1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:14,040 All right. At 6 pm call to order this meeting of the council 2 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:24,000 to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 3 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:29,560 stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,560 for all. 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,840 Thank you. And uh we'll next move on to a roll call of the city cler. 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,280 » De Milner >> present. 7 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:41,920 » Derski >> present. 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:46,160 » Rolando >> stolen 9 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:50,960 » present. Okay. All present and accounted for a little bit of an adjustment to the 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:57,840 agenda before we approve it. We'd like to take under new business item A and uh 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:04,479 move that down to C and move B and C up one spot. We our speaker may be just a 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,479 little bit late. So, um, 13 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,799 with that, we have a motion. 14 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:25,520 » Second. >> Do we need to clarify that's amended? 15 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Nope. Okay. Okay. Motion to second. Any further discussion? 16 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:34,360 All in favor say I. >> I. 17 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,360 » I. 18 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,720 » Okay. On to item four. Citizens opportunity to address the council. U. 19 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Please walk to the front, state your name and address and the subject of your 20 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:52,280 discussion. And we ask you to limit your comments to three minutes. 21 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:04,560 You want to jump again? >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name 22 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:09,679 is Jane Sheer, longtime Benton County resident living outside of Atkins. I'm 23 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,879 here tonight to follow up on a few items related to the Morgan Valley Energy 24 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Center, a large natural gas energy plant 25 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:23,520 cited less than two miles southeast of Atkins. First off, we want to thank all 26 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:29,760 of you for the work that you've done so far on this project, opposing it and 27 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:34,480 speaking to it. We are asking for assistance with the Iowa Utility 28 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:39,920 Commission letters of objection from other Benton County cities within the 29 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:44,720 10M impact zone. My husband Rob Hirsch has met and worked with many of these 30 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:48,239 cities and the councils. So, this is where we stand on those letter letters 31 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:55,840 of objection to the Utilities Commission submitted. 32 00:02:52,239 --> 00:03:00,959 Atkins, the city of Fairfax, Benton County Board of Supervisors, Benton 33 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:05,200 County Conservation Board, and Norway is conf we're confirming 34 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:10,319 receipt by the IU. New Hall has indicated yes, they are 35 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:15,120 going to they have yet to submit. Shellsburg submitted a list of questions 36 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:18,959 to Alliant three weeks ago. We haven't heard if they got any 37 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:25,200 responses. said no. So, we're asking Mayor Cruz to 38 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:30,000 reach out to all the cities in Bent County and the impact area and just have 39 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:34,080 a conversation. Whether they have yet to submit, they've 40 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:38,400 submitted or choose not or chosen not to. It just seems like the neighborly 41 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:42,879 thing to do. We're all in this together. Everybody's going to be impacted to some 42 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:48,879 degree and it might create a sense of camaraderie and maybe some other other 43 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:54,879 ideas that people have. Next, to remind those here and online 44 00:03:52,720 --> 00:04:00,560 where they're watching live at a later time, Atkins is the closest city to the 45 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:06,879 power plant and has not been considered by Lynn County. So, we do matter, folks, 46 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:10,799 and it's time to show up. So, we have a new calendar which I'll 47 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:15,920 pass out to everybody. There's copies out here. This information is online. 48 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:21,040 So, the critical dates that are coming up besides if you feel like getting some 49 00:04:17,919 --> 00:04:25,600 of your emotions out, we are going to be having a protest in front of the Alliant 50 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:30,160 Building tomorrow downtown Cedar Rapids from noon to 1. We have plenty of signs 51 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:34,320 or you can just hang out, listen. We handing out information. So, we're going 52 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:40,880 to try to do a little bit on the offensive just get the word out. 53 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:45,759 So, a couple critical dates. Monday, September 28th, 6 o'clock, the Lynn 54 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,720 County Planning and Zoning Meeting for the Morgan Valley Energy Center. This is 55 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:53,840 the only they're going to talk about there. They're having a special planning 56 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:58,160 and zoning meeting at Hotel Kirkwood. And this is a public comment time, but 57 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:02,400 prior to that, you can email in public comment. So, you can call down whatever 58 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,600 you can do, get the word out. >> J, I get that right. So that planning 59 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,120 zoning commission meeting is at the hotel Kirkwood. 60 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:14,160 » Yes, they are going to have their regular one on Monday the 21st, their 61 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:18,560 monthly meeting, but Morgan Valley Energy Center will not be on the agenda. 62 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,639 They're having a special meeting a week later. 63 00:05:20,479 --> 00:05:28,479 And then the other item that will come up after that, Tuesday, October 20th, I 64 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:33,360 know this is a ways out, 6 pm again at Hotel Kirkwood. and that is the board of 65 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:38,800 super Lynn County Board of Supervisors public hearing and the first reading. So 66 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:45,039 where we are right now is Glen County planning and zoning have are looking 67 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:50,000 over their plan if they're going to recommend to the supervisors to go ahead 68 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:55,919 and site it or not. So they're kind of going through their technical review and 69 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,960 that's part of the um the 28th where they hear from people. I don't know if 70 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:04,800 they'll make their decision at that time. they'll be discussing it, but then 71 00:06:01,919 --> 00:06:08,479 the idea is on the 20th, the board of supervisors will be making a decision or 72 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,560 the first reading and hearing from people and then taking in consideration 73 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:18,000 what the planning and zoning committee has said. So, those are super critical. 74 00:06:15,039 --> 00:06:22,800 There's some other stuff going on um besides that. So, I'll pass these out to 75 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:29,759 everybody and then I'll put more back here. And then along with that, I just 76 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:35,120 want to remind people that Even if you've signed a petition, 77 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:39,199 make sure you file an objection. Either you go online and these sheets are out 78 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:42,479 there, too. You can do it yourself and if you get on the docket, you can see 79 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:46,560 what other people have done. And it's just not you. It's family, too. Kids are 80 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:50,560 doing it. They're concerned about playing outside. They're concerned about 81 00:06:48,479 --> 00:06:54,080 their pets and their friends, all that kind of stuff. You can also submit 82 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:58,000 multiple times. We also have these postcards 83 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:02,479 there. Again, there's some out there. So, whatever we can do, but we gota, you 84 00:07:00,479 --> 00:07:06,800 know, contact representatives, talk to Tom Ghold. 85 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:11,840 Reach out. You know, there's a lot of information online to do those things. 86 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,960 So, it's just not our fight. It's just not save Morgan Valley's fight. It's 87 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:20,319 everybody because it's going to affect everybody's quality of life. So, thanks 88 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:25,319 for hearing me out and let's do it together. 89 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,319 » Thank you, J. Thank you. 90 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:36,160 » All right, moving on to new business. Again, we have moved item A uh down two 91 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:39,840 spots and we're going to start with item B, 92 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:44,240 proposal from Hawkeye communication for outdoor video camera system for the 93 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:49,280 wastewater plant, sewer lift station, and water treatment plant. 94 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:53,199 Scott will uh tell us all about that. >> Yeah, I think Mayor Dave's going to jump 95 00:07:50,800 --> 00:08:01,360 in here. You got in your packet a proposal from Hawkeye uh communications 96 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:04,800 for installation of the security systems uh that we have like for example a fire 97 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:09,199 station here at city hall with cameras and so forth. Uh the proposal would 98 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:14,080 include the wastewater plant. So there' be two cameras installed at the 99 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:19,599 wastewater plant. Uh also one at our lift station uh the sewer lift station 100 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:26,039 and then also two at the water treatment plant. So the What we got from Hawkeye 101 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,039 was for $11,81420. 102 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:34,640 Uh that's uh on a cloud-based system. So storage is pretty much unlimited on that 103 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:38,880 one. David was able to procure one more quote uh for your consideration. We laid 104 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:44,880 that out. We got that today. Laid that out here tonight from Atkins Telephone 105 00:08:41,839 --> 00:08:49,240 Company here in town. and it is in a total amount of $8,344.70 106 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:59,680 or the pretty much the exact same type of um systems here. This one does not uh 107 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:05,120 store it data back to the cloud. So it does provide a hard drive with one 108 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,880 terabyte on each of those hard drives that we would have. So it wouldn't have 109 00:09:06,959 --> 00:09:13,760 quite the capacity that we would have with the Hawkeye system. So might be 110 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:20,320 some potentially additional cost associated with a noncloud based system 111 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:27,760 there. So David, I know you want to have anything further on that. 112 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:34,880 » Yeah, one uh Hawkeye is you're also going to be paying for an annual 113 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:39,839 subscription for the cloud base. Um ACT does not. So, it's just one's a little 114 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:45,600 cheaper, but one's going to have hardware at each place and one's will 115 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:51,279 will not will be on the cloud. The cloud's going to have unlimited storage 116 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:56,160 and the hardware will have fill up in time and I don't know how they if they 117 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:59,320 replace it or or get rid of it and start it over. 118 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:09,519 » In terms of the location, David, so the placement of the cameras at the 119 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:14,480 wastewater plant. Generally, what areas would those pick up? 120 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:20,240 » Uh, at the wastewater plant, it'll if we put it on a corner, it'll pick up some 121 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:24,079 of the uh the system on on the back side. So, in case uh one of us is 122 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,560 walking out there by ourselves, you know, that we can somebody can see it on 123 00:10:26,079 --> 00:10:32,640 camera. Um, it'll and then the other one will pick up the gate coming in. So, if 124 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,000 anybody comes through the gate, comes in, it'll pick up somebody coming in 125 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,760 through the gate. lift station, just one shining at the 126 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:45,120 gate. So, whoever comes through the gate, it'll it'll pick that up. And over 127 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:48,399 here at the water plant. Um there's going to be there's one that's going to 128 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:53,519 be showing on the back doors on the back side. Uh one on the corner that's going 129 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:57,360 to pick up the restrooms and and the building over there in case there's 130 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:03,920 anything happens. And then one in the corner showing the front door um and the 131 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:09,720 garage door going in the front. And we have had things happen in terms 132 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,720 of some vandalis. 133 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:19,440 » Uh so how we just got this from ATC here this afternoon. 134 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:24,760 » Y >> how does the equipment compare? I don't 135 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:38,399 » we goose it on AI just to see how long the data would stay on one terabyte 136 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:43,519 drive, 24-hour continuous videoing at 1080 uh for quality. 137 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:50,480 It's four to six days and it starts overwriting the system. Um I don't know 138 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:57,279 if that's enough for us, especially out at the lagoon area. U we'd be able to 139 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,519 see if there was some vandalism or an act or something probably the next day. 140 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:08,880 We could probably But I don't know about the far sight. 141 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:16,560 » So what we have here we have fire station uh were on cloud there when they 142 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:20,800 bid the work fire station onto that contract and have to do these other 143 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:24,959 locations but we pretty much have unlimited 144 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:31,639 storage. Does >> Jeremy do you know anything about these 145 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:31,639 one terabyte drives for storage? 146 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Yeah. >> Do you know how long or when we'd be 147 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,760 looking at replacing something like that? 148 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:48,440 » So, it's really going to depend on the quality of the cameras and how high 149 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:55,360 the transfer rate is. So, it's just going to come down to that. But I would 150 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,360 say it's probably going to be a rolling probably. 151 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:08,000 So, have you have you seen with the quote that you had there? You've seen 152 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:11,760 demonstrations of the quality video and >> I've seen some of the some of the video. 153 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,959 They're both I think they're both equally 154 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:17,680 you know the clarity is pretty good with both of them. 155 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:18,399 » Okay. So, you have seen some of ATC stuff? 156 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:22,959 » Yes. >> Y Okay. 157 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:28,560 » Um ATC takes takes care of uh Castle Motors. That's one of the places they 158 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:34,000 were talking about. They and but I I reached out to when Hawkeye come in. I 159 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:38,240 reached out to Haywa and talked to them the parks there. They they like all 160 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:44,079 their cameras that they have through Hawkeye. Hawkeye has Cedar Falls, 161 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Urbana, Abernet, so they're familiar with parks and the 162 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:57,639 ATC's here in town. And you know, local's always 163 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:57,639 better if you can get them. 164 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:16,120 I think that's kind of a tough spot to get to this great walking into a 165 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,120 meeting. 166 00:14:22,959 --> 00:14:27,920 We're looking at about a $3,200 difference. 167 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Does that include the warranty packages on these both of these or not? 168 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:38,040 » I do not. 169 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:45,040 » They got sales tax piped in here. >> Yeah, I 170 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:50,360 they're about >> know that's another 300 bucks. 171 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:50,360 » Yeah, they're 8300. 172 00:14:52,240 --> 00:15:01,440 I guess the only question I have is the drive um versus the cloud. The cloud is 173 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:06,560 always going to be better. Um if it's a 1080 174 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:11,880 quality, which is the high end, um that's a wash between the systems. 175 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Certainly supporting local business 176 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,320 in particular. 177 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:40,800 » I'm kind of on the hard drive versus cloud. 178 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:44,279 » My instinct is I actually like having control of the video. 179 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:51,839 We have that hard drive on site, right? So it can't 180 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:59,720 It's just it's physically ours. Um but the storage concerns and then the 181 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,720 fact that it would be hard on fail. 182 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:21,199 So it's just I'm kind of torn both ways really. I don't think there's a little 183 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:26,639 bit of cost difference between the two. I would have to dig in to 184 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:31,519 » I think we need to talk in looking at ATC's 185 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:37,199 bid. Basically, it looks like they own the equipment. We 186 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:42,000 don't based on we're paying licensing fees on Hawkeye. 187 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,720 Is that safe to assume that? >> No. 188 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Hawkeye, you're paying licensing fees for the cloud, 189 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,759 » right? >> And we're not on the cloud with 190 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:57,680 » But I'm just saying the equipment that's listed for ATC for cost 191 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,720 doesn't appear. I don't know. I'm just asking the question. 192 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:06,400 » The other question I have is accessibility. Um with the cloud-based, 193 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:10,720 you should be able to anyone with uh authorization to access it should be 194 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:13,919 access. And I don't know about the hard drive. um system if that's part of that. 195 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,360 I don't know >> if you can access it also. 196 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:22,640 » You can access it live too. >> He had it on his he had uh on his phone 197 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:26,640 multiple that he was allowed to have access to. 198 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:34,720 » You said the equipment was pretty comparable to both companies 199 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:41,600 » came each have their own their own camera their own one has hardware one 200 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:45,600 does not. Right. So the hard wire they can cut. 201 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,240 » It's all wireless >> to the camera or is it wireless? 202 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:56,840 » Wireless. >> No, they'll have cat five or cat 6. 203 00:17:51,919 --> 00:17:56,840 » Yeah. Back into the building like fiber. 204 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,320 So it's not 205 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:12,320 » they're saying um >> yeah it's just one versus the other. 206 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:17,320 » Right. >> There's no difference. 207 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,320 » There's not 208 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,280 » at the end of the day like we're shooting apples to apples here. 209 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:27,960 » Okay. So, it's just coming down to what do we want to kind of 210 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:35,799 if we really wanted to do it in house, but I don't know how much you want to do 211 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,799 that 212 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,960 person. 213 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:50,720 » In the beginning, but your guys is all think about your home security. No 214 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,120 different from 215 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:13,280 I've I've installed a lot of these cameras. I guess I just did them too 216 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:17,600 cheap. But the labor's quite high if you ask me. 217 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,840 » Yeah. >> For both 218 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:31,120 Scott, can I interject a little bit? >> Oh, I'm sorry, Bruce. Can I comment just 219 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:35,840 a minute? >> Bruce, 220 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,240 » Brian, I'm sorry. >> Um, I do have I can talk to you 221 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:44,559 afterwards about I do have some experience from Arnold 222 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:49,520 » with everything we dealt with out there. I would say one thing that comes to mind 223 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:56,640 is knowing your hot and cold ratings, especially the cold. I understand money 224 00:19:52,880 --> 00:20:01,760 is limited. You'll never afford what you normal, 225 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:08,160 but there are issues when you get into cold weather, things freeze, frost over, 226 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:15,600 you won't see anything even though, you know, until the sun warms it up. 227 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:15,600 So, I I can interject more 228 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:26,160 If it's food for thought. >> Yeah. 229 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,360 » Well, technology has changed quite a bit too. So, there is 230 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:37,640 we say it's 260 on those 360. 231 00:20:41,919 --> 00:20:46,039 I I don't think we know that. 232 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:51,640 » Okay, we'll call it a bird camera. 233 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:05,520 » Either way, it's just a bird's eye camera. So, those were there. That kind 234 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,760 of causes the element of them not getting frozen over because it has like 235 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:15,039 a triple core layer on the plastic and the glass. So it shouldn't freeze ever 236 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,440 unless we have like 40 temperatures consistently. 237 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,640 » That's the only time you're going to run into that. 238 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,799 » Okay. >> Is that 239 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:30,360 » is that the H6L camera you're talking about? 240 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,360 » Yes. 241 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:38,559 » Yep. That would be that one there. >> That's 242 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:43,120 an interesting >> perspective. 243 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:48,880 Yeah, the Hawkeye the Hawkeye gear seems to be true commercial. 244 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:52,520 » I'm I'm on their website now looking at what they 245 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,240 » I mean it's what you're going to see in schools you know commercial buildings 246 00:22:07,679 --> 00:22:11,600 I mean I appreciate both I think 247 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:20,080 whatever direction the staff feels most comfortable having to deal with. 248 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:23,799 It's kind of where I was >> either either way 249 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:33,280 I to me it probably be the clock system just less stuff potentially go wrong 250 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:39,400 you know all that kind of stuff >> it's a little more 251 00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:39,400 you're paying for it too 252 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,760 » because 253 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,720 from your references >> yeah I think they're both they're both 254 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,159 If there was an issue, they'd both three right on top of it. 255 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,360 » Okay. >> So, 256 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:57,280 » yeah. To me, it just comes down to one, you know, cloud and the other the other 257 00:22:56,159 --> 00:23:01,679 one's a little more and the other one's a little less. 258 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:07,120 » I I think we still got some questions to work through these. Can we table it at 259 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:12,320 least to get the uh service contract andor warranty information and maybe ask 260 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,039 a couple more questions of both vendors >> possibly. Yeah. 261 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:21,679 » And I think we can make a better decision. I'm a I think the cloud-based 262 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:26,320 one's a little bit better, but um I think we deserve that part of it too, 263 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,320 you know, whether it's the cold or whatever. I think those are honest 264 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,919 questions to ask. >> And the service contract is going to be, 265 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,840 you know, >> yeah, there's nothing for service 266 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,240 contract >> first and foremost with a security 267 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:44,480 system or video system. Speaking from a person that's bought thousands of them 268 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,320 for school buses, you need reliability first and foremost. It doesn't do you 269 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:52,159 any good if it doesn't work >> if anything. 270 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:57,120 » Yeah. So, we need to make sure it's reliable and and uh and go from there. 271 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:01,760 So, yeah, I would agree with you, Bob. I would if I was in a voting position, I 272 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:06,320 would want to ask some questions. >> Motion to table it until we can get some 273 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,600 further info and we can bring it up the next meeting 274 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:14,159 and vote on it. >> Motion to table. 275 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:20,120 » Second, Derski. Any 276 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:20,120 further disc? 277 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:30,039 » Yeah, it looks like it's on a gun turret that spins off the website. I was just 278 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,039 out there looking at it, but 279 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,360 any further discussion? Again, I mean, we're not talking about, 280 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:42,320 you know, huge dollars here, but I think we we do owe it to ourselves to to make 281 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:46,080 sure we're doing the right things. So, >> all right. All those in favor say I. 282 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:50,480 » I. >> I. 283 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:55,440 » All oppose say nay. Okay. 284 00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:00,400 Tabled. With that we'll move on to item C which 285 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:06,799 is uh a review of the engineering services agreement for the water 286 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:09,440 distribution system improvement project by Mr. Flory. 287 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:15,360 » Yeah. Thank you mayor. This is something kind of came out of those recent water 288 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:23,120 bane break episodes we had up on on First Street. And so if you recall from 289 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:28,080 our budget, we had allocated $125,000 toward some street patching. And that 290 00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:32,480 was part of a project actually was engineered prior to me coming here. Uh 291 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:36,000 and since we'd already got the plans paid for, we thought, okay, well, we'll 292 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:41,760 go ahead and pencil that in as a project for fiscal year 27. Uhhuh. In terms of 293 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:46,559 need, uh I think what I would like to ask for the council's blessing on is 294 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:50,960 instead of spending that 125,000 from the general fund on those street 295 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:55,679 patching projects that we would move that 125,000 296 00:25:53,120 --> 00:26:00,480 water distribution system improvements in particular, this project that I am 297 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:05,279 presenting here tonight. So then that would be $125,000. 298 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:09,279 We've got some other uh ideas on other sources of funds, but but I did want to 299 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:13,360 mention that one first. So, that's really the kind of the genesis of where 300 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,720 this project is coming from. And we'll go through the maps here in a little 301 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:21,360 bit, but but again, back to those two water main breaks. Again, they're in the 302 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:25,360 same spot. So, not necessarily, you know, that they weren't related, but you 303 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:30,320 know, we did have those two right there on first in that location. So, uh, 304 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:36,000 you've got a copy of a proposal from Snyder Associates. It just cut forward 305 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:40,480 to exhibit A, which is really the, uh, non boilerplate language, if you will. 306 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:45,120 So, it kind of outlines what the project is. So, we'll just kind of review that. 307 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Uh again, we'd be looking at starting on First Street from Cardinal Avenue uh 308 00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:56,480 through the east intersection of 4th Avenue, replacing appro approximately 309 00:26:52,880 --> 00:27:03,520 640 ft of 4 in water man with 8 in main. Uh did confirm with Jared that some of 310 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:08,960 that we have so uh we have about 175 to 200 lineal feet of 8 in already that was 311 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:14,640 extended from Cardinal. So basically shave about 175 to 200 ft off of that 312 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:19,279 that already has and we'll look at that in the map here in a minute. Uh but 4th 313 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:24,720 Avenue then from railroad to first street about 520 ft of 4inch main 314 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:31,760 replace that with 8 inch main. Fourth Avenue from 1 to 2 replacing 365t 315 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:37,760 of 4 inch main with 8 inch main. Um and then second street and fifth avenue from 316 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:42,480 fourth to first street it's about 800 ft that that would be an alternate and then 317 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:48,320 fourth avenue from third street to park ridge about another 540 ft uh of 8 in 318 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:52,640 main and there is no 8 in main there we'll look at that uh in a moment here 319 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:58,480 but uh generally the the improvements include replacing the aging water man as 320 00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:02,320 noted above uh add new water man as described above to provide additional 321 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:06,640 loop move into the system to provide additional increased fire flows. We'll 322 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:11,120 look at those fire flows in a minute. So, we'll be able to improve those. Uh 323 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:16,000 replace water service connections to the main. We'll look at a map here in a 324 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:20,240 little bit. We're under that DNR mandate to understand what all of the service 325 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:24,640 laterals that connect from the house to the main are. So, in the bulk of the 326 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:29,679 community, we know what those are and they're either copper or plastic. Uh but 327 00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:35,520 this is an area that would involve about 24 properties and they are in our 328 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:40,480 unknown category. So we don't have data on what those service lines are now 329 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:45,840 based on the the age of the homes themselves. Most of these are in the 50s 330 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:51,840 60s and and maybe a little newer than that. So highly unlikely that there's 331 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:55,919 any lead probably unlikely even some galvanized but there probably is going 332 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,760 to be some galvaniz but not probably a lot in that service line so could be 333 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:06,080 copper there but again this would give us an opportunity to identify what those 334 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:12,799 service lines are knock those 24 or so off of our DNR inventory that we have to 335 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:18,480 have completed uh in October of 27. um replace some aging aging isolation 336 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,880 valves along each stretch of the water man. We're grossly deficient in terms of 337 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,799 the number of valves that we have. So that's why sometimes we get into 338 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,080 situations where we have to isolate a larger area of the community that we 339 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:33,919 would like to because we don't have enough valves and don't have enough 340 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,919 working valves. Replace aging fire hydrants along each stretch of the water 341 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,760 man. Additional hydrants would be added to meet current design standards. So you 342 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:47,200 know we definitely don't meet any of those regulations in terms of the fire 343 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:53,679 hydrants. Uh and then again just taking out the uin 344 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:58,240 line. So then in terms of uh pavement patching and that kind of work what we 345 00:29:55,679 --> 00:30:03,200 would do there is probably allow those trenches to settle over the course of 346 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:08,000 the winter and then probably sometime uh early summer 347 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:13,200 you know the excavated areas. So uh this would be a uh special assessment 348 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:18,240 project. So the work from Snyder would include all necessary uh procedures to 349 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:23,520 involve the uh special assessment process and I can talk about that one 350 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:27,760 later. Um preliminary schedule in terms of uh how we see this thing playing out 351 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:33,760 would be council would uh approve the contract tonight. Preliminary plans into 352 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:38,000 the DNR in October. uh final plans in December, targeting a biding in 353 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:43,760 February, and then hopefully construction spring summer of 27. As we 354 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:50,120 know, no state or federal funds are utilized for this project. All would be 355 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:50,120 local local funds. 356 00:30:53,760 --> 00:31:02,520 The total for the workers have laid out 357 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:13,039 Thereage three. >> There we go. Uh 60,500 358 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:17,520 for that. And then in terms of the maps, just kind 359 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:22,080 of want to look at those with you a little bit. I included those in your 360 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:27,440 packet. So first map in your packet, uh you can see the area. We'll start over 361 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:31,520 there at Cardinal on first and look at heading east. So, what I talked about 362 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:36,640 that 8 inch line that's in in there already, it's already into Cardinal past 363 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:41,919 that uh twin culverts that are in there, the drainage culverts there. So, it's on 364 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:46,799 the other side of those. So, that 8 inch line is uh east from Cardinal probably 365 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:52,159 close to 200 feet there. So, we would pick up that 8 inch line, run it as I've 366 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:57,519 identified there in the yellow uh to the east on first to that hydrant area over 367 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:02,559 there, then north and tie into that 8 in. So, railroad in that area has an 8 368 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:07,919 inch line. So, we would tie into that 8 inch line on railroad, tie into that 8 369 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:14,399 inch line on Cardinal, and then bring the 8 in line down uh fourth and tie 370 00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:19,200 into an 8 inch line that's kind of out in front of the school there uh up by 371 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:24,399 Second Street there. So, that would be the base project. The alternates would 372 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:29,360 be then to add the water line from Parkridge. Uh and that is in a tiff 373 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:33,919 district actually. Uh the fourth avenue section there is alternate one. So that 374 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:38,720 would be a potential opportunity for uh some funding there. But that would be 375 00:32:36,159 --> 00:32:45,519 running that water man from Park Ridge and tying into that 8 in. So that would 376 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:51,200 be just absolutely phenomenal improvement for that school and that 377 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:55,679 area in terms of the fire flows and uh water quality and those kinds of things. 378 00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:00,559 Uh the alternate two is again more or less because we're right in that area uh 379 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:05,600 to pick up the rest of those that that's got some pretty bad infrastructure there 380 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:08,720 as well. >> Is that where the fire hydrant is? 381 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:12,640 » Yep. >> That's so bad. Yeah. 382 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:17,360 » Yeah. Uh the next page is just kind of a repeat, but it shows again what the 383 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:22,640 water lines are in terms of their existing capacity and just lays out the 384 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,880 alternates and the base. The next sheet is the one that I mentioned earlier that 385 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:32,640 we're working on for our uh lead and copper with the DNR. And you can see the 386 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:38,320 areas that we have no known lead or known lead uh known galvanized known 387 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:43,760 copper. So in this particular area, most all of those are uh colored red. So we 388 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,799 mean that means we don't know what those service lines are. So we would learn 389 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:54,000 that as part of this project. Part of an assessment process would be uh to assess 390 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:59,279 those new water service lines to the individual properties if they need 391 00:33:55,919 --> 00:34:04,480 upgraded uh to upgrade those. Uh the next sheet is more recent analysis that 392 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:10,079 we had Snyder do and take a look at when they were looking potential addition for 393 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:15,440 uh Stone Ridge phase five over there just to show again what the existing 394 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:21,040 maximum daily pressures are. Uh with the tower level level at 26 feet, that is 395 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:25,200 generally the lowest lowest operating level that we have the tower at during 396 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,599 the day. Uh typically it's running at about 31 and a half 32 feet. Uh so you 397 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:33,520 can see kind of get a feel for what those pressures are. I think you've 398 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:38,159 heard me say ironically again in this particular area where we had that water 399 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:46,159 main break uh that area actually has the highest PSI uh for our community uh you 400 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:50,560 know north of 55. Uh the next sheet shows again what those pressure contours 401 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,480 look like with the water tower full which would be 33 feet. Uh so you can 402 00:34:52,879 --> 00:35:00,000 kind of again get an idea what everybody's water pressure looks like in 403 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:04,400 that level. Uh the next one's probably more interesting is the fire flow 404 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:09,119 availability. Uh so you can see in the area that we're uh looking at for 405 00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:14,880 portion of these improvements, we're at 750 gallons per minute. So that is that 406 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:19,200 is definitely uh below what the DNR would recommend. That's a thousand is 407 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:24,880 what's recommended there. So so we would definitely uh improve that substantially 408 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,680 by looping it and connecting it to those two 8 inch mains. Another area that 409 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:35,760 we'll have to be addressing here at some point is over there on uh A Avenue. You 410 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:39,520 see those are very low U fires over there. 411 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:44,960 Uh the next sheet I just kind of calculated out some some distances there 412 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,960 in terms of what front uh lineal footage uh we'd be looking at for the project. 413 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:56,560 So we kind of went over over some of those earlier. So, uh, I think, uh, you 414 00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:01,119 know, we've had some, uh, DNR surveys that have been done over the years. 415 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:06,560 They've not specifically addressed issues related to replacement of 416 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:12,640 undersized main. So, these 4in lines, 6 in lines where we've got hydrants on 6 417 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:16,480 in line, uh, that is not in compliance with today's standards. Obviously, can't 418 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:21,040 be anything on less than an 8 inch line. We've got number of hydrants on on 6 in 419 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:27,680 lines but this would definitely be an area when we look at the study that 420 00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:33,119 Snider had done in 2019 2020 and it identified really uh a couple of the 421 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:38,000 more problematic areas in the community. I think they identify about three to 422 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:43,599 four and this knocks out two of them. So in terms of the school being under 423 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:49,119 » on an 8 inch line, what would the pressure be required? Still 40 424 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,520 » uh for the we'd be north of that >> 55. 425 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:55,920 » Yeah, I think we'll be >> that's 426 00:36:53,359 --> 00:37:02,400 back back to his four areas that they identified in that study in December 427 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:09,119 27th, 2019. And this was considering only the 4-in line neighborhoods was uh 428 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:17,280 uh the obviously the lumber yard area. Uh specifically they called out uh the 429 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:25,839 4th Avenue region uh by the school and third street and uh and the other two 430 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:28,960 were uh like High Point Drive. They they talked about the lows that'll be 431 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:34,000 available up there as well. They don't call out a because they focused on the 4 432 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:40,240 inch there, not the 6 inch on a Avenue. That's noticeably bad. So, 433 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,960 » so I really like the opportunity even at the base package. So, again, as I 434 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:50,480 mentioned, if we bid this out, we'd have a base package, which would be probably 435 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:55,440 somewhere around that 1,400 lineal feet of 4 inch line, replacing that with 8 436 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:59,200 inch line. Then we'd have the alternate one. Can't remember the distance on 437 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:06,000 that. Might be like about 500 ft or so going bridge up to third. Uh that would 438 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:09,920 be I think again a high priority for for me as I look at this project because 439 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:14,880 then you'd be tying in with that 8 in up on railroad all the way down to an 8 in 440 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:21,440 on car bridge all the way over into an 8 in on Cardinal and then in issues where 441 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:26,079 properties that lie east of this became problematic in terms of a break. We'd 442 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:30,480 have new valves all through this area. you wouldn't get into a situation where 443 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:36,079 you have to shut a large area off because one area was affected. So, so I 444 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:41,920 really like the opportunity here to to reallocate some funding that I think in 445 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,839 light of what we know know with the recent breaks there to kind of 446 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:50,960 repprioritize that funding towards what I think is a higher need than doing some 447 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:55,839 some street patching. And I think again in terms of uh the the future funding 448 00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:59,680 opportunities, uh we've got that uh Trevor, I know you and I talked about 449 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:05,920 this a lot, that one issue, that one final year on that note is rolling off. 450 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:10,960 That's about 107,000. Uh so we can kind of reshuffle some things like to try to 451 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:18,079 keep that 107,000 on and then add that to the 125 uh that 452 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,480 we could reallocate. Then I think uh we've also got some opportunities to do 453 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:27,440 some interf loan agreements as far as like the tip on that alternate one since 454 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:31,920 that's in a in a tip district. So uh yeah, I think it lays out pretty well. 455 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,720 Bob and I have talked quite a bit shall at some point I really want to get going 456 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:43,119 on the franchise fees for our utilities uh gas and electric. This would be a 457 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:46,480 great use for that 1% franchise fee. Or if you want to consider even a little 458 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,040 more than that, like a lot of communities have, you could add that on 459 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:54,760 and then fund these improvements or something like that too. 460 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:05,520 In terms of special assessments, uh this is something that many communities do uh 461 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:09,760 in particular where uh there are extraordinary benefits to particular 462 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:15,040 property. So again, in this particular project, we're talking probably about 24 463 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:20,000 homes affected here. Uh you know, there about close to 800 homes uh in the 464 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:24,720 community uh in that neighborhood. So the theory of the special assessment is 465 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:30,160 that those who are receiving the highest benefit of these improvements should 466 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:34,240 contribute to those to the cost of those improvements. Uh what I would propose in 467 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:38,000 this and we're we're nowhere near there, but something like this to me would be 468 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:43,200 obviously I think it's a bit of a no-brainer that you would assess for uh 469 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:50,160 replacement of inferior service lines that only serve those homes. Uh and then 470 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:55,760 I would suggest a 5050 uh on the pipe replacement. So, we're upgrading the 4 471 00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:03,280 in main, this 4in cast iron pipe, I would suggest a 5050 partnership on 472 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:07,680 part of the assessment process. >> So, David, if there was a valve there at 473 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:12,720 fourth and first when we had that break in that first outage, we had to shut off 474 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,119 74 homes. How many homes would have been affected if a valve would have been 475 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,280 there? >> What was it? 75 or so. What? Well, 476 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:27,119 whatever just a block would be it should have been every 300 350 should be a 477 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:31,119 valve. So between each block essentially. So what whatever's in a 478 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,560 block five houses. >> Yeah. 479 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:38,720 » Of 10 for if you count both sides. >> Right. Yeah. Okay. So that's what jumped 480 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:43,200 out at me is because when I was down there he pointed out where the 8 inch 481 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:49,200 man was and it is in it is on the the east side of the cover. Um, so I think 482 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:54,880 you said about 300 to 320 feet to First Street, but the next valve is up over 483 00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:00,240 the hill another three or 400 feet. >> So you're 7 800 feet to get to about to 484 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:05,359 shut that down. And that's why it affects so many homes. So 485 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:09,760 » um, you know, it's kind of kind of comes simultaneously with our 486 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:13,839 » with our other project uh, boosting pressure. I think actually we were 487 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:20,800 coming to talk about that at the last meeting when we found out that that 488 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:26,160 water mane broke again. Um so um kind of funny how things work that way, but uh 489 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:31,200 uh you know at the very least having having that you know that that chunk 490 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:35,920 done in a valve there where you know and the connection to to the 8 inch on 491 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,920 railroad and cardinal makes a lot of sense. 492 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:45,599 most importantly increases the fire flow for that whole district uh to include 493 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,720 the school who will be in on the 5050 as well. 494 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,599 » Yeah. >> Yeah. It's a it's a sorely needed area. 495 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:58,560 » It was identified eight years ago and >> we have a chance to do it now based on a 496 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,119 break that we never really really got a chance to really take a close look at 497 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,560 the maps >> until the second break happened. 498 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:09,920 And uh I think it's a win-win uh for the city 499 00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:16,560 » going forward that that area would not qualify for CDBG 500 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:20,640 » and even if they did it would take >> uh quite a long time to get it done. 501 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:25,599 » Yeah. >> And you're competing with that. There's 502 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:29,760 absolutely no guarantee that 24 homes would be a small project to compete 503 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:34,880 with. probably wouldn't get much and I don't know that you're going to meet the 504 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:40,839 low income requirement in that area. Uh so yeah, the grant opportunities are 505 00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,839 » human 506 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,720 » and St. Steven's church isn't that far away. 507 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,319 » Correct. >> Right now we're just looking at 508 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:56,000 » uh just design. >> Yep. Yep. So uh but yeah so looking at 509 00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:00,560 design uh but his proposal would include uh you know all those services for 510 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:05,599 special assessment >> which would have to be determined after 511 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,839 we get designed and we try to fit this. >> Yeah. Yeah. 512 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:22,160 » Yeah. It's it's something that's very done. 513 00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:29,200 Atkins uh but it's done very very very >> well 514 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:34,319 I was first home in Kansas was a new development with special tax assessments 515 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:39,839 and that's where I have I at least you're moving eyes wide open 516 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:44,160 this is what it is to run the water run the roads run this development that 517 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:51,319 people buy into that understand it's focusing existing homes now facing 518 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,319 assessment, I guess. 519 00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,800 » And there'd be public hearings, right, SC? 520 00:44:55,839 --> 00:45:00,400 » Oh, yeah. >> There's just a lot of steps to fill 521 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,280 before it even would be approved. >> Yeah, 522 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,560 » that's good. Where they'd be able to come forward, 523 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:11,119 » but it's really in that. So, just to give you a little historical benefit, 524 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:16,880 there's many projects that we did like the special assessment. Nobody really 525 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:21,280 wants to be assessed. Uh, but when it's that has a real meaningful gain to the 526 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,400 property. We'd have some projects where some people would come up to the podium 527 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,480 and say, "Well, I really don't want to pay for it, but it's badly needed." And 528 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:34,640 may have to say, "Well, so are you a for or against?" Well, 529 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,560 » you know, but uh but I sure like to see the furniture. Just didn't want to pay 530 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:42,800 for it. >> Nobody likes 531 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:45,680 » Well, what the actual increment is, right? My my experience was it was 532 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:51,440 substantial. >> Yeah. to pay it off over 10 years. So, 533 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:57,520 so yeah, we've had some we had some 15 20,000 but service line might be, you 534 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:02,880 know, maybe for service line, 535 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,319 you know, paid off over 10 years with your taxes. So, I don't think these are 536 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,960 anything that's going to put anybody out. 537 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:16,240 » And there's also the preliminary assessment schedule. So, 538 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:20,000 » that gets out to the public in advance as a you know it's kind of an estimated 539 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,920 cost. >> Yeah. It's not 540 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:26,880 » so it's and it's a it's a process to it. So 541 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:31,119 » so they'll know exactly could be this is the amount it's usually conservative 542 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,599 amount. But yeah, when you're looking at fire 543 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:41,119 flow improvements, water quality, you're not drinking out of a 75 main any 544 00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:48,280 longer. You're not drinking out of a old potentially older service line that runs 545 00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:48,280 to your house. Those are all very 546 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:58,000 » in this area. >> And doesn't it help with insurance? 547 00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,880 » It should definitely. Yes. >> It'll improve your ISO rating for your 548 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,280 home. >> Yeah. 549 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:08,319 » Yeah. Because right now they're under that. So So at some point, you know, 550 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:13,200 there's got to be like a meeting sort of a halfway. Everybody wants, you know, 551 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,680 government to pay for everything. There just isn't 552 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,720 for all that >> and that's sign probably why things 553 00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:24,720 advanced too far. Uh but I'm excited about the opportunity to not only 554 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,760 address you things that were listed in the DNR sanitary report about the the 555 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:34,800 low water pressure but but here we are uh you know very shortly into this this 556 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:41,280 term here. Uh and here's an opportunity that we're kind of presenting to to take 557 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:48,880 a real progressive role in taking out 1500 ft maybe more of some of the worst 558 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:52,560 water man in town. I think we do. >> How long does the DNR give you to get in 559 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,280 compliance? >> Oh, there's there's not. 560 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,200 » Okay. >> There's no mandate, you know, and and 561 00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:04,079 we've had people say, "Oh, you're under a mandate to replace that." No. 562 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:08,880 And every every survey and I got one right here, but uh every survey there is 563 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,760 no mention of the 4 in maintenance replacement. 564 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:16,640 » Now businesses they give you a a date. >> Yeah. No, they do mention the pressure. 565 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,960 » Not like not like the the the >> not like the wash, 566 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,760 » right? >> The threeear inspections. That's 567 00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:28,079 some of those items are different. >> Why 568 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:32,880 not? uh just because they had the background. Uh could could have RFP it 569 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:38,640 out. Uh but they've got pretty good background with the city. Uh seemed like 570 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:43,119 a pretty easy transition. I do think the the prices I don't think you're going to 571 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,400 see a big sale. Okay. >> Somewhere else on that. 572 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,400 » Well, that would be my question because I think council members would get some 573 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:55,680 questions and I and I'm sure I will too. is I mean is there any benefit to doing 574 00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:00,720 to mo moving forward with this now or benefit to waiting till we see what what 575 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,640 uh uh >> and Kim 576 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:06,240 » Vanster and Kim comes back with an overall proposal? I I don't know but 577 00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:08,480 those are questions those are questions we'll get and we we want to make sure we 578 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,760 understand. >> Yeah. No, there definitely would not. I 579 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:16,240 mean these this is going back into the 2019 2020. So I mean it's that that 580 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:22,319 diagnosis there. I think it's legitimate. This is an old old man. 581 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,280 » It's not getting any better. >> No, I mean that's been a concern for a 582 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,480 very long time. >> Yeah, I know. It's not all of a sudden 583 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:34,079 somebody else can look and say, "Gee, that 4 inch man is 584 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:40,720 great." I mean, you know, it's you got the school there. This is this is this 585 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,559 is bad in nobody's going to say, "Yeah, you missed 586 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:49,200 the vote on this." So yeah, we know we have a big uh again 587 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,079 a big elephant with all the 4 inch man in town where we're going to have to 588 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,200 start >> somewhere and and this is a high 589 00:49:53,839 --> 00:50:00,960 priority area that >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean one 590 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:07,839 » one bite you got to do it one time. This is I think I don't think the town is 591 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:13,680 probably in 15 years maybe more taken out how much 4 in line 592 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:17,839 » that I don't I don't think there hasn't been 593 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:22,319 a water project since >> you're on 594 00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:29,520 » I mean I can tell you this 4in line is not good you know that from your past 595 00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:37,240 reports we know what we have Yeah, it's that needs to be replaced. 596 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,240 » You know, the pressure. 597 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:47,440 » I would make a motion to approve the engineering services agreement with the 598 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:51,319 2026 water distribution system improvement project. 599 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:57,800 » Motion stolen. Second. Not. Any further discussion? 600 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,800 Jeremy. 601 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:09,480 » We lost him. He has said he had a bad connection. 602 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,480 » Okay. 603 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,119 » All right. Uh, all those in favor say I. >> I. 604 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,960 » I. >> Okay. 605 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:26,200 » I just say thanks again for that. I think that's uh we're not there yet, but 606 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,200 you take bold steps. Uh, 607 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:34,000 full up there. So, but again, you got to act to do something. Like I said, 608 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,040 nobody's going to come in and replace that line for us. 609 00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:41,440 » We're going to have to do it again. And it means getting busy and getting it 610 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:45,200 done and making it happen. Sometimes, uh, 611 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:50,000 » it ain't easy. >> We're taking a step in the direction, 612 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,119 right? >> Financing question. 613 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:57,680 » Yeah. And I'm not concerned about it. Yeah. I'm really not. I mean this where 614 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:03,280 we're not so like clear like we put in all new street water sewer sidewalks 615 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:08,160 laterals. This is just the water thing. >> Well that's yeah it's not like this is a 616 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:13,760 strip mall like right this is essential infrastructure. It's it's it's not uh 617 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,680 you know it's uncontested that it has to be replaced. Correct. 618 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,480 » Right. >> And so we at least need to understand 619 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:25,200 what replacing it cost. Right. No, absolutely. But I don't want it to be 620 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:30,400 one of those where, you know, we buy the plans and then never get away. We got to 621 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:35,119 execute on it. So, I think it's a great project. Uh the distribution system is, 622 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:41,280 you know, water's lifeblood of the community after air, you got to have 623 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:45,359 water and this is, you know, 75 year old infrastructure. Long long past. 624 00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:50,559 » Yep. >> Absolutely. 625 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:57,520 Okay. All right. Back to uh new business item A. I believe uh we have our guest 626 00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:01,920 here for a uh review of the Benton County multi-jurisdictional local hazard 627 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:05,839 mitigation plan. >> I'll give a quick introduction. Robin, 628 00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:09,520 if you want to just review the plan, but council, you got a copy in your packet. 629 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:14,400 Uh resolution approving the multi-jurisdictional local hazard 630 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:19,920 mitigation plan. Uh also provided the one that was approved back in 2021. 631 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:23,760 So updated every five years. Probably the most uh that and I know you've all 632 00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:27,119 got copy of that. The most thing important thing I guess I could tell you 633 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:32,480 about it is it's a it's a prerequisite for any sort of funding for FEMA or you 634 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:36,480 know Department of Homeland Security any of those kinds of improvements pre- 635 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:40,559 disaster post disaster. If you don't have this plan you're not going to be 636 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:45,839 eligible for any of those uh grant dollars. Now, there are obviously more 637 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:49,520 reasons to do the plan than than just be concerned about grand dollars, but for a 638 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:55,040 finance person, that's what's kind of on on my mind. But again, it looks at So, 639 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:58,319 this was in collaboration with all of the other cities in Benton County. I 640 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:02,880 think Robin, you did the update for every city in in Benton County. So, 641 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:07,520 obviously, we all share the same kinds of weather patterns and all these kinds 642 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:12,319 of things. So the the theory is that we don't really all need necessarily our 643 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:18,400 own individual standalone plan but we could all operate under the emergency 644 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:24,240 management agency's opices contract and have one countywide plan that has uh 645 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:27,599 compartmentalized every community with all the information that we have 646 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:32,079 particularized to each of our communities there. So, I I do want to 647 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:36,960 recognize Bob for your extensive work and helping review all of this and get, 648 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:41,440 you know, some updates added to that as well. And uh we shared those with Robin 649 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,400 over the last I don't it's been probably eight, nine months or right somewhere 650 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,240 there. So, yeah. >> Yeah. 651 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:52,000 » So, I know you want to add any more or >> you basically covered it. It is a 652 00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:55,359 fiveyear update. FEMA requires it be updated every five years. So, we take a 653 00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:02,640 look at what's happened over the past five years and see how that changes. um 654 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:09,359 priorities and um you know back in 2020 when this was being done, we were just 655 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:15,359 getting into um COVID and so there was a you know some actions included about 656 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:20,960 stocking up on medical supplies and and um some of that that type thing that now 657 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:26,319 having gone through that most communities have decided that they don't 658 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:31,520 really need to make that a community um specific action because we all work 659 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:35,520 closely with our county public health and with state public health and so um 660 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:40,319 that was one of the changes incorporating some of the information 661 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:46,240 from the do was one of the changes from the last um from the last plan so it's 662 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,839 just a chance to update um there's been some growth in your community in the 663 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:55,920 past five years so updating all those demographics as well so that if you um 664 00:55:52,799 --> 00:56:01,280 when you do go after some funding um for any of these projects or if your 665 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:05,839 community were affected by a a disaster that um warranted a presidential 666 00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:10,160 declaration, you'd have this plan in place and all of the actual political 667 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:14,480 jurisdictions in the county participated. So, not only the 668 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:19,119 communities, but your school districts and um and then there's a couple 669 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:23,440 utilities in Venton that are considered political jurisdictions. So, they 670 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:30,000 participated as well. So, one plan covers all of those jurisdictions. Um 671 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:34,000 and FEMA recognizes that. So right now the plan's being reviewed at the state 672 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:40,240 level. It'll go on after that to Kansas City to FEMA region 7 for approval. And 673 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:47,119 part of the process to have it completely approved is to have each of 674 00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:50,319 those um jurisdictions adopt the plan um by resolution. So that's what we're 675 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,440 asking. >> How many of the other cities I know 676 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,240 Shellsburg had it on their agenda for tonight too? Everybody also got their 677 00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:02,640 own. >> Um I've just been receiving 678 00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:06,319 a few this week. So it's it's just depends on when council meetings were 679 00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:12,240 were scheduled. Yeah. >> And I just add we did post a link on our 680 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:17,280 website and social media just to comment. 681 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:22,240 » Did you receive any? >> Pretty quiet. Pretty quiet. 682 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:26,240 » Yeah. >> Takes a while to read. 683 00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:30,400 Yeah, it is pretty big. >> Mayor said all about 427 684 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,200 » sheriff's department or fire department or anything. 685 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:37,160 » They did. No objection. 686 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,160 » No. 687 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:48,960 » Motion to approve the 2026 Benton County multi-jurisdictional 688 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:52,880 local hazard mitigation plan. >> Second. 689 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:56,559 » So, Do we need to talk about that language 690 00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:00,000 there? We're approving the resolution. Correct. 691 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,799 » Right. That's I believe that that would probably be what 692 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,440 » Okay. Motion to approve resolution number 2026-09-01. 693 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,119 » Sorry. >> Okay. And a motion and a second. 694 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:23,839 Any further discussion, council? Okay. We will have a uh roll call vote 695 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,200 for the city by the city clerk. >> Deonner 696 00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:26,400 » I. >> Derski. 697 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,599 » Hi. >> Nut. 698 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,319 » Hi. >> Stolen. 699 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:31,319 » I 700 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,720 resolution passes. 701 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:42,880 With that, let's see if I can find my way back here. We get to city 702 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,280 administrators report. >> Yeah, thanks. Just a couple things real 703 00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:52,400 quick. uh going to give an update on the T traffic engineering assistance program 704 00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:58,400 funding request for safe route to school study. Uh very happy to report that the 705 00:58:55,359 --> 00:59:03,040 DOT did uh approve that funding request. So that does fund a certain number of 706 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:07,520 consultant hours. I forget the total number of hours that they so maybe 100 707 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:12,079 and some hours that they'll contribute a consultant time uh into developing uh 708 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:16,799 what for us I hope will be a safe route to school application for next year uh 709 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:21,680 you know involving crosswalks and sidewalks and all of those kinds of uh 710 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:26,079 things. So definitely appreciate the quick turnaround. I guess we just got 711 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:29,119 lucky and hit the right time. So just goes back to I think a conversation we 712 00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:33,520 had at one of those coffees and I think Jay you and Trevor kind of brought that 713 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:36,960 up and so I reached out and we had strong interest uh school had heard 714 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:41,760 about so I heard from some folks from the school uh area residents and then 715 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:45,680 Cardinal area got some feedback from them that want to be involved in it. So 716 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,520 uh really looking forward to that. So at some point we'll have probably an 717 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:54,319 agreement between the city and the DOT for that that study that'll be 718 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:57,440 presented. So no cost to the city. Uh yeah, even better. 719 00:59:56,319 --> 01:00:01,440 » That was a quick turnaround. >> It was really quick. We're lucky on 720 00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:05,440 that. Uh and then I just want to mention that uh Liant was here. Uh David, I 721 01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:10,000 don't know if you want to add on that, but Lion was here putting the electric 722 01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:13,760 into the new uh entry gateway sign there. So, looks like they got all of 723 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:19,280 that done. I was the uh contractor for Alliant putting lines underground and 724 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:22,240 they're waiting for Alliant to come in and set the meter 725 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,920 » and then Wayne will come in and >> Yep. 726 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,480 » finished all off. >> Y but they did get the lines all in 727 01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:30,640 » the to the meter pest. >> Yep. Okay. 728 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:35,599 » Yep. To the meter pest. >> Okay. So, we're and hopefully 729 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:38,240 » getting closer. Excellent. >> Excellent. 730 01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:42,960 » That's all I got. >> That's all you got? Okay. retired 731 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:47,680 » mayor's report. Just a couple of things. Um attended a a mayor's meeting over in 732 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:53,280 Fairfax on Friday. That was a time well spent. Uh few eastern Iowa mayors there 733 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:58,480 and we uh we had a discussion with an attorney about data centers and the 734 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:04,400 things we're learning about data centers and kind of by default power plants um 735 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:10,240 that kind of go along with that. So um one discussion I just a discussion point 736 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:16,079 maybe for future um that I took away from that was the the the really strong 737 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:25,440 suggestion is that cities particularly small cities um get uh moratoriums 738 01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:30,640 uh if if they so choose in place until ordinances can be created regarding 739 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:34,079 those things. So something for us I think to think about. Um 740 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:38,559 » and again >> I'd agree with that. 741 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,319 » I mean you look we don't have a big chunk of ground where things can happen 742 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:47,119 right in our incorporated area but that is not how it happens all the time. Um 743 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:52,240 so uh we try to annex things into small cities and without any kind of plan in 744 01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:57,920 place. Um and so a moratorum is not saying we'd never allow that or consider 745 01:01:54,240 --> 01:02:03,520 that. It's putting that in place so that ordinances can be uh researched 746 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:07,839 » and developed and and in place so you can control what happens in your 747 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:13,920 incorporated area. So I think that again I kind of maybe crudely uh early on uh 748 01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:17,599 this year said we need to look at doing something like that and and now we have 749 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:22,400 a more succinct legal way of doing that. So I think we need to consider doing 750 01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:26,240 that. Um, second, I just want to, you know, props 751 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,680 to the Legion and and getting people involved in the Avenue of Flags. There's 752 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,599 a lot more flags out there. I love that and it it looks great in the community 753 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:38,799 and and, uh, they're keeping them up through September 11th, which is 754 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:42,160 fantastic. So, um, props to the Legion. If folks don't have that, it's a great 755 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:47,920 fundraiser for the Legion. I'd encourage you to get involved in that. So um then 756 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:51,920 the last thing again maybe just kind of throwing throwing things out there a 757 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:56,160 little fishing maybe future discussions but 758 01:02:53,599 --> 01:03:01,839 um I've given I thought and talked to a lot of you about um maybe having a 759 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,920 public forum discussion time in our meetings. Maybe not every meeting, maybe 760 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:13,119 periodically we would do such a thing where maybe we'd review inquiries that 761 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:18,400 come in by email um information requests and talk about those things publicly. Um 762 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:22,480 number one to build confidence with our people that that do send inquiries that 763 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,680 they know that we're looking at them and we're addressing them and taking them 764 01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:31,039 seriously. But I also think there's an opportunity 765 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:34,880 for us uh because I think none of us want to go out in social media and argue 766 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:40,799 with people. And I think that's very wise not to do that. But maybe we could 767 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:44,880 discuss some of the things that go on internet land in a public setting so 768 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:49,039 that we can have a public discussion about those kind of things and 769 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:53,359 particularly things that just aren't correct. 770 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:58,079 » Just food for thought. I don't know. Uh could 771 01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:03,520 be inviting more, you know, issues. I don't know. But I think it's something 772 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:07,520 worth talking about. Um because we don't want to ga engage in 773 01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:11,039 a non-public setting, maybe we can bring it to a public setting. And and again, I 774 01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:14,640 want I want >> I want our citizens to feel like if 775 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:18,720 they've got if they've if they've take the time to send an email and they've 776 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,440 got a concern that they're requesting assistance from us on that they know 777 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:25,119 that they're being addressed and we're discussing them as well. 778 01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:29,319 Just food for thought. 779 01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:35,599 » That's why your coffee thing was a huge step 780 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,920 » and we will continue that and maybe that's 781 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,920 » correct. Right. >> Next month. 782 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:44,400 » October 17th. Yes. >> It's the next one. Y and maybe that's 783 01:04:42,319 --> 01:04:49,119 where we incorporate that. I just I think we could think about those kind of 784 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:53,960 things and uh >> maybe improve the communication a little 785 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,960 bit. 786 01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:03,520 Next up, we have the consent agenda. >> Just info. Um, the bank wreck reports 787 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:07,079 were not available tonight, but the rest was in the packet. 788 01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:21,359 So, the consent agenda includes uh the August 25th city council meeting 789 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:25,680 minutes, approval of bills and claims submitted by the clerk. Uh not all the 790 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:29,599 financial reports. >> All the financial reports, treasures 791 01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:33,359 report, revenue and expense except for the bank record. 792 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:38,079 » Except for the bank reconciliation, >> right? 793 01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:43,760 » Uh the August 26 2026 utility trial balance and R reports approval of 794 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:49,280 renewal of a class B retail native wine license for Central City Family 795 01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:54,720 Pharmacy. Uh also known as Atkins Family Pharmacy. Uh and approval of ownership 796 01:05:52,160 --> 01:06:00,400 change for Casey's General Store 401 Stone Brook Drive for their class E 797 01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:04,240 retail license, alcohol license, tobacco license. 798 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:11,319 » So Casey's What's Casey's doing here? just ownership changes to their 799 01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:11,319 » corporate. Yeah. 800 01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:16,079 » Several times, >> especially with a new building. 801 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:20,359 » Okay. >> Cuz it's like, didn't they build it? 802 01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:27,119 » And they're doing that in other communities. 803 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:30,799 » Every community does pretty much. Yeah. Every every place where there's a 804 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,920 tobacco or alcohol license or there's a Casey store, every city gets the same 805 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:38,079 ownership change. >> Okay. 806 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:44,680 » But they keep the >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. 807 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,680 » Okay. 808 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,440 » Do we have a motion? 809 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:56,280 » I'll make a motion to approve the cassette agenda. 810 01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:56,280 » Motion to Milner. 811 01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:07,359 Second not any further discussion. 812 01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:12,200 All those in favor say I. I. >> I. 813 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,200 » Unanimous. 814 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:20,799 All right. We move on to other business. Uh we'll start with David back there. 815 01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:23,280 You got anything? Anything else? Nope. Okay. 816 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:27,200 » Just give me some uh questions for the two 817 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:32,880 camera stuff in the next couple days and I'll I'll get all that for you. 818 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,240 » Okay, sounds good. >> Shelly, 819 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,079 » no. >> Nope. 820 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:42,240 » Bob, >> I got a couple. Um, 821 01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:46,880 I sent an email back to Scott and to you, Mayor, and to Dan, Chief Dan 822 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:53,920 Ramlesburg, about the emergency management uh uh course conference is 823 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:58,480 going to be over in Walke in October. I may that I don't know. We'll talk some 824 01:07:55,839 --> 01:08:02,000 more about it, but it does tabletop uh disaster drills. 825 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:08,400 » What do you know what the dates are? >> I believe it's October 16th 826 01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:12,720 and it's a tabletop presented by the emergency management crew out of the 827 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:16,480 state and uh with some city inputs on what they went through some of the I'm 828 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:21,359 assuming like Greenfield or whoever out there who went through some of the 829 01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:26,560 tornado business. Um, Chief Ramlesburg did send out call stats to Scott and I 830 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:30,239 just before the meeting. And just to let you know, they they're ahead of schedule 831 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:33,199 again for about the fifth year in a row for calls. And if you haven't noticed in 832 01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:37,679 the morning, I know a lot of people go to work. I'm retired. I don't do much 833 01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:42,159 that there is a ton of calls in the early morning. So, those guys that are 834 01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:46,480 responding uh in the morning, there's not many of them, but they've been on 835 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:51,920 numerous calls over the last couple weeks between probably 6 a.m. and 9 a.m. 836 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:57,279 whether they're going out to Highway 30 for whatever or I see area ambulance 837 01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:01,199 tearing into town on 33rd Avenue. So those guys are doing stellar work and it 838 01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:05,679 looks like they're going to quite possibly go after another record which 839 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:11,120 is nothing to be happy about. But as this thing pushes forward uh with the 840 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:16,239 power plant if it comes to attrition, it's going to pick up quite a bit for 841 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:20,880 him. So, uh, I think we need to probably sit down with Dan and sometime make sure 842 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:25,759 that anything we can do to help them recruit EMS and fire here over the next 843 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:29,279 three to five years is going to be pretty critical because there's a bunch 844 01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:33,199 of older people over there about ready to turn south, too. And, uh, I think 845 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:40,000 it's important we got to have that conversation with them. Um, the only 846 01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:44,000 other thing I want to talk about is that when I was in here going through, it's a 847 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:48,480 lot easier to come in here and read council minutes and agendas than looking 848 01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:53,040 online through past council meeting and agendas. I was in there looking for like 849 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:58,320 water stuff and conversations and packets and trying to figure out what 850 01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:02,640 was agreed to prior, what was said so we can kind of logically think out our 851 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:09,920 water issues in this town. and I came across a couple troubling areas uh not 852 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:14,960 pertaining to the water but I don't want to go into too much 853 01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:23,199 detail that with the expenditures uh that I came upon came upon I found 854 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:28,960 that and I presented it to Scott and um you know I I would like to request that 855 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:36,960 we have a close session to discuss uh specifically the period of 2021 21 to 856 01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:42,159 23, maybe 24, but 21 to 23 just to discuss those items between the the five 857 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:48,159 of us and the mayor and Shelley and Scott and possibly the lawyer. Uh to 858 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:54,159 discuss those to figure out what the best way to present that to the public 859 01:10:50,320 --> 01:11:00,159 to be fully transparent. Um, I I think it it'll let us verify the 860 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:06,400 public how the public money was intended to be spent and it gives the residents 861 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:10,560 confidence that we're we're being one transparent and accountable to every tax 862 01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:15,280 dollar whether the five or six or seven of us at this table that weren't here 863 01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:19,520 during those time frames. U we can discuss that and how to present that. 864 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:22,480 That doesn't mean jump right off the deep end and say we're going to request 865 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,880 a special I don't, you know, that's an option, but 866 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:32,400 I don't know if we need to do anything like that. But I think the best thing to 867 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:37,920 do is to sit down, talk about it as a group, and then how we want to roll that 868 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:42,719 out in the future. I don't I don't think there's any um 869 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:48,080 uh criminal activity. I'm not a lawyer anyway, but I I'm pretty sure there's 870 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:55,120 not, but there's uh probably a financial irregularity at at the worst. uh that 871 01:11:52,400 --> 01:12:02,000 needs to be presented and how we want to handle that. 872 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:08,000 So I would vote ask for uh a close session be scheduled by the city 873 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,960 administrator and the mayor at the near future where we can discuss these 874 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:15,000 issues. >> I'll get Doug and see what 875 01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:28,199 » anything else? No, sir. >> I'm good. 876 01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:28,199 » J, 877 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:38,159 » how many? >> Oh, you more recent. 878 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:41,199 » I saw that. >> Oh, it's looking even better. I can't 879 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:46,159 remember. We got another batch in here the other day and Oh, it's looking 880 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:50,000 fantastic. You know, I'm excited. Not have a ton of people watch our meetings, 881 01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:56,400 but when we have that now, we'll be able to Simoc cast three different places 882 01:12:52,719 --> 01:13:00,320 basically uh cast on YouTube, Facebook and city website. So you're welcome 883 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:06,159 organization of the minutes. >> Oh just just from that just the snapshot 884 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:11,440 I see >> the quality of work that how data will 885 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:16,719 be managed and maintained on there >> and the interactivity I mean between 886 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:20,159 doing business on online and things so so much easier with permits and those 887 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:25,679 kinds of things. So, it's going to be a mess. And Bob has asked for it many many 888 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:29,679 times with the new um cell the texting uh notifications and that I wish I wish 889 01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:34,320 for another 100 meter break. But, you know, if we had had the one the the new 890 01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:38,640 website with the Dixel off and running and everything, we we've been able to 891 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:42,080 kind of fence off a particular area and then if we had those cell phones for 892 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:46,320 that area, we could have notified everybody by text message. You know, we 893 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:51,840 could do that by email and things, but people don't really look quite as 894 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:55,760 quickly at their email most of the time versus a text message. And in 895 01:13:53,679 --> 01:14:01,040 particular, the texting is very popular among older people, not as much as the 896 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:06,080 email, but the texting. They really like getting the text messages. So, thank you 897 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:09,560 for mentioning that. We're hopeful to get it done soon. 898 01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:14,239 » It's going to be >> work that's going on. 899 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:18,400 you haven't, you know. >> Yeah, it's one of those in the scale of 900 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,760 all the other things that we're doing. It probably doesn't deserve a whole lot 901 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:25,920 of attention, but it's probably one of those things going from trash to 902 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:33,000 treasure because the site we have, I think every 903 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,000 » Oh, yeah. 904 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,920 » Awesome stuff. I have one more item for Scott. It's the status on the code of 905 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,679 ordinances >> about the same time as website. So, 906 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:51,679 we're hopeful to have that and Mayor and I actually talked about maybe another 907 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:57,360 change you might like to see to to one particular area there. And so, you will 908 01:14:54,080 --> 01:15:00,880 get that back hopefully here uh within a couple of weeks is kind of what she 909 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:06,239 suggested. Uh and then kind of run through some of the areas that maybe you 910 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:08,400 want to get a little more look at discussion. 911 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:13,679 » Y and then get a schedule for adoption 912 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:16,920 then so I can some some more ideas come into play 913 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:25,360 » item 11 motion to adjourn motion stolen second not 914 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:29,600 » all in favor say I >> I 915 01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:33,000 » thank you everyone >> thank you mayor 916 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,640 Wait a minute.