1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,919 So, uh, today is August 27th. Have we 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:05,680 started recording yet? We started 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,279 recording. This is the planning 4 00:00:07,279 --> 00:00:10,800 committee of Ashlin County, Wisconsin. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,440 Today is Wednesday, August 27th. It's 1 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,240 p.m. And this is the beginning of the 7 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:18,960 planning committee meeting. And to begin 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,119 the meeting, we'd ask the role to be 9 00:00:21,119 --> 00:00:22,960 called. 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,199 Now, one reminder, please. First, please 11 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:28,560 everybody speak into your microphones up 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,439 front, not sitting way back here because 13 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:32,800 it helps a lot for people to able to 14 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,960 hear and it helps the recording because 15 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,239 when we go to do the playback on 16 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:38,640 recording, if people's voices are way 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,440 back here, it's hard to hear. Okay, 18 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,879 thank you. 19 00:00:42,879 --> 00:00:43,760 >> George Buset 20 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,320 >> here. 21 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,800 >> Bradley Ray is excused. Elizabeth 22 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,310 Franic. 23 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,350 online. 24 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Okay. Uh Pat Kenny 25 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,000 >> here. 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,879 >> Gary Mertik 27 00:00:58,879 --> 00:00:59,280 >> here. 28 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,480 >> Dan Grady is excused. Lisa Radkkey. 29 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Charlie Ortman 30 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,000 >> here. 31 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,360 >> Paul Wilharm 32 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,640 >> here. 33 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,479 >> Thank you. 34 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:11,040 >> Okay. So it appears we do have a quorum. 35 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,640 That's seven of our nine committee 36 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,680 members here. So the next item is to 37 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,320 approve the agenda. 38 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:22,240 Is there motion to approve? And once we 39 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,000 get a motion, we can have discussion. Is 40 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,600 there a motion to approve the agenda? 41 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,280 >> I'll move to approve the agenda. 42 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:35,429 >> Mr. Ortman moves to approve. 43 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:36,640 » I'll second. 44 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,520 >> Mr. Wilharm seconds to approve the 45 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,119 agenda. Is there discussion on the 46 00:01:41,119 --> 00:01:43,600 agenda? 47 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,439 Hearing no discussion, we vote on the 48 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:47,600 agenda. All those in favor of accepting 49 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,880 the agenda say I. 50 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,680 >> I. 51 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,159 >> Any opposed. So the agenda is approved. 52 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:56,799 So we'll move on to item number three on 53 00:01:56,799 --> 00:01:59,920 the agenda which is for public comments 54 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,000 and we are open now for public comments 55 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 either online or in present. I see no 56 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,479 persons present for public comment. 57 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:08,080 We're asking to hear if there's anybody 58 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,440 online for public comment. Do we see any 59 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,640 telephone numbers or uh not seeing any 60 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,680 public online or present uh we'll move 61 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 we'll leave public comment at this time 62 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,800 and move on to approval of the prior 63 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,720 meeting minutes. 64 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Do I hear a motion for approval of the 65 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,800 prior hearing minutes? 66 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,000 >> Move to approve. 67 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,840 >> Mr. Ortman moves to approve the prior 68 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,400 meeting minutes was uh July 21st. Is 69 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,309 there a second please? 70 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:40,640 » Wilharm will second. Mr. Wilharm 71 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:44,400 seconds. Is there discussion? 72 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,239 Being no discussion, we will vote. All 73 00:02:46,239 --> 00:02:47,680 those in favor of approving the minutes 74 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,280 as presented, say I. 75 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:49,920 >> I. 76 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:50,879 >> Any opposed? 77 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:51,840 >> I 78 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,360 >> abstensions. 79 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Um minutes are approved. Moving on to 80 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,400 item number five in our agenda. We are 81 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,080 now up to discussion items. Item 5A is 82 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,680 little fun facts or favorite things 83 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,920 about Ashlin County. Uh we'll go around 84 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:09,120 the room starting with Mr. Kenny. Any 85 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:15,430 fun facts of today? 86 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Microphone, please. 87 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,080 I don't have any fun facts today, 88 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,159 Lissa. 89 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:28,560 >> Of course, I have fun facts. Um, 90 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,720 there's a great newspaper artic or an 91 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,360 article in the Glidden newspaper. Um, 92 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Wisconsin State Park campground is rated 93 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,920 one of the best in the United States. 94 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,959 Any guesses? 95 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:44,959 Copper Falls is number 10 best campsite 96 00:03:44,959 --> 00:03:46,959 in the United States according to a 97 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:49,920 national camping magazine and third best 98 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,959 campgrounds in the Midwest by another 99 00:03:52,959 --> 00:03:55,519 Campground magazine. So, I thought that 100 00:03:55,519 --> 00:03:56,879 was cool. And then I'll pass this 101 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:58,319 picture around. It's just kind of fun. 102 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:01,680 It's um from 1973. 103 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,000 It is Deputies of Ashlin County 104 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,920 officials are sworn into official 105 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,439 duties. Apparently, I think it's the 106 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:08,799 county board. It used to be called 107 00:04:08,799 --> 00:04:11,760 Ashlin County Deputies 1973. I don't 108 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,599 know if that rings any bells, but I 109 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:15,200 thought I'd just pass that around. It's 110 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,280 fun. Maybe we know some of the people in 111 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,600 that picture who are representing the 112 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:26,870 county what, 50 years ago. 113 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,160 » Anybody else for fun facts? Mr. Murd? 114 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:50,150 No. 115 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Mr. Wilharm, any fun facts? 116 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,360 >> I'll I'll work on some for next time. 117 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,680 >> Erica, anything? 118 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,919 >> Sorry, I only have scary facts in my 119 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:03,600 brain today. M. 120 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,400 >> Mr. Ortman, 121 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,400 >> my father used to run an engine on the 122 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,320 top of the ordo when the carry mine was 123 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,400 open in uh Ironwood area. 124 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,080 and I think it's the one that's sitting 125 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,080 in the 126 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,199 across from the old depot. 127 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:22,800 Yeah, 128 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,440 pretty cool. Thank you. 129 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,800 Autumn or Emily, you have anything to 130 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,919 say that's fun about Ashlin County? No. 131 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:34,240 Oh, you got to work on that. Uh, 132 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,880 you have anything to offer? 133 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,000 You know, you can't Oh, go. Uh so I work 134 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,600 also in the zoning department and we 135 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,240 have issued the annual permit for the 136 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,600 northern aged iron uh annual event that 137 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,320 happens every year out in hybrbridge and 138 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,039 Lynn Brenamman told me that Discover 139 00:05:57,039 --> 00:06:00,160 Wisconsin has contacted them and we'll 140 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,360 be doing another uniquely um Wisconsin 141 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,039 video at their event. And so just keep 142 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:11,189 promoting Ashlin County, 143 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:12,720 » okay? 144 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,800 I have, you know, you don't know whether 145 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,560 you can trust what you do on online 146 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,880 research these days because, you know, 147 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,560 the AI summaries could tell you anything 148 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,960 that might or may not be true, but uh 149 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,800 this claims to be a documented from the 150 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,919 Library of Congress uh dated January 151 00:06:27,919 --> 00:06:30,160 1937. 152 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,160 And it says that um it's from the 153 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,000 narrative of Mr. Leonard. Mr. Leonard 154 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,919 worked for the warehouser lumber company 155 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:39,680 and managed log drives for them. He said 156 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,759 following break up of the ice in the 157 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:44,800 lakes and rivers when sufficient water 158 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,120 was in the dams the drive would start. 159 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,160 The camps and independent loggers inland 160 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,000 along the tributaries of the main 161 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,840 waterways would blast and peeve the logs 162 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,880 from the rollways into the water and 163 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,000 drive to the main lake or stream. Upon 164 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,840 reaching Clam Lake or the West Fork of 165 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:10,160 the Chipa River, all logs were turned 166 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,280 over to the Chipoa Lumber and Boom 167 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Company Corporation, the warehouser 168 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,599 corporation. The corporate drive on the 169 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:23,840 west fork covered about 160 miles from 170 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Clam Lake to Flambo farm. From this 171 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,919 point, many logs went on rafts to 172 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:33,440 Lacrosse, Wisconsin, Winona, Minnesota, 173 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Clinton, and Deuke, Iowa. 174 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,080 So, that's part of the history of that 175 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,440 southwestern corner of Ashlin County. 176 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,759 And uh this is a story that I maybe I'll 177 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:45,599 bring up next time. Does anybody know 178 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:48,160 what a wanigan is? 179 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,919 A wanigan 180 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:53,280 was a raft built of logs to go down 181 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,840 river with the with the drive. And they 182 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,479 were usually about 60 ft long and 18 ft 183 00:07:58,479 --> 00:08:00,960 wide. You put a cook shack on one and a 184 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 tent shack on another. And this was like 185 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,199 the the floating living quarters for the 186 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:07,599 loggers that drove the logs downstream. 187 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:10,080 So that's my fun fact for today. Any 188 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,589 more fun facts? 189 00:08:15,599 --> 00:08:17,759 Thanks to artificial intelligence. Yes. 190 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:20,400 Okay. So, going on beyond we move on to 191 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,680 item 5B which is the working status of 192 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,360 the Northwest Regional Planning 193 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Corporation to work with us. And these 194 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,360 are the items uh requested by by Emily 195 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,719 Nelson who we have the pleasure of 196 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:34,640 having with us. So, for this part of the 197 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,800 meeting, I'm turning this over to Emily 198 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,519 and letting you proceed with uh what you 199 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:40,399 have to tell us. 200 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:41,599 >> Thank you. I'll start with an 201 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:44,640 introduction. Emily now Boucher as of 202 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,560 two weeks ago 203 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,959 um a community development specialist 204 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:50,640 with Northwest Regional Planning. I've 205 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 been there for about six years and then 206 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,560 with me today I have 207 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,480 I'm Autumn Tommy. I'm the assistant 208 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,480 planner at Northwest Regional Planning. 209 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,000 So I've been there in total just over 210 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,920 two years as in my position about six to 211 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,190 seven months. 212 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,839 And I will 213 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:16,080 looks like my screen is sharing. But I 214 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,200 wanted to begin by recognizing all the 215 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,720 work that this committee has done 216 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,000 already in preparing for the 217 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,560 comprehensive plan update process. And 218 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,160 the update is a little bit different 219 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,560 than creating the original plan. The 220 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,760 most extensive work was done in 2006 221 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,160 uh with and then with the 2016 update uh 222 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 serving as a refinement to that 2006 223 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,360 plan and now we're focusing on carrying 224 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,160 that work forward and ensuring that the 225 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,000 plan continues to serve as a useful 226 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,800 guide for decision-making in the county. 227 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,480 And since this is Northwest Regional 228 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,200 Planning's first in-person facilitated 229 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,920 meeting with the county, um I'd like to 230 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,680 start with an overview of the planning 231 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,760 process. Some of you saw this earlier 232 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,120 um as part of a county board meeting uh 233 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,200 this winter, but today we'll make sure 234 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,720 everyone is starting from the same 235 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,040 place. We'll walk through the update 236 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,079 process and some of the protocols for 237 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:18,720 that, a review of the timeline that we 238 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,160 have, and then to clarify the 239 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,480 committee's role and responsibilities 240 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:28,550 moving forward in the plan update. 241 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,600 So, Wisconsin statute 6610001 242 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,440 is the Wisconsin comprehensive planning 243 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,279 law. It provides the framework for 244 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:37,360 comprehensive planning in the state of 245 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,959 Wisconsin. 246 00:10:38,959 --> 00:10:41,440 It requires communities to adopt a plan 247 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,160 that looks ahead 20 years and it is 248 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,920 defined as a guide to the physical, 249 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,320 social and economic development of the 250 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,640 county with an outlook of 20 years. The 251 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,240 statute also emphasizes implementation 252 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,399 meaning the plan has to include programs 253 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:00,240 and actions with measurable outcomes 254 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,720 within it. And then to remain effective 255 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,959 and legally compliant, 256 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:06,640 uh the plan has to be updated at least 257 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,600 once every 10 years. So that's why this 258 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,640 update is so important. It ensures that 259 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,600 the plan continues to be meaningful and 260 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,560 legally supported as a guide for the 261 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:23,590 county's decision-m 262 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,959 and then Wisconsin's. Yes, 263 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:29,279 >> this committee is a standing committee 264 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:31,440 as opposed to an ad hoc. Now on that 265 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,440 previous screen with updating every 10 266 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,240 years one of the questions I have as we 267 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,480 go through this planning process what 268 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,800 constitutes the plan having been updated 269 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,480 so let's say 3 years from now there's a 270 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,560 major issue that comes up we come back 271 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,560 to the comp plan a bit is there a 272 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,200 certain criteria level that's 273 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,000 >> that constitutes having been updated 274 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,920 >> within the statutes there's nothing that 275 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,720 defines what an update is but at minimum 276 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,200 it must include the public participation 277 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,959 plan adoption 278 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:03,760 and then um the 30-day public comment 279 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,399 period as well as the public hearing and 280 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:10,399 then the resolution by this committee 281 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:12,800 and then that would go to the county 282 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,000 board for um adoption of an updated 283 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,399 ordinance on the comprehensive plan. So 284 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:20,639 there's a protocol but not so much as 285 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,560 what the content revisions have to 286 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:24,079 include. 287 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:25,519 >> Okay. Thank you. 288 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:29,350 >> You're welcome. 289 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,720 So, does that mean at some point the 290 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,880 board couldn't decide to modify a 291 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,079 chapter or something? 292 00:12:36,079 --> 00:12:36,639 >> Yes. 293 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:38,800 >> Without without a public hearing and all 294 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,120 that or could we have that done? 295 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,079 >> It is not complete until that formal 296 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:47,360 public participation process. But we we 297 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,040 could change it and live by it. And 298 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,120 >> yes, it's a living document that could 299 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,839 be continuously modified and should be 300 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:57,279 reviewed continuously and used 301 00:12:57,279 --> 00:12:58,160 frequently. 302 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 >> But at least at 10 years, we would have 303 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,399 to get that looked at by everybody and 304 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:04,480 get their feedback on any changes we had 305 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,920 made prior to the 306 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 >> importance of that is that it then would 307 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,680 remain a legally defensible plan. 308 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:16,470 >> Thank you. 309 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Uh just adding to Charlie's comment, it 310 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,399 occurs to me that is u that the planning 311 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:25,200 committee can recommend to the county 312 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,959 board subsidiary planning activities 313 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:32,240 within the context of the standing 314 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,639 comprehensive plan without altering the 315 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:36,800 comprehensive plan. In other words, 316 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,399 there's nothing to prevent a planning 317 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,800 committee from planning other things 318 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,639 that are fit within the context of the 319 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,639 overall plan. So if there's a specific 320 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:46,639 action that someone wants to bring 321 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:49,120 forward three years down the line and it 322 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,360 fits within the context of the plan, 323 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,800 then it can be brought forward to the 324 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,120 county board without revising the plan 325 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 per se. 326 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,240 >> Think you can change it actually. This 327 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,240 just a change that would have to be 328 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,880 viewed by the public. Yes. 10 years. 329 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,160 >> Yep. 330 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,199 >> Or however frequent or often changes 331 00:14:09,199 --> 00:14:15,030 should be made or would like to be made. 332 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Okay, just so I'm clear. 333 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:17,680 >> Yes. 334 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:20,160 >> Uh, microphone, please. 335 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,120 >> Sorry. So, just so I'm clear, we go 336 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,880 through all this and then we get it 337 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,360 approved and Dad Cap signs off on it and 338 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,720 then two years from now and we make 339 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,560 significant changes to a different 340 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,720 chapter, we put them in ourselves and we 341 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,680 live by them. That's okay. But we got to 342 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,480 present that. We could at any time 343 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,440 present that for official 344 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,600 but we have to do it at least in 10 345 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,920 years. Yes. But we can we can modify it 346 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,600 any way we like within that time frame 347 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,639 and live by it. 348 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:48,959 >> Correct. 349 00:14:48,959 --> 00:14:50,079 >> And it's still official. 350 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:52,480 >> Then that cap has the responsibility for 351 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,720 the farmland preservation plan part of 352 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,880 the comprehensive plan. And then the 353 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,000 comprehensive plan itself, the Wisconsin 354 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,399 Department of Administration 355 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:04,399 only requires that every time that the 356 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:07,839 plan is updated that the ordinance 357 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:11,120 and the adoption date be provided to 358 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Wisconsin Department of Administration 359 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,880 so they're aware of it. 360 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,120 >> Okay. 361 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,240 >> And they keep a database of all of the 362 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,880 um adopted plans in the whole state. 363 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,880 >> That's amazing. 364 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,800 >> I guess we need further discussion a 365 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,040 little bit. It's my understanding of the 366 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,639 statute that counties are required to 367 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,199 act consistent with their comprehensive 368 00:15:33,199 --> 00:15:34,720 plan 369 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,959 uh with possibility for some exceptions 370 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:41,760 that are can be justified. So if there 371 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,760 were some kind of update that was 372 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,639 inconsistent with the plan, 373 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:49,839 then that would be out of bounds unless 374 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:52,720 it was a special situation and therefore 375 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,399 you would have to go through a public 376 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,639 hearing process to update your plan. 377 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:01,199 But you could have planning actions 378 00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:03,759 subsidiary to the exist the plan to the 379 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:05,920 comprehensive plan. just everyday 380 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,560 planning action that is as long as it's 381 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,720 consistent with the overall 382 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,759 comprehensive plan, then it's fine. You 383 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:14,959 don't have to change anything in your 384 00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:17,199 comprehensive plan. But it could be a 385 00:16:17,199 --> 00:16:20,639 detail, an action item, a goal that is 386 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:22,560 consistent with your comprehensive plan 387 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,399 that you hadn't thought of earlier and 388 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:26,800 you can go ahead and move on that 389 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,480 without changing your comprehensive 390 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,600 plan. But if you want to change a major 391 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,920 principle of a comprehensive plan, then 392 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,040 you would have to go through a public 393 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,949 hearing process. 394 00:16:38,959 --> 00:16:45,590 » Any other questions? 395 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,160 And then taking a look at the content of 396 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,399 the comprehensive plan, the 397 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,399 comprehensive planning law, that's 398 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:55,040 chapter 6610001, 399 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,759 requires that every comprehensive plan 400 00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,839 covers at least nine topics which the 401 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:02,800 statutes refers to as elements and it 402 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,720 also specifies what needs to be included 403 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,199 in each of those elements. So the first 404 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:08,959 element typically in a comprehensive 405 00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:10,959 plan I think that Ashlin counties is a 406 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:12,400 little different and put this at the end 407 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,880 of the document currently is the issues 408 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,039 and opportunities which serves as the 409 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:19,039 introduction to the plan. It's meant to 410 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:21,600 be the community demographics talking 411 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,959 about um key trends along with 412 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:27,360 projections for things like population, 413 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,039 household 414 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:30,799 and 415 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:34,400 uh land use. 416 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,400 And the second element is housing. It 417 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,160 looks at existing and projected housing 418 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,400 needs and trends in the county. The 419 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,400 third element being transportation 420 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,799 looking at anything transportation 421 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:46,960 related any of the different modes of 422 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,679 transportation as well as other sort of 423 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:51,360 planning documents related to 424 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:55,840 transportation that exist in the state. 425 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,360 And then utilities and community 426 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:58,880 facilities that describes the 427 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,640 infrastructure and the services that 428 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,880 support the residents of the county. 429 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,880 things like sewer and water, storm 430 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,000 water, schools, parks, um emergency 431 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,320 services. 432 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,000 The fifth element, agricultural, 433 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,720 natural, and cultural resources that 434 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,799 focuses on the county's physical and 435 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:19,200 environmental assets 436 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,240 as well as the cultural heritage. And in 437 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,960 a lot of cases, these can overlap. So 438 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,720 resource might be both natural and 439 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,039 cultural in the county. And that 440 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:32,400 probably occurs a lot in Ashlin County. 441 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 The sixth element is economic 442 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,559 development that looks at existing 443 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,480 conditions and strategies to support 444 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,120 businesses, the labor force, jobs, a 445 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,280 healthy economy. And then the seventh 446 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,640 element, intergovernmental cooperation 447 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,480 that highlights the importance of 448 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,679 coordinating with other jurisdictions, 449 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:53,039 neighboring counties, tribal 450 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:55,280 governments, school districts, and state 451 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,520 and federal agencies. 452 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,840 And then we have the land use element 453 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,360 that describes current land use 454 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,200 patterns. So that there's an existing 455 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,120 land use map of what's currently 456 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,840 happening today. And then a guide where 457 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,360 and how the future growth and 458 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,039 development of the county should occur. 459 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:14,000 And that includes a future land use map. 460 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,160 Looking 20 years into the future, what 461 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,720 sort of land use do you want in Ashlin 462 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,480 County? 463 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,919 And then implementation. 464 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:26,320 It identifies the programs and actions 465 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,880 needed to carry out the plan along with 466 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,720 any of those measurable steps to track 467 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,360 the progress of the plan within its 468 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:36,950 10-year lifespan. 469 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 So together, these nine elements create 470 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,760 a comprehensive plan framework to guide 471 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,520 the county decision-making over that 472 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,000 20-year period. So it's a plan written 473 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,760 with a 20-year outlook with a 474 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,520 requirement of being updated at least 475 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,630 once every 10 years. 476 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,880 And then as George was talking about the 477 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,039 consistency requirement. So the 478 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:01,280 comprehensive plan is an advisory 479 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 document but it still carries legal 480 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,000 significance. 481 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,080 And the statute states that beginning 482 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,679 January 1 of 2010 any new or amended 483 00:20:11,679 --> 00:20:14,160 zoning land division or official mapping 484 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,880 ordinances have to be consistent with an 485 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,679 adopted comprehensive plan. and the 486 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:22,080 statutes defined consistent with to mean 487 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,240 the ordinance furthers or at least does 488 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,000 not contradict 489 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,799 the plan's goals and policies. 490 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:31,520 So the comprehensive plan by clearly 491 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,919 documenting community priorities 492 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:38,240 um it helps to strengthen the legal 493 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,640 defensibility of the land use ordinances 494 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,640 that are within Ashlin County and it 495 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,880 ensures that future development in the 496 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:51,110 county aligns with the county's vision. 497 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,600 And again the the comprehensive plan is 498 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,840 adopted by ordinance 499 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,000 but it's in itself it's not a 500 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,679 regulation. 501 00:20:59,679 --> 00:21:01,440 Instead it serves as a guiding document 502 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,480 that provides a rational basis for 503 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,440 legally defensible land use decisions. 504 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,799 And an example would be that if a 505 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:14,240 property owner requests to reszone um 506 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,760 farmland for a housing development, the 507 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,760 plan, the comprehensive plan for Ashlin 508 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,600 County helps the county determine 509 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,440 whether that change would align with 510 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,760 community goals and ensures that that 511 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,960 decision is made in a consistent and 512 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,080 defensible way. Yep. I'm going to ask a 513 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,520 question and I really want to just leave 514 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 it as a question and not go off into a 515 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,480 long discussion on this topic as Charlie 516 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,640 and I and some others would. I'm on the 517 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,240 zoning committee for the county also and 518 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Charlie are are on the farmland 519 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760 preservation committee. We had a meeting 520 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,840 yesterday as Autumn knows and we talked 521 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,799 about the spreading of human septic and 522 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:53,679 the lack of information that we know. We 523 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:57,360 think we can be informed of a dot on a 524 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,440 map of every um square mile or section. 525 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,120 I think both terms were used. A section 526 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,720 is, you know, a mile by a mile. Um and 527 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,120 so as I think about housing and I think 528 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,039 about in Bayfield County, land I own 529 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:13,360 just a bit over a quarter mile east is 530 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,360 one of the bigger sites where this stuff 531 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,200 is spread. Thankfully, the wind is 532 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,039 usually blowing from my place to theirs 533 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:20,960 so I don't have to deal with it um 534 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,440 except occasionally. But if we think 535 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,840 about zoning and housing and PAS in that 536 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,280 septic, and I understand why the 537 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,799 government doesn't want to tell you 538 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:34,400 exactly who's fighting what where 539 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,679 because of the complaints because we 540 00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:37,280 went through that 20 years ago when that 541 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,720 started in our neck of the woods. So I 542 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,840 understand the government not wanting to 543 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,919 tell that. But I also think about as we 544 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:44,400 do zoning and people wanting to drill 545 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,039 wells, raise a garden vegetable. So we 546 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:49,280 know the PAS comes up into you know 547 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,080 plants it can bioaccumulate including in 548 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,559 the hay. My so my question is and this 549 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:56,559 is just to take back and for a later 550 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:59,679 date is how do we make an informed 551 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:03,039 decision about the risks of the land 552 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,200 that we might designate for housing or 553 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,400 housing developments so that as a county 554 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,320 we're doing the best we can to help 555 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,240 people understand 556 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320 the property on which they might be 557 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,200 living or building and so that someone 558 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,039 doesn't later say well I wish I would 559 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:23,679 have known and who do I blame and who do 560 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:25,919 I why sue and so that's the question I 561 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:28,320 have um Jason yesterday with our meeting 562 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,760 in autumn you can talk to Autumn on the 563 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,640 way back if they wrote together. Um I 564 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,000 think it's becoming a more important 565 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,760 question and I don't know from a zoning 566 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,909 perspective how we wrestle with that. 567 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:44,480 I think good to think about both as a 568 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,919 full committee but also good for 569 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:47,360 Northwest Regional Planning to think 570 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,919 about as someone on the outside 571 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:54,149 facilitating the process. 572 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:56,480 Can I ask a quick um question? Is is 573 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720 there something then in mapping like an 574 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,480 overlay that would map out where land 575 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,320 was that was spread? Is that something 576 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,200 that you would put in your land um 577 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,799 mapping and land use chapter? 578 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:11,760 you want? 579 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,679 >> Well, I'll say it so she doesn't have 580 00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:18,000 to. Um, we have there's dots on the map, 581 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,559 but they are not specific enough so that 582 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,720 we know which property it's on. We don't 583 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960 have history. We don't have if it's 584 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,960 actively used or not. And so like I'll 585 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,640 say Bayfield County, I'll take it out of 586 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,640 Ashlin County, my property, a dot on the 587 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760 map there, um it would not delineate 588 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080 between where it's being spread a bit 589 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,159 over a quarter mile east of me, nor my 590 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:43,360 property. And so if I were looking for 591 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,039 property to build on, and trust me, I 592 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,600 get people that ask me if I'm ready to 593 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,200 sell. Um I think people want to know the 594 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,600 history of what's there. But if so, if I did want to sell at some point and 595 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,600 this map shows that there's something 596 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,000 being spread potentially there, I also 597 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,960 want to be able to tell people no, 598 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,640 there's not. That map is not precise 599 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,640 enough. So, they just won't give us that 600 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,320 history because it's a permitted use and 601 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,000 for whatever reason, I think they just 602 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,760 don't want push back from the public. 603 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,600 It's not information that they share 604 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,600 with the public, which surprises me 605 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,679 because I would really like to know the 606 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:24,000 history of what land has been permitted 607 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,080 and they track the records and the usage 608 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,559 there just so people when they buy and 609 00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:30,240 sell land and think about putting in a 610 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,440 house, raising a garden. Um, I would not 611 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 want to raise a garden in soil where 612 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,919 there's a history of spreading that, 613 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:39,279 especially in the era of 614 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,520 pharmaceuticals, you know, stuff that's 615 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,360 not breaking down. I wouldn't want to 616 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,919 raise a garden there. And yet people are 617 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:48,400 putting in gardens in places and they 618 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,600 don't know that history. And I it might 619 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000 be a Wisconsin legislature issue that 620 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320 somebody has to bring forward to them. 621 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Um but locally, no, we can't get that 622 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720 information is our understanding at this 623 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,830 point. 624 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,360 Darling, 625 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,440 >> I'm pretty sure it would have to be 626 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,039 released for the Freedom of Information 627 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:13,120 Act request, but just on the face of it, 628 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,600 for the reasons Pat stated and now that 629 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840 we can see the other issues, not just 630 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,919 farmers, but we need to know that stuff. 631 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:22,720 We need a profile of all the pollution, 632 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,120 potential pollution, and we need to know 633 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,440 how far it's spread off. Just cuz it's 634 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,279 in one spot, we need to know that exact 635 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:30,640 spot. And then we need to be able to 636 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,039 test to see where if it is polluted, 637 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,720 it's stopped. What are the boundaries? 638 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,880 And right now it's there's no push to 639 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:46,720 when we ask we get no no not now. And then the rather large X they give us 640 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,480 for a for a spot and there's over 641 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,159 there's a hundred plus of them just in 642 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:54,640 this count. So I might do an FOIA just 643 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,279 >> FYI. So this raises a question, right? 644 00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:59,520 So, this is for future consideration. 645 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,799 And I think we've got the question. 646 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,720 Maybe we could carry on. 647 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960 >> That sounds good. I just have one quick 648 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360 question. This is where county comp 649 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,640 plans always um sort of confuse me. So, 650 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,799 the last slide is um the comp plan does 651 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,360 not have the same rule of law, so to 652 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,960 speak, as an ordinance. But um Bayfield 653 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,799 County just went through the sighting of 654 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,760 a cell tower which in their plan comp 655 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080 plan said we don't want such things 656 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,320 because of aesthetics and egg 657 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,840 >> aesthetics and that kind of thing but 658 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,799 the tower went in. So it's how how do 659 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,880 how are decisions made that might go 660 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,960 against a comp plan? They just like an 661 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,480 overrule of 662 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,600 >> Yeah. So if a sounds like it was not 663 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,520 consistent with the comprehensive plan 664 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:53,039 for that decision, but if there were no one came forward with any um legal 665 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,080 issues related to that um it moved 666 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640 forward. 667 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,279 >> Point of information, I hope I'm not 668 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:02,880 remembering this incorrectly, but I 669 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,120 believe the uh the last comprehensive 670 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,080 plan was adopted as an ordinance, which 671 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,440 is kind of interesting point of view, 672 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,960 isn't it? Yep. 673 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440 A comprehensive plan is adopted by 674 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760 ordinance by the governing body. So that 675 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,960 would be the county board. 676 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,039 >> That would make the count county plan 677 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,200 comprehensive plan the law under the 678 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,720 ordinance. 679 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,039 >> Sorry, I thought that last slide said my 680 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,840 not compreh comprehensive plan does not 681 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000 equal an ordinance on your last 682 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,640 >> not in and of itself, but it is adopted 683 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,080 by ordinance. 684 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,679 >> adopted by an ordinance. 685 00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:41,440 >> Yes. in itself it's an advisory document 686 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440 and then the legal standing comes from 687 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840 this consistency requirement for 688 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,799 anything land use related. 689 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,120 >> So that's the key word the consistency. 690 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,679 >> Mhm. 691 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:52,240 >> Okay. 692 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,679 >> And then there's also that same 693 00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:55,279 consistency with the farmland 694 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,440 preservation plan and the comprehensive 695 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,470 plan 696 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,679 » on the cell tower. It's similar to say a 697 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:06,480 gravel pit or spreading septic. There's 698 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,159 it's a permitted process that's legal 699 00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:13,200 and if you go through the process, you 700 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,279 get your permit. So whether people want 701 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,240 the cell tower or not, the state has a 702 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 process where you can get a permit for 703 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,600 that. So you can't be more restrictive 704 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000 than state or federal law. So for 705 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,840 example, if a township says, "Nope, we 706 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,600 don't want human septic spread in our 707 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,080 township." Well, if you meet the 708 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,320 requirements for the DNR through the 709 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,760 permitting process, you can spread. And 710 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,679 same with gravel pits and other things 711 00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:39,679 like that. And so, as we go through this 712 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:42,799 comp plan, it's really helpful um to the 713 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,399 extent that we can be be aware of where 714 00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:48,480 what our limits are on what we can 715 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,360 restrict because it might be, oh, we 716 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,960 don't want this, that, or the other. But 717 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,520 guess what? if it's um allowed and 718 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,679 there's a permitting process, the best 719 00:29:57,679 --> 00:29:59,760 we can do is say like with the kayo is 720 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,320 say, okay, townships can still have 721 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,159 weight limits, you know, so you can't 722 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:05,840 haul loads that are too heavy in the 723 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,600 spring and wreck your road. So townships 724 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,039 can do that because that is allowed to 725 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:10,640 have weight limits, but there's other 726 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,799 things that you, you know, you just 727 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,600 can't control. So 728 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,120 >> important to remember. 729 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,679 >> Yeah. And cell towers fell into what 730 00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:21,279 happened there. There were people that 731 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:22,640 were concerned, but 732 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,360 >> yeah, I've seen that a lot in smaller 733 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440 towns with the recent expansion of 734 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,960 Dollar Generals around. Towns don't 735 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,880 necessarily want to have that kind of 736 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,440 development, but they follow the process 737 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,470 to do so. 738 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,600 And then back to the presentation, the 739 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,389 public participation plan. 740 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:51,120 This is something that is a formal 741 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,960 document that's required by the 742 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,440 comprehensive planning law. 743 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,919 And to meet that requirement, the county 744 00:30:57,919 --> 00:30:59,919 board approves a formal public 745 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:01,919 participation plan which lays out how 746 00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,080 the community members will have 747 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,120 opportunities to be involved or be part 748 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,480 be um asked to participate um in the 749 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,039 plan update process. And this committee, 750 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,120 I know, played an important role in 751 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,279 shaping that formal document, the public 752 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,600 participation plan. And I understand 753 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240 that that public participation plan was 754 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,399 formally adopted by the county board 755 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:27,600 this July. And this is also a sort of 756 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080 living document that can be amended as 757 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:37,909 we go through the planning process. 758 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:40,159 And then the planning committee. So as 759 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:41,760 the planning committee, you all play an 760 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,279 important role in the process. You serve 761 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,600 as a sounding board for any feedback on 762 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,960 the plan update. You're the entity that 763 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,039 helps to encourage um community 764 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,440 involvement in the plan update process. 765 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,679 And then you're also the reviewers of 766 00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:00,000 the draft plan materials and you share 767 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,519 your comments in your local perspective 768 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,919 and your local expertise. 769 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:06,080 And then at the end of this process, 770 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,840 you'll also be the entity that 771 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,480 recommends the draft plan to the county 772 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,279 board for approval. And then Northwest 773 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,559 Regional Planning's role in this is to 774 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,519 facilitate the process, provide any sort 775 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,679 of technical expertise that we can, and 776 00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:23,360 then help to prepare all of the plan 777 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,919 materials and make sure all of the 778 00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:28,159 statutory requirements are met for the 779 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:32,310 update. 780 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,509 and then a community survey. 781 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,080 Um, as part of the scope of this plan 782 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760 update, 783 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,840 it includes the opportunity for 784 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,320 deploying an online public survey or 785 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,799 community survey to help inform the 786 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,919 comprehensive plan update. So within 787 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:53,919 this capacity, Northwest Regional 788 00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:55,360 Planning would assist with survey 789 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,559 question development. Um set up that 790 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,200 survey using a platform called ARGIS 791 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360 survey 123 792 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,360 and then at the end of that prepare a 793 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,399 summary report to analyze those survey 794 00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:10,000 results so that we could use those 795 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,519 throughout the uh plan update review. 796 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,679 And then the county's role would be to 797 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:17,440 help provide input on those survey 798 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,760 questions, distribute and promote the 799 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,159 survey through any of the channels 800 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:25,039 available, website, newspaper, radio, 801 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,039 and then again using those survey 802 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,240 results to help guide the update. Is 803 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,600 that I want to make sure that's 804 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840 something we want to do for this update. 805 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320 First of all, 806 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,559 moving forward with a community survey 807 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,000 because that's something we'll want to 808 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 do right away. One of the first things 809 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,200 we'll need to do is um the survey 810 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,509 questions. 811 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,240 » Uh if I'm recalling, I think we agreed 812 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,760 at our last meeting that we would want 813 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,120 to do the survey. 814 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,600 >> Okay. 815 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,799 >> I'm trying to remember whether I 816 00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,399 volunteered to help with the qu 817 00:33:58,399 --> 00:33:59,840 questions, but I don't think we have the 818 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,279 questions together yet. 819 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:02,240 >> Uh Pat, 820 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,799 >> I do know that we this we can talk about 821 00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:08,800 it more in depth at um I think later on. 822 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,560 there's an agenda item for the survey, 823 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,159 but I do have some example survey 824 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,159 questions. And then I know that there 825 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,520 was a 2006 survey that I have not seen. 826 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,800 So I don't know if any of those 827 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,800 questions we could also use for this 828 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,909 update. 829 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:27,119 » Anybody else comments? 830 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,149 Okay. 831 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,679 » Are you going to use the same questions 832 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,200 through each of the formats that this 833 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,109 would go out in? 834 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:41,200 is so this would be only enough capacity 835 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,599 for an online community survey. So, my 836 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,119 comment on this is going to be, and I 837 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,119 know you guys know this, Ashlin County 838 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,879 at the moment doesn't have the greatest 839 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:53,440 of internet access throughout the whole 840 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,800 county, but hopefully that's changing 841 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,879 because we've got some grant money 842 00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:00,240 coming in. And so, if you do online 843 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,720 only, you're going to get a heavy bias 844 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,800 towards those with internet access means 845 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,119 the city of Ashland voice will be louder 846 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,599 than the southern part of Ashland. that 847 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:11,359 could bring a bias into the results 848 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:13,440 because of the rather large difference 849 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,640 in internet access. So we'd want to try 850 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880 to make sure we get a representative 851 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,440 >> think about 852 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,280 >> example or at least the data that you 853 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,520 collect if you can tell somehow where it 854 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,119 comes from you know say butternut and 855 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:26,880 glidden if there's a question that 856 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,359 identifies hopefully there is where they 857 00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:30,320 live 858 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040 >> then you might wait you know because 859 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,480 you're going to get fewer responses from 860 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,000 some of those areas because of less 861 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,960 internet access but then you wait those 862 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,200 to balance out I would assume a higher 863 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,960 response rate from within the city 864 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,800 >> and then in some of those areas is are 865 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,839 there public spaces that do have 866 00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:50,560 internet access like town halls or 867 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560 community centers or libraries that you 868 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,000 could direct people to? 869 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000 >> Not not in the southern part, but what 870 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,760 we could do is make sure when the survey 871 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,160 goes out, we send it to the town of 872 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,280 >> Yeah, that's a good idea. 873 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,880 >> Then at their town meeting, they could 874 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,640 bring it up and say, "Hey, does 875 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640 everybody aware that there's a survey 876 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,000 out there?" 877 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800 >> Um because smaller towns, that's kind of 878 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,599 the hub of information. But if we had to 879 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,680 and we have all their addresses, all the 880 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,200 town 881 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,960 chairman and that we could send it to 882 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,069 them. 883 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,760 » And I would offer that extension could 884 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,200 help with a hard copy version. I've 885 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 already been doing some preliminary work 886 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,920 with um seniors through different groups 887 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,400 I'm working with that might not ever 888 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,800 even if they have broadband might not 889 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,320 access an online platform. But if we 890 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,240 gave them a print copy, you know, we 891 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:48,320 could help with the um data input 892 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,960 because I know how those surveys online, 893 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200 they just start calculating responses, 894 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,960 but if you got paper copies, you know, 895 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960 we could help with inputting it into the 896 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,160 system somehow. 897 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,960 >> Sounds like it could be a good 898 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:16,150 progress toward a solution. 899 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,880 edges of the 900 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,800 8,000 people. 901 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,320 >> Can I use this microphone, please? 902 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,880 >> I'm sorry. I was suggesting that we 903 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,560 spend uh we look at spending the most 904 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,079 trying to reach the outer edges of the 905 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,200 county because the city of Ashland is is 906 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920 all coll-located and easier to reach 907 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,760 through, you know, other means than the edges 908 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,400 um like notices in the paper and things 909 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,200 like that. So an online survey Pat was 910 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,280 mentioning would would tend to skew the 911 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,359 results towards Ashland City because 912 00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:57,359 we've all got internet. So take that 913 00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:59,200 money for the online you would do here 914 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,880 and find other better means to reach the 915 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,640 edges because it's very unlikely we 916 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,880 won't get input enough input from the 917 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,040 city of Ashland regardless of what we 918 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,990 use. Just my thoughts. Thank you. 919 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,839 Uh, so that's Liz online. 920 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,680 >> Yes, I'm on the phone. 921 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,280 >> Okay. Just want to make sure everybody 922 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,720 knows that you're here. That's Liz 923 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:27,440 Franic online. Okay. 924 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,200 Give it back to you, Emily. 925 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,119 >> Right. All good thoughts on the survey. 926 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:36,950 We'll talk about it more, too. 927 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,280 » And then the actual plan structure, the 928 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,839 physical document 929 00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,480 is made up of three main parts. The 930 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,320 first is the background report which 931 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160 examines the current and historical 932 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,480 data, looks at the trends and develops 933 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,640 forecasts for the future. And that's 934 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,839 your volume one of your comprehensive 935 00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:58,320 plan. And then is there's the mapping 936 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,040 also found in the volume one which are 937 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,880 all of the maps that visually show 938 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,680 resources and conditions found in the 939 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,839 background report 940 00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:09,359 as well as a map representing the 941 00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:11,440 county's vision for future land use. So 942 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,720 that's the future land use map. And then 943 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,640 the third component that's found in your 944 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,160 volume two of your comprehensive plan is 945 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,400 the vision and the implementation which 946 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,359 sets our goals and our objectives the 947 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:27,359 desired future conditions for Ashlin 948 00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:29,280 County and outlines actions for 949 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,440 achieving the comprehensive plans 950 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,440 vision. Yes. 951 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:41,440 >> Okay. So I have a a question on this structure. Um, it's puzzling to me 952 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,720 to start out a document of this nature 953 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:47,760 with background information. It makes 954 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,920 sense from a developmental point of view 955 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,040 from developing the plan. But if I'm a 956 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,800 user, I'm someone who's thinking to come 957 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,960 to Ashlin County from Minneapolis for 958 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,640 business and I want to look into this 959 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,480 plan, 960 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,520 I really expect to see the vision and 961 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,000 the uh the opportunities and risk and 962 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,640 opportunities up front and the 963 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,800 background in support of that. So is 964 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,280 there a reason that we've put background 965 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,040 as the first element? I don't understand 966 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,680 that. 967 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160 >> As far the volume one and volume two 968 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:18,960 that currently exist 969 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,400 >> Yes. Yeah. Why why is the background 970 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,599 information volume one instead of the 971 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:25,119 vision being volume one? 972 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,720 >> Is anyone who was a part of the previous 973 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,280 >> from Oh, go ahead. 974 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,000 >> Well, part of it was um all of that 975 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,880 background data is supposed to be the 976 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,359 information that drives your goals and 977 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:43,839 objectives and actions. And so, um, the 978 00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:47,040 main reason is here's what your county 979 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,800 looks like. Here's what your issues are. 980 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,400 Here's what your challenges are. And 981 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200 from that, you develop your goals and 982 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,000 objectives and strategies. And, correct 983 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,680 me if I'm wrong, Gary, you're looking at 984 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,280 it, but in the very beginning of part 985 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,079 one, I thought it had the um um like 986 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,560 issues and and 987 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,280 trends. 988 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,040 Yeah. in the first part. Um, but you 989 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,280 know, I helped the town of Morris write 990 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,760 an emergency operations plan and we had 991 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,599 that same question. So, we just moved 992 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,920 all of the actions to the very front and 993 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,520 there's an emergency, you grab that 994 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,280 plan, everything you need to do is right 995 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,480 there. I think you could get away with 996 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,119 changing the order, but really because 997 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,599 they're physically separated, it seems 998 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,000 like it's easy enough to find your goals 999 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,160 and actions. And hopefully there's money 1000 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,319 somewhere to make a user-friendly 1001 00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:44,880 version of just the actions, vision, and 1002 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:54,790 um objectives. 1003 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,720 when you were speaking 1004 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,359 >> you sorry when you were talking I was 1005 00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:01,359 like that makes a lot of sense why 1006 00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:02,560 didn't we think about it but we were 1007 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,960 thinking just like Lisa described so uh 1008 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,760 I think from a user's point of view your 1009 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,680 view yours it's like getting the 1010 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,800 executive summary last now we have it 1011 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,800 and and the executive summary should be 1012 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,720 first so if we want it to look at this 1013 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,640 more as a public-f facing document we 1014 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,119 should reorder it um for ease of 1015 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,000 construction. The way it was is is the 1016 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,680 way it was. 1017 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,960 >> Erica, 1018 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,400 >> so I think we might be thinking um a 1019 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,560 little too strictly about what the 1020 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,440 comprehensive plan is. So this is the 1021 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,280 formal document that meets all of the 1022 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,920 requirements and has all of the info. 1023 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,000 The way that we present that to the 1024 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,960 public could be completely different. uh 1025 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,079 as Lisa said, could consolidate, could 1026 00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:55,599 forward, could minimize, right? So I I'm 1027 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:59,040 not sure what the problem is in, you 1028 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,000 know, version one versus version two. Um 1029 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,520 because nobody is going to read 300 1030 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,319 pages when they want a brief overview of 1031 00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:10,640 Ashlin County, right? And and what our 1032 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,240 goals are. They're going to go right to 1033 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,200 what we point them to ultimately. 1034 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,839 So Emily, is there a reason to be one 1035 00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:19,280 way or the other? 1036 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,920 >> I would say similar to what Lisa 1037 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,599 mentioned is that the background 1038 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:25,599 information is there because it is meant 1039 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,000 to say where you are now and then you 1040 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,839 have the forward thinking where you want 1041 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:32,640 to go and how will you get there is that 1042 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,640 second visioning and implementation 1043 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,440 part. 1044 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,359 Is there any legal constraint on how 1045 00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:40,880 it's presented 1046 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,119 >> as far as 1047 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:43,920 um as 1048 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,430 >> which comes first? 1049 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,520 » In general, the issues and opportunities 1050 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,560 comes first. In most situations, there 1051 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,480 aren't two volumes of a plan. Usually, 1052 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,680 it's one plan as it is. 1053 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,000 Um 1054 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,640 >> Okay. So, let me add on to why I'm 1055 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,520 thinking about this. And so, this is a a 1056 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,440 real question for you, Emily. and and 1057 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,599 autumn as I've looked at the plan as we 1058 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:13,119 have it currently constructed 2016 plan 1059 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:16,079 the division of responsibilities here in 1060 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,880 as I'm thinking about is that the 1061 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,119 background data is something that we're 1062 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:22,720 looking to Northwest regional planning 1063 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,440 to do the update so I'm not looking to 1064 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,040 members of these committees to be doing 1065 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,240 the update for the background 1066 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,079 >> Northwest Regional Planning will update 1067 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,880 all of the current like update the 1068 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,240 census data um the actual factual 1069 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,920 information with all the public sources 1070 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,920 that we have and then we would provide 1071 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,680 that updated um draft probably to the 1072 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,680 usually it's the subcommittee since you 1073 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,079 have established subcommittees for plan 1074 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:51,119 elements to review that and provide any 1075 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,160 of the local expertise any updated 1076 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,640 studies that we might not know about any 1077 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,440 inner knowledge that you might have to 1078 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,119 then update and um make sure that fully 1079 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,440 represents where you want to go for this 1080 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,480 update. 1081 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,240 >> Okay. So, so that makes complete sense 1082 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,680 to me. We're looking basically we're 1083 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,200 looking to Northwest Regional Planning 1084 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,599 for the first draft of the update then 1085 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,760 to get reviewed by committees. So, then 1086 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400 let me say that what I've been thinking 1087 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,800 as a chair of the committee is that the 1088 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,440 respons primary responsibility of the 1089 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,680 elemental subcommittees as well as 1090 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,200 reviewing that data when it comes 1091 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,920 forward is to review the vision and the 1092 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,000 goals and objectives. part of in other 1093 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,480 words 1094 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,119 >> yeah that's 1095 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:38,480 >> the goals and objectives part the 1096 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,720 forwardlooking part of the plan is the 1097 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,680 responsibility of the subcommittees and 1098 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,119 I just want to make sure that we're kind 1099 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:50,390 of on the same page there any comments 1100 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,040 » I don't really care the order of it um 1101 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,359 but this reminds me of I bought a new 1102 00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:56,880 tractor a couple years ago and I ordered 1103 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,280 the manual and last winter I thought you 1104 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,400 know I'm going to actually read this 1105 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,720 thing cover to cover and I got partway 1106 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,720 through doing that and I had to stop I 1107 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:06,400 did read the city of Ashlin comp plan 1108 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,200 cover to cover twice back in 2010 when I 1109 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,280 ran for council. That was really 1110 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,160 ownorous. Um, and I'll never read a comp 1111 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,359 plan cover to cover again. What I want 1112 00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:21,839 in a good comp plan or manual is I want 1113 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,319 a really well organized table of 1114 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:26,720 contents. So, if I want to know how many 1115 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,800 quarts of oil, what the air pressure in 1116 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,960 the tires is, things like that, it's 1117 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,640 easy to find. And then I want a good 1118 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,960 index in the back. So when I look up 1119 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,720 some of this stuff, I can find what I 1120 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,119 want quickly and easily. So it's 1121 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:41,200 extremely user friendly because as I 1122 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,200 look at the comp plan for Ashlin County, 1123 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,800 I I'm not going to read it cover to 1124 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,640 cover, but I do want to be able to find 1125 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,640 what I'm interested in fairly quickly 1126 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680 and easily. And if any of you have ever 1127 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,839 looked at tractor manuals and some farm 1128 00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:56,079 equipment manuals, they could not make 1129 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,160 it harder to find the simplest of things 1130 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,240 like if you want to change the oil, you 1131 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,240 know what oil and filter, even the tire 1132 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,119 pressure and stuff. It's crazy um how 1133 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:08,160 hard that is. How you know it just is. I 1134 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,680 want it to be really user friendly 1135 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,839 regardless of the order of the chapters 1136 00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:13,599 in there. 1137 00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,359 And then that's table of contents and 1138 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,359 that's index. 1139 00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:19,200 And then after that it really doesn't 1140 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,560 matter because you're looking stuff up 1141 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,480 anyway. And flip into the page they give 1142 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,880 you. 1143 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,119 >> And maybe this is a good decision to 1144 00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,960 make once we see everything all updated. 1145 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,800 We have more of the pieces to take a 1146 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,190 look at as a whole. 1147 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,920 So are you up to now uh timeline and 1148 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,520 responsibilities? Is that where uh 1149 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,359 >> I am not yet. So then we have the um 1150 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:45,200 actual process. So the first would be 1151 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,280 for Northwest Regional Planning which 1152 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,200 we've already started is to revise the 1153 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,839 background report using all of the 1154 00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:54,160 sources and resources that we have to 1155 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560 update the statistical data any of the 1156 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,119 tables, charts, graphs and then we're 1157 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,200 developing those new forecasts based on 1158 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,040 that. the current information for 1159 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,720 housing, population, land use and then 1160 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:10,000 updating the narrative um to match that 1161 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,280 updated statistical data. 1162 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,680 And then the second would be the review 1163 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,240 of the issues and opportunities 1164 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,640 from the previous plan and update those 1165 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,800 to reflect any new or emerging 1166 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,960 challenges. So issues those are 1167 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,319 challenges that could affect the 1168 00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:28,720 county's goals or require attention 1169 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,720 while the opportunities are areas for 1170 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,640 improvement or positive change that the 1171 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,079 county could act on. I know that earlier 1172 00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,160 extension had worked with National Park 1173 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,160 Service about um some extreme weather 1174 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,880 event climate resilience 1175 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,720 um meetings with stakeholders and um 1176 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,680 experts on certain subjects. And I think 1177 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,640 there are reports that we could um take 1178 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,400 a look at when we update the issues and 1179 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,079 opportunities for the comprehensive 1180 00:48:58,079 --> 00:48:59,760 plan. 1181 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,599 And then I know there are also 1182 00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,760 departmental surveys that went out this 1183 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,119 spring that we should also take a look 1184 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:06,880 at when we're updating the issues and 1185 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:14,549 opportunities list for the plan. 1186 00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:17,440 And then after yes, 1187 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,119 >> as we all know, Northland College 1188 00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:20,960 changed. When you get around to looking 1189 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,200 at population, 1190 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,280 um the state has projections for Ashlin 1191 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,119 County going out. I think it's a 2050 1192 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,760 now about the total population, 1193 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,359 different age groups and stuff. And I 1194 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:34,480 looked at the methodology um a couple of 1195 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,240 months ago on how they come up with 1196 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,920 those projections. And they use census 1197 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,319 data basically. So the North and 1198 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,880 students um should be included in the 1199 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,720 census data when it's taken. Whether 1200 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,720 they all were or not, I don't know, but 1201 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,640 they should have been included in that. 1202 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,440 And so in that data, you know, one of 1203 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,000 the things that they look at is women of 1204 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,119 childbearing age. And so with the 1205 00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,280 college closing, 1206 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,839 we had a change in our demographics 1207 00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:04,079 here. And I don't know how accurately 1208 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:06,720 the state projections are going to be 1209 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,280 given that change. And so when you look 1210 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,200 at the population demographics and 1211 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,040 projections, 1212 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,880 I don't think we can rely entirely on 1213 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,680 what the state has because of, you know, 1214 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,119 they're using sensitive data and that 1215 00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:20,640 currently doesn't reflect Northland 1216 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,280 closing. So I think we'd have to dig a 1217 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,520 little deeper to come up with whatever 1218 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,119 we come up with. 1219 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,160 >> We'll take a look at that when we 1220 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,040 update those sections. 1221 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,280 So I think it's as of April 1st where 1222 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,520 you are for where you're counted in the 1223 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,430 census. 1224 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,319 April 1st of the time that you're taking 1225 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:47,760 the census 1226 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,079 >> but in 2020 the students would have been 1227 00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:51,839 here and the number of students was 1228 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:53,440 higher then than it was when they 1229 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:53,920 closed. I 1230 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,720 >> think the 2020 census also has the added 1231 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,359 complication with numbers because of the 1232 00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:03,589 pandemic. 1233 00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,599 Good thinking. 1234 00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,119 >> And Emily, I don't know if you'll need 1235 00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,119 this, but before Northland College took 1236 00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,000 their web page down, we our office 1237 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,280 downloaded lots of their center for 1238 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,319 rural development. 1239 00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:17,280 >> That would be nice. 1240 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,119 >> I can forward those to you 1241 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:20,480 >> because there's lots of plans and 1242 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,160 studies that they had. 1243 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,839 >> Okay. So, 1244 00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:28,230 >> I would Yes, please. 1245 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,240 And then a review of the vision 1246 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:32,079 framework. So that's the goals and 1247 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,599 objectives and the vision statement. 1248 00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:38,559 And then I know similar to the issues 1249 00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:39,920 and opportunities, we have the 1250 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,000 information that we can also take a look 1251 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,520 at from those extension national park 1252 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,480 service meetings about extreme weather 1253 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,359 to consider and then um those 1254 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,119 departmental surveys to take into 1255 00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,680 consideration when we review the vision 1256 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,790 framework. 1257 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,880 And then we have the strategy review. So 1258 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,920 that's a review of the action steps and 1259 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,559 the action plan 1260 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,720 updating those as needed to reflect 1261 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,359 current priorities. So the action plan 1262 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:14,000 outlines each step including who's 1263 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,480 responsible when that action will be 1264 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,160 completed 1265 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640 uh the resources needed to complete that 1266 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:27,750 action and then a column for evaluation. 1267 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,920 So, what additional resources might be 1268 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,430 available? 1269 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,319 And then step five, identify any new 1270 00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:39,990 action steps. 1271 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400 In doing so, thinking about do any of 1272 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,160 the current or forecasted issues and 1273 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,920 opportunities that we took a look at 1274 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,880 require any new action steps? If there 1275 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,280 are any new goals or object objectives 1276 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,400 identified to have supporting actions, 1277 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,280 is the county better today to accomplish 1278 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,880 certain strategic actions than um maybe 1279 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,000 it was in 2016 and are there any 1280 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,680 additional resources that we can use 1281 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,920 now? And then considering any new 1282 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,280 studies or plans that have been 1283 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,280 developed, I know that Ashlin County 1284 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,599 recently updated their hazard mitigation 1285 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:20,069 plan. 1286 00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:23,359 And then the mapping also a step that 1287 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:27,359 Northwest Regional Planning will be a 1288 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:29,520 major part in 1289 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,400 the resource mapping will be primarily 1290 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,040 handled by our GIS specialists. It's CLM 1291 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,800 Lararsson. We'll update all of the maps 1292 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,319 using any new and updated GIS data. And 1293 00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:43,119 while some of the um underlining data 1294 00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,520 like the soils maps for instance won't 1295 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,440 change, we'll still take advantage of 1296 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,440 the latest GIS technology to produce 1297 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,440 refreshed layouts and imagery for all of 1298 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,079 those maps. 1299 00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,200 And then the existing land use mapping, 1300 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,359 that's identifying the current land use 1301 00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:03,440 in Ashlin County. And I think as a part 1302 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,280 of the farmland preservation plan 1303 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,000 update, we we already have um this 1304 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,160 information from Ashlin County. So we'll 1305 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,079 review that map as a full committee. 1306 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:16,480 And then based on that existing land use 1307 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,280 map, take a look at what the county 1308 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,280 would like the land use pattern to look 1309 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,920 like in 20 years. 1310 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,319 Last time you did this at a uh county 1311 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:31,030 scale, which we can do again this time. 1312 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,359 And then 1313 00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:37,910 the 1314 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,160 steps for plan adoption would be to 1315 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,400 compile and finalize all of the updated 1316 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,480 data and information into a draft plan. 1317 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,119 Um and then once we have all of that, it 1318 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,119 would be a preliminary draft plan that 1319 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:54,240 we could um send out for public review 1320 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:57,040 and h conclude that with a public open 1321 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,640 house. 1322 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,720 And typically that includes Northwest 1323 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,200 Regional Planning facilitating a sort of 1324 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,440 presentation on what we have updated and 1325 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,960 what we found as a part of the plan 1326 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,079 update process and then open that up for 1327 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:14,000 um public comment and questions. 1328 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,480 And then after that the um this 1329 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,119 committee would approve a resolution 1330 00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:21,359 recommending the updated draft plan be 1331 00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:24,400 approved by the county board. 1332 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,200 At that time a the county board receives 1333 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,000 that resolution from this committee. A 1334 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,040 public hearing is scheduled 1335 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,520 the designated body which is typically 1336 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,880 the county board and it often the public 1337 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,400 hearing occurs um prior to the county 1338 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,440 board adoption of the ordinance. listens 1339 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,520 to any of the public testimony related 1340 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,839 to the draft plan. 1341 00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:51,359 And then the county board could send 1342 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,599 back feedback 1343 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:55,599 um or send back the plan if there are 1344 00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:58,000 any edits that are needed and um provide 1345 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,349 any feedback. 1346 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:03,760 And if there are no changes, the county 1347 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,760 board formally adopts the updated plan 1348 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,200 by ordinance. The plan is distributed to 1349 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,440 specific entities that are described in 1350 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,079 the statutes. So that's um local 1351 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,720 libraries, neighboring jurisdictions, uh 1352 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,040 Northwest Regional Planning, 1353 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,520 and then we'll also provide all of the 1354 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,079 data that we have collected, the GIS 1355 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:27,520 data, any um PDF and Word document 1356 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,640 copies of the plan, any print copies if 1357 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,359 those are defined in our contract, and 1358 00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:35,839 then that 10year cycle for the 1359 00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:40,950 comprehensive plan begins again. 1360 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,640 And then you have the implementation and 1361 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,760 putting that plan to work. 1362 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,280 And now we're on the timeline 1363 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,720 discussion of timeline and 1364 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,559 responsibilities. 1365 00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:58,390 This is a a broad look at the timeline. 1366 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,960 Uh, so it'll be we're looking at about a 1367 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,359 12-month period for the actual plan 1368 00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:05,920 update process with this committee, 1369 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,520 concluding hopefully having a 1370 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,119 preliminary draft plan by August of 2026 1371 00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,559 and then holding a public open house on 1372 00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:18,000 that preliminary draft plan in October, 1373 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,520 the resolution, the formal approval of 1374 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,160 the draft plan by this committee, which 1375 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,440 could then go to the 30-day public 1376 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,680 comment period as required in the 1377 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,359 statutes. And then um no later than 1378 00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:37,200 January 2027, the county board ordinance 1379 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,240 adopting the updated plan, 1380 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,040 >> Emily. 1381 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,240 >> So does January 27 meet the statutory 1382 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,799 requirement for filing or does it have 1383 00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:48,880 to be in 26 1384 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,119 >> or are you talking specifically for the 1385 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:52,160 grant? 1386 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,200 >> You're going to file this with the 1387 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:53,760 state? 1388 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,079 >> Yeah, that's fine. But I don't know if 1389 00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:00,480 the the um planning grant has any 1390 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,960 specific I think it was the spring of 1391 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,799 2027 1392 00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:06,720 that this 1393 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,119 needed to be completed for uh grant 1394 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:12,319 reporting purposes, but no requirements 1395 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:15,599 for the actual approval of the plan 1396 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:17,119 specifically for the Wisconsin 1397 00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:19,680 Department of Administration 1398 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,839 um for the comprehensive plan update 1399 00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:23,680 side. 1400 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:30,950 >> Okay. 1401 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,549 Um, 1402 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:41,589 and then 1403 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:43,920 any questions on any pieces of the 1404 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,160 timeline? 1405 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,280 >> Right. So, as I'm thinking about it, 1406 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,720 each of our subcommittees will 1407 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,720 be needing the input of the updated data 1408 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,720 from the background element relative to 1409 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,839 their element and it's going to be hard 1410 00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:04,319 for subcommittees to have their own 1411 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:07,119 public access hearings until they get 1412 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,119 that data. So, 1413 00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:10,720 >> when when do you think you might have 1414 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,000 the first draft data available for the 1415 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,240 subcommittees? because I'm thinking we 1416 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,280 ought to be, you know, getting something 1417 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:25,040 fleshed out by early early of the year. 1418 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,960 Stepping back a little, I just wanted to 1419 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,760 make sure that I understood 1420 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,319 which commi how many committees existed 1421 00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:36,079 and who are on those committees. 1422 00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:39,359 Um, and are you also including other 1423 00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:41,359 stakeholders, 1424 00:59:41,359 --> 00:59:43,359 subject matter experts within those 1425 00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,920 committees? 1426 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,640 Thank you. 1427 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,480 >> Okay. So, I've handed you a list of the 1428 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,160 subcommittees and the subcommittee 1429 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,240 chairpersons who are all members of this 1430 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,359 committee. So, um most members of this 1431 00:59:57,359 --> 01:00:00,319 committee are committee subcommittee 1432 01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:03,520 chairpersons. They will be are tasked 1433 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,839 basically with pulling together input 1434 01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:07,520 from members of the community, 1435 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,079 participants at a subcommittee level uh 1436 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,079 from different sources of information 1437 01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:17,520 and reviewing the existing uh issues as 1438 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,040 uh opportunity risk and opportunities as 1439 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,160 are presented in the existing plan. But 1440 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,799 then they'll want your data update in 1441 01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:29,119 order to evaluate whether to help them 1442 01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:31,520 evaluate whether changes are going to be 1443 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,720 needed for this updated plan. So, you 1444 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,880 know, it's hard to have a subcommittee 1445 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,119 or I'm like Paul's doing transportation, 1446 01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:42,400 I'm doing utilities. I can review the 1447 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,880 existing utilities portion. I can look 1448 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,480 at the existing issues that were there 1449 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,599 in 2016, the issues and opportunities, 1450 01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,319 uh, the risks, but then I'm kind of 1451 01:00:52,319 --> 01:00:54,160 stuck until I get the further update of 1452 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,920 whether there's more information that 1453 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,440 you have to give me from the back new 1454 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,200 background data. 1455 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,880 >> And then a question on 1456 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,079 the titles of the committees 1457 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:10,240 don't follow the current plan chapters. 1458 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,760 Well, they're pretty close, but they're 1459 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,760 designed the subcommunes are designed 1460 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:18,799 for data collection. So, community facilities and culture 1461 01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:20,240 facilities are kind of one and the same 1462 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,440 thing. They don't really go with 1463 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,520 utilities. So, if I'm looking at 1464 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,440 utilities, I'm looking at, you know, 1465 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,960 Excel Energy and Nvado and hardcore 1466 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,640 utilities. I'm not looking at cultural 1467 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,520 facilities like the senior center. So in 1468 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,839 terms of getting our work done and just 1469 01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:38,400 gathering information, getting input 1470 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,720 from experts in the community, we've 1471 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,640 divided it up this way, but then we'll 1472 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,680 just res resort it into the elements as presented in the statute. 1473 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,000 >> Okay. So your current comprehensive plan 1474 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,880 or the in the update, it'll still we'll 1475 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,040 update the plan as the utilities and 1476 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,920 community facilities chapter. It'll be 1477 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,760 at the stage of your subcommittee that 1478 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,200 you look at that differently. So it 1479 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,119 would probably to have that chapter with 1480 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:06,319 two subchapters. One of you know one is 1481 01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:08,480 on community facilities and one is on 1482 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,520 >> I think it the plan al already separates 1483 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,520 them into two different sections within 1484 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,000 that chapter. 1485 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,799 Um 1486 01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:19,599 >> so anyway these are the committees are 1487 01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,119 the subcommittees are established as 1488 01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,119 their for the collection of information. 1489 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:24,640 Yeah, 1490 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,799 >> it'll probably be um at our September 1491 01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:30,720 October meeting that we'll start to have 1492 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,040 those draft plan chapters available. 1493 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,760 A question would be how do you want us 1494 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,640 to share those? in general will um put 1495 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,319 those on the Northwest Regional Planning 1496 01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:49,520 web page, create a web page specifically 1497 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,480 for the Ashlin County Comprehensive Plan 1498 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,920 and then we can upload the current 1499 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,319 version of the updated plan chapters as 1500 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:03,920 they're revised. And then uh the Ashlin 1501 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,640 County website could include a link to 1502 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,400 the Northwest Regional Planning website 1503 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,960 and that seems to work best at this 1504 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,839 stage because then we can as we need to 1505 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:17,680 update things we can do so in real time. 1506 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,079 >> So I don't any observations that that 1507 01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:21,680 makes sense to me as long as each 1508 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,480 subcommittee will have access to 1509 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,920 >> Yeah. It'll be a public link. 1510 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,640 >> Yeah. So, a link on our planning 1511 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,839 committee web page on the Ashlin County 1512 01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:33,760 web page 1513 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,280 would take us Well, hold it. That's 1514 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,440 public access, though, isn't it? How do 1515 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,440 we do this? Our planning committee web 1516 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,680 page is a general public access web 1517 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,760 page. And I don't think you want public 1518 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,599 access into this draft environment. 1519 01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:46,799 >> That would be the other question. At 1520 01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:48,880 what stage do you want the public to 1521 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,160 review the draft? Would it be after the 1522 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,319 subcommittee review? 1523 01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:55,599 >> Yes. 1524 01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:59,039 So then we should utilize for the first 1525 01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:01,359 preliminary draft review that goes to 1526 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:04,400 the subcommittees the SharePoint folder 1527 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,039 of Ashlin County 1528 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:10,559 and then it'll be after 1529 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,319 >> comment anybody. 1530 01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:14,160 >> This is Elizabeth Franic. Can I 1531 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,079 interject? Um go ahead Liz. I don't know 1532 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:19,520 if it's because um you know my lack of 1533 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:24,559 uh of um time because I'm sick on my 1534 01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:28,559 only day off or what it is. But um I 1535 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,119 just have a suggestion. We have other 1536 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:33,599 subcommittees. 1537 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:36,319 What I'm doing with my subcommittees is 1538 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:39,520 I'm going to contact each um head of 1539 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,280 that committee or you know, I'll use one 1540 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,280 as an example, the Ashlin Resource 1541 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,680 Center or whatever it is. um call or 1542 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,440 email them, tell them you know what 1543 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,440 you're all about and you would really 1544 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:02,400 like them to add uh planning to their um 1545 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,079 meeting. 1546 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:08,000 Okay, they do that. Now they have that 1547 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,880 open discussion at their meeting. Even 1548 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,440 if I can't attend, it's public 1549 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,520 knowledge. I can go back and see if 1550 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,440 anybody discussed anything. So then I 1551 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,119 can touch base with them and I can ask 1552 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,480 all these different entities 1553 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,520 to just how about I don't know I'm 1554 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,319 throwing this out here because a lot of 1555 01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:35,760 people don't have a lot of time. I'm on 1556 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,440 other boards. I have another board 1557 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,920 meeting at 4:15 that I'll have to be on 1558 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,520 the phone because I can only talk. Um, 1559 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,920 what I would like to see is us engage 1560 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,760 with the comm community, not the 1561 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,000 community, but all our different 1562 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,520 subcommittees 1563 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,680 with one big meeting, inviting them all 1564 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,520 for input instead of us reaching out to 1565 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,520 them all the time because nobody has 1566 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,680 time. So in the future when we really 1567 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,359 need their input that we invite all 1568 01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:12,720 these stakeholders to one big meeting, 1569 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,200 we can do a doodle poll. We can see when 1570 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,400 the mo majority of them can go. Even if 1571 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,680 it's on a a Saturday afternoon, I can 1572 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,760 schedule a time off of work. I have two 1573 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,280 jobs, 1574 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,319 so I don't know if that would work. But 1575 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:33,920 I think we're we're just um in the age 1576 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,680 of technology, 1577 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,760 we have better resources now to um get 1578 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,280 that information and people don't always 1579 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,119 have to be boots on the ground and sit 1580 01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:50,880 in a thousand meetings. Just my input. 1581 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,079 Thank you. 1582 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:55,680 >> Uh let me just uh add to what Liz had to 1583 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,799 say there. I think as we are currently 1584 01:06:58,799 --> 01:07:02,000 loosely structured, it is really up to 1585 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,680 each subcommittee chairperson to decide 1586 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,920 how they want to go about conducting 1587 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,240 their what we call a subcommittee 1588 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,839 effort. Whether it be individual 1589 01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:14,079 reaching out or convening meetings or 1590 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:16,480 doing a zoom meetings or surveying 1591 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,720 different departments, it's really has 1592 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,760 to be as I've seen it in the hands of 1593 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,680 the individual subcommittee chair person 1594 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,000 because of our individual personal 1595 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,480 constraints. Is that I hope that answers 1596 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,359 your question, Liz. And I turn the floor 1597 01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:33,680 back over to 1598 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,359 >> you. Am I 1599 01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:40,079 Charlie? Oh. Oh, Pat, sorry. 1600 01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:42,240 >> Can we go back to the previous screen? 1601 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,720 >> Yes. 1602 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:49,359 >> So, something I brought up um 1603 01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:51,359 in other meetings is I'm looking at that 1604 01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:54,480 first part, August 25 to August 2026. We 1605 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,400 have county board elections next April. 1606 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,480 And all things being equal, it sure be 1607 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,119 nice if we start and finished this plan 1608 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:05,760 all with the same county board. last 1609 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,839 time a third of the board turned over 1610 01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:10,480 when we had an election. And so somehow 1611 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,760 in that first part, it wouldn't be 1612 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,599 surprising if there's some changes on 1613 01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:18,159 the board and then you know you have the 1614 01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:19,839 election then you have a reorganization 1615 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,759 meeting and then committee and you elect 1616 01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:24,239 a board chair and a few other 1617 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:26,400 committees, highway committee, whatever. 1618 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:27,759 But then the board chair and the 1619 01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:29,279 administrator meet and they make 1620 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:30,880 appointments to other committees which 1621 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,560 would include the plan committee at this 1622 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,480 point. that creates a really long gap if 1623 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,120 we have people leave 1624 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,040 where, you know, it's most of two months 1625 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,279 or so potentially. 1626 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:47,040 Um that I we'd have to 1627 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,799 I don't know have some sort of plan or just be ready to deal with a lag 1628 01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:55,120 there to get new people and then to get 1629 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,600 them up to speed. 1630 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,960 >> Have you encountered that kind of 1631 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,480 situation in the past, Emily? 1632 01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:03,040 >> That did occur in Brunett County. They 1633 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,120 were just getting to the plan adoption 1634 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,839 part of their comprehensive plan update 1635 01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:10,640 process and they had an almost 1636 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,799 completely new county board, but they 1637 01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:16,000 just they kept moving as business as 1638 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,159 usual and had new people to inform about 1639 01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:24,149 the plan update process 1640 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:27,279 or pass an ordinance to prohibit any 1641 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:29,040 county board member from not running 1642 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,600 next year. 1643 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,520 You'd be superseding state law. Can't do 1644 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,920 it. Listen. 1645 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,839 >> Okay. Where are we now in your agenda 1646 01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:38,560 there, Emily? 1647 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:46,950 >> Um, 1648 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,640 so did we accomp did we solve any other 1649 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,000 questions for subcommittee 1650 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,640 review of materials? So the subcommittee 1651 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,880 will review materials and then we'll 1652 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,640 hold a full committee um based on the 1653 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,280 recommendations of the subcommittees 1654 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,040 would be the general process 1655 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:13,040 right I think uh when you get into the 1656 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,640 after the subcommittees have formed 1657 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,679 their draft uh the recommended draft 1658 01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:20,960 documents then I I suspect that the full 1659 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,080 committee ought to in session review 1660 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,960 each one of those individually in a 1661 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,840 series of meetings. Uh so maybe it'll 1662 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,960 take 1663 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,120 >> you know half an hour to review one 1664 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,960 elemented 1665 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,239 by the subcommittee 1666 01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:38,640 >> and that might take like three or four 1667 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,560 meetings two or three meetings before we 1668 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,080 could get through all of the elements. a 1669 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,320 full committee, we won't probably review 1670 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,400 the background report and unless there's 1671 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,719 some kind of new very new information 1672 01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:50,960 that's incorporated, but for the 1673 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,719 visioning and the implementation, we'll 1674 01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:55,360 all review those subcommittee 1675 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,840 recommendations as a full group. 1676 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,030 >> Exactly. 1677 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,520 And then we'll also as we figure out 1678 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,760 where we are and as we have the updated 1679 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,400 draft plan elements, we'll probably 1680 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,239 create some deadlines for that 1681 01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:12,880 subcommittee recommendations 1682 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:18,229 for incorporating into the plan update. 1683 01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:22,950 » So your presentation 1684 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,440 » and then I think that answers the 1685 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,679 question I had on how to share the 1686 01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:29,360 draft. 1687 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,600 um plan elements as they're available. 1688 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:37,030 We'll put those in the SharePoint folder 1689 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,760 and then um share those on our website 1690 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,640 when they're in that 1691 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,920 um after the subcommittee 1692 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,520 review version. 1693 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:56,390 And then what time do we have? 1694 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,840 Looks like we're at 211. 1695 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,159 And then the next part was about that 1696 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:05,750 public survey 1697 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,239 figuring out those sorts of logistics or 1698 01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:10,400 starting to figure out those logistics, 1699 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,600 but I don't know if there was a 1700 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,080 confirmation on if we want to move 1701 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,239 forward with an online survey. 1702 01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:22,800 Uh, so I think we're at the question of 1703 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,120 how do we say what the questions ought 1704 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,199 to be in the online survey. 1705 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:27,920 >> Yes. 1706 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,120 >> And I suspect you maybe have a straw man 1707 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,159 starting point for that. 1708 01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:35,679 >> Yes. And I did 1709 01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:41,669 >> it was somewhere I printed. 1710 01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:45,360 Perhaps that could be shared by email to 1711 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,560 all the the committee members 1712 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,400 and then that feedback could come back 1713 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,480 to you 1714 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,199 from all of the committee members 1715 01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:58,080 suggestions and you could consolidate a 1716 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,800 draft uh for us to be reviewed at our 1717 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,400 next meeting. do have a draft, 1718 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:04,960 >> okay, 1719 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,360 >> that I can share today and then it would 1720 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,880 be helpful by our September meeting if 1721 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,440 we could finalize survey questions is if 1722 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,000 this is how we're moving forward. 1723 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,000 So this the survey questions that you'll 1724 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,840 get today in this document and we'll 1725 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,800 also share those virtually 1726 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,600 um email those out. This is fully based 1727 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,760 on the Bernett County comprehensive plan 1728 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,320 update survey that they did um a couple 1729 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,830 of years ago. 1730 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,840 » So our comments back to you would be our 1731 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,239 suggestions for modifications that of 1732 01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:40,159 that that straw man just a straw man. 1733 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:41,440 It's a place to start, right? 1734 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,840 >> And then thinking about by our next 1735 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,120 meeting we'll want to have these 1736 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,199 questions finalized by the end of our 1737 01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,920 September meeting. So like I think by 1738 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,080 emailing it to each of us that will 1739 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,920 trigger each of us to please respond to 1740 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,880 it and give you the feedback 1741 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,199 >> because some of these might not be as 1742 01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:02,239 specific specifically to Ashlin County 1743 01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:09,990 as a coastal county 1744 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,560 because if this is what we moved forward 1745 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,360 with, we would look at 1746 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,840 um 1747 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,199 having a survey report of the survey 1748 01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:23,920 responses to this committee for a 1749 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,920 presentation hopefully by the end of 1750 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,080 this year. 1751 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,760 So then we can use those survey 1752 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,480 responses to help inform the plan as 1753 01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,640 well. Yes, 1754 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,320 >> probably. 1755 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,920 These were generated by the Bernett 1756 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,600 County Planning Committee for their 1757 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,440 comprehensive plan and they are based 1758 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:49,280 they were based off of their 1759 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,360 um 2010 plan and they modified some of 1760 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,679 the questions or some of the answers I 1761 01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:58,400 suppose to talk about things like um 1762 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,480 concentrated animal feeding operations 1763 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:03,520 and some of the um technological 1764 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,040 advances that have happened especially 1765 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,800 with broadband. and internet and things 1766 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:13,430 like that. 1767 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:16,080 » You want to get people to tell you what 1768 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,000 they want. 1769 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,920 Is this like a kind of standard? 1770 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,520 >> So these questions are they generated 1771 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,120 by I don't know like university 1772 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,120 think tanks to generate the kind of 1773 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,320 answers that will give us the 1774 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,320 information. They were originally 1775 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,239 generated by the um River Falls 1776 01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:39,760 campus 1777 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,880 and then modified in 2022 2023 for their 1778 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,719 plan update. And then I know 2006 survey 1779 01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:50,320 questions for Ashlin County exist 1780 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,600 somewhere. That might be interesting, 1781 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,520 especially to compare results if those 1782 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,960 exist. 1783 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,360 I say that because I'm not qualified to 1784 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,199 determine if these questions are what we 1785 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:03,440 should ask or not. I read through them. 1786 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:05,520 I I like some of them, but I just want 1787 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,120 to make sure that they give us answers 1788 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,440 that let us, you know, understand what 1789 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,960 they want and that it applies to to the 1790 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,000 this this plan in a way that gives us 1791 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:18,480 meaning 1792 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:20,960 >> valid. 1793 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,400 >> And my computer that I inherited from 1794 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,640 extension employee before me didn't go 1795 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,360 back to 2006, but there might be some 1796 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,840 hard copies around. I'll poke around. I 1797 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,920 found some things on a disc. I just 1798 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,159 don't have a disc player, but Okay. I 1799 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:39,199 think that was mainly 2016 surveys. 1800 01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:39,840 >> Okay. 1801 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,040 >> But I'll look for you. 1802 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,280 >> So, I found the farmland preservation 1803 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,440 plan from 2016. They redid that survey. 1804 01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:49,440 So, we have those questions, but not the 1805 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:54,790 comprehensive plan from 2006 questions. 1806 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,880 Lisa, I I think Tom Moja Husky would 1807 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,600 probably be happy to 1808 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,440 tell you where you might find him 1809 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:06,000 because he did all that at the time. He 1810 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,520 ran this whole update thing. 1811 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,350 2016. Yeah. 1812 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:19,830 Oh, that's right. Okay. 1813 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,480 » Miss Elizabeth Franic. 1814 01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:22,880 Go ahead. 1815 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,640 >> Can I go ahead? 1816 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:29,120 >> Um, on the survey, I've had um community 1817 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,120 members and tourists ask questions about 1818 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,480 future use of Northland College. 1819 01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,920 I also had um questions about the the 1820 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,400 county's role 1821 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,199 um assisting the tribe with um wild rice 1822 01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:48,880 preservation. 1823 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,199 Um also with um 1824 01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:56,800 uh future job opportunities 1825 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,520 um and 1826 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,159 how are we going to staff these jobs 1827 01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:07,679 with um a college population missing? 1828 01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:10,950 Thank you. 1829 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,750 Melissa, did you have more? 1830 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,640 Back to you, Emily. 1831 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,159 Um 1832 01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:22,159 and then 1833 01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,400 hopefully everyone can take a look at 1834 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,640 these in between this meeting and our 1835 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,960 next meeting and on the agenda for next 1836 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,760 meeting have finalization of the survey 1837 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,960 questions as well as sort of a timeline 1838 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,600 for the survey deployment as an agenda 1839 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,709 item. 1840 01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:44,880 » Do we have time for me to ask just a few 1841 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,400 questions about this? Um, so I have 1842 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,320 looked over this. I think we we got it 1843 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,640 in an email from you several weeks ago. 1844 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,560 Um, 1845 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,560 one question I have is question three. 1846 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,320 It says, "Rate the quality of following 1847 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,800 services and facilities." When we're 1848 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,760 looking over this, should those services 1849 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,360 and facilities be within the wheelhouse 1850 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,760 of the county itself? So something like 1851 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,239 county parks, we actually don't have any 1852 01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:18,719 county parks. Um, so would we take that out or are we asking sort of more 1853 01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:20,880 about 1854 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,560 rural parks in general in the county 1855 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,320 that might be administered by something 1856 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,800 else like the state? Um, 1857 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,520 >> I would say whichever take you want to 1858 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,480 go with that. 1859 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:37,679 >> Okay. What's most important to have 1860 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:41,440 information about in general all 1861 01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:43,760 >> opportunities for parks and open space 1862 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,239 in the county? Like that still has 1863 01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,080 implications for right 1864 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,840 >> community development planning and land 1865 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,040 use, 1866 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,040 >> right? But it seems like we kind of need 1867 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,159 to decide like do we take this survey 1868 01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,800 >> as a tool for judgment of how the county 1869 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,640 itself is operating 1870 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,840 >> or for what people want and need? 1871 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,400 >> Yes. in the county 1872 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,400 which might not be our purview. 1873 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,800 >> The the other one is if I was looking at 1874 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,080 this, I'm not so sure I would answered 1875 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,600 as a Ashlin County property park 1876 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,159 >> because a county has multiple parks 1877 01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:21,920 within towns and villages. 1878 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,239 >> So I don't know if a person reading this 1879 01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:25,040 would know 1880 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:25,840 >> just parks. 1881 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,080 >> If if we said African county parks, we'd 1882 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,679 say we don't have any. 1883 01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:33,040 >> Yeah. So I might not answer but maybe 1884 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,719 within the county or something because 1885 01:20:34,719 --> 01:20:37,360 it's not a county part. 1886 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,400 >> Yeah. Okay. 1887 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,800 >> So in in the name of time I think these 1888 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,600 are the the feedback that we want to be 1889 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,560 sending to Emily after we get the email 1890 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,760 from her. 1891 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:48,480 >> Yes. 1892 01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:51,199 >> I don't know that it's uh you know it's 1893 01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:53,360 2:20 now. We we won't be able to 1894 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,880 complete this agenda today if we're 1895 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,800 going to be in a two-hour meeting. 1896 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,280 >> No. So, I'm just saying I think what 1897 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,360 we're asking is for all of us to give 1898 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,520 this kind of feedback to Emily for her 1899 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,760 to come up with the draft 1900 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,360 >> for our September meeting. Erica, 1901 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,000 >> I absolutely agree. What I would 1902 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,080 underline though is that this is going 1903 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,600 to take a long time for us to talk 1904 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,280 through even when she compiles 1905 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,040 everything. I feel like so I think that 1906 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,199 we probably need to make this like 1907 01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:21,120 basically our only thing on the agenda 1908 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,080 in September. 1909 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,199 >> Yes. 1910 01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:25,840 I'm I'm just I'm worried because we are 1911 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,360 going to want to talk through all of 1912 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,360 these questions. I think 1913 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,280 I could be wrong. I mean I I just but 1914 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,800 like I think this is probably going to 1915 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,080 be a process. 1916 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,840 >> You're correct in that thinking. 1917 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,600 >> Other comments Pat 1918 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,080 >> without having gone through this um I 1919 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,640 would also be interested in terms of the 1920 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,320 nine elements we're supposed to have in 1921 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,400 account plan. What is a balance of 1922 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,320 addressing each of those nine elements? 1923 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,800 And off hand, I don't know if we're 1924 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,960 hitting all nine. We're hitting some 1925 01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:02,550 heavy and others not much. 1926 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,960 Other comments I say that um Lisa and 1927 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,199 Eric have done some preliminary survey 1928 01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:10,560 work and those are there may be 1929 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,480 questions from that earlier survey work 1930 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,560 that we want to incorporate. I mean, I 1931 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,040 don't just because Baron Bernett County 1932 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,280 did it this way doesn't mean at all to 1933 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,080 me that we need I could throw this out. 1934 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:22,239 Now, 1935 01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:22,880 >> these are all 1936 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,000 >> I could throw this out and come up with 1937 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,840 a whole different list of questions that 1938 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,000 interest us. So, that's the kind of 1939 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,199 input we need to give to Emily, I think. 1940 01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:35,920 Um, moving on. Oh, Pat, sorry. This is 1941 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,360 just a thought and I'm going to regret 1942 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,679 saying it, but maybe for each of us that 1943 01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:42,639 are chairing a different area like I've 1944 01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:46,239 got egg and forestry. Maybe each of us 1945 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:48,000 come up with some questions related to 1946 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,800 the area that we're chairing. And that 1947 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,880 way as we think ahead towards public 1948 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,960 participation, if we were to say to 1949 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,199 people, you know, for me, for example, 1950 01:22:57,199 --> 01:22:59,520 what's important related to agriculture 1951 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,199 to you, it would force me to think a 1952 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:05,360 little harder, a little sooner. That's why I'm going to regret having 1953 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,830 said that. 1954 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,159 » Sounds like a good idea to me. Uh, other 1955 01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:14,800 cut. 1956 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:24,229 Moving on then, N. 1957 01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:26,080 Yeah. And so then the discussion of 1958 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,760 countywide planning issues on 1959 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,480 opportunities, we'll postpone that to a 1960 01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:33,520 future meeting. 1961 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,920 Okay. Although we'll be that's coming up 1962 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,040 next on this agenda with regard to the 1963 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,440 current plan. So if if if this is the 1964 01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:46,320 end of your things that you need to talk 1965 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,080 about, let me ask if there anybody have 1966 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,080 further questions for for Emily or 1967 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:57,510 Autumn on what we've discussed so far. 1968 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,800 » One quick thing on the survey. I'm never 1969 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,920 quite 1970 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,080 confident about how we interact with the 1971 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,280 tribe on this? 1972 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:05,760 >> Sure. 1973 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,520 >> Um, should you I assume tribal members 1974 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,840 of course are going to be invol invited, 1975 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,320 but then in your experience with other 1976 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,360 counties, are there questions related to 1977 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,920 tribal issues or special needs of the 1978 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,000 tribe that we should make sure we 1979 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,679 address? 1980 01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:27,440 >> I have not seen that. And honestly, 1981 01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:30,159 Bernett County is the only uh county 1982 01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:31,920 that's recently done a comprehensive 1983 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,600 plan survey and they have the St. Croy 1984 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,000 Chipoa Indian needs of Wisconsin within 1985 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,000 their county and they did not include 1986 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,719 any specific questions in their survey, 1987 01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:45,040 but they did invite members of the tribe 1988 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:52,709 to every planning committee meeting. 1989 01:24:52,719 --> 01:24:54,880 Okay, I think we're moving on then to 1990 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,199 item 5C in our agenda, 1991 01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:04,159 which was to discuss the 20 2016 comp 1992 01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:07,040 plan listed issues and opportunities. I 1993 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,120 just wanted to go over these. Can we 1994 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,400 bring those up on screen? Is that 1995 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,750 available? 1996 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,280 We have a backup document for that. 1997 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,030 All 1998 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,199 right. 1999 01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:33,830 So, 2000 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,990 I have that here. 2001 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,440 Yeah. So, the the point of of bringing 2002 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:44,800 this up on the agenda is to focus our 2003 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,360 attention 2004 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:51,280 uh with regard to our individual 2005 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,000 elements that we're working on. So I 2006 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,800 want to make sure that everybody has 2007 01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,159 paid attention to the existing listed 2008 01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:01,840 issues opportunities under these 2009 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,760 different sections. So the first section 2010 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,239 if you'll scroll there a little bit uh 2011 01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,639 Karisha you come to governance and 2012 01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:11,840 citizen involvement 2013 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,760 and then we're going to go to the tax 2014 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,159 base which goes with land. 2015 01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:17,760 and demographics and then you keep 2016 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,239 scrolling 2017 01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:23,040 and you're to housing. 2018 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,800 Keep scrolling. Then you're to community 2019 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,480 character and then transportation, 2020 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:31,760 utilities and community facilities, 2021 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,280 agriculture, 2022 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:38,159 natural resources, economic development, 2023 01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:40,159 intergovernmental cooperation and land 2024 01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,239 use. So 2025 01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:45,679 there's a lot here already and in in 2026 01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:50,480 essence my thinking is that it's our 2027 01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:53,760 u assignments as individual subcommittee 2028 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,320 leaders to review these existing 2029 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,120 um issues and opportunities as they were 2030 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,440 presented in the earlier plan and to 2031 01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:05,120 think about how we might want to change 2032 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,360 or update those. So it's like we're not 2033 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,440 working from scratch. 2034 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:11,440 Each of us has a baseline here that's 2035 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,760 already on the books, already in effect 2036 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,800 as of right now because these are the 2037 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,280 listed issues and opportunities up until 2038 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,280 we actually issue a new plan. These are 2039 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,480 in effect and that to me simplifies our 2040 01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:27,199 role. Now, there's so much here. I don't 2041 01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:29,600 think we have the capacity to actually 2042 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,320 talk through all of these today, but I 2043 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,120 would ask that each subcommittee address 2044 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,679 these existing 2045 01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:39,840 issues, opportunities as as currently in 2046 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:45,360 the plan. And then the item 5D on our 2047 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,199 agenda is to look at the vision 2048 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:49,920 statement. Now, that's something I think 2049 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,520 we probably could talk a little bit 2050 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,280 about today 2051 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,120 because this is if you can scroll to 2052 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,639 that and I'll scroll down to where it 2053 01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:59,199 says vision and put that on the screen. 2054 01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:01,600 Yeah, this is just, you know, this is 2055 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,480 just half a page to look at. 2056 01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:06,800 And I just want to read it if you don't 2057 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,800 mind. 2058 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,719 It says, "We envision a county that 2059 01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:13,600 recognizes the diversity of rural 2060 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,520 forested community and village life. By 2061 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,760 joining together, we become stronger and 2062 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,760 more efficient in meeting our citizens 2063 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,440 needs. We are challenged to maintain and 2064 01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:28,719 improve land, air, and water quality in 2065 01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:31,760 an increasingly complex world. than to 2066 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,679 meet these challenges. So, 2067 01:28:35,679 --> 01:28:37,199 as Emily has pointed out to me, you 2068 01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:38,480 don't really come up with your final 2069 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,080 vision after you've collected all your 2070 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,600 data, gotten your input from your 2071 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,360 community and think, you know, what is 2072 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,280 the vision that the that the citizens 2073 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,159 actually want us to represent. 2074 01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:49,920 But it strikes me that also we need to 2075 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,480 be thinking about whether 2076 01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:54,320 what we as a committee think about this 2077 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,960 vision statement. And I'm wondering if 2078 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,360 anybody can uh bring forth an opinion 2079 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,920 upon whether this is what we would want 2080 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,159 to represent going forward or whether 2081 01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:06,880 there should be some modification, 2082 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,440 adjustment, amplification. Are there any 2083 01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:11,360 thoughts on this question of the vision 2084 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,760 statement? Because it becomes a guidance 2085 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:20,790 for the entire document. 2086 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,360 Charlie, 2087 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,080 >> I liked when we talked, I don't know, 2088 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,840 three three or four weeks ago, you 2089 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,000 mentioned putting something in there, an 2090 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,480 overarching statement uh to some effect 2091 01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:34,960 of to improve everyone's quality of 2092 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,840 life. As I I after talking to you, I 2093 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,320 agree this this is 100% to make sure 2094 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,040 make everyone's quality of life better 2095 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,239 and to to memorialize that somewhere in 2096 01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:49,679 it, I think is a good idea. 2097 01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:52,320 But I that's my opinion. Thank you. 2098 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,440 >> Other thoughts? Listen, 2099 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,239 >> I totally think that should be near the 2100 01:29:58,239 --> 01:30:00,400 top because that's the purpose of a 2101 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,520 plan. And if we pray put include that 2102 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,280 phrase in there, that helps people 2103 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:06,800 understand better like what's the 2104 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,600 purpose of the thing. It's 300 pages. 2105 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,000 You know, the purpose is we're trying to 2106 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,000 make sure that we at least maintain but 2107 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,040 improve quality of life for all. So, I 2108 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,560 would like that in there. And I'd also 2109 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,560 like some obviously some sort of 2110 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,600 overarching reference to the fact that 2111 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,080 we are experiencing and will continue 2112 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,000 experience the impacts from extreme 2113 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,159 weather events. 2114 01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:33,280 That's not really addressed. 2115 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,400 >> Let me look then down below where it 2116 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,120 says um 2117 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,960 we are challenged. So it says to meet 2118 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,600 these challenges we will and I could 2119 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,159 easily see placing in there a statement 2120 01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:48,560 of dealing with changes in extreme 2121 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,159 weather as one of these statements. 2122 01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:50,400 Yeah. 2123 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,719 >> So these statements have you know have 2124 01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:55,840 robust e robust economic growth have a 2125 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,560 thriving local economy and it mentions 2126 01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,920 quality of life and it says you know 2127 01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:01,679 wellqualified workforce with high 2128 01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:03,679 quality of life is actually mentioned in 2129 01:31:03,679 --> 01:31:06,560 here. um maintain highquality natural 2130 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,719 resources, continue its position in 2131 01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:10,560 stewardship of county, state, federal 2132 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,560 lands. So I think these subsidiary 2133 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,840 statements support then the the real 2134 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,280 simple vision that we're are our our 2135 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,360 goal is for the quality of life of the 2136 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,280 citizens of the county to be uh ever 2137 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:33,669 improved if we could. Other comments? 2138 01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:35,920 Well, at the very end that four-year 2139 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,320 higher educational institutions um seems 2140 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,880 like it needs an edit at this point. But 2141 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,960 it also strikes me having um taught at 2142 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,199 the tech school up here and like half my 2143 01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:48,480 load was online and ITV courses is 2144 01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:51,440 there's not a component in there related 2145 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:54,320 to um making use of the internet. So 2146 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,000 we're we're getting grant money. So 2147 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,440 Nvado is going to expand. That's going 2148 01:31:57,440 --> 01:32:00,000 to be really huge in a lot of ways. 2149 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,560 partly because socially younger people 2150 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,560 want to be able to get on to social 2151 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,480 media and stuff, you know, and connect 2152 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:08,080 with people, but also if they're going 2153 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,320 to start a business without internet 2154 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,120 access, it it's really hard. So, that 2155 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,120 part's going to help, but it also then 2156 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,400 expands educational opportunities beyond 2157 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,560 our traditional models of two-year 2158 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,960 schools, four-year schools and stuff for 2159 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,280 a lot of other learning that people can 2160 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,840 do um remotely um for whatever reason 2161 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,679 they want to learn things, starting a 2162 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:34,159 business or particular skills that they 2163 01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:36,960 want to learn, they can um access those 2164 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,719 things. So more and more of post high 2165 01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:43,600 school education, people are getting, 2166 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,440 you know, things they call certificates 2167 01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:47,760 and badges where they acquire a certain 2168 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,480 set of courses or skills from a variety 2169 01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:54,719 of online um places. Um so they can pick 2170 01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:56,480 the courses they want from the places 2171 01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:58,400 they want. And some of these places, and 2172 01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,520 they've been doing this for a good 2173 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,120 decade or more, they give what they call 2174 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,440 badges and certificates. And it's just 2175 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:04,880 an acknowledgement that somebody's 2176 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,120 acquired some background. And so we see 2177 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,960 far more of that than we used to. And 2178 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,880 the very last bullet doesn't reflect 2179 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,000 that. Um but it is what people are 2180 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,920 doing, especially if they don't want to 2181 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,840 in part because of child care and stuff. 2182 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,280 They don't want to go somewhere else to 2183 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,360 go to school like they used to, but they 2184 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,639 still want to acquire learning to better 2185 01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:30,870 their life here. 2186 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,719 » Yeah, I think we can build on that 2187 01:33:32,719 --> 01:33:36,239 comment. It's really significant because 2188 01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:39,440 this world of more advanced computing 2189 01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:40,800 which we're calling artificial 2190 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,320 intelligence but basically it's really 2191 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,840 high-speed deep research is 2192 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,600 democratizing education for people 2193 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,199 almost anywhere on the face of the 2194 01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:54,719 planet. So that someone through remote 2195 01:33:54,719 --> 01:33:56,880 learning whether formalized or 2196 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,239 unformalized has access to answering 2197 01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,800 almost any question that you can have. 2198 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,360 You can you can get an answer in about 2199 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,199 two minutes 2200 01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:09,040 by going online and you might have to go 2201 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,639 deeper to find out the truth. But I 2202 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:17,840 think you've raised you've opened the door on a on a subject matter that 2203 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,760 really does impact our future as a 2204 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,679 county. Lisa, did you have something? 2205 01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:23,440 >> Yeah. So could you would you see 2206 01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:25,280 something like keep that last sentence 2207 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,199 and then at the end it says educational 2208 01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:30,800 institutions and say or certification 2209 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,800 programs through in-person or online 2210 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,120 learning opportunities just add that 2211 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,800 would that like expand that last bullet 2212 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,239 with your comments to modernize it. um 2213 01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:44,239 something along that line. But I I've 2214 01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:47,199 also know people who have learned an 2215 01:34:47,199 --> 01:34:49,199 awful lot and it's like and you let's 2216 01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:50,320 say they want to start their own 2217 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,360 business. They can learn a lot online 2218 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,679 either through courses that are offered 2219 01:34:55,679 --> 01:34:59,360 by a an accredited institution but other 2220 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,199 sources that they can you know go to. 2221 01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:05,600 But that internet is a huge component of 2222 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,120 that because they've got to have the 2223 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,360 access to get there and then they find 2224 01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,440 the things that are of interest to them. 2225 01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:14,000 some of the stuff, you know, with the 2226 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,679 stuff at the farm and equipment and 2227 01:35:15,679 --> 01:35:18,000 repair. It's amazing how many I mean, 2228 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,600 I'm doing it now, too, you know, YouTube 2229 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,880 videos. I'm amazed at the people I've 2230 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,480 talked to. And there was a guy just a 2231 01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:26,480 couple of days ago I sold him something 2232 01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:28,800 and he was out at the farm and and he 2233 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,239 was showing me that he was doing I mean, 2234 01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:33,120 he's doing it all online. and it's all 2235 01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:34,880 um taking courses and programs and 2236 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,560 getting things certified, including 2237 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,400 something he's building, you know, where 2238 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,320 he need to get a a permit, you know, to 2239 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:41,520 make sure it was done right. It's 2240 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,440 astounding what some of these people are 2241 01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:45,840 doing, but it's not the formal education 2242 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,600 we think of. So, something broad enough 2243 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,600 that captures 2244 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,440 I don't care if I have a certificate or 2245 01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:56,639 badge also because you can do that. No, 2246 01:35:56,639 --> 01:35:59,440 >> I uh I wrote down here I might express 2247 01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:02,400 that as expanding remote learning 2248 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,199 opportunities. It's a really big 2249 01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:08,000 >> both formal and informal. So some I 2250 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,199 don't want somebody to think I have to 2251 01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:11,120 go to a school. I don't have to sign up 2252 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,600 for a class because so much of this is 2253 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,920 informal now 2254 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,719 and it meets their needs but they don't 2255 01:36:18,719 --> 01:36:21,040 want the bureaucracy of school or even 2256 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,800 the tuition in many cases of it. 2257 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,040 I'm just curious if you want us to go 2258 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,840 through like these one at a time or are 2259 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,080 we in a process where we're sending it 2260 01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,239 our comments to Emily like we are about 2261 01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:36,960 the issues and 2262 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,040 I think this is a good preliminary 2263 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,520 discussion but when we get into the 2264 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,520 actual visioning review after the 2265 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,679 subcommittees have met we'll take a look 2266 01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:47,600 at this as a full committee before we 2267 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,600 get into the goals and objectives as a 2268 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:50,880 full committee. 2269 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:51,440 >> Okay. 2270 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:52,719 >> Yes. There's a point of putting this on 2271 01:36:52,719 --> 01:36:54,400 the agenda is to get us thinking about 2272 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:55,280 this now. 2273 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:55,760 >> Yeah. 2274 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,239 >> About what has been said in the past 2275 01:36:58,239 --> 01:37:00,560 >> and so that we are 2276 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,199 >> Yeah. So that we're working for ideas. 2277 01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:06,159 But this is all kind of straw, you know, 2278 01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:08,400 coming up with preliminary ideas at this 2279 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,360 point. 2280 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:14,070 >> So 2281 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,920 I'm just trying to find a logical place 2282 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,480 to throw this in. I I would like this 2283 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:20,960 body's approval for two elements. I 2284 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,719 would like to I have a professor from 2285 01:37:22,719 --> 01:37:24,239 Northland who's willing to create a 2286 01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:27,440 sustainability element and I'm halfway 2287 01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:30,000 done writing a community health element 2288 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,000 and I just want to get this green lit 2289 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,199 here before I invest any more time in 2290 01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:38,800 it. Um and you asked me to bring this up 2291 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,520 here and I'm so is that how you wanted 2292 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,320 me to do it? I hope. 2293 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,360 So Charlie's proposing, 2294 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,960 as I understand your proposal, adding to 2295 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,960 um what you would call another element 2296 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,679 of of the comprehensive plan. So the 2297 01:37:55,679 --> 01:37:58,159 question is whether that you fit that in 2298 01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:00,400 within one of the existing subcommittee 2299 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,159 structures or whether it's appropriate 2300 01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:07,920 uh in what we file with the state to add 2301 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,040 these additional pieces. 2302 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,000 So I don't you have any thoughts on that 2303 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,400 Emily? Maybe Charlie maybe you could 2304 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:17,679 explain a little bit more for Emily what 2305 01:38:17,679 --> 01:38:18,639 you're thinking. 2306 01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:20,880 >> Sure. I was going through it and having 2307 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,719 done the last one I was was reading it 2308 01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:24,880 and I realized you know we have a health 2309 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,400 and human services but we don't have a 2310 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,080 section in there and community health is 2311 01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,760 very important but we don't mention it 2312 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,360 for quality of life. It it should have 2313 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,280 its own bullet up there and 2314 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,920 sustainability is is very important. and 2315 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,960 we have committees. We the city has the 2316 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,639 last sustainability committee that I'm 2317 01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:45,360 aware of, but we don't have a we don't 2318 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,199 have an element in the comprehensive 2319 01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:50,800 plan. So, I thought to me, I think they 2320 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,320 should absolutely have their own spot, 2321 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,000 but I'm just one guy and maybe I'm off 2322 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,000 the deck, but I'm willing to do the work 2323 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,719 to get a draft to this body to look at 2324 01:38:58,719 --> 01:39:00,800 if the body is interested in doing it 2325 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,480 and if you feel you can put it somewhere 2326 01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:05,119 in the plan. I don't care where it goes. 2327 01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:06,960 Doesn't have to have new elements. just 2328 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,199 it seems like that would be the 2329 01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:11,119 appropriate spot. But I I don't care as 2330 01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:13,520 long as I can do a an element and put 2331 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,520 goals and action items at the bottom and 2332 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:16,960 let us know what the challenges are, 2333 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,360 what the threats are. Uh community 2334 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,520 health has health services has a 2335 01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:22,880 community health assessment and a 2336 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,960 community health improvement plan, but 2337 01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,360 the plan is is lacking in action steps 2338 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,440 right now. I thought I would take that 2339 01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:32,639 and give it some teeth and then you know 2340 01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:35,119 some things we can do to get where we 2341 01:39:35,119 --> 01:39:36,400 need to be. 2342 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,719 in in that regard. So, it's just 2343 01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:40,159 throwing that out there. If you want me 2344 01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:42,080 to continue the march, I will and I'll 2345 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,760 have something for you well in time of 2346 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,840 your deadlines, but it is additional 2347 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,920 work. So, it it's your your guys's 2348 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,910 decision to make. 2349 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,040 » I think those sound like good things to 2350 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,800 incorporate into something like a 2351 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,040 comprehensive planning document. and 2352 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,000 whether or not those are specific 2353 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,159 standalone plan elements or you want to 2354 01:40:06,159 --> 01:40:08,080 integrate that throughout the 2355 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,040 comprehensive plan. Um, we could do 2356 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,239 either direction 2357 01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:17,119 >> and I think B County is rich with the 2358 01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:19,600 sustainability. They've infused it in 2359 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:20,639 the whole plan 2360 01:40:20,639 --> 01:40:23,520 >> and then they also added an introduction 2361 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,239 to their plan specifically about systems 2362 01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:28,639 thinking and sustainability. 2363 01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:31,920 >> Yeah. So I know with the extreme weather 2364 01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,760 we knew that there might be some 2365 01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,679 resistance in the county. Not everyone 2366 01:40:35,679 --> 01:40:37,840 believes that climate changing climate 2367 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,320 conditions are happening. So what we 2368 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,560 were trying to do was say okay let's not 2369 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,480 even deal with that but we know we are 2370 01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:47,119 having increased extreme weather and 2371 01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,400 then how can we infuse each of the nine 2372 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,800 elements with some acknowledgement and 2373 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,880 action on how to deal with how that 2374 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,119 affects housing or transportation or 2375 01:40:57,119 --> 01:41:00,080 natural resources. So to me that seemed 2376 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,800 like the more integrated approach like 2377 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,199 take sustainability actions and 2378 01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:07,199 principles and embed them into each of 2379 01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:10,239 the nine chapters where you can. But but 2380 01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:13,119 Bayfield counties is a great model for 2381 01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:16,480 how they did that. 2382 01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:18,320 >> Um let me get it. I 2383 01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,600 >> can I interject again? I'm sorry. 2384 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,239 >> Go ahead, Liz. You're online. Um, 2385 01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:27,280 Charlie, I think the community health is 2386 01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:31,600 very important and I'd like to see um 2387 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:37,360 you put into that um the epidemic of the 2388 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,880 drugs 2389 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:44,480 and the homeless and the because of them 2390 01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:48,320 out there um it is a big effect on their 2391 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,040 health, their their family's health. um 2392 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,840 they can't be taken in by family. Most 2393 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,800 of them, not all of them are actively 2394 01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:02,000 using and how is um how will that affect 2395 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,719 our future here? Um what do we need to 2396 01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:10,480 accommodate so there won't be more um 2397 01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:13,520 homeless individuals? Uh just recently 2398 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:17,280 on the scanner there was an OD. So I 2399 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,920 don't know the effects or the outcome 2400 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,880 yet. I'm hoping that they got to them in 2401 01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:28,480 time. Um it's also um a lot of people 2402 01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:33,440 that use have um committed felonies 2403 01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:36,719 and as a result of that cannot find jobs 2404 01:42:36,719 --> 01:42:41,600 or housing. So we have to see as a um 2405 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:46,320 going forward as a plan what can we do 2406 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:51,199 to help these future of these people cuz 2407 01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:54,639 they are they're community members long 2408 01:42:54,639 --> 01:42:58,560 as you know they're even actively using 2409 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,920 they're still our community members. 2410 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,360 Thank you. 2411 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,040 >> Let me throw in a point of information 2412 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,280 here. So it looks to me Charlie like 2413 01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,520 your your ideas are welcome. It's just a 2414 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,360 matter of where where fits in the final 2415 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,679 document is not won't be too much of an 2416 01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:16,639 issue. But if you go to the um the 2417 01:43:16,639 --> 01:43:18,800 minutes of the last health and human 2418 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,840 services board meeting on which agenda 2419 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,760 it requests input to the planning 2420 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,400 process. You'll find extensive 2421 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,600 documentation and answers to uh a lot of 2422 01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,920 the issues that you're concerned with. 2423 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,760 It's it's very extensive information 2424 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,480 there. Pat. Well, Alyssa said a lot of 2425 01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:38,560 what I was going to say. We have an ad 2426 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,480 hoc committee versus standing because 2427 01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:42,800 initially our chair wanted to have a 2428 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,199 committee on climate change, but from 2429 01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:47,280 what I read other than Monroe County, 2430 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:48,880 you know, they kind of form and then 2431 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,480 they go by the wayside and they don't 2432 01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:52,719 have any budget and they don't have 2433 01:43:52,719 --> 01:43:54,480 really any authority to compel anybody 2434 01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:56,719 to do something. So except for Monroe 2435 01:43:56,719 --> 01:43:58,560 County where they rotate groups in, you 2436 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,280 know, say related to egg or, you know, 2437 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,280 infrastructure for power or something, 2438 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,560 you know, then they kind of have a group 2439 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,159 that addresses something and then they 2440 01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:07,679 rotate to something else. So that has 2441 01:44:07,679 --> 01:44:10,000 worked. So we're a standing committee 2442 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,159 because climate change alone probably 2443 01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:13,920 wasn't going to get people to show up 2444 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,480 and do something and have a budget and 2445 01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:20,400 anything. So I this is off the top of my 2446 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,320 head what and I made some notes. What 2447 01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,320 maybe what we could do is so 2448 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,159 sustainability and climate change are 2449 01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:28,719 two important issues is that as I 2450 01:44:28,719 --> 01:44:31,199 develop questions for my pieces on egg 2451 01:44:31,199 --> 01:44:34,000 and forestry certainly I can tie climate 2452 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:35,760 change and sustainability into the 2453 01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,280 questions I ask um and work on with the 2454 01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,080 chapters I have but maybe we make a list 2455 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,600 of these things that we think are really 2456 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,679 important things community health on 2457 01:44:45,679 --> 01:44:48,480 that list too just as a reminder that as 2458 01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:50,880 we work on our sections and hold our 2459 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,840 public hearing things that we include 2460 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,760 these topics that we are trying to 2461 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,800 infuse. So we um infuse them to the 2462 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,639 extent that we can and then at some 2463 01:45:00,639 --> 01:45:02,560 point if we just really can't infuse 2464 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,320 something well then it would be clear 2465 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,800 that we need standalone but that way 2466 01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,159 we're all trying to infuse the things 2467 01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:10,159 that we as a group think are really 2468 01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:14,320 important to hit. Um and so certainly 2469 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,800 the sustainability for what I have 2470 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,560 absolutely I shouldn't miss that. Same 2471 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,719 with climate change for my two I 2472 01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:23,520 shouldn't miss that. 2473 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,600 Uh there's let me throw in just another 2474 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,760 word to add to the record here is that 2475 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,560 um just like talking about extreme 2476 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,239 weather is easier for some folks than 2477 01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:35,600 talking about um climate change. it can 2478 01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,199 be easier to talk about resilience 2479 01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:41,520 uh along with sustainability 2480 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,239 because that's u that's something that 2481 01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:47,440 people do relate to is is the ability to 2482 01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:50,320 you know be resilient. So any other 2483 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,400 thoughts 2484 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:53,040 Charlie 2485 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,600 >> I just want to be clear I I have the 2486 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,840 capacity to prepare two two things 2487 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,159 sustainability and community health. I'm 2488 01:46:00,159 --> 01:46:01,840 not doing anything on climate change, 2489 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,400 but if you want me to research climate 2490 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,400 change deep and bring the stuff here. 2491 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:07,840 >> No, I think we're saying that climate 2492 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:09,760 change folds into that. When you talk 2493 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,600 about sustainability, your climate 2494 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:12,960 change folds into it. 2495 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,560 >> Right. But it isn't the focus. 2496 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,239 >> But climate change folds into almost 2497 01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:17,440 every element. 2498 01:46:17,440 --> 01:46:17,840 >> Yeah. 2499 01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:19,199 >> On the table. 2500 01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:21,520 >> The backdrop to our lives now. Right. I 2501 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:26,149 agree. 2502 01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:28,800 I think we can move on to uh 2503 01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,360 subcommittee reports. 2504 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,040 See if we're doing any better this month 2505 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,360 than last month. Uh can we go around the 2506 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,239 table and see that's starting with you 2507 01:46:38,239 --> 01:46:39,520 Charlie? I think you almost just did a 2508 01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:40,960 subcommittee report in a sense. Push 2509 01:46:40,960 --> 01:47:12,870 yourself. 2510 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,400 Um, 2511 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,560 Kisha, would we have the ability for 2512 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:20,080 subcommittees to put draft materials 2513 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,480 onto SharePoint? 2514 01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:25,199 And how would they do that? So, would 2515 01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:27,280 Charlie send something to you then to be 2516 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,480 posted to SharePoint or 2517 01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:32,159 >> I'm not sure. I'll have to look into 2518 01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:34,560 that. I'm sorry. I'm not sure. I'll have 2519 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,760 to look into that. 2520 01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:42,719 Uh next next up is um Lisa 2521 01:47:42,719 --> 01:47:44,239 trends and issues. 2522 01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:47,280 >> Yeah. So um I've been floating this idea 2523 01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,040 around to different people who have let 2524 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,239 me know that they're really interested 2525 01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:54,000 in the plan. Um and they want to come to 2526 01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,560 like a quote meeting to review these 2527 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,560 kind of go through them and say which 2528 01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,480 ones are still relevant, which ones are 2529 01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:02,960 new. I was kind of waiting to get with 2530 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:04,560 regional planning because I knew they 2531 01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,560 have a process for reviewing this too. 2532 01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:10,000 So we we talked earlier about a good 2533 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,080 process, but I do like what you said 2534 01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,719 earlier, George, about each of our 2535 01:48:14,719 --> 01:48:18,639 subcommittees or subgroups would also 2536 01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:22,320 take these current um issues that were 2537 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,840 identified and review them together and 2538 01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,719 then somehow look at those as a big 2539 01:48:28,719 --> 01:48:31,920 picture to see what else pops up. you 2540 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,119 know, like I am now inundated with 2541 01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:39,119 reading about AI and the impacts of AI 2542 01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:41,520 development on communities in a whole 2543 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,920 bunch of invisible ways I never thought. 2544 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:48,080 Um, but I think if we look at all of 2545 01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:51,199 these new issues and opportunities that 2546 01:48:51,199 --> 01:48:53,440 are brought up in the subgroups and then 2547 01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:55,840 look at them as a whole, we'll get even 2548 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,679 more things that are going to present 2549 01:48:57,679 --> 01:49:05,669 themselves in the next 10 years. 2550 01:49:05,679 --> 01:49:07,199 Liz, do you want to add anything more 2551 01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:08,639 from the point of view of cultural 2552 01:49:08,639 --> 01:49:12,480 resources and community facilities? 2553 01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:15,920 >> Not at this time, but thank you. 2554 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,800 >> Uh, egg and forestry, natural resources. 2555 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:20,159 Pat, 2556 01:49:20,159 --> 01:49:22,719 >> so I'm on the farmland preservation 2557 01:49:22,719 --> 01:49:24,159 committee with Charlie. We had another 2558 01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:27,199 meeting yesterday. I think that update 2559 01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,679 will go a long way towards background 2560 01:49:29,679 --> 01:49:32,239 for the egg component as far as getting 2561 01:49:32,239 --> 01:49:35,920 ready to go from there. The forestry um 2562 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:37,920 for whatever reason a while back the 2563 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,280 forestry plan didn't show up on the 2564 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:40,800 county website. That should be there 2565 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:45,679 now. That's I 90 pages or so. So I'll 2566 01:49:45,679 --> 01:49:47,679 have to delve into that. But the next 2567 01:49:47,679 --> 01:49:50,560 couple weeks I've got my own stuff out 2568 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,840 at the farm related to this stuff. I'm 2569 01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,480 trying to keep up with doing that stuff. 2570 01:49:56,480 --> 01:50:00,880 I'm ready for the snow to fly in. Um 2571 01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,600 >> I I really am. 2572 01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,000 Okay. So, 2573 01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,159 next is transportation. I don't want to 2574 01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:11,119 put Paul on the spot because Paul agreed 2575 01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:13,520 to take the transportation part of this 2576 01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,920 off my hand so I could deal with other 2577 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:20,560 stuff. But um so but so far I had um the 2578 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,719 highway committee got back to us and uh 2579 01:50:24,719 --> 01:50:27,520 volunteered Tom Reamer to help with 2580 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,400 transportation representing highway. Uh 2581 01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:34,800 Dick Pufall represents the board to BART 2582 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,040 and he is willing to participate in that 2583 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,440 process as is uh there's a former board 2584 01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:41,040 member uh George Mika who would be 2585 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,360 interested in participating. 2586 01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,119 um Tom Yankee who's the chair of the 2587 01:50:45,119 --> 01:50:47,920 Harbor Commission uh will get someone 2588 01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,000 from Harbor Commission to participate. 2589 01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:51,920 So you'll have a group of people from 2590 01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,239 disparate sources and I'll pass this 2591 01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:56,800 information on to Paul to for sources of 2592 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,159 inputs. But do you want to add anything 2593 01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:01,199 to that Paul? 2594 01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:03,920 >> I've got a better blueprint of what my 2595 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,320 goals are after this meeting today. So 2596 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,880 thank you. 2597 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,600 So then next is I'm so I'm I'm hanging 2598 01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,760 on to utilities by which we mean 2599 01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,320 physical utilities like you know 2600 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,920 electrical service uh internet service 2601 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,679 um water utilities sewage utilities and 2602 01:51:23,679 --> 01:51:26,560 I will be uh list has provided me a 2603 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,080 number of names to contact to put 2604 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,239 together uh 2605 01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:33,360 a subcommittee for input to that and 2606 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,840 once we get um 2607 01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,760 the inputs from a number of these 2608 01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,280 sources is then we'll put together a 2609 01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,639 draft and and bring it back for the the 2610 01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:45,119 committee here to look at. 2611 01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:47,679 And then what comes after utilities is 2612 01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:50,480 housing. Uh Brad was excused today, so 2613 01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:53,440 he's working on housing. Uh land and 2614 01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:55,119 economic development is yours, Gary. 2615 01:51:55,119 --> 01:51:56,239 How's that going? 2616 01:51:56,239 --> 01:51:58,320 >> Well, you know, it's it's kind of funny 2617 01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,280 when you read the plan because I saw two 2618 01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,080 issues that brought something else to 2619 01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,639 mine in economic development. One says 2620 01:52:06,639 --> 01:52:08,159 promote and leverage the county's 2621 01:52:08,159 --> 01:52:11,119 assets, natural resources, which you 2622 01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:13,360 know we should do. It brings people to 2623 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:17,280 the county. The other one says um 2624 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,119 provide maintenance and expansion of the 2625 01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:22,000 tourism industry, which is good for us. 2626 01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,159 But here's the situations that's 2627 01:52:24,159 --> 01:52:26,800 developed in my area. In a two-mile 2628 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,639 radius of my home, 10 homes have been 2629 01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:33,360 sold in the last three years. 2630 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,880 Only one is a local resident. Nine of 2631 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,400 them are not year round residents. We 2632 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:43,599 have a problem. I'm not knocking the 2633 01:52:43,599 --> 01:52:46,480 people using these homes as a vacation 2634 01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:48,239 stop, 2635 01:52:48,239 --> 01:52:51,440 but that's not a good trend. It's not 2636 01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:53,760 good for the schools. It's not good for 2637 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,599 the county because these people are 2638 01:52:55,599 --> 01:52:57,679 here. One of the homes, they're here 2639 01:52:57,679 --> 01:52:59,679 maybe three weeks out of the whole year. 2640 01:52:59,679 --> 01:53:01,440 It's a home off the market to the 2641 01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:03,760 locals. I keep telling the young people 2642 01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,920 to stay. They say I can't find a house. 2643 01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,920 Well, I know why now. So, it, you know, 2644 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,880 I think in our it's just a long range 2645 01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,639 issue. We could not going to solve it 2646 01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:17,520 today or tomorrow, but um we have a 2647 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,440 problem with the homes being bought up 2648 01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:21,119 by people who don't live here a full 2649 01:53:21,119 --> 01:53:24,560 year. And and it it's scary when I look 2650 01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,639 around my neighborhood. The houses are 2651 01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:29,119 all empty for a few weeks out of the 2652 01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:31,520 year. And these aren't cheap homes 2653 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,320 either. I mean, the one that just sold 2654 01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,040 is $677,000. 2655 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:38,960 It's not like anybody local is going to 2656 01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,840 buy that anyways, I don't believe. But 2657 01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,520 it's the home that's off the market in 2658 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:48,159 80 acres that's gone. So, um, it it's, 2659 01:53:48,159 --> 01:53:50,400 you know, that's why we want to promote 2660 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,320 tourism. It's great for the county. It's 2661 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,480 great for the area. We get a lot of 2662 01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:58,080 revenue from that. But I'm seeing more 2663 01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,920 and more people come up here and light 2664 01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:02,880 the pl the area, but they don't want to 2665 01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,840 live here year round. So somewhere we 2666 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:07,520 have to address that. And I don't we're 2667 01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,719 not going to solve that problem 2668 01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:10,880 ourselves. But it's just something to 2669 01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,800 think about as you see what's going on 2670 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,639 in at least the southern part of the 2671 01:54:14,639 --> 01:54:17,599 county. 2672 01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:20,000 >> Okay. And moving on to risk and 2673 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:21,599 opportunities. That was you, Lisa. 2674 01:54:21,599 --> 01:54:24,639 Anything on that at this point? 2675 01:54:24,639 --> 01:54:27,040 No, I was kind of thinking that that 2676 01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,760 discussion again would pop up in each of 2677 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:33,040 the subgroups but also 2678 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:36,480 for brevity or efficiency have the 2679 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,280 issues and opportunities combined with 2680 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,080 the discussion of the threats. You know, 2681 01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:44,800 because people will often say, "Here's 2682 01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,360 an issue. Outside people are buying 2683 01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:50,880 homes, short-term rentals or seasonal 2684 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:52,560 and then here's a threat." you know, 2685 01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,159 right away you said, "Here's a threat. 2686 01:54:54,159 --> 01:54:56,000 Now, now I don't have a community. I 2687 01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,599 don't have active people that are 2688 01:54:57,599 --> 01:55:00,159 volunteering for my rescue operations or 2689 01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:02,560 running for town board, you know, so the 2690 01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,280 issue often leads right to the threat." 2691 01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:06,719 So, I was thinking that really our 2692 01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:09,679 conversation about those should somehow 2693 01:55:09,679 --> 01:55:14,320 be a big picture of all of those things, 2694 01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,719 not separately. 2695 01:55:16,719 --> 01:55:20,390 That makes sense. 2696 01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,960 Okay, I think we can move on then to our 2697 01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:27,360 next uh agenda item which is publicity 2698 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,599 and public participation plan allocation 2699 01:55:29,599 --> 01:55:34,719 of tasks. Um do we have that list there 2700 01:55:34,719 --> 01:55:37,280 online? 2701 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,320 Not the committees. We need the um the 2702 01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:44,870 public participation plan. 2703 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,880 Is that is there is on the document or 2704 01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,239 do we have to go into the web page? 2705 01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:52,000 Yeah. go to the public participation 2706 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,480 plan 2707 01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,400 and then scroll to the section toward 2708 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,239 the end that lists all the different 2709 01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:00,000 mechanisms 2710 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:09,350 of uh communication. 2711 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:18,390 Okay. Oops. Not there. Focus. 2712 01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:19,840 Yeah. There you go. That's those. Yeah. 2713 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:28,149 a little bit more. 2714 01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:31,119 Okay. So, this is a question of whether 2715 01:56:31,119 --> 01:56:35,119 anybody is up for doing anything here. 2716 01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:37,440 Um, 2717 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:43,760 I talked to Mary McFetridge at um, 2718 01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:45,199 Chamber of Commerce, Ashlin Chamber of 2719 01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:47,840 Commerce, and she's willing to 2720 01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:50,719 distribute a um, a newsletter 2721 01:56:50,719 --> 01:56:53,040 for us. So, do we have that draft 2722 01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:56,870 newsletter there? 2723 01:56:56,880 --> 01:57:02,470 It's uh 2724 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:03,920 is it one of the other documents 2725 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,800 attached? 2726 01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:11,270 >> Okay. 2727 01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:12,800 Oh, that is the that is the draft 2728 01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,360 newsletter right there. Is that okay? 2729 01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,520 I just drafted a one pager to be 2730 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:20,480 an example of what could easily be done. 2731 01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:23,679 Uh so chamber of commerce has a broad 2732 01:57:23,679 --> 01:57:25,199 dissemination 2733 01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:27,280 and uh we can use other mechanisms of 2734 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,960 dissemination of well but uh 2735 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:32,800 Mary is very uh willing to be very 2736 01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,360 helpful and suggested a lot of different 2737 01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:36,960 uh you know getting it out to other 2738 01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,239 chambers in the area and she'll do this 2739 01:57:40,239 --> 01:57:43,119 for us. I asked to do it quarterly. I 2740 01:57:43,119 --> 01:57:45,679 would just probably do a one pager and 2741 01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:47,040 this is what I would have put in the 2742 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:48,560 first one pager. would has to be 2743 01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,080 reformatted so it looks more like a 2744 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,480 newsletter, but that would satisfy the 2745 01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,599 legal requirement and also be useful to 2746 01:57:55,599 --> 01:57:56,719 people into something that can be 2747 01:57:56,719 --> 01:57:58,320 printed out, put up as a poster on 2748 01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:00,480 bulletin boards and start disseminating 2749 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:02,159 the information. So, I'm I'm happy to 2750 01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:04,639 take on that tasks. 2751 01:58:04,639 --> 01:58:06,400 So, now we can go back to the list of 2752 01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,440 the other tasks and see if anybody wants 2753 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:16,709 to sign up. 2754 01:58:16,719 --> 01:58:20,960 We have what? Uh 2755 01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,480 but it's hard to for me to read from 2756 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:28,390 here. 2757 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,960 You got to scroll scroll back upwards. 2758 01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:35,520 Each one of the he bold ones is a 2759 01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,560 category. You see that? You should have 2760 01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,599 bolded. So public mailings. What? I can 2761 01:58:41,599 --> 01:58:43,520 hardly read those though. 2762 01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:49,030 Can you make that a little bit bigger? 2763 01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:53,440 Ah, here we go. Thank you. 2764 01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,040 So, 2765 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:57,360 the categories are Oh, that says public 2766 01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:58,560 meetings. We know we're going to do 2767 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:01,280 that. Uh, community display exhibit. 2768 01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:02,880 Lisa, were you going to try something 2769 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:05,760 with that? Anything? 2770 01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:09,840 >> Um, sort of. I'm working with Blake on a 2771 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,320 um bulletin board downstairs on the 2772 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:13,840 first floor outside the extension 2773 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,119 office. 2774 01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:18,159 >> Um this is sort of a template. So I'll 2775 01:59:18,159 --> 01:59:21,119 give people a copy of that. It's also um 2776 01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:24,480 a handout that we'll put attach to the 2777 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:28,239 wall um where people can give their 2778 01:59:28,239 --> 01:59:31,199 public input or we can tell them where 2779 01:59:31,199 --> 01:59:33,119 to send it. They can either leave it 2780 01:59:33,119 --> 01:59:36,960 with us. um that's not mobile for public 2781 01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:39,440 display, but it's our first shot at 2782 01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,520 making something for the courthouse, you 2783 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,400 know. Then we'll try something that's 2784 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:45,920 mobile that could maybe go to the 2785 01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,080 libraries or community centers or 2786 01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:50,239 something like that. 2787 01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:52,400 >> Okay. So, we've got a publicly is 2788 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:54,800 working on public display. The next one 2789 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,719 is media releases. Erica, were you going 2790 01:59:56,719 --> 01:59:59,599 to do something on a press release? 2791 01:59:59,599 --> 02:00:02,639 >> Sure. Do you have a deadline for me? And 2792 02:00:02,639 --> 02:00:06,080 I think it would be really beneficial um 2793 02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,920 as I brought up I think the past two 2794 02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:10,400 meetings if we had some sort of image to 2795 02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:11,840 go with it if it's going to go in the 2796 02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:17,119 newspapers. Um so if we have suggestions 2797 02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:21,280 for an image if we want to do the tree 2798 02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:23,840 planting thing it is coming on fall 2799 02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:27,119 quickly now. Um, 2800 02:00:27,119 --> 02:00:29,119 I can draft anything at any time, but if 2801 02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:30,719 we want it to actually be read, I think 2802 02:00:30,719 --> 02:00:36,070 we should probably put an image with it. 2803 02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:38,239 » Um, any suggestions along that line? I 2804 02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:39,040 don't think we're going to have a tree 2805 02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:40,800 planting this fall. It's going to be 2806 02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:42,639 late. You want you don't want the tree 2807 02:00:42,639 --> 02:00:45,760 to die the next. So, we're probably 2808 02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:47,119 that's probably not going to come about 2809 02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:48,880 be my opinion. and everybody else thinks 2810 02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,040 otherwise. 2811 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:52,880 You know, I don't I think planting a 2812 02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:56,000 tree in September or October is probably 2813 02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,000 reduces the chance of success for the 2814 02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,280 tree. Uh Pat, you have any insight on 2815 02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:02,960 that? 2816 02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:04,719 >> Well, some trees you can transplant in 2817 02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:05,760 the fall. You know, once they go 2818 02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:07,599 dormant, you can move them, but not all 2819 02:01:07,599 --> 02:01:10,000 species do transplanting very well in 2820 02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,080 the fall. So, depend on the tree and 2821 02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:13,840 they should be dormant. 2822 02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:15,440 Um, 2823 02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,119 but I think offhand, you know, a lot of 2824 02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:18,639 people they think of tree planting in 2825 02:01:18,639 --> 02:01:20,000 the spring because that's when most 2826 02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:23,119 people do it. My gut level reaction is a 2827 02:01:23,119 --> 02:01:24,639 lot of people might say, why are they 2828 02:01:24,639 --> 02:01:28,000 planting a tree in the fall? Um, we 2829 02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,000 might lose them just from don't they 2830 02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,360 know you do that in the spring? Um, 2831 02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:36,239 there is that bit of it. The courthouse 2832 02:01:36,239 --> 02:01:38,000 people recognize that it just got 2833 02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:39,840 redone. 2834 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:41,440 They, 2835 02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,440 you know, Ashlin County, they the 2836 02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:45,199 courthouse image has been around a long 2837 02:01:45,199 --> 02:01:48,400 time, more than 100 years. 2838 02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,560 We could put you and a few others in 2839 02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:51,920 front with a picture. 2840 02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:53,440 >> Yeah. I can't I can't think any other 2841 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:56,560 image, but you know, you can make a a a 2842 02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,639 bit of news out of the idea that 2843 02:01:58,639 --> 02:02:02,400 courthouse facade was repointed this 2844 02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,199 past sum this summer and that was, you 2845 02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:06,480 know, sort of part of planning for the 2846 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,159 future. Is there any other ideas for an 2847 02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:10,320 image that Erica could could put with a 2848 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,520 release? Listen, 2849 02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:13,199 >> I have one on I think it's on my 2850 02:02:13,199 --> 02:02:15,040 Facebook page right now of the 2851 02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,599 courthouse in the front. It's an aerial 2852 02:02:17,599 --> 02:02:20,239 view. It might be from Edmond Row. Um 2853 02:02:20,239 --> 02:02:22,639 and then you can see the city in the 2854 02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:26,400 back and even some farmland back there. 2855 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,880 I'll link you to it. That sounds great. 2856 02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:31,599 But that I I'm pretty sure that's on my 2857 02:02:31,599 --> 02:02:32,880 Facebook right now 2858 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:34,880 >> because I think we we were thinking of 2859 02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:36,560 doing a press release at the time of the 2860 02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:38,000 signing of the contract with Northwest 2861 02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,480 Regional Planning. If I recall, 2862 02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,520 >> it was just sent to us last week. It is 2863 02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,679 now fully executed and signed. 2864 02:02:45,679 --> 02:02:51,030 >> Okay, this be timely then. Fantastic. 2865 02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:55,830 Open house that seems down the road. 2866 02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,719 Uh what Karishia has done with the 2867 02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:00,480 planning committee page on the Ashlin 2868 02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,599 County website seems to me to serve the 2869 02:03:03,599 --> 02:03:05,199 purpose that we're looking for. Unless 2870 02:03:05,199 --> 02:03:07,440 anybody thinks we should go beyond that, 2871 02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:08,880 we can add a lot to this, but I think 2872 02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:10,239 Karisha has done a really good job so 2873 02:03:10,239 --> 02:03:31,669 far. 2874 02:03:31,679 --> 02:03:35,189 comprehensive_planning 2875 02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:42,229 committee. 2876 02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:44,880 So next on the list of uh communications 2877 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:48,239 advice is an emailing list. 2878 02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:49,679 I don't know if we have anybody that has 2879 02:03:49,679 --> 02:03:52,880 a capacity or wants to work on this and 2880 02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:54,159 I'm not sure what it would be. Any 2881 02:03:54,159 --> 02:03:58,709 ideas? 2882 02:03:58,719 --> 02:04:00,239 So, I think that's one where, you know, 2883 02:04:00,239 --> 02:04:03,280 we're still pondering. 2884 02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:07,280 Uh, next on this list was 2885 02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,800 newsletter, which I've signed up for, 2886 02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,280 handling written comments. We did a test 2887 02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:17,440 of the link there. So, uh, Karisha has 2888 02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:21,040 on the website the link to send an email 2889 02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:23,599 comment or question in and we tested it 2890 02:04:23,599 --> 02:04:26,639 and it goes to myself and Erica and Dan. 2891 02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:28,639 Did you get a copy of that, Lisa? Maybe 2892 02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:30,880 not. So, so you know, I've definitely 2893 02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:32,880 received if someone sends in a question, 2894 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,360 Dan and Erica, but we've received none 2895 02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:37,119 so far. But the link is there. It's on 2896 02:04:37,119 --> 02:04:38,880 the website. All we have to say to 2897 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,480 people is, hey, the link is there. If 2898 02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:42,080 you want to send in some input, go 2899 02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:43,679 ahead. 2900 02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:46,639 So that's for written comments and 2901 02:04:46,639 --> 02:04:48,480 public hearings seem to be in our future 2902 02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,960 and that is oh then we come to the 2903 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,920 survey which we've talked about which is 2904 02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:56,880 Emily 2905 02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,719 and we have the steering committee and 2906 02:04:58,719 --> 02:05:00,960 focus groups which are basically the uh 2907 02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,440 subcommittees that pretty much says 2908 02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,040 we're doing almost everything that we 2909 02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,520 said in our public participation plan at 2910 02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,639 least in some small way. Are there 2911 02:05:10,639 --> 02:05:16,709 comments? 2912 02:05:16,719 --> 02:05:20,550 So, 2913 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:22,400 uh, social media, is social media on 2914 02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,159 this list? 2915 02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:26,320 I know we talked about it in the past. 2916 02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:30,070 Um, 2917 02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:32,320 I have I can show you this. I put this 2918 02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:35,360 on my work page, an announcement of this 2919 02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,080 meeting, and I'll put this on my 2920 02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:39,840 Facebook page, and then I share it to 2921 02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:42,239 like, I don't know, six other Ashlin 2922 02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:45,360 based sites, Facebook pages that says, 2923 02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:47,119 "Here's a meeting." And I think I'm 2924 02:05:47,119 --> 02:05:48,800 going to just use that picture over and 2925 02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,920 over. It's a non-copyrighted um antique 2926 02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:53,599 postcard 2927 02:05:53,599 --> 02:05:56,000 that I thought was really beautiful way 2928 02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,159 to look at Ashlin County, but kind of 2929 02:05:58,159 --> 02:06:01,520 use that as a Facebook mini brand, you 2930 02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:03,599 know, so that hopefully people see that 2931 02:06:03,599 --> 02:06:05,520 enough and they know it's Ashlin County 2932 02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:11,510 meeting. 2933 02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:12,880 We're going above and beyond. That's 2934 02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:14,320 great. 2935 02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:20,320 Uh so we can move on to um we basically 2936 02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:22,000 have handled communication mechanism 2937 02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:23,760 updates unless somebody has a comment on 2938 02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:26,480 it. 2939 02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,719 And we can move on to status of township 2940 02:06:28,719 --> 02:06:32,400 and committee inputs. Um I don't think 2941 02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,000 we've made any headway there. I know I 2942 02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,040 haven't. But um if nobody else is 2943 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:38,719 interested, I can take that up. Anybody 2944 02:06:38,719 --> 02:06:40,800 else interested in taking up the 2945 02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:45,280 communication with the um town boards? 2946 02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:52,709 Okay, I'll take that assignment then. 2947 02:06:52,719 --> 02:06:55,199 And then we move on to reviewing our 2948 02:06:55,199 --> 02:06:57,599 progress versus our columnized work 2949 02:06:57,599 --> 02:07:00,079 plan. 2950 02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:12,470 I think Emily, what do you think? 2951 02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:35,669 I can pull that up for us. 2952 02:07:35,679 --> 02:07:39,750 We have 2953 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:43,040 a sort of timeline by task. And I'm not 2954 02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:45,920 so worried about 2955 02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:47,840 the whether or not we're in within the 2956 02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:50,000 month 2957 02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,480 of the tasks, but so much the order of 2958 02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:55,920 operations. So, we're at uh the steering 2959 02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,239 committee meeting number one, the plan 2960 02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:00,800 update overview. Uh we didn't yet get to 2961 02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:02,639 the issues and opportunities round table 2962 02:08:02,639 --> 02:08:04,000 because we'll focus on the survey 2963 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:07,599 questions first but that'll probably 2964 02:08:07,599 --> 02:08:09,599 occur at our third meeting the review of 2965 02:08:09,599 --> 02:08:12,880 the issues and opportunities. 2966 02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,520 So, it looks like we're just on schedule 2967 02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:18,239 and then we'll work on um the updated 2968 02:08:18,239 --> 02:08:22,639 draft plan chapters and uh put those on 2969 02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:27,189 to the SharePoint. 2970 02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:30,880 » Uh discussion or comments? 2971 02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:34,880 >> If not, we can move on to item number 2972 02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:37,280 six, which is the second opportunity for 2973 02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:39,679 public comment. Is there anybody online 2974 02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:42,159 for public comment? 2975 02:08:42,159 --> 02:08:43,840 Seeing nobody present here on road, 2976 02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,000 nobody on the line, we will move on to 2977 02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:49,840 item number seven is um committee review 2978 02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:51,040 of public comments. There haven't been 2979 02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:52,400 no public comments, we don't have to 2980 02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:53,599 review any. Listen, do you have a 2981 02:08:53,599 --> 02:08:53,920 comment? 2982 02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:55,520 >> I'll just throw one thing out. Another 2983 02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:56,719 project I've been working on with 2984 02:08:56,719 --> 02:08:58,320 WMadison's 2985 02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:02,079 community research team is um we're 2986 02:09:02,079 --> 02:09:04,320 calling it New North, New Neighbors. And 2987 02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:08,079 it is a project that is um interviewing 2988 02:09:08,079 --> 02:09:09,760 people who have moved to Ashlin County 2989 02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,880 since 2020 to find out where they came 2990 02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:15,920 from and why they picked Ashlin County 2991 02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,400 and why they moved and then how they're 2992 02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,719 integrating in whatever community they 2993 02:09:20,719 --> 02:09:23,040 lived in. So, it's part of a civic 2994 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:27,360 engagement research project. Um, we had 2995 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,560 120 people reply, which is pretty really 2996 02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:33,119 good for up here, but we narrowed it 2997 02:09:33,119 --> 02:09:36,880 down to 90 or 93 actual surveys because 2998 02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:40,560 people didn't finish or they screwed up. 2999 02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:42,880 So, um, if anybody's interested in that, 3000 02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,159 I can send it around. mainly um it's 3001 02:09:46,159 --> 02:09:48,400 preliminary results right now, but I 3002 02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:50,719 made a copy of one of the questions I 3003 02:09:50,719 --> 02:09:51,920 thought you might be interested. What 3004 02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,360 would you say are the biggest reasons 3005 02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,360 why you decided to live in Ashlin 3006 02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:57,760 County? And then the second one was sort 3007 02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:00,079 of an open-ended question about what 3008 02:10:00,079 --> 02:10:02,079 else do you want to tell us about your 3009 02:10:02,079 --> 02:10:05,840 community that we didn't ask you? Um 3010 02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:08,239 and there are some really fascinating 3011 02:10:08,239 --> 02:10:11,040 things that I think could help inform 3012 02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,840 this project. Um, I find one of the 3013 02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:17,040 comments was, "I find transplants, other 3014 02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:19,360 transplants to Ashland are a lot more 3015 02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,679 welcoming and more open to connecting 3016 02:10:21,679 --> 02:10:23,280 with new people than with long-term 3017 02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:25,760 residents." So, they're working with 3018 02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:27,440 each other. They're finding each other, 3019 02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:28,800 but they're finding the long-term 3020 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:30,639 residents not to be that welcoming, 3021 02:10:30,639 --> 02:10:32,719 which I think is kind of important 3022 02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:36,079 information. Um, things that we know, we 3023 02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:37,840 wish there was more for young people to 3024 02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:40,400 do. It's definitely a targeted to the 3025 02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:44,480 retirement community. Um 3026 02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:47,920 I'm concerned about water quality. Um 3027 02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:49,679 you need better support for people in 3028 02:10:49,679 --> 02:10:52,079 recovery. And then some really 3029 02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:55,840 interesting things that um I thought are 3030 02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:57,760 what called acidbased community 3031 02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,320 development. ABCD. If you have cool 3032 02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:02,480 things in your community to live, they 3033 02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:05,360 will come and find work. And here was an 3034 02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:07,520 answer exactly to that. We wanted to 3035 02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:09,440 raise our family in the country or a 3036 02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:12,000 small town and this area has a hospital, 3037 02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:15,920 a college, a cooperative, and a Walmart. 3038 02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:17,679 We're very sad that Northland closed 3039 02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:19,440 this year because the college added 3040 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,599 something to the area that cannot easily 3041 02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:23,760 be replicated, but we were looking for 3042 02:11:23,760 --> 02:11:26,800 community assets like this. So, I don't 3043 02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:28,320 know if anybody's interested. I can 3044 02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:31,280 email that to everyone when the new when 3045 02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:31,920 the whole 3046 02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:33,199 >> Is that something you can share with us 3047 02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:34,880 on SharePoint 3048 02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:35,520 >> that people 3049 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:36,960 >> they certainly could or um 3050 02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:38,800 >> it sounds really relevant. 3051 02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,679 >> Yeah, I think you'd enjoy um hearing 3052 02:11:41,679 --> 02:11:44,480 their comments. I'll work with you on 3053 02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,280 how to share that with everybody. Okay, 3054 02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:48,639 thanks. 3055 02:11:48,639 --> 02:11:50,639 >> Okay, I think we're up to other 3056 02:11:50,639 --> 02:11:52,159 business. Do I have an attachment under 3057 02:11:52,159 --> 02:12:01,830 other business? 3058 02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:03,440 Yeah. Okay. Now, just scroll until you 3059 02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:06,159 see some yellow. Okay. 3060 02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:08,239 So, 3061 02:12:08,239 --> 02:12:10,560 I put this in under other business. It 3062 02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:13,119 relates to the point that Charlie raised 3063 02:12:13,119 --> 02:12:15,119 earlier and that Pat spoke to is that 3064 02:12:15,119 --> 02:12:17,440 this is a standing committee for 3065 02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:22,560 planning of a for Ashlin County. 3066 02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:27,189 And if I have it here. 3067 02:12:27,199 --> 02:12:31,440 So I've highlighted here a lot of things 3068 02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,880 that have to do with quality of life 3069 02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:39,760 which are in the existing plan 3070 02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:41,440 and 3071 02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:46,079 we had a com some comments earlier 3072 02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:48,239 as to 3073 02:12:48,239 --> 02:12:52,159 um recreational facilities and if you I 3074 02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:53,040 know you're probably not going to be 3075 02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:54,320 able to read this. Can we blow this up a 3076 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:57,280 little bit? Can we 3077 02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:59,520 or is it George stuck there? Yeah, just 3078 02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:01,679 slowly scroll through and let people see 3079 02:13:01,679 --> 02:13:04,480 what I've highlighted there. Uh maintain 3080 02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:06,800 national resources, continue uh 3081 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,199 stewardship for the county 3082 02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:11,840 uh resource opportunities, 3083 02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:15,840 uh continue uh keep going. 3084 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:17,520 What's this one? It says investigate 3085 02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:19,520 opportunities for providing additional 3086 02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,679 camp experiences for county county 3087 02:13:21,679 --> 02:13:25,750 youth. Keep going. 3088 02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,079 Stop. Uh, develop potential for youth 3089 02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:30,639 adult camping experiences. 3090 02:13:30,639 --> 02:13:32,560 Go. 3091 02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:34,560 Uh, encourage preservation and 3092 02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:36,320 protection of environmental corridors 3093 02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:38,880 for wildlife, water quality, values, and 3094 02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:42,880 habitat protection. Keep going. 3095 02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:44,480 Uh, what's this one say? Amenities 3096 02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:47,440 consistent with county rural character. 3097 02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:50,639 Open up the county budgeting process to 3098 02:13:50,639 --> 02:13:53,360 engage all members of the county board. 3099 02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:55,599 improve county infrastructure, including 3100 02:13:55,599 --> 02:13:57,440 county facilities in order to make the 3101 02:13:57,440 --> 02:14:00,239 county a more attractive and desirable 3102 02:14:00,239 --> 02:14:02,320 community in which to live and start to 3103 02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:05,920 grow a business going. So, let me get 3104 02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:07,840 through the rest of this M. Here's one 3105 02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:10,719 that really caught my attention. Parks. 3106 02:14:10,719 --> 02:14:13,280 We have adequate parks according to the 3107 02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:15,040 plan. I just found that a little bit 3108 02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:17,760 confusing. Keep going. 3109 02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:19,679 Uh, what's this one? Parks and open 3110 02:14:19,679 --> 02:14:22,719 space are an objective of the existing 3111 02:14:22,719 --> 02:14:24,960 comprehensive plan. Keep going. Oh, 3112 02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:26,960 whoops. What did we miss there? Parks 3113 02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:29,119 and recreation attractions in the county 3114 02:14:29,119 --> 02:14:31,679 like the White River Wildlife Area south 3115 02:14:31,679 --> 02:14:34,719 of Ashlin. Keep going. And this is 3116 02:14:34,719 --> 02:14:36,719 what's interesting. These are the 3117 02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:38,960 fastest growing economic sectors in the 3118 02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:42,239 state of Wisconsin. The second is 3119 02:14:42,239 --> 02:14:45,440 amusement and recreation services. So 3120 02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:49,280 that is supporting the attractiveness of 3121 02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:52,239 Ashlin County in terms of outdoor 3122 02:14:52,239 --> 02:14:55,280 recreation parks and facilities is 3123 02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:58,480 something that is in our current plan 3124 02:14:58,480 --> 02:15:00,960 and my personal perspective is one that 3125 02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:03,760 we have not paying enough attention to. 3126 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:05,920 So I've only I think that's probably the 3127 02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:07,040 last of it. Can you scroll a little bit 3128 02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:09,280 further? Is there any more? 3129 02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:11,040 What does that say? Recreational trails. 3130 02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:13,679 is the trails for recreation are an 3131 02:15:13,679 --> 02:15:15,360 important component of local recreation 3132 02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:17,520 opportunities. Tourism trails in the 3133 02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:19,520 county are shown in the transportation 3134 02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:21,760 uh section document. And I think maybe 3135 02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:24,079 that's Oops, there's more. Yeah, keep 3136 02:15:24,079 --> 02:15:25,599 going. 3137 02:15:25,599 --> 02:15:29,440 Issue. There we go. Okay. Issues uh lack 3138 02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:31,360 of recreation facilities for youth, lack 3139 02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:33,119 of recreation facilities for teenagers, 3140 02:15:33,119 --> 02:15:34,960 lack of recreation facilities for 3141 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:37,920 elderly, provision of more passive 3142 02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:40,320 unorganized recreation opportunities. 3143 02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:42,719 Citizens wanting more public facilities, 3144 02:15:42,719 --> 02:15:44,960 parks and shelters, more public 3145 02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:47,360 facilities, trails, forestry committee, 3146 02:15:47,360 --> 02:15:50,639 and is there any more? 3147 02:15:50,639 --> 02:15:53,679 Okay. Public access to streams. And I 3148 02:15:53,679 --> 02:15:56,159 think that's probably the end of this. 3149 02:15:56,159 --> 02:15:59,119 So my point is this is the existing 3150 02:15:59,119 --> 02:16:02,639 plan. This was put in place 10 years ago 3151 02:16:02,639 --> 02:16:06,239 and we are basically I mean we can only 3152 02:16:06,239 --> 02:16:07,760 afford a little bit because we don't 3153 02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:09,760 have a whole lot of extra budget but it 3154 02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:11,679 strikes me that this is the type of 3155 02:16:11,679 --> 02:16:13,679 thing that a standing committee should 3156 02:16:13,679 --> 02:16:16,079 be monitoring and looking for 3157 02:16:16,079 --> 02:16:19,119 opportunities when they might exist. 3158 02:16:19,119 --> 02:16:21,040 Anybody want to comment or discuss the 3159 02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:24,149 issue 3160 02:16:24,159 --> 02:16:26,560 that 3161 02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:28,400 some of that language in there like open 3162 02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:31,199 up the budget process to the entire 3163 02:16:31,199 --> 02:16:32,639 county board. There's some things in 3164 02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:33,920 here that were in the farmland 3165 02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:36,479 preservation plan 10 years ago too. And 3166 02:16:36,479 --> 02:16:38,319 so I mean literally verbatim. And so I 3167 02:16:38,319 --> 02:16:40,880 think some of what we've looked at came 3168 02:16:40,880 --> 02:16:43,519 from farmland preservation. And I don't 3169 02:16:43,519 --> 02:16:48,800 want to say cut and paste but some of it looks that way. but on the the the 3170 02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:50,319 recreational opportunities that would 3171 02:16:50,319 --> 02:16:52,000 fall under forestry the way the county 3172 02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:54,000 is organized and so one it's really 3173 02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:57,200 struck me my time on the board um having 3174 02:16:57,200 --> 02:16:58,800 grown up in Bayfield County you know 3175 02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:01,599 lots of lakes parks and recreational 3176 02:17:01,599 --> 02:17:03,599 stuff and you get to Ashlin County it 3177 02:17:03,599 --> 02:17:05,679 took me a while to realize you know 3178 02:17:05,679 --> 02:17:08,399 based on data how much less you have 3179 02:17:08,399 --> 02:17:10,639 except for access lake superior how many 3180 02:17:10,639 --> 02:17:13,439 fewer inland lakes lack of parks 3181 02:17:13,439 --> 02:17:15,200 relative to Bayfield County and there's 3182 02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:17,760 a big difference in the economies there. 3183 02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:20,319 Bayfield County because of the lakes and 3184 02:17:20,319 --> 02:17:22,960 like double the county forest, they have 3185 02:17:22,960 --> 02:17:25,359 a very different budget than we do. 3186 02:17:25,359 --> 02:17:27,519 We're not going to get more lakes very 3187 02:17:27,519 --> 02:17:30,639 easily, but we can put in more parks. U 3188 02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:32,639 but then we have to invest in those. And 3189 02:17:32,639 --> 02:17:36,000 so one of the things I hope I get to um 3190 02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:39,760 on forestry is an inventory of all of 3191 02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:41,840 the parks and trails that we have in 3192 02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,240 Ashlin County regardless of which you 3193 02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:45,599 know entity they're with, you know, 3194 02:17:45,599 --> 02:17:47,760 city, village, you know, Copper Falls, 3195 02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:49,920 you name it. And then look at gaps and 3196 02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:53,200 opportunities there. So see what we can 3197 02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:56,399 fill in. And I'm also cognizant of, you 3198 02:17:56,399 --> 02:17:58,160 know, we have less snow on average as 3199 02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:00,719 time goes forward and more people are 3200 02:18:00,719 --> 02:18:03,359 using those UTVs versus snowmobiles. So, 3201 02:18:03,359 --> 02:18:07,280 how do we connect um recreational 3202 02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:10,319 opportunities using those trails to 3203 02:18:10,319 --> 02:18:12,479 places where people can stay, get food 3204 02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:16,000 and beverage, you know, etc. Um, I think 3205 02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:17,679 we'll find there's some gaps in there, 3206 02:18:17,679 --> 02:18:19,280 but it's going to take some investment 3207 02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:21,280 on the front end for the county to do 3208 02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:23,679 this. We'll have to have staff to do 3209 02:18:23,679 --> 02:18:25,840 some maintenance. We'll have to figure 3210 02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:27,599 out how to bring in some revenue to 3211 02:18:27,599 --> 02:18:31,599 that. But from the budget perspective, 3212 02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:33,519 if the county chose to make those 3213 02:18:33,519 --> 02:18:36,080 investments, we could make some 3214 02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:38,880 investments in that, which also means we 3215 02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:41,280 say no to some other things. But I think 3216 02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:44,479 we could invest and I think the data and 3217 02:18:44,479 --> 02:18:46,559 supports making more of those 3218 02:18:46,559 --> 02:18:48,559 investments. And I also want to let Mr. 3219 02:18:48,559 --> 02:18:50,800 Ortman over there who's our liaison with 3220 02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,120 the city on this committee know that 3221 02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:56,719 apparently our mayor is um at times a 3222 02:18:56,719 --> 02:18:58,160 little frustrated that some of the 3223 02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:01,200 people who stay in Ashland as tourists 3224 02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:03,599 don't spend in the city don't spend all 3225 02:19:03,599 --> 02:19:06,000 of their time within the city limits. 3226 02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:08,479 So, I told the the chamber director a 3227 02:19:08,479 --> 02:19:10,479 week or so ago in a forum conversation, 3228 02:19:10,479 --> 02:19:12,000 I said literally said, "Good, we're 3229 02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:14,399 making progress." Because the data on 3230 02:19:14,399 --> 02:19:16,080 credit card usage that I found a few 3231 02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:18,399 years ago shows that an incredible 3232 02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:20,000 number of the people who go to places 3233 02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:22,080 like Copper Falls up to Meline Island 3234 02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:23,679 and stuff, they're staying in the city 3235 02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:24,960 of Ashley because that's where most of 3236 02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:26,800 the rooms are. That's where a lot of the 3237 02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:29,200 food services. It also means that when 3238 02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:30,559 they've had a little too much in the 3239 02:19:30,559 --> 02:19:32,319 evening, our police department gets to 3240 02:19:32,319 --> 02:19:34,000 deal with them, you know, because that's 3241 02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:35,599 where they're staying. They're here. But 3242 02:19:35,599 --> 02:19:37,040 to the extent that we create more 3243 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,599 opportunities within the county, the 3244 02:19:39,599 --> 02:19:41,519 city of Ashlin benefits too because 3245 02:19:41,519 --> 02:19:44,080 you're getting the hotel tax and it's 3246 02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:46,880 hotel tax is limited to the city limits. 3247 02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:49,520 You know, if someone in Melon has, you 3248 02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:51,600 know, a place to stay, they don't charge 3249 02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:54,479 the hotel tax, but the city does. So, we 3250 02:19:54,479 --> 02:19:58,080 all benefit um by doing that. But I 3251 02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:00,399 think there is a lot of opportunity on 3252 02:20:00,399 --> 02:20:02,160 the things that George is pointing out 3253 02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:04,319 here. And one of which is the Maxwell 3254 02:20:04,319 --> 02:20:07,520 property um on 118 that Northland 3255 02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:11,200 College currently owns. And I think it 3256 02:20:11,200 --> 02:20:12,880 would make sense for the county to take 3257 02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:15,359 a hard look at acquiring that property 3258 02:20:15,359 --> 02:20:18,560 and making it a a park and a campground 3259 02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:20,640 and the recreational opportunities that 3260 02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:25,359 could go with it. Um, so I think this is 3261 02:20:25,359 --> 02:20:27,120 a really important point for us to think 3262 02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:29,840 about of what we can do going forward 3263 02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:34,080 that we haven't been doing otherwise. 3264 02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:37,040 >> Other comment, discussion 3265 02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:39,120 >> and I just want to say kudos to the 3266 02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:41,280 village of Butternut for building a new 3267 02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:45,429 campground. 3268 02:20:45,439 --> 02:20:48,960 I I want to add um 3269 02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:50,800 that 3270 02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:53,600 I think the the report that Lisa 3271 02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:55,840 mentioned about why people are moving 3272 02:20:55,840 --> 02:20:57,680 here because it gives us a lot of 3273 02:20:57,680 --> 02:20:59,520 insight because I think probably it 3274 02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:01,600 shows us that people are moving here for 3275 02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:04,800 what they deem as good quality of life. 3276 02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:07,760 And so whatever we can do to help make 3277 02:21:07,760 --> 02:21:10,240 this a more attractive place in terms of 3278 02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:11,840 quality of life for people who would 3279 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:16,640 move here and stay here will add to the 3280 02:21:16,640 --> 02:21:18,160 betterment of the county for all of us 3281 02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:21,680 who live here. So 3282 02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:24,240 that's what we're thinking about. Um 3283 02:21:24,240 --> 02:21:26,479 we're up to item number 10 was is round 3284 02:21:26,479 --> 02:21:30,160 the room summary comments. So uh I'm 3285 02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:33,120 going to start with you Pat. Last 3286 02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:36,000 comments. 3287 02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:54,950 Boy, we got a lot of work ahead of us. 3288 02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:56,720 » No, I'll keep it short. We just do have 3289 02:21:56,720 --> 02:22:00,319 a lot of work ahead of us. Okay, Lisa, 3290 02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:02,800 >> I just want to say thanks to Emily and 3291 02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:06,000 Autumn for being here and welcome to our 3292 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:08,720 process and I really look forward to all 3293 02:22:08,720 --> 02:22:11,040 the expertise you all are going to bring 3294 02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:12,960 help us with all these processes and 3295 02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:15,280 questions. 3296 02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:18,479 >> You're here, Gary. 3297 02:22:18,479 --> 02:22:21,280 >> Paul, 3298 02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:22,880 I thought everyone was just being 3299 02:22:22,880 --> 02:22:25,120 cynical about a three-hour meeting down 3300 02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:29,349 to two and a half. 3301 02:22:29,359 --> 02:22:31,680 We're we're down to two hours and 23 3302 02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:34,319 minutes. So, we're almost there. Erica, 3303 02:22:34,319 --> 02:22:38,630 >> nothing today. 3304 02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:41,120 » Autumn and Enley, any 3305 02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:42,560 >> just want to say thank you for working 3306 02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:45,439 with us. We look forward to it. 3307 02:22:45,439 --> 02:22:46,960 >> Okay. Last thing is to think about our 3308 02:22:46,960 --> 02:22:49,200 next meeting in September. uh 3309 02:22:49,200 --> 02:22:53,910 suggestions and limitations, 3310 02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:55,680 conflicts, 3311 02:22:55,680 --> 02:22:59,200 not 911. Okay. I will will send out a a 3312 02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:01,600 doodle poll to see what works for 3313 02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:03,840 people. Okay. Not include you. All 3314 02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:08,000 right. Is there a motion to adjourn? 3315 02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:08,960 Charlie, 3316 02:23:08,960 --> 02:23:12,720 >> I'd like to um publicly 3317 02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:15,439 um put our thoughts and prayers together 3318 02:23:15,439 --> 02:23:18,800 for Minneapolis as they deal with this 3319 02:23:18,800 --> 02:23:20,399 unimaginable 3320 02:23:20,399 --> 02:23:23,760 tragedy with that school shooting. 3321 02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:24,160 >> Okay. 3322 02:23:24,160 --> 02:23:26,560 >> I just want to put that on record. 3323 02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:29,040 >> Thank you, Liz. 3324 02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:32,870 You have a second forjournment. 3325 02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:33,359 » Second. 3326 02:23:33,359 --> 02:23:37,920 >> Pass second. All in favor say I. I 3327 02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:40,880 >> we are ajourned. Thank