[0:04] start it.
[0:08] I'm going to call this meeting to order.
[0:09] Town council hearing and meeting. It's
[0:10] Wednesday, August 19th, 2026 at 6 p.m.
[0:13] And we'll start with the pledge
[0:18] to the flag of the United States of
[0:21] America and to the republic for which it
[0:24] stands. One nation under God,
[0:27] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:30] for all.
[0:32] >> Kevin, you want to pray for us?
[0:33] >> Yeah.
[0:36] >> Heavenly Father, we're grateful to
[0:37] gather here and those that can make it
[0:39] out to join our meeting tonight. We hope
[0:42] this will go smoothly and we're grateful
[0:45] for all the rain we had. Um I'm still
[0:48] going to pray for rain, but maybe we
[0:49] could slow the flow a little bit this
[0:50] time. But we appreciate what we've got.
[0:53] And uh please bless our little
[0:54] community, Father, that we may be
[0:55] prepared in all things. Forgive us for
[0:58] our transgressions and transgresses
[1:00] against our neighbors and friends and
[1:02] that we can all get along and work
[1:04] together. We humbly say these things in
[1:06] the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
[1:09] >> All right, roll call.
[1:11] >> Oh, Kevin S here,
[1:12] >> Mike Ferrar here,
[1:13] >> Scott Taylor here, Richard Palmer here,
[1:15] >> and Vinlo will not be joining us
[1:17] tonight.
[1:19] Um, any conflicts of interest?
[1:21] >> No.
[1:23] >> Money for me.
[1:26] >> It's not your wife.
[1:27] >> Nope.
[1:34] » Uh, mayor's town update reports
[1:35] recommendations. I really don't have a
[1:37] lot. I mean, there's not I could sit
[1:38] here talk about the flood all day long.
[1:40] I do want to talk about a silver lining
[1:42] to the flood. Um we're in my estimates
[1:47] our water level is dropping about 10 to
[1:50] 15 feet a year in the aquafer. Um they
[1:54] say any rain will take years and years
[1:55] to get down to the aquafer. So any of
[1:57] this rain is not doing anything. That's
[2:00] the science, that's the engineers. Um
[2:03] and I respect what they say, but the
[2:05] proof's in the pudding. From this last
[2:07] storm, uh we gained 2 feet in our water
[2:09] level. I don't know how long that's
[2:11] going to stay. It's only been a few
[2:13] days, but it's holding so far. So,
[2:16] that's some good news. I know it can't
[2:18] soak through the ground that fast, but
[2:19] maybe there's a river uh that's feeding
[2:21] it when we get some rain. Um I'm not
[2:23] sure. They've never really monitored the
[2:25] level. So, that's some pretty good news.
[2:26] That was the silver lining to the storm.
[2:29] So, um we did a couple more storms like
[2:31] that. And it's not a lot. It's 2 feet
[2:33] when you're losing, you know, 10 to 15
[2:34] feet a year, but it's something. It's
[2:36] not going this way. It started going
[2:37] that way. So, that was really good news.
[2:40] So, we need to dam up our pond out here.
[2:42] >> Yeah, we need dam water.
[2:45] >> Yep. So, that's it.
[2:47] >> Dude, would stop washing his car.
[2:49] >> You guys got anything?
[2:51] >> No.
[2:52] >> Nope. All right, let's roll on the
[2:53] public comments. Three minutes each.
[2:55] Anybody here have got anything they want
[2:57] to say? Anybody online?
[3:01] » Nope. All right, I'm going to close
[3:03] public comments. We're going to roll
[3:04] right into the public hearing. Item
[3:06] number one, parody water. I'm going to
[3:08] open a public hearing for item number
[3:09] one, parody water revenue revenue bonds
[3:11] not to exceed 4,500,000.
[3:14] This uh the meeting on the 19th is the
[3:16] public hearing for the purpose of
[3:17] receiving input from the public with
[3:19] respect to the issuance of the bonds and
[3:21] any potential economic impacts to the
[3:23] private sector from the engineering and
[3:25] well rehabilitation work to address an
[3:27] emergency drop situation and the
[3:28] acquisition of the assets of big claims
[3:31] water and sewer special service district
[3:33] including real property and water
[3:34] rights. the project to be funded by the
[3:36] parody water revenue bonds in the amount
[3:39] to not to exceed $4,500. The council
[3:42] will not need to adopt any documents.
[3:44] Just hold the public hearing. The
[3:45] minutes from the hearing should include
[3:47] the bond being issued, the $200,000
[3:49] emergency project, as well as the
[3:50] drinking water board and rural
[3:52] development bonds that are being issued
[3:54] and acquiring the big plains debt, the
[3:56] repayment terms, and any comments
[3:58] received from the public. So, what's
[4:00] we're not taking out, before everybody
[4:01] panics, I know some people read stuff.
[4:02] We're not taking out $4.5 million loan.
[4:05] Um, this is us still finishing up the
[4:07] change over from Big Claim to the town.
[4:09] Um, even though we assumed all their
[4:11] debt and their assets, we have to
[4:12] officially put the debt into our name.
[4:15] We've been waiting on some of the state
[4:17] people for about a year. Um, so we're
[4:19] finally at the point where the ball is
[4:21] rolling. So, that's what this is. Just
[4:24] something that we're required to do
[4:25] public hearing. So, let's see if anybody
[4:27] had anything to say and I'll let
[4:28] Michelle probably do have some stuff you
[4:30] want to add or
[4:31] >> No, just mainly that it it's the
[4:34] existing or pre-existing debt that was
[4:37] with big claims and then it also
[4:39] includes the $200,000 loan that
[4:41] >> $200,000 that the division of drinking
[4:44] water gave us for our state of emergency
[4:46] declared. Uh the reason we are taking
[4:48] that loan is I don't believe in debt,
[4:50] but it's $200,000
[4:52] 0% interest for 30 years. So, it's free
[4:55] money. I can put that in the bank and
[4:56] earn money on interest. So, it's
[4:58] definitely a good thing and we can use
[5:00] the moneyound that Yep. And we can use
[5:02] the money for the repairs because that's
[5:04] a lot of money and I didn't know where
[5:06] we're going to get the money. So, all
[5:07] that works out pretty good. So, um any
[5:11] public comments? Anybody have anything
[5:13] to say about that?
[5:15] Online?
[5:17] No. All right. I'm going to close out
[5:20] the comments for item number one. I'm
[5:21] not going to read all that again. And
[5:24] I'll open up the public hearing for item
[5:25] number two, resolution number
[5:27] R-20226-27,
[5:29] amending the water conservation plan.
[5:32] I'll go over that with you guys later in
[5:34] detail. It's just basically setting up
[5:35] some stages for water conservation.
[5:38] Anybody have anything to say?
[5:41] Anybody online?
[5:45] Nope. Okay. I'm going to close the
[5:46] public hearing for item number two,
[5:48] resolution number R-2026-27,
[5:50] amending the water conservation plan.
[5:52] Then roll in item number three, open up
[5:54] public hearing to resolution number
[5:55] R-2026-28,
[5:57] amending B schedule with emergency water
[5:58] rights in exhibit A. This is also goes
[6:01] with number two. This is just going to
[6:03] be something we're going to talk about
[6:04] later with emergency water rights.
[6:05] Anybody have any comments or questions
[6:08] from the public? Anybody online?
[6:13] Nope. Okay. Okay, I'm going to close
[6:14] public hearing for item number three,
[6:15] resolution number R-20226-28,
[6:18] amending P schedule with emergency water
[6:20] rates in exhibit A. On item number four,
[6:23] open up public hearing for ordinance
[6:24] numbers O-20226-18,
[6:27] revised procurement ordinance. This is
[6:29] just Michelle's been working on some of
[6:30] our procurement ordinances and policies
[6:32] to ensure room state law. Anybody out
[6:35] there got anything comments or
[6:36] questions? Anybody online?
[6:41] Nope. Okay, I'm going to close item
[6:43] number four, ordinance numbers
[6:45] O-20226-18,
[6:47] revised procurement ordinance. Roll
[6:49] right into discussion and action. Going
[6:51] to open up number five for discussion
[6:52] action. Special event permit for the
[6:54] 2026 Grand Circle Trail Fest to be Trail
[6:56] Fest to be held on October 2nd, 2026 at
[6:59] Ruby Ryder Ranch and the Wire Mesa
[7:01] Trail, Apple Valley, Utah. This will be
[7:03] on October 2nd, 2026. Um, this is the
[7:06] yearly trail run they event. There's one
[7:08] that they do for three days. This is the
[7:10] one they do for one day. going to have
[7:11] about 400 people. These guys know the
[7:14] drill. We had zero problems from them
[7:16] last time with setup, the race and tear
[7:19] down, clean up. They're looking at 5
[7:20] a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Um they water down the
[7:23] road with dust. They've done a really
[7:25] good job with that. Bring in the town, I
[7:28] think about $1,700 somewhere around
[7:30] there. We have $500 vent fee, $250 drone
[7:33] fee. They usually pay $250 for dirt road
[7:34] and 750 for fire. So I think it's a
[7:38] pretty simple one. Scott Taylor move we
[7:40] approve the special event permit for the
[7:42] 2026 Grand Circle Trail Fest to be held
[7:44] on October 2nd 2026 at the Ruby Ryder
[7:47] Ranch in the Wire Mesa Trail, Apple
[7:49] Valley, Utah.
[7:50] >> Second.
[7:52] >> All in favor?
[7:53] >> I.
[7:54] >> Motion carries. On item number six,
[7:57] resolution number R-20226-31,
[7:59] establishing procedures for resolving
[8:01] ties and filling midterm vacancies.
[8:03] We're going to adopt an official
[8:05] permanent uh procedure for uh adopting
[8:10] uh uh town counsel
[8:13] members when we have a vacancy. And the
[8:16] reason we have to do that is the year
[8:18] the rules change all the time. Um so
[8:21] this one is basically just care
[8:23] clarifying that the town council does
[8:25] interviews that we interview the people.
[8:27] We vote. If there's a tie, we go to a
[8:30] tiebreaker. There's I think there was
[8:31] three or four different choices we could
[8:33] choose. Uh me and Jenna looked at it and
[8:36] we chose the simplest one. Jenna, what
[8:38] is that? How would that tiebreaker work
[8:39] if there was a tie
[8:40] >> that arm wrestling?
[8:41] >> It's called by drawing by lot.
[8:44] >> Oh, okay.
[8:46] >> Yeah.
[8:47] >> So, that's all that is. If you guys read
[8:49] through it, if you have questions for me
[8:51] or Jenna, I would say me, but Jenna
[8:53] probably knows it better than me. I've
[8:54] read through it, but it's pretty simple.
[8:56] It's mainly just for, like I said, just
[8:57] for a time here.
[9:04] Scott telling move we approve resolution
[9:06] number R-202026-31
[9:09] establishing procedures for resolving
[9:11] ties and filling midterm vacancies.
[9:15] Roll call vote.
[9:17] >> I sir I
[9:18] >> Mike Ferrari I
[9:19] >> Scott Taylor I
[9:20] >> Richard Palmer I
[9:22] >> motion carries on item number seven
[9:25] interviews and appointment to fill
[9:26] midterm vacancy on the Apple Valley Town
[9:28] Council pursuant to Utah code 28-1-510.
[9:33] We have three applicants. We have Brooke
[9:35] Paxton, Leaf Relish, and Tanya let me
[9:38] see Netson. Is that right? Nen
[9:40] >> Nudson.
[9:41] >> Nen.
[9:43] >> Okay. Um, before we get started, I can
[9:45] tell you I know all three of these
[9:47] people. I think most of us do. Um, I'm
[9:50] pretty excited about this these three
[9:52] people. Um, I could flip a coin right
[9:55] now and and I would think any one of
[9:57] these three people would be great for
[9:58] the town, great for town council. Um, I
[10:01] think we have excellent choices. Um, so
[10:03] I'm very excited about that. So, let's
[10:06] jump in with Brooke since we have her
[10:07] online. Brooke, can I make you go first?
[10:10] you want to uh what do we normally do is
[10:12] kind of tell us a little bit about
[10:13] yourself and um I think everybody's got
[10:16] our application. We've sent those out to
[10:18] everybody and
[10:20] tell us a little bit about yourself and
[10:21] why you think you'd be a good council
[10:22] member.
[10:27] » Sure. Um I am married. I have two kids.
[10:34] I homeschool. Uh, I also am very
[10:38] involved
[10:40] with the community garden in Apple
[10:43] Valley and really just want to be of
[10:47] service to the town and if I can be, I
[10:51] would love to make myself available.
[10:55] >> Thank you, Brooke. We appreciate that. I
[10:57] think we all know Brooke. She's heavily
[10:59] invol involved with the town garden. She
[11:01] does amazing things. Uh, she does an
[11:03] amazing job. has two amazing young boys
[11:05] that uh some of the best young men I've
[11:07] ever met. Um she's good people and and
[11:11] she shares a lot of the town values with
[11:13] the residents want. So
[11:15] >> yes, Ryan's a great guy. Ryan's a great
[11:18] guy. So, okay, let's roll. Let's put Lee
[11:21] on the hospital. Lee, come up.
[11:24] >> Did you bring a lot of cash?
[11:27] Yeah, I got to
[11:30] uh leave. I've been here for 12 years.
[11:34] We built our home
[11:36] or 14. So any I'm retired. I spent uh 30
[11:40] plus years in a career in corporate
[11:42] development
[11:44] uh building building us and
[11:48] some in Canada, some in Mexico, some in
[11:50] Europe. So had quite a bit uh career and
[11:55] put on a lot of plane miles.
[11:58] Anyway, uh I've been on the planning
[12:00] commission for over 10 years since I've
[12:03] been here. U going way back to Mayor
[12:07] Moer and through his second term and
[12:09] beyond. I think I've served seven or
[12:12] eight mayors in that time.
[12:15] Um, some of it was contentious, but but
[12:18] mostly uh the best thing I'm most proud
[12:21] of is we aren't as contentious as we
[12:23] used to be.
[12:25] >> I remember a time when we had called
[12:27] police come in here and break up fights.
[12:30] >> So, u I think we've matured a little bit
[12:33] since then.
[12:34] >> But anyway, I I just want to continue my
[12:37] career in helping the city and I think
[12:39] it's time for me to get to graduation.
[12:41] So
[12:43] >> let me just say regardless of anything
[12:45] that happens in the vote tonight that I
[12:48] appreciate all the time you've spent in
[12:50] our community helping out being 10 years
[12:52] on the planning commission certainly
[12:53] earned your rewards on
[12:54] >> I have a short memory
[12:59] » that certainly does help your
[13:00] qualifications.
[13:02] >> I've worked with Lee on planning
[13:03] commission for a short time and rally's
[13:05] worked with him as good as they come. uh
[13:08] has a lot of the town values uh
[13:10] concerned um kind of uh does a good job
[13:14] on his homework, his research.
[13:17] The only drawback, there is a drawback
[13:18] to electing Lee and that's Bradley was
[13:21] going to be very upset with us because
[13:22] he has to find a new planning commission
[13:24] member and he doesn't want to lose Lee,
[13:26] but he does know what's best for the
[13:28] town if that's the case we decide on.
[13:29] So, all right, Tanya, you want to come
[13:31] up? Tell us a little about yourself.
[13:38] Tanya Kudson. I moved here in 2019 about
[13:42] three months before COVID hit from
[13:45] California. Best move I ever made. Um
[13:50] >> I lived in Ranch Cook Monga, which when
[13:53] I moved there in 1999 was open fields. I
[13:57] know those of you that haven't lived in
[13:58] California find that hard to believe,
[14:00] but open fields. We would have hot air
[14:03] balloons, land, herds of sheep. I mean,
[14:06] it was it was rural, it was country, it
[14:09] was wonderful.
[14:11] And when I left, it was a nightmare. So,
[14:14] I just had to get out. Um, I worked 30
[14:19] years in aerospace,
[14:22] um, planning, uh, program management,
[14:25] uh, working closely with engineering.
[14:28] Uh, I can read blueprints. I just did
[14:32] everything I could learn about the
[14:34] aerospace industry. And although I don't
[14:37] know a lot about this side of the
[14:41] government and and all of this, I feel
[14:43] like I'm very motivated and I I'm very
[14:47] detail oriented and I just want to see
[14:50] the town I'm retired, the town that I
[14:53] retired to grow in a slow and managed
[14:58] way, not like what I've seen before. I
[15:01] also lived in Maine for seven years in a
[15:03] little tiny town. So I know what it's
[15:05] like to live both in a huge town and a
[15:10] very small town. Sorry, I haven't
[15:12] interviewed in 25 years.
[15:14] >> You're good. You're good.
[15:17] >> You're good.
[15:17] >> And I didn't plan on it either.
[15:19] [laughter]
[15:20] >> I like to spring things on you
[15:22] >> and I'm open to change.
[15:23] >> Good. Good.
[15:24] >> So I just want to help. And if you
[15:28] decide to go with Lee, I might be
[15:30] interested in the planning commission
[15:32] talk. So, just putting that out there.
[15:34] >> Good. That's good. That's good. We're
[15:35] going to need someone,
[15:37] right?
[15:40] >> Have a female perspective.
[15:41] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[15:42] >> If it makes you feel any better, we only
[15:45] run because we don't know what we're
[15:46] getting ourselves into.
[15:48] >> And you don't. [laughter]
[15:51] >> Hey, you guys have any questions for
[15:53] anybody? Any clarification? Like I said,
[15:55] it's always pretty easy. We go. It's
[15:56] know such a small town. I know
[15:58] everybody. But you guys have any
[15:59] questions? You had the applications for
[16:01] a while now.
[16:04] Anything for anybody?
[16:07] >> No. You guys good?
[16:09] >> I'm good.
[16:10] >> So, the next step is just to basically
[16:13] just um just state your vote out loud
[16:16] like mayor Michael Bar and then who you
[16:20] vote for out loud
[16:22] and then
[16:22] >> I thought we got to write it down.
[16:25] >> We don't write down.
[16:27] vote out loud. If we get to drawing by
[16:31] lot if needed. If we don't
[16:33] >> if we don't h if basically we're going
[16:36] to vote among all the qualified
[16:37] candidates each council member's vote is
[16:40] immediately disclosed publicly. If any
[16:42] candidate receives three vote that
[16:44] candidate is appointed and the process
[16:45] begins. Um if no candidate receives
[16:48] three votes then we'll identify the two
[16:49] candidates with the most votes. use the
[16:52] adopted drawing by law procedure only
[16:54] when the vote results do not clearly
[16:56] identify the final two. So
[16:58] >> um and then after that we do um
[17:04] we'll conduct the drawing at the public
[17:05] meeting if needed um and then the second
[17:09] vote if needed is vote between the only the final two candidates.
[17:13] >> Okay.
[17:14] >> Should I start?
[17:16] >> Yep.
[17:17] >> Okay. Well, first of all, I want to
[17:19] thank all those of you who have put your
[17:21] name in the hat. Appreciate when our
[17:23] community steps forward to serve.
[17:26] Sometimes it's a tough job, but it does
[17:28] have a lot of rewards also. So, thank
[17:30] all of you.
[17:31] >> Win
[17:33] [laughter]
[17:33] seen this yet.
[17:36] >> Well,
[17:38] that's my opinion anyway. But, um, well,
[17:42] Lee, I'm simply gonna vote for you
[17:43] because I already got a plaque for me,
[17:45] so I don't have to buy another plaque.
[17:48] You save the stand box.
[17:49] >> Good idea.
[17:51] >> Is that what do we need to do any
[17:53] formality or is that it? That's a vote.
[17:56] >> Just want to make sure.
[17:59] >> I feel he's certainly put his time in on
[18:00] the planning commission will make a
[18:02] great asset.
[18:03] >> Yep. Okay. I'll go next. Um, yeah, this
[18:06] is a tough one. Like I said, this is
[18:08] probably the hardest one we've had to
[18:10] do. And I honestly I appreciate the
[18:13] three of you. I could literally just
[18:15] flip a coin. any three of you would be
[18:17] amazing for this town. Um the tiebreaker
[18:19] in my mind was for me because it was a
[18:22] tough decision was kind of what Kevin
[18:24] just said. Um Lee has put in 10 years on
[18:27] planning commission. He definitely has
[18:29] some experience and he uh has definitely
[18:33] put put his time in. So I'm going to go
[18:35] for Lee.
[18:39] » All right. Um Scott Taylor, I want to
[18:41] thank everyone for putting their name in
[18:44] the hat. Um, it's not an easy thing to
[18:46] do.
[18:48] So, I really appreciate it. Lee, I
[18:49] appreciate your 10 years of service to
[18:51] the city. You got a lot of history
[18:53] behind you. Um,
[18:56] so I really appreciate that. Um, Tanya,
[18:59] thanks for coming and, uh, appreciate
[19:01] your words. Saw your application, the
[19:04] things you submitted. A very capable,
[19:06] very competent person and could easily
[19:09] do the job. Brooke as well, we have very
[19:12] good candidates. Um Lee has put in his
[19:15] time 10 years with the planning
[19:17] commission. So my vote goes to Lee
[19:20] Freish.
[19:23] >> Okay. Do we continue?
[19:27] >> I think we should continue and get
[19:28] Richard's vote.
[19:30] >> I think that's fine.
[19:31] >> Yeah. He needs to put his neck out there
[19:32] like
[19:34] >> this is not a fun thing. I promise you
[19:36] guys.
[19:39] >> Love to hear Richard's.
[19:41] >> It is. It is a tough decision. It really
[19:43] is
[19:44] >> real hard decision.
[19:46] >> Um I'm not going to be a repeat record
[19:48] of what they all said. Thank you Lee for
[19:51] that. Tanya, thank you for applying.
[19:54] Brooke, thank you. I got to go with Lee
[19:56] just because of the experience and he he
[19:59] will fill that seat.
[20:01] >> He's got some brains upstairs. So he's
[20:04] going to help us out. So I vote Lee.
[20:06] >> But but don't go away because
[20:09] always open up down the road. So,
[20:11] >> Brooke, same for you. Tanya, yes, you're
[20:13] gonna have a planning commission spot
[20:15] open now and I'm hoping to talk to both
[20:17] of you and hopefully I want to put your
[20:19] names in like in the hat. So, for sure,
[20:22] >> and it's a great place to start. You
[20:25] learn a lot of the graph work.
[20:26] >> Takes a lot of uh
[20:29] courage and a lot of giving to even put
[20:32] your name in the hat and willingness to
[20:34] do this because it's not fun and you get
[20:36] a lot of criticism. I would say one
[20:38] thing on the planning commission.
[20:40] Bradley is probably the best leader we
[20:42] ever had.
[20:43] >> Good. Thank you. That's good. That's
[20:45] good.
[20:48] [laughter]
[20:53] » Take my hat off to his predecessor too.
[20:55] He was in the office when there was a
[20:57] lot of tough stuff going on. I I can't
[20:59] remember his name right off the top of
[21:00] my head, but I just ran into the other
[21:02] day.
[21:02] >> Oh, Alan.
[21:03] >> Allan. He really did a great job, too.
[21:06] He was here under a lot of duress, man.
[21:08] >> A lot of problems.
[21:09] >> There was a lot of problems, a lot of
[21:10] things going on. So,
[21:13] [laughter]
[21:15] >> so there's no motion. We're good. All
[21:17] right.
[21:18] >> Welcome to the team, Lee. And we'll
[21:20] swear you in. You can come in. Jenna
[21:21] will work that out and you'll be
[21:22] September's meeting. You'll be up here
[21:24] with us.
[21:24] >> Yeah. Your date takes effect August
[21:26] 31st. So, September 1st, you would be
[21:29] appointed to come in and see me if you
[21:31] want before the meeting or what not. or
[21:33] we could do it right before the meeting
[21:34] or at the meeting, whatever work for
[21:36] you.
[21:36] >> Okay, sounds good.
[21:37] >> Thank you.
[21:38] >> All right, we're going to roll into item
[21:39] number eight. Um, open up discussion and
[21:43] action. Item number eight, resolution
[21:44] R-2026-27
[21:47] amending the water conservation plan.
[21:49] So, if you guys had this to look over
[21:52] the reason for this for
[21:53] >> I was overwhelmed.
[21:55] >> Yeah, it's a lot. So, there's what we've
[21:58] done. What I've done to preh propose to
[22:01] you guys is first we get pressure from
[22:04] the state obviously to put some
[22:05] conservation in and I've tried to avoid
[22:07] it as long as possible. I was I think
[22:09] there was two towns cities in all of
[22:11] Utah that had not implemented water
[22:13] conservation. Some looked at that as a
[22:16] bad thing and were thinking that we were
[22:18] incompetent and I took it as a pride
[22:20] that we were able to avoid it this long
[22:22] but I can't avoid it any longer. Um,
[22:25] we're not in strict water u restrict
[22:28] restrictions right now, but this gives
[22:30] us some stages. And what the stages can
[22:32] do uh right now when we have an
[22:34] emergency that I'm trying to text
[22:36] people, this is what I need you guys to
[22:38] do. We're putting on Facebook, it'll be
[22:39] much easier to say we're in stage one,
[22:41] we're in stage two, we have an
[22:42] emergency, we're in stage four. It's
[22:44] going to be posted on the website. No
[22:46] questions. You guys can go right there
[22:47] and say this is where we're at. So stage
[22:51] one is pretty much just normal. There's
[22:53] really no restrictions. a little bit of
[22:54] common sense. Stage two is where I think
[22:57] we are right now and where I will once
[22:59] if this passes that's where we'll put
[23:01] us. Um you guys will have access to
[23:03] that. Not a lot of restrictions, a lot
[23:05] more common sense. Watch us watching
[23:07] construction water. Stage three rolls
[23:09] into a water crisis. Um that would be
[23:12] that you know we got a well down or the
[23:15] aquifers drawn air or something like
[23:18] that. Stage four is the old craft mahoot
[23:22] and that's when we're going to roll into
[23:24] you can't spare a drop of water. There's
[23:26] no outside watering. You're taking
[23:27] showers. You're we're in bad shape.
[23:29] Probably similar what happened out in
[23:31] Cedar. I mean they didn't have a choice.
[23:33] There was no water out there. What that
[23:34] three four years ago? Um very similar to
[23:37] what we just did when I had the wells go
[23:38] down and the aquafers dropped. So
[23:42] the bad news is what comes with that.
[23:45] And I'll explain this as best I can. So,
[23:47] if we have to do this short term's not a
[23:49] problem. If we have to do this long
[23:52] term, if I have to say we're going to be
[23:53] in stage three for the next year and we
[23:56] vote and we say we're going to be in
[23:57] stage three for next year. The issue
[23:59] with that is it doesn't get cheaper to
[24:02] run the water department. I still have
[24:03] to have my water operator. We still have
[24:05] to fix pipes. We have to pay the
[24:07] electrical. We have to do all that. If
[24:09] we cut our water usage in half, what
[24:12] happens? The water department is 100%
[24:15] funded by the water users and the rates.
[24:18] So if we cut the income in half,
[24:21] someone has to pay for that. And I'm
[24:23] sorry to say that's the water users. So
[24:26] it's the kick is not only do we put you
[24:28] in water conservation and say you have
[24:30] to conserve water and use half the
[24:31] amount of water you were using before,
[24:34] now you're going to have to pay a little
[24:35] extra because we don't have enough money
[24:37] because you're conserving water and
[24:38] doing what you're supposed to do. You're
[24:39] going to have to pay a little more. Now,
[24:41] the way I've structured this is it will
[24:42] not hit people that conserve water. The
[24:45] flat rate stays the same. I'm not I
[24:47] don't propose we change that. I propose
[24:49] we're hitting in the upper tiers. So,
[24:51] the people that say I have a business to
[24:54] run or people that say f you or people
[24:56] that do whatever, they're going to pay
[24:58] the difference. Um so, the very first
[25:01] we'll have different this was only for
[25:03] stage three and stage four. We don't
[25:04] need that for stage two. Those are
[25:06] regular water rates and it would only be
[25:08] again longterm. If I'm going to say,
[25:09] "Oh, we're going to put everyone in
[25:11] stage four because we have a well went
[25:12] down and for we're going to be in stage
[25:13] four for a week. We're not implementing
[25:15] that silly." This is for long term.
[25:18] Hopefully, hopefully hopefully it never
[25:19] comes to that, but I want to be prepared
[25:22] um for that. So, that's basically what
[25:25] this is is adding some different stages.
[25:28] Every town has this and other than two
[25:30] of us that didn't have it, um they also
[25:32] have implemented this. So, I didn't
[25:35] reinvent the wheel. Um I'm not that guy.
[25:38] I went to other towns, other cities. I
[25:40] got ideas and I put our own together
[25:41] that applies to us. Um, obviously I
[25:44] don't say no water in the golf courses
[25:46] because we don't have a golf course. So,
[25:48] um, I kind of broke it down to apply to
[25:50] us and
[25:51] >> but but last week you could have been
[25:53] jet skiing over circle if you wanted to.
[25:56] >> Is that [clears throat] the truth? Went
[25:57] from no water to too much water. So,
[25:59] that's what this is. This is just a tool
[26:01] to help us if something goes down and we
[26:03] have emergencies and stuff like that. Do
[26:07] you guys have any questions? I'm sure
[26:08] you read through it. You got questions.
[26:10] >> Whisy's for drinking. Water's for
[26:12] fighting.
[26:13] >> That's right. Ain't that the truth?
[26:14] >> We live in the desert. If you look on a
[26:16] global scale, there's water shortages
[26:18] everywhere in the world right now. We're
[26:20] really going through some serious times.
[26:22] >> Sure.
[26:22] >> So, we really need to be conservative
[26:24] and in [clears throat] and reward your
[26:27] reward for that is we're going to charge
[26:28] you more.
[26:29] >> Yeah. No kidding. Like I said,
[26:31] >> that's the reality.
[26:32] >> Hope nothing ever happens and hope it's
[26:34] not long term.
[26:36] I'm I'm very on top of this. I would say
[26:39] the water is 90% of the mayor's job,
[26:41] unfortunately. So, yes,
[26:44] >> it's 90% of the whole public
[26:46] >> department's job. It really is. Yeah,
[26:47] >> it really is.
[26:48] >> So, any questions you guys down there?
[26:56] » All right, move the motion. Scott Taylor
[26:58] move we approve resolution number
[27:00] R-202026-27
[27:03] amending the water conservations plan.
[27:07] >> Roll call vote.
[27:09] >> I bar.
[27:10] >> Scott Taylor I.
[27:11] >> Richard.
[27:12] >> Motion carries. On to item number nine.
[27:15] Uh open up discussion action for
[27:16] resolution number R-2026-28
[27:19] amending fee schedule with emergency
[27:20] water rates and exhibit A. Basically
[27:22] this is what we just voted on. Now we
[27:24] have to put it on the fee schedule. So
[27:26] that's pretty simple. We did a voter on
[27:27] it,
[27:28] >> but we have to vote to put it on the fee
[27:30] schedule, too. So,
[27:32] >> Scott move we approve resolution number
[27:35] R-202026-28
[27:37] amending fee schedule with emergency
[27:39] water rates and exhibit A.
[27:42] >> Second.
[27:43] >> Roll call vote.
[27:44] >> Kevin s I
[27:45] >> Mike Fer.
[27:46] >> Scott Taylor I
[27:47] >> Richard Palmer I
[27:48] >> motion carries on number 10 resolution
[27:51] number R-2026-29
[27:53] amend title 01.20.03
[27:56] 030 bulk meter. Basically, it's a pretty
[27:59] simple one, too. We are changing the
[28:01] deposit to $2,000 from $1,000 for a bulk
[28:04] meter. And the reason is that is it
[28:06] hasn't been changed forever. And bulk
[28:07] meters don't cost $1,000 anymore.
[28:09] They're $2,000. So, we have to have a
[28:11] deposit to cover our bulk meter in case
[28:13] it gets lost or stolen. We are covered.
[28:16] Um, we put some wording in there. No, I
[28:19] think that was it. Oh, yeah. And then,
[28:20] uh, if your water pipe, let me see, what
[28:22] was this? Okay. If the meter's lost or
[28:24] stolen, we keep your deposit and you
[28:26] have to pay a 100,000 up to 100,000
[28:30] gallons of water usage because if you've
[28:32] lost the meter, we obviously don't know
[28:33] how much water you used.
[28:34] >> I thought you were going to say 100,000
[28:36] cash.
[28:36] >> No, 100,000 gallons of water. 8,000
[28:38] gallons of water. And that's and I know
[28:40] some people be going, "Oh my gosh,
[28:41] that's a lot. That's not a lot when
[28:43] you're dealing with bulk water." Yes,
[28:44] ma'am. Go ahead.
[28:44] >> Just to confirm, we've already changed
[28:46] this. I just noticed in the code section
[28:48] it wasn't uh changed. So, it's we're
[28:51] changing the
[28:51] >> Yes, I should have add that. Thank you.
[28:53] No, it's okay.
[28:55] >> So, we've already voted on this. We just
[28:56] I guess I should have said this is
[28:58] housekeeping. We just sometimes we find
[29:00] other places that it's written that we
[29:01] didn't catch.
[29:03] >> Yes, ma'am.
[29:04] >> On number nine, uh the one on the
[29:08] conservation, number nine, the number
[29:11] eight, actually, I think, um the water
[29:13] conservation plan, doesn't it need to go
[29:16] back to the division of drinking water
[29:17] for approval when you make an amendment
[29:20] to it? Does it have to be approved by
[29:21] them initially?
[29:23] >> I don't know. I'll find out. I don't
[29:25] think so.
[29:28] >> I'll find out
[29:28] >> because like for our Yeah. Like our
[29:30] loans and things that be
[29:32] >> Yeah.
[29:35] >> And it had to go through.
[29:37] >> Okay. Thanks for the reminder. I will
[29:39] find out.
[29:41] >> Wouldn't be hard to do. So, we're
[29:43] perfectly fine doing that. Okay. All
[29:46] right. Back to item number 10. If you
[29:47] guys have any questions, I guess it's
[29:49] just a housekeeping.
[29:51] >> I make a motion we approve resolution
[29:53] number R-202026-29
[29:56] 29 a minute title 01.20.030
[30:01] voltmeters.
[30:02] >> Second.
[30:02] >> Roll call vote.
[30:04] >> Kevin sir I
[30:05] >> Mike Fer.
[30:05] >> Scott Taylor I
[30:06] >> Richard Palmer I
[30:08] >> motion carries. On item number 10
[30:09] ordinance number 0-2026-8
[30:12] revised procurement ordinance.
[30:14] Basically, we have a new employee, uh,
[30:18] her name's Lady K that works for
[30:20] Michelle, and this was one of her
[30:21] projects. We said, "We need you to take
[30:23] our procurement and check it against
[30:26] state laws and get this, uh, procurement
[30:28] policies and ordinances flowing better
[30:30] and just make sure we're state
[30:33] compliant. I think we put some emergency
[30:34] provisions in there." Um,
[30:37] >> yeah, a lot of it was based off of the
[30:39] federal grant that we're getting
[30:41] required to have specific types of
[30:44] government rules and so we needed to
[30:46] have those added into
[30:48] >> That's right. Can you just mention what
[30:51] a couple of those might be?
[30:53] >> Well, we just had to have it like
[30:55] current that we have just was not
[30:58] comprehensive enough basically.
[31:02] >> Yeah, the changes are in green. It's a
[31:04] lot, but it's mainly just wording. I
[31:06] don't really think we changed too many
[31:08] policies. In fact, I don't really think
[31:10] we changed any policies. It was a lot of
[31:11] wording and making sure we were
[31:13] compliant with state guidelines.
[31:14] >> Yes, most of it was just um
[31:17] incorporating like the information that
[31:19] we needed for those and then also
[31:21] creating like the different tiers for
[31:24] specific types of procurement. So
[31:26] whenever we need like a sole source or
[31:28] when we needed to have like um different
[31:31] types of approval then at what stage
[31:33] those approval required and we had also
[31:36] lost some of our policies on the last
[31:38] time they did a procurement change and
[31:40] so we were we're just going through that
[31:42] everything is there that we
[31:45] >> but you're right I forgot the main
[31:46] reason was is because for the grant that
[31:49] some of any of the grants we apply for
[31:51] there this want this and we have one
[31:52] grant that is specifically saying we
[31:54] need to have this in there so That's was
[31:56] the main driving force behind it.
[31:58] >> I make a motion we approve ordinance
[32:00] number 0-2026-18
[32:03] the revised procurement procurement
[32:06] ordinance. That's a tongue twister.
[32:08] >> Roll call vote
[32:09] >> s I.
[32:10] >> Mike for I
[32:13] >> motion carries on item number 12
[32:14] resolution number R-2026-30
[32:17] adoption of administration procurement
[32:19] procedures manual. Now this is the same
[32:20] thing but it's in in the manual right
[32:22] Michelle or
[32:23] >> Yeah. So this one is basically so we
[32:25] don't have to amend enforcements every
[32:27] time and have public hearings and stuff
[32:29] to do. So this one is just kind of like
[32:32] the policies of how we're going to
[32:34] manage it in house and the council just
[32:36] has to approve approve it without public
[32:39] hearing and all that kind of stuff. So
[32:40] it's easier to make changes to um if we
[32:42] find that it's not working for us.
[32:46] >> Sounds good. Any question?
[32:50] » I make a motion. We approve resolution
[32:53] number R-202026-30,
[32:56] the adoption of the administrative
[32:57] procurement procedures manual.
[33:00] >> Second.
[33:01] >> Roll call vote.
[33:02] >> Kevin Sar I.
[33:03] >> Mike Per I.
[33:04] >> Scott Taylor I.
[33:05] >> Richard Palmer I.
[33:06] >> Motion carries. On to consent agenda. Uh
[33:09] we have item number three, the minutes
[33:10] from July 15, 2026, town council hearing
[33:13] meeting. Item number 14, the
[33:14] dispersement listing for July 2026. Item
[33:17] number 15, the budget report for fiscal
[33:18] year 2027 through July 2026. And item
[33:22] number 16, July 2026 water usage
[33:25] comparison. I'm sure you've all looked
[33:27] through it. There was a couple things I
[33:29] wanted to point out just to go on video
[33:31] in case someone looks at this in the
[33:32] future. They don't have to bug me and
[33:34] ask me. If you see a very big expense
[33:36] for cleft drilling and pump, that is
[33:38] obviously when we had our emergency
[33:41] uh wells go down and we paid them
[33:44] $36,910.
[33:46] And also Southwest sells service and
[33:48] pumps $25,795.94.
[33:51] That was also that same emergency for
[33:54] the new pump and motor and all that good
[33:57] stuff. So that's kind of I don't point
[33:59] out all the stuff that's the normal
[34:01] something that's abnormal. I like to
[34:03] point out so I don't get a bunch of
[34:04] calls tomorrow and next week.
[34:05] >> We blew the water budget out right out
[34:08] of the well.
[34:08] >> Blew that one. Yes, sir.
[34:10] >> Dan's work. Dan said he'd work for free
[34:12] for the next five years. help me. It's
[34:14] going to take a while.
[34:18] » The um Utah local government's trust
[34:22] >> that one is because we've had to com
[34:23] we've now combined the the district's
[34:26] insurance rate with the town and societ.
[34:32] » Okay. Same amount just combined, right?
[34:36] >> Any other questions about the I mean the
[34:38] budget just started so there's not a lot
[34:40] of questions. The fiscal year just
[34:41] >> We're looking good so far. Yeah, we're
[34:43] good. We're good so far. One month in
[34:45] and we're doing great.
[34:48] >> Guys want a motion.
[34:51] >> I move we approve the consent agenda 13,
[34:53] 14, 15, and 16.
[34:56] >> All in favor?
[34:58] >> I
[34:58] >> All right, let's do that again because I dropped the ball. All in favor?
[35:01] >> I motion carries. Um, no close session
[35:05] needed. Someone wants a message for
[35:07] >> motion we adjourn.
[35:09] >> Second.
[35:09] >> All in favor?
[35:10] >> I motion carries. Meeting adjourned.