:31,150 It was a hot day out there today. 1532 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,920 This doesn't talk about pan handles. 1533 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,590 Thank you all for your patience. 1534 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,800 Yeah, that's right. Um 1535 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,600 so, I'll just start from here. 1536 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,070 We don't need to do anything with it. 1537 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,400 Okay, so the amendments uh would be to 1538 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,800 number two of the bylaw. 1539 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,240 Uh that the Village of Anmore Official 1540 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:57,080 Community Plan Designation Bylaw number 1541 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,800 532-2014 1542 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,160 be amended under chapter 4, Land Use, as 1543 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,600 follows. 1544 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,880 So, delete policy RLU 16 in its entirety and replace it with the 1545 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,080 following. 1546 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,840 And uh I'll just read out the sections. 1547 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,880 So, policy RLU 16, and this is uh what 1548 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,760 it is already currently written for this 1549 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,480 intro paragraph. The village supports 1550 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,600 infill development and subsequent 1551 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,280 creation of new residences that maintain 1552 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,800 the existing semi-rural nature of 1553 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,400 Anmore. Infill development is the 1554 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,920 creation of new parcels within the 1555 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,240 existing developed area of the Village 1556 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,000 of Anmore that are serviced by existing 1557 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,400 infrastructure. The intent of infill 1558 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,840 development is that it will enhance and 1559 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,440 not take away from the look and feel of 1560 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,200 the neighborhood. It is expected that 1561 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,000 any new infill homes will blend into the 1562 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,480 existing neighborhood, minimize the 1563 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,240 disturbance to natural environment, and 1564 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,680 will adhere to the same setbacks as the 1565 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,200 existing neighborhood. Infill 1566 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,480 development should be guided by infill 1567 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,760 development policy that aligns with 1568 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,200 specific requirements that the community 1569 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,240 expects expects from infill development 1570 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,120 to ensure that it meets the intent of 1571 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,440 this policy. The maximum density allowed 1572 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,760 for infill development is 2.04 parcels 1573 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,160 per acre. 1574 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,080 Parcels that are eligible for 1575 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,360 consideration under this policy must not 1576 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,440 have been created through previous 1577 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,720 comprehensive development plan, 1578 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:07,600 be between 300 3 3,925 square meters and 1579 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:13,590 8,900 8,094 square meters in area, 1580 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,440 be able to identify building sites that 1581 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,550 are equal to or greater than 20% slope, 1582 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,520 not require the extension, expansion, 1583 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,120 extension or expansion of any village 1584 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,720 road or water infrastructure, 1585 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:28,640 and have at least 50 m frontage on a 1586 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,280 public highway, 1587 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,880 and have been in existence for at least 1588 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,680 5 years as of the date of the 1589 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:39,830 application. 1590 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,800 » Yes. 1591 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,880 We're So, for those people listening, 1592 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,680 we're striking off the back half of item 1593 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,520 five. 1594 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,550 >> Correct. 1595 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,480 » Okay. 1596 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,400 >> I move it. 1597 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,640 >> Move it. Could I get someone to second 1598 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,000 it? 1599 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,000 >> Second. 1600 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,070 Open up for discussion. 1601 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,960 Any discussion? 1602 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,040 Seeing none, I'll call the question. 1603 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,950 >> All those in favor? 1604 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,040 Opposed? Motion's carried. 1605 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,400 >> Okay. 1606 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,360 >> And that's ordered through the chair. 1607 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,960 I'll just read out the rest of the 1608 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,360 recommendations for the referrals that 1609 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,680 are required, 1610 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,960 as well as public hearing. 1611 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,000 >> Oh, what what's now required for public 1612 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,920 hearing? 1613 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,280 >> Yes. 1614 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,160 >> Yeah, that cuz yeah, yeah, it was the 1615 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,200 package. 1616 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,280 >> Um so, following that uh and that uh and 1617 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,120 more official community plan amendment 1618 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,720 bylaw number 722-2025 be referred to the 1619 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,080 following committees as it relates to 1620 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,840 the mandate of each committee. 1621 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,240 And that in relation to the Village of 1622 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,480 Anmore Official Community Plan Amendment 1623 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,680 Bylaw number 722-2025, 1624 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,200 amendments associated with the proposed 1625 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,080 updates to policy R only 16 infill 1626 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,280 development, Council will provide the 1627 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,400 following additional opportunities it 1628 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,920 considers appropriate for consultation 1629 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,680 with persons, organizations, or 1630 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,840 authorities it considers will be 1631 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,760 affected, including the municipalities 1632 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,640 of the Village of Belcarra and the City 1633 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,320 of Port Moody, School District number 1634 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,080 43, Musqueam, Squamish, Tsleil-Waututh, 1635 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,480 and Kwikwetlem First Nations, and that a 1636 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,840 public hearing be scheduled following 1637 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,880 the referral process. 1638 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,760 >> Do we need to move that in 1639 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,520 Okay, [clears throat] can someone to 1640 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,280 move that? Second? I'll 1641 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,560 call the question. All those in favor? 1642 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,720 Carried. 1643 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,000 Do we have more to add? 1644 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,080 >> Did you want to add any committees for 1645 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,560 >> No. 1646 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,920 >> Okay. 1647 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,960 >> We Yeah. 1648 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,670 >> That's right. 1649 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,510 » Okay. So, can we move on to uh 9B? 1650 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:40,630 Are we good? 1651 00:58:40,640 --> 00:59:18,150 Oh, right. Oh, you can get 1652 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,600 Okay, we're now on to uh 9B Zoning 1653 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,800 Amendment Bylaw classification on 1654 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,720 basement exemption report dated July 1655 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,720 17th, 2020 from Manager of Development 1656 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,880 Services attached. Mr. Joseph. 1657 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,000 >> Thank you. 1658 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,120 So, the purpose of this report is to 1659 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,640 present bylaw number 745-2026, 1660 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,240 a zoning amendment bylaw that clarifies 1661 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,720 how the basement exemption applies under 1662 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,400 section 5.25 of the zoning bylaw, along 1663 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,840 with the related housekeeping correction 1664 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,560 to section 5.6. So, at the May 5th 1665 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,920 regular council meeting, staff brought 1666 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,160 forward proposed amendments to the 1667 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,440 section 5.25, the basement exemption 1668 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,040 provision. Council deferred that 1669 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,440 discussion and asked staff to come back 1670 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,960 with visual impact modeling to see what 1671 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,720 the current regulations allow in terms 1672 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,520 of building massing. Staff returned on 1673 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,200 the June 12th with a report that 1674 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,960 included visual representations of 1675 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,680 what's permitted under the under the 1676 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,480 existing rule and identified the 1677 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,920 specific sections proposed to be 1678 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,880 clarified. At that meeting, council 1679 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,120 passed a motion directing staff to 1680 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,840 initiate amendments to section 5.25 and 1681 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,120 section 5.6. Additional sections are 1682 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,280 being proposed to provide greater 1683 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,640 clarity in relation to the basement 1684 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:17,760 exemption. 1685 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,120 So, the current formula in section 5.25 1686 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,680 from 1687 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,720 letters A through D that determines how 1688 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,320 much basement floor area is exempt from 1689 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,640 the floor area ratio calculation will 1690 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,440 remain the same. What the amendment does 1691 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,160 is add three new sections, E, F, and G, 1692 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,640 that address how the exemption applies 1693 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,400 across the building. Uh because the 1694 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,960 current wording may incentivize numerous 1695 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,480 exposed basement floors that would be 1696 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,480 eligible for 100% basement exemption, 1697 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,600 which would increase the apparent 1698 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,200 massing of the building. 1699 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,640 There is currently no limit on how many 1700 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,960 stories in a single building can qualify for the full basement exemption. 1701 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,720 So, on slope lots, final finished grade 1702 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,200 and building design can produce two or 1703 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,480 more stories that each meet the 1704 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,160 definition of a basement, some of them 1705 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,800 partially exposed, which can make a 1706 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,200 building look like it's four to six 1707 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,600 stories tall from the street level. 1708 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,400 Subsection E fixes this by limiting the 1709 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,160 exemption to no more than one uppermost 1710 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,520 basement story per building. 1711 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,080 Sub-basement stories below that would 1712 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,800 still be permitted, but they would count 1713 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,800 towards the lot's maximum floor area 1714 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,920 ratio like any other floor area. 1715 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,240 The second consideration is height of a 1716 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,920 story. As currently worded, there's no 1717 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,720 cap on the floor-to-floor height that 1718 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,080 the exempt story uh would apply to, 1719 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,360 which means a single basement story 1720 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,040 could be built well beyond the typical 1721 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,160 story height and still only count count 1722 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,040 as one story for the purposes of 1723 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,080 subsection E. So, subsection F caps the 1724 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,480 exempt story at 3.66 m, which is 1/3 of 1725 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,120 our 111 m maximum building height, 1726 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,600 essentially the height of one story 1727 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,800 within a standard three-story envelope. 1728 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,000 However, staff have also included 1729 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,720 subsection G. It provides a full 100% 1730 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,520 exemption for stories below the exempt 1731 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,320 basement story, but only where that 1732 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,880 story is completely buried entirely 1733 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,360 below finished grade at every point 1734 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,230 around the building's perimeter. 1735 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,480 Staff recognize that the story with no 1736 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,040 exterior exposure at all doesn't 1737 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,360 contribute to the parent massing of the 1738 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,920 building, so staff have included the 1739 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,320 section to differentiate between a 1740 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,240 partially exposed stories. 1741 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,280 Finally, staff are proposing a 1742 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,520 housekeeping amendment to section 5.6.1, 1743 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,880 which clarifies how building height is 1744 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,600 measured, so that it's based on a lower 1745 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,240 of the average natural grade or average 1746 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,920 finished grade. Right now, that section 1747 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,200 doesn't quite line up with section 1748 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,120 5.5.2, 1749 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,840 which already uses that standard, and 1750 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,720 this brings the two into alignment, and 1751 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:23,920 it also reflects the current staff 1752 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,240 practice. 1753 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,480 So, the recommendation is that council 1754 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,680 give first and second reading to 1755 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,040 Ambleside Amendment Bylaw number 1756 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,760 745-2026 1757 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,600 related to section 5.25 basement 1758 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,840 exemption and section 5.6 building and 1759 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,320 structure height, and that a public 1760 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,720 hearing be scheduled for Bylaw 745-2026. 1761 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,840 Thank you. 1762 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,000 >> Could I get someone to move that? 1763 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,630 Move, second, open up for discussion. 1764 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,800 Anybody? Uh okay, I I I have a couple of 1765 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,000 questions. And so, 1766 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,520 I can't support this if it doesn't at 1767 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,800 least offer a 9-ft ceiling height for 1768 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320 the basement. I don't have a problem 1769 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,560 with basements going deeper 1770 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,120 um than that, but I just wanted to 1771 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,080 clarify cuz it's this is kind of compli- 1772 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,600 I saw in here there was a calculation of 1773 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,160 2.75 m for the basement floor, but most 1774 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,120 basements that I'm going into right now 1775 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,120 are minimum 9-ft finished. And I I can't 1776 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,880 do an 8-ft finish because again, we're 1777 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,120 also supposed to be promoting suites in 1778 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,200 the in these in these buildings as well. 1779 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,520 So, if you can you confirm what the 1780 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,560 finished height would be or 1781 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,600 presume 1782 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,720 you could give me the rough height as 1783 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,840 well. It would probably be It would have 1784 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,880 to be about 10 ft then. 1785 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,520 >> Yeah, so the full story is 12 ft. 1786 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:35,760 >> Okay. 1787 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,800 >> So, it's 3.66 in the amendment bylaws. 1788 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,040 >> So, it says on page seven 1789 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,280 no greater than 2.75 m. 1790 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,320 Which is 9 ft. 1791 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,680 On page seven or sorry, 46 of your 1792 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,640 report if there's a color picture of the 1793 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,920 house up above it. 1794 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,040 >> Yeah, so I think what you're referring 1795 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,520 to is the previous report where I 1796 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,280 referenced what West Vancouver's height 1797 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,160 limit is for exempted story. What What 1798 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,160 we're proposing is 1/3 of our current 1799 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,680 height, which is 3.66. 1800 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,200 >> 3.6 m. So, can you tell me what is 3 3.6 1801 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:08,440 in 1802 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,320 >> 12 ft. 1803 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,040 So, basement height would be 12 1804 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,640 ft. Could go down 1805 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,600 >> from floor to floor. 1806 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,960 >> Right. And it can go down into the 1807 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,040 ground to make that 12 ft. 1808 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,320 >> This only for the exempted portion is 12 1809 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,960 ft. Anything that's completely buried 1810 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,600 there's no height there's no height. 1811 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,080 cap. 1812 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:28,320 >> Okay. 1813 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,800 >> There's a full exemption. There's no 1814 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:30,680 height cap. 1815 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,790 >> Okay. 1816 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,400 Do I have 1817 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,120 Councillor Do you 1818 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,960 >> Just to clarify, this is the 3.66 m is 1819 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,640 only on the additional floor on the 1820 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,360 exempted part when you're like building 1821 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,160 on a hillside. 1822 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,070 >> Correct. Correct. 1823 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,760 Just on a hillside. 1824 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,960 >> No, it it doesn't apply. This is just 1825 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,400 primarily where the problem would exist. 1826 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,400 >> Throughout, right? Yeah. Cuz you can on 1827 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,680 a on a 1828 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,920 slope or fairly fairly level lot, you 1829 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,880 can still go down. 1830 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,720 As you want, right? 1831 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,360 >> Yeah, so they you could. 1832 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,040 >> Yeah, and I guess one of my questions 1833 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,400 that I had as well was on I guess it's the color one here which is page 1834 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,520 six or 45. Just about where 1835 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,080 average grade is and how that's 1836 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,310 calculated. 1837 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,240 » Yes, so we mean the average grade is is 1838 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,240 >> If you could use that photo there just 1839 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,120 to kind of give me I 1840 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:30,880 an understanding 1841 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,880 >> Which figure? Sorry. 1842 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,280 >> The the bottom one. 1843 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,960 >> Three? Figure three? 1844 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,760 >> I guess it's the color probably one, 1845 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,560 yeah. 1846 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,120 >> Yeah, so it's it's where the perimeter 1847 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,200 of the building meets the ground. And so 1848 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,240 if it's going up a slope, that perimeter 1849 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,160 goes up the slope with it. So if it's on 1850 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,400 a fairly, you know, uh 1851 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,640 even path, then the average grade 1852 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,440 becomes the halfway number of where the perimeter meets the ground. 1853 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,510 >> Okay. 1854 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,640 That was all the questions. So you've 1855 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,200 confirmed that the the basement there is 1856 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,920 not a limit of of an 8-point, which is 1857 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,960 great. So any other questions before I 1858 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,800 call the questions? 1859 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,270 Seeing none, all those in favor? 1860 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,440 Carried unanimously. Thank you, Mr. 1861 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,200 Joseph. 1862 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,240 >> Thank you. 1863 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,280 >> Okay. 1864 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,640 Uh we'll now move on to 1865 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,360 uh 12A Committee of the Whole meeting. 1866 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,600 The following recreation was made. Uh 1867 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,350 Mr. Boyd. 1868 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,200 » Thank [clears throat] you, Worship. 1869 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,480 Uh so the The purpose of this report is 1870 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,040 to uh follows the introduction of the 1871 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,120 development cost charges by the law, 1872 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,320 which uh was uh 1873 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,000 shown to council at Committee of the 1874 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,960 Whole. It Uh this report provides a 1875 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,480 brief summary of that introduction, 1876 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,680 presents the proposed 2026 DCC 1877 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,440 uh rate schedule for the village, and it 1878 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,200 seeks council's direction to prepare a 1879 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,000 draft DCC bylaw. 1880 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,840 So a quick background. At the Committee 1881 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,560 of the Whole, staff introduced the DCC 1882 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,080 framework and the case for updating the 1883 01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,840 villages and charges. And just to 1884 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,360 summarize that that is that the DCCs are 1885 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,400 one-time charge for new development 1886 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,960 authorized in the part 14 division 19 of 1887 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,600 the LGA. 1888 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,600 Uh that allows us to recover the growth 1889 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,240 related share of capital costs of 1890 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,800 infrastructure required to service new 1891 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,560 development. 1892 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,520 The village's existing DCC bylaw dates 1893 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,520 to the 20 2005 and no longer reflects 1894 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,000 current construction costs, the village 1895 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,400 capital planning, or anticipated growth. 1896 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,160 Provincial best practice is to update 1897 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,160 the TCC program every 3 to 5 years. 1898 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,400 Rates are established through a defined 1899 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,520 methodology, projecting growth, 1900 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,480 identifying the growth related capital 1901 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:36,520 projects, 1902 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,040 and costs, assigning each a benefit 1903 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,920 allocation between existing and new 1904 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,800 development, applying a municipal assist 1905 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,400 factor, and dividing the recoverable 1906 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,360 costs across the expected growth units. 1907 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,120 Staff worked through the recreation tool 1908 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,680 with council committee of the whole, 1909 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,280 illustrating how the inputs 1910 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,160 input assumptions produce the proposed 1911 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,440 rates. A comparison with the neighboring 1912 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,440 municipalities was provided for context, 1913 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,600 and staff outlined the process ahead, uh 1914 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,800 preparation of draft bylaw, 1915 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,040 consultation, readings, approval by 1916 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,000 inspector of municipalities, and then 1917 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,800 adoption. 1918 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,400 This report is just to advance this to 1919 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,600 council uh for their consideration. 1920 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:14,040 >> Good. 1921 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,560 >> So, as we can see in the rate table 1922 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,680 below, uh these were developed based on 1923 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,720 the conversations that we had at the 1924 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,600 committee of the whole. Um 1925 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,279 Uh so, the residential rates are based 1926 01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:27,080 on occupancy assumptions of one suite 1927 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,640 per single family house, adding an 1928 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,600 incremental 1/2 person per lot, 1929 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,680 consistent with the current small-scale 1930 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,120 multi-use uh housing provision. This was 1931 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,040 a conversation that we had at the 1932 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,200 committee of the whole on whether we 1933 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,040 should assume that there was going to be 1934 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,600 more uptake or not of uh suites within 1935 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,359 the village. Um staff could take this 1936 01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:48,560 away as well and and continue to look at 1937 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,120 past uh building permit applications to 1938 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,520 determine what the occupancy rate of 1939 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,920 suites have been in the village over the 1940 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,720 past 5 years. We currently haven't done 1941 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,799 that. 1942 01:08:58,799 --> 01:08:59,359 Uh 1943 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:02,160 okay, next one. Uh sundry sewer is is 1944 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,799 not applicable cuz we don't have 1945 01:09:03,799 --> 01:09:05,839 sanitary sewers within the villages a 1946 01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:07,520 service. We currently only have it 1947 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,080 within AGP. 1948 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,560 And we don't anticipate building any 1949 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,920 sewers of our own, so therefore there 1950 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,400 are no projects. 1951 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,480 Um, an important note was regarding 1952 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:18,720 protective services. Although recent 1953 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,240 provincial legislation added fire and 1954 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,120 police facilities as eligible DCC 1955 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,880 categories, fire protection in the 1956 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,359 village is delivered through the Sasamat 1957 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:27,160 fire protection service, a Metro 1958 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,160 Vancouver regional district function. 1959 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,720 And policing capital was not a cost 1960 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,120 borne by the directly by the village. 1961 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,839 therefore has no eligible 1962 01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:36,080 protective services capital cost on 1963 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,799 which to base a charge. As noted above, 1964 01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:40,080 the 1965 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,480 fire protection in the village is 1966 01:09:41,480 --> 01:09:42,920 delivered through fire Sasamat fire 1967 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,680 protection service, a Metro Vancouver 1968 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,200 regional district function, and the 1969 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,799 associated capital assets, including the 1970 01:09:47,799 --> 01:09:48,880 fire hall, 1971 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,440 are regional assets funded through the 1972 01:09:50,440 --> 01:09:52,080 service rather than by the village 1973 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,160 directly. For this reason, the 1974 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,800 growth-related capital cost for the 1975 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,040 anticipated fire hall upgrades cannot be 1976 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,320 recovered through the village's own 1977 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,160 development cost charges. It is 1978 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,320 nonetheless appropriate for the 1979 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,480 development to contribute its fair share 1980 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,440 towards these services. So, I therefore 1981 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,120 recommend the village formally request 1982 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,520 that Metro Vancouver consider 1983 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,920 establishing a DCC for Sasamat fire 1984 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,360 protection service to recover the 1985 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,320 growth-related portion of the fire hall 1986 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,520 upgrades cost consistent with the newly 1987 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:17,880 eligible fire protection service 1988 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,480 category under the LGA. Any such, uh, 1989 01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,760 charges would be developed, adopted, and 1990 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,160 administered by Metro Vancouver through 1991 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,440 its own bylaw and cost allocation 1992 01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:28,360 process in consultation with the Village 1993 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,440 of Anmore and Belcarra as being 1994 01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:32,640 participating members of the service and 1995 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,200 would apply in addition to the village's 1996 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,160 DCC rather than through them. So, we 1997 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,920 also, uh, prior, sorry, following the 1998 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,680 publication of this report, we've also 1999 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,240 received word back 2000 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,360 from the province to clarify this note. 2001 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,880 And I'll just read, uh, one particular 2002 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,280 note from within their their email that 2003 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,880 was, and I quote, "Our interpretation of 2004 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,200 capital cost is that the capital asset 2005 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,000 be owned or controlled by the local 2006 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,080 government such that it is capitalized 2007 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,280 on the audited financial statements of 2008 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,640 the local government. So, 2009 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,200 based on on that coming back from the 2010 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,680 province, they kind of substantiated 2011 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,520 what we thought in the past that that 2012 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,280 because we don't actually own the asset, 2013 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,160 we're not allowed to collect DCC. Again, 2014 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,360 it's important to note that we we do 2015 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,080 have a mechanism to collect it, but Amur 2016 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,880 itself cannot collect it directly based 2017 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,360 on legislation. 2018 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,760 Uh okay, land use categories and zoning. 2019 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,080 Uh the rate schedule presents charges 2020 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,960 for a full range of land use categories. 2021 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,640 So, the DCC framework is completely and 2022 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,320 internally consistent. Some of these 2023 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,640 categories do not currently permit or or 2024 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,720 contemplated under the villages zone and 2025 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,120 bylaw or OCP. The inclusion in the 2026 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,840 schedule is for the calculation and 2027 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,360 information purposes only. It does not 2028 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,520 imply or confer any development 2029 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,120 entitlement, zoning permissions, or 2030 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,000 rights to develop these uses in the 2031 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,680 village until the zone and bylaw is 2032 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,000 amended to permit a given use. The 2033 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,960 corresponding DCC rate has no 2034 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,640 application, and the value set in the 2035 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,560 rates now is that should council of the 2036 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,760 future consider 2037 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,560 enabling any of these uses, a defensible 2038 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,400 charge would be already be established 2039 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,000 and showing that any such development 2040 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,280 contributes fair share towards 2041 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,880 growth-related infrastructure. 2042 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,000 And then lastly, uh park acquisition 2043 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,040 charges. Uh the proposed schedule does 2044 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,080 not include a park acquisition DCC. 2045 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,040 While park acquisition is an eligible 2046 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,880 category under the Local Government Act, 2047 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,840 a defensible parks DCC must be grounded 2048 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,600 in adopted parkland 2049 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,560 provision standard, typically expressed 2050 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,920 as an amount of parkland per capita or 2051 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,160 per dwelling, from which the quan- the 2052 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,120 quantity and cost of the land need to be 2053 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,280 need to serve growth can be determined. 2054 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,520 The village does not currently have a 2055 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,280 policy establishing a park provision 2056 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,160 standard. In its absence, there is no 2057 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,160 defensible basis on which to determine 2058 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,560 the per capita land requirement or the 2059 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,200 associated acquisition cost, and the 2060 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,840 parks acquisition charge has therefore 2061 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,360 been excluded at this time. Should 2062 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,280 council wish to pursue parkland 2063 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,440 acquisition funding through DCC in in in 2064 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:52,560 the future, staff would first recommend 2065 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,880 adoption of the park acquisition policy 2066 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,440 standard and would then allow a park DCC 2067 01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,920 to be calculated and incorporated into 2068 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:02,000 the bylaw amendment. 2069 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,920 Then finally, financial implications. 2070 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,240 The the the financial implication 2071 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,040 obviously there's there's none related 2072 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,200 to staff direct the the 2073 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,520 uh to the village directly. The 2074 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,160 However, there would obviously be a cost 2075 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,120 association with managing the DCC's work 2076 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,840 and once adopted the DCC charges are 2077 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,640 expected to materially improve the 2078 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,800 village's ability to fund growth related 2079 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,840 water drainage and road infrastructure 2080 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,280 from development rather than from 2081 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,040 general tax base. 2082 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,040 Lastly, next steps 2083 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,000 from staff recommendations would be to 2084 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,440 prepare the draft development cost 2085 01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:38,120 charges bylaw incorporating the proposed 2086 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,880 rate schedule and supporting background 2087 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,440 study, consult with the development 2088 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,120 community and other interested parties 2089 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,840 consistent with the provincial 2090 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,160 guidelines, request Metro Vancouver 2091 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,960 consider establishing a development cost 2092 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,520 charge for Semiahmoo fire protection 2093 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,560 services to recover the growth related 2094 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,760 cost of the firehall upgrades, and bring 2095 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,280 the draft bylaw to council for 2096 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,470 consideration. 2097 01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:02,320 Okay, I can read the resolution if 2098 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,160 you wish you wish to. 2099 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:04,760 >> Sure. 2100 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,760 >> Okay, that staff be directed to bring 2101 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,480 the draft development cost charges bylaw 2102 01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:11,600 forward to council for consideration and 2103 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,000 that staff be directed to undertake 2104 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,280 consultation with the development 2105 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,280 community and other interested parties 2106 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,360 on the proposed development cost charges 2107 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,920 and that staff be directed to contact 2108 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,600 Metro Vancouver in relation to 2109 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,560 consideration of the establishing a 2110 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,920 development cost charge bylaw for 2111 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,880 Semiahmoo fire protection services. 2112 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,720 >> Good. Can I get someone to move that? 2113 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,440 Moved and second open up for some 2114 01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:33,880 discussion. 2115 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,560 Mr. Boyd, just for clarity, I just 2116 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,120 wanted to who did you talk to at the 2117 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,960 province regarding the Metro Vancouver's 2118 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,840 role with the Semiahmoo volunteer fire 2119 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,360 department so I can follow up with them. 2120 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:49,110 >> One second. 2121 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,400 » Or Ms. Elwork, who did it that 2122 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,160 >> I've got it. It's uh Ministry of Housing 2123 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,320 and Municipal Affairs uh the financial 2124 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,480 office and uh 2125 01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:56,560 >> And is there a Do you have a person 2126 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,080 there? 2127 01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,000 >> Uh the person that sent to us was Jenny 2128 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,720 Chang. 2129 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,040 >> Could I get a copy of that, please? 2130 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,680 >> I can circulate it to all of council. 2131 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:05,920 >> Perfect. Thanks. 2132 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,560 Um the reason I say that, Mr. Boyd, is 2133 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,160 that we um 2134 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,520 I was concerned about this because 2135 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,000 again, there is such confusion when it 2136 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,680 comes to the fire department um and the 2137 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,200 real clarity of it is is that the uh 2138 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:18,960 Metro Vancouver 2139 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,760 simply we pay them a service to operate 2140 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,280 the fire department and the assets are 2141 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,320 actually owned by each of the 2142 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,360 municipalities. And they've given a 2143 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,120 legal ruling saying that we should be 2144 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,640 collecting the DCCs and it should be 2145 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,480 part of this program. So I'd I'd 2146 01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:32,400 certainly like to to flush that out a 2147 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,920 little bit because I know it is somewhat 2148 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,760 confusing. So but anyway, it's been uh 2149 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,360 I'll I'll follow up cuz I Metro 2150 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:39,760 Vancouver had some interest there. Ms. 2151 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,400 Alaric. 2152 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,840 >> Sorry, Mayor McKeown. I may have 2153 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,360 misunderstood. Um did you say who gave a 2154 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,960 legal ruling regarding this? 2155 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,800 >> No, that opinion that we that I 2156 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,800 distributed to staff and council was 2157 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,590 there from a legal aspect. 2158 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,320 From I think it was Mr. Brant, Brant 2159 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:58,760 Smith or whatever sent that out this 2160 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,360 morning. 2161 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,440 So 2162 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:03,400 anyway, open up any 2163 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,320 Councilor Craig. 2164 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,920 >> Did we have a 2165 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,560 Why was it sent to Metro? Did we have a 2166 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,520 motion to send it to them? I thought 2167 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,800 that was done after. Yeah, as a 2168 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,200 >> As a fire trustee, I sent it there cuz I 2169 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,760 was sure unclear of it why it was being 2170 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,520 uh separated here. So 2171 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,520 >> Okay. 2172 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,030 Councilor Richardson. 2173 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,640 » Okay, I'm trying to wrap my head around 2174 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,280 all that. 2175 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,840 So in summary, cuz it was a bit hard to 2176 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,720 hear. 2177 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,920 If the village owns the asset, we can 2178 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,920 charge or plans to own the asset, we can 2179 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,080 charge DCCs. 2180 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,800 Is that correct? 2181 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,560 >> So yeah, it has to be on our financial. 2182 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,680 That's right. 2183 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,200 >> Sorry, through the chair, it must be 2184 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,000 owned or controlled by the local 2185 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,200 government such that it is capitalized 2186 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,440 on the audited financial statements of 2187 01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:55,720 the local government, which in this case 2188 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,160 it is not. 2189 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,920 >> Okay, so ju- just just on that cuz when 2190 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,760 I read the letter from Metro, 2191 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,000 I didn't hear a clear opinion that we 2192 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,400 could collect DCCs on them. I thought 2193 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,320 our plan was that we were going to ask 2194 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,920 Metro, since it's their asset, to 2195 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,440 collect DCCs like they do for 2196 01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:20,120 uh water and sewer directly to the 2197 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:21,720 village. So, Metro Vancouver would 2198 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,760 charge the DCCs. Is that correct? 2199 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,800 >> Mitch would collect DCCs for the water 2200 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,200 that is outside of the village that 2201 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,840 comes to the village. 2202 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,560 >> Yeah, but they they do collect for those 2203 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,440 services. 2204 01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:37,400 So, Metro Vancouver we haven't got an 2205 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,680 answer back from Metro Vancouver that 2206 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,000 they can they can collect. 2207 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,000 >> Through the chair, we have not formally 2208 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,560 reached out to Metro Vancouver. Um Mayor 2209 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,840 McKeown, uh I understand reached out to 2210 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,880 Metro Vancouver, but we're waiting for 2211 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,080 direction from council. And as part of 2212 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,760 the process, we would be reaching out to 2213 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,200 Metro Vancouver. Um as we indicated, 2214 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,040 we've already reached out and got 2215 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,920 response back from the province. And 2216 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,120 additionally, we will be um 2217 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,120 seeking legal advice through the village 2218 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,120 solicitor who will be uh preparing the 2219 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,080 bylaw for us, and we have had some 2220 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,880 preliminary discussion with them on 2221 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,880 this, and will continue to explore 2222 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,200 options on um 2223 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,440 how we may collect DCCs. 2224 01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:20,560 >> Okay. And then my last question is, 2225 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,880 like if we were planning to build a 2226 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,160 water reservoir in 20 years to support 2227 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,920 our growth, we could collect DCCs on 2228 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,160 that project, could we not? 2229 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:33,920 Mr. Boyd? 2230 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,680 >> Mr. Boyd's shaking his head as I think 2231 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:36,720 yes. 2232 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:41,360 >> Yeah, correct. It is provided it it was being built in relation to the 2233 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,600 growth within the village. So So, 2234 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,480 typically that would be the answer to 2235 01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:45,160 that. 2236 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,200 >> So, therefore, if we got commitment from 2237 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,400 Metro Vancouver that once it was all 2238 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,960 paid off, they would transfer 2239 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,640 the fire hall to Anmore, 2240 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,320 then that would be the same thing. We're 2241 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,480 just going through some other path, are 2242 01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:01,680 we not? 2243 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,240 >> I suppose the answer would be 2244 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,520 >> No, concurrently. 2245 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,880 >> Sorry, to share the um assets that are 2246 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,360 already developed, we can't post a DCC 2247 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,080 after the fact. So, the assets are 2248 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,160 currently held under Metro's financial 2249 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,960 statements. As such, that's why we we 2250 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,400 would propose to go through Metro's DCC 2251 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,790 bylaw. 2252 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,360 » I I What's the question, Councillor 2253 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,640 Richardson? Could we transfer the 2254 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,640 ownership for the fire hall to the 2255 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,000 village? 2256 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,520 >> Yeah, Lena kind of answered it. It's 2257 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:35,760 like 2258 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:36,760 it We already [clears throat] The 2259 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,200 asset's already there, but we just get 2260 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,960 it transferred at the end doesn't count 2261 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,360 is what I heard. But, you know, I was at 2262 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,280 the Well, we could build it for 20 years 2263 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,960 and then maybe it would, but 2264 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,080 anyway. 2265 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,725 But, you know, 2266 01:19:50,725 --> 01:19:51,320 >> [laughter] 2267 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,320 >> it's it is a bit of a convoluted mess 2268 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,160 cuz we as trustees we went through this 2269 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,360 in the fact if we were to ever to 2270 01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,000 separate, how do the assets get divided? 2271 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,000 And so, it is a very it's not an easy easy ask whatsoever. So, I've got 2272 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,230 uh Councillor Trowbridge. 2273 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,960 » Thank you. Yeah, my understanding of the 2274 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,840 motion that's in front of us though is 2275 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,960 that staff is going to explore every 2276 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:19,440 opportunity to recover DCCs in whatever 2277 01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:23,040 route uh through whatever legal process. 2278 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,040 So, 2279 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,960 uh I'm in favor of just moving this 2280 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,600 forward and letting staff do their job. 2281 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,920 >> Good. Um 2282 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,040 any other questions or anything else? I had one, Mr. Boyd, regarding the park 2283 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,640 DCC. 2284 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,480 Um, I read through the parks master plan 2285 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:42,160 and from page one on, it talks about us 2286 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,920 implementing a park DCC. And I know 2287 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,480 Metro Vancouver, we've recently done 2288 01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:50,840 that in the last year and it was very well received because again, as 2289 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,640 you're creating and in this case, there 2290 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,000 seems to be possibly an incentive for 2291 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,120 more multi-family because of the costing 2292 01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,320 of of the DCCs being proposed. The green 2293 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:01,760 space that's going to be required in 2294 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,760 that. So, is is that something that 2295 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,040 could be added on to this DCC cuz it's 2296 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,640 referenced quite heavily in the fact in 2297 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,400 the parks master plan, which I guess was 2298 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:15,070 done sort of 2015-2016. 2299 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,600 » For sure, yeah. I mean, the the village 2300 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:22,240 have the right to to acquire DCCs for parkland acquisition. 2301 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,800 Again, the policy just needs to be 2302 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,640 written mainly to it. So, 2303 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:26,920 I wouldn't recommend attaching it to 2304 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,440 this DCC because it's going to take a 2305 01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:30,440 little bit of time consultation to get 2306 01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:32,560 through that unless it's council's will. 2307 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,680 But, most certainly, you you can write a 2308 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,880 DCC for parkland. 2309 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,880 >> Yeah, and I just I also wanted to just 2310 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,760 add that, you know, Metro Vancouver, 2311 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,080 this Friday, we're actually going to 2312 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,560 reduce DCCs that Metro Vancouver's 2313 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,040 employ 2314 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,400 instigated because of the fact of the 2315 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,040 and it has to go to the register of uh 2316 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,120 of municipalities of Victoria and there 2317 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,760 seems to be this big push in reducing 2318 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,960 costs to be able to produce housing. So, 2319 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,440 we're not sure whether this will get 2320 01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:04,320 approved, but we'll we'll certainly put 2321 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,480 it forward, but I'm looking forward to 2322 01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:07,000 some to having some more discussion. 2323 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,240 It's a significant raise to what we're 2324 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:10,600 currently paying, which is currently 2325 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,400 about $10,700 2326 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,480 per lot that's being created and taking 2327 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:17,320 it up to 23,000. It's It's significant. 2328 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,160 And then, when you throw on, you know, 2329 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,720 the Metro portion, TransLink, you know, 2330 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,320 we're at $32,000 for the creation of a 2331 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,120 lot, 33,042 2332 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:33,750 for the creation of a lot, which is significant. So. 2333 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,480 Good. Okay, no further questions. I'll 2334 01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:38,520 call the question. All those in favor? 2335 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,520 Opposed? Carried unanimously. Thank you, 2336 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:41,920 Mr. Boyd. 2337 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:42,720 >> Thank you. 2338 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,160 >> Uh okay, now we'll move on to the 2339 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,640 mayor's report. I don't really have a 2340 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,520 lot. Uh please be cautious. The water uh 2341 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,440 restrictions went down to phase or to 2342 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:52,760 level two. 2343 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,080 So, you are allowed to water shrubs uh 2344 01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,000 and hand watering. Allowed to wash your 2345 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,120 car. 2346 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,760 Um fire ban is in. It's I know that a 2347 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,760 new fire just opened up in the Fraser 2348 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,240 Valley tonight. It's it's a very, very 2349 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:07,800 precarious time right now. We need to 2350 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:08,920 get through the next couple weeks. 2351 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:09,920 Hopefully, I think there's going to be 2352 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,760 some rain due on Saturday and Sunday. 2353 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,160 And I think that's about it. I'll move 2354 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,800 on counselor's reports. Counselor 2355 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,920 Richardson. 2356 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,280 >> Okay, three things. One for the public 2357 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,600 and I think 2358 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,480 Miss Elrick might cover this is election 2359 01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,040 dates 2360 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:33,950 uh for the information sessions. 2361 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,840 » Through the chair, is that for candidate 2362 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:37,720 information 2363 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:38,240 >> Yes. 2364 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:38,760 >> sessions? 2365 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,720 Um yes, he stole my thunder. 2366 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,040 >> Okay, so I'll let you 2367 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,600 go ahead. 2368 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,253 >> go ahead. 2369 01:23:43,253 --> 01:23:43,400 >> [laughter] 2370 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:44,280 >> Okay, go. 2371 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,040 >> No, I 2372 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,560 happy to give you the dates um 2373 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,080 >> No, no, just save it. I don't need to. 2374 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,600 Um the other thing was mentioned 2375 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,760 earlier, this was the last meeting for 2376 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,600 public input until after the election. 2377 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,400 So, what public question period? Say 2378 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,160 your peace or forever hold your more. 2379 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,480 Um 2380 01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:03,600 on garbage days, it's interesting to me 2381 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,280 because the bears go around and tip 2382 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,840 garbage over. 2383 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,160 And unfortunately, or fortunately, it 2384 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,680 lets me see what people are throwing 2385 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,400 out. 2386 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,000 And I have to say I'm a bit appalled on 2387 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,240 the recyclables and compostables that 2388 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,320 are in garbage bins. I don't know if 2389 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:22,840 there's anything we can do about it, but 2390 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:28,080 glass bottles, clear plastic, films, etc., etc., etc. And it 2391 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,840 drives me nuts. So, um I just want to 2392 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,080 say 2393 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,800 it doesn't take a lot of time. Please 2394 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,520 put more care in your garbage and 2395 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,040 recyclables. 2396 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,000 And then the last thing is I bumped into 2397 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,760 Jay Sharp a few times at my office, 2398 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,080 which is 2399 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,560 the leftmost seat at Starbucks at 1:30 2400 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,120 most days. 2401 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,680 And we've had chats with other residents 2402 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,840 about the fire halls. 2403 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,080 And I suggested to Mr. Sharp that he 2404 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,480 could do a town hall or something cuz it 2405 01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:01,280 he brings the temperature down of people 2406 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:02,880 who are quite upset. 2407 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,920 And he informed me that he cannot do 2408 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,240 that without the approval of the 2409 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:08,640 trustees. 2410 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,400 And really council has this council has 2411 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,800 no say 2412 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,000 on 2413 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,400 the fire thing other than through the 2414 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,840 trustees. So, I make my request to the 2415 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,480 Anmore trustees, could you request or 2416 01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:23,160 give permission to Mr. Sharp to do a 2417 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,520 town hall 2418 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,360 on the fire halls? That would be greatly 2419 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,120 appreciated by the residents at large. 2420 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:29,880 Thank you. 2421 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,200 >> I I actually believe there's going to be 2422 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,520 an RFP coming out. There'll be an 2423 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,240 actually a special meeting for the for 2424 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,080 the handy note of the RFP for the design 2425 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,000 and everything. So, that would be a 2426 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,440 perfect opportunity to to get people out 2427 01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:42,320 to ask questions. So, 2428 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:43,880 to me. 2429 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,320 Okay. Uh Chief Administrative Report. 2430 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,040 >> Thank you. 2431 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,200 The election candidate 2432 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,960 um sessions. Um and these are the 2433 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,440 sessions that are uh administered by our 2434 01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:01,440 Chief Election Officer, Lori Darkis, 2435 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:04,160 um where potential candidates can find 2436 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,960 out uh about the election process, about 2437 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:08,560 uh 2438 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,240 what uh 2439 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,200 being an elected official uh looks like, 2440 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,080 and and responsibilities related to 2441 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,320 that. So, we are looking at holding two 2442 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,880 info sessions this time. Um all of this 2443 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,760 information will be up on the village 2444 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,960 website in the coming weeks as well, but 2445 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,680 the dates for the info sessions will be 2446 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,040 in the evening August 27th and September 2447 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,440 2nd 2448 01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:33,720 uh right now. And uh so, please check 2449 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,640 for that and other information and 2450 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,360 updates on the election uh page, which 2451 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,200 is on the Village of Anmore website, and 2452 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,040 we will be uh more targeted uh 2453 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,760 communication coming out on that. Um and 2454 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,000 then additionally further to um the 2455 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,480 recommendation this evening, uh watch 2456 01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:53,080 for um 2457 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,880 early September. We expect that we will 2458 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,040 be having uh an information session um 2459 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,800 firstly for the development community, 2460 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,040 but then secondly um for the broader 2461 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,320 public on uh development cost charges 2462 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,040 and uh what exactly they are and uh how 2463 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,040 they're determined and and projects and 2464 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,280 whatnot um just so that the general 2465 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:18,200 public uh understands the uh DCCs and 2466 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,560 the bylaw before it comes back to 2467 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,760 council uh hopefully later in September. 2468 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:24,600 That's it for me. 2469 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,120 >> Good. Thank you. I've got uh some 2470 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,840 general correspondence letter dated from 2471 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,200 the chair of the regional district of 2472 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,840 the Central Okanagan and town of Lake 2473 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,600 Country. Public input and question 2474 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,760 period. This is the last one, so 2475 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,040 I thought you said it was the Is it the 2476 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,960 last one? It is, yeah. So, please name and address, please. 2477 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,720 >> Is this working? 2478 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:45,040 >> You're 2479 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,640 >> product 1815 East Road. I'm just 2480 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,040 wondering if the municipality proper, I 2481 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:52,120 mean, 2482 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,560 uh the village is exempt from the water 2483 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,040 restrictions. I see, for example, circle 2484 01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,800 hoses out here and 2485 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,200 uh or something that's making the plants 2486 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,480 grow quite well. And I was just 2487 01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:08,440 wondering if the village is uh exempt from water 2488 01:28:08,440 --> 01:28:09,840 restrictions 2489 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,360 uh when we were 2490 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:12,520 uh obeying them. 2491 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,280 >> Well, the water restrictions now are 2492 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,080 down back to a level two, so you are 2493 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,120 allowed to hand water shrubs and that, 2494 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:18,560 yeah. 2495 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,920 >> But, water is we uh 2496 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,720 the residents were restricted from using 2497 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,080 soaker hoses. 2498 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,960 >> I don't know how the vegetation out here 2499 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:27,960 grew out 2500 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:28,840 quite 2501 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,280 quickly and must have been fed by water. 2502 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,520 I'm just wondering if there's exemptions 2503 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,960 for the village and not for residents. 2504 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,600 >> Just for clarity, are you talking about 2505 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,600 the ferns that came up from the dirt 2506 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,680 area in the front? 2507 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,600 >> and also at the steps here. 2508 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:44,920 >> Uh I don't know about the steps, but 2509 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,840 those darned ferns, 2510 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:50,360 they they come up no matter what you do. 2511 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,120 So, in the front around like on the east 2512 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,240 Sunny Side Road section, all the green 2513 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:56,880 that came up through the newly laid in 2514 01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,880 soil, I don't think that was watered at 2515 01:28:58,880 --> 01:28:59,920 all. 2516 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:00,880 >> Okay, Joe. 2517 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,440 And I was just curious. Thank you. 2518 01:29:02,440 --> 01:29:12,150 >> Thank you. 2519 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,600 » Hi, this is Mike 2555 Sunny Side Road. 2520 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,040 Um 2521 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,480 I don't know if I'm allowed to how I'm 2522 01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,840 going to be able to ask these questions. 2523 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,680 Do I do it through you? 2524 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:22,840 >> Yeah. 2525 01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,520 >> Because it's a contractor and it's also 2526 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,480 a member of the staff 2527 01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:30,280 that I have these questions for. 2528 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,920 >> Can you send me an email about it or 2529 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,320 >> Uh 2530 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,880 >> Can you generalize what what it 2531 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,240 >> Okay. Well, 2532 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:38,760 >> Uh we don't want anybody's name 2533 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,080 mentioned or anything like that. 2534 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,360 >> No, I'm not Well, May 5th, I uh we had 2535 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,280 the council meeting. After the meeting, 2536 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,560 we talked about the drainage of the 2537 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,200 Spirit Park. After the meeting, I met 2538 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,440 with the city ca- the municipal 2539 01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:56,000 contractor in charge of that and we set 2540 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,760 up for a time, 2:00 the next day to 2541 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,400 go and and meet over there. Um I was 2542 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,120 there for more than half an hour, 2543 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,480 gave up because he never showed up. So, 2544 01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:12,280 May 6th, the next day or that day, um I 2545 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:16,000 phoned city hall when I went in and I I 2546 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,720 asked the receptionist or whoever 2547 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,200 answered the phone, um what do I do? Can 2548 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,880 I have his number? She said, "No, I'll 2549 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,320 leave a posted note for him. I will get 2550 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:29,360 him to contact you and also email him." 2551 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:34,000 So, I emailed him. That was on May 6th. 2552 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,600 June 23rd, I I also left my phone 2553 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,920 number. June 23rd, I sent another email. 2554 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,360 This time I CC'd one of the staff. I'm 2555 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,240 not allowed to say which staff because 2556 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,200 we're not allowed to say names. Uh that 2557 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,840 was June 23rd. I emailed the staff 2558 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,840 saying, "Hey, um well, not the staff. I 2559 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,920 CC'd the staff and I emailed the 2560 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,360 contractor. 2561 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,520 And I said, um we were supposed to meet. 2562 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,280 That was a month ago. I waited a month. 2563 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,360 How come we didn't meet? Here's my phone 2564 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,600 number. Can we please meet?" Then, um 2565 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,840 today is the 20 2566 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,400 >> first of July. I still have not received 2567 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,120 any correspondence from the city staff 2568 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,400 and the contractor in charge and they've 2569 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,240 already um sent the tender out for that 2570 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,880 or awarded the tender. So, so who do I 2571 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:25,920 What do I do? 2572 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,000 >> If I can ask if you can send me that 2573 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,840 string of emails 2574 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,240 and and that and then I will I'll talk 2575 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:33,920 to Karen 2576 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:34,360 >> Okay. 2577 01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:34,920 >> uh Ms. Halbert. 2578 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,120 >> Okay. Yeah, because 2579 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:36,280 >> Okay. 2580 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,720 >> I'm I'm frustrated that it's been 2 2581 01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,040 months and it's been a month for the 2582 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,440 city staff to get back to me as well as 2583 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,080 the contractor. 2 months. 2584 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:45,600 >> Okay. So. 2585 01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,240 >> Okay. 2586 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:50,160 Any other questions before 2587 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,360 Okay, motion to adjourn. 2588 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,840 Moved. Second. All those in favor? 2589 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:55,800 Carried unanimously and thank you 2590 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,320 everyone. Have a great summer. 2591 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:08,390 We'll see you in September. 2592 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,520 » Mhm.