[0:05] >> thank you. Good evening. Welcome to the city council meeting for the city of anna.
[0:11] city council of the city of anna will meet on tuesday, september 23rd, 2025 at 6:00 pm.
[0:16] the anna municipal complex, council chamber is located at 120, west 7th street, to consider the following items. Again, welcome to the meeting.
[0:22] if you wish to speak at an open session agenda item, please fill out the opinion speaker registration form,
[0:27] and turn it into the city secretary before the meeting starts.
[0:31] item number 1, the agenda to call this meeting to order which we are.
[0:36] roll call the entire council is present, and of course, we do have a quorum.
[0:40] at this time, I'm going to ask councilwoman hernan, if you will lead us in our invocation and pledges.
[0:45] we're doing two pledges tonight. We're going to do american texas and from now on.
[0:52] >> let us bow our heads. Dear heavenly father. As we gather this evening,
[0:58] let us be mindful that every life matters. On september 10th, charlie kirk lost his life to a tragic act of violence.
[1:05] may this loss remind us to listen to one another, to choose compassion over animosity,
[1:10] and courage over fear. We ask you father to give strength to his family and loved ones,
[1:15] comfort to his supporters and peace and direction to all who were touched by this loss.
[1:20] lord, we also lift up our own community after the storms on sunday. Some of our neighbors were spared while others suffered great damage.
[1:27] we ask your protection and provision over every family affected and for your healing hand in the days ahead.
[1:34] help us come together, offering grace and support to those carrying heavier burdens.
[1:39] guide us in our work tonight so that our decisions reflect integrity, unity, and peace.
[1:44] may our deliberations heal rather than divide and may our city be a place where voices are heard and differences are respected.
[1:51] in jesus name, I pray. Amen. >>
[1:57] the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands,
[2:03] one nation under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[2:15] I pledge allegiance to thee one state under god, one and indivisible.
[2:22] I'm a texan and I screwed that up. [laughter]
[2:31] >> thank you. That will take us to item number 3, neighbor comments.
[2:37] at this time, any person may address the city council regarding an item on this meeting agenda that's not scheduled for public hearing.
[2:43] also at this time, any person may address the city council regarding an item that is not on the meeting agenda.
[2:47] each person will be allowed up to three minutes to speak. No discussion or action may be taken at this meeting on items not listed on this agenda,
[2:55] other than to make statements of specific information in response to a citizens inquiry or to recite existing policy in response to the inquiry.
[3:03] I do have one speaker this evening. It's andrew mckenna.
[3:16] >> good evening. My name is andrew mckenna. I live at 902 4 born drive,
[3:24] and of texas 75409.
[3:29] I'd like to start on the proclamation that you did for september for service stocks.
[3:42] on the last where as on the proclamation,
[3:48] the city of anna texas continues to work toward becoming
[3:55] an inclusive community in which all citizens and their trained service dogs are embraced.
[4:08] when I moved here in 2010,
[4:14] I brought my service dog with me and we're wondering why we didn't have a city park.
[4:24] well, I couldn't get really any answers. On 2018, I was appointed to the parks board,
[4:32] and I started asking some questions and wasn't really getting any answers and I requested
[4:41] documentation from the city and went through it and found out that the city had
[4:46] authorized a city park and it had been budgeted three years in a row.
[4:56] cleo and myself, we were going to
[5:01] parks board meetings and once I found out that you had authorized the dog park,
[5:09] my dog held up this sign to the city council at the time,
[5:13] wanted to know what the dog park was. Well, time went on
[5:20] and they went ahead
[5:27] and they built a dog park in december of 2019.
[5:34] I have a picture here where she held up a sign thanking the city council.
[5:42] would you like me to start it down there so you guys can look at it?
[6:07] since then at the age of 17,
[6:18] with 15 years of service dog training and experience,
[6:23] cleo passed away may 8th, 2023.
[6:28] at this time, I would request that the city council think
[6:39] about maybe honoring cleo by naming
[6:43] the dog park at natural springs park in her memory. Thank you for your time.
[6:52] >> thank you. That's something we can definitely consider. Thank you. Any more cards?
[7:02] that's it. Then it takes us to agenda item 4, reports.
[7:06] receive reports from staff or city council about items of community interest.
[7:15] first up, I have a presentation from anna community service results,
[7:20] assistant to the city manager, kimberly winarski.
[7:24] >> good evening, mayor and council. Kimberly winarski, assistant to the city manager.
[7:29] I'm inviting tobin mccarran to come up here and present the community survey results for 2025.
[7:36] he's from polco, the national research center, which is the group we consult with to do this survey so that it's statistically valid.
[7:45] with that, I will turn it over to him, and I'll be here for any questions.
[7:55] >> good evening. I'm tobin.
[8:00] while they're pulling the slide show up, or am I supposed to press that? There we go. I'm excited to be here to present
[8:06] the national community survey results from anna using the ncs this year.
[8:11] I'm tobin mccarran. I was a 25 year air force officer.
[8:16] I understand one of you was in the marines, one of you was in the navy, so I appreciate your service there.
[8:22] I do want before I start to thank charlie wagner,
[8:26] who was instrumental in helping us develop and implement the survey,
[8:30] and we worked with her the whole time. I'd also like to thank my colleague, lily vasquez, who did all the work for polco,
[8:37] and with charlie and the city of anna in order to come to these conclusions and get these results.
[8:43] I get the honor of presenting. She did all the work. Whole purpose of polco is to get data into the hands of
[8:51] community leaders so that they can make better data informed decisions.
[8:55] we acquired the nrc back in 2019. The nrc had actually been implementing the ncs,
[9:02] the survey that you performed with us since 2001. They had implemented other versions of it from 1994 and on.
[9:10] because of how long it goes back, we then can also compare you to communities
[9:14] like yourself when we are presenting these results.
[9:18] there are a few different ways communities use these results. They're up here.
[9:23] one is monitor trends and resident opinion, and also to benchmark against other communities.
[9:28] another is to measure government performance. Probably the most common way is they use these results to help inform their budget,
[9:36] land use, and strategic planning decisions. My hope is while I'm presenting this,
[9:40] that you will think of things that you could use this data for, maybe where you want to dive even deeper and
[9:46] how you can actually use this to make your community better. The ncs is a five-page questionnaire that has about 15 questions,
[9:55] but each question is like 10-15 parts so there's really a lot in there and we say 15 questions,
[10:00] but it's more like 120 ish that you end up getting asked on. All these questions focus in on 10 areas of community livability.
[10:08] these are the 10 facets that are up here. After extensive survey research,
[10:12] the survey research team has deemed that these are the ones that residents care
[10:17] the most about and really affects their quality of living and how they feel about the community.
[10:23] we ask overall questions that generalize into this and then we ask specific ones in each of these.
[10:28] these 10 facets also happen to really line up well with departments and a municipality.
[10:33] your city specifically has a parks rec department, an economic development department,
[10:37] a utilities department, and a myriad of others, and those department heads and departments might want to specifically look into
[10:44] that area and look at the questions that are asked there to get some more information and more detailed stuff.
[10:50] about your survey, we conducted it starting on june 23rd of this year,
[10:56] and it went for about seven weeks. How we actually make it a scientifically,
[11:01] statistically valid survey is we have to have a random distribution and a random population that we pull our sample from.
[11:08] what we do in order to get that is first, we from the usps,
[11:13] purchase a list of all households within the zip code that serves anna, texas.
[11:20] we then use the gis boundary provided by your city to overlap on that list of households so that we can see here's the zip code overall,
[11:28] and here's the city of anna, and we can take out the houses that are outside of anna.
[11:33] that leaves us with the households in the zip code and anna. We then randomly sample 3,000 of those households.
[11:41] here you can see we heard from 261 that fully completed the survey.
[11:45] the 261 responses alone is the reason we can say,
[11:49] our estimates that we're providing you are within 6% of the actual value 95% of the time.
[11:56] that 6% margin of error comes about because of those responses.
[12:00] if we were to have only gotten about 100 responses, you'd be like a 10%. If we were to get 10,000 responses, you'd be about 1%.
[12:08] we're at around 260, and so it's a 6% margin of error.
[12:12] that 95% confidence interval just means if we were to administer the survey 100 times,
[12:17] that 95% of the confidence intervals with that margin of error would contain the true estimate.
[12:24] we also performed a non statistically valid survey,
[12:29] where we allowed the city to just email out and flash out to the residents, say,
[12:34] here's a url you can go to and take this and then you
[12:38] don't randomly sample any group or type of people could get that.
[12:43] you could have some bias in there, and so we don't present with those results,
[12:47] but we have a pdf that we provided and there's a tableau report online that you can look that you would
[12:52] see the entirety of the results if you wanted to include those 588 responses.
[12:57] the results I'm about to show you are off the 261 because that's the scientifically valid ones.
[13:02] after we get the responses, we do weight them so that you can see how it is for the representativity of anna,
[13:09] and waiting is simply providing more weight towards those groups that respond less.
[13:13] simple way to think of this is if you had 1,000 men and 1,000 women in anna,
[13:18] and we surveyed 500 of each of them, and we only heard from 200 men and 100 women.
[13:24] well, then we would give the women twice the weight when we were telling you what the actual impact of the city or the feelings of the residents are.
[13:32] there are over 500 communities we have in this benchmarking database that we can compare you against.
[13:38] we actually have 40 of them here within texas. I just presented to mckinney probably two months ago.
[13:43] there's a few others that are right around us here in the dallas metroplex.
[13:47] I actually live in lucas, texas, so I'm 30 minutes south of here. I'm going to start out with an overview of your results.
[13:53] I'm going to keep a high level. About five slides of that, and then we're going to get into some specific key findings.
[13:59] the first slide I'm showing you is that we ask, what do your residents perceive as the quality of each of those 10 facets.
[14:07] here you can see what they said. They can rate that as excellent,
[14:12] good, fair, or poor, and we're showing you how many rated as excellent or good.
[14:16] the darker green that you're seeing is showing that that is similar to the benchmark,
[14:21] meaning that those residents rated the quality of safety, similar to residents in other communities.
[14:26] the light green is lower than the benchmark, and the yellow is much lower than the benchmark.
[14:33] in order to get lower and much lower, that's 10 percentage points, and then 20 percentage points different than what
[14:39] the national averages are. That's quality. The next one we ask is about importance of those same 10 facets.
[14:47] here, how important do you perceive each of these 10 things and they can rank them as percent essential,
[14:54] very somewhat or not important. Here we're showing you the ones that said it was essential or very important.
[15:00] here your standard is very normal to what the national benchmarks are. There's two exceptions.
[15:05] one, you can see that that blue, the community design, your residents rank that much more important than other residents and other communities.
[15:12] the other thing that's a little different on here is that utilities are so high. We typically see safety and economy as a number one and two, almost all the time.
[15:20] here, utilities tops both of those, which is still within benchmark standards,
[15:24] but is a little different than we would normally see. Now, here on this slide,
[15:29] we're putting the quality and the importance on the same graph, and we like to do this so that you can see the gap that's really there.
[15:36] where is it that we suggest the city of anna could focus efforts on?
[15:41] when I look at this, I see that the two biggest spreads are utilities and community design.
[15:45] I would think that my efforts could be best used in those two areas
[15:50] to try and bring that quality closer to where the importance is according to your residents.
[15:55] but then you also always face trade offs and so, where am I going to take resources from,
[15:59] whether that's time, money, people? I would look at this also for that and say, well, where are my smallest gaps?
[16:05] where is it closest that my quality is to my importance? Up there, I can see that parks and
[16:09] rec and natural environment look like they have the closest gap where those two are.
[16:13] perhaps I can take from those in order to give to the others. Obviously, this is the trade off you face and have to make the tough decision of.
[16:21] compared to national benchmarks. I've been sticking to the 10 facets.
[16:25] now we're breaking into all the individual questions that actually inform those different facets and you can see here there's
[16:32] 121 questions that we can compare to national benchmarks. Most of them were similar to the nation.
[16:38] two of them were actually higher than national benchmarks, and 49 of them were actually lower than national benchmarks.
[16:44] the two that were higher, I remember water resources was higher. I don't remember the other one. I can get up for you though.
[16:49] I brought it up here on my piece of paper if you want to hear that, but we won't go over the ones that are lower in the next few slides.
[16:55] this is comparing to national benchmarks. The next one is comparing to how you did back
[17:00] in 2022 when you implemented the survey with us. Here you can see that most of them received
[17:06] a similar or lower rating relative to how they were in 2022. There were four that received higher ratings.
[17:12] I talked about 10 percentage and 20 percentage in order to be different from national benchmarks for the time trends to be different as eight percentage points.
[17:20] >> now I'm going to get into the key findings. I've got seven to present to you and then your custom questions that you all asked on the survey.
[17:27] the first key finding is that safety remains and a strongest asset consistent with national averages despite some declines.
[17:34] here we're showing you about nine in ten residents feel safe
[17:39] in the neighborhood during the day and in the downtown or commercial areas during the day.
[17:43] this is similar to the national benchmarks. This is similar to your trend that you had your results from 2022,
[17:50] but you should be proud of this. I think I know it was 89% on the top one and
[17:55] 86% in the downtown commercial area felt they were safe during the day.
[18:00] then over there on the right, I'm also showing you two others that did did well in and fire services and ambulance or
[18:05] emergency medical services of your residents feeling like these were very top safety rated services.
[18:13] key finding two, environmental services are steady with progress in water resources,
[18:19] but overall ratings falling below benchmarks, and so getting into the details of that,
[18:24] you can see here that recycling, yard waste, and pick up, open space, and preservation of natural areas is similar to national benchmarks.
[18:32] your overall quality of the natural environment is lower, and then your water resources are much lower than national benchmarks,
[18:39] but there is good news. Your water resources did trend up, trended up more than eight percentage points.
[18:46] it was at, like, an 18%, and it's now up at what you see up there. Unfortunately, the overall quality of the natural environment
[18:52] actually declined relative to when you took it in 2022. The third key finding.
[18:59] engagement and inclusivity remain on par with national benchmarks and norms,
[19:04] but do trend downward. When I said on par, this is shown that every one of
[19:09] these is similar to what the national benchmarks are. It also shows those two attracting people from
[19:15] diverse backgrounds and making all residents feel welcome, do have a significant decline relative to what they were in 2022.
[19:24] the fourth key finding is that the quality of life has fallen below
[19:28] benchmarks with significant decline since 2022. Unfortunately, all four of these,
[19:34] we actually can measure this in five different ways, or we have five different questions that pertain to this,
[19:39] and all five of them are lower than national benchmarks. None of them are much lower all four of them.
[19:44] then these four are also trending downward relative to where they were in 2022.
[19:50] the other one that's not shown on here is also lower, but is the same or similar to what it was in 2022.
[20:00] the fifth key finding is that economic health and development have declined,
[20:05] falling below national benchmarks. While unfortunate and definitely something we all need to be aware of.
[20:11] this is a common theme we are seeing throughout the country on all the surveys we're performing this year,
[20:15] that most of the residents are rating the economy as worse relative to the last time they took it.
[20:21] I'm sure we can all speculate and hypothesize why that is, but know that it's a common sentiment among residents out there.
[20:29] if I'm looking at this specifically for anna, you can see that economic development,
[20:34] overall economic health are similar to the benchmarks. The overall quality of business and service establishments,
[20:39] and the other two that are in light green are lower than the national benchmarks.
[20:43] then there are two that are much lower and that's the vibrancy of your downtown commercial area and the shopping opportunities.
[20:50] we do have two downward trends here. You can see with the arrows over to the right,
[20:55] the top one and the overall economic health relative to 2022.
[21:02] public library services is on the rise, rate of the highest upward trend in services.
[21:07] we actually ask about 33 different questions on services, and this one was the highest trending up.
[21:13] it is still low relative to the benchmarks,
[21:18] but it is much better than it was in 2022. You can see that that's most that is a doubling of the percent that it was back in 2022,
[21:26] yet lower than the national benchmark. The other three that are up there on the top all similar,
[21:31] and then the health services is below the national benchmarks.
[21:35] the last key finding is that traffic and travel ratings show steep declines,
[21:41] making transportation a top priority, and I have two slides to show you on this one.
[21:45] this one is showing that two of these at the top are below national benchmarks,
[21:50] and the other three on the bottom are much lower. Unfortunately, three of them do have a decline
[21:56] going down relative to where they were in 2022. This next slide, all of these are actually similar to the national benchmarks,
[22:03] so your street cleaning traffic enforcement sidewalk maintenance and street repair, all on par with how the other cities are doing,
[22:10] but are downward declining trend relative to where you were in 2022.
[22:17] you can see on the left, roughly half of those people, half of your residents are rating those as excellent or good,
[22:22] whereas one third of rating street repairs excellent or good.
[22:27] you do have five custom questions that you'll asked in our survey.
[22:31] you don't need to worry about reading this slide, you're welcome to. I can't read it, but on the next slide,
[22:36] we're going to break down each questions so you can just see how it was responded, it's a little easier to read.
[22:40] in the past 30 days, how have you or members of your household typically traveled to places in town like the grocery store,
[22:47] work or doctor's appointment? Where you commonly go and you can see that most people use their vehicle.
[22:52] next, most would be r with the family member, and next is walked. Those are the three common ways that people seem to be getting around.
[22:59] there will be another question that kind of shows that. Next custom question was, how easy or difficult is it for members of
[23:04] your household to access basic services in town? You can see that roughly 88% said it is pretty easy,
[23:11] somewhat are very easy, whereas about 12% say that they have trouble actually accessing those basic services.
[23:17] the third question, would you support the city exploring new programs to improve transportation access,
[23:23] even if it required relocating funds, reallocating funds, or seeking outside funding?
[23:28] again, you can see the majority of people 69% say they would support it,
[23:33] and then the rest are somewhere between strongly opposed to oppose.
[23:38] your fourth custom question was, how important is it for the city to invest in each of
[23:44] the following in order to relieve traffic congestion? No doubt with the growth anna has seen,
[23:49] you've got traffic congestion. It's a common thing amongst growing cities, and you can see that pretty much everyone says we should work on road improvements,
[23:56] but when we get specific, like, well, how do we improve the roads? Adding more adding more vehicle lanes, bike lanes,
[24:02] and then sidewalks, or pedestrian walkways seem to be common amongst what your people want?
[24:08] the last custom question, is that in a typical week, how often do you use each of the following travel modes for work or personal reasons?
[24:15] it's kind of similar to that first question. You're seeing similar responses here, most people drive themselves.
[24:20] that's 84% are driving themselves. Then the next group, there's about 19%,
[24:25] there are walking either three to five or six to seven, and the rest are car pooling.
[24:29] there are a few below that, but for the most part, that's what most people are doing within your community.
[24:34] I'd like to point this out.
[24:38] as a customer of ours, you do have free access to use gage,
[24:43] which just allows you to pull your residents. You actually have 1,100 resident 1,152 that are subscribed at [inaudible].
[24:49] so if you were to post a question, hey, we want to put a park here. Do you like it? They could go on there, and those 1152 would automatically get
[24:56] an e mail saying your city council has posted a question. Would you please go on and respond?
[25:01] it's a great way to engage with your residents. Think of it like survey monkey with two benefits that you've already got
[25:06] this panel built that we can verify that they're actually residents of your city.
[25:11] other thing I want to point out, and I will say, if you'll want to know how to use this,
[25:16] we do offer free training for it so that people can use it. It is a free service that you have or it's included with what you've already paid us for.
[25:23] this one, we normally don't put in presentations, but I wanted to bring it here because
[25:27] your resident sentiment isn't as great as you'd probably like it to be.
[25:33] I know we'd love it to always be flowers and fantastic information, and this one is a little harder to receive,
[25:38] but if I look at publicly available data, so this is not resident sentiment. This is the american community survey,
[25:44] this is federal law data. There's dozens of data sets we pull
[25:48] from that we can do this for every community in the country, and we do it for every community.
[25:53] you can see when I look at publicly available data out there, anna is doing pretty good.
[25:58] anna is above the national average in most categories. The only one that they're not above the national average is the natural environment.
[26:05] then there's a few that they are pretty much in par with the national average. Your residents might have high expectations.
[26:11] they might not have full information, or they might just be upset of something that's gone on in the past few years and you
[26:16] might be seeing that and the sentiment that's expressed by the resident survey. All that stuff on the left is also free.
[26:22] you can get those domain scores and see how you're doing and get a little bit of detail. The stuff on the right is extra,
[26:28] but the stuff on the left is free, and I'd encourage you to look at that just so you can see how you're doing publicly.
[26:32] last thing I want to point out, we appreciate you taking the national community survey with us.
[26:37] we do have other surveys that we are happy to administer for you that
[26:41] would get you resident input on your older adults or businesses,
[26:45] and really, this balancing act, especially when I hear someone get up here and talk about the parks,
[26:49] request was a lot different than I was expecting at first, and definitely have sympathy for you and respect your request,
[26:56] but if you were to want to talk to your residents and you had $2 million to spend towards a park and you
[27:01] wanted to get their impression of how they should spend it. You can actually put them in the driver's seat through a simulation so that they can be the budget person with
[27:08] all the information and give you their input of how they would actually allocate that money.
[27:12] we find that residents when they do this are actually very sympathetic and empathetic then towards the decisions you're making,
[27:17] because they realize it is a trade off, and there's always something that has to give if you're going to take something else.
[27:22] thanks so much for having me. I'm happy to answer any questions you have.
[27:27] >> yes, couple of questions for you. First of all, really appreciate the slide. Tons of data there.
[27:34] I'm a data guy, love it. How do I access the raw data to kind of slice and dice myself?
[27:42] >> we do provide the raw data if you want it. Normally, people don't ask for that. We have the tableau out there that gives you all the accounts of everything,
[27:49] but if you want the actual csvs of stuff, then what we'd have to do is just get that request,
[27:54] which I can take it, and then know who you want us to send it to. >> are you able to provide access to table? I've used that.
[28:00] >> sorry, am I what? >> access to tableau? >> we do. We provide you access to you do.
[28:06] >> I can just pull it from there myself if I need the csvs. >> you could. >> fantastic, appreciate that.
[28:11] now, one of the things that you mentioned was a big area for improvement for us was transportation, correct?
[28:17] >> yes. >> how have we what does it look like from the last time we compared?
[28:24] what was that trend? It was going down. >> it did go down relative to 2022.
[28:29] in 2022, you weren't below national benchmarks. Not only were you on par with national benchmarks,
[28:36] but you were at a higher level than you are now too because of a downward trend.
[28:41] >> I think that's a pretty clear. I know we didn't get a lot of people to do this survey.
[28:46] that's one thing I would like to do is increase that amount and look at different ways, but I think it was pretty clear was what
[28:51] our priorities need to be and a lot of that is that infrastructure.
[28:55] I would request on the rest of counsel that we focus on providing
[29:02] either ecos or bonds or some type of avenue to try to address the transportation because that's the number one pain point in town.
[29:09] I mean, our surveys reflect it. It's not good. That's that one.
[29:17] now, is there a way we could do a workshop with you where you're here?
[29:23] when we start really diving into the weeds, you can help us facilitate or at least prioritize the right things?
[29:33] >> yes, definitely. If you were just to do that virtually and you have access to our customer service person,
[29:40] and they can help you with that online, but they wouldn't be here in person helping you go through the list of everything.
[29:45] we do a next steps workshop, which we'd be happy to do. It does cost more money, though,
[29:49] in order to fly someone out here and help you go through everything. They would bring the survey,
[29:54] but you have access to it and go through everything. Then we would also provide ways of what we've
[29:59] seen other cities do in order to in order to help. >> what have you seen other cities do to increase the engagement?
[30:07] because I'm going to be pretty frank here. One of the main feedbacks that I got on the survey was way too long.
[30:13] it was too wordy. How do we take that feedback and make sure the next time we do this,
[30:20] it's a little bit more convenient. The questions are a little bit more precise.
[30:25] I think you were on the point with everything. I think it ultimately comes down to
[30:31] the average attention span how do we make sure that they can go
[30:36] through this very quickly and get the data we need without bogging them down?
[30:41] I know that's kind of a public question, but I would really appreciate if you look
[30:45] into something to mitigate the amount of time it takes. >> sure, I'm happy to talk about that more now,
[30:52] but I think a quick high level answer would be we can reduce the survey.
[30:59] actually, research shows that once someone sits down to take the survey,
[31:03] that's the hardest thing is to get someone to take a survey. If you go over two questions, two parts,
[31:08] then you're in a different group of people willing to take it, and so once you've got someone sitting down,
[31:13] starting it, they're likely going to finish it. After two questions, then you're not going to have anyone quit it.
[31:19] over two questions, and you're going to have people quit it. We just have to get less information if we go to a shorter survey.
[31:25] some people, some communities like to time their surveys, where they would give,
[31:31] like one page of the survey in january, one page in april and like do it a bit shorter.
[31:38] that is definitely something that's possible. There's two weaknesses to that.
[31:42] you're obviously targeting a different group of people. You're having if you're using the same household address,
[31:48] then you don't have to re pull it from the usps. You don't need to worry about the boundary file, but now you're going to sample 3,000 households every time.
[31:55] there's obviously a bigger expense. If you survey less people, then you're just going to get less responses with that. There's a trade off there.
[32:01] if you do that over time, you can if you did three in the year 2025, you could still say, hey,
[32:07] this is the 2025 results, but things could be a lot different in march than they are in november,
[32:13] so you're going to get a different sentiment coming out when you do that. That's not bad or good.
[32:17] it's just you got to be realized. >> some of the data may be skewed. No, that's a fair point.
[32:25] >> I think that's it. Thank you, appreciate it. Sara. >> how many people took the survey in 2022 compared to 2025?
[32:33] >> I do have that answer, it was 371.
[32:46] >> that's for 2022 or 2025. >> 2022.
[32:50] >> how many took? >> no. That's they took the paper survey. In 2022, we weren't offering the url.
[32:57] don't quote me on that. We might have done it for your city. I'm not sure if the url was going yet for anna.
[33:02] this year, we had 261, and we had 588 that did it off the url.
[33:07] you could combine those two, but we can't say that they're scientifically valid when we combine those results for the reasons I talked about.
[33:13] but those results with the combination are in the tableau. You can make the decision, hey,
[33:18] do I want to go with this one that I can't claim scientific validity? You can't claim it because the academics haven't
[33:23] figured out if that's really scientifically valid because it could be everyone that went to
[33:28] walmart at noon is the people who saw that and took the survey, and that's a different type of person that then goes to the h-e-b at 5:00 or whatever.
[33:36] >> thank you.
[33:42] >> I appreciate all the hard work. It was a long survey.
[33:46] I was one of those I almost gave up. I'll be honest. >> but did you?
[33:52] >> no. >> good job. No struggling. >> we don't quit. >> but I mean, it paid off.
[33:57] there was a lot of information and we got another 700 people, so that's good.
[34:03] it's like elections around here. The poco part, we can enter in surveys.
[34:11] I hope our staff uses that a lot so we can get feedback so we don't have to pay for
[34:17] another firm to come in to do another survey on a park or anything.
[34:25] then what caught my eye mainly is the mobility,
[34:30] natural environment, guard waste recycling, stuff like that. I mean, we do have a contract coming up pretty soon.
[34:37] quality of life has always been I've been on for seven years and councilman brian can state this.
[34:44] I mean, quality of life has always been on our mindset. It was bothersome that it's still low or hasn't approved.
[34:52] in downtown, we're finally making moves on that and I think that's a goal of everyone.
[35:00] the trails connectivity, I feel we can do a lot better on
[35:04] that and then the infrastructure,
[35:11] councilmen seeing the roads as much as we would like to do something.
[35:15] highway 5 and texto just kills us. I bet I'm willing to put my pay which not big paycheck
[35:23] on something to wager about if we had control over highway 5 and we could do something,
[35:31] that would be in a high percentile. We would be way above. It's horrible.
[35:39] you talked about natural environment 2-3 times.
[35:45] explain what natural environment? >> that's the environment of your community.
[35:51] that is natural stuff, wind, hail, sun, dryness, wetness, that type of stuff.
[35:58] >> were they rated us low on mother nature.
[36:03] >> yes. That's one way to look at it. >> I was thinking of natural environment as maybe,
[36:09] because I misunderstood it. I was thinking maybe because we're building more homes and we're
[36:14] getting rid of the trees and stuff, that's the way I took it. >> well, it is trees. It's the plant life and stuff in here, too.
[36:20] the building of homes would be more in community design, but obviously,
[36:24] every resident might have perceived it just like you and thought, oh, when they asked me natural environment,
[36:29] I think trees and building homes. Then they might have rated it like that. While the ratings of all communities that are growing as fast as anna is are
[36:38] typically lower than the ratings of communities that are the same as they were three years ago.
[36:44] the residents have the expectation is the same three years later if you don't have a bunch of new residents,
[36:50] or it's at least more similar than it is in a case like anna. >> I appreciate it. Thank you again.
[36:55] >> yes. Thank you. Thanks for completing the survey. >> thanks. I do appreciate this.
[37:02] may not like the results, but I do appreciate this. I'd like to encourage our community to write the counsel.
[37:12] is a big survey, but some of these are a hot button for you,
[37:18] anybody who's listening to my voice. Please write us. I questioned some of it because we got rid of
[37:26] the bicycle ordinances that kept bicycles from being used on most of the streets and we added golf carts.
[37:35] I see a lot of people doing both. There you go.
[37:43] I know that we've improved based on the feedback that we received from people.
[37:49] again, regardless of any personal emotional attachment to any of these things,
[37:56] if there is something specific that you're looking at this survey, going,
[38:01] I wish that council would do such and such, or listen to me about this particular item or page on the survey, please write us.
[38:09] let us know your thoughts, let us know your ideas. Those ideas create opportunities and dialogue and frankly make things happen.
[38:20] to your organization, thank you for doing this. >> thank you.
[38:26] >> one of the things that's just screaming at me right now and maybe, people in the crowd can maybe attest to this is,
[38:34] nobody really knows in the public what is a text road,
[38:38] what is a city road, what is a county road. Question for staff, can we create something for
[38:44] public consumption that clearly delineates which road is city,
[38:48] which road is county, which road is text? Would that be an opportunity for us?
[38:53] maybe put it on the website or for easy access for them? Perfect. Because that would really save a lot of the back and forth,
[39:02] especially online when, the biggest hurdle that I've
[39:07] come across in communicating to anyone is for them to understand that certain roads are not controlled.
[39:12] I think if we could just begin by educating and providing more context and providing some visuals,
[39:19] I think that would help drive home that case, especially on some of the transportation items.
[39:23] >> councilman, singh. I think some of that is,
[39:27] I don't want to choose to harsh a word,
[39:31] but I don't think they care. I think they've elected us and other people and they want to listen.
[39:38] I think part of it is, I know we hate having to say, well, that's a texto road or that's a railroad item or whatever.
[39:45] I think they want to know what are we doing about it as far as
[39:49] communication or what can they do about it as far as communicating with representatives?
[39:54] >> excellent point. That leads me to my next one. Is there also a way we can put an online project tracker?
[40:01] what I mean is all the roads that we have that our city owned,
[40:05] that we delineate in this map, that we have a status update,
[40:09] at least bi annually, this is what's going on the road, even if nothing changes,
[40:14] even if there's no new environmentals, nothing. Bi annually, we update it.
[40:19] I think that providing that level of information for people will take a little bit of
[40:24] the burden off us and help educate some of our residents as well.
[40:32] ultimately, people don't feel the change. We may come with the best intentions.
[40:39] I'm confident that we do, but somewhere in between our intentions and the delivery,
[40:44] the message is getting lost. I think that's an opportunity for all of us to take a step back and say,
[40:52] do we need to retailer our message? If what we did from the last survey to now,
[40:58] we initially thought was we were trying to do our best. What happened? Where did we fall short?
[41:04] because the next time we do this survey, if this goes down again, that's three in a row. That's not good.
[41:10] we want to make sure that we are very careful and methodical as we work through this.
[41:20] it's like in corporate. So like I work in corporate. What we sometimes think of in
[41:25] the executive c suites doesn't always trickle down to the front line staff.
[41:29] I think we need to also assess, is our vision, is our communication making it all the way down?
[41:35] just food for thought. Thank you.
[41:41] >> anybody else? I have a small beef,
[41:45] by the way with mother nature right now. Thank you very much. Thank you.
[41:50] I'm that's home with you. >> briefly. At the conclusion of the last survey,
[41:55] I presented the survey results to all of our boards and commissions. I think it'd be fantastic if
[42:00] the council liaisons to the boards and commissions would take these survey results and have a conversation at the upcoming board meetings
[42:07] about the things that may be most relevant to those boards and commissions. Obviously, maybe arts and culture isn't most relevant to planning and zoning,
[42:17] but to the boards that things are most relevant to, I think that would be fantastic.
[42:22] I think it would have a lot of value coming from the council liaison.
[42:27] >> thank you, kimberly. >> sorry, if I may add to that. Are you able to track who is actually accessing that data?
[42:36] >> that's a great question. >> if that's possible, because what I want to see is,
[42:41] are the people accessing the data? Are they the ones still on the other side, not understanding?
[42:47] is there some type of disconnect? I think that would really help us to see who's actually accessing the information and who's actually asking the questions. Thank you.
[42:54] >> thank you. >> that takes us item 4b,
[43:00] fire prevention week, 2025, chief isam?
[43:11] >> mayor, counsel. Good evening. Ray island fire chief. I also have with me tonight,
[43:17] one of our fire prevention captains, galen davis.
[43:21] just for the record, I'm very pleased with the results, but I may be a little skewed on that.
[43:28] I'll take an 88 and 92 any day. I got to get that 88 up to 92,
[43:32] but we can work on that. This item relates to a proclamation,
[43:38] which is a national fire protection association on
[43:44] an annual basis created years and years ago decades ago, fire prevention week.
[43:52] this is an important week for us in the fire service.
[43:59] we are a very pro prevention department.
[44:03] this year's theme is charge into fire safety lithium ion batteries in your home.
[44:10] there's been a trend across the nation of individuals using what are called
[44:17] unlisted burn or you might call them cheap chargers for their lithium batteries,
[44:24] and when they're overcharged, they can get very hot and cause fires.
[44:28] that's been a trend. We always like to focus in on those type of things.
[44:34] this is simply a proclamation for that and we'll be doing some psas on our facebook page,
[44:40] and we also partner with the school district on several initiatives throughout the year.
[44:46] this just heightens the awareness of that. >> I do have a proclamation to read. If you're ready?
[44:54] >> yes, sir. >> the city of anna texas proclamation for fire prevention week,
[44:59] october 5 to 11, 2025. Whereas, the city of anna is committed to ensuring the safety and
[45:04] security of all those living and visiting our city, and whereas fire remains serious public safety concern both locally and nationally,
[45:12] and the presence of lithium ion batteries in many household devices introduces unique fire risks.
[45:17] whereas most of the electronics use in homes daily, including smartphones, tablets, laptops,
[45:21] power tools, e bikes, e scooters, and toys are powered by lithium ion batteries, which if misused,
[45:27] damaged or improperly charged, can overheat, start a fire or explode.
[45:31] whereas the national fire protection association reports an increase in battery related fires,
[45:37] underscoring the need for public education on the safe use of lithium ion batteries,
[45:42] and whereas residents should follow three key calls to action, buy only listed products,
[45:48] charge batteries safely, and recycle them responsibly to prevent battery related fires.
[45:53] whereas lithium ion batteries store a large amount of energy in a small space and improper use of such as overcharging,
[46:00] using off brand charges without safety certification, or exposing the batteries to damage can result in fire or explosion.
[46:07] whereas the proper disposal of recycling of lithium ion batteries helps
[46:11] prevent environmental hazards and reduce fire risk in the home and community. Whereas the city anna of first responders are dedicated
[46:18] to reducing the occurrence of fires through prevention, safety, education, and community outreach.
[46:23] whereas a 2025 fire for week theme charge into fire safety.
[46:28] lithium ion batteries in your home serves to remind us the importance of using,
[46:33] charging and recycling lithium ion batteries safely to reduce the risk of fires in homes and communities.
[46:39] therefore, I mayor pete cain, city of anna do hereby proclaim october 5 through the 11th,
[46:44] 2025 as fire prevention week throughout the city. I urge all the people of the city of anna to practice fire safety and to
[46:51] support the public safety activities and efforts of the anna fire department.
[46:55] what is the set to my hand, this day of september 23, 2025, signed by me.
[47:01] >> thank you very much for your support of the fire department. We really appreciate it.
[47:07] >> we love you guys, and thank you for everything you are doing. I know we've got some storms rolling in.
[47:12] thanks for keeping us safe, guys. God bless you and god bless us, please.
[47:46] >> thank you. Appreciate
[48:03] him. [applause]
[48:07] >> thank you. [applause] >> that takes us to agenda item 5a, work session. A is discussion on the anna 96 development.
[48:13] council member herndon, please.
[48:20] >> as the liaison for the planning and zoning, I wanted to update you guys on their comments for this property.
[48:27] one of the main key points, they wanted to see more than just the 'standard development.'
[48:34] they would like to see larger homes and larger lots. You see the gas utility easement running through there,
[48:42] dividing the smaller lots from the larger ones? That's supposed to be used as green space.
[48:48] they don't necessarily want to see that as green space.
[48:53] it's inadequate for residents. You can't build anything on it. They also suggested that the retention pond up in
[49:00] the top corner be used as a fishing area for those homeowners,
[49:04] and the lack of amenities stood out to them as well.
[49:08] there's no parks, no pool plan. They also asked what the families here would have to
[49:15] do and suggested putting amenities in first to help attract homeowners if this developer does try and want amenities on it.
[49:26] >> thank you. That'll take us to agenda item 6, consent items.
[49:31] these items consist of non controversial or housekeeping items required by law. Items may be considered individually by any council member making
[49:38] such requests prior to a motion and vote on the consent items. Council, is there anything anyone would like to pull?
[49:44] >> not poll, but if I'm asking the wrong question, let me know.
[49:48] is there a way to approve all consent items if no one has an issue with them in one shot?
[49:53] >> yeah. >> perfect. Fantastic. >> no one polling. I'll make a motion to approve item 6a through, aye.
[50:02] >> second. >> we have a motion and a second.
[50:07] if you would, please, cast your votes.
[50:16] item passes unanimously. Takes item 7, items for individual consideration and public hearings.
[50:22] at the time and place of any public hearing held during this meeting, all persons who desire will have an opportunity to be heard in
[50:27] opposition to or in favor of the ordinance application or other proposed item.
[50:32] 7a is considered discuss and act on a resolution entering into a pre-annexation development agreement regarding 15.2
[50:39] acres plus or minus at the southeast corner of west foster crossing road and south powell parkway.
[50:46] planning manager, lauren macke. >> good evening, council. In order to respect your time,
[50:52] I have put together all four of these items together since it is regarding the sign property.
[50:57] the first item, 7a is the pre annexation development agreement with foursquare healthcare ltd. Then items 7b,
[51:05] c and d are with the current property owner for the municipal services agreement,
[51:11] the annexation and zoning. The applicants are requesting to annex 14.1 acres and zone
[51:19] 15.2 acres at the southwest corner of west foster crossing road in south powell parkway.
[51:25] this is for a medical office complex that is anchored by an assisted living facility.
[51:31] we have not received any responses to the mailers that we sent out.
[51:36] this property is currently surrounded by all vacant properties,
[51:41] a portion of which is in the etj, a portion is in the city limits.
[51:46] the comprehensive plan identifies all of these areas as employment mix,
[51:51] and it is closest to the holt property,
[51:55] which will be opening up soon. This is their concept plan.
[52:01] on the corner closest to highland is the assisted living facility,
[52:06] and they will also have several office buildings. Now, the zoning is not restricting this concept plan specifically for the out parcels.
[52:17] it is only tied to the assisted living facility, and for the subdividing of the property.
[52:25] as I said, this property is identified as employment mix on our comprehensive plan,
[52:32] which this clearly meets. For the first item 7a,
[52:38] it's recommended for approval as submitted and the applicant has a few slides.
[52:51] >> good evening. My name is ashley johnson, 5050 capitol avenue, dallas, texas 75206.
[53:00] just here to speak a little bit for the developer. I'm the civil engineer on the project with kimley-horn.
[53:07] I'll go the next slide. Just want to reiterate a little bit about the nursing home property.
[53:15] it's actually a skilled nursing development, which skilled nursing is a little bit of a term that most folks may not know,
[53:23] but it's really the in between for patients who are exiting the hospital and may not be able to go home yet.
[53:31] it's really a rehabilitation center for illnesses, injuries, surgeries, and whatnot there.
[53:39] it's pretty low traffic, which is good. The whole development is trying to bring in more medical uses.
[53:48] the property of the north that will be subdivided for all kinds of
[53:53] other medical uses is a good asset for the skilled nursing specifically development as well.
[53:59] I just wanted to provide some photos of an existing building that the developer has done in princeton.
[54:07] the skilled nursing facility is a pretty low profile building,
[54:12] one story with masonry finishes, really trying to fit into the surrounding areas.
[54:19] I'll provide a couple of photos as well. I'll provide some little amenity areas for the current patients.
[54:29] then just an overall look at their princeton development. Again, low profile building to try to fit into the surrounding neighborhoods,
[54:38] and I'm available for any questions. >> first of all, thank you.
[54:43] very good presentation. Love the visuals. Love the thought that you guys put in to help blend into some of the local community.
[54:52] I guess you guys have been watching some of our council videos, good job on that.
[54:57] what I want to explain to people is we laid out a vision
[55:02] earlier this year to bring a hospital to anna and to really create some type of medical park city.
[55:08] this brings us closer to that. This is a really good use of space.
[55:13] councilman toten and I, we live right next to it.
[55:17] other uses in the past have been apartment, apartments, and what about this type of apartment?
[55:22] it's all we've ever really gotten in this area. This allows us to move forward with something unique. I really love this.
[55:29] but let me ask you this. This may not be a question for you, but whoever, are the roads around it going to get upgraded as well?
[55:37] >> yes. Highland road will be upgraded with the skilled nursing specifically.
[55:42] then foster crossing is on the thoroughfare plan and will be
[55:47] upgraded potentially with the future lots and potentially with the city too.
[55:53] but the half of highland road on our property will be expanded.
[55:57] >> perfect. That's what I wanted to talk about is the highland road. Then where is your entrance exit going to be?
[56:04] I didn't catch that. I apologize. >> the back button. That obvious?
[56:13] >> have we thought about maybe do we need a decel lane into something this small?
[56:18] I'm not sure, but just something to consider.
[56:22] >> south powell parkway is txdot and sometimes they require decel lanes at the driveway entrances.
[56:29] we have one access point off there. There's another access point off highland road,
[56:34] and then in the future, for the northern office buildings,
[56:40] there will be a couple points of access from there as well. Was your question specific to the highland road decel lane?
[56:47] >> yeah. Highland road, not so much decel. Decel is going to be probably on five or you're not even touching collin county routes.
[56:53] it's mostly just going to be on five. Then my question for highland, which you answered, that's going to be upgraded as well.
[56:58] that's going to provide a lot of relief for those residents that go in and out of that corner. >> yeah. Depending on, I guess,
[57:04] the future lot and the uses that are in there may warrant a decel lane with the traffic,
[57:09] but for the skilled nursing lot, it's pretty low traffic.
[57:13] I think with the improvements based on the thoroughfare plan, I think it should be sufficient without a decel lane into that driveway.
[57:21] >> perfect. I also want to just touch on, that's one of the entrances coming in from melissa into anna.
[57:29] it helps accelerate a little bit of that development on that entrance.
[57:34] it's better than having any apartment or any other type of multifamily development on there.
[57:39] that's something that, I think council is trying to move from. But this also allows us for
[57:46] high school and the collin college that's going to come here that we're working on. It's going to allow those children and those kids to have
[57:53] career pipelines or training or some other type of internship.
[57:57] hopefully, if that's something that you guys would consider, please have a conversation with the school.
[58:02] if there is anything that the developers or the owners of this facility can work on with the isd would be much appreciated.
[58:08] but otherwise, a great job, yes. >> awesome. >> two questions for staff. You're in the clear.
[58:16] [laughter] on 7a, section 3a for the annexation deadlines and service obligations,
[58:23] owner must submit an annexation petition within 60 days,
[58:27] and must complete a 90 owner can terminate after 30 if the city fails. What will happen if something happens?
[58:37] it's neither, so you control or their control. How would that be handled?
[58:42] >> in this case, the annexation is on your agenda tonight,
[58:47] so we don't have to worry about it. It is applicable in other cases.
[58:51] this is a pretty standard pre-annexation development agreement that we use for a lot of developments.
[58:57] but in this case, the annexation is on your agenda.
[59:02] it's not the next item, but the item after. >> next question. Are these uses aligned with long term city planning?
[59:10] is there any conflicts with surrounding zoning already there?
[59:15] >> let me go back to the side. Currently, the surrounding properties to the north,
[59:22] you have single family residential large lot and then the properties that are on the west,
[59:29] south, and east actually are all still etj.
[59:34] >> future zoning changes, how will this affect those?
[59:38] >> how would it affect those? The proposed zoning that's in this pre-annexation development agreement as well as
[59:44] item 7d is in line with the comprehensive plan.
[59:51] we don't have control over land uses in the etj. Unfortunately, any of those properties
[59:58] if they choose not to submit an annexation petition, we don't have control unless they enter into an agreement with the city.
[1:00:05] then with the property to the north, that one,
[1:00:09] the zoning would come before you to decide whether or not what that development is wanting to do lines up.
[1:00:16] this property doesn't have quite as much of an impact on those adjacent properties from developing right now.
[1:00:23] >> thank you. Appreciate.
[1:00:27] >> first question for staff or maybe just a statement.
[1:00:31] this is like half a highland. I would be very interested in the city looking at ways of,
[1:00:41] if they're going to improve their part. Let's do it all at once.
[1:00:45] then even foster crossing, that whole little,
[1:00:51] it's like a mile long, maybe. Councilman singh said,
[1:00:55] I do live there, and that road does need some attention. A lot of people are using it.
[1:01:00] then economic development. Hopefully we can spark something that whenever you are building the skilled nursing home,
[1:01:12] and also the medical offices next to it that are along foster crossing fires up,
[1:01:17] we just do it all at one time. That's the goal. This one might be for her?
[1:01:25] what is txdot told you guys on highway 5, right there, your section?
[1:01:31] I know what it looks like now. What have they told you?
[1:01:35] >> about needed improvements at the timing on theirs? >> we were told they're stopping.
[1:01:40] are they stopping at innaloo? What is it going to be like right there?
[1:01:46] >> we have not had conversations specifically with txdot but
[1:01:50] my understanding is they at least have plans to extend this all the way up.
[1:01:55] >> yeah, for five years, but I'm talking about you are going to be open way before that.
[1:02:00] personal experience, four years ago, my mother needed this.
[1:02:05] I had to search. Most of the time, you find nursing homes that have one wing is skilled nursing.
[1:02:14] it would have been awesome have to find the place. I searched everywhere because you never want to just leave your mom anywhere.
[1:02:20] it took days, and just the wing of it.
[1:02:25] but this is needed and it's not just for seniors.
[1:02:30] it's for anyone, any age level and stuff like that. Like councilman singh said,
[1:02:36] it opens up the opportunity for our cte program at our high school for internships.
[1:02:42] but yeah, this is needed because just not even two miles of, what's that say?
[1:02:49] bird stone throw? Yeah, bird fly. There's are over senior 55 living and stuff like that.
[1:02:55] >> got you. >> this is needed. I really appreciate the way it looks,
[1:03:01] the willingness to improve the roads. I really hope that it all develops at the same time. Thank you.
[1:03:10] >> thank you. >> I agree with those sentiments.
[1:03:15] you are aware the right across the street to your east is fully industrial.
[1:03:23] >> bulldozers and who knows what else may come? We don't know yet. But it is industrial.
[1:03:29] we also have a train that likes to jump the track. Hopefully they've got that fixed.
[1:03:35] but just want to be aware that's what everyone will be seeing to your east.
[1:03:42] >> don't try to scare them away. We need this. >> I'm not trying to scare them away. I just want to make sure they're bringing a project to us,
[1:03:50] I want to make sure they know what they've got. On the play.
[1:03:54] I just want to confirm that those circles that's a detention ponds?
[1:03:59] >> correct. >> your portion of foster crossing will be developed as part of this?
[1:04:07] >> as part of the future retail, not as part of the skilled nursing specifically.
[1:04:13] >> got you. We've had two councilmen refer to it.
[1:04:19] does your organization do internships with high school and college students?
[1:04:27] >> for square health, you're asking? I personally don't know.
[1:04:33] >> I like how you do to that. You're coming out with.
[1:04:39] >> good evening. Shane lewis, 4515, harry's lane, dallas 75229.
[1:04:48] >> welcome, j. Obviously, there's a lot of interest in this. I'll give you the question.
[1:04:54] >> fire away. >> does your organization do internships
[1:04:58] and that thing with high school and college students? >> councilman, we typically end up working with
[1:05:06] almost junior college and trade school levels that are in nurse tech
[1:05:11] and in nursing personnel.. Our typical building employs about roughly 100 people,
[1:05:20] and that goes all the way from physicians to physician assistants to pts,
[1:05:26] physical therapist, occupational therapist, speech therapist, registered personnel nurses,
[1:05:32] med techs, dietary housekeeping and laundry, the whole thing.
[1:05:38] in several communities that we operate with, we work closely with the junior college programs and if
[1:05:44] the school has the local high school has a vocational program for nursing or nurse tech.
[1:05:49] we will enter into an agreement with them where we effectively act as an intern and in precept site.
[1:05:57] >> got you. We have several we call the cotes.
[1:06:01] that's our students. I call cotes here. We have several that are in medical programs here at collin college.
[1:06:11] some of them are doing enrolled during high school,
[1:06:15] pretty smart bunch of young people. I'd love to see them be able to have an opportunity in a facility.
[1:06:22] the fact that they're bringing 100 plus jobs is also encouraging.
[1:06:26] we on a regular basis receive requests in our community for services like this,
[1:06:35] so thank you have a good opportunity here. >> it's interesting and just elaborate.
[1:06:41] it's significantly significant under service, as councilman toten already pointed out with his search.
[1:06:49] I grew up in a small town, east texas, athens, texas, if anybody knows where athens is.
[1:06:55] athens, we have 11 or 12,000 people in town,
[1:07:00] and that community is served by four skilled nursing facilities.
[1:07:08] I've been doing this for three decades and really longer than that
[1:07:13] and we try to stay out of what we call the big metro markets,
[1:07:18] how the metro keeps catching up with us somehow. I'm not sure. When we built our building in princeton,
[1:07:22] we thought we were in the country, and by the time we got it built, we weren't in the country anymore.
[1:07:26] but because we do tend to operate in standalone markets,
[1:07:33] market needs a skilled nursing facility for roughly every six or 7,000 residents.
[1:07:42] by the time you get the 10, you're really really stretching. Again, I think about my little town of athens,
[1:07:47] I grew up in and those are flourishing buildings I've been here a long time. It's not like they're not all full and operating.
[1:07:55] this is a great opportunity to extend north just from our princeton location.
[1:08:02] we have two buildings in farmersville, and we have a building in princeton.
[1:08:07] this is just the next, right up the road. I'm local. We are the developer.
[1:08:11] we are the user of the land as well. As I was telling the p&z committee, the thing that will give you guys some comfort about what we're doing there,
[1:08:18] we are not developers who are building something and flipping out to some guys and leaving,
[1:08:23] we are the owner user of the site. It's different like renting a home and owning a home.
[1:08:28] we are super super conscientious about what
[1:08:33] happens and then I don't want to train to fall off the tracks and come across the road have you.
[1:08:37] but we're very familiar with this. What we really tend to blend in is a residential back to our north and to our west here.
[1:08:47] we try to get close to the houses. This is a very localized business.
[1:08:51] people want to be within a mile or two or three because they want to come by, they see their loved one while they're there, while they're recovering.
[1:08:58] this works very well with us despite what's going on to the east of us.
[1:09:02] >> sure. >> thank you. I don't know if the camera shows up,
[1:09:07] but I can see your enthusiasm. This is part of the gateway to anna,
[1:09:12] so I'm glad to be able to show that we care about every level of life here.
[1:09:18] thanks for doing that. That's all I got. >> we're very excited about the project.
[1:09:23] >> hey, excellent points, everyone. If I may just add, it's the entrance of our city.
[1:09:31] I have a humble request. Keep in mind a level of esthetic beauty when you're building this structure.
[1:09:40] it really does blend into the area. It has a high level of stone.
[1:09:46] it has the peaked roofs. Just keep that in mind,
[1:09:51] what you're showing us, if this is the level that you're going to bring to us, fantastic.
[1:09:55] >> this is virtual of the building. In fact, our engineer with our general contractor is just right behind me.
[1:10:01] his firm and the group he works for has built all of our buildings for over the last two decades.
[1:10:09] they built this building. They built another one almost just like it in farmersville,
[1:10:13] very similar for us. Because most of these buildings just
[1:10:18] with the business model and the reeds and the private equity. Most of these buildings, the real estate is not owned by the guys that operate inside.
[1:10:25] we're fairly unique and that we own the building, we are the license operator and we're the license management company and just three guys.
[1:10:33] it's by my two partners and we don't have outside investors and this is what we do.
[1:10:39] this is our business. Because of that, we tend to put quite a bit more a punch into the building.
[1:10:51] the masonry, if you walk into the buildings, I know several of the ps z members went and saw,
[1:10:56] I think a few of the ps z members went and saw the building. When you walk in, they're very nice. They're really nice buildings.
[1:11:05] this building will end up, all in $20 million. Perfect.
[1:11:11] >> when did you all open in princeton, if you don't mind me asking? >> well, I'll tell you when we opened in princeton,
[1:11:18] I have quite vivid memories of it. It was right in the middle of covid.
[1:11:23] [laughter] here's another $20 million building
[1:11:28] or so I opened right in the middle of a building and when you couldn't bring anybody into the building.
[1:11:32] it was quite interesting. Yeah. >> let me ask you this. When are you breaking ground?
[1:11:37] what is your timeline to break ground? >> as soon as we can get out here tonight,
[1:11:42] rick is going to call his boss and say, let's go. We're just waiting for tonight to be honest with you and we're moving.
[1:11:48] >> give it time line from going in. >> in fact, we actually just be very specific to answer your question.
[1:11:52] our land contract has been contingent upon the a section,
[1:11:57] the zoning and other qualification approvals we need to get tonight.
[1:12:01] this is the sentinel event of that, so we will close the land in I think 36 hours now,
[1:12:07] take the land down and we immediately go into build it as fast as we can build it.
[1:12:14] >> do we have something in the pada? I love it. You guys are on it.
[1:12:19] >> yes. On page seven of the development agreement is the timelines.
[1:12:24] that includes the zoning, the planting. >> he already won me. [laughter]
[1:12:29] >> then on page 20 of the development agreement is the development standards,
[1:12:33] which includes the requirement for meson. For if some reason, they do not develop the out parcels,
[1:12:39] those will have to maintain those standards. >> very impressed. Fantastic work.
[1:12:44] >> just one thing on that, and sometimes like they don't answer the question hadn't been asked,
[1:12:49] but just because we are the owner operator user of that, you met dane, sure.
[1:12:55] I am very consistently concerned about what goes on the rest of that.
[1:13:03] >> I love it. You got keys [inaudible]. >> they're just like to be your house. Those are my neighbors and it's just like what do
[1:13:09] you want built next to your house and what do I want built next to my building. >> definitely. One thing I want people to understand,
[1:13:16] this is one component in a larger pipeline that we've created for seniors.
[1:13:21] one of the things that a lot of the people on council and my understanding is some of
[1:13:25] the commitments we made was to provide a service pipeline for some of our seniors.
[1:13:30] some of the things we've talked about a is the uber transport system. This adds on to that providing services for some of our seniors as well.
[1:13:37] also, one of the conversations our wonderful mayor has led us in is the senior center.
[1:13:42] I want people to understand that we're thinking about a full holistic approach to providing services for our seniors as well.
[1:13:48] this is one thing that's been really requested. Then do you have any specifics and I'm sorry if I missed this.
[1:13:54] what type of services? I think you said x ray, some other type.
[1:13:58] what type of medical services are going to come in? >> well, you mean inside our facility?
[1:14:04] >> yes. >> we are operating primarily as a rehab site.
[1:14:09] most of our patients that come in, they're coming for the most part,
[1:14:13] directly from an acute care setting. In fact, lot of times were referred to as post acute medicine or
[1:14:19] post acute care because that's where we get most of folks.
[1:14:24] they are typically coming in needing some level of very high level therapy.
[1:14:29] or some level of wound management because maybe they're coming out,
[1:14:34] maybe they had a major joint repair, which comes with major iv work.
[1:14:39] they're coming in with very high end iv antibiotics and medications.
[1:14:44] we are attempting to basically finish the job at the hospital started.
[1:14:50] you know the deal, you go in the hospital, you're there two or three days. It doesn't matter whether you get a new heart or a new shoulder or or a few stitches.
[1:14:57] it's two or three days. These individuals they can't come out after two or three days and go home.
[1:15:08] without being significantly stabilized more than they have been. That's what we do.
[1:15:14] our job is to stabilize those individuals, get them up and moving again of the at new joints,
[1:15:20] get surgical wounds healed up,
[1:15:24] get iv antibiotics done. That's really the bulk of what we're doing.
[1:15:31] all of these buildings also have a component of long term care. We talk about every 10 people that walk through our door,
[1:15:39] we think we can get about eight out of 10 back home back to their prior setting.
[1:15:44] that's what we like to assure. But that two out of 10 that can't builds up.
[1:15:50] in our buildings, you talked about one wing of skilled nurse, ours just flipped.
[1:15:57] we have the whole building is actually set up as skilled,
[1:16:01] but we will temporary take a wing or so of that building and we tend to do some long term care as well.
[1:16:08] we have to be careful how much of that we do because we've got such a churn with the guys that are coming out of the hospital.
[1:16:15] if they need x-ray, we bring in services for x-rays.
[1:16:19] we do a lot of x-rays actually. We do a lot of x-ray and a lot of lab work.
[1:16:24] but the way these buildings are licensed in texas, you cannot have those actually inside the building,
[1:16:30] so we use specialized services that they are mobily bringing those services to us,
[1:16:37] just like they do pharmacy.we've got giant med rooms in these buildings,
[1:16:41] but we don't actually operate a pharmacy. We're bringing in pharmacy, we're bringing x-ray,
[1:16:47] and we're bringing in lab and they're coming in multiple times every day for the type
[1:16:52] of needs that we're having with this top level of patient resident.
[1:16:57] >> perfect. Let this
[1:17:03] be a lesson to other developers out there when you're looking at multifamily, something like this helps us create something in
[1:17:09] the spirit of south lake west lake, a high end product. This is a great use for some of those zonings.
[1:17:16] it also gives us leverage, once again, as I mentioned before for the hospital.
[1:17:20] it's key. But other than that, guys, I'm so impressed.
[1:17:25] you guys are absolutely fantastic. >> but we always do partner with our closest hospital because they also need an outlet.
[1:17:33] at the end of the day, they're trying to sort of open up beds.
[1:17:38] the very first thing we will do then is begin communicating with our hospital partners,
[1:17:43] particularly the ones to the south of us here and let them know that there's
[1:17:47] now within a year or so they're going to have an outlet for their discharges that are coming up to this area.
[1:17:54] >> I love it. I'm very impressed with you guys. I hope the rest of council is as well. Great job.
[1:17:59] >> thanks. >> mayor, I'll make a motion if you're ready.
[1:18:03] >> I'll second. >> seven a. We have a motion in a second,
[1:18:13] if you would, please, cast your votes?
[1:18:21] that passes unanimously. Not a shock. Taxes item 7b.
[1:18:27] consider, discuss entering in a municipal services agreement regarding 14.1 plus or
[1:18:32] minus acres at the southeast corner of west foster crossing road and south powell parkway. Ms. Mickey.
[1:18:38] >> per state law, the city is required to enter into a services agreement prior to annexation.
[1:18:43] this municipal services agreement is recommended for approval as submitted.
[1:18:47] >> mayor, I'll make a motion that we approve item 7b. >> I'll second.
[1:18:51] >> before we do that. I don't mind the motion.
[1:18:55] we don't have sewer on that part of that little stretch of five.
[1:19:01] what is the plan there? Are you using lift stations or what? >> I will defer to public works director joseph cotton.
[1:19:09] unless kimley-horn wants to answer. But [inaudible] is close by. [laughter]
[1:19:16] >> it's like they're racing to get up there to answer the question. >> with this project, we'll have to extend the sewer
[1:19:22] be lift station/gravity force main also.
[1:19:26] >> joseph is there sewage right there at phase four of peon grove.
[1:19:36] >> yes, sir. But the grade difference between there and
[1:19:41] their southern buildings will require that they're going to have to lift it to a certain extent to get it there.
[1:19:48] that's why she's had had a combination of gravity force main,
[1:19:53] and just various other improvements. >> they're going to have to have a lift station?
[1:19:58] >> that's what we're looking at right now is just require gravity.
[1:20:05] >> the asthetics of it is going to be a nice.
[1:20:09] we'll work with them on I've seen something aesthetic, please.
[1:20:13] we're not going to have a chaining fence around it. We're going to have something else. We'll work on them.
[1:20:17] >> we'll work with them on making it aesthetically pleasing. We haven't quite gotten to that detail yet,
[1:20:22] but we'll make sure that we're making it something that's going to fit in with the entirety of the development.
[1:20:28] thank you. Circumstance. >> [inaudible] we have a motion in a second.
[1:20:33] is there any more discussion? If not, please cast your votes.
[1:20:45] out of passage unanimously, takes us 7c.
[1:20:50] conduct a public hearing to consider discuss and act on an ordinance regarding a request to
[1:20:54] annex 1441 plus or minus acres at the southeast corner of west foster crossing road in south powell parkway.
[1:21:01] I'm going to open this public hearing at 7:29.
[1:21:05] >> this item was recommended for approval. >> thank you. I don't have any cards on this, nothing over there.
[1:21:14] anyone wish to speak on this last call. Closing the public hearing at 7:29 p.m.
[1:21:20] I will entertain discussion or a motion. >> I'll make a motion that we approve item 7c.
[1:21:26] >> I second. >> I think she faster.
[1:21:32] >> we have a motion in a second. Yes. If you would,
[1:21:37] please cast your votes.
[1:21:44] passed unanimously. Item d. Conduct a public hearing.
[1:21:49] consider, discuss and act on ordinance regarding request to zone 15.2 plus or minus acres at the southeast corner of westboster crossing road and south powell parkway.
[1:21:58] I'm going to open this public hearing at 7:30 p.m. >> ms. Mickey.
[1:22:04] >> again, this is the same property. And I did want to point out that they are proposing to
[1:22:08] restrict the uses within the c one district, so that it does comply with that medical office feel.
[1:22:16] we did not want to put it specific uses just in case
[1:22:20] there's something like a scrub retail store.
[1:22:25] we wanted to leave it still flexible enough that the appropriate uses could come in.
[1:22:30] this item is recommended for approval. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval as submitted.
[1:22:36] >> I have no cards on this, either. Anyone wishing to speak on this last call.
[1:22:41] I'm going to close this public hearing at 7:31 p.m. Council, any discussion or motions?
[1:22:46] >> is bait shop allowed? >> it is on the prohibited uses list.
[1:22:53] >> good. I'll make a motion that we approve it 7d. >> I second.
[1:22:58] >> lightning fast. >> hey, by a second do that.
[1:23:02] if you would, please cast your votes.
[1:23:12] item passes unanimously takes us to 7e, conduct a public hearing to consider,
[1:23:16] discuss and act on an ordinance regarding request for specific use permit for an auto repair light on rosemond crossing,
[1:23:23] southeast corner, block a, lot 2, miss mecke. >> this item is for a specific use permit for auto repair light.
[1:23:29] a specific use permit is used to allow
[1:23:34] the city council to really analyze to make sure that a use is appropriate.
[1:23:39] it can be appropriate in all locations, but maybe it's not.
[1:23:44] we would not want this use adjacent to a residential property.
[1:23:48] this is part of the larger kroger development. It will face 75.
[1:23:55] this is their proposed concept plan. This property was zoned regional commercial in 2024.
[1:24:05] it's one of 10 parcels. The future land use plan identifies it as regional activity center.
[1:24:12] with the auto repair light, it requires that all activities take place within
[1:24:18] the enclosed space and that it is greater than 150 feet from residential uses,
[1:24:23] which in this case, it is. We received zero responses in favor or in opposition.
[1:24:30] the planning and zoning commission recommended approval 5-0 with the condition that the site plan develop in accordance with the site plan attached,
[1:24:37] and the applicant has slides. >> I'm going to ahead and open up the public hearing at 7:32 p.m. No cards.
[1:24:46] anyone wishing to speak on this? Last call.
[1:24:51] closing the public hearing at 7:33 p.m. Council,
[1:24:56] any discussion or questions? >> yes. I have a couple.
[1:25:00] keep in mind this is the entrance of antlata. We don't want to have a situation where we've recreated white street inadvertently.
[1:25:10] I want to be very clear on that. Did you maybe look at how many shops we have in antlata already?
[1:25:18] >> how many auto repairs? >> yes. >> we do have quite a few.
[1:25:22] however, this is off of rosemont, which does not have any currently.
[1:25:27] >> is there not one off of white street close to the quick trip,
[1:25:33] I think there's a body collision center or something there? >> you're talking about caliber collision.
[1:25:38] >> caliber? >> yes. That's over off on white street in future stan ridge boulevard.
[1:25:43] >> we still have something there. I don't want to say no,
[1:25:47] but I just don't see the value in it, that is prime corner, that is the entrance of our city,
[1:25:52] and here we are giving it up for an auto shop when we've got more than enough all across town.
[1:25:58] now, unless it's a specialized one or a specific one, I might be more interested,
[1:26:03] but unless the council feels otherwise, this does not meet the threshold of what we need in that entrance of antlata.
[1:26:12] that's just my $0.02. I would love to hear anyone else's. >> councilman saying we also have one
[1:26:18] approved in front of the falls next to the texas bank.
[1:26:23] >> good point on that. I'm thinking about it in technical terms.
[1:26:30] when we look at each square foot, especially at certain lots and corners.
[1:26:34] we only have a limited number of corners in hard corners and prime corners in the city.
[1:26:40] each square foot, we have to think through that whatever we're putting there has to be the best and maximum amount
[1:26:46] of use that we're going to get out of there. I just don't think that this meets that threshold, respectfully.
[1:26:51] maybe a great product. Fortunately, I think just the timing is wrong on my end.
[1:26:55] council may feel different, and I'll leave it up to them. >> before you make your full decision,
[1:27:02] can we hear from the developer and what type? I think I think I know what type it is just by looking at the thing,
[1:27:09] but that just answered my question.
[1:27:15] as much as I agree. 30,000. To me, rosemond match away.
[1:27:24] I got to say right. Is insurance you for coming from the north?
[1:27:28] rosemond I kroger is going there, groundbreaking friday, if anybody want to attend.
[1:27:35] if you drive around dfw, you see kroger, you see heb,
[1:27:42] you see costco and guess what's right next to him,
[1:27:46] abelin, jiffy lube, five minute I forget what that one's called.
[1:27:51] this is a needed service and some as much
[1:27:55] because there's that many cars and to in antlata.
[1:28:00] it's off the highway a little bit, so it's not there's going to be things in front of it.
[1:28:06] but to me, I would I would welcome this because it's going to be it's a needed service.
[1:28:13] it's someone that I can go get my old change from my work truck.
[1:28:18] >> is there a service that they're providing or that they're looking to provide that we don't maybe have?
[1:28:25] or is it a service that we already have that they're looking to replicate?
[1:28:31] >> I just want to ask what exactly what services would be performed here.
[1:28:37] is it strain up oil changes? Is it break work? Is it spark plugs?
[1:28:44] >> thank you. Richard goes,
[1:28:48] valine 100 valvoline wave in lexington, kentucky.
[1:28:53] most of our services, we're quick loop service.
[1:28:58] we stay in your car type. It's about 15 minute service.
[1:29:03] we do any fluid replacements. Not just oils, we'll do radiator flushes, transmission flush.
[1:29:11] we can check breaks. We don't replace breaks.
[1:29:15] if breaks are needed, then we'll refer them to a brakes plus or dealership or anything like that.
[1:29:23] we we primarily do preventative maintenance on vehicles.
[1:29:28] there's no vehicles that stay overnight. >> is there any specialized service that you're
[1:29:36] providing that is not already being provided in eta? >> I would say as far as preventative maintenance parts.
[1:29:48] >> is that not something I can do at ricky's or jiffy lube or like,
[1:29:54] I'm just trying to understand, are we being provided a service here with this product that we already do not have,
[1:30:00] or is it just adding on to services that we already provide? >> I would say we're we're we're similar to jiffy loop and take five,
[1:30:09] there probably our two biggest competitors nationwide.
[1:30:15] but as far as, we do set ourselves apart
[1:30:21] from the mom pops kind of places like that because the other places like we just mentioned,
[1:30:27] they have a similar model that we do. We before we go into a piece of property or a site, like,
[1:30:35] we do a lot of diligence for me to stand in front of you tonight.
[1:30:41] we're probably six, eight months to a year into
[1:30:46] investing into this the site into the community.
[1:30:51] >> I totally understand that. Do you have any average household numbers or income numbers for your average customer?
[1:30:59] >> I want to say I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head,
[1:31:03] but we do look at that. We do look at all the demographics.
[1:31:08] >> do you have a general ballpark number, what your average income is for your [inaudible] >> yeah. Our target is 100 k plus.
[1:31:15] >> let me ask you this. If your target is 100 k plus, how many locations do you have in south lake or west lake?
[1:31:21] >> I can't tell you off the top of my head. I know around the dfw area,
[1:31:26] and we do have some in south lake, we've probably got about 30 to 40 locations in the dfw area.
[1:31:36] >> what I'm essentially getting to is, if we're working to create especially entrances and
[1:31:44] an overall city that's in the spirit of a high end town, high end city.
[1:31:49] once again, I may be on my own island, which is fine with this. I just do not see the value it's providing services that are already provided.
[1:31:58] it's not bringing anything new. It's at one of the main entrances as we come into the city.
[1:32:04] I understand other krogers and whatnot will have and I think that's a very valid point.
[1:32:09] but we're not looking to create what everyone else has. We're looking to create something specific for antlata, something unique.
[1:32:17] I really respect that you came out here. I truly appreciate you.
[1:32:21] for me, personally, it just does not meet the threshold. My colleagues here may feel different.
[1:32:27] I respect that. Just for me, I can't get there, so I appreciate you. >> I'm just looking at it along your lines there,
[1:32:34] but I also look at it that, you know, I I change my oil regularly,
[1:32:39] and that's the reason I drive cars for 25 years and hundreds of thousands of miles.
[1:32:44] that's not the sales pitch, but that's what I do. I really don't like going to mckinney to do an oil change because that's the sales tax
[1:32:53] that mckinney gets when I change my oil every three or four months. I'm all in.
[1:32:58] I mean, I like the product. It's not it's not joe's garage. It's it's a national reputable brand.
[1:33:05] I was just thinking what we have here in town, we've got walmart quit car.
[1:33:10] I think there's I don't know where else you can get oil change. I don't agree that this is something that we have all over town so I'm in.
[1:33:19] >> more on your note. You said walmart and quicar. Those are more in the middle of antlata.
[1:33:25] I'm far north. I have nothing. I can't even get gas. I have to go all the way to the middle of antlata on the way out to mckinney,
[1:33:31] and I prefer to spend my money here. This would be a good addition for me. Personally.
[1:33:36] >> just to touch on that too and to address your point coming from an automotive background.
[1:33:42] this is actually a specialized. It's specifically a quick service maintenance only.
[1:33:48] they're just doing fluid changes and then letting you know if they see anything,
[1:33:53] but they're not there to fix it. Quick car, for instance, is a full service automotive or brakes plus,
[1:34:00] any of the shops, the first choice, they do everything. But this place is just to get in,
[1:34:05] get out, and get you back on the road. Also to touch on that,
[1:34:09] from what I've been exposed to in the automotive industry, 30 some odd years.
[1:34:15] I've watched the alveoln a quick service places come up. They're generally the higher end of these quick service quick loops. Just thought.
[1:34:25] >> I mean, great points. I appreciate you providing a context.
[1:34:31] on that. I'm divided.
[1:34:36] I understand where you guys are coming from. There's nothing on the northern side. To your point it may be a higher end product but,
[1:34:45] once again, it just for me, it doesn't reach here. I would highly encourage you if you guys feel it does vote where you guys need to,
[1:34:53] but just for me alone. It's going to be a hard hurl, but I really do appreciate you.
[1:34:58] I think the product is great. It's just not for me. But thank you so much.
[1:35:05] >> you've closed the public hearing, correct? >> yes. I'll make a motion that we approve. >> I second.
[1:35:16] >> how about that. We have a motion in a second, if you would, please cast your votes.
[1:35:25] thank you, sir. Motion carries 5, 2.
[1:35:34] takes us to item f. Conduct a public hearing to consider,
[1:35:39] discuss and act on an ordinance to amend article 9.04 of the zoning ordinance of the city of anna code of ordinances,
[1:35:45] ta 25-0002, ms. Mickey. >> hope you're not sick of me.
[1:35:50] this item is a result of
[1:35:55] having several years with our new zoning ordinance from august of 2023.
[1:36:00] we've only made one change since then, and that was for the vape shops, the cbd.
[1:36:08] as we have gone through projects, we have seen,
[1:36:13] maybe there are too many of one certain type of use, and the zoning ordinance is intended to be
[1:36:18] a living document where changes are made as we see problems. Additionally, state law has made some changes to noticing requirements.
[1:36:28] I came before you a couple of meetings ago and gave you this list.
[1:36:34] the planning and zoning commission recommended approval with an additional change to the board of adjustment section.
[1:36:40] some examples is removing references to the comprehensive plan in each zoning district,
[1:36:46] as well as excluding powell parkway for a distance of 1,500 feet for residential districts,
[1:36:54] providing more flexibility within our downtown district. We've run into a few problems because there are utilities on these properties,
[1:37:03] and the build-to zones weren't making any sense as well as having a landscape buffer that overlaps with a build-to zone.
[1:37:10] providing some clarity. We had put in the sign regulations about what enhanced landscaping means,
[1:37:18] but we did not put that in the landscape ordinance. We are cleaning that up,
[1:37:23] as well as adding for the stepback regulations
[1:37:27] about rooftop patios and making that clear that if you're going to build a four story building,
[1:37:34] you're not going to put a rooftop patio in that stepback zone.
[1:37:39] we had accidentally removed the stacking requirements for banks,
[1:37:44] dry cleaners, kiosks, so we're adding that language back.
[1:37:49] requiring fencing and shrubs to protect children at play.
[1:37:54] we have run into a lot of hoas putting playgrounds right up against the street,
[1:38:00] and this is how we are trying to push that back,
[1:38:04] and provide safety to our residents. This one is in regards to the state laws.
[1:38:11] all zoning cases now have to be posted on the city website. Then if a property is being rezoned or there's a text amendment in
[1:38:21] regards to land uses that will make the current property land use,
[1:38:26] a non-conforming land use. We have to provide a special notice to that property owner.
[1:38:35] this one, it was defining what frontage build-out means for the downtown district.
[1:38:41] the current definition did not make any sense, and so I grabbed this from another city.
[1:38:48] then for the makeup of the board of adjustment,
[1:38:53] basically, we are just wanting to make it consistent with all of the other boards.
[1:38:58] the state allows for two alternates, but it doesn't say that we have to have five members and two alternates.
[1:39:05] we're just cleaning it up to say seven members that way everyone knows who's voting and who's not.
[1:39:10] then the planning and zoning commission did catch
[1:39:15] that we needed to take out may and change the number of members.
[1:39:21] the planning and zoning commission recommended approval.
[1:39:25] >> I'm going to go open this public hearing at 7:47 pm.
[1:39:29] I have no cards up here, anyone wishing to speak? Last call?
[1:39:34] I'm going to close this public hearing at 7:47 pm. Council, any questions or discussion?
[1:39:41] >> yes. Can you go back one slide, please? I just had a question on number 5.
[1:39:47] it says vacancies shall be filled for unexpired terms, but no member shall be appointed to a term in excess of two years.
[1:39:54] that's if someone steps off or something, just a vacancy that's appointed, correct? >> correct.
[1:39:59] >> is there any language in there or does it also meet that no more than two consecutive terms,
[1:40:05] so someone steps off and then can get back on? Make sure that's somewhere.
[1:40:10] >> the way that the city charter is written, for the board of adjustment,
[1:40:15] it specifically says reference the boards and commission section of the charter.
[1:40:20] however, we do have to have this portion within the zoning ordinance about board of adjustment.
[1:40:26] >> perfect. Thank you.
[1:40:31] >> if there's no discussion, I'll move to approve. >> second.
[1:40:37] >> who second? >> I did.
[1:40:44] >> we have a motion and a second. If you would, please cast your votes.
[1:40:49] [background] [laughter]
[1:41:08] >> good call. >> motion passes unanimously.
[1:41:13] that takes us to item g. Consider discuss an act on a resolution authorizing the purchase of a mobile command center from blackstone tower partners,
[1:41:19] llc., dba draxxon for the use by the anna police department. Police chief dean habel.
[1:41:27] >> good evening, mayor and council. I'm dean habel, the police.
[1:41:32] I've also got corporal josh up here, and I challenge you to stump him with any question
[1:41:38] about this that you can because he knows every inch of it. We'll have a q&a at the end.
[1:41:43] but I wanted to talk a little bit about how we got here.
[1:41:48] about six or seven months ago, we had draxxon in and they demoted a trailer for us.
[1:41:55] it is a 16' trailer. It has a drone takeoff area from it.
[1:42:04] it also has a pole cam and we'll get into some of the specs on the next slide.
[1:42:08] but we were absolutely blown away by the product.
[1:42:15] we invited a lot of city departments in to take a look at it. Everybody said the same thing,
[1:42:19] that wow, this would be a nice addition of the city, but at the time, there was no money available, we didn't have anything budgeted for it.
[1:42:24] mr. Marshon reached out about six weeks ago and mentioned that there might be some one time funds available,
[1:42:34] so we put together this proposal and that's why we're here tonight. Some of the purposes and some of the reasons we
[1:42:40] would be looking at this in some of the use cases, it enhances public safety with increased situation awareness
[1:42:46] for officers and emergency management staff. There's a lot of different uses for this beyond the police department.
[1:42:53] emergency management being one. If you've got a natural disaster and you need to deploy this for three or four days,
[1:43:00] you can leave it in the field and rotate staff through it over that time period.
[1:43:06] it also has more effective communication with the eoc or emergency operation center during natural disasters.
[1:43:13] can be deployed areas where drone and over-watch capabilities are needed.
[1:43:18] this comes with a matrice drone, which is a little bit more of a robust larger drone,
[1:43:24] a little more weather resistant drone than the ones that we put in the air that you've seen some of the videos from.
[1:43:30] it also has a 26' pole cam that's got a pretty good sit line.
[1:43:36] provides mobile command post capabilities, live feed streaming for drones to field supervisors
[1:43:42] and command and serves multiple city departments. Some of the components.
[1:43:49] it's climate controlled, three interior work stations, with monitors and an additional two 47" flat screen tvs.
[1:44:00] it's got independently powered wi-fi. If wi-fi ever were to go down here at city hall or throughout the city,
[1:44:07] this has its own wi-fi source, it's generator powered, so we would be able to have connectivity there.
[1:44:13] like I mentioned, it's got the 26' exterior mounted pole cam.
[1:44:19] exterior media base. It's got a lift top,
[1:44:23] almost like a store front to where you can put an awning out and operate it from the outside as well.
[1:44:30] integrated with dronesense and fusus. Fusus is the newest addition to our technology platform,
[1:44:37] which we can pull up any city camera. We can pull it up by a geofence.
[1:44:43] we're adding vendors to that very soon through axon,
[1:44:48] and we'll be able to have citywide access to different video feeds if we're given permissions.
[1:44:59] the minimum staffing required to operate this is just two, but it can accommodate probably up to
[1:45:05] about eight if you include the exterior individuals.
[1:45:09] with that, we'd be happy to answer any questions. Wait one more thing. I'm sorry.
[1:45:14] we did reach out to arlington. We wanted to get a use case and an example to draw from locally because there was a lot.
[1:45:23] they've got these deployed nationwide, but we want somebody local that we trusted and knew that was a reputable department.
[1:45:29] we reached out to arlington. Corporate spoke to their staff and uses these for all their special events,
[1:45:36] any prolonged incident, they had nothing, but good things to say about draxxon,
[1:45:40] the product, and the customer support. Now we're ready for questions.
[1:45:45] >> council. >> [overlapping] I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[1:45:50] >> how big is this drone? >> the drone itself,
[1:45:55] I would say probably about three times the size of the ones that you see, the little mavic.
[1:46:03] do you know the specs on the drone specifically? Move on.
[1:46:09] >> it's about 80" square all the way around. It's about twice the size of what we currently deploy.
[1:46:16] >> thank you.
[1:46:21] >> are you going to use this to support any of the neighboring cities as well [inaudible] any of the other partners around here?
[1:46:27] are you going to use this to support any of our other cities nearby? >> absolutely. This would be one of the things that we came before you
[1:46:35] with was this ila that we put together with princeton, melissa, and celina.
[1:46:40] this is something that we would be able to use to support other cities. Va, we would be happy to support them.
[1:46:47] but there's a lot of individual instances where we could pull this thing out and help neighboring cities.
[1:46:55] we wanted to have something that we could offer that is unique to us.
[1:47:00] some of these cities are propping up swat teams that we're going to be drawing from,
[1:47:05] potential dispatch centers that we've got a meeting on tomorrow. There's a lot of different things that other cities are going to be offering,
[1:47:12] we want to have something as well. >> I truly appreciate you taking leadership with
[1:47:17] your police service around the general area and helping provide these services.
[1:47:22] then one final thing, when you get those cool drone videos, can you put some bad boys music or something on it?
[1:47:28] because that first one was so cool. [laughter] >> we'll give it a shot. >> thank you.
[1:47:33] >> a couple of questions. So natural disasters, it happens.
[1:47:37] the texas hurricane we had two weeks ago. If we ever had a major one,
[1:47:43] I worked for power line service, so I see it like mobile cell boosters,
[1:47:49] tower, temporary cell towers. Is there going to be anything like that,
[1:47:53] or are we just internet only? >> this would not be included in that.
[1:47:58] generally, we can reach out to vendors and they can bring out the boosters.
[1:48:03] >> sorry. Let's say power does go out in the city.
[1:48:09] this has power, this has the internet. What about your communications to your officers throughout the city?
[1:48:15] does this help boost that signal as well? >> no, it's not going to boost the radio signal,
[1:48:21] but it would provide a charging station. We could put charging stations in there to charge the radios.
[1:48:27] we could operate out of there for a short period of time, almost like it's a police department, mobile police post.
[1:48:34] >> I hate asking this question, please don't put your hand on the gun.
[1:48:38] will we need a different truck to pull it or what we have now currently,
[1:48:45] we have something that will be dedicated to this trailer or how does that work?
[1:48:51] >> I'll let you talk a little bit about that. >> because it looks heavy, because you got generator,
[1:48:56] you got tvs, you've got equipment, so it's heavy. I don't know if can our tahoe pull it because of the capacity and whatnot.
[1:49:04] >> the size of the trailer was specifically chosen so that the tahoes and
[1:49:09] our current pickups could handle being able to pull that and deploy it.
[1:49:14] >> that's right. We do have a pickup, don't we? >> yes, sir. >> I forget about that.
[1:49:18] so I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank and I'll take an opportunity. Thank you, you guys for everything you do and all that. So appreciate it.
[1:49:28] >> well, mark and jeff, I think this outdoes our drone that we use for the parks. It's about this big.
[1:49:37] this has a range of 21, 22 miles from the base station. It's incredible.
[1:49:46] if anybody wants to look it up is the ggi matrix. It looks very,
[1:49:52] let's say something from the terminator movies. It's really intimidating. To maximize its usage,
[1:50:00] I know we're setting side phones used for public safety, but we'll be available for other city functions
[1:50:07] or will planning and zoning be able to use it or any of that thing?
[1:50:12] >> absolutely. We're limited basically by our own imagination. We can use it for the special events.
[1:50:18] historically, we've borrowed minuteman responses much larger trailer.
[1:50:26] this is going to let us operate out of that. We would be able to use it at boots and booms or any of the other city special events.
[1:50:35] we have incorporated the use of the drones recently at the city events.
[1:50:41] we were providing security for the prayer vigil that was out here last weekend.
[1:50:46] we had drones in the air. We're trying to stay out of sight out of mind, but we also wanted to protect the people that were there.
[1:50:52] this is just another way we can do that.
[1:50:57] >> I got to ride with mark during the previous storm.
[1:51:01] I noticed this handles quite a bit of wind and stays in place.
[1:51:08] from someone who loves flying drones, I'm telling you this is really impressive.
[1:51:12] I'm hoping that city council gets a chance to fly it too. That's all I got.
[1:51:17] I appreciate the homework on this. I think it's a much needed piece of equipment. I'd like to meet [inaudible]
[1:51:23] >> straight question on real quick. I mean, I'm looking at the equipment and the unit itself.
[1:51:30] is there a life expectancy, a lifespan on this? Is there a backup to it that y'all have?
[1:51:37] >> we did not get into life expectancy of it.
[1:51:42] essentially, the components that go out in it,
[1:51:46] we would probably replace them on an ad hoc basis and plan on holding onto this for quite some time.
[1:51:53] I don't see us retiring it in five years or anything like that. This thing we're going to have it for the long haul,
[1:51:59] and as technology upgrades, we'll be able to swap it out, keeps rolling.
[1:52:04] >> mayor I'll make a motion that we approve item 7g if there's no more questions.
[1:52:09] >> I'll second. >> I thought I did that. >> no, [inaudible]
[1:52:13] >> you got to be quick. I have a motion and a second, you get the second.
[1:52:18] if you would, please cast your votes.
[1:52:24] thank you, gentlemen. Motion passes unanimously.
[1:52:29] unless I'm mistaken, there is no reason for closed session, am I right?
[1:52:33] no reason for closed session. Seeing no objection, we adjourn.