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In progress,

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I call the regular meeting of the City

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of Ashland Planning Commission to order for June 9th, 2026.

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I will note that our meetings are available on Zoom

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and on RV tv.

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The public can find information on how

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to participate in planning commission meetings in our public

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notices, as well as directions on how

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to find the full meeting materials,

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applications, and staff reports.

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I note that we actually have seven

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of seven commissioners here tonight.

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Congratulations everybody. Staff announcements. Brandon,

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I have none.

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Thank you.

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Whoa. Okay, we have a consent agenda in front of us

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with approval of minutes for April 28th, May 12th

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and May 26th.

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Anybody have any questions or suggestions on the minutes?

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If not, I'll entertain a motion

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to approve the consent agenda.

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Move to approve consent agenda.

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Is there a second? Second.

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Wow. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. Aye.

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Aye. All those opposed? Motion passes public forum.

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We have a number of people in the audience

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that's really exciting.

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Let's see. I have five

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speaker requests form and they are all,

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well actually there's six.

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Five of them are for state that they're

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for the manufactured housing zoning.

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Nancy Wilson, did you wanna talk on manufactured housing

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or do you wanna talk on something else? No,

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I talk about manufactured Housing.

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Okay. We

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will move on to our,

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so is there anybody else in the audience?

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Is there anybody in the audience who wants to talk

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to us on something other than manufactured housing?

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Okay, come forward.

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I do. I see. I do.

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But there's a last

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chair order receipts.

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Okay. Okay.

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So nobody wants to talk

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to us on anything other than manufactured housing.

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Okay. We will move on to our hearing.

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We have a legislative public hearing in front of us.

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We're following the type three process tonight

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where the planning commission will hold a public hearing,

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take testimony and make a

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recommendation to the city council.

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We have our esteemed counselor here with us today. Tonight.

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The city of Ashland is the applicant

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and it is asking us to consider legislative amendments

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to the Ashland Municipal Code

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to establish a manufactured home park zone,

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an MPH zone and update development

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and design guide standards for manufactured housing

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for clear and objective standards,

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it's action PA dash L dash 2026 dash zero

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eight and it includes revisions to

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and 18 8 0.

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It also inc, those, excuse me,

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those are revisions to those statutes.

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Updates to A MC 18,

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which is the our PSO standards

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and 18, which is definitions

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adoption of a new chapter,

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establishing manufacturing manufactured home park

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zone provisions, rezoning existing manufactured home parks

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to the proposed manufactured housing home park zone.

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And we have an ordinance amending chapter

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10.6 0.116, establishing notice

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of sale and opportunity to purchase

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and relocation updates.

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So I will open the public hearing staff.

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Would you like to make a presentation?

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Thank you. Chair Commission.

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Tonight's staff is bringing forward a package

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of ordinance amendments implementing a priority action

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as identified in the city's housing production strategy,

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which was adopted by the city council in 2023.

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Specifically the preservation

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and modernization of manufactured home parks.

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So the manufactured home parks are an important part

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of Ashland's lower cost home ownership opportunities

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and housing stability within Ashland.

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However, the existing manufactured housing development

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standards have not been modified in over 30 years.

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And this project is intended to update those regulations

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both to comply with state law while complying

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or while creating a more effective tool for the

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and framework for park preservation and reinvestment.

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So the work has been supported through a grant

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through the Department of Land Conservation and Development

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and TLCD retained three J Consulting led by Scott

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Ragi and Journey Gehringer are joining us virtually

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to assist with the ordinance development

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and public engagement for this project.

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Their work's also been informed by the

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manufactured home park zone management advisory committee,

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which included park residents, housing professionals

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and other community stakeholders.

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We also, as you know, held the joint study session with the

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city's Housing and Human Services advisory committee,

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city Council and Planning Commission.

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And both the Planning commission and Housing

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and Human Services have had independent

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study sessions as well.

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So I wanted to outline The ordinance package really includes

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three primary components.

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First are as amendments

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to the city's manufactured housing development standards.

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And these changes incorporates state required updates

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including allowing additional housing types such

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as recreational vehicles

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and prefabricated units within manufactured home parks.

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The amendments also include changes intended

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to support park preservation

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and modernization, including flexibility

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for smaller housing units,

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relief from certain nonconformities

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or non-conforming situations for existing parks,

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and also providing limited allowances for

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park serving amenities such as clubhouses, office space

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or small commercial services primarily intended

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to support resident activity.

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Second item is that the establishment

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of a new manufactured home park zone

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and a corresponding comprehensive plan designation.

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So these new designations would be applied to

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existing manufactured home parks within the city

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and the urban growth boundary once they annex into the city,

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would be looked at for that manufactured home park zone.

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And the intent is that would better recognize

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that these communities as a distinct housing type

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and preserve them to

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continuously be manufactured home parks without

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the potential redevelopment under existing

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residential multifamily zoning.

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So the third is a separate ordinance is mending chapter 10

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of the municipal code to establish notice

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of sale requirements, opportunities for residents or

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or qu qualified entities to purchase

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and other tenant protections authorized under state law.

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I do want to note that in discussions

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with assistant city attorney Carmel ra,

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she is recommending further review

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because chapter 10 is

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outside the Ashland Land use Ordinance.

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I wanted to note that the planning commission is not

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required to make a formal recommendation on that section.

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However, the commission may provide recommendations

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or comments or recommended amendments, revisions,

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modifications for consideration

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by both the legal department and the city council.

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And so tonight, the planning commission's being asked

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to provide recommendations on all four ordinances

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and following your recommendations, they will be forwarded

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to the city council for first reading

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and review at a public hearing on June 16th, 2026.

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And with that introduction, I'll turn it over virtually

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to Scott and Journey for a brief overview

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of the proposed ordinance amendments.

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I would note that given the commission's prior study

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sessions and the extensive materials

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included in tonight's packet,

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their presentation will be focused on major changes

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and changes that occurred

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between the last time the planning commission saw it

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and currently, but provides an opportunity for questions

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before hearing testimony from the public.

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But if you have any questions of staff during or

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it's an opportunity for that as well.

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Thank you Scott.

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Great. Thank you Brandon and thank you chair

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and commission for having us tonight.

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It's a big night.

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This is the first formal meeting to adopt this

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new manufactured home park zone

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and updates are associated with it.

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We've been hard at work for, I don't know,

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9, 10, 11 months now.

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So it's great to be in front of you all.

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And as part of this adoption process,

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I'm gonna share my screen

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and go through a brief presentation

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and as Brandon mentioned, we will have plenty of time

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for interaction and questions.

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Okay. Hopefully that works for all and we could see that.

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Yes. Perfect.

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I'll start with a quick project overview and I apologize

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but Brandon and I have si think similarly obviously.

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And so I will be doing a little bit of repetitiveness,

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but I don't think that ever hurts.

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Again, some of the project background, this was part

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of your housing production strategy,

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particularly strategy DG, which was to maintain quality

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and support preservation

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of existing manufactured home parks.

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It was also mentioned that DLCD grant was received from the

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state to help pay for this technical assistance work

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that we are doing as consultants working on

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behalf of the city of Ashland.

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And part of this really is the goal

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to set some new standard design standards

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for manufactured home parks for density, lot size, setbacks,

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utilities, and also to allow

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for potential more density in different types of units.

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So that's kind of the some background there.

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In terms of engagement, we did quite a bit,

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we already talked a little bit about this,

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but we had a advisory committee

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that met three times over the course

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of the project to give feedback.

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They were park residents, we had a whole host of different

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committee that gave us feedbacks feedback

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through, through that process.

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It was also mentioned that we had a joint work session

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with Housing and Human Services Committee as well

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as the planning commission and city council on January 27th.

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We've had code changes reviewed

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by the committee on March 11th, our,

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our internal project committee on March 11th, the Housing

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and Human Services Committee on April 23rd

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and the PC on April 28th.

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So we've really tried hard to keep everyone abreast of the,

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of what we've been doing

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as we've moved through the planning process.

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And I think that that's been to our advantage

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because I, I hope you all feel very comfortable with

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where we are now in terms of moving into adoption.

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An online open house is available on the city website site

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that also has all the work products and materials.

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So we've been trying to be very transparent with that

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and post all the products as we move through this update.

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The survey was published on the website.

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It was open for April 27th to May 31st.

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About 46 people responded to that survey.

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So we have some good results for that.

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And that's also a publicly made available document if y'all

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interested in taking a look closer at that summary.

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So in terms of the manufactured home park zone

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we're looking at, it's proposed

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for five existing manufactured housing communities.

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Just to, as a reminder, three

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of those are located within the city limits.

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That's wing spread, Tollen Creek

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and the Ashland Urban RV Park,

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which actually I just wanted to note.

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That's a 2 78 Idaho.

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We have actually re met recommended removal of that one

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but is still is shown up in this.

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So I just wanted to highlight that two

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of the others are located within the urban growth boundary

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but outside of the city limits.

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And that's Siski Village and Na Navu Park.

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So that's just a reminder of what those proposed

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manufactured home park zones are looking at.

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I wanted to highlight the code changes that were made

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between the last planning commission meeting.

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These are things that came up during that meeting

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that we decided to change.

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So first was just a statement.

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We had the words financial burden in there

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and we changed that to proportionate impact

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'cause it's not always financial.

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So that was something that we wanted

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to be a little bit more broadened in terms of definition,

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we added childcare

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and residential facilities in the table under a MC 18.2

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0.2030.

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And that is to a use table that allows the updated

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to allow both those childcare and residential facilities.

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We updated, if you all recall, there was a con, a lot

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of conversation about how many days we would have available

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for the opportunity to purchase based on that conversation.

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We did increase it from 120 to 180 days.

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We also updated the landscaping

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and lot coverage to reflect the city recommendations.

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Originally we had it I think at 60% coverage

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and we've increased that to 65 and 35% must be landscape.

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So those are some clarifications there

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and didn't change much,

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but wanted to make sure we got that updated.

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And then in the limitation sections under the phase

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compliance, we removed limitations.

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Approval under subsections shall not allow an increase

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and the number of manufacturing was legally existing at the

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time when development became non-conforming.

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So that's specific to those non-conforming uses

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that are currently in place.

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So those are the main things we changed

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between the last meeting and now.

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And I'm gonna go through these again

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because I know not everyone has maybe seen them

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or we could just go through a refresher.

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But these are the proposed code changes in more detail

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that are that, that we're proposing as part of this update.

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So 18.2 0.2030,

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we added manufactured home park zone to allow

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to the allowed uses by zone table.

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So that allowed uses table was updated.

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Again, we updated the childcare facilities

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to be permitted on land zoned for multi-family residential

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or institutional uses.

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And that's just to be in compliance with House bill 35 60.

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So that was an important update.

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So we are in compliance with state law.

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Another one we updated to be in compliance with state law

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was residential treatment facilities

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and residential homes that we permitted on land zone

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for residential commercial employment, industrial

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and public lands, excluding parks to comply

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with house bill 2005.

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Now moving on for 18.2 0.370,

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we revised the standards

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for manufactured homes on individual lots to comply

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with state require clear

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and objective standards to comply

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with more house bill 2 7 2 3 4 7

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and OS 1 97 a 0.400

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Again, moving on, this is 18.80.

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This one we had six different updates in.

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We revise the manufactured housing development standards

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to implement update clear and objective standards.

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I know you hear that a lot.

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That's a big push that all

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of our ordinances are clear and objective.

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We updated density dimensional

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and urban design standards

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to support higher density manufactured housing developments.

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We remove lot size standards

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and instead reference applicable building

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and fire code requirements.

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So instead of saying a lot needs to be a specific size,

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we just said you gotta meet building and fire codes

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and setbacks will be determined by them.

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We reise maximum lot coverage standards to allow up

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to 65%, which I mentioned already.

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Updated setback standards to reference applicable building

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and fire code separation requirements

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and allowed limited encroachments porches

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and decks were compliant with applicable codes.

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And finally we updated private streets

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and circulation standards, including turnaround requirements

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to be consistent with fire codes.

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So that was pretty important too.

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But we really relied on existing building codes

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and fire codes rather than trying

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to write new specific codes in the zoning ordinance.

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Moving on again with 18.2 0.3 0.180,

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we added permanent possession in walkways

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and a DA requirements.

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Updated landscaping standards didn't require a minimum area

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of 35%, which I just mentioned as well.

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Updated common open space and amenity standards.

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We added standards for community serving buildings.

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Brandon mentioned this, but included things like clubhouse

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and accessory uses that may be commercial

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to utilize and revised manufactured housing unit standards,

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including removal of minimum lot size, width

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and patio requirements

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and allowed smaller units under 500 square feet

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to count towards the density calculations at a reduced ratio

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and revised standards applicable

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to non-conforming max manufactured housing developments

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to allow phased or partial compliance approaches.

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So that was really important too

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because rather than making a non-conforming use

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come into compliance for the entire air park,

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we said if you can show that you're gonna do phased

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or partial compliance, we can allow that.

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Okay, 18.3 0.9020

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we revised performance standards

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and that was mentioned also.

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So your your PSO performance standards, we, we

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and manufactured housing developments

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to use util also utilize those performance standards when,

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when applicable.

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And then 18.3 9.030 we added reference

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within the PSA overlay applicable standards.

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So just a note there,

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18.39040 revised outline plan procedures

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to exempt manufacture housing developments

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and cottage housing developments from certain

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plan approval submittal requirements.

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So this is a procedural thing that we needed to clean up

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to make sure that, that those types of procedures are

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requirements are met.

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18.8050 was a revised the annexation

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standards to exempt manufactured home parks from,

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from residential annexation affordability requirements

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and allow manufactured housing developments up

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to 18 dwelling units per acre upon annexation.

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We had a lot of discussion about this at previous meeting,

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so I hope you all recall how we landed on

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that 18 unit per acre when it's annexed,

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but it makes a lot of sense and it,

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and it matches what currently is allowed in the city limits.

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Okay, 18.6 0.0 an addition

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and we add, we add

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and revised definitions related to housing.

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So these are the definitions section.

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So we included manufactured dwellings,

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prefabricated dwellings, manufactured dwelling parks,

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recreational vehicles, and proportionate impact.

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So these are all terms that were currently

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defined or needed.

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The definitions updated. So that was done in that section.

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And then in 10.116 we added a new chapter.

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So this is your new chapter that, that is specific

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to standards related to manufactured home park sale closure,

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confer conversion and tenant protection.

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So this was an important one.

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This was one of the big things

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that we worked with the committee on.

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And you know, the idea here is that it gives an opportunity

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to purchase with provisions and relocation assistance

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and standards so that you can have

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that protection in place if there is a sale.

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And there is first right of fu refusal for

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for the park residence.

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Okay. And finally, I just wanted to remind everyone

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that a big piece of this also was introducing

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that new MHP zone, which also means updating your map

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and comp plan designations as was mentioned.

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So I know in your packet this map was included, it kind

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of highlights, I don't know if you can see some

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of these areas, but this dark brown is a new, you could see

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where it's been applied on those

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existing manufactured home arcs.

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And finally, next steps,

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I'll just jump on that really quick.

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It's really talking about adoption.

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So the next steps in this if, if

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planning commission proceeds to, to recommend approval

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of these updates

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and changes, we'd move into a city council study session

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on the 15th of this month,

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and then the first city council public hearing,

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first reading on the 16th.

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And then next July 21st we'd,

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we'd look at the second reading at the council

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for formal final adoption

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and then we can move into questions and comments.

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And I'll stop sharing my screen now.

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Thank you for allowing me to give a presentation

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and hopefully we, we can follow up

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with any necessary conversation.

456
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Any commissioners have questions

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for our panelists?

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We'll be here all night if they come up.

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Susan Just wanted

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to check my understanding on the first set of changes

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that there were a couple of items there that were

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to update compliance with state law,

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but not specific to mobile home parks.

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Is that true that they're just being

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done as part of this process?

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Yes, that is true.

467
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So there's a few things that, you know, as we're doing this,

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we realize that it was, it was important

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that we make those changes now because we're doing this.

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So it was, we thought that, you know, for example,

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I think you're referring to the childcare facilities

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and residential facilities as well for residential homes,

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basically for your, your replying to those.

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So yeah, we, those are really code cleanups and we felt like

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because we're focused on housing

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and this was driven by your, your, your, your housing goals

477
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that made sense to do that as part of this process as well.

478
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Thanks for for asking that question.

479
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Yeah. And you can find those changes in the table.

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18.2 0.2 0.030 uses allowed by zone.

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If you look at residential care facilities,

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we previously required a conditional use permit,

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but now they're permitted outright.

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And the same is true for childcare facilities.

485
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There were a number of zones in which we required a

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conditional use permit.

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And so that's an added planning process,

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including requirements for one

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and R one, 3.5, R two, R three,

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and rural residential.

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All would require a conditional use permit.

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But those have all been changed

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to be permitted outright in all residential zones.

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I would note that one area of that section

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of code on childcare facilities is state law does not

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require that the city make them outright permitted in single

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family R one zones.

498
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But that is the recommendation in this ordinance change.

499
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So that part is discretionary.

500
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Anybody else have any comments? Que questions?

501
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Okay, well thank you very much.

502
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Thank you. Okay, let's move on

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to public testimony.

504
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Okay. Jerry Berger,

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anywhere close to that, come over there to the,

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to the podium and state your name and address please.

507
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And you have five minutes.

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Jerry Berger.

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2 2 5 3 Highway 99 North in Ashland.

510
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Thank you for entertaining this public comment

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and for doing what you do.

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Manufactured home parks provide an important source

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of naturally occurring affordable housing.

514
00:27:04,485 --> 00:27:06,445
Ashland's housing production strategy

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identifies the city's key housing priority

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and goal of providing a means for preserving

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and expanding low income housing units in the city

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and in the urban growth boundary.

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Although shortsighted and,

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and certain to fail ashland's goal

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and efforts to ensure affordable housing are noteworthy

522
00:27:32,025 --> 00:27:36,605
and to be commended, a higher percentage

523
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of low income housing

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00:27:38,705 --> 00:27:41,845
and mobile homes reside in high risk, high

525
00:27:42,635 --> 00:27:45,445
risk flood zones compared to

526
00:27:46,065 --> 00:27:47,805
higher income properties.

527
00:27:48,225 --> 00:27:52,125
As a result, low income families are more vulnerable

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to high water events as compared to the general population.

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00:27:57,745 --> 00:28:00,565
Global warming resulted in rising sea levels

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and increasing water vapor in the atmosphere is responsible

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for inland storms and atmospheric rivers.

532
00:28:08,425 --> 00:28:09,725
The likes this county,

533
00:28:09,995 --> 00:28:13,725
this country has not witnessed in several hundred years,

534
00:28:15,295 --> 00:28:18,445
these events contribute to a perfect storm insult

535
00:28:18,665 --> 00:28:20,245
to low income families

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and their precious financial resources.

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00:28:23,865 --> 00:28:27,245
The result of acceler accelerating flooding events,

538
00:28:27,765 --> 00:28:29,845
property loss, chronic displacement

539
00:28:29,945 --> 00:28:34,925
and health hazards raising ranging from mold to drowning.

540
00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:38,685
Bottom line, low income housing faces

541
00:28:39,205 --> 00:28:41,045
compounding risks from floods

542
00:28:42,185 --> 00:28:45,725
as lower income neighborhoods are disproportionately located

543
00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:47,645
in or near Floodways.

544
00:28:47,865 --> 00:28:52,045
And floodplains said differently over time,

545
00:28:53,105 --> 00:28:55,445
the poor continue to get poorer.

546
00:28:58,185 --> 00:29:01,325
Within Ashland's urban growth boundary,

547
00:29:01,425 --> 00:29:04,765
two mobile home parks situated within the proposed new

548
00:29:04,765 --> 00:29:08,525
mobile home zoning district are further compromised

549
00:29:08,585 --> 00:29:11,645
by adverse risk to low income families

550
00:29:12,355 --> 00:29:14,525
resulting from poor decision making

551
00:29:15,195 --> 00:29:19,525
that resulted from the removal of flood floodway territories

552
00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:21,685
that enable flood waters

553
00:29:21,685 --> 00:29:24,285
to expand within the banks of Bear Creek.

554
00:29:26,725 --> 00:29:30,125
I am addressing the build out of the bicycle path

555
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:34,645
of the Rogue Valley Greenway in 19 98, 1 year following the

556
00:29:34,645 --> 00:29:38,405
New Year's flood of 1997 that devastated Navu

557
00:29:38,985 --> 00:29:42,085
and Jackson Well Springs mobile home parks.

558
00:29:43,345 --> 00:29:47,125
The 70 plus units family dwelling units destroyed

559
00:29:47,125 --> 00:29:51,085
or negatively impacted by the high water event of 1997

560
00:29:51,905 --> 00:29:55,245
are in a more precarious situation today than they were

561
00:29:55,865 --> 00:29:57,485
at the time of the New Year's flood.

562
00:29:58,645 --> 00:30:00,685
A no rise analysis, a state

563
00:30:00,745 --> 00:30:03,485
and federal requirement, a FEMA requirement

564
00:30:03,545 --> 00:30:06,405
of construction projects performed within the floodway

565
00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:09,005
to ensure that flood waters remain in the channels

566
00:30:09,005 --> 00:30:13,445
of Bear Creek was not performed in the short term.

567
00:30:14,385 --> 00:30:15,725
The increasing inventory

568
00:30:15,785 --> 00:30:19,205
of low income houses in Ashland will claim,

569
00:30:20,795 --> 00:30:24,525
will claim by adopting the land use actions looks very good

570
00:30:25,755 --> 00:30:28,325
when in reality the number of low income houses

571
00:30:28,435 --> 00:30:31,805
that Ashland will lose, not if it floods,

572
00:30:31,805 --> 00:30:35,205
but when it floods, will be even more devastating

573
00:30:35,205 --> 00:30:39,405
to low income residents of Ashland and Jackson County.

574
00:30:40,295 --> 00:30:44,645
Until the illegal actions conducted in 1998 is corrected,

575
00:30:45,505 --> 00:30:47,365
the poor will continue to get poor

576
00:30:47,585 --> 00:30:49,125
and the property damage lost

577
00:30:49,125 --> 00:30:52,245
to flooding will become increasingly more devastating.

578
00:30:53,795 --> 00:30:56,285
Happily, there are solutions

579
00:30:56,285 --> 00:30:58,085
that will mitigate the perfect storm

580
00:30:58,305 --> 00:31:00,285
and greatly reduce the risk of flooding

581
00:31:00,385 --> 00:31:02,205
and damage to health and property.

582
00:31:03,385 --> 00:31:06,485
In fact, a mitigation project, that promo

583
00:31:06,485 --> 00:31:10,685
that protects affordable housing at this location, a goal

584
00:31:10,905 --> 00:31:15,005
of creating a new zoning district comes at a lower price tag

585
00:31:15,115 --> 00:31:18,085
than the amount recently spent on sidewalks

586
00:31:18,085 --> 00:31:22,805
and cross rock crossways crosswalks at this intersection

587
00:31:22,945 --> 00:31:25,565
and neighborhood sideways sidewalks.

588
00:31:28,755 --> 00:31:30,725
Also, it comes at a

589
00:31:32,415 --> 00:31:34,525
lower price tag than the money

590
00:31:34,525 --> 00:31:37,205
that ODOT has been spending on a string

591
00:31:37,265 --> 00:31:40,125
of small piecemeal projects over the decades.

592
00:31:42,105 --> 00:31:44,365
The question arises is Ashland

593
00:31:44,365 --> 00:31:46,645
and Jackson County looking for a quick fix

594
00:31:47,385 --> 00:31:51,325
or a long-term solution to housing, to a housing crisis

595
00:31:51,435 --> 00:31:54,325
that allows financially disadvantaged families

596
00:31:54,425 --> 00:31:59,005
to pick themselves up as opposed to being swept downstream.

597
00:31:59,335 --> 00:32:00,565
Thank you for your attention.

598
00:32:02,495 --> 00:32:03,445
Thank you very much.

599
00:32:08,435 --> 00:32:09,445
Rich roadie?

600
00:32:13,185 --> 00:32:13,405
No,

601
00:32:28,955 --> 00:32:29,955
Rich roadie.

602
00:32:29,955 --> 00:32:31,845
1 24 Ohio. I've spoken before,

603
00:32:32,385 --> 00:32:36,845
but I'd like to say some words in support of this

604
00:32:38,395 --> 00:32:40,245
ordinance that you have before you.

605
00:32:40,445 --> 00:32:43,165
I just wanted to say that it's been a long time coming,

606
00:32:43,275 --> 00:32:47,165
it's been at least three years since the idea came down from

607
00:32:47,405 --> 00:32:52,245
Portland and people gathered from many

608
00:32:52,245 --> 00:32:54,405
of the mobile parks here to see what we could do.

609
00:32:54,505 --> 00:32:57,685
We took it to candidates that were running

610
00:32:58,425 --> 00:33:02,165
and we were convinced that a better way of

611
00:33:02,345 --> 00:33:04,725
of coming up with this was to go

612
00:33:04,725 --> 00:33:06,565
through the housing production strategy,

613
00:33:06,765 --> 00:33:08,085
a longer term process.

614
00:33:08,825 --> 00:33:12,365
But it, I think what we see today is a product of

615
00:33:12,475 --> 00:33:16,725
that longer term coming up with a quality product

616
00:33:16,755 --> 00:33:20,165
that we can all support the,

617
00:33:20,415 --> 00:33:22,845
going into the housing production strategy.

618
00:33:23,465 --> 00:33:28,365
It was rated the number one priority in the list of eight

619
00:33:28,365 --> 00:33:32,125
or nine housing production strategies that we adopted.

620
00:33:32,585 --> 00:33:36,325
And as I recall, it was adopted unanimously at all the

621
00:33:36,325 --> 00:33:38,885
stages that have gone through.

622
00:33:39,425 --> 00:33:43,245
So what you're seeing today is the product of

623
00:33:44,025 --> 00:33:47,045
the great work of fris group

624
00:33:47,265 --> 00:33:51,085
of people coming together from different mobile parks from

625
00:33:51,105 --> 00:33:52,525
the public and,

626
00:33:53,185 --> 00:33:58,045
and particularly the housing staff here at the city

627
00:33:58,545 --> 00:34:03,005
to come up with a really great product that I,

628
00:34:03,085 --> 00:34:04,365
I hope that you can support.

629
00:34:04,545 --> 00:34:08,205
So I, I would just only add a big thank you

630
00:34:09,585 --> 00:34:12,365
in advance for that work.

631
00:34:12,455 --> 00:34:16,445
Thank you to the FRI folks and thank you to Brandon

632
00:34:16,585 --> 00:34:19,125
and others that really have helped guide this.

633
00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:22,925
And a big thanks to the folks from

634
00:34:23,515 --> 00:34:26,605
different mobile parks that have kind of stuck through this

635
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,205
to get it where we are.

636
00:34:28,865 --> 00:34:31,645
So I hope you'll pass it unanimously

637
00:34:31,865 --> 00:34:34,965
and we can take it to the city council with confidence.

638
00:34:34,965 --> 00:34:35,965
Thank you.

639
00:34:37,175 --> 00:34:38,165
Thank you very much.

640
00:34:45,695 --> 00:34:46,745
Deborah Stamp

641
00:34:47,435 --> 00:34:48,435
Stand please.

642
00:34:58,175 --> 00:35:01,825
Deborah Stampley from Wing Spread 3, 2, 1 Clay Street.

643
00:35:03,035 --> 00:35:04,425
Thank you. Thank you all.

644
00:35:04,575 --> 00:35:07,905
It's taken a lot of time and energy and this is my life.

645
00:35:08,175 --> 00:35:10,385
This is my sanctuary we're talking about.

646
00:35:10,925 --> 00:35:12,625
So I can't thank you enough.

647
00:35:13,595 --> 00:35:15,825
Everything is subject to change.

648
00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:17,505
It's been a long time coming.

649
00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:21,025
Some of the things that you proposed are a little hard

650
00:35:21,525 --> 00:35:24,865
to swallow, but on the other hand, I think

651
00:35:26,495 --> 00:35:31,105
that they're very reasonable to consider

652
00:35:31,165 --> 00:35:32,425
and we need to look at them.

653
00:35:33,085 --> 00:35:36,305
So my concern is, this is my nest egg.

654
00:35:36,605 --> 00:35:39,885
We are investors in some of the mobile home parks in most

655
00:35:39,885 --> 00:35:42,085
of them, and this is my nest egg

656
00:35:42,305 --> 00:35:45,925
and mobile's homes is sort of an antiquated term

657
00:35:46,435 --> 00:35:49,525
because they cannot be moved easily.

658
00:35:50,145 --> 00:35:51,805
And then where would we move them to?

659
00:35:54,665 --> 00:35:59,605
And it has been a win-win generally in wing spread for

660
00:36:00,325 --> 00:36:03,205
a balance between the owners and the managers

661
00:36:03,385 --> 00:36:05,925
and the renters.

662
00:36:05,955 --> 00:36:07,645
I've been there 20 years maybe I said.

663
00:36:08,665 --> 00:36:10,445
So again,

664
00:36:11,385 --> 00:36:15,485
the concern is our investment Now, the average sale

665
00:36:15,485 --> 00:36:17,405
of a home is $130,000.

666
00:36:17,505 --> 00:36:18,925
So it's not pocket change.

667
00:36:20,865 --> 00:36:25,765
And the reality

668
00:36:26,265 --> 00:36:30,605
of purchasing the park is just

669
00:36:32,765 --> 00:36:35,685
concerning even at 180 days.

670
00:36:35,695 --> 00:36:40,405
Thank you very much because large investment groups tend

671
00:36:40,405 --> 00:36:42,525
to outbid the locals.

672
00:36:43,185 --> 00:36:44,685
So again, just to state that

673
00:36:45,545 --> 00:36:50,525
and great work, I think it will all come to a reasonable

674
00:36:51,525 --> 00:36:53,485
position, a win-win for all of us.

675
00:36:55,455 --> 00:36:59,805
Thank you. Thank you very much.

676
00:37:04,415 --> 00:37:05,415
Peter Hoyt.

677
00:37:16,095 --> 00:37:20,765
Peter Hoyt, 3, 2, 1 Clay Street Space 25.

678
00:37:22,275 --> 00:37:24,645
Good evening and thank you for the opportunity

679
00:37:24,645 --> 00:37:25,965
to share my thoughts with you.

680
00:37:27,885 --> 00:37:31,325
I have lived here in the Rogue Valley for 38 years,

681
00:37:32,705 --> 00:37:35,125
12 of that here in Ashland

682
00:37:35,345 --> 00:37:39,565
and the last seven in wing spread mobile home park.

683
00:37:40,865 --> 00:37:44,725
I'm 80 years old, I'm retired, I'm a veteran.

684
00:37:45,145 --> 00:37:47,805
As our many of my friends

685
00:37:47,825 --> 00:37:51,005
and neighbors who also live in wing spread.

686
00:37:54,415 --> 00:37:58,645
About 80% of my monthly budget is my social security check.

687
00:38:00,005 --> 00:38:04,165
I really couldn't live anywhere else in Ashland.

688
00:38:04,565 --> 00:38:07,285
I hear the term affordable housing

689
00:38:08,075 --> 00:38:09,405
bandied about quite a bit.

690
00:38:10,135 --> 00:38:14,925
There truly is no more affordable housing than living in a

691
00:38:15,465 --> 00:38:16,565
mobile home park,

692
00:38:17,885 --> 00:38:21,045
although, as Debra mentioned, that is an outdated term.

693
00:38:21,915 --> 00:38:24,965
They may have been mobile when they came in the gate,

694
00:38:25,665 --> 00:38:27,605
but once they've been put on a foundation

695
00:38:27,785 --> 00:38:29,925
and left to sit for years

696
00:38:30,345 --> 00:38:33,485
or decades, they start falling apart.

697
00:38:33,865 --> 00:38:38,365
And with luck, maybe one in 10

698
00:38:38,705 --> 00:38:40,245
of the homes in Wing spread

699
00:38:40,815 --> 00:38:43,045
could make it out the gate in one piece.

700
00:38:43,995 --> 00:38:46,965
Most of them, I'm afraid, would just be left behind

701
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:51,365
to the bulldozers and the owners would get nothing for all

702
00:38:51,365 --> 00:38:53,605
of their time that they put into it.

703
00:38:56,125 --> 00:39:00,445
I believe passing this is very important

704
00:39:01,545 --> 00:39:03,765
to preserve what we have

705
00:39:04,395 --> 00:39:08,525
because without it, the land

706
00:39:09,015 --> 00:39:11,125
underneath our homes

707
00:39:11,625 --> 00:39:16,445
and they are homes is much more valuable if it's turned

708
00:39:16,755 --> 00:39:20,085
into stick-built condos or housing.

709
00:39:20,745 --> 00:39:24,885
So the sale of the park to somebody like that would mean

710
00:39:25,475 --> 00:39:28,405
most of the residents just have to pack their bags

711
00:39:28,905 --> 00:39:30,765
and leave without their homes.

712
00:39:33,305 --> 00:39:36,005
Th that's basically all I have to say on the matter.

713
00:39:36,015 --> 00:39:37,015
Thank you very much.

714
00:39:38,335 --> 00:39:39,325
Thank you very much.

715
00:39:44,045 --> 00:39:45,045
David Wright.

716
00:39:55,875 --> 00:39:58,995
Good evening. My name is Dave Wright.

717
00:39:59,515 --> 00:40:03,035
I am the agent for Wing Spread LLC,

718
00:40:04,135 --> 00:40:07,115
the ownership of Wing Spread Mobile Home Park,

719
00:40:07,315 --> 00:40:11,035
manufactured Home Park 3 21 Clay Street.

720
00:40:11,895 --> 00:40:14,035
And the general manager, Hank Hampton

721
00:40:15,495 --> 00:40:17,875
of Wing Spread LLC is not able to be here tonight,

722
00:40:17,895 --> 00:40:19,995
but wanted me to to come speak.

723
00:40:20,135 --> 00:40:21,235
He did submit a letter

724
00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:24,795
and he just wanted to make sure, I think that got put out

725
00:40:24,795 --> 00:40:25,995
to all the commission.

726
00:40:26,455 --> 00:40:27,555
If not, I'll leave it.

727
00:40:28,995 --> 00:40:33,275
I think By the way, the wing spread, LLC appreciates being

728
00:40:34,055 --> 00:40:37,355
the owners of Wing spread and have been for many years.

729
00:40:37,975 --> 00:40:39,755
The park is 65 years old,

730
00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:41,435
I believe they appreciate the residents

731
00:40:41,495 --> 00:40:45,075
and so it's been a good working relationship there.

732
00:40:46,415 --> 00:40:47,715
One thing that is concerning

733
00:40:47,815 --> 00:40:49,675
for the park owners they wanted me

734
00:40:49,675 --> 00:40:51,355
to communicate is the extending

735
00:40:51,355 --> 00:40:53,355
of the state statute on the first right

736
00:40:53,355 --> 00:40:56,755
of refusal period from the current state statute

737
00:40:56,935 --> 00:40:58,435
to 180 days now.

738
00:40:59,055 --> 00:41:02,755
And so the, the problem that they see with

739
00:41:02,755 --> 00:41:06,035
that is it could be harmful to the owner and residence if

740
00:41:06,715 --> 00:41:08,475
'cause it would risk a potential sale.

741
00:41:08,905 --> 00:41:10,915
Some buyers aren't gonna wanna wait around for that,

742
00:41:11,455 --> 00:41:14,115
or if it's in escrow, that's a long escrow period

743
00:41:14,115 --> 00:41:15,235
before they would even know whether

744
00:41:15,235 --> 00:41:16,395
they have a chance to buy it.

745
00:41:16,455 --> 00:41:19,235
So that's a concern for the, for the owners.

746
00:41:19,735 --> 00:41:21,275
And you know, I think

747
00:41:22,035 --> 00:41:24,435
thinking if there's a financial hardship issue

748
00:41:24,435 --> 00:41:25,875
with a future park owner

749
00:41:27,455 --> 00:41:30,595
and they have to try and sell it

750
00:41:30,595 --> 00:41:33,270
and this maybe makes it more difficult to sell sell,

751
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:35,605
that could end up forcing a closure

752
00:41:35,625 --> 00:41:37,645
of the park when they wouldn't wanna see that.

753
00:41:39,105 --> 00:41:41,205
So they would like to ask the commission

754
00:41:41,205 --> 00:41:45,005
to consider a more reasonable like 30, 60 days for a period

755
00:41:45,025 --> 00:41:46,205
of first right of refusal.

756
00:41:46,825 --> 00:41:49,245
And then something I think the ownership would like more

757
00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:52,125
clarity on, and maybe it's in the, in the code, is that

758
00:41:52,655 --> 00:41:55,405
since Wing spread and Tolman Creek appear to be the only two

759
00:41:56,415 --> 00:41:58,325
parks that are gonna be brought into this new zoning,

760
00:42:00,265 --> 00:42:02,365
it appears to automatically be non-conforming.

761
00:42:02,825 --> 00:42:07,165
And so what does that mean for the residents

762
00:42:07,165 --> 00:42:10,005
and the ownership and management going forward?

763
00:42:11,345 --> 00:42:13,525
If a, if a park home has to be pulled out

764
00:42:13,625 --> 00:42:16,925
and a new one put in, does that mean that it's gonna be set

765
00:42:16,925 --> 00:42:17,965
to these new standards?

766
00:42:17,965 --> 00:42:21,765
And if that doesn't, doesn't fit in in the space

767
00:42:21,785 --> 00:42:24,245
or the park the way it's set up that, you know, what does

768
00:42:24,245 --> 00:42:27,325
that mean for the park going forward?

769
00:42:27,665 --> 00:42:30,485
So those kind of things he'd like a little more clarity on

770
00:42:30,985 --> 00:42:33,165
as far as an a non-conforming park.

771
00:42:34,355 --> 00:42:38,885
With that, I appreciate your time and good evening.

772
00:42:41,215 --> 00:42:44,045
Thank you very much. Excuse me, I'm gonna take a break

773
00:42:44,305 --> 00:42:48,405
and I'm going to pull down those window shades because there

774
00:42:50,345 --> 00:42:50,765
Carrie,

775
00:42:57,275 --> 00:42:58,275
It's Carrie.

776
00:42:58,555 --> 00:43:02,125
It's one first one on the next bank. Yep. That one there.

777
00:43:02,225 --> 00:43:03,325
No, no, keep going.

778
00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:04,965
We'll do all of,

779
00:43:05,555 --> 00:43:10,125
Okay, thank you.

780
00:43:18,915 --> 00:43:19,925
Okay, Nancy Wilson.

781
00:43:29,505 --> 00:43:30,885
My name is Nancy Wilson.

782
00:43:31,325 --> 00:43:34,485
I live at Wing Spread Park at 3 21 Clay Street

783
00:43:36,425 --> 00:43:39,405
And I have lived there for 20 years, 21 years now.

784
00:43:39,945 --> 00:43:44,765
And so it's home and I am greatly invested in it

785
00:43:44,905 --> 00:43:49,125
and as Deborah said, it's, it's my nest egg.

786
00:43:49,565 --> 00:43:51,005
I am almost 73

787
00:43:51,385 --> 00:43:56,045
and hope to be able to stay there until I can't take care

788
00:43:56,045 --> 00:43:57,045
of myself anymore.

789
00:43:58,465 --> 00:44:02,925
If I needed to buy some kind of housing

790
00:44:03,525 --> 00:44:06,405
situation in Ashland, I would not be able to afford to.

791
00:44:08,085 --> 00:44:11,685
I think I'm too old to like rent a room in someone's house.

792
00:44:13,925 --> 00:44:15,565
I hope it doesn't come to that.

793
00:44:18,085 --> 00:44:21,805
I just want to say that if you can protect

794
00:44:23,135 --> 00:44:25,675
our homes by changing the zoning

795
00:44:26,535 --> 00:44:30,315
and trying to make sure that we continue to have

796
00:44:30,975 --> 00:44:32,805
affordable housing in Ashland,

797
00:44:33,735 --> 00:44:35,515
it would mean a lot to a lot of people.

798
00:44:36,305 --> 00:44:39,555
There's so much talk about creating affordable housing

799
00:44:40,535 --> 00:44:43,875
and mobile homes, manufactured homes I should say

800
00:44:44,975 --> 00:44:46,795
are really good homes

801
00:44:48,815 --> 00:44:51,515
and we feel really lucky to have ours.

802
00:44:52,975 --> 00:44:55,755
So that's it. Thank you very much.

803
00:44:57,445 --> 00:44:57,915
Thank you.

804
00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:11,165
David Allen,

805
00:45:21,035 --> 00:45:22,035
I am David Allen.

806
00:45:22,035 --> 00:45:23,435
I just wanna to thank Brandon Goldman.

807
00:45:23,435 --> 00:45:27,715
I met with him and sort of taking 2 78 Idaho recommending

808
00:45:27,715 --> 00:45:30,955
that it not be included in the manufacture home parks

809
00:45:30,955 --> 00:45:32,875
because of many different things.

810
00:45:33,455 --> 00:45:35,115
And I just wanna say thank you very much

811
00:45:35,335 --> 00:45:38,395
and I really appreciate you spending the time with me

812
00:45:39,415 --> 00:45:41,435
and trying to let me understand what was going on.

813
00:45:41,645 --> 00:45:42,645
Thank you.

814
00:45:49,705 --> 00:45:51,315
That was very nice. Thank you very much.

815
00:45:55,385 --> 00:45:56,385
Alan Roy,

816
00:46:07,755 --> 00:46:08,755
I am Alan Aykroyd.

817
00:46:08,755 --> 00:46:11,595
I live in Wings Spirit Mobile Home Park 3 21 Clay Street.

818
00:46:12,525 --> 00:46:15,555
First of all, I wanna thank City Council

819
00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:19,475
and all the advisory groups that put in so much time

820
00:46:19,475 --> 00:46:21,795
and effort into drafting this legislation.

821
00:46:22,375 --> 00:46:25,715
We really appreciate it as residents of mobile home parks

822
00:46:26,105 --> 00:46:31,035
because as has been amply demonstrated, we really don't have

823
00:46:31,035 --> 00:46:33,555
that many options to stay in Ashland.

824
00:46:34,095 --> 00:46:38,675
And indeed, if the park does become for sale,

825
00:46:39,795 --> 00:46:44,195
I think 180 days is actually not enough time

826
00:46:44,615 --> 00:46:49,475
to actually gather resident looking

827
00:46:49,535 --> 00:46:51,155
at their finances very carefully.

828
00:46:51,155 --> 00:46:54,315
And can they afford X amount divvied up among in,

829
00:46:54,615 --> 00:46:57,195
in wings spread at least among a hundred, you know, units

830
00:46:57,255 --> 00:47:00,275
or so to come up with the millions

831
00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:02,715
of dollars necessary in order to purchase the part.

832
00:47:03,215 --> 00:47:06,995
So I would actually lobby for a longer period

833
00:47:07,135 --> 00:47:08,435
of right of refusal.

834
00:47:08,855 --> 00:47:11,835
But we do appreciate, you know, what has been done thus far.

835
00:47:13,735 --> 00:47:17,435
I'm also very glad to hear that the owners are responding.

836
00:47:17,875 --> 00:47:21,115
I was not really sure exactly how much

837
00:47:23,035 --> 00:47:26,875
feedback has been given the committees by the owners,

838
00:47:26,975 --> 00:47:29,485
so I'm, I'm glad that they're actually thinking

839
00:47:29,485 --> 00:47:30,765
about it at the very least.

840
00:47:31,345 --> 00:47:36,205
And I just wonder if there's a formal forum as such

841
00:47:36,825 --> 00:47:41,125
for interaction between the owners and the city council

842
00:47:41,745 --> 00:47:43,285
and maybe even representatives

843
00:47:43,665 --> 00:47:45,205
of the mobile home parks themselves.

844
00:47:46,005 --> 00:47:49,405
I think that that discussion would be very valuable to have.

845
00:47:50,725 --> 00:47:53,485
I don't know the legal ramifications of what's being done.

846
00:47:54,315 --> 00:47:58,125
Obviously the city has legal right to

847
00:47:58,785 --> 00:48:01,325
do zoning as it sees fit, I'm assuming,

848
00:48:01,865 --> 00:48:05,885
but I don't know whether there's a legal aspect

849
00:48:05,885 --> 00:48:07,725
that might be disputed by the owners.

850
00:48:08,365 --> 00:48:10,165
I would like to be more informed about that.

851
00:48:10,355 --> 00:48:14,325
Also, I guess in conclusion, I'm just really grateful for

852
00:48:15,145 --> 00:48:18,285
the opportunity you're giving us to feel a bit more secure

853
00:48:19,945 --> 00:48:21,005
in our living spaces.

854
00:48:21,265 --> 00:48:25,245
And like I say, if it's suddenly got sold under our feet,

855
00:48:25,695 --> 00:48:28,405
you'd have a lot of homeless people basically on your hands.

856
00:48:28,505 --> 00:48:30,605
So it, it really is an important thing to us

857
00:48:31,065 --> 00:48:32,725
and to the community as a whole.

858
00:48:33,385 --> 00:48:35,165
And I guess the last thing I wanna say,

859
00:48:35,225 --> 00:48:38,765
and this really is the last, in addition to

860
00:48:39,325 --> 00:48:42,245
flooding aspects, the wildfire aspects are really

861
00:48:42,585 --> 00:48:44,645
of great concern to us in wing spread

862
00:48:44,645 --> 00:48:48,125
because we have over a hundred units and only one outlet.

863
00:48:48,665 --> 00:48:51,445
And I can just imagine if there was an emergency

864
00:48:51,915 --> 00:48:53,885
that required evacuation of the park,

865
00:48:54,435 --> 00:48:56,645
that it would be extremely difficult to get

866
00:48:56,645 --> 00:48:59,205
that many vehicles out onto Clay Street,

867
00:48:59,205 --> 00:49:02,125
where in addition there's a new development going on there

868
00:49:02,275 --> 00:49:03,325
also, as you may know.

869
00:49:03,785 --> 00:49:06,645
And it's just gonna be mayhem if we have

870
00:49:06,645 --> 00:49:08,485
to get everybody out in a timely manner.

871
00:49:08,625 --> 00:49:11,965
So I like that also to be known. Thank you very much.

872
00:49:14,335 --> 00:49:15,365
Thank you as well.

873
00:49:19,275 --> 00:49:21,765
Does anybody else wish to speak to the Planning Commission?

874
00:49:23,815 --> 00:49:25,705
Well, I'd like to thank all of you for being here

875
00:49:25,705 --> 00:49:28,225
and for coming forward and speaking to us, giving us,

876
00:49:28,245 --> 00:49:29,585
giving us your opinions.

877
00:49:29,615 --> 00:49:30,465
It's been very helpful.

878
00:49:37,695 --> 00:49:40,865
Does the commission have any questions to ask any

879
00:49:40,865 --> 00:49:42,465
of the speakers

880
00:49:45,995 --> 00:49:46,995
Chair?

881
00:49:46,995 --> 00:49:46,995
Yeah, sure.

882
00:49:55,595 --> 00:49:57,985
David Allen, we're in receipt of your letter.

883
00:49:58,955 --> 00:50:01,225
Could I just confirm that the date was for

884
00:50:01,885 --> 00:50:04,305
May 31st, 2026?

885
00:50:04,925 --> 00:50:05,925
Yes. Thank you.

886
00:50:07,725 --> 00:50:09,825
That's it. No, yeah, Thank you.

887
00:50:10,965 --> 00:50:12,905
No, I'm sure that's correct. Yeah.

888
00:50:15,215 --> 00:50:17,385
Anybody else? Why is that the,

889
00:50:18,125 --> 00:50:19,705
You had 2036 on there

890
00:50:19,845 --> 00:50:22,665
and I just wanted to correct the record so that we're,

891
00:50:23,205 --> 00:50:24,505
you know, we're still alive.

892
00:50:26,065 --> 00:50:27,025
I was born in three Six

893
00:50:27,325 --> 00:50:31,165
I, anyway.

894
00:50:31,295 --> 00:50:33,085
Thank you. It's 26. Yeah, thank you.

895
00:50:36,395 --> 00:50:37,925
Anybody else have any questions

896
00:50:38,025 --> 00:50:41,525
or points that discuss?

897
00:50:41,755 --> 00:50:44,045
Okay, then I will go ahead and close the public hearing

898
00:50:45,945 --> 00:50:48,165
and we will move on to deliberations.

899
00:50:50,345 --> 00:50:50,805
We have

900
00:50:56,035 --> 00:50:57,805
several ordinances in front of us.

901
00:50:58,795 --> 00:51:02,605
Anybody wanna start? What's your pleasure

902
00:51:05,575 --> 00:51:06,575
Chair?

903
00:51:06,575 --> 00:51:08,885
Can I suggest that we talk about each ordinance in turn

904
00:51:09,165 --> 00:51:12,645
Individually Rather than, you know, so just

905
00:51:12,645 --> 00:51:15,325
to keep the, some level of structure and Okay.

906
00:51:15,535 --> 00:51:16,845
Order to the conversation

907
00:51:18,905 --> 00:51:19,905
You wanna start?

908
00:51:19,905 --> 00:51:21,205
Okay. And so to that point,

909
00:51:24,325 --> 00:51:27,725
I guess I'll start at the top with 32 with ordinance,

910
00:51:27,725 --> 00:51:28,845
ordinance 3, 2, 9, 6.

911
00:51:29,115 --> 00:51:33,845
Okay. And this is the code revision

912
00:51:33,845 --> 00:51:38,445
dealing with manufactured home development or parks.

913
00:51:39,105 --> 00:51:42,685
And I want first to be

914
00:51:43,235 --> 00:51:46,125
sure about the meaning of some swing phrases here.

915
00:51:46,865 --> 00:51:51,365
And in particular, like a manufactured dwelling part got

916
00:51:52,475 --> 00:51:56,205
defined by HB 4 0 6 4.

917
00:51:56,345 --> 00:51:58,805
In fact, representative March put in a lot of work

918
00:52:00,185 --> 00:52:02,245
to add those definitions to state law

919
00:52:02,665 --> 00:52:05,725
and to ensure that a manufactured dwelling would include a

920
00:52:05,725 --> 00:52:07,645
prefabricated dwelling.

921
00:52:08,485 --> 00:52:10,365
I just wanna make sure that the policy

922
00:52:10,505 --> 00:52:12,485
as it's drafted here would reflect

923
00:52:12,625 --> 00:52:16,925
or be consistent with the intent of, of that bill

924
00:52:18,745 --> 00:52:21,005
and to ensure that any outdated

925
00:52:22,025 --> 00:52:23,805
or no longer useful

926
00:52:25,285 --> 00:52:27,085
language is excised from it.

927
00:52:27,305 --> 00:52:29,565
For example, I see in the

928
00:52:30,405 --> 00:52:32,205
revised definitions on total page 70

929
00:52:32,675 --> 00:52:36,685
that the manufactured housing development, quote unquote,

930
00:52:37,535 --> 00:52:40,765
would be excised from this proposed policy.

931
00:52:40,865 --> 00:52:41,865
Is that right?

932
00:52:45,135 --> 00:52:49,275
Yes. As presented, it's encapsulated in the new definition

933
00:52:49,295 --> 00:52:52,755
for manufactured dwelling park, which has any place

934
00:52:52,755 --> 00:52:54,675
where four or more manufactured dwellings,

935
00:52:55,105 --> 00:52:57,115
prefabricated dwellings are,

936
00:52:57,115 --> 00:53:00,555
recreational vehicles are located within 500 feet

937
00:53:00,555 --> 00:53:02,355
of one another on a lot, et cetera.

938
00:53:03,095 --> 00:53:05,155
So that was intended to capture those changes

939
00:53:05,335 --> 00:53:07,755
for prefabricated in RVs.

940
00:53:08,355 --> 00:53:12,435
I would note that the term manufactured housing development

941
00:53:12,495 --> 00:53:17,355
and manufactured home park are used in various ordinances.

942
00:53:17,455 --> 00:53:21,755
So for consistency, if the commission saw fit, we could

943
00:53:22,715 --> 00:53:25,525
recommend or should you recommend a modification

944
00:53:25,525 --> 00:53:26,805
of the manufactured park

945
00:53:27,305 --> 00:53:30,925
or manufactured dwelling park to recognize

946
00:53:30,955 --> 00:53:33,085
that manufactured home parks

947
00:53:33,085 --> 00:53:35,605
and manufactured housing development are

948
00:53:35,685 --> 00:53:36,805
synonyms for that term.

949
00:53:37,345 --> 00:53:39,925
And we could modify the definition so it's all inclusive.

950
00:53:40,175 --> 00:53:42,365
Great, Brandon, that makes an awful lot of sense to me

951
00:53:42,365 --> 00:53:45,165
because the different terms do occur at different places

952
00:53:46,145 --> 00:53:48,725
and it's not clear if they're harmonious or not.

953
00:53:49,105 --> 00:53:51,325
So if we could have a definition that equates them,

954
00:53:51,325 --> 00:53:53,965
that would be awesome because the manufactured housing

955
00:53:53,965 --> 00:53:57,965
development phrase also occurs in the table of allowed uses

956
00:53:59,785 --> 00:54:02,725
and in the section on applicability and in the findings

957
00:54:02,725 --> 00:54:03,925
and conclusions documents.

958
00:54:03,925 --> 00:54:05,365
So it is important to harmonize those.

959
00:54:08,905 --> 00:54:10,885
And the second thing

960
00:54:10,885 --> 00:54:12,885
that I have on this particular ordinance,

961
00:54:12,885 --> 00:54:16,685
and it's all I have deals with the phased compliance

962
00:54:17,765 --> 00:54:21,085
considerations that the consultant talked about upfront.

963
00:54:22,345 --> 00:54:26,645
And here I'm talking about page 32 of the draft ordinance.

964
00:54:26,675 --> 00:54:29,805
It's on total page 54 of our packet

965
00:54:32,105 --> 00:54:35,045
in, in the, it it's under the subheading G

966
00:54:35,045 --> 00:54:36,165
of non-conformance.

967
00:54:38,665 --> 00:54:40,765
And the phase compliance considerations we,

968
00:54:40,905 --> 00:54:44,805
we previously discussed is the consultant noted the use

969
00:54:44,805 --> 00:54:46,085
of a different criterion

970
00:54:46,865 --> 00:54:51,325
to inform conditional use permit review of an application

971
00:54:52,225 --> 00:54:54,965
to accomplish phase compliance in a

972
00:54:54,965 --> 00:54:56,165
manufactured dwelling park.

973
00:54:56,785 --> 00:54:58,125
And that that criterion

974
00:54:58,285 --> 00:55:00,325
that we talked about was financial hardship

975
00:55:00,825 --> 00:55:01,925
or financial burden.

976
00:55:03,945 --> 00:55:07,645
And that concept no longer occurs in this draft.

977
00:55:08,445 --> 00:55:11,205
Rather we have a new term of art

978
00:55:12,025 --> 00:55:13,805
that's introduced tonight,

979
00:55:13,965 --> 00:55:17,405
proportionate proportionate impact, which is defined

980
00:55:17,405 --> 00:55:18,485
on total page 70.

981
00:55:19,425 --> 00:55:22,605
And because it's newly introduced tonight, I hope that

982
00:55:23,705 --> 00:55:27,685
the consultant could please explain how the,

983
00:55:28,065 --> 00:55:31,085
you envision the proportionate impact concept would function

984
00:55:31,865 --> 00:55:34,805
in a conditional use permit review

985
00:55:35,625 --> 00:55:37,485
of a phase compliance application.

986
00:55:42,435 --> 00:55:44,405
Sure, I'll, I'll jump in.

987
00:55:44,905 --> 00:55:48,165
You know, the intent there was that some of the things that

988
00:55:49,225 --> 00:55:52,285
in terms a lot of conditional uses would are typically

989
00:55:54,075 --> 00:55:56,645
rely on the proof of financial burden.

990
00:55:57,505 --> 00:55:59,965
Now in some of these cases it may not be

991
00:55:59,995 --> 00:56:01,245
just financial burden.

992
00:56:01,865 --> 00:56:05,445
So the thought was that we could use a more

993
00:56:06,035 --> 00:56:10,845
overarching term that would allow for an argument to be made

994
00:56:10,845 --> 00:56:13,765
that there was a different burden that that might be just

995
00:56:13,785 --> 00:56:17,245
as, as as much of a hardship as financial.

996
00:56:18,025 --> 00:56:20,565
So, and it's more, I guess, a balanced approach.

997
00:56:20,625 --> 00:56:24,245
You know, it is kind of, and it's a way to objectively

998
00:56:24,995 --> 00:56:29,125
look at, at, at what that action or that phase would be.

999
00:56:29,665 --> 00:56:33,645
So I think the, the idea was literally to, to allow

1000
00:56:33,645 --> 00:56:34,725
for more flexibility

1001
00:56:34,745 --> 00:56:37,085
and the ability to, to make an argument for a hardship

1002
00:56:37,085 --> 00:56:38,605
beyond just fin finances.

1003
00:56:39,505 --> 00:56:41,445
So I hope that helps a little bit.

1004
00:56:42,945 --> 00:56:45,445
If, if, if, if you need more, I could probably come up

1005
00:56:45,445 --> 00:56:46,485
with something, but it,

1006
00:56:47,505 --> 00:56:49,605
is there any other clarification in your question

1007
00:56:49,605 --> 00:56:52,165
that might help me answer your question?

1008
00:56:53,025 --> 00:56:57,205
Yes. Or does that help you at all with, with that without,

1009
00:56:57,525 --> 00:56:59,885
I think it then intent was more flexibility for,

1010
00:57:00,265 --> 00:57:01,525
for arguing hardship.

1011
00:57:01,875 --> 00:57:06,485
Okay, fair enough. Thank you. And I appreciate that. Yeah.

1012
00:57:06,865 --> 00:57:09,965
Our prior discussion about demonstrable fire,

1013
00:57:09,965 --> 00:57:14,525
financial hardship criterion, the question

1014
00:57:14,525 --> 00:57:17,125
that I had in my mind was how would that be applied

1015
00:57:17,795 --> 00:57:20,645
from case to case and how do we make that objective?

1016
00:57:21,545 --> 00:57:25,405
And it seems to me like the proportionate impact concept

1017
00:57:26,435 --> 00:57:29,485
kind of takes a step toward objectivity, which is yeah,

1018
00:57:29,795 --> 00:57:31,045
what we're hoping for here.

1019
00:57:32,505 --> 00:57:35,125
But again, I'm, I'm wondering, you know, if,

1020
00:57:35,505 --> 00:57:37,485
if anybody has an idea of how

1021
00:57:37,485 --> 00:57:39,765
that might actually be applied in a CEP review,

1022
00:57:40,225 --> 00:57:43,925
If I can give a hypothetical example based on a comment

1023
00:57:43,925 --> 00:57:45,605
that we received from one of the park owners,

1024
00:57:46,305 --> 00:57:47,485
if they had a unit

1025
00:57:47,485 --> 00:57:51,205
that was located within required setbacks per the code

1026
00:57:51,545 --> 00:57:52,685
and it needed to be removed

1027
00:57:52,685 --> 00:57:55,845
and replaced in the same location, would

1028
00:57:55,965 --> 00:57:57,685
that trigger a conditional use permit?

1029
00:57:58,185 --> 00:58:00,965
I'd start by saying I think that the two trailer park

1030
00:58:00,985 --> 00:58:03,525
or manufactured home parks within Ashland

1031
00:58:03,525 --> 00:58:07,005
that we're discussing because the standards proposed are

1032
00:58:07,205 --> 00:58:09,045
becoming less restrictive,

1033
00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:11,365
that scenario would not likely come to pass.

1034
00:58:11,985 --> 00:58:13,245
But in the hypothetical,

1035
00:58:13,705 --> 00:58:15,605
if somebody was looking at locating,

1036
00:58:16,255 --> 00:58:18,045
relocating a manufactured home

1037
00:58:18,045 --> 00:58:20,365
that was removed in the same location

1038
00:58:21,225 --> 00:58:25,205
and it violated setback requirements perhaps too close to

1039
00:58:26,105 --> 00:58:28,165
the property line of an adjoining neighbor,

1040
00:58:28,605 --> 00:58:32,965
I think the proportional impact is not just tried to cost

1041
00:58:32,965 --> 00:58:36,725
because clearly there would not be a cost burden in terms

1042
00:58:36,725 --> 00:58:39,845
of relocating it forward to avoid the setback,

1043
00:58:39,905 --> 00:58:42,085
but there may be a continuity issue

1044
00:58:42,085 --> 00:58:44,925
to have all the units in the, the same setback.

1045
00:58:45,465 --> 00:58:49,045
And so I think an applicant for that could demonstrate that

1046
00:58:49,215 --> 00:58:52,205
where the effect, not necessarily the cost

1047
00:58:52,705 --> 00:58:55,605
or mitigation of an action is directly scaled

1048
00:58:55,605 --> 00:58:57,525
to its cause ensuring fairness.

1049
00:58:57,985 --> 00:58:59,885
And in that sense, a conditional use permit

1050
00:59:00,415 --> 00:59:05,245
could be approved by noting that that it is appropriate

1051
00:59:05,245 --> 00:59:07,005
to locate, locate it within the setback area,

1052
00:59:07,925 --> 00:59:11,325
provided it to not compromise fire safety

1053
00:59:12,085 --> 00:59:13,165
building code requirements.

1054
00:59:14,625 --> 00:59:16,645
And it's avoids expanding

1055
00:59:16,645 --> 00:59:19,445
or intensifying the nonconforming aspect, meaning

1056
00:59:19,445 --> 00:59:20,925
that it wouldn't move even closer

1057
00:59:21,145 --> 00:59:24,285
to the property line than the pre-existing unit was.

1058
00:59:24,745 --> 00:59:27,805
So that would be a way, should a conditional use permit be

1059
00:59:27,805 --> 00:59:32,045
triggered on a small scale that that would be evaluated.

1060
00:59:32,525 --> 00:59:35,045
I think where we're envisioning this section isn't

1061
00:59:35,045 --> 00:59:38,085
for those individual units, it's more on the lines of

1062
00:59:38,745 --> 00:59:43,085
if an applicant wanted to put in a new egress

1063
00:59:43,305 --> 00:59:47,485
and exit onto a street for wing spread for instance,

1064
00:59:48,275 --> 00:59:49,845
they would not then be required

1065
00:59:49,905 --> 00:59:52,525
to improve all the internal street system

1066
00:59:52,835 --> 00:59:55,205
because they are improving public safety

1067
00:59:55,985 --> 00:59:58,325
and it's proportional to the work that they're doing.

1068
00:59:59,025 --> 01:00:02,565
So that's where the conditional use permit would allow for

1069
01:00:02,565 --> 01:00:05,525
that as opposed to requiring strict compliance

1070
01:00:06,155 --> 01:00:07,525
with the full standard of the code.

1071
01:00:07,705 --> 01:00:09,725
And that goes to the intent

1072
01:00:09,725 --> 01:00:12,565
that I think we established in the study session last time,

1073
01:00:12,665 --> 01:00:15,445
to provide owners greater flexibility

1074
01:00:15,465 --> 01:00:17,485
to accomplish efficient redevelopment.

1075
01:00:19,425 --> 01:00:22,325
So as we discussed this a little bit further, I'm,

1076
01:00:22,345 --> 01:00:25,005
I'm starting to, to smell what this is and

1077
01:00:25,065 --> 01:00:26,725
and I appreciate your explaining it.

1078
01:00:28,345 --> 01:00:30,045
You got something else? I'm good. Oh, okay.

1079
01:00:31,815 --> 01:00:36,525
Would this, would what an owner a a park owner

1080
01:00:38,395 --> 01:00:40,205
need to open their books to the city,

1081
01:00:40,275 --> 01:00:42,645
like would've been necessary using a financial

1082
01:00:42,885 --> 01:00:44,045
hardship standard

1083
01:00:44,855 --> 01:00:46,725
Under the financial hardship standard?

1084
01:00:46,945 --> 01:00:49,925
Yes. They'd have to demonstrate a financial hardship,

1085
01:00:50,525 --> 01:00:53,805
I think in this because it has a, a key word

1086
01:00:54,065 --> 01:00:57,485
or within the definition of proportionate impact,

1087
01:00:57,955 --> 01:01:00,525
they could utilize cost as a justification

1088
01:01:01,185 --> 01:01:03,045
for a proportionate impact claim,

1089
01:01:03,845 --> 01:01:05,485
but they could also use the effect

1090
01:01:05,505 --> 01:01:08,445
or mitigation of an action as alternatives.

1091
01:01:08,465 --> 01:01:12,005
So it's not, and it's, or so it's one of those

1092
01:01:14,745 --> 01:01:15,725
That's all. Okay.

1093
01:01:16,355 --> 01:01:17,965
Just one quick follow up. Thank you.

1094
01:01:18,585 --> 01:01:21,125
So I think this access to conditional use permits

1095
01:01:21,125 --> 01:01:24,405
and this pathway to compliance for park owners

1096
01:01:25,145 --> 01:01:26,245
to improve infrastructure

1097
01:01:26,665 --> 01:01:27,965
and to make changes is one

1098
01:01:27,965 --> 01:01:30,285
of the strongest aspects of this proposal.

1099
01:01:31,845 --> 01:01:33,725
I think you raised a very good point about

1100
01:01:33,915 --> 01:01:35,325
what are the qualifications

1101
01:01:35,825 --> 01:01:37,765
for those conditional use permits

1102
01:01:38,725 --> 01:01:40,245
having served on the subcommittee,

1103
01:01:40,765 --> 01:01:44,805
I read the wing spread owner's letter carefully

1104
01:01:45,145 --> 01:01:50,005
and they did cite a scenario which may

1105
01:01:50,005 --> 01:01:54,205
apply and, and in their words that they,

1106
01:01:54,205 --> 01:01:55,365
they made the economic claim

1107
01:01:55,365 --> 01:01:58,205
that the park cannot afford an estimated $2 million

1108
01:01:58,265 --> 01:02:00,245
to replace 60-year-old water and sewer systems.

1109
01:02:00,425 --> 01:02:03,925
And that this zone removes the alternative

1110
01:02:03,925 --> 01:02:06,365
of quote salvaging the land for other development.

1111
01:02:07,705 --> 01:02:10,845
So hypothetically, I'm assuming they could come forward

1112
01:02:10,915 --> 01:02:13,165
with some economic or financial justification

1113
01:02:13,185 --> 01:02:15,965
and say at this point we don't have the $2 million

1114
01:02:16,705 --> 01:02:18,605
for the water and sewer upgrades.

1115
01:02:19,725 --> 01:02:22,165
When you look at that across 116 spaces,

1116
01:02:22,355 --> 01:02:25,885
it's roughly $17,000 per space over nearly

1117
01:02:25,895 --> 01:02:27,205
50 years of ownership.

1118
01:02:27,445 --> 01:02:30,205
A sinking fund reserve of just $8

1119
01:02:30,705 --> 01:02:32,885
and 50 cents per space per month

1120
01:02:33,355 --> 01:02:36,245
with balances earning the actual 50 year average risk free

1121
01:02:36,245 --> 01:02:39,485
rate of about 4.2% on a three month UST bill

1122
01:02:40,645 --> 01:02:43,165
compounded over these 600 months would have fully

1123
01:02:43,305 --> 01:02:44,565
funded that replacement.

1124
01:02:45,065 --> 01:02:49,005
So you could argue that this is well

1125
01:02:49,775 --> 01:02:51,925
under 2% of a typical space rent,

1126
01:02:51,985 --> 01:02:54,045
had reserves been invested at the 50 year average.

1127
01:02:54,305 --> 01:02:58,245
And actually, if you look even further, this number falls

1128
01:02:58,535 --> 01:03:00,885
below $5 per space per month.

1129
01:03:01,465 --> 01:03:03,645
So this is not a problem with the ordinance,

1130
01:03:04,035 --> 01:03:06,565
this is a problem, this is a management

1131
01:03:08,205 --> 01:03:10,965
unfunded capital, capital obligation.

1132
01:03:12,785 --> 01:03:15,445
It is reality for the park owner,

1133
01:03:15,625 --> 01:03:17,845
but it is reality that could have been avoided.

1134
01:03:22,575 --> 01:03:24,925
Thank you. That's good, Susan.

1135
01:03:27,025 --> 01:03:29,605
So the term proportionate impact, does it have

1136
01:03:31,745 --> 01:03:35,165
and does it have a,

1137
01:03:35,585 --> 01:03:37,325
an existing legal meaning

1138
01:03:37,545 --> 01:03:42,325
or is it a descriptive term that has been used here

1139
01:03:42,905 --> 01:03:45,165
for the intents that have been described?

1140
01:03:45,165 --> 01:03:49,085
It sounds like the latter, but just wanted to confirm that

1141
01:03:49,865 --> 01:03:52,645
and then kind of a small thing.

1142
01:03:52,745 --> 01:03:57,285
But on page 51, I believe that there's,

1143
01:03:58,595 --> 01:04:01,325
it's kind of garbled a little bit.

1144
01:04:01,505 --> 01:04:05,485
The I belongs under one

1145
01:04:06,025 --> 01:04:09,125
and two would start halfway through that sentence, I think,

1146
01:04:09,925 --> 01:04:12,605
I think the two belongs after the word public.

1147
01:04:12,995 --> 01:04:16,085
Yeah, before the word Yeah. Conditional uses.

1148
01:04:16,395 --> 01:04:18,205
Yeah. The, I belongs under the H

1149
01:04:18,745 --> 01:04:20,085
Oh, we marked the same thing.

1150
01:04:23,595 --> 01:04:25,885
It's the editing editor in me.

1151
01:04:28,385 --> 01:04:31,525
So the answer to number one, my first question was

1152
01:04:32,075 --> 01:04:34,485
that it's a descriptive term employed here

1153
01:04:36,315 --> 01:04:38,925
That, that we define Yeah, it as a definition

1154
01:04:38,925 --> 01:04:40,045
and it actually is a,

1155
01:04:40,045 --> 01:04:42,205
it is technically a borrowed legal term.

1156
01:04:43,595 --> 01:04:47,045
Okay. And actually it also is used sometimes in, in, in,

1157
01:04:47,385 --> 01:04:50,165
in the courts for the protection of impacts

1158
01:04:50,385 --> 01:04:53,285
for things like penalties that fit the crime, for example.

1159
01:04:53,465 --> 01:04:55,405
So it's, it's not something new,

1160
01:04:56,065 --> 01:04:58,365
but it's something that we felt we could utilize here

1161
01:04:58,745 --> 01:05:01,965
to broaden the, again, the, the ability to make an argument

1162
01:05:02,265 --> 01:05:05,925
to, for that impact to be proportional to,

1163
01:05:07,225 --> 01:05:08,805
to the, basically it's,

1164
01:05:08,805 --> 01:05:11,525
it's mitigation measures which match the severity

1165
01:05:11,585 --> 01:05:13,725
of the project's impact, impact.

1166
01:05:13,725 --> 01:05:17,405
It's the whole idea behind it. So it is, it is a wonky term.

1167
01:05:17,565 --> 01:05:20,685
I get it. It was kind of new to us when we researched it,

1168
01:05:20,905 --> 01:05:23,885
but we thought it really kind of fit the bill here for,

1169
01:05:24,105 --> 01:05:28,645
you know, for, for allowing for, you know, that phased

1170
01:05:30,075 --> 01:05:32,805
ability to bring the, the, the entire park into,

1171
01:05:35,885 --> 01:05:38,805
you know, basically to, to, to allow that phase approach.

1172
01:05:39,335 --> 01:05:41,685
Right. I mean, because, you know,

1173
01:05:41,685 --> 01:05:43,885
certainly financial concerns are important,

1174
01:05:43,885 --> 01:05:46,405
but they aren't the only thing when we're talking about,

1175
01:05:46,985 --> 01:05:48,765
you know, built communities. So

1176
01:05:49,065 --> 01:05:50,065
Ex Exactly.

1177
01:05:50,505 --> 01:05:55,365
Thanks. Anybody help?

1178
01:05:55,545 --> 01:05:59,925
Any other concerns with ordinance proposed ordinance 32 96?

1179
01:06:01,265 --> 01:06:02,365
If not, we can move on

1180
01:06:02,365 --> 01:06:07,125
to 39 97. Do you have anything?

1181
01:06:07,355 --> 01:06:09,445
Yeah, just real, real quick.

1182
01:06:09,545 --> 01:06:12,285
On 32 97, this is the one that

1183
01:06:14,905 --> 01:06:18,805
has a map attached and it is this the,

1184
01:06:19,385 --> 01:06:21,765
the zoning change or the comp plan change?

1185
01:06:21,765 --> 01:06:22,885
This is the zoning change.

1186
01:06:23,035 --> 01:06:24,405
Okay. This is the zoning change.

1187
01:06:24,465 --> 01:06:27,685
So I noticed that the attached map that's on total page 74

1188
01:06:28,865 --> 01:06:30,245
has upper pines

1189
01:06:30,305 --> 01:06:33,405
and the Allen property is designated MHP within the city

1190
01:06:33,405 --> 01:06:36,805
limits, but not Siski village, which I thought was curious.

1191
01:06:37,185 --> 01:06:38,365
I'm wondering if that was on purpose

1192
01:06:38,595 --> 01:06:39,965
Because it's not in the city.

1193
01:06:42,135 --> 01:06:43,845
Siski village, It's outside.

1194
01:06:46,345 --> 01:06:48,565
It is not in the city limits. It's in near

1195
01:06:48,675 --> 01:06:49,965
road battery, not in the city.

1196
01:06:50,115 --> 01:06:51,845
Okay, thank you. Thank you.

1197
01:06:51,905 --> 01:06:54,125
So Upper Pines and Allen property, are those supposed

1198
01:06:54,125 --> 01:06:55,725
to be designated as MHP here?

1199
01:06:56,985 --> 01:07:00,285
So they are presently presented on the zoning map

1200
01:07:00,905 --> 01:07:03,765
and we were recommending a staff that

1201
01:07:04,385 --> 01:07:08,645
the planning commission could amend ordinance 3, 2, 9, 7

1202
01:07:08,825 --> 01:07:11,365
to remove upper pines from the map

1203
01:07:11,745 --> 01:07:15,285
and remove 2 78 Iowa Street from the map.

1204
01:07:16,945 --> 01:07:21,885
And also in terms of the comprehensive plan map, 3, 2, 9, 8,

1205
01:07:21,885 --> 01:07:25,325
ordinance 3, 2, 9, 8 correspondingly remove those

1206
01:07:25,335 --> 01:07:26,925
properties from that map.

1207
01:07:29,035 --> 01:07:32,765
Therefore, we would be adopting an, adopting the new zone

1208
01:07:32,865 --> 01:07:37,125
for only two of the parks wing spread and Toman Creek.

1209
01:07:38,305 --> 01:07:40,485
And then the comprehensive plan map would

1210
01:07:41,135 --> 01:07:44,485
newly include when properties are annexed to include navu

1211
01:07:44,485 --> 01:07:47,365
and SICU when they're annexed from the urban growth

1212
01:07:47,645 --> 01:07:49,125
boundary into the city limits.

1213
01:07:49,665 --> 01:07:51,525
And again, it was a prior recommendation

1214
01:07:51,525 --> 01:07:53,765
of the planning commission not to include

1215
01:07:54,675 --> 01:07:57,445
Jackson Wellsprings on that map for

1216
01:07:57,985 --> 01:07:58,985
At all.

1217
01:07:58,985 --> 01:08:00,405
Yeah, makes sense.

1218
01:08:00,635 --> 01:08:03,365
Yeah, it does. And it answers a similar question

1219
01:08:03,365 --> 01:08:04,765
that I had about the next ordinance,

1220
01:08:04,785 --> 01:08:05,845
so I'll just hold off on that.

1221
01:08:06,115 --> 01:08:09,125
Okay. You wanna move to the fourth ordinance? Okay.

1222
01:08:10,185 --> 01:08:12,005
The, this one is the section

1223
01:08:13,355 --> 01:08:15,725
chapter 10.116.

1224
01:08:15,915 --> 01:08:19,085
Yeah. And this in my mind is the biggie

1225
01:08:20,235 --> 01:08:21,645
that we have before us tonight.

1226
01:08:23,345 --> 01:08:26,925
And we have this brand new correspondence from the assistant

1227
01:08:26,925 --> 01:08:30,685
city attorney, which talks about a section

1228
01:08:30,825 --> 01:08:32,565
of Oregon revised statutes

1229
01:08:32,565 --> 01:08:35,125
that I had noticed too when I was researching it

1230
01:08:37,445 --> 01:08:39,765
OS chapter 90, section six 60,

1231
01:08:41,925 --> 01:08:44,885
limiting local government from enforcing regulations

1232
01:08:47,835 --> 01:08:50,325
affecting manufactured dwelling part closures

1233
01:08:51,585 --> 01:08:52,765
or partial closures.

1234
01:08:54,005 --> 01:08:58,565
I I think that this potentially impacts the pieces here

1235
01:08:59,465 --> 01:09:03,565
on relocation assistance and relocation planning.

1236
01:09:06,065 --> 01:09:09,125
And I, I also agree that some additional clarification

1237
01:09:09,125 --> 01:09:11,845
of the implementation details on those elements probably

1238
01:09:11,845 --> 01:09:13,325
needs to be, you know,

1239
01:09:14,215 --> 01:09:15,805
needs some refinement probably

1240
01:09:16,065 --> 01:09:17,125
if we were to proceed with them.

1241
01:09:17,225 --> 01:09:19,325
But I, I don't think that this section

1242
01:09:19,425 --> 01:09:21,365
of the revised statute, six 60

1243
01:09:22,665 --> 01:09:24,725
limits local government authority on issues

1244
01:09:24,725 --> 01:09:27,685
that are not specifically triggered by a park closure.

1245
01:09:29,865 --> 01:09:33,205
And Portland and Eugene both have manufactured HO housing

1246
01:09:33,215 --> 01:09:35,605
ordinances that increase tenant rights above

1247
01:09:35,605 --> 01:09:37,045
what is provided in state law.

1248
01:09:38,595 --> 01:09:41,405
Therefore, I believe that we can proceed with the pieces

1249
01:09:42,195 --> 01:09:44,085
here dealing with notice of sale

1250
01:09:44,665 --> 01:09:49,205
and opportunity to purchase, possibly

1251
01:09:49,205 --> 01:09:52,205
with the caveat about the, the notice period,

1252
01:09:52,695 --> 01:09:55,565
which seems like the, the legal basis for that is

1253
01:09:58,315 --> 01:10:00,285
unknown at this point,

1254
01:10:00,545 --> 01:10:02,605
but if we don't do these pieces on tenant rights,

1255
01:10:02,635 --> 01:10:06,805
then only the MHP zone would provide any sort

1256
01:10:06,865 --> 01:10:10,005
of additional protection to that critical source

1257
01:10:10,025 --> 01:10:11,045
of affordable housing.

1258
01:10:11,105 --> 01:10:13,125
And I don't think the zone itself is enough.

1259
01:10:13,625 --> 01:10:15,805
The tenant piece is critical.

1260
01:10:16,425 --> 01:10:19,085
So I, I definitely think we should proceed with the notice

1261
01:10:19,105 --> 01:10:20,245
of sale and tenant rights

1262
01:10:20,345 --> 01:10:22,365
and the opportunity to purchase elements.

1263
01:10:24,865 --> 01:10:27,565
And I, I have thoughts about each of those,

1264
01:10:27,745 --> 01:10:29,285
but I, I don't wanna hog the mic.

1265
01:10:31,715 --> 01:10:33,085
Anybody else have any questions?

1266
01:10:36,195 --> 01:10:37,645
Okay, go for it. Hog the mic.

1267
01:10:39,185 --> 01:10:43,725
Go for it. I'd, yeah, I'd like to hear, yeah, right,

1268
01:10:44,705 --> 01:10:45,705
You're on A roll.

1269
01:10:45,755 --> 01:10:47,805
Okay, so the, on the notice of sale

1270
01:10:47,825 --> 01:10:52,525
and tenant rights piece, I'm looking

1271
01:10:52,945 --> 01:10:56,405
in particular at subsection C,

1272
01:10:57,375 --> 01:11:01,845
which is on page three of the draft ordinance 3, 3 0 6,

1273
01:11:02,675 --> 01:11:03,765
it's total page 80

1274
01:11:08,065 --> 01:11:13,005
And subsection C, which begins if a purchase

1275
01:11:13,085 --> 01:11:15,445
and sale agreement is executed prior to delivering.

1276
01:11:17,035 --> 01:11:20,085
Okay. I would feel better about this provision

1277
01:11:21,385 --> 01:11:23,445
if we replace the word executed

1278
01:11:24,835 --> 01:11:29,685
with the word tendered in order to accomplish three things.

1279
01:11:29,785 --> 01:11:33,325
The first would be to distinguish a pending sale contract

1280
01:11:33,955 --> 01:11:36,245
from a ratified or enforceable contract.

1281
01:11:37,665 --> 01:11:39,765
The second thing it would do is to ensure

1282
01:11:39,835 --> 01:11:42,125
that no sale contract is valid

1283
01:11:42,635 --> 01:11:46,165
without meeting the notice requirements of subsection A.

1284
01:11:48,745 --> 01:11:51,925
And third, it would avoid an inadvertent creation

1285
01:11:52,385 --> 01:11:54,805
of an exception to the notice requirement.

1286
01:11:56,015 --> 01:12:00,845
Right. If, if we use the word executed there, it, it implies

1287
01:12:00,845 --> 01:12:02,005
that a contract exists

1288
01:12:03,505 --> 01:12:06,005
and, you know, I I think it's better

1289
01:12:06,005 --> 01:12:08,205
to use the word tendered, which suggests that it's,

1290
01:12:08,205 --> 01:12:09,605
it's it's perspective

1291
01:12:13,465 --> 01:12:15,005
and subject to the notice requirement.

1292
01:12:16,195 --> 01:12:20,145
Okay. Anything else?

1293
01:12:20,975 --> 01:12:24,385
Last thing on the, on, on the same page under the heading,

1294
01:12:24,385 --> 01:12:25,505
opportunity to purchase

1295
01:12:29,685 --> 01:12:32,665
in subsection A, the first clause

1296
01:12:34,575 --> 01:12:36,785
following receipt of a notice of sale,

1297
01:12:38,695 --> 01:12:43,405
that's a condition precedent receipt

1298
01:12:43,405 --> 01:12:45,365
of a notice, which I don't think is necessary here.

1299
01:12:46,085 --> 01:12:47,805
Rather, I think our intent is

1300
01:12:47,805 --> 01:12:50,685
that any tenant organization would enjoy the rights

1301
01:12:50,715 --> 01:12:55,045
articulated in this policy regardless of when it's organized

1302
01:12:56,345 --> 01:12:58,765
or whether before or after a notice of sale

1303
01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:01,885
and striking the condition precedent from

1304
01:13:01,885 --> 01:13:03,005
subsection A would get there.

1305
01:13:04,065 --> 01:13:05,245
So you're broadening it?

1306
01:13:05,995 --> 01:13:07,125
Yeah. Yeah.

1307
01:13:07,285 --> 01:13:10,645
I, I want subsection A to empower any tenant organization

1308
01:13:12,025 --> 01:13:15,405
to approach the owner of a manufactured home park

1309
01:13:15,955 --> 01:13:17,085
with a purchase offer

1310
01:13:17,225 --> 01:13:20,205
to create a residentially owned park at any time.

1311
01:13:22,245 --> 01:13:25,125
I would hesitate to limit residence organizing

1312
01:13:25,245 --> 01:13:27,765
and purchasing a park where they lived

1313
01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:30,125
to any particular circumstance,

1314
01:13:31,105 --> 01:13:33,805
as would be the case if this condition precedent stays in

1315
01:13:33,805 --> 01:13:34,925
place in subsection A.

1316
01:13:38,185 --> 01:13:40,005
The only place where a condition event

1317
01:13:40,645 --> 01:13:43,445
I think is appropriate is in subsection B below,

1318
01:13:46,225 --> 01:13:47,765
you know, having to do with receipt

1319
01:13:47,765 --> 01:13:49,125
or delivery of a notice of sale.

1320
01:13:49,965 --> 01:13:52,325
I, I think subsection B is proposed is fine.

1321
01:13:54,785 --> 01:13:56,965
And so,

1322
01:13:57,865 --> 01:13:59,365
and that's the one, that's the part

1323
01:13:59,365 --> 01:14:02,365
that has the 180 day notice that's causing some heartburn.

1324
01:14:02,655 --> 01:14:06,845
Right. So I would like for an ability

1325
01:14:07,265 --> 01:14:10,085
to cleanly distinguish A

1326
01:14:10,085 --> 01:14:13,165
and B based on the absence

1327
01:14:13,185 --> 01:14:16,245
or existence of a condition precedent having to do

1328
01:14:16,245 --> 01:14:18,165
with the existence of a notice of sale.

1329
01:14:19,465 --> 01:14:21,125
It would exist in B but not in a,

1330
01:14:22,235 --> 01:14:23,205
Okay. That makes sense.

1331
01:14:23,505 --> 01:14:25,965
That's all Makes sense

1332
01:14:26,025 --> 01:14:26,325
to you

1333
01:14:28,595 --> 01:14:32,045
Russell. Oh, Eric, sorry.

1334
01:14:32,235 --> 01:14:36,125
Yeah, I'll stick with

1335
01:14:37,885 --> 01:14:39,525
op opportunity to purchase.

1336
01:14:41,825 --> 01:14:43,525
If a landlord wants to sell this property

1337
01:14:45,465 --> 01:14:47,405
and he gives notice to the tenants,

1338
01:14:48,155 --> 01:14:49,965
that should be sufficient.

1339
01:14:50,585 --> 01:14:55,045
It, it should not be predicated toward,

1340
01:14:55,145 --> 01:14:58,125
or I, I believe what you said is,

1341
01:14:58,225 --> 01:15:00,045
if at any time the tenants wanna come forward

1342
01:15:00,105 --> 01:15:03,565
and provide a sale agreement to a landlord, they have

1343
01:15:03,565 --> 01:15:05,005
to review it under good faith.

1344
01:15:06,625 --> 01:15:07,715
What if they don't wanna sell?

1345
01:15:08,465 --> 01:15:12,275
Yeah. I mean this is all like following subsection A under

1346
01:15:12,275 --> 01:15:15,515
the notice and sale and tenant rights, which is that, but,

1347
01:15:15,735 --> 01:15:19,115
but the owner, the owner cannot make a final unconditional

1348
01:15:19,115 --> 01:15:21,955
acceptance of any offer without first providing

1349
01:15:21,955 --> 01:15:23,675
notice. Right. That's

1350
01:15:23,855 --> 01:15:25,275
So, so they just need to give notice

1351
01:15:25,275 --> 01:15:27,355
that they have an offer, they need to give notice

1352
01:15:27,355 --> 01:15:30,115
that they intend to sell the property, put it on the market.

1353
01:15:30,675 --> 01:15:31,435
I think it's, I think it's

1354
01:15:31,435 --> 01:15:32,595
addressing two different things. Correct.

1355
01:15:33,375 --> 01:15:34,995
And I think however you wanna phrase it,

1356
01:15:36,095 --> 01:15:37,755
But I think it phrases both ways, right.

1357
01:15:37,845 --> 01:15:39,195
Would be the same. Right.

1358
01:15:39,195 --> 01:15:43,035
Whether they have a a, a tendered offer in front of them

1359
01:15:43,215 --> 01:15:45,475
or whether they just intend to market it.

1360
01:15:45,595 --> 01:15:47,995
I think the, the intent to market is part of state law.

1361
01:15:47,995 --> 01:15:50,035
That's, that occurs in ORs chapter 90.

1362
01:15:52,175 --> 01:15:55,265
Correct. So, but you said strike A out.

1363
01:15:55,405 --> 01:15:57,865
So did, did you not say that we,

1364
01:15:57,925 --> 01:15:59,185
we should just strike that whole section?

1365
01:15:59,605 --> 01:16:02,065
No. Okay. Just follow my misunderstanding. No,

1366
01:16:02,065 --> 01:16:03,625
That's my favorite part of it. Sub.

1367
01:16:04,535 --> 01:16:07,985
Okay. The, the, the, okay. The

1368
01:16:07,985 --> 01:16:09,065
Following receipt of a notice.

1369
01:16:09,485 --> 01:16:10,705
Of a notice of sale.

1370
01:16:10,725 --> 01:16:13,665
Of sale. Just take that out so that the tenants,

1371
01:16:13,765 --> 01:16:14,865
it starts with tenants.

1372
01:16:14,895 --> 01:16:15,985
Yeah. Starts with tenants

1373
01:16:16,285 --> 01:16:19,185
and they can, group of tenants can come forward at any time.

1374
01:16:19,975 --> 01:16:20,945
Well, what if, but what if

1375
01:16:20,945 --> 01:16:22,745
the landlord doesn't wanna sell?

1376
01:16:24,005 --> 01:16:26,145
He says no. And they, and

1377
01:16:26,145 --> 01:16:28,385
They, I don't, I I don't, I don't think so.

1378
01:16:28,505 --> 01:16:32,185
I mean, it b then qualifies the landlord

1379
01:16:32,325 --> 01:16:33,665
to review it in good faith.

1380
01:16:34,525 --> 01:16:38,425
The offer. I, why would we,

1381
01:16:39,245 --> 01:16:43,265
why would we force upon a landlord a condition

1382
01:16:43,265 --> 01:16:44,665
that they've not agreed to?

1383
01:16:45,185 --> 01:16:46,265
I don't think B says that.

1384
01:16:46,385 --> 01:16:50,625
I think B says that if the tenant organization comes forward

1385
01:16:51,755 --> 01:16:54,945
after receiving a notice of sale, and they would,

1386
01:16:54,945 --> 01:16:58,905
and the tenant folks wish to purchase the, the park,

1387
01:17:00,315 --> 01:17:01,935
But we've taken out the notice of sale.

1388
01:17:01,995 --> 01:17:04,335
Notice of sale at the beginning. Right. It'd have to come

1389
01:17:04,335 --> 01:17:05,335
Out of both places.

1390
01:17:06,355 --> 01:17:08,775
No, no, it doesn't. I don't think it does.

1391
01:17:09,785 --> 01:17:13,795
So I think, I think under B,

1392
01:17:15,295 --> 01:17:18,395
if the tenant comes forward, if the civil A, the

1393
01:17:19,515 --> 01:17:23,235
landlord gives the tenant the notice of sale, notice

1394
01:17:23,235 --> 01:17:24,275
that they wanna sell, and B,

1395
01:17:25,095 --> 01:17:26,355
and then the tenant comes forward

1396
01:17:26,535 --> 01:17:27,995
and says, yeah, we wanna organize

1397
01:17:28,015 --> 01:17:32,435
and we wanna purchase this, then they go into negotiations.

1398
01:17:33,785 --> 01:17:38,075
Whereas in a, I think there's, I think he's saying that the,

1399
01:17:39,855 --> 01:17:41,875
the wording is that you can, you

1400
01:17:41,875 --> 01:17:44,715
as a tenant organization can form, can, you can talk

1401
01:17:44,715 --> 01:17:46,075
to your neighbor, you can talk

1402
01:17:46,075 --> 01:17:47,355
to the rest of the people in the park.

1403
01:17:47,775 --> 01:17:50,595
You can say, we wanna, we wanna research the idea

1404
01:17:50,595 --> 01:17:52,915
of becoming a resident owned community.

1405
01:17:53,175 --> 01:17:56,075
And we can do that at any time.

1406
01:17:56,585 --> 01:17:58,355
Well, I agree with that. I mean, that, that's,

1407
01:17:58,495 --> 01:17:59,915
people could do that at any time.

1408
01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:03,995
But we're not, we're not changing the, the zoning,

1409
01:18:04,295 --> 01:18:07,755
or we're not changing the planning action to say that you,

1410
01:18:08,385 --> 01:18:12,275
that a a landlord then has to look at that

1411
01:18:12,495 --> 01:18:14,515
and offer if you come forward with one.

1412
01:18:16,335 --> 01:18:18,535
I mean, the, the purpose of, I thought the purpose

1413
01:18:18,555 --> 01:18:20,255
of this is if a landlord wants

1414
01:18:20,255 --> 01:18:23,855
to transact on their property, where there's, where,

1415
01:18:23,855 --> 01:18:28,615
where there's a, a manufactured home zone that,

1416
01:18:28,645 --> 01:18:32,255
that before, well he can, he

1417
01:18:32,255 --> 01:18:35,895
or she could accept a purchase agreement

1418
01:18:36,395 --> 01:18:40,855
and give the residents x amount of days notice.

1419
01:18:41,955 --> 01:18:45,535
Or the other path is in the opportunity to purchase section.

1420
01:18:45,775 --> 01:18:50,335
A landlord can give notice to all the residents that, Hey,

1421
01:18:50,395 --> 01:18:52,135
I'm thinking about selling or I'm selling.

1422
01:18:52,915 --> 01:18:55,095
You have your time to put together this organization.

1423
01:18:55,975 --> 01:18:58,475
But under a, there's no requirement for

1424
01:18:59,095 --> 01:19:00,315
the landlord to do anything.

1425
01:19:02,745 --> 01:19:05,405
The landlord has to give, landlord has to give

1426
01:19:06,005 --> 01:19:07,965
notice of sale.

1427
01:19:09,385 --> 01:19:13,395
Not under a, currently under a Yes.

1428
01:19:14,465 --> 01:19:17,475
With, with needs to purchase. We with the following.

1429
01:19:18,025 --> 01:19:21,995
Well, if you keep this phrase in Yeah.

1430
01:19:21,995 --> 01:19:23,955
Then, then the landlord is involved.

1431
01:19:24,015 --> 01:19:25,075
But if you take it out

1432
01:19:25,075 --> 01:19:26,075
and start with tenants,

1433
01:19:26,745 --> 01:19:28,795
it's just saying the tenants can organize themselves,

1434
01:19:30,775 --> 01:19:32,515
But the tenants can organize themselves anytime

1435
01:19:32,515 --> 01:19:33,555
they want. We don't need to

1436
01:19:34,215 --> 01:19:35,235
Say that in there. Yeah.

1437
01:19:35,355 --> 01:19:38,595
I believe the intention of saying, following receipt

1438
01:19:38,715 --> 01:19:42,635
of notice, it's kind of giving directions to the tenants.

1439
01:19:43,135 --> 01:19:45,155
You, if you've been given notice Yeah.

1440
01:19:45,155 --> 01:19:47,075
Then you, you are then you have this,

1441
01:19:47,175 --> 01:19:48,475
you have this Right. That

1442
01:19:48,475 --> 01:19:49,595
You could exercise and you got a

1443
01:19:49,595 --> 01:19:50,635
window that you have to work in.

1444
01:19:50,635 --> 01:19:54,115
Yeah. Whereas I think if, if you take out the, the

1445
01:19:54,905 --> 01:19:58,035
initial phrase, they don't have that window to work under.

1446
01:19:58,705 --> 01:20:01,155
They can, they can just, as you say, do

1447
01:20:01,715 --> 01:20:02,715
organize themselves anytime.

1448
01:20:03,025 --> 01:20:04,635
Well, they can. Yeah. I guess they

1449
01:20:04,635 --> 01:20:05,715
could do that anytime though.

1450
01:20:06,665 --> 01:20:08,405
Yeah. But aren't we gi,

1451
01:20:08,405 --> 01:20:10,605
aren't we giving the tenants the right to purchase

1452
01:20:10,705 --> 01:20:15,365
and we're giving, we're saying the landlord following has

1453
01:20:15,365 --> 01:20:18,005
to give receipt of sale and the tenants then may organize

1454
01:20:18,465 --> 01:20:21,285
or act through an eligible tenant organization cooperative

1455
01:20:21,585 --> 01:20:25,125
or entity permitted under Oregon law to express

1456
01:20:25,685 --> 01:20:28,325
interest in purchasing the manufacturing park

1457
01:20:28,465 --> 01:20:30,085
or manufactured dwelling park.

1458
01:20:34,395 --> 01:20:36,245
Yeah. I, I think we're, I think

1459
01:20:37,535 --> 01:20:38,645
we're saying two different things.

1460
01:20:38,785 --> 01:20:41,445
If we keep the phrase in, we're saying then

1461
01:20:41,835 --> 01:20:44,525
what the tenants do to organize happens

1462
01:20:45,745 --> 01:20:50,125
within a timeframe that is mandated by the rest of this

1463
01:20:50,835 --> 01:20:54,405
section and some other laws here.

1464
01:20:55,025 --> 01:20:58,485
So they've gotta, they've gotta get going and,

1465
01:20:58,665 --> 01:20:59,885
and get active.

1466
01:21:00,865 --> 01:21:04,325
But if we take out that phrase, then I think we're just,

1467
01:21:04,335 --> 01:21:05,725
we're just stating the obvious

1468
01:21:05,755 --> 01:21:08,165
that the tenants can organize anytime they want to.

1469
01:21:12,185 --> 01:21:14,085
It doesn't give them a start time that I don't believe.

1470
01:21:14,345 --> 01:21:18,365
No, it doesn't, it doesn't. Jeff. So just

1471
01:21:19,425 --> 01:21:21,605
If you want, if you want me to take a quick crack at this,

1472
01:21:21,805 --> 01:21:22,845
I, I understand the intent

1473
01:21:22,845 --> 01:21:24,285
and I agree with Commissioner Liner here.

1474
01:21:24,965 --> 01:21:26,965
I think I, what would concern me, and,

1475
01:21:26,985 --> 01:21:28,365
and thank you for the opportunity to speak,

1476
01:21:28,605 --> 01:21:30,325
'cause I won't get this opportunity when we get a crack

1477
01:21:30,325 --> 01:21:31,405
at it to talk to you all.

1478
01:21:33,025 --> 01:21:34,285
If there were some place

1479
01:21:35,475 --> 01:21:38,165
otherwise in the code that that added some sort

1480
01:21:38,165 --> 01:21:41,805
of prohibition, then I would understand wanting to remove

1481
01:21:41,805 --> 01:21:44,445
that language in order to make it as permissive as possible.

1482
01:21:45,425 --> 01:21:47,525
But barring there is no prohibition from

1483
01:21:47,525 --> 01:21:48,605
organizing at any time.

1484
01:21:49,385 --> 01:21:51,205
All of this is all of that, that,

1485
01:21:51,355 --> 01:21:53,445
that clause is just a clarification

1486
01:21:53,985 --> 01:21:56,005
for the words that follow and be.

1487
01:21:56,025 --> 01:21:57,165
So while I understand

1488
01:21:57,165 --> 01:21:59,205
and I completely see where you're trying to go,

1489
01:22:00,085 --> 01:22:02,885
I don't think that by removing it, you're adding any benefit

1490
01:22:03,795 --> 01:22:06,685
because there isn't any other place that says that it is

1491
01:22:06,685 --> 01:22:08,925
otherwise prohibited that they could organize any time.

1492
01:22:09,345 --> 01:22:12,045
So to Commissioner Heron's point, all that, all

1493
01:22:12,045 --> 01:22:15,165
that clause is doing, and a is clarifying exactly

1494
01:22:15,385 --> 01:22:18,685
how B works, but organize anytime you want.

1495
01:22:19,585 --> 01:22:21,365
And to, to Commissioner Herod's point,

1496
01:22:21,705 --> 01:22:22,925
you could absolutely organize,

1497
01:22:22,945 --> 01:22:24,845
you could absolutely say We'd like to purchase this.

1498
01:22:24,845 --> 01:22:25,845
And the landlord that's not

1499
01:22:26,005 --> 01:22:27,085
interesting in selling could say no.

1500
01:22:28,025 --> 01:22:32,935
But if, if there was a section that basically said,

1501
01:22:32,935 --> 01:22:34,135
you cannot do this

1502
01:22:34,995 --> 01:22:36,775
unless there was a notice of sale,

1503
01:22:37,365 --> 01:22:38,655
then I would be right there with you.

1504
01:22:38,945 --> 01:22:40,815
Those are just my thoughts. Thank you, chair. You're

1505
01:22:40,815 --> 01:22:44,175
Welcome Russell.

1506
01:22:46,595 --> 01:22:47,775
Thanks. Chair Vener

1507
01:22:47,795 --> 01:22:49,535
and Commissioner Lineer,

1508
01:22:49,815 --> 01:22:51,535
really appreciate your input tonight.

1509
01:22:51,695 --> 01:22:54,855
I think what you've added is

1510
01:22:56,315 --> 01:22:57,935
the direction that this needs to go.

1511
01:22:59,055 --> 01:23:01,015
I support the tenant protection intent,

1512
01:23:01,155 --> 01:23:03,975
but the city attorney's handout raises enough legal

1513
01:23:03,975 --> 01:23:05,805
uncertainty that I, I don't think we should

1514
01:23:06,325 --> 01:23:10,645
recommend immediate adoption of chapter 10.116 tonight.

1515
01:23:11,665 --> 01:23:14,725
My understanding is that Oregon law already regulates

1516
01:23:16,085 --> 01:23:19,205
manufactured dwelling park closures and partial closures.

1517
01:23:19,265 --> 01:23:23,565
And ORS 90.660 may limit local ordinances

1518
01:23:23,765 --> 01:23:26,045
that regulate that same subject area.

1519
01:23:26,825 --> 01:23:29,325
I'd rather recommend that the land use zoning package

1520
01:23:29,395 --> 01:23:32,085
tonight and ask the counsel

1521
01:23:32,305 --> 01:23:35,965
to give a chapter 10.116 additional legal reviews

1522
01:23:36,025 --> 01:23:39,205
so we don't accidentally create a preemption problem,

1523
01:23:39,605 --> 01:23:43,285
a property rights challenge or an unenforceable process.

1524
01:23:44,865 --> 01:23:46,645
So you're suggesting that we just don't,

1525
01:23:47,065 --> 01:23:48,925
we don't pass anything on this.

1526
01:23:49,225 --> 01:23:52,405
We don't adopt anything on this particular ordinance.

1527
01:23:52,965 --> 01:23:54,885
I think we should move it forward to counsel,

1528
01:23:55,065 --> 01:23:57,125
but with the suggestion

1529
01:23:57,125 --> 01:24:00,125
that it undergoes additional legal review.

1530
01:24:07,785 --> 01:24:09,005
Thanks, commissioner Russell.

1531
01:24:09,885 --> 01:24:14,005
I believe we had, did we have the organization in here?

1532
01:24:14,145 --> 01:24:16,965
The Casa Casa?

1533
01:24:17,305 --> 01:24:19,405
And we, we talked about this significantly,

1534
01:24:20,105 --> 01:24:24,765
and I believe they said, you know, there is a example

1535
01:24:24,825 --> 01:24:29,725
of 180 day requirement out there in Brookings

1536
01:24:29,725 --> 01:24:31,885
or somewhere, I can't remember where, Eugene, maybe,

1537
01:24:32,705 --> 01:24:33,965
but it has not been challenged

1538
01:24:34,665 --> 01:24:37,365
and it could come with significant legal challenges

1539
01:24:37,385 --> 01:24:42,245
and expose the city to some liability here if

1540
01:24:42,265 --> 01:24:44,205
we put such a restriction

1541
01:24:45,145 --> 01:24:47,845
on a landlord attempting to sell.

1542
01:24:48,745 --> 01:24:52,325
And just to clarify what this time period is,

1543
01:24:52,585 --> 01:24:56,045
is the time period says that the, the

1544
01:24:56,605 --> 01:24:59,805
landlord basically has to not execute

1545
01:25:00,415 --> 01:25:02,325
their sale agreement they have in hand,

1546
01:25:02,345 --> 01:25:05,125
or the notice that they gave for x amount of days

1547
01:25:05,585 --> 01:25:08,405
for the residents to put together an organization

1548
01:25:08,505 --> 01:25:11,925
and make an offer that he or she in Goodwill has to review.

1549
01:25:13,425 --> 01:25:16,325
And when we've had the Ca Casa person in here,

1550
01:25:16,865 --> 01:25:17,965
we talked about dates,

1551
01:25:18,545 --> 01:25:22,645
and I believe she said 120 days was longer than they've ever

1552
01:25:23,445 --> 01:25:24,965
I think so ever practiced.

1553
01:25:25,145 --> 01:25:29,165
So I feel if we, if we had to go forward,

1554
01:25:29,215 --> 01:25:30,445
which I agree with you,

1555
01:25:30,525 --> 01:25:32,805
I think we should have counsel review this.

1556
01:25:32,855 --> 01:25:35,525
We've, we've gotten their legal opinion right here.

1557
01:25:36,825 --> 01:25:40,605
If, if, if a group told us they could do it in 120 days

1558
01:25:40,605 --> 01:25:42,005
and that was enough time, and we say, well,

1559
01:25:42,215 --> 01:25:44,725
we're gonna make it 180 days, I think we're at legal,

1560
01:25:45,775 --> 01:25:49,845
we're at legal risk for imposing undue hardship

1561
01:25:52,155 --> 01:25:54,975
on a manufactured home developer.

1562
01:25:55,805 --> 01:25:58,415
Also, too, when that 180 day

1563
01:25:58,435 --> 01:26:02,695
or 120 day clock ticks, they can't close it.

1564
01:26:02,985 --> 01:26:05,125
You know, they can't go to the, they can't go to the,

1565
01:26:05,435 --> 01:26:07,205
they can't put a notice to the tenants.

1566
01:26:07,305 --> 01:26:08,965
And the tenants say, you know what? We're not interested.

1567
01:26:09,465 --> 01:26:11,085
It stays open because it says in here,

1568
01:26:11,185 --> 01:26:13,245
any other nonprofit can come in and buy this.

1569
01:26:14,425 --> 01:26:18,645
And I think that, that, that's a long, that's a long time

1570
01:26:19,425 --> 01:26:21,245
for someone to keep a deal open

1571
01:26:22,265 --> 01:26:27,245
and it not be executed, be it might not be worthy of it.

1572
01:26:27,305 --> 01:26:28,805
So I, I support you.

1573
01:26:28,805 --> 01:26:33,285
Either we table this or we get the number down so

1574
01:26:33,435 --> 01:26:36,605
Well, so if we table it, then it basically goes away

1575
01:26:36,605 --> 01:26:38,445
because counsel's gonna act on it.

1576
01:26:38,675 --> 01:26:42,165
Correct. Next Monday, or initiate it next Monday.

1577
01:26:42,705 --> 01:26:47,685
So to me, the, the alternative is then

1578
01:26:47,705 --> 01:26:51,565
to change the days to 120.

1579
01:26:53,885 --> 01:26:55,725
I mean, that's one alternative. I, you know, I

1580
01:26:56,685 --> 01:26:59,525
I I want tenants to all have the rights,

1581
01:26:59,525 --> 01:27:01,205
but not expose the city to

1582
01:27:02,515 --> 01:27:03,845
Liability Liability.

1583
01:27:04,025 --> 01:27:06,725
And, and, you know, counsel,

1584
01:27:08,555 --> 01:27:11,005
assistant attorney Carmel has given us

1585
01:27:12,275 --> 01:27:14,245
what her concerns are with this. So, right.

1586
01:27:14,385 --> 01:27:16,765
So, so even if we adopt this tonight,

1587
01:27:16,785 --> 01:27:19,445
if we re make a recommendation to pass this on

1588
01:27:19,985 --> 01:27:23,965
in whatever form it's gonna go as a recommendation

1589
01:27:23,965 --> 01:27:26,965
to counsel and this letter from her,

1590
01:27:26,965 --> 01:27:29,685
this draft ordinance summary of correspondence

1591
01:27:30,845 --> 01:27:32,215
page is gonna go with it.

1592
01:27:32,595 --> 01:27:36,775
So counsel's gonna get an ordinance that we looked at

1593
01:27:38,095 --> 01:27:41,255
a recommendation from the count from the city attorney

1594
01:27:41,635 --> 01:27:42,735
to study it some more.

1595
01:27:43,195 --> 01:27:46,935
And if I were counsel, I would study it some more. Russell.

1596
01:27:48,125 --> 01:27:49,295
Yeah. Thanks for that Chair.

1597
01:27:49,495 --> 01:27:51,975
Verner, I think the key here is what we need is additional

1598
01:27:52,925 --> 01:27:55,655
city attorney review on this portion.

1599
01:27:57,205 --> 01:27:58,655
Okay. We're not gonna get it tonight.

1600
01:27:58,915 --> 01:28:00,415
And if we, if we wait,

1601
01:28:00,555 --> 01:28:03,295
and if we, if we decide to wait tonight,

1602
01:28:03,745 --> 01:28:04,855
we're not gonna get it at all

1603
01:28:04,855 --> 01:28:06,775
because this ordinance is going forward.

1604
01:28:07,325 --> 01:28:09,215
Yeah. Regardless Of what we do.

1605
01:28:09,675 --> 01:28:10,895
And I think we move it forward.

1606
01:28:11,395 --> 01:28:12,495
And then in that time,

1607
01:28:12,635 --> 01:28:16,175
it receives the additional city attorney review. When is

1608
01:28:16,175 --> 01:28:17,175
That?

1609
01:28:17,175 --> 01:28:17,455
Before it, it gets to council.

1610
01:28:18,285 --> 01:28:19,695
Well, yeah, Yeah.

1611
01:28:25,285 --> 01:28:28,515
Right. Correct.

1612
01:28:29,095 --> 01:28:31,875
If the commission recommended that the council

1613
01:28:32,895 --> 01:28:36,315
or that the city attorney further review Chapter 10 is

1614
01:28:36,515 --> 01:28:38,675
outlined in this correspondence summary.

1615
01:28:40,055 --> 01:28:41,955
My expectation is the city attorney's

1616
01:28:41,955 --> 01:28:43,395
office is gonna do that.

1617
01:28:44,055 --> 01:28:47,115
In any event, for presentation to City Council

1618
01:28:47,955 --> 01:28:51,435
and City Council on June 16th, which is the date

1619
01:28:51,435 --> 01:28:55,035
of their public hearing on these ordinances, could at

1620
01:28:55,035 --> 01:28:57,515
that time recommend that

1621
01:28:58,265 --> 01:29:00,075
chapter 10.116

1622
01:29:00,095 --> 01:29:04,925
or Ordinance 33 0 6, have further legal review

1623
01:29:05,385 --> 01:29:06,645
and come back to counsel.

1624
01:29:07,645 --> 01:29:10,125
I guess the question is whether the planning commission

1625
01:29:10,125 --> 01:29:12,205
feels it's incumbent for it to come back

1626
01:29:12,205 --> 01:29:15,125
to the Planning commission for review and evaluation.

1627
01:29:15,505 --> 01:29:17,325
If you're able to provide recommendations

1628
01:29:17,945 --> 01:29:19,885
for the elements within the ordinance

1629
01:29:19,885 --> 01:29:21,605
that should be considered,

1630
01:29:25,145 --> 01:29:28,965
Do we have the ability to ask that it come back us?

1631
01:29:29,305 --> 01:29:32,045
You can make any re recommendation that you'd like.

1632
01:29:34,235 --> 01:29:34,525
Okay.

1633
01:29:40,565 --> 01:29:43,285
I had like to make a motion. Okay.

1634
01:29:45,165 --> 01:29:47,765
I move that. The planning commission recommends city

1635
01:29:47,765 --> 01:29:51,325
council adopt the proposed manufactured home park zone

1636
01:29:51,325 --> 01:29:52,685
ordinance package

1637
01:29:52,905 --> 01:29:56,285
for PA dash l dash 2026 dash

1638
01:29:56,515 --> 01:29:58,245
0 0 0 1 8,

1639
01:29:58,755 --> 01:30:02,885
including ordinances 32 96, 32 97,

1640
01:30:03,185 --> 01:30:07,285
and 32 98, together with the supported findings

1641
01:30:07,705 --> 01:30:09,245
as recommended by staff

1642
01:30:09,465 --> 01:30:12,285
and as amended on the record tonight, especially by

1643
01:30:13,005 --> 01:30:14,325
Commissioner Lineer

1644
01:30:16,425 --> 01:30:17,445
and further recommended

1645
01:30:17,475 --> 01:30:22,325
that Ordinance 33 0 6 A MC chapter 10.16

1646
01:30:22,545 --> 01:30:25,485
be forwarded to council with planning commission's comments,

1647
01:30:26,105 --> 01:30:29,325
but receive additional city attorney review before adoption.

1648
01:30:31,945 --> 01:30:35,285
And you're propos you're not proposing any change,

1649
01:30:35,385 --> 01:30:39,165
any wording changes to 36 33 0 6

1650
01:30:40,155 --> 01:30:41,685
such as we've been discussing?

1651
01:30:42,825 --> 01:30:45,565
Not at this time, but I'm open

1652
01:30:45,625 --> 01:30:47,725
to this motion being amended.

1653
01:30:48,875 --> 01:30:51,845
Okay. Is there a second? Second.

1654
01:30:52,955 --> 01:30:57,005
Okay. We have a motion. Motion and a second on the floor.

1655
01:30:57,945 --> 01:30:58,945
Any discussion?

1656
01:31:06,765 --> 01:31:08,935
Yeah, just one point of discussion.

1657
01:31:09,095 --> 01:31:12,975
I, I'm basically supportive of the motion, you know,

1658
01:31:12,975 --> 01:31:14,655
council's gonna get its crack at it,

1659
01:31:15,195 --> 01:31:16,335
so let it be their problem.

1660
01:31:18,415 --> 01:31:22,895
I, I personally wanted Proposed ordinance 33 0 6

1661
01:31:22,955 --> 01:31:25,775
to be more protective of manufactured park

1662
01:31:26,675 --> 01:31:29,695
of manufactured home park residence in the event

1663
01:31:29,815 --> 01:31:31,735
of a park conversion or closure.

1664
01:31:31,915 --> 01:31:33,975
But the state law doesn't allow us to do that.

1665
01:31:34,895 --> 01:31:38,535
Therefore, I, I wanna strongly encourage all current

1666
01:31:38,595 --> 01:31:42,375
and prospective residents of manufactured home parks

1667
01:31:42,375 --> 01:31:44,775
to familiarize themselves with ORS chapter 90,

1668
01:31:46,185 --> 01:31:48,255
especially section 6 45,

1669
01:31:49,845 --> 01:31:52,815
that provides some resident protections generally,

1670
01:31:52,915 --> 01:31:56,815
and a legal entitlement to compensation in the event

1671
01:31:56,915 --> 01:31:58,815
of park conversion or closure.

1672
01:31:59,945 --> 01:32:03,445
For that reason, I would feel very comfortable

1673
01:32:04,125 --> 01:32:08,925
adopting code provisions that provide for tenant notice

1674
01:32:10,465 --> 01:32:13,645
of a perspective park sale tenant opportunity

1675
01:32:13,665 --> 01:32:15,805
to collectively own and purchase a park.

1676
01:32:16,385 --> 01:32:20,005
And I think what's obvious to one person may not be

1677
01:32:20,005 --> 01:32:21,045
so obvious to another.

1678
01:32:21,115 --> 01:32:22,365
It's in the eye of the beholder

1679
01:32:22,425 --> 01:32:26,245
and people are looking to this policy to define

1680
01:32:26,505 --> 01:32:28,485
or describe their rights.

1681
01:32:31,045 --> 01:32:33,845
I, I'm also supportive of the relocation standards

1682
01:32:33,865 --> 01:32:35,765
and the relocation planning beds,

1683
01:32:35,785 --> 01:32:37,085
but I do understand

1684
01:32:37,085 --> 01:32:39,205
that we may be constricted here by state law.

1685
01:32:40,585 --> 01:32:43,845
I'm, I'm thankful to everyone for the work

1686
01:32:43,845 --> 01:32:45,045
to iron out these details.

1687
01:32:46,505 --> 01:32:48,085
And I do want to note that the city

1688
01:32:48,085 --> 01:32:50,885
of Eugene has a more exacting, onerous,

1689
01:32:51,225 --> 01:32:53,285
and punitive ordinance

1690
01:32:53,285 --> 01:32:56,085
regarding manufactured harm home park closure

1691
01:32:56,155 --> 01:32:57,365
than what is proposed here.

1692
01:33:05,545 --> 01:33:07,925
So Michael, are you confident that you have the motion?

1693
01:33:09,125 --> 01:33:13,325
I will move to, I will need to review it. Okay, John,

1694
01:33:14,365 --> 01:33:15,365
Thank you Chair.

1695
01:33:15,365 --> 01:33:17,325
I just wanna make one quick clarification on the motion.

1696
01:33:17,545 --> 01:33:20,605
So there is a recommended motion on pages 21

1697
01:33:20,665 --> 01:33:22,445
and 22 of the packet this evening.

1698
01:33:23,985 --> 01:33:26,925
And it does cite specifically the ordinance

1699
01:33:28,105 --> 01:33:30,885
and the amendments to the municipal code.

1700
01:33:31,245 --> 01:33:32,925
I think there's three bullets there

1701
01:33:32,995 --> 01:33:37,285
that cover 32 96, 32, 97, 32, 98.

1702
01:33:38,025 --> 01:33:39,525
Did you mention all that Russell?

1703
01:33:40,265 --> 01:33:41,765
I'm just, yes, he did. Okay, great.

1704
01:33:41,825 --> 01:33:44,845
All right. Thank you. And, and also 3, 3 0 6. Alright.

1705
01:33:44,875 --> 01:33:48,805
Alright, great. Thank you. If I could have a point

1706
01:33:48,805 --> 01:33:52,525
of clarification in terms of the motion indicated as

1707
01:33:52,965 --> 01:33:56,845
to incorporate the recommendations of staff

1708
01:33:57,505 --> 01:34:01,565
and essentially those included amending ordinance 3 2, 9 7

1709
01:34:01,625 --> 01:34:04,565
and 3 2 9 8 to remove upper pines

1710
01:34:04,705 --> 01:34:07,965
and 2 78 Idaho Street from the proposed

1711
01:34:08,365 --> 01:34:10,045
manufactured home park zone.

1712
01:34:10,755 --> 01:34:15,005
Also, I have note of amending the manufactured dwelling park

1713
01:34:15,005 --> 01:34:18,605
definition to recognize manufactured home parks

1714
01:34:18,945 --> 01:34:21,685
and manufactured housing developments as synonyms.

1715
01:34:23,225 --> 01:34:25,205
And I'm curious if there were any others.

1716
01:34:25,665 --> 01:34:28,125
But I, those are the two I made note of.

1717
01:34:31,885 --> 01:34:34,805
I don't think so. Thank you. Thank you for that summary.

1718
01:34:36,105 --> 01:34:38,005
And I'm not sure if I caught this, Brandon,

1719
01:34:38,145 --> 01:34:39,445
but there was the exclusion

1720
01:34:39,445 --> 01:34:42,445
of Jackson Well Springs from 32 98 as well. Correct.

1721
01:34:42,495 --> 01:34:43,605
Thank you. Thank You.

1722
01:34:49,645 --> 01:34:51,895
Okay. I think Susan

1723
01:34:55,595 --> 01:34:56,855
is is there magic

1724
01:34:57,065 --> 01:34:58,645
To the date of this appearing

1725
01:34:58,645 --> 01:34:59,845
before the council next week?

1726
01:35:01,905 --> 01:35:04,405
Are we working against a time clock or something

1727
01:35:05,105 --> 01:35:07,045
For some of the elements?

1728
01:35:07,185 --> 01:35:09,685
The childcare facilities we're hopeful

1729
01:35:09,785 --> 01:35:13,285
to have them have first reading prior to July one.

1730
01:35:13,745 --> 01:35:16,965
But the date is largely self-imposed in terms

1731
01:35:16,985 --> 01:35:18,125
of review by counsel.

1732
01:35:19,025 --> 01:35:21,085
It is the primary agenda item on that

1733
01:35:21,585 --> 01:35:23,205
and has already been publicly noticed.

1734
01:35:27,455 --> 01:35:31,355
I'm not entirely comfortable not having us look at this

1735
01:35:31,365 --> 01:35:36,275
again, this particular section because it is so critical

1736
01:35:37,455 --> 01:35:40,795
and you know, as Commissioner Leininger pointed out there,

1737
01:35:41,335 --> 01:35:46,195
you know, could be things as in term, you know, as simple

1738
01:35:46,375 --> 01:35:47,395
as wording changes.

1739
01:35:48,095 --> 01:35:49,715
You know, there's the 180.

1740
01:35:51,165 --> 01:35:53,115
There are things that we just received

1741
01:35:53,175 --> 01:35:54,675
and try to read while we're in here

1742
01:35:55,335 --> 01:35:56,675
trying to do other things.

1743
01:35:56,965 --> 01:35:58,835
Right. Which is a little bit unfair.

1744
01:35:59,775 --> 01:36:04,335
So I just wanted

1745
01:36:04,435 --> 01:36:08,815
to raise that point in case we might want to

1746
01:36:10,315 --> 01:36:14,415
adjust the motion or somehow

1747
01:36:15,295 --> 01:36:18,135
provide an opportunity for us to speak to this section.

1748
01:36:18,225 --> 01:36:19,975
Again, review and speak to this section

1749
01:36:20,555 --> 01:36:22,055
before it goes to the council

1750
01:36:22,055 --> 01:36:23,735
because I think we're doing everyone

1751
01:36:24,955 --> 01:36:26,335
our best duty if we do that.

1752
01:36:32,455 --> 01:36:35,335
I am just concerned about hanging things up in time.

1753
01:36:37,255 --> 01:36:39,455
I mean, I know that there's no urgency necessarily,

1754
01:36:39,595 --> 01:36:43,895
but it seems like this should move forward.

1755
01:36:44,975 --> 01:36:49,055
I mean, we could always go to council and speak to two

1756
01:36:52,415 --> 01:36:54,315
Or who knows, they may send it back to us.

1757
01:36:55,865 --> 01:36:59,895
They may send it back to us for further review.

1758
01:37:00,405 --> 01:37:03,895
They may. So that's what Susan's asking for, but

1759
01:37:03,895 --> 01:37:05,975
She's asking for us to initiate that. Yeah.

1760
01:37:06,675 --> 01:37:10,055
And I am not to be oppositional,

1761
01:37:10,955 --> 01:37:15,775
but not sure that it's that valuable compared to

1762
01:37:16,555 --> 01:37:17,615
moving things forward.

1763
01:37:20,555 --> 01:37:21,555
Do you wanna make an amendment?

1764
01:37:23,135 --> 01:37:26,775
I would like the, amend the motion to,

1765
01:37:29,175 --> 01:37:31,495
I don't know how to put, make the right words for this

1766
01:37:32,395 --> 01:37:34,335
not being the greatest parliamentarian in the

1767
01:37:34,335 --> 01:37:35,615
world to proceed.

1768
01:37:36,355 --> 01:37:40,015
To withdraw To withdraw 3 3 0 6 for further review

1769
01:37:40,235 --> 01:37:41,975
by legal and the planning commission

1770
01:37:45,035 --> 01:37:46,735
And bring back to Planning, planning

1771
01:37:46,735 --> 01:37:47,735
Commission.

1772
01:37:47,735 --> 01:37:48,215
The rest can proceed,

1773
01:37:48,215 --> 01:37:52,975
but not 3, 3 0 6 without the legal

1774
01:37:53,595 --> 01:37:55,605
review that we have requested as well

1775
01:37:55,605 --> 01:37:56,965
as planning commission review.

1776
01:37:57,995 --> 01:38:00,005
Okay. But I don't know why

1777
01:38:00,005 --> 01:38:01,885
that wouldn't take more than why

1778
01:38:01,885 --> 01:38:03,125
that would take more than a month,

1779
01:38:03,255 --> 01:38:05,885
which doesn't seem like a whole lot in a process

1780
01:38:06,065 --> 01:38:08,565
that's been going on for years.

1781
01:38:10,285 --> 01:38:12,295
Okay. Let's see if there's a second of the motion.

1782
01:38:18,415 --> 01:38:20,975
I will second the motion. Okay.

1783
01:38:22,315 --> 01:38:24,375
So we vote on the amendment first

1784
01:38:24,595 --> 01:38:26,375
and then we vote on the main motion.

1785
01:38:28,155 --> 01:38:31,135
So Russell,

1786
01:38:32,635 --> 01:38:34,015
Can I speak to the amendment?

1787
01:38:34,245 --> 01:38:38,015
Sure. I just, something about me says like, I want

1788
01:38:38,015 --> 01:38:39,255
to get some form

1789
01:38:39,275 --> 01:38:42,655
of protections like towards the finish line

1790
01:38:42,655 --> 01:38:43,975
sooner rather than later.

1791
01:38:44,205 --> 01:38:47,935
That this is gonna continue working itself out between now

1792
01:38:47,955 --> 01:38:50,615
and then, I think in a positive way,

1793
01:38:50,755 --> 01:38:53,215
but if we don't send it in that direction,

1794
01:38:53,285 --> 01:38:56,575
then it just gets hung up in space and time.

1795
01:38:56,675 --> 01:38:59,735
And I would like to see it move forward.

1796
01:39:03,975 --> 01:39:06,415
I would also say to comment that

1797
01:39:06,965 --> 01:39:08,415
council's gonna do what they're gonna do.

1798
01:39:08,675 --> 01:39:11,895
So they don't always take our advice, which is,

1799
01:39:12,155 --> 01:39:13,255
you know, part of it.

1800
01:39:13,255 --> 01:39:16,295
But we at least we'd be on the record saying that we,

1801
01:39:18,115 --> 01:39:21,055
we, we brought coun counsel in

1802
01:39:21,055 --> 01:39:23,575
to discuss this further on your motion.

1803
01:39:24,235 --> 01:39:28,695
Can I ask a question? Would it be just moving it one month

1804
01:39:28,755 --> 01:39:31,895
or would we require council to come in?

1805
01:39:32,315 --> 01:39:35,575
Not city council, council to come in and, yeah.

1806
01:39:35,875 --> 01:39:39,655
And to debate the, the finer points of this

1807
01:39:39,655 --> 01:39:43,135
because it, it doesn't pass some paper back and forth.

1808
01:39:43,405 --> 01:39:45,175
There's no more questions are gonna come up.

1809
01:39:45,275 --> 01:39:47,735
So I didn't know if there was

1810
01:39:48,515 --> 01:39:50,415
an option in your motion for that.

1811
01:39:54,245 --> 01:39:56,015
Well, as I said, I'm certainly all in

1812
01:39:56,015 --> 01:39:57,135
favor for timeliness.

1813
01:39:58,935 --> 01:39:59,935
I

1814
01:40:00,725 --> 01:40:02,135
What do you foresee, Brandon?

1815
01:40:02,135 --> 01:40:04,575
What do you foresee as the timeline?

1816
01:40:05,435 --> 01:40:08,495
If, if Susan's motion is adopted,

1817
01:40:09,995 --> 01:40:13,335
If the motion is adopted, it would be presented

1818
01:40:13,335 --> 01:40:16,775
to city council and they're also being presented all

1819
01:40:16,795 --> 01:40:18,455
for ordinances for consideration.

1820
01:40:18,455 --> 01:40:21,775
But they'll have your recommendation to remand

1821
01:40:21,775 --> 01:40:22,895
that ordinance to the planning

1822
01:40:22,895 --> 01:40:24,815
commission for further review.

1823
01:40:25,375 --> 01:40:27,655
I unfortunately can't speak for legal counsel as

1824
01:40:27,655 --> 01:40:31,175
to when they would be able to meet

1825
01:40:31,175 --> 01:40:33,535
with the planning commission and deliberate

1826
01:40:33,715 --> 01:40:36,655
and factor in your comments at this point.

1827
01:40:36,735 --> 01:40:38,415
I do anticipate legal counsel will be

1828
01:40:39,005 --> 01:40:42,415
reviewing this ordinance between now and June 16th

1829
01:40:42,595 --> 01:40:45,135
and may have recommendations to present

1830
01:40:45,135 --> 01:40:46,695
to counsel that evening.

1831
01:40:48,595 --> 01:40:51,735
So I also can't speak for counsel as to whether they would

1832
01:40:52,275 --> 01:40:56,885
accept that motion and not move forward on 33 0 6

1833
01:40:58,265 --> 01:40:59,445
or some fashion of it,

1834
01:41:04,385 --> 01:41:07,215
Which How to, how to put this the right way.

1835
01:41:07,235 --> 01:41:10,975
So Councilor Herrin's, commissioner Herrin's comment meant

1836
01:41:13,075 --> 01:41:14,535
is true in either regard

1837
01:41:15,915 --> 01:41:19,455
and I just see merit in a,

1838
01:41:20,635 --> 01:41:24,415
in an amendment that strengthens the

1839
01:41:25,845 --> 01:41:29,335
concern that we have about taking particular care

1840
01:41:29,925 --> 01:41:33,975
with this section because there are, you know,

1841
01:41:34,045 --> 01:41:36,495
several things that have been discussed here.

1842
01:41:37,475 --> 01:41:42,215
And in terms of potential changes, again late,

1843
01:41:42,555 --> 01:41:44,135
you know, we appreciate everyone's efforts,

1844
01:41:44,275 --> 01:41:47,935
but haven't had full time probably to consider all of this.

1845
01:41:48,355 --> 01:41:52,175
And, and because of the, you know, the importance

1846
01:41:52,175 --> 01:41:54,615
of getting it right with the number of days.

1847
01:41:56,965 --> 01:41:58,615
Okay. So I agree with you,

1848
01:41:58,615 --> 01:42:01,535
but I, I suggest a vote the other way to agree with you.

1849
01:42:04,645 --> 01:42:06,775
Okay, so your motion is,

1850
01:42:11,145 --> 01:42:12,605
let me make sure I understand your motion.

1851
01:42:12,605 --> 01:42:17,405
Your motion is to send ordinance

1852
01:42:17,405 --> 01:42:20,925
3 3 0 6 with the package forward to counsel

1853
01:42:21,475 --> 01:42:25,045
with a recommendation that counsel not look at it

1854
01:42:26,505 --> 01:42:29,965
and send it back for planning commission to

1855
01:42:31,245 --> 01:42:35,205
continue its review and incorporate a city attorney review.

1856
01:42:38,105 --> 01:42:41,405
So you wanna send it forward with the package as opposed to

1857
01:42:44,465 --> 01:42:46,205
not making, not sending it forward.

1858
01:42:46,345 --> 01:42:46,565
Now,

1859
01:42:50,585 --> 01:42:51,685
is it, so even if

1860
01:42:51,785 --> 01:42:53,365
You don't mean not look at it literally.

1861
01:42:56,675 --> 01:42:59,725
Well, yeah, I was thinking counsel, I was trying

1862
01:42:59,725 --> 01:43:02,365
to figure out whether you were meaning that counsel

1863
01:43:03,655 --> 01:43:06,645
would not look at it as part of the package.

1864
01:43:07,115 --> 01:43:09,965
This, but counsel's gonna look at it.

1865
01:43:10,385 --> 01:43:12,245
It is publicly noticed to be presented

1866
01:43:12,245 --> 01:43:14,605
to counsel on June, June 16th.

1867
01:43:14,995 --> 01:43:17,685
Okay. And so it will be part of their application

1868
01:43:18,265 --> 01:43:20,325
or a part of their packet materials.

1869
01:43:20,555 --> 01:43:23,285
However, they'll also have the recommendation from this body

1870
01:43:23,825 --> 01:43:25,605
and can act on that recommendation.

1871
01:43:26,915 --> 01:43:31,525
Okay. To clarify, so I understand the motion, would it

1872
01:43:32,035 --> 01:43:35,005
basically be saying we want this back from the council?

1873
01:43:36,245 --> 01:43:36,535
Okay.

1874
01:43:42,005 --> 01:43:43,975
Okay. So let's vote on the motion.

1875
01:43:46,035 --> 01:43:48,215
The amendment. Sorry amendment.

1876
01:43:48,215 --> 01:43:49,695
Michael, you vote on the motion first?

1877
01:43:49,915 --> 01:43:52,085
No, the amendment first and then the motion.

1878
01:43:52,315 --> 01:43:54,285
Michael, would you do the roll call?

1879
01:43:57,165 --> 01:43:58,205
Commissioner Phillips?

1880
01:43:59,425 --> 01:44:02,325
No. Commissioner Kerrin?

1881
01:44:02,945 --> 01:44:06,165
No. Commissioner Herron? No.

1882
01:44:07,805 --> 01:44:09,245
Commissioner McCracken?

1883
01:44:10,985 --> 01:44:15,085
Yes. Commissioner Leininger? No. Commissioner Moore?

1884
01:44:15,785 --> 01:44:17,365
No. Chair Vernor?

1885
01:44:17,825 --> 01:44:21,145
No. Okay.

1886
01:44:21,405 --> 01:44:25,105
So we have our main motion UNAM amended.

1887
01:44:28,005 --> 01:44:31,025
Are we ready to vote on that? Okay.

1888
01:44:31,025 --> 01:44:32,225
Michael, we call the roll

1889
01:44:34,785 --> 01:44:35,865
Commissioner Phillips.

1890
01:44:37,325 --> 01:44:39,505
Yes. Commissioner Kerrin?

1891
01:44:39,845 --> 01:44:42,025
Yes. Commissioner Herron? Yes.

1892
01:44:42,505 --> 01:44:44,065
Commissioner McCracken. Jenn?

1893
01:44:47,055 --> 01:44:50,465
Whoa. Yes.

1894
01:44:51,225 --> 01:44:54,105
Commissioner Leidinger? Yes. Commissioner

1895
01:44:54,165 --> 01:44:55,165
Mar?

1896
01:44:55,165 --> 01:44:56,265
Yes. Chair Werner?

1897
01:44:56,605 --> 01:44:58,825
Yes. Okay.

1898
01:44:58,965 --> 01:45:02,265
So the package of a, of motion of ordinances goes forward

1899
01:45:02,845 --> 01:45:03,745
to the council

1900
01:45:07,765 --> 01:45:09,265
and we are done with this issue.

1901
01:45:10,215 --> 01:45:13,385
Okay. So we have move on to next item on our agenda.

1902
01:45:13,535 --> 01:45:18,065
Open discussion. Anybody have a topic for open discussion?

1903
01:45:19,445 --> 01:45:21,465
Can I ask a quick question chair? Sure, go for it.

1904
01:45:21,945 --> 01:45:25,985
Que question for staff. Brandon,

1905
01:45:27,565 --> 01:45:29,585
I'm, I'm wondering if there's any update on the

1906
01:45:29,585 --> 01:45:33,025
transportation plan revision with the OOC contract?

1907
01:45:33,965 --> 01:45:35,545
Yes, there's a kickoff meeting

1908
01:45:35,725 --> 01:45:39,345
for a project management team that was scheduled for,

1909
01:45:40,285 --> 01:45:41,665
I'm not remembering the exact date,

1910
01:45:41,765 --> 01:45:42,785
but near the end of this month.

1911
01:45:42,785 --> 01:45:47,585
June 29th, 10:00 AM Thank you. So, so that is the kickoff.

1912
01:45:48,125 --> 01:45:49,345
That's encouraging. Thank you.

1913
01:45:50,085 --> 01:45:52,465
Is that, is that open to the public? No. Okay.

1914
01:45:54,295 --> 01:45:57,945
What does that entail? So the project management team

1915
01:45:58,145 --> 01:46:01,585
includes myself, Scott Flurry, the consultants

1916
01:46:01,625 --> 01:46:03,865
that were selected for the project.

1917
01:46:04,085 --> 01:46:07,745
And the kickoff meeting is typically to look at an outline

1918
01:46:07,925 --> 01:46:10,785
of project deliverables and timelines

1919
01:46:11,045 --> 01:46:13,225
and reach concurrence on those things.

1920
01:46:13,405 --> 01:46:14,665
So it's mostly administrative.

1921
01:46:15,565 --> 01:46:19,345
Can we, can we know who was selected for the consultants?

1922
01:46:20,005 --> 01:46:21,465
We will. I'll provide that back to you.

1923
01:46:21,565 --> 01:46:24,105
I'm not recalling their name unless you remember.

1924
01:46:26,125 --> 01:46:27,545
I'd be better to check. Yeah,

1925
01:46:28,745 --> 01:46:30,065
I have a name in mine, but I'd

1926
01:46:30,065 --> 01:46:31,065
Like to make sure.

1927
01:46:31,065 --> 01:46:33,825
Yeah. And again, this is a project that is primarily funded

1928
01:46:34,205 --> 01:46:37,185
by the Oregon Department of Transportation,

1929
01:46:37,705 --> 01:46:39,745
although city will have a contribution to it.

1930
01:46:40,245 --> 01:46:42,025
So the ODOT

1931
01:46:42,045 --> 01:46:45,425
and engineering division both worked collaboratively

1932
01:46:45,445 --> 01:46:46,705
to select the consultant team.

1933
01:46:47,365 --> 01:46:50,125
What's the expectation on timing? How long will it

1934
01:46:50,125 --> 01:46:51,125
Be?

1935
01:46:51,125 --> 01:46:51,805
That will be one of the results

1936
01:46:51,825 --> 01:46:53,805
of the project kickoff meeting

1937
01:46:54,065 --> 01:46:55,685
to outline the scope of timeline.

1938
01:46:56,315 --> 01:46:58,045
Okay. Thank you Brandon.

1939
01:47:00,825 --> 01:47:02,885
And is there a motion to adjourn?

1940
01:47:05,555 --> 01:47:10,165
Move to adjourn. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye.

1941
01:47:10,465 --> 01:47:13,845
We are adjourned. I.