[0:02] Okay, good evening everyone. Welcome to [0:03] the regular council meeting for Tuesday, [0:05] July 21st. It's currently 7:00. Before [0:08] we get started, [0:09] the Village of Anmore would like to open [0:11] our meeting by recognizing the many [0:12] indigenous peoples of our area, [0:14] including the following First Nations [0:16] with communities that are now located in [0:17] the region that we know as Metro [0:18] Vancouver. [0:20] It'll be the Musqueam, Squamish, [0:21] Tsleil-Waututh, and Kwikwetlem. [0:24] Further, we'd like to honor the [0:25] important place in history occupied by [0:26] the many tutorial keepers of these lands [0:28] and waters around us since time [0:29] immemorial. [0:30] I'll call the meeting to order. Could I [0:31] get someone to move the agenda as [0:34] circulated? [0:36] >> Second. [0:37] >> Call the question. All those in favor? [0:40] Carried unanimously. Uh [0:42] we have public input. Uh [0:44] public is to uh come forward and ask any [0:47] questions regarding to business that's [0:49] on the agenda. Uh [0:50] Agenda items only. 2-minute time limit [0:52] applies to speakers. Anybody wishing to [0:54] come forward and discuss anything on [0:57] tonight's agenda? [1:01] Nope. [1:02] Okay. [1:03] Move on to uh delegations. We have a [1:04] delegation from Lina Aziz to present [1:07] regarding Lower Fraser Valley Flood [1:09] Plains Coalition, a regional request. [1:18] I'm going to [1:19] I I'm just going to ask Did Did you want [1:22] to come to public input comment on [1:23] anything at public input? [1:25] Okay, I'm just going to if we can just [1:27] put you on hold, sir. [1:29] Please come up and state your name and [1:30] address. [1:38] » Zane Erickson, 2000 Rich Mountain Drive. [1:41] I'm just um [1:43] just wanted to bring up something about [1:45] the proposed changes to the [1:47] >> Could you pull the mic up a little? [1:48] Yeah. [1:50] There you go. Perfect. [1:51] >> Just the changes to the zoning bylaw, [1:54] and I'm just looking for more [1:56] specificity [1:57] in what's written. [1:59] Specifically regarding [2:01] basements [2:02] and [2:04] I found a little bit [2:05] vague where it was described that [2:08] um they're wanting to limit it to a [2:11] partially exposed. [2:13] I didn't see a definition [2:15] of what partially exposed means. [2:18] And I think by reading it that I find [2:20] the intention that limiting the height [2:22] to 2.75 m from the basement floor to the [2:26] main floor [2:28] is what would be the guiding definition [2:30] of partially exposed. [2:32] And I'm just concerned that in Ann Arbor [2:35] uh if we reduce [2:38] basement ceiling heights to 8 ft [2:41] uh with large spans, with the way that [2:43] houses are designed in Ann Arbor [2:45] we're going to have people with [2:47] you know, 7-ft ceiling heights in [2:48] basements if you need to do large spans [2:51] with floor trusses like we do so we can [2:53] run all their ducts and what not through [2:55] there. And so I [2:56] I'm just concerned that [2:59] these changes that are being made are [3:03] maybe academic more than um real-world [3:08] examples happening in the village. And [3:10] so I think some of that just needs to be [3:12] looked at a little bit more. [3:14] >> Good. Thank you very much. [3:16] >> Yeah. [3:17] >> Any other public comments before I vote? [3:19] Sorry. We'll get back to our delegation [3:21] now, Ms. Lena Aziz. Thank you. And thank [3:24] you for your patience. [3:25] >> I just think we're just [3:26] putting out [3:27] like that [3:28] you know, our website and a little bit [3:30] of teaching a little bit about it. [3:36] Sure. [3:42] » And please feel Yeah, feel free to [3:43] change that. Move that. Yeah. [3:53] » Uh good evening, Mayor Kumpel. My name [3:55] is Lina Lee. I'm the Watershed Programs [3:57] Director at Watershed Watch Society, a [4:00] conservation charity based in Fort [4:02] Langley, [4:03] BC. Our work goes where salmon goes and [4:05] where problems lie. [4:07] >> Today [4:08] >> Sorry. [4:11] » Okay. Is this all right? [4:13] >> Yes, it's fine. [4:14] >> All right. Today, I'm speaking as a [4:15] member of the Lower Fraser Floodplain [4:17] Coalition. The coalition is a group of [4:19] organizations, experts, and advocates [4:22] working toward integrated, [4:24] fish-friendly, and climate-resilient [4:26] floodplain management across the Lower [4:28] Mainland. [4:29] Our vision is simple. [4:31] That the people and the non-human [4:32] relatives of the Lower Mainland are [4:34] healthy, safe, and resilient to [4:36] flooding. [4:39] I'm here with a request that the Village [4:40] of Anmore join other communities in [4:42] becoming a signatory to the Regional [4:44] Joint Statement on Action for Floodplain [4:46] Resilience in the Lower Mainland. [4:49] Since uh 2022, we've been convening [4:52] local governments and First Nation [4:54] leaders and experts from across the [4:55] region to build the relationships, the [4:57] knowledge foundation, and momentum [4:59] needed to ready our region for flood [5:01] resilience. [5:02] Over the seven dialogues we've hosted, [5:05] themes around coordinated action, [5:07] regional action, sustained funding [5:09] sources, and advocacy to the feds and [5:10] the province keep coming to the surface. [5:14] Those seven uh meetings are represented [5:16] by the seven reports we have on the [5:18] slide there. [5:21] Uh something else that's emerged from [5:22] the regional discussion is that it's [5:24] time for multi-benefit flood management [5:26] in the Lower Mainland. We are stuck with [5:28] the approach to flood control [5:29] infrastructure that was developed rather [5:31] hastily in 1948-49, [5:34] and that combined with provincial [5:35] downloading of flood management to local [5:37] governments leaves us confined to [5:39] piecemeal approaches, [5:40] but it doesn't have to be that way. [5:42] Across the border in Washington state, [5:44] there's a program called Floodplains by [5:46] Design. The state the the state of [5:48] Washington has invested five $359 [5:50] million [5:52] in large-scale multi-benefit projects [5:54] that have reduced flood risk for 88 [5:56] communities, restored over 275 km of [6:00] salmon habitat, [6:01] supported local farms and boosted [6:03] regional economies since 2013. [6:05] These investments have already saved [6:07] nearly $2 million in avoided flood [6:09] damages. Beyond safety and habitat [6:12] gains, the program is a powerful [6:13] economic driver. Every million dollars [6:16] um [6:17] invested generates 2.2 to 2.5 million in [6:20] economic local economic activity, with [6:22] about 80% of that money staying in the [6:24] community. The program has leveraged has [6:27] leveraged funding for local from local [6:29] and federal partners at a 3:2:1 ratio, [6:31] creating thousands of jobs statewide. [6:34] We have been um learning from and being [6:36] mentored through that program over the [6:37] past few years, and we want to create an [6:40] investment of that kind for British for [6:42] the the Lower Mainland. [6:45] But despite all the goodwill [6:47] demonstrated in the region and the good [6:50] ideas that are out there, we have to [6:52] acknowledge that we are in a crisis [6:53] situation. [6:55] Flood risks are escalating. In the Lower [6:57] Mainland alone, we have lived through [6:59] major flooding in '21, [7:01] '24, '25, and a bit also this year in [7:05] the spring of 2026. [7:07] Aging infrastructure, development on [7:09] flood plains, and a changing climate are [7:11] all converging. [7:14] >> [snorts] [7:15] >> Uh I should note, of course, the BC [7:17] flood strategy does exist. It's been [7:18] around since 2024, [snorts] but there's [7:20] zero funding to actually implement that [7:22] strategy. [7:24] Flood resilience is not discretionary [7:25] spending. It is prudent financial [7:27] management. Every time we kick the can [7:29] down the road, we are gambling with the [7:31] lives, the homes, food security, [7:33] infrastructure, and ecosystems in the [7:35] Lower Mainland. [7:36] In fact, a single major flood in the in [7:39] the region could wipe out over $350 [7:41] billion in economic value. [7:43] The Close to Home report by the Canadian [7:45] Climate Institute makes clear that BC [7:47] will be the province hit hardest by [7:49] escalating flood and wildfire-related [7:51] disaster costs. And yet we continue to [7:53] build in high-risk zones, locking in [7:55] future losses. [7:57] Of note, I just want to say there has [7:59] been no significant federal or [8:00] provincial investments in flood safety [8:02] in our region since the Fraser River [8:04] Flood Control Program ended in 1995. [8:08] But opportunities do exist. [8:11] The federal government has a clear [8:12] interest in a resilient Lower Fraser, as [8:15] mentioned in recent announcements. It's [8:17] an opportunity to channel investments [8:19] that deliver regional solutions that [8:20] work with nature and the economy. [8:23] It's worth noting, also, that the $150 [8:25] to $164 million awarded through DMAF to [8:29] the region [8:30] has been scattered amongst individual [8:32] projects, not a coordinated regional [8:34] program, [8:35] which has made which unfortunately has [8:37] not made our region flood resilient. [8:40] A real investment program means [8:41] sequencing the right tools in the right [8:43] order, building local capacity, [8:46] funding applied funding applied [8:48] research, creating jobs, and [8:49] prioritizing the most vulnerable [8:51] communities first. [8:54] Which all of that brings me to the joint [8:56] statement that I'm here about today. The [8:58] aim is to express a unified regional [9:00] voice across local governments and First [9:02] Nations and support advocacy to federal [9:05] and provincial governments for stable, [9:07] long-term investment in flood resilience [9:09] that protects people, communities, and [9:11] ecosystems from [9:12] flood risk. And this is not just [9:14] riverine, we're also talking about [9:15] overland flooding and things like [9:17] atmospheric rivers. [9:19] It is an opportunity for the city as as [9:21] for the village [9:22] as leaders to send a clear message to [9:24] Ottawa and Victoria, letting them know [9:27] that we are ready to work together as a [9:28] region to build flood resilience for our [9:30] communities. We know what we need, and [9:33] federal and provincial governments must [9:34] step up to protect this region of [9:36] national significance with a program [9:38] that reflects the magnitude of the task [9:40] at hand. [9:42] To that end, we are calling [9:44] the joint statement calls for a [9:45] dedicated long-term flood resilience [9:47] program for the region, stable committed [9:49] funding, not project by project funding, [9:52] regional coordination, investment in [9:55] critical infrastructure, and the full [9:57] flood risk reduction toolbox, including [9:59] nature-based solutions, and capacity [10:02] support for First Nations and local [10:04] government leadership [10:05] to move this work forward. [10:08] So, on May 29th, the Metro Vancouver [10:11] Regional District's board endorsed this [10:13] joint statement, and since then we have [10:15] been doing delegations to two [10:17] municipalities across the region. So [10:19] far, we have got endorsement from Metro [10:22] Vancouver and the SLRD, the [10:23] Squamish-Lillooet Regional District. We [10:25] are [10:27] seeking endorsement from the FVRD later [10:29] this month. City-wise, Port Coquitlam, [10:33] the City of Coquitlam, City of Delta, [10:35] Township of Langley, and the City of [10:36] Langley have all signed on. We're in [10:38] process with the City of Vancouver, [10:40] Maple Ridge, and City of Surrey as we [10:43] speak. And we have um [10:45] more coming up [10:47] after the after the August break. [10:51] So, [10:52] to summarize then, [10:55] I should turn my sheet over. [10:57] Essentially, this the statement is [11:00] calling on the provincial and federal [11:01] governments to recognize that [11:02] collaboration, not competition for [11:04] piecemeal funding, is the foundation of [11:06] for resilience in the Lower Fraser, and [11:08] that enabling First Nations and local [11:10] governments to work together to meet [11:11] responsibilities to their communities [11:14] that flow from rights, titles, and [11:16] jurisdiction is part of that foundation. [11:19] And we're calling on the federal and [11:21] provincial governments to develop a [11:22] sustained long-term investment program [11:25] for the Lower Fraser adequate to support [11:27] collaborative work across for federal, [11:29] provincial, and local governments, First [11:32] Nations, and the private sector to [11:34] achieve regional flood plain resilience [11:36] that works with nature, not against it. [11:38] This work is bigger than one community, [11:40] and we're hence we're um trying to bring [11:43] everyone together so we can work [11:44] together. [11:46] Thank you. [11:48] » Good. Thank you. Um [11:50] with my role on Metro Vancouver, we we [11:52] did endorse this, and we've really had a [11:53] challenge because there is [11:55] the provincial government and federal [11:56] governments are not putting any funding [11:58] towards this very significant issue that [12:01] is facing uh a lot of our [12:03] municipalities. I especially feel for [12:05] like a municipality like Pitt Meadows of [12:08] very small size just doesn't have the [12:10] funding to be able to do this, and no [12:11] money coming from the province or the [12:12] federal governments to be able to to do [12:14] a lot of these things. And I know it at [12:16] Metro Vancouver, we also had the the [12:18] Fraser Valley [12:19] uh flood plains task force that we have [12:21] there, and we we are have a real [12:22] challenge with it as well to maintain [12:24] funding for that. So, anyway, I really [12:26] support uh [12:28] your what you're what you're doing and [12:29] getting and us all advocating for the [12:31] same thing and and helping out. We but [12:34] it also I think includes dredging as [12:35] well because a lot of the uh areas of [12:37] the lower Fraser need to be dredged [12:39] because they're now the siltation that's [12:41] come down over the years, and and the [12:42] federal government, which is their [12:44] responsibility, is not participating in [12:45] that at all. So, I'll just open up if [12:47] anybody has any other further questions, [12:49] but just wanted to thank you again for [12:51] coming and for your presentation and the [12:52] work that you're doing. [12:54] Any other comments? [12:57] Councilor Richardson. [12:58] >> So, I I went to your website to try and [13:01] understand. Like, I understand it's a [13:04] group of people coming together to try [13:06] and raise awareness, [13:08] but I didn't read any [13:10] examples. This is what we'd like to do. [13:12] And in your presentation, you even said, [13:15] "We're building on flood plains and [13:16] putting people at risk." [13:18] Where? How many? Which municipalities? [13:22] Cuz it seems to me [13:23] it would be the responsibility of the [13:25] municipalities not to do that, not the [13:28] provincial government or the federal [13:29] government [13:30] to restrict municipalities from where [13:32] they want to build. So, I was a bit [13:34] confused [13:36] sort of how it would work, where the [13:38] money would go, and what it would do. [13:40] >> Yeah. Um actually right now, I think [13:43] it's bill 44, provincial bill 44, where [13:47] um the province is kind of directing [13:50] local governments in one way to build in [13:52] order to densify communities, which um [13:55] in some communities are they're [13:57] considering more development and more [13:59] denser development in the flood plains. [14:02] Burnaby is one. [14:03] PoCo is another. [14:05] Um [14:06] so, that's kind of [14:08] what I mean by we're building more in [14:09] the flood plain, and perhaps not to [14:11] certain flood standards that um [14:14] have to be updated still, especially for [14:16] the local communities having to update [14:18] their flood standards. The The second [14:21] part of What was the What was the second [14:22] part of the question? [14:24] >> I was kind of looking for a specific [14:26] examples of where the money would go, [14:28] what it would do. Like [14:31] are they looking to have the federal [14:32] government come in, and your numbers [14:34] were huge, raise all dikes on the Fraser [14:37] Valley, [14:38] you know, 5 ft? [14:40] Like I I was a bit [14:42] confused like even work with nature. [14:43] Like if you work with nature, the river [14:45] just flows. [14:46] So, our point actually is in some ways [14:49] is to not work with nature. [14:51] We want to control it and force it into [14:53] particular channels and paths. [14:55] >> So, that's what's happened before, Ian. [14:56] >> So, [14:58] I I didn't quite understand what the [15:00] overall goal is. [15:02] >> Yeah, well, [15:03] there are many different steps before we [15:05] actually start breaking ground and, you [15:06] know, doing any of the flood resilience [15:07] projects we'd like to see happen. Um [15:10] right now, we have funding from NRCan, [15:14] Natural Resources Canada, to do research [15:16] on critical infrastructure. So, we're [15:18] starting to identify where are the [15:21] critical infra- [15:22] infrastructure at the moment? So, [15:24] railways, roads, focusing on those, [15:27] their their their flood risk weaknesses. [15:31] So, that work current studies currently [15:32] being conducted through UBC School of [15:34] Engineering. [15:36] And we would love to have more [15:38] communities on board and participating [15:40] in that study so that their critical [15:42] infrastructure in the communities are [15:43] getting [15:45] studied and addressed. [15:46] So, that's one thing that's happening. [15:48] More There is more [15:50] need [15:55] There is further need for actually doing [15:57] more applied research cuz we actually [15:59] don't know [16:01] where all of the high-risk flood areas [16:03] are in the Lower Mainland. [16:05] It shifts. Right now, everyone's [16:07] focusing on the Sumas Prairie for [16:09] obviously good reasons. But, this past [16:12] March, we had a slide at the top end of [16:14] the Coquitlam River. Well, that's an [16:16] area perhaps of high risk as well. So, [16:18] there are so many different areas of [16:20] high risk within our communities that we [16:21] haven't fully identified yet. So, that [16:24] has to be done. [16:25] We talk about using the flood risk toolkit, and that is [16:30] everything from gray infrastructure like [16:33] dikes, pump stations, [16:35] you know, channeling things, all the way [16:38] to green gray solutions like greener [16:41] dikes, [16:42] using berms for example, or creating [16:45] constructed wetlands. So, those are more [16:46] nature-based solutions, constructed [16:48] wetlands to hold more water and allow it [16:50] to flow more slowly because as we are [16:52] developing and have developed in our [16:55] floodplains and our slopes, we have [16:57] taken away the capacity of forests and [17:00] wetlands to do what they need to do. We [17:02] have lost 80 [17:05] 82% [17:07] or so of the wetlands in the Lower [17:08] Mainland. So, therefore, we've lost the [17:11] to capacity of to hold water in the [17:13] region. [17:14] >> So. [17:15] >> yes. [17:15] >> Yeah, I just wanted to kind of wrap this [17:17] up. Basically, in essence, you're an [17:19] advocacy group for all the [17:21] municipalities and different um [17:24] uh bands up along the the Fraser River, [17:26] which which is something that you're [17:28] looking to coordinate a [17:31] kind of a central [17:33] um request to both levels of government [17:34] and work as a as a as a as a unit rather [17:37] than what happens right now, which is a [17:39] lot of municipalities, i.e. the [17:40] Richmonds and that have their own flood [17:41] plans, but they're not in conjunction [17:43] with other neighboring municipalities [17:45] like Delta and such like that. So, [17:47] really, I think the the essence of of [17:49] the ask is just to uh sign on with the [17:52] other municipalities as to this regional [17:54] body [17:55] kind of speaking for all of us and [17:57] getting the required funding that we [17:58] need to get from the senior levels of [18:00] government. Is that [18:02] >> Yeah. Yeah, we do advocacy. We also do [18:04] convening. We bring local governments [18:06] and First Nation leadership together. We [18:08] do this at the regional scale, so Hope [18:10] to the Salish Sea up to, you know, the [18:11] Squamish Lil'wat Regional District. Um [18:14] but we also do this subregionally at [18:15] smaller groups, so we can we can talk [18:17] about things at different levels based [18:18] on what's needed. So, we do we do the [18:22] advocacy. We do the convening, bringing [18:24] together people, and we're creating a [18:25] knowledge hub. We're creating the shared [18:27] knowledge uh space for communities to [18:30] access. So, we are not we are not the [18:33] ones who would [18:36] In essence, we should not be the ones as [18:38] uh we're not leadership, right? We're [18:40] kind of behind the scenes, but we want [18:42] to support and encourage leadership to [18:44] have have um [18:46] uh the words and the knowledge to then [18:48] go forward and speak to the province and [18:50] the feds and bring this investment to [18:52] the region. [18:53] >> Thank you. [18:54] Is this something you have a resolution [18:55] for us or something we can [18:57] move to endorse? [18:59] >> Perhaps if council desires um [19:03] uh a resolution can be um that the uh [19:06] council uh supports the request uh of [19:09] the delegation. Something as simple as [19:11] that, perhaps. [19:12] >> Would that be Would the Village of [19:13] Anmore Council support the [19:17] movement of the I forget what exactly [19:20] the name is. [19:20] >> statement. [19:21] >> The the Lower Mainland Lower Fraser [19:23] Flood Land Coalition. [19:25] >> Um yeah, yeah. The exact name of the [19:27] statement is I believe you have it as [19:29] well. Yeah, and if you wanted to see the [19:32] wording, it is on my slide deck as well. [19:34] >> We can We'll word smith. So, I'll call [19:35] the question and [19:37] Do I have someone to move that [19:38] resolution? [19:40] To endorse the flood lands. Okay, [19:42] Counselor Krygier. [19:44] >> So, are we requesting to send a letter [19:46] of support or [19:49] >> I did [19:50] >> I Is it a [19:51] >> What is the actual action? That's what [19:53] I'm a little confused about. [19:54] >> we've been what we've been receiving [19:55] from other local governments is a very [19:58] brief letter showing reflecting support [20:01] for the joint statement, as well as a [20:03] logo that we can then put up on our [20:05] presentation and on our website. [20:07] So, that's that's the basic ask. [20:08] >> Okay. [20:09] >> And then, of course, as we're moving [20:10] forward, if there's interest in being [20:11] part of our convenings and being part of [20:14] any advocacy that does happen at the at [20:16] the high upper levels of government, [20:18] being invited to participate in that as [20:20] well. [20:21] >> Okay. [20:23] So, could I get someone Does somebody [20:25] want to move that motion to submit a [20:26] letter? Moved. [20:28] Anybody want to second? I see Paul's [20:30] going to second it. [20:31] Okay, any further discussion? [20:34] Councilor Richardson. [20:36] >> Yes, I kind of mentioned earlier, like I couldn't really understand who you [20:40] were, how you were funded. You said you [20:42] were a non-profit. [20:43] And I I [20:45] didn't quite understand your role. [20:47] And in order to send a letter saying I [20:50] support you, I kind of have to know [20:52] more. [20:53] >> Okay. [20:53] >> So, I I can try and find out offline, [20:57] but I couldn't find it before. So, maybe [20:59] we can have a conversation or something. [21:01] >> I'm happy to chat. But, very quickly, we [21:03] are really just like a a of different [21:05] organizations who are who think the [21:07] region needs to be organized in a in a [21:10] better way. We don't have a regional [21:11] flood plan. [21:12] Um and we're at risk because of that on [21:14] many different levels. Environmentally, [21:16] but also economically, our community is [21:18] at risk. So, for all of those reasons, a [21:20] number of organizations came together. [21:21] If you go to our website, you will see [21:23] who we are on there. We're uh like [21:26] researchers, engineers, uh environmental [21:29] organizations, um [21:31] a legal like West Coast Environmental [21:32] Law Society, they provide legal legal [21:34] advice. Um [21:36] uh Farm We also have uh Farmland [21:38] Advantage, so we have like a [21:39] agricultural um [21:41] part [21:43] members part of our coalition. [21:45] So, we [21:46] >> question from Councillor Craig. Are you [21:49] a registered Well, you're not a charity, [21:51] but are you a an organization, a [21:53] society? [21:54] >> coalition. So, a coalition of different [21:57] organizations who are like Watershed [21:59] Watch, who I work for, is a registered [22:01] charity. [22:02] Um the the First Nations led emergency [22:05] planning uh secretariat is um is a What [22:10] are they? They're a nonprofit, they're [22:11] not a registered charity, but they're [22:12] First Nations led and our work is very [22:15] much based in and supported by what they [22:17] do. So, all of the different um [22:19] organizations that are part that are in [22:21] the coalition, um we we are like we have [22:24] our own charters and mandates and all of [22:26] that, but we come together for this [22:28] cause [22:29] and try [22:30] to bring the region together. [22:31] >> Okay. [22:34] >> I think that's the coalition. [22:36] >> So, you don't have a [22:37] Do you have a budget? Do you have Is [22:39] everyone paid by their organization that [22:41] represents? Sorry for these questions, [22:43] but [22:44] >> no, totally, it's fine. Um [22:46] So, yeah, so we I can speak for myself. [22:49] I do have a budget that pays for my time [22:51] that I apply for grants. Um like to [22:54] foundations, and that's at Watershed [22:57] Watch Salmon Society, but the coalition [22:59] to help with some of our studies I [23:00] mentioned ENR We have $1.8 million from [23:04] NRCan. We recently were awarded some [23:07] money through the through the Ministry [23:09] of Water, Land and Resource Stewardship [23:11] as well as the Ministry of Agriculture [23:13] because they want us to continue our [23:15] engagement with between farmers and [23:17] First Nations in the Valley. So, that's [23:18] some other work that we're doing. Um so, [23:21] you know, [23:22] little pots of money here and there to [23:24] help [23:25] us do our work. [23:25] >> Thank you. [23:27] Okay, I'll call the question. All those [23:29] it's been moved and seconded. All those [23:30] in favor? [23:31] Opposed? I don't even see Oh, [23:35] uh motion's carried. Thank you. Thank [23:37] you very much for coming out and [23:38] presenting. [23:41] Okay, uh we have the minutes of the [23:43] regular council meeting held on July [23:45] 7th, 2026. Recommendation that those uh [23:49] minutes be adopted as circulated. Could [23:51] I get someone to move that? Move, [23:52] second. Any discussion on those minutes? [23:56] See none. All those in favor? [23:58] Opposed? [24:00] Carried. Any business arising from the [24:02] minutes? [24:04] No? Okay. We have a consent agenda. Um [24:09] we only have one item on the consent [24:10] agenda, the Orphan Dyke advocacy letter [24:12] to the province. [24:17] Uh [24:19] Who uh who should I go to about [24:21] explaining this? [24:23] Ms. Elder? [24:24] >> I It is just for a receipt. [24:26] >> Oh, it's just for a receipt. Okay. [24:28] Someone to to move receipt. [24:32] Move, second. Any discussion? [24:36] See none. All those in favor? [24:39] Opposed? Carried. I didn't ask you. [24:41] Okay. We're on to uh [24:43] legislative reports 9A OCP bylaw [24:45] amendment 722-2025 [24:48] infield development first and second [24:50] reading report dated July 17th, 2026 [24:52] from Manager of Development Services [24:54] attached. [24:55] Mr. Joseph. [24:56] >> Uh excuse me before we begin, I will [24:59] recuse myself. [25:00] >> Okay. [25:00] >> We'll be We'll be doing infill, [25:02] hopefully, in the future. [25:06] >> Okay. Mr. Joseph. [25:22] » Okay, thank you, Mayor and Council. If [25:24] you can put the mic a little closer. [25:26] So, this report is to present updated [25:28] draft of the official community plan [25:29] amendment bylaw number 722-2025, [25:32] which proposes updates to OCP policy RLU [25:34] 16, along with corresponding amendments [25:36] to the infill policy number 61 for [25:38] Council's consideration of first and [25:40] second reading, and to seek direction on [25:41] referring this amendment to external [25:43] agencies as required under section 475 [25:45] and 476 of the Local Government Act. [25:47] So, back at the May 20th, uh, 2025 [25:49] meeting, Council directed staff to [25:51] propose amendments to OCP policy RLU 16. [25:54] Staff returned in September 2026 with [25:56] proposed amendments, and Council passed [25:57] a resolution directing staff to prepare [25:59] changes to both the infill policy, as [26:02] well, uh, RLU 16 and the infill policy. [26:05] At the May 19th meeting, Council [26:06] directed that the amendments be deferred [26:08] as it was identified that the proposed [26:09] new minimum lot size provision for [26:11] double fronting parcels would permit a [26:13] density greater than that what was [26:14] allowed under the most recent OCP [26:16] updates. [26:17] So, staff have further revised the draft [26:19] amendment bylaw and infill policy number [26:21] 61 for Council consideration based on [26:23] this feedback, and have since removed [26:24] the density specific provision for [26:26] double fronting parcels altogether. [26:28] The previous inclusion for parcels [26:29] between 2800 and 3924 square meters to [26:32] be eligible for infill, where the parcel [26:35] double fronts onto two separate public [26:36] highways, would have equated to a [26:38] density of a of around 8.67 units per [26:41] acre, which exceeds the OCP, uh, policy [26:44] RLU 17 associated with recent OCP [26:46] amendments that have been established [26:48] that has established a maximum density [26:50] of six units per acre for infill lots. [26:53] Uh so, the standard minimum lot size [26:55] range of roughly 1 to 2 acres uh [26:58] and the current maximum density of 2.04 [26:59] parcels per acre per acre will continue [27:02] to be to apply to all infill parcels, [27:04] including those for double frontage. So, [27:06] staff recommend that any further review [27:07] of infill density uh be considered as [27:09] part of a future OCP update. [27:12] The amendment also proposes to remove [27:13] number three of RLU 16 for the [27:16] requirement that the entire parcel have [27:18] an average slope of 20% or less. While [27:20] keeping a number four of the policy for [27:22] the requirement that the building site [27:23] have an average grade of 20% or less. [27:26] This gives more flexibility for lots [27:27] with varied topography while maintaining [27:29] control of the siting that keeps [27:30] development uh off steep slopes. It's [27:33] also worth noting that the steep slopes [27:34] development permit area adopted through [27:36] the recent OCP amendments still applies [27:38] to lots with an overall average grade of [27:40] 20% and will require a development [27:42] permit and geotechnical assessments [27:43] where needed. [27:45] The amendment also provides additional [27:46] flexibility on frontage requirements [27:48] described in RLU 16 number six. So, [27:50] panhandle lots and lots using an access [27:52] easement are treated as comparable [27:53] scenarios, both requiring similar [27:55] standards for emergency access. [27:58] The previous draft amendment had a 50-m [27:59] frontage requirement for panhandle lots [28:02] and this has since been revised down to [28:03] 25 m matching what's proposed for the [28:05] lots utilizing an access easement [28:07] alternative. [28:12] In regards to updates to infill policy [28:14] number 61 section two requires that the access [28:20] strip of a panhandle not be included in [28:22] the calculation of the minimum lot size. [28:25] Section four of the policy exempts [28:26] panhandle lots and lots utilizing access [28:28] easements uh from a 25-m frontage [28:30] requirement, but but requires that the [28:33] parcel width and depth be at least 25 m [28:35] in length to maintain green space [28:36] between homes as illustrated in figure [28:39] three and four of the policy as attached [28:41] to the report, matching the intent of [28:42] the 25-m uh road frontage requirement. [28:45] Staff have also consulted with the [28:47] assessment Volunteer Fire Department on [28:48] emergency access requirements for these [28:50] lot configurations, which have informed [28:52] section 5 of the info policy number 61, [28:54] which requires panhandle lots and lots [28:56] using an access easement to meet a set [28:58] of criteria that will be enforced uh [29:00] through covenants on title. [29:02] These include a minimum of seven 7.5 m [29:04] access strip for panhandle lots, a [29:06] minimum 6 m wide paved access for [29:08] panhandle lots and access alternatives, use existing [29:12] driveways where feasible, maximum of 12% [29:15] driveway grades or access grades, [29:17] uh adequate overhead clearance for fire [29:19] apparatus where an arborist report and [29:20] tree management plan may be required at [29:22] rezoning, [29:23] clear and visible address signage from [29:24] the highway, safe and accessible [29:26] emergency entry at all times, and only [29:28] one parcel that may be created uh [29:30] utilizing an access by easement. [29:33] So, a council approval of a waiver [29:34] permitting subdivision where the [29:36] frontage is less than 10% of the parcel [29:37] perimeter uh will be required uh when [29:40] warranted for these lots. And also [29:42] referral to the fire chief may occur at [29:44] any stage in the info process. [29:46] Finally, amendments to section 8 of the [29:47] policy proposes to update the list of [29:49] desirable community amenities since the [29:51] community hub is now complete and [29:52] upgrades to the Spirit Park are [29:53] underway, staff have replaced the [29:55] municipal hall with park enhancements [29:57] and park acquisition as an active CAC [29:59] priority. [30:00] Staff has not proposed a change to the [30:02] actual CAC target value at this time, [30:04] though council may direct staff to [30:05] commission a new land lift study or [30:07] adjust in the current figure based on [30:08] CPI indexing as recommended by the [30:11] previous report, uh which would bring it [30:12] to approximately $189,633. [30:17] So, if council wants to pursue this uh [30:18] either um [30:20] two options, uh direction can be given [30:22] tonight along with uh the other [30:23] recommendations. [30:27] Local Government Act requires a [30:28] consultation with potentially affected [30:30] agencies before public hearing, so staff [30:32] recommend referral to the Miss Palaces [30:33] Belcarra, Port Moody, School District [30:35] number 43, and the Musqueam, Squamish, [30:38] Tsleil-Waututh, and Kwikwetlem First [30:39] Nations with all responses brought back [30:42] to council as part of a public hearing [30:43] package. [30:44] Would you like me to read the [30:46] recommendation? [30:47] >> Sure. [30:49] >> So the recommendation is that Village of [30:50] Bel Air Official Community Plan Bylaw [30:51] Amendment number 722-2025 [30:54] be given first and second reading and [30:56] that Bel Air Official Community Plan [30:57] Amendment Bylaw number 722-2025 [31:00] be referred to the following committees [31:01] as it relates to the mandate of each [31:02] committee. [31:04] And that in relation to Village of Bel [31:05] Air Official Community Plan Amendment [31:06] Bylaw number 722-2025 [31:09] amendments associated with the proposed [31:10] updates to policy RLU 16 and full [31:12] development council will provide the [31:14] following additional opportunities it [31:15] considers appropriate for consultation [31:17] with persons, organizations, or [31:18] authorities it considers [31:20] will be affected including the [31:22] municipalities of Village of Bel Air and [31:23] the City of Port Moody, School District [31:25] number 43, and the Musqueam, Squamish, [31:27] Tsleil-Waututh, and Kwikwetlem First [31:28] Nations. And that all information [31:30] resulting from the Section 475 and 476 [31:32] referral [31:34] and received by the Village will be [31:35] brought forward to a council as part of [31:36] a public hearing package and that a [31:38] public hearing be scheduled following [31:39] the referral process. Thank you. [31:42] >> Good. Can I get someone to move that? [31:45] Move seconded. Seconded. I'll open up [31:47] for discussion. [31:49] Councilor Richardson. [31:53] Okay. So, [31:55] when I [31:56] read through this, [31:58] we just did an OCP amendment. We're now [32:01] doing another one and I'm [32:03] worried we're bumping into an election [32:05] and maybe it's not the right thing to [32:07] do. So, if you just kind of [32:09] qualify times. If this is passed, when [32:12] would the public hearing be? [32:15] » I think the next council meeting is in [32:18] September. [32:19] I think in the 20-something, 22nd. [32:22] Should be a sufficient time for a [32:24] referral process to take place as well [32:26] as to schedule a public hearing. So, [32:27] that would be probably when the public [32:28] hearing would take place. [32:30] >> Okay. And then after that, it would be [32:31] third reading. [32:32] >> At the same meeting, potentially the [32:34] >> But then you have to do a fourth [32:35] reading. [32:36] >> Correct. October. [32:37] >> Which would [32:38] >> Or [32:40] Oh, third and adopt because of it's OCP. [32:42] So, you could potentially do the [32:43] adoption at [32:45] third reading as well. So, September [32:47] meeting. [32:48] >> Third and fourth. [32:50] Okay, cuz it's banging into the election [32:52] and I'm [32:55] for some reason it it's I'm a bit leery [32:57] on it. With that said, [32:58] um [32:59] I'm good with like the pan handles. I'm [33:01] good on the 20%, you know, for the [33:03] building area only. [33:05] Um [33:07] good on the size of the double roaded [33:09] lots. [33:10] I'm I'm struggling with the manifestations and maneuvering to [33:17] allow the you know, 0.89 or the 8.9 [33:21] versus the six in the OCP. [33:23] And I was wondering if that cannot be [33:25] done or held done better in zoning. [33:28] So, like right now we say all lots 1/3 [33:31] of an acre can have a carriage house a [33:33] suite and a building. [33:35] But we could change that if you're a [33:37] double side infill, you don't get that. [33:40] And then it cleans it up a little bit [33:43] and this becomes more about enabling and [33:46] less about massaging the OCP. And I [33:49] don't know if that's possible or not, [33:52] but my I'm leaning more that direction. [33:56] >> Yeah, so to the chair, I think that [33:57] you're running up against one other [33:59] issue and that's the 2.0 [34:01] uh for uh [34:02] lots per acre. Um so, that I guess for [34:05] the double frontage purposes, you could [34:06] have two lots uh sort of uh there, but [34:10] we've since removed that um [34:12] sort of uh section for the RLU 16 policy [34:16] under previous direction um [34:18] because it it just exceeds the dense the [34:20] current density of the OCP. So, you [34:23] could potentially include it an [34:25] additional zoning bylaw or a zone for [34:28] the specific lots [34:30] where you wouldn't allow for um let's [34:32] say all all three of the units per lot. [34:35] So then maybe if it's two, then you [34:36] would still be in line with the OCP that [34:39] was currently passed. [34:40] >> Cuz that's my concern. How much of this [34:42] is to enable [34:45] uh more flexible infill [34:47] and how much of this is to change the [34:50] current OCP to allow the potential exit [34:53] extra density on like a 0.8 acre lot [34:56] that's divided into with three units on [34:58] each side? [34:59] >> Yeah, so through the chair, for tonight, [35:01] the current bylaw that's in front of you [35:03] for consideration does not consider [35:04] additional density at all. That's since [35:07] been striked out since the last meeting. [35:09] So the double frontage lot is not under [35:11] consideration at this time. [35:13] >> Okay. [35:15] So then I'm [35:16] confused. [35:18] Cuz I read a whole bunch of this stuff [35:19] is about [35:20] adjusting the 0.6 the six units per acre [35:25] density in the OCP to allow something [35:28] more. Am I Did I misread that? [35:30] >> Yeah, no, through the chair, this was it [35:31] was just a clarification segment. Yeah. [35:34] >> Okay, and then my last question is it an issue at all? Like say we boot [35:39] it down the path to the next council, [35:42] are there like 10 people lined up that [35:44] say, "I want this today?" Do we have [35:46] anybody or can it be left until like [35:50] we're going to redo the OCP in the next [35:52] term is my understanding. So can it be [35:55] wait till then? [35:56] >> Yeah, I mean, we have had active [35:58] interest numerous active interest in in [36:00] sort of these type of configurations. [36:03] Uh we do have one active application in [36:05] regards to 20% average slope. However, [36:09] you know, those considerations uh [36:12] they also have to conform to the active [36:13] policy and of course the option to defer [36:16] it to it all OCP update is is always a [36:19] possibility. [36:21] >> Okay. [36:24] Couple of uh questions I have for you. [36:26] Um [36:28] you know, uh [36:30] again, when I struck the task force back [36:32] in 2018, I've done infill. That's why [36:34] I've no longer recused myself. I'm [36:36] beyond that. Um [36:38] you know, infill was to provide gentle [36:40] densification, [36:42] no new infrastructure, [36:44] not on a steep slope, and it was to [36:46] retain the semi [36:48] semi-rural feel of the village. Very, specific. And I think um [36:53] the uh [36:55] councillors uh [36:56] Webber and uh [36:58] and Trolbridge actually did a really [36:59] good job was they set up a group and and [37:01] met several times and and discussed [37:02] this. I've had a couple people who [37:05] couldn't be here tonight, but are pretty [37:07] concerned about these new changes, and [37:09] the one being the panhandle. [37:11] They said, "Are you aware that most of [37:13] the panhandles are strata roads? And so, [37:15] what you're doing is you're literally [37:17] putting a neighbor against other [37:18] neighbors on the strata road to allow [37:19] them access to that to that panhandle." [37:23] Number two is will this also allow lots [37:26] that are very deep allow them to put a [37:28] panhandle in to be able to to develop [37:31] the rear of the property, which again is [37:32] going to take away from the semi-rural [37:34] feel that the initial infill was was [37:37] proposed to do. So, I am not in favor of [37:40] this at all because I think it opens up [37:42] Pandora's Box and to creativity that [37:44] could be had with people putting [37:46] panhandles. And then I know I think it [37:48] was in the mid mid-2015, 2016, um we [37:52] actually had a moratorium about adding [37:54] panhandles, and I think this will [37:55] actually add panhandles. So, I do have [37:58] some concern people are not pleased [38:00] about this about the about the ability [38:02] of using panhandles to facilitate their [38:05] frontage, um [38:07] because they're using a panhandle to [38:08] access their property right now, and [38:10] they're strata, and so there's a big [38:12] legal concern about that that I don't [38:13] know has been taken into consideration [38:15] in this aspect. And then [38:17] >> Oh, sorry. Go on. [38:18] >> Yeah, and then furthermore, you know, [38:20] they when we when we did the initial, we [38:23] I think there was a lot of parameters [38:24] that were established out of IE the [38:27] Ravenswood neighborhood with the 25 m [38:29] and that and again this get we're [38:31] starting to get away from that. The the [38:33] slope aspect I think is [38:35] you know, I've certainly I have no issue [38:37] from going a little bit higher to a [38:40] higher percentage on the on the on the [38:42] grade if it if it's not going to add any [38:43] extra and it meets the driveway [38:45] requirements regarding regarding grade [38:47] and stuff like that but the the [38:49] panhandle I I I don't think should be [38:52] an option used in infill at all. So. [38:57] Go ahead. [38:58] >> Yeah, so I just want to address a couple [38:59] of things. So the panhandle I was for [39:01] the panhandles would would essentially [39:04] just be that property's driveway. So [39:07] there's no strata cuz there's no sharing [39:08] on a it's just for that specific real [39:11] estate entity [39:13] using that panhandle as part of one [39:15] singular parcel just like any other [39:16] parcel would use a their their driveway. [39:19] >> The concern when I read this and the [39:20] concern that people brought up to my [39:21] attention is where there's a panhandle [39:24] that is shared by two or three homes [39:28] those that is a strata road and it's [39:30] owned by each one of the owners. [39:33] And therefore that you're putting owner [39:34] against owner to be able to allow him to [39:37] add another title to that another access [39:38] point to that where it's only to [39:40] facilitate currently the three homes or [39:42] two homes or whatever it is right now. [39:44] So there was some big concerns about [39:46] that. [39:47] >> Yeah, so I know there is an option to [39:48] have sort of a shared interest and and [39:50] sometimes an access easement that's a [39:52] specific sort of [39:55] I would say access alternative that [39:56] could be sought through a subdivision. [39:58] However, as it's proposed it's just for [40:01] the singular access for the current [40:02] parcel under the application. [40:04] >> So people could then create their own [40:06] panhandle if they had their own property [40:08] to be able to access the rear of the [40:09] property. [40:10] >> Yeah, I mean like I guess easements [40:12] between property owners can can be [40:13] established at any rate. [40:15] >> Yeah, okay. I saw a Webberink had his [40:18] hand up. [40:20] Go ahead. [40:21] >> Thank you, Mayor McKeown. [40:23] I have to agree with Mayor McKeown and [40:26] Councillor Richardson. I think this is [40:28] all a little too close to the election. [40:31] This could all get turned around after [40:32] the election. [40:34] So, [40:35] I would I would not be in favor of [40:37] moving forward with this at the time. [40:41] >> Okay. Did I see Councillor Trobridge Did [40:42] you have your hand up or you just [40:43] adjusting your [40:45] Go ahead. [40:47] >> No, sorry. [40:49] It was my hand up. I I'm of the same [40:51] mind. I mean, [40:53] I like everything uh [40:55] I'm comfortable with everything, I [40:57] should say, in terms of the slope [41:00] applying to just the building envelope, [41:02] things like that make a lot of sense. [41:05] But, if it's all packaged together with [41:07] panhandles, etc., I prefer to defer it. [41:12] >> Good. [41:13] Okay, so we have a motion on the table [41:15] that's moved and seconded. So, to defer it would then simply be to [41:20] wait to be voted against it. So, all [41:22] those in favor of [41:24] Oh, sorry, Councillor Richardson, do you [41:25] have one more comment? [41:27] >> Yes, one comment and one suggestion. [41:31] So, [41:33] my read of this is existing panhandle [41:37] lots are not considered in this. Is that [41:39] true? [41:41] Like, if you have a lot that's narrower [41:43] than 20 50 m, [41:46] you could potentially [41:48] put something behind your thing and [41:50] create an access that would look like a [41:51] panhandle, but current panhandle lots, [41:55] like the rear part of a [41:56] any lot that has a panhandle currently, [41:58] this does not apply to. Correct? [42:00] >> Yeah, so as the bylaw is currently [42:02] worded, 50-m frontage is a requirement [42:05] to be eligible for infill. Okay. So, [42:06] that unless the panhandle is 50 m wide, [42:09] which I doubt. [42:10] >> Okay, fair enough. So, then [42:12] you know, I would make the amendment [42:15] that [42:16] uh be given first second reading and [42:18] then Ambleside be referred to the [42:20] following No, not committees. [42:22] That it be amended so that the only [42:25] thing considered is that 20% on building [42:28] area. [42:29] And then all the other stuff gets passed [42:32] down the pipe. [42:34] Because the my understanding in talking [42:36] with one person that has the 20% issue, [42:39] like 20.05 or something. That the lot's [42:42] a bit of a V [42:44] and they're not planning to build on the [42:45] V, which is a creek. But that, if you [42:48] add up the slope, the absolute value, [42:49] makes a very steep lot, even though the [42:51] lot's not that steep. So, you know, [42:54] mathematically how it goes. So, I don't [42:56] know if we can [42:57] do that and just limit it to the one [43:00] thing. [43:03] >> So, so right now we have a motion on the [43:04] table that encompasses all everything. [43:07] We could do an amendment which would [43:09] take it down to But we'd have to vote [43:11] those other ones down. [43:11] >> Okay, fair enough. [43:12] >> So, I think it's best that we just [43:13] simply vote it down currently. Or if [43:16] that's the if that's what the appetite [43:18] of council is, and then we could come [43:19] back with another one which is just and [43:21] describe a little bit more cuz I'd like [43:23] to get a little bit more details on the [43:25] grade and why it was actually even [43:26] initially set up as well at 20% or where [43:29] that number kind of came from. I think [43:31] it was kind of arbitrarily kind of taken [43:33] out of there in our in our one of our [43:36] GSL maps. And that's so, I'm going to [43:39] call the question. All those in favor of [43:41] what's on voting this in favor right [43:44] now. [43:46] Opposed? [43:49] Motion is defeated. Okay. So, we'll come [43:52] back with something then. [43:54] Okay. [43:55] Move on to We're now on to 9B, zoning [43:58] amendment bylaw classification of [44:00] basement exemption. [44:01] >> of order here. So, if we defeated option [44:05] one [44:06] how do we get option two onto the table? [44:09] >> We we debated all of that and I said to [44:12] Mr. Joseph to bring back the the height [44:14] requirement if possible and then we can [44:16] talk about that. [44:18] Go ahead, Ms. Helwig. [44:19] >> Thank you. Through the chair, I think [44:20] that that would be challenging to also [44:23] be bringing back additional information [44:26] um given that there's only two meetings [44:28] uh until the end of the council term. [44:31] There's a meeting on September 22nd and [44:33] then another one in October. We could [44:35] certainly report back uh in [44:38] the September meeting, but then to [44:40] schedule a public hearing and bring it [44:43] forward to adoption would be very [44:45] challenging um in that time frame. [44:48] >> To change that [44:50] threshold, the percentage of the grade [44:52] percentage, [44:53] is that a full OCP review? [44:57] >> To the chair, no. This I mean, it's been [44:59] considered and reviewed, which is part [45:00] of this package. However, um as it [45:02] essentially it would just be to strike [45:04] out number three of RLU RLU 16 from the bylaw. That's where the bylaw would [45:09] read. [45:10] >> But as I said, I would like to [45:11] understand where that came from and and [45:13] the ramifications of that as well. [45:16] >> Yeah, I'm [45:17] so [45:18] 20% is is the sort of the number that [45:21] was chosen for steep slopes generally. [45:24] Um I don't have the exact history, but I [45:26] imagine that sort of uh through [45:28] discussions probably you know, with the [45:29] village that they decided that infill [45:32] shouldn't be on steep slopes and if [45:33] steep slopes equals 20%, then the [45:35] average grade percentage applies to all. [45:37] >> So, Ms. Ms. Helwig or Esson, [45:41] that minor adjustment to go from 20 to [45:43] say 25%, [45:45] is that could that be done over two [45:47] meetings? [45:49] >> Is it public hearing? [45:50] >> It's a [45:51] imma- it's a fairly small change in that [45:54] regard. So, we're not changing the [45:55] intent of the bylaw. We're not changing [45:59] very much of it. [46:00] >> still would be through the chair. It [46:01] still would be a bylaw amendment. [46:03] >> Right. [46:04] >> So that could be done in two meetings. [46:06] >> Yeah. [46:07] >> Um being the first meeting would be [46:09] September 22nd. Your second meeting in [46:12] October [46:14] I want to say [46:16] seven-ish. Um however, that would also [46:19] be the public hearing night and there [46:22] would not be um time for referrals to uh [46:26] any other municipalities, school [46:28] district, First Nations, or any [46:30] committees. If that's council's desire [46:31] to just do that bylaw amendment, that [46:34] could be [46:35] >> So would [46:35] >> technically achievable in two meetings. [46:37] >> I just wanted to you know, um [46:40] it [46:40] by it increasing the threshold doesn't [46:43] necessarily sort of address what we're doing, the intent of it. The [46:48] intent is where there is a building site [46:50] that is less than 20% that we're not up [46:53] holding it up because [46:55] 10% is drastically steep and now has [46:59] contributed to the overall average [47:00] density. That could be 25 or that could [47:02] be 30 or 40. But it would what's on the [47:05] ground is the intent is to just allow [47:07] for the areas that are completely not in [47:09] steep slope areas to be developed under [47:11] development permit guidelines. [47:14] » So I think it's best My personal view is [47:16] that we would just leave leave this as [47:19] be because again, we have a discussion [47:20] that's been an ongoing discussion about [47:22] basement heights, which are all about [47:23] slope as well, which is coming up with [47:25] the next item at this point in time. So [47:29] >> You both through the chair. I don't know [47:30] if they're completely related because [47:32] you know, development on 30%, 40% is [47:34] >> Yeah, it's it's dealing with slope uh [47:36] slope development. So [47:37] >> Yeah, I understand. It's just not a OCP [47:39] issue. [47:39] >> Yeah. Yeah. [47:41] >> Hello. [47:42] >> Councilor Trowbridge. [47:45] >> Yeah, so [47:46] um [47:47] I don't quite maybe don't understand, [47:50] but I don't see the relationship to a [47:52] slope discussion. My understanding [47:55] is that removal of 16 RUL or RLU [48:00] was to allow if if a if a property had a steep slope on it, [48:08] but it was not in the building envelope, [48:11] then we would allow the building in the [48:13] building envelope. It It It's really [48:16] more about where the slope is, isn't it, [48:18] George? [48:20] >> Mr. Chair, that's correct, yeah. So [48:22] >> Yeah, so I would be fine [48:25] uh with with an amended motion going [48:28] forward with that component without the [48:31] rest, which is, I think, what Councillor [48:33] Richardson suggested. [48:35] >> So, we voted [48:36] Procedurally, we voted down the motion [48:38] that was on the table, which included [48:40] everything which Mr. Joseph put on the [48:42] thing. So, it would have to be a new [48:43] motion forward that if somebody wants to [48:46] put it forward that we would we would [48:47] entertain. [48:49] >> I'll put that motion forward that we [48:52] entertain the one segment. [48:56] » I'd second that. [48:58] >> What What do we put What is the motion [48:59] that you're seconding? [49:00] >> The My understanding the motion is, [49:04] which we're going to get from our [49:05] corporate officer in a very exacting and [49:07] precise way very shortly, [49:10] is that [49:12] on lots where the or the average [49:14] gradient may be more than 20% if there [49:18] is a building area less than 20% that would be allowed in infill. And And [49:24] the reason I would support that is like [49:26] here's two examples. You have a lot, [49:29] it's an acre, [49:30] half of it's dead flat, [49:32] half of it's at 40%. [49:35] Okay? That would not be allowed. [49:38] Half of it's dead flat, the other half [49:39] is at 30%, that would be allowed. And I [49:42] really don't see the difference between [49:44] those two lots other than the steepness [49:46] of the embankment down to the creek or [49:48] whatever it happens to be. So, I I'm all [49:51] in favor of if you have a building area [49:54] that's suitable, you get to build. [49:57] >> Okay, so do we have a motion on [49:59] >> Mr. Chair, I can read out a motion. Um [50:02] so, I suppose where's the original? [50:11] So, the recommendation is that the [50:12] Village of Anmore Official Community [50:13] Plan Amendment Bylaw number 722-2025 [50:17] as amended. [50:19] >> No, it's not amended. We didn't amend [50:21] that motion was voted down. [50:23] So, there's a new motion. [50:25] >> No, but if we're going to amend what's [50:26] on currently. [50:29] Well, we could. [50:40] I don't either. [50:45] » Can we just take the one section and put it as a motion? [50:54] » Um [50:55] I need um Counselor Richardson, through [50:58] the chair, if you could please give me a [51:00] complete sentence, [51:02] that would be very helpful. [51:05] Okay. [51:09] Yep. [51:11] >> Your mic's not on. [51:15] » Back to the beginning. I don't know the [51:16] exact wording, but that the [51:20] existing bylaw or the policy 61 be [51:24] amended so that on [51:28] that you're allowed to do infill on lots [51:31] where a building area is available less [51:34] than 20%. [51:40] Is Is that sentence enough? [51:44] >> [laughter] [51:46] >> I I know. [51:48] >> [snorts] [51:48] >> Cuz cuz this will drive to the public [51:50] hearing, right? [51:53] If we give it first and second, public [51:54] hearing is next, so it should be pretty [51:56] clear what we're saying. [51:57] >> Absolutely. [51:59] >> Okay, can I [52:00] Do you want me to try something? [52:03] here [52:04] that hopefully we captures it? So, the [52:06] motion would read that [52:08] um where a building site is equal or [52:11] less than the 20% slope, infill [52:14] properties would be accepted under our [52:16] current policy. [52:22] » Perfect. [52:25] » So, through the chair and just um [52:28] chatting with Mr. Joseph here, [52:30] we could potentially [52:32] amend [52:34] um [52:35] 722-2025 [52:38] that is included in the agenda package [52:41] in a way that we could give it two [52:43] readings this evening if Mr. Squizzero [52:45] Cara [52:46] is [52:47] uh all right with that. Uh Mr. Joseph [52:50] has the sections of that bylaw, which is [52:52] on 20 page 25 and 26 of your agenda that [52:56] could be amended, um given two readings, [53:00] and then we could move forward [53:03] that way this evening and go to public [53:05] hearing in September. [53:07] >> Um so, just to clarify, um updating the sentence on the [53:13] um [53:14] item three [53:15] on page 25, is that what I'm looking at? [53:20] Mr. Joseph. [53:21] >> Yeah, that's correct, yeah. [53:22] >> Okay. [53:24] Um [53:25] we can we can potentially say that the [53:28] um [53:29] the bylaw section [53:32] two uh item three be amended, and then [53:36] whatever the amendment needs to be, that [53:40] we can add [53:41] the amendment and uh go forward with [53:44] that. [53:47] So, [53:49] >> Councilor Richardson, [53:51] if I read 722-2025, [53:55] it actually be able to identify building [53:58] site sites that are equal to less than [53:59] 20% slope. It's actually already in [54:01] there. It doesn't have to be amended. [54:04] >> We would need to amend to delete the [54:06] parts of the bylaw that you do not wish [54:08] to include. So, um if you will indulge [54:11] for a moment, Mr. Joseph can read that [54:14] out for council. [54:15] >> Okay. [54:24] It was a hot day out there today. [54:31] This doesn't talk about pan handles. [54:34] Thank you all for your patience. [54:40] Yeah, that's right. Um [54:42] so, I'll just start from here. [54:45] We don't need to do anything with it. [54:49] Okay, so the amendments uh would be to [54:51] number two of the bylaw. [54:53] Uh that the Village of Anmore Official [54:55] Community Plan Designation Bylaw number [54:57] 532-2014 [54:58] be amended under chapter 4, Land Use, as [55:01] follows. [55:02] So, delete policy RLU 16 in its entirety and replace it with the [55:06] following. [55:08] And uh I'll just read out the sections. [55:11] So, policy RLU 16, and this is uh what [55:14] it is already currently written for this [55:16] intro paragraph. The village supports [55:18] infill development and subsequent [55:19] creation of new residences that maintain [55:21] the existing semi-rural nature of [55:22] Anmore. Infill development is the [55:24] creation of new parcels within the [55:25] existing developed area of the Village [55:27] of Anmore that are serviced by existing [55:29] infrastructure. The intent of infill [55:30] development is that it will enhance and [55:31] not take away from the look and feel of [55:33] the neighborhood. It is expected that [55:35] any new infill homes will blend into the [55:37] existing neighborhood, minimize the [55:38] disturbance to natural environment, and [55:40] will adhere to the same setbacks as the [55:41] existing neighborhood. Infill [55:43] development should be guided by infill [55:44] development policy that aligns with [55:45] specific requirements that the community [55:47] expects expects from infill development [55:49] to ensure that it meets the intent of [55:51] this policy. The maximum density allowed [55:53] for infill development is 2.04 parcels [55:55] per acre. [55:57] Parcels that are eligible for [55:58] consideration under this policy must not [56:00] have been created through previous [56:01] comprehensive development plan, [56:03] be between 300 3 3,925 square meters and [56:07] 8,900 8,094 square meters in area, [56:13] be able to identify building sites that [56:15] are equal to or greater than 20% slope, [56:20] not require the extension, expansion, [56:22] extension or expansion of any village [56:24] road or water infrastructure, [56:26] and have at least 50 m frontage on a [56:28] public highway, [56:30] and have been in existence for at least [56:31] 5 years as of the date of the [56:33] application. [56:39] » Yes. [56:41] We're So, for those people listening, [56:43] we're striking off the back half of item [56:46] five. [56:47] >> Correct. [56:52] » Okay. [56:53] >> I move it. [56:54] >> Move it. Could I get someone to second [56:55] it? [56:57] >> Second. [56:58] Open up for discussion. [57:02] Any discussion? [57:03] Seeing none, I'll call the question. [57:05] >> All those in favor? [57:07] Opposed? Motion's carried. [57:10] >> Okay. [57:10] >> And that's ordered through the chair. [57:11] I'll just read out the rest of the [57:12] recommendations for the referrals that [57:14] are required, [57:15] as well as public hearing. [57:17] >> Oh, what what's now required for public [57:20] hearing? [57:20] >> Yes. [57:21] >> Yeah, that cuz yeah, yeah, it was the [57:23] package. [57:25] >> Um so, following that uh and that uh and [57:29] more official community plan amendment [57:31] bylaw number 722-2025 be referred to the [57:33] following committees as it relates to [57:35] the mandate of each committee. [57:37] And that in relation to the Village of [57:39] Anmore Official Community Plan Amendment [57:40] Bylaw number 722-2025, [57:42] amendments associated with the proposed [57:44] updates to policy R only 16 infill [57:46] development, Council will provide the [57:47] following additional opportunities it [57:48] considers appropriate for consultation [57:49] with persons, organizations, or [57:51] authorities it considers will be [57:52] affected, including the municipalities [57:54] of the Village of Belcarra and the City [57:56] of Port Moody, School District number [57:58] 43, Musqueam, Squamish, Tsleil-Waututh, [58:01] and Kwikwetlem First Nations, and that a [58:02] public hearing be scheduled following [58:03] the referral process. [58:06] >> Do we need to move that in [58:09] Okay, [clears throat] can someone to [58:10] move that? Second? I'll [58:13] call the question. All those in favor? [58:16] Carried. [58:18] Do we have more to add? [58:20] >> Did you want to add any committees for [58:22] >> No. [58:22] >> Okay. [58:23] >> We Yeah. [58:24] >> That's right. [58:27] » Okay. So, can we move on to uh 9B? [58:33] Are we good? [58:40] Oh, right. Oh, you can get [59:18] Okay, we're now on to uh 9B Zoning [59:21] Amendment Bylaw classification on [59:23] basement exemption report dated July [59:25] 17th, 2020 from Manager of Development [59:27] Services attached. Mr. Joseph. [59:29] >> Thank you. [59:31] So, the purpose of this report is to [59:32] present bylaw number 745-2026, [59:34] a zoning amendment bylaw that clarifies [59:36] how the basement exemption applies under [59:37] section 5.25 of the zoning bylaw, along [59:40] with the related housekeeping correction [59:41] to section 5.6. So, at the May 5th [59:44] regular council meeting, staff brought [59:45] forward proposed amendments to the [59:47] section 5.25, the basement exemption [59:49] provision. Council deferred that [59:51] discussion and asked staff to come back [59:52] with visual impact modeling to see what [59:53] the current regulations allow in terms [59:55] of building massing. Staff returned on [59:57] the June 12th with a report that [59:59] included visual representations of [1:00:00] what's permitted under the under the [1:00:02] existing rule and identified the [1:00:04] specific sections proposed to be [1:00:05] clarified. At that meeting, council [1:00:07] passed a motion directing staff to [1:00:09] initiate amendments to section 5.25 and [1:00:11] section 5.6. Additional sections are [1:00:14] being proposed to provide greater [1:00:15] clarity in relation to the basement [1:00:16] exemption. [1:00:17] So, the current formula in section 5.25 [1:00:20] from [1:00:21] letters A through D that determines how [1:00:23] much basement floor area is exempt from [1:00:25] the floor area ratio calculation will [1:00:27] remain the same. What the amendment does [1:00:29] is add three new sections, E, F, and G, [1:00:32] that address how the exemption applies [1:00:33] across the building. Uh because the [1:00:35] current wording may incentivize numerous [1:00:36] exposed basement floors that would be [1:00:38] eligible for 100% basement exemption, [1:00:41] which would increase the apparent [1:00:42] massing of the building. [1:00:44] There is currently no limit on how many [1:00:45] stories in a single building can qualify for the full basement exemption. [1:00:49] So, on slope lots, final finished grade [1:00:51] and building design can produce two or [1:00:53] more stories that each meet the [1:00:54] definition of a basement, some of them [1:00:56] partially exposed, which can make a [1:00:57] building look like it's four to six [1:00:59] stories tall from the street level. [1:01:01] Subsection E fixes this by limiting the [1:01:03] exemption to no more than one uppermost [1:01:05] basement story per building. [1:01:07] Sub-basement stories below that would [1:01:09] still be permitted, but they would count [1:01:10] towards the lot's maximum floor area [1:01:12] ratio like any other floor area. [1:01:15] The second consideration is height of a [1:01:17] story. As currently worded, there's no [1:01:18] cap on the floor-to-floor height that [1:01:20] the exempt story uh would apply to, [1:01:23] which means a single basement story [1:01:24] could be built well beyond the typical [1:01:26] story height and still only count count [1:01:28] as one story for the purposes of [1:01:30] subsection E. So, subsection F caps the [1:01:33] exempt story at 3.66 m, which is 1/3 of [1:01:36] our 111 m maximum building height, [1:01:39] essentially the height of one story [1:01:40] within a standard three-story envelope. [1:01:42] However, staff have also included [1:01:44] subsection G. It provides a full 100% [1:01:46] exemption for stories below the exempt [1:01:48] basement story, but only where that [1:01:50] story is completely buried entirely [1:01:51] below finished grade at every point [1:01:53] around the building's perimeter. [1:01:57] Staff recognize that the story with no [1:01:58] exterior exposure at all doesn't [1:02:00] contribute to the parent massing of the [1:02:01] building, so staff have included the [1:02:02] section to differentiate between a [1:02:04] partially exposed stories. [1:02:06] Finally, staff are proposing a [1:02:07] housekeeping amendment to section 5.6.1, [1:02:09] which clarifies how building height is [1:02:10] measured, so that it's based on a lower [1:02:12] of the average natural grade or average [1:02:14] finished grade. Right now, that section [1:02:15] doesn't quite line up with section [1:02:17] 5.5.2, [1:02:19] which already uses that standard, and [1:02:20] this brings the two into alignment, and [1:02:22] it also reflects the current staff [1:02:23] practice. [1:02:25] So, the recommendation is that council [1:02:26] give first and second reading to [1:02:27] Ambleside Amendment Bylaw number [1:02:29] 745-2026 [1:02:30] related to section 5.25 basement [1:02:32] exemption and section 5.6 building and [1:02:34] structure height, and that a public [1:02:36] hearing be scheduled for Bylaw 745-2026. [1:02:39] Thank you. [1:02:40] >> Could I get someone to move that? [1:02:43] Move, second, open up for discussion. [1:02:47] Anybody? Uh okay, I I I have a couple of [1:02:49] questions. And so, [1:02:53] I can't support this if it doesn't at [1:02:55] least offer a 9-ft ceiling height for [1:02:57] the basement. I don't have a problem [1:03:00] with basements going deeper [1:03:02] um than that, but I just wanted to [1:03:04] clarify cuz it's this is kind of compli- [1:03:06] I saw in here there was a calculation of [1:03:08] 2.75 m for the basement floor, but most [1:03:12] basements that I'm going into right now [1:03:14] are minimum 9-ft finished. And I I can't [1:03:17] do an 8-ft finish because again, we're [1:03:18] also supposed to be promoting suites in [1:03:21] the in these in these buildings as well. [1:03:23] So, if you can you confirm what the [1:03:25] finished height would be or [1:03:27] presume [1:03:28] you could give me the rough height as [1:03:29] well. It would probably be It would have [1:03:30] to be about 10 ft then. [1:03:32] >> Yeah, so the full story is 12 ft. [1:03:35] >> Okay. [1:03:35] >> So, it's 3.66 in the amendment bylaws. [1:03:38] >> So, it says on page seven [1:03:41] no greater than 2.75 m. [1:03:44] Which is 9 ft. [1:03:47] On page seven or sorry, 46 of your [1:03:49] report if there's a color picture of the [1:03:51] house up above it. [1:03:52] >> Yeah, so I think what you're referring [1:03:55] to is the previous report where I [1:03:56] referenced what West Vancouver's height [1:03:58] limit is for exempted story. What What [1:04:01] we're proposing is 1/3 of our current [1:04:03] height, which is 3.66. [1:04:04] >> 3.6 m. So, can you tell me what is 3 3.6 [1:04:08] in [1:04:08] >> 12 ft. [1:04:09] So, basement height would be 12 [1:04:12] ft. Could go down [1:04:13] >> from floor to floor. [1:04:14] >> Right. And it can go down into the [1:04:15] ground to make that 12 ft. [1:04:18] >> This only for the exempted portion is 12 [1:04:21] ft. Anything that's completely buried [1:04:23] there's no height there's no height. [1:04:26] cap. [1:04:28] >> Okay. [1:04:28] >> There's a full exemption. There's no [1:04:29] height cap. [1:04:30] >> Okay. [1:04:34] Do I have [1:04:36] Councillor Do you [1:04:38] >> Just to clarify, this is the 3.66 m is [1:04:42] only on the additional floor on the [1:04:45] exempted part when you're like building [1:04:47] on a hillside. [1:04:48] >> Correct. Correct. [1:04:52] Just on a hillside. [1:04:54] >> No, it it doesn't apply. This is just [1:04:56] primarily where the problem would exist. [1:04:58] >> Throughout, right? Yeah. Cuz you can on [1:05:00] a on a [1:05:01] slope or fairly fairly level lot, you [1:05:03] can still go down. [1:05:05] As you want, right? [1:05:06] >> Yeah, so they you could. [1:05:08] >> Yeah, and I guess one of my questions [1:05:11] that I had as well was on I guess it's the color one here which is page [1:05:15] six or 45. Just about where [1:05:19] average grade is and how that's [1:05:21] calculated. [1:05:24] » Yes, so we mean the average grade is is [1:05:26] >> If you could use that photo there just [1:05:28] to kind of give me I [1:05:30] an understanding [1:05:30] >> Which figure? Sorry. [1:05:31] >> The the bottom one. [1:05:33] >> Three? Figure three? [1:05:34] >> I guess it's the color probably one, [1:05:36] yeah. [1:05:37] >> Yeah, so it's it's where the perimeter [1:05:40] of the building meets the ground. And so [1:05:42] if it's going up a slope, that perimeter [1:05:44] goes up the slope with it. So if it's on [1:05:46] a fairly, you know, uh [1:05:48] even path, then the average grade [1:05:50] becomes the halfway number of where the perimeter meets the ground. [1:05:55] >> Okay. [1:05:59] That was all the questions. So you've [1:06:00] confirmed that the the basement there is [1:06:02] not a limit of of an 8-point, which is [1:06:03] great. So any other questions before I [1:06:05] call the questions? [1:06:07] Seeing none, all those in favor? [1:06:11] Carried unanimously. Thank you, Mr. [1:06:12] Joseph. [1:06:13] >> Thank you. [1:06:14] >> Okay. [1:06:15] Uh we'll now move on to [1:06:18] uh 12A Committee of the Whole meeting. [1:06:21] The following recreation was made. Uh [1:06:23] Mr. Boyd. [1:06:26] » Thank [clears throat] you, Worship. [1:06:28] Uh so the The purpose of this report is [1:06:30] to uh follows the introduction of the [1:06:33] development cost charges by the law, [1:06:35] which uh was uh [1:06:37] shown to council at Committee of the [1:06:39] Whole. It Uh this report provides a [1:06:40] brief summary of that introduction, [1:06:42] presents the proposed 2026 DCC [1:06:45] uh rate schedule for the village, and it [1:06:47] seeks council's direction to prepare a [1:06:49] draft DCC bylaw. [1:06:52] So a quick background. At the Committee [1:06:53] of the Whole, staff introduced the DCC [1:06:55] framework and the case for updating the [1:06:58] villages and charges. And just to [1:06:59] summarize that that is that the DCCs are [1:07:02] one-time charge for new development [1:07:04] authorized in the part 14 division 19 of [1:07:06] the LGA. [1:07:08] Uh that allows us to recover the growth [1:07:10] related share of capital costs of [1:07:12] infrastructure required to service new [1:07:13] development. [1:07:15] The village's existing DCC bylaw dates [1:07:17] to the 20 2005 and no longer reflects [1:07:20] current construction costs, the village [1:07:22] capital planning, or anticipated growth. [1:07:24] Provincial best practice is to update [1:07:26] the TCC program every 3 to 5 years. [1:07:30] Rates are established through a defined [1:07:31] methodology, projecting growth, [1:07:33] identifying the growth related capital [1:07:35] projects, [1:07:36] and costs, assigning each a benefit [1:07:39] allocation between existing and new [1:07:40] development, applying a municipal assist [1:07:42] factor, and dividing the recoverable [1:07:44] costs across the expected growth units. [1:07:48] Staff worked through the recreation tool [1:07:50] with council committee of the whole, [1:07:51] illustrating how the inputs [1:07:53] input assumptions produce the proposed [1:07:55] rates. A comparison with the neighboring [1:07:57] municipalities was provided for context, [1:07:59] and staff outlined the process ahead, uh [1:08:01] preparation of draft bylaw, [1:08:02] consultation, readings, approval by [1:08:05] inspector of municipalities, and then [1:08:07] adoption. [1:08:08] This report is just to advance this to [1:08:10] council uh for their consideration. [1:08:13] >> Good. [1:08:14] >> So, as we can see in the rate table [1:08:15] below, uh these were developed based on [1:08:17] the conversations that we had at the [1:08:19] committee of the whole. Um [1:08:22] Uh so, the residential rates are based [1:08:24] on occupancy assumptions of one suite [1:08:27] per single family house, adding an [1:08:28] incremental 1/2 person per lot, [1:08:30] consistent with the current small-scale [1:08:32] multi-use uh housing provision. This was [1:08:35] a conversation that we had at the [1:08:37] committee of the whole on whether we [1:08:39] should assume that there was going to be [1:08:41] more uptake or not of uh suites within [1:08:43] the village. Um staff could take this [1:08:46] away as well and and continue to look at [1:08:48] past uh building permit applications to [1:08:51] determine what the occupancy rate of [1:08:53] suites have been in the village over the [1:08:54] past 5 years. We currently haven't done [1:08:56] that. [1:08:58] Uh [1:08:59] okay, next one. Uh sundry sewer is is [1:09:02] not applicable cuz we don't have [1:09:03] sanitary sewers within the villages a [1:09:05] service. We currently only have it [1:09:07] within AGP. [1:09:10] And we don't anticipate building any [1:09:11] sewers of our own, so therefore there [1:09:12] are no projects. [1:09:14] Um, an important note was regarding [1:09:16] protective services. Although recent [1:09:18] provincial legislation added fire and [1:09:20] police facilities as eligible DCC [1:09:22] categories, fire protection in the [1:09:23] village is delivered through the Sasamat [1:09:25] fire protection service, a Metro [1:09:27] Vancouver regional district function. [1:09:29] And policing capital was not a cost [1:09:30] borne by the directly by the village. [1:09:32] therefore has no eligible [1:09:33] protective services capital cost on [1:09:36] which to base a charge. As noted above, [1:09:38] the [1:09:40] fire protection in the village is [1:09:41] delivered through fire Sasamat fire [1:09:42] protection service, a Metro Vancouver [1:09:44] regional district function, and the [1:09:46] associated capital assets, including the [1:09:47] fire hall, [1:09:48] are regional assets funded through the [1:09:50] service rather than by the village [1:09:52] directly. For this reason, the [1:09:53] growth-related capital cost for the [1:09:54] anticipated fire hall upgrades cannot be [1:09:57] recovered through the village's own [1:09:58] development cost charges. It is [1:10:00] nonetheless appropriate for the [1:10:01] development to contribute its fair share [1:10:03] towards these services. So, I therefore [1:10:05] recommend the village formally request [1:10:07] that Metro Vancouver consider [1:10:08] establishing a DCC for Sasamat fire [1:10:10] protection service to recover the [1:10:12] growth-related portion of the fire hall [1:10:14] upgrades cost consistent with the newly [1:10:16] eligible fire protection service [1:10:17] category under the LGA. Any such, uh, [1:10:20] charges would be developed, adopted, and [1:10:22] administered by Metro Vancouver through [1:10:24] its own bylaw and cost allocation [1:10:26] process in consultation with the Village [1:10:28] of Anmore and Belcarra as being [1:10:30] participating members of the service and [1:10:32] would apply in addition to the village's [1:10:34] DCC rather than through them. So, we [1:10:37] also, uh, prior, sorry, following the [1:10:39] publication of this report, we've also [1:10:41] received word back [1:10:44] from the province to clarify this note. [1:10:46] And I'll just read, uh, one particular [1:10:47] note from within their their email that [1:10:50] was, and I quote, "Our interpretation of [1:10:52] capital cost is that the capital asset [1:10:55] be owned or controlled by the local [1:10:57] government such that it is capitalized [1:10:59] on the audited financial statements of [1:11:01] the local government. So, [1:11:03] based on on that coming back from the [1:11:05] province, they kind of substantiated [1:11:06] what we thought in the past that that [1:11:08] because we don't actually own the asset, [1:11:10] we're not allowed to collect DCC. Again, [1:11:12] it's important to note that we we do [1:11:14] have a mechanism to collect it, but Amur [1:11:16] itself cannot collect it directly based [1:11:17] on legislation. [1:11:20] Uh okay, land use categories and zoning. [1:11:22] Uh the rate schedule presents charges [1:11:25] for a full range of land use categories. [1:11:26] So, the DCC framework is completely and [1:11:28] internally consistent. Some of these [1:11:30] categories do not currently permit or or [1:11:32] contemplated under the villages zone and [1:11:34] bylaw or OCP. The inclusion in the [1:11:37] schedule is for the calculation and [1:11:38] information purposes only. It does not [1:11:40] imply or confer any development [1:11:42] entitlement, zoning permissions, or [1:11:44] rights to develop these uses in the [1:11:46] village until the zone and bylaw is [1:11:47] amended to permit a given use. The [1:11:50] corresponding DCC rate has no [1:11:51] application, and the value set in the [1:11:53] rates now is that should council of the [1:11:55] future consider [1:11:57] enabling any of these uses, a defensible [1:11:59] charge would be already be established [1:12:01] and showing that any such development [1:12:03] contributes fair share towards [1:12:04] growth-related infrastructure. [1:12:06] And then lastly, uh park acquisition [1:12:09] charges. Uh the proposed schedule does [1:12:11] not include a park acquisition DCC. [1:12:13] While park acquisition is an eligible [1:12:15] category under the Local Government Act, [1:12:16] a defensible parks DCC must be grounded [1:12:19] in adopted parkland [1:12:21] provision standard, typically expressed [1:12:23] as an amount of parkland per capita or [1:12:25] per dwelling, from which the quan- the [1:12:28] quantity and cost of the land need to be [1:12:30] need to serve growth can be determined. [1:12:32] The village does not currently have a [1:12:33] policy establishing a park provision [1:12:35] standard. In its absence, there is no [1:12:37] defensible basis on which to determine [1:12:39] the per capita land requirement or the [1:12:41] associated acquisition cost, and the [1:12:43] parks acquisition charge has therefore [1:12:44] been excluded at this time. Should [1:12:46] council wish to pursue parkland [1:12:48] acquisition funding through DCC in in in [1:12:50] the future, staff would first recommend [1:12:52] adoption of the park acquisition policy [1:12:54] standard and would then allow a park DCC [1:12:57] to be calculated and incorporated into [1:12:59] the bylaw amendment. [1:13:02] Then finally, financial implications. [1:13:04] The the the financial implication [1:13:06] obviously there's there's none related [1:13:08] to staff direct the the [1:13:11] uh to the village directly. The [1:13:13] However, there would obviously be a cost [1:13:15] association with managing the DCC's work [1:13:19] and once adopted the DCC charges are [1:13:20] expected to materially improve the [1:13:22] village's ability to fund growth related [1:13:24] water drainage and road infrastructure [1:13:26] from development rather than from [1:13:28] general tax base. [1:13:31] Lastly, next steps [1:13:33] from staff recommendations would be to [1:13:35] prepare the draft development cost [1:13:36] charges bylaw incorporating the proposed [1:13:38] rate schedule and supporting background [1:13:39] study, consult with the development [1:13:41] community and other interested parties [1:13:43] consistent with the provincial [1:13:44] guidelines, request Metro Vancouver [1:13:47] consider establishing a development cost [1:13:48] charge for Semiahmoo fire protection [1:13:50] services to recover the growth related [1:13:52] cost of the firehall upgrades, and bring [1:13:54] the draft bylaw to council for [1:13:56] consideration. [1:13:59] Okay, I can read the resolution if [1:14:02] you wish you wish to. [1:14:04] >> Sure. [1:14:04] >> Okay, that staff be directed to bring [1:14:06] the draft development cost charges bylaw [1:14:09] forward to council for consideration and [1:14:11] that staff be directed to undertake [1:14:13] consultation with the development [1:14:14] community and other interested parties [1:14:16] on the proposed development cost charges [1:14:18] and that staff be directed to contact [1:14:19] Metro Vancouver in relation to [1:14:21] consideration of the establishing a [1:14:23] development cost charge bylaw for [1:14:24] Semiahmoo fire protection services. [1:14:27] >> Good. Can I get someone to move that? [1:14:30] Moved and second open up for some [1:14:32] discussion. [1:14:33] Mr. Boyd, just for clarity, I just [1:14:35] wanted to who did you talk to at the [1:14:37] province regarding the Metro Vancouver's [1:14:39] role with the Semiahmoo volunteer fire [1:14:41] department so I can follow up with them. [1:14:44] >> One second. [1:14:49] » Or Ms. Elwork, who did it that [1:14:50] >> I've got it. It's uh Ministry of Housing [1:14:52] and Municipal Affairs uh the financial [1:14:54] office and uh [1:14:55] >> And is there a Do you have a person [1:14:56] there? [1:14:57] >> Uh the person that sent to us was Jenny [1:15:00] Chang. [1:15:00] >> Could I get a copy of that, please? [1:15:03] >> I can circulate it to all of council. [1:15:04] >> Perfect. Thanks. [1:15:05] Um the reason I say that, Mr. Boyd, is [1:15:07] that we um [1:15:09] I was concerned about this because [1:15:10] again, there is such confusion when it [1:15:12] comes to the fire department um and the [1:15:14] real clarity of it is is that the uh [1:15:17] Metro Vancouver [1:15:18] simply we pay them a service to operate [1:15:20] the fire department and the assets are [1:15:22] actually owned by each of the [1:15:23] municipalities. And they've given a [1:15:25] legal ruling saying that we should be [1:15:27] collecting the DCCs and it should be [1:15:28] part of this program. So I'd I'd [1:15:30] certainly like to to flush that out a [1:15:32] little bit because I know it is somewhat [1:15:33] confusing. So but anyway, it's been uh [1:15:36] I'll I'll follow up cuz I Metro [1:15:38] Vancouver had some interest there. Ms. [1:15:39] Alaric. [1:15:40] >> Sorry, Mayor McKeown. I may have [1:15:42] misunderstood. Um did you say who gave a [1:15:45] legal ruling regarding this? [1:15:46] >> No, that opinion that we that I [1:15:48] distributed to staff and council was [1:15:50] there from a legal aspect. [1:15:55] From I think it was Mr. Brant, Brant [1:15:57] Smith or whatever sent that out this [1:15:58] morning. [1:16:00] So [1:16:01] anyway, open up any [1:16:03] Councilor Craig. [1:16:04] >> Did we have a [1:16:05] Why was it sent to Metro? Did we have a [1:16:07] motion to send it to them? I thought [1:16:09] that was done after. Yeah, as a [1:16:11] >> As a fire trustee, I sent it there cuz I [1:16:13] was sure unclear of it why it was being [1:16:15] uh separated here. So [1:16:18] >> Okay. [1:16:20] Councilor Richardson. [1:16:24] » Okay, I'm trying to wrap my head around [1:16:25] all that. [1:16:27] So in summary, cuz it was a bit hard to [1:16:29] hear. [1:16:31] If the village owns the asset, we can [1:16:34] charge or plans to own the asset, we can [1:16:37] charge DCCs. [1:16:40] Is that correct? [1:16:41] >> So yeah, it has to be on our financial. [1:16:43] That's right. [1:16:44] >> Sorry, through the chair, it must be [1:16:47] owned or controlled by the local [1:16:49] government such that it is capitalized [1:16:51] on the audited financial statements of [1:16:53] the local government, which in this case [1:16:55] it is not. [1:16:57] >> Okay, so ju- just just on that cuz when [1:16:59] I read the letter from Metro, [1:17:02] I didn't hear a clear opinion that we [1:17:05] could collect DCCs on them. I thought [1:17:08] our plan was that we were going to ask [1:17:10] Metro, since it's their asset, to [1:17:12] collect DCCs like they do for [1:17:17] uh water and sewer directly to the [1:17:20] village. So, Metro Vancouver would [1:17:21] charge the DCCs. Is that correct? [1:17:23] >> Mitch would collect DCCs for the water [1:17:25] that is outside of the village that [1:17:27] comes to the village. [1:17:30] >> Yeah, but they they do collect for those [1:17:33] services. [1:17:35] So, Metro Vancouver we haven't got an [1:17:37] answer back from Metro Vancouver that [1:17:38] they can they can collect. [1:17:41] >> Through the chair, we have not formally [1:17:43] reached out to Metro Vancouver. Um Mayor [1:17:45] McKeown, uh I understand reached out to [1:17:47] Metro Vancouver, but we're waiting for [1:17:49] direction from council. And as part of [1:17:52] the process, we would be reaching out to [1:17:53] Metro Vancouver. Um as we indicated, [1:17:56] we've already reached out and got [1:17:58] response back from the province. And [1:17:59] additionally, we will be um [1:18:02] seeking legal advice through the village [1:18:04] solicitor who will be uh preparing the [1:18:07] bylaw for us, and we have had some [1:18:09] preliminary discussion with them on [1:18:10] this, and will continue to explore [1:18:12] options on um [1:18:15] how we may collect DCCs. [1:18:17] >> Okay. And then my last question is, [1:18:20] like if we were planning to build a [1:18:22] water reservoir in 20 years to support [1:18:26] our growth, we could collect DCCs on [1:18:29] that project, could we not? [1:18:33] Mr. Boyd? [1:18:33] >> Mr. Boyd's shaking his head as I think [1:18:35] yes. [1:18:36] >> Yeah, correct. It is provided it it was being built in relation to the [1:18:41] growth within the village. So So, [1:18:43] typically that would be the answer to [1:18:44] that. [1:18:45] >> So, therefore, if we got commitment from [1:18:47] Metro Vancouver that once it was all [1:18:49] paid off, they would transfer [1:18:52] the fire hall to Anmore, [1:18:55] then that would be the same thing. We're [1:18:57] just going through some other path, are [1:18:59] we not? [1:19:01] >> I suppose the answer would be [1:19:03] >> No, concurrently. [1:19:04] >> Sorry, to share the um assets that are [1:19:07] already developed, we can't post a DCC [1:19:10] after the fact. So, the assets are [1:19:13] currently held under Metro's financial [1:19:16] statements. As such, that's why we we [1:19:18] would propose to go through Metro's DCC [1:19:21] bylaw. [1:19:25] » I I What's the question, Councillor [1:19:27] Richardson? Could we transfer the [1:19:28] ownership for the fire hall to the [1:19:30] village? [1:19:32] >> Yeah, Lena kind of answered it. It's [1:19:34] like [1:19:35] it We already [clears throat] The [1:19:36] asset's already there, but we just get [1:19:39] it transferred at the end doesn't count [1:19:40] is what I heard. But, you know, I was at [1:19:43] the Well, we could build it for 20 years [1:19:45] and then maybe it would, but [1:19:47] anyway. [1:19:49] But, you know, [1:19:50] >> [laughter] [1:19:51] >> it's it is a bit of a convoluted mess [1:19:53] cuz we as trustees we went through this [1:19:55] in the fact if we were to ever to [1:19:56] separate, how do the assets get divided? [1:20:00] And so, it is a very it's not an easy easy ask whatsoever. So, I've got [1:20:05] uh Councillor Trowbridge. [1:20:08] » Thank you. Yeah, my understanding of the [1:20:10] motion that's in front of us though is [1:20:12] that staff is going to explore every [1:20:14] opportunity to recover DCCs in whatever [1:20:19] route uh through whatever legal process. [1:20:23] So, [1:20:24] uh I'm in favor of just moving this [1:20:25] forward and letting staff do their job. [1:20:29] >> Good. Um [1:20:30] any other questions or anything else? I had one, Mr. Boyd, regarding the park [1:20:35] DCC. [1:20:36] Um, I read through the parks master plan [1:20:39] and from page one on, it talks about us [1:20:42] implementing a park DCC. And I know [1:20:44] Metro Vancouver, we've recently done [1:20:46] that in the last year and it was very well received because again, as [1:20:50] you're creating and in this case, there [1:20:52] seems to be possibly an incentive for [1:20:55] more multi-family because of the costing [1:20:57] of of the DCCs being proposed. The green [1:21:00] space that's going to be required in [1:21:01] that. So, is is that something that [1:21:03] could be added on to this DCC cuz it's [1:21:06] referenced quite heavily in the fact in [1:21:08] the parks master plan, which I guess was [1:21:10] done sort of 2015-2016. [1:21:15] » For sure, yeah. I mean, the the village [1:21:16] have the right to to acquire DCCs for parkland acquisition. [1:21:22] Again, the policy just needs to be [1:21:23] written mainly to it. So, [1:21:25] I wouldn't recommend attaching it to [1:21:26] this DCC because it's going to take a [1:21:28] little bit of time consultation to get [1:21:30] through that unless it's council's will. [1:21:32] But, most certainly, you you can write a [1:21:35] DCC for parkland. [1:21:37] >> Yeah, and I just I also wanted to just [1:21:39] add that, you know, Metro Vancouver, [1:21:41] this Friday, we're actually going to [1:21:43] reduce DCCs that Metro Vancouver's [1:21:45] employ [1:21:49] instigated because of the fact of the [1:21:51] and it has to go to the register of uh [1:21:54] of municipalities of Victoria and there [1:21:57] seems to be this big push in reducing [1:21:58] costs to be able to produce housing. So, [1:22:00] we're not sure whether this will get [1:22:02] approved, but we'll we'll certainly put [1:22:04] it forward, but I'm looking forward to [1:22:05] some to having some more discussion. [1:22:07] It's a significant raise to what we're [1:22:09] currently paying, which is currently [1:22:10] about $10,700 [1:22:12] per lot that's being created and taking [1:22:14] it up to 23,000. It's It's significant. [1:22:17] And then, when you throw on, you know, [1:22:19] the Metro portion, TransLink, you know, [1:22:22] we're at $32,000 for the creation of a [1:22:25] lot, 33,042 [1:22:27] for the creation of a lot, which is significant. So. [1:22:33] Good. Okay, no further questions. I'll [1:22:35] call the question. All those in favor? [1:22:38] Opposed? Carried unanimously. Thank you, [1:22:40] Mr. Boyd. [1:22:41] >> Thank you. [1:22:42] >> Uh okay, now we'll move on to the [1:22:44] mayor's report. I don't really have a [1:22:45] lot. Uh please be cautious. The water uh [1:22:49] restrictions went down to phase or to [1:22:51] level two. [1:22:52] So, you are allowed to water shrubs uh [1:22:55] and hand watering. Allowed to wash your [1:22:57] car. [1:22:58] Um fire ban is in. It's I know that a [1:23:01] new fire just opened up in the Fraser [1:23:03] Valley tonight. It's it's a very, very [1:23:06] precarious time right now. We need to [1:23:07] get through the next couple weeks. [1:23:08] Hopefully, I think there's going to be [1:23:09] some rain due on Saturday and Sunday. [1:23:12] And I think that's about it. I'll move [1:23:15] on counselor's reports. Counselor [1:23:17] Richardson. [1:23:19] >> Okay, three things. One for the public [1:23:23] and I think [1:23:24] Miss Elrick might cover this is election [1:23:27] dates [1:23:29] uh for the information sessions. [1:23:33] » Through the chair, is that for candidate [1:23:36] information [1:23:37] >> Yes. [1:23:38] >> sessions? [1:23:38] Um yes, he stole my thunder. [1:23:40] >> Okay, so I'll let you [1:23:42] go ahead. [1:23:42] >> go ahead. [1:23:43] >> [laughter] [1:23:43] >> Okay, go. [1:23:44] >> No, I [1:23:45] happy to give you the dates um [1:23:46] >> No, no, just save it. I don't need to. [1:23:49] Um the other thing was mentioned [1:23:50] earlier, this was the last meeting for [1:23:52] public input until after the election. [1:23:55] So, what public question period? Say [1:23:57] your peace or forever hold your more. [1:24:00] Um [1:24:01] on garbage days, it's interesting to me [1:24:03] because the bears go around and tip [1:24:05] garbage over. [1:24:06] And unfortunately, or fortunately, it [1:24:09] lets me see what people are throwing [1:24:10] out. [1:24:12] And I have to say I'm a bit appalled on [1:24:16] the recyclables and compostables that [1:24:19] are in garbage bins. I don't know if [1:24:21] there's anything we can do about it, but [1:24:22] glass bottles, clear plastic, films, etc., etc., etc. And it [1:24:28] drives me nuts. So, um I just want to [1:24:30] say [1:24:32] it doesn't take a lot of time. Please [1:24:34] put more care in your garbage and [1:24:36] recyclables. [1:24:38] And then the last thing is I bumped into [1:24:40] Jay Sharp a few times at my office, [1:24:42] which is [1:24:44] the leftmost seat at Starbucks at 1:30 [1:24:47] most days. [1:24:49] And we've had chats with other residents [1:24:51] about the fire halls. [1:24:53] And I suggested to Mr. Sharp that he [1:24:57] could do a town hall or something cuz it [1:24:59] he brings the temperature down of people [1:25:01] who are quite upset. [1:25:02] And he informed me that he cannot do [1:25:05] that without the approval of the [1:25:07] trustees. [1:25:08] And really council has this council has [1:25:11] no say [1:25:12] on [1:25:14] the fire thing other than through the [1:25:15] trustees. So, I make my request to the [1:25:18] Anmore trustees, could you request or [1:25:21] give permission to Mr. Sharp to do a [1:25:23] town hall [1:25:24] on the fire halls? That would be greatly [1:25:26] appreciated by the residents at large. [1:25:29] Thank you. [1:25:29] >> I I actually believe there's going to be [1:25:31] an RFP coming out. There'll be an [1:25:32] actually a special meeting for the for [1:25:35] the handy note of the RFP for the design [1:25:37] and everything. So, that would be a [1:25:38] perfect opportunity to to get people out [1:25:40] to ask questions. So, [1:25:42] to me. [1:25:43] Okay. Uh Chief Administrative Report. [1:25:48] >> Thank you. [1:25:50] The election candidate [1:25:52] um sessions. Um and these are the [1:25:54] sessions that are uh administered by our [1:25:58] Chief Election Officer, Lori Darkis, [1:26:01] um where potential candidates can find [1:26:04] out uh about the election process, about [1:26:07] uh [1:26:08] what uh [1:26:10] being an elected official uh looks like, [1:26:13] and and responsibilities related to [1:26:15] that. So, we are looking at holding two [1:26:17] info sessions this time. Um all of this [1:26:19] information will be up on the village [1:26:21] website in the coming weeks as well, but [1:26:23] the dates for the info sessions will be [1:26:25] in the evening August 27th and September [1:26:29] 2nd [1:26:30] uh right now. And uh so, please check [1:26:33] for that and other information and [1:26:35] updates on the election uh page, which [1:26:38] is on the Village of Anmore website, and [1:26:40] we will be uh more targeted uh [1:26:43] communication coming out on that. Um and [1:26:45] then additionally further to um the [1:26:49] recommendation this evening, uh watch [1:26:51] for um [1:26:53] early September. We expect that we will [1:26:55] be having uh an information session um [1:26:59] firstly for the development community, [1:27:00] but then secondly um for the broader [1:27:03] public on uh development cost charges [1:27:06] and uh what exactly they are and uh how [1:27:10] they're determined and and projects and [1:27:12] whatnot um just so that the general [1:27:14] public uh understands the uh DCCs and [1:27:18] the bylaw before it comes back to [1:27:20] council uh hopefully later in September. [1:27:23] That's it for me. [1:27:24] >> Good. Thank you. I've got uh some [1:27:27] general correspondence letter dated from [1:27:28] the chair of the regional district of [1:27:30] the Central Okanagan and town of Lake [1:27:32] Country. Public input and question [1:27:34] period. This is the last one, so [1:27:37] I thought you said it was the Is it the [1:27:39] last one? It is, yeah. So, please name and address, please. [1:27:43] >> Is this working? [1:27:44] >> You're [1:27:45] >> product 1815 East Road. I'm just [1:27:47] wondering if the municipality proper, I [1:27:51] mean, [1:27:52] uh the village is exempt from the water [1:27:55] restrictions. I see, for example, circle [1:27:58] hoses out here and [1:27:59] uh or something that's making the plants [1:28:02] grow quite well. And I was just [1:28:04] wondering if the village is uh exempt from water [1:28:08] restrictions [1:28:09] uh when we were [1:28:11] uh obeying them. [1:28:12] >> Well, the water restrictions now are [1:28:14] down back to a level two, so you are [1:28:16] allowed to hand water shrubs and that, [1:28:18] yeah. [1:28:18] >> But, water is we uh [1:28:20] the residents were restricted from using [1:28:22] soaker hoses. [1:28:24] >> I don't know how the vegetation out here [1:28:26] grew out [1:28:27] quite [1:28:28] quickly and must have been fed by water. [1:28:31] I'm just wondering if there's exemptions [1:28:33] for the village and not for residents. [1:28:36] >> Just for clarity, are you talking about [1:28:38] the ferns that came up from the dirt [1:28:40] area in the front? [1:28:41] >> and also at the steps here. [1:28:43] >> Uh I don't know about the steps, but [1:28:44] those darned ferns, [1:28:46] they they come up no matter what you do. [1:28:50] So, in the front around like on the east [1:28:53] Sunny Side Road section, all the green [1:28:55] that came up through the newly laid in [1:28:56] soil, I don't think that was watered at [1:28:58] all. [1:28:59] >> Okay, Joe. [1:29:00] And I was just curious. Thank you. [1:29:02] >> Thank you. [1:29:12] » Hi, this is Mike 2555 Sunny Side Road. [1:29:15] Um [1:29:17] I don't know if I'm allowed to how I'm [1:29:18] going to be able to ask these questions. [1:29:20] Do I do it through you? [1:29:22] >> Yeah. [1:29:22] >> Because it's a contractor and it's also [1:29:25] a member of the staff [1:29:27] that I have these questions for. [1:29:30] >> Can you send me an email about it or [1:29:32] >> Uh [1:29:34] >> Can you generalize what what it [1:29:35] >> Okay. Well, [1:29:37] >> Uh we don't want anybody's name [1:29:38] mentioned or anything like that. [1:29:40] >> No, I'm not Well, May 5th, I uh we had [1:29:43] the council meeting. After the meeting, [1:29:46] we talked about the drainage of the [1:29:47] Spirit Park. After the meeting, I met [1:29:50] with the city ca- the municipal [1:29:52] contractor in charge of that and we set [1:29:56] up for a time, 2:00 the next day to [1:29:59] go and and meet over there. Um I was [1:30:03] there for more than half an hour, [1:30:06] gave up because he never showed up. So, [1:30:08] May 6th, the next day or that day, um I [1:30:12] phoned city hall when I went in and I I [1:30:16] asked the receptionist or whoever [1:30:17] answered the phone, um what do I do? Can [1:30:20] I have his number? She said, "No, I'll [1:30:22] leave a posted note for him. I will get [1:30:25] him to contact you and also email him." [1:30:29] So, I emailed him. That was on May 6th. [1:30:34] June 23rd, I I also left my phone [1:30:36] number. June 23rd, I sent another email. [1:30:39] This time I CC'd one of the staff. I'm [1:30:42] not allowed to say which staff because [1:30:45] we're not allowed to say names. Uh that [1:30:47] was June 23rd. I emailed the staff [1:30:49] saying, "Hey, um well, not the staff. I [1:30:52] CC'd the staff and I emailed the [1:30:54] contractor. [1:30:56] And I said, um we were supposed to meet. [1:30:59] That was a month ago. I waited a month. [1:31:02] How come we didn't meet? Here's my phone [1:31:04] number. Can we please meet?" Then, um [1:31:07] today is the 20 [1:31:09] >> first of July. I still have not received [1:31:13] any correspondence from the city staff [1:31:16] and the contractor in charge and they've [1:31:18] already um sent the tender out for that [1:31:22] or awarded the tender. So, so who do I [1:31:24] What do I do? [1:31:25] >> If I can ask if you can send me that [1:31:29] string of emails [1:31:30] and and that and then I will I'll talk [1:31:33] to Karen [1:31:33] >> Okay. [1:31:34] >> uh Ms. Halbert. [1:31:34] >> Okay. Yeah, because [1:31:36] >> Okay. [1:31:36] >> I'm I'm frustrated that it's been 2 [1:31:38] months and it's been a month for the [1:31:41] city staff to get back to me as well as [1:31:43] the contractor. 2 months. [1:31:45] >> Okay. So. [1:31:45] >> Okay. [1:31:46] Any other questions before [1:31:50] Okay, motion to adjourn. [1:31:52] Moved. Second. All those in favor? [1:31:54] Carried unanimously and thank you [1:31:55] everyone. Have a great summer. [1:31:58] We'll see you in September. [1:32:08] » Mhm.