1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:09,519 State of the flag and the United States of America and to the republic for which 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:15,400 it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,400 for all. 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:31,439 Families, business, and schools we responsibility. 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:36,800 It is only appropriate to petition for help from a hired authority in 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:43,000 discussion, reflection, and dispensing of our duties as council members. A 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,000 moment of silence, please. 8 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Paris. >> Okay. Can I have an approval 9 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,000 meeting, please? 10 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:18,880 » Second. >> Yes. I favor. 11 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:25,439 I >> Okay. You make a couple comments. First, 12 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:30,720 we had two police officers today involved in a shooting incident to turn 13 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:37,600 the fire off involving. So, if you would just keep them in your 14 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:44,079 thoughts. Um and tonight this is a meeting with 15 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:50,799 say two presenters and it's not a question and answer session and in quest 16 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:56,479 respect and we're sorry for the limitations. We do have part of our 17 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:01,759 streaming but the audio is not there. So, I'm sure there's plenty of phones 18 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:07,360 out there that will be streaming audio and video and hopefully then by next 19 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:11,440 meeting um we'll take that. We have cameras in here and mics to hopefully 20 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:17,840 help some of the sound when we do get it to be solved. Um 21 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:22,480 so, [clears throat] first presentation listed is Sue Moore. Is she here? She 22 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,200 is. Okay. Podium there, please. 23 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:44,560 thoughts for the police officers. >> Thank you. Thank you. 24 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:51,760 » An inflection point refers to any moment when a significant change occurs, 25 00:02:48,239 --> 00:03:00,000 a defining moment that alters the future. Asheville is at that moment. 26 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Growth must be systematically guided with a plan for the future, not 27 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:15,599 simply allowed to happen. I created a timeline in order to help me 28 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:22,480 understand how Asheville Council has so quickly arrived at this point. 29 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:27,680 a point where you need to make such a powerful 30 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:37,760 and farreaching decision that will go into the future. A decision that will 31 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:42,319 forever alter the Asheville we all love. The first news of a data center I could 32 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:50,159 find was the October 28th, 2025 33 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:57,680 Village of Asheville newsletter. In the middle of the village updates 34 00:03:52,799 --> 00:04:04,560 column after leaf pickup information. Not much of a big deal for such a 35 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:11,599 lifealtering prospect for many. In early November, South Bloomfield 36 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:17,519 Mayor Aaron Thomas formed Protect Pickaway Alliance. 37 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:21,919 That was my first real introduction to data centers. 38 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:29,199 Like everyone else who lives in the area, I have watched the smoking 39 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:35,040 colopsis rise from the former grounds of Hartman Farms. I asked myself, was this 40 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:40,880 a data center? I began my data center research in 41 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:49,280 earnest. Then came the November 19th town hall. 42 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Attendees left disgruntled as they were unable to learn, as they stated, real 43 00:04:52,960 --> 00:05:01,919 information. Following was the November 24th village 44 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:09,039 newsletter which had a more robust description of the data center. The 45 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:15,600 newsletter explained how vital the data center was 46 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:21,759 to Asheville because Edge Connects would pay for the long needed water plant and 47 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:25,280 pour millions into the TA Valley school system. 48 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:31,520 Then came the December 1st council meeting, and I suspect the then village 49 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:37,440 mayor and council were unprepared for the amount of negativity 50 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:42,800 villagers displayed. At that meeting, several people spoke and left handouts 51 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:49,759 for council. Kyle Barnum, certified nurse 52 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:56,240 practitioner, a local resident, gave the mayor and each council member a 53 00:05:52,639 --> 00:06:02,639 five-page document complete with two pages of citations 54 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:09,280 on the health risks surrounding data centers. 55 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Josh Austin, also local, spoke and gave you a three-page document also detailing 56 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:22,160 health hazards. Extremely low frequency magnetic fields, 57 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:25,160 noise and air quality, among other things. 58 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:37,199 I gave you nine pages of 92 residents who were at the town hall and who were 59 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:44,080 pulled upon leaving the town hall. I gathered the 92 opposition signatures in 60 00:06:41,039 --> 00:06:50,960 less than a 2hour period. Was simply a poll to get a feeling for what people 61 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:56,880 were hearing about the projected data center. I was overwhelmed with the 62 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:03,120 number of people who waited to sign my impromptu form. I sensed they were 63 00:07:00,479 --> 00:07:08,240 feeling helpless and frankly they couldn't understand why this was 64 00:07:05,599 --> 00:07:13,840 happening so quickly. Signing that form made them feel they 65 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:18,400 were fighting back and somebody was listening. 66 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:25,280 I hope the new council members have received copies of those handouts in 67 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:31,360 order to afford them the information local citizens have taken the time to 68 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:37,120 assemble and share their expertise in health and safety issues surrounding 69 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:42,400 data centers. December 15th was another well-attended 70 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:47,840 council meeting only hours after the village 71 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:54,160 administrator gave an ill-advised and apparently incorrect television 72 00:07:50,720 --> 00:08:00,160 interview stating the data center is a done deal. No need for a vote. 73 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:05,599 Continuing to use the village administrator as the frontman of data 74 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:12,800 center negotiations as well as village spokesperson is a 75 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:19,599 topic council must consider carefully until confidence is restored to your 76 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:23,639 constituents regarding the veracity of public statements. 77 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:33,680 The January 5th council meeting once again featured representatives from 78 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:37,440 EdgeconX during which statements were made 79 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:43,839 surrounding a neighborhood school district that have since been proven 80 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:50,320 incorrect. On January 12th, I attended the Taz 81 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:57,200 Valley School District's board meeting. I was allowed to address the board and I 82 00:08:54,399 --> 00:09:04,240 asked three questions. One of which was, has the board had 83 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:10,560 conversations with any data center representative? 84 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:17,440 The answer to that question was no. Once again, in order to improve public 85 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:24,240 perception of council as a TAZ school district employee, 86 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:28,880 consideration should be given by Councilman Teters 87 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:33,279 to recuse himself from any vote that relates to the data 88 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:40,320 center. This is offered as a suggestion wrapped 89 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:47,600 in an abundance of caution regarding a controversial topic and is 90 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:53,680 not meant as a reflection on Councilman Teter's integrity. 91 00:09:50,720 --> 00:10:00,320 As per the Edge K connects representatives, there's a 30-day window 92 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:06,160 for execution of an agreement with the village. 93 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:13,760 30 days dating from January 5th seems to be an awfully ambitious time frame, 94 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:20,720 particularly when the council has new and newish members. 95 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Why are they in control of the time council has to learn about data centers 96 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:30,600 and their impact on thousands in a variety of ways? 97 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:38,000 According to [clears throat] the gentleman who was here last time, there 98 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:42,800 were five or 50 items, I believe he said. I've rewatched that video a number 99 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,880 of times, but 50 items, he said, and he would only address three or four of them 100 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:53,200 at the last meeting. So 50. So that's a lot of items for you 101 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:58,959 to consider in a very brief period of time 102 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:06,240 because council has a moral obligation as well as statutory duty to protect 103 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:14,800 both the public health and safety of Asheville residents. I am requesting 104 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:22,240 council create an emergency order adopting interim standards regarding 105 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:28,240 noise, vibration, and mechanical emissions for largecale industrial 106 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:33,839 facilities. This preserves council's control 107 00:11:31,032 --> 00:11:38,720 [clears throat] before permits lock in everything. 108 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:47,120 It allows time to develop interim standards and allows for a study period. 109 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:55,839 The emergency interim ordinance is entirely health and safetybased. 110 00:11:51,760 --> 00:12:03,440 The village of Asheville already has the authority to pause approvals and require 111 00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:11,680 proof of compliance for health and safety under existing codes 112 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:19,839 disturbing the peace noise public safety and limited industrial district zoning. 113 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Chapter 141 states, "Permits can be denied, paused, or conditioned until 114 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:34,720 compliance with village noise, safety, and nuisance standards are proven in 115 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:42,160 advance. Council needs adequate time for study. 116 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:50,240 You do not have to wait for harm to occur. And you surely don't need to be 117 00:12:45,440 --> 00:13:01,440 pushed into now a 21-day period to make such lifealtering decisions for so many. 118 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:06,959 I think if I had to describe the mood of the many people I've talked with over 119 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:14,079 the last six or eight weeks, it's the feeling of utter helplessness they have 120 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:22,639 when something so monumental not of their own making is confronting 121 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:30,000 them and they have no real power to do anything about it. is frustrating and I 122 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:36,880 hope you can understand that. This data center prospect is killing the 123 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:42,720 community emotionally >> and physically. 124 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:49,440 Best I can tell, it's all about the water treatment plant. 125 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:56,560 Do you really think the EPA or whatever entity that is citing the village is 126 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:03,279 going to swoop into Asheville and shut all the water off to thousands of 127 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:10,399 people, schools, and businesses? Yes, you have a water problem, 128 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:17,920 council. A problem that the existing council did not create. 129 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:21,519 » That is for 10 minutes. So, can you wrap it up? 130 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:27,680 » Yes, I shall. >> Okay. 131 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:34,800 » Yes, you have a water problem, council. A problem that you didn't create. 132 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:45,360 That is the reality, but you're getting blamed for it, and you must solve it. 133 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Edge connects is not the answer. We urge you to deny annexation. 134 00:14:50,880 --> 00:15:01,880 This is your inflection point. Council, thank you. 135 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,880 » Thank you. Thank you. 136 00:15:08,495 --> 00:15:10,515 [clears throat] 137 00:15:38,959 --> 00:15:44,160 question. >> All right. Mayor uh Clark and Council, 138 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,480 thank you again for allowing Edgeax to come uh here today to speak. Um we do 139 00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:52,800 not have a formal PowerPoint presentation today. Yes, we briefed the 140 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:57,199 council on the project loss meeting that we had. We're here today um to 141 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:01,360 reintroduce ourselves. Uh I'm Macy Ramsey. I am with Edge Connects uh for 142 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:07,759 market development and then with our trusted engineering partner Paul Woff is 143 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:12,320 here as a center project lead expert. One thing I would like to start by 144 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:16,399 clarifying is um to provide a little bit more accuracy behind the situation. 145 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:20,959 There were some statements made at the last council meeting from external 146 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:26,079 parties outside of Edge Connects um and our trusted partners. Um those external 147 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,560 parties uh are not part of the project development team. So with that being 148 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:34,560 said, for any questions around community commitments, uh the project itself, 149 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:40,240 traffic studies, construction, development, uh project details, we as 150 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,639 edge connects and our project partners, BCI would like to be the ones that 151 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:48,639 directly respond to you with accurate um and [clears throat] quickly and timely 152 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:52,399 uh answers for those sort for those sort of questions. 153 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Um, with that [sighs] being said, um, we're just here today to talk briefly 154 00:16:54,639 --> 00:17:01,040 on, um, any of the questions that you had last time. I did want to address one 155 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:07,280 item that uh Councilman Burke asked that I said I would be bringing answer back 156 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:11,839 to around OPSV and then um discuss what it looks like um work for a potential 157 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:16,160 town hall opportunity uh that the council may be looking at hosting as the 158 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:21,039 project would like to be a participant at this so we can help provide details 159 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:24,720 from the technical standpoint from the health and safety aspect as well as any 160 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,520 other permitting and regulatory processes that the project would 161 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:32,240 undergo. um as part of the the permitting 162 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,919 process. Um so, Councilman Burke, the one question that you had last time was 163 00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:42,559 around Ohio Power Sighting Board and what would it look like if um we failed 164 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:46,559 to fail to continue operations as upheld by the binding conditions of the 165 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:51,280 certificate and he asked what was what were the repercussions basically and so 166 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:57,280 there are three repercussions as listed by the hot power sounding board. Um the 167 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:02,160 when you operate a behind the meter generation facility you must uphold 168 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:08,000 those binding conditions that are in the certificate. Um the three uh items that 169 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:12,559 are repercussions one is requiring corrective action. So that's mitigation. 170 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:17,039 it's going in and then adding in um whether it's sound attenuation sound 171 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:22,559 walls or if it's um noise emitters, if it's additional um mechanical um 172 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:28,240 equipment that helps with air air uh permit issues, anything that is being 173 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:33,520 monitored um on a daily basis. If that is out of protocol, that is a form of 174 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:38,799 effect function and mitigation that OPSB can put on you. They can limit or 175 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:43,440 suspend operations. So they do have the um state authority, enforcement 176 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:48,160 authority to take your um operating license away from you and then of course 177 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:53,039 and they also can impose penalties and that's defined by themselves and uh the 178 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:58,240 project at um compliance for the project is 179 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,720 overseen 100% by state agencies. It's not overseen by the developer or the 180 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:07,200 operator themselves. So any compliance that you must adhere to either data 181 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:11,240 centers or energy centers um must be upheld in our state regulated 182 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:20,120 » council. I was wondering if that happened to answer your question. 183 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:20,120 » It does. 184 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:27,360 » Agency is that just the EPA or there other 185 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:32,080 » Yes. The Ohio Power Exciting Board is specifically who um approves the 186 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:36,880 certificate for operations of any electric generating facility and then 187 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,880 also Ohio EPA for air quality and noise control 188 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:47,480 » fall under EPA as well. >> That would also fall under EPA that is 189 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,480 part of their preview. 190 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,320 » Thank you. 191 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:57,360 And that being said, um, is there any other councilman questions that we can 192 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:01,200 answer here today? >> Well, there's probably what, six 193 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:05,919 different agencies that are on that sighting board? Six. 194 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:12,400 » Ohio Power Sighting Board um is a state regulatory agency itself, but it is also 195 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:18,039 um controlled by the PUCO and so they are the rating body over 196 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,039 OPSB. 197 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:33,919 We were here today just to provide those answers to the work um and to also 198 00:20:31,679 --> 00:20:39,280 discuss participation in a town hall as we would like to provide a lot more 199 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:45,039 clarity, accuracy, detailed information to answer community concerns and 200 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:48,240 questions that have been raised. Thank you. 201 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:48,240 » Thank you. 202 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,240 No 203 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:11,520 any departmental reports today a little bit of stuff here. We we had 204 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:19,280 bid opening for the new water plant um on Friday. We had a bid of 12,844,000. 205 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:24,000 We also had a bid of 14,724,000. Uh the engineering firm that designed 206 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:28,919 the plant is reviewing the bids, looking over qualifications, checking out the 207 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:37,120 qualifications, see if they can go forward. Um so we should have that 208 00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:41,679 answer uh first second week of February and see where we go from there. 209 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Uh secondly, Carter Lumber, Homes Lumber, 210 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:54,799 which you know it as out here on 752, they have they're required to put in an 211 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:59,039 8 in fire tap. They already have a 6-in firetap. It will not perform what they 212 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:04,799 need it to perform because they have multiple hydrants. Now, I've offered 213 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:12,559 them to credit them a 6-in fire tap and and then pay for a the difference to an 214 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:19,520 8 in. That difference is $3 and $16,000 215 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:27,480 from a 6 in to an 8 in fire tap. I offered them five annual payments. 216 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,480 July 1st each year they pay $63,240.40. 217 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:39,679 Are you guys okay with that? The the fire re uh suppression was 218 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:43,039 something that was unforeseen. It was because they added all those 219 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,720 sheds with lumber and stuff in it back there. 220 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:52,480 They had to add more fire hydrants for fire inspection or for fire department. 221 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:57,880 When you have more than one fire hydrant, you have to have a larger line 222 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,880 than 6 in. 223 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:05,559 question. >> Yeah, 224 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:05,559 » I'll 225 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:13,799 in >> Yeah, the 6 in is the 6 in is 20053,000 226 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:22,559 and the 8 in is $568,000. So, they're going to shut off the 6 in 227 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,360 and cap it and pay the difference between the eight and the six. 228 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:36,559 Is that incurring a cost on the village? Because what I'm what I'm hearing is 229 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:39,679 they added things to their their ability to plan their site, what what have you. 230 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:44,400 » They want [clears throat] some link to put lumber in 231 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:49,440 » causing them. In my mind, that is not the village's 232 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,799 responsibility to put part of that. See what I'm saying? That is not 233 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:58,159 » We didn't cause that issue, >> but there's already been paid for. 234 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:05,440 » Okay. And that was only my only reason of going from to split the cost. 235 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:08,000 » So my question then is is the village incurring any cost? 236 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:13,120 » Absolutely not. >> They are 100% putting it in and taking 237 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:17,120 the old one out at their expense. We we actually 238 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:22,960 good thing about fire line fire lines is you hope to never have to use them. 239 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:27,120 They're very expensive and nothing usually ever floats to them in a perfect 240 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:30,840 world. So, they're kind of a 241 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:38,880 a bonus that is quite expensive 242 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:44,240 » and forgive my ignorance. I'm just just trying to understand there. So, the 243 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:47,600 $500,000 cost, who levies that cost? >> That's all set up in our ordinances. All 244 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,520 the fire suppression charges and everything is set up where your water 245 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:56,559 rates and your tap fees and all that stuff is for different size services. 246 00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:00,240 » Okay. So that's not something that you know park and labor that is spelled out 247 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,400 in our ordinances. This is what it cost to put it in. 248 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,919 » That's just what it cost to hook to it and that and the hooking to it part is 249 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:11,039 all on them. [clears throat] >> Okay. 250 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:14,960 So, so when you when you when you say they're going to pay us 60,000 bucks for 251 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:18,080 five, you know, for five years, what are they actually paying for? 252 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,919 » Is that a cap fee? >> Basically, yeah, 253 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:25,360 » it's basically a fee. >> So, it isn't it is we aren't incurring 254 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:29,200 any we're just allowing them to pay us the 300 and some odd thousand over the 255 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,400 five years. >> Okay. 256 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,039 » Okay. We're not doing anything up front and 257 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:40,240 they're increasing their capacity and that's that's a reasonable assumption. 258 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:44,919 That's a reasonable thing. >> Yeah. As long as the village isn't 259 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,919 incurring any costs. 260 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:52,320 Exactly. >> Somebody did. I mean whether it was 261 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:56,480 Columbus Industries or whoever. So, 262 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:59,760 » and when you need from me or us, >> if you're okay with it, I'll get the 263 00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:03,720 paperwork done and then I'll present an ordinance or a resolution. 264 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:09,320 » I'll present a resolution to you. I just want to get your opinion. 265 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:21,120 » Yes. Um, secondly, 266 00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:26,400 Daryl Ward had been he's out seeking donations to create the memorial the the 267 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:31,039 veterans memorial wall over the park. You guys all approved that. Well, most 268 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:37,919 of you wasn't here, but ones that were here approved it last fall. And then, 269 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:42,640 uh, he's got about he's got over half the money raised. 270 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:48,480 I was wanting to put a purchase order together for $13,000 to help fund it in 271 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:53,440 the so that the project can move forward and and be done before the 4th of July 272 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:56,799 and all that. In the event that he doesn't raise the rest of the money, the 273 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:02,400 village would end up with a $13,000 investment in it. 274 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:07,679 I mean, since you guys approved it, I figured it'd be best to bring it back. I 275 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:12,559 can approve that. Is is the plan for us to to to print the $13,000 and then if 276 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:15,919 he does raise the $25,000 whatever amount 277 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:19,440 » whatever he don't raise back so we we could be on the hook for the residual I 278 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,240 know he's in the middle of that right now 279 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:26,159 » right he's ordered the stones will pick up I closer to 4th of July and all that 280 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:30,720 you know everything like that >> yeah in order to have it done in in the 281 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:36,080 » done this year for the 250th >> it would and u you know it's $13,000 and 282 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:41,279 we'll if if he raises all the money We don't spend a dime. If he raises another 283 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:46,159 $8,000, we'll spend five. I mean, it's >> it's basically just to help out and get 284 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:50,000 the project done. >> If the the only thing I would ask is you 285 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,240 where where do we appropriate those funds? 286 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:56,760 » Yeah, that's that's that is a procedural question. Where would that where would 287 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:07,279 » and we may even be able to do it out of >> Okay, never mind. 288 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:14,960 need a resolution for that next. >> No, I can sign off on it just because of 289 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,720 the funds. I just wanted to pass it by those guys and 290 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:26,360 » it's an ongoing approved project. >> Yeah. And and I think it's it's very 291 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:26,360 well sought after in the building. So, 292 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:35,120 » I can show you all renderings if you'd like to see it. I'll scan it and send it 293 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:40,080 to all your emails tomorrow. It's very attractive. It's got a granite bench and 294 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,760 stuff with donators names engraved in it and all the flag of the military 295 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,720 services and stuff and the nice wall up behind it. So, 296 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,279 » who did you say is raising the phone for that? 297 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,880 » Daryl Ward, the zoning guy 298 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:56,480 » and and Burton 30 seconds or less. What's what's the what's the what's the 299 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:59,360 going forward schedule on uh East Street? You know, 300 00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:04,640 » East Street right now >> I saw curb approaches. They got the 301 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:10,240 concrete poured at the curbs and stuff uh at the driveways where they put in 302 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,080 the new curbs. U I think there's a few more of them to do. 303 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,640 » Okay. >> Weather's not been real cooperative. 304 00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:21,039 » Um but then they're also doing the sanitary down in the alley now down 305 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,360 behind east uh Walnut Street and East Street. 306 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:30,640 Now for third fourth things. [laughter] Uh have you guys had any time to look 307 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:35,679 over the tiff dollars and the NCA dollars and come up with any thoughts or 308 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:39,760 about sharing some of the tiff dollars to to encourage or to be able to recoup 309 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,200 some of the uh >> NCA dollars. 310 00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:48,080 I >> so I candidly I've looked it over but 311 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:51,840 again I my personal feelings I think we need 312 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:56,480 something on the workshop to fully understand this because I see the NPD 313 00:29:53,840 --> 00:30:02,240 calculations and that brings value and but I'm asking the NPD of what right and 314 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:07,039 I think from my perspective and I won't speak for everyone 315 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:14,000 we have some of the most valuable real estate in the state of Ohio right out 316 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:21,120 and I think incentives for development have a place but that is not for every 317 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:25,679 project and um yeah I'll just leave that it's not 318 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,360 for every project and I think housing in particular given the strain to our 319 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:33,600 infrastructure [clears throat] I'm failing at this point and this could be 320 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:38,080 just a personal on me right I'm failing to see 321 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:42,799 the wisdom in providing incentives to a housing developer when we have 322 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:49,039 challenges to our infrastructure. Now, as I said, I may be I may be off base in 323 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,600 some of my assumptions, but I think I think we need something if 324 00:30:50,396 --> 00:30:55,520 [clears throat] council is open to this, a workshop of some kind to kind of walk 325 00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:59,440 through this. We have five council members with 3 months or less of tenure. 326 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:03,360 » If you guys want to meet with me, I I'd be more than happy to help you walk 327 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:06,240 through it. It's it's very complicated. >> I [clears throat] think we should do it 328 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,559 as a group so that we all understand. You can't have more than two of you at 329 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,399 one time, >> right? Which might be a special meeting 330 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:16,320 or something of that that >> I mean I I just don't feel comfortable 331 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:20,240 approving them when I don't have a firm understanding of what's the true benefit 332 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:24,000 for us. I understand when you say the NCA gives us money forever, right? But 333 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,840 there's a reason the developer would sign up for that. 334 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:32,880 » They do. They the the upfront money or the share money is the reason they sign 335 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:37,360 up for it. And that's it lowers the cost of their houses by I don't let's just 336 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:42,640 say $100 a house or $5,000 a house or whatever the number be but it lowers the 337 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:48,880 number that way but it creates a 7 mil income tax on that particular house 338 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:53,519 wherever and the numbers are equal to if not greater than most of your tiff 339 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:57,760 dollars. So you share a few of the tiff dollars but you can get your tiff 340 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:05,279 dollars but they stop in 30 years where your NCA continues on. Sure. 341 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:09,840 » And it's it's kind of a a trade. You you give a little bit to get to get 342 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,919 assumptions baked in >> be assumptions baked into either the 343 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,279 value of the property in the future, the value of the tax dollars that you're 344 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,960 going to receive in the future. And at this point, I just don't feel like 345 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:25,519 personally I'm one of six. So I personally don't 346 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,840 feel that I have the grasp and it sort of goes 347 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:33,919 counter to you know my 348 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:39,200 philosophy that again we have some of the most valuable land in the state of 349 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Ohio and we have challenges to our infrastructure. 350 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,279 Why would we provide an incentive especially for housing when we're 351 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:52,320 signing up for an obligation in perpetuity? 352 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Yeah, I think we need to set a date. If it's a Saturday morning, it's a Saturday 353 00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:01,120 morning. It's going to have to be an announced meeting, right? Um council. 354 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,559 » No, and I can have I can have Burker Graden. They're the ones that put it all 355 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:08,320 together for us. Um they they do all our TIFF dollars and everything. U they've 356 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:13,039 set up all that and they are also the ones that run all the numbers on the 357 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:19,279 homes. Uh I think personally the numbers they use are light. um because they're 358 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:22,080 figuring home values at $350,000 and I think that ship is sailed. I hate to say 359 00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:26,559 it. >> We'll see what we can do and I guarantee 360 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:29,360 you can read these documents and still sit there and scratch your hand, you 361 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:35,640 know, one reading. >> Okay. So, we'll work on setting that up 362 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,640 sooner rather than later. 363 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,880 » See if everybody 364 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Thank you. Okay. 365 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,720 20261 motion for 366 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,279 » make a motion for second reading. Ordinance 20261 367 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:09,200 second. This is the ordinance that's creating a 368 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:16,560 municipal electric utility to be known as an a bill public power and I this 369 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:20,639 will be up for third reading the next meeting 370 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:28,000 and then a resolution for a second reading number 01 2026 371 00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:30,800 and a motion for second reading the annexation. 372 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,800 » I'll make a motion. >> Second. 373 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:42,720 Okay, Darl. Second [clears throat] resolution accepting 374 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:50,560 the resolution 01 1226 petition for annexation of 485.957 375 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:56,839 acres from the Harrison Township to the village of Nashville and declaring 376 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,839 emergency misal 377 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,839 Did we vote to accept separated? You don't vote. 378 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,320 » You don't have to. >> We don't have to. Okay. We're going to 379 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:13,359 go next. >> Yep. 380 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:19,680 » Beth, did you want to bring up old business? Did you see my email? 381 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:24,200 » It's about what you the special meeting. It can be Yep. It can be handled. 382 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,240 James 383 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:48,160 like to thank for driving a lot of giving us the the venue audio video. 384 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:51,760 Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for that. Um I think there are a number of open 385 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:56,400 questions and I think we need to talk through 386 00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:01,680 agenda topics some of the key questions I have number of key questions that I 387 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:07,960 think we need to answer at that meeting and I I'll share those email you know 388 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,960 with everyone um 389 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:18,160 » sure now I'm fine with yeah um 390 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:24,240 So, my thinking on this town hall on the 391 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:31,760 28th is that this should be an Asheville focused. 392 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:37,440 Um, with respect to Mixie, I apologize. I I didn't catch your last name. Um, I 393 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:41,480 feel rather strongly that Edge Connect should not be a presenter at this time. 394 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:45,119 And here's why. >> [clears throat] 395 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:50,240 » The re my reason being that if we're counting the September meeting when Mr. 396 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:55,359 Hireman was here at first office council the town hall the last council meeting 397 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,720 in this council meeting that's been four opportunities. 398 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:05,839 If Edge connects is on the stage with council ears will immediately be closed 399 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,560 and this will turn to a contentious meeting is my feeling. Now, they're 400 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:15,280 welcome to be in the building, grab a seat, ask a question or respond to a 401 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,200 question maybe as if we have audience comments, but my personal feeling is 402 00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:23,200 that we need to, you know, this gets into a little bit of logistics, but we 403 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:28,320 need to have some presentations on where we are at the village visav what parcels 404 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:34,240 are we talking about and annexation. We're hearing a lot of 200 acres, 500 405 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:40,160 acres, 700 acres. you know, folks that aren't immersed in this every day don't 406 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:44,640 understand exactly what that means. So, I think we 407 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:49,040 need to have a this is what we're talking about and and and let me back up 408 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:53,680 and say that this meeting should not be a 409 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:58,320 pitch for a data center and it shouldn't be a session bashing a data center. This 410 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:02,720 should be us presenting the facts in so far as what parcels are we talking 411 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,800 about, what is zoned where, what authorities does this council have, what 412 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:12,720 goes into zoning, what's the situation with the water, have we built a mutually 413 00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:18,079 agreed upon plan with the EPA. Um, as Miss Moore said, I tend to agree that 414 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:22,351 the EPA is not in the business of shutting down your water if you're 415 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,520 making a good faith effort to improve. [clears throat] Right? Right. So I think 416 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:29,599 we need there are a lot of I mean I've got 15 or 20 questions here so I won't 417 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:34,720 go through all of those but I feel rather strongly that this needs to be a 418 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:38,480 village discussion and Edge Connects is welcome to be there in the crowd and if 419 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,160 they want to respond to questions but I think that we start off with 420 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:46,800 presentation and then we open it up for a dialogue between the community and us 421 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,040 outside of you know the typical council meeting where it's not a dialogue. Let's 422 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,480 have a dialogue after we've presented. This is where we are and what everyone 423 00:38:52,560 --> 00:39:00,400 needs to consider cuz again five of us have less than 3 months of tenure here. 424 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:05,040 So, we're learning as we go as well. Um I'll get off my soap box now. No, 425 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:09,599 » I mean that's that's that's great. I think we're all great ideas. Um you and 426 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:14,400 I should definitely sit down and put together agenda an agenda. I think since 427 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:16,400 we've got you know less than maybe a week, week and a half to get that put 428 00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:21,359 together. >> Yeah. Um I I do want to open it up to 429 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:27,760 everybody in council and get their thoughts on Edge Connects being either a 430 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:32,720 presenter or being present even in the building. Um this is something that I um 431 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,800 I weigh on a little bit. I've been back and forth um just because I do agree 432 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:43,119 with Jeff that it should be a national town hall. Uh but I do feel like um like 433 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,160 you said, we're not all um experts yet. We're all really new. there just a lot 434 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,000 of stuff going on that we're not fully up to speed on. So, Edge Connects can 435 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,160 answer some of those questions that we might not be able to. Um, so I do like 436 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:58,000 the idea of them being in the building. Um, but I also like your concept of them 437 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,400 maybe just not being a presenter, but just being there available to answer 438 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:07,800 questions as needed. So, that's my take on it, but I think everybody in council 439 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,800 should weigh in and give us 440 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,137 » a very [clears throat] 441 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:21,760 town hall. This is for the pe the people to ask the question and if they want 442 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:26,800 technical detail what kind of answer we can you know hear 443 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:30,960 too many exact 444 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:36,960 » and so you know I count the invention as less brings to the patient and won't be 445 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:45,599 give them the chance to ask the questions I'm okay with in clarity with 446 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:49,839 zoning issues and things like that that responsibility. 447 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:53,280 » I think it would be a great time to also with clarity to the whole village of 448 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:56,400 Asheville letting everybody know where we stand as far as the 200 acres that 449 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:01,200 are already in here what is being done on that what will be done on that where 450 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:05,680 do we stand on that as far as I think something will be built on it. I just 451 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,800 want the clarity from from building administrator, village administrator and 452 00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:14,280 everything else as far as what is going to be done at at 200 with or without the 453 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:23,520 » and I also I agree and I agree and I don't think that having this town hall 454 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:28,800 second town hall with educates potentially presenting but I do feel you 455 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:34,000 know I do feel that there's a lot that this 456 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:39,760 understand where is what 457 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:45,280 candidly there's been conflicting messaging about the last 6 months 458 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:51,040 » and that has frustrated a lot of boats caused a lot of anxiety and anger and I 459 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:56,400 think that is why I feel that we need and it doesn't have to be long but I I I 460 00:41:53,839 --> 00:42:00,160 think it should be more there should be a lot of dialogue with 461 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:04,960 the community but I do think we need a baseline understanding Hopefully that 462 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:08,480 will alleviate the anxieties cuz folks just don't understand everything that 463 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:10,160 needs to be considered >> with this decision. 464 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:15,359 » No, and [clears throat] I I agree with you on that, Jeeoff, that that what I 465 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:20,000 what I think too in regards to that is for purposes of this type of meeting, 466 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,680 you get too deep in the weeds on technical details. You're getting too 467 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:28,319 deep in the weeds on technical details in my in my opinion because a lot of 468 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:34,640 these things were done long before I was even on council. Um the we we have 469 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:39,599 zoning in certain places, we have we have parcels in certain places and I 470 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:43,440 would rather have have a town hall where we sit and we talk with each other about 471 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:48,000 what what is it what is Asheville right now? What where where is our zoning? 472 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,800 What what do we have right here? Um, and then if we were to if we were to annex 473 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,000 this property, of course, that that comes in there, but there's also 474 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,079 property in Asheville, that's that's been zoned a long long time ago, was 475 00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:02,560 zoned limited industrial uh for the purposes of having a corridor where you 476 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,599 could do whether manufacturing or whatever. And I don't know what was 477 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:12,400 contemplated back then. We're talking 20 years ago. Um, but so I in my in my 478 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:16,079 world, I would much rather um sit and talk with where are we? What are our 479 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,880 options? because we hear a lot of well you guys you guys can't do this or you 480 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,400 can't do this or you can't do this and you can't do this and there's there's 481 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:26,319 nuances and there's things between all of that and and I think it's just best 482 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:31,280 for us to to get in a room with ourselves like we do here um and have a 483 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,599 nice presentation and and talk about it a little bit without getting 484 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:38,160 contentious. I think we're all on the same team in some fashion around here. 485 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,240 Uh we better be cuz we're we don't you know hang together or hang separately as 486 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,160 they always say. So so we need we need we need to look out for our town. Um, so 487 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,240 but I think that would be make more sense from from my standpoint because as 488 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:53,119 I said, it's just like we were talking about 489 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,119 with these things here with with these numbers on the NCA. Somebody could walk 490 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,280 up to me and start talking to me about a data center or some technical thing. I 491 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:04,960 they could be speaking, you know, anything a foreign language. I wouldn't, 492 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:09,440 you know, I'm not an expert in that and I'm not going to be an expert in 30 493 00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:13,680 seconds. So I I think I'd like the people of Asheville to know where the 494 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:16,560 people of Asheville stand because I think we know I I know where the people 495 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,240 of Asheville stand pretty much I think. But um but there are some there's some 496 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,880 disagreements and there's there's two sides to every issue and and I'm hearing 497 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:29,119 things from from all different sides. So um to my way of thinking I think that 498 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:32,480 would be a better better avenue for the first time out because I think we'd all 499 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:38,000 Jeff made a very good point. Nothing against the Econex people, but when 500 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:42,319 they're on the stage, ears can be closed and and if they're 501 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,160 not on the stage and you're just talking to us, depending on your neighbors, 502 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:49,359 okay, then we can talk and that's and that's and that's what we want to do. 503 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:55,359 That's what I want to do personally. So that's that's my stand. 504 00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:59,960 » So Darl, where are you at with the edge connects presenting or what what are 505 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,960 your thoughts? 506 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:07,560 » Sure. Yeah, I guess the town people 507 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,079 ask 508 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:24,880 Broadway just when you mention the village of Asheville, you have just the 509 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:30,160 village of Asheville or is it open to northern counties? Well, the it's be a 510 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,680 public meeting, so whoever want can attend. But what what I'm when I'm 511 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:38,640 talking about the village of Asheville, I'm say I'm what I'm envisioning is the 512 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:46,079 council is on stage and Mr. Mayor will be on stage, the solicitor, Bert, um the 513 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:51,119 representative from zoning or folks to that can at least address some of the 514 00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:57,119 this is where we are on some of the key questions, right? And again, 515 00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:01,440 my position is not that this should be a pro data center session. And I think if 516 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:08,240 Edge Connects is on stage, that's what it looks like. And perception is it also 517 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:14,000 shouldn't be a bash data center session. This should just be this is kind of what 518 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:19,520 exists across some of the key questions um you know directly and indirectly 519 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,319 around the data center. >> But the meeting will be public. So, 520 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,760 anyone that >> wants to attend can. 521 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,319 » Jeff, would you want our village engineer to come? He's been around for 522 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:34,319 about 22 years and he was he was in when everything was annexed and zoned and and 523 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:41,200 he's been around here a long time and he can tell you exactly u what's how things 524 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:45,200 went down years ago. So, >> I think that would be a good 525 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,079 and also historical 526 00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:52,319 » also Bricker Graden's environmental impact team has reached out. They work 527 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,319 for us. They don't work for Edge Connects. They have reached out and want 528 00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:01,440 to present concerns about pollution and all that 529 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,720 stuff. Um, but there again, they work for us. They don't work for them. So, 530 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:10,960 » um, >> I think that gets I hear you. 531 00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:16,480 I sort of bucketed the same thing though, Bert, in that, you know, 532 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:22,160 that gets kind of to me tangentially into, you know, objection handling the 533 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:25,760 data center. And I don't I don't think that's necessarily what it should be, 534 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,520 » but they may have answers to questions about environmental concerns that people 535 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:33,359 have. And that's kind of where I'm at. I mean because a lot of what I hear is 536 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:39,599 concerns about runoff waters and the creeks and the streams and this and what 537 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,119 » have them available for questions, you know, 538 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:44,079 » well, I mean, they're going to cost quite a bit of money to come down 539 00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:47,680 because they get paid by the hour. >> So, we're not going to if we're not 540 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:53,119 going to use them, then I assume they stay home. My thought process would be 541 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:58,800 if we're putting this thing together um for the village and I would say we don't 542 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,119 spare spare any expense if you have everything available 543 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,880 » no harm in 544 00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:17,000 » I think it's important though that we ask citizens to prepare questions ahead 545 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,000 of time but not seen 546 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,680 Gary, what's your thoughts on actually presenting or just being available for 547 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:29,040 question? >> Um, 548 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:32,319 I think we've heard a lot of the technical details. I'm not sure that 549 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,319 there's a lot of new information that they're going to be able to provide to 550 00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:40,400 us in that particular session. So, I think it's it's valuable for us to just 551 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:44,000 have a conversation as a community about what it is that we want to see happening 552 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:52,359 within our community. have any kind of external force exerting 553 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,359 any kind of sway one way or the other 554 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,720 certainly agriculture. 555 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,200 Let's get the other 556 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,480 we need a motion for the special meeting 557 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,000 the 558 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:42,319 » Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, for new business, uh, 559 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:46,400 I had a resident, uh, reach out to me in the past couple weeks and shared a 560 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:50,480 interesting article with me. Um, I created a memorandum for you folks on 561 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:57,680 council, councilman, to take a look at, you as well, mayor. Um, but essentially 562 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:02,480 it it uh after I did some reading on um nuclear reactors and small modular 563 00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:07,839 reactors, it it seemed like that may be a good thing to potentially have looked 564 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:12,720 at or defined in our zoning, especially with uh the stuff in New Albany with I 565 00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:16,720 know they're not necessarily generating nuclear power, but just that brings up a 566 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:20,960 lot of questions and um some uncertainties. So, uh, I did some 567 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,880 research and I would like to move that council refer the question of how 568 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:28,319 nuclear power generation, including small modular reactors, should be 569 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:32,800 defined or regulated within the village zoning code, to the plating and zoning 570 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,079 commission for evaluation and recommendation. 571 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,440 » Got a motion? >> Yes, I'll second that. 572 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,440 » Okay. 573 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,040 » I 574 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,000 » I think you want to get ahead of that. What's the material that have an issue 575 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,720 for >> cells? 576 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:56,720 That's a good get ahead of it. >> Yeah. So, we don't have any just to be 577 00:50:54,559 --> 00:51:01,760 clear, we don't have any issue of that, but it's more of a preparation getting 578 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:06,090 getting prepared, >> not kicking the cane. 579 00:51:04,780 --> 00:51:08,079 [laughter] [clears throat] 580 00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:11,240 » Well, if you're going to do something, we need 581 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:21,200 loopholes and we need to define it. So, there any committee reports? 582 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:25,760 » Um, not a report per se, but for the park there, uh, we'll want to get 583 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,280 together. There are a few things over the next couple months that we'll want 584 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:34,319 to move on with the Westside Park, Mr. Mayor, and then um, also as the state is 585 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:40,640 doing their capital budgeting, maybe opportunities for the main 586 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:44,720 other things. So, I I both we may want to set up a meeting soon. Yeah, we have 587 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:49,359 some really good uh community members that are joining us that 588 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,119 keep the special needs group to help with that and I'll see what connections 589 00:51:51,440 --> 00:52:00,839 I have with school on special needs to try to touch base on that as well. 590 00:51:56,559 --> 00:52:00,839 » Council have their committee assignments 591 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:09,559 » you didn't officially approve it at the last meeting. 592 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,000 Well, you said 593 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:25,000 » no, I mean you appoint him to where you want him and then pass it and that's 594 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000 done. 595 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:41,559 Okay. Thank you. 596 00:52:46,961 --> 00:52:48,981 » [clears throat] 597 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:15,960 » I have the [clears throat] properation for the post 598 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,960 office 250 599 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:24,880 council should pass the resolution. Would that be 600 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,920 right? April something to that effect. Just 601 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:31,920 » you can Yeah, just read it and then I can prepare. 602 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,720 Oh, I thought she gave me the resolution. 603 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:40,680 » We will do that the next meeting. >> Yeah, go ahead and read it. 604 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680 » Okay. 605 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:51,280 United States post office the predecessor of the modern postal service 606 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:58,000 one year earlier than the founding of the country itself and or US postal 607 00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:02,480 service is operated as a basic and fundamental service provided to the 608 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:07,440 people by the government of the United States and authorized by the US 609 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:14,240 Constitution and created by an act of Congress to bind the nation together and 610 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:19,200 whereas The universal service obligation USO in current law enables the 611 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:24,240 population to receive equal and affordable service as a right of all 612 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:29,680 people. And whereas the postal service runs on its own revenue created by 613 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:35,440 postage and postal products and does not receive taxpayer money to run its 614 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:42,559 operation in. Whereas due to his public mission, the postal service and lowcost 615 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:48,000 anchor of the $1.3 trillion banning and package industry which supports 7 616 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:52,640 million jobs across the country. And whereas the postal service is an 617 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:58,079 important source of good living wage jobs with fair hiring practices and 618 00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:03,520 equal pay for equal work and is one of the largest employer. 619 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:09,680 And whereas while communication habits are always changing, the USPS remains a 620 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:14,640 vital source of communication, the exchange of ideas, financial 621 00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:20,960 transactions, private and secure correspondence, mail order medications, 622 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:25,920 mail and voting and e-commerce packages. and whereas the United States Postal 623 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:30,880 Service is owned by the people and is a wonderful national treasure 624 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:35,839 encapsulating the vessel exhibited by and for the people. Now therefore be it 625 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:40,319 resolved that the village of Asheville goes on record in support and 626 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:46,640 appreciation of the role of the US postal service to the American public on 627 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:51,520 its 250th anniversary and salutes the hardworking postal workers from all 628 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:56,720 walks of life who serve the people and business communities and we support a 629 00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:02,079 robust and thriving public service for generations to come. Be a result that 630 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:07,599 this body recognizes the local presence of postal workers and postal facilities 631 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:12,319 and has been an essential part of our civic infrastructure supporting small 632 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:17,839 businesses facilitating government services and contributing to the quality 633 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:23,280 of life and economic vitality of our community. Being resolved, we wish to 634 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:29,839 honor the men and women past and present who have served in USPS with dedication 635 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:35,040 in fair weather and foul, ensuring that every address in our region, state, and 636 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:40,400 nation remains reachable and our national communications network remains 637 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:46,720 resilient. In witness here, this proclamation has been issued on this 638 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:50,760 20th day of January of 2026 and signed by Mayor Langer Cole. 639 00:56:53,599 --> 00:57:01,440 Um, as far as just a brief comment, few comments about 640 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:08,799 the mayor, um, I've asked two of our people to put 641 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:14,880 in action putting together a couple of banners in commemoration of the 250th 642 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:22,240 birthday of the United States and to look at have at some kind of insignia on 643 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:31,119 all village vehicles on the 250th birthday and possibly finding uh flags 644 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:37,200 that we can put around the town or around the main streets in Asheville uh 645 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:43,280 with the American flags to commemorate this 250th anniversary. My hope is that 646 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:47,839 there will be a banner on the village office and a banner on the police 647 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:52,880 department and maybe even we can get help with a banner as you come into 648 00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:57,400 town. Maybe I don't know on the railroad overpass or something to that effect. 649 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:06,240 April, do you have anything to report? >> No. [clears throat] 650 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:10,400 » I have two audience comments. 651 00:58:10,535 --> 00:58:17,040 » [clears throat] >> you have comments? 652 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:20,319 Yeah, just uh very briefly uh I'm speaking as an individual and I just 653 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:24,799 want to say that I've witnessed c certain data centers making application 654 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:30,640 certain villages and the structure of the deal always seems to be I'd like to 655 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:35,440 have the zoning change first and then I will put into writing and you know 656 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:41,920 commit to whatever donations are coming to I think this has a structural of a 657 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:45,920 negotiation that is all backwards. Here's another example of a very 658 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:51,359 backwards negotiation uh to for the village to ask a data 659 00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:54,720 center write us a blank check please and then we'll give you the zoning and then 660 00:58:52,640 --> 00:59:00,160 we'll fill in whatever we want in the way of a blank check both side both 661 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:05,119 types of uh structures for a negotiation will be very unsatisfactory to one of 662 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:09,520 the two parties so I think that you should look at having anybody who wants 663 00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:14,240 to have any kind of development whether it's a data center anything they should 664 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:18,880 make a binding letter of intent what they intend to do as part of their uh 665 00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:22,799 determinate if they're if they are going to make any promises to the uh 666 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,079 community. I just [clears throat] think that they should put that in writing um 667 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:31,920 and have that be available for the uh council before the final vote is taken. 668 00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:37,051 That's all that I have to say. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 669 00:59:35,031 --> 00:59:37,051 [clears throat] 670 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:55,280 I'm Patty Hamilton, 22798 Morris Lice Road, Southville, Ohio. Um, good 671 00:59:52,799 --> 01:00:00,559 evening, gentlemen. Uh, I want to ask the council to remember that integrity 672 00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:06,480 and transparency are the cornerstones of everything that is done in government 673 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:10,400 and business. Please think about the information that has been given to you 674 01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:15,040 as a council and remember that any company that decides to give false 675 01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:20,079 information like saying they are going to be a town there's going to be a town 676 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:25,680 hall and then the citizens show up and they call it an open house. Then a 677 01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:31,200 presentation was done and a gentleman emphasized the positive impact of data 678 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:36,880 centers could have on local schools and how the TA Valley levy failed the last 679 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:41,839 two consecutive years. He stated the proposed data center would secure 680 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:47,760 funding and provide opportunities, particularly access to technical and 681 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:53,359 educational resources that would better prepare students for their future 682 01:00:49,280 --> 01:01:00,240 careers. Let me quote Mr. hireman. I quote, "I know that for an absolute fact 683 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:04,400 because I just got done going doing the Millerport data center project with the 684 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:09,040 Walnut Township School District out there. There's a new gymnasium being 685 01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:14,480 built and there's millions and millions of dollars going to new technology and 686 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:20,400 new educational resources to prepare these students." That's not me speaking. 687 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:25,520 That's me making not making something up. that's real." End quote. However, 688 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:31,040 the Circleville Herald did some fact-checking and contacted Walnut 689 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:37,040 Township local schools to verify Mr. Hyman's statement. Superintendent Kim 690 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:42,559 Rodolovich stated that currently there aren't any plans for a new gymnasium or 691 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:48,559 new technology initiatives within the district. Nor has the district received 692 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:54,559 any direct co contributions from Edge Connects. This is concerning a 693 01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:58,400 discrepancy in what was said. Additionally, the Herald spoke to Mr. 694 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:04,160 Rick Zabra uh going to say it wrong. Zabra, 695 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:09,359 director of economic and workforce development for Fairfield County, and he 696 01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:14,000 clarified that Edge Connects is not the developer for the data project for the 697 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:19,920 Fairfield County, rather it is Vantage Data Centers. He further explained that 698 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:24,720 Mr. Powerman works primarily with land owners and noted that construction has 699 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:30,319 not yet begun, meaning no funds have been distributed. Another discrepancy, 700 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:35,760 the Herald asked an important question to Mr. Hireman's statements were 701 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:42,000 inaccurate, misleading, premature, or simply an example of sale puffoonery. 702 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,880 Additionally, are any of these statements legally binding? 703 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:52,720 The schools and students are not leveraged for a sales pitch. So, what 704 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:58,960 else is not accurate? Where is the truth? I ask that you look for companies 705 01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:03,680 that aren't in a rush to push a project on Asheville so that the citizens can 706 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:08,160 have confidence that the project is beneficial to the community. Please 707 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:12,480 remember your oath to represent your constituents, not the pressure from the 708 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,160 company that does not know your community. 709 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:22,319 Please review the EPA regulations. I believe the new EPA regulation that has 710 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:26,720 come out, it states that you, if you need assistance resolving the issues and 711 01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:33,599 you need an extension, they're allowing assistance for requirements out to 2031. 712 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:38,720 Check it out. Uh when it comes to zoning in Ohio, there is no single statewide 713 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:43,839 statutory definition for light industrial or limited industrial as 714 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:49,200 people call it are defined in local zoning codes adopted by cities, 715 01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:53,760 townships, and counties. These local ordinances establish what the 716 01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:58,720 clarification means, what uses are allowed, and how development must occur. 717 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:04,720 Here's how the light industrial zoning is commonly defined 718 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:10,799 across Ohio municipalities. Number one, industrial and manufacturing 719 01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:18,079 uses that are clean and non-nuisance in character. Number two, operations that 720 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:22,960 don't produce significant noise, odor, dust, smoke, vibration, or hazardous 721 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:28,880 emissions. Number three, uses that can coexist 722 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:33,440 reasonably with less intensive neighboring land uses like commercial or 723 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:39,280 residential. And number four, warehousing, assembly, 724 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:44,720 processing, distribution, and similar activities that have minimal external 725 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:49,680 impacts. Based on the information, I believe the annex annexation should not 726 01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:53,599 go forward. And I ask that you take everything into consideration and 727 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:59,359 remember your oath to the people to oppose the data center if that's what 728 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:05,359 the will of the people is. I also say, you know, uh, Councilwoman Martin 729 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:10,079 mentioned about the different companies that are coming in and asking for 730 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:15,280 exceptions so quickly. We think that the property here in Pickaway County is not 731 01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:20,720 as important and we definitely need to give tax abatements. Well, I say to you, 732 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:25,680 why are we giving tax abatements to these big corporations or companies? You 733 01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:30,319 aren't giving a tax abatement to your citizens who desperately need them 734 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:34,960 because of the inflationary prices. Like I have mentioned many times, there are 735 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:39,680 half a million Ohioans that are delinquent on their property taxes. They 736 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:44,319 wish they had the tax abatement that is being given to commercial property 737 01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:50,200 owners and corporations. So, please take that into consideration. 738 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,200 Thank you so much for your time to 739 01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:06,480 » Yeah. The only thing I was going to mention um where are we with the uh 740 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:10,720 results from the polls from the village? Do we have any feedback on that? When 741 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:14,559 we'll have that data, >> I'll email it all out to you when we'll 742 01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:18,079 be ready. It's >> on your desk. 743 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,039 » Oh, okay. I'll email out to all you tomorrow. 744 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,319 » Okay. >> Thank you. 745 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:26,720 » Will that include raw data? >> No. All you'll get is results because if 746 01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:31,280 you have raw data, then you have access to to all the uh account numbers and all 747 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:35,119 that stuff. >> Can we get redacted or blinded 748 01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:38,559 anonymized? >> It's just not included. The account 749 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,760 numbers stuff are just not on. I don't know what you're referring to as raw 750 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,200 data. You'll have all the comment sections and all that stuff. 751 01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:51,720 » That's what I'm not looking for executives. 752 01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:51,720 » Yeah, it's a section. 753 01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:00,039 » No. 754 01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:07,559 » Um, thanks. Be nice to each other. See you in a week. 755 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:16,880 uh just today. Thanks for your continued engagement and participation. 756 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:22,359 See you next week. Appreciate the audience attention to make some motion.