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Pre-Council meeting to order for the City of Ashe, tabula. Today is Monday, September 21st, 2026. Would you please call the roll? Mr. Roskiewicz. Here. Mr. Simeone. Here. Mr. Dakota. Mr. Guerrero. Here. Ms. Holman. Present. Mrs. Mills. Here. Mrs. Di Jocomo. Mr. Timonier. Here. Mr. Cooper. Here. Mr. Khan.

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here. Okay, very good. We are pre-confirmating. It's nice to be here at 6 o'clock. Our next

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council meeting is October 5th at 6 o'clock, so write that down and I'll announce that

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again. But other than that, I don't think we have anything, I don't think I have anything

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the report, so we will go right to the City Manager's report.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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So just a few ordinances to ask for tonight first.

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We need to amend the contract with Amandola Engineering, the mixing zone studies, and

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other necessary work related to the relocation of outfall 001.

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In the amount of $50,000 for a total cost of the contract not to exceed $166,000.

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And that's to be paid from the Water Pollution Fund 504.

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For these are extra requirements and equipment that the EPA is requiring of our mixing zone studies as we move forward.

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We've done two of them so far.

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They've asked for additional meetings.

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They've asked for some of this additional work to be done, so we do have to amend the contract to satisfy the EPA.

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So that's what that increases about.

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The next is an ordinance to dispose of an obsolete and unneeded vehicle in the police department.

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Just another one of the chargers that is no longer in service.

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This one was late ad, so I do apologize for that, but we had the loader have a malfunction at the end of last week and we were able to receive quotes this today.

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So I've tried to get it on here because it's such a distance between the next council meeting, and it's a loader that we do need.

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So requesting an ordinance to enter into contract with Petro Services.

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They're out in Geneva to make repairs to the case loader for the public works department in an amount not to see $12,540 and that'll come out of the public works fund.

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And then I would like to reappoint this just I'll just need a voice vote on that and I believe we can do that during this meeting just need a voice vote to reappoint Maria Fowler to the Board of Health retroactive to September 1st with a term to expire on September 1st, 2031.

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I will move we reappoint where we are followed to the Board of Health.

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I'll second.

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There's a motion in a second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Anyone opposed?

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We will reappoint Ms. Fowler by a 5-0 vote.

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Okay, it's hard to believe, but leaf bag pickup curbside.

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The leaves are starting to fall, so that has begun this week we're in the harbor area.

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Next week will be in the wards and it'll rotate on and off like that until November 23rd.

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The schedule is on the website under the quick way to get to it is just quick links.

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And then the leaf bag pickup schedule drop down.

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You can click on that to get to there.

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Mr. President, it's all I have from my report right now.

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Mr. President?

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Yes.

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I have a couple things for the city manager.

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Street lights.

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1812, West 11th.

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And I think right around the corner on Pennsylvania, there's one too.

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Do you have an address for the one in person?

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I do not, I can get it though, but that's someone call that in for me.

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Okay.

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If you can get the address, we can put it in the website for you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. President.

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Yes.

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Well, on the topic of street lights, what's Mr. Terminary, what is the pattern?

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Is it opposites, they go opposites, or is it all on the one side, or what's the pattern of the design?

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That is a luminated company design, not a city design.

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So typically it's every other poll, and typically it's on the same side of the street.

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Now there are some larger wider roads where they then stagger and

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they go across the street up and down, but typically it's every other poll.

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and on one side of the street like in the neighborhood areas but on like I'm

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thinking of Lake Avenue it's staggers it jumps back and forth across the street

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same thing on Route 20. What about in the neighborhoods and I'm specifically

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thinking about we had the movie night on West 38th Street Park and I don't know if

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it's intentional that they're not lights in the park area to deter activity

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after dark or but I was wondering what is the pattern and why aren't why isn't the

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the park more lit up.

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Well, typically we don't have lights in the parks.

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I think just on the streets, if there's not an already a light there, that's just the way it was made by the illuminating company.

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So all of the lights are actually owned by the illuminating company.

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They service them, but we pay the street light fee to have them on.

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Mr. President, could I pick you back on that?

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And I had to investigate, I had to investigate one the other night on East Second.

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So I'm assuming the new ones are LEDs, where the old ones are.

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Well, because there was one installed there, but way higher than other lights.

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I don't know, the guy that called me showed me and it's, his problem is it's too bright.

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I mean, it's like not his whole backyard, you know, shining through his bedroom window, and I was like, I mean, that's just a streetlight.

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It is up pretty high.

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I just want to deserve uniform height.

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That's kind of it.

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That's also a tree clad.

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Right.

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I'm assuming they put it up high enough to get over there.

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I'm ready to get over the canopy.

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Over there.

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No, there's not.

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I mean, again, when we request repairs to lights or anything like that, they just,

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There's the contract that we have with the Illuminating Company now.

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If there's a light out, when they go out to repair it, they're to replace the head with an LED.

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You remember, it was a while ago that we had the Illuminating Company here explaining that whole process to us.

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Now, they have blamed supply chain issues and everything else where sometimes they've had to go out and just put new bulbs in them or change the photo cells because they've been out of the LED lights.

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But we keep track of those and make them go back as best as we can.

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But we do have this link on our website as well.

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It's the same one we use so we don't get any special treatment when we call it in versus anyone else.

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There's a link to the illuminating company's website.

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So if you have something on your street in front of your house that the street lights out, all you do is put the address in there.

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Give a brief description of the area.

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You don't have to have the poll number and then you can report the street lights.

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That's that's what I'll do with the with with what you would you include around the

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I don't know if there's an address near the 38 Street Park. I'll take a look at what's down there

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But I mean if there's not a light already up there

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There's a there's a high cost for them to install lights on poles that we have to cover

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So as far as we know are they all the ones that we have are they're all supposed to be on they are all supposed to be on we

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We pay for them whether they're wrong.

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I do see some others out.

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There are quite a few out, and we've been for years going around with the illuminating company about their response time to fix lights and then the amount that it is.

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Because even I'm six feet by the lift bridge, there's, yeah, it's like I said, we just either people can report them, we can report them.

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Typically when we get night shift to start in the winter time, if it's not smelling, they don't have other jobs to do, we'll have them start riding around.

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on writing down addresses and poll numbers if they have them and then submitting them to the office that we send in the aluminum name company.

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All right, would you look into that at night, I don't know.

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Just see if there is lights on the polls.

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Yeah.

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Mr. President.

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Yeah.

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Can I ask Mr. Manager a couple things?

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On this, I was curious on this case loader repair.

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Do we do we use Petros quite a bit or we've started using him lately lately quite a bit. Yes. Okay. I just was was was that right that the labor was 8,000.

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Mm-hm. Yes.

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I'm in the right. I'm in the wrong business. Okay. Yes. The lot of the the bucket on the front and the arms for the bucket were damaged. Okay. A lot of.

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I thought it was like 4,000 parts, 8,000.

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Okay.

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I have a follow-up question about those.

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Did that go to bid?

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Did that go to bid?

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Yes.

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It did go to bid.

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We had another bid for close to 19,000 was the next closest.

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And you said it was the EPA's regulation that caused the increase.

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Extras.

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Yes, and what's our process to find out what those EPA regulations are so that they're included in the original bid?

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Can you so that they're included in what was the last part of that the original bid?

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Whatever whatever the the thing that they said needed to

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being done that caused

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$50,000 increase in the contract amount.

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Oh,

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Mr. Manager, because I wasn't done when she was asking that question.

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I think she's back on the mixing zone study, not the case loader repair.

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One, and two.

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Which I was going to see if was the summer one completed in past.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So now we're on the fall one.

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If you look at the attached, if you look at the attached update from Amidola, it tells

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you the task that they have, update, wanted to require.

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It's in their, it's in the, the proposal.

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And the reason I brought it up was thinking that yes, they won the bid, they came in lower.

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And then the EPA said that there's these other things that needed to be acquired, required,

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which caused them to say, hey, we need some more money for the contract.

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Instead of, after the fact, my thinking is, if we knew from the EPA on the front end what was acquired.

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We wouldn't have known from the EPA and the front end because these came in after the first study was done.

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They said, oh, by the way, we'd like to see this in the data next time.

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We'd like to see that in the data next time.

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And we had extensive discussions with them before the first mixing zone study started about everything that they wanted to see.

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This is not unusual with the EPA.

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I wouldn't be surprised that when the data for the second one gets turned in, they come back and say, oh, by the way, in the fall,

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All we'd like to see you do this and this and this and this.

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After the fact.

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Yeah.

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Mr. President.

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Yeah.

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Yes, Mr. Manager.

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Any paving updates?

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No.

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I think right now they're just finishing adjusting manholes.

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Okay.

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And we're pretty much going to be wrapped up with that.

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We had a meeting with UIC and the ODOT about Collins Boulevard.

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We're still waiting for some numbers.

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First they want to accelerate that project so that we can get asphalt down by the end of October, which could cost us a little bit more money, and there's extra sidewalk work that we would like to see done as well, but we're working out what is, what cost savings have been in the, in it right now and what other expenses to see where that's going to flush out, but we'd like to have asphalt down by the end of October, and then I think their contract is open until December.

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But obviously you can't pave once it gets that cold, so.

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Yeah, yeah, depending on whether an appellation grant, I mean because things are looking really good.

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Yeah, we're really close to being closed out.

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It looks like the materials we've been waiting for for the street lights on main avenue have come in.

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So it looks like later this week they're going to try to get all the street lights hooked up.

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We still have to put the signs in on the road.

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Not we, the company has put the signs in on the road, but that will be wrapping up soon and a lot, a lot of

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facade work is being done right now. It's really looking, it's really looking nice.

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You know, we had those, you know, because I'm sure, you know, we all got numerous calls and, you know, we just, I always tell people just, don't assume your neighbor, somebody has called it in, you know.

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Any time the power goes out, we ask that people report that on the Illuminati Company website so they know that their power is out. It's not just assumed. But, yeah, I mean, unfortunate to vehicle accents took out a lot of polls. We have some real concerns with the accident on Woodman.

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And I think they've pretty much identified a single source failure that took out the entire city.

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So we have some questions for them of what is going to be done so that, I mean, it's a, that's always been a dangerous curve there.

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Any events, something would happen again to the grid so that the entire city doesn't go out again when you have that.

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But, you know, that line goes from the Sanborn Road Substation east to the Jefferson Road Distribution and that, or Jefferson Avenue Distribution and then when it crosses Woodman, it goes north south and runs down into the city. So I believe that was a 33 K line there. So a ton of power on that poll. Those polls.

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Yeah, because I kept thinking, oh my gosh, if it was like thunder and lightning or they couldn't go up to fix it or whatever this could have been this could have been days, so, okay. Thank you.

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In Jim, my work, we're just talking about things which is good, you know, Main Street, we're doing all this upgrade, you know, and so forth.

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with, is there any contact, I'm sure there is, with JCI, because that

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curliable building, something has to happen with it, because, you know, we could

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fill every other storefront on Main Street, and it's still going to look like-

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Yeah, so we've had some discussions with them about plans.

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They do have it from what I understand listed right now with a realtor, but, you know, we're

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having discussions with them about what the future is going to be.

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You're trying to sell it now?

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I think so.

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Who's going on?

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Well, again, this was what really through the whole plan of that was when the state legislator,

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which they still haven't given an answer why they did this.

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You used to be able to put light tech funds on top of historic tax credits, which were,

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which worked wonders in downtowns like ours where you had historic buildings that you wanted to put housing in.

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And that's been the wave of what's been going on in all these downtowns.

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Apparently some state legislator didn't like the fact that these things were being stacked on top of each other to give developers an advantage to get housing in their own communities.

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And so they said you couldn't stack those two on each other, well that single handedly killed the Carlisle project.

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So they have lobbied, they had a lobbyist trying to get that changed and apparently there are some people instead of Ohio that didn't want to hear it.

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I mean, we wrote letters of support, you know, because that, even not just for the call out building, but the second and third floors of a lot of those buildings down there could have really helped.

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So we're watching that one really closely.

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Is it as best as free?

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Didn't they get the edge?

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So the beauty is a lot of grants have been received by them.

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So the buildings are pretty much cleaned out and we just took down the back portion of the concrete building through a grant through the land bank.

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So the site, whether it's to demolish the rest of it or to rebuild it, is pretty much a clean slate.

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But the numbers are just not jiving to make it profitable.

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Yeah, you got a one, yeah, yeah.

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All right, well, thank you.

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Is there anything else for the manager,

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finance director?

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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We still have the two items from the last session.

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Yes.

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That's Kerala and Sheldon's updated employment agreement and Shuritee-Bahn's.

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Okay.

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And the contract has reflect, reflects now a lot of the concerns that you had heard.

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And so there should be addressed and then the Shuritee-Bahn, I think we're on our second reading

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for that.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Mr. Kahn.

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Mr. Cooper.

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So Mr. President, I don't have, there's no new litigation, no new civil actions, no

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new huge forfeitures, things continue to move apace and municipal court when we have

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power.

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Speaking of which, a reminder to the citizens of the city of Ash to Bula, when there's no

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power, and you come to a stop light, a street light that's not on, it automatically becomes a four-way stop.

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Which means every car has to stop regardless of what lane you're in, and you have to wait your turn to go through.

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That doesn't mean you pass the car that stopped and fly by, I had that happen to me.

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It doesn't mean you pull in front of the car as you're trying to turn because you think you

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It's not that hard

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Stop the car. Yeah, so I have that

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The other thing I have is when you're riding a bicycle

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Thought we're dark clothes

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That's just bad planning on your part where something that people can see

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Mr. Timonier, you were going to say something about the laws.

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Mr. President, yes, just to piggyback on the solicitors comments.

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The other thing, when we have road clothes signs out and we have cones all the way across,

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don't get out of your car and move those cones and move those.

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I literally saw that happen on Lake Avenue where the poles were down, nobody was getting through.

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So I got out of their car, moved cones to try to go down Lake Avenue where it said, clearly said road clothes.

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I mean, it means you as well, it's not just there for certain people, it's not a suggestion.

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And Mr. President, I was asked at the last meeting or at some point, maybe in an email

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to do some research, so just some basic information on official bonds.

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And the cost of an official bond on average for a $10,000 bond is between $250,000 and $500.00.

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A $100,000 bond is between $2,500 and $5,000.

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It depends on a lot of factors, so you have to actually go through the application process to get a final answer.

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But those fees are paid by the city, so there's that.

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I also tried to do some comparison research in terms of how much other municipalities have requirements for their fiscal officer.

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That is a task harder than you would think, because nobody collects that data.

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So you have to go either look at each city's ordinances or look at their audits that might have it, and that just was not working well.

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So, I went to the Ohio revised code and the next highest political subdivision that does have requirements for their fiscal officers in the code is a township.

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And assuming our budget is generally about $6 million, maybe a little more,

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just the entire budget.

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Okay, so then if we were a township with a budget more than $10 million, the fiscal officer would have to have a bond of $220,000.

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So just for comparison purposes, that's what other, what townships in the state require of their fiscal

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officers. Again, just for informational purposes, we're not a township. I understand that, but

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anyway. Thank you, Mr. Conn. Yes, thank you, Mr. President, and thank you, Ms. Cooper.

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We also did some research on this subject.

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It's true that those amounts exist, but

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municipalities don't usually follow them, because surety bonds are required by the Ohio

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by the vice code, but the amount of security bonds is determined by the legislative authority.

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So from my conversations with other finance directors, I'm not the only one who feels

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uncomfortable with this amount being personally responsible for because the bonds are required

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by the Ohio revised code, there is a lot of professionals in the industry feel uncomfortable.

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Municipalities started buying an additional insurance that can replace or reduce that bond.

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I believe it's allowed by the Ohio 42's office. There is only one type of insurance that can

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and replace surety bonds, not completely, but for public officials that are through the

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meat term, are eligible for transfers, some of that liability to that blanket additional

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coverage.

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So Mr. President, I would be curious if the finance director has bought an amount for other

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They're similarly situated municipalities in Asheville County or in the state as a whole

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since he's talked to other fiscal officers.

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Yes, so there is a counterpart in a different community who I talked to.

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Their chart dictates similar or close amounts, but they just don't follow it.

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They are covered by blanket bonds or additional coverage.

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So, basically, this is what I think happened here in the past.

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One of the finance directors had a bond of like $10,000 only, so that was what we found

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out from the high-revised code and what is eligible based on the State Auditor's Office.

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So should it, should it bonds can be replaced?

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With other insurance, as I said, no, no, I'm sorry, no, it's called faithful performance bonds.

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And it is something that is provided on the state level by certain organizations.

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But it's only available for certain elected officials.

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For instance, when I was at the prosecutor's office, I didn't have to post a bond.

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They had a faithful performance insurance through this state program.

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But I don't know that municipal finance directors are permitted to have a faithful performance insurance.

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And that would certainly not be consistent with our ordinances.

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Nor would I suggest that the city in any way shape or form not follow the charter because that puts us in a problem.

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If something were to happen, and we had to go to insurance and say we need repaid, well,

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okay, where's the faithful performant, the official bond that your ordinances say he

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has to have?

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We decided not to follow that.

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Well, you just wooded your insurance policy.

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Yeah.

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And may I add something?

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So I can only assume that it was not followed in the past when it was purchased for $10,000.

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So that's why we want to keep the process transparent and we want an official approval by the City Council to reduce it to $10,000 rather than not following the charter.

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And the policy that Ms. Cooper mentioned called actually employee dishonesty and faithful performance of duty coverage in conjunction with general property and liability insurance.

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That's a more comprehensive and administratively appropriate method of protection for the city,

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which I mentioned in my memo for our August FNP meeting.

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Okay.

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Mr. President.

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Yes.

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I'm just, I got to say, I'm getting a lot of this thrown at me here, that I did not do the

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research, and I'm very uncomfortable on voting on this today.

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Are you saying, Mr. Connett, if we don't have the bond, there is another bond that we can get?

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Is that what you said?

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Because this bond technically makes me personally reliable for the high cost of bond.

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I guess what your objection is to the one we have now, but what about, we have to be covered?

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can we get this other thing in place first and then drop the, the, the, the, the Sury.

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I mean, I think that that's something that we need to explore before we just,

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I mean,

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is this a, I mean, is this something that has to be done this month?

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I mean, I don't know.

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Is this an emergency?

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I, I really, I really think we need to reach the, the paper work on this new thing

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And before we just drop your bond, you know, Larry, based on what she just said about the townships,

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granted cities are different.

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I mean, there's a reason why they have that number of the cheap posts that is way more than we have now.

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I can email the old back up documentation for the additional coverage.

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You know, they will all shoot at the bonds.

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Mr. Conn, can I ask, so is it in charter or maybe for Miss Cooper that we, that the director must?

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But maybe the numbers not set. So because I didn't know something of this insurance versus a bond. So what is exactly? So that we ask that. So let me look at the charter real quick so that we make sure that we're. So we also don't waste time research something if it's something that's not in. In law to follow up on.

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Because generally you have to post the bond.

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Before or at the time you take office

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also good bonds the council shall fix by ordinance the salary and rate of compensation for all officers and

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Employees of the city entitled to compensation except as otherwise provided in the charter

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Temperate employees who shall receive such compensation

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Council may require any officer or employee to give a bond for the faithful performance of his duty in such an amount as it may

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determined, and it may provide that the premium thereof shall be paid by the city, which is

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pretty much consistent. That's consistent with Geneva's ordinances and some of the other

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chargers I looked at. Because we're a charter city, the statutes, the revised code will not

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provide us a number. That's simply by operation of law. There's no number. It's set by city

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council. So, if city council wants to look at what townships require who are

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similarly financially situated, you have the right to do that. The performance

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insurance, I want to say it's through the Council, the Association of County

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Commissioners. So, I'm going to have to look into that before I even know if we

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would qualify for it. But if we qualify for it, then no.

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I mean, well, so the only thing

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you would be able to do is you would have to remove the requirement that the fiscal

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officer provide a bond and instead allow him to provide insurance, which would then make

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Make the fiscal officer, what's the matter, that it says may require any officer or employee to give a bond for

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a fiscal performance of his duty.

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So they would have to remove the requirement that the fiscal officer provide a bond at all and

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instead allow for insurance, which then also takes the fiscal officer off the hook personally for

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Or anything other than crimes in office?

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Mr. Condo, do you know of any other fiscal officers that have that?

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So when she researches, is that she's going to find out that we're allowed to do it, right?

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Right, I talked to the previous finance director, who had her charity bond at $10,000.

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So she just recently changed her community.

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But she worked for Bowling Green and she mentioned that they also have a set amount in their charter but they don't follow it because they rely on blanket bonds and general liability property insurance.

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And did they say why?

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Why?

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Did they say why?

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Because a lot of professionals in the industry are not comfortable with being personally

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reliable for that.

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And when I talk to the bond agent, it's not only like direct like notorious financial crimes.

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It can be any findings for recovery by the state auditors.

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It can be as little as an invoice paid out of a wrong fund.

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And the bond agent told me that there has been a community here in Northease, Ohio,

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where the state audit is found out that an invoice was paid out of, let's say,

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enterprise fund instead of general fund.

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And they made, like the finance director who was on vacation at that time.

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and the payment was approved by someone else, but it was defined as director who was personally liable for

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embarrassing that amount.

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Just as history wise, 2008 was when the change was made to 100,000.

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We could not find much conversation in finance minutes or anything where it was discussed.

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But in 2008 is when that bond went up to 100,000 per ordinance.

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And then that also was before, that's when you still at an auditor's office and a

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Treasurer's office, so

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Ever since it was combined into the finance department

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There's still kind of some workiness there. You're on Mr. Timonier's 10,000 correct and Miss Cooper's is 10,000

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But if he also, yeah, I mean, I can't, so I mean, you can still be like, you know, somebody can still like come in, like sue you for something that happens at the court or that doesn't, that's different.

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That would not be covered by my mom.

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Yeah, so the bond is only like I think about Mr. Timonero.

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He handles a lot of money, a lot of different funds.

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We can't do anything over 10 grand, a lot of grants and so forth.

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We can't do anything over.

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I don't push the button to pay anybody.

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He doesn't have the authority to spend more than $10,000 at a time.

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So how about if we had approved that $50,000 thing

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had been approved by the voters?

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And I would strongly spur you to increase his bond to $50,000 so it maxed his spending on that.

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But at the same token, I still can't get to the money or go to the bank and

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take out a withdrawal or send a check that still comes out of the finance department.

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Mr. Conner, there's some other checks and balances for your role.

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Yes, thank you, thank you, Council Hallman.

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And one of Miss Cooper's concerns was that allegedly, with a click on my mouse, I can

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technically transfer $17 million anywhere, including overseas.

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However, that's technically not possible because any wire and ACH transaction requires two

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levels of approval.

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Even if I really wanted to do it unilaterally from my account, that wouldn't be possible because a second person needs to approve that.

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It's either assistant finance director, Carolyn Sheldon, or someone else who has also the same level of permissions in the online banking.

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And it's not possible for one person to transfer ACH or Y transfer with a click on my mouse.

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So they both work for the finance director and are trained by the finance director and

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are answerable to the finance director.

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So it's all self-contained in that department.

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I don't understand what the problem is if everybody is trained properly and there are all

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these checks and balances in place, why we're so worried about whether we'll have to enforce

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a $100,000 bond against a $30 million budget.

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As I mentioned earlier, only because there are examples that is bond agent brought to my

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attention. Technically, my position depends on seven people. If three people on the council

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decides to have a trigger, my surety bond is going to go through. So, because like, today

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we have one set of city council members, like in five years, they can be a different set

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of the City Council members, so technically I depend on, on

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selling people that my

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trigger the bond.

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I'm sorry, did you say that, maybe I misunderstood you, that three people on council could, why

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would we have anything to do with triggering the bond?

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If I'm not mistaken, it would be your, so if it was recognized that funds were missing

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or there was something done, it would be counseled that triggers the bond okay yeah but there

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would have to be you couldn't just say tomorrow we'd like to trigger the bond because we think

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something happened you'd have to have evidence that right there's been wrong doing we don't have

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access to that level of the books to know that if there was something going on you you would probably

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We have to launch an investigation to find that.

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Mr. President, the level of where the bond would be enforced,

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it invoked would be a finding on an audit that money was missing.

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A finding after a criminal investigation, that money was gone, and

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somebody was indicted, for instance, the assistant fire chief or whatever he is over in Geogga County.

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They're going to invoke his bond because they've indicted him.

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So there would be either an audit finding of significant issues or a criminal investigation

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that led to charges against somebody that would give you the authority to invoke the bond.

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So there would be an investigation by people waste-mortar with money and no more whole lot more

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accounting then I do for sure before it would even be recommended that you invoke the bond.

425
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:11,820
So based on my conversation with our bond agent it can be as simple as just like you know regular

426
00:41:11,820 --> 00:41:17,460
audit and finding out that like an invoice was paid from it from a different fund.

427
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,400
Well, Mr. President, I would personally would like a couple of things.

428
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:29,620
One, I would like some comparable bonds with other county people,

429
00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:33,960
specifically county on Geneva and probably Bill Jefferson.

430
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:44,200
And I also, I'd like to know if we qualify for this other thing before we go change in anything.

431
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,120
because I think that we need to be covered.

432
00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:53,020
And I agree with you, Mr. Conn, we're the ones that hired you, you're our guy, we're happy.

433
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:59,580
But future councils might not be, and that is an issue, but they have to renew your contract.

434
00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:02,320
I mean, if they don't like you, they're just going to non-renew you.

435
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:10,700
I just, we do need to be covered, though, until we vote on this, I think.

436
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:16,080
And then if we're voting on it, you know how long I'm going to have to vote until we figure that information out.

437
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:18,500
Mr. President.

438
00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:19,260
Yep.

439
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:35,700
Madam, so sir, I have a question and I want to make sure we're not comparing apples and oranges, but when you gave the number of 220,000 for the fiscal officer of the township, was there also numbers that you could share with us for comparable positions in the city.

440
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:48,460
No, like I said, nobody compiles a list of how much fiscal officers for a city or a village have to have in a bond.

441
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,340
There's no central location for that.

442
00:42:52,320 --> 00:43:02,400
So what I'm going to have to do is, and I tried looking just generally and it's not in any of the chargers, it's not in any of the ordinances I found online so far.

443
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:17,980
So I will reach out to the law director for Geneva, the law director for Conyon, the law director for Jefferson and see if they will send me their ordinances requiring bonds and how much those bond amounts are.

444
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:28,030
I can check with the villages as well if you'd like but those are the.

445
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:52,910
Just so we can have comparable information because sharing it's 220,000 for the fiscal agent and not knowing what it is for the other positions is kind of hard to make the same comparison because we already know the numbers for you all right and the difference and I will find out if they can tell me how much their budget is their total budget so I can make sure that we're comparing

446
00:43:55,090 --> 00:44:03,710
Comparables, yes, ma'am, because like I said, the most comparable I can find was the township, but I understand what you're saying.

447
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:04,690
Mr. President.

448
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:05,250
Yes.

449
00:44:05,530 --> 00:44:12,710
So are we also investigating the cost of this insurance and what that cover coverage is compared to?

450
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:20,130
I'll need to know how it would replace the bond and then to ask those questions of the insurance company.

451
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:28,010
Okay, how that works to see if there could actually be a savings that way for, I mean, I have no idea.

452
00:44:28,750 --> 00:44:38,830
Okay, so when we get to those items on the agenda, we can table them because they're up for a second reading.

453
00:44:39,130 --> 00:44:44,470
So we will just, when we get to those two items, we could table them and then deal with them at the next meeting.

454
00:44:51,070 --> 00:44:53,810
Okay, Ms. Milberg, do you have anything for us this evening?

455
00:44:54,410 --> 00:44:55,710
I don't have anything, Mr. President.

456
00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:56,210
Thank you.

457
00:44:56,930 --> 00:44:59,910
Community development and economic development, I believe.

458
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:30,540
Tell us something we don't know. Thank you. Finance and personnel, we did have a meeting on Friday. I do have a very brief report, and it is here. Okay. Very briefly. Finance and personnel, the committee met. It was a small meeting short meeting. Basically, we discussed, for the month of August,

459
00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:54,780
I guess we collected $678,000 in income tax, which is $8,000 more than we have the previous year and there have been the auditor, the Attorney General's Office is anticipating in excess of $350,000 in their efforts to collect other taxes that are due to this city.

460
00:45:54,780 --> 00:46:07,020
So those are certainly good things, everything else seems to be doing well, we are still waiting

461
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:09,460
on our second half taxes from the county.

462
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,500
This is very late, you know, we're in September, almost October.

463
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:21,380
And so that is because we haven't received our taxes from the county, we are still dealing

464
00:46:21,380 --> 00:46:34,220
The following was some deficits on certain line items in anticipating these funds to be reconciled once that money is given to us.

465
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:41,280
They are working on, at this time of the year, they start working on the 2027 budget.

466
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:50,700
There was a caveat that our funds are going down between our fund 101 decline

467
00:46:50,700 --> 00:47:00,280
from $6 million to $4 million between 2025 and 26, and next year the preliminary budget shows even a greater decline.

468
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:09,840
So we need to be very careful about the money we have on reserve and the money that we will be spending.

469
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,800
So things are going to be getting tighter.

470
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,120
So we need to be aware that we also are aware of what's happening.

471
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,680
with the national economy, things, you know, interest rates are going up, the economy is

472
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,480
slowing down and so we don't know how that will impact us either.

473
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:36,640
But other than that, we, I think we did pretty good, there was not much else discussed.

474
00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:46,840
We are moving along, we are, you know, reconciling the sanitation fund, the paving fund and so

475
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,620
forth. Like I said, a lot of those need to wait until we get our county money.

476
00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:57,000
Other than that, we will meet again on October 16th at 8.30.

477
00:47:58,890 --> 00:48:01,910
Thank you. Public works.

478
00:48:03,630 --> 00:48:05,790
Yes, thank you, Mr. President.

479
00:48:06,030 --> 00:48:09,650
We're going to meet, strange how this worked out, but

480
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:11,870
tomorrow morning here at 8.30 AM.

481
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:12,810
Okay.

482
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,380
And then safety forces.

483
00:48:17,380 --> 00:48:39,770
Yes, Mr. President, I do have a report, the meeting was September 10th, and Chief Stell from the Asheville Police Department reported that August statistics were consistent with typical seasonal patterns.

484
00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:46,710
And July was really busy, August kind of settled down to normal service calls.

485
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:58,830
He did note that the detectives made several significant arrests apprehending the three to four people believed to be responsible for a large amount of the criminal activity in the city, including several auto thefts.

486
00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:05,430
I asked about the status of the previously discussed traffic enforcement detachment.

487
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:12,670
and chief still confirmed that the unit had been delayed due to staffing shortages over the summer.

488
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:17,890
But with overtime costs, it wasn't going real smooth.

489
00:49:18,370 --> 00:49:25,230
But now with vacations tapering down, the units are on track to begin operating this month, which I'm sure they are.

490
00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:39,260
And chief canon of the fire department continues to tell us that there's an upward trend of prior to the last three years.

491
00:49:39,260 --> 00:49:45,100
on their service calls, but most of those are EMS calls, and we do receive compensation for those.

492
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:58,260
He also reported that the newly hired firefighter has completed probably four or five shifts by now, and it's performing well, and he brings to the Fire Department to full staff.

493
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:07,300
And we're going to be sending some people to Chicago to, I'm assuming they already went, is that true, Mr.

494
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,720
Mr. Manager, to this great late term firefighting task force.

495
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,840
I think,

496
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,740
I want to say it might have started today as a matter of fact.

497
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:30,060
So as we speak to there, and the emphasis on this training is passenger cruise ship fire scenarios,

498
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,580
which should come in handy if we start getting this cruise ship coming to Azure Bill at any time.

499
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:36,280
So, that would be great.

500
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:45,020
We have, under the City Manager's report, two candidates pass the police civil service

501
00:50:45,020 --> 00:50:49,640
examination and are currently enrolled in the police academy and we're expecting them

502
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,640
to be done in 10 to 11 months in which case they'll have to train with us.

503
00:50:56,380 --> 00:51:04,240
But we do have a couple of people lined up and the good news is that on September 29th,

504
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:11,260
the city manager and several fire department staff are going to travel to the manufacturer to inspect the progress of the new ladder truck,

505
00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:19,670
which is supposed to be 65 to 70% completed by maybe even a little more now, that was at the time of the meeting.

506
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:29,750
And the delivery remains on track for October, so everybody obviously in the safety forces committee is excited about that because we've been

507
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:37,210
agreed diligently for the new truck and with that in mind, everything else seems to be going normal.

508
00:51:37,610 --> 00:51:38,790
We don't have any equipment issues.

509
00:51:39,610 --> 00:51:47,330
We did get a grant from molded fiberglass for new fire department radios, which I think we're voting on tonight.

510
00:51:47,330 --> 00:51:52,890
Is that what we're voting on to accept that and everything else is running smooth.

511
00:51:53,950 --> 00:51:54,450
Thank you.

512
00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:56,490
Thank you, Mr. Grerole.

513
00:51:58,470 --> 00:52:09,330
Mr. Clerk, have you had much conversation around use of our bike lanes or parking of motorcycles

514
00:52:09,330 --> 00:52:11,070
or bikes on sidewalks?

515
00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:15,290
I had conversations.

516
00:52:15,590 --> 00:52:17,270
I'm wondering if you all have had conversations.

517
00:52:17,350 --> 00:52:20,290
Oh no, not at the safety forces, meaning we did not.

518
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:20,550
No.

519
00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:21,110
Okay.

520
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:24,470
Okay, so some of this dubpails with your report, Ms. Cooper.

521
00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:35,630
The bike lanes, Mr. Timner, where is some literature on that?

522
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:42,290
Because I've gotten a couple of complaints that vehicles are actually traveling on the bike lanes while bikers are riding.

523
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:46,210
So the only bike lane that we have dedicated is West Avenue?

524
00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:50,070
Yep, okay, no, they should not be riding on that.

525
00:52:50,070 --> 00:52:59,270
But it's actually the Metro Parks, the Asheville County Metro Parks that has a map of that on their website of the bike lane, the bike path.

526
00:52:59,490 --> 00:53:11,530
So I'm wondering how we can better communicate to our motorists that whether they like it or not, the bikers do have it the right way and can bike and we want everyone to be safe.

527
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:17,270
And I know we have paint as a demarcation, but I'm just sort of wondering how we can ensure.

528
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:30,910
Yeah, I mean it would be enforcement of seeing anything like that out there, of person right there, with the amount of rhetoric in the community about the bike lane, I don't think anybody doesn't know it's there.

529
00:53:32,110 --> 00:53:43,830
There are also groups ground into the concrete and the asphalt that if you go over it, I mean you know you are now into the bike lane.

530
00:53:44,570 --> 00:53:53,800
So, you know, barring, putting up a wall all the way down West Avenue, you know, the

531
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,380
pains out there, the rumble strips are out there, actually I think there's two sets

532
00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:00,360
of rumble strips that you hit.

533
00:54:03,530 --> 00:54:07,310
Is that something our police enforce that they see car vehicles in it?

534
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:08,490
Absolutely, yes.

535
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:16,530
And the other question is, I'm wondering how I can better communicate either in my

536
00:54:16,530 --> 00:54:21,130
That parking is not allowed on the sidewalks for motorcycles and things like that.

537
00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:27,150
We get a lot of front yard parking, parking on tree lawns, parking on sidewalks.

538
00:54:27,630 --> 00:54:34,530
The best thing to do is to call the non-emergency line at the police department so that they can go and address it.

539
00:54:35,490 --> 00:54:39,710
A lot of times, emailing or calling the council person and the council person emailing or

540
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:43,290
go calling me, by the time it's seen and all those different things,

541
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:45,870
the potential for that person to be gone.

542
00:54:46,590 --> 00:54:51,430
It's a much easier to call the non-emergency line at the police department and say,

543
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:55,190
hey, there's a motorcycle or a car parked on XYZ at this address.

544
00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:57,450
They can then go there and address it.

545
00:54:58,110 --> 00:54:59,850
It is something we address frequently.

546
00:55:00,670 --> 00:55:04,230
So yes, no, you have to park on an approved surface,

547
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:08,210
meaning a driveway that has concrete asphalt or a gravel.

548
00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:13,630
You cannot park on your front lawn, you cannot park on your tree lawn, and you cannot park on the sidewalk.

549
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:22,050
And most of the time when we go enforce it, we get, it's my property, I'll do whatever I want with it.

550
00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:24,830
Kind of things, and eventually if it's still there, we tell it.

551
00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:33,320
Are there any friendly reminder postcards or something that we could-

552
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:41,100
No, I say that towing in the worst case scenario, but nine times out of time when we approach and say, look, you can't do this, they will move the vehicle.

553
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:47,280
There are people that habitually do it, and that's when we start the heavier enforcement.

554
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:55,140
And without having to get it escalated, are there just some paper, literature or postcards or something, because I'd be happy to do it.

555
00:55:55,140 --> 00:56:00,560
A lot of time is, well, when we see it, it's knock on the door and say, hey, look, you can't do this, would you mind moving the vehicle?

556
00:56:02,140 --> 00:56:09,500
Yeah, what I'm saying is there's something simpler than calling our police officers out.

557
00:56:09,940 --> 00:56:18,100
Yeah, I mean unless they just wanted to go next door and say, hey, you're not supposed to do that, which I don't think they're going to do.

558
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,380
I think it's easier if they call us and let us handle it.

559
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:25,500
And like I said, we will, we're not going to come down with a hammer.

560
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,360
First time we're at somebody's place.

561
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,500
We typically just ask, hey, would you mind moving it?

562
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,840
But if it's something habitual, then yes, they can be cited or the vehicle can be towed.

563
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:41,520
Again, I just think some folks just don't know or just aren't aware, and sometimes a friendly reminder will go a long way.

564
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:46,190
Okay, thank you.

565
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:50,090
There are two other reports of the Planning Commission.

566
00:56:50,290 --> 00:56:59,990
They are scheduled to meet October 1st, and I think they're having a combined meeting for September and October 1st.

567
00:57:00,290 --> 00:57:03,710
I haven't received the agenda yet, but I believe there's a couple items.

568
00:57:03,710 --> 00:57:08,850
the Historic Preservation Committee last, or two weeks ago,

569
00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:10,450
losing track the time.

570
00:57:10,810 --> 00:57:17,330
Well, yeah, and they approved another townhouse duplex,

571
00:57:17,330 --> 00:57:21,210
whatever they're called, for West,

572
00:57:22,310 --> 00:57:25,970
third in Franklin Avenue in the harbor.

573
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:29,790
So there will be another townhouse being built in that area.

574
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:31,770
The ones they built on Fort Street

575
00:57:31,770 --> 00:57:39,990
have been rented and sold, rented, and so they're going to continue on, as long as I guess they see a need for that.

576
00:57:41,090 --> 00:57:49,110
So they'll be, that was approved once again, the two builders work very well with the architectural review board.

577
00:57:49,550 --> 00:57:57,290
They go back and forth, they have concern, we don't want these windows this or that, so there's some cooperation going on there.

578
00:57:57,290 --> 00:58:04,310
And then the only other thing, they approved the demolition of an old house on West Third Street, that is beyond repair.

579
00:58:04,930 --> 00:58:12,490
So okay, we are like two minutes from our regular council meeting.

580
00:58:12,690 --> 00:58:26,370
So what we will do is we will start our council meeting and then, before we approve the agenda, we will do, we have three items to finish, new business, old business.

581
00:58:26,370 --> 00:58:29,430
this in council ideas for the good of the order.

582
00:58:29,630 --> 00:58:37,710
We will come back to those after we begin our regular council meeting, and then we will

583
00:58:37,710 --> 00:58:44,550
do the approving of the agenda and then go on with our business, okay?

584
00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:47,890
So I think we have one or two minutes to go there.

585
00:58:47,890 --> 00:58:48,590
The

586
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:54,820
mics are on.

587
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:53,020
I'm gonna make it work.

588
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,780
I'm gonna make it work.

589
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,200
Oh, and then people, look through them like at the lake.

590
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,200
We

591
01:00:56,190 --> 01:01:03,350
are going to call the regular meeting for the City Council of Ashe de Buella to order.

592
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:06,870
Today is Monday September 21st, 2026.

593
01:01:07,610 --> 01:01:11,990
At this time, if you would please, this comment, you have the prayer and the pledge.

594
01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:16,170
If you would please stand for the prayer and the pledge.

595
01:01:16,170 --> 01:01:17,150
Heavenly

596
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:29,760
Father, we ask you to let your inspiration proceed this council's actions and all present

597
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:36,840
here today and your assistance further us so that every word and work of ours may take its

598
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:47,180
beginning from you and so begun may through you reach its completion. Amen. I pledge allegiance to

599
01:01:47,180 --> 01:01:54,220
the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation

600
01:01:54,220 --> 01:01:59,180
under God and indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

601
01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:04,280
Thank you.

602
01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:07,540
Miss Milberg, would you call the role?

603
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,060
Ms. Holman.

604
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:09,740
President.

605
01:02:10,180 --> 01:02:10,660
Mrs. Mills.

606
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:11,300
Here.

607
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,760
Mrs. DiJacamo.

608
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:15,160
Mr. Dakota.

609
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:18,100
Mr. Guerrero.

610
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:27,180
here. Mr. Cimeone, here. Mr. Rosquivitz, here. Mr. Timineer, here. Mr. Cooper, here. Mr. Khan.

611
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:30,620
He's here.

612
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:38,400
May I have a motion to excuse Mr. DiJacamo from tonight's meeting?

613
01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:39,280
Second.

614
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:47,780
Ms. Holman moves, Mr. Guerrero seconds. Any discussion? All in favor?

615
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,620
All opposed, she will be excused by a five to zero vote.

616
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,320
May I have a motion to excuse Mr. Decola from tonight's meeting?

617
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:57,800
So moved.

618
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,200
Second.

619
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:04,140
Second by Mrs. Mills, motion by Ms. Holman, any discussion?

620
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:05,820
All in favor?

621
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:06,780
Aye.

622
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,620
All opposed, he will be excused by a five to zero vote.

623
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:12,280
Thank you.

624
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,600
We are doing our sunshine law requirements.

625
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,380
Okay, before we read the legislation, we will go back to our pre-console agenda.

626
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,380
Is there any discussion of new business or proposed legislation?

627
01:03:25,820 --> 01:03:26,760
Mr. President?

628
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,160
Yes.

629
01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:33,300
I wanted to bring up back discussing the cell phones for counselors.

630
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:41,080
So, not sure in the process, but I did email the solicitor's office.

631
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:48,000
And I did talk with the finance director and the clerk and I did email the city manager.

632
01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:54,500
So, I know that there has to be an ordinance and there would have to be a policy.

633
01:03:55,060 --> 01:04:05,530
I didn't know if, do we need to start by going back to finance and

634
01:04:05,530 --> 01:04:15,670
a person now for like going through a policy or like, I'm not sure where what direction that might need to go first.

635
01:04:18,340 --> 01:04:30,680
The idea has been, the idea has surfaced on a couple of occasions, but I don't think we've ever had actual like legislation to look at.

636
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,460
So maybe the thing would be to have legislation drawn up for

637
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:40,440
for the next Finance and Personnel Committee, and then from there it would come to the full council.

638
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:44,420
Does that sound appropriate, Ms. Cooper?

639
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:45,320
Yes, sir.

640
01:04:45,840 --> 01:05:03,420
Okay, so Mrs. Mills, we will put that on the agenda for the Finance and Personnel Committee meeting on October 16th, whatever that of October 16th, I think it is.

641
01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:05,140
Yes, yes, is that okay?

642
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:17,140
And then at that time, I believe you have already requested from the solicitors office that legislation being drawn up regarding that.

643
01:05:17,340 --> 01:05:24,180
And then at that time there should be able to have some financial data included with that.

644
01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:50,500
Yes, and she was looking at a policy as well, but she kind of wanted to do work on the legislation first because it could be something could be incorporated in the budget since we're in that span and it would go through the council budget because it's not like it's an emergency that something has to be done right now to where you're going to pull this from.

645
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:59,080
You know, gather the data if it went on the budget and we'd vote on it and then have a policy, so it kind of

646
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,200
Streamline through the process

647
01:06:04,180 --> 01:06:06,340
Okay, so we will add that to our

648
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:13,860
Miss Milberg, where you do that added to our next month agenda finance and personnel. Thank you

649
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,380
Ordnance regarding cell phones. Mr. President. Yes

650
01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:27,860
For those folks who have been attending meetings know that I have brought this up since the very beginning of my council tenure.

651
01:06:29,140 --> 01:06:44,220
And I've also always wondered why was it so, why has it been so difficult to understand that counselors who have to conduct city business should have a city phone.

652
01:06:44,220 --> 01:06:54,580
And then it was brought to my attention, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Madame Solicitor, that administrators currently have cell phones through the city.

653
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:01,760
I know that I have a cell phone through the city, but I'm on call 24-7 for the police department.

654
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:08,300
So do all administrators, and maybe you're not the one to ask for the question, Mr. Timner, do all administrators-

655
01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:09,140
Not all do, no.

656
01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:20,060
So is there currently a policy already in place for when folks get a city device?

657
01:07:21,220 --> 01:07:29,180
My policy with employees will be different than what you guys want to develop for yourselves.

658
01:07:31,390 --> 01:07:32,310
And why is that?

659
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:40,030
Because you are legislators and you're determining your policy for your council and I'm in charge

660
01:07:40,030 --> 01:07:45,970
the administrative range of it, so we have, we will have our policies for those different

661
01:07:45,970 --> 01:07:46,530
types of things.

662
01:07:47,590 --> 01:07:56,170
So Madam Solister, is it council who offers any ideas or suggestions or questions before

663
01:07:56,170 --> 01:08:01,350
that policy is put in place, or do you go ahead and drive one based upon your legal expertise

664
01:08:01,350 --> 01:08:04,190
and then bring it to council and then we provide feedback?

665
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:11,970
back. So I think Catherine is working on a policy right now based on her experience at

666
01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:18,330
the county and what experience she has here in the city. My personal policy is unless

667
01:08:18,330 --> 01:08:25,670
it's work related or a dire emergency. I don't use my work phone. There have been occasions

668
01:08:25,670 --> 01:08:30,790
where I've had to use my work phone like I stupidly left myself out of the car last week and

669
01:08:30,790 --> 01:08:36,530
my phone was in the car, so I had to use my work phone to call for a key, but other

670
01:08:36,530 --> 01:08:44,770
than that kind of emergency, the only e-mails or calls or text messages on my work phone

671
01:08:44,770 --> 01:08:45,650
are work related.

672
01:08:46,410 --> 01:08:47,130
Of course.

673
01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:49,910
So would there be similarities drawn up?

674
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:51,970
I would think it would be very similar to that, yes.

675
01:08:52,510 --> 01:08:53,930
That might expedite the process.

676
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:54,650
Thank you.

677
01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:55,270
Thank you.

678
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:05,420
Well, I was going to ask if ordering pizza would qualify, but I know that you brought it up, but I wasn't going to frame that.

679
01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:08,120
Yeah, I get it. You should have.

680
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:15,600
Unless you're working late and you're getting it for your fellow council or committee members, then sure.

681
01:09:17,340 --> 01:09:25,100
But the other thing to remember is that anything on the work cell phone is subject to public record.

682
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:35,300
So, that kind of edits yourself when you know anything on your cell phone can be seen by anybody in the universe.

683
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:38,340
Thank you.

684
01:09:39,540 --> 01:09:45,200
In this moment, I think it'll be pretty simple, and then Council can look at it.

685
01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:53,100
They think something needs to be fine tuned or tweaked, and it's in the realm that Catherine says, but then it'll be.

686
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:59,940
And it could be that maybe somebody wants to keep using their landline or their personal cell,

687
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:07,960
but we'd like to budget seven phones, but I'm thinking maybe not everybody wants to use one,

688
01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:14,620
but I think for ease of records reviews or anything like that, it's nice to keep business on one,

689
01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:18,080
and pleasure on the other, and then it's just simple.

690
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:27,160
and then when we're done and we're not employed here anymore that you turn it back in for the next set of councillors.

691
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:35,220
I mean I personally if we're going to go that route I think that whatever the city issue phone should be your phone.

692
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:43,280
I don't think it should be an option like I want to keep my I want to keep my old number in play.

693
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:49,640
If we go to city-issued phones, I think that that should be your city-issued number.

694
01:10:51,220 --> 01:10:54,420
Well, that could be a conversation as well.

695
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:02,380
I personally think everybody should have that separate number, but and it makes it easier

696
01:11:02,380 --> 01:11:05,480
if somebody wants a review than just here's one of my phone calls.

697
01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:10,180
Well, yeah, you would have your own phone number, but they all might be one digit apart.

698
01:11:14,020 --> 01:11:15,720
So it's a good start.

699
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,700
Okay, let's go on to our next item.

700
01:11:30,370 --> 01:11:30,970
Anything else?

701
01:11:31,690 --> 01:11:34,650
Any old business or legislation for second reading?

702
01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:40,630
I believe we have a couple items on, I'm sorry, okay.

703
01:11:43,580 --> 01:11:45,780
Yeah, we're still finishing up the pre-council.

704
01:11:47,740 --> 01:11:52,760
We have a couple items for second reading, and I believe the, after some discussion,

705
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,080
We may be tabling those.

706
01:11:54,980 --> 01:11:57,300
Is there any discussion for the good of the order?

707
01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:06,980
Okay, seeing none, we will go to our regular council agenda at this time.

708
01:12:07,500 --> 01:12:10,260
Ms. Milberg, will you read us tonight's legislation?

709
01:12:12,060 --> 01:12:25,140
Ordnance number 2026-159 in ordinance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with northeastern communications to purchase portable radios and related equipment for the Asheville Fire Department.

710
01:12:26,540 --> 01:12:42,360
Ordnance number 2026-160 in ordinance authorizing the city manager to amend the contract with Amindola engineering for mixing zone studies and other necessary work related to the relocation of outfall 001.

711
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:53,340
Ordnance number 2026-161 in ordinance authorizing the city manager to dispose of obsolete and unneeded vehicles round 4.

712
01:12:54,660 --> 01:13:08,840
Ordinance number 2026-162 in ordinance authorizing the finance director to enter into an emergency individual employment agreement with Ms. Carolyn Sheldon commencing on September 1st, 2026.

713
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:25,660
Ordinance number 2026-163 in ordinance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Petro's services LLC to repair a 512G case loader for

714
01:13:25,660 --> 01:13:26,760
for the Public Works Department.

715
01:13:28,260 --> 01:13:32,780
And for second reading, ordinance number 2026-155,

716
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,200
an ordinance repealing,

717
01:13:34,380 --> 01:13:37,300
as to be a lacotified ordinance 131.02

718
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,040
for the purpose of enacting replacement legislation.

719
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:44,040
Ordinance number 2026-156,

720
01:13:44,220 --> 01:13:49,040
an ordinance enacting replacement codified ordinance section 131.02.

721
01:13:50,540 --> 01:13:51,760
Thank you, Ms. Milberg.

722
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:58,560
And if you also note at this time, at the end of the meeting, we will have a voice vote to return.

723
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,960
Ordinance, 2026158 to the Planning Commission to review the recommended changes.

724
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:08,980
That'll use to be a voice vote.

725
01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:10,440
Okay.

726
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,640
Do you have a question?

727
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,680
Okay, let's have a motion in a second.

728
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,260
And I will move we accept the order of tonight's agenda.

729
01:14:22,620 --> 01:14:23,520
So moved.

730
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:24,460
Second.

731
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,660
And we have a motion by Ms. Holman and a second by Mrs. Mills.

732
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,640
Okay, now you have a question, please.

733
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:38,280
Yes, ordinance 2026-162, the contract is commence September 1.

734
01:14:38,980 --> 01:14:43,060
Has she also started the work, already started the work without assigned contract?

735
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:56,310
Mr. President, I believe that your last meeting didn't you guys do a voice vote

736
01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:59,910
to authorize the, yeah, for P until the contract can be done.

737
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,460
Until the payment, yes. Ordinance, 2026159. What is the cost of those portable radios and related equipment for the Asheville Fire Department?

738
01:15:12,980 --> 01:15:23,720
That is listed in the ordinance. 16,830, 64 cents. And that is a state purchasing contract. That's in the ordinance.

739
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:34,290
It covers, it covers the entire cost. The grant covers the entire cost, yes.

740
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:41,410
Okay, so we have a motion to accept the agenda.

741
01:15:41,810 --> 01:15:43,550
Mr. President, just a question.

742
01:15:43,950 --> 01:15:46,950
Are you guys tabling 155 and 156?

743
01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:49,190
I believe we are when we get there.

744
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:52,270
So you're just going to do it during the-

745
01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:54,270
When we get to the second round.

746
01:15:59,190 --> 01:16:00,890
Okay, any other questions?

747
01:16:01,330 --> 01:16:03,290
All in favor of approving the agenda?

748
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:04,510
Aye.

749
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:06,110
Anyone opposed?

750
01:16:06,110 --> 01:16:09,370
We will approve the agenda by a five to zero vote.

751
01:16:09,630 --> 01:16:14,730
There are no special items, I believe, no communications.

752
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:22,530
So at this time, we will hear from the citizen comments in community comments.

753
01:16:23,450 --> 01:16:29,290
Just approach the podium, state your name, address, and remember we allow you five minutes.

754
01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:33,800
My name is Michael Wagner.

755
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:35,680
I'm ward 4.

756
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,880
When do we get the recycle business committed?

757
01:16:39,260 --> 01:16:40,540
Do you know how soon?

758
01:16:42,460 --> 01:16:47,500
Mr. President, so it looks like we could even take the delivery by the end of this month, September.

759
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:54,000
The county is working on the distribution plan, trying to find a contractor that's going to help us distribute them to the communities.

760
01:16:54,500 --> 01:16:57,300
So I would hope by the end of October we'll have everything delivered.

761
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:58,540
Thank you.

762
01:16:58,540 --> 01:17:00,560
Thank you, sir.

763
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:12,730
Mr. Timoneer, even though we may not have a clear plan for the rollout yet, if residents choose not to.

764
01:17:13,150 --> 01:17:15,270
There is no choice to not participate.

765
01:17:15,770 --> 01:17:26,070
We did not have that choice for the first area, and we do not have the staff at the time to say who's doing what and to have different pickups everywhere.

766
01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:27,090
Scrooge,

767
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,700
I think you have my address.

768
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:40,200
I want to first of all thank the manager for paving that concrete that rolled down by

769
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:41,140
the country club.

770
01:17:41,860 --> 01:17:45,960
A lot of people are very happy because the older people do roll up and down that road

771
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:47,720
and they're very happy.

772
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,860
This is a FYI as a citizen.

773
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:58,300
Last month, excuse me, last meeting, I came to hear about a program at 5 o'clock.

774
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:05,260
When I got here, there was some type of best, like I said, just misunderstanding between

775
01:18:05,260 --> 01:18:06,620
two counsel persons.

776
01:18:07,300 --> 01:18:16,160
It took 10 minutes of our time going through whatever the disagreement was, and I felt as

777
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,160
a citizen, I really don't need to know that.

778
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:28,060
That I came up here to hear about some of the programs and some of the pros and cons of this program that we're trying to get ahead.

779
01:18:28,860 --> 01:18:30,380
No having communities commission.

780
01:18:30,460 --> 01:18:43,480
Thank you that one and I really didn't get a understanding because there was some type of misunderstanding and we had a letter read and a phone read and this is not the place for that.

781
01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:51,540
I feel this is not the place we're citizens don't have to know if you guys have a misunderstanding as councilmen and women

782
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,360
Take it behind the doors and it's you know hash it out there. We don't have to know

783
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:03,160
It I'm sorry. Yeah, we can't do that. Mrs. Cruz our work. Our work has to be conducted in public

784
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,280
We can't do it on the computer

785
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:13,140
We if the councilor wants to say something to another it has to be done at a public meeting

786
01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:20,880
So that's why that happens and I appreciate that but you give us five minutes to ask our questions, but they can go on for ten minutes

787
01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:28,740
Well, I'll just ask them questions. Yes. Well, yeah, the a work session. That was a work session work sessions are designed for counselors

788
01:19:29,210 --> 01:19:33,140
To to find out more information about something that's coming up

789
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,500
Sometimes you may notice that work sessions. We don't allow public comments

790
01:19:38,220 --> 01:19:42,800
Because it's important for the counselors to find out everything they need to know

791
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:50,440
So the meeting you were talking about was scheduled for an hour, and there was allowed

792
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:51,320
public comments.

793
01:19:51,940 --> 01:19:58,840
So that's, you know, we felt that was the people requesting the meeting wanted public

794
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,920
comments, and they wanted an hour and time, so that's why that occurred.

795
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:04,160
That's why that was organized that way.

796
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:09,920
Thank you for your opinion, and as a citizen, I didn't feel we had enough time to cough

797
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,100
at the end when everything was said and done.

798
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:14,780
I came up here to find out what it's all about.

799
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,860
What your disagreements were.

800
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:18,680
By the time we went to the end,

801
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,040
you said two minutes and so we were pretty much checked out.

802
01:20:22,580 --> 01:20:23,840
All right, thank you, Mr. Good.

803
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,420
Anyone else who would like to address council at this time?

804
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,760
Steve Chase, Ward one.

805
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,220
So all seven council members received an email from me

806
01:20:36,220 --> 01:20:37,020
about 10 days ago.

807
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,540
Mr. Jocomo, who's not here,

808
01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:41,060
is the only one who actually responded

809
01:20:41,060 --> 01:20:47,040
to the email. Subsequent to that last Friday I reached out to every single one of you via phone,

810
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,880
and I received phone calls back from four people. So there's two members of council that failed

811
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:58,580
to respond to either an email or a phone call from a constituent. One of them is not here tonight.

812
01:20:58,900 --> 01:21:04,960
The other one is Russell Simioni. So my question is and my question to Mr. Dakota was going to be,

813
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:10,560
both of you are up next year for a real action. If you're not going to respond to emails,

814
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,820
You're not going to respond to phone calls and have a conversation with your constituents.

815
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,060
Why should your constituents vote for you?

816
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:22,660
You're paid, albeit very little, and you receive health insurance from the city.

817
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,500
And you've agreed to represent the citizens of the city.

818
01:21:25,900 --> 01:21:28,300
But if you don't return phone calls and don't return emails,

819
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,580
how can you say you're representing the residents of the city of Ashland?

820
01:21:32,660 --> 01:21:35,220
All you're doing is sitting up here taking up space.

821
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:36,720
Thank you.

822
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,340
Thank you, Mr. Chase.

823
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,000
Any one else who would like to address council at this time?

824
01:21:44,250 --> 01:21:51,570
Seeing no one, Councillor commons, liaisons, reports, meeting announcements, I don't believe we have any of that.

825
01:21:53,290 --> 01:21:55,510
We will go on with the approval of our minutes.

826
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:03,680
September 8th, 2026, work session was called to order at 5 p.m. by President Roskivix.

827
01:22:03,980 --> 01:22:10,800
President Mr. Roskivix, Mr. Simeone, Mr. Dakota, Mr. Guerrero, Mrs. Mills, Mrs. Holman, Mrs. DiJacamo.

828
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:18,800
So, officers present, City Manager Timoneer, City Solicitor Cooper, and Clerk of Council Milberg, absent Finance Director Conn.

829
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,900
May I have a motion to wave the reading of the work session minutes?

830
01:22:25,870 --> 01:22:26,630
I'll move.

831
01:22:26,990 --> 01:22:27,350
Second.

832
01:22:27,630 --> 01:22:30,610
Mr. Grillemuse, Mrs. Mills seconds, any discussion?

833
01:22:31,290 --> 01:22:32,430
I do have a comment.

834
01:22:33,010 --> 01:22:41,670
At the end of that work session, and I see it's indicated in the minutes of the public who gave comment,

835
01:22:41,670 --> 01:22:47,290
or questions. One of the individuals was not included in the minutes. I think her name

836
01:22:47,290 --> 01:22:52,990
is Margaret Disler and I just think that it should also be included.

837
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:06,580
Okay, that correction will be made. Any other comments or questions? All in favor?

838
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:07,780
Aye.

839
01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:12,920
Anyone opposed? We will wave those reading of the minutes by a five to zero vote.

840
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:16,880
The

841
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:36,940
September 8th, 2026, pre-council meeting was called to order at 6.03 p.m. by President Roskivix, President Mr. Roskivix, Mr. Simeone, Mr. Dakota, Mr. Guerrero, Mrs. Mills, Ms. Holman, Mrs. DiJacamo, Officers Present, City Manager Timoneer, City Solicitor Cooper, Finance Director Con, and Clerk of Council Milberg.

842
01:23:39,310 --> 01:23:43,510
I will move. We wave the reading of the minutes in their entirety.

843
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:54,330
Any other comments or questions? All in favor?

844
01:23:55,010 --> 01:23:55,070
I.

845
01:23:55,710 --> 01:23:56,410
Anyone opposed?

846
01:23:56,670 --> 01:23:59,030
We will wave the reading by a 5-0 vote.

847
01:23:59,790 --> 01:24:00,590
The regular meeting?

848
01:24:01,290 --> 01:24:06,610
September 8, 2026, regular council meeting was called to order at 8 p.m. by President

849
01:24:06,610 --> 01:24:07,210
Roskivix.

850
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:11,130
Mr. Guerrero offered the opening prayer and the pledge of allegiance was recited.

851
01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:18,630
Mr. President, Mr. Roskivix, Mr. Simione, Mr. Dakota, Mr. Guerrero, Mrs. Mills, Mrs. Holman, Mrs. DiJaccomo.

852
01:24:19,130 --> 01:24:24,970
Officers, President, City Manager to Maniera, City Solicitor Cooper, Finance Director Con, and Clerk of Council, Milberg.

853
01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:29,970
May I have a motion to wave the reading of the minutes and their entirety?

854
01:24:30,650 --> 01:24:31,110
I'll move.

855
01:24:32,130 --> 01:24:32,470
Second.

856
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:34,850
Mr. Guerrero moves, Ms. Holman seconds.

857
01:24:35,410 --> 01:24:35,950
Any discussion?

858
01:24:37,670 --> 01:24:38,670
All in favor?

859
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:48,190
any one opposed? We will wave the reading of the minutes by a 5-0 vote and then last Monday's work session.

860
01:24:48,670 --> 01:24:54,470
September 14th, 2026 work session was called to order at 4.30 p.m. by President Roskivix.

861
01:24:55,210 --> 01:25:01,570
President Mr. Roskivix, Mr. Dakota, Mr. Guerrero, Mrs. Mills, Ms. Holman, Mrs. DiJacamo.

862
01:25:02,230 --> 01:25:06,890
Officers present, City Manager Timoneer, City Solicitor Cooper, and Clerk of Council Milberg.

863
01:25:06,890 --> 01:25:09,890
Absence, Mr. Simeone, and Binance Director Kong.

864
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:16,090
May I have a motion to wave the reading of the minutes in their entirety?

865
01:25:17,450 --> 01:25:18,430
Some moved.

866
01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:19,910
Mrs. Mills-Move.

867
01:25:20,730 --> 01:25:25,290
I will second any discussion, all in favor?

868
01:25:25,890 --> 01:25:26,130
Aye.

869
01:25:26,530 --> 01:25:27,250
Anyone opposed?

870
01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:32,030
We will wave those reading minutes by a five to zero vote.

871
01:25:32,930 --> 01:25:33,390
Thank you.

872
01:25:35,170 --> 01:25:37,590
We will not, we have no resolutions to present.

873
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:41,650
And we will not go on with our ordinances that are on for passage.

874
01:25:46,130 --> 01:25:58,810
Ordnance number 2026-159, an ordinance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Northeastern communications to purchase portable radios and related equipment for the Asheville Fire Department.

875
01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:09,920
Ordnance number 2026-160, an ordinance authorizing the city manager to amend the contract with Amindola Engineering for

876
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:15,700
We're mixing zone studies and other necessary work related to the relocation of Outfall 001.

877
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:26,180
Ordnance number 2026-161, an ordinance authorizing the city manager to dispose of obsolete and unneeded vehicles round four.

878
01:26:27,980 --> 01:26:36,820
Ordnance number 2026-162, an ordinance authorizing finance director to enter into an emergency individual employment agreement with Ms.

879
01:26:36,820 --> 01:26:40,680
Carolyn Sheldon, commencing on September 1st, 2026.

880
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:55,340
Ordnance number 2026, dash 163, and ordnance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Petro's services, LLC, to repair a 512-G case loader for the public works department.

881
01:26:56,940 --> 01:27:01,940
Thank you. Is it council's desire to handle these items and consent agenda for a map?

882
01:27:13,930 --> 01:27:21,170
Is there a motion to wave the reading of this legislation in its entirety?

883
01:27:22,350 --> 01:27:23,190
Some moved.

884
01:27:23,630 --> 01:27:24,010
Second.

885
01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:27,150
This woman moves Mrs. Mills seconds.

886
01:27:27,530 --> 01:27:28,250
Any discussion?

887
01:27:28,970 --> 01:27:29,870
All in favor?

888
01:27:30,170 --> 01:27:30,810
Aye.

889
01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:32,010
Any one opposed?

890
01:27:32,850 --> 01:27:35,410
We will wave the reading by a five to zero vote.

891
01:27:35,890 --> 01:27:39,250
Can I have a motion to wave the charter requirements for two readings?

892
01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:42,630
I will move that we do so.

893
01:27:43,010 --> 01:27:43,390
Second.

894
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:45,430
Mrs. Mills will second.

895
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:46,930
Any discussion?

896
01:27:47,670 --> 01:27:48,930
Will you please call the roll?

897
01:27:49,530 --> 01:27:50,210
Mr. Guerrero?

898
01:27:50,670 --> 01:27:51,290
Mr. Guerrero?

899
01:27:51,850 --> 01:27:52,290
Yes.

900
01:27:52,850 --> 01:27:53,690
Mr. Simeone?

901
01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:54,270
Yes.

902
01:27:54,710 --> 01:27:55,550
Mr. Roskiewicz?

903
01:27:55,630 --> 01:27:55,770
Yes.

904
01:27:56,170 --> 01:27:56,770
Ms. Holman?

905
01:27:57,090 --> 01:27:57,270
Yes.

906
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:58,190
Mrs. Mills?

907
01:27:58,570 --> 01:27:58,710
Yes.

908
01:27:58,710 --> 01:27:58,870
Yes.

909
01:27:59,510 --> 01:28:03,690
We will waive the two reading requirement by a five to zero vote.

910
01:28:03,870 --> 01:28:06,690
We will now vote on the adoption of the legislation.

911
01:28:07,150 --> 01:28:08,310
Would you please call the roll?

912
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:10,150
Mr. Roskivix?

913
01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:10,430
Yes.

914
01:28:11,130 --> 01:28:12,030
Mr. Guerrero?

915
01:28:12,370 --> 01:28:12,630
Yes.

916
01:28:12,970 --> 01:28:13,690
Mr. Cimeone?

917
01:28:14,050 --> 01:28:14,230
Yes.

918
01:28:14,610 --> 01:28:15,150
Mrs. Mills?

919
01:28:16,050 --> 01:28:16,270
Yes.

920
01:28:16,830 --> 01:28:17,350
Mrs. Dijock?

921
01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:18,370
I'm sorry, Ms. Holman.

922
01:28:19,170 --> 01:28:19,370
Yes.

923
01:28:20,330 --> 01:28:24,550
All those items of legislation have passed by a five to zero vote.

924
01:28:26,010 --> 01:28:27,050
Mr. President?

925
01:28:27,310 --> 01:28:27,410
Yes.

926
01:28:27,410 --> 01:28:32,970
But I would like to make a motion or suggest to raise the table 155-156.

927
01:28:35,550 --> 01:28:47,250
We have a motion, the table ordinance 2026-155, and 2026-156 together, the table.

928
01:28:48,170 --> 01:28:51,950
Is there a second to that motion?

929
01:28:55,210 --> 01:28:57,970
Mr. Guerrero moves, Mr. Cimeone's second.

930
01:28:58,150 --> 01:28:59,130
Is there any discussion?

931
01:28:59,970 --> 01:29:02,770
Yes, why are we tabling these two ordinances?

932
01:29:03,490 --> 01:29:06,950
I would like more information on this bond business

933
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:10,090
before we talk about the supplemental insurance

934
01:29:10,090 --> 01:29:11,190
in lieu of bond.

935
01:29:11,790 --> 01:29:13,010
We don't know what we can get it yet.

936
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:17,730
We don't have comparable with other cities of our size

937
01:29:17,730 --> 01:29:20,070
or what they're issuing as far as a bond.

938
01:29:20,590 --> 01:29:21,870
And I just think that some information

939
01:29:21,870 --> 01:29:26,270
that we should know before we vote on that.

940
01:29:28,590 --> 01:29:30,430
Any other questions or comments?

941
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,740
All right, there's a motion to table.

942
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,760
I think we will call the roll on this, probably, we should.

943
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:42,640
Mr. Guerrero?

944
01:29:43,180 --> 01:29:43,460
Yes.

945
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:44,880
Mr. Simionne?

946
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:45,320
Yes.

947
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:46,680
Mr. Roskiewicz?

948
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:48,800
Yes.

949
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:50,020
Ms. Holman?

950
01:29:50,460 --> 01:29:50,640
Yes.

951
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:51,840
Mrs. Mills.

952
01:29:52,220 --> 01:29:52,360
Yes.

953
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:52,580
Yes.

954
01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:59,400
Yes, we will table that and it will come back to us, it will come off the table that our

955
01:29:59,400 --> 01:29:59,860
next meeting.

956
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,940
We will have the information that we need.

957
01:30:07,310 --> 01:30:31,610
Okay. At this point, we would need a vote. I'm going to ask for a voice vote to approve. I believe last week Miss Milmer helped me out on this last week. We approved the first reading for the comprehensive plan. Correct. Okay. And then there were some questions. And then we had the work session. And so now, because of the question,

958
01:30:31,610 --> 01:30:41,670
And some of the changes that resulted, that comprehensive plan needs to go back to the planning commission for review and their changes.

959
01:30:42,610 --> 01:30:47,870
And then it will come back to council for two more readings, we'll have to have two more readings then at that time.

960
01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:57,730
Okay, so I will ask for a voice vote to return the ordinance 158 to the planning commission.

961
01:31:02,930 --> 01:31:06,230
We're waiting on the voice vote, we're waiting on the board.

962
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:08,550
All in favor of doing so?

963
01:31:08,890 --> 01:31:09,150
Aye.

964
01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:10,750
Anyone opposed?

965
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:16,110
We will return that ordinance to the planning commission for a five to zero vote.

966
01:31:18,490 --> 01:31:20,030
Mr. President.

967
01:31:22,530 --> 01:31:26,730
You were here at the work session so you're well aware of the concerns and so forth.

968
01:31:26,730 --> 01:31:30,790
So, you will be able to include the other members.

969
01:31:32,570 --> 01:31:33,730
Mr. President.

970
01:31:34,650 --> 01:31:35,950
No, I just had a question.

971
01:31:36,170 --> 01:31:38,510
So, that would go to them for October 1st meeting?

972
01:31:39,150 --> 01:31:39,390
Yes.

973
01:31:39,790 --> 01:31:48,150
Yeah, the intention is to put it on the October 1st meeting and then see if they'll go along with those recommendations and then it would be kicked back to council.

974
01:31:49,190 --> 01:31:56,570
Okay, so if everything goes okay, it would be the end of October because do they want to readings or?

975
01:31:56,570 --> 01:32:02,390
Yeah. Okay. I would not suggest that at that point. Okay. That's okay. Very good.

976
01:32:02,610 --> 01:32:07,830
We've already, you know, changed it so. Okay. And again, I guess, you know, I would like to say again,

977
01:32:08,050 --> 01:32:11,930
I know we said it during the work session, but, you know, everything that's in that

978
01:32:12,770 --> 01:32:17,270
comprehensive plan is concept. It doesn't mean that everything is going to be done in it.

979
01:32:17,410 --> 01:32:20,370
It doesn't mean that nothing is going to be done from it. They're going to be pieces parts.

980
01:32:22,330 --> 01:32:31,350
It's a little disappointing that the one particular item has been the talk of everything in an 82 page document.

981
01:32:31,830 --> 01:32:42,070
There is some really good concepts, some really good suggestions, some really good ideas throughout the entire plan that I feel very good about.

982
01:32:42,690 --> 01:32:50,290
The committee, the public, and I will say that again when we talk about the trails and the mention of the trails and the mention of bike lanes in there.

983
01:32:50,290 --> 01:32:54,790
That is not something that this council mandated was in that report.

984
01:32:55,010 --> 01:33:00,110
That's not something I mandated was in that conference plan, it's not something that anyone on my staff did.

985
01:33:00,570 --> 01:33:06,850
That came from public feedback, from the public meetings that we had, from the surveys we had,

986
01:33:07,130 --> 01:33:10,590
and from the 20-some odd member committee that was together.

987
01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:15,870
So those were not things that were just, we should do this by a couple of few individuals.

988
01:33:15,870 --> 01:33:22,410
That was a collection of everyone and we're happy that that plan includes as many people as it does

989
01:33:25,630 --> 01:33:26,490
Thank you

990
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:31,410
Okay, so it will go to the planning commission come back. We could have one reading and

991
01:33:32,050 --> 01:33:34,330
Sort of somewhat maybe stay on track

992
01:33:35,810 --> 01:33:36,330
Okay

993
01:33:37,010 --> 01:33:42,610
All right, is there anything else on our agenda? I don't believe I believe we handled all our business this evening

994
01:33:42,610 --> 01:33:47,610
I mean, we come to the part of our meeting where if somebody has something for

995
01:33:47,610 --> 01:33:51,150
tell us something we don't know, Mr. President, I do.

996
01:33:51,470 --> 01:33:53,410
Well, you have something for tell us something we don't know.

997
01:33:53,490 --> 01:33:53,850
Yes, I do.

998
01:33:53,930 --> 01:33:54,790
Good, thank you.

999
01:33:56,790 --> 01:34:03,010
The National Fitness Hall of Fame is an American Hall of Fame for notable fitness professionals.

1000
01:34:04,030 --> 01:34:12,030
It includes notable figures involved in fitness instruction, training, education, fitness management

1001
01:34:12,030 --> 01:34:19,090
and product development, and some of the people that are in this Hall of Fame are Arnold

1002
01:34:19,090 --> 01:34:30,110
Swartz-Nigger, Jack Elaine, Charles Atlas, Vic Taney, and I am proud to say, based on this

1003
01:34:30,110 --> 01:34:37,510
news-herald article that I copied, one of our native sons has been inducted into this

1004
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:41,130
All of Fame, Jamie Prinkas, who grew up on his 15th street.

1005
01:34:42,570 --> 01:34:44,330
And he's also a friend of mine.

1006
01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:45,590
So I know him very well.

1007
01:34:46,190 --> 01:34:53,490
And he's most famous for the eight minute apps video that he made.

1008
01:34:53,930 --> 01:34:56,730
But he's been a fitness guy for as long as I can remember.

1009
01:34:57,350 --> 01:35:02,870
And when you start getting talked about with names like Jack Elaine and Charles Atlas,

1010
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:08,230
Because you must be doing something right and we're sure proud of him.

1011
01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:12,130
And I just want to just shout out to him, he is from Ashtabula.

1012
01:35:12,450 --> 01:35:15,250
He's in Ashtabula all the time, even though he does not live here now.

1013
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:17,930
And we want to wish him all the best.

1014
01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:21,160
Thank you, Mr. Grocery.

1015
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,780
Yeah, he's right down, because we have something to share.

1016
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:33,660
The ADDA Ashtabula Downtown Development Association, it is excited to invite everyone to the downtown Ashtabula chocolate walk.

1017
01:35:33,660 --> 01:35:37,820
on Friday, October 23rd, and Saturday, October 24th.

1018
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:43,860
With over 20 participating businesses, local businesses,

1019
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:51,660
ticket holders can stroll through downtown, visit local businesses, and enjoy a chocolate treat at each shop along the way.

1020
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:59,900
It's a great opportunity to discover our local shops, support our downtown businesses, and celebrate the reopening of main avenue.

1021
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:07,800
Tickets are just $5 and go on sale September 25th at Ultimate Appearance, US Bank, Happy

1022
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,540
Echings, Frame Done Main, and MPG Apparel.

1023
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:16,560
There are only 100 tickets that will be available, so be sure to get yours early.

1024
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,900
Come downtown, enjoy some chocolate, and help us celebrate Ashtabula.

1025
01:36:22,930 --> 01:36:23,890
Thank you, Ms. Holman.

1026
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:24,770
Anybody else?

1027
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:35,870
both Mr. President and kind of piggyback on the EDDA and Mrs. DeJackamo, I've helped her.

1028
01:36:36,490 --> 01:36:38,930
We've went to a lot of the businesses downtown.

1029
01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:47,310
We tried to coordinate, so this will kind of be fun that we have bridge street things to do and we have downtown things to do.

1030
01:36:47,450 --> 01:36:51,430
So we made sure we didn't coordinate it when they had their Friday night market.

1031
01:36:52,290 --> 01:36:57,090
So there will be lots of different things happening in October.

1032
01:36:58,130 --> 01:37:03,530
One thing that's going to happen in the harbor in October, this is before our next meeting.

1033
01:37:03,790 --> 01:37:09,250
Saturday, October 3rd is the harvest in the harbor celebration, bringing neighbors,

1034
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:13,490
visitors, local businesses together to celebrate the season.

1035
01:37:14,030 --> 01:37:20,990
So they have artisan craft and pet related vendors, a spooky pooch parade, chilly cook-off,

1036
01:37:20,990 --> 01:37:26,690
Merchant scavenger hunt, pumpkin painting, and trunker treat for the kids.

1037
01:37:27,890 --> 01:37:35,370
So they're going to have areas, I think, by the bridge street galley that will have the chili cook off.

1038
01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:36,530
That's from two to four.

1039
01:37:37,050 --> 01:37:40,010
Trunker treat is from noon to two.

1040
01:37:40,250 --> 01:37:42,770
That's a lot across from the public parking.

1041
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:46,410
And they'll have treats for children and for dogs.

1042
01:37:48,010 --> 01:38:00,690
Then they're going to have the pooch parade in the morning, and actually I'll be one of the judges, and then they have street vendors, food trucks, and children's activities.

1043
01:38:01,170 --> 01:38:05,650
So, just another thing happening at the other end of town.

1044
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:11,190
And one last thing, working on Halo, I can't believe it's that time of year.

1045
01:38:11,190 --> 01:38:18,390
that's holiday angels, loving others, Catholic charities, Gala event, Saturday, November 7th,

1046
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:21,330
our Lady of Peace Community Center on 21st Street.

1047
01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:29,450
We do holiday meals and toys to families and individuals in need, and I think this year there's a big need.

1048
01:38:29,850 --> 01:38:36,930
There's a big need with the cost of everything going up between rent, utilities, food, taxes.

1049
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:45,310
So, but we still want children to have toys, families to have meals together.

1050
01:38:46,010 --> 01:38:52,950
So we're wrapping up meetings, we have another one this week, we'll have ticket information coming soon, so save the date.

1051
01:38:53,450 --> 01:39:03,250
It's a great cause for kids and you blink your eye and it's going to be time for holiday presents, so that's it, thank you.

1052
01:39:03,250 --> 01:39:13,810
Thank you, Mrs. Mills, and I will just add I do this often in the harbor this the harbor had an event every night Friday night

1053
01:39:13,810 --> 01:39:18,430
They had their shopping thing. It was crowded Saturday. They had the beer festival

1054
01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:22,530
Sunday, I think I don't know what it was called. I think it was something with goth

1055
01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:29,270
God something at the chicken place. It was it goth something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1056
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:36,050
punk something punk a punk flea market that was good but anyway I always say

1057
01:39:36,050 --> 01:39:40,570
that you know we I was working at the beer festival Mrs. Mills was there

1058
01:39:40,570 --> 01:39:46,650
Mr. Gidell was there and a lot of the brewers are from out of town and and I

1059
01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:51,510
always share this they come here they are just so impressed with our town they

1060
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:57,070
just have so many nice things to say about ash de bulla that they like coming

1061
01:39:57,070 --> 01:40:03,270
here, it's a nice place. And I just think we, I know I say that a lot, but I just think

1062
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:10,690
we need to hear that a lot because a lot of negativity sometimes and a lot of, I

1063
01:40:10,690 --> 01:40:15,750
don't know sometimes you don't want to hear things or read things. So I'm just, I was

1064
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:24,910
thrilled when that happens. So that was a good thing. All right, does anyone else have

1065
01:40:24,910 --> 01:40:29,990
anything. Okay, seeing nothing we have no executive session. We are going to meet

1066
01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:37,810
on October 5th at 6 o'clock and that'll be our next meeting. So until then, we

1067
01:40:37,810 --> 01:40:42,010
wish everybody well, have a good couple of weeks and we are adjourned.