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>> good morning everybody let's get

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started with introductions around the

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room please jeff baker commissioner

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john christopherson county attorneys

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office michelle hallstead county

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attorney's office rhonda fields

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commissioner leslie summey commissioner

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carrie warren gully commissioner kendra

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davis commissioner's office sorry

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jessica campbell commissioner district

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2. Wonderful wonderful and we have

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kathy smith on the line as well. Please

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introduce yourself maam. Good morning

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everyone kathy smith community

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resources. Thank you very very much.

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I'm glad you flagged for that for me

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michelle that's too small for me to

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see. I thought that was you. We are

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here today for a study session on the

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county economic development program.

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I'm going to turn it over to kendra

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davis. Thank you so much commissioner.

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we are here today to give you a little

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bit of context about the existing

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county development program how we've

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chosen to structure that from the

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county. We will also do an

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environmental scan how the county

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structures that and will talk about

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what opportunities might be ahead and

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what the preference of the board is. We

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will also have finance folks joining in

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just a minute. We will go ahead and

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start. This is a general sense of what

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we will be doing to give you a little

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background that background will include

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information you've heard in march of

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this year when you did the economic

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development 101, some of our partners

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will talk about what the account

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currently does partnerships we

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leverage environmental scan of

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neighboring counties opportunities and

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we will go through next steps based on

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the feelings [indiscernible] just a set

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of background, what you talked about

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back in march. Denver south and aurora

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economic development council two of our

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partners presented about some economic

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development foundations. One of the

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things they talked about, divisions and

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objectives gave you a snapshot of what

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arapahoe county looks like from an

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economic perspective. They track our

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employment numbers, some leading

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industries employers this is all

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information kathy's team ad works also

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tracks and they do that in partnership

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with economic development partners. To

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take us even farther back I want to

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highlight objectives of the economic

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development the board identified in

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2021 and 2022. There was a deeper

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conversation about how the board wanted

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to structure current economic

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development functions because there

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isn't a four-man function within the

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county structure. These are some of the

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objectives identified by the board as

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part of that conversation. You will see

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the second enhanced tax base post covid

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is in a position to be involved post

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covid is a relative term. I wanted to

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remind the board that this is a

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conversation the board has had from a

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county perspective. These are some of

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the things that were identified. The

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actions and activities that happens is

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that conversation and 21 and 22 are

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based on these foundational items. We

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can talk about what that approach is.

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first and foremost we leverage the

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excellent work of arapahoe douglas

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works. They have extensive resources

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for businesses and job seekers, these

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are two of the high-level things they

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do that kathy could give you an entire

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study session on that. They are an

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incredible resource for the county and

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for economic development. They also

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help identify talent pipeline concerns,

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specific key target areas for the

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county, areas we have significant

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business or gaps they might see, they

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work with our partners to leverage

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those talents and work with

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universities and colleges to address

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those concerns. The county also

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provides personal property tax

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incentive program on a case-by-case

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basis. I believe you talked about that

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recently. We will also be coming back

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in september with a deeper conversation

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of what that might look like from a

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policy perspective. We will have a

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little bit of information about what

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that currently looks like later in the

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slide. . We also partner with economic

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development organizations across

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multiple focus areas. These areas I

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want to highlight them. These are areas

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that were identified as important

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during the conversation in 2022. The

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board determined these specific

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sections were where they wanted to

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focus their resources. We have economic

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development corporations including

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denver south over economic development

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council. They support job creation

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recruitment, they help identify

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commercial prospects and work with ad

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works for the county pipeline needs.

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we support small business

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development centers. Aurora has a

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denver metro edc. And the eastern

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colorado edc. They help support

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entrepreneurial efforts and small

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business trainings. If you remember

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from last year's presentation, they

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talked about an area of business

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evolution, businesses where folks were

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retiring or transitioning out and

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helping to find a soft landing for that

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business to have to continue

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operations. We support chambers of

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commerce, those folks do a lot of

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community building. , they support

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existing businesses they create

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opportunities to partner and to build

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that foundational network of businesses

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in our community. We support advocacy

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and interest groups, those include

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our i70 reap, a specific group not

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quite a chamber of commerce but has

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specific project areas and is nimble in

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terms of the desires and priorities of

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that agenda.

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>> thank you. This is the sba stuff.

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like the folks that come and present to

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us that do trainings and those types of

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things. Thank you I just wanted to

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highlight within the current strategic

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plan we talked about using this data to

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build out what this looks like. These

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are some of the areas it slots into. It

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we cover [indiscernible] as well as

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prosperity some elements of supporting

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local business building out opportunity

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areas and creating opportunities for

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education those sorts of things those

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are the areas we are trying to leverage

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the partnerships with these different

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areas. Within that, the county has

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specific tools and resources. We talked

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about a couple of them but I want to

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dive deeper on them. See if there are

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questions about what the town currently

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does and highlight ways the county is

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trying to make inroads. Obviously the

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first is arapaho douglas works. If you

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have any questions I will make kathy

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answer them. This is generally a high

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level of what ad works does. You are

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familiar with their operational

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categories and what resource they are

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but they really do a lot in data and

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providing that data to our business

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owners to the economic development

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partners. They talk about economic

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trends and employment. Those trends and

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that data help inform those projects

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and programs they move forward in

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partnership with. There's also the

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south metro enterprise zone. This may

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sound familiar we talked about it a

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little bit there was an opportunity to

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expand the existing zone last year.

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this year last year. The previous zone

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was pretty small. Englewood was the

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manager of that zone. Our long-range

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planning folks saw opportunity in the

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eastern bloc to expand the zone. After

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that there was an opportunity to 10,

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the expansion every 10 years you can

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bring in the existing zone, we pulled

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in all of our partners and cities

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additional counties douglas county as

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part of the enterprise zone as well and

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had some substantive conversations

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about how folks can leverage the zone,

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who was interested in doing that and

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what that looked like. Based on that

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the zone blew up. So it includes parts

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of, sorry, good clarification, not a

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technical term. The enterprise zone

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still exists. Douglas county is part of

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it. We work with parker eastern block,

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our long-range planning partners public

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works did an excellent job of

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identifying areas that were slated back

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for projected growth and existing

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growth they thought were beneficial to

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have a commercial area included in

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that. It's a subset of zone that

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includes sheridan greenwood village

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sections of the county that did not

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participate previously for a variety of

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reasons. It is currently administered

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by the aurora chamber of commerce. They

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have transition from inglewood, they

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are working with the state to identify

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support enterprise zone 1 requests

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these are mostly tax credits folks can

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get as businesses in the enterprise

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zone. There's also an opportunity for

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what are called contribution projects

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which allows big capital projects to

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receive tax credits contributions from

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residents [indiscernible] which is a

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cool opportunity and brought in that

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zone across our county and douglas

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county. There's a lot of opportunity

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here that is new and we are working on

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trying to leverage that with the aurora

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chamber of commerce. The county has a

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tax incentive program. This allows the

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county to offer economic incentives for

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new and expanding businesses. You can

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refund business property tax business

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facility or expansion, the board talked

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about this as a program a couple or two

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years ago I believe. I believe it was

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two years ago. The idea when folks come

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for a potential incentive, they

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bring the benefits to the board. They

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talk about how many jobs they create

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what is the median income, what's the

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capital investment they will be making

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what do they think the impacts of this

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will be in the county. Sometimes that

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can be kind of to borrow another

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official term squishy math, but it is a

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conversation with the board and

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expectation of return on investment.

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currently the county has 10 incentive

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agreements, you can have them for

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specific addresses. There are

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businesses that have [indiscernible]

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$550,000 .

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that's an average over eight

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years or so if the board remembers we

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went back when we came to you two years

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ago this program has evolved a lot over

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the last 10 or 15 years. Over the

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years. It used to be as low as a couple

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thousand dollars. And over the course

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of time has increased to what it

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currently is, which is 550,000.

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businesses there are? I'm unfamiliar

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distributing company. Q ts aurora,

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gemini medical, j.p. Morgan, and

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charter communications.

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>> and, qps, is that the data center?

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the types of businesses. Is it

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aerospace, a range? I know the data

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center is, and I know what the banking

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one, the other topics? If you look at

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aero that is technical manufacturing,

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gemini is a large manufacturer of

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medical products. Typically the

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business personal property tax

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investment works when you have a

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significant lift in the facility

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fixtures furniture and equipment. A lot

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of these companies whether it be qt as

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j.p. Morgan gemini arrow all have made

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a big capital investment inside the

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building which is why they are looking

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for a rebate that's generally right now.

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where most of the current it's a little

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bit more focused on advanced

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manufacturing. Is what I would say.

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>> I remember when charter

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communications came to us, we actually

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extended it because they were adding

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more people if I remember correctly.

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they were adding several hundred new

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people. That is a communications

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company. It's kind of a spattering. I

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guess I thought it was mostly finance.

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if I may jump in kendra, the take away

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for us as we work really closely. You

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can see this is not like everyone gets

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a card. It's not a [indiscernible]

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environment. [indiscernible]but I would

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say our economic development partners

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both aurora and denver south do a good

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job of vetting these requests on our

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behalf. So when they come to you they

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are doing the background work and

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making their professional

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recommendation on the level of

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investment and what it will bring to

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the county as kendra said a couple

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years ago because of our uncertainty

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and our financial situation prior to

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the passage of 1a, you put a pause on

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these things globally. So we are

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starting to see more come through as

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obviously the investments continue to

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grow.

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>> I would like to see I'm not sure

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kathy has this because it says on one

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of the slides we are keeping track of

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trends. I would like to understand the

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demographics of those agreements in

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reference to who they are hiring, and

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where they are coming from. Because

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when I think about district 5 and that

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population, many of the areas are

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boarded up. And there's no really

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pathway at this point for companies

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that come into that area because they

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don't have the richness of the dirt you

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refine in the unincorporated parts of

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aurora. So when we are thinking about

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incentive I'm hoping at some point we

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look at and I don't know this is a

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partnership with aurora city, but

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everything is being developed out

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south. So transportation becomes an

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issue, in reference if we want to see

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the folks get jobs, how will they get

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their lower rtd or light rail is not a

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viable option for many of these

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agreements or businesses

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>> I don't know if we have that data,

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kathy maybe you do? It's not random.

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kathy you can't put your hand up.

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[indiscernible] go ahead

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>> thank you commissioner. I wanted to

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say we definitely can get data related

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to districts rates demographics those

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kinds of things. Unfortunately I can't

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speak to every business and the

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demographics of who they are hiring him

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from what district. With that said, if

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we have a specific ask we can work with

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businesses in certain areas to see what

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information we could get statistically.

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but yes we definitely can get you some

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dead demographic information related to

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your district, related to employment

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rates education levels demographics

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that way. But I don't know if that's

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what you're looking for?

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>> that would be helpful the reason I

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bring it up is because I know how much

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time when I think we want to house

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people we want to eventually get them a

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job to get them in a situation they can

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be self-sufficient. We are trying some

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of these initiatives to getting some

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people not just off the street into a

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house temporary housing, but how can we

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align these initiatives when we are

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really giving them a job, eventually

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giving them housing. We are not just

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housing homeless people.

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>> commissioner, that's probably a

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separate conversation for economic

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development items. That is the goal of

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our housing stability services creating

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housing stability plan, getting people

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referred to arapahoe douglas works.

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that is our goal with the services we

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implemented with our housing stability

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services. Making sure people have the

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economic stability and mobility, not

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just getting them into anything

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temporary. We agree completely

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>> I think to the comment you made

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about how this relates to incentives or

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what date of these companies are

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reporting back on, that would go to the

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incentive policy conversation, what

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would you do about wage ranges hiring

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groups, some of the demographic data we

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can ask them to provide. That's a great

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flag and we will make a note of that

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when we bring back the incentives as

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well. Commissioner warren gully

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>> thank you I'm glad you brought that

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up commissioner fields. This is kind of

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our current state, right? What you are

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talking about is something I think many

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people, many of us have an interest in,

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what other types of incentives. I'm

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thinking about I can't remember the

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name of the gosh darn grocery store

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group that came in. Remember one of the

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things we actually put in place was you

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had to put one of your stores in a

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designated food desert that our staff

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came up with. So I think those are all

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really important conversations about

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forward thinking, do we have other

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types of things that we ask of our

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businesses when they come into our

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community.

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>> it would be great to have a list so

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I can kind of see. Make sure we are

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asking and putting in place the right

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[indiscernible]. One of the things

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moving forward would be childcare. If

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we are building some of these big

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companies, they could have child care.

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I don't know what the list is but if we

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have an opportunity to influence

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incentives to make sure it helps people

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keep their jobs.

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>> yes, I think of even union

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representation in some of these large

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scale projects. There's a whole host of

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things we could somewhat explored that

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I think other organizations do have as

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part of this conversation it's probably

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a lot bigger than this conversation

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>> right. And I understand this is

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passed but looking ahead

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[indiscernible]. It's really hard and

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the middle class is shrinking. We have

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to be mindful of that as we create

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these opportunities across arapahoe

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county. Feeding that pipeline and

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bringing people up.

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>> I do want to say that, skipping to

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the end of the slide, I do want to say

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those are the conversations we are

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hoping to spark through this

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presentation, what are we looking to

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get to and how can we bring new

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information that would be helpful, in a

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structure that would be beneficial. I

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wanted to mention revitalization areas

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because the county has designated

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revitalization areas. This is not

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something we control but something that

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is helpful to folks for homeownership

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opportunities. There is a calculation

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that hud creates that designates these

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areas, areas where there are additional

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opportunity for folks in homeownership.

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wanted to flag that those exist in the

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following areas in arapahoe county. We

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can certainly [indiscernible] of these

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spaces and navigating how to support

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folks in that. That's what the county

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does. Currently that's what the county

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program looks like, that's how we

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operate. The list of cities is

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interesting.

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>> hud has a list..... [indiscernible]

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hud has a list, there may be specific

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areas within those cities, it's not

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necessarily the whole city itself.

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>> now we are going to transition

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[laughter] I love my district. I love

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district 2.

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>> that's how the county structures at

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a high level economic development

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program. We wanted to talk about how

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other countries do that. We did not

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talk about cities because cities are a

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different animal they have different

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opportunities to help support and

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regulate economic development element

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than counties do. Counties are very

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regulated in that area [indiscernible]

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and we will go through that. This is a

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list of things we looked at with other

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counties so we can identify that for

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you. Adams county has a robust economic

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development department, it's mostly

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internal, combined with their community

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development community and economic

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development department. As you can see

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the budget is [indiscernible] but it

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includes all those different areas.

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like grants and different things

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flowing through? Permits. It has a lot

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of different elements, they combine

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them into one office. Six of the staff

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are dedicated to economic development.

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they have a team of six people specific

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to economic development. What that

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means to them is different than what

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the county does but generally that is

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doing the work we leverage with our

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partners. They have about $6 million

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specific to economic development. 1

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million is membership. The way we

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leverage our partners [indiscernible]

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they have a different resource for

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that. That is about $1 million in

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memberships. They also provide

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incentives and have a formal incentive

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policy. They created a county

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revitalization authority something the

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state recently approved that counties

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can do, a ura for cities. It allows you

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to leverage certain areas. I believe

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counties can do that specifically for

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all unincorporated areas. And you can

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narrow down what that looks like.

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that's what adams county has done, they

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created an authority in that

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revitalization authority is there board

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of directors or commissioners.

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>> the board of revitalization

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authority are the five county

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commissioners? Correct that

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responsibility can also be delegated.

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they also leverage the adams county

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regional partnership, as well as

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[indiscernible]. We are starting with a

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very robust broad program.

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>> a quick question michelle this is

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for you. $1 million in memberships. Is

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that, what membership would require

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that accumulation of funds? Do you have

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a sense? How much goes to the a-list

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sponsorship? They sponsor accelerate,

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they do the a-list [indiscernible] I

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had tickets to [indiscernible]. I think

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similar at a smaller scale we support a

556
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:07,201
lot of different chambers. I think they

557
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:12,100
augment that. I have not dove into

558
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,100
specifically what they give to aurora

559
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:19,401
edc or to acrup. We don't see that. I

560
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,100
can tell you just because I talk to the

561
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,601
edcs, whether it's denver south or

562
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,100
aurora, other people make more

563
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,100
significant investments than we have

564
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,100
historically done we've been very flat

565
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,100
because of our budget situation. As you

566
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:46,100
look at this and it gives you food for

567
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:47,100
thought, as we transition over the next

568
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,100
couple years there's opportunity to

569
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:51,100
have conversations about what do you

570
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,100
get for the level of investment. I'm

571
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,100
proud of the board a couple years ago

572
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:59,801
in 20 and 21 made that shift to look at

573
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,100
what are we getting for $50,000

574
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,100
investment at the aurora chamber and

575
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,100
how do we track that. We haven't done

576
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:10,801
that in the past. I can't speak, they

577
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,100
put a lot more into those third-party

578
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:18,100
groups and we do. I don't know what the

579
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,100
return on investment is that we could

580
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:21,100
look into that down the road. As we go

581
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,100
through these examples you will see a

582
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,601
lot of diversity, other counties put

583
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:31,201
not dissimilar amount of money into one

584
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
organization.

585
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,100
>> what I like about the investments we

586
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,100
are making, I haven't had a chance to

587
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,100
look at the organizations we support. A

588
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,601
lot of them are not big-box

589
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,401
organizations. [indiscernible] we do

590
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,100
invest in I would say neighborhood type

591
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,100
organizations really doing a lot of the

592
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:59,201
work in the community as well as

593
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,100
supporting aurora chamber and others I

594
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:08,401
was pleased when I saw the list. I saw

595
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,100
some names I did not think would make

596
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:12,100
it

597
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:13,100
>> [indiscernible] that's a good one. I

598
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:16,601
want to say from the administrative

599
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:18,100
perspective, the way we talk about

600
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,401
economic development partnerships, we

601
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:24,100
talk about it in terms of memberships

602
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,100
with organizations. The list attached

603
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:28,601
to your report includes memberships. We

604
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,100
also maintain a list of sponsorships

605
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,100
for specific events and other

606
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:35,100
investments but we have not

607
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,401
historically bundled as development.

608
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,100
but that may be something wrong we say

609
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,100
memberships to adams county maybe that

610
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:48,100
means sponsorship elements as well.

611
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,100
[indiscernible] boulder county we will

612
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,201
swing to the other side of the

613
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
pendulum. Boulder county is not

614
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,100
dissimilar from her office. They do not

615
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:04,100
have dedicated staff within the

616
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,100
organization. The county

617
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,100
administrator's office supports efforts

618
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:10,100
and coordinates with the external

619
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,401
partners. They submit about 180,000,

620
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,100
that may be different those 24

621
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:19,601
numbers, to fund eight or nine

622
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:21,100
organizations. They leverage boulder

623
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,100
economic council to provide external

624
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
support. They do not do any tax

625
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,100
incentives or business retention

626
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:30,100
support as an organization. Any of that

627
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,601
work happens external to them. They

628
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:37,100
also do not have a lot of

629
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,100
unincorporated areas, most of their

630
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:40,100
unincorporated areas are

631
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:43,100
[indiscernible], not an option to

632
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:49,100
leverage. That's interesting

633
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:50,100
>> commissioner baker

634
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,100
>> university of colorado that's all I

635
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:55,801
want to say. That has an impact on

636
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,401
boulder. Huge. Very different

637
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:01,401
structure. Very different priorities.

638
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:08,100
douglas county has very limited

639
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,100
dedicated staff, they have leverage the

640
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,401
internal staff historically, not

641
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:17,201
dedicated but similar to how we could

642
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,100
do it. Recently they have chosen to use

643
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,100
external support from the douglas

644
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,100
county economic development

645
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,100
corporation. In 2025 they committed

646
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,100
almost $1 million to the edc for that

647
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,601
work. That includes all of their

648
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
incentive programs, all of the work we

649
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:43,201
leverage our partners to do. They also

650
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,100
have a community development department

651
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:46,100
that provides that business support,

652
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:49,601
and they have a dedicated business

653
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,100
coordinator. That person works with

654
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100
businesses to go through the licenses

655
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,100
and permits that sort of thing and

656
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:01,601
helps the staff with that. They

657
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,100
launched a childcare tax incentive

658
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:07,100
program in 2026 as well as a county

659
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,100
revitalization authority. They

660
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:11,601
delegated that responsibility to the dc

661
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:17,100
edc, another option for consideration

662
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:18,100
and they also launched in 2025 a

663
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:22,201
red tape reduction task force. Just a

664
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,100
group across the county dedicated to

665
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,100
reducing regulatory burden on

666
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,401
commercial and industrial development.

667
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,401
douglas county [indiscernible]. They

668
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:38,100
have some tools they have implemented

669
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,100
in douglas county that may be

670
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,100
interesting to the board. Jefferson

671
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:46,601
county has limited internal staff, they

672
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,401
leverage the economic development

673
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,100
corporation. They created an economic

674
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,100
development planner position in their

675
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,100
own structure, that supports contracts

676
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,100
with cities metro and special districts

677
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:05,601
and coordinates with the edc. They

678
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,100
commit about 260,000 in 2026 to

679
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,100
economic development efforts. They have

680
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,100
an emphasis on supporting ura

681
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,100
development. And all the incentives go

682
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:24,201
through the jc edc. Larimer county has

683
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:29,100
a different structure, all internal

684
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:35,801
support. It is braided with a lot of

685
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,100
money but it is primarily

686
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:42,100
[indiscernible]. They have six staff

687
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:45,100
focused primarily on workforce. The

688
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,100
economic development functions are from

689
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,100
my understanding not the primary

690
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,601
function of the office, they are

691
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,100
secondary to workforce I should not say

692
00:34:58,100 --> 00:34:59,100
secondary I should say braided with

693
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:03,801
workforce in a way we don't do. They

694
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:06,100
have a contract with weld county for

695
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:09,100
broader economic development. They also

696
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,100
use consultants for incentives that

697
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,100
come before them. Commissioner warren

698
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,100
gully

699
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,100
>> thank you madam chair. Kendra, to be

700
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,100
clear, the 8.1, are they putting 8.1

701
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:27,201
million in their? Or are they utilizing

702
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,100
some of their workforce funds to do

703
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,601
economic development stuff? My guess is

704
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,100
the latter. I don't have a breakdown of

705
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:44,100
how much of that is specific coming

706
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:48,100
from the general fund. My guess is not

707
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:52,100
very much. I was not aware they could

708
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,100
spend.... Workforce dollars that way

709
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:57,201
but maybe they don't, maybe they are

710
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,100
just saying workforce creates economic

711
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,100
opportunity? I don't know how they

712
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:07,201
structure these funds. I just know they

713
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,100
are combined. Okay thank you I

714
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,100
appreciate that

715
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,100
>> those are the counties we looked at.

716
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,601
structure is all a little different,

717
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:20,100
definitely identifying opportunities

718
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:24,201
the board could look up further. This

719
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,100
is a list of some of those

720
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,100
opportunities the board may want to

721
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,100
look into. This is certainly not a

722
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,201
recommendation or any sort of staff is

723
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:40,100
just identifying things other counties

724
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,100
do. We want to make sure you are aware

725
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:46,100
of additional tools in the toolbox if

726
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:49,100
you want to look into those. Our idea

727
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,100
would be if you identify some of these

728
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,100
areas of interest, we could come back

729
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:54,100
to you with what that might look like

730
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:58,801
in our county, what kind of effort it

731
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:01,100
might need additional resources the

732
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,601
county might need to launch something

733
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,100
like that. And the board could have a

734
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,100
conversation about what that looks

735
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:13,100
like

736
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,100
>> I would just say I think we've heard

737
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:15,100
throughout the last year the incentive

738
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,100
payment agreement structure is

739
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,100
paramount of importance. We are moving

740
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:20,100
forward. We will be bringing that back

741
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,100
to you after recess. I think the other

742
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,601
ones are certainly things, there's no

743
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,100
timeline on any of these and some of

744
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,100
these things you have talked about in

745
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,100
other spaces. I think this is just an

746
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,100
awareness of what people do that you

747
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:40,100
could have us explore further with a

748
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,601
shared group of people across the

749
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,100
county. Commissioner warren gully

750
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:49,601
>> thank you madam chair. I can't

751
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
remember, what is the benefit of a

752
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:55,100
county revitalization authority? It's a

753
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,100
65 page bill.

754
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:03,801
>> it's a good read. I don't want to

755
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,100
get out of my space, I will let

756
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:11,201
michelle chime in I'm certainly not an

757
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,100
expert. I think it allows the county to

758
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:19,100
create goals and opportunities for

759
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,100
incentives within a specific geographic

760
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:27,100
area to help leverage the business in

761
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,100
that area. It is not dissimilar from

762
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:31,601
the urban renewal. Think about tax

763
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,100
increment financing, leveraging

764
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,100
property taxes to build infrastructure

765
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:43,201
for a specific area. Jason is nodding

766
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,100
his head, I'm glad I remember the 65

767
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:51,100
page summary. It is a newer tool in the

768
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,100
toolbox. Understanding how you would

769
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:56,801
use it where you would use it, what

770
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:58,100
makes sense, is something that could be

771
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,100
explored down the road. It's a newer

772
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:04,100
tool for counties akin to the urban

773
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:07,601
renewal. For counties version of urban

774
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:11,100
renewal. We identify an area for

775
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,100
example commissioner fields

776
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,100
conversation, if there is an area we

777
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:18,100
want to tag? I don't remember the bill,

778
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:21,100
do you remember the bill?

779
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,100
[indiscernible] I know jason has looked

780
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:35,100
at it this at the 30,000 foot level

781
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,100
>> very broad strokes because it has

782
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:37,100
been quite a while since I've looked at

783
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:38,100
the details. There's two components to

784
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,100
a county revitalization authority. The

785
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:44,201
first step is for the county to

786
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,100
establish it, take action to say there

787
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,100
is a county revitalization authority

788
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:51,100
and is applicable in these areas of the

789
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,601
county. Adams county has taken that

790
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100
step. They adopted resolution saying we

791
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:01,100
have a county revitalization authority,

792
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,100
and it may have been anywhere in

793
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,100
unincorporated adams county. The second

794
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:12,100
step is a more detailed process to

795
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,100
focus on a specific area and develop a

796
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:17,201
plan for that area. My understanding is

797
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,100
that adams county is currently doing

798
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:23,601
that for an unincorporated area near

799
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,100
commerce city. As ms. Hallstead

800
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:31,100
mentioned the tax increment financing

801
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,100
is one of the tools committees can

802
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:36,100
bring to the county revitalization

803
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,100
authority.

804
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,100
>> thank you jason

805
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,100
>> commissioner campbell

806
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:50,801
>> I can hit some of the things it

807
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,100
touches on. Area that upon

808
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,100
implementation of the county

809
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,100
revitalization plan substantially

810
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,100
promote sound growth of the county

811
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:03,100
economic social conditions and furthers

812
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,100
health safety well-being of the public

813
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,100
by the actualization of one of the

814
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,401
following opportunity factors. It

815
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:09,100
creates opportunities for investing in

816
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,401
infrastructure water sanitary sewer,

817
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,100
improvement of mobility increased

818
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,100
access to transportation development of

819
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:21,100
affordable housing economic opportunity

820
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,100
job creation growth expansion to

821
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,100
healthy food system community medical

822
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,100
system public parks enhancement of

823
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,100
safe reliable transportation

824
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,401
remediation contamination of water,

825
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,100
clearance abatement rehab of

826
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,100
structurally unsound former landfills

827
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,401
urban level development in

828
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:50,100
unincorporated areas. Thank you.

829
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:54,801
>> I would be remiss I'm glad jason is

830
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:01,100
here, I'd be remiss in not highlighting

831
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:02,100
kathy and jason have both been key

832
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:03,100
partners in this conversation because

833
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,100
the county has a economic development

834
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:06,100
function. Both of them do excellent

835
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:10,201
work trying to gather the tools at

836
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100
their disposal. Jason's team look up

837
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:13,100
the eastern plains and how we can

838
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,100
support those areas in economic

839
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,100
development. Commissioner fields

840
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:24,100
>> you mentioned there may be some

841
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,601
challenges when dealing with the city.

842
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:33,100
I can tell you what I've seen is great

843
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,100
partnership with community resources

844
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:35,100
that suit relates to the housing

845
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:38,100
authority and city of auroras

846
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:43,100
opportunity. I'd like to suggest we

847
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:47,801
continue to use that lens to reach that

848
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:50,100
communities where there's been no

849
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:51,100
investment in some communities which

850
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:55,201
happens to be in urban areas for

851
00:42:58,100 --> 00:42:59,100
decades. So, if there is an opportunity

852
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,100
to take a look through partnership to

853
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,601
address that, it would be good.

854
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,100
>> commissioner baker

855
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:14,801
>> sorry, it may be for jason. We have

856
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
done the economic zone that we took,

857
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:24,100
did not take but worked with inglewood

858
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:28,801
and got aurora chamber to take that on.

859
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:33,601
does an economic zone preclude a

860
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:39,100
revitalization authority? Or can they

861
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:43,201
be overlapped? Okay. I wanted to make

862
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,100
sure

863
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:56,100
>> I do want to say it would be helpful

864
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,100
if the board had specific tools here

865
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,100
they want to identify they are

866
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:59,100
interested in getting information. We'd

867
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
love to think about how that comes back

868
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,100
to you.

869
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:05,100
>> commissioner. Thank you madam chair.

870
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,801
okay, so, ya, I'm having a hard time

871
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,100
consolidating all of my thoughts.

872
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:22,601
looking at this list, obviously we

873
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,401
talked about incentive payment

874
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:30,100
agreement structure. One thing I think

875
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,100
would be helpful also is understanding,

876
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:35,100
getting a broader lens, like scope of

877
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,100
how much land we have available to be

878
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,401
developed in unincorporated areas.

879
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:45,201
where they are because when we think

880
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:53,100
about commodities, which land is, the

881
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,601
scarcity and limitation, are we running

882
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:00,100
out of land where is the land how is it

883
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:04,100
zoned how do we think about that? Where

884
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,100
does that fit within our own their

885
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,100
comprehensive plans? So we know how

886
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:13,100
strict we can be. If we are starting to

887
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:14,100
run out of land especially in dove

888
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,100
valley and other areas, we can be much

889
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,100
more strict about what we have. Whereas

890
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:25,801
maybe in district 3 it's at this but I

891
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,100
also think developable areas in urban

892
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:36,100
areas or suburban whatever the

893
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:39,100
centennial that bridge between all the

894
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,100
things, sustainability goals and how

895
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,100
strict we want to be around those, as

896
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:45,601
wells to what commissioner fields was

897
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,100
saying, it would be great to know what

898
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:51,201
we can require. So, childcare, so that

899
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:58,100
incentive agreement is important to me.

900
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:02,100
also and I will say as a broader tool,

901
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:03,100
I think it would be informative when

902
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,601
looking at that, is being very

903
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:10,601
strategic in our local economy, and

904
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:15,100
diversifying the industries that are

905
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,601
here. While aerospace is great, we've

906
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:24,100
got a really strong connection between

907
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:25,100
primary employers and the satellite

908
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:28,601
companies that go around to supply

909
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:41,100
that. I don't want us to get to have

910
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:42,100
[indiscernible] making

911
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,100
sure we have a diverse portfolio with

912
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,100
an accounting of industries and saying

913
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:45,100
does that support also in getting with

914
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,601
our community colleges or schools. Do

915
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:50,100
we have that talent pipeline and

916
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,100
creating that relationship. I'm seeing

917
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:56,201
a whole [indiscernible] of it. I think

918
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:00,100
affordable housing policies and

919
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,100
incentives we've been working on that.

920
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:06,201
what more can we do. Childcare property

921
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:10,100
tax incentive program could be

922
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,601
interesting. I'm open to the county

923
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:19,100
revitalization authority but I think we

924
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:23,100
need to sort of feel that a little bit.

925
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:24,100
internal staffing, I think that is a

926
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:26,100
conversation we need to have. We've

927
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:31,100
been having it but it feels a lot like

928
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,401
the economic community development

929
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:39,601
perspective that adams has taken is

930
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:43,100
all-in-one. Economic development

931
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:44,100
programs yes we need to talk about that

932
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,100
permitting review process I did write

933
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,100
down, I remember in our conversation

934
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,601
with denver south, talking about what

935
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:55,601
is helpful to developers and people

936
00:47:58,100 --> 00:47:59,100
coming in. It's clarity and consistency

937
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:00,100
on land development, development

938
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:03,100
processes. Thinking about that from

939
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:08,601
that development process of kind of

940
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:12,100
fostering and I know we've been talking

941
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:14,100
about some of that but just the clarity

942
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:17,601
around it timelines and how we

943
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:23,100
communicate that. One of the things I

944
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,100
like about adams county website that

945
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:28,801
has all the portions on there. So maybe

946
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:30,100
even part of what we do because of the

947
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:32,401
economic development opportunities are

948
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:39,100
distributed, may be part of what we do

949
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,100
is pull it together on a website and

950
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
just go look for the information and

951
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,100
find these things and it's all located,

952
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:45,100
we have a hub for access. And we kind

953
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:47,100
of start thereby organizing the

954
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,601
information. One thing I find whole

955
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:04,100
areas is like that douglas county and

956
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,100
ma I said remove requirements for small

957
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,401
locally owned businesses. Douglas

958
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:12,100
county took the commercial industrial

959
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:17,100
route. But your margin of error with a

960
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,100
small business is [indiscernible] I

961
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:22,201
think it was the mandani example was

962
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:25,100
restaurants had to get a supple permit

963
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:29,201
to serve ice cream or something. If

964
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:34,100
there is stuff in public health or

965
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,100
building and things we are doing that

966
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,100
either we need to communicate with

967
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:37,100
people ahead of time. I know public

968
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:41,100
health does a lot of education. What

969
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:45,100
are we doing that is more that needs to

970
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,100
be done. I know the county has always

971
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:48,100
resisted over regulating because to

972
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:51,100
what commissioners said the nancy

973
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:55,100
approach or I think you talked about

974
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,100
that commissioner warren gully. If you

975
00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:02,401
do a thing are you going to enforce it.

976
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,100
we've always been reticent to

977
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,100
[indiscernible] so maybe we don't have

978
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:09,100
extra stuff like that but maybe things

979
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,100
get through that don't make sense

980
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:14,201
anymore. I also, the objectives on page

981
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:17,100
four, really interesting conversation

982
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:20,601
for us to have, either strategic

983
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:24,601
retreat or some other time study

984
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,100
session, when we look at creating a

985
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:34,100
sustainable economy. Is not just

986
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,100
primary employer it's also bottom-up

987
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:38,100
that's not really reflected explicitly

988
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:42,201
in the objectives, in our approach it

989
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100
is but I think going bottom-up and

990
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:51,601
having that whole pipeline that is

991
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:54,401
encouraging small locally owned

992
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:57,100
independent businesses, for every

993
00:50:57,100 --> 00:51:01,201
hundred dollars spent at a local loan

994
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:03,100
business, somewhere between 48 and $75

995
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:05,100
stays in the local economy. If you shop

996
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,601
at your target it's 15 bucks. Those

997
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:13,801
kind of things and pulling a bunch of

998
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:16,100
pieces together. I also wrote down

999
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:17,100
focus only using locally owned

1000
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,601
businesses as county lenders. There are

1001
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,401
different things for procurement

1002
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,100
[indiscernible]. How you spaced that up

1003
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,100
unbundling larger contracts. Anyway I

1004
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:39,801
have a lot of different ideas. I think

1005
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:47,100
for me it's about going where do we get

1006
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:51,201
bang for our buck and what's the

1007
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:53,100
easiest gets first and timing our work

1008
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:58,401
out as we flush out the system. If meet

1009
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,100
internal need internal staff,

1010
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:09,100
[indiscernible] the thing I get nervous

1011
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,100
about with the tax incentive program is

1012
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,100
like edc and denver south are doing

1013
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:16,401
their job to bring people in and how I

1014
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:25,100
guess we really need to define it if

1015
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:26,100
we're not going to be proactive

1016
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:27,100
ourselves and I don't think we need to

1017
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,100
on that but we need a clear definition

1018
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:29,100
of moving forward and all of that. I

1019
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:32,100
have a lot of thoughts.

1020
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:39,100
[indiscernible]

1021
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,100
>> commissioner warren gully

1022
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:44,801
>> thank you madam chair. I think it is

1023
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:48,100
hard to have this conversation because

1024
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:51,601
of what commissioner campbell just laid

1025
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:55,100
out. We all touch into these worlds

1026
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,100
because of the work we do on different

1027
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:01,100
boards and chambers and economic

1028
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,100
development folks. I know commissioner

1029
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
baker is out there are in his community

1030
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,100
trying to advocate for the rural side.

1031
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:12,100
when I think about this, what I need

1032
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:16,100
your help with kendra is, is there a way

1033
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:21,401
we could say for the next five years we

1034
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:29,100
really want to incentivize childcare

1035
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,100
opportunities and affordable housing.

1036
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:35,201
that's really our goal. How do we

1037
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:40,100
structure our incentives around asking

1038
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:43,601
partners and businesses coming into our

1039
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,100
community. How are you going to do this

1040
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:53,100
or do we want to look at, I know at one

1041
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:54,100
time jason and his team did go through

1042
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:58,100
online and figure out where are areas

1043
00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:00,100
in unincorporated arapahoe county

1044
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:03,100
mostly within cities. Like commissioner

1045
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:08,100
summey, and my little pockets of these

1046
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:12,100
funky little areas. Are there areas we

1047
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:16,100
really want to specifically say this is

1048
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:19,100
an area we want affordable housing or

1049
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:21,401
senior housing or non-apartment

1050
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:27,601
housing. Those kinds of things. Then

1051
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:35,100
that kind of gives us the opportunity

1052
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:36,100
to say, this is the kind of development

1053
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:40,100
we are looking for, versus just whoever

1054
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:44,100
belongs to that area. I don't know if

1055
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:47,100
that's really possible, or whether we

1056
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:51,100
can utilize these tools to do that. I

1057
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:54,601
look at the childcare property tax

1058
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:57,100
incentive program that I've chatted

1059
00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,601
about with our early childhood folks,

1060
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:03,100
that's probably not going to

1061
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:05,401
incentivize the small mom-and-pop

1062
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:07,100
groups, which is the majority of people

1063
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:10,601
in our area. It's these large-scale

1064
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:15,100
childcare centers. They are important,

1065
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:23,100
too, but would I rather have some kind

1066
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:24,100
of incentive that supports the

1067
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,601
employees that work there? It's so

1068
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:30,100
broad that I wonder if it's more

1069
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:33,601
beneficial to start thinking about in

1070
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:35,100
the next 3 to 5 years what do we want

1071
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:38,100
to focus on. The following 3 to 5 years

1072
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:41,601
to commissioner campbell point, we want

1073
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:45,100
to diversify the types of businesses we

1074
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:48,100
are going to incentivize. That's kind

1075
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:51,100
of where my brain has been trying to

1076
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:56,100
hone it in a little bit. That may not

1077
00:55:56,100 --> 00:56:01,401
just be how this world works and I get

1078
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,100
that . I think there's an opportunity

1079
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
bring up a great plan and that's why

1080
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:09,201
the plan program structure is on there.

1081
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:12,100
. There's an opportunity to scope out

1082
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:13,100
where you would like to make

1083
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:14,100
investments certainly economic

1084
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:15,100
development tools, you don't always see

1085
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,100
the results immediately. You kind of

1086
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:20,100
have to build it in. I think it could

1087
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:24,100
be something we talked to our partners

1088
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:25,100
with. They are the ones recruiting

1089
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:26,100
these people they understand how that

1090
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:30,201
works. If that's not a function, it's

1091
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:33,100
not a way the world works, they will

1092
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:37,100
tell us I'm sure. There is an

1093
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:40,601
opportunity if you would like to

1094
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,100
identify priorities, we can build out

1095
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:51,100
the program or structure that says if

1096
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,100
you want to focus on x, y, and z in the

1097
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,100
next 3 to 5 years this is what you

1098
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,100
should do this is how we could

1099
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:55,100
potentially build it in. If you want to

1100
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:57,100
transition you could swap it out for

1101
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:58,100
something else. Maybe we could build

1102
00:56:58,100 --> 00:56:59,100
out an idea of what kind of resources

1103
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:00,100
would be required to do that. Certainly

1104
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:02,100
we don't want to give you a plan that

1105
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:07,100
you can't do. What does it look like to

1106
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:08,100
make investments and what does the

1107
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:11,100
county need to do that.

1108
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:15,601
>> I guess I'm thinking like shape

1109
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:17,100
properties, I think it was just that

1110
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:21,100
redesign and office space. We all know

1111
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:25,201
how extremely expensive that is to do.

1112
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,100
I have heard from our colleagues

1113
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:34,801
there's a lot of empty office space. I

1114
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:37,100
like your idea of maybe talking in that

1115
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,100
manner with some of our development

1116
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:42,100
folks or our partners to see what do

1117
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:46,201
they see out there. What are business

1118
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:51,100
employers saying, we are not coming to

1119
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:55,801
arapahoe county because of x. I guess I

1120
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,100
would just want to say that some of the

1121
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:59,100
things our partners do relative to

1122
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,100
incentives attraction retention are

1123
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:05,100
really specific and unique. Some of the

1124
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:08,601
things you have talked about broadening

1125
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:13,100
the ecosystem are also things that are

1126
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:14,100
conversations with directors and

1127
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:17,100
strategic planning and strategic work

1128
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:22,100
plan. What are those tangible things we

1129
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:23,100
are going to make investments in to

1130
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,100
achieve an outcome. It may not be an

1131
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,100
economic development thing. But it

1132
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:32,100
definitely supports the ecosystem. I

1133
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:36,801
think there is some of these things are

1134
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:40,100
super like permitting and review his

1135
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,100
super strategic that absolutely helps

1136
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,601
our business community all the way

1137
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:46,100
around. What level of investment would

1138
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:49,100
you want to put on that effort relative

1139
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:50,100
to some other things that might not

1140
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:55,401
rise to the top. I think there is some

1141
00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,100
prioritization and strategy within the

1142
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:00,100
board and county about what are things

1143
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:01,100
you can move forward. I know we are

1144
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:05,100
doing a lot on housing. But I do think

1145
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:07,100
you have to have intentionality as

1146
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:10,100
well, where do you want to see that

1147
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:13,601
vision. And which tools what levers,

1148
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:17,100
they are not all economic development

1149
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:18,100
but there is some policy decisions and

1150
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:20,100
investments he can make that can and

1151
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:24,801
sent those kinds of things to happen. I

1152
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:28,100
want to pull it back just a because

1153
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:30,401
it's all good stuff.

1154
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:37,100
>> arapahoe county is a county that is

1155
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:40,100
rich for many opportunities for

1156
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:41,100
economic development. We see that

1157
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:42,100
people want to do business in arapahoe

1158
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:46,801
county. Some of it is going to require

1159
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:51,201
us to make sure these companies that

1160
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:53,100
come in, if there's a value that

1161
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:55,100
relates to responsibility to the

1162
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:59,201
community, it can't just be about their

1163
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:02,100
profit line without there has to be

1164
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:05,100
some payback. I don't know what it

1165
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:06,100
looks like. But you can't just have dia

1166
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:10,801
as a cash cow, and then you don't

1167
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:15,201
invest in the community that built dia

1168
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:18,100
or whatever. There has to be some kind

1169
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:19,100
of integration some kind of involvement

1170
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,100
in all the cities and people. You can't

1171
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:23,100
just take from the county and not

1172
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:25,100
invest in the county. What values can

1173
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:28,100
we make sure when we are pitching or

1174
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:32,801
they are pitching us, there has to be

1175
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,100
some investment back into sponsorships,

1176
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:43,100
maybe I don't know basketball team or

1177
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:44,100
whatever. There's got to be a link back

1178
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:47,601
to the community, not gouging the

1179
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:50,100
community. I agree.

1180
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:58,601
>> good work. We will bring back

1181
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:03,601
incentives as the primary thing, and

1182
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:06,100
circle back with kathy and jason and

1183
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:09,100
see whatever we can do. Great. Thank

1184
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,401
you very very much.

1185
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:19,801
>> I think you are good until one, no,

1186
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:00,100
never mind.

1187
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:01,100
>> we've got one more thing.

1188
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:02,100
>>

1189
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:03,100
>>

1190
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:06,100
good morning everyone. . Rhonda fields

1191
01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:20,100
commissioner, [indiscernible] leslie

1192
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,401
summey commissioner, carrie warren

1193
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:24,100
gully commissioner, jessica campbell

1194
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:25,100
commissioner district 2,

1195
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:27,401
[indiscernible] open spaces, jason

1196
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,100
reynolds public works and development.

1197
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,100
thank you very much we are here for a

1198
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:37,100
dropping grant opportunity with the

1199
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,601
state historical fund grant. I will

1200
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:45,601
start with director pingenot. Thank you

1201
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:49,100
madam chair. I'm going to quickly pass

1202
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:54,401
it on to sandy and dan. Quick drop in

1203
01:03:58,100 --> 01:03:59,100
session. We are knowing that 17 mile

1204
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,100
house needs a little tlc. That is what

1205
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,100
we are here to talk about. This is on

1206
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:09,201
our cip list. Just kinda make that

1207
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:16,100
connection. Sandy take it away

1208
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:19,100
>> I will talk about the grant and

1209
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:20,100
leave it to dan to talk about the scope

1210
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:23,100
itself and work we are doing. We'd like

1211
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:27,100
to apply for a grant from the state

1212
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,100
historical fund up to 250,000 we are

1213
01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:30,100
working on the budget numbers. We have

1214
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:32,401
to supply 20 percent match.

1215
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:39,601
[indiscernible] what else should I say.

1216
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,100
we receive state historical fund

1217
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:47,100
grants in the past most recently in

1218
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:48,100
2017 or 2018 for work on the barn.

1219
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:51,100
[indiscernible] at the time. What

1220
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:55,201
should I say? We have applications due

1221
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:57,100
october 1 so we have a lot of work to

1222
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:01,100
do before that. Ideally we would do the

1223
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:04,601
work beginning next summer. That might

1224
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:08,100
be all from the grant side of things.

1225
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:10,100
the only thing I would add madam chair,

1226
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:14,201
this is very competitive grant. We are

1227
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:18,601
not necessarily holding our breath, we

1228
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:25,100
are thinking about a plan b if that is

1229
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,100
the case. But we have given overtures

1230
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,100
by folks in the state historical realm

1231
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:32,201
that they feel like our project is

1232
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:37,100
competitive. So, that is promising.

1233
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:40,100
it's about 40 percent of grant

1234
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:45,100
applications are actually approved. So,

1235
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,601
but we will persevere nonetheless. It's

1236
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:55,801
important to at least make the ask. It

1237
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:00,601
seems like you typically get around

1238
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:04,100
[indiscernible] it depends on the cycle

1239
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:05,100
they have two cycles per year and they

1240
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:07,100
get three times the amount of requests

1241
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:10,601
available. With fingers crossed. Do you

1242
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,100
want to talk about the scope of work?

1243
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:16,100
the scope of work is set to address the

1244
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:19,100
windows, the doors, the certain

1245
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:24,100
shingles on the roof. As the main focus

1246
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:28,801
is the house as well as the siding.

1247
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:34,100
obviously, we are going to be doing the

1248
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,100
gutters and wood facia as well. Ideally

1249
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:40,100
we would do it all at once considering

1250
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:44,201
they are all intermingled. There is an

1251
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:48,601
element that we would, you could

1252
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:51,100
potentially improve the windows

1253
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:53,100
specifically on the barn as well since

1254
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:57,100
those were not addressed, not needed at

1255
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,601
the last grant application. So, that

1256
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:05,100
right there is the scope we are looking

1257
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,100
to focus on as far as what this

1258
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:11,100
application will be received or not.

1259
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,100
commissioner baker

1260
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:15,601
>> thank you. The windows, some of

1261
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:21,601
those windowpanes are original. And you

1262
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:25,100
can tell because they are thin at the

1263
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:29,100
top and thicker at the bottom. If there

1264
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,601
is replacements being planned, would we

1265
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:37,201
keep some of the original available to

1266
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:44,100
be on display or something like that?

1267
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:45,100
we would reuse all items that are

1268
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:49,100
possible to be reused. We still have

1269
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:53,201
because of the easement, we still have

1270
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:57,100
to get everything as far as specific

1271
01:07:57,100 --> 01:08:00,100
details on the scope of work approved

1272
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,401
by the colorado historical

1273
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:08,401
[indiscernible], the foundation. So,

1274
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:16,100
our goal is to reuse, even with the

1275
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:21,100
doors reuse as much of the doors as we

1276
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:22,100
can. We would take this opportunity and

1277
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:25,100
we have been working with

1278
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:27,100
[indiscernible] to get her blessing

1279
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:31,100
more or less to update the doors from

1280
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:35,100
the security aspect as well. So, we met

1281
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:39,801
with her last week, she has given her

1282
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:42,100
blessing, she is willing to write a

1283
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:44,100
support letter as well. I think for

1284
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:48,801
some of the artifacts, we would look to

1285
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:51,100
potentially use them in some capacity,

1286
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:55,201
so they are not wasted. Thank you

1287
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:03,100
>> so to add to all these other

1288
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
comments, this is another partnership

1289
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,100
we have with [indiscernible]. Their

1290
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:08,100
team did a great job earlier this

1291
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:11,100
summer with some painting and other

1292
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:15,801
things that needed to be done. We are

1293
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:24,201
mindful of capacity at ffm. We've been

1294
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:28,100
thinking about how can we work with

1295
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:32,201
some of the construction folks in this

1296
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:40,601
space that are strong in historical

1297
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:45,100
preservation. We do have experience in

1298
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:47,100
the past and some come to mind, we are

1299
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:50,100
thinking about leaning more on those

1300
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:54,100
folks in a way to be mindful of our

1301
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:56,100
partnership with different departments.

1302
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:59,601
just adding that to the mix.

1303
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:03,100
>> commissioner warren gully

1304
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:07,601
>> I missed the cue. Any other

1305
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,100
discussion? Do we have thumbs up for

1306
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:13,601
the grant application? Thank you for

1307
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:19,601
finding it. Thank you very much.

1308
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,000
>>good afternoon everybody. Hi. Since

1309
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,100
everybody and their mother is in the

1310
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:29,100
room right now, let's get started with

1311
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:31,401
introductions. Jeff baker commissioner.

1312
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,100
patrick hernandez hr michelle hallstead

1313
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:37,100
commissioner's office rhonda fields

1314
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:39,100
commissioner [indiscernible] leslie

1315
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:42,100
summey commissioner carrie warren gully

1316
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:44,100
commissioner jessica campbell

1317
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:47,100
commissioner district 2 dusty sash hr

1318
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:52,100
[indiscernible]wonderful. Thank you all

1319
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:34,801
very very much. We are here for the

1320
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:38,100
2027 total compensation. Dusty sash?

1321
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:42,201
>> thank you for having me. We will

1322
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:49,100
review total compensation and then dive

1323
01:12:49,100 --> 01:12:53,201
into benefits, look at what the market

1324
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:58,100
is, what our plan looks like and changes. As

1325
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:02,100
a reminder we do make decisions on

1326
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:06,100
benefit requests today so we can get

1327
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:09,100
open enrollment on. , side of

1328
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:14,100
[indiscernible]. We will go through

1329
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:16,100
compensation and look at total cost at

1330
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:20,201
the request and the timeline. There's a

1331
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:23,100
lot of slides in the appendix I may

1332
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:27,100
refer to them from time to time, in

1333
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:28,100
case you one additional background and

1334
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:30,100
data on the requests we will be making.

1335
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:33,100
also I know the board knows this, I

1336
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:36,601
don't mind interruptions so feel free.

1337
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,100
>> you just opened the beast

1338
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:46,201
>> I'd rather address it when we have

1339
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:52,100
it. Total compensation philosophy has

1340
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:56,201
not changed in several years we strive

1341
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:06,100
to competitively pay our employees to

1342
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:07,100
our defined wage and salary market and

1343
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:08,100
adjusts to attract new talent and award

1344
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:11,601
performance our salary is the midpoint

1345
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:15,100
which means half of our peers pay less

1346
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:16,100
than us have to pay more than us and in

1347
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:17,100
our market area is 26 entities within

1348
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,100
the denver boulder area. The five

1349
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,100
components of compensation it is not

1350
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:26,601
just cash, it is included compensation

1351
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:29,100
the dollars we pay employees in

1352
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:32,100
exchange for the value they provide us.

1353
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,100
it also provides benefits which limit

1354
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:38,601
exposure. To financial risk. Work life

1355
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:45,100
success benefits. And policies like

1356
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,100
flex time, vacation, sick those kind of

1357
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:50,100
things that allow employees to be

1358
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:54,201
successful at work and at home. They

1359
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:56,100
bring their whole self to work at work

1360
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:57,100
so we want to make sure they are

1361
01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:00,100
successful in both places. Performance

1362
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,100
recognition to tie their goals and

1363
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:05,601
efforts to the county. And, our

1364
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:12,100
successes within that. And development

1365
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:17,100
and career opportunities, learning

1366
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:18,100
exercises that enhance skill and

1367
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:21,601
competency so they can grow. I

1368
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:26,601
understand not today but sometime you

1369
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:31,601
may hear recommendation to change this

1370
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,100
compensation philosophy

1371
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,100
[indiscernible]. That is the

1372
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:40,100
overarching premise of which we will

1373
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,100
put the rest of this against. Benefits

1374
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:45,100
and well-being. We will look at the

1375
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:49,100
market. Not a lot has changed since we

1376
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:50,100
met on this. Over all our living and

1377
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:53,601
benefits are leading the market, we

1378
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:56,100
provide comprehensive holistic suite of

1379
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:59,100
benefits to support employee well-being

1380
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:01,100
and they can personalize it for what

1381
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:04,100
matters most to each of them and their

1382
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,100
families. We lead the market and

1383
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:09,100
medical, dental, paid time off plans,

1384
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:12,100
inhibit your money line caregiver

1385
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:16,100
support benefits to provide support for

1386
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:17,100
those caring for others, infants at

1387
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:21,201
work and medical gap. The market vision

1388
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:27,100
flexible spending accounts eap life and

1389
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:30,601
a d&d insurance and disability

1390
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,100
insurance. Tuition reimbursement policy

1391
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:35,100
and paid caregiver leave. Retirement

1392
01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:41,100
contribution, I understand the

1393
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:45,100
retirement board has asked the board of

1394
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:46,100
county commissioners to increase the

1395
01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:49,100
county portion from 10 percent to 10.25

1396
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:53,100
percent, that is $635,000. We would

1397
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,100
need a decision on that today so we can

1398
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:02,801
get the system quoted for first of the

1399
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,100
year. We have a note that empower has

1400
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:09,100
put in a bid to acquire milliman.

1401
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:12,100
milliman houses are retirement plan,

1402
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:16,100
pension plan. Mpower houses the 457

1403
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:20,100
deferred compensation and for a1a

1404
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,100
defined contribution plans. At some

1405
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:25,100
point assuming this goes, we will do an

1406
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:28,601
implementation of move the pension over

1407
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:31,100
to mpower or the retirement board can

1408
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:36,100
choose to do an rfp to select a new

1409
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:39,100
provider. That is expected to close on

1410
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:43,100
september 1. More to come. We will talk

1411
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:47,801
about the net value, how to say our

1412
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,601
medical plan is leading the market.

1413
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:56,100
this is a reminder compares plan

1414
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:57,100
design, that is deductible co-pay

1415
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:59,401
coinsurance and out-of-pocket maximums,

1416
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:03,100
the cost within the design plus

1417
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:07,100
premiums to get a value. It compares

1418
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:10,100
our plan against similar plans in the

1419
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:13,100
market. On the core plan, when you

1420
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:17,201
factor in the hra, are deductible is

1421
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:21,100
less than the average of peers. Our

1422
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:24,100
co-pay is the same. Our specialty

1423
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:27,100
co-pay is a little more. Our

1424
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:30,100
out-of-pocket maximum is less and

1425
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:34,601
coinsurance is less. Premiums are also

1426
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,100
less. You add all that together

1427
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:39,100
compared to the average of the peers,

1428
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:41,100
that makes our plan 12.3 percent more

1429
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:44,601
valuable, we are leading the market.

1430
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,100
does not mean somebody can't have a

1431
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:48,100
lower premium. That might be in there

1432
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:52,100
because it's an average but it also

1433
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:55,601
means that others have higher premiums.

1434
01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:01,601
on average the employee only is $35.05

1435
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,100
more per month, and the family is $162

1436
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,100
more each month than our plan. And we

1437
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:12,100
have the choice plan, the design seems

1438
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:16,801
to be about the same but premiums are

1439
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:19,100
more. That results in our choice plan

1440
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:20,100
valued at 15 percent lower than the

1441
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:23,601
market average for the ppo. Medical

1442
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:31,100
renewal, you will recall that last year

1443
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:35,801
we had a 19.3, we negotiated to have a

1444
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,100
smoothing effect, we took a .5 and have

1445
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:42,201
three percent for three years. We have

1446
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:47,100
negotiated that and we have the three

1447
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,100
percent smoothing for the next three

1448
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:51,100
years forgiven that is gone. The first

1449
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:53,401
offer for renewal is 13.2,

1450
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:57,100
[indiscernible] has negotiated that to

1451
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,100
9.5. From a starting expectation of

1452
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:05,100
16.2 our renewal will be 9.5. That

1453
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:10,100
makes our five year average 3.2

1454
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:13,100
significantly better than the market.

1455
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:18,100
which tells me since plans are 90

1456
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:22,100
percent of cost employees are using a

1457
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:23,100
plant [indiscernible]. We are talking

1458
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:26,601
huge numbers but employees are using

1459
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:28,100
the plan the cost of the 9.5 is just

1460
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:31,100
under 3 million total cost. Primary

1461
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:35,100
drivers we've had some high costs

1462
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:38,100
[indiscernible] with bone and kidney

1463
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:41,100
cancer copd congestive heart failure

1464
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:42,100
and autoimmune disease that affects the

1465
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:46,201
skin, I can't say it. Scleroderma. And

1466
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:51,100
we've had additional high-cost claims,

1467
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:54,601
more than the benchmark. We've had

1468
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:58,401
high-cost claimants over 50,000. We've

1469
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:04,100
had a higher cooling point this year

1470
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:07,100
which means we take on more risk. Our

1471
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:11,201
premium for that goes down, a portion

1472
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,100
of the premium goes down but we are

1473
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:17,100
also taking on more risk of claims.

1474
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:20,100
kaiser has also changed their

1475
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,100
underwriting methodology to be 24

1476
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:26,201
months instead of 12. The idea would be

1477
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:32,100
that hopefully that smooths things out

1478
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:33,100
when you have a bad year you have 24

1479
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:36,100
months to calculate that in.

1480
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,100
unfortunately for us it includes the

1481
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:41,801
19.3 now that we got last year. It was

1482
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:45,100
an advantage for us this year but

1483
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:46,100
overall given our five-year average it

1484
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:49,100
should help in the future. They applied

1485
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:53,201
a trend of 6.89 compared the cost this

1486
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:59,601
year. At 6.89 that beats the national

1487
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:02,100
trend average of 9.5 and colorado trend

1488
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:06,201
average of 11 percent. That comes in a

1489
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:11,201
lot lower than the average. Because of

1490
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:17,100
this, it's a rare occasion but we are

1491
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:20,601
able to maintain county employee will

1492
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:23,100
total cost share 7525 by applying 9.5

1493
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:24,100
percent to the county portion and

1494
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:27,601
employee portion. Both plans all tears.

1495
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:29,100
it's rare that happens because they pay

1496
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:32,100
so much less than the county does. The

1497
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:35,100
percentage dollar amount usually ends

1498
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:40,100
up being bigger. In this case we can

1499
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:41,100
maintain 75/25 by applying 9.5

1500
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:43,401
across-the-board. It will probably

1501
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:49,100
never happen again. That puts the

1502
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,100
county cost to the general fund at just

1503
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:54,100
over 1.2 million. Any questions? We

1504
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:02,601
will maintain the same premium cost

1505
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:06,100
share. The hmo employee only the county

1506
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:09,100
pays 82 percent with employees paying

1507
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:11,401
18 percent. Dependent coverage county

1508
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:15,100
pays 72 percent with employees sharing

1509
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:18,601
28 percent. Choice ppo a buyout plan

1510
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:27,100
that's more expensive the county

1511
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:28,100
contributes less in addition the county

1512
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:29,100
covers 64 percent with employee paying

1513
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:31,401
36. Dependent coverage county pays 54

1514
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:33,100
percent with the employee paying 46

1515
01:23:33,100 --> 01:23:36,601
percent of the premium. That increases

1516
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:42,100
total cost of the plan 26 million for

1517
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:43,100
the county side and just under 9

1518
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:47,201
million for the employees to share. The

1519
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:51,100
cost goes up in the percentages the

1520
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:53,100
same 75/25, because it is a

1521
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:54,100
[indiscernible] call so as you read

1522
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:57,100
more people total cost goes up. This is

1523
01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:01,100
what it does to the rates. Today's

1524
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:04,601
rates are in the second column, 2027

1525
01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:09,201
rates are in the third column, the

1526
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:15,601
change from 26 to 27 biweekly in the

1527
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:22,100
fourth column. From $6.29 employee only

1528
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:27,801
to 51 70 on the family for the ppo. We

1529
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:39,100
can talk about how that impacts the

1530
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:41,100
employees the employees often hear if

1531
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:42,100
my rate is going to go up 9.5 percent

1532
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:43,100
and I only get three percent merit

1533
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:47,201
increase, it's costing me to stay. We

1534
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:53,100
wanted to show the impact of a larger

1535
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:54,100
percentage on a smaller dollar amount

1536
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:58,201
compared to a smaller percentage on a

1537
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:02,601
larger dollar amount. He these include

1538
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,100
medical on a dh amount dental basic

1539
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:07,100
live short-term disability 401(k) and

1540
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:10,601
tax rate of 20 percent. The first

1541
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:14,601
example is employee a, a 29-year-old

1542
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:20,401
single individual making $42,226, our

1543
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:24,601
lowest paid employee at the county

1544
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:28,100
currently. Currently that ends up being

1545
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:31,601
gross 1626 per pay period. The employee

1546
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:36,100
has $218 in deductions while the county

1547
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:39,100
provides $497 of benefits in addition

1548
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:43,801
to the base comp. That results in his

1549
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:47,100
taxes because you will take the gross

1550
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:49,100
minus the deductions, to get a taxable

1551
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:53,201
income. You are being taxed on a

1552
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:55,100
smaller amount. While it's 20 percent

1553
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:59,100
tax rate it is 17 percent of gross.

1554
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:02,601
those pretax benefits lower your tax

1555
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:05,100
bill. This individual currently takes

1556
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:08,100
home 69 percent of gross for 11 26.

1557
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:21,100
assuming spoiler alert 4.6 percent

1558
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:22,100
salary increase for the following year

1559
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:23,100
his income will go to 1700 per

1560
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:26,601
paycheck. With the increase to medical,

1561
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:29,100
his increase will go to 229 for

1562
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:31,401
reductions, still remains 13 percent.

1563
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:36,201
his taxes go up to 294, remaining at 17

1564
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:41,100
percent. For a take home of 1177. He

1565
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:44,601
will still take home $51 more per

1566
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:48,100
paycheck, even with the larger increase

1567
01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:51,601
to medical and 4.6 percent increase to

1568
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,100
salary. Second example is a 49 year-old

1569
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:57,100
with a family making 90,059, our

1570
01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:00,100
average pay across the county. If you

1571
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:03,100
remove this it's 84,000. 90,000 ends up

1572
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:15,201
being 3464 today. You can see all the

1573
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:21,100
same numbers. 18 percent for

1574
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:22,100
deductions taxes 16 percent take-home

1575
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:24,401
pay 66 percent. Interestingly enough,

1576
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:31,100
you read the family coverage in in your

1577
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:32,100
take-home pay even though you make a

1578
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:33,100
lot more ends up being less on a

1579
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:35,401
percentage basis. Assuming 4.6 percent

1580
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:39,100
this individual would take him an

1581
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,100
additional 103 13 each paycheck.

1582
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:45,601
essentially it ends up being being

1583
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:52,100
enrolled in these plans saves the

1584
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:54,100
individual $131 in taxes each paycheck.

1585
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:58,201
reduces their tax bill. Just a little

1586
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:06,100
bit of an impact on how this helps

1587
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:10,100
employees. If we apply all that and it

1588
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,100
gets approved, this is the same chart

1589
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:15,100
to look at the value but instead of the

1590
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:18,601
2026 versus 2026 where we are today, is

1591
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:24,100
the peers 2026 against our 2027. That

1592
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:26,100
drops a little bit because they haven't

1593
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:29,601
changed their premiums yet. Our plan

1594
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:33,601
would still be valued at 7.5 percent

1595
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:35,100
higher than their current plan even

1596
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:37,100
without them changing agreements. It

1597
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:41,100
sits in a good place. Our target is plus or

1598
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:46,401
minus five percent of the average. We tend to

1599
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:51,100
lead a little more than that five

1600
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:52,100
percent we do expect this will go up

1601
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:56,201
once our peers make changes. We have

1602
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:02,601
found out our ten county [indiscernible]

1603
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:05,100
was scheduled for 9-14 so we will have

1604
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:06,100
more information on that from that

1605
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:09,100
meeting and on comp. Before you have to

1606
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:13,801
make a decision on comp that after this

1607
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:17,100
meeting. A little note on medical

1608
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:18,100
renewal for 2028, we are in the process

1609
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:21,100
of doing the medical survey, which goes

1610
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:25,801
a cup closed a couple of fridays ago.

1611
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
we will put that all together but

1612
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:31,100
depending on what that circumstance

1613
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:32,100
looks like and what we decide to do

1614
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:36,201
kaiser has offered if we don't go

1615
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:40,100
early, if we stay with our normal

1616
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:43,601
schedule they will offer a negotiated

1617
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:46,100
option. It came to us with no more than

1618
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:48,100
9.5 not to exceed 9.5 percent. We asked

1619
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:52,801
them to sweeten the pot, they came back

1620
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:56,100
with two options. Option one no greater

1621
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:57,100
than nine percent. If we get a two

1622
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:59,100
percent renewal we get to present. If

1623
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:03,100
we get 15 percent we get nine percent.

1624
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:06,601
or option two, eight fixed eight

1625
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:10,100
percent. I don't think that's

1626
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:11,100
reasonable because it would get that

1627
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,100
history shows we beat the markets more

1628
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:17,100
years than not. We end up paying eight

1629
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:20,100
regardless. We don't have to take it if

1630
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:24,100
we go early. If that's the decision

1631
01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:26,100
this is off the table but it is there

1632
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:27,100
in case we are sticking with the normal

1633
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:30,100
timeline in the first place.

1634
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:33,100
commissioner campbell

1635
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:37,201
>> I know that we have been putting

1636
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:39,100
together a team to look at our medical

1637
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:42,100
and all of that. And that there is a

1638
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:44,100
little bit of urgency around it, we

1639
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:48,801
been talking about it for a while, I

1640
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:50,100
also know there's a lot of information

1641
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:52,100
that goes into this. Is there a benefit

1642
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:55,601
in sticking with the current, deadlines

1643
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:04,100
or actions? We laugh sometimes like

1644
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:07,601
government seems like were the problem.

1645
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:10,100
but also to be thoughtful and

1646
01:31:10,100 --> 01:31:13,601
procedural and get feedback and buy-in,

1647
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:16,100
that takes time. So if we go with this,

1648
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:20,801
does it have this benefit also the side

1649
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:24,601
benefit of giving us a thoughtful

1650
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:26,100
process so we are not rushing that

1651
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:27,100
feedback process as well. Basically you

1652
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:31,801
would have a year to talk about and

1653
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:35,100
figure it out and then we go out in 28

1654
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:39,201
for 29. Which is our normal schedule. I

1655
01:31:40,100 --> 01:31:41,100
will say bill and I have been meeting

1656
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:44,601
with all of the [indiscernible] the

1657
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:48,100
anthem blue cross, united healthcare,

1658
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:53,100
all of them one-on-one informally.

1659
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:59,201
we've also met with brian over at

1660
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:05,100
aurora. They added in healthcare

1661
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:06,100
standard next to kaiser last year so we

1662
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:10,100
could get some lessons learned. What we

1663
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:11,100
don't want to do to your point is rush

1664
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
so we get the same result we got two

1665
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:15,100
years ago. All of them said we can't do

1666
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:18,601
that, we can't meet those expectations.

1667
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:21,100
so we only had one proposal that did

1668
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:25,201
not meet the rfp requirements. What we

1669
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,100
want to do is be thoughtful and

1670
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:31,201
intentional so no matter how much time

1671
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:40,100
it takes to make sure we're

1672
01:32:40,100 --> 01:32:41,100
[indiscernible] so ideally every single

1673
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:42,100
one of them respond and we have a

1674
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:43,100
choice

1675
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:46,100
>> are we doing internal committee

1676
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,100
process as well? We are halfway through

1677
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:50,100
it now we just met from 12 to 1 today,

1678
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:54,801
going over next steps in the next two

1679
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:02,100
meetings. We will provide you

1680
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:03,100
information [indiscernible]

1681
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:04,100
>> okay great meetings the last meeting

1682
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:05,100
is september 29. We have open

1683
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:08,100
enrollment between now and then. We

1684
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:09,100
will hopefully have a committee member

1685
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:12,601
present results to you in early

1686
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:17,100
november. Okay great. Okay. And we can

1687
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:18,100
take that feedback and inform the work

1688
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:22,801
next year as well. But this also, by

1689
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:30,100
staying the course, this gives us more

1690
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:33,000
surety. Okay. More clarity. Once we get

1691
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,100
the feedback from those two groups

1692
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:38,100
because we did a survey and also

1693
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:40,100
did.... Clarity by staying on time and

1694
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:43,100
not going out in 27. I know some people

1695
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:48,401
were eager for us to do. But by not

1696
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:53,100
doing that we also get this witch in a

1697
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:55,100
land of everything costs more and more

1698
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:58,100
it feels like. Maybe it's disappointing

1699
01:33:58,100 --> 01:34:01,100
that some people not go out earlier but

1700
01:34:01,100 --> 01:34:02,100
it also [indiscernible]. You don't have

1701
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:05,601
to make this decision until november.

1702
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:10,601
>> okay. Okay gotcha. We get feedback

1703
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:16,801
from the survey and group and if this

1704
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:19,100
makes sense cool. If your instruction

1705
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:23,801
is december 9, I need drop dead, I will

1706
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:26,100
take every single minute you can give

1707
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:29,100
me on top of that but that is my

1708
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:30,100
drop-dead. There's no way I can go early

1709
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:32,100
if I don't know by september 9.

1710
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,601
>> okay thank you. That's medical. Here

1711
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:44,100
goes dental. We had a renewal for

1712
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:47,601
dental this year. Claims went up .3

1713
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:52,100
percent. Which is $5200. Asoc because

1714
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,100
it's self-insured we pay an

1715
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:57,601
administrative fee to delta dental went

1716
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:01,100
up 2.9 percent an additional $3000

1717
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:04,601
total increase of 8200. That being the

1718
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:11,801
case we also have the dental reserve at

1719
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:13,100
671 300. A previous board gave us

1720
01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:15,100
instructions to keep that around

1721
01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:18,601
300,000. We have not been able to

1722
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:24,401
supplement the rates effectively

1723
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:28,100
enough, impasse strategy to make a dent

1724
01:35:28,100 --> 01:35:31,100
in that it keeps going up. I'm

1725
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:35,201
deviating a little in my request this

1726
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:40,601
year. To take out the 8200 increase

1727
01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:42,100
from the reserve, but also to reduce

1728
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:44,100
the employee share of the rates for 27

1729
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:47,100
and reduce the dental rates. And we pay

1730
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:51,801
it out of the reserve. That will reduce

1731
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:57,201
the reserve by 322 which puts us around

1732
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:04,601
350. That ends up being anywhere from

1733
01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:11,100
two dollars to 10.50 a paycheck

1734
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:15,201
depending on your tier. A smaller cost

1735
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:20,100
but still a positive message to say

1736
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:24,100
medical rates are going up but dental

1737
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:25,100
is going down.

1738
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:27,100
>> commissioner warren gully

1739
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:33,401
>> thank you. If we do that which is a

1740
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:35,100
great idea, I'm just thinking of when

1741
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:36,100
we have to get the rates back up to

1742
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:38,100
what they normally would be and how

1743
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:42,201
that would feel also. What do we

1744
01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:47,201
typically add to this fund every year?

1745
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:53,100
we did not add as much last year some

1746
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:54,100
of it depends on claims but generally

1747
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:55,100
it's been growing by 200,000 a year. I

1748
01:36:55,100 --> 01:37:00,401
think we will be okay. We do the normal

1749
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:03,100
split going forward assuming this does

1750
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:04,100
not [indiscernible] where if it's a two

1751
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:08,100
percent increase how does that play out

1752
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,100
into the rates. We allocate the

1753
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:12,100
increase again but from the lower

1754
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:13,100
number. We start building from the

1755
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:17,201
lower number back up again. So we

1756
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:20,100
wouldn't have to next year

1757
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,100
[indiscernible]

1758
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:24,601
>> I don't anticipate that, no. Can't

1759
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:27,100
guarantee on the aso but I don't

1760
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:28,100
anticipate that on the claims. We have

1761
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:33,401
not seen that yet. I have a question do

1762
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:37,100
you want us to wait until you finish

1763
01:37:37,100 --> 01:37:40,601
everything or give you direction? This

1764
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:45,100
seems like it could be [indiscernible]

1765
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:47,100
if you are ready and you don't need to

1766
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:48,100
see the whole picture to make decision

1767
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:50,100
then tell me and I will write it down.

1768
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:52,100
do we have thoughts on the dental? Five

1769
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:55,100
thumbs up on the dental.

1770
01:37:57,100 --> 01:38:01,801
>> do you want to go back to medical?

1771
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:06,601
>> this one seemed a really simple.

1772
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:12,201
this one is informative so you don't

1773
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:17,100
have to vote. Life a d&d disability and

1774
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:18,100
medical gap rfp was conducted this year

1775
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:21,100
it is our third largest. We went to

1776
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:23,100
market to match or enhance the current

1777
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,601
plans. We had seven responses, the

1778
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:35,100
standard was the incumbent

1779
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:36,100
[indiscernible] the evaluation team

1780
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:39,601
dusty bill dominique and jay, the

1781
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:44,100
standard received the highest rating

1782
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:45,100
and will remain the provider with

1783
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:46,100
reduced premium costs to save the

1784
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:49,100
county 370,000 a year. And some

1785
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:57,100
significant enhancements. For

1786
01:38:57,100 --> 01:38:58,100
guaranteed issue meaning you don't have

1787
01:38:58,100 --> 01:38:59,100
to fill out signature form will

1788
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:00,100
increase for employee live from 200,000

1789
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:03,100
to 250. Spouse live from 30,000 to

1790
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:05,100
50,000. The accelerated benefit which

1791
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:09,201
is not something lovely to speak about,

1792
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:11,100
accelerated benefit is when you

1793
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:12,100
received a terminal diagnosis within

1794
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:13,100
the next 12 months, you can take a

1795
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:16,601
portion of life insurance out. That

1796
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:19,100
increases to 80 percent up to 600,000.

1797
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,100
so you can get your affairs together.

1798
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:24,100
some enhancements on that. Well-being

1799
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:35,100
plan, we continue to have double-digit

1800
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:38,601
growth in the portal access for

1801
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:48,100
participation of programs. We offer

1802
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:49,100
more than 16 programs with a reminder

1803
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:50,100
successful well-being generally needs

1804
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:52,100
to have 10 programs per year to keep

1805
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:54,100
engagement. And six asked specs to be

1806
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:58,201
holistic. Our plan does have six, it

1807
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:01,100
has career community emotional

1808
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:03,100
financial physical and social

1809
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:07,100
components. So we can address the whole

1810
01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:11,100
person. We continue to see double digit

1811
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:14,601
growth each year since we redesigned

1812
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:17,401
the program. Wellness council

1813
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:20,100
unfortunately has dropped. Right now we

1814
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:23,601
have a few reports struggling in, 32

1815
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:26,100
percent completion of the kp numbers,

1816
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:29,601
25 percent of everyone. Last year we

1817
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:32,401
had 48 percent. It dropped

1818
01:40:34,100 --> 01:40:36,100
significantly. We can look into reasons

1819
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:40,801
why, it could just be fatigue, it could

1820
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:44,100
be we did not get the communication out

1821
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:45,100
as effectively as we used to, we will

1822
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:49,801
have to look into it. It did drop

1823
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:53,100
significantly. With the easier process.

1824
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:57,601
total health continues to grow every

1825
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:02,100
year, total brain continues to grow we

1826
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:05,100
had 1570 since we initiated it in 2024.

1827
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:08,100
your money line has 32 percent

1828
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:10,100
engagement rate, that is more than

1829
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:13,601
double the standard for the business

1830
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:16,100
engagement. Employees are using the

1831
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:17,100
benefits the county provides for them

1832
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:19,401
for their well-being. Tuition

1833
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:22,100
reimbursement, we had 13 participants a

1834
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:25,601
little low in 2025, we had 18 in 2026.

1835
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:33,100
mental health first aid we had 398

1836
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:34,100
participants since 2019, most of the

1837
01:41:34,100 --> 01:41:35,100
board will be at the november meeting,

1838
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:40,401
we just had them last week, we got a

1839
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:44,601
lot of positive feedback again from

1840
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:47,100
that class. Our pivot tobacco

1841
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,401
cessation, we currently have 15

1842
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:52,100
participants, if every single

1843
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:55,100
participant were to quit, that would

1844
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:58,601
save the medical plan 135,000 a year.

1845
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:05,100
tobacco user cost twice what a

1846
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,100
nontobacco user costs, on average

1847
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:11,100
$9000. We have 189 employees who have

1848
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:15,100
tested to using tobacco chronically.

1849
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:21,100
we've had 150 participants in the

1850
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:26,100
program since 2021. For 2026 we did add

1851
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:27,100
an improved spouse's and adult children

1852
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:31,100
to the program, per the request of

1853
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:34,100
employees. Home thrive our caregiver

1854
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:36,401
support, we've had 247 participants

1855
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:42,100
since 2022, 152 unique active users in

1856
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:46,201
the first half of 2026. They signed up

1857
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:51,201
once but they continually go back and

1858
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:53,100
get additional support. This more than

1859
01:42:53,100 --> 01:42:54,100
doubles their [indiscernible] while

1860
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:57,100
that seems low to me, they are thrilled

1861
01:42:57,100 --> 01:43:01,201
with the engagement our staff has with

1862
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:08,401
it. I will need a vote on this one.

1863
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:13,100
vacation carryover. Our current carrier

1864
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:16,100
policy all benefit eligible employees

1865
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:18,100
may carry over 144 hours of vacation

1866
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:21,100
regardless of tenure or accrual rate.

1867
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:24,100
we made this choice intentionally

1868
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:29,100
because we do recognize the positive

1869
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:32,100
impact of taking vacation on the

1870
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:33,100
employee well-being. And selfishly

1871
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:36,601
their productivity when they come back.

1872
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:41,201
however, we often hear, I often hear

1873
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:46,100
that it just isn't feasible to take all

1874
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:50,100
that time off because we need on the

1875
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:54,201
accrual that we lag on the carryover.

1876
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,100
so we give more time but is not always

1877
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:59,100
possible for them to take all that time

1878
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:02,100
off. They end up feeling anxiety and

1879
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:03,100
stress about not doing their job taking

1880
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:07,100
their time and losing it. We did look

1881
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:13,100
at it for a couple years to get to the

1882
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:17,201
right timing. We are going to propose

1883
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:19,100
we drop the accrual down so everyone

1884
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:22,601
under 10 years of service will accrue

1885
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:26,601
at 144. Currently we have under five

1886
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:28,100
years at 120. They can carryover one

1887
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:32,201
year worth of accrual. It's still not

1888
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:38,100
like what our peers do but it's a

1889
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:41,100
smaller step. But we carryover the same

1890
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:42,100
as they accrual. If you accrue 144 you

1891
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:45,601
can carry over 144. If you accrue 168

1892
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:51,201
you can carry over 168. If you accrue

1893
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:55,100
192 you can carry over 192. The

1894
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:58,100
potential liability, if they are taking

1895
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:02,201
time off while employed, it's part of

1896
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:07,100
their salary. But if they leave with a

1897
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:10,601
balance, that payout is a potential

1898
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:19,100
liability. That cost will be about

1899
01:45:19,100 --> 01:45:20,100
216,000 which represents 2.5 percent of

1900
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:22,401
total vacation liability in 2027.

1901
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:24,100
additionally the carryover, the

1902
01:45:24,100 --> 01:45:26,401
difference between 144 and 168 hours,

1903
01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:32,601
is an additional $68,500. We asking to

1904
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:44,100
make this change on behalf of employees

1905
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:47,601
who have been begging for this.

1906
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:49,100
commissioner fields

1907
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:52,100
>> my question is, I know you are

1908
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:55,100
responding to feedback from employees.

1909
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:04,100
do you have consensus what kind of

1910
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,100
reaction might you get because of the

1911
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:06,100
[indiscernible]

1912
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:10,201
>> it is positive. We did get feedback.

1913
01:46:14,100 --> 01:46:15,100
we have the five and under at 120 which

1914
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:19,201
means they would only accrue 120 was to

1915
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:28,100
move all of those accruing 120 up so

1916
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:30,100
they get 24 hours more to 144. There's

1917
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:34,801
no take away it is all positive. We

1918
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:40,201
also have feedback that this is not

1919
01:46:43,100 --> 01:46:44,100
enough but again with that standard

1920
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:46,100
principal of its good for their

1921
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:49,100
well-being, it's good for employees to

1922
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:50,100
take time off. I don't want to go so

1923
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:53,100
far over with it, they are getting

1924
01:46:53,100 --> 01:46:56,601
burnout because they don't take time

1925
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:58,100
off. Commissioner baker

1926
01:46:58,100 --> 01:47:02,201
>>dusty, has this particular all of it

1927
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:06,100
hasn't gone before the e team? And you

1928
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:10,801
got feedback from them as well? Yes. We

1929
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:16,100
have thumbs, five thumbs up.

1930
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:22,601
>> thank you. No change on the

1931
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:29,100
holidays. Because christmas falls on a

1932
01:47:29,100 --> 01:47:33,100
saturday, we will back christmas up to

1933
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:34,100
friday for weekend rules which means

1934
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:38,201
christmas eve gets backed up to the

1935
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:40,100
23rd. It will be thursday and friday

1936
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:45,100
off but now we are on the right days.

1937
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:49,201
other than that, those are the days.

1938
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:53,100
the court holidays no christmas eve or

1939
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,100
day after thanksgiving unless the court

1940
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:59,100
closes. Therefore they received five

1941
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:02,100
floating holidays. They are supposed to

1942
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:05,100
be saving two of those in case the

1943
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:06,100
courts close. If they don't choose to

1944
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:10,100
do that and use them ahead of time,

1945
01:48:10,100 --> 01:48:11,100
they have to either take vacation or

1946
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:15,201
take it unpaid if the courts close.

1947
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:24,100
other benefits, late guarantee accept

1948
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:26,100
prepaid legal will go from 762 to 992

1949
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:27,100
832 percent increase. It has not

1950
01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:30,601
increased in 12 years. It's a huge

1951
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:36,100
increase, it increase two years ago and

1952
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:38,100
I pushed back and they let it ride for

1953
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:39,100
a couple years. It has not really

1954
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:42,100
changed in 12 years. While 30 percent

1955
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:48,100
seems huge, divided by 12 it's not that

1956
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:51,100
bad. That is benefits. Compensation,

1957
01:48:56,100 --> 01:48:59,601
update on the labor market. Our

1958
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:06,100
employees are focusing more on costs

1959
01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:07,100
than retention as a primary decision

1960
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:10,100
driver for comp and benefits. This does

1961
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:14,201
not mean they don't think retention is

1962
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:21,801
important. Is just that in the last year

1963
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:23,100
the cost is no longer sustainable for

1964
01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:24,100
organizations so that becomes a primary

1965
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:26,100
driver trying to find what their

1966
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:29,100
decision-making is. There still remains

1967
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:34,100
economic uncertainty. As an example 1

1968
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:36,100
of the reasons we may have economic

1969
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:39,100
uncertainty is ai, restructuring jobs

1970
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:43,100
in some fields. Ai has helped

1971
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:46,100
organizations target reskilling for data

1972
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:51,100
entry clerks. Which means organizations

1973
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:56,100
even if they don't get rid of the role

1974
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:57,100
as a human being they lowered the

1975
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:58,100
salaries or they use ai and don't

1976
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:01,601
rehire so that creates uncertainty. We

1977
01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:06,100
also see some boomerang effect with

1978
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:07,100
that organizations that laid off these

1979
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:09,100
roles are thinking ai could do it have

1980
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:13,201
said this is not working and brought

1981
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:16,100
back the staff. That creates boomerang

1982
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:18,401
creates instability. And some

1983
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:24,100
uncertainty. Merit budgets have settled

1984
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:29,100
back to the approximate 3.5 percent

1985
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:30,100
each year that were at pre-pandemic

1986
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:31,100
levels but turnover and job openings

1987
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:33,401
remain at the 22/23 level.

1988
01:50:40,100 --> 01:50:41,100
organizations are looking at

1989
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,100
performance-based bonuses or short-term

1990
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:43,100
incentives which we don't get here

1991
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:46,100
because you have to have stock options.

1992
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:50,201
to continue to gain momentum over base

1993
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:55,100
salary increases. We will see how that

1994
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:56,100
plays out. Generally government lags

1995
01:50:56,100 --> 01:51:00,201
three years from private. So we should

1996
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:04,100
be able to see some of those outcomes

1997
01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:05,100
from these changes before we have to

1998
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:09,100
look at any of those things as an

1999
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:13,100
option. There has been because of the

2000
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:16,100
economic uncertainty a structural slow

2001
01:51:16,100 --> 01:51:19,100
down. Organizations are becoming slower

2002
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:23,201
to hire, they slow down higher rates,

2003
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:25,100
also employees while the turnover rates

2004
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:29,201
are same as 22, they are starting to

2005
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:31,100
slow down because of economic

2006
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:34,100
uncertainty employees are holding fast

2007
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:37,100
and slowing their willingness to leave.

2008
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:41,100
slow down on both sides. Salaries and

2009
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:44,601
advanced sectors like ai have continued

2010
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:51,100
to experience growth. They are using

2011
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:52,100
what they call skill sets to determine

2012
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:55,100
compensation rather than experience. We

2013
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:57,100
have a new technology you may not have

2014
01:51:57,100 --> 01:52:01,801
a lot of people with skill sets. That

2015
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:05,601
would not work for mature organizations

2016
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:22,100
like us across-the-board.

2017
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:23,100
[indiscernible]

2018
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:24,100
>> the first box iteration of merit

2019
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:25,100
sits at 3.5 with top performance

2020
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:26,100
receiving between 5.6 and six percent.

2021
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:30,100
in the labor market. Denver cost of

2022
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:33,100
labor is around 18 percent higher than

2023
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:36,601
national average. Thus from the bureau

2024
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:38,100
of labor statistics. Cost of living is

2025
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:41,100
12.9 percent of the national average.

2026
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:44,100
cost of labor is higher than

2027
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:47,100
cost-of-living. Still higher than the

2028
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:49,100
national average. We talked about the

2029
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:52,601
percentages on dollar amounts. And how

2030
01:52:54,100 --> 01:52:56,100
that impacts it. The denver cpi

2031
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:59,100
increase five percent versus national

2032
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:01,100
average of 4.2. Arapahoe county

2033
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:04,100
unemployment is 3.6 percent. We have

2034
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:06,100
talked in the past about when

2035
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:09,100
unemployment rate is below four, it can

2036
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:14,401
make it very hard for us to hire or

2037
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:23,100
recruit. So, we start looking for some

2038
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:24,100
creative and flexible ways to

2039
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:25,100
incentivize employees and candidates to

2040
01:53:25,100 --> 01:53:29,801
come when we are in hard to fill

2041
01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:31,100
positions. We have our eyes out for

2042
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:33,401
that [indiscernible] on that. 94.8

2043
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:38,100
percent of employees are in positions

2044
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:40,100
that match the market, 87 percent of

2045
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:43,100
jobs are matched to the market. That's

2046
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:47,801
a very stable number and we love that.

2047
01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:50,100
it tells us we do have the data to say

2048
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:54,100
we are where we are at in a competitive

2049
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:55,100
market. From three years ago when we

2050
01:53:55,100 --> 01:54:00,100
had no data to this, it makes our jobs

2051
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:04,100
a lot easier. Our comp ratio is .98, it

2052
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:07,601
shows our structure not the employee

2053
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:09,100
pay, our structure is lagging the

2054
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:13,201
market by two percent. Not a surprise.

2055
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:19,100
we did not fund 2.67 percent we

2056
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:21,100
requested last year due to financial

2057
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:22,100
constraints. The fact that the

2058
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:25,100
structure is behind is not surprising.

2059
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:29,801
our average pay and this is a new

2060
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:31,100
statistic, our average pay is lagging

2061
01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:34,601
peers by 3.9 percent. The structure two

2062
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:37,100
percent below where it needs to be,

2063
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:40,100
will move almost 2 percent . But our

2064
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:44,201
pay is in the lower percentile , there

2065
01:54:49,100 --> 01:54:50,100
are more demographics on that our

2066
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:51,100
average pay how many people are below

2067
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:55,201
midpoint on page 45. So roger on the

2068
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:02,100
structure. But our average pay lag

2069
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:05,601
appears by 3.9 percent but yet two

2070
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:12,201
boxes over we see that 94.8 percent of

2071
01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:18,100
employees are in positions that match

2072
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:19,100
the market 87 percent of jobs match the

2073
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:21,100
market if average pay lag our peers by

2074
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:24,100
3.9 percent that feels counter posed.

2075
01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:29,100
these are the positions that have a

2076
01:55:29,100 --> 01:55:31,100
benchmark so we have a number to

2077
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:34,601
compare against. The structure is two

2078
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:37,100
percent. But managers are making hiring

2079
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:40,601
decisions and pay decisions in the

2080
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:44,100
lower half. So our pay is almost 4

2081
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:47,100
percent lower than peers average pay.

2082
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:51,201
so the comp ratio, yes. I guess 3.6

2083
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:56,601
percent unemployment will take care of

2084
01:55:58,100 --> 01:56:02,201
that. Maybe. I mentioned that the total

2085
01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:09,100
comp which we usually have in july

2086
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:11,100
won't be until september 14. At this

2087
01:56:11,100 --> 01:56:14,100
point I only have 36 percent of peers

2088
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:17,601
recording and their number. Cpec are

2089
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:25,100
foundational markets data came back

2090
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:28,100
with merit moving 3.7 percent into

2091
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:30,100
2027, structure moving 1.93, which

2092
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:33,601
represents that two percent. Pay scale

2093
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:38,601
came in at 2.1 and 2.1 even across.

2094
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:43,201
world of work came in at 3.5 and 2.5,

2095
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:53,100
pay scale and world at work all

2096
01:56:53,100 --> 01:56:54,100
industries and all public-private and

2097
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:55,100
not-for-profit. Government fears the 36

2098
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:56,100
that have provided feedback come in

2099
01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:59,100
with a merit asks, they have not asked

2100
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:02,100
yet, 2.43 percent on average, structure

2101
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:10,601
movement of 1.19. If you add the 1.19

2102
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:13,100
and 2.43, you get to a very similar

2103
01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:17,801
number two what you see on the next

2104
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:24,201
request. Which is market. We will be

2105
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:28,100
moving the structure 1.93 percent, that

2106
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:33,201
will be applied to the minimum and

2107
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:35,100
maximum. When we move the structure it

2108
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:39,100
also lowers the comp ratio. We move the

2109
01:57:39,100 --> 01:57:42,100
structure without the pay that lowers

2110
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:43,100
the comp ratio. We recommend you

2111
01:57:43,100 --> 01:57:46,100
approve funding, not today, as part of

2112
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:48,401
your normal budgeting package,

2113
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:54,100
recommend funding that movement at 1.5

2114
01:57:54,100 --> 01:57:58,201
percent. Not the whole thing but the

2115
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:01,100
majority of it. That is we are trying

2116
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:03,100
to get a total budget number and allow

2117
01:58:03,100 --> 01:58:04,100
for pay-for-performance where it

2118
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:06,100
applies in our merit. If the decision

2119
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:10,801
is not to fund the market structure at

2120
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:16,100
1.5, there is still a cost to bring the

2121
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:19,601
minimum. We have 33 jobs not including

2122
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:26,100
union representative jobs that will be

2123
01:58:26,100 --> 01:58:27,100
reclassified to higher grades and seven

2124
01:58:27,100 --> 01:58:30,601
will be reclassified into lower grades.

2125
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:33,100
nobody gets re-class to a lower grade

2126
01:58:33,100 --> 01:58:35,100
has money taken away they have a lower

2127
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:37,100
range but there are some that will need

2128
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:42,401
to get some money to move up in their

2129
01:58:43,100 --> 01:58:45,100
grade. That cost is about 92,000

2130
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:49,801
between the two. It's one or the other,

2131
01:58:57,100 --> 01:59:00,100
not additive. Merit, for those not

2132
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:01,100
representative or unsworn, we are

2133
01:59:01,100 --> 01:59:04,601
asking for 3.1 percent. Going back to

2134
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:10,100
my spoil alert, a total budget of 4.6.

2135
01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:12,100
that does not mean everyone gets 3.1

2136
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:14,100
percent. It depends on their

2137
01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:16,100
performance rating, some people get

2138
01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:19,100
2.1, some people get four. Each

2139
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:25,100
department gets to make the decision

2140
01:59:25,100 --> 01:59:27,100
when they are using it for

2141
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:28,100
pay-for-performance. This can adjust

2142
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:31,100
the base rate if they have the room in

2143
01:59:31,100 --> 01:59:33,100
the range. It can be a lump-sum if they

2144
01:59:33,100 --> 01:59:38,401
are at max or a combination of both. If

2145
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:41,100
you are at max you get a combination

2146
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:42,100
because it's 1.93 for structure to your

2147
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:45,601
base and the remaining lump-sum. This

2148
01:59:55,100 --> 01:59:56,100
would cost approximately 4.6 million to

2149
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:57,100
the general fund 2.5 million and with

2150
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:59,401
the benefit load 3 million.

2151
02:00:08,100 --> 02:00:12,201
[indiscernible]I would like to ask that

2152
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:22,601
we revisit the one-time award, current

2153
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:32,100
policy is the directors and elected

2154
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:33,100
officials can award one-time awards

2155
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:35,100
between $50 and 5000 for project-based

2156
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:39,201
awards. They are required to keep the

2157
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:41,100
documentation on that. I keep a list of

2158
02:00:41,100 --> 02:00:42,100
how many to make sure for the board

2159
02:00:42,100 --> 02:00:46,201
direction nobody is abusing it no one

2160
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:51,100
has. We've had the average award of

2161
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:52,100
$1130. We've had an average of 70

2162
02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:56,201
awards given in the year. As those

2163
02:00:57,100 --> 02:01:00,100
numbers increase, as salaries increase,

2164
02:01:08,100 --> 02:01:09,100
the one-time award capped at 5000 does

2165
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:10,100
not always reflect the level of impact

2166
02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:14,801
some of these projects make. So I am

2167
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:19,100
requesting we increase it to 7500 the

2168
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:21,100
gross up award and the cost would be

2169
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:23,100
56,000 a year. Commissioner campbell

2170
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:26,601
>> two questions. Please remind me this

2171
02:01:28,100 --> 02:01:30,100
comes from each department or office

2172
02:01:30,100 --> 02:01:34,100
budget. So they have to find the money

2173
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:36,100
for this. Do we have data since you are

2174
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:39,100
tracking, are these awards normally

2175
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:45,100
given to higher classified employees or

2176
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:48,100
lower classified? Usually lower. They

2177
02:01:48,100 --> 02:01:52,201
are project-based so it depends on the

2178
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:56,601
project. Covid for an example 5 years

2179
02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:02,100
ago, we had tiers of people who worked

2180
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:03,100
on it so we had tier 1 and who was

2181
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:05,100
working on it based on hours and

2182
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:09,201
impact. We had a variety in that.

2183
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:13,100
usually it is the lower paid employees

2184
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:16,100
that are asked to take on an additional

2185
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:18,100
project that receive these

2186
02:02:18,100 --> 02:02:20,100
>> okay. So when we say the cost,

2187
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:24,201
that's based on average. But we do

2188
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:29,100
baseline budgeting so it's not like a

2189
02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:33,201
fixed asked from the general fund? It's

2190
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:36,100
not.

2191
02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:37,100
>> it is estimating based on averages

2192
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:39,100
and number of awards. They still have

2193
02:02:39,100 --> 02:02:43,201
to find the money. Okay great cool

2194
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:50,100
thank you

2195
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:54,801
>> the next ask is for the das office.

2196
02:02:57,100 --> 02:02:58,100
they would like to address their new

2197
02:02:58,100 --> 02:02:59,100
higher rates and do compression

2198
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:02,601
adjustments to go with that. The

2199
02:03:04,100 --> 02:03:08,100
average salary of dda is 98,000 and the

2200
02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:12,201
average salary for the dda one is

2201
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:23,100
117,000. What they are experiencing is

2202
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:24,100
sometimes it's hard to get dda to move

2203
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:25,100
from organizations that have this

2204
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:29,201
average to a new hiring lower than

2205
02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:32,100
that. Our new hire rate for the dda is

2206
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:35,601
92,000, for dda one it is 102,000. The

2207
02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:39,100
other thing they are experiencing other

2208
02:03:39,100 --> 02:03:43,201
than being able to attract at lower

2209
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:45,100
numbers than average is that they are

2210
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:47,100
having trouble motivating the county dda

2211
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:51,100
to take on extra work load and impact

2212
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:55,100
of the dda one going from investigator

2213
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:56,100
felonies if there's not a big enough

2214
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:58,401
differential between the salaries.

2215
02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:03,100
there is a feeling for them the

2216
02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:06,100
internal promotions are not motivating

2217
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:09,100
and they are unable to attract from her

2218
02:04:09,100 --> 02:04:12,601
peers for their vacancies. They did

2219
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:19,201
work with us we are recommending a

2220
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:26,100
higher promotional rate for dda to 95 and

2221
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:27,100
the dda 1 to 114,000 plus providing

2222
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:30,100
compression for everybody that is in

2223
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:33,601
their roles. That cost is about

2224
02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:37,100
$90,200. One of the things we have

2225
02:04:37,100 --> 02:04:40,100
additionally requested and are working

2226
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:41,100
with them on, they have more levels

2227
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:45,801
than the market does. One of the ways

2228
02:04:49,100 --> 02:04:50,100
we could create that deferential is by

2229
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:51,100
taking out the dda one level and going

2230
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:54,100
from county dda to dda two. When we say

2231
02:04:54,100 --> 02:04:57,100
the average dda one is 117, that's a

2232
02:04:57,100 --> 02:05:00,100
blend of one and two because the

2233
02:05:00,100 --> 02:05:03,601
market, the peers don't have that.

2234
02:05:07,100 --> 02:05:08,100
there is some more work to be done

2235
02:05:08,100 --> 02:05:10,100
after we get these hiring rates

2236
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:14,801
started. That is a request for comp. I

2237
02:05:19,100 --> 02:05:20,100
will go over a summary of compensation

2238
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:23,100
agreements with the unions which have a

2239
02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:26,601
lot of pending language. Still pending.

2240
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:35,201
we have the fop sworn structure, this

2241
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:41,100
is the original counteroffer of the fop

2242
02:05:41,100 --> 02:05:42,100
asked for five percent we countered

2243
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:46,100
with the 63rd which is where they are

2244
02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:48,401
today, 3.01. The normal step

2245
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:51,100
progression moving from one sub 1 to 7

2246
02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:54,601
two is just over 600,000. The market

2247
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:59,100
increased to remain at the 63rd will be

2248
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:00,100
1.7 million. Sworn management structure

2249
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:04,801
is larger than you see in the past.

2250
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:06,100
part of that is based on where the

2251
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:10,100
sergeant ends up so that will change.

2252
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:13,100
also the lieutenant market moved almost

2253
02:06:13,100 --> 02:06:15,401
12 percent. It moves significantly.

2254
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:20,801
that has an impact on the number. The

2255
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:30,100
cost on this proposal pending

2256
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:31,100
negotiations, about 2.6 million with

2257
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:35,201
benefit load to the general fund. The

2258
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:38,401
emergency communication, those very,

2259
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:43,100
it's an average of 2.95 percent

2260
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:45,100
increase. Step progression 40,000 going

2261
02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:49,201
from step one to step two, 63rd

2262
02:06:53,100 --> 02:06:55,401
percentile 150,000. And total cost 233

2263
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:58,401
with benefit load. Pending

2264
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:03,401
negotiations. Those represented in

2265
02:07:06,100 --> 02:07:09,100
human services, depending on county

2266
02:07:10,100 --> 02:07:11,100
merit decisions. Depending on what you

2267
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:15,100
decide for the merit budget, if that

2268
02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:19,201
was approved, this is based on that.

2269
02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:22,100
the annual increase across-the-board

2270
02:07:22,100 --> 02:07:25,100
for those represented would be 3.6,

2271
02:07:25,100 --> 02:07:28,100
represents a combination of 1.5 and

2272
02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:30,401
2.1, the meets expectations general

2273
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:34,401
starting point for pay-for-performance.

2274
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:39,100
out of the 3.1 percent budget if you

2275
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:40,100
meet expectations he get about 2.1

2276
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:43,100
percent. That's what that represents.

2277
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:48,100
it is 1.3 million with benefit load. In

2278
02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:49,100
addition there are nine jobs being

2279
02:07:49,100 --> 02:07:52,100
reclassified to higher grades, those

2280
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:58,601
cost about 2800. For ffm, the 3.6 which

2281
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:10,100
represents 156,000, 185,000 with

2282
02:08:13,100 --> 02:08:14,100
benefit load. They don't have anybody

2283
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:15,100
being [indiscernible] last year there

2284
02:08:15,100 --> 02:08:18,601
were several, custodians went up two

2285
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:22,100
grades. Nothing getting re-class this

2286
02:08:22,100 --> 02:08:26,801
year and no cost in addition to that.

2287
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:32,100
the cost summary, and again it's a

2288
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:36,100
chart every year I get to test your

2289
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:39,601
eyes. One benefit proposal column, to

2290
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:45,100
comp proposals our recommendation I

2291
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:46,100
would not put it in the presentation if

2292
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:50,801
I was not recommending it. In the white

2293
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:55,801
is total cost, in the gray is the

2294
02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:57,100
general fund. At the bottom with

2295
02:08:57,100 --> 02:09:00,100
benefit load for the recommended

2296
02:09:01,100 --> 02:09:04,100
package. Everything in compensation one

2297
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:09,100
and all benefits with benefit load to

2298
02:09:09,100 --> 02:09:12,100
general fund 10.18 million. The only

2299
02:09:14,100 --> 02:09:16,100
difference for option two is not

2300
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:20,100
funding the market, just doing the cost

2301
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:24,100
for minimum, no da and no one-time

2302
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:27,601
award. There are your totals. Well

2303
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:44,201
done. Here are the timelines. Some of

2304
02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:05,100
the timeline is missing. We did not

2305
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:09,201
like the timeline apparently. We are at

2306
02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:16,100
the third box. The ebc meeting budget

2307
02:10:16,100 --> 02:10:18,100
request is september 8, that's where

2308
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:21,100
they [indiscernible] your comp. Open

2309
02:10:24,100 --> 02:10:26,401
enrollment is october 28 through

2310
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:31,100
november 12. Study session for the

2311
02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:36,100
budget october 20, november 10 is when

2312
02:10:36,100 --> 02:10:37,100
compensation will send out performance

2313
02:10:37,100 --> 02:10:40,601
ratings to the directors and elected

2314
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:46,100
officials. November 21, supervisors

2315
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:47,100
will need to complete writing their

2316
02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:49,100
performance evaluations. December 1

2317
02:10:53,100 --> 02:10:54,100
through the eighth the directors and

2318
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:55,100
elected officials conduct calibration

2319
02:10:55,100 --> 02:10:58,601
meetings if needed for review. December

2320
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:01,100
9 directors elected officials send

2321
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:04,100
performance rating budget back to

2322
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:05,100
compensation. December 8 is the

2323
02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:08,601
adoption of the budget. December 15 is

2324
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:16,100
when we will open the spreadsheets

2325
02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:19,100
[indiscernible] so change in the

2326
02:11:19,100 --> 02:11:21,401
system. December 29 directors and

2327
02:11:22,100 --> 02:11:25,100
elected officials submit final merit

2328
02:11:26,100 --> 02:11:27,100
within my arapahoe. January 7 the pay

2329
02:11:27,100 --> 02:11:31,100
increase letters will be released in my

2330
02:11:31,100 --> 02:11:35,201
arapahoe. We will be in the system.

2331
02:11:37,100 --> 02:11:38,100
january 15, pay increases and benefit

2332
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:41,601
changes are reflected on pay checks.

2333
02:11:43,100 --> 02:11:47,801
that's all I've got. Would you like to

2334
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:55,801
go back to medical. Sure let's go back

2335
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:03,401
to medical. 9.5 percent increase.

2336
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:19,100
commissioners?

2337
02:12:19,100 --> 02:12:20,100
>> can you put the slide back up?

2338
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:23,601
>> [indiscernible] I just think this is

2339
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:35,100
a thoughtful approach [speaker off mic]

2340
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:38,601
the county is contributing and the

2341
02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:48,100
out-of-pocket expense for employees

2342
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:49,100
[indiscernible] I think it's a very

2343
02:12:49,100 --> 02:12:50,100
fair approach

2344
02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:51,100
>> me too

2345
02:12:51,100 --> 02:12:52,100
>> we don't even need to discuss, five

2346
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:56,201
thumbs up. Are we thumbs up for

2347
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:24,100
retirement?

2348
02:13:24,100 --> 02:13:28,801
>>I see. Do we have thumbs for the

2349
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:36,100
retirement contribution changing? Five

2350
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:39,601
thumbs up for the contribution change.

2351
02:13:40,100 --> 02:13:43,100
commissioner warren gully. Can you

2352
02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:50,601
remind me or [indiscernible]I just

2353
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:55,100
wondered about I think we have a goal

2354
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:57,100
we are getting to. If I remember right

2355
02:13:57,100 --> 02:14:00,100
it is 11 percent? Yes. [indiscernible]

2356
02:14:10,100 --> 02:14:13,100
>> okay, that's everything I need from

2357
02:14:13,100 --> 02:14:16,100
benefits thank you, generally there's

2358
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:18,100
some direction given to the ebc on what

2359
02:14:18,100 --> 02:14:22,201
direction you want to take for comp.

2360
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:30,401
>> we are on the ebc. Tell me what you

2361
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:34,601
would like from us on that

2362
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:37,100
conversation. Generally it looks like

2363
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:40,100
what could you reevaluate, what would

2364
02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:44,100
not get done if we do this proposal

2365
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:47,601
first. It looks something like that

2366
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:49,100
that direction.

2367
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:51,401
>> I'm looking at todd.

2368
02:14:54,100 --> 02:14:55,100
>> obviously with the budget process we

2369
02:14:55,100 --> 02:14:59,100
have to figure out what we can afford

2370
02:14:59,100 --> 02:15:00,100
based on the other request you receive

2371
02:15:00,100 --> 02:15:03,100
at some point later this fall. I think

2372
02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:07,801
usually what we go into the ebc process

2373
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:10,100
with is do commissioners feel

2374
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:11,100
comfortable with the request or

2375
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:14,601
recommendation put forth today? Is that

2376
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:16,100
what you want the executive budget

2377
02:15:16,100 --> 02:15:17,100
committee to fit in the budget. If it

2378
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:21,100
does not fit bring it back to the full

2379
02:15:21,100 --> 02:15:23,100
board. Is there anything about the

2380
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:24,100
compensation portion of the

2381
02:15:24,100 --> 02:15:28,100
presentation you as a full board would

2382
02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:29,100
like to have the executive budget

2383
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:31,100
committee look at differently than what

2384
02:15:31,100 --> 02:15:32,100
is proposed? Commissioner warren gully

2385
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:35,100
>> thank you madam chair. I guess what

2386
02:15:35,100 --> 02:15:39,100
I would want to start off by saying I

2387
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:43,201
really want to thank our labor partners

2388
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:47,100
and the whole team here for coming

2389
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:50,601
together. Last year was a really

2390
02:15:51,100 --> 02:15:52,100
difficult budget year because we had

2391
02:15:52,100 --> 02:15:55,100
not gotten things all the way through

2392
02:15:55,100 --> 02:15:59,801
and this is new for us in arapahoe

2393
02:16:04,100 --> 02:16:05,100
county. I feel like there was a lot of

2394
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:06,100
thoughtful purposeful work around how

2395
02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:08,100
can we line up a timeline that gives us

2396
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:12,201
the ability to really receive and put

2397
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:19,801
from asme and the fop and also to

2398
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:24,100
figure out how are we going to do this

2399
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:25,100
and how will that be reflected across

2400
02:16:25,100 --> 02:16:26,100
the rest of the staff. I just wanted to

2401
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:31,100
say thank you for that. This is a big

2402
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:34,601
change for the way the organization

2403
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:38,100
does compensation. I felt it went much

2404
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:41,100
smoother this time than last year.

2405
02:16:41,100 --> 02:16:44,601
thank you very much for that.

2406
02:16:50,100 --> 02:16:52,401
>> commissioners? What are you

2407
02:16:53,100 --> 02:16:57,100
thinking? I wanted to make sure, I

2408
02:16:57,100 --> 02:17:00,601
don't know if commissioner fields has

2409
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:02,100
any questions. But, I know what kind of

2410
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:06,201
work goes into this. It's a team

2411
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:09,100
effort. It's not only dusty although

2412
02:17:09,100 --> 02:17:13,100
she is the presenter, I know she gets

2413
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:16,100
input from a lot of different corridors

2414
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:17,100
in arapahoe county. The amount of work

2415
02:17:17,100 --> 02:17:21,801
that goes into it, medical, man, what a

2416
02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:28,201
system in america we've got. So thank

2417
02:17:34,100 --> 02:17:35,100
you for lifting the veil so to speak

2418
02:17:35,100 --> 02:17:39,100
and making that a little clearer. We

2419
02:17:39,100 --> 02:17:43,201
see behind the veil altogether. We wish

2420
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:51,100
there were way more options then I

2421
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:54,100
think we have. It's important for us to

2422
02:17:54,100 --> 02:17:57,100
understand it. And the effort the team

2423
02:17:57,100 --> 02:18:01,201
is going through to get peoples input.

2424
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:04,100
because we could speculate what people

2425
02:18:04,100 --> 02:18:06,100
will use and what they won't use.

2426
02:18:06,100 --> 02:18:09,100
sometimes we are right and sometimes we

2427
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:14,100
are off by a little bit. You've done a

2428
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:18,100
pretty good job. I like retirement as

2429
02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:22,801
someone who is close, two years away. I

2430
02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:27,801
think we are doing a great job in

2431
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:32,100
meeting our obligations. I do consider

2432
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,100
it an obligation. We said we were going

2433
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:36,601
to get to 11 percent. Without raising

2434
02:18:39,100 --> 02:18:40,100
the employee contribution. So we'd be

2435
02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:44,201
more in line with what's going around.

2436
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:46,100
just really kudos, compensation we have

2437
02:18:46,100 --> 02:18:50,801
to wait until the last minute. It seems

2438
02:18:53,100 --> 02:18:54,100
like a lot of times before we have all

2439
02:18:54,100 --> 02:18:55,100
of the information we need to make a

2440
02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:59,201
good decision. Hang in there for the

2441
02:19:00,100 --> 02:19:02,401
rest of the story

2442
02:19:06,100 --> 02:19:07,100
>> commissioner fields? It's already

2443
02:19:07,100 --> 02:19:10,100
been stated, well done come a

2444
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:13,100
well-thought-out. I like the way you do

2445
02:19:13,100 --> 02:19:16,100
the comparisons. As it relates to

2446
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:17,100
market value in denver and other

2447
02:19:17,100 --> 02:19:19,100
locations as a benchmark. It appears by

2448
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:22,601
what you presented that arapahoe county

2449
02:19:26,100 --> 02:19:30,801
is in a strong position as it relates

2450
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:35,100
to employee retention, benefits. I

2451
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:38,601
think the future looks bright. Except

2452
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:45,801
for ai. When you have that slide about

2453
02:19:49,100 --> 02:19:50,100
ai and having to lower salaries because

2454
02:19:50,100 --> 02:19:52,100
of the skill set of jobs or

2455
02:19:52,100 --> 02:19:55,100
responsibilities, ai was taking that

2456
02:19:56,100 --> 02:19:58,100
over. I was trying to picture what that

2457
02:19:58,100 --> 02:20:01,100
conversation is like without employee.

2458
02:20:03,100 --> 02:20:04,100
can you describe what it's like when

2459
02:20:04,100 --> 02:20:07,100
someone may be it is a patrick

2460
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:08,100
question, when you are looking at

2461
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:11,100
salary and it has to be reduced. I know

2462
02:20:11,100 --> 02:20:15,201
it had on there we [indiscernible]. It

2463
02:20:16,100 --> 02:20:19,601
wasn't necessarily for us. . Okay that

2464
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:40,100
would be a tough conversation I'm glad

2465
02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:41,100
to hear we are not doing that at this

2466
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:42,100
point.

2467
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:46,100
>> as far as I'm aware, it's a toolset

2468
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:50,801
for us, a resource it's not doing the

2469
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:54,100
job for us. [indiscernible]. That

2470
02:20:56,100 --> 02:20:59,601
clarification helps a lot thank you.

2471
02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:07,801
>> on your bsr we have covered all the

2472
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:09,100
staff recommendations. So what else do

2473
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:13,801
you want from us? I think it's just

2474
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:15,100
todd's question, do you have any

2475
02:21:15,100 --> 02:21:18,100
concerns about the comp presentation.

2476
02:21:20,100 --> 02:21:21,100
we have no concerns at least I don't

2477
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:24,601
does anybody else have concerns? I

2478
02:21:25,100 --> 02:21:26,100
don't think so I think you came in here

2479
02:21:26,100 --> 02:21:27,100
and knocked it out of the park and

2480
02:21:27,100 --> 02:21:30,100
answered all of our questions, we gave

2481
02:21:30,100 --> 02:21:34,201
some thumbs. We expect things to go

2482
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:36,100
smoothly.

2483
02:21:36,100 --> 02:21:39,601
>>we have no questions. Thank you.

2484
02:21:45,100 --> 02:21:48,601
thank you very very much. [applause].

2485
02:21:53,100 --> 02:21:56,601
>>lovely, let's take a couple of

2486
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:02,100
minutes to change the room.

2487
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:08,100
>>

2488
02:29:43,100 --> 02:29:45,100
>>

2489
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:13,401
>>. Let's get started with

2490
02:31:01,100 --> 02:31:02,100
introductions jeff baker commissioner

2491
02:31:02,100 --> 02:31:03,100
michelle hallstead commissioner's office

2492
02:31:03,100 --> 02:31:04,100
leslie summey commissioner

2493
02:31:04,100 --> 02:31:06,401
[indiscernible] carrie warren gully

2494
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:09,100
commissioner [indiscernible] director

2495
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:13,100
for centennial park jessica campbell

2496
02:31:13,100 --> 02:31:16,100
commissioner district 2. Thank you very

2497
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:20,100
very much. I'm sorry mr. Saraceno for

2498
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:24,201
cutting in front of you for that

2499
02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:27,100
introduction. We are here for a drop in

2500
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:28,100
for the airport improvement program

2501
02:31:28,100 --> 02:31:31,601
grant for the public airport authority.

2502
02:31:32,100 --> 02:31:33,100
[indiscernible] what do you have for us

2503
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:34,100
today sir

2504
02:31:34,100 --> 02:31:37,100
>> thank you commissioner summey. We

2505
02:31:41,100 --> 02:31:42,100
are here for what's called a service

2506
02:31:42,100 --> 02:31:45,100
award initiative vehicle movement area

2507
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:49,100
transponders. Centennial airport was

2508
02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:50,100
one of the first in the country to have

2509
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:52,100
a service awareness initiative, that

2510
02:31:52,100 --> 02:31:55,100
allows the tower to see aircraft on the

2511
02:31:55,100 --> 02:31:59,801
ground even if they have a cloud deck,

2512
02:32:01,100 --> 02:32:02,100
bad visibility. We are one of the first

2513
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:06,201
airports in the country to have that.

2514
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:10,100
they've expanded that, obviously there

2515
02:32:10,100 --> 02:32:11,100
was a horrible accident between the

2516
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:13,100
fire truck and aircraft, as a result of

2517
02:32:13,100 --> 02:32:16,100
that the ffa is handing out grants

2518
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:19,100
making them available to airports to

2519
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:22,100
expand that system. You have

2520
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:25,100
transponder on all airport vehicles not

2521
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:26,100
only will they be able to see the

2522
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:28,100
aircraft but they will be able to see

2523
02:32:28,100 --> 02:32:29,100
[indiscernible] which is especially

2524
02:32:29,100 --> 02:32:32,100
important during the winter, being able

2525
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:35,100
to see that because we have low

2526
02:32:35,100 --> 02:32:36,100
visibility, and can't see what's going

2527
02:32:36,100 --> 02:32:40,100
on on the ground. We are coming to you

2528
02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:44,801
to ask for the board to support grant

2529
02:32:51,100 --> 02:32:54,601
[indiscernible] one grant too far. Our

2530
02:33:05,100 --> 02:33:08,100
original recommendation john thank you

2531
02:33:08,100 --> 02:33:09,100
for joining us was to come to you we

2532
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:12,601
were anticipating getting the grant in

2533
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:15,100
mid-september. The faa has decided to

2534
02:33:15,100 --> 02:33:17,100
drop it on as early. Now we expect the

2535
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:19,100
grant to come out very soon, possibly

2536
02:33:19,100 --> 02:33:24,401
in the next week or so. So, we are

2537
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:27,100
changing our recommendation we are

2538
02:33:27,100 --> 02:33:29,100
asking from the board. We are asking

2539
02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:33,801
today to have the board allow the chair

2540
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:36,100
to sign the grant and have it ratified

2541
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:39,100
at the september 8 county board

2542
02:33:39,100 --> 02:33:43,100
meeting. That's what our ask is. The

2543
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:46,601
total grant amount will be 115,000 and

2544
02:33:49,100 --> 02:33:50,100
the airport will be required to do the

2545
02:33:50,100 --> 02:33:51,100
five percent match and we have that

2546
02:33:51,100 --> 02:33:54,601
budgeted so it's not a problem.

2547
02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:01,100
commissioner campbell

2548
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:03,100
>> we prefer to give you the authority

2549
02:34:03,100 --> 02:34:04,100
before but we have done this in the

2550
02:34:04,100 --> 02:34:05,100
past where they come up and in this

2551
02:34:05,100 --> 02:34:08,100
case we are a year out on break.

2552
02:34:08,100 --> 02:34:11,601
normally we would have something about

2553
02:34:12,100 --> 02:34:13,100
there. It's not uncommon for us to do

2554
02:34:13,100 --> 02:34:16,601
that and have the ratification, it

2555
02:34:17,100 --> 02:34:18,100
clean set up. To add to that now that

2556
02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:21,100
we know the grant is coming sooner, the

2557
02:34:21,100 --> 02:34:23,100
ffa once it back early september, so we

2558
02:34:23,100 --> 02:34:27,801
have a rush to get it signed. My

2559
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:32,100
question was about the language in the

2560
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:33,100
grants we've been discussing over

2561
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:36,100
several years just verifying. Sometimes

2562
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:37,100
as we know things with this

2563
02:34:37,100 --> 02:34:40,601
administration are a moving target. I

2564
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:47,100
have not seen the language but I see it

2565
02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:48,100
before commissioner summey waits for

2566
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:50,100
asu can sign this now. But I will

2567
02:34:50,100 --> 02:34:54,201
verify the language has not been, the

2568
02:34:55,100 --> 02:34:56,100
language we've been concerned with has

2569
02:34:56,100 --> 02:35:00,201
not been in these grants. We don't

2570
02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:03,100
anticipate any changes but we will look

2571
02:35:03,100 --> 02:35:09,100
at it and you will look at it to make

2572
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:15,100
sure. Commissioner baker

2573
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:16,100
>> this is kind of a weird question but

2574
02:35:16,100 --> 02:35:17,100
is it a notice of funding opportunity

2575
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:21,100
that comes out? Or something else? For

2576
02:35:21,100 --> 02:35:25,100
the faa. I'm wondering if they are like

2577
02:35:25,100 --> 02:35:28,100
what transportation does. Correct they

2578
02:35:29,100 --> 02:35:30,100
made us aware that the funds were

2579
02:35:30,100 --> 02:35:31,100
available for make additions to the

2580
02:35:31,100 --> 02:35:34,100
system and then we applied for the

2581
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:36,100
grant. And now we have been awarded

2582
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:39,601
that grant amount. It is nofo

2583
02:35:45,100 --> 02:35:46,100
originated yes. We got it through the

2584
02:35:46,100 --> 02:35:49,100
faa local airport district office. They

2585
02:35:49,100 --> 02:35:52,100
are pretty good about communicating.

2586
02:35:52,100 --> 02:35:55,100
they knew we already had the system,

2587
02:35:55,100 --> 02:35:59,100
the foundation system in place in the

2588
02:35:59,100 --> 02:36:00,100
tower. They knew we would be a good

2589
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:03,100
airport to roll it out on. So this is

2590
02:36:03,100 --> 02:36:07,100
an enhancement what does it do? The

2591
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:10,100
current system just sees our aircraft

2592
02:36:10,100 --> 02:36:13,100
on the ground, the new system adds

2593
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:15,100
transponders to the vehicles so we can

2594
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:17,100
see the vehicles. How many transponders

2595
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:21,201
do we get? 34. Cool. We have five

2596
02:36:26,100 --> 02:36:29,601
thumbs up to take their money.

2597
02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:36,100
>> [indiscernible]thank you very much

2598
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:45,100
we have some exciting stuff coming so.

2599
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:49,801
more money we have found. You are about

2600
02:36:52,100 --> 02:36:55,601
the only one. Thank you mike.