1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Welcome everybody. All right, can you hear me okay? All right, there we go. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:16,600 All right, I'll bring this session to order of the Atascadero Planning 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Commission this August 18th, 6:00 p.m. Uh we'll start with the flag salute. Uh 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,640 would you go ahead and do the fleet us in that? 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,640 » Please rise. 6 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,040 » Uh are we waiting for one commissioner? 7 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,040 » We can continue with business and we'll note the time that she arrives. 8 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,120 » Okay, just wanted to make sure we didn't want to hold anything up. 9 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,040 All right, can I get a roll call, please? 10 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,960 » Chairperson Anderson. >> Here. 11 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:08,720 » Vice Chairperson Manazzio. 12 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,960 » Present. >> Commissioner Farrell. 13 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,560 » Present. >> Commissioner Heath is absent. 14 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:16,440 Commissioner Jones. >> Present. 15 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:18,280 » Commissioner Keen is not here yet. Commissioner O'Malley. 16 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,120 » Here. >> Thank 17 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Uh Five present, one absent, one late. 18 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,880 » All right. Uh 19 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:34,720 All right, thank you, Ms. Horn. Um okay. All right, I just want to welcome 20 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:38,600 everybody here and online. Do we have anybody online that is listening in? Can 21 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,160 we see that? If you are, you got two people 22 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:45,080 » We no longer allow online participation, but we do have our consultants online 23 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,600 for the second item. >> She gave me a either a peace sign or 24 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,480 there are two people are online. Welcome. Thank you for tuning in. 25 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:58,120 Uh hopefully I'll get uh 26 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,120 more followers as we go. 27 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:04,720 All right, Okay, well, we're going to go ahead and move on to our public comment. 28 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Um this is the portion of the meeting where 29 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,160 um the public has 30 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:15,520 the ability to comment on any of the matters that are under the 31 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:21,840 commission's purview that is not on the agenda right now. So, if we have anybody 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:25,040 who would like to comment now. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close 33 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,400 public comment. And oh, thank you. 34 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,840 All right. And now we'll go ahead and open 35 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,480 um comment public comment for the consent 36 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:35,480 calendar. 37 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Okay, do we have anybody who would like to comment on the consent calendar? 38 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:47,681 Nope. All right, seeing none, I'll go ahead and close public comment on the 39 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:50,240 consent calendar. >> [clears throat] 40 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,560 » And any of the commission members would like to comment on the consent calendar 41 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:58,280 or pulling item from the consent calendar, there's one item. 42 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,239 The minutes, no, no. No corrections to minutes, okay. 43 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,519 » I'll be Mr. Chairman, I'll be recusing myself for the minutes since I was not 44 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:08,200 present at that meeting. >> Oh, thank you. Okay, perfect. 45 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:14,760 All right. Can I get a motion to accept the uh 46 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,920 approve the consent calendar? >> I motion to approve the consent 47 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,519 calendar. >> I'll second. 48 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:26,400 » Okay, motion by Commissioner Farrell, seconded by Vice Chair Panaccio. Can I 49 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,440 get a roll call, please? >> Commissioner Farrell? 50 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,720 » Yes. >> Vice Chairperson Panaccio? 51 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:34,320 » Yes. >> Chairperson Anderson? 52 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:37,400 » Yes. >> Commissioner O'Malley? 53 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,800 » Yes. >> That passes 4 54 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:45,840 0. >> Okay, perfect. 55 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Moving right along. 56 00:03:45,977 --> 00:03:51,440 » [clears throat] >> We don't have any 57 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:55,000 uh any old business, no old business, so that's good. And community development 58 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:59,360 staff reports were we're going to go right on to 59 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,880 our first agenda item. So, 60 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:09,760 I guess um we've got uh Mr. Gomez, our associate uh 61 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:14,840 planner here, who's going to give us a as our predecessor would say, a dazzling 62 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,840 presentation. 63 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,680 » Yes, good afternoon, planning commissioner. I'm ready to dazzle. 64 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:22,000 » Thank you. >> I know you guys had a long night ahead 65 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:25,120 of you, hopefully, so um or we're not. But I want to make this as quick as 66 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,480 possible. So, um project in front of me today is pretty 67 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:36,200 straightforward one, hopefully. Uh this is the Santa Inez Small Lot Subdivision. 68 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:41,600 It's project number SP DV 26-0030. Um and it's located at 6375 Santa Inez 69 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Avenue. There's a three other addresses up to 63 6385 Santa Inez Avenue 70 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:52,040 associated with those lots. So, we'll go ahead and jump uh right 71 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:56,600 into it. Um as I mentioned, uh the project is located at 6375 and 6385 72 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,600 Santa Inez Avenue. Um it is near the intersection of Santa 73 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Inez and Atascadero uh Avenue. 74 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:11,400 It has a land use designation of high-density residential and a zoning uh 75 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:15,400 designation of residential multi-family with a 76 00:05:12,919 --> 00:05:20,520 uh 24 unit per acre uh density. 77 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:25,520 Um it is two existing lots as they stand right now. Each of those lots have two 78 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:31,000 detached single-family homes, and together those two lots total uh 0.56 79 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,000 acres. 80 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Um so, the applicant is requesting a vesting tentative parcel map 81 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:45,880 uh AT 26-0015 and a master plan development. Um and 82 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:50,040 so, they uh essentially are hoping to subdivide 83 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:56,520 those two lots uh into a total of four lots. And the goal is to have one house 84 00:05:53,360 --> 00:06:00,000 on each of those resulting four lots. So on your screen right now it's kind of 85 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,760 a depiction of their tentative map which I 86 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:07,400 marked up so you can see the personal lines a little bit easier 87 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:14,560 with lot one being on the bottom left, lot two top left, lot three top right, 88 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,560 and lot four bottom right. 89 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:24,760 So you will notice that those lots range from about 3,200 90 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:27,640 square feet to about 6,800 square feet. We'll talk a little bit more about 91 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,120 minimum lot sizes here in the next section. 92 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:41,160 So as I mentioned earlier the lots are zoned residential multi-family with a 24 93 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:48,200 unit per acre density for that zone. The minimum parcel size is typically 0.5 94 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:54,320 or half an acre net. However, our multi-family standards and 95 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:59,240 cottage cluster standards do allow small lot subdivisions of multi-family 96 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:04,520 properties. And provide requirements for them to 97 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:09,560 meet our cottage cluster standards. This project is unique in that 98 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:13,560 all the units are already existing. So basically it required us to go back, 99 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,520 review for what standards were still at play, 100 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:20,200 and see you know what we can bring the site into compliance with if we needed 101 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:24,240 to. And for those things that would be kind 102 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,960 of onerous for an already developed couple of lots, we 103 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,600 work with the applicant to request some as exceptions. 104 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:35,800 In this case the site as developed is kind of a pretty good 105 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:40,520 example of what we would expect a cottage cluster to look like even under 106 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:44,480 our new code standards. And so there are two exceptions that 107 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,160 they're really requesting here. Um, one is a unit footprint size. So, 108 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:54,200 cottage clusters are really supposed to have an 800 square foot footprint. All 109 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,840 these units are already existing, and so they existed before that standard was in 110 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:02,640 play. Um, we're obviously not going to require the applicant reduce the size of 111 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:07,840 those structures. So, the exception is included in the in the request for that 112 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:12,640 CUP um, for a master plan development. Um, similarly, there's a requirement 113 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:17,880 that um, for new units they have a a designated pedestrian path. Um, and so 114 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:22,240 in this case the driveway is already existing. Sorry, pedestrian path to the 115 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:24,520 right-of-way, to any common areas. Um, in this case the uh 116 00:08:24,355 --> 00:08:27,840 » [clears throat] >> the driveway to the right-of-way is 117 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,440 already existing. And so, 118 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,640 uh there were some uh logistical issues with putting in a new pedestrian path 119 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,800 there without requiring, you know, a level of improvement that would 120 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:41,560 potentially uh subject them to some level of grade differentiation to 121 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:45,760 building code and then still meet uh fire access requirements. Um, so that 122 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,240 was a good one to also uh request an exemption for. 123 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Um, there are a couple of items that we're asking for compliance with and 124 00:08:50,839 --> 00:08:56,720 they're being conditioned uh as part of their condition of of 125 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:59,640 approvals. Um, first and foremost, uh you know, 126 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:04,640 the fencing as is shown on that image there um 127 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:08,839 is way above uh our front yard setback uh sorry, front yard fencing standards. 128 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:13,200 Um, it's basically a 6-ft tall fence. It actually just a few years ago per Google 129 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Street View used to be compliant with our code and and those got installed by 130 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,880 the previous owner. So, um we are conditioning that fencing to be uh cut 131 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:25,160 down to meet our current code requirements. 132 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,600 Um, and the other one is parking because uh 133 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:32,800 uh each parking or the parking lot has a a few of the spaces that are needed for 134 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:37,000 parking on the site. Um, they aren't particularly marked. They also need a 135 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:43,320 guest space. Um, so we're asking that those uh this driveway be uh striped and 136 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,880 signed accordingly um to make sure that those spaces are clearly designated for 137 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:51,000 the units that they're for um and that our guest park is uh clearly designated 138 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:56,000 as well. Um, and then again here just the 139 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:59,840 environmental review wasn't required for this. It is uh subject to a class 15 140 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:04,480 exemption under the California Environmental Quality Act, which exempts 141 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:09,760 uh minor subdivisions for these kind of small urban lots with uh no major 142 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,760 slopes. 143 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Um, so there was a small correction that I had to make to the conditions of 144 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:21,800 approval, which you'll see on your screen um and largely it has to do with 145 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:25,480 we have a standard condition for uh all utilities being underground. And 146 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:29,320 again, that one just I apologize flew over my head because everything's 147 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,440 already built on this one. It's not uh just undeveloped property. So, um 148 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,960 my recommendation here is that the Planning Commission adopt draft BC 149 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:43,200 resolution approving uh this master plan development and vesting tentative parcel 150 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:48,760 map AT 2600111, 11. Uh 151 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:51,960 it's project number SPV 260030 based on findings and subject to 152 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:56,839 conditions of approval uh with minor revisions to the conditions of approval 153 00:10:53,600 --> 00:11:00,440 to remove condition number 20 about uh undergrounding the utilities. 154 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:04,839 Nope. And with that, I will open it to uh 155 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,440 questions and discussion. >> All right, fantastic. Well, before we do 156 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:13,120 um questions, I'd I'd like to back up a little and do ex 157 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:16,400 parte for this project, if that's okay. Can I get an ex parte for Commissioner 158 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Jones? >> No communications with any parties. 159 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,960 » Okay. And Commissioner Keen? 160 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,160 » No ex parte. >> Commissioner Farrell? 161 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,240 » No communications. >> Vice Chair Penucci? 162 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:32,480 » No ex parte. >> Uh Commissioner O'Malley? 163 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,160 » No ex parte. >> No ex parte uh 164 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:41,720 the chair has no ex parte, so um we can [clears throat] go ahead and 165 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:46,440 uh discuss with questions would uh be 166 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,840 have any particular questions of uh Mr. Goldman at the time at this time? 167 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,160 » I have no questions. I thought the staff report was thorough and takes into 168 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,280 account the existing conditions, so I thought it was nice work and 169 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,720 um straw poll, I'd be willing to make the motion to move ahead after any other 170 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,640 discussion. >> Okay. 171 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,480 » I could I just have a question. More of a curiosity question. Are these going to 172 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,920 be single level or two levels? 173 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Has that been >> What is that? 174 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,680 » The existing homes are all one story. >> Correct. 175 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,280 » Okay. >> [clears throat] 176 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:22,280 » And there's no external uh enforcement for that uh 177 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:27,520 guest uh parking. It'll all be amongst the 178 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:31,560 uh tenants or >> We did condition a easement, so they're 179 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:36,120 showing a driveway easement uh on their map right now. Um and we're also going 180 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,400 to condition that agreement that goes along with that easement that tells us 181 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,200 who maintains what and how who's responsible. We'll also include 182 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,760 provisions for uh the guest parking spot. 183 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:47,640 » Okay. I just didn't want us to be responsible 184 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:52,360 for that. >> I have a question. I'm I'm just curious. 185 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,960 So the zoning for the lot is RMF 24, correct? 186 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,839 » That is correct. >> And is that Is it going to be RMF 24 187 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:03,880 after um the general plan approval as well? 188 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:11,400 » I believe so. >> So if the vision for this area is to be 189 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:15,360 higher density, wouldn't a larger lot kind of align with that vision more so 190 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,000 than breaking it down into a smaller cluster? 191 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:27,560 » Yes, except that this lot is already developed as it stands, so 192 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:32,480 it is God, it's also Thank you, Kelly. It's also technically two lots. Um 193 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:36,600 so, they could theoretically sell a lot individually and continue with those two 194 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:41,400 properties. Um they have the infrastructure there for it to be to act 195 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:46,080 as a small lot subdivision, and they still are um going to be four lots zoned 196 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,080 RMF 24. Uh if the property owner were to come 197 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:54,160 back and want to utilize that density, they'd likely have to figure out the 198 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:58,360 driveway extents and how to orient the houses in those units and that are small 199 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:02,720 enough to accommodate uh additional units there. Um but, this is a good 200 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:06,800 example of kind of those postage stamp subdivisions that 201 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:09,560 allow a a variety of housing and not just really dense apartment buildings in 202 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,600 our community. >> Great. Thank you. 203 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,200 » Okay. All righty. Well, um let's let's go 204 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,240 ahead and invite the applicant up to speak if if he's here. 205 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Is the applicant here? If you'd like to speak, it's not 206 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 necessary. 207 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:34,200 » Yeah, Max Appis, uh local resident developer, uh representing the owners of 208 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,560 the property. Um just kind of speaking to that last 209 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,920 question. Um 210 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:46,240 by doing this, we give four different lots four different owners. Um those 211 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:51,320 four individual owners can take better advantage of state um 212 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:57,400 law, so they can do multi-family kind of like junior ADUs, ADUs on all these 213 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:01,880 lots, hopefully. Who knows, but um as like an investor, you can't do that. So, 214 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:06,720 it should help densify. Um but, hope you vote for it. Thanks. 215 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:11,880 » Well, thank you. Okay. Are there any members of the 216 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:16,000 public wishing to speak on this item? No? Okay, seeing none, we're going to go 217 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:20,080 ahead and close public comment. Uh are there any more discussion items that 218 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:25,560 the commissioners would like to field any other questions? Okay. 219 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Um and Commissioner Jones, do wanted to make that motion? 220 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,760 » Yeah, sure. I'll move the staff recommendation as modified with 221 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:36,600 condition 20 with the strike through on the underground utilities. 222 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:39,800 » Okay. Do I get a second? >> I'll second. 223 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,400 » All right. We have a motion from Commissioner Jones and a second from 224 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,280 Vice Chair Panuccio. Um 225 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,480 Can I get a roll call? >> Commissioner Jones. 226 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,720 » Aye. >> Vice Chairperson Panuccio. 227 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Chairperson Anderson. >> Yes. 228 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,120 » Commissioner Farrell. >> Yes. 229 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,880 » Commissioner Keen. >> Yes. 230 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,040 » Commissioner O'Malley. >> Yes. 231 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,360 » Motion passes 6-0. >> All right. Congratulations. Good luck 232 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,680 with your project. All right. 233 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:14,400 All right. Well, we're going to go ahead and move on to number two on our 234 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:20,000 agenda item. Now, um this is going to get a little 235 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,960 um jittery, so bear with us. We're going to We're going to try to do this as 236 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,040 smoothly as possible. Uh so, what I was thinking is that we 237 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,880 would do ex parte for the portion that is not 238 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,160 recused because we're going to have some recusals here. So, I'll just run through 239 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:41,720 ex parte. This is just on the portion that you're not recusing for. Okay? 240 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:44,320 All right. Ex parte Commissioner Jones. >> None. 241 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,680 » Commissioner Keen. >> I have none. 242 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,200 » Commissioner Farrell. >> None. 243 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,040 » None. Commissioner Vice Chair Panuccio. 244 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,951 Panuccio, sorry. >> No ex parte. 245 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,960 » No ex parte. >> [laughter] 246 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,800 » Commissioner O'Malley. >> No ex parte. 247 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:02,320 » I need water. And the chair has no ex parte. 248 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:06,880 All right. Um we're going to go ahead and ask uh 249 00:17:04,439 --> 00:17:11,760 um Ms. Gleason to go ahead and dazzle us with her presentation on what I know 250 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 she's worked very hard on. 251 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:17,240 » Good evening. Thank you all for joining us today. 252 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Um we are able to go through the entire presentation uh before recusal and then 253 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:31,440 we can uh do our recusal after that. So, this is the finale of the 2045 uh 254 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:35,200 general plan and its final EIR. Um, so going over process tonight, we will do 255 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:39,920 the staff's presentation. Um, the commission can ask clarifying questions 256 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:44,000 after staff's presentation um that are not necessarily related to specific 257 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,840 areas of recusal. Um, we will open it for public comment. 258 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:53,000 People might show up. Um, and then we will do our recusal 259 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:58,440 after the public comment period and that will allow us to vote on different 260 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:03,240 segments of the general plan without um overstepping with conflicts of interest. 261 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:07,920 So, it's been broken into uh three segments for uh your vote on 262 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,200 recommendation this evening. Um, so tonight's presentation, we're 263 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:15,600 going to go over a little bit of the draft 2045 general plan. Some of this 264 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:19,840 you've seen before, um, but it's a large document. It's a great document. We only 265 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:23,080 do it once every 20 25 years. Um, so it's exciting that we're at the finish 266 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:27,480 line. Um, we'll talk a little bit about the final EIR that was prepared with any 267 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:31,160 response to comments that we received. Um, and then the planning commission 268 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:35,360 will take action. So, a little bit about where we are. We 269 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:40,520 made it to the end. Um, started this process in 2021 and here we are in 2026 270 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:45,200 and we have made it. Um, so this process was a five-phase process. Every single 271 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:50,120 phase of the process had uh commission input, council input, community input um 272 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,040 to get to where we are today, which is the very very almost very end. 273 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:03,000 So, this is kind of our last phase of the project. We did post our draft 2045 274 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:07,520 general plan for the public and anybody to comment um on anything that they saw 275 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:12,160 that that might need comment or clarification. Um, after that we did do 276 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,600 another community engagement series where we went through some of the draft 277 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:21,160 general plan policies and requested some input and went over the outline of of 278 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,800 what that framework looked like. During that time we were preparing a 279 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:29,800 draft environmental impact report and fiscal analysis for 280 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:34,600 review by the public and decision-makers. We did post the draft 281 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:39,520 environmental impact report for its required 45-day 282 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:43,840 public comment period in April of 2026 and we brought the fiscal analysis to 283 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,640 council in May. Since then the public comment period is 284 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:51,160 closed so we've been working on revisions to the draft general plan and 285 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,560 preparing the final environmental impact report. 286 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:58,280 Today we are at the first of our public hearings for adoption. We'll be going to 287 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:04,320 council next and then we will have our final 2045 general plan in place. 288 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,080 So just a little bit of background on some of our public participation 289 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:11,560 process. This was a 290 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:15,680 five-year process. We had over 17 public outreach events and meetings to garner 291 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:19,480 input from the community. We did our consultant set us up with 292 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:25,720 this fabulous online interactive survey. We had almost 700 people participate 293 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:29,400 and kind of take pictures of ideas and place types as we call them and stick 294 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:33,520 them all over the city so that we could understand what people's vision was both 295 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,480 from a land use perspective and a built environment perspective. 296 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,640 And we also did a semester-long project with the Atascadero High School 297 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:44,000 students. We were trying to engage the youth and 298 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,120 get them to provide some input. Really all they wanted was chicken 299 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,000 restaurant and Chick-fil-A is coming so I think we have checked that one off the 300 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:55,240 list. What we did as we moved forward with 301 00:20:53,080 --> 00:21:00,000 sort of these focus areas of change and we really looked at areas that had 302 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,720 services that had um 303 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,320 the ability to sort of increase additional density and maybe there are 304 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:11,280 commercial areas where we're looking at how we really hone 305 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:16,200 uh business enterprise and what kind of um businesses and services would best 306 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:19,680 serve Atascadero residents and visitors um as well as provide us with a lot of 307 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,400 fiscal sustainability and health over the years. 308 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,720 So, we kind of broke the city up into these focus areas and these are the 309 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,760 areas where the most change is happening throughout the city. Obviously, the west 310 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:33,840 side not changing very much, not a lot of access to utilities out there. 311 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,480 So, all of this was based on our overarching general plan vision 312 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:44,240 statement that the council came up with early in the process um through our 313 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,680 public meetings. Um and that is that Atascadero provides opportunities for 314 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,560 all residents and business owners to thrive. And our community-focused 315 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,800 culture pursues investments and land use strategies that create a diversity of 316 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,800 housing types, support local businesses, improve all mobility modes, and respect 317 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:04,400 our natural environment. Collective community actions improve conditions for 318 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:10,080 current and future generations. So, this is the overarching vision statement that 319 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:14,280 the document and policies were based on. So, we did draft um a general plan with 320 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:18,640 that in mind, included our land use diagram, and numbers of goals and 321 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:22,320 policies uh to achieve that vision statement. 322 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:26,160 This was our resulting land use plan where we changed a number of place types 323 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,720 from what our current land use designations are today um and kind of 324 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:35,680 really honed that vision uh into something that was graphically 325 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,680 represented with our map. 326 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:41,480 In terms of our key policy framework, we started with sort of this idea of really 327 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:45,520 big moves and what we needed to see and do um into the future. 328 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,360 Um that included supporting a mix of housing types throughout the city um for 329 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:53,640 all types of residents that want to come live here, um attracting new industries 330 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:58,000 and higher wage jobs to really again provide that foundation for fis- fiscal 331 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,040 sustainability and health throughout um the future. 332 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Um we looked at improving mobility, access, and safety throughout our roads 333 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:11,800 um and our circulation system. We addressed public infrastructure needs 334 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,800 and ensured fiscal sustainability. 335 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,880 A typo on what? Okay, well, we're past it now. 336 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,040 Okay. Thank you. 337 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,600 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 338 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:36,836 We'll fix it. You know, you're just staring at me. 339 00:23:34,816 --> 00:23:36,836 » [laughter] 340 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,320 » Um so, our general plan, there's a number of elements that are required as 341 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,960 part of a general plan, but you can choose to combine those into whatever 342 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:54,680 structure of chapters you wish to do. So, we combined those essential elements 343 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:59,640 into seven chapters, six of which are included in this 2045 general plan. Our 344 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,480 housing element, as a side note, is adopted on a totally different schedule, 345 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,440 so that gets incorporated, but is not part of what we're looking at this 346 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:10,520 evening. So, our first chapter was land use and 347 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:14,200 community form. So, this chapter has a lot of the policies that talk about 348 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,360 preserving neighborhood character and the type of character that we envision 349 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:22,240 our city having into the future when we explore opportunities for 350 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:27,080 growth. So, we have a number of goals and policies that address development 351 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:31,000 citywide including sort of unique areas within the city and what we envision for 352 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:35,560 some of our new job centers and light industrial areas of the city. 353 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:39,680 Again, our focus is maintaining our rural character, especially on the west 354 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:44,640 side and some of our larger lot areas, supporting a vibrant city center, and 355 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:50,560 providing places for a variety of uses to support us with our economic base. 356 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,800 We chose to add a economic development chapter. This was a big focus of the 357 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,480 city and city council and what we heard from the community. This is not a 358 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,360 required element, um, but it does bring together sort of the the vision and 359 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:06,280 focus on a certain level of economic development that, um, our town is very 360 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,680 interested in. Um, so we have policies that look at diversifying the economic 361 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:13,680 base and expanding employment opportunities throughout the city, um, 362 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,040 and that's done through, um, attracting new businesses, but also supporting 363 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:21,800 existing businesses to thrive and grow in the city as well. Um, helps us sup- 364 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:26,720 support emerging business trends that we might be able to capitalize on um, for 365 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,880 some economic growth, um, ensuring for a wide range of goods and services for 366 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,440 both residents and visitors to the area, and again, that focus on fiscal health, 367 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:38,320 which is a theme throughout most of our chapters. 368 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,280 Our mobility chapter is kind of what a lot of people would think of as our 369 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:47,000 circulation chapter. Um, so here we kind of have policies that balance more 370 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:51,240 multimodal, um, developments and and travel throughout the city with an 371 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:55,360 emphasis on, um, bike and pedestrian enhancements throughout the city. Um, 372 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,440 also looking to support inter-change improvements. So we don't have a lot of 373 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,520 control over Caltrans, but always looking for ways that we can support, 374 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:07,280 um, sort of cross traffic from east to west in the city. 375 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:11,480 Our recreation, open space, and natural resources element talks a lot about 376 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,880 resource preservation, providing adequate park space and recreation 377 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,400 resources for people within the community. Um, we want to ensure 378 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,800 adequate park facilities throughout the city so that, um, kids have places to 379 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,080 play, and we also have a lot of natural environments that we can enjoy. Um, and 380 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:31,400 this chapter does recognize our natural areas as valuable sort of park and open 381 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,400 space resources as well. 382 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:37,040 And our public services and infrastructure chapter, this one's 383 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:42,200 always a big one for us, um, because we do have a lot of infrastructure in the 384 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:47,440 city, um, a lot of miles of roads, um, more limited, uh, waste water system, 385 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:52,800 um, and so this chapter really focuses on, um, ensuring that we respond to 386 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:59,760 long-term growth with our, um, growth plan for the 2045 vision and ensuring 387 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,760 adequate services and capacity. 388 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:05,640 And lastly, we have our safety and emergency preparedness chapter. 389 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,920 So, this focuses a little bit more on staffing and making sure that we have 390 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,080 adequate support for our emergency responders. 391 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:17,600 It addresses a lot of risks that the city sees, wildfire risks, 392 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:21,240 flood risks, geologic hazards. It also addresses noise 393 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,160 and so it kind of overlaps with circulation and mobility and making sure 394 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,840 that we have adequate connections for evacuations and access. 395 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,720 And so, while we worked on the general plan, it was being reviewed 396 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,480 through the sequa process where we prepared our environmental impact 397 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,920 report. So, sequa does require that any 398 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:45,720 discretionary access go any discretionary action go through a 399 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:49,160 process of sequa analysis. For general plans, it usually ends up in an EIR 400 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,400 because there's always regional impacts that we don't have a whole lot of 401 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,320 control over and we can't move our project to a 402 00:27:54,640 --> 00:28:00,120 different city. So, there are some factors that we are just stuck with. 403 00:27:59,439 --> 00:28:04,200 » [clears throat] >> We it's basically a public disclosure 404 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:07,400 document, so we disclose those impacts to the public as part of this 405 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:10,960 process. So, we did circulate the EIR for 45 406 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,720 days. We dropped that on April 20th, 2026 and 407 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:20,080 it went through June 4th. And it outlined three main classes of 408 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:24,240 impacts as well as all the analysis that went behind it. So, class one are those 409 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:29,000 significant and unavoidable impacts that no matter kind of what you do, there are 410 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:33,480 not a lot of options to mitigate those. We do have some significant impacts, but 411 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:37,320 they were able to be mitigated and we'll go through those in the next 412 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,840 slides. And then less than significant impacts. Most of our analyses and 413 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:46,920 impacts were the class three level. Our document did a lot to sort of 414 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,680 self-mitigate a a of the impacts um, in our policies and our goals. 415 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:59,040 So, our first class two impact was to, uh, paleontological resources. 416 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Um, so, we did incorporate a mitigation measure to address this and require some 417 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:09,000 additional, uh, studies if somebody was, um, signi- doing significant building or 418 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:12,840 development within a sensitive area. We also had a class two impact 419 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,280 identified to public services to ensure that we have adequate wastewater 420 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,320 capacity. Um, as you guys know, we are working on upgrades to our wastewater 421 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,160 treatment plant, and we want to make sure we don't get ahead of ourselves 422 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,560 with development. So, we did add, um, a policy to the 423 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:30,960 general plan through a mitigation measure that re- requires us to look at 424 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:36,280 adequate service capacity. Um, air quality is, um, our class one 425 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:40,720 impact. Um, and so, this has a lot of, uh, regional implications. Um, air 426 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,480 doesn't stop at the city limits, people drive through the city, there's 427 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:49,160 projected regional growth, and so, this was an expected class one impact. We did 428 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,160 have some mitigation measures identified that would help to reduce some of those 429 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:57,680 impacts, but even with those mitigation measures identified, it remained 430 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,680 significant and unavoidable. 431 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Um, again, these thresholds are set by the state, so there's not much we can 432 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:08,600 do, you know, at a local level to modify those thresholds. Um, it's important to 433 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:12,920 point out that the 2045 general plan actually has less of an impact on air 434 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:16,120 quality than the current general plan. That is because we have numerous 435 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,840 policies for infill development and densifying around our core where there 436 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,920 might be future transit opportunities and people can, 437 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,400 um, walk or bike to where they are going. Um, and so, that was just kind of 438 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,600 important to note, even though there is an impact, it's less than if we 439 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,720 continued developing under our existing general plan. Um, we also had some 440 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,040 population estimates that might be a little bit high compared to what 441 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:41,120 regional trends are doing. This will allow us flexibility in the future so, 442 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:45,040 should we experience, uh, that any sort of growth in a certain area, we have 443 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:50,440 some flexibility to allow that without revisiting the general plan in the EIR. 444 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:56,200 We did receive three comments during the public review process period. Um 445 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,960 one from Caltrans, the Atascadero Mutual Water Company had some comments, and 446 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Fish and Wildlife had some comments. So, Fish and Wildlife and Caltrans um sort 447 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:10,480 of reiterated um some of the general premise of our of our uh general plan 448 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,640 and kind of clarified that they have some requirements when people go through 449 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,520 a construction process that need to be followed. Um we didn't need to make any 450 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,560 modifications to the general plan based on this because those were already 451 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:25,240 included in there um as as part of the normal development 452 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,880 process that we go through. Um Atascadero Mutual Water Company did have 453 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,800 some comments just clarifying some of their ownership and and maintenance and 454 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,760 their um kind of responsibilities um referring to one of their newer plans. 455 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,440 So, we did make some updates based on their comments. 456 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,320 So, as part of a um recommendation to adopt an EIR, there's a couple 457 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,080 accompanying legal documents that are super super fun to read through, and I 458 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:52,880 hope that you all did so in great detail. Um and so, part of your 459 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:57,880 recommendation um to adopt the final EIR for Council tonight will be also 460 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,880 adoption of these three uh accompanying documents. So, the first one is our 461 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,240 mitigation monitoring and reporting plan. 462 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,680 Um this one includes our five mitigation measures. Happy to say that all five of 463 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,400 those mitigation measures have already been incorporated into the general plan, 464 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,960 and so, we can check that off the box, but it is part of our um required 465 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,480 adoption. We will also be recommending that the 466 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:23,680 Council adopt a statement of overriding considerations. This is for those class 467 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:27,440 one impacts that cannot be mitigated, um and the state does allow us to balance 468 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:32,640 the economic, legal, social, technological, um all sorts of other 469 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,480 benefits um associated with um any action that we're going to take against 470 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,480 those unavoidable environmental impacts. Um and so we can 471 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,360 make statements and statements of overriding consideration that state what 472 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:50,600 those benefits are and that we are, you know, uh openly making um those 473 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:55,680 statements to allow for some significant unavoidable impacts 474 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:59,520 um with benefits that outweigh those. And then we'll be recommending that the 475 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:04,400 council adopt findings of fact. So these are findings associated with all of the 476 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:09,600 impacts addressed in the uh general plan and the final EIR. Um and again 477 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:16,040 highlighting that finding number three where benefits do outweigh um any sort 478 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,040 of negative environmental impact. 479 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,320 I did want to point out it's not necessarily part of a standard general 480 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,600 plan in terms of its analysis, but the council did ask for a fiscal impact 481 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:30,560 study to be brought forward um for the general plan to ensure that whatever we 482 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:35,440 were planning for the future uh was fiscally sustainable and would not put 483 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:41,080 the city um in a bad spot. So we did do a long-term fiscal analysis uh for the 484 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:44,600 proposed plan um and it did show that in that we would be fiscally positive. 485 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Again, it's a little bit of a crystal ball moment um but we did have some 486 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:52,040 consultants that were able to dial down. Um worked really hard with our finance 487 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:57,400 team to come to some of these assumptions and we do believe that uh 488 00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:01,480 build out of the 245 2045 general plan will be fiscally positive for the city. 489 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,800 So in terms of next steps, tonight we'll make a recommendation that will be 490 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:10,879 forwarded to city council. Um I did want to let you all know, 491 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:15,560 remind you that our comprehensive zoning code update is following almost right 492 00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:19,720 behind on the heels of this. So we are doing a policy at last policy 493 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:23,000 check-in at city council on September 8th. We'll be coming to planning 494 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,320 commission for a recommendation on October 6th. That's going to be a great 495 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,480 document. It's even longer than the general plan, so be prepared. Um we'll 496 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,639 go to city council for first reading October 27th and our plan is to do 497 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:39,120 second reading November 10th. So our new zoning will be in place by the end of 498 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,120 the year. 499 00:34:39,879 --> 00:34:47,800 So this is staff's recommendation. It is to adopt the draft resolution 500 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:51,480 recommending adoption of the 2045 General Plan certification of the final 501 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,800 EIR and adoption of all of the accompanying documents that come along 502 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,800 with that. 503 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:02,320 We will have a revised section related to recusals. I believe I handed that out 504 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:07,080 for you this evening and then there'll be another modification to that as we 505 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,960 move forward. And that does conclude our presentation. 506 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:16,560 We are available for clarifying questions and then we will get into 507 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:19,520 recusals, discussions, votes, and all of those fun things. 508 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,480 » All right, that was a fantastic presentation. 509 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,240 Thank you so much for that. I know you worked really hard on 510 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,720 that. All the staff has worked really hard on this for the last 5 years. I've 511 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,160 I've been here for much of it. And I know it's 512 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:39,360 it's great to see the city move along like this. 513 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:44,120 Um many years to come. Uh with great growth and economic 514 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,160 growth. So Uh right now I'm 515 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,560 going to ask a question. Are we going to do um 516 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,200 commissioner questions prior to public comment or are we going to hold that off 517 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,680 until after? >> We can do commissioner questions if they 518 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,840 are kind of clarifying or procedural questions at this point. 519 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:07,560 » Okay. So I would just advise that we limit our questions to things that do 520 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:10,920 not include any recused um topics. Okay? 521 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,600 Any Any questions? Any clarifying questions 522 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:20,240 or procedural questions? There we go. 523 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,560 Commissioner King. >> I just want to clarify. This might be a 524 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:31,040 dumb question. This is the environmental impact of the General Plan on our city 525 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,040 for the next until 2045? 526 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,160 » Yes. >> Okay. 527 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:38,880 » So, certain resources within the city and the impacts on those. 528 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,160 » Thank you. That was That was all. I just wanted to like make sure we 529 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,600 » No, that was That was a clarifying question. Perfect. 530 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,720 Any other questions? No? Okay. Well, we'll go ahead and open 531 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,560 Oh. Go ahead. Go ahead. 532 00:36:54,720 --> 00:37:02,160 » I was looking at the table 7-1 and there's a couple items on here that 533 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:06,920 I just had a question about. Uh GHG-1.1 534 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:11,800 says the updated City of Atascadero Climate Action Plan to identify ways to 535 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,080 reduce greenhouse gas emissions and limit climate change impacts on 536 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,640 residents to the extent possible. The Climate 537 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,640 Action Plan shall integrate the state's future 538 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:27,880 GHG reduction goals such as the state's goal of attaining carbon neutrality 539 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:34,000 by 2045. I was just curious if you could clarify 540 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,280 how we are integrating 541 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:42,280 the state's goal of attaining carbon neutrality by 2045. 542 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:45,640 Could you expand on that a little bit? >> Sure. I guess the shorter answer is we 543 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,960 don't know exactly how we're doing that yet because we don't have an updated 544 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:53,200 climate action plan. But I can say that around that also we work with our 545 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:57,360 regional partners. Air Pollution Control District comes out with a lot of best 546 00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:00,840 management practices for projects um to try and achieve that. So, a lot of the 547 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:06,200 details will come out during the update to a climate action plan. Um but we are 548 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,760 on track with our regional partners in the way that certain project details are 549 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,880 implemented um to make headway towards that goal. 550 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:19,280 » Great. Thank you. Cuz carbon neutrality is a pretty That's 551 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:25,560 a big jump. Um the another section on utilities and services systems 552 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:29,440 Um this is USS-3.1. It says action D require all proposed 553 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,440 new projects and new development requiring wastewater collection and 554 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:37,720 treatment service to be reviewed for adequate adequate 555 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,840 uh wastewater collection and treatment capacity prior to issuance of building 556 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,760 permits. How are we doing on treatment capacity? 557 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:50,080 » I can speak to that briefly. Thank you, Commissioner Panaccio. So right now, we 558 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:54,480 are nearing capacity at our wastewater our treatment plant. So the stopgap is 559 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,680 to put in this particular condition, this mitigation measure, to kind of wait 560 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,560 and see how development goes over the next few years. But if we don't get our 561 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,840 wastewater treatment plant project completed, which we do 562 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,800 anticipate we will, but if for some reason something happens and it's 563 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:14,600 significantly delayed, we will have to get into a spot where we need to monitor 564 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:17,600 growth in the city. And particularly, you know, 565 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,840 the addition of things that will hook to the wastewater treatment system. So, 566 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:26,400 this is sort of a stopgap kind of measure. We just hope we don't 567 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:31,480 have to get to that spot because we're working feverishly to 568 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,840 get the the project done. So. >> Sounds good. Thank you for the 569 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,480 clarifications. >> Good questions. Good questions. 570 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,880 Any other questions? All right. Okay. Well, we'll go ahead and move on to uh 571 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:48,880 public comment. If we have anybody Remember we don't have any members of 572 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:53,160 the public to comment, so um we'll give it 30 seconds. 10 seconds. 573 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:57,280 Okay. Seeing no one, we'll go ahead and close public comment. 574 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:02,600 And at this point, I believe uh our city 575 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,520 attorney will go ahead and take over in figuring out how we're going to handle 576 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,960 these recusals. >> Thank you, Chair Anderson and members of 577 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,400 the commission. Um what I'm going to be talking about now 578 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:18,800 may seem unnecessary or over paranoid uh in terms 579 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:23,000 of the segmenting that we have presented to you, but uh as the city's city 580 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,240 attorney and chief paranoia officer, I have to look as if the 581 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,640 FPPC is overseeing each of these decisions. So, we want to make sure that 582 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,480 each of you remains in the FPPC's good graces, and that's why we are going 583 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:40,480 through this process. It may seem somewhat unfair if you can't 584 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,520 participate, but the FPPC rules are that you are not supposed to participate in a 585 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:48,040 matter in which it affects your financial interests. And 586 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:51,880 for actually unusually, we have a little bit 587 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,880 of updated information. We have yet another 588 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,480 commissioner who has a conflict this evening. So, there's only one of you who 589 00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:02,560 does not have a conflict, Commissioner Keen. So, you will be the one that will 590 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:07,080 be the sole person when we start flipping coins. But, the reason is not 591 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:11,680 because conflicts are a bad thing. It's just the proximity of where your 592 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:16,840 properties are to some of the changes that we're doing. They're changes in 593 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,200 intensity of use that can be a material impact on your financial interest. So, 594 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,520 that's why we're doing it this way. So, basically what we're going to do is 595 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:27,600 we're going to segment into A and B. We're going to flip a coin to determine 596 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:32,560 which we hear first, and we'll determine how we bring back 597 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:36,480 commission members based on whether it's A or B. So, if we do 598 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:42,640 segment A, there are are it looks like four of you 599 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,720 that have conflicts on there. So, four of you 600 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:49,200 would have to participate in this process. Because Chair Anderson has 601 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,480 conflicts in both, we'll probably exclude him 602 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:56,760 from that process. The other reason that we're doing it 603 00:41:53,920 --> 00:42:00,280 this way is your seventh member, Commissioner Heath, has a personal 604 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:05,840 matter that prevents attendance at this meeting. 605 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:09,480 It's not simple absence for personal for convenience. There's a serious issue, 606 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:14,240 and I'm not going to get into it any more than that. But, under the FPPC's 607 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:19,040 opinion letters, that is a sufficient basis not to have 608 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:23,640 to continue this to the next meeting where that commissioner is present. So, 609 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:28,640 that's a lot of information. I wish I could say I'm as smart as the 610 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:32,760 person who prepared most of this, but Taylor Folland who is currently on a 611 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:37,640 plane somewhere probably over Greenland at this point, has done the lion's share 612 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,960 of this work. I'm grateful for her having done this. She has done a 613 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,440 fantastic job not only on the segmenting, but the underlying work with 614 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,720 the general plan and zoning. So, I wanted to give her a shout out when I 615 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:53,840 have that opportunity. So, at this point, 616 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:57,880 it appears that we have some conflicts of the five of you. 617 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:02,120 I can summarize them if you would like. It would probably go a little bit 618 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:06,840 faster. The conflicts are in the two zones that we'll be discussing and I 619 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,680 believe it's the Let me get these right here. 620 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:15,120 There is the low density multi-family and medium 621 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120 density. 622 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,000 » I believe it's medium density and mixed use. 623 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:23,560 » And mixed use, that's correct. And some of the commissioner members have 624 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:28,120 properties within 500 ft of potential changes in those zones. So, that is the 625 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:32,520 general nature of the conflicts for each of the five commissioners who have those 626 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,720 conflicts. So, the recommendation would be to go ahead and have those 627 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,920 commissioners step away from the dais and then we will 628 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:45,680 bring you back depending on what the coin flip is going to be whether not 629 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,280 we're doing segment A or segment B first. 630 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,600 » So, I think do they need to make individual statements or can they just 631 00:43:52,800 --> 00:44:01,640 say, I recuse, go down the line? >> I would just say very generally because 632 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:05,520 it involves my real property interests. >> And I just wanted to make a quick 633 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:10,880 comment that because this is a general plan and it covers such a broad basis. 634 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,800 This is not really uncommon for this type of recusal. So, it's not 635 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:17,520 affecting anybody. Nobody should be ashamed of recusing themselves. 636 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,520 » Yeah. >> So, uh should I go first? 637 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:29,080 All right. Um I'm going to recuse myself because I have a a real estate interest 638 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,080 in the two of the affected zones. So. 639 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,680 » Dave, I just want to clarify. Can they step into the rear room or do they 640 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,840 » as long as they step out of the room. That that's adequate. Yes. 641 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,880 You can turn off your microphone, please. 642 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,680 » walk us the rest of us through that and so 643 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,760 » Hold on. Wait. We have the A and B sections, right? That not everybody's 644 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,440 recusing for both. >> Uh 645 00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:02,560 because we have uh conflicts on them, you can't participate in the decision as 646 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,680 to whether it's A or B because that's influencing what comes first. So, that's 647 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,600 why all five have to step down right now. And then we'll bring you back 648 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:14,000 depending on what happens with A and B. And I have a coin to do the flip for A 649 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:19,760 and B. >> Got you. Okay. Um I am recuse myself 650 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:23,520 from the portions of the 2045 general plan identified in the draft planning 651 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:29,960 commission resolution due to that decision affecting property within 652 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:34,000 500 ft of my real estate interest. >> I am recusing myself from the portions 653 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:38,600 of the 2045 general plan identified in the draft planning commission resolution 654 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:43,760 due to that decision affecting property within 500 ft of my 655 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,760 real property interest. 656 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:52,120 » I am recusing myself from the portion of the 2045 general plan identified in the 657 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:56,320 draft planning commission resolution due to that decision affecting property 658 00:45:53,960 --> 00:46:00,520 within 500 ft of my real property interest. Thank you. 659 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,520 » I'll be recusing myself for the same matters uh for Portola uh proper real 660 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:09,040 interest properties related at Portola and Moro Avenue. 661 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,640 » And with the exception of Chair Anderson, don't go too far because we're 662 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:17,920 going to be making this decision on ARB very quickly and uh we'll be bringing 663 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,920 some of you back fairly quickly. 664 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,280 » I have all the power now. 665 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:29,800 » Commissioner Keen, at this point um I will go ahead and uh flip a coin. Uh 666 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,680 heads will be A uh and tails will be B. And I'll let you know and then we'll go 667 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,240 from there. >> Great. 668 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:44,320 » Tails, so we'll be starting with segment B. And with segment B, um we only have 669 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:48,240 uh two commissioners who are conflicted out, Commissioner Jones and Commissioner 670 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:55,440 Anderson, so we can bring back Commissioners Pinacchio, um 671 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,440 Farrell, and O'Malley for this matter. 672 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,240 » Okay. 673 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:09,760 » This is what I get for living in the sticks. 674 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,760 Nobody wants to rezone my property. 675 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,360 » And I had straws ready to go if if had been A, and then we would have picked 676 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,040 who would who'd be coming back, but because they don't have conflicts, each 677 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,040 of them can participate. 678 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,720 » When you said I was the only one without a conflict, I thought you were being 679 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,720 hyperbolic. 680 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,880 » Okay, at this point we've gone ahead and seated the commissioners and brought 681 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,520 them back without the conflicts on segment B. So we'll go ahead and start 682 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:26,040 discussing the portion of the general plan that involves segment B. 683 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:31,480 » And just as a reminder, uh segment B deals with medium density 684 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:36,920 uh residential and mixed-use land use designations. So if you have any 685 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:42,560 questions or comments on discussion on that, and then we will take a vote 686 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,560 on that segment. 687 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,400 » Okay. Does anyone have any questions on that 688 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,400 section? 689 00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,920 Uh resolution B. 690 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:08,800 No questions? Anyone want to make a 691 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:12,960 motion? >> So, the motion would be if you look at 692 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:16,880 draft resolution A, um 693 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:21,480 there is a in section four, we are discussing item number two. 694 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:29,600 And so, it would be a recommendation to city council to adopt the medium-density 695 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:35,400 multi-family land use designation and mixed-use land use designations in 696 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,800 accordance with the 2045 general plan. >> Sorry, I have a question. 697 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,640 » Mhm. >> Go for it. 698 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,840 » Okay, I I'm overall, I just realized I'm very confused as to why we had to split 699 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,360 this up and how this has to deal with the environmental impact report and 700 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:52,960 maybe it's cuz I did not do enough reading, but 701 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,640 can you just like walk me through like I have never been in planning commission 702 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,440 before cuz I have no I don't understand what we're doing. 703 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:03,800 » Yeah, so our our general plan covers everything 704 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:08,600 pretty generally, but sometimes a little specifically, um including the design 705 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,920 designation of each individual parcel with a specific land use. So, the 706 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:18,200 commissioners that recused themselves and the remained recused, um have 707 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,720 property within 500 ft of areas that will change and some of our changes are 708 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,040 minor and some of our changes are greater, but they all affect the 709 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,840 development potential of those properties. So, 710 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:35,960 for the medium-density residential, um it's going from uh 711 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:41,200 20 to 24 units an acre to 13 to 24 units an acre, but some of those properties 712 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,960 also used to be zoned low-density uh multi-family that were 10 units per acre 713 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,440 and now they're bumping up into that higher category. So, that's a a 714 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,880 significant density change and development potential for those 715 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,760 properties. Um for the properties um that are now 716 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:59,720 being zoned mixed use, those used to be zoned a different commercial 717 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:02,680 designation. And while we allowed mixed use development there, we're getting 718 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,880 much more specific about development standards and types of mixed use 719 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:10,480 development that are allowed. And we've established different densities for 720 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:15,040 those zones as well. So, because of those factors um those commissioners 721 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:19,560 can't participate in this particular discussion. Um what we're doing tonight 722 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:24,720 is we're adopting one really long resolution that has all of the segments 723 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:28,800 broken out in draft resolution A. And so, 724 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:33,360 um what you guys are asked to do immediately as part of this vote is just 725 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:39,000 make a recommendation on the medium-density multi-family designations 726 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:43,560 within the general plan and any such policies related to such and the mixed 727 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:47,640 use designations as well. And so, just by sort of segmenting our vote 728 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:52,920 differently, even though it's not as graphically represented in in that level 729 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:57,680 of detail, it will allow us to um have everybody participate and make a 730 00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:01,320 full overall recommendation on the general This deals more with the general 731 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:05,680 plan than the EIR. And then when we all come back together, we'll make a 732 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:09,200 recommendation on remaining sections and the EIR. 733 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:15,560 » Okay. Thank you for walking me through that. Now, I understand. So, what we're 734 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:19,800 deciding right now is changing some stuff into that medium 735 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,120 » density >> density multi-family and mixed use land 736 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:30,240 use designation. And it's just what is changing into that in the general plan. 737 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:34,040 » So, you're you're recommending action on anything on our general plan land use 738 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:39,200 map that is zoned medium-density residential and mixed use at this point 739 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:43,520 regardless of specific location. >> Okay. Perfect. Thank you. 740 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:46,920 Okay. >> Can you put the reso the uh resolution 741 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:51,120 on the screen? >> I can, but that is not the words that 742 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:54,600 you need to say right now. Um so if we look at draft resolution A 743 00:53:52,720 --> 00:54:01,840 in section 4 uh number two, that second sentence 744 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:05,880 um has a recommendation statement in it that you would recommend that the city 745 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:09,640 council adopt the medium density multi-family land use designation and 746 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:14,800 mixed use land use designation in accordance with the 2045 general plan. 747 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,600 And so that's the motion that would be made. 748 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,720 » So I will make a motion for the planning commission to recommend the city council 749 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,720 of the city of Atascadero adopt the medium density multi-family land use 750 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:32,880 designation and mixed use land use designation in accordance with the 2045 751 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,880 general plan as shown in exhibit B. 752 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,240 » I will second that motion. You need me to repeat it? 753 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,600 » And now we need a roll call. >> Roll call. 754 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,800 » Full. >> You're good. 755 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,680 » Yeah, I've I've done it like a thousand times. You're good. Yeah, you're fine. 756 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,640 » Commissioner Keen. >> Yes. 757 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,400 » Commissioner Farrell. >> Yes. 758 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,000 » Vice Chairperson Panaggio. >> Yes. 759 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,200 » Commissioner O'Malley. >> Yes. 760 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,200 » Uh motion passes 4-0. 761 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:17,360 » Okay, and at this point um we can invite uh 762 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:20,640 the the commissioner I'm looking at the at my list here, 763 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:26,320 Commissioner Jones back. Uh he does not have a conflict on the re uh 764 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,320 segment A. 765 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:33,800 No, um the FPPC rules say once you're brought back, you can sit on the rest of 766 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,800 it. Yeah. 767 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,280 » So now we're going to do low density. Okay. 768 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:46,480 » Will I need to recuse myself for this section? 769 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:49,840 » So in in looking at the FPPC rules, once you're brought back as a result of the 770 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,760 rule necessity, um you're not required to leave after 771 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,720 that. So that's why we just bring back Commissioner Jones at this point, but 772 00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,200 the remainder of you, since you were brought back due to the rule of 773 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:04,200 necessity to make that quorum, you're not required to exit at that point. 774 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:07,480 » Okay. Will we be participating in the discussion and the voting? 775 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:09,880 » Yes, you can participate. >> Thank you. 776 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:22,040 So now we're going to be discussing A. 777 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,040 I got it here. 778 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:31,280 Dra- uh draft resolution A regarding low density. 779 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,600 » So this is section four, number one. Okay. 780 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,760 Can you put the graphic back on there? 781 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:17,960 So low density multi-family is kind of the more orangey color. 782 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,000 » Does anyone have any questions or comments? 783 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:49,040 » I'll make a motion to recommend the City Council of the city of Atascadero adopt 784 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:52,720 the low-density multi-family land use designation in accordance with the 2045 785 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,840 General Plan as shown in exhibit B. 786 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,840 » I'll second. 787 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,960 » Commissioner Keen? >> Yes. 788 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,600 » Vice Chairperson Panecio? >> Yes. 789 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,160 » Commissioner Farrell? >> Yes. 790 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,920 » Commissioner Jones? >> Yes. 791 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,160 » Commissioner O'Malley? >> Yes. 792 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,160 » Motion passes 5-0. 793 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:28,600 » And at this point we can bring back uh Chair Anderson for the balance of the 794 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,600 determination. 795 00:58:34,115 --> 00:58:37,440 » [laughter] >> Welcome back from timeout. 796 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:42,685 » You need to be absent more often so Panecio can get more practice. 797 00:58:40,665 --> 00:58:42,685 » [laughter] 798 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:58,560 » Crystal's responsible for my cheat sheet so she does a wonderful job. Thank you. 799 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:03,800 Okay, well um thank you for for doing that. We're 800 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:08,640 going to go ahead and continue on to the general portion of discussion on the 801 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:14,200 uh the item. So 802 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:17,440 does anybody have any questions or would like to have any discussion? That's 803 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,360 discussion only so do you would you guys like to have make 804 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:27,480 any have any discussion on the remaining portion of the EAR on the General Plan? 805 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,720 » I had one for staff with The resiliency examination of wildfire 806 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,600 risk in the long term, 807 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,000 is that likely to help change some of the 808 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,640 um classifications of fire risk for our residents to have better outcomes for 809 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,920 their insurance ability their insurability of their homes? 810 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,400 I know that this has been an ongoing issue and I'm I don't know how that 811 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:53,160 interface works where we have the wildland interface. 812 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:56,640 » That's a yet to be determined factor. It's not going to change our local 813 00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:01,320 classifications which are set by the state at this time, but it could have 814 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:05,040 impacts on insurance and insurance does use all of their own parameters for that 815 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:11,280 and we are very hopeful that that will take place and that's the end goal. 816 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,280 » Thank you. 817 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,520 Any other questions? Any other discussion items? No? 818 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:25,320 I'll I'll go ahead. I just had one other one. Um I didn't know if we had a 819 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,320 benchmark on the 820 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,960 what the ultimate goals of the recreational areas were compared to 821 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:35,440 other cities particularly in Paso Robles? Like do we have a 822 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:38,160 acreage or facility per per capita? Is there a benchmark that we look at in a 823 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:42,440 planning standard from the League of Cities or others to see how we're doing 824 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:45,360 for those opportunities? >> There are established standards. We 825 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,480 don't necessarily compare ourselves to other regional communities, but since 826 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:53,720 you bring this topic up, one of our next activities for next year is a parks and 827 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:57,000 recreation master plan for the city. We'll be starting that activity and 828 01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:01,880 bringing some pieces of that activity to you and doing some public outreach on 829 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,520 it. So, although it's not a piece of the general plan, I mean we 830 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,960 do have the park section of the general plan, 831 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,080 but it doesn't get into the the things that we're going to get into with this 832 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:14,160 detailed master plan that looks at all the ratios and all the things. So, 833 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,160 » Thank you. 834 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:24,080 » All right. Well, I don't see any more questions or comments. 835 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:27,720 Uh do I hear a motion to accept the remainder of the or the 836 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,960 the item in whole? 837 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:37,800 Right? This is a vote to to adopt the the whole 838 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:41,720 » Yes, and I believe the motion Do we need to read the title of the resolution 839 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:46,200 minus sections 1 and 2? So, we would read the title of the resolution as your 840 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:51,960 recommendation, and we would make clear that we are 841 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:57,000 subtracting out from that sections 1 through 2 of section 4 of the 842 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,000 resolution. 843 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,480 Just to make it as confusing as possible. 844 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,320 » Could you repeat that sub- sub-section 1 and 2? 845 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:09,520 » Yeah, if you look at section 3 of section 4, it has some language about 846 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:12,560 excluding sections 1 through 2 of section 4. 847 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,880 Um a lot of numbers. 848 01:02:14,197 --> 01:02:18,320 » [laughter] >> Okay. 849 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:24,200 » So, you would make a motion to adopt draft resolution A, 850 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:30,760 all of those words that are in there, and then accepting out those sections 851 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:37,920 that are described in section 1 through 4 or 1 through 2 of section 4 of the 852 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,920 resolution that were already voted on. 853 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,920 » Anyone? There you go. 854 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,480 I'll do it. >> This is so monumental. I'll do it. 855 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,040 » There you go. >> You know me. 856 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,080 » It's for your team. >> Okay. 857 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:58,440 Um I move that the Planning Commission um 858 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:02,440 accept draft PC resolution A, the resolution of the Planning Commission of 859 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:06,600 the city of Atascadero, California, recommending the City Council certify 860 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:10,600 the final environmental impact report, adopt findings of fact pursuant to the 861 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:14,680 California Environmental Quality Act, adopt a mitigation and monitoring and 862 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:19,520 reporting program, and adopt a statement of overriding considerations for the 863 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:24,400 Atascadero 2045 General Plan and Zoning Code Update schedule number 2024070598 864 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:31,800 and adopt the City of Atascadero 2045 General Plan consisting of the following 865 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:36,240 elements: Land Use and Community Form, Economic Development, Mobility, 866 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:40,520 Recreation and Open Space, Public Services and Infrastructure, and Safety 867 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:43,920 and Emergency Preparedness minus section 4 numbers 1 and 2. 868 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,174 » Excellent. >> Do I hear a second? 869 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,560 » the motion, please? >> [laughter] 870 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,920 » If you have another 30 minutes, yes, I can. 871 01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,240 » Do I hear a second? >> I I'll second that. 872 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:04,360 » Okay, Commissioner O'Malley seconds. Okay, can we get a roll call, please? 873 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,800 » Commissioner Keen? >> Yes. 874 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,680 » Commissioner O'Malley? >> Yes. 875 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,720 » Chairperson Anderson? >> Yes. 876 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,680 » Vice Chairperson Panachia? >> Yes. 877 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,280 » Commissioner Farrell? >> Yes. 878 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,160 » Commissioner Jones? >> Yes. 879 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,720 » Motion passes 6-0. >> All right, everybody give yourself a 880 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:23,400 round of applause. And the staff, that was wonderful. 881 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,920 Thank you very much for that. All righty, so 882 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:35,360 Okay. What do we have next? We have Do we have 883 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,360 any reports? 884 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,160 No, let me get to that section. Hold on. 885 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:50,280 No management reports, anything that the commissioners would like to speak about, 886 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:54,160 anything interesting going on they'd like to make comments on? 887 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,120 » Well, I'm I'm a middle school mom, so I was 888 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,880 out there out downtown >> Mhm. 889 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:04,640 » first day of school, watching everything. Um it was 890 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:08,960 wonderful and it went smoothly and it was lovely to see the whole community 891 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:13,480 out there taking photos by City Hall and I grabbed my coffee and I sat on the 892 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:18,200 corner cuz I wanted to watch uh El Camino and watch the the traffic. And it 893 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:23,360 it went very smooth and I ran into several city officials out there and our 894 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:28,080 police chief in uniform, which I think is wonderful. Helps the kids uh behave. 895 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:34,000 So, it was a really nice first day of school out there. So, I just wanted to 896 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,000 thank everybody for that. 897 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:41,880 » Uh our school school uh went pretty well. First day of school is kind of 898 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:45,000 always a uh scary day with the traffic and everything, but uh went really well, 899 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:49,600 so. Any other comments? >> Yes, I have a comment. 900 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:53,240 I was out uh in downtown on Tuesday and I could not find a parking spot. So, 901 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:59,560 we're going to need more parking, please. Uh I had to park all the way on 902 01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:03,400 Entrada to go to the Hawaiian place, which is delicious, by the way. But, uh 903 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:06,680 I had to walk really far away. So, we're going to need more parking. I don't know 904 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:11,080 why we don't have enough parking here. City should get on that. Just wanted to 905 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,080 report back. 906 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,895 » And I would like to request the ability to turn off mics from here. No, I'll 907 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,915 just >> [laughter] 908 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,320 » Okay, um any other comments? >> Just add to that. I'm so glad that we're 909 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,400 starting to have a minuscule parking problem for our downtown uh then our 910 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,800 downtown businesses. So, that's always a good thing. 911 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,360 Lots of activity. >> What's the timeline on the archways 912 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:37,840 being installed? Is that still set for the end of August, I believe, on the 913 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,000 north and south end of El Camino? The entry, the gateways. 914 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:44,640 » Commissioner Farrell, you're getting into the director's report, which I was 915 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:47,200 going to give you just in a moment, so. >> Jumping the gun. 916 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:51,000 » Yeah, I'll answer that along with a whole bunch of other things. 917 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,000 » And parking. 918 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,560 » Already? >> Okay, if 919 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:58,040 if everybody's No, we we got a comment from 920 01:06:54,800 --> 01:07:04,480 » Got one last comment. Uh if you remember way back when at our last meeting a few 921 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:07,360 months ago, we had discussed uh we'd requested 922 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,240 » We actually need your mic to be that loud. 923 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,916 » Really? >> To pick it up for the record. Yeah, 924 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:15,120 thank you. >> [clears throat] 925 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:20,000 » We we had requested a presentation on uh how parks get developed through the 926 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:23,840 city and then also sidewalk development through the city. 927 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:28,480 If you remember that. I was just curious where we were 928 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,480 with something like that. 929 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:36,200 » I don't know. That's a good one. I will follow up later. Thank you for reminding 930 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:40,640 us of that. Thank you. 931 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,640 » I would refer him to the general plan. 932 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:47,200 Okay, if that's all the comments from the commission 933 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:51,920 I will go ahead and hand it over to the director. Uh Phil, would you like to 934 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,800 fill us in on your report, please? >> Yes, Phil can fill you in. 935 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,680 » Thank you. >> Absolutely. There's lots of things 936 01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,960 filling in downtown, which is really nice as well. As you've seen the La Moda 937 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:04,680 project take shape, the new three-story building that's going to be mixed-use 938 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:08,880 with a nice restaurant downstairs and residential above and restaurant spaces 939 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:13,760 that are being built next door to that in the old Winters Garage and Trungs Pho 940 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,600 Place is going to move into there first and other things will follow along with 941 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:20,440 that. So, downtown is really taking shape. You've probably also seen that 942 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:24,759 Beachin' Biscuits is finally starting their construction on their corner site 943 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:28,240 right there. So, that's happening. And um 944 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:32,960 couple bigger projects aren't moving as quickly as we'd like 945 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:37,160 to. Two of those are Del Rio Ranch and Dove Creek. Both of those are probably 946 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:41,680 going to go through some changes of ownership before we see anything happen 947 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,720 on them. So, they are stalled long-term. I'll just let you know that you're 948 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:48,240 probably not going to see anything happen there for quite a bit. Good thing 949 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:52,359 is we're starting to final out some new buildings on the Del Rio Marketplace 950 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:56,000 site though, adjacent to the Valley Fresh Market. We just gave some 951 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:59,759 uh final occupancies to the shell buildings. Not occupancy, but final 952 01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:03,120 approval for the shell building on that property. You can see that that whole 953 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:07,279 area is sort of taking shape and developing as a theme. It's really nice. 954 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,400 Um and as Commissioner Farrell asked, the downtown, the arches, the phase two 955 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:15,640 of the downtown, which is actually three projects. It's two arches and then 956 01:09:13,799 --> 01:09:22,240 repainting of the tunnel um underneath Highway 101 and relighting 957 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:25,480 that with a new theme. And there's been some engineering hurdles with the 958 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:30,440 arches, especially the one on the south end. It's it's a pretty substantial 959 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:33,839 structure. We're getting through that. I don't have an exact start date on that. 960 01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:38,040 I hope to know that soon when that project's actually going to start, but 961 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:41,560 um the construction plans are coming together and 962 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:46,080 and uh Pier Rademaker has done a wonderful uh design with the metal work 963 01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:50,960 with those signs and really hopeful to see that. It's really going to add such 964 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:54,640 a nice touch to downtown. And then um in terms of policy work 965 01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:57,920 upcoming, um just when you thought we were done 966 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:02,240 looking at policy stuff, of course we have a lot of zoning to look at. 967 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:07,680 Our team has been spending hours and hours making sure the zoning 968 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:12,720 is looking good. We've not only had to amend that for the general plan, but 969 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:16,200 we're also amending that for um just state law changes and some of the things 970 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,640 that needed to get cleaned up in there over the years. You've seen a lot of it 971 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:23,040 already, but it's going to come to you for final look soon. It's going to go to 972 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:27,040 council for final look soon. But right on the heels of that, we're already 973 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:30,640 sending out an RFP to write a new housing element, which is a chapter in 974 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:36,440 the general plan that we didn't touch this time, but its due date is in 2028 975 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:41,920 and it's a year-long activity. So, 2027 is going to be the year of the 976 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:47,520 housing element. And um this year the state is asking us to increase 977 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:51,520 the number of uh housing units that we should see in Atascadero and increase 978 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:55,240 those affordability levels. They call that the RHNA, as you recall, is the 979 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:59,960 regional housing needs assessment and or allocation. And each of the communities 980 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:04,560 now is still kind of deciding what those numbers will be, but 981 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,800 the entire number is bigger, um, 982 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:12,200 probably 30 or 40% bigger than our last read number for our county, our region. 983 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,520 So, I don't know how those will be allocated yet. We'll find out and as 984 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,960 soon as we have some more information on that, we'll have that to you. What that 985 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:24,880 does, it feeds back into our housing element and, um, establishes our 986 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:27,040 baseline for each affordability level and and the general number of units. 987 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,240 Now, I'm always happy to report that we've 988 01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:34,120 done really well in years past on developing the housing numbers we need 989 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:37,520 to have. It's always difficult to get the 990 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:41,360 extremely low, but we've been fortunate in this last cycle to have projects like 991 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:45,440 Del Rio Ridge, which is now starting construction on the north end end of El 992 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:49,760 Camino Real, which has affordable housing units built by, um, with 993 01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:55,040 People's Self-Help Housing. Um, we've had other affordable projects, um, on 994 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:59,400 the south end of town as well, and those are taking shape. Um, 995 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,520 so, we've had a lot of, you know, voluntary direction in that particular 996 01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:06,880 arena. Um, 997 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:11,160 and then, um, other policy work that we're probably working on, I mentioned 998 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:15,040 earlier parks and recreation, um, master plan, 999 01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:18,440 and then, um, what other things are going to be doing? Kelly, do you recall 1000 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,640 the other list of items that we talked about the other day? 1001 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:25,640 » I think, uh, short-term rental ordinance is coming back for review. 1002 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:30,800 » we got to bring back. That one is That one that everyone loves, short-term 1003 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:34,880 rentals. Um, that's really tough. Airbnbs, we've had a lot of outreach on 1004 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:38,640 those. We've done a couple policy things on it. Council kind of tabled it, but we 1005 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:44,920 got to bring it back. Um, and also, um, council has asked me 1006 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:50,120 to look at, um, community facility districts, so I'll be doing 1007 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,240 a presentation on that to council, um, 1008 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:57,760 especially for the downtown for mixed use projects in October. 1009 01:12:55,240 --> 01:13:01,320 And so we'll see how that plays out. And that's the 1010 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:05,400 additional, I'll call it, tax that we put on larger residential projects. But 1011 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:10,440 what we're finding is that mixed use projects in the downtown are actually 1012 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:14,680 fiscally neutral to positive. So um might alter that a little bit. So 1013 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:18,280 lots of work going on. We have a great team in community 1014 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:21,920 development and um I'm also happy to answer questions you 1015 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:26,000 might have about any other policy or development projects that are 1016 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,000 going on in town. 1017 01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:31,840 » Ear- Earlier you said that a project stalled. You say Dove Creek or Barrel 1018 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,280 Creek? >> Dove Creek. 1019 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:37,000 » Dove Creek. >> Barrel Creek is actually still active 1020 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,680 and there's a new owner for the property. We just met with them last 1021 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,800 week. Um thanks for reminding me of that 1022 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,880 project and uh they're thinking about changing the land use just a little bit, 1023 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:51,560 tweaking it on site, but they haven't quite decided yet, but they're all in. 1024 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:54,800 Um and there's you know, um energy towards the public 1025 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:59,760 improvement plans, private improvement plans on site. So I think they've got 1026 01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:02,960 that nailed down. Um and they want to build it. So that's 1027 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:06,360 that's still on the table. So Barrel Creek's on the table, 1028 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,440 uh which will complete kind of Del Rio quite a bit except for the Del Rio Ranch 1029 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:14,240 property at the south 1030 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,640 east corner of Del Rio and El Camino. We'll probably sit like that for quite 1031 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:21,400 some time. It's just a challenging property. Not to 1032 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,720 mention the property has deed restrictions that Walmart left our 1033 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:28,520 community, which is really frustrating that they did that to us. So 1034 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:32,400 um it's challenging. So we'll see what what 1035 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,840 happens with that. >> Okay. 1036 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:40,280 All right. Well, thank you. Wonderful. Did you have any questions? 1037 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,360 » Yeah. >> Keating? 1038 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,840 » Well, >> Commissioner Keating would like to ask a 1039 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,200 question. If you would indulge her. 1040 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:51,720 » Bill, what's up with Chick-fil-A? 1041 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,760 » Tori, what's going on with Chick-fil-A? >> Yeah. 1042 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,680 » So, Eric, tell us what's going on with Chick-fil-A. Eric is actually the 1043 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,400 project planner for Chick-fil-A. >> Okay, I'm going to give you her number. 1044 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:02,920 » Here, did you have >> I'm going to give your number to my 1045 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,880 daughter so she can stop bothering me and she can bother you because 1046 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:09,080 » I know we reviewed the construction plans and they came in for a second 1047 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:12,480 check, but are they ready? Are they >> He was told she was going to get chicken 1048 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:17,000 nuggets this year and if she doesn't get those chicken nuggets, you need to deal 1049 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:20,800 with her wrath. I'm done. >> Hey indicator, I think we should be 1050 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:25,040 fine. We'll figure it out. Um yeah, Chick-fil-A is uh 1051 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:30,000 still going. So, they we have building permit applications in for the 1052 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:33,040 Chick-fil-A building and for uh the building right next to it which is a 1053 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:36,120 retail shell which I'm sure you care about just as much as the Chick-fil-A. 1054 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:40,120 Um and they are in their second uh plan 1055 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:43,480 check right now. So, we're actually in the throes of that review um with us, 1056 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:48,640 fire, um building, and public works per usual. 1057 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:52,640 Um and you know, hopefully if they have any more corrections uh left, they'll be 1058 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:57,000 pretty minor. Um what we typically try to do with our uh plan checks is on the 1059 01:15:55,240 --> 01:16:00,640 second plan check for this these like major projects or you know, larger 1060 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:06,160 commercial projects, is we'll try to meet with them the actual applicant team 1061 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:09,440 so as to avoid any further reviews after the second if we can. 1062 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:12,040 Um so, that'll be probably next steps here if they have any leftover 1063 01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:15,720 corrections, but Chick-fil-A specifically on my end, I just finished 1064 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:18,880 my review yesterday and they do not have any more corrections for me. So. 1065 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,920 » So, are we going to get chicken nuggets this year or what? 1066 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,400 » I mean, depends on how quickly they can build, but I'll I'll be out there with 1067 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,000 the hammer and that makes it go by better. 1068 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:30,040 » Me too. And my daughter, too. So, you just let me know. 1069 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:34,240 » Seriously doubt they could build in 3 months, but you never know. I think it's 1070 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:37,200 more like a 6-month. We'll see. Cut with that attitude. 1071 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:40,920 » I'll tell her I'll tell her she'll get chicken nuggets by next summer. 1072 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:45,880 Okay, perfect. >> All righty. Well, they did want to say 1073 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:49,280 that there is a new uh Wingstop in town. So, 1074 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:52,800 if you need your chicken fix, you know, you can always offer that up. 1075 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,240 Alrighty. >> I'll see what she thinks about that. 1076 01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:03,600 » Okay. Well, it looks like we are coming to the end of this uh 1077 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,800 Oh, one more question. Go ahead. I'm sorry. 1078 01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:10,040 » I just wanted to compliment the city staff both on the presentation today but 1079 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:13,880 on on both things, the general plan and the the applicant for the subdivision. 1080 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:17,960 But also um I'm friends with a couple of tenants off 1081 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,640 of Dale Rio and they've had some challenges with the 1082 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,720 state for certain components of their business but they were very 1083 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,160 complimentary of the planning and building department every time and felt 1084 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,760 that they had an ally to help them through the process rather than 1085 01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:33,160 impediments. So, I wanted you to hear that. 1086 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:36,320 » Thank you. >> Always. 1087 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:40,120 Always helpful. And you know what? I I just want to say 1088 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:43,440 something. A lot of cities aren't as wonderfully helpful. They are an 1089 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:47,320 impediment and you go there and you just groan, 1090 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,960 you know? So, wonderful. That's good to hear. Thank you. 1091 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:56,000 Sure they appreciate the feedback. And uh okay, so we're going to go ahead 1092 01:17:52,920 --> 01:18:01,280 and uh adjourn this meeting until I guess September 1st is our next meeting? 1093 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:04,320 Yeah? Okay. Until September 1st. We'll see you all then. Thank you.