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We'll now call to order the Arvvada City

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Council meeting for September 15, 2026.

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Apologies for our late start. We had two

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very um good study sessions and ran over

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a little bit, but um we are happy to get

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going here. So, at this time, I will

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call on Council Member Griffith to lead

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us in a moment of silent reflection and

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the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I invite everybody uh to enjoy a moment

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of silent reflection.

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Please stand for the pledge of

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>> allegiance.

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to the reps

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one nation

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all.

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» Miss Rush, will you please do the roll

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call?

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>> Mayor Simpson, Mayor Prom Mormon,

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>> here.

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>> Council member Ambrose

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>> here.

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>> Council member Davis

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>> here.

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>> Council member Feifer

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>> here.

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>> Council member Griffith

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>> here.

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>> Council member Leon

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>> here. Council member Feifer,

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>> I'd like to make the motion to excuse

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Mayor Simpson from tonight. She's

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advocating for the city of Washington

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DC.

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>> Yes. All right. You may start voting.

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» And that passes six to zero with uh now

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Mayor Simpson being excused. Thank you.

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Uh presented are the minutes of the city

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council business meeting dated September

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1st, 2026. Are there any changes or

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corrections from council?

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All right. Seeing none, the minutes will

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stand as presented.

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Uh, next we have proclamations and we

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will start with Council Member Davis

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presenting the proclamation for

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Constitution Week.

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>> Thank you. It is my honor to be the

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proclamation for Constitution Week.

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Whereas September 17, 2026 marks the

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239th

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anniversary of the final drafting of the

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Constitution of the United States of

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America by the Constitutional

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Convention. And whereas it is fitting

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and proper to accord official

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recognition to this magnificent document

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and its memorable anniversary and to the

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patriotic celebrations which will

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commemorate the occasion. And whereas

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public law 915 guarantees the issuing of

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a proclamation each year by the

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president of the United States of

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America designating September 17th

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through the 23rd as Constitution Week.

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Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the

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mayor and the city council of the city

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of Arvvada, Colorado, hereby proclaim

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the week of September 17th through the

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23rd, 2026 as Constitution Week and ask

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our citizens to reaffirm the ideals of

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the framers of the Constitution had in

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1787 by vigilantly protecting the

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freedoms guaranteed to us through the

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guardians of our liberties, remembering

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that lost rights may never be regained.

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dated this day, 15th day of September,

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2026. Do we have someone here to accept

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this?

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I think you go ahead and step to the

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microphone. Absolutely.

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Thank you, gentle council members, for

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taking time out of your agenda to

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recognize Constitution Week in this

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momentous year of America 250, Colorado

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150. The Constitution serves as a

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guiding principle for our laws and needs

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to be celebrated alongside America's big

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birthday.

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National Society Daughters of the

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American Revolution is honoring this

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year with a month of service in this

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local chapter. Dr. Susan Anderson

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chapter is giving tr has given treats to

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our first responders on September 11th.

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Bell ringing for Constitution Week with

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two schools kindergarten classes, street

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cleanup at our adopt a street and

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weeding at the Leiden Mine Rock Memorial

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at Patridge Park. We are esteemed to be

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part of this community and thank you for

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serving as their leaders. Awesome.

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Next, council member Ambrose will

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present the proclamation for NA National

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Manufacturing Month.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Prom. Um, I'd like to

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invite up Aida staff um Manufacturers

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Edge, Greater Nevada City Chamber of

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Commerce and Workforce Colorado to come

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up for this proclamation.

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Mormon and members of council for

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recognizing October as manufacturing

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month in Arvvada.

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I'm Nancy Flock, interim executive

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director for the Arvvada Economic

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Development Association. And it's an

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honor to accept this on behalf of the

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manufacturers, workers, and partner

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organizations who make Arvvada's

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manufacturing sector what it is.

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Supporting this industry isn't a one

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organization effort. as I'm joined this

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evening by representatives Ed Olivio

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from Manufacturers Edge, Jess Fuller

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from the Greater Arvvada Chamber of

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Commerce, and Mike Aean from Workforce

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Colorado, Jefferson, Clear Creek, and

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Manufacturers Edge works directly with

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our local manufacturers on the ground

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through the Arvvada manufacturing

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initiative, helping companies modernize

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equipment, adopt new technology, and

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stay competitive. The Greater Arvvada

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Chamber of Commerce advocates for these

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businesses, builds relationships across

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our business community, co-f facilitates

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sector partnerships, and makes sure our

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manufacturers have a voice in decisions

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that affect their ability to grow right

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here in Arvvada. and Workforce Colorado

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Jefferson Clear Creek Gilpin is also

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building the talent pipeline with

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apprenticeships, training, and career

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pathways that turn an entry-level

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manufacturing job into a real career for

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our VAT students and anyone looking for

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a fresh start. Manufacturing Month is a

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chance to invite our community,

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students, job seekers, neighbors, um, to

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explore what modern manufacturing looks

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like today. It's not what a lot of

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people think. It's precision,

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innovation, and skilled work. and it

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deserves to be seen. On behalf of

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everyone standing with me today, thank

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you for recognizing manufacturing's

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contributions tonight.

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>> Well, um, thank you very much. We are

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glad to honor you with the following

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proclamation. Whereas October is

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recognized as National Manufacturing

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Month, celebrating the role of

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manufacturing innovation and providing

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jobs and high quality of life for our

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community. And whereas manufacturing

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employers in Arvvada support a wide

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range of industries including aerospace,

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food production, renewable energy and

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advanced materials. And whereas Arvvada

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is home to 102 manufacturing firms which

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provide 2,533

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entry level um highly skilled level jobs

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and significantly contribute to

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Arvvada's economic vitality. And whereas

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hosting manufacturers in Arvvada

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contributes to the city's taxpays fund

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and sustain the community involvement

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projects that make up our city a great

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place to live. Now therefore be it

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proclaimed by the mayor and city council

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of the city of Arvvada, Colorado that

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the month of October 2026 be designated

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as National Manufacturing Month. We

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encourage all our VA community members

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to join us in celebrating and supporting

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our local manufacturers.

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» Thank Thank you. Next, Council Member

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recognizing Joe Hanksler.

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>> Thank you so much, your honor. Um, so I

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would love to invite up family members,

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friends, um, Oldtown business crew, uh,

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anyone else who's interested in coming

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forward. And just a little, it's truly

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an honor to be honoring Joe. The first

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time I met him was like seven years ago

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with the festivals commission. and he

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was um leaving and I was coming in and

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then it I think we we are just truly

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honored and incredibly lucky to have

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such an exceptional human. So feel very

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honored to be reading this proclamation.

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And if you want to speak first and then

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I can read the proclamation if you'd

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>> Sure. Uh thank you. Uh thank you city

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council members and mayor Lauren for

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acknowledging the impact that Joe had on

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not only Oldtown but the city as a

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whole. Clearly you can see a lot of

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people here tonight to recognize him and

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throughout the city. Joe is a unique

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soul and he definitely left a unique

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impression on Oldtown and on all of us.

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So we're really delighted to be able to

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honor him with Joe Hensler Day next

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Tuesday. Uh we also came together as a

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group and we are excited to announce the

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Joe Hensler vibrancy grant. Um the

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business improvement board of directors

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have decided to commit $2,500 every year

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to any business within Oldtown that has

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a project that represents the creativity

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and the uniqueness that Joe helped

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inspire throughout Oldtown. Uh we also

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have a goal to raise a minimum of an

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additional $2,500 every year so that we

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can really continue the impact that he

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had on the town for years to come.

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consider um doing this proclamation

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annually so that we can announce what

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the next grant uh project will be and

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really rally the community behind it and

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honor our friend. Thank you.

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» Thank you so much and thank you for

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being here. Um whereas Joe Hensler

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served with profound distinction as the

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executive director of the Oldtown

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earning the affectionate and enduring

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title of the mayor of Oldtown

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through his visionary leadership and

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tireless advocacy. And whereas during

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unprecedented times of economic

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uncertainty, Joe worked selflessly to

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protect the local economy, implementing

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innovative solutions to ensure our

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beloved neighborhood small businesses

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stayed open and resilient through the

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challenges of the pandemic. And whereas

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Joe left an unmistakable permanent mark

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on our historic district by actively

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championing public art, rich cultural

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programs, and vibrant community

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entertainment,

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intentionally designing spaces where all

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people felt safe, valued, and welcome.

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And whereas Joe was a deeply devoted

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husband and father whose kindness knew

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no bounds, who genuinely never met a

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stranger and who chose to live every

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single day being generous with his time,

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talent in service of a stronger Arvvada.

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And whereas facing a courageous battle

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with cancer, Joe handled his diagnosis

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with unshakable dignity, focusing his

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remaining time on maximizing his efforts

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for his family, his friends, and the

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ultimate betterment of the municipal

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community. And whereas following his

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tragic passing on September 23rd, 2025,

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the city of Arvvada wishes to preserve

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his extraordinary legacy, honoring a

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life that touched thousands of fellow

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residents and inspired all of us to lead

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with a servant's heart.

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Now therefore, be it proclaimed by the

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mayor and city council of the city of

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Arvvada, Colorado, that September 23rd,

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2026

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be designated as Hanksler Community Day

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in the city of Arvvada, and invite all

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our vetins to participate actively by

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finding meaningful ways to make a

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positive impact, to give back to their

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neighborhoods, and to bring people

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closer together in the true spirit of

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Joe Hensler.

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dated this 15th day of September, 2026.

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[applause]

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» [laughter]

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» Thank you all for coming out tonight to

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honor Joe and his legacy. He uh he had a

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major impact on myself and I think many

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of us here on council and and of course

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our our great city. So may we continue

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his work as the proclamation declares.

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There are no presentations tonight. So

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we move into public comment. Um public

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comment is for items not scheduled on

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the agenda for a public hearing which is

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limited to three minutes per person. It

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is your opportunity to address city

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council. You will we will always listen

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carefully to what you have to say, but

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we do not respond to comments during the

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meeting. Uh we will refer any issues

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raised during public comment to the city

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team who is here for further research

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and resolution if that is needed. So I

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will begin. My first uh person on the

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signup sheet is Karen De Aguero.

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I'm vertically challenged.

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Hi, my name is Karen Deedto. I live in

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East Arvvada in Arlington Meadows. And I

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just want to come tonight and talk to

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you about some of my experiences in my

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neighborhood. This past Friday morning,

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I was walking my dogs through Tennyson

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and Nolles Park and I stopped to take a

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closer look at the condition of the

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park. It has deteriorated significantly

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over the past year. This caught my

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attention because last November, our

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neighborhood met with the parks

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department to raise concerns about the

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park. And at that meeting, the parks

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team committed to maintaining the rest

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of Tennyson and Nolles in top condition

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while the turf conversion area was

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transitioned. Today, an estimated two

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additional acres outside of that area

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are bare or dead, resulting in nearly

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42% of our park being negatively

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impacted by poor maintenance.

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So, I recalled a Facebook video of Mayor

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Simpson explaining that reduced watering

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because of drought conditions might make

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Arvvada's parks look browner than

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normal. I thought, let's go look at the

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other parks. So, I photographed seven

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Arvvada parks in a single morning. The

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same day, the same weather, the same

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drought conditions with the same camera

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and every edit photo is unedited. And

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the comparison is striking.

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This is not a symptom of 20% less

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watering that is to help with our

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drought and this is a conservation

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effort that I support. This is an

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ongoing issue that deserves attention

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and care. Please note that none of these

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photos are within the turf conversion

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areas of any of these three parks.

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At Tennyson Nolles, a turf conversion

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pilot park along with Jack B. Tomlinson

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and Clubcross North. The conversion area

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covers 3.8 acres, about 32% of the park.

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The city's website describes it as low,

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but it's a large open field. Every park

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visit, I see dog owners using it, and

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kids used to play sports there. It was

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once a prime location within the park.

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The city began converting Jack B.

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Tomlinson, approximately 1.6 acres or

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12% of the park, and Club Crest North,

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approximately 0.6 acres or 6% of the

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park in 2024. After 2 years, neither

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area appears to have an established

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stand of native plants. So, if the city

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has not yet established native

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vegetation on areas that are less than

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half the size, I think it's fair to ask,

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what should we expect from a 32%

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conversion of Tennis and Nolles Park? We

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are not asking you to reverse this

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program. We're just asking for a few

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simple things. Maintain the park. Ensure

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turf conversion means an actual

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conversion with a biodiverse seed mix,

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including grasses, flowers, and shrubs.

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Improve watering conditions to support

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the establishment of these plants. and

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look honestly at why two parks in the

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worst shape are at Arvvada's

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jurisdictional boundaries. Every council

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member will be receiving the full photo

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packet tonight, as well as examples of

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native garden implementation done right.

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Please look at these photos and I urge

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you to communicate with residents as to

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what and when we can expect from our

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park and our city moving forward. Thank

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you.

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>> Thank you.

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Next, I sorry we do not applause during

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public comment. I'm sorry. Uh, next I

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have Andrea Perkins.

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» Hi everybody. Thank you for your time.

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Um, I don't have a lot prepared, but I

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really just wanted to echo everything

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that Karen said. Um, I've been a

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resident um, of Arlington Meadows um,

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for eight years and I've walked my dog

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there twice a day pretty much every day

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the entire time. And I have also seen a

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rapid decline of the park in the last

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year and I completely understand that

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we're in a drought and totally sensitive

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to that. Um I also work as a volunteer

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um with the CSU extension um and I have

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dealt with um a lot of concerns from

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people across um Adams County um about

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their lawns. Um and the first thing that

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I do when I um have somebody questioning

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me about that is um asking them about

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what their irrigation looks like. um and

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what their um what their schedule is for

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watering. Um because a lot of the times

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that is most likely the problem. Um and

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in tennis and park and walking there um

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every day I've noticed that the

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sprinkler systems are spraying on the on

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the um tennis courts and on the cement

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pavement um which is a clear waste of

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water. So I would ask you as the council

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members to consider at the very least

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please auditing the usage of the water

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um in Tennyson and Nolles Park and all

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of the parks in Arvvada would be a great

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step if we're really taking drought

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seriously. Um the best way to do that is

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to take a look at exactly how everything

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is being watered. Um because a lot of

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the times it looks like it's getting

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covered and it might not actually be

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getting covered. So, um, that's that's

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my um that's my ask and I hope that

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you'll consider it and thank you for

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your time.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Next, I have Karen Usray.

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Members of city council, Karen Usray. I

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live in the Scenic Heights neighborhood

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near the Majestic View Park and I'm here

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tonight to ask you to reconsider the

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decision to terminate Frontline

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Farming's lease at Majestic View and

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importantly to pause the city's newly

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issued request for proposals seeking

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another farming organization to take

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over the land. As a resident of the

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Scenic Heights neighborhood surrounding

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Majestic View, I've seen firsthand the

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value of frontline farming brings to

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this community. They are a bipok

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woman-owned farmer advocacy organization

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that has created opportunities for

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people to connect with farming, food

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justice, education, and one another.

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They have invested years of work into

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this space and have become a valued part

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of our community. I understand that

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there's been a breakdown of

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collaboration between frontline farming

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and new leadership at Majestic View.

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Concerns about communication and

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decision-making deserve to be addressed

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and the reports of discriminator

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discriminatory treatment are deeply

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troubling and deserve to be heard and

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meaning meaningfully examined. But

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terminating the lease and replacing

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frontline farming should not be the

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first or only solution. What concerns me

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most is that the city has now issued an

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RFP for another organization to take

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over the land. that moves the city from

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resolving a conflict to effectively

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replacing a community organization

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before all reasonable efforts to repair

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the relationship have been exhausted. If

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the problem is a breakdown in

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collaboration, bringing in a new

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organization does not necessarily solve

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that problem. It simply displaces an

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organization that has already built

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relationships, programs, and community

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trust at Majestic View. I'm asking the

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council to pause this process and ask

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some basic questions. Have all

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reasonable efforts been made to repair

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this relationship? Could facilitated

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conversations, mediation, clearer

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expectations, or a revised agreement

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address the concerns? And has the

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community been given a meaningful

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opportunity to help determine the future

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of this space?

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Once another organization is selected

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through the RFP, it becomes much harder

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to find a path back for frontline

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farming. So, I believe the city should

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pause before creating an outcome that

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may be difficult or impossible to

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reverse. This is a bigger than a lease.

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It's about whether the city values the

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community relationships and investment

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that have already been built at Majestic

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View. I respectfully ask city council to

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pause the RFP and reconsider the lease

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termination and work and to work in good

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faith with frontline farming, Majestic

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View leadership and the community to

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find a solution that allows frontline

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farming to remain. Please don't let this

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breakdown and collaboration become a

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reason for displacement. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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Next I have Rainer Gerbach.

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May I one request before I start. We're

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five speaker talking about an amendment

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which will be on the ballot this year in

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November. Amendment 83.

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Uh if at all possible like to maintain

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the sequence myself, Karen, my wife, uh

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and Katsburg

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um Ed Yevak and uh Vincent Parker and

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number them one, two, three, and five.

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>> Yes.

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>> Thank you.

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Good evening. Uh Mayor PM members of

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this council. I'm Rhina Gerbage. I live

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in Nevada and Geos. I recently sent you

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a briefing on amendment 83, the

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constitutional right to hunt. I ask you

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to do one thing Colorado law allows.

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Adapt the resolution opposing it. The

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title says hunt and fish. This is not a

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hunting debate. It is about governance,

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the city council's own authority.

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The amendment is aimed at bodies like

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this one. Hunting and fishing are

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already legal in Colorado. So amendment

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83 protects no risk, no right at risk.

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It aims to override local rules that

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stand in the way. Luke Hilgman of the

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international order of Theodore

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Roosevelt, former CEO of the Cockroths

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Americans for Prosperity is clear. The

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real power is quote residents setting

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barriers quotation and and quotation

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overreach by city councils and state

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wildlife commissions quotation end.

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Second, the bill would land on this

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city. The measure is built on undefined

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words, preferred means, necess

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necessities

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that only one court can define. The

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state's own fiscal note says the cost

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will rise by an amount it cannot

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estimate. And when a local rule is

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challenged, the city defends it on its

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own budget.

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Third and last, it is permanent and it

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puts the fix beyond local reach. It is

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constitutional amendment written by a

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political committee tied to the Cau

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network and to Donald J. Trump Jr. with

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about 86% of out of state funding not by

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our legislator legislature and not with

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no involvement of the city council.

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Avada had no voice in it. When it is in

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the constitution and if it's if it harms

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the city, no local ordinance and no act

586
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of the legislature can undo it. Only

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another statewide ballot campaign can.

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time and money will be spent. Future

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rules this council could adapt as

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conditions change would instead be

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locked beyond your reach. The

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constitution protects fundamental

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liberties. It should not lock into a

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favorite pastime. This is not about

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taking sides on hunting. It's about

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whether this council keeps the authority

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to protect its residents. This council

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can weigh in. Colorado law expressly

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allows it. and silence only lets it lets

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a distant out of state campaign narrow

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the city's authority on oppo opposed and

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Nevada would not act alone. One city's

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resolution is a statement but Colorado

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cities and counties speaking together

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through the municipal league are a force

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that cannot be ignored and can lead it.

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My ask adopt a resolution opposing this

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amendment now and carry it to the league

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and the Colorado Association of

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Counties. This council should not

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surrender local authority without being

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heard. Thank you. Karen will now

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continue on the uh amendment

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discussions.

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>> Thank you. Yes, Karen Gerbach is next.

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» Hi, I'm Karen Gerbach and I live in

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Arvvada. You just heard my husband speak

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about what 80 amendment 83 would do to

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this community's ability to respond. Um

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this is a little personal for me. I when

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we lived in New Jersey, someone was

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practicing their firearm and they shot

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out my dining room window. He had severe

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consequences because none of that was

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allowed. Amendment 83 would change that

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here. Um I live in GIOS and there's 14

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empty acres across the Rston Creek and

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Creek Trail and I occasionally hear what

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I think are gunshots, but I'm not

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absolutely sure. But it seems that this

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could um

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this could amendment 83 could allow that

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to continue closer to where I live

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because we have coyotes and they're on

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the golf course and there's many

636
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critters that live in the area.

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So if the constitution makes hunting the

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preferred means of managing wildlife, a

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community could lose like our could lose

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00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,279
the power to keep it away from

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neighborhoods. Legal experts say the

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question is unsettled, which means years

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of litigation.

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Our open spaces are shared by hikers,

645
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families, and neighbors whose homes back

646
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,559
up to these spaces. Hunting is one use

647
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among many. It should not be given a

648
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constitutional status that outweighs

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everyone else's safety.

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So, I'm not here to attack hunting or

651
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hunters. I'm here because keeping

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residents safe is a responsibility of

653
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,960
city council and amendment 83 would

654
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challenge your authority to do it. It's

655
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not hyperbole, it's precedent once it

656
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,279
reaches our streets and safety is

657
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,080
squarely your job. This has happened in

658
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,520
other states and they've regretted it.

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Colorado lets you take a position by

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00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,520
resolution and we ask you to do that.

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Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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Next we have Ann Katsburg.

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» Good evening, council. My name is Anne

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Katsburg. I'm a resident of Arvvada and

666
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I want to talk to you about money and

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why amendment 83 could put a bill on

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your desk and on Colorado taxpayers.

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Hunting and fishing are already legal

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here and they're regulated like driving,

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a licensed privilege that the state can

672
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condition to keep people safe. However,

673
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amendment 83 does the opposite. It

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freezes hunting in the Constitution as a

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preferred right. And the moment that you

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write a recreation into the

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Constitution, you invite the courts in,

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which is where that cost begins. When a

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00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,000
city makes a local decision about

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hunting or firearm discharge, this

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00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:30,320
amendment could be invoked to challenge

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it. And your government could find

683
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880
itself defending that decision in court

684
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,480
on its own budget. Colorado's own fiscal

685
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200
analysis warns that parks and wildlife

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will need more legal advice and face

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increased litigation if wildlife rules

688
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:50,080
are challenged. And it puts no limit on

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00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,880
those costs. And what does an open-ended

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constitutional fight cost? Colorado's

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decadel long lawsuit over the

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taxpayers's bill of rights has cost

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about half a million dollars to defend

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over 10 years.

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And because amendment 83 sets a new

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constitutional standard, it invites

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repeated litigation over wildlife rules.

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This is not a hypothetical. Hunting and

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trapping groups are already currently

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threatening to sue Colorado over its new

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00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,080
lower furbearer bag limits today only on

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,640
procedural grounds. Amendment 83 would

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hand them a constitutional weapon

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00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120
against that limit and against local

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00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,919
ordinance. Those bills fall on parks and

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00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:36,080
wildlife on the attorney general. And

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when local ordinance ordinance

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00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120
ordinances are challenged on cities like

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00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760
ours, every dollar defending vague

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00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,320
constitutional language is a dollar that

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00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,880
is spent on wildlife,

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,679
not spent on wildlife or public safety.

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And our attorney general has done more

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than pay that bill. AG Phil Wiser and

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00:31:56,399 --> 00:31:58,399
candidate for governor opposes amendment

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83, warning that disputes over wildlife

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00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,799
policy should be settled through

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00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,600
dialogue, listening, and collaboration,

719
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,600
not through constitutional amendments,

720
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,600
courtrooms, and lawsuits. When the

721
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,440
state's top lawyer says this measure

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leads to a court, a council defending

723
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,200
its own ordinances should listen. The

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,279
state says the cost will rise but cannot

725
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,600
say how high. A warning, not a

726
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,440
reassurance. But this is not only a

727
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440
cost. It is a challenge to your

728
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,279
authority with the when with the bill

729
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,760
attached. Every local decision dragged

730
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,039
into a court is a decision that a judge,

731
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,840
not this council, may end up making

732
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,000
protecting Arvvada's authority to decide

733
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,760
without a lawsuit hanging over. Each

734
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,240
choice is a reason enough to adopt a

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00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,600
resolution opposing amendment 83. Thank

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you.

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00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,480
>> Thank you.

738
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Next we have Ed

739
00:32:51,200 --> 00:33:03,029
Yak.

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00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,200
» Good evening council. My name is Ed

741
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360
Yeec. I'm a resident of Arvvada for the

742
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,000
last 30 years. I want to point out to

743
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880
one word missing from amendment 83 and

744
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960
to what its absence means for this

745
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,519
council's authority. This measure is

746
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,840
titled as a right to hunt and fish. Read

747
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
it and you will not find the word

748
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,880
trapping anywhere. But in Colorado law,

749
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,000
hunt is defined to include trapping. So

750
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,960
a constitutional right to hunt reach

751
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,240
reaches trapping too by legal definition

752
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,440
without ever saying so. Most voters mark

753
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,600
marking a ballot for a right to hunt and

754
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,399
fish would have no idea that they are

755
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:45,200
writing trapping into the constitution.

756
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,880
This silence matters because Colorado's

757
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Coloradoans have already spoken on

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00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,159
trapping. In 1996, a majority of voters

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00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,559
amended the same constitution to ban

760
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,679
cruel traps, legoleold traps, body

761
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:03,120
gripping traps, and snares. A amendment

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00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,000
83 protects undefined traditional

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00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,240
methods. And the oldest of these are

764
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,359
exactly the traps voters banned. If we

765
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:14,079
could place the two pro provisions in

766
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,480
conflict and let the courts, not the

767
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,440
voters, decide which wins, which is why

768
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,760
this should concern the council. A

769
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,520
measure that reaches further than its

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00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,399
title admits, can override a choice the

771
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:28,879
people have already made. That same

772
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:31,200
hidden court-driven reach is what could

773
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,159
be turned on's own rules. Your fire

774
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,119
disarn discharge ordinances, your

775
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,919
decisions about parks and open spaces

776
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:42,320
challenged on a constitutional basis the

777
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,440
voters never saw and settled by a judge.

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What can be done quietly to a state

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00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,320
fightwide vote can be done quietly to a

780
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,839
city. This is the pattern this measure

781
00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:56,079
sets. It moves decisions away from the

782
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,000
people and their local government and

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00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,440
into the c courts using language most

784
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,400
voters will never decode. Hunting and

785
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,560
fishing are not at risk in Colorado.

786
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,040
They legal and regulated. This measure

787
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440
does not protect them. What it does is

788
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,800
bury a far legal reach into trapping

789
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,440
into a settled public choice and into

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00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,599
the authority of bodies like this one

791
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,960
under a reassuring title. Colorado law

792
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,079
lets this council take a position. I ask

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00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,160
you adopt a resolution opposing

794
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,880
amendment 83 and to carry it to the

795
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Colorado Municipal League and the

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,280
Colorado Association of Counties.

797
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,599
Protecting our VAT's authority to decide

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00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,160
for itself, for its residents is reason

799
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,400
enough to act and you would not be

800
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,400
alone. Thank you very much for your

801
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,200
time.

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00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:56,310
>> Thank you. Next, I have Vincent Parker.

803
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,760
Good evening, council. My name is

804
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Vincent Parker, resident of Arvvada. I

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00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,440
want to tell you about a small town in

806
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,760
Tennessee, Sweetwater, because what is

807
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,599
happening there is what the future

808
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:08,640
amendment 83 would bring to Colorado.

809
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Sweetwater has an ordinance this this

810
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040
council would recognize, no discharging

811
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firearms within city limits, a basic

812
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,320
public safety rule. Last year, six men

813
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,160
went duck hunting on private land inside

814
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,800
those limits and fired their shotguns.

815
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They cited, the city cited them. A

816
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200
municipal court convicted them. A higher

817
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200
court upheld it. That should have ended

818
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
it. A city enforcing its own safety

819
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,480
ordinance. It did not. Tennessee, like

820
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,200
what amendment 83 proposes here, has a

821
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right to hunt written into its

822
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,200
constitution, supported by Global Safari

823
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,440
Club International, a backer of

824
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,839
amendment 83 and Tennessee Wildlife

825
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:48,079
Federation, the two the hunters

826
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,320
appealed, the two that the hunters

827
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,400
appealed, arguing that state authorized

828
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,960
hunting overrides the city ordinance.

829
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Their argument, a city cannot ban lawful

830
00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:58,720
hunting through a local firearms

831
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,920
ordinance. Otherwise, they warned, towns

832
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,920
could nullify state authorized hunting

833
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,800
just by passing discharge rules. And

834
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,119
their movement is open about the goal.

835
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:10,480
The executive director of the group

836
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,960
behind amendment 83 has written that

837
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040
these amendments real power is the

838
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,520
precedent setting barriers they create

839
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640
against overreach by city councils and

840
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,280
provide a lock on the door against

841
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,000
future wildlife policy changes. In their

842
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,040
own words, the target is councils like

843
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,960
this one. And here is the part this

844
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,040
council should not miss. Tennessee's

845
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,560
governor then signed a law stripping

846
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,640
cities of the power to act against

847
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,440
hunters discharging firearms within city

848
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839
limits, a local safety ordinance

849
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:45,280
overridden from the state state capital.

850
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,320
This is not far away. Colorado

851
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,839
communities already restrict gunfire

852
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:52,079
near homes. Boulder County limited

853
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,480
recreational shooting near the Sugarloaf

854
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,320
neighborhood after about after safety

855
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,800
concerns. Arvvada has its own discharge

856
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,359
rules. Amendment 83 would put a hunting

857
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:04,000
right in our constitution, the very tool

858
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,400
used against Sweetwater, and hand it to

859
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
the same groups funding the campaign.

860
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,400
That is why local government cannot sit

861
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,480
this one out. Sweetwater's council did

862
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,800
not go looking for this fight. It came

863
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520
to them through their own ordinance.

864
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,359
Colorado law lets this council take a

865
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:22,400
position now before it comes here. So, I

866
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,599
ask you to adopt a resolution opposing

867
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:26,160
amendment [clears throat]

868
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,960
83 and to carry it to the Colorado

869
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Municipal League and the Colorado

870
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,720
Association of Counties, where our VA's

871
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,040
voice joins other cities and grows

872
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,000
harder to ignore. Whatever our views on

873
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,040
hunting, I hope we can agree on this.

874
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,119
Power to decide where firearms may be

875
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,839
fired near our homes should stay with

876
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:48,480
this council, not be written out of it

877
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040
by a constitutional amendment. Thank

878
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,079
you. Thank you.

879
00:38:54,079 --> 00:39:16,069
Next I have Robert Slay.

880
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:20,000
Good evening. Mayor Pro Tim and city

881
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,040
council. Um, I want to start by saying

882
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,440
that I understand why the city chose to

883
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,359
regulate short-term rentals instead of

884
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:30,880
banning them. I've looked into this and

885
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,800
cities that tried outright bans found

886
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,400
that the rentals didn't disappear. They

887
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,000
just went underground with no tax

888
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,240
revenue and no oversight.

889
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,960
Cities that overregulated got sued,

890
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
sometimes lost. And by the time most

891
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,920
cities acted, thousands of their own

892
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000
residents already had a financial stake

893
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480
in this. So I'm not here tonight to

894
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,800
pretend that history doesn't exist or

895
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,720
that this was an easy problem with an

896
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,839
obvious answer. But understanding why a

897
00:39:57,839 --> 00:39:59,760
choice was made doesn't mean the people

898
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,520
living next door to the result don't pay

899
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,079
a real price. One of your own colleagues

900
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,720
said it plainly at a January study

901
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,280
session. This is a top complaint from

902
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,880
constituents.

903
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,720
People dealing with party houses,

904
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,200
dealing with trash. Two residents told

905
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,720
that council member they moved because

906
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,280
of it. That's not a hypothetical. That's

907
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,280
Arvvada.

908
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,280
And it's not unique to us. In Dallas, a

909
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,040
mother washed her street turn into what

910
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,800
she called the Bourbon Street on Marty

911
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,359
Gro. Uh, three bullet holes in the

912
00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:31,520
Reynolds front front door 40 steps from

913
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,920
where kids play

914
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
in Long in Long Beach. A man was chased

915
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,839
across his own lawn and shot at right in

916
00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:39,520
front of his porch by someone connected

917
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,079
to the Airbnb next door. These aren't

918
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,240
rare exceptions dreamed up to scare you.

919
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:45,839
They're what happens when a park

920
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:48,720
property has no one responsible actually

921
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,839
living there. No one to know and no one

922
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:56,400
to care what happens on a given weekend.

923
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,240
Cities that have made real progress on

924
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,160
this didn't just ask for something to be

925
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,440
done. They ask for something specific.

926
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,560
So am I. Nevada proposed owner occupancy

927
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,720
back in 2018.

928
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,839
Staff recommended it again in 2020. The

929
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:13,440
planning commission voted for it in

930
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,040
2019. It fell one vote short at this

931
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,599
council in this room seven years ago and

932
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,839
nobody's brought it back since. And it's

933
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:23,520
important.

934
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,640
I'm asking you to bring it back. Not

935
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,119
because it's untested, because our VA

936
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:30,960
already tried it, already believed in

937
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680
it, and let it go by a single vote.

938
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,280
That's not radical. That's finishing

939
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,200
what this city has already started.

940
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,240
Thank you.

941
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,510
>> Thank you.

942
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:52,870
» Next, I have Francesco Vasali.

943
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,880
Evening, council members. Uh, I'm here

944
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,359
to discuss the proposal or wherever it's

945
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:00,400
at with the paid parking in Oldtown. Um,

946
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,560
I wanted to ask you guys reconsider this

947
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,480
or at least uh slow down the process so

948
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,400
more people can comment on it. I know

949
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,560
there's been some discussion about it.

950
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,520
Um, in particular, when I looked at what

951
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,319
the council has published, uh, I agree

952
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:16,160
that we could be making better use of

953
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,560
the RTD garage. I believe one of the

954
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,000
ways that we could do that is to add

955
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,079
more signs in the high parked in

956
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,920
streets, uh, indicating where people

957
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400
should go. I live in Arvvada on Otis

958
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Street. I love to invite my friends from

959
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,160
Denver and the other surrounding towns

960
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,000
to come hang out in Oldtown. I think

961
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000
that's very good for our businesses. Uh

962
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,599
I know my friends would not enjoy it if

963
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,280
there was no parking, but they know that

964
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,280
the RTD garage is there and I make that

965
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,520
easy for them. Uh obviously not everyone

966
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,200
who comes to our town knows about this.

967
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,520
Uh I think even people who do see it

968
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,800
don't necessarily know that it's

969
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,160
basically free. Uh so just a sign or two

970
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,240
would definitely help uh raise

971
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,960
awareness. Um I wanted to specifically

972
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,160
discuss one of the stats that the mayor

973
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,800
uh has discussed which was that there's

974
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,280
about 92% uh parking occupancy and uh I

975
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,520
believe it was also said that any

976
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,560
parking occupancy exceeding 85% should

977
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,480
be regulated. Um I I really don't think

978
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,000
that's true. Uh I think that's a sales

979
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,920
uh tactic from Park Mobile and some of

980
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,400
the other firms. Uh, I went on quite a

981
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,319
goose chase finding out where this 85%

982
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:26,560
number comes from. Uh, if you Google

983
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,280
that, you might find a 2014 paper by

984
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,680
Arnet on the optimal parking target of

985
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,920
curbside parking occupancy rate.

986
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,359
Unfortunately, he provides no evidence

987
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:36,960
for this because he's just borrowing a

988
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,520
number from Shupe's 1999 paper. So, I

989
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,000
read Shup's 1999 paper, which references

990
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,160
the uh textbook, the parking of motor

991
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,240
vehicles, published in 1972.

992
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,000
Unfortunately, this textbook is $2,000.

993
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,920
So, I was not able to acquire it. I

994
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,800
sincerely doubt that the mayor or anyone

995
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,480
on our council has acquired this book

996
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960
either. Um, with some more reading of

997
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,800
these papers, uh, I was able to find

998
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,560
that the claim is actually originally

999
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,480
made in Vicer's 1995 paper, uh, where he

1000
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,359
remarked that about 15% vacancy seems

1001
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:09,599
right. Um, there's no evidence to

1002
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,839
support that. In the same paper, he also

1003
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:14,319
mentioned that possibly five, this is a

1004
00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:16,319
quote, possibly five to seven spaces is

1005
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,079
about as many as can conveniently be

1006
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:22,079
controlled by one meter. Um, I don't

1007
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:23,760
think Arvvada's parking policy should be

1008
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,599
inspired or even remotely based on

1009
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,880
unsubstantiated claims from 1955. Uh, if

1010
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,359
we want to talk about what the real uh

1011
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:34,160
datadriven motivations are for this, I

1012
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,200
think that would be great and I think

1013
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,480
that should be clearly communicated to

1014
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,160
the people. Please do not site

1015
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,800
statistics like 85% with no source on

1016
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,960
your municipal website as it currently

1017
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,200
is. So, thank you.

1018
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680
>> Thank you.

1019
00:44:47,680 --> 00:45:00,550
>> Next, I have Tim Hall.

1020
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,800
I'd like to thank the uh council for

1021
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
your hard work and your dedication to

1022
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,760
what you do.

1023
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Today we hear a couple of thoughts

1024
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,040
spoken with confidence and conviction

1025
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,280
that blatantly contradict what the Bible

1026
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,800
teaches.

1027
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,880
So if one asserts something that is

1028
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,160
contrary to scripture,

1029
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,720
what does one believe? Does one believe

1030
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,880
what the person says or what the holy

1031
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,720
book states?

1032
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,599
Often we hear the phrase, "We are all

1033
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:33,599
God's children."

1034
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,839
It sounds reasonable since the Bible

1035
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:37,599
proclaims that God created men and

1036
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,760
women. Even though God created humanity,

1037
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,880
the Bible does not say he created them as his children.

1038
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,160
In the garden, Eve doubted God and

1039
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,800
swallowed the serpent's lie. She

1040
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,119
disobeyed God's instruction not to eat

1041
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,400
the forbidden fruit. Eve herself being

1042
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,240
deceived convinced Adam to eat as well

1043
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,640
because of their disobedience.

1044
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,079
God being just and holy cannot remain in

1045
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:11,040
the presence of sinful injustice.

1046
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920
In fact, he is righteous and angry at

1047
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,240
such disobedience.

1048
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,119
When the first couple sinned, it upset

1049
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,760
the apple cart and created a chasm

1050
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,160
between God and man.

1051
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,160
Every person born after Adam and Eve is

1052
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,119
irrevocably changed and estranged from

1053
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:35,280
God and separated from him. He or she is

1054
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,240
not a child.

1055
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:41,040
This leads to the second thought which

1056
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,240
is contrary to what the Bible says. Most

1057
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,920
people believe that everyone is

1058
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,880
basically good. that if we do the right

1059
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,960
things for people and treat them with

1060
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,319
the right respect and value and insert

1061
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:57,280
them into our community system, they

1062
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,440
will reach their full potential because

1063
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,520
that person is good at the core of his

1064
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,280
being.

1065
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,319
The Bible doesn't say that. The Bible

1066
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:09,520
says people are not good. Scripture says

1067
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,920
in the book of Romans, there is none

1068
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,680
righteous, not even one. There is no one

1069
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,319
who understands. There is no one who

1070
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:23,119
seeks for God. All have turned aside.

1071
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:26,000
Those are dire words. Men and women are

1072
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,440
born into sin and their sin separates

1073
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,920
them from God. No one is innately good.

1074
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,640
But God in his mercy sent Christ, the

1075
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,839
perfect God man to the world to shed his

1076
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:44,079
blood to purify and forgive those people

1077
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:47,839
who trust in him to save them. When a

1078
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:51,359
person makes this request in dependent

1079
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:55,119
faith to believe in Jesus as his Lord

1080
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:59,359
and Savior at that time he becomes a

1081
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:03,440
child of God and that is good.

1082
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,440
something to think about.

1083
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,920
>> Thank you.

1084
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:17,430
Next, I have Diana Middlestat.

1085
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,560
Sierra Vista for 35

1086
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,720
years. I want to talk about short-term

1087
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,640
rentals, STRs. The reality is that STRs

1088
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,559
are businesses operating in our

1089
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:31,359
neighborhoods, not zoned for businesses.

1090
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:34,640
Many are unlicensed. Instead of our once

1091
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,440
friendly, quiet, joyful family sounds,

1092
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,599
we get loud drinking swimming pool

1093
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,480
parties from people who do not respect

1094
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,599
our residents. We have four STRs within

1095
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,240
two blocks. Two within a block in

1096
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,640
different directions, one within two

1097
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,319
blocks across the street from an

1098
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:54,480
elementary school. Can this really be

1099
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,599
safe? One within a half a block down the

1100
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,480
green belt from my home. This STR is the

1101
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,119
one I want to focus on. The noise levels

1102
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:05,920
are so loud in the summertime that we

1103
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,800
can hardly be in our black backyard. The

1104
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,480
noise coming from this STR is buil and

1105
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,880
the house is called party house. The

1106
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,359
party house even has a neon light on the

1107
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:19,520
wall in the living room which says

1108
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,119
party. We understand it is that this

1109
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,359
house was purchased by an outofstate

1110
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:27,599
investor and that the investor has at

1111
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:31,200
least one other STR in our neighborhood.

1112
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,839
There's many problems. Delivery trucks

1113
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:36,160
coming and going bringing more food and

1114
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,880
alcoholic beverages. Loud music and

1115
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,079
voices that does not stop. Trash is

1116
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,400
stacked up which may or may not be

1117
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,119
removed. Additional cars parked in the

1118
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,680
streets. many times six or more coming

1119
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,599
and going and a very loud air

1120
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,440
conditioner which I think they finally

1121
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,599
fixed. Yes, we can call on this STR and

1122
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,760
others in our neighborhood, but why do

1123
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,760
we have to live our lives policing

1124
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,559
people who do not live in our community?

1125
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,040
Party House and most of the other STRs

1126
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,640
have walled off the garage for

1127
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,119
additional sleeping. Party House is

1128
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:14,559
advertised for 16 plus guests. I believe

1129
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:18,319
Arvvada limits it 212 to 14. What are

1130
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:21,280
the fire codes? Are they monitored?

1131
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Also, are we going to get a gunshot

1132
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,720
sensor? On August 30th, 6:23 a.m. 6 to

1133
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,359
eight gunshots were fired. The police

1134
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:34,000
could not confirm or find the source.

1135
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,960
They had to spend their valuable time

1136
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,440
driving the neighborhood. I did tell the

1137
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,359
police that it appeared to me that the

1138
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:43,440
shots came from the direction of party

1139
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,920
house. Interesting enough, there were

1140
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,559
guys partying the night before who left

1141
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,440
the house around the time of the shots.

1142
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,839
Please do your job and help us to have a

1143
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:56,319
strong community neighborhood of

1144
00:50:56,319 --> 00:50:59,440
constructive citizens. Please help grow

1145
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,480
our schools with families, not parties.

1146
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,200
Fort Collins has a great model for

1147
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,400
limiting STRs. I know you've heard many

1148
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,920
negative facts on STRs, but I and my our

1149
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,839
neighbors would like for you to know our

1150
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:16,079
property values are going down, but

1151
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,559
property taxes are increasing. It's not

1152
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:21,359
fun living with event centers. Please

1153
00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:23,760
help us when you discuss this in

1154
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,119
November meeting on STRs. Thank you.

1155
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,520
>> Thank you.

1156
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:39,750
Next, I have Patty Shannon.

1157
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,960
Good evening, Mayor Prom and council

1158
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,720
members. My name is Patty Shannon from

1159
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,119
West Arvvada.

1160
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:48,079
I'm [clears throat] here tonight

1161
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:49,760
regarding the proposed land development

1162
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,319
code amendment for Proposition 123

1163
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:54,880
projects. I understand the city's

1164
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,440
obligation to establish a fasttrack

1165
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,280
process and reach a final decision on

1166
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,200
qualifying affordable housing projects

1167
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,731
within 90 days.

1168
00:52:03,731 --> 00:52:04,480
>> [clears throat and cough]

1169
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,880
>> But faster review should not have to

1170
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,400
mean less thorough review or eliminating

1171
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520
the public's opportunity to be heard.

1172
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,440
The staff report says that because the

1173
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,760
conditional use process typically takes

1174
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,520
more than 90 days due to public

1175
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,000
hearings, the proposed solution is to

1176
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000
eliminate the conditional use

1177
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,119
requirements for qualifying projects.

1178
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,359
I respectfully ask you to consider a

1179
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:32,559
different solution before that 90-day

1180
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:36,160
clock begins. Require a truly complete

1181
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,680
application

1182
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,599
for a large development that could

1183
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,960
include a thorough traffic impact study,

1184
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,960
emergency access and evacuation

1185
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,480
analysis, fire and safety review,

1186
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,240
infrastructure information, and the

1187
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,640
other studies necessary to understand

1188
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,480
how that development will affect the

1189
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,760
surrounding community. then establish an

1190
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,160
expedited schedule that [clears throat]

1191
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,160
allows staff review, public notice,

1192
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,559
public hearing, and a final decision

1193
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,920
within the required 90 days. We know how

1194
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,599
important this can be because we just

1195
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,520
experienced it with the proposed Avalon

1196
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,920
development at Welby Gardens. During

1197
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,480
that process, residents, Morning Star

1198
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,119
senior living residents and others

1199
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:20,880
brought forward significant concerns

1200
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,920
involving traffic, emergency access,

1201
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,400
evacuation, environmental conditions,

1202
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,839
and impacts on the surrounding

1203
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:29,599
neighborhoods.

1204
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,680
Imagine essentially the same development

1205
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,839
being proposed at that location, but

1206
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:37,040
with at least 50% affordable units.

1207
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Under this proposed amendment, the table

1208
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,960
changes qualifying projects in th these

1209
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,599
mixeduse districts from conditional to

1210
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,559
allowed with an administrative process

1211
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:50,160
only.

1212
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,000
The affordability of the apartments

1213
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,319
would change, but the traffic wouldn't

1214
00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:56,559
disappear, the evacuation issues

1215
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,960
wouldn't disappear, the safety concerns

1216
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,280
wouldn't disappear, and the neighboring

1217
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,240
residents wouldn't disappear.

1218
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:07,680
Proposition 123 requires the city to

1219
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,800
make these decision decisions faster.

1220
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,200
That should not mean making them with

1221
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,760
less information or without hearing from

1222
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,559
the people who will be directly affected

1223
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:20,800
before permanently removing the

1224
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,680
conditional use process. Please ask

1225
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,160
staff and the city attorney to determine

1226
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,880
whether we can instead require the

1227
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,599
necessary studies as part of a complete

1228
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:34,400
application and preserve a meaningful

1229
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,480
public hearing within the 90-day

1230
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,359
process. We can support affordable

1231
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:42,480
housing, meet the 90-day requirement,

1232
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,440
and preserve the public's voice. These

1233
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,599
goals should not be mutually exclusive.

1234
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,920
>> Thank you very much.

1235
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920
And the last person I have signed up is

1236
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,349
Mike Rollik.

1237
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:59,119
» Good evening, Mayor Roam and Council.

1238
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,599
Thanks for uh this amazing move on this

1239
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:04,559
data center moratorum discussion. Um I

1240
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,640
think definitions do matter. You very

1241
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,559
complete definition here. I'm happy to

1242
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:11,119
see the 10 kilowatts or megawatts sorry

1243
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,839
the comp park um facility down in Parker

1244
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:16,640
22 and a half 16 large cooling units

1245
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,599
that are actually bigger than

1246
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:20,079
semi-trucks. So 10 megawatt seems to be

1247
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,720
a very very good line of demarcation.

1248
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:26,000
However, in the um in the definition I

1249
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,559
think um regionally it would be a good

1250
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,000
idea to also mention something about

1251
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,920
quantum because quantum is not always

1252
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,640
AI. It is not always uh data hosting,

1253
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,880
cloud computing or support for AI.

1254
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,880
Quantum computing and the data center

1255
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,800
then now what's next from Kevin Miller

1256
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,079
goes through a host of different

1257
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:43,680
situations where data centers and

1258
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,119
quantum computing can live in the same

1259
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,599
world. Hybrid computers, the norm, not

1260
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,000
the exception. It says here, um, this

1261
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,440
gentleman is a regional data center

1262
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,280
director, so he he's definitely in the

1263
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,880
business. Quantum computers don't work

1264
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,799
in isolation, though. Every cubit has a

1265
00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:59,040
classical entourage. This is much more

1266
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,440
like a traditional data center. Control

1267
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,559
devices, DAC's, timing systems, and such

1268
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:06,480
must sit nearby and drive and read the

1269
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,400
quantum processor. They sit in a cold

1270
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,000
control room adjacent to the quantum

1271
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,240
zone or cooled with either air or direct

1272
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,079
to chip liquid in the reg as in a

1273
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,000
regular data center. And he goes on to

1274
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,839
talk about more similar similarities

1275
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:20,000
between quantum and data center. Now

1276
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,079
quantum can be used for drug discovery,

1277
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:23,599
material science, financial risk

1278
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,760
analysis, cryptography, right? There's a

1279
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,680
lot of things that aren't traditionally

1280
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,079
AI. So I understand we have quantum

1281
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,559
commons coming up, but it is a a

1282
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,400
potential security thing. He mentioned

1283
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,599
security here as well, and this is

1284
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:37,280
something I had thought about. Lastly,

1285
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,960
these systems aren't just sensitive,

1286
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,359
they're also valuable. quantum IP is

1287
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:43,280
gold dust and the machines themselves

1288
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
are unique, fragile and irreplaceable.

1289
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,520
So security is natural take taken

1290
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,520
extremely seriously and he says about

1291
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,040
his blog 10 years ago um it says if

1292
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,599
something about a cracking a48 bit

1293
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:57,280
cipher in next to no time and re-encode

1294
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,880
in a truly unbreakable manner that's

1295
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,920
something that we're concerned with

1296
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,319
right now with banking and and crypto

1297
00:57:02,319 --> 00:57:04,880
and how this might be able to break all

1298
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,880
normal cryptography if that becomes a

1299
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,799
truism and he goes on the necessity for

1300
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:10,319
security are pretty clear so both

1301
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:12,079
private companies governments and

1302
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:13,680
militaries alike are investing in

1303
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,960
fortress-like security far in excess of

1304
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,040
that in most other classical facilities

1305
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,319
and that becomes a land use

1306
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:21,680
consideration as well. If you're looking

1307
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,880
at security, if you're looking at

1308
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,880
setbacks, if you're higher walls,

1309
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,920
whatever that you'd have to do,

1310
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,319
security, cameras, privacy, noise,

1311
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:30,400
things like that, I would just ask that

1312
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,960
maybe data centers could include the

1313
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,799
quantum world as well. But thank you for

1314
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:37,280
this amazing move. Thanks so much.

1315
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,160
>> Thank you. Um, I have no one else signed

1316
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,720
up. Is there anyone in the room who

1317
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,720
would like to speak before council this

1318
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,240
evening?

1319
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,920
Okay, seeing none, I will close the

1320
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,599
public comment period. Um, as we close

1321
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:56,000
that, um, city manager Wick, um, we've

1322
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,440
heard some comments about short-term

1323
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,799
rentals. I didn't know if you wanted to

1324
00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:00,880
share some information about folks can

1325
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,599
report those concerns, um, on our

1326
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:09,030
website.

1327
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,880
» Yes. So, I'm going to have Jessica

1328
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,640
Garner speak to that. She's been working

1329
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,359
directly on this.

1330
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,119
>> Great. I appreciate that. Thank you.

1331
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,040
>> Um, [clears throat] excuse me. I'm not

1332
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,319
quite sure. Folks are welcome to submit

1333
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:22,079
ask to ask Arvvada if they have any

1334
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,290
concerns about short-term rentals.

1335
00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:25,119
[clears throat and cough] Excuse me, I

1336
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:27,280
have a cold. Sorry, I'm a little froggy.

1337
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Um, I also that we also have an online

1338
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,520
link to Granicus. If anybody has any

1339
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,760
concerns about what's happening with a

1340
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,920
short-term rental, please utilize that

1341
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,240
opportunity. There is a live person that

1342
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,400
will take your call. You can also submit

1343
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,480
an email with any concerns. We do have

1344
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,799
requirements that the property owner has

1345
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:49,359
to respond within an hour um or the

1346
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,359
reporting party. So that we are

1347
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:52,960
requiring that in order to maintain

1348
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,520
those short-term licenses. And we will

1349
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,920
be talking about short-term rentals in a

1350
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,359
workshop with the council. I believe

1351
00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:01,520
it's on December 8th. We wanted to wait

1352
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,280
a full six months until the ordinance

1353
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,359
had actually had some time and that

1354
00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:07,200
would have fallen in November. So, we

1355
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,799
were as soon as we could. We got it

1356
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:10,160
scheduled in December. We'll talk more

1357
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:10,960
about it then.

1358
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,160
>> Thank you. I look forward to that

1359
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,000
conversation and appreciate you stepping

1360
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,880
in tonight to to share that information.

1361
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,720
All right. Uh, next is the consent

1362
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,720
agenda. The following items are on the

1363
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,040
consent agenda for approval. We have

1364
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,440
R26-069,

1365
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,359
a resolution authorizing a second

1366
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:28,960
amendment to the intergovernmental

1367
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,200
agreement by and between the urban

1368
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,920
drainage and flood control district DBA

1369
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,400
mile high flood district and the city of

1370
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Arvvada regarding design and

1371
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,520
construction of drainage and flood

1372
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,119
control improvements for hidden lake

1373
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:44,319
drainage way at Arvvada Center and

1374
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:47,670
R26-070

1375
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,920
a resolution authorizing an agreement

1376
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,799
between the city of Arvvada and Arrow OJ

1377
00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:54,640
Landscape and Design, Inc. for

1378
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,079
construction services in the

1379
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:58,720
redevelopment of Gold Strike Park. that

1380
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,270
is CSB26-VCN-030

1381
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,400
and an amount not to exceed 9

1382
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,190
million569,7516

1383
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,480
and R26 should071

1384
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,480
a resolution authorizing an amendment to

1385
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,000
the intergovernmental agreement between

1386
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,520
Jefferson County and the cities of

1387
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,359
Arvvada, Lakewood, Wheatidge, Golden,

1388
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:23,680
Westminster, and Edgewater for animal

1389
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,760
shelter dog licensing and funding to

1390
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,079
update the dog licensing requirements

1391
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,559
and provisions related to the support of

1392
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:32,799
shelter operations. Council member

1393
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:33,599
Feifer

1394
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:34,960
>> like to make a motion.

1395
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,839
>> Please do so.

1396
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:37,520
>> All right. Make the motion for

1397
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,400
resolution 26-069 through resolution

1398
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,960
26-071

1399
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,240
be approved.

1400
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,119
>> And you may proceed to vote.

1401
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,520
All votes have been cast. And that

1402
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,920
passes 6 to zero with Mayor Simpson

1403
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,950
excused.

1404
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,040
Next on the agenda is resolution

1405
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,309
R26-072,

1406
01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:02,400
a resolution approving the stipulation

1407
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,079
requesting that the hearing to be

1408
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:06,559
conducted pursuant to resolution number

1409
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:09,040
R26-063

1410
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,040
be conducted by a third party pursuant

1411
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,559
to section 2-378E1

1412
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,559
of the Arvvada city code instead of

1413
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:19,119
being heard by the city council. And I

1414
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:22,240
believe um city manag city attorney

1415
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,960
Rachel Morris, you have this item.

1416
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,040
>> Thank you, Mayor Prom Mormon. Um good

1417
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,200
evening, council. I wanted to provide a

1418
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,280
little bit of background on this one

1419
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,160
prior to the vote. Um,

1420
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,240
we we had this matter come before

1421
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,520
council a few weeks ago in resolution

1422
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,680
R26063

1423
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,760
asking council to make a determination

1424
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,000
on whether or not to proceed with one of

1425
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,920
two different one of not one of two on

1426
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,480
each of two ethics complaints that had

1427
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,400
been brought forward. So, council made

1428
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,960
the vote on that. Um, council for

1429
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,520
council member Davis did make some

1430
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,359
statements at that public hearing

1431
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:03,839
related to whether or not council might

1432
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:05,920
be witnesses for one or both of those

1433
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,520
proceedings depending on what council

1434
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,079
decided to do moving forward. Um, at the

1435
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:11,680
time that council was voting on that

1436
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,160
resolution, the city had not retained a

1437
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,160
special prosecutor which would who would

1438
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,599
represent the city. So, um, we did not

1439
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:22,720
present a position from the city related

1440
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,920
to that specific concern. Uh once

1441
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,079
council voted on those two resolutions

1442
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,000
and decided to move forward with one of

1443
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,400
the two ethics matters um the special

1444
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,040
prosecutor for the city was retained and

1445
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,960
then um he was consulted in it with

1446
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,960
regard to the concern that had been

1447
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,799
raised by um the attorney for council

1448
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:45,200
member Davis. So, the resolution you

1449
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,280
have before you tonight is being brought

1450
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,680
forward to you as a result of a

1451
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,079
stipulation, a joint stipulation reached

1452
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,480
by the special prosecutor for the city

1453
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,480
and the attorney for council member

1454
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,599
Davis. Um, so that's what's on the table

1455
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,839
for you right now. Um, if you have any

1456
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:03,680
questions, I'm happy to answer those.

1457
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,920
Um, I will say I think Council Member

1458
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,000
Davis will want to recuse herself for

1459
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,160
this one, but um, other than that, I

1460
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,440
think we should be good to go.

1461
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,039
>> Okay, Council Member Davis. Sure.

1462
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,440
I was not going to recuse myself since I

1463
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,839
am on the council, but uh what I think

1464
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:23,520
is important that uh the voters and

1465
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,119
taxpayers of the city should know that

1466
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:29,440
the city has engaged a special

1467
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,920
prosecutor and it is just not one

1468
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,240
attorney, it's three attorneys. So that

1469
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,039
would bring us up to six attorneys that

1470
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:40,720
have been engaged in um in these

1471
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,240
matters. And I I believe that I think

1472
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,520
it's as fiscal responsible having fiscal

1473
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,839
responsibility

1474
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:52,160
um and having already said that you that

1475
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,599
you do believe that I have violated the

1476
01:03:55,599 --> 01:04:00,319
um the code that of ethics and that the

1477
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:04,160
you can censor me, you can take a

1478
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,760
month's worth of pay, which is about

1479
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,079
$1,700.

1480
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:10,880
Um, in terms of fiscal responsibility,

1481
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,680
this does seem a little upside down. And

1482
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,559
I just thought that the uh that the

1483
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:19,359
taxpayers should know that. And in terms

1484
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,839
of fiscal responsibility,

1485
01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:26,880
is is this what we're doing? And um I I

1486
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,200
it it's

1487
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,640
what could what else could we be

1488
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,160
spending this money on and what aren't

1489
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,280
we spending this money on? So um I'll

1490
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,720
leave the uh the vote to the council. I

1491
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,640
will remain on the dis but I will recuse

1492
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,000
myself.

1493
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,000
>> And just in response do you want do you

1494
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,839
want me to respond to that? And I I can

1495
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:47,839
just provide some context as well

1496
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,559
regarding why um we have retained

1497
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,079
outside counsel for a number of these

1498
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:54,000
issues. So at the beginning of this

1499
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,280
matter um I think we had established as

1500
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,480
part of our process our public process

1501
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,559
that for the initial matter I was a

1502
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:04,640
witness and so I was not going to be

1503
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:05,920
advising the council and that's

1504
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,039
originally why we retained Mr. Hoffman.

1505
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,200
Um but those concerns were originally

1506
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,280
raised by council member Davis and her

1507
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,640
attorney. So, we in large part have been

1508
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,799
retaining outside attorneys to represent

1509
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:20,880
the city and to present the city's case

1510
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,160
in response to those concerns presented

1511
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,720
by um council member Davis and her

1512
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,400
attorney. And as I mentioned before in

1513
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,359
my presentation, um the concern about

1514
01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:34,559
council being the deciding hearing

1515
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:37,200
officer was originally raised by the

1516
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,440
attorney for council member Davis. And

1517
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,520
that is what prompted us to consider

1518
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,200
hiring an outside hearing officer is to

1519
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,680
take into account that concern. and we

1520
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,880
wanted to be um as mindful of that

1521
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,520
concern as possible and be as dev

1522
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,160
differential to council member Davis as

1523
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,520
possible. So that's really what

1524
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,599
motivated our retention there. So I just

1525
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:01,119
wanted to provide that context.

1526
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:02,880
>> Thank you. So we do need to make a

1527
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,680
motion to recuse council member Davis.

1528
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,760
Um so I think council member Ambrose,

1529
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,440
your light was on first. Do you wish to

1530
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,559
make that motion?

1531
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:11,119
>> Yes.

1532
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:12,720
>> Okay. So

1533
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,520
>> I proceed.

1534
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,599
>> I I move that we recuse council member

1535
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:18,640
Sharon Davis for the decision on

1536
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,520
resolution 26072.

1537
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:27,109
>> Okay. Please cast your vote.

1538
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:31,359
All votes are cast and okay. So I need I

1539
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:33,280
need help. How do I clear out Council

1540
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,000
Member Davis from this vote? [laughter]

1541
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,359
>> We'll have to get rid [snorts] of it and

1542
01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:38,000
do it again.

1543
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,520
>> Okay. So I need to clear vote. My

1544
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,599
apologies.

1545
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:44,960
Ah, easy. All right. Thank you, Council

1546
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,400
Member Griffith for showing me that. All

1547
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,319
right. So, I believe you can start

1548
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:54,309
voting now. Again, my apologies.

1549
01:06:54,319 --> 01:06:56,079
Council member Feifer, I do need your

1550
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:59,119
vote. And Council Ambrose.

1551
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:02,799
Okay. Now, all votes have been cast. So

1552
01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:06,240
that passes five to zero with both uh

1553
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,559
Mayor Simpson being excused and council

1554
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:10,559
member Davis who is recused herself.

1555
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:15,119
Thank you for that. All right. Um now to

1556
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,640
the um resolution before us. Council

1557
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,240
member Ambrose, do you wish to speak to

1558
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,319
the resolution? You may do so.

1559
01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,640
>> Yes. Thank you very much. Um, I would

1560
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,760
like to say that uh we are engaging in

1561
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,559
this um in respect to council member

1562
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:33,039
Davis's request that we do an

1563
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:34,559
independent

1564
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:37,920
um third-party pursuant which requires

1565
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,799
this hiring. So, um, if we're talking

1566
01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:42,960
about fiscal responsibility and how

1567
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,480
expensive things are, I think to achieve

1568
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,119
the standards of being as impartial as

1569
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:52,720
possible, it it is it does cost more

1570
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,359
money to do that. And also the money

1571
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:59,359
that it takes to um pursue every um

1572
01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:02,400
possible objection of both sides is what

1573
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,280
is part of the cost consciousness. Um,

1574
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,720
I've spoken before about when somebody,

1575
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,599
you know, we have an employee, we have,

1576
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:14,480
um, members of the public saying, "Hey,

1577
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,640
I think one of your council members has

1578
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,960
violated your code of ethics or state

1579
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,679
law that we have to investigate that I don't think it's a proper

1580
01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:26,080
response to say, well, that's too

1581
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,920
expensive and the end result punishment

1582
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,199
is only is less than $2,000." when it's

1583
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:36,400
really about the process. Um, I'd also

1584
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,279
like to say that um, at this point in

1585
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,279
the process, we have not determined if

1586
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,920
there's been an ethics violation or not.

1587
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,880
What we have is an investigation.

1588
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,880
And so, the investigation is factf

1589
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,920
finding. It is not a judgment. Um, and

1590
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,679
that is what we're moving forward. So, I

1591
01:08:53,679 --> 01:08:55,759
just want to be clear to the public. I

1592
01:08:55,759 --> 01:08:57,839
don't know which camera I'm on, but you

1593
01:08:57,839 --> 01:08:58,960
know, I just want to be clear to the

1594
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,120
public about well, where are we at the

1595
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,880
point in the process and why has it

1596
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,960
taken so long and why is it expensive?

1597
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,279
And I just want to assure the public

1598
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:10,480
that if you come forward with an ethics

1599
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,960
complaint about one of us that we're not

1600
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,000
going to turn to the side and say, well,

1601
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,159
it's really expensive to investigate

1602
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:21,359
those. Um, and I also want to be clear

1603
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,440
about where we are in the process in

1604
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:26,319
that we've conducted investigations and

1605
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,279
now what this resolution is about is a

1606
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:32,400
third party is going to look at that and

1607
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,560
make a recommendation to the council

1608
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,199
about what the results of that

1609
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:40,000
investigation reveal. Is that am I

1610
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,239
understanding it correct?

1611
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:43,120
>> That's correct.

1612
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,080
>> Right. So there has been no judgment and

1613
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,679
we are doing this as impartial as

1614
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:49,759
possible. But to be as impartial as

1615
01:09:49,759 --> 01:09:52,719
possible, we have to hire outside people

1616
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:55,440
without bias and that's expensive and

1617
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:57,360
that was actually requested by council

1618
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,239
member Davis. So, I just want to make

1619
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,159
sure that the public really understands

1620
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:04,320
where this is coming from and why it's

1621
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,239
taking so long and why we're spending

1622
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,480
money on this because it really is a

1623
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:11,199
respect to the public to our employees

1624
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:13,360
who have raised these complaints. And I

1625
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,920
would also like to register my complaint

1626
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,000
that I do not think it's proper for

1627
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,320
council member Davis to remain on the

1628
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,280
dis. Um, I think recusing yourself means

1629
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,440
that you don't want to be seen as

1630
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,320
influencing other council members on a

1631
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,960
decision that involves you. And so that

1632
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,560
is why we typically leave the room um

1633
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,400
when there are matters being discussed

1634
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,239
at which we are the subject of um that

1635
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,080
particular matter. We're trying to show

1636
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,080
that we are impartial. Um, and so I

1637
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,800
don't think that this is a good um,

1638
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,239
precedent for council members to be

1639
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:53,840
setting that when you're talking about

1640
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,360
me, I'm going to stay in the room. Well,

1641
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,440
that means that you are influencing the

1642
01:10:57,440 --> 01:10:58,960
rest of council and what you actually

1643
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,199
hope the rest of council would have an

1644
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:04,000
objective treatment of your behavior and

1645
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
ethical standards. And I know that if I

1646
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,920
was under an ethics investigation, I

1647
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,760
would recuse myself because of that um

1648
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,760
you know typical standing that most

1649
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,679
council members have about what it means

1650
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:18,560
to recuse yourself. So, um, as

1651
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,960
respectful as possible, you know, I

1652
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,719
really appreciate, um, what people

1653
01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:27,920
contribute here on council and I just

1654
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,840
want to note that these are my

1655
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,360
positions,

1656
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,600
um, and that I will be, um, supporting

1657
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,679
this because I think we're cooperating

1658
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:37,520
with council member Davis to have an

1659
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,400
impartial um, unbiased hearing about the

1660
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,239
results of the investigation.

1661
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:43,840
>> Thank you, Council Member Feifer.

1662
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,360
>> I'm sorry. Is there a motion on

1663
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,640
>> We have not had a motion in this

1664
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,159
resolution yet.

1665
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:50,320
>> Yeah. Council member Feifer,

1666
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:51,360
>> please make Yeah. You want to make the

1667
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:51,520
motion?

1668
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,880
>> Make a motion that we make comments if

1669
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,080
>> that's fine. Please do that. Yes. Um, I

1670
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,640
move that resolution 26-072, a

1671
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,239
resolution approving the stipulation

1672
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,320
requesting that the hearing to be

1673
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,880
conducted pursuant to resolution number

1674
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,760
um R26-063

1675
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,520
be conducted by a third party pursuant

1676
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,239
to section 2-378

1677
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:14,480
prin

1678
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,800
code instead of being heard by the city

1679
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,320
council be approved. And I do want to

1680
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,159
speak to to this as well.

1681
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:20,719
>> Please go ahead.

1682
01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:24,320
>> Um, you know, absolutely spot on. Um,

1683
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,400
council member Ambrose, it it's

1684
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,080
important that we're all held to an

1685
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,159
ethical standard like you said last time

1686
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:32,800
and um, you know, sitting on the dis

1687
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,159
when you've been recused. This is the

1688
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:36,159
first in my 15 years that council member

1689
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:37,760
did it, but the reason is is obviously

1690
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,840
not if there's a conflict of interest

1691
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,920
uh, not to pers uh, persuade other

1692
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,880
people on the dis uh, uh, through either

1693
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,600
being bullying or through submission or

1694
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,520
any of that. So, I agree with you

1695
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,239
completely. um it just shows kind of

1696
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:53,600
where we're where we're heading in this

1697
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,719
thing. It just doesn't seem to get

1698
01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:56,560
easier for any of us. And I also

1699
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,159
appreciate the fact that um Rachel and

1700
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:06,320
your team and our attorney Kaufman and even the suggestion of the uh the um

1701
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,560
I guess it's the counselor of council

1702
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,840
member Davis of suggesting that um we

1703
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,600
bring in a third party pursuant to that

1704
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,800
hearing. And um I think it's important

1705
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,520
uh for all fairness. So, I appreciate

1706
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,040
the I think I don't know if where this

1707
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,640
came from necessarily from prosecutor or

1708
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,360
andor you or or Kaufman, but I

1709
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,560
appreciate the fact that you brought it

1710
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,600
forth and again being further the

1711
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,000
transparency of the process. Uh,

1712
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,000
furthermore, so I'll be supporting the

1713
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,159
request and looking forward to hopefully

1714
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:38,480
get this put to rest here soon.

1715
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:41,920
>> Thank you, Council Member Griffith.

1716
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,159
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Prom. I'll be as

1717
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:46,880
short as I can with my comments. Um, I

1718
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,080
agree with a lot of things that I've

1719
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,159
heard up here tonight. Um, not not

1720
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:53,040
everything, but um, I just wanted to,

1721
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,800
this is probably very confusing for the

1722
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,480
public, um, because this has been going

1723
01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:58,640
on for quite a while and many of the

1724
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,239
details um, are

1725
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:05,679
forthcoming, so to speak, um, pending

1726
01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:07,280
this the uh, the hearing and the exact

1727
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,800
format of the hearing. So, I understand

1728
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,960
that that can be frustrating. Uh what I

1729
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,560
wanted to say is um it's my perspective

1730
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,320
that uh staff, our legal council, city

1731
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,520
members of city council um including

1732
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,520
council member Davis and her

1733
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,360
representation I think are all in the

1734
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,560
pursuit of what's right and I think

1735
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,000
there's some differences of opinion on

1736
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,760
exactly what that is and how it's

1737
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:37,360
determined. Um, I appreciate to a great

1738
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,199
extent that we're trying to do this

1739
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:41,199
properly. I mentioned this in my

1740
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:44,960
comments on August 18th that I feel like

1741
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,640
uh this is particularly challenging

1742
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,880
because it's not something that we have

1743
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,040
experience with in the city of Arvvada,

1744
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,199
which is great. We don't have a lot of

1745
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:55,040
ethics violations happening on a regular

1746
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,360
basis here. Um, but that makes it

1747
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,360
challenging to kind of manage the

1748
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,880
process. Um, uh, as a human being, I

1749
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,560
understand why Council Member Davis

1750
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,920
would like to be here while we're

1751
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,560
speaking directly to things that concern

1752
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,640
her personally. Um, I am not sure

1753
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,080
exactly how I feel about the recusal and

1754
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,400
staying in place, but I do see that

1755
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,840
typically the recusal is done for

1756
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,679
something that's not rel related to you

1757
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:29,520
directly, um, but a perceived conflict

1758
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,000
that may arise. So, it's a, like I say,

1759
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,199
this is something that we haven't dealt

1760
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:36,239
with before as a city and, um, we're

1761
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:37,840
trying to follow a process to the best

1762
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,159
of our ability. Uh, so with all that,

1763
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:41,920
um, I will be standing by the comments

1764
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,000
that I made in August 18th. I will not

1765
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,840
be supporting this motion, but I just

1766
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,280
wanted to provide some context. Thank

1767
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,320
you.

1768
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,440
>> Thank you. I see no more comments um on

1769
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:53,360
this or discussion, so I'm going to open

1770
01:15:53,360 --> 01:16:02,870
for voting. Please proceed to vote.

1771
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,800
All right, that passes 4 to one with uh

1772
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,880
Mayor Simpson being excused and Council

1773
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:14,470
Member Davis recused.

1774
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:17,360
We will now move on to first readings.

1775
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,590
Um, Council Member Davis.

1776
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,360
Thank you.

1777
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,239
I move that CB26-025,

1778
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:27,920
an ordinance annexing certain land

1779
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,159
within the city of Arvvada concerning

1780
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:33,520
water treatment plant parcel number one,

1781
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,640
a 17.885 885 acre of parcel of parcel of

1782
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,159
land located at 6809

1783
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,560
state highway 93 in the city of Arvvada,

1784
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,800
county of Jefferson, state of Colorado,

1785
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,159
and CB26-026,

1786
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:51,760
an ordinance annexing certain land

1787
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,080
within the city of Arvvada concerning

1788
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,320
water treatment plant parcel number two,

1789
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,480
a 9.016 016 acre parcel of land located

1790
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:04,159
at 6809 state highway 93 in the city of

1791
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:06,480
Arvvada, county of Jefferson, state of

1792
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:10,719
Colorado, and CB26-027,

1793
01:17:10,719 --> 01:17:12,320
an ordinance reszoning certain land

1794
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,199
within the city of Arvvada,

1795
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:17,600
uh, water treatment plant,

1796
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,560
county of Jefferson, um, oh, I lost my

1797
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,239
place. I'm sorry. a water treatment

1798
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:24,719
plant from Jefferson County PUB to City

1799
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:26,719
of Arvvada Open Space and amending the

1800
01:17:26,719 --> 01:17:28,800
official zoning maps of the City of

1801
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,960
Arvvada, Colorado and CB26-028,

1802
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,880
an ordinance repealing and reenacting

1803
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,159
table 3-1-2-2

1804
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:41,120
residential land use by zoning district

1805
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,480
and CB26-029,

1806
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:46,960
an ordinance authorizing a moratorum on

1807
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,400
the submittal and acceptance of

1808
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,800
applications for primary use data

1809
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,480
centers. All be approved on first

1810
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,640
reading, ordered, published in full, and

1811
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,320
a public hearing set for October 6, 2026

1812
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,320
at 6:15

1813
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,199
p.m.

1814
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:04,320
>> Very good. All right. I will open for

1815
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,830
voting.

1816
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,800
» I can't vote.

1817
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,400
>> Oh,

1818
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,280
you can now.

1819
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,840
All right. All votes are cast. That

1820
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,719
passes six to zero with Mayor Simpson

1821
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:22,310
being excused.

1822
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,159
And next we have uh a need to cancel the

1823
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:28,960
October 13, 2026 meeting since there are

1824
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,880
no scheduled agenda items for that

1825
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,280
meeting. Do I have a motion to cancel

1826
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,280
the October 13, 2026 meeting?

1827
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,520
Um,

1828
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,199
Council Member Davis,

1829
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:44,000
>> make the motion motion to cancel October

1830
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,560
13, 2026 workshop meeting.

1831
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:51,110
>> All right, you may proceed to vote.

1832
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,280
All votes are cast. That passes six to

1833
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,600
zero with Mayor Simpson excused. Thank

1834
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,520
you.

1835
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,560
We have uh no public hearings tonight.

1836
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,800
So, next on the agenda is our second

1837
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,960
public comment time. Is there anyone in

1838
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,480
the council chambers who wishes to make

1839
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:08,239
public comment this evening for five

1840
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:11,590
minutes?

1841
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,080
All right. Seeing none, I will close

1842
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,800
that

1843
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,440
and we'll go to reports. So, first of

1844
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:25,030
all, uh, reports from council members.

1845
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,360
Council member Feifer. Well, once I

1846
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,760
found parking in Oldtown, [laughter]

1847
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,320
the shindig was awesome. It was packed.

1848
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,400
I didn't get to go till about 6:30 and

1849
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,239
it was still happening. So, pretty

1850
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:40,320
impressed. Um, I was reflecting the day

1851
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,880
when I had the store in Oldtown, uh, how

1852
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,719
much I begged for Old Wadssworth to be

1853
01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:46,880
closed during Halloween. Do you remember

1854
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,400
those days?

1855
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,719
And I was told never, it will never

1856
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:52,400
happen. And I was worried about the

1857
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,000
little kids walking on the sidewalk

1858
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,520
going trick-or-treating from business to business. And I was the HOD

1859
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,159
president at the time. And I was

1860
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:01,840
reflecting with my wife how exciting it

1861
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,000
was to have the roads closed and have a

1862
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,560
pedestrian uh mall kind of environment.

1863
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,800
And it was good to see all the families

1864
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,760
and uh how packed it was and the kids

1865
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,360
running around in a safe environment. So

1866
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,280
I just, you know, at the time it made

1867
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,560
one sense and today it makes better

1868
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,040
sense in my eyes. And so, um, it's just

1869
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,280
exciting to see how vibrant, um, it is.

1870
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,960
I spoke spoke with a lot of the owners

1871
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,159
and everything and caught up with some

1872
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:26,480
old friends. So, it was good shindig.

1873
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:27,840
That was actually a really good, uh,

1874
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,199
party that they had in Oldtown. So, I

1875
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:30,480
just wanted to make comments and show

1876
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:31,840
the success [clears throat] of that, the

1877
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,600
bid and and the business down there.

1878
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,239
>> Awesome. Thank you. Uh, Council Member

1879
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:38,080
Ambrose, you were next.

1880
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,960
>> Thank you. Um, I went to the Arvvada

1881
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,719
Economic Development Association board

1882
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:44,640
meeting today and there was a great

1883
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,679
presentation on uh the city and Aayita

1884
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:49,679
working together on supporting

1885
01:20:49,679 --> 01:20:53,199
businesses to um look at their carbon

1886
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:55,920
footprint and be more aligned with or

1887
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,000
not be more aligned but ideas in which

1888
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,199
the ways the um climate sustainability

1889
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:04,320
action plan um and businesses can be

1890
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,159
working together and offering uh

1891
01:21:06,159 --> 01:21:08,880
resources for that. So, wanted to report

1892
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:13,520
back on that positive collaboration. Um,

1893
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,000
and yeah, the Oldtown Shindig was great,

1894
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,841
except the dunk tank didn't work.

1895
01:21:17,841 --> 01:21:18,960
[laughter]

1896
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,880
So, um, sorry for everybody who got

1897
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,000
robbed of dunking me and Mayor Simpson

1898
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,159
at the shindig. But, um, that's my

1899
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:26,960
report. Thank you.

1900
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,880
>> Fabulous. Thank you. Uh, Council Member

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01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,400
Griffith, you were next.

1902
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,239
>> Thank you, Mayor Prom. Uh, just wanted

1903
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:34,560
to provide a quick update with the REMAX

1904
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,400
event that we had last week on aging in

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01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,320
place. uh in Arvvada. I thought it was

1906
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,560
very successful. Um we had the mayor of

1907
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,199
Wheatidge there as well as myself and we

1908
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:46,880
had a uh not an actuary um who writes

1909
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,880
wills lawyer.

1910
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,560
>> Yes, someone who [laughter] practices

1911
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,840
law. Um there's a name for it. Estate

1912
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,080
planner something. I'm botching this

1913
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,840
really bad. But um can you help me out?

1914
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,679
>> No, not a demographer.

1915
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:03,120
>> I think you're fine to just say an

1916
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,800
estate planner or a trust and estates

1917
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,320
attorney. Yeah, I think that's probably

1918
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,560
right. It was wonderful and the list of

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01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,239
everybody that was there is is available

1920
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:12,560
online. But anyway, I wanted to give

1921
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,159
some kudos to staff because they were

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01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,480
prepared a number of things for me. One

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01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:18,960
of which was all of the um aging in

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,320
place measures that the city is

1925
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,639
currently doing here in our uh along

1926
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:24,639
with affordable housing uh that's

1927
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:27,040
available here in the city um at various

1928
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,120
levels and some of it in pipelines, some

1929
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,040
of it already existing. there was a lot

1930
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,159
of interest in aging in place from a a

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01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:36,880
maintenance and modification standpoint.

1932
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,960
Um, and I was really excited to to share

1933
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,239
with there's a program in the city to

1934
01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:42,239
that will help offset some of the costs

1935
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:44,880
for ramps, uh, bathrooms and other

1936
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,400
simple modifications will allow you to

1937
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,320
stay stay in your home. Um, that was a

1938
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,840
part of it. Another part of it was the

1939
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,920
need for certain type of housing that we

1940
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,280
don't typically see without stairs, um,

1941
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,440
smaller footprint homes. And I think

1942
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:00,960
these are ongoing conversations that

1943
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,719
don't just affect the elderly in

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01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:05,199
Arvvada. But um I really appreciated the

1945
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:06,960
opportunity with Remax to participate in

1946
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,360
that and learned a lot about uh things

1947
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,280
that we need to start addressing. One of the big things I'll say, sorry uh

1948
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,480
was trying to figure this out in my

1949
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:18,000
head. Uh 150,000

1950
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,400
uh residents projected in Jefferson

1951
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:24,320
County by 2030 that are over the age of

1952
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,719
55, I believe, was the stat that really

1953
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:30,560
caught my attention. Uh, so that's a significantly increasing

1954
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,120
number.

1955
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,880
>> I'm now one of them.

1956
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,199
>> Oh, great.

1957
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:38,667
>> Uh, anyway, this story ends now.

1958
01:23:38,667 --> 01:23:42,629
[laughter] Thank you.

1959
01:23:42,639 --> 01:23:44,560
» Thank you, Council Member Griffith. Uh,

1960
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,880
Council Member Davis, you're next.

1961
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,600
>> Yes. Thank you. Um, I was able to attend

1962
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,400
the Arvvada Pow-Wow if that was at the

1963
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:57,600
Arvvada Center. It was amazing. The the

1964
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,719
dress, the the singers, the drummers. It

1965
01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:05,120
was um an all inspiring uh event. So,

1966
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,159
I'm so glad I had the ability and the

1967
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:11,920
availability to go to that. I will be uh

1968
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,320
attending a CML dinner tomorrow night

1969
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,239
and I will bring forward some of the

1970
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:18,320
issues that we talked about in public

1971
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:22,159
comment um this evening to see how other

1972
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:24,880
uh cities and municipalities are feeling

1973
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,480
um and um we'll report back on how CML

1974
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:32,159
will vote on this on on the 18th uh that

1975
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:36,000
this will come uh in front of us and

1976
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,400
that's about it. The shindig was

1977
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,280
fabulous. I was at the Kowanas tent and

1978
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,840
we did a pretty good it was a slow start

1979
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,080
but then we got pretty steady and so we

1980
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,440
did a good steady job out there. So I'm

1981
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:52,719
um other members were at that and it was

1982
01:24:52,719 --> 01:24:55,280
a lot of fun. So can't wait till the

1983
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,040
tree lighting.

1984
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,719
>> Thank you Cath Davis. Council member

1985
01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:00,159
Leverson.

1986
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:02,239
>> Thank you so much. I uh was also very

1987
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:05,199
honored to attend the powow. um just

1988
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:08,560
yeah really amazing experience uh and

1989
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,719
really grateful we're able to do that in

1990
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:13,040
our community and acknowledge those that

1991
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,000
were here first. Um the second thing is

1992
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,080
I've got my monthly meet and learn on

1993
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,480
September 24th. This one is about

1994
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:22,239
building our VAT. So we'll have staff

1995
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:24,400
members talking about all the different

1996
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,880
ways we build our VAT specifically

1997
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,840
focused on um businesses and

1998
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,360
development. So if you have any

1999
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,679
questions, these are meant to be more of

2000
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:37,199
a conversation than a presentation. And

2001
01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:39,120
the learn and meet and learn is really

2002
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,920
so we can learn from community members

2003
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,960
maybe gaps in understanding or what the

2004
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,639
perspective of the community is. That

2005
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:49,760
will be September 24th 5:30 to 7. And

2006
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,159
that will be at the um Aita uh and ORA

2007
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:56,719
are in the same building over at 5603

2008
01:25:56,719 --> 01:25:59,199
Yukon Street. So, uh, right by Grand

2009
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:01,120
View and Yukon, um, we'll be meeting

2010
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,679
there and we'll have snacks. So, bring

2011
01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:05,760
your questions.

2012
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,760
>> Great. Thank you.

2013
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,520
>> Um, I just heard a council member Feifer

2014
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,120
is coming because of snacks.

2015
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,800
Um, I have uh two Arat Center related uh

2016
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,199
things to report. One is um we had a

2017
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,920
great opening night for Misery. Um, get

2018
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,840
your tickets and go see it. It's really

2019
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,320
an amazing production and just

2020
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,320
theatrically it's it's very well done.

2021
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,199
So the set is is as they say the set is

2022
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:32,880
one of the actors. So make sure you go

2023
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:37,120
check it out. Um and then uh last

2024
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,880
Thursday they had their opening night

2025
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,719
for a new gallery exhibit which is

2026
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:42,719
called Par

2027
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:45,600
um with art being in caps. And it's

2028
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,280
really a great exhibit and it was a very

2029
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,199
fun event. They had um flame juggling

2030
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:55,040
and um just a lot of of fun things going

2031
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,280
on for the party theme and great food.

2032
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,440
So um it's a good evening and and check

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01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:02,239
out that exhibit. Um I will turn it over

2034
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:05,520
to uh city manager Wick.

2035
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,679
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. Um couple of

2036
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:09,679
things tonight. First, next week you'll

2037
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:12,320
have a workshop on the budget. So we'll

2038
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,000
look forward to giving that presentation

2039
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,480
next week. And then uh today the 10th

2040
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:18,560
Circuit Court of Appeals released its

2041
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,080
opinion on the gross reservoir uh issue

2042
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,480
and the court has ruled in favor of

2043
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:26,960
Denver Water. So the project will be

2044
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,360
able to move forward from this point. So

2045
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,920
we'll be reading thoroughly through that

2046
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,920
opinion and fully understanding that and

2047
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,800
then um uh working with Denver Waters as

2048
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,639
that move forward. So thank you. That's

2049
01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:39,280
all I have today.

2050
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,400
>> Excellent. Thank you. Uh, city city city

2051
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,960
uh attorney Morris, what do you have for

2052
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,520
us tonight? Or I will I will Morales. I

2053
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,320
will ask Jessica Morales. Yes.

2054
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,600
>> Thank you. Nothing for the city

2055
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:52,719
attorney's office.

2056
01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:55,199
>> Thank you. All right. Well, with that,

2057
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:58,679
we stand adjourned.