1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:08,480 Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the Asen Township Board of 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:15,719 Commissioners meeting for Wednesday, August 12th, 2026. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,719 And please rise for the pledge 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:25,560 to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it 5 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:25,560 stands. One nation, 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,800 liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:41,520 Okay. Item three, review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of 8 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:45,600 July 15, 2026. >> I make a motion to approve the minutes 9 00:00:42,879 --> 00:00:49,600 of the regular meeting of July 15, 2026. >> We have a motion and a second. Any 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:56,719 comments or questions? All in favor signify by saying I. I. Nazs. Eyes have 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:01:00,960 it. We move into item four, which is committee reports. 12 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:04,559 Commissioner Tinzy. >> Thanks, Commissioner Higgins. Uh, I'll 13 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:12,400 be brief for the permits and license report. Uh, this report is for, uh, July 14 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:17,759 2026. We had a beginning balance of $47,185. 15 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:22,240 The total revenue collected during the month of July, including from permits, 16 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:30,720 electrical, as well as plumbing and heating, uh, totaled $28,365. 17 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:36,439 Uh the total for 2026 so far this year or the first half of 2026 was $435,550. 18 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:44,640 Additionally, uh the report out in the ordinance 19 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:49,600 report, we did not meet in uh July uh or quite frankly I guess at this 20 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:54,000 point um August and we are scheduled to meet again in uh September. That's the 21 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:59,040 end of my report. >> Reports 22 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:02,560 Mr. Bry. >> Thank you, President Higgins. Uh, there 23 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,840 will be no police report this month. I'll do both of them next month. 24 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:10,560 » Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner Prenast. Thank 25 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:16,319 you, Commissioner Higgins. Public Public Works activity report for July 2026. 26 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Month of July is typically the month of warm and humid temperature along with 27 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:24,080 stormy weather. This July lived up to it. The following report highlights the 28 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,160 main activity of the public works department. With the humid and wet 29 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:32,879 conditions, the vegetation around town grows like wildfire. The cutting crews 30 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,120 were busy with constant cutting throughout the month. The crew the crews 31 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:42,000 did not did the yearly job of setting up, breaking down and cleaning up for 32 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:47,599 the fireworks of July. The road crew repaired sink holes on the following 33 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:52,480 streets. Judy Way Moser and at Arbor public works installed no truck signage 34 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:58,239 at Mount Mount and federal intersections. The sanitation department 35 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:03,280 picked 73 tons of recycling and 572 tons of residential waste. Monday, September 36 00:03:00,959 --> 00:03:07,519 7th, public works will be closed. Monday's trash and recycling will be 37 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:11,599 picked up on Tuesday, September 8th, along with the Tuesday's normal trash 38 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:16,640 and recycling day. Branch chipping along with metal and appliance pickup will be 39 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:20,879 September 14th to September 18th on your scheduled trash day. That's into my 40 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,879 report. >> Thank you, Commissioner Doerty. 41 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:32,799 » I have before me the treasures report for July 2026. Uh operating cash in the 42 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:35,799 general fund as of July 31st, 2026 1,470,49. 43 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:42,840 Other funds include the TD Bank escro checking account with a balance of 44 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,840 $442,356. 45 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,840 The 2022 pleet account with a balance of $649,74. 46 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:55,319 The TD Bank 2022 bond account with a balance of $1,73,311. 47 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:01,239 The TD Bank capital checking account with a balance of $6,22,849. 48 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:09,280 and the TD Bank liquid fuels checking account with a balance of $424,315. 49 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:14,760 Total cash balance for the township as of July 31st, 2026, 10,128,284. 50 00:04:14,959 --> 00:04:23,520 That concludes my report. >> Thank you, Commissioner Bowden. 51 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:27,600 » Thank you, Commissioner Begin. >> Thank you, Commissioner Higgins. Um, I 52 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:31,440 do not have a report this month from the Asen Township Fire Department. Um but do 53 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:37,360 have an update from the acid ambulance authority. Um total incidents if you 54 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:41,360 look at just for July 2026 336 total incidents. Remember this isn't just 55 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:45,600 absent township but it's broader. Um average response time excellent job at 56 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:49,440 at about 6 and a half minutes. And average on scene time is about 18 57 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:54,479 minutes. So again just a reminder in terms of ALS and paramedic care that's 58 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:58,960 that that deep attention and care. So it takes time when folks are out there. So, 59 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:03,440 uh, good job by, um, by the ambulance authority this month. Um, also just a 60 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:08,320 reminder, um, as I've done in previous months with the, uh, the wall that 61 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:11,360 heals, um, that's the traveling Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Folks aren't familiar 62 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,840 with the term, the wall that heals. People probably are familiar with the 63 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Vietnam Veterans Memorial. It's in Washington DC. This is affiliated with 64 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:22,000 that memorial. It's about 3/4 of the size and it travels all around the 65 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,240 country. Um, you have to apply to be nominated to have it hosted in your 66 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,919 municipality. lucky enough in Aston. I believe it's the first time it's coming 67 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,360 to Delaware County in about 25 years uh when it was in Marcus Hook. So very 68 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,039 excited about it'll be here in October. Um for people that are interested, they 69 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,800 know folks that are interested. There's information on our website. You can call 70 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:44,320 Bill Kelly in terms of the staff. If you want to volunteer, get engaged, do 71 00:05:42,479 --> 00:05:49,199 anything you need. We need all different volunteers in different uh capacities, 72 00:05:47,039 --> 00:05:53,919 even people that are just there to help um you know, as orient people as they 73 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,960 come. But uh a lot more to come on it. But just want to plug that again for 74 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,564 anybody that's here today or listening at home. So that's it for my reports. 75 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:05,840 Commissioner Higgins. Thank you, sir. [clears throat] 76 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,560 » Okay. Item number five, approval of the treasures report. 77 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,840 » I make a motion to approve the treasures report. 78 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:15,520 » We have a motion and a second. Any comments or questions on the report? All 79 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:22,080 in favor say I. >> I. Nays. Eyes have it. Number six, 80 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:24,160 approval of the bills and payroll report. 81 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:27,360 » I make a motion to approve the bills and payroll report. 82 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,319 » We have a motion and a second on the payroll report. Any comments or 83 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,319 questions? All signify by saying I. >> I. 84 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:39,680 » I. >> Okay. We move to 85 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:45,440 item seven, open to the public, agenda items only. One half hour. Agenda items 86 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:50,400 only. for those that are here from uh down Buttlane and so forth, Schubert 87 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:54,080 Lane, uh there's a second one and we'll take your questions at that point in 88 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:59,360 time. Okay, that's the normal that's the standard. Okay. All right. So, anybody 89 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:04,599 want is anybody wish to come up and have any comments in regard to what's on the 90 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,599 agenda today? 91 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,639 All right, seeing none, we'll move on to item eight, new business. 92 00:07:10,994 --> 00:07:18,000 [clears throat and cough] Consider a motion to approve the 93 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:24,400 agreement with Clifton Larson Allen LLP for conducting the 2025 Aston Township 94 00:07:21,039 --> 00:07:27,039 financial audit not to exceed $35,000. Commissioner Dockerty. 95 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:32,240 » I make a motion to approve the agreement with Clifton Larson Allen LLP for 96 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:36,240 conducting the 2025 Aston Tatcha financial audit not to exceed $35,000 in 97 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,319 the form of a motion. >> Second. 98 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:44,960 » We have a motion and a second. Any comments, questions? All in favor say I. 99 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:51,759 » I. Nays eyes have it. Item B, under new business, consider a 100 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:56,639 motion to approve the refund of $114 to Cole Roofing of Glenn Mills for a 101 00:07:54,879 --> 00:08:00,879 project that was cancelled. Commissioner McInn. [clears throat] 102 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:06,639 » I make a motion to approve the refund of $114 to Coal Roofing of Glenn Mills, PA 103 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:11,599 for a project that was canceled. >> Comments and questions? 104 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:16,879 All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. 105 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:22,879 » Nays. Eyes have it. Item C. Consider a motion to approve the tax refund to 106 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:29,759 Richard and Amy Barry 700 Tryans Road Aston PA19014 107 00:08:25,039 --> 00:08:33,120 in the amount of 2000 excuse me $25.94 due to property being reassessed. 108 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:37,279 Commissioner Bur. >> Thank you, President Higgins. I make a 109 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:45,440 motion to approve the tax refund to Richard Namy Barry 700 Tryans Road Aston 110 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:49,519 PA 1 19014 in the amount of $25.94 due to the property being reassessed and 111 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:53,200 that's in the form of a motion. >> We have a motion and second. Any 112 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:58,399 comments or questions? All in favor signify by saying I. I. Nazs. Eyes have 113 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:02,320 it. Move on to ESCO releases number nine. 114 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Commissioner McInn. >> Thank you, Commissioner Higgins. just 115 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:10,399 have one for this month. I make a motion to approve engineering fees to be paid 116 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:15,800 to Pannonian Associates for the month of August 2026 in the amount of $4,01. 117 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:21,839 » We have uh we have a motion to second. Any comments or questions on the escros? 118 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:27,760 All in favor say I. >> I. Nays eyes have it. 119 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:32,880 Now we move on to number 11. Other business 120 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:36,720 excuse me sorry. open to the public one half hour. 121 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Anybody that's wants to come up, say something, please uh when you get up 122 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:45,640 here, uh state your name and then uh the subject you want to bring to our 123 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,640 attention. 124 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,959 Name and address, sir. 125 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:28,959 might be now. Okay. Um, so this has occurred twice now. Um, I think I speak 126 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:34,480 for everybody when I say that none of us have a problem with people throwing a 127 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:39,360 party or having people over. We all do it. Um, but this is nothing like 128 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:45,519 anything I've seen before to be honest with you. Um, cars flood the street. The 129 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:54,720 house is flooded with people. There's got to be over a hundred at least. Um, 130 00:10:50,720 --> 00:11:01,440 loud cursing. Uh, I had two condom wrappers left on my front lawn where my 131 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:07,200 daughter plays. She's 6 years old. Um, my neighbor uh actually ended up calling 132 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:11,279 the police the first night around 3:00 4 in the morning because two of the 133 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:16,720 partygoers were having sex on their lawn. Um, they were arrested, but they 134 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:21,680 actually ended up coming to the party Tuesday night as well. Um, 135 00:11:19,897 --> 00:11:27,120 [clears throat] when they were told to leave, uh, they 136 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:35,760 were driving around my culde-sac screaming, "Fucking white people. Uh, 137 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:43,839 we'll be back. See you next week." Um, they I mean, I would compare it to like 138 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:47,600 a concert happening on our street. Um, I I really don't know what to do at this 139 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:53,120 point. The thing that I'm concerned about is the fact that the owner of the 140 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:57,839 house continues to post the house on different websites trying to get over on 141 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:02,959 everybody. So when they're told not to do one thing, they try another. So I 142 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,240 think, you know, again, I speak for all of us that we're concerned that this is 143 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,079 going to continue to happen and we're hoping that you guys can find some type 144 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,120 of solution for us and I'm sure other people have other things to share with 145 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,399 you, but that's that's all I have for now. 146 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:23,680 » Thank you. Everything you said is is accurate. Um 147 00:12:18,959 --> 00:12:28,639 I I will say that uh the first one was was when I met with you folks out in 148 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:31,519 front of uh But Lane there. I believe that it happened on a Tuesday night 149 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:35,680 » last year >> back down there at 9. And then uh that 150 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,240 was the first one. And there was one. >> No, the first one was the second. 151 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:44,320 » Yeah, >> that was the second one. Yeah. when when 152 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:47,839 um when Danielle uh sent me an email on the first one, I was unaware of that one 153 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:51,600 happened and I don't know if anybody here was. I don't know if the police 154 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:54,399 were for the first one. Are you here, Nicole? 155 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,720 » Daniel. >> Danielle, I'm sorry. Yeah. So, the one 156 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:03,680 that you wrote me on originally and I responded in the red red print for you. 157 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,680 Was that one was the township called for that one? 158 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,680 » Yes, >> absolutely. 159 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:10,680 » They were because 160 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:19,120 They had a child and adults didn't know how to swim 161 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,000 » in essentially. 162 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:27,120 » So was you have to ma'am ma'am you have to wait 163 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:29,920 but you get all the time you like. >> I I want to add that there's also plenty 164 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,680 of drug use. >> So the the one the one that happened 165 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:38,639 last Tuesday I want I want to start with that one I think because that's more 166 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,639 relative relative relevance. 167 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:50,480 Okay, f folks. We we we have a transcript being made and she can't make 168 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:55,440 a transcript if everybody talks. >> Everybody's talking at one time. I can't 169 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:58,240 digest it. Okay. The one that you wrote me about, Danielle, 170 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,519 » July 21st. >> That was July 21st. 171 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:05,360 » July. >> When I found out about that for the 172 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,360 first time, All 173 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:15,360 right. You're gonna have to if you want to come up with him and talk. Okay. But 174 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:18,240 I can't digest everybody talking at one time. Okay. 175 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:21,360 » I mean, I I >> I want to hear what you have to say. 176 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Okay. >> Mike be Mike be before uh Joseph, right? 177 00:14:25,839 --> 00:14:32,160 Before Josephs the mic, can can you just give us a list of some of the websites 178 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:36,160 that you're seeing this on because we're trying to keep up and I might need it 179 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,040 down the road as evidence and that sort of thing. 180 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:43,160 » Also, homes.com. I know she was on Verbo at one point. Um, 181 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,959 » yeah, >> homes to go. 182 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,959 » Homes.com. >> Okay. 183 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,959 » If there's multiple copies, if I could have one. Thank you, Mike. 184 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,839 Let me know. Sorry, >> Danielle. 185 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,360 » Danielle, sorry. That's another Nicole I'm dealing with. 186 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:19,199 » Sure. Danielle Venudi >> Ven U TI and I live at my address to 187 00:15:16,079 --> 00:15:23,680 » 118 Butlane. BU T. 188 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:29,040 » Yep. Um, so the first one was the weekend of 189 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:33,120 July 21st. I believe the date was right around there. It was a Saturday night. 190 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:39,440 Um, that was the original one I had wrote to Mike about. Um, so I believe 191 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:44,720 that one entailed again, I would say close to 100, if not more 192 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:49,759 people. There were cars parked from one end of Buttlane all the way up to the 193 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:54,000 culde-sac all the way down. Um, and they were not leaving until 2 in the 194 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:59,519 afternoon on Sunday. Um, there were empty alcohol cans scattered through 195 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:04,560 people's yards. As he said, the condoms, the sex on the front yard, throw up in a 196 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:06,800 neighbor's driveway. Um, pure disrespect. 197 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:11,680 » That's what you wrote to me about. >> Yes. Correct. The newest one was when 198 00:16:09,839 --> 00:16:14,480 the police called and you had showed up and code enforcement that night, the 199 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:18,680 night of National Night Out. >> That was Tuesday. That was 200 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,680 » correct. 201 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:31,279 Okay. And that one is what we spoke about standing at the at the corner down 202 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:35,519 there at um where um on the corner by by the driveway, one of 203 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:41,759 your one of your neighbors. We spoke about that and that next day there was a 204 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:47,199 meeting with Chief Rajiri uh and three code people 205 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:55,199 myself uh the lister was on the phone Mr. Mr. 206 00:16:50,399 --> 00:17:02,720 Madrid. Okay. Um Bill Bill was there. Okay. And um the 207 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:08,240 whole thing was discussed. the the the owner of the house was there too. And 208 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:12,400 what Chief Regger did more than once and looked right at her, this is not going 209 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:18,400 to happen again. A party is not going to happen again. 210 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:24,640 Albert uh the Albert Ever went over with her 211 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:29,120 with all the notices, all the ordinances, 212 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:35,039 and what was posted on the door. Explain it to her. Okay. And that one notice 213 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:39,440 said that it was improper use of the property was removed from the door. 214 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:43,679 Clearly at the bottom of the report, it said that it's going to be removed by 215 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:46,880 the police, I believe, or by the code people. 216 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:49,919 Eileen, am I correct? >> Yes. 217 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:52,480 » Okay. I you know what I mean? >> Yes. 218 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:58,240 » Um, so then we moved into how everything was 219 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:01,200 wrong. what was wrong and that was not permitted in this zoning district. 220 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:07,039 » Right. >> Okay. And what typically happens when 221 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:11,440 the um uh notice the notice will go down as a 222 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:16,960 citation will go down to the district judge's office. Today I was asked in 223 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:22,559 writing why is it why the judge but that's the law. Judge has to rule on 224 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:26,080 these things. Okay. The judge is not an employee of Aston Township. 225 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,559 » Right. this. So, you know, because it was implied that why is the judge? Why 226 00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:31,360 is the judge there? >> I think that was from another neighbor 227 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:36,400 on the email, not directly. >> That was from um Laierre. 228 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:41,600 » Yes. So, I think our concern is though, too, last night she rented the house out 229 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:50,960 again. It was not a party, but there were still five or six people. Not a 230 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:54,799 » Yeah. The police, we had contacted Dawn from Codes. She said, "Call 911 for a 231 00:18:53,919 --> 00:19:00,400 non >> a non-emergent whatever the cops came 232 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,120 they were great the one guy from code enforcement but the people were able to 233 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,320 stay >> so how is this woman allowed to have 234 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,440 these people stay when it was told she can't you know what I like that's where 235 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,520 the confusion is with us >> I understand so let's talk about the 236 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:21,120 police for a moment because what I what I said in my in my email is being 237 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:26,160 disputed um there were three officers there I was told there was none there. 238 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,200 Okay. Then then that one officer went and and spoke to the some of the 239 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,799 residents at their houses. There were three officers there. 240 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,960 » There was >> Okay. So, just so that's in the record, 241 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,760 there were three officers there. >> There's no complaint. The officers the 242 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,520 officers are wonderful. >> I would say there were no officers. 243 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Yeah. >> There was uh Albert Ever was there from 244 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,000 code. >> Yeah. 245 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,760 » Came out. I don't know what time and late night was it around seven or so, I 246 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,760 think. >> Yeah. He did not speak to any of us. 247 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,880 Albert did not speak to any of us. Only the one police officer who had glasses 248 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,919 on. and he was great. >> And I Eileen was in a car. She didn't 249 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:00,799 get out of the car. I don't know if she feared something or not, but she did. 250 00:19:57,679 --> 00:20:04,720 Okay. So, and if I had been known about it, I would have come down. But for me 251 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:09,840 to be there would have not made any would made a difference because I have 252 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:12,640 no enforcement authority. Okay? I can't say to somebody, "Get out of the house. 253 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,640 You're not allowed in here." It's not it's not within my bay wick to do it, 254 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:20,000 right? >> It's not it's not permitted. 255 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:25,679 » So, that's that's what happened. Now in my correspondence to you and others um 256 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:32,880 no matter which days there are number of days um was upfront it was forthright as 257 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:39,360 to what will happen if she doesn't continue okay if she continues to do 258 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:45,679 what she's doing. All right. Uh the only only person that can rule 259 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:49,039 against uh her and padlock the house we would need to have an injunction. Right 260 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Mike? An injunction. Yeah, that's correct. So, uh, Danielle, you asked a 261 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:58,880 question and and and I don't know if Mike ended up answering it or not. So, 262 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:04,000 um, I think the question was why were these people allowed to stay and 263 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:10,159 » I think, um, you know, there there's a couple things, uh, that factor into that 264 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:13,840 decision. One is, um, she's had to refund these people for those rentals 265 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:19,679 because she wasn't allowed to use it. So, the the idea that um she's she's 266 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:24,080 making a profit there. Um you know, we're doing our best to make sure she 267 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:29,120 doesn't. Um we also charge for the police responses at this point. So, um I 268 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:36,640 think it's probably going to cost her more a night than it will to um to to 269 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:41,200 rent the thing. And uh when the police got there, I think that their judgment 270 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,760 was uh you know the people who were there were sort of innocent in this 271 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,960 whole thing. >> They truly were. But I guess the point 272 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,640 of the matter is we were told it wouldn't continue to happen, but it's 273 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,360 continuing to happen. Give me one second, Joseph. Okay. 274 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,480 » It's nothing against the people. >> She's going to rent it and those were 275 00:21:55,039 --> 00:22:00,240 the people that stayed there last night. I mean, they didn't bother her soul, but 276 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:02,000 it's the point that she was told not to do it. 277 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,000 » Well, and you're not supposed to. You're right. you know, I mean, so, so, you 278 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:10,159 know, under those circumstances, 279 00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:13,600 some judgment call needs to be made. They were out of there the next day. 280 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:18,240 They had some, they had a longer term rental than that one night. Um, the 281 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:23,840 police came, they said, uh, they evaluated the situation. Um, it didn't 282 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:28,000 seem like it was the level of offensive that everything else has been. and they 283 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:33,120 said, "You you can't stay, but you can stay tonight because I I think it was 284 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:38,320 pretty late in the day, right?" And then um uh the company that is doing the 285 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:43,600 environmental engineering over at MIPC ended up getting them a hotel and uh and 286 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:50,000 that moved on. So So to to answer your question, um you know, we are charging 287 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:56,720 for the police response. Um and we also issued a citation on that. So, um I I I 288 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:01,440 get the principle. I do. And I think everybody up on the board gets it, too. 289 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:06,640 And um you know, there are some limitations to what we can do under the 290 00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:11,520 under the municipalities planning code, but this is raised to a level that we've 291 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:15,840 had to sort of take our what we would typ our typical response would be to a 292 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:21,679 zoning violation and figure out how to step it up a little bit. And that may be 293 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:26,320 an injunctive action. Uh and um you know, mention common please though 294 00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:32,000 that's not a tomorrow thing you know it's it's a big deal and um and it's a 295 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:38,799 process so um it's something we're evaluating um a lot of times when you uh 296 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:45,360 start citing regularly people come to their senses and um from a a 297 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:49,080 governmental efficiency standpoint you know to spend the money 298 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:58,720 » um so I that's about as much of a glimpse into legal reasoning I could 299 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:02,320 probably give you. I don't want to do is lay out her whole game plan and have 300 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,159 anybody who watches a YouTube video know what's coming next. Right. Um Joseph, 301 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:11,120 you had something you wanted to say. >> Yeah. I guess my my only question here 302 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:16,720 is she's got two stickers on her window and she is clearly 303 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:23,279 moving from website to website trying to get over on you guys. you know, why is 304 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:27,440 this allowed to pass? She's got two stickers on the window 305 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,720 and and just hearing, well, we're going to let those people stay because they 306 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:36,240 were nice. I mean, I don't understand that. 307 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:41,120 » I I don't >> I hear you. Um I I think that that uh 308 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:44,960 someone was called out there and they had to make a decision um a little bit 309 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,720 in a vacuum. They didn't have the opportunity to consult with the board. 310 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,640 » It was a judge. It was a judgment decision. 311 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:54,240 » Yeah. They had to make a judgment and they made a judgment call and we you 312 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,120 know we all have the right to disagree with that judgment call. 313 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:02,480 » Right. Yeah. And listen like I mean obviously I do. But my question here is 314 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:07,279 okay you guys made a judgment call the other night. What about going forward? 315 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:12,240 Are we going to keep making judgment calls if she continues to do what she's 316 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,679 not supposed to be doing is my question. >> Yeah. 317 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:20,640 » How how how much how much rope do we give here? like how much of like you 318 00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:24,559 know what I mean like >> how many times Yeah. 319 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:31,600 » Yeah. Right. I It's a fair point and I think um you know like happened on the 320 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:40,159 20 the the big events were the 21st and I think the 11th probably no uh the 4th. 321 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:44,000 The fourth I'm sorry um the we and then we had another one it was 322 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Monday right you had you had the the attendance from Lan. Now the message is 323 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,320 proliferating among the staff and the police department and the code 324 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:57,760 department and everything else that this is an issue. So my guess and um you know 325 00:25:55,919 --> 00:26:01,279 I try not to delve into other people's psyches because sometimes you don't like 326 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:07,120 what you find but my guess is an officer got out there um evaluated the situation 327 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:12,000 um maybe knew that the parties were a problem but didn't know the scope of the 328 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:17,360 problem and and made a decision. Um, so we'll make sure we communicate with uh 329 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:21,440 with every department and hopefully uh you know you you you have a 330 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,200 more satisfactory experience next time. >> I guess 331 00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:25,840 » hopefully there's not a next time, right? 332 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:29,919 » Listen, my last question is like what what are you guys planning to do when it 333 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,000 comes to monitoring these websites? Because 334 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:36,240 » Right. >> I'm sorry, but like the way we're seeing 335 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:41,039 it posted um it's not innocent. It's not a 336 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,000 mistake. Like she's doing this. a twounit home. 337 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:49,360 » Like I said, she's trying to get over on not just us, but you guys. So, 338 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,360 » we're wondering what's going to be done when it comes 339 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:57,840 » start on every website August 15th as soon as September 1st to move in. You 340 00:26:55,679 --> 00:27:02,799 can rent the basement for 2,000 or the first floor for 3,000 or the whole house 341 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,919 for a lovely $5,000 furnished. >> Yeah. So, 342 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:09,520 » I get people can rent their homes in Aston. I just didn't realize a single 343 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,480 family home could be a multi multif family. Okay. 344 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:17,279 » It can um >> noted by today that she um she was 345 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:22,320 identified by Albert a week ago also that she cannot purchase the basement. 346 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:26,080 It's a single family only four unrelated ordinance rates. She's quite aware of 347 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:30,960 that. She came up and wanted to rent it for 6 months. Not allowed. She wants to 348 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:36,480 rent it for a year for unrelated. That's what she can do. She's left here very 349 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:41,600 upset. She feels like she's the um She's being harassed. 350 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:46,720 » So, she knows there's no more rental. 351 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:51,760 She has a cease and assist. If anybody's there, he's been notified that they're 352 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:55,120 not to stay. >> Mr. Higgins, can I ask a quick question? 353 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:00,080 » Absolutely. >> Don't we have to rent in the township? 354 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,440 You have to have a Don't you have to have an inspection? So that's the other 355 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:09,039 thing. She does not have a rental license. She tried to get a rental. She 356 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:13,120 took the applications today. Um and she also has done a lot of work with her. So 357 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:18,799 she took those and she has to get all that rectified before she can even apply 358 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:23,120 for rental license. So has the name of you know she has the name of all the 359 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:27,600 people that are renters. Um it can only be for 360 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:31,279 she was angry when she left. Um so I said you can't have anybody there until 361 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:38,240 you have a a active rental license. 362 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:43,279 So, she got rented for 6 months. >> So, even if she goes through the process 363 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,880 and does everything correctly, I want to confirm she can only have one family 364 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,799 renting that home and it cannot be like a 365 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:55,440 » So, it's it well it the the definition of family is sort of a protected issue 366 00:28:52,880 --> 00:29:00,399 at the constitutional level, right? So it the the way our ordinance reads is it 367 00:28:58,159 --> 00:29:05,360 can be up to four people unrelated living as a single housekeeping unit, 368 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:10,240 right? So you can't have like uh uh you know one person in the basement cooking 369 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,399 their meals and uh someone upstairs cooking their meals and you know it's 370 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:16,480 got to be >> right and that's how it's advertised. So 371 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,200 I just want to make sure that one family, not the Ferguson family and the 372 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:23,039 Smith family. >> It could it could be it could be four 373 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,720 people unrelated, right? Like I'm sure at some point you had a roommate, you 374 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,440 know, that sort of thing. But what it can't be, right, is like you said, the 375 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:36,080 Jones family upstairs. >> Correct. 376 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:42,080 » The the the citation was issued uh yesterday was for the most recent. That 377 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:48,240 was it's the first of a number or sec the second or third of one that was 378 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:53,840 issued. Okay. Uh the other thing is um as far as how do we stop it? Um, I think 379 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:58,799 I said in my email this uh this morning or last night, I don't know if you had 380 00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:03,520 an opportunity to say it, that uh we don't have the resources to put a police 381 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:06,240 officer there all day long because then other parts of the town will suffer and 382 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,880 there is crime in town. >> Absolutely. 383 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,559 » So that's one thing. The other thing I we can't put and I don't control that. 384 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:16,240 The police police basically run themselves. I don't give them orders on 385 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:20,399 what to do. We set policy. So, um, 386 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:27,279 Officer Razeri back there, Sergeant Roseri, uh, in the absence of, um, 387 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Chief, uh, is in charge, and I think that he understands the situation. We 388 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:36,399 can have we can have the patrol in and out more than would be normal. Mike, 389 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:41,039 would you say that would be something we can do? We keep their eyes open and if 390 00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:45,200 we, you know, if we see um a bunch of cars in the driveway, they're not her, 391 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:47,840 okay? It's somebody coming in. and then we can get them out of there. And I 392 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,720 don't care at this point whether it's two in the morning or three in the 393 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:57,360 morning, you know. I think they they got to get out. That's that's just me 394 00:30:52,880 --> 00:31:00,000 speaking. Okay. Um and and code will react like they did the other night. 395 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,159 They came out. They normally wouldn't see them out on the street at at at 396 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:10,480 night time, you know. Um so most of our issues happen in day. So 397 00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:15,600 we can't we can't go remove we can't clo lock the doors. Can't do that. Um, we 398 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:20,159 can tell people they have to move out of the property because there's a 399 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:24,320 violation. We can do that, right? And that that's what we have to do. I don't 400 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:30,720 know what other plan we can do at this point is other than to get these um 401 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,080 postings removed out there saying that the 15th it's available and so forth, 402 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,120 » you know. >> Um, I'm as troubled by this as much as 403 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,519 all of you are. I'm frustrated by it. Yeah, 404 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:45,760 » I put in a lot you I put in a lot of time trying to react to every one of 405 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:50,080 your emails. You know, I don't know what else I can do or the board can do at 406 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:56,320 this point. >> You're shaking your head. 407 00:31:53,519 --> 00:32:00,537 » Come on up. Speak, please. >> Can I sit back down? [laughter] 408 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:08,080 » My name is Matthew Ryder. address. 409 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:13,760 » 108 Buttlane. >> R I G H T E R. 410 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:17,840 » Okay. >> What's on your mind, sir? 411 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,559 » How you guys are handling this? This is ridiculous. 412 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,440 » What is your suggestion? We as a board up here have to follow the law. 413 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,679 » Yeah, I get that. >> We have to follow the law and everything 414 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:32,000 we've done. We can't go down and physically remove somebody. We're going 415 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:35,600 to grab them and pull them out board. We can't do that. We'll be sued. 416 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,200 » It's just a matter of time before something really happen bad happens on 417 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:44,080 this street. You guys are going to get one of the officers badly injured. 418 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,480 People are living in hell on this street and you guys are just sweeping under the 419 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:54,000 rug. This is BS. You guys need to take charge. You guys need to take charge. 420 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:56,320 This is insane. Taxpaying dollars are just being wasted because you guys 421 00:32:55,279 --> 00:33:01,200 aren't doing anything back. >> You're feeling that us, police, and code 422 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,519 aren't doing what they have to do. We're following the law. I can assure you 423 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,679 that. >> Okay. Well, no one's seeing any 424 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,679 difference. It's insane. This lady continues to post. You guys do nothing 425 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,240 about it. You're doing nothing about it. It's going to continue to happen. 426 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,240 » The first part of your comment. >> I'm sorry. 427 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:21,440 » Continues to post online. >> Yeah, 428 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,720 that's what it said. That's that's all >> you are you asking to go online, look 429 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:28,720 for these sites >> and they continue to come every week and 430 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:32,640 you guys keep on putting a sticker up and nothing happens. Nothing's going to 431 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,880 continue to happen. This is a joke. You're going to get an officer really 432 00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:41,840 hurt. Everyone's living in fear. This is insane. Why are we paying taxes? You 433 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:44,399 guys do nothing. This is insane. >> I got police have been up there. The 434 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,720 code people have been there. I don't know what else you expect us to do. 435 00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:48,640 » Okay. >> Um 436 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,240 » you and I have had this conversation the other night. 437 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:55,679 » Um listen, so here here's what I'll say. And 438 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,279 he's frustrated. You know what I mean? We all are. 439 00:33:56,159 --> 00:34:01,440 » I understand that. >> Yeah. I mean, I do get what he's saying 440 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:07,279 when it comes to our safety. I I mean I for hours last Tuesday night, you know, 441 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:12,639 my daughter's scared. She's in the house saying, "I'm scared." My wife is looking 442 00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:18,159 at me like, "Do not go outside." Like, "We're we're we're scared." Cars are 443 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:24,800 circling my culde-sac. They're screaming at our houses, you know. Um I want to 444 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,839 make it very clear that I have nothing but respect for the police officers. 445 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:34,879 They did a great job for what they had to work with, you know. They weren't 446 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:38,960 expecting 200 people on the street, you know. So, we're not holding that against 447 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:43,280 them. We're not We think they did a great job. We have nothing but respect 448 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:47,520 for them. Um we're just kind of concerned. And and the one thing that I 449 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:52,320 really want to bring up here is so she has two sick stickers on her window 450 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:56,800 right now. Um I [clears throat] don't know when the second sticker was posted. 451 00:34:54,399 --> 00:35:02,000 I'm assuming maybe the day after. I don't know for sure. Uh not really 452 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:06,320 important. My point is her continuing. So I I heard you earlier say we're going 453 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:09,760 to, you know, have police officers there when we can when we can, but you know, 454 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,880 obviously we we are not expecting police. 455 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,839 » Well, they will come out directly if you call 911. 456 00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:19,920 » Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I want to say >> we can have them I can have 457 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,640 » Yeah. And I want to say they were there within you know 458 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:25,440 » I'm sorry I don't mean to talk over you. I apologize. 459 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:29,920 » No, you go ahead. Yeah, I I'm saying I I want to say when we call them, they're 460 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:33,920 there within minutes. Like we have no complaints about the police. We want to 461 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,200 make make that very clear. I think Am I speaking for everybody else here? Right. 462 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:40,960 Okay. >> My my concern here is and I heard you 463 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,440 earlier say, "Hey, we'll try to get people to, you know, police to drive by 464 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:51,520 and keep an eye out, make sure nobody gives in the house." My concern are the 465 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:56,880 posts online. Shouldn't she be fined for every additional post that she has put 466 00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,480 up since those stickers went up? >> So, 467 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,119 this is going to feel like a like a distinction without a difference to you, 468 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:11,440 but unfortunately the raw law recognizes a difference. Um, you know, 469 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:18,240 posting is still protected by the First Amendment. Um, it's when it's the action 470 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:24,079 of of actually renting or or following through with the violation, right? Um, 471 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:29,040 so we can't cite her for the posts and I I get it. I I do. But 472 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:33,119 » Okay. Yeah. I'm just curious. I I I'm we're all just curious like what we need 473 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:37,680 to do here. And And you know, we're not trying to lose our cool. We're just 474 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:44,160 upset, that's all. Um we a lot of us have kids. Um 475 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:50,079 There's a lot of kids on the street. Uh it's it's um it's concerning. I I was I 476 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:53,839 listen I'm 37 years old. I don't typically get scared of crowds, but that 477 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,839 was something else. I don't know if you've seen video or if anybody's 478 00:36:55,839 --> 00:37:03,280 provided it to you. Um >> I've never seen anything like it. Yeah. 479 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:06,240 And and and listen, I have nothing but respect for you guys. I appreciate your 480 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,520 time. I just wanted to share everything with you. And 481 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:14,560 » and Mike, a question for you, a legal question. So with these different sites, 482 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,400 I'm sure there's all kinds of fine print, you know, from their lawyers, but 483 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,720 are there things we can do in terms of cease and desist or highlight them in 484 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,760 terms of the >> We did the cease and assist. 485 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,920 » All right. >> You're talking about for to the sites 486 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:32,480 who are who she's posting on. I don't think so. Um I think we can notify them 487 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:36,000 that there's a problem, there's a violation, and ask them to take it down, 488 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,800 but I don't think we can force the issue. 489 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:43,280 » Can Can I bring up one other thing, too? and and and I'm not trying to challenge 490 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,359 you or anything like that, but earlier you made a comment about all the fines 491 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:51,599 that she's facing right now, >> and it seemed like you're kind of uh 492 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,440 sympathetic towards them. >> Um 493 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,520 » if that's the imp like I I'm not sure what uh you mean by sympathetic. I gave 494 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:04,240 you the impression that I have an ounce of sympathy for this person who's not uh 495 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,880 » what I'm saying is earlier you said that she's facing a lot of fines and she uh 496 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,640 is going to have a lot of trouble paying those fines. 497 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:17,440 » Yeah. So, so let's be contextual, okay? Um because I think Danielle asked the 498 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:20,320 question, she's allowed to she's allowed to keep renting this. She's making a 499 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,400 profit, that sort of thing. And I just wanted to point out that she's probably 500 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,000 going to have more fines than she is profit. 501 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:31,280 Let me and I understand that gives you no satisfaction whatsoever, but I was 502 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,880 trying to answer one particular question. 503 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:36,720 » Okay. So, let me point out one thing too. So, for Mike, you guys don't have 504 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,480 as much experience with Mike being a solicitor for the board, but just 505 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,960 personalitywise, Mike is a just the facts guy. So, I I think from everybody 506 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:49,040 up here, you know, Mike's it's Mike's ward. Obviously, he's the closest to it. 507 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:52,400 I don't think there's anybody on this board, if you pull us right now, that 508 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:56,400 that have much sympathy for for this woman. It's not somebody I've ever met. 509 00:38:54,240 --> 00:39:00,960 I don't know anything about her. Um, but I don't but trust me, don't please don't 510 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:05,280 walk away with that impression. Mike is just his job as a lawyer and the way he 511 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,880 carries that is just just the facts, provide the advice. That's all he's 512 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,320 doing. >> And and I want to make it very clear, 513 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,640 I'm not upset with you with what you just said earlier. Uh, it's it's a 514 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,560 matter of it sounded kind of like, oh, well, we'll try to let her make some 515 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,720 money to make up for it. That's kind of how it came off. 516 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:25,200 » I'm sorry if it came across that way. It certainly wasn't intended that way, you 517 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:30,000 know. >> Yeah, that's that's all I just like I I 518 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:34,160 don't I I think this woman has done enough to uh prove that she is wrong in 519 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:39,680 every single way. >> So, I don't think there's Oh, yeah. I I 520 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:44,079 don't I don't think I don't think we should give her any room here. That's 521 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:47,440 just my opinion. >> Zero. 522 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:52,320 » I think that we we have done everything within the law to try to stop this. And 523 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:56,240 it's it's just like that when somebody doesn't cut their grass and it gets too 524 00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,560 high. The first time they get a warning, then if they don't do it, say within 525 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:05,520 making a couple a week, then they get a written notice that if it isn't done by 526 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:11,599 another date, you'll go to court. Okay? And the same thing applies to 527 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:15,440 all uh illegal activities like this. You have to go unfortunately you have to go 528 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:19,119 through a process, you know, before you can get the results. And and 529 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:23,040 unfortunately uh I probably shouldn't say this. Criminals have rights too or 530 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,880 illegal people doing illegal actions have rights. 531 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:30,079 » Yeah. >> So one more one more question and I know 532 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:35,920 um somebody mentioned videos and I understand that that we've collected 533 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:39,040 some videos off of social media. I I when I heard videos I thought maybe 534 00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:44,240 there were doorbell cameras and things like that too. If you have any videos 535 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:48,079 that aren't out on social media that we couldn't have come across, if you could 536 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:52,359 get those to the administration, it'd be useful. 537 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,359 » So, everything 538 00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:00,000 you've sent already, we've got, but if there's anything you haven't sent, I I'd 539 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:04,160 like to have it. >> Yeah. I I mean, that's it for me. I I 540 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,200 really do I I I'm not trying to rub anybody the wrong way. I'm just trying 541 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:12,160 to get our points across. And >> we appreciate what you had to say. 542 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:18,040 » Thank you very much. Thank you. >> Is anybody else um looking to come up? 543 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040 Ma'am, 544 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:30,960 » name and address, please. >> Claire Writer. R I G H T E R. Um I'm at 545 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:38,319 108 But Lane. I live right across the street and I see all the activity. My 546 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:44,319 concern is the owner has multiple vehicles with multiple 547 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:51,440 different state license plates. So you can't monitor 548 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:57,280 who is going in there. She has Maryland tags. She has Delaware tags. She has New 549 00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:03,599 Jersey tags. And she has Pennsylvania tags. Every time she arrives, she's in a 550 00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:07,839 different vehicle. So, I'm concerned for my neighbors 551 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:14,319 because I'm going to be away this weekend that 552 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:19,760 my eyes aren't on that house cuz I'm the one that saw them going in 553 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:27,359 last Tuesday and I'm the one saw them going in this Monday. 554 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:30,720 So, I appreciate your vigilance. Um, I have my own feeling of what number 555 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,160 different license plates is, but I'm not going to state it here because I'm not 556 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:39,119 going to wind up getting >> I have my ideas, too. 557 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:43,280 » Yeah. >> Would you and I I I appreciate 558 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:48,160 everything you're saying. Whoever thinks maybe that I don't, they don't know me. 559 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,200 And uh I do care. It's frustrating for me. It's 560 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,839 » Sure. It's your community, too. I mean, she's bringing our community down. But, 561 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,800 you know, don't worry about me. We're worried about you guys. We're concerned 562 00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:02,640 when you have 80 people there or 100 people and they're they're hollering 563 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:07,599 obscenities and they're climbing trees and throwing beer cans at police and all 564 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,240 that. Uh, running around half naked, right? 565 00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:14,560 » Okay. We certainly don't think that's great. That doesn't happen in an or in a 566 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,880 country like this. It shouldn't happen, you know. And we'll do everything we can 567 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:24,240 within the law to stop it. That may not please everybody, but with we're doing 568 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:29,119 what we can do at this point. >> I'm just concerned 569 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:33,040 » like with the It's summertime. It's people go away on the weekend. Who's 570 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:39,040 watching that house? Who's watching? Who's going in and out of the house? 571 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:43,800 » I I understand. Well, well said. >> Thank you. 572 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,800 » Anybody else would be interested? 573 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,440 Hi, >> my name is Maryanne McColen, 574 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:57,440 » MC CN. I live at 118 Schubrook Lane. 575 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:01,280 » Shub S H U B R O Okay. I have a question. I know that she has an FHA 576 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:03,599 loan on that home, which means it should be her primary residence. 577 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,359 » How are you, Mary? >> From what I hear, she does not live in 578 00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:13,119 that home. Is that not a direct violation right there? And under FHA, 579 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:17,839 is she allowed to rent the home? >> Well, I can't answer the part, is she 580 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:22,560 allowed to to be not be there, but he he can, you know, 581 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:28,240 » can enforce the Fair Housing Act. That's not us. Um, you're talking about an FHA 582 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:32,240 loan, right? Yeah. I mean, >> I guess we could try to find a lender 583 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:36,360 and, you know, notify him that there's been these problems, but 584 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,560 » I know who that is. [laughter] 585 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,800 » Yeah. I mean, we could go to courthouse. You said Janelle already. 586 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,040 » Yeah, >> it's on the It's on the uh county uh 587 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,040 real estate page. I think it's Core Logic. I think 588 00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,880 » it's who? >> I think it's Core Logic. 589 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,480 » No. >> No. Okay. That's what I saw there, but 590 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:57,839 » um I forget. I don't know it off the top of my head, but that's not it. Um but it 591 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,480 says she should live in the home, but from what I hear from everybody, I don't 592 00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:04,240 live I don't live there to see the comingings and goings, but from what I 593 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:09,920 heard, she does not live there. And under FHA, she should live in that home. 594 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:14,160 And the woman that does live, the woman that is there apparently occasionally 595 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,480 » is the grandmother. >> Yeah, I heard that. 596 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:20,000 » Okay. And the one thing that concerns me, I had heard this from the neighbor 597 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:25,280 who rescued the little boy out of the pool. That little boy was staying with 598 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:30,000 four men in the basement. If that is not a red flag today, I don't know what is. 599 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:34,240 So, someone should be looking into that. Who's she renting? Who's she renting to? 600 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:39,839 Four grown men and a six-year-old little boy who drowned in the pool. 601 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:44,680 That's a concern. So, it sounds like she's bringing 602 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,680 nothing good to our neighborhood. 603 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,440 So, that's it. I'm just I don't know a lot about FHA. I just wanted to I 604 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:55,119 thought maybe you could maybe shed some light on it. 605 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,480 So, but that's all I got. 606 00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:01,720 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 607 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:12,319 » Anybody else? >> I'm not ma'am. 608 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:19,280 My name is Linda Dalvo. D I S A L V O 120 Shoe Brook Lane. So I kind of corner 609 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:24,319 up to butt Raymond and Shoe Brook. Now my ring camera went nuts for the one 610 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:28,480 event that dispersed everybody in the street. Okay, I couldn't get clear 611 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:33,839 video, but obviously I heard later that there was opportunity to ask them to 612 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:37,760 leave from the Waw Wa. So for me and thank you all who are looking into this. 613 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,319 I want to know it's a quality of life issue and obviously we're very concerned 614 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,200 » is a quality of life is >> you know clearly and simply I want to 615 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:51,760 grow old and die here. I want people to raise their children 616 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:57,359 here and not have to be in fear of what's going on on their block. I have 617 00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:02,640 stepped up and tried to support the butt uh lane folks by just simply walking 618 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,720 around. see something, say something. So, obviously they have seen me. And if 619 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:12,079 they haven't, look out every once in a while and you will see me sometimes with 620 00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:15,920 my green umbrella, you know, and you can just give me a hey or whatever. My 621 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:24,160 name's Linda. But I just want to know that all due diligence is being done to 622 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:30,640 rid this. I am been in that home 56 years. Okay. We also left an area 623 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,440 because of urban blight. I know what it feels like to try to have 624 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:40,160 a better quality of life. I don't want to see Aston succumb, 625 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:46,640 okay, to the very ills that a lot of people 65 and older who migrated to 626 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:53,040 Aston Township know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm in fear. 627 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:59,280 I think all of us can understand that. I grew up off of Ninth Street in Chester 628 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:04,160 and obviously there was many quality of life issues that my parents felt it was 629 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:08,720 time for us to leave. We're witnessing some of the same things 630 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:12,480 with this kind of party going on. And from what I hear that at one point, I 631 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:16,480 don't know, and I can't substantiate it, they were saying that Aston is their 632 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:21,760 town now. >> That was a comment that was made 633 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:27,440 mentioned that. So I I I would think not. So I ask you to put all your 634 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:32,319 efforts and all your good works to support a healthy and wonderful quality 635 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:37,280 of life before you start seeing sales signs go up and because you know people 636 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:42,400 get scared they they make irrational decisions. Some that will regret them 637 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:48,319 others but we don't want that to happen a mass exodus. Okay. So, I thank you for 638 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:53,520 your time and I trust that you'll have the good intentions of our neighborhood 639 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:57,880 in and and in your heart [clears throat] and and I'll keep looking out for 640 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:06,400 » we we we share your everything you said we share. 641 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:09,800 » Okay. Would someone else want to come up or speak? 642 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:17,413 » Okay. Are you speaking, Michael? 643 00:49:15,393 --> 00:49:17,413 » [laughter] 644 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:31,839 » I just ask that you guys just keep our kids in mind since Nicole Michelle. 645 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,839 » Danielle, can you can you come up? I'm not picking up everything you're saying. 646 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:42,559 I've got some upper respiratory congestion here. 647 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:45,680 I just want you guys to keep our kids in your thought when you guys are figuring 648 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,839 out how to fix this or whatever it's going to be because that is I think I 649 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:55,520 can say for everyone our biggest concern. We have young kids and they 650 00:49:52,319 --> 00:50:00,079 like to be outside and lately they can't be outside sometimes and I don't think 651 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:04,880 that's fair to any of them. So please please just imagine your kids little 652 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,480 kids in this situation and seeing what they saw the other night. 653 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:12,400 » Right. And I just want to make one point. I I forget who I was speaking to 654 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:17,040 about this because I've I've had some uh comments. Claire, it might have been 655 00:50:13,839 --> 00:50:21,359 your husband, but about if you see something, don't just keep to yourself. 656 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:26,160 Say something if you see something. And I encourage everybody to do that. Even 657 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,559 if it's if you call 911, a police officer will show up at your door. They 658 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:34,720 have to. Okay? Uh if you're worried about the person that you're going 659 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,920 after, one of the people in the house for example, knowing who you are, the 660 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,400 police the police will know who you are, but they will respect your wishes if 661 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:46,160 they don't want your name used. I'm just >> This woman might not know our names, but 662 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:50,319 she knows it's all of us at this point. But it's just sad when a 9-year-old kid 663 00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:55,760 says, "Can we go outside or there going to be people bothering us?" That is what 664 00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:59,920 is her in this whole situation is our kids that are growing up here. I get it. 665 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,079 It's life, but it's not in our neighborhood. This is not what we moved 666 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,599 here for and grew up here with. So, that's all I'm asking is just think of 667 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:12,079 these little kids in this neighborhood and what they've seen thus far. 668 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:16,160 » I don't know who's in tomorrow, but one of the things I was thinking about 669 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:21,200 actually today before I came up here was that we need to con convene another 670 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:26,720 meeting with uh we would have Michael Rogeri, Mr. come and uh Michael might be 671 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,000 Michael the solicitor might be on the phone uh and the rest of us will be in 672 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:34,960 the conference room. will have code there and uh you know we'll we'll look 673 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:39,359 and see uh some of the things were mentioned here about the uh the website 674 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:44,400 or that wherever that's on I don't know if it's Facebook or social media of some 675 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:47,359 kind discuss that is there anything that that we missed you know I 676 00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:49,680 [clears throat] just want to make sure that we do this right but do it within 677 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,079 the law >> right 678 00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:56,160 » uh you know we don't do it within the law and a person takes us to court then 679 00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:01,200 we're lose >> right and and again to the police they 680 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:05,359 have been wonderful. I have nothing but wonderful things to say about them from 681 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,800 the night on national night out. They handled that situation with grace. And 682 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:14,640 let me tell you something, being a standby or watching them, I would have 683 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:17,920 lost my [ __ ] if I was one of them. The way they kept theirelves together, I 684 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:23,440 give them all the credit in the world for what they're doing. 685 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:27,520 » Okay. Thank you very much. Um, I appreciate all your comments tonight. 686 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:32,160 may have not have answered them exactly the way you want, but we're trying to 687 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:37,200 act within the law and we don't have any choice. So, um, just stay tuned, please, 688 00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:41,760 you know, >> and if something goes down, call the 689 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:46,319 police first. If you want to if you want to and then contact code if it's night 690 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:51,599 time, call me. If I'm home, you'll you'll see my face in a couple minutes. 691 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:55,839 Okay. So, 692 00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:00,960 all right. So, we're going to move on to other 693 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:05,520 Mr. Tinsley. Thanks, Mike Higgins. Um, no, no other 694 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:10,240 comments. Okay. 695 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:15,800 Mr. Bur, >> no comments. I just advise everybody to 696 00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,800 call 911. 697 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:23,280 » Never a mistake. Call 911. And I'd just like to say to everybody, 698 00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:28,319 we are very concerned about this. Uh we had a police committee meeting the other 699 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:31,520 day and believe me, the chief is really upset about this and so is the whole 700 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,920 board. I just want to think like he said, call 911. 701 00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:43,359 » Yeah, we all share your anger. We really do, but as um everyone said, we have to 702 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,520 stay within the law. Uh, I'll say this and probably I probably shouldn't say 703 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:50,240 this, but I've been a police commissioner for 7 8 years now. And u I 704 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:54,000 think one of the failings of our our whole system is the bad guys have all 705 00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:58,319 the rights. They really do. It's I've heard from my residents, well, what 706 00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:02,400 about my quality of life? My peaceful I just want to, you know, live peacefully. 707 00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:07,200 Bad guys don't care. And the courts care what they say, not what you say. So I I 708 00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:11,680 that hurts that hurts to say that, but it's just it's the truth. Uh on happier 709 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:15,040 news, uh wish everyone a great rest of your summer, uh great Labor Day, and 710 00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:17,760 please try to join us at our Thursday afternoon, Thursday evening concerts. I 711 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:20,880 think we have one or two left. All right, take care. 712 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,839 » Commissioner Mc Commissioner Bowden, please. 713 00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:28,880 » Well, you probably don't want me to say anything, but most of you out there know 714 00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:35,040 who I am. You know, when I say something, I do something. You know this 715 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:40,960 board and this administration, and I'm telling you the gospel, honest truth. 716 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:45,760 They're doing everything with the wonderful cooperation of our police 717 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:50,640 department. You know I don't lie. You know I get things done and I've been 718 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:58,880 doing it for years in this town. Trust me, they're doing everything they can. 719 00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:04,960 The police are on top of it. Believe me. 911. And if not, call me. I'll call 911. 720 00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:09,680 I have no problem. I've offered to go sit over there, but I've been asked not 721 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:14,000 to. But let me just say this to you. Trust the police department. They're on 722 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:18,240 it. Seriously. >> Thanks, 723 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:21,280 » Commissioner McIn. >> Yeah, just one correction for 724 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,800 Commissioner Bowden. Don't call her. We don't need her going out with her Batman 725 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,599 costume or Spider-Man. She might have just saw Spider-Man the other week. I 726 00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:31,760 think everybody in America did. So, don't do anything crazy, Nancy. No, but 727 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:34,559 in all seriousness, I you know, I think folks here, you can I see the 728 00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,640 frustration anytime you're going to take time out of your day, right? we're 729 00:55:35,953 --> 00:55:41,520 [clears throat] in the middle of an afternoon to to come do this. Um, you 730 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:45,920 know, it it it reaches a boiling point, you know what I mean? And so, um, I 731 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:49,440 think everybody up here has family, has kids at different ages, you know, their 732 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:52,880 kids are as young as yours right now. They were at one point, um, and don't 733 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,720 want that thing. And even if you don't have kids, you don't want you don't want 734 00:55:54,319 --> 00:56:01,440 that in your neighborhood. So, um, certainly appreciate, you know, the 735 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:05,440 comments and, you know, I'm I'm hopeful, uh, we have a great police department 736 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:09,200 and, uh, some great folks that'll take a look at this and I'm hopeful that they 737 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:14,240 can solve it. It's, uh, something that's kind of new and unique because of, you 738 00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:17,680 know, the internet, social media, right, with people being able to do this. I saw 739 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:22,240 something recently, I guess it was in, I think it was in New Town Square, a 740 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:25,440 similar issue. So, um, you know, maybe there'll be some tools that can be 741 00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:29,280 thought of that can, you know, help not just Aston, but, um, you know, other 742 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:33,520 municipalities make sure this gets nipped in the bud and that it doesn't 743 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:36,960 pop up somewhere else, right? Um, in the township or somewhere else. So, that 744 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:42,079 said, that one other thing I just have to say, um, you know, because it's a 745 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:47,200 cool moment and embarrass him a little, but a proud Aston boy, Joe Vuso, who's 746 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:53,520 our engineer, wrote a book, Who Killed the American Dream? Um, so Joe, for 747 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:58,720 those that don't know him, Joe's been um the township engineer probably as long 748 00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:03,520 as as I've been alive or or longer. Um, you know, he is a a guy that grew up in 749 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:09,359 Aston, did really well for himself, educated masters at Villanova, and um 750 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:12,799 has more knowledge and experience than anybody I've I've probably ever come 751 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:18,079 across in terms of municipal engineering. And so he took some time to 752 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,599 kind of put some together talking about, you know, what it is to be in the 753 00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:25,280 suburbs. And, you know, everybody here, sure, a lot of you are either, you know, 754 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:29,040 own your homes or renting and hoping to own, but that's kind of what the book's 755 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,799 about. Like, hey, what do we how do we how do we make this work, right? Whether 756 00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:38,480 it's for us, we own, but you know, our children or others. So, um, I'm only a 757 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:42,319 little bit through it so far, but, uh, um, you know, Joe, and I don't mean this 758 00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:46,240 just cuz he's an engineer, cuz usually the engineering science guys aren't the 759 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:50,960 best writers. I mean, just in general, you know, it's it's very well written. 760 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:54,480 So, um, I just wanted to to mention that, you know, for all the all the 761 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,640 years of service Joe's put in township and everywhere else, really proud and 762 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,880 very cool to to see him uh, write and publish this book. 763 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:06,480 » Thanks, Joe. >> Thank you, Joe. 764 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:10,319 Wait, I had to pay for mine. >> Miss Pippen, have anything you'd like to 765 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:14,400 add? Mr. >> Yeah, I just have to remind people that 766 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,960 uh Maryanne Bowen could not be here tonight this afternoon, but uh she 767 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:23,280 wanted me to mention that community day is Saturday, October 3rd, and that she 768 00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:28,480 needs volunteers. If anybody's interested, reach out to her. Also want 769 00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:34,079 to mention that the wall that heals is coming to Aston Township. Um, it arrives 770 00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:38,799 on October the 6th. It's going to be a uh open from October the 8th through 771 00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:43,200 October 11th, which is Thursday, October 8th through Sunday, October 11th. We 772 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,720 have plenty of activities. There's information on our website if anybody 773 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:51,440 wants to go on to the website. There's volunteer opportunities. It's going to 774 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:56,160 be a very solemn occasion, but it's going to be a real celebration for those 775 00:58:53,839 --> 00:59:01,280 who uh gave their life for our country. So, uh, in case you don't know what the 776 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:06,240 wall that heals is, it's the Vietnam War wall that heals, it's a replica of the 777 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:11,359 one that's in Washington DC. And we are one of 31 cities, towns in the United 778 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:15,839 States that are honored to have that wall here in October. So, just want to 779 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,200 mention both of those. Go to our website. There's more information on the 780 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:23,200 website. There's forms out there. There's also a tenative schedule of 781 00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:29,680 activities for those days. So, thank you everyone. 782 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:36,079 Mr. Excuso, professional engineer. >> Thank you. Uh, Michael Solicitor. 783 00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:42,480 Thank you. Um, I echo what everybody else said up here. Um, this is not a 784 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:46,640 joke. Uh, we do care about it. It's it's just getting there and that's the 785 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:50,319 difficult part. So, um, I will be staying in here. They are going back to 786 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,920 another meeting. I think I'll be out here if anybody would like to bend my 787 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,240 ear. Did we do 788 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:11,440 » So with that I asked motion for adjournment. 789 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,440 Thank you. Thank you everybody.