1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:10,000 All right. So, with that, let's start the meeting at 7:03. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:16,440 Uh, we'll do roll call. Uh, Tim Rhodess, 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,440 do you first? 4 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:22,640 » I can see your list. Move him, but I didn't hear it. 5 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:25,039 » Can't hear it. >> And you were you unmuted yourself, it 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,960 says. >> Yep. Can you hear? 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,400 » Gotcha. >> There I go. [laughter] I have to turn on 8 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:33,280 the microphone. >> Oh, you know, technicality. 9 00:00:32,750 --> 00:00:35,280 [laughter] >> All right. Uh Paul Varga 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 » here, >> Pam Summers 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,559 » here, >> Keith Lipker 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:46,800 » here. >> Um myself, Kale Plaggy. Um and then Judy 13 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:48,079 Austin is not here. And for alternates, Rob Turn 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,440 » here >> and Bill Becker. 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,079 » Bill >> here. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,399 » Okay. Uh so since everyone's here, we're not 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:04,559 going to see any alternates. Uh we'll start with communications. So um well as 18 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:09,200 everybody knows now we now have more controls over Zoom so we can monitor 19 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:16,880 that because of last week we had a little incident. So um we're going to do 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:24,479 that for moving forward. Um also I distributed an email that we 21 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:28,720 received from a town's person about the fire department. I'm sure you've all 22 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:35,280 read it about how there was some misinterpreted language about the budget 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:43,040 and how those funds for the chief position were going to be used. Um, I 24 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:47,600 looked it up and so it seems like since obviously the budget is already passed, 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:54,560 the funds are done that it's now a board of selectman issue and so they obviously 26 00:01:50,479 --> 00:02:00,719 have been notified and um it's in their hands now. So if we want to have a 27 00:01:58,479 --> 00:02:04,399 discussion on it, um, the only thing that I would say is we can have a 28 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:11,120 discussion on how this is going to be an impact for this coming year. 29 00:02:07,119 --> 00:02:14,120 Um and then um we can just go from there. 30 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Uh and then the next thing would just be approve the minutes. 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:28,760 So we have the regular meeting minutes from last week, 32 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:36,879 August 13th or last two weeks last meeting. 33 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Uh, do you need me to bring it up on the screen or can we get um a motion? 34 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,599 » I'll make the motion to accept the minutes from August 13th. 35 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,720 » Second. >> Okay. 36 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,040 All in favor? >> I 37 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,000 » I Any oppose? Oh, 38 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,640 » I just abstain. >> Any extensions? [laughter] 39 00:02:56,319 --> 00:03:06,000 » I so Tim Paul abstain. 40 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:10,239 Okay. So then um did you guys vote because you or I guess 41 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,959 they're not seated so they can't vote. >> You just pass. You got 42 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,400 » Okay, we're three. Okay, so we're good. It passes. 43 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:22,959 » Mhm. >> Okay. So then next is just public 44 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:29,519 comment which I don't see anybody. Okay. So then 45 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:37,599 after that will be the update on the annual report. So there are 10 46 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:43,840 departments left outstanding for the report. Um that includes the board of 47 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:49,680 finance. So I was wondering if I could possibly get a volunteer of somebody who 48 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:59,200 could write that up for me. Um so it's for the 2425 annual 49 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:05,760 report. So, it's just um I mean you could look at last I guess the only year 50 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:09,680 that's on there. Yeah. To to bring it up. It's just accomplishments uh 51 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:16,160 descriptions of what happened throughout the year, that kind of thing. Um if 52 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:22,000 someone would be willing, I think most of the information could come from the 53 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:28,880 minutes from that year that are online as well. Um 54 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:33,360 » a good sources right up in the Ashford citizen about the budget even though 55 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:36,639 that's >> yeah cuz it's it would be 56 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,479 » because again some historic background >> it would probably be mostly about the 57 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:47,440 budget and then if there was anything so back then it was what the school roof 58 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:52,960 maybe that um wasn't it like a new school bus or 59 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:58,080 something too. I was gonna say I mean if you look at the previous annual report 60 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:01,919 too you an idea what people it really is just a 61 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:06,080 » really it's a yeah summation the highlights 62 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,520 » I had all I could really get get yours the other one to you so I'm not 63 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:14,080 voluntary [laughter] >> I know 64 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:17,919 still working on the next one >> I mean we have time I just think about 65 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,960 it I mean you know I'm still gonna be working on it compiling but um you know 66 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:29,120 if someone but it's just throwing it out there if they want anybody wanted to try 67 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:33,840 and do it, have at it. Um, but yeah, besides that, the only other 68 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:40,960 thing would just be um this coming month, so September time, I'll probably 69 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:47,440 try and get the 25 26, so this last year's, I'll try and get those in as 70 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:53,360 well to kind of do the same catch up for the annual reports. 71 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:58,479 Um, so then the next new business would just be to discuss the auditor's 72 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:04,360 questions here. I just realized I probably should sign up and share it. 73 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Um, 74 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:14,000 so I wasn't sure if everybody took a minute 75 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:17,440 to look at them. >> Oh, we're question. 76 00:06:16,479 --> 00:06:22,759 » Yes. >> Yes, there's something. Uh 77 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,759 » that's me. 78 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:31,694 » Is there something behind this or is you know 79 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:34,000 is there some rumor going around that [laughter] there's something going on or 80 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,440 or what? >> I don't [clears throat] think we have we 81 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:42,479 » No. So I was going to say like prior to you putting them out here 82 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:47,840 » you've never seen them. >> The board itself has never seen 83 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,479 generally handled by the chair and >> Okay. Well, I mean that's 84 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,440 » Well, I'm not complaining. I'm just telling you because that's like I 85 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:58,160 Keith's reaction was like, "What's going on?" [laughter] 86 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,800 » No, these are standard questions that come out every year for the audit. 87 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,440 » Exactly. >> But other chairs, 88 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:10,160 » you put them on the internet. >> I emailed them to you. 89 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:15,120 » I missed it. So, what date do you know? >> Uh, the 11th. 90 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:21,840 » Oh, I'm sorry. The 18th. >> 18th of August. explain that. 91 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:25,440 » Um, so yeah, every year the auditor send or yeah, every year the auditor sends a 92 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:31,520 list of questions. Some of them change based on what's happened. Like there may 93 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:37,120 be a question um that if there was a a finding that 94 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:43,520 required mediation or whatever or response that that question may have in 95 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:47,400 there, but we didn't have any. So these are just standard questions. 96 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:56,400 It used to be they were discussed with the whole board of finance and they were 97 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,000 normally sort of preuncterary accounting issues, 98 00:07:57,039 --> 00:08:02,960 » right? >> Yeah. It's exactly what it is. And so I 99 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,720 did find the email from last year that Christina provided, right? And they're, 100 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,000 you know, obviously they're like no across the boards, but I thought it 101 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:17,120 would be good, not like necessarily exposure, but at least to have everybody 102 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:21,919 agree on it first just so that way cuz I don't want it well technically too. I 103 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:25,840 don't want it to all just be on me if I respond no when it's a yes. You know 104 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:30,960 what I mean? Like if we know that there's a subsequent event. 105 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:36,560 » Um, so I figure collectively we can talk about it. And then also too with some of 106 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:42,640 these we might have to wait you know for after Sherry presents all the year end 107 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:47,279 adjustments maybe you know because they could have come up with a subsequent 108 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:52,640 event or something >> like basic 109 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:57,040 » I guess if you will financial there's no dollar questions in here you know like 110 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:01,600 are you aware of an actual or suspected fraud 111 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:04,080 affecting this entity Yeah. 112 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:08,560 » You know, it's also too like when there's a change in personnel, anybody 113 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:13,120 that has any >> responsibility, 114 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,959 finances, is there's a exit audit or something like that. 115 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,680 » So, there is a checks and balance there. >> You know, do you communicate 116 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,080 for a board or commission? You communicate with employees and others 117 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,240 within the entity their views on business practices and ethical behavior. 118 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,360 » The only time we can technically talk amongst ourselves is in this meeting. 119 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,279 Yeah. Right. So >> yeah. 120 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,720 » And these are like standard review question. 121 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,920 » Exactly. >> So the number number 11 though strikes 122 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,160 me as funny. >> Let's let's go in order. All right. 123 00:09:47,541 --> 00:09:57,279 [laughter] And then we can and then we can go. Um, 124 00:09:53,279 --> 00:10:03,600 so I guess I'll just do aware of any fraud. No. Um, are you aware of any 125 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:08,720 allegations of fraud? No. Um, do you identify and assess the risk 126 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:14,079 that the financial statements may be materially misstated due to fraud? No. 127 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:18,959 Wait. Do you identify and assess the risk that 128 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,959 I guess no reason? 129 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:30,480 You identify and assess the risk that the financial statements including 130 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,200 individual statements in the disclosures may be materially misstated due to 131 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:42,680 fraud. And how and how often do you make that identification and assessment? 132 00:10:38,079 --> 00:10:42,680 » So we do review the statements, right? 133 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:50,800 » Now that's a generalized question. So that like if the treasur does standard, 134 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:55,200 you know, purchase order, receiver match, you know, stuff like that, you 135 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,880 know, if they do that kind of thing, that answers that they're normally doing 136 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:04,560 the right thing. >> Yeah. But this is for this board. 137 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,600 » The questions directed to generally if I was 138 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,800 » Are the questions directed to us, Kayla? >> Yes. 139 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,160 » Yeah. The board. >> Yeah. Like how much do we see? We don't 140 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:18,959 see everything. Well, I I know like for example the board of select then when 141 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:23,600 their invoices come through that they look at them and they initial them. So 142 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:28,240 that's you know they all look you know so if somebody's 143 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:32,320 finagling something you know chances are they're going to get you know 144 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:37,120 » and some of these basically do not apply to be honest with you. 145 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:41,920 » Trying to find what she said last year >> doesn't matter 146 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:46,560 » this one. No, I mean it doesn't necessarily matter, but just in case, 147 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:53,839 you know, try and see what was written last year. 148 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:58,480 » Okay, so it was a no. So, um, do you have a process for identifying 149 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:02,480 and responding to the risk of fraud and determining which count balances, 150 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:07,640 classes, or transactions are susceptible to those risks? So, I'm assuming yes, 151 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:18,639 » you communicate That's an interesting question because one of the issues is 152 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:23,279 what you call classification error and sometimes that's deliberate. Someone 153 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:27,920 will classify an expense to a wrong account code to cover up a budget 154 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:32,160 anomalies. So you hope that's not happening. 155 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:35,760 » Well, we wouldn't know. >> That'd be upstairs. 156 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,920 » You would know if you looked at invoices, right? 157 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:42,959 » We don't. We don't. >> Yeah. Do you communicate with employees 158 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:46,240 and others within the entity your views on business practices and ethical 159 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:49,839 behavior? Yes. >> Yes. 160 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:54,160 » Has the entity entered into any significant unusual transactions? 161 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:58,240 » No. >> No. 162 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:02,320 » Are you aware of any inappropriate or unusual activities related to processing 163 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:07,360 of journal entries? >> No. 164 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:11,519 Have you received any tips or complaints regarding the entity's financial 165 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:17,040 reporting process used to prepare the entity's financial statements? 166 00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:21,680 No. Okay. Do you report to those charged 167 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:25,839 with governance and other appropriate personnel on how the entity system of 168 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:31,240 internal control serve to prevent, deter, detect material misstatements due 169 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:31,240 to fraud? 170 00:13:33,839 --> 00:13:38,440 I mean should be yes 171 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:46,399 » do we don't know 172 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:50,320 » you could put answer >> I guess we report to the selectman 173 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:55,120 » no we don't or >> it's the other way around 174 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:58,480 or other appropriate personnel on how the entity system internal 175 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:02,000 » we're a senior board in town we don't report to anybody except the 176 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:07,160 actually true. 177 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:17,360 » It's just a statement. So either way, it's a yes. Okay. Are you aware of any 178 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,360 transactions entered into with related parties? 179 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:29,040 Are you aware of any cyber security incidents? 180 00:14:26,079 --> 00:14:33,040 » Yes. either intentional events or deliberate actions by insiders or third 181 00:14:31,199 --> 00:14:34,880 parties affecting the entity. >> Yep. 182 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:41,120 » Yeah. >> Pumpkin head [laughter] pumpkin head. 183 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:45,760 » Glad I missed it. >> I don't even know where I was last. 184 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:50,720 » And we have taken the appropriate stuff. >> That's it. [laughter] 185 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,720 » Yeah, exactly. Are you aware of any such incidents? 186 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:02,480 I feel like though that's more of hacking. It's not like hacking the 187 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:06,480 meetings. It's more hacking and then getting money. 188 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:10,800 » But but that still is considered cyber security because you could get 189 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:14,160 information back 190 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,160 and stuff. >> Yeah. 191 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:23,120 » Let's see if we can come back with that. It guy might not like it. Are you aware 192 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,720 of >> Well, I mean, if the answer, if they 193 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,199 come back with a followup, is we took steps to mitigate it, right? 194 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,040 » Yeah. >> I think we we we took appropriate 195 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:37,680 actions as soon as we knew that. >> Yeah. It wasn't financials. It was just 196 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:42,160 the meetings. Maybe I'll put that I'll just say yes. Uh 197 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:46,720 » that's right. I don't even know what they call 198 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:51,199 » meeting. Zoom meeting. >> Sex bomb. [laughter] 199 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:56,310 » I'm not going to put that. wouldn't be the only town. Trust me, 200 00:15:53,199 --> 00:15:58,330 » we'll stop asking questions. [laughter] 201 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:05,240 » Hopefully, they still have the unedited version of the meeting. Just kidding. 202 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:15,680 Are you aware of laws or regulations that may be expected to have a 203 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:22,079 fundamental effect on the operations of the entity? 204 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,079 » Not at this time. 205 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:28,279 Are you aware of any non-compliance with laws and regulations? 206 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:36,800 No. Okay. Are you aware of any events subsequent of June 30th that may be 207 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:40,519 disclosed? I'm going to go with no. 208 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:49,279 Are these is this document going to be the caption minutes? 209 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,399 Sure. I don't see why not. I mean, I'm happy to take out and 210 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,800 » No, I just have right here. I can just send it to you. 211 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,120 » Figure out what 212 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,439 Okay. Um 213 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:38,000 All right. Painless. So that's all I had um for 214 00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:47,400 this meeting. So agenda items for the next meeting. Let's just see 215 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,400 what we got. So, it should be September 216 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:58,160 September 10th is the next meeting. Um, 217 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:02,240 I will say that I'll probably follow up with Sherry to 218 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:07,919 see when we'll have the year-end adjustments and and all that where we 219 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:15,039 can start that process. Um, so I'm not sure if it'll be available for next 220 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:20,720 meeting or not. Um, but besides that, I think the only thing really outstanding 221 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:25,200 and anybody can add anything is really the annual report and that's 222 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:28,720 just kind of me compiling everything and just getting it together. So 223 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,080 » I ask besides the board of finance, what's the other what are the other 224 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:37,080 departments? Do you know? >> Oh, that have to be good or missing. 225 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,320 Oh, it's 226 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:50,720 we're missing board of selectman, zoning board, transportation, 227 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:55,840 economic development, uh, municipal agent for the elderly, 228 00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:01,440 senior center, housing authority, planning and zoning, and fire marshall. 229 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:07,200 Municipal for the elderly, elderly, senior center, housing authority. 230 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:12,480 » Those are some planning and zoning >> going to be in the minutes. 231 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:15,120 » Pretty big. >> That's the zoning board of appeals. Is 232 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,280 it? >> Yes. 233 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,760 » Can I make sure I have everything? >> Planning. Oh, wait. Was it planning and 234 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:26,000 zoning or zoning? >> Planning and planning and zoning and the 235 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:28,799 zoning board of appeals. Okay. 236 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,160 » Planning and zoning transfer >> last November. I did 237 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,240 » development. >> Are you on? 238 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:42,080 » I'm not on it. >> Okay. I'm I am going to see um I got the 239 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,960 contact information from Sher who she she sent them out originally and I've 240 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,000 just been following up so I don't know if they're 241 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:53,039 » Yeah. One of the problems is and keep this to and Kayla contacted me about the 242 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:59,120 2425 because >> people change but really the previous 243 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:05,679 person should be responsible. Even the 25 26 I'm going to work them because I 244 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:10,320 was still in charge until July 1. So like there is a transition period and 245 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,240 not everybody just walks away. Some people do. 246 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:17,120 » Yeah. But uh and also the new person should be 247 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:21,360 able to go back and look and say, "Hey, what do we do?" Right? Any any 248 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:25,200 department worth its weight would have a list of what they had, what they were 249 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:30,400 working on anyway. And if you go back to the previous year's thing, it lists like 250 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,600 your goals. They're supposed to be listed there. 251 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,159 » So, do we meet those goals? I mean, it's pretty simple. 252 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:43,520 » So, here's the thing, too, is for the zoning board of appeals. They forget 253 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:48,880 who's in Yeah. the fair now reach out to me. But the zoning board of appeals is 254 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,559 probably one of the least in least active boards in town. 255 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,200 » Don't only meet like once a year or something. 256 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:59,840 » Well, that's because we don't have any new business. 257 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:07,840 » They got new business after I left. They get that where they had to 258 00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:13,760 CEO's zone enforcement guys decision was appealed which is very rare, 259 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:17,280 » right? But um all the results. >> Okay. 260 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:22,080 » But um yeah, I could you know because what I did is just go back through and 261 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:27,760 we had you know I don't even know if we had but maybe one or two meetings that 262 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:32,159 year and that's that's it. And then we there's the whole thing about online 263 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:37,280 training because as far as I know the state still requires that anybody's 264 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:42,640 dealing with land use uh complete so many hours of you know the continuing ed 265 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:44,880 which is online. Um, 266 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,400 » yeah, cuz I think what's going to happen is if I don't get them, I'm just going 267 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:53,120 to have to write >> and I don't really want to do that or do 268 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:56,480 a description. We'll just do the description. 269 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,919 » Kayla, actually, it's easy. You don't have to do anything. 270 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:03,440 » Then what am I doing now? >> If they don't submit it and you come to 271 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:07,039 a deadline, the report >> I don't know the deadline. That's the 272 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:11,440 thing. Nobody said anything. >> That's part of the problem is that we've 273 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:16,799 tried multiple ways to get back in. The report is required by but it 274 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:21,520 » but the the the other stuff isn't required. The department reports are not 275 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:25,280 required. It's all the financial >> financial report. 276 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:30,159 » Yeah. So, so you if if someone doesn't give it, you list report not submitted. 277 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:32,799 » List report not >> honestly that's a good way to put 278 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,840 pressure on that. >> No kidding. 279 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,840 » board right or that entity because if you're not doing that then when it does 280 00:22:37,679 --> 00:22:43,120 time come time for budget season and somebody asks a question you can say 281 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:46,159 well I don't know because for the last three years they haven't submitted 282 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,039 anything for their annual report. So what are we doing? Why do you all of a 283 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:53,200 sudden need to come to the board of finance and ask for money when you 284 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:55,360 couldn't spend the time to write down >> so what happened 285 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,760 » like >> you know and again guilty I I delayed I 286 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,760 actually had it on my calendar and then kind of got 287 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:07,280 » by the wayside with other things but it didn't take that long to actually dig 288 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,960 through it and get it done. >> Well that's why too I want to be more 289 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,360 current because of the turnovers and stuff. You know what I mean? Because if 290 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:17,440 you know >> allows you to catch up. 291 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:22,640 » Yeah. They don't you get that report done with then you 292 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:25,360 this one should be done by the end of the year. 293 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:31,840 » Yeah. Exactly. Theoretically, >> there were we at one time 294 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:38,320 the treasurer's office had asked for the annual report to be submitted with the 295 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:41,919 budget and that forced you to do the annual report with the budget because if 296 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:46,080 you submitted it without the annual report then she would kick it back and 297 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:51,120 say where's your annual report? But then we went away from that because 298 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:56,080 » because you know there was a lot of stuff going on and the budgets are hard 299 00:23:53,360 --> 00:24:00,159 and yeah well every budgets are hard but >> how hard is it? It's a good time for the 300 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,200 entity to do the their annual report too because now you should be looking at 301 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,799 that. Hey did we meet our financial goals from last year? 302 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:08,320 » Exactly. >> Right. [clears throat] Or do we need to 303 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,760 adjust this plan? That's just my opinion. 304 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:16,600 » No it makes sense. So maybe we can try and realign it. Um 305 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600 » yeah, 306 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:23,919 » but yeah. So, um the other thing too would be the dedication. I don't know 307 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:31,120 how we're going to how I'm going to do that. Um cuz last last um meeting we 308 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:35,840 were thinking of Linda Gagney cuz she was the tax collector then but I don't I 309 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,400 mean I don't personally know her or anything so I don't know how I would 310 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:45,919 write a dedication um honor but uh if we do that 311 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,600 » there's enough people at town that you >> I'll have to interview people 312 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,880 » or Katherine could help you do it probably. 313 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:57,120 » Yeah. Or I was gonna see about um Sherry, the town the clerk Sherry. Maybe 314 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:02,480 she could help. >> Uh Chuck Funk would be a good person. 315 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,960 » He was board of finance chair for a while. So he would know her. 316 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:15,120 » Okay. >> She was tax collector when I was chair. 317 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:20,799 » He was tax collector for a long time. >> Okay. Um so yeah. So the only thing I 318 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:26,799 had that's the only thing for next meeting. Um so we may or may not have 319 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:33,039 next meeting just if there's no updates. Uh and then I'll follow up with Sherry 320 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:37,039 to see when we can expect that. And then if anybody else has anything to we want 321 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,840 to discuss. Um >> just let me know too. 322 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:47,039 » Somebody asked me in town to draw up like a flowchart of the administrative 323 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:50,080 process. of, you know, all the boards and 324 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:55,200 commissions, departments, board of finance, how that whole thing. So, I 325 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:58,799 think I'll try to get that done. I got very frustrated using the paint 326 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,937 software. >> God, [laughter] 327 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,080 you know, I'm used to You ever use Mac Flow? Ever hear that? 328 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,559 » No. >> That's a real nice flowcharting 329 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,120 software. >> Oh, yeah. Don't use that too much. 330 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:16,799 » There's not something somewhere. use Excel and just outline the boxes as you 331 00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:20,240 go. >> But there's not 332 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:25,520 » Yeah, because you could do arrows and stuff like that with 333 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:29,440 » there's none of them out there already printed. 334 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:34,640 » There's got to be something somewhere. No, no, thank you. That's that's an 335 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:38,873 excellent tip. [laughter] >> You could just get a chalkboard. 336 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,480 » Yeah, really take a picture of it. [laughter] 337 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:47,360 » I actually thought of that. Seriously, just draw it. Take a picture. [laughter] 338 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:51,318 » It's very convoluted sometimes. There's not wrong about that part. 339 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:55,120 » Yeah. [laughter] 340 00:26:51,919 --> 00:27:00,799 » It's like a stairc um remarks for the good of the board. 341 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:05,200 Thanks for everybody's help. If anybody wants to volunteer for the board of 342 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:13,039 finance section, let me know to write that up. Um and we 343 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,480 are done. Should I make a motion to adjurnn? 344 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,320 » If you'd like to. >> I would love to. 345 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:25,520 » Second. >> Paul. All in favor? 346 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:30,360 » I mean close. 7:30. Thanks, Tim. >> Yeah, I want to make sure that I have 347 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,360 those outstanding. 348 00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:39,240 Yeah, cat does not >> she say she wasn't vering