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decision-making, we are currently

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simply gathering your

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advice so that we can

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move forward with our

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budgeting plans

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for the year. Scott,

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Melody, and Norberto

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will guide us

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through the

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presentation tonight and

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give us assignments

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at each table, and

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then we will

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wander around, answer

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any questions

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, provide support,

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and interact with you

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throughout the

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process. So I'll

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pass the word on to them.

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Thank you, Dr. Smith.

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Good evening everyone.

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We're actually really

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excited to be here and have

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the opportunity

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to talk about how

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we're formulating

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strategies and

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reaching some

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consensus on how to

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use our

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staffing

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ratios and

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our processes both in the

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departments and on the

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campuses at the

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most

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effective level.

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Melody, you can

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continue. So, from a

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purpose perspective, we'll

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talk about what

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we're doing today and

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maybe some

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ideas and recommendations

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for what we're

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doing differently to

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maximize these

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resources and

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contribute to our

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long-term

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financial sustainability.

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And as Dr. Smith just pointed out

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the presentation is

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only intended to continue

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our strategic

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discussions. At this

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point, this is not a decision,

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conclusions, or even

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recommendations, but

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an opportunity to have an

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active discussion and

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make sure we

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get feedback

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from the board. So why does

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efficiency

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matter in

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department

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and campus staffing? You know,

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obviously we're

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trying to solve the

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financial problem of

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the district. I think

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most of you know

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that 90% or more of

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our budget

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comes down to

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staff costs. Well

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-funded, well-

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placed and well

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-targeted, but they

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account for

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the vast majority of

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our budget, so

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we need to be

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as efficient as possible

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in trying to address

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this budget shortfall.

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In the process of doing this, we

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want to make sure

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that we protect the

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student experience. We

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want to make

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the right decisions

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about efficiency. We do

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not want to do anything

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that contradicts the

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results of quality

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student learning. And

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finally, we want,

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by considering these

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strategies and these

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alternatives,

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to strengthen the

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effectiveness of our

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system. We want

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to look at processes,

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what works, what has the

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potential to work

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differently.

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Thinking about things differently

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is often the path to

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improvements, unlike

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how we

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necessarily did it

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before. And then

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put planning

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behind how we will

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achieve it. So

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I'll hand it over to Norberto for a moment

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, and he'll

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walk us through the

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neighborhood comparison.

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first slide, it was

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shown when we

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had a public

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hearing on the

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budget. And

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you will see several

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slides in the same

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format with

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similar

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districts. And this will be

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different

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data being compared. So here you

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will see that on

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each slide there will be

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our district with an arrow pointing

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to it. And then this one

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just shows the

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fund balance as

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of 12/25, and it shows

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two asterisks

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showing what the

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fund balance would be at the

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final limit, and

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then the fund balance with the

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adopted budget. And

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we just recently

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entered the

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bond market, and one of the

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strengths that

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both rating agencies attributed to us

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was actually a

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high rating, a

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strong financial

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position. Our

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policy requires

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us to have 90 days or

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more, so it's fine for now

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just a moment, Mr.

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point out to our council

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that the districts that you

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see us

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compared to below, the ones

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that you adopted, we

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presented to you

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over a year ago. We

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presented to you to

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say, "Let's

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capture the counties

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we want to

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compare ourselves to." And we

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set of districts in

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several ways.

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wonder why you

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see several

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names there. These are the ones we

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presented to you. I think

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it was actually in

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November 2020,

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shows the first

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comparison of ratings

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. There is a note at the bottom.

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data for the 2024-25

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financial year. This is the

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same data that will be

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presented at the

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public hearing

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tonight.

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particular schedule,

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as of 2025, all

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periodic issues

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were rated A. On the

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next slide, you

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see the overall

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tax rate. This is for the

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2025-26 financial year,

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which is last year.

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I don't have data for the

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current year because

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they have

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n't implemented

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their tax

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rate yet by the time I was compiling this. Again,

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you see us here, in

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this case, closer

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to the middle. This

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includes both Plano and

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IMS. On the next

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slide, you see the same

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like-minded districts, but you

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see the total

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general

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fund spending per student.

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are on one

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side, but there are a few

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that are very comparable

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in size to us

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that are doing more

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closer to the middle.

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Conroe, hover

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just below the market with

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50,000 students. On

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the next slide you

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will see the average

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number of students in

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the school. This does not take into account

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the range of classes. So

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, there's a little note at the bottom

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. What I did was

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take the last

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reported

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enrollment figure

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from the TA TA report, and I took

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the number of schools that the

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ISDs report.

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total number of

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students divided by the

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total number of

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schools. So, depending

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on the Individual

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and how

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the grades are set,

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this may have some

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skew.

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ratio

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was mentioned earlier on the next slide.

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This is the ratio of

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the number of students

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to the total staff.

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Um, and it shows where

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we are. On the

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next slide, the

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ratio of

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students

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to teaching

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staff. So, this is the

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same number of

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students, this

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includes the teachers from the

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previous slide,

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but here–only the

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teachers. If the

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previous slide

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had all the

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employees, then this one has

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the teachers. And you

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see where we

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ended up. The

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next slide

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will show everyone

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else who is not a

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teacher,

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right? So we had

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all the employees, and

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then a second chart

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with just the faculty, and

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tables show

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all the other

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employees. They are

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based on

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TA TA categories. There's

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a note here, a

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handout

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at the very end of your

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documents, and it

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contains all the positions. I

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can't list

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them all. And then you

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see us

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shaded in blue

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. The first is

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the number of students

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divided by

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administrative

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staff, and

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administrative

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staff is listed there. The

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campus administrative staff

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includes principals and

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assistant principals

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. A local street was introduced a few years ago

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that

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excluded

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campus staff. So the numbers

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between these two will be

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different. Next

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is the support

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staff. And then

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you have assistants, which

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only include

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assistants and

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certified

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translators. And

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the last one is the

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support staff.

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This is a kind of

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general list. It

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includes, um,

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campus and department specialists,

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nurses,

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counselors. So,

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you see us, I think

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, at different points on the

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table. And

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the note in bold is that the higher

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the number, the higher the

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efficiency of the birds.

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The key word is

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inverted

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efficiency, because just because

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you have a very

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high level doesn't

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mean you are very

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efficient. It just

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depends on what

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your

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staff looks like, what

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your

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operations look like, and how

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involved you are with your own

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employees,

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right? Because if

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the district is concerned with

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assistants who have

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support staff,

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then they could have

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distorted their

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own data. So, this is

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just a general

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comparison. So,

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moving on, here is the

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first point for

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discussion. So,

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three questions that you

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can discuss with

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your tables, and

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then we'll come back as a

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whole group in a

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few minutes and

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share popcorn

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throughout the room.

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Looking at all these

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graphs, which ones

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best

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align with what

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we have in our

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strategic plan?

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Another question,

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another topic for

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discussion might

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be how do we define

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and measure success?

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And finally, if you

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go back to these

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graphs and divide

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them into quartiles, we

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have the top four, the

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bottom four, the

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middle four, does

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that change the perspective of

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how our race has changed

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? So, we'll give

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you all a few

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minutes to

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talk to your

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groups, and then we'll

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come back as a whole

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group.

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And you should have

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printed

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presentations at

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your desks. We'll

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leave it here so

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you can see

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the questions and links,

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but as for

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comparing the slides

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with the questions, we'll

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just share and

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you should have a

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printed

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presentation. Number

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one. How many slides

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...

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We're going to get

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back together. We

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are going to

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come back together. Do you

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all want

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to share what

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you talked about? This

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table will be the first.

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So we're going to, uh,

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look at the

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most important slides, the

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most important

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parts were

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slide 10, which is

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about student

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teachers, and it

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ties into slides

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7 and 9, which are really the

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same story of

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spending money on a

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whole bunch of people.

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Essentially, that's what

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this slide is saying.

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So, when it was

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ours, we really

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fit into both of

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our families. Do you

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want to continue? Do you

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want to share?

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Yes. For us, slide 9

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was key, but we

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assumed that the ones

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provided. Hmm, this one

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clearly shows that we are

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seeing

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inefficiencies. What

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slide is this?

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Slide

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nine and all that.

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students to all

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staff.

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And then when you

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look at teachers,

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it's also interesting that we're

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all in the

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middle and

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narrow range.

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Hmm, because of, you know,

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teacher ratio requirements. But this

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shows that besides

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teachers, we have

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some inefficiencies

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that we need to

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pay attention to. But

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the one you

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shared right

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after that would be this one

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. Slide 12.

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Stark noted that

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for each of these

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categories, there are

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significantly different

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average

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full-time

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employment costs associated with these costs. And our most

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underperforming

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residency is

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paraprofessionals, and

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they're probably not,

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they're probably the

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lowest paid

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group here.

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Not ineffective, but

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inexpensive. Is that what you

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mean?

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Ineffective, that's what

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...

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Yes, they are definitely

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effective. We

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need a couple...

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No, I'm for... No, the

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staff ratio...

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I get it. I

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understand.

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Ineffective.

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Yes. Uh-huh.

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But we need to

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look at, you know,

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how to optimize...

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You know, there are other

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constraints that we

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need to

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optimize or

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minimize

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reductions that

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directly

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affect the class.

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Yes.

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Wherever possible. And in

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this case, if

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we focused only

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on where we are

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most inefficiently

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staffed, the savings wouldn't

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even be

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that great.

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And the reason I

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also mentioned

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paraprofessionals is because

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they support

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learning. They

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help

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teachers in the classroom with

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teaching.

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I think it's

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really important for us

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to consider this when

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we're considering

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adjusting

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staffing ratios. Are

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we asking questions?

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Liz, I understand.

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Sorry. I don't think

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we say something is

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inefficient until we

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define what

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efficiency means.

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I understand.

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So if you look at

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it as a pure

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staff ratio, and it's

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huge because of the

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students, it doesn't

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necessarily indicate

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inefficiency, and

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you can know that there is

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value that you're

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getting for that

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position. So there might

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be some positions,

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for example, I'll just

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make one up.

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For example,

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teacher assistants, which we

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may not be

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responsible for in some

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other districts. I don't

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know if this is the exact

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position, but there may

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be positions that we

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actually find

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valuable for our

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classrooms, even if

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we use them

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more compared to

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our comparable

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districts, because

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they help

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teachers and

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improve elementary

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education. So they

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could arise without

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increasing the

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ratio only with

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efficiency.

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And we have...That's what we

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had a caveat about,

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right? This is a deduced

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efficiency because it is

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all true. But it

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depends on how

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we compose and how we

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want to compose.

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Lazy in how I

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choose it.

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I would also like to

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share,

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comment on slide

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six. You would be

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interested to know which

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districts have made the most of

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M&O or

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at least achieved

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it.

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Good.

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And just to know where there

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is some room for

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growth for them, or are

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they in

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this place because they

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can't grow?

619
00:13:13,822 --> 00:13:14,731
Because some of these

620
00:13:14,731 --> 00:13:15,251
areas are not

621
00:13:15,251 --> 00:13:16,187
going to grow

622
00:13:16,187 --> 00:13:17,327
out of there in the future.

623
00:13:17,327 --> 00:13:18,496
What I can do is I

624
00:13:18,496 --> 00:13:19,568
can go ahead and

625
00:13:19,568 --> 00:13:20,543
create a pretty much the

626
00:13:20,543 --> 00:13:21,713
same graph,

627
00:13:21,713 --> 00:13:22,785
divided into three

628
00:13:22,785 --> 00:13:24,787
parts. M&O, M&O and

629
00:13:24,787 --> 00:13:26,552
Richmond Penny, and

630
00:13:26,552 --> 00:13:28,655
then I&S. They will be

631
00:13:28,655 --> 00:13:29,568
covered there.

632
00:13:29,568 --> 00:13:31,180
And then we have three. Are

633
00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:32,394
we showing ourselves in the

634
00:13:32,394 --> 00:13:35,372
second question? Uh,

635
00:13:35,372 --> 00:13:35,950
for this

636
00:13:35,950 --> 00:13:36,883
ratio,

637
00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:37,719
four tiles

638
00:13:37,719 --> 00:13:38,845
doesn't really make

639
00:13:38,845 --> 00:13:39,299
sense.

640
00:13:39,299 --> 00:13:40,808
Which one do you want, uh

641
00:13:40,808 --> 00:13:43,827
, nine. Uh, and

642
00:13:43,827 --> 00:13:44,775
then you know,

643
00:13:44,775 --> 00:13:45,825
especially when you

644
00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:47,145
want for all of them in

645
00:13:47,145 --> 00:13:52,522
range. What is, where is this

646
00:13:52,522 --> 00:13:53,725
outer limit of what

647
00:13:53,725 --> 00:13:54,594
is considered a

648
00:13:54,594 --> 00:13:55,095
good

649
00:13:55,095 --> 00:13:56,398
ratio, and that

650
00:13:56,398 --> 00:13:57,401
, I think, is more

651
00:13:57,401 --> 00:13:58,102
about the

652
00:13:58,102 --> 00:13:59,372
average of

653
00:13:59,372 --> 00:14:00,708
this group, and that's more

654
00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:02,012
applicable, especially

655
00:14:02,012 --> 00:14:03,315
because when we hit the

656
00:14:03,315 --> 00:14:04,618
average,

657
00:14:04,618 --> 00:14:05,921
we'll completely close

658
00:14:05,921 --> 00:14:06,589
our budget

659
00:14:06,589 --> 00:14:12,110
next year.

660
00:14:12,110 --> 00:14:13,225
This is actually a great

661
00:14:13,225 --> 00:14:14,225
transition because you

662
00:14:14,225 --> 00:14:15,226
will be talking to

663
00:14:15,226 --> 00:14:16,270
me too soon.

664
00:14:16,270 --> 00:14:17,096
Any final

665
00:14:17,096 --> 00:14:18,171
comments before I

666
00:14:18,171 --> 00:14:19,181
get back on topic?

667
00:14:19,181 --> 00:14:20,048
Do we know, if the

668
00:14:20,048 --> 00:14:21,099
vertical line

669
00:14:21,099 --> 00:14:21,888
that we're looking at is

670
00:14:21,888 --> 00:14:22,650
the ratio of

671
00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:23,623
students to total

672
00:14:23,623 --> 00:14:24,648
staff, what number

673
00:14:24,648 --> 00:14:25,200
typically

674
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,041
moves

675
00:14:26,041 --> 00:14:26,724
one percent

676
00:14:26,724 --> 00:14:27,697
relative to what it

677
00:14:27,697 --> 00:14:28,696
actually roughly

678
00:14:28,696 --> 00:14:29,809
equals? You know,

679
00:14:29,809 --> 00:14:30,729
if we wanted to

680
00:14:30,729 --> 00:14:31,819
move one to

681
00:14:31,819 --> 00:14:32,968
the left, what is that?

682
00:14:32,968 --> 00:14:33,825
So if we

683
00:14:33,825 --> 00:14:34,540
work

684
00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:35,934
backwards,

685
00:14:35,934 --> 00:14:37,363
we would multiply that by

686
00:14:37,363 --> 00:14:38,685
15,000 students, just

687
00:14:38,685 --> 00:14:39,900
to get it close,

688
00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:41,716
right? And then, and then

689
00:14:41,716 --> 00:14:42,927
you would come back to

690
00:14:42,927 --> 00:14:45,264
it. And that would give you,

691
00:14:45,264 --> 00:14:46,357
because multiplied by 50

692
00:14:46,357 --> 00:14:47,484
students gives you

693
00:14:47,484 --> 00:14:48,133
the number of

694
00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:49,430
employees, which for

695
00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:50,660
this

696
00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:51,992
benchmark was,

697
00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:53,373
I think, 8,100. So this is a

698
00:14:53,373 --> 00:14:54,383
way of working

699
00:14:54,383 --> 00:14:55,579
backwards.

700
00:14:55,579 --> 00:14:56,476
Yes, I'm trying

701
00:14:56,476 --> 00:14:57,194
to figure out what it

702
00:14:57,194 --> 00:14:57,912
takes to

703
00:14:57,912 --> 00:15:01,361
move. And

704
00:15:01,361 --> 00:15:02,113
you need to

705
00:15:02,113 --> 00:15:05,270
take all this into account. So, we will have

706
00:15:05,270 --> 00:15:06,206
three different

707
00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:07,645
possibilities. This was the

708
00:15:07,645 --> 00:15:09,035
first. Now I have

709
00:15:09,035 --> 00:15:10,217
some discussions and

710
00:15:10,217 --> 00:15:11,400
I want to make sure

711
00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,717
we take them into account. So

712
00:15:12,717 --> 00:15:13,348
I'm going to

713
00:15:13,348 --> 00:15:14,486
move forward

714
00:15:14,486 --> 00:15:15,745
at this point. Regarding

715
00:15:15,745 --> 00:15:16,700
departments, if we

716
00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:18,064
are going to improve

717
00:15:18,064 --> 00:15:19,189
efficiency, we

718
00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:20,417
need to improve

719
00:15:20,417 --> 00:15:22,741
effectiveness. Um,

720
00:15:22,741 --> 00:15:24,080
the departments should be

721
00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,454
either the same or have a

722
00:15:25,454 --> 00:15:26,760
higher level of influence

723
00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,946
than the campus currently has. And we

724
00:15:29,946 --> 00:15:31,093
must do everything we

725
00:15:31,093 --> 00:15:31,806
can to

726
00:15:31,806 --> 00:15:32,643
directly

727
00:15:32,643 --> 00:15:34,130
protect the audience.

728
00:15:34,130 --> 00:15:35,186
With that in mind, we

729
00:15:35,186 --> 00:15:36,305
need a structure

730
00:15:36,305 --> 00:15:37,518
for how we make

731
00:15:37,518 --> 00:15:38,606
these decisions and how we

732
00:15:38,606 --> 00:15:39,818
arrive at a strategy

733
00:15:39,818 --> 00:15:40,999
for what we do or do

734
00:15:40,999 --> 00:15:42,540
n't do. And so we

735
00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:43,181
put together this

736
00:15:43,181 --> 00:15:44,431
eight-step process

737
00:15:44,431 --> 00:15:45,328
, at least to

738
00:15:45,328 --> 00:15:46,545
discuss how

739
00:15:46,545 --> 00:15:47,667
we get there from here

740
00:15:47,667 --> 00:15:50,363
. When we

741
00:15:50,363 --> 00:15:51,061
think about

742
00:15:51,061 --> 00:15:52,552
planning for a

743
00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:53,758
central office transformation,

744
00:15:53,758 --> 00:15:54,901
we conduct the analysis

745
00:15:54,901 --> 00:15:56,107
we just

746
00:15:56,107 --> 00:15:57,027
participated in with this kind of

747
00:15:57,027 --> 00:15:59,234
data. We have already started

748
00:15:59,234 --> 00:16:00,379
visiting

749
00:16:00,379 --> 00:16:01,046
districts to

750
00:16:01,046 --> 00:16:02,254
try to get

751
00:16:02,254 --> 00:16:03,271
best practices

752
00:16:03,271 --> 00:16:04,543
of what they are doing,

753
00:16:04,543 --> 00:16:05,783
which we may not have

754
00:16:05,783 --> 00:16:06,927
thought about in terms of

755
00:16:06,927 --> 00:16:07,754
efficiency,

756
00:16:07,754 --> 00:16:08,453
particularly for the

757
00:16:08,453 --> 00:16:11,240
central office. And

758
00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,401
as a result of that

759
00:16:12,401 --> 00:16:13,248
level of analysis,

760
00:16:13,248 --> 00:16:14,378
turning this

761
00:16:14,378 --> 00:16:15,006
into a case of

762
00:16:15,006 --> 00:16:16,010
defining our

763
00:16:16,010 --> 00:16:17,758
goal. We don't want to

764
00:16:17,758 --> 00:16:19,035
just set a blind

765
00:16:19,035 --> 00:16:20,083
goal, so the first

766
00:16:20,083 --> 00:16:22,443
step comes first. But

767
00:16:22,443 --> 00:16:23,751
once you have a goal

768
00:16:23,751 --> 00:16:24,522
, you go and take

769
00:16:24,522 --> 00:16:25,494
inventory of

770
00:16:25,494 --> 00:16:26,667
the work and assess the

771
00:16:26,667 --> 00:16:28,008
criticality of the value of

772
00:16:28,008 --> 00:16:29,248
some of those thoughts,

773
00:16:29,248 --> 00:16:29,986
suggestions,

774
00:16:29,986 --> 00:16:30,992
recommendations, and

775
00:16:30,992 --> 00:16:34,893
strategies. Hmm, it's really

776
00:16:34,893 --> 00:16:35,818
important that we

777
00:16:35,818 --> 00:16:37,041
do things like

778
00:16:37,041 --> 00:16:38,330
make sure that we're not

779
00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,709
creating compliance issues

780
00:16:40,742 --> 00:16:41,865
or strategic

781
00:16:41,865 --> 00:16:43,154
priorities, and that we're

782
00:16:43,154 --> 00:16:43,682
not having

783
00:16:43,682 --> 00:16:44,773
unintended

784
00:16:44,773 --> 00:16:47,811
consequences. So that we don't

785
00:16:47,811 --> 00:16:48,950
focus on

786
00:16:48,950 --> 00:16:50,152
one thing and not pay

787
00:16:50,152 --> 00:16:51,355
attention to what changes

788
00:16:51,355 --> 00:16:52,335
can do in

789
00:16:52,335 --> 00:16:54,107
other directions. Hmm,

790
00:16:54,107 --> 00:16:55,267
so that we have a very

791
00:16:55,267 --> 00:16:56,494
broad perspective

792
00:16:56,494 --> 00:16:57,820
as we go through this

793
00:16:57,820 --> 00:16:59,074
process. Hmm, there are things

794
00:16:59,074 --> 00:16:59,791
related to

795
00:16:59,791 --> 00:17:00,848
rethinking the

796
00:17:00,848 --> 00:17:02,041
implementation model

797
00:17:02,041 --> 00:17:06,420
that may arise.

798
00:17:06,420 --> 00:17:07,602
We can achieve

799
00:17:07,602 --> 00:17:08,819
certain results

800
00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:10,170
today with a certain, um,

801
00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:11,454
certain staff, meaning

802
00:17:11,454 --> 00:17:12,603
all of them are salaried

803
00:17:12,603 --> 00:17:13,752
or all of them are auxiliary

804
00:17:13,752 --> 00:17:15,104
or all of them... It was said a moment ago

805
00:17:15,104 --> 00:17:16,388
that there are... And

806
00:17:16,388 --> 00:17:17,503
it is correct that there are

807
00:17:17,503 --> 00:17:18,685
parts of the staff

808
00:17:18,685 --> 00:17:20,037
that cost more

809
00:17:20,037 --> 00:17:24,636
than others. And do

810
00:17:24,636 --> 00:17:25,862
we do things a certain way

811
00:17:25,862 --> 00:17:27,088
in the implementation model,

812
00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:28,378
or who is responsible for

813
00:17:28,378 --> 00:17:29,217
implementing that in the

814
00:17:29,217 --> 00:17:30,378
most efficient and

815
00:17:30,378 --> 00:17:31,636
effective way

816
00:17:31,636 --> 00:17:32,789
? Hmm, and these things

817
00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:33,491
require

818
00:17:33,491 --> 00:17:34,428
thought and

819
00:17:34,428 --> 00:17:35,555
consideration. So

820
00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:36,235
before we

821
00:17:36,235 --> 00:17:37,499
move forward and

822
00:17:37,499 --> 00:17:38,730
we have some

823
00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:39,994
ideas about what we might

824
00:17:39,994 --> 00:17:41,063
want to

825
00:17:41,063 --> 00:17:42,165
do differently, the

826
00:17:42,165 --> 00:17:43,461
key thing is to slow down

827
00:17:43,461 --> 00:17:44,628
, make sure

828
00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:45,503
that we assess the

829
00:17:45,503 --> 00:17:46,345
trade-offs and the

830
00:17:46,345 --> 00:17:47,480
systemic implications,

831
00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,549
sorry, systemic

832
00:17:48,549 --> 00:17:49,716
implications, and that we don't

833
00:17:49,716 --> 00:17:50,753
lose

834
00:17:50,753 --> 00:17:52,049
service levels, that we don't

835
00:17:52,049 --> 00:17:52,891
inadvertently

836
00:17:52,891 --> 00:17:54,188
impact campuses,

837
00:17:54,188 --> 00:17:55,419
that we don't displace

838
00:17:55,419 --> 00:17:56,488
work, that when we

839
00:17:56,488 --> 00:17:57,460
focus,

840
00:17:57,460 --> 00:17:58,724
particularly on departments,

841
00:17:58,724 --> 00:17:59,696
on, "Hey,

842
00:17:59,696 --> 00:18:00,345
let's not

843
00:18:00,345 --> 00:18:01,479
do this and

844
00:18:01,479 --> 00:18:02,127
let's not

845
00:18:02,127 --> 00:18:03,391
do that," but

846
00:18:03,391 --> 00:18:05,635
maybe we're not being

847
00:18:06,263 --> 00:18:06,946
straightforward enough

848
00:18:06,946 --> 00:18:07,794
to say, "Well, this

849
00:18:07,794 --> 00:18:08,559
work is really

850
00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:09,515
not going anywhere, and

851
00:18:09,515 --> 00:18:10,554
now someone else is going to

852
00:18:10,554 --> 00:18:11,340
take it." And we

853
00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:12,308
feel good about

854
00:18:12,308 --> 00:18:13,304
reaching the numerical

855
00:18:13,304 --> 00:18:14,300
goal, but in reality

856
00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:15,102
we haven't really

857
00:18:15,102 --> 00:18:16,209
solved the problem, we've

858
00:18:16,209 --> 00:18:17,205
just moved the

859
00:18:17,205 --> 00:18:17,924
problem, and we

860
00:18:17,924 --> 00:18:18,478
need to be

861
00:18:18,478 --> 00:18:19,508
aware of that. And

862
00:18:19,508 --> 00:18:20,330
then, ultimately,

863
00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:21,298
taking all these

864
00:18:21,298 --> 00:18:22,442
steps, turning

865
00:18:22,442 --> 00:18:23,351
it into a

866
00:18:23,351 --> 00:18:24,319
departmental proposal, but

867
00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:25,375
actually going

868
00:18:25,375 --> 00:18:26,020
to the cabinet

869
00:18:26,020 --> 00:18:27,738
. And if this

870
00:18:27,738 --> 00:18:28,433
proposal is

871
00:18:28,433 --> 00:18:29,756
responsible not only for

872
00:18:29,756 --> 00:18:30,517
discussing

873
00:18:30,517 --> 00:18:31,312
cuts and

874
00:18:31,312 --> 00:18:32,404
savings, but also for doing

875
00:18:32,404 --> 00:18:33,628
work that impacts,

876
00:18:33,628 --> 00:18:34,620
ahem,

877
00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:35,415
risk reduction, and making

878
00:18:35,415 --> 00:18:36,573
sure that

879
00:18:36,573 --> 00:18:37,433
it doesn't have a

880
00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:38,723
negative impact from

881
00:18:38,723 --> 00:18:39,848
campus to campus,

882
00:18:39,848 --> 00:18:41,073
sorry for closing

883
00:18:41,073 --> 00:18:42,264
some of these things off by

884
00:18:42,264 --> 00:18:45,276
departments. And

885
00:18:45,276 --> 00:18:46,286
then, based on

886
00:18:46,286 --> 00:18:47,127
that review,

887
00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:48,239
coming up with some

888
00:18:48,239 --> 00:18:49,383
final decisions

889
00:18:49,383 --> 00:18:50,292
about where we

890
00:18:50,292 --> 00:18:51,505
move next to

891
00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:52,851
have a better structure

892
00:18:52,851 --> 00:18:53,828
than what we have

893
00:18:53,828 --> 00:18:55,006
today, particularly

894
00:18:55,006 --> 00:18:56,185
with respect to the impact on the

895
00:18:56,185 --> 00:18:57,031
budget.

896
00:18:57,031 --> 00:18:58,174
Scott, can I interrupt you

897
00:18:58,174 --> 00:18:58,836
for a moment

898
00:18:58,836 --> 00:19:00,009
, please

899
00:19:00,009 --> 00:19:00,140
?

900
00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:01,145
Scott is building on

901
00:19:01,145 --> 00:19:02,096
these next few

902
00:19:02,096 --> 00:19:02,857
slides, I want to

903
00:19:02,857 --> 00:19:03,889
point out two things about

904
00:19:03,889 --> 00:19:04,852
this.

905
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:05,982
First, it is the structure of

906
00:19:05,982 --> 00:19:06,767
the efficiency of

907
00:19:06,767 --> 00:19:07,802
centralized

908
00:19:07,802 --> 00:19:08,911
management. One of

909
00:19:08,911 --> 00:19:09,958
the numbers that Norberto

910
00:19:09,958 --> 00:19:10,977
shared with you, and

911
00:19:10,977 --> 00:19:11,821
which he clarified

912
00:19:11,821 --> 00:19:12,897
earlier, was related to the

913
00:19:12,897 --> 00:19:14,131
entire management. As

914
00:19:14,131 --> 00:19:15,226
you may remember McKay

915
00:19:15,226 --> 00:19:16,264
from what we did

916
00:19:16,264 --> 00:19:17,244
a few years ago,

917
00:19:17,244 --> 00:19:18,440
here's a pretty brief one. And

918
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,581
the only reason I'm

919
00:19:19,581 --> 00:19:20,546
saying this is because

920
00:19:20,546 --> 00:19:21,570
God said

921
00:19:21,570 --> 00:19:22,301
something that I need to make sure

922
00:19:22,301 --> 00:19:23,413
everyone

923
00:19:23,413 --> 00:19:24,252
understands. He

924
00:19:24,252 --> 00:19:25,249
noted, "Hey, we don't

925
00:19:25,249 --> 00:19:26,141
want to drop

926
00:19:26,141 --> 00:19:27,111
below a certain level of

927
00:19:27,111 --> 00:19:28,231
service." We'll

928
00:19:28,231 --> 00:19:28,849
have to

929
00:19:28,849 --> 00:19:29,791
consider some

930
00:19:29,791 --> 00:19:30,578
things. When we

931
00:19:30,578 --> 00:19:31,303
talk about

932
00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:32,420
downsizing and changing the

933
00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:33,326
way we do

934
00:19:33,326 --> 00:19:34,231
business, some of

935
00:19:34,231 --> 00:19:35,016
our

936
00:19:35,016 --> 00:19:36,073
service models and, in

937
00:19:36,073 --> 00:19:37,251
fact, some of the services

938
00:19:37,251 --> 00:19:38,458
that we offer as a

939
00:19:38,458 --> 00:19:40,270
central office will have to

940
00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:41,508
change next

941
00:19:41,508 --> 00:19:42,459
year. The second thing I

942
00:19:42,459 --> 00:19:43,503
would like to point out

943
00:19:43,503 --> 00:19:44,634
is that we are talking,

944
00:19:44,634 --> 00:19:45,475
first of all, about

945
00:19:45,475 --> 00:19:46,084
central

946
00:19:46,084 --> 00:19:46,780
management in

947
00:19:46,780 --> 00:19:47,880
departments. And we intend to

948
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,856
act

949
00:19:48,856 --> 00:19:49,589
first and foremost and

950
00:19:49,589 --> 00:19:50,620
feel most at home

951
00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:51,570
in the central

952
00:19:51,570 --> 00:19:52,655
administration.

953
00:19:52,655 --> 00:19:53,663
Any executive

954
00:19:53,663 --> 00:19:54,783
sitting in this

955
00:19:54,783 --> 00:19:55,483
room today will be

956
00:19:55,483 --> 00:19:57,331
shocked by the

957
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,479
cuts

958
00:19:58,479 --> 00:19:59,711
we may

959
00:19:59,739 --> 00:20:00,663
face in our departments. This

960
00:20:00,663 --> 00:20:02,101
applies to each of

961
00:20:02,101 --> 00:20:03,824
us. And that will be here first

962
00:20:03,824 --> 00:20:05,081
, before we

963
00:20:05,081 --> 00:20:05,984
talk about

964
00:20:05,984 --> 00:20:07,296
campuses. And I would like to

965
00:20:07,296 --> 00:20:08,358
start with that,

966
00:20:08,358 --> 00:20:09,505
because we are going to talk

967
00:20:09,505 --> 00:20:10,308
about central

968
00:20:10,308 --> 00:20:11,455
government, but then

969
00:20:11,455 --> 00:20:12,459
we also need to

970
00:20:12,459 --> 00:20:13,262
talk about

971
00:20:13,262 --> 00:20:14,548
campuses. And two of

972
00:20:14,548 --> 00:20:15,523
you mentioned

973
00:20:15,523 --> 00:20:16,598
protecting everything you

974
00:20:16,598 --> 00:20:17,976
can from audiences.

975
00:20:17,976 --> 00:20:19,032
I just need

976
00:20:19,032 --> 00:20:20,063
you to know that we are not

977
00:20:20,063 --> 00:20:21,093
in a

978
00:20:21,093 --> 00:20:22,150
position where you can

979
00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:23,207
say that audiences are

980
00:20:23,207 --> 00:20:24,132
no longer being

981
00:20:24,132 --> 00:20:25,440
influenced. They must

982
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,324
suffer.

983
00:20:28,324 --> 00:20:31,501
Thank you. So, the task

984
00:20:31,501 --> 00:20:32,435
that we would like to

985
00:20:32,435 --> 00:20:33,735
work through, as we

986
00:20:33,735 --> 00:20:34,869
showed you, we

987
00:20:34,869 --> 00:20:36,069
will show this slide again

988
00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:37,369
so you can refer to it

989
00:20:37,369 --> 00:20:39,563
. What

990
00:20:39,563 --> 00:20:40,808
advantages do you see in the

991
00:20:40,808 --> 00:20:41,758
proposed

992
00:20:41,758 --> 00:20:42,716
model? What

993
00:20:42,716 --> 00:20:43,970
concerns might

994
00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:45,291
you have together

995
00:20:45,291 --> 00:20:47,099
as a table? And which ones do you

996
00:20:47,099 --> 00:20:48,313
think are important for

997
00:20:48,313 --> 00:20:49,456
advancing this

998
00:20:49,456 --> 00:20:50,863
process? So,

999
00:20:50,863 --> 00:20:51,453
can you

1000
00:20:51,453 --> 00:20:52,567
turn the slide

1001
00:20:52,567 --> 00:21:03,826
back, Wally? Okay,

1002
00:21:03,826 --> 00:21:04,569
can we

1003
00:21:04,569 --> 00:21:05,931
get everyone back?

1004
00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:07,160
I know it was

1005
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,287
n't long ago. Oh,

1006
00:21:09,287 --> 00:21:34,915
sorry. If you don't

1007
00:21:34,915 --> 00:21:35,934
mind if we

1008
00:21:35,934 --> 00:21:36,712
can start at the

1009
00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:37,489
back table,

1010
00:21:37,489 --> 00:21:38,609
Melody, you got it. That's

1011
00:21:38,609 --> 00:21:39,632
it. So,

1012
00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:40,908
the benefits, advantages,

1013
00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:41,972
concerns, and

1014
00:21:41,972 --> 00:21:43,754
caveats. Uh,

1015
00:21:43,754 --> 00:21:45,130
if I may ask

1016
00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:46,152
this table to start

1017
00:21:46,152 --> 00:21:48,793
first.

1018
00:21:48,793 --> 00:21:50,231
Good. I remember, I

1019
00:21:50,231 --> 00:21:51,595
will intervene because I

1020
00:21:51,595 --> 00:21:52,505
know I could be

1021
00:21:52,505 --> 00:21:53,662
wrong. We

1022
00:21:53,662 --> 00:21:54,665
actually have something to

1023
00:21:54,665 --> 00:21:56,624
say. Overall, we are

1024
00:21:56,624 --> 00:21:57,847
very supportive of this

1025
00:21:57,847 --> 00:21:59,644
structure. One of

1026
00:21:59,644 --> 00:22:00,599
the things we

1027
00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:02,727
talked about in Brooklyn was

1028
00:22:02,758 --> 00:22:03,837
how important it is to have

1029
00:22:03,837 --> 00:22:04,701
cross-departmental

1030
00:22:04,701 --> 00:22:05,934
views watching

1031
00:22:05,934 --> 00:22:06,551
everything that

1032
00:22:06,551 --> 00:22:07,414
happens in a

1033
00:22:07,414 --> 00:22:08,669
particular department. So

1034
00:22:08,669 --> 00:22:09,702
, it shouldn't just be as

1035
00:22:09,702 --> 00:22:10,563
if

1036
00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:11,366
the head of this

1037
00:22:11,366 --> 00:22:12,227
department is making

1038
00:22:12,227 --> 00:22:13,460
decisions in isolation. And

1039
00:22:13,460 --> 00:22:14,600
you can, I

1040
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,874
mean, no matter

1041
00:22:15,874 --> 00:22:17,013
how

1042
00:22:17,013 --> 00:22:17,885
unbiased you are, there's

1043
00:22:17,885 --> 00:22:19,226
bound to be something

1044
00:22:19,226 --> 00:22:21,435
you miss. And

1045
00:22:21,435 --> 00:22:22,223
so when we

1046
00:22:22,223 --> 00:22:23,307
talked about this, I'm

1047
00:22:23,307 --> 00:22:24,587
very grateful that

1048
00:22:24,587 --> 00:22:25,704
feedback

1049
00:22:25,704 --> 00:22:26,689
from

1050
00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:29,645
campus leadership will be invited. And even

1051
00:22:29,645 --> 00:22:30,444
step seven

1052
00:22:30,444 --> 00:22:31,644
says, “Consider

1053
00:22:31,644 --> 00:22:32,689
the impact on campus

1054
00:22:32,689 --> 00:22:33,827
based on feedback from

1055
00:22:33,827 --> 00:22:35,027
campus leadership.”

1056
00:22:35,027 --> 00:22:37,931
We know that the

1057
00:22:37,931 --> 00:22:38,980
campus director will

1058
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:39,898
really make an

1059
00:22:39,898 --> 00:22:40,980
important contribution and

1060
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:43,936
be a facilitator.

1061
00:22:43,936 --> 00:22:45,175
For example, if they

1062
00:22:45,175 --> 00:22:46,447
don't support what

1063
00:22:46,447 --> 00:22:47,262
we're doing to

1064
00:22:47,262 --> 00:22:48,730
improve

1065
00:22:48,762 --> 00:22:49,936
staff effectiveness, it will definitely

1066
00:22:49,936 --> 00:22:51,176
have a domino effect

1067
00:22:51,176 --> 00:22:52,284
and we'll miss out

1068
00:22:52,284 --> 00:22:53,393
because they

1069
00:22:53,393 --> 00:22:54,209
understand well what

1070
00:22:54,209 --> 00:22:55,252
their

1071
00:22:55,252 --> 00:22:56,307
campus needs.

1072
00:22:56,307 --> 00:22:57,828
Right. Thank you.

1073
00:22:57,828 --> 00:22:59,289
I'm sure I'm

1074
00:22:59,289 --> 00:23:01,138
missing something.

1075
00:23:01,138 --> 00:23:02,542
This table?

1076
00:23:02,542 --> 00:23:04,911
Yes, so a lot of what

1077
00:23:04,942 --> 00:23:05,958
Sara or

1078
00:23:05,958 --> 00:23:07,065
Navarro's confidant just shared is exactly what

1079
00:23:07,065 --> 00:23:08,266
we were talking about

1080
00:23:08,266 --> 00:23:09,096
. I would say the

1081
00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:09,851
most important

1082
00:23:09,851 --> 00:23:10,773
takeaway from your

1083
00:23:10,773 --> 00:23:11,696
statement is

1084
00:23:11,696 --> 00:23:12,731
that Dr. Gill

1085
00:23:12,731 --> 00:23:13,793
gave examples of

1086
00:23:13,793 --> 00:23:14,660
when you change

1087
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:15,359
the effectiveness of

1088
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,310
staff, when you

1089
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:17,093
change what it

1090
00:23:17,093 --> 00:23:17,848
looks like in these

1091
00:23:17,848 --> 00:23:19,354
departments. I asked for a

1092
00:23:19,354 --> 00:23:20,547
specific

1093
00:23:20,547 --> 00:23:21,774
example of a situation and

1094
00:23:21,774 --> 00:23:23,682
what it would look like. And

1095
00:23:23,682 --> 00:23:24,894
he said that

1096
00:23:24,894 --> 00:23:26,664
if we cut back on

1097
00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:27,810
staff, it

1098
00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:29,678
would look like they would

1099
00:23:29,711 --> 00:23:30,891
only mow the

1100
00:23:30,891 --> 00:23:31,874
front of the

1101
00:23:31,874 --> 00:23:32,791
school this week and the back

1102
00:23:32,791 --> 00:23:33,840
later, or something like

1103
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,447
that. So I asked that as

1104
00:23:35,447 --> 00:23:36,704
we make

1105
00:23:36,704 --> 00:23:37,510
these decisions and

1106
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:39,282
implement this, it would be

1107
00:23:39,314 --> 00:23:40,539
great for caregivers to know about all of

1108
00:23:40,539 --> 00:23:41,538
these implications so that when we

1109
00:23:41,538 --> 00:23:42,505
answer

1110
00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:43,730
questions in the community,

1111
00:23:43,730 --> 00:23:44,600
we have more to

1112
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,534
say than just

1113
00:23:46,566 --> 00:23:47,694
staff effectiveness, changed

1114
00:23:47,694 --> 00:23:48,918
workload,

1115
00:23:48,918 --> 00:23:50,730
and so on.

1116
00:23:50,730 --> 00:23:58,065
Thank you. No.

1117
00:23:58,065 --> 00:24:37,547
Of course. So thank you.

1118
00:24:37,547 --> 00:24:38,936
Okay, I really appreciate your

1119
00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:39,971
feedback. Mellie,

1120
00:24:39,971 --> 00:24:41,156
can you continue?

1121
00:24:41,156 --> 00:24:42,068
Actually, let

1122
00:24:42,068 --> 00:24:43,011
me introduce myself.

1123
00:24:43,011 --> 00:24:43,920
Sorry if I didn't

1124
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,040
do this sooner.

1125
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,859
Uh, Mellie Lopez, I have

1126
00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:46,554
n't met her before

1127
00:24:46,554 --> 00:24:47,548
, she's our

1128
00:24:47,548 --> 00:24:49,286
Director of

1129
00:24:49,311 --> 00:24:50,404
Customer Service HR. Her group

1130
00:24:50,404 --> 00:24:51,796
is responsible for several

1131
00:24:51,796 --> 00:24:52,937
things: adaptation,

1132
00:24:52,937 --> 00:24:56,355
exit. Her entire

1133
00:24:56,355 --> 00:24:57,563
staff takes care

1134
00:24:57,563 --> 00:24:58,612
of the employees in

1135
00:24:58,612 --> 00:24:59,216
everything that

1136
00:24:59,216 --> 00:25:00,042
happens,

1137
00:25:00,042 --> 00:25:00,837
such as how to

1138
00:25:00,837 --> 00:25:01,663
get my

1139
00:25:01,663 --> 00:25:02,839
grade reports, how to

1140
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:04,206
get

1141
00:25:04,238 --> 00:25:05,160
credit confirmation of my

1142
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,373
employment.

1143
00:25:08,373 --> 00:25:09,198
But she is also

1144
00:25:09,198 --> 00:25:09,992
responsible for the

1145
00:25:09,992 --> 00:25:10,573
number of

1146
00:25:10,573 --> 00:25:11,368
employees in the

1147
00:25:11,368 --> 00:25:12,285
recruitment process

1148
00:25:12,285 --> 00:25:13,621
. So,

1149
00:25:13,621 --> 00:25:14,806
luckily, she's a lot

1150
00:25:14,806 --> 00:25:15,928
smarter than me in

1151
00:25:15,928 --> 00:25:17,020
that regard, and she's

1152
00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:18,080
very good at it

1153
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,193
. And it's a

1154
00:25:19,193 --> 00:25:20,213
balance between being

1155
00:25:20,213 --> 00:25:21,291
good at

1156
00:25:21,291 --> 00:25:22,253
metrics, being good at

1157
00:25:22,253 --> 00:25:23,070
communicating with

1158
00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:23,915
people, and being good at

1159
00:25:23,915 --> 00:25:25,081
getting things done,

1160
00:25:25,081 --> 00:25:25,897
because it's going to be a

1161
00:25:25,897 --> 00:25:27,110
complex process. So

1162
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:28,368
she does

1163
00:25:28,368 --> 00:25:29,886
her job perfectly. So,

1164
00:25:29,886 --> 00:25:30,673
regarding recruiting

1165
00:25:30,673 --> 00:25:31,920
staff at camps,

1166
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,134
we'll talk

1167
00:25:33,134 --> 00:25:34,639
about campuses now. We

1168
00:25:34,639 --> 00:25:35,942
will divide them into three

1169
00:25:35,942 --> 00:25:38,852
groups. We will start,

1170
00:25:38,852 --> 00:25:40,364
in particular, with elementary

1171
00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:43,117
school. So it's important that

1172
00:25:43,149 --> 00:25:44,060
I go over some of these parts quickly

1173
00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:45,255
because I want to

1174
00:25:45,255 --> 00:25:46,355
leave room for

1175
00:25:46,355 --> 00:25:47,612
all of you to

1176
00:25:47,612 --> 00:25:48,779
talk. Some of

1177
00:25:48,779 --> 00:25:49,766
these things are really

1178
00:25:49,766 --> 00:25:50,840
key to our

1179
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,943
conversations moving

1180
00:25:51,943 --> 00:25:52,901
forward and making

1181
00:25:52,901 --> 00:25:54,047
some progress. We are

1182
00:25:54,047 --> 00:25:55,671
all familiar with our

1183
00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:57,249
campus student-to-student ratios during

1184
00:25:57,249 --> 00:25:58,409
the semester or

1185
00:25:59,244 --> 00:26:00,126
staffing ratios, sorry,

1186
00:26:00,126 --> 00:26:00,962
but those were hard

1187
00:26:00,962 --> 00:26:02,083
limits. These were not

1188
00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:03,275
averages as such

1189
00:26:03,275 --> 00:26:04,488
. They are based

1190
00:26:04,488 --> 00:26:05,984
on a state

1191
00:26:06,014 --> 00:26:06,912
regulation that,

1192
00:26:06,912 --> 00:26:07,601
specifically for

1193
00:26:07,601 --> 00:26:08,708
preschool and

1194
00:26:08,708 --> 00:26:09,606
four grades,

1195
00:26:09,606 --> 00:26:10,504
says, "You shall not

1196
00:26:10,504 --> 00:26:11,522
exceed a

1197
00:26:11,522 --> 00:26:12,540
class size limit of 22 to

1198
00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:13,710
one." So, these are not

1199
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:14,921
averages as

1200
00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:16,142
such, they are limitations. And

1201
00:26:16,142 --> 00:26:16,538
we can

1202
00:26:16,538 --> 00:26:17,197
exceed these

1203
00:26:17,197 --> 00:26:17,680
limits with

1204
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,537
waivers, but it's

1205
00:26:18,537 --> 00:26:19,218
still a limit for

1206
00:26:19,218 --> 00:26:20,031
preschool and

1207
00:26:20,031 --> 00:26:20,866
four grades, for

1208
00:26:20,866 --> 00:26:21,678
preschool and

1209
00:26:21,678 --> 00:26:22,445
four grades.

1210
00:26:22,445 --> 00:26:23,532
Fifth and sixth grade,

1211
00:26:23,532 --> 00:26:24,483
and also, I'll talk

1212
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:25,434
more about middle

1213
00:26:25,434 --> 00:26:26,250
school, which are a little

1214
00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:27,201
different, but

1215
00:26:27,201 --> 00:26:28,016
fifth and sixth

1216
00:26:28,016 --> 00:26:28,805
grade will not be

1217
00:26:28,805 --> 00:26:29,702
required by the

1218
00:26:29,702 --> 00:26:30,220
state. These

1219
00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:31,083
ratios for

1220
00:26:31,083 --> 00:26:31,899
fifth and sixth

1221
00:26:31,899 --> 00:26:32,354
grades, we

1222
00:26:32,354 --> 00:26:33,169
use the

1223
00:26:33,169 --> 00:26:34,128
same premise, even though

1224
00:26:34,128 --> 00:26:35,323
it's a district choice. So

1225
00:26:35,323 --> 00:26:36,882
we go to 26 to

1226
00:26:36,882 --> 00:26:38,193
one. The state doesn't hold

1227
00:26:38,193 --> 00:26:39,256
us accountable

1228
00:26:39,256 --> 00:26:40,187
for this, but we still

1229
00:26:40,187 --> 00:26:41,117
treat it the same way

1230
00:26:41,117 --> 00:26:41,835
we

1231
00:26:41,835 --> 00:26:42,899
treat

1232
00:26:42,899 --> 00:26:43,936
preschool and four grades

1233
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:44,786
, which is, the goal is not

1234
00:26:44,786 --> 00:26:45,584
to exceed that

1235
00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:48,067
number. To be honest,

1236
00:26:48,067 --> 00:26:49,257
this process that we've been

1237
00:26:49,257 --> 00:26:50,482
going through throughout

1238
00:26:50,482 --> 00:26:51,230
my

1239
00:26:51,230 --> 00:26:52,522
time here has

1240
00:26:52,522 --> 00:26:53,782
some limitations.

1241
00:26:53,782 --> 00:26:54,940
Some of you may have

1242
00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:55,702
walked around

1243
00:26:55,702 --> 00:26:56,708
campuses during the

1244
00:26:56,708 --> 00:26:57,897
workday and said,

1245
00:26:57,897 --> 00:26:58,934
"It seems like there are

1246
00:26:58,934 --> 00:27:00,031
n't as many

1247
00:27:00,031 --> 00:27:01,547
kids in this class as there are in that one."

1248
00:27:01,547 --> 00:27:02,005
When you

1249
00:27:02,005 --> 00:27:03,281
use this as a

1250
00:27:03,281 --> 00:27:04,493
limit and think

1251
00:27:04,493 --> 00:27:05,409
about the normal

1252
00:27:05,409 --> 00:27:06,064
distribution and the

1253
00:27:06,064 --> 00:27:07,340
bell curve,

1254
00:27:07,340 --> 00:27:08,584
you can understand

1255
00:27:08,584 --> 00:27:09,533
that anything below

1256
00:27:09,533 --> 00:27:10,352
the limit is, by

1257
00:27:10,352 --> 00:27:11,137
definition, to

1258
00:27:11,137 --> 00:27:12,381
the left

1259
00:27:12,381 --> 00:27:13,785
of that number. This

1260
00:27:13,785 --> 00:27:14,946
number is not in the middle,

1261
00:27:14,946 --> 00:27:15,955
it is on the left, which in

1262
00:27:15,955 --> 00:27:16,749
this case

1263
00:27:16,749 --> 00:27:17,543
means fewer

1264
00:27:17,543 --> 00:27:18,552
students in

1265
00:27:18,552 --> 00:27:19,590
that particular

1266
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:20,936
class. So our

1267
00:27:20,936 --> 00:27:22,434
average

1268
00:27:22,469 --> 00:27:24,419
teacher-to-

1269
00:27:24,454 --> 00:27:25,499
staff ratio can

1270
00:27:25,499 --> 00:27:26,753
reduce

1271
00:27:26,753 --> 00:27:27,972
small classes and

1272
00:27:27,972 --> 00:27:29,609
improve

1273
00:27:29,644 --> 00:27:30,759
teacher ratios if we

1274
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:32,013
look at it

1275
00:27:32,013 --> 00:27:33,406
differently, which is, let's

1276
00:27:33,406 --> 00:27:34,451
consider the idea

1277
00:27:34,451 --> 00:27:35,670
of ​​treating the same

1278
00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:36,924
number, 22:1 for

1279
00:27:36,924 --> 00:27:38,317
kindergarten through

1280
00:27:38,317 --> 00:27:39,710
kindergarten and 4th

1281
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:41,069
grade, 26:1 for fifth

1282
00:27:41,069 --> 00:27:42,427
and sixth grade, not

1283
00:27:42,427 --> 00:27:43,576
as a limit, but as

1284
00:27:43,576 --> 00:27:44,412
our

1285
00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:46,259
average. And we'll talk a little

1286
00:27:46,259 --> 00:27:47,348
more

1287
00:27:47,348 --> 00:27:48,596
about what that looks like

1288
00:27:48,596 --> 00:27:49,141
.

1289
00:27:49,141 --> 00:27:50,403
So, yes. Do

1290
00:27:50,403 --> 00:27:51,707
you still remember that

1291
00:27:51,707 --> 00:27:52,903
we used to pay

1292
00:27:52,903 --> 00:27:54,243
teachers for every

1293
00:27:54,243 --> 00:27:55,648
student over the age of 22?

1294
00:27:55,648 --> 00:27:57,011
Yes, I know. Do

1295
00:27:57,011 --> 00:27:57,814
you pay teachers

1296
00:27:57,814 --> 00:27:58,335
for

1297
00:27:58,335 --> 00:27:59,181
preschool and 4th

1298
00:27:59,181 --> 00:27:59,629
grade teachers?

1299
00:27:59,629 --> 00:27:59,998
Yes.

1300
00:27:59,998 --> 00:28:01,394
Oh, yes. Thank you.

1301
00:28:01,394 --> 00:28:02,402
Here are some good

1302
00:28:02,402 --> 00:28:03,808
questions. Thank you. And a

1303
00:28:03,808 --> 00:28:04,954
few scenarios that

1304
00:28:04,954 --> 00:28:05,612
help

1305
00:28:05,612 --> 00:28:06,614
emphasize the point

1306
00:28:06,614 --> 00:28:07,559
I was making a

1307
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:09,705
minute ago. In

1308
00:28:09,705 --> 00:28:10,917
scenario A, and these are

1309
00:28:10,917 --> 00:28:12,297
real examples,

1310
00:28:12,297 --> 00:28:13,885
one class for 30 students,

1311
00:28:13,885 --> 00:28:15,473
meaning you have 30 students

1312
00:28:15,473 --> 00:28:17,885
in the class. You can't

1313
00:28:17,885 --> 00:28:19,654
have 30. We're aiming for

1314
00:28:19,654 --> 00:28:21,259
22:1, right? We have a

1315
00:28:21,259 --> 00:28:22,388
state mandate

1316
00:28:22,388 --> 00:28:23,722
that says 22:1 or

1317
00:28:23,722 --> 00:28:25,135
waive it. And 30 is a

1318
00:28:25,135 --> 00:28:27,637
lot for a

1319
00:28:27,674 --> 00:28:29,137
preschool and 4th grade class. So

1320
00:28:29,137 --> 00:28:30,039
you can't

1321
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:30,901
do that. So you

1322
00:28:30,901 --> 00:28:32,099
share it. So what's

1323
00:28:32,099 --> 00:28:33,234
going on? Well, we have

1324
00:28:33,234 --> 00:28:35,012
15 in the class now.

1325
00:28:35,012 --> 00:28:36,356
So, especially on our

1326
00:28:36,356 --> 00:28:37,701
smaller campuses where there are

1327
00:28:37,701 --> 00:28:38,873
only two sections per

1328
00:28:38,873 --> 00:28:40,149
class, it limits your

1329
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:42,232
choices. And it also

1330
00:28:42,232 --> 00:28:43,287
follows that the

1331
00:28:43,287 --> 00:28:44,407
smaller the campus, the

1332
00:28:44,407 --> 00:28:45,395
fewer the number of

1333
00:28:45,395 --> 00:28:46,417
sections in each

1334
00:28:46,417 --> 00:28:47,570
class, and the more

1335
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:48,361
limitations there are to

1336
00:28:48,361 --> 00:28:49,514
approaching this

1337
00:28:49,514 --> 00:28:51,814
goal. And such examples

1338
00:28:51,814 --> 00:28:53,842
occur often.

1339
00:28:53,842 --> 00:28:55,005
So, here's another

1340
00:28:55,005 --> 00:28:56,433
example. 52 students in

1341
00:28:56,433 --> 00:28:59,870
fourth grade. Well,

1342
00:28:59,870 --> 00:29:01,413
if you divide that by

1343
00:29:01,413 --> 00:29:03,039
two, that would be 26 students

1344
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,547
in the class. So, if you

1345
00:29:04,547 --> 00:29:05,734
then need to

1346
00:29:05,734 --> 00:29:07,303
go to three, you'll

1347
00:29:07,303 --> 00:29:08,956
end up with 17 to 18 students

1348
00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,194
. And again, this...

1349
00:29:10,194 --> 00:29:11,129
Although these are real

1350
00:29:11,129 --> 00:29:12,354
examples, and they are not an

1351
00:29:12,354 --> 00:29:13,376
anomaly. They

1352
00:29:13,376 --> 00:29:14,647
happen often.

1353
00:29:14,647 --> 00:29:15,706
So when we say

1354
00:29:15,706 --> 00:29:16,883
we

1355
00:29:16,912 --> 00:29:18,031
staff according

1356
00:29:18,031 --> 00:29:18,619
to a certain

1357
00:29:18,619 --> 00:29:19,649
ratio, that's

1358
00:29:19,649 --> 00:29:20,473
true, and the end

1359
00:29:20,473 --> 00:29:21,533
result is usually

1360
00:29:21,533 --> 00:29:22,651
much lower than the

1361
00:29:22,651 --> 00:29:24,156
target number. And that's exactly how

1362
00:29:24,156 --> 00:29:25,408
it works

1363
00:29:25,408 --> 00:29:28,508
today. Let's.

1364
00:29:28,508 --> 00:29:29,590
So that's the view, and

1365
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:30,537
thanks to our

1366
00:29:30,537 --> 00:29:31,687
outstanding

1367
00:29:31,687 --> 00:29:32,567
research and

1368
00:29:32,567 --> 00:29:35,858
reporting department. Hmm, they're

1369
00:29:35,858 --> 00:29:36,996
great at giving us

1370
00:29:36,996 --> 00:29:38,167
data, and this is a look at what

1371
00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,239
it looks like

1372
00:29:39,239 --> 00:29:39,955
today and

1373
00:29:39,955 --> 00:29:42,230
historically in our

1374
00:29:42,263 --> 00:29:43,531
student size distribution from

1375
00:29:43,531 --> 00:29:44,604
preschool through

1376
00:29:44,604 --> 00:29:48,791
grade four. And you can

1377
00:29:48,791 --> 00:29:50,117
see that you have

1378
00:29:50,117 --> 00:29:51,477
tails here in terms of the

1379
00:29:51,477 --> 00:29:52,599
number of kids in the

1380
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,587
class, and also here.

1381
00:29:55,587 --> 00:29:57,337
If you take four, and the

1382
00:29:57,337 --> 00:29:58,851
average

1383
00:29:58,851 --> 00:30:01,290
is 17.4. So it's

1384
00:30:01,290 --> 00:30:02,914
not 22, it's 17. If you

1385
00:30:02,914 --> 00:30:04,027
go to the

1386
00:30:04,027 --> 00:30:05,882
next slide, we

1387
00:30:05,882 --> 00:30:07,599
would like to get 22.

1388
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,176
So we said we

1389
00:30:09,176 --> 00:30:09,779
would

1390
00:30:09,779 --> 00:30:11,495
use 22 in the

1391
00:30:11,495 --> 00:30:14,235
past.

1392
00:30:14,235 --> 00:30:15,634
The formula just doesn't work the way

1393
00:30:15,634 --> 00:30:17,033
we practice it

1394
00:30:17,033 --> 00:30:18,396
, and I practiced it over

1395
00:30:18,396 --> 00:30:21,121
time. By changing it

1396
00:30:21,121 --> 00:30:22,121
from

1397
00:30:22,121 --> 00:30:23,059
being a limit to a

1398
00:30:23,059 --> 00:30:24,059
true

1399
00:30:24,059 --> 00:30:25,184
mean, you can

1400
00:30:25,184 --> 00:30:26,247
see a much

1401
00:30:26,247 --> 00:30:27,434
more balanced

1402
00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:29,454
distribution. However, we

1403
00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:30,584
also believe that

1404
00:30:30,584 --> 00:30:31,780
if you're doing something

1405
00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:32,809
like this, it's important

1406
00:30:32,809 --> 00:30:33,872
to make a conscious

1407
00:30:33,872 --> 00:30:34,603
choice that we're

1408
00:30:34,603 --> 00:30:35,301
going to

1409
00:30:35,301 --> 00:30:36,596
set limits

1410
00:30:36,596 --> 00:30:37,713
. We don't want to

1411
00:30:37,713 --> 00:30:39,032
get what you might

1412
00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:40,046
call a flat

1413
00:30:40,046 --> 00:30:41,195
distribution and have a

1414
00:30:41,195 --> 00:30:42,345
bunch that comes out

1415
00:30:42,345 --> 00:30:43,697
here and you have too many

1416
00:30:43,697 --> 00:30:45,249
kids in the classroom. This is not

1417
00:30:45,249 --> 00:30:46,747
normal. It's not good

1418
00:30:46,747 --> 00:30:47,627
for teachers and it's

1419
00:30:47,627 --> 00:30:49,156
not good for children.

1420
00:30:49,156 --> 00:30:50,478
So, we are talking about

1421
00:30:50,478 --> 00:30:51,700
improvement, but

1422
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:52,717
we would have a

1423
00:30:52,717 --> 00:30:54,040
governor, and that would have

1424
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,975
limitations. And

1425
00:30:54,975 --> 00:30:56,127
usually we're talking

1426
00:30:56,127 --> 00:30:57,220
about a district where the

1427
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:58,313
education level is about

1428
00:30:58,313 --> 00:30:59,406
three points above average

1429
00:30:59,406 --> 00:31:02,300
. Let's.

1430
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:03,523
So there are two ways to

1431
00:31:03,523 --> 00:31:04,921
do it, wait

1432
00:31:04,921 --> 00:31:05,899
a minute, but there is a

1433
00:31:05,899 --> 00:31:07,351
state mandate.

1434
00:31:07,351 --> 00:31:09,460
One of them is the

1435
00:31:09,494 --> 00:31:10,786
innovation district exemption, which

1436
00:31:10,786 --> 00:31:11,637
says, "We

1437
00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:12,997
exempt ourselves, if

1438
00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:14,086
this is approved,

1439
00:31:14,086 --> 00:31:14,868
of course, we

1440
00:31:14,868 --> 00:31:16,127
exempt ourselves from

1441
00:31:16,127 --> 00:31:17,384
this 22-to-1 requirement."

1442
00:31:17,384 --> 00:31:18,271
Remember, anything

1443
00:31:18,271 --> 00:31:19,184
beyond the requirement

1444
00:31:19,184 --> 00:31:20,146
from preschool

1445
00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:21,132
to 4th grade is, sorry,

1446
00:31:21,132 --> 00:31:21,798
not state

1447
00:31:21,798 --> 00:31:22,820
mandated. You will not

1448
00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:23,429
need to

1449
00:31:23,429 --> 00:31:24,365
receive a

1450
00:31:24,365 --> 00:31:25,231
district innovation, but you do

1451
00:31:25,231 --> 00:31:25,793
need one for

1452
00:31:25,793 --> 00:31:26,706
preschool through 4th

1453
00:31:26,706 --> 00:31:27,883
grade. This will give us

1454
00:31:27,883 --> 00:31:28,859
continued local

1455
00:31:28,859 --> 00:31:29,783
flexibility. We will

1456
00:31:29,783 --> 00:31:30,963
have to do

1457
00:31:30,963 --> 00:31:32,318
fewer waivers because it will

1458
00:31:32,318 --> 00:31:33,707
already be established

1459
00:31:33,707 --> 00:31:35,061
that we are not limited to this

1460
00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:35,790
particular

1461
00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:37,908
22 to 1 standard.

1462
00:31:37,943 --> 00:31:39,089
Class size expectations at the

1463
00:31:39,089 --> 00:31:40,131
local level are

1464
00:31:40,131 --> 00:31:41,172
much more

1465
00:31:41,172 --> 00:31:42,110
controlled

1466
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:43,325
by the district, which gives us

1467
00:31:43,325 --> 00:31:44,645
the authority to do

1468
00:31:44,645 --> 00:31:46,763
this. Here, if we didn't

1469
00:31:46,763 --> 00:31:47,761
continue to

1470
00:31:47,761 --> 00:31:50,056
do this or if it

1471
00:31:50,089 --> 00:31:51,287
wasn't successful on DOI for some reason,

1472
00:31:51,287 --> 00:31:52,384
we would continue

1473
00:31:52,384 --> 00:31:53,416
to use

1474
00:31:53,416 --> 00:31:54,414
waivers, although we

1475
00:31:54,414 --> 00:31:55,611
do it today,

1476
00:31:55,611 --> 00:31:56,742
we would be doing significantly

1477
00:31:56,742 --> 00:31:57,873
more than we have been doing

1478
00:31:57,873 --> 00:31:59,662
so far. There is no guarantee

1479
00:31:59,662 --> 00:32:00,800
how many students will be

1480
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,710
approved or not,

1481
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:02,718
especially if we

1482
00:32:02,718 --> 00:32:03,888
start doing this on a

1483
00:32:03,888 --> 00:32:04,928
much larger

1484
00:32:04,928 --> 00:32:05,719
scale. This is

1485
00:32:05,719 --> 00:32:06,923
uncertain. It's

1486
00:32:06,923 --> 00:32:08,126
just a potential

1487
00:32:08,126 --> 00:32:09,514
risk. Um, and those

1488
00:32:09,514 --> 00:32:10,700
state restrictions

1489
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,203
remain in effect

1490
00:32:12,203 --> 00:32:13,924
without a DOI. So now you're

1491
00:32:13,924 --> 00:32:14,638
trying to get

1492
00:32:14,638 --> 00:32:15,663
yourself fired

1493
00:32:15,663 --> 00:32:16,749
through the system,

1494
00:32:16,749 --> 00:32:17,836
making waivers after

1495
00:32:17,836 --> 00:32:19,078
waivers, as opposed to

1496
00:32:19,078 --> 00:32:20,103
having the

1497
00:32:20,103 --> 00:32:21,220
broader authority

1498
00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:22,369
to say, "No, we have a

1499
00:32:22,369 --> 00:32:23,643
deal with the state. Here's

1500
00:32:23,643 --> 00:32:24,849
how it works. We

1501
00:32:24,849 --> 00:32:26,388
do this through DOI.”

1502
00:32:26,388 --> 00:32:28,583
Let's. So,

1503
00:32:28,583 --> 00:32:29,692
let's talk

1504
00:32:29,692 --> 00:32:30,862
about high school for a

1505
00:32:30,862 --> 00:32:33,265
second. So the

1506
00:32:33,294 --> 00:32:34,172
middle school staffing model

1507
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:35,167
is different from

1508
00:32:35,167 --> 00:32:36,308
elementary school because in

1509
00:32:36,308 --> 00:32:37,420
elementary school, the way

1510
00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:38,590
it's distributed, you

1511
00:32:38,590 --> 00:32:39,643
can do it by

1512
00:32:39,643 --> 00:32:41,121
grade level. In

1513
00:32:41,121 --> 00:32:42,167
high school, and

1514
00:32:42,167 --> 00:32:42,886
Melody

1515
00:32:42,886 --> 00:32:43,933
will correct me if I

1516
00:32:43,933 --> 00:32:47,254
get off track. In

1517
00:32:47,254 --> 00:32:48,339
high school, we

1518
00:32:48,339 --> 00:32:49,161
allocate

1519
00:32:49,161 --> 00:32:50,311
student numbers

1520
00:32:50,311 --> 00:32:51,363
based on the total

1521
00:32:51,363 --> 00:32:53,434
number of students, because

1522
00:32:53,466 --> 00:32:54,683
high school principals have

1523
00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:55,406
autonomy and

1524
00:32:55,406 --> 00:32:56,688
need autonomy

1525
00:32:56,688 --> 00:32:57,674
, frankly, with

1526
00:32:57,674 --> 00:32:58,956
different programs

1527
00:32:58,956 --> 00:32:59,843
they have particularly

1528
00:32:59,843 --> 00:33:01,026
small classes to

1529
00:33:01,026 --> 00:33:02,341
meet the needs of

1530
00:33:02,341 --> 00:33:03,656
that program, and then of

1531
00:33:03,656 --> 00:33:04,806
course you have

1532
00:33:04,806 --> 00:33:05,990
larger

1533
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:06,614
classes here to

1534
00:33:06,614 --> 00:33:07,929
balance that out,

1535
00:33:07,929 --> 00:33:09,145
because you have a fixed

1536
00:33:09,145 --> 00:33:10,164
number of students

1537
00:33:10,164 --> 00:33:10,920
proportional to the

1538
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,169
total number of

1539
00:33:12,169 --> 00:33:15,014
students on campus. I

1540
00:33:15,014 --> 00:33:15,962
know that was a

1541
00:33:15,962 --> 00:33:17,206
difficult thing to say, but I

1542
00:33:17,206 --> 00:33:18,253
hope it made

1543
00:33:18,253 --> 00:33:19,549
sense. So, we

1544
00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:21,169
staff our

1545
00:33:21,169 --> 00:33:22,384
junior high

1546
00:33:22,384 --> 00:33:25,017
schools with a total

1547
00:33:25,057 --> 00:33:26,475
student-to-

1548
00:33:26,475 --> 00:33:28,054
campus population ratio of 26 to 1. So, 26

1549
00:33:28,054 --> 00:33:29,368
to 1 teacher. Our

1550
00:33:29,368 --> 00:33:30,301
high schools

1551
00:33:30,301 --> 00:33:31,450
are staffed at a

1552
00:33:31,450 --> 00:33:32,849
29 to 1

1553
00:33:32,849 --> 00:33:33,745
teacher ratio. Although,

1554
00:33:33,745 --> 00:33:34,774
of course, based on the

1555
00:33:34,774 --> 00:33:35,547
explanation I

1556
00:33:35,547 --> 00:33:36,473
just gave you, that doesn't

1557
00:33:36,473 --> 00:33:37,297
mean that every

1558
00:33:37,297 --> 00:33:38,326
class is staffed

1559
00:33:38,326 --> 00:33:39,356
at a 26 to

1560
00:33:39,356 --> 00:33:40,231
1 ratio. It doesn't mean that

1561
00:33:40,231 --> 00:33:41,235
everyone is at a

1562
00:33:41,235 --> 00:33:42,136
29 to 1 ratio. And we also don't

1563
00:33:42,136 --> 00:33:43,114
dictate that for every

1564
00:33:43,114 --> 00:33:43,783
English or

1565
00:33:43,783 --> 00:33:44,529
algebra or anything

1566
00:33:44,529 --> 00:33:45,877
like that. The director has

1567
00:33:45,877 --> 00:33:47,519
this autonomy. Um, and that

1568
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:48,229
doesn't take into account

1569
00:33:48,229 --> 00:33:49,166
specialized

1570
00:33:49,166 --> 00:33:49,973
programs that

1571
00:33:49,973 --> 00:33:51,168
affect

1572
00:33:51,168 --> 00:33:52,812
class size. So

1573
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:53,541
there is no

1574
00:33:53,541 --> 00:33:54,614
relief for specialized programs. The

1575
00:33:54,614 --> 00:33:55,099
principal

1576
00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:56,071
is using his

1577
00:33:56,071 --> 00:33:56,842
autonomy to

1578
00:33:56,842 --> 00:33:57,671
figure out how to

1579
00:33:57,671 --> 00:33:58,614
do this while

1580
00:33:58,614 --> 00:33:59,614
making some of the other

1581
00:33:59,614 --> 00:34:00,642
classes larger than the

1582
00:34:00,642 --> 00:34:01,785
specialized

1583
00:34:01,785 --> 00:34:02,814
program class, which will be

1584
00:34:02,814 --> 00:34:04,625
very small. And

1585
00:34:04,625 --> 00:34:05,759
let's move on

1586
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,093
. So, what does

1587
00:34:08,093 --> 00:34:08,912
our

1588
00:34:08,912 --> 00:34:10,073
distribution look like today

1589
00:34:10,073 --> 00:34:13,356
for the junior high school?

1590
00:34:13,356 --> 00:34:14,613
Well, remember, if

1591
00:34:14,613 --> 00:34:15,905
we look at the target

1592
00:34:15,905 --> 00:34:18,612
for the junior high school

1593
00:34:18,612 --> 00:34:19,951
26 by

1594
00:34:19,951 --> 00:34:21,366
26, that means our

1595
00:34:21,366 --> 00:34:22,782
average,

1596
00:34:22,782 --> 00:34:23,811
our

1597
00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:25,160
median.

1598
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,830
Well, considering that the

1599
00:34:26,830 --> 00:34:28,166
average is

1600
00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:29,836
actually 23.

1601
00:34:29,836 --> 00:34:31,464
And you have some up to 35, and

1602
00:34:31,464 --> 00:34:32,675
you'll literally have

1603
00:34:32,675 --> 00:34:34,053
some as

1604
00:34:34,053 --> 00:34:36,474
small as how many?

1605
00:34:36,474 --> 00:34:37,686
And it will vary

1606
00:34:37,686 --> 00:34:38,353
depending on

1607
00:34:38,353 --> 00:34:39,293
specialized

1608
00:34:39,293 --> 00:34:40,846
programs, things like that.

1609
00:34:40,846 --> 00:34:43,473
If you take it to the

1610
00:34:43,473 --> 00:34:44,373
next level and

1611
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:45,349
say, "Well, if we

1612
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:46,172
use the

1613
00:34:46,172 --> 00:34:47,046
same principle

1614
00:34:47,046 --> 00:34:47,920
we talked about in

1615
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,948
elementary school to

1616
00:34:48,948 --> 00:34:49,950
look at this like, we

1617
00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:50,284
want

1618
00:34:50,284 --> 00:34:51,030
to

1619
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:51,595
staff to the

1620
00:34:51,595 --> 00:34:52,572
mean

1621
00:34:52,572 --> 00:34:53,420
or to the

1622
00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:54,089
median, rather than

1623
00:34:54,089 --> 00:34:55,014
using this

1624
00:34:55,014 --> 00:34:55,862
as what we have and

1625
00:34:55,862 --> 00:34:56,813
using it as

1626
00:34:56,813 --> 00:34:57,839
intended as a limit."

1627
00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:58,413
Or then we

1628
00:34:58,413 --> 00:34:59,205
use a

1629
00:34:59,205 --> 00:35:00,208
waiver of claims.

1630
00:35:00,208 --> 00:35:01,600
If we apply this

1631
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,636
different approach to

1632
00:35:02,636 --> 00:35:03,992
elementary school,

1633
00:35:03,992 --> 00:35:05,314
we actually get an

1634
00:35:05,314 --> 00:35:06,635
average of 26

1635
00:35:06,635 --> 00:35:07,913
students per class. If

1636
00:35:07,913 --> 00:35:08,517
you compare the

1637
00:35:08,517 --> 00:35:09,787
student-

1638
00:35:09,787 --> 00:35:10,708
to-staff ratio across the

1639
00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:11,787
campus, then

1640
00:35:11,787 --> 00:35:13,026
again, cut it

1641
00:35:13,026 --> 00:35:13,947
and say, "I'm not

1642
00:35:13,947 --> 00:35:15,185
going to...I'm going to

1643
00:35:15,185 --> 00:35:16,360
put in some

1644
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,286
controls." I won't

1645
00:35:17,286 --> 00:35:18,372
let this grow more than a

1646
00:35:18,372 --> 00:35:19,374
little more than

1647
00:35:19,374 --> 00:35:20,126
three students above the

1648
00:35:20,126 --> 00:35:21,212
average,

1649
00:35:21,212 --> 00:35:22,158
lest we end up with

1650
00:35:22,158 --> 00:35:23,160
class sizes that are

1651
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,191
simply not appropriate

1652
00:35:24,191 --> 00:35:25,109
or

1653
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:30,002
manageable. Let's.

1654
00:35:30,002 --> 00:35:30,958
So, the

1655
00:35:30,958 --> 00:35:31,914
high school program, the

1656
00:35:31,914 --> 00:35:33,260
special cases, you

1657
00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:34,641
can see whether it's IB

1658
00:35:34,641 --> 00:35:35,845
, AP or Smart programs, the

1659
00:35:35,845 --> 00:35:37,191
nature of these courses,

1660
00:35:37,191 --> 00:35:38,536
and each of them is valuable,

1661
00:35:38,536 --> 00:35:39,634
but the nature of these

1662
00:35:39,634 --> 00:35:40,272
courses by

1663
00:35:40,272 --> 00:35:41,653
definition, through

1664
00:35:41,653 --> 00:35:44,167
experience, is that there are a

1665
00:35:44,203 --> 00:35:45,407
lot of

1666
00:35:45,407 --> 00:35:48,219
kids in these classes. And that doesn't mean

1667
00:35:48,219 --> 00:35:49,596
they aren't valuable. This does

1668
00:35:49,596 --> 00:35:50,874
not mean that they are not

1669
00:35:50,874 --> 00:35:51,739
important. That doesn't

1670
00:35:51,739 --> 00:35:52,626
mean we

1671
00:35:52,626 --> 00:35:53,770
shouldn't do it,

1672
00:35:53,770 --> 00:35:54,857
but it does mean we

1673
00:35:54,857 --> 00:35:55,772
need to understand the

1674
00:35:55,772 --> 00:35:56,744
broader perspective

1675
00:35:56,744 --> 00:35:57,888
of how it impacts

1676
00:35:57,888 --> 00:35:59,939
our ability

1677
00:36:00,472 --> 00:36:01,399
to

1678
00:36:01,399 --> 00:36:02,382
staff effectively, because for

1679
00:36:02,382 --> 00:36:03,393
every small

1680
00:36:03,393 --> 00:36:04,488
class you have, you have to

1681
00:36:04,488 --> 00:36:05,219
have a much

1682
00:36:05,219 --> 00:36:06,314
larger class somewhere else to

1683
00:36:06,314 --> 00:36:07,381
balance out

1684
00:36:07,381 --> 00:36:09,179
how you approach

1685
00:36:09,207 --> 00:36:12,875
staffing. Let's.

1686
00:36:12,875 --> 00:36:14,014
Okay, I said when I

1687
00:36:14,014 --> 00:36:15,214
started studying this that there were three sections in

1688
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:16,384
this elementary school

1689
00:36:16,384 --> 00:36:17,524
and it

1690
00:36:17,524 --> 00:36:18,543
was cyclical, but

1691
00:36:18,543 --> 00:36:19,293
fine

1692
00:36:19,293 --> 00:36:20,343
arts and

1693
00:36:20,343 --> 00:36:21,513
athletics are actually the

1694
00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:22,443
third spoke in

1695
00:36:22,443 --> 00:36:24,617
that wheel. And if

1696
00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:25,527
you go further,

1697
00:36:25,527 --> 00:36:26,340
fine

1698
00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:27,121
art and

1699
00:36:27,121 --> 00:36:28,259
correlation, it's

1700
00:36:28,259 --> 00:36:29,463
just a whole different

1701
00:36:29,463 --> 00:36:31,414
element of the

1702
00:36:31,447 --> 00:36:34,749
staffing process. So if

1703
00:36:34,749 --> 00:36:35,813
you look, we've

1704
00:36:35,813 --> 00:36:37,142
talked about classes up until

1705
00:36:37,142 --> 00:36:38,549
this point. So I'm going

1706
00:36:38,549 --> 00:36:40,972
to change direction a little bit.

1707
00:36:40,972 --> 00:36:41,458
Instead of

1708
00:36:41,458 --> 00:36:42,400
the ratio of the

1709
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,471
number of students in a

1710
00:36:43,471 --> 00:36:44,445
class as they

1711
00:36:44,445 --> 00:36:45,678
go through elementary

1712
00:36:45,678 --> 00:36:46,717
school, for example, a

1713
00:36:46,717 --> 00:36:47,658
grade school class and

1714
00:36:47,658 --> 00:36:48,794
Melody, help

1715
00:36:48,794 --> 00:36:49,736
me if I'm

1716
00:36:49,736 --> 00:36:50,872
off track here, this is the

1717
00:36:50,872 --> 00:36:51,943
workload that a

1718
00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:53,209
teacher has to have

1719
00:36:53,209 --> 00:36:54,410
comprehensively in their

1720
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:56,621
schedule. This is not per

1721
00:36:56,621 --> 00:37:00,148
class or per section.

1722
00:37:00,148 --> 00:37:01,422
So, ideally, to

1723
00:37:01,422 --> 00:37:03,895
achieve our goals, a

1724
00:37:03,932 --> 00:37:05,169
middle

1725
00:37:05,169 --> 00:37:06,330
school or high

1726
00:37:06,330 --> 00:37:07,792
school choir and drama teacher would have these

1727
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:09,178
26 students, in reality

1728
00:37:09,178 --> 00:37:10,527
they would have a

1729
00:37:10,527 --> 00:37:11,689
full

1730
00:37:11,689 --> 00:37:13,113
workload, they would be

1731
00:37:13,113 --> 00:37:14,574
taking care of 156 students

1732
00:37:14,574 --> 00:37:19,464
. In fact, today it is

1733
00:37:19,464 --> 00:37:21,279
78 and 58, these are separate

1734
00:37:21,279 --> 00:37:25,386
programs. In fact,

1735
00:37:25,386 --> 00:37:26,656
in a high

1736
00:37:26,656 --> 00:37:27,889
school today, based on an

1737
00:37:27,889 --> 00:37:29,195
average

1738
00:37:29,195 --> 00:37:30,610
class size of 29 students across the entire

1739
00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:32,859
campus, their

1740
00:37:33,947 --> 00:37:35,253
art teacher workload throughout the

1741
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:37,539
entire schedule, they would be

1742
00:37:37,575 --> 00:37:39,026
taking care of

1743
00:37:39,026 --> 00:37:40,151
174 students in a single day or week

1744
00:37:40,151 --> 00:37:44,599
. But based

1745
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:45,928
on how it's

1746
00:37:45,928 --> 00:37:48,067
managed today,

1747
00:37:48,067 --> 00:37:50,090
it's 91,125, and this chorus is 229,

1748
00:37:50,090 --> 00:37:52,040
but it's 229 by three.

1749
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,872
So you do

1750
00:37:52,872 --> 00:37:54,031
the math and divide

1751
00:37:54,031 --> 00:37:55,071
that and it still doesn't

1752
00:37:55,071 --> 00:37:55,796
equal 174.

1753
00:37:55,796 --> 00:37:56,698
Again, I'm saying

1754
00:37:56,698 --> 00:37:57,625
someone is doing something

1755
00:37:57,625 --> 00:37:58,408
wrong? I

1756
00:37:58,408 --> 00:37:59,908
absolutely do not. Am I saying

1757
00:37:59,908 --> 00:38:00,957
these programs are not

1758
00:38:00,957 --> 00:38:01,782
appreciated? I'm

1759
00:38:01,782 --> 00:38:02,982
absolutely not

1760
00:38:02,982 --> 00:38:05,914
saying that. I'm just

1761
00:38:05,914 --> 00:38:07,082
bringing to the surface

1762
00:38:07,082 --> 00:38:08,061
the areas where they're

1763
00:38:08,061 --> 00:38:09,292
creating attraction

1764
00:38:09,292 --> 00:38:10,208
, as opposed to the

1765
00:38:10,208 --> 00:38:11,376
simplistic, "Well, we

1766
00:38:11,376 --> 00:38:12,608
just need to have a

1767
00:38:12,608 --> 00:38:13,871
certain ratio

1768
00:38:13,871 --> 00:38:15,070
or proportion,"

1769
00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:16,239
because in those areas they're

1770
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,312
attracting more

1771
00:38:17,312 --> 00:38:18,070
staff, and by

1772
00:38:18,070 --> 00:38:19,144
attracting more

1773
00:38:19,144 --> 00:38:19,996
staff, you

1774
00:38:19,996 --> 00:38:21,259
have to fill in

1775
00:38:21,259 --> 00:38:28,227
somewhere else. Let's. So,

1776
00:38:28,227 --> 00:38:29,321
examples, it was

1777
00:38:29,321 --> 00:38:30,176
fine

1778
00:38:30,176 --> 00:38:31,543
art. There is a similar

1779
00:38:31,543 --> 00:38:32,503
message here with

1780
00:38:32,503 --> 00:38:34,133
athletics. But

1781
00:38:34,133 --> 00:38:35,343
whether

1782
00:38:35,343 --> 00:38:36,486
we're talking about

1783
00:38:36,486 --> 00:38:37,763
current practices, or

1784
00:38:37,763 --> 00:38:39,108
campus proportions, or

1785
00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:40,419
scheduling tensions, I'll

1786
00:38:40,419 --> 00:38:41,360
just try to

1787
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,638
get to the point, which,

1788
00:38:42,638 --> 00:38:43,680
at least in my

1789
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,025
opinion, is

1790
00:38:45,025 --> 00:38:48,671
that campus size is

1791
00:38:48,703 --> 00:38:49,846
irrelevant to how

1792
00:38:49,846 --> 00:38:50,163
we

1793
00:38:50,163 --> 00:38:51,147
staff

1794
00:38:51,147 --> 00:38:52,467
athletic departments right now.

1795
00:38:52,467 --> 00:38:56,179
Rightly? And the

1796
00:38:56,179 --> 00:38:57,305
good news with that is that

1797
00:38:57,305 --> 00:38:58,527
we

1798
00:38:58,527 --> 00:38:59,781
can say that we

1799
00:38:59,781 --> 00:39:00,907
offer the same

1800
00:39:00,907 --> 00:39:02,064
programs and the same

1801
00:39:02,064 --> 00:39:03,222
teams and all that

1802
00:39:03,222 --> 00:39:04,091
because we have a

1803
00:39:04,091 --> 00:39:05,377
minimum number of

1804
00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:06,599
coaches on each of

1805
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,270
our campuses. But

1806
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:10,105
our campuses,

1807
00:39:10,105 --> 00:39:11,340
especially in high

1808
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:12,541
schools, they are strikingly

1809
00:39:12,541 --> 00:39:16,653
different. So,

1810
00:39:16,653 --> 00:39:17,946
if you are on a

1811
00:39:17,946 --> 00:39:19,077
smaller campus and

1812
00:39:19,077 --> 00:39:20,143
need to have

1813
00:39:20,143 --> 00:39:21,145
at least the same

1814
00:39:21,145 --> 00:39:22,341
number of instructors

1815
00:39:22,341 --> 00:39:23,149
as a large,

1816
00:39:23,149 --> 00:39:24,442
mid-sized campus,

1817
00:39:24,442 --> 00:39:25,702
you will be left with less

1818
00:39:25,702 --> 00:39:26,995
staff for everything

1819
00:39:26,995 --> 00:39:31,222
from ELAR to algebra. And

1820
00:39:31,222 --> 00:39:32,760
this is one of the problems that

1821
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,721
exists here. Let's.

1822
00:39:36,721 --> 00:39:38,033
So I want to try to

1823
00:39:38,033 --> 00:39:39,116
get right to

1824
00:39:39,116 --> 00:39:40,733
it. We posted

1825
00:39:40,733 --> 00:39:41,721
this second column

1826
00:39:41,721 --> 00:39:42,832
because you will have the

1827
00:39:42,832 --> 00:39:43,820
opportunity

1828
00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:47,481
to talk again. What is our

1829
00:39:47,481 --> 00:39:48,743
current limit that

1830
00:39:48,743 --> 00:39:49,805
we practice and

1831
00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:50,735
what is the actual

1832
00:39:50,735 --> 00:39:51,864
average

1833
00:39:51,864 --> 00:39:52,827
today, um,

1834
00:39:52,827 --> 00:39:53,790
based on data and

1835
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:57,377
experience. So, with that

1836
00:39:57,377 --> 00:39:58,606
in mind, what do

1837
00:39:58,606 --> 00:39:59,835
you think the

1838
00:39:59,835 --> 00:40:01,031
ideal average

1839
00:40:01,031 --> 00:40:02,027
and maximum

1840
00:40:02,027 --> 00:40:03,057
class size should be for the

1841
00:40:03,057 --> 00:40:04,783
following classes? What

1842
00:40:04,783 --> 00:40:05,705
concerns or

1843
00:40:05,705 --> 00:40:06,658
unintended

1844
00:40:06,658 --> 00:40:07,673
consequences should we

1845
00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:08,841
consider if we

1846
00:40:08,841 --> 00:40:09,486
consider

1847
00:40:09,486 --> 00:40:10,655
making

1848
00:40:10,655 --> 00:40:11,810
such changes? What

1849
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:12,801
implementations or

1850
00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:13,958
protective barriers do

1851
00:40:13,958 --> 00:40:14,752
you think are

1852
00:40:14,752 --> 00:40:16,185
important? And do

1853
00:40:16,185 --> 00:40:16,880
you have any thoughts or

1854
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,907
recommendations on the

1855
00:40:17,907 --> 00:40:19,055
revised standards

1856
00:40:19,055 --> 00:40:19,841
for

1857
00:40:19,841 --> 00:40:20,717
fine

1858
00:40:20,717 --> 00:40:22,032
arts and sports personnel?

1859
00:40:22,032 --> 00:40:22,979
And I didn't really

1860
00:40:22,979 --> 00:40:23,959
give you any clear

1861
00:40:23,959 --> 00:40:25,156
recommendations. I gave

1862
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:26,572
you more of a

1863
00:40:26,602 --> 00:40:27,815
problem statement. But do

1864
00:40:27,815 --> 00:40:29,027
you have any suggestions on what to

1865
00:40:29,027 --> 00:40:30,272
do if

1866
00:40:30,272 --> 00:40:31,255
something is related to

1867
00:40:31,255 --> 00:40:32,381
this? So, that gives

1868
00:40:32,381 --> 00:40:33,501
you an idea of ​​where

1869
00:40:33,501 --> 00:40:34,469
we

1870
00:40:34,469 --> 00:40:35,776
are at. These are our

1871
00:40:35,776 --> 00:40:37,162
questions, and I would

1872
00:40:37,162 --> 00:40:38,549
greatly appreciate

1873
00:40:38,549 --> 00:40:39,898
any feedback you

1874
00:40:39,898 --> 00:40:41,321
can offer

1875
00:40:41,321 --> 00:40:42,707
, perhaps in short

1876
00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:43,683
minutes.

1877
00:40:43,683 --> 00:40:45,253
I have a recommendation.

1878
00:40:45,253 --> 00:40:46,218
Can

1879
00:40:46,218 --> 00:40:48,472
we start with 50?

1880
00:40:48,472 --> 00:40:49,560
Can we start with

1881
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,012
this?

1882
00:40:50,012 --> 00:40:51,440
I don't know, I think

1883
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,869
it's really a creation

1884
00:40:52,869 --> 00:40:53,534
...

1885
00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:57,203
We drink.

1886
00:40:57,203 --> 00:41:00,504
I know. We, we, we

1887
00:41:00,504 --> 00:41:01,670
just want to... We

1888
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:03,047
want to start by saying that

1889
00:41:03,047 --> 00:41:04,319
we appreciate the way

1890
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:05,273
you guys

1891
00:41:05,273 --> 00:41:06,191
have articulated everything,

1892
00:41:06,191 --> 00:41:07,498
especially on the second

1893
00:41:07,498 --> 00:41:08,875
level of variation, how

1894
00:41:08,875 --> 00:41:10,147
nuanced it is, um, and that

1895
00:41:10,147 --> 00:41:11,277
yes, the limits and the

1896
00:41:11,277 --> 00:41:12,478
averages

1897
00:41:12,478 --> 00:41:13,785
go up, and then

1898
00:41:13,785 --> 00:41:14,562
you have all these

1899
00:41:14,562 --> 00:41:15,940
specialized courses

1900
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:16,964
, and then you have

1901
00:41:16,964 --> 00:41:18,342
fire, and you have... So

1902
00:41:18,342 --> 00:41:19,755
we really appreciate the way

1903
00:41:19,755 --> 00:41:21,132
you guys have articulated this for us

1904
00:41:21,132 --> 00:41:24,036
. Um, I'm

1905
00:41:24,036 --> 00:41:25,410
thinking about preschool

1906
00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:26,784
and fourth grade

1907
00:41:26,784 --> 00:41:27,912
, going back to

1908
00:41:27,912 --> 00:41:28,933
our vision,

1909
00:41:28,933 --> 00:41:30,272
strategic plan,

1910
00:41:30,272 --> 00:41:31,611
and priorities that

1911
00:41:31,611 --> 00:41:32,774
we're trying to

1912
00:41:32,774 --> 00:41:34,184
achieve right now, especially, um,

1913
00:41:34,184 --> 00:41:35,452
I just said that I

1914
00:41:35,452 --> 00:41:36,298
think

1915
00:41:36,298 --> 00:41:37,531
the number of children should not

1916
00:41:37,531 --> 00:41:38,940
exceed

1917
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:39,962
24. I know that we're going to

1918
00:41:39,962 --> 00:41:41,196
need to be more

1919
00:41:41,196 --> 00:41:42,323
efficient and

1920
00:41:42,323 --> 00:41:43,627
expand the cap, and

1921
00:41:43,627 --> 00:41:44,367
we also have

1922
00:41:44,367 --> 00:41:45,318
long-term

1923
00:41:45,318 --> 00:41:46,657
planning that will be

1924
00:41:46,657 --> 00:41:47,714
implemented, and I

1925
00:41:47,714 --> 00:41:48,807
think it's

1926
00:41:48,807 --> 00:41:50,181
safe to say

1927
00:41:50,181 --> 00:41:51,484
that it will help us with

1928
00:41:51,484 --> 00:41:52,682
the inefficiencies at the

1929
00:41:52,682 --> 00:41:55,666
elementary level.

1930
00:41:55,666 --> 00:41:57,138
So, taking all of

1931
00:41:57,138 --> 00:41:58,649
that into account, I don't think it would be a

1932
00:41:58,649 --> 00:41:59,668
good idea

1933
00:41:59,668 --> 00:42:01,141
to go over the

1934
00:42:01,141 --> 00:42:02,387
24 limit for

1935
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:03,709
preschool and fourth

1936
00:42:03,709 --> 00:42:04,643
grade. And then,

1937
00:42:04,643 --> 00:42:05,730
Brooklyn, can you

1938
00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:06,677
share what

1939
00:42:06,677 --> 00:42:07,865
you need to do?

1940
00:42:07,865 --> 00:42:08,836
So, one of the things

1941
00:42:08,836 --> 00:42:09,894
we talked about was

1942
00:42:09,894 --> 00:42:10,894
that

1943
00:42:10,894 --> 00:42:11,952
when you had to

1944
00:42:11,952 --> 00:42:13,038
split these classes with a

1945
00:42:13,038 --> 00:42:14,010
lot of

1946
00:42:14,010 --> 00:42:15,039
kids, and then you

1947
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:16,011
had classes with 13

1948
00:42:16,011 --> 00:42:16,983
or 15 kids, we

1949
00:42:16,983 --> 00:42:18,112
weren't being inefficient.

1950
00:42:18,112 --> 00:42:18,588
We were

1951
00:42:18,588 --> 00:42:20,252
ineffective. That we

1952
00:42:20,252 --> 00:42:21,447
need to look

1953
00:42:21,447 --> 00:42:22,610
at the map of the area of

1954
00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:23,837
these schools, and when we

1955
00:42:23,837 --> 00:42:25,001
have two or three such

1956
00:42:25,001 --> 00:42:26,101
schools near each

1957
00:42:26,101 --> 00:42:27,202
other, that's where we

1958
00:42:27,202 --> 00:42:29,026
need to consider

1959
00:42:29,057 --> 00:42:30,805
consolidation.

1960
00:42:30,805 --> 00:42:31,879
So these classes that are

1961
00:42:31,879 --> 00:42:32,714
shared with a

1962
00:42:32,714 --> 00:42:33,848
small number of

1963
00:42:33,848 --> 00:42:34,654
students, let's

1964
00:42:34,654 --> 00:42:35,400
consolidate and make the

1965
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,086
most of

1966
00:42:36,086 --> 00:42:37,011
it,

1967
00:42:37,011 --> 00:42:38,174
instead of having two

1968
00:42:38,174 --> 00:42:39,129
or three campuses that can't make the

1969
00:42:39,129 --> 00:42:40,323
best

1970
00:42:40,353 --> 00:42:41,546
use of their

1971
00:42:41,546 --> 00:42:42,966
financial needs.

1972
00:42:42,966 --> 00:42:47,667
Thank you. This table.

1973
00:42:47,667 --> 00:42:49,134
Oh, I'll just say what's on my

1974
00:42:49,134 --> 00:42:50,315
mind.

1975
00:42:50,315 --> 00:42:50,896
Um,

1976
00:42:50,896 --> 00:42:52,391
you know, I mean

1977
00:42:52,391 --> 00:42:53,772
, yeah, I have the same

1978
00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:55,414
feeling. The only thing that

1979
00:42:55,414 --> 00:42:59,879
worries me is

1980
00:42:59,879 --> 00:43:01,642
our balance of funds,

1981
00:43:01,642 --> 00:43:03,359
I think

1982
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:05,076
it will be even lower in 2027,

1983
00:43:05,076 --> 00:43:07,460
right? So if we

1984
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:08,488
don't make

1985
00:43:08,488 --> 00:43:10,076
any changes to the

1986
00:43:10,823 --> 00:43:11,597
staffing ratios in time,

1987
00:43:11,597 --> 00:43:14,390
we will significantly

1988
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:16,275
reduce this figure. And

1989
00:43:16,275 --> 00:43:17,018
I don't know if

1990
00:43:17,018 --> 00:43:17,825
consolidation

1991
00:43:17,825 --> 00:43:18,567
will happen

1992
00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:19,858
quickly enough for

1993
00:43:19,858 --> 00:43:21,085
us to be able to handle

1994
00:43:21,085 --> 00:43:23,311
that aspect. And

1995
00:43:23,311 --> 00:43:24,661
since I believe that,

1996
00:43:24,661 --> 00:43:25,538
while I don't

1997
00:43:25,538 --> 00:43:26,585
like the

1998
00:43:26,585 --> 00:43:27,563
ratios to

1999
00:43:27,563 --> 00:43:28,373
change,

2000
00:43:28,373 --> 00:43:29,386
only the

2001
00:43:29,386 --> 00:43:30,263
percentages change, because I

2002
00:43:30,263 --> 00:43:31,141
was asking about the

2003
00:43:31,141 --> 00:43:32,423
percentages of classes that would

2004
00:43:32,423 --> 00:43:33,301
have a higher

2005
00:43:33,301 --> 00:43:34,516
number of students

2006
00:43:34,516 --> 00:43:37,044
exceeding that limit. There are

2007
00:43:37,044 --> 00:43:40,692
lower percentages. Well, that's

2008
00:43:40,692 --> 00:43:41,620
not what I

2009
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:43,502
like. I don't

2010
00:43:43,502 --> 00:43:44,846
know of any other

2011
00:43:44,846 --> 00:43:47,599
option to solve the

2012
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:48,949
problems we have

2013
00:43:48,949 --> 00:43:50,198
without going beyond the

2014
00:43:50,198 --> 00:43:50,461
...

2015
00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:51,701
So I want to share

2016
00:43:51,701 --> 00:43:52,910
that I would like to know

2017
00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:53,871
if we have any

2018
00:43:53,871 --> 00:43:54,832
research that

2019
00:43:54,832 --> 00:43:55,979
shows that this gives

2020
00:43:55,979 --> 00:43:56,723
us reason

2021
00:43:56,723 --> 00:43:57,529
to stop at a

2022
00:43:57,529 --> 00:43:58,436
certain point.

2023
00:43:58,436 --> 00:43:59,747
For example, is there any

2024
00:43:59,747 --> 00:44:01,091
inflection point where

2025
00:44:01,091 --> 00:44:02,167
you think the

2026
00:44:02,167 --> 00:44:03,377
ratio or

2027
00:44:03,377 --> 00:44:04,654
average number of

2028
00:44:04,654 --> 00:44:05,966
students in a class changes, and how is that

2029
00:44:05,966 --> 00:44:06,974
related to that

2030
00:44:06,974 --> 00:44:08,117
number of students, and

2031
00:44:08,117 --> 00:44:09,293
what is the magnitude of that

2032
00:44:09,293 --> 00:44:10,627
effect? And if so, then

2033
00:44:10,627 --> 00:44:11,742
we have to make a

2034
00:44:11,742 --> 00:44:12,920
value judgment at

2035
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,067
some point when

2036
00:44:14,067 --> 00:44:14,927
we cut off

2037
00:44:14,927 --> 00:44:16,074
based on what

2038
00:44:16,074 --> 00:44:16,902
we think

2039
00:44:16,902 --> 00:44:18,049
will happen to the students,

2040
00:44:18,049 --> 00:44:19,132
because I think there is

2041
00:44:19,132 --> 00:44:20,781
that connection.

2042
00:44:20,781 --> 00:44:22,131
Hmm, another question

2043
00:44:22,131 --> 00:44:23,409
I have is how many

2044
00:44:23,409 --> 00:44:24,724
districts around us

2045
00:44:24,724 --> 00:44:26,145
are using DOI to

2046
00:44:26,145 --> 00:44:26,891
determine the

2047
00:44:26,891 --> 00:44:28,277
1 to 24 ratio

2048
00:44:28,277 --> 00:44:29,627
at this point, because

2049
00:44:29,627 --> 00:44:30,764
I get

2050
00:44:30,764 --> 00:44:31,971
the impression that some

2051
00:44:31,971 --> 00:44:33,392
districts have been doing this for

2052
00:44:33,392 --> 00:44:34,423
a while, and whether we

2053
00:44:34,423 --> 00:44:36,582
do it or not.

2054
00:44:36,582 --> 00:44:38,315
This is true. I think, I

2055
00:44:38,315 --> 00:44:39,476
think that's true, and

2056
00:44:39,476 --> 00:44:40,339
I think the other

2057
00:44:40,339 --> 00:44:41,440
part of it now is

2058
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,452
that

2059
00:44:42,452 --> 00:44:43,345
probably in some

2060
00:44:43,345 --> 00:44:44,535
areas a little more

2061
00:44:44,535 --> 00:44:45,666
like Arlington,

2062
00:44:45,666 --> 00:44:46,410
there are schools that are

2063
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:47,541
much smaller, where

2064
00:44:47,541 --> 00:44:48,701
you see other schools,

2065
00:44:48,701 --> 00:44:49,624
and I use

2066
00:44:49,624 --> 00:44:50,784
some of the fast-

2067
00:44:50,784 --> 00:44:52,169
growing schools, right?

2068
00:44:52,169 --> 00:44:53,473
in other buildings for

2069
00:44:53,473 --> 00:44:54,640
over 800 students to

2070
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,807
spread

2071
00:44:55,807 --> 00:44:56,974
some of that out a little bit so

2072
00:44:56,974 --> 00:44:57,969
they can be more

2073
00:44:57,969 --> 00:44:59,838
efficient. Regarding

2074
00:44:59,838 --> 00:45:00,952
Scott's comment,

2075
00:45:00,952 --> 00:45:02,098
when you have a small

2076
00:45:02,098 --> 00:45:02,925
canvas and you

2077
00:45:02,925 --> 00:45:04,198
actually have to

2078
00:45:04,198 --> 00:45:05,471
split up, and you

2079
00:45:05,471 --> 00:45:06,553
only have three teachers in

2080
00:45:06,553 --> 00:45:07,699
that classroom or two

2081
00:45:07,699 --> 00:45:08,940
teachers in that classroom

2082
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:09,959
, it puts us in a

2083
00:45:09,959 --> 00:45:10,723
very difficult

2084
00:45:10,723 --> 00:45:11,938
position. So, I

2085
00:45:11,938 --> 00:45:13,242
think that's another

2086
00:45:13,242 --> 00:45:14,545
thing that you see in

2087
00:45:14,545 --> 00:45:15,994
some other districts

2088
00:45:15,994 --> 00:45:18,275
is that the average

2089
00:45:18,311 --> 00:45:19,506
elementary school enrollment is

2090
00:45:19,506 --> 00:45:20,882
probably higher than

2091
00:45:20,882 --> 00:45:21,236
ours.

2092
00:45:21,236 --> 00:45:22,360
Yes, and that's why I said I would like to take

2093
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,393
that

2094
00:45:23,393 --> 00:45:24,518
into account, there are a

2095
00:45:24,518 --> 00:45:25,811
lot of variables. But I do

2096
00:45:25,811 --> 00:45:27,183
n't know if I should

2097
00:45:27,183 --> 00:45:28,521
do that, I would say there

2098
00:45:28,521 --> 00:45:29,859
's a hard limit of 24, there's a

2099
00:45:29,859 --> 00:45:30,819
hard limit of 26,

2100
00:45:30,819 --> 00:45:33,254
depending on what the

2101
00:45:33,289 --> 00:45:34,523
student achievement data shows, and

2102
00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:35,621
where we think the

2103
00:45:35,621 --> 00:45:36,581
actual

2104
00:45:36,581 --> 00:45:37,610
average

2105
00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:38,913
class size will be based on those

2106
00:45:38,913 --> 00:45:40,207
ratios.

2107
00:45:40,207 --> 00:45:41,041
Because if we, from

2108
00:45:41,041 --> 00:45:42,142
preschool to

2109
00:45:42,142 --> 00:45:43,125
fourth grade,

2110
00:45:43,125 --> 00:45:43,929
if we

2111
00:45:43,929 --> 00:45:44,911
staff

2112
00:45:44,911 --> 00:45:45,745
it with the same

2113
00:45:45,745 --> 00:45:46,906
number of students - 1

2114
00:45:46,906 --> 00:45:48,960
to 25 or 1 to 26, but

2115
00:45:48,989 --> 00:45:50,180
our average class size is still

2116
00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:51,341
going to be less than 20, I think

2117
00:45:51,341 --> 00:45:52,636
that's wrong.

2118
00:45:52,636 --> 00:45:54,269
I understand. Thanks for

2119
00:45:54,269 --> 00:45:57,797
the feedback. I can't

2120
00:45:57,797 --> 00:45:59,033
give you well-

2121
00:45:59,033 --> 00:45:59,621
thought-out

2122
00:45:59,621 --> 00:46:00,332
comparative

2123
00:46:00,332 --> 00:46:01,414
research data right now,

2124
00:46:01,414 --> 00:46:02,465
but we'll definitely

2125
00:46:02,465 --> 00:46:04,407
look into it. What we

2126
00:46:04,407 --> 00:46:05,694
noticed, and what

2127
00:46:05,694 --> 00:46:06,784
Roberto and

2128
00:46:06,784 --> 00:46:07,709
Melody can add if you

2129
00:46:07,709 --> 00:46:08,732
look at it

2130
00:46:08,732 --> 00:46:10,718
differently. As we

2131
00:46:10,718 --> 00:46:11,699
looked at the data,

2132
00:46:11,699 --> 00:46:12,839
particularly the slides that

2133
00:46:12,839 --> 00:46:13,789
Roberto showed

2134
00:46:13,789 --> 00:46:14,929
earlier, we noticed

2135
00:46:14,929 --> 00:46:16,132
some areas in

2136
00:46:16,132 --> 00:46:17,367
terms of ratios,

2137
00:46:17,367 --> 00:46:18,507
whether

2138
00:46:18,507 --> 00:46:19,584
we were talking about the

2139
00:46:19,584 --> 00:46:20,724
total number of

2140
00:46:20,724 --> 00:46:21,737
staff or

2141
00:46:21,737 --> 00:46:22,814
specific breakthroughs in

2142
00:46:22,814 --> 00:46:25,896
those staff.

2143
00:46:25,896 --> 00:46:26,931
Some of these same

2144
00:46:26,931 --> 00:46:27,966
districts that were

2145
00:46:27,966 --> 00:46:29,098
more efficient

2146
00:46:29,098 --> 00:46:29,681
had higher

2147
00:46:29,681 --> 00:46:30,651
ratios,

2148
00:46:30,651 --> 00:46:31,913
meaning they actually

2149
00:46:31,913 --> 00:46:32,948
performed better as well

2150
00:46:32,948 --> 00:46:34,974
. So it

2151
00:46:34,974 --> 00:46:35,897
definitely goes against the

2152
00:46:35,897 --> 00:46:37,249
grain. And I do

2153
00:46:37,249 --> 00:46:38,097
n't think you

2154
00:46:38,097 --> 00:46:38,945
mentioned it, but it

2155
00:46:38,945 --> 00:46:39,926
goes against the idea that

2156
00:46:39,926 --> 00:46:40,482
maybe we're

2157
00:46:40,482 --> 00:46:41,542
exceeding the point where

2158
00:46:41,542 --> 00:46:42,284
we could be

2159
00:46:42,284 --> 00:46:43,291
effective because there

2160
00:46:43,291 --> 00:46:43,954
are districts that

2161
00:46:43,954 --> 00:46:45,061
seem to be doing it.

2162
00:46:45,061 --> 00:46:46,140
Right. Because

2163
00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:46,598
for me, the

2164
00:46:46,598 --> 00:46:48,287
most important thing is what

2165
00:46:48,316 --> 00:46:49,241
will actually happen. What does it

2166
00:46:49,241 --> 00:46:50,337
actually look like in the

2167
00:46:50,337 --> 00:46:51,421
average classroom?

2168
00:46:51,421 --> 00:46:52,163
As for the

2169
00:46:52,163 --> 00:46:53,106
natural sciences,

2170
00:46:53,106 --> 00:46:54,007
they were initially...

2171
00:46:54,007 --> 00:46:54,392
Yes.

2172
00:46:54,392 --> 00:46:54,953
Increasing

2173
00:46:54,953 --> 00:46:55,729
the ratio

2174
00:46:55,729 --> 00:46:56,558
doesn't really make that

2175
00:46:56,558 --> 00:46:57,621
much of an impact. I would

2176
00:46:57,621 --> 00:46:58,721
say that it gives a

2177
00:46:58,721 --> 00:47:00,064
lot of freedom of action.

2178
00:47:00,064 --> 00:47:01,124
Maybe a little of

2179
00:47:01,124 --> 00:47:01,614
this too.

2180
00:47:01,614 --> 00:47:02,836
Good. Thanks for

2181
00:47:02,836 --> 00:47:04,877
the feedback. Something else?

2182
00:47:04,877 --> 00:47:05,946
I think that was a

2183
00:47:05,946 --> 00:47:07,250
summary of a lot of what

2184
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:08,419
was just

2185
00:47:08,419 --> 00:47:09,656
said, but it's clearly more

2186
00:47:09,656 --> 00:47:10,926
effective the

2187
00:47:10,926 --> 00:47:11,996
larger the elementary

2188
00:47:11,996 --> 00:47:13,220
school. We really

2189
00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:14,355
focused on

2190
00:47:14,355 --> 00:47:15,954
classes 1 to 21. And

2191
00:47:15,954 --> 00:47:16,843
then we also

2192
00:47:16,843 --> 00:47:18,062
realized that it

2193
00:47:18,062 --> 00:47:19,214
couldn't be based on

2194
00:47:19,214 --> 00:47:20,367
class ranges

2195
00:47:20,367 --> 00:47:21,519
because you'd still

2196
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:22,540
leave it at

2197
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:23,725
level 22. It had to be

2198
00:47:23,725 --> 00:47:24,944
based on something

2199
00:47:24,944 --> 00:47:26,820
bigger. That is, this is the

2200
00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:28,068
average across the

2201
00:47:28,068 --> 00:47:28,979
entire district,

2202
00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:30,530
take four. I'm

2203
00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:32,021
trying to understand

2204
00:47:32,021 --> 00:47:33,575
how a DOI is structured.

2205
00:47:33,575 --> 00:47:34,939
Is it by campus or by

2206
00:47:34,939 --> 00:47:36,071
district? I

2207
00:47:36,071 --> 00:47:37,161
mean, that's something we're going to have to

2208
00:47:37,161 --> 00:47:38,405
figure out,

2209
00:47:38,405 --> 00:47:39,588
because if you make

2210
00:47:39,588 --> 00:47:40,739
it too broad,

2211
00:47:40,739 --> 00:47:41,798
you can have both

2212
00:47:41,798 --> 00:47:42,949
extremely high

2213
00:47:42,949 --> 00:47:43,976
and extremely

2214
00:47:43,976 --> 00:47:45,178
low numbers. But if you

2215
00:47:45,178 --> 00:47:46,227
make it too

2216
00:47:46,227 --> 00:47:47,335
narrow, you won't

2217
00:47:47,335 --> 00:47:48,307
change anything. If you

2218
00:47:48,307 --> 00:47:49,332
just do it at the

2219
00:47:49,332 --> 00:47:50,176
class level, you're

2220
00:47:50,176 --> 00:47:51,261
literally leaving

2221
00:47:51,261 --> 00:47:52,437
it at level 23 or 24.

2222
00:47:52,437 --> 00:47:53,492
So, I think that was a

2223
00:47:53,492 --> 00:47:54,547
point that we

2224
00:47:54,547 --> 00:47:55,451
just kept

2225
00:47:55,451 --> 00:48:02,207
coming back to.

2226
00:48:02,207 --> 00:48:03,360
So we kept it and

2227
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,365
talked about it, and there was an

2228
00:48:04,365 --> 00:48:05,193
opportunity for

2229
00:48:05,193 --> 00:48:08,308
discussion. Hmm, that

2230
00:48:08,345 --> 00:48:09,663
relates to

2231
00:48:09,663 --> 00:48:12,676
Mr. Thompson's question to some extent. If

2232
00:48:12,676 --> 00:48:13,523
we look at the

2233
00:48:13,523 --> 00:48:14,501
average

2234
00:48:14,501 --> 00:48:15,674
class sizes, not the limits, but the

2235
00:48:15,674 --> 00:48:16,652
average

2236
00:48:16,652 --> 00:48:17,923
class sizes, understanding that

2237
00:48:17,923 --> 00:48:18,901
we're setting a

2238
00:48:18,901 --> 00:48:20,041
control limit

2239
00:48:20,041 --> 00:48:20,986
that shouldn't

2240
00:48:20,986 --> 00:48:21,964
exceed that

2241
00:48:21,964 --> 00:48:23,170
value by more than

2242
00:48:23,170 --> 00:48:24,213
three, then...And it's

2243
00:48:24,213 --> 00:48:25,288
just...It's just a

2244
00:48:25,288 --> 00:48:27,118
conversation right now. This is

2245
00:48:27,118 --> 00:48:28,301
definitely not a solution or

2246
00:48:28,301 --> 00:48:29,683
anything like that. And if

2247
00:48:29,683 --> 00:48:31,243
you go to these...

2248
00:48:31,243 --> 00:48:32,721
And if you go

2249
00:48:32,721 --> 00:48:33,911
to these

2250
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:35,020
averages, you're

2251
00:48:35,020 --> 00:48:36,005
talking about a

2252
00:48:36,005 --> 00:48:37,278
projected 21.67

2253
00:48:37,278 --> 00:48:38,412
million. And that's

2254
00:48:38,412 --> 00:48:39,800
compared to our

2255
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,398
deficit of 27. So that's

2256
00:48:41,398 --> 00:48:45,030
about a third. And that's what

2257
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:46,083
we

2258
00:48:46,083 --> 00:48:48,179
talked about. Again

2259
00:48:48,179 --> 00:48:48,839
, this is not a

2260
00:48:48,839 --> 00:48:49,862
recommendation, it's

2261
00:48:49,862 --> 00:48:51,083
just a context for

2262
00:48:51,083 --> 00:48:54,235
this, an influence. Let's

2263
00:48:54,235 --> 00:48:56,413
continue. Last

2264
00:48:56,413 --> 00:48:58,935
slide. Hmm, we

2265
00:48:58,935 --> 00:48:59,653
tried to

2266
00:48:59,653 --> 00:49:00,372
build

2267
00:49:00,372 --> 00:49:01,604
a chronology because

2268
00:49:01,604 --> 00:49:04,550
it's a detailed work.

2269
00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:05,760
This is personal work

2270
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,480
towards people. This is

2271
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,562
personal work

2272
00:49:08,562 --> 00:49:09,907
towards students. And we

2273
00:49:09,907 --> 00:49:10,612
must be

2274
00:49:10,612 --> 00:49:11,799
thoughtful about this.

2275
00:49:11,799 --> 00:49:12,584
And in order to

2276
00:49:12,584 --> 00:49:13,690
make progress, we

2277
00:49:13,690 --> 00:49:14,825
need to bring some

2278
00:49:14,825 --> 00:49:15,523
structure to the

2279
00:49:15,523 --> 00:49:16,813
schedule. So, here we are today

2280
00:49:16,813 --> 00:49:17,382
,

2281
00:49:17,382 --> 00:49:19,152
having looked at some

2282
00:49:19,184 --> 00:49:21,303
county benchmarks. Um

2283
00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:22,031
, and of course,

2284
00:49:22,031 --> 00:49:23,415
holding a seminar

2285
00:49:23,415 --> 00:49:27,396
for the board of directors.

2286
00:49:27,396 --> 00:49:28,632
It's about early

2287
00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:29,769
October, November,

2288
00:49:29,769 --> 00:49:32,309
coming back with a progress report to the

2289
00:49:32,343 --> 00:49:33,446
board, which is where we

2290
00:49:33,446 --> 00:49:34,716
are now, and

2291
00:49:34,716 --> 00:49:35,886
then the culmination,

2292
00:49:35,886 --> 00:49:37,223
ultimately, as a result of

2293
00:49:37,223 --> 00:49:38,126
this work, we

2294
00:49:38,126 --> 00:49:39,062
discussed with

2295
00:49:39,062 --> 00:49:39,697
the departments

2296
00:49:39,697 --> 00:49:40,967
the recommendations, actions, and

2297
00:49:40,967 --> 00:49:42,204
impact, if that's what's

2298
00:49:42,204 --> 00:49:43,207
happening at the

2299
00:49:43,207 --> 00:49:44,042
department level,

2300
00:49:44,042 --> 00:49:45,246
probably at the very

2301
00:49:45,246 --> 00:49:46,516
beginning of December, give or take.

2302
00:49:46,516 --> 00:49:50,044
And then, in

2303
00:49:50,044 --> 00:49:51,316
January and February, if

2304
00:49:51,316 --> 00:49:52,588
we're going to do

2305
00:49:52,588 --> 00:49:54,936
something different, that's when the

2306
00:49:54,969 --> 00:49:55,882
recruiting process starts every year

2307
00:49:55,882 --> 00:49:57,525
. So if

2308
00:49:57,525 --> 00:49:58,744
we're going to do

2309
00:49:58,744 --> 00:49:59,963
something different, we need to

2310
00:49:59,963 --> 00:50:00,745
be in a

2311
00:50:00,745 --> 00:50:01,808
position where we've

2312
00:50:01,808 --> 00:50:02,683
properly

2313
00:50:02,683 --> 00:50:03,684
communicated to our

2314
00:50:03,684 --> 00:50:04,590
campuses, our

2315
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:05,622
leaders, our

2316
00:50:05,622 --> 00:50:06,779
directors, and our

2317
00:50:06,779 --> 00:50:08,030
employees that this

2318
00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:09,280
impacts not only what,

2319
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,312
but what, so that

2320
00:50:10,312 --> 00:50:11,344
when we start the

2321
00:50:11,344 --> 00:50:12,219
recruiting process

2322
00:50:12,219 --> 00:50:13,313
as part of the

2323
00:50:13,313 --> 00:50:14,470
annual cycle, it's not

2324
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:15,564
"this is all brand

2325
00:50:15,564 --> 00:50:16,408
new, what are you

2326
00:50:16,408 --> 00:50:17,626
talking about?" This is not how

2327
00:50:17,626 --> 00:50:18,804
I want to treat

2328
00:50:18,804 --> 00:50:20,021
people. I know

2329
00:50:20,021 --> 00:50:21,176
none of us want to

2330
00:50:21,176 --> 00:50:22,575
do this. So to

2331
00:50:22,575 --> 00:50:23,895
achieve this goal, we

2332
00:50:23,895 --> 00:50:24,910
need to make

2333
00:50:24,910 --> 00:50:26,128
real progress

2334
00:50:26,128 --> 00:50:28,069
here. So, that was all

2335
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:29,409
we had for the evening

2336
00:50:29,409 --> 00:50:30,540
. Of course, I would be happy

2337
00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:31,406
to take any

2338
00:50:31,406 --> 00:50:32,429
final comments or

2339
00:50:32,429 --> 00:50:33,400
questions you

2340
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,423
may have, and I

2341
00:50:34,423 --> 00:50:35,420
greatly appreciate your

2342
00:50:35,420 --> 00:50:36,232
participation.

2343
00:50:36,232 --> 00:50:37,537
Guardians, are there any

2344
00:50:37,537 --> 00:50:38,842
final questions,

2345
00:50:38,842 --> 00:50:39,886
comments regarding

2346
00:50:39,886 --> 00:50:41,228
Umberto, uh, Scott,

2347
00:50:41,228 --> 00:50:42,000
and Melody?

2348
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,338
Thank you. It was wonderful.

2349
00:50:44,438 --> 00:50:45,687
Thank you very much. I was

2350
00:50:45,687 --> 00:50:46,281
pleased.

2351
00:50:46,281 --> 00:50:46,956
Thank you.

2352
00:50:46,956 --> 00:50:47,955
Scott, I want to

2353
00:50:47,955 --> 00:50:48,954
make it clear that what you

2354
00:50:48,954 --> 00:50:50,034
saw there is not, and just in

2355
00:50:50,034 --> 00:50:51,033
case the

2356
00:50:51,033 --> 00:50:51,762
public

2357
00:50:51,762 --> 00:50:52,815
has any questions, there are

2358
00:50:52,815 --> 00:50:53,652
no

2359
00:50:53,652 --> 00:50:54,566
recommendations here. We're

2360
00:50:54,566 --> 00:50:55,205
trying to

2361
00:50:55,205 --> 00:50:56,234
get a sense of your pulse

2362
00:50:56,234 --> 00:50:57,263
on some things and

2363
00:50:57,263 --> 00:50:58,041
then lay the

2364
00:50:58,041 --> 00:50:59,126
groundwork for those conversations

2365
00:50:59,126 --> 00:51:00,071
, because you see

2366
00:51:00,071 --> 00:51:01,156
this graph in front of us

2367
00:51:01,156 --> 00:51:02,356
. We have a clock

2368
00:51:02,356 --> 00:51:03,671
that ticks and makes

2369
00:51:03,671 --> 00:51:04,986
some of these important

2370
00:51:04,986 --> 00:51:07,307
decisions. Um, I really

2371
00:51:07,307 --> 00:51:08,412
appreciate the work, and you

2372
00:51:08,412 --> 00:51:09,382
see, the collaboration

2373
00:51:09,382 --> 00:51:10,621
between

2374
00:51:10,621 --> 00:51:11,089
HR,

2375
00:51:11,089 --> 00:51:12,161
research and

2376
00:51:12,161 --> 00:51:13,500
accountability, and

2377
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:15,933
finance. This is one of the

2378
00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:18,262
best recruiting seminars

2379
00:51:18,293 --> 00:51:19,286
I have ever

2380
00:51:19,286 --> 00:51:20,342
seen in any

2381
00:51:20,342 --> 00:51:21,305
district I have ever

2382
00:51:21,305 --> 00:51:22,164
been to. We have

2383
00:51:22,164 --> 00:51:23,936
done our best to

2384
00:51:23,964 --> 00:51:24,490
outline very clearly the

2385
00:51:24,490 --> 00:51:25,514
mathematical challenge

2386
00:51:25,514 --> 00:51:26,594
that lies before us

2387
00:51:26,594 --> 00:51:27,591
, and to make sure that

2388
00:51:27,591 --> 00:51:28,311
everyone understands the

2389
00:51:28,311 --> 00:51:29,335
mathematical challenge

2390
00:51:29,335 --> 00:51:30,415
that lies before us

2391
00:51:30,415 --> 00:51:32,093
, and it is not personal. We have a

2392
00:51:32,124 --> 00:51:33,348
math problem, and

2393
00:51:33,348 --> 00:51:34,174
we have to

2394
00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:35,062
figure out together how

2395
00:51:35,062 --> 00:51:36,403
to solve it. So thank you

2396
00:51:36,403 --> 00:51:37,712
all for working

2397
00:51:37,712 --> 00:51:39,218
with us.

2398
00:51:39,218 --> 00:51:41,026
Good. Yes, thank you all

2399
00:51:41,026 --> 00:51:42,021
. This was great

2400
00:51:42,021 --> 00:51:42,965
wording and

2401
00:51:42,965 --> 00:51:43,784
context, and we

2402
00:51:43,784 --> 00:51:45,011
really appreciate your

2403
00:51:45,011 --> 00:51:46,238
hard work and

2404
00:51:46,238 --> 00:51:47,291
time. It is

2405
00:51:47,291 --> 00:51:49,780
6:10 PM. At this time, we

2406
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:51,030
will discuss and

2407
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:52,665
resume a closed

2408
00:51:52,665 --> 00:51:55,838
session in the boardroom

2409
00:51:55,886 --> 00:51:57,136
pursuant to

2410
00:51:57,136 --> 00:51:59,011
Texas Government Code

2411
00:51:59,011 --> 00:52:00,262
551.071, 551.074, 551.089 of the

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Texas Government Code

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00:52:02,137 --> 00:52:03,964
and Texas

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Open Meetings Act 551.071.

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Yes.

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Good job.

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Great job.