1 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:18,000 Meeting everybody, before we start, the city council just met on three closed session items, and there is nothing to report out at this time. 2 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:23,700 Good evening and thank you for viewing the June 12th special meeting of the Arcade of City Council. 3 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:30,300 The City Council meeting is being held as a hybrid meeting with both in person, attendance, and teleconference access via Zoom. 4 00:01:30,980 --> 00:01:38,300 As this is a special meeting, we will take public comment now at the beginning of the meeting, and only for items that are on the agenda. 5 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:47,640 If you're interested in providing public comments on the consent calendar, the budget or the November elections, please line up at the podium or raise your zoom hand now. 6 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:52,220 You'll take in person comments first and then move to zoom. We're not going to go back and forth. 7 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,620 So line up after we do our ceremonial matter. 8 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,520 So this is a proclamation and celebration of the 4th of July. 9 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,200 you believe which will be July 4th, 2024 and this proclamation will be read by Council Member 10 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Reckon Selazar. 11 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,620 Thank you. 12 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:17,520 In celebration of the 4th of July, Jubilee, whereas the city of Arcada, known for its vibrant 13 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,660 community spirit and commitment to fostering local businesses, recognizes the importance 14 00:02:22,660 --> 00:02:27,480 of celebrating our nation's independence and the contributions of our local commerce. 15 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:33,320 And whereas, the Arcade of Chamber of Commerce has organized a grand event to commemorate 16 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,160 the significant, this significant day with the festive celebration that brings together 17 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:44,100 businesses, residents, and visitors alike, and whereas, the Jubilee promises to be a 18 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:49,720 day filled with joy, camaraderie, and entertainment featuring activities, live music, local 19 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,040 artisans, and food vendors that highlight the diverse talents of our local community. 20 00:02:54,040 --> 00:03:00,120 And whereas, this event not only provides an opportunity for our community members to come together 21 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:06,540 and enjoy the festive atmosphere, but also acts as a catalyst for the growth and success of our local economy, 22 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:12,600 creating a platform for businesses to showcase their offerings and gain exposure to a wider audience. 23 00:03:13,140 --> 00:03:20,220 And whereas, the Jubilee is the longest running event on the Arcade of Plaza dating back over 150 years. 24 00:03:20,220 --> 00:03:25,380 Therefore, be it resolved that the City Council of the City of Arquita encourages all residents 25 00:03:25,380 --> 00:03:30,400 to attend the Arquita Chamber of Commerce 4th of July, Jubilee on the Arquita Plaza 26 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,680 on Thursday, July 4th, signed by our mayor, Meredith Matthews. 27 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,680 And we have JD Garcia Valencia from the Chamber to accept. 28 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:46,290 Can we dance? 29 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:46,710 Yeah. 30 00:03:46,890 --> 00:03:47,810 Granted, I can do it. 31 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:49,730 And JD, you're welcome to say a few words. 32 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:50,450 It should be preferred. 33 00:03:50,510 --> 00:03:51,790 Thank you so much. 34 00:03:51,790 --> 00:03:56,790 Council members, community members, on behalf of the Arcade at Chamber of Commerce, I'd 35 00:03:56,790 --> 00:04:02,410 like to express our deepest gratitude for this proclamation, the folks over at the Chamber 36 00:04:02,410 --> 00:04:07,830 are doing wonderful work in our community and this is definitely a grand event, so thank you. 37 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:09,670 Thank you so much. 38 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,820 All right, let's go to public comment. Remember this is a special meeting, 39 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,180 we're only going to be taking public comment. Once the top of the meeting and only for items 40 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:24,600 that they are on the agenda, so if you have public comment today, now it's your time. 41 00:04:25,340 --> 00:04:26,580 Yes, on the agenda? 42 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:28,520 On the agenda, at a session. 43 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:36,400 So we are talking about budget, and we are talking about the tax, and we are talking about declaring the public election. 44 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Well, I was thinking the opposite that wasn't on the, that's our normal routine. 45 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,660 So, I wasn't quite prepared for this. 46 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:58,020 I would, okay, let's go with an article that I was reading on safe parking, that's on the agenda, right? 47 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:00,680 It's interesting that the article- 48 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,680 No, it's not on the agenda. 49 00:05:02,980 --> 00:05:03,720 It's a bunch of nights. 50 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:04,620 So go ahead. 51 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:06,340 Okay. 52 00:05:10,690 --> 00:05:17,190 I'm just curious about this, because there's an article in the post journal on this, and it gives out a price from Arcata 53 00:05:17,190 --> 00:05:25,970 house of $477,477,000 and then on your agenda I mean I don't remember I read it 54 00:05:25,970 --> 00:05:31,190 and I'm Friday but I think it's like 670,000 that's what you're saying that the 55 00:05:31,190 --> 00:05:38,810 safe parking is costiness and I think we've also had sessions where it was in 700 and 56 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:43,950 something so I think we need to have some clarity of exactly what this program 57 00:05:43,950 --> 00:05:49,950 pass because I've seen three different price ranges where some of them are off by a couple 58 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:55,830 hundred thousand dollars. So the other area that I would get into from reading that article 59 00:05:55,830 --> 00:06:02,410 is to that we're sort of letting people we give money for these programs and they sound very 60 00:06:02,410 --> 00:06:08,670 good and things that problems that we want to solve but we sort of the valuation of these programs 61 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:13,930 which we've put out a lot of money for as sort of left in this case for the person who 62 00:06:13,930 --> 00:06:19,950 evaluate in themselves. So questions I would have on this program itself. It looked like it was 63 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:26,350 a warehouse and I was a parking lot and you know it's some pretty serious money that basically 64 00:06:26,350 --> 00:06:30,490 we're not going to have that program because we don't have the funding anymore. So I would 65 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:37,090 address what was what was the run on that? I mean it seems like a lot of money got used up quickly 66 00:06:37,090 --> 00:06:41,790 for something that was, you know, you were proud of and successful for. 67 00:06:42,730 --> 00:06:47,310 And also, I think in that article, they mentioned three meals a day. 68 00:06:47,910 --> 00:06:52,870 I recall one community member going out there and sort of they were a little disappointed 69 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:57,730 from the standpoint of there's some cold cereal and some coffee. 70 00:06:59,470 --> 00:07:03,570 So there's another example of if you're going to have three meals a day, maybe like, 71 00:07:03,570 --> 00:07:08,630 you know, tell us what you're actually serving these people to, you know, that this money is 72 00:07:08,630 --> 00:07:14,490 going towards, you know, it just needs, I mean, this is the basic question of all government 73 00:07:14,490 --> 00:07:15,350 from the standpoint. 74 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:23,230 We spend, I mean, California has spent billions of dollars addressing homelessness and the money 75 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:33,330 just like goes and it's just a bandaid and there's nobody really like looking at what was 76 00:07:33,330 --> 00:07:38,890 bang for the buck and succeeded in feeding people, taking care of people, setting up goals 77 00:07:38,890 --> 00:07:41,530 for the future so that it wasn't just a bandate. 78 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:50,310 So that's why basic a summary for your whole budget in a way is that nobody really critiques 79 00:07:50,310 --> 00:07:50,930 it too well. 80 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:56,370 It just kind of like, here it is, sounds good, let's vote for it, and that's it, and there's 81 00:07:56,370 --> 00:08:01,430 never really too much follow through on the standpoint of what was successful and what's 82 00:08:01,430 --> 00:08:09,410 help us in the future because obviously our state is like 75 billion I think in deficit so there's going to be cutbacks. 83 00:08:09,970 --> 00:08:13,390 Thank you. Anybody else for a public comment? Do you have anybody online? 84 00:08:14,330 --> 00:08:19,010 If there are any people online that would like to make public comment please raise your zoom hand now. 85 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:25,590 This is a special meeting so we will be only taking public comment on all the items that are on the agenda now. 86 00:08:25,810 --> 00:08:28,610 If you'd like to make public comment please raise your hand now. 87 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:34,850 There is no online public comment. 88 00:08:35,030 --> 00:08:35,650 All right. 89 00:08:35,830 --> 00:08:38,510 Close public comment and let's move to the consent calendar. 90 00:08:39,270 --> 00:08:41,990 All matters on the consent calendar are considered to be routine 91 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:44,570 about the city council and are enacted in one motion. 92 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:47,130 There is no separate discussion of any of these items. 93 00:08:47,710 --> 00:08:50,770 If discussion is required, that item is removed from the consent calendar 94 00:08:50,770 --> 00:08:54,150 and considered separately at the end of the reading of the consent calendar. 95 00:08:54,590 --> 00:08:58,110 Council members can request an item be removed for separate discussion. 96 00:08:58,110 --> 00:09:04,530 Item A is approved the fiscal year 2024 25 senior resource centers Arcada Community Center 97 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:09,670 application and permit use of the facilities wave usage fees associated with the 98 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:14,390 season your resource centers meal and activity programs at the Arcada Community Center 99 00:09:14,390 --> 00:09:19,190 and authorize the city manager to execute all applicable documents through 2030. 100 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:26,890 B is to adopt resolution number 234-60 approving the fiscal year 2024 25 annual 101 00:09:26,890 --> 00:09:33,230 report on stormwater drainage maintenance fee for all non-tax exempt parcels and directing 102 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:39,490 that said fee be collected through property tax rules for fiscal year 202425 and 103 00:09:39,490 --> 00:09:43,990 see is approved amendments to the agreement between the city of Arcada and the humble 104 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:50,130 transit authority HTA for operations and maintenance of the Arcada and mad river transit system 105 00:09:50,130 --> 00:09:59,770 A and MRTS and vehicles and authorize the city manager to execute all applicable documents with any staff or council member like to remove items from the consent calendar. 106 00:10:00,690 --> 00:10:04,730 I don't want to remove anything. I just want to say with regards to the senior resource. 107 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:12,850 It's an invaluable resource to our K to seniors and, you know, as pointed out, nearly 100 meals are served. 108 00:10:12,890 --> 00:10:15,390 It's including delivered meals for those that are homebound. 109 00:10:15,390 --> 00:10:20,790 So I'm just really happy that we're doing this and we'll be renewing it for what five years now. 110 00:10:20,930 --> 00:10:22,090 So we don't want to come in every year. 111 00:10:22,570 --> 00:10:23,930 Thank you. 112 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:24,630 All right. 113 00:10:24,910 --> 00:10:26,430 Anybody else want to pull anything else? 114 00:10:26,570 --> 00:10:27,490 We have a motion. 115 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:33,190 Well, I'll re-bove for the consent calendar, which includes A, B, and C. 116 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:34,410 We'll second. 117 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:35,550 All right. 118 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:36,390 We have a motion. 119 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:39,850 If I may or still mind a second from Council Member White, I'll in favor. 120 00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:40,710 Bye. 121 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:40,950 Bye. 122 00:10:41,810 --> 00:10:42,110 All right. 123 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:46,570 Let's move on to, oh, lovely. 124 00:10:46,570 --> 00:10:48,510 last one. 125 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:50,630 It's move on to old business. 126 00:10:51,210 --> 00:10:57,590 A is public hearing on fiscal year 2024 25 appropriation limit consider adopting resolution 127 00:10:57,590 --> 00:11:08,110 number 234-61 adopting the appropriation limit for FY 2025 public hearing on FY 2425 proposed budget 128 00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:16,490 and consider adoption of resolution number 234-62 adopting the city budget for FY 2024-25. 129 00:11:16,570 --> 00:11:20,010 and can finance director Tabitha Miller give us a staff report please. 130 00:11:20,490 --> 00:11:25,110 Good evening Mayor City Council, so just a couple of logistics items. 131 00:11:25,710 --> 00:11:31,210 One is that you do have a correction to the resolution on your table in front of you and 132 00:11:31,210 --> 00:11:33,150 there's an extra one over there. 133 00:11:33,630 --> 00:11:38,750 I had an error in a calculation in my Excel spreadsheet and so we've updated the numbers. 134 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:45,470 I have also removed what was paragraph six, one of the warehouses on the original resolution 135 00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:49,610 because it doesn't apply to this particular year. 136 00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:52,150 So I apologize for those errors. 137 00:11:53,270 --> 00:11:56,070 And we're going to take these in two separate items. 138 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:58,750 So we'll take the Appropriations GAN limit first. 139 00:11:59,150 --> 00:12:00,950 We'll have go through the process. 140 00:12:01,370 --> 00:12:03,130 And then we'll talk about the budget, 141 00:12:03,390 --> 00:12:04,770 and hopefully you'll adopt that also. 142 00:12:05,610 --> 00:12:07,870 One thing I would ask is that we probably 143 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:10,250 do want to open a public hearing for this. 144 00:12:10,510 --> 00:12:11,690 Have the staff report. 145 00:12:11,690 --> 00:12:19,550 You can take public comment specific to began limit, and then take action on it, and then we'll do the same thing for the budget and that way it's all on record. 146 00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:27,080 I'll make a motion to open the public hearing regarding the appropriations limit for fiscal year 2025. 147 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,000 24 or 25? 148 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:28,840 All second. 149 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,020 Public. 150 00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:37,540 We can have a point of order. 151 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:38,360 We can. 152 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,880 I think our finance directors probably correct that as a public hearing, we probably should 153 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,240 even though it is a special meeting and we don't have to. 154 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,860 So I apologize to the mayor for that. 155 00:12:48,980 --> 00:12:50,320 But we'll just keep moving through. 156 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,680 We have one person online, but not with the hand-offs. 157 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,080 All right. 158 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,660 That's fantastic. 159 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,100 So we have a motion and a second. 160 00:12:55,220 --> 00:12:55,800 All in favor? 161 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Aye. 162 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:56,640 Aye. 163 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Thank you. 164 00:13:01,690 --> 00:13:08,270 So just really quickly, this is something that we are expected to do every year and it's gone through a series of 165 00:13:08,950 --> 00:13:18,310 Propositions so it's been voter initiated over three different periods of time, but basically what it does is it sets both the state and each local government on an annual basis 166 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:26,190 must go through the process of establishing their appropriations limit and this is a sort of what what their total expenditures can be 167 00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:29,410 There are a number of items that are sort of excluded from it. 168 00:13:29,610 --> 00:13:43,170 It really, when it comes right down to it, what it applies to is your general fund taxes and a few fees and other charges, your outside grants for the most part are excluded, your enterprise funds are excluded. 169 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:48,070 So it is limited, we have always had a pretty big margin. 170 00:13:48,250 --> 00:13:54,930 You will remember last year because we had that big margin, the state sort of borrowed, excuse me, is how they termed it. 171 00:13:54,930 --> 00:13:59,770 of our appropriation limit because they had exceeded theirs and they sort of it was how they figured 172 00:13:59,770 --> 00:14:05,710 out they could get around that process. Unfortunately for all of us, they have a pretty 173 00:14:05,710 --> 00:14:12,310 big deficit this year so they do not need to borrow any of our limit anymore. But it is in place 174 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:20,110 to manage spending. So this is, and this is when I calculated these numbers, I discovered 175 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:25,050 the error today but this is it's a pretty simple calculation at the very top you can see 176 00:14:25,050 --> 00:14:29,470 we take the prior year's appropriation limit and then we adjust it for two factors. 177 00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:36,010 One is a price it's actually a per capita income number that the state provides us and then 178 00:14:36,010 --> 00:14:43,490 a population factor. The price factor is an increase unfortunately the population factor is a 179 00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:50,410 increase. So all of, and I'll show you in the next page, all of Humboldt County saw a decrease 180 00:14:50,410 --> 00:14:56,250 in their population this last year. The year before we were actually the only city to have 181 00:14:56,250 --> 00:14:59,970 a population increase. So we actually got a positive bump here. When you put- 182 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:22,040 Those two together, essentially, our factor for growth, is a little over 2%, so we multiply that 1.0202 times our number a, which is our current appropriation limit, the difference, which is the $400,000, $219, $219 is how we increase it. We add that to it. 183 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:30,500 So our appropriations limit for 2425 will be 20 million, 349,412 dollars. 184 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:34,740 When you go through and look at all of the revenues that are subject to the appropriations 185 00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:38,880 limit, we are limited to about 14.5 million. 186 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:46,120 So at the end of the day, we have a surplus or an excess appropriation of just under $5.9 187 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,060 million dollars. 188 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,160 So we still have ample room, we're not even close to budding up against that right now. 189 00:15:52,440 --> 00:16:20,220 I thought it would be interesting just to show you the populations in Humboldt County and as you can see where the top there and we did have a small adjustment down of about a percentage and a half which is pretty consistent with the rest of the county and overall the county is down about 1.11% and again these are numbers that the California Department of Finance provides and it is built into the process that those are the numbers that we have to rely on for our cost and population factors. 190 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:28,580 And with that, because this is pretty simple, I'll take any questions and ask you to evaluate the resolution. 191 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,540 Okay, well since this is a public hearing, open it up for public comment first. 192 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:39,080 Anybody have any questions or comments on the gain on the mid. 193 00:16:39,780 --> 00:16:40,660 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 194 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:43,300 All right, then I'll bring you back to the council. 195 00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:51,500 I'll make a motion to adopt Resolution 234-61 Resolution the City Council City of Arquita, 196 00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:58,100 adopting the 2024 25 appropriations on that under Article 13B of the California Constitution. 197 00:17:01,970 --> 00:17:05,830 All right, we have a motion and a second. Does anybody else have any comments or? 198 00:17:05,910 --> 00:17:06,370 All in favor? 199 00:17:07,410 --> 00:17:09,390 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 200 00:17:09,670 --> 00:17:12,670 Motion passes. And let's move on to Part 2. 201 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:26,440 And then do we need to move to open the public hearing on this is so I would I would ask that you close the public hearing on the gand limit and then we open the public hearing on the budget 202 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:28,640 So I'm over 203 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:35,200 I'll second it if someone's moved to close the public hearing. So moved 204 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:48,320 Second all of favor. Hi. Hi. Hi. All right. Thank you. And so we move on to the adoption of the proposed 2425 budget 205 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Just a brief. Isn't that a nice picture? 206 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:20,260 So just for quickly what we're going to go through tonight is the City Council goals and priority projects. We're going to go through a budget overview. We'll look at some of the programs that we are funding for 2425. We'll look at our ARPA projects sort of some of wrapping up those funds. The capital improvement program. We've got some other considerations I want you just to talk about. 207 00:18:20,260 --> 00:18:21,900 And then we can go through questions. 208 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,180 So these are big picture of these are your goals. 209 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:30,200 There are a little bit more detail in both the budget 210 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,380 book that's online and the one that's in your packet. 211 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:36,060 But I just wanted to remind everybody about how important these 212 00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:38,300 are and that we should be looking and we do. 213 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,200 Look at these as we develop the budget and make sure 214 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,660 that we're really complying and that we're 215 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:46,120 falling through with the policy that you all are establishing. 216 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,080 And so I think it's really important to remind us 217 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,380 of kind of where we're starting out. 218 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:56,780 That doesn't mean that we don't have to take into account state mandates and requirements, but it is behind all of that. 219 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:04,120 Just a kind of an overview of some of your council priority projects for this year, and again, as a part of adopting the budget, 220 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:11,400 you will be adopting re-adopting your goals and establishing the priority projects for the new fiscal year also. 221 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,360 The homeless, homeless reduction strategy, valley-west improvements. 222 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:22,360 We still want to collaborate with other agencies, mental health and social services, public 223 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:27,380 safety, is always a top priority working to improve government relations with the local 224 00:19:27,380 --> 00:19:33,700 tribal governments, economic development strategies, prioritized future planning, implementing 225 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:38,960 the Arcades Arcades Arts, Strategic Plan, Climate Change and Climate Adaptation, Parks 226 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:44,580 improvements, safe streets, our partnership with Cal Poly Humboldt, we want to have Spanish 227 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:49,100 translation of council meetings available, diversity equity and inclusion, and then of course 228 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:53,520 supporting our capital improvement project, which continues to be a pretty large portion 229 00:19:53,520 --> 00:20:02,980 of the city's budget. I went through an exercise to take the $87.6 million expenditure budget 230 00:20:02,980 --> 00:20:08,620 for this year and match it to those goals. And so this is a little bit subjective because it was 231 00:20:08,620 --> 00:20:16,820 trying to put it into place but there's also a lot of overlap and what I found is that you 232 00:20:16,820 --> 00:20:22,760 really are matching and meeting many of your goals and I would just again kind of put it 233 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:28,680 out there that you may want to look at how much of the dollars are going to each of those areas 234 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,340 and if there's something that you want to adjust at some point in the future that's something you 235 00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:37,500 can consider but safety and livability is the largest portion and that's not surprising because 236 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:43,480 its public safety and its safety and comforts and it really includes your police department. 237 00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:49,560 You think about things that are for safety and comfort of your citizens, water and sewer 238 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,180 services. 239 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,920 It's awfully nice to have water come to your house and then have the dirty water taken 240 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,740 away. 241 00:20:56,540 --> 00:21:00,740 So that really is going to be the bulk of what we do and it's also really the essential services 242 00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:01,560 that are provided. 243 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,340 I was a little surprised but it works out well. 244 00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:10,800 environment is our second largest factor at 13%. And again, if you think about sort of the 245 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,440 things that we're doing right now, especially in our capital projects, you're investing 246 00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:21,260 in your parks, your forest, and also again in your environment with clean water. Both your water 247 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:27,940 and your wastewater projects are about making sure that the water that is out there and is returned 248 00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:32,560 into the system is clean and safe. And so you're making a pretty big kind of use in there. 249 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520 ask a quick question and here it says it's 20% 250 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,440 of the second which is the future 251 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,360 educational opportunities and those kinds of things 252 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,360 that we're included. 253 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,860 You are correct. 254 00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:49,100 You are correct. 255 00:21:49,580 --> 00:21:51,420 It's me going in order and not paying attention 256 00:21:51,420 --> 00:21:52,380 to my own graph. 257 00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:54,480 So you are correct. 258 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,100 So the future. 259 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:58,580 These numbers as we move through can kind of be a living document 260 00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:01,400 if we decide that maybe we want to 261 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:07,300 You know, put more effort into public service or whatever that might be. 262 00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:10,880 We can flip these around and make our pie chart different. 263 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:14,520 And it would be how you set your budget and how you set your goals every year. 264 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,140 And so yes, that is. 265 00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:19,380 And keep in mind, there are many that can overlap. 266 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,760 You know, when we talk about safety and water and sewer and environment, they all are related. 267 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,360 The same thing, even when you talk about health, you know, health and environment are pretty 268 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:32,880 closely related to an essential services. 269 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,520 But yes, thank you for pointing pointing that out. 270 00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:40,500 Sustainable development, you know, is a little bit lower, but that's also something 271 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:43,620 that's a little bit more niche, less of an essential service. 272 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,300 Public service is really that outreach, it's engagement with the community, and it's not 273 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:54,040 that you don't do quite a bit, it's just that on a dollar value, it doesn't rise to 274 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,820 the same level. 275 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:01,780 Your health is about 8% and again that's going to also be reflected in your Parks and Recreation 276 00:23:01,780 --> 00:23:07,700 Programs and your Capital Investments in those facilities that will be helpful to our community 277 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:09,600 as far as exercise and well being. 278 00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:15,980 And then as council member, white pointed out, futures 20%. 279 00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:21,200 And again, some of that, a small portion of that is the planning that we're doing in order 280 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,780 to sort of contribute to planning for the future and the things that we're doing there. 281 00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:29,020 But a lot of it also comes back to those capital projects because you're investing in projects 282 00:23:29,020 --> 00:23:33,840 today that will last in some cases 20, 30, 50 years from now. 283 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,440 And so, you know, it's really a reflection of your capital program. 284 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,580 I suspect if we just use me. 285 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,780 If we pulled that that $40 million out, you know, these numbers would change a little bit. 286 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,700 And again, it's just something to think about. 287 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:52,640 The last number is administration and it's really, it's financed the city manager's office. 288 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,420 It's the human resources. 289 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,860 It's those departments that when you think about them, don't necessarily have a direct role in those, 290 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:03,000 providing those services that are support for all of them. 291 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,160 And you could argue that you would allocate it back out proportionally. 292 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:08,560 But I wanted to just kind of point that out, see if we keep that. 293 00:24:08,660 --> 00:24:09,660 Could I ask one more question? 294 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:17,340 So next year when we don't have ARPA funds depending on how this ballot initiative plays out, 295 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:19,100 this is going to change significantly. 296 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:26,540 I wouldn't say necessarily significantly because your ARPA funds of your $87.6 million this year, 297 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:33,580 they're only about 900,000. So we're talking a pretty small amount. So even those dollars going away 298 00:24:33,580 --> 00:24:39,700 will shift things a little bit. It's the capital piece that's really driving it. And that's the, 299 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:45,200 $40 million or $39.8 million that really is establishing it. 300 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,680 So as our capital program decreases, if it does, then you would definitely see changes. 301 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:01,100 This is in all the programs that we've provided and are addressing in this year's budget 302 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:04,320 based on your goals and priority projects. 303 00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:07,460 But there are a few that I thought I would point out really quickly. 304 00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:11,220 We are looking at sea level rise vulnerability this year. 305 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,460 We are finishing the upgrades to our Arcade of Ball Park. 306 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,280 We've got traffic calming plan for KN11 Street. 307 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,080 We've got the reconnecting communities planning. 308 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,600 We're still waiting to figure out how much money we have, 309 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,440 but that's going to be a big project. 310 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:27,940 The support for the climate action plan, 311 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:30,440 the county should be moving forward with soon, 312 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,120 phase one of old Arcade of Road. 313 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,860 We've got a full-time equity Arcade Accordinator. 314 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:39,240 We've got most of that funding coming from outside in order to support it. 315 00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:42,500 We've got economic development strategic plan plans. 316 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:47,620 We've got the Arcana Chinatown Project and we've got small amount of funds set aside for that. 317 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:54,760 The Valley West Improvements adopting your general plan update, which should happen just after the first of the fiscal year. 318 00:25:55,340 --> 00:25:57,680 Your potential West End Road property purchase. 319 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:03,880 We've got about 1.1 million, 1.7 million dollars set aside if that happens. 320 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:09,960 We do have three over higher officers approved, and this is really kind of talks about the next item, 321 00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:16,140 which is that's how we're able to add those additional toll services in the downtown area. 322 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,280 We've got somebody dedicated valley west and then the march in the park, the parks patrol. 323 00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:24,140 Those overhires really are not about being overhired. 324 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:29,000 They're about making sure that through the transitions in the police department staff. 325 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:36,320 we can stay at the total number of staff in the total number of 27 offers officers who are actually 326 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,140 budgeted and then authorized. It takes six to nine months to replace a police officer down there. 327 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:47,320 And then redevelopment planning for a happy valley and little lakes properties. This is also an 328 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,500 economic development piece. We've got completing the solar and electric updates to the Arcade 329 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:59,380 community center. We did get a $576,000 loan, which will be paid off with the savings that 330 00:26:59,380 --> 00:27:05,660 the energy savings. And then we do also include a part-time position to help out down at the 331 00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:05,920 marsh. 332 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,180 So, these are sort of big picture numbers and they're really the highlights. We've talked a 333 00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:19,860 little bit about a few of them, but they're the kind of thing that if you go to not that you go 334 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:25,840 finance department, swing digs, and conferences, and cocktail parties, but these are the numbers 335 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:32,740 that you pass back and forth. So I wanted you all to be prepared in case you need to know exactly 336 00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:41,140 what our budget is. So you'll be in the know. So as I mentioned, the total budget is 87.6 337 00:27:41,140 --> 00:27:47,480 million dollars. That is a total increase over last year's adoptive budget of 2.1%. The capital 338 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:55,860 budget the total capital is 44.7 million of that 39.8 is part of our capital improvements program. 339 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,940 The difference are things like setting aside money for that potential property purchase. We've got 340 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:07,360 about $2 million in vehicles lined up and we've got a few other odds and ends that are included in the 341 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:12,400 total capital that are more related to equipment and things like that. Your total payroll and 342 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,980 benefits is $20.8 million. I will tell you that we've adjusted the number so that the two labor 343 00:28:18,980 --> 00:28:24,360 agreements that you approved at your last week's meeting. Those numbers have been updated. You 344 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:29,840 still have your arcade-up police association that has not been settled, so there may be some minor 345 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:36,280 adjustments there. In our city payments, this is a number that is really where we're paying ourselves 346 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:43,400 for services. And a good example of this is our IT services. So the IT department provides 347 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:49,380 services exclusively to city departments. And in order to sort of allocate the cost of that 348 00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:54,440 out appropriately, we charge each of those departments and funds for those services. So really 349 00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:00,240 what we're doing is we're sending money back to IT to pay for services. What it does is it kind 350 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,720 of creates a little bit of an over budgeting. It inflates the budget because you're recognizing 351 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,080 those as revenues and expenses and they're really a net zero. So if you think about that, 352 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:19,240 your budget would be 82.5 million. So it reduces it a little bit. As far as full time, 353 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,820 authorized employees, there are 130 employees plus five counts of members. And then your general 354 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:33,500 fund budget is $24.4 million. A couple other things to let you know, none, we have not included any 355 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,580 of the dollars from a proposed tax measure in this budget for a couple of reasons one. 356 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,820 We don't want to count on it before it's approved or make any assumptions. 357 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,020 And it also even if it passes in November because of the delay in collections. 358 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:51,260 We wouldn't start being collected until April of 2025, 359 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,240 which means that we wouldn't actually even receive the money until essentially the next fiscal year. 360 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,980 So, it does, the budget does use, 361 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,980 3.1 million dollars of one-time funds. It's where feasible. We are committing to a green fleet, where we can take that banage. And then, I wanted to point out this last figure. So your general fund balance, which includes your reserved, which is the 30% operating reserve that you set up last year, plus sort of the unreserved amount, is equal to 299 days of operations. So if you're if your general fund stop taking money into tomorrow, you could almost get in. 362 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:33,800 through a full year of operations just on your reserves. 363 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,080 And that's a pretty good amount of money. 364 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,700 It goes fast with your just spending it. 365 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,040 But it is over an 80% of reserve, which is something 366 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,260 that it puts us in good stead. 367 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 So, we start in a few slides. 368 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:51,020 When we start talking about structural deficits 369 00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:53,000 and some of the challenges we have, 370 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,960 I do want to just commend the council and the city 371 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,220 on really sort of putting us in a solid position 372 00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:59,860 and so that we're not panicking. 373 00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:02,240 We're not having to make decisions immediately 374 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840 and we can continue to make, you know, 375 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120 thoughtful processes as we go through the next couple of years. 376 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400 This is just a real big overview of all the funds. 377 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,500 It's that $87.6 million. 378 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Again, the capital outlay is your largest expenditure 379 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,820 at 48%. 380 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:25,100 Your personal services or your labor is 24% materials 381 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:32,160 and services 19, that five million dollars that goes back and forth is about seven percent 382 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840 including a couple other things here. 383 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,820 That service is almost minimal at less than one percent and then other expenditures is 384 00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:39,920 just a catch-all. 385 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,020 So this is kind of the big picture again. 386 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:49,120 You're going to see the same dollars if you look over on the far right-hand side. 387 00:31:49,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Your total revenue is 84.5 million, and you can see how it works the way through, and if you go to the middle of the page, the expense total is the 87.6 million we've talked about. 388 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:11,420 I don't think there's any surprises here. Your capital outplay, your personal services, all of those numbers are the percentages that you saw on the back page. 389 00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:18,500 If you do again have a $3.1 million one-time use of fund balance, most of that actually is 390 00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:22,600 coming out of the general fund and it has to do with that money we've set aside for 391 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,860 the potential purchase of property in the West End Street, that's a largest chunk of it. 392 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:34,040 And I will say that if you are interested and I can certainly, at any point, if you wanted 393 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,140 to go and see any of the details, we could go into the online budget tool and drill down 394 00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:45,880 anybody has a desire to do that. And this is just by function and again, it's it's pretty 395 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,100 straightforward. Police are 35% your largest portion of your general fund budget, public works, 396 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,840 and parks react and recreation are large here, but it's because you've got $5 million with the 397 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,540 capital projects that are embedded in both of those. So if you pulled those out, you parks and public 398 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:08,680 works and recreation would be a much smaller portion of the total. So, but it gives you an idea 399 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,680 of where you're spending your money as far as departments and expenses. 400 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,660 Could I just ask a clarifying question? 401 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Those a lot of that is actually grant funded, though, right? 402 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:20,900 It's not necessarily coming from the general fund. 403 00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:24,600 So, for the capital projects in the general fund, yes. 404 00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:29,300 There's about $2.5 million that is grant funded. 405 00:33:29,620 --> 00:33:35,540 When we talk about bigger picture, when we talk about your wastewater fund and your water fund, 406 00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:37,640 it's a much larger portion of grant funded. 407 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:46,400 But, yes, you're much of your parks and your streets programs that are included in parks and recreation and public works are coming from outside sources. 408 00:33:47,300 --> 00:34:02,640 And then, off in your parks projects, we'll also have an allocation that come from development fees, so what we call either recreation fee for new construction or park and loufies, where they are general fund dollars, they are earmarked from the extraction of that through development specific to those park improvements. 409 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:30,300 So, what just legislative means, legislative means, you are considered a legislative body in the fact that you are making rules and regulations for the city, same, so that is, and so basically it takes into account city council and typically your city clerk because your city clerk is essentially the person who is overseeing that process. 410 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:30,800 So 411 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,950 we'll move on to the special revenue funds. 412 00:34:42,970 --> 00:34:48,870 So you have, I think I counted 30, 34 or 35 special revenue funds. 413 00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:54,630 We have some that are like our bicycle registration that literally only has a couple hundred 414 00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:55,870 dollars a year in it. 415 00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:59,030 And then you have some that have been stagnant for quite a few years. 416 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,230 We are closing a few of those, but it is pretty diverse. 417 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,830 And if you're interested again, they are online. 418 00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:10,930 But for the most part, these are revenues, for entirely, they're revenues that are set aside and 419 00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:13,410 legally required to be used for a special purpose. 420 00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:21,510 Probably your mainstays are going to be your community development block grants, and then your streets and road taxes, 421 00:35:21,610 --> 00:35:23,630 the ones that are sort of reliable and regular. 422 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:31,170 You'll see, and I would point out here on your revised budget and your assules in 423 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:39,770 22, 21, excuse me, 22, 23, and those big increases in revenue, we're really about the 424 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:43,530 ARPA funds and your project home key funds that you got paid up front. 425 00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:49,150 It's also the reason that you have some negative spending going on because you've been spending 426 00:35:49,150 --> 00:35:57,390 down those proceeds, and again, they have to be used for that specific program or specific 427 00:35:57,390 --> 00:36:02,190 identified project and so it's a good thing but it is something that you should be aware of. 428 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:12,000 So this stormwater utility, I think we've talked about a few times and the reason I am highlighting 429 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,800 it here, it's a fairly small fund but it is one that is challenged and it is one that really 430 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:24,540 does meet the definition of a structural deficit and a structural deficit is basically when you go 431 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:30,380 multiple years with your expenses exceeding your revenues and you're running negative to the 432 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:34,320 point where you are running out of funds and this is a fund that is there. 433 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:41,280 That said, I would point out that we are in the process of a stormwater rate study. 434 00:36:41,980 --> 00:36:46,800 I know they're going back and forth with that and I believe that the environmental services 435 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,860 department will be coming forward late this next year, late this year, 2024 calendar year, 436 00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:59,740 with some solutions and some ways and a real review and evaluation of how to sort of write 437 00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:07,200 that fund and what's really required to maintain those services and the MS4 permit that we 438 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,220 are required to keep current and comply with. 439 00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:12,220 Could I ask a third question? 440 00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:13,640 You guys bear with me I'm learning. 441 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Does that mean there will be a special will that go on to the water bill? 442 00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:21,160 Not automatically. 443 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:28,000 So currently your charges for service at the very top here under revenues is actually up it's a parcel 444 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:38,000 It's on a it's per parcel tax. So it actually goes on your property taxes. Okay, um, and so I'm not exactly sure what the proposal will be from from the consultants 445 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,460 to come out of the right study, but 446 00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:47,060 It would have to be it still has to go through an election process to either be increased as a parcel tax or 447 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:53,480 to end up on the bills, so there'll be a process that would go through probably sometime in spring or summer of 2025. 448 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,060 Thank you. 449 00:37:55,720 --> 00:38:01,680 The other piece I'll add to this is that the Department of Environmental Services is going through an audit of all of our stormwater parcels. 450 00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:12,360 When this fee was initially enacted in the city was actually before we were even regulated through a municipal stormwater permit from the Regional Water Quality Control Board. 451 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:19,360 And there were a lot of early exemptions that the past council and past staff made associated with stormwater. 452 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,160 So part of this process is just to audit all of those parcels that once received an exemption 453 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,720 to see if there has been development since them. 454 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,320 To see if they now meet the definition to have an exemption since a lot of legislation has changed in stormwater, 455 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,160 which might also help us write a little bit of this deficit. 456 00:38:43,180 --> 00:38:55,860 You're a wastewater enterprise utility and again, I think the picture over the last three years really reflects the wastewater treatment plant upgrade project. 457 00:38:56,220 --> 00:39:07,320 So we're talking about a $54 million construction project, a total of $67 million when you add in your consulting fees, your engineering and all of the costs that are involved. 458 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:16,740 But you know, you can really see in your revenues from 2223 actual the jump up and then obviously the expense reflects the same thing. 459 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:24,640 But again, that is one place where we are very lucky that it is outside state funding that is essentially covering all of that. 460 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,800 So we've got a pretty good shape here. 461 00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:39,830 And the water fund is also in decent shape, and certainly has made some investments in capital programs too. 462 00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:48,150 It will say about half of the programs in the water fund have been funded from outside sources and the other half have been funded through rates. 463 00:39:48,850 --> 00:39:57,550 And essentially what's really funding that is that you've been able to over time build up some fund balance reserves and set aside money specifically for capital replacement. 464 00:39:57,550 --> 00:40:03,250 And so you're using some of that, which is why you've got some higher expense totals in the current years. 465 00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:05,590 And so that's really a reflection there. 466 00:40:05,650 --> 00:40:07,110 Otherwise, it's pretty straightforward. 467 00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:15,630 Just a reminder in when you pass the new master fee schedule in April that'll be effective on July 1st. 468 00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:22,110 It did include a 1.5% increase in water rates and an 8% increase in the wastewater rates. 469 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:27,950 And that is the last increase that has built into the current rate study and the current approved 470 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:28,670 rate structure. 471 00:40:29,350 --> 00:40:33,650 So that's something else that may be revisited in the next year or two. 472 00:40:34,210 --> 00:40:39,450 Okay, shifting gears a little bit to the American Rescue Plan Act or ARPA programs and projects. 473 00:40:39,730 --> 00:40:43,310 And as we already mentioned, we are sort of at the end. 474 00:40:43,550 --> 00:40:45,030 This is about the end of the funds. 475 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:49,930 And I expect that if we don't spend all of it, it will be essentially all of the money will 476 00:40:49,930 --> 00:40:53,630 likely be gone by the end of fiscal year 2024, 25. 477 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:58,610 Just a reminder when we talk about the projects and commitments is that one of the deadlines 478 00:40:58,610 --> 00:41:05,710 we have in order to comply with and keep those funds is that we have to have the funds committed 479 00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:08,130 before 1231 of 2024. 480 00:41:09,070 --> 00:41:13,930 And so when you're reviewing the projects and I'm going to also make sure that staff is really 481 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,130 also on board with this, we want to make sure that we have contracts in place. 482 00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:25,710 we have firm commitments to programs before 2024 or that we have looked at alternatives and 483 00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:31,690 something that we have used and we can certainly use to sort of make sure that we meet, 484 00:41:32,010 --> 00:41:38,890 we comply with those requirements, we had staff that you all had frozen back or the council 485 00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:44,790 of the frozen sort of pre and post pandemic that we were able to bring on, that is a certainly 486 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:50,270 valid use of ARPA funds, we have used it in the past, and it's an easy way to, if we need 487 00:41:50,270 --> 00:41:54,450 to make sure that we spend all of the dollars, we can certainly shift some of that back 488 00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:59,290 to staff, those same staff members for a short period of time. And what I would suggest there 489 00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:04,390 is if there are projects that you are still very much committed to and we want to complete 490 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:11,170 or see through, we could set aside money in the general fund for those projects and it would 491 00:42:11,170 --> 00:42:15,030 us a little bit more time in order to complete those. So that's something to do. 492 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:17,850 And we have to 26 to spend it. 493 00:42:17,890 --> 00:42:24,510 We haven't till 1231 of 26 to spend it, but we definitely need to, we need commitments that are 494 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:30,790 in writing and are firm. And the one challenge too is that once you commit that money after 495 00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:37,550 after 1231-24, we can't move it around. So the flexibility goes away. And so we've got 496 00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:42,550 flexibility in roughly the next six months to address this if we need to. 497 00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:48,610 So I think the recommendation in approving this year's budget will be to provide 498 00:42:48,610 --> 00:42:52,550 some authority to the finance director to an essence shift money's. 499 00:42:53,110 --> 00:42:55,610 Money's this year that we would be paying out of the general fund. 500 00:42:55,610 --> 00:43:00,810 If they are eligible for reimbursable expense to be able to get that reimbursement done and 501 00:43:00,810 --> 00:43:04,230 set aside those funds for the project if it's going to be pushed off another year. 502 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:06,770 And then that frees up our general thing for other things. 503 00:43:07,810 --> 00:43:08,030 Yeah. 504 00:43:08,030 --> 00:43:11,470 Well, specific to complete the projects that you've outlined at this point, 505 00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:13,010 because that's all you would have approved. 506 00:43:14,970 --> 00:43:15,130 Yeah. 507 00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:20,290 We're essentially just spending pre-spending these dollars and backfilling it 508 00:43:20,290 --> 00:43:22,130 with general fund dollars is what we would be doing. 509 00:43:23,090 --> 00:43:26,250 But it continues the community and bastard or program. 510 00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:30,590 You have set aside $10,000 for a joint tribal project. 511 00:43:30,610 --> 00:43:33,250 And that's why I am a little concerned about the deadline. 512 00:43:33,250 --> 00:43:35,670 because I don't know that we have anything identified. 513 00:43:36,370 --> 00:43:39,210 We do have $75,000 in for the Mr. 514 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:41,250 the Mobile Intervention Services team. 515 00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:43,510 This is based on what we've spent in the past. 516 00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:49,410 I do know that there are challenges at the county in how this is going to operate. 517 00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:51,270 I don't have any specific details. 518 00:43:51,610 --> 00:43:54,510 So this is something that is really kind of a placeholder right now. 519 00:43:54,850 --> 00:43:57,990 And it may be something that we reallocate or look at 520 00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:59,650 at doing differently going forward. 521 00:44:00,730 --> 00:44:02,770 We do have the outreach sergeant that's funded 522 00:44:02,770 --> 00:44:09,770 from ARPA for another year, we have a bike storage project, we've got value-esque community 523 00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:15,310 center project, we've got the final phase of the public art call for arts, we've got 524 00:44:15,310 --> 00:44:20,890 completion of the Green and Gold corridor crosswalks, climate change action plan support, 525 00:44:21,590 --> 00:44:25,490 this is another one we may want to kind of make sure that we set aside because I'm not sure 526 00:44:25,490 --> 00:44:30,670 exactly where that project is, we've got the remaining Kuna contract and then there is still 527 00:44:30,670 --> 00:44:38,650 $60,000 that is sort of un-designated, there is also a chance we'll do a final accounting 528 00:44:38,650 --> 00:44:42,750 once the books have closed and we'll see if there's any additional funds that will be rolling 529 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:46,950 forward but we'll let you know that too. And so this, as the city manager said, I think this 530 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:52,010 is an item that we will probably check in with you not too long after the beginning of the new 531 00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:57,790 fiscal year just to make sure that everything is on track and we know where we're at and also to 532 00:44:57,790 --> 00:44:59,970 use them octades on stepresis. So the 533 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,260 Endspend 60,000 could be more possibly. It could be more. Okay, but that's the, but yeah. It's what I, it's what I know, it could be more, I don't expect it to be much more, though. 534 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:14,100 We're talking thousands probably. 535 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:30,660 So I also thought it would be useful to just highlight a few of the capital improvement program. Again, we've talked a lot about this because it is a good chunk of your budget. 536 00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:42,840 You have 37 active projects. We've got six new ones this year. You completed 15 in fiscal year 2324. And again, it's just under a $40 million budget item. 537 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:55,160 This is just a breakout of in millions of where what funds they're coming from. And again, it's not anything surprising we've already talked about the wastewater treatment plan upgrade. 538 00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,640 and the I&I project that is making up that $22.5 million. 539 00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:05,480 Your general fund $5.1 million. Water is 5. 540 00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:11,660 You've got state transportation improvement program funding for a number of transportation projects at 4.8. 541 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:19,980 And then there's a few smaller special revenue fund grant projects that make up that last 2.4. 542 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,540 I'm going to highlight just a couple of the projects because I think that they're either 543 00:46:26,540 --> 00:46:31,200 a significant amount of money or it also shows sort of how the funding is working and 544 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,920 one of them is the old Arcade of Road. 545 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,820 It's a $6 million construction price tag and it really, we're getting a lot of the state 546 00:46:38,820 --> 00:46:43,940 transportation funding but we are also contributing major G money which is the previous 547 00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:50,220 TUT tax that was set aside for public safety and streets so it's a perfect use for it. 548 00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:55,470 And I would also point out that this does meet the city's complete street policies. 549 00:46:55,850 --> 00:46:57,250 So another, another plus. 550 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,900 The Annie and Mary Trail. 551 00:47:01,180 --> 00:47:03,000 We're going to be doing design work this year. 552 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:11,100 And again, this is pretty much this point funded from outside resources is where it's coming from. 553 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200 And obviously that's going to be an exciting project. 554 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,120 And certainly we'll add to our alternative transportation and 555 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,420 and pedestrian non-motorized ways to get around town. 556 00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:24,840 This one is on here really just because I thought this was a cool picture. 557 00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:28,260 Otherwise it's not that exciting of a project. 558 00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:34,760 But the water tank is being completed and we're on the final stages of closing out that project 559 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:41,720 and actually probably moving on to rehabbing tank 4c is it? 560 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:42,840 Take 4. 561 00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:43,740 Okay, tank 4. 562 00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:44,860 So we've got another one. 563 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,740 But you know, this is pretty, this is our tank and this is putting on the interior. 564 00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:51,500 You're coding. 565 00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:54,160 Yeah, isn't it cool? 566 00:47:59,540 --> 00:48:04,600 And again, you know, that funding came from the infant infrastructure grant and then also some. 567 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,200 It should be water funds that makes water funds. 568 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:16,170 Probably our most popular CIP project is the Redwood Park that you've just recently opened. 569 00:48:16,170 --> 00:48:21,710 had to grand opening and obviously is causing all sorts of issues with parking and bathrooms 570 00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:26,150 and overused but it is pretty exciting and it's pretty exciting to see everybody up there 571 00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:32,570 playing and enjoying it and again it had an assortment of outside funds that helped us 572 00:48:32,570 --> 00:48:37,130 complete that sounds like a good problem to have it's getting used. It is a good problem. 573 00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:45,370 And then the soon to be open Carlson Park, which again another other big add to Valley West 574 00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:55,210 And we certainly received funds from the state level and other grant tourism and other dollars that really made most of this come together. 575 00:48:55,830 --> 00:49:01,130 So it's another one that we have, we have to really say thank you to our outside partners. 576 00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:02,290 Could I ask a question? 577 00:49:02,290 --> 00:49:03,790 This is 1.4 million. 578 00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:05,370 I thought it was 2.4. 579 00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:09,210 Because millions from Senator McGuire. 580 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:16,190 Yeah, this phase is just the construction of the playground and the records on the entire, not the entire. 581 00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:18,510 What happened? 582 00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:21,170 Okay. 583 00:49:22,030 --> 00:49:27,850 And with that, and I wanted to just kind of circle back on a few items that you may want to consider. 584 00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:32,310 And these are decisions that don't necessarily have to be made this evening. 585 00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:34,490 We can certainly bring them back after the beginning of the year. 586 00:49:34,510 --> 00:49:37,270 We've got a couple things to check in with you about. 587 00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:42,690 The first two are a grant management program and economic development program. 588 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:54,270 These are two thoughts that came out of our management team meeting and it was when we were talking about and we were doing the haggling of cutting budgets in each department to try to bring things. 589 00:49:55,810 --> 00:50:05,930 Balance in the balance and the conversation came up about sort of what we really need and what we think is important to sort of the fiscal future of the city. 590 00:50:05,930 --> 00:50:13,230 and these two programs were something that universally amongst the department heads and other 591 00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:15,010 managers we thought were important. 592 00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:21,270 And the thing that really struck me is that neither of these are necessarily going to help 593 00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:26,030 individual departments, they're really about helping the whole, helping all departments 594 00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:31,030 and probably more importantly helping the city, you know, a grant management program. 595 00:50:31,230 --> 00:50:35,470 As you can see, we've talked about a lot tonight already and we have in the past is that 596 00:50:35,470 --> 00:50:42,890 We see a lot of money, and we apply for a lot of grants, we receive a lot of grants, and it is a big job managing them. 597 00:50:43,130 --> 00:50:47,010 It's also something that the skill sets vary from department to department. 598 00:50:47,550 --> 00:50:54,010 We also find that we're using high-end staff, some of our highest-paid staff to do just the basic reporting, 599 00:50:55,570 --> 00:51:01,610 and the basic invoicing, it's fairly complex, and that may or may not be the best use of resources. 600 00:51:01,610 --> 00:51:06,690 The other thing that came out of this is that there's no, it's not, it's not a cohesive 601 00:51:06,690 --> 00:51:13,810 overall program or policy, so it's very much made up of departments kind of going after 602 00:51:13,810 --> 00:51:18,870 what they want, but we're not necessarily doing as great a job of planning it and looking 603 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:23,710 at strategically looking at that process and there are departments that just quite frankly don't 604 00:51:23,710 --> 00:51:28,210 have the resources and are probably missing out on grants because that they just don't have 605 00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:32,810 capacity within the department and so we really feel like it's something that we'd like the 606 00:51:32,810 --> 00:51:37,690 Council to consider, at least at the very least identifying as a project so that we start 607 00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:43,490 working on how to put that together. We've also found that many of the grants and our city 608 00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:48,970 engineer can certainly speak to this but a lot of the grants actually have some funding for staff. 609 00:51:49,570 --> 00:51:54,910 They wouldn't necessarily cover a full staff person or 100% of a staff person but we can get 610 00:51:54,910 --> 00:51:59,330 some of that money back. So that's something else that we'd like to really explore a little bit more. 611 00:51:59,450 --> 00:52:03,910 Did I ask was were you thinking a full-time position, part-time position? 612 00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:07,850 I think we would take whatever we could get ideally a full-time position. 613 00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:13,410 And just to clarify, when you say management, that includes not just managing but writing, correct? 614 00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:16,950 Yes. So it would be helping, it would be helping write the grants, 615 00:52:17,370 --> 00:52:20,210 it would be helping with the reporting, and it would be helping with the invoicing. 616 00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:24,850 You are obviously still going to be very much dependent on a department because they are 617 00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:31,470 the experts in their area and so there's no way that you can just that I could write a grant 618 00:52:31,470 --> 00:52:37,350 specific about you know wastewater treatment upgrade there's there's just certain things that 619 00:52:37,350 --> 00:52:45,730 so another dimension we may or may not can we decide this tonight that's up to you all 620 00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:52,170 okay I'm excited but one thing we thought we don't yeah we could recommend that we look into it 621 00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:54,610 that we have staff look into it and see the possibilities 622 00:52:54,610 --> 00:52:57,070 and then we could bring it back to our council meeting. 623 00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:58,910 The recommendation is whether or not you 624 00:52:58,910 --> 00:53:02,430 would want to add staff doing research around this 625 00:53:02,430 --> 00:53:04,270 to your priority projects for this year 626 00:53:04,270 --> 00:53:07,630 and the economic development program, two year council goals. 627 00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:09,950 They're not included in this year's budget. 628 00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:13,330 It would be additional dipping into reserves 629 00:53:13,330 --> 00:53:15,750 to fund those this year and they are ongoing costs. 630 00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:18,790 So, but at least to be able to research that and to... 631 00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:19,770 We get the ball rolling. 632 00:53:20,570 --> 00:53:30,010 And to identify the need, and again, it is the grant management program would be something we would ask you to set a priority for and then staff would work on it. 633 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:41,890 And the second one, the economic development program, I think, is important to consider the fact that we do have money in the budget for developing a strategic plan, so it's not that you probably need to work on that this year. 634 00:53:41,890 --> 00:53:47,710 But the idea being that we'd like to make sure that when we complete that plan and we put the work into it, 635 00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:51,870 that we have the ability to actually implement it and work it. 636 00:53:51,870 --> 00:53:58,230 And so it's probably a future, a future which is why I said it as a goal as opposed to a priority project. 637 00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:06,270 Again, the other thing I'm reminding of is just the storm water that that will be coming back to you and that's something we need to keep our eyes on. 638 00:54:06,270 --> 00:54:19,630 The next item setting aside 25% of the general fund surplus from 2223 is a part of your pension funding policy that you adopted last August. 639 00:54:20,350 --> 00:54:26,710 Technically, though, this surplus happened in 2223 and you adopted that policy in 2324. 640 00:54:27,610 --> 00:54:30,390 The recommendation is, and we can bring this back to you. 641 00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:33,290 But the recommendation is that we actually set aside 642 00:54:33,290 --> 00:54:36,450 that 25% which is about $484,000. 643 00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:39,950 We would put it into our section 115 trust, 644 00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:42,050 which means that we have some flexibility. 645 00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:46,730 The section 11515 trust is to build funds 646 00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:48,790 or save funds for the pension liability. 647 00:54:49,110 --> 00:54:50,790 And so goal would not be to use it. 648 00:54:51,110 --> 00:54:54,130 But if we had a really rough year or a real dire need 649 00:54:54,130 --> 00:54:57,670 in the future, we could use it to offset that year's cost. 650 00:54:57,670 --> 00:55:05,770 and so it would help us subsidize any given years budget and so it's still money that is somewhat 651 00:55:05,770 --> 00:55:10,050 available but specific to pension and so that would be our recommendation if the council 652 00:55:10,050 --> 00:55:14,810 would be willing to appropriate good idea to do that after our whole conversation ahead of 653 00:55:14,810 --> 00:55:20,910 how we're going to handle everything. So if I had a question and it's on page 13, would this 654 00:55:20,910 --> 00:55:24,910 to be the timer later about item number two at the bottom of the page. 655 00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:29,150 You're going to have money that we saved. 656 00:55:29,650 --> 00:55:31,930 You're going to have to give us a little bit of... 657 00:55:31,930 --> 00:55:33,050 Let's go through this presentation. 658 00:55:33,450 --> 00:55:40,030 So it's on packet page 113 number two and it's about the annual UAL pre-payment. 659 00:55:40,410 --> 00:55:42,910 It sounds like we by pre-paying. 660 00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:48,010 We saved 66, almost 67,000 dollars. 661 00:55:50,430 --> 00:56:11,850 We did that last year, and I will tell you that it is a good thing, but I'll give a caveat here in that interest rates last year also went up, and so we probably didn't do that much better, and we might have even maybe done a little bit better if we had just left it in a savings account, we probably would have ended up about the same place. 662 00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:17,010 So we will likely look at interest rates, in fact, we have to make that decision in the next 663 00:56:17,010 --> 00:56:17,490 month. 664 00:56:17,730 --> 00:56:21,930 But when interest rates a year before that, when interest rates were rock bottom, it was a 665 00:56:21,930 --> 00:56:22,450 great deal. 666 00:56:23,110 --> 00:56:26,230 And you did save money and you didn't, you weren't getting interest elsewhere. 667 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:36,220 So again, we've still got the Arcade of Police Association Labor Agreement to manage that 668 00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:38,660 might have minor changes to some of your cost factors. 669 00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:49,900 And again, a reminder on the ARPA that this is something that we can certainly come back to you early in the fiscal year and sort of do just a touch, touch based on each and every one of these items. 670 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,160 I'm not asking you to necessarily make a decision tonight, but you're welcome to. 671 00:56:56,140 --> 00:57:00,220 And if not, we probably would schedule something in August to come back on that. 672 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,620 Hey, well, as this is a public hearing, I think I'll open it up for public comment first. 673 00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:12,000 There is no online public comment. 674 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,420 Okay, let's bring it back to the council. 675 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,160 Who wants to start? 676 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:27,900 I would just say, actually, you know, I said, I don't really like to do this and then I looked at everything that you had and I don't know if you could tell I did or not. 677 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:36,700 But anyway, I thought it was very good. I liked it. I was interested in the whole thing, then I asked you interesting questions, but what's happening was so and so. 678 00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:39,780 So, but I thought it was excellent. 679 00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:41,660 I really appreciate it. 680 00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:47,200 I like the format and the fact that it's a 100% online. 681 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,660 So, every facet of this budget is available for any member of the public to click on 682 00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:55,640 and look at where every of the needs being spent. 683 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,400 And I wanted to add to that. 684 00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:04,600 One of the things that I wanted all of you to know and even the public is that the budget 685 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,220 gets that those numbers online get updated nightly. 686 00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:10,860 And so the only ones that really, your budget numbers typically 687 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:14,460 don't change much over time, there'll be a few adjustments. 688 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,260 But the year to date for 2324, the Actuals, 689 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,080 we need real-end the reports and see those will change nightly. 690 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,840 And so anybody who's interested in sort of monitoring the budget 691 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,800 over time will be able to do that. 692 00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:29,820 And we will probably adjust those reports 693 00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:33,500 so that people can see, when we roll into the new fiscal year, 694 00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:38,280 at a column for actual. So if anybody is interested in just sort of monitoring it and being able 695 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,480 to drill in to the line item detail, we'll make it a little bit more user friendly for 696 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,020 every once. 697 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,640 I was just going to, you know, comment. But I don't really have any questions, 698 00:58:53,180 --> 00:58:57,820 but you make our job very easy to have a test. Thank you. Just to agree with Alex about how 699 00:58:57,820 --> 00:59:02,680 clear everything was laid out and just how meaning was so helpful and just the way you 700 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,540 it's so clear and it really makes a lot of sense. 701 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:11,280 I do want to just say that I definitely support kind of pursuing some of these positions 702 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,600 that you guys talked about, especially I think that we get a lot of comments from the 703 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,720 public that want us to take immediate action on things that happen whether it be public. 704 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,780 See if you related or traffic related or whatever that might be and one of the huge limiting 705 00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:32,580 factors for doing anything like that is money and from what I hear just in conversation 706 00:59:32,580 --> 00:59:37,120 with people that work doing a lot of grants and staff and at cities and counties and everything 707 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,900 like there's money out there and there's a lot of it it's just that and I know like my 708 00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:46,780 GPA struggles from this as well like you can't have you know you can't write enough grants 709 00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:51,180 because there's always money for for something out there and so I think having a dedicated person 710 00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:56,220 staff that can help you know liaison with departments and seek out those fundings to do a lot of 711 00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:59,920 projects that we want, because we talk a lot about projects that do incorporate. 712 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,320 Reallments that are prime for grant funding, things like affordable housing and safe streets and all that stuff, you know, there's money out there and so I really support pursuing that. 713 01:00:11,620 --> 01:00:12,000 I agree. 714 01:00:14,540 --> 01:00:25,600 I agree with the grant management program making economic development a goal and also the 484,000 that you're recommending of surplus. 715 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,580 I support all of those. 716 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,280 And yes, having someone that you really trust, 717 01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:34,040 it's pretty easy to accept recommendations 718 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,940 because we know that you take your job very seriously. 719 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,800 So it's easy to see as to those. 720 01:00:42,260 --> 01:00:45,260 And I have something I would like to do more of a dive into, 721 01:00:45,460 --> 01:00:47,720 but I don't know if you want to go to other people first. 722 01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:50,260 For you that I just wanted to thank you 723 01:00:50,260 --> 01:00:53,040 because I feel like I got budgeting 101, 724 01:00:53,040 --> 01:01:03,180 And I didn't think I'd enjoy it, and I'm excited and kind of wish I would have got a little head start, but it's always, it's it's a moving target. We're going to be doing it all year. 725 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,560 So yeah, just thank you. 726 01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:13,910 Again, thank you. Everything is always presented so clearly and detailed. 727 01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:21,090 I was thinking about the ARPA funds, specifically the $10,000 that we had committed to 728 01:01:21,930 --> 01:01:27,870 joint tribal project and also thinking about how, you know, signage was kind of a 729 01:01:27,870 --> 01:01:34,410 priority that got left off when we were planning for our perfons and so maybe seeing 730 01:01:34,410 --> 01:01:39,750 if we could work with a tribe and using that 10,000 and maybe some of that other 60,000 to 731 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:47,110 do like a big welcome to Arcade a slash, you know, welcome to Gootie design and kind of combine 732 01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:55,150 those two things that could be beneficial way to use those tribal funds while still looking 733 01:01:55,150 --> 01:02:00,410 for other projects to work with the tribe and getting some welcome signage because I don't 734 01:02:00,410 --> 01:02:05,630 think really arcade has any signage like that. And that's a great idea. That's a great idea 735 01:02:05,630 --> 01:02:10,210 and it would be something that would be, I think we would definitely want to do the, you know, 736 01:02:10,310 --> 01:02:14,810 let's set aside the money and the general fund and use ARPA funds now so that we, 737 01:02:14,810 --> 01:02:17,170 because that's going to be longer than six months. 738 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:18,110 That's good. 739 01:02:18,330 --> 01:02:19,270 Yeah, thank you. 740 01:02:20,050 --> 01:02:22,330 Yeah, because signage was something that a lot 741 01:02:22,330 --> 01:02:23,870 of the businesses want, whether they're 742 01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:26,290 directional signages along the plaza, 743 01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:28,610 and those are also things that I would like to consider 744 01:02:28,610 --> 01:02:31,750 if we find ourselves with extra funds 745 01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:35,110 as we're getting close to the end of December 746 01:02:35,110 --> 01:02:40,470 is just more robust signage in Arcita. 747 01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:49,230 Um, and then we were talking about, um, some of these funds that are, that we're closing, 748 01:02:49,830 --> 01:02:49,850 right? 749 01:02:49,850 --> 01:02:53,710 Some of them that just, we started to ears go and just never got used. 750 01:02:54,290 --> 01:02:58,810 So, um, one of the funds that, gosh, I feel like I asked about this. 751 01:02:58,990 --> 01:03:02,090 Like, way the beginning of my term is the parking in Lou funds. 752 01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:08,910 And, you know, I think that, um, if we're just going to close it, maybe a good use of it, 753 01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:12,990 be to do like parking study is that something that is feasible. 754 01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:16,670 I will have to because because 755 01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:20,790 that fund sort of predated me I haven't looked at the details of what the legal requirements 756 01:03:20,790 --> 01:03:27,030 for being for what it can be used for but I'm happy to look at that and I know we have we have 757 01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:32,190 allocated some of those funds that have been around for a while where we could to some of nature 758 01:03:32,190 --> 01:03:36,890 projects so we'll see what's available we can look into what's available and then whether or not 759 01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:39,050 parking study as appropriate. 760 01:03:39,890 --> 01:03:45,850 And yes, again, I'm really, really in favor of a strong economic development plan, and then 761 01:03:45,850 --> 01:03:51,570 then starting on thinking about how we can implement it, I think it's, it's great. 762 01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:52,890 And I'll pass it on. 763 01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:58,810 So I was just, we used to have a sign a long time ago, was now we had, we owned the property, 764 01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:04,470 but at one time we didn't, and there was a mound, and we had a welcome sign to Arcada, 765 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:09,450 And the cows kept knocking it over, but it was mounded sign. 766 01:04:09,550 --> 01:04:12,370 And I don't even know if we have that mounded area out there anymore, 767 01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:15,170 it'd have to go look to see if it's still there. 768 01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:18,570 Because part of it is the coastal commission and getting it signed, 769 01:04:18,770 --> 01:04:22,690 located in that area to welcome people to our kida. 770 01:04:23,470 --> 01:04:25,930 So I just had to mention that. 771 01:04:25,970 --> 01:04:29,350 And in parking, we haven't used that for many years, 772 01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:33,930 but if you wanted to build a remodel on the plaza or a certain area, 773 01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:41,230 You had to put money into an parking in Lou because you were doing that instead of putting in a parking space. 774 01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:49,270 And so that went away when we finally took a district in the downtown and said you do not require a gap working on site. 775 01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:51,830 And therefore we no longer had to have a parking in Lou. 776 01:04:53,070 --> 01:04:59,090 So I thought it could go if we're going to ever get into parking meters kind of thing. 777 01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:01,010 Maybe that could be just in that area. 778 01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:02,630 That was the thought I had. 779 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,660 It sounds like we're all kind of on the same page, which is nice. 780 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,060 So are we ready then? Do you have a motion? 781 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,380 This is already there. 782 01:05:13,940 --> 01:05:15,540 Oh, she wants to die beach. 783 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:23,000 No, so nothing this is early to act on today, 784 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:26,280 but I just wanted to share some of my thoughts with all of you 785 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,780 and see if you feel the same and just have a little discussion. 786 01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:33,900 But so we have the $75,000 budgetage for missed. 787 01:05:36,220 --> 01:05:43,040 And I have, since day one, asked for specific statistics, 788 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,740 what are we accomplishing with that money? 789 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,920 And for whatever reasons we haven't seen that. 790 01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:52,080 And that doesn't mean that valuable work isn't being done, 791 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:57,560 but it's hard to justify spending when we're not sure. 792 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:04,800 So, I think I would love to maybe hear from someone from the police department to say, 793 01:06:04,820 --> 01:06:11,200 if that's the right person, I would assume, to really talk about that and see what benefits 794 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,480 we're getting from it. 795 01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:16,340 We know the benefits that we're getting from the community ambassadors. 796 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,660 We've talked about it scanning them to Valley West. 797 01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:24,240 We've talked about like a clean streets helping with business cleanups in the morning that 798 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,620 our ambassadors would do. 799 01:06:25,620 --> 01:06:33,680 We've talked about expanding the program and so I guess I'm curious to know if we want 800 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:39,000 to keep that if the 75,000 should continue to go to missed and that's a great spend 801 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:47,400 or should we reconsider spending that on the community ambassador program, realizing that 802 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:53,620 it could come to an end if we don't pass this tax measure but in another part of that program 803 01:06:53,620 --> 01:06:58,620 besides that I think is important in addition to expanding next to Valley West. 804 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:05,780 I think that having perhaps the discussion of a full-time ambassador that is really 805 01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:11,600 in charge of the program of, you know, if we get too far out of the downtown just to over 806 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,660 see things and manage it as we grow, we, you know, we definitely want it to be managed 807 01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:16,060 well. 808 01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:19,420 And they do do a great job of, we see this statistics. 809 01:07:19,420 --> 01:07:25,080 So they're very good about doing that, which to me makes it easier to want to expand and fund 810 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,680 that program because we actually know what's happening. 811 01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:33,820 So those are just some thoughts, and I'm just curious to know how the rest of you feel about 812 01:07:33,820 --> 01:07:34,820 those thoughts. 813 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,300 I love to go ahead. 814 01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:43,520 Yeah, I just want to add, I think to, I like that idea a lot, Susie, and I totally agree 815 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,920 that I think we kind of have been waiting to hear about missed and what's going on and 816 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,320 who's out in the field and what that looks like and not being built and all that stuff in 817 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,560 between and and just that I think that both expanding and kind of enhancing and supporting 818 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:03,260 our community ambassador to you to get them kind of like the supplies that they need as 819 01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:03,640 well. 820 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,400 I was recently in Chico and they have lovely people and little teal shirts walking around 821 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,840 that our community ambassadors and they have like a little cart that had like their trash 822 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,440 can and like their trash picker and like some cleaning supplies and like you know it seemed 823 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:20,080 like they were covering more ground and it was just, 824 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,800 you know, so that they are not like constantly running back 825 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,460 before I think can have, you know, the supplies that they need 826 01:08:25,460 --> 01:08:28,160 also to be doing the job to the best of their abilities 827 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,280 and kind of maybe get some feedback from the community of masters 828 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,400 of like what could help, you know, support that program physically 829 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,060 as well, and I like the idea of definitely having like a go 830 01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:42,100 to lead ambassador position that is designated. 831 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,980 And I think those are all fantastic ideas. 832 01:08:48,060 --> 01:08:53,520 One of the things I would really like to sit down with some of the ambassadors, and then you 833 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,320 talk about deep diving, I would like to get their opinions. 834 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:03,000 We have a report that comes to us, and that's great, but what are some of the personal issues 835 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,100 and some of the personal things they have to deal with that we probably may and may not get 836 01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:08,860 any reports. 837 01:09:09,380 --> 01:09:15,520 So I don't know if that's possible, but I was thinking maybe eventually somehow we could 838 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,240 do something like that and just maybe I don't know how it would be, you know, we have to 839 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,660 structure it to be correct blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 840 01:09:23,660 --> 01:09:28,220 but maybe like council could assign a subcommittee to have that meeting and then be 841 01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:29,740 perfect at the whole. 842 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,620 It's just an option. 843 01:09:31,140 --> 01:09:34,760 And another thing you could do is go on a walk around because that's what I did. 844 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,340 And if you go on instead of a right along, if you go on a walk around, then they're, they're 845 01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:44,180 very happy to tell you what they need, what's going well so you can also do that. 846 01:09:44,180 --> 01:10:05,840 So, yes, to all of those things for the ambassador program, but one of the things that really hit home for me was when there is a mental health issue, and it doesn't necessitate sending out law enforcement, then we send out these highly trained, de-escalating social workers. 847 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:11,120 But I agree without data, we don't know how we're using them. 848 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:17,660 I'd like to see some statistics and how many are being dispatched and how many end up having 849 01:10:17,660 --> 01:10:20,200 to have APD come any way or not. 850 01:10:20,740 --> 01:10:24,720 And then also, I'd like some clarification because right now, I don't think that we have really, 851 01:10:24,860 --> 01:10:30,740 I mean, I know that it's been mentioned to me that we have juvenile diversion, but my understanding 852 01:10:30,740 --> 01:10:35,020 is they're like eight to five and maybe missed is two and you can't plan these emergencies. 853 01:10:35,020 --> 01:10:56,900 But if a adolescent youth is having a mental health issue, we don't really have anything within the city of Arcade to respond to them except for to call the Arcade of Police Department because, honestly, our DHSS in, you know, the county, they're not, it just doesn't happen. 854 01:10:58,250 --> 01:11:05,110 Yeah, we do not have 24-7 alternative response, juvenile diversion, really steps in for low-level 855 01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:09,890 crimes after a juvenile has had interaction, typically with our police department. 856 01:11:10,110 --> 01:11:12,490 So not mental health issues, only crime. 857 01:11:12,610 --> 01:11:19,730 Often there are certainly anti-aliasing issues, but the initial, you know, responses, there 858 01:11:19,730 --> 01:11:23,490 was a crime committed instead of sending that juvenile through the criminal justice system. 859 01:11:23,650 --> 01:11:26,830 We divert them away from that and then into the diversion program. 860 01:11:27,630 --> 01:11:32,110 It's a good topic to bring up, they are, we have two positions that are funded this year. 861 01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:36,170 We work out of the Northern Humboldt School, we work in all of our K to school districts, 862 01:11:36,430 --> 01:11:40,010 but we also work in both our K to M McKinleyville High, because they're one district. 863 01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:45,030 We have always done that because that has been funded, that's for the Juvenile Diversion version. 864 01:11:45,490 --> 01:11:45,970 Yeah, that's been funded. 865 01:11:45,970 --> 01:11:47,070 You have to tell me on that program. 866 01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:48,090 I love that program. 867 01:11:48,650 --> 01:11:52,870 But I do want to share with you some budget concerns I have, that has long time been funded 868 01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:53,750 through measures E. 869 01:11:54,030 --> 01:11:55,390 It was not funded last year. 870 01:11:55,630 --> 01:11:58,750 You were able to continue to fund that with ARPA funds that we had. 871 01:11:59,470 --> 01:12:05,690 This year, we got right from the county just a portion of one position, but the school 872 01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:10,170 district also did receive a grant to help offset the majority of the cost. 873 01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:16,430 If we don't have outside funding, it is going to be impossible for us to recommend to juvenile 874 01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:17,330 diversion counselors. 875 01:12:17,370 --> 01:12:21,230 If one of them is predominantly, you know, if half of the work is predominantly outside 876 01:12:21,230 --> 01:12:22,010 the city limits. 877 01:12:22,670 --> 01:12:22,970 Right. 878 01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:28,050 So that is going to be something that I think is going to be critical for us to look at next fiscal year. 879 01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:30,090 I think we're okay for this fiscal year. 880 01:12:30,970 --> 01:12:35,990 And in terms of mental health response, the county does have a mental health crisis that our police 881 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:40,550 call probably every single week outside of our missed. 882 01:12:40,930 --> 01:12:43,830 If missed does only work during the days. 883 01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:46,490 It has been sporadic in terms of when we've had staff. 884 01:12:46,610 --> 01:12:49,450 The billing, you know, has been reflective of when we've had staff. 885 01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:51,690 And when we haven't, these are county staff members. 886 01:12:52,250 --> 01:12:59,270 working out of APD. I would say it is rare if it has ever happened that they go to a 911 887 01:12:59,270 --> 01:13:04,970 called by themselves, but what is frequent is that they will do follow-up after or they 888 01:13:04,970 --> 01:13:08,970 will be out in the community, you know, talking, you know, predominantly with people in the 889 01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:13,810 and house community trying to get them into services. You're all right. 890 01:13:14,050 --> 01:13:15,530 There are all adults, right? Not adolescents. 891 01:13:15,530 --> 01:13:21,290 to miss, can work across any age and they do work across any age and with families. 892 01:13:22,250 --> 01:13:26,710 You know that being said, I think we have all seen some shortcomings in the program, a lot 893 01:13:26,710 --> 01:13:31,850 of it being that it's hard even for them as county workers to connect to a services on the 894 01:13:31,850 --> 01:13:35,170 other side that are needed for them to be able to make a difference. 895 01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:40,930 And so the county is looking through a whole revamp of kind of that outreach as well. 896 01:13:41,310 --> 01:13:44,930 And I think that's why the finance director said we're not sure if we're going to be able 897 01:13:44,930 --> 01:13:50,250 even allocate those funds by the end of this calendar year to be able to commit them to 898 01:13:50,250 --> 01:13:54,350 the ARP of funds and maybe need to look at another program such as Expansion of Community 899 01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:54,790 Ambassador. 900 01:13:55,410 --> 01:13:58,530 So that question that Stacey brought up was very timely. 901 01:13:58,990 --> 01:14:03,410 Yeah, so I'm hearing from the Council is that we're going to tentatively keep this 902 01:14:04,230 --> 01:14:11,110 missed funding while at the same time having some kind of report from them and then moving 903 01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:13,230 off from there to see if we want to reallocate those funds. 904 01:14:13,230 --> 01:14:19,530 is that the general idea I'm getting from it, but the first test you did see was in the chief's 905 01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:21,930 quarterly report and so those would be updated in this next. 906 01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:25,530 Don't we can have all of that for you by August when we revisit our part? 907 01:14:26,430 --> 01:14:31,130 The other thing is our diversion program also has family meetings and they do get and they 908 01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:34,130 have trainings for families and they pull that together. 909 01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:38,230 They have a wonderful project and loving solutions program. 910 01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:39,830 Great program. 911 01:14:40,330 --> 01:14:40,530 All right. 912 01:14:40,530 --> 01:14:43,470 So anybody else have any more questions? 913 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,380 Okay, just some of them make a motion or any other questions. 914 01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:59,980 If there isn't any, I would like to adopt, move to adopt resolution number two, three, four. 915 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:12,860 As 62, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Arcada adopting FY2024-25, and I would like to close the public hearing, but that may take another motion. 916 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:13,640 All second. 917 01:15:14,740 --> 01:15:19,460 All right, we have a motion from Vice Mayor Stolenin, second and council member, Shaefer, all in favor. 918 01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:24,720 Aye. Aye. All right, motion passes. Does anybody need a break before we move on to the next law? 919 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,640 I did we close the public hearing. 920 01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:27,860 I think that worked, yes. 921 01:15:27,860 --> 01:15:30,400 Okay. Thank you. Good. You okay? Are you want to break? 922 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,320 Let me know. 923 01:15:33,220 --> 01:15:37,920 All right. Let's move. All right. We're going to, we'll check in after the next item. 924 01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:44,080 Okay. So let's move on to item B, place transaction and use tax measure on ballot for November 925 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,100 5th, 2024. Can we have a stop report please? 926 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,980 Okay. So as you all know, this was supposed 927 01:15:56,980 --> 01:16:02,880 to come last week and it got pushed. But I think we've talked about it quite a bit and gone 928 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:07,720 the details. So this should be pretty straightforward this evening. This is just a summary 929 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,780 and a few items that I think we've talked about before, but a reminder that our current rate 930 01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:20,460 is at 8.5%. If we do pass the 0.75% it'll raise the the limit or the city's tax to 9.25% 931 01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:26,420 which is currently where the city of Eureka is. It does not take into account whether or not the 932 01:16:26,420 --> 01:16:31,840 county is successful or puts forth a measure of this fall, but we do anticipate that in their 933 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,420 year this evening, so I expect that that's part of the conversation. What does that mean? 934 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,960 I can't follow that. So does that mean how does that affect our 9.25? 935 01:16:42,940 --> 01:16:50,960 So all it does is that it would be an additional tax. So if ours is successful by itself, 936 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:58,200 our tax rate in city limits would be 9.25%. If the county's ballot measure is successful, 937 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:04,580 it would be added on to that. So it would be either, I think they're looking at also a 0.75% 938 01:17:04,580 --> 01:17:11,380 which would mean that our tax rate would be 10% for the city of, okay, that would also be the 939 01:17:11,380 --> 01:17:16,620 same for the city of Eureka and if Fortuna was successful with their measure, which they are also 940 01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:25,260 putting 0.75% the tax rate for Fortuna would also be the 10%. So we would kind of be with the rest of California. 941 01:17:25,260 --> 01:17:40,260 And I think you may have seen I attached a copy of all the tax rates and it was, you know, it ranges from the low, which is state only at 7.25% up to 10.75% and especially in the southern region. 942 01:17:40,460 --> 01:17:42,740 You know, there are many cities that are at that high end. 943 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:43,940 Thank you to that clarification. 944 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,420 So it's like you won't want to go buy your car. 945 01:17:48,260 --> 01:17:52,280 McKinleyville, if you could buy it in Fort Chinat because all the taxes are the same. 946 01:17:53,340 --> 01:18:00,220 There is a little bit difference on the vehicles, so most of the tax goes to where the 947 01:18:00,220 --> 01:18:00,920 sale happens. 948 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,620 So yes, if you buy a vehicle in the Kennyville, the tax would stay there. 949 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,160 T-U-T, which is our major G, and it's also what we're proposing on the ballot in November, 950 01:18:10,860 --> 01:18:12,440 follows the car where it's used. 951 01:18:13,020 --> 01:18:19,940 So when you drive the car back into our toilet paper state, yeah, wherever you buy it, it stays 952 01:18:19,940 --> 01:18:20,260 there. 953 01:18:20,260 --> 01:18:24,640 Don't you aren't going to go to Virginia to buy your child paper because it's cheaper than our cat 954 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:30,840 Well, and you know, it's it's the Eureka and we see this when you look at the statistical numbers lots of people from 955 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,440 Arcada drive to Eureka to buy things like toilet paper 956 01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:46,240 But we are it would bring about 2.6 million dollars and we certainly have lots of uses for that and just to remind her as we we talked about the moving back and forth between borders 957 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,100 You know the tax really does 958 01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:54,080 is not is pretty fluid within a community, and we, you know, when we go to our 959 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:59,900 cater, when folks from our cater go to the city of Eureka to buy things, they're 960 01:18:59,900 --> 01:19:04,900 paying the Eureka tax at the higher amount and they're contributing to that 961 01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:08,720 municipalities while being programs, things like that. So it's something to 962 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,560 consider. 963 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,300 Does a few quick requirements, and this is why we push this from 964 01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:22,340 last week. I do want to make clear it is a general tax, which means that the use of it 965 01:19:22,340 --> 01:19:27,860 while we are designating and we are committing to certain uses, it is unrestricted legally. 966 01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:33,280 It can be used for anything it does become general fund funds. It does require tonight. It 967 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,480 will require two thirds or a super majority of the city council's approval, which means 968 01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:43,060 at least four of you have to vote for the tax. And we are limited as we've talked about 969 01:19:43,060 --> 01:19:46,120 before unless we declare a fiscal emergency, 970 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:50,060 the tax would have to go on a ballot measure or an election 971 01:19:50,060 --> 01:19:56,780 where our elected officials are elected officials are on the ballot, 972 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,400 which means that it's every other year. 973 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,680 So the next time we would be able to take this would be 2026. 974 01:20:04,430 --> 01:20:07,050 And one of the reasons that we are really looking at this, 975 01:20:07,050 --> 01:20:08,570 and we talked about it in the staff report, 976 01:20:08,730 --> 01:20:10,230 and we talked about it a little bit in our budget, 977 01:20:10,490 --> 01:20:13,690 is that when we look out, the city has done a really good job 978 01:20:13,690 --> 01:20:18,030 of laying a good solid fiscal or financial foundation. 979 01:20:18,530 --> 01:20:22,170 But when we look out, we're looking at budget deficits 980 01:20:22,170 --> 01:20:24,270 in every year going forward. 981 01:20:24,690 --> 01:20:26,450 And so we're looking at running into the negative. 982 01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:28,210 And you can do that for a few years, 983 01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:31,150 especially if you have some reserve saved up like we do. 984 01:20:31,830 --> 01:20:33,570 But there's a point when you cross that line 985 01:20:33,570 --> 01:20:34,370 and it's a problem. 986 01:20:34,850 --> 01:20:38,110 And when you're not balancing, when your budget's not balancing, 987 01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:41,710 at least most of the time, you really do have to make some changes. 988 01:20:41,710 --> 01:20:46,250 and there's there's fundamentally two ways to make changes. One is to look at additional 989 01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:50,990 revenue sources and or decrease expenses. And we're we're kind of at that point where 990 01:20:50,990 --> 01:20:56,230 we're going to have to take those adjustments to wait to want to get into the position of where 991 01:20:56,230 --> 01:21:00,610 the county is right now. No, we do not there definitely have to. We do not want to be in a crisis. 992 01:21:01,030 --> 01:21:07,890 That's the word. But I mean in that being said, there will come a time whether it's sooner 993 01:21:07,890 --> 01:21:12,910 or later we're going to have to make some really tough choices about where we want our revenue 994 01:21:12,910 --> 01:21:18,470 sources to come from because we will need to increase revenues and so whether that's looking 995 01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:23,050 at what kind of businesses we want to bring into our, I mean there's going to be some tough 996 01:21:23,050 --> 01:21:28,850 decisions so just keeping that in the back of our minds that we are going to sooner or later have 997 01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:35,170 to start looking for bigger sources of revenue for Arcadeok. And that really raises the point 998 01:21:35,170 --> 01:21:37,750 which is if if the tax doesn't pass in November, 999 01:21:38,430 --> 01:21:40,070 I would probably come back to you 1000 01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:42,350 at the first part of the next calendar year 1001 01:21:42,350 --> 01:21:43,310 with recommendations, 1002 01:21:43,630 --> 01:21:44,730 and I'll mention a few of the things 1003 01:21:44,730 --> 01:21:46,710 that I would think that we would consider 1004 01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:48,470 that we would have to start making those choices. 1005 01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:51,290 Because we don't want to get so far behind 1006 01:21:51,290 --> 01:21:52,450 that we don't have flexibility, 1007 01:21:52,810 --> 01:21:54,830 we want to be able to plan accordingly 1008 01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:57,270 and not have to make major reactions. 1009 01:21:58,930 --> 01:22:02,150 This was a version of what was in the staff report. 1010 01:22:02,330 --> 01:22:03,650 And it's basically your general fund 1011 01:22:03,650 --> 01:22:09,090 I'm going to, because you can see at the bottom, you're, you're decreasing your fund balance 1012 01:22:09,090 --> 01:22:15,650 every year from this year, from the current year forward through 2029. And at the end of the 1013 01:22:15,650 --> 01:22:20,210 five year period, you actually run it negative. I'm going to move forward one. It's the same numbers 1014 01:22:20,210 --> 01:22:26,010 here. It's just a little bit bigger. And, and the one thing I will say is that the estimated beginning 1015 01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:31,890 available is your, it is your unreserved fund balance in your general fund. It does not include 1016 01:22:31,890 --> 01:22:37,110 the 30% reserve. So you still have that set aside. So again, I feel like we're coming from 1017 01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:44,110 a strong place into this, but we are taking proactive steps to make sure that we can continue 1018 01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:49,470 to provide the services that we believe that our residents and businesses and visitors want, 1019 01:22:50,250 --> 01:22:55,990 but also in a very, you know, financially structured way. So we are in a good position, you 1020 01:22:55,990 --> 01:23:01,590 know, this year we actually budget it a deficit. We probably will be close to breaking even. 1021 01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:06,770 a little bit maybe a little bit negative. Next year we've got the $2.4 million in one-time 1022 01:23:06,770 --> 01:23:13,370 expenses and it's budgeted at a negative two and a half. And the next year 2020-26, let me 1023 01:23:13,370 --> 01:23:20,610 see if I can. Here's really where the change happens. I've stripped out the the CIP and the associated 1024 01:23:20,610 --> 01:23:25,990 grant funding and that really sees our starting point and you can see that we're at about a $1.3 1025 01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:31,390 million annual deficit. And the problem is our revenues are not growing as fast as our 1026 01:23:31,390 --> 01:23:33,590 expenses or at least that's what we're projecting out. 1027 01:23:34,090 --> 01:23:37,290 So that's where we start just slowly eating away at our reserves 1028 01:23:37,290 --> 01:23:40,050 to the point where we have nothing in five years. 1029 01:23:41,490 --> 01:23:43,430 And I think, you know, there are a few things. 1030 01:23:43,690 --> 01:23:46,850 These are recommendations that if I was at a staff level 1031 01:23:46,850 --> 01:23:49,590 having this conversation in January with you, you know, 1032 01:23:49,730 --> 01:23:54,330 we would certainly talk about, you know, cutting the, you know, 1033 01:23:54,430 --> 01:23:57,290 the ARPA funded programs, probably sooner rather than later. 1034 01:23:57,910 --> 01:24:01,250 And plan on that, at least by the end of the fiscal year, you know, 1035 01:24:01,250 --> 01:24:05,230 We would consider the measures the funded programs and whether or not we could support those. 1036 01:24:06,210 --> 01:24:10,230 We may look at things like re-evaluating the commitment to a green or zero emissions 1037 01:24:10,230 --> 01:24:10,730 fleet. 1038 01:24:10,890 --> 01:24:14,310 We do know that those vehicles are probably two and three times. 1039 01:24:15,450 --> 01:24:20,190 They're great investment in the long term, but not necessarily in the short term and 1040 01:24:20,190 --> 01:24:21,730 they are also hard to get. 1041 01:24:22,730 --> 01:24:28,330 We would consider sort of placing a freeze on staff replacements and evaluating service and service 1042 01:24:28,330 --> 01:24:33,850 levels. We would consider consolidation of city facilities and property. IE, we may look at 1043 01:24:33,850 --> 01:24:39,510 see if there's things that we can sell or, you know, distribute or allocate to somebody else. 1044 01:24:39,850 --> 01:24:44,050 And then I am always an advocate for reducing the interest cost on the pension liability. 1045 01:24:44,810 --> 01:24:51,490 It's still at 6.8% is what we pay when we don't fund it. I realize it takes money at front 1046 01:24:51,490 --> 01:24:56,590 but in the long term you will save money and so I don't want us to lose track of that. 1047 01:24:57,630 --> 01:25:26,390 The other thing, and the mayor sort of mentioned, is that we would have to start looking at how to increase revenue loss of that's the other side of the equation and a proactive economic development strategy with focus on businesses that really generate sales tax, transaction and use tax, and transient occupancy tax would be the focus that's where the money is, that's kind of what we need and that may look at ways to look at businesses. 1048 01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:32,350 that may be have not been necessarily favored here in the past, redevelopment and infill 1049 01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:38,050 to increase property taxes, but also to pull in additional growth that would add to our 1050 01:25:38,050 --> 01:25:44,190 sales tax base, and I realize that we have the general plan 25, 45 that is doing that and that 1051 01:25:44,190 --> 01:25:50,790 has some controversy. Taking a look at our subsidized programs and also improving cost recovery, 1052 01:25:50,810 --> 01:25:56,370 making sure that in the fees that we can charge that we are accurately recouping the 1053 01:25:56,370 --> 01:26:01,990 cost considering things like developer impact fees and other revenue sources that don't require 1054 01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:02,830 voter approval. 1055 01:26:03,230 --> 01:26:07,810 You know, I know there are some of these are a double-edged sword in the sense that developer 1056 01:26:07,810 --> 01:26:12,210 impact fees can discourage development, especially in housing, but it may be something 1057 01:26:12,210 --> 01:26:16,990 we want to dig into a little bit more and then things like the enhanced infrastructure financing 1058 01:26:16,990 --> 01:26:22,110 districts, which is really sort of a new tool that sort of looks like redevelopment agencies 1059 01:26:22,110 --> 01:26:29,710 from back in, you know, before 2012, but it's another way to add a layer of funding on your 1060 01:26:29,710 --> 01:26:34,950 property tax based on the increased values. And again, these may not all be popular, but they 1061 01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:37,890 are possibilities that the council would probably need to consider. 1062 01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:44,990 Could I clarify, when you say a number one, are you increasing not favorable businesses? 1063 01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:52,090 We're 1064 01:26:52,090 --> 01:26:55,530 has codified and it's coded and caps and things like that. 1065 01:26:57,710 --> 01:27:02,030 And this is just a list of programs that you could fund and I think that we've talked 1066 01:27:02,030 --> 01:27:06,310 about really wanting to continue in the ambassador program, juvenile diversion counselors, 1067 01:27:06,990 --> 01:27:14,410 missed or some version of this, out reach sergeant, valley west community center, electrification 1068 01:27:14,410 --> 01:27:19,250 of the city's fleet and equipment, complete streets program, homeless services, and then 1069 01:27:19,250 --> 01:27:23,990 making sure that we are maintaining our infrastructure. It's great that we've been able 1070 01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:27,750 to get these grants and we're adding new parks and we're adding new facilities and we're 1071 01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:32,950 adding new plants, but we do have to remember that in a short period of time, those actually 1072 01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:36,910 will require additional staff that we just don't have built into the current projections. 1073 01:27:37,710 --> 01:27:42,570 I could do. I know that we've already provided the link or the language has been provided 1074 01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:49,230 and you've included the community ambassador program and I know when FM3 did their survey a lot of 1075 01:27:49,230 --> 01:27:53,070 folks or some folks, we're not aware of the Ambassador program, but I don't see it in the 1076 01:27:53,070 --> 01:27:53,350 language. 1077 01:27:53,490 --> 01:27:58,790 I think it's an opportunity to educate folks between now and November, and I'm wondering 1078 01:27:58,790 --> 01:28:05,630 if it's not too late to put it in the Ambassador program seems to have such a positive response 1079 01:28:05,630 --> 01:28:07,650 for those who are aware of it. 1080 01:28:07,650 --> 01:28:12,450 I think if we were to educate the rest of those folks that are not aware of it, it might 1081 01:28:14,010 --> 01:28:20,230 might be able to pass the ballot, because it's these programs that are going to lose if 1082 01:28:20,230 --> 01:28:26,410 it doesn't pass, and I feel like our constituents need to hear that in particular the community 1083 01:28:26,410 --> 01:28:27,510 ambassador program. 1084 01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:34,050 And we didn't specifically talk about it for a few reasons. One that we want to be able to 1085 01:28:34,050 --> 01:28:39,590 over time make sure that the programs that we're offering really need the needs of the community. 1086 01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:45,590 And the community ambassador program may very well be one of those, but we we probably want a little bit of flexibility 1087 01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:55,790 And I do agree absolutely that we do need to get the word out and that we do need to do some some, you know, positive marketing of what they do and and 1088 01:28:55,790 --> 01:29:04,290 And to be honest, they are a fairly small cost for what they provide because they're part time because, you know, they they provide a service that 1089 01:29:04,290 --> 01:29:10,010 we don't get otherwise I would probably discourage you but it is up to council and you certainly 1090 01:29:10,010 --> 01:29:14,730 can decide if you want to add it to not change language at this time but we could if that was 1091 01:29:14,730 --> 01:29:20,710 something that you all chose to do. He's a small cost we're looking at 150,000. We're talking 1092 01:29:20,710 --> 01:29:26,530 about that's essentially one you know that's one that's actually less than one police officer. 1093 01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:31,350 I know fully good. I mean it's an amazing program yeah yeah I mean but I just 1094 01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:39,710 But I do think we did find that there were lots of folks who weren't in that a huge number, but of the people who were positive about the tax 1095 01:29:40,170 --> 01:29:47,430 And what the city was doing that was one that they seemed to not have quite a grasp of the program and I think we do need to get the word out there 1096 01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:54,620 Well, and if the idea is to provide flexibility in the funding and in case 1097 01:29:54,620 --> 01:29:59,900 I mean, of course, they weren't the program to be successful, but for some reason that's not meeting the needs anymore 1098 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,120 And then that's just one less thing to allocate funds for. So I understand why you're suggesting that we keep the language more general. 1099 01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:23,720 So just make sure I understand. So if we don't you include that in the language and it does pass, we still have the latitude to use that tax for funding program. 1100 01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,000 Okay, perfect. Thank you. 1101 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:33,940 I just want a number of years ago when our city manager actually probably pretty close 1102 01:30:33,940 --> 01:30:39,360 when she came on board. She really looked at the entire city and tried to consolidate 1103 01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:46,620 things and reduced expenses. And so now it really feels wonderful to have the opportunity 1104 01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:53,760 to have to fill some of the gaps that we had had with staff in a set and I really appreciate 1105 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:59,580 what you did, Karen, when you've scratched everything down and looked around and we're going, 1106 01:30:59,660 --> 01:31:05,620 oh my gosh, you know, and everybody was carrying a bigger load and gradually we've been able to 1107 01:31:05,620 --> 01:31:11,360 change that. That was our crisis moment. So we have built up and I don't want you to see you go there again. 1108 01:31:14,750 --> 01:31:23,230 We're doing that and then it's allowed us to see the difference and being able to come back closer to 1109 01:31:23,230 --> 01:31:25,750 what we should be having to run a city or a size. 1110 01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:29,310 All right, does anybody have any more discussion 1111 01:31:30,250 --> 01:31:34,560 on this agenda item? 1112 01:31:36,630 --> 01:31:40,190 This is just the language that is in your packet 1113 01:31:40,190 --> 01:31:41,090 in the resolution. 1114 01:31:42,350 --> 01:31:45,870 And again, unless you wanted to make some changes to it. 1115 01:31:46,210 --> 01:31:50,830 And just a reminder that you did have 72% support 1116 01:31:50,830 --> 01:31:53,170 for this from FM3 research. 1117 01:31:53,410 --> 01:31:55,250 And so we really want to carry that forward. 1118 01:31:55,250 --> 01:32:00,990 That's a pretty good number going in to putting it on the ballot and potentially elections. 1119 01:32:02,390 --> 01:32:11,410 I noticed on F on here it says authorizes the City Council or any member or members of the City Council to write the argument for the measure. 1120 01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:15,130 So we have a little bit. 1121 01:32:15,390 --> 01:32:16,030 I'm jumping to that. 1122 01:32:16,030 --> 01:32:23,350 No, and actually it is, I will tell you there's a little bit of duplicate between my resolution and the City Clerk's resolution. 1123 01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:29,630 and it was partly just wanting, I was, I probably overstepped, I'll to say that, but I wanted 1124 01:32:29,630 --> 01:32:34,930 to make sure that it was all covered and I didn't miss anything. So I think in the next 1125 01:32:34,930 --> 01:32:40,630 agenda item, it's more specific to who's probably appropriate to be on that committee than 1126 01:32:40,630 --> 01:32:45,350 the generic language that I included. So I don't think you need to take it that action. 1127 01:32:47,510 --> 01:33:07,450 So, if we're ready, I would build to adopt resolution number 234-52, which places a 3-4-1-cent addition to the city's transactions and use tax measure on the ballot for the general election to be held November 5th to 2024. 1128 01:33:07,450 --> 01:33:12,670 I will second. Okay, we have a motion time at Vice-Mary. 1129 01:33:13,650 --> 01:33:16,710 Stillman and a second from Councilman Shafer, all in favor. 1130 01:33:17,610 --> 01:33:19,450 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right, motion passes. 1131 01:33:20,090 --> 01:33:22,630 How are we doing? Anybody need a breaker? Can we do it? 1132 01:33:22,890 --> 01:33:27,210 Great. Okay. Okay. Let's take a five minute break. 1133 01:33:27,550 --> 01:33:29,250 Okay. Yeah, we're going to take away. 1134 01:37:07,090 --> 01:37:09,210 If we're already to come back. Let's, 1135 01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:21,140 we're coming back. 1136 01:37:40,220 --> 01:37:43,940 Good have watched like the first couple innings of the crabs game maybe. 1137 01:37:43,940 --> 01:37:44,860 not in a hot dog. 1138 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:47,300 All right. 1139 01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,980 Our next item for new business is to adopt resolution 1140 01:37:51,980 --> 01:37:56,000 number 234-57, calling for a general municipal 1141 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,980 election to be held in November 5th, 2024, 1142 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,820 and consider appointing a subcommittee to draft arguments 1143 01:38:01,820 --> 01:38:05,300 in favor of the transaction and use tax to you. 1144 01:38:05,300 --> 01:38:06,040 Team measure. 1145 01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:08,980 We have a staff report from Mr. Thank you. 1146 01:38:09,220 --> 01:38:10,860 Part of the role of local government 1147 01:38:10,860 --> 01:38:16,180 is to establish policies that ultimately conduct our municipal elections. 1148 01:38:16,780 --> 01:38:25,560 So in preparation for November 5th, 2024, staff has prepared resolution 234-57 which establishes 1149 01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:31,180 that process and then request that our general municipal election be consolidated with the statewide 1150 01:38:31,180 --> 01:38:37,320 general election, which is a minister by Hon. County. So our November ballot will elect 1151 01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:42,760 three council members, each full full full terms, and we'll consider the ballot measure calling 1152 01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:47,020 for the three quarter percent of one percent sale to you team, measure that you just passed 1153 01:38:47,020 --> 01:38:54,060 your previous item. Tonight is recommended that the City Council adopt resolution, number 234-57, 1154 01:38:54,380 --> 01:39:00,060 please read the whole title when you do. And if you agree to appoint a subcommittee of two council 1155 01:39:00,060 --> 01:39:06,240 numbers to draft the primary argument in favor of the transaction use tax ballot measure, and then 1156 01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:11,780 If needed, every butler argument, following the elections, scheduled deadlines, and I make 1157 01:39:11,780 --> 01:39:14,340 happy to lay out those deadlines in if you want to walk through them. 1158 01:39:14,440 --> 01:39:18,440 But I think if we can call for the election, then that I can work with that subcommittee. 1159 01:39:19,140 --> 01:39:19,220 Sure. 1160 01:39:20,060 --> 01:39:25,000 How did that, would there other people interested in being part of that subcommittee, people from 1161 01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:33,800 the, so I know that we had one volunteer from the Energy Committee Commission, and 1162 01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:42,320 Then we had a couple that were interested originally from the TUTO, the TUTOC committee that 1163 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,600 were interested in participating, and I didn't reach out to them, but we could. 1164 01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:52,080 So if you wanted to, you wanted staff to take that role and see if anybody else is interested 1165 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:57,040 in joining council, we certainly can do that, and it might be a good way to get a few more 1166 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:57,740 people involved. 1167 01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:58,240 Sure. 1168 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:02,740 And I think that time is kind of the absolute point. 1169 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,200 So I think that, I'm sorry, go ahead, anybody else? 1170 01:40:08,060 --> 01:40:09,180 I'm happy to do it. 1171 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,760 I feel like it's my job to be part of that subcommittee. 1172 01:40:13,460 --> 01:40:16,520 If there's two people, then anybody else is wanting 1173 01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:17,420 to be part of that subcommittee. 1174 01:40:17,420 --> 01:40:19,400 Yeah, I was going to say I don't think that 1175 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,900 me Alex or Stacey should do it, because we are already 1176 01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:24,140 going to be on the ballot in that election. 1177 01:40:24,940 --> 01:40:26,320 I just, I don't know, something about that doesn't seem right 1178 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:26,800 to me. 1179 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:36,780 And Stacey and I did our last one, and Alex has probably done a million too, so, you know, I think to let Kimberly and Meredith get some experience doing this and being part of it would be an idea. 1180 01:40:37,660 --> 01:40:39,700 So, but I also wanted to encourage- 1181 01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:39,920 Let's just- 1182 01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:40,960 Let's just don't want to- 1183 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,800 But because in the past, 1184 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,220 well, we talk or however you want to say to UT, 1185 01:40:48,220 --> 01:40:52,800 several people on their, you have worked on ballot measures before and the wording, 1186 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:57,740 and it would be nice if those people are interested in helping this time too because they 1187 01:40:57,740 --> 01:40:59,440 have that experience in the past. 1188 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:00,420 Yeah, so absolutely. 1189 01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:07,060 So I'm willing if it only needs to be one council member and those two talk people and I 1190 01:41:07,060 --> 01:41:11,840 think it was my blinker, then I'm fine to work with those people if council member White 1191 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:17,140 wants to be a part of that, for example, to have her along, it is up to you. 1192 01:41:19,980 --> 01:41:23,880 And I would add that even though it is an election year, it's up to each of you individually, 1193 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:29,700 they can argument some paper can have up to five signatures. It has an incustomary for the 1194 01:41:29,700 --> 01:41:34,580 entire council to sign them in the past so that's something that you'll consider at their 1195 01:41:34,580 --> 01:41:38,480 July meeting. We would want this prepared and coming back to for your July 19 meeting. 1196 01:41:39,540 --> 01:41:46,760 So the last one we had when we did measure G, no council member signed that. I'm going to 1197 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:52,440 around and I got different people in the community. I'm trying to get a wide group of people from 1198 01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:57,840 for an area as avenues of life, just sign it, because I thought that was more effective 1199 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:03,320 in the council's climate, but we can do whatever, but I'm just suggesting that. 1200 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:09,280 Yeah, and so I think that in this resolution, we are going to consider appointing a subcommittee, 1201 01:42:09,580 --> 01:42:14,340 so I say we consider appointing a subcommittee, so let's somebody make a motion. 1202 01:42:15,260 --> 01:42:21,440 I will make a motion to adopt resolution number two three four dash five seven, calling for a 1203 01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:29,700 I don't mean this collection to be held November 5th, 2024 and a point, a subcommittee of Mayor Matthews and 1204 01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:34,400 interested committee members and Council Member White if she wants to. 1205 01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:40,520 To drop arguments in favor of the transaction and use tax measure. 1206 01:42:41,980 --> 01:42:47,240 Okay. Okay, be the most in by Council Member Schiefer, second by my mayor, still in all in favor. 1207 01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:48,800 Hi. Hi. Hi. 1208 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:54,080 All right, motion passes, and now we can move on to receive a report from the County of 1209 01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:59,000 Humboldt, and provide input to the county to share our Cata's prioritization of essential 1210 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,560 services in an era of natural disasters. 1211 01:43:04,590 --> 01:43:10,370 All right, thank you, Mayor and Council Sean Quincy, with the County Administrative Office, 1212 01:43:12,170 --> 01:43:20,090 and I feel like I came in on a kind of a treat of an agenda for you all with the budget 1213 01:43:20,090 --> 01:43:26,770 and sales tax measure because I am one of those people as Miss Miller talked about who 1214 01:43:26,770 --> 01:43:33,210 goes to those financial conferences and goes to the student deex afterwards and we talk about 1215 01:43:33,210 --> 01:43:39,630 general find and total personnel and cost allocation plans and things like that so I feel 1216 01:43:39,630 --> 01:43:46,350 at home in this conversation. But before we get into our presentation this is my first time addressing 1217 01:43:46,350 --> 01:43:52,110 this spot in. So I just really quickly wanted to do this myself and then get into kind of why we're 1218 01:43:52,110 --> 01:44:00,550 here. But originally from San Diego moved up here in O2, went to formerly above a symbol state. 1219 01:44:01,190 --> 01:44:06,590 Studied early childhood development and journalism came out and worked at a couple of the newspapers. 1220 01:44:06,810 --> 01:44:13,910 I'm seeing a duric for reporter. We're also working in early childhood. Started at the county in 2012 1221 01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:21,010 and communications that have moved on to working on more policy and management issues, work 1222 01:44:21,010 --> 01:44:28,630 done measure Z back in 2014, renewal, measure J, the TOT and freeze, and so some additional 1223 01:44:28,630 --> 01:44:33,230 local revenue measures there, but it gives me a chance to work with fine quotes like your 1224 01:44:33,230 --> 01:44:38,930 city staff and several of you on some other issues and director Tom Matson on two other 1225 01:44:38,930 --> 01:44:39,210 issues. 1226 01:44:39,210 --> 01:44:42,190 So I'll tell you a second to introduce himself as well. 1227 01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:44,990 Currently Director of Public Works for the county, 1228 01:44:45,070 --> 01:44:47,110 I like Shaw and I came up here in 1986 1229 01:44:47,790 --> 01:44:50,510 to go to Humboldt State to get my engineering degree. 1230 01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:53,430 I'm currently chair of the engineering advisory board 1231 01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:56,690 for Cal Poly Humboldt as one of my side gigs. 1232 01:44:58,350 --> 01:44:59,970 I went down south for a couple of years back. 1233 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,720 The San Francisco Bay Area, and then as soon as SHN had a job opening in 1992, I jumped back up here, worked with 1234 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:11,920 them a couple of years, ran the landfill for a recology for a few years, and then jumped over to the county 1235 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:18,800 as deputy director of roads, and became director in 2005, and 19 years after that, I'm still here. 1236 01:45:19,620 --> 01:45:23,700 And things have been getting progressively better. Okay. 1237 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,980 But the reason we are, thank you for that. But the reason we're here 1238 01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:36,040 today as to talk about kind of how things have progressed as director mats and kind of alluded 1239 01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:42,560 to and where we are now working, where we could be heading to the future. And specifically 1240 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:48,560 in terms of natural disasters, over the last 10 years or so we've seen an increase in the number 1241 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:54,900 of natural disasters that are hitting our area. These disasters vary from storms and landslides 1242 01:45:54,900 --> 01:46:01,920 we saw down in a fully-recreet couple months ago, earthquakes, snowstorms, just runs the gamut, 1243 01:46:02,540 --> 01:46:07,500 the disasters are sometimes localized, sometimes they hit our entire community. But we're 1244 01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:14,160 seeing that they're increasing in frequency and intensity. And when these disasters happen along 1245 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:19,740 with the city, the county will proclaim local disasters, local emergencies, less frequently the state 1246 01:46:19,740 --> 01:46:23,860 and the federal government will proclaim emergencies. The reason that's relevant is because 1247 01:46:23,860 --> 01:46:29,740 is if the state and the federal governments declare disasters, that opens up funding channels. 1248 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,620 And for us to reclaim some of those costs, but if those disasters are not declared 1249 01:46:35,620 --> 01:46:40,100 at the state and federal level, those funding channels are cut off and were left to bear 1250 01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:44,120 the cost of those emergencies that are not of our own doing. 1251 01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:52,940 But these disasters, these rolling disasters, are starting to take a heavier poll on the county 1252 01:46:52,940 --> 01:46:57,880 government. At the same time, these are happening. We still need to find ways to deliver 1253 01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:02,320 the essential services that our community needs. As you guys have been talking about, 1254 01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:12,240 I'll leave you. And to talk a little bit about how we got here, our story begins with, 1255 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:16,940 at least for the kind of government's point of view, it begins with looking at the state. Because over the last 1256 01:47:16,940 --> 01:47:21,100 plus here's a state has taken more than a half billion dollars from the county's general 1257 01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:21,460 fund. 1258 01:47:22,020 --> 01:47:27,360 This is not hyperballyed, it's not funny math, these are reportable numbers, back in the 1259 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:32,100 90s, if you remember, the state could not meet its obligations, and so it changed the way 1260 01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:39,320 that local public taxes were allocated, and so it shifted our public taxes to take care 1261 01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:40,100 of state obligations, 1262 01:47:42,740 --> 01:47:46,920 and as I mentioned that I don't feel bad about 1263 01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:52,400 talking about something that happened way back in the 90s because our infrastructure was created 1264 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:57,380 well before that and our local needs and the way we addressed those local needs were 1265 01:47:57,380 --> 01:48:01,440 we're created in such a way that local property taxes were meant to take care of those local needs 1266 01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:08,040 and when the state outspent themselves they dip into local governments to take care of their own needs 1267 01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:15,480 and so we're still fighting that battle back here 30 plus years later and so that number 1268 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:26,440 We tell you that number every year what that diversion cost and in the current year 2324 that amount of that diversion equals is more than $25 million. 1269 01:48:26,740 --> 01:48:32,080 That's $25 million that would have otherwise been the county's general funds take care of local needs. 1270 01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:37,260 And that doesn't include some of the state mandates that staff mentioned tonight. 1271 01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:43,200 And it doesn't include future state takeaways as you all are well aware of the state 1272 01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:49,700 of facing a record deficit of between 37 and 73 billion dollars, depending on who is 1273 01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:50,500 kind of the numbers. 1274 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:55,520 And we find ourselves in an incredibly defensive position right now trying to protect from 1275 01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:56,800 future state takeaways. 1276 01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:03,180 The governors may revise from a few weeks ago, had hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts 1277 01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:07,240 to local emergency preparedness and transportation programs. 1278 01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:10,240 And so this is how these things happen. 1279 01:49:10,500 --> 01:49:12,280 When the state finds itself in a bind, 1280 01:49:12,700 --> 01:49:15,660 when the first place is that it goes as to dip into local governments 1281 01:49:15,660 --> 01:49:18,480 and redirect shift money. 1282 01:49:18,940 --> 01:49:22,340 If you look at all the proposals, there's a lot of this redirect 1283 01:49:22,340 --> 01:49:25,360 and shift that you'll find in there and we worry about that 1284 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:29,800 because that's shifting money away from local governments 1285 01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,280 to take care of our local needs. 1286 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:42,380 And so we're not the only ones who are recognizing our need to do more in terms of local disaster preparedness. 1287 01:49:43,380 --> 01:49:56,500 The grand jury last year in oblivious and June issued a report that said no uncertain turns that the humble county in the county government itself needs to do more to prepare for natural disasters. 1288 01:49:56,500 --> 01:50:09,480 because of our seismic, the way our topography is, our inclination for bad storms, and because 1289 01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:15,520 sea level rises exacerbating climate changes exacerbating the impacts of sea level 1290 01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:22,660 rise on our community. And so I mentioned the Grand Juries report from last year, because 1291 01:50:22,660 --> 01:50:27,920 The grand jury is an independent body who is making a public statement to our local community 1292 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:33,960 and our local leaders saying that we need to do more and so what we're doing now is an attempt 1293 01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:43,860 to rectify that. And I kind of, earlier in my presentation, I want to be, I meant to be 1294 01:50:43,860 --> 01:50:50,080 to address this issue and I wanted to be upfront with this council and this community that one 1295 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:56,960 our ways to rectify this issue or begin to help us prepare for, prepare better for natural 1296 01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:04,360 disasters is by placing a revenue measure on the ballot number. Staff alluded to it a little bit 1297 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:10,040 earlier but that is one of the things that we are heavily considering. We consider doing that in 1298 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:15,840 March and our board has directed us to do some more research and to potentially place something on 1299 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:24,540 out in November. So you all likely received a fine piece of mail. Sometimes last week 1300 01:51:24,540 --> 01:51:29,520 asked me to take a survey and identify which of priorities are, and that was part of this 1301 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,240 education effort that we're involved in on right now. 1302 01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:41,480 So to continue on, if I could leave this council with one thing, it's that we simply believe 1303 01:51:41,480 --> 01:51:45,640 that natural disasters are an everyday part of life 1304 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:46,900 for Humbuk County now. 1305 01:51:47,300 --> 01:51:49,480 And what that means for us is that we need to re-orient 1306 01:51:49,480 --> 01:51:52,180 the way that we deliver public services in the light 1307 01:51:52,180 --> 01:51:53,180 of this new reality. 1308 01:51:56,020 --> 01:51:59,220 And for the county government, we're seeing the impacts 1309 01:51:59,220 --> 01:52:02,300 of these natural disasters, mostly on our roads. 1310 01:52:03,460 --> 01:52:07,220 Tom can talk a little bit more about what these disasters 1311 01:52:07,220 --> 01:52:08,320 mean for our roads. 1312 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,420 But one thing that we need to do is that we 1313 01:52:10,420 --> 01:52:19,120 needs to harden our roads and that's, I mentioned that in the context of state and federal 1314 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:25,940 reimbursements, when we can state and federal reimbursements, that doesn't cover the full 1315 01:52:25,940 --> 01:52:32,060 cost of our natural disasters and the activities that we need to take in response to natural disasters 1316 01:52:32,060 --> 01:52:40,400 and repairing our roads. But all that Tom talked a little bit more about why that is and kind of 1317 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:46,120 So I'm going to mainly focus on the roads because without roads you have no disaster response. 1318 01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:56,360 So if we look back when I started with the county in February 1998, that March was my first declared disaster working for the county on the floods. 1319 01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:06,040 I wondered what I got into, so I looked past 20 years before that, and we were on average getting a federal declaration about once every three years. 1320 01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:14,300 spread out over time because many years we'll get a storm disaster in December. There's an 80% chance we're going to have another one in March 1321 01:53:14,300 --> 01:53:16,500 That's just the way our winners roll 1322 01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:18,220 So that was little bit 1323 01:53:18,780 --> 01:53:24,460 Then comes 2017 we got here with 41 million dollars a damage to the road system 1324 01:53:24,460 --> 01:53:32,000 Follow two years later by another 15 million and from 2022 to 2024 we have actually five disasters 1325 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:38,040 3 federally declared one state declared and one local disaster that were offered under. 1326 01:53:38,460 --> 01:53:42,100 And that's hit the road's department to at the tune of about $70 million. 1327 01:53:42,820 --> 01:53:45,200 My annual revenue is about $15 million. 1328 01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:53,000 And where it creates the problem is FEMA does not pay to harden the road's system after a disaster. 1329 01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,180 They pay to put it back the way it was. 1330 01:53:55,820 --> 01:53:58,760 Well, if it failed, the way it was, it's found a fail again. 1331 01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:13,300 There are ways, but there are very few to get additional hardening, which we've done, but we have repeat sites that are repeat sites, that are critical locations in the county to get supplies and people and food and everything else. 1332 01:54:13,300 --> 01:54:19,380 And so I'm having to take my maintenance money to pay because FEMA doesn't pay up front. 1333 01:54:19,540 --> 01:54:24,060 I have to pay for this right out of my local funding so that takes away from the maintenance. 1334 01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:28,400 And then it takes me six to ten years to get reimbursement. 1335 01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:35,080 So right now my road fund budget is actually a negative 10 million and it's being flooded by the county tax tax pressure 1336 01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:42,400 because they know I'm going to get money hopefully eventually, but it puts me in a position where I'm having the cut maintenance 1337 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:47,060 our maintenance, I'm sure you all know what a pavement condition index is, I'm sure 1338 01:54:47,060 --> 01:54:52,520 Nicholas presented to you on that. We were in the 60's going in a 2017, went 1339 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,860 out down the 49, and if we don't make changes in our funding stream and our 1340 01:54:56,860 --> 01:55:01,260 ability to do things, we're projecting to go down the 23 and 10 years, which is 1341 01:55:01,260 --> 01:55:05,420 basically most of our rural roads are going to start getting converted back to 1342 01:55:05,420 --> 01:55:11,660 gravel. And so that's, that's the vicious circle that we were in, we get the 1343 01:55:11,660 --> 01:55:36,360 with front-the-money, we don't have the money to harden the system, we defer maintenance, we get more damage, and as he said, it's, when I look at it as just like seven disasters since 2017, and one every three years history before that, things are changing, we're getting hit harder, and we're not able to keep up with things with the county infrastructure. 1344 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:51,160 And one point that we like to, I like to stress to this body when Tom mentions the PCI index 1345 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:58,180 on the scale of 1-100, so 69 is kind of average going down a little average. 1346 01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:08,260 There are six counties that are in what's considered a good range, 70 in above, and each of 1347 01:56:08,260 --> 01:56:11,280 them have multiple local revenue measures dedicated to railroad. 1348 01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:15,020 And so it's no surprise that additional local funding 1349 01:56:15,020 --> 01:56:17,400 needs better service on the roads. 1350 01:56:17,780 --> 01:56:21,880 And that 70 number is magical because that's where you're 1351 01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,880 basically reworking your house before your house collapses. 1352 01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,040 Where our house is collapsing. 1353 01:56:28,500 --> 01:56:31,880 It's a lot cheaper to maintain a road system that has a high PCI 1354 01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:36,520 than it is to rebuild entire road systems when we're getting to it. 1355 01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:40,940 And so this leads to 1356 01:56:40,940 --> 01:56:42,800 Is it a pay to ask the question? 1357 01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:48,560 We're happy to answer your questions as your light. 1358 01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:50,100 You're talking about harming roads. 1359 01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,320 Could you explain what that means? 1360 01:56:52,780 --> 01:56:55,440 That means putting in better retaining walls. 1361 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,580 That means a lot more rocks low protection. 1362 01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:59,200 That means we're routing roads. 1363 01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:03,020 What we can't do things to tie into about better geography. 1364 01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:07,480 A lot of the county's roads for the old wagon grass. 1365 01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:12,720 There were never designed, there were just pushed in, wherever it was easiest to get through, 1366 01:57:12,820 --> 01:57:18,120 and easiest to maintain at the time, which basically meant push and dirt into the river, 1367 01:57:18,220 --> 01:57:24,680 because they followed the river, or the ridges, and so hardening them means making them resilient 1368 01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:30,400 to the rainfall, making them resilient to earthquakes, instead of having roads on jello, 1369 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:33,600 having roads that are based in a foundation. 1370 01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:34,620 So 1371 01:57:36,700 --> 01:57:45,660 this leads us to the ask that we have with this council and that is last year as the 1372 01:57:45,660 --> 01:57:50,700 county was considering placing a measure on the ballot and for the March ballot. 1373 01:57:50,860 --> 01:57:56,840 We worked with FM3 to do a poll of the community and determined with our priorities 1374 01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,820 where and they came back with the list of priorities. 1375 01:57:59,820 --> 01:58:07,120 And I believe it's, I believe it may be in the packet tonight or not, but it was definitely 1376 01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:13,040 on the mail or that you all received last week, there was a list of, I think, seven rate 1377 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:13,520 priorities. 1378 01:58:14,460 --> 01:58:20,400 And it's a really disparate list of services, ranging from homelessness services to transportation, 1379 01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,220 to roads and 911 response. 1380 01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:37,500 But right now, because our funding is so limited, we need to get really granular on what the community really wants and so we want to build what the highest priority as among these high-ranking priorities. 1381 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:45,420 And so the ask of this council in this community is to weigh in and go to our website and take this survey and let us know what's important to you. 1382 01:58:45,420 --> 01:58:48,200 provide additional comments and things like that. 1383 01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:52,400 Later, this summer, we're a little bit behind you all 1384 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,460 in terms of developing our revenue measure 1385 01:58:54,460 --> 01:58:56,400 for the ballot in November. 1386 01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:00,020 But we'll be doing another scientific poll, 1387 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:04,020 where we call about 600 like the voters, 1388 01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:12,200 and really get kind of a scientifically backed idea 1389 01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:19,060 of where people's residents, priorities are, but we would like the community to take this 1390 01:59:19,060 --> 01:59:23,400 poll now and let us know among these priorities what's the highest. 1391 01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:29,820 The second ask that we would have this council and this community is that if there are other 1392 01:59:29,820 --> 01:59:36,920 community groups and within Arcada that you think would be a good fit to hear this message 1393 01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:42,260 and ask questions of us to let us know so that we can go out and talk to those groups, or 1394 01:59:42,260 --> 01:59:46,740 more than happy to go out and talk to folks about this and the impacts and natural disasters 1395 01:59:46,740 --> 01:59:52,360 and where we're going in the future. But with that, we are happy to answer any other questions 1396 01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:56,940 that you might have and thank you for your time, thank you for having us. 1397 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:11,120 I just want to remind folks because disaster related and maybe an opportunity for you to share is July 12th, 14th, the Arcada 1398 02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:20,320 Cert Community Emergency Response Team will be doing a training, so there will be 30 plus people and then of course everyone that they know they can share. 1399 02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:26,540 maybe I don't know. I was going to ask you because I didn't receive that survey so thank you for 1400 02:00:26,540 --> 02:00:34,560 directing me to the website and I will commit to take that survey. I guess what I this is we can't count 1401 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:42,440 on the vet. We found this out when we had our December 2022 earthquake when Rio Del got hit really 1402 02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:48,600 hard and they're still dealing with the aftermath of that. If it wasn't for boots on the ground like 1403 02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:55,120 brown-croffered and bringing in the world kitchen and other programs that be a lot worse off, 1404 02:00:55,660 --> 02:01:02,840 but this ballot measure will fill in that gap so that I mean if it is claimed a federal national 1405 02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:07,800 disaster that's great then we can put that money back in and use it somewhere you can pay 1406 02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:13,900 yourself back if they come in but if not you know they're still suffering and if we had that 1407 02:01:13,900 --> 02:01:19,980 of funds, or in this case the ballot measure, things would already be taken care of there. 1408 02:01:20,260 --> 02:01:21,900 So thank you for sharing this. 1409 02:01:23,380 --> 02:01:24,840 I would thank you for that. 1410 02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:30,840 I'll remember an example from the real dull earthquake was there were a number. 1411 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:35,280 I think there were 100 structures that were really yellow or red tagged. 1412 02:01:36,380 --> 02:01:38,780 And those families couldn't go back into those homes. 1413 02:01:38,780 --> 02:01:50,500 And so we needed to provide funding for some of those things to go live in hotels for a while and so the homes could get prepared. 1414 02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:58,460 And that funding is still looking for reimbursement for those funds, two almost two years later. 1415 02:01:58,900 --> 02:02:02,860 And that's local funding that was spent to do that luckily. 1416 02:02:02,860 --> 02:02:07,360 we had some art of money to spend on that. 1417 02:02:07,420 --> 02:02:10,340 So that's another example of some of these local needs 1418 02:02:10,340 --> 02:02:12,060 that may or may not get me in first 1419 02:02:12,060 --> 02:02:15,140 that we need to take care of our local community. 1420 02:02:17,420 --> 02:02:19,600 Just some thoughts to, I don't know, 1421 02:02:19,620 --> 02:02:20,820 share with everybody and share with you guys, 1422 02:02:20,980 --> 02:02:23,460 but I think that, and I haven't seen the survey yet, 1423 02:02:23,620 --> 02:02:25,840 we're taking it, but thank you for directing us that. 1424 02:02:26,260 --> 02:02:30,200 But I think it's really smart to take, 1425 02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,540 this lens of disaster preparedness 1426 02:02:32,540 --> 02:02:39,220 and bringing in the idea of climate change and that we are living in a reality where we are 1427 02:02:39,220 --> 02:02:44,200 only going to see more extreme weather, more extreme storms, and that literally our infrastructure 1428 02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:50,800 cannot handle it. And I think that coming at, you know, a measure of this way, especially looking 1429 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,700 at what communities, right, countywider, are going to be voting on and we talked about how for tuna 1430 02:02:54,700 --> 02:02:59,500 is going to have a tax measure in Arcada, and all of this that could be competing with those funds. 1431 02:02:59,500 --> 02:03:02,980 But I think to really focus effort in a community like Arcada 1432 02:03:02,980 --> 02:03:06,040 that has a track record of approving tax measures 1433 02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:08,880 and being pretty favorable to more taxes. 1434 02:03:09,820 --> 02:03:12,660 I think in my whole time living in Arcada, 1435 02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:17,060 which is my whole life, we usually tend to approve tax measures 1436 02:03:17,060 --> 02:03:18,520 and at least since I've been a voter. 1437 02:03:19,780 --> 02:03:21,840 And so to kind of take some of those priorities, 1438 02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,080 especially in Arcada where we're talking about climate change 1439 02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:28,280 and mitigating disasters, is definitely a higher priority, 1440 02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:41,540 probably for a lot of the voters than maybe in different parts of the county where there might be more conservative viewpoints that do not take the, you know, importance of time and change into account. 1441 02:03:42,140 --> 02:03:50,100 I think that, you know, that is a good viewpoint to take and I appreciate, you know, just the thoughtful presentation on that. 1442 02:03:51,400 --> 02:04:02,920 And, you know, because to focus that it is a different type of service, then for example our sales tax would be, you know, necessarily, there's definitely some overlap, but to focus on that. 1443 02:04:03,060 --> 02:04:05,040 And so thank you guys for your presentation tonight. 1444 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:10,160 And I just think that, you know, you've got a good beginning starts here. 1445 02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:14,100 So, yeah, looking forward to taking the survey as well. 1446 02:04:14,820 --> 02:04:20,220 One of the things, that's right, and then thinking of that too, just as far as groups to 1447 02:04:20,220 --> 02:04:24,660 liaison with and present to you, I mean, I think that especially in Arcade, I like our business 1448 02:04:24,660 --> 02:04:30,360 community is pretty active and reach out to the Chamber of Commerce and be able to talk to those 1449 02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:37,840 businesses about how it will impact them, but to be able to generate some of these positive ideas 1450 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:41,620 around what the chat tax would be going to, and then we're going to SACE. 1451 02:04:44,270 --> 02:04:50,550 I might have already said this when you guys presented at the circumuiting, I don't know, so I apologize if I did. 1452 02:04:50,870 --> 02:05:02,190 But what would be helpful to me and probably others that will have, you know, friends, family members, community members, asking us about this measure and like if they should support it or why. 1453 02:05:02,450 --> 02:05:11,030 Some type of a one-sheeter with some of the information you provide, especially regarding the roads, like what you said, is very powerful. 1454 02:05:11,770 --> 02:05:17,970 because you're talking about, you know, facts and numbers and some history, and so I think 1455 02:05:17,970 --> 02:05:21,970 if we had some of that information at our fingertips when it gets time to start talking 1456 02:05:21,970 --> 02:05:26,390 about this, we just need some cheat notes to help you out, is what I'm asking for, I guess. 1457 02:05:27,030 --> 02:05:29,070 Yeah, we're definitely in the process of helping you out. 1458 02:05:30,310 --> 02:05:35,790 Cool. Yeah, I can say from personal history, I lived in Orleans for 10 years. I know what is 1459 02:05:35,790 --> 02:05:42,850 disaster. Those roads are being stuck behind like rock size and whatnot. So it's super 1460 02:05:42,850 --> 02:05:50,230 important. I do think that keeping this in a very broad lens of climate change is probably 1461 02:05:50,230 --> 02:05:58,830 important because unfortunately but honestly like none of the taxific goes to roads is going 1462 02:05:59,570 --> 02:06:05,970 really go to Arcada. These are all like county districts and so I just want to 1463 02:06:05,970 --> 02:06:10,250 make sure because we have a very important tax measure and our ballot too that 1464 02:06:10,250 --> 02:06:16,570 we are capturing a kind of what's in it for us as well because 1465 02:06:20,990 --> 02:06:22,410 we're all of 1466 02:06:22,410 --> 02:06:27,310 this. We're all in the same boat. I mean we had long discussions because we know 1467 02:06:27,310 --> 02:06:31,150 whether people are going forward, but we can't not do anything. 1468 02:06:33,390 --> 02:06:37,990 And if you want to go somewhere else than just in Arquita, you may have to take 1469 02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:41,010 one of your roads if you want to tell them how to road. 1470 02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:46,310 And so that might be, you know, for citizens, I would suggest you hit the road 1471 02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:47,550 reason Arquita. 1472 02:06:48,450 --> 02:06:49,630 Sunrise and moon. 1473 02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:57,020 It's funny you mentioned that because in 1964, the only way into the county was Bell Springs 1474 02:06:57,020 --> 02:07:00,560 road, which is a county road from Mendocino to Ambo County. 1475 02:07:01,020 --> 02:07:05,500 Or you flew in because I worked for the airlines and all the planes just had boxes 1476 02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:10,360 in the seats and all over the airport, everyone's sleeping because they couldn't all over the 1477 02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:10,520 floor. 1478 02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:11,680 They couldn't get here. 1479 02:07:12,180 --> 02:07:18,260 My own was entire house was moved because of 60 were fled down in or it means it's all 1480 02:07:18,260 --> 02:07:18,580 thing. 1481 02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,060 Anyway, thank you so much. 1482 02:07:20,300 --> 02:07:25,020 Please reach out to us if there's anything else we can do to help you and there's no other 1483 02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:25,440 questions. 1484 02:07:25,780 --> 02:07:26,520 Thanks, thank you. 1485 02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:33,140 explaining hardening, because it's all we hear about it is from fire point of view where 1486 02:07:33,140 --> 02:07:37,080 you're getting rid of the vegetation around your house and you're doing this and that. 1487 02:07:37,100 --> 02:07:40,540 But hardening roads is a, I'm glad you explained that. 1488 02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:41,460 Thank you, Tom. 1489 02:07:42,180 --> 02:07:50,780 And if I might just add as a final note, and thank you again, to the point of different jurisdictions, 1490 02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:55,480 placing measures on the ballot, what I'd begin the presentation with on the state 1491 02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:59,640 takeways, affects cities too, that property tax 1492 02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:02,460 reallocation, that hits cities too in a big way. 1493 02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:07,820 And so when we hear that cities are putting sales, tax 1494 02:08:07,820 --> 02:08:10,240 measures are local, sales tax measures on the ballot, 1495 02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,380 or responses we get it. 1496 02:08:12,460 --> 02:08:15,580 We understand that there is, there's not enough funding 1497 02:08:15,580 --> 02:08:19,520 to take care of local needs, even at the county 1498 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:20,240 in the city. 1499 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,680 And Council Member Schaefer, to your point about the climate 1500 02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:34,520 change piece. I would say that there's shared interest throughout the county around doing 1501 02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:42,200 our part to whatever extent we can to reverse the effects of climate change or neutralized 1502 02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:47,420 natural neutralize them or do what we can. Especially in terms of public transportation, 1503 02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:53,280 the public transportation system here in bus service, especially for seniors, disability, 1504 02:08:53,280 --> 02:09:00,500 low income. We need to make sure that that service is guaranteed for those who need it. 1505 02:09:00,580 --> 02:09:08,780 And so that's a big emphasis in this measure too. That's to the point of taking a climate effort 1506 02:09:08,780 --> 02:09:13,920 with some climate action as well. But thank you again for having us who really appreciate it. 1507 02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:18,940 Thank you so much. So following up on what Stacy said, and you get that sheet, 1508 02:09:18,940 --> 02:09:29,120 You should really make sure it's available for everyone that represents people on HTA, how much transit authority is you know, talking about the roads and probably H. Cog also. 1509 02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:38,220 Well, I think you should look at all the joint power agreements and make sure everyone in joint power gets hit because there are different representatives on each joint power. 1510 02:09:38,900 --> 02:09:42,280 So that way you could cover at least the council members. Thank you. 1511 02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:43,380 You'd expect it in your inbox. 1512 02:09:44,980 --> 02:09:46,120 Thank you so much. 1513 02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:46,580 Thank you. 1514 02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,500 And with that, this meeting is adjourned. 1515 02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:52,340 Thank you so much.