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>> So, first we'd like to find out who we

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» So, first we'd like to find out who we

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have present. I can see Gary Mertoff.

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>> I see Dan Grady's office is online. Is

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that us or is that Dan?

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>> His boardroom.

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>> That's his boardroom. And we need to

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» That's his boardroom. And we need to

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know who we can see Northwest Regional

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Planning is online. Who's with us from

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>> This is Autumn. Emily will be joining in

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» This is Autumn. Emily will be joining in

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just a couple minutes as well.

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>> Autumn and who?

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» Autumn and who?

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>> Emily.

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» Emily.

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>> Autumn. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

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» Autumn. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

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>> She just appeared online.

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» She just appeared online.

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>> And then, hi Emily. And then we need to

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» And then, hi Emily. And then we need to

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know who is area code 715.

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Can I read that?

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>> 9696732.

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» Meaning that's me, Elizabeth Franic.

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>> Hi Liz.

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» Hi Liz.

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>> Hi Liz.

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>> Okay. Glad everybody's here.

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>> So uh we could take a roll call then

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» So uh we could take a roll call then

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>> Okay. George Busousay

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>> Bradley Ray is excused. Elizabeth Franic

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» Bradley Ray is excused. Elizabeth Franic

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>> here. Pat Kenny

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>> Dan Greedy is excused. Lisa Radkey.

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» Is Lisa Radkkey online?

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>> No. Okay. And then Charlie Ortman

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» No. Okay. And then Charlie Ortman

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>> And then Paul Wilharm.

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» Okay. So business,

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>> first order of business will be uh this

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» first order of business will be uh this

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is the Ashlin County Planning Committee

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working on the Ashlin County

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Comprehensive Plan. Uh for anybody here

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for public comment or uh or listening in

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and we will be uh going over the agenda

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as posted online. It's uh Monday, July

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21st, 1 p.m. over at Ashlin County

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Courthouse and my name is George Buset

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we start with the approval of the

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agenda. Uh, has everybody had a chance

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to look it over and can we have a motion

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for an approval or comments or

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amendments? Anybody?

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>> Move to approve.

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>> Is that a second from you, Liz?

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agenda is approved.

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comments order. We had a motion or a

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second, but we didn't vote.

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there was a second. So, all in favor of

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minutes. Is there a second?

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items. And item A is little fun facts or

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favorite things about Ashlin County.

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» Maybe you know this, but Ashlin County

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right survived. So the panic of 1857

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railroad, the Wisconsin Central, reached

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it. The years 1886 and 1887 saw a boom

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little bit of Ashlin history. Any fun

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people history, we have lots of um

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famous people from Ashlin, famous in the

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big picture, maybe not famous that we

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American ice hockey player who played

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for 17 years. And Milton Leroy Moose

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Gardner was a professional American

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subcommittee status reports.

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issues. Uh Lisa Ratkkey.

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people who have expressed in the past an

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interest to talk about issues and

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opportunities. We're going to do just

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little half an hour um check-ins to pull

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those ideas in a more formal way. that

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they would come to one of these meetings

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and express their opinions as well as

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help spread the idea to their friends

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and neighbors that these discussions

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about issues and opportunities and

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obstacles are are happening.

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issues team? Uh then cultural resources

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and community facilities. Uh Liz, do you

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have something to add today?

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nothing at this time. I'm going to be

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inviting certain um folks to our

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meetings I think that and putting that

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on their agenda in the very near near

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future. Thank you.

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>> Uh moving on, uh agriculture, forestry,

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meeting since the last comp plan meeting

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and we're going to have another meeting

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every month or so for the remainder of

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the year. But I got a question for

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Alyssa. Back in um December, January, we

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had I believe three egg related

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meetings. And so my question is why did

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we have those meetings? How do they tie

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that before we even made assignments for

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who would have who on the comp plan.

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>> Yeah. So, um, about a year ago, I

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» Yeah. So, um, about a year ago, I

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started talking to Dan Grady about, um,

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hearing from people that in the county

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that they were very interested in making

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sure that the new comp plan included

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robust conversations about how extreme

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weather was affecting county, people,

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places, and resources.

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Services um, team of expert planners who

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deal with this. and we came up with this

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method of working with

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each of the nine elements

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um current plan goals and objectives and

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making sure that they were infused with

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issues of importance related to ex

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extreme weather. So those were just

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conversations around each chapter. Um we

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we went through five chapters and then

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the federal government um cut the people

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on the National Park Service team. So, I

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don't have access to them anymore, but

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we met with transportation, natural

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resource, agriculture, land use, and um

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utilities and community facilities. And

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so each of those committees when um they

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meet with a larger group looking at all

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egg issues in this case, not just

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climate related or weather related that

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they would get a copy of those

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recommendations from that group of

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experts and specialists and people like

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yourself working in those areas and say,

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"Will you please consider our

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recommendations

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about how the county could deal with um

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impacts from extreme weather when you're

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looking at your broader chapter

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>> and then we'll have to figure out how to

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» and then we'll have to figure out how to

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tie that into what we're doing on the

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comp plan going forward.

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>> Yeah. So, the way we had set it up was

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» Yeah. So, the way we had set it up was

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let's say you're going to um regional

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planning is going to have a meeting

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scheduled to talk about the egg chapter.

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Then everybody involved, the public can

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have a copy. We'll post it online. will

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certainly give it to the members and say

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here's what a group of local and state

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specialists had decided were good

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recommendations to be included and then

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that egg committee will look at those

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and say yeah this one really fits really

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well or this one we don't feel is viable

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>> all right thank you

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» all right thank you

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>> does that sound like what you were

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» does that sound like what you were

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hoping okay cool and thanks for being

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>> so I have a another question about the

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» so I have a another question about the

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egg section and the I don't quite

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understand fully how the farmland

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preservation plan work flows into the

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comprehensive plan as is it like a third

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section how do you see that Pat and I'd

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like to ask the same thing of Emily how

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does the farmland preservation plan flow

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into the comprehensive plan

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>> the farmland preservation plan has to be

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» the farmland preservation plan has to be

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updated anyway and just with the timing

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of it all it ties in with the schedule

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we're on and So the farmland

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preservation plan like the forestry plan

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is a rather lengthy document and what

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goes in the comp plan is going to be

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much more brief than that. Um but then

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another round of input for the public

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specifically for the comp plan even

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though we have input opportunities for

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the farmland preservation plan. So it's

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going to provide a lot of background

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that the whole document won't be in

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there.

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So does that mean we'll be utilizing a

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lot of the background information from

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the farmland preservation plan plan

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for data requirements within the comp

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plan like land usage, land mapping.

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The topics in the farmland preservation

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plan should provide

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an excellent starting point for the

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conversation on the egg component. But

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because the comp plan is going to have

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its own opportunities for input, we

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shouldn't

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um decide in advance what should go or

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not go into the comp plan and how it

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should be framed. So the comp plan is

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another opportunity for that discussion.

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But the farmland preservation plan and

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the outcomes from there, Charlie's on

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that also should give us a very strong

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framework to work from as we consider

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topics and issues to bring forward for

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the discussion on egg.

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>> So as I understand that then both Lisa's

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» So as I understand that then both Lisa's

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pre-work and the farmland preservation

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pre-work all feeds into being available

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information for the um the egg section

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of the comp plan.

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>> That is the hope. That's what we've been

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» That is the hope. That's what we've been

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working towards.

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>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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>> So, I'd like to if Emily, if you're

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» So, I'd like to if Emily, if you're

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online, do you have an observation with

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that regard?

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» I'm not.

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>> Yeah. Can you hear me everyone?

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» Yeah. Can you hear me everyone?

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>> I can hear you now.

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» I can hear you now.

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So they're two distinct but closely

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related planning documents

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and the farmland preservation

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even has follows the same adoption

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procedures that the comprehensive plan

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does so that they can be fully um

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coordinated and integrated with each

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other.

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So comprehensive plan would be talk

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thinking about broadland use guidance

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and then the farmland preservation plan

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focused on

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eggland protection.

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» Okay.

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>> Thank you. Um Pat,

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» Thank you. Um Pat,

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>> I have a question.

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» I have a question.

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>> Go ahead, Liz.

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» Go ahead, Liz.

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in the plan. Can we have data um like if

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there's any existing small dairy farms

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in the area and how do they see their uh

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future in the farming community and how

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are they staying small as opposed to

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growing?

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Yeah,

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>> the farmland preservation plan has in

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» the farmland preservation plan has in

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the current draft version and the

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updated version will have information on

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all the different types of farming and

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sizes. And they've got information on

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the number of headed cattle, dairy and

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beef. So that's all in there. And then

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those issues and concerns related to,

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you know, egg in general, but also dairy

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farms. And we've talked about smallcale

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farming and smaller ones um at um

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extensively also. And Emily, you made a

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comment about, you know, the two plans.

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Um, forget the exact phrase you

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mentioned, but it's important that

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there's consistency in there when we're

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done so that one plan doesn't say one

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thing and the other one's at odds with

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it.

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Any other discussion on the egg?

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>> Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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>> Section. Then we move on to

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» Section. Then we move on to

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transportation. So that's my element. I

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have asked Paul Wilharm to join me in

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that effort on uh transportation

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utilities particularly in sense that

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Mandal Island has uh unique

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transportation issues and that there are

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issues around the future of

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transportation on the water in Bay and

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around the Basel Islands. And I think

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Paul you also have some background on uh

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with regard to airports. Is that

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correct?

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Maybe you could uh give us a little bit

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of your what you might bring as insights

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from your background for transportation.

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>> Uh well, as far as aviation goes, uh

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» Uh well, as far as aviation goes, uh

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just like uh the electric cars that are

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coming, uh you know, there's going to be

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electric aircraft.

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Uh there's already

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uh one V tall single person aircraft you

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can buy for $100,000 that has 20

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minutes. So you'd be able to take off

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and you know whip over to to Bayfield

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from from the island. Uh and there's

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more of this coming.

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» Uh thank you. I just note that I I I saw

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an article this week on small uh

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hydrooil electric fairies because

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they're hydrooil. They are much more

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efficient and carry much smaller battery

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and fry around, you know, between 10 and

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20 people might be ideal for Schwaming

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Bay in the future. So there a lot of

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things could change in the next 20 years

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technologically with regard to utilities

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and transportation and uh that's where

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we'll be be looking. So next is housing

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and that's Brad's element but he's not

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here. So Gary, you have uh land use and

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economic development. Where do we stand

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with that?

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>> Yeah, I just a more of a comment than in

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» Yeah, I just a more of a comment than in

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depth because there's more background to

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find out. But in our last plan on

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economic development, it said we would

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develop and maintain a strong economy,

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supports residents and the community

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with services and so on.

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down below it talks about the fastest

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growing industry 10 years ago or so was

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in Ashen County was tourism.

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Um

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that will have to define where we're

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really going now. Is tourism our fastest

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growing industry

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and then how do we maintain a strong

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economy for the residents if that's it.

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Um so that's just a a thought that I

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had. The other one that I um in land use

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projections

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back in the last plan it said based on

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the growth in the county um more than

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85% of the growth will occur in

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unincorporated areas of the county. And

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I'd like to look at that sometime a

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little deeper because what I'm seeing in

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the southern part of the county is every

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home that's up for sale, there's a 50%

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chance that those homes are being bought

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up by somebody from outside the county

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who does not live here. Um I can take

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you down roads here where 10 homes and

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nine of them are not lived in year

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round. we wonder why we have a housing

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shortage or uh employers say, "Hey, we

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need employees employees need housing."

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So that's a just a short look at it, but

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that's something we're going to have to

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be concerned about is uh if we want

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development and we want people, are we

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going for tourism, which I'm not saying

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we aren't, but how do we maintain who we

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have here and support schools,

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industries, and things if most of our

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housing is being bought up by somebody

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that doesn't live here year round? So,

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like I say, there's a lot more to that

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down the road to come, but those are

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just some of the points I see that we

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need to discuss.

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Any uh observations or comments on uh

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the economic development element?

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Um

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see, I think we pretty much covered the

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bases. We do have a risk and

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opportunities element, but we're

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probably a little bit too soon to be

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getting to that. And then there'll be an

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implementation element. We're probably a

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little bit early on the um calendar for

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that as well. So, if there's no

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objection, I think I'll move on to the

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next uh agenda item, which is um let's

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stand or reconsider or amend a

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previously approved public participation

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plan. So,

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at our last meeting, we approved a

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public participation plan uh with the

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understanding that anybody who voted in

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favor could bring a motion to reconsider

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and if there was a second and a vote in

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favor of reconsidering could be

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reconsidered. Now, this is on the public

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on the county board agenda for approval

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tomorrow.

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So to rewrite it, it'd be tricky. But if

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we really wanted to, we could amend it

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and then the amendment would be an

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add-on to what's being approved by the

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county board tomorrow hopefully because

550
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,240
we need it to be approval to be

551
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,919
completed.

552
00:20:41,919 --> 00:20:44,480
My personal preference would be let it

553
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640
stand and if we need to amend it at a

554
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,600
future date, we could do so. But open

555
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,679
for discussion.

556
00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:54,080
Anybody?

557
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,630
>> Sean,

558
00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:54,640
» Sean,

559
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,430
>> I guess I I'm I'm in the process of

560
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:57,440
» I guess I I'm I'm in the process of

561
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,760
outlining and then attempting to flesh

562
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720
out two additional elements. Um,

563
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,600
community health and sustainability.

564
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,440
And I just want to make sure this would

565
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240
allow to have those entered if we if

566
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,240
after review of these sections, this

567
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,240
body felt them appropriate. And and I

568
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,679
know that it's got some specific

569
00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:19,440
elements listed. Does it would that be

570
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,600
exclusionary to any additional ones or

571
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,200
not?

572
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,590
>> Uh, no. I don't think my interpretation

573
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:25,600
» Uh, no. I don't think my interpretation

574
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,440
would be no exclusion, but I think that

575
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,760
falls into the discussion about scope of

576
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,640
work.

577
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,190
>> Okay?

578
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:31,200
» Okay?

579
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,190
>> Because this is this is about how we

580
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:33,200
» Because this is this is about how we

581
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,360
engage the public to be able to comment

582
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:36,640
and participate,

583
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:36,950
>> right?

584
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:36,960
» right?

585
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,430
>> And if we add work to the process, they

586
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:39,440
» And if we add work to the process, they

587
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,440
can easily participate and comment on

588
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,039
that as well. But this is what we know

589
00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:45,760
as our baseline because we haven't added

590
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,480
any elements as of this point in time.

591
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,280
Mary Erica,

592
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,549
>> just one thing that I wanted to um point

593
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:54,559
» just one thing that I wanted to um point

594
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:58,159
out here and is in the email that I sent

595
00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:01,760
all of you with notes is that there's a

596
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,080
lot that is in here that is sort of

597
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,600
extra that I assume we will never use

598
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,840
and I feel like it would be a clearer

599
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,960
document if we cut some of it. Um

600
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,240
there are also like there's there are no

601
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,840
activities assigned to any single person

602
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,039
or to any group. And so this is

603
00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,480
something I would really like to have

604
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,960
some kind of open conversation with. I

605
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,640
would think in a meeting with at least

606
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Lisa and probably all of us because

607
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,080
these are big things. Um

608
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,120
so like as just a general document sure

609
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,919
it's fine but there's like there's also

610
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:46,080
still inconsistent language across

611
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,440
documents. So one the scope of work

612
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,880
calls something a digital public survey

613
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,799
whereas we just call it a survey and it

614
00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:59,039
doesn't tell the mechanism. It doesn't

615
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:00,640
sort of say anything. So there's just

616
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,559
there's a lot of like different terms

617
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,799
used across the two documents and yet

618
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:06,480
there's they're referring to each other

619
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,440
sort of constantly. So that that was the

620
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,720
those were the things I was trying to

621
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,559
point out. I'm not trying to halt this.

622
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:16,880
In fact, you know, we we need to get it

623
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,000
done. Um but

624
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,120
just wanted to offer that up.

625
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,960
Other comments I'd like to ask uh Emily

626
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,000
you're there or Autumn about the digital

627
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,159
public survey. Is that a capacity that's

628
00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:35,679
offered by Northwest Regional Planning?

629
00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:38,480
Yeah, within the

630
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,919
uh current cost the 75,000

631
00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:45,440
would be the opportunity to do a digital

632
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000
survey with Northwest Regional Planning

633
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,840
assisting the committee with developing

634
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,600
questions

635
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,440
um creating usually we create a QR code

636
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760
and then it would be the county or

637
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,640
committee's responsibility to

638
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,320
um distribute the survey information

639
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,360
whether that's social media, newspapers

640
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,200
on county website to get that

641
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,760
information about the survey opportunity

642
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,840
out to the public. And then once those

643
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,279
um surveys are completed, Northwest

644
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,880
Regional Planning would do a summary

645
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,080
report of all of the um answers within

646
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,799
the survey and that would be within the

647
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:35,360
current constructs of the cost.

648
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,029
>> Uh thank you. Other comment on a

649
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:37,039
» Uh thank you. Other comment on a

650
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:41,200
question, Pat? Well, what Erica said, I

651
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760
I've got some of the same questions,

652
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,240
thoughts, concerns. One is it seems

653
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,120
ambitious, which is fine, but then the

654
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,640
question of who's going to do what and

655
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,480
when, and that isn't in there. So, for

656
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,159
example, I've got the egg section, but

657
00:24:56,159 --> 00:24:57,840
I've had three meetings with Alyssa.

658
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,760
We're going to have a good nine or more

659
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,919
with farmland preservation, and that's

660
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:03,919
all outside of whatever the comp plan

661
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,520
says we're going to do. Then I have the

662
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,000
forestry. So, I'm thinking about all

663
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720
these meetings just for the comp plan

664
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,320
update in those sections, let alone

665
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,720
everything else. Um, it's not clear to

666
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,840
me what I have to do, when I'm going to

667
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,360
have to do it, where I'm going to have

668
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,919
to do it. And that's partly penciling

669
00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:26,880
in, you know, this update around

670
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760
everything else in life. And then I, you

671
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760
know, I've mentioned this before, next

672
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,559
April, there's an election and the comp

673
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,080
plan doesn't need to be done until the

674
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,640
end of 2026.

675
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,480
All things being equal, it' be a nice if

676
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,799
the group of us that are active now, you

677
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,039
know, largely have it what we need to do

678
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,000
done by April. But if we don't, it

679
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,440
should be really clear to whoever picks

680
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,840
it up, if anybody's not here after

681
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,400
April, that they know what they would be

682
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,279
getting into if they take it on. So

683
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,320
there's there's no clarity on that yet.

684
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,000
I'd like to get to it when we get a

685
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,960
chance. Other other discussion, Erica,

686
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,990
>> just to make things really clear. So in

687
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:10,000
» just to make things really clear. So in

688
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,559
the public participation plan, there's

689
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:14,960
something called summaries.

690
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,799
Whereas in the public participation

691
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:20,080
plan, there's the word summaries being

692
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,039
used, summaries of meetings that are

693
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,120
transcribed. I believe in in Ashlin

694
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,159
County we call those minutes. So I mean

695
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:29,679
some of these things are really easy to

696
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:31,840
change just to make them consistent so

697
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,480
that we're referring to actual documents

698
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,840
that are recorded um that we don't so we

699
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,840
don't need to do additional summaries,

700
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,799
right? Um, also listed under its own um,

701
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,000
bolded subheading is community display

702
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,600
and exhibit. That is separate from our

703
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,640
open house, our all of our other

704
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,720
meetings, sort of everything else. At

705
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,559
least to my knowledge, we haven't talked

706
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,039
about a community display and exhibit. I

707
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,760
don't know if Lisa is thinking about an

708
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
extra community display and exhibit. And

709
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:08,159
if we're not, why don't we just delete

710
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:09,679
that part? like if we're not going to do

711
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:11,760
it, if nobody's going to pick that up,

712
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,559
wouldn't that just be a super easy fix?

713
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,360
Um

714
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:21,120
there's also, let's see, an email

715
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,760
mailing list that someone should be

716
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,000
overseeing, collecting emails, and then

717
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,960
sending out updates to things. Do we

718
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,640
have anyone in mind for who's going to

719
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,679
do that? Uh if not, I think we could

720
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:40,880
take that out too. Um I think if it's

721
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,640
more the subcommittees are creating

722
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,520
their own sort of groups of people, then

723
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,679
maybe that doesn't need to be in here.

724
00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:51,039
And then there's also a newsletter.

725
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,399
Someone is going to create a newsletter

726
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:59,840
uh periodically and pass that out. Um,

727
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,919
there's also quite a few things listed

728
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:03,520
here that need to be on the website that

729
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,799
are not on the website yet. So, like a

730
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,200
lot of it is not I I don't feel like

731
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,600
it's sort of debatable. Like I don't I

732
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,120
don't know like if we're not intending

733
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,520
to do it, it would be it would be a more

734
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,440
concise document. It would be easier to

735
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,799
read and things would actually reference

736
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:24,960
across multiple documents.

737
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Lisa,

738
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,950
>> thank you. Um, yeah, I know when we were

739
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:30,960
» thank you. Um, yeah, I know when we were

740
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,279
when Erica and I met and we talked about

741
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,880
this, it was almost like we should not

742
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,200
um quote pass this yet until we met in

743
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360
August with regional planning to find

744
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,200
out like what exactly they're doing and

745
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,679
what we were doing. So, thanks for

746
00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:51,520
mentioning my name a hundred times, but

747
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,679
I don't have the capacity to do that in

748
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:55,520
the next year. you know, I can do a few

749
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,399
things. Um, but I can't be the keeper of

750
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:01,440
the outreach for the county's plan. Um,

751
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,320
I'm not sure what is in the um contract.

752
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,559
You know, um, Emily mentioned maybe

753
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,360
$20,000 for a survey. I don't know if

754
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,679
that's already in the scope of work as a

755
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:16,159
contract item or if that's an additional

756
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:19,760
thing. So it seemed like before we

757
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,240
passed this and you could pass this and

758
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,799
say this is our first attempt but it's

759
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,559
an organic process and we know things

760
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,480
will change and then go back to the

761
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,799
board and say we want to do some changes

762
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,799
or I think we're meeting with regional

763
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,200
planning in August for the first time

764
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,520
you know get more information then about

765
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,120
what is theirs and then what is our real

766
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,039
goal our real are we going the Cadillac

767
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,799
template outreach That's this or are we

768
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,159
doing the Chevy or the bicycle

769
00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:55,840
and then figure out who could do what

770
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,750
>> or the electric airplane ready to go?

771
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:59,760
» or the electric airplane ready to go?

772
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,789
>> I would just are do

773
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:02,799
» I would just are do

774
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,360
are you both kind of suggesting that

775
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,039
this might be a little premature

776
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,039
approving this till until we meet in

777
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,919
August and if so is there any rush

778
00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:14,240
George that we couldn't take this off

779
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240
the agenda for this month? It's my

780
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,840
understanding we're required to have it

781
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,520
now when the contract goes into place.

782
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
The contract has not yet been put in

783
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,120
place. The next thing on the agenda is

784
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600
to talk about the scope of work. Uh

785
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,600
point out to of the things that I find

786
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,240
in this the state law says, you know,

787
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440
shall adopt written procedures designed

788
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,360
to foster public participation. That's

789
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,960
the requirement. She'll adopt written

790
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,960
procedures designed to foster written

791
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,120
participation.

792
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,880
There'll be open discussion,

793
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880
communication programs, information

794
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,960
services, public meetings, and with

795
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,279
advanced notice and opportunity for

796
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:50,799
written comments. That's all that's

797
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:52,320
required.

798
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,080
So, I see this as documentation

799
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,360
of a smorgus board of options for the

800
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440
committee and future committee if it's

801
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,919
different than us next year to be

802
00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:05,360
working with. And if we leave things

803
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,120
out, they won't be there on this

804
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,640
mortgage board table for people to

805
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,799
choose from. I'll point out that most of

806
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,320
these are open house and openhouse.

807
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,000
Okay, one open house is actually

808
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,559
required by law. But when you come to

809
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:22,240
some of these other items, it's

810
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,909
uh see where

811
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:30,960
it's a may. So, community play may be

812
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,960
used. Doesn't say it will be used. It

813
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,640
says it may be used. Is there as an

814
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,159
option?

815
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:39,760
um a newsletter may be prepared. So, I

816
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,600
see no point in deleting these items

817
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,200
because they're reminders of something

818
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,960
that we could do and we might decide to

819
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,200
do later in the process. Um the last

820
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,399
thing I'll say is that um personally I

821
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:53,919
support leaving this alone and letting

822
00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:55,600
the county board approve it tomorrow,

823
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,799
but it's up to the committee. Um, this

824
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,279
has already been approved. So, would

825
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,720
take a a motion and a vote to reconsider

826
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,760
and to open reopen discussion and then

827
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,159
revise it at this meeting or at a future

828
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,240
meeting. But, if we delay to the future

829
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,480
meeting, then it won't be in place for

830
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,559
the satisfaction of the contract and the

831
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:20,640
grant requirements. So, it's um it's up

832
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,880
to the committee. But, uh, Charlie, you

833
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,679
have the floor.

834
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:26,230
>> That Thank you. That clarifies things

835
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:26,240
» That Thank you. That clarifies things

836
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760
for me. Um, and I support approving this

837
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,200
now. Um, and then I suspect when we meet

838
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,039
in August, then we'll be able to decide

839
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,519
which of these options are our best ones

840
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,000
to use should we choose. I'm glad

841
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240
they're not mandatory. You said there

842
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,720
was three mandatory things, I think. So,

843
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,600
thank you.

844
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,509
>> Just want to point out there's there's

845
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:47,519
» Just want to point out there's there's

846
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,399
nothing to be done now if nobody brings

847
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:52,799
a motion to reconsider. was just

848
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:54,559
discussion and we move on because it's

849
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:57,039
already been an approved document and

850
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:58,320
it's already on the agenda for the

851
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,760
county board for tomorrow. But we do

852
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,600
have the option of bringing it up for

853
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,360
reconsideration if someone wants to do

854
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,720
so.

855
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,149
>> Right. Pat.

856
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:06,159
» Right. Pat.

857
00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:08,070
>> So at the board meeting tomorrow, if the

858
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:08,080
» So at the board meeting tomorrow, if the

859
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880
board as a whole wants to modify this

860
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,720
document and approve the modified

861
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,279
version, I would assume that that is

862
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,120
then the document that this committee

863
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,240
would be working with.

864
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,070
>> Yes. Totally within their empowerment.

865
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:20,080
» Yes. Totally within their empowerment.

866
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:27,269
Yeah. So if Erica and Lisa

867
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,279
had one or more things that they say,

868
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,200
you know, this really really should be

869
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,640
changed and they sent it to the board

870
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,880
prior to the meeting tomorrow, the board

871
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,880
consider could consider making the

872
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,559
changes in. Some of it's just language

873
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:43,600
for consistency of language so it's

874
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,360
clear that it's the same thing and not

875
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440
different things.

876
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,399
Um, you know, but it's a long list of

877
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:52,240
stuff to do and then, you know,

878
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,519
ultimately you got to rouse it with

879
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:54,559
who's going to do it. And I've heard

880
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,440
multiple people say, "I'm busy enough.

881
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,399
Don't put that on my plate." And I know

882
00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:03,600
how busy my plate is just with the comp

883
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,320
plan stuff, let alone everything else.

884
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,589
So,

885
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,760
and then we talk about how often does

886
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,280
anybody look at the comp plan. You know,

887
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,879
we hear those comments all the time. And

888
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:16,399
for those of us on the board, we know

889
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:19,440
how often the comp plan is referred to,

890
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,320
like not often, you know, it's rarely

891
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,520
referred to. So, in many ways, if we had

892
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,440
a shorter, more focused list, I I think

893
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,280
being realistic,

894
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,040
that would be helpful. But I think it

895
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,560
would be good to get input. I mean, just

896
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,079
in terms of process, because you don't

897
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:37,679
want to modify this today and then amend

898
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,200
the agenda with here's a new one. Not

899
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,520
that we couldn't. We certainly could,

900
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,440
but we could also agree on a list of

901
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919
changes today and then if someone on

902
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:47,440
this committee that's on the board then

903
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,359
wants to make that motion tomorrow and

904
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:51,280
and bring it forward, the board could

905
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,240
consider that as a whole.

906
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,389
>> Further discussion,

907
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:56,399
» Further discussion,

908
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,870
>> Lissa? I mean, one of the amendments

909
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:58,880
» Lissa? I mean, one of the amendments

910
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,480
could be that um a sentence or so near

911
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,800
the beginning that says these are proven

912
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
successful outreach strategies that can

913
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160
help reach more people, blah blah blah.

914
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,270
Um

915
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,760
we will work on them or accomplish them

916
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,079
as staff and resources are available.

917
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,839
I mean, I don't I just don't want

918
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:25,839
somebody in the public to get a hold of

919
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:29,520
the public participation plan and say,

920
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,160
"You didn't do an email list and you

921
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,800
didn't do a display or I didn't hear

922
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,800
anything about it. What's your plan?"

923
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,160
And then you say, "Well, here's our

924
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,760
plan." And they say, "Well, who's doing

925
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,520
your website?" And we said, "Well, we

926
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,680
don't know. That was just our idea.

927
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,599
We'll figure that out." I just don't

928
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:48,160
want to have create that vulnerability

929
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,640
of setting up because this is a this is

930
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,640
a Cadillac plan. I mean, it doesn't have

931
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,320
social media on it, but I was going to

932
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,720
do that anyway just because I do social

933
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:01,119
media, but I'd hate for it to be like

934
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,079
here's how we intend to engage people,

935
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,000
but then we come back, somebody says,

936
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,800
well, you didn't talk to seniors. and we

937
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,320
come back and say, "Well, these were

938
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,359
maze or maybe if we had a person." So,

939
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:18,000
if we added a disclaimer,

940
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680
maybe it's a little bit of a bumper

941
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,760
as an amendment because you did ask us

942
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,520
if we had things that we wanted to be

943
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,599
reconsidered or amended. Does that make

944
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,359
sense? What do you think? What if

945
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:30,720
somebody came to you and said, "I saw

946
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,800
your public participation plan. Where's

947
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,119
this newsletter?" And you know,

948
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,390
>> I'd ask them if they didn't know what

949
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:36,400
» I'd ask them if they didn't know what

950
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,280
the word may meant. I mean, we still

951
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,200
have to decide of of what those we're

952
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,880
going to use. And I think that's so we

953
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,800
leave those options there and then in

954
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,520
August we we rewrite it and say these

955
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,359
are the ones we're going to use. And

956
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,280
then if they don't find those, they have

957
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,320
a beef with us. But if they don't find

958
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,320
us using something that we said we might

959
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,000
use but didn't, then they don't have

960
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640
really a grounds for a complaint. But I

961
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,040
see where that could possibly happen,

962
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520
but I think that going to jam us up more

963
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,079
than it would help us at this phase.

964
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,470
>> Can is there um would you have a issue

965
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:12,480
» Can is there um would you have a issue

966
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,240
with adding some language that says

967
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,760
this is our first great plan depending

968
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,200
on resources and staffing. I

969
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,190
>> I look at this now that we're looking at

970
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:25,200
» I look at this now that we're looking at

971
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,240
this Cadillac option plan to determine

972
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,800
what part of it we want to use. Can we

973
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,040
decide that today?

974
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,829
>> Uh, not my daily wick, but if George

975
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:35,839
» Uh, not my daily wick, but if George

976
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,960
says we can, is it adopted?

977
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,910
>> Yeah, let me let me chime in here. Um, I

978
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:41,920
» Yeah, let me let me chime in here. Um, I

979
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,960
think it' be more expeditious for us to

980
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,440
amend this at a future meeting if we

981
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,839
wish to. There's nothing says that we

982
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:51,839
have to do all these things. I view this

983
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:57,040
more as a checklist and a a keeping us

984
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,960
on plan. sort of a checklist of things

985
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,040
we can and will be doing during the

986
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,480
course of the year. We might do some and

987
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,680
we might not do others. So just because

988
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,320
it's a plan doesn't mean that

989
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,920
everything's going to be done as long as

990
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,720
we meet the legal requirement

991
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,599
which is pretty open. The legal

992
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,520
requirement is just to have some public

993
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,760
participation and open discussion and

994
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,200
communication programs. It doesn't it

995
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,880
doesn't say that we have to do all these

996
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,880
things. So if we don't do them, we're

997
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,400
not in any kind of detriment. We just

998
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,960
But we m we've got our ideas down on

999
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,720
paper of things that we should can be

1000
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,520
doing and we have a timeline which is

1001
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,599
maybe tells us whether we're behind or

1002
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:43,280
ahead of schedule. So I see personally I

1003
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,359
see no problem with this.

1004
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:47,910
>> Yeah. So, we get to August, which isn't

1005
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:47,920
» Yeah. So, we get to August, which isn't

1006
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960
very far away, and we we need to pencil

1007
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,079
in who's doing what and when, you know,

1008
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:55,680
for each of the components of the comp

1009
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,440
plan, but also all of these other issues

1010
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,599
that we're talking about, when we get to

1011
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,920
August,

1012
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,760
could we at least have an understanding

1013
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,520
that some of these items, the email

1014
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,839
list, the website, etc., if we don't

1015
00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:10,400
have a volunteer or someone penciled in

1016
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,960
that we reduce that list and update this

1017
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,280
document because if we hit August, which

1018
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,640
is when we're supposed to hit the ground

1019
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,119
running on updating the comp plan, if we

1020
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,320
don't have people penciled in, then we

1021
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,920
should shorten that list in this

1022
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,240
documents. I agree with what Lisa said.

1023
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,800
I've read things like that and you know,

1024
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,240
it creates the impression that there's

1025
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,680
going to be a bunch of stuff going on.

1026
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,160
And yes, the word may is in there, but

1027
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,160
you know, you can only not do so many

1028
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,079
things that you say we may do this, we

1029
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:41,280
may do that without leaving a sour taste

1030
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,359
with the public. I would rather have a

1031
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:44,880
shorter list that we're committed to and

1032
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,280
have the people and the resources to do

1033
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,839
and then do that, you know, pencil it in

1034
00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:51,920
and be committed to that. But we had

1035
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160
August. We need to pencil names and

1036
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,320
dates and commitments in. So, I'm okay

1037
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,240
with leaving it to August, but if we

1038
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,520
don't have names in August, then I think

1039
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,440
We have no choice but to shorten the

1040
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,880
list.

1041
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,150
>> I guess I see we got to we can't really

1042
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:08,160
» I guess I see we got to we can't really

1043
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,760
make those are good things to keep in

1044
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
the back of their head till we actually

1045
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,480
have the meeting with NWRPC.

1046
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,160
That's what we're waiting on, right? See

1047
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,720
what exactly the the disposition of

1048
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,960
duties is going to be. So to try to

1049
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,839
pencil stuff in now,

1050
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:26,880
it might not be just go out the window

1051
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,119
when we actually have the the meetings.

1052
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:33,359
So Well, is Emily on the call right now?

1053
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:40,470
>> Emily, you want to chime in?

1054
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,280
» Emily will be coming back in just a

1055
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,839
second here. She'll be able to hop on

1056
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:51,359
and give some answers. But um I guess

1057
00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:54,960
our situation that we're in right now is

1058
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,800
we're not technically under contract um

1059
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,640
yet to be coming to like attending

1060
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,119
meetings in person and things like that.

1061
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,040
We don't have a contract set in stone

1062
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,640
right now. Um so that would be something

1063
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,040
that we could talk about once that scope

1064
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,359
of work gets approved and um the

1065
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:17,920
contract is approved. Um public

1066
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,880
participation plans are important to

1067
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,880
have that prior to doing any work on a

1068
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,160
comp plan. Um it is statutoily required

1069
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,160
before um any work to a comp plan is

1070
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,800
done that that public participation plan

1071
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,280
is approved. So that would kind of be

1072
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,800
your first step on anything would be to

1073
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,880
get the public participation plan nailed

1074
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,560
down and approved by the county board.

1075
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,829
>> Thank you.

1076
00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:52,640
» And I am back now. This is Emily.

1077
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,670
>> Go ahead, Emily.

1078
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:53,680
» Go ahead, Emily.

1079
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,750
>> So we would have um just a ma like a

1080
00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:57,760
» So we would have um just a ma like a

1081
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,240
general outline. Northwest Regional

1082
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,560
Planning's responsibilities

1083
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,200
would be to make sure that all of the

1084
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,280
statutory requirements are met for the

1085
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,680
comp plan update. So that would include

1086
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680
the adoption of the public participation

1087
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,319
plan by the county board before we start

1088
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:16,400
any sort of planning committee meetings

1089
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,319
that are facilitated.

1090
00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:21,440
We'd also make sure that the draft plan

1091
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,760
is properly distributed

1092
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,640
to all of the required entities. So that

1093
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,200
would be neighboring jurisdictions

1094
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,520
and then we help prepare the materials,

1095
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,880
the draft plan for county board

1096
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,680
adoption. We'll be the ones responsible

1097
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,960
for updating the tables, charts, maps,

1098
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,079
any narrative content that's affected by

1099
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,800
any new data. We would draft updated

1100
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,599
narrative content and revise the plan

1101
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,800
chapters for review by this committee.

1102
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,520
And then for actual facilitated

1103
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,000
meetings, the current scope of work

1104
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,160
includes eight meetings of this

1105
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,960
committee as well as one facilitated

1106
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,119
public open house. So that's different

1107
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,680
than the required public hearing that's

1108
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,520
a part of statute. The open house would

1109
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,920
be on the preliminary draft

1110
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,240
comprehensive plan before it moves into

1111
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,359
the formal um adoption process to get

1112
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:18,880
some input from the public on a

1113
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,240
preliminary draft.

1114
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:23,920
And then we would also provide digital

1115
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,240
copies of the draft and final plan in

1116
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,359
both Microsoft Word and PDF formats. We

1117
00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:32,880
do the the mapping and develop the

1118
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,440
updated existing land use and the future

1119
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,839
land use maps.

1120
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:39,760
We would support the county in the

1121
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,480
preparation of the public hearing.

1122
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,720
That's the statutory requirement that is

1123
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,280
the with the 30-day notice of the final

1124
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,920
draft plan. And we would also assist

1125
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,720
with the uh information you need for

1126
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,800
plan final plan adoption by the county

1127
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,800
board.

1128
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,200
And then the current scope of work also

1129
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,520
includes the assistance with a digital

1130
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,839
public opinion survey. And then we would

1131
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:07,200
have the summary analysis for that as

1132
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,680
well as um any hardcolor copy printing

1133
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,359
of the final plan that the county might

1134
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:15,119
want to have that would be at an

1135
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,480
additional cost. So for Russ County, for

1136
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,720
this planning committee, the main things

1137
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,800
would be to review and provide timely

1138
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,359
feedback on all the draft materials that

1139
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:28,400
we provide

1140
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,240
that the county board adopts the public

1141
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:33,200
participation plan according to

1142
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,079
comprehensive planning law requirements.

1143
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:37,599
You would be the responsible for

1144
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,000
conducting and coordinating any of the

1145
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
additional public outreach engagement

1146
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,520
activities. So that sounds like what

1147
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,880
you're talking about right now within

1148
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
this public participation plan that's

1149
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,800
above and beyond the statutory

1150
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,720
requirements. And this public

1151
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,440
participation plan is um based on one

1152
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,960
that another county that we worked with

1153
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,079
um did. So these are things like that

1154
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:03,520
another county um had as their

1155
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,200
priorities and maybe those priorities

1156
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,520
are different in Ashlin County. So, I

1157
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,280
heard you talking about the community

1158
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,319
display, and what that county did was

1159
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:16,480
had a display with some of the

1160
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,200
survey results as well as some of the

1161
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,200
background information, population, and

1162
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,359
housing data, and they had that

1163
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:26,079
displayed at the entrance to their

1164
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:30,069
government center.

1165
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:33,119
And then we'd also assist with uh

1166
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,520
organizing the public hearing for plan

1167
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
adoption as well as approval of the

1168
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,480
final plan and related ordinance with

1169
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,960
the county board. And I see one hand up.

1170
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,710
>> Yeah, this Emily and Autumn, this is

1171
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:46,720
» Yeah, this Emily and Autumn, this is

1172
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,119
Gary Merdict. I have a question. You uh

1173
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,960
Autumn, I think you said you didn't have

1174
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,160
the contract. I got an email over 10

1175
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,240
days ago saying that that contract had

1176
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:59,520
been approved. Is it something that

1177
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,950
>> you haven't uh

1178
00:46:00,950 --> 00:46:00,960
» you haven't uh

1179
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,870
>> the contract with for the grant has been

1180
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:04,880
» the contract with for the grant has been

1181
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,920
approved? So the state and the county.

1182
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,230
>> Okay.

1183
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:08,240
» Okay.

1184
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,630
>> So now that that has been approved, we

1185
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:10,640
» So now that that has been approved, we

1186
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,960
can and I today you also have

1187
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,349
>> um the scope of work on your agenda at

1188
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:17,359
» um the scope of work on your agenda at

1189
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:20,160
the this committee level. Then we can

1190
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,119
look at the contract between Northwest

1191
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,440
Regional Planning and the county for

1192
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,119
this plan update.

1193
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:28,069
>> Okay. Thank you.

1194
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:28,079
» Okay. Thank you.

1195
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,710
>> Contract was specific to the grant.

1196
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:30,720
» Contract was specific to the grant.

1197
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,470
>> Okay. Thank you very much.

1198
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:32,480
» Okay. Thank you very much.

1199
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,950
>> Yes.

1200
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:34,960
» Yes.

1201
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,470
>> Any further discussion? Uh see Eric, did

1202
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:38,480
» Any further discussion? Uh see Eric, did

1203
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,480
you have Okay, Charlie, go ahead.

1204
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,589
>> Okay. Sorry. I I don't want staff to

1205
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:43,599
» Okay. Sorry. I I don't want staff to

1206
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,560
think that I don't support them 100%.

1207
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,240
Perhaps a a uh

1208
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,720
an amendment stating

1209
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:56,240
uh that the uh points in this plan are

1210
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,079
subject to change uh may may change

1211
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:04,230
based on the August meeting.

1212
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,079
Would would something like that give you

1213
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,839
comfort?

1214
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:09,349
>> Other discussion, Lisa?

1215
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:09,359
» Other discussion, Lisa?

1216
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:10,950
>> Something like that gives me more

1217
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:10,960
» Something like that gives me more

1218
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,760
comfort because it reduces expectation

1219
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,400
levels. Um maybe there should be a

1220
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,000
statement in the beginning that says

1221
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,800
this is what's required by the statute.

1222
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,200
What follows is a checklist of ideas

1223
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,160
that we may pursue. Make sure everyone

1224
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,480
in the county gets the news as staff and

1225
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,839
resources allow

1226
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,520
because there's a difference to me

1227
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,920
between like a wish list and an action

1228
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,800
plan. you know, an action plan. I am

1229
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,839
saying I'm doing this and then um

1230
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:43,680
whether that's a Chevy or a Cadillac

1231
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,520
plan, maybe it's two things, maybe it's

1232
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,599
20 things, but it's a plan of action

1233
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,520
that I'm going to do a a guideline or a

1234
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,359
checklist to me is is a little bit

1235
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:55,520
different. Whereas the idea that we're

1236
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,599
calling this participation plan to me

1237
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,000
sets up expectations and I'm not sure

1238
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,160
that a lot of people will read it at

1239
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,560
all. Um but the word and and whether

1240
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,400
they zone in on the word may

1241
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,560
um you know that's a separate question

1242
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,800
but if if we're clear about what the

1243
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,839
expectation is to do this work or just

1244
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,520
say these are our great suggestions.

1245
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,040
We're going to try and get to it. You

1246
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,079
know nice statement like that. This is

1247
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,079
what's required that will get done.

1248
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:28,720
We've hired a contractor to help us. If

1249
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,359
I may, uh, if you look at the second

1250
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:34,480
page of the public participation plan,

1251
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,520
uh, paragraph two, it says, um, we'll

1252
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,559
use due diligence to ensure the spirit

1253
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,960
and intent of this public participation

1254
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,400
plan is upheld. The spirit and intent.

1255
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,160
However, it should be expected that

1256
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,760
deviations from this plan may be

1257
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,559
warranted. It's right in there.

1258
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:54,630
>> Okay. I didn't read that part. Did you

1259
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:54,640
» Okay. I didn't read that part. Did you

1260
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,160
do you agree with that then, Charlie?

1261
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,640
I'm

1262
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,390
>> because that's what you're getting at as

1263
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:58,400
» because that's what you're getting at as

1264
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,200
well, right?

1265
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,150
>> Yeah. I I think we're all getting a

1266
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:02,160
» Yeah. I I think we're all getting a

1267
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,359
little wrapped up with what may or may

1268
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,359
not be a final and that's not going to

1269
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:09,920
happen till we meet with NWRPC. Then

1270
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,680
then then

1271
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,520
we got to make sure that we're dotting

1272
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,359
and crossing

1273
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:18,079
te's and eyes that we can do before we

1274
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,880
say yes. So these are all just may now

1275
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,200
in preparation for that meeting. And so

1276
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,910
I'm comfortable with it the way it is.

1277
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,880
So if I go to page two of the document,

1278
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,800
it's there's a section called public

1279
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,960
participation plan by method and then

1280
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,960
there's a paragraph or two, then there's

1281
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,200
a bunch of bullets, but then when you

1282
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,440
get to page three of the document, now

1283
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,480
it starts with community

1284
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,559
display/exhibit. It doesn't really

1285
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,160
there's this other language in front of

1286
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,880
that. And what I'm wondering is before

1287
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,280
the community display/exhibit

1288
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,079
if we could add a sentence that says

1289
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,960
Ashlin County is considering some or all

1290
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,240
of the following for public

1291
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,000
participation.

1292
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,079
Then that very clearly in one standalone

1293
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:11,280
sentence is says considering some or all

1294
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,240
of the following. It's by no way

1295
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,119
promising and it doesn't say may which

1296
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:21,680
can be interpreted various ways.

1297
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,760
So, for simplicity sake, if this

1298
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,440
committee agreed on inserting that

1299
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,359
sentence above the community

1300
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:29,359
display/exhibit as a standalone

1301
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:30,880
sentence, then tomorrow at the board

1302
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680
meeting, a board member could make a

1303
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,160
motion to change the public

1304
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,079
participation plan by adding that

1305
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:39,599
sentence there and it would save you all

1306
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,599
of this. You know,

1307
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:46,470
>> Ashlin County is considering some or all

1308
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:46,480
» Ashlin County is considering some or all

1309
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,160
of the following for public

1310
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,349
participation.

1311
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:54,000
Yeah. So, thanks that I think I would go

1312
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,440
along with that. That's what I've been

1313
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,440
trying to say is like let's cert some

1314
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,079
clarifying language so that we don't set

1315
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,240
unrealistic expectations.

1316
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,910
>> And then in August, we have to be

1317
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:03,920
» And then in August, we have to be

1318
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,480
prepared. If somebody wants a certain

1319
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,040
thing in there like email or website, we

1320
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,680
need to pencil somebody in

1321
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,880
or take it off the list.

1322
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,670
>> Y

1323
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:13,680
» Y

1324
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,670
>> yeah, we're we're likely to be resource

1325
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:15,680
» yeah, we're we're likely to be resource

1326
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,599
thin. So, um I think we could take that

1327
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:21,280
as amendment today and then it would be

1328
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,359
in the the presentation tomorrow to the

1329
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:25,440
county board if we amended it today.

1330
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,589
>> I'll make move to make that amendment.

1331
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:27,599
» I'll make move to make that amendment.

1332
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:29,750
>> Well, hang on.

1333
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:29,760
» Well, hang on.

1334
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,160
I Well, I'll second it for purpose of

1335
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,280
discussion. Now, we're going to have to

1336
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,559
vote, but I'll second it, but then I'd

1337
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:35,200
like to speak

1338
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,710
>> now. So, there's an amendment on there's

1339
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:36,720
» now. So, there's an amendment on there's

1340
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:39,760
a a motion on the floor to amend the

1341
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,599
public participation public

1342
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:43,920
participation plan as previously

1343
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,880
approved at the past meeting to say at

1344
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,440
the beginning of the listing of

1345
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,480
options for public participation on page

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three that we should have a header that

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says Ashlin County is considering some

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or all of the following for public

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participation. That would be the

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amendment as I understand it. Is that

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correct?

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>> Well, it it is. Um but logistically

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» Well, it it is. Um but logistically

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speaking, the board meeting is tomorrow.

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If we pass this today, we're changing

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the plan the board has asked to

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consider, which would mean you would

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need to send the administrator an

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updated copy of this plan today. They

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would then need to modify what's on the

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county website for the packet tomorrow.

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And for those board members who get the

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packet in print, they would need to

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print copies to give to them. If we

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agreed as a committee on this change

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today, a board member tomorrow could

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make a motion to modify the plan with

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the sentence that you just said and then

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say that the committee supported making

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this change yesterday, but we're not

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going to go through the logistics of you

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and Dan and others having to update the

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packet.

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>> So, would you like to propose? Would you

1375
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» So, would you like to propose? Would you

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be prepared to make that amendment

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tomorrow?

1378
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>> I I would as long as this committee is

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» I I would as long as this committee is

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in support of making that. Um,

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» I support.

1382
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>> So, you want to withdraw?

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» So, you want to withdraw?

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>> I'll withdraw my amend withdraw my

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» I'll withdraw my amend withdraw my

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amendment proposal and support the

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course of action that Pat submits it

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tomorrow at the board meeting.

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>> Are there any objections to the proposal

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» Are there any objections to the proposal

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by Mr. Kenny?

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Then so be it.

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>> And we move on to the next agenda item.

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the

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uh

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work

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this this would be used this is what's

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going to be used in discussion with land

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as to what the job is to be done

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so this must becomes the foundation of

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the contract

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I believe will be set up

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Um, I don't know exactly who sets it up.

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I know that, you know, Dan and Gary will

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need to sign it as it is a contract, but

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I would guess that you, George, are also

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involved.

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>> Uh, so I mean, probably it's going to

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» Uh, so I mean, probably it's going to

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take legal review. It' be my

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understanding, but I'm not sure how it

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was done last time around, so we have to

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look into that. But anyway, as I

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understand it, the scope of work

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document becomes the basis for the

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agreement with Northwest Regional

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Planning as to who's going to do what

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and how much they're going to contribute

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within the amount of funding that we

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have available to them. And I have a

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concern. Okay, I'm I'm pretty good with

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all of this that's in this document.

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um you know the plan elements will

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include at least these nine elements

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which means there could be more which

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was Charlie's problem and like in

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transportation these are we looking at

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proposed things for the future they're

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not definite commitments that you can do

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that I don't think I highlighted there's

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some other things I highlighted that

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we're looking at you know future risk

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and opportunities and we want to promote

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diverse sustainable economic case and

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that land use is proposed land uses and

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that implementation is policies,

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programs and actions to achieve plan

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goals.

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Uh so we will need in the end reasonable

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parties and strategies but my concern is

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this.

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I look at at what we have in terms of

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resources among ourselves to do work. I

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mean, some of us are professionally

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committed and have an overload of work

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probably already and the rest of us are

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essentially volunteers who receive a

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predeem for going to a meeting, but

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essentially so there's a lot to be done

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here and we're going to need a lot of

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help from Northwest Regional Planning.

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But I what I'm seeing is probably the

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need from each

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subcommittee team leader to be able to

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draw upon the advisory skills of the

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consultant.

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So, it seems to me that if Charlie's

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working intergovernmental or Pat's

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working agriculture or Gary's working on

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economic development,

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they may need the advice and guidance of

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experts at Northwest Regional Planning.

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And I strikes me that it would be

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constructive for us to establish that

1465
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you would have all subcommittee

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chairpersons would have access to

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drawing upon that expertise. And I don't

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know what other people think about this.

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Charlie, go ahead. I

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>> I think if if my

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» I think if if my

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perception of what they're doing is

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correct that they're going to be looking

1474
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at each they're going to be eyeballing

1475
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my element and then coming back and I

1476
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get to review that. So I think I feel

1477
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like I have the access to that expert

1478
00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:59,680
already and that they're going to be

1479
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applying an expert eye to my element. If

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that's wrong, they'll tell me in August,

1481
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I suppose.

1482
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>> I guess what I'm thinking of is if you

1483
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» I guess what I'm thinking of is if you

1484
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have questions, if you need help.

1485
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>> Yeah.

1486
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» Yeah.

1487
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>> You have authority. Do you have

1488
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» You have authority. Do you have

1489
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authority to call Emily or Autumn and

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00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:20,400
ask them some questions and get some

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,960
advice that right now with the farmland

1492
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preservation plan?

1493
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>> So, that's what I'd like to make more

1494
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» So, that's what I'd like to make more

1495
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,799
clear in the scope of work. And so just

1496
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what I wrote here is that the scope of

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work should include a section on

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advisory services. It doesn't spec

1499
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:39,040
explicitly say that. And I would write

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it this way. Advisory services to the

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planning committee as a whole.

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Individual committee members as leaders

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of sub subject element subcommittees.

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county administration and county board

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in addition to the work and processes as

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prescribed herein and otherwise agreed.

1507
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I'd like to make it very clear that

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there's access to advisory services for

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the people that are doing the work. I

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don't know if you think that's I don't

1511
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,799
know if you think that's necessary and

1512
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I'll be interested in Emily and Autumn's

1513
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observations. Pat, do you have a

1514
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:11,839
comment?

1515
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:13,349
>> Well, when we get to August and we start

1516
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» Well, when we get to August and we start

1517
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,839
penciling things in that ties into the

1518
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question of how do we work with each of

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these sections? So if I have the egg

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section, I need to somehow coordinate

1521
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,920
with Northwest Regional Planning on how

1522
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,960
we do that. So implicitly we have to

1523
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,440
have some access to them um to

1524
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,359
coordinate this without question. But

1525
00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:37,440
given there's a limit to the budget,

1526
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,799
there's a limit to their time and

1527
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:40,880
access. So somewhere in there if we add

1528
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,400
a sentence or a paragraph um as time and

1529
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,920
budgets allow so that we don't have say

1530
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,960
a member just asking for endless hours

1531
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,119
that then push the budget outside of the

1532
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,520
scope of what we have. So there's got to

1533
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be as time and budget allows and

1534
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,680
Northwest Regional Planning would have

1535
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to talk to individual committee members

1536
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,359
and say, "Look, you know, I can give you

1537
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:05,520
a certain amount of time, but if

1538
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,160
someone's start sucking up 40, 50, 60,

1539
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,480
80 hours, that's probably not going to

1540
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work so well."

1541
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:15,520
So my I thought about that problem and I

1542
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,119
thought that the way to deal with that

1543
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,119
is that when we do our subcommittee

1544
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:21,119
reports at each of our committee

1545
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:22,960
meetings, one of the things that the

1546
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,240
committee members would be asked to

1547
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,359
report is time

1548
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:30,000
time on calls to Northwest Regional

1549
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Planning if if at all. And that would,

1550
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,280
you know, if some if you if we had a

1551
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,880
committee meeting and you someone said,

1552
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,799
"Well, I spent 10 minutes on the phone

1553
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:41,280
with Emily and I asked a question, but

1554
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somebody else says,"Well, I was on the

1555
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,799
phone with Autumn for 3 hours." You

1556
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:46,880
know, then we can see that we're bumping

1557
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,799
up against limitations if we have a a

1558
00:59:48,799 --> 00:59:51,920
monthly reporting process. Pat,

1559
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,430
>> I think for the August meeting, it would

1560
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:53,440
» I think for the August meeting, it would

1561
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,880
be helpful if Northwest Regional

1562
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,920
Planning would tell us what they

1563
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,240
typically um have as guidelines when

1564
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,760
working with counties to update comp

1565
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,319
plants, how this process works to set up

1566
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:06,559
meetings, sharing files, back and forth,

1567
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:09,680
updates, and how much time outside of

1568
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,880
meetings is reasonable for the scope of

1569
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,960
work that they envision for what they're

1570
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contracted for.

1571
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,839
I don't see how we can do this without

1572
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:21,599
having access to them. So, I think

1573
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:25,760
that's implicit that they could tell us.

1574
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,030
>> Gary, if you're there, do you have any

1575
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:27,040
» Gary, if you're there, do you have any

1576
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,109
observations on this?

1577
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,040
» No, not in addition to what's already

1578
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,520
been said. I think uh we need Northwest

1579
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,720
Regional Planning to basically give us

1580
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:45,349
the lead and and then we'll follow

1581
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:47,440
» if it goes anything like the farm plan.

1582
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,960
They're going to come back to us with

1583
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,880
their ideas on each element and then

1584
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,440
we'll all get to ask their expert. We'll

1585
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,559
we'll input. We've had three meetings

1586
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:58,799
now with farm planning and that's what

1587
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:00,240
you've just described is what's been

1588
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happening at those meetings. We we input

1589
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,480
to them. They take notes. They tell us

1590
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,640
what they think and then we oh what

1591
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,000
about this? What about that? What about

1592
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,960
this? So and it and it's so it also

1593
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,799
triggers those they they present it in

1594
01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:16,319
such a way that gets you thinking

1595
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uh it isn't it isn't like calling them

1596
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,079
afterwards but it's definitely a long

1597
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,480
process. I say long but it's like an

1598
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,319
hour meeting where you go over that

1599
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element and you might do that element

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three times. Who knows? But I like I

1601
01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:33,280
also agree that we should be able to

1602
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160
call them if something strikes us. So I

1603
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,640
I I agree in theory with what you're

1604
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,880
saying is provided it doesn't add $10

1605
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,839
million to the bill.

1606
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>> Thank you.

1607
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» Thank you.

1608
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>> Yeah. So I I think there needs to be in

1609
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:48,480
» Yeah. So I I think there needs to be in

1610
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,640
order to get things done and to be not

1611
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,559
get tangled up with a lot of

1612
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:54,000
communication that there needs to be

1613
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,640
empowerment of the sub subcommittee

1614
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,240
chairpersons,

1615
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,240
you know, not to have to call Dan or

1616
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,200
come to come to me or, you know, just

1617
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,119
within reason be able to go directly

1618
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:06,960
with your questions to to Emily or

1619
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,599
Autumn. So Emily, do you have an

1620
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:13,920
observation on this uh chain of thought?

1621
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,000
I would say that based on

1622
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,520
experience from other counties that

1623
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,880
we've worked with that have had

1624
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,040
subcommittees for individual chapters,

1625
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,160
we have

1626
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,640
Northwest Regional Planning staff would

1627
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,720
first

1628
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,640
update the chapter

1629
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,960
with information that we have available

1630
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,720
to us. And once that draft is updated,

1631
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,880
we would share that maybe on SharePoint

1632
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,200
or whatever platform that the county

1633
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,359
prefers. Sometimes we'll even include it

1634
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:53,040
on our uh web page and those can be

1635
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,920
downloaded by the committee members and

1636
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,000
that's available to review by the

1637
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,040
committee. So typically we've had you

1638
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,240
start with uh reviewing the background

1639
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,760
information

1640
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,680
and making those revisions and then

1641
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,799
moving to the visioning and the action

1642
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:13,440
plan and implementation and doing it in

1643
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,760
that sort of sequence and sharing those

1644
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,680
documents as we go through the plan

1645
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,960
update process. So, it works, I think,

1646
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,599
best if Northwest Regional Planning does

1647
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,240
the first round of updates

1648
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,240
and um provides that first updated draft

1649
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,599
to the subcommittee for their um

1650
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:36,240
expertise and additional revisions and

1651
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,920
any additional information that they

1652
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,400
want to include in that updated chapter

1653
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,520
as a sort of a basic general

1654
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,039
update process.

1655
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,920
My question back then

1656
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,119
my question back then Emily is um are

1657
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:56,000
you talking about the background data

1658
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,910
>> or are you talking about the goals and

1659
01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:57,920
» or are you talking about the goals and

1660
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,599
visions because I'm talking about the

1661
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:00,799
goals and visions

1662
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:03,430
>> all of the above but it wouldn't occur

1663
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:03,440
» all of the above but it wouldn't occur

1664
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,000
all at once. First, we would share the

1665
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,839
background information that we have

1666
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:10,559
updated and then you can use that

1667
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,480
updated background information to help

1668
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,280
inform the update of the visioning and

1669
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,280
the actions.

1670
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,309
>> Yeah. Okay. So, we we're in a parallel

1671
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:20,319
» Yeah. Okay. So, we we're in a parallel

1672
01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:24,400
process already of trying to draw from

1673
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,559
the public and from our departments and

1674
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:28,480
committees

1675
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,480
their ideas about how what they would

1676
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,079
like this the future to look like.

1677
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:37,520
And so it occurs to me that a committee

1678
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,400
subcommittee may be working on a set of

1679
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,200
data. Is it out of bounds for them to

1680
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,000
send you an email with a question?

1681
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,670
>> Definitely not. that would be

1682
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:47,680
» Definitely not. that would be

1683
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,640
appreciated because I know that there

1684
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,599
are certain things that this

1685
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,680
um committee has expertise on that

1686
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,280
Northwest Regional Planning might not

1687
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,280
have access to certain information or

1688
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,240
data or plans or ideas that you might

1689
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,240
have that should be incorporated in the

1690
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,200
update.

1691
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,920
So from my position here as chair,

1692
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,400
I would want all of the subcommittee

1693
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,400
chairpersons to be empowered, feel

1694
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,599
empowered that they could submit

1695
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:19,839
questions, you know, I send an email or

1696
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:21,839
a short conversation

1697
01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:24,480
uh if necessary to go after the contract

1698
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,200
is signed because we don't have that yet

1699
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200
and that we would monitor that

1700
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,480
utilization by in our

1701
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,559
reports at our monthly meetings. So when

1702
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:36,559
we go around the table and say each

1703
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:39,039
subcommittee's reporting, that's where

1704
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,680
we we collect a little understanding of

1705
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,000
how much utilization or underutilization

1706
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,599
we would be uh drawing upon. And if if

1707
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,319
if Emily or thought that we were uh

1708
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,359
using up too much time on you know long

1709
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:55,200
conversations that she could also let us

1710
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,280
know. Does that sound amendable to the

1711
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,440
group?

1712
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,109
>> Because if not maybe we just move on.

1713
01:06:01,109 --> 01:06:01,119
» Because if not maybe we just move on.

1714
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:03,520
Maybe we any other discussion on the uh

1715
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,270
scope of work.

1716
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,400
» Um I actually want to go back to the um

1717
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,319
proposed comp plan public participation

1718
01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:17,920
and then because I might end up coming

1719
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400
back to the scope of work and and on

1720
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,520
page five of the participation plan if

1721
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,440
someone can explain to me it's the

1722
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,760
bottom of page five the focus groups.

1723
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,839
There's two lists there both one through

1724
01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:33,599
seven and the first list

1725
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:36,000
the second item is trends and issues and

1726
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,000
then the second list you know is largely

1727
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,440
a reorganization of the first seven but

1728
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,599
what is missing

1729
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:47,440
is in the second grouping

1730
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,200
um

1731
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,359
issues is missing

1732
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:55,599
the trends and issues what happened to

1733
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:57,280
that and then if we go back to the nine

1734
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,839
required items. There's issues and

1735
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:02,720
opportunities. So we went from in the

1736
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,400
comp plan nine elements we went from

1737
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,880
issues and opportunities on the focus

1738
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,880
groups. Number two is trends and issues

1739
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,280
and then it is not seen in the second

1740
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,760
group of seven which left me with

1741
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,240
question.

1742
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,309
>> This is Emily. Issues and opportunities

1743
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:18,319
» This is Emily. Issues and opportunities

1744
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:22,000
is the name of the element

1745
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,000
uh as written in the comprehensive

1746
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,280
planning law.

1747
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,549
>> Right. But a lot of you Ashlin County

1748
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:28,559
» Right. But a lot of you Ashlin County

1749
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,960
must refer to that as trends and issues

1750
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,599
and it was not a part of the element

1751
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:35,039
focus groups for this public

1752
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:38,880
participation plan because that county's

1753
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,319
trends and issues or issues and

1754
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:43,359
opportunities was only a list of the

1755
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,440
issues and opportunities.

1756
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,119
So it was a full committee exercise of

1757
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:50,640
updating the list of issues and

1758
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,480
opportunities in the county and it was

1759
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,960
not at the subcommittee level. It was a

1760
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,640
full committee level meeting that that

1761
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,720
occurred.

1762
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,430
>> So for the sake of clarity, would it be

1763
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:01,440
» So for the sake of clarity, would it be

1764
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,280
helpful if we train change trends and

1765
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,480
issues to issues and opportunities

1766
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,640
for consistency?

1767
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,549
>> I'll leave that up to the committee, but

1768
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:10,559
» I'll leave that up to the committee, but

1769
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:12,799
it's for consistency with the

1770
01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:14,559
comprehensive planning law. It might be

1771
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:17,279
reasonable.

1772
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:21,590
>> Okay. So, I'm going to

1773
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:21,600
» Okay. So, I'm going to

1774
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,080
make a motion that at the board meeting

1775
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,920
tomorrow, the following change is

1776
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,799
supported. In focus groups number two,

1777
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:31,199
we change trends and issues to issues

1778
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:33,040
and opportunities so it's consistent

1779
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,239
with the element from the requirements

1780
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:39,199
for the comp plan.

1781
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:41,189
>> Well, okay. So, I need you to write that

1782
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:41,199
» Well, okay. So, I need you to write that

1783
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:42,799
down on paper so Karisha would have it

1784
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:45,440
specifically.

1785
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:47,920
So, at the board meeting tomorrow, I

1786
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,920
would make a motion that in the

1787
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,440
um public participation plan on page

1788
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:58,630
five

1789
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,920
under focus groups number two, trends

1790
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,709
and issues

1791
01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:13,669
is changed to

1792
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:19,269
issues. and opportunities

1793
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,120
so that it is consistent with the

1794
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,279
language used in one of the nine

1795
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:37,749
required elements of the comp plan.

1796
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:40,400
So it I interpret that as needing no

1797
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,839
action at this time because that's going

1798
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:44,400
to be brought as a motion tomorrow.

1799
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,030
>> Yeah.

1800
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:45,040
» Yeah.

1801
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:51,110
>> Okay.

1802
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,199
» Are there further comments or discussion

1803
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:58,630
on scope of work?

1804
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,950
Um,

1805
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,360
I'm just going to make a note that on

1806
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,480
lower part of page three in one of the

1807
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:10,880
bullets, second to the last of volume

1808
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,800
two, it says issues and opportunities.

1809
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,640
So, we we see it there. Now, the

1810
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,800
language is consistent.

1811
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,630
Excuse me.

1812
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,600
» Could you repeat that, please, Pat?

1813
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,679
Um

1814
01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:29,920
under volume two second to the last

1815
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,120
bullet is issues and opportunities. So

1816
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,640
now the proposed change for tomorrow

1817
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,480
changing trends and issues to issues and

1818
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:42,080
opportunities will occur

1819
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,320
um in the comp plan required elements in

1820
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,239
the previous document and it's

1821
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:48,159
consistent with issues and opportunities

1822
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:51,120
shown here. And so it's consistent then

1823
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,120
which makes it simpler for those of us

1824
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,950
who are easily confused.

1825
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,400
» Erica,

1826
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,950
>> I have uh a few suggestions just for

1827
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:02,960
» I have uh a few suggestions just for

1828
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,000
consistency and clarity of word choice

1829
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,800
across documents. But since this does

1830
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,040
not need to be finalized today, I think

1831
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,159
we should probably just do that as we

1832
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:17,360
talk with Northwest Regional.

1833
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,590
>> Uh okay. So I I agree with Erica's

1834
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:19,600
» Uh okay. So I I agree with Erica's

1835
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,840
comment. This is

1836
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,760
this is input document for

1837
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,199
preparation of a a contractual document

1838
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:32,000
and if there'll be rewarding and better

1839
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,600
wording of things I imagine in the

1840
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,560
contract and it'll be subject to a back

1841
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,920
and forth and discussion between

1842
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,679
our representative and Northwest

1843
01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:44,239
Regional Planning. So this basically

1844
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:46,560
sort of represents intent.

1845
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,800
And so the only thing that I thought I

1846
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,440
needed to add for intent was that idea

1847
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,480
of that I I need my committee these

1848
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:58,239
committee members to have access to the

1849
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:00,080
consultant with if they have if you have

1850
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,920
questions or need advice. That's the

1851
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,360
only thing I really wanted to add.

1852
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,320
Anybody else?

1853
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,960
Yeah. I really just want to express

1854
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,120
support for Erica's desire to have

1855
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,520
consistency of language. When I see

1856
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,159
language that's different, I can spend a

1857
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:18,000
lot of time trying to figure out why is

1858
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,840
this language different? Is it the same

1859
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,040
thing or not? And if it's stated

1860
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,199
differently or different words chosen,

1861
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:27,760
why is it different? Um, so I really

1862
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,520
appreciate the consistency of language

1863
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,600
and any extent that Erica, Alyssa, and

1864
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,360
others can make that language

1865
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,600
consistent, I really really appreciate

1866
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:42,149
that. So I don't go down rabbit holes.

1867
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:44,960
» Are we going to do that?

1868
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,110
>> Are we going to do that? Suggest that or

1869
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:47,120
» Are we going to do that? Suggest that or

1870
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,920
should we give um are we going to talk

1871
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,280
about that language changes? Because in

1872
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,840
the public participation plan on page

1873
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,880
five, it says focus groups, trends, and

1874
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,600
issues, which is what you want to change

1875
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,080
to issues and opportunities to be part

1876
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:08,400
of the um scope of work. Is that what

1877
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,520
you're saying?

1878
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,270
>> Yeah. In fact, that's a good point. If

1879
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:11,280
» Yeah. In fact, that's a good point. If

1880
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,440
it occurs in more than one place, we

1881
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:14,880
should make changes to the entire

1882
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,520
document

1883
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,110
>> and the public participation.

1884
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:17,120
» and the public participation.

1885
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,229
>> Yeah. because it it says trends and

1886
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:20,239
» Yeah. because it it says trends and

1887
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:20,880
issues in

1888
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,030
>> so I should I mean if the committee is

1889
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:23,040
» so I should I mean if the committee is

1890
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,679
okay with it replace trends and issues

1891
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:27,679
with issues and opportunities in the

1892
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:29,280
public participation plan and then

1893
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,520
someone could do a search and catch them

1894
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:36,790
all that would be good. Yeah.

1895
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,400
And does that mean that because and

1896
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,960
Erica you you've done a lot of planning

1897
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,719
to me trends, issues, and opportunities

1898
01:13:46,719 --> 01:13:50,320
are all different perspectives,

1899
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,239
but it sounds like what we're suggesting

1900
01:13:52,239 --> 01:13:54,719
is we don't talk about trends

1901
01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:56,239
necessarily.

1902
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:59,360
We talk about issues and then

1903
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,920
opportunities arising, but not

1904
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,080
necessarily trends. Like we said,

1905
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,600
housing,

1906
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,480
you know, is becoming perhaps more and

1907
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:11,280
more um owned by seasonal residents. So

1908
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,000
that's a trend is do we want to just

1909
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,239
give instruct since I'm doing the issues

1910
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:20,239
and now opportunities group

1911
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:22,709
>> in sorry in the scope of work or in the

1912
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:22,719
» in sorry in the scope of work or in the

1913
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:24,000
public participation plan

1914
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,390
>> in in the whole participation plan. If

1915
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:26,400
» in in the whole participation plan. If

1916
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,199
we're taking out trends, are we we we

1917
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:30,640
are we're still going to want to talk

1918
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,560
about trends, right? We're we're

1919
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,080
changing language

1920
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,440
that changes the discussion.

1921
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,350
>> Uh if I may, if is there any reason we

1922
01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:41,360
» Uh if I may, if is there any reason we

1923
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,800
can't just say trends, issues, and

1924
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,679
opportunities?

1925
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:45,350
>> That's what I'm asking. I mean,

1926
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:45,360
» That's what I'm asking. I mean,

1927
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,750
>> I don't see they all seem to go

1928
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:47,760
» I don't see they all seem to go

1929
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,600
together. Trends in give uh insight to

1930
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,239
issues which open up discussion of

1931
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:56,560
opportunities. It's kind of a sequential

1932
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,040
thing.

1933
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,149
>> That's what I'm asking. So I would

1934
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:58,159
» That's what I'm asking. So I would

1935
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,080
prefer the language trends, trends,

1936
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,840
issues and opportunities.

1937
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,990
>> And the definition

1938
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:04,000
» And the definition

1939
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,320
of the issues and opportunities element

1940
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,159
is that it includes background

1941
01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:10,560
information on the county and a

1942
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,239
statement of overall objectives,

1943
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:14,640
policies, goals, and programs of the

1944
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,640
county to guide future development and

1945
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,719
redevelopment of the county over a

1946
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:21,440
20-year planning period. Background

1947
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:23,600
information includes population,

1948
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,199
household, and employment for CRA Cass.

1949
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:29,440
that the county uses in developing its

1950
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,679
comprehensive plan and demographic

1951
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:34,640
trends, age distribution, education

1952
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,440
levels, income levels, and employment

1953
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,000
characteristics that exist within the

1954
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,520
county.

1955
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,679
So within the definition, it does

1956
01:15:43,679 --> 01:15:47,040
incorporate the housing and population

1957
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:51,750
trends and projections.

1958
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,199
So when I have those public

1959
01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:55,679
conversations or however we do those,

1960
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,040
we'll make sure that we're going to

1961
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,960
bring up those three things and then

1962
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,280
they'll be fact checked by trends that

1963
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,199
have been identified in volume one.

1964
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:08,320
Does that sound right?

1965
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,390
>> Yeah.

1966
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:10,400
» Yeah.

1967
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,830
>> So if we may, we could move on to item

1968
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:13,840
» So if we may, we could move on to item

1969
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,920
5e, which is our working relationship

1970
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,000
and scheduling with Northwest Regional

1971
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,080
Planning.

1972
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,719
Uh Emily, are you sort of able to give

1973
01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:25,199
us the outline of how we proceed with

1974
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:28,000
you folks from, you know, development of

1975
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,440
contract and our first steps forward?

1976
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:35,669
>> The next step would be to

1977
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:35,679
» The next step would be to

1978
01:16:35,679 --> 01:16:37,600
develop a contract based on the scope of

1979
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,480
work and the county board to approve

1980
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,560
that contract with Northwest Regional

1981
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,360
Planning.

1982
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,000
And typically, I think what we've done

1983
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,600
with other counties is have a more

1984
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,199
condensed version of this scope of work,

1985
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:55,120
like sort of a one page for the

1986
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,880
contract,

1987
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,080
and then we internally have this longer,

1988
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,280
more comprehensive document to work with

1989
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,199
um between the committee and the staff

1990
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:07,040
members at Northwest Regional Planning.

1991
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:13,270
If that sounds reasonable,

1992
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,880
» that means to me that we'll need this

1993
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,480
contract approved at the county board

1994
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:18,159
meeting next month.

1995
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:20,870
>> Otherwise, we'll have be delayed.

1996
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:20,880
» Otherwise, we'll have be delayed.

1997
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,110
>> So,

1998
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:23,120
» So,

1999
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,239
I think we have an expedited process. Uh

2000
01:17:26,239 --> 01:17:27,920
there'll be an amendment to the already

2001
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,159
approved public participation plan at

2002
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:32,960
the county board meeting tomorrow. And

2003
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,679
either an amendment will pass or not

2004
01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:37,199
pass. and then either the public

2005
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:38,800
participation plan will pass or not

2006
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,560
pass. Hopefully the county board will

2007
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,239
approve it and then we'll be able to

2008
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:44,159
move forward with the contract based on

2009
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,640
the scope of work and hopefully in

2010
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,239
August the county board will approve

2011
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,640
that contract. Erica,

2012
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,030
>> quick question just as to timeline. Will

2013
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:53,040
» quick question just as to timeline. Will

2014
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,239
we meet with Northwest Regional to talk

2015
01:17:56,239 --> 01:17:59,040
about the scope of work at least as a

2016
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,800
subgroup of us to actually delineate

2017
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,920
verbiage and requirements

2018
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,120
and then bring it back to this committee

2019
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,920
as a whole to vote yes or no and then

2020
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,239
take it to the county board.

2021
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:17,030
>> I think that's I would prefer not to go

2022
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:17,040
» I think that's I would prefer not to go

2023
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,560
that route because I think it takes too

2024
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,159
much time.

2025
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:22,480
I think I would be looking to the county

2026
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:26,800
administrator to determine how it would

2027
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,120
be most expeditious to put the contract

2028
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,800
in place so that the work of the

2029
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,480
committee with boardwise regional

2030
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:35,760
planning can go forward. If we become

2031
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,840
too legalistic and bureaucratic, we're

2032
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,239
just not going to move forward.

2033
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:41,920
participation.

2034
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,870
>> Go ahead.

2035
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:42,880
» Go ahead.

2036
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,430
>> Would it be reasonable for me to send

2037
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:45,440
» Would it be reasonable for me to send

2038
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:49,040
the scope of services in a contract form

2039
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:54,080
for that smaller group to review?

2040
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,480
So, it talks about what Northwest

2041
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:59,199
Regional Planning will be responsible

2042
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,600
for, what Ashlin County will be

2043
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,280
responsible for, and is that certain

2044
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,920
that the county is interested in doing

2045
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,840
the public opinion digital survey

2046
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,120
with a um summary report of key

2047
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,120
findings? Should that be included?

2048
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,239
Why don't you send that to

2049
01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:24,630
>> You could send that to

2050
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:24,640
» You could send that to

2051
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,239
um Dan Grady,

2052
01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:31,199
Gary Merte,

2053
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:34,000
George Buset

2054
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,960
and we will take a look at it and I will

2055
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,480
disseminate it to the rest of the

2056
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:41,120
committee for comment and we will

2057
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,880
integrate our comments. uh and

2058
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,120
I think the focal point subject to his

2059
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,719
agreement will have to be the county

2060
01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:52,400
administrator for the preparation and uh

2061
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,480
legal review to get legal review of the

2062
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:56,719
contract. So yes, that'll be fine.

2063
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:58,480
Please do so.

2064
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:03,430
>> All right, we'll plan to do that.

2065
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:04,239
» Okay.

2066
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:05,830
>> The other the scope of work you're

2067
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:05,840
» The other the scope of work you're

2068
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,080
talking about today at this meeting can

2069
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,360
be a working document as well.

2070
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,189
>> Thank you.

2071
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:13,199
» Thank you.

2072
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:16,480
So moving on, uh the next agenda item is

2073
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:20,719
to discuss um 5F which is township

2074
01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:23,600
inputs to planning.

2075
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,159
So the question is how we're going to

2076
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:29,920
how would we do that? The idea was to go

2077
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,679
out to the towns

2078
01:20:33,679 --> 01:20:35,600
and ask them to include this in their

2079
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,320
town meeting agendas.

2080
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,800
And I don't know.

2081
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,679
I think we're not doing that quite yet.

2082
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:45,760
Listen, have you had any progress on

2083
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,440
that?

2084
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:49,910
>> Um, no, not yet.

2085
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:49,920
» Um, no, not yet.

2086
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,430
>> So, that we'll have to figure out who's

2087
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:51,440
» So, that we'll have to figure out who's

2088
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,520
going to do that at our I think our

2089
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,159
August meeting is going to have to be

2090
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:57,920
nuts and bolts. Figure out who's going

2091
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,000
to do what meeting

2092
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,000
and that would be part of it.

2093
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,000
So if there's nothing on township

2094
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,120
inputs, then we move to um discussion of

2095
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,159
communication vehicles,

2096
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:16,229
anybody?

2097
01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:19,360
Paul, how about your computer, Charlie?

2098
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,080
I I guess I kind of thought that would

2099
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,760
be

2100
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,840
that Northwest Regional will tell us

2101
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,440
what they're where they're going to have

2102
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:29,760
these documents and how we can feed back

2103
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,040
on them or just look at them cuz we're

2104
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,520
not going to have them somewhere. Right,

2105
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,790
>> Erica?

2106
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:38,800
» Erica?

2107
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,229
>> So, we have a SharePoint site set up and

2108
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:42,239
» So, we have a SharePoint site set up and

2109
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:44,880
Emily referred to it. I assume that

2110
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,800
Emily's referring to our SharePoint

2111
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,800
site. Um, are people able to access that

2112
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,120
yet? I have talked with Dan about this

2113
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,000
many times and I don't know how many

2114
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,639
times he's contacted it about it, but I

2115
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:02,400
mean there is already a lot of documents

2116
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,000
on there, surveys that Lisa has done,

2117
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,600
surveys of staff that I have done, um,

2118
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,639
old documents, other input, it's all

2119
01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:15,440
there and it should be accessible to

2120
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:18,719
everyone. Um, I think last time George

2121
01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:22,320
you said you couldn't access it. There

2122
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,159
was at least once that Dan himself

2123
01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:28,639
couldn't access it on his iPad or on,

2124
01:22:28,639 --> 01:22:31,440
you know, whatever other technology

2125
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:33,840
other than his desktop. So I I just need

2126
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,600
to know and if I need to go straight to

2127
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,400
it and like somehow figure this out

2128
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,600
because we have that set and I'd really

2129
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,920
like for people to be able to get to it

2130
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,000
cuz I have put many many hours into it

2131
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,199
already. Um yeah I mean I think the

2132
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:51,520
other things here we should definitely

2133
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,360
talk about but I think as like as a

2134
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,960
clearing house of information for us we

2135
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,310
have that.

2136
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,159
» Okay. And this is Emily from Northwest

2137
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:04,400
Regional Planning. I don't believe we've

2138
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,960
seen or have access to that SharePoint

2139
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,760
either.

2140
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:12,070
>> Okay.

2141
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,560
» What's the address to it?

2142
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,310
>> Uh, it was sent to everyone on the

2143
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:16,320
» Uh, it was sent to everyone on the

2144
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,239
committee at least twice.

2145
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:18,550
>> Okay.

2146
01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:18,560
» Okay.

2147
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,310
>> I can send it again. I do need to double

2148
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:22,320
» I can send it again. I do need to double

2149
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,040
check though, Emily,

2150
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,679
if the county will add Northwest

2151
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:31,840
Regional to it. um because it it is

2152
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,080
within the administration drive and so

2153
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,320
then you would have access to kind of

2154
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,830
>> a bunch of other documents that you

2155
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:37,840
» a bunch of other documents that you

2156
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,000
probably shouldn't have access to.

2157
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,990
>> Um so I'll

2158
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:42,000
» Um so I'll

2159
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,310
>> if that's the case we could utilize

2160
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:44,320
» if that's the case we could utilize

2161
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,040
Northwest Regional Planning SharePoint

2162
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,360
for any sort of draft materials.

2163
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,189
>> Okay. I'll talk to Dan about that

2164
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:51,199
» Okay. I'll talk to Dan about that

2165
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,840
tomorrow and see what the best course of

2166
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,440
action is.

2167
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:59,189
>> Okay.

2168
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:02,400
uh comment on that is that um Erica did

2169
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,920
send me that I wasn't I've haven't been

2170
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,440
able to get into SharePoint yet, but

2171
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:08,320
Erica sent me copies of all the county

2172
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,520
departments inputs and it's terrific

2173
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,679
material. We all have feedback from all

2174
01:24:13,679 --> 01:24:16,000
of the county departments

2175
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,719
on their views of input to the the

2176
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:20,719
comprehensive plan and it's it's great

2177
01:24:20,719 --> 01:24:23,199
stuff. See, we just really all need to

2178
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:24,560
be able to get into SharePoint and look

2179
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,320
at this stuff because when we start

2180
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,639
getting the feedback from the towns,

2181
01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:31,440
that'll be in the same location and a

2182
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:32,719
lot of our committee work will be in the

2183
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:34,159
same location. So, Charlie, you had to

2184
01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:35,280
come in.

2185
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,110
>> Yeah, but I have a different one now.

2186
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:37,120
» Yeah, but I have a different one now.

2187
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,320
Uh, so the when we say feedback from the

2188
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,560
townships, are we looking for that in

2189
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,120
their updates to their plans or their

2190
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,080
direct input to this plan

2191
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,480
or both? Well, I think we're looking for

2192
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:52,880
their input to the county's perspective,

2193
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,719
but obviously that's going to have a lot

2194
01:24:54,719 --> 01:24:56,159
to do with what they think about their

2195
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:57,440
own townships.

2196
01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:57,990
>> Yeah.

2197
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:58,000
» Yeah.

2198
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,390
>> But they they may have comments about

2199
01:25:00,390 --> 01:25:00,400
» But they they may have comments about

2200
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,920
county roads, things that they aren't

2201
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,280
responsible for that, but that that

2202
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,000
affect them.

2203
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,669
>> Okay.

2204
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:05,679
» Okay.

2205
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:08,560
And then the SharePoints, I I assume

2206
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,440
that

2207
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:16,000
our SharePoint is for inputs to their to

2208
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,440
NWRPCs. will then add them to that do

2209
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:22,080
their document or not or somehow and

2210
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,560
then that that'll be on the the rewrites

2211
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,159
going to be on on the NWRPC share points

2212
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:31,600
right the actual

2213
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,350
>> we have not figured that out yet that's

2214
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:33,360
» we have not figured that out yet that's

2215
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,600
what I'm going to try to figure out okay

2216
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,520
tomorrow for the fourth

2217
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,149
>> all right thank you

2218
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:45,040
okay anything further on communications

2219
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:45,600
Pat

2220
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,229
>> this is Liz I got to leave. I'm going to

2221
01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:48,239
» this is Liz I got to leave. I'm going to

2222
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:50,560
work. All right. Thank you everybody.

2223
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:51,679
Byebye.

2224
01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:52,390
>> Take care, Liz.

2225
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:52,400
» Take care, Liz.

2226
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:52,790
>> Bye.

2227
01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:52,800
» Bye.

2228
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,550
>> Bye. You too.

2229
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:54,560
» Bye. You too.

2230
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,750
>> Yeah.

2231
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:55,760
» Yeah.

2232
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,950
>> You know, it occurs to me from um from

2233
01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:58,960
» You know, it occurs to me from um from

2234
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,280
when I was teaching and we started

2235
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,040
putting lots of stuff online. I taught

2236
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,080
lots of online and ITV courses is I

2237
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,440
always tried to keep things really

2238
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:11,520
organized and not be redundant. Um and

2239
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,440
so there was a logical place to find

2240
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:15,520
stuff. I would keep those documentes

2241
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,320
those documents updated and current and

2242
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,000
I wouldn't have a bunch of what I call

2243
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,840
clutter that people had to wade through.

2244
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,199
I wouldn't have the same thing in

2245
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:24,880
multiple places. Some instructors say,

2246
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,400
"Oh, they can always find it here. You

2247
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,239
can find it there." And what I think

2248
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:30,639
about is when we get to this time of

2249
01:26:30,639 --> 01:26:32,719
year and we started preparing for

2250
01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:34,239
semester,

2251
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:36,080
um some people would say, "Oh, I got to

2252
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,440
update this and that." It was like, "Why

2253
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:38,880
do you have in so many places?" And of

2254
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,080
course, they don't remember to update

2255
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,480
everything. the more stuff you have out

2256
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:43,920
there, the more vehicles of

2257
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,000
communication, the more things that have

2258
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,080
to be updated, the more things that you

2259
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,920
have to take data information from one

2260
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,360
place and then stick it somewhere else.

2261
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:52,800
If you're saying, "I'm going to make all

2262
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,440
this available." So, the more places you

2263
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:56,960
have stuff and the more it has to be

2264
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,639
coordinated and transferred to and the

2265
01:26:58,639 --> 01:27:01,600
more it has to be updated, not only is

2266
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,159
it a lot of work and it's what I call

2267
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:05,840
self-inflicted wounds because people

2268
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,360
have too much in too many places

2269
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,400
because, oh, I'm going to do it on

2270
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,679
social media. I'm going to do it all

2271
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:12,000
these other places. It sounds great

2272
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,600
until someone has to coordinate and do

2273
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,520
the work and keep it current, but it

2274
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,080
also means it's harder for, you know, in

2275
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,600
this case, the public to find stuff

2276
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,040
because now they're waiting through in

2277
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,120
different places looking for stuff and

2278
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,600
it all can't be current and updated at

2279
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,280
the same time because, well, somebody's

2280
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,440
got to do that. So, I actually think

2281
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:32,400
there's a lot of merit to to

2282
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,639
being concise both with the

2283
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:39,280
types of communications and how it's

2284
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,199
stored, how it's organized, how it's

2285
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:43,040
presented, you know, as we go through

2286
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,639
this process because too much in too

2287
01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:46,800
many places. And then somebody might

2288
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,480
say, "Oh, I've seen three places I could

2289
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:49,840
give input, so I'm going to give input

2290
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,679
in all three places." Well, that isn't

2291
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:53,360
really statistically valid either

2292
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,280
because it's the same person doing it

2293
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,840
multiple times just because they can.

2294
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,560
So, you know, all these ways that we're

2295
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,800
going to engage the public have bearing

2296
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,239
on how many ways we're going to

2297
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:05,760
communicate and who's going to do the

2298
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,760
work of organizing synthesizes and

2299
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,120
keeping it up to date. They tie

2300
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,159
together. And it's nice to be ambitious,

2301
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:14,480
but that doesn't always translate to

2302
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:18,480
clarity and ease of use.

2303
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:21,830
>> Other comment, Erica?

2304
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:21,840
» Other comment, Erica?

2305
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,669
>> Sorry, this doesn't refer to Pat's

2306
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:23,679
» Sorry, this doesn't refer to Pat's

2307
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:25,520
comment. Just going back to the township

2308
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,719
inputs. Oh, just just wanted to ask I

2309
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:33,199
mean at what point are you imagining

2310
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:36,880
this George? Is it is it that we should

2311
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,440
take the first draft of the full comp

2312
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:42,400
plan to each of the townships

2313
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,000
or

2314
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,159
make efforts at the subcommittee level

2315
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:49,679
to include township feedback within

2316
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:53,199
their sections? Or is that what we're

2317
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:55,840
figuring out today? I'm just trying to

2318
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,149
>> Yeah. I know I'm against

2319
01:28:58,149 --> 01:28:58,159
» Yeah. I know I'm against

2320
01:28:58,159 --> 01:28:59,679
We're going to attempt to do with the

2321
01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:01,360
townships the same thing we did with the

2322
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,199
county departments. That was as simple

2323
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:09,669
as that.

2324
01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:11,760
Moving on.

2325
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,440
Is there anything more on communications

2326
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:21,110
to discuss

2327
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,080
» which is review of progress versus

2328
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:25,600
calendarized work plan which is

2329
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:30,629
basically laid out in

2330
01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:35,840
I kind of check whether

2331
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,080
we're behind schedule or not behind

2332
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,520
schedule. This is at the end of the

2333
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,960
scope of work in a grid format.

2334
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:47,669
Going there you go.

2335
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:50,880
So in this layout which is just a

2336
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,239
typical kind of 18month scenario that

2337
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:57,040
was provided in the Bernett County

2338
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,000
example basically. So, Northwest

2339
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,719
Regional Planning provided us a c uh

2340
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:06,800
Paul a copy of another county's planning

2341
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,880
and the scope of work basically comes

2342
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,600
out of that. So, in our scope of work,

2343
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,239
there is this timetable. It's kind of a

2344
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:16,639
checklist of whether we're keeping up or

2345
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:21,440
not, and it's an 18-month cycle. So,

2346
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:22,880
if we're going to be done by the end of

2347
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,880
2026, this would be the first month of

2348
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,639
the cycle.

2349
01:30:26,639 --> 01:30:29,120
It'd be July. And uh so month one would

2350
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,639
be established steering committee

2351
01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:35,760
um and internal plan review to identify

2352
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,960
content and revisions. I don't know that

2353
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,920
we've all really done that, but

2354
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,199
hopefully each uh subcommittee element

2355
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:47,600
is looking at their individual elements

2356
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,920
and reviewing it and taking that as

2357
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,520
input.

2358
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,120
And as far as I can see, that's where we

2359
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,880
are right now. And then in pre-planning

2360
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,360
month two here is revise and adopt

2361
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,080
public participation plan. So I think

2362
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,480
I'd say we're on schedule. And then in

2363
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:07,280
month three which would be August.

2364
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,000
No should be actually September would be

2365
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,000
you know set up plan update web page.

2366
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,440
Maybe we'll be able to do that maybe

2367
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:17,040
not. Engage local units of government

2368
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,800
and to issue press releases. So if we're

2369
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,199
get the public participation plan in

2370
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:26,159
place uh as of August, I think we're on

2371
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:28,000
target and then if on month three we

2372
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,400
have some some objectives to work for.

2373
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:36,629
Is there discussion?

2374
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:38,480
I mean to me looks to me like we're all

2375
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:41,600
doing okay.

2376
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,920
Being no discussion, we move on to the

2377
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,800
question of publicity

2378
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,800
because right now I don't think the

2379
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,239
public has any sense that we're doing

2380
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:53,199
this at all. I don't know what people's

2381
01:31:53,199 --> 01:32:05,750
ideas might be.

2382
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,600
» Any thoughts, comments, conversation on

2383
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,480
on publicity?

2384
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:11,440
If not,

2385
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:12,149
>> I do.

2386
01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:12,159
» I do.

2387
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:13,830
>> Oh, Charlie. Okay, good.

2388
01:32:13,830 --> 01:32:13,840
» Oh, Charlie. Okay, good.

2389
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,669
>> Didn't we just talk about that earlier?

2390
01:32:17,669 --> 01:32:17,679
» Didn't we just talk about that earlier?

2391
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:22,159
And we were worried about the

2392
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:25,440
throwing out too many ways to get that

2393
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:28,880
publicity for it. Is that what you meant

2394
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,239
by this or not? Uh what I mean is

2395
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:34,159
raising public awareness that there's a

2396
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:35,840
comprehensive plan review going on and

2397
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,320
they're invited to provide input and I

2398
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,239
don't think the public has has a clue

2399
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:41,840
that we're doing this and we have to

2400
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,679
talk about ways of informing them that

2401
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:44,560
we're doing it.

2402
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,550
>> That's what I thought we're going to

2403
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:46,560
» That's what I thought we're going to

2404
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,920
address that we the Cadillac plan that

2405
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,000
isn't aren't those all ways we were

2406
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,679
going to try to generate publicity and

2407
01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:56,400
we're just not there yet.

2408
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,070
>> Those are ways that we can engage but

2409
01:32:58,070 --> 01:32:58,080
» Those are ways that we can engage but

2410
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,280
there could be other ways and other

2411
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,199
ideas. Okay, Erica.

2412
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:02,950
>> All right, I got you. I don't have any

2413
01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:02,960
» All right, I got you. I don't have any

2414
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,560
additional, but thank you for that

2415
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:05,600
clarification.

2416
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,750
>> So, one thing I' uh we talked about this

2417
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:07,760
» So, one thing I' uh we talked about this

2418
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,520
really briefly last time, but I would

2419
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,360
like to say I I would be very happy to

2420
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,080
write a press release for us. I think

2421
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,639
maybe the best timing for that. So, it's

2422
01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:18,159
in the pre-planning. It's in the month

2423
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:20,800
three, the next month thing. It's is

2424
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,239
listed. Um, but I think it would

2425
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:28,000
probably be good to have a signed

2426
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,639
uh agreement with Northwest Regional so

2427
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:34,000
that we announce that that we have the

2428
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,239
website fully operational with actual

2429
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:39,520
information on it and an email so that

2430
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,679
we can refer people. If you're

2431
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:43,199
interested in a subcommittee, if you're

2432
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:45,440
interested, then let us know through

2433
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:47,600
email, right? so that there's like one

2434
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:52,800
one portal to the county for um that uh

2435
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,960
but then I would also suggest that we

2436
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,000
use some sort of photo right we it it's

2437
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,040
people don't sort of focus in on a story

2438
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,120
if you don't include at least one image

2439
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,360
I think so if there are suggestions for

2440
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,120
photos if or if we want to do the tree

2441
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,840
planting before that you know I just

2442
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,000
think the the timing maybe needs to come

2443
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,960
just slightly later because we need to

2444
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,719
have things to declare there and places

2445
01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:19,360
for people to go within that press

2446
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:35,030
release.

2447
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,080
Other thoughts and comments?

2448
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:39,760
Well, if you're going to plant a tree,

2449
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,199
you know, you can plant them spring or

2450
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:43,199
fall, but in the fall when things have

2451
01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:44,880
gone dormant. So, don't, you know, in

2452
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,639
the middle of August, plant your tree

2453
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:49,120
because that would raise eyebrows, at

2454
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,239
least among some.

2455
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:53,830
>> So, the best time to plant a tree is in

2456
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:53,840
» So, the best time to plant a tree is in

2457
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,360
the spring.

2458
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:56,950
>> Most trees get planted in the spring,

2459
01:34:56,950 --> 01:34:56,960
» Most trees get planted in the spring,

2460
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,560
but you can plant in the fall, too.

2461
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,480
Depends on the species to some extent

2462
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,440
and the size, but but certainly not in

2463
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:04,960
August.

2464
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,950
>> Okay.

2465
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:06,960
» Okay.

2466
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,679
Uh it strikes me that a pressure release

2467
01:35:09,679 --> 01:35:11,520
at the time of the signing of the

2468
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:12,880
contract with Northwest Regional

2469
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,360
Planning would be a good announcement

2470
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,000
that county is as is launching his

2471
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,639
comprehensive plan effort and is uh

2472
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:22,080
contracted with Northwest Regional

2473
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,400
Planning to to assist with this work

2474
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:28,000
that worthy of a press release and and

2475
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,760
then other things could follow. I don't

2476
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,679
think we have to do it all at once.

2477
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:41,590
Other ideas, comments?

2478
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,280
Item six on the agenda is the scheduled

2479
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,040
next meeting, which I have tenatively

2480
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:50,560
put down here for uh Monday, August 18.

2481
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,239
That's agreeable to folks. I think we

2482
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:56,950
just stick with that date

2483
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,639
and then we get to our second public

2484
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:00,639
comment period. I don't see anybody

2485
01:36:00,639 --> 01:36:03,280
online for public comment. I don't see

2486
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,080
anybody present for public comment. So

2487
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,920
then

2488
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,360
we're down to item eight.

2489
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,950
>> George, I might have something August

2490
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:10,960
» George, I might have something August

2491
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,560
18th, but I don't have my calendar here,

2492
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,719
so don't be surprised if I email you.

2493
01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:17,189
>> Okay. Um,

2494
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:17,199
» Okay. Um,

2495
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:19,350
>> this is autumn at Northwest Regional

2496
01:36:19,350 --> 01:36:19,360
» this is autumn at Northwest Regional

2497
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,080
Planning.

2498
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:21,110
>> Go ahead.

2499
01:36:21,110 --> 01:36:21,120
» Go ahead.

2500
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:22,790
>> U, we have a standing meeting every

2501
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:22,800
» U, we have a standing meeting every

2502
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,400
third Monday at one. We actually me and

2503
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,719
Emily had to step out of that meeting

2504
01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:32,719
today to attend this one. Um so that

2505
01:36:32,719 --> 01:36:37,360
normally would provide a conflict um at

2506
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,030
1:00.

2507
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:48,470
» Uh how about 2:00?

2508
01:36:48,480 --> 01:36:53,679
» No. Hello. Uh potentially um our

2509
01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:56,480
standing um meeting is actually out of

2510
01:36:56,480 --> 01:37:00,639
the office. We normally would return

2511
01:37:00,639 --> 01:37:05,199
on those at about 3:30.

2512
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:07,750
>> Okay. Maybe you could look at um at how

2513
01:37:07,750 --> 01:37:07,760
» Okay. Maybe you could look at um at how

2514
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,719
flexible your your your operations are.

2515
01:37:10,719 --> 01:37:12,320
It's very difficult to schedule this

2516
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:13,520
committee meeting

2517
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,070
>> and a lot of conflicts here. So, um, I

2518
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:16,080
» and a lot of conflicts here. So, um, I

2519
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,480
will look at alternatives, but for right

2520
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:20,000
now, I'm going to have to hold this date

2521
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,560
because it's very, very difficult to get

2522
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,280
this committee together.

2523
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,229
>> Okay. No.

2524
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:26,239
» Okay. No.

2525
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:27,669
>> Mhm.

2526
01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:27,679
» Mhm.

2527
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:31,910
>> And so then, no public comment. Uh, and

2528
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:31,920
» And so then, no public comment. Uh, and

2529
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,199
there's committee review of public

2530
01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:34,719
comments because we're required to do

2531
01:37:34,719 --> 01:37:37,360
that. And then there's other business

2532
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,440
and future agenda recommendations.

2533
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:41,040
Anybody have an agenda item they want to

2534
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:46,470
put down for next time?

2535
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:49,199
And final round robin of comments.

2536
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:54,790
Anybody want to do a summary comment?

2537
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,239
Pat,

2538
01:37:56,239 --> 01:37:58,310
>> you know, Bayfield County kind of kept

2539
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:58,320
» you know, Bayfield County kind of kept

2540
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,239
theirs shorter and they had some kind of

2541
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:02,639
nice display in materials and whatever

2542
01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:04,560
that seemed to have caught people's

2543
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,719
attention more than the usual comp plan

2544
01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:08,719
updates. There's something to be said

2545
01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:12,320
for brevity. Um, I think Bayfield County

2546
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,800
benefited from that.

2547
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,480
You know, I grew up in Bayfield County,

2548
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:18,480
still have land there, so I actually saw

2549
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:21,040
more of what they did than what Ashlin

2550
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,560
County did. Um, people don't read long

2551
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,360
documents.

2552
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,040
Revity is

2553
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:30,629
>> Yeah, I concur with that observation.

2554
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:30,639
» Yeah, I concur with that observation.

2555
01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:32,560
I'd really like to the city of Ashlin's

2556
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,800
comprehensive plan. It's much uh

2557
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,119
shorter, easier to read. So when we get

2558
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:39,119
to boiling things down, we might might

2559
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:41,040
consider that.

2560
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,320
Other summary comments. If not, a motion

2561
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,199
to adjurnn, please.

2562
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:52,870
Charlie moves to adjurnn. Second.

2563
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,960
Is that Gary?

2564
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,000
Oh, Paul. Paul seconds. Okay. Second.

2565
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,000
Okay.

2566
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:04,070
>> And all in favor of adjournment I post.

2567
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:04,080
» And all in favor of adjournment I post.

2568
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:04,800
I

2569
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,760
>> thank you everybody.