1 00:02:07,090 --> 00:02:36,250 Good evening, everyone. Today is Thursday, August 27th. The meeting is being recorded on broadcast live by Wacca TV. And live streamed on Facebook, remote participation is available. Using the Zoom video, confidence and platform, any disruptions with our video, confidence and platform will result in the platform being shot down, meetings will continue to be broadcast on Wacca TV and live streamed on Facebook. Right. First point of order, we have, um, 2 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:41,710 chair and clerk's report. I have nothing to report out. 3 00:02:45,650 --> 00:02:53,710 Okay, then we, um, we have any public comment that we should address before we start on the top. 4 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:54,550 What's the name? 5 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:56,130 Who is? 6 00:02:56,310 --> 00:02:56,670 An eraser. 7 00:02:57,150 --> 00:02:57,590 Okay. 8 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:58,910 Go ahead, Anna. 9 00:03:02,740 --> 00:03:06,580 Hey, Paul. I'm just making sure you're aware that I'm sick and attending remotely. 10 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:08,700 Yeah. 11 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Just for attendance purposes. Thank you. 12 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:11,920 Thank you. 13 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:13,000 Okay, 14 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:20,780 since we have very few people in the audience today, and nobody's speaking up online. 15 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:25,600 I guess we'll jump into the first order of the public hearings. 16 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,400 I can read this one. 17 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,320 We'll read it again. 18 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:30,600 We'll read it again. 19 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,460 We'll read it again. 20 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:31,820 Gotcha. 21 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:33,660 Okay, so first topic. 22 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:39,200 Tonight is our 167169 Pleasant Street Site Plan Review. 23 00:03:48,260 --> 00:03:55,400 Well, everybody, Jim McDonald on the owner of 167, 169 in Fuzz and Street, just here. 24 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:56,820 I think there's some follow-up questions. 25 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:04,420 I submitted a kind of updated rendering that shows the farmers' forces that were asked for by the neighbors, 26 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:08,980 and proved by the ZBA and my meetings with them. 27 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:18,000 So that seemed that from the follow-up that you want to see some newer renderings of the front. 28 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,460 So, and I did a very true, I couldn't get a new red ring showing the connection of the dryways 29 00:04:23,460 --> 00:04:29,840 with the two, but I did a crude rendition of it so that you can see how they tie our ties in, 30 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,440 colored on the smaller 8 by 11 is, has that the overview, has the kind of how the dry 31 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,720 it will be to curb cuts and how that would tie in. 32 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,580 So, and I'm just here to answer any of the follow-up questions. 33 00:04:49,370 --> 00:04:55,970 This refreshments, this is already gone through the VA as a non-confirming one. 34 00:04:56,590 --> 00:05:06,650 And the only thing we're dealing with is the six parking spaces to the extra curb cut, go through. 35 00:05:07,310 --> 00:05:13,310 That was one of the things the ZBA asks for to reduce it down to two from three. 36 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:19,970 So my original plan that I brought to them had three, so we connected to serve two purposes 37 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:29,830 to limit the curb cuts and to allow that 167B to be able to back out and turn around 38 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:35,810 in the main drive way so that they can pull up forward, so that was kind of the reasons 39 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:41,510 that the ZBA gave concerns about, so that's, so the rent this rendering is how to date. 40 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:47,730 That reminder is out of date. I couldn't get them to do a new one, but there's an 8x11 that you have there that shows 41 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:51,770 crudely by hand, I drew in how it's kind of way out. 42 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,060 Yep, exactly. 43 00:05:58,020 --> 00:06:03,340 Oh, I don't. Sure. I just went for one and each. Thank you. 44 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,220 I just probably just lost in my pile. 45 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,520 So, not perfect, but it did an idea. 46 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Yeah. 47 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:18,300 Yeah, so I think this, oh, I'll show that you go ahead. No, sorry, it's heavy. 48 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:21,580 So, this is going to be the new correct. 49 00:06:22,540 --> 00:06:23,260 This is your practice. 50 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:23,920 Yeah. 51 00:06:27,570 --> 00:06:31,530 All that is on the site plan that I submitted before it shows all that, but this is just a little 52 00:06:31,530 --> 00:06:33,570 more colorful easier to kind of visualize. 53 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:45,860 I was going to say that I went over, I drove over to the site and just took a look at things. 54 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:51,460 The back building is the one that's being kind of renovated, which looks like it's a job 55 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:54,040 even though you're keeping it. 56 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,960 And the front building is being taken down and rebuilt. 57 00:06:59,100 --> 00:06:59,540 Yep. 58 00:07:00,580 --> 00:07:02,100 It looks like a good call. 59 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:03,280 Yeah, yeah. 60 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:05,620 We try to keep the look of the house the same. 61 00:07:05,780 --> 00:07:07,280 And it kind of has similar roof lines. 62 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:12,300 And we added the portrait just because we're out quite a few on that road. 63 00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:14,620 And the board thought it was a good idea. 64 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:16,240 The neighbors kind of preferred it. 65 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,960 So just keeping keeping. 66 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,500 So that's why we added the promise. 67 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:22,920 And as soon as part of the renovation, all the sites all being cleaned up. 68 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,460 completely cleaned up. We're just wrapping up with conservation, but we're going to hand 69 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:29,400 remove everything from the yoke. 70 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:45,200 We're going to go in there until we kind of go to approvals to do the rules of control. So we're going to do some evasive mitigation, some evasive species and some replanting and some restoration of a little area of that. 71 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Kind of kind of all be part of that N.O.I. with them. 72 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:56,740 All my work for the most part except for that clean out and evasive repair is all outside the hundred foot zone, but inside the 200 foot zone. 73 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Yeah, and then after you, just as an explanation and shared Jasmine, I still did, and after you had left, I watched it as well. 74 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Okay, yeah, there was just like, wait a minute, no one seemed to have an issue with this project, but there's just a process according to the by-laws that we have to go through. 75 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:34,260 And we kind of skipped out a little bit, so that was a little bit of the, hey, let's make sure we see everything, make sure we kind of check the boxes, yeah, so that, so that it can just go, you know, go ahead. 76 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:46,040 I mean, obviously, like I said before, I think, and especially now seeing the site, I think it's very nice to potentially replace what's there with an equal number but a very nice 77 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:55,360 place to live. So I think that's great. It's a civil. Yeah. Yeah. So, when do you think of 78 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:02,500 you to start it? Soon as possible. So I'll go back the 14th is my final meeting with 79 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:07,120 conservation. I'm pretty sure we're just finishing the stormwater and a few 80 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,940 questions that they had of the last meeting. So I'm hoping that's the last thing. 81 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,960 We're pretty much have our construction loan in place and so we're ready to go. 82 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:28,680 I'll have to submit the permit application again, but my hope is, like I'm worried, but you know, maybe end this up time, but we'll start as soon as soon as I get a permit. 83 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:34,520 You have a vote again. 84 00:09:34,860 --> 00:09:36,140 You have to have a vote. 85 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,580 You have a draft decision to review as well. 86 00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:44,650 So we're going to need to open that for public comment, kind of officially. 87 00:09:45,470 --> 00:09:47,890 Don't think we're going to see a lot of public comment. 88 00:09:47,890 --> 00:09:51,710 I'm just going to pop a comment and I don't really want to go to the next page. 89 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:54,070 No, I do it tonight. Can you take the closer to me? 90 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,540 Just the process for me. 91 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:58,280 Would you just say it to a public comment? 92 00:10:00,540 --> 00:10:06,440 Okay, is there any public comment to the 167 169 plus in the street? 93 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:13,660 No. 94 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:14,420 No. 95 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:15,580 What are you going to raise tonight? 96 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:16,520 Okay. 97 00:10:21,380 --> 00:10:24,400 Did you want to review the draft decision and then you can vote? 98 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Yes, about we usually do. 99 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,840 What we usually do, Paul, is we can, we have to, we'll have to close the public hearing 100 00:10:38,380 --> 00:10:43,640 before we vote, all right, so first we close that, but typically we like to just leave 101 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,060 it open as long as possible and case someone has a last minute question or comment that 102 00:10:48,060 --> 00:10:48,660 we'd like to hear. 103 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,060 So we generally our habit is to kind of just leave it open, we get all our discussion out, 104 00:10:54,460 --> 00:10:59,820 then we, then we close the public comment and then by that time we're basically ready to vote. 105 00:10:59,820 --> 00:11:03,440 though we could pause it at that time and have more discussion if we wanted to. 106 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,120 The purpose for that is because you can't accept any new information once you've closed the public hearing. 107 00:11:09,620 --> 00:11:11,880 You can close the hearing and the board may deliberate. 108 00:11:12,540 --> 00:11:16,420 But if you had a applicant had a comment, he wouldn't be able to make even a correction. 109 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:21,160 You had already closed the hearing, which is why that's the general practice. 110 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:22,260 How'd you? 111 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:24,080 All right, what else can I also recommend? 112 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,720 Yeah, if you'd like to go to, I think if you'd be helpful to go through the decision while it's open. 113 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:34,040 if you don't have any comments, then you just took a close and then you took a close to. 114 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,320 So let's go to the, you know, try to the decision. 115 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,000 This is what's going to start to down. 116 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:55,580 Jen here. 117 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,480 How are we doing this? 118 00:11:57,980 --> 00:11:58,280 Yeah. 119 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,260 But I won't be, so let's, let's do it. 120 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:03,460 But it's not like, this is not like the last time. 121 00:12:04,540 --> 00:12:05,300 Oh, yeah. 122 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:05,740 Yeah. 123 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:06,720 She can't ever see. 124 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:10,620 If you have a comment, please feel free to that. 125 00:12:13,790 --> 00:12:14,390 All right. 126 00:12:14,390 --> 00:12:18,730 As we go through, I just have some more things to add. 127 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:23,490 Does it maybe mind if your sister starts? 128 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:23,710 Yeah. 129 00:12:24,570 --> 00:12:27,250 I have nothing on page 1. 130 00:12:29,370 --> 00:12:31,010 On page 2 for the finding. 131 00:12:32,690 --> 00:12:37,410 We talked about wetlands, and I just thought we could add a line at the end of the 132 00:12:37,410 --> 00:12:38,690 as the site is flat. 133 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:39,430 Number one. 134 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:40,630 Yes, number one. 135 00:12:40,670 --> 00:12:42,830 This whole thing with steep slopes and hilltops, 136 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:44,990 like, they're not applicable. 137 00:12:53,450 --> 00:12:56,830 And then on four talks about to minimize 138 00:12:57,450 --> 00:12:59,290 tree vegetation and soil removal. 139 00:12:59,510 --> 00:13:01,030 And the comment here's about soil. 140 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:04,150 We never talked about the trees that are there. 141 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:05,830 I think the trees are mostly in fact. 142 00:13:05,890 --> 00:13:06,790 There's a couple. 143 00:13:07,710 --> 00:13:10,290 I'm gonna say scrappy kind of trees around the house 144 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:12,450 that look to me like that we completely in the way. 145 00:13:12,570 --> 00:13:14,530 They can't get the house out without taking them. 146 00:13:15,850 --> 00:13:27,730 Yeah, so, but so I guess I would add minimizes the removal, I don't think you're removing any soil at all, right? 147 00:13:28,010 --> 00:13:28,670 I mean, 148 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,340 oh yes, please, so they're recording for you. 149 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:38,740 Thank you. 150 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:52,320 So the only other additional excavation is really the two single-cocker edges, and then probably some prep on the driveway, but nothing that I don't even think will take anything out of there, or there will be any storage of soil. 151 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,220 we have a small area or a soil storage, but it's pretty minimal. 152 00:13:57,740 --> 00:14:02,820 Yes, so then I would just, we could just add minimizes the removal of soil and trees. 153 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,660 So we just add that ends that we've addressed it. 154 00:14:06,820 --> 00:14:09,520 Do I think I'm meeting with the neighbor to the right? 155 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,320 There's a few pine trees and maybe one maple. 156 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,680 And we've had limbs come down. 157 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,340 There are a few that are not doing very well. 158 00:14:20,340 --> 00:14:24,000 So we're going to meet and kind of go over that, and I'm just going to bring it up at the 159 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,920 September 14th. 160 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,800 But we're not going to do anything inside the 100 points, or everything in the back 161 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,520 space, the same except for hand, we're going to do it all basically by hand, every move 162 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:38,720 will send the evasive removal, so that's kind of all we're going to be controlled by them. 163 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,160 But I think there are a few trees on the right hand side of the property that are the neighbors 164 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,400 worried about them falling on. 165 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,000 It's property. 166 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Yeah, and then there's obviously a plan to plant some things. 167 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Yeah, we're going to do three. 168 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:59,940 I kind of went over the species of street trees as common. 169 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,100 So, I kind of went through that with the conservation as well, and in ZBA. 170 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,500 Yeah, I'm just going through our criteria to make sure we've. 171 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:18,600 So yeah, so I just put removal of soil and trees. 172 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,540 I didn't have anything else on page two. 173 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,660 Then on page three, on number 11, 174 00:15:37,330 --> 00:15:40,090 typically, when we have a number 11, we have it for up. 175 00:15:40,810 --> 00:15:44,890 We usually have a larger project, which has a third-party review. 176 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:50,250 So we know we're within the zoning, that's all that's, it's in front of us. 177 00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:53,170 And we know that's been checked by our third party. 178 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:57,330 In this case, we don't have that. 179 00:15:57,330 --> 00:15:58,630 That's been outside of our board. 180 00:16:00,090 --> 00:16:05,510 So I think it might be better to read the planning board, 181 00:16:06,350 --> 00:16:09,950 assumes that the submitted plans are record, blah, blah, blah. 182 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:13,170 At the end, add as reviewed by the building commissioner. 183 00:16:14,290 --> 00:16:17,230 This is the one that's going to be issuing the building permit. 184 00:16:18,510 --> 00:16:18,950 But 185 00:16:21,540 --> 00:16:29,820 yeah, so everything else, all the setbacks, the zoning requirements, none of that is actually in a way, none of that is before our board. 186 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,760 But has been dealt with by the zoning board of peels and by the building commissioner. 187 00:16:38,830 --> 00:16:44,910 It's kind of, otherwise it kind of says that that's something we reviewed or have our third party reviewer and we didn't. 188 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:49,230 Does that have to be in there with the zoning board has to be in number 11, just building commissioners? 189 00:16:52,050 --> 00:16:59,050 He's the one that issues the building permit and he would have to do that, looking at the zoning board of appeals decision. 190 00:17:02,450 --> 00:17:08,650 He's going to follow up with the CBSS, but he won't issue the permit unless the drawings show that that was fulfilled. 191 00:17:08,650 --> 00:17:09,630 And 192 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,660 also at the poricite plant. 193 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,640 What's that? 194 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:24,380 For actual site plant, because these poricite plant is still turning in a flat, the drier in the 195 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:24,820 end. 196 00:17:26,820 --> 00:17:31,400 It does seem certain extend, but it doesn't seem because you look for one. 197 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:37,180 Okay, you always get a site plant, so the site plant, I assume this is the current site 198 00:17:37,180 --> 00:17:37,560 plant. 199 00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:54,400 So like the rendering is just kind of for a visual, but for the building department, he's going to want a site plan that shows what you're going to build and how the parking lays out and the storm on a management chamber is all that. 200 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,900 But this does not currently match what you're proposing, right? 201 00:17:58,460 --> 00:17:59,840 The site plan that I have does. 202 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,940 This one. 203 00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:05,520 You may have already made it. 204 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,620 The drivers don't look exactly the same 205 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:14,560 until I'm not reading this correctly. 206 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,020 My drawing might be slightly different, but the site plan that I studied. 207 00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:19,360 I know the water color. 208 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,540 My site plan does show the two purpose. 209 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:29,460 I don't know if you have an old home, but it does show the connection of the two drivers. 210 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,560 It might be a photo so different scale-wise, but it's pretty close. 211 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:41,620 So it's pretty much the final that was kind of a prove by ZBA and that I'm bringing forward 212 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:47,120 a conservation because the changes we made we had to make some impervious adjustments for 213 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:47,600 the turnaround. 214 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,960 We had the turnaround of the back as gravel because it's inside the 100 foot buffer, but we made 215 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,080 the modifications of impervious that we had to bring the front. 216 00:18:57,340 --> 00:18:59,560 So we're pretty much going to follow that side. 217 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:06,700 I think it's just that like the the color range shading is not the right. Yeah, that kind of shows you right at the property line 218 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:10,720 Well, this one is more generous. Yeah, it's pulled away from the property line. 219 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,560 It's going to be within a photo sort of that. 220 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,560 I widened that color rendering out a little bit. 221 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,560 So it's slightly, it's slightly different, but I did as close as I could. 222 00:19:34,110 --> 00:19:38,570 So then, since all really for that, 223 00:19:40,790 --> 00:19:43,650 oh, one thing about the criteria, didn't we have something 224 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:54,310 for middle sex bank, which also came to us, I think, because of the parking, and didn't 225 00:19:54,310 --> 00:20:01,050 we have something in there about the design review process that we had looked at the criteria. 226 00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:04,890 But wasn't there something we added in there? 227 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:06,670 Does it ring the bell, then, anybody? 228 00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:10,250 Because typically, this would go design, design, 229 00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:12,710 plan, or, you know, so it's a nice thing to look for. 230 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:14,670 It's six parking spaces. 231 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:20,860 So that's why it's, and that's why it's in front of us. 232 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,540 So I thought, it was something very recent. 233 00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:29,340 I started thinking it was middle sex, 234 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640 that all 235 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,500 Um, design plan review. 236 00:21:00,020 --> 00:21:02,480 I know you like all the criteria in that decision. 237 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:03,760 What's that? 238 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,280 You listed out all the criteria in that decision. 239 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:09,680 There was it like a... 240 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,280 That was in a special plan. 241 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:19,380 Then it all sucks because that was a site plan. 242 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:19,720 What? 243 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,640 That was a site plan. 244 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,300 A site plan? 245 00:21:23,380 --> 00:21:26,740 I thought there was something at the end of the criteria about 246 00:21:26,740 --> 00:21:30,340 We're something in there about design reveal. 247 00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:32,780 Because we went through those. 248 00:21:34,140 --> 00:21:35,180 That's right. 249 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:38,360 What else it would have been that we did recently. 250 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,320 We would have been something really recent. 251 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,360 This one on the 12 comprehensive plan. 252 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,820 We really haven't compared this to comprehensive plan. 253 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,260 So should we change that wording a little bit. 254 00:22:05,260 --> 00:22:12,660 I'm not sure saying it is consistent with until there is some angle that I'm missing. 255 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,960 Why would we say it is consistent with the comprehensive flow 256 00:22:18,590 --> 00:22:19,690 until I'm missing something? 257 00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:26,430 No, sure we haven't looked at it, I mean I can ask Anna if she is on mine, it seemed, I know a lot. 258 00:22:26,450 --> 00:22:29,970 I don't think that any improvement of this kind would be against the comprehensive. 259 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:48,880 There's nothing about this that would be opposed your comprehensive plan and that is a criteria here. So if you want to make a standard that if you haven't looked at it, but I wouldn't want to put a project like this to comprehensive plan or view that's very intensive. 260 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:54,380 Should we have it a little more broad than, of course, is space specifically saying that is consistent with 261 00:22:56,060 --> 00:22:57,880 comprehensive plan then 262 00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:08,720 Because when you say that we just make it we could make it slightly more ambiguous like the planning board finds that the project is consistent with the spirit of 263 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Ashland's new comprehensive plan 264 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:18,600 Or with the intent of Ashland's new comprehensive. Yeah, which I know talks about just the closing 265 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:35,050 And then I was just wondering, so then we go, 266 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:37,590 800 general conditions, ABC. 267 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:40,010 I was wondering, do we need D&E? 268 00:23:41,710 --> 00:23:43,030 I think those are, 269 00:23:45,620 --> 00:23:49,020 those are for flat top, flat roof. 270 00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:53,720 Well, D is about, kind of about rooftop equipment, 271 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,400 you know, for flat roof buildings, signs. 272 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,880 There's no, it's not applicable. 273 00:23:59,060 --> 00:23:59,840 It's not applicable. 274 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,840 Yeah, so we can talk about on 275 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,620 letter G, I was just gonna take out the comma after issued 276 00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:22,580 because otherwise it doesn't read properly. 277 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,980 And I was just also gonna suggest that there's to take out a, if we can take out a lot of extra 278 00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:32,500 blank lines here and there. 279 00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:38,960 I'm just asking me about Gs, that after I've issued, G on page 4. 280 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,360 I'm under construction procedures page four. 281 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:45,920 Oh, you know, you need my slide. 282 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,520 Yeah, you took out two letters. 283 00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:49,160 It's under email. 284 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Yeah, it's under email. 285 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:51,340 Oh, I'm so sorry. 286 00:24:51,580 --> 00:24:52,660 Yeah, we've got two letters. 287 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:54,920 So it's like, how am I after issued? 288 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:55,900 I don't think we need. 289 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Thank you. 290 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:00,780 Yeah, and then I was just going to say there's just, 291 00:25:00,780 --> 00:25:04,720 there's a lot of extra spaces in that would clear that up. 292 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,560 Maybe we'll say the piece of paper. 293 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,740 Maybe not, but that's all I have. 294 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Anybody else? 295 00:25:25,650 --> 00:25:26,470 I'm good with the rest. 296 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,300 I think I've got four. 297 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,060 I think I've got four. 298 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:33,200 There's the public here. 299 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:34,900 All right. 300 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:37,040 Did I have one more thing to ask if possible? 301 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,940 It just hasn't been talking to me about fees for this. 302 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:43,840 And because it's a small project, 303 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,660 she said maybe I should ask to see if I can get a waiver of fees. 304 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,180 I don't know what fees are we. 305 00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:56,740 This is the playing board application case. 306 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,120 You can't wait the butter fee or the public hearing notice fee, 307 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720 but you can wait our particular application fee, 308 00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:07,180 so the state plan application fee is what you can wait. 309 00:26:07,420 --> 00:26:09,580 And what is that amount, too? 310 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,440 Again, sir. 311 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:17,020 You may. 312 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,640 It's 125, I'm pretty sure, per space. 313 00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:25,680 And then a separate $2,500 fee for that, I'm not exactly sure what, 314 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,660 but just a separate blank kind of. 315 00:26:27,660 --> 00:26:30,760 That's for the special permit and not the building permit, because we can't 316 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,820 wave building permit fee. 317 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,400 No, it's just a fee to the cleaning board for this application. 318 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:41,000 There was one first base, and then one separate one which hasn't been, they kind of got left 319 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,600 to the side. 320 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,900 It hasn't been. 321 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,340 So let's get it. 322 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 It's got a $2,000 fee. 323 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:52,460 It was $2,000. 324 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,180 Yeah, I think it was $8,000, $1,025,500. 325 00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:00,760 I think it was $15, I guess we only paid plus $6, 326 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,120 because two were inside, so it was $1,500 plus $2,500. 327 00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:12,830 Where's the money go? 328 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:16,450 It goes into a general fund account. 329 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:20,790 It doesn't go directly to the department or anything like that. 330 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,700 Well, I get it, I mean, it's like, is it budgeted for something? 331 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,240 That goes into the general fund. 332 00:27:27,460 --> 00:27:28,280 Yeah, that's the general fund. 333 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,620 Yeah, the town's general fund. 334 00:27:29,780 --> 00:27:31,220 Yeah, it doesn't go into the department fund. 335 00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:34,620 It gets the same way with building permit fees and everything else 336 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,780 the town collects, goes into the general fund. 337 00:27:39,060 --> 00:27:43,280 So is the 2,500 consistent across no matter how big the project is? 338 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,800 I can see the progress base. 339 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,840 I can see probably dependent on the number of units that you're putting in. 340 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,180 There would be a base fee in the additional fees based on other things, like the number 341 00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:56,060 of units, things like that, can you just sort of upload your fees? 342 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:05,080 I don't ever remember that request coming up before, do you? 343 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,640 Deepa. 344 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,460 So I'm not really familiar with all the fees for work in this case. 345 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,940 I'm not sure if that's $2,500, but I'm pretty sure it's a flat fee for any project. 346 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:36,610 I've been in front of boards for a long time, 347 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:41,490 but it was something this modern, I've seen that amount of these. 348 00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:43,810 That's based on square footage, so. 349 00:28:43,810 --> 00:28:43,890 Oh. 350 00:28:44,170 --> 00:28:54,170 $22,000 to $5,000 square fee is $10,000,000 plus $2,000 plus $3,500. 351 00:28:54,170 --> 00:29:02,870 greater than 10,000 square feet is 2,025 plus 15 cents per square foot of gross floor area plus $6,000. 352 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,180 So, and this is fitting into the smallest category. 353 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:17,140 The smallest is 0 to 2,775. I started with, in range of 2,000 to 5,025,025. 354 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:18,800 This is all on this. 355 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:20,400 So, they're all ready. 356 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,600 What is it? 357 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,260 So, were you reading the industrial commercial square food? 358 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:26,900 It's feasible. 359 00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:27,960 We can have the residential. 360 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:28,560 Oh, I'm sorry. 361 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:30,240 Those are industrial square food. 362 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,860 No, those are. 363 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,960 They should eat the same piece. 364 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,800 No, those are industrial commercial. 365 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Sorry. 366 00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:43,240 The residential is 25 plus 250 per residential units. 367 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:43,560 I'm sorry. 368 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,180 But isn't it the 2500? 369 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,280 Isn't that a peer review deposit of? 370 00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:50,640 20? 371 00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:53,180 If there is no peer review. 372 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Then you don't need that. 373 00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:55,320 And doesn't get it? 374 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:56,520 We don't keep it. 375 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,160 Even if he did pay it, he would get it back. 376 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,980 It's a good kind of put that. 377 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,100 The side for some reason, they left that as I don't think it ever is a real cashier sort of way. 378 00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:06,520 It's just the end. 379 00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:10,340 So it sounds like you're getting that $2,500 back. 380 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:14,940 Okay, so we don't have to wave that one because you're going to get it. 381 00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:18,340 So you're basically just looking to wave the, 382 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,980 so it's not for parking spot, right? 383 00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:29,620 It's $25 plus $250 for residential unit, so there's $4 units would be $1,000, right? 384 00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:48,420 It seems to me that, because you're not doing the peer review, you should get in that $2,500 back, and the other one is based on the size of the units, so it's probably compare and consistent across anybody who comes to us, whether it's two units or eight or twelve or whatever. 385 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:54,380 Although I guess they don't fall under residential, they fall under. So up to five, I guess, would be residential. 386 00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:58,180 So, yeah, I'm fine with that. 387 00:30:58,460 --> 00:31:00,780 You okay with just doing the 1025? 388 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,580 Yeah, I was not aware of the 25, 389 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,680 but still be applicable for some reason. 390 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,640 It sounds like you're getting it back. 391 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,300 That's a little peer review. 392 00:31:13,860 --> 00:31:15,020 Thank you. 393 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Should we close this conversation in the note? 394 00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:20,380 What is this? 395 00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:21,800 This steps? 396 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:44,260 The motion to close the plane review for 167-169 in position 3. 397 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,080 2nd. 398 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,400 double. 399 00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:52,060 British condolent. 400 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Deeply mingled die. 401 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,460 And it's just me. 402 00:31:55,540 --> 00:31:56,140 It's got peltura. 403 00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:57,800 I'm not the same all night. 404 00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:03,950 You know, you need a ocean to 405 00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:06,310 prove you. 406 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:10,870 Yeah, unless unless there's any other comments, 407 00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:14,310 the board has like the board can still discuss. 408 00:32:15,910 --> 00:32:16,730 But like I said, 409 00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:18,610 they we have all our discussion done. 410 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:20,330 But someone could still have a comment. 411 00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:21,610 The carpet a lot. 412 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:22,610 Just the last few minutes. 413 00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:24,610 But I have nothing else to add. 414 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:26,010 I'm good. 415 00:32:26,610 --> 00:32:27,330 Anybody want to? 416 00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:29,330 Do you want to check with Anna? 417 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:31,350 Anna, do you have any follow-up questions? 418 00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:38,950 Maybe she stepped away. 419 00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:41,670 No, I'm right here. 420 00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:42,650 Oh, okay. 421 00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:46,850 Didn't know if you had any other follow-up questions or comments. 422 00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:59,050 I moved to approve the site plan review decision with the changes that we discussed. 423 00:33:00,430 --> 00:33:00,750 Second. 424 00:33:01,550 --> 00:33:02,650 We'll call him up. 425 00:33:02,790 --> 00:33:04,010 Keep out when you get dead. 426 00:33:04,450 --> 00:33:05,070 Just hand it off. 427 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:06,130 Sorry. 428 00:33:06,670 --> 00:33:07,770 Go in. 429 00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:08,810 No. 430 00:33:10,270 --> 00:33:10,370 Yeah. 431 00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:10,990 And it's gonna skip out. 432 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:12,170 And it's gonna skip out. 433 00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:15,950 All the same. 434 00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:17,230 All right. 435 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:17,530 Okay. 436 00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:18,790 Thanks very much. 437 00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:19,970 It's very confusing. 438 00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:23,580 All right. 439 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,690 So now I think. 440 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:28,800 Thank you. 441 00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:36,110 Thank you. 442 00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:37,770 It must have felt like 10, but it was 95. 443 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,600 I don't know. 444 00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:43,680 I don't know. 445 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:45,280 But I wasn't sure. 446 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:48,580 All right. 447 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,740 So moving on to the next topic for the night is the data centers zoning. 448 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:01,040 It has been thank you for the follow-up today. 449 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,600 And I know we can, anybody talk about this? 450 00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:21,240 So I know we've been talking, and I was one that was kind of pushing more on the moratorium, 451 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:22,940 because I wanted there to be an end date, 452 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:26,080 or at least something to kind of trigger or revisit of this. 453 00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:30,220 But based on the advice that was given to us by Tom Council 454 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:33,920 and the fact that I don't like, you know, 455 00:34:33,980 --> 00:34:36,740 my thought of my head was maybe they'll become better, 456 00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:39,560 but in reality I don't think that's really going to happen. 457 00:34:40,420 --> 00:34:43,160 So rather, I think we just kind of switched to 458 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:49,100 move it to the no use plan, that way it's just easier and cleaner. 459 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:57,100 And then if somebody really wants to bring it up five years or ten years down the road, then they can do that. 460 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,360 It just won't be a trigger for us to force it. 461 00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:04,430 Those are my thoughts. 462 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:12,310 Is this summary about a moratorium or is this the no use that we found there? 463 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:15,790 That would be if you wanted to put a moratorium in place, that's the draft language. 464 00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:16,290 Yes, it is. 465 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,240 But that's not talked about as a no use. 466 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,940 that would just be updating the use table where you'd literally just add that definition 467 00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:33,400 of to add that specific definition of data center unless it gives a different one 468 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,360 as slightly amended and you would just have it data center in the use table now across all 469 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:39,660 zones. 470 00:35:40,020 --> 00:35:41,640 Because there's no line currently. 471 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,360 There's just 2,000 say anything about data center. 472 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,880 Thank you. 473 00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:49,340 Any thoughts? 474 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:50,920 I'm going to see what else got. 475 00:35:52,520 --> 00:36:02,460 Yeah, I'm four, one of the paths, but I'm not, I think they would both work. 476 00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:07,440 Two years does come around pretty quick. It seems like to me. 477 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,340 So it might be best just to have it in our bylaws that it's a no until we decide otherwise. 478 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,300 So, Jasmine, did you say that was the path recommended by Lisa? 479 00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:30,260 It was, she said, because of the risk of putting, having a moratorium in place gives the intent that gives the impression that the intent is that it's allowed. 480 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,940 And right now is zoning bylaws, staying if it's not allowed, and you're zoning bylaws, it's not allowed. 481 00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:39,540 But putting in the moratorium gives the impression that it is, does that make any sense? 482 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,820 So that would make it the legal pathway if the moratorium expired, and somebody maybe they didn't notice. 483 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,600 Anybody could come in and even though it's not in the zoning by-law, they would say, well, it's obviously an allowed user, you wouldn't have put it more at all in on it. 484 00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:53,860 Hmm, okay. 485 00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:57,680 I just opened up to stream risks with where your timelines. 486 00:36:58,780 --> 00:37:05,080 So what would be a half, if we did want to follow the other course, it would still... 487 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,300 We would have to hold a public hearing still the same way, so we would post it before a time meeting. 488 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,960 Hopefully in October, because the zoning board of appeals actually has something they're going to present to you, 489 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:18,840 based on state law with the zoning changes that have to be 490 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,240 made with variances. So we have to update our zoning by-laws on that. They're 491 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,080 having a meeting on that September 8th and then they're going to send the 492 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,740 letter of recommendation to the planning board to ask you to have a hearing 493 00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:29,980 for the... 494 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:45,060 So we'd be helpful if we could hold this on that same day in October. So same thing, we just post it in the public newspaper, hold a public hearing, give the public opportunity to speak, and then we vote on it, and we put it to time meeting, and fall time meeting. 495 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,040 Which is November 10th this year, in case anybody who's wondering? 496 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,260 It's enough time to go from the east of October to the 497 00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:55,690 east. 498 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:57,370 So ZBA has a meeting in September? 499 00:37:58,190 --> 00:38:02,930 Yes, for the zoning updates, nothing to do with this. 500 00:38:04,030 --> 00:38:10,610 But there are state, the changes to the state legislation that require us to update our zoning. 501 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,480 Okay. 502 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,260 I don't know, that is an envelope in the meeting. 503 00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:23,660 It's just that variance is used to be based on shape-size or typography of a lot. 504 00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:27,540 you had to prove you had a hardship based on one of those three criteria and now they're 505 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:35,860 just saying if it would like complicate the project essentially it's not based on 506 00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:41,180 shape size or typography anymore it's just if enforcement of the zoning would hinder your 507 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:46,020 project so all the case law that exists now gets thrown out the window and it's not 508 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:49,100 I have a lot more because the law has changed. 509 00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:52,700 So they made it when they introduced you. 510 00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:53,900 They made it much more. 511 00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:59,120 But we have to comply with the states. 512 00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:02,280 We have to update our by-laws to. 513 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,940 It's just a series of things to expand possibilities for housing. 514 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,380 In some places it makes a lot of sense. 515 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,460 Like on set, you literally can't replace your front steps without getting a variance. 516 00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:20,320 because you live in this at back. 517 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:28,930 So listen, we need to vote tonight. 518 00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:30,850 No, no, but we could. 519 00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:36,590 If you decide, you can take a straw vote and see, yes, we would like to put it as the use table 520 00:39:36,590 --> 00:39:42,870 and then we can post it as a public hearing for October after you've had a chance to review what the 521 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:47,610 zoning board sends you because you won't get it until quite literally the Wednesday before 522 00:39:47,610 --> 00:39:53,250 next the day before your next meeting. So you probably would have want more time than that to review it 523 00:39:53,250 --> 00:39:57,550 to talk about it. So we'll be talking about unofficially at your second meeting in September 524 00:39:57,550 --> 00:40:00,370 and then post the public hearing for the first meeting in October. 525 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:05,580 Okay. That makes sense. Anna, 526 00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:16,160 do you have any comments feedback from your side? I mean I'm looking over Jasmine's comments 527 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,560 that we got over email. I guess I want to better understand Jasmine's position. 528 00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:28,900 So I understand the way that Lisa explained it to me is that, you know, 529 00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:32,520 a zoning by-law right now, the way the zoning by-law is, is that if it's not illicit, 530 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,160 as it explicitly listed as a use, it's assumed that it's not allowed. 531 00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:41,880 By placing the moratorium there instead of just adding it to the use table as a no, 532 00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:46,440 the moratorium itself implies that it's an allowed use. 533 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:53,580 So, while in this process, say we voted to put a moratorium in place, if a developer wanted 534 00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:58,500 to between now and November, they could apply for a data center, because even though it's 535 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:05,060 not technically explicitly allowed in the use table, the moratorium shows them that we believe 536 00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:08,140 it's an intended use where we wouldn't have put a moratorium in place. 537 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:14,460 And if it expires, and somehow no steps are taken further taken, then the town is open to it, 538 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:19,460 and know it's not in the use table in any way and not regulated in any way in your zoning 539 00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:24,460 because you the moratorium assumes that it's an allowed use. 540 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,220 Does that make sense? 541 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,520 Okay. 542 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,940 So your recommendation is essentially make it a no. 543 00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:31,340 That would be my recommendation. 544 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,000 And then that that covers all of the bases. 545 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,540 It's a firm that doesn't make it assumed you're adding it as a no. 546 00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:40,800 And then you can just you can change that anytime there's no expiration. 547 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:43,620 It doesn't leave you vulnerable in case. 548 00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:49,160 Goodness forbids something happens and somehow everybody forgets about it because other things come up 549 00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:51,220 I think it just keeps everybody safer 550 00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:58,240 So yes, my my comment on this is if that's fleece's advice and Jasmine's recommendation 551 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,520 That's the way I'm leaning a 552 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,740 lot in her heads. Yes 553 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,020 Seems like me seems like everybody is going that way. So I think I already did our sponsor. Yes, yes 554 00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:19,380 All right. 555 00:42:27,150 --> 00:42:27,710 All right. 556 00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:28,350 Yeah. 557 00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:29,250 All right. 558 00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:29,670 Yeah. 559 00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:31,230 These are just, you know, they're nice. 560 00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:31,710 Public hearing. 561 00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:35,350 Let's see. 562 00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:39,690 Planning board task list is on the list of the list. 563 00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:46,150 I don't think we really have anything on that topic today. 564 00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:54,230 So the organization of the comprehensive planning implementation committee. 565 00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:55,970 Did everybody, oh, sorry. 566 00:42:56,970 --> 00:42:58,150 Is that about this? 567 00:42:58,990 --> 00:42:59,270 Yeah. 568 00:42:59,270 --> 00:43:06,890 But do you do everybody get the email from Susan that will did she send it to the planning board or just me I'm not even 569 00:43:06,890 --> 00:43:08,250 I don't yeah 570 00:43:08,250 --> 00:43:13,030 The organization of the comprehensive implementation committee. Oh 571 00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:17,970 I don't know. I talked to you a lot and that might have been what you'll land was having distributed 572 00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:20,110 But I actually didn't see the email so 573 00:43:30,130 --> 00:43:36,330 So Susan, it said, we won't be meeting together that each board will meet and vote separately, so our vote already counts. 574 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:38,330 They already voted you for the implementation committee. 575 00:43:38,330 --> 00:43:43,670 So this like board is just voting separately and then that's that we don't have to have a joint. 576 00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:45,290 That's going to be a point of this. 577 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:46,830 To a point at least. 578 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:48,790 And I know I saw that email. 579 00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:50,010 Okay. 580 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,030 Was that all that one was about? 581 00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:52,390 Yeah. 582 00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:52,910 Yes. 583 00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:55,910 But just check your spam because a lot of our stuff has been going. 584 00:43:56,330 --> 00:43:58,130 It was probably a week like a spam. 585 00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:13,130 So, on that topic, I talked to Yolanda and she had a list of names of people that were interested in that committee. 586 00:44:14,290 --> 00:44:26,470 I think it's said the two representatives from the two boards, and then I think five to seven other members. 587 00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:30,150 I think it was in the comprehensive plan document 588 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:32,030 that describing the group. 589 00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:35,690 And so there's a list of names of interested people 590 00:44:36,970 --> 00:44:39,530 that I can't remember how many are on the list, 591 00:44:39,790 --> 00:44:44,550 but it's not too many more than seven, seven to nine. 592 00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:47,810 So the idea was, 593 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:50,290 that what we thought we just talked about, 594 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:52,770 okay, how do we, what are the next steps here? 595 00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:58,750 So we thought the next step might be to have a meeting for... 596 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,760 You'll on it and anyone interested in being represented on that committee. So the people who are volunteering to kind of talk through what the committee is about, how off-out, what the workload might be just to kind of brainstorm a little bit, not really knowing, right, because there's no, there's something laid out for that. And then let those people have an opportunity to say that yes, they're still interested, or no, it doesn't fit my schedule. We also will have to, like, earmark a day to meet. 597 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:41,460 If it only works for Yolanda and I to do it on Wednesday's opposite, select board, then someone who has something on Wednesday, they just can't do it. 598 00:45:41,980 --> 00:45:44,400 Then, because we'll need to put it in the calendar. 599 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:52,660 To kind of go through those things and then see who's still interested of the people on this and being on the committee. 600 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:59,660 And that would kind of be the next, once we had the group names, obviously we're bringing it back to the planning board in the select board. 601 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,580 For approval, we're looking at, 602 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:13,140 I think we're looking at our next meeting, which would be... 603 00:46:13,140 --> 00:46:14,880 The 10th, September 10th. 604 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:16,960 Yeah, 605 00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:28,240 maybe September 10th, to maybe have that list that would be the earliest to maybe have that list. 606 00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:29,420 names. 607 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,500 But she was going to summarize everything so we talked about in a more of a more 608 00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:41,440 formal document so we're talking off the cuff a little bit about things we were brainstorm 609 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:48,700 about about how to move forward. So but we assume we buy the end of, say by the end of September 610 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,720 that we would have a committee and it would be ready to start work. 611 00:46:55,700 --> 00:47:02,520 Can I just get a clarification and that's like, you guys are brainstorming just a two of you or is that on public record? 612 00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:04,640 Just a two of us. 613 00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:12,680 Okay, and presumably you're going to review the prior, because I'm pretty confident there's a document on this from the comprehensive plan. 614 00:47:13,060 --> 00:47:17,000 Yes, obviously you'll learn this and she was on the committee. She's really obviously very familiar with that. 615 00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:23,940 And I think that's why I think that's why she said the five to seven people because that was, I think, a part of that comprehensive plan. 616 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:26,860 Right. I'm talking about my own specifics. 617 00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:35,460 Yeah, so my only concern with kind of brainstorming. I don't have any issue with you guys kind of brainstorming what she remembers what you're thinking. 618 00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:43,200 But to me what is going to happen as far as how the implementation committee is going to work is a comprehensive. 619 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:50,540 That's up to the select board and planning board together to ultimately kind of see certainly you guys can brainstorm. 620 00:47:50,540 --> 00:47:56,620 but I think you need to bring that back to both the select board and planning board all together 621 00:47:56,620 --> 00:48:01,880 so that when we point the membership, your brainstorming is what you bring to that, 622 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,000 that we then all vote for. I don't think it's something that you guys can just kind of decide. 623 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,880 I think that absolutely has to be part of the public record and a vote. 624 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,160 Yeah, I mean, we're going to have there's going to be more of a written document about this 625 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,800 is how, you know, this is how we're going to proceed. Like I said, we were going to write it up. 626 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,020 I think Yolanda was going to do that is something more formal, 627 00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:27,880 but on the other hand, like the comprehensive plan committee itself, 628 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,880 once it started with that group of 29 or whatever it was, 629 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,400 it was kind of its own entity. 630 00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:38,800 And it made its own plan about what to do, 631 00:48:38,820 --> 00:48:41,120 coming back to the planning board and select board, 632 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,220 occasionally to give a report, 633 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,180 but the planning board and the select board 634 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:48,080 to not dictate what that group should do. 635 00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:56,240 But anyway, but anyway, we'll have to see, you know, what's in the comprehensive plan document, obviously, and follow that. 636 00:48:56,340 --> 00:49:03,960 And then we'll have something to present to both boards about how we think, you know, that committee would work. 637 00:49:05,060 --> 00:49:09,540 So that's not my recollection. I remember when we had the comprehensive plan process, 638 00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:15,380 We as a organization, as a planning board, had many thoughts about how it should be organized. 639 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,320 I remember numerous documents that I had drafted about how it should be set up. 640 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,340 And then I remember discussions and Michael had a counter document that came into being 641 00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:29,720 after meeting with the entire membership of both planning board and select board. 642 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,680 And ultimately there was a vote on that process, as to how the comprehensive plan would be set up. 643 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,240 And so my recollection actually is the exact opposite that it's not something that is sort 644 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:46,280 of voted on last minute as we appoint, it's something that we actively participated in 645 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,960 as planning board members, the select board participated in town manager participated. 646 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,400 So I'm just a little hesitant. 647 00:49:53,680 --> 00:50:00,180 I don't have an issue with Yolanda and Trisha brainstorming a potential setup of how this 648 00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:00,780 would work. 649 00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:05,860 I for one think it should come back to the planning board for a discussion first, you know, 650 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,820 once Trisha and you'll want to put their thoughts on paper, we as a planning board should 651 00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:16,020 glance at it, discuss it, make sure we agree with it, and then obviously present that 652 00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:19,940 at a mutual meeting with the select board to ultimately vote on it. 653 00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:25,580 Well, like I said, we've talked about the conversation we had. 654 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,100 Obviously we'll go back to whatever documents. 655 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:41,780 I'm trying to remember too because I was there at the last part of the last couple meetings of the comprehensive plan, and I was discussed, and we'll go back to those documents that were voted on that became a part of the comprehensive plan, and we'll start there. 656 00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:55,260 I just didn't have them in front of me when I was brainstorming with Yolanda nor do I have them in front of me today, so obviously we'll follow whatever was actually a part of the comprehensive plan. 657 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:56,800 So, let me go from there. 658 00:50:57,340 --> 00:50:58,340 It's just a report today. 659 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:10,890 No. 660 00:51:10,890 --> 00:51:12,390 No other topics related to this. 661 00:51:12,590 --> 00:51:14,350 Then we go into the design review committee. 662 00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:17,230 Oh, that's me as well. 663 00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:23,110 So I met today with Glen Travis, who 664 00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:26,110 has an architecture firm here in town. 665 00:51:27,490 --> 00:51:35,850 He had served on a design review committee, helping 666 00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:44,810 the 10 to 60 Main Street Project, it was very informal, the applicant, in that case agreed 667 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:51,110 to, I think, was very excited to have their input, I guess, this kind of informal group. 668 00:51:53,010 --> 00:52:01,330 And Glenn is interested in being on this list of design review, community, but it's more 669 00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:03,890 But him being on the list to me because he has this experience. 670 00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:09,050 So as a part of, and I'll pass this on, he'll 671 00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:10,410 give his turn to this afternoon. 672 00:52:10,510 --> 00:52:13,950 But he actually created two quite weighty documents. 673 00:52:15,290 --> 00:52:20,470 Let's start its outline for him in this other context 674 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:22,090 that he was working in. 675 00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:27,070 How do we go about this job of evaluating these projects? 676 00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:29,970 right. So, he gave me this. 677 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,760 To God, documents and you said, free to share them with everybody as kind of a basis for how 678 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,720 might these design review committees kind of hit the ground running? Like, here's our job, here's 679 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:46,580 what we're supposed to do and here's a checklist of how we might start to do that. So that 680 00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:54,120 was a really productive discussion in starting that process. But I can make those available. 681 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480 Can you send me an electronic one? 682 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,940 Is anybody else expressed interest? 683 00:53:05,020 --> 00:53:11,740 Truthfully with the summer and traveling, I haven't talked to other, well, I have talked 684 00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:18,000 to one other person that's interested, so but I haven't formalized and I guess we'll 685 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:24,100 need a, I mean, this is a group that only we approve, it doesn't sound so like, 686 00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:30,360 board, it's just a cleaning board, so we'll have to figure out how we, um, write that process 687 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:30,640 looks. 688 00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:35,960 Yeah, and it's not a, it's not a competition that, it can be, the, the length of, there's 689 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,880 no limit to how many people can be on it. 690 00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:45,740 In fact, probably the more qualified people, the better, um, so, um, yeah, so people 691 00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:49,940 too, if they know people in action, that may, someone that might be good on one of these 692 00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:53,280 committees, they should, you know, see if they're interested. 693 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,220 So do we have to wait until we have a committee or can we start with the one person that has interest? 694 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,300 Well, wait, we have a. 695 00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:04,040 It sounds like with things that we've coming in the fall. 696 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,100 We really need, you know, we're going to need a more of a group. 697 00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:09,440 Right. 698 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,920 Oh, say at least three. 699 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,580 I would, you know. 700 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:13,140 Yeah. 701 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:16,460 They'll be too much. 702 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,260 Yeah. 703 00:54:17,260 --> 00:54:17,820 I would be too much. 704 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,360 Yeah. 705 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,420 I think the guidelines that it has to be in the middle of three. 706 00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:28,720 so. Yeah, so I will keep working on Apple, like I said, if people know people, that would be, 707 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:33,600 it doesn't have to be, you know, architects, designers, people in landscape, civil, 708 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:42,860 I thought maybe we should tap our old friends. Yes. The kid must be two years old now. 709 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:51,400 Yes, 710 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:56,540 working on some large highway kind of tight projects and things, some large scale infrastructure 711 00:54:56,540 --> 00:55:03,680 projects, so he had an interesting perspective sometime for us. But yes, I was going to give him a 712 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:10,140 nudge. I think it will be easier once you know what project you're looking for a team. They may be 713 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:15,980 a better interest and more people may be a little more responsive. Yeah. Right now it's too broad. 714 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:24,340 So, and I haven't been to haven't really been poking too much, just because I haven't had the opportunity. 715 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:32,320 So, how was the new project roster to help get more people to get interest in me? 716 00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:39,220 So, you don't have to put it to design review immediately, so you could begin your site plan and it's already been, 717 00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:45,140 or a special permit site plan review and it's undergoing review, but you're still looking for people to join the design review committee. 718 00:55:45,140 --> 00:56:01,240 And maybe they see a specific project and they say, yeah, I would really like to join that committee, so you have their name to a list, new, however the process looks probably to some type of interview, see what their qualifications and transfer background are, and then you get a point, at least three years. 719 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:06,300 It's already publicly released, so what's coming, but to give it, just make it, somebody might say, 720 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,000 why more interested in that particular part? 721 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,760 They're not yet. 722 00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:13,260 Anybody could add their name to the list at any time, because they're not a permit granting authority. 723 00:56:13,700 --> 00:56:19,960 So there's, they can come on to the design review committee at any time during the process. 724 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,900 I mean, they wouldn't, we wouldn't want somebody coming on like halfway through a project, 725 00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:29,400 but you know, we could have started site plan review and not a sort of design plan, 726 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,960 design review yet, if that makes sense. 727 00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:32,880 My explain that curve. 728 00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,280 Yeah, because you might sort of project first thinking about 729 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,640 conservation and about, you know, a lot of different things, the sustainability and 730 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,160 many things before you actually get into the design. 731 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:48,960 All right, but. 732 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:51,900 Yeah, I'm just not going to pause the candidate and I wasn't sure what project 733 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:53,360 my expertise would be needed. 734 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,360 If I knew what projects were coming, I could say, oh, I'm just, I can 735 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,960 And once we have a committee, we could just send like, you know, as soon as we have a project, 736 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,220 we know we have a public hearing coming for us, as a project sent in, we can say, sent to the 737 00:57:06,220 --> 00:57:11,400 design review committee and say this will need design review, you know, let us know if you're 738 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,420 interested in sitting in on this project. 739 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,940 I think. And if we don't get three people, then we just 740 00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:23,860 kind of falls to us. Yeah, unfortunately it does. 741 00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:28,520 Not to say you can't still get Glenn's opinion, 742 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,200 somebody wouldn't be, he can't be a committee of one. 743 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,360 And can members of this, of course. 744 00:57:33,380 --> 00:57:34,440 Award be on the committee? 745 00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:35,960 I sure can. 746 00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:41,920 Well, that's the thing that that's been kind of part of the question. 747 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:49,320 Only if they wish you, only if it really serves their true self-serving interests. 748 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,460 Well, it's been part of the question kind of the whole time, because sometimes like now 749 00:57:55,460 --> 00:58:04,040 And in the past few years, I would say, the planning board itself has been very design-heavy. 750 00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:10,400 Right? There's, you know, before Angel, there was Marcelo, right, so that three of the six 751 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:20,860 people were architects and designers, right, on our own board. So, so, but, but it could change when 752 00:58:20,860 --> 00:58:29,040 join, it was just me. So that's the kind of condition I think that we really especially need that 753 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,140 design review committee. 754 00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:40,200 But I will, yes, I will start to keep pastoring. I think people are 755 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,640 also a little slow. It's summer. Yeah. You know, and everything is just slower. 756 00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:49,860 So I definitely get that. Thank you for asking. We appreciate it. Sure. For asking people. 757 00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:57,060 Moving on, getting to reports here. 758 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,280 So the community preservation committee, 759 00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,320 I'm not sure we'll have much going on since. 760 00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:03,040 Yes, I'm going to the next month. 761 00:59:05,260 --> 00:59:08,300 Then we get to the Metro West Regional Deep-Up. 762 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,060 It's the same. 763 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,380 Same situation, OK. 764 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,840 And that's just a placeholder for one where rolling. 765 00:59:15,180 --> 00:59:17,640 The third one is comprehensive planning 766 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,540 documentation committee, which we already talked about. 767 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,960 We've been a little bit of that, so I guess we can move on. 768 00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:30,090 coming down the list or administrative matters, planning updates, ongoing and new projects. 769 00:59:30,970 --> 00:59:34,350 So you all have a copy of, well, Trisha, I didn't give it to you because I printed it for you, 770 00:59:34,490 --> 00:59:39,990 and I printed it for you, so I didn't give it to you either, but you all have subdivision rules and regulations in front of you. 771 00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:44,770 Because we do have a subdivision that's going to be coming before us, so just read those. 772 00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:50,090 If you have any questions about anything, please reach out ahead of time. 773 00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:53,130 but just familiarize yourself with it before the project. 774 00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:57,450 We expect it to probably be the second meeting of September 775 00:59:57,450 --> 00:59:58,690 for meeting in October. 776 01:00:00,370 --> 01:00:01,110 This, 777 01:00:03,490 --> 01:00:18,450 uh, trunk of the terminology of preliminary or we are recommending they submit a preliminary first. And I believe that is at their absolute intention, because they also would like to get, all there is dotted in T's cross. They seem very, 778 01:00:18,450 --> 01:00:23,490 be able to work with, they've always spoken with the fire department a few times, really 779 01:00:23,490 --> 01:00:28,550 integrated their comments, talk to conservation already, they haven't filed yet, but 780 01:00:28,550 --> 01:00:31,770 they've been very proactive so I think they'll be good to work with. 781 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,880 Thank you for making this easy. 782 01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:37,300 Good bed time, babe. 783 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,800 I like to print it in right notes and put stickers on it at my left hand. 784 01:00:45,420 --> 01:00:52,660 Is there something in here that would stand out specifically for this project that might be coming? 785 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,780 Just so that as I'm reading. 786 01:00:55,500 --> 01:01:00,020 You should use your familiar eyes yourself to probably all of it, even though it's kind of lengthy, 787 01:01:00,660 --> 01:01:03,000 because it is quite a process, all of it. 788 01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:06,440 So there is a lot that goes into a subdivision, and they are pretty lengthy reviews. 789 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,040 So there's not no question. 790 01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:10,060 No question of this. 791 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:24,280 Yeah, that's in your green folder and I have a copy of you as well that I can send it to you 792 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,860 Did you as well? 793 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,480 Okay 794 01:01:28,580 --> 01:01:31,140 Just the link to the subdivision walls and rigs 795 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,560 I want to move on 796 01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:44,290 to the 41s 797 01:01:46,970 --> 01:01:51,150 I have no updates on that the 55 West Union was continued 798 01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:57,390 into a September 8th and we do anticipate hopefully having a discussion on that evening 799 01:01:57,390 --> 01:02:02,810 so if anybody's interested, I don't need to sit on the 8th. 800 01:02:02,830 --> 01:02:03,410 September 8th. 801 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:13,420 Let's do the minutes review for August 13th. 802 01:02:42,070 --> 01:02:44,750 I did not have any changes on that. 803 01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:47,110 I had no changes to either. 804 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:49,250 I didn't find anything to. 805 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,440 There's only one set of meeting minutes, right? 806 01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:57,680 It's just one. 807 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,060 Just one. 808 01:02:58,060 --> 01:02:58,080 Just one. 809 01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:58,480 Okay, 810 01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:07,210 I'm good the way it is 811 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,720 about to this and anybody want to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes for August 13 812 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:25,840 I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from August 13 as is 813 01:03:27,460 --> 01:03:27,740 Second 814 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,680 We'll call boom 815 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:31,840 Trisha can die 816 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:32,900 You're going to die 817 01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:35,160 Thank you, and a test minutes get out 818 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:35,780 Got built here 819 01:03:36,420 --> 01:03:37,640 Pull them up to see you know why 820 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,800 All right, so I think that is 821 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,520 next meeting is September 10th 822 01:03:47,540 --> 01:03:48,980 everybody be here. 823 01:03:54,490 --> 01:03:55,590 I'll likely be remote but 824 01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:57,790 yes. Okay. Okay. I'll be 825 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,840 here. Very good. All right so we can add 826 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,580 on the meeting. Motion to close meeting. 827 01:04:23,340 --> 01:04:25,580 Second up. We'll call a boat. 828 01:04:25,580 --> 01:04:34,620 Oh, that's good. 829 01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:36,260 Yeah. 830 01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:37,780 Jasmine, is there anything I need to sign? 831 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:38,900 Because I'm not there. 832 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,780 Whenever you're ready, we have the decision we can...