[0:12] through there
for a horse and carriage
[0:18] that one there's a thing but not for the
town to use it it's for our Telly to use
[0:22] it for a horse and carriage meaning
[0:29] the white one
[0:38] yeah so it's on the Cindy Wilson side
yeah
[0:43] well that was
I always thought they were there in
[0:46] place already
[0:50] as long as I can remember
yeah that's work that's going back 30
[0:54] years and that's what like she's not
back a horse and carriage yeah
[1:05] goodness
[1:22] follow him
[1:32] did it freeze on you
seems to have song
[1:56] you stop it and try to start again
[2:33] I think spotlights
[2:37] [Music]
[3:05] I don't know if this applies to you but
I know I have to shut down everything
[3:09] every so often
well in this computer was shut down oh
[3:14] yeah that's right we came in
[3:24] actually this time
[3:35] they're loading and there's two of them
that are showing up now on the YouTube
[3:39] page
and you can probably hear us in the
[3:43] background
trying to figure this out
[3:47] but it's it's falling out again
hmm
[3:52] but if there are two of them up right
no no they'll be like three seconds yeah
[3:59] videos well it's this one's three
minutes
[4:03] three minutes of us talking in the
background trying to get this to load
[4:08] this one's only one minute 57 seconds
[4:12] yeah
I was just wondering if it was but it's
[4:17] not doing I don't even hear anything
[4:22] what I just received yeah
without YouTube
[4:37] try to work in the background if you
want
[4:43] [Music]
um I will read this up just in case you
[4:49] can go live stream
[4:52] uh live streaming of Council meetings
today's meeting is hopefully being
[4:57] streamed live on the town novels royal
YouTube channel to those presents in the
[5:01] gallery today by attending a public
meeting of the council you're consenting
[5:04] to having your image voice and comments
recorded
[5:07] anyone who is invited to speak will be
recorded and their voice they mentioned
[5:11] comments will form part of the live
stream
[5:13] the chair and or to CAO have the
discretion on Authority at any time to
[5:18] direct determination or Interruption of
live streaming such such direction will
[5:22] only be given in the exceptional
circumstances when being relevant
[5:28] so I'm going to call to order the
community of the whole for May the 3rd
[5:32] 2023 at 605
I would like to acknowledge that we are
[5:38] in I mean
the traditional territory of the mix
[5:43] muggy people
uh present
[5:48] is uh mayor angry Boyer counselor
Tompkins
[5:54] councilor Holly Sanford's on live stream
and regret to be a counselor or Paula
[6:01] happening
uh addition to the agenda
[6:05] so I have some changes to the agenda so
unfortunately
[6:10] um Director of Finance Melanie Robinson
is sick today so we will put the
[6:15] quarterly reports on the council agenda
and hopefully she'll feel better soon
[6:21] um I'd like to add an update on the
small title project under presentations
[6:28] under a new business I would like to add
under nine two the MPS strategy
[6:37] amendments public meeting date
under nine three gratification of
[6:44] electronic vote for the water pumps
[6:48] and that's everything I have
um did the pathway agreement
[6:53] go down for item one
well that was already on the agenda it
[6:57] was on permeable
[7:01] okay uh any other any of it no Ollie
that's it no
[7:07] okay
uh
[7:10] uh approval of the agenda with the
amendments
[7:14] on the approval
I'll second
[7:17] all those in favor all right
approval of the community of the whole
[7:22] minutes of April the 12th 2023
[7:28] um changing nope
on this type of motion on I guess
[7:34] uh consent yeah yeah okay
[7:39] uh straight in the presentations
[7:43] right so so mayor boy and Bill Crossman
is here
[7:47] um
we'll send it over to you
[7:51] so we have a document that we sent out
to tell members of accounts I'm not sure
[7:54] if was in the public package
yeah so the purpose of today is to
[8:00] update counts on where we are with the
small scale Community title power
[8:04] project and Bill Crossman is here to
answer any questions you may have so my
[8:09] update will be brief
uh we're composing a work plan based on
[8:14] the response we received from fcm for
our application for green fund signature
[8:20] project uh so we did receive a response
from NCM the encouraged Council to
[8:25] proceed with the project but said that a
more rigorous feasibility study would be
[8:30] required than the one that was submitted
so
[8:33] we have found out since then that there
is money from fcm for approximately 50
[8:40] of eligible costs for this project
um
[8:45] so in our work plan we've said the first
thing we need to do is find out who
[8:49] could conduct a feasibility study on the
pilot project for a title project of
[8:55] this type
um we found uh through references not
[8:59] direct contact with the companies that
cbcl would be one of the companies
[9:04] capable of doing it Ms consulting which
is the same firm that was hired by the
[9:10] nsurb and the nsbi case would be
qualified may not be able to do the
[9:15] project because of ongoing business with
nspi we have not approached them our own
[9:21] consulting firm for the town probably
would not be able to do but could
[9:25] perhaps be approached to obtain an order
of magnitude costs so what we're
[9:29] proposing is before we approach any
potential Partners since Council wanted
[9:34] to receive a feasibility study the next
question would be well who pays for it
[9:38] including grants including potential
Partners so we need an order of
[9:43] magnitude costs before we approach
potential partners and there were three
[9:48] we would approach so including ourselves
would be the town of Middleton the town
[9:52] of kemple potentially Bear River First
Nation who we're meeting with in June to
[9:56] see if they're interested
once we have the order of magnitude cost
[10:00] the draft expression of interest and
you've received a copy so the copy is
[10:05] before you
um and then we would need to nail down
[10:10] the potential sources of funds with
Partners
[10:14] Grant grants Etc then we could approach
a potential funders see if the previous
[10:20] funders are still interested
um then we'd issue an expression of
[10:25] Interest provided we had a good idea
where the money would come from and we'd
[10:29] refer the responses and recommendations
to council so that's basically where we
[10:34] are in terms of work planning and Bill's
here to answer any technical questions
[10:39] you may have which I cannot answer
so are there any questions
[10:43] so the study yeah so the study how how
much do you think the study is going to
[10:49] cost just to do that
170
[10:58] 000 Max yeah
so multiply that times two and uh that's
[11:04] the bigger but but we're thinking it
could be less than that yeah we don't
[11:09] know because our original project was
388 000. yeah
[11:15] um so we don't really know which is why
we're recommending we do an order of
[11:19] magnitude cost First to get before we go
to the market let's find out what it
[11:24] could cost and these two companies we
could approach for an idea and one of
[11:28] you mentioned a few Partners what about
reaching back out to the county is that
[11:33] an option it certainly is yeah you know
because there's definitely different
[11:39] people at the table now so yes we could
we could do that Holly yeah I think that
[11:44] would be smart if it comes to that
did sem give guidelines on on the
[11:52] rigorous requirements yes so in the
expression of Interest draft we've set
[11:58] out what their requirements were okay so
that is copied directly from the
[12:02] information we've got received from fcm
and to be doubly careful we can send
[12:07] them the expression of interest just to
make sure it's going to cover what they
[12:10] want yeah okay
we can add that to the word
[12:16] and on the
oh this is for Bill I guess on the
[12:19] technical side
you had there was a
[12:24] demo not a demo but uh
being
[12:31] sort of knowing I guess
has that gone further like that did you
[12:37] there was some Authority uh details in
the Prototype that you were
[12:43] looking at getting
um
[12:48] uh
we're going to do a product project is
[12:53] that what you remember no I I think but
the the unit itself had to go through
[12:57] like not testing but actually it could
be
[13:02] scale that yeah
um yeah well that would be part of the
[13:06] pilot project for successful with
getting a positive result out of the
[13:14] um
the
[13:16] feasibility study uh and then we were
successful with the pilot
[13:22] Project funding then the testing the the
changes to the Prototype and all the
[13:29] testing would be part of the pilot
[13:35] now originally you guys are doing like
the plan was to do a number of these
[13:39] units throughout the
the Basin area because they were smaller
[13:43] units you didn't have to you know they
weren't going to be huge besides well we
[13:47] were we were starting with a
uh starting point about a one meter
[13:53] diameter
um turbine okay and all the testing so
[13:59] far has been done in a very Scout small
scale just about nine inches in diameter
[14:05] very small prototype we want to bring
that up to a thousand
[14:10] uh
size was a centimeter and all right
[14:18] so time frame I guess would be the only
other you guys have a time frame we'll
[14:22] go
so the feasibility study is blocking any
[14:26] movement right now in the project so we
need to get through that
[14:30] yeah and then the timeline gets pushed
out the longer this goes on so who would
[14:34] have liked to be doing it this year but
now would be pushed out to they won't
[14:39] make a decision as soon as the
feasibility study is completed they say
[14:43] yes or no and then it's another
application to do the pilot that we
[14:47] wanted to do last year
[14:51] and the only reason we continue to push
it is it's our best Revenue generation
[14:55] project so far in terms of replacing the
money at the causeway this so far
[15:01] remains to be our our best Prospect
do you need counsel to make any
[15:07] recommendations to help
no it's just to make sure I just wanted
[15:12] to brief you where we are yeah there's a
feasibility study and you'd asked us to
[15:18] pursue it so this is the next step yeah
we're trying to get uh we're trying to
[15:24] get funding for it and it looks like we
have three sources of funding outside of
[15:29] the municipal units right now that we
could go after yeah well I really I
[15:35] really hope that you can get through
this first step right
[15:39] the first hurdle yeah
not easy
[15:47] so we'll we'll send something out and
see if we can get a costing on what the
[15:51] feasibility requirements yeah and go
from there we'll just okay proceed in
[15:57] that direction if council is fine with
that yeah
[16:01] comments on that
no I'm good thanks
[16:06] public input Bill did you want to make
any public info
[16:11] uh no I'm fine
and we're into new and unfinished
[16:17] business
so request for decision agreement for
[16:20] pathway tattoo
oh yeah
[16:26] so the art D was in your application
um with three options
[16:33] so
um one option is that the town the
[16:36] council does not enter into an informal
agreement and we stop you know cease
[16:42] using the pathway so
um there is the option that people can
[16:48] spark in the parking lot behind
um the cafe and artillery and use the
[16:56] road that we do have an agreement with
the lodge and
[17:02] um salmon Thea yeah so we do have two
agreements for people to exit the
[17:08] property that way
one is that we
[17:12] um
fix the stairs repair them and then hand
[17:15] it back over so it's a safe auction or
enter into the agreements with them
[17:23] and then use it as public space now they
the
[17:28] owners of the property would just like
it to be seasonal because when they put
[17:32] on the new metal roof
um bison snow falls down there so
[17:37] um
so
[17:41] um can I can I just make the
recommendation and then let's talk about
[17:47] it or do we want to talk about it first
and then
[17:50] well the three different proposals here
so maybe we should talk about it first
[17:55] and narrow down which one we're going to
reckon
[17:58] man okay
okay reasonable
[18:05] it is go ahead
[18:10] so I just have a question that I like
have we looked at the other side and
[18:15] making a agreement with the other side
yeah because because this person has
[18:21] come to us in that stuff
tip it so what happened is the railing
[18:26] is loose so she wanted us fix it and I
said well
[18:30] it's not on our property there's no
agreement that the town is liable to fix
[18:34] this
um so I'm not going to fix anything on
[18:40] public property unless I have some kind
of agreement or
[18:45] um
something to say that we should be
[18:48] fixing it
so
[18:55] this pathway is not accessible at all
the other side is fully accessible all
[19:00] we do to draw all the way for parking
lot
[19:04] this site is has steps two steps down
and then a walk and then three steps up
[19:10] on the other side yeah and that's why I
was just wondering if we're going to do
[19:15] this and we're going to go into an
agreement on one of these
[19:20] I think we should be looking at the
other side where it's accessible
[19:24] sidewalk already
[19:28] and they know that we want to close the
site up we close outside on
[19:32] because most people weren't using that
side they were using the other side
[19:37] and I know that the
I guess the Assumption was that it
[19:42] wasn't it was I was always a town right
away through there but I guess not
[19:48] which side that would be the
artelli side that they were asking for
[19:54] the other side or the other side
I guess the subject was both because the
[19:59] town had stairs the stairs going down
were always towns they were always
[20:02] maintaining that that's
that's right
[20:08] and in the winter it was open at the
same time yeah so that's my point we
[20:12] shouldn't be maintaining some private
property without an agreement in place
[20:17] like why are we shoveling this walkway
and yeah but
[20:22] and there's nothing I guess my concern
would be in winter
[20:28] we wouldn't be able to we're not using
that one could be closed it would be
[20:31] closed yeah
[20:35] so we don't have any right-of-way
through there we should be approaching
[20:39] both
Property Owners see if we can arrange so
[20:42] that's something on both sides
[20:48] I mean this has only been for
[20:54] currently so are you are you saying that
Public Works
[20:58] uh plow or shovel the walkway now
no it's not in the winter time they used
[21:06] to so yeah
[21:10] you can't have people going through
there because of sliding snow off the
[21:14] roof
yeah for sure right so they actually put
[21:19] a gate up on one side
and they put a they put a no pass on the
[21:23] on the steps so nobody gets hurt yeah
and I think that there's even a note
[21:27] about uh snow
like dangerous snow snow or ice could
[21:34] come off
currently that's there yeah
[21:40] so this would just be seasonal
and you're right it isn't accessible for
[21:47] wheelchair
so in the RFD I think we say that that
[21:53] would have to be addressed at a later
point
[21:56] and it would be a partially expense to
make inaccessible because it's
[22:01] one-to-one ratio for and accessible so
they are
[22:08] yeah so
I like the idea of offering it uh
[22:13] getting this one settled and I'm not
against approaching any other property
[22:17] owners no I I that's sort of what I was
thinking it would be great to have
[22:21] access for both to have an agreement but
I'm fine for the seasonal pathway for
[22:30] this area and then yeah approaching or
maybe even the owners of that property
[22:36] will approach us to
set up some sort of agreement
[22:42] I don't know
these guys did approach us or we
[22:47] wouldn't even be talking about it
[22:54] I don't know
[22:57] and later on making it accessible that's
not a bad thing for sure but it doesn't
[23:02] have to be done this year it doesn't
have to be done
[23:05] right away
so my only question is if we do reach go
[23:13] into this agreement will that gate stay
open all season
[23:22] doesn't have to stay open it's just
going to be yeah
[23:27] okay we'll have to stay open during this
through the season that we're open
[23:30] because it's not you want to uh it's not
a bear beside gate wouldn't go through
[23:35] it
thank you
[23:38] unless there was some sort of
I think just having it open would be
[23:43] nice I think basically in the summer
most of the times I notice it's opened
[23:47] anyway but
and that's where you get into it's not
[23:51] our gate right right right it's not on
our property we're just it's just access
[23:58] through yeah now
they're saying that we have
[24:04] um installed it so we will have to to
Bear the responsibility to fix it
[24:09] and the railing yeah yeah
[24:17] okay well I
I'm gonna go ahead and recommend the
[24:21] council to enter into their agreement
with the owner of 228 Saint George to
[24:27] provide a seasonal public pathway from
the parking lot PID
[24:34] 0-5003298 to St George Street
[24:39] and on second
[24:43] for the discussion
[24:50] there's no cost for what we're doing
here right now and then we have the big
[24:53] steps
the rail there yeah we have to yeah and
[24:57] then we'll have to
um
[25:01] we can file the agreement on the
property so that whoever owns the
[25:06] building the
agreement would go with it
[25:11] yeah
well it's that we'll have an option for
[25:14] access to the parking area yeah
[25:20] professional emotion
[25:23] follow those a favor bye
[25:29] okay
so moving on the municipal planning
[25:34] strategy
you're saying was a winning date
[25:38] yes so
um I think you have a draft motion for
[25:43] that as well
under the new minimum standards from the
[25:48] provincial
um governments
[25:52] we have to amend our MPS and Luv and
you'll see the course known as their
[25:57] under correspondence one from the
Municipal Affairs they have given us an
[26:02] extension to do this so this will set
the first public meeting there will be
[26:08] two public meetings
the first public meeting of June 6th at
[26:12] P hack so I'll move to recommend the
council to set the public meeting for
[26:16] the municipal planning strategy
Amendment regarding the new provincial
[26:19] minimum planning requirements on June 6
at 9 o'clock AM
[26:25] en
[26:28] um further discussion
on motion
[26:33] follow me
that's bush is awesome
[26:40] and ramification of electric vote for
the water pumps
[26:48] do you have the correct
motions at all I don't I don't have it
[26:55] okay so okay okay
[26:59] I will move the council pre-approved the
purchase of two three horsepower pumps
[27:05] and fix the leaking units the maximum of
15 000 from the
[27:11] 2023-2024 water capital budget and
missing of course is a description of
[27:17] where the pumps go
so we do have to add something to the
[27:21] motion
and they're at the water tower at the
[27:26] water tower which is in the hill as we
all know
[27:30] over to you girl second okay discussion
[27:37] hearing none questionable motion all of
those in favor
[27:41] aye
aye
[27:44] motion is passed I get the
recommendations right
[27:54] so
I have nothing on the alternative anyone
[27:58] on business business we're going into
the correspondence
[28:02] Minister Municipal Affairs and Housing
letter are our minimum plan requirements
[28:06] we have three
[28:13] and that's just a letter from the
minister giving us the extension until
[28:17] July 31st 2023.
[28:22] well that's just for um information yeah
[28:27] so that's why we had to get the dates
started and enrolling through
[28:33] okay
um Round Table
[28:37] okay I'll just bring up my report
uh sorry I thought I had it up but then
[28:43] I
[28:47] okay
[28:49] technology is wonderful when you
used to it
[28:55] okay
[28:59] so most of my time lately is being
involved with the title power project
[29:04] and sea level rise
so those two seem to be the two that are
[29:10] taking up most of the time right now
so when it comes to the title power
[29:15] plant we explain where we are with that
today not the title power plant I'm
[29:18] sorry with the title power project not
the plan so we went over that so I won't
[29:24] bore you with the details but we are
pursuing three Grant applications for
[29:28] that and I'll be assisting staff with
those or whatever I can help with
[29:33] uh the biggest thing of course is the
sea level rise report and we have a
[29:37] meeting with the CAO and I on Monday
with Matt alarm of the Atlantic
[29:43] infrastructure management Network and
we'll be following up on the coastal
[29:48] report so there were lots of things that
needed to change so we'll have enough
[29:52] data after that I think
uh for the sea level rise uh the uh for
[29:58] the sea wall uh We've also started staff
have started looking into potential
[30:03] sources of funding for that
and there are two major sources one is
[30:08] the adaptation and mitigation fund the
federal one which we have a foot in
[30:14] already but uh mask alarm did mention
other bigger funding that is coming out
[30:19] so we'll have more news on that as a
Monday so basically we're looking for
[30:24] money for the title pilot project hoping
that that will provide money for the sea
[30:29] level rise report so those two working
together
[30:34] um
we did have a successful meeting with
[30:37] fire Services yesterday CIO and I just
uh you know on Final negotiations so
[30:42] we'll have more to report for the
council meeting which is coming up uh
[30:47] twinning committee has been working
extremely hard uh thanks to staff for
[30:51] helping us send out multiple
invitations in English and French with
[30:56] different events for a very very charged
weekend so there's three major events
[31:02] that require limitations it was The
Binding cheese at the habitation is the
[31:06] official dinner on the Saturday night of
the the uh sorry of the United after the
[31:11] arriving so on the Saturday night and
Sunday of course the unveiling the
[31:15] plaque all of which required in the
patients more invitations need to go out
[31:19] for the sponsors but I did tell
Christine that I would be happy to
[31:23] assist with that that staff have their
hands full and did a great job issuing
[31:28] the main invitations
we can handle between us we'll be able
[31:31] to handle the sponsor invitations
so that's basically my report I sent a
[31:37] copy out to Krista Krista if there's any
questions the responding if not that's
[31:42] it that's my report in this one oh yes
and I neglected to say on Saturday I
[31:47] will be attending the proclamation for
King Charles III which will be happening
[31:53] here on the town steps at 11 o'clock
it's not a large ceremony but Christine
[31:58] did a lovely poster time Crowder coaster
and she has a copy of the Proclamation
[32:02] and they'll be there with the chain of
office which uh somebody was good enough
[32:07] to get on the stage for me thank you
Sammy
[32:11] excellent yeah
um
[32:18] okay okay well unfortunately I'm going
to miss the uh events Saturday I'm in
[32:26] New Brunswick but uh I'm sure it'll be
well attended and it will be fun
[32:32] we've been working really hard with
natal day so we're gearing up for some
[32:37] new activities for the weekend we're
looking for volunteers
[32:42] we'll be sending out a requests to put
an ad in our booklet in the next week or
[32:49] so so any business that's interested
that's our big fundraiser so we're
[32:54] hoping that people will step up and be a
part of that uh and always yeah more
[33:00] volunteers for sure but yeah we've got a
good team this year and
[33:05] I think it's going to be a great uh
weekend that's about it
[33:10] there you go
um
[33:13] um I will also not be there on Saturday
I'll be in having a good news with my
[33:17] daughter's graduation
from nursing it would be Liz on the
[33:21] Sunday so we're traveling up on a
Saturday
[33:25] um I
the only thing I I have on my Round
[33:28] Table is and when we had our um for the
medic meeting the meet and greet at the
[33:33] Hub
um it was pointed out to me at that time
[33:37] the Wayne Boucher uh painting
was uh
[33:43] the chairs and stuff roll up against it
and it might be it was suggested that we
[33:50] might take a look at doing some sort of
barrier system up there around it maybe
[33:54] a plexiglass in the lower portion so
people aren't bumping into it
[33:59] um
[34:03] General conversation other than that I
don't have anything else on my Round
[34:07] Table
I had a question for counselor Sanford
[34:12] yes it was uh did the naval Day
committee apply for any grants this year
[34:19] uh yes so we applied for the turbine the
wind turbine one and we applied for uh
[34:31] Royal Bank and they're giving us 1500.
thank you thank you
[34:40] oh sorry I was just going to say that
being said we do have a little bit of
[34:47] money that we may be able to bump up the
fireworks from what the town has set
[34:52] aside for fireworks
which would be nice
[34:58] there's a there's Federal programs too
though where if it's an event is over a
[35:03] weekend
established I don't think this is
[35:08] yeah okay but they do remember as an
accountant yeah the county has um
[35:15] their events in a festivals
um uh grants that could also be tapped
[35:21] into
[35:24] has been very successful
um getting grants from the county so
[35:29] natal Day committee
um because that is
[35:33] a community uh event definitely so it's
in the area yeah
[35:37] just another option yeah okay thank you
I will message the group perfect
[35:46] um in camera now so in camera we have
contract negotiations and approval of a
[35:55] commuted whole entire minutes of one of
April the 12th 2013. so I need a motion
[36:01] to go in and there's two other items are
there yeah I think legal and personal
[36:06] Personnel oh sorry yeah on the back side
legal yeah okay
[36:13] I'll move that we go into camera to
discuss the things mentioned well a
[36:17] second
[36:22] so since I don't think we were live do
you want to just stop the we're not
[36:26] recording so that Kim if he wants to
post it can
[36:30] post it without the yeah absolutely all
right there's you open YouTube there's
[36:36] probably gonna be 25 30 13 second video
either it's not on our end yeah on
[36:43] YouTube there's nothing we can do about
it yeah yeah
[36:47] um so yes I will uh pause the recording