[0:06] I can't see that. [0:27] Okay, [0:29] and [0:31] alsy [0:48] and justice for all. [0:58] usual [1:01] Thursday. Still the same issue. [1:07] Uh number two on the agenda, [1:12] review and approve minutes of August [1:14] 25th, 2026. [1:18] Make a motion to review and approve the [1:20] minutes of August 25th, 2026. [1:25] Motion. [1:36] » I'll second that. [1:38] >> We have a second. Any discussion? [1:42] None on the favor. All opposed. Salute 5 [1:49] 2 B review and approve treasurer [1:52] warrants. [1:54] Make a motion to review and approve the [1:56] treasure warrants. [1:59] >> Second it motion and second. Further [2:02] discussion. [2:08] >> Yes. [2:10] >> Uh warrant number 93 payroll. [2:14] Uh [2:16] 34 is $12,125. [2:22] Warrant number 94. [2:25] Town AP is $454,29.77. [2:32] Warrant 95 payroll number 35 is [2:37] $10,48911. [2:42] And one number 96 is town AP with [2:47] $388,79044 [2:53] with a total of $865,51.37. [3:04] Any discussion? [3:09] So we have a motion. We have a second. [3:12] All in favor? [3:14] All opposed. So move 5 Z [clears throat] [3:18] presentation regular agenda. You guys [3:20] can help you have to help me with this. [3:24] [clears throat and cough] [3:26] Um discussion regarding resident tax [3:30] payment issues in foreclosure on account [3:34] R441. [3:43] And that is [3:49] see we also talk about it down [3:53] C [3:59] This is [4:16] » I don't think we have [4:20] It's in here. [4:22] >> It's either It's either U 4 A or 5 C. [4:35] That's [4:52] okay. [5:09] Good [5:14] on I guess. [5:48] Okay, it's on this [6:00] Yeah. [6:09] » So, I don't find it. [6:11] >> You got to keep going. It's in the back. [6:13] It's further down. [6:15] >> Yeah. I've taken them all out and uh [6:18] trying to [6:20] But this one. [6:22] >> Yes, that's the one. [6:25] >> Yep. [6:26] >> I think this is Isn't this the one where [6:28] the He owns the property but not the [6:31] house? [6:33] >> Yes. The trailer, [6:35] right? [6:38] » Huh? [6:39] >> Property name. [6:40] >> Kovac. [6:42] >> But that's your [6:46] >> Oh, it's yours. [6:47] >> Yeah. [6:47] >> Oh, okay. Okay. [7:07] » There should be emails in there on that [7:10] from the board, I think. [7:22] two legs. It was [7:25] first [7:57] No. [8:06] Amazing [8:15] disappear. [9:00] So, is this what's due? That's what's [9:04] due. Yes, I do. [9:14] I guess [clears throat] [9:22] » we didn't have this information before. [9:25] So [9:28] >> that's why a little confused. [9:55] Okay, let's move on to the next one. And [9:57] if somebody will keep looking back 12 [10:03] [clears throat and cough] [10:04] discuss to approve resignation of Chris [10:08] Ross from the planning board and appoint [10:10] Maryanne A. [10:18] » Please accept an email as a letter of [10:20] resignation from planning board. Thank [10:23] you for the opportunity of interest [10:28] and Maryanne had submitted a application [10:34] for that [10:41] uh extra but we don't have extras. So [10:45] now it's [10:46] okay. She had to be sworn in by angel or [10:50] >> we'll have to be by someone tomorrow. [10:55] So we make a motion to accept Chris [10:58] Chris's resignation and [11:01] a [11:03] >> correct. [11:08] So we have a motion and second. Any [11:10] further discussion? [11:14] Seeing none. All in favor? [11:18] All those move. [11:28] » Congratulations. [11:32] » I was going to say once I get some money [11:34] then we'll [11:35] >> we'll see whether I'm [11:37] >> sure it works out. [11:40] uh or the uh C discussion of the [11:43] nomination of the late John Harry Bryant [11:47] for the many things he did for our [11:48] community as mentioned in the most [11:51] recent ant court dedication by Bruce [11:54] Lamry of Spirit of America. [11:59] Um [12:03] that is I believe [12:08] was the hometown bureau. No. [12:10] >> No. [12:12] >> Somebody else. Ready? [12:13] >> No. That's that. [12:19] » So, we need to make a motion [12:23] Harry Bry for the Spirit of America. [12:30] Huh? We have done that already. [12:32] >> No, we did that one. [12:34] >> We did it for the town. [12:36] >> Report. We didn't do this. We didn't [12:38] have anybody nominated for this. [12:44] » I think they put it out on the web page [12:45] to see if anyone else was nominated. [12:49] >> We did talk about it, but [13:04] » Oh, they weren't. [13:06] he suggested to nominate and we decided [13:10] to put it out to the residents to see if [13:13] they might have any input [13:16] and and [13:18] [snorts] [13:27] anybody [13:32] did you just make a motion? [13:52] >> Yeah, I did. [13:53] >> Okay. [13:54] >> Yeah, I need a second. [13:55] >> Oh, second. Sorry. Sorry. [13:57] >> Did we have a second? [13:58] >> Sure. [13:59] >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. [14:01] [clears throat] Then it was further [14:03] discussion. Now it's all in favor. [14:06] [clears throat and cough] [14:07] All opposed. So moved. [14:18] [clears throat] [14:20] Uh 4 D discussion regarding residents [14:23] interest on his 200 real estate [14:26] properties due to issues with the one [14:29] discussed in last selecting meeting. [14:34] Yeah, [14:36] it makes some sense once you see it. [14:40] He made payment on three properties and [14:45] somebody else had made a payment. [14:47] >> Yes. [14:48] >> And so now what he's asking for is to [14:50] not have to pay interest on the one that [14:55] didn't pay or that got paid, but he [14:58] doesn't have to pay it now because of [14:59] his. [15:01] So he has three properties [15:04] he wants to pay on all on one check, but [15:07] one of those properties is messed up [15:10] [clears throat] with Toby Pinkham. He [15:12] asked me today if he would be charged [15:15] interest on the other account because he [15:17] isn't able to pay on the messed up one. [15:20] I told him I would take it. [15:24] Shouldn't if it's supposed to be in his [15:26] name but it was in Toby, shouldn't [15:28] [clears throat] [15:29] >> they be evading it and then doing a [15:31] supplemental which would then give him [15:33] the 30 days or whatever to make the [15:35] payment. [15:36] >> So there wouldn't be interest cuz he [15:38] hasn't gotten the bill technically for [15:39] it. He'll get a supplemental. So the [15:41] assessor should be evading Toby and [15:44] supplementing him which would give him [15:45] that time. So that's no [15:50] the assessment needs to be on that one. [15:53] Toby will not be charged in your [15:56] >> shouldn't be [15:57] >> if it's in Toby's name and it should be [15:59] correct in his [16:01] >> then there should be there should be an [16:03] abatement and then there should be a [16:05] supplemental that will cover that to [16:07] give him the time to do that. [16:10] >> Yep. [16:14] Uh or e discussion regarding community [16:18] service organizations annual funding sorry [16:24] discussion regarding community service [16:27] organizations annual funding request [16:29] guidelines. [16:31] >> I don't know what this is. [16:40] I think it looks like he's asking how do [16:42] you get on the [16:44] warrant normally? [16:48] Do people have to do petitions or can [16:50] they just put a request in for funding? [16:57] » So they have to put in a request. [16:59] >> Just a request, not a petition. They [17:00] don't have to get sandwich. [17:02] >> No, not for the food. [17:06] >> Yeah. [17:08] I think that's what if I skip this real [17:10] fast that's that's what he's asking. [17:12] >> So I think one of the reasons this is up [17:14] there is because we had we had a late [17:17] request. [17:17] >> Yes. [17:18] >> Last year and we didn't accept it [17:22] because it was so late. That's probably [17:23] the reason why. [17:24] >> So he's going to have his request when [17:27] we go through the budget process. [17:32] Okay. [17:45] So I think [17:47] this angel comes back. She's just going [17:49] to call and tell him to have his request [17:53] in when we're doing our budget like the [17:57] food cover and all the other ones and [17:59] we'll put it in the list and if he's [18:01] approved he's approved. [18:04] So [clears throat] you'll have to give [18:05] back to us. [18:06] >> How much uh lead time? I mean because I [18:09] think the issue we had last year was he [18:12] gave it at the time of budget and we [18:14] didn't know anything about the [18:16] >> budget [18:17] soon should be soon [18:22] December 31st. She had no we had no time [18:24] to [18:26] >> this was a different organization since [18:29] see [18:31] >> so [18:32] >> and so we didn't have any time to [18:34] investigate the organization [18:36] >> I'd say back the 1 of November end of [18:39] October [18:41] I mean if he's inquiring he probably [18:42] already knows what he's going to do [18:44] >> right [18:47] >> no later than December 31st [18:50] >> you know it's going to be sooner than [18:53] don't we start January or we going to do [18:56] the budget in November? November. [18:58] >> We're going to be doing the budget [18:59] offer. [19:01] November, right? So, yeah. Okay. [19:06] >> I mean, if he's already thinking about [19:07] it, then he should be able [19:10] just looking for guidelines of what he [19:12] needs to do. [19:23] I'm not sure the rest of them do [19:28] not regular [19:31] everybody has to put something in [19:34] >> correct. [19:41] » So does that need to be voted on [19:44] end of November? [19:49] If we vote on it, then everybody [19:52] >> right [19:54] policy that's all. So [snorts] [19:57] just let you know that [20:07] 4F discussion to approve a Bance [20:10] submitted by assessing agent. [20:16] was [20:19] » for what? [20:22] >> Two [20:23] >> three girls. Two girls and over [20:27] assessed lot. [20:45] So, [20:48] » so these are overp payments, right? [20:50] >> No, you're good. [20:51] >> Yes. Yes. Right. [20:53] >> Yes. [20:54] >> So, do we want to do all four or [20:56] separately? [20:58] >> All four. [21:00] >> Make a motion for [21:03] the four abatements [21:05] totaling $1,5301. [21:11] Second. We have a motion and second. [21:13] Further discussion [21:17] we're out of lungs. [21:19] >> Huh? [21:20] >> Not for those. [21:22] >> No. [21:34] All in favor? [21:35] >> Oppose. So move [21:38] 5. [21:43] » We have to sign over here. [21:45] >> Discussion for approval of resident [21:47] excise tax due to state excise tax [21:50] exempt exemptions for veterans. [22:03] That's [22:09] okay. [22:10] >> Okay. [22:11] >> Um, that's that spot. [22:17] This one is [22:20] this one. I believe Department of [22:23] Veterans Affairs [22:36] discussion for [22:39] excess tax. [22:45] » Did you come in? We don't know anything. [22:50] » Well, I I got that that letter was in [22:52] 25. He gave this in 26. Oh, this letter [22:55] explains that he got in 25 [22:59] >> and he wasn't [23:00] >> and he came in and registered his [23:02] vehicle. [23:11] [clears throat] I must have forgot that [23:13] he had that. [23:18] [snorts] [23:21] » It doesn't look like [23:25] No, I don't know that. I was trying to [23:27] see if there was a plate on here to say [23:29] that he had a transport. [23:31] >> What was the registration? [23:35] » He's got [23:39] already. [23:46] » So, this is just for disabled weapons. [23:50] No. [23:51] >> What is that? [23:53] >> It's only for the disabled. [23:55] >> It says you can to get that amount to [23:58] get that. [23:58] >> I'm providing this letter to disabled [24:00] veterans to use [24:02] >> if [24:04] applying for benefits. I I don't know [24:05] whether it is [24:07] >> you see. [24:10] Yeah, I know. [24:15] Could [24:19] be. [24:21] I don't know. Just [24:24] looking for that. [24:26] >> Yeah, he's looking to get the [24:31] copy. I have to look at this. [24:35] » He's looking to get 14376 back. [24:43] Good. [24:43] >> How's the speaker? [24:56] » This is just a This isn't signed by [24:58] anyone, [25:00] >> but that's the letter they get. They're [25:03] probably just missing the other side, [25:05] but they do get this letter. I've seen [25:07] him. Uh I'm just surprised. My com my [25:11] comment is if he had that in 25 I would [25:13] have and he got a veterans plate. I [25:16] would [25:16] >> I don't think he was from here. [25:17] >> I would have thought I just moved here. [25:20] >> I don't know [25:21] >> cuz [25:23] Arizona, [25:24] >> right? And now president has just [25:27] changed, [25:28] >> right? [25:34] I don't know. [25:36] Maybe generally they know the benefits, [25:38] but maybe not. [25:44] But that's what he's looking for is the [25:46] 143 back. [25:54] » I make a motion that you approve the [25:56] 14376 [25:58] for this bedroom disabled. [26:04] I just I think he just moved [26:09] in the system [26:13] next door. [26:17] » Yeah. [26:22] » One second. [26:43] So we have a motion to second. I'm just [26:45] The reason I was hesitating is because [26:46] it says legal residences for Bushwell [26:50] Street but is abandoned addresses. [26:53] I think you just move just [26:57] fine. [27:00] Any further discussion? [27:03] All in favor? [27:05] All so moved. [27:12] Okay. Updates and past items. 5A. Five [27:16] department volunteer request update. [27:22] » [clears throat and cough] [27:25] » We have emails [27:28] on that request. [27:33] [clears throat and cough] [27:34] So we are still going by [27:37] the [27:39] packet of 2018. [27:51] Uh [28:00] yes. [28:05] [clears throat] [28:07] >> She must be [28:12] this one here. [28:14] >> And the supply is here. [28:16] >> This is a front. Yes. [28:29] That was an email that was to Stacy, [28:32] right? [snorts] [28:33] >> Excuse me. [28:33] >> That email went to Stacy. That's what [28:36] that [28:39] uh [28:43] » right [28:45] >> also the next page came from [29:00] » here. Yes. Sorry. [29:04] What what's the date on the policy book [29:08] that [29:09] >> one during it? I have 2018. [29:12] >> Okay. [29:13] >> Signed. [29:19] Is that the most recent? It's probably [29:22] the most recent one that I have signed [29:25] for all the firefighters [29:26] [cough and clears throat] [29:27] because Nancy gave me a copy of the [29:29] newest one. [29:30] >> Yeah. [29:31] >> That I was going to have all the [29:32] firefighters signed. But we all did. [29:36] There is a most recent one that we all [29:39] had to sign in January or February, [29:41] which I can tell you right now. [29:44] >> This year, did she? [29:46] >> Yeah. 20. [29:48] >> No, she sent me before she left. The [29:51] most recent one that supposedly went to [29:53] the lawyer MMA and she went and made the [29:56] changes. I think it had changes to do [29:58] with highway and some other stuff. [30:00] >> Mhm. [30:01] >> There was changes made to it. It was [30:02] never resigned. [30:04] >> I have the most recent one that we have [30:06] right now is updated January 22nd of [30:09] 2024 [30:11] and it is signed by [30:14] Arnold, Larry, Brenda, Sharon, and Jim. [30:18] That's the most recent one. Prior to [30:20] that, the most recent one is 2018's [30:23] signed by I can tell you that too. [30:26] >> Okay. So, he's referring to the October. [30:29] He's still not even looking at the [30:31] January 22nd one, right? [30:38] » And the one Nancy emailed me was the one [30:41] that was updated on January 13th of 2026 [30:44] that had the new [30:47] holidays and your days and everything [30:50] that was approved at the previous [30:53] meeting. And I made a bunch of copy of [30:54] those, but I held off on anybody signing [30:56] it as fire department because Jim said [31:00] there was no hard copy here at the town [31:02] office. So I didn't have anybody sign. [31:05] >> So [31:07] >> no, cuz I had asked Nancy [31:09] >> for a copy of that so we could sign it [31:12] and sign the paper. We're supposed to [31:13] sign it and [31:16] >> I never did [clears throat] get it. [31:17] >> Yeah. [31:17] >> So I asked her for a copy of the [31:20] handbook and that's why she signed for [31:21] me. [31:21] >> Mhm. And in that meeting that we had the [31:23] big discussion, Stacy said that she had [31:27] one cuz of the email tool, but [31:32] >> I've never seen it. [31:35] >> I didn't have anybody sign it because [31:37] >> mine isn't signed either that she sent [31:39] me. So, an easy fix. We keep going [31:41] around and around and around the agenda. [31:45] >> Get it signed. [31:45] >> That's been the whole issue [31:48] >> since March. We've been doing this. I [31:50] have two or three of them that are [31:52] updated. No, I don't have the last one [31:55] that you had. I have [31:56] >> and I went through this and I went, [31:59] >> but it's not but it's not signed. [32:00] >> No. Is there a signed paper somewhere? I [32:03] have no idea. [32:04] >> So, how about we make a motion [32:07] >> that the new policy for the fire [32:09] department is 2026. [32:12] This is January 13th, 2026. But all the [32:16] new [32:16] >> emails me in June. Well, I'd like to [32:19] read it. [32:20] >> Well, we can [clears throat] get a copy [32:22] of it and then have it on the [32:23] >> April. I'm sorry. April [32:25] >> April 26th. [32:26] >> Well, she emailed it to me in April when [32:28] I asked about the Easter holiday. [32:31] >> Oh, okay. [32:32] >> And cuz it's that is not listed on [32:34] there, but the other holidays, your time [32:38] so that you can have 10 hours versus 8 [32:41] hours is in there, which you guys voted [32:43] on in December. [32:46] And then before that meeting, you voted [32:48] on another date change which is also in [32:51] there. [32:52] >> So I have an updated August 21st of [32:55] 2025. [32:57] >> That's not the most recent. [32:59] >> So you have, [33:01] >> but it's not signed either. So [33:03] >> I do. [33:05] Yes, I do. [33:09] >> And I don't know the difference between [33:10] the two. [33:11] >> I went back and watched the verified [33:15] updated [33:19] holidays. [33:20] >> It was holidays and it was [33:24] >> there was some 10. [33:26] >> Yeah, 10 8 to 10 and then there was [33:29] something else in there for you I think. [33:33] >> I can't remember but there was a couple [33:36] things in that December meeting and then [33:38] a meeting or so before that there was [33:40] also another change. [33:43] I know there was some changes made, but [33:45] it was never signed copy. So, we was [33:47] told not to sign till it was a signed [33:49] copy. [33:50] >> So, that's the most recent one. This [33:53] [clears throat] is what Nancy sent me [33:54] cuz she and she said in the email, this [33:56] is the one with the changes, the recent [33:59] changes, and then I went back and went [34:02] and watched the meetings. I have these [34:04] two signed by both of you. One is 2017, [34:10] not 2018. I thought I was 18, but it's [34:12] 2017, 28th day of February 2017 that you [34:17] well, not all of you, but it was signed. [34:20] And then the most recent one that I [34:22] signed for the fire department was [34:24] signed on, [34:26] you guys signed it. I have to I have [34:28] proof that I had to sign it for my [34:31] personnel file was January 23rd, 2024 is [34:36] when you guys all signed it. And then we [34:38] have the new update. the new updates [34:40] which and then I went through the [34:42] minutes and watched the meetings from [34:44] that December meeting all the way [34:46] through again and you guys never sign. [34:49] She never brought it forward to sign. I [34:51] will say that. So [34:53] >> it does need to be signed and that's the [34:54] easy fix. The cop sent me on May 15th [34:58] and I scroll through all the way to the [35:01] last page and has all you guys' [35:03] signature on it. Um, oh, [35:07] >> what's the date on that one? [35:08] >> January 13th, 2026. [35:11] >> That's the coffee I have. [35:13] >> It's got Jim, Larry, and [35:16] >> it's signed, [35:17] >> but she can't find the signed one here. [35:19] So, she says it's not a legal one. [35:27] » Well, if you do you have a complete [35:30] packet, Stacy? [35:32] >> I do. [35:33] just [35:34] >> killed off like 25 copies for everybody [35:36] to sign at the following next meeting, [35:37] but then everybody said it wasn't a good [35:39] one. So, I didn't have everybody sign it [35:41] at the fire department. [35:44] >> So, that's the January 26 26 one. [35:47] >> That's the January 13th [35:49] >> with with our signatures on it. Correct. [35:51] >> Can you send it to us? [36:03] That's scary. [36:15] » So if Stacy has a signature that's the [36:18] same date as mine [36:19] >> exactly with the updates, then that [36:21] should be the policy that we're [36:23] following. [36:28] So you want to read it before we discuss [36:33] >> why don't you read over it again [36:36] >> but I mean it's signed it's already [36:38] approved [36:38] >> exactly [36:39] >> but [36:41] [clears throat] [36:42] different [36:46] » so so the question is the the issue is [36:51] we're looking for specific a specific [36:53] policy [36:56] Then that's policy cuz we signed it. [37:00] >> That's what we right. So do we I mean [37:03] first we have to decide is this what [37:04] we're going to go by cuz we don't have what called a wet copy. We [37:10] don't have the original. So we have to [37:13] decide whether this is what we're going [37:14] to go by [37:16] and if it is [37:19] fine and then we go back to the specific [37:23] reason why we're looking looking at it. [37:25] >> So if we signed it we [37:29] signed it [37:30] >> it's accepted. So we have to go back [37:33] policy [37:33] >> except it's not an original signature. [37:36] It's copy. [37:40] If you want to be legal, it's a copy and [37:42] we cannot it wouldn't stand up. [37:45] >> So, [37:46] I'm not saying that we don't agree with [37:48] it. I'm not saying that. I'm just [37:49] saying. [37:50] >> So, if we're bringing a copy, [37:53] >> Stacy, do you have a copy right now? [38:01] » So, Stacy Stacy [38:04] should be kept moving forward so they [38:06] don't get misplaced other than maybe in [38:08] the town office. So [38:10] >> ask it. [38:11] >> So we just we just got [38:14] >> just sent it to us. So let's go over it. [38:17] Let's let's read it and in the next [38:19] meeting approve it and then and deal [38:22] with it. It's just one more just one [38:23] more meeting. [38:26] >> She hasn't signed it. [38:27] Can I also while you're talking about [38:29] that, if you guys would like a copy of [38:32] the specific [38:34] personnel policy during my that whole [38:36] ordeal, I have the signed copy right [38:38] here that you guys cannot find and that [38:41] would fall under. [38:43] >> It is signed. It is dated. [38:45] >> But that okay, but you're you're asking [38:47] for something else now. [38:48] >> No, that is actually if you look at my [38:51] request, I have that also right here. [38:54] >> Okay. So, we need to we need to stop. [38:56] We're doing this policy. [38:57] >> It actually has nothing to do with the [38:59] new policy whatsoever. [39:01] I have that right here as well as that. [39:03] If you'd like a copy, you can't change [39:06] policy after that [39:09] and have the old disciplinary action. I [39:11] even signed a new policy that I was [39:14] mandated to sign within 3 days [39:17] with the exception of any disciplinary [39:20] actions that were to fall under the old [39:23] personnel policy. it right here as well. [39:31] I mean, I'm offering it to you so you [39:34] can [39:34] >> actually they could probably get it out [39:36] of your file. [39:37] >> It should be in my file, [39:39] >> but those aren't very [39:41] >> And that should be as good as you. They [39:44] had to be signed and put there [39:47] >> as a legal document, right? 2017 17. [39:54] It actually was originally 2002 [39:58] amended in 2000 amended in February of [40:01] 2002, amended May 27th, 2008, amended [40:04] December 23rd, 2008, and then amended [40:07] February 28th of 2017. [40:10] And you guys signed it in 2017 on [40:13] February 28th. [40:17] And nothing got changed until after the [40:20] fact. [40:23] I mean, this is what [40:31] So, this letter [40:33] is stating [40:37] it doesn't have the right date on this. [40:40] It has 2018 and that's 2017. [40:44] >> Well, we signed it in 2000. I was made [40:47] to sign it in 2018 as a firefighter [40:50] because this is a term against personnel [40:52] policy. We had our own in-house that was [40:56] taken out of it was just a blip taken [40:58] out of you guys's personnel policy for [41:00] us to sign and then we were made to sign [41:03] this actual personnel policy in 2018 and [41:05] it has my signature on it with the date [41:09] of 2018. [41:11] So if that's the one [41:16] >> this is referring to and you're saying [41:18] that the 2026 is not approved yet, you [41:23] have to go by that one. [41:28] It doesn't this letter doesn't say the [41:32] 2006 one. Uh 2026. [41:36] >> Oh, okay. [41:37] >> And you haven't signed a 2026 one [41:39] anyway. I haven't seen nobody [41:44] brought back to you. [41:48] [clears throat and cough] [41:50] » And I also have a letter of um that the [41:55] board denied a letter of appeals, which [41:58] the board cannot legally, now that I [42:01] found that out, deny a letter of [42:03] appeals. It is supposed to go to the [42:06] appeals board and it never made it to [42:07] the appeals board. And it has a [42:09] chairman, not you, previous chairman's [42:12] signature on it sent back to me with [42:15] your check with my check for $40. That [42:18] was never cash because [42:21] the appeals board wasn't allowed to [42:22] accept my appeals because they're [42:25] apparently which is also changed in the [42:27] updated personnel policy that [42:31] the board the appeals board is no longer [42:34] allowed to appeal a decision made by the [42:36] select board which that was not the case [42:39] in the personnel policy that I signed in [42:42] 2018. [42:55] No one cares what that means. [42:57] >> I have this. [42:58] >> Can I Can I look at the blue one? [43:01] >> Your blue forward that letter. [43:03] >> Yes. [43:04] >> My my This is the application of appeal [43:08] >> with my check in it. [43:10] >> Yes. [43:13] Keep it blue so I don't lose it in [43:26] the denial letters after that in a [43:29] different letter. [43:32] >> You have that letter? [43:33] >> I do. [43:33] >> And who's that signed by? [43:35] >> Arnold. [43:37] >> And only his signature. [43:39] Can you make copies for us with all [43:42] that? [43:42] >> I can [43:46] just put it all together and then let [43:49] you [43:54] » This is my denial of appeal request from [43:58] you guys [43:59] >> or [44:01] better yet, you can stop into the [44:03] office. I'm not exactly sure, but we can [44:06] pull your personnel file. [44:10] Everything's right there. Every [44:11] >> Yeah, it's right there. [44:14] I mean, we'll get everything. I'm sorry. [44:19] >> Hey, this has been a long time. [44:20] >> You have no idea how hard I've worked. [44:24] >> Breathe. Breathe. [44:29] So, I think we need the 18 policy, too. [44:32] That [44:34] >> Who knows if that's announced. [44:36] >> So, we need [44:38] Yeah, it should be in a personal file. [44:41] It should be, but [44:42] >> it is because that was part of what was [44:45] sent back to me during my deny. [44:48] >> So, [44:50] the whole policy or just that section? [44:52] >> Just the part where it said that I [44:54] signed it in 2018. So, I was know after [44:57] my executive session, I said that it was [45:00] not allowed. Mhm. [45:02] >> I was not given no instructions on how [45:05] to appeal anything. I had to find it out [45:08] myself. There was supposed to be a way [45:11] to appeal it and I didn't know that. So, [45:14] it took so long and then that was part [45:17] of why I couldn't [45:19] I I don't know. It's just it's a it's a [45:22] mess. [45:23] >> So, I think what happened was [45:27] >> a lot of stuff has changed how things [45:30] were done. [45:32] I'm going to ask question. Do do you [45:35] have a copy of her [45:39] this funny action? [45:42] >> I don't [45:43] file here Tammy had put in their file. [45:47] >> Okay. The only thing I have is the [45:50] simple personnel policy that Tammy had [45:54] me copy off and had everybody sign one [45:56] night at a meeting [45:59] >> which was [46:00] >> and I didn't know anything about [46:01] appeals. Apparently you guys didn't know [46:03] anything about the appeal application [46:05] either. So [46:06] >> right I remember I remember the [46:09] situation. [46:11] >> So give us give us one more meeting. [46:15] >> I would like the 18th policy though. [46:17] Good [46:18] >> cuz we got to refer to that. [46:21] >> Now when that her personnel file is [46:25] opened here, can she be present so [46:28] something doesn't come up much missing? [46:30] >> Yes, she can. She can ask she can ask [46:32] anytime to look at her file. [46:34] >> She That's what I'm asking. [46:35] >> With a reasonable amount of time, she [46:37] should be able to send certified and [46:39] emailed and then check. That's standard [46:42] H. This is what she said. I don't know. [46:44] >> No, I know. [46:46] That's the It was [46:49] 2018, I guess, apparently. But either [46:51] way, in here, it's [46:54] the one you're looking at right there. [46:57] >> 2018. That's the one you guys are [46:58] looking at. But the one I just 2017, cuz [47:01] when I came, I couldn't get a copy of [47:03] any of this. [47:04] >> Okay. So, we need this. I'll have the [47:08] whole copy. [47:09] >> Every [47:11] Yeah, this here. [47:13] I don't want to lose this stuff to you. [47:15] You've done a lot of work. Okay. All [47:18] right. [47:20] So, don't lose that. [47:22] >> No, I'm giving it back to you. Okay. [47:25] >> That's why I told you to keep it in the [47:27] blue. Thank you. [47:30] So, we're going to table this and look [47:32] at everything up to the next meeting. [47:34] >> Yes. [47:39] » Okay. [47:42] >> Yeah. [47:44] Okay. [48:07] So 5B, [48:10] resident B on account 299. [48:16] » I'd like to table that so I have more [48:18] time to read this. [48:20] >> Good. No problem. [48:30] resident meeting on account 1441. [48:34] >> That's that's his and I don't know where [48:38] we're at with that. [48:40] >> I'm sorry, Dad. I'd like to table that [48:42] if we could yours cuz [48:47] [snorts] [48:48] >> we were not given the information until [48:50] right before meeting [48:52] >> on yours. I don't know. [48:54] I'd rather make a a good decision on it. [48:58] >> Speak up. [48:59] >> I'd rather make a better decision on [49:00] yours on on some of these accounts [49:04] because we just got the information on [49:06] it and so I haven't had time to review [49:10] it [49:13] >> on your you're here for a property [49:15] account, right? Do you own I don't own [49:17] that anymore. [49:18] >> Okay. [49:24] Uh 5D [49:27] change account 74. [49:30] >> Well, on the Snapchat. [49:32] Oh, [clears throat] you're still on [49:33] Snapchat. [49:35] >> Oh, okay. I thought you [49:39] >> Okay, I get rid of that. [49:40] >> Okay. [49:58] So, table table. [50:00] >> Yeah. [50:02] >> One more word on the pump. [50:04] >> Yes, the electrical is all done. We were [50:07] all ready to take the pump down and put [50:09] it in and we all got called to work. I [50:11] couldn't do it and I have not had time [50:13] to take it down, but it's ready to go [50:15] down and plug me in. I guess my question [50:17] is, do you guys want us to put it in for [50:20] a month or just try it, take it out, and [50:23] be ready for next year? I just need to [50:26] know what you guys want. [50:27] >> See if it works. [50:28] >> Well, we're going to do that regardless. [50:30] But I just needed to know whether you [50:31] wanted it to go all the way out in the [50:32] middle of the pump for a month or [50:34] >> Yes. Because And the reason I say it is [50:37] because we've had a lot of people asking [50:39] about your pump. I'll do what I'll do [50:42] and to to not put it out there. They're [50:45] going to continue to ask for [50:48] okay and we have taken care of this [50:52] weekend [50:53] come up for town meeting. [laughter] So [50:57] >> we're already pay right so just a little [51:00] more. [51:00] >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. We probably won't get [51:02] a lot more. [51:08] » Okay. Thank you for for doing the work [51:10] on anyone. [51:13] >> Uh P schedule [clears throat] [51:17] that [51:18] >> table. [51:20] >> We can talks up. [51:21] >> Yep. [51:22] >> Okay. [51:26] We have questions. [51:28] >> Veteran flags. [51:36] Do you know anything about it? Are you [51:37] really put them up or tax? You have to [51:40] write you have to apply for it. [51:43] >> Oh, you [51:45] have to apply [51:46] >> the residence page. [51:48] >> The res [51:53] nothing much. [51:54] >> I did get water. [51:56] >> Awesome. [51:57] >> Um and we have been given that [52:01] awesome. Thank you. [52:07] So the residents [52:09] >> probably that information for me to go [52:11] on the web page. [52:13] >> Yeah. [52:14] >> About that. [52:15] >> Yeah. [52:19] » Does they have to apply? [52:21] >> No. [52:22] >> Each person has [52:24] >> Yeah. It's like if I want to put up like [52:27] a flag for my father, my brother and my [52:30] son, then I would I I buy these flags. [52:35] >> And I know there's there was discussion [52:38] about that had [52:42] about the person having to pay for it. [52:43] >> Yeah. The person. [52:45] >> Yeah. [52:47] So, [52:49] some of you been asking me is there a [52:51] policy of the height on that fire? [52:58] » I don't know. Is [53:00] >> anybody ever hear that? [53:01] >> Is Madison Electric putting them up or [53:04] >> I haven't heard. I only hear what I hear [53:06] here. I don't know. I know the the [53:10] American flags are supposed to be [53:11] underneath the light and the only thing [53:14] I've ever done is just put them back [53:16] where they were [53:18] prior to me coming here. So, [53:26] bathroom clean up ADA remodel. [53:32] I'm pretty sure it will not [53:34] [clears throat] mist [53:37] uh security cameras. [53:40] >> I didn't hear anything. [53:43] Good. Other business items from the [53:45] board [53:53] administrator here [53:56] department [53:57] you're up [53:59] till next meeting. [laughter] [54:06] » [laughter] [54:06] >> Um, [clears throat] we we've got another [54:09] road done that we had to put collision [54:11] on. And last week we had trouble with [54:14] the sewer the sewer main up on 16. [54:19] So we had to dig it up. It was the [54:22] landowner had his had dug it up and it [54:25] was nothing on his end. So we dug it up [54:26] and had Vortex come. They sucked a bunch [54:29] of broken pieces of green pipe out and [54:34] went as far as it could go. [54:37] So, we ended up digging it up again [54:39] today cuz I had to go further to 16 and [54:43] I had to get the opening permits and [54:45] stuff. We dug it up and what it was [54:49] where they put the water line in [54:52] the compaction wasn't [54:54] quite good enough probably and one pipe [54:56] settled. So the other pipe was halfway [54:58] of that and that's why they couldn't get [55:00] the camera and stuff through and we dug [55:03] it up and compacted and got so both same [55:08] elevation and stone around it and [55:11] run a camera through it today. Went all [55:13] the way to the main. So [snorts] we put [55:15] over 600 gallons of water down the water [55:17] tank and nothing backed up. So it's [55:20] working [55:21] and [55:23] we had a accident garage. [55:26] [clears throat] [55:27] The guys was working on the trucks [55:28] putting the uh fluid film on them and [55:32] they had the bodies up about 4 ft just [55:35] enough so they could get in there and [55:36] they put the safety stand down. When [55:39] they got back in the truck, he forgot to [55:41] put the body down and run the headboard [55:43] into the front of the garage. So, I got [55:46] a guy that's coming tomorrow morning [55:48] give us estimate on what it cost to get [55:51] the bit the bricks blocks repaired. [55:56] Um, [55:58] other than that, we've been doing [56:00] surface gravel. So, we got one more road [56:04] that I got to put a weak line in and [56:06] then I can start putting the surface [56:08] gravel on the roads. And [56:11] when we can when the screen will do when [56:13] it's sand. [56:18] » Did we get any report on that yet on the [56:22] garage? So, did we get any report on [56:24] that yet? [56:24] >> He's he's filled it up. So, [56:28] >> Angel has it. [56:30] >> No, I haven't got it down there yet. I [56:31] come down today. [56:32] >> You'll wait till you get the estimate. [56:34] >> Yeah. Yes. [56:37] >> Okay. [56:41] » Any questions? [56:46] » Thank you. Fire chief. [56:48] >> Yeah. We also had an incident back here [56:50] a week or so ago. Um, one of my [56:53] firefighters were pulling out of the [56:54] fire station and as they were going out [56:56] through the door, one of the side doors [56:59] came open and hooked onto the side rail [57:02] of the garage door and kind of crumpled [57:05] the door on the brand new fire truck. [57:09] Um, as we speak, it has been sent down [57:12] to four guys, and they gave us a quote [57:15] of $2,384 [57:17] plus shipping uh to rebuild us a new one [57:21] with all new paint scheme, reflective, [57:23] and new hinge. As far as I know, I don't [57:26] believe Angela has made out a insurance [57:29] claim on that as well. Uh, so I had the [57:32] firefighter fill out an incident report [57:34] everything that happened on piece paper [57:37] send my briefcase at the house, but it [57:39] is made out. I just haven't brought it [57:40] down to Angela as well. Um, I think we [57:44] looked on our um insurance through MMA. [57:48] I think the deductible is $1,000. So, [57:52] pretty much it's the only place I can [57:54] get a door made for that fire truck. So, [57:56] it's still functionable. Um PD cuor came [57:59] up that next morning [clears throat] [58:01] straighten out the rail. Uh they said [58:03] they'll come up and put a new rail on. [58:05] Uh I haven't seen that happen yet, but [58:07] they did straighten it out. So the [58:09] firefighter said actually the door [58:11] actually works better than it did before [58:13] after they used straightening to begin. [58:15] So uh yeah, I'm still waiting on that. [58:18] Um [58:20] Tyler from Fine Line gave me a quote to [58:24] uh seal and redo the back of the fire [58:27] station where we had a [58:31] some where somebody took a dump and [58:33] created a pothole and where the uh [58:35] snowblower had sat and leaked oil, they [58:37] had sealed it. Uh still pretty tacky. [58:40] They said they're going to do try a [58:41] different technique to re try to reseal [58:43] that. Paid no charge. Uh, I told him to [58:46] give me an estimate on sealing the whole [58:48] doyad. And he gave me in sections and [58:51] pretty much [58:53] from the back of the garage, [58:56] the fire station up through where the [58:59] old station sat to midway part of the [59:02] doors was um $2,210 [59:06] to do that. And the next section was the [59:09] very front over towards the generator [59:11] was 2,600. [59:13] and to finish out the whole section on [59:15] the back part was another 1830. And my [59:19] concern was to do the side where the old [59:22] fire station sat because what the gouges [59:25] were from the u sidewalk uh the snowb [59:30] blower where it gouged the hot top. I [59:33] wanted to get that sealed before this [59:35] winter and that was 22 $2,200 to get [59:41] that done. [59:43] like sitting around trying to be for the [59:44] back part of it where they had been [59:46] there and done that anyway and it really [59:48] didn't [59:50] help. So, [59:54] and I also tried to have uh Angela log [59:58] into the security system at the NO at [1:00:02] the NO station [1:00:04] cuz I had called and talked to Nancy and [1:00:07] she said she left a lot of all the [1:00:09] passwords and stuff on a protective [1:00:10] sheet and a folder and stuff and I [1:00:14] watched Amber try three times and [1:00:15] wouldn't let her in. So, [1:00:18] we tried every scenario we could [1:00:19] possibly think of. So, I think I got to [1:00:21] get a hold of [1:00:23] uh Kronics and see about logging in and [1:00:27] try to get a whole different username [1:00:29] and password [1:00:31] cuz we was trying to figure out who went [1:00:32] and took a squad out back to see who it [1:00:36] was. But, and I contacted the water [1:00:38] district. They got a camera pointing [1:00:40] right at it. I think they security's [1:00:42] down. [1:00:43] >> Yep. [1:00:44] >> All that security's there. none of this [1:00:45] [clears throat] work, [1:00:47] >> you know, like we we wouldn't know if I [1:00:49] work, you know? [1:00:50] >> Yeah. I was going to have more security [1:00:51] cameras put in here at cell station and [1:00:54] between uh Mark and Amanda being on [1:00:57] vacation at computer improvements cuz uh [1:01:01] Kronics want to know what make um [1:01:04] cameras we had and it took me quite a [1:01:06] while to get that figured out, but we [1:01:08] know what they are. So, we're going to [1:01:09] try to budget for next year's budget to [1:01:14] have more security cameras put in. So, [1:01:21] technology, I mean, I don't know how how [1:01:23] we're going to keep things. It seems [1:01:24] like every time something happens, [1:01:26] security cameras are down. This is not [1:01:28] somebody can't log in. So, I don't [1:01:32] >> Mhm. That's the way it works. [1:01:33] >> Yep. [1:01:35] Any [1:01:40] questions? [1:01:42] >> Thank you. [1:01:47] EMA town office. [1:01:51] Uh, number eight. [1:01:54] Uh, you heard Brenda say that she did [1:01:57] get water. [1:01:58] >> Mama. [1:01:58] >> Okay. [1:02:00] >> And it did. [1:02:02] I don't know who she looked at. Will you [1:02:06] comment here too earlier in the week? I [1:02:08] guess somebody's well dry or [1:02:11] [clears throat] [1:02:15] » good. [1:02:16] >> And I know we've been filling up totes [1:02:18] or [1:02:20] we're starting to give out more drinking [1:02:22] water now that people wells [1:02:24] [clears throat] are really dry like no [1:02:27] water. So [1:02:33] [snorts] [1:02:34] >> I for public [1:02:41] question. [1:02:41] >> Yes. [1:02:42] >> Um the four-wheeler um trails or roads. [1:02:46] Is there a set [1:02:48] streets that are accessible to four [1:02:51] wheelers? [1:02:52] >> I'm sorry. I I say it again. The roads [1:02:56] that were approved for four-wheelers, [1:02:59] do you know what they were? Are the [1:03:01] names of the roads that four-wheelers [1:03:03] can run on between the trails? [1:03:06] >> You got we approved three, right? [1:03:09] >> FI Pawn Road, Hilltop, [1:03:12] and [clears throat] Purple, I believe it [1:03:14] was. [1:03:15] >> Okay. [1:03:15] >> Yeah. [1:03:16] >> Doesn't mean that that's all they're [1:03:18] running on because they're running on [1:03:20] all of them. [1:03:21] >> 234. [1:03:23] We only approved railroad [1:03:25] >> and they were supposed to come back and [1:03:29] ask for more [1:03:31] >> as they knew what they wanted to do and [1:03:33] they never come back. [1:03:34] >> It just seems to be a free-for-all [1:03:36] everywhere you go. [1:03:39] >> Nobody's stopping them because nobody [1:03:41] knows [1:03:42] >> what's what. [1:03:43] >> Well, somebody had had me ask and that's [1:03:47] all I know. Yeah. Yeah. [1:03:50] >> You can put the cameras up next to [1:03:51] Herbage, but they can't do anything [1:03:53] else. So, [1:03:54] >> they get they leave it off to the [1:03:56] cameras instead of the personnel. So, [1:03:58] >> yeah, I see it on camera. I don't care. [1:04:00] >> It's up. It's And it is up to the ECD [1:04:03] club to come and [1:04:04] >> ask which roads the town would let them [1:04:08] have [1:04:10] >> cuz within within a th000 ft, right, on [1:04:13] the trail [1:04:13] >> supposedly. [1:04:17] >> they can go on they can go and go [1:04:19] anywhere [1:04:24] » it's 1,000 ft from one trail entry to [1:04:26] another trail entry right [1:04:31] » lose a lot [1:04:40] » anything else [1:04:44] Do you hear Jackson legal on who owns [1:04:46] the property once the lean expires [1:04:49] the town or the person you're sitting [1:04:50] on? [1:04:52] >> What lean? No one on that trailer. [1:04:59] [clears throat] [1:05:00] >> You ain't dead yet? [1:05:02] >> Nope. [1:05:03] >> You ain't going to either. [1:05:06] >> I don't know. I don't control the [1:05:07] lawyers. [1:05:09] >> Garden state. You're going to own it. [1:05:12] then we'll own it. [1:05:13] >> I follow through. [1:05:15] >> If that's what if that's what the legal [1:05:17] precedent is, then that's what it is. I [1:05:19] mean, we'll go by what the what the law [1:05:22] says. So, [1:05:22] >> now we have to go by what the state [1:05:24] says, too. [1:05:26] >> Well, that's what I said. [1:05:28] >> That was supposed to expire 18 months [1:05:30] after the first lean was put on. [1:05:33] Is that a lot? [1:05:41] » As far as I know, we're still waiting on [1:05:42] volume. [1:05:43] >> Huh? [1:05:44] >> As far as I know, we're still waiting on [1:05:45] a lawyer. [1:05:46] >> Yeah. So, I don't know when you'll get [1:05:48] it. [1:05:49] >> It will be brought up in a meeting. [1:05:51] >> Huh? [1:05:51] >> It will be brought up in a meeting. Yes. [1:05:57] » And I wish people would speak up cuz I [1:05:59] can't hear. [1:06:03] Well, I have a hearing problem, too. And [1:06:05] so when when when I speak, as far as I'm [1:06:08] concerned, I'm yelling right now. [1:06:11] >> No, you're speaking just right. [1:06:12] >> Okay. So So as far as I'm concerned, I'm [1:06:14] yelling. You know how it works. But [1:06:16] because because I have a problem with [1:06:18] one ear, I think I'm yelling all the [1:06:20] time. So I'm talking like this because [1:06:22] as far as I'm concerned, I'm talking [1:06:24] normal. [1:06:25] >> So I mean, she's she's complained about [1:06:27] it, too. I'm trying. [1:06:30] >> Yeah. I mean, that's obvious too, not [1:06:33] [clears throat] just you. [1:06:34] >> No, [1:06:36] I have to keep asking them what to say. [1:06:41] » There's old people in here. [1:06:44] >> Yeah, there's old people in here. [1:06:47] >> That's right. [1:06:49] >> I'm probably not your age, but I don't [1:06:52] think you are. You're both going. [1:06:56] [laughter] [1:06:58] I will. Good Lord willing. I will. [1:07:02] >> Anyway, anything else from the [1:07:04] >> Yes, sir. to the whole board. [1:07:08] >> Your [1:07:10] town logo. [1:07:13] Uh [1:07:15] that ends September 11th [1:07:18] to be submitted. [1:07:20] >> Yes. [1:07:22] >> And it's Friday. [1:07:23] >> Yep. [1:07:25] have package coming hopefully be [1:07:27] delivered Thursday or Friday for sure [1:07:31] for that [1:07:33] in your town office ain't open no more [1:07:36] >> I'd like to know what the board would [1:07:38] like to do relating there too [1:07:44] » Oh yeah because you guys closed the [1:07:45] Fridays to the public but they're still [1:07:47] open they still [1:07:52] » was being delivered to him I [1:07:54] Yes. Delivered to me, but it has to be [1:07:57] submitted here. Correct. [1:07:59] >> Well, was I don't know. Was it was it [1:08:01] specifically said it had to be submitted [1:08:03] here? I don't know. [1:08:04] >> Yes. 11. The 11th. [1:08:07] >> So maybe we should move that to Monday. [1:08:11] >> Sure. [1:08:12] >> Since the office is now closed. [1:08:14] >> 12 9:14. [1:08:18] Whatever the Monday is. [1:08:20] >> Yes. [1:08:22] 9:14. [1:08:25] » Does that need a vote? [1:08:28] >> Can I make that motion? [1:08:30] >> Okay. And I second. [1:08:33] >> Have a motion by a second. Any further [1:08:35] discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? [1:08:40] All those. So moved. 4 Z. [1:08:44] >> Thank you. [1:08:47] » I don't think there's something that [1:08:48] off. [1:08:53] number [1:08:55] >> nine. [1:08:57] The final number is [1:09:00] >> nine. [1:09:05] A motion to return. [1:09:09] >> Second. [1:09:09] >> Have a motion and second. All in favor? [1:09:14] All opposed. So move close. Thank you [1:09:17] all.