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You know what?

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Oh, the times if we could

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call this meeting order. Special town

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council hearing meeting. It's Tuesday,

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June 30th, 2026, and it is 6 p.m. Let's

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start with the pledge.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all.

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Anybody want to do prayer?

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Our

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dear Lord, we thank thee for

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the

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blessings that we have here as a town

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and the community that we have created,

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the support that we show to each other.

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We

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ask you to please bless that this town

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will receive rain and that we will

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continue to grow together and come

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together to support our neighbors and

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show our love for one another.

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We ask you please bless our water people

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with wisdom and guidance that they may

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make the most prudent choices for our

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town so that we may prosper and and

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thrive in the coming years and our

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children and our children's children may

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be able to also enjoy the beauty of our

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little community that we have curated

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with thy help.

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We say these things in Jesus Christ.

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Amen.

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>> Thank you.

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>> All right. Roll call.

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>> Scott here.

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>> Mike Ferrar here.

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>> Love here.

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>> Richard here.

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>> Kevin will be here, but he'll be a

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little late. Any conflict of interest?

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>> No.

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>> Nope. Me neither.

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>> Okay. Mayor's town update reports,

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recommendation, announcements. I'm going

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to use this uh time to talk about the

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water. You're going to have to excuse my

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voice. The no sleeping caught up on me.

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Body got weak and I got sick. So, I

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never get sick, but it happens every now

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and then. So, okay, let me tell you

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what's going on with the water. I'm not

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going to cover too much of what I

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covered in my last meeting.

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I don't want to be redundant, waste

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everybody's time. It was recorded. You

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can go watch it.

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We had talked about drilling a new well

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um next to the old one. We were able to

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avoid doing that. Um, we were able to

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blast the merit well, uh, get down

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deeper, run our pipes, which casings

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deeper, and get towards the bottom and

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get it working again. It's not

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performing as it was, but it is working

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again.

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Um, when we first hooked it up, we were

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struggling. As you guys know, I told you

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I had them turn the pivots back on so we

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could test. Um, we ran them for three or

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four days and we couldn't get the merit

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water and the merit level, I'm sorry,

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water the water level and the merit well

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to go up to our pump. It was all the way

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down. So, I called the the farmer and

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asked him to shut the pivot off and they

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did about it was around 11 or 12. And by

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the late afternoon, early evening, our

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water levels have come way up. So, we

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definitely know uh the pivot is creating havoc on our two

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wells. Now, with that being said, it's

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not just that. I think if this would

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have been three or four years ago, it

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might not have been an issue. My theory,

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I mean, we are in a drought. We're in a

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state of emergency in the entire state.

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We haven't had any rain. Um, we have

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good aquafer studies from old ones. We

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have well studies. We have all this

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stuff that says this shouldn't happen,

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but they're all before the drought.

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They're all over three years old. So, I

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do think, you know, that's the first

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thing they all say, "Well, according to

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our data, this shouldn't be happening."

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Well, I get it, but it is. And I just

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think the date is old. We haven't The

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three years of drought is catching up.

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So, um, we're stabilized right now.

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After we did that with the merit well,

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the Gregor well was barely we had about

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2 feet and if I turned it up too much,

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it would make a vortex. Obviously, we

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can't see this. Well, we did actually

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put the camera down, but you can't when

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it's running, you can't get the camera

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too close, but it created a vortex and

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would suck some air. So, I had to really

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play with the with the uh speed of pump,

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the motor to get a balance there. And we

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weren't putting out enough water. Once

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we got the merit well up and running, we

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were not putting out enough water to

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supply the town. So, I asked you guys to

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conserve water. We filled up the tanks

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all the way as full as we could get them

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and we just turned that well on. It was

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producing about

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almost 100

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gallons per minute. We need about 250 to

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keep the town alive. Um, so I asked you

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guys to conserve. We ran the merit well.

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was a very hard decision. Um, these are

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all decisions that I have to make. Um, I

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don't have nobody I get to call. I don't

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have a boss that I get to call and ask

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what to do. I get lots of advice from a

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lot of people, a lot of people in the

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state, but nobody will tell you what to

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do. They just give you some facts and I

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have to make these decisions. So, very

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hard decision. I decided to shut down

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the Gregor some well. Um, and we pulled

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everything out and we blasted that one

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and got extended the pipe got all the

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way down to the bottom super deep and it

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thank God it worked [clears throat] and

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we got more water out of that one.

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>> Why scam with it?

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>> Yeah. Scary.

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Um, so that was a a positive. That was

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the only positive through all this. It

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was very exciting. We did that all in

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one day. Don't ask me how we got it

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done. We were out there super late. had

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the well running by nightfall and you

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guys were able to start using water

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again.

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Sorry, ahead of time. So, that's where

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we're at now. We've been stabled. We're

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putting out enough water. I think we're

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okay. We haven't without the pivot

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running. Um I'm working with the farmer

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and the property owners and all that

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about the pivot. The state I've been in

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solid state meetings. Um unfortunately,

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there isn't a lot of um protection from

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the legislature and the state for

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municipal water. um you know goes like I

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kind of told you guys goes by water

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gates and um stuff like that. So um I

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know a lot of people I I get some

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suggestions and I and I appreciate the

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suggestions stuff like we'll just turn

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the pivots off

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if it was that easy. I promise you I

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would do it. Just do this. Just do that.

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There's a lot of there's so much going

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on that that you guys cannot possibly

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understand all the laws and the rules

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and all that. So basically

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what's going on is I told you guys the

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river I told you guys I said it's a

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river and I'm going to explain that a

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little more that we're in our aquifer

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and when I talk about the aquifer the

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river is an aquifer any an aquifer is

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just a source of water down there in the

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rocks that's it so any source of water

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doesn't matter where it comes from that

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is the aquifer but what to make

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everybody understand it I keep talking

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about the the aquifer south of the

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cinder hill right here south of uh

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Richard Cinder Hill right here. And I

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think that's the according to all the

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information I have, that's like a big

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aquifer. Then I told you guys we're on a

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we're drilled into a river that goes out

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to the Virgin River and it's a lava

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tube. Now it's not I don't and I need to

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explain this and I didn't explain last

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time. It's not like this like you think

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when I said river fast blowing river

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inside of the river is what they call

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basalt and basalt is uh holds the water

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and it's like a big sponge. Picture a

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big sponge inside of this lava tube. So

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it's not fast. So, if you can picture a

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sponge as it's, you know, you tilt it a

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little bit, of course, the water is

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going to run in the sponge, but it's

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going to be very, very slow. So, if you

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come to this end of the sponge and put a

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straw on and suck all the water out,

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this is what your recharge rate is. It's

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how fast you're going to recharge. So, I

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may suck all the water right here, the

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sponge goes dry, but it's still wet up

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here, but it's not going to instantly

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flow into there. So, you have to wait

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and let it recharge. And that's really

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what the recharge rate of the aquifer

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has gone down to where it's not keeping

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up like it did before due to the

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drought, I believe. So, um, the again,

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the farmer did nothing wrong. He got a

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permit. That's the state. That's what

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the state the state issued. Everything's

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legit. There's nothing wrong. He's being

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very cooperative with us. We're we're

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talking. We're working. Um, he's done

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nothing wrong. Um, I fault

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the state. I mean, if I got to blame

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someone, ultimately it's my response to

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keep you guys a water, but in my

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opinion, the reason is the state. But

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I'm not going to fight the state. I'm

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sure other towns and other cities deal

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with the same thing. Um, so that's

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what's going on. The long-term plan, the

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long-term solution is I don't remember

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if I said this last meeting and I

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haven't said a lot. I I have been

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awarded

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couple when this all started when we

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when I got the pipeline money, I was

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worried the 3.2 million might not be

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enough and I knew that we would need

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more wells and aquafers or a different

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aquifer. So, we had went to Celeste

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Malloy. I went to I I spoke to Celeste

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Malloy and she had this big bill that

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she was doing and she said um why don't

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we get you in on this for the money? How

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much do you think you would need to

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cover this? And I said well a million and a half might cover but 2

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million would get us out of trouble.

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Long story short, she put us in the

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bill. We were everything was going

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great. New president came. Bill went

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away. Had to redo a whole new bill.

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Redid the whole new bill got awarded.

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We've been awarded $2 million. Now,

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there's some red tape to go through with

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that, but we we know for sure we're

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getting $2 million. There is a price

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match, what they call price match. We

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have to come up with $400,000. There's

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some

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waiverss you can do for that, and that's

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what I'm doing. I'm working with the

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state. We're in a state of emergency.

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So, I'm working on that. The plan with

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that $2 million is that [clears throat]

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accompanied with the USGS report that

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we've been waiting on forever that has

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now been promised. Now, that we're in a

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state of emergency. I should mention

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that I declared a state of emergency for

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the town. you can't get any assistance

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from the state unless you declare a

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state of emergency. So, as the the mayor

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has the authority to do that, I declare

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a state of emergency. Um, so being

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[clears throat] in a state of emergency,

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we should have the aquifer study back

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within a month. Um, we will use the

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aquifer uh study report and the $2

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million and we will determine where

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there is likely to be water. This is

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based on when we're drilling. Let me

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show you this. When we're drilling, I

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know I'm jumping all around, guys. I'm

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sick and I'm I'm tired. When we're

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drilling, as we're drilling, this is 320

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ft. This is 310 ft, 3290. We take out

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we, there's obviously a driller there. I

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don't drill. I'm watching and probably

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in their way, but I'm out there all day

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long and learning. And when they're

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drilling, they're taking dirt out at

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different levels. And you study this

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dirt and you know what the dirt is. This

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goes into a well log and these samples

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go to the state. The state does that for

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every well, town, private, any well that

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someone drills and they collect all that

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data. They utilize this data for USGS

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studies and stuff like this to try to

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picture paint a picture of how the

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dirt's working and where there's going

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to be water because the clay doesn't

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absorb water. So there's no water in the

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clay. So if we have clay, there's no

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water in it. You need to find certain

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soils and the basalt is where the water

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will be. So that's the information

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they'll have. We'll take that

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information and we should be able to

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determine some areas throughout town

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here close to Apple Valley proper that

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has that kind of material. They'll get

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us in an area. They can't tell you drill

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right there. They're not going to do

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that. Unfortunately, they're not.

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There's programs we'll put that the

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engineers have. We'll put that

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information along with the old aquifer

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study and all kinds of information and

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AI will go through there and give us

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positions where we think there's water.

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Then, I know this is going to sound

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corny and crazy. Maybe some of you it

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doesn't, but you get a Witcher. And uh

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I've never been a believer, but here

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recently I've been watching some guys

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with a Witcher. And I had two different

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guys come out at two different times,

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didn't talk to each other, and both

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picked out two places where there'd be

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water. So I said, "That's pretty crazy."

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So I I'm starting to believe it. You get

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a Witcher. There's another method, but

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witching actually is very is more

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successful, has a better success rate.

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And uh there's a guy known around this

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area um that's supposedly the best and

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I've talked to him before and he's

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always offered to help. So we will witch

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it. Now the problem with witching is

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depending on the Witcher, you might just

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find a little bit of water, you might

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find a lot. Some guys claim they can

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tell you that. I don't know. We'll witch

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it. We'll find the best location for

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water and we'll drill for water. Now the

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complications that come with that.

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First, we got to find the water. I've

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just told you about all that doesn't

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guarantee the which you're saying it's

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right here. None of this is a guarantee.

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Probably will hit water. Then we got to

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get enough water. It has to be

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performing well. Um you know get 10 20

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gallons a minute. That don't help us

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much. Um I would think anything under I

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mean if we get 50 we'll run it. If we

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get under 50 we're not even going to

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waste our we're going to drill somewhere

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else. Maybe at 50 we'll see. It helps.

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Um then after we find the water then we

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got to test it. Make sure it doesn't

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have radium and it meets all the state

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requirements and all this stuff. It's

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good water. Then we got to put all the

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well stuff in and do all that. Okay.

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Then we're going to with we're going to

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do a couple of these. I want to get I'd

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like to get two or three wells. I'd like

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to get three 400 gallons a minute on a

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different aquifer. Um that gives us some

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redundancy and stop depending on this

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aquifer here. Um then with the rest of

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the money, we'll lead a pipeline from

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those wells up to the tank or tie into

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the pipe somewhere else. We'll have to

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do engineering for that and see what we

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can there's pressures involved and all

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kinds of stuff and we'll get water up to

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the million-gallon tank the new million

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gallon tank that should start

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construction in August.

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But for now we can talk about those two

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dates. We get water up to the tanks. So

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that will give us some redundancy. Um

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maybe this aquaer will hold out forever,

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maybe it won't. Nobody knows. I mean

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honestly it could shut off tomorrow even

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though we're not running the pivots and

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everything looks good right now.

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Tomorrow it could dry up. And and I've

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known this this is nothing new. I mean

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this always any town is dependent on you

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know a couple wells that can happen. Um

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but we didn't have the money to drill

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new wells and everything's been good

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until now it hasn't. So we were very

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close. We we almost we should have had

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the celeste money on our own at the end

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of the year. Now we're kind of

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expediting everything. So uh there's

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always silver lining silver lining on

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the cloud or the silver lining is this

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happens but it triggers a lot of other

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stuff to happen. So, that will be the

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long-term fix for our water

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is finding other aquifers, drilling into

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them, and piping the water up to million

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gallon tanks. So, we'll have backups.

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Um, if the drought continues, they can

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all dry up. I I I'm not God. I I know

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people want to feel warm and cozy, and I

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can give you my opinions, and I can tell

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you guys, I'm looking at the level of

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the water and what I feel good about

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based on everything I've known, I know,

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I've learned. But again, I'm not God.

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Um, nobody even there's nobody

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in the world that can tell you exactly

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what's going to happen without you.

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You'd have to go down there and swim

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around it, I guess. But and we can't do

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that. We don't have that technology.

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Even with the USGS reports and all this,

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they're educated guesses based on

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geology and the structure, the dirt in

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the ground. So, um, none of it's uh a

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for sure thing. Um, but the more

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redundancy we have in place, the better.

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So that's the plan. Um I have like I

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said I have declared a state of

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emergency that makes us eligible for uh

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funding and help and stuff like that. Um

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in the meantime I am working with the

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farmer over there. Um a few people have

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asked me other stuff. Yes I am. And I've

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told him he knows I am actively pursuing

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with the state with the property owners

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to shut him down. Now yes I'm the bad

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guy. Uh, I know the I know the

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gentleman. Um, my son knows the

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gentleman. He's the first person my son

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calls when he has a problem with a cow.

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He's always willing to help. I don't

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like to mess with anybody's livelihood

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or anybody's wire. Anybody. Even people

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don't like me in this town. I don't like

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to do that. Better yet, someone that's

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nice and I like and they're just a good

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person. It sucks. I hate this. It's It's

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horrible. But uh three years ago, I put

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my hand on the Bible and I promised the

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sword of God that I would look out for

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this town and you guys, not the farmer.

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So,

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it's one of those things that I have to

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do and and it's not fun. It's it's one

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of the anytime I have to deny someone's

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request or send out a um violation

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notice and I I hate it. It's the worst

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part of the job because I just try to

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please everyone. So, this is probably

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one of the hardest things I have to do.

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Um, but it's what I signed up for and

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I'm doing it and uh, he's working with

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us, but ultimately in case not, I'm

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actively pursuing to stop the pivots.

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Um, I like them. I like looking at the

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grass and and I like the we're a we're

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farming. It's what we're supposed to be

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about, but emergencies call for

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desperate measures has called for

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desperate. I don't know. Fired. I'm not

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going to let that go. But yeah, I don't

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like to do it, but that's what I'm

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doing. Um,

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well, I think that's it for the water.

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I'm going to see if these guys have any

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questions. I'm gonna open up some

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questions. You guys, I don't want to get

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into it too long of a thing, but we'll

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go. Do you guys have any questions?

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Because this is all going to lead up to

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some stuff that's going on later. So,

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>> with the fourth, do you want to talk

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about fireworks?

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>> We can. Yeah, there's no fireworks.

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» A reminder.

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>> Yep. Absolutely.

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>> We can ban them all. So, you're gonna

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have to go to St. George. There's so we

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had a big

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>> Yeah, that's right.

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>> We had a big mayor email and they were

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saying who's going to do what because

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the governor put out a state uh wideband

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on the fireworks, but he did give the

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option for a town mayor and the fire

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chief to get together and designate an

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area that you could light off fire. Most

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everybody said, "No, no fireworks." And

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that's what Apple Valley stance is.

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That's my stance. I'm not going to take

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any chances, especially when

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everything's dry and we don't even have

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no water to put out a fire. Um, and I'm

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not going to disrespect the firefighters

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and and I think some of the towns, and I

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don't like to get in with other mayors,

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some of the towns are allowing this in

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designated areas. I don't need a

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firework to show the love for my

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country. They just don't need it. Um,

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not in these times. Sure, I like

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fireworks. I like to light stuff. I like

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to blow stuff up, but I'm not going to.

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We're not going to start a fire here in

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Apple Valley. And you're not going to

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get much help. Every freaking

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firefighter in the States out and

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probably other states is out here

526
00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:23,280
fighting these massive fires. There's

527
00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,200
been three lives lost. I'm just not

528
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,360
going to disrespect the fire department

529
00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,120
uh and put them in that situation. I'm

530
00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:30,799
not going to put the town at risk. It's

531
00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:32,160
not just our town. The fire is going to

532
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,320
spread to the other towns and it's just

533
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,679
not going to happen. So, we're not

534
00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:38,799
having any fireworks at all here. Um and

535
00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,200
yes, there will be patrols and yes, if

536
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,679
you're caught doing them, we there's

537
00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:46,640
going to be a zero tolerance. So, um I

538
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,960
will probably have Ildell PD here, the

539
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,799
sheriff will probably be up here. Just

540
00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:52,080
stuff that's out of my hands. They're

541
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,200
just going to be up here patrolling

542
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,720
because of these issues. But yeah, no

543
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,720
fireworks.

544
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,480
>> What a better way to celebrate our

545
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,960
country than to show your respect for

546
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,919
your community and your your fellow man

547
00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:04,559
than

548
00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:05,760
>> by not burning it down.

549
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,840
Yes. Exactly.

550
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,520
>> I just don't think it's fair to not only

551
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,360
your town, but the neighboring towns. If

552
00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:12,880
something gets sparked off, it's not

553
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,039
going to just be Apple Valley or St.

554
00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:16,240
George. It's going to be the whole area.

555
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,600
So, some of the other mayors were not

556
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,039
happy about some of the other mayor's

557
00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:21,360
decisions, but that's their business.

558
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,400
That's their town.

559
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,510
>> Are we gonna go over number four?

560
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,600
» No, no, this is just No, we're gonna

561
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,200
roll into all that. That'll be us. I

562
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,880
just kind of doing look for the town and

563
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,880
the residents. Um, okay. Do you guys I'm

564
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,000
going to open up to questions out here

565
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000
about the water.

566
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,360
>> Yes, sir.

567
00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:42,799
>> What I understand is uh just a quick

568
00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,600
thing that pivot next to the road. I

569
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,039
seen the permit on that he had 170 foot

570
00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:52,320
whale. We went 300 ft. She went another

571
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,720
130 ft according to permit over 9 and

572
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,840
1/2 in Casey. That's the first pivot.

573
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,559
The second pivot is running right now.

574
00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:02,320
It's been running and running and

575
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,200
running. The second pivot I think I

576
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,960
mentioned to you when I came in there

577
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,200
was a drilling rig there, but the only

578
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,120
thing I could find on the second pivot

579
00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:14,559
was 160 ft. I don't know if he went a

580
00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:16,240
little deeper with that drilling rig

581
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,480
about two months ago. No, they're just

582
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,240
cleaning them and stuff like we did.

583
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,840
They have to have a permit to go deeper

584
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,440
and it will be in the well logs. But

585
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,360
>> the one that did went 130.

586
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,400
>> Yeah, the one by the highway. That's the

587
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,880
one we have shut down right now. He I I

588
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,640
didn't tell him to shut down the others

589
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,080
first. He needs to run them because it

590
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,679
did damage to his crops when we had him

591
00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:35,360
off for those days. But though, that one

592
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,120
up there does not though that does not

593
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:39,200
seem to be affecting the town's water.

594
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,640
My belie

595
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,320
>> That's why. Yes, I still believe he's

596
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,600
getting surface water. He hasn't gone

597
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,240
into our office.

598
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,440
>> He hasn't gone as deep. Uh, this is just

599
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,240
a rumor, but I don't know. Travis Holm

600
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,840
is running that thing.

601
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,120
>> I had heard that he quick

602
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,000
claimed that land with the pivots to

603
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,120
another person.

604
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,320
>> He lost all the property.

605
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,960
>> He lost all so he doesn't own any of it.

606
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,600
And he didn't

607
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,360
>> he still owns Crimson, the northern one,

608
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,360
the northern development, that property,

609
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:08,799
he still owns that one. There are

610
00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:11,120
foreclosures going on, but the West

611
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,960
Temple where the this pivot is,

612
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,320
everything on Main Street, everything

613
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,400
other everything else Travis owned, he

614
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,200
lost

615
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,840
>> in

616
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,600
>> he lost and forclosures. He he quit. He

617
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,440
did a deed in lie of there's a lot of

618
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,559
legal stuff there. Instead of a

619
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:27,200
foreclosure, the new investors that had

620
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,760
the prop uh that held the lean out of

621
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,200
Texas now own the property.

622
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,720
>> Texas. And that's what I was thinking.

623
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,159
>> Yep. They own the property now. Yes,

624
00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:34,400
sir.

625
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480
>> Okay. So, we didn't drill well over

626
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,440
there. Uh, I seen the drilling rig over

627
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,600
there. One of our whales. One of two.

628
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,960
>> No, that's what we use. It's the same

629
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,480
machine that they used to blast and

630
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,039
clear.

631
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:46,480
>> That's the same thing. They cleared it

632
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,360
out. And that well itself, those two

633
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,200
whales, of course, one's a backup and

634
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,840
one we used.

635
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,760
>> No, no more. They're both used.

636
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,400
>> Yeah. How deep are they? And what size

637
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,080
of casing do they have?

638
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,320
>> Uh, the Barrett well has an 8 in casing.

639
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,240
The Gregerson has a 10-in casing. And

640
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,360
they're both sitting right at the bottom

641
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,760
of the aquafer close to about 300 ft.

642
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,760
>> Are they that deep? Yes, sir. And once

643
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760
you get down to 300 ft on the aquifer,

644
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840
you start hitting clay and clay doesn't

645
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,440
absorb water, so there's no water in the

646
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,360
clay. So, yeah, we're we're about maxed

647
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,280
out. We have and we have our casing

648
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,960
about 10 ft off of the off the bottom.

649
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,840
You don't want to put it all the way on

650
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,039
the bottom because you'll start you can

651
00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,039
start sucking silts and stuff. So,

652
00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:24,799
>> and I wonder you can run all those

653
00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:26,320
pivots over there and have a lot of

654
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,200
water when we're kind of uh still

655
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,080
pushing bubbles.

656
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,200
>> You'd have to talk to the state

657
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,120
legislator about that one. So yeah,

658
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,440
that's uh that's the way the states ran.

659
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,039
I just have to play by those rules.

660
00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:40,799
>> You blew out the pivots and you say that

661
00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:41,840
did help.

662
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760
>> Uh we No, he shut the pivot down. The

663
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,880
southern pivot,

664
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,480
>> the wells. Yeah. Yeah. No, we Yeah, we

665
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,919
blew them up. We got the pivots. We got

666
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:50,400
the casing. The casing is the pipe. I

667
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,640
say casing. I I used to say pipe and so

668
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,400
I hung out with the drillers all weekend

669
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,600
and they kept saying, "No, it's not

670
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,440
pipe. It's casing. That's the pipe that

671
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,960
goes down there and the pump and the

672
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,720
motors hooked to the end of the casing

673
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,480
or the pipe and we are sitting all the

674
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,320
way as deep as we can go." I didn't know

675
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,559
we realized we were that deep. Yeah,

676
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,320
>> there's nowhere left to go. I went as

677
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,559
down because what I did on my property,

678
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,360
I had those sprayers that with the long

679
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,400
nets. I eliminated all those and put in

680
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,720
a quarter inch little drip line and cut

681
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,120
my water down to a lot with the little

682
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,840
drip line rather than those sprayers.

683
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,080
If you want to make change, Richard, on

684
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,799
a

685
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:30,880
>> on a community level, we really need to

686
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,679
reach out to our representatives and

687
00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:35,520
plead our cases to them

688
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:35,840
>> because

689
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,440
>> And you think they will hear us?

690
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,640
>> No.

691
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,000
>> I'm agree with them. I agree. Try

692
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,600
>> we've done nothing.

693
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,760
>> No, I agree with Kevin 100%. But

694
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,120
ultimately,

695
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,760
>> no. Because St. George and Salt Lake and

696
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,039
all these other cities are going through

697
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:52,480
the same kind of stuff and they're all

698
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,240
complaining and they have way louder

699
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,360
voices than we do.

700
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,080
>> Got more fires, 92,000 acres than

701
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,080
anywhere in the United States. They're

702
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,200
busy. They haven't got time for Apple

703
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,880
Valley

704
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,679
on their general.

705
00:24:05,679 --> 00:24:07,440
>> You would

706
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,280
usually gets taken care of.

707
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,640
>> You are correct. Not when we only have

708
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,360
two. Correct.

709
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:15,520
>> Not when we have 450 registered voters.

710
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,880
Only half of those votes.

711
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,480
>> That's right. It's a fact. I don't care

712
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,080
what anybody says. I be politically

713
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,520
correct or not. That's what they look

714
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,360
at. But I will tell you the state has

715
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,760
actually been very responsive and very

716
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,440
helpful. And so at the water

717
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,080
conservancy, Zach always jumps in. I,

718
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,600
you know, when this all goes down, I

719
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,520
send out a massive email. I've the

720
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,960
governor had given me all these

721
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,400
connections to different people, heads

722
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,480
of departments that can help and I send

723
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,559
out a massive email and Zach was the

724
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:41,679
first one to jump in and said, "Let's

725
00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:43,520
get a Zoom call going. Let's do this."

726
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,200
Zach's always there. But they've all

727
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,720
been very good at helping and offering

728
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600
assistance and expediting permits. We

729
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,039
had the permit while I was on the Zoom

730
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,400
call. She said, "Is that permit right

731
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,919
now to blast that well and get going?"

732
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:55,679
So, they've been very cooperative with

733
00:24:55,679 --> 00:24:56,640
stuff like that. And we're trying to

734
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,679
help with expedition.

735
00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:00,559
>> Shame is look at who's here. I mean, I

736
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,200
am totally disgusted at who shows up.

737
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,600
There may be a few people on Zoom, but I

738
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,000
thought

739
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,880
>> a lot on Zoom.

740
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,240
>> Not

741
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,919
>> and they and most people watch the video

742
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,360
later. I don't know. It usually has a

743
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,960
count up here. Oh, 34. Last time there

744
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,320
was over 100, but there's 30.

745
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,480
>> Most of part should be with the people

746
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,760
coming here, too.

747
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,799
>> Sure.

748
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:20,880
>> I I think they expect us to do our job,

749
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,279
Richard. I really do. A lot of people in

750
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:25,440
the community, I think they expect us to

751
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,360
make the right decision as best we can.

752
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,440
>> Well, I think they need to be involved.

753
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,480
>> Well, I do too.

754
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,000
>> You know, I don't expect

755
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,600
>> I don't disagree with that, but I'm just

756
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,840
saying I I believe a lot of people

757
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,640
>> Yeah. Well,

758
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,880
>> just want

759
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,919
All right,

760
00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:43,440
>> Linda, go ahead. So, I know that when we

761
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,080
had this study done, we had the one

762
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080
aquifer, which is one, which was running

763
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960
the town, and we had aquafer 2 that I

764
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,279
understood was up in Main Street high

765
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,080
up, but it's still ours. But it was at

766
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,320
that point it was what um Homes was

767
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,000
going to use.

768
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,919
>> Nobody owns the aquafers. Anybody can

769
00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:05,360
use it. If you own the property on top,

770
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,240
then you get water, right?

771
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240
>> So, do we own the property on top?

772
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159
>> No, we don't own any propert. town owns

773
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:12,080
the this town. I don't know. I'm new to

774
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,360
being mayors and stuff, but I feel like

775
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:13,840
this town

776
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,960
>> piece right here.

777
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,240
>> I would think I thought the town would

778
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,760
own a lot of property, but of course, we

779
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,480
own the roads, but that's we don't want

780
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,279
properties.

781
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:22,799
>> That one that supposedly

782
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,720
>> Here's the thing. These these property

783
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,159
owners that I've dealt with, these large

784
00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:28,720
properties, Carrie Holt, the grass, the

785
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:35,279
brothers, they are the Hershey's very very generous with I can give you a

786
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:36,960
small easement and stuff like that. I

787
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,720
can imminent domain it. It's not a

788
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,480
problem. I don't believe in it. I don't

789
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,159
want to do it. I would rather work with

790
00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:43,919
them. If I have to, even though I don't

791
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:45,279
believe in it, again, I promised you

792
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:48,000
guys these things. I will do it. But so

793
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,600
far, like with the pump house, the

794
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,360
easements, I got all those guys to

795
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,840
donate that land. And I'm sure that's

796
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,400
going to happen.

797
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,320
>> Nobody really did the well.

798
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,679
>> Not yet. We haven't We don't know where

799
00:26:57,679 --> 00:26:58,880
we're going to drill yet. So, once we

800
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,919
figure out what we're going to drill,

801
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:01,200
then I'll go to the property owner and

802
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,279
say, "Hey, I need to come out here and

803
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:04,640
drill because this is where we think

804
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,400
there's water." And I'll talk to Carrie

805
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Holt or the Graphs or Hershey or whoever

806
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,200
owns the land and I'm very confident, they will work with the

807
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,960
town. They've been great to this town

808
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,320
and they're always like, "Yep, no

809
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,919
problem." And they'll give us the small

810
00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:19,760
easement and then we got a drill. Then

811
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,880
we have water rights. We don't need

812
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,919
their water rights. We have our own

813
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:22,960
water rights.

814
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,520
>> Yeah.

815
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,400
>> And the other thing is it looks like he

816
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,760
um the farmer cut the one that was

817
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,120
taking so much water.

818
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,159
>> Yeah. It's been off.

819
00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,400
>> No, but it looks like he cut it today.

820
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,360
No, I cut it the other day.

821
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,760
>> Oh, the grass. I see. What? Yes. Yeah,

822
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,480
it was time to cut it. Um, he didn't get

823
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,080
much. I talked to him. He didn't get

824
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,080
much because of he stopped watering it

825
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000
for us that very first Thursday, but

826
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,200
it's been cut. But that doesn't mean

827
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,679
it's it's done because you cut it, you

828
00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:53,039
water it again. Usually get three or

829
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:54,559
four. I'm not a farmer, but you get

830
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,279
three or four cuts out of one plant,

831
00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:57,600
>> right?

832
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,240
>> So, yeah.

833
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,000
>> I saw it cut and I thought, well, he's

834
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,480
at least taking his loss and getting as

835
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
much as he could. And then he's still

836
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,480
watering the one that's

837
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,840
>> Yeah, it's a horrible situation because

838
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,279
I mean we're over here going our water, our water. And I get that.

839
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,600
And like I said, I feel horrible. He has

840
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,360
put money into the well. He's put money

841
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,880
into the pivots, the plants, and he has

842
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,120
a lease and it's a bad situation. No

843
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,440
matter there's there's no winners, so

844
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,600
he's going to lose um if he shuts those

845
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,200
down and loses the crop. He's out money

846
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,200
of his pocket. So it's a bad situation.

847
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,360
It's not something I feel good about.

848
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,919
>> Yes, ma'am. government agency gave the

849
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:35,440
okay to do the pipeline originally

850
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,720
>> without without the the the updated USGS

851
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,000
ser survey

852
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,360
>> state division of drinking water

853
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,720
everything

854
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,240
>> they would be really the ones at fault

855
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,559
for giving the okay and now we didn't

856
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:52,480
now we were in a water you know

857
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,279
>> pipeline has nothing to do with this

858
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,960
pipeline was everything was fine until

859
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,960
we turned the pivot on you'd be out of

860
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,480
water regardless

861
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,080
due the drought, the pivot turned on and

862
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,200
we're out of water.

863
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,840
>> In fact, the pipeline if we do run out

864
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,000
of water completely will be the saving

865
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,919
grace cuz I can turn on those t like I

866
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:11,919
always told you guys someday you'll be

867
00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:13,200
so happy to have these when you can't

868
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,679
flush your toilet. I went through we I

869
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:17,279
amongst a few other people that live in

870
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,039
Cedar Point went through three days

871
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:20,880
without water and you can't flush your

872
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,320
toilet. You have to take a bucket of

873
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,159
water and pour it in there. It's not a

874
00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:25,919
pleasant thing. You don't shower. We

875
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:27,360
bathe with uh what do you call them?

876
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,360
Baby wipes and stuff. So, in an

877
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,440
emergency, if this does go dry, we will

878
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,120
turn those wells on over there. I've

879
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,399
told you guys before, I got the state

880
00:29:34,399 --> 00:29:36,000
approval to fire up those well with

881
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600
radium. I got to give you guys a 24-hour

882
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,880
notice and say, "We're putting the

883
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,960
radium water in and we will turn those

884
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,320
wells on and we'll send water back this

885
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,159
way." So, you will have water. It's

886
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:46,640
going to be tight, but you'll have water

887
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,559
and we'll put out a a strict water

888
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,640
conservation and you will have water.

889
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,480
So, thank God that the state gave us

890
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,080
that money and we have that pipeline

891
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,399
because this aquafer is is we're in a

892
00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:58,399
drought, guys. Well, the the main reason

893
00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:00,240
for putting it in even from the very

894
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,039
beginning was so that we had flow across

895
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,360
the whole community from one end to the

896
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,399
other

897
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:08,240
>> ultimately we are one community.

898
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480
>> Well, exactly. And also we had three

899
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,799
separate units which it takes three

900
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,399
times the amount of effort to keep it

901
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:16,880
maintained for the state and everybody

902
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960
involved in it. By consolidating those

903
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,799
together, it makes it a lot easier to

904
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,320
operate the whole water system as a

905
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,840
whole.

906
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,679
>> Drought's bad. I mean there like I said

907
00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:27,279
it's not just us. It's the entire state.

908
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:28,240
Unfortunately, we're out here in the

909
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,440
desert. I think it makes it a little

910
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,600
worse than Salt Lake. At least they have

911
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,960
snow up there, snow pack. Although it's minimal, but it's an issue. I mean,

912
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760
like I said, back on May

913
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,200
25th, I think it was, the governor

914
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,720
declared a state of emergency. We're in

915
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,320
a state of emergency due to the drought.

916
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,120
The entire state, um, you guys haven't

917
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,799
seen me implement water restrictions too

918
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:50,880
much. I've tried to avoid it. I don't

919
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,880
like to tell people that they can't wash

920
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,600
their car and squirt down run their kids

921
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,120
slip and slide till their kids pool is

922
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120
the last thing a mayor wants to do. I've

923
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960
avoided long as I can. They are coming.

924
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960
I don't want to miss I am working on

925
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,720
water conservation now. You are not

926
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,000
going to see for a very long time uh uh

927
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,679
no water conservation. This is going to

928
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:12,000
be a way of life in Utah now. Um it's

929
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,320
just the way it is. I mean, um I don't

930
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480
know how bad it's going to get if if

931
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,240
even if we got rain tomorrow, it I know

932
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,440
soon it rains, everybody goes, "Oh, we

933
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600
got rain." Listen, we're not even that's

934
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,799
not the tip of the iceberg. The only

935
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:23,919
good thing rain does is you should be

936
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:25,120
turning off your sprinklers and not

937
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,880
watering your lawns and that saves us a

938
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360
little water, but we only get 10% of

939
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,840
that water going down and it takes years

940
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,520
to recharge. It's this is going to be

941
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,880
the way of life for a long time. We live

942
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,039
in the desert and we're in a drought. I

943
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,679
don't I I'm not God. So, we will be I am

944
00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:41,200
working on water conservation plans.

945
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
They will be implemented. I'm going to

946
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840
do my best to make them voluntarily, but

947
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,600
if push comes to shove, they will be

948
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,679
enforced and you will be cited for it.

949
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:51,360
it it's we're in a state of

950
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,480
emergency. Yes, ma'am.

951
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,240
>> So, maybe it's time that the state

952
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,360
starts monitoring wells.

953
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
>> What did you say earlier?

954
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,760
>> No, I'm not going to say it.

955
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,039
>> That's the same thing as what he just

956
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:04,720
told Rich. You got to go talk to Yeah, I

957
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
agree with you. I I'm on your guys'

958
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,720
side. They don't monitor wells. They

959
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,480
don't have there's no meters on these

960
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,000
wells right here. Any of these wells,

961
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,080
any private well in Utah does not have a

962
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,600
water meter on it.

963
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,799
>> Everybody here is accountable for the

964
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:18,640
water, but not private wells. And I've

965
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,919
disagree with that from the moment I've

966
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:21,039
came here and they've said, "Oh, yeah.

967
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:22,000
We're going to fix that. We'll fix

968
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,480
that."

969
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,559
>> Do you think he's taken more than acre

970
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:25,360
feet?

971
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,279
>> Who? The private people.

972
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:27,760
>> Yeah.

973
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,799
>> Oh, no. He has he has tons of water. He

974
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,799
has more water. Yeah, he has 800

975
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,399
>> shares just right there. There's more

976
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:37,919
over here because here's remember

977
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:39,200
everybody of these guys that own these

978
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,440
water shares want him to use them

979
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,720
because if you don't use your water

980
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,919
shares you lose them.

981
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:45,600
>> So he doesn't have to own them. Other

982
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600
people can own them and say hey use mine

983
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,799
because right now we're going through

984
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,240
adjudication process and people that

985
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,360
aren't using their water rights lose

986
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,200
them. Use them or lose them

987
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,559
>> and they're taking they're going to

988
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:55,760
Yeah, but they're going to take people's

989
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,640
water rights. And uh

990
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,399
>> so people will tell him all day long use

991
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:02,799
my water rights. Use my water rights.

992
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,799
>> Do the private wells around.

993
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,720
>> Yes. Nobody's nobody's monitored. So

994
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,640
they may get one water right and use

995
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,799
more um they're not monitored. So yeah,

996
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,200
I agree with you 100%.

997
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,559
>> Culinary water in the future.

998
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,240
>> I agree with you 100% on that. I wish

999
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,919
they'd be monitored. Yes, sir.

1000
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:21,360
>> Apologize for not being here for a

1001
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,240
while.

1002
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,760
>> I probably have a couple redundant

1003
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,039
questions if you don't mind.

1004
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:25,440
>> Sure.

1005
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,320
>> So

1006
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Richard just said that the upper well of

1007
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,480
Justin's is possibly on a different

1008
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,039
aquifer. No, it's I don't think he's

1009
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:36,880
into the aquafer. I think he's getting

1010
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,559
groundwater. He's not deep enough to hit

1011
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:39,120
the aquafer.

1012
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,000
>> So, where I go with that question is

1013
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880
right Farmer John down the road when we

1014
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,799
were talking about the golf course and

1015
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,360
the hotel. The guy across the street up

1016
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,950
there had 3,000 acres.

1017
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
» He come to a meeting when we were

1018
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,880
talking about the golf course, the hotel

1019
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360
being built. And he's told us in this

1020
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,519
meeting. He goes, "I got enough water to

1021
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,640
feed Alpha Valley three times over." Do

1022
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,320
we remember that conversation?

1023
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,839
>> No, but I think you must be talking

1024
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,520
about a ballad for the Ballard. Was he

1025
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,320
come here? And

1026
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,000
>> so if you leave Alpha Valley, you go

1027
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,879
down with that car.

1028
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:16,000
>> There's no water over there. That's what

1029
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,879
you're asking me about.

1030
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:18,480
>> That's what I'm asking. But we already

1031
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,560
know that the golf course they didn't

1032
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,040
find any water. He bragged about having

1033
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,960
water. So that was one of my questions.

1034
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,119
I'm

1035
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:26,480
>> guessing he's bragging about water

1036
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,320
rights. Some people think that water

1037
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,520
rights mean you have water.

1038
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,919
>> The difference

1039
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:32,159
>> and water rights is pay for water.

1040
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:32,720
>> Oh, no.

1041
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,079
>> Yeah, you can own all kinds of water

1042
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:35,200
rights, but if there's no water down

1043
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,119
there, nobody owns anything. So, yeah,

1044
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,560
there's no water. There's not that kind

1045
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,320
of water anywhere that way.

1046
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,359
>> What did that happen to? Again, sorry,

1047
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:45,040
redundant.

1048
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,639
>> What's happening with the hotel is

1049
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,960
supposed to get the 8 in pipeline out of

1050
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,879
our well

1051
00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:52,879
>> what's going on with that?

1052
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:54,720
The state has to approve all that and

1053
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:58,480
the state has asked for a updated uh

1054
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,320
water

1055
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,079
basically saying what do we have and

1056
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,760
what they're going to require. They only

1057
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,839
require max because you have to go by

1058
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:08,960
max. The worst case peak day 80 gallons

1059
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,280
a minute. So here's the thing. If we we

1060
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160
have promised to give them water um this

1061
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,599
is based on the information we had at

1062
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,359
the time if we're in a drought. So, I

1063
00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:20,800
still want to get them water and that's

1064
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,560
part of the Celeste Malloy bill that I

1065
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520
want to get uh wells drilled in a

1066
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,280
different aquifer and get water over

1067
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,000
here because we need that because if

1068
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,839
they go away, your water tank goes away

1069
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:33,119
and I don't know what we're going to do

1070
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,560
from there. We got a

1071
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,440
>> fourth question.

1072
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,599
>> Failing water tank for the water tank.

1073
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:38,079
>> They are.

1074
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,160
And so, we have to make sure

1075
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,000
that we get water to them no matter

1076
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,480
what. So,

1077
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,119
>> oh

1078
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:48,720
>> it's a thing for our water tank. Yep.

1079
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,800
So, they're doing a water tank and one

1080
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,720
more. So, what about if someone wants to

1081
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,520
build 500 houses? Now, are we promised

1082
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,520
we have to do all that as well?

1083
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,000
>> It's a very

1084
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,640
>> a good question.

1085
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,119
>> It's a good question because yes,

1086
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:07,200
legally legally a town, a water company

1087
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,079
has to provide people with water. If you

1088
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,079
have it, if you have water rights,

1089
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,040
legally you have to provide it.

1090
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,720
With that being said, I fight it all I

1091
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,400
can and there's gray areas and stuff

1092
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,160
like that, but ultimately I've been told

1093
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,599
if we go to court, we would probably

1094
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,880
lose. Um, but a lot of them are willing

1095
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,880
to help you bring water in from other

1096
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,160
sources. Um, but the state's not

1097
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,000
>> We talked about every source we got.

1098
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,320
>> I know. I know. Trust me, I'm I'm

1099
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,839
>> We do have a limit.

1100
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:39,359
>> So, the state is not very supportive of

1101
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:40,960
anti-growth people.

1102
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,000
>> There's just not

1103
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
>> I get that. That's why we're in a state

1104
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,760
of emergency. And you'll go town still

1105
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960
building to find water and then we have

1106
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,800
to guarantee water to

1107
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,320
>> the good news that I always say. Here's

1108
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,599
the good news is here's what I always

1109
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,079
say. Within the last 50 years, I don't

1110
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,440
want to go back a 100 years to a ghost

1111
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,839
town. Does anybody know anywhere in our

1112
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:01,760
country that a town or city's ever ran

1113
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,079
out of water?

1114
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,640
>> I don't know of anywhere. So, you don't

1115
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,320
run out of water. this ultimately the

1116
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,240
state

1117
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,480
>> ultimately the state is not going to let

1118
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,480
a town run out of water.

1119
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640
>> And my belief, this is my belief, the

1120
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,000
ultimate the state's not going to let us

1121
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
run out of water if they got to go down

1122
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,520
to

1123
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,760
uh St. George and steal water and bring

1124
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,599
a pipe up here. I don't know. But

1125
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,760
ultimately, I've never heard and if you

1126
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,200
do I even did an internet search, I

1127
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,720
couldn't find of any towns other than,

1128
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,400
you know, ghost towns a long time ago

1129
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,800
that have let ran out of water and went

1130
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,200
away, gone down for a few days. that

1131
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,720
think a water truck the water

1132
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:40,400
>> I mean was there five people in the town

1133
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,760
as a water truck won't do nothing

1134
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,280
>> the people

1135
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200
>> I I should say of any significance I

1136
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,320
mean if you have three people in a town

1137
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,160
and it ran our water maybe but

1138
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,040
>> couple years ago

1139
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,560
>> the water tank will do nothing for us to

1140
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,599
bring a water tank it would wouldn't

1141
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:55,200
even last a millisecond so um yeah I've

1142
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,880
never seen one so that's the that's the

1143
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,800
silver lining I guess I just think you

1144
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,520
know but ultimately

1145
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,680
as we get these $2 million grants and

1146
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,040
stuff like that they throw money at

1147
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,760
things

1148
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,800
>> and that's awesome some

1149
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,561
when you first said that Mike like

1150
00:38:10,561 --> 00:38:11,119
[clears throat]

1151
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,119
are we going to spend $2 million with

1152
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,280
somebody going that's where I won't

1153
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,000
spend $2 million right there you know

1154
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,720
>> yep

1155
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,720
>> that's not being funny I'm serious it's

1156
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,160
like um

1157
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,920
>> so

1158
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,119
like I'm in the discussion

1159
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:26,320
>> one more go ahead

1160
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480
>> question is so when we run out of water

1161
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
and hire this well drilling company to

1162
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,950
go out there and stuff

1163
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,280
being the construction stuff like that.

1164
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,760
You got guys go and drill the well. Do

1165
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,240
they have some agency? Are they a

1166
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,520
contractor that's known to know

1167
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,240
about Apple Valley? They got the knowhow

1168
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,160
or they just guys to punch a hole in the

1169
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,000
ground wherever you tell them to.

1170
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920
>> Some Some will have some will have

1171
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,359
knowhow. The guys that we hired.

1172
00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:55,680
>> Yeah.

1173
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,960
>> Oh, they had a lot of knowledge. Yeah.

1174
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,160
They drilled the well. They drilled the

1175
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,760
pivot that that took our water.

1176
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,000
>> Well, I know. [laughter]

1177
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,240
So, yes, they they were very good. Okay.

1178
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,400
In fact, uh, if I would tell, and I

1179
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,920
don't use the club business, but Cluck

1180
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,680
Drilling, if anybody needs to drill

1181
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,040
well, they they literally, we're going

1182
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,119
to get into this later, we had quote

1183
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,839
from them for almost $140,000 to drill a

1184
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:18,160
new well, and he screwed himself. I

1185
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,839
should watch, sorry for my language, he

1186
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:21,119
screwed himself out of that deal. He

1187
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:22,640
didn't get to drill a new well by saving

1188
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,119
us money and fixing our well. So, very

1189
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,200
good guy, very honest, hardworking. They

1190
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,040
were out there all night. Changed family

1191
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,240
plans.

1192
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,880
>> Total respect for Club. Joe was amazing.

1193
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,040
He really was. one story real quick. I'm

1194
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,000
at Melba a week before we had a water

1195
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,839
problem and I I drove out of town

1196
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:43,520
before this all happened. I was out of

1197
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,040
town and all this happened. I could shut

1198
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,599
my water off. I'm I'm out of town. But

1199
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:49,200
I'm at the mailbox. I talked to two

1200
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,960
residents and I haven't been to these

1201
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,720
meetings for a while, but I've been

1202
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,720
watching Justin drilling the well

1203
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,839
alongside the highway. They stopped a

1204
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:01,680
week, then they start drilling again.

1205
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,599
Something's going on with this. I'm

1206
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,160
pondering this. This is before anybody

1207
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,079
told me that we had a water problem or

1208
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,440
facing one and I'm going something's not

1209
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,079
good here. So I asked the other

1210
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,040
residents

1211
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,480
one thing was have we got back results

1212
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,359
for aqua per study. Both of them told me

1213
00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:26,320
yes it's on the Apple Valley website.

1214
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,079
>> The old one is from 2015.

1215
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:29,760
>> Yeah the one the old one ate 10

1216
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,359
>> and it's not going to be it. that one

1217
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:33,280
from 2015. You can read it and it's

1218
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,800
going to be pretty. They don't change a

1219
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,359
lot, but

1220
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:36,560
>> we started one a year ago, though,

1221
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,200
right? We've been

1222
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,880
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Yep. I've got

1223
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,960
the preliminary report. We a verbal.

1224
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,760
It's not written.

1225
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,040
>> I remember that.

1226
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,320
>> No, we have not got it yet. It's

1227
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,320
supposed to have it within a month now.

1228
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,000
>> So, they were misinformed. The other one

1229
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,839
was go,

1230
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:52,400
>> why why is Justin drilling a well along

1231
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,640
the road there?

1232
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,200
>> What do you mean?

1233
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,280
>> Oh, we were told that he needed to move

1234
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,839
his well.

1235
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:00,960
Can you drill deeper?

1236
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,599
>> You have two residents so misinformed.

1237
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,200
>> Oh, trust me, there's a lot more than

1238
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,599
two spent

1239
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,119
move a 30 ft.

1240
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,560
>> There's a lot more than two people

1241
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,480
misinformed. Unfortunately, I get people

1242
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520
I half the critic 90% of the criticism I

1243
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,240
get is always bad information. people if

1244
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,000
you could and even when I tell people

1245
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,760
there's still I could we and you could

1246
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,359
go back to my office for the next week

1247
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:25,760
and I could just flood you with

1248
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,280
information that all this stuff I have

1249
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,920
to process and I mean that's all I might

1250
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800
it's like being an how much I hate this

1251
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,599
misinformation and I know better believe

1252
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:35,920
it

1253
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,440
>> yes I appreciate that because I won't

1254
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,440
lie to you guys I'll tell you and I try

1255
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,359
to do this as often as I can on social

1256
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:43,040
media as much as I used to be because

1257
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,280
I'm out here in the sun all day drilling

1258
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,280
wells and I'm trying to get stuff done.

1259
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,280
But I do my best to keep you guys and I

1260
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,599
will not lie to you guys. Will not

1261
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:52,640
>> question.

1262
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,079
>> Yes, sir. And then I'll jump online. I

1263
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:55,040
think I got one.

1264
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,079
>> Is Hillale in Colorado City

1265
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,079
having water problems too like us?

1266
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,280
>> Everybody in the state had water

1267
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,839
problems.

1268
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:04,560
>> State they've been working on theirs for

1269
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,839
even before we got started over the last

1270
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:08,400
water.

1271
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,240
>> They've had a bunch more well pushing.

1272
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,240
The good thing is they have that that

1273
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,240
creek creek up there and they do have

1274
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,560
springs up there, but everybody's going

1275
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,000
through the water problems and they have

1276
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,280
they used to have well problems where

1277
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,400
they would go have to do water

1278
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,000
conservation when the wells went down.

1279
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,839
It used to be a little worse than ours

1280
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:25,200
because the wells I don't know about the

1281
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,119
actual aquafer but the aquifer they're

1282
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:28,560
sitting on is supposedly comes all the

1283
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,240
way over here. It's huge. That's where

1284
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,319
we were drilled into a Cedar Point, that

1285
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:34,880
aquifer, but we got the radio. So we

1286
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,960
knew if we drilled anywhere around Cedar

1287
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,359
Point, the odds were very high we'll get

1288
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:40,400
radio. We're not going to go back there

1289
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,720
and drill now. We're hoping to come this

1290
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,720
way just east of Main Street and try to

1291
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,520
get away fur f far f far f far f far f far f far f far

1292
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,440
farther away from Cedar Point and not

1293
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,520
have radium. But there's there's a

1294
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,640
chance we could drill down and have

1295
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,560
radium. Now the the geologist USGS says

1296
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,240
there's no more odds of us hitting

1297
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:57,599
radium there than anywhere else just

1298
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,359
because there was radium in Cedar Point.

1299
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:01,520
We're far enough away that that

1300
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,640
shouldn't affect because the water

1301
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,000
doesn't have radium. The dirt has radium

1302
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,440
and it goes into the water. just start

1303
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,480
one more and then I'm gonna go.

1304
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,319
>> Uh so in the future now

1305
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:13,359
I know you sent out emails.

1306
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:15,040
>> Are you going to continue that if we

1307
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,720
have emergencies where we have to come

1308
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:17,440
back on water?

1309
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,280
>> Yeah we'll do we'll always send emails

1310
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,880
once we get the water conservation plan

1311
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,720
in place we'll send it out in in regular

1312
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,119
mail. The best form of communication in

1313
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:26,480
my mind I know some people don't like

1314
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,240
social media that's fine is signing up

1315
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,800
for the text. I try to put everything on

1316
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,920
the text too

1317
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,680
>> and I know a lot of people have said

1318
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,720
that's great. I think just about

1319
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,680
everybody texts. Um I don't spam it. We

1320
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,000
don't go on there and just I try to only

1321
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,520
I can do it. Nobody else. I'm the only

1322
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,680
person has access and I try to keep it

1323
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,839
that way. So we keep the min I I kind of

1324
00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:47,280
watch what we send so you're not getting

1325
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,040
hit with a bunch of stuff and that is

1326
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,880
the best way. I truly believe

1327
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,319
>> last one I saw seven o'clock Saturday

1328
00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:56,160
week and go back watering and stuff.

1329
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,599
>> Yeah, that was the last one I said.

1330
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,200
>> If anybody needs help signing up with

1331
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,119
the text messages, I can definitely help

1332
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:02,079
them.

1333
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,200
>> Anybody else? So, we can get out. I got

1334
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,400
one person on the line and I know

1335
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Peter's going to have a a long- winded

1336
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:10,000
one. So, if there's anybody with a short

1337
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,960
question. Nope.

1338
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,200
>> Not everybody has text and email.

1339
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,680
>> Yes, ma'am.

1340
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920
>> I have a question. Does anybody else's

1341
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,880
water smell like garbage and just smells

1342
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,160
so horrible and I I never seen drink it

1343
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,359
>> just recently?

1344
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:23,839
>> Yeah.

1345
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:26,400
>> No, it's been going on for a while.

1346
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,440
>> Like, what do you mean the whole time?

1347
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,280
Like the last few weeks or years?

1348
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,800
>> No, just since salt this situation. So,

1349
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,599
we drilled down so we got down so deep

1350
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:36,960
we've hit water that hasn't probably

1351
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,960
been utilized in a while and you'll get

1352
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,680
some sulfur smell to it. Um, the first

1353
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,359
day I had a few people saying they smell

1354
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:44,640
sulfur, but they said it went away

1355
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,720
quickly. As we cycle through the water,

1356
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,079
as it gets to the tank and different

1357
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,680
stuff, the smell will go away. It's

1358
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,680
perfectly safe. There's nothing wrong

1359
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,839
with it. It meets all state guidelines.

1360
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:56,079
Sulfur smell is just a cosmetic thing.

1361
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,760
Yeah, I agree it doesn't smell great,

1362
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,920
but uh it will clear up. I don't I can't

1363
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,200
tell you it's going to clear up tomorrow

1364
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,119
or a week or a month, but it will clear

1365
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:03,680
up.

1366
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,800
>> I scared to drink.

1367
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,319
>> No, no, you can drink it. I promise you.

1368
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:08,160
I would not lie to you. I'm drinking it

1369
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,359
right now. This is what I don't you

1370
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:12,240
know, this is what I drink. It's

1371
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,839
>> Nope. You're good. It's just It might

1372
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:15,280
just have a sulfur smell to it and it

1373
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,400
should be going away. I've heard a lot

1374
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,440
of people tell me it's getting better

1375
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,800
and better. Some people say it

1376
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440
completely went away. Okay, Peter

1377
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,040
online. Peter has his hand up.

1378
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Let's unmute Peter and see if he's still

1379
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,030
there.

1380
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,280
muted on his end. No, there you go. Go

1381
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,160
ahead.

1382
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,560
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's good to speak with you

1383
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,920
again.

1384
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,720
>> Thank you.

1385
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:39,280
>> Do you hear?

1386
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,200
>> See you. Good to see you, Gloria.

1387
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,119
>> Yes. Yeah. Well, I I must I must say the

1388
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,119
water looked really good today. Um, I

1389
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,240
filled up my poor man's swimming pool

1390
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:57,599
and uh it's a cattle cattle trough. You

1391
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,680
know, I'm I'm I'm trying to move things

1392
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,000
into a little bit of a lighter heart,

1393
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,000
but can uh my question is can we get a

1394
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,520
commitment from our town reps to

1395
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,760
preserve

1396
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,280
the assets, the commons, the water that

1397
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,920
we have for the people that have already

1398
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,119
committed to live here. And um that

1399
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,000
would be that'd be fabulous because I

1400
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,640
know this is a beautiful place and

1401
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,040
developers would love to Excuse

1402
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,640
me. Sorry. Um you're going to have to

1403
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,839
delete that. Um they would love to, you

1404
00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:45,119
know, we could condize this area, but

1405
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,119
you got to be you you got to work within

1406
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,000
the resources we have. So, can we get a

1407
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,760
commitment from our town reps, the town

1408
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,480
council, your planning commission that

1409
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,440
we're a little bit limited, aren't we?

1410
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,359
>> You know, I don't think there's been an

1411
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,599
administration in this town that fights

1412
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,200
the growth more than our planning

1413
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,119
commission and our current council.

1414
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:12,319
>> I know.

1415
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:13,520
>> And I appreciate that.

1416
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,599
>> The only thing we can't promise is stuff

1417
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,359
that was approved in the past. If

1418
00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:19,040
they've done a zone change, there is

1419
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,960
nothing we can do about it. And

1420
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,200
including water. Water is not an excuse.

1421
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Unfortunately, for according to the

1422
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
state legislature, water is not an

1423
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680
excuse to not grow.

1424
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,902
>> Like it or not, makes sense or not, I'm

1425
00:47:31,902 --> 00:47:34,319
[laughter] with you. But that's the fact

1426
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:37,200
is that's not an excuse not to grow. So

1427
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,040
change has been done. There's not a lot

1428
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,640
we can do. I continue to fight it. Um

1429
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,880
we, you know, lawsuits may come from it.

1430
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,480
I don't know. I'll do everything I can

1431
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,160
to protect it. If I get us in a lawsuit

1432
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,000
over protecting our water, as long as

1433
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,599
you guys agree with me and you have my

1434
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,200
back, I'll I'll do it and we'll fight

1435
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,720
and I'm not as scared to fight with

1436
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:56,800
anybody. Uh, and I'll do it. So, that's

1437
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,640
my commitment. I I'm sure that they're

1438
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,880
pretty much feel the same way. Um, but I

1439
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,480
think they're we all live here and we're

1440
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,319
all protecting it the same way. We have

1441
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:06,560
our investments here. We live here. But,

1442
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,400
yeah. Um, you know, you guys know how I

1443
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,680
felt coming in. I didn't want to change

1444
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,920
nothing about Apple Valley. I guess some

1445
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,280
people said, "Come in and shut the door

1446
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,520
behind you." Yeah, I guess I'm guilty.

1447
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,720
Yeah, I would have loved to have done

1448
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,079
that. I know it's not realistic, but I

1449
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:19,280
would have loved to have done that. So,

1450
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,240
yeah,

1451
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,119
>> I'm I'm just saying that, you know, the

1452
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:24,800
resource

1453
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,040
>> there's a limit.

1454
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,559
>> You know, um

1455
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:29,599
>> Yep.

1456
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:31,280
>> We we agree with you, Peter.

1457
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,440
>> We agree with you 100%. We'll do what we

1458
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,440
can.

1459
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,440
>> We too that everybody in this community

1460
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:37,760
should

1461
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,240
>> It's a lovely place. I would love to

1462
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,280
have everybody come here and live here

1463
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480
and enjoy what I have enjoyed for 23

1464
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,680
years. Um, and

1465
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,920
>> not me, I'm stingy.

1466
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,839
>> Um, Zion National Park is a nice Zion

1467
00:48:55,839 --> 00:48:58,720
National Park is a nice place to have in

1468
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,720
your backyard. So,

1469
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,240
>> yes, it is. It's a beautiful place. I

1470
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,839
agree with you. Oh, uh,

1471
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:05,920
>> fight every day to protect it. And, and

1472
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,800
yeah, I I, uh, in fact, if you don't

1473
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,160
know already, I'll go ahead and tell you

1474
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,839
we were served with Travis Holmes

1475
00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:14,400
lawsuit, um, a few days ago. I don't

1476
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,160
think it's public knowledge yet, but it

1477
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,920
is now. I just told you guys. So, we

1478
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,440
have been served with the lawsuit that

1479
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,440
we had that I said was just a threat

1480
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,559
because we haven't been served. We've

1481
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,880
actually been served now. So, yes, we do

1482
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,640
everything we can, including getting in

1483
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,480
lawsuits to protect the water and

1484
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,800
protect the growth. So, um, as long as

1485
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,559
you guys support that, I'll keep doing

1486
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:35,280
it. Um, and we'll we'll fight them.

1487
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,400
We'll go to court and we'll fight

1488
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,400
people. I mean, I know what's right and

1489
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,880
we'll fight for you guys. So,

1490
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,319
>> anybody else?

1491
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:43,920
>> Yes, sir.

1492
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,440
>> Doesn't the city have the right to

1493
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,440
make developers when they come in bring

1494
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,800
some water with them?

1495
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,400
>> They can. They have to bring in water

1496
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,559
rights. But, but remember, water rights

1497
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,079
don't mean there's water. So,

1498
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,079
>> so yes, we can require we can we have

1499
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,400
the option of making them purchase some

1500
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,079
from us if we have extra

1501
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,520
>> or they have to bring in their water

1502
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,000
rights.

1503
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,960
>> There still got to be water.

1504
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,559
>> But you still got to have water. Yes,

1505
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,599
sir. You know, but you are correct.

1506
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,880
>> Real quick, did that land sell that the

1507
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,000
farmer lease

1508
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,599
>> last two weeks ago or a week ago? We had

1509
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,720
heard that just that day there was a new

1510
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,559
owner. Yeah, it got Yeah, there's that's

1511
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:27,760
what we were saying earlier. He Travis

1512
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,040
lost the property. There's a new owner.

1513
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,160
It didn't sell. It was foreclosed, if

1514
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,680
you want to say that way. Repossessed.

1515
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,559
Yeah. Okay.

1516
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:36,160
>> So, there's a new owner. Now, the new

1517
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,040
owner is sending it to auction uh as a

1518
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,640
foreclosure. And the reason he's doing

1519
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,559
that is that will clear all the loans on

1520
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:46,880
it because Travis took out after he he

1521
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,800
went and got more loans on the property.

1522
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,160
And so, when those guys take it, they

1523
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,760
have to assume those loans. But if you

1524
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,119
go through the foreclosure process,

1525
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:54,480
unfortunately those people that loan

1526
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,240
millions of dollars to Travis lose

1527
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,000
everything. There's there's no recovery

1528
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,200
because they're not the senior leanh

1529
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,960
holders. So this will clear the land and

1530
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,720
they'll own it free and clear. They are

1531
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,880
not developers. They're investors. They

1532
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,720
will sell the property.

1533
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:07,920
>> So [clears throat] it doesn't mean

1534
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,760
everything's

1535
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,520
done and over. But

1536
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,800
>> and do we have to go with the halfacre

1537
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,319
lots or whatever the zoning?

1538
00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:18,000
>> I don't know yet. I mean, we're

1539
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,520
>> we're we're going to I'm sure we're

1540
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,880
going to wind up in court over some of

1541
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,440
this, and that's not our plan. No, no,

1542
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,440
they we voided those DAs. And that's

1543
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,319
what I thought we did.

1544
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:28,079
>> So, yeah, we we've

1545
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:29,760
>> Yes. I can't say too much about it.

1546
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,079
Okay.

1547
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,319
>> But, yep, we're fighting it. So, okay

1548
00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:34,800
guys, with that, we are going to close

1549
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,640
that out. And if you guys online don't

1550
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,160
want to stay around for the last two

1551
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,839
little portion of this, you guys want to

1552
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:41,920
leave, that's fine. We're just going to

1553
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160
go into our meeting for our budgets and

1554
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,760
stuff like that.

1555
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,160
the audio which is the break phone

1556
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,680
because I can't hear the line.

1557
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,880
>> Yeah. So, if you guys want to talk, you

1558
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,160
can go outside and talk, but she has to

1559
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,359
be able to hear the recording for our

1560
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:57,190
official meeting.

1561
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,079
» Trisha,

1562
00:51:58,079 --> 00:51:59,680
>> we have to be quiet because she has to

1563
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,720
be able to hear. If you guys want to

1564
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,559
talk, go outside, talk all you want. The

1565
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:04,400
meeting's over. We're just going to do

1566
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,599
uh town council stuff now.

1567
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:07,200
>> You have a public hearing though.

1568
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,640
>> Yep.

1569
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040
>> So, now I'm going to open up public

1570
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,800
comments. Three minutes each. If anybody

1571
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,880
has any comments that are not about that

1572
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,040
water stuff we just went over, I I guess

1573
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,480
you can't comment on that, but we're not

1574
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,319
going to answer questions. Anybody

1575
00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:24,240
online? Anybody in the audience? Nope.

1576
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,680
Okay, I'm going to close out the public

1577
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,119
comment. We're going to roll into public

1578
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,280
hearing for item number two, resolution

1579
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,520
R-20226-2024.

1580
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,280
I'm sorry, let me do that. Item number

1581
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,480
two, resolution R-20226-24,

1582
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,400
adopting the fiscal year 2027 budget.

1583
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,040
Any comments online? Anybody in the

1584
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,760
audience?

1585
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,040
Nope. Okay, I'm going to close the

1586
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,160
public hearing for item number two,

1587
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,559
resolution R-2026-24,

1588
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:53,599
adopting the fiscal year 2027 budget.

1589
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:54,720
Going to roll into discussion and

1590
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,240
action. Item number three, resolution

1591
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,319
R-2026-24,

1592
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:00,960
adopting the fiscal year 2027 budget.

1593
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,559
Nothing changed since you guys saw it

1594
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,200
last. We made zero changes. There was no

1595
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,640
comments. There was nothing. So, it just

1596
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,400
stayed exactly how it is. So, now we

1597
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,400
just have to make final approval. So, it

1598
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,190
goes into effect tomorrow morning.

1599
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,640
Just if you guys got any questions about

1600
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,000
it, but like I said, nothing changed

1601
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,680
from our last meeting.

1602
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,079
>> I'm make a motion we approve resolution,

1603
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:27,520
excuse me R-2026-4

1604
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,319
adopting fiscal year 2027.

1605
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:30,960
Second

1606
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,319
>> roll call vote.

1607
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:34,160
>> Got the other I s I

1608
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,240
>> Mike Ferrar I have I

1609
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,520
>> Richard Palmer I

1610
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,920
>> motion carries

1611
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,800
>> on item number four resolution R-2026-23

1612
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,800
declaring a water supply emergency and

1613
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,599
authorizing emergency expenditures.

1614
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:51,359
Now let me tell you guys what's going on

1615
00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:52,880
here.

1616
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:58,880
So, the original quote was to $130,000

1617
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,880
to drill a new well and then $25,000 to

1618
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,680
clean the merit well um to get it up and

1619
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,119
running. So, we had to clean the merit

1620
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,760
well, get it up and running to hopefully

1621
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,280
hold this over with water and then drill

1622
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,839
a new well we thought next to it. And

1623
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:14,960
then we were still going to have to

1624
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,839
blast the Gregerson well. So, uh, we

1625
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:19,200
were able to get to the bottom of the

1626
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,440
merit well, clear it, get the get the

1627
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,640
casing down there, so we didn't have to

1628
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,839
drill a new well. So, we could

1629
00:54:23,839 --> 00:54:27,280
eliminate, I quote, $130,000 quote, but

1630
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,440
we still had to blast out the two wells.

1631
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,400
We're into this for about $70,000 for

1632
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,280
the drilling. We're into this for about

1633
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,960
$25,000 for the pump company that did

1634
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,640
the pump and the motor and pulled

1635
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,760
everything out. We're still waiting. Oh,

1636
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:44,960
I had to buy a shipping container

1637
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,920
because we had to tear down the

1638
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,440
buildings to drill deep to get the drill

1639
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,880
rig in there. We bought a shipping

1640
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,280
container with 4,000. So, we're right

1641
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,280
about 100,000 right there. The only

1642
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,319
things that are still outstanding is the

1643
00:54:56,319 --> 00:54:58,319
electrician and the Kada guy, which are

1644
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:00,079
going to be some pretty heavy costs. I

1645
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,880
estimated this whole thing um at less

1646
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,000
than $150,000 or less. I have applied

1647
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,240
for

1648
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,680
state emergency funding with the

1649
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,359
I could remember the department um but

1650
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,040
it's the emergency state of emergency

1651
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,400
with the with the state. Technically

1652
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,040
these are kind of not eligible for that

1653
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,319
but they're trying to help us. They're

1654
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:24,240
looking at a gray area. It's going to

1655
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,640
the governor's desk. Um, so we're

1656
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,119
looking to get some relief there, but

1657
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,440
ultimately if we do not, ultimately the

1658
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,680
town is responsible for these charges

1659
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,119
and I'll figure out how to pay for

1660
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:38,160
everything. Um, but what the resolution

1661
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,760
is, I know Kevin was suggesting question

1662
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,599
is just

1663
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,599
basically approving these emergency

1664
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:45,280
expenditures.

1665
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,200
Um, and

1666
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,040
>> I guess my biggest question is where are

1667
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,200
these funds coming from? How can we

1668
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,720
afford to take care of this? And also, I

1669
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,880
just want to make sure that I'm looking

1670
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,680
at this $200,000

1671
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,000
merit authorized. Are we approving you

1672
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,400
to authorize an emergency spender of

1673
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,200
$200,000 at this meeting right now?

1674
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,480
>> Yes.

1675
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,400
>> Okay. And is that like a one-time thing

1676
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,040
or to come to council? We need to all be

1677
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,720
involved in it or is this something that

1678
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:19,589
you do on your own?

1679
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:22,559
» Yes, this is an emergency situation that

1680
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:27,430
we are authorizing. I'm trying to

1681
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,799
» No, this is the one time deal

1682
00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:32,799
council part

1683
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:34,640
in the future with somebody else where

1684
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,359
we don't

1685
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:37,200
>> Yeah. Yeah. Remember and and I

1686
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,400
>> need to stay within.

1687
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,960
>> Yep. And I agree. And and remember every

1688
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,640
anything we change I do keep a log of

1689
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,839
and if if uh at some point we think

1690
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:47,200
we're going away, we want to change

1691
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,200
something, we can but the next council

1692
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,079
will change it back. But um

1693
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,000
>> those uh until the emergency condition

1694
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,200
has been mitigated.

1695
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,200
>> Yeah, that's what this says. And and I

1696
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,880
try and I and I tried to bring it to

1697
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,799
council as soon as I can. We actually

1698
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:02,240
were going to do this something sooner,

1699
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,240
but we knew we had this on Tuesday. But

1700
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,640
yeah, I mean honestly,

1701
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,480
even if I can't, I'm not going to lie to

1702
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,920
you guys. I'm going to do it. I'm not

1703
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,359
going to let my town run out of water.

1704
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:11,920
>> Got to do it.

1705
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,359
>> I mean, the same as I told the state,

1706
00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:14,720
I'd rather ask for forgiveness than

1707
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:16,240
permission. When they were sapping about

1708
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,920
the permits and all this stuff, I said I always told you guys the state, I

1709
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,040
won't do something without your per

1710
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,559
without telling you, but I'm not waiting

1711
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:24,640
for permission. I'm telling you, this is

1712
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,200
what we're doing. And uh I promised you

1713
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,520
I'd tell you. But yeah, ultimately, I

1714
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,799
mean, I'll try to get a meeting as

1715
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:32,720
quickly as I possibly can and get you

1716
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,280
guys involved. Um, but yeah, ultimately,

1717
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,359
just like the last few days, I mean, I

1718
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:38,640
know you know, Kevin, because you're

1719
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,280
here. Um, yeah, I wasn't sleeping. I was

1720
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,440
out there. If I wasn't in here on

1721
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,520
conference zooms or shooting emails, I

1722
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,160
was out there at the well site um

1723
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,559
drilling wells and stuff. Yep.

1724
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:55,599
>> Yep. So yeah, I've uh I've uh

1725
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:57,440
overstepped my purchasing power on this

1726
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,319
one. So like I said, I'm going to ask

1727
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:02,559
for forgiveness instead of permission.

1728
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:03,440
Um

1729
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,920
>> well, as we approve resolution RS2026-23

1730
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,680
declaring a waters by emergency

1731
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,760
authorizing emergency inspectors. Just

1732
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,400
before we vote on that,

1733
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,640
>> thank you. I just want to make sure we

1734
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,480
all understand what we're handing over

1735
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,119
here is temporary, but it could go long

1736
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,920
term. I'll be honest with you, I for the

1737
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,280
most part don't question anything the

1738
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,799
mayor's ever done because everything

1739
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:28,799
I've ever been involved in, it's been

1740
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:31,119
100%. And I believe this will be the

1741
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:32,880
same way. But I still need to bring it

1742
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,000
up

1743
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,599
>> that we understand what we're doing

1744
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,200
>> for sure. Absolutely. Okay.

1745
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,559
>> Motion on the table. We're just waiting

1746
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:39,440
for a second.

1747
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,599
>> Second.

1748
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:42,720
Who' you get Jenna?

1749
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,880
>> Richard got roll call vote.

1750
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,960
>> Mike Far.

1751
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,240
>> Richard.

1752
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,400
>> Motion carries. We don't need a close

1753
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,030
session. If someone wants a motion here.

1754
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,559
» All in favor?

1755
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,280
>> Motion carries. Meeting adjourned.

1756
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,240
I take a few.