1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:10,480 The time being 10:00 a.m., >> I now call declare the first session of 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:17,559 the 2026 town meeting to order. >> Please stand and join us in reciting the 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,559 pledge of allegiance led by Andy F. 4 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:28,320 To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:34,439 stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 6 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:34,439 for all. 7 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:45,840 » I would like now to have a moment of silence in memory of two former town 8 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:50,879 employees which we lost this past year. Paty Tucker, who was the town clerk and 9 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:56,960 tax collector for many, many years, and Tony Rando, who was our police chief for 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,960 at least 10 years. 11 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Thank you. 12 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,080 Please be sure your cell phones are off or muted. 13 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:21,960 Also, please be sure you checked in and have your red voter card. 14 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:31,520 Basically, today's meeting will review and discuss each article on the warrant, 15 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:37,200 which will be finally voted on by ballot on Tuesday, March 10. 16 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:43,280 The articles may be amended today with some restrictions, such as the intent of 17 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:47,840 the article cannot be changed. Votes today are simply to put the 18 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,240 warrant in final form for the town voting day. 19 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Some of our employees and department heads 20 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:05,040 may be the ones best suited to address questions on certain articles. However, 21 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:11,360 they do not live in Ashland. I would entertain a motion to f to allow 22 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:16,000 such individuals to speak if needed to address any questions on an article. 23 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,000 » So moved. >> So moved by David. 24 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,319 » Second. >> Second by Michelle. Great. 25 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:27,800 Motion was moved by David Rule, seconded by Michelle Roloff. 26 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Any discussion? 27 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:33,519 Being no discussion, all those in favor of allowing these individuals to speak 28 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,040 say I. >> I. 29 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:40,040 » Any oppose? Nay. Pass. 30 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:51,040 Article one to choose by nonpartisan ballot. 31 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:55,959 I will now ask the town clerk to read the candidates who are running for the 32 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,959 open offices 33 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:14,640 on the ballot. It will read select two for a three-year term for board of 34 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:21,640 selectmen and Marie Barney, Steven Felton, and 35 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:21,640 Charles Bazilla. 36 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:31,760 The next one will be a one-year term for board of selectmen 37 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:37,920 choosing one. Your choices will be Steven Heath and 38 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Alan Silly. Trustee of the trust funds, a three-year 39 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:48,159 term. Amanda Loud, Library Trustee, a three-year term. 40 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Robin Fisk, budget committee, three-year term, Jim 41 00:03:50,879 --> 00:04:02,080 Joyce. The two uh spots for cemetery trustee, 42 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:07,680 no one uh put their name on the ballot. Treasurer, three-year term. Linda Gia, 43 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:16,680 supervisor of the checklist, six-year term. Terry Lindon, supervisor of the 44 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:16,680 checklist, two-year term, Elaine Allen. 45 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:20,199 » Thank you, Becky. 46 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:28,560 » Any registered voter in Ashlin can also run as a writein candidate for any of 47 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:32,000 these open positions or any of the positions. Is there anyone here today 48 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:38,680 that would like to announce their candidacy for writing? 49 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Okay, thank you. 50 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:51,199 Articles two, three, four, and five have been submitted by the planning board 51 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:56,160 after at least two public hearings as required by law. 52 00:04:53,280 --> 00:05:02,160 Therefore, although we can discuss them, we cannot they cannot be modified or 53 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:08,720 amended in any way. I will entertain a motion to move and the review of 54 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:16,360 articles 2, three, four, and five for purposes of today's meeting only to be 55 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:16,360 discussed after article 31. 56 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Been moved by Linda Barnes. Have a second. 57 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,759 I don't know who did that. I think it was John. 58 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,759 » Oh, D. 59 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Any discussion? 60 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:41,360 There being no discussion, all those in favor of allowing moving 61 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:46,400 those articles 2, three, four, and five to after article 31 signify by saying I. 62 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,199 I. >> Any oppose? Nay. 63 00:05:56,479 --> 00:05:59,479 Okay. 64 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:10,000 Article six, water department bond, no tax impact 65 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,080 to see if the town of Ashlin will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of 66 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:20,560 $500,000 and no sense for the purpose of all work 67 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:26,319 needed to identify, engineer, purchase of materials and replace water system 68 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:31,840 services improving compliance with the federal lead and copper rule. 69 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:38,319 such sum to be raised by the issuance of bonds or notes not to exceed $500,000 70 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:45,120 under and in compliance with the provisions of the municipal finance act 71 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:50,720 New Hampshire New Hampshire RSA 33 col1 at seek as amended and to authorize the 72 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:57,199 board of selectmen to issue and negotiate such bonds or notes and to 73 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,639 determine the date term of payment and rate of interest thereof. 74 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Further to take such act f other actions as may 75 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:10,560 be necessary to affect the issuance, negotiation, 76 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:14,960 sale and delivery of such bonds or notes as should be in the best interest of the 77 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:20,800 town of Ashlin, New Hampshire and to further authorize the board of selectmen 78 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:26,319 to apply for accept and expend unanticipated money from the state, 79 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:33,840 federal or other governmental unit or a private source which becomes available 80 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:39,360 ailable pursuant to RSA 31 col 95-B for the same or similar purposes of this 81 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:43,120 article 3-fifth ballot vote will be required 82 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:49,720 recommended by the board of selectment 5 to zero recommended by the budget 83 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:49,720 committee 6 to zero. 84 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:58,720 Is there is there a motion to move this to the floor for debate? Motion to to 85 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,639 move to the floor. >> Bob 86 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:03,639 second. 87 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,400 » Any second? >> Second. 88 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:09,400 » Oh, Michelle second. 89 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,120 Is there any discussion on this article? 90 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:23,680 There being no discussion on this article, we will vote to place it on the 91 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:26,960 ballot as written. All those in favor? I >> I 92 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,960 » oppose. N I 93 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:42,959 » article 7 town budget estimated tax impact $96. 94 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Shall the town of Ashlin vote to raise and appropriate as an operating budget 95 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:53,760 not including appropriations by special warrant articles and other 96 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,920 appropriations voted separately. The amount set forth in the budget posted 97 00:08:55,839 --> 00:09:04,160 with the warrant as amended by vote of the first session for the purposes as 98 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:07,160 set forth therein including or totaling 4,117,26. 99 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:18,240 Should this article be defeated, the default budget shall be 4 million 3,67 100 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:22,640 which dollars which is the same as last year with certain adjustments required 101 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:27,680 by provision by previous action of the town of Ashlin or by law or the 102 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:35,519 governing body may hold one special meeting in accordance with RSA 40 col 13 103 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:40,880 10 and 16 to take up the issue of a revised operating budget Only majority 104 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:47,680 vote required recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero recommended by 105 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:52,240 the budget committee 5 to one. Is there a motion to move this article 106 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:56,920 to the floor for debate? So move >> David second. 107 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,920 » Second. 108 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:09,120 » Is there any discussion on this article? There being no discussion, we will just 109 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:16,440 vote to place it on the ballot as written. All those in favor? I. 110 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,440 » All those opposed? Nay. 111 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:34,320 Article 8, electric department budget, no tax impact. Should the town of Ashlin 112 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:39,040 vote to raise and appropriate as the Ashlin Electric Department operating 113 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:43,920 budget, not including appropriations by special warrant article and other 114 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:48,399 appropriations voted separately. The amount set forth on the budget posted 115 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:56,440 with the warrant is amended by vote of the first session for the purposes set 116 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:56,440 forth therein totaling 4,125,826. 117 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:05,240 Should this article be defeated, the default budget shall be 3,553,636, 118 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:14,480 which is the same as last year with certain adjustments required by previous 119 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:19,920 action of the town of Ashlin or by law or the governing body may hold one 120 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:27,920 special meeting in accordance with RSA 40 colon 13 10 and 16 to take up the 121 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:34,640 issue of a revised operating budget. Only majority vote required recommended 122 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:39,839 by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee 6 to 123 00:11:36,959 --> 00:11:43,399 zero. Do I have a motion to move this to the floor for debate? 124 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,480 » David. >> I'll second. 125 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:59,519 » Any discussion on this article? There being no discussion, 126 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:04,560 I move that we take a vote to place this on the warrant as written. All those in 127 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:08,360 favor? I. >> Any oppose? Nay. 128 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:18,880 Article nine, water department budget. Should the town of Ashen vote to raise 129 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:22,959 and appropriate as the Ashlin Water Department operating budget, not 130 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:27,760 including appropriations for special warrant articles and other 131 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:32,560 appropriations voted separately, the amount set forth on the budget posted 132 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:38,800 with the warrant or as amended by vote of the first session for the purposes 133 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,800 set forth therein, including totaling $48,365. 134 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:49,839 Should this article be defeated, the default default budget shall be 135 00:12:46,959 --> 00:12:54,560 $399,086, which is the same as last year with 136 00:12:52,240 --> 00:13:00,800 certain adjustments required by previous action of the town of Ashen or by law or 137 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:08,720 the governing body may hold one special meeting in accordance with RSA 40 colon 138 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:14,560 13 10 and 16 to take up the issue of a revised operating budget only majority 139 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:19,600 vote. Vote required. Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. 140 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:24,079 Recommended by the budget committee 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move this to 141 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,560 the floor for debate? Second. 142 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:33,000 » That was Michelle and David. Is there any discussion on this article? 143 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:42,639 There being no discussion, I would we will vote to place this article on the 144 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:48,519 ballot on the warrant as written. Those in favor I 145 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,519 » those opposed? Nay. 146 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Article 10, sewer department budget, no tax impact. 147 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Should the town of Ashlin vote to raise and appropriate is the Ashen Sewer 148 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Department operating budget not including appropriations by special 149 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:17,440 warrant articles and other appropriations separately. The amount 150 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:22,399 set forth in the budget posted with the warrant or as amended by vote of the 151 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:27,240 first session for the purposes set forth therein totaling $847,327. 152 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Should this article be defeated, the default budget shall be $837 153 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 $83713. 154 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,320 I meant $837,113, 155 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:49,199 which is the same as last year with certain adjustments required by previous 156 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:54,480 action of the town of Ashton or by law or the governing body may hold one 157 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:59,519 special meeting in accordance with RSA 4013 158 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:05,120 10 and 16 to take up the issue of a revised operating budget only. Majority 159 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:11,120 vote required. Recommended by the board of selectmen. 5 to zero. Recommended by 160 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,360 the budget committee. 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move this to the floor 161 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:18,480 for debate? >> Motion. 162 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:22,760 » Andy. A second. >> I'll second. 163 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,760 » Michelle will second 164 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,600 article. Any discussion on article 10? 165 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:37,680 There being no discussion, we will now vote to place this on the warrant as 166 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:41,560 written. All those in favor? I. >> All those opposed, nay. 167 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:54,079 Article 11, no tax impact. Should the town of Ashlin vote to approve the cost 168 00:15:51,759 --> 00:16:00,079 items included in the collective bargaining agreement reached between the 169 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:05,519 Ashland Board of Selectmen and the SEIU local 1984 union which calls for the 170 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:11,519 following increase in salaries and benefits at the current staffing level. 171 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Estimated increase over previous year level 2026 172 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:21,720 39 weeks April 1st through December 31st $49,933. 173 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:29,079 2027 52 weeks $25,283. 174 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:35,399 2028 52 weeks $26,042. 175 00:16:38,079 --> 00:16:48,800 2029 13 weeks $8,681 and further to raise and appropriate 176 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:52,959 $49,933 for the current fiscal year. Such sum 177 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:58,720 representing the additional costs attribut attributable to the increase in 178 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:04,000 salaries and benefits required by the new agreement over those that would be 179 00:17:00,959 --> 00:17:08,400 paid at current staffing levels said some 180 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:13,679 to come from the general fund unassigned fund balance $34,98 181 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:19,360 and further to fund the balance of the appropriation in the amount of $11,269 182 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:27,280 from the electric department from the electric100 878 from water income, 1,878 183 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:32,160 from sewer income with no funds to be raised from property taxes. Majority 184 00:17:29,679 --> 00:17:38,160 vote required. Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by 185 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:42,080 the budget committee 5 to one. Do I have a motion to move it to the floor for 186 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,799 debate? Andy 187 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,960 second. >> I'll second. 188 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,400 » Any discussion on this article? 189 00:17:54,160 --> 00:18:00,840 » There being no discussion vote. 190 00:17:57,679 --> 00:18:00,840 » I'm sorry. 191 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,960 » Can anybody clarify what percentage that is? 192 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,080 » Here 3%. 193 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,400 » It's 3%. >> So on each year Say it again though. So 194 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:19,520 that's a >> My question is if you did the math for 195 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:23,919 20 25 27 28 29 on that the denominator is the actual benefits and salaries of 196 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:28,240 those union employees. So just clarifying that's 3% Yandy 197 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:33,760 » I believe. So like that's what it was. >> Thank you. 198 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Good job. Good question. >> Any other questions? 199 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:42,559 » Could you get to the mic please and announce your name and show your voter 200 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,559 card? 201 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:49,280 my red card. >> Yes. 202 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:55,240 » Robin Fisk, I just had a question. What percentage of the um 203 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,240 » Can you put it on? 204 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,640 » Did that work? >> Press and hold it to the light. 205 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,799 » I think you have to hold it right under the 206 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,400 » There you go. >> Yeah. Try it now. 207 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:10,799 » Can I just yell? >> Your mic Your mic's on now. 208 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:15,120 » Robin Fisk. Um, I just wanted to know what percentage of the general fund 209 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:20,559 unassigned fund balance will be used for this. Thank you. 210 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:23,039 » Well, currently we have 1.4 million. >> Yeah, I don't know what the percentage 211 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,799 is. >> What was the It does say it says how 212 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,919 much is coming from the fund B. I just What was the question? 213 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:35,120 » What was the percentage of the un the general fund unassigned balance of which 214 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:41,120 $39,98 would be used for this expense? 215 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:48,720 » Yeah. So, so currently we have 1.43 million in unassigned fund balance. And 216 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:52,799 » can can everybody use a mic because it's really hard to hear? 217 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:57,600 » Sorry. Thank you. >> I think it's okay. Yep. 218 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:03,280 » So, currently we have 1.43 million in unassigned fund balance according to the 219 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:07,280 auditor. And this would be a small percentage. 220 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:09,440 » That that's that's good enough. I didn't need the exact number, but I just 221 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,200 » Okay. Okay. >> Thank you very much. 222 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,039 » You're welcome. >> Becky, why don't you keep the mic and 223 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:19,559 keep it on? >> Hold on. 224 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,559 » Any other questions? 225 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:24,120 » Can I have a motion to move the question? 226 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,919 » David moved it. >> A second. 227 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:34,159 » Second. >> All those in favor of ending discussion 228 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,880 signify by saying I. I. >> Those opposed, nay. 229 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:46,880 We will now vote on placing the article on the warrant as written. All those in 230 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:52,039 favor I. >> All those opposed, nay. 231 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,039 » I 232 00:20:53,679 --> 00:21:02,080 article 12. to the town of Ashlin. If article 11 is 233 00:20:59,679 --> 00:21:08,240 defeated, authorize the governing body to call one special meeting at its 234 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:13,200 option to address article 11 cost items only. Majority vote required. 235 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:17,120 Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. Do I have a motion to move this 236 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,240 to the floor? >> I make the motion. Standing. 237 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:27,840 » Second. >> Second. Done. 238 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,840 » Any questions on article 12? 239 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:35,440 There being no questions, we will vote to place this on the warrant as written. 240 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:39,080 All in favor? I. >> All oppose? Nay. 241 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Article 13, master plan. Estimated tax impact 2 cents. 242 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:55,840 to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $10,000 243 00:21:53,280 --> 00:22:00,720 for the purpose of starting the process of updating the town of Ashen master 244 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:07,039 plan recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero recommended by the 245 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:11,600 budget committee 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move this to the floor? 246 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:14,600 » Jenny secondy, 247 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,840 » any discussion on this item? 248 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:27,039 There will be being no discussion. We will vote to place this on the warrant 249 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:32,440 as written. All those in favor I. >> All those opposed? Nay. 250 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,440 Pass. 251 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:43,440 Article 14. Contingency vote contingency fund no tax impact. to the town of 252 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Ashlin vote to establish a contingency fund for the current year for 253 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:55,760 unanticipated expenses that may arise and further to raise and appropriate 254 00:22:51,679 --> 00:23:00,480 $100,000 to put in the fund. The sum is to come from the unassigned fund balance 255 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:03,600 and no amount shall be to be raised by taxation. 256 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:08,640 Any appropriation left in the contingency fund at the end of the year 257 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:14,320 will lapse to the general fund. Majority vote required. Recommended by the board 258 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:21,200 of selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee 5 to one. Can I 259 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:23,440 have a motion to move it to the floor? >> Jen second. 260 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:30,679 » I'll second. >> Andy second. 261 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,679 Any questions on article 14? 262 00:23:31,679 --> 00:23:38,880 There being no discussion, we'll vote to move this to the warrant as written. All 263 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:42,080 those in favor I >> I. 264 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,080 » All those opposed, nay. Yes. 265 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:58,000 Article 15, fire department capital reserve fund. Estimated tax impact 6 266 00:23:54,799 --> 00:24:03,520 cents. Should the town of Ashlin vote to raise and appropriate the sum of 25,000 267 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:09,919 to be added to the fire department capital reserve fund established in 2013 268 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:15,520 for the purpose of repairing or purchasing fire department vehicles. 269 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Majority vote required. Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. 270 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:25,120 Recommended by the budget committee 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move it to 271 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,880 the floor? Second. 272 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:33,000 » Second. >> Michelle, 273 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:33,000 any discussion on this article. 274 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:40,840 » Oh, go ahead. Could you come to the microphone, please? Thank you. 275 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:48,480 » Hello, Bonnie Bthun. 160 Alpha Growth. Just had a question. Do these gain 276 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,679 interest while they're in the capital reserve fund? 277 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,200 » Yes. >> Any idea how much? 278 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:58,679 » Pass the mic. Amanda Low. 279 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:09,760 » Hi, thank you. I'm Amanda Loud. I'm chair of the trustees of the trust 280 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:14,960 funds. All capital reserve funds are by state law invested in money market 281 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:19,360 accounts. That's to ensure their liquidity, fungeability um here at 282 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:25,200 Meredith Village Savings Bank and they are earn earning the current uh interest 283 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:31,360 rate there which is fairly minimal if anybody has everybody's like oh yeah 284 00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:37,039 yeah yeah okay so that's why um on the capital reserve funds statement list 285 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:42,080 that I provided via Marissa for today's meeting um I said that you know it's a 286 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:47,120 negligible amount in interest you know depending on how big the fund is it 287 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:50,720 could be some dollars every month or it could be some cents. 288 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,720 » Thank you, Amanda. >> But this just ensures when we have them 289 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:58,880 invested in this way, that means that we can, you know, quite literally write a 290 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:04,080 check at the drop of a hat. You know, we're not waiting for anything to settle 291 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:09,600 and and also under state law, we are um uh encumbered to put the funds in a way 292 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:14,000 that they cannot lose money. you know, these are your tax dollars and so we 293 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:18,080 could get a lot more money. I I understand that through Charles Schwab, 294 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:22,880 but uh we wouldn't be able to write like we did for a plow truck. I you know, we 295 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:27,039 got a phone call from u Marissa and and and you know, two of us got together 296 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,640 that day and wrote a check for a plow truck that Craig had found at a really 297 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,240 good deal even though it was a lot of money. So, um that's how it goes. Thank 298 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:40,159 you. >> Thanks, man. 299 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,159 Any other questions? 300 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,240 Do >> I have a motion to end debate on this 301 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:50,080 article? >> I'll make the motion. 302 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,480 » Second. >> Second. 303 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:57,200 » Okay. All in favor of ending discussion on 304 00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:00,919 this article signify by saying I. I. >> All those opposed, nay. 305 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,880 » We'll now vote to put this on the warrant as written. All those in favor? 306 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,159 I. >> I. All those opposed? Nay. 307 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:21,919 Article 16, police department car capital reserve fund estimated tax 308 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:27,440 impact 8 cents. Shall the town of Ashlin vote to raise 309 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:31,919 and appropriate the sum of $35,000 to be deposited into the police 310 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:37,120 department capital reserve fund established in 2013 311 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:42,320 for the purposes for the purposes of repairing and purchasing police 312 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:47,440 department vehicles. Majority vote required recommended by the board of 313 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:52,400 selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee 6 to zero. I have a 314 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,480 motion to push move it to the floor for debate. 315 00:27:53,679 --> 00:28:00,799 » Motion passion to move >> article 16. 316 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:05,360 This >> Alexander 317 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:09,799 need a second. Okay, Andy. >> Any discussion on article 16, 318 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:17,520 there being no discussion? I'm sorry. >> Hi. 319 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:22,159 » Yeah, my name is Hugh Healey. I live on uh 6 Michael's Way. It's just a general 320 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,960 question for these reserve funds. Um, you know, you make a statement that this 321 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,880 is a reserve fund and we're going to add to it. Does that mean that currently 322 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,880 there's money in the reserve funds? >> Yes. 323 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:39,520 » I don't know if it would be helpful or not, but maybe if we state that 324 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,200 » there's a paper on the back table. >> Oh, that actually has that in there. 325 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:50,799 Okay. Well, thank you. I'll take one. >> Good question. Yeah. So, the um police 326 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,799 car line C uh CRF currently is at $33,1467. 327 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:10,080 Any other questions on this article? >> I have another Sorry. 328 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,559 » That's okay. Don't be sorry. That's what this meeting's for. 329 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,679 » Hi, I'm Hugh Healey again. Uh so you know when you add all these numbers up 330 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:24,000 there's quite a bit of money in here right and uh and a lady came recently 331 00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:29,200 and talked about you know where these funds go and there seem to be sitting 332 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:37,360 simple savings accounts and and I get the whole liquidity thing but you know 333 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:41,760 for myself and maybe others too um there's other places you can put money 334 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:45,440 and make a little bit more that's pretty liquid. 335 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:50,799 it seems to me. Um, and maybe that can be discussed a little bit because it 336 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:55,840 looks like we're holding um like a half a million dollars there maybe. I don't 337 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:59,679 know in in in these in these accounts that um unless you're kind of burning 338 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,919 through it and then maybe that doesn't really make a difference. But if you're 339 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:09,760 really holding on to it for any, you know, longer period of time and um and 340 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,360 and I don't know if they're in like separate accounts or just one big 341 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:17,760 account and they're, >> you know, how they're portioned. So u I 342 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:22,720 don't know how it works technically, but it just seems to be that well maybe you 343 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,480 could be making a little bit more money on it. You know, if you took this and 344 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:32,080 the current rates, you could be maybe making five or six or seven or $8,000. 345 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,679 It kind of makes a difference. So, >> Amanda, can you address that? 346 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,720 » Sure. >> Thank you. 347 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:45,360 » Yeah. Um, uh, no, absolutely. I I I do agree with with your math. Um, however, 348 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:51,520 uh, we are obligated to follow New Hampshire state law when it comes to how 349 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:57,520 uh, municipal funds are are set aside and invested, if you will. And so we 350 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:03,039 where our hands are tied by conquered, not by anything that we can do here in 351 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:07,919 Ashland about that. Uh secondly, um the the funds don't sit there quite as long 352 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:14,320 as you would think. Uh when we bought a plow truck Oh, mercy. My num the numbers 353 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:19,679 in my head. It was over $100,000 that we spent. Yeah, they got they got the Yeah. 354 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:24,080 Thank you so much. um you know I I write big checks 355 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:28,640 and it's pretty exciting. Um and then of course I get my tax bill it's not quite 356 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:33,039 so exciting but um things are not are not cheap and we're going to put more 357 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:38,880 money aside on this police car for example Capital Reserve and police cars 358 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,480 are just not what you're going you know they're not a Subaru you know and um 359 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:48,640 they're not what you're going to find on the lot. So, um, this stuff is a way of 360 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:54,880 us not getting hit with extremely large tax bills every seven years or so or 3 361 00:31:51,840 --> 00:32:00,399 years or um, but then again, we're really very limited on what we we can 362 00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:04,480 and cannot do with the CRF. Um, that's not the case, for example, with with 363 00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:08,480 some of the trusts that we fund, which are or that we manage. We don't fund 364 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:13,360 them. Um, which are completely different than a CRF. CRF is put is a capital 365 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:21,440 reserve fund for a specific purpose that the tax bills pay into that's voted on 366 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:26,320 by the town um uh for specific purposes. Our our trust funds on the other hand 367 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:32,240 and we've got uh I think we have five of those now um that we can actually access 368 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:37,120 through are still at legal but um those are set aside differently. They're for 369 00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:41,279 funding scholarships, for example. Um, and so those can be invested better and 370 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,200 they are. They're at Vanguard and they're making more money, but but we're 371 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,919 just very limited by the law laws of the state of New Hampshire. 372 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:53,960 » Thank you, Amanda. >> Thank you. 373 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,960 » Any other questions? 374 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,399 » I don't have a red card, so can I ask a question? 375 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,279 » Are you a registered voter? >> Yeah. 376 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:04,640 » Okay. Um, does anyone object to her speaking? No, no, I'm just I just wanted 377 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960 to >> Could you announce your name though? 378 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,279 Come to the mic and announce your name, please. 379 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:11,679 » I'm sorry. >> Lori Mayo, I have a house on River 380 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,519 Street, >> right? 381 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:18,240 » I didn't realize I didn't vote register to vote. Um I just was wondering, so the 382 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,399 the state law um prohibits us from investing in a high yield savings 383 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,760 account. >> Go ahead, Amanda. 384 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,519 didn't get her name. >> Honestly, that that I cannot answer 385 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,559 because I think it would depend upon what the parameters are of that high 386 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:39,679 yield account. So, I do know that at this point in time, Ashlin does comply 387 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:44,320 with state law having them at Meredith Village in money market accounts. We can 388 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,240 certainly look as trust fund, you know, our next meeting is in March and we can 389 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:52,640 certainly look into that. That would just depend upon what the parameters are 390 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:59,200 of the high yield account. uh we in inherited we you know I guess only I 391 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:05,039 because um I was a a sole trustee of the trust funds when I was elected but um we 392 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,440 inherited you know this at Meredith Village you know and they were legally 393 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:14,000 and and accurately invested and we didn't look into that we had bigger fish 394 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:18,879 to fry um and those that have been in Ashlin for a while are chuckling and and 395 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:21,919 and understand that statement um but that is definitely something we could 396 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,119 look too. >> Yeah, 397 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,599 » Bob, if you have a question, Bob, you have a question, please come to the mic. 398 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,879 » Bobo, >> Bob Lo, 399 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:35,520 » the uh high yield funds have penalty fees if you have to withdraw them early. 400 00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:39,200 » Yeah, they they could be again, you know, that that would be more of a CD. I 401 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,320 think that would encumber funds in which we are prohibited um because we have to 402 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:48,240 keep our funds um fairly unencumbered and fungeable. Like I said, Marissa 403 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:53,599 called and said, "Can you guys get us a check by 2:00 p.m.?" I'm like, well, 404 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:57,440 we'll work on it. Um, so we have to have the liquidity of these funds. Um, and 405 00:34:55,839 --> 00:35:01,839 again, like I I said to answer your question, it would just depend upon what 406 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:07,640 the the parameters and caveats are of that high yield fund. 407 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,640 » Yeah. Thank you. 408 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,520 » Thank you. >> Any other questions? 409 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:17,119 Can >> I have a motion to end debate? 410 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:23,119 » Motion. >> Second. A second. 411 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:24,400 » All those in favor of ending debate say I. 412 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,119 » I. >> Those opposed, nay. 413 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:33,119 » We'll now move this article to the warrant. Vote on moving this article to 414 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:38,680 the warrant as written. All those in favor? I. 415 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,680 » All those opposed, nay. 416 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:49,440 » Article 17, public works capital reserve fund. 417 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:54,480 Estimated tax impact 7 cents. Should the town of Ashen vote to raise and 418 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:59,520 appropriate the sum of $30,000 to be deposited into the Department of Public 419 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:03,359 Works capital reserve fund established in 2016 420 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:08,880 for the purpose of vehicles and equipment replacement or repairs. 421 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:13,839 Majority vote required. Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. 422 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:18,960 Recommended by the budget committee 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move it to 423 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:26,240 the floor? >> Second, Andy. 424 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:29,240 » Any discussion on this article? >> Yes. 425 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:38,960 » Clon60 Albrook Road. Just a question on procedure on how these are spent. I 426 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:44,000 guess I had it in my head that we had to go to the town warrant to spend these 427 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:48,920 funds. So, can somebody just explain how the capital reserve funds can be spent? 428 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:55,160 » Yeah. Um, >> use the mic, please. 429 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:05,200 » To spend these funds, um, they need the BOS board of selectment approval. Um, it 430 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:11,240 comes to the board of selectment for approval upon the town manager's 431 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,240 recommendation. 432 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:18,880 Okay. Any other questions? >> I can just add one more thing. 433 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:24,800 » Sure. Go ahead. >> Boy, I I I have not been This busy is a 434 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:29,280 trustee of the trust funds in a town deliberative session. Um but that's 435 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,880 good. That's good. Um so I just like to agree with absolutely everything Andy 436 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,200 said. That's correct. However, we trustees of the trust funds act as kind 437 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:41,599 of that balance to the board of selectman spending because um not only 438 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:46,000 are we the ones that write the checks and not the board of selectmen, they 439 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:51,520 just we get uh a big packet with all the information we need and we write the 440 00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:55,599 checks which we can by the way only hand to Becky. We are not allowed to hand 441 00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:01,280 this check to Marissa or anybody else in the office. Uh again that's state law. 442 00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:06,240 Um and then secondly, our second duty as a trustee in the trust fund is to ensure 443 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:10,480 that what the board of selectment has asked to fund, you know, this check to 444 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:17,680 fund and we'll have a list of that the receipt that that is indeed what the 445 00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:25,119 funds were voted to do. So, it's usually a pretty um no-brainer thing, like we 446 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:30,079 have a CRF called police car CRF, and here's the receipt for the police car 447 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:35,599 that they bought. So, we're pretty set on that. But sometimes it could get 448 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:42,079 fairly um vague. For example, if we had a CRF and it's a something to do with um 449 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,839 a a I'm making something up now, you know, like improvement or whatever, and 450 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:50,320 we have to look at this and go, well, did they really use the funds to improve 451 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:55,119 the whatever, or did they use the funds to improve the something else? Um, so 452 00:38:52,960 --> 00:39:00,480 that's where we act as a counterbalance to this to ensure that your funds are 453 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:06,320 indeed being spent as the ballot box said they should be spent. 454 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,480 Thank you, Amanda. Go ahead. 455 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:17,280 Bonnie Bthoon 160 over wrote, "I just wanted to thank you. Thank the town and 456 00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:24,240 town's people and the boards and committees for the CRFs. I would love to 457 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:28,599 have my personal budget like this." >> Thank you. 458 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,599 » Talk to Amanda. 459 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:37,599 Big bucket. Big. >> Any other questions or discussion? 460 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,160 Can I have a motion to end debate? >> So move. 461 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,160 » Second. >> Second. 462 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,640 » All those in favor of ending debate on this article signify saying I. 463 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,280 » I. >> Those opposed, nay. 464 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:59,839 » We will now vote to move this article to article to the warrant as written. Those 465 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:04,119 in favor I >> those opposed? Nay. 466 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:16,079 Article 18 road and bridge capital reserve fund 467 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:21,680 fund estimated tax impact 7 cents. Should the town of Ashlin vote to raise 468 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:26,720 and appropriate the sum of $30,000 to be deposited into the road and 469 00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:31,680 bridges capital reserve fund established in 2013. 470 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:36,720 Majority vote required. Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. 471 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:42,359 Recommended by the budget committee 6 to z. Do I have a motion to move it to the 472 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:42,359 floor? 473 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:51,720 second. >> Second. 474 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,720 » Any discussion on article 18? 475 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,320 » Yes. 476 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:11,839 Hey, I'm short. Um, my name is Kathy Shear. I live on 477 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:18,000 Spring Street. Our street is awful and my husband has lived there for 478 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:22,560 something like 45 years. Never been fixed. It falling apart. It's falling 479 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:31,680 into my um my garden. Um and I want to know how 480 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:36,880 you figure out what roads to fix with this money. I don't know if this is 481 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:42,200 appropriate for this, but um it's very concerning and I'm sure we're not the 482 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,200 only ones. 483 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:03,119 Good morning everyone. I'm the public works director Craig Moore. Um yeah, we 484 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:07,599 have a a road improvement plan that we established probably 485 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:14,240 more than seven years ago. So your particular road um was planned to be 486 00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:19,920 paved this year. Uh but we put it off because of the water and sewer condition 487 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:25,520 on that road. So last year the town manager told us not to include that road 488 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:29,920 because of um future upgrades. Now I know it's really bad. We'll be up there. 489 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:36,960 We can probably do some repairs on it. Um but that was scheduled this year. 490 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:41,440 The our Brook Road was is going to be paved this year. I don't think that's 491 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:45,200 going to happen. But um but there is a road plan and your road was next for 492 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:49,200 this year actually this coming paving season but it's been put off because of 493 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:55,160 the condition of the the water and sewer on that road. So they want to don't want 494 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,160 to waste money on it. 495 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:11,920 » Good to know that. But I didn't know that. I mean, and I live there and I've 496 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:15,920 been there for 35 years. So, it's nice when the people who live on the road get 497 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,520 to find out about this. >> I would say don't hesitate to check with 498 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:22,000 Craig anytime during the year if you have any questions. 499 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:24,400 » How would I know? I mean, that's the thing. 500 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:29,680 » He's in charge. >> Yeah, he's good good to let people know 501 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:35,839 about this. The other thing is that I realize town and water is the water and 502 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:40,480 sewer is not an issue, but our our basement and the whole side lawn on our 503 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:50,079 our um house flood every year at springtime. 504 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:53,119 I mean flood. It's bad. And um I've been told I've been told that they were 505 00:43:52,240 --> 00:44:00,560 putting a >> they meaning who? 506 00:43:55,359 --> 00:44:06,000 uh the town or or the um assisted living up above us. We are they are literally 507 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,839 above us. They can see our house when we're there. 508 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,040 » I would say you probably should like maybe meet with the town manager or with 509 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,599 Craig or both. >> But this is kind of outside of this 510 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,000 meeting. Okay. >> But it would be nice to know what's 511 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,319 going on. >> Just ask anytime. 512 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,960 » Was there another question back there, Craig? Or everybody's all 513 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,960 » any other questions? 514 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:52,000 I'm Dick Ogden from uh Ashlin Alber. As a matter of fact, I'd like to make a 515 00:44:47,680 --> 00:45:00,000 amendment to article 18 to increase the uh highway budget by 95,000 516 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:04,960 to bring up to a total of 125. >> Wait a minute. What? We're talking the 517 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:08,480 bridge road and bridge capital reserve fund 518 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,400 » which is 30,000. You want to bring it up to what? 519 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,280 » To 125 total. Increase it by 95 which will bring it up 520 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,760 to Oh, he can hand me that piece of paper 521 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,640 if he has. >> Okay. 522 00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:21,599 » Okay. >> Do you have a second to your motion? 523 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:26,000 » Second. >> Okay. 524 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:31,520 » By Alan. Thanks, Dick. Sorry, I didn't miss. I didn't understand. 525 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,079 » You need his name on it. 526 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:39,920 » Yeah. >> There's an amendment to this article. 527 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:47,119 Should the town of Ashlin vote to raise and appropriate the sum of what's 125 528 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:51,040 » 125,000 >> to be deposited in the road and bridges 529 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:56,760 capital reserve fund established in 2013. This will require majority vote. 530 00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:02,640 I need a we got a second right? >> Yeah, we got a second from Okay. Any 531 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,440 discussion? >> No. 532 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,280 » No. >> I want I want a question. Can I ask a 533 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,400 question? >> You want to ask a question? 534 00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:14,800 » You want to ask? Yeah, this is discussion. You can ask a question, too. 535 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:19,280 » Shel from Thompson Street. I just want to know what the purpose of that 536 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:26,040 $100,000 is. Although we know what the $30,000 is for. I have no idea what that 537 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:26,040 100,000 is for. 538 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:42,319 So since 2013 that has been $125,000 every year. Last year it was 150 but for 539 00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:47,839 some reason the selectment decided to go to 30 this year. So they just cut it 540 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:52,680 down to 30. So it's ever since it's been in inception it's been at least 125,000. 541 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:01,280 » Any other questions or comments on the proposed 542 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:08,359 And just so everybody knows, if it stays at a 30,000, I can't pave a road this 543 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:08,359 year. I'd have to put put it off. 544 00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:16,079 » No. >> Any other questions or comments? 545 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,520 » I have a comment. >> Go ahead. 546 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:24,560 » Oh, my microphone. >> Um, Amanda, go 547 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:29,040 » ahead. 50,000. I don't know how 548 00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:33,839 » I have a comment. Um I can just say as the town check writer, uh Craig spends 549 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:39,280 that money >> it it it flushes out 550 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:43,920 » when when when he gets the money, he doesn't sit on it. It's spent. 551 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:47,400 » I don't know. I think she means that in a good way, Craig. 552 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,680 » Come to the mic. 553 00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:07,920 Yeah. >> Uh Dave Dave to uh Smith Hill Road. Um I 554 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:13,040 just wanted to say that um I was the one along with Steve Felton and other people 555 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:19,920 on the capital improvement plan who initially set the $125,000 556 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:26,160 uh amount for the capital reserve for Rose. And that was quite some time ago 557 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:32,960 now. We've been putting 125,000 in that account for years every year. And that 558 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:36,800 amount should have been increased, not decreased. 559 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:43,760 » Um the problem with roads, I think that most of you know, is um there's a period 560 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:48,640 of about 10 years where uh where the road is fine. After that, you need to 561 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:53,040 think about resurfacing it. If you wait too much longer than that, you've got to 562 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:59,920 completely repair the road and the expense goes up. Your expense for repair 563 00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:04,960 goes up um exponentially. >> So, we may be saving money in the short 564 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:09,920 run, but we will not be saving money in the long run. 565 00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:16,079 » I have a question >> or statement when it was brought to the 566 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:19,359 » microphone. I can yell 567 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,920 So when this was brought to the budget committee, it was brought to us. I mean, 568 00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:32,800 not the budget committee, sorry, the board of selectment. It was brought to 569 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:37,680 us at 30,000. We did not lower it. >> And my question is, what would that make 570 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:41,599 the tax impact be? >> Do we know that? 571 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:47,400 » Marissa's here. Ask her. >> Marissa, 572 00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:47,400 where is she? 573 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:56,720 Is Marissa back there, Craig? >> Probably 16 cents in the neighborhood 574 00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:01,160 about 25 cents somewhere around there. Three times three times higher. 575 00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:13,440 » I don't know how that changes. >> I think it's about 11 or 12 cents 576 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:18,160 usually, >> but seven right now at 30. So it'll be 577 00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:23,359 like three times >> be about 28 cents 578 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:30,240 » total. But yeah, it's it's Yeah. Okay. >> And I I I did not enter anything for 579 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,839 30,000. It's I entered it for 125 >> to the budget committee or to the board 580 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:37,599 of >> to the board of selectment. I'm not sure 581 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:43,000 why it get in there at 30. I'm not sure. >> When it came to us it was 30. I don't 582 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:53,440 » somebody's honest mistake. >> I'll take the microphone. 583 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:59,119 » Sorry. It's okay. So, what was the amount? 28. 584 00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:01,359 » It's going to move it up to 125. >> What is the tax impact? 585 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,720 » 28 cents. >> I have a question first. 586 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,079 » Okay. So, my comment is when we >> state your name so they know. 587 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:11,280 » Shall roll off. This is only my second year on the budget committee, so I'm 588 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:18,800 still learning and I appreciate all of these questions. So last year we asked 589 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:25,359 for 150,000, which was at the time a 33 cent um tax impact for roads and bridges 590 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:31,280 capital reserve. So this year if we go back to something like 125, 591 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:35,359 my comment is that seems reasonable to me. 592 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:41,760 » Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or comments, Bob? 593 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:47,599 » Uh, thank you. I I appreciate the information and uh I I understand what 594 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:55,280 the 100,000 score and if I recall correctly, uh Craig is is correct. Uh 595 00:51:51,680 --> 00:52:00,480 when we had the uh original reserve funds for that particular line 596 00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:05,280 item, it was always 125,000. So yes, I support that because we need to keep 597 00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:09,960 those roads up because if you don't do them, it gets worse. It costs more. 598 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:17,040 » Linda Barnes, Thompson Street. >> Wait till you get there. 599 00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:21,200 » Linda Barnes, Thompson Street. I'm the one whose dogs went missing a couple of 600 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:26,559 weeks ago. At least now they all have GPS trackers on their collars now and 601 00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:32,640 they're grounded for life. Um, I guess my question, you said, if I understood 602 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:38,400 correctly, that the request last year was for 150. And going back to the 603 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:43,359 comment about how costs go up continually, I guess I would float the 604 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:49,040 thought, why would we want to bring it back down given increased costs and the 605 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:55,760 need in the town? So I guess I would propose the friendly amendment that we 606 00:52:51,760 --> 00:53:02,400 keep it at the 150 if the tax cost for residents was 33 cents. 607 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:09,040 You know the tradeoff is our roads work and it gives more to the folks you know 608 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:13,520 doing the work to do repairs on sewers and all of that stuff but in the long 609 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:19,200 run benefits everyone. So I guess that would be proposing a friendly amendment 610 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:24,440 to the 125 for 150 going keeping it with what it was last year. 611 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,440 » Okay. 612 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:33,040 » Okay. So just to keep this simple, we have two options. Um we can either vote 613 00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:38,559 on the existing amendment and then you Linda may do an additional amendment or 614 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:42,920 Mr. Ogden may withdraw his existing amendment or amend it. 615 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,680 Yeah, >> I think everyone wants it in there. 616 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,920 » Just have them amend it. >> Amend it. 617 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,880 » Do you want to amend it, Dick, or just leave yours the way it is? 618 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,119 » Do you want to amend your motion to make it 150,000? 619 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,119 » Yes. >> Okay. Can he just do that? 620 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,640 » Yes. I'll take care of the pen work over here. 621 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:14,000 » Okay. We'll get you to do it in writing after. 622 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:18,480 » No, I got it. >> Okay. Oh, perfect. 623 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,040 » And that's 30%. >> I need a second on that. I assume 624 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:25,920 » I'll second. >> Okay, Michelle. Second it. 625 00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:32,720 Okay. So, now we have amended the existing amendment to be 150,000 instead 626 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:35,520 of 125,000. Did I see somebody with a question? 627 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,720 » Go ahead. >> What is the updated plan? 628 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:51,040 Lee Davis, Cottage Street. Um, I just have a question on the Highland Street 629 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:57,839 issue we were talking about a little while ago. Um, now Craig, you had told 630 00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:01,680 me two years ago that Cottage Street was going to get done and then it got pulled 631 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:06,160 out. Uh, now you're saying that it was supposed to be done this year and it's 632 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:13,599 getting pulled out um due to water and sewer. um issues. Um I worked for the 633 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:18,559 town water and sewer quite a few years ago and then I went to Meredith for 20 634 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:22,800 years. Um and the infrastructure, just a little history, the infrastructure was 635 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:28,720 done over in the town over 70% of it back around 30 years ago 636 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:34,640 when they got to Highland Street from coming up School Street. Uh the decision 637 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,800 was made to upgrade school streets water main and a hydrant at the bottom of this 638 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:43,280 driveway which there are probably less than six of those hydrants in this whole 639 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,359 state. That's a very high capacity main high-capacity hydrant. So that money 640 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,760 came out of what was going to go into Highland Street. So at the intersection 641 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:58,480 of School Street and Highland Street, everything above that was put on hold 642 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:04,000 and it's still on hold 28 years later. We still haven't developed a plan to re 643 00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:09,839 place the water and sewer on High Street, Cottage Street, Cottage Place, 644 00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:15,920 Summer Street, Spring Street, and we're still sitting here in this same 645 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,960 form. We haven't done anything. So, how many more years are we going to 646 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:24,480 put that off? >> You're looking at the oldest water man 647 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:29,520 in the town, 6 in. Some of the streets 2 in water man, some of the streets are 4 648 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:34,559 inch water man. And with sedimentation, tuberculation 649 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:38,400 » in my history of 24 years of doing this, you I'll bet you you don't have a 650 00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:42,240 two-inch hole in the middle of that pipe that water goes through. And all it's 651 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:46,000 going to take is tuberculation to break it loose from the walls of that pipe. 652 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:50,160 Plug it and then you're going to be doing an excavation and a dig. And then 653 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:56,640 what are we going to be doing? Bandating spot to spot to spot for another 28 654 00:56:52,559 --> 00:57:01,119 years. Let's stop putting this off and start figuring out a way to fix it. 655 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:07,000 » Thank you. >> Thanks, Lee. 656 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,000 » Would be. 657 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,880 » Any other questions or discussion? 658 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:15,760 » Do you have a motion to end debate? >> Motion. 659 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,760 » Second. >> Thank 660 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:28,400 you. will now vote on the amendment as presented which would change it to 661 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:32,079 $150,000. All those in favor of the amendment. 662 00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:35,880 » I. >> All those opposed? Nay. 663 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:45,280 We will now vote to place this article on the warrant as amended. All those in 664 00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:49,160 favor? I. >> All those opposed? Nay. 665 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:03,599 Article 19, building maintenance and and repair 666 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:08,920 capital reserve fund tax estimated tax impact 2 cents. Let's put this down 667 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,920 here. 668 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:18,319 Shall the town of Ashen vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $10,000 to be 669 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:24,079 deposited into the building maintenance and repair capital reserve fund for the 670 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:29,520 purpose of maintaining and repairing all town buildings. Majority vote required. 671 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:34,799 Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by the budget 672 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:38,960 committee 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move it to the floor? Motion. Motion 673 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:41,520 to move forward. >> Second. 674 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:45,640 » Seconded. >> Any discussion on this article? 675 00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:54,720 » There being no discussion, we will vote to place this article on the warrant as 676 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:59,000 written. All those in favor? I >> I 677 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,000 » oppose. Okay. 678 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:09,119 Article 20 compensated leave trust fund capital 679 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:15,680 reserve fund. Estimated tax impact 1 cent. to the town of Ashlin vote to 680 00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:20,960 raise and appropriate the sum of $5,000 to be deposited into the compensated 681 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:27,440 leave trust fund capital reserve fund established in 2022 for the purpose of 682 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:34,319 fully funding employee leave benefits overtime. Majority vote required. 683 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:38,799 » Oh, major benefits overtime. Recommended by the board of selectmen. Five to zero. 684 00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:42,160 Recommended by the budget committee. Six to zero. 685 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:46,319 » Do I have someone to move the question to the floor? 686 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,480 » David. >> Second. Michelle. 687 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:54,760 » Second. >> Michelle. 688 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,760 Any discussion on article 20? 689 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:07,559 We will vote to move article 20 to the warrant as written. Those in favor I. 690 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,559 » Those opposed, nay. 691 01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:20,160 Article 21, lease station capital reserve fund. 692 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:26,000 Estimated tax impact 44 cents. to see if the town of Ashen will vote to raise and 693 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:30,960 appropriate the sum of 200,000 to be added to the police department police 694 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:38,079 station capital reserve fund established in 2024 for the purpose of purchasing or 695 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:43,359 constructing a police station recommended by the board of selectmen 696 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:48,799 4:1 recommended by the budget committee 5 to one do you have a motion to move 697 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:51,359 the question to the floor Linda 698 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,799 Second. >> Second, 699 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:59,799 » Michelle. Any questions or discussion on article 700 01:00:56,799 --> 01:00:59,799 21? 701 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,480 You got a question back there? You have to come up to the mic. There's one back 702 01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,839 there, too. Go ahead. And then he can go behind you. 703 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:13,680 » Yeah. Hugh again. Hi. So, is that 200,000 704 01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:18,000 going to be is that for the actual acquisition of a building in a new place 705 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:21,440 in the police department or because it doesn't seem like enough. 706 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:26,160 » No, it's going into the capital reserve fund 707 01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:30,359 » to start until >> right 708 01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:30,359 » when they want to use it. 709 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:44,160 » Thank you. Um so the capital reserve funds um again are just a way of us not 710 01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:48,400 getting hit with extremely high h tax bills every three years, two years, 711 01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:52,799 seven years for different projects. So instead of coming and I agree 200,000 712 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:59,520 you ain't going to do it. Um but instead of being hit with a $1 million CRF that 713 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:05,440 ups our you know that's going to be something like a $5.50 per thousand you 714 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:09,680 know hit. Uh we do begin to acrue the money. Now, having said that, we've 715 01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:15,839 already made I can already say I've written a few checks from that CRF that 716 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:20,160 have to do with um that uh oh gosh, one I think it was an architect to look at 717 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:25,040 it. Yeah, thank you so much, Ron. Um could clarify that because I between my 718 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:29,359 own checks and the town checks and the church's checks, I just write checks. Um 719 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:34,480 but uh knowing that the money is there and it's being used as it was approved 720 01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:38,559 for. Um, but anyway, this not it it may not be sitting there for quite as long 721 01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:42,720 as you think because unfortunately in the building world and in the planning 722 01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:46,160 world 200 grand can go fairly quickly or more quickly than we would like it to. 723 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,599 So, >> thanks Amanda. Was there a question in 724 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:53,079 the back? >> Oh, he's gone. 725 01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:02,240 » Hi, Rick Pere on the road. I just want to make a comment. First of all, I'm all 726 01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:05,760 about capital reserve putting money away because just for the simple fact that we 727 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:09,040 do get hit every once more for a big one. But we need to be very careful 728 01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:13,040 here. What we're doing is we'll just take this one, excuse me, just take this 729 01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:16,319 one page that we started out at $105,000. We just doubled it, 730 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,839 » right? >> Literally just doubled that amount right 731 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:24,799 there. And that and that's what happens at these meetings. All everybody has an 732 01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:29,920 agenda. I'm all about fire safety, etc., etc. But, you know, we're we're it 733 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:34,000 almost appears that we're double dipping on a couple of these. I'd like to know 734 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:38,480 the difference between obviously road improvement is very easy to define, but 735 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:43,760 you come down here to public works. Do those two funds intermingle themselves 736 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:48,079 or is an opportunity to two intermingle them so that one line isn't larger than 737 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:52,240 the other? Obviously, we're getting a little bit out of control here in my 738 01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:58,160 mind. You know, we're forcing a bill on the This is not a good time to be 739 01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:02,400 banging our residents, our taxpayers for an additional funds. We need to tighten 740 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:06,400 the belt just a little. Not not not wanting to go backwards, but a 741 01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:09,440 controlled forward motion is more of an appropriate time at this time. Thank 742 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:14,160 you. >> Thanks, 743 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:16,960 man. Did you have an answer for that? Thank you. 744 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:21,839 » A bit of an answer. >> Sure. 745 01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:25,599 » Sure. So, I can just say that um without having because I did research when I 746 01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:30,240 became a trustee of the trust funds 2020 and I have it on my home computer 747 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:35,280 naturally. I went through all of the the town reports going back and I found when 748 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:39,039 we voted on these things and what the verbiage was and I cut and pasted it and 749 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:44,240 I've got it all. So having said that I can just say from experience that the 750 01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:49,680 DPW for example those funds are used to buy are usually in my experience in the 751 01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:56,000 past six years have been to um buy trucks for DPW and things like that. Uh 752 01:04:53,200 --> 01:05:02,160 whereas the road improvement even though Craig is doing road improvement those 753 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:07,280 funds for the asphalt and for the materials needed for stuff like that um 754 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:12,799 are coming out of a different fund. So, they're really pretty much apples and 755 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:19,599 oranges. And again, as even though we have a lot of funds, um it's in our best 756 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:25,359 interest to have a lot of funds because that again puts uh more specific 757 01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:31,280 verbiage on exactly what that money can be used for. So when you vote as you 758 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:35,520 know we will uh to either increase or not increase you know give you know 759 01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:41,359 putting amounts in these different funds you can rest assured that those funds 760 01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:48,160 can only be used for that purpose unless revisited by the town on a warrant 761 01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:53,319 article at another election. So does that help out answer it? Okay, 762 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,319 thank you. 763 01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:58,839 » Uh Bobo again. 764 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:08,880 » I just I just want to let everybody know as some of you probably know I was a 765 01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:14,559 selectman here six years ago for three years and this particular issue was a 766 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:19,280 high priority for us back then. And when we were talking about 767 01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:24,319 building a transa energy plant to raise funds for the town, that was one of the 768 01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:29,520 main reasons is that the infrastructure in towns is getting corrupted and it's 769 01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:36,640 going to be expensive. We're seeing that those expenses coming through. Now, 770 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:41,200 when it comes to the police department, we've been told by the insurance company 771 01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:47,599 that ensures this town that we are non-compliant, the state law or any law 772 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:52,079 in the in the way that police station is at the town hall. It's completely 773 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:57,039 unacceptable and it needs to be taken care of or we 774 01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:05,280 could lose our insurance at a tremendous liability. tremendous. 775 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:10,480 We can be sued by people who are incarcerated there because there is no 776 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:14,720 no jail cell there. They get chained to a desk 777 01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:18,079 » that's almost un inhuman >> handcuffed 778 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:24,799 » and the safety for the officers >> is paramount. So when you have violent 779 01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:30,400 criminals chained to a desk in a small room and you have officers trying to 780 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:35,839 write reports, you have an issue. >> Police department needs to be we need to 781 01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:41,200 have a police department. I had recommended years ago that we would 782 01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:46,480 build the safety center club and put the police department, town hall and the 783 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:51,520 fire department all in one building. But that all got shut down. But just so you 784 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:56,319 know where we are and why we're there, it's a lot of money, but it could get a 785 01:07:53,680 --> 01:08:00,480 lot worse. And I'm sorry to have to give you that bad news, but that's the facts. 786 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:04,559 Thank you. >> Thank you, Bob. 787 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:07,920 » I think it's actually handcuffs, not >> on the on the Bob. 788 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,359 » Not working. >> No, on the stand. Squeeze the trigger. 789 01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:15,520 There you go. >> Linda, did you have a question? 790 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:21,839 » Yeah. Linda Barnes, stops the street again. I um I really hear about let's 791 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:25,600 not keep upping tax bills. On the other hand, just for a little context, and 792 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:30,880 this is building on what Bob was saying, the police department has been operating 793 01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:37,279 within really substandard conditions for a really long time 794 01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:40,239 and without sort of the money to buy something. And you know, at least since 795 01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:44,319 I've been in Ashland, there's been discussion they need a new building. 796 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:47,359 They need something improved. They need something that's up to current 797 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:53,279 standards. And Bob is adding the variable of insurance. And I guess, you 798 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:56,799 know, at the risk of being, you know, if I look at this correctly, and Amanda, 799 01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:01,440 correct me if I'm wrong, the current department building fund is not quite 800 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:07,359 $20,000. >> You can't buy squat for never mind 200. 801 01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:12,880 I guess, you know, to keep asking the police department to wait year after 802 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:19,839 year after year after year to provide them with adequate facilities. I guess I 803 01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:24,880 would float the question for discussion is 200. You know, clearly we can't ask 804 01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:30,640 to set aside half a million. I get that. but maybe 300,000 805 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:34,960 just because, you know, to have to to have a fund that grows a little more 806 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:39,759 quickly and to give the message to the police department that we really do 807 01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:43,440 support getting them adequate facilities and we're not trying to nickel and dime 808 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:47,199 them as >> putting up with substandard facilities. 809 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:52,719 And I'm going to say I may get accused of, you know, increased spending. And 810 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:57,360 yes, I'm a Democrat, but I do in this case 811 01:09:54,320 --> 01:10:00,080 talking about defunding the police. >> Linda, are you proposing an amendment to 812 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:05,199 the article? >> Uh, sure. I'm going to propose an 813 01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:09,840 amendment that instead of 200,000, we talked 300,000. 814 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:13,280 I'm open to amending, you know, anybody wanting to amend that. But I just think 815 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:17,280 it's really important to give the police department as well as the town the 816 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:20,320 message that we support they're having what they need to do their work. 817 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,600 » Linda, you need to come up here and do that in writing, please. 818 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,600 » Do I have a second to her proposed amendment? 819 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:36,000 » So second question on that. >> Wait a minute. Wait, please. 820 01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:41,120 » If there's no second, what happens? No motion. No motion. 821 01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:46,640 » Okay. Go ahead. >> Hi, uh Hugh again. Um I'm just trying to 822 01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:51,199 understand something here. Um so if we want to build another police uh another 823 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:55,520 building, have another building for the police department, whatever, and that's 824 01:10:53,679 --> 01:10:59,360 been talked about for a long time. So if we all think that's a good idea, then 825 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:05,600 that's a great idea. I'm trying to understand these capital reserve funds 826 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:10,159 seem to be in my mind something about you know the year-to-year operations of 827 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:14,400 things you know you're anticipating a cost to do something you know you're 828 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:19,280 talking about road repair and all that good stuff but so for police you know 829 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:23,199 say we want to put up a new police uh building which I think would be good 830 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:29,120 thing based on I've never been in the police station but I I hear that it's 831 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:34,000 not such a great thing right okay So, if we want to do that, 832 01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:37,600 I don't understand this thing about, oh, we're going to fund this capital reserve 833 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:42,480 thing. It seems like a a plan that's like, okay, we need to put in a 834 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:47,840 building. Let's go for it. Um, this is what you think it's going to cost, you 835 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:52,239 know, and start um funding for that because these capital reserves, like the 836 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:57,440 way this thing is written, it says that that $200,000 is to put up a new 837 01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:01,360 building and and nothing else, right? Is that what that's for? 838 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,280 » I mean, can that account comp be used for anything else with the police 839 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:11,600 department? >> It can only be used to to either to look 840 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:16,080 into getting to building a new one or buying a an existing building and 841 01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:21,600 turning it into that. It can't be used to buy a police car. It cannot be used 842 01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:27,520 to fund another police officer. It can only be used for for what has to do with 843 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:33,280 if building or getting I don't want to keep saying building because it has to 844 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:38,640 do with getting a new police uh uh station which may or may mean buying an 845 01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:42,640 existing building and having that redone inside because they don't come with jail 846 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,920 cells and whatnot that they need. But but it can't be used for anything else. 847 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,880 Okay. >> Except that. 848 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:53,520 » All right then. Good. Then >> does that help? Okay. 849 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,679 But again though, it's a long-term thing. That's not going to happen 850 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,960 overnight, right? >> Well, they've been exploring it for 851 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:02,800 years, and the point is to kind of be ready when when they finally find the 852 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:03,679 ideal property that we won't have a huge hit. 853 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,520 » Okay. >> Okay. Does that help? 854 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,520 » Sure. >> Okay. 855 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:16,400 » I can speak to it if Okay, >> we'll let him go. 856 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:21,120 » Dick Carter for Carv. Um, I mean, I I think we need a new police station. Um 857 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:26,880 my concern is though if we're not getting any interest basically on on 858 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:31,760 this reserve fund uh we're putting a lot of money in there 859 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:36,080 that's not acrewing anything. Um and that you know so what you 860 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:43,760 expressed that I do you know I do have that concern. Um so I mean maybe we 861 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:47,040 should consider or keep in mind you know we don't want to get a big hit and 862 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:50,719 everybody you know freaks out when that happens. 863 01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:57,199 But if it needs to be done, it needs to be done. And I think to simply put a lot 864 01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:00,719 of money into the reserve fund, these reserve funds without any interest being 865 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:05,199 acrewed. >> Well, there is interest, but it is 866 01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:10,880 minimal. But that's that's again where we are obligated to follow the laws. 867 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:15,760 » No, no, I do understand that. I appreciate that. But I still have that 868 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:19,600 concern that we're putting all this money into reserve funds and not getting 869 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:25,760 anything out of it. >> So unless any station, you know, maybe 870 01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:30,560 we just have to bite the bullet point >> uh and do what needs to be done. But I, 871 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:35,040 you know, we have a over a million or close to a million dollars already in 872 01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:40,480 reserve funds. uh as you hope you can follow up on you know possibilities 873 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:44,159 uh >> accounts savings 874 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:48,960 » that wasn't for me >> uh so anyhow for whatever that's worth 875 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:55,679 my thoughts >> thank you Bob did you have a question 876 01:14:54,159 --> 01:15:01,120 » yeah I don't want to beat this trust to death but uh 877 01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:08,159 if she raises the 300,000 there's a a larger chance at won't pass 878 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:13,040 in March elections. So, I I think it'd be a risky move to move it up to 879 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:18,000 300,000. The purpose of the 200,000 is specific. Uh they need the money to be 880 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:24,560 able to do engineering and structural design. Then, as a town, we can go 881 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:28,480 forward and ask for grants from the federal government and the state 882 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:33,280 government to help us build. And then, at the end, we have to get a bond to 883 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:36,880 build the police station. It'll be in the millions. It won't be it won't be 884 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:41,440 cheap. This 200,000 is just the beginning, but it has to be done and 885 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:45,760 you're going to have to build a building and it's going to have to be bonded and 886 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:50,480 it'll be over, you know, a 20 or 30 year period. So, it won't be a huge impact. 887 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:55,360 But in order to get started, you have to have seed money. That's what this is. 888 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:59,840 Hopefully, you understand where I'm coming from. this the money that they 889 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:04,960 put in this warrant out was for this specific purpose and they figured this 890 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:11,040 is what they needed and I appreciate your your effort but I think it's a 891 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:15,920 danger of losing it in the election and they go in another year with no no 892 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:19,920 movement on the police station which is paramount it should be 893 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:26,239 one of the things I know about government it has several duties fire 894 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:30,560 police ambulances schools. Those are the things we need to 895 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:36,560 support. This is our community. This is what we do. Thank you. 896 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:40,280 » Do I have a second to Linda's motion to amend this to 300,000? 897 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:48,400 » You can. >> Um Bob's explanation has clarified. I 898 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:53,360 was under the impression that it was 200 this year and then another 200 next 899 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:57,040 year. Um I'm willing to withdraw the motion based on the 900 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,480 pardon me. >> We don't know that yet. 901 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:06,080 » But but what you're saying is this would be starter money that we then could 902 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:10,000 bring in other money for. Based on that, I'm fine with withdrawing the motion. I 903 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,640 just want to make sure that we're doing it in a way that allows it really to 904 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:18,920 move ahead. >> Thanks on this. 905 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,920 » Any more questions or comments? 906 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:31,600 Hi, I'm uh Steve Elton from Depot Street Nation. I just wanted to I used to be on 907 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:37,360 the select board in the 2014 area and I'm trying it again. But uh one of the 908 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:41,520 things I wanted to talk about is just a little bit on capital reserve since we 909 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:46,640 talked so much about it. When I was involved a number of years ago, believe 910 01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:51,040 it or not, there was one capital reserve account in the entire town and it had 911 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:56,159 $10,000 in it. So, we started put putting together the 912 01:17:53,120 --> 01:18:03,920 idea of capital reserves back in about 2012, 2013, excuse me. That's when it 913 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:08,320 started. And it the purpose of it is, as everyone said, it's it's designed for 914 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:13,120 specific reasons and you build it up over time. Another piece of that that's 915 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:17,360 very important that I know we had then and I think we have now as well is 916 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:22,560 something called the CIP. And that's a capital improvement program committee. 917 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:27,920 And what that's supposed to do is as you look at whether it's roads or police or 918 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:31,920 whatever, you you literally put together Excel spreadsheets and determine what 919 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:36,560 the needs are over a 10 or 15 year period and you lay that out there so 920 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:41,760 that you can kind of figure out what do I need in capital reserves over the over 921 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:46,159 a period of time so that it evens the taxes out over a period of time as 922 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:51,120 opposed to saying, "Hey, guess what? I need a million dollars for this. So, 923 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:57,440 this is a combination of the capital reserves and the CIP 924 01:18:53,440 --> 01:19:03,280 help the town manage the expenses over a longer period of time. So that's I 925 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:07,360 that's kind of what is I think being done now and it's and it's a very 926 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:11,920 important part of it and I do agree that if we could get more interest that would 927 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:17,920 definitely be well but you to the point made we have to stay within the confines 928 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:23,120 of what the state will allow but those two things get married up very closely 929 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:28,080 capital reserves capital improvement those two things to go together and 930 01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:32,400 that's how you you know that's how you project your spending over the next 10 931 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:37,040 or 20 years. And the last piece I'll say is another thing that you saw and 932 01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:43,600 mentioned today is the idea of the master plan. There was an initial master 933 01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:48,560 plan done in 2010. So this is to update that and the master plan is like the big 934 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:54,480 umbrella that this is what we want to be and then you go into capital reserve CIP 935 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:59,760 and when you do that kind of thing it's much easier to go to state federal and 936 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:03,679 regional offices and ask for grants because they know your town has it 937 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:09,199 together you got the capital reserve you got astra plan you get a CIP plan so 938 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:12,320 they feel comfortable in giving the more comfortable in giving 939 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:17,040 the grants because you displayed that you have a 940 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:21,920 long-term plan that they think makes sense. So that's it. 941 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:26,120 » Thanks. >> Any other comments or questions? 942 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:35,920 » Question second. >> I'm sorry. Do you want question? 943 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:38,920 » A quick comment. Um, 944 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:47,600 uh, Dave To from, uh, Smith wrote, uh, you may not be getting a lot of interest 945 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:53,280 on those funds, but when you buy things for cash and you don't have to take a 946 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:58,960 loan out, you save the interest payments on there. And and a lot of that is more 947 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:06,159 than you would ever get from the bank in the first place or or an investment. So, 948 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:07,840 um, it's it's not a complete wash, >> right? 949 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:11,159 » Good job. >> Thanks, D. 950 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,520 Have >> a second. Bob Luma move the question. 951 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,080 All those in favor of ending debate say I. 952 01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:25,600 » I. >> All those opposed, nay. 953 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:32,480 All those in favor of moving this warrant article 21 to to the warrant as 954 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:38,080 written. signify by saying I. >> I. 955 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:45,199 » Those opposed, nay. Why is that? Article 22. Estimated tax impact 11 956 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:51,840 cents to see if the town of Ashen will vote to raise and appropriate $100,000 957 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:59,440 for the purpose purpose of developing a comprehensive plan to redevelop the town 958 01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:04,960 of Ashen waterfront beach area. $50,000 to come from grant funds. Majority vote 959 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:10,960 required. Recommended by the board of selectmen four to one. Recommended by 960 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:13,920 the budget committee 5 to one. >> Do I have anyone to move the question to 961 01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:19,840 the floor? >> Yes. 962 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:23,960 » David's going to question second. And >> any discussion on this article? 963 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,400 What's a form? 964 01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:37,920 » Jen, Charlie, somebody want to address that? 965 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,199 » Oh, >> who's on the economic conference? 966 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:45,080 » I can't I Okay. Okay. What? >> Could you get the mic, please? 967 01:22:50,400 --> 01:23:02,719 » Hi. Um the economic development um committee was able to get a northern 968 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:09,840 borders grant to spur economic development in town to do a 969 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:17,360 revitalization to start the revitalization of the town beach. What 970 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:24,000 this will do is the town is required through dees to have um an engineer take 971 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:27,840 a look to tell us what the town can do. We've gotten, you know, people have told 972 01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:32,880 us they'd like the beach back because the beach isn't there anymore. It needs 973 01:23:29,679 --> 01:23:36,400 a new bath house. Um but we can't do anything without getting approval from 974 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:42,159 the Department of Environmental Services. And so they said we need to 975 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:49,199 probably hire a hydraologist and to tell us and then from that we will get 976 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:56,960 hopefully an approval from dees to do certain adjustments to the beach. Um 977 01:23:54,159 --> 01:24:00,320 » Jen just to clarify this is just for a study. This is not has it doesn't have 978 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:05,920 anything to do with the actual work. >> No what the expectation is this is the 979 01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:10,320 study. So a there's been some conceptual plans but one has not been created 980 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:17,600 because we have to find out from dees what we can do and so we'll get the the 981 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:23,600 restrictions or whatever from dees or what we can and so then after that there 982 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:28,639 will be next year probably back here again with the plan of what we want to 983 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:34,080 do with the beach. Now, just so everybody knows, there there it's um 984 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:36,880 $100,000 grant. >> $50,000. 985 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:42,719 » The grant is 50, correct? >> No. Well, it's $100,000. 986 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:50,239 Raise and appropriate $100,000. 50,000 is coming would come from the 987 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:57,280 state as a grant. The other 50,000 needs to be raised locally through a 988 01:24:53,040 --> 01:25:03,280 combination of inind volunteer services and funds. So that's what that 11 cents 989 01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:11,199 for is for. But what the committee has started doing in their hope, their goal 990 01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:19,679 is to raise those funds through donations. And so far, um, we have 4,000 991 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:26,639 in pledges and, um, we are hoping to be able to to get all the funds needed that 992 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:34,000 way without hitting the, um, tax rate. But to accept to be able to get the 993 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:38,480 grant, the town has to guarantee that the funding will be there. So that's why 994 01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:41,679 there is an 11 cents on there. If we're not able to raise, 995 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:45,120 » does the town actually have to expend 50,000 first before you get the 50,000 996 01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:51,360 grant? >> No. No. We have to approve this warrant 997 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:55,199 article saying that if there is the need for the town to provide that match that 998 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:59,280 they will >> Okay. 999 01:25:55,679 --> 01:26:02,159 » Does that make sense to people? >> It's usually the opposite. That's why 1000 01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:05,360 I'm I'm surprised. Usually grant money is you have to pay your share first, 1001 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:09,760 then the grant money kicks in. That's why I'm questioning. 1002 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:17,679 » Okay. Well, is that the requirements of the G grant, we can't really raise any 1003 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:24,400 of that money until we get a a yay vote on this article. So, we cannot book any 1004 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:30,800 um volunteer time and we're only asking for pledges at this point. We cannot 1005 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:34,159 collect any money until we actually >> and the money will go into the general 1006 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:37,679 fund or does the economic council have it? 1007 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:41,520 » Ron is managing Ron manages the grant. >> Ron Ron manages, 1008 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:46,000 » right? But if we So where would this fund go though? If we if you get this 1009 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:49,840 100,000, >> do does it go into the general fund? Is 1010 01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:53,280 it from the general fund or does the economic council have its own budget? 1011 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:57,600 » We do not have a budget. the economic development come is is we have no we 1012 01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:01,199 have no power whatsoever. So >> So any pledges that are paid after this 1013 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:04,800 is approved goes into the general fund until it's used. 1014 01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:06,320 » Ron has a folder of pledges. >> Yes. 1015 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:10,920 » So it's >> I just want people to know where the 1016 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,920 funds are going. 1017 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:18,440 » Charlie wants Charlie. 1018 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:27,679 » Yeah. Yeah, Carter again. I just uh trying to 1019 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:32,560 understand so do we have to raise a h 100,000 to get to 50,000 we have to 1020 01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:37,199 raise 50,000 and then we get the matching 1021 01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:39,920 » yes so first on 1022 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:45,920 » in order in order to spend money on this project if it's approved by the voters 1023 01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:52,239 we have to in the language be authorized to spend $100,000 but 1024 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:56,320 50,000 of that is being reimbursed to us from the grant 1025 01:27:53,920 --> 01:28:01,840 If it was only written for 50,000, we could only spend 50,000. 1026 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:05,120 But the grant is for 100,000. We're going to write checks out of the 1027 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:12,239 general operating fund to pay the bills. Then the grant reimbures us. It's a 1028 01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:18,480 50/50 match. So if if we only spend $50,000 to accomplish the task, 1029 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:23,440 we would pay 25 and the grant would pay 25. If we spend a hundred, 1030 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:28,080 » we pay 50. The grant pays 50. >> Okay. 1031 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:32,560 » If if I could just uh Charlie Bazelle, if I could just expand on some of the 1032 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:38,560 things Jenny said a minute that it's important to understand that we have a 1033 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:47,440 hydraulics issue at that beach that um has been an issue for over a decade and 1034 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:53,199 that's erosion. The sand in the past has been washing off the beach and down into 1035 01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:58,800 the river. Double problem. The sand leaves the beach, clogs the river. The 1036 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:06,480 perch beach structure that you see there now um was intended as a a solution to 1037 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:11,199 that at least to minimize the erosion. Turns out that you know there's still 1038 01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:16,159 sand going down the river is unrelated to the beach at this point. Uh also 1039 01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:20,400 there's been improvements to the the drainage which in the past contributed 1040 01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:25,280 to the problem. Uh the drain the drainage coming down the hill, you know, 1041 01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:30,719 actually coming across the beach and and washing the sand away. That's what's 1042 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:35,440 keeping that beach from being developed into what I think most people would 1043 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:42,000 describe as something more attractive, easier to use. Meaning basically the 1044 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:47,600 traditional type of sloped sand beach where um you don't have to worry about 1045 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:53,440 children falling falling off the wall. um you know and you could use the full 1046 01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:59,199 waterfront for bathing sun you know sitting in the sun or whatever uh you 1047 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:05,280 wanted to enjoy and the the Northern Borders regional conference that has 1048 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:11,199 offered us this this grant looked at it and said you know we're in the business 1049 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:16,239 of promoting economic development. We don't just think that this could be a 1050 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:20,480 nicer beach. we we think it could be an economic attraction. You know, we we 1051 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:26,080 think that, you know, that it it could be a regional uh asset and that it it 1052 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:32,800 would attract people because those of you who know the location and have seen 1053 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:39,679 it u it it's fairly exceptional. It has the potential of being a beautiful beach 1054 01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:47,280 uh as well as hosting winter activities. Uh so the the intent here is to make 1055 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:53,760 something that contributes value to our town and uh you know it it's not not the 1056 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:58,800 be all and end all but it's a good start because I I think that this this this 1057 01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:03,520 beach could be an attractive uh feature of the town if we get together and 1058 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:07,120 develop it. As Jenny's pointing out, you know, already we don't have to raise 1059 01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:12,560 50,000. We have pledges for four. So, we're down to 46 and and hoping that uh 1060 01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:17,600 we'll do better. And we actually don't know what the expenditure will be. Um 1061 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:21,280 you know, we we can spend up to the 100,000. It may turn out that the 1062 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:26,639 engineering studies and things we need to satisfy dees before we can move 1063 01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:31,679 anything forward. They they want that they want the hydraulics problem fixed. 1064 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:35,760 They they don't want erosion of sand on the beach. And to the extent that we can 1065 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:41,280 contribute to stopping the sand going going down the Squam River, um that 1066 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:44,639 that's a win for everybody. So I I would encourage people to consider this 1067 01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:51,120 carefully because I think the town is going to benefit from this. 1068 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:55,080 » Any other questions or comments? >> Go in the background first. 1069 01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:10,080 Hi, my name is Jonathan. I live on Seven Double Head Road on top off of Le Hill. 1070 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:17,679 Um, I just want to say something about the pledge money. Um, we were currently 1071 01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:26,880 at 4,000. We just got another thousand. >> Oh. So, anytime anyone would care to 1072 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:33,600 pledge anything, 25 bucks, $10, it would help. Also, there's grant money 1073 01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:39,360 available once we get to the point of doing this. So, 1074 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:44,719 yes, we're the the idea of the committee is that we don't want to charge we don't 1075 01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:47,920 want to put this on the taxpayers. We want to come up with the money 1076 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:53,239 ourselves. So that's what I have to say. 1077 01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:53,239 » Thanks. 1078 01:32:53,440 --> 01:33:02,719 Just sorry friends. Go ahead Bob. >> Thank you. Bob Turner Thompson Street 1079 01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:07,520 again. Sorry. Um >> don't be sorry. 1080 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:11,440 » To your question. I'll ask where's this money going to go? 1081 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:17,360 You have an account for this? >> We'll set up an account. Well, why 1082 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:21,679 didn't you why wasn't a capital reserve fund included in this war article sort 1083 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:27,440 of that money would go into a place that's specific for that purpose only? 1084 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:33,840 Because it'll be a lapsing account. So once once we've completed the process, 1085 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:40,000 any of the funds that was raised and appropriated through taxation, if we 1086 01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:44,480 only spent 40,000, that 10,000 remaining would go into unreserved fund balance. 1087 01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:48,560 Whereas if you leave it in a CRF, it's just going to sit there and sit there 1088 01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:50,880 until you till you expend it. We didn't we didn't 1089 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:54,480 » assume that this town beach is going to need some work done. 1090 01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:59,360 » Well, yeah, true. But that that's what was asked of us was to write a warrant 1091 01:33:56,719 --> 01:34:03,679 article for this. >> I think that, you know, to make 1092 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:08,719 everybody happy, at least make me happy, that you have a special account for that 1093 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:13,600 money only for that specific purpose for spending. So it can't be dragged through 1094 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:17,679 other accounts. That's the way you do everything else. We get 1095 01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:21,679 » Yeah. But the Warren article is specific and that those funds raised will only be 1096 01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:25,440 spent on that. >> And what is not spent will go back into 1097 01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:28,719 the unreserved fund balance. >> But you're going to manage it through 1098 01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:32,400 the general fund >> as a line in the budget. 1099 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,960 » I don't like that. >> It's short term too, right? I mean, the 1100 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:39,000 hope is Yeah. >> this year. Yeah. 1101 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,000 » Right. 1102 01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:46,440 Oh, not me. >> Come on, Frank. Come on down. 1103 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:53,120 » You can do it. >> Fran Newton Smith Hill Road. I just want 1104 01:34:50,719 --> 01:34:59,199 to emphasize that this is a feasibility study. There've been been maps out there 1105 01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:04,400 of the new concept at the beach. That is not the plan. There is no plan. This is 1106 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:09,679 a feasibility to find out what we can do. Once we find out what we can do and 1107 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:12,880 what we can't do, then we can decide to set up a CRF for beach improvements if 1108 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,840 if >> correct 1109 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:19,920 » they need to be done. But there's so much misinformation and rumors out there 1110 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:24,560 that you've got to ignore. This is a feasibility study only and really 1111 01:35:22,719 --> 01:35:27,520 important. >> Thanks. 1112 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:33,679 » Amanda, did you have a comment? >> Yeah. Um, so just really quickly, if 1113 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:38,880 this were to become a CRF on the ballot this year, um, that means that as Ron 1114 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:46,159 pointed out, any funds that we don't spend, um, would again languish in this 1115 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:49,920 CRF until we came to a town u deliberative session again and we had a 1116 01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:54,560 warrant article that said we could now take the funds that are in here and 1117 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:59,840 rename it to this and then we would have to put the verb because because again 1118 01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:03,679 CRFs can only be spent for what they are voted on and that means that this is 1119 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:07,040 voted for a feasibility study then you know you can't do any improvements with 1120 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:11,760 it. That's it. And so we do have I think if you notice on the um list property 1121 01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:15,440 tax map I think it's $9.80 or something like that and maybe it's up to $10 by 1122 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:20,080 now but that seems like ridiculous but that's something that will be funded 1123 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:26,199 again because unfortunately property tax maps must be revisited. 1124 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:26,199 » Thank you. 1125 01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:36,080 Uh, Zack Harper, uh, Sandborn Road. So, I'm hearing that we need a new police 1126 01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:40,320 station, new roads, new pipes. Maybe a beach isn't a priority right now and 1127 01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:45,280 maybe we could, you know, revisit this in the future when we have less pressing 1128 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:50,080 matters. Um, I personally having to make a lot of cuts at home. I've got a young 1129 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:54,000 family. It's pretty tough right now. So, to keep adding more stuff and more stuff 1130 01:36:52,320 --> 01:37:00,960 and Yeah, everybody needs more stuff. I get it. I'm there with you guys, but I 1131 01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:05,280 don't have time to go to the beach. Um, maybe it's not a priority right now. 1132 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:09,920 » And even even getting grant money, that that's tax money. Grants come from 1133 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:17,679 taxes. I don't know why everybody thinks that's free money. It's still out of our 1134 01:37:12,639 --> 01:37:21,679 pockets. So, I mean, not super super important to me right now. Uh, if we 1135 01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:25,199 want to raise some money and donate, maybe we start doing that for the police 1136 01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:25,920 station. Great. 1137 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,920 » Thank you. >> Thanks. 1138 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:44,000 » Hi, G. Garren Flores, double head road. >> Can you say your first name again? 1139 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:51,040 » Gayla or Gayla. >> G A L A. 1140 01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:58,080 I guess first to your question about whether or not this will go into 1141 01:37:53,920 --> 01:38:04,159 the capital reserve fund or not. I guess respectfully it sounds like 1142 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:08,080 there's transparency in the process and we will know at all times what's 1143 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,560 happening to this money. >> Y 1144 01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:17,199 » So again, respectfully, I just think that 1145 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:22,800 that's a nonissue. If your problem or if your issue is that 1146 01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:27,760 there seems to be non-transparency, I I don't see an issue with that here. This 1147 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:33,679 is transparent. Money goes in to a specific place, there's a line item, you 1148 01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:39,679 know what happens to it. And I guess second with respect to the most with the 1149 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:44,159 previous comment about grant money being tax money 1150 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:49,920 uh this isn't a zero- sum game. 1151 01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:53,119 This grant money is available to this project 1152 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:58,560 and yes, I understand that everyone has hard 1153 01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:03,440 times right now and there are other priorities which in fact are being taken 1154 01:39:01,119 --> 01:39:09,440 care of in all of the other warrant articles. 1155 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:14,239 This is also something that people need even in times of need. What Ashland 1156 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:19,600 actually needs is something that attracts 1157 01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:24,960 more opportunity to this area 1158 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:30,480 so that in future sessions we're not talking about raising our taxes for 1159 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:35,199 everything that we need because there's more people contributing to the taxes. 1160 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:42,520 There's more businesses contributing to the taxes. 1161 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:42,520 So yes, I understand that 1162 01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:53,280 building back a beach to maybe what its previous glory 1163 01:39:49,600 --> 01:40:01,040 was or what it can be sounds like an item that's excessive. 1164 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:05,600 But if anything, it sounds like there's a through line here. The through 1165 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:11,040 line here is that we haven't been doing long-term 1166 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:16,000 planning and we've just been 1167 01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:23,080 reacting to crisis after crisis. I would 1168 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:23,080 respectfully submit 1169 01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:33,280 that this is something that Ashlin needs in the long term. 1170 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:39,760 This is an insurance policy for Ashland and it's for everybody. 1171 01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:44,639 And with the grant and with donations that are now, I think after just a few 1172 01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:50,320 days of having donations being accepted or pledges being accepted, it's now at 1173 01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:54,239 $5,000. So, 1174 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:58,400 I think there's the great possibility that this wouldn't impact anybody's 1175 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:05,440 taxes. at all. 1176 01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:12,880 » So, I just don't see a loss here for any for anyone. And it seems like a moment 1177 01:41:10,719 --> 01:41:17,679 » to actually look at the long-term benefits to everyone in Ashland. 1178 01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:22,719 » Thank you, >> Jen. Charlie, I have one question. If 1179 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:26,880 the for whatever reason the grant is not available, 1180 01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:28,480 » I assume the town will still spend 100,000. 1181 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,800 » What? >> If the grant for some reason is not 1182 01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:32,400 available. >> It is available. 1183 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,480 » No, we got it already. >> It's already we already have it for 1184 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:39,440 sure. >> Well, we have to My understanding is we 1185 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:42,719 have to get a vote on the Warren article. 1186 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:46,480 » When the Warren article is approved by the town, we get the money. 1187 01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:49,679 » So, we've we've accepted we've accepted the grant. So, it's already funded 1188 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,840 » the money. >> The money The money's been reserved. 1189 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,880 Okay. >> The grant money has been reserved and 1190 01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:57,920 allocated. >> Not that we've received it. 1191 01:41:56,719 --> 01:42:02,320 » We're still We need to >> But it can't be withdrawn at this point. 1192 01:41:59,679 --> 01:42:03,840 » We can't get a notice to proceed until we get the vote. 1193 01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:09,440 » Okay. >> Once we get the vote, if it's in the 1194 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:13,440 affirmative, we will get the U letter to proceed. That's when we can start the 1195 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:18,239 project. If it's a no vote, then we are going to 1196 01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:24,199 withdraw from the grant. Okay? And they'll put the money back in to 1197 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,199 allocate to somebody else. 1198 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:41,360 » Dave to again from Smith Road. Um I just want to make a plug for uh economic 1199 01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:46,400 development. We've already had one. Um, you can see from all of the warrant 1200 01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:50,960 articles and the taxes in town that we are facing 1201 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:56,000 uh uh an increase in taxes and we will be 1202 01:42:53,600 --> 01:43:00,639 facing increase in taxes for a long time because as you can see we haven't taken 1203 01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:07,199 care of a lot of the things that we should have in the past. Now, um 1204 01:43:05,199 --> 01:43:13,040 » I think the select board has done an excellent job of helping us trying to 1205 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:19,520 recover from that. All of these capital reserve funds save us money in the long 1206 01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:26,159 run. And uh basically they pay for what we use now. So it's a pay as you go plan 1207 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:34,639 rather than uh rather than putting that onus on people in the future. 1208 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:41,199 Uh but economic development um the only way we get ourselves out of this is 1209 01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:45,040 either increased housing development or businesses 1210 01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:50,880 attracting businesses to the town, attracting people to the town. And what 1211 01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:56,159 businesses want and what people want are amenities. 1212 01:43:52,880 --> 01:44:01,119 We've let our town go, but we have a number of important assets. One of them 1213 01:43:58,719 --> 01:44:06,480 is the beach. Another one is the library. 1214 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:13,280 Those are things that people want that businesses want to have for their 1215 01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:21,119 employees and that's the reason that they come to places like Ashlin. There 1216 01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:30,639 are opportunities to redo the mill area. Okay, that is another important part of 1217 01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:35,520 this process. So maybe investing now u in something that may not cost us a 1218 01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:41,360 whole lot of money in the long run. Uh maybe that will help bring people to 1219 01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:45,040 town. Um making simple improvements to make 1220 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:55,199 our town more beautiful and more attractive. Um that's a help too. So 1221 01:44:51,280 --> 01:45:00,320 that's your decision here is do I want to 1222 01:44:57,440 --> 01:45:04,719 uh do I want to uh 1223 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:09,840 promote economic development even though now it may be a hardship to me in the 1224 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:15,440 future that I know that in the future I want to 1225 01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:21,920 lower my taxes and spread the cost of of operating our 1226 01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:27,880 town over a larger population or do I want to put that off and continue 1227 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,880 » the way I'm going. 1228 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:41,520 » Does anybody oppose Lori speaking again? >> Can I have permission? 1229 01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:44,960 » Lori Mayo, 193 River Street. Um, I just recently purchased a home in the town 1230 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:50,080 and one of the drawing factors was the fact of the Ashlin Town Beach. Um, I 1231 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:55,520 grew up in this town and one of the greatest things in my heart is that 1232 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:59,600 beach. My father and a lot of people um that are my age, their parents 1233 01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:04,320 contributed to building the campground and providing the opportunities for the 1234 01:46:01,679 --> 01:46:09,360 young children in this community um to flourish over the summer and to 1235 01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:13,600 have a place to go um and be part of a community. And I think our park and 1236 01:46:11,199 --> 01:46:18,400 recck department does a great job at bringing children into that area and to 1237 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:24,880 be part of that beach. And I think that there's a lot that we as a community can 1238 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:29,679 do to support um creating more opportunity for kids to be there. 1239 01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:35,040 And I think that this study >> is asking for the town to contribute 1240 01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:39,199 $50,000 which the people in the economic development committee have said we we're 1241 01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:42,560 getting pledges and on top of that people are going to volunteer their 1242 01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:48,960 times and efforts into the study which is going to be able to be turned into 1243 01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:55,040 dollars that is through time and um volunteer efforts that reduce that 1244 01:46:51,600 --> 01:47:00,080 $50,000. So in reality, we're talking about finding out what we can do to 1245 01:46:57,119 --> 01:47:04,639 bring that beach back to life at zero cost to the taxpayers 1246 01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:09,679 through the efforts of the economic development committee. And I just can't 1247 01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:15,520 comprehend why we wouldn't do that. And also, we're never going to be able to do 1248 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:20,880 it for free if we do it on our own because we're we're quibbling over 1249 01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:26,080 $50,000 where we can get matching funds. people aren't going to say, "Hey, let's 1250 01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:29,760 come up with a thing to spend $50,000 to investigate something that we know is 1251 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:33,840 going to take a hundred." Um, I it's I think it's going to end up 1252 01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:38,639 being a free thing and I think it's going to increase the quality of the 1253 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:42,880 fabric of this community and um I don't know. I just I think that there's a lot 1254 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:48,280 of reasons why it's the best thing we can do to the town. Thank you. 1255 01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,280 » Thanks, Lori. 1256 01:47:54,000 --> 01:48:00,560 Steve Felton again. One just one quick thing first. I agree with what a lot of 1257 01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:05,280 the people have talked about as far as why we want to do this for the beach. 1258 01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:10,480 But one other thing to consider is we've already applied for the grant and we 1259 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:12,719 were given the grant. If we decide, well, you know what, we don't want that 1260 01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,320 grant. >> The next time we go to the state or the 1261 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,960 federal government to ask for a grant, >> that's a good point. they're going to 1262 01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:23,600 say, "Well, honestly, I didn't really use the last one that we gave you uh 1263 01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:28,320 when you asked for it." So, that's just another thing to consider. And again, I 1264 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:32,159 don't want to reiterate the points that have already been made, but it's pretty 1265 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:35,400 small money for what we're talking about looking at. 1266 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:41,400 » Any other questions or discussion? 1267 01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:51,199 » Go ahead, Rick. As a resident of this community for the 1268 01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:54,800 last 49 years, I want to say this is the most transparent water law warrant 1269 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:58,719 article and and paperwork that's ever been I don't know who did it, the board 1270 01:48:56,400 --> 01:49:03,040 of selectman, the town manager, but this the footnotes in here make it a lot 1271 01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:08,159 clearer. Though I still find it a little confusing. One of my main things is no 1272 01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:12,960 tax impact. Well, anything you spend in this town is a tax impact somehow. You 1273 01:49:10,639 --> 01:49:17,520 know, I I argued this point last year with a previous town manager about I was 1274 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:22,000 told that well, I don't pay for the uh electric light bills and the signals and 1275 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:25,360 stuff like that in town. Well, I only I own the AS1 electric company, so I do 1276 01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:29,679 pay that tax. >> Regardless, I would like to say I'd like 1277 01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:30,639 to move make a motion to move this forward. 1278 01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:33,520 » Okay. >> Thank you. 1279 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:39,360 » Any discussion? >> Do I have a second? 1280 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:43,440 » I'll second. being reported. Okay, it's a motion to end discussion on 1281 01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:47,800 this article. All those in favor? >> I. 1282 01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,800 » All those opposed? Nay. 1283 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:58,440 » We will now vote to place this article on the warrant as written. All those in 1284 01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:58,440 favor? I. All those opposed? Nay. 1285 01:49:59,679 --> 01:50:08,159 Article 23. to see if the town of Ashland is in 1286 01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:15,760 favor of increasing the veterans special disabled property tax credit to $4,750 1287 01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:23,199 from $4,000 under the provisions of RSA 7235. 1288 01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:31,040 The purpose of this increase is to replace the loss of the veterans 1289 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:36,719 property tax credit RSA 72 col28 of $750 that they are no longer eligible 1290 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:43,280 for due to a change in the state of New Hampshire legislative rules. House Bill 1291 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:47,840 99 majority vote required recommended by the board of selectmen 5 1292 01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:52,000 to zero. recommended by the budget committee. Five, zero and one. Does that 1293 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:55,840 mean one abstain? >> One abstain. 1294 01:50:54,159 --> 01:50:57,920 » Do I have a motion to move this to the floor? 1295 01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:00,560 » I do. >> Michelle moved it to the floor. Second. 1296 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:06,840 » Second. >> Oh, J. 1297 01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:06,840 Any discussion on this article, 1298 01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:15,920 there being no discussion, we'll take a vote to place this article on the 1299 01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:19,639 warrant as written. All in favor? I. >> Any oppose? Nay. 1300 01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:31,320 Petitioned warrant article 24 library capital reserve fund. 1301 01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:42,480 Estimated tax impact 6 cents on this new reg legislation that any petitioned 1302 01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:47,040 article anyone that has who petitioned this article may speak first. So Alice, 1303 01:51:45,679 --> 01:51:51,280 would you like to speak first on this issue? 1304 01:51:48,639 --> 01:51:56,080 » I'll read it too. Shall the town of Ashlin vote to raise 1305 01:51:53,119 --> 01:52:02,239 and appropriate the sum of 25,000 to be deposited into the Ashlin Library 1306 01:51:58,159 --> 01:52:07,760 Capital Reserve Fund established in 2015 for the purpose of purchasing, building 1307 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:13,119 and/or renovating a facility, including furnishing and equipment for the Ashlin 1308 01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:17,760 Town Library. Majority vote required recommended by the board of selectmen 3 1309 01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:23,360 to two. Recommended not recommended by the budget committee. Three to three. 1310 01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:30,400 Alice, this is Alice Staples. >> Alice Staples, library trustee, 1311 01:52:26,719 --> 01:52:37,520 38 Post Street. Um, I just want to thank the voters for voting for this capital 1312 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:44,639 reserve fund in the past. We are now embarking on a capital campaign to fund 1313 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:48,719 our renovation and expansion. what we have in the 1314 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:54,080 capital reserve fund is going to go a long way towards that. Um, a couple of 1315 01:52:51,840 --> 01:53:03,520 points that have been brought up already. Um, the non-compliance issue, 1316 01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:08,639 uh, the library has very poor accessibility at this point. I have a 1317 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:14,080 hard time getting in there. Um, so that is one of the issues. Uh, Bob Lerno 1318 01:53:11,199 --> 01:53:20,320 talked about being sued. We have library patrons who tell us all the time that 1319 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:24,000 they can't get to the library and people need to bring them books. The other 1320 01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:31,040 issue that's been brought up that's important to having a great library in 1321 01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:36,080 the town is the economic development issues and people do ask about libraries 1322 01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:41,119 and libraries are important to people moving to towns. Uh I did a quick 1323 01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:46,400 search. There's a lot of information out there about public libraries and 1324 01:53:43,119 --> 01:53:54,000 economic development. So, we are close to halfway to our goal 1325 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:59,440 for our capital campaign to begin this process of making the 1326 01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:06,320 Ashlin Farm Library accessible to all and enlarging spaces within the library 1327 01:54:02,719 --> 01:54:12,360 for all residents of Ashlin from toddlers to all of us senior citizens. 1328 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:25,119 I want to thank um the friends. We have a brochure in the back to tell you about 1329 01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:29,119 all the services that the library provides. I think you'll be quite amazed 1330 01:54:27,119 --> 01:54:33,840 by that. And we have I have a couple of brochures 1331 01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:38,719 about our capital campaign and happy to speak to you more. We're trying to raise 1332 01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:44,080 private funds as well. So if anybody would like to make pledges or speak to 1333 01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:49,040 me about donations. I'm happy to talk to you at any time. 1334 01:54:46,719 --> 01:54:53,840 Um, we have a great friends group. There's a lot of them here today. And if 1335 01:54:51,599 --> 01:55:00,599 you want to join the friends, they're a wonderful group and they're helping us 1336 01:54:55,760 --> 01:55:00,599 quite a lot with this process. 1337 01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,119 Any questions? 1338 01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:25,360 Fran Newton, 54 Smith Hill Road. um an alternate trustee with the the library 1339 01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:30,960 and I don't think even I had any appreciation of the what they do for 1340 01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:35,760 this town until I became I had been on the friends for a while but being a 1341 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:41,360 trustee and hearing the reports of the programs that they run for senior 1342 01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:46,000 citizens for school children for for any citizen there's knitting there's books 1343 01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:50,239 books uh studies and it's just remarkable and if you haven't taken 1344 01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:55,360 advantage of it. You're really missing something. As Alice said, the li the 1345 01:55:53,520 --> 01:56:00,000 building is very old. It was never meant to be a library. It was somebody's home 1346 01:55:57,199 --> 01:56:05,119 years ago that was donated to the town and we established the library there 1347 01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:09,920 many many years ago. We got an an we we tried for several years to purchase the 1348 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:15,119 old school uh to build a library there. We were even given the money to buy it 1349 01:56:11,679 --> 01:56:20,239 outright and the town andor the select board turned it down. Uh so they wanted 1350 01:56:18,159 --> 01:56:23,920 us to stay in that building and you know what it's okay the building is 1351 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:28,159 beautiful. It's in the center of town. It's going to be really a showpiece and 1352 01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:33,440 the plans that we have worked out with the architect will make it uh really 1353 01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:38,400 wonderful. It there'll be an addition put on. It will be handicapped 1354 01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:44,159 accessible. There'll be a limited access limited use uh elevator called Alula. Um 1355 01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:48,159 there will be an improved ramp. There will be parking. So, that's going to 1356 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:51,440 have a lot of features and as Alice said, we're in the middle of a campaign 1357 01:56:49,599 --> 01:56:57,119 committee. We've got about half of the money now. Um, thanks to some generous 1358 01:56:54,239 --> 01:57:02,000 donations. Uh, we're working with some fundraisers and, you know, trying to get 1359 01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:06,080 get pledges and I can't tell you how important this will be to the overall 1360 01:57:03,679 --> 01:57:11,280 economic of e economic development of the town. I find it hard to understand 1361 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:16,239 that half of the budget committee and members of the select board could have 1362 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:22,000 refused this capital reserve request and in the past the select board has had 1363 01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:27,119 their had it as their or article but this year they declined to do it and so 1364 01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:33,360 we got the petition. It's $25,000 um a small impact or an enormous uh 1365 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:37,760 benefit to the town. Uh, again, there's been a lot of misinformation about about 1366 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:42,960 the library and about what it needs out there for years. Um, 1367 01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:46,560 it's I I'm just telling you, you ought to come in and and check out the 1368 01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:52,000 library. Talk to Sarah, our our director, and find out how how amazing 1369 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:56,159 this library is and how much better it could be. 1370 01:57:53,920 --> 01:58:00,360 » Thank you, friend. Any other comments or questions? 1371 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:10,320 down in the background. >> Excuse me. In the back. 1372 01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:13,880 » Shh. >> We can hear you. 1373 01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:18,880 » Do I have anyone who want to move the question to end debate? 1374 01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,960 » I'll move it. >> Michelle moved it. You want to second 1375 01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,119 it, David? >> Sure. 1376 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:26,320 » David second. >> All those in favor of ending debate on 1377 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:30,080 this article, say I. >> I. 1378 01:58:27,119 --> 01:58:34,320 » All those opposed, nay. We will now vote on this article to move 1379 01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:40,760 it to the warrant as written. All those in favor I. 1380 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:40,760 » All those opposed, nay. 1381 01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:56,000 » Is there anyone here from the Grafton County Senior Citizens Council who was a 1382 01:58:54,639 --> 01:59:02,880 part of this petition on the next article that would like to speak? 1383 01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:08,080 No, it's okay. Petition one, article 25. Estimated tax impact 3 cents. 1384 01:59:06,239 --> 01:59:13,520 We, the registered voters in the town of Ashen, present this petitioned article 1385 01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:19,760 to be included in the 2026 Town of Ashen warrant. So, the voters raise and 1386 01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:25,920 appropriate $12,000 to the Grafton County Senior Citizens Council, Inc. for 1387 01:59:22,639 --> 01:59:32,560 services for Ashlin residents. From July 1st, 2024 to June 30th, 2025, the 1388 01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:38,000 Grafton County Senior Citizens Council, Inc. provided services for 68 Ashen 1389 01:59:35,599 --> 01:59:42,719 residents and the Aging and Disability Resource Center resource center, 1390 01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:47,840 formerly known as Service Link, provided services for 12 residents. These 1391 01:59:45,599 --> 01:59:53,199 services included nutrition, transportation, outreach, support, 1392 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:58,040 activities, and more. The cost of providing these services was $79,6769. 1393 02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:08,960 Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to z recommended by the budget committee 1394 02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:11,520 6 to zero. Do I have anyone to raise the question uh move the question to the 1395 02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:15,520 floor? >> Yes. David, 1396 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:18,800 you want a second? >> I'll second. 1397 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:24,199 » I'll second. >> Is there any discussion on this article? 1398 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:24,199 » Got one. 1399 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:31,760 » There's a guy that just made a point about taxes going up. I'd like to 1400 02:00:30,239 --> 02:00:36,719 increase this. I'd like to double this amount. I mean, we have almost 70 people 1401 02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:39,840 that we're supporting here. $70,000. That's our bill right there. That really 1402 02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:46,239 is our bill. We ought to get closer to that. So, what I'm uh advocating is that 1403 02:00:42,639 --> 02:00:48,320 we raise this $12,000 to $24,000. >> You put that in writing. 1404 02:00:47,599 --> 02:00:55,239 » Yeah. Put it. >> Okay. She's got this one. 1405 02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:55,239 » Do I have a second to his amendment? 1406 02:00:55,920 --> 02:01:00,119 » We'll need a second to it. Rick, 1407 02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:10,639 » second. >> Oh, Linda. Linda back. 1408 02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:14,639 Thanks, Linda. Any discussion on the amendment as 1409 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:20,080 proposed to increase this? Did you say to 25, Rick? 1410 02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:25,400 » Uh 24 to $24,000 to the Grafton County Senior Citizens Council for Inc. 1411 02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:39,800 So may we vote on the amendment or do I need to end discussion first? Do I need 1412 02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:39,800 to end discussion? 1413 02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:44,920 Okay. 1414 02:01:52,719 --> 02:01:56,760 » Okay. >> Okay. 1415 02:01:58,159 --> 02:02:03,080 Okay. >> Okay. 1416 02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:15,520 Okay. Do I have a motion to end discussion on this on the amendment? 1417 02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:19,920 » Can I ask a question? >> Oh, okay. This is before. Go ahead. 1418 02:02:18,239 --> 02:02:24,199 » Um, thank you. >> Give her the mic, please. 1419 02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:35,920 And do do we know where the $12,000 amount came from? And because you're 1420 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:38,800 talking about >> it came with a petition. Whoever 1421 02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:43,119 petitioned it had it on there. >> So, but there's nobody here to ask 1422 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:48,320 questions as to why they're asking for 12,000 when they say they it's costing 1423 02:02:45,679 --> 02:02:52,000 close close to 80,000, but we don't have any more information. Correct. 1424 02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:55,119 » Right. >> What was it last year? 1425 02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:59,000 » I think it was a number like that. >> Do you guys have last year? 1426 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:13,800 It was 12,000 last year. Uh I believe it was two years ago. It was raised from 1427 02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:13,800 6,000 to 12,000. 1428 02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:25,199 » Go ahead. >> Wait a minute. Get get the microphone 1429 02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:31,080 please. >> It's offered now. 1430 02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:31,080 » Yeah. 1431 02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:38,080 When we voted to keep this as a yes on the budget committee, we looked at it 1432 02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:41,360 like >> I got to wait 1433 02:03:39,119 --> 02:03:46,480 » 12,000 before I talk about this. >> You know, 80 80 people and it it's 1434 02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:50,560 80,000 in total. So we were like, okay, it's like $1,000 per person of which 1435 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:54,159 they given us 90% through the charity and we only have to pay 10%. That's why 1436 02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:58,560 we were like, that sounds good. So my question is, does anybody in this room 1437 02:03:56,320 --> 02:04:02,159 think we need to have more than 80 people using the services? Is anybody 1438 02:04:00,239 --> 02:04:06,800 not getting the service for some reason? Is it supposed to be higher? Does our 1439 02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:10,199 community need more? Does anybody know? I don't know. 1440 02:04:11,679 --> 02:04:16,119 » It's a good question. Nobody has an answer. 1441 02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:22,119 Any other comments or questions? 1442 02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:28,639 » Who said that? Who just moved the question? Oh, Linda 1443 02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:31,199 moved the question. Do I have a second to move the question? 1444 02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:34,199 » I'll second. >> Okay. 1445 02:04:35,599 --> 02:04:42,000 » Okay. This is a motion to end discussion on this amendment. All in favor of 1446 02:04:39,599 --> 02:04:47,280 ending discussion say I. >> All oppose? Nay. 1447 02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:50,960 Okay. Now we will vote on the article as amended. So instead of 12,000. It's 1448 02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:54,320 going to >> vote on the amendment. 1449 02:04:53,199 --> 02:04:58,960 » Right. That's what we're voting on. The a the article is amended. We didn't. 1450 02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:01,440 » We haven't amended it yet. >> That's what we're doing right now. 1451 02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:06,080 » Okay. >> How do you want me to word it? 1452 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:09,679 » It sounded like Okay. We're voting on the amendment. Is that 1453 02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:11,920 » right? We're voting on amending it to 24 from 12. 1454 02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:16,560 » All right. Very good. >> Sorry. Didn't mean to be confusing. All 1455 02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:20,960 right. So, we're going to vote on a whether we want to amend the article 1456 02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:24,560 from 12,000 to 24,000. All those in favor? I. 1457 02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:31,080 » I. >> Okay. Let's put up your cards, please. 1458 02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:31,080 All those in favor cards, 1459 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:38,040 keep your cards up, please, so we can count. 1460 02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:49,920 Did you get 15? 16. >> Okay. Yeah. 1461 02:05:46,719 --> 02:05:56,639 All those opposed? Nay. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 1462 02:05:53,040 --> 02:06:00,119 eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. Did I get a tie? 1463 02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:11,159 » Are we on the eyes or the >> This is the naysay. 1464 02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:19,119 » That's how I voted. >> It did not pass. So, the article will 1465 02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:22,880 not be amended. Thank you. 1466 02:06:20,159 --> 02:06:28,400 » Is there any further discussion on the original article for $12,000? 1467 02:06:27,119 --> 02:06:31,840 » Move the question. >> Okay, Bob moves the question. Have a 1468 02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:37,599 second. >> Second. M Michelle second. 1469 02:06:35,679 --> 02:06:41,199 » All those in favor of ending discussion on the original article say I. I. 1470 02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:46,480 » I. >> Those opposed? Nay. 1471 02:06:43,679 --> 02:06:52,400 All right. We will now vote on whe on on placing this article on the warrant as 1472 02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:56,840 written. All those in favor? I. >> I. 1473 02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:56,840 » All those opposed? Nay. 1474 02:06:57,280 --> 02:07:00,760 We got that. 1475 02:07:03,119 --> 02:07:11,280 Is there anyone here from the Pemmy Baker Hospice and Home Health that would 1476 02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:17,280 like to speak on this article? Yeah. 1477 02:07:13,679 --> 02:07:22,719 Petition warrant article 26 estimated tax impact 2 cents to see if the town 1478 02:07:20,639 --> 02:07:26,280 will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of 9,746 1479 02:07:28,159 --> 02:07:37,040 9 for Pemmy Baker Hospice and Home Health. As a nonprofit agency, Pemmy 1480 02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:42,000 Baker Hospice and Home Health provides services without regard to ability to 1481 02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:46,960 pay and serves many uninsured and underinsured clients. Many of the 1482 02:07:44,639 --> 02:07:51,840 services Pammy Baker Hospice and Home Health provides are not covered fully by 1483 02:07:49,679 --> 02:07:58,480 insurance. The requested appropriation amounts to 1484 02:07:54,719 --> 02:08:02,719 less than $5 per year per resident based on the current census data and requests 1485 02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:08,480 a small fraction of the cost of providing services to the residents in 1486 02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:14,560 their homes. Pemmy Baker Hospice and Home Health provides home health, 1487 02:08:11,119 --> 02:08:19,360 hospice, and palative care services in the Ashlin community as well as 1488 02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:25,199 educational programs, workshops, and bereavement counseling. These services 1489 02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:29,280 to uninsured or underinsured patients help the town limit welfare payments for 1490 02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:33,599 medical services. Recommended by the board of selectment 5 1491 02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:38,719 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee 6 to z. Do I have a motion to 1492 02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:41,840 move this to the floor? >> Second. 1493 02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:45,960 » And any discussion on this article. 1494 02:08:47,679 --> 02:08:55,040 There being no discussion, we will vote to play now to place this on the warrant 1495 02:08:51,679 --> 02:08:58,840 as written. All those in favor? I. >> All those opposed? Nay. 1496 02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:06,639 Is there anyone here from the Lakes Region Mental Health Center? 1497 02:09:08,239 --> 02:09:16,560 Petition to warrant article 27. Estimated tax impact 1 cent. The town of 1498 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:23,760 Asham will raise and appropriate funds totaling $4,980 1499 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:28,800 for Lakes Region Mental Health Center to support the delivery of highlevel access 1500 02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:32,719 to mental health care. Lakes Region Mental Health Center 1501 02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:41,360 provides comprehensive mental health services, including 247 access 1502 02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:47,040 to emergency services and the Lakes Region Mental Health Center mobile 1503 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:52,320 crisis response, which respond reports to mental health emergency wherever the 1504 02:09:49,199 --> 02:09:58,239 individual is located, whether at home, work, school, or elsewhere in the 1505 02:09:54,480 --> 02:10:03,599 community. In early 2025, Lakes Region Mental Health Center opened the doors at 1506 02:10:01,119 --> 02:10:11,040 a place to go in Plymouth, which officers offers short-term mental health 1507 02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:16,159 stabilization services upon referral. Services are provided to anyone in need 1508 02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:20,400 regardless of their ability to pay. Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 1509 02:10:18,239 --> 02:10:26,000 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee 5 to one. Do have anyone move 1510 02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:28,719 the motion? David moved it. 1511 02:10:27,679 --> 02:10:34,440 » I'll second. >> Okay. 1512 02:10:30,239 --> 02:10:34,440 Any discussion on this article? 1513 02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:39,960 » I have a >> Okay. Go ahead. 1514 02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:54,239 » Michelle Roloff. I have two people in my family that have um 1515 02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:58,079 had mental illness to the level that they would need these kind of services. 1516 02:10:55,599 --> 02:11:01,760 They don't happen to live in Ashlin. Uh they sent a representative to one of our 1517 02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:07,440 last meetings and I'm just looking at the letter that she brought with her and 1518 02:11:04,639 --> 02:11:13,760 um these numbers are really great. So they paid 18,000. We pay like 5,000. So 1519 02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:17,199 we only paying like 20% of this. and they had a whole list of the number of 1520 02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:22,639 people served and the number of service hours was like 17 kids and 40, you know, 1521 02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:26,880 people that are not um elderly yet and another 12 elderly. So, I I was amazed. 1522 02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:31,840 I thought it was a great um return on our tax dollars. 1523 02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:35,320 » Thank you. >> Any other comments? 1524 02:11:53,199 --> 02:12:01,360 There being no further comments, we will vote to move this article as written to 1525 02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:06,480 the warrant. All those in favor of article 27 being moved to the warrant as 1526 02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:10,280 written signify by saying I. I. >> All those opposed, nay. 1527 02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:17,719 Is there anyone here from the Voices Against Violence? 1528 02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:27,599 No. Okay. Petition warrant article 28. Estimated tax impact one cent to see if 1529 02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:31,800 the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $5,297 1530 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:43,119 for 2026 to support Voices Against Violence, a nonprofit crisis center and 1531 02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:48,159 shelter providing emergency shelter, court, and hospital accompaniment and 1532 02:12:45,679 --> 02:12:53,119 general support to women, men, and children who are victims of domestic and 1533 02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:58,000 sexual violence. violence, stalking, human trafficking, and bullying. 1534 02:12:55,840 --> 02:13:03,520 Recommended by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by the budget 1535 02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:07,679 committee 6 to zero. Do I have a motion to move this to the floor? 1536 02:13:06,079 --> 02:13:12,320 » I'll make that motion. >> Second. 1537 02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:16,440 » Okay. Any discussion on this article? 1538 02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:27,960 We will vote to move this article to the warrant as written. All in favor? I. 1539 02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:27,960 » All oppose? Nay. 1540 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:36,760 Is there anyone here from the Tri County Action Program? 1541 02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:46,159 » Okay. Would you like to present anything on this petition be after I read it? 1542 02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:48,320 » Okay. Are you an Ashlin resident? >> I am. 1543 02:13:46,719 --> 02:13:53,360 » Okay. Thank you. 1544 02:13:50,639 --> 02:13:58,719 Petition warrant article 29 estimated tax impact 1 cent to see if the town 1545 02:13:56,400 --> 02:14:04,159 will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $3,876 1546 02:14:02,079 --> 02:14:09,760 for the operation of the following Tri County Community Action Program, Inc. 1547 02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:15,360 services in Ashlin includes fuel and energy assistance, guardianship, Head 1548 02:14:13,119 --> 02:14:23,760 Start, community action resource coordinates, coordinators, USDA, TFAP 1549 02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:29,520 food distribution to pantries and free diaper distribution programs recommended 1550 02:14:26,719 --> 02:14:33,280 by the board of selectmen 5 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee 6 to 1551 02:14:31,679 --> 02:14:38,239 zero. Have someone move the question. 1552 02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:41,599 I'll move the question. >> You do second. 1553 02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:45,280 » I will. >> Okay. 1554 02:14:43,599 --> 02:14:48,280 Any discussion or questions on this article? 1555 02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:56,400 There being no discussion, we will vote on placing this article on the warrant 1556 02:14:54,159 --> 02:15:01,920 as written. All those in favor of article 29 being posted on the warrant 1557 02:14:58,719 --> 02:15:05,560 as written, signify by saying I. I. >> All oppose. Nay. 1558 02:15:10,639 --> 02:15:20,159 Anyone here from Transport Central? I don't even know what this is. 1559 02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:25,760 Petition warrant article 30 estimated tax impact zero to raise an appropriate 1560 02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:30,960 $1,250 to support transport 1561 02:15:28,239 --> 02:15:34,400 central in providing essential medical transportation for qualified Ashlin 1562 02:15:33,119 --> 02:15:40,639 residents. Recommended by the board of selectmen 1563 02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:44,639 401 abstained recommended by the budget committee 5 to one. 1564 02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:47,199 » Can I move the question? >> Can I ask a question? 1565 02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:51,639 » We have to move the question to the floor first. 1566 02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:51,639 » Thank you. 1567 02:15:52,719 --> 02:15:59,520 » Second. Okay. >> Now you may ask a question but stand up. 1568 02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:04,079 » All right. I see this is for transportation for medical purposes. Uh, 1569 02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:09,360 we have a brand new ambulance that does that for us now. Uh, is this still 1570 02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:13,440 something that we need? Is this something that has been going on for a 1571 02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:18,400 long time, but I know that we had an older ambulance we're having trouble 1572 02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:22,639 with, but we got a brand new one. >> This is 1573 02:16:20,639 --> 02:16:25,520 » uh, Transport Central provides transportation. 1574 02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:32,080 » Any Sorry. Transport central provides 1575 02:16:28,239 --> 02:16:34,800 transportation to those that need. They are um 1576 02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:39,519 » doctors >> folks that don't need an ambulance. 1577 02:16:37,439 --> 02:16:41,519 They're going to doctor's appointments and such. 1578 02:16:40,399 --> 02:16:45,439 » Okay. Thank you. >> So non-emergency. 1579 02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:49,280 » Yeah, it's all it's all non-emergency. >> Okay. 1580 02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:56,920 » They they also have capabilities of um transporting wheelchair patients. Got 1581 02:16:52,319 --> 02:16:56,920 it. Thank you. Welcome. 1582 02:16:56,960 --> 02:17:02,679 not clear. >> Any other questions or comments? 1583 02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:08,559 There being no other questions or comments, we'll take a vote to move this 1584 02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:13,280 article to the warrant as written. All those in favor of article 30 being moved 1585 02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:14,800 to the warrant as written, signify by saying I. 1586 02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:18,519 » I. >> Those opposed, nay. 1587 02:17:20,319 --> 02:17:28,080 » Okay. Mr. 1588 02:17:24,479 --> 02:17:34,240 Petition born article 31 estimated tax impact 1 cent to see if the town will 1589 02:17:31,519 --> 02:17:40,080 vote to raise and appropriate to raise $3,000 to be deposited into the account 1590 02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:44,880 of the Ashlin Historical Society for the purpose of maintenance and repairs to 1591 02:17:42,719 --> 02:17:50,800 the Whipple House Museum owned by the town of Ashlin. Recommended by the board 1592 02:17:47,439 --> 02:17:55,200 of selectmen five to zero recommended by the budget committee 5 Z and one 1593 02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:57,359 abstain. >> Can I have a motion to move the 1594 02:17:56,559 --> 02:18:00,319 question? >> Motion 1595 02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:04,719 » second. >> Second. 1596 02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:07,719 » Any question or discussion on this article? 1597 02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:14,559 I love the question. 1598 02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:24,160 There being no discussion, we will now vote on the article. 1599 02:18:21,679 --> 02:18:28,000 » This is a vote for article 31 to be placed on the warrant as written. All in 1600 02:18:26,639 --> 02:18:32,120 favor? I. >> I. 1601 02:18:28,559 --> 02:18:32,120 » All oppose? Nay. 1602 02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:38,559 » Before I >> Anything to comment on that last one? 1603 02:18:36,319 --> 02:18:40,479 » Excuse me. Just a minute. Bob, wait one moment, please. 1604 02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:43,040 » Oh, okay. Before I adjourn the meeting, I just 1605 02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:47,280 want to let you know the board of selectmen will be having a brief meeting 1606 02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:51,880 after this meeting and the public is invited to wait to to attend. 1607 02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:57,280 » Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I do need to do this. 1608 02:18:55,519 --> 02:19:02,080 » Just one second. >> Yep. I have to 1609 02:19:00,639 --> 02:19:06,559 All right. I forgot about the articles that we delayed till the end. 1610 02:19:04,399 --> 02:19:10,439 » Sorry about that. We're almost done. >> Like, 1611 02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:10,439 » I tried. 1612 02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:17,559 So this is a petition 1613 02:19:24,399 --> 02:19:31,160 » need to be amended say it's not validated. 1614 02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:39,399 » Okay. >> All right. 1615 02:19:40,960 --> 02:19:44,599 Linda, I need you. 1616 02:19:48,399 --> 02:19:54,479 » I'm going to ask for a motion to reopen the historical society donation to the 1617 02:19:52,960 --> 02:19:56,800 Whipple House because it just says to raise and it should say raise and 1618 02:19:56,000 --> 02:20:00,319 appropriate. >> Oh, okay. 1619 02:19:57,680 --> 02:20:05,560 » So, um I will ask for a motion. You just say so move. 1620 02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:05,560 » Okay. Okay. Thank you. 1621 02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:15,120 All right, we have a little we have a little bit of house cleaning to do here. 1622 02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:18,960 The last warrant article that we passed, article 31 for the Whipple House 1623 02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:26,080 donation to the Ashen Historical Society. The article really should say 1624 02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:29,439 to raise and appropriate $3,000. So, I'm looking for a motion to amend. 1625 02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:31,359 » So, move. >> Okay. In a second, 1626 02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:40,880 » I'll second. >> Okay. Any discussion on our amendment? 1627 02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:45,680 » Okay. So, we will vote on the amendment. The amendment is simply to revise it to 1628 02:20:43,359 --> 02:20:50,640 say to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate $3,000 to be 1629 02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:56,080 deposited to the account of the Ashen Historical Society. 1630 02:20:53,920 --> 02:21:00,640 All those in favor of the amendment as proposed say I. 1631 02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:05,280 » All those opposed, nay. >> Okay. So now we vote on placing it on. 1632 02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:09,920 Okay. We'll now vote to place this article on the warrant as amended. All 1633 02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:14,160 those in favor I. >> I. 1634 02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:17,840 » All those opposed? Nay. Okay. So now we have to do 1635 02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:24,840 I guess it's just basically does anyone have any questions on the planning board 1636 02:21:20,640 --> 02:21:24,840 items that have been proposed? 1637 02:21:25,600 --> 02:21:31,800 » We're back to article. We'll do article two first. 1638 02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:39,080 Okay. Article two was the new compact. So 1639 02:21:39,439 --> 02:21:44,399 » any questions on that one? >> Maybe make them aware of these documents 1640 02:21:43,359 --> 02:21:50,280 on the back. >> Right. There are copies of each of these 1641 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:50,280 in the back table. 1642 02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:56,720 » Go ahead, Linda. >> Yeah. Linda Bar Thompson Street. I think 1643 02:21:55,120 --> 02:22:01,840 I'm on the final board. We just want to make sure people really know what you're 1644 02:21:58,399 --> 02:22:05,600 voting for. Um, a compact zone, I realized we I was looking through it, it 1645 02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:12,880 doesn't say what a compact zone actually is. Um, a compact zone refers to how 1646 02:22:10,319 --> 02:22:19,600 many people live or work in a given area. It's about density. And the issue 1647 02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:24,399 is when you have a lot more population density, if people are setting off 1648 02:22:21,680 --> 02:22:31,200 fireworks or discharging weapons, the risk goes up. So in 19 the last time a 1649 02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:38,319 compact zone here in Ashley was defined was in 1968. It was over 50 years. It 1650 02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:46,000 was over 50 years ago. In 19 in 2024 the town voted on ordinances related to uh 1651 02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:50,560 noise disturbance disorderly contact conduct and said it's within the compact 1652 02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:55,280 zone. The police looked at it and said wait a minute 1653 02:22:52,800 --> 02:23:01,200 what's the current compact zone? the gold compact zone definition said, well, 1654 02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:04,880 you know, from Mr. So and so's land up to, 1655 02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:08,960 you know, the such and such family. Well, some of those properties aren't 1656 02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:12,720 even owned by those people anymore. People may not remember. It's like if 1657 02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:18,880 you look at the early deeds in town, you know, from so and so's land to so- and 1658 02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:23,920 so's land. So, what we have done is redefine the town back zone. First of 1659 02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:28,319 all, putting in lot numbers and maps. So you actually know, you can look at a map 1660 02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:33,439 and you can see and it works off of state definitions of population density. 1661 02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:37,600 This is about public safety. It's just making sure it doesn't say you 1662 02:23:35,439 --> 02:23:41,280 can't own those you can't own fireworks. It just says where there are high 1663 02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:46,800 concentrations of people use common sense. You can't set them off 1664 02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:51,680 there. Um, it also raises the fine somewhat for disorderly conduct and the 1665 02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:56,240 disturbances, but it's basically to make sure that people in dense population 1666 02:23:54,000 --> 02:24:03,240 areas are safe. Does that any questions on that? 1667 02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:03,240 Yeah, 1668 02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:13,200 » Robin says high street. Does it affect if the property have 1669 02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:18,960 butts on it but it is does it affect the entire parcel or is or does the compact 1670 02:24:16,640 --> 02:24:23,840 zone only extend a certain number of feet of the street? So for example, I 1671 02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:28,240 have property that the house is set back and then there's some land behind it. 1672 02:24:26,319 --> 02:24:32,000 Are you saying that that entire piece of land then becomes part of the compact 1673 02:24:30,319 --> 02:24:35,120 zone? >> I would have to defer that question. I 1674 02:24:34,479 --> 02:24:38,720 do not >> No. You mean so you're saying that the 1675 02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:42,800 boundaries of the compact zone sort of cut across the property but don't 1676 02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:47,200 include the whole property? Am I understanding your question? The last 1677 02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:50,800 time I read the the regs the I believe if I understood them correctly the 1678 02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:56,479 boundaries for these zones were a certain distance from the road. And now 1679 02:24:54,000 --> 02:25:01,600 this seems to apply all properties there but certain streets. So for example 1680 02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:06,560 again I have a property that includes a lot of woods and things and so does that 1681 02:25:03,920 --> 02:25:10,479 whole property suddenly you know compact zone. 1682 02:25:07,439 --> 02:25:14,040 » I do not know the answer to that and I defer it to council. 1683 02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:22,399 » It's going to depend on what the regs say specifically and I haven't reviewed 1684 02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:26,560 the records themselves and we and I think people are aware of this. We can't 1685 02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:30,479 amend zoning articles here today. So, I think that's probably information that 1686 02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:35,359 could be provided before the actual vote on them. Um, and I'm not sure if it was 1687 02:25:33,600 --> 02:25:38,720 discussed at the planning board meetings where these articles were presented or 1688 02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:43,520 not, but it would be in the right. >> I I think in the planning board 1689 02:25:40,399 --> 02:25:45,439 discussions it was taken as the entire property, 1690 02:25:44,399 --> 02:25:49,040 » right? >> That was sort of the assumption. 1691 02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:55,319 » Okay. Yeah. But it was sort of the entire property rather than so far into 1692 02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:02,960 » Is there any opportunity for example? 1693 02:26:01,439 --> 02:26:05,600 » Bob, can you get to the microphone so people can get your question or comment? 1694 02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:11,600 Thank you. >> My question to the planning board, uh, 1695 02:26:08,479 --> 02:26:16,960 is there opportunity for waiverss or any chance if somebody has some kind of 1696 02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:22,160 event going on? They have a large property like you may have and you might 1697 02:26:19,359 --> 02:26:28,000 want to make changes for 1698 02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:32,560 the town to be able to offer a waiver permit for 1699 02:26:30,319 --> 02:26:36,560 that one like we do with the with the cover 1700 02:26:34,399 --> 02:26:42,800 bridge road. So is those opportunities 1701 02:26:39,439 --> 02:26:46,160 available? Question. So the question is whether there if you were having an 1702 02:26:44,319 --> 02:26:54,160 event on a property that's within the compact zone could you get a waiver and 1703 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:59,040 I for a permit um >> we did not discuss that because this was 1704 02:26:56,479 --> 02:27:03,920 based on property density following the state RSA about what constitutes 1705 02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:09,359 density. Um, as far as waiverss to things like that, I would have to again 1706 02:27:06,800 --> 02:27:14,240 defer to the select board or to the police as to how that would work. Um, 1707 02:27:12,319 --> 02:27:19,359 because this is simply defining the area. And I think so we didn't have the 1708 02:27:17,359 --> 02:27:24,240 authority to propose how waiverss to that would work. But if there are other 1709 02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:28,560 ways to arrive at waiverss, I I think that would be a question or for the fire 1710 02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:35,439 team. I'm going to mention that to our groups. Um Robin, just to address your 1711 02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:38,160 question, there will be colored maps um available. Um hopefully by the time 1712 02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:41,520 we're voting, we're going to have a larger map so you can see the areas and 1713 02:27:40,160 --> 02:27:43,280 then we have some colored ones up here that might help you. 1714 02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:49,240 » Okay, thanks. >> It looks like it's the whole piece of 1715 02:27:44,720 --> 02:27:49,240 property if it's abiding onto the road. 1716 02:27:50,399 --> 02:27:58,000 » Any other questions on article two? Did we answer? I didn't get an answer. 1717 02:27:56,399 --> 02:28:04,160 » What was your question? >> If there will be my question maybe legal 1718 02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:09,280 to tell me what I for example we have 4th of July we have fireworks that are 1719 02:28:06,399 --> 02:28:11,920 that are blown off at the school and we get permits for that. That correct? 1720 02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:18,000 » Yes sir. >> So would that be possible for private 1721 02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:21,760 citizens having a small event apply for some sort of a waiver or permit be able 1722 02:28:20,319 --> 02:28:25,920 to do something? I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but perhaps it they may 1723 02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:29,120 want to know if they could do something like that. 1724 02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:32,800 » Those questions do come up. And that's the only reason why I'm bringing it up 1725 02:28:30,640 --> 02:28:36,080 because I know that that that occurs. You know, people have events on their 1726 02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:40,399 property. People have large trucks property. 1727 02:28:38,399 --> 02:28:45,359 » I guess we start with policemen. >> Do we have a fireworks ordinance? 1728 02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:50,319 » We do have a fireworks ordinance. However, it's 1729 02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:52,640 inefficient at master. >> Maybe the chief will ought to pipe the 1730 02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:57,319 chief. >> That was one of the reasons they did the 1731 02:28:54,319 --> 02:28:57,319 comp. 1732 02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:07,439 » I heard a number of questions. What's the actual question? 1733 02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:09,600 » There's a lot of questions going on there. 1734 02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:14,240 » You know, the question is pretty straightforward. The compact zones is 1735 02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:18,399 going to have some restrictions on on firearms and fireworks, but I'm not 1736 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:23,120 questioning the firearms because we understand the safety of that. On the 1737 02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:28,160 fireworks, we we call our fireworks in the middle of town for July every year. 1738 02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:33,840 So, we have to get permit to do that. Is this possible for somebody that may have 1739 02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:39,760 an event on their property and apply for a waiver or a permit from the town to 1740 02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:42,720 have some kind of small demonstration? That's the question. 1741 02:29:40,880 --> 02:29:47,760 » Yeah. Yeah. Sure. So the the answer would be yes. Uh so the compact part of 1742 02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:51,439 town and any town ordinance falls under the selecting. So the selecting can 1743 02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:56,160 override that for a permiting process and there is specific designations for 1744 02:29:54,399 --> 02:29:59,439 permits for certain types of fireworks to either be signed off on by the fire 1745 02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:01,920 chief or the >> correct. Thank you. That answers the 1746 02:30:01,359 --> 02:30:04,479 question. Okay. >> Good answer. Thank you. 1747 02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:06,640 » And I think that makes a lot of people happy to know that there are other 1748 02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:09,680 options. >> Options, right? 1749 02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:12,720 » Thank you. Could be options but no guarantees. 1750 02:30:12,000 --> 02:30:17,439 » Well, I just want >> good diplomatic answer. 1751 02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:21,280 » Any other questions or comments on this article? 1752 02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:26,720 » Okay, so the article two, combat zone will appear on the warrant as written. 1753 02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:30,000 Article three, mixed use zone. I'm assuming none of you mind that I'm not 1754 02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:32,479 reading all these. Correct. >> Right. 1755 02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:35,760 » Okay. Any questions or comments on the mixed 1756 02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:39,200 use? Linda, you want to start it off? Now, 1757 02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:44,800 pardon me. I I just like to make sure people know what they're for. So, mixed 1758 02:30:41,760 --> 02:30:47,760 use right now. How many people remember all of the debate about you drop in? 1759 02:30:47,439 --> 02:30:51,439 » Yes. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, 1760 02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:56,880 » part of the problem for the folks trying to do drop in was that that whole area 1761 02:30:55,280 --> 02:31:00,479 was zoned >> residential, right? 1762 02:30:58,160 --> 02:31:08,720 » Which meant that they they the zoning did not allow them to run that business. 1763 02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:12,560 Okay. In reality, that whole corridor up along Daniel Webster, there are 1764 02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:17,920 existing businesses that were grandfathered in when the zoning got put 1765 02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:22,800 in. They're also people running small businesses out of their home. Um, but 1766 02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:27,200 may feel they have to do it under the radar because with unless they come 1767 02:31:25,040 --> 02:31:31,600 before the planning board and get a home occupation 1768 02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:35,200 permit, um, there's a lot of business already happening. So the planning board 1769 02:31:33,439 --> 02:31:40,960 thought why don't we just make it official that way nobody has to hide 1770 02:31:39,040 --> 02:31:44,479 they can run a small business at the same time we wanted to do it in a way 1771 02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:49,920 where it wasn't going to turn into strip malls and huge apartment complexes you 1772 02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:55,840 know how do you keep it so it has the village character remains attractive 1773 02:31:53,280 --> 02:32:01,520 small scale so what we're proposing that that that 1774 02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:06,160 whole area and it's laid out the the addresses are laid out in the warrant 1775 02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:10,240 article that that be redefined as a mixed use zone. 1776 02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:16,319 » So that would be you could have a business on the ground floor and an 1777 02:32:12,240 --> 02:32:20,479 apartment above. You could have smaller restaurants, cafes. 1778 02:32:18,960 --> 02:32:25,200 Um it is now state law that anybody who 1779 02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:30,479 wants to put in an accessory dwelling unit like a tiny house or something on 1780 02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:35,280 their land can do so. So somebody might want to do that and have the added 1781 02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:39,280 income from rental. At the same time, we wanted to make sure that big developers 1782 02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:44,640 did not come, we've kind of been through that, and propose, you know, a big 1783 02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:49,920 apartment building. So it is limited. We're limiting the number of units in a 1784 02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:55,359 given building. The idea is to protect the village character, you know, of 1785 02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:59,760 Ashley and and to keep it attractive. And so any parking would have to be set 1786 02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:06,399 back. In other words, it's really to preserve the the best of the feeling of 1787 02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:13,280 the of the town, but allow more possibilities for small businesses 1788 02:33:09,680 --> 02:33:19,920 to operate out of people's homes and so on. Um, any questions on that? So, 1789 02:33:17,439 --> 02:33:26,720 that's what mixed use means. It's residential and small business owners 1790 02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:31,840 would have to file for permits. So at this point there are two kinds of 1791 02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:37,600 permission you have to have to run a business. If the state defines it as a 1792 02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:42,640 business that requires permitting then you have to deal with the state. If it 1793 02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:48,479 is just like I have a home occupation I'm a small scale dog breeder. So I came 1794 02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:54,560 to I checked I make made sure that that within the scale that that the state 1795 02:33:50,560 --> 02:33:59,040 requires I do not meet the demands to be listed as a kennel. but I have a home 1796 02:33:56,880 --> 02:34:04,240 business. So, I came before the planning board. I laid out what we're doing, 1797 02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:08,960 answered their questions, um, and got a what's known as a home 1798 02:34:06,960 --> 02:34:12,399 occupation. Um, which is not the same thing as 1799 02:34:10,720 --> 02:34:18,560 living in the place. It means like occupation is in work or business. I got 1800 02:34:14,880 --> 02:34:23,680 a a certificate from the town free, you know, doesn't cost anything. 1801 02:34:21,439 --> 02:34:29,760 So, it doesn't change. There are no fees to the town, no overhead for getting 1802 02:34:26,880 --> 02:34:35,200 this, but it just means that the town is aware that I'm doing it. Okay. So, it's 1803 02:34:33,359 --> 02:34:38,720 just to allow a way, but because the other thing too is for economic 1804 02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:43,040 development, it's really important that we have an idea of all the economic 1805 02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:47,280 things going on in the town. This is a separate topic, but I'm hoping we can 1806 02:34:44,880 --> 02:34:52,479 end up doing an online directory. So, everybody who has a small business could 1807 02:34:49,359 --> 02:34:55,120 list and have it be, you know, help in marketing the work that people are 1808 02:34:53,680 --> 02:35:00,000 doing. That's a separate question. It's not part of this. But by having a 1809 02:34:57,680 --> 02:35:03,520 mixeduse zone, it means that people can run a small business out of their home 1810 02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:09,280 and not feel they have to do it under the radar. 1811 02:35:06,479 --> 02:35:14,000 » Pardon me. So that means that do drop in could in fact 1812 02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:15,359 » if as a mixed use zone do drop in could have operated. 1813 02:35:14,880 --> 02:35:21,680 » Yes. >> Good. Okay. And so part of the the that 1814 02:35:19,120 --> 02:35:26,720 was part of what started the discussion that the zoning board could not 1815 02:35:24,880 --> 02:35:30,399 authorize do drop in. And I know they took a lot of heat for that but the 1816 02:35:28,479 --> 02:35:35,280 zoning ordinance did not allow them to do that. And so to avoid that kind of 1817 02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:39,920 issue in the future by making this adjustment, another do drop in 1818 02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:43,840 initiative provided it went before the planning 1819 02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:47,439 board and all of that met all the other requirements and in that case it would 1820 02:35:45,359 --> 02:35:52,359 involve state permitting could at least hypothetically operate. 1821 02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:57,560 » Any other questions or comments on this article? 1822 02:35:58,479 --> 02:36:07,760 Seeing none, we will vote. um to place article three mixeduse zone on the 1823 02:36:04,880 --> 02:36:12,120 warrant as written. All in favor? I. >> I. 1824 02:36:08,479 --> 02:36:12,120 » All oppose? Nay. 1825 02:36:14,960 --> 02:36:26,000 Article four, blasting ordinance. Do you want to start this one off? 1826 02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:31,200 » Okay. So, article four about blasting. This one and the one about excavations 1827 02:36:28,479 --> 02:36:38,720 the planning board put in place because in the last year or so there have been 1828 02:36:33,040 --> 02:36:45,040 some incidences in town of largecale blasting and hauling off of stuff and 1829 02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:50,560 the town was not kept informed and abutters were not happy because it did a 1830 02:36:48,399 --> 02:36:55,280 lot of damage and the abutters had no recourse and the town had no recourse 1831 02:36:52,640 --> 02:36:58,560 and we realized that the blasting ordinance 1832 02:36:56,160 --> 02:37:02,640 was really inadequate. And so what this is an attempt to do, 1833 02:37:00,479 --> 02:37:07,280 and we went through various examples of blasting ordinances from other towns and 1834 02:37:04,720 --> 02:37:11,280 tried to put together one that really seemed like best standard of practice. 1835 02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:14,880 It requires if you're going to do blasting, you have to show that you have 1836 02:37:12,800 --> 02:37:19,600 the right insurance, that you have certification, you know what you're 1837 02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:23,600 doing. You have to keep the town uh informed. You can't start at 8 in the 1838 02:37:21,760 --> 02:37:27,920 morning. you know, who wants to live next to Glasgow that's starting in at 7 1839 02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:34,399 or 8 in the morning. So, it sets the hours. Um, it also allows the town to 1840 02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:40,560 track what actually is being disturbed, what actually is being removed because 1841 02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:44,720 the damage done to one section in town by someone who came in and did a lot of 1842 02:37:42,399 --> 02:37:51,040 blasting and a lot of removal of stuff cannot be reversed. And so this allows 1843 02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:55,840 the town to step in a lot sooner because to proceed and it it also means that if 1844 02:37:53,760 --> 02:38:01,359 there's if the state has to be involved through the Department of Environmental 1845 02:37:57,760 --> 02:38:09,359 Services and so on, it just allows the town to step in sooner to prevent damage 1846 02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:13,439 that can't be undone. Okay. Um so it basically the ordinance before was 1847 02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:16,880 insufficient. This is trying to fix that. Even though we can't undo some of 1848 02:38:15,359 --> 02:38:20,760 the damage that was done, it would allow us to prevent it going forward. 1849 02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:25,479 » Any questions or comments? 1850 02:38:25,600 --> 02:38:34,640 » Um, and Richard Hill Road. My question is when you say the town, 1851 02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:40,000 who is the town in that instance? Like do they people need to apply or let the 1852 02:38:37,439 --> 02:38:42,399 police know or >> all of the above? 1853 02:38:41,040 --> 02:38:48,000 » Yeah. So there would be an application 1854 02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:51,760 process. They would do an application to perform blasting. They get to provide 1855 02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:56,000 their insurance certificate, the scope of the work that they're trying to 1856 02:38:53,040 --> 02:39:00,800 accomplish. Then the proper notification to the police department, to the fire 1857 02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:05,600 department, and the residents in the general area that could be adversely 1858 02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:11,680 affected. Um, currently now there is none of that notification. 1859 02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:16,560 So I I fully support the notification in my past life as a fire chief in the town 1860 02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:20,800 that that worked in. I always got notification in advance and always made 1861 02:39:19,120 --> 02:39:26,000 sure that the residents in the general vicinity of where the shoot was going to 1862 02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:30,880 be were well aware and if they had opposition to it. They could voice their 1863 02:39:28,399 --> 02:39:35,520 concerns and then the lasting company would put out monitoring devices 1864 02:39:33,600 --> 02:39:41,200 so that they could monitor. they would actually look at your property, do a 1865 02:39:38,800 --> 02:39:46,160 pre-b blast and then a post blast to make sure they cause no harm to you. So, 1866 02:39:43,680 --> 02:39:53,280 I think you really this would be a good thing for the town to um put into effect 1867 02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:59,080 and it basically keeps them honest and keeps them informative and everybody 1868 02:39:55,359 --> 02:39:59,080 knows what's going on. 1869 02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:06,319 » Any other questions or comments? These people need to be licensed as 1870 02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:09,120 well. >> That's correct. 1871 02:40:07,520 --> 02:40:12,120 » They have your licensed in good standing. 1872 02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:20,960 » No further questions or discussion. We will move to place this article 4 1873 02:40:18,560 --> 02:40:24,160 blasting ordinance on the warrant as written. All in favor? 1874 02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:27,880 » I. >> All oppose? Nay. 1875 02:40:29,120 --> 02:40:37,359 Article five, excavation ordinance. Do I have a motion to place it on the 1876 02:40:35,359 --> 02:40:40,160 warrant or a motion to place it on the table? Sorry, Michelle. Do you have a 1877 02:40:39,359 --> 02:40:44,800 motion? >> I'll second it. 1878 02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:49,680 » Okay. Any discussion on article five? Linda, you want to start? 1879 02:40:47,359 --> 02:40:55,439 » Okay, last one. Um this too arose the need to define 1880 02:40:52,880 --> 02:41:03,200 this arose because again somebody was hauling out a lot of truckloads and the 1881 02:40:59,359 --> 02:41:10,160 current ordinance says well some of them are removing multiple truckloads 1882 02:41:07,359 --> 02:41:16,720 that two or 200 and the vagueness of the language allows 1883 02:41:12,800 --> 02:41:21,840 someone to get away with a lot. So this um and the other problem is that if you 1884 02:41:19,359 --> 02:41:27,120 abot a property where someone is doing a lot of excavation in addition to 1885 02:41:24,080 --> 02:41:33,920 blasting, it can have runoff problems for your land. You know, if they're 1886 02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:37,920 ripping everything down um and you have no say, 1887 02:41:36,080 --> 02:41:44,399 that's a problem as well. So this is to protect the butters as well as the town. 1888 02:41:41,680 --> 02:41:49,120 Okay. Um, it allows the town to just have a better understanding of how much 1889 02:41:46,160 --> 02:41:57,359 is being removed and relocated. The town also gets paid by the truckload. 1890 02:41:52,000 --> 02:42:02,479 So, it it requires say the developer to document what they're actually hauling 1891 02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:07,840 out. Um, now I want to be really clear. This if you want to build a house, this 1892 02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:14,000 will not affect you. The original amount that you had to account for was 1,000 1893 02:42:09,840 --> 02:42:19,359 cubic yards. We talked to the person who was the engineer of the town at the time 1894 02:42:17,120 --> 02:42:24,319 and to a number of contractors to make sure that this was fair to anybody, you 1895 02:42:22,160 --> 02:42:28,640 know, homeowners who want to build. We don't want to place burdens on them. 1896 02:42:26,000 --> 02:42:32,640 This is for much much larger projects and it's really to keep developers 1897 02:42:30,399 --> 02:42:38,160 accountable to the town. Okay. So 1898 02:42:34,880 --> 02:42:43,120 contractors generally agreed that 200 cubic yards was for plenty for a good 1899 02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:47,600 size basement. >> We put it at 300 cubic yards just to 1900 02:42:45,520 --> 02:42:53,439 make sure that you had plenty of room for make for digging out a basement. So 1901 02:42:50,960 --> 02:42:56,880 if that's what you're doing, it does not affect you. If you wanted to do 1902 02:42:55,280 --> 02:43:03,120 something bigger than that, you go to the building inspector and ask for 1903 02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:08,479 Okay. Um keeping it simple. This is really for big scale properties where 1904 02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:11,920 someone is pulling out, you know, truckloads after truckloads after 1905 02:43:10,399 --> 02:43:16,560 truckloads and to make sure that the town knows 1906 02:43:14,319 --> 02:43:24,399 what they're doing and tracking the impact on things like, you know, things 1907 02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:28,800 slide, landslide, flooding, and so on. Cuz let's say someone excavates enough 1908 02:43:26,399 --> 02:43:34,240 and then there's landslide down to the street, you know, that's a mess. So you 1909 02:43:31,359 --> 02:43:38,560 really want to just for safety and for preservation 1910 02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:42,560 and accountability. This is just to make sure people are accountable. 1911 02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:48,680 » Thanks, Linda. >> Any questions or comments on that? Go 1912 02:43:45,680 --> 02:43:48,680 ahead. 1913 02:43:51,680 --> 02:44:01,120 » Bonnie, 160 Albrook Road. Um, I just looked at a couple of other towns around 1914 02:43:56,160 --> 02:44:07,359 us and I'm finding nothing but the 1,000 um, minimum. So, I was wondering how did 1915 02:44:04,319 --> 02:44:13,279 the 300 get established >> as far as the cubic yardage? 1916 02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:17,760 » Point of reference, the um, 300 cubic yards. You know what a construction 1917 02:44:14,960 --> 02:44:22,880 debris container looks like? That would be about 10 of those. So, 30 that's not 1918 02:44:20,640 --> 02:44:26,080 a lot of material. So I guess where did 300 come from? 1919 02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:32,160 » Yeah. So so again what we did was we talked to the then town engineer 1920 02:44:30,080 --> 02:44:37,600 to see what he recommended and then we also talked to a number of contractors 1921 02:44:34,720 --> 02:44:44,640 as to what would be reasonable to be able to remove for a goodiz basement. 1922 02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:48,880 They recommended 200. We bumped it up to 300. But that was sort of not that was 1923 02:44:47,200 --> 02:44:53,279 not arbitrary. It was really after consulting with an engineer and 1924 02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:56,479 contractors to make sure that we were factoring their experience because we 1925 02:44:54,800 --> 02:44:59,680 didn't want to be unfair to contractors either. 1926 02:44:57,520 --> 02:45:04,800 » Does that did that answer the question? >> Yeah, it's just unique. The amount is 1927 02:45:02,240 --> 02:45:05,760 unique about 12 different towns that I looked at. 1928 02:45:05,359 --> 02:45:11,439 » Yeah. >> And some of them have no minimum. So I 1929 02:45:09,200 --> 02:45:16,160 assume anybody who does any excavation has to go again. So 1930 02:45:13,359 --> 02:45:20,640 » that may be and ours was a thousand. Um, that certainly can be up for discussion. 1931 02:45:17,840 --> 02:45:25,040 I think our big concern was how do we limit it so that anybody who's doing 1932 02:45:22,720 --> 02:45:28,279 stuff bigger has to be accountable to the town. 1933 02:45:31,120 --> 02:45:35,319 » Any other comments or questions? 1934 02:45:36,000 --> 02:45:44,640 » Seeing none, we'll take a vote to place article 5 excavation ordinance on the 1935 02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:48,960 warrant as written. All in favor? I >> I 1936 02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:51,920 » all oppose. Nay. >> Again, I just want to let you know the 1937 02:45:50,319 --> 02:45:55,760 board of selectment is having a meeting after this meeting. Um it's a very brief 1938 02:45:54,160 --> 02:46:02,160 one, but if anyone wants to stay, they're welcome to stay. 1939 02:45:58,240 --> 02:46:04,240 Um I will entertain a motion to adjourn. >> Oh, did you have a comment? 1940 02:46:03,760 --> 02:46:06,640 » Yes. >> Oh, okay. 1941 02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:12,160 » Close up. I had a comment I wanted to make on the 1942 02:46:09,120 --> 02:46:16,399 distort society. >> Keep it brief. 1943 02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:21,840 This is not a here or there. Uh this year as you know is the 250th 1944 02:46:18,399 --> 02:46:28,240 anniversary of the constitution of the United States and this year the Ashlin 1945 02:46:25,520 --> 02:46:34,479 Historic Society in cooperation working with the Fourth of July committee is 1946 02:46:31,439 --> 02:46:39,920 planning big events for the 4th of July this year much bigger than we normally 1947 02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:44,720 have. Uh, I personally have been working with the archives down in Carman, New 1948 02:46:41,920 --> 02:46:50,319 Hampshire and have copies of our original constitution and would remain 1949 02:46:47,439 --> 02:46:54,880 our US Constitution. As you may or may not know, New 1950 02:46:52,880 --> 02:47:00,000 Hampshire was a United States ratified constitution and they would not ratify 1951 02:46:57,040 --> 02:47:04,880 it until we had a bill of rights. I have a direct copy from the original that's 1952 02:47:02,479 --> 02:47:09,520 going to be on display. It's autographed by Bill Gardner, the former Secretary of 1953 02:47:07,120 --> 02:47:14,399 State with a state seal on it and it's sealed, you know, and has a beautiful 1954 02:47:11,680 --> 02:47:19,600 frame. And I also, while I was at it, I've got the town founding documents for 1955 02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:24,800 Ashley. So, those are all going to be displayed in in some point. I'm not sure 1956 02:47:23,439 --> 02:47:29,760 what where we're going to do it yet. We're still in the study phases here. It 1957 02:47:28,000 --> 02:47:34,960 could be at the Whipple House. It could be at the at the booster club. We're not 1958 02:47:33,200 --> 02:47:38,080 sure what we're going to do and we're going to ask the board of selective if 1959 02:47:36,240 --> 02:47:41,760 they put the founding documents of the board of selective meeting with when 1960 02:47:39,920 --> 02:47:46,160 we're finished with this project to be there permanently. 1961 02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:50,960 So I just want to let you know that it's a exciting year. I'm excited about it. I 1962 02:47:49,279 --> 02:47:55,760 hope everybody else is. >> Thanks Bob. 1963 02:47:53,600 --> 02:48:00,800 » Now entertain a motion to adjourn. Michelle 1964 02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:02,960 Michelle and second. >> All in favor of adjourning the meeting 1965 02:48:02,399 --> 02:48:05,920 say I. >> I. 1966 02:48:03,680 --> 02:48:10,640 » All opposed. >> Meeting adjourned. 1967 02:48:07,200 --> 02:48:10,640 » Nice job everybody.