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Okay. Where's that?
>> Good morning. I'd like to welcome

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everyone to the Aerson County Commission
meeting for Tuesday, September 8th. I'd

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like to call the meeting to order and if
our clerk could please provide a roll

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call.
>> Commissioner Quinn,

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» present. Commissioner Campbell
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» All right. If you please stand and join
Rachel Danner for our invocation

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followed by the pledge of allegiance.
>> Good morning.

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» Good morning.
>> Let us pray.

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Gracious and loving God, we give you
thanks that you call us to love one

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another, to be your people, and to
gather together, to make decisions, to

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be discerning about how best to serve
you, how best to care for and with one

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another, and how to be your people
united in this place, to do your work,

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to serve each other, and to care for
your world. Lord, we ask that as we

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gather together that you will help us to
listen for you, to be discerning, and to

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hear your words for each and every one
of us. That we can make the best

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decisions to be your people in this time
and in this place doing your work with

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energy, intelligence, imagination, and
love. Lord, all these things we pray in

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Jesus name. Amen.

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I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for its one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» All right, public comment. Uh, Mr.
Neman, you want to come up?

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Oh,
>> if you want to come up here. Sure,

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» Eric Neman.
Um, I just heard on the radio that there

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was some comments about data centers at
the last meeting

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and what I know about them is zero.
But, uh, you hear a lot of negative

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comments, but I would just hope that the
commission would keep an open mind. I

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think there's a huge monetary benefit to
them

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and um talking to some other people that
are working on the one out at the Jeffre

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Center. Um there's going to be a lot of
benefit to the county out there.

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Um,
but I would just hope that the

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commission, whether it be through a
public forum or what have you, would

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keep an open mind that um
uh might be a sign of the times thing to

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come. It's going to be somewhere anyway.
Uh whether our county could benefit from

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it.
>> Awesome.

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» That's all I have. Hey, thank you so
much. Yeah, and just um that was a day

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uh it was on there there was a
gentleman, a constituent that was asking

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what we were doing um to protect
ourselves from it and I

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it's one of those things like if you
asked me a question I would bring it and

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he watched the meeting and he's like I
didn't see it and so I put it on the

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agenda so I remembered to ask what we
would do. Um but I'm not aware of any

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looking at right now but we were just
trying to um be proactive and Mr. Van

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Paris was um gathering some data for us
as well. Um just as far as educating

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ourselves, right? Because that was the
point. We we all need to educate

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ourselves on the facts because there's a
lot of noise out there.

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» Um and just making sure we don't fall
succumb to noise.

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» But I've seen other counties that say
no, we're going to put a moratorum

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against them and
>> and uh that's it. But um you know I

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think they really need to be looked at
as what it could do for the county and

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um what what the downfall and what the
benefits are and weigh those.

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» Yeah. No, I we haven't made any kind of
policy decision on it. U it's it's

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certainly not a new uh thing in our in
our local community because we're seeing

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it. like you said, if you're following
it, it's happening all around us and

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there's push back. Um, and and I'm sure
you're aware of the push, the reasons

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for the push back. Um, and you you know
our stance this last year and a half,

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two years on tax incentives and taxes,
right? We're we're we're we're pro uh

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property owner. So, so we are trying our
best to uh come in on the side of

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property owners in uh because they are
providing the majority of our budget the

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property. So, what we're doing is uh
looking at everything through that lens.

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Can it be can it can it profit our
community? Whatever it is,

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» I don't care if it's,
>> you know, data centers or whatever we're

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talking about. Does it profit? and
what's the temperature of the community

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on certain things. So, when it comes to
data centers, um we're looking for as

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much information as we can get. Um and
we definitely want to be transparent.

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You know, if if what whatever we decide,
but uh but there are plenty of issues

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and plenty of folks that are pushing
back as we speak uh on it and we want to

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have all our facts. But thank I
appreciate

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Yeah.
>> Coming in because that

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» when when we hear directly from it it
from folks it it it shows that they're

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engaged that they're concerned
>> and speaking to your request of

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open-minded when you sit in a seat I
feel like that's a must because you re

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represent your constituents. So keeping
an open mind to understand both sides

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and you know pros and cons basically is
like what you're explaining and

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» well I think what what I've seen abson
county is is a lot of status quo

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and to look at something else that would
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of things. So, um,
>> yeah. Yeah. The status quo meaning leave

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things alone the way they are and let it
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» just doing maintenance.
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» But, you know, something that would have
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you're looking at infrastructure, you're
looking at roads, you're looking at

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schools,
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» water lines, how all that could be bene
beneficial to uh something like that.

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And from what I hear, it is a huge
monetary benefit to a an area where they

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where they come.

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» Thank you.

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Gary,

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» how are you guys today?
>> Good. How are you?

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» My name is John Garing. I go by Greg.
I'm here to see if I can get a request

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on 234th Road.
You guys lowered the speed limit from

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the cemetery to the church to 35 m an
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I would like to see it from the church
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There's people I've called the sheriff's
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fly up down that road 70 mph.
There's like 10 intersections,

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not counting two road intersections, and
there's blind spots.

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And I mow along there. I take care of
that a lot around my property. If

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anybody's been down that way, they can
see that I mow and take care of

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everything.
But, you know, there some of that grass

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gets on the road, I blow it off the
road. But the other day, I had a a white

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truck come by me about 70 mph. And I
thought there's blind spots, there's

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intersections, people live there, and I
I don't see why a resolution can't be

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made to make it 35 from the church to
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But I mean, I got semis running up down
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be on it.
So, I didn't know if anything can be

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done about that. But I mean there's like
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» So, um, a couple things as I know
exactly where you're talking about. And

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so I, um, as I'm hearing you say this, I
think that we need to do a good job of

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quantifying what what would entail a
change because then, you know, we opened

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up a can of worms that everybody coming
in would ask us to change to 35 mph. we

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need to quantify based on what you're
saying like how many driveway interest

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spot sight distance all of the things.
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» I know that there's like the blanket of
if there's not a speed limit on our

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rural roads it's 55 m an hour. Um, and
then looking into how we can quantify

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those areas because all of these speed
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And so I need to lean on um our county
counselor a little bit for guidance on

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on how we do it. Um, and make sure it's
warranted so that you know if there's

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another request, there's a rhyme or
reason, we didn't just do it because we

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were asked that, right? You know,
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the speed limit's not 55. going to warn
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» I mean,
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back at how those were done because
you're right there. Those stretches of

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road have a lot of folks living in
driveways off of them. So maybe it's a

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certain amount in proximity. I don't
really know what the answer.

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» I did a couple resolutions way back
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Okay.
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road. school bus picked them up and you
know I did resolutions 20 m an hour I

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think it was 25 going to the quarry and
stuff well they've stole those signs but

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I still had signs on my road but UPS
sends FedEx up I mean their internet or

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whatever sends them down there instead
of going down the highway going down

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they come down through that dirt road
and I've caught a couple of them you

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know you slow down there's a little year
and a half two-year-old little girl

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right there on our road again now got
kids And she goes out in the middle of

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the road following her mom to the
mailbox. She don't even know what's

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following her.
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» I mean and and
but you know I try to try to slow people

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down. They don't. And then I thought you
know maybe I put some speed bumps in the

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road and I said no and I'd be liable
somebody has a wreck.

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» Yeah.
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» yes sir.
>> I apologize. I missed your last name

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sir.
>> Garen.

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» Garen. Yeah. I'm David Van Paris. Nice.
Glad to meet you. Um,

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we had a fellow down in Lorth County.
His solution to his problem was he'd go

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out and break beer bottles in middle
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» So, I apologize for not putting in your
>> Oh, no.

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» The county commissioners have a duty to
maintain safe roadway limits.

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» Speed limits have to be, however,
determined by what's called an

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engineering study. That's what the state
law says. It does not define what an

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engineering study is, but generally I've
always believed it is it's meant to

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reference a deliberate
studied determination of what is safe

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speed on a certain section of roadway
is. And uh you know, you've brought the

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matter before the commission's
attention, which in my mind means we

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have to look at it now.
>> Well, there there's deer that cross that

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road all the time. People have hit
several big bucks by the I call it the

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Wana Creek bridge right there. I don't
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drains down in there. And there's
neighbors and it's been recorded.

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They've had hogs on the road. They've
had cattle on the road. I mean, I've

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I've rebuilt all my fence. I haven't had
any cows out. Knock on wood. But, uh,

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» it's because they don't want to get out.
>> No, I hope not. But I have had cattle

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get out before. And and but I mean
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out.
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place, there's like a six, seven foot
ditch on that side of the road and

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somebody can easily go over. There was a
couple guys worked for Buddy Lee. They

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went all up in it. I pulled them out my
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» have you ever made any reports to the
the sheriff Lowry and his department

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regarding the excessive speed? I called
him the other day when that guy flew

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around me. I said something needs to be
done out here. People, they don't drive

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55.
Even when the church going on up there,

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they don't drive 35.
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there's a lot of lot of activity on the
weekends,

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you know, but I'm just trying to get
something maybe settled so there is an

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accident. some of them places where they
come out of their driveway, you know,

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there's blind spots that come up over
that hill. There's a driveway and

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another one. I mean, it's it's going to
happen sooner or later,

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but
I just wanted to bring it to you guys

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attention. Maybe they can look at it and
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» see what's going on.
>> Thank you for bringing it up. I know

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there's pedestrians that walk on that
road, too.

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» Oh, yeah. PRS walk on there all the
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» Yeah. We will um we will look into this
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do our deliberate study and see what we
come up with and what that process looks

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like and
be interesting to learn learn it.

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Commissioner, it it could start with a
request by you to the road and bridge

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department to examine that section of
road and what might be in their opinion

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an appropriate speed limit.
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» sounds good to me.
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» Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you, guys.

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Okay, we have approval of the agenda.
Um, I've looked for a motion to approve.

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» So move.
>> Second. Moved and seconded. All those in

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favor say I. Passes two to zero. There
is no consent agenda this week. Um, our

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commission meeting minutes will be or
the first will be on next week. Um,

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Commissioner comments, Commissioner
Campbell.

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Well, uh
we will the country will commemorate uh

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the 911 um

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date Friday. So this will be 25 years
since 911.

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And so that what we will do here at the
county is what we did last year was meet

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at the flag pole that morning. I don't
have a specific time yet. I'm kind of

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waiting on that. Um, but we will get it
out to the staff and publicly to the

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community.
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want to let you know that there are of
course there are hundreds if not

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thousands of these going on around the
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25 years I I believe is uh a significant
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um this this year happens to be our 250
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and so I think it's significant that we
pay closer attention

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this year 25 years uh what it also means
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We have an entire generation that has
grown up after 911. And what's

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significant about that is that
these these commemorations educate those

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those folks if they don't already know.
Uh this this helps to educate those

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folks so that we never have this happen
again. We need to stay vigilant and this

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is part of part of doing that. So
that's all I have.

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Thank you. Um I do not have anything
this week. Um consideration of a quarter

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cent sports complex sunset resolution.
Mr. Van Paris

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with all apologies. I don't have that
prepared for you this morning. I I will

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need to contact our bond council to uh
work on that. I believe he may have

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circulated draft but I cannot locate it
in my email. So we'll work that up. I

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did have occasion to discuss with the
Kansas Department of Revenue

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upcoming quarter cents or 1 cent sales
tax for EMS purposes. Oddly enough, the

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young lady I was speaking to in the
department of revenues office, her

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mother taught mathematics at Herson High
School for 32 years.

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» So, she's very interested in assisting
the county in getting this done. Uh I

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discussed with her whether well what she
needed to uh have this proceed. Uh we

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discussed a possible certification of
election that the approval of the ballot

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question from the secretary of state's
office. It was suggested to me that

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instead we rely and the department of
revenue would rely upon certification

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from our county clerk as to the result
of the election on the question. uh upon

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receipt of a certified uh statement of
the uh result u the process will start.

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» Okay.
>> And they they expressed interest great

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interest in assisting the county.
>> Okay. And that's for the one that just

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passed.
>> Yes. For the EMS the sunset will take

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care of as well.
>> Okay.

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All right. Um, discussion of appointed
attorney contracts.

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Uh, what information? So, I have the
email drafted to them. Um,

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the commission's the commission or based
on what we discussed this morning,

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commissioners are preparing for our
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um the renewal

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of your 2027 contracts and your current
contract amount is $3,500 a month.

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If each of you would please send us a
quantification of your time spent

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performing your court append appointed
duties that will be helpful. case

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numbers, hours spent, descriptions, I
think is what we talked about. Uh,

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please send us the contracted amount
you'd like to see in 2027. We are

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working at looking at potential revenue
from order attorney and guardian adalum

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fees.

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Commissioner, there are a rather limited
number of cases uh that uh you are

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required to provide legal counsel for
that can be reimbursed from the office

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of the Kansas attorney general. We need
to look into that process. And again,

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it's rather limited, but it is
available.

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» Okay.
Do you know how to spell that? Because

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my spell check is not giving me a
suggestion, but telling me I didn't

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spell
>> guardian as in the

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» Oh, yeah. I know that. Adel item. Then
eight separate word a d

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another word l i t e m

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» l i t e n words.
>> Thank you.

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» Anything else on that email before I
send it? I mean, anything else you want

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to see?

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No, I mean,
no, I think that that'll

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clear things up. Like I said, I don't
want them to think that we're set in

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stone, that we just can't move forward
without that information. So, yeah.

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» All right. Well, that was all that I
have this week. So if you don't have

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anything else
that

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» Oh yeah. So from last week we pushed um
the

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auditors
um additional due diligence um to this

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week. They sent the breakdown of what we
requested. So I'd look for a motion to

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approve the purchase order from last
week to Forvis Mazar for $10,192.

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» So move.
>> I'll second. Moved and seconded. All

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those in favor say I.
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the 15th we have Holly coming with a
consideration of PO for 2027 CVN

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mailings that's all we have for next
week so far so

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all right well with that I would look
for a motion to adjourn into workshop.

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» So moved.
>> Second. Moved and seconded. All those in

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favor say I. I. Passes two to zero.