1 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:29,840 I'd like to order call to order the committee the whole meeting for August 2 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:33,520 10th, 2026 at 4:30 p.m. First order of business is disclosure of 3 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,560 pecuniary interest and the general nature thereof. 4 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:41,640 I see two hands go up. Councilor Stubbs, are you there? 5 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,240 » I'm going to be declaring a conflict of interest uh 6 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:51,480 » Okay. Councilor Shine, I expect the same? 7 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:56,560 » Yes. Thank you, Mayor Ferguson. >> Okay. That's noted. Thank you. 8 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Any other disclosure of pecuniary interest or the general nature thereof 9 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:05,160 can be declared now or any time during the meeting. 10 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:10,280 We have no delegations for tonight. So, we'll get to Committee of the Whole 11 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:15,360 reports, and first up is Administration and Employee Relations 12 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:19,480 and we'll CAO report. We'll turn it over to CAO Young. 13 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:25,200 » Thank you, Mayor Ferguson. So, included in your package today is the update for 14 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:28,600 July and August. Unfortunately, I have limited staff here today, but uh myself 15 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,600 or Brandy will do our best to answer any questions that you may have. 16 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,680 » Any questions from anybody regarding the report? 17 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,280 Yes, Councillor Lyons. >> Thank you, Mayor Ferguson. Um I do have 18 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:46,320 a couple of questions about the report. Um maybe I'll start with the Mud Lake 19 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:50,200 culvert. In there, you noted that um there's a delay in the the construction 20 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,640 schedule. Do we have an anticipated start date for 21 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,680 the contractor? >> Unofficially, unofficially, um 22 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,800 we're hoping by the end of this month. >> Okay. 23 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,360 » We've had some renewed communication, so it sounds like they are getting um 24 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,959 organized. So, fingers crossed end of the month. 25 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,600 » Okay, and you're not anticipating any impacts to timing for the construction 26 00:03:07,239 --> 00:03:10,600 window. It'll still be completed this year. 27 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:16,040 » Okay. Um if I may, 28 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,320 uh another question I had was regarding the GFL. 29 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,239 Um the financial implications, so this 30 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,200 might be a question for yourself and Treasurer 31 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:27,680 Colson. So, 32 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:32,800 looking at this, um 33 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:36,800 we've received notice from GFL about an increase in the commercial 34 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:41,120 institutional cost 35 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,120 that the town is paying. Correct? 36 00:03:41,959 --> 00:03:45,720 » So, you're you're referencing uh the GFL recycle collection? 37 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,800 » Yes. >> So, we're that's not in the update. If 38 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,560 we could If we could wait till that. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. We can come back 39 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 to that. >> Sure. 40 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:58,600 » And then just another quick question regarding the outdoor rinks. Um I think 41 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,960 that's great that they are getting some improvements. Um just what type of 42 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,800 improvements will we see for the winter season or we anticipating seeing? 43 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:11,160 » So there was some plumbing work in the Don Park shack that I think was a 44 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,200 bit of a deterrent last It was one of the reasons possibly for the delay last 45 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,799 year. That's all been done. There's been some 46 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:22,840 interior work at Lone Pine as well as the rink itself. 47 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:26,600 And then we are looking at see if we can sneak in painting the the shack before 48 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,360 the the winter season as well. >> Okay. Thank you. 49 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:35,680 » Painting the exterior as well. >> We're hoping to, yeah. Yeah. 50 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 » Councillor Martin. 51 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:51,400 » This is a good question. So from what I understand they still meet 52 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:55,360 quite regularly. Linda represents the town and she tries 53 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,000 to make it to those meetings. I think they've they've 54 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:03,840 found what what we already know in a lot of projects. It's hard to get 55 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:07,320 engaged professionals to to provide those 56 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,080 services. So I think as far as the engineering goes I think that they've 57 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:15,040 run into some challenges getting people to help them with the engineering or of 58 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,840 the initial design. They are currently challenged or 59 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,960 continue to do some fundraising 60 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,960 and to find that. So it's moving along slowly. 61 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:37,200 So the council had had directed staff to 62 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:41,600 direct them towards Centennial Park. So Centennial Park is still the preferred 63 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:45,720 location and again depending on what what they want to 64 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,800 design there's room for expansion in in different areas like that. So I would 65 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,640 assume that once they get to a point where they have some um 66 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,600 engineer drawings or designs that they'll they'll we'll report back to 67 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,160 council with that. >> Okay. 68 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:04,400 I I just thought we're tearing up a couple of streets. Like, could some of 69 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:08,120 that fill go to that location? Uh you know, like it's subgrade kind of 70 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:12,800 material for those jump jumps and what have you, I would imagine. 71 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:16,200 I'm not a dirt expert. Uh I have experience in manure. 72 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Works well. >> The problem is you wouldn't want to 73 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,919 create a partially done project that might sit 74 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,280 there for an extended period of time cuz you could create issues there as well. 75 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:31,039 So, I think they'll probably wait till they have something firm and committed 76 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:33,160 before they would actually move on it. >> [clears throat] 77 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,000 » Councilor Shannon. >> Thank you, Mayor Ferguson. Um my 78 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:40,880 question is in regards to the pool since um the RFP and things are moving a 79 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,960 little bit slower, are you still planning to be open by the end of 80 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:48,480 August? And if you aren't, what are you going to do about the patrons? Will they 81 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:53,960 get an extra month somewhere fit in there if they paid ahead of time? 82 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:57,480 » I don't I don't know how many people have paid 83 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:01,720 ahead of time sort of thing. Um we we would look at that if if it came around. 84 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:05,960 We are looking at early September for if all goes well to to be opened up again. 85 00:07:03,919 --> 00:07:09,440 If we can't get all of the repairs done um in that amount of time, then we will 86 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,200 schedule them at a later date. >> Okay. Thank you. 87 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,280 » Councilor Johnson. >> Thank you, Mayor Ferguson. Uh in lieu of 88 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,480 uh Tyler's vacancy, but I 89 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,919 respect why. Um 90 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:30,000 is there an update on the street sweeper? 91 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:33,800 » Um so, both the street sweeper and street sweeper and the sidewalk machine 92 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:36,640 were both down. The sidewalk machine is up and running with the with the brush 93 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,800 on there. They've been utilizing that in some of the bad areas. 94 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:43,000 Uh the street sweeper itself is still under 95 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,480 repairs. Uh and we do not have an estimated time 96 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,280 when that will be finished. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but 97 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,560 once they get in there right and they start looking a little deeper, there's 98 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,960 there's a lot of work that needs to be done with it. 99 00:07:52,680 --> 00:08:01,880 » And my second question is, I see the track dozer is in for repairs. Would we 100 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,560 be privy to the final cost of that them repairs? 101 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,680 » Yeah, I don't have that information with me, but I mean certainly once they're 102 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,280 done that's information that we could be we could find for you. 103 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,280 » Thank you. 104 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:22,120 » Thank you, Grayson. A lot going on, so 105 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:27,440 good report and good questions. Thank you. So, we'll move on to the next 106 00:08:24,355 --> 00:08:33,159 [snorts] one is NWMO federal impact assessment update. 107 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:39,200 » Okay, so as council members, that was a discussion shortly after the NOMA 108 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:43,800 conference end of April, and staff was able to with the help of of 109 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,000 some council to to get the request into the impact registry, and 110 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,760 happy to happy to report that those submissions were 111 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:56,120 I think successful in the sense that we are now 112 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:59,160 specifically mentioned in the in the registry. I think that's a really 113 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:05,200 important uh uh determination because and and 114 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:10,320 almost immediately we found a change of of tone and discussion with NWMO and 115 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:14,520 other people because of that now. So, I think it's very important that we are we 116 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,520 are listed in that, and it'll be it'll help us moving forward. 117 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Yeah. >> Again, the 118 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:25,240 talk discussions I've had with NWMO since has been much a lot more substance 119 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,320 to it. And a lot more professional as opposed 120 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,920 to just giving us an update on what's going on. 121 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:37,880 They've been working with us on that, so >> Yeah, we're also trying to coordinate 122 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:42,680 uh, a session hopefully at the end of September for them to come down and and 123 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,360 give everyone a a presentation and an update and give you guys an opportunity 124 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,560 to ask some questions. So, we're currently trying to schedule that for 125 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,560 the end of September. 126 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,160 » Can I get a mic closer? 127 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:58,920 » Okay. Any other questions for Jason on that? 128 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:04,960 Okay. Seeing none, we'll move on to 129 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:07,560 finance, public works, GFL recycle collection. 130 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:12,160 Jason. >> Yep. So, um, I understand uh, Counselor 131 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Lyons has a has a question too on that. So, uh, 132 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,840 I'll take any questions and then be able to hopefully explain anything if we can. 133 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,760 » Ryan or Counselor Stephenson. >> I'll let 134 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:30,800 » Oh, okay. Go ahead, Counselor Lyons. >> Yes, my question regarding um, this was 135 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:34,400 what sort of financial implications are uh, coming out of this recommendation? 136 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,200 Specifically, um, 137 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:42,080 I know that there was money budgeted for this year, 138 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:46,120 but with the excess of recycling for commercial 139 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:49,800 institutional, um, 140 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:55,040 I guess the question is, what can we expect for this year? How 141 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:58,320 how far have we exceeded that 11 tons? >> Yeah, it's it's tough to tell right now 142 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,920 cuz we haven't done a full year. >> Mhm. 143 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,880 » Um, and these are all uh, 144 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:07,200 estimates, right? So, so we won't really know until until we go through a couple 145 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:11,120 cycles for that. Uh, the nice thing is is that we are getting the annual rent 146 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:15,360 um, for the depot itself. Uh, and and again, we 147 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:19,360 we are hoping that that revenue will offset any sort of expenses 148 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:25,560 um, after those 12 scheduled pickups, after that 11.097 tons of pickup, uh, we 149 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:29,360 believe that there will be um, earned revenues that will be able to pay for 150 00:11:26,839 --> 00:11:33,920 those expenses honestly. And then uh, again, trying to figure out um, 151 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:38,120 uh, possibly purchasing or or renting an extra couple bins so that we can keep 152 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:43,240 the flow going. It's It's too It's too 153 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:46,920 soon to really be able to tell. Um Having said that, I think it's a great 154 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:51,800 opportunity to to bring forward that we need to lobby the provincial 155 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:58,120 government that the IC&I, the industrial commercial portion, was was overlooked 156 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:01,520 in this circular materials transfer and we're not the only municipality saying 157 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:05,360 saying that. And and and I hope that the province will understand their oversight 158 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:09,560 on that matter and that there'll be some changes coming for that. 159 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,200 We're still committed to cuz we're seeing um 160 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:17,400 the direct benefit of that being diverted from our landfill. So, you 161 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:20,560 know, we we do There is a cost for us to go around and pick all that up. We 162 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:25,080 believe that's money well spent in the sense that we are diverting that. It is 163 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:28,720 probably being recycled with the hope that the province will 164 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:32,240 understand their oversight and and be able to fund that to a certain degree. 165 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:36,120 So, it it'll be hard for us to know until we've gone through a cycle or two, 166 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,600 but we believe the revenue will offset any 167 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,880 possible expenses. >> Is this something that could be raised 168 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:45,640 through NOMA or AMO? >> Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I think this 169 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:50,560 is a great a great delegation request moving forward or any opportunity that 170 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:53,920 you have to lobby that. I think that I'm sure they're well aware because I 171 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:58,560 think a lot of municipalities are having those same discussions and the larger 172 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:02,680 the city probably even more so, but yeah, I agree. Yeah. 173 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,320 » Yeah, I can just if I can just speak to that. 174 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:10,839 I was really surprised I think it was AMO last year and I went to a 175 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:16,400 session on this. And there's there's people that haul their garbage 500 km 176 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,920 to to the landfill and then they're having 177 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:25,960 to deal with all the indust- the ICI stuff, too. So, 178 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:30,960 I I would really surprise me and at how much there was to haul and 179 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:35,440 and how passionate a lot of the people were. So, we're getting a lot of There's 180 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:38,720 a getting a lot of traffic on this and and I don't know if it was an oversight 181 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:43,000 or it was a plan by the province, but they are getting pushed back on this. 182 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:47,240 So, we're hopefully we can see some some movement on that because I think it is 183 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:51,320 the right thing to do collect it. Uh even though it's for the towns are doing 184 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:55,480 it, but uh just want to encourage all the all the 185 00:13:53,200 --> 00:14:00,560 residents in town if you can You can put as much as you want at your curb and 186 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,400 they will pick it up every Monday. So, 187 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,600 and I and I understand people that might miss the recycle truck and they're going 188 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:13,000 out to the dump. So, they throw their recycle bags in our bins, which is 189 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:16,080 a good thing to do, but uh if we could put it out at the road the 190 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:21,160 residents could put it out at the road. That's that'd be a big savings for for 191 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,720 the town and and stop the the amount that's going to 192 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:28,560 » Yeah, it helps us We don't want to reach our 11.097 193 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:32,080 times too quickly, right? So, if we can have if if if you're putting 194 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,920 that curbside that doesn't go towards that, which is good for us. So, it 195 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,360 stretches that out. Yeah. >> Councillor Johnson, sorry. 196 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:46,360 » Mr. Mayor Ferguson, excuse me. Jason, do we realize any monies from the 197 00:14:42,839 --> 00:14:50,120 electronic collection cuz they they do have a value? 198 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,640 » I will have to get that information for you. I'm not sure. 199 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,080 » Okay. >> Yeah, I know with there used to be like 200 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:59,480 stewardship for the rubber tires and and there is there is revenue associated 201 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,680 with the white metals. The electric electronics there might be 202 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,040 a small um 203 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:09,800 revenue off that, but I don't know. Yeah, I'll look. I'll I'll get back to 204 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,800 you guys on that. 205 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,080 » Councillor Knowles. >> Yeah, thank you, Mayor Ferguson. I'm 206 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,560 just I'm trying to wrap my head around this. 207 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Um we are certain that all of the recycling 208 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:27,520 being put out is residential. Um I'm just I'm confused by the fact 209 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:31,680 that we seem to have lower than average curbside collection, 210 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:37,240 but that we would be worried that people would be bringing an average of almost 1 211 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:40,880 ton of recycling out on the highway um to make up for that because they 212 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,200 missed recycling day that happens every week. So, I'm just I'm trying to wrap my 213 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,640 mind around the sheer amount of recyclables that it 214 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:51,880 would take to make 1 ton average per month. It's 215 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,040 up in excess. >> So, it it is based 216 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,240 So, again, there's a lot of estimates happening. 217 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Um and then and then we try and do a a calculation on 218 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:07,080 residents who do not have access to curbside pickup, and then that forms the 219 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:10,200 basis for the the rental of the depot at the landfill. So, to to our benefit, 220 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:15,920 um but we as you said, we do mix the IC&I 221 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:19,200 into that, and that's why we're we're agreeable to pay the excess of 222 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:25,920 that. Um the other the other option would be 223 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:29,160 is is to either not collect the IC&I, um have it completely separate, and we 224 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,000 would fund all that, which at the end of the day would mean that we would have to 225 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:36,800 pass those costs along to those business owners, and the fear is then it's going 226 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:40,920 to go into the into the landfill. So, uh not a perfect system by any means. It's 227 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,600 new. There's a lot of estimates in there. 228 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Uh the icing for us is that again, we're not paying until we hit that um 229 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:53,640 that tonnage. >> Yeah, I'm just curious how that would 230 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:56,400 separate between the residential um and and the IC&I. 231 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,920 » Yeah, so So, basically, what we've done is we've we're we're not separating. 232 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,640 We're putting it all together, and then we'll we'll just pay anything extra 233 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:07,040 above above that. Yeah. So, if if it doesn't reach that, 234 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:11,959 that's great for us as well. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. 235 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:17,439 » Just to Counselor Johnson's question, we we used to receive money for electronic 236 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,600 um recycling years ago, but then with all the changes with Stewardship of 237 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:26,360 Ontario and and the program changes, we haven't received it for a few years. It 238 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:32,000 wasn't much anyway, so it it's not a significant impact, but how that program 239 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:36,520 changed, I don't know with with all the changes with all the other 240 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,520 stewardships. 241 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:44,640 » Uh so, just just one thing I want to say 242 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,520 because I I I don't know if I spurred this or Jason was working on it before, 243 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:53,040 but I went to I went to the landfill with a 244 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:56,880 truckload, bought a $20 token. There's somebody there with a 245 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:00,800 Ranger truck full of old wood in the back of his truck. 246 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:05,000 And he was giving me the gears a little bit about having to 247 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,560 pay $20 to take this old wood out of in his little truck. And then another 248 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:12,240 person had some old wood and some electronics. 249 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:16,200 And he said he bought a ticket dub token. And he said, "Yeah, well, it cost 250 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:21,080 money." He said, "I bought a token, too." So, the three of us 251 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,240 carpool or not carpool, convoyed out there. The guy that just had the wood in 252 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:29,880 the back of his truck, he was directed to the wood pile, dumped for free, 253 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:34,760 didn't cost him anything because it's wood. Uh the other guy that had some old 254 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:40,120 wood and some electronics, he dumped the wood in the wood pile, the electronics 255 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:46,320 in the bin, and he didn't have to pay anything. So, I know it does sound like 256 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:50,920 $20 for this and $20 for that, but if people that separate their material and 257 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:54,280 they they work the dump the way it should be worked, 258 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,480 they were both both came up to me and said, "You know, 259 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,280 we're sorry about that. We didn't realize it was free, so 260 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:06,160 uh yeah, garbage my my truck was garbage. I 261 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:10,840 paid the $20, but uh yeah, if you recycle, throw your steel in, throw your 262 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:15,200 wood in, your electronics in, you can take a lot of stuff to the dump and not 263 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:20,040 have to pay anything. So, that's my little story on that, my 264 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,680 one trip to the dump every year. Uh 265 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:27,720 do we want to discuss options? Do we want to continue with GFL collection and 266 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:32,480 processing of recyclable materials exceeding the annual allocation, 267 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:36,520 disposal of recycled material in the landfill, 268 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,920 or remove the current fee structure for commercial recycling services as part of 269 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,280 future update of the waste management bylaw? 270 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:46,960 Uh I would I would I would My 271 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:51,760 recommendation was we continue with doing what we're doing. 272 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:55,400 Unless anybody has any other comments. We want to encourage recycling. Uh go 273 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,880 ahead, Councillor Lines. >> Uh thank you, Mayor Ferguson. I would 274 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:04,200 agree with continuing with the GFL collection and processing status quo, 275 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:08,800 um but maybe after a few cycles, see what the actual costs are associated 276 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:12,280 with this process, and at that point, look and see if there's any sort of uh 277 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,680 review. >> Yeah. 278 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:19,960 » And maybe in that time, too, is the province will make some changes and they 279 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,040 will start recouping some of that money as well. 280 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,160 » Absolutely. >> We carry on? 281 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,360 Okay. Great. Okay, next we'll move to fire and 282 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:33,400 property. Fire dispatch agreement with Central 283 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:35,880 Ambulance Communication Centre. Jason. 284 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:41,000 » Okay. So, um yeah, as part of the the centralized um 285 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:47,880 communication system for fire dispatch, that is done out of Kenora. Uh that is 286 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:52,360 separate than the next gen 911 that is is being transitioned as well. Um this 287 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:57,880 is a long-standing agreement with uh this organization. 288 00:20:54,040 --> 00:21:01,920 Um I don't I don't believe there are other options in a sense. This is this 289 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:06,480 is the This is the company that does it for the region. Uh very well established 290 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:10,520 with our fire department and and um regional fire departments as well. So, 291 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:14,600 uh unfortunately, Chief Orban's not here today to answer any specifics. I don't 292 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,320 have I don't have any financials for you 293 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:21,320 other than I don't believe that there's any change in 294 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,240 the the cost of that, but we could get that for you as well. 295 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,960 » Any questions on that? Yes, Councillor Johnson. 296 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:35,120 » Thank you, Mayor Buergler. Brandy, you you wouldn't have a 297 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,120 guestimate of what this costs? 298 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,680 » Not offhand, but it isn't very much. It's it's not significant. 299 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,800 » Not that I don't understand where Jason's coming from. I 300 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,560 just thought Brandy would know. 301 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:55,440 » Any other questions on that? Uh hearing no questions, the 302 00:21:53,320 --> 00:22:01,920 recommendation is to continue continue on with CCAC for a 5-year term based on 303 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,920 the agreement attached. 304 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Is that the consensus of council? Okay, see heads nodding. Most heads 305 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:14,560 nodding. Okay, great. And I think we will have a 306 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,920 resolution for that. Bylaw. 307 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:28,200 Okay, next we'll go to other business. Uh Ad Hoc Bass Classic requests wave 308 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:35,240 fees report to council. Jason and the people that have declared 309 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,240 a conflict. 310 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Just to note that Councillor Johnson has also declared conflict on this. 311 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Yes. 312 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:50,840 Or or you're just leaving. >> [laughter] 313 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,640 » Okay, that is always the best way. Thank you, Councillor. 314 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,200 Okay, Jason. >> Okay, 315 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:06,120 so Uh, we are as of Monday into full swing of Bass Classic Week, the 40th 316 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:10,480 anniversary. Uh, I know events were already starting to take place uh, this 317 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:14,640 morning. Um, as always, there is a request to the town for certain uh, 318 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,680 in-kind um, uh, 319 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,480 different things that they need from from the town. Uh, 320 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:26,480 not a whole lot of change from the previous year. Um, 321 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:30,040 one important note is that the the town's event tent is not needed this 322 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,160 year. Which is which is good in the sense that 323 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,440 we don't have to set it up. I think they're they're moving the artisans and 324 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,200 and such um, under the big top. So, uh, so that's 325 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:46,800 good for us. I know that we're already delivering porta-potties and um, 326 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:51,440 and uh, yeah, that's about it. So, I think at the end of the day the and and 327 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:57,600 if um, you'll recall uh, administration was was asked to 328 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,600 bring forth a uh, a report showing the uh, 329 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:05,360 in-kind costs, actual costs, foregone revenue. Um, that was presented to 330 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:09,040 council. I believe it was June of this year, early June of this year, early 331 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,880 June. Um, so everyone's well aware of that there is a there is a cost 332 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:17,760 associated with this um, but um, council is of the mindset that that's 333 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:22,840 um, um, appropriate for for the event. Uh, so the only matter really kind of 334 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:29,680 outstanding today uh, because it is in the fees bylaw is if I or um, the 335 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:34,600 committee's request to forego the rental charges for the porta-potties um, for 336 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:39,480 the event. And and there are I think a couple porta-potties out at the landing 337 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:44,720 and then the remainder of them uh, over uh, by the by the big tent. 338 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:48,200 So, uh, that's in a nutshell, that's kind of what what the the request does. 339 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Um, right, today the the the options are are 340 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:57,240 to uh, approve the town's operational support 341 00:24:53,400 --> 00:25:01,120 at the same levels provided in 2025. Um, determine whether to waive the port 342 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:04,960 potty washroom rental fees or if there's a 343 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,960 any sort of change or anything different that that council would be looking at. 344 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 That's what we're asking for today. 345 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,000 » Councilor Councilor Knowles 346 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:21,120 » Thank you, Mayor Ferguson. I got no problem with uh 347 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:25,040 continuing on the same as 2025 and waving the fees, um 348 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,520 but maybe a request that they submit this a little bit 349 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,600 earlier than, you know, the day it starts 350 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,120 for next year. >> And and that's that's that's on me, not 351 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,880 them. So, we they were they were pretty good. Um 352 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,920 they've they've had good com- communication with us. Uh just with the 353 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:43,080 way the summer schedule fell out, we just missed the uh the other meetings, 354 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,080 so we we had to tack it on to knowing that it was the week after. 355 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,880 » More of it's ever an issue moving forward with a future council that they 356 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,280 would have an opportunity to be able to deal with anything that may come up. But 357 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,360 I have no issues with it. >> Yeah, it's granted. Granted. Appreciate 358 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,200 that. >> Councilor Lines 359 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:04,120 » I concur with Councilor Knowles. I fully support waving of the fees and um 360 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:09,720 continuing with the level of service that we provide in 2025. Um just noting 361 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,880 that we waived those fees because of the nonprofit status. 362 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,200 » Uh >> Uh 363 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,040 » I don't know about that. >> Okay. 364 00:26:15,948 --> 00:26:20,520 » [laughter] >> They they state in the request that they 365 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:24,800 have nonprofit status. We we don't we've never asked for proof of that. Uh 366 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:29,160 and and quite honestly, I'm I'm not I'm not sure of of that. I mean I mean 367 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:32,840 that's certainly at council's request, we can ask for that moving forward. 368 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,200 » think we would be asking specifically for it, but just that it's been past 369 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,760 practice that um >> It's been stated, but never 370 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,880 » applied. >> Or or asked to be proven. I mean, yeah. 371 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,680 Yeah. >> Thank you. 372 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:49,520 » it's an opportunity for the town to support the Bass Classic without putting 373 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,640 out taxpayers' money, right? >> Absolutely. 374 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,200 » By just not collecting those. Cuz if they weren't using those 375 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,520 porta potties, they'd be sitting in the public works garage. So, it's no real 376 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,000 loss of revenue. It's just 377 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,760 » But, the caveat >> It's the kind work, yeah. 378 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,920 » Yeah, the the foregone revenue, not so much. Um, there there is absolutely a 379 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,080 cost of of the work that we provide, right? That that's not free. But, you're 380 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,400 right. I mean, whether the the porta potties, if they were just sitting in in 381 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,440 the public works yard, you know, it'd be foregone revenue in that sense. But, um, 382 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,440 the other stuff is there's obviously a cost in that. 383 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,640 » Yeah. Councillor Martin. 384 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,680 » Yeah. >> Last word. 385 00:27:23,413 --> 00:27:30,200 » [clears throat] >> Me three on the on the no cost. Uh, 386 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,760 the um, I I do have a question. Do they have to provide proof of insurance for 387 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,800 this event? >> Oh, absolutely. Yes. So, they have they 388 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,360 have to get a a permit for the the erection of the 389 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,720 tent. Uh, and then I believe that they provide all that through that process. 390 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,880 » Okay. Cool. Thanks. >> Okay. 391 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,160 » Great cause. >> We'll go ahead with the current level of 392 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,760 support? >> Perfect. Thank you. 393 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,564 Mike, do you want to grab those guys? I'll just kidding. 394 00:27:53,544 --> 00:27:55,564 » [laughter] 395 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:30,120 » I So, just an update. We had you had seen the the memo was in the in the 396 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:35,600 agenda package. Uh, council has agreed to move forward with a level of service 397 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:39,600 provided in 2025 and to waive any fees pertaining to the rental of porta 398 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600 potties. 399 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:47,200 » Okay. Since we have no in camera topics, we will adjourn the meeting. Five-minute 400 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:54,560 break. We'll adjourn the meeting at 4:56 and 401 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,560 we'll resume at 5:02.